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Israel now claims to be up to 9.2% of Israelis inoculated. American states are lagging about an order of magnitude behind Israel, although West Virginia and South Dakota are at least respectable.

From the New York Times:

There are bright spots. Some states and hospitals are finding ways to speedily administer the vaccines they have received. West Virginia said on Wednesday that it had finished giving the first round of vaccine doses to willing residents and workers at all of the state’s 214 long-term-care facilities — putting the state far ahead of most other states that began vaccinating at these facilities under a federal program with CVS and Walgreens.

From NBC News:

States Number dosed % Inoculated
West Virginia 44,885 2.5%
South Dakota 21,144 2.4%
New Mexico 41,075 2.0%
Alaska 13,772 1.9%
North Dakota 13,989 1.8%
Vermont 11,200 1.8%
Maine 23,527 1.8%
District of Columbia 11,370 1.6%
Rhode Island 17,020 1.6%
Montana 17,000 1.6%
Connecticut 54,727 1.5%
Colorado 82,342 1.4%
Hawaii 20,000 1.4%
Nebraska 27,000 1.4%
Wyoming 7,472 1.3%
Guam 2,118 1.3%
Tennessee 79,282 1.2%
Indiana 76,000 1.1%
Missouri 66,540 1.1%
New York 203,000 1.0%
Ohio 119,401 1.0%
Arkansas 30,469 1.0%
Illinois 126,211 1.0%
Iowa 31,189 1.0%
Florida 211,165 1.0%
Texas 282,515 1.0%
Louisiana 45,289 1.0%
New Hampshire 13,200 1.0%
Pennsylvania 121,574 0.9%
Massachusetts 65,021 0.9%
Oklahoma 36,969 0.9%
Puerto Rico 28,818 0.9%
Idaho 15,780 0.9%
Delaware 8,495 0.9%
Michigan 86,626 0.9%
Minnesota 48,189 0.9%
Nevada 25,636 0.8%
New Jersey 72,657 0.8%
South Carolina 42,043 0.8%
Wisconsin 47,157 0.8%
Maryland 47,012 0.8%
Kentucky 34,376 0.8%
California 300,696 0.8%
Virginia 64,882 0.8%
Utah 23,970 0.7%
Oregon 31,382 0.7%
North Carolina 73,423 0.7%
Arizona 43,768 0.6%
Mississippi 17,410 0.6%
Georgia 61,870 0.6%
Alabama 26,409 0.5%
Kansas 12,164 0.4%
Washington 30,000 0.4%

The states that are doing best tend to have difficult winter weather at this time of year, whereas the states that are doing worst have fewer climate-related excuses.

 
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  1. American states are lagging about an order of magnitude behind Israel, although West Virginia and South Dakota are at least respectable.

    What happens when poor white folks are allowed to do for themselves without a woke medical bureaucracy.

    • Agree: Bert, Mr. XYZ, Ben tillman
    • Replies: @Jack D
    @JimB

    W. Va. was traditionally among the most backward states but I wonder if that will remain true as the rest of America diversifies - in the land of the blind the one eyed man is king.

    Replies: @Svevlad, @Desiderius, @fredyetagain aka superhonky

    , @Charon
    @JimB

    Trouble in Paradise

    https://www.rt.com/news/511332-israel-vaccination-coronavirus-pfizer/

    Hundreds of Israelis get infected with Covid-19 after receiving Pfizer/BioNTech vaccine

    Be funny if it's something genetic..

    Replies: @That Would Be Telling

  2. @JimB

    American states are lagging about an order of magnitude behind Israel, although West Virginia and South Dakota are at least respectable.
     
    What happens when poor white folks are allowed to do for themselves without a woke medical bureaucracy.

    Replies: @Jack D, @Charon

    W. Va. was traditionally among the most backward states but I wonder if that will remain true as the rest of America diversifies – in the land of the blind the one eyed man is king.

    • Agree: Hibernian, bomag, Desiderius
    • LOL: Mr. XYZ
    • Troll: Je Suis Omar Mateen
    • Replies: @Svevlad
    @Jack D

    Ain't that also a consequence of neglect combined with a somewhat rugged terrain? Heard that some places didn't have electricity way into the 50s

    Replies: @Paperback Writer

    , @Desiderius
    @Jack D

    Well, as a son of the Mountains all I can tell you is that when everyone is headed the wrong direction backward is exactly the right way to be.

    , @fredyetagain aka superhonky
    @Jack D

    What the hell do you mean by 'backward', jew? I served with some West Virginians. They were totally righteous dudes.

    Replies: @Jack D

  3. No wonder white girls like Nikki Haleys daughters prefer Black Men
    https://www.instagram.com/p/CHd_5gphmo1/

    • Troll: IHTG
    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Vine gill buin

    https://www.romeduckstore.it/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/paperella-di-gomma-yoga-F.png.webp

    , @Not Raul
    @Vine gill buin

    This might help Nikki in the cuck primary.

    , @Thoughts
    @Vine gill buin

    Not a real relationship, he's just her friend

    Just putting up the photos implying a relationship for politically correct points

    , @fish
    @Vine gill buin


    No wonder white girls like Nikki Haleys daughters prefer Black Men
     
    Oh the lengths modern teenaged girls will go to in order to upset their mothers.......

    Replies: @Gary in Gramercy

    , @Dan Hayes
    @Vine gill buin

    Who says they’re White?

  4. anon[314] • Disclaimer says:

    There is no real time reporting system for inoculations. So it is just the numbers working their way through the old public health reporting systems. Per the NYT:

    More than 14 million doses of the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines had been sent out across the United States, federal officials said on Wednesday.

    I think at the number of jabs is much higher than the reported number, and may be as high as 10 million. That would be roughly 2/3 of a million doses/day.

    With all eyes on the distribution phase, and Biden already taking credit for it, I think we will quickly see 1 million doses/day given in January. And that would get us close to the OWS goal for Dec and January, will allowances for the second shot.

    Meanwhile any look at the detailed, state by state reporting shows the surge is over. All states except California have been improving for two weeks. and now even California is showing a decrease in daily reported counts. The press can still moan about lagging indicators like hospital admissions, but the upper midwest looks done with this.

    Since September, tens of millions of flu shots have been administered, so even though this is being done on a larger scale, it isn’t something that should take a Herculean effort. And, given that many experts think reported counts are as few as 1/4 of actual cases, given asymptomatics and people with less serious cases who didn’t bother with testing…. that would mean 80 million Americans have already been infected. So we may need as few as 50 to 100 million inoculations to reach an initial population immunity. I won’t call this herd immunity, which refers to a stable equilibrium.

    These exponential surges don’t slowly reverse, they collapse. A collapse in cases will precede an equilibrium which will take a bit longer. But this is going away.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @anon

    Even in California the % of tests coming back as positive has dropped a little over the last week, which ought to be a good sign.

    One question is are there large population centers that haven't had their turn in the barrel yet?

    Southern California wasn't hit much at all in the spring, and took only a modest beating in July, so December to ? is its first big go around.

    I don't think Northern California has been hit hard yet.

    Replies: @Lot, @anon, @JimB, @Hippopotamusdrome, @Peterike, @Buzz Mohawk

  5. • Replies: @Hippopotamusdrome
    @Anonymous

    LOL
    http://www.quickmeme.com/img/2a/2af1a849879b29bf0781d50e0e506630b3f50d66e8faec87e4087269ed9d4f00.jpg

  6. Look at great old Washington State!

    I’ll copy this table down to show all my liberal friends as they endlessly fellate our lame ass guvnah.

    • Replies: @Buffalo Joe
    @ATate

    ATate, few people getting their shots, but more people getting shot. You are achieving liberal Nirvana.Stay safe.

    Replies: @ATate

  7. @anon
    There is no real time reporting system for inoculations. So it is just the numbers working their way through the old public health reporting systems. Per the NYT:

    More than 14 million doses of the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines had been sent out across the United States, federal officials said on Wednesday.
     
    I think at the number of jabs is much higher than the reported number, and may be as high as 10 million. That would be roughly 2/3 of a million doses/day.

    With all eyes on the distribution phase, and Biden already taking credit for it, I think we will quickly see 1 million doses/day given in January. And that would get us close to the OWS goal for Dec and January, will allowances for the second shot.

    Meanwhile any look at the detailed, state by state reporting shows the surge is over. All states except California have been improving for two weeks. and now even California is showing a decrease in daily reported counts. The press can still moan about lagging indicators like hospital admissions, but the upper midwest looks done with this.

    Since September, tens of millions of flu shots have been administered, so even though this is being done on a larger scale, it isn't something that should take a Herculean effort. And, given that many experts think reported counts are as few as 1/4 of actual cases, given asymptomatics and people with less serious cases who didn't bother with testing.... that would mean 80 million Americans have already been infected. So we may need as few as 50 to 100 million inoculations to reach an initial population immunity. I won't call this herd immunity, which refers to a stable equilibrium.

    These exponential surges don't slowly reverse, they collapse. A collapse in cases will precede an equilibrium which will take a bit longer. But this is going away.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    Even in California the % of tests coming back as positive has dropped a little over the last week, which ought to be a good sign.

    One question is are there large population centers that haven’t had their turn in the barrel yet?

    Southern California wasn’t hit much at all in the spring, and took only a modest beating in July, so December to ? is its first big go around.

    I don’t think Northern California has been hit hard yet.

    • Troll: Je Suis Omar Mateen
    • Replies: @Lot
    @Steve Sailer

    “ One question is are there large population centers that haven’t had their turn in the barrel yet?”

    The white parts of California.

    My zip code is under 2% confirmed cases still, and of the 80%+ white/asian zips, they are mostly below 2% and none more than 2.5%.

    The Mexi ones are mostly 5-9%, with two very Mexican zips at outlier rates of 10% and 15%.

    California as a whole is 5.6%, Iowa 8.9%, North Dakota 12.1%, Oregon only 2.7%.

    Slightly outdated: California hispanics are 5.9%, blacks 2.9% whites and asians 2.1%.

    Elsewhere in the USA, whites have been disproportionately hit in the current wave. The formerly much larger black death rate has closed to roughly nothing in most states.

    https://covidtracking.com/race/dashboard

    , @anon
    @Steve Sailer

    Washington and Oregon have gotten off relatively lightly, but I don't expect them to take a big hit. The surge appeared to me to have been a north to south seasonal thing. But Louisiana is doing pretty well, so I think it has pretty much run its course. As far as Northern California, it depends on whether they are more like the Pacific NW or Southern California.

    , @JimB
    @Steve Sailer


    I don’t think Northern California has been hit hard yet.
     
    That’s because Northern California is running all its wind farms in reverse to blow covid out to sea.

    Replies: @Hippopotamusdrome

    , @Hippopotamusdrome
    @Steve Sailer



    in California the % of tests coming back as positive has dropped a little

     

    "the vaxx is out, dial down the cycles a little so it looks like it's working."

    Replies: @U. Ranus

    , @Peterike
    @Steve Sailer

    “ Even in California the % of tests coming back as positive has dropped a little over the last week, which ought to be a good sign.”

    Every “wave” runs its course in 8 to 12 weeks. We’ve known this for decades and deliberately forgot it w Covid, which behaves the same way.

    Why doesn’t everyone understand this by now?

    , @Buzz Mohawk
    @Steve Sailer

    Good God, Steve. Are you a part of some conspiracy, or what?

    Is all this because you live in post-cancer fear, in your closet?

    OR IS THERE MORE TO THIS?

    Do you realize that you do not in this case represent even a pathetic fraction of real people?

    All of what I am alluding to leads to suspicion. Suspicion and doubt about you.

    Replies: @Sparkylyle92, @AKAHorace

  8. Since September, tens of millions of flu shots have been administered, so even though this is being done on a larger scale, it isn’t something that should take a Herculean effort.

    In the spring of 1947 New York City health officials administered somewhere between 2.5 and 4.5 million smallpox vaccines in less than one month after an infected person arrived in the city.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @prosa123

    I


    n the spring of 1947 New York City health officials administered somewhere between 2.5 and 4.5 million smallpox vaccines in less than one month
     
    Hmm, in what ways was the population of NYC different in 1947 than in 2020? The past is literally a different country. NYC today has a majority 3rd world population and it functions as a 3rd world city. And what remains of the white leadership (DeBlasio) actively despises Western civilization. He spits on the racists who ran NY in 1947 .
    , @Reg Cæsar
    @prosa123


    In the spring of 1947 New York City health officials administered somewhere between 2.5 and 4.5 million smallpox vaccines in less than one month after an infected person arrived in the city.

     

    Woody Guthrie?
    , @Johann Ricke
    @prosa123


    In the spring of 1947 New York City health officials administered somewhere between 2.5 and 4.5 million smallpox vaccines in less than one month after an infected person arrived in the city.
     
    The Wikipedia entry says 5m in 2 weeks, and 6.35m in 3:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1947_New_York_City_smallpox_outbreak

    Smallpox is a much more dangerous disease that disfigures a majority of the survivors of one variant, which also kills 30% of the infected, vs ~3% of covid-19, if you take the worst case initial numbers before the vaccine. Simple vanity would have ensured every woman, and most men, signed up to be vaccinated. The odds of death and disfigurement from smallpox were simply frighteningly high across the board.

    http://awareness.who.int/biologicals/vaccines/smallpox/en/

    Two forms of the disease are recognized, variola minor with a mortality rate of approximately 1%, and the more common variola major with a mortality rate of 30%. Between 65–80% of survivors are marked with deep pitted scars (pockmarks), most prominent on the face.
     
    , @Bardon Kaldian
    @prosa123

    Because back then NYC was a city. Now it's a 3rd world shithole.

  9. @prosa123
    Since September, tens of millions of flu shots have been administered, so even though this is being done on a larger scale, it isn’t something that should take a Herculean effort.

    In the spring of 1947 New York City health officials administered somewhere between 2.5 and 4.5 million smallpox vaccines in less than one month after an infected person arrived in the city.

    Replies: @Jack D, @Reg Cæsar, @Johann Ricke, @Bardon Kaldian

    I

    n the spring of 1947 New York City health officials administered somewhere between 2.5 and 4.5 million smallpox vaccines in less than one month

    Hmm, in what ways was the population of NYC different in 1947 than in 2020? The past is literally a different country. NYC today has a majority 3rd world population and it functions as a 3rd world city. And what remains of the white leadership (DeBlasio) actively despises Western civilization. He spits on the racists who ran NY in 1947 .

  10. @prosa123
    Since September, tens of millions of flu shots have been administered, so even though this is being done on a larger scale, it isn’t something that should take a Herculean effort.

    In the spring of 1947 New York City health officials administered somewhere between 2.5 and 4.5 million smallpox vaccines in less than one month after an infected person arrived in the city.

    Replies: @Jack D, @Reg Cæsar, @Johann Ricke, @Bardon Kaldian

    In the spring of 1947 New York City health officials administered somewhere between 2.5 and 4.5 million smallpox vaccines in less than one month after an infected person arrived in the city.

    Woody Guthrie?

    • LOL: AnotherDad
  11. @Vine gill buin
    No wonder white girls like Nikki Haleys daughters prefer Black Men
    https://www.instagram.com/p/CHd_5gphmo1/

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Not Raul, @Thoughts, @fish, @Dan Hayes

  12. I suppose there is a focus on vaccinating people who tend to tend to act as key spreaders or spreaders to the already vulnerable. If it better to spend your time vaccinating the elderly or the nurses at the hospitals who might give an elderly person in hospital for something else the killing blow of covid?

    The nursing and other hospital staff are also likely to be key in spreading outside the hospitals too.

    It’s not entirely an anti-white calculation.

    • Agree: Not Raul
    • Replies: @Jack D
    @Altai


    If it better to spend your time vaccinating the elderly or the nurses at the hospitals who might give an elderly person in hospital for something else the killing blow of covid?
     
    The elderly. Which is easier - to give every cop a bullet proof vest or to find and eliminate all bullets? Even if you vaccinate all medical personnel, the elderly may be infected with covid from other sources - their family, non-medical personnel, etc. If you vaccinated the most vulnerable 20% of the population we could cut Covid deaths by 80% in a matter of weeks. It would then really become "just the flu" and we could reopen our economy. If the elderly person in the hospital has already been vaccinated it doesn't matter if the nurse is infectious.

    All other countries without racial issues understand this and are vaccinating the elderly first. The only reason why we aren't doing so in America is because the elderly are "too white". One of the reasons why W. Va. is doing better is that the state is mostly white so decisions concerning vaccination don't have to get filtered thru the elaborate racial calculus where you have to first figure out where everyone ranks on the diversity totem pole before you can give them a shot.

    Replies: @Wilkey

    , @Wilkey
    @Altai


    I suppose there is a focus on vaccinating people who tend to tend to act as key spreaders or spreaders to the already vulnerable. If it better to spend your time vaccinating the elderly or the nurses at the hospitals who might give an elderly person in hospital for something else the killing blow of covid?
     
    Indeed. Presumably when they're vaccinating the nursing home residents they are vaccinating the employees, as well. It would certainly be the easiest thing to do, logistically, as well - at least for the employees who are on shift.

    Replies: @Buffalo Joe

  13. Charles Murray said give it to the private sector, the government cannot handle things like this, and now a pharmacist has apparently ruined a stash of the chilly ones, possibly not even as a political statement but just a pure mistake.

    • Agree: Not Raul
    • Replies: @Hibernian
    @J.Ross

    It's been reported that he admitted to doing it deliberately.

  14. @Steve Sailer
    @anon

    Even in California the % of tests coming back as positive has dropped a little over the last week, which ought to be a good sign.

    One question is are there large population centers that haven't had their turn in the barrel yet?

    Southern California wasn't hit much at all in the spring, and took only a modest beating in July, so December to ? is its first big go around.

    I don't think Northern California has been hit hard yet.

    Replies: @Lot, @anon, @JimB, @Hippopotamusdrome, @Peterike, @Buzz Mohawk

    “ One question is are there large population centers that haven’t had their turn in the barrel yet?”

    The white parts of California.

    My zip code is under 2% confirmed cases still, and of the 80%+ white/asian zips, they are mostly below 2% and none more than 2.5%.

    The Mexi ones are mostly 5-9%, with two very Mexican zips at outlier rates of 10% and 15%.

    California as a whole is 5.6%, Iowa 8.9%, North Dakota 12.1%, Oregon only 2.7%.

    Slightly outdated: California hispanics are 5.9%, blacks 2.9% whites and asians 2.1%.

    Elsewhere in the USA, whites have been disproportionately hit in the current wave. The formerly much larger black death rate has closed to roughly nothing in most states.

    https://covidtracking.com/race/dashboard

  15. anon[314] • Disclaimer says:
    @Steve Sailer
    @anon

    Even in California the % of tests coming back as positive has dropped a little over the last week, which ought to be a good sign.

    One question is are there large population centers that haven't had their turn in the barrel yet?

    Southern California wasn't hit much at all in the spring, and took only a modest beating in July, so December to ? is its first big go around.

    I don't think Northern California has been hit hard yet.

    Replies: @Lot, @anon, @JimB, @Hippopotamusdrome, @Peterike, @Buzz Mohawk

    Washington and Oregon have gotten off relatively lightly, but I don’t expect them to take a big hit. The surge appeared to me to have been a north to south seasonal thing. But Louisiana is doing pretty well, so I think it has pretty much run its course. As far as Northern California, it depends on whether they are more like the Pacific NW or Southern California.

  16. I’m puzzled by how poorly Washington is doing.

    Could this be due to some weird artifact in the data?

    Washington was one of the early leaders in testing; and like West Virginia & South Dakota, has a large German-American population.

    • Replies: @Bill P
    @Not Raul

    No, it's real.

    https://www.opb.org/article/2020/12/31/washington-covid-19-coronavirus-vaccine/

    There may be a lot of ethnic Germans in WA, but the state's health secretary, Umair Shah, is Pakistani. I'd say he's off to a very poor start, but time will tell. Honestly, I wouldn't expect better from a white democrat here in Washington -- even a German one. This state's leadership class is well below the US average. Look at our contributions to congress. Only Oregon makes us look decent in comparison.

    , @Thoughts
    @Not Raul

    Hypochondriac leftist whites

    Covid is a cool thing to get, not a bad thing. Think of all the facebook sympathy plus you get to say to your conservative friends 'It's Real!'

    I said to someone at New Year's Yesterday...The only people who get Covid are people who believe in Covid

    Replies: @Je Suis Omar Mateen, @Jack D, @Wielgus

    , @Hibernian
    @Not Raul

    One of my Dad's friends was a priest from Wheeling WV named Niehaus, but I don't think WV is all that German.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

  17. @Vine gill buin
    No wonder white girls like Nikki Haleys daughters prefer Black Men
    https://www.instagram.com/p/CHd_5gphmo1/

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Not Raul, @Thoughts, @fish, @Dan Hayes

    This might help Nikki in the cuck primary.

  18. @Steve Sailer
    @anon

    Even in California the % of tests coming back as positive has dropped a little over the last week, which ought to be a good sign.

    One question is are there large population centers that haven't had their turn in the barrel yet?

    Southern California wasn't hit much at all in the spring, and took only a modest beating in July, so December to ? is its first big go around.

    I don't think Northern California has been hit hard yet.

    Replies: @Lot, @anon, @JimB, @Hippopotamusdrome, @Peterike, @Buzz Mohawk

    I don’t think Northern California has been hit hard yet.

    That’s because Northern California is running all its wind farms in reverse to blow covid out to sea.

    • Replies: @Hippopotamusdrome
    @JimB



    California is running all its wind farms in reverse to blow covid

     

    Ken Copeland's Wind Of God REMIX - WTFBRAHH
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m2s0nB2VPvs
  19. @Jack D
    @JimB

    W. Va. was traditionally among the most backward states but I wonder if that will remain true as the rest of America diversifies - in the land of the blind the one eyed man is king.

    Replies: @Svevlad, @Desiderius, @fredyetagain aka superhonky

    Ain’t that also a consequence of neglect combined with a somewhat rugged terrain? Heard that some places didn’t have electricity way into the 50s

    • Replies: @Paperback Writer
    @Svevlad

    Rural electrification in the US wasn't completed until the mid-1960s.

  20. @Steve Sailer
    @anon

    Even in California the % of tests coming back as positive has dropped a little over the last week, which ought to be a good sign.

    One question is are there large population centers that haven't had their turn in the barrel yet?

    Southern California wasn't hit much at all in the spring, and took only a modest beating in July, so December to ? is its first big go around.

    I don't think Northern California has been hit hard yet.

    Replies: @Lot, @anon, @JimB, @Hippopotamusdrome, @Peterike, @Buzz Mohawk

    in California the % of tests coming back as positive has dropped a little

    “the vaxx is out, dial down the cycles a little so it looks like it’s working.”

    • Agree: U. Ranus, BB753
    • Replies: @U. Ranus
    @Hippopotamusdrome

    The rushed tests, the lack of standards (e.g. cycle count) and the flawed statistics wrung out of testing should have been iSteve material.

    The fact that Steve never wrote about the hilariously easy to game testing s**tshow suggests that when it comes to CoronaPanic, we're not getting "organic" iSteve content.

    Replies: @Bill Jones, @Matt Buckalew

  21. Happy New Year!

    Look at this cool light show at the Seattle Space Needle. It’s well worth watching.

  22. Take a knee for George. Apologies if this has already been noted. Happy New Year.

    https://www.irishcentral.com/news/george-nkencho-dublin

    “During an incident at the EuroSpar business premises in Hartstown Shopping Centre a male staff member received facial injuries and is currently receiving medical attention in Connolly Memorial Hospital.

    “Subsequently a second public order incident was reported at the Post Office in the Hartstown Shopping Centre.

    “Uniform, unarmed Gardaí responded to the scene and observed a male in possession of a knife. The male continued to threaten members of the public and unarmed Gardaí with the knife.

    “Gardai followed the male on foot and in vehicles from the Hartstown Shopping Centre towards Manorsfields Drive, Dublin 15. During this period Gardaí were engaging with the male and encouraging him to drop the weapon.

    “Members of the Armed Support Unit arrived at a scene in Manorfields Drive, Dublin 15. The Armed Support Unit were also threatened with a knife and implemented a graduated response where the use of less-lethal force options (taser and OC spray) was initially administered in an effort to resolve the incident. The less-lethal use of force options were unsuccessful.

    “At approximately 12:35 pm a member of the Armed Support Unit discharged a number of shots from his official firearm shooting the male.

    “The male was treated at the scene by Garda Armed Support Unit paramedics and Dublin Fire Brigade paramedics and transferred to Connolly Hospital Blanchardstown.

    “The male was pronounced dead at Connolly Memorial Hospital.

    Naturally the Irish chapter of BLM are on the scene where the supermarket manager got stabbed, abusing white customers.

    and attacking buses

    https://twitter.com/McguireScotty/status/1344957511707873280

    “Wear dark clothing and cover up any identifying signs” – this tweet is so woke it makes you wonder if its Russian disinfo 😉

    https://twitter.com/BlackQueerBC/status/1344942960543211520

    • Replies: @Gary in Gramercy
    @YetAnotherAnon

    "Black Queer Book Club."

    My hardcore lounge Arthur Lee, Scott Walker and Serge Gainsbourg cover band -- formerly known as "The People's Front of Judea" -- just got a new name.

    , @Dan Hayes
    @YetAnotherAnon

    As is their wont, the complete “Irish Central” article gives their usual BLM spin!

    For the realistic “spin” on this ongoing atrocity, you are referred to yesterday’s issue of “The Burkean”!

    Replies: @Dan Hayes, @Dan Hayes, @Dan Hayes

  23. That’s right, neurotic virus cucks. Take the jab, don’t want to get the deadly Covid, wear your mask, stay inside.

    • Thanks: BB753
  24. Toto, I don’t think we are in Kansas any more. We must be in West Virginia.

    Trouble is if you give too many vaccines at once, then giving vaccines becomes a super-spreader event.

    This problem has not existed in the same manner in previous mass vaccination drives where assembly line methods for signing paperwork, preparing shots, giving shots, and applying band-aids could be used to move patients through quickly.

    • LOL: Kyle
  25. I am surprised that Steve has not yet looked at the question of whether those nations with higher average IQ have done any better in controlling the pandemic.

    It is worth Noticing

    • Agree: Bardon Kaldian
  26. @Anonymous
    https://www.cnbc.com/2020/12/31/west-virginia-mistakenly-gives-42-peoplegiven-regeneron-iv-covid-treatment-instead-of-vaccine-shot-west-virginia-national-guard-says-.html

    Replies: @Hippopotamusdrome

    LOL

  27. Anon[299] • Disclaimer says:

    The West Point cheating scandal is both entertaining and depressing.

    A bunch of mostly black athlete cadets, 73 in all, cheated on a calculus test given remotely because of Covid. Calculus for black athletes? LOL.

    The athletes were allowed to play in a bowl game because the investigation is ongoing. Imagine if a white cadet had been accused of an n-word or such infraction. Would they wait for an investigation?

    The superintendent of the school is a black general who has decided that the honor code “has resulted in an inequitable application of consequences and developmental opportunities for select groups of cadets.” His white minion said that the cheating wouldn’t have happened if it weren’t a remote learning situation … uh, so what?

    Background: White cadets have been summarily expelled, 150 at once in 1975, 90 or so a decade or two before that. 125 at one time from the Air Force Academy.

    I know they have to find makework jobs for black “generals” or else they’d be commanding actual military units, but they can still cause trouble.

    • Replies: @Buffalo Joe
    @Anon

    TwoNineNine, well the commandant is now in the service of a POTUS, biden, who is a certified plagiarist. So cheating will be acceptable.

    , @clyde
    @Anon

    I was unaware of this West Point cheating scandal. Black affaleetes cheating on calculus exams that are given remotely due to CovidX. Who woulda thunk it.

    , @Hibernian
    @Anon


    His white minion said that the cheating wouldn’t have happened if it weren’t a remote learning situation … uh, so what?
     
    There's no proctor present when a Lieutenant radios in the position of his platoon.
    , @Rob
    @Anon


    The superintendent of the school is a black general who has decided that the honor code “has resulted in an inequitable application of consequences and developmental opportunities for select groups of cadets.” His white minion said that the cheating wouldn’t have happened if it weren’t a remote learning situation … uh, so what?
     
    This illustrates multiple species of bad. There are nearly uncountable ways AA damages organizations. Before I mention a few of those, I’d like to say that if any of us said that honor codes hurt blacks disproportionately, we would be cancelled for life. This is an own goal of the same caliber as Jews complaining that schools incorporating character as admission criteria was anti-Semitic,

    Some of the ways AA damages an organization:

    1) AA at even the lowest level inevitably causes AA all the way to the top. We see this with black fire fighters. (Either literally or virtuslly) no black can score well enough on the test to be a fireman, Black activist group sues. Jewish judges order first find a wider pool of blacks. Give the blacks test prep. Then rewrite the test. Then just accept some rando dumb blacks. Typically the very worst, as they are the ones who did not get other jobs over the decade the case went through the courts.

    The AA blacks are inevitably the worst performers. ‘Supervisors say every black is worthless? Only possible explanation is racism’, says a judge. Every black achieves (trying not to say ‘gets’ or ‘receives for grades etc) a lower score on the test for promotions? Merry go round of expanding the pool, test prep... finally the judge orders that some rando blacks be promoted. Rinse and repeat for every level of promotion.

    Now newspapers have been filled for decades with stories about the struggle of poor, noble blacks in this institutionally racist institution. The only solution? Pick a black to run the organization. Leading to:

    2) Blacks in charge syndrome. SomeRacial-grievance focused ‘leadership’ leads to poor management of every aspect of an organization’s makeup and function. With a few token non-whites in positions of responsibility, the organization can mostly function by rerouting actual work and responsibility around the AA AA. This is unfair to the white employees who do all the work without appropriate recognition, which hurts their resumes, or compensation, but the organization mostly fulfills it’s role. Once the termites have eaten enough of the structure, the building begins to fail.

    4) The mission of the organization turns from whatever it was they were supposed to be doing to providing for the HNiC’s family and friends. The better sort will at least try to help a wider swathe of blacks than just his homies, but inevitably, the mission falters. The commandant above has twisted the service academy’s mission to ‘win games’ and push dumb blacks into the organization. Don’t let training or HR get captured. It can kill a company in the long run. Usually longer than the time served of any one person. Average CEO stays in the job for what, like five years? No need to rock the boat. At least don’t let the BIC portion of the institution make personnel decisions. That applies to HR captured by anyone with an agenda. Feminists, blacks, gays, Indians... even an alt-rightie, I guess.

    3) The non-blacks a BIC organization hires and promotes are sub-par, as the commendant’s minion above. They are the worst toFirst, the incapable blacks are not capable of recognizing ability and do not want to hire people who are stiff competition. Secondly, most whites don’t want to work for blacks, recognizing that most blacks in management roles do not belong there. Some liberal whites just out of school get a good doggy feeling from working for a black, but that soon hits reality. This will happen to many a woke woman. The rationalizations will be wonderful.

    In a for-profit company a few things can happen, the business can sink into the muck of not very good businesses with poor employees and poor management, but hey, the dumbs gotta work somewhere. Another possibility is that someone who matters has his compensation cut, and divisions get reorganized. If the problem went to the very top, the owner’s or shareholders’ return is negatively influenced enough that the board gets rid of a bad CEO despite negative publicity. A final possibility is that the business fails, or the division gets sold, often there is just a hollow shell of a business, and not much value can be extracted.

    In a government agency, many non-profits, or especially the military, no decision-maker’s salary is on the line, and the problem festers. The military had an up or out system that kept the Peter Principle to a manageable level, I don’t know if they still do that. Even if they do, it may not be enough to counter dumbversity mandates.

    All society’s institutions have been captured. Only a matter of time before the wheels come off...

    Replies: @3g4me, @Jack D, @Fidelios Automata

  28. @JimB
    @Steve Sailer


    I don’t think Northern California has been hit hard yet.
     
    That’s because Northern California is running all its wind farms in reverse to blow covid out to sea.

    Replies: @Hippopotamusdrome

    California is running all its wind farms in reverse to blow covid

    Supply and Demand says:

    I guess we’ll know what the fruits of the rapid vax are when the WV birthrate flatlines.

  • As far as the States go, one might look for a correlation between the IQ of the governor and the success rate in controlling the pandemic and in getting population vaccinated.

    In Republican controlled States you would expect there to be greater dependence on on private enterprise and financial incentives for getting the job done, and in the blue States on government actions.

    It is interesting that in communist Britain, doctors are being offered a bounty of $15 for each residential home older person being vaccinated, thus combining financial incentives with socialized medicine.

    The only problem I see with this is that the bounty being paid to doctors in the UK will actually cost more than the recently-approved AstraZeneca vaccine that comes in at $4 a shot.

    • Replies: @Buffalo Joe
    @Jonathan Mason

    Jonathan, in the San Francisco Chronicle (SF Gate) the lack of vaccine distribution is being laid at Trump's feet, even though the failure belongs to newsum. We will see how this proceeds when biden ascends the throne.

    Replies: @Jonathan Mason

  • @Hippopotamusdrome
    @Steve Sailer



    in California the % of tests coming back as positive has dropped a little

     

    "the vaxx is out, dial down the cycles a little so it looks like it's working."

    Replies: @U. Ranus

    The rushed tests, the lack of standards (e.g. cycle count) and the flawed statistics wrung out of testing should have been iSteve material.

    The fact that Steve never wrote about the hilariously easy to game testing s**tshow suggests that when it comes to CoronaPanic, we’re not getting “organic” iSteve content.

    • Agree: BB753
    • Replies: @Bill Jones
    @U. Ranus

    These guys get the PCR test scam about right.
    https://freewestmedia.com/2020/12/20/who-finally-admits-that-pcr-tests-are-unreliable/

    , @Matt Buckalew
    @U. Ranus

    Lol what did you expect Ron Unz was literally the point man the deep state ran out to derail Prop 187.


    A lot of really silly people ignore this because Ron hates Israel and is clearly intimidated but by black athleticism and dick game. Ron is certified cathedral albeit one who has largely been cut loose but eager to work his way back in.

    Guys like tucker and steve aren’t actually gonna rock the boat.

    Replies: @BB753

  • @prosa123
    Since September, tens of millions of flu shots have been administered, so even though this is being done on a larger scale, it isn’t something that should take a Herculean effort.

    In the spring of 1947 New York City health officials administered somewhere between 2.5 and 4.5 million smallpox vaccines in less than one month after an infected person arrived in the city.

    Replies: @Jack D, @Reg Cæsar, @Johann Ricke, @Bardon Kaldian

    In the spring of 1947 New York City health officials administered somewhere between 2.5 and 4.5 million smallpox vaccines in less than one month after an infected person arrived in the city.

    The Wikipedia entry says 5m in 2 weeks, and 6.35m in 3:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1947_New_York_City_smallpox_outbreak

    Smallpox is a much more dangerous disease that disfigures a majority of the survivors of one variant, which also kills 30% of the infected, vs ~3% of covid-19, if you take the worst case initial numbers before the vaccine. Simple vanity would have ensured every woman, and most men, signed up to be vaccinated. The odds of death and disfigurement from smallpox were simply frighteningly high across the board.

    http://awareness.who.int/biologicals/vaccines/smallpox/en/

    Two forms of the disease are recognized, variola minor with a mortality rate of approximately 1%, and the more common variola major with a mortality rate of 30%. Between 65–80% of survivors are marked with deep pitted scars (pockmarks), most prominent on the face.

  • @ATate
    Look at great old Washington State!

    I’ll copy this table down to show all my liberal friends as they endlessly fellate our lame ass guvnah.

    Replies: @Buffalo Joe

    ATate, few people getting their shots, but more people getting shot. You are achieving liberal Nirvana.Stay safe.

    • Replies: @ATate
    @Buffalo Joe

    I’m on the east side of the state. My betters on the cool side sneeringly refer to us as rednecks and meth heads. Then they have the unmitigated gall to come over here for low real estate prices. And then vote here the exact same way they did back in their cosmopolitan Valhalla they just left.

    I used to defend my home to them. Now I “Lean In”. It’s horribly racists here. Dangerous rednecks abound. Stay far away ooga booguh!!!

    The larpers started some shit after “mourning” big floyd the dead loser and our Republican Mayor stamped their shit out post haste.

    I hope they stay there and enjoy their amazing restaurants while I watch their city burn.

    Replies: @Buffalo Joe

  • @Jonathan Mason
    As far as the States go, one might look for a correlation between the IQ of the governor and the success rate in controlling the pandemic and in getting population vaccinated.

    In Republican controlled States you would expect there to be greater dependence on on private enterprise and financial incentives for getting the job done, and in the blue States on government actions.

    It is interesting that in communist Britain, doctors are being offered a bounty of $15 for each residential home older person being vaccinated, thus combining financial incentives with socialized medicine.

    The only problem I see with this is that the bounty being paid to doctors in the UK will actually cost more than the recently-approved AstraZeneca vaccine that comes in at $4 a shot.

    Replies: @Buffalo Joe

    Jonathan, in the San Francisco Chronicle (SF Gate) the lack of vaccine distribution is being laid at Trump’s feet, even though the failure belongs to newsum. We will see how this proceeds when biden ascends the throne.

    • Replies: @Jonathan Mason
    @Buffalo Joe

    Oh absolutely, it's ridiculous to blame the Federal government or to blame a doddery old man in Washington for issues relating to the logistics of vaccine distribution.

    Each of the States is bigger than many small nations, and California is larger and wealthier than all but the largest nations in the world,.

    So if tiny independent nations like Barbados can completely develop and run their own policies, testing procedures, vaccination procedures and so on it is ridiculous to think that states of the United States cannot fend for themselves, and state governments and legislatures should accept full responsibility for health care in the territories they govern.

    But having said that, the CDC, which exists solely for the purpose of controlling diseases, has performed absolutely abysmally right from the start in making recommendations that States can follow.

    We thought that the CDC was the world's premier disease control organisation, but it appears that it is no more effective than the Bermuda department of health that serves 75, 000 people.

    A lot of heads should roll.

    Trump has supported initiatives that made it easier to develop and market the vaccines much faster than normal, for example the venture financing that made it possible to manufacture millions of doses before the drugs were approved for use, which would not normally be done.

    To what extent this was really Trump's idea, or just something that anybody would have done I don't know. There doesn't seem to be in any partisan opposition to using government funds to accelerate vaccine development, and the Russian and Chinese vaccine seem to have come through in the same time frame, and even the Finlay institute in Cuba has a vaccine now in trials.

    On the other hand we have a situation where the AstraZeneca vaccine has now been approved in the UK, that is not expected to obtain approval in the US until April, which is a big time gap. The AstraZeneca vaccine has the massive advantage of being much cheaper, and also much easier to distribute.

    And I don't think anybody is trusting the Russian vaccine although it is already being rolled out in Argentina and Venezuela, which were once United States areas of influence.

    No one in Congress seems to be asking the right questions, which is standard operating procedure.

    Replies: @Bardon Kaldian, @Buffalo Joe, @AnotherDad, @clyde

  • Wasn’t WV higher in Oxycontin prescriptions as well? I have no idea if there is some insidious connection or not. Maybe it is as simple as WV nurses don’t make TikTok videos. Still it is nice to see how “bad” PA is doing. You also should have seen how many weren’t wearing masks at the grocery store yesterday. There is still some hope for liberty. I know science says take a relatively fancy new and unproven vaccine because they need the money and are financially backed by some serious one world psychos.

  • @Buffalo Joe
    @Jonathan Mason

    Jonathan, in the San Francisco Chronicle (SF Gate) the lack of vaccine distribution is being laid at Trump's feet, even though the failure belongs to newsum. We will see how this proceeds when biden ascends the throne.

    Replies: @Jonathan Mason

    Oh absolutely, it’s ridiculous to blame the Federal government or to blame a doddery old man in Washington for issues relating to the logistics of vaccine distribution.

    Each of the States is bigger than many small nations, and California is larger and wealthier than all but the largest nations in the world,.

    So if tiny independent nations like Barbados can completely develop and run their own policies, testing procedures, vaccination procedures and so on it is ridiculous to think that states of the United States cannot fend for themselves, and state governments and legislatures should accept full responsibility for health care in the territories they govern.

    But having said that, the CDC, which exists solely for the purpose of controlling diseases, has performed absolutely abysmally right from the start in making recommendations that States can follow.

    We thought that the CDC was the world’s premier disease control organisation, but it appears that it is no more effective than the Bermuda department of health that serves 75, 000 people.

    A lot of heads should roll.

    Trump has supported initiatives that made it easier to develop and market the vaccines much faster than normal, for example the venture financing that made it possible to manufacture millions of doses before the drugs were approved for use, which would not normally be done.

    To what extent this was really Trump’s idea, or just something that anybody would have done I don’t know. There doesn’t seem to be in any partisan opposition to using government funds to accelerate vaccine development, and the Russian and Chinese vaccine seem to have come through in the same time frame, and even the Finlay institute in Cuba has a vaccine now in trials.

    On the other hand we have a situation where the AstraZeneca vaccine has now been approved in the UK, that is not expected to obtain approval in the US until April, which is a big time gap. The AstraZeneca vaccine has the massive advantage of being much cheaper, and also much easier to distribute.

    And I don’t think anybody is trusting the Russian vaccine although it is already being rolled out in Argentina and Venezuela, which were once United States areas of influence.

    No one in Congress seems to be asking the right questions, which is standard operating procedure.

    • Replies: @Bardon Kaldian
    @Jonathan Mason

    American Congress?

    But- they're already on my list ....

    https://www.unz.com/isteve/personality-profiles-of-rival-movies-such-as-forrest-gump-and-pulp-fiction/#comment-4323289

    , @Buffalo Joe
    @Jonathan Mason

    Jon, Gold Border worthy comment, but the Gold Border is as hard to get as a Nobel Peace Prize or Emmy. Just kidding, excellent comment! Stay safe.

    , @AnotherDad
    @Jonathan Mason


    But having said that, the CDC, which exists solely for the purpose of controlling diseases, has performed absolutely abysmally right from the start in making recommendations that States can follow.
     
    Spot on.

    We thought that the CDC was the world’s premier disease control organisation, but it appears that it is no more effective than the Bermuda department of health that serves 75, 000 people.

     

    Quibble here. Having had to wear a tight cap during the 2014 Ebola deal to keep my head from exploding, i already knew the CDC''s primary mission was fighting racism and xenophobia, helping Africa and opposing tired old concepts like borders, quarantines.

    A lot of heads should roll.
     
    Key word, "should". Trump's inability/unwillingness to manage, to hold people to account--appalling. Biden? LOL ... they did exactly what he wanted. Sowed confusion, fanned the epidemic, tanked the economy. They are heroes!

    ~~

    As with everything else in the modern West it comes down to minoritarianism.

    A competent, nationalist "white guy" style CDC we could have spent 2020 basking pleasantly behind closed borders (a few thousands of people doing short stints in quarantine at remote military bases) living life as per normal ... while the world stumbled through this thing.

    , @clyde
    @Jonathan Mason

    The CDC is in Atlanta Georgia. Who do you think is staffing this maximally bollixed up USG agency?

  • https://www.lewrockwell.com/2020/12/gary-d-barnett/dr-igor-shepherds-talk-about-the-horrors-of-the-covid-vaccine-full-transcript/

    By all means, hurry up and get your vaccine.

    Important additional info: half of all Medical Pro’s across Europe and the USA refusing the vaccines. Hey, they are all hysterical conspiracy theorists. Take your conspiracy theory pick:

    1. The vaccine is a kill switch designed to wipe out billions.

    2. The vaccine is a protection from a kill switch, a viral weapon which already exists, designed to kill the unvaccinated.

    3. The vaccines are part of a greater control system (that much is an absolute fact) but also a multibillion dollar cash cow, unproven, untested, but very profitable for TPTB.

    • Replies: @Rob
    @theMann

    I do not agree with any of the points one through three.

    I just want to point at that the professional-managerial class and above are atrocious. The educational system is dedicated to destroying the meritocracy and putting 90 IQ mulatto women in commissar roles in every public and private organization.

    There is a political party dedicated to hurting whites. Many of that party’s white supporters think that they are excepted. Perhaps Jews do feel that white liberals are different than the white deplorables they hate and fear, and liberals certainly hate conservatives plenty even without Jews’ influence, but when the POC say whites, they mean all of us.

    There is another political party with many goals: helping Israel, killing A-rabs. Transferring wealth to defense contractors. Moving the physical capital of America to Asia, which they think has a docile, obedient workforce and pragmatic, amoral elites who will let wealthy whites flee there to be rich and influential when they have drained America dry.

    Both parties have betrayed America’s historic majority. They despise us for letting them, they fear our reaction when the wheels come off and we realize what they have done. Through their 100% effective effort in thwarting Candidate Trump they have incontrovertibly proven that democracy is dead, though voting will continue for..,years, decades. It does not matter to us, as the new people the bipartisan elite have imported broke Democracy even without the hostile elite’s total control.

    Despite both parties being equally guilty in killing America, the two wings of the political elite absolutely hate each other. If they weren’t completely parasitic and actually tried to implement policies that their constituents want, we would have open warfare. As it is, the only tool that either political set will use to please their voters is using style to anger the opposing side. Take Obama. He did not do much that would please progressives. All he did for them was send conservatives into flaming hot rage. Ditto Trump, the only Trump supporter who has any material reason to be pleased with Trump is Sheldon Adelson. But a lot of conservatives, including many people here, who really should no better, liked Trump because he pissed off liberals.

    Neither party will do anything for either their voters or to draw in new supporters from the non-voters or marginal supporters of the other side. Some of this is driven by financing considerations. The ideologues who support both parties, but especially the Democrats, are doing fine. They do not have strong unmet material needs. They donate to their blue warriors whenever they denounce Trump. The Republican donors are doing fine off outsourcing production and insourcing aliens, which has the double benefit of depressing wages and raising rents.

    The voting bases? They are hurting. Blacks will never do well in any modern economy, so let’s discount them. But everyone else? A huge number vote against their interests because that pisses off the other sides partisans. But doing anything that your voters want gives them one less reason to vote for you next time. Carl Rove, I believe, stated this. Plus, doing stuff for voters takes time and energy away from what they think they’re doing, looting an endless piggy bank, and what they’re actually doing, murdering a very ill nation. A dead nation whose carcass will provide very few of the parasites with great wealth they can take away from it.

    The partisans are so filled with flaming-hot rage, they cannot see that the other side’s voters (not the elite) has legitimate interests. Every so often, they apply this to elections and lose, like when Clinton’s campaign staff thought they did not have to convince racist whites to vote for them. The left also could not understand that millions of people supported Trump because they wanted their $7.25/hr Wal-Mart jobs replaced with their $40/hour factory jobs they lost when the capitalists moved the factories to x. Nope, they supported Trump because racism.

    Finally, to end a comment that is much too long, I’ll get to my point. That the elite is so untrustworthy that roughly half the country thinks the coronavirus is fake, the election was stolen, and the vaccine is genocide...that country will not live long,

  • As with just about everything else about this pandemic, it seems impossible to get a straight answer about a phenomenon of major importance. Why is there such an enormous lag in the numbers of vaccinated, compared to the number of doses distributed?

    Reporting lag? Reluctance to take the vaccine? Improper allocation of doses? General bureaucratic incompetence at the state level in allocating vaccines?

    2020 is perhaps the year in which we fully realized there are no adults in any room. You can’t trust the bureaucrats, you can’t trust political leaders, you can’t trust the journalists, you can’t trust the scientists, you can’t trust the experts, there are no institutions worthy of your respect. It’s facades behind facades.

    You’ve got your own brain and your own judgment, and that’s all you’ve got. We are alone on this earth.

    • Replies: @Justvisiting
    @candid_observer


    you can’t trust the experts
     
    "Experts" these days are defined as somebody on some big institution/corporation's payroll who have an agenda to f&^% you over....

    All these "public service" advertisements showing smiling black people taking the vaccine have me lol.

    They are hunting for someone with a low enough IQ to actually believe the "experts".
    , @That Would Be Telling
    @candid_observer


    As with just about everything else about this pandemic, it seems impossible to get a straight answer about a phenomenon of major importance. Why is there such an enormous lag in the numbers of vaccinated, compared to the number of doses distributed?

    Reporting lag?
     
    Also errors by the CDC, I copied the Wednesday the 30th numbers that day not all that long after the update, and note today on the massively upgraded page a total of 205,463 additional 1st doses administered were added. So a New, Improved number of 667,000 1st doses were reported from Monday to Wednesday. Before that, or maybe including some of the additional doses, 1.2 million were administered from the 24th to 28th.

    Given how long it took the FDA to grant Emergency Use Authorizations (EUAs), 21 days for Pfizer/BioNTech on 12/11, 18 days for Moderna on 12/18, add the limited number of places that can store Pfizer/BioNTech's vaccine so many locations were simply slotted to get Moderna's, Pfizer's ORANGE MAN BAD "Oops! We've going to miss our early promises by one half," these are not bad numbers. Note also as new targets of distribution and vaccination start, like long term care facilities, 2,166,200/167,149 as of Wednesday, there will be new learning curves to master.

    The web page is a lot more interesting now, they've added a map for which you can change what it displays and how, and that section also breaks out states, territories, and four Federal entities. There's also a "Federal Pharmacy Partnership for Long-Term Care Program (Subset of Overall Numbers)" from which I got the above numbers.

    Reporting lag is definitely a part of it, especially since that's the very least important part of the whole process, and this is a concentrated holiday season, it's perfectly fine for people in the public health system to take time off and delay reporting right now. Kansas is claiming that's behind their worst or nearly worst status, but it could also be a Democratic governor who's been at war with most of the rest of the state since the pandemic started. And as always to avoid embarrassing mistakes like that Johns Hopkins video maker, read the CDC's fine print about the data. Here's the most relevant info:

    Doses distributed and people initiating vaccination (1st dose received) ... reflect current data available as of 9:00am ET on the day of reporting. Data will be regularly updated on Monday, Wednesday and Friday. Updates will occur the following day when reporting coincides with a federal holiday.

    Healthcare providers report doses to federal, state, territorial, and local agencies up to 72 hours after administration. There may be additional lag for data to be transmitted from the federal, state, territorial, or local agency to CDC. A large difference between the number of doses distributed and the number of people initiating vaccination is expected at this point in the COVID vaccination program due to several factors, including delays in reporting of administered doses and management of available vaccine stocks by jurisdictions and federal pharmacy partners.

    Numbers reported on CDC’s website are validated through a submission process with each jurisdiction....

    This [Long-term care facility (LTCF)] data does not include doses distributed and administered to LTCF residents and staff outside the Federal Pharmacy Partnership Program....
     
    This page has information about the reporting systems which are mentioned in the fine print.

    Replies: @anon

    , @Jack D
    @candid_observer

    Scary but true. Our institutions are rotten from the inside. They are like a termite ridden tree - the surface may appear intact but it is just a shell concealing the rot within. The enemy is within the gates. Their missions have been subverted. The mission of the public health establishment is not public health, it is "DIE". The mission of the government establishment is DIE. The mission of the scientific establishment is DIE. The mission of the journalistic establishment is DIE. Their ostensible goals have all be subordinated to the Prime Directive. Every hiring decision, every policy decision, is tainted with DIE.

    The white males who made things run have all been MeTooed or cowed into submission. Their diverse replacements are at best incompetent and ineffectual and at worst have actively steered their institutions way from their former goals. The CDC was concerned with "epidemics" of fast food and gun violence in the minority community instead of actual epidemics. As an Atlanta based organization, they were staffed mostly with black incompetents.

    And the scary thing is that you ain't seen nothin' yet. There is still some residual white male talent, even if it is elderly and a little wokish (though not fully Woke). Guys like Biden and Fauci. These guys were never that good but what comes after them is even worse, much worse. Après eux, le déluge.

    Replies: @Justvisiting, @BenKenobi

    , @Bert
    @candid_observer


    You’ve got your own brain and your own judgment, and that’s all you’ve got. We are alone on this earth.

     

    Today I posted similar evidence and the same conclusion as yours in a different thread. The only solace is having a wife or close friend who is also rational.
  • @candid_observer
    As with just about everything else about this pandemic, it seems impossible to get a straight answer about a phenomenon of major importance. Why is there such an enormous lag in the numbers of vaccinated, compared to the number of doses distributed?

    Reporting lag? Reluctance to take the vaccine? Improper allocation of doses? General bureaucratic incompetence at the state level in allocating vaccines?

    2020 is perhaps the year in which we fully realized there are no adults in any room. You can't trust the bureaucrats, you can't trust political leaders, you can't trust the journalists, you can't trust the scientists, you can't trust the experts, there are no institutions worthy of your respect. It's facades behind facades.

    You've got your own brain and your own judgment, and that's all you've got. We are alone on this earth.

    Replies: @Justvisiting, @That Would Be Telling, @Jack D, @Bert

    you can’t trust the experts

    “Experts” these days are defined as somebody on some big institution/corporation’s payroll who have an agenda to f&^% you over….

    All these “public service” advertisements showing smiling black people taking the vaccine have me lol.

    They are hunting for someone with a low enough IQ to actually believe the “experts”.

  • @Steve Sailer
    @anon

    Even in California the % of tests coming back as positive has dropped a little over the last week, which ought to be a good sign.

    One question is are there large population centers that haven't had their turn in the barrel yet?

    Southern California wasn't hit much at all in the spring, and took only a modest beating in July, so December to ? is its first big go around.

    I don't think Northern California has been hit hard yet.

    Replies: @Lot, @anon, @JimB, @Hippopotamusdrome, @Peterike, @Buzz Mohawk

    “ Even in California the % of tests coming back as positive has dropped a little over the last week, which ought to be a good sign.”

    Every “wave” runs its course in 8 to 12 weeks. We’ve known this for decades and deliberately forgot it w Covid, which behaves the same way.

    Why doesn’t everyone understand this by now?

    • Agree: Wielgus, vhrm
  • @Altai
    I suppose there is a focus on vaccinating people who tend to tend to act as key spreaders or spreaders to the already vulnerable. If it better to spend your time vaccinating the elderly or the nurses at the hospitals who might give an elderly person in hospital for something else the killing blow of covid?

    The nursing and other hospital staff are also likely to be key in spreading outside the hospitals too.

    It's not entirely an anti-white calculation.

    Replies: @Jack D, @Wilkey

    If it better to spend your time vaccinating the elderly or the nurses at the hospitals who might give an elderly person in hospital for something else the killing blow of covid?

    The elderly. Which is easier – to give every cop a bullet proof vest or to find and eliminate all bullets? Even if you vaccinate all medical personnel, the elderly may be infected with covid from other sources – their family, non-medical personnel, etc. If you vaccinated the most vulnerable 20% of the population we could cut Covid deaths by 80% in a matter of weeks. It would then really become “just the flu” and we could reopen our economy. If the elderly person in the hospital has already been vaccinated it doesn’t matter if the nurse is infectious.

    All other countries without racial issues understand this and are vaccinating the elderly first. The only reason why we aren’t doing so in America is because the elderly are “too white”. One of the reasons why W. Va. is doing better is that the state is mostly white so decisions concerning vaccination don’t have to get filtered thru the elaborate racial calculus where you have to first figure out where everyone ranks on the diversity totem pole before you can give them a shot.

    • Replies: @Wilkey
    @Jack D

    Except that we know where most of the "bullets" work. They work in hospitals, clinics, and nursing homes. If you're already vaccinating nursing home patients you can vaccinate many of the employees while you're there. And since all these "bullets" happen to work in places where the vaccinations can be administered that makes it even easier.

    And many or most states, including some with lower vaccination rates so far (which I suspect is more due to a lag in reporting), aren't using racial considerations to determine who gets vaccinated first.

    Replies: @Jack D

  • @Vine gill buin
    No wonder white girls like Nikki Haleys daughters prefer Black Men
    https://www.instagram.com/p/CHd_5gphmo1/

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Not Raul, @Thoughts, @fish, @Dan Hayes

    Not a real relationship, he’s just her friend

    Just putting up the photos implying a relationship for politically correct points

  • @Altai
    I suppose there is a focus on vaccinating people who tend to tend to act as key spreaders or spreaders to the already vulnerable. If it better to spend your time vaccinating the elderly or the nurses at the hospitals who might give an elderly person in hospital for something else the killing blow of covid?

    The nursing and other hospital staff are also likely to be key in spreading outside the hospitals too.

    It's not entirely an anti-white calculation.

    Replies: @Jack D, @Wilkey

    I suppose there is a focus on vaccinating people who tend to tend to act as key spreaders or spreaders to the already vulnerable. If it better to spend your time vaccinating the elderly or the nurses at the hospitals who might give an elderly person in hospital for something else the killing blow of covid?

    Indeed. Presumably when they’re vaccinating the nursing home residents they are vaccinating the employees, as well. It would certainly be the easiest thing to do, logistically, as well – at least for the employees who are on shift.

    • Agree: YetAnotherAnon
    • Replies: @Buffalo Joe
    @Wilkey

    Wilkey, you are absolutely correct. The residents of most nursing facilities are on 24/7 lock down, basically confined to their rooms. So when a resident contracts Covid, chances are overwhelming that they caught the virus from staff members.

  • @Vine gill buin
    No wonder white girls like Nikki Haleys daughters prefer Black Men
    https://www.instagram.com/p/CHd_5gphmo1/

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Not Raul, @Thoughts, @fish, @Dan Hayes

    No wonder white girls like Nikki Haleys daughters prefer Black Men

    Oh the lengths modern teenaged girls will go to in order to upset their mothers…….

    • Replies: @Gary in Gramercy
    @fish

    Why can't she just starve herself and listen to Courtney Love, like a normal idiot teenage girl?

    "Harold, it's not my fault. How was I to know that when I said, 'Blacks are this season's chicest fashion accessory,' she would take me literally and get one for herself? This generation doesn't know sarcasm when they hear it."

  • @Jack D
    @Altai


    If it better to spend your time vaccinating the elderly or the nurses at the hospitals who might give an elderly person in hospital for something else the killing blow of covid?
     
    The elderly. Which is easier - to give every cop a bullet proof vest or to find and eliminate all bullets? Even if you vaccinate all medical personnel, the elderly may be infected with covid from other sources - their family, non-medical personnel, etc. If you vaccinated the most vulnerable 20% of the population we could cut Covid deaths by 80% in a matter of weeks. It would then really become "just the flu" and we could reopen our economy. If the elderly person in the hospital has already been vaccinated it doesn't matter if the nurse is infectious.

    All other countries without racial issues understand this and are vaccinating the elderly first. The only reason why we aren't doing so in America is because the elderly are "too white". One of the reasons why W. Va. is doing better is that the state is mostly white so decisions concerning vaccination don't have to get filtered thru the elaborate racial calculus where you have to first figure out where everyone ranks on the diversity totem pole before you can give them a shot.

    Replies: @Wilkey

    Except that we know where most of the “bullets” work. They work in hospitals, clinics, and nursing homes. If you’re already vaccinating nursing home patients you can vaccinate many of the employees while you’re there. And since all these “bullets” happen to work in places where the vaccinations can be administered that makes it even easier.

    And many or most states, including some with lower vaccination rates so far (which I suspect is more due to a lag in reporting), aren’t using racial considerations to determine who gets vaccinated first.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @Wilkey

    Yes, ideally you vaccinate everyone but right now there seem to be bottlenecks so you have to prioritize. They are vaccinating people like radiologists, hospital administrators and politicians ahead of the elderly.

    They made this massive effort to produce a vaccine in record time but they completely dropped the ball on administering it. There is no infrastructure in place. The hospitals have their own bureaucratic goals and vaccination is not a priority for them. In many cases the vaccine gets delivered and then it just sits there - they'll give it out when they get around to it. They are soft pedaling the news that a lot of their black and brown staff refuses to take the vaccine - Tuskegee you know. Millions of doses of vaccine are going to expire before it gets given to anyone because getting a bureaucracy to shift gears takes months and we have only days left. Our priorities are so distorted that it's better to let the vaccine expire than to give it to old white people.

    Replies: @That Would Be Telling, @Sebastian Hawks, @Wilkey

  • @candid_observer
    As with just about everything else about this pandemic, it seems impossible to get a straight answer about a phenomenon of major importance. Why is there such an enormous lag in the numbers of vaccinated, compared to the number of doses distributed?

    Reporting lag? Reluctance to take the vaccine? Improper allocation of doses? General bureaucratic incompetence at the state level in allocating vaccines?

    2020 is perhaps the year in which we fully realized there are no adults in any room. You can't trust the bureaucrats, you can't trust political leaders, you can't trust the journalists, you can't trust the scientists, you can't trust the experts, there are no institutions worthy of your respect. It's facades behind facades.

    You've got your own brain and your own judgment, and that's all you've got. We are alone on this earth.

    Replies: @Justvisiting, @That Would Be Telling, @Jack D, @Bert

    As with just about everything else about this pandemic, it seems impossible to get a straight answer about a phenomenon of major importance. Why is there such an enormous lag in the numbers of vaccinated, compared to the number of doses distributed?

    Reporting lag?

    Also errors by the CDC, I copied the Wednesday the 30th numbers that day not all that long after the update, and note today on the massively upgraded page a total of 205,463 additional 1st doses administered were added. So a New, Improved number of 667,000 1st doses were reported from Monday to Wednesday. Before that, or maybe including some of the additional doses, 1.2 million were administered from the 24th to 28th.

    Given how long it took the FDA to grant Emergency Use Authorizations (EUAs), 21 days for Pfizer/BioNTech on 12/11, 18 days for Moderna on 12/18, add the limited number of places that can store Pfizer/BioNTech’s vaccine so many locations were simply slotted to get Moderna’s, Pfizer’s ORANGE MAN BAD “Oops! We’ve going to miss our early promises by one half,” these are not bad numbers. Note also as new targets of distribution and vaccination start, like long term care facilities, 2,166,200/167,149 as of Wednesday, there will be new learning curves to master.

    The web page is a lot more interesting now, they’ve added a map for which you can change what it displays and how, and that section also breaks out states, territories, and four Federal entities. There’s also a “Federal Pharmacy Partnership for Long-Term Care Program (Subset of Overall Numbers)” from which I got the above numbers.

    Reporting lag is definitely a part of it, especially since that’s the very least important part of the whole process, and this is a concentrated holiday season, it’s perfectly fine for people in the public health system to take time off and delay reporting right now. Kansas is claiming that’s behind their worst or nearly worst status, but it could also be a Democratic governor who’s been at war with most of the rest of the state since the pandemic started. And as always to avoid embarrassing mistakes like that Johns Hopkins video maker, read the CDC’s fine print about the data. Here’s the most relevant info:

    Doses distributed and people initiating vaccination (1st dose received) … reflect current data available as of 9:00am ET on the day of reporting. Data will be regularly updated on Monday, Wednesday and Friday. Updates will occur the following day when reporting coincides with a federal holiday.

    Healthcare providers report doses to federal, state, territorial, and local agencies up to 72 hours after administration. There may be additional lag for data to be transmitted from the federal, state, territorial, or local agency to CDC. A large difference between the number of doses distributed and the number of people initiating vaccination is expected at this point in the COVID vaccination program due to several factors, including delays in reporting of administered doses and management of available vaccine stocks by jurisdictions and federal pharmacy partners.

    Numbers reported on CDC’s website are validated through a submission process with each jurisdiction….

    This [Long-term care facility (LTCF)] data does not include doses distributed and administered to LTCF residents and staff outside the Federal Pharmacy Partnership Program….

    This page has information about the reporting systems which are mentioned in the fine print.

    • Replies: @anon
    @That Would Be Telling

    Providers have up to 72 hours to report? And no reporting on Federal Holidays two of which are in the final week of December?

    I think it is likely the states are a bit slow and sloppy, as opposed to disastrously incompetent.

    But I agree that the important thing is the actual progress, not the reporting of it. Not a single official has offered that the results are materially better than the reported figure, and provided an estimate.

    Replies: @That Would Be Telling

  • @candid_observer
    As with just about everything else about this pandemic, it seems impossible to get a straight answer about a phenomenon of major importance. Why is there such an enormous lag in the numbers of vaccinated, compared to the number of doses distributed?

    Reporting lag? Reluctance to take the vaccine? Improper allocation of doses? General bureaucratic incompetence at the state level in allocating vaccines?

    2020 is perhaps the year in which we fully realized there are no adults in any room. You can't trust the bureaucrats, you can't trust political leaders, you can't trust the journalists, you can't trust the scientists, you can't trust the experts, there are no institutions worthy of your respect. It's facades behind facades.

    You've got your own brain and your own judgment, and that's all you've got. We are alone on this earth.

    Replies: @Justvisiting, @That Would Be Telling, @Jack D, @Bert

    Scary but true. Our institutions are rotten from the inside. They are like a termite ridden tree – the surface may appear intact but it is just a shell concealing the rot within. The enemy is within the gates. Their missions have been subverted. The mission of the public health establishment is not public health, it is “DIE”. The mission of the government establishment is DIE. The mission of the scientific establishment is DIE. The mission of the journalistic establishment is DIE. Their ostensible goals have all be subordinated to the Prime Directive. Every hiring decision, every policy decision, is tainted with DIE.

    The white males who made things run have all been MeTooed or cowed into submission. Their diverse replacements are at best incompetent and ineffectual and at worst have actively steered their institutions way from their former goals. The CDC was concerned with “epidemics” of fast food and gun violence in the minority community instead of actual epidemics. As an Atlanta based organization, they were staffed mostly with black incompetents.

    And the scary thing is that you ain’t seen nothin’ yet. There is still some residual white male talent, even if it is elderly and a little wokish (though not fully Woke). Guys like Biden and Fauci. These guys were never that good but what comes after them is even worse, much worse. Après eux, le déluge.

    • Replies: @Justvisiting
    @Jack D


    The white males who made things run have all been MeTooed or cowed into submission. Their diverse replacements are at best incompetent and ineffectual and at worst have actively steered their institutions way from their former goals.
     
    I did have an opportunity to learn from a friend about the inner workings of an "Equal Opportunity" operation of a .gov agency.

    It was hilarious.

    They hired up all minorities for the key positions--and did have a real mission.

    It was an anti-straight white male mission, but it was a real mission with real policies, procedures, goals etc.

    The employees were totally incapable of implementing anything. They spent all day talking about their many kids, "relationships", friends etc. and had neither the interest nor the abilities to do anything but fill up space in their office.

    The employees were incapable of doing even the most basic arithmetic, were not able to master any basic computer skills, were unable to write even simple English sentences or spell words correctly (even with the help of spell check!), and would mangle basic English grammar.

    Letters issued from the office were comedy gold--total word salad.

    The bosses couldn't get rid of the employees without risking a lawsuit.

    Basically, it was welfare masquerading as .gov work.
    , @BenKenobi
    @Jack D


    Après eux, le déluge.
     
    Après le déluge, nous.

    I’m not worried.

    Replies: @Jack D, @Mr. Anon

  • First the opiates, and now the experimental mRNA vaxx. West Virginia is really in the crosshairs.

    • Replies: @That Would Be Telling
    @Polite Derelict


    and now the experimental mRNA vaxx
     
    How much "experimenting" must be done before something transitions out of that phase? I'll grant you that with only 3 moths of safety data for Moderna, and another 10 days for Pfizer/BioNTech, they still legitimately belong in the FDA's Emergency Use Authorization (EUA) stage, but that much data plus almost 3 million first doses in the US alone means something.
  • @Buffalo Joe
    @ATate

    ATate, few people getting their shots, but more people getting shot. You are achieving liberal Nirvana.Stay safe.

    Replies: @ATate

    I’m on the east side of the state. My betters on the cool side sneeringly refer to us as rednecks and meth heads. Then they have the unmitigated gall to come over here for low real estate prices. And then vote here the exact same way they did back in their cosmopolitan Valhalla they just left.

    I used to defend my home to them. Now I “Lean In”. It’s horribly racists here. Dangerous rednecks abound. Stay far away ooga booguh!!!

    The larpers started some shit after “mourning” big floyd the dead loser and our Republican Mayor stamped their shit out post haste.

    I hope they stay there and enjoy their amazing restaurants while I watch their city burn.

    • Replies: @Buffalo Joe
    @ATate

    ATate, watch the video "Seattle is Dying" and then watch "Fight for the Soul of Seattle." Progressives have destroyed a once great city and that is not hyperbole. Stay safe

  • • Thanks: Je Suis Omar Mateen
    • Replies: @Je Suis Omar Mateen
    @J.Ross

    TrūFaith Covidiots will retort that without Facediapers™ and assburger-distancing and lockdowns, deaths woulda been ever so much higher.

    If a diapered state has fewer deaths attributed to Hoax19, Covidiots assert diapering works; if deaths are higher than normal undiapered states, Covidiots assert diapering works cuz it woulda been worse without diapers, dontcha know.

    Covid is a cult, it is nonfalsifiable. Every person walking about bediapered has joined an anti-science religion. They will diaper til death unless they are more afraid to diaper in public than they fear the coronasniffles.

    , @HA
    @J.Ross

    "global health policy in 2020 has centered around NPI's (non-pharmaceutical interventions) like distancing, masks, school closures...these have been sold as a way to stop infection as though this were science....this was never true and that fact was known and knowable."

    Ah, the old COVID propter hoc fallacy takes on a new form. This so-called research is likely from the same basket of idiots who found a correlation between states applying lockdown measures and COVID deaths and then claimed lockdowns themselves were the actual cause of all those excess deaths. Yeah, right.

    On a related conspiratorial note, it turns out that states like FL and TX and LA that issue hurricane warnings and engage in elaborate hurricane rescue efforts have a lot more hurricane damage than North Dakota and Illinois. Spooky, huh? Likewise, avalanche rescues and forecasts tend to happen more in states like CO than in states that never bother with them, like say FL and HI. Let's see what Alex Jones has to say about that, shall we?

    Of course, none of that means that hurricane forecasting and rescue efforts actually cause or worsen hurricanes, and ditto for avalanches. And it's the same thing with COVID restrictions. Mixing up dense/urban/brown/obese areas (where health officials are more likely to try and stop the tsunami before the ICU units dry up) with places where not as much needs to happen (or hasn't yet) is not going to fool anyone who doesn't want to be fooled.

    Similarly, one of the resident anti-vaxxers around here once claimed -- based on a small study that was subsequently contravened by a larger one that he conveniently forgot to mention, though that earlier study caused a lot of head-scratching for several years -- that children who get the flu vaccine are actually several times more likely to suffer subsequent hospitalizations from flu. The explanation given for this anomaly (again, one that was affirmed by a larger study) was that doctors of children with asthma and other such conditions really hammered on their loony anti-vaxx parents until they relented and gave their children a flu shot more so than they would have if those children had had no risk factors.

    Again, this is all just various games with post hoc/propter hoc, though there's not much point in trying to explain this to the true believers among the just-a-flo-bros or the anti-vaxxers. They're not going to let science get in their way.

    Replies: @BenKenobi, @Mr. Anon, @Peterike

  • @Wilkey
    @Jack D

    Except that we know where most of the "bullets" work. They work in hospitals, clinics, and nursing homes. If you're already vaccinating nursing home patients you can vaccinate many of the employees while you're there. And since all these "bullets" happen to work in places where the vaccinations can be administered that makes it even easier.

    And many or most states, including some with lower vaccination rates so far (which I suspect is more due to a lag in reporting), aren't using racial considerations to determine who gets vaccinated first.

    Replies: @Jack D

    Yes, ideally you vaccinate everyone but right now there seem to be bottlenecks so you have to prioritize. They are vaccinating people like radiologists, hospital administrators and politicians ahead of the elderly.

    They made this massive effort to produce a vaccine in record time but they completely dropped the ball on administering it. There is no infrastructure in place. The hospitals have their own bureaucratic goals and vaccination is not a priority for them. In many cases the vaccine gets delivered and then it just sits there – they’ll give it out when they get around to it. They are soft pedaling the news that a lot of their black and brown staff refuses to take the vaccine – Tuskegee you know. Millions of doses of vaccine are going to expire before it gets given to anyone because getting a bureaucracy to shift gears takes months and we have only days left. Our priorities are so distorted that it’s better to let the vaccine expire than to give it to old white people.

    • Replies: @That Would Be Telling
    @Jack D

    You litany of complaints only covers hospitals, and if they just don't use a lot of their doses, I would hope Operation Warp Speed would reclaim the unused ones and direct them to the entities which are now taking over the burden of vaccinating people, right this very moment it's CVS and Walgreens for long term care facilities, and the OWS plans have a lot more depth as more doses become available.

    If kept in proper freezers, the Pfizer/BioNTech vaccine is good for six months, and Moderna's for four months, that's a lot of time to untangle things. It'll also be easy to shame hospitals for not using doses, and we're likely to soon have an example of deliberately destroying them being dealt with a Federal prosecution (the guy who removed 50+ Moderna vials from storage; some were able to be used in time, ~500 doses went to waste).

    Replies: @Jack D

    , @Sebastian Hawks
    @Jack D

    "They are soft pedaling the news that a lot of their black and brown staff refuses to take the vaccine – Tuskegee you know."

    Yep, exactly what I expected. At work we have an annual flu shot clinic which they have a nurse come out and vaccinate everyone who signs up. None of the blacks go, always spewing some conspiracy nonsense fitting of a black Alex Jones. Sad fact is anti-vaxer nonsense isn't just limited to the blacks, the low IQ whites usually spout the same crap.

    , @Wilkey
    @Jack D


    The hospitals have their own bureaucratic goals and vaccination is not a priority for them. In many cases the vaccine gets delivered and then it just sits there – they’ll give it out when they get around to it.
     
    I sincerely doubt this is a widespread issue, considering that a lot of other activity at hospitals is shut down (thanks to COVID) and all the attention being paid to it, they probably want to be done with COVID as soon as anyone.

    Replies: @Jack D

  • @prosa123
    Since September, tens of millions of flu shots have been administered, so even though this is being done on a larger scale, it isn’t something that should take a Herculean effort.

    In the spring of 1947 New York City health officials administered somewhere between 2.5 and 4.5 million smallpox vaccines in less than one month after an infected person arrived in the city.

    Replies: @Jack D, @Reg Cæsar, @Johann Ricke, @Bardon Kaldian

    Because back then NYC was a city. Now it’s a 3rd world shithole.

  • According to an online calculator, I’m number 31 millionth in line, in California. I was going to be #40 million but I have a smart lawyer.

    • Replies: @AnotherDad
    @International Jew


    According to an online calculator, I’m number 31 millionth in line, in California. I was going to be #40 million but I have a smart lawyer.
     
    Well done!

    Apparently my unz comments have been noted, i looked at the list and i'm

    #7, 814,523,074 just behind "Andamanese#437" and just in front of Kevin MacDonald.
    , @Desiderius
    @International Jew

    I'm immune suppressed so I suppose should be in the head of the line.

    I'm in no hurry but will take it when the time comes given current information.

  • I don’t know if Steve realises, but there’s been a YUGE change in UK vaccination policy.

    Plan A, up til a week or less ago

    Vaccinate with 2 shots approximately 3 weeks apart.

    Plan P for panic, after a big surge in New Improved Covid

    Vaccinate with 2 shots approximately 12 weeks apart.

    This is presumably because they can vaccinate twice as many people.

    Pfizer/BioNTech said that their vaccine was not designed to be used in two shots 12 weeks apart. In a statement, the firms said there was no evidence the first shot continued to work beyond three weeks.

    Data from the phase 3 study demonstrated that, although partial protection from the vaccine appears to begin as early as 12 days after the first dose, two doses of the vaccine are required to provide the maximum protection against the disease, a vaccine efficacy of 95%. There are no data to demonstrate that protection after the first dose is sustained after 21 days,” they said.

    https://www.theguardian.com/society/2020/dec/30/oxford-astrazeneca-covid-vaccine-approved-by-uk-regulator

    Now Pfizer are quite correct, there’s no data one way or the other, because they didn’t test for 12 week intervals.

    There must I presume be good reasons for this (like panic as above), but it seems a bit of a gamble. Already nurses who’ve had the first Pfizer jab but not the second have gone down with covid.

    JackD

    Roughly 20% to 40% of the L.A. County’s front-line workers who were offered the vaccine declined to get the shot.

    So many in Riverside County refused the vaccine — an estimated 50% — that officials met to strategize how best to distribute the unused doses

    • Replies: @That Would Be Telling
    @YetAnotherAnon

    WTF? There's likely good SCIENCE!!! reasons to put a long delay between the first and second doses of the AZ/Oxford and thus U.K. clown show vaccine that only gives protection to 62% of the people who get it with four (?) weeks between the two doses. That should decrease the immune system's zapping of the second dose's virus vector before it can do its job, Janssen's backup trial is using a 57 day delay, 27 days less.

    But for Pfizer/BioNTech, they would indeed have no reason to have any such data on such a very long separation between the two doses, the mRNA vaccines avoid the virus vector problems that are not yet addressed by AZ/Oxford expect perhaps by this, with Janssen rolling the dice for a very high payoff if one dose is sufficient, and Gamaleya (Sputnik V) using what strikes me as the totally obvious solution, two different virus vectors for the first and second doses.

  • Got mine yesterday in Chattanooga as an over 75 year old. Arrived an hour and a half before 9 am opening and the line of cars was already a mile long. The county ran out of the Pfizer vaccine mid morning.

    • Thanks: Desiderius
    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Luke Lea

    Did they give you your shot in your car?

  • @Not Raul
    I’m puzzled by how poorly Washington is doing.

    Could this be due to some weird artifact in the data?

    Washington was one of the early leaders in testing; and like West Virginia & South Dakota, has a large German-American population.

    Replies: @Bill P, @Thoughts, @Hibernian

    No, it’s real.

    https://www.opb.org/article/2020/12/31/washington-covid-19-coronavirus-vaccine/

    There may be a lot of ethnic Germans in WA, but the state’s health secretary, Umair Shah, is Pakistani. I’d say he’s off to a very poor start, but time will tell. Honestly, I wouldn’t expect better from a white democrat here in Washington — even a German one. This state’s leadership class is well below the US average. Look at our contributions to congress. Only Oregon makes us look decent in comparison.

  • @Jack D
    @Wilkey

    Yes, ideally you vaccinate everyone but right now there seem to be bottlenecks so you have to prioritize. They are vaccinating people like radiologists, hospital administrators and politicians ahead of the elderly.

    They made this massive effort to produce a vaccine in record time but they completely dropped the ball on administering it. There is no infrastructure in place. The hospitals have their own bureaucratic goals and vaccination is not a priority for them. In many cases the vaccine gets delivered and then it just sits there - they'll give it out when they get around to it. They are soft pedaling the news that a lot of their black and brown staff refuses to take the vaccine - Tuskegee you know. Millions of doses of vaccine are going to expire before it gets given to anyone because getting a bureaucracy to shift gears takes months and we have only days left. Our priorities are so distorted that it's better to let the vaccine expire than to give it to old white people.

    Replies: @That Would Be Telling, @Sebastian Hawks, @Wilkey

    You litany of complaints only covers hospitals, and if they just don’t use a lot of their doses, I would hope Operation Warp Speed would reclaim the unused ones and direct them to the entities which are now taking over the burden of vaccinating people, right this very moment it’s CVS and Walgreens for long term care facilities, and the OWS plans have a lot more depth as more doses become available.

    If kept in proper freezers, the Pfizer/BioNTech vaccine is good for six months, and Moderna’s for four months, that’s a lot of time to untangle things. It’ll also be easy to shame hospitals for not using doses, and we’re likely to soon have an example of deliberately destroying them being dealt with a Federal prosecution (the guy who removed 50+ Moderna vials from storage; some were able to be used in time, ~500 doses went to waste).

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @That Would Be Telling

    Lots of hospitals don't have the required ultracold freezers. They are keeping the stuff on dry ice in the Pfizer coolers but that is only supposed to be good for a month. As far as I can tell, our elites are beyond shame. Deliberately destroying doses is a crime for the little people but it they expire because of disorganization - well whaddaya whaddaya.

    Replies: @That Would Be Telling

  • @Jack D
    @Wilkey

    Yes, ideally you vaccinate everyone but right now there seem to be bottlenecks so you have to prioritize. They are vaccinating people like radiologists, hospital administrators and politicians ahead of the elderly.

    They made this massive effort to produce a vaccine in record time but they completely dropped the ball on administering it. There is no infrastructure in place. The hospitals have their own bureaucratic goals and vaccination is not a priority for them. In many cases the vaccine gets delivered and then it just sits there - they'll give it out when they get around to it. They are soft pedaling the news that a lot of their black and brown staff refuses to take the vaccine - Tuskegee you know. Millions of doses of vaccine are going to expire before it gets given to anyone because getting a bureaucracy to shift gears takes months and we have only days left. Our priorities are so distorted that it's better to let the vaccine expire than to give it to old white people.

    Replies: @That Would Be Telling, @Sebastian Hawks, @Wilkey

    “They are soft pedaling the news that a lot of their black and brown staff refuses to take the vaccine – Tuskegee you know.”

    Yep, exactly what I expected. At work we have an annual flu shot clinic which they have a nurse come out and vaccinate everyone who signs up. None of the blacks go, always spewing some conspiracy nonsense fitting of a black Alex Jones. Sad fact is anti-vaxer nonsense isn’t just limited to the blacks, the low IQ whites usually spout the same crap.

  • I wonder if a clinic like this one that apparently “fraudulently obtained” the vaccine would report the doses it’s administered.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9090621/Inside-New-York-Clinic-fraudulently-obtained-Moderna-vaccine-inoculated-public.html

  • In 2009 when Swine Flu was sweeping the nation the FDA approved a new Swine Flu vaccine in September and distributed 25 million doses in October and by December 60 million Americans had been vaccinated with the new H1N1 vaccine. So we were able to vaccinate 60 million Americans in 2 months 11 years ago, despite shortages and slow rollout of the new vaccine. https://www.nbcnews.com/id/wbna34525214

    • Replies: @epebble
    @Hernan Pizzaro del Blanco

    60 million Americans in 2 months

    Biden wants to vaccinate 100 million by May 1. That is the same rate as they did for H1N1 (and 10 times the present rate of 100,000 per day). Unlike H1N1, this is a much bigger challenge due to the cryo-chain needed. The pace will accelerate with Oxford-AZ since no cryo is needed.

  • @That Would Be Telling
    @Jack D

    You litany of complaints only covers hospitals, and if they just don't use a lot of their doses, I would hope Operation Warp Speed would reclaim the unused ones and direct them to the entities which are now taking over the burden of vaccinating people, right this very moment it's CVS and Walgreens for long term care facilities, and the OWS plans have a lot more depth as more doses become available.

    If kept in proper freezers, the Pfizer/BioNTech vaccine is good for six months, and Moderna's for four months, that's a lot of time to untangle things. It'll also be easy to shame hospitals for not using doses, and we're likely to soon have an example of deliberately destroying them being dealt with a Federal prosecution (the guy who removed 50+ Moderna vials from storage; some were able to be used in time, ~500 doses went to waste).

    Replies: @Jack D

    Lots of hospitals don’t have the required ultracold freezers. They are keeping the stuff on dry ice in the Pfizer coolers but that is only supposed to be good for a month. As far as I can tell, our elites are beyond shame. Deliberately destroying doses is a crime for the little people but it they expire because of disorganization – well whaddaya whaddaya.

    • Replies: @That Would Be Telling
    @Jack D


    Lots of hospitals don’t have the required ultracold freezers. They are keeping the stuff on dry ice in the Pfizer coolers but that is only supposed to be good for a month.
     
    How many hospitals are getting vaccine from Pfizer without having borrowed or rented a ultra low temperature (ULT) freezer? I sure got the impression using dry ice was a temporary expedient if your freezer failed or some other situation required it, and perhaps just confirmed it a bit as theory, but then in searching using the term dry ice came across evidence lots of it is being ordered.

    Either way, institutions have had a long time to set themselves up to get the Pfizer/BioNTech vaccine ... and with Pfizer missing their promises for early shipments by a half, the burden on its extreme cold chain should then be lessened, at least to the extent institutions without ULT freezers are allocated Moderna's instead. Also came across a news article where a state broke the extreme cold chain, 1-2 hospitals didn't need to bother with their ULT freezers, just used it up in the 5 day window you have for keeping it refrigerated.

    I'm sure some vaccine will be wasted, but don't share your pessimism, but we do live in radically different locations, mine not crushed by diverstiry like your's. And then there's the what will happen when pressure starts getting applied to institutions that waste the Pfizer/BioNTech vaccine; would hospitals in your area be immune, so to speak, to that? How much might that change if this moves into the realm of Federal criminal law??

    Replies: @Jack D

  • @Polite Derelict
    First the opiates, and now the experimental mRNA vaxx. West Virginia is really in the crosshairs.

    Replies: @That Would Be Telling

    and now the experimental mRNA vaxx

    How much “experimenting” must be done before something transitions out of that phase? I’ll grant you that with only 3 moths of safety data for Moderna, and another 10 days for Pfizer/BioNTech, they still legitimately belong in the FDA’s Emergency Use Authorization (EUA) stage, but that much data plus almost 3 million first doses in the US alone means something.

  • West Virginia health officials mistakenly gave 42 people Regeneron IV Covid treatment instead of vaccine shot

    https://www.cnbc.com/2020/12/31/west-virginia-mistakenly-gives-42-peoplegiven-regeneron-iv-covid-treatment-instead-of-vaccine-shot-west-virginia-national-guard-says-.html

    Oops. Hey, COVID means never having to say you’re sorry.

  • @YetAnotherAnon
    I don't know if Steve realises, but there's been a YUGE change in UK vaccination policy.

    Plan A, up til a week or less ago


    Vaccinate with 2 shots approximately 3 weeks apart.

     

    Plan P for panic, after a big surge in New Improved Covid

    Vaccinate with 2 shots approximately 12 weeks apart.

     

    This is presumably because they can vaccinate twice as many people.

    Pfizer/BioNTech said that their vaccine was not designed to be used in two shots 12 weeks apart. In a statement, the firms said there was no evidence the first shot continued to work beyond three weeks.

    Data from the phase 3 study demonstrated that, although partial protection from the vaccine appears to begin as early as 12 days after the first dose, two doses of the vaccine are required to provide the maximum protection against the disease, a vaccine efficacy of 95%. There are no data to demonstrate that protection after the first dose is sustained after 21 days,” they said.
     

    https://www.theguardian.com/society/2020/dec/30/oxford-astrazeneca-covid-vaccine-approved-by-uk-regulator

    Now Pfizer are quite correct, there's no data one way or the other, because they didn't test for 12 week intervals.

    There must I presume be good reasons for this (like panic as above), but it seems a bit of a gamble. Already nurses who've had the first Pfizer jab but not the second have gone down with covid.

    JackD

    https://twitter.com/latimes/status/1344648353397702657


    Roughly 20% to 40% of the L.A. County’s front-line workers who were offered the vaccine declined to get the shot.

    So many in Riverside County refused the vaccine — an estimated 50% — that officials met to strategize how best to distribute the unused doses
     

    Replies: @That Would Be Telling

    WTF? There’s likely good SCIENCE!!! reasons to put a long delay between the first and second doses of the AZ/Oxford and thus U.K. clown show vaccine that only gives protection to 62% of the people who get it with four (?) weeks between the two doses. That should decrease the immune system’s zapping of the second dose’s virus vector before it can do its job, Janssen’s backup trial is using a 57 day delay, 27 days less.

    But for Pfizer/BioNTech, they would indeed have no reason to have any such data on such a very long separation between the two doses, the mRNA vaccines avoid the virus vector problems that are not yet addressed by AZ/Oxford expect perhaps by this, with Janssen rolling the dice for a very high payoff if one dose is sufficient, and Gamaleya (Sputnik V) using what strikes me as the totally obvious solution, two different virus vectors for the first and second doses.

  • @Not Raul
    I’m puzzled by how poorly Washington is doing.

    Could this be due to some weird artifact in the data?

    Washington was one of the early leaders in testing; and like West Virginia & South Dakota, has a large German-American population.

    Replies: @Bill P, @Thoughts, @Hibernian

    Hypochondriac leftist whites

    Covid is a cool thing to get, not a bad thing. Think of all the facebook sympathy plus you get to say to your conservative friends ‘It’s Real!’

    I said to someone at New Year’s Yesterday…The only people who get Covid are people who believe in Covid

    • Replies: @Je Suis Omar Mateen
    @Thoughts

    "Covid is a cool thing to get, not a bad thing. Think of all the facebook sympathy plus you get to say to your conservative friends ‘It’s Real!’"

    I always send my condolences to the various and assorted Covidiots among my friends and family when their CoronaHoax tests comes back negative: Better luck next time! Whilst learning that 95% of men are ballless imbeciles, I also learned from the CoronaHoax that at least half my frens and fams are moral narcissists and virtue signalers.

    , @Jack D
    @Thoughts


    The only people who get Covid are people who believe in Covid
     
    Pardon my French but you're an idiot. The virus doesn't care whether you believe in it or not. People here scoff when others say that race is a social construct but here you are saying that Covid is a social construct. Believe it or not, there is an objective reality that exists outside of your head.
    , @Wielgus
    @Thoughts

    Covid is so much more rewarding than God. God tends not to manifest Himself to those who believe in Him.

  • @Hernan Pizzaro del Blanco
    In 2009 when Swine Flu was sweeping the nation the FDA approved a new Swine Flu vaccine in September and distributed 25 million doses in October and by December 60 million Americans had been vaccinated with the new H1N1 vaccine. So we were able to vaccinate 60 million Americans in 2 months 11 years ago, despite shortages and slow rollout of the new vaccine. https://www.nbcnews.com/id/wbna34525214

    Replies: @epebble

    60 million Americans in 2 months

    Biden wants to vaccinate 100 million by May 1. That is the same rate as they did for H1N1 (and 10 times the present rate of 100,000 per day). Unlike H1N1, this is a much bigger challenge due to the cryo-chain needed. The pace will accelerate with Oxford-AZ since no cryo is needed.

  • @Jack D
    @Wilkey

    Yes, ideally you vaccinate everyone but right now there seem to be bottlenecks so you have to prioritize. They are vaccinating people like radiologists, hospital administrators and politicians ahead of the elderly.

    They made this massive effort to produce a vaccine in record time but they completely dropped the ball on administering it. There is no infrastructure in place. The hospitals have their own bureaucratic goals and vaccination is not a priority for them. In many cases the vaccine gets delivered and then it just sits there - they'll give it out when they get around to it. They are soft pedaling the news that a lot of their black and brown staff refuses to take the vaccine - Tuskegee you know. Millions of doses of vaccine are going to expire before it gets given to anyone because getting a bureaucracy to shift gears takes months and we have only days left. Our priorities are so distorted that it's better to let the vaccine expire than to give it to old white people.

    Replies: @That Would Be Telling, @Sebastian Hawks, @Wilkey

    The hospitals have their own bureaucratic goals and vaccination is not a priority for them. In many cases the vaccine gets delivered and then it just sits there – they’ll give it out when they get around to it.

    I sincerely doubt this is a widespread issue, considering that a lot of other activity at hospitals is shut down (thanks to COVID) and all the attention being paid to it, they probably want to be done with COVID as soon as anyone.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @Wilkey


    I sincerely doubt this is a widespread issue,
     
    If this was not an issue then why has only a small % of the produced vaccine been administered? The stuff should be disappearing into people's arms as fast as it can be produced but it isn't. It's bad enough that they aren't giving it to the right people but they are not even giving it to the wrong people either.
  • @Jack D
    @That Would Be Telling

    Lots of hospitals don't have the required ultracold freezers. They are keeping the stuff on dry ice in the Pfizer coolers but that is only supposed to be good for a month. As far as I can tell, our elites are beyond shame. Deliberately destroying doses is a crime for the little people but it they expire because of disorganization - well whaddaya whaddaya.

    Replies: @That Would Be Telling

    Lots of hospitals don’t have the required ultracold freezers. They are keeping the stuff on dry ice in the Pfizer coolers but that is only supposed to be good for a month.

    How many hospitals are getting vaccine from Pfizer without having borrowed or rented a ultra low temperature (ULT) freezer? I sure got the impression using dry ice was a temporary expedient if your freezer failed or some other situation required it, and perhaps just confirmed it a bit as theory, but then in searching using the term dry ice came across evidence lots of it is being ordered.

    Either way, institutions have had a long time to set themselves up to get the Pfizer/BioNTech vaccine … and with Pfizer missing their promises for early shipments by a half, the burden on its extreme cold chain should then be lessened, at least to the extent institutions without ULT freezers are allocated Moderna’s instead. Also came across a news article where a state broke the extreme cold chain, 1-2 hospitals didn’t need to bother with their ULT freezers, just used it up in the 5 day window you have for keeping it refrigerated.

    I’m sure some vaccine will be wasted, but don’t share your pessimism, but we do live in radically different locations, mine not crushed by diverstiry like your’s. And then there’s the what will happen when pressure starts getting applied to institutions that waste the Pfizer/BioNTech vaccine; would hospitals in your area be immune, so to speak, to that? How much might that change if this moves into the realm of Federal criminal law??

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @That Would Be Telling

    As you might imagine, there is a shortage of ULT freezers. There was not much demand for this product and now suddenly there is and production can't be ramped up overnight. Nor are producers eager to spend a lot of $ increasing production capacity because they know that demand is going spike upward and then fall back down again like a stone.

    I don't see any crimes being committed except in cases where the vaccine is deliberately sabotaged. If your hospital receives X doses and due to "administrative difficulties" they are unable to administer them all, well that's how it goes. Every hospital already throws out massive quantities of expired medical supplies, drugs, etc. You can imagine that NY City public hospitals are not run with Swiss like efficiency. There is no accountability. Just because they had lots of time to set themselves up doesn't mean that they actually did. We are seeing the results right now.

  • I’ll bet I’m not the only one here who’s getting really tired of hearing about “jabs“.

    One thing American society doesn’t need, is the incorporating of more crude Britishisms into our national lexicon.

    • Replies: @Jonathan Mason
    @Servant of Gla'aki

    Well you always have a second amendment right to call the vaccination injections shots.

    A jab, a shot, a stick, whatever. Just try not be a little prick.

  • @Svevlad
    @Jack D

    Ain't that also a consequence of neglect combined with a somewhat rugged terrain? Heard that some places didn't have electricity way into the 50s

    Replies: @Paperback Writer

    Rural electrification in the US wasn’t completed until the mid-1960s.

  • @YetAnotherAnon
    Take a knee for George. Apologies if this has already been noted. Happy New Year.

    https://www.irishcentral.com/news/george-nkencho-dublin


    "During an incident at the EuroSpar business premises in Hartstown Shopping Centre a male staff member received facial injuries and is currently receiving medical attention in Connolly Memorial Hospital.

    "Subsequently a second public order incident was reported at the Post Office in the Hartstown Shopping Centre.

    "Uniform, unarmed Gardaí responded to the scene and observed a male in possession of a knife. The male continued to threaten members of the public and unarmed Gardaí with the knife.

    "Gardai followed the male on foot and in vehicles from the Hartstown Shopping Centre towards Manorsfields Drive, Dublin 15. During this period Gardaí were engaging with the male and encouraging him to drop the weapon.

    "Members of the Armed Support Unit arrived at a scene in Manorfields Drive, Dublin 15. The Armed Support Unit were also threatened with a knife and implemented a graduated response where the use of less-lethal force options (taser and OC spray) was initially administered in an effort to resolve the incident. The less-lethal use of force options were unsuccessful.

    "At approximately 12:35 pm a member of the Armed Support Unit discharged a number of shots from his official firearm shooting the male.

    "The male was treated at the scene by Garda Armed Support Unit paramedics and Dublin Fire Brigade paramedics and transferred to Connolly Hospital Blanchardstown.

    "The male was pronounced dead at Connolly Memorial Hospital.
     
    Naturally the Irish chapter of BLM are on the scene where the supermarket manager got stabbed, abusing white customers.

    https://twitter.com/ox_dev/status/1344682108887986179

    and attacking buses

    https://twitter.com/McguireScotty/status/1344957511707873280

    "Wear dark clothing and cover up any identifying signs" - this tweet is so woke it makes you wonder if its Russian disinfo ;-)

    https://twitter.com/BlackQueerBC/status/1344942960543211520

    Replies: @Gary in Gramercy, @Dan Hayes

    “Black Queer Book Club.”

    My hardcore lounge Arthur Lee, Scott Walker and Serge Gainsbourg cover band — formerly known as “The People’s Front of Judea” — just got a new name.

    • LOL: YetAnotherAnon
  • @That Would Be Telling
    @Jack D


    Lots of hospitals don’t have the required ultracold freezers. They are keeping the stuff on dry ice in the Pfizer coolers but that is only supposed to be good for a month.
     
    How many hospitals are getting vaccine from Pfizer without having borrowed or rented a ultra low temperature (ULT) freezer? I sure got the impression using dry ice was a temporary expedient if your freezer failed or some other situation required it, and perhaps just confirmed it a bit as theory, but then in searching using the term dry ice came across evidence lots of it is being ordered.

    Either way, institutions have had a long time to set themselves up to get the Pfizer/BioNTech vaccine ... and with Pfizer missing their promises for early shipments by a half, the burden on its extreme cold chain should then be lessened, at least to the extent institutions without ULT freezers are allocated Moderna's instead. Also came across a news article where a state broke the extreme cold chain, 1-2 hospitals didn't need to bother with their ULT freezers, just used it up in the 5 day window you have for keeping it refrigerated.

    I'm sure some vaccine will be wasted, but don't share your pessimism, but we do live in radically different locations, mine not crushed by diverstiry like your's. And then there's the what will happen when pressure starts getting applied to institutions that waste the Pfizer/BioNTech vaccine; would hospitals in your area be immune, so to speak, to that? How much might that change if this moves into the realm of Federal criminal law??

    Replies: @Jack D

    As you might imagine, there is a shortage of ULT freezers. There was not much demand for this product and now suddenly there is and production can’t be ramped up overnight. Nor are producers eager to spend a lot of $ increasing production capacity because they know that demand is going spike upward and then fall back down again like a stone.

    I don’t see any crimes being committed except in cases where the vaccine is deliberately sabotaged. If your hospital receives X doses and due to “administrative difficulties” they are unable to administer them all, well that’s how it goes. Every hospital already throws out massive quantities of expired medical supplies, drugs, etc. You can imagine that NY City public hospitals are not run with Swiss like efficiency. There is no accountability. Just because they had lots of time to set themselves up doesn’t mean that they actually did. We are seeing the results right now.

  • @YetAnotherAnon
    Take a knee for George. Apologies if this has already been noted. Happy New Year.

    https://www.irishcentral.com/news/george-nkencho-dublin


    "During an incident at the EuroSpar business premises in Hartstown Shopping Centre a male staff member received facial injuries and is currently receiving medical attention in Connolly Memorial Hospital.

    "Subsequently a second public order incident was reported at the Post Office in the Hartstown Shopping Centre.

    "Uniform, unarmed Gardaí responded to the scene and observed a male in possession of a knife. The male continued to threaten members of the public and unarmed Gardaí with the knife.

    "Gardai followed the male on foot and in vehicles from the Hartstown Shopping Centre towards Manorsfields Drive, Dublin 15. During this period Gardaí were engaging with the male and encouraging him to drop the weapon.

    "Members of the Armed Support Unit arrived at a scene in Manorfields Drive, Dublin 15. The Armed Support Unit were also threatened with a knife and implemented a graduated response where the use of less-lethal force options (taser and OC spray) was initially administered in an effort to resolve the incident. The less-lethal use of force options were unsuccessful.

    "At approximately 12:35 pm a member of the Armed Support Unit discharged a number of shots from his official firearm shooting the male.

    "The male was treated at the scene by Garda Armed Support Unit paramedics and Dublin Fire Brigade paramedics and transferred to Connolly Hospital Blanchardstown.

    "The male was pronounced dead at Connolly Memorial Hospital.
     
    Naturally the Irish chapter of BLM are on the scene where the supermarket manager got stabbed, abusing white customers.

    https://twitter.com/ox_dev/status/1344682108887986179

    and attacking buses

    https://twitter.com/McguireScotty/status/1344957511707873280

    "Wear dark clothing and cover up any identifying signs" - this tweet is so woke it makes you wonder if its Russian disinfo ;-)

    https://twitter.com/BlackQueerBC/status/1344942960543211520

    Replies: @Gary in Gramercy, @Dan Hayes

    As is their wont, the complete “Irish Central” article gives their usual BLM spin!

    For the realistic “spin” on this ongoing atrocity, you are referred to yesterday’s issue of “The Burkean”!

    • Thanks: YetAnotherAnon
    • Replies: @Dan Hayes
    @Dan Hayes

    Even better, you are referred to today’s (1 Jan 2021) issue of “The Burkean” which demonstrates how the Irish Establishment and useful idiot SJWs have acted in concert to ensure that BLM reins in Ireland!

    , @Dan Hayes
    @Dan Hayes

    Even better, you are referred to today’s (1 Jan 2021) issue of “The Burkean” which demonstrates how the Irish Establishment and useful idiot SJWs have acted in concert to ensure that BLM reins in Ireland!

    , @Dan Hayes
    @Dan Hayes

    Even better, you are referred to today’s (1 Jan 2021) issue of “The Burkean” which demonstrates how the Irish Establishment and useful idiot SJWs have acted in concert to ensure that BLM reins in Ireland!

  • @Wilkey
    @Jack D


    The hospitals have their own bureaucratic goals and vaccination is not a priority for them. In many cases the vaccine gets delivered and then it just sits there – they’ll give it out when they get around to it.
     
    I sincerely doubt this is a widespread issue, considering that a lot of other activity at hospitals is shut down (thanks to COVID) and all the attention being paid to it, they probably want to be done with COVID as soon as anyone.

    Replies: @Jack D

    I sincerely doubt this is a widespread issue,

    If this was not an issue then why has only a small % of the produced vaccine been administered? The stuff should be disappearing into people’s arms as fast as it can be produced but it isn’t. It’s bad enough that they aren’t giving it to the right people but they are not even giving it to the wrong people either.

  • @candid_observer
    As with just about everything else about this pandemic, it seems impossible to get a straight answer about a phenomenon of major importance. Why is there such an enormous lag in the numbers of vaccinated, compared to the number of doses distributed?

    Reporting lag? Reluctance to take the vaccine? Improper allocation of doses? General bureaucratic incompetence at the state level in allocating vaccines?

    2020 is perhaps the year in which we fully realized there are no adults in any room. You can't trust the bureaucrats, you can't trust political leaders, you can't trust the journalists, you can't trust the scientists, you can't trust the experts, there are no institutions worthy of your respect. It's facades behind facades.

    You've got your own brain and your own judgment, and that's all you've got. We are alone on this earth.

    Replies: @Justvisiting, @That Would Be Telling, @Jack D, @Bert

    You’ve got your own brain and your own judgment, and that’s all you’ve got. We are alone on this earth.

    Today I posted similar evidence and the same conclusion as yours in a different thread. The only solace is having a wife or close friend who is also rational.

  • @Jonathan Mason
    @Buffalo Joe

    Oh absolutely, it's ridiculous to blame the Federal government or to blame a doddery old man in Washington for issues relating to the logistics of vaccine distribution.

    Each of the States is bigger than many small nations, and California is larger and wealthier than all but the largest nations in the world,.

    So if tiny independent nations like Barbados can completely develop and run their own policies, testing procedures, vaccination procedures and so on it is ridiculous to think that states of the United States cannot fend for themselves, and state governments and legislatures should accept full responsibility for health care in the territories they govern.

    But having said that, the CDC, which exists solely for the purpose of controlling diseases, has performed absolutely abysmally right from the start in making recommendations that States can follow.

    We thought that the CDC was the world's premier disease control organisation, but it appears that it is no more effective than the Bermuda department of health that serves 75, 000 people.

    A lot of heads should roll.

    Trump has supported initiatives that made it easier to develop and market the vaccines much faster than normal, for example the venture financing that made it possible to manufacture millions of doses before the drugs were approved for use, which would not normally be done.

    To what extent this was really Trump's idea, or just something that anybody would have done I don't know. There doesn't seem to be in any partisan opposition to using government funds to accelerate vaccine development, and the Russian and Chinese vaccine seem to have come through in the same time frame, and even the Finlay institute in Cuba has a vaccine now in trials.

    On the other hand we have a situation where the AstraZeneca vaccine has now been approved in the UK, that is not expected to obtain approval in the US until April, which is a big time gap. The AstraZeneca vaccine has the massive advantage of being much cheaper, and also much easier to distribute.

    And I don't think anybody is trusting the Russian vaccine although it is already being rolled out in Argentina and Venezuela, which were once United States areas of influence.

    No one in Congress seems to be asking the right questions, which is standard operating procedure.

    Replies: @Bardon Kaldian, @Buffalo Joe, @AnotherDad, @clyde

  • @Anon
    The West Point cheating scandal is both entertaining and depressing.

    A bunch of mostly black athlete cadets, 73 in all, cheated on a calculus test given remotely because of Covid. Calculus for black athletes? LOL.

    The athletes were allowed to play in a bowl game because the investigation is ongoing. Imagine if a white cadet had been accused of an n-word or such infraction. Would they wait for an investigation?

    The superintendent of the school is a black general who has decided that the honor code "has resulted in an inequitable application of consequences and developmental opportunities for select groups of cadets." His white minion said that the cheating wouldn't have happened if it weren't a remote learning situation ... uh, so what?

    Background: White cadets have been summarily expelled, 150 at once in 1975, 90 or so a decade or two before that. 125 at one time from the Air Force Academy.

    I know they have to find makework jobs for black "generals" or else they'd be commanding actual military units, but they can still cause trouble.

    Replies: @Buffalo Joe, @clyde, @Hibernian, @Rob

    TwoNineNine, well the commandant is now in the service of a POTUS, biden, who is a certified plagiarist. So cheating will be acceptable.

  • @Jonathan Mason
    @Buffalo Joe

    Oh absolutely, it's ridiculous to blame the Federal government or to blame a doddery old man in Washington for issues relating to the logistics of vaccine distribution.

    Each of the States is bigger than many small nations, and California is larger and wealthier than all but the largest nations in the world,.

    So if tiny independent nations like Barbados can completely develop and run their own policies, testing procedures, vaccination procedures and so on it is ridiculous to think that states of the United States cannot fend for themselves, and state governments and legislatures should accept full responsibility for health care in the territories they govern.

    But having said that, the CDC, which exists solely for the purpose of controlling diseases, has performed absolutely abysmally right from the start in making recommendations that States can follow.

    We thought that the CDC was the world's premier disease control organisation, but it appears that it is no more effective than the Bermuda department of health that serves 75, 000 people.

    A lot of heads should roll.

    Trump has supported initiatives that made it easier to develop and market the vaccines much faster than normal, for example the venture financing that made it possible to manufacture millions of doses before the drugs were approved for use, which would not normally be done.

    To what extent this was really Trump's idea, or just something that anybody would have done I don't know. There doesn't seem to be in any partisan opposition to using government funds to accelerate vaccine development, and the Russian and Chinese vaccine seem to have come through in the same time frame, and even the Finlay institute in Cuba has a vaccine now in trials.

    On the other hand we have a situation where the AstraZeneca vaccine has now been approved in the UK, that is not expected to obtain approval in the US until April, which is a big time gap. The AstraZeneca vaccine has the massive advantage of being much cheaper, and also much easier to distribute.

    And I don't think anybody is trusting the Russian vaccine although it is already being rolled out in Argentina and Venezuela, which were once United States areas of influence.

    No one in Congress seems to be asking the right questions, which is standard operating procedure.

    Replies: @Bardon Kaldian, @Buffalo Joe, @AnotherDad, @clyde

    Jon, Gold Border worthy comment, but the Gold Border is as hard to get as a Nobel Peace Prize or Emmy. Just kidding, excellent comment! Stay safe.

  • @Wilkey
    @Altai


    I suppose there is a focus on vaccinating people who tend to tend to act as key spreaders or spreaders to the already vulnerable. If it better to spend your time vaccinating the elderly or the nurses at the hospitals who might give an elderly person in hospital for something else the killing blow of covid?
     
    Indeed. Presumably when they're vaccinating the nursing home residents they are vaccinating the employees, as well. It would certainly be the easiest thing to do, logistically, as well - at least for the employees who are on shift.

    Replies: @Buffalo Joe

    Wilkey, you are absolutely correct. The residents of most nursing facilities are on 24/7 lock down, basically confined to their rooms. So when a resident contracts Covid, chances are overwhelming that they caught the virus from staff members.

  • @International Jew
    According to an online calculator, I'm number 31 millionth in line, in California. I was going to be #40 million but I have a smart lawyer.

    Replies: @AnotherDad, @Desiderius

    According to an online calculator, I’m number 31 millionth in line, in California. I was going to be #40 million but I have a smart lawyer.

    Well done!

    Apparently my unz comments have been noted, i looked at the list and i’m

    #7, 814,523,074 just behind “Andamanese#437” and just in front of Kevin MacDonald.

  • @fish
    @Vine gill buin


    No wonder white girls like Nikki Haleys daughters prefer Black Men
     
    Oh the lengths modern teenaged girls will go to in order to upset their mothers.......

    Replies: @Gary in Gramercy

    Why can’t she just starve herself and listen to Courtney Love, like a normal idiot teenage girl?

    “Harold, it’s not my fault. How was I to know that when I said, ‘Blacks are this season’s chicest fashion accessory,’ she would take me literally and get one for herself? This generation doesn’t know sarcasm when they hear it.”

  • @Jack D
    @candid_observer

    Scary but true. Our institutions are rotten from the inside. They are like a termite ridden tree - the surface may appear intact but it is just a shell concealing the rot within. The enemy is within the gates. Their missions have been subverted. The mission of the public health establishment is not public health, it is "DIE". The mission of the government establishment is DIE. The mission of the scientific establishment is DIE. The mission of the journalistic establishment is DIE. Their ostensible goals have all be subordinated to the Prime Directive. Every hiring decision, every policy decision, is tainted with DIE.

    The white males who made things run have all been MeTooed or cowed into submission. Their diverse replacements are at best incompetent and ineffectual and at worst have actively steered their institutions way from their former goals. The CDC was concerned with "epidemics" of fast food and gun violence in the minority community instead of actual epidemics. As an Atlanta based organization, they were staffed mostly with black incompetents.

    And the scary thing is that you ain't seen nothin' yet. There is still some residual white male talent, even if it is elderly and a little wokish (though not fully Woke). Guys like Biden and Fauci. These guys were never that good but what comes after them is even worse, much worse. Après eux, le déluge.

    Replies: @Justvisiting, @BenKenobi

    The white males who made things run have all been MeTooed or cowed into submission. Their diverse replacements are at best incompetent and ineffectual and at worst have actively steered their institutions way from their former goals.

    I did have an opportunity to learn from a friend about the inner workings of an “Equal Opportunity” operation of a .gov agency.

    It was hilarious.

    They hired up all minorities for the key positions–and did have a real mission.

    It was an anti-straight white male mission, but it was a real mission with real policies, procedures, goals etc.

    The employees were totally incapable of implementing anything. They spent all day talking about their many kids, “relationships”, friends etc. and had neither the interest nor the abilities to do anything but fill up space in their office.

    The employees were incapable of doing even the most basic arithmetic, were not able to master any basic computer skills, were unable to write even simple English sentences or spell words correctly (even with the help of spell check!), and would mangle basic English grammar.

    Letters issued from the office were comedy gold–total word salad.

    The bosses couldn’t get rid of the employees without risking a lawsuit.

    Basically, it was welfare masquerading as .gov work.

    • Thanks: Rob
  • “the states that are doing worst have fewer climate-related excuses.”

    Lol 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂

    My excuses are an IQ over 82 and age under 50 – the age group where the fake vax is two to four orders of magnitude less effective than the immune system.

    After you’re fake vaxed, Sailer, you will still wear at least one diaper for the rest of your life, so why the hurry!

  • The UK has given emergency approval to a third vaccine, the Oxford-AstraZeneca vaccine. Additionally, in an effort to get as many people as possible, vaccinated quickly there going with a bit of a different distribution strategy by not giving the second booster shot until 12 weeks later. True, the Oxford-AstraZeneca has lower efficacy then pfizer and Moderna but doesn’t have the super cold requirement and apparently easier to manufacture. However the FDA has no plan to grant emergency approval until April????? It seems to me if they approved the Oxford-AstraZeneca vaccine now, we could do a two pronged approach. Give the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines to most vulnerable and the Oxford to everyone else who wants it.

    • Replies: @That Would Be Telling
    @George Taylor


    True, the Oxford-AstraZeneca has lower efficacy then pfizer and Moderna but doesn’t have the super cold requirement and apparently easier to manufacture. However the FDA has no plan to grant emergency approval until April?????
     
    A massively lower efficacy, earlier reported to be 62%, I don't know if they've gotten a better number since then (the 70% was always a lie, and the 90% from a small number of subjects who'd accidentally received a half dose for their first dose is reported to have not panned out).

    On the other hand, the new U.K. policy of spacing out the two doses by as many as twelve weeks might actually be an attempt to get around the presumed cause of the low efficacy, the immune system zapping too much of the second dose's virus vector before it can do its thing; it's certainly stark raving mad to to this with their Pfizer/BioNTech doses. Compare to Sputnik V which uses two different viruses for the first and second doses, and Janssen which is attempting a single dose, with a backup of two doses 57 days apart.

    The issue with the FDA is that AZ/Oxford has been a testing clown show from the beginning, and their FDA quality Phase III trial started at the end of August, was with all the other trials put on hold a week later due to an adverse event in a U.K. trial, and was not OKed by the FDA to resume for 40 days.

    So despite the $1.2 billion Wikipedia Operation Warp Speed has earmarked for it---actually, that's probably the cost of the FDA quality Phase III trial---it's going to be some time before that trial will have enough safety and efficacy data to make an Emergency Use Authorization (EUA) application. April sounds plausible if they don't make more mistakes.
    , @anon
    @George Taylor

    The AstraZeneca vaccine was shown to be effective in reducing severe disease:

    "Vaccine efficacy was also assessed on the secondary endpoint of early prevention of severe disease after the first dose. There were no hospitalisations or severe cases of COVID-19 more than 21 days after the first dose of the vaccine. Ten participants in the control group were hospitalised due to COVID-19, among whom two were assessed as severe, including one fatal case.'

    I think all the major vaccines will be good enough to reduce severe outcomes to a minimal level. And I think actual administration to millions of Brits will be more informative that the much smaller phase 3 trials. Major vaccines include the US ones and the Chinese and Russian vaccines. Which is a good thing because the world is a big place.

  • @Jonathan Mason
    @Buffalo Joe

    Oh absolutely, it's ridiculous to blame the Federal government or to blame a doddery old man in Washington for issues relating to the logistics of vaccine distribution.

    Each of the States is bigger than many small nations, and California is larger and wealthier than all but the largest nations in the world,.

    So if tiny independent nations like Barbados can completely develop and run their own policies, testing procedures, vaccination procedures and so on it is ridiculous to think that states of the United States cannot fend for themselves, and state governments and legislatures should accept full responsibility for health care in the territories they govern.

    But having said that, the CDC, which exists solely for the purpose of controlling diseases, has performed absolutely abysmally right from the start in making recommendations that States can follow.

    We thought that the CDC was the world's premier disease control organisation, but it appears that it is no more effective than the Bermuda department of health that serves 75, 000 people.

    A lot of heads should roll.

    Trump has supported initiatives that made it easier to develop and market the vaccines much faster than normal, for example the venture financing that made it possible to manufacture millions of doses before the drugs were approved for use, which would not normally be done.

    To what extent this was really Trump's idea, or just something that anybody would have done I don't know. There doesn't seem to be in any partisan opposition to using government funds to accelerate vaccine development, and the Russian and Chinese vaccine seem to have come through in the same time frame, and even the Finlay institute in Cuba has a vaccine now in trials.

    On the other hand we have a situation where the AstraZeneca vaccine has now been approved in the UK, that is not expected to obtain approval in the US until April, which is a big time gap. The AstraZeneca vaccine has the massive advantage of being much cheaper, and also much easier to distribute.

    And I don't think anybody is trusting the Russian vaccine although it is already being rolled out in Argentina and Venezuela, which were once United States areas of influence.

    No one in Congress seems to be asking the right questions, which is standard operating procedure.

    Replies: @Bardon Kaldian, @Buffalo Joe, @AnotherDad, @clyde

    But having said that, the CDC, which exists solely for the purpose of controlling diseases, has performed absolutely abysmally right from the start in making recommendations that States can follow.

    Spot on.

    We thought that the CDC was the world’s premier disease control organisation, but it appears that it is no more effective than the Bermuda department of health that serves 75, 000 people.

    Quibble here. Having had to wear a tight cap during the 2014 Ebola deal to keep my head from exploding, i already knew the CDC”s primary mission was fighting racism and xenophobia, helping Africa and opposing tired old concepts like borders, quarantines.

    A lot of heads should roll.

    Key word, “should”. Trump’s inability/unwillingness to manage, to hold people to account–appalling. Biden? LOL … they did exactly what he wanted. Sowed confusion, fanned the epidemic, tanked the economy. They are heroes!

    ~~

    As with everything else in the modern West it comes down to minoritarianism.

    A competent, nationalist “white guy” style CDC we could have spent 2020 basking pleasantly behind closed borders (a few thousands of people doing short stints in quarantine at remote military bases) living life as per normal … while the world stumbled through this thing.

  • @J.Ross
    https://twitter.com/boriquagato/status/1343965548619517952

    Replies: @Je Suis Omar Mateen, @HA

    TrūFaith Covidiots will retort that without Facediapers™ and assburger-distancing and lockdowns, deaths woulda been ever so much higher.

    If a diapered state has fewer deaths attributed to Hoax19, Covidiots assert diapering works; if deaths are higher than normal undiapered states, Covidiots assert diapering works cuz it woulda been worse without diapers, dontcha know.

    Covid is a cult, it is nonfalsifiable. Every person walking about bediapered has joined an anti-science religion. They will diaper til death unless they are more afraid to diaper in public than they fear the coronasniffles.

    • Agree: BB753
  • @Jonathan Mason
    @Buffalo Joe

    Oh absolutely, it's ridiculous to blame the Federal government or to blame a doddery old man in Washington for issues relating to the logistics of vaccine distribution.

    Each of the States is bigger than many small nations, and California is larger and wealthier than all but the largest nations in the world,.

    So if tiny independent nations like Barbados can completely develop and run their own policies, testing procedures, vaccination procedures and so on it is ridiculous to think that states of the United States cannot fend for themselves, and state governments and legislatures should accept full responsibility for health care in the territories they govern.

    But having said that, the CDC, which exists solely for the purpose of controlling diseases, has performed absolutely abysmally right from the start in making recommendations that States can follow.

    We thought that the CDC was the world's premier disease control organisation, but it appears that it is no more effective than the Bermuda department of health that serves 75, 000 people.

    A lot of heads should roll.

    Trump has supported initiatives that made it easier to develop and market the vaccines much faster than normal, for example the venture financing that made it possible to manufacture millions of doses before the drugs were approved for use, which would not normally be done.

    To what extent this was really Trump's idea, or just something that anybody would have done I don't know. There doesn't seem to be in any partisan opposition to using government funds to accelerate vaccine development, and the Russian and Chinese vaccine seem to have come through in the same time frame, and even the Finlay institute in Cuba has a vaccine now in trials.

    On the other hand we have a situation where the AstraZeneca vaccine has now been approved in the UK, that is not expected to obtain approval in the US until April, which is a big time gap. The AstraZeneca vaccine has the massive advantage of being much cheaper, and also much easier to distribute.

    And I don't think anybody is trusting the Russian vaccine although it is already being rolled out in Argentina and Venezuela, which were once United States areas of influence.

    No one in Congress seems to be asking the right questions, which is standard operating procedure.

    Replies: @Bardon Kaldian, @Buffalo Joe, @AnotherDad, @clyde

    The CDC is in Atlanta Georgia. Who do you think is staffing this maximally bollixed up USG agency?

  • @J.Ross
    Charles Murray said give it to the private sector, the government cannot handle things like this, and now a pharmacist has apparently ruined a stash of the chilly ones, possibly not even as a political statement but just a pure mistake.

    Replies: @Hibernian

    It’s been reported that he admitted to doing it deliberately.

  • @Not Raul
    I’m puzzled by how poorly Washington is doing.

    Could this be due to some weird artifact in the data?

    Washington was one of the early leaders in testing; and like West Virginia & South Dakota, has a large German-American population.

    Replies: @Bill P, @Thoughts, @Hibernian

    One of my Dad’s friends was a priest from Wheeling WV named Niehaus, but I don’t think WV is all that German.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Hibernian


    One of my Dad’s friends was a priest from Wheeling WV named Niehaus, but I don’t think WV is all that German.
     
    West Virginia "Germans" are generally Scots-Irish with a colonial Palatine male line. I did my WV-native brother-in-law's genealogy, and several (modified) Palatine surnames of his neighbors turned up as distant relatives. But all these people are Scots-Irish with a dollop of kraut for flavor.

    Elvis's Presleys (not his male line) were originally Presslars. Dale Earnhardt was overwhelmingly scores Irish, and Dale Jr more so, despite the (half-Anglicized) surname. Kevin Costner and Patsy Cline may have similar stories.

    What West Virginia has is Italians, e.g., Mary Lou Retton, and Joe Manchin (once Mancini). Dean Martin was born just outside the state in Steubenville.

    Did you know about West Virginia’s deep Italian heritage?

    West Virginia’s Little Italy Communities

    e-WV: Italians

    Replies: @Jack D, @Desiderius, @Reg Cæsar

  • @Anon
    The West Point cheating scandal is both entertaining and depressing.

    A bunch of mostly black athlete cadets, 73 in all, cheated on a calculus test given remotely because of Covid. Calculus for black athletes? LOL.

    The athletes were allowed to play in a bowl game because the investigation is ongoing. Imagine if a white cadet had been accused of an n-word or such infraction. Would they wait for an investigation?

    The superintendent of the school is a black general who has decided that the honor code "has resulted in an inequitable application of consequences and developmental opportunities for select groups of cadets." His white minion said that the cheating wouldn't have happened if it weren't a remote learning situation ... uh, so what?

    Background: White cadets have been summarily expelled, 150 at once in 1975, 90 or so a decade or two before that. 125 at one time from the Air Force Academy.

    I know they have to find makework jobs for black "generals" or else they'd be commanding actual military units, but they can still cause trouble.

    Replies: @Buffalo Joe, @clyde, @Hibernian, @Rob

    I was unaware of this West Point cheating scandal. Black affaleetes cheating on calculus exams that are given remotely due to CovidX. Who woulda thunk it.

  • @Anon
    The West Point cheating scandal is both entertaining and depressing.

    A bunch of mostly black athlete cadets, 73 in all, cheated on a calculus test given remotely because of Covid. Calculus for black athletes? LOL.

    The athletes were allowed to play in a bowl game because the investigation is ongoing. Imagine if a white cadet had been accused of an n-word or such infraction. Would they wait for an investigation?

    The superintendent of the school is a black general who has decided that the honor code "has resulted in an inequitable application of consequences and developmental opportunities for select groups of cadets." His white minion said that the cheating wouldn't have happened if it weren't a remote learning situation ... uh, so what?

    Background: White cadets have been summarily expelled, 150 at once in 1975, 90 or so a decade or two before that. 125 at one time from the Air Force Academy.

    I know they have to find makework jobs for black "generals" or else they'd be commanding actual military units, but they can still cause trouble.

    Replies: @Buffalo Joe, @clyde, @Hibernian, @Rob

    His white minion said that the cheating wouldn’t have happened if it weren’t a remote learning situation … uh, so what?

    There’s no proctor present when a Lieutenant radios in the position of his platoon.

  • @Steve Sailer
    @anon

    Even in California the % of tests coming back as positive has dropped a little over the last week, which ought to be a good sign.

    One question is are there large population centers that haven't had their turn in the barrel yet?

    Southern California wasn't hit much at all in the spring, and took only a modest beating in July, so December to ? is its first big go around.

    I don't think Northern California has been hit hard yet.

    Replies: @Lot, @anon, @JimB, @Hippopotamusdrome, @Peterike, @Buzz Mohawk

    Good God, Steve. Are you a part of some conspiracy, or what?

    Is all this because you live in post-cancer fear, in your closet?

    OR IS THERE MORE TO THIS?

    Do you realize that you do not in this case represent even a pathetic fraction of real people?

    All of what I am alluding to leads to suspicion. Suspicion and doubt about you.

    • Agree: BenKenobi
    • Replies: @Sparkylyle92
    @Buzz Mohawk

    "Good God, Steve. Are you a part of some conspiracy, or what?"

    Yes, he is. Or at least he's a paid agent of influence/liar. I know this because he repeatedly pushed a fairly trivial hoax based on crudely photoshopped images. He's mentioned fake photos before so I'm sure he knew it was a hoax. I'm referring to the Tiger Woods-wants-to-join-the-SEALs ad campaign; it didn't rise to the dignity of a decent psyop. But if he'd lie for the deep state in even such a trivial matter, his cover is blown.
    It's interesting that they're willing to expend the credibility of people like Sailer, Unz and Bernard at MoonofAlabama over this Covid malarkey. It shows how much our rulers want to sell this stinking pile of bullshit.

    , @AKAHorace
    @Buzz Mohawk


    OR IS THERE MORE TO THIS?

    Do you realize that you do not in this case represent even a pathetic fraction of real people?

    All of what I am alluding to leads to suspicion. Suspicion and doubt about you.
     
    Buzz,

    You believe in a conspiracy that includes the health departments of many countries in the world including Mexico, Hungary, Belgium, North Macedonia, Slovenia, Peru, San Marino, Italy ... (all of which report high death tolls from Covid) ? https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

    You would have also to include the Russians who have gone to the trouble of making a new vaccine.

    The governments that have been skeptical of Coronavirus include Bylorus, Brazil and Sweden. They don't have much in common ideologically.

    And who do you mean by a "pathetic fraction of read people" ?

    I think that Steve Sailer has mostly got it right about Covid. But even if he was wrong is it rational to believe in a conspiracy that is so widespread ? It seems that a lot of people in the west under rated masks at first and overdid the lockdown, but this looks like a normal screwup that happens when we have to deal with a new disease. Wearing masks is a precaution that costs little even if it was a complete waste of time. Not everything is a conspiracy. Even if you are right about Covid it is more likely to be a massive fuck up, not some global plot.

    Replies: @Buzz Mohawk

  • @Dan Hayes
    @YetAnotherAnon

    As is their wont, the complete “Irish Central” article gives their usual BLM spin!

    For the realistic “spin” on this ongoing atrocity, you are referred to yesterday’s issue of “The Burkean”!

    Replies: @Dan Hayes, @Dan Hayes, @Dan Hayes

    Even better, you are referred to today’s (1 Jan 2021) issue of “The Burkean” which demonstrates how the Irish Establishment and useful idiot SJWs have acted in concert to ensure that BLM reins in Ireland!

  • @Dan Hayes
    @YetAnotherAnon

    As is their wont, the complete “Irish Central” article gives their usual BLM spin!

    For the realistic “spin” on this ongoing atrocity, you are referred to yesterday’s issue of “The Burkean”!

    Replies: @Dan Hayes, @Dan Hayes, @Dan Hayes

    Even better, you are referred to today’s (1 Jan 2021) issue of “The Burkean” which demonstrates how the Irish Establishment and useful idiot SJWs have acted in concert to ensure that BLM reins in Ireland!

  • @Dan Hayes
    @YetAnotherAnon

    As is their wont, the complete “Irish Central” article gives their usual BLM spin!

    For the realistic “spin” on this ongoing atrocity, you are referred to yesterday’s issue of “The Burkean”!

    Replies: @Dan Hayes, @Dan Hayes, @Dan Hayes

    Even better, you are referred to today’s (1 Jan 2021) issue of “The Burkean” which demonstrates how the Irish Establishment and useful idiot SJWs have acted in concert to ensure that BLM reins in Ireland!

  • @Jack D
    @candid_observer

    Scary but true. Our institutions are rotten from the inside. They are like a termite ridden tree - the surface may appear intact but it is just a shell concealing the rot within. The enemy is within the gates. Their missions have been subverted. The mission of the public health establishment is not public health, it is "DIE". The mission of the government establishment is DIE. The mission of the scientific establishment is DIE. The mission of the journalistic establishment is DIE. Their ostensible goals have all be subordinated to the Prime Directive. Every hiring decision, every policy decision, is tainted with DIE.

    The white males who made things run have all been MeTooed or cowed into submission. Their diverse replacements are at best incompetent and ineffectual and at worst have actively steered their institutions way from their former goals. The CDC was concerned with "epidemics" of fast food and gun violence in the minority community instead of actual epidemics. As an Atlanta based organization, they were staffed mostly with black incompetents.

    And the scary thing is that you ain't seen nothin' yet. There is still some residual white male talent, even if it is elderly and a little wokish (though not fully Woke). Guys like Biden and Fauci. These guys were never that good but what comes after them is even worse, much worse. Après eux, le déluge.

    Replies: @Justvisiting, @BenKenobi

    Après eux, le déluge.

    Après le déluge, nous.

    I’m not worried.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @BenKenobi

    Signed,

    Alfred E. Newman

    , @Mr. Anon
    @BenKenobi


    Après le déluge, nous.
     
    A very good comeback to King Louis' maxim.
  • @theMann
    https://www.lewrockwell.com/2020/12/gary-d-barnett/dr-igor-shepherds-talk-about-the-horrors-of-the-covid-vaccine-full-transcript/


    By all means, hurry up and get your vaccine.

    Important additional info: half of all Medical Pro's across Europe and the USA refusing the vaccines. Hey, they are all hysterical conspiracy theorists. Take your conspiracy theory pick:

    1. The vaccine is a kill switch designed to wipe out billions.

    2. The vaccine is a protection from a kill switch, a viral weapon which already exists, designed to kill the unvaccinated.

    3. The vaccines are part of a greater control system (that much is an absolute fact) but also a multibillion dollar cash cow, unproven, untested, but very profitable for TPTB.

    Replies: @Rob

    I do not agree with any of the points one through three.

    I just want to point at that the professional-managerial class and above are atrocious.

    [MORE]
    The educational system is dedicated to destroying the meritocracy and putting 90 IQ mulatto women in commissar roles in every public and private organization.

    There is a political party dedicated to hurting whites. Many of that party’s white supporters think that they are excepted. Perhaps Jews do feel that white liberals are different than the white deplorables they hate and fear, and liberals certainly hate conservatives plenty even without Jews’ influence, but when the POC say whites, they mean all of us.

    There is another political party with many goals: helping Israel, killing A-rabs. Transferring wealth to defense contractors. Moving the physical capital of America to Asia, which they think has a docile, obedient workforce and pragmatic, amoral elites who will let wealthy whites flee there to be rich and influential when they have drained America dry.

    Both parties have betrayed America’s historic majority. They despise us for letting them, they fear our reaction when the wheels come off and we realize what they have done. Through their 100% effective effort in thwarting Candidate Trump they have incontrovertibly proven that democracy is dead, though voting will continue for..,years, decades. It does not matter to us, as the new people the bipartisan elite have imported broke Democracy even without the hostile elite’s total control.

    Despite both parties being equally guilty in killing America, the two wings of the political elite absolutely hate each other. If they weren’t completely parasitic and actually tried to implement policies that their constituents want, we would have open warfare. As it is, the only tool that either political set will use to please their voters is using style to anger the opposing side. Take Obama. He did not do much that would please progressives. All he did for them was send conservatives into flaming hot rage. Ditto Trump, the only Trump supporter who has any material reason to be pleased with Trump is Sheldon Adelson. But a lot of conservatives, including many people here, who really should no better, liked Trump because he pissed off liberals.

    Neither party will do anything for either their voters or to draw in new supporters from the non-voters or marginal supporters of the other side. Some of this is driven by financing considerations. The ideologues who support both parties, but especially the Democrats, are doing fine. They do not have strong unmet material needs. They donate to their blue warriors whenever they denounce Trump. The Republican donors are doing fine off outsourcing production and insourcing aliens, which has the double benefit of depressing wages and raising rents.

    The voting bases? They are hurting. Blacks will never do well in any modern economy, so let’s discount them. But everyone else? A huge number vote against their interests because that pisses off the other sides partisans. But doing anything that your voters want gives them one less reason to vote for you next time. Carl Rove, I believe, stated this. Plus, doing stuff for voters takes time and energy away from what they think they’re doing, looting an endless piggy bank, and what they’re actually doing, murdering a very ill nation. A dead nation whose carcass will provide very few of the parasites with great wealth they can take away from it.

    The partisans are so filled with flaming-hot rage, they cannot see that the other side’s voters (not the elite) has legitimate interests. Every so often, they apply this to elections and lose, like when Clinton’s campaign staff thought they did not have to convince racist whites to vote for them. The left also could not understand that millions of people supported Trump because they wanted their $7.25/hr Wal-Mart jobs replaced with their $40/hour factory jobs they lost when the capitalists moved the factories to x. Nope, they supported Trump because racism.

    Finally, to end a comment that is much too long, I’ll get to my point. That the elite is so untrustworthy that roughly half the country thinks the coronavirus is fake, the election was stolen, and the vaccine is genocide…that country will not live long,

  • @Buzz Mohawk
    @Steve Sailer

    Good God, Steve. Are you a part of some conspiracy, or what?

    Is all this because you live in post-cancer fear, in your closet?

    OR IS THERE MORE TO THIS?

    Do you realize that you do not in this case represent even a pathetic fraction of real people?

    All of what I am alluding to leads to suspicion. Suspicion and doubt about you.

    Replies: @Sparkylyle92, @AKAHorace

    “Good God, Steve. Are you a part of some conspiracy, or what?”

    Yes, he is. Or at least he’s a paid agent of influence/liar. I know this because he repeatedly pushed a fairly trivial hoax based on crudely photoshopped images. He’s mentioned fake photos before so I’m sure he knew it was a hoax. I’m referring to the Tiger Woods-wants-to-join-the-SEALs ad campaign; it didn’t rise to the dignity of a decent psyop. But if he’d lie for the deep state in even such a trivial matter, his cover is blown.
    It’s interesting that they’re willing to expend the credibility of people like Sailer, Unz and Bernard at MoonofAlabama over this Covid malarkey. It shows how much our rulers want to sell this stinking pile of bullshit.

  • @J.Ross
    https://twitter.com/boriquagato/status/1343965548619517952

    Replies: @Je Suis Omar Mateen, @HA

    “global health policy in 2020 has centered around NPI’s (non-pharmaceutical interventions) like distancing, masks, school closures…these have been sold as a way to stop infection as though this were science….this was never true and that fact was known and knowable.”

    Ah, the old COVID propter hoc fallacy takes on a new form. This so-called research is likely from the same basket of idiots who found a correlation between states applying lockdown measures and COVID deaths and then claimed lockdowns themselves were the actual cause of all those excess deaths. Yeah, right.

    On a related conspiratorial note, it turns out that states like FL and TX and LA that issue hurricane warnings and engage in elaborate hurricane rescue efforts have a lot more hurricane damage than North Dakota and Illinois. Spooky, huh? Likewise, avalanche rescues and forecasts tend to happen more in states like CO than in states that never bother with them, like say FL and HI. Let’s see what Alex Jones has to say about that, shall we?

    Of course, none of that means that hurricane forecasting and rescue efforts actually cause or worsen hurricanes, and ditto for avalanches. And it’s the same thing with COVID restrictions. Mixing up dense/urban/brown/obese areas (where health officials are more likely to try and stop the tsunami before the ICU units dry up) with places where not as much needs to happen (or hasn’t yet) is not going to fool anyone who doesn’t want to be fooled.

    [MORE]

    Similarly, one of the resident anti-vaxxers around here once claimed — based on a small study that was subsequently contravened by a larger one that he conveniently forgot to mention, though that earlier study caused a lot of head-scratching for several years — that children who get the flu vaccine are actually several times more likely to suffer subsequent hospitalizations from flu. The explanation given for this anomaly (again, one that was affirmed by a larger study) was that doctors of children with asthma and other such conditions really hammered on their loony anti-vaxx parents until they relented and gave their children a flu shot more so than they would have if those children had had no risk factors.

    Again, this is all just various games with post hoc/propter hoc, though there’s not much point in trying to explain this to the true believers among the just-a-flo-bros or the anti-vaxxers. They’re not going to let science get in their way.

    • Disagree: Hippopotamusdrome
    • Replies: @BenKenobi
    @HA

    Just die of the coof already and spare us the drama.

    , @Mr. Anon
    @HA


    They’re not going to let science get in their way.
     
    "Science" is just a magic talisman to you lot. There is no correlation between lockdown severity or masking regime and pandemic outcome. Something that you continue to ignore. I can only assume because you are an obstinate idiot.

    Replies: @That Would Be Telling, @HA, @J.Ross

    , @Peterike
    @HA

    Being a belligerent, bed wetting hysteric is no way to go through life.

    Replies: @Gary in Gramercy, @HA

  • @Hibernian
    @Not Raul

    One of my Dad's friends was a priest from Wheeling WV named Niehaus, but I don't think WV is all that German.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    One of my Dad’s friends was a priest from Wheeling WV named Niehaus, but I don’t think WV is all that German.

    West Virginia “Germans” are generally Scots-Irish with a colonial Palatine male line. I did my WV-native brother-in-law’s genealogy, and several (modified) Palatine surnames of his neighbors turned up as distant relatives. But all these people are Scots-Irish with a dollop of kraut for flavor.

    Elvis’s Presleys (not his male line) were originally Presslars. Dale Earnhardt was overwhelmingly scores Irish, and Dale Jr more so, despite the (half-Anglicized) surname. Kevin Costner and Patsy Cline may have similar stories.

    What West Virginia has is Italians, e.g., Mary Lou Retton, and Joe Manchin (once Mancini). Dean Martin was born just outside the state in Steubenville.

    Did you know about West Virginia’s deep Italian heritage?

    West Virginia’s Little Italy Communities

    e-WV: Italians

    • Agree: Servant of Gla'aki
    • Replies: @Jack D
    @Reg Cæsar

    Coal mines always wanted cheap immigrant labor.

    Replies: @John Up North

    , @Desiderius
    @Reg Cæsar

    We're full-blooded German on Dad's side from around Kassel ca. 1876 and French/Anglo (likely Borderer) on mother's side. They met at Marshall before my dad (college grad and father - I was a newborn - whose dad was an engineer at DuPont) was shipped out to Nam.

    , @Reg Cæsar
    @Reg Cæsar

    That should read "overwhelmingly Scots-Irish". Besos's autocorrupt slipped one past me.

    And this clown has $200,000,000,000? Well, the Mrs bought a Kindle, so half a billionth of that is on us. Nostra culpa!

  • Many states and local politicians got their start in real estate where things are slow, disorganized, and usually not successful. Why wouldn’t we expect our politicians to continue the process when it comes to public health.

  • @Reg Cæsar
    @Hibernian


    One of my Dad’s friends was a priest from Wheeling WV named Niehaus, but I don’t think WV is all that German.
     
    West Virginia "Germans" are generally Scots-Irish with a colonial Palatine male line. I did my WV-native brother-in-law's genealogy, and several (modified) Palatine surnames of his neighbors turned up as distant relatives. But all these people are Scots-Irish with a dollop of kraut for flavor.

    Elvis's Presleys (not his male line) were originally Presslars. Dale Earnhardt was overwhelmingly scores Irish, and Dale Jr more so, despite the (half-Anglicized) surname. Kevin Costner and Patsy Cline may have similar stories.

    What West Virginia has is Italians, e.g., Mary Lou Retton, and Joe Manchin (once Mancini). Dean Martin was born just outside the state in Steubenville.

    Did you know about West Virginia’s deep Italian heritage?

    West Virginia’s Little Italy Communities

    e-WV: Italians

    Replies: @Jack D, @Desiderius, @Reg Cæsar

    Coal mines always wanted cheap immigrant labor.

    • Replies: @John Up North
    @Jack D

    Britain also has a population of people of Italian descent. Many Italians came to Britain to work in coal mines.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @BB753

  • @HA
    @J.Ross

    "global health policy in 2020 has centered around NPI's (non-pharmaceutical interventions) like distancing, masks, school closures...these have been sold as a way to stop infection as though this were science....this was never true and that fact was known and knowable."

    Ah, the old COVID propter hoc fallacy takes on a new form. This so-called research is likely from the same basket of idiots who found a correlation between states applying lockdown measures and COVID deaths and then claimed lockdowns themselves were the actual cause of all those excess deaths. Yeah, right.

    On a related conspiratorial note, it turns out that states like FL and TX and LA that issue hurricane warnings and engage in elaborate hurricane rescue efforts have a lot more hurricane damage than North Dakota and Illinois. Spooky, huh? Likewise, avalanche rescues and forecasts tend to happen more in states like CO than in states that never bother with them, like say FL and HI. Let's see what Alex Jones has to say about that, shall we?

    Of course, none of that means that hurricane forecasting and rescue efforts actually cause or worsen hurricanes, and ditto for avalanches. And it's the same thing with COVID restrictions. Mixing up dense/urban/brown/obese areas (where health officials are more likely to try and stop the tsunami before the ICU units dry up) with places where not as much needs to happen (or hasn't yet) is not going to fool anyone who doesn't want to be fooled.

    Similarly, one of the resident anti-vaxxers around here once claimed -- based on a small study that was subsequently contravened by a larger one that he conveniently forgot to mention, though that earlier study caused a lot of head-scratching for several years -- that children who get the flu vaccine are actually several times more likely to suffer subsequent hospitalizations from flu. The explanation given for this anomaly (again, one that was affirmed by a larger study) was that doctors of children with asthma and other such conditions really hammered on their loony anti-vaxx parents until they relented and gave their children a flu shot more so than they would have if those children had had no risk factors.

    Again, this is all just various games with post hoc/propter hoc, though there's not much point in trying to explain this to the true believers among the just-a-flo-bros or the anti-vaxxers. They're not going to let science get in their way.

    Replies: @BenKenobi, @Mr. Anon, @Peterike

    Just die of the coof already and spare us the drama.

    • Agree: Mr. Anon, Peterike, J.Ross
  • Re: West Virgina vax rates.

    I am under the impression that one corner of WV is a somewhat far but still suburban locale for many federal govt employees working in the DC beltway.

    Also a big federal IRS center in Martinsburg.

    So these higher rates may be due to ‘vax privilege’ line jumpers. They are after all Better Than Us and thus all Essential Workers.

    But maybe that’s just my tinfoil hat doing the writing….

  • The “Law of distance to the Canadian border” that Steve likes to refer to……

  • @George Taylor
    The UK has given emergency approval to a third vaccine, the Oxford-AstraZeneca vaccine. Additionally, in an effort to get as many people as possible, vaccinated quickly there going with a bit of a different distribution strategy by not giving the second booster shot until 12 weeks later. True, the Oxford-AstraZeneca has lower efficacy then pfizer and Moderna but doesn't have the super cold requirement and apparently easier to manufacture. However the FDA has no plan to grant emergency approval until April????? It seems to me if they approved the Oxford-AstraZeneca vaccine now, we could do a two pronged approach. Give the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines to most vulnerable and the Oxford to everyone else who wants it.

    Replies: @That Would Be Telling, @anon

    True, the Oxford-AstraZeneca has lower efficacy then pfizer and Moderna but doesn’t have the super cold requirement and apparently easier to manufacture. However the FDA has no plan to grant emergency approval until April?????

    A massively lower efficacy, earlier reported to be 62%, I don’t know if they’ve gotten a better number since then (the 70% was always a lie, and the 90% from a small number of subjects who’d accidentally received a half dose for their first dose is reported to have not panned out).

    On the other hand, the new U.K. policy of spacing out the two doses by as many as twelve weeks might actually be an attempt to get around the presumed cause of the low efficacy, the immune system zapping too much of the second dose’s virus vector before it can do its thing; it’s certainly stark raving mad to to this with their Pfizer/BioNTech doses. Compare to Sputnik V which uses two different viruses for the first and second doses, and Janssen which is attempting a single dose, with a backup of two doses 57 days apart.

    The issue with the FDA is that AZ/Oxford has been a testing clown show from the beginning, and their FDA quality Phase III trial started at the end of August, was with all the other trials put on hold a week later due to an adverse event in a U.K. trial, and was not OKed by the FDA to resume for 40 days.

    So despite the $1.2 billion Wikipedia Operation Warp Speed has earmarked for it—actually, that’s probably the cost of the FDA quality Phase III trial—it’s going to be some time before that trial will have enough safety and efficacy data to make an Emergency Use Authorization (EUA) application. April sounds plausible if they don’t make more mistakes.

  • @U. Ranus
    @Hippopotamusdrome

    The rushed tests, the lack of standards (e.g. cycle count) and the flawed statistics wrung out of testing should have been iSteve material.

    The fact that Steve never wrote about the hilariously easy to game testing s**tshow suggests that when it comes to CoronaPanic, we're not getting "organic" iSteve content.

    Replies: @Bill Jones, @Matt Buckalew

  • anon[120] • Disclaimer says:
    @That Would Be Telling
    @candid_observer


    As with just about everything else about this pandemic, it seems impossible to get a straight answer about a phenomenon of major importance. Why is there such an enormous lag in the numbers of vaccinated, compared to the number of doses distributed?

    Reporting lag?
     
    Also errors by the CDC, I copied the Wednesday the 30th numbers that day not all that long after the update, and note today on the massively upgraded page a total of 205,463 additional 1st doses administered were added. So a New, Improved number of 667,000 1st doses were reported from Monday to Wednesday. Before that, or maybe including some of the additional doses, 1.2 million were administered from the 24th to 28th.

    Given how long it took the FDA to grant Emergency Use Authorizations (EUAs), 21 days for Pfizer/BioNTech on 12/11, 18 days for Moderna on 12/18, add the limited number of places that can store Pfizer/BioNTech's vaccine so many locations were simply slotted to get Moderna's, Pfizer's ORANGE MAN BAD "Oops! We've going to miss our early promises by one half," these are not bad numbers. Note also as new targets of distribution and vaccination start, like long term care facilities, 2,166,200/167,149 as of Wednesday, there will be new learning curves to master.

    The web page is a lot more interesting now, they've added a map for which you can change what it displays and how, and that section also breaks out states, territories, and four Federal entities. There's also a "Federal Pharmacy Partnership for Long-Term Care Program (Subset of Overall Numbers)" from which I got the above numbers.

    Reporting lag is definitely a part of it, especially since that's the very least important part of the whole process, and this is a concentrated holiday season, it's perfectly fine for people in the public health system to take time off and delay reporting right now. Kansas is claiming that's behind their worst or nearly worst status, but it could also be a Democratic governor who's been at war with most of the rest of the state since the pandemic started. And as always to avoid embarrassing mistakes like that Johns Hopkins video maker, read the CDC's fine print about the data. Here's the most relevant info:

    Doses distributed and people initiating vaccination (1st dose received) ... reflect current data available as of 9:00am ET on the day of reporting. Data will be regularly updated on Monday, Wednesday and Friday. Updates will occur the following day when reporting coincides with a federal holiday.

    Healthcare providers report doses to federal, state, territorial, and local agencies up to 72 hours after administration. There may be additional lag for data to be transmitted from the federal, state, territorial, or local agency to CDC. A large difference between the number of doses distributed and the number of people initiating vaccination is expected at this point in the COVID vaccination program due to several factors, including delays in reporting of administered doses and management of available vaccine stocks by jurisdictions and federal pharmacy partners.

    Numbers reported on CDC’s website are validated through a submission process with each jurisdiction....

    This [Long-term care facility (LTCF)] data does not include doses distributed and administered to LTCF residents and staff outside the Federal Pharmacy Partnership Program....
     
    This page has information about the reporting systems which are mentioned in the fine print.

    Replies: @anon

    Providers have up to 72 hours to report? And no reporting on Federal Holidays two of which are in the final week of December?

    I think it is likely the states are a bit slow and sloppy, as opposed to disastrously incompetent.

    But I agree that the important thing is the actual progress, not the reporting of it. Not a single official has offered that the results are materially better than the reported figure, and provided an estimate.

    • Replies: @That Would Be Telling
    @anon


    Not a single official has offered that the results are materially better than the reported figure, and provided an estimate.
     
    Have you tried to figure out a way "a single official" or his staff could come up with a better estimate? All I can think of is using existing contacts to get more up to date spot information, that is, bothering people who have better things to do, then you'd have to have serious pull to extract granular data from the CDC, and very possibly states or local units depending on if and where data is aggregated to compare the two. Any better suggestions?? Have Operation Warp Speed (OWS) make military inspections of dispensing locations???

    You're also ignoring one really big thing about "officials" like Fauci who are using this to throw shade on Trump's greatest achievement in office, making Trump look good would be a career limiting move, especially with Biden making a big deal about how in his first hundred days he's going to get vaccinated less people than OWS was already planning.

    Past tense because everybody is screwed by Pfizer's failure to deliver ... and one thing you learn about last minute announcements like their's is that they're often just the beginning. Only good thing to say there is that they've admitted they need OWS supply chain help, but that doesn't mean they're going to actually accept it. Especially in the next 20 days were it would make the BAD ORANGE MAN look good.
  • @Luke Lea
    Got mine yesterday in Chattanooga as an over 75 year old. Arrived an hour and a half before 9 am opening and the line of cars was already a mile long. The county ran out of the Pfizer vaccine mid morning.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    Did they give you your shot in your car?

  • @Jack D
    @Reg Cæsar

    Coal mines always wanted cheap immigrant labor.

    Replies: @John Up North

    Britain also has a population of people of Italian descent. Many Italians came to Britain to work in coal mines.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @John Up North


    Britain also has a population of people of Italian descent. Many Italians came to Britain to work in coal mines.
     
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lena_Zavaroni
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victor_Spinetti
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dario_Franchitti
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Junior_Campbell#Early_life
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francis_Rossi

    Not all miners' spawn-- the Rossis hawked ice cream.

    https://www.rossiicecream.com


    https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/content/v1/5bf686385417fc9e06708091/1546604912946-6QTNQGWR31ZS4JLBSO9N/ke17ZwdGBToddI8pDm48kCB8C84Z5VFfa43m9D6CrUNZw-zPPgdn4jUwVcJE1ZvWQUxwkmyExglNqGp0IvTJZUJFbgE-7XRK3dMEBRBhUpyZ11CvGwa4pz_DSfiEVXwhXKLoPJIzLdwMvnQl13zpc2B8qTeB_wazQBK_l0jwA7A/Rossi+Ice+Cream.png

    Replies: @John Up North

    , @BB753
    @John Up North

    Poles too. Before WWI.

  • @ATate
    @Buffalo Joe

    I’m on the east side of the state. My betters on the cool side sneeringly refer to us as rednecks and meth heads. Then they have the unmitigated gall to come over here for low real estate prices. And then vote here the exact same way they did back in their cosmopolitan Valhalla they just left.

    I used to defend my home to them. Now I “Lean In”. It’s horribly racists here. Dangerous rednecks abound. Stay far away ooga booguh!!!

    The larpers started some shit after “mourning” big floyd the dead loser and our Republican Mayor stamped their shit out post haste.

    I hope they stay there and enjoy their amazing restaurants while I watch their city burn.

    Replies: @Buffalo Joe

    ATate, watch the video “Seattle is Dying” and then watch “Fight for the Soul of Seattle.” Progressives have destroyed a once great city and that is not hyperbole. Stay safe

  • Yo Sailer: Cali can’t find enough frontline nursing staff to take the fake vax, so beat feet to the nearest hospital and GET YO JAB, NINJA:

    https://www.zerohedge.com//covid-19/im-choosing-risk-getting-covid-over-half-health-care-workers-california-hospitals-refuse

    FAKE VAX ARE ROTTING IN THE SUBZERO FRIGERATOR

  • @Thoughts
    @Not Raul

    Hypochondriac leftist whites

    Covid is a cool thing to get, not a bad thing. Think of all the facebook sympathy plus you get to say to your conservative friends 'It's Real!'

    I said to someone at New Year's Yesterday...The only people who get Covid are people who believe in Covid

    Replies: @Je Suis Omar Mateen, @Jack D, @Wielgus

    “Covid is a cool thing to get, not a bad thing. Think of all the facebook sympathy plus you get to say to your conservative friends ‘It’s Real!’”

    I always send my condolences to the various and assorted Covidiots among my friends and family when their CoronaHoax tests comes back negative: Better luck next time! Whilst learning that 95% of men are ballless imbeciles, I also learned from the CoronaHoax that at least half my frens and fams are moral narcissists and virtue signalers.

  • anon[120] • Disclaimer says:
    @George Taylor
    The UK has given emergency approval to a third vaccine, the Oxford-AstraZeneca vaccine. Additionally, in an effort to get as many people as possible, vaccinated quickly there going with a bit of a different distribution strategy by not giving the second booster shot until 12 weeks later. True, the Oxford-AstraZeneca has lower efficacy then pfizer and Moderna but doesn't have the super cold requirement and apparently easier to manufacture. However the FDA has no plan to grant emergency approval until April????? It seems to me if they approved the Oxford-AstraZeneca vaccine now, we could do a two pronged approach. Give the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines to most vulnerable and the Oxford to everyone else who wants it.

    Replies: @That Would Be Telling, @anon

    The AstraZeneca vaccine was shown to be effective in reducing severe disease:

    “Vaccine efficacy was also assessed on the secondary endpoint of early prevention of severe disease after the first dose. There were no hospitalisations or severe cases of COVID-19 more than 21 days after the first dose of the vaccine. Ten participants in the control group were hospitalised due to COVID-19, among whom two were assessed as severe, including one fatal case.’

    I think all the major vaccines will be good enough to reduce severe outcomes to a minimal level. And I think actual administration to millions of Brits will be more informative that the much smaller phase 3 trials. Major vaccines include the US ones and the Chinese and Russian vaccines. Which is a good thing because the world is a big place.

  • @anon
    @That Would Be Telling

    Providers have up to 72 hours to report? And no reporting on Federal Holidays two of which are in the final week of December?

    I think it is likely the states are a bit slow and sloppy, as opposed to disastrously incompetent.

    But I agree that the important thing is the actual progress, not the reporting of it. Not a single official has offered that the results are materially better than the reported figure, and provided an estimate.

    Replies: @That Would Be Telling

    Not a single official has offered that the results are materially better than the reported figure, and provided an estimate.

    Have you tried to figure out a way “a single official” or his staff could come up with a better estimate? All I can think of is using existing contacts to get more up to date spot information, that is, bothering people who have better things to do, then you’d have to have serious pull to extract granular data from the CDC, and very possibly states or local units depending on if and where data is aggregated to compare the two. Any better suggestions?? Have Operation Warp Speed (OWS) make military inspections of dispensing locations???

    You’re also ignoring one really big thing about “officials” like Fauci who are using this to throw shade on Trump’s greatest achievement in office, making Trump look good would be a career limiting move, especially with Biden making a big deal about how in his first hundred days he’s going to get vaccinated less people than OWS was already planning.

    Past tense because everybody is screwed by Pfizer’s failure to deliver … and one thing you learn about last minute announcements like their’s is that they’re often just the beginning. Only good thing to say there is that they’ve admitted they need OWS supply chain help, but that doesn’t mean they’re going to actually accept it. Especially in the next 20 days were it would make the BAD ORANGE MAN look good.

  • @HA
    @J.Ross

    "global health policy in 2020 has centered around NPI's (non-pharmaceutical interventions) like distancing, masks, school closures...these have been sold as a way to stop infection as though this were science....this was never true and that fact was known and knowable."

    Ah, the old COVID propter hoc fallacy takes on a new form. This so-called research is likely from the same basket of idiots who found a correlation between states applying lockdown measures and COVID deaths and then claimed lockdowns themselves were the actual cause of all those excess deaths. Yeah, right.

    On a related conspiratorial note, it turns out that states like FL and TX and LA that issue hurricane warnings and engage in elaborate hurricane rescue efforts have a lot more hurricane damage than North Dakota and Illinois. Spooky, huh? Likewise, avalanche rescues and forecasts tend to happen more in states like CO than in states that never bother with them, like say FL and HI. Let's see what Alex Jones has to say about that, shall we?

    Of course, none of that means that hurricane forecasting and rescue efforts actually cause or worsen hurricanes, and ditto for avalanches. And it's the same thing with COVID restrictions. Mixing up dense/urban/brown/obese areas (where health officials are more likely to try and stop the tsunami before the ICU units dry up) with places where not as much needs to happen (or hasn't yet) is not going to fool anyone who doesn't want to be fooled.

    Similarly, one of the resident anti-vaxxers around here once claimed -- based on a small study that was subsequently contravened by a larger one that he conveniently forgot to mention, though that earlier study caused a lot of head-scratching for several years -- that children who get the flu vaccine are actually several times more likely to suffer subsequent hospitalizations from flu. The explanation given for this anomaly (again, one that was affirmed by a larger study) was that doctors of children with asthma and other such conditions really hammered on their loony anti-vaxx parents until they relented and gave their children a flu shot more so than they would have if those children had had no risk factors.

    Again, this is all just various games with post hoc/propter hoc, though there's not much point in trying to explain this to the true believers among the just-a-flo-bros or the anti-vaxxers. They're not going to let science get in their way.

    Replies: @BenKenobi, @Mr. Anon, @Peterike

    They’re not going to let science get in their way.

    “Science” is just a magic talisman to you lot. There is no correlation between lockdown severity or masking regime and pandemic outcome. Something that you continue to ignore. I can only assume because you are an obstinate idiot.

    • Replies: @That Would Be Telling
    @Mr. Anon


    There is no correlation between lockdown severity or masking regime and pandemic outcome.
     
    After you factor in compliance or lack thereof? LA/Southern California is guessed to have a very big problem with that, based for example on the disproportionate fraction of hospitalized and ICU patients who are Hispanic, 72% for LA County March 1st through December 26th, see pie chart on page 7. Also see how large the fraction are in the 18-49 years cohort.

    Replies: @Mr. Anon, @3g4me, @Mr. Anon

    , @HA
    @Mr. Anon

    "There is no correlation between lockdown severity or masking regime and pandemic outcome. "

    Certainly not if you're going to mix up dense urban areas with lots of slum-dwelling obese people along with states right near the Canadian border. Zero correlation, you say, in your link-free assertions? Yeah, big surprise there.

    But when one looks at areas that are otherwise similar except for lockdown policy -- say, Sweden and its neighbors , or else, parts of Kansas that mandated mask wearing compared with those that didn't (feel free to come back with that blogger who doesn't realize that it takes about 10 days for mask mandates to kick in), or before/after effects in countries like Germany -- then the correlation is fairly stark. But that's if you want to listen to actual scientists instead of relying on rehashed anti-vaxxer logic.

    Replies: @HA, @Mr. Anon

    , @J.Ross
    @Mr. Anon

    This, the correlation that matters is "will any murderous economy-collapsing crime-encouraging tyrants be punished in any way?" This applies equally well to vote fraud.

  • @HA
    @J.Ross

    "global health policy in 2020 has centered around NPI's (non-pharmaceutical interventions) like distancing, masks, school closures...these have been sold as a way to stop infection as though this were science....this was never true and that fact was known and knowable."

    Ah, the old COVID propter hoc fallacy takes on a new form. This so-called research is likely from the same basket of idiots who found a correlation between states applying lockdown measures and COVID deaths and then claimed lockdowns themselves were the actual cause of all those excess deaths. Yeah, right.

    On a related conspiratorial note, it turns out that states like FL and TX and LA that issue hurricane warnings and engage in elaborate hurricane rescue efforts have a lot more hurricane damage than North Dakota and Illinois. Spooky, huh? Likewise, avalanche rescues and forecasts tend to happen more in states like CO than in states that never bother with them, like say FL and HI. Let's see what Alex Jones has to say about that, shall we?

    Of course, none of that means that hurricane forecasting and rescue efforts actually cause or worsen hurricanes, and ditto for avalanches. And it's the same thing with COVID restrictions. Mixing up dense/urban/brown/obese areas (where health officials are more likely to try and stop the tsunami before the ICU units dry up) with places where not as much needs to happen (or hasn't yet) is not going to fool anyone who doesn't want to be fooled.

    Similarly, one of the resident anti-vaxxers around here once claimed -- based on a small study that was subsequently contravened by a larger one that he conveniently forgot to mention, though that earlier study caused a lot of head-scratching for several years -- that children who get the flu vaccine are actually several times more likely to suffer subsequent hospitalizations from flu. The explanation given for this anomaly (again, one that was affirmed by a larger study) was that doctors of children with asthma and other such conditions really hammered on their loony anti-vaxx parents until they relented and gave their children a flu shot more so than they would have if those children had had no risk factors.

    Again, this is all just various games with post hoc/propter hoc, though there's not much point in trying to explain this to the true believers among the just-a-flo-bros or the anti-vaxxers. They're not going to let science get in their way.

    Replies: @BenKenobi, @Mr. Anon, @Peterike

    Being a belligerent, bed wetting hysteric is no way to go through life.

    • Agree: Mr. Anon
    • Replies: @Gary in Gramercy
    @Peterike

    It's worked out fine for Joe Biden.

    , @HA
    @Peterike

    "Being a belligerent, bed wetting hysteric..."

    Said the guy who once tried to prove (see my first link above) that all the extra dead we've seen this past year would be alive and kicking were it not for government shutting down bars and restaurants and the like. Apparently, Americans are all just a bunch of teenage goth kids ready to off ourselves at the first opportunity. Now THAT is some serious fragility.

    As is taking the side of those who assured us that a coronavirus vaccine was "unobtainium" and that we'll be forced to wear masks forever and that we're about to have Bill Gates's nanochips injected into our bloodstream. And don't think I can't find actual quotes from these comment sections that say exactly that. And you think I'm the bed-wetting hysteric around here? Please.

    Replies: @Mr. Anon, @Peterike

  • @Mr. Anon
    @HA


    They’re not going to let science get in their way.
     
    "Science" is just a magic talisman to you lot. There is no correlation between lockdown severity or masking regime and pandemic outcome. Something that you continue to ignore. I can only assume because you are an obstinate idiot.

    Replies: @That Would Be Telling, @HA, @J.Ross

    There is no correlation between lockdown severity or masking regime and pandemic outcome.

    After you factor in compliance or lack thereof? LA/Southern California is guessed to have a very big problem with that, based for example on the disproportionate fraction of hospitalized and ICU patients who are Hispanic, 72% for LA County March 1st through December 26th, see pie chart on page 7. Also see how large the fraction are in the 18-49 years cohort.

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
    @That Would Be Telling


    After you factor in compliance or lack thereof?
     
    Maybe it would help if we just shot people who don't wear a mask. They at least wouldn't get COVID.

    LA/Southern California is guessed to have a very big problem with that, based for example on the disproportionate fraction of hospitalized and ICU patients who are Hispanic, 72% for LA County March 1st through December 26th, see pie chart on page 7.
     
    Are there a lot of latinos in Belgium and the UK then?

    Maybe hispanics have a problem with COVID for other reasons. Genetics perhaps. Your offered explanation assumes what it purports to prove.

    , @3g4me
    @That Would Be Telling

    @119 That Would Be Telling: Factor in Mestizos who are obese, Mestizos who have diabetes, Mestizos with Mexican sanitation standards, Mestizos who live 15 to a house, and Mestizos whose genetics predispose them to upper-respiratory complications, and you have . . . Mestizos in American hospitals, paid for by White Americans, and still NO REAL PANDEMIC except for those who still believe in bad air and f**king luv science.

    , @Mr. Anon
    @That Would Be Telling

    You call me a troll? I've been posting at Steve's site for 15 years, d**khead. You just showed up.

    My point was a genuine one. How would you enforce compliance? Shoot people who don't comply?

    F**k you, a**wipe.

  • @John Up North
    @Jack D

    Britain also has a population of people of Italian descent. Many Italians came to Britain to work in coal mines.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @BB753

    • Replies: @John Up North
    @Reg Cæsar

    There's also Tony Iommi, the guitarist from Black Sabbath.

  • I think this dreaded lurgy will suddenly disappear not long after Biden takes his oath of allegiance to whoever runs the show. There it will stay in its bottle until the next time it is needed, when it will be released to remind people just who’s in charge.

  • @Peterike
    @HA

    Being a belligerent, bed wetting hysteric is no way to go through life.

    Replies: @Gary in Gramercy, @HA

    It’s worked out fine for Joe Biden.

  • @BenKenobi
    @Jack D


    Après eux, le déluge.
     
    Après le déluge, nous.

    I’m not worried.

    Replies: @Jack D, @Mr. Anon

    Signed,

    Alfred E. Newman

  • @That Would Be Telling
    @Mr. Anon


    There is no correlation between lockdown severity or masking regime and pandemic outcome.
     
    After you factor in compliance or lack thereof? LA/Southern California is guessed to have a very big problem with that, based for example on the disproportionate fraction of hospitalized and ICU patients who are Hispanic, 72% for LA County March 1st through December 26th, see pie chart on page 7. Also see how large the fraction are in the 18-49 years cohort.

    Replies: @Mr. Anon, @3g4me, @Mr. Anon

    After you factor in compliance or lack thereof?

    Maybe it would help if we just shot people who don’t wear a mask. They at least wouldn’t get COVID.

    LA/Southern California is guessed to have a very big problem with that, based for example on the disproportionate fraction of hospitalized and ICU patients who are Hispanic, 72% for LA County March 1st through December 26th, see pie chart on page 7.

    Are there a lot of latinos in Belgium and the UK then?

    Maybe hispanics have a problem with COVID for other reasons. Genetics perhaps. Your offered explanation assumes what it purports to prove.

  • @BenKenobi
    @Jack D


    Après eux, le déluge.
     
    Après le déluge, nous.

    I’m not worried.

    Replies: @Jack D, @Mr. Anon

    Après le déluge, nous.

    A very good comeback to King Louis’ maxim.

  • @Jack D
    @JimB

    W. Va. was traditionally among the most backward states but I wonder if that will remain true as the rest of America diversifies - in the land of the blind the one eyed man is king.

    Replies: @Svevlad, @Desiderius, @fredyetagain aka superhonky

    Well, as a son of the Mountains all I can tell you is that when everyone is headed the wrong direction backward is exactly the right way to be.

    • Agree: Hibernian
  • @Reg Cæsar
    @John Up North


    Britain also has a population of people of Italian descent. Many Italians came to Britain to work in coal mines.
     
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lena_Zavaroni
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victor_Spinetti
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dario_Franchitti
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Junior_Campbell#Early_life
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francis_Rossi

    Not all miners' spawn-- the Rossis hawked ice cream.

    https://www.rossiicecream.com


    https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/content/v1/5bf686385417fc9e06708091/1546604912946-6QTNQGWR31ZS4JLBSO9N/ke17ZwdGBToddI8pDm48kCB8C84Z5VFfa43m9D6CrUNZw-zPPgdn4jUwVcJE1ZvWQUxwkmyExglNqGp0IvTJZUJFbgE-7XRK3dMEBRBhUpyZ11CvGwa4pz_DSfiEVXwhXKLoPJIzLdwMvnQl13zpc2B8qTeB_wazQBK_l0jwA7A/Rossi+Ice+Cream.png

    Replies: @John Up North

    There’s also Tony Iommi, the guitarist from Black Sabbath.

  • @International Jew
    According to an online calculator, I'm number 31 millionth in line, in California. I was going to be #40 million but I have a smart lawyer.

    Replies: @AnotherDad, @Desiderius

    I’m immune suppressed so I suppose should be in the head of the line.

    I’m in no hurry but will take it when the time comes given current information.

  • @Reg Cæsar
    @Hibernian


    One of my Dad’s friends was a priest from Wheeling WV named Niehaus, but I don’t think WV is all that German.
     
    West Virginia "Germans" are generally Scots-Irish with a colonial Palatine male line. I did my WV-native brother-in-law's genealogy, and several (modified) Palatine surnames of his neighbors turned up as distant relatives. But all these people are Scots-Irish with a dollop of kraut for flavor.

    Elvis's Presleys (not his male line) were originally Presslars. Dale Earnhardt was overwhelmingly scores Irish, and Dale Jr more so, despite the (half-Anglicized) surname. Kevin Costner and Patsy Cline may have similar stories.

    What West Virginia has is Italians, e.g., Mary Lou Retton, and Joe Manchin (once Mancini). Dean Martin was born just outside the state in Steubenville.

    Did you know about West Virginia’s deep Italian heritage?

    West Virginia’s Little Italy Communities

    e-WV: Italians

    Replies: @Jack D, @Desiderius, @Reg Cæsar

    We’re full-blooded German on Dad’s side from around Kassel ca. 1876 and French/Anglo (likely Borderer) on mother’s side. They met at Marshall before my dad (college grad and father – I was a newborn – whose dad was an engineer at DuPont) was shipped out to Nam.

  • @Reg Cæsar
    @Hibernian


    One of my Dad’s friends was a priest from Wheeling WV named Niehaus, but I don’t think WV is all that German.
     
    West Virginia "Germans" are generally Scots-Irish with a colonial Palatine male line. I did my WV-native brother-in-law's genealogy, and several (modified) Palatine surnames of his neighbors turned up as distant relatives. But all these people are Scots-Irish with a dollop of kraut for flavor.

    Elvis's Presleys (not his male line) were originally Presslars. Dale Earnhardt was overwhelmingly scores Irish, and Dale Jr more so, despite the (half-Anglicized) surname. Kevin Costner and Patsy Cline may have similar stories.

    What West Virginia has is Italians, e.g., Mary Lou Retton, and Joe Manchin (once Mancini). Dean Martin was born just outside the state in Steubenville.

    Did you know about West Virginia’s deep Italian heritage?

    West Virginia’s Little Italy Communities

    e-WV: Italians

    Replies: @Jack D, @Desiderius, @Reg Cæsar

    That should read “overwhelmingly Scots-Irish”. Besos’s autocorrupt slipped one past me.

    And this clown has $200,000,000,000? Well, the Mrs bought a Kindle, so half a billionth of that is on us. Nostra culpa!

  • @Mr. Anon
    @HA


    They’re not going to let science get in their way.
     
    "Science" is just a magic talisman to you lot. There is no correlation between lockdown severity or masking regime and pandemic outcome. Something that you continue to ignore. I can only assume because you are an obstinate idiot.

    Replies: @That Would Be Telling, @HA, @J.Ross

    “There is no correlation between lockdown severity or masking regime and pandemic outcome. “

    Certainly not if you’re going to mix up dense urban areas with lots of slum-dwelling obese people along with states right near the Canadian border. Zero correlation, you say, in your link-free assertions? Yeah, big surprise there.

    But when one looks at areas that are otherwise similar except for lockdown policy — say, Sweden and its neighbors , or else, parts of Kansas that mandated mask wearing compared with those that didn’t (feel free to come back with that blogger who doesn’t realize that it takes about 10 days for mask mandates to kick in), or before/after effects in countries like Germany — then the correlation is fairly stark. But that’s if you want to listen to actual scientists instead of relying on rehashed anti-vaxxer logic.

    • LOL: 3g4me
    • Replies: @HA
    @HA

    For some reason, he link to the German study didn't go through:

    https://voxeu.org/article/unmasked-effect-face-masks-spread-covid-19

    , @Mr. Anon
    @HA


    Certainly not if you’re going to mix up dense urban areas with lots of slum-dwelling obese people along with states right near the Canadian border. Zero correlation, you say, in your link-free assertions? Yeah, big surprise there.
     
    I'm talking about European countries, nitwit.

    But when one looks at areas that are otherwise similar except for lockdown policy — say, Sweden and its neighbors , or else, parts of Kansas that mandated mask wearing compared with those that didn’t (feel free to come back with that blogger who doesn’t realize that it takes about 10 days for mask mandates to kick in)
     
    You're still pushing that horseshit based on truncated graphs?

    You want to live in a cave? Go live in a cave. Nobody is stopping you. A lot of us have no need of advice from quaking hysterics like you.

    Replies: @3g4me, @HA

  • @Peterike
    @HA

    Being a belligerent, bed wetting hysteric is no way to go through life.

    Replies: @Gary in Gramercy, @HA

    “Being a belligerent, bed wetting hysteric…”

    Said the guy who once tried to prove (see my first link above) that all the extra dead we’ve seen this past year would be alive and kicking were it not for government shutting down bars and restaurants and the like. Apparently, Americans are all just a bunch of teenage goth kids ready to off ourselves at the first opportunity. Now THAT is some serious fragility.

    As is taking the side of those who assured us that a coronavirus vaccine was “unobtainium” and that we’ll be forced to wear masks forever and that we’re about to have Bill Gates’s nanochips injected into our bloodstream. And don’t think I can’t find actual quotes from these comment sections that say exactly that. And you think I’m the bed-wetting hysteric around here? Please.

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
    @HA


    As is taking the side of those who assured us that a coronavirus vaccine was “unobtainium” and that we’ll be forced to wear masks forever and that we’re about to have Bill Gates’s nanochips injected into our bloodstream.
     
    Gates has funded the development of tattoo vaccine IDs. That isn't internet BS.

    And you ARE a bedwetting hysteric, you ninny.
    , @Peterike
    @HA

    “ And you think I’m the bed-wetting hysteric around here?”

    You left out “belligerent” which is your most salient trait.

    Funny you mention goths since you present the exact same mental landscape — obsessively maudlin and morbid at the same time — as a goth teenager.

  • @HA
    @Mr. Anon

    "There is no correlation between lockdown severity or masking regime and pandemic outcome. "

    Certainly not if you're going to mix up dense urban areas with lots of slum-dwelling obese people along with states right near the Canadian border. Zero correlation, you say, in your link-free assertions? Yeah, big surprise there.

    But when one looks at areas that are otherwise similar except for lockdown policy -- say, Sweden and its neighbors , or else, parts of Kansas that mandated mask wearing compared with those that didn't (feel free to come back with that blogger who doesn't realize that it takes about 10 days for mask mandates to kick in), or before/after effects in countries like Germany -- then the correlation is fairly stark. But that's if you want to listen to actual scientists instead of relying on rehashed anti-vaxxer logic.

    Replies: @HA, @Mr. Anon

    For some reason, he link to the German study didn’t go through:

    https://voxeu.org/article/unmasked-effect-face-masks-spread-covid-19

  • @Buzz Mohawk
    @Steve Sailer

    Good God, Steve. Are you a part of some conspiracy, or what?

    Is all this because you live in post-cancer fear, in your closet?

    OR IS THERE MORE TO THIS?

    Do you realize that you do not in this case represent even a pathetic fraction of real people?

    All of what I am alluding to leads to suspicion. Suspicion and doubt about you.

    Replies: @Sparkylyle92, @AKAHorace

    OR IS THERE MORE TO THIS?

    Do you realize that you do not in this case represent even a pathetic fraction of real people?

    All of what I am alluding to leads to suspicion. Suspicion and doubt about you.

    Buzz,

    You believe in a conspiracy that includes the health departments of many countries in the world including Mexico, Hungary, Belgium, North Macedonia, Slovenia, Peru, San Marino, Italy … (all of which report high death tolls from Covid) ? https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

    You would have also to include the Russians who have gone to the trouble of making a new vaccine.

    The governments that have been skeptical of Coronavirus include Bylorus, Brazil and Sweden. They don’t have much in common ideologically.

    And who do you mean by a “pathetic fraction of read people” ?

    I think that Steve Sailer has mostly got it right about Covid. But even if he was wrong is it rational to believe in a conspiracy that is so widespread ? It seems that a lot of people in the west under rated masks at first and overdid the lockdown, but this looks like a normal screwup that happens when we have to deal with a new disease. Wearing masks is a precaution that costs little even if it was a complete waste of time. Not everything is a conspiracy. Even if you are right about Covid it is more likely to be a massive fuck up, not some global plot.

    • LOL: 3g4me
    • Replies: @Buzz Mohawk
    @AKAHorace

    One who reads my comments over time understands that I am seldom completely serious. The world is a bad joke to me, and that belief is reflected in what I write. Of course Steve is not part of some conspiracy, or if he is, I don't care. I simply disagree with his whole approach to this subject.

    Over the course of this, I have wrecked whatever decent reputation I had with him and with Ron Unz. I admire and respect both of them, and I regret this. Still, I know that this is a place, provided by Mr. Unz in his wisdom, where someone like me can disagree with others and let the argument play out in perhaps a Hegelian way.

    We are in the middle of an absurdity, wherein we will continue to wear masks over half our faces for many months ahead, all because of a virus that makes the vast majority of people slightly sick or not sick at all. "Leaders" of all types have indeed used this "crisis" to put forth whatever power play they want. It doesn't require a grand, overarching consipiracy.

    It only requires a "Confederacy of Dunces," and that is what I believe it is.

  • @HA
    @Mr. Anon

    "There is no correlation between lockdown severity or masking regime and pandemic outcome. "

    Certainly not if you're going to mix up dense urban areas with lots of slum-dwelling obese people along with states right near the Canadian border. Zero correlation, you say, in your link-free assertions? Yeah, big surprise there.

    But when one looks at areas that are otherwise similar except for lockdown policy -- say, Sweden and its neighbors , or else, parts of Kansas that mandated mask wearing compared with those that didn't (feel free to come back with that blogger who doesn't realize that it takes about 10 days for mask mandates to kick in), or before/after effects in countries like Germany -- then the correlation is fairly stark. But that's if you want to listen to actual scientists instead of relying on rehashed anti-vaxxer logic.

    Replies: @HA, @Mr. Anon

    Certainly not if you’re going to mix up dense urban areas with lots of slum-dwelling obese people along with states right near the Canadian border. Zero correlation, you say, in your link-free assertions? Yeah, big surprise there.

    I’m talking about European countries, nitwit.

    But when one looks at areas that are otherwise similar except for lockdown policy — say, Sweden and its neighbors , or else, parts of Kansas that mandated mask wearing compared with those that didn’t (feel free to come back with that blogger who doesn’t realize that it takes about 10 days for mask mandates to kick in)

    You’re still pushing that horseshit based on truncated graphs?

    You want to live in a cave? Go live in a cave. Nobody is stopping you. A lot of us have no need of advice from quaking hysterics like you.

    • Replies: @3g4me
    @Mr. Anon

    @135 Mr. Anon: And a majority of Sweden's cases are among its vibrant immigrants. France won't say; neither will Germany I believe. Most of the UK's cases among its 'heroic health care professionals' are non-White immigrants. Oh dear, cultural enrichers are dying in Europe and in America. Whatever shall we do?

    , @HA
    @Mr. Anon

    "I’m talking about European countries, nitwit."

    If you choose to idiotically keep mixing Belgium with Finland, then my point about comparing dense/urban/brown areas (look up Molenbeek, for example) to places a lot like Canada still applies.

    Then again, comparing Sweden with its neighbors gets around that problem but for some reason you seem resistant to doing that.

    "Gates has funded the development of tattoo vaccine IDs. That isn’t internet BS....You want to live in a cave? Go live in a cave."

    In other words, being-forced-to-wear-mask-at-Walmart = living-in-cave. And Gates funding the development of a tattoo vaccine ID is equivalent to getting a mandatory nanobot in your Pfizer covid jab. And you still want to call me the hysterical bed-wetter around here? That makes about as much as sense as everything else you've been pushing throughout this past year.

    Replies: @Mr. Anon, @Mr. Anon

  • @HA
    @Peterike

    "Being a belligerent, bed wetting hysteric..."

    Said the guy who once tried to prove (see my first link above) that all the extra dead we've seen this past year would be alive and kicking were it not for government shutting down bars and restaurants and the like. Apparently, Americans are all just a bunch of teenage goth kids ready to off ourselves at the first opportunity. Now THAT is some serious fragility.

    As is taking the side of those who assured us that a coronavirus vaccine was "unobtainium" and that we'll be forced to wear masks forever and that we're about to have Bill Gates's nanochips injected into our bloodstream. And don't think I can't find actual quotes from these comment sections that say exactly that. And you think I'm the bed-wetting hysteric around here? Please.

    Replies: @Mr. Anon, @Peterike

    As is taking the side of those who assured us that a coronavirus vaccine was “unobtainium” and that we’ll be forced to wear masks forever and that we’re about to have Bill Gates’s nanochips injected into our bloodstream.

    Gates has funded the development of tattoo vaccine IDs. That isn’t internet BS.

    And you ARE a bedwetting hysteric, you ninny.

  • @Anon
    The West Point cheating scandal is both entertaining and depressing.

    A bunch of mostly black athlete cadets, 73 in all, cheated on a calculus test given remotely because of Covid. Calculus for black athletes? LOL.

    The athletes were allowed to play in a bowl game because the investigation is ongoing. Imagine if a white cadet had been accused of an n-word or such infraction. Would they wait for an investigation?

    The superintendent of the school is a black general who has decided that the honor code "has resulted in an inequitable application of consequences and developmental opportunities for select groups of cadets." His white minion said that the cheating wouldn't have happened if it weren't a remote learning situation ... uh, so what?

    Background: White cadets have been summarily expelled, 150 at once in 1975, 90 or so a decade or two before that. 125 at one time from the Air Force Academy.

    I know they have to find makework jobs for black "generals" or else they'd be commanding actual military units, but they can still cause trouble.

    Replies: @Buffalo Joe, @clyde, @Hibernian, @Rob

    The superintendent of the school is a black general who has decided that the honor code “has resulted in an inequitable application of consequences and developmental opportunities for select groups of cadets.” His white minion said that the cheating wouldn’t have happened if it weren’t a remote learning situation … uh, so what?

    This illustrates multiple species of bad. There are nearly uncountable ways AA damages organizations. Before I mention a few of those, I’d like to say that if any of us said that honor codes hurt blacks disproportionately, we would be cancelled for life. This is an own goal of the same caliber as Jews complaining that schools incorporating character as admission criteria was anti-Semitic,

    Some of the ways AA damages an organization:

    1) AA at even the lowest level inevitably causes AA all the way to the top. We see this with black fire fighters. (Either literally or virtuslly) no black can score well enough on the test to be a fireman, Black activist group sues. Jewish judges order first find a wider pool of blacks. Give the blacks test prep. Then rewrite the test. Then just accept some rando dumb blacks. Typically the very worst, as they are the ones who did not get other jobs over the decade the case went through the courts.

    The AA blacks are inevitably the worst performers. ‘Supervisors say every black is worthless? Only possible explanation is racism’, says a judge. Every black achieves (trying not to say ‘gets’ or ‘receives for grades etc) a lower score on the test for promotions? Merry go round of expanding the pool, test prep… finally the judge orders that some rando blacks be promoted. Rinse and repeat for every level of promotion.

    Now newspapers have been filled for decades with stories about the struggle of poor, noble blacks in this institutionally racist institution. The only solution? Pick a black to run the organization. Leading to:

    2) Blacks in charge syndrome. SomeRacial-grievance focused ‘leadership’ leads to poor management of every aspect of an organization’s makeup and function. With a few token non-whites in positions of responsibility, the organization can mostly function by rerouting actual work and responsibility around the AA AA. This is unfair to the white employees who do all the work without appropriate recognition, which hurts their resumes, or compensation, but the organization mostly fulfills it’s role. Once the termites have eaten enough of the structure, the building begins to fail.

    4) The mission of the organization turns from whatever it was they were supposed to be doing to providing for the HNiC’s family and friends. The better sort will at least try to help a wider swathe of blacks than just his homies, but inevitably, the mission falters. The commandant above has twisted the service academy’s mission to ‘win games’ and push dumb blacks into the organization. Don’t let training or HR get captured. It can kill a company in the long run. Usually longer than the time served of any one person. Average CEO stays in the job for what, like five years? No need to rock the boat. At least don’t let the BIC portion of the institution make personnel decisions. That applies to HR captured by anyone with an agenda. Feminists, blacks, gays, Indians… even an alt-rightie, I guess.

    3) The non-blacks a BIC organization hires and promotes are sub-par, as the commendant’s minion above. They are the worst toFirst, the incapable blacks are not capable of recognizing ability and do not want to hire people who are stiff competition. Secondly, most whites don’t want to work for blacks, recognizing that most blacks in management roles do not belong there. Some liberal whites just out of school get a good doggy feeling from working for a black, but that soon hits reality. This will happen to many a woke woman. The rationalizations will be wonderful.

    In a for-profit company a few things can happen, the business can sink into the muck of not very good businesses with poor employees and poor management, but hey, the dumbs gotta work somewhere. Another possibility is that someone who matters has his compensation cut, and divisions get reorganized. If the problem went to the very top, the owner’s or shareholders’ return is negatively influenced enough that the board gets rid of a bad CEO despite negative publicity. A final possibility is that the business fails, or the division gets sold, often there is just a hollow shell of a business, and not much value can be extracted.

    In a government agency, many non-profits, or especially the military, no decision-maker’s salary is on the line, and the problem festers. The military had an up or out system that kept the Peter Principle to a manageable level, I don’t know if they still do that. Even if they do, it may not be enough to counter dumbversity mandates.

    All society’s institutions have been captured. Only a matter of time before the wheels come off…

    • Thanks: HammerJack
    • Replies: @3g4me
    @Rob

    @137 Rob: The problem isn't AA, it's blacks. Incompatible subspecies should not share living spaces.

    , @Jack D
    @Rob


    This is an own goal of the same caliber as Jews complaining that schools incorporating character as admission criteria was anti-Semitic,
     
    Honor codes have objective criteria - thou shalt not lie, cheat or steal, etc. "Character" is an undefinable subjective quality that was apparently related to looking like Robert Redford. The more you looked like Robert Redford, the more "character" you had.

    Replies: @Matt Buckalew, @Hibernian

    , @Fidelios Automata
    @Rob

    African-American intelligence is a bell curve, just like white intelligence. So there IS a competent pool of blacks at the top. These are the people that AA benefits the most, the ones that don't need it. It's when you try to equalize everything -- for example, thou shalt have an exactly proportional percentage of black rocket scientists -- that everything goes to hell.

    Replies: @Jack D

  • It would be interesting (meaning I’m way too lazy to do it) to know each state’s average IQ for different age bands. America’s demographics are being changed so quickly that knowing that a state is, say, 75% white, 15 each black and Hispanic, does not mean the 13-18 year olds, 19-24, and 25-30 year olds average IQ are all .7*100 + .15*85 + .15 *90(?), At those overall percentages, 50-55 might be 90% white, 9% black, and 1% Hispanic, while 13-18’s are 60% Hispanic… I’m totally making up numbers btw.

    Without doubt any math, we know the working age population is much less white than, say, the voting age population, and the k-12 population is even worse. Not post relevant: maybe seeing how bad the problem is already might wake some people up? But maybe it would send people into despair! I mean, it’s nice to know whites will be the majority of voters until 2055, but those 40+ year old women are all out of reproduction.

    To be post-relevant, it would be interesting to see how states handled the coronavirus and vax campaign by both how big was the 65+ or 80+ percent, and did states with more non-whites (ie, lower IQ in the management-age or worker-bee age range do, relative to others. Does the average IQ of the top working age brackets matter more than the IQ of the workers? I could see this going either way. Certainly dumb senior employees and managers can easily kill a company, but if the workers are too dumb to do their jobs well enough, I don’t see how smarter executives could remedy that,

    I’m especially curious if NYC’s performance is really all that bad given their low IQ population.

    Also of interest would be how high up the rot goes in various states. What states have the dumbest upper-management age range. What percent of college grads are NAMs, and what percent of management, law…Though at the top end, the increasing percentage of Jews makes knowing the strictly ‘white” percentage less informative. Maybe rough percentages don’t matter so much now, but coming soon we will have laws or court rulings mandating that demographics be represented at the % of the relevant age range.

    How the non-white percentages work their way through the school age and working age population might matter quite a lot. Like if NCLB test scores have dropped a lot in a few years, then maybe the state is doing a terrible job at grade school, but maybe a whole lot of anchor babies hit grade school over those years. Dumb recent-college grad age range, the first real job ages, might signal a state whose economy is going to underperform soon, I have seen/heard several places (before Corona came to town) that a lack of qualified employees was constraining economic growth. Texas was mentioned.

    Anyone willing to Excel-out when decline is going to seriously start in different states?

    • Replies: @epebble
    @Rob

    A somewhat crude proxy to your analysis is to look at per capita GDP of various states.


    U.S. states and territories by GDP per capita (current dollars)
    National Global State or territory 2018 GDP
    Rank
    1 1 District of Columbia 200,277
    2 2 New York 85,746
    3 2 Massachusetts 82,480
    4 3 Delaware 77,253
    5 3 Connecticut 76,342
    6 4 California 74,205
    7 4 Washington 74,182
    8 4 Alaska 73,205
    9 4 North Dakota 72,597
    10 6 Wyoming 69,900
    11 6 New Jersey 69,378
    12 6 Maryland 68,573
    13 6 Illinois 67,268
    14 6 Minnesota 64,675
    15 6 Hawaii 64,096
    16 6 Nebraska 63,942
    17 6 Colorado 63,882
    18 6 New Hampshire 63,067
    19 6 Virginia 62,563
    — 6 United States 62,390
    20 6 Pennsylvania 61,594
    21 6 Texas 61,167
    22 8 Iowa 59,977
    23 8 South Dakota 58,624
    24 8 Rhode Island 57,852
    25 8 Wisconsin 57,720
    26 8 Ohio 57,492
    27 9 Oregon 56,956
    28 10 Kansas 56,334
    29 10 Georgia 55,832
    30 11 Utah 55,550
    31 11 Nevada 55,269
    32 11 Indiana 55,172
    33 11 North Carolina 54,441
    34 11 Tennessee 53,933
    35 11 Louisiana 53,589
    36 11 Vermont 53,523
    37 11 Michigan 53,209
    38 12 Missouri 51,699
    39 12 Oklahoma 50,613
    40 13 Florida 48,318
    41 13 Arizona 48,055
    42 13 Maine 47,969
    43 15 New Mexico 46,954
    44 16 Kentucky 46,898
    45 15 Montana 46,609
    46 16 South Carolina 45,280
    47 17 Alabama 45,219
    48 19 Idaho 43,430
    49 19 West Virginia 43,053
    50 19 Arkansas 42,454
    51 24 Mississippi 37,948
    52 — U.S. Virgin Islands 37,000[4]
    53 — Guam 35,600[5]
    54 — Puerto Rico 31,651[6]
    55 — Northern Mariana Islands 24,500[7]
    56 — American Samoa 11,200[8]

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_and_territories_by_GDP_per_capita

    The pattern seems to be East Coast (Finance, Government, Academia) > West Coast (Technology) > Mid West (Manufacturing) > South (Commodities).

    Replies: @Buzz Mohawk

  • @John Up North
    @Jack D

    Britain also has a population of people of Italian descent. Many Italians came to Britain to work in coal mines.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @BB753

    Poles too. Before WWI.

  • @U. Ranus
    @Hippopotamusdrome

    The rushed tests, the lack of standards (e.g. cycle count) and the flawed statistics wrung out of testing should have been iSteve material.

    The fact that Steve never wrote about the hilariously easy to game testing s**tshow suggests that when it comes to CoronaPanic, we're not getting "organic" iSteve content.

    Replies: @Bill Jones, @Matt Buckalew

    Lol what did you expect Ron Unz was literally the point man the deep state ran out to derail Prop 187.

    A lot of really silly people ignore this because Ron hates Israel and is clearly intimidated but by black athleticism and dick game. Ron is certified cathedral albeit one who has largely been cut loose but eager to work his way back in.

    Guys like tucker and steve aren’t actually gonna rock the boat.

    • Replies: @BB753
    @Matt Buckalew

    Tucker is mainstream. Steve is not. He was watsoned long ago. What has Steve got to lose?

  • @That Would Be Telling
    @Mr. Anon


    There is no correlation between lockdown severity or masking regime and pandemic outcome.
     
    After you factor in compliance or lack thereof? LA/Southern California is guessed to have a very big problem with that, based for example on the disproportionate fraction of hospitalized and ICU patients who are Hispanic, 72% for LA County March 1st through December 26th, see pie chart on page 7. Also see how large the fraction are in the 18-49 years cohort.

    Replies: @Mr. Anon, @3g4me, @Mr. Anon

    @119 That Would Be Telling: Factor in Mestizos who are obese, Mestizos who have diabetes, Mestizos with Mexican sanitation standards, Mestizos who live 15 to a house, and Mestizos whose genetics predispose them to upper-respiratory complications, and you have . . . Mestizos in American hospitals, paid for by White Americans, and still NO REAL PANDEMIC except for those who still believe in bad air and f**king luv science.

  • @Mr. Anon
    @HA


    Certainly not if you’re going to mix up dense urban areas with lots of slum-dwelling obese people along with states right near the Canadian border. Zero correlation, you say, in your link-free assertions? Yeah, big surprise there.
     
    I'm talking about European countries, nitwit.

    But when one looks at areas that are otherwise similar except for lockdown policy — say, Sweden and its neighbors , or else, parts of Kansas that mandated mask wearing compared with those that didn’t (feel free to come back with that blogger who doesn’t realize that it takes about 10 days for mask mandates to kick in)
     
    You're still pushing that horseshit based on truncated graphs?

    You want to live in a cave? Go live in a cave. Nobody is stopping you. A lot of us have no need of advice from quaking hysterics like you.

    Replies: @3g4me, @HA

    @135 Mr. Anon: And a majority of Sweden’s cases are among its vibrant immigrants. France won’t say; neither will Germany I believe. Most of the UK’s cases among its ‘heroic health care professionals’ are non-White immigrants. Oh dear, cultural enrichers are dying in Europe and in America. Whatever shall we do?

  • @Rob
    @Anon


    The superintendent of the school is a black general who has decided that the honor code “has resulted in an inequitable application of consequences and developmental opportunities for select groups of cadets.” His white minion said that the cheating wouldn’t have happened if it weren’t a remote learning situation … uh, so what?
     
    This illustrates multiple species of bad. There are nearly uncountable ways AA damages organizations. Before I mention a few of those, I’d like to say that if any of us said that honor codes hurt blacks disproportionately, we would be cancelled for life. This is an own goal of the same caliber as Jews complaining that schools incorporating character as admission criteria was anti-Semitic,

    Some of the ways AA damages an organization:

    1) AA at even the lowest level inevitably causes AA all the way to the top. We see this with black fire fighters. (Either literally or virtuslly) no black can score well enough on the test to be a fireman, Black activist group sues. Jewish judges order first find a wider pool of blacks. Give the blacks test prep. Then rewrite the test. Then just accept some rando dumb blacks. Typically the very worst, as they are the ones who did not get other jobs over the decade the case went through the courts.

    The AA blacks are inevitably the worst performers. ‘Supervisors say every black is worthless? Only possible explanation is racism’, says a judge. Every black achieves (trying not to say ‘gets’ or ‘receives for grades etc) a lower score on the test for promotions? Merry go round of expanding the pool, test prep... finally the judge orders that some rando blacks be promoted. Rinse and repeat for every level of promotion.

    Now newspapers have been filled for decades with stories about the struggle of poor, noble blacks in this institutionally racist institution. The only solution? Pick a black to run the organization. Leading to:

    2) Blacks in charge syndrome. SomeRacial-grievance focused ‘leadership’ leads to poor management of every aspect of an organization’s makeup and function. With a few token non-whites in positions of responsibility, the organization can mostly function by rerouting actual work and responsibility around the AA AA. This is unfair to the white employees who do all the work without appropriate recognition, which hurts their resumes, or compensation, but the organization mostly fulfills it’s role. Once the termites have eaten enough of the structure, the building begins to fail.

    4) The mission of the organization turns from whatever it was they were supposed to be doing to providing for the HNiC’s family and friends. The better sort will at least try to help a wider swathe of blacks than just his homies, but inevitably, the mission falters. The commandant above has twisted the service academy’s mission to ‘win games’ and push dumb blacks into the organization. Don’t let training or HR get captured. It can kill a company in the long run. Usually longer than the time served of any one person. Average CEO stays in the job for what, like five years? No need to rock the boat. At least don’t let the BIC portion of the institution make personnel decisions. That applies to HR captured by anyone with an agenda. Feminists, blacks, gays, Indians... even an alt-rightie, I guess.

    3) The non-blacks a BIC organization hires and promotes are sub-par, as the commendant’s minion above. They are the worst toFirst, the incapable blacks are not capable of recognizing ability and do not want to hire people who are stiff competition. Secondly, most whites don’t want to work for blacks, recognizing that most blacks in management roles do not belong there. Some liberal whites just out of school get a good doggy feeling from working for a black, but that soon hits reality. This will happen to many a woke woman. The rationalizations will be wonderful.

    In a for-profit company a few things can happen, the business can sink into the muck of not very good businesses with poor employees and poor management, but hey, the dumbs gotta work somewhere. Another possibility is that someone who matters has his compensation cut, and divisions get reorganized. If the problem went to the very top, the owner’s or shareholders’ return is negatively influenced enough that the board gets rid of a bad CEO despite negative publicity. A final possibility is that the business fails, or the division gets sold, often there is just a hollow shell of a business, and not much value can be extracted.

    In a government agency, many non-profits, or especially the military, no decision-maker’s salary is on the line, and the problem festers. The military had an up or out system that kept the Peter Principle to a manageable level, I don’t know if they still do that. Even if they do, it may not be enough to counter dumbversity mandates.

    All society’s institutions have been captured. Only a matter of time before the wheels come off...

    Replies: @3g4me, @Jack D, @Fidelios Automata

    @137 Rob: The problem isn’t AA, it’s blacks. Incompatible subspecies should not share living spaces.

  • @Rob
    @Anon


    The superintendent of the school is a black general who has decided that the honor code “has resulted in an inequitable application of consequences and developmental opportunities for select groups of cadets.” His white minion said that the cheating wouldn’t have happened if it weren’t a remote learning situation … uh, so what?
     
    This illustrates multiple species of bad. There are nearly uncountable ways AA damages organizations. Before I mention a few of those, I’d like to say that if any of us said that honor codes hurt blacks disproportionately, we would be cancelled for life. This is an own goal of the same caliber as Jews complaining that schools incorporating character as admission criteria was anti-Semitic,

    Some of the ways AA damages an organization:

    1) AA at even the lowest level inevitably causes AA all the way to the top. We see this with black fire fighters. (Either literally or virtuslly) no black can score well enough on the test to be a fireman, Black activist group sues. Jewish judges order first find a wider pool of blacks. Give the blacks test prep. Then rewrite the test. Then just accept some rando dumb blacks. Typically the very worst, as they are the ones who did not get other jobs over the decade the case went through the courts.

    The AA blacks are inevitably the worst performers. ‘Supervisors say every black is worthless? Only possible explanation is racism’, says a judge. Every black achieves (trying not to say ‘gets’ or ‘receives for grades etc) a lower score on the test for promotions? Merry go round of expanding the pool, test prep... finally the judge orders that some rando blacks be promoted. Rinse and repeat for every level of promotion.

    Now newspapers have been filled for decades with stories about the struggle of poor, noble blacks in this institutionally racist institution. The only solution? Pick a black to run the organization. Leading to:

    2) Blacks in charge syndrome. SomeRacial-grievance focused ‘leadership’ leads to poor management of every aspect of an organization’s makeup and function. With a few token non-whites in positions of responsibility, the organization can mostly function by rerouting actual work and responsibility around the AA AA. This is unfair to the white employees who do all the work without appropriate recognition, which hurts their resumes, or compensation, but the organization mostly fulfills it’s role. Once the termites have eaten enough of the structure, the building begins to fail.

    4) The mission of the organization turns from whatever it was they were supposed to be doing to providing for the HNiC’s family and friends. The better sort will at least try to help a wider swathe of blacks than just his homies, but inevitably, the mission falters. The commandant above has twisted the service academy’s mission to ‘win games’ and push dumb blacks into the organization. Don’t let training or HR get captured. It can kill a company in the long run. Usually longer than the time served of any one person. Average CEO stays in the job for what, like five years? No need to rock the boat. At least don’t let the BIC portion of the institution make personnel decisions. That applies to HR captured by anyone with an agenda. Feminists, blacks, gays, Indians... even an alt-rightie, I guess.

    3) The non-blacks a BIC organization hires and promotes are sub-par, as the commendant’s minion above. They are the worst toFirst, the incapable blacks are not capable of recognizing ability and do not want to hire people who are stiff competition. Secondly, most whites don’t want to work for blacks, recognizing that most blacks in management roles do not belong there. Some liberal whites just out of school get a good doggy feeling from working for a black, but that soon hits reality. This will happen to many a woke woman. The rationalizations will be wonderful.

    In a for-profit company a few things can happen, the business can sink into the muck of not very good businesses with poor employees and poor management, but hey, the dumbs gotta work somewhere. Another possibility is that someone who matters has his compensation cut, and divisions get reorganized. If the problem went to the very top, the owner’s or shareholders’ return is negatively influenced enough that the board gets rid of a bad CEO despite negative publicity. A final possibility is that the business fails, or the division gets sold, often there is just a hollow shell of a business, and not much value can be extracted.

    In a government agency, many non-profits, or especially the military, no decision-maker’s salary is on the line, and the problem festers. The military had an up or out system that kept the Peter Principle to a manageable level, I don’t know if they still do that. Even if they do, it may not be enough to counter dumbversity mandates.

    All society’s institutions have been captured. Only a matter of time before the wheels come off...

    Replies: @3g4me, @Jack D, @Fidelios Automata

    This is an own goal of the same caliber as Jews complaining that schools incorporating character as admission criteria was anti-Semitic,

    Honor codes have objective criteria – thou shalt not lie, cheat or steal, etc. “Character” is an undefinable subjective quality that was apparently related to looking like Robert Redford. The more you looked like Robert Redford, the more “character” you had.

    • Troll: HammerJack
    • Replies: @Matt Buckalew
    @Jack D

    And what exactly was wrong with that- admittedly I look more like Ashton Kutcher than Robert Redford but i guess I’m confused why that was a problem. Your people prioritized breeding practices that selected for underwhelming (to say the least) attractiveness. But Jewish movie producers weren’t making Kathy bates hit the casting couch so clearly looks matter.

    My mom and dad used to laugh about how when it came time to hire secretaries a lot of the same guys who were always recommending a nephew or friend of family for analyst and junior executive roles were suddenly eager to look outside the tribe when it was time to hire a secretary. So what’s the problem again?

    , @Hibernian
    @Jack D

    Semi-agree. Guilt or innocence of exam cheating could depend on an investigating officer's evaluation of witness credibility, in some cases. In others it may be obvious that this dim bulb of a cadet didn't get his perfect or near perfect score honestly. In the instance of evaluating prospective students for Harvard, Yale, etc., some of them may have been cited for being drunk and disorderly, or whatever, or it may be based on athletics, or it may be based on social connections.

  • @Rob
    It would be interesting (meaning I’m way too lazy to do it) to know each state’s average IQ for different age bands. America’s demographics are being changed so quickly that knowing that a state is, say, 75% white, 15 each black and Hispanic, does not mean the 13-18 year olds, 19-24, and 25-30 year olds average IQ are all .7*100 + .15*85 + .15 *90(?), At those overall percentages, 50-55 might be 90% white, 9% black, and 1% Hispanic, while 13-18’s are 60% Hispanic... I’m totally making up numbers btw.

    Without doubt any math, we know the working age population is much less white than, say, the voting age population, and the k-12 population is even worse. Not post relevant: maybe seeing how bad the problem is already might wake some people up? But maybe it would send people into despair! I mean, it’s nice to know whites will be the majority of voters until 2055, but those 40+ year old women are all out of reproduction.

    To be post-relevant, it would be interesting to see how states handled the coronavirus and vax campaign by both how big was the 65+ or 80+ percent, and did states with more non-whites (ie, lower IQ in the management-age or worker-bee age range do, relative to others. Does the average IQ of the top working age brackets matter more than the IQ of the workers? I could see this going either way. Certainly dumb senior employees and managers can easily kill a company, but if the workers are too dumb to do their jobs well enough, I don’t see how smarter executives could remedy that,

    I’m especially curious if NYC’s performance is really all that bad given their low IQ population.

    Also of interest would be how high up the rot goes in various states. What states have the dumbest upper-management age range. What percent of college grads are NAMs, and what percent of management, law...Though at the top end, the increasing percentage of Jews makes knowing the strictly ‘white” percentage less informative. Maybe rough percentages don’t matter so much now, but coming soon we will have laws or court rulings mandating that demographics be represented at the % of the relevant age range.

    How the non-white percentages work their way through the school age and working age population might matter quite a lot. Like if NCLB test scores have dropped a lot in a few years, then maybe the state is doing a terrible job at grade school, but maybe a whole lot of anchor babies hit grade school over those years. Dumb recent-college grad age range, the first real job ages, might signal a state whose economy is going to underperform soon, I have seen/heard several places (before Corona came to town) that a lack of qualified employees was constraining economic growth. Texas was mentioned.

    Anyone willing to Excel-out when decline is going to seriously start in different states?

    Replies: @epebble

    A somewhat crude proxy to your analysis is to look at per capita GDP of various states.

    U.S. states and territories by GDP per capita (current dollars)
    National Global State or territory 2018 GDP
    Rank
    1 1 District of Columbia 200,277
    2 2 New York 85,746
    3 2 Massachusetts 82,480
    4 3 Delaware 77,253
    5 3 Connecticut 76,342
    6 4 California 74,205
    7 4 Washington 74,182
    8 4 Alaska 73,205
    9 4 North Dakota 72,597
    10 6 Wyoming 69,900
    11 6 New Jersey 69,378
    12 6 Maryland 68,573
    13 6 Illinois 67,268
    14 6 Minnesota 64,675
    15 6 Hawaii 64,096
    16 6 Nebraska 63,942
    17 6 Colorado 63,882
    18 6 New Hampshire 63,067
    19 6 Virginia 62,563
    — 6 United States 62,390
    20 6 Pennsylvania 61,594
    21 6 Texas 61,167
    22 8 Iowa 59,977
    23 8 South Dakota 58,624
    24 8 Rhode Island 57,852
    25 8 Wisconsin 57,720
    26 8 Ohio 57,492
    27 9 Oregon 56,956
    28 10 Kansas 56,334
    29 10 Georgia 55,832
    30 11 Utah 55,550
    31 11 Nevada 55,269
    32 11 Indiana 55,172
    33 11 North Carolina 54,441
    34 11 Tennessee 53,933
    35 11 Louisiana 53,589
    36 11 Vermont 53,523
    37 11 Michigan 53,209
    38 12 Missouri 51,699
    39 12 Oklahoma 50,613
    40 13 Florida 48,318
    41 13 Arizona 48,055
    42 13 Maine 47,969
    43 15 New Mexico 46,954
    44 16 Kentucky 46,898
    45 15 Montana 46,609
    46 16 South Carolina 45,280
    47 17 Alabama 45,219
    48 19 Idaho 43,430
    49 19 West Virginia 43,053
    50 19 Arkansas 42,454
    51 24 Mississippi 37,948
    52 — U.S. Virgin Islands 37,000[4]
    53 — Guam 35,600[5]
    54 — Puerto Rico 31,651[6]
    55 — Northern Mariana Islands 24,500[7]
    56 — American Samoa 11,200[8]

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_and_territories_by_GDP_per_capita

    The pattern seems to be East Coast (Finance, Government, Academia) > West Coast (Technology) > Mid West (Manufacturing) > South (Commodities).

    • Replies: @Buzz Mohawk
    @epebble

    Yours is an interesting response to Rob's lengthy comment. Every time I see a list like this, I look at the US states where I have lived or had experience. Now, particularly, I look for the one I have lived and worked in for a quarter of a century: Connecticut.

    I see that my state ranks very high, #5.

    All I can say is: We don't produce a Goddamned thing here!

    Like a hell of a lot of other guys in this state, I basically move capital around or just hold onto it. That's the thing: holding onto it. That means lots of time to write comments here and do nothing but smoke cigars and drink bourbon.

    We produce nothing, and yet were are ranked #5 on your list. What is wrong with this picture?

  • @Mr. Anon
    @HA


    Certainly not if you’re going to mix up dense urban areas with lots of slum-dwelling obese people along with states right near the Canadian border. Zero correlation, you say, in your link-free assertions? Yeah, big surprise there.
     
    I'm talking about European countries, nitwit.

    But when one looks at areas that are otherwise similar except for lockdown policy — say, Sweden and its neighbors , or else, parts of Kansas that mandated mask wearing compared with those that didn’t (feel free to come back with that blogger who doesn’t realize that it takes about 10 days for mask mandates to kick in)
     
    You're still pushing that horseshit based on truncated graphs?

    You want to live in a cave? Go live in a cave. Nobody is stopping you. A lot of us have no need of advice from quaking hysterics like you.

    Replies: @3g4me, @HA

    “I’m talking about European countries, nitwit.”

    If you choose to idiotically keep mixing Belgium with Finland, then my point about comparing dense/urban/brown areas (look up Molenbeek, for example) to places a lot like Canada still applies.

    Then again, comparing Sweden with its neighbors gets around that problem but for some reason you seem resistant to doing that.

    “Gates has funded the development of tattoo vaccine IDs. That isn’t internet BS….You want to live in a cave? Go live in a cave.”

    In other words, being-forced-to-wear-mask-at-Walmart = living-in-cave. And Gates funding the development of a tattoo vaccine ID is equivalent to getting a mandatory nanobot in your Pfizer covid jab. And you still want to call me the hysterical bed-wetter around here? That makes about as much as sense as everything else you’ve been pushing throughout this past year.

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
    @HA


    If you choose to idiotically keep mixing Belgium with Finland, then my point about comparing dense/urban/brown areas (look up Molenbeek, for example) to places a lot like Canada still applies.
     
    Look at the Z-scores for the various countries in the EuroMOMO database:

    https://www.euromomo.eu/graphs-and-maps/

    Italy, Spain, Belgium, the UK - all had draconian lockdowns. All fared worse than any number of other countries that had less severe or no lockdowns.


    Then again, comparing Sweden with its neighbors gets around that problem but for some reason you seem resistant to doing that.
     
    There's nothing magic about Finland, idiot. What makes you think Sweden's demographics are the same as the other Scandanavian countries? At least where it counts, in the cities where case counts were highest.

    In other words, being-forced-to-wear-mask-at-Walmart = living-in-cave. And Gates funding the development of a tattoo vaccine ID is equivalent to getting a mandatory nanobot in your Pfizer covid jab.
     
    It's where it's leading. If you can't connect the dots, you're a moron. Yes, you ARE a bedwetting hysteric. And I've done even given sniveling cowards like you the time of day.
    , @Mr. Anon
    @HA

    You want to talk about Finland and Norway? Here:


    How Finland and Norway Proved Sweden’s Approach to COVID-19 Works

    Data show that the policies of Finland and Norway have been even less restrictive than Sweden's for most of the pandemic.

    https://fee.org/articles/how-finland-and-norway-proved-sweden-s-approach-to-covid-19-works/
     

    Replies: @HA

  • @AKAHorace
    @Buzz Mohawk


    OR IS THERE MORE TO THIS?

    Do you realize that you do not in this case represent even a pathetic fraction of real people?

    All of what I am alluding to leads to suspicion. Suspicion and doubt about you.
     
    Buzz,

    You believe in a conspiracy that includes the health departments of many countries in the world including Mexico, Hungary, Belgium, North Macedonia, Slovenia, Peru, San Marino, Italy ... (all of which report high death tolls from Covid) ? https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

    You would have also to include the Russians who have gone to the trouble of making a new vaccine.

    The governments that have been skeptical of Coronavirus include Bylorus, Brazil and Sweden. They don't have much in common ideologically.

    And who do you mean by a "pathetic fraction of read people" ?

    I think that Steve Sailer has mostly got it right about Covid. But even if he was wrong is it rational to believe in a conspiracy that is so widespread ? It seems that a lot of people in the west under rated masks at first and overdid the lockdown, but this looks like a normal screwup that happens when we have to deal with a new disease. Wearing masks is a precaution that costs little even if it was a complete waste of time. Not everything is a conspiracy. Even if you are right about Covid it is more likely to be a massive fuck up, not some global plot.

    Replies: @Buzz Mohawk

    One who reads my comments over time understands that I am seldom completely serious. The world is a bad joke to me, and that belief is reflected in what I write. Of course Steve is not part of some conspiracy, or if he is, I don’t care. I simply disagree with his whole approach to this subject.

    Over the course of this, I have wrecked whatever decent reputation I had with him and with Ron Unz. I admire and respect both of them, and I regret this. Still, I know that this is a place, provided by Mr. Unz in his wisdom, where someone like me can disagree with others and let the argument play out in perhaps a Hegelian way.

    We are in the middle of an absurdity, wherein we will continue to wear masks over half our faces for many months ahead, all because of a virus that makes the vast majority of people slightly sick or not sick at all. “Leaders” of all types have indeed used this “crisis” to put forth whatever power play they want. It doesn’t require a grand, overarching consipiracy.

    It only requires a “Confederacy of Dunces,” and that is what I believe it is.

  • @epebble
    @Rob

    A somewhat crude proxy to your analysis is to look at per capita GDP of various states.


    U.S. states and territories by GDP per capita (current dollars)
    National Global State or territory 2018 GDP
    Rank
    1 1 District of Columbia 200,277
    2 2 New York 85,746
    3 2 Massachusetts 82,480
    4 3 Delaware 77,253
    5 3 Connecticut 76,342
    6 4 California 74,205
    7 4 Washington 74,182
    8 4 Alaska 73,205
    9 4 North Dakota 72,597
    10 6 Wyoming 69,900
    11 6 New Jersey 69,378
    12 6 Maryland 68,573
    13 6 Illinois 67,268
    14 6 Minnesota 64,675
    15 6 Hawaii 64,096
    16 6 Nebraska 63,942
    17 6 Colorado 63,882
    18 6 New Hampshire 63,067
    19 6 Virginia 62,563
    — 6 United States 62,390
    20 6 Pennsylvania 61,594
    21 6 Texas 61,167
    22 8 Iowa 59,977
    23 8 South Dakota 58,624
    24 8 Rhode Island 57,852
    25 8 Wisconsin 57,720
    26 8 Ohio 57,492
    27 9 Oregon 56,956
    28 10 Kansas 56,334
    29 10 Georgia 55,832
    30 11 Utah 55,550
    31 11 Nevada 55,269
    32 11 Indiana 55,172
    33 11 North Carolina 54,441
    34 11 Tennessee 53,933
    35 11 Louisiana 53,589
    36 11 Vermont 53,523
    37 11 Michigan 53,209
    38 12 Missouri 51,699
    39 12 Oklahoma 50,613
    40 13 Florida 48,318
    41 13 Arizona 48,055
    42 13 Maine 47,969
    43 15 New Mexico 46,954
    44 16 Kentucky 46,898
    45 15 Montana 46,609
    46 16 South Carolina 45,280
    47 17 Alabama 45,219
    48 19 Idaho 43,430
    49 19 West Virginia 43,053
    50 19 Arkansas 42,454
    51 24 Mississippi 37,948
    52 — U.S. Virgin Islands 37,000[4]
    53 — Guam 35,600[5]
    54 — Puerto Rico 31,651[6]
    55 — Northern Mariana Islands 24,500[7]
    56 — American Samoa 11,200[8]

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_and_territories_by_GDP_per_capita

    The pattern seems to be East Coast (Finance, Government, Academia) > West Coast (Technology) > Mid West (Manufacturing) > South (Commodities).

    Replies: @Buzz Mohawk

    Yours is an interesting response to Rob’s lengthy comment. Every time I see a list like this, I look at the US states where I have lived or had experience. Now, particularly, I look for the one I have lived and worked in for a quarter of a century: Connecticut.

    I see that my state ranks very high, #5.

    All I can say is: We don’t produce a Goddamned thing here!

    Like a hell of a lot of other guys in this state, I basically move capital around or just hold onto it. That’s the thing: holding onto it. That means lots of time to write comments here and do nothing but smoke cigars and drink bourbon.

    We produce nothing, and yet were are ranked #5 on your list. What is wrong with this picture?

  • @Jack D
    @Rob


    This is an own goal of the same caliber as Jews complaining that schools incorporating character as admission criteria was anti-Semitic,
     
    Honor codes have objective criteria - thou shalt not lie, cheat or steal, etc. "Character" is an undefinable subjective quality that was apparently related to looking like Robert Redford. The more you looked like Robert Redford, the more "character" you had.

    Replies: @Matt Buckalew, @Hibernian

    And what exactly was wrong with that- admittedly I look more like Ashton Kutcher than Robert Redford but i guess I’m confused why that was a problem. Your people prioritized breeding practices that selected for underwhelming (to say the least) attractiveness. But Jewish movie producers weren’t making Kathy bates hit the casting couch so clearly looks matter.

    My mom and dad used to laugh about how when it came time to hire secretaries a lot of the same guys who were always recommending a nephew or friend of family for analyst and junior executive roles were suddenly eager to look outside the tribe when it was time to hire a secretary. So what’s the problem again?

  • I basically move capital around or just hold onto it.

    We produce nothing, and yet were are ranked #5

    You may feel and say all those things; But what matters in the end is, people pay you a lot to do that.

    The poor schmucks in Mississippi have to catch a lot of catfish (or the ones in Idaho have to grow a lot of potatoes) to equal your precious keystrokes on the Bloomberg terminal at the right instant.

  • @Mr. Anon
    @HA


    They’re not going to let science get in their way.
     
    "Science" is just a magic talisman to you lot. There is no correlation between lockdown severity or masking regime and pandemic outcome. Something that you continue to ignore. I can only assume because you are an obstinate idiot.

    Replies: @That Would Be Telling, @HA, @J.Ross

    This, the correlation that matters is “will any murderous economy-collapsing crime-encouraging tyrants be punished in any way?” This applies equally well to vote fraud.

  • @Jack D
    @JimB

    W. Va. was traditionally among the most backward states but I wonder if that will remain true as the rest of America diversifies - in the land of the blind the one eyed man is king.

    Replies: @Svevlad, @Desiderius, @fredyetagain aka superhonky

    What the hell do you mean by ‘backward’, jew? I served with some West Virginians. They were totally righteous dudes.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @fredyetagain aka superhonky

    Listen goy, there may be some righteous dudes in W. Va. but objectively the place ranks low:

    https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/west-virginia

    Its economy is ranked #50 out of the 50 states. #44 in education, #48 in health care, #50 in infrastructure, etc.

    Facts is facts.

    It's a reminder that whiteness alone is not all that it is cracked up to be. There are white people and then there are white people.

    Replies: @3g4me, @Alice in Wonderland

  • Just imagine 2021

  • @Matt Buckalew
    @U. Ranus

    Lol what did you expect Ron Unz was literally the point man the deep state ran out to derail Prop 187.


    A lot of really silly people ignore this because Ron hates Israel and is clearly intimidated but by black athleticism and dick game. Ron is certified cathedral albeit one who has largely been cut loose but eager to work his way back in.

    Guys like tucker and steve aren’t actually gonna rock the boat.

    Replies: @BB753

    Tucker is mainstream. Steve is not. He was watsoned long ago. What has Steve got to lose?

  • @JimB

    American states are lagging about an order of magnitude behind Israel, although West Virginia and South Dakota are at least respectable.
     
    What happens when poor white folks are allowed to do for themselves without a woke medical bureaucracy.

    Replies: @Jack D, @Charon

    Trouble in Paradise

    https://www.rt.com/news/511332-israel-vaccination-coronavirus-pfizer/

    Hundreds of Israelis get infected with Covid-19 after receiving Pfizer/BioNTech vaccine

    Be funny if it’s something genetic..

    • Replies: @That Would Be Telling
    @Charon


    Trouble in Paradise

    https://www.rt.com/news/511332-israel-vaccination-coronavirus-pfizer/

    Hundreds of Israelis get infected with Covid-19 after receiving Pfizer/BioNTech vaccine

    Be funny if it’s something genetic.
     
    Is it too much to ask you to read the fine article?

    Vaccines provoke an adaptive immune system response, and as you should know from previous infections you've gotten, it takes time for the body to respond to a pathogen. The article says a minimum of eight days and up to ten before the first dose starts to have an effect, which sounds right.

    You must have missed the minor detail that almost all of these vaccines, and pretty much every one you've ever gotten, requires multiple doses for full effect (Janssen is trying for a single dose version, with a two doses 57 days apart backup). The article says only 50% efficacy after the first dose after some time, which is likely a crude estimate based on serological data and not hardly enough data from the Phase III trial. Israel started its vaccination campaign on the 20th, so they're still a week from giving the first people their second dose, then it takes a week according to the article for 95% of those who got it to be protected.

    Replies: @Jack D, @Charon

  • @Charon
    @JimB

    Trouble in Paradise

    https://www.rt.com/news/511332-israel-vaccination-coronavirus-pfizer/

    Hundreds of Israelis get infected with Covid-19 after receiving Pfizer/BioNTech vaccine

    Be funny if it's something genetic..

    Replies: @That Would Be Telling

    Trouble in Paradise

    https://www.rt.com/news/511332-israel-vaccination-coronavirus-pfizer/

    Hundreds of Israelis get infected with Covid-19 after receiving Pfizer/BioNTech vaccine

    Be funny if it’s something genetic.

    Is it too much to ask you to read the fine article?

    Vaccines provoke an adaptive immune system response, and as you should know from previous infections you’ve gotten, it takes time for the body to respond to a pathogen. The article says a minimum of eight days and up to ten before the first dose starts to have an effect, which sounds right.

    You must have missed the minor detail that almost all of these vaccines, and pretty much every one you’ve ever gotten, requires multiple doses for full effect (Janssen is trying for a single dose version, with a two doses 57 days apart backup). The article says only 50% efficacy after the first dose after some time, which is likely a crude estimate based on serological data and not hardly enough data from the Phase III trial. Israel started its vaccination campaign on the 20th, so they’re still a week from giving the first people their second dose, then it takes a week according to the article for 95% of those who got it to be protected.

    • Agree: HA
    • Replies: @Jack D
    @That Would Be Telling

    Nope, people got covid AFTER getting the vaccine. Vaccine is not good. Also some people had allergic reactions and then there is that poor nurse who died on TV and whose death they are concealing. And there was some doctor somewhere who said he wouldn't take it. Nope, the vaccine is no good.

    Replies: @ben tillman

    , @Charon
    @That Would Be Telling

    Your response was also funny. Elaborate and hysterical straw man 'argument'. The only thing I said is that it would be funny. And it would be.

  • @Jack D
    @Rob


    This is an own goal of the same caliber as Jews complaining that schools incorporating character as admission criteria was anti-Semitic,
     
    Honor codes have objective criteria - thou shalt not lie, cheat or steal, etc. "Character" is an undefinable subjective quality that was apparently related to looking like Robert Redford. The more you looked like Robert Redford, the more "character" you had.

    Replies: @Matt Buckalew, @Hibernian

    Semi-agree. Guilt or innocence of exam cheating could depend on an investigating officer’s evaluation of witness credibility, in some cases. In others it may be obvious that this dim bulb of a cadet didn’t get his perfect or near perfect score honestly. In the instance of evaluating prospective students for Harvard, Yale, etc., some of them may have been cited for being drunk and disorderly, or whatever, or it may be based on athletics, or it may be based on social connections.

  • @Thoughts
    @Not Raul

    Hypochondriac leftist whites

    Covid is a cool thing to get, not a bad thing. Think of all the facebook sympathy plus you get to say to your conservative friends 'It's Real!'

    I said to someone at New Year's Yesterday...The only people who get Covid are people who believe in Covid

    Replies: @Je Suis Omar Mateen, @Jack D, @Wielgus

    The only people who get Covid are people who believe in Covid

    Pardon my French but you’re an idiot. The virus doesn’t care whether you believe in it or not. People here scoff when others say that race is a social construct but here you are saying that Covid is a social construct. Believe it or not, there is an objective reality that exists outside of your head.

    • Agree: Not Raul
  • @fredyetagain aka superhonky
    @Jack D

    What the hell do you mean by 'backward', jew? I served with some West Virginians. They were totally righteous dudes.

    Replies: @Jack D

    Listen goy, there may be some righteous dudes in W. Va. but objectively the place ranks low:

    https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/west-virginia

    Its economy is ranked #50 out of the 50 states. #44 in education, #48 in health care, #50 in infrastructure, etc.

    Facts is facts.

    It’s a reminder that whiteness alone is not all that it is cracked up to be. There are white people and then there are white people.

    • Replies: @3g4me
    @Jack D

    @158 Jack D: "It’s a reminder that whiteness alone is not all that it is cracked up to be. There are white people and then there are white people."

    And you're not one of them, Yid.

    Replies: @Jack D

    , @Alice in Wonderland
    @Jack D


    W. Va. but objectively the place ranks low:

    https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/west-virginia

    Its economy is ranked #50 out of the 50 states. #44 in education, #48 in health care, #50 in infrastructure, etc.
     
    I basically agree with your point, but I kind of question how totally objective US News is. Steve has sometimes pointed out that some use a system that gives points for things like diversity but don't adequately reduce scores for things like crime, etc. So, Chicago which is more expensive and dangerous comes out better than a place like a town in WV. So, for an average guy, WV could be a better deal than a place like Chicago. The folks at US News figure they will be living in a safe suburb of Chicago and making a top 10% income. But for a guy with a median income, perhaps WV towns are a better deal for him. I don't know if that is true, but it could be in some cases.
  • @That Would Be Telling
    @Charon


    Trouble in Paradise

    https://www.rt.com/news/511332-israel-vaccination-coronavirus-pfizer/

    Hundreds of Israelis get infected with Covid-19 after receiving Pfizer/BioNTech vaccine

    Be funny if it’s something genetic.
     
    Is it too much to ask you to read the fine article?

    Vaccines provoke an adaptive immune system response, and as you should know from previous infections you've gotten, it takes time for the body to respond to a pathogen. The article says a minimum of eight days and up to ten before the first dose starts to have an effect, which sounds right.

    You must have missed the minor detail that almost all of these vaccines, and pretty much every one you've ever gotten, requires multiple doses for full effect (Janssen is trying for a single dose version, with a two doses 57 days apart backup). The article says only 50% efficacy after the first dose after some time, which is likely a crude estimate based on serological data and not hardly enough data from the Phase III trial. Israel started its vaccination campaign on the 20th, so they're still a week from giving the first people their second dose, then it takes a week according to the article for 95% of those who got it to be protected.

    Replies: @Jack D, @Charon

    Nope, people got covid AFTER getting the vaccine. Vaccine is not good. Also some people had allergic reactions and then there is that poor nurse who died on TV and whose death they are concealing. And there was some doctor somewhere who said he wouldn’t take it. Nope, the vaccine is no good.

    • Replies: @ben tillman
    @Jack D

    You're saying a nurse died on TV in Israel? Or in the US?

  • @That Would Be Telling
    @Mr. Anon


    There is no correlation between lockdown severity or masking regime and pandemic outcome.
     
    After you factor in compliance or lack thereof? LA/Southern California is guessed to have a very big problem with that, based for example on the disproportionate fraction of hospitalized and ICU patients who are Hispanic, 72% for LA County March 1st through December 26th, see pie chart on page 7. Also see how large the fraction are in the 18-49 years cohort.

    Replies: @Mr. Anon, @3g4me, @Mr. Anon

    You call me a troll? I’ve been posting at Steve’s site for 15 years, d**khead. You just showed up.

    My point was a genuine one. How would you enforce compliance? Shoot people who don’t comply?

    F**k you, a**wipe.

  • @HA
    @Mr. Anon

    "I’m talking about European countries, nitwit."

    If you choose to idiotically keep mixing Belgium with Finland, then my point about comparing dense/urban/brown areas (look up Molenbeek, for example) to places a lot like Canada still applies.

    Then again, comparing Sweden with its neighbors gets around that problem but for some reason you seem resistant to doing that.

    "Gates has funded the development of tattoo vaccine IDs. That isn’t internet BS....You want to live in a cave? Go live in a cave."

    In other words, being-forced-to-wear-mask-at-Walmart = living-in-cave. And Gates funding the development of a tattoo vaccine ID is equivalent to getting a mandatory nanobot in your Pfizer covid jab. And you still want to call me the hysterical bed-wetter around here? That makes about as much as sense as everything else you've been pushing throughout this past year.

    Replies: @Mr. Anon, @Mr. Anon

    If you choose to idiotically keep mixing Belgium with Finland, then my point about comparing dense/urban/brown areas (look up Molenbeek, for example) to places a lot like Canada still applies.

    Look at the Z-scores for the various countries in the EuroMOMO database:

    https://www.euromomo.eu/graphs-and-maps/

    Italy, Spain, Belgium, the UK – all had draconian lockdowns. All fared worse than any number of other countries that had less severe or no lockdowns.

    Then again, comparing Sweden with its neighbors gets around that problem but for some reason you seem resistant to doing that.

    There’s nothing magic about Finland, idiot. What makes you think Sweden’s demographics are the same as the other Scandanavian countries? At least where it counts, in the cities where case counts were highest.

    In other words, being-forced-to-wear-mask-at-Walmart = living-in-cave. And Gates funding the development of a tattoo vaccine ID is equivalent to getting a mandatory nanobot in your Pfizer covid jab.

    It’s where it’s leading. If you can’t connect the dots, you’re a moron. Yes, you ARE a bedwetting hysteric. And I’ve done even given sniveling cowards like you the time of day.

  • Sorry Steve, not getting the jab, don’t trust it. I believe the Russian version would be the least dangerous, so I expect that won’t be available here.

  • @Rob
    @Anon


    The superintendent of the school is a black general who has decided that the honor code “has resulted in an inequitable application of consequences and developmental opportunities for select groups of cadets.” His white minion said that the cheating wouldn’t have happened if it weren’t a remote learning situation … uh, so what?
     
    This illustrates multiple species of bad. There are nearly uncountable ways AA damages organizations. Before I mention a few of those, I’d like to say that if any of us said that honor codes hurt blacks disproportionately, we would be cancelled for life. This is an own goal of the same caliber as Jews complaining that schools incorporating character as admission criteria was anti-Semitic,

    Some of the ways AA damages an organization:

    1) AA at even the lowest level inevitably causes AA all the way to the top. We see this with black fire fighters. (Either literally or virtuslly) no black can score well enough on the test to be a fireman, Black activist group sues. Jewish judges order first find a wider pool of blacks. Give the blacks test prep. Then rewrite the test. Then just accept some rando dumb blacks. Typically the very worst, as they are the ones who did not get other jobs over the decade the case went through the courts.

    The AA blacks are inevitably the worst performers. ‘Supervisors say every black is worthless? Only possible explanation is racism’, says a judge. Every black achieves (trying not to say ‘gets’ or ‘receives for grades etc) a lower score on the test for promotions? Merry go round of expanding the pool, test prep... finally the judge orders that some rando blacks be promoted. Rinse and repeat for every level of promotion.

    Now newspapers have been filled for decades with stories about the struggle of poor, noble blacks in this institutionally racist institution. The only solution? Pick a black to run the organization. Leading to:

    2) Blacks in charge syndrome. SomeRacial-grievance focused ‘leadership’ leads to poor management of every aspect of an organization’s makeup and function. With a few token non-whites in positions of responsibility, the organization can mostly function by rerouting actual work and responsibility around the AA AA. This is unfair to the white employees who do all the work without appropriate recognition, which hurts their resumes, or compensation, but the organization mostly fulfills it’s role. Once the termites have eaten enough of the structure, the building begins to fail.

    4) The mission of the organization turns from whatever it was they were supposed to be doing to providing for the HNiC’s family and friends. The better sort will at least try to help a wider swathe of blacks than just his homies, but inevitably, the mission falters. The commandant above has twisted the service academy’s mission to ‘win games’ and push dumb blacks into the organization. Don’t let training or HR get captured. It can kill a company in the long run. Usually longer than the time served of any one person. Average CEO stays in the job for what, like five years? No need to rock the boat. At least don’t let the BIC portion of the institution make personnel decisions. That applies to HR captured by anyone with an agenda. Feminists, blacks, gays, Indians... even an alt-rightie, I guess.

    3) The non-blacks a BIC organization hires and promotes are sub-par, as the commendant’s minion above. They are the worst toFirst, the incapable blacks are not capable of recognizing ability and do not want to hire people who are stiff competition. Secondly, most whites don’t want to work for blacks, recognizing that most blacks in management roles do not belong there. Some liberal whites just out of school get a good doggy feeling from working for a black, but that soon hits reality. This will happen to many a woke woman. The rationalizations will be wonderful.

    In a for-profit company a few things can happen, the business can sink into the muck of not very good businesses with poor employees and poor management, but hey, the dumbs gotta work somewhere. Another possibility is that someone who matters has his compensation cut, and divisions get reorganized. If the problem went to the very top, the owner’s or shareholders’ return is negatively influenced enough that the board gets rid of a bad CEO despite negative publicity. A final possibility is that the business fails, or the division gets sold, often there is just a hollow shell of a business, and not much value can be extracted.

    In a government agency, many non-profits, or especially the military, no decision-maker’s salary is on the line, and the problem festers. The military had an up or out system that kept the Peter Principle to a manageable level, I don’t know if they still do that. Even if they do, it may not be enough to counter dumbversity mandates.

    All society’s institutions have been captured. Only a matter of time before the wheels come off...

    Replies: @3g4me, @Jack D, @Fidelios Automata

    African-American intelligence is a bell curve, just like white intelligence. So there IS a competent pool of blacks at the top. These are the people that AA benefits the most, the ones that don’t need it. It’s when you try to equalize everything — for example, thou shalt have an exactly proportional percentage of black rocket scientists — that everything goes to hell.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @Fidelios Automata


    So there IS a competent pool of blacks at the top.
     
    Not many. There are something like 1,000 blacks/ yr who score above 700 on the math SAT* (vs. something like 50,000 Asians despite there being more blacks than Asians). If Harvard did admissions on a color blind basis, 1 or 2% of the class would be black instead of 15%.

    *and if you drill down, most of them are either more white than black or else are Igbos or Caribbean. There are probably more Asians at Stuyvesant who break 700 than the total # of ADOS blacks who do so in the entire US.

    Replies: @That Would Be Telling

  • @Jack D
    @fredyetagain aka superhonky

    Listen goy, there may be some righteous dudes in W. Va. but objectively the place ranks low:

    https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/west-virginia

    Its economy is ranked #50 out of the 50 states. #44 in education, #48 in health care, #50 in infrastructure, etc.

    Facts is facts.

    It's a reminder that whiteness alone is not all that it is cracked up to be. There are white people and then there are white people.

    Replies: @3g4me, @Alice in Wonderland

    @158 Jack D: “It’s a reminder that whiteness alone is not all that it is cracked up to be. There are white people and then there are white people.”

    And you’re not one of them, Yid.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @3g4me

    Whatever you do, don’t throw me into the briar patch, Massa Wolf.

    Since I'm now officially a Person of Color, I'll be going ahead of you for the vaccine and for everything really.

  • @3g4me
    @Jack D

    @158 Jack D: "It’s a reminder that whiteness alone is not all that it is cracked up to be. There are white people and then there are white people."

    And you're not one of them, Yid.

    Replies: @Jack D

    Whatever you do, don’t throw me into the briar patch, Massa Wolf.

    Since I’m now officially a Person of Color, I’ll be going ahead of you for the vaccine and for everything really.

  • @Fidelios Automata
    @Rob

    African-American intelligence is a bell curve, just like white intelligence. So there IS a competent pool of blacks at the top. These are the people that AA benefits the most, the ones that don't need it. It's when you try to equalize everything -- for example, thou shalt have an exactly proportional percentage of black rocket scientists -- that everything goes to hell.

    Replies: @Jack D

    So there IS a competent pool of blacks at the top.

    Not many. There are something like 1,000 blacks/ yr who score above 700 on the math SAT* (vs. something like 50,000 Asians despite there being more blacks than Asians). If Harvard did admissions on a color blind basis, 1 or 2% of the class would be black instead of 15%.

    *and if you drill down, most of them are either more white than black or else are Igbos or Caribbean. There are probably more Asians at Stuyvesant who break 700 than the total # of ADOS blacks who do so in the entire US.

    • Replies: @That Would Be Telling
    @Jack D

    Expanding on Jack D.'s point's, African-Americans with lots of white blood as a population are 15 IQ points lower than whites, and their standard deviation is smaller, 12 vs. 15, so they have fewer outliers in both directions. So the pool of truly smart ones is tiny, and they can pretty much write their own tickets, be they Harvard ($$$) or MIT (engineering is their calling). Sub-Saharan Negroes are a further 15 point lower, don't know about the standard deviation. When you're talking about entire populations, and suitable polices for them, these differences are very important.

    Of course, in the US the policy is to tell blacks who aren't the equal of the whites they envy that it's racism that's keeping them down, with increasingly violent and lethal consequences. This will not end well.

  • The numbers for Israel are bullshit. Israel is only inoculating Israeli citizens, not the millions of Palestinians living in the occupied territories under Israeli control. Factor that in and Israel’s numbers are a lot less impressive.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @ATBOTL

    And what about all the Gazans? How can Israel in good conscience vaccinate its own people without vaccinating all of Gaza? Now it's true that if Israeli doctors tried to enter Gaza to administer the vaccines they would be torn to shreds or held hostage, but still, how can Israel in good conscience not vaccinate the people who are sworn to destroy them? If the situation were reversed, would not the Palestinians pay to vaccinate all the Jews who remained under their control? OK, only 2 Jews would still be left alive but they'd surely pay for them.


    And what about all the people of Africa? How can Israel in good conscience vaccinate its own people without vaccinating all of Africa? If you include them, then the Israeli numbers are not at all impressive.

  • @HA
    @Mr. Anon

    "I’m talking about European countries, nitwit."

    If you choose to idiotically keep mixing Belgium with Finland, then my point about comparing dense/urban/brown areas (look up Molenbeek, for example) to places a lot like Canada still applies.

    Then again, comparing Sweden with its neighbors gets around that problem but for some reason you seem resistant to doing that.

    "Gates has funded the development of tattoo vaccine IDs. That isn’t internet BS....You want to live in a cave? Go live in a cave."

    In other words, being-forced-to-wear-mask-at-Walmart = living-in-cave. And Gates funding the development of a tattoo vaccine ID is equivalent to getting a mandatory nanobot in your Pfizer covid jab. And you still want to call me the hysterical bed-wetter around here? That makes about as much as sense as everything else you've been pushing throughout this past year.

    Replies: @Mr. Anon, @Mr. Anon

    You want to talk about Finland and Norway? Here:

    How Finland and Norway Proved Sweden’s Approach to COVID-19 Works

    Data show that the policies of Finland and Norway have been even less restrictive than Sweden’s for most of the pandemic.

    https://fee.org/articles/how-finland-and-norway-proved-sweden-s-approach-to-covid-19-works/

    • Replies: @HA
    @Mr. Anon

    "You want to talk about Finland and Norway?"

    From the article you cited:


    Critics of Sweden’s policy point out that although Sweden has experienced fewer deaths than many European nations, it has suffered more than its Nordic neighbors, Finland and Norway.
     
    Maybe you should read the stuff you link to more carefully. I already noted that areas "like Canada" with fewer packed/urban/brown neighborhoods can get by with less restrictive policies, which was precisely my point in telling you what an idiot you are to try and compare Finland and Belgium. But I've already noted you have trouble remembering your own posts, so rather than expect you to remember what I said a few comments ago, I'll just remind you.

    Regardless, to the extent that Finland was able to manage this thing better than Sweden -- however it was that they did that -- it's no skin off my nose. If Sweden had been more restrictive in the urban areas and nursing homes, and less restrictive elsewhere, it would have worked out better overall for them as well. I don't know how their "lockdown stringency score" (I'm sure there's nothing whatsoever politically motivated or vague or arbitrary in assigning a number like that, no of course not) would have been affected by that effort to do it more like the rest of Europe, but that's for you to defend since you 're the one who chose to cite this study. Always trust economists to not lie about their numbers, eh? Is that the corner you've painted yourself into? Good luck with that. I mean, I know there's lots of controversy about all those megamillions of motorcycle deaths that were wrongly attributed to COVID, but at least we have excess death numbers to get us past those labeling uncertainties. Not sure how you'd find something similar with "lockdown stringency scores" to try and make those less arbitrary, but again, when you've dug yourself as deep as you have, I guess you'll reach for just about anything.

    In any case, I'm just glad to see that you now apparently admit that Finland and Norway did it better. Good for you.

    Replies: @Mr. Anon

  • @That Would Be Telling
    @Charon


    Trouble in Paradise

    https://www.rt.com/news/511332-israel-vaccination-coronavirus-pfizer/

    Hundreds of Israelis get infected with Covid-19 after receiving Pfizer/BioNTech vaccine

    Be funny if it’s something genetic.
     
    Is it too much to ask you to read the fine article?

    Vaccines provoke an adaptive immune system response, and as you should know from previous infections you've gotten, it takes time for the body to respond to a pathogen. The article says a minimum of eight days and up to ten before the first dose starts to have an effect, which sounds right.

    You must have missed the minor detail that almost all of these vaccines, and pretty much every one you've ever gotten, requires multiple doses for full effect (Janssen is trying for a single dose version, with a two doses 57 days apart backup). The article says only 50% efficacy after the first dose after some time, which is likely a crude estimate based on serological data and not hardly enough data from the Phase III trial. Israel started its vaccination campaign on the 20th, so they're still a week from giving the first people their second dose, then it takes a week according to the article for 95% of those who got it to be protected.

    Replies: @Jack D, @Charon

    Your response was also funny. Elaborate and hysterical straw man ‘argument’. The only thing I said is that it would be funny. And it would be.

  • @ATBOTL
    The numbers for Israel are bullshit. Israel is only inoculating Israeli citizens, not the millions of Palestinians living in the occupied territories under Israeli control. Factor that in and Israel's numbers are a lot less impressive.

    Replies: @Jack D

    And what about all the Gazans? How can Israel in good conscience vaccinate its own people without vaccinating all of Gaza? Now it’s true that if Israeli doctors tried to enter Gaza to administer the vaccines they would be torn to shreds or held hostage, but still, how can Israel in good conscience not vaccinate the people who are sworn to destroy them? If the situation were reversed, would not the Palestinians pay to vaccinate all the Jews who remained under their control? OK, only 2 Jews would still be left alive but they’d surely pay for them.

    And what about all the people of Africa? How can Israel in good conscience vaccinate its own people without vaccinating all of Africa? If you include them, then the Israeli numbers are not at all impressive.

  • @HA
    @Peterike

    "Being a belligerent, bed wetting hysteric..."

    Said the guy who once tried to prove (see my first link above) that all the extra dead we've seen this past year would be alive and kicking were it not for government shutting down bars and restaurants and the like. Apparently, Americans are all just a bunch of teenage goth kids ready to off ourselves at the first opportunity. Now THAT is some serious fragility.

    As is taking the side of those who assured us that a coronavirus vaccine was "unobtainium" and that we'll be forced to wear masks forever and that we're about to have Bill Gates's nanochips injected into our bloodstream. And don't think I can't find actual quotes from these comment sections that say exactly that. And you think I'm the bed-wetting hysteric around here? Please.

    Replies: @Mr. Anon, @Peterike

    “ And you think I’m the bed-wetting hysteric around here?”

    You left out “belligerent” which is your most salient trait.

    Funny you mention goths since you present the exact same mental landscape — obsessively maudlin and morbid at the same time — as a goth teenager.

    • Agree: Mr. Anon
  • @Mr. Anon
    @HA

    You want to talk about Finland and Norway? Here:


    How Finland and Norway Proved Sweden’s Approach to COVID-19 Works

    Data show that the policies of Finland and Norway have been even less restrictive than Sweden's for most of the pandemic.

    https://fee.org/articles/how-finland-and-norway-proved-sweden-s-approach-to-covid-19-works/
     

    Replies: @HA

    “You want to talk about Finland and Norway?”

    From the article you cited:

    Critics of Sweden’s policy point out that although Sweden has experienced fewer deaths than many European nations, it has suffered more than its Nordic neighbors, Finland and Norway.

    Maybe you should read the stuff you link to more carefully. I already noted that areas “like Canada” with fewer packed/urban/brown neighborhoods can get by with less restrictive policies, which was precisely my point in telling you what an idiot you are to try and compare Finland and Belgium. But I’ve already noted you have trouble remembering your own posts, so rather than expect you to remember what I said a few comments ago, I’ll just remind you.

    Regardless, to the extent that Finland was able to manage this thing better than Sweden — however it was that they did that — it’s no skin off my nose. If Sweden had been more restrictive in the urban areas and nursing homes, and less restrictive elsewhere, it would have worked out better overall for them as well. I don’t know how their “lockdown stringency score” (I’m sure there’s nothing whatsoever politically motivated or vague or arbitrary in assigning a number like that, no of course not) would have been affected by that effort to do it more like the rest of Europe, but that’s for you to defend since you ‘re the one who chose to cite this study. Always trust economists to not lie about their numbers, eh? Is that the corner you’ve painted yourself into? Good luck with that. I mean, I know there’s lots of controversy about all those megamillions of motorcycle deaths that were wrongly attributed to COVID, but at least we have excess death numbers to get us past those labeling uncertainties. Not sure how you’d find something similar with “lockdown stringency scores” to try and make those less arbitrary, but again, when you’ve dug yourself as deep as you have, I guess you’ll reach for just about anything.

    In any case, I’m just glad to see that you now apparently admit that Finland and Norway did it better. Good for you.

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
    @HA


    Critics of Sweden’s policy point out that although Sweden has experienced fewer deaths than many European nations, it has suffered more than its Nordic neighbors, Finland and Norway.
     
    Yes, and the article also says that their "lockdown" wasn't much of a lockdown. The didn't even have mask mandates.

    I mean, I know there’s lots of controversy about all those megamillions of motorcycle deaths that were wrongly attributed to COVID, but at least we have excess death numbers to get us past those labeling uncertainties.
     
    Wrongly attributed deaths were 40% of a sample of 2,800 death certificates examined in Minnesota. Maybe it's even higher still. You take away half the attributed deaths, and this pandemic is starting to look like the Asian Flu of 1957. Even a lot of the excess deaths may be due to the lockdown regime itself - heart attacks, deaths of old people from lonliness and despair.

    None of which matters to you hysterical bed-wetters cowering in your PJs. You have your biases, and your sticking to them. It isn't worth arguing with you. You're already dead inside.

    Replies: @HA

  • @Servant of Gla'aki
    I'll bet I'm not the only one here who's getting really tired of hearing about "jabs".

    One thing American society doesn't need, is the incorporating of more crude Britishisms into our national lexicon.

    Replies: @Jonathan Mason

    Well you always have a second amendment right to call the vaccination injections shots.

    A jab, a shot, a stick, whatever. Just try not be a little prick.

  • @Jack D
    @fredyetagain aka superhonky

    Listen goy, there may be some righteous dudes in W. Va. but objectively the place ranks low:

    https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/west-virginia

    Its economy is ranked #50 out of the 50 states. #44 in education, #48 in health care, #50 in infrastructure, etc.

    Facts is facts.

    It's a reminder that whiteness alone is not all that it is cracked up to be. There are white people and then there are white people.

    Replies: @3g4me, @Alice in Wonderland

    W. Va. but objectively the place ranks low:

    https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/west-virginia

    Its economy is ranked #50 out of the 50 states. #44 in education, #48 in health care, #50 in infrastructure, etc.

    I basically agree with your point, but I kind of question how totally objective US News is. Steve has sometimes pointed out that some use a system that gives points for things like diversity but don’t adequately reduce scores for things like crime, etc. So, Chicago which is more expensive and dangerous comes out better than a place like a town in WV. So, for an average guy, WV could be a better deal than a place like Chicago. The folks at US News figure they will be living in a safe suburb of Chicago and making a top 10% income. But for a guy with a median income, perhaps WV towns are a better deal for him. I don’t know if that is true, but it could be in some cases.

  • @Jack D
    @That Would Be Telling

    Nope, people got covid AFTER getting the vaccine. Vaccine is not good. Also some people had allergic reactions and then there is that poor nurse who died on TV and whose death they are concealing. And there was some doctor somewhere who said he wouldn't take it. Nope, the vaccine is no good.

    Replies: @ben tillman

    You’re saying a nurse died on TV in Israel? Or in the US?

  • @HA
    @Mr. Anon

    "You want to talk about Finland and Norway?"

    From the article you cited:


    Critics of Sweden’s policy point out that although Sweden has experienced fewer deaths than many European nations, it has suffered more than its Nordic neighbors, Finland and Norway.
     
    Maybe you should read the stuff you link to more carefully. I already noted that areas "like Canada" with fewer packed/urban/brown neighborhoods can get by with less restrictive policies, which was precisely my point in telling you what an idiot you are to try and compare Finland and Belgium. But I've already noted you have trouble remembering your own posts, so rather than expect you to remember what I said a few comments ago, I'll just remind you.

    Regardless, to the extent that Finland was able to manage this thing better than Sweden -- however it was that they did that -- it's no skin off my nose. If Sweden had been more restrictive in the urban areas and nursing homes, and less restrictive elsewhere, it would have worked out better overall for them as well. I don't know how their "lockdown stringency score" (I'm sure there's nothing whatsoever politically motivated or vague or arbitrary in assigning a number like that, no of course not) would have been affected by that effort to do it more like the rest of Europe, but that's for you to defend since you 're the one who chose to cite this study. Always trust economists to not lie about their numbers, eh? Is that the corner you've painted yourself into? Good luck with that. I mean, I know there's lots of controversy about all those megamillions of motorcycle deaths that were wrongly attributed to COVID, but at least we have excess death numbers to get us past those labeling uncertainties. Not sure how you'd find something similar with "lockdown stringency scores" to try and make those less arbitrary, but again, when you've dug yourself as deep as you have, I guess you'll reach for just about anything.

    In any case, I'm just glad to see that you now apparently admit that Finland and Norway did it better. Good for you.

    Replies: @Mr. Anon

    Critics of Sweden’s policy point out that although Sweden has experienced fewer deaths than many European nations, it has suffered more than its Nordic neighbors, Finland and Norway.

    Yes, and the article also says that their “lockdown” wasn’t much of a lockdown. The didn’t even have mask mandates.

    I mean, I know there’s lots of controversy about all those megamillions of motorcycle deaths that were wrongly attributed to COVID, but at least we have excess death numbers to get us past those labeling uncertainties.

    Wrongly attributed deaths were 40% of a sample of 2,800 death certificates examined in Minnesota. Maybe it’s even higher still. You take away half the attributed deaths, and this pandemic is starting to look like the Asian Flu of 1957. Even a lot of the excess deaths may be due to the lockdown regime itself – heart attacks, deaths of old people from lonliness and despair.

    None of which matters to you hysterical bed-wetters cowering in your PJs. You have your biases, and your sticking to them. It isn’t worth arguing with you. You’re already dead inside.

    • Agree: 3g4me
    • Replies: @HA
    @Mr. Anon

    "Yes, and the article also says that their “lockdown” wasn’t much of a lockdown. "

    According to that totally-not-vague-and-arbitrary "lockdown severity index". No problems there whatsoever. Weird how before someone came up with this totally non-arbitrary severity index, no one there or here actually noticed that the Swedes were locking down so much harder than all their neighbors. Yeah, nothing suspicious there whatsoever.


    "Wrongly attributed deaths were 40% of a sample of 2,800 death certificates examined in Minnesota."

    If this is what you're referring to, here's what the authors of that study concluded:


    The authors noted that, in the early part of the pandemic, when diagnostic tests were in especially short supply, only about 10% to 15% of all coronavirus infections were diagnosed. " [I wonder why you chose to omit that part of their study?]... "These findings demonstrate that estimates of the death toll of COVID-19 based on excess all-cause mortality may be more reliable than those relying only on reported deaths, particularly in places that lack widespread testing," they wrote.
     
    No wonder you didn't bother actually supplying a link. So again, when considering the "wide variation" that they mention with errors swinging both ways (though curiously you only mention that one number in Minnesota), it is best to look at excess mortality rates as a more reliable estimate. OK, if that's the study you're going with, then let's use the total excess death figures, which currently stand at something substantially LARGER than the official COVID death toll numbers. Weird how that works out. But hey, if you insist, that larger number is what we'll go with.

    "You take away half the attributed deaths, and this pandemic is starting to look like the Asian Flu of 1957. "

    Oh, OK, so you're saying let's ignore all the times the errors don't work in our favor, and extrapolate one sample of 3K deaths onto the remaining 300K deaths, and after all that totally fair and totally legit massaging, only then is the pandemic is only "starting to look" like the kind of flu we haven't seen in decades.

    Uh-huh. On second thought, wake me when you have something substantive instead of one desperate leap of wishful thinking after another.

    "Even a lot of the excess deaths may be due to the lockdown regime itself – heart attacks, deaths of old people from lonliness and despair."

    Yeah, the concern shown by you and people like you for all the old people dying throughout this pandemic has really been a revelation. Really good idea of you to bring that up.

  • @Thoughts
    @Not Raul

    Hypochondriac leftist whites

    Covid is a cool thing to get, not a bad thing. Think of all the facebook sympathy plus you get to say to your conservative friends 'It's Real!'

    I said to someone at New Year's Yesterday...The only people who get Covid are people who believe in Covid

    Replies: @Je Suis Omar Mateen, @Jack D, @Wielgus

    Covid is so much more rewarding than God. God tends not to manifest Himself to those who believe in Him.

  • @Jack D
    @Fidelios Automata


    So there IS a competent pool of blacks at the top.
     
    Not many. There are something like 1,000 blacks/ yr who score above 700 on the math SAT* (vs. something like 50,000 Asians despite there being more blacks than Asians). If Harvard did admissions on a color blind basis, 1 or 2% of the class would be black instead of 15%.

    *and if you drill down, most of them are either more white than black or else are Igbos or Caribbean. There are probably more Asians at Stuyvesant who break 700 than the total # of ADOS blacks who do so in the entire US.

    Replies: @That Would Be Telling

    Expanding on Jack D.’s point’s, African-Americans with lots of white blood as a population are 15 IQ points lower than whites, and their standard deviation is smaller, 12 vs. 15, so they have fewer outliers in both directions. So the pool of truly smart ones is tiny, and they can pretty much write their own tickets, be they Harvard ($$$) or MIT (engineering is their calling). Sub-Saharan Negroes are a further 15 point lower, don’t know about the standard deviation. When you’re talking about entire populations, and suitable polices for them, these differences are very important.

    Of course, in the US the policy is to tell blacks who aren’t the equal of the whites they envy that it’s racism that’s keeping them down, with increasingly violent and lethal consequences. This will not end well.

  • @Mr. Anon
    @HA


    Critics of Sweden’s policy point out that although Sweden has experienced fewer deaths than many European nations, it has suffered more than its Nordic neighbors, Finland and Norway.
     
    Yes, and the article also says that their "lockdown" wasn't much of a lockdown. The didn't even have mask mandates.

    I mean, I know there’s lots of controversy about all those megamillions of motorcycle deaths that were wrongly attributed to COVID, but at least we have excess death numbers to get us past those labeling uncertainties.
     
    Wrongly attributed deaths were 40% of a sample of 2,800 death certificates examined in Minnesota. Maybe it's even higher still. You take away half the attributed deaths, and this pandemic is starting to look like the Asian Flu of 1957. Even a lot of the excess deaths may be due to the lockdown regime itself - heart attacks, deaths of old people from lonliness and despair.

    None of which matters to you hysterical bed-wetters cowering in your PJs. You have your biases, and your sticking to them. It isn't worth arguing with you. You're already dead inside.

    Replies: @HA

    “Yes, and the article also says that their “lockdown” wasn’t much of a lockdown. “

    According to that totally-not-vague-and-arbitrary “lockdown severity index”. No problems there whatsoever. Weird how before someone came up with this totally non-arbitrary severity index, no one there or here actually noticed that the Swedes were locking down so much harder than all their neighbors. Yeah, nothing suspicious there whatsoever.

    “Wrongly attributed deaths were 40% of a sample of 2,800 death certificates examined in Minnesota.”

    If this is what you’re referring to, here’s what the authors of that study concluded:

    The authors noted that, in the early part of the pandemic, when diagnostic tests were in especially short supply, only about 10% to 15% of all coronavirus infections were diagnosed. ” [I wonder why you chose to omit that part of their study?]… “These findings demonstrate that estimates of the death toll of COVID-19 based on excess all-cause mortality may be more reliable than those relying only on reported deaths, particularly in places that lack widespread testing,” they wrote.

    No wonder you didn’t bother actually supplying a link. So again, when considering the “wide variation” that they mention with errors swinging both ways (though curiously you only mention that one number in Minnesota), it is best to look at excess mortality rates as a more reliable estimate. OK, if that’s the study you’re going with, then let’s use the total excess death figures, which currently stand at something substantially LARGER than the official COVID death toll numbers. Weird how that works out. But hey, if you insist, that larger number is what we’ll go with.

    “You take away half the attributed deaths, and this pandemic is starting to look like the Asian Flu of 1957. “

    Oh, OK, so you’re saying let’s ignore all the times the errors don’t work in our favor, and extrapolate one sample of 3K deaths onto the remaining 300K deaths, and after all that totally fair and totally legit massaging, only then is the pandemic is only “starting to look” like the kind of flu we haven’t seen in decades.

    Uh-huh. On second thought, wake me when you have something substantive instead of one desperate leap of wishful thinking after another.

    “Even a lot of the excess deaths may be due to the lockdown regime itself – heart attacks, deaths of old people from lonliness and despair.”

    Yeah, the concern shown by you and people like you for all the old people dying throughout this pandemic has really been a revelation. Really good idea of you to bring that up.

  • If this is what you’re referring to, here’s what the authors of that study concluded:

    It isn’t.

    Go back to your crypt.

    • Replies: @HA
    @Mr. Anon

    "It isn’t."

    OK, in that case, let's recap: vague unspecified mystery links, vague unspecified mystery "lockdown severity indices", and to top it all off, crocodile tears for all those old people who mistakenly got "COVID" entered into their death certificates because "loneliness and despair" takes longer for a pathologist to scrawl with his Sharpie, and that cause-of-death box is, like, really tiny -- or something to that effect.

    If this is the best that the corona-truthers can offer us, well, that tells you all you need to know about why they didn't get more traction.

  • @Mr. Anon

    If this is what you’re referring to, here’s what the authors of that study concluded:
     
    It isn't.

    Go back to your crypt.

    Replies: @HA

    “It isn’t.”

    OK, in that case, let’s recap: vague unspecified mystery links, vague unspecified mystery “lockdown severity indices”, and to top it all off, crocodile tears for all those old people who mistakenly got “COVID” entered into their death certificates because “loneliness and despair” takes longer for a pathologist to scrawl with his Sharpie, and that cause-of-death box is, like, really tiny — or something to that effect.

    If this is the best that the corona-truthers can offer us, well, that tells you all you need to know about why they didn’t get more traction.

  • @Vine gill buin
    No wonder white girls like Nikki Haleys daughters prefer Black Men
    https://www.instagram.com/p/CHd_5gphmo1/

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Not Raul, @Thoughts, @fish, @Dan Hayes

    Who says they’re White?

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