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From the Washington Post:

John Tanton, architect of anti-immigration and English-only efforts, dies at 85
By Matt Schudel July 21 at 11:43 AM

John H. Tanton, a Michigan ophthalmologist who was the architect of a national anti-immigration movement that found expression in the policies of the administration of President Trump and who was labeled by watchdog groups as a thinly veiled white nationalist, died July 16 at a nursing center in Petoskey, Mich. He was 85.

A death notice placed by his family with Stone Funeral Homes of Petoskey said he died “after a 16-year battle with Parkinson’s disease.”

Dr. Tanton had a 35-year career as an eye doctor and surgeon in Petoskey, a prosperous resort community of about 6,000 on the shore of Lake Michigan.

These two paragraphs accidentally point out bizarre aspects of the SPLC’s long campaign of demonization of the civic-minded citizen John Tanton as the master puppeteer waging war on the American Dream of Pre-Americans all over the world. He had a good job, but, so far as I know, he wasn’t some kind of billionaire, compared to all the billionaires, like Mark Zuckerberg, the Widow Jobs, and Michael Bloomberg, who donate to promote More Immigration.

Second, Tanton was, we now learn, in fading health for the great majority of this century, which explains why he wasn’t a terribly active figure. I, for example, never met him.

But that doesn’t stop the Washington Post from devoting 1,500 words to how sinister he must have been. If you don’t believe the Washington Post, just ask the SPLC!

From the Annals of Projection:

“The whole idea of people trying to hijack an organization to advance their cause was outrageous,” Carl Pope, a onetime executive director of the Sierra Club, told The Washington Post in 2006.

Uh, Carl, you let David Gelbaum hijack the Sierra Club for $100 million.

… “The people behind U.S. English and FAIR are a bunch of crazies . . . motivated by xenophobia and probably racism” Fernando Oaxaca, a Los Angeles radio station owner and Republican who served in the administration of President Gerald R. Ford, told the Los Angeles Times in 1986.

If you can’t trust a radio station owner, who no doubt benefited from the then-existing affirmative action tax break on radio station sales to a minority, who can you trust?

… In 2002, the Southern Poverty Law Center, which monitors extremist groups, put Dr. Tanton on the cover of one of its publications, calling him the “puppeteer” of the “organized anti-immigration ‘movement’ in America.” The SPLC designated FAIR and the Center for Immigration Studies as hate groups and later added other organizations founded by Dr. Tanton to the list.

Morris Dees … now there’s a trustworthy man.

And here’s the last paragraph of the Post’s obituary:

“It’s sad,” Burns told the Detroit News in 2017. “It’s like a dead cat in a well. It poisons a lot of good water. Tanton has been that cat for 30 years.”

 
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  1. Dave Pinsen says: • Website

    We seem to be at an interesting inflection point on the demographic question, at least rhetorically. For all the hate directed at the late John Tanton, and the organizations he funded, the elephant in the room of course is President Trump.

    Conservativism Inc. is pretending Trump supporters don’t actually want to see Ilhan Omar repatriated to Somalia.

    What Trump could do, which no one else can, is drag inside the Overton window the idea that a nation’s demographic makeup is a political question. Once it becomes safe to ask that question publicly without being dismissed as a racist, the political momentum against America turning into a third world country will be unstoppable, I would think.

  2. So this was the man that the SPLC loved to hate and stir up the good, well enlightened ones that so fervently believe in Open Borders.

    I’m sorry, but it’s so unlike Steve not to have once mentioned the passing of a major political figure such as Ross Perot, and that was only about ten days ago. In many ways, Perot and his Reform Party paved the way for Trump’s 2016 campaign. I honestly don’t know what I’m missing because its so unlike him not to mention at least once, let alone not devote a post to a major figure like Ross Perot, and how he helped to change the political landscape.

    Granted, he was a multi-billionaire. But one who didn’t have the official backing of either of the two parties. Had he chosen a more mainstream VP running mate, and not dropped out for three months of the year to go into seclusion, Perot could easily have gotten upwards of 25-30% of the popular vote (he managed to get 19% of the popular vote, still impressive).

    Receiving 25-30% of the popular vote would then mean he would have garnered some Electoral Votes, which in turn could have then made him a kingmaker as to which major party candidate would receive his electors. In his own small way, the diminutive Texan pretty much demonstrated that the whole Reagan-Bush era wasn’t as popular as GOP partisan/revisionists like to imagine. If in fact a potential one third (one-fifth in actual fact) of the electorate were willing to vote for someone with very little name recognition nationwide (aside from Veterans with the whole Iran rescue mission, Vietnam MIA vets, those peripheral issues that most Americans weren’t studiously following, especially as the years passed by), it clearly demonstrates that Reaganomics wasn’t held in great esteem by most Americans, especially if they were given something approaching a legitimate candidate who held different opinions on the issues.

    It would be like if Nicholas Wade; Bill James; or Malcolm Gladwell were to suddenly pass and no word or mention of it for weeks on end here. And I don’t think that would happen for a second. But come on. Ross Perot. He wasn’t a bum, he was a somebody (also in his own way, a major player outside Silicon Valley who saw the importance of the infant Tech industry and how it would be the US’s future).

    Where am I missing it exactly on this one?

  3. @Dave Pinsen

    Of course, what if with Trump’s questions, some others come up, namely, that Omar’s family might not have gotten here legally? Were they in fact legitimate refugees? Or were they something else? Also, the whole “Did she actually marry her brother or some illegal cousin or something” should be technically a felony, you would think. Which would help serve to at least disqualify her from representing her district in MN.

  4. eah says:

    You should edit your post to include the context/info on Burns.

    This choice passage also captures the tenor (and purpose) of the obit:

    About half of Dr. Tanton’s archives at the University of Michigan are under seal until 2035. In 2016, Hassan Ahmad, an immigration lawyer in Northern Virginia, filed suit to have the documents released, arguing that they are public records of importance to the nation’s civic discourse.

    A Michigan appeals court ruled in Ahmad’s favor in June, but a final judgment has not been made. After reviewing thousands of documents in Dr. Tanton’s archives, Ahmad said in an interview, “I think he’s the architect, the mastermind of an effort to push a vile and white nationalist agenda, and I don’t use those terms lightly.”

  5. Move all the “refugees” into WAPO subscribers’ neighborhoods. Think of all the dynamic entrepreneurs who could help these areas out!

  6. Let us savor the irony here:
    It is Tanton who’s called “puppeteer”
    While the fact that is missing
    Is the cats who are pissing
    In our eyes so we cannot see clear.

    • LOL: M_Young
  7. Moses says:

    “It’s sad,” Burns told the Detroit News in 2017. “It’s like a dead cat in a well. It poisons a lot of good water. Tanton has been that cat for 30 years.”

    When we win, do not forget that these people want you broke, dead, your kids raped and brainwashed, and they think it’s funny.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
  8. @Moses

    I hear that “and they think it’s funny” quote a lot, but I don’t think they have much of a sense of humor.

  9. who was labeled by watchdog groups as a thinly veiled …

    Right. Enough said.

  10. @Yojimbo/Zatoichi

    Scary. I didn’t even know that Ross Perot had died, and I spend hours each day reading the”news”. It’s not you who’s missing something.

    Is it fair to say that Perot may have tipped the 92 election to Clinton? Full disclosure, I voted for him.

  11. Anonymous[413] • Disclaimer says:

    Second, Tanton was, we now learn, in fading health for the great majority of this century, which explains why he wasn’t a terribly active figure. I, for example, never met him.

    Why didn’t you reach out to him, Steve? (Or he to you?)

  12. Anonymous[413] • Disclaimer says:
    @Yojimbo/Zatoichi

    It would be like if Nicholas Wade; Bill James; or Malcolm Gladwell were to suddenly pass and no word or mention of it for weeks on end here. And I don’t think that would happen for a second. But come on. Ross Perot.

    There’s been no mention of Justin Raimondo’s passing, either.

  13. Anonymous[413] • Disclaimer says:
    @Dave Pinsen

    What Trump could do, which no one else can, is drag inside the Overton window the idea that a nation’s demographic makeup is a political question. Once it becomes safe to ask that question publicly without being dismissed as a racist, the political momentum against America turning into a third world country will be unstoppable, I would think.

    Interesting comment.

  14. So Petoskey blessed us with an immigration patriot, Kilwin’s Chocolates, and Petoskey Stones. God bless Petoskey, and God rest Mr. Tanton’s soul.

    • Agree: slumber_j
  15. @Dave Pinsen

    What Trump could do, which no one else can, is drag inside the Overton window the idea that a nation’s demographic makeup is a political question.

    This is the power or tipping point idea.
    Then there is “the drilling of thick boards” (Sociologist Max Weber).
    (These two aspects are of course not mutually exclusive).

  16. @Yojimbo/Zatoichi

    Were they in fact legitimate refugees?

    Let’s stop kidding ourselves: Nearly every person admitted as a refugee to the US in the past fifty years has transited a “safe” country, at which point they stopped being refugees.

  17. @Dave Pinsen

    … a nation’s demographic makeup is a political question. Once it becomes safe to ask that question publicly without being dismissed as a racist …

    Dave, you’re behind the times. In mainstream media outlets like the NYT and PBS, so far it has been safe to not only ask, but celebrate that question.

    http://www.unz.com/isteve/nyt-we-can-replace-them/

    Wikipedia:

    America By The Numbers with Maria Hinojosa: Clarkston Georgia is the story of a small town of 7,500 people that has gone from being 90% white in the 1980s to less than 14% white today. Located in the shadow of Stone Mountain, once a gathering place for Ku Klux Klan cross burnings, today Clarkston, Georgia is home to thousands of refugees from Vietnam, Somalia, Iraq and Bhutan – along with some 40 other countries. The program is a look at one of the most diverse communities in America and how changing demographics are reshaping the political landscape in America.

    • Replies: @Dave Pinsen
  18. guest says:

    “labelled by watchdog groups as a thinly veiled white nationalist”

    Who wants to bet that’s not even true?

    How exactly is “thinly veiled white nationalist” a label, anyway? No one has ever labelled anyone as such.

  19. JackOH says:

    John Tanton? Never heard of him, which doesn’t mean much. But, a hit job disguised as an obit? Fucking slobs.

    How ’bout: “John Tanton, architect of immigration restraint and common American language efforts, dies at 85.”

    • Agree: donut
  20. guest says:
    @Dave Pinsen

    I agree with Brit, but for the opposite reason. The backlash is overblown because she should go back. I wish we all wanted her to go back, including herself.

    • Replies: @Dave Pinsen
  21. guest says:
    @Steve Sailer

    Well, people with no sense of humor still laugh. Only in bad taste.

  22. JimB says:

    As Peter Brimelow says, America will end in tears. I hate living through it.

    • Replies: @Hail
  23. Dave Pinsen says: • Website
    @HammerJack

    Nice story about Perot that came out after he passed.

    • Replies: @South Texas Guy
    , @Romanian
  24. That is unfortunate. Right up there with Justice Ginsburg’s comments about how thankful she was that Justice Scalia had passed away.

    These are the advocates for a more diverse community, ever grateful for the passing of conservatives or those who place country about their personal agendas. I suspect that among the democrats and liberals there is no more befitting existence for any conservative but

    professional destruction and death.

    That sentiment expressed from the hearts of their leadership. But if your highest priority is making sure murdering children in the womb — remains legal, one should not be surprised.

    • Replies: @bomag
    , @Joseph Doaks
  25. anonymous[101] • Disclaimer says:
    @Yojimbo/Zatoichi

    Perot would have won if he hadn’t temporarily dropped out.

    • Replies: @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
  26. @Dave Pinsen

    I don’t do tweets, but, Brit Hume: I am NO ONE!

  27. @Yojimbo/Zatoichi

    Please note, Yojimbo, that Peak Stupidity DID mention the passing of H. Ross Perot. BTW, regarding his VP-candidate pick, I don’t think Admiral Stockdale was so unconventional – he just came across poorly during the VP debate is all. I saw it.

    RIP H. Ross Perot

    and

    RIP, Mr. John Tanton, who proves that the little guy CAN make a difference. Peak Stupidity only dreams of being on a list maintained by the $PLC.

    • Replies: @SFG
    , @istevefan
    , @MBlanc46
  28. Dave Pinsen says: • Website
    @Jenner Ickham Errican

    Dave, you’re behind the times. In mainstream media outlets like the NYT and PBS, so far it has been safe to not only ask, but celebrate that question.

    how changing demographics are reshaping the political landscape in America.

    is not what I mean when I say “a nation’s demographic makeup is a political question”. What I mean is that what a nation’s demographic makeup will be is a political question. The mainstream media has treated current trends as inevitable for years. They are not. They are the result of political decisions, just like America’s demographic makeup circa 1960 was the result of political decisions.

  29. Anonymous[413] • Disclaimer says:
    @Dave Pinsen

    The mainstream media has treated current trends as inevitable for years. They are not. They are the result of political decisions, just like America’s demographic makeup circa 1960 was the result of political decisions.

    Good points.

  30. El Dato says:
    @guest

    The term “watchdog group” is rather loaded.

    You are supposed to assume these are good. And they are watching while you are having fun.

    But they may just be slavering Rottweilers patrolling the Stalag aisles.

    Better keep out of the wandering spotlight.

    Schrödinger’s cat: unspecified color, neither dead nor alive and in a gas chamber
    Tanton’s cat: very white, very dead and at the bottom of a well

  31. As to the nasty obituary itself, just going by your opinion of the NY Times’ writers yesterday and a commenter’s description of the NY Times’ commenters vs. the Washington Post, it seems the WaPo is the even more vile of the two. Do you think it got this way just after Bezos took over?

    • Replies: @Unladen Swallow
  32. lavoisier says: • Website
    @Dave Pinsen

    The mainstream media has treated current trends as inevitable for years. They are not. They are the result of political decisions, just like America’s demographic makeup circa 1960 was the result of political decisions.

    Political decisions that in most cases were not reflective of the will of the American people.

  33. @Dave Pinsen

    In thirty years or so, I bet many on the left just let this one lie. Should have sent her (and other Somali reprobates) back.

    But on the other hand, if you’re into that kind of thing, Somali women are fairly attractive. I don’t know what they’d be like around the house. If you could get past the Jew hating, you might get a decent wife with admirable B cups and an OK ass.

  34. El Dato says:

    Very OT:

    I missed this one

    Wait until the editorial board finds out that Apollo 11 carried BACON in the pantry.

  35. @Dave Pinsen

    F#$# Perot! He screwed the country over. He was put in charge of education in Texas in the 80s and he screwed it up big time. He was the proto McCain and Romney in that ‘I know what’s best for you and you’d better like it!!’

    Being a billionaire and spending a fraction of one percent of your worth to help veterans doesn’t make you a good person. Screw these guys. I don’t have heath coverage because John F$#$ing McCain threw a hissy fit and wanted to stick it to the guy who actually got elected. What used to cost 400 or 500 dollars a month is now 1,200 or 1,300.

    • Replies: @Brutusale
    , @Anon
    , @FPD72
  36. @Dave Pinsen

    The mainstream media has treated current trends as inevitable for years.

    Or rather, salient to your original “Overton window” point, they’ve been publicly cheering and supporting the current anti-white demographic trends via advocacy of increasingly permissive immigration policy.

    America’s demographic makeup circa 1960 was the result of political decisions

    I assume you’re talking about the results of 1924 Immigration Act and the then ongoing ban on non-white immigration. Wasn’t that notably based on the ethnic and racial preferences of 1920s ruling Anglo-Saxons, rather than simply ‘politics’ ?

    What I mean is that what a nation’s demographic makeup will be is a political question.

    Can you be more specific as to how Trump can broach that without mentioning race (if that’s what you’re suggesting) ?

    • Replies: @Dave Pinsen
  37. SFG says:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Being an MD probably meant he accumulated enough money to do something. Still, not a billionaire.

  38. bomag says:
    @Yojimbo/Zatoichi

    We have to get to the idea that we don’t accept the Ilhan Omars of the world NO MATTER WHAT.

    Our enemies have installed the idea that every person not in the US is in danger of immediate death in their home country.

    Along with pushing back against that notion, we have to accept that refugee programs are too easily corrupted, and that we can’t help everyone.

    • Agree: jim jones
  39. @The Alarmist

    Another Hate Fact = Another Dead Cat in a Well.

  40. “Perot would have won if he hadn’t temporarily dropped out.”

    Maybe. But what he would have done was considerably change the political landscape. Nearly everything which “feels” at stake now with some urgency would not be in what seems like a critical mass tipping point.

    He as did the current president crystalized where the issue fault lines were. And his departure was disappointing. I don;t think he could have mustered the numbers to win, but he would have seriously impacted the and halted the incorrect direction the party was headed.

  41. bomag says:
    @Yojimbo/Zatoichi

    Nice write-up on Perot.

    But lack of attention to his passing highlights that the mainstream institutions are geared towards the status quo and outsiders can get little traction. If he had won, he would have been marginalized by the permanent bureaucracy, which is filled with cucks and leftist haters.

  42. Jake says:

    Tp the Left, we are kulaks. Not just serfs – kulaks are former serfs and descendants of serfs who dared say or do anything that would upset the apple cart of the selfless, righteous left. To be guilty of kulakism requires no intent – an accidental utterance of common sense will do it. And kulakism means that you deserve to die or be imprisoned for life or until totally broken in body and mind.

    • Replies: @Craig Nelsen
  43. bomag says:
    @EliteCommInc.

    Agree.

    Also note that the SPLC etc was calling him the “puppeteer” of the “organized anti-immigration ‘movement’ in America.”. Highlights that SPLC et al think in terms of people being puppets to be led anywhere.

  44. Jake says:
    @Steve Sailer

    Collectively, a revolutionary group never has a sense of humor, and very few individuals who are true believers stand out from the herd by having a sense of humor.

    And they hate as deeply as possible any sense of humor that might lead someone to see them as not just mockable, but as less then purely serious and fit for office of the highest decorum.

    It is serious business, and only serious business, to sacrifice to bring perfection to the world, which means that those who do so deserve what they get.

    If he could get away with it now, John Podhoretz would see you flayed alive over several days for your sacrilegious disrespect.

    • Replies: @SunBakedSuburb
  45. Anonymous[332] • Disclaimer says:
    @Steve Sailer

    Funny, my Dad and I were just talking about how Progressives have no ability to see nuance, nor do they have an ironic sense of humor. Trump’s dry humor goes right over their heads.

    • Replies: @Danindc
    , @Chief Seattle
  46. @EliteCommInc.

    Exactly. If only the majority of white Americans would understand this!

  47. @Steve Sailer

    People with no sense of humor seem to often find it in cruelty. See Hillary and (among other things) her cackle at Qaddafi’s death.

    • Agree: Ibound1
    • Replies: @Harry Baldwin
  48. @Yojimbo/Zatoichi

    Perot’s choice of a running mate was a critical decision–and the guy he chose couldn’t put two words together without stumbling over them.

    Politics (at least in part) is the art of communicating stuff.

    Perot was great at it–his running mate was not.

    Fatal error.

    • Replies: @Dave Pinsen
    , @HammerJack
  49. Of course, John Tanton told the truth with his “pants up…pants down comment”…But right after this FAIR inside memo with this infamous comment came out… Cecilia Munoz the head of LA RAZA…The Race!!! in Ingles…screamed bloody murder. Immediately afterwards, John Tanton was abandoned and denounced by the Civic Nationalist Cuck DC-Beltway Immigration Reform Organizations….And these days they won’t even mention the word “Huwhite”-and they live off the diseased-feces stained $$$$$$$$$$ of the filthy homosexual swine Peter Thiel…..

    As a consequence of all this, the highly racialized nonwhite Democratic Party Voting Bloc has been allowed to define the terms of debate….the terms of battle:The Democratic Party Voting can boast and taunt openly..publicly….about their RACIAL CONQUEST of Working Class Native Born White American LIVING SPACE AND BREEDING SPACE….And they do this with their “pants down”…..while White Liberal Environmentalists demand that the Native Born White American Working Class keep their pants up and demographically die……This is how WHITE GENOCIDE WORKS…And it is a direct consequence of allowing the highly RACIALIZED nonwhite Democratic Party Voting Bloc to define the terms of debate…the terms of battle….

  50. Brutusale says:
    @South Texas Guy

    Lots of Boomers and Gen Xers here. Does anyone have healthcare insurance remotely as good or as inexpensive as the coverage they had 15 years ago?

  51. @Steve Sailer

    The lack of a sense of humor is always the giveaway that you’re dealing with a fanatic.

  52. theMann says:

    And I bet you thought we don’t speak ill of the dead, especially in their obituaries.

    Bobby Fischer was literally the hero of our time – a man who, at the height of the Cold War, singlehandedly took on the Soviet Chess machine, and destroyed it. He was later viciously persecuted by his own government for the crime of trying to make a living. When he died, the Media in the US trashed him mercilessly.

    That was my introduction the reality of how you will be treated if you, how can I phrase this tactfully, confront the Tribe in any meaningful way.

    Tanton’s Obit is a disgrace, but hardly unexpected. Stay classy, Media Jackals.

    J

    • Replies: @Art Deco
    , @Reg Cæsar
  53. JohnnyD says:

    I think we’re supposed to believe that Mr. Tanton, who wasn’t a household name, is this sinister rich guy oppressing immigrants, while the lavishly funded SPLC is the underdog standing up to evil rich guys.

  54. Anon[203] • Disclaimer says:

    I thought “patriot” meant some war hero, but it turned out it was another loudmouth millionaire with a sudden case of flatfoot when it came to real action.

    “This is 1956. What happens to your life at that point? Is there a draft at that time that you must be concerned with, or can you go on with your professional education? TANTON: Well, let’s see, the Korean War was in the early ’50s and the draft was on our minds, but never too seriously. I think I had some sort of student deferment. I went on to the University of Michigan Medical School in the fall of 1956.”

  55. that a guy whose net worth was probably in the seven figures can have such a huge impact shows how powerful our ideas are. David can beat Goliath if he has the right ammo.

  56. Uh, Carl, you let David Gelbaum hijack the Sierra Club for $100 million.

    I wrote this about fake, phony fraudulent environmentalism and nation-wrecking mass immigration extremism and David Gelbaum and Carl Pope and US Sen. Jeanne Shaheen in 2013:

    NH Sen. Jeanne Shaheen and the Sierra Club have combined in an environment-destroying effort to flood the U.S. with 30 million immigrants over the next 10 years.

    Shaheen was tireless in her toil to pass the OBAMA/SHAHEEN/RUBIO illegal alien amnesty–mass immigration surge bill(S.744). On April 25, 2013, the Sierra Club added their support for the 30 million immigrant mass movement of foreigners into the U.S. The bill passed the U.S. Senate in June.

    Why would Shaheen and the Sierra Club favor the importation of 30 million foreigners into the U.S. over the next decade? Greed, greed, and more filthy greed is the answer.

    Shaheen is a bought and paid for puppet of billionaires. The billionaires want to destroy nation-states. Mass immigration is the weapon billionaire-controlled stooges like Shaheen are using to crush the historic and traditional U.S.

    The Sierra Club is now an evil front group for billionaires who use fake environmental propaganda as a smokescreen to cover their sovereignty-sapping agenda of transnationalism. The plutocrats want to pulverize the very concept of the nation-state by pushing globalizer themes of “global warming” and allusions to a “global bio-sphere.”

    The corruption of the Sierra Club was complete about 20 years ago. David Gelbaum, a wealthy Wall Street financier, made it clear that environmentally-friendly immigration restrictionism was to be suppressed at the Sierra Club. Carl Pope, Sierra Club executive director at the time, cravenly capitulated to the command.

    Kenneth R. Weiss, in an October 27 2004 LA Times article “The Man Behind the Land,” quotes Gelbaum as saying, “I did tell Carl Pope in 1994 or 1995 that if they(Sierra Club) ever came out anti-immigration, they would never get a dollar from me.”

    Gelbaum purchased the open-border immigration policy position of the Sierra Club for about $100 million.

    Shaheen is a rancid fraud in her pretensions to environmental concern. The Sierra Club, at management level, is a corrupted pack of swindlers who sold out honest, common-sense environmentalism for a massive money infusion.

    Tweet from 2014:

    • Replies: @istevefan
  57. Mr. Anon says:

    Dr. Tanton had a 35-year career as an eye doctor and surgeon in Petoskey, a prosperous resort community of about 6,000 on the shore of Lake Michigan.

    Petoskey, Michigan. Sure, that’s where all those rich conservative billionaires live.

  58. thinly veiled white nationalist

    Well, that’s just shameful…

    … we should all be proud, blatant White nationalists.

  59. Mr. Anon says:
    @eah

    About half of Dr. Tanton’s archives at the University of Michigan are under seal until 2035. In 2016, Hassan Ahmad, an immigration lawyer in Northern Virginia, filed suit to have the documents released, arguing that they are public records of importance to the nation’s civic discourse.

    In no sane America would there even by an immigration lawyer named “Hassan Ahmad”.

    • Agree: Hail
    • Replies: @Kylie
    , @Lurker
  60. Corvinus says:
    @Dave Pinsen

    “What Trump could do, which no one else can, is drag inside the Overton window the idea that a nation’s demographic makeup is a political question. Once it becomes safe to ask that question publicly without being dismissed as a racist, the political momentum against America turning into a third world country will be unstoppable, I would think.”

    Normie whites already view the nation’s demographic makeup as a political question. This notion has been part of our national consciousness whenever we have had immigration discussion flareups. Furthermore, you are assuming that our nation will become a “third world country” merely because of those changes. Although, perhaps we ought to be mindful of those WASP nativists who clanged the warning bell when hordes of inferior Eastern and Southern Europeans inundated our shores in the late 1800’s The result? An America that has never fully recovered from “alien traditions”. Thanks, Poles, Italians, Greeks, and Jews!

    Praytell, how do you propose selling to normie whites that today’s nationalism means “rejecting the Proposition Nation, the Huddled Masses, the Melting Pot, the 1965 Invasion Act, Judeo-Christianity, the Athens+Jerusalem equation, equality, desegregation, diversity, and every other historical falsehood being utilized to adulterate, devalue, degrade, and demoralize America?”

    Why not undertake this Herculean task yourself considering your are an ideas man? This issue is not too heavy for you to dead lift.

  61. Anon[388] • Disclaimer says:
    @South Texas Guy

    Death, the great equalizer.

  62. Jake says:
    @Brutusale

    Probably not. And what was held in the year 2000 tended to be less for more than what we held in 1980.

  63. Dan Hayes says:

    Perot was a political egomaniac who out of personal pique thwarted the efforts of anyone else to utilize his personal tinker toy, the Reform Party.

    Perot’s egomania defeated the efforts of both Pat Buchanan and Jesse Ventura to run as Reform Party candidates.

  64. istevefan says:
    @Dave Pinsen

    Once it becomes safe to ask that question publicly without being dismissed as a racist, the political momentum against America turning into a third world country will be unstoppable, I would think.

    You are 100% correct. The majority of people feel that something wrong is happening. But they are not confident enough to publicly oppose it because they have seen what happens to the social standing and financial prospects of those who do. If a prominent person would question what the majority wants questioned, and be able to walk away unscathed, it would snowball into more and more people doing the same. And as each new person doing it receives no negative consequences, it would encourage more and more.

    The trouble with Trump is that he sends conflicting messages and doesn’t appear to really believe this stuff other than to use it for campaigning. For example, candidate Trump might talk about how bad it is for businesses to bring in foreigners and make Americans train their replacements. But President Trump stated that he wants record immigration as though he is completely oblivious to the fact we have had record immigration for 50 years and aren’t interested in breaking that mark.

    If only we could have a force of nature like Trump, coupled with the knowledge and ideology of a Patrick Buchanan, what you described would be taking place right now. Trump is a once-in-a-lifetime persona. It’s unfortunate that he really isn’t ideological when it comes to preserving the USA. If he were, he would go down in history alongside George Washington. Instead he might just have to settle with Trump Heights.

  65. Marcus says:

    Steve did you see this? I guess it’s modern anathematization in action, all the high clerics (even the Latinx Law Students Association) take turns pronouncing her a heretic… I mean a racist.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7267819/Outrage-Penn-professor-suggests-America-better-fewer-nonwhites.html

    • Replies: @AnotherDad
  66. Romanian says: • Website
    @Dave Pinsen

    Can you summarize it? The website is not available in the EU.

    • Replies: @Dan Hayes
    , @YetAnotherAnon
  67. Anon[247] • Disclaimer says:

    The Washington Post and the SPLC =

    two Jewish political action groups advocating for Jewish interests by
    demonizing majority non-Jewish interests while pretending to be not Jewish and
    referring to one another to give the illusion of appeal to independent (ie: non-Jewish) authority.

  68. Anon[247] • Disclaimer says:
    @guest

    How exactly is “thinly veiled white nationalist” a label, anyway? No one has ever labelled anyone as such.

    It’s like “thinly veiled Jewish Nationalist” that characterizes the bulk of reporters at the Washington Post.

  69. L Woods says:
    @istevefan

    I think you overestimate the majority. They may feel something is wrong, but crimestop precludes any significant intellectual explication of what that something is even inwardly (let alone outwardly, where as you say financial and social ruin would ensue). They consciously believe their discontent to be a function of not being able to consume quite as much as they’d like, or something similarly frivolous.

  70. Liza says:

    Praytell, how do you propose selling to normie whites that today’s nationalism means “rejecting the Proposition Nation, the Huddled Masses, the Melting Pot, the 1965 Invasion Act, Judeo-Christianity, the Athens+Jerusalem equation, equality, desegregation, diversity, and every other historical falsehood being utilized to adulterate, devalue, degrade, and demoralize America?”

    How many (white) Christians know anything about how their religion got to be so widespread? There was nothing nice about it, the “selling” could be nasty, or at least involve some jiggery pokery by various parties. The majority of European blood people was apparently weak then and they are even weaker today. So, my point is, things can go both ways. It has nothing to do with morality and kindness.

  71. Dan Hayes says:
    @Romanian

    Romanian:

    One of Tanton’s most significant (but often unappreciated) efforts was to republish “The Camp of the Saints”; thereby keeping it in the public discourse!

    • Replies: @Romanian
    , @Anonymous
  72. Your obituary, Steve, will look much the same.

  73. Romanian says: • Website
    @Dan Hayes

    What admirable civic-mindedness! It is always what I have admired about Western cultures. It is also a sort of “noblesse oblige” that one should expect from people who are in the elite classes, regardless of actual income.

    I had read about him in VDare but I did not know what he did other than starting Fair and donating a few thousand bucks each year to be an ersatz devil to the SPLC.

  74. peterike says:
    @Corvinus

    Although, perhaps we ought to be mindful of those WASP nativists who clanged the warning bell when hordes of inferior Eastern and Southern Europeans inundated our shores in the late 1800’s The result? An America that has never fully recovered from “alien traditions”. Thanks, Poles, Italians, Greeks, and Jews!

    It’s been a while since you trotted out this hobby-horse, or maybe it’s just that more and more I simply skip your posts. But to respond, yet again, your washy attempt at sarcasm happens to be 100% correct. America would have been vastly better off without all those Poles, Italians, Greeks and Jews, especially Jews, and that’s all fairly obvious to anyone who isn’t delusional. Your persistent returning to this makes me think you must be among one of those groups. I wonder which?

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  75. istevefan says:
    @Yojimbo/Zatoichi

    Even Sheila Jackson Lee mourned the loss of Ross Perot.

  76. @Brutusale

    Lots of Boomers and Gen Xers here. Does anyone have healthcare insurance remotely as good or as inexpensive as the coverage they had 15 years ago?

    I was born in 1970, and the health insurance I have now is probably the best I’ve ever had. Maybe not as good as the stuff my parents had in the 1970s & 80s, but the best I’ve ever secured for myself. A lot of that stems from having a better job at 48, then I had when I was in my 20s or 30s.

  77. @guest

    How exactly is “thinly veiled white nationalist” a label, anyway? No one has ever labelled anyone as such.

    Amy Wax might take issue with that…

  78. istevefan says:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    I don’t think Admiral Stockdale was so unconventional

    Admiral Stockdale should have been treated with the accolades that John McCain received. Stockdale won the Medal of Honor for his behavior in the Hanoi Hilton, John McCain did not.

    When others mocked Admiral Stockdale for his performance on television during the 1992 election cycle, Dennis Miller came to his defense:

    Now I know (Stockdale’s name has) become a buzzword in this culture for doddering old man, but let’s look at the record, folks. The guy was the first guy in and the last guy out of Vietnam, a war that many Americans, including our present President, did not want to dirty their hands with. The reason he had to turn his hearing aid on at that debate is because those fucking animals knocked his eardrums out when he wouldn’t spill his guts. He teaches philosophy at Stanford University, he’s a brilliant, sensitive, courageous man. And yet he committed the one unpardonable sin in our culture: he was bad on television.

    • Agree: Achmed E. Newman, Corn
    • Replies: @Corn
    , @Dave Pinsen
  79. Anonymous[337] • Disclaimer says:
    @guest

    There is nothing wrong with White nations.

    Odd how desperate other racial and ethnic groups are to gain entry among them.

  80. ic1000 says:
    @Corvinus

    > Why not undertake this Herculean task yourself considering your are an ideas man?

    Corvinus, in the past, you’ve written intelligent and grammatical commentary. Why not undertake to meet that standard every time? We’d all benefit, you as the writer and us as readers.

    • Replies: @Desiderius
    , @L Woods
  81. Anonymous[337] • Disclaimer says:
    @Dan Hayes

    Fascinating how predictive that novel was. Specifically in characterizing the paralytic inertia that would greet similar events that had yet to occur.

    Contrast the resolute commitment to containing communism in that era, when the book was written, with the hand wringing and dissembling into child like cliche chants that we see everywhere now. Impressive that he the author could forsee where the weak points of the west would eventually lead to its eclipse and slow dissoultion.

    A kind of massive market with a mercenary army for other groups to settle old scores among their old allies and enemies.

    • Agree: Dan Hayes
  82. @Corvinus

    Normie whites already view the nation’s demographic makeup as a political question. This notion has been part of our national consciousness whenever we have had immigration discussion flareups.

    Why do you insist upon framing open discussion of immigration policy as a “flare up?” Do we have tax policy “flare ups?” Global Warming “flare ups?”

    Immigration is a policy like any other, and the policy ought to be measured against the standard of whether or not the policy is serving the interests of the American people broadly, rather than a hand-waving dismissal with a blithe comment that people have been against loose immigration policies in the past and “everything worked out.” What you seem to want is to suppress the airing of the policy and the possibility that Americans may want to restrict immigration for a while in their own interests.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  83. istevefan says:
    @Corvinus

    You have to go back.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  84. @Redneck farmer

    Better yet, Bezos could fire the WaPo staff and hire a new one at one-tenth the cost from the refugee population

  85. Three quotes on Tanton from Eric Kaufmann’s Whiteshift:

    FAIR founder John Tanton admitted to a major donor, ‘is about the decline of the folks who look like you and me.’ Elsewhere he told a friend: ‘for European-American society and culture to persist requires a European-American majority, and a clear one at that.’

    I’d want to comment on this: Preserving white identity and white-European culture is radioactive in today’s environment, but preserving or even growing any non-white identity is fully valid and supported. Kaufmann calls this “asymmetrical multiculturalism, whereby minorities identify with their groups while [the majorities] morph into cosmopolites”. This is a hypocrisy, which is fine, there are lots of hypocrisies in the world. Politically, this hypocrisy has been successfully managed and tolerated. Personally, I consider this hypocrisy not fair, not reasonable, and it should not be politically successful as it has been.

    Tanton set about creating an organization that would appeal to the centre-ground of public opinion. Racists and radicals were to be kept out of the new movement. FAIR went out of its way to reach out to anti-sprawl environmentalists, unions worried about job competition and African-Americans concerned Hispanic immigrants would compete for jobs, housing, and schools. However, as Otis Graham Jr, a history professor and FAIR founding board member, recalls, liberal groups were unresponsive. Though a small number of Democratic representatives endorsed FAIR, liberal pressure groups views immigrants, legal or otherwise, exclusively through a protection lens. Unions, now under the sway of leaders sensitive to the ideological multiculturalism of the New Left and the pragmatic multiculturalism of the Democratic Party’s ‘rainbow coalition’ of minorities, preferred to frame immigrants as potential members. This was virtually unprecedented in American labour history and a major change from the period from the 1830s to the 1960s when figures such as Samuel Gompers of the AFL railed against immigrants undercutting wages.

    Tanton was increasingly active on other fronts, pursuing a cultural nationalist agenda focused on making English the official language of the United States.

    FYI, US Founding Father Benjamin Franklin famously railed against German immigrants trying to keep German alive in the US, and teach German in schools. The mindset of a homogeneous language and identity is American.

    • Replies: @Expletive Deleted
  86. @Steve Sailer

    God willing we’ll never find out. Let’s make sure the last laugh is our own.

  87. @ic1000

    He’s at at least a SD or two below intelligent, commentarywise.

    Intelligent commenters attempting to persuade employ a variety of rhetorical techniques which are conspicuously absent from the offerings of Corvinus, particularly humor as Steve notes.

  88. @istevefan

    He’s learning.

    It’s a tough needle to thread, but it is doable. I was a libertarian converted by the recognition that we can be both a nation of immigrants and a nation that has traditionally followed waves of immigration by pauses to focus on assimilation.

    That’s what Trump’s “come back” tweet was about.

  89. J1234 says:

    The SPLC designated FAIR and the Center for Immigration Studies as hate groups and later added other organizations founded by Dr. Tanton to the list.

    Back when I joined FAIR several years ago, they had a higher rating from Charity Navigator (America’s largest independent evaluator of charities) than the SPLC did. Top rating, I believe. I just checked right now and it looks like they still do.

    https://www.charitynavigator.org/index.cfm?keyword_list=SPLC&bay=search.results

    https://www.charitynavigator.org/index.cfm?keyword_list=Federation+for+American+Immigration+Reform&bay=search.results

    • Replies: @HammerJack
  90. Anonymous[388] • Disclaimer says:

    OT (but up Sailer’s alley):

    https://thehill.com/homenews/news/454127-golfer-credits-trumps-putting-advice-after-winning-pga-event

    Golfer credits Trump’s advice for winning PGA event

    Jim Herman captured the PGA Tour’s Barbasol Championship on Sunday, and he said the victory was due in part to valuable advice he received from President Trump when the two used to play together.

    Herman was Trump’s regular golfing partner when he was employed as an assistant professional at Trump National Golf Club Bedminster in New Jersey. The 41-year-old said over the weekend that Trump had urged him to try a different grip on his putter after struggling on the greens.

    “He gave me a good talking to and told me to use a different style if it’s not working,” Herman said Saturday after firing a 65 to climb to stay on top of the leaderboard at Keene Trace Golf Club in Nicholasville, Ky. “Some great advice, so I appreciate it.”

    Herman hadn’t won on the PGA tour in more than three years and was ranked 134th in the world before winning the Barbasol Championship on Sunday.

    “I think I need to see him again soon,” Herman said of Trump after winning the tournament by shooting 26-under over four rounds. “He motivates me and puts me in a good spot.”

    Trump often plays golf on the weekends at Trump National Golf Club in Potomac Falls, Va.

    “You want your hips straight and forward while bringing your shoulders back and across. Keep most of your weight on your back leg and push off that big toe.”

  91. @Steve Sailer

    They have a sense of humor, but it’s sadistic.

  92. @Romanian

    If you use the Brave browser there’s an option for anonymous browsing via TOR.

    As well as enabling me to see sites which are barred to UK citizens (generally links to sports feeds), it enables me to read US sites otherwise unavailable to EU citizens.

    • Agree: jim jones
    • Replies: @Romanian
  93. L Woods says:
    @ic1000

    Corvinus, in the past, you’ve written intelligent and grammatical commentary.

    This must be the same past in which sassy black women sent men to the moon.

    • LOL: YetAnotherAnon, JMcG
  94. @Jake

    Kulaks were also, once the serfs were emancipated, the successful peasants, which means they were on the high-IQ side of their group. I’ve been noticing that targeting the right side of the bell curve is a feature of genocides and massacres in which Jews play the primary role.

  95. The NeoClowns at National Review don’t think that we are serious.

    https://www.nationalreview.com/2019/07/no-one-really-wants-to-send-her-back/

    I have news for them. We do want to send her back.

  96. @eah

    After reviewing thousands of documents in Dr. Tanton’s archives, Ahmad said in an interview, “I think he’s the architect, the mastermind of an effort to push a vile and white nationalist agenda, and I don’t use those terms lightly.”

    So, there might be some philosophy in there that is useful to White Nationalists.

    Let them be released, I say.

  97. @HammerJack

    Good for you. I WISH that I had voted for Perot. I have usually voted “third party” but foolishly went with Bush Senior in 1992.

  98. Whiskey says: • Website
    @Dave Pinsen

    Seriously this can never happen. Whites overall are ashamed of being White. They want to grovel and abase themselves and turn everything over to non Whites who they worship as sacred objects.

    White man is an insult. So is White. Whites are viewed by themselves as stuffy, incompetent, boring and evil. Most Whites want more not less Ilhan Omars.

    The response to Trump has been know your place White man. Bow grovel and beg. From both Whites and non Whites alike. This is because gays and White women win bigly from this, and their natural eternal enemies ordinary White men lose bigly.

    The center of gravity are the losers. Young White men have a lifetime of groveling and knowing their place.

    Far easier to convince them that the others should grovel in front of them, and a multicultural society should have them with the whip hand not feeling the lash. Not the least of which is that men having the whip hand get their pick of women and men taking the lash get gelded one way or another.

    Omar types would need little encouragement to call for certain measures against White men and their women to be given to their cousins. That’s how it done in Somalia. That’s the stick for young White men.

    The carrot is to keep Omar here. But put her to work scrubbing toilets all day.

    No African will immigrate here if they are expected to work. Hard. Under White direction.

    • Replies: @istevefan
  99. Second, Tanton was, we now learn, in fading health for the great majority of this century, which explains why he wasn’t a terribly active figure. I, for example, never met him.

    A contact at The Social Contract invited me to visit the office when in the area. Tanton wasn’t there, but all the other locals on the masthead were. They were quite hospitable, but the tour was interrupted by a phone call. From Samuel Francis.

    Sam had a piece in the works. Like many other great thinkers and writers, he was a bit difficult to deal with. The Irving Berlin of the Middle American Revolution. Though unlike Berlin, Sam (as far as I know) didn’t go around suing people.

    • Replies: @SaneClownPosse
    , @Art Deco
  100. @Dave Pinsen

    Since we are not allowed to send Omar back now that she is here, are we at least allowed to ask whether it was a good idea to bring her here in the first place?

    If a store has a strict “no return” policy and won’t let you independently inspect the merchandise before you buy, shouldn’t you err on the side on not making the purchase? Caveat Emptor.

    • Replies: @nsa
    , @Dave Pinsen
    , @Desiderius
  101. OT – here are this years winning Maths Olympiad US squad.

    “The 2019 U.S. International Mathematical Olympiad team is: Vincent Huang, Luke Robitaille, Colin Tang, Edward Wan, Brandon Wang, and Daniel Zhu.”

    They tied for first place with … China!

    The 1968 Brit team came second, and contained two future GCHQ mathematicians, Malcolm Williamson and Clifford Cocks, who with the late James Ellis invented public key cryptography four years before RSA/Diffie Hellman. I wonder if the NSA is full of Chinese guys?

    http://www.bristol.ac.uk/graduation/honorary-degrees/hondeg08/cocks.html

  102. Anon[624] • Disclaimer says:

    OT: I don’t know if this is rumor or reality, but Africans without white Colonial control to civilize them appear to be reverting to their old-fashioned tribal habits amazingly well. They’re eating pygmies, according to this.

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2003/jan/09/congo.jamesastill

    • Replies: @Bigdicknick
  103. @Yojimbo/Zatoichi

    Receiving 25-30% of the popular vote would then mean he would have garnered some Electoral Votes, which in turn could have then made him a kingmaker as to which major party candidate would receive his electors.

    George Wallace got two-thirds the vote percentage Perot did, and 46 electors. Perot got none. He did finish second in a handful of states. Had he concentrated on those, he could have built up a real Electoral College threat– not so much to win, but to deprive others of a majority.

    Also, he seemed to concentrate on attacking Bush, understandably because the man was incumbent. But Clinton had already shown himself as the leading candidate, and that should be the target for any third-party insurgent.

    Narrow the race, don’t widen it. Wallace understood this, Perot didn’t. (Or had different aims.)

    • Replies: @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
    , @Lot
  104. @Brutusale

    Obamacare took our health insurance and all doctors instantly and the worse alternatives are many thousands more. This topic has fallen off the radar, but it’s still a gigantic problem.

    Now we do a Christian cost sharing program called Medishare. It’s okay, but nothing like working for the state or a large company. The trick is to not get sick before you turn 65, when Medicare will take over and you just pay a supplement if you can afford it.

    The people who have great insurance these days are not self-employed or part of a small business, they’re working for gov’t or some huge company. Or, they’re flat broke and dealing with medicaid or some subsidized insurance.

    • Replies: @Dave Pinsen
  105. ic1000 says:

    > And here’s the last paragraph of the Post’s obituary: “‘It’s sad,’ Burns told the Detroit News in 2017. ‘It’s like a dead cat in a well. It poisons a lot of good water. Tanton has been that cat for 30 years.’”

    Jeff Bezos’ Washington Post seems to have tossed the AP Stylebook. That paragraph could have come from the 1930’s Der Stürmer (celebrating the death of some rabbi) or the 1960s People’s Daily (gloating over the fall of a minor Capitalist Roader).

    Wikipedia describes the Nazi newspaper as being “known for its use of simple themes that required little thought.” For accuracy, that’s an improvement over the WaPo’s current slogan.

    • LOL: fnn
    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  106. Romanian says: • Website
    @YetAnotherAnon

    Thanks. I should check that out.

  107. @istevefan

    If only we could have a force of nature like Trump, coupled with the knowledge and ideology of a Patrick Buchanan, what you described would be taking place right now. Trump is a once-in-a-lifetime persona. It’s unfortunate that he really isn’t ideological when it comes to preserving the USA.

    True. But if Trump was a rigid ideologue, instead of the mercurial, improvisational madman that he is, he never would have pulled off the upset of the century.

    But there is still hope. Consider what might happen if Trump were to win reelection and the Dems were to lose the House in 2020. Without having to worry about reelection, and with a plausible chance at getting support from Congress, we could see a new Trump who is really willing to swing for the fences.

    Trump also seems to be moving steadily up the learning curve in sorting the cucks and incompetents (Sessions, Nielson) from the Patriots with true talent (Barr, Miller).

    The worst thing we could do now, however, is to get cynical and let up in the fight just because Trump has failed to deliver a nationalist nirvana in his first term.

    Keep Hope Alive!

  108. It poisons a lot of good water.

    Tanton was an outdoorsman and committed environmentalist. That’s what drove him.

    Thus, this dig is particularly nasty.

  109. @Yojimbo/Zatoichi

    I’d suggest that Ross Perot (unintentionally) enabled Clownworld, as his campaign severely wounded George H.W. Bush in the 1992 Election, leading to the Clinton Presidency and all that unseriousness.

    Of course, the media — 90%+ supporting Clinton — played a significant role in damaging Bush’s chances, driving his approval rating from 89% to 29% in 17 months.

    https://news.gallup.com/opinion/gallup/234971/george-bush-retrospective.aspx

  110. @Reg Cæsar

    Apples to broccoli comparison, and it doesn’t wash. Governor George Wallace (D-AL) was not a political outsider, come on. He was a well known national political figure throughout the late ’50’s and the ’60’s. He had an entire region to draw upon as well. His running mate in ’68, Curtis LeMay, who in the ’60’s was certainly more respectable than feeble Admiral Stockdale was in ’92. What Wallace did was broaden his appeal to alienated white voters in urban areas in the Northeast who didn’t like either of the two major candidates. And of course, Wallace wasn’t pro-war. What Wallace did was broaden his already well known national stature by taking it to disaffected NE whites (but for those disaffected by the major two candidates). The majority of Wallace’s 46 Electors came from the South, making the point that his appeal first and foremost was regional. Even in the South, Perot wasn’t the first name one thought of as a political figure in the early ’90’s. If he had been more savvy, he’d have emphasized his Southern/Southwestern roots more to his advantage.

    I also think that if there were televised debates in ’68, and Wallace was allowed to participate, he would’ve potentially received even more than 46 electoral votes. The one thing that helped Perot’s popularity was that he was allowed to participate in the televised debates, which helped him immensely. Remember, Perot didn’t participate in the ’96 debates and he received only about 7% of the popular vote total.

    Unlike Wallace, Perot’s appeal was more national but general and unfocused. If he had been more politically savvy, he’d have concentrated on a few regions and thus would’ve done even better.

  111. Lot says:

    Willie Brown opposes painting over George Washington mural:

    https://www.sfchronicle.com/bayarea/williesworld/article/The-new-America-Those-who-yell-loudest-win-14092264.php?psid=9W4W5

    His Willie’s World column is kind of fun, cross between Bob Novak and a gossip column.

  112. Dave Pinsen says: • Website
    @guest

    I said on Twitter Brit should run a Twitter poll and see.

  113. @anonymous

    Would never go that far. But he certainly would’ve had a much better chance to win some major electoral votes.

  114. @Anonymous

    Who? Oh yeah, yeah. The anti-war LGBTQEDWXYZ+ smoker dude.

    Point is made.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @Reg Cæsar
  115. Lot says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    I recall Perot coming in 2nd in two states. One a very GOP state, the other known for electing independents statewide.

    Take a guess, answer below.

    [MORE]

    In Utah he got more votes than Clinton and in Maine more than Bush.

  116. Tom Paine says:
    @Yojimbo/Zatoichi

    Her entire story of who her family was and who they were aligned with in Somalia is highly suspect. It seems her family may have been aligned and active members of the toxic Moslem-Communist hybrid dictatorship and escaped the wrath of the victims by fleeing.
    Her nasty positions certainly reflect radical Communist-Moslem hate for Western values and culture.

  117. @HammerJack

    Yes, it certainly is. Bush probably would’ve squeaked thru to a second term had it only been a traditional two party race. But that just makes the point: Ordinary voters didn’t want to continue with the Reagan-Bush policies of the previous 12 yrs. The Democrats held their own voting block together. The GOP has been outnumbered nationally in registered voters for decades, always relying upon independent voters. Only this time, they mostly went with Perot. Had he focused on the South, Southwest, possibly the Northwest as well, Perot certainly would’ve had 25-30% of the total popular vote and that would’ve added up to some major electoral votes as well. He might’ve come in second ahead of Bush. After all, why exactly should voters have voted to re-elect Bush in ’92? What was the reason?

    See? Most can’t think of anything. Except of course, that he wasn’t Bill Clinton.

    • Replies: @FPD72
  118. @Steve Sailer

    I’m sure it’s a racist smear or something to say that Progressives have no sense of humor. As the NYT would say, the science is settled and this claim has been “debunked.” For example, check out this knee slapper form a site compiling “The 20 Best Jokes by Stalin.”

    During the war, Stalin instructed Baibakov to open new oil fields. When Baibakov objected that it was impossible, Stalin replied:
    – If will be oil – will be Baibakov, will be no oil – will be no Baibakov!
    Soon there were discovered deposits in Tataria and Bashkortostan. http://antiterror.one/en/article/20-best-jokes-stalin

    Stalin also liked to play practical jokes on kulaks, like taking away their grain and sending them to Siberia. He really knew how to bring the funny. American progressives are following in this long and hallowed tradition of humor.

    • Replies: @JackOH
    , @J.Ross
  119. @Achmed E. Newman

    The NYT is more consistently on point with the Narrative, on rare occasion the WP will have someone who is not, but makes up for it by having more far left types to counter that.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  120. istevefan says:
    @El Dato

    America may have put the first man on the moon, but the Soviet Union sent the first woman, the first Asian man, and the first black man into orbit — all years before the U.S. would follow suit

    What’s interesting is that this tweet fails to mention the Soviet first that was of importance, namely the fact they put the first person into space. If there is no such thing as race, and we are all the same, then it is immaterial to mention when the first Asian or black was put into orbit. All that matters from a human point of view is the first person in space, the first person on the moon, etc.

    By this tweet they are admitting that race does exist and that there is a distinction between White men and non-White men, as well as a difference between men and women.

    Further, you can infer from this tweet that they considered Russians to be White like us, else they would have mentioned the Soviet firsts that did not involve non-Whites.

    A lot to unpack from that tweet. I don’t think they thought it through prior to pressing ‘enter’.

    • Replies: @HammerJack
  121. istevefan says:
    @Hypnotoad666

    Trump has an ego and you need to know how to stoke it correctly to get him to act. Hopefully this headline from Drudge will nudge him back to what candidate Trump promoted:

    • Agree: Lot
    • Replies: @Charles Pewitt
  122. istevefan says:
    @Hypnotoad666

    Trump has an ego and you need to know how to stoke it correctly to get him to act. Hopefully this headline from Drudge will nudge him back to what candidate Trump promoted:

  123. istevefan says:
    @Hypnotoad666

    Trump has an ego and you need to know how to stoke it correctly to get him to act. Hopefully this headline from Drudge will nudge him back to what candidate Trump promoted:

  124. robot says: • Website

    OT: is “Old Town Road” just supposed to be silly apolitical fun? Can we praise it for that?

    • Replies: @FPD72
  125. istevefan says:
    @Whiskey

    The center of gravity are the losers. Young White men have a lifetime of groveling and knowing their place.

    Gee, if they only had the right to keep and bear arms they might be able to defend themselves.

    Seriously, you are the biggest defeatist I’ve ever come across. In many places throughout time and place, a man with your attitude would have been shot for defeatism. Your attitude is like a cancer, and I am not sure whether or not you are some sort of plant to deliberately sow seeds of doubt.

    You probably would have advised that we sue for peace with Japan in February 1942. You probably would have advised we sue for peace with Germany after the first week of the Battle of the Bulge.

    Why do you seem so intent on surrender when there are so many assets on our side? Our problem at this stage is that there is no effective leadership or direction in which to employ those assets. That should be the concern at this point, not thinking about what you are going to wear to the surrender ceremony.

    As football coaches have told their teams for years, “stop thinking about what they are going to do to you, and start thinking about what you are going to do them.” You have to change your mindset, or buzz off. The last thing we need now are defeatists cucks.

    • Agree: YetAnotherAnon
    • Replies: @Anonymous
  126. L Woods says:
    @South Texas Guy

    I’m sure they beat American white women, but that’s saying nothing at all.

  127. Anonymous[219] • Disclaimer says:
    @istevefan

    Why do you seem so intent on surrender when there are so many assets on our side? Our problem at this stage is that there is no effective leadership or direction in which to employ those assets.

    Could you elaborate on what you mean by this?

    • Replies: @istevefan
  128. Corn says:
    @istevefan

    I think it was political strategist Ed Rollins who angrily said that every American who watched that debate and laughed at Admiral Stockdale that night should have been forced to read his Medal of Honor citation.

  129. Kylie says:
    @South Texas Guy

    Are you serious no question mark.

    Has no one ever taught you the difference between what you bed and what you wed?

    Wallowing in it is one thing. I realize most men–here, there and everywhere–think with the other head the instant a fuckable female comes into view. But for a white man to enter into a legal contract with a Somali female just for rutting rights is more than just senseless; it’s traitorous. You want to marry it, renounce your American citizenship and move to Somalia.

    • Agree: AnotherDad
    • Replies: @Anonymous
  130. Corn says:
    @Hypnotoad666

    I don’t want to sound like a Trump cuck but you may have a point. I can remember during Barry’s first term alot of libs were disappointed in him or found his presidency lukewarm (recession muddling along, Obamacare instead of single payer etc). He got himself re-elected though and charted a crash course to Wokeville for SS America.

    If Trump gets re-elected (not taking it as a given) I’d be curious to see what happens. Would he just bumble along as he’s been or would he channel his inner Sulla?

  131. • Replies: @Daniel H
  132. Dave Pinsen says: • Website
    @Jenner Ickham Errican

    Can you be more specific as to how Trump can broach that without mentioning race (if that’s what you’re suggesting) ?

    He can mention race. I’d suggest something like this:

    For many years, America has prided itself on diversity, and celebrated the contributions of Americans of all backgrounds. But up until about half a century ago, America was essentially a biracial country: about 85% of European origin, and 10% descendants of African slaves, with smaller numbers of Native Americans and Hispanics [I didn’t bother to look up the actual numbers while typing this]. But now that America is only 55% white, and many of our newer nonwhite citizens and residents are benefiting from programs we initially developed to redress historic wrongs committed against our African American citizens, it’s time to ask whether it makes sense to continue along this path.

    The Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King dreamed of an America where we would judge each other by the content of our character rather than the color of our skin. It’s clear now that our project of increasing diversity since Dr. King’s time has not brought us closer to that goal, but further away, by radically increasing immigration from countries where people are still divided sharply by blood. Just this past week we learned that a Korean American software programmer at one of our leading technology companies is suing because he was passed over for promotion by Indian immigrant managers who promote their countrymen over ours. Surely, this is not what Dr. King intended.

    At the same time, we have welcomed so many migrants from Muslim lands that they now have elected representatives in our Congress, where they have brought their ancient enmities against Jews. Surely Dr. King, a friend of Jews and strong supporter of Israel, would not have wanted this.

    For too long, we have assumed the rest of the world is like us, and shares our values and abilities, but we now know this is untrue. Despite spending trillions of dollars and sacrificing thousands of American lives, we were unable to build advanced, tolerant countries in Afghanistan or Iraq. Much of what made America great was the values and the talents we inherited from Europe. It was these Christian values that led us to abolish slavery, which had been practiced worldwide, for thousands of years. It was those values that animated Dr. King’s struggle for Civil Rights. And it was talented men of European ancestry like Thomas Edison, Nikolai Tesla, and Willis Carrier who gave us the electric power and air conditioning we take for granted today. Fifty years ago, it was largely Americans of European descent who enabled us to put men on the moon; on the fiftieth anniversary of their astonishing achievement, tens of thousands of Americans were without power in our largest city.

    If we want an America where we can continue to strive toward Dr. King’s goals, and keep the power on while we reach for the stars, we need to move closer to the demographic balance we had during our finest hour.

    Something like that.

  133. JackOH says:
    @Hypnotoad666

    Kulak sees Stalin drowning in a lake—and rescues him!

    Grateful, Stalin says, “Please, I’m so grateful, tell me whatever you want, and I shall grant it to you. Anything!”

    Kulak to Stalin, “Please don’t tell anyone.”

  134. What Steve? No Butterknife logic about how secretly the reporters don’t believe what they’re saying and are hidden dissidents?

  135. Dave Pinsen says: • Website
    @Justvisiting

    Dennis Miller’s comment about James Stockdale was something like: “He was the first guy in Vietnam and last guy out; he was awarded our highest honor for heroism; he taught philosophy at Stanford; and we laughed at him because he was bad on TV.”

    • Replies: @Dave Pinsen
    , @Justvisiting
  136. nsa says:
    @Hypnotoad666

    “Since we are not allowed to send Omar back ……”
    Who would you rather deport…..the hapless Somali congressbabe or the 100 odd traitorous dual nationality congressjooies who wish the white population of America the absolute worst? Think about it.
    “……are we at least allowed to ask whether it was a good idea to bring her here in the first place?”
    How about asking whether it was a hot idea to move whole shtetls over here between 1880 and 1920?

  137. @Redneck farmer

    Move all the “refugees” into WAPO subscribers’ neighborhoods.

    I grew up in northern Virginia. I think they already did.

  138. JackOH says:
    @Dave Pinsen

    Dave, is this your work? No matter. It’s a superb phrasing of our concerns here, which I’ve tried to suggest are way more mainstreamable than many people imagine.

    • Agree: ic1000
    • Replies: @Dave Pinsen
  139. @Yojimbo/Zatoichi

    “which in turn could have then made him a kingmaker as to which major party candidate would receive his electors.”

    So, at best, Perot would have picked either one of the two corporate party approved candidates, who would have had no obligation, nor intention, to do anything differently.

    One could assume that Perot had no interest in actually winning. Much like Madame La Clinton not campaigning in key swing states. He was there to enable a Bubba Clinton victory with less ballot malfeasance. No need for bags of votes stashed away as insurance. No need for messy recounts.

    Clinton losing and the subsequent “Never Trump” and “Resist45” have kept anything else from the news cycles, and the national discourse, for years. Mueller and the Russians. Not over yet.

    Belief that any single individual, working in the system, can reform the system is a messianic delusion.

    • Replies: @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
  140. @Reg Cæsar

    “he wasn’t a terribly active figure. I, for example, never met him.”

    The author’s basis for the claim that the subject was not active, is that the author never met him?

    Ego.

  141. Dave Pinsen says: • Website
    @istevefan

    Thanks, that was the quote I was thinking of elsewhere in this thread.

  142. Dave Pinsen says: • Website
    @Hypnotoad666

    You can also give the store a bad Yelp review.

  143. @Dave Pinsen

    When I saw Stockdale on TV I wasn’t laughing–I was very upset that Perot had chosen a Vice Presidential candidate who was unable to articulate Perot’s vision.

  144. You can also give the store a bad Yelp review.

    I think Somalia already has zero stars. But we keep buying what they are selling.

    • Agree: Dave Pinsen
  145. They should use “The Puppeteer” as his epitaph. If you can sustain the level of demonization by the SPLC that John Tanton did for as long as he did, you are a giant.

    You may judge what kind of people the editorial staff at the Washington Post are by comparing the mean, venomous obituary for John Tanton to the lavish encomiums heaped on John McCain when he died. John McCain was a mean-spirited, corrupt liar who never hesitated to betray his people, his country, or his fellow soldiers. John Tanton was an honorable, intelligent, erudite American with a strong sense of duty both to those who came before and to those who are still to come.

    Personal anecdote: John was a beekeeper among many avocations. One morning at breakfast he asked whether I wanted to watch something on a far higher level than cable news. He reached over to the wall at the end of the breakfast table and slid up a wooden panel. Behind the panel, the wall was plexiglass and there in the wall was an entire beehive, with the entrance, of course, to the outside, and all the bees busy flying in and out and performing their duties. He pointed out the queen, and there she was, with all her attendants.

    I never heard John say a derogatory word about anyone–not even the SPLC, which richly deserved it. But how can you get down in the slime with Richard Cohen and Heidi Beirich when you’ve spent breakfast marveling at how all those bees manage to navigate their way through the chaos of all the take-offs and landings at their super-busy airstrip.

  146. @istevefan

    • Replies: @MEH 0910
  147. donut says:
    @El Dato

    I don’t know what to make of the Russians . Above all else no matter who is running the country they seem to love their country and will make tremendous sacrifices for it . What do I know about Putin ? Just what I see online . He seems to have Russian interests as a priority unlike the traitor we have currently occupying the WH . Well the Germans spent 4 years getting to know them and in the end had only respect for them as an adversary . I’d rather have them as friends than that nation of gangsters that Trump dropped his trousers for .
    I think I’ll contact the WH and tell him that before it’s against the law .

    • Replies: @HammerJack
  148. Art Deco says:
    @theMann

    He was destroyed by his own lunacy.

    • Replies: @Dan Hayes
  149. @South Texas Guy

    But on the other hand, if you’re into that kind of thing, Somali women are fairly attractive.

    Make sure you get one who is still anatomically intact, however. FGM (“Female Genital Mutilation”) is one of Somalia’s more vibrant cultural practices.

    FGM is almost universal in Somalia, and many women undergo infibulation, the most extreme form of female genital mutilation.[126] According to a 2005 WHO estimate, about 97.9% of Somalia’s women and girls underwent FGM. This was at the time the world’s highest prevalence rate of the procedure.[127] A 2010 UNICEF report also noted that Somalia had the world’s highest rate of Type III FGM, with 79% of all Somali women having undergone the procedure; another 15% underwent Type II FGM.[76] The prevalence rate varies considerably by region and is on the decline in the northern part of the country. In 2013, UNICEF in conjunction with the Somali authorities reported that the FGM prevalence rate among 1- to 14-year-old girls in the autonomous northern Puntland and Somaliland regions had dropped to 25% following a social and religious awareness campaign.[128] Article 15 of the Federal Constitution adopted in August 2012 also prohibits female circumcision. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prevalence_of_female_genital_mutilation_by_country#Somalia

    Not for the squeamish.

    The WHO identifies four types of FGM:

    Type I: removal of the clitoral hood, the skin around the clitoris (Ia), with partial or complete removal of the clitoris (Ib);
    Type II: removal of the labia minora (IIa), with partial or complete removal of the clitoris (IIb) and the labia majora (IIc);
    Type III: removal of all or part of the labia minora (IIIa) and labia majora (IIIb), and the stitching of a seal across the vagina, leaving a small opening for the passage of urine and menstrual blood (infibulation);
    Type IV: other miscellaneous acts, might or might not include cauterization of the clitoris, cutting of the vagina (gishiri cutting), and introducing corrosive substances into the vagina to tighten it (extreme and rare cases)

    In fact, Omar herself was probably subjected to the procedure as “in Somalia, Egypt, Chad and the Central African Republic, . . . over 80 percent (of those cut) are cut between five and 14.” https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Female_genital_mutilation#Age,_ethnicity

    • Replies: @Liza
    , @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
  150. Art Deco says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    He wasn’t a great thinker or a great writer. He was a failed academic who edited a newsletter. Great many people who complete a dissertation cannot find work in academe.

    • Replies: @Dan Hayes
  151. @South Texas Guy

    But on the other hand, if you’re into that kind of thing, Somali women are fairly attractive. I don’t know what they’d be like around the house. If you could get past the Jew hating, you might get a decent wife with admirable B cups and an OK ass.

    And … she gives you Somali–low-IQ, high time-preference, uncivilized–children.

    The requirement for a wife is not just good sex and homemaking, you are marrying her genes–her’s are half of what your children will be. If you’re a high quality guy you want her genes to be top quality as well. That means she must be from an advanced race with a long history of civilization.

    Getting “admirable B cups and an OK ass” while shitting all over your genetic legacy to your children is just foolish.

    • Agree: HammerJack
    • Replies: @Lot
    , @Kylie
    , @Jack D
  152. @Massimo Heitor

    The mindset of a homogeneous language and identity is American.

    Wise decision. Very farsighted indeed.
    I suspect your rebellious yet philosophically-minded antecedents were well aware of the disadvantages of a continental-sized landmass being as multilingual and fractious as their European homeland. Well before Napoleon, the Kaiser and the mustachioed corporal took their turns on the stage. Even then you did manage to contrive a hideous, futile bloodbath between purely English-speaking polities.
    Diversity + Proximity = War.

    • Replies: @Massimo Heitor
  153. Liza says:
    @Hypnotoad666

    Make sure you get one who is still anatomically intact, however.

    Too bad American women aren’t as fussy about having sex with an anatomically intact male. Anyone who says it makes no difference is blind in every sense of the word. People of both sexes and their partners function best with all their normal parts. Yes, you can play piano with one hand and read with only one eye – but why should you have to? Same with the sex organs.

    I don’t need any lectures about how FGM is always much worse than male circumcision. Not necessarily. I recall reading an article by a woman researcher from here who interviewed African women (in Africa) who’d been cut to a lesser or greater degree. When she asked them if they enjoyed sex, she said they howled with laughter. “Of course we do!” they cackled, apparently thinking the questioner had a screw loose.

    You see, it’s apparently just different, but cut women can (and do) enjoy it all the same. Women are inherently more sexually charged than men so can afford to lose some of their nerves down there. But men who’ve had their prepuce removed obtain only relief, not real enjoyment as intended by our creator.

    • Replies: @L Woods
    , @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
  154. @istevefan

    You are 100% correct. The majority of people feel that something wrong is happening. But they are not confident enough to publicly oppose it because they have seen what happens to the social standing and financial prospects of those who do. If a prominent person would question what the majority wants questioned, and be able to walk away unscathed, it would snowball into more and more people doing the same. And as each new person doing it receives no negative consequences, it would encourage more and more.

    Very well said–as per usual, istevefan.

    And this too …

    The trouble with Trump is that he sends conflicting messages and doesn’t appear to really believe this stuff other than to use it for campaigning…

    My take is Trump is a nationalist only in the sense that he’s long viscerally had the sense that America and the American people have been getting the short end and that America’s elite have been medicore to outright incompetent. But he’s not much of a thinker and while clearly–“shithole countries”–has some sense of HBD/cultural issues, he doesn’t have a firm understanding of the importance of race and culture, nor any mathematical feel for the insanity of immigrationism, nor the confidence/willingness to really take on the minoritarian narrative.

  155. Dan Hayes says:
    @Art Deco

    Art Deco:

    Sam Francis was a brilliant and principled political thinker who served in government and journalism. He along with Paul Gottfried served as political consultants to Pat Buchanan in his campaigns. These same principles led to his eventual downfall. After writing prize-winning editorials for the Washington Times he was summarily dismissed for trumped-up political transgressions. His early death was a great loss to the Paleoconservatism he so greatly contributed to.

    • Replies: @Art Deco
    , @Charles Pewitt
  156. Corvinus says:
    @peterike

    “America would have been vastly better off without all those Poles, Italians, Greeks and Jews, especially Jews, and that’s all fairly obvious to anyone who isn’t delusional.”

    Your comment is anti-white. You have to go back.

    • Troll: YetAnotherAnon
  157. @Dave Pinsen

    Thanks for the detailed reply!

    Not too shabby for tactical gambit hypothetical Trump.

    He would again be denounced as “racist!” of course. MLK references dissed and dismissed by the intersectionally superior, what would be Trump demographic rhetoric Phase II?

    Is this too strong for Phase II?

    If [they] get to pick [our] judges: nothing you can do, folks. Although the Second Amendment people, maybe there is, I don’t know. But I tell you what, that will be a horrible day.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/08/09/donald-trump-says-second-amendment-people-may-be-the-only-check-on-clinton-judicial-appointments/

  158. Corvinus says:
    @Alec Leamas (hard at work)

    “Why do you insist upon framing open discussion of immigration policy as a “flare up?”

    Because it is accurate. We have several of these periods of tension–the 1850’s, the 1920’s, the 1980’s, and now.

    “What you seem to want is to suppress the airing of the policy and the possibility that Americans may want to restrict immigration for a while in their own interests.”

    That would be a false assumption on your part. I have gone on record repeatedly to say that I have no issues with immigration restrictions, or having our political parties ensure that our current laws on the books are enforced.

    • Replies: @HammerJack
  159. Dan Hayes says:
    @Art Deco

    Art Deco:

    Probably the most redeeming features of his tragic life was how the Icelandic Nation supported him against the transgressions of the US State!

    • Replies: @Art Deco
  160. @Jake

    “Collectively, a revolutionary group never has a sense of humor …”

    Unfortunately, the revolutionary group at our throats controls culture. Humor now conforms to Jacobin diktats. @michelleinbklyn is angling for the Kommisar of Komedy position. Which is a shame because the notable cultural Marxist figures are ripe for satire.

  161. Corvinus says:
    @istevefan

    “The majority of people feel that something wrong is happening.”

    They have felt that way since 2016, and have been expressing it openly ever since.

    “But they are not confident enough to publicly oppose it because they have seen what happens to the social standing and financial prospects of those who do.”

    The reality is that normies have been stating their opinions quite strongly in public, it’s just not the type of position that you agree with.

    If a prominent person would question what the majority wants questioned, and be able to walk away unscathed, it would snowball into more and more people doing the same. And as each new person doing it receives no negative consequences, it would encourage more and more.

    “The trouble with Trump is that he sends conflicting messages and doesn’t appear to really believe this stuff other than to use it for campaigning.”

    Exactly, he is a showman who panders to his base. What was his thoughts on immigration before he became president?

    “You have to go back”.

    We ALL have to go back.

    • Replies: @istevefan
  162. @Corvinus

    Is Atticus Finch your hero?

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  163. @Hypnotoad666

    We’re allowed to send her back. If she costs their beloved Ds another election just watch how fast the Nice people of Minnesota get motivated to make it happen.

    The Star Tribune is already putting a finger to the wind just in case.

  164. Art Deco says:
    @Dan Hayes

    He was an exponent of a particular viewpoint. Nothing brilliant about what he had to say. He was a lapsed historian. Few historians have it in them to be brilliant. Their vocation is to be meticulous and fluent. No clue why the Washington Times cut him loose. He was granted a berth at Townhall at one time, then cut from the roster ‘ere long; I think it was the white power shtick which irritated them.

    Paul Gottfried is an intellectual historian (and graphomaniac). Cannot imagine what sort of advice he might have had that Buchanan would have found of use. Since I don’t ever look at Telos, no clue what he has to say in his chosen discipline. He did used to pen articles for Chronicles, but the only one I can recall off-hand was the one where he said people associated with the Committee for the Free World were ‘talentless dimwits’ and that people who like Midge Decter’s writing are dopey.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    , @Dan Hayes
  165. Art Deco says:
    @Dan Hayes

    What ‘transgressions’? He was a very erratic man who threw away his title and spent who knows how many years of his life as a paranoid recluse. No one in the federal civil service made him a kook. He did that to himself.

  166. @theMann

    Bobby Fischer was literally the hero of our time – a man who, at the height of the Cold War, singlehandedly took on the Soviet Chess machine, and destroyed it.

    I rooted for Fischer till about halfway through the Reykjavik matches. But his behavior there shocked even teenage me enough that I switched sides. Spassky was quite the gentleman.

    Spassky likely realized Fischer was nuts early on, and cut him a lot of slack. They remained friends till the end.

    Spassky is also a tsarist:

    As for my views—I’m a Russian nationalist, and there’s nothing scary about it, don’t be afraid. Some say that Russian nationalist is a nasty thing, most definitely an antisemite, a racist, a national-Bolshevik. No; for a nationalist God exists and nations that respect each other.

    I’m a convinced monarchist, I remained a monarchist during the Soviet years and never tried to hide that. I believe that the greatness of Russia is connected to the activity of the national leaders represented by our tsars.

    What really makes me feel happy in modern Russia—churches come back to life.

    No wonder I like him.

    • Replies: @Paleo Liberal
  167. @HammerJack

    The “conventional wisdom” is Perot tipped the scales for Clinton, but there is no evidence whatsoever to back that up.

    Opinion polls with three candidates showed Clinton ahead by 5 points.

    Opinion polls with two candidates showed Clinton ahead by 5 points.

    Actual results had Clinton winning by 5 points.

    In other words, the Perot voters were about evenly split as to the other candidate they hated the least.

    Look at it this way. A lot of Perot voters didn’t much care for Bush nor Clinton.

    If we assume that 1/3 of the Perot voters would’ve stayed home, then Bush would’ve had to have gotten 70-75% of the remaining Perot voters in order to win the popular vote. Not likely.

  168. @Art Deco

    He did used to

    Deco, I’m surprised. I thought you were more literate than that.

    Use behaves like every other verb in the language. It doesn’t utilize use its own special grammar .

    Though if you’re posting from a Kindle, like I am, I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt. Besos boo-boos are legion.

  169. Lot says:
    @AnotherDad

    “she gives you Somali–low-IQ”

    And for sons, the mother contributes more IQ genes than the father. Boys get the large X chromosome from mom and tiny Y from dad.

    I don’t think mtDNA would effect IQ, but if it does, that too is effectively entirely maternal.

    • Replies: @Jack D
  170. @Reg Cæsar

    Fischer himself admitted to being insane. He said chess kept him relatively sane.

    As for Fischer’s psychological tactics — those were considered within the bounds of fair play. In fact, I once read a book, translated from the Russian, called “The Psychology of Chess”. The author heaped his highest praise upon Fischer. It seems Fischer had mastered how to play the opponent, as well as the game. He had Spasky beaten fairly early on in the match.

    Years later, Karpov defended his title against the defector Korchnoi. Korchnoi’s son was in a gulag. Before each match the Russians would give Korchnoi updates on his son’s poor health. While 3 years earlier the Karpov-Korchnoi match had been almost even, this time is was a rout. Korchnoi was completely broken.

    American reporters asked Spasky to compare the psych warfare of Fischer with the psych warfare of Karpov. Spasky thought that insulting. Fischer played tough, but fair as far as Boris was concerned. Karpov played extremely dirty.

    It is interesting to compare the upbringing of Fischer and Spasky. Fischer learned chess as a way to survive the pressures of a broken unstable home. All he did was play chess. His mother was a Jew, so he became an anti Semite. Spasky was also half Jewish, but the local Jews made sure the young chess prodigy got a good cultural education.

    Fischer was the better player, but Spasky lived the better life, despite being hated by the Communists.

  171. @Unladen Swallow

    It’s not like I’m about to get a subscription for either one, but thanks for the info., U.S.

  172. @SunBakedSuburb

    Crows don’t like finches. They don’t take mockery well.

  173. @istevefan

    Indeed, not to mention that all of a sudden the Russians are no longer the Great Satan. For the moment.

  174. @donut

    Russia is just like another version of the USA, complete with Jewish oligarchs and kleptocrats. Only, it’s colder in the winter, they have far more vodka, far fewer negroes, and they havent been trained to hate white people yet.

  175. @Dan Hayes

    Sam Francis on ANARCHO-TYRANNY from 2003:

    Mr. Barr’s words are almost a definition of the system of government I have called “anarcho-tyranny”: a combination of anarchy (in which legitimate government functions—like spying on the bad guys or punishing real criminals—are not performed) and tyranny (in which government performs illegitimate functions—like spying on the good guys or criminalizing innocent conduct like gun ownership and political dissent).

    The result of anarcho-tyranny is that government swells in power, criminals are not controlled, and law-abiding citizens wind up being repressed by the state and attacked by thugs.

    https://vdare.com/articles/mass-immigration-feckless-feds-anarcho-tyranny

  176. this link starting at 1:35 demonstrates actual poisoning of the H2O table (and wells) in Pietermaritzburg, South Africa.

  177. J.Ross says:

    Musician heckled, SJW gibberish ensues.
    https://www.stereogum.com/2051988/deerhunter-bradford-cox-heckler-cultural-appropriation/video/

    You’re appropriating Snoqualmie culture,” she says. Cox asks her to explain — “Is there something about North Bend that I should know? I’d like to hear it.” — but she declines. “Why should I, as a person of color, have to tell you about it,” she asks to collective booing. “So that I can empathize and relate to your point,” Cox responds.

    “Ideas are traded between cultures through communication, not by insulting and yelling ‘f*** you’ at people,” Cox says. “I have been marginalized my entire f***ing life…marginalized by heteronormative culture, marginalized by socioeconomic situations, marginalized by being differently abled.”

    “What is your assumption about my life that makes you think that I am somehow privileged or I represent someone appropriating your culture? I believe that you have a very good point that you’re not going to share with me out of arrogance.”

    “You obviously as a white person, male,” she begins. Cox interrupts, “Did you just call me male? I don’t even know that you can assume my gender, my friend.”

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  178. Anon[286] • Disclaimer says:

    I don’t know about Biden. If you were him, would you go around kissing a girl on the lips at a campaign event? It’s like he’s trying to lose.

    https://grabien.com/story.php?id=244303

  179. istevefan says:
    @Corvinus

    The reality is that normies have been stating their opinions quite strongly in public, it’s just not the type of position that you agree with.

    It’s very sad to see people with such little self-respect being used to push policies that benefit others.

    We ALL have to go back.

    I qualify per the Naturalization Act of 1790. I’m good.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  180. Dan Hayes says:
    @Art Deco

    Art Deco:

    Francis’s take on the Committee for the Free World and Midge Decter were prescient. He was canned by the Washington Times for addressing an American Renaissance gathering, a principled action which did not enhance his career.

    Regarding Gottfried, as far as I know he hasn’t been published recently in Telos. He currently writes in the American Conservative (a publication of otherwise no great worth!). He is not afraid to sometimes question the motives and actions of his coreligionists.

    • Replies: @Art Deco
  181. @istevefan

    The other crows won’t take him. He’s a Binh Thai Luc.

  182. @Brutusale

    Remotely? Well, the coverage is about the same, the price is about the same, but the deductible is way, way, up.

  183. Anonymous[248] • Disclaimer says:
    @HammerJack

    Rip Torn finally kicked too

    • Replies: @HammerJack
  184. The bit about the well poisoning is interesting. What group has historically been linked with that specific activity? Slips my mind.

    • Replies: @john_l
  185. Redman says:
    @Steve Sailer

    Speaking of humor. Or the lack of it. Does anyone else notice that Kamala Harris cannot utter a single sentence during an interview without a reflexive guffaw? (Not the cackle of Hillary).

    I sense it’s a subconscious tell that she’s not confident about her intellect and is looking for a diversion.

    It reminds me of HRC’s obsessive nodding in every interview she’s ever given. That was probably more of the “feel your pain” body language she’d learned from Bill’s lower lip biting.

  186. J.Ross says:
    @Hypnotoad666

    There was a Polish-heritage Soviet general who had been sent to the Gulag before the outbreak of war, but after the Germans attacked, he was brought back because of his competence. He met Stalin for the first time since being purged:
    Stalin: Rokossovsky, where have you been all this time?
    Rokossovsky: Siberia, comrade Stalin.
    Stalin: Well that’s a wierd place for you to have been.

  187. donut says:

    Man , 158 , 159 now , the topic is ? oh, The Washington Post trashed some dead White man . Sailer you throw a Milk-Bone out and we swarm on it .

    Well thanks to Ron I guess we’re living in a free speech bubble .

  188. @South Texas Guy

    “…admirable B cups and an OK ass.”

    Sure, you could shtup a ladyboy, too. I like my women with an intact clitoris, but that’s just me.

    Not Allow!

  189. @J.Ross

    If Buttigieg is the mayor of South Bend, who is the mayor of North Bend?

    If I want hot air, I’ll go to West Bend.

  190. @South Texas Guy

    But on the other hand, if you’re into that kind of thing, Somali women are fairly attractive.

    When young. They also dress well, and are permitted to exult in their femininity, the way European women were once noted for.

    However, these advantages come at a very steep price. Better to hunt down that elusive woman of your own tribe with these admirable traits. Start by going back to church. Odds are better there.

    • Agree: Kylie
    • Replies: @L Woods
  191. Danindc says:
    @Anonymous

    It really does. That’s why I pity liberals and never Trump weirdos.

    Trump is a lot of fun – especially for a guy who doesn’t drink.

  192. Anonymous[248] • Disclaimer says:
    @Kylie

    I think it because they imagine women from the more vibrantese lands to be basically manageable/controllable, downplaying the pronounced tendency for ruthless scheming, a strategic error they wouldn’t make for less exotic chicks. With hot Somali, Colombian, Russian girls it is on a whole other level from routine female perfidy. She’ll have you drowning in refi scams and real estate transfers 20 minutes after “I do.”

    • Agree: Kylie
  193. Kylie says:
    @AnotherDad

    So well said, thank you.

  194. Art Deco says:
    @Dan Hayes

    Committee for the Free World and Midge Decter were prescient.

    No, his take on the people associated with the committee and on Decter’s readers was rude and puerile. Since Decter was past 70 at the time, I’m not sure how it was supposed to be ‘prescient’. She’d been a figure in New York publishing for 40-odd years at that point.

    Telos is an academic journal. He’s placed more than three-dozen articles in it over the last several decades.

    • Replies: @Dan Hayes
  195. J.Ross says:

    UNINTENTIONALLY HILARIOUS HEADLINE IMPLIES PENTAGON EMBRACING CROSSFIT, BARRE
    https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/military-studies-hyperfit-women-pass-grueling-courses-64468993

    In the nearly four years since the Pentagon announced it was opening all combat jobs to women, at least 30 have earned the Army Ranger tab, two have graduated Marine infantry school, and three have passed the grueling initial assessment phase for Green Beret training.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    , @L Woods
  196. Jack D says:
    @Lot

    If IQ related genes were present on the X chromosome then women would be smarter than men because they’d have twice as much of whatever the X codes for.

    • Replies: @Lot
    , @res
  197. Jack D says:
    @AnotherDad

    Somalis are not fully sub-Saharan and animist – they are Muslim and part Arab. At least some of them could read (the Koran) and write. They beat Western armies at times (the Portuguese who were sent to assist their fellow Christian Ethiopians) and were armed with cannon. Vasco da Gama, who passed by Mogadishu in the 15th century, noted that it was a large city with houses of four or five storeys and big palaces in its centre and many mosques with cylindrical minarets. This is a far cry from the grass huts and spears found to the south. I get the feeling that, more than in some other African countries, the problem with Somalis really is cultural and not so much genetic. It’s not really accurate to call them “uncivilized”. You may not like their civilization, but they had a civilization – they were not a bunch of savages running around naked.

    The other thing is that you may feel that you are irrevocably messing up your gene pool by breeding with say Somalis but in fact your descendants could be bred back to almost pure white in only a few generations.

  198. Daniel H says:
    @Charles Pewitt

    And will Donald Trump sign this bill? If his heart is in the right place why doesn’t he just come out and tell Congress to forget about it, that no way will he sign a bill that increases H1Bs, for any reason.

    My prediction, Trump signs this bill then claims that he was deceived. Whatever, he loses 2020.

  199. L Woods says:
    @Liza

    An esoteric hobbyhorse, but I tend to agree. Circumcision is barbaric, and emblematic of American culture’s vicious misandry.

    • Agree: Liza
  200. Jack D says:
    @J.Ross

    and three have passed the grueling initial assessment phase for Green Beret training.

    This strongly implies that they didn’t get beyond the initial phase and washed out at the next winnowing. You have to read the American press the way Russians used to read Pravda – “The INITIAL grain harvest in the Donbass exceeded the Five Year plan.” – This meant that the final harvest was a complete failure.

    • Replies: @L Woods
  201. L Woods says:
    @J.Ross

    at least 30 have earned the Army Ranger tab

    They may have received it. Unlikely they earned it.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    , @res
  202. L Woods says:
    @Jack D

    Women will pass the final phase, sooner or later. It’s been pre-determined by our betters, to the accolades of good conservatives everywhere.

  203. @Marcus

    Here are her “offensive” remarks:

    ‘Conservatives need a realistic approach to immigration that … preserves the United States as a Western and First World nation,’ she said on the panel.

    ‘We are better off if we are dominated numerically … by people from the First World, from the West, than by people who are from less advanced countries.’

    ‘Europe and the first world to which the United States belongs remain mostly white for now, and the third world, although mixed, contains a lot of nonwhite people,’ Wax also stated.

    ‘Embracing cultural distance, cultural distance nationalism means in effect taking the position that our country will be better off with more whites and fewer nonwhites. Well, that is the result, anyway.

    ‘So even if our immigration philosophy is grounded firmly in cultural concerns doesn’t rely on race at all, and no matter how many times we repeat the mantra that correlation is not causation, these racial dimensions are enough to spook conservatives. As a result today we have an immigration policy driven by fear.’

    I know the point and sputter people do not tend to exactly be math geniuses, but when it comes to white proportion there really only are two positions:
    — higher white proportion is better (Amy Wax)
    or
    — lower white proportion is better (all the point and sputterers … and the entire establishment).

    It’s not like the point+sputter people are saying “everything should stay the same as it is”. Keeping the US ethnic composition the same, would require and immediate immigration moratorium followed by measures to massively suppress the fertility of Hispanics, then to a lesser extent blacks, then to a lesser extent Asians. (The white population is older, less fertile.) Suffice to say that would be racist! racist! racist! Not in the least what the point+sputter folks have in mind.

    No, what Amy Wax’s demouncers openly advocate–and the only respectable opinion allowed–is fewer whites, an ever contracting proportion of whites. I.e. white dispossession and genocide.

    ~~

    Note at the detailed level–and absolutely in private–the question isn’t so binary.
    — What Penn’s LatinX law students really believe is that the Latinos are great and the Latino population proportion should be rising.
    — What the black law students believe is blacks are great and their proportion should be rising.
    — What the Chinese believe is Chinese are great and their proportion should be rising.
    — What the Indians believe is Indians are great and their proportion shoudl be rising.

    But of course for all those things to happen–for every minority proportion to rise–the white proportion must fall.

    The one people who can not–racist! racist! racist!–want their proportion to rise, or even just hang on, are whites.

    This is just Jewish minoritarianism–minorities good, (white) majorities bad–in all it’s genocidal ugliness. White gentiles owning their own nations is evil. Whites must be dispossessed. Their nations turn out for access by all.

    Of course, Jewish minoritarianism is a false and nasty ideology. One-people nations with a strong confident culturally, economically and numerically dominant majority–pariticular ones with a civilized competent people, like whites (or some Asians) are much, much nicer more pleasant places, than ones with any sort of “diversity”.

    Amy Wax is undoubtable correct. America is indisputably a nation created and developed by whites–an outgrowth of Western Christian civilization. And America is indisputably nice–it is drawing these non-white immigrants in, i.e. revealled preference. So either it’s magic dirt or “the Constitution” (which is why no one wants to go to Canada or Australia) … or a nation full of white people–white genes, white culture–is a great place.

    What conservatives badly need is politicians willing to point this obvious truth out:
    America is nice precisely because it is–or was–white. And it is going to get less and less nice the more non-white it gets.

    • Replies: @Marcus
  204. Anonymous[219] • Disclaimer says:
    @Yojimbo/Zatoichi

    Who? Oh yeah, yeah. The anti-war LGBTQEDWXYZ+ smoker dude.

    Point is mad

    Raimondo has had as much of a positive influence as Tanton. (Not to take anything away from Tanton.)

  205. Dave Pinsen says: • Website
    @YetAnotherAnon

    Has anyone investigated whether math has become less prestigious in America as its become dominated by East Asians?

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    , @Dan Hayes
    , @gregor
  206. istevefan says:
    @Anonymous

    Could you elaborate on what you mean by this?

    First, people with our views represent a materially significant portion of the population as well as the nation’s GDP. Yet we never coordinate, or organize to bring this potential economic clout into action. We need to learn from the other side who use smaller pools of people and economic clout to push their agenda.

    Second, many on our side act as force multipliers for the other side by instantly denouncing and ostracizing anyone caught in their crosshairs. When the other side targets someone for violating their norms, the worst thing we can do is to join in. But that is exactly what Conservative Inc does. Thus you saw many Cons denounce the Covington High kids immediately when the Left demanded they be censured. We have to stop acting as the enforcement agents for the other side.

    Contrast this to how the democrats let that governor of Virginia off the hook for the black-face photos. That never would have happened with our side. A GOP governor would have been run out of town by Conservative, Inc.

    Third, of course many of us on this side do exercise our 2nd Amendment. I don’t want violent action because once the genie is let loose, there is no telling what will happen. But I think a lot of folks on our side get too gloomy about the future when we still would present a most formidable force for those who seek our destruction. We should have a certain confidence that comes with knowing we have such protection with the 2A. A confidence that need not manifest itself with violence, but that gives one the attitude that we are not going to harmed without consequences.

    Fourth,we have an opportunity to greatly influence the GOP by joining the local party and influencing the direction of the party at the state and local level. Think about the states with caucuses. A handful of committed people can greatly influence the GOP at the state level. We need to have a party that is responsive to our needs. Too many of us, I included, just turn out to vote in the general election and then gripe that our representatives are not doing what we want.

    The same commitment needed to organize economic action would be required to join and dominate the GOP. It can be done given our numbers.

    • Replies: @HammerJack
  207. Dave Pinsen says: • Website
    @stillCARealist

    Hence the appeal of Medicare for all.

  208. Dan Hayes says:
    @Art Deco

    Art Deco:

    It was prescient in describing how Decter would come out of the shadows to exert public control over hitherto conservative outlets (eg, the Philadelphia society)

  209. Daniel H says:

    What conservatives badly need is politicians willing to point this obvious truth out:
    America is nice precisely because it is–or was–white. And it is going to get less and less nice the more non-white it gets.

    Any Republican who explicitly runs on this meme against Trump in the primaries wins the primaries. Any Republican who wins the primaries on this meme wins the general election. It’s so simple.

    Alas, excepting Steve King, there is not a single Republican who grasps this, or – more likely – who wants to grasp this.

  210. Dave Pinsen says: • Website
    @JackOH

    Yeah, I tapped it out on my phone while laying on the couch earlier today. Feel free to use it elsewhere if you like.

    • Replies: @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
    , @JackOH
  211. @YetAnotherAnon

    They tied for first place with … China!

    Cool. So our Chinese are just as good as their Chinese. We’re No. 1! (Tied)

    • Replies: @Lot
  212. Marcus says:
    @AnotherDad

    Great reply, and if you typed Latinx with a straight face, congratulations. However, judging by her surname, I believe Mrs. Wax may be one of the rare Stephen Miller, Mickey Kaus, types.

    • Agree: Dan Hayes
    • Replies: @AnotherDad
  213. istevefan says:
    @Charles Pewitt

    I thought I would provide the actual link to that LA Times article, The Man Behind the Land.

  214. @El Dato

    El Dato, Ron’s site–thanks Ron!–has some very nice functionality. The teasers button is your friend

    http://www.unz.com/author/steve-sailer/

    I always start there and to get the 50,000 ft view of what Steve’s up to, and also check if there are new comments for posts that were particularly interesting to me. (I can waste a lot of time here–but then these are the most important questions determining our future, humanities future.)

    If you read something very iStevey in the NYT–especially where they blunderingly reveal the core psychological impulses and imperatives of good thinkers or simply the inherent logic of the narrative–a quick zip back to Steve’s posts for that day and you may well find he’s covered it:

    http://www.unz.com/isteve/to-diversity-and-beyond/

  215. Lot says:
    @Hypnotoad666

    The USA has about 10 million NE Asians, China 1.2 billion.

  216. Kylie says:
    @Mr. Anon

    “In no sane America would there even by an immigration lawyer named ‘Hassan Ahmad’.”

    Or a POTUS named “Barack Obama”.

  217. Anon7 says:

    OT: Newsweek says Rush Limbaugh is wrong in saying that Jamaican-Indian Kamala Harris is not black, not an African-American woman; here’s how they prove it:

    While Harris simply calls herself “an American,” the 2020 candidate’s Hindu immigrant mother adopted black culture in the U.S. and “immersed her daughters in it,” according to the Washington Post. Although Harris embraced her Indian heritage, she grew up living a proud African American life.

    “My mother understood very well that she was raising two black daughters,” Harris explained in her autobiography, The Truths We Hold. “She knew that her adopted homeland would see Maya and me as black girls, and she was determined to make sure we would grow into confident, proud black women.

    https://www.newsweek.com/rush-limbaugh-falsely-claims-kamala-harris-barack-obama-are-not-african-american-rashida-tlaib-1450601?amp=1

    By this criterion, anyone could be made black.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
  218. MBlanc46 says:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Do you want me to rat you out to them?

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  219. J.Ross says:
    @L Woods

    What they’re passing isn’t indoc or Ranger school and they’re not becoming Rangers. They’re passing a sort of leadership course. That’s before all the special exemptions.

  220. @Justvisiting

    Reminds me of one of John McCain’s many unforced errors.

  221. J.Ross says:
    @Dave Pinsen

    I am not a math person but:
    1 — we can totally make that happen given a scandal comprehensible to the innumerate (Boeing MCAS, Windows 10).
    2 — I seriously doubt that would happen with academic math (cf Derb’s acceptance of the hierarchy seen in Big Bang Theory).

    • Replies: @YetAnotherAnon
  222. Lurker says:
    @eah

    “I think he’s the architect, the mastermind of an effort to push a vile and white nationalist agenda, and I don’t use those terms lightly.”

    Ooh I bet you don’t.

  223. Lurker says:
    @Mr. Anon

    In no sane America would there even by an immigration lawyer named “Hassan Ahmad”

    In no sane America would there even be an “Hassan Ahmad”.

  224. @Hypnotoad666

    Two things:

    The worst thing we could do now, however, is to get cynical and let up in the fight just because Trump has failed to deliver a nationalist nirvana in his first term.

    1) No one expected him to deliver a “nationalist nirvana”, nationalists are disappointed because he hasn’t fought for one. We all knew Trump was Trump, not Pat Buchanan. But his performance has been distinctly unimpressive. Specifically:
    — didn’t prioritize the nationalist issues that got him elected
    — often abandoned fighting for what he campaigned on
    — often hasn’t even used the direct executive branch tools at his disposal
    — appointed really terrible people who didn’t actually support his agenda

    But there is still hope. Consider what might happen if Trump were to win reelection and the Dems were to lose the House in 2020. Without having to worry about reelection, and with a plausible chance at getting support from Congress, we could see a new Trump who is really willing to swing for the fences.

    2) There’s very little reason to suspect this. In fact it seems completely backward.

    Trump turns nationalist when he needs to stoke up the voting base. He’s random, often fun and occasionally spot on pushing the Overton Window with his tweets. But his governing is most ho-hum business oriented crank turning … “we’re doing great!” “it’s going to be great”, blah, blah, blah.

    Trump had a highly Republican congress in 2017-18 … and did nothing with it. If he gets re-elected with one in 2020, he will be in a situation where the support of the voters no long matters to him … plus he’ll be getting older, less energetic.

    Even if Trump gets a Republican congress–unlikely–without the need to appease voters, the odds strongly favor a go-along, get-along capture by business interests. And Trump will likely go out with a whimper–while tweeting wildly.

    • Replies: @Lot
    , @anon
  225. Lot says:
    @Jack D

    One of the two X chromosomes in women is a largely inactive Barr body.

    Regarding IQ genes:

    “For reasons that are not yet understood, there is an excess proportion of genes on the X-chromosome that are associated with the development of intelligence, with no obvious links to other significant biological functions. In other words, a significant proportion of genes associated with intelligence is passed on to the male offspring from the maternal side and to the female offspring from either/both maternal and paternal side.”

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X_chromosome#Role_in_mental_abilities_and_intelligence

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  226. @J1234

    The way this works in our society today though, is that if a group like Charity Navigator gives a higher rating to an organization like FAIR than it does to the SPLC, Charity Navigator becomes ipso facto illegitimate, and probably racist to boot.

    When you hold the reins of public opinion, i.e. control of the mass media, you get to make determinations like that; you don’t have to justify them and they don’t have to make sense.

  227. @ic1000

    Jeff Bezos’ Washington Post seems to have tossed the AP Stylebook.

    Jeff Jesus’s Kindle Fire seems to have tossed the dictionary of the English language. It can’t even spell the boss’s name. I usually leave it just as he “corrects” it.

    Heretofore it came out as Besos, as in “Besame Mucho”.

    But as you can see from my first sentence, his aspirations have now surpassed that of Latin lover.

    • Replies: @Lot
  228. Lot says:
    @AnotherDad

    “Even if Trump gets a Republican congress–unlikely”

    The 2010 house gerrymander remains largely in effect. (It was partly undone in PA.)

    I don’t see why the GOP can’t regain 18+ of the 42 seats they lost in the 2018 Dem wave year.

    A few of the Dem wins were very narrow or featured unusually weak GOP candidates and are better than 50% of flipping back. Having AOC and the two Muslimas be the face of the House dems isn’t helping them either.

  229. @istevefan

    Second, many on our side act as force multipliers for the other side by instantly denouncing and ostracizing anyone caught in their crosshairs. When the other side targets someone for violating their norms, the worst thing we can do is to join in. But that is exactly what Conservative Inc does.

    What we call “Conservatism, Inc.” or the GOPe is not on “our side” and hasn’t been for decades.

  230. @Lot

    One of the two X chromosomes in women is a largely inactive Barr body.

    All she ever did was say something nice about Trump. That inactivates her.

  231. @YetAnotherAnon

    I’m assuming those names read from right to left.

  232. 216 says:

    Apologies if this already came up

    We live in a society where this man keeps his sinecure, when he deserved to be run out on a rail.

    Wouldn’t it be nice if we just had the oligarchs tell it like it is without using puppets.

  233. @Anonymous

    Ironically or otherwise, him we have discussed here at some length. Now we’ve finally covered both of them.

  234. Anonymous[427] • Disclaimer says:
    @Lot

    A Sephardess, Gorme’ (nee Gormezano) was a truly great singer and from all accounts a decent person. She has one of the more clear cut cases of BJ Backjaw, and I suspect that’s a big feature in a singer.

    Emmylou Harris has that too and a similar vocal purity and clarity , which I doubt is coincidence.

    A singer is made by his or her anatomy to a greater extent than most people realize. That’s true of some instruments too-flutists need to have a certain lip shape to be really good, and some are disqualifying.
    Brasswinds are all about embouchure too, and some of that is inborn.

  235. @Anonymous

    Trump’s quote about Epstein is one of the humorous things that went right over the media’s collective heads. “He likes them young” was both a distinction from his own relationships with women and a clear dig at Epstein’s proclivities. It was a funny, polite way to say that the guy is a perv. And the media missed it completely. It really is a profession for dull jock sniffers.

  236. @Lot

    I recognize Sadie Vimmerstedt’s collaboration with Johnny Mercer, but otherwise miss the point of your picture.

    Are you suggesting Sephardesses such as Eydie trump cowboy JAPs like Roseanne?

  237. @nsa

    One being bad doesn’t make the other one automatically good, you know. Obviously the old one has done much more damage but there was also a time when they had just one or two congressmen. And unfortunately we can’t change what happened over 100 years ago.

  238. @MBlanc46

    It’d be a nice gesture, but do you have the clout to get me up into the Hate List?

  239. @Anon7

    the 2020 candidate’s Hindu immigrant mother adopted black culture in the U.S.

    By moving in with her Hindu parents in Montreal, Canada?

  240. @Corvinus

    Indeed. Your endless trolling in this forum is more skilful than Tiny Duck’s. But he’s much more entertaining so it’s something of a wash overall.

  241. Dan Hayes says:
    @Dave Pinsen

    Dave Pinsen:

    Math was prestigious when before it was dominated by Jews! There should be no loss of prestige when the baton is now being passed from Jews to Northeast Asians.

  242. @Steve Sailer

    By moving in with her Hindu parents in Montreal, Canada?

    And yet, KH did attend Howard, which cannot be at the top of many Indian mothers’ dream uni lists.

  243. Anon7 says:
    @Steve Sailer

    It turns out that Africans are not highly regarded in India, so it’s hard to believe that her Hindu mother wanted her to be a strong, proud black woman.

    Many Hindus, when they see a black woman in India, ask “How much?”, assuming that she is a prostitute.

    https://youtube.com/watch?v=djuAvmn37ug

    It turns out that the leader of the Indian state of Gujarat went and “obtained” a large number of Africans. After 400 years, these people seem entirely separate, no assimilation at all.

  244. @nsa

    Do you have a list of the 100 dual nationals in Congress? Are you suggesting they are dual citizens of Israel? There are something like 27 Jews in Congress and 8 Senators. I can’t think of any who so clearly hate America the way Omar and Tlaib do. There might be 100 total from all countries, though.

    Michelle Bachman had Swiss citizenship for some reason but she renounced it. Ted Cruz had Canadian citizenship he dumped, but he might still be a citizen of Transylvania.

    What you can blame Jews and Israel for is that the guy whose case opened up the dual citizen angle was a Polish born Israeli who was a naturalized U.S. citizen, in Afroyim v. Rusk. He was going to have his citizenship revoked after he voted in an Israeli election. ( Interestingly, Israel does not allow absentee voting for citizens abroad).

    It’s hard to find out who is and who isn’t a dual citizen in Congress or higher government, because citizens would quite rightly demand that people in those positions have only one loyalty. Whether its Swiss citizenship for tax purposes, Israeli or Indian or whatever. Does Omar have a Somali passport? Would you be surprised?

    Dual citizenship is a big issue, and dual citizens probably cast millions of votes. It’s not hard to imagine what party benefits from this.

  245. “If you can’t trust a radio station owner, who no doubt benefited from the then-existing affirmative action tax break on radio station sales to a minority, who can you trust?”

    Yep, I got boned on buying a radio station in Marina California thanks to that law. I couldn’t match the price after the break, so they sold it to an ex member of the Harlem Gloabtrotters, I’m sure he needed the break more than I did. After all, I was only a young married man with two kids, fresh out of the Army (infantry) after serving in Operation Just Cause and Operation Promote Liberty.

    Now was that my reparations payment? How about the job I didn’t get at Dow Chemical where they flat out told me I wasn’t a minority so I was wasting my time?

    Since I’m only a third generation American myself I can’t imagine my share of reparations should come out to even more, but it seems that if they have their way, I’ll be paying again soon enough.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  246. Anonymous[427] • Disclaimer says:
    @Ghost of Bull Moose

    Swiss citizenship is very valuable, especially for a female, who won’t have a military obligation unless she joined voluntarily. Moreso, I’d think, than US citizenship. And moreso than Israeli citizenship, even for a Jew.

  247. anon[116] • Disclaimer says:
    @AnotherDad

    Trump is a Boris Yeltsin.
    We need a Putin.

  248. @Marcus

    Great reply, and if you typed Latinx with a straight face, congratulations. However, judging by her surname, I believe Mrs. Wax may be one of the rare Stephen Miller, Mickey Kaus, types.

    Amy Wax is obviously a righteous Jew along with folks like Kaus and Miller who–however committed they are to their Jewish identity (no idea about any of them)–understand the greatness of Western civilization, and the tremendous opportunities that the American version of it has provided–including to Jews.

    The fact that there a plenty of Jews who are less hostile and just generally more sane and realistic about civilizational history and realities doesn’t change the reality that minoritarianism–minorities good, virtuous, entitled to identity; majorities bad, requiring policing, not entitled to identity–was mostly an ideological product of American Jews–and continues to be pushed, propagandized by and opposition heavily policed by Jews today. (Anymore than neither my dad, my brother nor me having any sort of drinking problem means we aren’t Irish/half-Irish.)

    • Agree: Marcus, Charles Pewitt
  249. @Expletive Deleted

    Diversity + Proximity = War.

    In the past, absolutely. I don’t think this argument holds up for the future. The recent migration surges to the US, Europe, and Canada did not trigger any wars or mass waves of violence. There have been some episodes of violence, and they were covered up, but still overall, there have not been pandemics of violence on a large scale.

    The big argument to me, is a lot of white people want to keep their culture, their language, their group identity, and they are being tricked and undermined on that. I think that’s a valid concern

  250. @Jim from Boston

    Can we just lay aside the big, bad, evil media for just once? The MSM was totally vs Bush in ’88, amnd yet he managed to win.

    There was the 1990-early 1992 recession. Let’s not revise history and pretend that there wasn’t a recession going on during the ’92 campaign, because there was. “It’s the economy, stupid!” was Clinton’s campaign slogan for a reason; there was a lot of truth in that line.

    • Replies: @Jim from Boston
  251. @SaneClownPosse

    And yet, Madame Clinton has long suffered delusions of grandeur. Haven’t you heard? She is the smartest woman ever.

    Also, she simply took for granted that she would win the Upper Midwest, much as Obama had done twice before. What she appeared to overlook is that she didn’t poll very well in either the ’08 primary in those states, nor in the ’16 primary vs Sanders. She just assumed she’d carry the day. Also, let’s not overlook the not so unimportant issue regarding her physical health (e.g. her fainting which went viral all over the internet, for one thing). As the surname is Clinton, perhaps there’s quite a lot that she was hiding from the public regarding her campaign.

  252. @Dave Pinsen

    It actually sounds more Reagan than Trump. Doesn’t quite sound like something he’d say in his own words. It’s too wordy, too speechwriter. Not natural regarding how he’d actually speak in conversation.

    It’s very good though, just saying it doesn’t sound like Trump. Sounds more like Reagan.

    • Replies: @Dave Pinsen
  253. BB753 says:

    Stay classy, Bezos!

  254. Anonymous[427] • Disclaimer says:
    @Brad Smith

    About ten years ago I made a concerted effort to get back on the railroad. I did not get hired. I’m certain that had I been a “diversity hire” I would have been hired.

    I know for a fact that several females were hired as conductor trainees who could not, by both their actual admission and simple visual evidence (one was 5′ even and <100 lbs and could not pick up her hogger's grip (duffel bag) that weighed fifty pounds) could not carry a coupler knuckle the specified required distance, or even pick it up. I have nothing against female conductors as long as they can pass the stated requirements and do a good job. I know several that are excellent craftspersons and very much respected. But they are all pretty big women, not fat, but tall and big boned.

    Working as a conductor or brakeman/switchman in freight rail service is somewhat physically demanding on occasion and requires climbing on and all over freight cars and hanging on to them in motion. I'm sure that crewa have sat and went dead, and had to be retrieved by a dogcatch crew and getting a van in some odd and difficult places (or had to be extricated by hyrail) over a knuckle breaking that would have been a half hour job had she been able to carry the item out to the break. Or, the hoghead got off his fat ass and did it himself and kept quiet about it out of chivalry.

    When you have two of these women on the crew, that's not an option.

  255. @Liza

    “Women are inherently more sexually charged than men”

    Inherently? Really? How do you figure that? Which is the gender that tends to go thru menopause and a near total withdrawl from physical relations? Forgot that one, huh? Wanna bet which gender in the US has the most partners during the course of their lives? Didn’t think so.

    “so can afford to lose some of their nerves down there.”

    Oh, women have been losing their nerves every single day of the week for quite a long time. If it’s not over one thing its over another. First there was Occupy Wall Street, and BLM, then there was #MeToo, and after that there was “I’m with her”. And of course for the topper there was “Is Meghan really gaining much by marrying herself to Prince Harry? Is she, or could she possibly hold out for Daniel Craig? After all, Meghan’s sexually charged up the whazoo.”

    Lately, losing nerves definitely has been in the cards for the sisters.

    “But men who’ve had their prepuce removed obtain only relief, not real enjoyment as intended by our creator.”

    Right, men don’t enjoy sex. Especially as much as women. Yeah. Mm-hm. Tell us another one.

    What kind of filth is being posted here as of late? This is totally disgusting! Posting all this…stuff…and no smutty pictures to go with the boring reading that one wouldn’t even find in Sex Ed a la Dr. Ruth. Oh, that’s right, Dr. Ruth is the sex expert on how women can enjoy it even with half their lower nerves gone, yep, yep. Do tell, do tell.

    What IS this stuff anyway? I sure do hope Coulter isn’t reading this kind of….

    Hi, Ann! It’s nothing! Just a bunch of talk about lower nerves and stuff, don’t worry, everything’s cool. It’s not really bawdy whorehouse talk, it’s all up and up and very educational. Everything’s cool.

    • Replies: @Anon
    , @Liza
  256. @Hypnotoad666

    So who’s gonna ask Omar if she was cut as a kid?

  257. @Reg Cæsar

    Believe it or not, Reg, you are wrong here, and Art Deco is right.

    His locution, in this particular instance, is applied for emphasis and contrast. “He /did/ used to write articles” is accurate, because he is putting an inflection on the verb in order to make a point within the larger context of what he is trying to say. He’s saying something subtle, and communication trumps grammar.

    English is a very plastic language.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  258. a reader says:
    @Anonymous

    I learned about Justin Raimondo’s passing thanks to numerous Isteve commenters who mentioned his demise.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  259. Reminds me of their obituary for Joseph Sobran: http://www.dcdave.com/article5/140820.htm

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
  260. Anonymous[405] • Disclaimer says:
    @Ghost of Bull Moose

    Are you suggesting they are dual citizens of Israel? There are something like 27 Jews in Congress and 8 Senators.

    Since all Jews have a free option on Israeli citizenship, aren’t they in effect Israeli citizens?

  261. @MikeatMikedotMike

    When asked which TV show has the most accurate portrayal of politics, Hillary answered “Game of Thrones.” I think Cersei Lannister is her role model.

  262. @David Martin

    Same author of both obituaries:

    Joseph Sobran, 64, conservative columnist and editor

    By Matt Schudel

    Well, at least he’s still stuck in the Obituary Department after all these years.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
  263. johnl0 says:

    I dont know but just want to throw this out as far as those in the MSM enjoy doing this kind of thing. Above what they do as their “job” whatever that means… (from an infamous fictional novel)

    …[the] spokesman was even less fortunate. Someone walked up to him while he was waiting for an
    elevator in the lobby of his office building, pulled a hatchet from under his coat, cleaved the good … [person’s] head from crown to shoulder blades, then disappeared in the rush-hour crowd. [a group] immediately claimed responsibility … After that, it really hit the fan. The governor of Illinois ordered National Guard troops into Chicago to help local police and FBI…

  264. @J.Ross

    a scandal comprehensible to the innumerate (Boeing MCAS, Windows 10)”

    What’s the scandal with Win10, apart from the 27 places where you have to change defaults to stop your data going to Microsoft?

    I’m thinking of finally upgrading to it.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
  265. Anonymous[258] • Disclaimer says:
    @a reader

    Justin Raimondo was a great American and a patriot.

    He wrote a column once on Antiwar.com in which he questioned mass immigration into the United States. It caused quite a kerfuffle at the website and basically the rest of the editorial staff got together and quickly published a disavowal.

    Maybe there are some similarities there to the purge of immigration control positions from environmental protection groups.

  266. @YetAnotherAnon

    http://www.globaltimes.cn/content/1158653.shtml

    “The Global Times’ reporter found that five of the six US contestants were of Chinese descent, including the team leader and deputy leader. Five students of Chinese descent were also found in the Canadian team.

    “The US has paid more attention to mathematics competition and many Chinese-US teenagers are devoted to it,” Yun Zhiwei, a math professor at Massachusetts Institute of Technology, told guancha.cn, adding that “these offspring of Chinese immigrants are as good as students trained in China, which intensified the competition.”

    This year’s victory marks the first time in eight years that all the Chinese contestants won gold medals, media reported.

    Of the 200 Chinese high-school students who participated in the competition since China joined in 1985 there have been 157 gold medals, 35 silver medals and six bronze medals.

    China holds the record for the most gold medals in the competition, followed by the US with 130 golden medals and Russia with 99 golden medals.

    Chinese education and science authorities released a document on July 12, aiming to strengthen math research and study. They said that China will continuously support basic math and strengthen applied mathematics. “

    The UK team all had very British surnames, could have been a 1968 team. On the other hand, they finished 20th.

  267. Anon[308] • Disclaimer says:
    @Yojimbo/Zatoichi

    If the number of heterosexual two-people acts is overwhelmingly higher than the alternatives, the total of sex encounters for all females is roughly equal with that of all males. Since females are slightly more numerous, and incel is mostly a male lifestyle, women have more sex per capita than men.

    From the point you claimed the loss of prepuce doesn’t ruin sex, you lost the debate.

  268. @The Alarmist

    “Nearly every person admitted as a refugee to the US in the past fifty years has transited a “safe” country, at which point they stopped being refugees.”

    Actually, the Indochina exodus, as the Communists swept into Vietnam, Cambodia and Laos, is a great example the perfectly repudiates your assertion.

    The vast majority of those who fled the communists, and survived the journey, were either scooped up at sea, and deposited in a prison camp in the nearest country. Or, if they fled on foot, were imprisoned in a camp in Thailand.

    At those “first asylum” camps, in Malaysia, Hong Kong, Indonesia, and the Philippines, various Western countries interviewed, processed, and sorted the illegal immigrants.

    That process identified those who met the criteria for asylum, and separated economic migrants from refugees.

    The process was well-established and worked as well as any such difficult process could.

    That process would be perfect for processing the current invasion from Mexico.

    • Replies: @The Alarmist
  269. gregor says:
    @Dave Pinsen

    Math isn’t actually dominated by East Asians. They dominate at the earlier levels like on the SAT and on Math Olympiads (a pre-college math competition), but they aren’t dominant at all when it comes to doing original mathematical research.

    http://www.math.harvard.edu/people/faculty.html

    • Replies: @Dave Pinsen
  270. Corvinus says:
    @istevefan

    “It’s very sad to see people with such little self-respect being used to push policies that benefit others.”

    It’s not a lack of self-respect, it’s the liberty of (white) people to disagree with you. Do you enjoy being patently dishonest?

    “I qualify per the Naturalization Act of 1790. I’m good.”

    You mean your ancestors qualified if they met the criteria. Remember, that act changed numerous times to reflect our posterity. Remember, you didn’t built that.

    • Troll: YetAnotherAnon
    • Replies: @Bigdicknick
  271. @The Germ Theory of Disease

    Deco did mangled the grammar. He did used the wrong tense.

    Maybe you can recruit Steven Pinker. Me and him can have it out. After all, he did stood up for other such barbarisms.

  272. @Yojimbo/Zatoichi

    The anti-war LGBTQEDWXYZ+ smoker dude.

    He was a consistent libertarian on that, too. I’ll take him over any of those “straight but not narrow” legislators who point guns at bakeries and florists.

  273. FPD72 says:
    @South Texas Guy

    Perot was not “put in charge” of Texas education. He was appointed by Governor Mark White to lead a citizen committee to propose measures to improve public schools. He worked closely with Lieutenant Governor Bill Hobby to craft legislation that became known as HB 72. In addition to “no pass-no play” the reform measures included the 22-1 student-teacher ratio to limit class sizes, all-day kindergarten and standardized testing for students. Another component — requiring competency testing for teachers — was later phased out.

    Which of these “screwed up” Texas education big time? Since Texas performance on national tests, when adjusted for ethnicity, has gone up relative to other states, I’d say the reforms were somewhat effective.

  274. JackOH says:
    @Dave Pinsen

    Thanks.

    My armchair theory of political revival for Unzianites (?) is to try and recognize how overreaching and incompetent the whole architecture of “civil rights” laws are. To end de jure segregation in the Deep South, all Whites were presumed to be possessed of racial animus requiring permanent remedies. Bullpuckey. It really, in my non-lawyer opinion, suckered a lot of innocent Whites into thinking they were nastier than they actually are.

    Martin Luther King’s content-of-character standard. Yep, that’s a good guidepost for removing the whole “civil rights” legislative and regulatory apparatus.

  275. Anonymous[294] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon

    From the point you claimed the loss of prepuce doesn’t ruin sex, you lost the debate.

    What is the effect?

  276. @Tarheel American

    That process would be perfect for processing the current invasion from Mexico.

    Do we at least get to bomb the hell out of Mexico and Central America first?

  277. @Reg Cæsar

    Nope, you’re still wrong. In English, “used to (do X)” is a complete unit of understanding, similar to being its own word. It is, if I recall correctly, a past imperfect, implying past repetitive action with a strong flavor of the habitual, but it has its own unique colloquial meaning: for instance, it has no present tense. I can’t say, “I use to quarrel about grammar on the Internet,” meaning right now, it sounds absurd.

    I can say, “I used to hang out at Luchow’s” and everybody knows what I mean. I can also say, “Even though I hate German cooking, I /did/ used to hang out at Luchow’s” and people still know what I mean. If I say, “Even though their schnitzel was lousy, I did use to hang out at Luchow’s,” people would look at me funny and blink for a moment, then understand me. If Art Deco had conjugated the thing the way you want, the sentence he wrote, and his entire train of thought, would have ground to a screeching halt while the reader said “whaaaat”?

    In language, fire truck trumps traffic cop.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    , @Reg Cæsar
  278. Paul says:

    Katharine Graham of the Washington Post is like a dead polecat in a well. Good riddance!

  279. @Anon

    “If the number of heterosexual two-people acts is overwhelmingly higher than the alternatives, the total of sex encounters for all females is roughly equal with that of all males.”

    Aha, you had to clarify “hetero”, because you know perfectly well that if we include homosexual two people acts (and homosexuals are definitely more promiscuous than lesbians by at least 20-1), then the total number of sexual encounters puts males over the top. And, in fact, homosexuals are more promiscuous than heterosexual females as well. Again. If surveys were taken as to which gender has had more sexual partners, the number is going to lean more in favor of males rather than females. What is the ancient saying? ‘For sex, women need to find a good reason, whereas men just need to find a good place.’

    “Since females are slightly more numerous, and incel is mostly a male lifestyle, women have more sex per capita than men.”

    Prove it. Oh, that’s right, you can’t. So it’s entirely academic and thus subjective. You are making a logical fallacy that A = C, because A to B, and B to C. However, in this situation it is not a guarantee that women have more sex than men. And, who prey tell are women having sex with? For the most part with men. Thus it is equalling out. Unless you are including official sex workers in your estimates (which in fact the vast majority are women) but of course that doesn’t take into account that: Sex workers is an infinitesimal number of the total number of adult females, so not enough to make an impact.

    Also not mentioned is that studies and surveys are noticing a “sexual recession”, or lack of frequency of sex among the younger generations, particularly Millennials. The incel phenomenon is largely confined to the Millennials.

    “From the point you claimed the loss of prepuce doesn’t ruin sex, you lost the debate.”

    Whatever. Doesn’t ruin sex for whom? So, again, another person claiming that men don’t enjoy sex? An assinine and ridiculous comment. Also, aren’t there trade offs? Those who keep prepuce also have a higher rate of STDs as well as other kinds of illnesses. There is a reason why it has become an overwhelming thing for male infants to undergo, conspiracies aside.

  280. J.Ross says:
    @YetAnotherAnon

    It was much worse than the normally self-defeating Windows release and had two updates that screwed up functions.

    • Replies: @YetAnotherAnon
  281. @Anon

    As you probably are aware, Africans kill and eat albinos for medicinal purposes. With something so barbaric and primitive you might believe they had been doing it since time began. However, I recall reading that its a relatively recent innovation! Just goes to show progress is NOT inevitable.

  282. J.Ross says:
    @Steve Sailer

    In Perfect, a “movie” built around a great aerobics scene and a great Berlin song, the journalist male lead observes that working the obituary desk is the only newspaper assignment where you say nice things about people. Everything was better before.

  283. FPD72 says:
    @Yojimbo/Zatoichi

    Why Bush instead of Clinton? How about more Justice Thomas-like Supreme Court nominees instead of RBG-like nominees? That’s reason enough for me.

    And at least Bush got congressional approval for Gulf War 1, in contrast to Clinton, who got us involved in the Balkans with no such authorization.

    • Replies: @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
  284. FPD72 says:
    @robot

    The ultimate crossover song: hip-hop melded with C&W. It made number one on the C&W chart before getting kicked out because the C&W PTB didn’t consider it country.

    Then because it was both hip-hop and C&W, the song appealed to all the races/ethnicities on the Texas Tech basketball team, which adopted the song as the team’s song on their drive to the NCAA national championship game.

    • Replies: @robot
  285. @Corvinus

    “It’s not a lack of self-respect, it’s the liberty of (white) people to disagree with you. Do you enjoy being patently dishonest?”

    Then why was Steve King’s statement asking which groups had contributed more to human civilization than whites met with such outrage? and why were the hosts on that show using “white” as a pejorative prompting Steve’s response?

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  286. Liza says:
    @Yojimbo/Zatoichi

    “Women are inherently more sexually charged than men”

    Inherently? Really? How do you figure that?

    Women, lots of them, will have sex with unreliable men in spite of risks that are greater than what a man takes and in spite of endless lectures from their parents to be careful.

    Namely: #1 unwanted pregnancy. Not all women want to go thru an abortion; abortion is not some kind of easy cure and they know it. Yet in spite of a terror of pregnancy, they proceed with the act.

    #2 When a woman has sex, she tends to get emotionally attached far more easily than what the man experiences. Hell hath no fury, etc. Every culture and race on the face of the earth knows this.

    #3 Even today in 2019 women who are a little free with their sex organs tend to be looked down on, whereas men don’t have to endure such attitudes. Maybe not so overtly expressed anymore in the western world, but the stigma is still there. Every female knows this even in this goofy feminist age.

    Yet countless girls/women go ahead and have sex anyway, sometimes with all & sundry. In certain parts of the world they cut women’s genitals in an attempt to prevent premarital sex because they understand that women tend to be pretty weak in these matters. I am not defending this practice; why the hell would I do that.

    It is hard not to conclude that women have barely controllable urges.

    Which is the gender that tends to go thru menopause and a near total withdrawl from physical relations?

    Are you talking about middleaged women who are somewhat worn down from childbearing and child rearing plus working at a job, plus most of the housework – or do you mean women who have never endured the strain of bringing up children and everything that goes with it. The latter group, from my observations and what I hear, are a mighty inflamed lot.

    It is wrong to cut anyone’s genitals without their consent. Not even intersexed children. Leave ’em alone. Let them decide when they are older.

    • Replies: @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
  287. @Jim from Boston

    I’d suggest that Ross Perot (unintentionally) enabled Clownworld, as his campaign severely wounded George H.W. Bush in the 1992 Election, leading to the Clinton Presidency and all that unseriousness.

    I dunno. By Current Year standards Bill Clinton was alt-right. He put Haitians refugees in a prison in Arkansas, he passed a tough crime bill, and he (albeit reluctantly) added work requirements for Welfare.

    • Agree: Dave Pinsen
  288. @Ghost of Bull Moose

    Does Omar have a Somali passport?

    Does Somalia even have a government that is capable of issuing passports? I think if you are skinny and black with a thin nose they just let you in.

    But seriously, they don’t seem to have any birth, marriage, death, or divorce records there. No social security = no SSNs. No roads = no drivers licences. I don’t think they have any way of really knowing who’s who, even if they wanted to.

  289. @J.Ross

    I see the Windows 10 defaults send all your browsing details and keystrokes to Microsoft – literally a keylogger in the software. Anyone who has it, I hope you’ve been through the options and disabled everything as below.

    And unless you have Win 10 Enterprise, it sends “telemetrics” to Microsoft and there’s no way of turning them off.

    https://www.extremetech.com/extreme/211208-windows-10s-default-privacy-settings-and-controls-leave-much-to-be-desired

    https://prnt.sc/7ykzbh

    Any operating systems that don’t spy on you?

    • Replies: @J.Ross
  290. Corvinus says:
    @Bigdicknick

    “Then why was Steve King’s statement asking which groups had contributed more to human civilization than whites met with such outrage? and why were the hosts on that show using “white” as a pejorative prompting Steve’s response?”

    “White inventions” or “western science”, while noteworthy in their original ideas and innovations, of course owe much to gunpowder, paper, the compass, and movable type (Chinese), to the number 0 (India), and to the idea of a rule-based, law-giving universal Creator (Middle East).

    Bear in mind that there are few inventions that are “purely” white. Take this comment for example. It depends on the Internet and computers – “white inventions”. But it also depends on the alphabet, a Phoenician invention, and the idea of writing itself, which in the West comes from Egypt. At any point in history, most inventions will come from one part of the world because it is the most advanced at that particular time. So while most important inventions of the past few hundred years were made by white people, that is only because they have been on top during that time frame. The Egyptians and the Chinese had a far longer reign compared to Europeans when it came to technological advancements.

  291. Dave Pinsen says: • Website
    @gregor

    Could that simply be a lag effect?

    • Replies: @gregor
  292. Dave Pinsen says: • Website
    @Yojimbo/Zatoichi

    Trump could personalize it the way he does with other speeches written for him – just interject “So true” “Big problem” and similar as appropriate.

  293. Hail says: • Website
    @JimB

    Let’s make a distinction between the political entity “USA” and “America” (what Peter Brimelow calls the “Historic American nation”).

    America will end in tears

    The political entity “The United States of America,” now sadly hijacked by various kinds of foreigners, will end in tears. Timeframe unclear, but it seems inevitable.

    The ethnonation survives.

    We still occupy the great majority of land area of this continent, meaning we are in good shape, for political-entity successors. There will still be 200 million or so of us in North America by 2040.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  294. @Corvinus

    “law-giving universal Creator (Middle East).”

    Is that why the middle east is so well governed and ancient rome was total anarchy?

    What a farcical comment.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  295. @Yojimbo/Zatoichi

    Excellent counterpoint. Who could forget Dana Carvey’s wonderful SNL skits after all..?

    I think that this 2018 retrospective brings things back more on point…

    Americans voted in the November 1992 presidential election thinking that the US economy was still in recession. The NBER announcement that the eight-month 1990-1991 recession ended in March 1991 wasn’t announced until December 22, 1992.

    http://www.aei.org/publication/president-george-h-w-bushs-bad-re-election-timing/

    Private NBER appears to have leftish slant, but I recall the facts on the economic recovery were out there well before the Election, and the media wasn’t reporting it as ‘news’. It’s still the same basic MSM crew, only more extreme, no..?

    Hey … how’s our booming economy doing as a newsworthy item these days? I’ll need to check in with Rachel Maddow tonite, and then maybe the NY Times in the morning…

  296. @Jim from Boston

    The early 1990s recession started later in California and lingered longer there, which helps explain the huge shift toward the Democrats in California from 1988 to 1992 (well before 1994’s Prop. 187).

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  297. Corvinus says:
    @Bigdicknick

    “Is that why the middle east is so well governed and ancient rome was total anarchy?”

    Thanks for your red herring AND a false comparison all rolled into one. The Middle East bore three major religions which are still practiced today. If you are a Christian, Jew, or Muslim, you owe that region of the world a great amount of gratitude for your belief system.

    The fact is that our human civilization has benefitted from a number of groups, past and present, in some way, shape, or form. Your virtue signalizing is duly noted.

    • Replies: @Bigdicknick
  298. Corvinus says:
    @Hail

    “Let’s make a distinction between the political entity “USA” and “America” (what Peter Brimelow calls the “Historic American nation”).”

    They are one in the same.

    “The political entity “The United States of America,” now sadly hijacked by various kinds of foreigners, will end in tears.”

    WASPs felt the same way when their nation was inundated with outside elements, chiefly Eastern and Southern Europeans. So, if your ethnicity is from that region of the world, you assuredly are not part of the “Historic American nation”. You have to go back.

    “Timeframe unclear, but it seems inevitable.”

    Maybe. Then again, perhaps not.

    “We still occupy the great majority of land area of this continent, meaning we are in good shape, for political-entity successors.”

    We, as in white people? OK, so the “good” kind or the “bad” kind?

  299. J.Ross says:
    @YetAnotherAnon


    they will reach with their helpless hands and cry out “save us”
    and I’ll whisper
    “no.”

  300. Moses says:
    @Corvinus

    Totally. Wypipo really done nothing compared to other races.

    This is not an absurd statement at all.

  301. @Corvinus

    The Phoenicians were “white”. And so were the Egyptians. So were the Sumerians and Babylonians, for that matter. And the Persians. Oh, and also the “Indians” who gave us the concept of zero.

    Sorry to break it to you, Kangz.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  302. gregor says:
    @Dave Pinsen

    From what I can tell, they are better represented in the younger cohorts, but still far from dominant. They’ve had few Fields Medalists and that is only given to people under 40.

    I think the more likely explanation is that there are some characteristics that are orthogonal to IQ that cause them to underperform their IQs (relative to whites) at the higher levels of achievement.

  303. MEH 0910 says:
    @Charles Pewitt

  304. @The Germ Theory of Disease

    If Art Deco had conjugated the thing the way you want, the sentence he wrote, and his entire train of thought, would have ground to a screeching halt while the reader said “whaaaat”?

    No it wouldn’t. Because “use to” and “used to” would be pronounced the same way, for euphony. Just like “a sky” becomes “an orange sky”, and “the end” becomes “thee end”.

    It’s in writing where it makes a difference.

  305. @Steve Sailer

    The early 1990s recession started later in California and lingered longer there, which helps explain the huge shift toward the Democrats in California from 1988 to 1992 (well before 1994’s Prop. 187).

    Wasn’t it more likely the huge shift of Republicans in California towards Nevada, Arizona, Utah, Idaho, Montana, etc?

  306. @Corvinus

    The Egyptians and the Chinese had a far longer reign compared to Europeans when it came to technological advancements.

    And what have the Egyptians done lately, other than rape our foreign correspondents?

    • Replies: @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
  307. @Anon

    From the point you claimed the loss of prepuce doesn’t ruin sex, you lost the debate.

    Since that is almost always lost before one’s first sex act, who has the authority or experience to compare?

    Perhaps John F Kennedy, who was reportedly circumcised as a young adult as treatment for disease.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  308. @The Germ Theory of Disease

    If I say, “Even though their schnitzel was lousy, I did use to hang out at Luchow’s,” people would look at me funny and blink for a moment, then understand me.

    I don’t believe that at all. You’ll half to explain it better.

  309. @Reg Cæsar

    “I don’t believe that at all.”

    What, you don’t believe the schnitzel at Luchow’s was terrible?

    Playing “dueling language Nazis” is always fun, and you’ve been a marvelous sport, but I think this one’s just about out of gas. See you at the next re-enactment… though I always sit out the big “begging the question” brawl.

    Some things are too silly even for me.

  310. @FPD72

    Uh, why exactly did the US have to do the whole Desert Storm thing again? How exactly was Iraq a direct threat to the US? Oh, that’s right, it didn’t pose a threat to the US. And so W. made really sure in ’03 that Iraq wasn’t posing a threat and invaded, just to make it wasn’t a threat to the US. How long did we stay in Iraq? A decade and then some?

    I’m sorry, why exactly is the US in the Middle East (e.g. Syria)? Still? Going on a generation now that we’re still there (and in Afghanistan).

    Shouts out to both Bushes for that! Endless wars, that never ends, just what US wants.

  311. @Jim from Boston

    Then we’ll do it this way since you’re just not getting it…

    In 1992, as an incumbent, it was on Bush to make the case to the voters as to why he should be re-elected. He failed to do so. Period. He couldn’t make his own case by himself. The fact that Ross Perot could take nearly 1 in 5 voters away (and mostly from him), shows that he wasn’t a popular incumbent president. That’s a fact. Even today, no one recalls Bush as a great president, leader, etc. No different than Ford or Carter, for that matter. Think of it this way. Since Bush failed in ’92, Clinton, W, and Obama each have served two terms. That’s roughly a generation. One would have to be pretty incompetent not to get re-elected, especially since the incumbent enjoys all the advantages over the challenger(s). It’s totally unlikely that Ross Perot could’ve challenged Reagan in ’84 the same way, because on a personal level, Reagan was more popular than Bush in ’92. And, Reagan was a far better communicator and knew how to make his case directly to the US voters.

    Let this sink in: The fact that, for the most part, a total unknown entity in national politics, Ross Perot, could directly challenge Bush, sit out for about three months, make a ridiculous choice for VP running mate and STILL garner 19% of the popular vote, is unheard of. If Perot had stayed in the race to the end, and chosen a more seasoned candidate (e.g. a moderate in the mold of say, Sam Nunn of GA, who was very popular in the Senate, well known in the South, and had bipartisan respect), then Perot’s total goes upwards to about 30% of the popular vote, and with some electoral votes as well. For all his flaws, the little Texan did pretty well during the televised debates. So much so that nearly twenty percent of all voters willingly voted for him. If anything, the debates were Perot’s strength: He showed that unlike Bush, he had an actual personality, came across as a genuine person, and spoke in a way that wasn’t condescending. Much like his CNN debate vs VP Gore the following year on NAFTA (something that Bush also favored and wanted to sign). Perot was right about NAFTA’s long term effect on the US economy; shame that no one of importance followed his advice.

    • Replies: @Jim from Boston
  312. @Liza

    “Women, lots of them, will have sex with unreliable men in spite of risks”

    So will lots and lots of men have sex with unreliable women. So this cancels out your point.

    “It is hard not to conclude that women have barely controllable urges.”

    Uh, so do men, duh. Also, once women get pregnant, they cannot (or should not, due to health risks) engage in regular relations during the final trimester of their pregnancy. As men don’t ever have to worry about getting pregnant, they are far more able to acquire more partners at any time of the year. So in theory, men will definitely have more partners over a lifetime.

    Also, as you rightly conclude, which gender has to raise the children, especially if there’s only one parent around? For the most part not the men, who are free from being tied down and thus able to roam about looking for more hookups.

    This is of course in theory. In real time things aren’t always quite so cut and dry. But in all, the advantage and edge will go to the men.

    Also, in ancient times, there was such a thing as polygamy. Where one man would have multiple wives. The practice of one woman having multiple male partners is relatively new in history. And it is very rare indeed, as most men aren’t going to sit still for belonging to a stable, hoping that his turn will come up and she will chose him, alas, but only for that single night of the week/month/whatever.

    • Replies: @Liza
  313. @Reg Cæsar

    That’s actually a good observation. One could say that once Cleopatra committed suicide by asping her self that Egypt has seen better days, and that was well over two millennia. If you want to be technical, Egypt’s glory departed another millennia back in time, so that’s over 3K since the land of the Pharaohs has been relevant in a cultural, technological sense.

  314. Corvinus says:
    @The Germ Theory of Disease

    “The Phoenicians were “white”. And so were the Egyptians. So were the Sumerians and Babylonians, for that matter.”

    Closer to white than black. Why does it bother you so much that these groups probably fall under the designation of white?

    “And the Persians.”

    Persians are similar to Southeastern European nationalities such as Italians, Spanish, Portuguese, Greek, and French.

    “Oh, and also the “Indians” who gave us the concept of zero.”

    Mayans, to be precise. They certainly are in the mix for using zero. “Discovering it”? Not sure about that.

    https://www.storyofmathematics.com/mayan.html

  315. Liza says:
    @Yojimbo/Zatoichi

    It is not a simple matter of “screwing more often = more highly charged”, which appears to be your argument here. I was not referring to frequency of sexual activity. The long-term risks for women having pre- or extramarital sex are greater, much greater, so this would indicate apparently uncontrollable need.

    Men, I think, have sex wherever and whenever they can find it, not so much out of some desperate physical urge but rather to show off to other men. The same reason they might marry beautiful and stylish but ultimately useless or troublesome women. “Look what I’ve got and you don’t!” There is, according to our culture, no more pathetic form of life than the male virgin.

    • Replies: @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
  316. Anonymous[153] • Disclaimer says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    Perhaps John F Kennedy, who was reportedly circumcised as a young adult as treatment for disease.

    Was it herpes?

  317. @Corvinus

    Still waiting on you to name the groups that have contributed MORE than whites.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  318. @Yojimbo/Zatoichi

    So, your points are that:

    1) Bush was a flawed serious candidate, perhaps too serious (personality-wise) to get re-elected, regardless of his meager successes, like the graceful shepherding of the fall of the Soviet Union and the Gulf War. His not-getting-reelected — the only candidate in an entire generation! — is confirmation of his obvious shortcomings.

    2) Perot was a flawed unserious candidate that connected with voters, enabling the electorate to give a poke-in-the-eye to the Establishment, which Bush totally represented.

    3) The media didn’t have any effect in any of this, so let’s leave them out of this.

    Yeah, guess that I don’t ‘get it’ … back to my original point: Hello, Clownworld

    • Replies: @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
  319. nsa says:
    @Ghost of Bull Moose

    The jew changes his name to something anglo sounding, gets a nose job, waves the flag, and makes patriotic noises……and you chrissie cucks buy into the act and grovel before the frauds. Fact: the US has been relentlessly shelling, bombing, droning, invading Somalia going on 30 years, but for what possible reason except the jew wants it? The 2012 Kenyan invasion of Somalia was planned and bankrolled by the US who also provided diplomatic cover, logistics, and targeting support. So is it any wonder that millions of bombed out Somali refugees are on the move, and some of them have washed up on US shores like the Omar ditz, with more coming through chain migration. So again, you unmanly cucks hate on the easy target of one lone silly Somali babe and ignore the conniving jew whose ownership of media, finance, and at least two branches of government allow them to use their US satrap to destroy the muzzie mideast and north africa, causing the refugee problem in the first place.
    Why not stop bombing them and instigating civil wars, curb the bloodthirsty izzie lobby, and chances are the muzzies will stay over there……..problem solved.

  320. Corvinus says:
    @Bigdicknick

    “Still waiting on you to name the groups that have contributed MORE than whites.”

    I responded in a manner that the question was to be answered. You just don’t like the fact that you were made out to be a fool in front of a live studio audience. Now, if you want to debate what ethnic group contributed more to human civilization, then that would be of at substance.

    • Replies: @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
  321. @Liza

    Well, you’re the one going on and on about women’s uncontrollable urges and unhinged lower nerves, etc. My point was that it’s not a given that women automatically have more partners over the course of their lives. History would tend to tilt the advantage more toward the men. Of course, it goes without saying that women are getting something out of it as well.

    “The same reason they might marry beautiful and stylish but ultimately useless or troublesome women. “Look what I’ve got and you don’t!” ”

    Oh, come now. Of the two genders, the one that most loves the public attention, and being made to feel special, it’s women. To suggest that women don’t compete for men’s attention (as men do for women’s affections) is naive. Of course men compete with other men. So what? They like what they like and are uncomplicated that way. Winning is a very important component to the male psyche. It’s the whole ancestral, releasing their inner Conan, of catching the best looking, most desirable woman vs all would be challengers. And you know what? For the most part, women love it too. That an alpha male took the trouble to win her affection vs all other challengers, come on. They absolutely love it.

    “There is, according to our culture, no more pathetic form of life than the male virgin.”

    Unfortunately this is true. Virgin = loser. Can’t get any one. Not a person worth bothering with, etc. Why should a woman take a chance on that kind of person? He hasn’t proven himself vs challengers, and perhaps he doesn’t know how to stand up for himself, etc. It begins to spiral out of control.

    Honestly trying to hear where you’re coming from. Not sure that I do. It certainly isn’t wrong for a man to win the affections and attention of a woman, as they clearly enjoy both. It’s a win-win situation.

    • Replies: @Liza
  322. @Jim from Boston

    I don’t do Rush Limbaugh talking points, as apparently someone else here does.

    Bush won in ’88, largely because of his image “Read my lips…” and guess what? He broke that promise in ’90 with the budget and increased taxes. Which lead to the “It’s the economy, stupid.” Also, another part of Bush’s image was standing tough law and order vs crime (Willie Horton, furloughs etc). Bush ran with this image of being tough vs crime in the election vs Dukakis and it helped him. But, in ’92, rather than stand tough vs the likes of the LA rioters, he had the feds charge the cops who beat Rodney King (form of double jeopardy, as they were originally found innocent). Funny how he couldn’t match his tough talking image of tough on crime when it was needed most in ’92.

    Someone named Reagan, who was president for two terms, had more to do with helping to bring down the USSR.

    2. No, once again, someone is not listening (much less getting it). Perot in fact WAS a fairly serious candidate. His pamphlet “United We Stand” offered the voters a clear distinction on matters of economic, social, and foreign policy. It has been noted that aside from Pat Buchanan, Ross Perot directly paved the way for Donald Trump in ’16. If you voted for Trump, (that’s an “if”), then you have Ross Perot’s official campaign policies (among others) to be grateful for. It was Ross Perot, then and later in ’93, who warned vs NAFTA and the free trade globalism. While now we definitely have fairly conclusive proof that free trade as constructed by globalists has been a bad thing for US jobs, back then besides Buchanan, Perot was the only major presidential candidate making this case. It certainly wasn’t Bush, who very much supported outsourcing US jobs (NAFTA).

    3. The media was vs Reagan in ’80, and majorly big time against him in ’84, but guess what? Reagan won both times. The media was vs Bush in ’88, but he won. The Media was vs W, (in ’00 and in ’04) and big time vs Trump in ’16. Guess what? They managed to win, regardless of what the media said about them.

    So, no. The media, doesn’t have a gigantic enormous influence on voters decisions for president UNLESS there is ample reason for the voters to be very much interested in voting for or against a particular candidate. The media can only highlight or emphasize the noise level that already exists at the grass roots.

    But Perot was fairly serious about the issues he ran on. As shown by his infomercials (going outside the established network media and more directly to the ordinary voters, much like Twitter is with Trump today). Also, the Reform Party had legitimate issues that he ran on. Again, Perot wouldn’t have gotten anywhere in ’84, vs Reagan, if he had tried to run as an alternative candidate because voters, for the most part, were fairly satisfied with how the US was being governed. The fact that things changed eight years later, in ’92, was because people perceived that things were getting worse. Perot, like Trump, offered a legitimate choice for President. Unlike Trump, he wasn’t prime time ready and didn’t know how to effectively run a competent campaign, even though he had a legitimate message. Had he received better campaign advice, he would easily have received at least 30% of the popular vote.

    Perhaps Bush would’ve done well to also run on what got him elected in ’88: No new taxes, tough on crime/law and order. Those are the main reasons he won and what the voters expected from him, not broken promises. But then, that would’ve meant taking stands that could make him unpopular with segments of the voting public, and that wasn’t in his character to do so. We know this, because we have the four years of how he governed as president.

    If anything is clownworld, it’s those Bozos who are attempting to rewrite history and make it appear that Bush was anything but an incompetent, as well as a total tool of the neoconservative New World Order (globalism). Policies that included free trade agreements and ultimately open borders, both of which candidate Perot (and candidate Trump in ’16) ran strongly against.

  323. @Corvinus

    Actually you didn’t directly answer the question. The live studio audience isn’t completely buying what you’re trying to sell. Partly this is on him for failing to make clear that it’s races and not the ever nebulous term ‘groups’ that have directly contributed to civilization (the word civilization itself comes from the French and is Latin in origin, both of whom were white, or of the caucasian persuasion) when the word was originally coined ca.16th century).

    But I have to give a slight edge to Nick in that you didn’t directly answer the question but merely sidestepped it.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  324. robot says: • Website
    @FPD72

    i guess it’s a novelty song like gangnam style– the singer trying to sound dumb (ie, safe)

    using billy ray cyrus must be a calculated attempt at a crossover audience, the thin end of a wedge

  325. Corvinus says:
    @Yojimbo/Zatoichi

    “Actually you didn’t directly answer the question.”

    I answered it the way it needed to be answered.

    “The live studio audience isn’t completely buying what you’re trying to sell.”

    According to Who/Whom?

    “Partly this is on him for failing to make clear that it’s races and not the ever nebulous term ‘groups’ that have directly contributed to civilization…”

    It’s the human race, overall, and ethnic groups, specifically, which have directly contributed to civilization.

    • Replies: @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
  326. @Corvinus

    “I answered it the way it needed to be answered.”

    Answering without answering. Evasion + Obfuscation = lying. A natural politician.

    “According to Who/Whom?”

    Oh, only you get to definite the terms, is it now? But isn’t it more How, and Where, and When, and What?

    “It’s the human race, overall, and ethnic groups, specifically, which have directly contributed to civilization.”

    A blank assertion made without direct evidence. Lack of proof, and thus totally subjective. There is more than one race within modern Homo Sapiens. Which race(s) are you talking about? Which races have directly contributed to civilization? Have all races equally contributed to the progress of humanity?

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  327. Corvinus says:
    @Yojimbo/Zatoichi

    “Evasion + Obfuscation = lying. A natural politician.”

    You assume way too much here. The fact of the matter is that I answered, you do not like my answer, and so you seek to disqualify, disqualify, disqualify.

    “Oh, only you get to definite the terms, is it now?”

    Don’t get testy because I’m only following Mr. Sailer’s lead.

    “A blank assertion made without direct evidence.”

    “Lack of proof, and thus totally subjective”.

    Just as is

    “There is more than one race within modern Homo Sapiens. Which race(s) are you talking about?”

    Let us turn to Madison Grant. By “right on race”, does he mean “correct” or “scientifically accurate” or “empirically validated”?

    Source –> https://www.dartmouth.edu/~hist32/History/White.htm

    “Between 1880 and WWI, the United States experienced large waves of European immigration. These “new immigrants” however did not come from northern Europe and represented a frightening diversity to many. The difference perceived in these immigrants was frequently described as a racial difference in which Europeans were represented as, not one, but many races identified by region (Alpine, Mediterranean, Slavic and Nordic) or by alleged headshape (roundheads, slopeheads). Madison Grant, a biologist and curator for the American Museum of Natural History in New York explained in his book The Passing of the Great Race that White Americans, the great race, were losing out to hordes of inferior European immigrants. Grant’s book was so popular it experienced 7 reprints before WWII. According to Grant, “These new immigrants were no longer exclusively members of the Nordic race as were the earlier ones…The transportation lines advertised America as a land flowing with milk and honey and the European governments took the opportunity to unload upon careless, wealthy and hospitable America the sweepings of their jails and asylums…Our jails, insane asylums and almshouses are filled with this human flotsam and the whole tone of american life, social, moral and political has been lowered and vulgarized by them.”

    As far as littering is concerned, it required a major change in public consciousness.

    “Which races have directly contributed to civilization?”

    All races.

    “Have all races equally contributed to the progress of humanity?”

    Have all ethnic groups equally contributed to the progress of humanity? This and your question is subjective. It’s just like someone trying to promote or context this position–“The white race has contributed to the decadence and destruction of humanity”. What metrics are involved? Which metrics are deemed more important to the conversation? Why?

    • Replies: @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
  328. Liza says:
    @Yojimbo/Zatoichi

    Honestly trying to hear where you’re coming from

    Where I am “coming from” is my observation that women have much more to lose (than men) by partaking in careless sex. Yet, they still go ahead with it, as if those risks don’t exist. Therefore, I have concluded that we women in general really are more sexually charged.

    Over to you and you can have the last word, Yojimbo/Zatoichi.

    P.S. I take it you like Japanese films? Me, too. One of my boys introduced me to them and I even subscribed to Criterion movie streaming so I could see them for as cheap as possible. Lots of nice animated. I am so disgusted with American made movies. About 99% of them are crap, at least the ones made in the past 40 years. Mind you, there’s crap in the Japanese films as well, just not as much.

    • Replies: @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
  329. @Corvinus

    “All races.”

    And that is subjective. Prove it. Or, to use your own questions to answer a question–What metrics are involved? Which metrics are deemed more important to the conversation? Why? So then, what metrics are involved to determine that all races have directly contributed to civilization? How do we prove that all races have in fact contributed equally? How, how, and how?

    Exactly, Corvy. Exactly. How indeed.

    “Let us turn to Madison Grant.”

    Why do you alone decide who the “we” or the studio audience, should turn to? Was he the lone established scientific authority on the topic of race? What about Charles Darwin? Or perhaps for a more modern tome the writings of Nicholaus Wade?

    “Just as is”

    As is that, as is this? XYZ, QED? Non-sequitur trading, yours for mine. Is this/that how it goes?

    “Don’t get testy because I’m only following Mr. Sailer’s lead.”

    I’ve never been testy, Corvy. Though with all the recent talk about female lower nerves, it is a wonder that yours are able to stand up.

    “You assume way too much here.”

    I assume nothing. Assuming makes an ass out of you and me, and thus I never assume.

    “The fact of the matter is that I answered, you do not like my answer,”

    There is considerable reasonable doubt among the studio audience that you did in fact answer the question as was previously brought up. I haven’t yet heard an answer to determine whether or not I dislike it.

    “and so you seek to disqualify, disqualify, disqualify.”

    Rather to clarify, clarify, and clarify. When someone does not make an answer to a question, there is nothing to disqualify, as the question has not yet been answered.

    But I do like this idea of obfuscation–answering a question with another one. A common trait among politicians, gadflys, as well as authentic, legitimate, all around assholes. I do most like it, and will attempt to use it. Thank you for kindly influencing on how to obfuscate, it does wonders most indeed and it is most sincerely appreciated.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  330. @Liza

    I do. And you’re right that they had junk made, even in the golden age of Japanese Cinema. The Zatoichi series ended on a degenerate lower note, in no small part due to the fact that TV in the late ’60’s and ’70’s cut the average weekly film attendance by at least half and the studios desperately had to rely on shock quality to lure back their audiences. For example, the actor who portrayed Zatoichi did a trilogy of films in the early ’70’s known as Hanzo the Razor. I won’t get into the details but they can be found at imdb.com.

    I do hear you, Liza, but I’m saying that men have risks as well. Maybe its best to say that the newer generations have different challenges but that both younger men and women clearly are living in unrestrained times.

    Regarding women, and seemingly out of control, this could be due to a multitude of factors: easy access to birth control; feminism; government welfare; the overall hookup culture as currently in vogue via dating apps and thru social media, traditional morality that once acted as a barrier and constrained women’s urges from getting too out of control is no longer a relevant factor. And that’s a sad thing. Why do fewer and fewer Millennial women have religious faith the way their parents and grandparents once did? What could have happened to make them so anti-religion and so pro-hedonistic lifestyle, carefree, live only for the moment, etc.? Another factor that’s only becoming noted is that more and more women are viewing adult content on the internet. It is no longer a thing for male viewing. As women see these fantasies on their computer, phone, etc. perhaps they are willing to act out in real life what they view.

    A sad commentary on the times we are in, Liza, but apparently it is the truth. Thanks for allowing me to respond to your posts. You’ve been very kind and I wish you the best with the rest of your 2019.

  331. Corvinus says:
    @Yojimbo/Zatoichi

    Why do you alone decide to call it an “obfuscation” when a member of the studio audience already answered a question?

    “common trait among politicians, gadflys, as well as authentic, legitimate, all around assholes.”

    Testy, testy.

    “Why do you alone decide who the “we” or the studio audience, should turn to?”

    That would be a strawman on your part. I merely linked to a man who was a major authority on race. Do you object to his findings? Why?

    Knock yourself out if you want to resolve the relative strengths of various strands of civilization prowess by race.

    • Replies: @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
  332. @Corvinus

    Why do you alone decide to call it an “obfuscation” when a member of the studio audience already answered a question?”

    You did this again, and this is good. Let me try now. Why do you alone decide to determine which source will provide clarification? Why do you alone determine if in fact the question was answered when there is no consensus among the studio audience, which was why they stated that you had not answered the question?

    “Testy, testy.”

    At least we do have them, Corvy. It is becoming apparent that you cannot deduce tone. Not particularly at all. A question was not answered, and thus the studio audience is asking for clarification, of which you still have not provided any.

    “Do you object to his findings? Why?”

    Do you object that this person was not the sole authority on race (which was asked), or are you stating that he is the only authority on race? Why is that? Are there not other authorities on the subject? If not, why not?

    “if you want to resolve the relative strengths of various strands of civilization prowess by race.”

    Why do you still obfuscate by not answering the question? Various strands? Relative strengths indeed. (relative = subjective, and thus open to speculative and inconclusive opinions).

    But once again the question was not answered. Mere questions substituting for answers in its place.

  333. Despicable even for the WaPo.

    • Agree: Liza
  334. res says:
    @Jack D

    If IQ related genes were present on the X chromosome then women would be smarter than men because they’d have twice as much of whatever the X codes for.

    It doesn’t work that way.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X-inactivation

    BTW, as that page mentions, this is what causes the coloration of calico cats and is the reason they are always female (put differently, only female cats can be calico).

    The two X chromosomes do make women less vulnerable to recessive X chromosome based genetic diseases like red-green color blindness.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X-linked_recessive_inheritance

    There is speculation that the X chromosome plays a role in the larger IQ SD for men: https://www.jstor.org/stable/40645737?seq=1#page_scan_tab_contents

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