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Screenshot 2015-11-19 02.32.55In 2012, Barack Obama pummeled Mitt Romney in New York City 81-18, with Obama winning 51% of Staten Island, 79% of Queens, 82% of Brooklyn, 84% of Manhattan, and 91% of the Bronx.

But white New Yorkers are more protective of their own turf. After black Democrat David Dinkins’ single term in 1990-1993, the Democratic candidate lost the next five mayoral elections.

But all that changed forever two years ago when Bill de Blasio was elected as a sort of black-in-law Democrat.

Or maybe not.

From the New York Times:

Mayor de Blasio Has Lost Support of White New Yorkers, Poll Finds

By MICHAEL M. GRYNBAUM, ALEXANDER BURNS and DALIA SUSSMAN
NOVEMBER 17, 2015

Nearing the midpoint of his term, Mayor Bill de Blasio is confronting a city that is deeply divided about his ability to lead, with his efforts to create a more liberal New York overshadowed by growing worries about homelessness and crime, a new poll finds.

Nowhere is that concern more visible than among a group, long cool to Mr. de Blasio, that he has now decisively lost: whites.

Just 28 percent of white New Yorkers approve of the Democratic mayor’s performance, and 59 percent now disapprove, up sharply from the start of his term, according to a citywide poll conducted by The New York Times and Siena College. …

Mr. de Blasio’s support among white residents has descended to a level so dismal that it has challenged a core assumption of his political strategy: that in a diversifying city, moderate white voters had lost much of their electoral influence, and that the mayor’s path to re-election runs through nonwhite communities.

… Mr. de Blasio, whose black wife and biracial children are central to his image as a champion of multiethnic New York, secured his mayoralty with substantial black support. But he also won in white liberal enclaves like brownstone Brooklyn and the Upper West Side of Manhattan, places where his stock has since fallen.

 
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  1. This raises the question of how De Blasio was elected in the first place. I suspect two factors were at work:

    1) A significant percentage of white voters were either too young to remember or weren’t living in New York during the Dinkins administration.

    2) De Blasio was elected a year before the fanning of black resentment started in earnest, with the Ferguson business.

    • Replies: @NJ Transit Commuter
    @Dave Pinsen

    De Blasio was elected because the presumed favorite, and Clinton loyalist, Anthony Weiner, got caught for the 2nd time sending compromising selfies of himself to young women. (Apparently NYC voters were OK with the first time). This was shortly before the Democratic Party primary, which served as the actual election as there was no viable Republican running.

    De Blasio's campaign strategy was to repeat endlessly "By the way, did I mention my wife is black, and so are my two kids?" In the minds of Democratic voters in 2013 that qualified him to become the mayor...
    , @neutral
    Is this not simply down to New York consisting of ever less whites ? If whites keep on shrinking then surely its obvious that it does not matter what white voters want.
    , @Jeff77450
    De Blasio won for the same reason that, arguably, most candidates win: Low voter turnout (by the opposing side). According to the NYT article that I'll post below, voter turnout was on the order of 24% of the electorate. If literally everyone who nominally identified as being on "the Right" or otherwise opposed to Bill De Blasio, and who were eligible to vote, had voted then his opponent would have won.

    The Right could take this country back if everyone (on the Right) would get out and vote.

    http://www.nytimes.com/news/election-2013/2013/11/06/new-york-turnout-appears-headed-for-record-low/?_r=0
    , @WhatEvvs
    If memory serves, only 18% of the electorate came out to vote. This election followed five straight elections that were passion-filled affairs. People just got tired and stayed home. I voted for Lhota simply as a protest, and because my conscience told me to, but he wasn't a very inspiring candidate.
    , @Jim Don Bob
    Nope. Only 16% of eligible voters voted. NYC has a population of 8.4 million which means that 1.3 million voters showed up. NYC has at least 250,000 employees and God knows how many other tax eaters, so Bill de Blasio, born cisgendered as Warren Wilhelm, was a slam dunk.
    , @Jimi
    DiBlasio also promoted himself as an Italian-American from Brooklyn. A lot of people incorrectly presumed he was an outer-borough ethnic white like Giuliani. This is why he won the majority of Staten Island.

    People didn't realize he was SWPL type of guy form the New Brooklyn.
    , @AndrewR
    No, he campaigned on black resentment. He called George Zimmerman's acquittal "a slap in the face of justice."
  2. Well, for now, they’re just saying.

  3. White New Yorkers really enjoy being a tiny, enlightened elite in a sea of diversity (outside of their neighborhood of course). On the one hand, they are shielded from the unwashed masses in their expensive enclaves that keep non-whites out. On the other hand, they enjoy the fact that, at any time, they can venture outside of their enclave to spend a time at any of the higher scale “authentic” ethnic restaurants and experience diversity in small doses.

    They also like SEEING diversity in the abstract (e.g., food vendors, cab drivers) but not having to deal with the realities of it (crime, poor services, corruption). DeBlasio threatens to bring the latter because he is going past lip service to diversity and actually working to erase the segregation in the schools and neighborhoods, AND making them less safe by not enforcing the law against criminal blacks.

    • Replies: @WowJustWow
    You might be able to keep diversity out of your ridiculously expensive apartment building, but to really insulate yourself from it you basically have to give up on all the benefits of a walkable city. You need to drive (or be driven) everywhere. Every aspect of your daily routine becomes a constant reminder of your hypocrisy.

    The SJWs who can't afford to live like that become as hardened as anyone else. Putting on a resting bitch face while walking past a beggar. On a subway train on their way to a diversity seminar, frowning and staring off into space pretending not to notice, how do you say, youths acting out. (Those moments are even more entertaining when an announcement comes on the loudspeaker reminding everybody that it is, in fact, against the law to assault transit workers.)

    After only a few days in this city I began to seriously wonder how people manage to remain so liberal here.
  4. Inside Las Colonias, the Texas Border Towns Without Electricity or Running Water

    A combination of poverty and loyalty keep families in these hidden slums along the US-Mexico border, often for generations.

    http://www.vice.com/read/inside-colonias-the-texas-border-towns-without-electricity-or-running-water

    • Replies: @Anon7
    I had no idea. The deeper you look into things, the worse it gets. The colonias are a pretty good indicator of what Mexicans build on their own; the third world, right here in the USA.

    I'm going to stop clicking on links now.
  5. The Obama people have taken a permissive attitude toward crime. The right sort of Republican president could just as easily influence cities to straighten up. But if that doesn’t happen, New York Republicans can capitalize on white disaffection by fielding a law and order candidate in 2017.

  6. I wonder what percentage of my people in NYC voted for Bill De Blasio simply because his last name ends with a vowel? I have a family member who admires Nancy Pelosi simply because she is Italian.

    • Replies: @Evocatus
    Looking at this map of the 2013 election, it appears that most of the remaining Italian neighborhoods in the five boroughs (Bay Ridge/Dyker Heights in Brooklyn, Howard Beach and Middle Village in Queens, Morris Park in the Bronx and the South Shore of Staten Island) voted for Lhota, who is partly Italian himself. And De Blasio isn't Kaiser Wilhelm's real name anyway.

    http://www.nytimes.com/projects/elections/2013/general/nyc-mayor/map.html
    , @Barnard
    The Social Justice Warrior formerly known as Warren Wilhelm is only half Italian. I wonder how many New York Italians know or care about that.
    , @anonymous
    I suspect this is why he changed his name.

    He was born 'Warren Wilhelm'
    , @hhsiii
    His given name was Warren Wilhelm, Jr. (his father was a Pacific combat veteran and his parents split when he was 7). DeBlasio was his mother's maiden name. He changed it to Warren Wilhelm-De Blasio in 1983 when he was 22. He went by Bill DeBlasio when he entered politics and legally changed his name again in 2001.
    , @Father O'Hara
    I wish theyd differentiate betwixt "White" (you know,regular AMERICANS!) and jews. I imagine the latter are much more impressed with this birdbrained clown and his Jeffersons family. Problem is,DeBlasio has a rep as an incompetent who runs on CP time,so maybe the jews are getting tired of his act. Diverse crime seems to fall vastly disproportionately on us than them,so I think their anti-crime boiling point would be much higher.
  7. If crime goes up, even liberals get scared eventually. It’s how Giuliani got in to begin with.

    You could probably find a cycle where the liberals elect a liberal mayor, crime gets worse and worse until they can’t take it, they elect a conservative, the city gets better for a while until they forget why they elected a conservative, and so on.

    • Replies: @WhatEvvs
    There are homeless bums everywhere now. In my neighborhood we have a few harmless dudes who have been around for ages. Everyone knows them. But they've been joined by an army of nasty, dirty, ugly PITAs.
    , @yaqub the mad scientist
    I think its human nature, but when the population has a constant high turnover like NYC, its even more acute.
  8. @Dave Pinsen
    This raises the question of how De Blasio was elected in the first place. I suspect two factors were at work:

    1) A significant percentage of white voters were either too young to remember or weren't living in New York during the Dinkins administration.

    2) De Blasio was elected a year before the fanning of black resentment started in earnest, with the Ferguson business.

    De Blasio was elected because the presumed favorite, and Clinton loyalist, Anthony Weiner, got caught for the 2nd time sending compromising selfies of himself to young women. (Apparently NYC voters were OK with the first time). This was shortly before the Democratic Party primary, which served as the actual election as there was no viable Republican running.

    De Blasio’s campaign strategy was to repeat endlessly “By the way, did I mention my wife is black, and so are my two kids?” In the minds of Democratic voters in 2013 that qualified him to become the mayor…

    • Agree: AndrewR
    • Replies: @Jim Don Bob
    Plus, "Did I mention that my wife is a lesbian?"
  9. I love those bagel eating whites in New York, such as Grynbaum and Sussman. I can’t believe the NYT employs such blatant WNs, but there you go.

  10. Wasn’t turnout in the last mayoral election so low that the percentage of eligible voters who actually voted for de Blasio was something like 20%? His election seems more like a fluke than an honest expression of the city’s political center of gravity.

    For what it’s worth, I have a lot of family and friends in and around NYC, almost to a person Democrats and not a single one has anything good to say about de Blasio at all – most think he’s going to make the city a worse place to live.

  11. Two police officers kill an unarmed Black thug in Minnesota.
    http://www.businessinsider.com/minnesota-identified-police-officers-involved-in-jamar-clark-shooting-2015-11

    It is not getting round the clock nationwide media coverage like Ferguson and Baltimore for example. My first theory is that it is bad timing, meaning ISIS for the time being is going to overshadow anything involving Hussein Obama’s sons violently clashing with police officers. My second theory is the Left Wing media has milked these stories to death, so the silent majority are no longer emotionally invested in these incidents. The Left Wing has over saturated these stories.

    • Replies: @AnAnon
    It is not in the south. the narrative is about painting red states as bad.
    , @Stan D Mute

    It is not getting round the clock nationwide media coverage like Ferguson and Baltimore for example.
     
    I haven't watched TV in well over a decade (always hated commercials, laugh tracks make me violent, and concluded Fox News was just leftists telling conservatives what to think), but when I search "Jamar" I get as many hits as I used to get for any of the previous permanently reformed African criminals. https://duckduckgo.com/?q=jamar+clark. I doubt I'm alone insofar as being completely bored by this nonsense. Wake me up when we are ready to seriously and pragmatically address Africans' refusal to accept Western norms of civil behavior.
  12. …challenged a core assumption of his political strategy: that in a diversifying city, moderate white voters had lost much of their electoral influence…

    I’m used to the Times doing a victory dance over the electoral carcass of conservative Whites; now they are starting the dance on moderate Whites.

    Not that the actual policies of de blasio suck; no, it is just that a certain demographic has started to dislike him.

  13. Do the majority of Asian Americans in NYC still support Bill De Blasio? If they do, that would surprise me because Asians are not disproportionately effected by Stop & Frisk. I understand why most African Americans, Jamaicans, Puerto Ricans, and Dominicans in NYC would still support De Blasio, because they are disproportionately stopped and frisked.

    • Replies: @EriK
    Do you ever get tired of pulling things out of your hat? I do.
    http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/mayor-bloomberg-stop-and-frisk-disproportionately-stop-whites-minorities-article-1.1385410
    , @Karl
    >>> Puerto Ricans [...] in NYC would still support De Blasio, because they are disproportionately stopped and frisked.

    My impression is that nowadays, most P.Ricans under the age of 40, are FULLY bilingual, and run conservative.


    Just as "white nationalist" -minded white guys don't really give much thought to how curly/kinky their own hair is..... lots of Hispanics don't identify with their skin color, even if it be rather dark. In their own minds, their ethnicity is Spanish.

    Dominicanos are WELL aware in that "back home", P.Rican guys are =totally= into the cheap 30-minute hop to SantoDomingo for the weekend, to get some inexpensive Dominicana pussy.
  14. Unreported story is that DiBlasio is trying to rezone huge chunks of middle class Brooklyn, Staten Island, the Bronx and Queens to build “Affordable Senior Housing”. The “Senior” element is marketing. Most seniors either have enough money to live here or move down south, black or white. Once the buildings go up, they’ll be dumped into the NYC Housing Authority, which is already mismanaged. As other cities get rid of projects and are going with the Section 8 model, Diblasio doubles down on the failed model. The City Planning Commission claims there is a dire need for all this, but really, how many more people do we need here who don’t work nor pay taxes. Been to several community meetings in Brooklyn and Queens. NOBODY of any color wants any more public housing. And they especially do not want 6- story ugly monstrosities filled with criminals, moochers and nonhackers turning their car-friendly 1 and 2 family low rise neighborhoods into shitholes.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    "Unreported story is that DiBlasio is trying to rezone huge chunks of middle class Brooklyn, Staten Island, the Bronx and Queens to build “Affordable Senior Housing”. The “Senior” element is marketing."

    Where I live, the marketing for affordable housing seems to be that we need affordable housing for all the teachers and firefighters who can't afford housing close to where they work, as well as some mention of senior citizens. Who would mind living near nice teachers, firefighters and senior citizens?
    , @WhatEvvs
    Back in the day, Don Trump offered to buy the projects from the city for a flat fee. Needless to say he was turned out. It's insane that so much real estate is in effect a subsidized no go zone. Remember the crazy dude with the tiger in the 4 bedroom in Harlem?
    , @E. Burke
    Projects are in the ghetto, Section 8 turns working and lower middle class neighborhoods into ghetto. Few programs have done as much to ruin decent, inexpensive neighborhoods.
  15. • Replies: @boogerbently
    All Christie had to say was that he never wanted to see a picture like that of an American boy.

    Dems are so much better at playing the game.
    Obama's "GOP afraid of widows and orphans" line.
    GOP to obama: OK, ONLY allow widows and orphans.
    Women have run the social/political show for 40 years, and still do.
    Why do they favor allowing the most patriarchal, woman disrespecting, ignorant,
    incapable of assimilation, breed of savages into our country ?
    Consistent thinking ?
    , @jesse helms thinkalike
    That photo of the dead toddler has been shown to be staged. The body was found wedged in some rocks on the shoreline and then moved; hair and clothes were arranged and the body was positioned for the best photo.


    http://www.conspiracy-cafe.com/apps/blog/show/43523758-was-the-world-s-most-chilling-image-a-fake-
  16. I imagine he’s also lost a lot of the Asian electorate, which unlike the rest of the country is fairly significant in NYC. Things like moving public housing close to Chinese-populated areas of Queens, trying to impose affirmative action at Stuyvesant and Bronx School of Science, and rising Black crime rates (which typically affect Asians disproportionately), have probably not endeared DeBlasio to the Asian community.

    • Replies: @Myra Esoteric
    Most Asian kids outside of elite suburbs in California, Texas, New Jersey and Virginia attend the same schools as prole Black and Hispanic kids, not elite white private schools. They might not face stop and frisk but many do face losing friends to such policies and often feel these issues viscerally because they grew up in the same environments.

    Indian, Filipino and Pakistani young men (among other ethnicities) in baggy pants are sometimes mistaken for black or Hispanic and targeted by these policies. Only a small percentage go to predominantly Asian schools in Chinatown or Little India, or magnet schools. The Palo Alto dynamic is almost absent on the east coast.

    There is a huge generational divide among Asian voters. The parents might like Bobby Jindal for example, but the kids are more likely to side with their classmates and the people they grew up with in the inner city.

  17. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    OT: Steve, I don’t know about you, but I agree with Obama and the other liberals who have complete confidence in the vetting process. Here’s a good example of the fine screening process:

    The New York Times (4/24/2013):

    WASHINGTON — Despite being told in 2011 that an F.B.I. review had found that a man who went on to become one of the suspects in the Boston Marathon bombings had no ties to extremists, the Russian government asked the Central Intelligence Agency six months later for whatever information it had on him, American officials said Wednesday.

    After its review, the C.I.A. also told the Russian intelligence service that it had no suspicious information on the man, Tamerlan Tsarnaev, who was killed in a shootout with the police early last Friday. It is not clear what prompted the Russians to make the request of the C.I.A.

    But I’m sure the even more incompetent USG agencies doing the screening (ICE, USCIS) will do better. But as Nicholas Kristoff suggested last night on a panel discussion on CNN, if we don’t accept these refugees we will be like the horrible America in 1939 which turned away Jews ships who were fleeing Nazi Germany.

    • Replies: @Lugash
    One of the odd aspects of the Boston bombers was that they were interviewed by the FBI at least three times according the Janet Reno:

    http://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/12/books/review/the-brothers-masha-gessens-book-about-the-boston-marathon-bombers.html?_r=1

    In the course of armchair quarterbacking that followed the bombing, it was revealed that the Russian Federal Security Service, known as the F.S.B., had notified the F.B.I. in 2011 about Tamerlan’s presence in the United States. Although criticized for inadequate follow-up, the F.B.I. actually interviewed Tamerlan and other household members at least three times in 2011. Further requests to the F.S.B. for details went unanswered. Other than putting Tamerlan under 24-hour surveillance, it is difficult to ascertain what more the F.B.I. could have done — according to Gessen, Russia routinely presumes all young urban Muslim men to be radical.
     
    If you separate the ugly dyke-dyke bitching, the message is that as long as the appropriate boxes are checked, no need to worry if anyone is doing a good job.
  18. @Dave Pinsen
    This raises the question of how De Blasio was elected in the first place. I suspect two factors were at work:

    1) A significant percentage of white voters were either too young to remember or weren't living in New York during the Dinkins administration.

    2) De Blasio was elected a year before the fanning of black resentment started in earnest, with the Ferguson business.

    Is this not simply down to New York consisting of ever less whites ? If whites keep on shrinking then surely its obvious that it does not matter what white voters want.

    • Replies: @Kevin O'Keeffe
    "Is this not simply down to New York consisting of ever less whites ? If whites keep on shrinking then surely its obvious that it does not matter what white voters want."

    Yeah, except the White population of New York, has been on the increase for some years now. Its no longer waning, like it was 20 years ago. There are more Whites in NYC than there used to be, both in terms of total numbers, and as a percentage of the population. That trend seems to be continuing.
    , @Anonym
    Perhaps in these circumstances it would be more instructive to see graphs of absolute voter numbers over time as well. % is a great way to see loyalties and racial bloc voting. But absolute is a great way to see which demographics amount to 3/5 of stuff all. E.g. "Oh, the crucial hispanic vote went down a pixel! Maybe the Taco Tuesday initiative won't be as critical as we thought it would."
  19. It’s strange to hear that he’s ‘lost’ them. How did a person like that ever have them to begin with? It’s not like what he was about was unknown.

  20. Mary Beard is not a serious scholar. Interesting subject though with much good scholarship. The Fall of Rome by an English scholar includes a list in German of the putative reasons why Rome fell; there are 200+ reasons. Also a picture of a wall of a bordello in Pompeii with graffiti in many hands and many scripts. On lower left corner of illustration one graffito reads :fosforos hic futuit. Martin van Creveld on his blog (who knew he had a blog?) recommends WAR! WHAT IS IT GOOD FOR? by Ian Morris.

    NYTimes is sometimes spot on: “I say it firmly: France will remain the country of liberty, of movements, of culture,” he said. “An active, valiant, dynamic country.” (Francois Hollande) “What would France be without its museums, without its terraces, without its concerts, without its sports competitions?” he added.

    You used to be able to go see the pyramids, not anymore. France is not Disney Land you’d think but actually it is. They do have an aircraft carrier and competitive fighter jets. Who did not get off on pics of Russian B-52 type Bears dropping dumb bombs, their first time ever in combat or did they use them in their Afghanistan operation?

    • Replies: @5371
    First time, and for the Tu-160 as well.
  21. @Dave Pinsen
    This raises the question of how De Blasio was elected in the first place. I suspect two factors were at work:

    1) A significant percentage of white voters were either too young to remember or weren't living in New York during the Dinkins administration.

    2) De Blasio was elected a year before the fanning of black resentment started in earnest, with the Ferguson business.

    De Blasio won for the same reason that, arguably, most candidates win: Low voter turnout (by the opposing side). According to the NYT article that I’ll post below, voter turnout was on the order of 24% of the electorate. If literally everyone who nominally identified as being on “the Right” or otherwise opposed to Bill De Blasio, and who were eligible to vote, had voted then his opponent would have won.

    The Right could take this country back if everyone (on the Right) would get out and vote.

    http://www.nytimes.com/news/election-2013/2013/11/06/new-york-turnout-appears-headed-for-record-low/?_r=0

    • Replies: @TB2
    Take it back how, by voting Republican? There's no better plan to take back your country than the Republican plan of flooding it with tens of millions of third-world foreigners. Not to mention the useless wars.
  22. DiBlasio was elected with the lowest turnout in NYC history, as well as running against an uninspiring field of candidates.
    He’ll be one and done, just like his old boss Dinkins.

    • Replies: @Kevin O'Keeffe
    "DiBlasio was elected with the lowest turnout in NYC history, as well as running against an uninspiring field of candidates.
    He’ll be one and done, just like his old boss Dinkins."


    You're probably correct...but keep in mind that the Republicans, as far as I know, don't have a top-tier candidate like Giuliani on the shelf. Also, DiBlasio has the advantage of, you know, not actually being Black, so he may manage to win a narrow re-election. Hopefully not, but its well within the realm of likely political outcomes.
  23. WhatEvvs [AKA "Internet Addict"] says:
    @Dave Pinsen
    This raises the question of how De Blasio was elected in the first place. I suspect two factors were at work:

    1) A significant percentage of white voters were either too young to remember or weren't living in New York during the Dinkins administration.

    2) De Blasio was elected a year before the fanning of black resentment started in earnest, with the Ferguson business.

    If memory serves, only 18% of the electorate came out to vote. This election followed five straight elections that were passion-filled affairs. People just got tired and stayed home. I voted for Lhota simply as a protest, and because my conscience told me to, but he wasn’t a very inspiring candidate.

  24. WhatEvvs [AKA "Internet Addict"] says:
    @SFG
    If crime goes up, even liberals get scared eventually. It's how Giuliani got in to begin with.

    You could probably find a cycle where the liberals elect a liberal mayor, crime gets worse and worse until they can't take it, they elect a conservative, the city gets better for a while until they forget why they elected a conservative, and so on.

    There are homeless bums everywhere now. In my neighborhood we have a few harmless dudes who have been around for ages. Everyone knows them. But they’ve been joined by an army of nasty, dirty, ugly PITAs.

    • Replies: @The Anti-Gnostic
    What are "PITAs?"
    , @Father O'Hara
    You remind me of the South Park bit where the guy is on Wheel of Fortune. The puzzle says,"annoying people" and the letters are N_GGERS. The contestant does not get the correct term,which is of course,NAGGERS. Lots of naggers around your place?
  25. @SFG
    If crime goes up, even liberals get scared eventually. It's how Giuliani got in to begin with.

    You could probably find a cycle where the liberals elect a liberal mayor, crime gets worse and worse until they can't take it, they elect a conservative, the city gets better for a while until they forget why they elected a conservative, and so on.

    I think its human nature, but when the population has a constant high turnover like NYC, its even more acute.

  26. @Dave Pinsen
    This raises the question of how De Blasio was elected in the first place. I suspect two factors were at work:

    1) A significant percentage of white voters were either too young to remember or weren't living in New York during the Dinkins administration.

    2) De Blasio was elected a year before the fanning of black resentment started in earnest, with the Ferguson business.

    Nope. Only 16% of eligible voters voted. NYC has a population of 8.4 million which means that 1.3 million voters showed up. NYC has at least 250,000 employees and God knows how many other tax eaters, so Bill de Blasio, born cisgendered as Warren Wilhelm, was a slam dunk.

  27. The “lost the white vote” is code for “lost the Jewish vote”. They are scared, and fear that their posh enclaves may be threatened. Alas as Burnham described in his early 60s “Suicide of the West” liberals are like foxes in that their modus operandi is cunning , verabalization and abhorring the use of overt power, so when confronted with a raging lion the fox’s tools are rendered powerless and he simply whimpers and withdraws.
    Your house was built on sand ( the illogical tenets of modern liberalism – see Sayet’s ” The Kindergarden of Eden”) thus you reap what you sow.

  28. Most white New Yorkers have never understood how humiliating and devastating the stop and frisk policies were for African-Americans. That unconstitutional policy was the main reason black New Yorkers voted for the mayor in the numbers they did and why they will continue to support him. Unfortunately, that willful ignorance and inability to “see” the lives of those without privilege will ultimately destroy us a city and doom us a nation.

    But the white perception of safety in New York is a different story. This has to simply be called for what it is–clear unconscious racial bias. These same New Yorkers felt safe when there were 700,000 stop and frisks of black and Latino youth by the police every years under Bloomberg. That made them “feel” safe even though the cost of those draconian policies was being born by their fellow New Yorkers who happened not to be white. It didn’t matter that these stops affected everyone who was black or brown, middle class or poor, projects or downtown. If you weren’t white you were a suspect or potential suspect.

    I’m sorry white voters “feel unsafe,” even though the data says otherwise. But I’m not prepared to give up my rights to satisfy their perceptions. At least on this point it’s not de Blasio’s fault. New York for all its liberal veneer has an undercurrent of racial discrimination that these surveys simply bear out.

    Anybody pining for Giuliani has a short attention span. Anybody pining for Bloomberg has too much money. Anybody saying crime is going up needs to look at the statistics. De Blasio is still so much better than the alternatives that we have to give him more of a chance.

    • Replies: @bomag
    Unfortunately, that willful ignorance and inability to “see” the lives of those without privilege will ultimately destroy us a city and doom us a nation.

    Thanks for the lecture on ignorance; inability to "see"; destruction; and doom. I'll see what I can do to improve myself in those areas.
    , @WhatEvvs

    That unconstitutional policy was the main reason black New Yorkers voted for the mayor in the numbers they did and why they will continue to support him.

     

    In the election, yes. You forget that the primary was between De Blasio and William Thompson, a black male moderate, who very nearly upset Bloomberg in the previous election. Thompson got screwed. He didn't benefit from the Chirlane factor and the rainbow kids factor. And blacks didn't vote for BDB in huge numbers: the majority of the electorate didn't even bother to turn up. It was 24% - my memory was faulty but not by much.

    http://www.nytimes.com/news/election-2013/2013/11/06/new-york-turnout-appears-headed-for-record-low/

    If blacks were so hoppin' mad about SaF, why they stay home and let the other guy (or more likely woman) do the heavy lifting?

    , @Anonymous

    I’m sorry white voters “feel unsafe,” even though the data says otherwise. But I’m not prepared to give up my rights to satisfy their perceptions.
     
    Given the recent events at multiple universities, I have no words.
    , @rod1963
    Thanks but I'll keep on supporting law and order candidates over others who support BLM and other black thug movements and make excuses for the knock-out game.

    There's a reason why blacks are profiled, it's because black males take to crime the way other races take to breathing. Crime and indolence comes naturally to the black man, though some would so does whining like a baby.

    They need to be watched and imprisoned as needed.
    , @Anonymous
    I agree that stop and frisk is pretty bad for innocent minorities--not a tragedy but not that great. My white privilege has not stopped cops from being assholes to me, btw, and I don't like it--but I also move on with my life and a general dislike of 98 iq high school bullies with badges.


    So I agree with you that minorities should be upset and they should do something about it. Ie, minorities should be angry that their fellow minorities won't stop committing an insane number of crimes and they should clean up their communities and families and demand they stop being such violent criminals.
    , @anonymous

    I’m sorry white voters “feel unsafe,”
     
    You're not sorry at all, you're just a liar. Maybe you and yours might try to see things from someone else's point of view someday instead of being totally self-absorbed. But that would be impossible since infantile minds are incapable of anything like that. Yeah, the black homicide rate all across this country is just white people's "perception". Just low-grade gibberish.
    , @Father O'Hara
    I bet. When it comes to "humiliation" the brothers believe it is better to give than to receive.
    , @peterike

    Most white New Yorkers have never understood how humiliating and devastating the stop and frisk policies were for African-Americans... blah blah blah.

     

    Thank you for beginning your morally preening post with a trigger warning, letting me know right at the start that everything following would be fallacious, bed-wetting hysteria.
    , @Mr. Anon
    "Unfortunately, that willful ignorance and inability to “see” the lives of those without privilege will ultimately destroy us a city and doom us a nation.

    Ignorance and inability to see the lives of others - sounds like BLM protestors.

    By the way, I am sympathetic to your objection to stop-and-frisk policies. I wouldn't want it for whites, so I can certainly understand that responsible blacks and hispanics wouldn't want it for them either. If we, as a society, were able to be honest about crime - about who tends to commit it and why - those people in New York might not feel that such an intrusive policy is necessary to "feel safe", as you put it.
    , @William Badwhite
    "Most white New Yorkers have never understood how humiliating and devastating the stop and frisk policies were for African-Americans"

    How could we not know? Blacks complained about it constantly. I know how they felt, I just don't care.

    "That made them “feel” safe even though the cost of those draconian policies was being born by their fellow New Yorkers who happened not to be white"

    Most black New Yorkers are not my "fellow" anything. They are people that reside in the same area in which I work. They're not my people, I have nothing in common with them, and don't want to be around them. Assuming you're one of them, you and your "fellow" African-Americans go to great lengths to be different, to violate most white social norms, and to generally be as rude and as obnoxious as possible. You can't simultaneously put great effort into being oppositional, then play the "fellow New Yorker" card.

    You wanted to be different. Okay, now you get treated as if you're different. Quit whining about it.
  29. He lowered the speed limit from 30 to 25, and installed speed cameras *everywhere.* We don’t even drive that much and collectively my family has received about 7-8 tickets already, after receiving zero in three decades of living in this city.

    Even apolitical people get tired of these “microagressions” and begin to notice there’s a war being waged against them.

  30. There’s nothing weird about this. The politics of urban areas are way different than the politics of a whole country. The homeostatic equilibrium (political center) of urban areas are way to the left of that of the whole country. It’s easy to see how a big percentage of New Yorkers would be to the right of the city’s center but to left of the country’s center.

    Which means you could have Republican mayors, but the city residents will always vote for Democrats in Federal elections.

  31. Why no polls of Asian voters? There are a lot in the city, and growing. You can’t make up the majority of Stuyvesant and Bronx Science without some numbers. My guess is their voting patterns closer to white ethnic than anything else: http://www.nytimes.com/2014/07/26/nyregion/homeless-shelters-opening-in-queens-stirs-ugly-exchanges.html

  32. @Tiny Duck
    Most white New Yorkers have never understood how humiliating and devastating the stop and frisk policies were for African-Americans. That unconstitutional policy was the main reason black New Yorkers voted for the mayor in the numbers they did and why they will continue to support him. Unfortunately, that willful ignorance and inability to "see" the lives of those without privilege will ultimately destroy us a city and doom us a nation.

    But the white perception of safety in New York is a different story. This has to simply be called for what it is--clear unconscious racial bias. These same New Yorkers felt safe when there were 700,000 stop and frisks of black and Latino youth by the police every years under Bloomberg. That made them "feel" safe even though the cost of those draconian policies was being born by their fellow New Yorkers who happened not to be white. It didn't matter that these stops affected everyone who was black or brown, middle class or poor, projects or downtown. If you weren't white you were a suspect or potential suspect.

    I'm sorry white voters "feel unsafe," even though the data says otherwise. But I'm not prepared to give up my rights to satisfy their perceptions. At least on this point it's not de Blasio's fault. New York for all its liberal veneer has an undercurrent of racial discrimination that these surveys simply bear out.

    Anybody pining for Giuliani has a short attention span. Anybody pining for Bloomberg has too much money. Anybody saying crime is going up needs to look at the statistics. De Blasio is still so much better than the alternatives that we have to give him more of a chance.

    Unfortunately, that willful ignorance and inability to “see” the lives of those without privilege will ultimately destroy us a city and doom us a nation.

    Thanks for the lecture on ignorance; inability to “see”; destruction; and doom. I’ll see what I can do to improve myself in those areas.

  33. @Dave Pinsen
    This raises the question of how De Blasio was elected in the first place. I suspect two factors were at work:

    1) A significant percentage of white voters were either too young to remember or weren't living in New York during the Dinkins administration.

    2) De Blasio was elected a year before the fanning of black resentment started in earnest, with the Ferguson business.

    DiBlasio also promoted himself as an Italian-American from Brooklyn. A lot of people incorrectly presumed he was an outer-borough ethnic white like Giuliani. This is why he won the majority of Staten Island.

    People didn’t realize he was SWPL type of guy form the New Brooklyn.

    • Replies: @Bugg
    Actually DiBlasio is his mother's maiden name. He was born Warren Wilhlem and grew up in Cambridge, Mass.. He legally changed the name in order to create some idea that he was in fact an an outer boro Italian-American.
    , @Father O'Hara
    Uhm,when they saw his repentant black lesbian wife and his bizarre children,ya think that mightve given them pause? And when he opened his fat mouth and started to emit lefty babble,shouldnt they have listened a bit??
  34. @Jefferson
    Do the majority of Asian Americans in NYC still support Bill De Blasio? If they do, that would surprise me because Asians are not disproportionately effected by Stop & Frisk. I understand why most African Americans, Jamaicans, Puerto Ricans, and Dominicans in NYC would still support De Blasio, because they are disproportionately stopped and frisked.
    • Replies: @Bad memories
    Yes, if murderers disproportionately had red hair it would make sense to stop and frisk them in proportion to their numbers in the murder statistics, not the overall population.

    If Muslims disproportionately commit terrorism ...
  35. @WhatEvvs
    There are homeless bums everywhere now. In my neighborhood we have a few harmless dudes who have been around for ages. Everyone knows them. But they've been joined by an army of nasty, dirty, ugly PITAs.

    What are “PITAs?”

    • Replies: @WhatEvvs
    PITA = pain in the ass. I wasn't sure where to put the "s" so I put at the end of the acronym. I meant 'pains in the ass.'
    , @anon
    pain in the ass, plural
    , @Bob Arctor
    PITAs = Pain in the A**es
    , @Anonymous
    It's slang for homosexual i.e. "penis in the asses".
    , @Wilkey
    "What are PITAs?"

    Pains In The Ass.
    , @Jim Don Bob
    urbandictionary.com is your friend. It has more than you will ever want to know.
  36. @Jefferson
    I wonder what percentage of my people in NYC voted for Bill De Blasio simply because his last name ends with a vowel? I have a family member who admires Nancy Pelosi simply because she is Italian.

    Looking at this map of the 2013 election, it appears that most of the remaining Italian neighborhoods in the five boroughs (Bay Ridge/Dyker Heights in Brooklyn, Howard Beach and Middle Village in Queens, Morris Park in the Bronx and the South Shore of Staten Island) voted for Lhota, who is partly Italian himself. And De Blasio isn’t Kaiser Wilhelm’s real name anyway.

    http://www.nytimes.com/projects/elections/2013/general/nyc-mayor/map.html

    • Replies: @prosa123
    Bay Ridge was never a traditionally Italian neighborhood. It was once heavily Scandinavian, while today it's mainly mixed with a large Arab population.

    Peter
  37. The big story in the entire tri state area is the rents are going sky high. Brooklyn and Queens are bursting with immigrants. The NYC population is pushing out throughout the region.

    • Replies: @Clyde

    The big story in the entire tri state area is the rents are going sky high. Brooklyn and Queens are bursting with immigrants.
     
    Chinese are taking over Queens. It's a Vancouver Canada situation in parts of Queens. From Korea to Bangladesh, other Asians too are jamming into Queens. Brooklyn has one or two Chinatowns.
  38. The black on white crime rate is fifty times that of the white on black rate.

  39. @Jefferson
    I wonder what percentage of my people in NYC voted for Bill De Blasio simply because his last name ends with a vowel? I have a family member who admires Nancy Pelosi simply because she is Italian.

    The Social Justice Warrior formerly known as Warren Wilhelm is only half Italian. I wonder how many New York Italians know or care about that.

  40. WhatEvvs [AKA "Internet Addict"] says:
    @The Anti-Gnostic
    What are "PITAs?"

    PITA = pain in the ass. I wasn’t sure where to put the “s” so I put at the end of the acronym. I meant ‘pains in the ass.’

  41. WhatEvvs [AKA "Internet Addict"] says:
    @Tiny Duck
    Most white New Yorkers have never understood how humiliating and devastating the stop and frisk policies were for African-Americans. That unconstitutional policy was the main reason black New Yorkers voted for the mayor in the numbers they did and why they will continue to support him. Unfortunately, that willful ignorance and inability to "see" the lives of those without privilege will ultimately destroy us a city and doom us a nation.

    But the white perception of safety in New York is a different story. This has to simply be called for what it is--clear unconscious racial bias. These same New Yorkers felt safe when there were 700,000 stop and frisks of black and Latino youth by the police every years under Bloomberg. That made them "feel" safe even though the cost of those draconian policies was being born by their fellow New Yorkers who happened not to be white. It didn't matter that these stops affected everyone who was black or brown, middle class or poor, projects or downtown. If you weren't white you were a suspect or potential suspect.

    I'm sorry white voters "feel unsafe," even though the data says otherwise. But I'm not prepared to give up my rights to satisfy their perceptions. At least on this point it's not de Blasio's fault. New York for all its liberal veneer has an undercurrent of racial discrimination that these surveys simply bear out.

    Anybody pining for Giuliani has a short attention span. Anybody pining for Bloomberg has too much money. Anybody saying crime is going up needs to look at the statistics. De Blasio is still so much better than the alternatives that we have to give him more of a chance.

    That unconstitutional policy was the main reason black New Yorkers voted for the mayor in the numbers they did and why they will continue to support him.

    In the election, yes. You forget that the primary was between De Blasio and William Thompson, a black male moderate, who very nearly upset Bloomberg in the previous election. Thompson got screwed. He didn’t benefit from the Chirlane factor and the rainbow kids factor. And blacks didn’t vote for BDB in huge numbers: the majority of the electorate didn’t even bother to turn up. It was 24% – my memory was faulty but not by much.

    http://www.nytimes.com/news/election-2013/2013/11/06/new-york-turnout-appears-headed-for-record-low/

    If blacks were so hoppin’ mad about SaF, why they stay home and let the other guy (or more likely woman) do the heavy lifting?

  42. WhatEvvs [AKA "Internet Addict"] says:

    I look forward to seeing The Sailer Takedown of Manola Dargis “review” of the last (and I hope, final) Hunger Games.

    In a world where real thugs with ugly mugs are gunning people down, it’s so much fun to see hot babes take on the white bad guys! And you can watch a Katniss makeup tutorial on Youtube!

  43. @Hapalong Cassidy
    I imagine he's also lost a lot of the Asian electorate, which unlike the rest of the country is fairly significant in NYC. Things like moving public housing close to Chinese-populated areas of Queens, trying to impose affirmative action at Stuyvesant and Bronx School of Science, and rising Black crime rates (which typically affect Asians disproportionately), have probably not endeared DeBlasio to the Asian community.

    Most Asian kids outside of elite suburbs in California, Texas, New Jersey and Virginia attend the same schools as prole Black and Hispanic kids, not elite white private schools. They might not face stop and frisk but many do face losing friends to such policies and often feel these issues viscerally because they grew up in the same environments.

    Indian, Filipino and Pakistani young men (among other ethnicities) in baggy pants are sometimes mistaken for black or Hispanic and targeted by these policies. Only a small percentage go to predominantly Asian schools in Chinatown or Little India, or magnet schools. The Palo Alto dynamic is almost absent on the east coast.

    There is a huge generational divide among Asian voters. The parents might like Bobby Jindal for example, but the kids are more likely to side with their classmates and the people they grew up with in the inner city.

  44. @Anonymouse
    Mary Beard is not a serious scholar. Interesting subject though with much good scholarship. The Fall of Rome by an English scholar includes a list in German of the putative reasons why Rome fell; there are 200+ reasons. Also a picture of a wall of a bordello in Pompeii with graffiti in many hands and many scripts. On lower left corner of illustration one graffito reads :fosforos hic futuit. Martin van Creveld on his blog (who knew he had a blog?) recommends WAR! WHAT IS IT GOOD FOR? by Ian Morris.

    NYTimes is sometimes spot on: “I say it firmly: France will remain the country of liberty, of movements, of culture,” he said. “An active, valiant, dynamic country.” (Francois Hollande) “What would France be without its museums, without its terraces, without its concerts, without its sports competitions?” he added.

    You used to be able to go see the pyramids, not anymore. France is not Disney Land you'd think but actually it is. They do have an aircraft carrier and competitive fighter jets. Who did not get off on pics of Russian B-52 type Bears dropping dumb bombs, their first time ever in combat or did they use them in their Afghanistan operation?

    First time, and for the Tu-160 as well.

  45. @Jimi
    DiBlasio also promoted himself as an Italian-American from Brooklyn. A lot of people incorrectly presumed he was an outer-borough ethnic white like Giuliani. This is why he won the majority of Staten Island.

    People didn't realize he was SWPL type of guy form the New Brooklyn.

    Actually DiBlasio is his mother’s maiden name. He was born Warren Wilhlem and grew up in Cambridge, Mass.. He legally changed the name in order to create some idea that he was in fact an an outer boro Italian-American.

  46. To put it bluntly: if a GOP NYC Mayoral candidate promises to bring back “Stop and Frisk” policies, perhaps he has a shot at winning the election. Maybe a “draft Bloomberg” is in order at this point.

    Not that anyone is supposed to notice that S&F might reduce the number of increasing criminal acts, but there it is.

    • Replies: @WhatEvvs
    Bloomberg? If nominated he will not run, if elected he will not serve. He is not coming back and S+F is a political dead letter. A Republican candidate might win on a "crack down on crime and clean up the streets" platform but no one is bringing back S+F.
  47. De Blasio was very open about what he stood for before becoming mayor. I have no sympathy for anyone who voted for him and is surprised that his actions have been in line with his campaign message. After Zimmerman’s acquittal he tweeted that it was “a slap in the face to justice,” adding, “Trayvon Martin’s death was a terrible tragedy.”

    Liberal NYCers’ chickens are coming home to roost. But that’s none of my business…

  48. @Dave Pinsen
    This raises the question of how De Blasio was elected in the first place. I suspect two factors were at work:

    1) A significant percentage of white voters were either too young to remember or weren't living in New York during the Dinkins administration.

    2) De Blasio was elected a year before the fanning of black resentment started in earnest, with the Ferguson business.

    No, he campaigned on black resentment. He called George Zimmerman’s acquittal “a slap in the face of justice.”

  49. @Jefferson
    I wonder what percentage of my people in NYC voted for Bill De Blasio simply because his last name ends with a vowel? I have a family member who admires Nancy Pelosi simply because she is Italian.

    I suspect this is why he changed his name.

    He was born ‘Warren Wilhelm’

  50. @Jeff77450
    De Blasio won for the same reason that, arguably, most candidates win: Low voter turnout (by the opposing side). According to the NYT article that I'll post below, voter turnout was on the order of 24% of the electorate. If literally everyone who nominally identified as being on "the Right" or otherwise opposed to Bill De Blasio, and who were eligible to vote, had voted then his opponent would have won.

    The Right could take this country back if everyone (on the Right) would get out and vote.

    http://www.nytimes.com/news/election-2013/2013/11/06/new-york-turnout-appears-headed-for-record-low/?_r=0

    Take it back how, by voting Republican? There’s no better plan to take back your country than the Republican plan of flooding it with tens of millions of third-world foreigners. Not to mention the useless wars.

  51. @neutral
    Is this not simply down to New York consisting of ever less whites ? If whites keep on shrinking then surely its obvious that it does not matter what white voters want.

    “Is this not simply down to New York consisting of ever less whites ? If whites keep on shrinking then surely its obvious that it does not matter what white voters want.”

    Yeah, except the White population of New York, has been on the increase for some years now. Its no longer waning, like it was 20 years ago. There are more Whites in NYC than there used to be, both in terms of total numbers, and as a percentage of the population. That trend seems to be continuing.

  52. @Jefferson
    I wonder what percentage of my people in NYC voted for Bill De Blasio simply because his last name ends with a vowel? I have a family member who admires Nancy Pelosi simply because she is Italian.

    His given name was Warren Wilhelm, Jr. (his father was a Pacific combat veteran and his parents split when he was 7). DeBlasio was his mother’s maiden name. He changed it to Warren Wilhelm-De Blasio in 1983 when he was 22. He went by Bill DeBlasio when he entered politics and legally changed his name again in 2001.

  53. He learned the hard way that you can be progressive in many areas but if you slack in public safety, force poor blacks into white schools or neighborhoods you will lose. To that end:

    http://mobile.nytimes.com/2015/11/19/nyregion/eucation-department-drops-proposal-to-rezone-upper-west-side-manhattan-schools.html?_r=0

    • Replies: @Jefferson
    "He learned the hard way that you can be progressive in many areas but if you slack in public safety, force poor blacks into white schools or neighborhoods you will lose. To that end:"

    White Leftists in New York City don't like it when the government tries to force racial integration on them personally. They think the government should only force racial integration on red state Whites in flyover country.
  54. @Dave
    DiBlasio was elected with the lowest turnout in NYC history, as well as running against an uninspiring field of candidates.
    He'll be one and done, just like his old boss Dinkins.

    “DiBlasio was elected with the lowest turnout in NYC history, as well as running against an uninspiring field of candidates.
    He’ll be one and done, just like his old boss Dinkins.”

    You’re probably correct…but keep in mind that the Republicans, as far as I know, don’t have a top-tier candidate like Giuliani on the shelf. Also, DiBlasio has the advantage of, you know, not actually being Black, so he may manage to win a narrow re-election. Hopefully not, but its well within the realm of likely political outcomes.

  55. Anon • Disclaimer says:

    http://dailycaller.com/2015/11/18/marauding-teenagers-attack-woman-and-baby-in-dcs-poshest-neighborhood/

    Uh oh, what with the ‘gay marriage’ hysteria and celebration over, is the power of pink magic wearing off?

    And that Ferguson-triggered BLM seems to be getting a bit out of hand in blue cities.

    I aint complaining. Burn baby Burn.

    (And send all the Muslim migrants to blue cities too. The hell do I care if more Tsarnaevs act bad in places like Boston.)

  56. I don’t know why I need to feed the beast but….

    OT:

    President Trump’s new Scottish golf resort!

    http://www.golf-monthly.co.uk/courses/uk-and-ireland/scotlands-special-newcomer-trump-international-golf-links-82529

  57. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Bugg
    Unreported story is that DiBlasio is trying to rezone huge chunks of middle class Brooklyn, Staten Island, the Bronx and Queens to build "Affordable Senior Housing". The "Senior" element is marketing. Most seniors either have enough money to live here or move down south, black or white. Once the buildings go up, they'll be dumped into the NYC Housing Authority, which is already mismanaged. As other cities get rid of projects and are going with the Section 8 model, Diblasio doubles down on the failed model. The City Planning Commission claims there is a dire need for all this, but really, how many more people do we need here who don't work nor pay taxes. Been to several community meetings in Brooklyn and Queens. NOBODY of any color wants any more public housing. And they especially do not want 6- story ugly monstrosities filled with criminals, moochers and nonhackers turning their car-friendly 1 and 2 family low rise neighborhoods into shitholes.

    “Unreported story is that DiBlasio is trying to rezone huge chunks of middle class Brooklyn, Staten Island, the Bronx and Queens to build “Affordable Senior Housing”. The “Senior” element is marketing.”

    Where I live, the marketing for affordable housing seems to be that we need affordable housing for all the teachers and firefighters who can’t afford housing close to where they work, as well as some mention of senior citizens. Who would mind living near nice teachers, firefighters and senior citizens?

  58. @Tiny Duck
    Most white New Yorkers have never understood how humiliating and devastating the stop and frisk policies were for African-Americans. That unconstitutional policy was the main reason black New Yorkers voted for the mayor in the numbers they did and why they will continue to support him. Unfortunately, that willful ignorance and inability to "see" the lives of those without privilege will ultimately destroy us a city and doom us a nation.

    But the white perception of safety in New York is a different story. This has to simply be called for what it is--clear unconscious racial bias. These same New Yorkers felt safe when there were 700,000 stop and frisks of black and Latino youth by the police every years under Bloomberg. That made them "feel" safe even though the cost of those draconian policies was being born by their fellow New Yorkers who happened not to be white. It didn't matter that these stops affected everyone who was black or brown, middle class or poor, projects or downtown. If you weren't white you were a suspect or potential suspect.

    I'm sorry white voters "feel unsafe," even though the data says otherwise. But I'm not prepared to give up my rights to satisfy their perceptions. At least on this point it's not de Blasio's fault. New York for all its liberal veneer has an undercurrent of racial discrimination that these surveys simply bear out.

    Anybody pining for Giuliani has a short attention span. Anybody pining for Bloomberg has too much money. Anybody saying crime is going up needs to look at the statistics. De Blasio is still so much better than the alternatives that we have to give him more of a chance.

    I’m sorry white voters “feel unsafe,” even though the data says otherwise. But I’m not prepared to give up my rights to satisfy their perceptions.

    Given the recent events at multiple universities, I have no words.

  59. @neutral
    Is this not simply down to New York consisting of ever less whites ? If whites keep on shrinking then surely its obvious that it does not matter what white voters want.

    Perhaps in these circumstances it would be more instructive to see graphs of absolute voter numbers over time as well. % is a great way to see loyalties and racial bloc voting. But absolute is a great way to see which demographics amount to 3/5 of stuff all. E.g. “Oh, the crucial hispanic vote went down a pixel! Maybe the Taco Tuesday initiative won’t be as critical as we thought it would.”

  60. @The Anti-Gnostic
    What are "PITAs?"

    pain in the ass, plural

  61. @Jefferson
    Two police officers kill an unarmed Black thug in Minnesota.
    http://www.businessinsider.com/minnesota-identified-police-officers-involved-in-jamar-clark-shooting-2015-11

    It is not getting round the clock nationwide media coverage like Ferguson and Baltimore for example. My first theory is that it is bad timing, meaning ISIS for the time being is going to overshadow anything involving Hussein Obama's sons violently clashing with police officers. My second theory is the Left Wing media has milked these stories to death, so the silent majority are no longer emotionally invested in these incidents. The Left Wing has over saturated these stories.

    It is not in the south. the narrative is about painting red states as bad.

  62. @The Anti-Gnostic
    What are "PITAs?"

    PITAs = Pain in the A**es

  63. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    It boils down to crime. Crime prevention is one of the most fundamental government services, but it’s clear that politicians who depend on black electoral support are fundamentally compromised in providing this basic service because so many blacks are criminals, so many blacks are friends or relatives of criminals, so many blacks identify or sympathize with criminals, so many blacks regard crime prevention as anti-black, etc.

    Something obviously had to give, and in de Blasio’s case that was providing effective crime prevention, which alienated people who appreciate crime prevention.

  64. @The Anti-Gnostic
    What are "PITAs?"

    It’s slang for homosexual i.e. “penis in the asses”.

  65. @The Anti-Gnostic
    What are "PITAs?"

    “What are PITAs?”

    Pains In The Ass.

  66. In some ways whites in New York City aren’t all that different from the white Southerners so many of them look down on. There’s a wall keeping the barbarians out, and sometimes they forget it. Southerners are far more conscious of the fact that the wall always has to be guarded.

  67. @Anonymous
    OT: Steve, I don't know about you, but I agree with Obama and the other liberals who have complete confidence in the vetting process. Here's a good example of the fine screening process:

    The New York Times (4/24/2013):

    WASHINGTON — Despite being told in 2011 that an F.B.I. review had found that a man who went on to become one of the suspects in the Boston Marathon bombings had no ties to extremists, the Russian government asked the Central Intelligence Agency six months later for whatever information it had on him, American officials said Wednesday.

    After its review, the C.I.A. also told the Russian intelligence service that it had no suspicious information on the man, Tamerlan Tsarnaev, who was killed in a shootout with the police early last Friday. It is not clear what prompted the Russians to make the request of the C.I.A.
     
    But I'm sure the even more incompetent USG agencies doing the screening (ICE, USCIS) will do better. But as Nicholas Kristoff suggested last night on a panel discussion on CNN, if we don't accept these refugees we will be like the horrible America in 1939 which turned away Jews ships who were fleeing Nazi Germany.

    One of the odd aspects of the Boston bombers was that they were interviewed by the FBI at least three times according the Janet Reno:

    http://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/12/books/review/the-brothers-masha-gessens-book-about-the-boston-marathon-bombers.html?_r=1

    In the course of armchair quarterbacking that followed the bombing, it was revealed that the Russian Federal Security Service, known as the F.S.B., had notified the F.B.I. in 2011 about Tamerlan’s presence in the United States. Although criticized for inadequate follow-up, the F.B.I. actually interviewed Tamerlan and other household members at least three times in 2011. Further requests to the F.S.B. for details went unanswered. Other than putting Tamerlan under 24-hour surveillance, it is difficult to ascertain what more the F.B.I. could have done — according to Gessen, Russia routinely presumes all young urban Muslim men to be radical.

    If you separate the ugly dyke-dyke bitching, the message is that as long as the appropriate boxes are checked, no need to worry if anyone is doing a good job.

    • Replies: @Anon7
    "Other than putting Tamerlan under 24-hour surveillance, it is difficult to ascertain what more the F.B.I. could have done..."

    Deportation? Just a thought. Oops, they've been made naturalized citizens. If abortion is legal, how about "denaturalization" for immigrants who turn out to be lousy citizens?

    Hey, I just made that up, but it turns out that denaturalization is a "thing" as my daughter would say:

    Denaturalization is how the US government revokes or cancels your US citizenship because you've done something that's contrary to being a US citizen. There are several things that can jeopardize your citizenship:

    - Concealing facts or lying to the immigration officials
    - Refusing to testify before the US Congress
    - Joining certain organizations
    - Receiving certain military discharges
     
    Get that process warmed up, G-men!
    , @Steve Sailer
    Tamerlan Tsarnaev was a former in-law of Graham E. Fuller, a prominent retired CIA man who had been involved in Iran-Contra and had been the CIA station chief in Kabul.

    Tamerlan's Uncle Ruslan is a little bit like Imam Gulen of Turkey: a guy who could, in the fullness of time, wind up in a West Asian government, which would be nice because the U.S. Government has done him a lot of favors and presumably he'd do U.S. interests some favors if he someday became, say, Energy Minister of an independent Chechnya.
    , @Bugg
    Scarier appears that despite the images of the bombers being everywhere in the media for several days after the Marathon bombing, there was no identification of the Tsarnaevs until phone calls from the public did in fact identify them. So despite several FBI agents from the Boston office interviewing them prior to that at least 3 times. and the Tsarnaevs living within a very limited radius out from the bombing location, NOBODY in the FBI's Boston office knew who these guys were until the rest of us did.This is the federal government's own statements. Recall Zacairais Mossoui's capture prior to 9/11. Despite knowing that he might be part of a terror plot, the agent in charge ...wrote a very long hand-wringing memo.Yes, trust these guys with vetting Syrian refugees.In law enforcement circles this is why FBI stands for FAMOUS BUT INCOMPETENT.
  68. @Tiny Duck
    Most white New Yorkers have never understood how humiliating and devastating the stop and frisk policies were for African-Americans. That unconstitutional policy was the main reason black New Yorkers voted for the mayor in the numbers they did and why they will continue to support him. Unfortunately, that willful ignorance and inability to "see" the lives of those without privilege will ultimately destroy us a city and doom us a nation.

    But the white perception of safety in New York is a different story. This has to simply be called for what it is--clear unconscious racial bias. These same New Yorkers felt safe when there were 700,000 stop and frisks of black and Latino youth by the police every years under Bloomberg. That made them "feel" safe even though the cost of those draconian policies was being born by their fellow New Yorkers who happened not to be white. It didn't matter that these stops affected everyone who was black or brown, middle class or poor, projects or downtown. If you weren't white you were a suspect or potential suspect.

    I'm sorry white voters "feel unsafe," even though the data says otherwise. But I'm not prepared to give up my rights to satisfy their perceptions. At least on this point it's not de Blasio's fault. New York for all its liberal veneer has an undercurrent of racial discrimination that these surveys simply bear out.

    Anybody pining for Giuliani has a short attention span. Anybody pining for Bloomberg has too much money. Anybody saying crime is going up needs to look at the statistics. De Blasio is still so much better than the alternatives that we have to give him more of a chance.

    Thanks but I’ll keep on supporting law and order candidates over others who support BLM and other black thug movements and make excuses for the knock-out game.

    There’s a reason why blacks are profiled, it’s because black males take to crime the way other races take to breathing. Crime and indolence comes naturally to the black man, though some would so does whining like a baby.

    They need to be watched and imprisoned as needed.

  69. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Tiny Duck
    Most white New Yorkers have never understood how humiliating and devastating the stop and frisk policies were for African-Americans. That unconstitutional policy was the main reason black New Yorkers voted for the mayor in the numbers they did and why they will continue to support him. Unfortunately, that willful ignorance and inability to "see" the lives of those without privilege will ultimately destroy us a city and doom us a nation.

    But the white perception of safety in New York is a different story. This has to simply be called for what it is--clear unconscious racial bias. These same New Yorkers felt safe when there were 700,000 stop and frisks of black and Latino youth by the police every years under Bloomberg. That made them "feel" safe even though the cost of those draconian policies was being born by their fellow New Yorkers who happened not to be white. It didn't matter that these stops affected everyone who was black or brown, middle class or poor, projects or downtown. If you weren't white you were a suspect or potential suspect.

    I'm sorry white voters "feel unsafe," even though the data says otherwise. But I'm not prepared to give up my rights to satisfy their perceptions. At least on this point it's not de Blasio's fault. New York for all its liberal veneer has an undercurrent of racial discrimination that these surveys simply bear out.

    Anybody pining for Giuliani has a short attention span. Anybody pining for Bloomberg has too much money. Anybody saying crime is going up needs to look at the statistics. De Blasio is still so much better than the alternatives that we have to give him more of a chance.

    I agree that stop and frisk is pretty bad for innocent minorities–not a tragedy but not that great. My white privilege has not stopped cops from being assholes to me, btw, and I don’t like it–but I also move on with my life and a general dislike of 98 iq high school bullies with badges.

    So I agree with you that minorities should be upset and they should do something about it. Ie, minorities should be angry that their fellow minorities won’t stop committing an insane number of crimes and they should clean up their communities and families and demand they stop being such violent criminals.

    • Replies: @jesse helms thinkalike
    I've been saying for decades that the typical cop is a high school bully all grown up with a badge, a gun and an attitude.
    , @Brutusale
    How do the two of you bleeding hearts feel about sobriety checkpoints?
  70. @Jefferson
    I wonder what percentage of my people in NYC voted for Bill De Blasio simply because his last name ends with a vowel? I have a family member who admires Nancy Pelosi simply because she is Italian.

    I wish theyd differentiate betwixt “White” (you know,regular AMERICANS!) and jews. I imagine the latter are much more impressed with this birdbrained clown and his Jeffersons family. Problem is,DeBlasio has a rep as an incompetent who runs on CP time,so maybe the jews are getting tired of his act. Diverse crime seems to fall vastly disproportionately on us than them,so I think their anti-crime boiling point would be much higher.

  71. @Jimi
    DiBlasio also promoted himself as an Italian-American from Brooklyn. A lot of people incorrectly presumed he was an outer-borough ethnic white like Giuliani. This is why he won the majority of Staten Island.

    People didn't realize he was SWPL type of guy form the New Brooklyn.

    Uhm,when they saw his repentant black lesbian wife and his bizarre children,ya think that mightve given them pause? And when he opened his fat mouth and started to emit lefty babble,shouldnt they have listened a bit??

  72. anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Tiny Duck
    Most white New Yorkers have never understood how humiliating and devastating the stop and frisk policies were for African-Americans. That unconstitutional policy was the main reason black New Yorkers voted for the mayor in the numbers they did and why they will continue to support him. Unfortunately, that willful ignorance and inability to "see" the lives of those without privilege will ultimately destroy us a city and doom us a nation.

    But the white perception of safety in New York is a different story. This has to simply be called for what it is--clear unconscious racial bias. These same New Yorkers felt safe when there were 700,000 stop and frisks of black and Latino youth by the police every years under Bloomberg. That made them "feel" safe even though the cost of those draconian policies was being born by their fellow New Yorkers who happened not to be white. It didn't matter that these stops affected everyone who was black or brown, middle class or poor, projects or downtown. If you weren't white you were a suspect or potential suspect.

    I'm sorry white voters "feel unsafe," even though the data says otherwise. But I'm not prepared to give up my rights to satisfy their perceptions. At least on this point it's not de Blasio's fault. New York for all its liberal veneer has an undercurrent of racial discrimination that these surveys simply bear out.

    Anybody pining for Giuliani has a short attention span. Anybody pining for Bloomberg has too much money. Anybody saying crime is going up needs to look at the statistics. De Blasio is still so much better than the alternatives that we have to give him more of a chance.

    I’m sorry white voters “feel unsafe,”

    You’re not sorry at all, you’re just a liar. Maybe you and yours might try to see things from someone else’s point of view someday instead of being totally self-absorbed. But that would be impossible since infantile minds are incapable of anything like that. Yeah, the black homicide rate all across this country is just white people’s “perception”. Just low-grade gibberish.

  73. @WhatEvvs
    There are homeless bums everywhere now. In my neighborhood we have a few harmless dudes who have been around for ages. Everyone knows them. But they've been joined by an army of nasty, dirty, ugly PITAs.

    You remind me of the South Park bit where the guy is on Wheel of Fortune. The puzzle says,”annoying people” and the letters are N_GGERS. The contestant does not get the correct term,which is of course,NAGGERS. Lots of naggers around your place?

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    Sounds like you're projecting. Bums are either frazzled or belligerent, and the racial differences are secondary to the length of time they've been out there. In N. California the rags-and-pushcart set are mostly white and moderately demented (however, it's not uncommon for an able-bodied black in presentable clothing to walk up in a restaurant parking lot and point-blank ask you for money -- they used to waste time with a story but seem to have dropped that). Even derelicts need a social life so after they get done riding the buses all day they tend to congregate near a river bank or public park or anything more aesthetically inspiring than an overpass. This probably works better for them, to the extent it "works" at all, than being an aggressive inimicable Angry Black under the same circumstances. Though in a dense city the solo operator might prosper or beat the odds for a longer time. Last month walking down Spring St in L.A. I saw a shirtless Korean dude sleeping in the middle of the sidewalk at 10am. He might have been a dilettante of course.
    , @WhatEvvs
    No, I mean PITAs. The majority are young, white, druggy looking. They sit with hand-lettered signs, sometimes a pet, that sort of thing. The older guys are about evenly distributed between white & black. The old white bums are as a rule more irascible than the black guys. The latter usually try, through their befuddlement, to be polite. It's pathetic.
  74. @Tiny Duck
    Most white New Yorkers have never understood how humiliating and devastating the stop and frisk policies were for African-Americans. That unconstitutional policy was the main reason black New Yorkers voted for the mayor in the numbers they did and why they will continue to support him. Unfortunately, that willful ignorance and inability to "see" the lives of those without privilege will ultimately destroy us a city and doom us a nation.

    But the white perception of safety in New York is a different story. This has to simply be called for what it is--clear unconscious racial bias. These same New Yorkers felt safe when there were 700,000 stop and frisks of black and Latino youth by the police every years under Bloomberg. That made them "feel" safe even though the cost of those draconian policies was being born by their fellow New Yorkers who happened not to be white. It didn't matter that these stops affected everyone who was black or brown, middle class or poor, projects or downtown. If you weren't white you were a suspect or potential suspect.

    I'm sorry white voters "feel unsafe," even though the data says otherwise. But I'm not prepared to give up my rights to satisfy their perceptions. At least on this point it's not de Blasio's fault. New York for all its liberal veneer has an undercurrent of racial discrimination that these surveys simply bear out.

    Anybody pining for Giuliani has a short attention span. Anybody pining for Bloomberg has too much money. Anybody saying crime is going up needs to look at the statistics. De Blasio is still so much better than the alternatives that we have to give him more of a chance.

    I bet. When it comes to “humiliation” the brothers believe it is better to give than to receive.

  75. @NJ Transit Commuter
    @Dave Pinsen

    De Blasio was elected because the presumed favorite, and Clinton loyalist, Anthony Weiner, got caught for the 2nd time sending compromising selfies of himself to young women. (Apparently NYC voters were OK with the first time). This was shortly before the Democratic Party primary, which served as the actual election as there was no viable Republican running.

    De Blasio's campaign strategy was to repeat endlessly "By the way, did I mention my wife is black, and so are my two kids?" In the minds of Democratic voters in 2013 that qualified him to become the mayor...

    Plus, “Did I mention that my wife is a lesbian?”

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    Plus, “Did I mention that my wife is a lesbian?”
     
    Marriage to DeBlasio would make any wife a lesbian.
  76. U.S. prosecutors in 2012 traced genetic evidence left at the Schilling scene to the true culprit, who died a year earlier. Prosecutors said he was a convicted offender and temporary janitor who had worked in the same building as Schilling. But the U.S. attorney’s office has not identified him by name, arguing that his privacy interests continued beyond his death.

    I guess we know what that means.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/public-safety/dc-police-framed-man-imprisoned-27-years-for-1981-murder-us-jury-finds/2015/11/18/7a454054-8e04-11e5-baf4-bdf37355da0c_story.html

  77. @EriK
    Do you ever get tired of pulling things out of your hat? I do.
    http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/mayor-bloomberg-stop-and-frisk-disproportionately-stop-whites-minorities-article-1.1385410

    Yes, if murderers disproportionately had red hair it would make sense to stop and frisk them in proportion to their numbers in the murder statistics, not the overall population.

    If Muslims disproportionately commit terrorism …

  78. @George
    Inside Las Colonias, the Texas Border Towns Without Electricity or Running Water

    A combination of poverty and loyalty keep families in these hidden slums along the US-Mexico border, often for generations.

    http://www.vice.com/read/inside-colonias-the-texas-border-towns-without-electricity-or-running-water

    I had no idea. The deeper you look into things, the worse it gets. The colonias are a pretty good indicator of what Mexicans build on their own; the third world, right here in the USA.

    I’m going to stop clicking on links now.

  79. OT: I thought I’d alert people to this new(ish) anti-establishment propaganda video by Neel Kolhatkar: Modern Educayshun

    It has 2.5M views on YouTube so needless to say it’s been passed around.

  80. @Lugash
    One of the odd aspects of the Boston bombers was that they were interviewed by the FBI at least three times according the Janet Reno:

    http://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/12/books/review/the-brothers-masha-gessens-book-about-the-boston-marathon-bombers.html?_r=1

    In the course of armchair quarterbacking that followed the bombing, it was revealed that the Russian Federal Security Service, known as the F.S.B., had notified the F.B.I. in 2011 about Tamerlan’s presence in the United States. Although criticized for inadequate follow-up, the F.B.I. actually interviewed Tamerlan and other household members at least three times in 2011. Further requests to the F.S.B. for details went unanswered. Other than putting Tamerlan under 24-hour surveillance, it is difficult to ascertain what more the F.B.I. could have done — according to Gessen, Russia routinely presumes all young urban Muslim men to be radical.
     
    If you separate the ugly dyke-dyke bitching, the message is that as long as the appropriate boxes are checked, no need to worry if anyone is doing a good job.

    “Other than putting Tamerlan under 24-hour surveillance, it is difficult to ascertain what more the F.B.I. could have done…”

    Deportation? Just a thought. Oops, they’ve been made naturalized citizens. If abortion is legal, how about “denaturalization” for immigrants who turn out to be lousy citizens?

    Hey, I just made that up, but it turns out that denaturalization is a “thing” as my daughter would say:

    Denaturalization is how the US government revokes or cancels your US citizenship because you’ve done something that’s contrary to being a US citizen. There are several things that can jeopardize your citizenship:

    – Concealing facts or lying to the immigration officials
    – Refusing to testify before the US Congress
    – Joining certain organizations
    – Receiving certain military discharges

    Get that process warmed up, G-men!

  81. @Ed
    He learned the hard way that you can be progressive in many areas but if you slack in public safety, force poor blacks into white schools or neighborhoods you will lose. To that end:

    http://mobile.nytimes.com/2015/11/19/nyregion/eucation-department-drops-proposal-to-rezone-upper-west-side-manhattan-schools.html?_r=0

    “He learned the hard way that you can be progressive in many areas but if you slack in public safety, force poor blacks into white schools or neighborhoods you will lose. To that end:”

    White Leftists in New York City don’t like it when the government tries to force racial integration on them personally. They think the government should only force racial integration on red state Whites in flyover country.

  82. @Rob McX

    All Christie had to say was that he never wanted to see a picture like that of an American boy.

    Dems are so much better at playing the game.
    Obama’s “GOP afraid of widows and orphans” line.
    GOP to obama: OK, ONLY allow widows and orphans.
    Women have run the social/political show for 40 years, and still do.
    Why do they favor allowing the most patriarchal, woman disrespecting, ignorant,
    incapable of assimilation, breed of savages into our country ?
    Consistent thinking ?

  83. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Father O'Hara
    You remind me of the South Park bit where the guy is on Wheel of Fortune. The puzzle says,"annoying people" and the letters are N_GGERS. The contestant does not get the correct term,which is of course,NAGGERS. Lots of naggers around your place?

    Sounds like you’re projecting. Bums are either frazzled or belligerent, and the racial differences are secondary to the length of time they’ve been out there. In N. California the rags-and-pushcart set are mostly white and moderately demented (however, it’s not uncommon for an able-bodied black in presentable clothing to walk up in a restaurant parking lot and point-blank ask you for money — they used to waste time with a story but seem to have dropped that). Even derelicts need a social life so after they get done riding the buses all day they tend to congregate near a river bank or public park or anything more aesthetically inspiring than an overpass. This probably works better for them, to the extent it “works” at all, than being an aggressive inimicable Angry Black under the same circumstances. Though in a dense city the solo operator might prosper or beat the odds for a longer time. Last month walking down Spring St in L.A. I saw a shirtless Korean dude sleeping in the middle of the sidewalk at 10am. He might have been a dilettante of course.

  84. @Jefferson
    Do the majority of Asian Americans in NYC still support Bill De Blasio? If they do, that would surprise me because Asians are not disproportionately effected by Stop & Frisk. I understand why most African Americans, Jamaicans, Puerto Ricans, and Dominicans in NYC would still support De Blasio, because they are disproportionately stopped and frisked.

    >>> Puerto Ricans […] in NYC would still support De Blasio, because they are disproportionately stopped and frisked.

    My impression is that nowadays, most P.Ricans under the age of 40, are FULLY bilingual, and run conservative.

    Just as “white nationalist” -minded white guys don’t really give much thought to how curly/kinky their own hair is….. lots of Hispanics don’t identify with their skin color, even if it be rather dark. In their own minds, their ethnicity is Spanish.

    Dominicanos are WELL aware in that “back home”, P.Rican guys are =totally= into the cheap 30-minute hop to SantoDomingo for the weekend, to get some inexpensive Dominicana pussy.

  85. @Lugash
    One of the odd aspects of the Boston bombers was that they were interviewed by the FBI at least three times according the Janet Reno:

    http://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/12/books/review/the-brothers-masha-gessens-book-about-the-boston-marathon-bombers.html?_r=1

    In the course of armchair quarterbacking that followed the bombing, it was revealed that the Russian Federal Security Service, known as the F.S.B., had notified the F.B.I. in 2011 about Tamerlan’s presence in the United States. Although criticized for inadequate follow-up, the F.B.I. actually interviewed Tamerlan and other household members at least three times in 2011. Further requests to the F.S.B. for details went unanswered. Other than putting Tamerlan under 24-hour surveillance, it is difficult to ascertain what more the F.B.I. could have done — according to Gessen, Russia routinely presumes all young urban Muslim men to be radical.
     
    If you separate the ugly dyke-dyke bitching, the message is that as long as the appropriate boxes are checked, no need to worry if anyone is doing a good job.

    Tamerlan Tsarnaev was a former in-law of Graham E. Fuller, a prominent retired CIA man who had been involved in Iran-Contra and had been the CIA station chief in Kabul.

    Tamerlan’s Uncle Ruslan is a little bit like Imam Gulen of Turkey: a guy who could, in the fullness of time, wind up in a West Asian government, which would be nice because the U.S. Government has done him a lot of favors and presumably he’d do U.S. interests some favors if he someday became, say, Energy Minister of an independent Chechnya.

  86. This Sunday at 8 on CNN they will air The Hunting Ground staring Haven Monahan.

  87. @The Anti-Gnostic
    What are "PITAs?"

    urbandictionary.com is your friend. It has more than you will ever want to know.

  88. Less than a million non-Jewish whites live in NYC, in a city of 7 million.

  89. WhatEvvs [AKA "Internet Addict"] says:
    @Father O'Hara
    You remind me of the South Park bit where the guy is on Wheel of Fortune. The puzzle says,"annoying people" and the letters are N_GGERS. The contestant does not get the correct term,which is of course,NAGGERS. Lots of naggers around your place?

    No, I mean PITAs. The majority are young, white, druggy looking. They sit with hand-lettered signs, sometimes a pet, that sort of thing. The older guys are about evenly distributed between white & black. The old white bums are as a rule more irascible than the black guys. The latter usually try, through their befuddlement, to be polite. It’s pathetic.

  90. WhatEvvs [AKA "Internet Addict"] says:
    @Bugg
    Unreported story is that DiBlasio is trying to rezone huge chunks of middle class Brooklyn, Staten Island, the Bronx and Queens to build "Affordable Senior Housing". The "Senior" element is marketing. Most seniors either have enough money to live here or move down south, black or white. Once the buildings go up, they'll be dumped into the NYC Housing Authority, which is already mismanaged. As other cities get rid of projects and are going with the Section 8 model, Diblasio doubles down on the failed model. The City Planning Commission claims there is a dire need for all this, but really, how many more people do we need here who don't work nor pay taxes. Been to several community meetings in Brooklyn and Queens. NOBODY of any color wants any more public housing. And they especially do not want 6- story ugly monstrosities filled with criminals, moochers and nonhackers turning their car-friendly 1 and 2 family low rise neighborhoods into shitholes.

    Back in the day, Don Trump offered to buy the projects from the city for a flat fee. Needless to say he was turned out. It’s insane that so much real estate is in effect a subsidized no go zone. Remember the crazy dude with the tiger in the 4 bedroom in Harlem?

  91. A so-called “hate crime” occurred at Harvard Law School. Portraits of Black professors were covered in black tape.
    http://finance.yahoo.com/news/photos-black-tenured-professors-harvard-181158110.html

    I am sure Black Lies Matter will say this “Tape Gate” incident is a trillion times worst than the Islamic terrorist attacks in Paris that left 129 mostly White people dead.

  92. WhatEvvs [AKA "Internet Addict"] says:
    @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
    To put it bluntly: if a GOP NYC Mayoral candidate promises to bring back "Stop and Frisk" policies, perhaps he has a shot at winning the election. Maybe a "draft Bloomberg" is in order at this point.

    Not that anyone is supposed to notice that S&F might reduce the number of increasing criminal acts, but there it is.

    Bloomberg? If nominated he will not run, if elected he will not serve. He is not coming back and S+F is a political dead letter. A Republican candidate might win on a “crack down on crime and clean up the streets” platform but no one is bringing back S+F.

  93. WhatEvvs [AKA "Internet Addict"] says:

    Please be nicer to NYers about the Romney thing. He was an abysmal candidate. Thank you.

    • Replies: @SFG
    Yeah, but it's still dependably one of the most liberal municipalities in the country.

    I used to live there, I remember.
  94. @Lugash
    One of the odd aspects of the Boston bombers was that they were interviewed by the FBI at least three times according the Janet Reno:

    http://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/12/books/review/the-brothers-masha-gessens-book-about-the-boston-marathon-bombers.html?_r=1

    In the course of armchair quarterbacking that followed the bombing, it was revealed that the Russian Federal Security Service, known as the F.S.B., had notified the F.B.I. in 2011 about Tamerlan’s presence in the United States. Although criticized for inadequate follow-up, the F.B.I. actually interviewed Tamerlan and other household members at least three times in 2011. Further requests to the F.S.B. for details went unanswered. Other than putting Tamerlan under 24-hour surveillance, it is difficult to ascertain what more the F.B.I. could have done — according to Gessen, Russia routinely presumes all young urban Muslim men to be radical.
     
    If you separate the ugly dyke-dyke bitching, the message is that as long as the appropriate boxes are checked, no need to worry if anyone is doing a good job.

    Scarier appears that despite the images of the bombers being everywhere in the media for several days after the Marathon bombing, there was no identification of the Tsarnaevs until phone calls from the public did in fact identify them. So despite several FBI agents from the Boston office interviewing them prior to that at least 3 times. and the Tsarnaevs living within a very limited radius out from the bombing location, NOBODY in the FBI’s Boston office knew who these guys were until the rest of us did.This is the federal government’s own statements. Recall Zacairais Mossoui’s capture prior to 9/11. Despite knowing that he might be part of a terror plot, the agent in charge …wrote a very long hand-wringing memo.Yes, trust these guys with vetting Syrian refugees.In law enforcement circles this is why FBI stands for FAMOUS BUT INCOMPETENT.

    • Replies: @Old fogey
    Looking at all the evidence, doesn't it seem that the Tsarnaevs were just too damn close to the federal establishment to begin with? Perhaps the theorists were right, and there actually was a conspiracy in Boston.
  95. @WhatEvvs
    Please be nicer to NYers about the Romney thing. He was an abysmal candidate. Thank you.

    Yeah, but it’s still dependably one of the most liberal municipalities in the country.

    I used to live there, I remember.

    • Replies: @WhatEvvs
    Please. I was joking. You can bash NYC all you like. I voted for Romney, Lhota....I'm as in the closet as a gay communist in 1952.

    Also - Romney was a terrible candidate!
  96. @Tiny Duck
    Most white New Yorkers have never understood how humiliating and devastating the stop and frisk policies were for African-Americans. That unconstitutional policy was the main reason black New Yorkers voted for the mayor in the numbers they did and why they will continue to support him. Unfortunately, that willful ignorance and inability to "see" the lives of those without privilege will ultimately destroy us a city and doom us a nation.

    But the white perception of safety in New York is a different story. This has to simply be called for what it is--clear unconscious racial bias. These same New Yorkers felt safe when there were 700,000 stop and frisks of black and Latino youth by the police every years under Bloomberg. That made them "feel" safe even though the cost of those draconian policies was being born by their fellow New Yorkers who happened not to be white. It didn't matter that these stops affected everyone who was black or brown, middle class or poor, projects or downtown. If you weren't white you were a suspect or potential suspect.

    I'm sorry white voters "feel unsafe," even though the data says otherwise. But I'm not prepared to give up my rights to satisfy their perceptions. At least on this point it's not de Blasio's fault. New York for all its liberal veneer has an undercurrent of racial discrimination that these surveys simply bear out.

    Anybody pining for Giuliani has a short attention span. Anybody pining for Bloomberg has too much money. Anybody saying crime is going up needs to look at the statistics. De Blasio is still so much better than the alternatives that we have to give him more of a chance.

    Most white New Yorkers have never understood how humiliating and devastating the stop and frisk policies were for African-Americans… blah blah blah.

    Thank you for beginning your morally preening post with a trigger warning, letting me know right at the start that everything following would be fallacious, bed-wetting hysteria.

  97. @Evocatus
    Looking at this map of the 2013 election, it appears that most of the remaining Italian neighborhoods in the five boroughs (Bay Ridge/Dyker Heights in Brooklyn, Howard Beach and Middle Village in Queens, Morris Park in the Bronx and the South Shore of Staten Island) voted for Lhota, who is partly Italian himself. And De Blasio isn't Kaiser Wilhelm's real name anyway.

    http://www.nytimes.com/projects/elections/2013/general/nyc-mayor/map.html

    Bay Ridge was never a traditionally Italian neighborhood. It was once heavily Scandinavian, while today it’s mainly mixed with a large Arab population.

    Peter

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    Isn't Bay Ridge the setting for "Saturday Night Fever?"
    , @Reg Cæsar

    Bay Ridge was never a traditionally Italian neighborhood. It was once heavily Scandinavian…
     
    How many prominent Scandinavian New Yorkers (as in NYC) can you name? Let's see… Jacob Riis (an immigrant), Harry Nilsson… anyone in between? Former Governor Arne Carlson, but he had to move to Minnesota to get elected. Axel Stordahl, Frank Sinatra's musical director, was from Staten Island. Oh, and the Swede the Bronx was named after, 350+ years ago.

    Any others come to mind? Doesn't seem too productive a community. Scarlett Johansson is too young, too mixed, and too spoiled to count.
  98. @prosa123
    Bay Ridge was never a traditionally Italian neighborhood. It was once heavily Scandinavian, while today it's mainly mixed with a large Arab population.

    Peter

    Isn’t Bay Ridge the setting for “Saturday Night Fever?”

    • Replies: @Bugg
    It was. At that time it was Italian/Irish/secular Jewish with a few old Norwegians. It's become so Arab it's new nickname is "Beirut" rather than Bay Ridge.
    , @candid_observer
    I looked on Wikepedia and the movie set Tony Molinaro's neighborhood in Bay Ridge.

    But a lot of the scenes were actually filmed in Bensonhurst, which is a lot more the core of the Italian thing in Brooklyn. Molinaro would probably fit in a lot better in Bensonhurst. My sense of Bay Ridge has always been that it's a lot more upscale than Bensonhurst -- or at least it's got its upscale neighborhoods.

    Oddly, today Bensonhurst is turning pretty heavily Hasidic, or other variants on the same theme.

  99. @Bugg
    Unreported story is that DiBlasio is trying to rezone huge chunks of middle class Brooklyn, Staten Island, the Bronx and Queens to build "Affordable Senior Housing". The "Senior" element is marketing. Most seniors either have enough money to live here or move down south, black or white. Once the buildings go up, they'll be dumped into the NYC Housing Authority, which is already mismanaged. As other cities get rid of projects and are going with the Section 8 model, Diblasio doubles down on the failed model. The City Planning Commission claims there is a dire need for all this, but really, how many more people do we need here who don't work nor pay taxes. Been to several community meetings in Brooklyn and Queens. NOBODY of any color wants any more public housing. And they especially do not want 6- story ugly monstrosities filled with criminals, moochers and nonhackers turning their car-friendly 1 and 2 family low rise neighborhoods into shitholes.

    Projects are in the ghetto, Section 8 turns working and lower middle class neighborhoods into ghetto. Few programs have done as much to ruin decent, inexpensive neighborhoods.

    • Replies: @jesse helms thinkalike
    Section 8 housing can turn any cheap apartments into a ghetto as bad as the most infamous housing projects. Liberals love the ability to turn formerly low income working class neighborhoods into indigent slums. These apartment complexes are generally chock full of single mothers and young thugs waiting for their EBT to recharge. In this sense housing projects are preferable for society at large because they keep lowlifes segregated from taxpayers.
  100. @Anonymous
    I agree that stop and frisk is pretty bad for innocent minorities--not a tragedy but not that great. My white privilege has not stopped cops from being assholes to me, btw, and I don't like it--but I also move on with my life and a general dislike of 98 iq high school bullies with badges.


    So I agree with you that minorities should be upset and they should do something about it. Ie, minorities should be angry that their fellow minorities won't stop committing an insane number of crimes and they should clean up their communities and families and demand they stop being such violent criminals.

    I’ve been saying for decades that the typical cop is a high school bully all grown up with a badge, a gun and an attitude.

  101. @Steve Richter
    The big story in the entire tri state area is the rents are going sky high. Brooklyn and Queens are bursting with immigrants. The NYC population is pushing out throughout the region.

    The big story in the entire tri state area is the rents are going sky high. Brooklyn and Queens are bursting with immigrants.

    Chinese are taking over Queens. It’s a Vancouver Canada situation in parts of Queens. From Korea to Bangladesh, other Asians too are jamming into Queens. Brooklyn has one or two Chinatowns.

  102. @E. Burke
    Projects are in the ghetto, Section 8 turns working and lower middle class neighborhoods into ghetto. Few programs have done as much to ruin decent, inexpensive neighborhoods.

    Section 8 housing can turn any cheap apartments into a ghetto as bad as the most infamous housing projects. Liberals love the ability to turn formerly low income working class neighborhoods into indigent slums. These apartment complexes are generally chock full of single mothers and young thugs waiting for their EBT to recharge. In this sense housing projects are preferable for society at large because they keep lowlifes segregated from taxpayers.

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
    You are quite right. I'd prefer the projects - somewhere else - to having section 8 units in my own neighborhood.
  103. @Rob McX

    That photo of the dead toddler has been shown to be staged. The body was found wedged in some rocks on the shoreline and then moved; hair and clothes were arranged and the body was positioned for the best photo.

    http://www.conspiracy-cafe.com/apps/blog/show/43523758-was-the-world-s-most-chilling-image-a-fake-

    • Replies: @Rob McX
    I didn't know that. And it also appears that his father was part of a people-smuggling ring and was ferrying other passengers for money on the same boat as his family when it capsized.
  104. @Tiny Duck
    Most white New Yorkers have never understood how humiliating and devastating the stop and frisk policies were for African-Americans. That unconstitutional policy was the main reason black New Yorkers voted for the mayor in the numbers they did and why they will continue to support him. Unfortunately, that willful ignorance and inability to "see" the lives of those without privilege will ultimately destroy us a city and doom us a nation.

    But the white perception of safety in New York is a different story. This has to simply be called for what it is--clear unconscious racial bias. These same New Yorkers felt safe when there were 700,000 stop and frisks of black and Latino youth by the police every years under Bloomberg. That made them "feel" safe even though the cost of those draconian policies was being born by their fellow New Yorkers who happened not to be white. It didn't matter that these stops affected everyone who was black or brown, middle class or poor, projects or downtown. If you weren't white you were a suspect or potential suspect.

    I'm sorry white voters "feel unsafe," even though the data says otherwise. But I'm not prepared to give up my rights to satisfy their perceptions. At least on this point it's not de Blasio's fault. New York for all its liberal veneer has an undercurrent of racial discrimination that these surveys simply bear out.

    Anybody pining for Giuliani has a short attention span. Anybody pining for Bloomberg has too much money. Anybody saying crime is going up needs to look at the statistics. De Blasio is still so much better than the alternatives that we have to give him more of a chance.

    “Unfortunately, that willful ignorance and inability to “see” the lives of those without privilege will ultimately destroy us a city and doom us a nation.

    Ignorance and inability to see the lives of others – sounds like BLM protestors.

    By the way, I am sympathetic to your objection to stop-and-frisk policies. I wouldn’t want it for whites, so I can certainly understand that responsible blacks and hispanics wouldn’t want it for them either. If we, as a society, were able to be honest about crime – about who tends to commit it and why – those people in New York might not feel that such an intrusive policy is necessary to “feel safe”, as you put it.

  105. @jesse helms thinkalike
    Section 8 housing can turn any cheap apartments into a ghetto as bad as the most infamous housing projects. Liberals love the ability to turn formerly low income working class neighborhoods into indigent slums. These apartment complexes are generally chock full of single mothers and young thugs waiting for their EBT to recharge. In this sense housing projects are preferable for society at large because they keep lowlifes segregated from taxpayers.

    You are quite right. I’d prefer the projects – somewhere else – to having section 8 units in my own neighborhood.

  106. @jesse helms thinkalike
    That photo of the dead toddler has been shown to be staged. The body was found wedged in some rocks on the shoreline and then moved; hair and clothes were arranged and the body was positioned for the best photo.


    http://www.conspiracy-cafe.com/apps/blog/show/43523758-was-the-world-s-most-chilling-image-a-fake-

    I didn’t know that. And it also appears that his father was part of a people-smuggling ring and was ferrying other passengers for money on the same boat as his family when it capsized.

  107. WhatEvvs [AKA "Internet Addict"] says:
    @SFG
    Yeah, but it's still dependably one of the most liberal municipalities in the country.

    I used to live there, I remember.

    Please. I was joking. You can bash NYC all you like. I voted for Romney, Lhota….I’m as in the closet as a gay communist in 1952.

    Also – Romney was a terrible candidate!

    • Replies: @SFG
    I registered to vote specifically to vote for Rudy Giuliani. So, yeah.

    (I was out of the closet, but too young for anyone to care.)

    And yeah, Romney sucked. He didn't give us a phone. (google it!)
  108. @Steve Sailer
    Isn't Bay Ridge the setting for "Saturday Night Fever?"

    It was. At that time it was Italian/Irish/secular Jewish with a few old Norwegians. It’s become so Arab it’s new nickname is “Beirut” rather than Bay Ridge.

  109. @Bugg
    Scarier appears that despite the images of the bombers being everywhere in the media for several days after the Marathon bombing, there was no identification of the Tsarnaevs until phone calls from the public did in fact identify them. So despite several FBI agents from the Boston office interviewing them prior to that at least 3 times. and the Tsarnaevs living within a very limited radius out from the bombing location, NOBODY in the FBI's Boston office knew who these guys were until the rest of us did.This is the federal government's own statements. Recall Zacairais Mossoui's capture prior to 9/11. Despite knowing that he might be part of a terror plot, the agent in charge ...wrote a very long hand-wringing memo.Yes, trust these guys with vetting Syrian refugees.In law enforcement circles this is why FBI stands for FAMOUS BUT INCOMPETENT.

    Looking at all the evidence, doesn’t it seem that the Tsarnaevs were just too damn close to the federal establishment to begin with? Perhaps the theorists were right, and there actually was a conspiracy in Boston.

  110. @Steve Sailer
    Isn't Bay Ridge the setting for "Saturday Night Fever?"

    I looked on Wikepedia and the movie set Tony Molinaro’s neighborhood in Bay Ridge.

    But a lot of the scenes were actually filmed in Bensonhurst, which is a lot more the core of the Italian thing in Brooklyn. Molinaro would probably fit in a lot better in Bensonhurst. My sense of Bay Ridge has always been that it’s a lot more upscale than Bensonhurst — or at least it’s got its upscale neighborhoods.

    Oddly, today Bensonhurst is turning pretty heavily Hasidic, or other variants on the same theme.

  111. @WhatEvvs
    Please. I was joking. You can bash NYC all you like. I voted for Romney, Lhota....I'm as in the closet as a gay communist in 1952.

    Also - Romney was a terrible candidate!

    I registered to vote specifically to vote for Rudy Giuliani. So, yeah.

    (I was out of the closet, but too young for anyone to care.)

    And yeah, Romney sucked. He didn’t give us a phone. (google it!)

  112. Given his birth name, I think we should all start referring to De Blasio as ‘Kaiser Wilhelm’.

  113. @Jim Don Bob
    Plus, "Did I mention that my wife is a lesbian?"

    Plus, “Did I mention that my wife is a lesbian?”

    Marriage to DeBlasio would make any wife a lesbian.

  114. @prosa123
    Bay Ridge was never a traditionally Italian neighborhood. It was once heavily Scandinavian, while today it's mainly mixed with a large Arab population.

    Peter

    Bay Ridge was never a traditionally Italian neighborhood. It was once heavily Scandinavian…

    How many prominent Scandinavian New Yorkers (as in NYC) can you name? Let’s see… Jacob Riis (an immigrant), Harry Nilsson… anyone in between? Former Governor Arne Carlson, but he had to move to Minnesota to get elected. Axel Stordahl, Frank Sinatra’s musical director, was from Staten Island. Oh, and the Swede the Bronx was named after, 350+ years ago.

    Any others come to mind? Doesn’t seem too productive a community. Scarlett Johansson is too young, too mixed, and too spoiled to count.

    • Replies: @5371
    You forgot Häagen-Dazs.
  115. @Gaius Baltar
    White New Yorkers really enjoy being a tiny, enlightened elite in a sea of diversity (outside of their neighborhood of course). On the one hand, they are shielded from the unwashed masses in their expensive enclaves that keep non-whites out. On the other hand, they enjoy the fact that, at any time, they can venture outside of their enclave to spend a time at any of the higher scale "authentic" ethnic restaurants and experience diversity in small doses.

    They also like SEEING diversity in the abstract (e.g., food vendors, cab drivers) but not having to deal with the realities of it (crime, poor services, corruption). DeBlasio threatens to bring the latter because he is going past lip service to diversity and actually working to erase the segregation in the schools and neighborhoods, AND making them less safe by not enforcing the law against criminal blacks.

    You might be able to keep diversity out of your ridiculously expensive apartment building, but to really insulate yourself from it you basically have to give up on all the benefits of a walkable city. You need to drive (or be driven) everywhere. Every aspect of your daily routine becomes a constant reminder of your hypocrisy.

    The SJWs who can’t afford to live like that become as hardened as anyone else. Putting on a resting bitch face while walking past a beggar. On a subway train on their way to a diversity seminar, frowning and staring off into space pretending not to notice, how do you say, youths acting out. (Those moments are even more entertaining when an announcement comes on the loudspeaker reminding everybody that it is, in fact, against the law to assault transit workers.)

    After only a few days in this city I began to seriously wonder how people manage to remain so liberal here.

  116. @Reg Cæsar

    Bay Ridge was never a traditionally Italian neighborhood. It was once heavily Scandinavian…
     
    How many prominent Scandinavian New Yorkers (as in NYC) can you name? Let's see… Jacob Riis (an immigrant), Harry Nilsson… anyone in between? Former Governor Arne Carlson, but he had to move to Minnesota to get elected. Axel Stordahl, Frank Sinatra's musical director, was from Staten Island. Oh, and the Swede the Bronx was named after, 350+ years ago.

    Any others come to mind? Doesn't seem too productive a community. Scarlett Johansson is too young, too mixed, and too spoiled to count.

    You forgot Häagen-Dazs.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    You forgot Häagen-Dazs
     
    That name has as much connection to Scandinavia as high-fructose corn syrup has to honey from the bee.
  117. @Jefferson
    Two police officers kill an unarmed Black thug in Minnesota.
    http://www.businessinsider.com/minnesota-identified-police-officers-involved-in-jamar-clark-shooting-2015-11

    It is not getting round the clock nationwide media coverage like Ferguson and Baltimore for example. My first theory is that it is bad timing, meaning ISIS for the time being is going to overshadow anything involving Hussein Obama's sons violently clashing with police officers. My second theory is the Left Wing media has milked these stories to death, so the silent majority are no longer emotionally invested in these incidents. The Left Wing has over saturated these stories.

    It is not getting round the clock nationwide media coverage like Ferguson and Baltimore for example.

    I haven’t watched TV in well over a decade (always hated commercials, laugh tracks make me violent, and concluded Fox News was just leftists telling conservatives what to think), but when I search “Jamar” I get as many hits as I used to get for any of the previous permanently reformed African criminals. https://duckduckgo.com/?q=jamar+clark. I doubt I’m alone insofar as being completely bored by this nonsense. Wake me up when we are ready to seriously and pragmatically address Africans’ refusal to accept Western norms of civil behavior.

  118. @Tiny Duck
    Most white New Yorkers have never understood how humiliating and devastating the stop and frisk policies were for African-Americans. That unconstitutional policy was the main reason black New Yorkers voted for the mayor in the numbers they did and why they will continue to support him. Unfortunately, that willful ignorance and inability to "see" the lives of those without privilege will ultimately destroy us a city and doom us a nation.

    But the white perception of safety in New York is a different story. This has to simply be called for what it is--clear unconscious racial bias. These same New Yorkers felt safe when there were 700,000 stop and frisks of black and Latino youth by the police every years under Bloomberg. That made them "feel" safe even though the cost of those draconian policies was being born by their fellow New Yorkers who happened not to be white. It didn't matter that these stops affected everyone who was black or brown, middle class or poor, projects or downtown. If you weren't white you were a suspect or potential suspect.

    I'm sorry white voters "feel unsafe," even though the data says otherwise. But I'm not prepared to give up my rights to satisfy their perceptions. At least on this point it's not de Blasio's fault. New York for all its liberal veneer has an undercurrent of racial discrimination that these surveys simply bear out.

    Anybody pining for Giuliani has a short attention span. Anybody pining for Bloomberg has too much money. Anybody saying crime is going up needs to look at the statistics. De Blasio is still so much better than the alternatives that we have to give him more of a chance.

    “Most white New Yorkers have never understood how humiliating and devastating the stop and frisk policies were for African-Americans”

    How could we not know? Blacks complained about it constantly. I know how they felt, I just don’t care.

    “That made them “feel” safe even though the cost of those draconian policies was being born by their fellow New Yorkers who happened not to be white”

    Most black New Yorkers are not my “fellow” anything. They are people that reside in the same area in which I work. They’re not my people, I have nothing in common with them, and don’t want to be around them. Assuming you’re one of them, you and your “fellow” African-Americans go to great lengths to be different, to violate most white social norms, and to generally be as rude and as obnoxious as possible. You can’t simultaneously put great effort into being oppositional, then play the “fellow New Yorker” card.

    You wanted to be different. Okay, now you get treated as if you’re different. Quit whining about it.

  119. @5371
    You forgot Häagen-Dazs.

    You forgot Häagen-Dazs

    That name has as much connection to Scandinavia as high-fructose corn syrup has to honey from the bee.

  120. @Anonymous
    I agree that stop and frisk is pretty bad for innocent minorities--not a tragedy but not that great. My white privilege has not stopped cops from being assholes to me, btw, and I don't like it--but I also move on with my life and a general dislike of 98 iq high school bullies with badges.


    So I agree with you that minorities should be upset and they should do something about it. Ie, minorities should be angry that their fellow minorities won't stop committing an insane number of crimes and they should clean up their communities and families and demand they stop being such violent criminals.

    How do the two of you bleeding hearts feel about sobriety checkpoints?

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