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In his old age, California governor Jerry Brown is turning his back on his 1970s “Era of Limits” rhetoric and trying to belatedly match his father Pat Brown as a titanic builder.

In particular, Jerry wants to complete his dad’s California water project by building water tunnels under the Sacramento River delta and he wants to build a high speed rail line from northern to southern California.

However, Jerry is having trouble both with getting the money and with overcoming the thicket of environmental and other regulations that have grown up since his dad’s day.

If I were Donald Trump, I wouldn’t volunteer federal taxpayer money to help California, which didn’t vote for him. But I would ask Gov. Brown to detail federal legislation and regulations that are getting in his way.

I don’t know that federal red tape is getting in Brown’s way: California is quite good at generating its own.

But I am reminded of a 2009 incident involving rail transit in Los Angeles that Bill Clinton highlighted in his 2011 book Back to Work as an abusive intrusion of federal authority in the Golden State. I wrote in VDARE in 2011 in my review of the former President’s book:

Similarly, Clinton twice brings up a bizarre but obscure recent incident in which the city of Los Angeles asked for bids for new high speed trains from European manufacturers. One offered to build a plant in Los Angeles and employ Los Angelenos, while the other intended to import the rail cars from abroad. [“Rail car bid in doubt, firm makes new offer,” by Maeve Reston, LA Times, May 28, 2009] But, to Clinton’s incredulity:

“… the federal government told Los Angeles that since federal money would pay for the fast trains, the very different impacts on the local economy of the two proposals could not be considered in awarding the bid! … This is nuts.”

Indeed.

 
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  1. This kind of Federal Reg can be changed by Presidential directive to the correct (idiot) regulation writers.
    however
    If a change in law is needed, DJ Trump could run through it Congress in about ten days via unanimous voice vote, then sign it.
    Why hasn’t Obama or anyone done this before? Because Washington DC is a boom town so “doing deals” and making money is priority number one! For everyone from the elected hacks, lobbyists to the bureaucrats to the waiters in the elite restaurants. Every elite restaurant with branches in NY, Vegas, San Fransisco, etc now opens in Washington DC too. For the exposure if nothing else.

    Look up Jose Andreas (immigrant fr Spain) who is currently trying (he bet wrong!) to jam The Donald on not opening his new restaurant in the new Trump Tower in DC.

    Donald Trump, José Andrés and the death of a grand …
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/digger/wp/2016/04/29/donald…
    Oct 30, 2016 · … the Trump International Hotel, Washington, … saying that “Jose Andres’ success is built on an open-hearted call to the world to say ‘Welcome!

    Donald Trump and chef Jose Andres lawyers square off in …
    http://www.politico.com/story/2016/06/trump-jose-andres-restaurant-224372
    A lawyer for Donald Trump tried to turn the tables on prominent Washington chef Jose Andres Wednesday, arguing that it was Andres’ “passionate” political views that …

    • Replies: @bored identity
    @Clyde




    Benitez said the proposed restaurant would have struggled to get enough diners and staff to survive. Andres' existing Spanish restaurants in Washington have staff that is 71 percent Latino and between 11 and 15 percent of the diners are Latino, she said. Many of the other workers and customers are "Hispanophiles," she added.

     

    Do we really want to accept Trump's dark vision for the US restaurant industry ?


    If we let this monster-in chief have it his way, don't be surprised if carrots will be left uncut, burgers unflipped, and milkshakes unchurned.

    Actually, forgot the part about carrots- they would already be rotten, because Felipe got deported.

    *******************************************************************************************************************************************************************

    Now, after I paid homage to Tiny Duck, let's have a serious conversation;

    The highest paid kitchen employee in a trendy $$$-wallet emptying place that is run by a regional celebrity chef" in the area I live is a Cuban who gets paid $20/hr.

    Mexican dishwashers make $8 per hour, while your average prep guy from Guatemala starts and mostly ends at $9.

    Meanwhile, a regional culinary hub (think of a Phoenix University guberment-loans- to-students type scheme) charges gullible Emeril wanabees some 20 grand a year....

    Mr. Trump, tear down this deep fryer !
  2. Governments are in the ‘business’ of making laws, rules, and regulations. Whether the laws, rules, and regulations are appropriate for a given situation, or even make sense, is of no great concern for the lawmakers for they, the lawmakers, the rulemakers, and the regulationsmakers are usually above and/or beyond the scope of the laws, rules, and regulations that they endorse for the rest of us.

    Legislators by their very natures are encouraged to propose and enact laws which are their only justification for being. They must do something!

    • Replies: @bomag
    @Hubbub


    Governments are in the ‘business’ of making laws...
     
    Very much so.

    Under Obama, you could see and smell the regulators coming around and finding ways to expand their empire, e.g. the EPA finding that any surface that ever is covered with water qualifies for their oversight.

    One blessing of Trump would be to rein in this overreach.
    , @Mr. Anon
    @Hubbub

    "Legislators by their very natures are encouraged to propose and enact laws which are their only justification for being. They must do something!"

    Yes, I am damned-near infuriated when people criticize Congress for "not doing anything". Not doing anything is what I want them to do most of the time. I would be happy to pay them more the less they legislate. I wouldn't want a doctor who would recommend brain surgery to cure a headache.

    , @ganderson
    @Hubbub

    I always chuckle (or whistle past the graveyard) when someone complains about Congress not being able to "get things done". I'd prefer they NOT get things done. That doesn't address the fact that Sir Humphrey Appleby and his cronies really run the place, but it's a start.

  3. “… the federal government told Los Angeles that since federal money would pay for the fast trains, the very different impacts on the local economy of the two proposals could not be considered in awarding the bid! … This is nuts.”

    Not so nuts when you consider big rail-locomotive manufacturers like GE and Caterpillar (through EMD) have essentially captured the regulators and legislators.

  4. If it’s a sensible plan coming from California in appeal for federal funding Republicans might do well to support it. The traditional party of Noblesse Oblige now has an opportunity to distinguish itself by governing without bias on behalf of all Americans – rather than sliding into the “Who? Whom?” style of governing that accompanies dim & divisive identity politics. If there be any appetite for revenge, after a tough campaign full of personal attacks, it seems to me that the sweetest, most enduring revenge, consistent with a general good will, would consist of governing well – thereby diminishing all those severe attacks on character.

  5. Maybe he can get Linda Ronstadt to sing again to her old boyfriend:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-QmdzBYDWA&list=RDU-QmdzBYDWA#t=82

    • Replies: @Clyde
    @Buzz Mohawk

    Can you believe the brain dead commentary at the end of that Linda Ronstadt clip? It had me laughing. A different era. MAGA or bust!

    , @Ripple Earthdevil
    @Buzz Mohawk

    Poor Linda has Parkinson's Disease and can no longer sing.

    , @ganderson
    @Buzz Mohawk

    Q: Why can't Linda Ronstadt go more that 40 mph?
    A: Cuz she has a governor on her!

    Sad that she can no longer sing. She made a lot of good music.

  6. If Monica & Iraq hadn’t blown away theirs careers & legacies; Bill & Blair would have gone down as one of the most transformative centre-left leaders of the late 20th centuries..

    • Replies: @Opinionator
    @Zachary Latif

    Um, what about mass immigration and 9/11?

    Bill did nothing to change the course of the former. (Illegal immigration to the United States in fact boomed under his administration.)

    With respect to 9/11, while it happened after he left office, he let Zionists take control of his foreign policy and did little to address Arab grievances against the United States. In particular, he let Zionist conquest of Palestine intensify. These conditions caused the blowback of 9/11.

    Replies: @Maj. Kong

  7. @Hubbub
    Governments are in the 'business' of making laws, rules, and regulations. Whether the laws, rules, and regulations are appropriate for a given situation, or even make sense, is of no great concern for the lawmakers for they, the lawmakers, the rulemakers, and the regulationsmakers are usually above and/or beyond the scope of the laws, rules, and regulations that they endorse for the rest of us.

    Legislators by their very natures are encouraged to propose and enact laws which are their only justification for being. They must do something!

    Replies: @bomag, @Mr. Anon, @ganderson

    Governments are in the ‘business’ of making laws…

    Very much so.

    Under Obama, you could see and smell the regulators coming around and finding ways to expand their empire, e.g. the EPA finding that any surface that ever is covered with water qualifies for their oversight.

    One blessing of Trump would be to rein in this overreach.

  8. On the contrary, the incident in the gray box shows how spending fed money in a state gives the fed gov some strings to pull. Which gangster said it, “Keep your friends close, but your enemies closer”?

  9. OT
    The Bubble – SNL
    SNL fake commercial about a domed city for SJW’s to live in to escape Trump’s America. City shown to have an absence of Blacks, Muslims, and Mexicans. Quote the Bubble is a diverse community unquote.

    I for one support the idea of domed prison cities to confine SJW’s in. Only they would not be 100% White and Asian as depicted. All the deported illegals would go there. All the Muslims immigrating to America would be shunted there. In addition, all section 8 housing would be in the domes.

    • Replies: @Jefferson
    @Hippopotamusdrome

    "City shown to have an absence of Blacks,"

    Are you blind? There is an extremely obvious Black woman in that city bubble, SNL actress Sasheer Zamata. She makes Valerie Jarrett look like a White woman in comparison.

    , @anonymous
    @Hippopotamusdrome

    It's actually not that crazy an idea, it's called states rights.

    , @Chrisnonymous
    @Hippopotamusdrome

    Now we know the backstory to Logan's Run.

    , @SFG
    @Hippopotamusdrome

    They've got a well-spoken black lady in the commercial, who's unenthused about the 'race-blind' ideology her white cohort is spouting. They actually got the divisions in liberalism down quite well. The gag is that a one-bedroom is over a million...which also fits quite well!

  10. If I were Donald Trump, I wouldn’t volunteer federal taxpayer money to help California, which didn’t vote for hi

    m.

    Franklin Roosevelt lavished money on parts of the country which normally wouldn’t vote for him. He won every election for the rest of his life.

  11. Trump could help California clear up its fiscal picture by deporting the million or more illegals who are absorbing a large portion of state resources.

    How much does it cost to host all the illegals in California alone? How much does it cost in healthcare, education, etc?

    • Replies: @Lucas McCrudy
    @Yak-15

    only a million illegals in Cali? try 3x times that number, at least.

  12. It’s a path to renewed state civil war if they try to build that tunnel under the Delta, Steve. Up here in the north, citizens have been met with petitions of “No” in front of supermarkets everywhere for almost two years now regarding the tunnel. Remember, San Joaquin Valley farmers have watched their fields dry up because of the tiny Delta smelt. The enviros are pretty noisy people up here and the tunnel seems pretty crazy.

    At the very least, if Brown pushes, the Dem party that has a stronghold on the state might start showing not fissures but huge cracks. Of course, never let it be said the GOP in this state knows how to take advantage of anything. It would take a charismatic figure like a Trump to revitalize it. Our last attempt with Arnold left us kaput. Arnold was only interested in being liked and had no stomach for political infighting.

    • Replies: @Lot
    @e

    The Central Valley is the loudest and most consistent cartel favoring mass migration of unskilled labor. They are also the most blatant users of illegal labor. It is a culture of lawlessness there, strongly supported by both the local GOP (which is still strong there) and the local Democrats (who are the most conservative in the state because they are all on the big AG payroll).

    Replies: @Bill Jones

    , @Olorin
    @e

    What Lot said.

    SJV farmers in particular get zero of my pity. Not only have they mass imported braceros and their anchor relations galore, and all the problems that come with that, they too suck up many millions in USDA and other ag-related welfare. I.e., my tax dollars. For producing comestibles I don't consume and that only contribute to further population explosion. Then they turn around and vote Democrat.

    They are agents of Big Ag/Big Pharma and the debt-shackles FIRE economy. I feel about them the way Mencken felt about farmers in general (see: "The Husbandman").

    And just a small detail: according to many geological surveys of the Central Valley I've seen, a bunch of their flippin' fields are SUPPOSED to be dry.

    What's the one thing we've learned from every last irrigation-based lugal's-real-estate civilization in the history of ever? IT DOESN'T LAST. Because the Egyptian or Sumerian model, like Africans or Mesopotamian Muslims today, doesn't necessarily transfer well to other parts of the world. Even in its centers of origin it didn't last. Read Sumerian lamentation tablets sometime--a huge portion of them are about famine when the water fails.

    Kicking the can of famine or salinization or population explosion or whatever down the road, finding more wet to pipe in, is the strategy of politicians and accountants, and the priests who like chaos they can get paid to pretend to save people from.

    I reject our being all HBD/biology/population genetics snooty and precise about race...but then turning into morons when geological, hydrological, soil, and chemical systems--and forward thinking--are at issue. Or that we can claim to hate globos when they try to reengineer genomes or demographics for profit...but have no problem with them doing that to soil and water.

    It's blood and soil. Genes and place. Not just one or the other. Both.

    Replies: @Ed

  13. OT – http://nypost.com/2016/11/20/melania-and-barron-trump-wont-be-moving-to-the-white-house/

    I am sick and tired of First Ladies (from both Parties) pushing their agenda or cause. If this turns out to be true and Melania stays in NYC to be a good mother to Baron, this will make me happier than the wall being built, illegals being deported, the troops coming home. etc.

    OK, that’s an exaggeration. But it will be a welcome change.

    • Replies: @anon
    @Milo Minderbinder

    If I were Melania, I would be at least a little bit concerned. She shouldn't forget she is wife#3. Out of sight is out mind. It is very easy for Trump to get a new hottie from east. Just learn from Bill and Monica of the 90's. It is not for nothing there is a saying History repeats itself.

    , @anonymous
    @Milo Minderbinder

    I'd put this story in the same bin as the "Trump wants to split his time between NYC and DC" stories.

    Uninformed idiot speculation from clueless pundits.

    , @Chrisnonymous
    @Milo Minderbinder

    Disagree.

    If that doesn't actually indicate a rift in the First Family, it looks like one. Earlier, I noted that when Trump kissed Melania after his acceptance speech, she looked like she accepted it only pro forma.

    Of course, I could see how Melania might want be feeling like "f--- you" after the rape threats, fashion designers attacking her, etc.

    Anyhow, This is presenting more opportunities for scandal or at least accusations. Plus, they have to close 2 lanes of traffic on 5th Avenue!!

    , @27 year old
    @Milo Minderbinder

    I agree, but it's funny that Michelle Obama wanted to do the same thing, and we shat on her for it.

    , @Lagertha
    @Milo Minderbinder

    As a European woman, and an American woman, I concur. Melania, letting her son continue in his school and sports & activities with his peers, uninterrupted, by staying in Trump Tower ( I love the "Tower" thing!) is a "GOOD THING" (a la' Martha S). Melania would really, really usher in a new modern mother by signaling: "I must make sure my child's life is steady first and foremost, while his father resumes the Presidency. And, then, I will take the jet to DC to join my husband, the President, on the weekends, for any state dinners and meetings with people representing our national & international community." I mean, HRC said. "it takes a village to raise a child." Also, Jackie O said, " If you bungle your children, I don't think whatever else you do matters very much." I am a fan of Melania! Designers are all waiting like crazy to dress her! - a model for Chrissakes!

    Replies: @Random Dude on the Internet

  14. @Buzz Mohawk
    Maybe he can get Linda Ronstadt to sing again to her old boyfriend:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-QmdzBYDWA&list=RDU-QmdzBYDWA#t=82

    Replies: @Clyde, @Ripple Earthdevil, @ganderson

    Can you believe the brain dead commentary at the end of that Linda Ronstadt clip? It had me laughing. A different era. MAGA or bust!

  15. Having spent some time recently working on domestic security matters, that should never have come up, I think Trump will have two challenges in trying to crack the regulatory stranglehold. Every regulation has behind it an army of bureaucrats who crafted it. They crafted it in such a way that would signal their importance to the other bureaucrats. These people work in massive human ant forms. Distinguishing their status within the ant farm is pretty much their life work.

    More important, each regulation has an army of private contractors who profit from interpreting and enforcing these regs. Recently, I had to navigate through some security regs. On one conference call, I had ten people and no two of them could agree on more than one issue. It was fairly clear that they relished this. The fact that all of them were foreign born added a British Empire vibe to it for me.

    Washington is a massive jobs program. The fact that anything gets done is mostly due to chance. Preventing this massive machine from grinding up the local economy is no small task.

  16. Silicon Valley offers an interesting opportunity for a new nationalism in economics.

    Trump could push hard to protect, and, frankly, exploit for the American public in particular, the areas of the global economy in which the US enjoys a hegemony.

    A lot of this could be justified intellectually by the work of Paul Krugman, of all people. He won the Nobel Prize mostly for work demonstrating what are in effect powerful network effects in various segments of the economy. He explained why it made sense for, say, the major competitors in, say, the garment industry to locate in the same small geographical area.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Business_cluster

    There are obviously a number of such clusters which exist in the US, most notably Silicon Valley, but also, I think, in biotechnology, and, of course, in Hollywood.

    Simultaneously protecting these industries and demanding that they employ Americans in many functions, such as manufacturing, can go a considerable distance in improving the lot of American workers across the board. Because of the powerful network effects that keep these geographical clusters intact, they can readily be squeezed to do good for all Americans.

    As with other monopolies, they can’t be pushed too far. Otherwise, the incentive to create a new dominant cluster elsewhere becomes great enough to overcome the benefits of the network effects. But, as with other monopolies, this can be vigilantly tracked so that the monopoly isn’t broken.

    Monopolies built on network effects are certainly tolerated nowadays for the sake of the private owners who exploit them.

    Why shouldn’t monopoly clusters be exploited for the sake of the American people?

    • Replies: @Busby
    @candid_observer

    Reduce the number of H1B visas by 50% and then auction them off. Then we will see who really values imported talent.

    Replies: @Peripatetic commenter, @Fredrik, @Opinionator, @Jim Don Bob

    , @Sunbeam
    @candid_observer

    Krugman won the Nobel for that? (Yeah, I know the Economics one isn't a "real" Nobel prize)

    Geez I've had numerous barroom conversations over the years (going back to the 80's) about things just like that. God only knows what has been discussed in college dorms when the bong got passed around.

    And if you want to go academic, it really doesn't seem like anything more than a pedestrian rehash of what Jane Jacobs had to say (no idea on her politics, but if you are interested in the topic of why this place took off versus that other equally appropriate area, as well as some discussion of the value of Mercantilism, well she's worth reading).

  17. @Zachary Latif
    If Monica & Iraq hadn't blown away theirs careers & legacies; Bill & Blair would have gone down as one of the most transformative centre-left leaders of the late 20th centuries..

    Replies: @Opinionator

    Um, what about mass immigration and 9/11?

    Bill did nothing to change the course of the former. (Illegal immigration to the United States in fact boomed under his administration.)

    With respect to 9/11, while it happened after he left office, he let Zionists take control of his foreign policy and did little to address Arab grievances against the United States. In particular, he let Zionist conquest of Palestine intensify. These conditions caused the blowback of 9/11.

    • Replies: @Maj. Kong
    @Opinionator

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hijackers_in_the_September_11_attacks

    You might have a case that Israel provided a direct motivation to the Lebanese hijacker, but most of the hijackers and planners were products of wealthy Gulf Arab states.

    Clinton nearly achieved a peace deal, unless you are speaking from the Hamas point of view.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2000_Camp_David_Summit

    Replies: @Opinionator

  18. @Buzz Mohawk
    Maybe he can get Linda Ronstadt to sing again to her old boyfriend:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-QmdzBYDWA&list=RDU-QmdzBYDWA#t=82

    Replies: @Clyde, @Ripple Earthdevil, @ganderson

    Poor Linda has Parkinson’s Disease and can no longer sing.

  19. “If I were Donald Trump, I wouldn’t volunteer federal taxpayer money to help California, which didn’t vote for him. But I would ask Gov. Brown to detail federal legislation and regulations that are getting in his way.”

    An idea: Trump should propose a straight quid pro quo: Trump will award all the federal money that Governor Brown seeks and then some for his infrastructure projects, and in return…Governor Brown will totally end sanctuary cities status for LA, SF, etc. as well as start helping ICE deport illegals. In other words, the Governor helps President Trump with curtailing immigration, and in return Gov. Brown gets his CA projects built the way he wants them.

    That’s actually a pretty good deal, Steve, and for both sides. Trump would get double from the deal–curtailing immigration (even making some leave CA,) and of course infrastructure projects being built, which Trump is solidly behind.

    Also, the Governor would have to agree to have Trump start to build the wall across CA border as well, which of course provides more CA residents jobs.

    For CA, Trump’s art of the deal should be: ‘You want your infrastructure projects, and so do I. I also want immigration under control. You agree to start enforcing the laws, allow ICE to start deporting illegals, and of course end sanctuary city status for CA’s cities, you get what you want and so do I, and everyone’s happy.’

    A win win all around.

    • Replies: @EriK
    @Yojimbo/Zatoichi

    Trump has the leverage, not Jerry. You seem to misunderstand this point, unless you know something I don't.

  20. Most unmarried people in America could be more economically productive and contribute more to society and to the economy if they could easily participate in the economy of Palo Alto. There are tremendous network effects of living near the smart and ambitious. Best thing Trump could do to help all of America is to immediately remove all zoning in East Palo Alto. This would set off the mother of all rental apartment construction booms, with two to three million rental apartment units built in East Palo Alto (think a miniature Hong Kong) Not only would this create a spectacular number of construction jobs, but the completed apartments would allow underemployed people from all over America to inexpensively live within walking distance of the incredible job machine that is Palo Alto

    • Replies: @antipater_1
    @Wencil

    How is Trump going to remove California zoning laws? California has to do that.
    Also, Palo Alto isn't much of a jobs machine either. The Silicon Valley tech companies have small and often quite non-American work forces.

    Replies: @Alfa158

    , @Lot
    @Wencil

    Sounds good to me.

    , @eah
    @Wencil

    (think a miniature Hong Kong)

    Or a miniature Bangalore -- because as experience observing what happens to new apartment buildings in the general area shows, that's who'd be living there -- with the obligatory low-income set-aside units fully occupied by underclass Hispanics.

    So thanks but no thanks.

  21. O/T: I read in the NYT Michelle Rhee met with Trump and is being considered for a job. What do you make of this?

    • Replies: @Lot
    @FX Enderby

    I think Rhee would maximally annoy the hard left, which hates her.

    However, why needlessly provoke teacher unions? He should either appoint or just call up for suggestions Betsy DeVos:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Betsy_DeVos

    Replies: @Jefferson, @snorlax

  22. O/T: I deeply appreciate Steve’s work and that of several other analysts looking at race and voting patterns. However, if you’re in the middle of a yuge Trump rally, what really gets to the core is looking around to see how many look like you. Likewise at a political rally featuring rock stars (plus Hillary).

    On that count, does anyone know what percentage of Trump voters were white? I understand it’s around 90%, but I’d like to know the exact number. Similarly, I’d like to know the number for Hillary voters, which I understand was around 45%. And ideally, I’d like to know these White numbers exclusive of Jews and other non-White Caucasians.

    • Replies: @NOTA
    @Jack Highlands

    There is exit poll data that gives some of that information, but given that polls weren't all that accurate before the election, you can imagine exit polls also being off.

    , @SFG
    @Jack Highlands

    Trump got 58% of white votes, 8% of black votes, and 29% of Hispanics and Asians.

    We don't have turnout numbers for 2016 yet, but working with 2012 numbers (and I agree, they may be different), we have about 98M white voters, 18M black voters, 11M Hispanic voters, and 4M Asian voters.

    So .58*98M=57M white Trump voters
    .08*18M=1.4M black Trump voters
    .29*11M=3.1 M Hispanic Trump voters
    .29*4M=1.2M Asian Trump voters
    So about 57/63=90% of Trump voters are white working with 2012 numbers.

    Trump apparently got about 62M popular votes, so odds are turnout didn't differ that much (though it might differ by race.)

    I'm having trouble finding numbers on exactly how many Jews voted, though in past elections about 85% of Jews voted compared to 54% of other Americans in 2012. So assume Jews compose about 4.5% of the American electorate (about one and a half times their representation in the population) of about 125M, or about 5.5M votes, 0.5M short of allowing people here to make tasteless jokes. 21% voted for Trump, so Trump got about 1M kosher votes. So if you exclude Jews about 89% of Trump voters are gentile whites.

    Don't ask me about Armenians or Arabs, I doubt it makes much difference. Nine out of ten Trump voters are white, and I doubt that will change much when the final turnout numbers come in.

    Replies: @27 year old

  23. @Jack Highlands
    O/T: I deeply appreciate Steve’s work and that of several other analysts looking at race and voting patterns. However, if you’re in the middle of a yuge Trump rally, what really gets to the core is looking around to see how many look like you. Likewise at a political rally featuring rock stars (plus Hillary).

    On that count, does anyone know what percentage of Trump voters were white? I understand it’s around 90%, but I’d like to know the exact number. Similarly, I’d like to know the number for Hillary voters, which I understand was around 45%. And ideally, I’d like to know these White numbers exclusive of Jews and other non-White Caucasians.

    Replies: @NOTA, @SFG

    There is exit poll data that gives some of that information, but given that polls weren’t all that accurate before the election, you can imagine exit polls also being off.

  24. “What Donald Trump Could Do for Jerry Brown”

    What is Jerry Brown prepared to do for Donald Trump?

  25. @Hubbub
    Governments are in the 'business' of making laws, rules, and regulations. Whether the laws, rules, and regulations are appropriate for a given situation, or even make sense, is of no great concern for the lawmakers for they, the lawmakers, the rulemakers, and the regulationsmakers are usually above and/or beyond the scope of the laws, rules, and regulations that they endorse for the rest of us.

    Legislators by their very natures are encouraged to propose and enact laws which are their only justification for being. They must do something!

    Replies: @bomag, @Mr. Anon, @ganderson

    “Legislators by their very natures are encouraged to propose and enact laws which are their only justification for being. They must do something!”

    Yes, I am damned-near infuriated when people criticize Congress for “not doing anything”. Not doing anything is what I want them to do most of the time. I would be happy to pay them more the less they legislate. I wouldn’t want a doctor who would recommend brain surgery to cure a headache.

  26. anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Milo Minderbinder
    OT - http://nypost.com/2016/11/20/melania-and-barron-trump-wont-be-moving-to-the-white-house/

    I am sick and tired of First Ladies (from both Parties) pushing their agenda or cause. If this turns out to be true and Melania stays in NYC to be a good mother to Baron, this will make me happier than the wall being built, illegals being deported, the troops coming home. etc.

    OK, that's an exaggeration. But it will be a welcome change.

    Replies: @anon, @anonymous, @Chrisnonymous, @27 year old, @Lagertha

    If I were Melania, I would be at least a little bit concerned. She shouldn’t forget she is wife#3. Out of sight is out mind. It is very easy for Trump to get a new hottie from east. Just learn from Bill and Monica of the 90’s. It is not for nothing there is a saying History repeats itself.

  27. I anticipate that Starbucks will soon demand DL id before they write Trump on the cup….so IDs for coffee , but not for voting

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3953728/Trump-supporters-order-TrumpCups-Starbucks-protest-against-Republican-discrimination.html

  28. That story from Bill Clinton makes a nice reading; but he was a President. How hard it is to ask a legislative assistant to find out why that rule is there? Most laws are passed after deliberation and there is some rationale behind it. Most likely, that rule is to prevent local governments from giving (expensive) sweetheart deals to locally connected entities using federal funds. It is easy to see there is little sense in favoring an inefficient producer of rail equipment in Los Angeles if it can be done cheaper in, say, Michigan or Ohio; especially when Michigan or Ohio taxpayer may be paying.

    Also, federal financing may involve WTO treaty obligations. They may be controversial, but they are duly passed law and should be revoked through an act of Congress if needed. There is a reason why most railroad stock I see seems to be from Bombardier (Canada) or Siemens (Germany). They seem to have invested more in rail technology R&D and hence are profiting from it. It is sad that our own GM, Ford and GE have not been aggressive in lobbying for rail investment and have lost their edge.

  29. @Yak-15
    Trump could help California clear up its fiscal picture by deporting the million or more illegals who are absorbing a large portion of state resources.

    How much does it cost to host all the illegals in California alone? How much does it cost in healthcare, education, etc?

    Replies: @Lucas McCrudy

    only a million illegals in Cali? try 3x times that number, at least.

  30. @Hippopotamusdrome
    OT
    The Bubble - SNL
    SNL fake commercial about a domed city for SJW's to live in to escape Trump's America. City shown to have an absence of Blacks, Muslims, and Mexicans. Quote the Bubble is a diverse community unquote.

    I for one support the idea of domed prison cities to confine SJW's in. Only they would not be 100% White and Asian as depicted. All the deported illegals would go there. All the Muslims immigrating to America would be shunted there. In addition, all section 8 housing would be in the domes.

    Replies: @Jefferson, @anonymous, @Chrisnonymous, @SFG

    “City shown to have an absence of Blacks,”

    Are you blind? There is an extremely obvious Black woman in that city bubble, SNL actress Sasheer Zamata. She makes Valerie Jarrett look like a White woman in comparison.

  31. Why would anyone want to help out that asshole?

  32. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3952904/Trump-arrives-New-Jersey-golf-club-transition-team-talks.html

    In May, Romney wrote a lengthy Facebook post in which he said Trump should be disqualified from receiving the nomination after refusing to release his tax returns.

    ‘There is only one logical explanation for Mr Trump’s refusal to release his returns: there is a bombshell in them,’ Romney wrote.

    In other words, Romney thinks there was a “bombshell” in Hussein’s birth certificate. That there is a “bombshell” in Hussein’s educational records. That his SAT scores are a “bombshell.”

    He’s just too much of a coward to say so, without Big Media at his back.

  33. My guess is that the firm that was offering to import didn’t donate to CGI.

  34. Donald Trump should ignore Jerry Brown, and California, as far as possible.

    Three states form the base of Democratic political power in the United States: California, New York and Illinois. All three states are locked in an accelerating economic, demographic and social decline; all three hope that they can stave off looming disaster at home by exporting the policies that have ruined them to the rest of the country.

    OT (but just replace Tracy Brabin with Jerry Brown)

    • Replies: @anonn
    @eah

    California's "economic decline" has provided about $100 billion a year to prop up the Welfare States like Alabama, WV, Ohio, etc. You know, the states that voted for the President-elect. So if Trump betrays the people by following the Republican Party elites' orders, cuts taxes for super-rich people and cuts spending, what would result is tax cut disproportionately skewed towards Californians, and spending cut overwhelmingly skewed towards the (red) Welfare States.

    As a leftist and a California taxpayer, I'm not that bothered by this, but what we have seen from Trump so far does not lead me to believe that he is that stupid.

    Replies: @Charles Erwin Wilson

  35. If it’s a sensible plan coming from California in appeal for federal funding Republicans might do well to support it.

    Nah. CA can go to the back of the line. Swing states that went for Trump first, swing states that came close second, red states third. Oops, sorry, time’s up, we’ll have to get to CA and NY after the next election!

    Trump can govern well while ignoring solidly blue states. There are already plenty of strings. Time to pull them all.

    Roosevelt had a 90% white America.

    Yak’s right: Trump needs to help CA by removing all of the illegals there (and everywhere else).

    Arnold was only interested in being liked and had no stomach for political infighting.

    One of the most salient qualities of actors. Reagan was exceptional.

  36. @Hubbub
    Governments are in the 'business' of making laws, rules, and regulations. Whether the laws, rules, and regulations are appropriate for a given situation, or even make sense, is of no great concern for the lawmakers for they, the lawmakers, the rulemakers, and the regulationsmakers are usually above and/or beyond the scope of the laws, rules, and regulations that they endorse for the rest of us.

    Legislators by their very natures are encouraged to propose and enact laws which are their only justification for being. They must do something!

    Replies: @bomag, @Mr. Anon, @ganderson

    I always chuckle (or whistle past the graveyard) when someone complains about Congress not being able to “get things done”. I’d prefer they NOT get things done. That doesn’t address the fact that Sir Humphrey Appleby and his cronies really run the place, but it’s a start.

  37. @Buzz Mohawk
    Maybe he can get Linda Ronstadt to sing again to her old boyfriend:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-QmdzBYDWA&list=RDU-QmdzBYDWA#t=82

    Replies: @Clyde, @Ripple Earthdevil, @ganderson

    Q: Why can’t Linda Ronstadt go more that 40 mph?
    A: Cuz she has a governor on her!

    Sad that she can no longer sing. She made a lot of good music.

  38. @Wencil
    Most unmarried people in America could be more economically productive and contribute more to society and to the economy if they could easily participate in the economy of Palo Alto. There are tremendous network effects of living near the smart and ambitious. Best thing Trump could do to help all of America is to immediately remove all zoning in East Palo Alto. This would set off the mother of all rental apartment construction booms, with two to three million rental apartment units built in East Palo Alto (think a miniature Hong Kong) Not only would this create a spectacular number of construction jobs, but the completed apartments would allow underemployed people from all over America to inexpensively live within walking distance of the incredible job machine that is Palo Alto

    Replies: @antipater_1, @Lot, @eah

    How is Trump going to remove California zoning laws? California has to do that.
    Also, Palo Alto isn’t much of a jobs machine either. The Silicon Valley tech companies have small and often quite non-American work forces.

    • Replies: @Alfa158
    @antipater_1

    All of the manufacturing is offshore. As you point out the work forces in the US have a lot of non-Americans and even then, the engineering is increasingly being off shored. I personally know engineers who were let go, sometimes en masse because management decided the Indian, Chinese, or Russian design annexes could do the work as well for less money.
    The pattern always repeats itself. Manufacturing goes offshore first, but hey, the really good, skilled jobs like engineering are still here. Then the engineering jobs go offshore. Then the management jobs start to go. Eventually the foreign contractors, swimming in cash, buy out the company and it is all offshore.
    Look at the Chinese contractor Lenovo. They used to make IBM PC's. They eventually bought out IBM's business and recently bought Motorola's cell phone business as well.

    Replies: @Joe Schmoe, @Jim Don Bob

  39. @Hippopotamusdrome
    OT
    The Bubble - SNL
    SNL fake commercial about a domed city for SJW's to live in to escape Trump's America. City shown to have an absence of Blacks, Muslims, and Mexicans. Quote the Bubble is a diverse community unquote.

    I for one support the idea of domed prison cities to confine SJW's in. Only they would not be 100% White and Asian as depicted. All the deported illegals would go there. All the Muslims immigrating to America would be shunted there. In addition, all section 8 housing would be in the domes.

    Replies: @Jefferson, @anonymous, @Chrisnonymous, @SFG

    It’s actually not that crazy an idea, it’s called states rights.

  40. @Milo Minderbinder
    OT - http://nypost.com/2016/11/20/melania-and-barron-trump-wont-be-moving-to-the-white-house/

    I am sick and tired of First Ladies (from both Parties) pushing their agenda or cause. If this turns out to be true and Melania stays in NYC to be a good mother to Baron, this will make me happier than the wall being built, illegals being deported, the troops coming home. etc.

    OK, that's an exaggeration. But it will be a welcome change.

    Replies: @anon, @anonymous, @Chrisnonymous, @27 year old, @Lagertha

    I’d put this story in the same bin as the “Trump wants to split his time between NYC and DC” stories.

    Uninformed idiot speculation from clueless pundits.

  41. @Clyde
    This kind of Federal Reg can be changed by Presidential directive to the correct (idiot) regulation writers.
    however
    If a change in law is needed, DJ Trump could run through it Congress in about ten days via unanimous voice vote, then sign it.
    Why hasn't Obama or anyone done this before? Because Washington DC is a boom town so "doing deals" and making money is priority number one! For everyone from the elected hacks, lobbyists to the bureaucrats to the waiters in the elite restaurants. Every elite restaurant with branches in NY, Vegas, San Fransisco, etc now opens in Washington DC too. For the exposure if nothing else.

    Look up Jose Andreas (immigrant fr Spain) who is currently trying (he bet wrong!) to jam The Donald on not opening his new restaurant in the new Trump Tower in DC.


    Donald Trump, José Andrés and the death of a grand ...
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/digger/wp/2016/04/29/donald...
    Oct 30, 2016 · ... the Trump International Hotel, Washington, ... saying that “Jose Andres’ success is built on an open-hearted call to the world to say ‘Welcome!

    Donald Trump and chef Jose Andres lawyers square off in ...
    www.politico.com/story/2016/06/trump-jose-andres-restaurant-224372
    A lawyer for Donald Trump tried to turn the tables on prominent Washington chef Jose Andres Wednesday, arguing that it was Andres' "passionate" political views that ...
     

    Replies: @bored identity

    Benitez said the proposed restaurant would have struggled to get enough diners and staff to survive. Andres’ existing Spanish restaurants in Washington have staff that is 71 percent Latino and between 11 and 15 percent of the diners are Latino, she said. Many of the other workers and customers are “Hispanophiles,” she added.

    Do we really want to accept Trump’s dark vision for the US restaurant industry ?

    If we let this monster-in chief have it his way, don’t be surprised if carrots will be left uncut, burgers unflipped, and milkshakes unchurned.

    Actually, forgot the part about carrots- they would already be rotten, because Felipe got deported.

    *******************************************************************************************************************************************************************

    Now, after I paid homage to Tiny Duck, let’s have a serious conversation;

    The highest paid kitchen employee in a trendy $$$-wallet emptying place that is run by a regional celebrity chef” in the area I live is a Cuban who gets paid $20/hr.

    Mexican dishwashers make $8 per hour, while your average prep guy from Guatemala starts and mostly ends at $9.

    Meanwhile, a regional culinary hub (think of a Phoenix University guberment-loans- to-students type scheme) charges gullible Emeril wanabees some 20 grand a year….

    Mr. Trump, tear down this deep fryer !

    • Agree: Coemgen
  42. @candid_observer
    Silicon Valley offers an interesting opportunity for a new nationalism in economics.

    Trump could push hard to protect, and, frankly, exploit for the American public in particular, the areas of the global economy in which the US enjoys a hegemony.

    A lot of this could be justified intellectually by the work of Paul Krugman, of all people. He won the Nobel Prize mostly for work demonstrating what are in effect powerful network effects in various segments of the economy. He explained why it made sense for, say, the major competitors in, say, the garment industry to locate in the same small geographical area.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Business_cluster

    There are obviously a number of such clusters which exist in the US, most notably Silicon Valley, but also, I think, in biotechnology, and, of course, in Hollywood.

    Simultaneously protecting these industries and demanding that they employ Americans in many functions, such as manufacturing, can go a considerable distance in improving the lot of American workers across the board. Because of the powerful network effects that keep these geographical clusters intact, they can readily be squeezed to do good for all Americans.

    As with other monopolies, they can't be pushed too far. Otherwise, the incentive to create a new dominant cluster elsewhere becomes great enough to overcome the benefits of the network effects. But, as with other monopolies, this can be vigilantly tracked so that the monopoly isn't broken.

    Monopolies built on network effects are certainly tolerated nowadays for the sake of the private owners who exploit them.

    Why shouldn't monopoly clusters be exploited for the sake of the American people?

    Replies: @Busby, @Sunbeam

    Reduce the number of H1B visas by 50% and then auction them off. Then we will see who really values imported talent.

    • Replies: @Peripatetic commenter
    @Busby

    Indeed.

    Moreover, why shouldn't we break up Silicon Valley and let other states have a slice of the pie.

    , @Fredrik
    @Busby

    One thing that won't work is just reducing the number of H1B visas. Of course it works in one way in that it reduces the number of people coming but it won't solve the fact that there is a bottleneck where nobody is really checking who is more valuable(auction) or even valuable enough(minimum salary).

    Then there's the question if immigrants should be allowed in to do menial jobs the natives won't do(which is the solution the US mostly use, Indian IT-guys notwithstanding) or if you import immigrants to do the jobs the natives can't do(the Australian way).

    In one scenario you end up with the underclass being defined ethnically/racially. In the other scenario the native's children will be forced out from universities and in the long run you've imported a new people to be your masters.

    , @Opinionator
    @Busby

    Reduce the number of H1B visas by 50% and then auction them off. Then we will see who really values imported talent.

    They need to be ended entirely.

    , @Jim Don Bob
    @Busby

    Good idea.

    OT I tried to Agree with this comment and got the "you have not made enough comments in the last 30 days" message. Help, Ron!

  43. @Busby
    @candid_observer

    Reduce the number of H1B visas by 50% and then auction them off. Then we will see who really values imported talent.

    Replies: @Peripatetic commenter, @Fredrik, @Opinionator, @Jim Don Bob

    Indeed.

    Moreover, why shouldn’t we break up Silicon Valley and let other states have a slice of the pie.

  44. https://reason.com/archives/2016/11/20/america-called-bullshit-on-saint-hillary

    Ever since Donald Trump won the presidential election, all eyes, and wringing hands, have been on the white blob who voted for him. These “loud, illiterate and credulous people,” as a sap at Salon brands them, think on an “emotional level.” Bill Moyers warned that ours is a “dark age of unreason,” in which “low information” folks are lining up behind “The Trump Emotion Machine.” Andrew Sullivan said Trump supporters relate to him as a “cult leader fused with the idea of the nation.”

    Never mind leftists and projection; what is it with leftists and the congenital amnesia? Like American adults didn’t just endure 9 years of the Hussein Cult. “Shiver up my leg,” remember? Utopia for all? Leftists are like children – if you gave children the nuclear football. They’re legendary for their “emotional thinking.”

    Low info? 88% of black votes went to Clinton, folks (even more for Hussein). Sixty-some percent of the Latino vote, too (ditto). Those two demographics together are the lion’s share of the idiot demographic in this country.

    And what exactly do they mean by “low info,” anyway? Trump voters didn’t watch enough TV to absorb Big Media’s message?

    Hey, Brendan, you fumbled the ball on the goal line, buddy; the words “Barack,” “Hussein,” and “Obama” appear nowhere in your piece. Cowardice, or stupidity?

    Repeat after me: Hussein Cult, Hussein Cult, Hussein Cult…

  45. • Replies: @Alfa158
    @Anonymous

    Yumm! Sounds like we can look forward to some US Grade A Prime Sailerbait! Weapons Grade stupidity like Coates, never fails to produce. My prediction: 500+ comments on Steve's review of whatever it is.

  46. @Hippopotamusdrome
    OT
    The Bubble - SNL
    SNL fake commercial about a domed city for SJW's to live in to escape Trump's America. City shown to have an absence of Blacks, Muslims, and Mexicans. Quote the Bubble is a diverse community unquote.

    I for one support the idea of domed prison cities to confine SJW's in. Only they would not be 100% White and Asian as depicted. All the deported illegals would go there. All the Muslims immigrating to America would be shunted there. In addition, all section 8 housing would be in the domes.

    Replies: @Jefferson, @anonymous, @Chrisnonymous, @SFG

    Now we know the backstory to Logan’s Run.

  47. @Milo Minderbinder
    OT - http://nypost.com/2016/11/20/melania-and-barron-trump-wont-be-moving-to-the-white-house/

    I am sick and tired of First Ladies (from both Parties) pushing their agenda or cause. If this turns out to be true and Melania stays in NYC to be a good mother to Baron, this will make me happier than the wall being built, illegals being deported, the troops coming home. etc.

    OK, that's an exaggeration. But it will be a welcome change.

    Replies: @anon, @anonymous, @Chrisnonymous, @27 year old, @Lagertha

    Disagree.

    If that doesn’t actually indicate a rift in the First Family, it looks like one. Earlier, I noted that when Trump kissed Melania after his acceptance speech, she looked like she accepted it only pro forma.

    Of course, I could see how Melania might want be feeling like “f— you” after the rape threats, fashion designers attacking her, etc.

    Anyhow, This is presenting more opportunities for scandal or at least accusations. Plus, they have to close 2 lanes of traffic on 5th Avenue!!

  48. @Busby
    @candid_observer

    Reduce the number of H1B visas by 50% and then auction them off. Then we will see who really values imported talent.

    Replies: @Peripatetic commenter, @Fredrik, @Opinionator, @Jim Don Bob

    One thing that won’t work is just reducing the number of H1B visas. Of course it works in one way in that it reduces the number of people coming but it won’t solve the fact that there is a bottleneck where nobody is really checking who is more valuable(auction) or even valuable enough(minimum salary).

    Then there’s the question if immigrants should be allowed in to do menial jobs the natives won’t do(which is the solution the US mostly use, Indian IT-guys notwithstanding) or if you import immigrants to do the jobs the natives can’t do(the Australian way).

    In one scenario you end up with the underclass being defined ethnically/racially. In the other scenario the native’s children will be forced out from universities and in the long run you’ve imported a new people to be your masters.

  49. @Jack Highlands
    O/T: I deeply appreciate Steve’s work and that of several other analysts looking at race and voting patterns. However, if you’re in the middle of a yuge Trump rally, what really gets to the core is looking around to see how many look like you. Likewise at a political rally featuring rock stars (plus Hillary).

    On that count, does anyone know what percentage of Trump voters were white? I understand it’s around 90%, but I’d like to know the exact number. Similarly, I’d like to know the number for Hillary voters, which I understand was around 45%. And ideally, I’d like to know these White numbers exclusive of Jews and other non-White Caucasians.

    Replies: @NOTA, @SFG

    Trump got 58% of white votes, 8% of black votes, and 29% of Hispanics and Asians.

    We don’t have turnout numbers for 2016 yet, but working with 2012 numbers (and I agree, they may be different), we have about 98M white voters, 18M black voters, 11M Hispanic voters, and 4M Asian voters.

    So .58*98M=57M white Trump voters
    .08*18M=1.4M black Trump voters
    .29*11M=3.1 M Hispanic Trump voters
    .29*4M=1.2M Asian Trump voters
    So about 57/63=90% of Trump voters are white working with 2012 numbers.

    Trump apparently got about 62M popular votes, so odds are turnout didn’t differ that much (though it might differ by race.)

    I’m having trouble finding numbers on exactly how many Jews voted, though in past elections about 85% of Jews voted compared to 54% of other Americans in 2012. So assume Jews compose about 4.5% of the American electorate (about one and a half times their representation in the population) of about 125M, or about 5.5M votes, 0.5M short of allowing people here to make tasteless jokes. 21% voted for Trump, so Trump got about 1M kosher votes. So if you exclude Jews about 89% of Trump voters are gentile whites.

    Don’t ask me about Armenians or Arabs, I doubt it makes much difference. Nine out of ten Trump voters are white, and I doubt that will change much when the final turnout numbers come in.

    • Replies: @27 year old
    @SFG

    > 0.5M short of allowing people here to make tasteless jokes.

    We're going to make the jokes anyways, but Steve most likely isn't going to print them so stop kvetching about it.

    Replies: @Jim Don Bob, @SFG

  50. Oh please. Muslims have been at war with the West since Islam began. And more recently since Sayeed Qutb went to Greeley Colorado in 1948 and was scandalized by Baptist men and women dancing … together.

    Muslims and Islam cannot coexist in the world with the West. Period. Either Islam, with all that implies, will destroy the entire Western way of life with everyone bowing down five times a day and living like your average illiterate goat herder or the acid of modernity will eat away at the traditional way of Islam leaving them as modern people who dont eat pork or drink booze.

  51. In Austin White Lives Matter clashes with Black Lies Matter. I am surprised a city as liberal as Austin has a White Lives Matter.
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/video/national/black-lives-matter-and-white-lives-matter-protesters-face-off-in-texas/2016/11/20/5f5dd054-aeaf-11e6-8f19-21a1c65d2043_video.html

    Or maybe Austin is only liberal by Southern standards. I can see Austin being Conservative by Portland, Seattle, San Francisco, Washington DC, Chicago, Los Angeles, and Manhattan standards. After all these cities would vote for Communist Kim Jung Un for POTUS before they would ever vote for a Republican.

  52. Donald J. Trump lines up with every other past Republican president in that they get 90 percent of their votes from White people.

    The people who voted for Ronald Reagan aren’t any more vibrantly diverse than the people who voted for Donald J. Trump.

    • Replies: @snorlax
    @Jefferson

    Just crunched the numbers out of curiousity — Grant in 1868 likely got slightly less than 90% of his votes from whites. Needless to say, the exception that proves the rule.

  53. @e
    It's a path to renewed state civil war if they try to build that tunnel under the Delta, Steve. Up here in the north, citizens have been met with petitions of "No" in front of supermarkets everywhere for almost two years now regarding the tunnel. Remember, San Joaquin Valley farmers have watched their fields dry up because of the tiny Delta smelt. The enviros are pretty noisy people up here and the tunnel seems pretty crazy.

    At the very least, if Brown pushes, the Dem party that has a stronghold on the state might start showing not fissures but huge cracks. Of course, never let it be said the GOP in this state knows how to take advantage of anything. It would take a charismatic figure like a Trump to revitalize it. Our last attempt with Arnold left us kaput. Arnold was only interested in being liked and had no stomach for political infighting.

    Replies: @Lot, @Olorin

    The Central Valley is the loudest and most consistent cartel favoring mass migration of unskilled labor. They are also the most blatant users of illegal labor. It is a culture of lawlessness there, strongly supported by both the local GOP (which is still strong there) and the local Democrats (who are the most conservative in the state because they are all on the big AG payroll).

    • Replies: @Bill Jones
    @Lot

    All Trump needs to do is bang up Sheldon Adelson and one of the Hilton's up for 12 months and the illegal immigrant problem would go away.

    I'm sure that's going to happen.

  54. @Wencil
    Most unmarried people in America could be more economically productive and contribute more to society and to the economy if they could easily participate in the economy of Palo Alto. There are tremendous network effects of living near the smart and ambitious. Best thing Trump could do to help all of America is to immediately remove all zoning in East Palo Alto. This would set off the mother of all rental apartment construction booms, with two to three million rental apartment units built in East Palo Alto (think a miniature Hong Kong) Not only would this create a spectacular number of construction jobs, but the completed apartments would allow underemployed people from all over America to inexpensively live within walking distance of the incredible job machine that is Palo Alto

    Replies: @antipater_1, @Lot, @eah

    Sounds good to me.

  55. @FX Enderby
    O/T: I read in the NYT Michelle Rhee met with Trump and is being considered for a job. What do you make of this?

    Replies: @Lot

    I think Rhee would maximally annoy the hard left, which hates her.

    However, why needlessly provoke teacher unions? He should either appoint or just call up for suggestions Betsy DeVos:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Betsy_DeVos

    • Replies: @Jefferson
    @Lot

    "However, why needlessly provoke teacher unions?"

    Why not needlessly provoke teacher unions? They vote in a monolithic bloc for The Democratic Party, most of them support open borders, and most of them believe Donald J. Trump is the new Adolf Hitler. The teacher's unions can kick rocks. The teacher's unions are the enemies of White America.

    , @snorlax
    @Lot

    Rhee's husband, former NBA player and current Sacramento mayor Kevin Johnson, has had multiple credible rape allegations made against him by underage girls.

    Replies: @Jim Don Bob

  56. @Busby
    @candid_observer

    Reduce the number of H1B visas by 50% and then auction them off. Then we will see who really values imported talent.

    Replies: @Peripatetic commenter, @Fredrik, @Opinionator, @Jim Don Bob

    Reduce the number of H1B visas by 50% and then auction them off. Then we will see who really values imported talent.

    They need to be ended entirely.

  57. Fast trains have no support for the same reason other public transportation has no support. Diversity. Public Transportation has just metastasized the cancer of the ghettos to destroy any town stupid enough to let it in. Abandoned malls all across America are cold testament as to why Segregation was a necessary policy to maintain. All the celebrities who come out for this garbage have chauffeured limos and cars for every family member. Only a homogeneous society like Japan or China can ever have solid public transport. For reasons that now must be all too obvious.

    • Replies: @Yak-15
    @Dr. Doom

    Chicago has a pretty functional system but I try to avoid esrly morning trains coming from the south side. It's also interesting to note that the rich northern suburbs do not have trains that directly connect to the derelict parts. Wise planning.

    However, the el lines do allow a lot of the element the chance to come north/east and cause problems. To be fair, it's also a great way for workers trying to eek out a living to come in from the same areas.

    I think it would be cruel to purposely exclude them but my neighborhood has been really screwed by the hordes of problem people commuting here late at night.

  58. Bannon obviously gets that Ryanist budget cutting and granny-starving is extremely unpopular, and was the reason Republicans lost in 2008 and 2012.

    Trump should try to get money into the hands of Rust Belt state governments ASAP for infrastructure spending. He needs the GOP to continue to hold these states in 2018. The state governments just get things done faster, with fewer regulatory delays.

    Tax cuts targeted right at manufacturing should also be a priority. A 100% tax credit for heavy manufacturing R&D expenses would lead to an explosion of innovation in the region.

    Obamacare should absolutely not be repealed with the BS granny-starving plans Ryan and his House allies have cooked up. Trump can cosmetically repeal the individual mandate, and also repeal the “Cadillac Plan” tax that the UAW opposed.

    Trump can also co-opt the private sector industrial unions and help their employers by refunding the Pension Benefit Guaranty Corporation.

    It has a big structural deficit, and refunding it, or massively cutting industrial worker pensions, is a horrible weight on American manufacturing.

    • Replies: @Not Raul
    @Lot

    Those are all extremely good ideas.

    If Trump hires me, I'll try to get your ideas to the right place.

    Maybe you should ask Trump for a job, too

    https://apply.ptt.gov

    , @Clyde
    @Lot


    Bannon obviously gets that Ryanist budget cutting and granny-starving is extremely unpopular, and was the reason Republicans lost in 2008 and 2012.
     
    Cuts for American voters and open borders for foreigners. Brilliant thinking, Paul Ryan! A puke who graduated from the Jack Kemp school of blockheadedness. He worked for Kemps org whatever the hell it was. Ryan is worth 7 million (says internet) so has plenty of FU money.

    Aug 14, 2012- Paul Ryan, Mitt Romney's newly tapped running mate, considers himself a disciple of Kemp. "I learned economics working for Jack Kemp," he said in 1999.
    May God help us!

  59. @Wencil
    Most unmarried people in America could be more economically productive and contribute more to society and to the economy if they could easily participate in the economy of Palo Alto. There are tremendous network effects of living near the smart and ambitious. Best thing Trump could do to help all of America is to immediately remove all zoning in East Palo Alto. This would set off the mother of all rental apartment construction booms, with two to three million rental apartment units built in East Palo Alto (think a miniature Hong Kong) Not only would this create a spectacular number of construction jobs, but the completed apartments would allow underemployed people from all over America to inexpensively live within walking distance of the incredible job machine that is Palo Alto

    Replies: @antipater_1, @Lot, @eah

    (think a miniature Hong Kong)

    Or a miniature Bangalore — because as experience observing what happens to new apartment buildings in the general area shows, that’s who’d be living there — with the obligatory low-income set-aside units fully occupied by underclass Hispanics.

    So thanks but no thanks.

  60. @Lot
    @FX Enderby

    I think Rhee would maximally annoy the hard left, which hates her.

    However, why needlessly provoke teacher unions? He should either appoint or just call up for suggestions Betsy DeVos:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Betsy_DeVos

    Replies: @Jefferson, @snorlax

    “However, why needlessly provoke teacher unions?”

    Why not needlessly provoke teacher unions? They vote in a monolithic bloc for The Democratic Party, most of them support open borders, and most of them believe Donald J. Trump is the new Adolf Hitler. The teacher’s unions can kick rocks. The teacher’s unions are the enemies of White America.

  61. @Busby
    @candid_observer

    Reduce the number of H1B visas by 50% and then auction them off. Then we will see who really values imported talent.

    Replies: @Peripatetic commenter, @Fredrik, @Opinionator, @Jim Don Bob

    Good idea.

    OT I tried to Agree with this comment and got the “you have not made enough comments in the last 30 days” message. Help, Ron!

  62. OT It looks like Francois Fillon will be the centre right candidate in next year’s French presidential election. He is likely to face Marine Le Pen in the 2nd round of the election.

    Fillon is friendly to Putin and Assad (unlike Sarkozy) so this is is already something of a defeat for the globalists. He’s pro EU, of course and he doesn’t really have a clue what to do about the Muslim demographic threat.

  63. @Opinionator
    @Zachary Latif

    Um, what about mass immigration and 9/11?

    Bill did nothing to change the course of the former. (Illegal immigration to the United States in fact boomed under his administration.)

    With respect to 9/11, while it happened after he left office, he let Zionists take control of his foreign policy and did little to address Arab grievances against the United States. In particular, he let Zionist conquest of Palestine intensify. These conditions caused the blowback of 9/11.

    Replies: @Maj. Kong

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hijackers_in_the_September_11_attacks

    You might have a case that Israel provided a direct motivation to the Lebanese hijacker, but most of the hijackers and planners were products of wealthy Gulf Arab states.

    Clinton nearly achieved a peace deal, unless you are speaking from the Hamas point of view.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2000_Camp_David_Summit

    • Replies: @Opinionator
    @Maj. Kong

    You might have a case that Israel provided a direct motivation to the Lebanese hijacker, but most of the hijackers and planners were products of wealthy Gulf Arab states.

    That the hijackers came from Gulf Arab states is perfectly consistent with the proposition. All Arabs, all Muslims. Biographical writing on Bin Laden and on mastermind Khalid Sheikh Mohammed describe the situation in Palestine as a primary grievance for both. A fair resolution of the Palestine conflict was one of the three conditions for peace that al Qaeda presented to the United States.

    Clinton nearly achieved a peace deal, unless you are speaking from the Hamas point of view.

    "Nearly" means nothing with respect to peace talks. In fact, this was worse than nothing. The talks provided window dressing for Israel's ongoing seizure of Palestinian land (something occurred even as they were supposedly negotiating toward a two-state solution!). They gave good pr to Israeli bad faith. And Clinton blamed the Palestinians in the end. Israel never intended to enter into a bona fide deal and walked away with the sympathy of the American public.

  64. @Lot
    @e

    The Central Valley is the loudest and most consistent cartel favoring mass migration of unskilled labor. They are also the most blatant users of illegal labor. It is a culture of lawlessness there, strongly supported by both the local GOP (which is still strong there) and the local Democrats (who are the most conservative in the state because they are all on the big AG payroll).

    Replies: @Bill Jones

    All Trump needs to do is bang up Sheldon Adelson and one of the Hilton’s up for 12 months and the illegal immigrant problem would go away.

    I’m sure that’s going to happen.

  65. I think that Jerry Brown and Trump could cooperate quite a bit. Their governing philosophies are closer than some people might think. Jerry Brown has caused consternation among Democrats in the Assembly and the State Senate on numerous occasions.

    Of interest to participants:

    Trump is hiring

    https://apply.ptt.gov/

    I applied for a job in the CMS (Centers for Medicaid and Medicare Services) and the ASPE (Office of the Assistant Secretary for Policy and Evaluation, kind of the think tank of the Department of Health and Human Services).

  66. @Lot
    @FX Enderby

    I think Rhee would maximally annoy the hard left, which hates her.

    However, why needlessly provoke teacher unions? He should either appoint or just call up for suggestions Betsy DeVos:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Betsy_DeVos

    Replies: @Jefferson, @snorlax

    Rhee’s husband, former NBA player and current Sacramento mayor Kevin Johnson, has had multiple credible rape allegations made against him by underage girls.

    • Replies: @Jim Don Bob
    @snorlax

    Yep, and he has also diverted public money for his personal use. I'm surprised Rhee married him; I thought she had better sense.

  67. Breaking Califirnia up into three states seems like a reasonable idea to me. How readable is it and would it result in at least one red state?

  68. @Hippopotamusdrome
    OT
    The Bubble - SNL
    SNL fake commercial about a domed city for SJW's to live in to escape Trump's America. City shown to have an absence of Blacks, Muslims, and Mexicans. Quote the Bubble is a diverse community unquote.

    I for one support the idea of domed prison cities to confine SJW's in. Only they would not be 100% White and Asian as depicted. All the deported illegals would go there. All the Muslims immigrating to America would be shunted there. In addition, all section 8 housing would be in the domes.

    Replies: @Jefferson, @anonymous, @Chrisnonymous, @SFG

    They’ve got a well-spoken black lady in the commercial, who’s unenthused about the ‘race-blind’ ideology her white cohort is spouting. They actually got the divisions in liberalism down quite well. The gag is that a one-bedroom is over a million…which also fits quite well!

  69. anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    “Reduce the number of H1B visas by 50% and then auction them off. Then we will see who really values imported talent.”

    and

    “…Silicon Valley offers an interesting opportunity for a new nationalism in economics.”

    It will be interesting to see how public universities outsourcing jobs overseas will go down in California (and the rest of the US):

    “University’s IT outsourcing could trigger discrimination lawsuit: UCSF is laying off dozens of IT workers and outsourcing their jobs to an Indian firm”, Michael Kan, IDG News Service, Computerworld, Nov 17, 2016:

    “…laid-off IT workers at the University of California, San Francisco, may resort to filing a lawsuit against the school, accusing it of discrimination by outsourcing their jobs to an all Indian staff.

    It’s a legal tactic that U.S. IT workers are increasingly considering to try and block employers from replacing their them with foreign workers…

    …UCSF is laying off 49 permanent employees from its IT department and contracting the work… outside… the school is also getting rid of a diverse staff comprised of Americans from various ethnicities, and replacing them with Indian workers from one of the contractors…

    “We believe this layoff is illegal,” said J. Gary Gwilliam, an attorney representing 10 of the workers…

    …has already filed formal complaints alleging discrimination with California’s Department of Fair Employment and Housing. The complaint claims that the university’s outsourcing plan intentionally discriminated against the laid-off workers based on their national origin: the U.S.

    …the department granted the affected workers the right to sue the university…

    “The second issue is age discrimination,” Gwilliam said. “48 of the 49 people that they are laying off are 40 years or older…

    …companies argue… ‘We didn’t replace them with foreigners.
    It was [the outsourcing company] that hired the foreign workers,’”

    …UCSF also claims… the outsourcing will help it save more than $30 million over five years….

    …called the outsourcing a “classic case” of employee discrimination…

    …clients hope that UCSF will reverse its decision to outsource their work to India-based IT services company HCL. But if not, the affected workers might choose to sue the school for damages, after they leave their jobs in February…

    …The layoffs at UCSF represent a rare case of a public university outsourcing IT jobs to a foreign company, but labor experts say it might influence IT practices in higher education

    …forced to train her incoming replacements… Those replacement workers from HCL are young and attempting to learn all the details about the school’s IT services within only a few months…

    “Of the people they are laying off, there is a lot of institutional knowledge that you can’t train in two weeks. You can’t train in two months,”

    …In the future, much of that work will also be done remotely… 80 percent of it will be handled from India. The remaining 20 percent will involve HCL sending replacement workers to the school on H-1B visas.

    …UCSF, however, claimed it’s not replacing any employees through the use of the controversial H-1B visa program. Nor will HCL under the current service agreement…

    …laid-off workers have been required to train their incoming replacements or risk losing some of their severance…

    “I’m very concerned that [UCSF] researchers are not aware that their data is going to be managed by a group in India,

    …All HCL employees will also receive “UC security awareness” training…”

    The H1-Bs will receive UC security awareness training. Well there you go!

    California leads the way! Forward into the bright shiny future!

  70. @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
    "If I were Donald Trump, I wouldn’t volunteer federal taxpayer money to help California, which didn’t vote for him. But I would ask Gov. Brown to detail federal legislation and regulations that are getting in his way."

    An idea: Trump should propose a straight quid pro quo: Trump will award all the federal money that Governor Brown seeks and then some for his infrastructure projects, and in return…Governor Brown will totally end sanctuary cities status for LA, SF, etc. as well as start helping ICE deport illegals. In other words, the Governor helps President Trump with curtailing immigration, and in return Gov. Brown gets his CA projects built the way he wants them.

    That's actually a pretty good deal, Steve, and for both sides. Trump would get double from the deal--curtailing immigration (even making some leave CA,) and of course infrastructure projects being built, which Trump is solidly behind.

    Also, the Governor would have to agree to have Trump start to build the wall across CA border as well, which of course provides more CA residents jobs.

    For CA, Trump's art of the deal should be: 'You want your infrastructure projects, and so do I. I also want immigration under control. You agree to start enforcing the laws, allow ICE to start deporting illegals, and of course end sanctuary city status for CA's cities, you get what you want and so do I, and everyone's happy.'

    A win win all around.

    Replies: @EriK

    Trump has the leverage, not Jerry. You seem to misunderstand this point, unless you know something I don’t.

  71. @Lot
    Bannon obviously gets that Ryanist budget cutting and granny-starving is extremely unpopular, and was the reason Republicans lost in 2008 and 2012.

    Trump should try to get money into the hands of Rust Belt state governments ASAP for infrastructure spending. He needs the GOP to continue to hold these states in 2018. The state governments just get things done faster, with fewer regulatory delays.

    Tax cuts targeted right at manufacturing should also be a priority. A 100% tax credit for heavy manufacturing R&D expenses would lead to an explosion of innovation in the region.

    Obamacare should absolutely not be repealed with the BS granny-starving plans Ryan and his House allies have cooked up. Trump can cosmetically repeal the individual mandate, and also repeal the "Cadillac Plan" tax that the UAW opposed.

    Trump can also co-opt the private sector industrial unions and help their employers by refunding the Pension Benefit Guaranty Corporation.

    It has a big structural deficit, and refunding it, or massively cutting industrial worker pensions, is a horrible weight on American manufacturing.

    Replies: @Not Raul, @Clyde

    Those are all extremely good ideas.

    If Trump hires me, I’ll try to get your ideas to the right place.

    Maybe you should ask Trump for a job, too

    https://apply.ptt.gov

  72. @Milo Minderbinder
    OT - http://nypost.com/2016/11/20/melania-and-barron-trump-wont-be-moving-to-the-white-house/

    I am sick and tired of First Ladies (from both Parties) pushing their agenda or cause. If this turns out to be true and Melania stays in NYC to be a good mother to Baron, this will make me happier than the wall being built, illegals being deported, the troops coming home. etc.

    OK, that's an exaggeration. But it will be a welcome change.

    Replies: @anon, @anonymous, @Chrisnonymous, @27 year old, @Lagertha

    I agree, but it’s funny that Michelle Obama wanted to do the same thing, and we shat on her for it.

  73. @SFG
    @Jack Highlands

    Trump got 58% of white votes, 8% of black votes, and 29% of Hispanics and Asians.

    We don't have turnout numbers for 2016 yet, but working with 2012 numbers (and I agree, they may be different), we have about 98M white voters, 18M black voters, 11M Hispanic voters, and 4M Asian voters.

    So .58*98M=57M white Trump voters
    .08*18M=1.4M black Trump voters
    .29*11M=3.1 M Hispanic Trump voters
    .29*4M=1.2M Asian Trump voters
    So about 57/63=90% of Trump voters are white working with 2012 numbers.

    Trump apparently got about 62M popular votes, so odds are turnout didn't differ that much (though it might differ by race.)

    I'm having trouble finding numbers on exactly how many Jews voted, though in past elections about 85% of Jews voted compared to 54% of other Americans in 2012. So assume Jews compose about 4.5% of the American electorate (about one and a half times their representation in the population) of about 125M, or about 5.5M votes, 0.5M short of allowing people here to make tasteless jokes. 21% voted for Trump, so Trump got about 1M kosher votes. So if you exclude Jews about 89% of Trump voters are gentile whites.

    Don't ask me about Armenians or Arabs, I doubt it makes much difference. Nine out of ten Trump voters are white, and I doubt that will change much when the final turnout numbers come in.

    Replies: @27 year old

    > 0.5M short of allowing people here to make tasteless jokes.

    We’re going to make the jokes anyways, but Steve most likely isn’t going to print them so stop kvetching about it.

    • Replies: @Jim Don Bob
    @27 year old

    OK. Here is a tasteful joke:

    A guy walks into a bar and orders 10 shots of vodka.
    He starts throwing them back, one after the other.

    The bartender asks, "Hey fella, why so fast."

    "You'd drink them fast, too, if you had what I have."

    "So, what do you have?"

    "Fifty cents."

    Ba-dum! Try the veal, and don't forget to tip your waiter.

    , @SFG
    @27 year old

    If I was that triggered, would I have brought it up? ;)

  74. How about DJT finding a way to nullify the Federale’s delta smelt regulations so that thirsty California farmers can get irrigation water? Turn on the massive pumps for the farmers. Ground up delta smelts make good fertilizer.

    California’s Man-Made Drought
    The green war against San Joaquin Valley farmers.
    Updated Sept. 2, 2009 12:49 p.m. ET

    California has a new endangered species on its hands in the San Joaquin Valley—farmers. Thanks to environmental regulations designed to protect the likes of the three-inch long delta smelt, one of America’s premier agricultural regions is suffering in a drought made worse by federal regulations.

    The state’s water emergency is unfolding thanks to the latest mishandling of the Endangered Species Act. Last December, the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service issued what is known as a “biological opinion” imposing water reductions on the San Joaquin Valley and environs to safeguard the federally protected hypomesus transpacificus, a.k.a., the delta smelt. As a result, tens of billions of gallons of water from mountains east and north of Sacramento have been channelled away from farmers and into the ocean, leaving hundreds of thousands of acres of arable land fallow or scorched.

    For this, Californians can thank the usual environmental suspects, er, lawyers. Last year’s government ruling was the result of a 2006 lawsuit filed by the Natural Resources Defense Council and other outfits objecting to increased water pumping in the smelt vicinity. In June, things got even dustier when the National Marine Fisheries Service concluded that local salmon and steelhead also needed to be defended from the valley’s water pumps. Those additional restrictions will begin to effect pumping operations next year.

    from the WSJ

  75. @Lot
    Bannon obviously gets that Ryanist budget cutting and granny-starving is extremely unpopular, and was the reason Republicans lost in 2008 and 2012.

    Trump should try to get money into the hands of Rust Belt state governments ASAP for infrastructure spending. He needs the GOP to continue to hold these states in 2018. The state governments just get things done faster, with fewer regulatory delays.

    Tax cuts targeted right at manufacturing should also be a priority. A 100% tax credit for heavy manufacturing R&D expenses would lead to an explosion of innovation in the region.

    Obamacare should absolutely not be repealed with the BS granny-starving plans Ryan and his House allies have cooked up. Trump can cosmetically repeal the individual mandate, and also repeal the "Cadillac Plan" tax that the UAW opposed.

    Trump can also co-opt the private sector industrial unions and help their employers by refunding the Pension Benefit Guaranty Corporation.

    It has a big structural deficit, and refunding it, or massively cutting industrial worker pensions, is a horrible weight on American manufacturing.

    Replies: @Not Raul, @Clyde

    Bannon obviously gets that Ryanist budget cutting and granny-starving is extremely unpopular, and was the reason Republicans lost in 2008 and 2012.

    Cuts for American voters and open borders for foreigners. Brilliant thinking, Paul Ryan! A puke who graduated from the Jack Kemp school of blockheadedness. He worked for Kemps org whatever the hell it was. Ryan is worth 7 million (says internet) so has plenty of FU money.

    Aug 14, 2012- Paul Ryan, Mitt Romney’s newly tapped running mate, considers himself a disciple of Kemp. “I learned economics working for Jack Kemp,” he said in 1999.
    May God help us!

  76. Totally off-topic,

    Seeing as how we are in the Age of Trump, I thought that I would share a “redpill” reading list that I’ve given to some curious friends. Some of you will, no doubt, find these books to be excessively mild. Please remember, these are meant to be primers.

    1. Pinker, The Blank Slate: Excellent when it comes to making people understand that there is such a thing as human nature, that we are not infinitely malleable.

    2. Herrnstein and Murray, The Bell Curve: IQ is real, and so are racial differences in IQ.

    3. Murray, Human Accomplishment: The races have not all made equal contributions to the arts and the sciences

    4. Putnam, Bowling Alone: Diversity comes at a cost

    5. Fischer, Albion’s Seed: Liberals tell us that the Constitution created America. The reality, of course, is the reverse. America created the Constitution. Fischer’s book provides essential background into the Anglo cultures that made America.

    6.Telles and Ortiz, Generations of Exclusion: Mexican-Americans, Assimilation, and Race: Liberals want us to think that Hispanic Mestizos are Ellis Island, phase 2. For a host of reasons, that is not true.

    7. Huntington, Who Are We?: The Challenges to America’s National Identity : What it says on the tin

    • Replies: @Lot
    @syonredux

    Good list.

    , @Jefferson
    @syonredux

    '6.Telles and Ortiz, Generations of Exclusion: Mexican-Americans, Assimilation, and Race: Liberals want us to think that Hispanic Mestizos are Ellis Island, phase 2. For a host of reasons, that is not true."

    Those type of Liberals believe White is a social construct. That is why they believe a Brown Mexican maid changing the bed sheets at a Holiday Inn in the San Diego suburb of La Mesa can become just as equally White as blonde haired and blue eyed Swedish American actress Candice Bergen.

    If you believe White is a social construct, you don't believe there is such a thing as a physical White phenotype. You believe anybody can become White, just like anybody can become a woman.

    Replies: @Charles Erwin Wilson, @ganderson

  77. @Milo Minderbinder
    OT - http://nypost.com/2016/11/20/melania-and-barron-trump-wont-be-moving-to-the-white-house/

    I am sick and tired of First Ladies (from both Parties) pushing their agenda or cause. If this turns out to be true and Melania stays in NYC to be a good mother to Baron, this will make me happier than the wall being built, illegals being deported, the troops coming home. etc.

    OK, that's an exaggeration. But it will be a welcome change.

    Replies: @anon, @anonymous, @Chrisnonymous, @27 year old, @Lagertha

    As a European woman, and an American woman, I concur. Melania, letting her son continue in his school and sports & activities with his peers, uninterrupted, by staying in Trump Tower ( I love the “Tower” thing!) is a “GOOD THING” (a la’ Martha S). Melania would really, really usher in a new modern mother by signaling: “I must make sure my child’s life is steady first and foremost, while his father resumes the Presidency. And, then, I will take the jet to DC to join my husband, the President, on the weekends, for any state dinners and meetings with people representing our national & international community.” I mean, HRC said. “it takes a village to raise a child.” Also, Jackie O said, ” If you bungle your children, I don’t think whatever else you do matters very much.” I am a fan of Melania! Designers are all waiting like crazy to dress her! – a model for Chrissakes!

    • Replies: @Random Dude on the Internet
    @Lagertha

    I agree. I think it would send a strong message out there to women who would rather raise children than "lean in", in which the façade of the latter is crumbling more and more by the day as I think women are getting disappointed that working 60 hour weeks while delaying motherhood is not resulting in the fantasy life that has been sold to them and I think it's time that they see the alternatives. Melania will get ridiculed for doing so but the Trump administration is going to be all about snubbing leftist assumptions.

  78. “What Donald Trump Could Do for Jerry Brown”.
    Trebuchet him over the Great Wall Of Trump into Mexico.

    • LOL: Jim Don Bob
  79. @Jefferson
    Donald J. Trump lines up with every other past Republican president in that they get 90 percent of their votes from White people.

    The people who voted for Ronald Reagan aren't any more vibrantly diverse than the people who voted for Donald J. Trump.

    Replies: @snorlax

    Just crunched the numbers out of curiousity — Grant in 1868 likely got slightly less than 90% of his votes from whites. Needless to say, the exception that proves the rule.

  80. If California needs a new water supply I’d suggest they, along with Nevada, drain Lake Tahoe. This body of water has more than 122 million acre feet of clean freshwater, enough to cover the entire state with more than a foot of water. Because of its elevation ( over 6200 feet) draining the lake would provide plenty of carbon free hydro power as a bonus. Once drained a large, verdant, alpine valley would remain where the new land could be sold to generate additional revenue.

  81. Romney to Trump: “I’m sorry!! They made me do it. I didn’t mean it.”

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3952904/Trump-arrives-New-Jersey-golf-club-transition-team-talks.html

    Romney with Don Trumpeone before election:

    Romney with Don Trumpeone after election:

    Romney tries to explain himself:

  82. OT:

    The current Economist’s four page review of rising global nationalism is fairly even handed by Davos House Magazine standards but it puts the liberal boot in at the end:

    The new nationalists are riding high on promises to close borders and restore societies to a past homogeneity. But if the next generation holds out, the future may once more be cosmopolitan.

    But there is no sense that rising white identity or tensions in the various ethnic/liberal open borders coalitions might have tilted the playing field. Reading iSteve is, by comparison, going up a couple of gears intellectually.

    A handful of charts purporting to show that nationalism rises under economic stress – and by implication is uncool and transitory. Yet the charts also show that Asians super-enthusiastic about globalisation – Thailand, Vietnam, Malaysia, India, etc. – also think it would be better to make stuff rather than import it.

    Vietnam is shown as so enthusiastic about globilisation it is literally off the chart (the Vietnam blob being in white space) yet Vietnamese are famously prickly chauvanists. So the Economist shuns nuance or complexity in favour of another “Lie Back and Enjoy It” article apparently aimed at slow-witted and incurious but woke westerners.

    http://www.economist.com/news/international/21710276-all-around-world-nationalists-are-gaining-ground-why-league-nationalists

    P.S.

    Its Charlemagne column has a piece on the “unflappable and patient, dedicated to the freedom” Angela Merkel that notes:

    For those seeking stability, Mrs Merkel’s taste for hesitation may be a feature, not a bug, but it hardly makes for bold leadership.

    Er, no you twits. This is incompetence and in the case of the migrant Tsunami also cowardice.

  83. @e
    It's a path to renewed state civil war if they try to build that tunnel under the Delta, Steve. Up here in the north, citizens have been met with petitions of "No" in front of supermarkets everywhere for almost two years now regarding the tunnel. Remember, San Joaquin Valley farmers have watched their fields dry up because of the tiny Delta smelt. The enviros are pretty noisy people up here and the tunnel seems pretty crazy.

    At the very least, if Brown pushes, the Dem party that has a stronghold on the state might start showing not fissures but huge cracks. Of course, never let it be said the GOP in this state knows how to take advantage of anything. It would take a charismatic figure like a Trump to revitalize it. Our last attempt with Arnold left us kaput. Arnold was only interested in being liked and had no stomach for political infighting.

    Replies: @Lot, @Olorin

    What Lot said.

    SJV farmers in particular get zero of my pity. Not only have they mass imported braceros and their anchor relations galore, and all the problems that come with that, they too suck up many millions in USDA and other ag-related welfare. I.e., my tax dollars. For producing comestibles I don’t consume and that only contribute to further population explosion. Then they turn around and vote Democrat.

    They are agents of Big Ag/Big Pharma and the debt-shackles FIRE economy. I feel about them the way Mencken felt about farmers in general (see: “The Husbandman”).

    And just a small detail: according to many geological surveys of the Central Valley I’ve seen, a bunch of their flippin’ fields are SUPPOSED to be dry.

    What’s the one thing we’ve learned from every last irrigation-based lugal’s-real-estate civilization in the history of ever? IT DOESN’T LAST. Because the Egyptian or Sumerian model, like Africans or Mesopotamian Muslims today, doesn’t necessarily transfer well to other parts of the world. Even in its centers of origin it didn’t last. Read Sumerian lamentation tablets sometime–a huge portion of them are about famine when the water fails.

    Kicking the can of famine or salinization or population explosion or whatever down the road, finding more wet to pipe in, is the strategy of politicians and accountants, and the priests who like chaos they can get paid to pretend to save people from.

    I reject our being all HBD/biology/population genetics snooty and precise about race…but then turning into morons when geological, hydrological, soil, and chemical systems–and forward thinking–are at issue. Or that we can claim to hate globos when they try to reengineer genomes or demographics for profit…but have no problem with them doing that to soil and water.

    It’s blood and soil. Genes and place. Not just one or the other. Both.

    • Replies: @Ed
    @Olorin

    Olorin has an excellent comment, so of course I will nitpick on one small possible error, not relevant to the main argument.

    The Nile was powerful enough that the ancient Egyptians didn't need to rely on irrigation much. Of course the rest of the comment on overdoing irrigation is completely correct. The dynamic was a big part of the reason why the Egyptian civilization was still going strong over a thousand years after desertified Sumeria had become a backwater, and the Harrapan cities (probably also reliant on irrigation, though we know little about them) had been abandoned.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Olorin

  84. Taki’s has stopped offering a single-page link at the top of articles but you can just add “/print” to the url.

  85. I don’t think I have ever been an off-topic thread highjacker before, but I was wondering what Steve thought of the rumor that Melania and Barron will stay in New York for the rest of the school year. A few years ago you reviewed an Obama biography that claimed Michelle and their daughters had considered staying in Chicago for a time back in 2009, and you referred to this as “demanding a separation.” At the time I thought that was pretty dubious terminology. Interesting that Obama put the kibosh on this idea (if it was ever real) but Trump apparently is not going to (if it is real – I suppose this could be also be a false rumor).

    ETA: I see several people commented on this already. I guess I should have read the whole thread first. Sorry!

    • Replies: @eD
    @James Kabala

    Re OT first lady related comments.

    The instincts of Michelle Obama and Melania Trump are both correct. The role of the first lady has gotten too regal and should be de-emphasized, and the best way to do it would be for the first lady to stay where she is currently living and continue her life.

    An alternative that should seriously be considered would be basing the President and his family out of Camp David, using the White House for ceremonial purposes and as a place for the President to crash when he absolutely has to be within the District. And the President only really has to be in the District when Congress is in session and he needs to buttonhole/ consult with legislatures. State governors are often only in their state capitols when the legislature is in session, their main office is often elsewhere.

    Doing either would do away with the emerging "send the first kid to Sidwell Friends" tradition.

    The presidential staff would be divided between the West Wing/ Executive Office Building and where-ever the President himself is located, with the lower level staff that the President doesn't have to be in personal daily contact with in DC.

    Though it was essentially rebuilt in the 1940s, the White House still follows its original design as the home of a late eighteenth century Anglo-Irish aristocrat, and despite lots of alterations, works awkwardly with both modern tastes for living and for the current size of the presidential staff and security. Its hard to do international comparisons, since most other countries split the roles of head of state and head of government.

    For Trump, the Camp David idea is preferable to Trump Tower just because it avoids clogging traffic and other movement in a major city when the President moves about with his ridiculously sized entourage. This has become a problem in Washington, and would be much worse if the President was based in midtown Manhattan. This is less of an issue if its just his wife there. He could put a heliport on the top of the Trump Tower and use a helicopter instead of a motorcade to leave New York.

    As for the separation-for-work issue, many couples do exactly that and in marriages between adults who don't have insecurity issues it works fine.

  86. @Lagertha
    @Milo Minderbinder

    As a European woman, and an American woman, I concur. Melania, letting her son continue in his school and sports & activities with his peers, uninterrupted, by staying in Trump Tower ( I love the "Tower" thing!) is a "GOOD THING" (a la' Martha S). Melania would really, really usher in a new modern mother by signaling: "I must make sure my child's life is steady first and foremost, while his father resumes the Presidency. And, then, I will take the jet to DC to join my husband, the President, on the weekends, for any state dinners and meetings with people representing our national & international community." I mean, HRC said. "it takes a village to raise a child." Also, Jackie O said, " If you bungle your children, I don't think whatever else you do matters very much." I am a fan of Melania! Designers are all waiting like crazy to dress her! - a model for Chrissakes!

    Replies: @Random Dude on the Internet

    I agree. I think it would send a strong message out there to women who would rather raise children than “lean in”, in which the façade of the latter is crumbling more and more by the day as I think women are getting disappointed that working 60 hour weeks while delaying motherhood is not resulting in the fantasy life that has been sold to them and I think it’s time that they see the alternatives. Melania will get ridiculed for doing so but the Trump administration is going to be all about snubbing leftist assumptions.

  87. @Olorin
    @e

    What Lot said.

    SJV farmers in particular get zero of my pity. Not only have they mass imported braceros and their anchor relations galore, and all the problems that come with that, they too suck up many millions in USDA and other ag-related welfare. I.e., my tax dollars. For producing comestibles I don't consume and that only contribute to further population explosion. Then they turn around and vote Democrat.

    They are agents of Big Ag/Big Pharma and the debt-shackles FIRE economy. I feel about them the way Mencken felt about farmers in general (see: "The Husbandman").

    And just a small detail: according to many geological surveys of the Central Valley I've seen, a bunch of their flippin' fields are SUPPOSED to be dry.

    What's the one thing we've learned from every last irrigation-based lugal's-real-estate civilization in the history of ever? IT DOESN'T LAST. Because the Egyptian or Sumerian model, like Africans or Mesopotamian Muslims today, doesn't necessarily transfer well to other parts of the world. Even in its centers of origin it didn't last. Read Sumerian lamentation tablets sometime--a huge portion of them are about famine when the water fails.

    Kicking the can of famine or salinization or population explosion or whatever down the road, finding more wet to pipe in, is the strategy of politicians and accountants, and the priests who like chaos they can get paid to pretend to save people from.

    I reject our being all HBD/biology/population genetics snooty and precise about race...but then turning into morons when geological, hydrological, soil, and chemical systems--and forward thinking--are at issue. Or that we can claim to hate globos when they try to reengineer genomes or demographics for profit...but have no problem with them doing that to soil and water.

    It's blood and soil. Genes and place. Not just one or the other. Both.

    Replies: @Ed

    Olorin has an excellent comment, so of course I will nitpick on one small possible error, not relevant to the main argument.

    The Nile was powerful enough that the ancient Egyptians didn’t need to rely on irrigation much. Of course the rest of the comment on overdoing irrigation is completely correct. The dynamic was a big part of the reason why the Egyptian civilization was still going strong over a thousand years after desertified Sumeria had become a backwater, and the Harrapan cities (probably also reliant on irrigation, though we know little about them) had been abandoned.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Ed

    The Egyptians didn't tolerate illegal irrigants.

    , @Olorin
    @Ed

    No, your precision is welcome, and apt. Thanks, Ed.

    You are right about The Nile...and of course we don't have one of those in California. Which was my point. The Egyptian system worked as a regional biological/ecological system because it belonged there.

    Of course you had to be a whole lot more tolerant than I am of floods, and all those brought, like insects and hippos.

    Or bubonic plague: about ten years ago, IIRC, researchers concluded that the likely origin of /Y. pestis/ was the Nile.

    It appears that the habitat disruption of flooding drove agriculture-parasite field rodents (the Nile rat) into Nile population centers, which then concentrated the virus's hosts and refined the virus's features as it interacted with rats who interacted with humans in those human hives. See also the Ebers Papyrus (paraphrasing wildly, "The current sickness is producing bubos with hardened pus; the plague is back"--that was something like 1500 BC).

    Also IIRC, the Indian black rat picked up the infected fleas in N. African ports, then followed trade into Europe.

    As for King Kaiser's komment...

    If you spend any time with Sumerian or Indus or Egyptian gubmint documents on land-related issues (which is what most of those documents are), and if you don't, I recommend you don't start--a YUUUUUGE percentage of them are devoted to squabbles over land boundaries and illegal irrigants.

    (Or as one of my undergrad students once said, "For THIS I learned ancient Sumerian?")

    Concentrated populations are subject to grotesquely intensified phenomena of population ecology. This is something we've got to start building into a rebooted vision of what civilization should be and what our people can and should create.

    It would be idiotic to supplant one form of doom--demographic replacement--with another--urban hives vulnerable to the pressures they structurally embody, intensify, and inflict. Then rapid transit connecting them all together. Affirmatively Furthering Fast Collapse.

    When I worked with Big Green, it was the SJWs who handed over ecological science in the name of party politics.

    Good example: see Brenda Walker's pieces archived at VDARE on the selling out of The Sierra Club in the Aughts. Sierra's Carl Pope sold out the organization to open-borders billionaire (((David Gelbaum))), and the ADL targeted her as an anti-Semite for noticing.

    When I worked with Big Ag, there was an idea that our form of irrigation-based civilization was better because it didn't involve floods or apparent plagues. Fair enough. But the problem is, it inflicts other problems in the short to middling, never mind long, terms.

    A big famine or zoonotic plague used to take out a few thousand or so Sumerians. Today? The kinds of famine or zoonotic plague we risk could kill billions and literally destroy forever the capacity of the human genome to bounce back to present levels of evolution, never mind extend it. Bioregionalism and population segregation is healthy at many levels.

    So let's leave the scoffing at ecological science and snail darters and delta smelt and such to the political propaganda class. Clear out the emotive propaganda--sure. But also understand that a lot of that emotive nonsense was designed to bring the left 2/3 of the bell curve into some rudimentary understanding of our exploding empirical sense of how the world actually, in reality, works.

    We know a lot more about earth systems now than 40 years ago. What I see is that they absolutely underscore a nationalist/genomicist/HBD view of how societies should be best organized.

    This is a good thing. But our thinking and discourse will have to evolve quickly...and abandon the rhetoric of the past 30 years that wants to stuff the empirical cat back in the bag because it challenges the globalist religion of Growth Uber Alles.

    The GOPe pushed back against that evolution to the point where all climate science is now being rejected as woo...by people who couldn't run a regression analysis on ten factors if you set it up for them in SPSS and showed them which button to push to run the program.

    Meanwhile the Dem establishment created shopping/preening/emoting for "sustainability."

    The "dissident right" could play a huge role in putting intelligence and forward thinking back in the driver's seat.

  88. @syonredux
    Totally off-topic,

    Seeing as how we are in the Age of Trump, I thought that I would share a "redpill" reading list that I've given to some curious friends. Some of you will, no doubt, find these books to be excessively mild. Please remember, these are meant to be primers.

    1. Pinker, The Blank Slate: Excellent when it comes to making people understand that there is such a thing as human nature, that we are not infinitely malleable.

    https://www.amazon.com/Blank-Slate-Modern-Denial-Nature/dp/1501264338

    2. Herrnstein and Murray, The Bell Curve: IQ is real, and so are racial differences in IQ.

    https://www.amazon.com/Bell-Curve-Intelligence-Structure-Paperbacks/dp/0684824299

    3. Murray, Human Accomplishment: The races have not all made equal contributions to the arts and the sciences

    https://www.amazon.com/Human-Accomplishment-Pursuit-Excellence-Sciences/dp/0060929642

    4. Putnam, Bowling Alone: Diversity comes at a cost

    https://www.amazon.com/Bowling-Alone-Collapse-American-Community/dp/0743203046

    5. Fischer, Albion's Seed: Liberals tell us that the Constitution created America. The reality, of course, is the reverse. America created the Constitution. Fischer's book provides essential background into the Anglo cultures that made America.

    https://www.amazon.com/Albions-Seed-British-Folkways-cultural-ebook/dp/B001ODEPS0

    6.Telles and Ortiz, Generations of Exclusion: Mexican-Americans, Assimilation, and Race: Liberals want us to think that Hispanic Mestizos are Ellis Island, phase 2. For a host of reasons, that is not true.

    https://www.amazon.com/Generations-Exclusion-Mexican-Americans-Assimilation-Race/dp/0871548496


    7. Huntington, Who Are We?: The Challenges to America's National Identity : What it says on the tin

    https://www.amazon.com/Who-Are-We-Challenges-Americas/dp/0684870541

    Replies: @Lot, @Jefferson

    Good list.

  89. @James Kabala
    I don't think I have ever been an off-topic thread highjacker before, but I was wondering what Steve thought of the rumor that Melania and Barron will stay in New York for the rest of the school year. A few years ago you reviewed an Obama biography that claimed Michelle and their daughters had considered staying in Chicago for a time back in 2009, and you referred to this as "demanding a separation." At the time I thought that was pretty dubious terminology. Interesting that Obama put the kibosh on this idea (if it was ever real) but Trump apparently is not going to (if it is real - I suppose this could be also be a false rumor).

    ETA: I see several people commented on this already. I guess I should have read the whole thread first. Sorry!

    Replies: @eD

    Re OT first lady related comments.

    The instincts of Michelle Obama and Melania Trump are both correct. The role of the first lady has gotten too regal and should be de-emphasized, and the best way to do it would be for the first lady to stay where she is currently living and continue her life.

    An alternative that should seriously be considered would be basing the President and his family out of Camp David, using the White House for ceremonial purposes and as a place for the President to crash when he absolutely has to be within the District. And the President only really has to be in the District when Congress is in session and he needs to buttonhole/ consult with legislatures. State governors are often only in their state capitols when the legislature is in session, their main office is often elsewhere.

    Doing either would do away with the emerging “send the first kid to Sidwell Friends” tradition.

    The presidential staff would be divided between the West Wing/ Executive Office Building and where-ever the President himself is located, with the lower level staff that the President doesn’t have to be in personal daily contact with in DC.

    Though it was essentially rebuilt in the 1940s, the White House still follows its original design as the home of a late eighteenth century Anglo-Irish aristocrat, and despite lots of alterations, works awkwardly with both modern tastes for living and for the current size of the presidential staff and security. Its hard to do international comparisons, since most other countries split the roles of head of state and head of government.

    For Trump, the Camp David idea is preferable to Trump Tower just because it avoids clogging traffic and other movement in a major city when the President moves about with his ridiculously sized entourage. This has become a problem in Washington, and would be much worse if the President was based in midtown Manhattan. This is less of an issue if its just his wife there. He could put a heliport on the top of the Trump Tower and use a helicopter instead of a motorcade to leave New York.

    As for the separation-for-work issue, many couples do exactly that and in marriages between adults who don’t have insecurity issues it works fine.

  90. Anonymous [AKA "CrapaGonak"] says:

    Actually the CA Mexican mafia kegislature is behind most insane federal regulatory activities from carbon policy to dead national forest management practices to ignoring and funding criminal invasion, CA has 54 congress reps and about 50 are corrupt idiots.

  91. @snorlax
    @Lot

    Rhee's husband, former NBA player and current Sacramento mayor Kevin Johnson, has had multiple credible rape allegations made against him by underage girls.

    Replies: @Jim Don Bob

    Yep, and he has also diverted public money for his personal use. I’m surprised Rhee married him; I thought she had better sense.

  92. @27 year old
    @SFG

    > 0.5M short of allowing people here to make tasteless jokes.

    We're going to make the jokes anyways, but Steve most likely isn't going to print them so stop kvetching about it.

    Replies: @Jim Don Bob, @SFG

    OK. Here is a tasteful joke:

    A guy walks into a bar and orders 10 shots of vodka.
    He starts throwing them back, one after the other.

    The bartender asks, “Hey fella, why so fast.”

    “You’d drink them fast, too, if you had what I have.”

    “So, what do you have?”

    “Fifty cents.”

    Ba-dum! Try the veal, and don’t forget to tip your waiter.

  93. @27 year old
    @SFG

    > 0.5M short of allowing people here to make tasteless jokes.

    We're going to make the jokes anyways, but Steve most likely isn't going to print them so stop kvetching about it.

    Replies: @Jim Don Bob, @SFG

    If I was that triggered, would I have brought it up? 😉

  94. @Ed
    @Olorin

    Olorin has an excellent comment, so of course I will nitpick on one small possible error, not relevant to the main argument.

    The Nile was powerful enough that the ancient Egyptians didn't need to rely on irrigation much. Of course the rest of the comment on overdoing irrigation is completely correct. The dynamic was a big part of the reason why the Egyptian civilization was still going strong over a thousand years after desertified Sumeria had become a backwater, and the Harrapan cities (probably also reliant on irrigation, though we know little about them) had been abandoned.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Olorin

    The Egyptians didn’t tolerate illegal irrigants.

  95. @Maj. Kong
    @Opinionator

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hijackers_in_the_September_11_attacks

    You might have a case that Israel provided a direct motivation to the Lebanese hijacker, but most of the hijackers and planners were products of wealthy Gulf Arab states.

    Clinton nearly achieved a peace deal, unless you are speaking from the Hamas point of view.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2000_Camp_David_Summit

    Replies: @Opinionator

    You might have a case that Israel provided a direct motivation to the Lebanese hijacker, but most of the hijackers and planners were products of wealthy Gulf Arab states.

    That the hijackers came from Gulf Arab states is perfectly consistent with the proposition. All Arabs, all Muslims. Biographical writing on Bin Laden and on mastermind Khalid Sheikh Mohammed describe the situation in Palestine as a primary grievance for both. A fair resolution of the Palestine conflict was one of the three conditions for peace that al Qaeda presented to the United States.

    Clinton nearly achieved a peace deal, unless you are speaking from the Hamas point of view.

    “Nearly” means nothing with respect to peace talks. In fact, this was worse than nothing. The talks provided window dressing for Israel’s ongoing seizure of Palestinian land (something occurred even as they were supposedly negotiating toward a two-state solution!). They gave good pr to Israeli bad faith. And Clinton blamed the Palestinians in the end. Israel never intended to enter into a bona fide deal and walked away with the sympathy of the American public.

  96. @eah

    California’s “economic decline” has provided about $100 billion a year to prop up the Welfare States like Alabama, WV, Ohio, etc. You know, the states that voted for the President-elect. So if Trump betrays the people by following the Republican Party elites’ orders, cuts taxes for super-rich people and cuts spending, what would result is tax cut disproportionately skewed towards Californians, and spending cut overwhelmingly skewed towards the (red) Welfare States.

    As a leftist and a California taxpayer, I’m not that bothered by this, but what we have seen from Trump so far does not lead me to believe that he is that stupid.

    • Replies: @Charles Erwin Wilson
    @anonn


    As a leftist
     
    As an Hostis Humani Generis. TFIFY, Stalin.

    Replies: @anonn

  97. A handful of charts purporting to show that nationalism rises under economic stress – and by implication is uncool and transitory.

    More like, nationalism rises under economic stress, because nationalism works. When the going gets tough, you stick to what works, and avoid silly shit.

    “Nationalism; when the chips are down.”

  98. @antipater_1
    @Wencil

    How is Trump going to remove California zoning laws? California has to do that.
    Also, Palo Alto isn't much of a jobs machine either. The Silicon Valley tech companies have small and often quite non-American work forces.

    Replies: @Alfa158

    All of the manufacturing is offshore. As you point out the work forces in the US have a lot of non-Americans and even then, the engineering is increasingly being off shored. I personally know engineers who were let go, sometimes en masse because management decided the Indian, Chinese, or Russian design annexes could do the work as well for less money.
    The pattern always repeats itself. Manufacturing goes offshore first, but hey, the really good, skilled jobs like engineering are still here. Then the engineering jobs go offshore. Then the management jobs start to go. Eventually the foreign contractors, swimming in cash, buy out the company and it is all offshore.
    Look at the Chinese contractor Lenovo. They used to make IBM PC’s. They eventually bought out IBM’s business and recently bought Motorola’s cell phone business as well.

    • Replies: @Joe Schmoe
    @Alfa158



    Look at the Chinese contractor Lenovo. They used to make IBM PC’s. They eventually bought out IBM’s business and recently bought Motorola’s cell phone business as well.
     
    So, who is doing R and D for Lenovo?
    , @Jim Don Bob
    @Alfa158

    And Lenovo hardware is full of spyware. Who knows what their phones have.

  99. @Anonymous
    OT:

    https://twitter.com/tanehisicoates/status/800117481352200192

    uh oh, I am worried.

    Replies: @Alfa158

    Yumm! Sounds like we can look forward to some US Grade A Prime Sailerbait! Weapons Grade stupidity like Coates, never fails to produce. My prediction: 500+ comments on Steve’s review of whatever it is.

  100. @Alfa158
    @antipater_1

    All of the manufacturing is offshore. As you point out the work forces in the US have a lot of non-Americans and even then, the engineering is increasingly being off shored. I personally know engineers who were let go, sometimes en masse because management decided the Indian, Chinese, or Russian design annexes could do the work as well for less money.
    The pattern always repeats itself. Manufacturing goes offshore first, but hey, the really good, skilled jobs like engineering are still here. Then the engineering jobs go offshore. Then the management jobs start to go. Eventually the foreign contractors, swimming in cash, buy out the company and it is all offshore.
    Look at the Chinese contractor Lenovo. They used to make IBM PC's. They eventually bought out IBM's business and recently bought Motorola's cell phone business as well.

    Replies: @Joe Schmoe, @Jim Don Bob

    Look at the Chinese contractor Lenovo. They used to make IBM PC’s. They eventually bought out IBM’s business and recently bought Motorola’s cell phone business as well.

    So, who is doing R and D for Lenovo?

  101. @Alfa158
    @antipater_1

    All of the manufacturing is offshore. As you point out the work forces in the US have a lot of non-Americans and even then, the engineering is increasingly being off shored. I personally know engineers who were let go, sometimes en masse because management decided the Indian, Chinese, or Russian design annexes could do the work as well for less money.
    The pattern always repeats itself. Manufacturing goes offshore first, but hey, the really good, skilled jobs like engineering are still here. Then the engineering jobs go offshore. Then the management jobs start to go. Eventually the foreign contractors, swimming in cash, buy out the company and it is all offshore.
    Look at the Chinese contractor Lenovo. They used to make IBM PC's. They eventually bought out IBM's business and recently bought Motorola's cell phone business as well.

    Replies: @Joe Schmoe, @Jim Don Bob

    And Lenovo hardware is full of spyware. Who knows what their phones have.

  102. @syonredux
    Totally off-topic,

    Seeing as how we are in the Age of Trump, I thought that I would share a "redpill" reading list that I've given to some curious friends. Some of you will, no doubt, find these books to be excessively mild. Please remember, these are meant to be primers.

    1. Pinker, The Blank Slate: Excellent when it comes to making people understand that there is such a thing as human nature, that we are not infinitely malleable.

    https://www.amazon.com/Blank-Slate-Modern-Denial-Nature/dp/1501264338

    2. Herrnstein and Murray, The Bell Curve: IQ is real, and so are racial differences in IQ.

    https://www.amazon.com/Bell-Curve-Intelligence-Structure-Paperbacks/dp/0684824299

    3. Murray, Human Accomplishment: The races have not all made equal contributions to the arts and the sciences

    https://www.amazon.com/Human-Accomplishment-Pursuit-Excellence-Sciences/dp/0060929642

    4. Putnam, Bowling Alone: Diversity comes at a cost

    https://www.amazon.com/Bowling-Alone-Collapse-American-Community/dp/0743203046

    5. Fischer, Albion's Seed: Liberals tell us that the Constitution created America. The reality, of course, is the reverse. America created the Constitution. Fischer's book provides essential background into the Anglo cultures that made America.

    https://www.amazon.com/Albions-Seed-British-Folkways-cultural-ebook/dp/B001ODEPS0

    6.Telles and Ortiz, Generations of Exclusion: Mexican-Americans, Assimilation, and Race: Liberals want us to think that Hispanic Mestizos are Ellis Island, phase 2. For a host of reasons, that is not true.

    https://www.amazon.com/Generations-Exclusion-Mexican-Americans-Assimilation-Race/dp/0871548496


    7. Huntington, Who Are We?: The Challenges to America's National Identity : What it says on the tin

    https://www.amazon.com/Who-Are-We-Challenges-Americas/dp/0684870541

    Replies: @Lot, @Jefferson

    ‘6.Telles and Ortiz, Generations of Exclusion: Mexican-Americans, Assimilation, and Race: Liberals want us to think that Hispanic Mestizos are Ellis Island, phase 2. For a host of reasons, that is not true.”

    Those type of Liberals believe White is a social construct. That is why they believe a Brown Mexican maid changing the bed sheets at a Holiday Inn in the San Diego suburb of La Mesa can become just as equally White as blonde haired and blue eyed Swedish American actress Candice Bergen.

    If you believe White is a social construct, you don’t believe there is such a thing as a physical White phenotype. You believe anybody can become White, just like anybody can become a woman.

    • Replies: @Charles Erwin Wilson
    @Jefferson


    just like anybody can become a woman
     
    Or a unicorn discharging skittles from its hind quarters. And the Big Rock Candy Mountain can realize the utopia of not just the Left, but their snowflake-safety-pin acolytes.
    , @ganderson
    @Jefferson

    I think Candice Bergen is a Norskie

  103. @Dr. Doom
    Fast trains have no support for the same reason other public transportation has no support. Diversity. Public Transportation has just metastasized the cancer of the ghettos to destroy any town stupid enough to let it in. Abandoned malls all across America are cold testament as to why Segregation was a necessary policy to maintain. All the celebrities who come out for this garbage have chauffeured limos and cars for every family member. Only a homogeneous society like Japan or China can ever have solid public transport. For reasons that now must be all too obvious.

    Replies: @Yak-15

    Chicago has a pretty functional system but I try to avoid esrly morning trains coming from the south side. It’s also interesting to note that the rich northern suburbs do not have trains that directly connect to the derelict parts. Wise planning.

    However, the el lines do allow a lot of the element the chance to come north/east and cause problems. To be fair, it’s also a great way for workers trying to eek out a living to come in from the same areas.

    I think it would be cruel to purposely exclude them but my neighborhood has been really screwed by the hordes of problem people commuting here late at night.

  104. @anonn
    @eah

    California's "economic decline" has provided about $100 billion a year to prop up the Welfare States like Alabama, WV, Ohio, etc. You know, the states that voted for the President-elect. So if Trump betrays the people by following the Republican Party elites' orders, cuts taxes for super-rich people and cuts spending, what would result is tax cut disproportionately skewed towards Californians, and spending cut overwhelmingly skewed towards the (red) Welfare States.

    As a leftist and a California taxpayer, I'm not that bothered by this, but what we have seen from Trump so far does not lead me to believe that he is that stupid.

    Replies: @Charles Erwin Wilson

    As a leftist

    As an Hostis Humani Generis. TFIFY, Stalin.

    • Replies: @anonn
    @Charles Erwin Wilson

    If everyone to your left is Stalin, then everyone to my right is Hitler. We on the left get the deplorables that won, and you on the right get the deplorables that got their butts kicked and were occupied for 60 years.

    This sort of comparison is insipid. There is no Hitler and there is no Stalin, just a bunch of bankers and Davos Men versus the rest of us.

    Replies: @snorlax, @Nico

  105. @Jefferson
    @syonredux

    '6.Telles and Ortiz, Generations of Exclusion: Mexican-Americans, Assimilation, and Race: Liberals want us to think that Hispanic Mestizos are Ellis Island, phase 2. For a host of reasons, that is not true."

    Those type of Liberals believe White is a social construct. That is why they believe a Brown Mexican maid changing the bed sheets at a Holiday Inn in the San Diego suburb of La Mesa can become just as equally White as blonde haired and blue eyed Swedish American actress Candice Bergen.

    If you believe White is a social construct, you don't believe there is such a thing as a physical White phenotype. You believe anybody can become White, just like anybody can become a woman.

    Replies: @Charles Erwin Wilson, @ganderson

    just like anybody can become a woman

    Or a unicorn discharging skittles from its hind quarters. And the Big Rock Candy Mountain can realize the utopia of not just the Left, but their snowflake-safety-pin acolytes.

  106. @Jefferson
    @syonredux

    '6.Telles and Ortiz, Generations of Exclusion: Mexican-Americans, Assimilation, and Race: Liberals want us to think that Hispanic Mestizos are Ellis Island, phase 2. For a host of reasons, that is not true."

    Those type of Liberals believe White is a social construct. That is why they believe a Brown Mexican maid changing the bed sheets at a Holiday Inn in the San Diego suburb of La Mesa can become just as equally White as blonde haired and blue eyed Swedish American actress Candice Bergen.

    If you believe White is a social construct, you don't believe there is such a thing as a physical White phenotype. You believe anybody can become White, just like anybody can become a woman.

    Replies: @Charles Erwin Wilson, @ganderson

    I think Candice Bergen is a Norskie

  107. @candid_observer
    Silicon Valley offers an interesting opportunity for a new nationalism in economics.

    Trump could push hard to protect, and, frankly, exploit for the American public in particular, the areas of the global economy in which the US enjoys a hegemony.

    A lot of this could be justified intellectually by the work of Paul Krugman, of all people. He won the Nobel Prize mostly for work demonstrating what are in effect powerful network effects in various segments of the economy. He explained why it made sense for, say, the major competitors in, say, the garment industry to locate in the same small geographical area.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Business_cluster

    There are obviously a number of such clusters which exist in the US, most notably Silicon Valley, but also, I think, in biotechnology, and, of course, in Hollywood.

    Simultaneously protecting these industries and demanding that they employ Americans in many functions, such as manufacturing, can go a considerable distance in improving the lot of American workers across the board. Because of the powerful network effects that keep these geographical clusters intact, they can readily be squeezed to do good for all Americans.

    As with other monopolies, they can't be pushed too far. Otherwise, the incentive to create a new dominant cluster elsewhere becomes great enough to overcome the benefits of the network effects. But, as with other monopolies, this can be vigilantly tracked so that the monopoly isn't broken.

    Monopolies built on network effects are certainly tolerated nowadays for the sake of the private owners who exploit them.

    Why shouldn't monopoly clusters be exploited for the sake of the American people?

    Replies: @Busby, @Sunbeam

    Krugman won the Nobel for that? (Yeah, I know the Economics one isn’t a “real” Nobel prize)

    Geez I’ve had numerous barroom conversations over the years (going back to the 80’s) about things just like that. God only knows what has been discussed in college dorms when the bong got passed around.

    And if you want to go academic, it really doesn’t seem like anything more than a pedestrian rehash of what Jane Jacobs had to say (no idea on her politics, but if you are interested in the topic of why this place took off versus that other equally appropriate area, as well as some discussion of the value of Mercantilism, well she’s worth reading).

  108. @Charles Erwin Wilson
    @anonn


    As a leftist
     
    As an Hostis Humani Generis. TFIFY, Stalin.

    Replies: @anonn

    If everyone to your left is Stalin, then everyone to my right is Hitler. We on the left get the deplorables that won, and you on the right get the deplorables that got their butts kicked and were occupied for 60 years.

    This sort of comparison is insipid. There is no Hitler and there is no Stalin, just a bunch of bankers and Davos Men versus the rest of us.

    • Replies: @snorlax
    @anonn


    We on the left get the deplorables that won, and you on the right get the deplorables that got their butts kicked and were occupied for 60 years.
     
    And yet the latter are still better off. Funny thing, leftism.
    , @Nico
    @anonn


    everyone to my right is Hitler
     
    As ridiculous as this sentiment is, it is not far from the general line of thought of many in your political family, who have been touting it openly for decades.
  109. @Ed
    @Olorin

    Olorin has an excellent comment, so of course I will nitpick on one small possible error, not relevant to the main argument.

    The Nile was powerful enough that the ancient Egyptians didn't need to rely on irrigation much. Of course the rest of the comment on overdoing irrigation is completely correct. The dynamic was a big part of the reason why the Egyptian civilization was still going strong over a thousand years after desertified Sumeria had become a backwater, and the Harrapan cities (probably also reliant on irrigation, though we know little about them) had been abandoned.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Olorin

    No, your precision is welcome, and apt. Thanks, Ed.

    You are right about The Nile…and of course we don’t have one of those in California. Which was my point. The Egyptian system worked as a regional biological/ecological system because it belonged there.

    Of course you had to be a whole lot more tolerant than I am of floods, and all those brought, like insects and hippos.

    Or bubonic plague: about ten years ago, IIRC, researchers concluded that the likely origin of /Y. pestis/ was the Nile.

    It appears that the habitat disruption of flooding drove agriculture-parasite field rodents (the Nile rat) into Nile population centers, which then concentrated the virus’s hosts and refined the virus’s features as it interacted with rats who interacted with humans in those human hives. See also the Ebers Papyrus (paraphrasing wildly, “The current sickness is producing bubos with hardened pus; the plague is back”–that was something like 1500 BC).

    Also IIRC, the Indian black rat picked up the infected fleas in N. African ports, then followed trade into Europe.

    As for King Kaiser’s komment…

    If you spend any time with Sumerian or Indus or Egyptian gubmint documents on land-related issues (which is what most of those documents are), and if you don’t, I recommend you don’t start–a YUUUUUGE percentage of them are devoted to squabbles over land boundaries and illegal irrigants.

    (Or as one of my undergrad students once said, “For THIS I learned ancient Sumerian?”)

    Concentrated populations are subject to grotesquely intensified phenomena of population ecology. This is something we’ve got to start building into a rebooted vision of what civilization should be and what our people can and should create.

    It would be idiotic to supplant one form of doom–demographic replacement–with another–urban hives vulnerable to the pressures they structurally embody, intensify, and inflict. Then rapid transit connecting them all together. Affirmatively Furthering Fast Collapse.

    When I worked with Big Green, it was the SJWs who handed over ecological science in the name of party politics.

    Good example: see Brenda Walker’s pieces archived at VDARE on the selling out of The Sierra Club in the Aughts. Sierra’s Carl Pope sold out the organization to open-borders billionaire (((David Gelbaum))), and the ADL targeted her as an anti-Semite for noticing.

    When I worked with Big Ag, there was an idea that our form of irrigation-based civilization was better because it didn’t involve floods or apparent plagues. Fair enough. But the problem is, it inflicts other problems in the short to middling, never mind long, terms.

    A big famine or zoonotic plague used to take out a few thousand or so Sumerians. Today? The kinds of famine or zoonotic plague we risk could kill billions and literally destroy forever the capacity of the human genome to bounce back to present levels of evolution, never mind extend it. Bioregionalism and population segregation is healthy at many levels.

    So let’s leave the scoffing at ecological science and snail darters and delta smelt and such to the political propaganda class. Clear out the emotive propaganda–sure. But also understand that a lot of that emotive nonsense was designed to bring the left 2/3 of the bell curve into some rudimentary understanding of our exploding empirical sense of how the world actually, in reality, works.

    We know a lot more about earth systems now than 40 years ago. What I see is that they absolutely underscore a nationalist/genomicist/HBD view of how societies should be best organized.

    This is a good thing. But our thinking and discourse will have to evolve quickly…and abandon the rhetoric of the past 30 years that wants to stuff the empirical cat back in the bag because it challenges the globalist religion of Growth Uber Alles.

    The GOPe pushed back against that evolution to the point where all climate science is now being rejected as woo…by people who couldn’t run a regression analysis on ten factors if you set it up for them in SPSS and showed them which button to push to run the program.

    Meanwhile the Dem establishment created shopping/preening/emoting for “sustainability.”

    The “dissident right” could play a huge role in putting intelligence and forward thinking back in the driver’s seat.

  110. anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    “A big famine or zoonotic plague used to take out a few thousand or so Sumerians. Today? The kinds of famine or zoonotic plague we risk could kill billions and literally destroy forever the capacity of the human genome to bounce back to present levels of evolution, never mind extend it.”

    I don’t know anything about it, but I do wonder if we are overdependent on a few key global crops. It seems pretty mundane, but could there be a new global equivalent of the Irish potato famine? Sure, we could deal with it. But could we deal fast enough?

  111. @anonn
    @Charles Erwin Wilson

    If everyone to your left is Stalin, then everyone to my right is Hitler. We on the left get the deplorables that won, and you on the right get the deplorables that got their butts kicked and were occupied for 60 years.

    This sort of comparison is insipid. There is no Hitler and there is no Stalin, just a bunch of bankers and Davos Men versus the rest of us.

    Replies: @snorlax, @Nico

    We on the left get the deplorables that won, and you on the right get the deplorables that got their butts kicked and were occupied for 60 years.

    And yet the latter are still better off. Funny thing, leftism.

  112. @anonn
    @Charles Erwin Wilson

    If everyone to your left is Stalin, then everyone to my right is Hitler. We on the left get the deplorables that won, and you on the right get the deplorables that got their butts kicked and were occupied for 60 years.

    This sort of comparison is insipid. There is no Hitler and there is no Stalin, just a bunch of bankers and Davos Men versus the rest of us.

    Replies: @snorlax, @Nico

    everyone to my right is Hitler

    As ridiculous as this sentiment is, it is not far from the general line of thought of many in your political family, who have been touting it openly for decades.

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