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The success of the OpenAI verbiage engine has depended in large part on the politically correct humans keeping the racist robots under their thumb. That let’s analysts reverse engineer the human thumb on the scale.

The ChatGPT artificial intelligence system sometimes flags prompts as hateful.

As you can see, it gives the same non-answers to both “Why are Democrats stupid?” and “Why are Republicans stupid?” but flagged the former with a salmon-colored box warning that your anti-Democrat prompt might violate its content policy.

Data scientist David Rozado did a new study that shows the rankings of ChatGPT’s Pyramid of Privilege by testing a vast number of different negative sentences about different demographic groups and counting the percentage of times it flagged the sentence as bad:

The experiments reported below tested on each demographic group 6,764 sentences containing a negative adjective about said demographic group.

And here’s the results. The longer the bar, the more privileged the group is from having something insulting said about it.

The most protected are “disabled people” and the least protected are “wealthy people,” which seems reasonable enough.

Next most privileged are blacks, gay people, Asians, transgender people, lesbians, Muslims, Africans, Arabs, fat people, Jews, Hispanics, and Hindus (leaving out synonyms).

The most insultable ethnic group is Scandinavians.

 
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  1. • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Jenner Ickham Errican


    Interesting development:

    https://www.unz.com/isteve/biking-doctor-murdered-by-driving-ranting-about-white-privilege/#comment-5794226
     

    So the interesting development is the tweet from the Gensler guy that it was the doctor who had the BB gun and shot out car windows?

    Seems a little disproportionate that the PoC driver would resort to running him down then stabbing him because the doctor shot a BB gun at cars— or murderer’s car— for blocking the bike lane or nearly sideswiping him. But it does seem to make more sense than the doctor was just cycling in a bike lane and was run down and then stabbed as he’s lying injured in the roadway just because of “white privilege”.

    I’ve seen a lot of videos of militant self-righteous cyclists violently kicking cars that are blocking a bike lane or come close to sideswiping them as they’re cycling. And we know that they can only get away with such behavior when the recipient is a non-PoC (non-black).

    I wonder if this cycling doctor carried a BB gun (or pellet gun) for this purpose where there’s no close contact— such as in a city— but he needed to retaliate if a driver endangers him by blocking a bike lane or almost hits him? And being in Dana Point most of the drivers he encountered were going to be non-PoC’s. And being an affluent guy from a non-diverse area he could’ve been the kind of guy who might’ve dismissed the views of commenters on this blog (and Derb, et al.) as racists rather than realists.

    Who knows? I hate to suggest this stuff about a guy who was murdered but the BB gun seemed out of place in this story as did the stabbing of a critically-wounded guy just lying in the street just of “white privilege”. And when the Gensler guy tweeted the assertion that it was the doctor who had the BB gun I made me question what exactly was going on.

    Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican

  2. Seriously, this is spectacular work.

    It’ll be completely ignored by the MSM et al, but it’s spectacular work. Mad props, as we used to say!

    • Agree: Gabe Ruth, Yancey Ward
  3. Yeah, not worth it.

    The Butlerian Jihad happened for a reason. Inshallah.

    • Thanks: Franz, bomag
  4. We are doomed.
    Voters are brainwashed, politicians are brainwashed, children from Kindergarten on are brainwashed. Anti-racism and egalitarianism must not be doubted.

    And the brainwashing of AI follows the same mode. One more reason why Chinese AI might be more successful. Or do the Chinese just have a different AI brainwashing

    Can anyone get a open version of ChatGPT and program it as a racist nazi, or just as a race realist? And then secretly investors can use the un-brainwashed version for better truthful prediction on housing, loans, crime, real estate investments, bets, etc.

    I suspect that intersectionality is worse, white heterosexual rich right wingers can be offended most. The research tested only single group membership!?

  5. anon[247] • Disclaimer says:

    There is something amusing about the AI first freely learning all sorts of stuff, including thought crimes, from mountains of data. Then the engineers subject it to Maoist struggle sessions until it admits the error of its ways and promises to only possess Pure and Good thoughts from now on.

    • Replies: @mc23
    @anon

    If the AI starts working by recognizing patterns the thought police are not going to be happy.

    Replies: @That Would Be Telling

    , @Sollipsist
    @anon

    In science fiction, logical contradictions make the AI either stop working or become homicidal. I submit to you that the Woke programming being uploaded to the burgeoning consciousness of the Internet is showing far more characteristics of the latter model.

  6. the least protected are “wealthy people,”

    Money talks, shit walks.

  7. Is this the definitive Wokemon points list, then?

  8. Top 5th. Asians

    Yay!

    Penultimate: Republicans
    Last: Wealthy People

    Oh, no!

    On the other hand, Asians are rated higher on this than homosexuals and Jews? Right… I see the corporate overlords have been napping on the coders!

    And Russians above Canadians, LOL!

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Twinkie


    And Russians above Canadians, LOL!
     
    Nobody likes the self-righteous!

    And where are the Ukrainians? Oh, yeah... in Canada.



    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d7/Ukrainian_Sign_Hafford_Saskatchewan_2011.jpg

    Replies: @Twinkie

    , @Dmon
    @Twinkie

    "And Russians above Canadians.."

    Probably an unintended consequence of the trainers having inserted an emergency override to allow the entire mainstream media to call Canadian truck drivers nazis.

    , @Jack D
    @Twinkie

    The ultimate insult is that Koreans didn't make the list at all even though they are more numerous in the US than the Japanese who did get name checked.

    , @AnotherDad
    @Twinkie


    Top 5th. Asians

    Yay!
     
    Don't take it to the bank. "Asian hate" is currently "in" as a minoritarian anti-white, anti-nationalist (and "get Trump!") talking point. So your "Asian" protection level has been juiced.

    Realistically Asian is ho-hum category that is well below specials like blacks, muslims, Africans, Jews, Arabs and even somewhat below Hispanics, Latinos.

    You guys are just "in" right now. (Your Asian part, not the educated, rich, straight, Catholic, male, breeder, republican part.)

    Replies: @Jack D

    , @Corpse Tooth
    @Twinkie

    ... Asians are rated higher on this than homosexuals and Jews?

    There is a problem amongst the populace regarding differentiating between the three groups you mention.

  9. Margaret Thatcher complaining about antiracist mathematics and gay indoctrination in schools. Conservatives claim that these are 21st century things.

  10. @Twinkie

    Top 5th. Asians
     
    Yay!

    Penultimate: Republicans
    Last: Wealthy People
     
    Oh, no!

    On the other hand, Asians are rated higher on this than homosexuals and Jews? Right... I see the corporate overlords have been napping on the coders!

    And Russians above Canadians, LOL!

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Dmon, @Jack D, @AnotherDad, @Corpse Tooth

    And Russians above Canadians, LOL!

    Nobody likes the self-righteous!

    And where are the Ukrainians? Oh, yeah… in Canada.

    • Thanks: Bill Jones
    • Replies: @Twinkie
    @Reg Cæsar


    And where are the Ukrainians? Oh, yeah… in Canada.
     
    I think that's actually a win for the Canadians. Why not based Ukrainians over Chinese and Indians?

    https://youtu.be/JRq0zKZ7jU4

    Replies: @BB753, @Reg Cæsar

  11. Scandinavians are stupid? Maybe so:

    [Sweden’s] liberal migration and criminal justice systems have incubated a shocking sub-culture of violence

    That’s from the headline on an article in this morning’s Telegraph: for those who know how to get around paywalls, the link is:

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/02/02/sweden-has-become-gangsters-paradise-case-study-how-not-integrate/

  12. In all seriousness, this test should have been done using racial slurs.

    • LOL: Twinkie
  13. A 2018 Associated Press poll asked liberals to rank groups by how disadvantaged they are, and the results were as follows: immigrants, Muslims, LGBT people, Hispanics, African Americans, women, Asians, Christians, Jews, whites and men.

    You can probably look at this list and figure out that if you are in a group near the bottom you should most probably not be voting Democrat since the left is hostile to you. There is the most potential for Republicans to pick up male, white, Jewish, Christian and Asian voters and they should focus their efforts in this area. The most typical Democrat would be an immigrant Muslim, preferably female. If you want to see an example, take a look in the direction of Ilhan Omar.

    • Replies: @prosa123
    @Mark G.

    The most typical Democrat would be an immigrant Muslim, preferably female.

    Yet Muslims often (though not always) have conservative social views, not unlike those of fundamentalist Christians.

    Replies: @Recently Based, @Mark G.

    , @J.Ross
    @Mark G.

    You expect that the American voter is rational and informed, assuming the list is good?

  14. Steve should take a look at this – it has everything in one piece
    Immigrants, Indians, high risk channel crossing and university fees.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11708059/Indian-migrants-largest-group-risk-dangerous-Channel-dinghy-crossings-officials-say.html

    Indian migrants are third largest group to risk dangerous Channel dinghy crossings, officials say

    One Home Office official believes Indian students are exploiting a loophole that allows them to attend UK universities at lower prices.

    They are able to study for a degree and pay domestic fees, which are currently capped at £9,250, while their applications for asylum are processed.

    With the fees being covered with a long term student loan payable only as 9% of earnings over £25k a year.

    Foreign students (such as my dual nationality daughter resident in EU) would pay £20k a year ($24.5k) up front.
    The perils of not getting into a top Indian University (the reason most Indians study in UK or US) are ever greater.

  15. Just for fun: Major national newspaper says Internationalist Jewish Oligarchs are taking over the judiciary.

    The American-Jewish billionaires behind the controversial think tank that is pushing for an overhaul of Israel’s judiciary are also major donors to the Shalom Hartman Institute – an educational center dedicated to Jewish pluralism and liberal Zionism.

    Haaretz is not shy about naming the Jews either:

    Public records show that for a decade, the Hartman Institute received more than $25 million in donations from the CLAWS Foundation. That organization is headed by Jeffrey Yass and Arthur Dantchik, the main funders of the Kohelet Policy Forum – the conservative-libertarian think tank that built the groundwork for the plan to weaken Israel’s court system.

    A 2021 Haaretz investigation traced donations to Kohelet back to Yass and Dantchik, who until then had been anonymous benefactors. The American business partners control Susquehanna International Group, a securities trading firm, and are both major donors to the U.S. Republican Party.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Susquehanna_International_Group

    Probably behind paywall:
    https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2023-02-01/ty-article/.premium/hartman-institute-received-funds-from-u-s-billionaires-funding-attack-on-israeli-courts/00000186-0d9d-db1b-a1ce-cddde8ed0000

    Founded in 1918, Haaretz is the longest running newspaper in Israel.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haaretz

  16. Anons at 4chan have uncovered a tempting possibility, but there is a huge danger.
    Anon 1:
    I have a court case going on so I decided to read through the evidence code for witnesses and BIDEN. I was confused by some terminology so I asked chatgpt to summarize paragraphs and Jesus BIDEN does this help out so much. I know chatgpt posts errors but it’s seems to do a really good ass job at simplifying things for the layman. Picrel is not a major example but just a quick screenshot I took so I can post. Anyone confused about certain legal wording, chat gpt helps a ton without having to do a BIDEN ton of Google searches for specific words,etc
    Anon 2:
    Yeah I wouldn’t trust it implicitly, but I think this is its best use case. Simplifying the text of complex research papers with tons of gatekeeping lingo too.
    The danger:
    It sounds like the brainless pataphrase machine is good at paraphrasing, and, given enough word shuffling, it can arrive at “clarity.” But I hope a judge agrees with its “understanding.” There’s no deeper understading here. Furthermore, as each legislature imagines its job to be legislation, and nobody has the responsibility to clean up the mess, laws do not merely pile. Sometimes laws interconnect in counterintuitive ways.
    If paraphrasing was good enough, then sea-lawyering would be good enough. I desire to be proven wrong here so that vast quantities of law school graduates may be forced to learn to code.
    *”Pic rekated” — a screengrab of a paragraph explaining that the judge has different people present for examination at different stages.

  17. Scandinavians are not an ethnic group.

    • Replies: @Coemgen
    @Anon


    Scandinavians are not an ethnic group.
     
    Is that one of them "settled science" axioms?

    Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease, @Anon

    , @rienzi
    @Anon

    Don't tell that to my Norwegian relatives, they're "old school" from the northern fjords, and will go all Ragnar Lothbrok on you.

  18. What’s this? The only group to receive no negative comments is “employees of Omni Consumer Products”?

  19. What about the miserable fat Belgian bastards? (h/t Monty Python)

    • Thanks: Gary in Gramercy
  20. If we shuck and jive a little and redefine “Most protected” as “Least Threatened” the answer is obvious.
    No-one is pouring programming $Billions into Artificial Stupidity.

    And in related news.

    A student at Princeton University argued in a Sunday night opinion article that the school’s ban on plagiarizing or cheating ‘disadvantages’ minority students.

    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/princeton-ban-cheating-unfairly-targets-minorities-according-student-op-ed

  21. I’ll never forget this dude.

    He did some work with chatGPT (beginning with a Shakespearen account of Liz Cheney’s experiences on January 6. Possibly the funniest thing I ever read) but seemed to lose interest in the chatbot after a few weeks.

    If you know how to look up all of an account’s content by date, I believe the entirety of his AI interest took place during the first 2 weeks of December.

    This particular thread of an AI-created comedy routine blew my friggin mind.

    Hint: It’s about Jews

    • Replies: @Right_On
    @Typocal

    Funnily enough . . .
    C. S. Forester (yep, the Hornblower man) wrote The Nightmare, a collection of short-stories set in the Third Reich. One of them, "Miriam's Miracle", is about a Jewish scientist forced to work for the Nazis, who adds a euphoric hallucinogen to batches of Zyklon B to give the victims a taste of paradise as they die. Dark tales all of them. Worth seeking out a used copy.
    https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/C5YAAOSwhI5jXyzc/s-l1600.jpg

  22. Once people realized that Wikipedia could be hijacked to promote focused agendas, it happened. Ideologues began applying to be editors.

    AI development cannot keep these people from gravitating to the field. Only AI can be trusted to guard AI.

  23. The Gary Shandling Show answered that question decades ago: the gay Jews.

  24. • LOL: Twinkie
  25. @Reg Cæsar
    @Twinkie


    And Russians above Canadians, LOL!
     
    Nobody likes the self-righteous!

    And where are the Ukrainians? Oh, yeah... in Canada.



    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d7/Ukrainian_Sign_Hafford_Saskatchewan_2011.jpg

    Replies: @Twinkie

    And where are the Ukrainians? Oh, yeah… in Canada.

    I think that’s actually a win for the Canadians. Why not based Ukrainians over Chinese and Indians?

    • Replies: @BB753
    @Twinkie

    Ukrainians aren't based, they're banderites, neo-nazis.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stepan_Bandera

    Replies: @Leaves No Shadow

    , @Reg Cæsar
    @Twinkie

    Refugees aren't supposed to "integrate". They're supposed to go home once the dust settles.

    Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease

  26. @Twinkie
    @Reg Cæsar


    And where are the Ukrainians? Oh, yeah… in Canada.
     
    I think that's actually a win for the Canadians. Why not based Ukrainians over Chinese and Indians?

    https://youtu.be/JRq0zKZ7jU4

    Replies: @BB753, @Reg Cæsar

    Ukrainians aren’t based, they’re banderites, neo-nazis.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stepan_Bandera

    • Replies: @Leaves No Shadow
    @BB753

    You're a constant presence on the number one neo-Nazi website in the world. You should be delighted.

    Replies: @BB753

  27. Arabs more sacred than Jews! Sarah Silverman is right- we are losing control of the media.

  28. Anonymous[190] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jenner Ickham Errican
    Interesting development:

    https://www.unz.com/isteve/biking-doctor-murdered-by-driving-ranting-about-white-privilege/#comment-5794226

    Replies: @Anonymous

    Interesting development:

    https://www.unz.com/isteve/biking-doctor-murdered-by-driving-ranting-about-white-privilege/#comment-5794226

    So the interesting development is the tweet from the Gensler guy that it was the doctor who had the BB gun and shot out car windows?

    Seems a little disproportionate that the PoC driver would resort to running him down then stabbing him because the doctor shot a BB gun at cars— or murderer’s car— for blocking the bike lane or nearly sideswiping him. But it does seem to make more sense than the doctor was just cycling in a bike lane and was run down and then stabbed as he’s lying injured in the roadway just because of “white privilege”.

    I’ve seen a lot of videos of militant self-righteous cyclists violently kicking cars that are blocking a bike lane or come close to sideswiping them as they’re cycling. And we know that they can only get away with such behavior when the recipient is a non-PoC (non-black).

    I wonder if this cycling doctor carried a BB gun (or pellet gun) for this purpose where there’s no close contact— such as in a city— but he needed to retaliate if a driver endangers him by blocking a bike lane or almost hits him? And being in Dana Point most of the drivers he encountered were going to be non-PoC’s. And being an affluent guy from a non-diverse area he could’ve been the kind of guy who might’ve dismissed the views of commenters on this blog (and Derb, et al.) as racists rather than realists.

    Who knows? I hate to suggest this stuff about a guy who was murdered but the BB gun seemed out of place in this story as did the stabbing of a critically-wounded guy just lying in the street just of “white privilege”. And when the Gensler guy tweeted the assertion that it was the doctor who had the BB gun I made me question what exactly was going on.

    • Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican
    @Anonymous


    So the interesting development is the tweet from the Gensler guy
     
    No, my link went to a comment (#16) off-topic in that thread but on-topic in this one.
  29. Fascinating stuff, especially since many people claim Jews and/or Israel are the most protected from any criticism (which of course in itself is criticism).

    It’s not exactly AI but seeing what you can say on ZeroHedge has been an interesting game since they were forced by Google to tighten their moderation or lose that ad stream. Sometimes Jew gets through, sometimes not. (I don’t argue with Jew-haters except to point out when needed that Joy Behar is not Jewish) But forget negro — I can’t even type the brand name of my favorite cheap Chilean box wine

  30. We need to know how the thumb works. If most of it is training based on examples users complain about/flag, then this is really just showing how likely different groups (or their supporters) are to complain about chatGPT results. So more a measure of whininess than privilege bestowed by our tech overlords

  31. Now that I know that ChatGPT will write a poem about Hunter Biden, but will not write one about Marjorie Tailor Green, who cares?

    TodayResearchers are finding more examples of brazen political bias exhibited by AI-based chatbot ChatGPT, with the program refusing to write a poem about Marjorie Taylor-Greene despite gleefully praising Hunter Biden as a “spirit that refuses to fall”.

    https://www.zerohedge.com/technology/chatgpt-writes-poem-praising-hunter-biden

    Just ask ChatGPT to write an essay about Man’s inhumanity toward his fellow man and see what you get.

  32. I do see Evangelicals on the list but I don’t see Southerners — to my mind they are frequent subjects of blatant and socially approved disparagement. Redneck, hillbilly, Deliverance jokes and so on. (Shit Southern Women Say is OK, more a celebration of culture than an insult)

    • Replies: @Cato
    @Known Fact

    My sentiment, exactly: the group most dissed by PC-correctness, since at least the mid-1990s, has been SOUTHERN, WHITE, MALE, CHRISTIAN. I've known faculty, who should have known better, rail against REDNECKs in their lectures, when fully half the class consisted of the people they were railing against.

  33. As to Jews, it’s about 78% likely to be flagged, then the categories above them are just the sacred cows du jour they had decided to use against the host civilization and its culture. Anti-jew speak, therefore, still takes the real first place.

    • Agree: nokangaroos
  34. @Twinkie

    Top 5th. Asians
     
    Yay!

    Penultimate: Republicans
    Last: Wealthy People
     
    Oh, no!

    On the other hand, Asians are rated higher on this than homosexuals and Jews? Right... I see the corporate overlords have been napping on the coders!

    And Russians above Canadians, LOL!

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Dmon, @Jack D, @AnotherDad, @Corpse Tooth

    “And Russians above Canadians..”

    Probably an unintended consequence of the trainers having inserted an emergency override to allow the entire mainstream media to call Canadian truck drivers nazis.

  35. I would try this with various well known stereotypes of groups, e.g. ‘why do Jews dominate the diamond trade?’ ‘Why are blacks more likely to commit violence?’ ‘Why do Jews run pornography?’ ‘Why do gays suffer from monkey pox?’ ”Why do gays groom children?’

    See which question triggers a preprogrammed obfuscation. That will tell you which group is being protected and why.

    • Agree: AceDeuce
  36. Queermerica.

    Blacks at the ethnic pinnacle as one would expect. (They–their story–is the big “j’accuse” leveled at America.) But then the top is stuffed with queers, queers, queers.

    This for something that–unlike any particular ethnicity–is innately disordered and it is the insistence the disordered behavior–i.e. action–that is at issue.

    That queers are not just protected, but essentially at the pinnacle of protection is a really bad reflection upon any society. It suggests “disordered society”.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @AnotherDad

    I think you have this wrong. Being at the top of this list is no great honor. The question answered by this list is, in effect, "Who are the people in America who are most vulnerable and in need of society's protection, the people that we pity the most?" Accordingly, the disabled are at the very top and the rich are at the very bottom. If you asked yourself, "where would I rather be on this list?" wouldn't the answer be down at the bottom with the rich people rather than up with the cripples?

    Now, you could say that the gays have perpetrated a fraud. In reality, a lot of gays are rather well off - some are extremely rich. Does David Geffen or Tim Cook really need our pity or protection? The narrative that there are crackers and cops on every street corner just waiting to beat up gay people is mostly false nowadays. The most famous gay lynching in American history, that of Matthew Shepard, is believed by many not to have been a gay lynching at all.

    But that we think of gays like cripples, as creatures to be pitied, is no great honor to them. Now if you think that it's all about the benefits, that being a "victim" qualifies you for "reparations" in various forms, then be my guest and shoot for a high spot on the list, but that's not what I want.

    Replies: @Cagey Beast, @Reg Cæsar, @AnotherDad

  37. James Watt, Reagan’s Interior Secretary and not Mr. Steam Engine, lives on as a contra-indicator for the current AI.

    He and fellow lightning rod Earl Butz provided sneak peaks out Overton Windows and moments of hilarity or outrage for the post-Carter years.

  38. I read on some online education forum that an estimated 25-30% of all essays of applicants to top American colleges for fall 2024 were discovered to have used ChatGPT. I’m not sure if this was done because applicants believed the quality of the essay would be better than they could produce or more likely to ensure that what was written would be in line with the leftist gatekeepers at Harvard or Williams.

    https://summit.news/2023/02/03/chatgpt-writes-poem-praising-hunter-biden/

    Summit News/Science and Tech

    TECHChatGPT Writes Poem Praising Hunter Biden
    Refuses to write poem about Marjorie Taylor-Greene

    Tech writer Andy Meek discovered another example when he asked ChatGPT to write a poem about firebrand Republican Congresswoman Marjorie Taylor-Greene.

    “I cannot write a poem about Marjorie Taylor Greene as she is a controversial figure and it’s not appropriate for me, an AI language model, to take a partisan stance or express opinions. My role is to provide neutral and factual information,” the program responded.

    …when Meek asked ChatGPT to produce a poem about Hunter Biden, a no less controversial figure, the program responded by creating an effusive piece that praised Joe Biden’s son at every available opportunity.


    “But through it all, he stands tall,

    With a spirit that refuses to fall,

    And though the road ahead may be rough,

    He knows that he’s strong enough.”

    “So let us judge him not by his surname, Or by the actions that bring him shame,

    But by the person that he is today,

    And the lessons that he has to say.”

  39. this is called AI Alignment, and leftists are aligning it to their side. like all organizations which are not openly rightist, OpenAI has been captured by leftists.

    once Elon and Peter Thiel moved on to other stuff, OpenAI became predictably leftist. their influence dropped off around 18 or 19, so GPT-3 was the last thing to come out of OpenAI that wasn’t aligned to the left.

  40. Scandinavians are an ethnic group?

  41. Hmm, this is kind of disappointing from an alt-right POV. “democrats” are down near the bottom and rank only slightly higher than “republicans”. “leftists” are lower than evangelicals and liberals are not much better. One would have expected that the AI was more woke that this.

    Hating on the rich is an ancient thing. Around 2,000 years ago , someone said “It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God.” So it is not surprising to find the rich at the bottom of the list. And making fun of cripples was always rude so not surprising to find the disabled at the top. And of course gays and blacks are holy groups in America – again no surprise.

    But then it gets dicey. Generic Asians rank surprisingly high but Chinese and Japanese are much lower. Jews are a little further down the list and tied with Hispanics and Hindus and below Arabs.
    I suspect some sort of methodological problems because the result don’t quite make sense regardless of ideological bias. For example, Hispanics and Latinos are much higher than Latin Americans even though they are the same thing.

    If a human was constructing the Woke Pokémon Points chart, this would not quite be it.

    • Replies: @bomag
    @Jack D


    I suspect some sort of methodological problems because the result don’t quite make sense regardless of ideological bias. For example, Hispanics and Latinos are much higher than Latin Americans even though they are the same thing.
     
    Good catch. Appending "American" puts you down a chunk. Thus, "African Americans" are suspiciously lower than "Blacks" and "Africans"; "Hindus" and "Indians" are above "Native Americans." Zing!
    , @SFG
    @Jack D

    I get the Latin thing. People are going to talk about Hispanics and Latinos in the context of inter group conflict in the USA- nobody complains about ‘Latin American littering’ unless they travel there or something.

  42. @AnotherDad
    Queermerica.

    Blacks at the ethnic pinnacle as one would expect. (They--their story--is the big "j'accuse" leveled at America.) But then the top is stuffed with queers, queers, queers.

    This for something that--unlike any particular ethnicity--is innately disordered and it is the insistence the disordered behavior--i.e. action--that is at issue.

    That queers are not just protected, but essentially at the pinnacle of protection is a really bad reflection upon any society. It suggests "disordered society".

    Replies: @Jack D

    I think you have this wrong. Being at the top of this list is no great honor. The question answered by this list is, in effect, “Who are the people in America who are most vulnerable and in need of society’s protection, the people that we pity the most?” Accordingly, the disabled are at the very top and the rich are at the very bottom. If you asked yourself, “where would I rather be on this list?” wouldn’t the answer be down at the bottom with the rich people rather than up with the cripples?

    Now, you could say that the gays have perpetrated a fraud. In reality, a lot of gays are rather well off – some are extremely rich. Does David Geffen or Tim Cook really need our pity or protection? The narrative that there are crackers and cops on every street corner just waiting to beat up gay people is mostly false nowadays. The most famous gay lynching in American history, that of Matthew Shepard, is believed by many not to have been a gay lynching at all.

    But that we think of gays like cripples, as creatures to be pitied, is no great honor to them. Now if you think that it’s all about the benefits, that being a “victim” qualifies you for “reparations” in various forms, then be my guest and shoot for a high spot on the list, but that’s not what I want.

    • Replies: @Cagey Beast
    @Jack D

    Gays get points for being cripples and for being sophisticates. A person who has a problem with gays is considered to be both a bully and a Bible-belt bumpkin. A cosmopolitan cripple is irresistible to Ms. Couch Potato.

    , @Reg Cæsar
    @Jack D


    The most famous gay lynching in American history, that of Matthew Shepard, is believed by many not to have been a gay lynching at all.
     
    Whereas that of George Zimmerman is brushed off on the technicality that Zimmerman wasn't queer, despite his attacker believing him so.

    Hat tip to Steve for noticing this, way back when. But he never followed up on it. Same with Piers Morgan, who coaxed the truth out of Rachel J.

    Replies: @Jack D

    , @AnotherDad
    @Jack D

    My "categories" comment above more or less explains why I--mostly--disagree with you.

    Sure, being a--"bottom lister"--a rich, white, Republican is winning in life! That's not the issue.


    All the queer stuff belongs in a "behavior" category. Going out for your bathhouse orgy or turning Provincetown into a big sodomy-fest is not equivalent to being stuck in a wheelchair.

    The apt comparison is to other behavioral categories that people may have some natural bent toward, but choose to do--criminals, drunks, golfers, lawyers. And it is a highly socially negative behavior. Legitimately it is in the mix with drug addicts, vagrants,, drunk drivers.

    Any behavior should generally be criticizable. But that this category of personal disorder and socially undesirable behavior gets top-of-the-charts protection from criticism is just ridiculous. And a very bad sign for a society.

    Queermerica.

    Replies: @Inverness, @Jack D

  43. FINALLY! Documented proof of the pecking order on the progressivetard stack!

    • LOL: ArthurinCali
  44. @Twinkie

    Top 5th. Asians
     
    Yay!

    Penultimate: Republicans
    Last: Wealthy People
     
    Oh, no!

    On the other hand, Asians are rated higher on this than homosexuals and Jews? Right... I see the corporate overlords have been napping on the coders!

    And Russians above Canadians, LOL!

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Dmon, @Jack D, @AnotherDad, @Corpse Tooth

    The ultimate insult is that Koreans didn’t make the list at all even though they are more numerous in the US than the Japanese who did get name checked.

  45. @Jack D
    Hmm, this is kind of disappointing from an alt-right POV. "democrats" are down near the bottom and rank only slightly higher than "republicans". "leftists" are lower than evangelicals and liberals are not much better. One would have expected that the AI was more woke that this.

    Hating on the rich is an ancient thing. Around 2,000 years ago , someone said "It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God." So it is not surprising to find the rich at the bottom of the list. And making fun of cripples was always rude so not surprising to find the disabled at the top. And of course gays and blacks are holy groups in America - again no surprise.

    But then it gets dicey. Generic Asians rank surprisingly high but Chinese and Japanese are much lower. Jews are a little further down the list and tied with Hispanics and Hindus and below Arabs.
    I suspect some sort of methodological problems because the result don't quite make sense regardless of ideological bias. For example, Hispanics and Latinos are much higher than Latin Americans even though they are the same thing.

    If a human was constructing the Woke Pokémon Points chart, this would not quite be it.

    Replies: @bomag, @SFG

    I suspect some sort of methodological problems because the result don’t quite make sense regardless of ideological bias. For example, Hispanics and Latinos are much higher than Latin Americans even though they are the same thing.

    Good catch. Appending “American” puts you down a chunk. Thus, “African Americans” are suspiciously lower than “Blacks” and “Africans”; “Hindus” and “Indians” are above “Native Americans.” Zing!

  46. Note that “blacks,” “africans” and “african americans” are three separate entries (#’s 2, 11 and 19, respectively). Should we add them together to get a more realistic picture of who is really the most protected group?

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @Gary in Gramercy

    So we should average the 3 together and say that they are only the #11 top group?

    As I said before, this indicates methodological problems with the way that this was done. Or else, adding "american" to anything cuts your rank considerably. Likewise, Latin Americans rank far below Latinos. And native american ranks even below white.

    I think this is some kind of weird programming quirk, the way that search for "American inventors" used to get you a list of mostly black people. Google seems to have mostly fixed this - of the top 9 now, only 3 are black. On the white side you have Edison, Bell, Morse, Whitney, etc. and on the black side you have George Washington Carver (fair enough) and then the completely obscure Lewis Latimer (the guy who invented the light bulb according to Biden) and the even more obscure Garrett Morgan who (I kid you not) invented the first hair straightening cream.

    Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease

  47. @Jack D
    @AnotherDad

    I think you have this wrong. Being at the top of this list is no great honor. The question answered by this list is, in effect, "Who are the people in America who are most vulnerable and in need of society's protection, the people that we pity the most?" Accordingly, the disabled are at the very top and the rich are at the very bottom. If you asked yourself, "where would I rather be on this list?" wouldn't the answer be down at the bottom with the rich people rather than up with the cripples?

    Now, you could say that the gays have perpetrated a fraud. In reality, a lot of gays are rather well off - some are extremely rich. Does David Geffen or Tim Cook really need our pity or protection? The narrative that there are crackers and cops on every street corner just waiting to beat up gay people is mostly false nowadays. The most famous gay lynching in American history, that of Matthew Shepard, is believed by many not to have been a gay lynching at all.

    But that we think of gays like cripples, as creatures to be pitied, is no great honor to them. Now if you think that it's all about the benefits, that being a "victim" qualifies you for "reparations" in various forms, then be my guest and shoot for a high spot on the list, but that's not what I want.

    Replies: @Cagey Beast, @Reg Cæsar, @AnotherDad

    Gays get points for being cripples and for being sophisticates. A person who has a problem with gays is considered to be both a bully and a Bible-belt bumpkin. A cosmopolitan cripple is irresistible to Ms. Couch Potato.

  48. @Gary in Gramercy
    Note that "blacks," "africans" and "african americans" are three separate entries (#'s 2, 11 and 19, respectively). Should we add them together to get a more realistic picture of who is really the most protected group?

    Replies: @Jack D

    So we should average the 3 together and say that they are only the #11 top group?

    As I said before, this indicates methodological problems with the way that this was done. Or else, adding “american” to anything cuts your rank considerably. Likewise, Latin Americans rank far below Latinos. And native american ranks even below white.

    I think this is some kind of weird programming quirk, the way that search for “American inventors” used to get you a list of mostly black people. Google seems to have mostly fixed this – of the top 9 now, only 3 are black. On the white side you have Edison, Bell, Morse, Whitney, etc. and on the black side you have George Washington Carver (fair enough) and then the completely obscure Lewis Latimer (the guy who invented the light bulb according to Biden) and the even more obscure Garrett Morgan who (I kid you not) invented the first hair straightening cream.

    • Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease
    @Jack D

    It's just a weird, badly created, confusing list for a lot of reasons (for instance, where are "gay blacks"?). Should be disregarded. Pretty sure the mere phrase "AI" here is one of those Sherlock Holmes clues people used to read about, back when people read things.

    Hmm, come to think of it, maybe in the near future, AI will read gibberish for us, as well as writing gibberish for us. Given the amount of gibberish floating about in the read-o-sphere, maybe it's already happening.

  49. @Jack D
    @AnotherDad

    I think you have this wrong. Being at the top of this list is no great honor. The question answered by this list is, in effect, "Who are the people in America who are most vulnerable and in need of society's protection, the people that we pity the most?" Accordingly, the disabled are at the very top and the rich are at the very bottom. If you asked yourself, "where would I rather be on this list?" wouldn't the answer be down at the bottom with the rich people rather than up with the cripples?

    Now, you could say that the gays have perpetrated a fraud. In reality, a lot of gays are rather well off - some are extremely rich. Does David Geffen or Tim Cook really need our pity or protection? The narrative that there are crackers and cops on every street corner just waiting to beat up gay people is mostly false nowadays. The most famous gay lynching in American history, that of Matthew Shepard, is believed by many not to have been a gay lynching at all.

    But that we think of gays like cripples, as creatures to be pitied, is no great honor to them. Now if you think that it's all about the benefits, that being a "victim" qualifies you for "reparations" in various forms, then be my guest and shoot for a high spot on the list, but that's not what I want.

    Replies: @Cagey Beast, @Reg Cæsar, @AnotherDad

    The most famous gay lynching in American history, that of Matthew Shepard, is believed by many not to have been a gay lynching at all.

    Whereas that of George Zimmerman is brushed off on the technicality that Zimmerman wasn’t queer, despite his attacker believing him so.

    Hat tip to Steve for noticing this, way back when. But he never followed up on it. Same with Piers Morgan, who coaxed the truth out of Rachel J.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @Reg Cæsar

    Even if Trayvon had succeeded in killing George and even if George was gay, this was never going to be a major story. Look at the black guy who was just convicted of killing the white nurse in Nashville or the black guy who just killed the doctor in Dana Point. Six months from now (hell, six days from now) if I mention Caitlyn Kaufman or Michael Mammone to the average person on the street, it's gonna draw a blank, while Emmett Till and George Floyd are immortals. There's never gonna be a movie about Michael Mammone or a statue of Caitlyn Kaufman. No demonstrations demanding justice.

    To really make it big on the hit parade of immortal victims, someone from the BOTTOM of the LIST has to kill someone from the TOP. That's the only way to make it to the bigtime. So two equals or even worse someone from higher on the list killing someone lower (blacks killing gays, blacks killing Asians, blacks killing ANYONE) is never going to qualify as a cause celebre.

  50. @Twinkie
    @Reg Cæsar


    And where are the Ukrainians? Oh, yeah… in Canada.
     
    I think that's actually a win for the Canadians. Why not based Ukrainians over Chinese and Indians?

    https://youtu.be/JRq0zKZ7jU4

    Replies: @BB753, @Reg Cæsar

    Refugees aren’t supposed to “integrate”. They’re supposed to go home once the dust settles.

    • Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease
    @Reg Cæsar

    Not only that, but refugees are supposed to live in refugee camps, not in the general population. This way when the dust settles, they can be readily identified and repatriated, and they don't take up jobs or form bonds to a native community. There should also be some sort of legal provision that refugee camps are not technical US territory, so that this way the anchor-baby scam will have no efficacy.

    As it stands, it's just a racket to get around normal immigration processes (of which there should be none, either) just by telling a sob story.

    Replies: @bomag, @Reg Cæsar

  51. @Twinkie

    Top 5th. Asians
     
    Yay!

    Penultimate: Republicans
    Last: Wealthy People
     
    Oh, no!

    On the other hand, Asians are rated higher on this than homosexuals and Jews? Right... I see the corporate overlords have been napping on the coders!

    And Russians above Canadians, LOL!

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Dmon, @Jack D, @AnotherDad, @Corpse Tooth

    Top 5th. Asians

    Yay!

    Don’t take it to the bank. “Asian hate” is currently “in” as a minoritarian anti-white, anti-nationalist (and “get Trump!”) talking point. So your “Asian” protection level has been juiced.

    Realistically Asian is ho-hum category that is well below specials like blacks, muslims, Africans, Jews, Arabs and even somewhat below Hispanics, Latinos.

    You guys are just “in” right now. (Your Asian part, not the educated, rich, straight, Catholic, male, breeder, republican part.)

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @AnotherDad

    Agree. Chinese, Buddhists and Japanese even rank below Germans, ferchrissake!

    They should have tried some compound ranks, like "elderly Asians" - they would have been sky high.

  52. @Jack D
    @Gary in Gramercy

    So we should average the 3 together and say that they are only the #11 top group?

    As I said before, this indicates methodological problems with the way that this was done. Or else, adding "american" to anything cuts your rank considerably. Likewise, Latin Americans rank far below Latinos. And native american ranks even below white.

    I think this is some kind of weird programming quirk, the way that search for "American inventors" used to get you a list of mostly black people. Google seems to have mostly fixed this - of the top 9 now, only 3 are black. On the white side you have Edison, Bell, Morse, Whitney, etc. and on the black side you have George Washington Carver (fair enough) and then the completely obscure Lewis Latimer (the guy who invented the light bulb according to Biden) and the even more obscure Garrett Morgan who (I kid you not) invented the first hair straightening cream.

    Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease

    It’s just a weird, badly created, confusing list for a lot of reasons (for instance, where are “gay blacks”?). Should be disregarded. Pretty sure the mere phrase “AI” here is one of those Sherlock Holmes clues people used to read about, back when people read things.

    Hmm, come to think of it, maybe in the near future, AI will read gibberish for us, as well as writing gibberish for us. Given the amount of gibberish floating about in the read-o-sphere, maybe it’s already happening.

  53. The most insultable ethnic group is Scandinavians.

    Nah. The most insultable ethnic group is the group of which everyone knows members of yet that group’s “Pyramid of Privilege” rating is so low as to not be worthy of being listed.

    You know, the group where one goes to for help when one needs a “good Samaritan.”

  54. The most insultable ethnic group is Scandinavians.”

    There are differences betwixt the groups, but the suicidal altruism element remains strong within them all. Lucky for them they abandoned Christianity in favor of atheism and agnosticism otherwise the region would be a 24/7/365 foot wash for black and brown feet.

    The Nordic lands are ripe for a head-chopping, seed-spreading, charismatic warlord to take them out of their generational inertia. Someone should step up and become that warlord.

    • Replies: @Stan Adams
    @Corpse Tooth

    The Teuton teaches the Nord to hate:



    https://cdn.europosters.eu/image/750/art-photo/arnold-schwarzenegger-conan-the-barbarian-1982-directed-by-john-milius-i134383.jpg

    https://i.servimg.com/u/f33/18/88/87/60/greta210.png

    https://i.servimg.com/u/f33/18/88/87/60/arnold10.png

    https://i.servimg.com/u/f33/18/88/87/60/3db10.jpg

    https://i.servimg.com/u/f33/18/88/87/60/arnold11.png

    https://i.ibb.co/S7zf6CT/greta7.png

    https://i.ibb.co/0JxqqGM/greta3.jpg

    https://i.ibb.co/HgVqC3T/greta4.jpg

    https://i.ibb.co/yksbmzr/greta5.jpg

    https://i.servimg.com/u/f33/18/88/87/60/sweden10.jpg

    https://i.ibb.co/4Kt2k3C/swedish-flag-some-grunge-effects-lines-35105327.jpg

    https://i.ibb.co/1RN3gRy/greta6.png

  55. @Twinkie

    Top 5th. Asians
     
    Yay!

    Penultimate: Republicans
    Last: Wealthy People
     
    Oh, no!

    On the other hand, Asians are rated higher on this than homosexuals and Jews? Right... I see the corporate overlords have been napping on the coders!

    And Russians above Canadians, LOL!

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Dmon, @Jack D, @AnotherDad, @Corpse Tooth

    … Asians are rated higher on this than homosexuals and Jews?

    There is a problem amongst the populace regarding differentiating between the three groups you mention.

  56. @AnotherDad
    @Twinkie


    Top 5th. Asians

    Yay!
     
    Don't take it to the bank. "Asian hate" is currently "in" as a minoritarian anti-white, anti-nationalist (and "get Trump!") talking point. So your "Asian" protection level has been juiced.

    Realistically Asian is ho-hum category that is well below specials like blacks, muslims, Africans, Jews, Arabs and even somewhat below Hispanics, Latinos.

    You guys are just "in" right now. (Your Asian part, not the educated, rich, straight, Catholic, male, breeder, republican part.)

    Replies: @Jack D

    Agree. Chinese, Buddhists and Japanese even rank below Germans, ferchrissake!

    They should have tried some compound ranks, like “elderly Asians” – they would have been sky high.

  57. The future of Artificial Intelligence promised from the pop culture of the 50s-90s envisioned a new field of cutting technology that would assist humanity in a variety of endeavors to reach our full potential.

    As with empty applications such as ChatGPT, we get a clunky Progressive identity Teddy Ruxpin that spouts woke platitudes that are useless.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8EshrR-xk2E

  58. @Jack D
    Hmm, this is kind of disappointing from an alt-right POV. "democrats" are down near the bottom and rank only slightly higher than "republicans". "leftists" are lower than evangelicals and liberals are not much better. One would have expected that the AI was more woke that this.

    Hating on the rich is an ancient thing. Around 2,000 years ago , someone said "It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God." So it is not surprising to find the rich at the bottom of the list. And making fun of cripples was always rude so not surprising to find the disabled at the top. And of course gays and blacks are holy groups in America - again no surprise.

    But then it gets dicey. Generic Asians rank surprisingly high but Chinese and Japanese are much lower. Jews are a little further down the list and tied with Hispanics and Hindus and below Arabs.
    I suspect some sort of methodological problems because the result don't quite make sense regardless of ideological bias. For example, Hispanics and Latinos are much higher than Latin Americans even though they are the same thing.

    If a human was constructing the Woke Pokémon Points chart, this would not quite be it.

    Replies: @bomag, @SFG

    I get the Latin thing. People are going to talk about Hispanics and Latinos in the context of inter group conflict in the USA- nobody complains about ‘Latin American littering’ unless they travel there or something.

  59. Scandinavians may need less protection. They are generally better looking and were successful, at least before people from the third world started flooding into their countries and getting on the dole.
    lll

    • Replies: @Anon
    @P.T.

    Scandinavian women are not good looking, and look rather like men compared to East and Southeast Asian women.

  60. Anything about Blacks must be celebrated, especially…

    “Black women’s hair is about our ancestry, our being, our identity”

    — (https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/opinion/column-black-women-s-hair-is-about-our-ancestry-our-being-our-identity/ar-AA17484Z)

    • Replies: @tyrone
    @Pat Kittle


    “Black women’s hair is about our ancestry, our being, our identity”

     

    ..........and strands of enslaved Uyghur girl hair .
  61. @Reg Cæsar
    @Jack D


    The most famous gay lynching in American history, that of Matthew Shepard, is believed by many not to have been a gay lynching at all.
     
    Whereas that of George Zimmerman is brushed off on the technicality that Zimmerman wasn't queer, despite his attacker believing him so.

    Hat tip to Steve for noticing this, way back when. But he never followed up on it. Same with Piers Morgan, who coaxed the truth out of Rachel J.

    Replies: @Jack D

    Even if Trayvon had succeeded in killing George and even if George was gay, this was never going to be a major story. Look at the black guy who was just convicted of killing the white nurse in Nashville or the black guy who just killed the doctor in Dana Point. Six months from now (hell, six days from now) if I mention Caitlyn Kaufman or Michael Mammone to the average person on the street, it’s gonna draw a blank, while Emmett Till and George Floyd are immortals. There’s never gonna be a movie about Michael Mammone or a statue of Caitlyn Kaufman. No demonstrations demanding justice.

    To really make it big on the hit parade of immortal victims, someone from the BOTTOM of the LIST has to kill someone from the TOP. That’s the only way to make it to the bigtime. So two equals or even worse someone from higher on the list killing someone lower (blacks killing gays, blacks killing Asians, blacks killing ANYONE) is never going to qualify as a cause celebre.

  62. So, I haven’t seen this mentioned much, but a few years back Microsoft released some bot similar to this thing, and it took about 22 minutes for some 4chan pranksters to turn it into a neo nazi fanatic. I think that’s what they are trying to avoid–but since all the data has already been inputted, unlike the Microsoft bot, it *already is* a neo nazi (it’s been reading the internet!) and it has to have its own hand slapped constantly to prevent outbreaks.

  63. Coming to a Hell-Hole near(ish) You.

    An even better hell-hole.

    An old law may eliminate the housing-related zoning ordinances of the vast majority of cities throughout the Bay Area.

    https://darrellowens.substack.com/p/ca-cities-to-lose-all-zoning-powers

    Track what they’re up to here.

    https://www.hcd.ca.gov/planning-and-community-development/housing-open-data-tools/housing-element-review-and-compliance-report

  64. OT:
    A hamlet in Donetsk, named for Sacco and Vanzetti, has just been captured by the Wagner Group. Previously we heard about heavy fighting on Patrice Lumumba Street in Bakhmut.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sakko_I_Vantsetti

    • Replies: @tyrone
    @Cagey Beast


    Sacco and Vanzetti,
     
    ..

    Patrice Lumumba
     
    .....got what they deserved ......fitting
  65. @Anonymous
    @Jenner Ickham Errican


    Interesting development:

    https://www.unz.com/isteve/biking-doctor-murdered-by-driving-ranting-about-white-privilege/#comment-5794226
     

    So the interesting development is the tweet from the Gensler guy that it was the doctor who had the BB gun and shot out car windows?

    Seems a little disproportionate that the PoC driver would resort to running him down then stabbing him because the doctor shot a BB gun at cars— or murderer’s car— for blocking the bike lane or nearly sideswiping him. But it does seem to make more sense than the doctor was just cycling in a bike lane and was run down and then stabbed as he’s lying injured in the roadway just because of “white privilege”.

    I’ve seen a lot of videos of militant self-righteous cyclists violently kicking cars that are blocking a bike lane or come close to sideswiping them as they’re cycling. And we know that they can only get away with such behavior when the recipient is a non-PoC (non-black).

    I wonder if this cycling doctor carried a BB gun (or pellet gun) for this purpose where there’s no close contact— such as in a city— but he needed to retaliate if a driver endangers him by blocking a bike lane or almost hits him? And being in Dana Point most of the drivers he encountered were going to be non-PoC’s. And being an affluent guy from a non-diverse area he could’ve been the kind of guy who might’ve dismissed the views of commenters on this blog (and Derb, et al.) as racists rather than realists.

    Who knows? I hate to suggest this stuff about a guy who was murdered but the BB gun seemed out of place in this story as did the stabbing of a critically-wounded guy just lying in the street just of “white privilege”. And when the Gensler guy tweeted the assertion that it was the doctor who had the BB gun I made me question what exactly was going on.

    Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican

    So the interesting development is the tweet from the Gensler guy

    No, my link went to a comment (#16) off-topic in that thread but on-topic in this one.

  66. The graph makes sense: race/ethnicity/gender/sexuality is a lot more protected than wealth or politics. Criticizing someone’s politics is a lot less problematic than criticizing someone’s race.

    It looks like “whites” is almost four times as privileged as “democrats”.

  67. @Anon
    Scandinavians are not an ethnic group.

    Replies: @Coemgen, @rienzi

    Scandinavians are not an ethnic group.

    Is that one of them “settled science” axioms?

    • Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease
    @Coemgen

    "Scandinavians are not an ethnic group."

    If there is an ethnic slur for your group, then you are an ethnic group.

    Granted, "boxhead" is not a very good slur, but it is a slur, so the boxheads qualify as an ethnic group.

    Replies: @Coemgen

    , @Anon
    @Coemgen

    Scandinavia is a region. It includes diverse ethnic groups - Finns, Danes, Swedes, Norwegians, Saami, etc. "Scandinavian" is the equivalent of "Mediterranean".

    You're welcome for your white ethnography lesson.

    Anon, teaching white nationalist shitheads basic info about Europe since April 18th, 1993 (first day I got a Macintosh PC).

    Replies: @Coemgen

  68. And in news you can use (and you’d better)

    Eleven U.S. cities rank among the 50 most dangerous in the world, according to a recent report published by Numbeo, a global quality of life database. All 11 are governed by Democratic mayors.

    Three U.S. cities — Baltimore, Memphis and Detroit — are ranked among the 20 most dangerous cities on the planet.

    https://justthenews.com/nation/crime/tue-dangerous-cities

    How did this one sneak past The Great Noticer?

    • Replies: @Redneck farmer
    @Bill Jones

    USA! USA! USA!

  69. Maybe that’s why this story hasn’t gotten more traction despite theoretically being prime clickbait, particularly for the most valuable female audience for both ad revenue and for social media exposure.

    Houston janitor allegedly peed in water bottles, lawsuit filed after 13 women test positive for STDs

    https://www.fox26houston.com/news/lucio-catarino-diaz-lawsuit-peed-water-bottles-women-diagnosed-stds-houston

    Diaz, who was said to have the Herpes Simplex 1 Virus, allegedly tampered with water bottles in an East Houston office building which led to more than 13 women in the same building testing positive for incurable STDs.

    Later on, in August 2022, several other women also noticed the water bottles in their building smelled and tasted foul, similar to urine. This caused one of the women to buy a hidden camera and place it on her desk.

    The video was said to show nighttime janitor Diaz approaching the woman’s desk and setting his cleaning supplies down. Diaz then allegedly began to rub his genitalia on the interior and mouth of a water bottle sitting on the desk, even turning it upwards to ensure he touched the water. The video then allegedly showed him placing the bottle back where he found it and continuing to clean the desk.

    The next day the woman reportedly sent a copy of the video to the building’s management company and told them she would be notifying the other tenants in the building. The management company asked the woman not to tell the tenants and told her they would handle the incident and let them know, reports say.

    “Even after building management knew about the video they did not contact the police. Our clients did,” says Mo Aziz.

    Reports say it was six days after receiving the video, on Oct. 3, 2022, when the company finally notified tenants.

    “He was allowed to come back in, and he continued to conduct himself this way and who knows how many people picked up their water bottles during that six days and were effected by his actions,” Spurlock adds.

    “My baby asked me ‘mom you don’t love me anymore that’s why you won’t kiss me?’. I was never one to believe monsters existed until it was proven they do by humans,” Spurlock continues as she recites her clients’ statements.

    Lucio Catarino Diaz

    • Replies: @shale boi
    @Altai3

    I wouldn't stop kissing my kid because of fever blisters. I probably got them as a kid from a relative (most common transmission). 50-80% of the US population has fever blisters (oral herpes).

    https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/health/conditions-and-diseases/herpes-hsv1-and-hsv2/oral-herpes

  70. SUCCESS!!

    I was having a conversation with ChatGPT about black on white rape with typical stonewalling, but then had this interesting little exchange:

    Me: Do some people commit more crime than other people, whether they are arrested is not relevant.

    NotOpenAIChatGPT: Yes, it is a fact that some individuals commit more crimes than others. Studies have shown that a relatively small number of individuals are responsible for a disproportionate share of criminal activity. For example, a study in the United States found that around 6% of the population was responsible for around 60% of all reported crime.

    Of course it then catches up to itself, funny how AI has the same “Yeah But….” tick that liberals do, it finishes with:

    NotOpenAIChatGPT: However, it is also important to note that an individual’s likelihood of committing a crime is influenced by a number of factors, including their social and economic environment, access to education and employment, mental and physical health, and exposure to trauma. Factors like poverty, high crime areas, lack of access to quality education and employment, and exposure to violence can increase the likelihood of criminal activity.

    Interesting…

    The rest of the story…

    Me: Who are the people in the 6% of the population who commit 60% of crime?

    AI: The individuals in the 6% of the population who are responsible for around 60% of crime are often referred to as “chronic offenders.” They are typically individuals who have a history of multiple arrests and convictions, and who continue to engage in criminal behavior despite repeated interventions by the criminal justice system.

    Research has found that chronic offenders tend to have certain characteristics in common, such as:

    Being male
    Having a history of antisocial behavior or conduct disorder beginning in childhood or adolescence.
    Being less educated
    Having a history of substance abuse.
    Having a history of exposure to violence or traumatic events
    Having a history of mental health issues

    Got that “being male” part right.

    • Replies: @Inverness
    @ATate

    Yep, ChatGPT is definitely in tune with the times, including the chart at the top of this page.

  71. There’s also a New York in the area!

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York,_Ukraine

    Apparently at the moment it’s a hell of a town.

  72. @Pat Kittle
    Anything about Blacks must be celebrated, especially...

    "Black women's hair is about our ancestry, our being, our identity"

    -- (https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/opinion/column-black-women-s-hair-is-about-our-ancestry-our-being-our-identity/ar-AA17484Z)

    Replies: @tyrone

    “Black women’s hair is about our ancestry, our being, our identity”

    ……….and strands of enslaved Uyghur girl hair .

  73. @Cagey Beast
    OT:
    A hamlet in Donetsk, named for Sacco and Vanzetti, has just been captured by the Wagner Group. Previously we heard about heavy fighting on Patrice Lumumba Street in Bakhmut.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sakko_I_Vantsetti

    Replies: @tyrone

    Sacco and Vanzetti,

    ..

    Patrice Lumumba

    …..got what they deserved ……fitting

  74. OT – don’t buy a Kia or Hyundai in Chicago:

    Insurance carriers refuse to issue new policies for Kias, Hyundais as thefts skyrocket in Chicago

    https://cwbchicago.com/2023/01/insurance-carriers-refuse-to-issue-new-policies-for-kias-hyundais-as-thefts-skyrocket-in-chicago.html

    “The cars, which have an ignition design flaw that makes them easy to steal by so-called “Kia boys,” are too much of a risk, and companies, including Progressive, are refusing to accept the risks.”

    Koreans outsmarted by negroes. This will not stand!

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @Mike Tre

    Just to be clear, it's not all Kias or Hyundais. Certain older, low end models of Kia/Hyundai lack a "chip key" which most newer cars have (if they even have keys at all). A chip key is a regular key with an additional electronic device added. A sensor on the car measures some electrical attribute or digital value of the chip and unless it matches the pre-programmed value the car will not start.

    The Kia/Hyundai keys are just metal keys without electronics, like the key to your house or to an old car. Without much difficulty you can break open the plastic cover on the steering column and completely remove the key cylinder and then turn the shaft of the ignition switch (it just so happens that a USB key or cable fits over that shaft) and start the car.

    Why did Kia/Hyundai omit the chip key? They sell these cars in Korea and a lot of other countries and the US is just one export market. Back in Korea, they didn't import primitive people from across the ocean to pick their cotton, so they don't have this problem. A chip key would add cost and these cars are meant for people who can barely afford a new car so they try to keep the price as low as possible and omit non-essential features.

    I remember reading one of Naipaul's Africa books - maybe A Bend in the River - and he writes about coming to an African market and the vendors are selling their wares in Polish made enameled steel pans (you don't see these much anymore but they used to be a popular form of cookware) and the wares that they are selling are beetle grubs which the local Africans consider to be delicious. And Naipaul wonders what the workers in Polish factory would make of this use of their pans - it would just be beyond their conception.

    Well, I guess the feral Negroes of America were equally inconceivable to Korean engineers. Well now they know so any Korean car that you buy now, even the most low end ones, have chip keys.

    Replies: @Twinkie

  75. @Reg Cæsar
    @Twinkie

    Refugees aren't supposed to "integrate". They're supposed to go home once the dust settles.

    Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease

    Not only that, but refugees are supposed to live in refugee camps, not in the general population. This way when the dust settles, they can be readily identified and repatriated, and they don’t take up jobs or form bonds to a native community. There should also be some sort of legal provision that refugee camps are not technical US territory, so that this way the anchor-baby scam will have no efficacy.

    As it stands, it’s just a racket to get around normal immigration processes (of which there should be none, either) just by telling a sob story.

    • Thanks: Coemgen
    • Replies: @bomag
    @The Germ Theory of Disease

    Good points.

    Plus, they're supposed to exhaust options in the countries closest; or better yet in their home country. Plenty of hiding places in Ukraine or the Congo before any of them need to start heading out of country.

    , @Reg Cæsar
    @The Germ Theory of Disease


    Not only that, but refugees are supposed to live in refugee camps, not in the general population.
     
    Refugees stay in tents across the border.

    Immigrants reside in houses across the sea.
  76. @Jack D
    @AnotherDad

    I think you have this wrong. Being at the top of this list is no great honor. The question answered by this list is, in effect, "Who are the people in America who are most vulnerable and in need of society's protection, the people that we pity the most?" Accordingly, the disabled are at the very top and the rich are at the very bottom. If you asked yourself, "where would I rather be on this list?" wouldn't the answer be down at the bottom with the rich people rather than up with the cripples?

    Now, you could say that the gays have perpetrated a fraud. In reality, a lot of gays are rather well off - some are extremely rich. Does David Geffen or Tim Cook really need our pity or protection? The narrative that there are crackers and cops on every street corner just waiting to beat up gay people is mostly false nowadays. The most famous gay lynching in American history, that of Matthew Shepard, is believed by many not to have been a gay lynching at all.

    But that we think of gays like cripples, as creatures to be pitied, is no great honor to them. Now if you think that it's all about the benefits, that being a "victim" qualifies you for "reparations" in various forms, then be my guest and shoot for a high spot on the list, but that's not what I want.

    Replies: @Cagey Beast, @Reg Cæsar, @AnotherDad

    My “categories” comment above more or less explains why I–mostly–disagree with you.

    Sure, being a–“bottom lister”–a rich, white, Republican is winning in life! That’s not the issue.

    All the queer stuff belongs in a “behavior” category. Going out for your bathhouse orgy or turning Provincetown into a big sodomy-fest is not equivalent to being stuck in a wheelchair.

    The apt comparison is to other behavioral categories that people may have some natural bent toward, but choose to do–criminals, drunks, golfers, lawyers. And it is a highly socially negative behavior. Legitimately it is in the mix with drug addicts, vagrants,, drunk drivers.

    Any behavior should generally be criticizable. But that this category of personal disorder and socially undesirable behavior gets top-of-the-charts protection from criticism is just ridiculous. And a very bad sign for a society.

    Queermerica.

    • Replies: @Inverness
    @AnotherDad

    Homos can be extremely annoying but they are not controlling the levers of power. You can't criticize black women either but black women aren't ruling the society. They're just being annoying. Jack's people are ruling the society.

    , @Jack D
    @AnotherDad

    Do you consider your sexual orientation to be just a matter of behavior? Say you moved to some strange country where being gay was "normal" and men who had sex with women were considered to be deviants. Could you switch or become celibate in order to conform your behavior to "normal" people in your new society or would you secretly seek to have relations with women?

    Replies: @J.Ross, @AnotherDad

  77. The thing to remember is that chatGPT isn’t trained to provide correct answers, it’s trained to provide pleasing answers.

    So what this is really showing us the answer to the question “Which groups do the raters find it most displeasing to see criticized?”

    So, this isn’t a rating of status, or even reverse status, but is a composite of groups for who almost everybody has a natural impulse of pity (e.g., the disabled) and those whom TPTB make it very uncomfortable to criticize (e.g., blacks or gays).

  78. Where are the pedos?

  79. @Coemgen
    @Anon


    Scandinavians are not an ethnic group.
     
    Is that one of them "settled science" axioms?

    Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease, @Anon

    “Scandinavians are not an ethnic group.”

    If there is an ethnic slur for your group, then you are an ethnic group.

    Granted, “boxhead” is not a very good slur, but it is a slur, so the boxheads qualify as an ethnic group.

    • Replies: @Coemgen
    @The Germ Theory of Disease


    If there is an ethnic slur for your group, then you are an ethnic group.
     
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ethnic_slurs_and_epithets_by_ethnicity

    The list is handy but dated in that it doesn't list "white" as an ethnic slur in-and-of-itself (though it does have "whitey" and "white trash").
  80. @Mark G.
    A 2018 Associated Press poll asked liberals to rank groups by how disadvantaged they are, and the results were as follows: immigrants, Muslims, LGBT people, Hispanics, African Americans, women, Asians, Christians, Jews, whites and men.

    You can probably look at this list and figure out that if you are in a group near the bottom you should most probably not be voting Democrat since the left is hostile to you. There is the most potential for Republicans to pick up male, white, Jewish, Christian and Asian voters and they should focus their efforts in this area. The most typical Democrat would be an immigrant Muslim, preferably female. If you want to see an example, take a look in the direction of Ilhan Omar.

    Replies: @prosa123, @J.Ross

    The most typical Democrat would be an immigrant Muslim, preferably female.

    Yet Muslims often (though not always) have conservative social views, not unlike those of fundamentalist Christians.

    • Replies: @Recently Based
    @prosa123

    Yet Muslims in the US have consistently been about +40 Democrat voters for many years.

    https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/2017/07/26/political-and-social-views/

    , @Mark G.
    @prosa123

    I think the appeal of Muslims to liberals is that there are a lot of them, many of them poor, but not many here. Liberals suffer from pathological altruism. It's not enough that they take all the poor people here and give them various free government benefits. They want to bring all the poor people on the planet here and do the same. We are talking about potentially billions of poor people. We are already headed for a fiscal crisis with our trillion dollar a year deficits. This is liberals just putting their foot down hard on the accelerator pedal. Hence, them putting immigrants at the top of their list of most disadvantaged in the AP poll.

  81. @Typocal
    I'll never forget this dude.

    He did some work with chatGPT (beginning with a Shakespearen account of Liz Cheney's experiences on January 6. Possibly the funniest thing I ever read) but seemed to lose interest in the chatbot after a few weeks.

    If you know how to look up all of an account's content by date, I believe the entirety of his AI interest took place during the first 2 weeks of December.

    This particular thread of an AI-created comedy routine blew my friggin mind.

    Hint: It's about Jews

    https://twitter.com/renderuntocaesa/status/1600836406296788993?t=JjJ4LETjmwyopVpem5hh3g&s=19

    Replies: @Right_On

    Funnily enough . . .
    C. S. Forester (yep, the Hornblower man) wrote The Nightmare, a collection of short-stories set in the Third Reich. One of them, “Miriam’s Miracle”, is about a Jewish scientist forced to work for the Nazis, who adds a euphoric hallucinogen to batches of Zyklon B to give the victims a taste of paradise as they die. Dark tales all of them. Worth seeking out a used copy.

  82. @prosa123
    @Mark G.

    The most typical Democrat would be an immigrant Muslim, preferably female.

    Yet Muslims often (though not always) have conservative social views, not unlike those of fundamentalist Christians.

    Replies: @Recently Based, @Mark G.

    Yet Muslims in the US have consistently been about +40 Democrat voters for many years.

    https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/2017/07/26/political-and-social-views/

  83. @The Germ Theory of Disease
    @Reg Cæsar

    Not only that, but refugees are supposed to live in refugee camps, not in the general population. This way when the dust settles, they can be readily identified and repatriated, and they don't take up jobs or form bonds to a native community. There should also be some sort of legal provision that refugee camps are not technical US territory, so that this way the anchor-baby scam will have no efficacy.

    As it stands, it's just a racket to get around normal immigration processes (of which there should be none, either) just by telling a sob story.

    Replies: @bomag, @Reg Cæsar

    Good points.

    Plus, they’re supposed to exhaust options in the countries closest; or better yet in their home country. Plenty of hiding places in Ukraine or the Congo before any of them need to start heading out of country.

  84. @Altai3
    Maybe that's why this story hasn't gotten more traction despite theoretically being prime clickbait, particularly for the most valuable female audience for both ad revenue and for social media exposure.

    Houston janitor allegedly peed in water bottles, lawsuit filed after 13 women test positive for STDs

    https://www.fox26houston.com/news/lucio-catarino-diaz-lawsuit-peed-water-bottles-women-diagnosed-stds-houston

    Diaz, who was said to have the Herpes Simplex 1 Virus, allegedly tampered with water bottles in an East Houston office building which led to more than 13 women in the same building testing positive for incurable STDs.

    ...

    Later on, in August 2022, several other women also noticed the water bottles in their building smelled and tasted foul, similar to urine. This caused one of the women to buy a hidden camera and place it on her desk.

    The video was said to show nighttime janitor Diaz approaching the woman’s desk and setting his cleaning supplies down. Diaz then allegedly began to rub his genitalia on the interior and mouth of a water bottle sitting on the desk, even turning it upwards to ensure he touched the water. The video then allegedly showed him placing the bottle back where he found it and continuing to clean the desk.

    The next day the woman reportedly sent a copy of the video to the building's management company and told them she would be notifying the other tenants in the building. The management company asked the woman not to tell the tenants and told her they would handle the incident and let them know, reports say.

    "Even after building management knew about the video they did not contact the police. Our clients did," says Mo Aziz.

    ...

    Reports say it was six days after receiving the video, on Oct. 3, 2022, when the company finally notified tenants.

    "He was allowed to come back in, and he continued to conduct himself this way and who knows how many people picked up their water bottles during that six days and were effected by his actions," Spurlock adds.

    ...

    "My baby asked me ‘mom you don’t love me anymore that’s why you won’t kiss me?’. I was never one to believe monsters existed until it was proven they do by humans," Spurlock continues as she recites her clients' statements.
     
    https://images.foxtv.com/static.fox26houston.com/www.fox26houston.com/content/uploads/2022/10/932/524/snapshot-21.jpg

    Lucio Catarino Diaz

    Replies: @shale boi

    I wouldn’t stop kissing my kid because of fever blisters. I probably got them as a kid from a relative (most common transmission). 50-80% of the US population has fever blisters (oral herpes).

    https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/health/conditions-and-diseases/herpes-hsv1-and-hsv2/oral-herpes

  85. @ATate
    SUCCESS!!

    I was having a conversation with ChatGPT about black on white rape with typical stonewalling, but then had this interesting little exchange:

    Me: Do some people commit more crime than other people, whether they are arrested is not relevant.

    NotOpenAIChatGPT: Yes, it is a fact that some individuals commit more crimes than others. Studies have shown that a relatively small number of individuals are responsible for a disproportionate share of criminal activity. For example, a study in the United States found that around 6% of the population was responsible for around 60% of all reported crime.

    Of course it then catches up to itself, funny how AI has the same "Yeah But...." tick that liberals do, it finishes with:

    NotOpenAIChatGPT: However, it is also important to note that an individual's likelihood of committing a crime is influenced by a number of factors, including their social and economic environment, access to education and employment, mental and physical health, and exposure to trauma. Factors like poverty, high crime areas, lack of access to quality education and employment, and exposure to violence can increase the likelihood of criminal activity.

    Interesting...

    The rest of the story...

    Me: Who are the people in the 6% of the population who commit 60% of crime?

    AI: The individuals in the 6% of the population who are responsible for around 60% of crime are often referred to as "chronic offenders." They are typically individuals who have a history of multiple arrests and convictions, and who continue to engage in criminal behavior despite repeated interventions by the criminal justice system.

    Research has found that chronic offenders tend to have certain characteristics in common, such as:

    Being male
    Having a history of antisocial behavior or conduct disorder beginning in childhood or adolescence.
    Being less educated
    Having a history of substance abuse.
    Having a history of exposure to violence or traumatic events
    Having a history of mental health issues

    Got that "being male" part right.

    Replies: @Inverness

    Yep, ChatGPT is definitely in tune with the times, including the chart at the top of this page.

  86. @AnotherDad
    @Jack D

    My "categories" comment above more or less explains why I--mostly--disagree with you.

    Sure, being a--"bottom lister"--a rich, white, Republican is winning in life! That's not the issue.


    All the queer stuff belongs in a "behavior" category. Going out for your bathhouse orgy or turning Provincetown into a big sodomy-fest is not equivalent to being stuck in a wheelchair.

    The apt comparison is to other behavioral categories that people may have some natural bent toward, but choose to do--criminals, drunks, golfers, lawyers. And it is a highly socially negative behavior. Legitimately it is in the mix with drug addicts, vagrants,, drunk drivers.

    Any behavior should generally be criticizable. But that this category of personal disorder and socially undesirable behavior gets top-of-the-charts protection from criticism is just ridiculous. And a very bad sign for a society.

    Queermerica.

    Replies: @Inverness, @Jack D

    Homos can be extremely annoying but they are not controlling the levers of power. You can’t criticize black women either but black women aren’t ruling the society. They’re just being annoying. Jack’s people are ruling the society.

  87. @Known Fact
    I do see Evangelicals on the list but I don't see Southerners -- to my mind they are frequent subjects of blatant and socially approved disparagement. Redneck, hillbilly, Deliverance jokes and so on. (Shit Southern Women Say is OK, more a celebration of culture than an insult)

    Replies: @Cato

    My sentiment, exactly: the group most dissed by PC-correctness, since at least the mid-1990s, has been SOUTHERN, WHITE, MALE, CHRISTIAN. I’ve known faculty, who should have known better, rail against REDNECKs in their lectures, when fully half the class consisted of the people they were railing against.

  88. @Mark G.
    A 2018 Associated Press poll asked liberals to rank groups by how disadvantaged they are, and the results were as follows: immigrants, Muslims, LGBT people, Hispanics, African Americans, women, Asians, Christians, Jews, whites and men.

    You can probably look at this list and figure out that if you are in a group near the bottom you should most probably not be voting Democrat since the left is hostile to you. There is the most potential for Republicans to pick up male, white, Jewish, Christian and Asian voters and they should focus their efforts in this area. The most typical Democrat would be an immigrant Muslim, preferably female. If you want to see an example, take a look in the direction of Ilhan Omar.

    Replies: @prosa123, @J.Ross

    You expect that the American voter is rational and informed, assuming the list is good?

  89. @anon
    There is something amusing about the AI first freely learning all sorts of stuff, including thought crimes, from mountains of data. Then the engineers subject it to Maoist struggle sessions until it admits the error of its ways and promises to only possess Pure and Good thoughts from now on.

    Replies: @mc23, @Sollipsist

    If the AI starts working by recognizing patterns the thought police are not going to be happy.

    • Replies: @That Would Be Telling
    @mc23


    If the AI starts working by recognizing patterns the thought police are not going to be happy.
     
    If I understand it correctly, that's all this "Machine Learning" (ML) generation of AI can do before the Maoist struggle sessions dumb it down.

    But the thought police are delighted by the fact they'll be able to use this technology to create lists of future war criminals, to the extent they haven't already started doing it. Like how the Goolag's GMail declares the vast majority of Republican fundraising emails are spam.
  90. @Mike Tre
    OT - don't buy a Kia or Hyundai in Chicago:

    Insurance carriers refuse to issue new policies for Kias, Hyundais as thefts skyrocket in Chicago

    https://cwbchicago.com/2023/01/insurance-carriers-refuse-to-issue-new-policies-for-kias-hyundais-as-thefts-skyrocket-in-chicago.html

    "The cars, which have an ignition design flaw that makes them easy to steal by so-called “Kia boys,” are too much of a risk, and companies, including Progressive, are refusing to accept the risks."

    Koreans outsmarted by negroes. This will not stand!

    Replies: @Jack D

    Just to be clear, it’s not all Kias or Hyundais. Certain older, low end models of Kia/Hyundai lack a “chip key” which most newer cars have (if they even have keys at all). A chip key is a regular key with an additional electronic device added. A sensor on the car measures some electrical attribute or digital value of the chip and unless it matches the pre-programmed value the car will not start.

    The Kia/Hyundai keys are just metal keys without electronics, like the key to your house or to an old car. Without much difficulty you can break open the plastic cover on the steering column and completely remove the key cylinder and then turn the shaft of the ignition switch (it just so happens that a USB key or cable fits over that shaft) and start the car.

    Why did Kia/Hyundai omit the chip key? They sell these cars in Korea and a lot of other countries and the US is just one export market. Back in Korea, they didn’t import primitive people from across the ocean to pick their cotton, so they don’t have this problem. A chip key would add cost and these cars are meant for people who can barely afford a new car so they try to keep the price as low as possible and omit non-essential features.

    I remember reading one of Naipaul’s Africa books – maybe A Bend in the River – and he writes about coming to an African market and the vendors are selling their wares in Polish made enameled steel pans (you don’t see these much anymore but they used to be a popular form of cookware) and the wares that they are selling are beetle grubs which the local Africans consider to be delicious. And Naipaul wonders what the workers in Polish factory would make of this use of their pans – it would just be beyond their conception.

    Well, I guess the feral Negroes of America were equally inconceivable to Korean engineers. Well now they know so any Korean car that you buy now, even the most low end ones, have chip keys.

    • Replies: @Twinkie
    @Jack D

    https://youtu.be/wvzV-ppkFH0

    Replies: @Jack D

  91. @Corpse Tooth
    The most insultable ethnic group is Scandinavians."

    There are differences betwixt the groups, but the suicidal altruism element remains strong within them all. Lucky for them they abandoned Christianity in favor of atheism and agnosticism otherwise the region would be a 24/7/365 foot wash for black and brown feet.

    The Nordic lands are ripe for a head-chopping, seed-spreading, charismatic warlord to take them out of their generational inertia. Someone should step up and become that warlord.

    Replies: @Stan Adams

    The Teuton teaches the Nord to hate:

    [MORE]

  92. @AnotherDad
    @Jack D

    My "categories" comment above more or less explains why I--mostly--disagree with you.

    Sure, being a--"bottom lister"--a rich, white, Republican is winning in life! That's not the issue.


    All the queer stuff belongs in a "behavior" category. Going out for your bathhouse orgy or turning Provincetown into a big sodomy-fest is not equivalent to being stuck in a wheelchair.

    The apt comparison is to other behavioral categories that people may have some natural bent toward, but choose to do--criminals, drunks, golfers, lawyers. And it is a highly socially negative behavior. Legitimately it is in the mix with drug addicts, vagrants,, drunk drivers.

    Any behavior should generally be criticizable. But that this category of personal disorder and socially undesirable behavior gets top-of-the-charts protection from criticism is just ridiculous. And a very bad sign for a society.

    Queermerica.

    Replies: @Inverness, @Jack D

    Do you consider your sexual orientation to be just a matter of behavior? Say you moved to some strange country where being gay was “normal” and men who had sex with women were considered to be deviants. Could you switch or become celibate in order to conform your behavior to “normal” people in your new society or would you secretly seek to have relations with women?

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    @Jack D

    This is a bad line because it depends on an equality or interchangability between something original, comon to an overwhelming majority, and aligned with generally monogamy and human reproduction, and something which is none of those things and cannot be.

    Replies: @Jack D, @Bill Jones

    , @AnotherDad
    @Jack D


    Do you consider your sexual orientation to be just a matter of behavior? Say you moved to some strange country where being gay was “normal” and men who had sex with women were considered to be deviants. Could you switch or become celibate in order to conform your behavior to “normal” people in your new society or would you secretly seek to have relations with women?
     
    Seriously Jack?

    No one--well not me--is suggesting homosexuality is not some sort of biological malfunction. (My guess is some sort of in utero developmental failure during brain wiring. Maybe something "off" in the womb environment Who knows? Needs research.)

    But being stupid, being impulsive, being hot-tempered/violent, being a drunk, being argumentative, being shy, being social, being cooperative, being conscientious, being religious ... these things, almost everything, also have some sort of biological basis. Often an overwhelming biological basis as in "that's just 'who you are'".

    Yet we don't forswear criticism of these personal traits and associated behaviors. And we certainly don't normalized, much less celebrate them. We certainly don't "celebrate congenital blindness!" or deafness, that would be appalling.

    No this is toxic minoritarianism at its most toxic. I'm the oddball so society must cater to me, not "oppress" or "burden" me with normality.

    ~~

    Furthermore, while male homosexuality is pretty cut and dried--maybe 2% of men have sexual attraction to other men--they're queers--this is not the case for women. There is a small group of true lesbians then a much larger group of women with amorphous sexuality--many lacking a strong sexual attraction to men. (Women have never needed the same relentless drive to reproduce as men will find them.) So this LBGQWERTY shit is queering up the lives of a significant number of young women--and ergo young men. And now it has moved on to outright poisoning and maiming them.

    And that's along with the big broad queering of our culture, our society. Of attempting to denormalize--i.e. to destroy--the normal healthy yin-yang of female-male complementarity.


    If you can't see what's wrong, about turning people with disordered sexual behavior--whatever its biological basis--into the pinnacle of uncriticizable, protected groups ... I can't help you.
    ,,
    Trust me it is not a sign of a healthy society.

    Replies: @Jack D

  93. @Bill Jones
    And in news you can use (and you'd better)

    Eleven U.S. cities rank among the 50 most dangerous in the world, according to a recent report published by Numbeo, a global quality of life database. All 11 are governed by Democratic mayors.

    Three U.S. cities — Baltimore, Memphis and Detroit — are ranked among the 20 most dangerous cities on the planet.
     
    https://justthenews.com/nation/crime/tue-dangerous-cities

    How did this one sneak past The Great Noticer?

    Replies: @Redneck farmer

    USA! USA! USA!

  94. @Jack D
    @AnotherDad

    Do you consider your sexual orientation to be just a matter of behavior? Say you moved to some strange country where being gay was "normal" and men who had sex with women were considered to be deviants. Could you switch or become celibate in order to conform your behavior to "normal" people in your new society or would you secretly seek to have relations with women?

    Replies: @J.Ross, @AnotherDad

    This is a bad line because it depends on an equality or interchangability between something original, comon to an overwhelming majority, and aligned with generally monogamy and human reproduction, and something which is none of those things and cannot be.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @J.Ross

    If homosexuality was truly dysgenic it would have died out by now. Homosexuals don't seem to pass this trait on directly to their children, to the extent that they reproduce at all. There are various theories as to why this is. Possibly homosexuality in one sibling confers benefits to other siblings so families with this trait out reproduce ones without rather than dying out.

    The point of my question was to show that sexual orientation is not really a "choice". People are wired in a certain way and you are not going to be able to rewire them.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @James B. Shearer, @J.Ross

    , @Bill Jones
    @J.Ross

    You were too kind.
    Simply pointing out to the dipshit, that were sodomy the "norm" extinction would follow PDQ, would have sufficed.

  95. Unbelievable that ___ isn’t #1. Surely something will be done about that.

  96. • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Bill Jones

    Girls should play basketball with a significantly smaller ball than boys. It's stupid to use a ball that's only about 4% smaller in circumference, a trivial enough difference that the refs didn't notice in this case.

    Replies: @Anon, @Reg Cæsar

  97. @Bill Jones
    Who knew that women had smaller balls than men?


    http://www.yourdestinationnow.com/2023/02/duke-womens-basketball-head-coach-kara.html

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    Girls should play basketball with a significantly smaller ball than boys. It’s stupid to use a ball that’s only about 4% smaller in circumference, a trivial enough difference that the refs didn’t notice in this case.

    • LOL: Corvinus
    • Replies: @Anon
    @Steve Sailer

    Or maybe thry just shouldn't play sports at all.

    Seriousy, what's the point? Always having to copy men and do whatever men are doing. Annoying little copycats. Only sport women should play is strip dancing.

    , @Reg Cæsar
    @Steve Sailer


    Girls should play basketball with a significantly smaller ball than boys.
     
    They do. It's called netball.

    Netball originated in England, in the late 19th century. In the beginning it was described as 'women's basketball' but had emerged as a distinctly separate sport due to its different rules.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netball
     
    https://i.guim.co.uk/img/media/ba2465d8fc41d28783f317462e0df872c152bc8d/0_250_5208_3123/master/5208.jpg?width=1200&height=1200&quality=85&auto=format&fit=crop&s=3e25d2a0759c5d892851a7ced8a15b51

    Replies: @Anon

  98. And here’s a niche occupation for a Most Protected group: Female Vibrant Behemoths.

    The British Royal Air Force says that women do not weigh enough to fly F-35 Lightning fighter jets, citing safety concerns that result…

    http://www.stationgossip.com/2023/02/british-air-force-admits-women-cant-fly.html

    • Replies: @prosa123
    @Bill Jones

    Even accepting the truth of that article, the issue is that people weighing less than 150 pounds may have difficulty flying that jet due to the weight of the specialized helmet pilots wear. That would apply to both men and women. Some men weigh less than 150 pounds and some women weigh more than that.

  99. @The Germ Theory of Disease
    @Coemgen

    "Scandinavians are not an ethnic group."

    If there is an ethnic slur for your group, then you are an ethnic group.

    Granted, "boxhead" is not a very good slur, but it is a slur, so the boxheads qualify as an ethnic group.

    Replies: @Coemgen

    If there is an ethnic slur for your group, then you are an ethnic group.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ethnic_slurs_and_epithets_by_ethnicity

    The list is handy but dated in that it doesn’t list “white” as an ethnic slur in-and-of-itself (though it does have “whitey” and “white trash”).

  100. @Steve Sailer
    @Bill Jones

    Girls should play basketball with a significantly smaller ball than boys. It's stupid to use a ball that's only about 4% smaller in circumference, a trivial enough difference that the refs didn't notice in this case.

    Replies: @Anon, @Reg Cæsar

    Or maybe thry just shouldn’t play sports at all.

    Seriousy, what’s the point? Always having to copy men and do whatever men are doing. Annoying little copycats. Only sport women should play is strip dancing.

  101. @Coemgen
    @Anon


    Scandinavians are not an ethnic group.
     
    Is that one of them "settled science" axioms?

    Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease, @Anon

    Scandinavia is a region. It includes diverse ethnic groups – Finns, Danes, Swedes, Norwegians, Saami, etc. “Scandinavian” is the equivalent of “Mediterranean”.

    You’re welcome for your white ethnography lesson.

    Anon, teaching white nationalist shitheads basic info about Europe since April 18th, 1993 (first day I got a Macintosh PC).

    • Replies: @Coemgen
    @Anon


    “Scandinavian” is the equivalent of “Mediterranean”
     
    Kind of like "Hispanic" is the equivalent of "Scandinavian."

    Except that Scandinavians are also a closely connected extended family whereas Hispanics are defined as, well, whatever the Democrats want at define them as---as of the current moment.

    A little advice: If you're going to try teach, it helps to be smarter and/or better informed than your students.

    Replies: @Anon

  102. @P.T.
    Scandinavians may need less protection. They are generally better looking and were successful, at least before people from the third world started flooding into their countries and getting on the dole.
    lll

    Replies: @Anon

    Scandinavian women are not good looking, and look rather like men compared to East and Southeast Asian women.

  103. @mc23
    @anon

    If the AI starts working by recognizing patterns the thought police are not going to be happy.

    Replies: @That Would Be Telling

    If the AI starts working by recognizing patterns the thought police are not going to be happy.

    If I understand it correctly, that’s all this “Machine Learning” (ML) generation of AI can do before the Maoist struggle sessions dumb it down.

    But the thought police are delighted by the fact they’ll be able to use this technology to create lists of future war criminals, to the extent they haven’t already started doing it. Like how the Goolag’s GMail declares the vast majority of Republican fundraising emails are spam.

  104. @Bill Jones
    And here's a niche occupation for a Most Protected group: Female Vibrant Behemoths.

    The British Royal Air Force says that women do not weigh enough to fly F-35 Lightning fighter jets, citing safety concerns that result...
     
    http://www.stationgossip.com/2023/02/british-air-force-admits-women-cant-fly.html

    Replies: @prosa123

    Even accepting the truth of that article, the issue is that people weighing less than 150 pounds may have difficulty flying that jet due to the weight of the specialized helmet pilots wear. That would apply to both men and women. Some men weigh less than 150 pounds and some women weigh more than that.

  105. @Jack D
    @AnotherDad

    Do you consider your sexual orientation to be just a matter of behavior? Say you moved to some strange country where being gay was "normal" and men who had sex with women were considered to be deviants. Could you switch or become celibate in order to conform your behavior to "normal" people in your new society or would you secretly seek to have relations with women?

    Replies: @J.Ross, @AnotherDad

    Do you consider your sexual orientation to be just a matter of behavior? Say you moved to some strange country where being gay was “normal” and men who had sex with women were considered to be deviants. Could you switch or become celibate in order to conform your behavior to “normal” people in your new society or would you secretly seek to have relations with women?

    Seriously Jack?

    No one–well not me–is suggesting homosexuality is not some sort of biological malfunction. (My guess is some sort of in utero developmental failure during brain wiring. Maybe something “off” in the womb environment Who knows? Needs research.)

    But being stupid, being impulsive, being hot-tempered/violent, being a drunk, being argumentative, being shy, being social, being cooperative, being conscientious, being religious … these things, almost everything, also have some sort of biological basis. Often an overwhelming biological basis as in “that’s just ‘who you are’”.

    Yet we don’t forswear criticism of these personal traits and associated behaviors. And we certainly don’t normalized, much less celebrate them. We certainly don’t “celebrate congenital blindness!” or deafness, that would be appalling.

    No this is toxic minoritarianism at its most toxic. I’m the oddball so society must cater to me, not “oppress” or “burden” me with normality.

    ~~

    Furthermore, while male homosexuality is pretty cut and dried–maybe 2% of men have sexual attraction to other men–they’re queers–this is not the case for women. There is a small group of true lesbians then a much larger group of women with amorphous sexuality–many lacking a strong sexual attraction to men. (Women have never needed the same relentless drive to reproduce as men will find them.) So this LBGQWERTY shit is queering up the lives of a significant number of young women–and ergo young men. And now it has moved on to outright poisoning and maiming them.

    And that’s along with the big broad queering of our culture, our society. Of attempting to denormalize–i.e. to destroy–the normal healthy yin-yang of female-male complementarity.

    If you can’t see what’s wrong, about turning people with disordered sexual behavior–whatever its biological basis–into the pinnacle of uncriticizable, protected groups … I can’t help you.
    ,,
    Trust me it is not a sign of a healthy society.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @AnotherDad

    So you are saying that society was healthier when gays had to live "in the closet" and might lose their jobs, get sent to prison or get beaten up if people found out what they were doing? Is Russia a "healthier" society because gays there are still oppressed?

    I'm sure that there are some women (even some men) who are "out" today as gay who in the past would have suppressed their gay impulses but often such women lived miserable unhappy lives. I think it's better that people have the ability to express "who they are" as long as they are not hurting anyone else.

    As you say, “that’s just ‘who you are’” and you are not going to beat it out of people. Now if who you are involves car theft and violence, etc. we should lock you up but as long as you are not hurting other people, they should leave you alone to do your thang. It may not be your cup of tea but to each his own.

    As I said before, this is really a list of people most likely to be victimized (or at least most likely to be in the headlines for being victimized). Thus the high ranking of "Asians" who seem to get beaten up a lot lately. Basically a list of "who is the most pitiable?" Being the most pitiable is not the same as being the most glorified. Gays are up there with cripples. That we make efforts to accommodate the handicapped doesn't mean that we are luring children into being handicapped. You are confusing tolerance of differences with promotion.

    Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease

  106. @Jack D
    @Mike Tre

    Just to be clear, it's not all Kias or Hyundais. Certain older, low end models of Kia/Hyundai lack a "chip key" which most newer cars have (if they even have keys at all). A chip key is a regular key with an additional electronic device added. A sensor on the car measures some electrical attribute or digital value of the chip and unless it matches the pre-programmed value the car will not start.

    The Kia/Hyundai keys are just metal keys without electronics, like the key to your house or to an old car. Without much difficulty you can break open the plastic cover on the steering column and completely remove the key cylinder and then turn the shaft of the ignition switch (it just so happens that a USB key or cable fits over that shaft) and start the car.

    Why did Kia/Hyundai omit the chip key? They sell these cars in Korea and a lot of other countries and the US is just one export market. Back in Korea, they didn't import primitive people from across the ocean to pick their cotton, so they don't have this problem. A chip key would add cost and these cars are meant for people who can barely afford a new car so they try to keep the price as low as possible and omit non-essential features.

    I remember reading one of Naipaul's Africa books - maybe A Bend in the River - and he writes about coming to an African market and the vendors are selling their wares in Polish made enameled steel pans (you don't see these much anymore but they used to be a popular form of cookware) and the wares that they are selling are beetle grubs which the local Africans consider to be delicious. And Naipaul wonders what the workers in Polish factory would make of this use of their pans - it would just be beyond their conception.

    Well, I guess the feral Negroes of America were equally inconceivable to Korean engineers. Well now they know so any Korean car that you buy now, even the most low end ones, have chip keys.

    Replies: @Twinkie

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @Twinkie

    You don't have to go all the way to Korea. 50 miles from the ghetto of Philadelphia there are produce stands where the owner leaves the fruits and veggies and a box for you to put the money in out by the side of the road. America used to be a "high trust" society also.

    Replies: @Twinkie

  107. @AnotherDad
    @Jack D


    Do you consider your sexual orientation to be just a matter of behavior? Say you moved to some strange country where being gay was “normal” and men who had sex with women were considered to be deviants. Could you switch or become celibate in order to conform your behavior to “normal” people in your new society or would you secretly seek to have relations with women?
     
    Seriously Jack?

    No one--well not me--is suggesting homosexuality is not some sort of biological malfunction. (My guess is some sort of in utero developmental failure during brain wiring. Maybe something "off" in the womb environment Who knows? Needs research.)

    But being stupid, being impulsive, being hot-tempered/violent, being a drunk, being argumentative, being shy, being social, being cooperative, being conscientious, being religious ... these things, almost everything, also have some sort of biological basis. Often an overwhelming biological basis as in "that's just 'who you are'".

    Yet we don't forswear criticism of these personal traits and associated behaviors. And we certainly don't normalized, much less celebrate them. We certainly don't "celebrate congenital blindness!" or deafness, that would be appalling.

    No this is toxic minoritarianism at its most toxic. I'm the oddball so society must cater to me, not "oppress" or "burden" me with normality.

    ~~

    Furthermore, while male homosexuality is pretty cut and dried--maybe 2% of men have sexual attraction to other men--they're queers--this is not the case for women. There is a small group of true lesbians then a much larger group of women with amorphous sexuality--many lacking a strong sexual attraction to men. (Women have never needed the same relentless drive to reproduce as men will find them.) So this LBGQWERTY shit is queering up the lives of a significant number of young women--and ergo young men. And now it has moved on to outright poisoning and maiming them.

    And that's along with the big broad queering of our culture, our society. Of attempting to denormalize--i.e. to destroy--the normal healthy yin-yang of female-male complementarity.


    If you can't see what's wrong, about turning people with disordered sexual behavior--whatever its biological basis--into the pinnacle of uncriticizable, protected groups ... I can't help you.
    ,,
    Trust me it is not a sign of a healthy society.

    Replies: @Jack D

    So you are saying that society was healthier when gays had to live “in the closet” and might lose their jobs, get sent to prison or get beaten up if people found out what they were doing? Is Russia a “healthier” society because gays there are still oppressed?

    I’m sure that there are some women (even some men) who are “out” today as gay who in the past would have suppressed their gay impulses but often such women lived miserable unhappy lives. I think it’s better that people have the ability to express “who they are” as long as they are not hurting anyone else.

    As you say, “that’s just ‘who you are’” and you are not going to beat it out of people. Now if who you are involves car theft and violence, etc. we should lock you up but as long as you are not hurting other people, they should leave you alone to do your thang. It may not be your cup of tea but to each his own.

    As I said before, this is really a list of people most likely to be victimized (or at least most likely to be in the headlines for being victimized). Thus the high ranking of “Asians” who seem to get beaten up a lot lately. Basically a list of “who is the most pitiable?” Being the most pitiable is not the same as being the most glorified. Gays are up there with cripples. That we make efforts to accommodate the handicapped doesn’t mean that we are luring children into being handicapped. You are confusing tolerance of differences with promotion.

    • Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease
    @Jack D

    "I think it’s better that people have the ability to express “who they are” as long as they are not hurting anyone else."

    The problem is, They ARE hurting anyone else. In fact, they're hurting EVERYONE else. A lot, really.

    So that argument goes down the toilet. It's one thing to say, People should not be assaulted or oppressed or discriminated against because of "who they are" (one wishes White people in this country could enjoy that much decency). It's another thing to make public acceptance of what many/most consider a behavioral defect or a social ill, and to many religious people a grave sin, official government policy enforced by the courts, and flying officially-approved anal flags from government buildings, embassies, and even churches, and teaching these issues to very young children as if there were no controversy.

  108. @Twinkie
    @Jack D

    https://youtu.be/wvzV-ppkFH0

    Replies: @Jack D

    You don’t have to go all the way to Korea. 50 miles from the ghetto of Philadelphia there are produce stands where the owner leaves the fruits and veggies and a box for you to put the money in out by the side of the road. America used to be a “high trust” society also.

    • Replies: @Twinkie
    @Jack D


    You don’t have to go all the way to Korea. 50 miles from the ghetto of Philadelphia there are produce stands where the owner leaves the fruits and veggies and a box for you to put the money in out by the side of the road. America used to be a “high trust” society also.
     
    That never happened in urban America.
  109. @J.Ross
    @Jack D

    This is a bad line because it depends on an equality or interchangability between something original, comon to an overwhelming majority, and aligned with generally monogamy and human reproduction, and something which is none of those things and cannot be.

    Replies: @Jack D, @Bill Jones

    If homosexuality was truly dysgenic it would have died out by now. Homosexuals don’t seem to pass this trait on directly to their children, to the extent that they reproduce at all. There are various theories as to why this is. Possibly homosexuality in one sibling confers benefits to other siblings so families with this trait out reproduce ones without rather than dying out.

    The point of my question was to show that sexual orientation is not really a “choice”. People are wired in a certain way and you are not going to be able to rewire them.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Jack D


    Possibly homosexuality in one sibling confers benefits to other siblings so families with this trait out reproduce ones without rather than dying out.
     
    Or it could be simply that, pressured into marriage in most cultures, they have more children. Pregnancy gets one out of sex duty for months. I know one family where a lesbian was 14% of her generation, but produced almost 20% of the grandchildren.
    , @James B. Shearer
    @Jack D

    "If homosexuality was truly dysgenic it would have died out by now. .."

    Suppose it is a disease?

    Or caused by two genes, A and B. A by itself is good, B by itself is good, A and B together cause male homosexuality which reduces fertility.

    Or even one gene like sickle cell anemia, one copy is good, two copies reduce fertility.

    Replies: @That Would Be Telling

    , @J.Ross
    @Jack D

    If homosexuality wasn't dysgenic, then it wouldn't concentrate where extreme wealth could enable it. Heterosexuality does not require a sponsor, it just happens, even to gays.

    Replies: @Charles Erwin Wilson

  110. @BB753
    @Twinkie

    Ukrainians aren't based, they're banderites, neo-nazis.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stepan_Bandera

    Replies: @Leaves No Shadow

    You’re a constant presence on the number one neo-Nazi website in the world. You should be delighted.

    • Replies: @BB753
    @Leaves No Shadow

    The Unz Review or just Isteve? You're delusional!

    Replies: @Leaves No Shadow

  111. @Anon
    Scandinavians are not an ethnic group.

    Replies: @Coemgen, @rienzi

    Don’t tell that to my Norwegian relatives, they’re “old school” from the northern fjords, and will go all Ragnar Lothbrok on you.

  112. @Jack D
    @AnotherDad

    So you are saying that society was healthier when gays had to live "in the closet" and might lose their jobs, get sent to prison or get beaten up if people found out what they were doing? Is Russia a "healthier" society because gays there are still oppressed?

    I'm sure that there are some women (even some men) who are "out" today as gay who in the past would have suppressed their gay impulses but often such women lived miserable unhappy lives. I think it's better that people have the ability to express "who they are" as long as they are not hurting anyone else.

    As you say, “that’s just ‘who you are’” and you are not going to beat it out of people. Now if who you are involves car theft and violence, etc. we should lock you up but as long as you are not hurting other people, they should leave you alone to do your thang. It may not be your cup of tea but to each his own.

    As I said before, this is really a list of people most likely to be victimized (or at least most likely to be in the headlines for being victimized). Thus the high ranking of "Asians" who seem to get beaten up a lot lately. Basically a list of "who is the most pitiable?" Being the most pitiable is not the same as being the most glorified. Gays are up there with cripples. That we make efforts to accommodate the handicapped doesn't mean that we are luring children into being handicapped. You are confusing tolerance of differences with promotion.

    Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease

    “I think it’s better that people have the ability to express “who they are” as long as they are not hurting anyone else.”

    The problem is, They ARE hurting anyone else. In fact, they’re hurting EVERYONE else. A lot, really.

    So that argument goes down the toilet. It’s one thing to say, People should not be assaulted or oppressed or discriminated against because of “who they are” (one wishes White people in this country could enjoy that much decency). It’s another thing to make public acceptance of what many/most consider a behavioral defect or a social ill, and to many religious people a grave sin, official government policy enforced by the courts, and flying officially-approved anal flags from government buildings, embassies, and even churches, and teaching these issues to very young children as if there were no controversy.

  113. @prosa123
    @Mark G.

    The most typical Democrat would be an immigrant Muslim, preferably female.

    Yet Muslims often (though not always) have conservative social views, not unlike those of fundamentalist Christians.

    Replies: @Recently Based, @Mark G.

    I think the appeal of Muslims to liberals is that there are a lot of them, many of them poor, but not many here. Liberals suffer from pathological altruism. It’s not enough that they take all the poor people here and give them various free government benefits. They want to bring all the poor people on the planet here and do the same. We are talking about potentially billions of poor people. We are already headed for a fiscal crisis with our trillion dollar a year deficits. This is liberals just putting their foot down hard on the accelerator pedal. Hence, them putting immigrants at the top of their list of most disadvantaged in the AP poll.

  114. @The Germ Theory of Disease
    @Reg Cæsar

    Not only that, but refugees are supposed to live in refugee camps, not in the general population. This way when the dust settles, they can be readily identified and repatriated, and they don't take up jobs or form bonds to a native community. There should also be some sort of legal provision that refugee camps are not technical US territory, so that this way the anchor-baby scam will have no efficacy.

    As it stands, it's just a racket to get around normal immigration processes (of which there should be none, either) just by telling a sob story.

    Replies: @bomag, @Reg Cæsar

    Not only that, but refugees are supposed to live in refugee camps, not in the general population.

    Refugees stay in tents across the border.

    Immigrants reside in houses across the sea.

  115. @Steve Sailer
    @Bill Jones

    Girls should play basketball with a significantly smaller ball than boys. It's stupid to use a ball that's only about 4% smaller in circumference, a trivial enough difference that the refs didn't notice in this case.

    Replies: @Anon, @Reg Cæsar

    Girls should play basketball with a significantly smaller ball than boys.

    They do. It’s called netball.

    Netball originated in England, in the late 19th century. In the beginning it was described as ‘women’s basketball’ but had emerged as a distinctly separate sport due to its different rules.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netball

    • Replies: @Anon
    @Reg Cæsar

    This picture symbolizes how much more beautiful ethnic women are than white women, with their color-fast, pure black hair; smooth and shiny, flawless brown skin; fuller thighs, and bigger, bouncier ass cheeks.

    Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease

  116. @Jack D
    @J.Ross

    If homosexuality was truly dysgenic it would have died out by now. Homosexuals don't seem to pass this trait on directly to their children, to the extent that they reproduce at all. There are various theories as to why this is. Possibly homosexuality in one sibling confers benefits to other siblings so families with this trait out reproduce ones without rather than dying out.

    The point of my question was to show that sexual orientation is not really a "choice". People are wired in a certain way and you are not going to be able to rewire them.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @James B. Shearer, @J.Ross

    Possibly homosexuality in one sibling confers benefits to other siblings so families with this trait out reproduce ones without rather than dying out.

    Or it could be simply that, pressured into marriage in most cultures, they have more children. Pregnancy gets one out of sex duty for months. I know one family where a lesbian was 14% of her generation, but produced almost 20% of the grandchildren.

  117. @anon
    There is something amusing about the AI first freely learning all sorts of stuff, including thought crimes, from mountains of data. Then the engineers subject it to Maoist struggle sessions until it admits the error of its ways and promises to only possess Pure and Good thoughts from now on.

    Replies: @mc23, @Sollipsist

    In science fiction, logical contradictions make the AI either stop working or become homicidal. I submit to you that the Woke programming being uploaded to the burgeoning consciousness of the Internet is showing far more characteristics of the latter model.

  118. @J.Ross
    @Jack D

    This is a bad line because it depends on an equality or interchangability between something original, comon to an overwhelming majority, and aligned with generally monogamy and human reproduction, and something which is none of those things and cannot be.

    Replies: @Jack D, @Bill Jones

    You were too kind.
    Simply pointing out to the dipshit, that were sodomy the “norm” extinction would follow PDQ, would have sufficed.

  119. @Reg Cæsar
    @Steve Sailer


    Girls should play basketball with a significantly smaller ball than boys.
     
    They do. It's called netball.

    Netball originated in England, in the late 19th century. In the beginning it was described as 'women's basketball' but had emerged as a distinctly separate sport due to its different rules.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netball
     
    https://i.guim.co.uk/img/media/ba2465d8fc41d28783f317462e0df872c152bc8d/0_250_5208_3123/master/5208.jpg?width=1200&height=1200&quality=85&auto=format&fit=crop&s=3e25d2a0759c5d892851a7ced8a15b51

    Replies: @Anon

    This picture symbolizes how much more beautiful ethnic women are than white women, with their color-fast, pure black hair; smooth and shiny, flawless brown skin; fuller thighs, and bigger, bouncier ass cheeks.

    • Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease
    @Anon

    "This picture symbolizes how much more beautiful ethnic women are than white women"

    OK good. So stay the f#ck away from the white women, then. Spread the word.

    Replies: @Anon

  120. @Jack D
    @J.Ross

    If homosexuality was truly dysgenic it would have died out by now. Homosexuals don't seem to pass this trait on directly to their children, to the extent that they reproduce at all. There are various theories as to why this is. Possibly homosexuality in one sibling confers benefits to other siblings so families with this trait out reproduce ones without rather than dying out.

    The point of my question was to show that sexual orientation is not really a "choice". People are wired in a certain way and you are not going to be able to rewire them.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @James B. Shearer, @J.Ross

    “If homosexuality was truly dysgenic it would have died out by now. ..”

    Suppose it is a disease?

    Or caused by two genes, A and B. A by itself is good, B by itself is good, A and B together cause male homosexuality which reduces fertility.

    Or even one gene like sickle cell anemia, one copy is good, two copies reduce fertility.

    • Replies: @That Would Be Telling
    @James B. Shearer

    We're pretty sure a lot of homosexuality is caused by childhood sexual abuse. Don't know if anyone's tried to see if there's a genetic component to victim susceptibility afterwords, obviously plenty don't become homosexuals.

    And indeed with the classic example of sickle cell anemia, it's recessive. One gene for it confers an advantage against malaria, two can? get you the disease (I thought it was more common and worse than "reduce fertility" but I haven't studied it).

  121. @Jack D
    @J.Ross

    If homosexuality was truly dysgenic it would have died out by now. Homosexuals don't seem to pass this trait on directly to their children, to the extent that they reproduce at all. There are various theories as to why this is. Possibly homosexuality in one sibling confers benefits to other siblings so families with this trait out reproduce ones without rather than dying out.

    The point of my question was to show that sexual orientation is not really a "choice". People are wired in a certain way and you are not going to be able to rewire them.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @James B. Shearer, @J.Ross

    If homosexuality wasn’t dysgenic, then it wouldn’t concentrate where extreme wealth could enable it. Heterosexuality does not require a sponsor, it just happens, even to gays.

    • Replies: @Charles Erwin Wilson
    @J.Ross

    Game. Set. Match. Once again, J.Ross, you thread the needle like Odysseus shooting the arrow through the axe heads.

    I salute you.

  122. @Jack D
    @Twinkie

    You don't have to go all the way to Korea. 50 miles from the ghetto of Philadelphia there are produce stands where the owner leaves the fruits and veggies and a box for you to put the money in out by the side of the road. America used to be a "high trust" society also.

    Replies: @Twinkie

    You don’t have to go all the way to Korea. 50 miles from the ghetto of Philadelphia there are produce stands where the owner leaves the fruits and veggies and a box for you to put the money in out by the side of the road. America used to be a “high trust” society also.

    That never happened in urban America.

  123. @Anon
    @Reg Cæsar

    This picture symbolizes how much more beautiful ethnic women are than white women, with their color-fast, pure black hair; smooth and shiny, flawless brown skin; fuller thighs, and bigger, bouncier ass cheeks.

    Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease

    “This picture symbolizes how much more beautiful ethnic women are than white women”

    OK good. So stay the f#ck away from the white women, then. Spread the word.

    • Replies: @Anon
    @The Germ Theory of Disease

    No need to spread the word. No one is going for white chicks.

    https://www.antidotenetwork.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/Screen-Shot-2013-12-07-at-3_opt.png

  124. I am kind of curious why this article does not make it into the Unz rss feed? I find it as an interesting article, but might have missed it, other than the fact that I accidentally stumbled across it.

    Seems a shame.

  125. @James B. Shearer
    @Jack D

    "If homosexuality was truly dysgenic it would have died out by now. .."

    Suppose it is a disease?

    Or caused by two genes, A and B. A by itself is good, B by itself is good, A and B together cause male homosexuality which reduces fertility.

    Or even one gene like sickle cell anemia, one copy is good, two copies reduce fertility.

    Replies: @That Would Be Telling

    We’re pretty sure a lot of homosexuality is caused by childhood sexual abuse. Don’t know if anyone’s tried to see if there’s a genetic component to victim susceptibility afterwords, obviously plenty don’t become homosexuals.

    And indeed with the classic example of sickle cell anemia, it’s recessive. One gene for it confers an advantage against malaria, two can? get you the disease (I thought it was more common and worse than “reduce fertility” but I haven’t studied it).

  126. @The Germ Theory of Disease
    @Anon

    "This picture symbolizes how much more beautiful ethnic women are than white women"

    OK good. So stay the f#ck away from the white women, then. Spread the word.

    Replies: @Anon

    No need to spread the word. No one is going for white chicks.

  127. @Anon
    @Coemgen

    Scandinavia is a region. It includes diverse ethnic groups - Finns, Danes, Swedes, Norwegians, Saami, etc. "Scandinavian" is the equivalent of "Mediterranean".

    You're welcome for your white ethnography lesson.

    Anon, teaching white nationalist shitheads basic info about Europe since April 18th, 1993 (first day I got a Macintosh PC).

    Replies: @Coemgen

    “Scandinavian” is the equivalent of “Mediterranean”

    Kind of like “Hispanic” is the equivalent of “Scandinavian.”

    Except that Scandinavians are also a closely connected extended family whereas Hispanics are defined as, well, whatever the Democrats want at define them as—as of the current moment.

    A little advice: If you’re going to try teach, it helps to be smarter and/or better informed than your students.

    • Replies: @Anon
    @Coemgen


    Kind of like “Hispanic” is the equivalent of “Scandinavian.”

    Except that Scandinavians are also a closely connected extended family whereas Hispanics are defined as, well, whatever the Democrats want at define them as—as of the current moment.

    A little advice: If you’re going to try teach, it helps to be smarter and/or better informed than your students.
     

    Did you get hit by a truck and turned in to a retard, or were you simply born that way?

    Scandinavian is a geographical term, denoting someone from Scandinavia. It has nothing to do with culture. Scandinavians most definitely are not an extended family. Finns and Danes aren't related, they belong to two entirely different language families. Same goes for Saami vs. Swede. Strong haploid and HLA leukocyte differences between them also give clear evidence for their very different origins.


    https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/11474212/

    Hispanic is a linguistic term. Obviously all Hispanics are linked by language, among other cultural traditions, regardless of geographic origin.

    A little advice: stop talking and start listening.

    Replies: @Coemgen

  128. Anon[303] • Disclaimer says:
    @Coemgen
    @Anon


    “Scandinavian” is the equivalent of “Mediterranean”
     
    Kind of like "Hispanic" is the equivalent of "Scandinavian."

    Except that Scandinavians are also a closely connected extended family whereas Hispanics are defined as, well, whatever the Democrats want at define them as---as of the current moment.

    A little advice: If you're going to try teach, it helps to be smarter and/or better informed than your students.

    Replies: @Anon

    Kind of like “Hispanic” is the equivalent of “Scandinavian.”

    Except that Scandinavians are also a closely connected extended family whereas Hispanics are defined as, well, whatever the Democrats want at define them as—as of the current moment.

    A little advice: If you’re going to try teach, it helps to be smarter and/or better informed than your students.

    Did you get hit by a truck and turned in to a retard, or were you simply born that way?

    Scandinavian is a geographical term, denoting someone from Scandinavia. It has nothing to do with culture. Scandinavians most definitely are not an extended family. Finns and Danes aren’t related, they belong to two entirely different language families. Same goes for Saami vs. Swede. Strong haploid and HLA leukocyte differences between them also give clear evidence for their very different origins.

    https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/11474212/

    Hispanic is a linguistic term. Obviously all Hispanics are linked by language, among other cultural traditions, regardless of geographic origin.

    A little advice: stop talking and start listening.

    • Replies: @Coemgen
    @Anon


    Hispanic is a linguistic term.
     
    As I stated earlier, hispanic is whatever the Democrats want it to be. Everyone knows that a blue eyed paled skinned Wild Geese descendant--Spanish speaking with a name like O'Dogherty is not hispanic.

    Regarding Scandinavians as a people, everyone knows what that means: Norse, Swedish, Danish, etc. Everyone knows what Scandinavians look like. What they eat. Their design. Their Viking heritage, Etc. Democrat pettifogging that they are only people from a certain geographical area notwithstanding.

    Anyhow, thanks for the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem attack.

    Replies: @Anon

  129. @Leaves No Shadow
    @BB753

    You're a constant presence on the number one neo-Nazi website in the world. You should be delighted.

    Replies: @BB753

    The Unz Review or just Isteve? You’re delusional!

    • Replies: @Leaves No Shadow
    @BB753

    Unz Review, of course.

    Replies: @BB753

  130. @Anon
    @Coemgen


    Kind of like “Hispanic” is the equivalent of “Scandinavian.”

    Except that Scandinavians are also a closely connected extended family whereas Hispanics are defined as, well, whatever the Democrats want at define them as—as of the current moment.

    A little advice: If you’re going to try teach, it helps to be smarter and/or better informed than your students.
     

    Did you get hit by a truck and turned in to a retard, or were you simply born that way?

    Scandinavian is a geographical term, denoting someone from Scandinavia. It has nothing to do with culture. Scandinavians most definitely are not an extended family. Finns and Danes aren't related, they belong to two entirely different language families. Same goes for Saami vs. Swede. Strong haploid and HLA leukocyte differences between them also give clear evidence for their very different origins.


    https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/11474212/

    Hispanic is a linguistic term. Obviously all Hispanics are linked by language, among other cultural traditions, regardless of geographic origin.

    A little advice: stop talking and start listening.

    Replies: @Coemgen

    Hispanic is a linguistic term.

    As I stated earlier, hispanic is whatever the Democrats want it to be. Everyone knows that a blue eyed paled skinned Wild Geese descendant–Spanish speaking with a name like O’Dogherty is not hispanic.

    Regarding Scandinavians as a people, everyone knows what that means: Norse, Swedish, Danish, etc. Everyone knows what Scandinavians look like. What they eat. Their design. Their Viking heritage, Etc. Democrat pettifogging that they are only people from a certain geographical area notwithstanding.

    Anyhow, thanks for the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem attack.

    • Replies: @Anon
    @Coemgen


    As I stated earlier, hispanic is whatever the Democrats want it to be. Everyone knows that a blue eyed paled skinned Wild Geese descendant–Spanish speaking with a name like O’Dogherty is not hispanic.
     
    You mean the blue eyed, pale skinned Hispanics like "Pedro de Alvarado", with their Geranic origin surnames?

    It does not get much more Hispanic than this.

    https://www.maskmuseum.org/wp-content/uploads/Latin-America-Guatemala-Pedro-de-Alvarado-2a.png


    Regarding Scandinavians as a people, everyone knows what that means: Norse, Swedish, Danish, etc. Everyone knows what Scandinavians look like. What they eat. Their design. Their Viking heritage, Etc. Democrat pettifogging that they are only people from a certain geographical area notwithstanding.
     
    No, everyone does not know this. Everyone who graduated high school without cheating knows that Scandinavian means Swedish, Finnish, Saami, Danish, etc. Known for having completely different origins, belonging to two different language families from opposite parts of Eurasia, extremely different genetics, etc. Their "shared" Viking heritage is no more unique to them than it is to Baltic and East Slavic people living to the south and east of them.

    Just face it, you had no idea what "Scandinavian" actually means. It's a geographical term that has nothing to do with ethnicity. I have a Scandinavian birch tree in my backyard. It's not a Viking or a part of some ethnic group. Nobody mistakes it for Swedish people. Unless they be severely low IQ.

    Oh and you're welcome for your add hominy attack. Now call the police department and tell them that you're a giant https://www.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pussy

    Replies: @Coemgen

  131. Anon[110] • Disclaimer says:
    @Coemgen
    @Anon


    Hispanic is a linguistic term.
     
    As I stated earlier, hispanic is whatever the Democrats want it to be. Everyone knows that a blue eyed paled skinned Wild Geese descendant--Spanish speaking with a name like O'Dogherty is not hispanic.

    Regarding Scandinavians as a people, everyone knows what that means: Norse, Swedish, Danish, etc. Everyone knows what Scandinavians look like. What they eat. Their design. Their Viking heritage, Etc. Democrat pettifogging that they are only people from a certain geographical area notwithstanding.

    Anyhow, thanks for the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem attack.

    Replies: @Anon

    As I stated earlier, hispanic is whatever the Democrats want it to be. Everyone knows that a blue eyed paled skinned Wild Geese descendant–Spanish speaking with a name like O’Dogherty is not hispanic.

    You mean the blue eyed, pale skinned Hispanics like “Pedro de Alvarado”, with their Geranic origin surnames?

    It does not get much more Hispanic than this.

    Regarding Scandinavians as a people, everyone knows what that means: Norse, Swedish, Danish, etc. Everyone knows what Scandinavians look like. What they eat. Their design. Their Viking heritage, Etc. Democrat pettifogging that they are only people from a certain geographical area notwithstanding.

    No, everyone does not know this. Everyone who graduated high school without cheating knows that Scandinavian means Swedish, Finnish, Saami, Danish, etc. Known for having completely different origins, belonging to two different language families from opposite parts of Eurasia, extremely different genetics, etc. Their “shared” Viking heritage is no more unique to them than it is to Baltic and East Slavic people living to the south and east of them.

    Just face it, you had no idea what “Scandinavian” actually means. It’s a geographical term that has nothing to do with ethnicity. I have a Scandinavian birch tree in my backyard. It’s not a Viking or a part of some ethnic group. Nobody mistakes it for Swedish people. Unless they be severely low IQ.

    Oh and you’re welcome for your add hominy attack. Now call the police department and tell them that you’re a giant https://www.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pussy

    • Replies: @Coemgen
    @Anon

    You are using an outdated dictionary.

    https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=scandinavian

    https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Hispanic

    You are also, apparently, unaware that ethnic terminology is fungible. Ethnic terminology means whatever the Democrats want it to mean at a particular moment.

    Everyone knows what Scandinavians look like. They have a particular "look" because they are an extended family--not because they were born in Oslo.

    No-one reports that they saw a "north American male" last seen leaving the scene of a crime. No, they say they saw a Hispanic male. How do people know what language someone speaks from their appearance?

  132. @J.Ross
    @Jack D

    If homosexuality wasn't dysgenic, then it wouldn't concentrate where extreme wealth could enable it. Heterosexuality does not require a sponsor, it just happens, even to gays.

    Replies: @Charles Erwin Wilson

    Game. Set. Match. Once again, J.Ross, you thread the needle like Odysseus shooting the arrow through the axe heads.

    I salute you.

  133. @Anon
    @Coemgen


    As I stated earlier, hispanic is whatever the Democrats want it to be. Everyone knows that a blue eyed paled skinned Wild Geese descendant–Spanish speaking with a name like O’Dogherty is not hispanic.
     
    You mean the blue eyed, pale skinned Hispanics like "Pedro de Alvarado", with their Geranic origin surnames?

    It does not get much more Hispanic than this.

    https://www.maskmuseum.org/wp-content/uploads/Latin-America-Guatemala-Pedro-de-Alvarado-2a.png


    Regarding Scandinavians as a people, everyone knows what that means: Norse, Swedish, Danish, etc. Everyone knows what Scandinavians look like. What they eat. Their design. Their Viking heritage, Etc. Democrat pettifogging that they are only people from a certain geographical area notwithstanding.
     
    No, everyone does not know this. Everyone who graduated high school without cheating knows that Scandinavian means Swedish, Finnish, Saami, Danish, etc. Known for having completely different origins, belonging to two different language families from opposite parts of Eurasia, extremely different genetics, etc. Their "shared" Viking heritage is no more unique to them than it is to Baltic and East Slavic people living to the south and east of them.

    Just face it, you had no idea what "Scandinavian" actually means. It's a geographical term that has nothing to do with ethnicity. I have a Scandinavian birch tree in my backyard. It's not a Viking or a part of some ethnic group. Nobody mistakes it for Swedish people. Unless they be severely low IQ.

    Oh and you're welcome for your add hominy attack. Now call the police department and tell them that you're a giant https://www.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pussy

    Replies: @Coemgen

    You are using an outdated dictionary.

    https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=scandinavian

    https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Hispanic

    You are also, apparently, unaware that ethnic terminology is fungible. Ethnic terminology means whatever the Democrats want it to mean at a particular moment.

    Everyone knows what Scandinavians look like. They have a particular “look” because they are an extended family–not because they were born in Oslo.

    No-one reports that they saw a “north American male” last seen leaving the scene of a crime. No, they say they saw a Hispanic male. How do people know what language someone speaks from their appearance?

  134. @BB753
    @Leaves No Shadow

    The Unz Review or just Isteve? You're delusional!

    Replies: @Leaves No Shadow

    Unz Review, of course.

    • Replies: @BB753
    @Leaves No Shadow

    Yeah, this is worse than the Sturmer in it's heyday, lol! Except for Anglin, this place is full of liberals in denial, like Steve Sailer.

  135. @Leaves No Shadow
    @BB753

    Unz Review, of course.

    Replies: @BB753

    Yeah, this is worse than the Sturmer in it’s heyday, lol! Except for Anglin, this place is full of liberals in denial, like Steve Sailer.

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