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From my new book review in Taki’s Magazine of Wesley Yang’s fine collection of essays entitled The Souls of Yellow Folk:
My impression from hints Yang has dropped is that he has tried out numerous self-improvement regimens of the kind that attract right-wing men, such as the study of pick-up artistry (the subject of one essay in his book), weightlifting, and the wisdom of Jordan Peterson. …
A recent tweet by Yang endorsed the opening of weightlifting coach Mark Rippetoe’s increasingly famous book Starting Strength: Basic Barbell Training as “one of the great lead paragraphs in any nonfiction book”:
Physical strength is the most important thing in life…. A weak man is not as happy as that same man would be if he were strong. This reality is offensive to some people who would like the intellectual or spiritual to take precedence. It is instructive to see what happens to these very people as their squat strength goes up.
Rather like another Rippetoe fan, Nassim Nicholas Taleb, Yang appears to be moving from the center to the right over the decade of essays in his book.
Read the whole thing there.
Trainer Mark Rippetoe, writer Wesley Yang, and Jordan B. Peterson make for a perfect match, according to one obscure scribbler of trash (ok, that’s originally a self-ironic quote which just entered my mind while scribbling along here and I couldn’t resist: “I may not be much, scribbler of trash, forgotten paper scratcher (…)” from a poem by Ron Padgett – the same Ron Padgett, whose poems were used by Jim Jarmusch in the movie Paterson about a bus driver (would have been even more fitting, if the movie’s title was: Peterson – – – – full circle – – – ).
Rather like the NYT burying inconvenient facts several paragraphs into its pet idea articles, you, Mr. Sailer, seem to do something similar once in a while when the ideas you push don’t quite add up to what you claim (I am still waiting for your disavowal of your earlier claim that South Asians in America would turn out to be Republican-voting, because they are talkative or something).
You know full well that the disparity between Asian female intermarriage rate and that of Asian males in America is largely an artefact of birth status. In other words, the intermarriage rate gap between American-born Asian females and American-born Asian males narrows dramatically compared to that between foreign-born Asians.
Contrary’s Yang’s whining, American-born Asian males seem to enjoy rather high marriage rates, perhaps the highest among all races in the United States. And of course Yang’s pitiful self-image is all the more odd since American-born Korean males have the highest intermarriage rates (while your erstwhile would-be Republican Indian-American males have the lowest).
1) A large number of Indians (even American-born Indians) still practice arranged marriage.
2) I have never known Indians to be particularly conservative. They are still (iirc) probably at least 2-1 or even 3-1 Democrat. I wouldn't be shocked if Korean men in the US were more conservative than Indian men.
3) Korean men, if they want to marry, almost have to be more willing to marry outside their race, since Korean women seem more likely than Indian women to marry outside their race.Replies: @Anonymous, @stillCARealist
The Indian example is that you've got continued high immigration from India, while immigration from Korea tails off quickly.
And no question arranged marriage is a huge factor. Ugly Indian men have options. Ugly korean men? Not so great.
In terms of political affiliation, also very related to native birth.
Among Indians born in the US who came of age in the 1980s or 1990s, you do see a lot of Republicans.
Move into the next millennial generation and those drop off. Of course they drop of for everyone. *
As a percentage of voters of course Indians are a rounding error - maybe less than .5 percent. But it never surprises me how many Republican county chairman are some crazy Indian dude, usually way out in the provinces.
* Ro Khanna is a good example -- a Democrat. But his father- in-law is a big republican donor in Ohio. A lot of other examples.
It seems that white girls PREFER Men of Color increasingly.
This is why we NEED demographic change. With a white majority white men act badly and others feel the pain.
Immigrants and people of color vote their interests. That's why it doesn't matter Black, Indian or Asian men are socially conservative. They may have conservative values but they vote for more affirmative action, more immigration and for anti-white politicians. Its about interests, not values.Replies: @Wilkey
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interracial_marriage_in_the_United_States
Park MacDougald is an interesting character. He’s managed to place reasonably sympathetic pieces about guys like Yang, Steve Sailer, and Jordan Peterson in New York Magazine.
Said it before, and I’ll say it again: As an Asian person myself, there is nothing Western Asians have to complain about other than sexual frustration.
And yes, I have to hock the book I wrote solving this one problem:
Anyhow, I think Steve's piece is about Eastern Asians, so let's try to stay on topic.Replies: @notanon
What is 'sexual frustration' about? Not hopping from bed to bed because Asian men are not popular on Tinder?
But is hopping from bed to bed a good thing in the first place? If Asian men in the West had values, their main gripe should be that of men of other races, i.e. most women are now whores.
So, even if an Asian guy finds a mate to marry, the chances are that she a ho. Who wants to settle down with that kind of creature?
I remember when I started lighting weights back in the 1980s. It was a subject of great merriment among friends and co-workers. Different attitudes back then. I have various physical problems now, and I really miss doing squats and benches. Deadlifts not so much.
So, unless one is a pro at weights, everything in moderation.
“I was once walking down the street behind two 30ish black women when they passed an American Indian man in his 50s who still had a thick mane of dark hair falling well past his shoulder blades. The two ladies politely waited until they were out of earshot from him, and then broke into semi-joking lamentations about the good Lord’s cruel sense of humor in giving a guy hair that they’d die for.”
Once met a black girl/dot Indian couple in the UK, the only such pairing I’ve ever seen. Their daughter had fine features and that wonderful almost purple-black, straight, long hair most Indian women have. Striking girl.
Rippetoe’s ideas on weightlifting, training generally, and life even more generally, are quite worthwhile, IMHO. I wish I had been younger when I first read some of his work.
Huh? Really?
Okay… most good-thinking people do believe you can change your physique and your ideals, if you want to, just like that. But does that actually happen frequently? From my admittedly quite shallow review of Human BioDiversity, I’d have thought that one of its main tenets is that no, you (often) can’t do anything about those. Not about your height, not about your physique, and not about your ideals. (cf. JayMan’s blog posts about obesity and our lack of free will).
You can do surgery to increase your height, you can do surgery to decrease your stomach, and who knows, we may have even brain surgery in the future to change one’s personality (for what’s judged to be better, of course; we already experimented with lobotomy). But the mere fact one seeks and has the means to do those interventions might be genetically influenced.
Young women (of any race) who are thought of as ugly by men, and who do cosmetic surgery to be judged as beautiful, might be more likely to give birth to girls who will grow up to be just like their mothers pre-surgery (short of genetic modification), but who will also desire to change their appearance, and will be actually able to do so.
Quite surprised to read you of all people writing those words. As always, I might be missing something. Good article in all.
Wesley Yang apparently isn’t good at noticing things. There are some white men who find ugly Asian women attractive but there are virtually no non-Asian women who find ugly Asian men attractive. You also see this between blacks and whites, but the genders reversed. This is why you rarely see a high-quality interracial couple in America.
One of your best Steve, but with one quibble. You sir did not get to enjoy the hilarity of chemotherapy as you were one lucky bastard (as contrasted to unlucky bastards like myself). No pissing red after ABVD infusions, no puking up the food they insisted you choke down during infusions, no comical side effects like severe allergic reactions that provide a lifetime of amusement. No sir, you took the shortcut and your chemo appropriation is offensive!
Also, in the piece you linked:
Is there any empirical evidence suggesting kids are taller today than when we were young? In the 80’s I was the tallest person around and it was a noteworthy moment when I encountered somebody taller. Today it seems like I encounter someone taller (and younger, perhaps not surprisingly since we drop like flies in middle age) fairly regularly.
You know full well that the disparity between Asian female intermarriage rate and that of Asian males in America is largely an artefact of birth status. In other words, the intermarriage rate gap between American-born Asian females and American-born Asian males narrows dramatically compared to that between foreign-born Asians.
Contrary's Yang's whining, American-born Asian males seem to enjoy rather high marriage rates, perhaps the highest among all races in the United States. And of course Yang's pitiful self-image is all the more odd since American-born Korean males have the highest intermarriage rates (while your erstwhile would-be Republican Indian-American males have the lowest).Replies: @International Jew, @Wilkey, @Anonymouse, @charlie, @Tiny Duck, @Jimi, @Hapalong Cassidy, @J.Ross, @Johann Ricke, @Anon
Maybe Steve “know[s] full well” but I don’t. Could you explain?
In college I once dated a girl whose dad was an Indian doctor who came to Korea during the war and married a Korean woman. She was really cute (although she turned quite radical and dumped me).
Many years I got hit on at a bar by a young woman who told me that I looked a lot like Startsky (Paul Michael Glaser) so that connection did work out for me a little.
Also what happened to Judge Reinhold's career? He was great. I really loved him in Ruthless People (an underrated movie). His career seemed to tank after that.
But when you look at American-born Asians, the out-marriage ratio between men and women is 32% vs. 43%. There is a disparity, yes, but nothing like the more than 1-to-3 among the foreign-born.
Also per Wiki:Reading between the lines, this means that - since Indian-Americans have very high endogamy, the rate of East Asian-American men marrying white women is likely considerably higher than 36%. For men reputed to do poorly with white women, that is rather high a rate of intermarriage.
But that doesn't make for a sensational Steve Sailer article ("Asian guys can't get girls! Should marry black women!"), does it?Replies: @Anonymous
You know full well that the disparity between Asian female intermarriage rate and that of Asian males in America is largely an artefact of birth status. In other words, the intermarriage rate gap between American-born Asian females and American-born Asian males narrows dramatically compared to that between foreign-born Asians.
Contrary's Yang's whining, American-born Asian males seem to enjoy rather high marriage rates, perhaps the highest among all races in the United States. And of course Yang's pitiful self-image is all the more odd since American-born Korean males have the highest intermarriage rates (while your erstwhile would-be Republican Indian-American males have the lowest).Replies: @International Jew, @Wilkey, @Anonymouse, @charlie, @Tiny Duck, @Jimi, @Hapalong Cassidy, @J.Ross, @Johann Ricke, @Anon
“And of course Yang’s pitiful self-image is all the more odd since American-born Korean males have the highest intermarriage rates (while your erstwhile would-be Republican Indian-American males have the lowest).”
1) A large number of Indians (even American-born Indians) still practice arranged marriage.
2) I have never known Indians to be particularly conservative. They are still (iirc) probably at least 2-1 or even 3-1 Democrat. I wouldn’t be shocked if Korean men in the US were more conservative than Indian men.
3) Korean men, if they want to marry, almost have to be more willing to marry outside their race, since Korean women seem more likely than Indian women to marry outside their race.
I know two Indian guys, born there, who became American citizens and then went back to the old country to find a wife (arranged by the parents of course). It looks to me like there's a large sex-imbalance in the US for Indians. Also, they had assimilated to the point that they couldn't even meet any available Indian women.
I wonder if the gap between foreign and local Asian men vs women is that a local woman cannot handle a guy who has trouble speaking her language where a local guy will not have as much of a problem or could even see it as an advantage if his woman can barely speak his language.
You know full well that the disparity between Asian female intermarriage rate and that of Asian males in America is largely an artefact of birth status. In other words, the intermarriage rate gap between American-born Asian females and American-born Asian males narrows dramatically compared to that between foreign-born Asians.
Contrary's Yang's whining, American-born Asian males seem to enjoy rather high marriage rates, perhaps the highest among all races in the United States. And of course Yang's pitiful self-image is all the more odd since American-born Korean males have the highest intermarriage rates (while your erstwhile would-be Republican Indian-American males have the lowest).Replies: @International Jew, @Wilkey, @Anonymouse, @charlie, @Tiny Duck, @Jimi, @Hapalong Cassidy, @J.Ross, @Johann Ricke, @Anon
>American-born Korean males have the highest intermarriage rates
I suspect there’s a missing statistic here – the intermarriage rate of American-born Korean females, perhaps as high as or higher than that ABK males. Our Korean American-born friend is married to a white guy. Once invited to a birthday party for their little boy, I discovered that our friends were members of a sizeable bunch of white guys married to ABK women. There were about 5 such couples at the birthday party, all the women petite suggestive of a sexual preference criterion. I find it hard to imagine the contrary, ABK guys married to full-sized American women.
Asians Support Nation-Wrecking Mass Immigration At Rates Much Higher Than Other Racial Cohorts
Every group but Asians and the foreign-born want immigration reduced.
Steve Sailer:
https://www.unz.com/isteve/gss-everybody-except-asians-and-foreign-born-want-fewer-immigrants/
1) A large number of Indians (even American-born Indians) still practice arranged marriage.
2) I have never known Indians to be particularly conservative. They are still (iirc) probably at least 2-1 or even 3-1 Democrat. I wouldn't be shocked if Korean men in the US were more conservative than Indian men.
3) Korean men, if they want to marry, almost have to be more willing to marry outside their race, since Korean women seem more likely than Indian women to marry outside their race.Replies: @Anonymous, @stillCARealist
IMO, a big part of the problem is the selectivity of Korean males combined with cultural demands and demanding Korean mothers which doesn’t exist, for the most part, for Korean daughters (except for a unspoken rule: don’t marry a black). In American middle-class/upper-middle class white families it’s the inverse. The demands seem to be put on the daughter and their selection is seriously scrutinized.
I once tried to set up a Korean-American friend with a beautiful and Christian Vietnamese young woman. He told me, “No, my patents would disown me.” He then went on to tell me about how these other Asian groups are viewed as inferior and not acceptable for marriage. And also about how Koreans (especially Korean mothers) view certain Korean surnames as inferior. Exasperated I said that surely Japanese can’t be viewed as inferior, why not find a nice Japanese girl? To which he responded, “No they are not viewed as inferior. They are just our mortal enemy and I could never bring one home to meet my parents.”
Also, I've met a fair number of Korean-Japanese couples, all but one from Korea or Japan (ie not Americans). The first generation that came to the continental US after the immigration laws changed in the mid-1960s was mostly that postwar generation, raised on a diet of rabid anti-Japanese propaganda to prop up the murderous Syngman Rhee regime we installed after the war. After Park Chunghee and the other members of the Manchurian Imperial Japanese Army clique seized power, normalised relations with Japan, invited back the former King (himself a former Lt. Gen. with the IJA), etc., I think the temperature around that sort of thing dropped considerably. Japanese culture was still publicly suppressed, but it wasn't like Hamas frothing about the Jews anymore.
Birth status = where you were born. e.g., U.S.A. or Shit-holia.
Have gym workouts been shown to be good for one’s health? Believable statistics would be hard to acquire but perhaps not impossible. I’m not speaking of ordinary physical activity such as walking, screwing, dancing, etc.
You know full well that the disparity between Asian female intermarriage rate and that of Asian males in America is largely an artefact of birth status. In other words, the intermarriage rate gap between American-born Asian females and American-born Asian males narrows dramatically compared to that between foreign-born Asians.
Contrary's Yang's whining, American-born Asian males seem to enjoy rather high marriage rates, perhaps the highest among all races in the United States. And of course Yang's pitiful self-image is all the more odd since American-born Korean males have the highest intermarriage rates (while your erstwhile would-be Republican Indian-American males have the lowest).Replies: @International Jew, @Wilkey, @Anonymouse, @charlie, @Tiny Duck, @Jimi, @Hapalong Cassidy, @J.Ross, @Johann Ricke, @Anon
You are quite right you’ve got to control for native birth when looking at intermarriage rates.
The Indian example is that you’ve got continued high immigration from India, while immigration from Korea tails off quickly.
And no question arranged marriage is a huge factor. Ugly Indian men have options. Ugly korean men? Not so great.
In terms of political affiliation, also very related to native birth.
Among Indians born in the US who came of age in the 1980s or 1990s, you do see a lot of Republicans.
Move into the next millennial generation and those drop off. Of course they drop of for everyone. *
As a percentage of voters of course Indians are a rounding error – maybe less than .5 percent. But it never surprises me how many Republican county chairman are some crazy Indian dude, usually way out in the provinces.
* Ro Khanna is a good example — a Democrat. But his father- in-law is a big republican donor in Ohio. A lot of other examples.
Slightly related racial resentment item:
There’s a long NYT article from yesterday about Dr. Tamara O’Neal, a black emergency room physician in Chicago who was shot and killed by her former fiancé. The guy also killed a cop and another woman.
Anyway, the article says that when Tamara O’Neal was an undergrad at Purdue, a professor told her she would not be able to become a doctor, and that she was driven to prove him wrong.
Like La Griffe du Lion wrote after describing affirmative action in medical school admissions, if you get a black doctor in the emergency room, pray that he or she got into med school through the front door. My guess is that Dr. Tamara O’Neal would not have had a chance of getting into med school without affirmative action.
I always found Nora Jones to be quite attractive.
In college I once dated a girl whose dad was an Indian doctor who came to Korea during the war and married a Korean woman. She was really cute (although she turned quite radical and dumped me).
Many years I got hit on at a bar by a young woman who told me that I looked a lot like Startsky (Paul Michael Glaser) so that connection did work out for me a little.
Also what happened to Judge Reinhold’s career? He was great. I really loved him in Ruthless People (an underrated movie). His career seemed to tank after that.
And yes, I have to hock the book I wrote solving this one problem:
https://www.amazon.com/Orientals-Guide-Sex-Strength-Satisfaction/dp/1979633517/Replies: @Autochthon, @Anon
Western Asians are sexually frustrated, eh? I hadn’t known it, but it explains why Western Asia produces so many crazed, murderous terrorists. Here I’d figured having arranged marriages to one’s cousins and otherwise strictly segregating the sexes would have ensured most men got a woman, but I suppose it’s offset by the polygamy by the rich men.
Anyhow, I think Steve’s piece is about Eastern Asians, so let’s try to stay on topic.
You know full well that the disparity between Asian female intermarriage rate and that of Asian males in America is largely an artefact of birth status. In other words, the intermarriage rate gap between American-born Asian females and American-born Asian males narrows dramatically compared to that between foreign-born Asians.
Contrary's Yang's whining, American-born Asian males seem to enjoy rather high marriage rates, perhaps the highest among all races in the United States. And of course Yang's pitiful self-image is all the more odd since American-born Korean males have the highest intermarriage rates (while your erstwhile would-be Republican Indian-American males have the lowest).Replies: @International Jew, @Wilkey, @Anonymouse, @charlie, @Tiny Duck, @Jimi, @Hapalong Cassidy, @J.Ross, @Johann Ricke, @Anon
I’ve noticed a lot of white girls in relationships with Asian Men.
It seems that white girls PREFER Men of Color increasingly.
This is why we NEED demographic change. With a white majority white men act badly and others feel the pain.
Steve waits for the next installment of Yang’s collected essays, while I wait for the Steve Sailer Story.
You know full well that the disparity between Asian female intermarriage rate and that of Asian males in America is largely an artefact of birth status. In other words, the intermarriage rate gap between American-born Asian females and American-born Asian males narrows dramatically compared to that between foreign-born Asians.
Contrary's Yang's whining, American-born Asian males seem to enjoy rather high marriage rates, perhaps the highest among all races in the United States. And of course Yang's pitiful self-image is all the more odd since American-born Korean males have the highest intermarriage rates (while your erstwhile would-be Republican Indian-American males have the lowest).Replies: @International Jew, @Wilkey, @Anonymouse, @charlie, @Tiny Duck, @Jimi, @Hapalong Cassidy, @J.Ross, @Johann Ricke, @Anon
White working class folks vote their values that’s why they vote GOP.
Immigrants and people of color vote their interests. That’s why it doesn’t matter Black, Indian or Asian men are socially conservative. They may have conservative values but they vote for more affirmative action, more immigration and for anti-white politicians. Its about interests, not values.
I believe the male “Yellow Folk” will master sex appeal. They’re already working on it:
You know full well that the disparity between Asian female intermarriage rate and that of Asian males in America is largely an artefact of birth status. In other words, the intermarriage rate gap between American-born Asian females and American-born Asian males narrows dramatically compared to that between foreign-born Asians.
Contrary's Yang's whining, American-born Asian males seem to enjoy rather high marriage rates, perhaps the highest among all races in the United States. And of course Yang's pitiful self-image is all the more odd since American-born Korean males have the highest intermarriage rates (while your erstwhile would-be Republican Indian-American males have the lowest).Replies: @International Jew, @Wilkey, @Anonymouse, @charlie, @Tiny Duck, @Jimi, @Hapalong Cassidy, @J.Ross, @Johann Ricke, @Anon
I think that as a percentage of their respective populations, Asian men are slightly more likely to out-marry than Black men are. Of course, that doesn’t account for Black men being more likely than other races to engage in extra-marital sex or conceive out of wedlock.
1) A large number of Indians (even American-born Indians) still practice arranged marriage.
2) I have never known Indians to be particularly conservative. They are still (iirc) probably at least 2-1 or even 3-1 Democrat. I wouldn't be shocked if Korean men in the US were more conservative than Indian men.
3) Korean men, if they want to marry, almost have to be more willing to marry outside their race, since Korean women seem more likely than Indian women to marry outside their race.Replies: @Anonymous, @stillCARealist
The problem with becoming too assimilated is that you lose the connections you need to find a good spouse. The college groups have become radically, explicitly segregated just to work on this problem. Korean Christian Fellowship? Yeah, I want a Korean, Christian husband with a college degree in engineering. My guess is that this has become even more intensely focused in the age of social media.
I know two Indian guys, born there, who became American citizens and then went back to the old country to find a wife (arranged by the parents of course). It looks to me like there’s a large sex-imbalance in the US for Indians. Also, they had assimilated to the point that they couldn’t even meet any available Indian women.
Good piece. I liked Wesley Yang’s Peterson piece and some of his other stuff, but couldn’t make it all the way through his interview with Park MacDougald.
Beyond the lifting, Rippetoe fills a cultural niche which overlaps somewhat with Taleb’s: the gruff, short-tempered dad whose approval is sought by younger men. My favorite paragraph by him is this explanation of athletic HBD in Practical Programming:
Re short men and dating, Heariste offered interesting advice: approach tall women. Short women will want to have taller children, but tall women may want to hedge, in the event they have daughters.
I have to admit I never thought about it before, but when you mention it, the image of an Asian man married to a Black woman seems somehow preposterous. Like the premise for a sitcom. It’s hard to articulate why this is so. Almost any other combination seems entirely plausible.
Maybe we should eventually concede to all the Prog talk about how “whiteness” is merely a social construct and remodel our definitions. Under the new regime, “whiteness” would be a continuum defined by education, wealth and civilized manners.
Whites would be only about the third “whitest” group, behind Jews and East Asians. Legacy Whites would therefore get affirmative action preferences and could tell these other groups to check their “whiter privilege.”
Asian men need to man up and marry lonely black spinsters. For the good of humanity. I wish them all happy and fruitful marriages. Yes, they can!
Bitter Asian Man. BAM(boo). LOL
I’m always a little cautious about whether these sorts of “racial/ethnic authors” actually provide much insight into the real views of their communities…
After all, they have to get published, which is a major filter. Another very big filter is whether anyone ever hears about their book, e.g. whether it’s covered in the MSM let alone given a big review in the NYT. Since both those filters are very sharply liberal/multiculturalist, books that don’t fit with that perspective probably don’t get through. So maybe Yang’s opinions say something about most East Asians and maybe they don’t.
I remember reading a very solid analysis of Hispanic politics in CA published by a candid academic scholar 25 or so years ago. Among other things, he pointed out that the local Hispanic elected officials in East LA were pretty cautious about actually campaigning in their own community because they were all liberal Democrats and so many older local Hispanics were very hostile to their views on abortion.
In fact, back then the powerful West LA Berman-Waxman political machine often used its wealthy donors to “parachute in” various Hispanic clients into sleepy East LA districts, though after a decade or two, the local Hispanics finally got organized enough to control their own elected officials.
I haven’t read Yang’s book and don’t know anything about him, but it wouldn’t surprise me if he were just an Asian version of a “cuckservative” that all the rightwingers are always complaining about.
Are Asians supposed to take the SJW line that they are oppressed because they are pigeonholed as a "model minority," and that in the interests of solidarity with fellow PofC they support anti-Asian quotas? (As a handful of Asian Quisling recruited by the Left have done in the Harvard case).
Or do you reject SJW culture and say that lumping Asians with Blacks and Hispanics is absurd?
I get the impression that East Asians in America mainly have no interest at all in identity politics. They can join either side depending on who wins. And in the meantime, they're like the "This is Library" guy -- just too busy getting on with life to worry about it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gNLhT8PgRZwReplies: @notanon
Height Supremacism might be the next NPC craze.
Fight Height Speech. Stop Height Crimes.
THE GRADUATE as its hero movie.
Fight Height Speech. Stop Height Crimes.
THE GRADUATE as its hero movie.Replies: @Anonymous, @J.Ross
Never gonna happen, because height prejudice is something that only negatively affects men, not women.
That is a rather strange statement. The kind of physical strength which is developed through a rigorous program of exercise and personal training requires dedication and planning, i.e. it requires repeated acts of the will and the intellect. The essence of the thing is spiritual, not merely “natural.” It would not have been realized without deliberation and effort. In general, you can say this about all of man’s characteristic activities. The acquisition of wealth, knowledge, skills, and taste is rooted in the ability to perceive higher possibilities and to pursue them through all difficulties. This is what is meant by the ancient description of man as “the rational animal.” It is also the basis of the Pauline axiom that “faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen,” every word of which must be read as a precise philosophical term. Both statements are witnessing to that which is intrinsic in the being of man. To put the matter in the bluntest possible way, man, through his deliberate activity, physicalizes spiritual realities; he gives the imitable aspects of God a spatio-temporal existence. It is always disappointing (and far too commonly human) that one who has actually achieved some measure of success should forget this, and turn from the Creator to the creature by denigrating the spiritual basis of his own accomplishment, thereby serving ends that are beneath his own nature. This is when (and only when) the higher possibilities—the wealth and power and beauty—become “injustice” and the pursuit of them demonic and idolatrous. For man cannot retreat from his spiritual nature and exist in the purely animal realm. His choice is to imitate good or to imitate evil, to become an angel or a demon.
That is the perspective which must set everything else in context. Neither vanity nor false modesty nor exaggeration should govern the appreciation of one’s own or another’s good qualities. For instance, it was no doubt a discernible overestimation of the value of Hollywood celebrity which prompted Steve to write this:
I respectfully disagree. To use George Costanza’s line, “I say this with an umblemished record of staunch heterosexuality,” but I think you’re a very handsome man. You have a nice face, a pleasant face. Judge Reinhold, on the other hand, looks like a cocky idiot, and you have aged much better than he has. You are far better looking than you give yourself credit for, but rather less perceptive than your audience seems to believe; which you yourself may be subconsciously acknowledging when you followed up with:
…is precisely what has been your spiel for as long as long as anyone can remember. Why? There is no need to confine yourself to that particular sub-basement of social commentary, unless it is serving the needs of some unfortunately acquired complex. I get the feeling that you think of yourself as unsuccessful, whereas you view Judge Reinhold as definitionally successful because he has been a Hollywood actor. But on the particular theory of genetic determinism to which you subscribe (that is to say, HBD), success, especially the charismatic social success that Hollywood epitomizes, must ultimately be the result of superior genetics, one manifestation of which is increased physical beauty. Therefore, by a fallacy of affirming the consequent, you have simply accepted the fact, by definition and in the absence of evidence, that Judge Reinhold is more attractive than you are. The reason you subscribe to HBD is because the accomplishments of the legacy European population (i.e. the White race) far outweigh those of other ethnic groups, which goes without saying. But such observations are difficult to articulate within the current political climate, which has weaponized racial categories and socioeconomic distinctions to the detriment of White people. The mere act of pointing out the disparity is enough to get one into trouble. By attributing the differences to genetics, the intention is to place them in some sort of safe, clinical, “scientific” realm which is supposedly beyond the reach of political criticism; then one can claim that he was simply “noticing” rather than insisting and asserting. The scientific varnish provides a cloak of impersonality, but it requires that the genetic explanation of success must be exclusively maintained at all costs, just as it requires the belief that Judge Reinhold is more attractive than Steve Sailer.
In other words, you are doing exactly the same thing that you have noted Black women doing when they demand more media representation, albeit you are taking a more conflicted, less ambitious route through the same (il)logical landscape. That ought to reveal something about the nature of this peculiar belief system, especially about the self-estimation of those who hold it. It isn’t the kind of thing that bespeaks a clear conscience, an untroubled spirit, a confident embrace of one’s own condition.
Frankly, HBD is for losers. But did anyone ever tell you, Steve, that you are much better than this? I don’t want it to be the case that you stay stuck in this rut because you never believed anything more was possible for you. I would exhort you, if it is within my power, to cut the Gordian knot, drop the HBD, undo the complex, ditch the sportsball and the Hollywood worship, and become the man you were meant to be. I wish you all the best.
Does he address the current craze for Westernized appearance among Asian women? I live around a lot of ABC yuppies and, from behind, you’d think the women were all from County Cork or something. I started to really notice the hair-dying around 2015 or so. Now more Asian women (that I see) sport dyed hair than their natural color. Curled hair and obviously unnatural makeup colors have become huge recently as well.
Being 6’4” is so hard? Cry me a river!
Also, in the piece you linked:Is there any empirical evidence suggesting kids are taller today than when we were young? In the 80’s I was the tallest person around and it was a noteworthy moment when I encountered somebody taller. Today it seems like I encounter someone taller (and younger, perhaps not surprisingly since we drop like flies in middle age) fairly regularly.Replies: @MikeatMikedotMike, @Coemgen
I don’t have the citation, but I remember reading that the average height of Japanese men increased 3-4 inches over 2 generations after American occupation introduced beef into their diets. Take it for what it’s worth.
You know full well that the disparity between Asian female intermarriage rate and that of Asian males in America is largely an artefact of birth status. In other words, the intermarriage rate gap between American-born Asian females and American-born Asian males narrows dramatically compared to that between foreign-born Asians.
Contrary's Yang's whining, American-born Asian males seem to enjoy rather high marriage rates, perhaps the highest among all races in the United States. And of course Yang's pitiful self-image is all the more odd since American-born Korean males have the highest intermarriage rates (while your erstwhile would-be Republican Indian-American males have the lowest).Replies: @International Jew, @Wilkey, @Anonymouse, @charlie, @Tiny Duck, @Jimi, @Hapalong Cassidy, @J.Ross, @Johann Ricke, @Anon
If the ridiculously accomplished Jonny Kim writes a book about being an Asian-American who doesn’t feel sorry for himself, can he expect the same market as “a meditation on race”?
Slacker.
Just better if everyone stayed in their own countries. Mass importation of Asians, Muslims, Hindus and Latinos just brings their bizarrro world behavior to the USA. I can live without it. If I’m curious, I can visit their nations but I don’t want them here.
Fight Height Speech. Stop Height Crimes.
THE GRADUATE as its hero movie.Replies: @Anonymous, @J.Ross
There is nobody crueler or more superficial than the SJWs, so they will not see short men as anything but ridiculous.
What is an ugly Asian woman? What is an ugly Asian man? It’s all in the eye of the beholder. I’ve heard many times that Asian men say that White men who go for Asian women usually pick the ugly ones. But this is only because Asian men and White men are attracted to different things about women. As for the Asian man complaining that none of his women are attracted to him, this is not because he’s Asian, it’s because of the way he carries himself and the image he projects to women. If a man of any type exudes confidence without being arrogant, has a sense of humor and dresses well for the type of women he wants to meet and is reasonably successful, he will get women. Most Asian men I come across are either extremely quiet and have no personality or act and dress as gay as a french horn. This gayness is particularly pronounced in young Korean men. No women are attracted to either type.
Whenever I see a black person with a white, I think it’s entirely preposterous. How could a white person find a black person attractive with their skin color and that hair? I have been trying to figure that one out for a long time!
The following limerick is intended as a satire of the bigoted, racist views of a Southern redneck from Alabama. Don’t whim me, bro!
Buck teeth and thick Coke-bottle glasses
Don’t augur success making passes.
Skin the color of mustard
Just don’t cut the custard
With Caucasian t—ies and a–es.
Wesley Yang’s being piled on by Asian feminists.
The gender wars have come to the Asian community — and I blame the white community for not putting out their own fire before it spread.
The opposite of love isn’t hate, it’s indifference. He’s being piled on alright, whichever way he wants it.
Koreans, even a lot of American born Koreans, are actually unbelievably frank about their views of other races. Mostly in Korean, but sometimes even in English. “Unspoken” doesn’t really ring true to me here . . .
Also, I’ve met a fair number of Korean-Japanese couples, all but one from Korea or Japan (ie not Americans). The first generation that came to the continental US after the immigration laws changed in the mid-1960s was mostly that postwar generation, raised on a diet of rabid anti-Japanese propaganda to prop up the murderous Syngman Rhee regime we installed after the war. After Park Chunghee and the other members of the Manchurian Imperial Japanese Army clique seized power, normalised relations with Japan, invited back the former King (himself a former Lt. Gen. with the IJA), etc., I think the temperature around that sort of thing dropped considerably. Japanese culture was still publicly suppressed, but it wasn’t like Hamas frothing about the Jews anymore.
Women always try to marry up. For Asian women the hierarchy of men is as follows:
1) WASP male
2) Jewish male (though many Asians don’t know the difference)
3) White-Asian mixed race male (many foreign born Asian females put this group #1)
4) Asian male born in US
5) Asian male born abroad but grew up in US, no accent
6) Asian male born abroad, with accent
7) Hispanic male
8) Black male
The last 2 groups could easily vault over #6 if they are college educated professionals.
#6 is the group that has no chance, they almost always have to go back to their native country to find a wife, and over there, they’re top dog.
#4-6 has its internal hierarchy, with Japanese, Korean, Chinese at the top(in that order), followed by Vietnamese, Filipino, Thai and other SEA groups.
Indians and East Asians usually don’t mix, unless they are from multicultural Asian countries like Singapore or Malaysia. South Asian groups have their own hierarchy, which is very complicated due to religion and caste system.
Of course, money trumps all. A multimillionaire or billionaire will always have his pick of women, regardless of his ethnicity.
Young men in South Korea and Japan are definitely increasingly effeminate these days, at least judging by their pop stars. I often wonder if they are gay, or if women in those countries actually find that attractive.
Immigrants and people of color vote their interests. That's why it doesn't matter Black, Indian or Asian men are socially conservative. They may have conservative values but they vote for more affirmative action, more immigration and for anti-white politicians. Its about interests, not values.Replies: @Wilkey
Part of the essence if conservatism is to conserve *your* culture. Why would Indians, Hispanics, etc. want to conserve the dominant European-American culture, except for the rare few who are self-aware enough to know it’s what attracted them or their parents to the US?
There’s a long NYT article from yesterday about Dr. Tamara O’Neal, a black emergency room physician in Chicago who was shot and killed by her former fiancé. The guy also killed a cop and another woman.
Anyway, the article says that when Tamara O’Neal was an undergrad at Purdue, a professor told her she would not be able to become a doctor, and that she was driven to prove him wrong.
Like La Griffe du Lion wrote after describing affirmative action in medical school admissions, if you get a black doctor in the emergency room, pray that he or she got into med school through the front door. My guess is that Dr. Tamara O’Neal would not have had a chance of getting into med school without affirmative action.Replies: @Jack D, @Dave Pinsen
You are going to have to pray REAL hard because almost all black professional school attendees get in based on affirmative action. Some of them might have gotten into lesser med schools than the one that they attended but the ones that go to lower tier med schools would not have gotten in at all. Ask the doc where he/she went and if it is not in the top 50 then pray extra hard.
Could also be based on subjective measures related to ethic affinity (Indian lady likes getting treated by Indian doc).
https://twitter.com/dpinsen/status/1064957820414627840?s=21
Not disagreeing, though I do know someone who is black and legitimately brilliant. Without revealing too much, think MD/PhD from the best schools in the country, esteemed prof/physician at the best medschool and technical university, astounding scientific productivity.
Most well known personal trainers/lifting gurus tend to be conservative. Rippetoe is openly so, but others drop enough hints in their articles that it’s quite obvious. Given that it’s usually guys who 1) like to work hard and lift heavy things; 2) have enough testosterone to develop muscular physiques; and 3) have the bone structure to carry a lot of muscle, it’s hardly surprising. The hormonal makeup that enables these makes one naturally conservative, aside from any environmental effects of lifting heavy weights. I’ve known skinny guys who are conservative, but have never met a brawny, muscular dude who was a liberal.
There’s a long NYT article from yesterday about Dr. Tamara O’Neal, a black emergency room physician in Chicago who was shot and killed by her former fiancé. The guy also killed a cop and another woman.
Anyway, the article says that when Tamara O’Neal was an undergrad at Purdue, a professor told her she would not be able to become a doctor, and that she was driven to prove him wrong.
Like La Griffe du Lion wrote after describing affirmative action in medical school admissions, if you get a black doctor in the emergency room, pray that he or she got into med school through the front door. My guess is that Dr. Tamara O’Neal would not have had a chance of getting into med school without affirmative action.Replies: @Jack D, @Dave Pinsen
Wasn’t there a Jet Li movie where his love interest was a black woman?
I don't recall ever seeing that particular combination in real life. Vice claims there is an "Asian Men Black Women" meet-up group somewhere. But even if this is a real thing, the fact they need an internet meet-up to find one is a pretty good indication that they are a rare breed in the wild. https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/wd739w/inside-the-asian-men-black-women-online-dating-scene-456
The gender wars have come to the Asian community -- and I blame the white community for not putting out their own fire before it spread.Replies: @Dave Pinsen, @Desiderius
https://twitter.com/hpmacd/status/1051259419898593280?s=21
I wondered in this Twitter exchange whether AA might account for the alleged superiority of foreign docs.
Could also be based on subjective measures related to ethic affinity (Indian lady likes getting treated by Indian doc).
mongoloids vary a lot from north to south in height, robust-ness, and skin color.
mongolian men should have the easiest time with the ladies. they’re huge and fair.
btw, has steve mentioned that “asian americans” outlive asians in asia?
“asian” americans are even longer lived than japs.
believe it or not.
It’s super-hard to get into any American med school. There’s no long tail of mediocre institutions as in the law school business. There are exactly 141 American institutions where you can get an MD now. That’s it. (Thank the AMA.)
My nephew (a recent grad from UC Berkeley) could tell you about white Berkeley kids with near-straight-As and 90th %tile MCATs who applied to a dozen med schools last year and didn’t get into a single one.
The exception is med schools within the “historical black college” world, such as Meharry or Howard. But in the absence of Affirmative Action, the number of true African Americans (i.e. think Michelle, not Barak) at the rest of the 141 American med schools might be about four or five in a good year.
I had numerous white classmates at UC Berkeley who all went to med school around 1990. I wonder how many of their own adult children now just went on to get various other grad degrees instead of seeking out the then highly-coveted career of "Doctor".
You know full well that the disparity between Asian female intermarriage rate and that of Asian males in America is largely an artefact of birth status. In other words, the intermarriage rate gap between American-born Asian females and American-born Asian males narrows dramatically compared to that between foreign-born Asians.
Contrary's Yang's whining, American-born Asian males seem to enjoy rather high marriage rates, perhaps the highest among all races in the United States. And of course Yang's pitiful self-image is all the more odd since American-born Korean males have the highest intermarriage rates (while your erstwhile would-be Republican Indian-American males have the lowest).Replies: @International Jew, @Wilkey, @Anonymouse, @charlie, @Tiny Duck, @Jimi, @Hapalong Cassidy, @J.Ross, @Johann Ricke, @Anon
There’s a lot of interesting data on interracial pairings (including cohabitation) in Wikipedia:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interracial_marriage_in_the_United_States
After all, they have to get published, which is a major filter. Another very big filter is whether anyone ever hears about their book, e.g. whether it's covered in the MSM let alone given a big review in the NYT. Since both those filters are very sharply liberal/multiculturalist, books that don't fit with that perspective probably don't get through. So maybe Yang's opinions say something about most East Asians and maybe they don't.
I remember reading a very solid analysis of Hispanic politics in CA published by a candid academic scholar 25 or so years ago. Among other things, he pointed out that the local Hispanic elected officials in East LA were pretty cautious about actually campaigning in their own community because they were all liberal Democrats and so many older local Hispanics were very hostile to their views on abortion.
In fact, back then the powerful West LA Berman-Waxman political machine often used its wealthy donors to "parachute in" various Hispanic clients into sleepy East LA districts, though after a decade or two, the local Hispanics finally got organized enough to control their own elected officials.
I haven't read Yang's book and don't know anything about him, but it wouldn't surprise me if he were just an Asian version of a "cuckservative" that all the rightwingers are always complaining about.Replies: @Hypnotoad666, @syonredux
What’s the default perspective that an edgy Asian “race writer” would be trying to either rebel against, or pander to, anyway?
Are Asians supposed to take the SJW line that they are oppressed because they are pigeonholed as a “model minority,” and that in the interests of solidarity with fellow PofC they support anti-Asian quotas? (As a handful of Asian Quisling recruited by the Left have done in the Harvard case).
Or do you reject SJW culture and say that lumping Asians with Blacks and Hispanics is absurd?
I get the impression that East Asians in America mainly have no interest at all in identity politics. They can join either side depending on who wins. And in the meantime, they’re like the “This is Library” guy — just too busy getting on with life to worry about it.
if white people had stuck up for their civilization i imagine they would have been relatively chilled about it (as they'd do okay in a functioning meritocracy) but we didn't so they're gonna be pushed into sharpening their elbows to get a place at the feast.
I always find it preposterous when some racist white man pretends he never found a non-white woman attractive.
Maybe. But of course that would be fiction.
I don’t recall ever seeing that particular combination in real life. Vice claims there is an “Asian Men Black Women” meet-up group somewhere. But even if this is a real thing, the fact they need an internet meet-up to find one is a pretty good indication that they are a rare breed in the wild. https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/wd739w/inside-the-asian-men-black-women-online-dating-scene-456
The quality of your work has declined, Steve. You’re just referencing your previous writings. There’s no meat here.
So you’ve never met any professional athletes like LeBron James, Tony Gonzalez, or any of the many others kneeling around NFL sidelines?
Then there is this from the always reliable Salon:
Too big, too small, whatever it is . . . it’s always Whitey’s fault.
Question for you: What’s better than recipe for octopus? Answer for you: eight recipes for octopus
A friend of my parents when I was young was a (Caribbean) black MD/PhD.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/bbcthree/article/50bf662a-c48c-4201-b2de-c575b14f6645
Shouldn’t that be “interrogating their romantic choices”?
Vee have vays of making you attracted to us, RACIST.
Rippetoe is libertarian/conservative, but one of his coaches in New York, Simma Park, is a Korean SJW.
Steve always refers to his previous work when it fits. Nothing wrong with that. I’ve started doing the same. Doesn’t lower the quality at all.
What man is focused on straight hair only. Esperanza Spalding has a “natural” and she is mui bueno:
I like Asian women but I’d pick Esperanza over the great majority of Asians—straight hair not-with-standing.
Also, in the piece you linked:Is there any empirical evidence suggesting kids are taller today than when we were young? In the 80’s I was the tallest person around and it was a noteworthy moment when I encountered somebody taller. Today it seems like I encounter someone taller (and younger, perhaps not surprisingly since we drop like flies in middle age) fairly regularly.Replies: @MikeatMikedotMike, @Coemgen
You shrink as you get older. I’m in my mid-fifties and I’ve lost about 1/2″. Of course, some of that loss may be hair…
It’s also a pretty reliable outcome that mixed-race women (mulatto, Amerasian, Black-Asian (Blasian?), etc.) are generally more attractive than the average woman from either of the two separate races.
Goldilocks and the three races.
The gender wars have come to the Asian community -- and I blame the white community for not putting out their own fire before it spread.Replies: @Dave Pinsen, @Desiderius
Meh.
The opposite of love isn’t hate, it’s indifference. He’s being piled on alright, whichever way he wants it.
The ideal is substantially above the mean on that one. Perhaps the geometric mean.
That is the perspective which must set everything else in context. Neither vanity nor false modesty nor exaggeration should govern the appreciation of one's own or another's good qualities. For instance, it was no doubt a discernible overestimation of the value of Hollywood celebrity which prompted Steve to write this:I respectfully disagree. To use George Costanza's line, "I say this with an umblemished record of staunch heterosexuality," but I think you're a very handsome man. You have a nice face, a pleasant face. Judge Reinhold, on the other hand, looks like a cocky idiot, and you have aged much better than he has. You are far better looking than you give yourself credit for, but rather less perceptive than your audience seems to believe; which you yourself may be subconsciously acknowledging when you followed up with:...is precisely what has been your spiel for as long as long as anyone can remember. Why? There is no need to confine yourself to that particular sub-basement of social commentary, unless it is serving the needs of some unfortunately acquired complex. I get the feeling that you think of yourself as unsuccessful, whereas you view Judge Reinhold as definitionally successful because he has been a Hollywood actor. But on the particular theory of genetic determinism to which you subscribe (that is to say, HBD), success, especially the charismatic social success that Hollywood epitomizes, must ultimately be the result of superior genetics, one manifestation of which is increased physical beauty. Therefore, by a fallacy of affirming the consequent, you have simply accepted the fact, by definition and in the absence of evidence, that Judge Reinhold is more attractive than you are. The reason you subscribe to HBD is because the accomplishments of the legacy European population (i.e. the White race) far outweigh those of other ethnic groups, which goes without saying. But such observations are difficult to articulate within the current political climate, which has weaponized racial categories and socioeconomic distinctions to the detriment of White people. The mere act of pointing out the disparity is enough to get one into trouble. By attributing the differences to genetics, the intention is to place them in some sort of safe, clinical, "scientific" realm which is supposedly beyond the reach of political criticism; then one can claim that he was simply "noticing" rather than insisting and asserting. The scientific varnish provides a cloak of impersonality, but it requires that the genetic explanation of success must be exclusively maintained at all costs, just as it requires the belief that Judge Reinhold is more attractive than Steve Sailer.
In other words, you are doing exactly the same thing that you have noted Black women doing when they demand more media representation, albeit you are taking a more conflicted, less ambitious route through the same (il)logical landscape. That ought to reveal something about the nature of this peculiar belief system, especially about the self-estimation of those who hold it. It isn't the kind of thing that bespeaks a clear conscience, an untroubled spirit, a confident embrace of one's own condition.
Frankly, HBD is for losers. But did anyone ever tell you, Steve, that you are much better than this? I don't want it to be the case that you stay stuck in this rut because you never believed anything more was possible for you. I would exhort you, if it is within my power, to cut the Gordian knot, drop the HBD, undo the complex, ditch the sportsball and the Hollywood worship, and become the man you were meant to be. I wish you all the best.Replies: @Dave Pinsen
It’s not if you think about it. Strength is the difference between being able to physically take care of yourself or loved ones and needing someone else to take care of you. Rippetoe often gets testimonials from people writing about how thanks to Starting Strength they were able to pick up their elderly parent after a fall without hurting themselves, stuff like that.
Yes. Very simple. Per 2010 Pew:
Among foreign-born the out-marriage disparity between Asian men and women are over 1-to-3. Hence the recurring Steve Sailer theme that Asian men can’t get girls outside their race.
But when you look at American-born Asians, the out-marriage ratio between men and women is 32% vs. 43%. There is a disparity, yes, but nothing like the more than 1-to-3 among the foreign-born.
Also per Wiki:
Reading between the lines, this means that – since Indian-Americans have very high endogamy, the rate of East Asian-American men marrying white women is likely considerably higher than 36%. For men reputed to do poorly with white women, that is rather high a rate of intermarriage.
But that doesn’t make for a sensational Steve Sailer article (“Asian guys can’t get girls! Should marry black women!”), does it?
i bought that stupid audio series from (((tony robbins)))
I’m not sure that’s true. As Steve pointed out once, we’re biased into thinking that because the mixed-race celebrities we see tend to be very attractive, but the non-attractive ones usually don’t become celebrities.
But when you look at American-born Asians, the out-marriage ratio between men and women is 32% vs. 43%. There is a disparity, yes, but nothing like the more than 1-to-3 among the foreign-born.
Also per Wiki:Reading between the lines, this means that - since Indian-Americans have very high endogamy, the rate of East Asian-American men marrying white women is likely considerably higher than 36%. For men reputed to do poorly with white women, that is rather high a rate of intermarriage.
But that doesn't make for a sensational Steve Sailer article ("Asian guys can't get girls! Should marry black women!"), does it?Replies: @Anonymous
In my experience here in the Boston/Cambridge are, the WF in AMWF pairings tends to be a cognitive elite. I have one in my (Irish) family. She went to Cornell and Harvard and married an AM and has 3 kids.
My wife also fits your description - Ivy League, STEM doctorate, etc. She also has a socially elite background and comes from a traditional Christian family. Christian groups at elite universities are often white athletes from the Midwest/South + East Asians.
Black men can conceive? The things you learn here!
Public libraries.
Well, I guess they can’t all be Twinkie.
The younger ones though... ugh. I think the peak Korean was c. 1985-1995. You know, rooftop Koreans.
Either way, doesn’t matter. Rather like Japanese-Americans, Koreans in America are disappearing. In the past 10 years, the Korean population in America shrank, probably because of assimilation (intermarriage mostly) and reverse-migration while Chinese and Indian populations - the two Asian groups with the lowest assimilation indices in the Manhattan Institute studies - have grown substantially (quite dramatically in the case of latter).
And what does Mrs. Sailer say? It is the only important question here.
It is testosterone. It moves you to the right.
the ones pushing the wagon get tired of paying for all those they see in the wagon
The soles of yellow folk:
In one of his Crowder appearances Rippetoe describes a very elderly female client who had never done strength training before but was able to avoid going to a nursing home thanks to his help.
https://youtu.be/3585w9FmOGsReplies: @Intelligent Dasein
Yeah, what the hell? Are you trying to lose strangers who could not be bothered to pick a name?
Gus.
No, but Koreans are some of the most Christian and right-wing among Asians in America… especially the older ones.
The younger ones though… ugh. I think the peak Korean was c. 1985-1995. You know, rooftop Koreans.
Either way, doesn’t matter. Rather like Japanese-Americans, Koreans in America are disappearing. In the past 10 years, the Korean population in America shrank, probably because of assimilation (intermarriage mostly) and reverse-migration while Chinese and Indian populations – the two Asian groups with the lowest assimilation indices in the Manhattan Institute studies – have grown substantially (quite dramatically in the case of latter).
Besides birth status, another factor that skews WMAF vs AMWF stats is age cohort. A lot of older WMAF pairings inovolve military brides, which shows up in the latest Pew research into intermarriage. Among younger Asians, male or female, marriages with whites are much more assortative.
My wife also fits your description – Ivy League, STEM doctorate, etc. She also has a socially elite background and comes from a traditional Christian family. Christian groups at elite universities are often white athletes from the Midwest/South + East Asians.
Are you sure some of that height loss isn’t posture?
Mrs. Sailer, like Woody Allen’s God, doesn’t want to get involved.
https://youtu.be/3585w9FmOGsReplies: @Intelligent Dasein
Did either one of you two blistering dipshits bother reading past the first sentence of what I wrote?
Every group but Asians and the foreign-born want immigration reduced.
Steve Sailer:https://www.unz.com/isteve/gss-everybody-except-asians-and-foreign-born-want-fewer-immigrants/Replies: @M. Hartley
Good find. Interesting.
When applying to college, the smart kids are extremely competitive and ambitious to get into a top school. When applying to med school, they’ll take whatever the heck they can get.
I had numerous white classmates at UC Berkeley who all went to med school around 1990. I wonder how many of their own adult children now just went on to get various other grad degrees instead of seeking out the then highly-coveted career of “Doctor”.
She was looking for those pesky and elusive high height alleles for her future offspring and found the perfect match in Steve Sailer. Most women can’t keep away from tall guys, no matter how ugly or nerdy or clumsy around the opposite sex (not that I’m implying Steve is any of those things). Tall guys have it so easy. Particularly with Asian women.
nah, i think its productivity that moves you to the right
the ones pushing the wagon get tired of paying for all those they see in the wagon
do yellow folks actually believe in souls?
apparently weight training boosts the production of growth hormone which repairs the body.
Anyhow, I think Steve's piece is about Eastern Asians, so let's try to stay on topic.Replies: @notanon
female infanticide
i think soy in the baby formula is making young men effeminate without actually being homosexual.
Are Asians supposed to take the SJW line that they are oppressed because they are pigeonholed as a "model minority," and that in the interests of solidarity with fellow PofC they support anti-Asian quotas? (As a handful of Asian Quisling recruited by the Left have done in the Harvard case).
Or do you reject SJW culture and say that lumping Asians with Blacks and Hispanics is absurd?
I get the impression that East Asians in America mainly have no interest at all in identity politics. They can join either side depending on who wins. And in the meantime, they're like the "This is Library" guy -- just too busy getting on with life to worry about it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gNLhT8PgRZwReplies: @notanon
they’re being pushed into joining the SJW team by the increasingly dominant and overtly anti-white dynamic – the fight over the carcass of white America has begun.
if white people had stuck up for their civilization i imagine they would have been relatively chilled about it (as they’d do okay in a functioning meritocracy) but we didn’t so they’re gonna be pushed into sharpening their elbows to get a place at the feast.
most guys like that aren’t even remotely liberal in private – they be liberal in public and they might vote liberal but only out of ethnic self-interest.
Idiot.Replies: @anon
You don’t know what you’re talking about, do you? Liberal in private? Liberal in public? What the hell does that even mean?
Idiot.
nobody wants to read your stupid website or any columns by you either
Idiot.Replies: @anon
go away
nobody wants to read your stupid website or any columns by you either
My loss of height may be due to the posture of my hair. My pompadour now is less pomp and more dour.
That Jonny Kim really needs to get up off his ass and make something of himself.
Slacker.
After all, they have to get published, which is a major filter. Another very big filter is whether anyone ever hears about their book, e.g. whether it's covered in the MSM let alone given a big review in the NYT. Since both those filters are very sharply liberal/multiculturalist, books that don't fit with that perspective probably don't get through. So maybe Yang's opinions say something about most East Asians and maybe they don't.
I remember reading a very solid analysis of Hispanic politics in CA published by a candid academic scholar 25 or so years ago. Among other things, he pointed out that the local Hispanic elected officials in East LA were pretty cautious about actually campaigning in their own community because they were all liberal Democrats and so many older local Hispanics were very hostile to their views on abortion.
In fact, back then the powerful West LA Berman-Waxman political machine often used its wealthy donors to "parachute in" various Hispanic clients into sleepy East LA districts, though after a decade or two, the local Hispanics finally got organized enough to control their own elected officials.
I haven't read Yang's book and don't know anything about him, but it wouldn't surprise me if he were just an Asian version of a "cuckservative" that all the rightwingers are always complaining about.Replies: @Hypnotoad666, @syonredux
Gosh, this takes me back, the old “Latinx are natural conservatives” rubbish…..
Whoa, language. Do you even lift, bro?
You know full well that the disparity between Asian female intermarriage rate and that of Asian males in America is largely an artefact of birth status. In other words, the intermarriage rate gap between American-born Asian females and American-born Asian males narrows dramatically compared to that between foreign-born Asians.
Contrary's Yang's whining, American-born Asian males seem to enjoy rather high marriage rates, perhaps the highest among all races in the United States. And of course Yang's pitiful self-image is all the more odd since American-born Korean males have the highest intermarriage rates (while your erstwhile would-be Republican Indian-American males have the lowest).Replies: @International Jew, @Wilkey, @Anonymouse, @charlie, @Tiny Duck, @Jimi, @Hapalong Cassidy, @J.Ross, @Johann Ricke, @Anon
You know full well that the disparity between Asian female intermarriage rate and that of Asian males in America is largely an artefact of birth status. In other words, the intermarriage rate gap between American-born Asian females and American-born Asian males narrows dramatically compared to that between foreign-born Asians.
Looking at marriage stats misses the point. US doesn’t have a Marriage Culture but loose sex culture. So, sexual value is determined in dating and clubbing, not marriage. It used to be that many people were virgins when married. Not anymore. And clearly in the dating game, Asian women have high market value while Asian men have low one. Also, one rarely sees Asian men with non-Asian women in public, but it’s not unusual to see that the majority of Asian women are with non-Asian men.
Also, it’s worth asking the quality of mates. In cases of white-asian pairing, do white men get the more attractive yellow women while Asian men get the less attractive white women?
And even if a good number of Asian males do marry non-Asian, this only takes into account MARRIED Asian men. But what about all the Asian men who are NOT married?
Also, if Sailer tends to leave out certain details, it’s due to his traditionalism in certain areas. In his article in National Review, he mentioned hair, height, and muscle but not the Dong Factor. He lacks the Vulgar Jewish thing, the Schwarz Talk. He’s a prud about the pud.
And yes, I have to hock the book I wrote solving this one problem:
https://www.amazon.com/Orientals-Guide-Sex-Strength-Satisfaction/dp/1979633517/Replies: @Autochthon, @Anon
Said it before, and I’ll say it again: As an Asian person myself, there is nothing Western Asians have to complain about other than sexual frustration.
What is ‘sexual frustration’ about? Not hopping from bed to bed because Asian men are not popular on Tinder?
But is hopping from bed to bed a good thing in the first place? If Asian men in the West had values, their main gripe should be that of men of other races, i.e. most women are now whores.
So, even if an Asian guy finds a mate to marry, the chances are that she a ho. Who wants to settle down with that kind of creature?
Weightlifting can do more harm than good. I’ve known so many in high school and college who ended up with permanent backaches, wrist injury, and etc. Then, they can’t exercise and get even fatter.
So, unless one is a pro at weights, everything in moderation.
Some of it is poorer posture, but the spine does compress minutely year after year.