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Greg Norman on 9th at Royal, er, Trump Turnberry on his way to 1986 British Open title

… in Scotland, at least, is rebuilding Royal Turnberry (or as he modestly has renamed it, Trump Turnberry), which has been part of the British Open rota since Tom Watson beat Jack Nicklaus in the “Duel in the Sun” in 1977, to actually live up to its nickname of “the Pebble Beach of Scotland.” Reconstruction will start shortly after this week’s Women’s British Open at Trump Turnberry. (Although the men’s tour in the U.S. has been cutting ties with Trump over his unspeakable insults of illegal aliens and John McCain, it would be sexist to call off the Women’s British Open.)

While the men’s Open is always played on linksland near the sea, most of the classic courses don’t even offer even an ocean view, much less bring the coastline into play. Turnberry, with its rocky coastline, has been the exception.

Screenshot 2015-07-27 05.07.33

CGI of 2016’s par 5 10th hole at Trump Turnberry

Still, even Turnberry’s ocean holes were uninspired compared to the greats of the Monterey Peninsula in northern central California. So, Trump’s Scottish golf architects, Mackenzie and Ebert, have come up with a plan to exploit the spectacular site much more fully, turning 9 through 11 into ocean cliff holes almost as impressive as 15-17 at Cypress Point.

While Trump’s early ventures into golf course architecture tended to involve building giant artificial waterfalls, he’s been getting better at using his sites. Analogously, when Trump built a 90 story hotel on the north bank of the Chicago River, he put the main restaurant not at the top, but on the 16th floor. Why? Because the view from supertall buildings is more aerial than elegant. In contrast, the sensational 1920s Art Deco skyscrapers lining the Chicago River top out at 15 to 30 stories, so dining at eye level with their finials is a glorious experience.

On the other hand, there are reasons why Scottish courses aren’t as exposed to the ocean as the best California courses, such as wind and salt spray. So, we’ll see if Trump is over-optimistic.

Amusingly, since the famous lighthouse between the 9th and 10th holes at Turnberry is now fully automated, Trump’s team came up with the idea of tearing down the current hut for snacks near the 10th tee and making the lighthouse itself into what it will surely be the world’s most famous halfway house for having a wee dram before braving the rigors of the back nine.

And besides sprucing up the famous old red and white hotel on the hill above the golf course, Trump will be renting out the second floor of the lighthouse as a suite for golf-crazed zillionaires, such as, to pick a name at random from the ranks of links lovers, Mr. Hillary Clinton himself.

Bill Clinton is infatuated with seaside golf in the British Isles. There are, at last count, two Bill Clinton statues in the world. One is in Pristina, Kosovo, and the other is in downtown Ballybunion, Ireland. Clinton has good taste in golf courses. I’ve been a Ballybunion lifetime member since 1987, although, unlike Bill, I haven’t been back since 1994.

That the buddies Trump and Clinton are very much on the same page over golf may have something to do with why Bill Clinton has still not resigned his membership at his home club, Trump National – Westchester.

 
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  1. Donald Trump’s Clintonian ties (and they run deep) are a function of a lot, but golf isn’t one of them. This luxurious game is an ancillary byproduct elites use to coat their positioning and masterminding with the luster of fun and recreation. It’s the great equalizing playing field where DINOs and RINOs bargain their souls away.

  2. Of course, you have neglected to mention the most beautiful country in the world.

    http://www.capekidnappers.com

    • Replies: @Harold
    @22pp22

    Growing up in New Zealand I often used to hear mentions of the beauty of New Zealand, and I’d think, “Is it really that great?”. Then I went overseas, and when I got back all I could think was “Holy God! New Zealand is beautiful!”. Now where do we get our cheques from the tourism board?

    Replies: @International Jew

    , @Tacitus2016
    @22pp22

    Spoken like a true Kiwi? A Canadian once made me laugh when he told me that his greatest criticism of the Kiwi was that they knew too much about their country. This after a Kiwi had taken promotional videos of NZ to play on their bus tour.

    Love NZ myself. South Island gives you bang for buck with spectacular scenery. Such a great place for English speakers. So comfortable, so pleasant (apart from the occasional earthquake).

    Regarding Greg Norman. Apparently still worth $300 million after two divorces. Savvy guy. Back to Clinton the golfer.
    "On 15 March 1997, then U.S. president Bill Clinton fell down a flight of stairs at Norman's Florida home, tearing knee tendons which required surgery."

  3. OT – The Eye of Sauron has now turned to Prairie View, Texas :

    “Texas County’s Racial Past Is Seen as Prelude to Sandra Bland’s Death”

    http://www.nytimes.com/2015/07/27/us/racial-divide-persists-in-texas-county-where-sandra-bland-died.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&module=second-column-region&region=top-news&WT.nav=top-news&_r=0

    Prairie View was so racist in the past that their government funded a college for black people there 140 years ago, but never mind. In other countries with oppressed minorities, the government funds colleges for them also – there is the University of Gypsies in Romania, Rohingya U. in Burma, etc.

    Apparently, white people harm black bodies even when said black bodies string themselves up – a virtual lynching for a virtual age.

    If you listen to the tape, the traffic stop goes reasonably well until the trooper asks Bland to put out her cigarette and she refuses. You would think by now that all black parents have had The Talk with their kids and that part of the Talk is that if a cop makes a reasonable request that you do not invite trouble on your head by disobeying him. Failing to do so displays a lack of common sense. Maybe Sandra Bland wasn’t the sharpest tack in the box, but I think this goes beyond that – there is some sort of willful desire to push the limits to see how much you can get away with due to your “racial immunity” and sometimes the racial immunity fails and you reap the whirlwind. All she needed to do was put out the cigarette and 5 minutes later she would have been on her way but she couldn’t bring herself to do that much.

    • Replies: @candid_observer
    @Jack D

    She very likely would have escaped any further repurcussions -- or certainly would have escaped much of her ordeal -- if she had merely complied with his subsequent demand that she step out of the car.

    But no, she couldn't do that. She had all these "rights" she made up in her head on the spot.

    Frankly, I would have complied if for no other reason that I don't even know what my true rights are in situations like that. It may seem as if a police officer shouldn't be able lawfully to demand that I put out a cigarette, but how do I know? Even after all the "expert" commentary on this issue, it still isn't obvious to me whether they do. And I certainly would never expect that I had a right to refuse to get out of the car when so requested, and especially not when I was told by the officer that he was making a "lawful command".

    Is it really at all plausible that Sandra Bland really understood what her rights were, but I would not have any real idea?

    No: she had just decided she was going to be defiant and disrespectful and that was that.

    I'm supposed to sympathize with this?

    , @Grace Jones
    @Jack D

    She had a right to smoke in her own car, but supposedly not to refuse to get out of the car, although the trooper's pretext of personal safety was pretty flimsy considering that the stop was as good as over by then.

    Replies: @Jack D

    , @Kevin O'Keeffe
    @Jack D

    "Maybe Sandra Bland wasn’t the sharpest tack in the box, but I think this goes beyond that – there is some sort of willful desire to push the limits to see how much you can get away with due to your 'racial immunity' and sometimes the racial immunity fails and you reap the whirlwind."

    I think this observation is apt to be entirely correct.

  4. Clinton doesn’t play golf, Clinton cheats at golf – a plain different thing. God he’s loathsome.

  5. Pretty nice video flyover of the proposed changes.

  6. Anon • Disclaimer says:

    http://wpo.st/i77S0

    “Puerto Rican voters tend to lean Democratic, but a great number of the newcomers do not identify with any party, making them appealing targets for politicians and recruiters on both sides. Like those living in other U.S. territories, people in Puerto Rico cannot vote for president in the U.S. general election.”

    ‘Tend’? Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight!!!! LOL.

    http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jul/26/scandinavia-far-right-stolen-left-ground-welfare

    The right and socialism were united in the early 20th century.

    • Replies: @fnn
    @Anon

    Well, Otto von Bismarck was the founder of the modern welfare state.

    , @Charles Erwin Wilson
    @Anon

    You are the victim of an absurd political spectrum designed to enervate your resistance to the Marxist Borg.

    An accurate political spectrum would have totalitarianism on the left and anarchy on the right.

    Communism is socialism and totalitarian as are all the children of Marx (cf. the 3rd S in USSR). The Nationalsozialismus (National Socialists - Nazis), were also totalitarian. Nazis differed from Communists in name and whom they desired to abuse only.

    The beneficiaries of Anglo-Saxon liberty are centered over the fulcrum of a genuine distribution of political sentiment. Conflating ‘Right’ and ‘Socialism’ amplifies noise at the expense of signal.

  7. “Analogously, when Trump built a 90 story hotel on the north bank of the Chicago River, he put the main restaurant not at the top, but on the 16th floor. Why? Because the view from supertall buildings is more aerial than elegant. In contrast, the sensational 1920s Art Deco skyscrapers lining the Chicago River top out at 15 to 30 stories, so dining at eye level with their finials is a glorious experience.”

    Or, post 911, there might not be that many customers for a restaurant like Windows on the World. At least on the 16th floor, you might get out alive.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Mr. Anon


    Or, post 911, there might not be that many customers for a restaurant like Windows on the World. At least on the 16th floor, you might get out alive.

     

    Windows on the World proved to be a most prophetic name.
  8. The most deplorable one [AKA "Fourth doorman of the apocalypse"] says:

    It’s likely that Donald’s raising of the dreadful I words in another forum is raising more than a few eyebrows (not to mention blood pressures) on golf courses around the world.

  9. @22pp22
    Of course, you have neglected to mention the most beautiful country in the world.

    http://www.capekidnappers.com

    Replies: @Harold, @Tacitus2016

    Growing up in New Zealand I often used to hear mentions of the beauty of New Zealand, and I’d think, “Is it really that great?”. Then I went overseas, and when I got back all I could think was “Holy God! New Zealand is beautiful!”. Now where do we get our cheques from the tourism board?

    • Replies: @International Jew
    @Harold

    After you tow your island(s) up where I don't need to fly 10 hours to reach you.

    Replies: @BurplesonAFB

  10. Off-topic and speaking of Donald Trump, Daves Hodges (The Common Sense Show) and James White (The Liberty Brothers Radio Show) think he might be in danger for disturbing the establishment too much.

  11. Steve please refrain from telling us about the Ballybunion membership. Stick to 1993 Honda Accord and linoleum-floored kitchen anecdotes.

  12. Sometimes things don’t go so well for tiger cubs:

    Bich Ha and Huei Hann Pan were classic examples of the Canadian immigrant success story. Hann was raised and educated in Vietnam and moved to Canada as a political refugee in 1979. Bich (pronounced “Bick”) came separately, also a refugee. They married in Toronto and lived in Scarborough. They had two kids, Jennifer, in 1986, and Felix, three years later, and found jobs at the Aurora-based auto parts manufacturer Magna International, Hann as a tool and die maker and Bich making car parts. They lived frugally. By 2004, Bich and Hann had saved enough to buy a large home with a two-car garage on a quiet residential street in Markham. He drove a Mercedes-Benz and she a Lexus ES 300, and they accumulated $200,000 in the bank.

    Their expectation was that Jennifer and Felix would work as hard as they had in establishing their lives in Canada. They’d laid the groundwork, and their kids would need to improve upon it. They enrolled Jennifer in piano classes at age four, and she showed early promise. By elementary school, she’d racked up a trophy case full of awards. They put her in figure skating, and she hoped to compete at the national level, with her sights set on the 2010 Winter Olympics in Vancouver until she tore a ligament in her knee. Some nights during elementary school, Jennifer would come home from skating practice at 10 p.m., do homework until midnight, then head to bed. The pressure was intense. She began cutting herself—little horizontal cuts on her forearms.

    Jennifer’s parents assumed their daughter was an A student; in truth, she earned mostly Bs—respectable for most kids but unacceptable in her strict household. So Jennifer continued to doctor her report cards throughout high school. She received early acceptance to Ryerson, but then failed calculus in her final year and wasn’t able to graduate. The university withdrew its offer. Desperate to keep her parents from digging into her high school records, she lied and said she’d be starting at Ryerson in the fall. She said her plan was to do two years of science, then transfer over to U of T’s pharmacology program, which was her father’s hope. Hann was delighted and bought her a laptop. Jennifer collected used biology and physics textbooks and bought school supplies. In September, she pretended to attend frosh week. When it came to tuition, she doctored papers stating she was receiving an OSAP loan and convinced her dad she’d won a $3,000 scholarship.

    She would pack up her book bag and take public transit downtown. Her parents assumed she was headed to class. Instead, Jennifer would go to public libraries, where she would research on the Web what she figured were relevant scientific topics and fill her books with copious notes. She’d spend her free time at cafés or visiting Daniel at York University, where he was taking classes. She picked up a few day shifts as a server at East Side Mario’s in Markham, taught piano lessons and later tended bar at a Boston Pizza where Daniel worked as a kitchen manager. At home, Hann often asked Jennifer about her studies, but Bich told him not to interfere. “Let her be herself,” she’d say.

    Jennifer resisted, but Daniel had grown weary of their secret romance. She was 24 and still sneaking around, terrified of her parents’ tirades but not willing to leave home. He told her to figure out her life, and he broke off their relationship. Jennifer was heartbroken. Shortly thereafter, she learned that Daniel was seeing a girl named Christine. In an attempt to win back his attention and discredit Christine, she concocted a bizarre tale. She told him a man had knocked on her door and flashed what looked like a police badge. When she opened the door, a group of men rushed in, overpowered her and gang-raped her in the foyer of her house. Then a few days later, she said, she received a bullet in an envelope in her mailbox. Both instances, she alleged, were warnings from Christine to leave Daniel alone.

    http://www.torontolife.com/informer/features/2015/07/22/jennifer-pan-revenge/

    • Replies: @Bad memories
    @syonredux

    You can tell from the names that one parent is Chinese and the other Vietnamese.

    Big difference if you know what I mean.

    , @nglaer
    @syonredux

    wow, this is much more vivid than today's Times story on the same case!

  13. @22pp22
    Of course, you have neglected to mention the most beautiful country in the world.

    http://www.capekidnappers.com

    Replies: @Harold, @Tacitus2016

    Spoken like a true Kiwi? A Canadian once made me laugh when he told me that his greatest criticism of the Kiwi was that they knew too much about their country. This after a Kiwi had taken promotional videos of NZ to play on their bus tour.

    Love NZ myself. South Island gives you bang for buck with spectacular scenery. Such a great place for English speakers. So comfortable, so pleasant (apart from the occasional earthquake).

    Regarding Greg Norman. Apparently still worth $300 million after two divorces. Savvy guy. Back to Clinton the golfer.
    “On 15 March 1997, then U.S. president Bill Clinton fell down a flight of stairs at Norman’s Florida home, tearing knee tendons which required surgery.”

  14. There are, at last count, two Bill Clinton statues in the world. One is in Pristina, Kosovo

    Yep, the Albanians sure appreciate Bills’ help in ethnically cleansing Kosovo of most of the Serbs.

  15. @syonredux
    Sometimes things don't go so well for tiger cubs:

    Bich Ha and Huei Hann Pan were classic examples of the Canadian immigrant success story. Hann was raised and educated in Vietnam and moved to Canada as a political refugee in 1979. Bich (pronounced “Bick”) came separately, also a refugee. They married in Toronto and lived in Scarborough. They had two kids, Jennifer, in 1986, and Felix, three years later, and found jobs at the Aurora-based auto parts manufacturer Magna International, Hann as a tool and die maker and Bich making car parts. They lived frugally. By 2004, Bich and Hann had saved enough to buy a large home with a two-car garage on a quiet residential street in Markham. He drove a Mercedes-Benz and she a Lexus ES 300, and they accumulated $200,000 in the bank.

    Their expectation was that Jennifer and Felix would work as hard as they had in establishing their lives in Canada. They’d laid the groundwork, and their kids would need to improve upon it. They enrolled Jennifer in piano classes at age four, and she showed early promise. By elementary school, she’d racked up a trophy case full of awards. They put her in figure skating, and she hoped to compete at the national level, with her sights set on the 2010 Winter Olympics in Vancouver until she tore a ligament in her knee. Some nights during elementary school, Jennifer would come home from skating practice at 10 p.m., do homework until midnight, then head to bed. The pressure was intense. She began cutting herself—little horizontal cuts on her forearms.
     

    Jennifer’s parents assumed their daughter was an A student; in truth, she earned mostly Bs—respectable for most kids but unacceptable in her strict household. So Jennifer continued to doctor her report cards throughout high school. She received early acceptance to Ryerson, but then failed calculus in her final year and wasn’t able to graduate. The university withdrew its offer. Desperate to keep her parents from digging into her high school records, she lied and said she’d be starting at Ryerson in the fall. She said her plan was to do two years of science, then transfer over to U of T’s pharmacology program, which was her father’s hope. Hann was delighted and bought her a laptop. Jennifer collected used biology and physics textbooks and bought school supplies. In September, she pretended to attend frosh week. When it came to tuition, she doctored papers stating she was receiving an OSAP loan and convinced her dad she’d won a $3,000 scholarship.

    She would pack up her book bag and take public transit downtown. Her parents assumed she was headed to class. Instead, Jennifer would go to public libraries, where she would research on the Web what she figured were relevant scientific topics and fill her books with copious notes. She’d spend her free time at cafés or visiting Daniel at York University, where he was taking classes. She picked up a few day shifts as a server at East Side Mario’s in Markham, taught piano lessons and later tended bar at a Boston Pizza where Daniel worked as a kitchen manager. At home, Hann often asked Jennifer about her studies, but Bich told him not to interfere. “Let her be herself,” she’d say.

     


    Jennifer resisted, but Daniel had grown weary of their secret romance. She was 24 and still sneaking around, terrified of her parents’ tirades but not willing to leave home. He told her to figure out her life, and he broke off their relationship. Jennifer was heartbroken. Shortly thereafter, she learned that Daniel was seeing a girl named Christine. In an attempt to win back his attention and discredit Christine, she concocted a bizarre tale. She told him a man had knocked on her door and flashed what looked like a police badge. When she opened the door, a group of men rushed in, overpowered her and gang-raped her in the foyer of her house. Then a few days later, she said, she received a bullet in an envelope in her mailbox. Both instances, she alleged, were warnings from Christine to leave Daniel alone.
     
    http://www.torontolife.com/informer/features/2015/07/22/jennifer-pan-revenge/

    Replies: @Bad memories, @nglaer

    You can tell from the names that one parent is Chinese and the other Vietnamese.

    Big difference if you know what I mean.

  16. I can’t wait until he remodels the White House.

    Imagine a big, gold, TRUMP sign over the front door.

    (I bet Melania speaks better English than Columba, BTW.)

    We’ve had characters as presidents several times in our history. There is no reason we can’t have this character now.

    I keep watching the MSM doing everything it can to say he is not to be taken seriously (the same things they said about Ronald Reagan) while they treat lifetime, bought buffoons as expert leaders. Nonsense. Trump can win, and there is a Silent Majority that agrees with him on issues essential to American sovereignty and economic strength.

    • Replies: @Maj. Kong
    @Buzz Mohawk

    Trump is the only GOP candidate that can credibly win more than a narrow victory. The best the rest of the GOP can hope for is a 2004 repeat, plus PA and WI if they are lucky.

    Economic populism could get the Trump-GOP the whole Midwest, but at the cost of irking the donor class.

    Replies: @Kevin O'Keeffe

    , @tbraton
    @Buzz Mohawk

    "(I bet Melania speaks better English than Columba, BTW.)"

    You like betting on sure shots, I see. There are videos of Melania speaking English, and, despite the slight accent, she is very articulate in English. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_EdmMpN1Qoc Like many Europeans, I am pretty sure she learned English in school and probably had a pretty good command of English before coming to America 20 or so years ago. In the case of Columba, we have videos of her speaking Spanish. Since I don't speak Spanish, I cannot judge her mastery of Spanish.

    Replies: @tbraton

    , @Alfa158
    @Buzz Mohawk

    James Carville said about a year ago that the biggest danger to a Hillary presidency would be a Republican running a populist campaign. If Trump tailors his rhetoric to also focus on globalization, out-sourcing and off-shoring and the destruction of the middle class, he has a good chance to get Republicans back in the voting booth, and to bring back the Reagan Democrats back to the fold.
    If he can win enough caucuses and primaries, they won't be able to keep him out of the convention and Jeb will be left to decide if HE wants to be the one running as a third party candidate.

    Replies: @Maj. Kong

    , @International Jew
    @Buzz Mohawk


    I can’t wait until he remodels the White House.
     
    I was ambivalent about a Trump presidency -- until now.

    Are the WH grounds big enough for a nine-hole golf course?
  17. Interesting that Trump didn’t put the main restaurant on the top of his Chicago edifice. I agree that the view from 1000 feet up is more ‘alpine’ than urban but there are probably some other reasons too. First of all Chicago already has the Signature Room and Lounge atop the John Hancock Building so if what you are selling is as much view as dining unless the Signature was filled to capacity why compete. The Carnelian Room atop the old Bank of America building in San Francisco went bust in 2009 ( OK it was the depths of the recession) but it also shows that in as fine dining obsessed town as San Francisco cuisine beats view. There is also the fact that with top floor penthouses fetching $100 million dollars these days if you’ve got 10,000 square feet 1000 feet up putting a bar and restaurant up there ( with all the costs and traffic associated with servicing it) may not be the highest and best use of the space. I was told once that the wine cellar for the Carnelian room was just that, at ground level, because the sway of the building 850 feet up would stir up sediment in premium wines!

    Finally we all know what happened to Windows on the World on 9/11! While the odds maybe remote of that ever happening again I’m sure some people are uncomfortable with dining on the top floor of a trophy building simply because of the memory of those poor doomed souls hanging out the windows waving towels.

    BTW, did they ever reopen the Tip Top Tap Lounge on the 25th floor in the old Allerton Hotel in Chicago. I stayed there a couple of years ago and they were using it as a space for a gym. Seemed a real waste of space for what was once a premier location on Michigan Avenue.

  18. @Buzz Mohawk
    I can't wait until he remodels the White House.

    Imagine a big, gold, TRUMP sign over the front door.

    (I bet Melania speaks better English than Columba, BTW.)

    We've had characters as presidents several times in our history. There is no reason we can't have this character now.

    I keep watching the MSM doing everything it can to say he is not to be taken seriously (the same things they said about Ronald Reagan) while they treat lifetime, bought buffoons as expert leaders. Nonsense. Trump can win, and there is a Silent Majority that agrees with him on issues essential to American sovereignty and economic strength.

    Replies: @Maj. Kong, @tbraton, @Alfa158, @International Jew

    Trump is the only GOP candidate that can credibly win more than a narrow victory. The best the rest of the GOP can hope for is a 2004 repeat, plus PA and WI if they are lucky.

    Economic populism could get the Trump-GOP the whole Midwest, but at the cost of irking the donor class.

    • Replies: @Kevin O'Keeffe
    @Maj. Kong

    "Trump is the only GOP candidate that can credibly win more than a narrow victory. The best the rest of the GOP can hope for is a 2004 repeat, plus PA and WI if they are lucky."

    Yes, this is exactly correct. On the Democratic side, it is is also true, albeit with Jim Webb being the candidate who could (not necessarily would, but certainly could), redraw the map, if he were to be nominated. All the rest of the candidates (in both parties), are just trying to replay the last few elections, for some marginal partisan advantage.

  19. @Anon
    http://wpo.st/i77S0

    "Puerto Rican voters tend to lean Democratic, but a great number of the newcomers do not identify with any party, making them appealing targets for politicians and recruiters on both sides. Like those living in other U.S. territories, people in Puerto Rico cannot vote for president in the U.S. general election."

    'Tend'? Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight!!!! LOL.

    http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jul/26/scandinavia-far-right-stolen-left-ground-welfare

    The right and socialism were united in the early 20th century.

    Replies: @fnn, @Charles Erwin Wilson

    Well, Otto von Bismarck was the founder of the modern welfare state.

  20. Why let a little thing like an election come between two golf buddies?

  21. @syonredux
    Sometimes things don't go so well for tiger cubs:

    Bich Ha and Huei Hann Pan were classic examples of the Canadian immigrant success story. Hann was raised and educated in Vietnam and moved to Canada as a political refugee in 1979. Bich (pronounced “Bick”) came separately, also a refugee. They married in Toronto and lived in Scarborough. They had two kids, Jennifer, in 1986, and Felix, three years later, and found jobs at the Aurora-based auto parts manufacturer Magna International, Hann as a tool and die maker and Bich making car parts. They lived frugally. By 2004, Bich and Hann had saved enough to buy a large home with a two-car garage on a quiet residential street in Markham. He drove a Mercedes-Benz and she a Lexus ES 300, and they accumulated $200,000 in the bank.

    Their expectation was that Jennifer and Felix would work as hard as they had in establishing their lives in Canada. They’d laid the groundwork, and their kids would need to improve upon it. They enrolled Jennifer in piano classes at age four, and she showed early promise. By elementary school, she’d racked up a trophy case full of awards. They put her in figure skating, and she hoped to compete at the national level, with her sights set on the 2010 Winter Olympics in Vancouver until she tore a ligament in her knee. Some nights during elementary school, Jennifer would come home from skating practice at 10 p.m., do homework until midnight, then head to bed. The pressure was intense. She began cutting herself—little horizontal cuts on her forearms.
     

    Jennifer’s parents assumed their daughter was an A student; in truth, she earned mostly Bs—respectable for most kids but unacceptable in her strict household. So Jennifer continued to doctor her report cards throughout high school. She received early acceptance to Ryerson, but then failed calculus in her final year and wasn’t able to graduate. The university withdrew its offer. Desperate to keep her parents from digging into her high school records, she lied and said she’d be starting at Ryerson in the fall. She said her plan was to do two years of science, then transfer over to U of T’s pharmacology program, which was her father’s hope. Hann was delighted and bought her a laptop. Jennifer collected used biology and physics textbooks and bought school supplies. In September, she pretended to attend frosh week. When it came to tuition, she doctored papers stating she was receiving an OSAP loan and convinced her dad she’d won a $3,000 scholarship.

    She would pack up her book bag and take public transit downtown. Her parents assumed she was headed to class. Instead, Jennifer would go to public libraries, where she would research on the Web what she figured were relevant scientific topics and fill her books with copious notes. She’d spend her free time at cafés or visiting Daniel at York University, where he was taking classes. She picked up a few day shifts as a server at East Side Mario’s in Markham, taught piano lessons and later tended bar at a Boston Pizza where Daniel worked as a kitchen manager. At home, Hann often asked Jennifer about her studies, but Bich told him not to interfere. “Let her be herself,” she’d say.

     


    Jennifer resisted, but Daniel had grown weary of their secret romance. She was 24 and still sneaking around, terrified of her parents’ tirades but not willing to leave home. He told her to figure out her life, and he broke off their relationship. Jennifer was heartbroken. Shortly thereafter, she learned that Daniel was seeing a girl named Christine. In an attempt to win back his attention and discredit Christine, she concocted a bizarre tale. She told him a man had knocked on her door and flashed what looked like a police badge. When she opened the door, a group of men rushed in, overpowered her and gang-raped her in the foyer of her house. Then a few days later, she said, she received a bullet in an envelope in her mailbox. Both instances, she alleged, were warnings from Christine to leave Daniel alone.
     
    http://www.torontolife.com/informer/features/2015/07/22/jennifer-pan-revenge/

    Replies: @Bad memories, @nglaer

    wow, this is much more vivid than today’s Times story on the same case!

  22. Please forgive the self-promotion, but the better comparison for Trump is not with Clinton, but this guy:

    http://justnotsaid.blogspot.com/2015/07/goldfinger-jr.html

  23. Almost a decade ago I went on a hotel bar pub crawl in Chicago. On a winter Saturday about the most fun possible. Keep the group small, 6 max. Make sure you don’t have loud drunks. Dress well, no jeans. Stout footwear is a must.

    Start att the Big Bar at Hyatt Regency. Nip across the river to the Intercontinental. Across Michigan Ave to Peninsula (great bar, very clubby). I would probably hit Trump but it was not open then. Park Hyatt, another great bar. Ambassador nicest bar, worst unionized service.

    By that point we were smashed and jolly. Got some cheap pizza and went to bed.

    Everyone should do it.

  24. @Buzz Mohawk
    I can't wait until he remodels the White House.

    Imagine a big, gold, TRUMP sign over the front door.

    (I bet Melania speaks better English than Columba, BTW.)

    We've had characters as presidents several times in our history. There is no reason we can't have this character now.

    I keep watching the MSM doing everything it can to say he is not to be taken seriously (the same things they said about Ronald Reagan) while they treat lifetime, bought buffoons as expert leaders. Nonsense. Trump can win, and there is a Silent Majority that agrees with him on issues essential to American sovereignty and economic strength.

    Replies: @Maj. Kong, @tbraton, @Alfa158, @International Jew

    “(I bet Melania speaks better English than Columba, BTW.)”

    You like betting on sure shots, I see. There are videos of Melania speaking English, and, despite the slight accent, she is very articulate in English.

    Like many Europeans, I am pretty sure she learned English in school and probably had a pretty good command of English before coming to America 20 or so years ago. In the case of Columba, we have videos of her speaking Spanish. Since I don’t speak Spanish, I cannot judge her mastery of Spanish.

    • Replies: @tbraton
    @tbraton

    I think we have arrived at a Constitutional crisis as a result of the Melania vs. Columba controversy. (I would note that both are foreign born, and both would be barred by our beloved Constitution from running for President, but they both are potential First Ladies (or should we now say First Persons or First Whatevers in light of recent Supreme Court decisions?).) Just as the Aaron Burr-Thomas Jefferson brouhaha led to adoption of the 12th Amendment to the Constitution requiring a separate vote for President and Vice President to avoid a repetition of the 1800 election where Burr and Jefferson were running on the same ticket and tied, requiring Congress to sort out the mess, we are now faced with a similar problem where one potential candidate for First Lady is clearly superior to the other. Since Melania is far superior to Columba in my estimation (in looks, in age, in command of English) and the position of First Lady has attained such importance in our Presidential system, I believe we need a separate vote for President, Vice President and First Lady. That would require a Constitutional amendment.

    The seriousness of the problem is shown by the distinct possibility that the ultimate race may come down to Donald Trump vs. Hillary Clinton. Does anybody think the country will be better served by having a First Husband or First Person or First Whatever (Bill Clinton) rather than an attractive First Lady (Melania Trump)? Should Trump lose to Clinton for President, the country would be much better off having Melania for First Lady than Bill Clinton for First Husband. If something terrible were to happen to the President necessitating the elevation of the Vice President to the first team, having the same First Lady continuing in office would offer the country a sense of stability and continuity that is very important to the national psychology and that reassurance would allow the country to resume shopping in less time thus providing an important boost to the economy. (If I recall correctly, that is based on something "the Maestro" Alan Greenspan uttered once, but his language was so garbled I may have misinterpreted him.)

    Upon further reflection, I believe any Constitutional amendment should specify that the post is "First Lady" and must be occupied by a woman. This would be a subtle first step in regaining our moral balance, which appears somewhat wobbly at this point, and restoring our traditional values. Of course, we would have to have very bright legal scholars (sort of like John Roberts) write the language carefully so that we don't wind up with a ringer like Caitlyn Jenner or Renee Richards. (We may have to adopt the strict standards of the Olympic Games and even mandate tests to assure the requirement is satisfied.) The reason why this would be important is that women have truly earned a place at the table. Look at the current setup: we have a male President, a male Vice President and a female First Lady. But what if Barack Obama had been a switch hitter and instead of Michelle Obama we had Michael Obama? In that case, every important executive position would be filled by a male. An all male lineup would be intolerable in this day and age. No, it would be much better to reserve the position of First Lady to someone who not only is but can prove she is a woman.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

  25. Sorry but another OT posting:

    NY Magazine has a story up where 35 (!) of the women who are accusing Bill Cosby of drugging and raping them each give their stories:

    http://www.nymag.com/thecut/2015/07/bill-cosbys-accusers-speak-out.html?

    A couple of observations:

    1. Bill Cosby has a thing for white chicks. The closest he gets to a black woman are a couple of light skinned mulattas.

    2. Time is not kind to women. All of these women were presumably “hot” or at least somewhat attractive back when Bill Cosby hit on them (mostly 30 or 40 years ago). Now they range from grandmotherly (the ones who have let themselves age naturally) to horrifying (the ones who have tried to remain attractive with plastic surgery and a lot of makeup) . Not one of them is still more than maybe a 2 or 3 and some fall in the category of negative numbers. Janice Dickinson was once a supermodel – today she looks like the winner of the Caitlyn Jenner lookalike contest. There are men who are plausibly attractive into their ’60s, but Mother Nature really does a number on women after menopause.

    • Replies: @anon
    @Jack D


    NY Magazine has a story up where 35 (!) of the women who are accusing Bill Cosby of drugging and raping them
     
    One of the many things wrong with feminism is they like to make out rape is a ubiquitous male thing when in reality - apart from youth gangs - it's largely a diluted form of serial killing where a certain type of man rapes a lot of women over his lifetime. If feminists didn't constantly try to make it an anti-male thing but put some effort into studying the reality that might lead to improving the policing of it.

    #

    The other thing about Cosby is like Saville in the UK people in the industry would have known and covered it up.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    , @Glossy
    @Jack D

    Beauty is simply our reproductive system's "open for business" sign.

    , @e
    @Jack D

    "There are men who are plausibly attractive into their ’60s, but Mother Nature really does a number on women after menopause."


    Come, come. You sound like a man in denial.

    Men sag badly. Take a look at the musculature of most men, even those not considered overweight, in their 60s. Men sag just as women do: their biceps, their chests, their chins, the ears of many white men grow very large and sag, their scrotum... yes, man, you guys DO sag just as we women do.

    In fact, I'd say most American women in their 50s and 60s look better than most men of the same age.

    What the heck do you think Cosby has looked like for the last 25 years?

    Replies: @SPMoore8, @27 year old

    , @Former Darfur
    @Jack D

    Working for a real estate company that owned a couple of Midwest dinner theaters, I got to get pretty close to Dawn Wells, Morgan Fairchild, and Barbara Eden among others. I'd have been on the job with any of them without hesitation.

    , @Yngvar
    @Jack D


    NY Magazine has a story up where 35 (!) of the women who are accusing Bill Cosby of drugging and raping them
     
    It must be really humiliating for Mr. Cosby - the claim that he couldn't get a lay without drugging the women. That's a direct attack on his manhood and reputation as a ladies man. I believe that is the point; the women are making it all up.

    Replies: @anon

    , @tbraton
    @Jack D

    A couple of weeks back I watched a video of an interview black comedian Jimmy Walker had with Shepherd (?) Smith of Fox News re the Cosby matter. Walker impressed me by giving calm, rational, nonemotional, level-headed and apparently honest responses to Smith's questions. Walker had worked both with and for Cosby for many years in the past. His responses were very interesting. He said "everybody" was aware that Cosby had girls chasing him back in the day. He cited one case where a young attractive woman was hanging around the set, and he tried to hit on her. She informed him that she was involved with another performer, and, when Walker asked her "who?," she responded "Bill Cosby." Walker spoke with admiration of Cosby, calling him a "giant" in the field, but he was mystified by one thing: with all the women ready to throw themselves at him why it was necessary for Cosby to resort to drugs?

    Replies: @Lugash

  26. OT: I’m a bit speechless after this New Yorker piece:

    http://www.newyorker.com/culture/cultural-comment/kim-caitlyn-and-the-people-we-want-to-see

    The tagline of which is:

    It would not be absurd to liken Caitlyn’s obvious delight in her beauty, as revealed by photos and her own blog posts, to Kim Kardashian’s pleasure in her many selfies.

    which I can only translate as:

    It would not be absurd to liken horse shit to cow manure.

    O.K., I thought, that’s just some dumb cultural commentator who somehow sneaked into The New Yorker, but here’s the author’s bio:

    Stephen Burt is a professor of English at Harvard. He is the author of several books of poetry and criticism, including “Belmont: Poems.”

  27. The game is rigged anyway so I don’t really care what Trump is up to as long as he annoys the media.

  28. anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Jack D
    Sorry but another OT posting:

    NY Magazine has a story up where 35 (!) of the women who are accusing Bill Cosby of drugging and raping them each give their stories:

    http://www.nymag.com/thecut/2015/07/bill-cosbys-accusers-speak-out.html?

    A couple of observations:

    1. Bill Cosby has a thing for white chicks. The closest he gets to a black woman are a couple of light skinned mulattas.

    2. Time is not kind to women. All of these women were presumably "hot" or at least somewhat attractive back when Bill Cosby hit on them (mostly 30 or 40 years ago). Now they range from grandmotherly (the ones who have let themselves age naturally) to horrifying (the ones who have tried to remain attractive with plastic surgery and a lot of makeup) . Not one of them is still more than maybe a 2 or 3 and some fall in the category of negative numbers. Janice Dickinson was once a supermodel - today she looks like the winner of the Caitlyn Jenner lookalike contest. There are men who are plausibly attractive into their '60s, but Mother Nature really does a number on women after menopause.

    Replies: @anon, @Glossy, @e, @Former Darfur, @Yngvar, @tbraton

    NY Magazine has a story up where 35 (!) of the women who are accusing Bill Cosby of drugging and raping them

    One of the many things wrong with feminism is they like to make out rape is a ubiquitous male thing when in reality – apart from youth gangs – it’s largely a diluted form of serial killing where a certain type of man rapes a lot of women over his lifetime. If feminists didn’t constantly try to make it an anti-male thing but put some effort into studying the reality that might lead to improving the policing of it.

    #

    The other thing about Cosby is like Saville in the UK people in the industry would have known and covered it up.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @anon


    … it’s largely a diluted form of serial killing where a certain type of man rapes a lot of women over his lifetime.
     
    Interesting contrast of Bills-- Cosby was a one-trick pony; Clinton never used the same method twice. He also knew the law inside-out, and what could be successfully prosecuted.



    The other thing about Cosby is like Saville in the UK people in the industry would have known and covered it up.

     

  29. @Buzz Mohawk
    I can't wait until he remodels the White House.

    Imagine a big, gold, TRUMP sign over the front door.

    (I bet Melania speaks better English than Columba, BTW.)

    We've had characters as presidents several times in our history. There is no reason we can't have this character now.

    I keep watching the MSM doing everything it can to say he is not to be taken seriously (the same things they said about Ronald Reagan) while they treat lifetime, bought buffoons as expert leaders. Nonsense. Trump can win, and there is a Silent Majority that agrees with him on issues essential to American sovereignty and economic strength.

    Replies: @Maj. Kong, @tbraton, @Alfa158, @International Jew

    James Carville said about a year ago that the biggest danger to a Hillary presidency would be a Republican running a populist campaign. If Trump tailors his rhetoric to also focus on globalization, out-sourcing and off-shoring and the destruction of the middle class, he has a good chance to get Republicans back in the voting booth, and to bring back the Reagan Democrats back to the fold.
    If he can win enough caucuses and primaries, they won’t be able to keep him out of the convention and Jeb will be left to decide if HE wants to be the one running as a third party candidate.

    • Replies: @Maj. Kong
    @Alfa158

    A brokered convention, I'd get a front row seat here in Northeast Ohio

  30. This ain’t Flogton, Scooter.

  31. @Harold
    @22pp22

    Growing up in New Zealand I often used to hear mentions of the beauty of New Zealand, and I’d think, “Is it really that great?”. Then I went overseas, and when I got back all I could think was “Holy God! New Zealand is beautiful!”. Now where do we get our cheques from the tourism board?

    Replies: @International Jew

    After you tow your island(s) up where I don’t need to fly 10 hours to reach you.

    • Replies: @BurplesonAFB
    @International Jew

    13 from LAX

    Replies: @International Jew

  32. As a woman, I have to say it’s amazing Greg Norman was such a great driver of the ball when he had no buns. That’s almost a chinese ass.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Anonymous

    We have a winner!

    Best comment on this thread.

    Hands down.

  33. @Buzz Mohawk
    I can't wait until he remodels the White House.

    Imagine a big, gold, TRUMP sign over the front door.

    (I bet Melania speaks better English than Columba, BTW.)

    We've had characters as presidents several times in our history. There is no reason we can't have this character now.

    I keep watching the MSM doing everything it can to say he is not to be taken seriously (the same things they said about Ronald Reagan) while they treat lifetime, bought buffoons as expert leaders. Nonsense. Trump can win, and there is a Silent Majority that agrees with him on issues essential to American sovereignty and economic strength.

    Replies: @Maj. Kong, @tbraton, @Alfa158, @International Jew

    I can’t wait until he remodels the White House.

    I was ambivalent about a Trump presidency — until now.

    Are the WH grounds big enough for a nine-hole golf course?

  34. OT, but funny as heck.

    Was in Johannesburg recently and 3 news items jumped out at me, mixed in which the typical stories of Zuma’s spending habits, unsolved murders and the ongoing bemoaning of vigilante justice (for which, btw, any sane person couldn’t blame the villagers involved; stealing cows and killing old women with pangas peeves people off). I’m seeing a thread between the 3, namely irresponsibility.

    http://www.iol.co.za/news/politics/new-child-sex-law-aims-to-protect-1.1889270#.Vba4m_MViko

    Protect the children by decriminalizing sex between kids aged 12-15. As if Africa needed any help with population growth.

    Haitian embassy is a deadbeat:
    http://www.iol.co.za/news/south-africa/gauteng/embassy-owes-r550-500-in-unpaid-rent-1.1887197#.Vba5LvMViko

    http://www.timeslive.co.za/sundaytimes/stnews/2015/06/14/Zulu-Kings-wedding-planner-still-waiting-to-be-paid

    MLK ain’t got nothing on Mandela, aka Madiba. He isn’t quite up to Lenin status with having stuff named after him, but he’s getting there. In an ongoing need to honor Mandela and waste taxpayer money, the new black elite have invented “pretears” parties.

    http://www.dispatchlive.co.za/news/mandela-funeral-pre-tears-party-shock-2/

  35. @Jack D
    OT - The Eye of Sauron has now turned to Prairie View, Texas :

    "Texas County’s Racial Past Is Seen as Prelude to Sandra Bland’s Death"

    http://www.nytimes.com/2015/07/27/us/racial-divide-persists-in-texas-county-where-sandra-bland-died.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&module=second-column-region&region=top-news&WT.nav=top-news&_r=0

    Prairie View was so racist in the past that their government funded a college for black people there 140 years ago, but never mind. In other countries with oppressed minorities, the government funds colleges for them also - there is the University of Gypsies in Romania, Rohingya U. in Burma, etc.

    Apparently, white people harm black bodies even when said black bodies string themselves up - a virtual lynching for a virtual age.

    If you listen to the tape, the traffic stop goes reasonably well until the trooper asks Bland to put out her cigarette and she refuses. You would think by now that all black parents have had The Talk with their kids and that part of the Talk is that if a cop makes a reasonable request that you do not invite trouble on your head by disobeying him. Failing to do so displays a lack of common sense. Maybe Sandra Bland wasn't the sharpest tack in the box, but I think this goes beyond that - there is some sort of willful desire to push the limits to see how much you can get away with due to your "racial immunity" and sometimes the racial immunity fails and you reap the whirlwind. All she needed to do was put out the cigarette and 5 minutes later she would have been on her way but she couldn't bring herself to do that much.

    Replies: @candid_observer, @Grace Jones, @Kevin O'Keeffe

    She very likely would have escaped any further repurcussions — or certainly would have escaped much of her ordeal — if she had merely complied with his subsequent demand that she step out of the car.

    But no, she couldn’t do that. She had all these “rights” she made up in her head on the spot.

    Frankly, I would have complied if for no other reason that I don’t even know what my true rights are in situations like that. It may seem as if a police officer shouldn’t be able lawfully to demand that I put out a cigarette, but how do I know? Even after all the “expert” commentary on this issue, it still isn’t obvious to me whether they do. And I certainly would never expect that I had a right to refuse to get out of the car when so requested, and especially not when I was told by the officer that he was making a “lawful command”.

    Is it really at all plausible that Sandra Bland really understood what her rights were, but I would not have any real idea?

    No: she had just decided she was going to be defiant and disrespectful and that was that.

    I’m supposed to sympathize with this?

  36. @International Jew
    @Harold

    After you tow your island(s) up where I don't need to fly 10 hours to reach you.

    Replies: @BurplesonAFB

    13 from LAX

    • Replies: @International Jew
    @BurplesonAFB

    How do you know I'm not a giant tortoise living in the Galapagos Islands?

  37. @Jack D
    Sorry but another OT posting:

    NY Magazine has a story up where 35 (!) of the women who are accusing Bill Cosby of drugging and raping them each give their stories:

    http://www.nymag.com/thecut/2015/07/bill-cosbys-accusers-speak-out.html?

    A couple of observations:

    1. Bill Cosby has a thing for white chicks. The closest he gets to a black woman are a couple of light skinned mulattas.

    2. Time is not kind to women. All of these women were presumably "hot" or at least somewhat attractive back when Bill Cosby hit on them (mostly 30 or 40 years ago). Now they range from grandmotherly (the ones who have let themselves age naturally) to horrifying (the ones who have tried to remain attractive with plastic surgery and a lot of makeup) . Not one of them is still more than maybe a 2 or 3 and some fall in the category of negative numbers. Janice Dickinson was once a supermodel - today she looks like the winner of the Caitlyn Jenner lookalike contest. There are men who are plausibly attractive into their '60s, but Mother Nature really does a number on women after menopause.

    Replies: @anon, @Glossy, @e, @Former Darfur, @Yngvar, @tbraton

    Beauty is simply our reproductive system’s “open for business” sign.

  38. Anon • Disclaimer says:

    http://www.wsj.com/articles/u-s-preparing-to-release-convicted-israeli-spy-jonathan-pollard-officials-say-1437766957

    Seriously, if Pollard were arrested today for similar crimes, he would be charged with nothing and just let go. That’s how powerful Jews have gotten in the US. Whatever they want, they get. If they want deregulated Wall Street, they get it. If they want the Iraq War, they get it. If they want the destruction of Libya and Syria, they get it. If they want Wall Street bailout, they get it. If they want ‘gay marriage’, they get it. If they want a war in Ukraine, they get it. If they want death to Palestinians, they get it.
    If they want Pollard released, they get it.

    Meanwhile, they use the media to fill our minds with ‘Caitlyn’ Jenner.

  39. @Alfa158
    @Buzz Mohawk

    James Carville said about a year ago that the biggest danger to a Hillary presidency would be a Republican running a populist campaign. If Trump tailors his rhetoric to also focus on globalization, out-sourcing and off-shoring and the destruction of the middle class, he has a good chance to get Republicans back in the voting booth, and to bring back the Reagan Democrats back to the fold.
    If he can win enough caucuses and primaries, they won't be able to keep him out of the convention and Jeb will be left to decide if HE wants to be the one running as a third party candidate.

    Replies: @Maj. Kong

    A brokered convention, I’d get a front row seat here in Northeast Ohio

  40. e says:
    @Jack D
    Sorry but another OT posting:

    NY Magazine has a story up where 35 (!) of the women who are accusing Bill Cosby of drugging and raping them each give their stories:

    http://www.nymag.com/thecut/2015/07/bill-cosbys-accusers-speak-out.html?

    A couple of observations:

    1. Bill Cosby has a thing for white chicks. The closest he gets to a black woman are a couple of light skinned mulattas.

    2. Time is not kind to women. All of these women were presumably "hot" or at least somewhat attractive back when Bill Cosby hit on them (mostly 30 or 40 years ago). Now they range from grandmotherly (the ones who have let themselves age naturally) to horrifying (the ones who have tried to remain attractive with plastic surgery and a lot of makeup) . Not one of them is still more than maybe a 2 or 3 and some fall in the category of negative numbers. Janice Dickinson was once a supermodel - today she looks like the winner of the Caitlyn Jenner lookalike contest. There are men who are plausibly attractive into their '60s, but Mother Nature really does a number on women after menopause.

    Replies: @anon, @Glossy, @e, @Former Darfur, @Yngvar, @tbraton

    “There are men who are plausibly attractive into their ’60s, but Mother Nature really does a number on women after menopause.”

    Come, come. You sound like a man in denial.

    Men sag badly. Take a look at the musculature of most men, even those not considered overweight, in their 60s. Men sag just as women do: their biceps, their chests, their chins, the ears of many white men grow very large and sag, their scrotum… yes, man, you guys DO sag just as we women do.

    In fact, I’d say most American women in their 50s and 60s look better than most men of the same age.

    What the heck do you think Cosby has looked like for the last 25 years?

    • Replies: @SPMoore8
    @e

    Yeah, I've heard a lot of women say that a saggy scrote is an absolute deal breaker. Not.

    Of course if you would even notice something like that it suggests there's something less than mesmerizing about the rest of the equipment.

    Furthermore, I am skeptical of this claim because I am in my '60's and this claim does not reflect empirical reality. So, unless a guy has an inguinal hernia such that his sac swells to the size of a grapefruit on a bad day, I'm skeptical. On the other hand, I'm with you on the ear hair. What could possibly be the reason for that?

    The biggest turnoff for both sexes is that they get fat as they get old. On a woman, it's not so bad as long as it keeps proportion. But I agree, a big turnoff. Thus if you intend to remain active into old age it's a good idea to exercise, watch your diet, do those scrotum tightening exercises, etc.

    Sort of ignored here is that the negative evaluation of the women in question had to do with their faces not their naughty bits. And that much is generally true, while the underlying material remains soft and supple, the face generally ages and acquires, let's call it, "wisdom." The fact is, men can get away with an old man's face. But a rugged looking woman is going to get those 2's and 3's unless she has a wonderful personality.

    Replies: @shk12344

    , @27 year old
    @e

    "In fact, I’d say most American women in their 50s and 60s look better than most men of the same age."


    HA............. hahahahahahahahahaha




    hahahahahahaha




    please leave

    Replies: @Anonymous Nephew

  41. @Jack D
    Sorry but another OT posting:

    NY Magazine has a story up where 35 (!) of the women who are accusing Bill Cosby of drugging and raping them each give their stories:

    http://www.nymag.com/thecut/2015/07/bill-cosbys-accusers-speak-out.html?

    A couple of observations:

    1. Bill Cosby has a thing for white chicks. The closest he gets to a black woman are a couple of light skinned mulattas.

    2. Time is not kind to women. All of these women were presumably "hot" or at least somewhat attractive back when Bill Cosby hit on them (mostly 30 or 40 years ago). Now they range from grandmotherly (the ones who have let themselves age naturally) to horrifying (the ones who have tried to remain attractive with plastic surgery and a lot of makeup) . Not one of them is still more than maybe a 2 or 3 and some fall in the category of negative numbers. Janice Dickinson was once a supermodel - today she looks like the winner of the Caitlyn Jenner lookalike contest. There are men who are plausibly attractive into their '60s, but Mother Nature really does a number on women after menopause.

    Replies: @anon, @Glossy, @e, @Former Darfur, @Yngvar, @tbraton

    Working for a real estate company that owned a couple of Midwest dinner theaters, I got to get pretty close to Dawn Wells, Morgan Fairchild, and Barbara Eden among others. I’d have been on the job with any of them without hesitation.

  42. @tbraton
    @Buzz Mohawk

    "(I bet Melania speaks better English than Columba, BTW.)"

    You like betting on sure shots, I see. There are videos of Melania speaking English, and, despite the slight accent, she is very articulate in English. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_EdmMpN1Qoc Like many Europeans, I am pretty sure she learned English in school and probably had a pretty good command of English before coming to America 20 or so years ago. In the case of Columba, we have videos of her speaking Spanish. Since I don't speak Spanish, I cannot judge her mastery of Spanish.

    Replies: @tbraton

    I think we have arrived at a Constitutional crisis as a result of the Melania vs. Columba controversy. (I would note that both are foreign born, and both would be barred by our beloved Constitution from running for President, but they both are potential First Ladies (or should we now say First Persons or First Whatevers in light of recent Supreme Court decisions?).) Just as the Aaron Burr-Thomas Jefferson brouhaha led to adoption of the 12th Amendment to the Constitution requiring a separate vote for President and Vice President to avoid a repetition of the 1800 election where Burr and Jefferson were running on the same ticket and tied, requiring Congress to sort out the mess, we are now faced with a similar problem where one potential candidate for First Lady is clearly superior to the other. Since Melania is far superior to Columba in my estimation (in looks, in age, in command of English) and the position of First Lady has attained such importance in our Presidential system, I believe we need a separate vote for President, Vice President and First Lady. That would require a Constitutional amendment.

    The seriousness of the problem is shown by the distinct possibility that the ultimate race may come down to Donald Trump vs. Hillary Clinton. Does anybody think the country will be better served by having a First Husband or First Person or First Whatever (Bill Clinton) rather than an attractive First Lady (Melania Trump)? Should Trump lose to Clinton for President, the country would be much better off having Melania for First Lady than Bill Clinton for First Husband. If something terrible were to happen to the President necessitating the elevation of the Vice President to the first team, having the same First Lady continuing in office would offer the country a sense of stability and continuity that is very important to the national psychology and that reassurance would allow the country to resume shopping in less time thus providing an important boost to the economy. (If I recall correctly, that is based on something “the Maestro” Alan Greenspan uttered once, but his language was so garbled I may have misinterpreted him.)

    Upon further reflection, I believe any Constitutional amendment should specify that the post is “First Lady” and must be occupied by a woman. This would be a subtle first step in regaining our moral balance, which appears somewhat wobbly at this point, and restoring our traditional values. Of course, we would have to have very bright legal scholars (sort of like John Roberts) write the language carefully so that we don’t wind up with a ringer like Caitlyn Jenner or Renee Richards. (We may have to adopt the strict standards of the Olympic Games and even mandate tests to assure the requirement is satisfied.) The reason why this would be important is that women have truly earned a place at the table. Look at the current setup: we have a male President, a male Vice President and a female First Lady. But what if Barack Obama had been a switch hitter and instead of Michelle Obama we had Michael Obama? In that case, every important executive position would be filled by a male. An all male lineup would be intolerable in this day and age. No, it would be much better to reserve the position of First Lady to someone who not only is but can prove she is a woman.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @tbraton


    We may have to adopt the strict standards of the Olympic Games…
     
    …and the Selective Service System. Those poor boys taking puberty blockers will be shocked to learn they still have to register.
  43. @Jack D
    Sorry but another OT posting:

    NY Magazine has a story up where 35 (!) of the women who are accusing Bill Cosby of drugging and raping them each give their stories:

    http://www.nymag.com/thecut/2015/07/bill-cosbys-accusers-speak-out.html?

    A couple of observations:

    1. Bill Cosby has a thing for white chicks. The closest he gets to a black woman are a couple of light skinned mulattas.

    2. Time is not kind to women. All of these women were presumably "hot" or at least somewhat attractive back when Bill Cosby hit on them (mostly 30 or 40 years ago). Now they range from grandmotherly (the ones who have let themselves age naturally) to horrifying (the ones who have tried to remain attractive with plastic surgery and a lot of makeup) . Not one of them is still more than maybe a 2 or 3 and some fall in the category of negative numbers. Janice Dickinson was once a supermodel - today she looks like the winner of the Caitlyn Jenner lookalike contest. There are men who are plausibly attractive into their '60s, but Mother Nature really does a number on women after menopause.

    Replies: @anon, @Glossy, @e, @Former Darfur, @Yngvar, @tbraton

    NY Magazine has a story up where 35 (!) of the women who are accusing Bill Cosby of drugging and raping them

    It must be really humiliating for Mr. Cosby – the claim that he couldn’t get a lay without drugging the women. That’s a direct attack on his manhood and reputation as a ladies man. I believe that is the point; the women are making it all up.

    • Replies: @anon
    @Yngvar

    Serial rapists are often very charming - they do it as an aspect of sociopathy - a safer form of serial killing that's easier to get away with.

    Replies: @Yngvar

  44. @e
    @Jack D

    "There are men who are plausibly attractive into their ’60s, but Mother Nature really does a number on women after menopause."


    Come, come. You sound like a man in denial.

    Men sag badly. Take a look at the musculature of most men, even those not considered overweight, in their 60s. Men sag just as women do: their biceps, their chests, their chins, the ears of many white men grow very large and sag, their scrotum... yes, man, you guys DO sag just as we women do.

    In fact, I'd say most American women in their 50s and 60s look better than most men of the same age.

    What the heck do you think Cosby has looked like for the last 25 years?

    Replies: @SPMoore8, @27 year old

    Yeah, I’ve heard a lot of women say that a saggy scrote is an absolute deal breaker. Not.

    Of course if you would even notice something like that it suggests there’s something less than mesmerizing about the rest of the equipment.

    Furthermore, I am skeptical of this claim because I am in my ’60’s and this claim does not reflect empirical reality. So, unless a guy has an inguinal hernia such that his sac swells to the size of a grapefruit on a bad day, I’m skeptical. On the other hand, I’m with you on the ear hair. What could possibly be the reason for that?

    The biggest turnoff for both sexes is that they get fat as they get old. On a woman, it’s not so bad as long as it keeps proportion. But I agree, a big turnoff. Thus if you intend to remain active into old age it’s a good idea to exercise, watch your diet, do those scrotum tightening exercises, etc.

    Sort of ignored here is that the negative evaluation of the women in question had to do with their faces not their naughty bits. And that much is generally true, while the underlying material remains soft and supple, the face generally ages and acquires, let’s call it, “wisdom.” The fact is, men can get away with an old man’s face. But a rugged looking woman is going to get those 2’s and 3’s unless she has a wonderful personality.

    • Replies: @shk12344
    @SPMoore8

    Scrotum tightening exercises???

    Replies: @Dirk Dagger

  45. @Yngvar
    @Jack D


    NY Magazine has a story up where 35 (!) of the women who are accusing Bill Cosby of drugging and raping them
     
    It must be really humiliating for Mr. Cosby - the claim that he couldn't get a lay without drugging the women. That's a direct attack on his manhood and reputation as a ladies man. I believe that is the point; the women are making it all up.

    Replies: @anon

    Serial rapists are often very charming – they do it as an aspect of sociopathy – a safer form of serial killing that’s easier to get away with.

    • Replies: @Yngvar
    @anon

    Well, I wouldn't know, so I'll just have to trust You on that.

    What happened to poor Mr. Cosby was that some vengeful lady from his past decided to smear him for drama and possible profit. Some other women saw this and realized they had never been a 'special' or 'exclusive' bedding to him, so they felt used. And what's the word for being used for another person's pleasure? Yeah - Rape! And then they all piled on...
    It's all rubbish. He screwed all of them fair and square.

  46. @SPMoore8
    @e

    Yeah, I've heard a lot of women say that a saggy scrote is an absolute deal breaker. Not.

    Of course if you would even notice something like that it suggests there's something less than mesmerizing about the rest of the equipment.

    Furthermore, I am skeptical of this claim because I am in my '60's and this claim does not reflect empirical reality. So, unless a guy has an inguinal hernia such that his sac swells to the size of a grapefruit on a bad day, I'm skeptical. On the other hand, I'm with you on the ear hair. What could possibly be the reason for that?

    The biggest turnoff for both sexes is that they get fat as they get old. On a woman, it's not so bad as long as it keeps proportion. But I agree, a big turnoff. Thus if you intend to remain active into old age it's a good idea to exercise, watch your diet, do those scrotum tightening exercises, etc.

    Sort of ignored here is that the negative evaluation of the women in question had to do with their faces not their naughty bits. And that much is generally true, while the underlying material remains soft and supple, the face generally ages and acquires, let's call it, "wisdom." The fact is, men can get away with an old man's face. But a rugged looking woman is going to get those 2's and 3's unless she has a wonderful personality.

    Replies: @shk12344

    Scrotum tightening exercises???

    • Replies: @Dirk Dagger
    @shk12344

    No! Scrotoplasty!

    Replies: @SPMoore8

  47. Dirk Dagger [AKA "Chico Caldera"] says: • Website
    @shk12344
    @SPMoore8

    Scrotum tightening exercises???

    Replies: @Dirk Dagger

    No! Scrotoplasty!

    • Replies: @SPMoore8
    @Dirk Dagger

    @shk12344

    Let's put it this way: how many men run off to plastic surgeons to get a sack lift?

    I rest my case.

    Replies: @Grace Jones, @Reg Cæsar

  48. @Jack D
    Sorry but another OT posting:

    NY Magazine has a story up where 35 (!) of the women who are accusing Bill Cosby of drugging and raping them each give their stories:

    http://www.nymag.com/thecut/2015/07/bill-cosbys-accusers-speak-out.html?

    A couple of observations:

    1. Bill Cosby has a thing for white chicks. The closest he gets to a black woman are a couple of light skinned mulattas.

    2. Time is not kind to women. All of these women were presumably "hot" or at least somewhat attractive back when Bill Cosby hit on them (mostly 30 or 40 years ago). Now they range from grandmotherly (the ones who have let themselves age naturally) to horrifying (the ones who have tried to remain attractive with plastic surgery and a lot of makeup) . Not one of them is still more than maybe a 2 or 3 and some fall in the category of negative numbers. Janice Dickinson was once a supermodel - today she looks like the winner of the Caitlyn Jenner lookalike contest. There are men who are plausibly attractive into their '60s, but Mother Nature really does a number on women after menopause.

    Replies: @anon, @Glossy, @e, @Former Darfur, @Yngvar, @tbraton

    A couple of weeks back I watched a video of an interview black comedian Jimmy Walker had with Shepherd (?) Smith of Fox News re the Cosby matter. Walker impressed me by giving calm, rational, nonemotional, level-headed and apparently honest responses to Smith’s questions. Walker had worked both with and for Cosby for many years in the past. His responses were very interesting. He said “everybody” was aware that Cosby had girls chasing him back in the day. He cited one case where a young attractive woman was hanging around the set, and he tried to hit on her. She informed him that she was involved with another performer, and, when Walker asked her “who?,” she responded “Bill Cosby.” Walker spoke with admiration of Cosby, calling him a “giant” in the field, but he was mystified by one thing: with all the women ready to throw themselves at him why it was necessary for Cosby to resort to drugs?

    • Replies: @Lugash
    @tbraton

    Possible explanations have been that he lost his virginity with an unconscious woman and the experience imprinted on him, or that he wanted anal sex in a time that it wasn't common. Or he just gets off on women being helpless.

    Replies: @Anonymous Nephew

  49. @Dirk Dagger
    @shk12344

    No! Scrotoplasty!

    Replies: @SPMoore8

    Let’s put it this way: how many men run off to plastic surgeons to get a sack lift?

    I rest my case.

    • Replies: @Grace Jones
    @SPMoore8

    TA-DAAAH!
    http://www.sierraplasticsurgery.net/faq_s/scrotum-lift-and-scrotal-reduction-faqs/

    , @Reg Cæsar
    @SPMoore8


    Let’s put it this way: how many men run off to plastic surgeons to get a sack lift?
     
    We need a follow-up to this classic book.

    "Scrotal Politics"

  50. Playing the National tomorrow. Lunch, 18 holes, dinner, poker, spend the night at the club, breakfast, then another 18 holes. If any wasp cabal reveals its secrets I win report.

  51. I wouldn’t. Wouldn’t mind a shot at Melissa McBride, either.

    I keep watching the MSM doing everything it can to say he is not to be taken seriously (the same things they said about Ronald Reagan)

    He can absolutely win, if he doesn’t pile up too many genuine gaffes (nobody who will vote for him cares about him gut-punching weasels like McCain or slapping criminal aliens around).

    Heard some jackass on the insufferable Megan McCain’s radio show (I’ve listened to it for 10 minutes and she’s already insufferable, with at least 3 positive mentions of the homo agenda so far, and one admission she’s a RINO like her male DNA contributor) today talking about how a lot of Americans can’t stand decorum in politics, so they love Trump. What an ass. Decorum’s great, until you catch the guy across from you with an ace up his sleeve. Put another way, decorum demands you punch him in the face. Acting as though the American electorate is opposed to decorum per se because they’re pumping Trump is like saying a doughboy hates decorum because he got all muddy jumping into a trench to avoid machine gun fire.

  52. @Jack D
    OT - The Eye of Sauron has now turned to Prairie View, Texas :

    "Texas County’s Racial Past Is Seen as Prelude to Sandra Bland’s Death"

    http://www.nytimes.com/2015/07/27/us/racial-divide-persists-in-texas-county-where-sandra-bland-died.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&module=second-column-region&region=top-news&WT.nav=top-news&_r=0

    Prairie View was so racist in the past that their government funded a college for black people there 140 years ago, but never mind. In other countries with oppressed minorities, the government funds colleges for them also - there is the University of Gypsies in Romania, Rohingya U. in Burma, etc.

    Apparently, white people harm black bodies even when said black bodies string themselves up - a virtual lynching for a virtual age.

    If you listen to the tape, the traffic stop goes reasonably well until the trooper asks Bland to put out her cigarette and she refuses. You would think by now that all black parents have had The Talk with their kids and that part of the Talk is that if a cop makes a reasonable request that you do not invite trouble on your head by disobeying him. Failing to do so displays a lack of common sense. Maybe Sandra Bland wasn't the sharpest tack in the box, but I think this goes beyond that - there is some sort of willful desire to push the limits to see how much you can get away with due to your "racial immunity" and sometimes the racial immunity fails and you reap the whirlwind. All she needed to do was put out the cigarette and 5 minutes later she would have been on her way but she couldn't bring herself to do that much.

    Replies: @candid_observer, @Grace Jones, @Kevin O'Keeffe

    She had a right to smoke in her own car, but supposedly not to refuse to get out of the car, although the trooper’s pretext of personal safety was pretty flimsy considering that the stop was as good as over by then.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @Grace Jones

    And I have the right to call you a dumb bitch, but I don't do it because I try to use courtesy and common sense in my daily interactions with strangers, regardless of how far the Constitution allows me to push things. When an armed police officer politely requests you to put out your cigarette, the correct response is "Yes, officer". You are not required to exercise your Constitutional rights to the fullest extent in every possible situation. Discretion is the better part of valor.

    Replies: @SPMoore8

  53. @Anon
    http://wpo.st/i77S0

    "Puerto Rican voters tend to lean Democratic, but a great number of the newcomers do not identify with any party, making them appealing targets for politicians and recruiters on both sides. Like those living in other U.S. territories, people in Puerto Rico cannot vote for president in the U.S. general election."

    'Tend'? Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight!!!! LOL.

    http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jul/26/scandinavia-far-right-stolen-left-ground-welfare

    The right and socialism were united in the early 20th century.

    Replies: @fnn, @Charles Erwin Wilson

    You are the victim of an absurd political spectrum designed to enervate your resistance to the Marxist Borg.

    An accurate political spectrum would have totalitarianism on the left and anarchy on the right.

    Communism is socialism and totalitarian as are all the children of Marx (cf. the 3rd S in USSR). The Nationalsozialismus (National Socialists – Nazis), were also totalitarian. Nazis differed from Communists in name and whom they desired to abuse only.

    The beneficiaries of Anglo-Saxon liberty are centered over the fulcrum of a genuine distribution of political sentiment. Conflating ‘Right’ and ‘Socialism’ amplifies noise at the expense of signal.

  54. @SPMoore8
    @Dirk Dagger

    @shk12344

    Let's put it this way: how many men run off to plastic surgeons to get a sack lift?

    I rest my case.

    Replies: @Grace Jones, @Reg Cæsar

  55. Interesting timing on this one. I just got back from the Calgary Folk Festival where Richard Thompson ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Thompson_(musician) ) performed a song about Trump’s golf courses destroying naturally beautiful parts of Scotland.

    “He builds and builds / Yet short is his erection”

    I’ve always thought resorting to dick jokes is an admission of not having much of an argument, but I’ve never won any awards for my songwriting either.

    • Replies: @22pp22
    @ATX Hipster

    Wind farms are what is really wrecking Scotland.

    Replies: @Anonymous Nephew

  56. @ATX Hipster
    Interesting timing on this one. I just got back from the Calgary Folk Festival where Richard Thompson ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Thompson_(musician) ) performed a song about Trump's golf courses destroying naturally beautiful parts of Scotland.

    "He builds and builds / Yet short is his erection"

    I've always thought resorting to dick jokes is an admission of not having much of an argument, but I've never won any awards for my songwriting either.

    Replies: @22pp22

    Wind farms are what is really wrecking Scotland.

    • Replies: @Anonymous Nephew
    @22pp22

    Trump strongly opposed the building of wind farms (which ruined the view from his proposed new golf course).

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aberdeen_Bay_Wind_Farm#Objections_by_Donald_Trump

    "I want to see the ocean, I do not want to see windmills."

    Salmond and co are indeed covering Scotland with windmills, including islands like Lewis and lovely peninsulas like Kintyre. Fortunately Arran is undefiled so the view from Turnberry's still pretty good. It (as of 2006) was featured on a repeated BBC TV series ("Coast") last night.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

  57. @anon
    @Jack D


    NY Magazine has a story up where 35 (!) of the women who are accusing Bill Cosby of drugging and raping them
     
    One of the many things wrong with feminism is they like to make out rape is a ubiquitous male thing when in reality - apart from youth gangs - it's largely a diluted form of serial killing where a certain type of man rapes a lot of women over his lifetime. If feminists didn't constantly try to make it an anti-male thing but put some effort into studying the reality that might lead to improving the policing of it.

    #

    The other thing about Cosby is like Saville in the UK people in the industry would have known and covered it up.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    … it’s largely a diluted form of serial killing where a certain type of man rapes a lot of women over his lifetime.

    Interesting contrast of Bills– Cosby was a one-trick pony; Clinton never used the same method twice. He also knew the law inside-out, and what could be successfully prosecuted.

    The other thing about Cosby is like Saville in the UK people in the industry would have known and covered it up.

  58. @tbraton
    @tbraton

    I think we have arrived at a Constitutional crisis as a result of the Melania vs. Columba controversy. (I would note that both are foreign born, and both would be barred by our beloved Constitution from running for President, but they both are potential First Ladies (or should we now say First Persons or First Whatevers in light of recent Supreme Court decisions?).) Just as the Aaron Burr-Thomas Jefferson brouhaha led to adoption of the 12th Amendment to the Constitution requiring a separate vote for President and Vice President to avoid a repetition of the 1800 election where Burr and Jefferson were running on the same ticket and tied, requiring Congress to sort out the mess, we are now faced with a similar problem where one potential candidate for First Lady is clearly superior to the other. Since Melania is far superior to Columba in my estimation (in looks, in age, in command of English) and the position of First Lady has attained such importance in our Presidential system, I believe we need a separate vote for President, Vice President and First Lady. That would require a Constitutional amendment.

    The seriousness of the problem is shown by the distinct possibility that the ultimate race may come down to Donald Trump vs. Hillary Clinton. Does anybody think the country will be better served by having a First Husband or First Person or First Whatever (Bill Clinton) rather than an attractive First Lady (Melania Trump)? Should Trump lose to Clinton for President, the country would be much better off having Melania for First Lady than Bill Clinton for First Husband. If something terrible were to happen to the President necessitating the elevation of the Vice President to the first team, having the same First Lady continuing in office would offer the country a sense of stability and continuity that is very important to the national psychology and that reassurance would allow the country to resume shopping in less time thus providing an important boost to the economy. (If I recall correctly, that is based on something "the Maestro" Alan Greenspan uttered once, but his language was so garbled I may have misinterpreted him.)

    Upon further reflection, I believe any Constitutional amendment should specify that the post is "First Lady" and must be occupied by a woman. This would be a subtle first step in regaining our moral balance, which appears somewhat wobbly at this point, and restoring our traditional values. Of course, we would have to have very bright legal scholars (sort of like John Roberts) write the language carefully so that we don't wind up with a ringer like Caitlyn Jenner or Renee Richards. (We may have to adopt the strict standards of the Olympic Games and even mandate tests to assure the requirement is satisfied.) The reason why this would be important is that women have truly earned a place at the table. Look at the current setup: we have a male President, a male Vice President and a female First Lady. But what if Barack Obama had been a switch hitter and instead of Michelle Obama we had Michael Obama? In that case, every important executive position would be filled by a male. An all male lineup would be intolerable in this day and age. No, it would be much better to reserve the position of First Lady to someone who not only is but can prove she is a woman.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    We may have to adopt the strict standards of the Olympic Games…

    …and the Selective Service System. Those poor boys taking puberty blockers will be shocked to learn they still have to register.

  59. @SPMoore8
    @Dirk Dagger

    @shk12344

    Let's put it this way: how many men run off to plastic surgeons to get a sack lift?

    I rest my case.

    Replies: @Grace Jones, @Reg Cæsar

    Let’s put it this way: how many men run off to plastic surgeons to get a sack lift?

    We need a follow-up to this classic book.

    “Scrotal Politics”

  60. @anon
    @Yngvar

    Serial rapists are often very charming - they do it as an aspect of sociopathy - a safer form of serial killing that's easier to get away with.

    Replies: @Yngvar

    Well, I wouldn’t know, so I’ll just have to trust You on that.

    What happened to poor Mr. Cosby was that some vengeful lady from his past decided to smear him for drama and possible profit. Some other women saw this and realized they had never been a ‘special’ or ‘exclusive’ bedding to him, so they felt used. And what’s the word for being used for another person’s pleasure? Yeah – Rape! And then they all piled on…
    It’s all rubbish. He screwed all of them fair and square.

  61. @tbraton
    @Jack D

    A couple of weeks back I watched a video of an interview black comedian Jimmy Walker had with Shepherd (?) Smith of Fox News re the Cosby matter. Walker impressed me by giving calm, rational, nonemotional, level-headed and apparently honest responses to Smith's questions. Walker had worked both with and for Cosby for many years in the past. His responses were very interesting. He said "everybody" was aware that Cosby had girls chasing him back in the day. He cited one case where a young attractive woman was hanging around the set, and he tried to hit on her. She informed him that she was involved with another performer, and, when Walker asked her "who?," she responded "Bill Cosby." Walker spoke with admiration of Cosby, calling him a "giant" in the field, but he was mystified by one thing: with all the women ready to throw themselves at him why it was necessary for Cosby to resort to drugs?

    Replies: @Lugash

    Possible explanations have been that he lost his virginity with an unconscious woman and the experience imprinted on him, or that he wanted anal sex in a time that it wasn’t common. Or he just gets off on women being helpless.

    • Replies: @Anonymous Nephew
    @Lugash

    Quaaludes (or Mandrax in the UK, known as 'Mandies') were a popular drug in the 70s and sometimes used in sexual encounters. I don't think its use necessarily means the taker is helpless.

    Ian Dury sang

    "I bought a lot of brandy
    When I was courting Sandy
    Took eight to make her randy
    And all I had was shandy
    Another thing with Sandy
    What often came in handy
    Was passing her a 'Mandy'
    She didn't half go bandy"

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Billericay_Dickie

    It's also a muscle relaxant so facilitates 'the sort of sex where such things are useful'.

    Replies: @5371, @Hare Krishna

  62. Or he just gets off on women being helpless.

    It’s like a kill but without the consequences.

  63. @22pp22
    @ATX Hipster

    Wind farms are what is really wrecking Scotland.

    Replies: @Anonymous Nephew

    Trump strongly opposed the building of wind farms (which ruined the view from his proposed new golf course).

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aberdeen_Bay_Wind_Farm#Objections_by_Donald_Trump

    “I want to see the ocean, I do not want to see windmills.”

    Salmond and co are indeed covering Scotland with windmills, including islands like Lewis and lovely peninsulas like Kintyre. Fortunately Arran is undefiled so the view from Turnberry’s still pretty good. It (as of 2006) was featured on a repeated BBC TV series (“Coast”) last night.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Anonymous Nephew

    Somebody needs to figure out how to make windmills less ugly.

    Replies: @Anonymous Nephew, @Charles Erwin Wilson

  64. @Lugash
    @tbraton

    Possible explanations have been that he lost his virginity with an unconscious woman and the experience imprinted on him, or that he wanted anal sex in a time that it wasn't common. Or he just gets off on women being helpless.

    Replies: @Anonymous Nephew

    Quaaludes (or Mandrax in the UK, known as ‘Mandies’) were a popular drug in the 70s and sometimes used in sexual encounters. I don’t think its use necessarily means the taker is helpless.

    Ian Dury sang

    “I bought a lot of brandy
    When I was courting Sandy
    Took eight to make her randy
    And all I had was shandy
    Another thing with Sandy
    What often came in handy
    Was passing her a ‘Mandy’
    She didn’t half go bandy”

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Billericay_Dickie

    It’s also a muscle relaxant so facilitates ‘the sort of sex where such things are useful’.

    • Replies: @5371
    @Anonymous Nephew

    [It’s also a muscle relaxant so facilitates ‘the sort of sex where such things are useful’.]

    Yes, I fear that's at the bottom of it.

    , @Hare Krishna
    @Anonymous Nephew

    Barry Manilow's "Mandy" was a love song to Quaaludes/Mandrax.

  65. She had a right to smoke in her own car, but supposedly not to refuse to get out of the car, although the trooper’s pretext of personal safety was pretty flimsy considering that the stop was as good as over by then.

    IANAL, but: the Supreme Idiots have ruled that cops may conduct a cursory search of your car for weapons in the course of a traffic stop, to ensure their own safety. The thinking being, cops are vulnerable to having their faces casually blown off by some arsehole while making a stop, and roads are communal property so there’s an interest in allowing cursory searches that flows from public safety concerns. Or, something along those lines, whatever. Point being, I’m under the impression that cops have the right to get you out of the car whenever they like, as long as the stop is legitimate, because cursory search. Or something.

  66. Okay, so that’s why IANAL:

    http://www.policechiefmagazine.org/magazine/index.cfm?fuseaction=display_arch&article_id=2305&issue_id=22011

    Going by that, it seems unwarranted searches are Constitutional only after the context of imminent arrest is established.

  67. But I did sleep at a Holiday Inn last night:

    This says SC has ruled that cops can control drivers & passengers during traffic stops:

    http://www.policeone.com/legal/articles/1287043-Supreme-Court-say-officers-can-control-passengers-on-traffic-stops/

    In an opinion written by Chief Justice William Rehnquist, the Court ruled that an officer making a traffic stop may order passengers to get out of the vehicle pending completion of the stop. Already, under a 1977 Supreme Court ruling (Pennsylvania v. Mimms, 434 U.S. 106), you had the right to arbitrarily order a driver out of a vehicle, in the interest of officer safety.

    The same “weighty” concern for your safety is present regarding passengers, the Court declared. “Indeed, the danger to an officer from a traffic stop is likely to be greater when there are passengers in addition to the driver in the stopped car.”

    Yes, orders to passengers do intrude on their personal liberty, the Court observed, but “as a practical matter, passengers are already stopped…so the additional intrusion upon them is minimal.”

    Thus the Court officially extended the principle of Mimms to include passengers as well as drivers.

  68. @Anonymous Nephew
    @22pp22

    Trump strongly opposed the building of wind farms (which ruined the view from his proposed new golf course).

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aberdeen_Bay_Wind_Farm#Objections_by_Donald_Trump

    "I want to see the ocean, I do not want to see windmills."

    Salmond and co are indeed covering Scotland with windmills, including islands like Lewis and lovely peninsulas like Kintyre. Fortunately Arran is undefiled so the view from Turnberry's still pretty good. It (as of 2006) was featured on a repeated BBC TV series ("Coast") last night.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    Somebody needs to figure out how to make windmills less ugly.

    • Replies: @Anonymous Nephew
    @Steve Sailer

    They're not that ugly - a single one can be rather graceful with its slender blades.

    But they are HUGE, and they tend to come in batches of a dozen or so. You can see them thirty or more miles away. And they kill seabirds. And they don't work in a dead frost.

    http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lqi9anORDE1qjw2is.jpg

    (it may be that those young people who've never known a different landscape won't mind them - just like I was impressed with the ones outside SF and featured in Rain Man)

    Replies: @ATX Hipster

    , @Charles Erwin Wilson
    @Steve Sailer

    Peter Max?

  69. @e
    @Jack D

    "There are men who are plausibly attractive into their ’60s, but Mother Nature really does a number on women after menopause."


    Come, come. You sound like a man in denial.

    Men sag badly. Take a look at the musculature of most men, even those not considered overweight, in their 60s. Men sag just as women do: their biceps, their chests, their chins, the ears of many white men grow very large and sag, their scrotum... yes, man, you guys DO sag just as we women do.

    In fact, I'd say most American women in their 50s and 60s look better than most men of the same age.

    What the heck do you think Cosby has looked like for the last 25 years?

    Replies: @SPMoore8, @27 year old

    “In fact, I’d say most American women in their 50s and 60s look better than most men of the same age.”

    HA…………. hahahahahahahahahaha

    hahahahahahaha

    please leave

    • Replies: @Anonymous Nephew
    @27 year old

    I didn't think they looked that bad for their age, but then I'm older than you. I noticed they were all photographed in virginal white (rather than, say, scarlet).

  70. @Steve Sailer
    @Anonymous Nephew

    Somebody needs to figure out how to make windmills less ugly.

    Replies: @Anonymous Nephew, @Charles Erwin Wilson

    They’re not that ugly – a single one can be rather graceful with its slender blades.

    But they are HUGE, and they tend to come in batches of a dozen or so. You can see them thirty or more miles away. And they kill seabirds. And they don’t work in a dead frost.

    (it may be that those young people who’ve never known a different landscape won’t mind them – just like I was impressed with the ones outside SF and featured in Rain Man)

    • Replies: @ATX Hipster
    @Anonymous Nephew

    I wonder if they could be engineered to look more like picturesque pre-industrial windmills without losing too much energy generation capability.

    Ezra Levant's Ethical Oil talks about the dilemma environmentalists face in the tradeoff between wind energy and wiping out flocks of birds.

  71. @27 year old
    @e

    "In fact, I’d say most American women in their 50s and 60s look better than most men of the same age."


    HA............. hahahahahahahahahaha




    hahahahahahaha




    please leave

    Replies: @Anonymous Nephew

    I didn’t think they looked that bad for their age, but then I’m older than you. I noticed they were all photographed in virginal white (rather than, say, scarlet).

  72. I don’t think enough credence is being given to Trump’s having wisely tapped into the vast pool of anger that Americans currently have towards the press.
    __________

    For “Officer Safety” reasons, authorities can and will search any unlocked areas of your vehicle, without warrant or probable cause. It is, however, extremely difficult for them to prosecute over anything they may find during said search.
    __________

    Wind turbines are VERY loud. And they occasionally explode, due to the fact that the tips of the blades are traveling at several hundred miles per hour.

  73. Re: Cosby
    It is said that narcissists don’t have sex, they use other people’s bodies to masturbate with. Their being unconscious would certainly minimize any unwanted intrusions on their part.

  74. @Jack D
    OT - The Eye of Sauron has now turned to Prairie View, Texas :

    "Texas County’s Racial Past Is Seen as Prelude to Sandra Bland’s Death"

    http://www.nytimes.com/2015/07/27/us/racial-divide-persists-in-texas-county-where-sandra-bland-died.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&module=second-column-region&region=top-news&WT.nav=top-news&_r=0

    Prairie View was so racist in the past that their government funded a college for black people there 140 years ago, but never mind. In other countries with oppressed minorities, the government funds colleges for them also - there is the University of Gypsies in Romania, Rohingya U. in Burma, etc.

    Apparently, white people harm black bodies even when said black bodies string themselves up - a virtual lynching for a virtual age.

    If you listen to the tape, the traffic stop goes reasonably well until the trooper asks Bland to put out her cigarette and she refuses. You would think by now that all black parents have had The Talk with their kids and that part of the Talk is that if a cop makes a reasonable request that you do not invite trouble on your head by disobeying him. Failing to do so displays a lack of common sense. Maybe Sandra Bland wasn't the sharpest tack in the box, but I think this goes beyond that - there is some sort of willful desire to push the limits to see how much you can get away with due to your "racial immunity" and sometimes the racial immunity fails and you reap the whirlwind. All she needed to do was put out the cigarette and 5 minutes later she would have been on her way but she couldn't bring herself to do that much.

    Replies: @candid_observer, @Grace Jones, @Kevin O'Keeffe

    “Maybe Sandra Bland wasn’t the sharpest tack in the box, but I think this goes beyond that – there is some sort of willful desire to push the limits to see how much you can get away with due to your ‘racial immunity’ and sometimes the racial immunity fails and you reap the whirlwind.”

    I think this observation is apt to be entirely correct.

  75. @Maj. Kong
    @Buzz Mohawk

    Trump is the only GOP candidate that can credibly win more than a narrow victory. The best the rest of the GOP can hope for is a 2004 repeat, plus PA and WI if they are lucky.

    Economic populism could get the Trump-GOP the whole Midwest, but at the cost of irking the donor class.

    Replies: @Kevin O'Keeffe

    “Trump is the only GOP candidate that can credibly win more than a narrow victory. The best the rest of the GOP can hope for is a 2004 repeat, plus PA and WI if they are lucky.”

    Yes, this is exactly correct. On the Democratic side, it is is also true, albeit with Jim Webb being the candidate who could (not necessarily would, but certainly could), redraw the map, if he were to be nominated. All the rest of the candidates (in both parties), are just trying to replay the last few elections, for some marginal partisan advantage.

  76. @Anonymous Nephew
    @Lugash

    Quaaludes (or Mandrax in the UK, known as 'Mandies') were a popular drug in the 70s and sometimes used in sexual encounters. I don't think its use necessarily means the taker is helpless.

    Ian Dury sang

    "I bought a lot of brandy
    When I was courting Sandy
    Took eight to make her randy
    And all I had was shandy
    Another thing with Sandy
    What often came in handy
    Was passing her a 'Mandy'
    She didn't half go bandy"

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Billericay_Dickie

    It's also a muscle relaxant so facilitates 'the sort of sex where such things are useful'.

    Replies: @5371, @Hare Krishna

    [It’s also a muscle relaxant so facilitates ‘the sort of sex where such things are useful’.]

    Yes, I fear that’s at the bottom of it.

  77. @Anonymous Nephew
    @Steve Sailer

    They're not that ugly - a single one can be rather graceful with its slender blades.

    But they are HUGE, and they tend to come in batches of a dozen or so. You can see them thirty or more miles away. And they kill seabirds. And they don't work in a dead frost.

    http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lqi9anORDE1qjw2is.jpg

    (it may be that those young people who've never known a different landscape won't mind them - just like I was impressed with the ones outside SF and featured in Rain Man)

    Replies: @ATX Hipster

    I wonder if they could be engineered to look more like picturesque pre-industrial windmills without losing too much energy generation capability.

    Ezra Levant’s Ethical Oil talks about the dilemma environmentalists face in the tradeoff between wind energy and wiping out flocks of birds.

  78. @Grace Jones
    @Jack D

    She had a right to smoke in her own car, but supposedly not to refuse to get out of the car, although the trooper's pretext of personal safety was pretty flimsy considering that the stop was as good as over by then.

    Replies: @Jack D

    And I have the right to call you a dumb bitch, but I don’t do it because I try to use courtesy and common sense in my daily interactions with strangers, regardless of how far the Constitution allows me to push things. When an armed police officer politely requests you to put out your cigarette, the correct response is “Yes, officer”. You are not required to exercise your Constitutional rights to the fullest extent in every possible situation. Discretion is the better part of valor.

    • Replies: @SPMoore8
    @Jack D

    The entire traffic stop was BS, the woman was confrontative, and the police officer took it personally and decided to lay some authoriteh on her. It's that simple.

    The officer also had no business even requesting her to put out her cigarette. If I got stopped, I'd hand over my license and registration. If he wanted anything else, I would ask why, and make a mental note of his badge number.

    Citizens have rights, too.

  79. @Mr. Anon
    "Analogously, when Trump built a 90 story hotel on the north bank of the Chicago River, he put the main restaurant not at the top, but on the 16th floor. Why? Because the view from supertall buildings is more aerial than elegant. In contrast, the sensational 1920s Art Deco skyscrapers lining the Chicago River top out at 15 to 30 stories, so dining at eye level with their finials is a glorious experience."

    Or, post 911, there might not be that many customers for a restaurant like Windows on the World. At least on the 16th floor, you might get out alive.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    Or, post 911, there might not be that many customers for a restaurant like Windows on the World. At least on the 16th floor, you might get out alive.

    Windows on the World proved to be a most prophetic name.

  80. @Jack D
    @Grace Jones

    And I have the right to call you a dumb bitch, but I don't do it because I try to use courtesy and common sense in my daily interactions with strangers, regardless of how far the Constitution allows me to push things. When an armed police officer politely requests you to put out your cigarette, the correct response is "Yes, officer". You are not required to exercise your Constitutional rights to the fullest extent in every possible situation. Discretion is the better part of valor.

    Replies: @SPMoore8

    The entire traffic stop was BS, the woman was confrontative, and the police officer took it personally and decided to lay some authoriteh on her. It’s that simple.

    The officer also had no business even requesting her to put out her cigarette. If I got stopped, I’d hand over my license and registration. If he wanted anything else, I would ask why, and make a mental note of his badge number.

    Citizens have rights, too.

  81. @Anonymous Nephew
    @Lugash

    Quaaludes (or Mandrax in the UK, known as 'Mandies') were a popular drug in the 70s and sometimes used in sexual encounters. I don't think its use necessarily means the taker is helpless.

    Ian Dury sang

    "I bought a lot of brandy
    When I was courting Sandy
    Took eight to make her randy
    And all I had was shandy
    Another thing with Sandy
    What often came in handy
    Was passing her a 'Mandy'
    She didn't half go bandy"

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Billericay_Dickie

    It's also a muscle relaxant so facilitates 'the sort of sex where such things are useful'.

    Replies: @5371, @Hare Krishna

    Barry Manilow’s “Mandy” was a love song to Quaaludes/Mandrax.

  82. @Steve Sailer
    @Anonymous Nephew

    Somebody needs to figure out how to make windmills less ugly.

    Replies: @Anonymous Nephew, @Charles Erwin Wilson

    Peter Max?

  83. anon • Disclaimer says:

    If the media reported these things honestly they’d show how many of the traffic stops that go bad start off with a minor confrontational attitude. The police pick up on the attitude and the fight hormones start pumping automatically.

    If the media told the truth about black youth crime then cops being excessively hyped up in these situations would make perfect sense.

    • Replies: @anon
    @anon

    ps I'm not arguing they're not excessively hyped up; they clearly are. I'm just pointing out that if the media told the whole story the impression would be very different.

    It's like when you see eight cops charge a guy; they do that so he can't pull a weapon. Nine times out of ten he might not have a weapon and it's excessive force but one time out of ten he does have a weapon and if the cops hadn't bull dozed him one of them would have got it.

    In a nut shell the police need to be 3/4 as brutal as the criminals they deal with so if you want to improve the police then you need to improve the criminals.

  84. @BurplesonAFB
    @International Jew

    13 from LAX

    Replies: @International Jew

    How do you know I’m not a giant tortoise living in the Galapagos Islands?

  85. anon • Disclaimer says:
    @anon
    If the media reported these things honestly they'd show how many of the traffic stops that go bad start off with a minor confrontational attitude. The police pick up on the attitude and the fight hormones start pumping automatically.

    If the media told the truth about black youth crime then cops being excessively hyped up in these situations would make perfect sense.

    Replies: @anon

    ps I’m not arguing they’re not excessively hyped up; they clearly are. I’m just pointing out that if the media told the whole story the impression would be very different.

    It’s like when you see eight cops charge a guy; they do that so he can’t pull a weapon. Nine times out of ten he might not have a weapon and it’s excessive force but one time out of ten he does have a weapon and if the cops hadn’t bull dozed him one of them would have got it.

    In a nut shell the police need to be 3/4 as brutal as the criminals they deal with so if you want to improve the police then you need to improve the criminals.

  86. @Anonymous
    As a woman, I have to say it's amazing Greg Norman was such a great driver of the ball when he had no buns. That's almost a chinese ass.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    We have a winner!

    Best comment on this thread.

    Hands down.

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