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Were the police too brutal last summer and fall to the mostly peaceful protesters who were merely engaging in undocumented shopping, arson for equity, and violence against brutality? Or were they not brutal enough?

Black politicians in New York and Chicago are having a hard time getting their story straight on this burning question of the day.

From the New York Times:

N.Y. Attorney General Sues N.Y.P.D. Over Protests and Demands Monitor

Letitia James says the police have used illegal and harmful tactics for years, and wants a federal monitor to oversee the department’s tactics at future demonstrations.

By Ashley Southall
Jan. 14, 2021

The New York State attorney general sued the New York City Police Department on Thursday over what she said were widespread abuses in how officers handled the protests that erupted last summer after the killing of George Floyd in Minneapolis.

The attorney general, Letitia James, wants a court-appointed monitor to oversee the department’s policing tactics at future protests, and a court order to declare that the policies and practices the department used during the protests last May and June were unlawful.

The lawsuit, filed in federal court in Manhattan, marked the first time in history that the state attorney general has sued a police department, according to Ms. James’s office.

More than 2,000 demonstrators were arrested, most of them while protesting peacefully.

Mostly peaceful: no more than 999 of the 2000 were rioting.

But from CBS 2 in Chicago:

At Least 12 CPD Officers And Supervisors Suspended After Lounging In Congressman’s Office Amid Looting, Sources Say

By CBS 2 Chicago Staff January 14, 2021

CHICAGO (CBS) — The Chicago Police Department has suspended at least 12 officers accused of lounging, napping, making coffee and popping popcorn in Congressman Bobby Rush’s campaign office in June while looters tore apart the strip mall outside.

Two police sources tell CBS2 Investigator Brad Edwards at least a dozen officers and command staff will face multi-week suspensions. …

The incident happened on June 1, 2020, at Rush’s campaign office at 5401 S. Wentworth Ave., as protests and looting were underway throughout the city in the wake of the death of George Floyd at the hands of Minneapolis police. Lightfoot and Rush were furious that while other officers were dealing with the unrest, at least 13 officers were caught on video relaxing in the congressman’s office.

“One was asleep on my couch in my campaign office. They even had the unmitigated gall to go and make coffee for themselves and to pop popcorn, my popcorn, in my microwave,” Rush said at the time. “They were in a mode of relaxation and did not care about what was happening. They did not care. They absolutely did not care.”

 
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  1. Can you blame them? If you were a cop & had a mob of crazies outside burning the city down and you could drive by & wave on your way to the donut shop…..wouldnt you?

    • Replies: @Polistra
    @Neoconned

    Not to mention that you stand a chance of spending the rest of your life being tortured in prison if you should happen to enforce something when you shouldn't, like a law for instance. Against someone you shouldn't, like anyone but a white male for instance.

    Wow, that sounded really pro-cop. Good.

  2. Clearly the feds are making up for lost time by throwing the book at this mostly peaceful undocumented tour group.

    From Space Marines to this in four short years. This must be what Icarus felt like, tumbling back to God’s Gay Earth.

    • LOL: Polistra
  3. For a second I thought the guy standing behind Mayor Lightfoot was bound and gagged.

    That’s a very ugly sweater.

    • Replies: @Known Fact
    @Kronos

    I know! I was looking to see if he was desperately blinking a message in Morse Code

  4. They should have shot a few of the arsonists and looters right off the bat in Minneapolis. That would have put paid to the rioting.

    • Replies: @Kronos
    @MBlanc46

    Maybe.

    But by African mercenaries whose dark complexion surpasses any potential African American casualties. (If they need to be white units just make damn sure they’re Israeli IDF.)

    https://foreignpolicy.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/450853086_crop.jpg

    Replies: @Escher

    , @AndrewR
    @MBlanc46

    No only white right wingers are subject to deadly force

    , @Reg Cæsar
    @MBlanc46


    They should have shot a few of the arsonists and looters right off the bat in Minneapolis. That would have put paid to the rioting.

     

    Had I been mayor of any of these cities, I'd have ordered the police to shoot any and all white rioters. That would have confused everybody.

    Particularly any FBI or NSA or CIA infiltrators.

    Replies: @Redneck farmer

  5. @MBlanc46
    They should have shot a few of the arsonists and looters right off the bat in Minneapolis. That would have put paid to the rioting.

    Replies: @Kronos, @AndrewR, @Reg Cæsar

    Maybe.

    But by African mercenaries whose dark complexion surpasses any potential African American casualties. (If they need to be white units just make damn sure they’re Israeli IDF.)

    • Replies: @Escher
    @Kronos

    Or they could send the Taliban.
    Considering their Twitter page is still up, it should be safe to do so.

    https://mobile.twitter.com/Zabehulah_M33

  6. They weren’t penitent enough. Those CPD cops should have been out there wearing masks and taking knees.

  7. @MBlanc46
    They should have shot a few of the arsonists and looters right off the bat in Minneapolis. That would have put paid to the rioting.

    Replies: @Kronos, @AndrewR, @Reg Cæsar

    No only white right wingers are subject to deadly force

  8. @MBlanc46
    They should have shot a few of the arsonists and looters right off the bat in Minneapolis. That would have put paid to the rioting.

    Replies: @Kronos, @AndrewR, @Reg Cæsar

    They should have shot a few of the arsonists and looters right off the bat in Minneapolis. That would have put paid to the rioting.

    Had I been mayor of any of these cities, I’d have ordered the police to shoot any and all white rioters. That would have confused everybody.

    Particularly any FBI or NSA or CIA infiltrators.

    • Agree: Paul Jolliffe
    • Replies: @Redneck farmer
    @Reg Cæsar

    REG FOR DICTATOR 2024

    Replies: @Lot, @Gary in Gramercy

  9. Reminder of what happened a mere six months ago that has been largely memory holed.

    FDNY Youtuber footage of the Soho riots in New York City. This is footage after most of the looting was already over. A man is shot at 44:25. The level of police and fire department response is overwhelming.

    Footage of Downtown Chicago getting completely wrecked while the cops mostly just watch.

    • Replies: @Patrick McNally
    @clifford brown

    The last video had some mildly interesting scenes, but he regurgitates the "police murdered George Floyd" hoax. Actual videos on the scene show that Floyd was screeching "I can't breathe" before any officer laid a hand on him. It was drugs in his system which created breathing problems. The officer who held him down applied pressure on the side of Floyd's neck which would not affect the windpipe in any person of normal condition. It was not a chokehold that Floyd was subject to and implying that it was is just regurgitating propaganda.

    Replies: @MB

    , @Technite78
    @clifford brown

    Letitia James is just another one of the many NYC politicians and bureaucrats that have made, and are continuing to make NYC unlivable for law-abiding citizens.

    I left NYC months ago, and I'm more convinced than ever that I'm never going back. I use the Citizen app to monitor both protests and more common criminal behavior (i.e. murder, rape, assault, burglary, etc.) and it's clear that the streets of lower Manhattan are basically a free-for-all.

    The other day on CNBC Jim Cramer used the term "de-urbanization" to describe the vast movement out of American cities and into the suburbs and rural areas. I guess you can't use the term "white flight" anymore? How about "de-gentrification"?

    Replies: @Buffalo Joe, @dvorak

  10. @Reg Cæsar
    @MBlanc46


    They should have shot a few of the arsonists and looters right off the bat in Minneapolis. That would have put paid to the rioting.

     

    Had I been mayor of any of these cities, I'd have ordered the police to shoot any and all white rioters. That would have confused everybody.

    Particularly any FBI or NSA or CIA infiltrators.

    Replies: @Redneck farmer

    REG FOR DICTATOR 2024

    • Replies: @Lot
    @Redneck farmer

    Dictatorship is coming anyway, might as well be our guy.

    , @Gary in Gramercy
    @Redneck farmer

    Absolutely. "Suck it, Griswold!" is a rallying cry for all disparate wings of the dissident right movement.

    (I can't get my Android phone to make Griswold come out in italics; of course, I mean the 1965 Supreme Court decision in Griswold v. Connecticut, invalidating the Nutmeg State's ban on the sale of contraceptives, even to married couples.)

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Anon

  11. One thing that the black politicians will agree upon is that no amount of police brutality will be sufficient to prosecute the “white supremacist” Capitol “insurrectionists” especially since there was a noose involved!!

    The following statement was released by “The Honorable Mayor Ras J. Baraka, The City of Newark, NJ”:

    “Last week, we saw Trump inciting American insurrection, treason, and sedition in the U.S. Capitol. These violent crimes included placing a noose on the Capitol lawn, assault, and six American citizens’ death.”

    “These are perilous times and Newark stands in support of the many law enforcement agencies that are uniting to tackle what will be the largest domestic terror and sedition investigation in American history, to bring to justice every person who committed this horrific conspiracy.”

    • Replies: @Escher
    @CCZ

    Ras J. Baraka sounds like a name out of a Batman comic book.

  12. @Neoconned
    Can you blame them? If you were a cop & had a mob of crazies outside burning the city down and you could drive by & wave on your way to the donut shop.....wouldnt you?

    Replies: @Polistra

    Not to mention that you stand a chance of spending the rest of your life being tortured in prison if you should happen to enforce something when you shouldn’t, like a law for instance. Against someone you shouldn’t, like anyone but a white male for instance.

    Wow, that sounded really pro-cop. Good.

  13. @clifford brown
    Reminder of what happened a mere six months ago that has been largely memory holed.

    FDNY Youtuber footage of the Soho riots in New York City. This is footage after most of the looting was already over. A man is shot at 44:25. The level of police and fire department response is overwhelming.

    https://youtu.be/iUehbjyljQ8?t=2663

    Footage of Downtown Chicago getting completely wrecked while the cops mostly just watch.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IPwpEF1MK_I

    Replies: @Patrick McNally, @Technite78

    The last video had some mildly interesting scenes, but he regurgitates the “police murdered George Floyd” hoax. Actual videos on the scene show that Floyd was screeching “I can’t breathe” before any officer laid a hand on him. It was drugs in his system which created breathing problems. The officer who held him down applied pressure on the side of Floyd’s neck which would not affect the windpipe in any person of normal condition. It was not a chokehold that Floyd was subject to and implying that it was is just regurgitating propaganda.

    • Agree: ES
    • Replies: @MB
    @Patrick McNally

    If George had almost four times the lethal amount of fentanyl in his system that he did according to the autopsy, if they had shot him and he bled out, the cops would have ODed from the fumes.

    [sarc off]
    The man was claustrophobic. He couldn't breathe because his lungs were shutting down due to a drug overdose. No doubt the cop putting pressure on his carotid artery probably didn't help a whole lot, but the whole 'Hands Up, I Can't Breathe Racism' narrative to justify burning things up is a lie.
    IOW just another day at work for our corrupt corporate media hacks and bootlicks.

  14. Mostly Peaceful Rioters

  15. @Redneck farmer
    @Reg Cæsar

    REG FOR DICTATOR 2024

    Replies: @Lot, @Gary in Gramercy

    Dictatorship is coming anyway, might as well be our guy.

  16. The Loot&Lounge would have been acceptable.

    But it was the popcorn. The pocpcorn … that … just … went … too … far!

  17. @clifford brown
    Reminder of what happened a mere six months ago that has been largely memory holed.

    FDNY Youtuber footage of the Soho riots in New York City. This is footage after most of the looting was already over. A man is shot at 44:25. The level of police and fire department response is overwhelming.

    https://youtu.be/iUehbjyljQ8?t=2663

    Footage of Downtown Chicago getting completely wrecked while the cops mostly just watch.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IPwpEF1MK_I

    Replies: @Patrick McNally, @Technite78

    Letitia James is just another one of the many NYC politicians and bureaucrats that have made, and are continuing to make NYC unlivable for law-abiding citizens.

    I left NYC months ago, and I’m more convinced than ever that I’m never going back. I use the Citizen app to monitor both protests and more common criminal behavior (i.e. murder, rape, assault, burglary, etc.) and it’s clear that the streets of lower Manhattan are basically a free-for-all.

    The other day on CNBC Jim Cramer used the term “de-urbanization” to describe the vast movement out of American cities and into the suburbs and rural areas. I guess you can’t use the term “white flight” anymore? How about “de-gentrification”?

    • Replies: @Buffalo Joe
    @Technite78

    Tech, with biden as POTUS you will see a new push to move POC into "affordable" housing in the suburbs. obama made this a cornerstone of his urban policy.

    , @dvorak
    @Technite78


    Letitia James is just another one of the many NYC politicians and bureaucrats
     
    She's more than that - she's one of the Soros Foundation-funded crop of elected Communist D.A.'s and A.G.'s, such as those in San Francisco, Portland and Los Angeles.
  18. Sadly, now that Second City Cop blog is gone, we will never know why those cops were in former black panther bobby bush’s office. I recall that they were assigned to the location. SCC had photos of the massive police presence guarding lightfoot’s house. Security for me, and not for thee. SCC also recently published how many businesses have or are leaving Chicago’s high end shopping district. Go for the cops, the thugs on the street are too dangerous to deal with.

    • Replies: @Known Fact
    @Buffalo Joe


    Security for me, and not for thee.
     
    Right -- did anyone hear a peep out of Schumer and Gillibrand when NYC was burning last summer? And Nadler was like, "Violence? What violence?" But when a little unrest comes to their front door, Congress is right on it!

    Replies: @Buffalo Joe

  19. “They were in a mode of relaxation and did not care about what was happening. They did not care. They absolutely did not care.”

    When it’s a guarantee that every rioter will get released right away, why should they care? Clearly their job doesn’t matter if criminals won’t face any legal consequences for, you know, breaking the law. Police should strike in these cities (who cares if they’re “technically” not supposed to?) but public sector employees only strike over their pensions. Every teachers strike is over pensions while the press drums up sob stories about classroom supplies and the like

    • Agree: Buffalo Joe
  20. @Buffalo Joe
    Sadly, now that Second City Cop blog is gone, we will never know why those cops were in former black panther bobby bush's office. I recall that they were assigned to the location. SCC had photos of the massive police presence guarding lightfoot's house. Security for me, and not for thee. SCC also recently published how many businesses have or are leaving Chicago's high end shopping district. Go for the cops, the thugs on the street are too dangerous to deal with.

    Replies: @Known Fact

    Security for me, and not for thee.

    Right — did anyone hear a peep out of Schumer and Gillibrand when NYC was burning last summer? And Nadler was like, “Violence? What violence?” But when a little unrest comes to their front door, Congress is right on it!

    • Replies: @Buffalo Joe
    @Known Fact

    Known, NYS is cursed with two of the most useless, "look at me" senators and probably the biggest egomaniac as governor. PS, cuomo lost a court decision yesterday regarding the closing (lockdown) of 91 restaurants in WNY. We are now waiting to see how he stomps on these businesses that dared to challenge him. I am quessing over policing of any and all minor code infractions and then loss of liquor license. Stay safe.

  21. @Kronos
    For a second I thought the guy standing behind Mayor Lightfoot was bound and gagged.

    https://legalmarketingmaven.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/hostage1.jpg

    That’s a very ugly sweater.

    Replies: @Known Fact

    I know! I was looking to see if he was desperately blinking a message in Morse Code

  22. @Known Fact
    @Buffalo Joe


    Security for me, and not for thee.
     
    Right -- did anyone hear a peep out of Schumer and Gillibrand when NYC was burning last summer? And Nadler was like, "Violence? What violence?" But when a little unrest comes to their front door, Congress is right on it!

    Replies: @Buffalo Joe

    Known, NYS is cursed with two of the most useless, “look at me” senators and probably the biggest egomaniac as governor. PS, cuomo lost a court decision yesterday regarding the closing (lockdown) of 91 restaurants in WNY. We are now waiting to see how he stomps on these businesses that dared to challenge him. I am quessing over policing of any and all minor code infractions and then loss of liquor license. Stay safe.

  23. @Technite78
    @clifford brown

    Letitia James is just another one of the many NYC politicians and bureaucrats that have made, and are continuing to make NYC unlivable for law-abiding citizens.

    I left NYC months ago, and I'm more convinced than ever that I'm never going back. I use the Citizen app to monitor both protests and more common criminal behavior (i.e. murder, rape, assault, burglary, etc.) and it's clear that the streets of lower Manhattan are basically a free-for-all.

    The other day on CNBC Jim Cramer used the term "de-urbanization" to describe the vast movement out of American cities and into the suburbs and rural areas. I guess you can't use the term "white flight" anymore? How about "de-gentrification"?

    Replies: @Buffalo Joe, @dvorak

    Tech, with biden as POTUS you will see a new push to move POC into “affordable” housing in the suburbs. obama made this a cornerstone of his urban policy.

  24. @Redneck farmer
    @Reg Cæsar

    REG FOR DICTATOR 2024

    Replies: @Lot, @Gary in Gramercy

    Absolutely. “Suck it, Griswold!” is a rallying cry for all disparate wings of the dissident right movement.

    (I can’t get my Android phone to make Griswold come out in italics; of course, I mean the 1965 Supreme Court decision in Griswold v. Connecticut, invalidating the Nutmeg State’s ban on the sale of contraceptives, even to married couples.)

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Gary in Gramercy

    Griswold was pushed by Jews. Enough said, right?


    https://www.biography.com/.image/ar_1:1%2Cc_fill%2Ccs_srgb%2Cfl_progressive%2Cq_auto:good%2Cw_1200/MTIwNjA4NjM0MTAxMTM4OTU2/primary-photo.jpg

    , @Anon
    @Gary in Gramercy


    Absolutely. “Suck it, Griswold!”
     
    If that were representative of the extent of what the parties in Griswold had been engaged in, they wouldn't have required contraceptives in the first place.

    But they might have run afoul of sodomy laws.

  25. @CCZ
    One thing that the black politicians will agree upon is that no amount of police brutality will be sufficient to prosecute the "white supremacist" Capitol "insurrectionists" especially since there was a noose involved!!

    The following statement was released by "The Honorable Mayor Ras J. Baraka, The City of Newark, NJ":

    “Last week, we saw Trump inciting American insurrection, treason, and sedition in the U.S. Capitol. These violent crimes included placing a noose on the Capitol lawn, assault, and six American citizens' death."

    “These are perilous times and Newark stands in support of the many law enforcement agencies that are uniting to tackle what will be the largest domestic terror and sedition investigation in American history, to bring to justice every person who committed this horrific conspiracy."

    Replies: @Escher

    Ras J. Baraka sounds like a name out of a Batman comic book.

  26. @Kronos
    @MBlanc46

    Maybe.

    But by African mercenaries whose dark complexion surpasses any potential African American casualties. (If they need to be white units just make damn sure they’re Israeli IDF.)

    https://foreignpolicy.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/450853086_crop.jpg

    Replies: @Escher

    Or they could send the Taliban.
    Considering their Twitter page is still up, it should be safe to do so.

    https://mobile.twitter.com/Zabehulah_M33

  27. They even had the unmitigated gall to go and make coffee for themselves and to pop popcorn, my popcorn, in my microwave

    Just be thankful you didn’t have any doughnuts in there

  28. @Gary in Gramercy
    @Redneck farmer

    Absolutely. "Suck it, Griswold!" is a rallying cry for all disparate wings of the dissident right movement.

    (I can't get my Android phone to make Griswold come out in italics; of course, I mean the 1965 Supreme Court decision in Griswold v. Connecticut, invalidating the Nutmeg State's ban on the sale of contraceptives, even to married couples.)

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Anon

    Griswold was pushed by Jews. Enough said, right?

  29. MB says: • Website
    @Patrick McNally
    @clifford brown

    The last video had some mildly interesting scenes, but he regurgitates the "police murdered George Floyd" hoax. Actual videos on the scene show that Floyd was screeching "I can't breathe" before any officer laid a hand on him. It was drugs in his system which created breathing problems. The officer who held him down applied pressure on the side of Floyd's neck which would not affect the windpipe in any person of normal condition. It was not a chokehold that Floyd was subject to and implying that it was is just regurgitating propaganda.

    Replies: @MB

    If George had almost four times the lethal amount of fentanyl in his system that he did according to the autopsy, if they had shot him and he bled out, the cops would have ODed from the fumes.

    [sarc off]
    The man was claustrophobic. He couldn’t breathe because his lungs were shutting down due to a drug overdose. No doubt the cop putting pressure on his carotid artery probably didn’t help a whole lot, but the whole ‘Hands Up, I Can’t Breathe Racism’ narrative to justify burning things up is a lie.
    IOW just another day at work for our corrupt corporate media hacks and bootlicks.

  30. @Gary in Gramercy
    @Redneck farmer

    Absolutely. "Suck it, Griswold!" is a rallying cry for all disparate wings of the dissident right movement.

    (I can't get my Android phone to make Griswold come out in italics; of course, I mean the 1965 Supreme Court decision in Griswold v. Connecticut, invalidating the Nutmeg State's ban on the sale of contraceptives, even to married couples.)

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Anon

    Absolutely. “Suck it, Griswold!”

    If that were representative of the extent of what the parties in Griswold had been engaged in, they wouldn’t have required contraceptives in the first place.

    [MORE]

    But they might have run afoul of sodomy laws.

  31. @Technite78
    @clifford brown

    Letitia James is just another one of the many NYC politicians and bureaucrats that have made, and are continuing to make NYC unlivable for law-abiding citizens.

    I left NYC months ago, and I'm more convinced than ever that I'm never going back. I use the Citizen app to monitor both protests and more common criminal behavior (i.e. murder, rape, assault, burglary, etc.) and it's clear that the streets of lower Manhattan are basically a free-for-all.

    The other day on CNBC Jim Cramer used the term "de-urbanization" to describe the vast movement out of American cities and into the suburbs and rural areas. I guess you can't use the term "white flight" anymore? How about "de-gentrification"?

    Replies: @Buffalo Joe, @dvorak

    Letitia James is just another one of the many NYC politicians and bureaucrats

    She’s more than that – she’s one of the Soros Foundation-funded crop of elected Communist D.A.’s and A.G.’s, such as those in San Francisco, Portland and Los Angeles.

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