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In the Washington Post’s Entertainment Perspective section, their movie critic explains that while she knew all along that white male Christians were bad, it’s about time for Hollywood to finally make TV shows and movies in which white male Christians are the bad guys.

Why didn’t anybody ever think of that before?!?

While Hollywood looked for perfect villains, they were hiding in plain sight

By Ann Hornaday
Movie critic
Jan. 15, 2021

… Put more succinctly by John Miller, deputy commissioner of intelligence and counterterrorism at the New York Police Department, in an appearance on MSNBC on Thursday: “It’s taken us aback to see people who look like ‘normal people’ cross that line.”

Miller’s blunt assessment raises the question of what, exactly, passes for “normal people” today. But we know what they’ve looked like for the past several centuries: White. Male. Christian. “Real Americans” — or at least what people mean when they use that term, usually in the course of insisting why someone else doesn’t qualify.

…“The invisible obvious” has had the same effect in Hollywood, which at least since the Cold War has looked for the perfect all-utility villain. With “no-good dirty Commies” decommissioned since the 1990s,

Down at the bottom of this post, I will try to count up how many Best Picture nominated movies over the last 93 years have had “no-good dirty Commies” as the villains.

screenwriters and studio executives tried their best to find convincing personifications of pure evil that would not perpetuate noxious stereotypes or hoary cliches. Having been sensitized to the poisonous symbolism of trotting out yet one more Arab terrorist or African American drug dealer or pimp, filmmakers cast about for figures everyone could loathe: arms dealers, sex traffickers, garden-variety corporate greedheads. …

It turns out that finding the perfect villain wasn’t that hard: they’ve been in our midst for decades, whether they were lurking on the far reaches of the conspiratorial web or watching Fox News at the local pub. They were winning Olympic medals, going to church, wearing fun Hawaiian shirts, servicing swimming pools, selling flowers, fighting fires, walking the beat, maybe even running for Congress.

They look just like “normal people” because they are normal people, at least within the context of America’s long, unresolved history of racism, violence, vigilante individualism and religious zealotry. The fact that they’ve been ignored for so long — by law enforcement and Hollywood alike — shouldn’t stop us from facing the simple and self-evident fact: Too many of our good guys have been the baddies all along.

Ann Hornaday is The Washington Post’s chief film critic. She is the author of “Talking Pictures: How to Watch Movies.” She joined The Post in 2002. Follow

How many movies and TV shows have had white male Christian villains?

I don’t see as many movies as Ann Hornaday does, but I suspect I have better pattern recognition skills.

She’s a pretty hilarious example of media cluelessness: I can tell that White Christian Men are the bad guys just by looking at them: for example, that Covington kid who smirked at the tribal elder … What? … Really? Well, that’s hardly relevant. The point is that I know they are villains by looking at them. But why doesn’t The Media ever point this fact out? Huh? Huh?

How many movies and TV shows have had “no-good dirty Commie” villains? Or, how many have been anti-Communist in theme?

Other than a handful of surprise hit 1980s films like Rambo and Red Dawn, the use of “no-good dirty Commies” in movies as villains was rare. For example, how many James Bond movies have had No-Good Dirty Commies as the main villains?

In this list of Best Picture Oscar winners:

Communists are the bad guys in one movie (The Deer Hunter). I don’t think the movie is particularly against Communism as an ideology, but definitely the Vietnamese Communist captors are very bad guys.

I’d call the Communists neutral in Platoon, in which good vs. evil are embodied in the two American sergeants

The Communist Chinese are the good guys at the end of The Last Emperor;

The Artist has a very brief clip at the beginning from a fictitious silent movie in which an anti-Communist freedom fighter from Free Georgia escapes the nefarious Bolsheviks.

A Soviet spy is a supporting hero in The Shape of Water.

On the Waterfront is said to be a pro-HUAC metaphor, but the bad guys in the plot are mobsters, not Communist screenwriters.

Among Best Picture nominees that didn’t win the Oscar:

Ninotchka has some funny Billy Wilder lines satirizing the Soviet Union,

The Great Dictator ends with Chaplin giving a pro-Communism speech,

The Soviet ambassador is no worse than the Americans in Dr. Strangelove,

In Dr. Zhivago the Bolsheviks are mostly bad guys but in the happy ending the Khrushchev Era Soviet Union is saluted as a near-utopia of magnificent modern hydroelectric dams;

In the comedy The Russians Are Coming, the Russians Are Coming, American small towns people unite with a Soviet subcrew to free their sub from a sandbar before the US Air Force can blow it up;

M*A*S*H barely mentions the Korean War in which it is set;

Nicholas and Alexandra has bad Bolsheviks;

Julia portrays Communists and fellow travelers like Lillian Hellman and Dashiell Hammett as heroes;

Apocalypse Now, with its script by John Milius, is pro-Vietnam War, although Communism doesn’t seem to have too much to do with it;

Warren Beatty’s Reds is pro-Bolshevik;

Missing, about the Chilean coup of 1973, is pro-Marxist

The Right Stuff is about US competition with the Soviets, but the Soviets are treated respectfully

The Killing Fields is about the Communist genocide in Cambodia;

Kiss of the Spider Woman has a Marxist hero

Coming Home, Born on the Fourth of July and Forrest Gump have references to the Vietnam War scenes, but none have much to do with Communism.

The Postman features Marxist poet Pablo Neruda as a supporting hero

The McCarthy Era drama Good Night, and Good Luck is anti-anti-Communist

In The Grand Hotel Budapest, 1960s Eastern Europe is portrayed as dreary in brief flash-forwards compared to the visually dazzling old days.

Soviet spy Rudolf Abel is portrayed positively in Bridge of Spies

So, I come up with 5 anti-Communist Best Picture winners or nominees (Ninotchka, Dr. Zhivago, Nicholas and Alexandra, The Deer Hunter, and The Killing Fields) out of roughly 500 movies that have been nominated. Pro-Communist movies are comparable in number.

In general, Hollywood didn’t pay that much attention to the Cold War.

 
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  1. Even just trying to name any anti-communist movie, let alone one that was nominated for an Oscar, can be challenging. Here are a few:

    The Bridges at Toko-Ri (1954)

    The Secret Ways (1961)

    Torn Curtain (1966)

    The Green Berets (1968)

    Topaz (1969)

    Coming Out of the Ice (1982, TV Movie)

    Stalin (1992, TV Movie)

    Chernobyl (2019, Teleplay)

    • Replies: @Polistra
    @Mr. Anon


    The Bridges at Toko-Ri (1954)
     
    My synopsis: war movie war movie war movie, Grace Kelly, more war movie, then stunning finale and even more stunning epilogue: "Where do we find such men?"

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @hhsiii, @donut

    , @David In TN
    @Mr. Anon

    The Secret Ways (1961) just came out on DVD and Blu-Ray. I've never seen it on a movie channel, TCM included.

    Richard Widmark stars as an American soldier of fortune (his characterization is similar to Widmark's submarine commander in Hell and High Water) hired to rescue a Hungarian scientist wanted by the Russians to escape from Budapest. The problem is the scientist is a staunch freedom fighter who wants to stay and keep up the struggle.

    Phil Karlson was assigned to direct but Karlson wanted to make the story a spoof as he did a few years later with the Matt Helm movies. By the way, the Matt Helm novels are very good with evil communist villains.

    The Matt Helm series as written by Donald Hamilton made James Bond look like a cream puff. Karlson ruined the Matt Helm character.

    Richard Widmark, a liberal democrat BTW, wanted The Secret Ways to be a straight story and is supposed to have taken over the direction from Karlson.

    Replies: @Mr. Anon, @Jim Don Bob

    , @JMcG
    @Mr. Anon

    The Manchurian Candidate.

    Replies: @James O'Meara

  2. Rocky and bullwinkle had boris and natasha as
    Russians villains, I guess commies. Natasha was sexy even when I was 5.

    • Replies: @donut
    @Kanehaole

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JyHuG1ks04A

    , @Known Fact
    @Kanehaole

    But Fearless Leader -- Boris and Natasha's icy boss -- had kind of a Nazi vibe.

    https://lesserknownhusbands.tumblr.com/image/185573709526

    , @flyingtiger
    @Kanehaole

    Boris and Natasha are not Russian villains. They along with Otto Skorzeny like Fearless Leader, are citizens of Spotsivania. That country's export is meanness.

    Replies: @njguy73

  3. …I will try to count up how many Best Picture nominated movies over the last 93 years have had “no-good dirty Commies” as the villains.

    Silly critic. They’re not in the story, they’re in the credits!

  4. Ann Hornaday is merely updating to the Current Year the old WaPo chestnut wherein Stephen Hunter interprets Starship Troopers as a Nazi Plot to subvert the minds of America’s tender youth.

    GOOSESTEPPING AT THE MOVIES

    It’s spiritually Nazi, psychologically Nazi. It comes directly out of the Nazi imagination, and is set in the Nazi universe.

    Sounds sorta Nazi, doesn’t it?

    [MORE]

    They have oddly square faces and broad cheekbones, unprominent noses. They’re blond or at least fair and boast some of the whitest choppers seen this side of a Dentyne commercial. But it’s more than shape and form: Their faces are also somehow uncomplicated, almost cartoon versions in flesh of actual humanity. Van Dien and Richards are particularly noteworthy in this regard. There’s a simplicity and emotionless beauty that’s far too vivid to be coincidental. They are generic. And all through the cast you see other iterations of the same principle: smooth, hairless, square, almost idealized faces. Even the odd token black person in this universe has the same bone structure and close-cropped hair.

    Yep. Even the Negroes are Nazi, that’s how Nazi it is.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Polistra

    Paul Verhoeven grew up watching leftover Nazi movies in postwar Netherlands and he likes the aesthetic.

    , @Not Only Wrathful
    @Polistra

    Starship Troops does have a purposefully Nazi aesthetic though, which is fair enough really. The Nazis didn't gain tens of millions of adherents because their ideology made sense or because they were nice guys, but they had to have something going for them, and it was obviously their sense of style.

    Of course the ideology doesn't own the aesthetic. The artwork at the Hoover Dam is similar. The early Soviet aesthetic is basically the same too. Even Ayn Rand claimed that heroic, romantic art deco may be the last gasp of beauty in the Western spirit.

    The article you link to may be overwrought and overheated, but you're an insensitive soul, in the bad way, if you can't see (and appreciate) the aesthetic expression of Starship Troopers for what it is.

    Replies: @James O'Meara

    , @Peter Akuleyev
    @Polistra

    Seems like you and Hunter both missed the point. Starship Troopers is a film about Nazis, but satirical. Verhoeven was making the point that fascists are still with us. It is meant to be a very anti-American, anti-militarist film.

    Replies: @Bies Podkrakowski, @Polemos, @Jenner Ickham Errican, @Unzerker, @James O'Meara

    , @El Dato
    @Polistra

    Oh WaPo.

    That's like complaining that STOLZ DER NATION is rather Nazi.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p2VUGfrZyck

    , @Chris Mallory
    @Polistra

    Hunter is a gun guy who served two years in The Old Guard. His books have overwhelmingly White protagonists, usually traditional American, rural White men who are comfortable with both guns and violence. In Hunter's world, you can have no better ally than the rural Southern White man or no tougher enemy.

    He usually writes blacks as helpless before the White man. Hispanics get a little better treatment. He tried to introduce a substitute for Bob Lee Swagger, his main protagonist who is getting long in the tooth, with Bob's half Viet son who for some reason has a Spanish name. It must not have sold, since he dropped the character after one solo book. The Japanese get some respect, while other Asians are little more than background clutter or targets to be shot.

    Hunter did write at least one book with German bad guys, set during the war and based around an assassin using a modified STG-44, the rifle was the real star of the book.

    Hunter's usual bad guys are White, almost like he doesn't consider blacks to be worthy opponents for his characters.

  5. @Polistra
    Ann Hornaday is merely updating to the Current Year the old WaPo chestnut wherein Stephen Hunter interprets Starship Troopers as a Nazi Plot to subvert the minds of America's tender youth.

    GOOSESTEPPING AT THE MOVIES


    It's spiritually Nazi, psychologically Nazi. It comes directly out of the Nazi imagination, and is set in the Nazi universe.
     
    Sounds sorta Nazi, doesn't it?


    They have oddly square faces and broad cheekbones, unprominent noses. They're blond or at least fair and boast some of the whitest choppers seen this side of a Dentyne commercial. But it's more than shape and form: Their faces are also somehow uncomplicated, almost cartoon versions in flesh of actual humanity. Van Dien and Richards are particularly noteworthy in this regard. There's a simplicity and emotionless beauty that's far too vivid to be coincidental. They are generic. And all through the cast you see other iterations of the same principle: smooth, hairless, square, almost idealized faces. Even the odd token black person in this universe has the same bone structure and close-cropped hair.
     
    Yep. Even the Negroes are Nazi, that's how Nazi it is.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Not Only Wrathful, @Peter Akuleyev, @El Dato, @Chris Mallory

    Paul Verhoeven grew up watching leftover Nazi movies in postwar Netherlands and he likes the aesthetic.

  6. Nicholas and Alexandra has bad Bolsheviks;

    The Bolsheviks in Nicholas and Alexandra really are bad too – callous, brutal, power-hungry.

    That movie was directed by Franklin Schaffner, who was one of the great unheralded directors of the 1960s / 1970s. He directed Planet of the Apes, Patton, Nicholas and Alexandra, Papillon, and The Boys From Brazil – Three great movies and two pretty good ones.

  7. @Mr. Anon
    Even just trying to name any anti-communist movie, let alone one that was nominated for an Oscar, can be challenging. Here are a few:

    The Bridges at Toko-Ri (1954)

    The Secret Ways (1961)

    Torn Curtain (1966)

    The Green Berets (1968)

    Topaz (1969)

    Coming Out of the Ice (1982, TV Movie)

    Stalin (1992, TV Movie)

    Chernobyl (2019, Teleplay)

    Replies: @Polistra, @David In TN, @JMcG

    The Bridges at Toko-Ri (1954)

    My synopsis: war movie war movie war movie, Grace Kelly, more war movie, then stunning finale and even more stunning epilogue: “Where do we find such men?”

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Polistra

    I saw the last 20 minutes of The Bridges at Toko-Ri on TV when I was a kid and said: Oh, so that's why this is such a famous Oscar-winning movie. But, no, the famous Oscar winning war-in-Asia Oscar movie about a Bridge that I was confusing it with is The Bridge Over the River Kwai. But if my memory from 48 years ago is any good, Bridges at Toko-Ri is awfully good at the end.

    Replies: @Polistra

    , @hhsiii
    @Polistra

    The Grace Kelly part works because it just reinforces Holden’s bitter “why me” attitude. He’s happily married to fecund Grace Kelly.

    Replies: @Polistra

    , @donut
    @Polistra

    Goddamnit haven't you ever heard of "spoiler alerts" ?

  8. You can polish the scuff marks from Nancy Pelosi’s office desk, but the mental scars from the horrors of the attempted white supremacist terrorist fascist coup on American democracy are clearly going to take a lot longer to heal.

    My thoughts and prayers are with Ann Hornyday at this difficult time.

    • LOL: Hibernian, AnotherDad
    • Replies: @Hannah Katz
    @al gore rhythms

    Yes but they forgot to mention that the evil White Christian Males that are really evil are all straight. So really it should be straight White Christian males. Moslems are always the good guys, or just victims of colonialists or something

    Replies: @James Speaks

  9. she knew all along that white male Christians were bad

    WaPo critic chick is Pagan Oaks gang? Did notsee that coming.

    Hornaday on White male Christians:

    They were winning Olympic medals, going to church, wearing fun Hawaiian shirts, servicing swimming pools, selling flowers, fighting fires, walking the beat, maybe even running for Congress.

    They look just like “normal people” because they are normal people, at least within the context of America’s long, unresolved history of racism, violence, vigilante individualism and religious zealotry.

  10. @Polistra
    @Mr. Anon


    The Bridges at Toko-Ri (1954)
     
    My synopsis: war movie war movie war movie, Grace Kelly, more war movie, then stunning finale and even more stunning epilogue: "Where do we find such men?"

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @hhsiii, @donut

    I saw the last 20 minutes of The Bridges at Toko-Ri on TV when I was a kid and said: Oh, so that’s why this is such a famous Oscar-winning movie. But, no, the famous Oscar winning war-in-Asia Oscar movie about a Bridge that I was confusing it with is The Bridge Over the River Kwai. But if my memory from 48 years ago is any good, Bridges at Toko-Ri is awfully good at the end.

    • Replies: @Polistra
    @Steve Sailer

    Well, they both have William Holden in them. David Lean's is the superior film but I like them both.

    Replies: @Larry, San Francisco

  11. In general, Hollywood didn’t pay that much attention to the Cold War.

    MTV had it right: Hanging out in the American Sector is a blast right up until your girl gets yeeted back behind the Curtain.

  12. Off the top of my head, a few movies with Bad Commies:

    The Manchurian Candidate – a Red Chinese/NoKo-brainwashed American Korean War POW veteran mole-assassin as the trigger to a Communist coup in the U.S., but the real villains are the U.S. Senator and his wife who would have been the power-grabbing beneficiaries of the coup. (Did not see the later remake starring D. Washington.)

    The Rack – Paul Newman plays Korean War former POW who survived brutal captivity & torture, ends up convicted at court martial of collaboration during his captivity

    The Hanoi Hilton – American POW’s under brutal North Vietnamese isolation, deprivation, torture

    The Spy Who Came In From The Cold – Claire Bloom plays a naïve British socialist/Communist who’s shot dead by East German border guards while trying to escape over the Berlin Wall. But the British spy Alec Leamas played by Richard Burton is shown as a burnout fed up with both sides in the Cold War.

    Time Limit – Richard Basehart plays former Korean War POW on trial for collaboration with the NoKo enemy

    Big Jim McClain – John Wayne & James Arness play HUAC investigators working to put the kibosh on an American Communist Party (CPUSA) outfit in Hawaii.

    • Replies: @Known Fact
    @Auntie Analogue

    My Son John (1952) was a major motion picture at the time but is now considered the Reefer Madness of virulent anti-Communism. Something about an all-American young man who falls in with the wrong crowd and gets brainwashed into being a Russki spy

    , @SunBakedSuburb
    @Auntie Analogue

    "Bad Commies"

    The Stasi officer in The Spy Who Came In From The Cold turned out to be a former Nazi who was in league with Richard Burton's MI6 bosses. Very realistic in terms of factions and alliances during the Cold War.

    , @cylindrical crown
    @Auntie Analogue

    For a weekly series: "I Led Three Lives". Herbert A. Philbrick.

  13. I thought Red Sparrow was pretty tough on the Russian Communists although I don’t remember it winning any awards,

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
    @Whitehall


    I thought Red Sparrow was pretty tough on the Russian Communists although I don’t remember it winning any awards,..............
     
    They weren't russian communists. That movie was set in contemporary, post-soviet russia. It wasn't supposed to show that communists are bad, but that evil bad Russians are all evil, and bad,.........and russian. That's why all the russians in it are shown as being vile and sadistic and degenerate. I'm surprised that movie didn't feature a cameo by Adam Schiff saying that those evil Russians "hacked our election". Red Sparrow was an exercise in American neo-liberal anti-russian agitprop based on a novel by a former CIA spook.

    And - apart from all that - it just sucked as a movie too.
  14. I like to think the aliens in James Cameron’s Aliens were a metaphor for communist insurgents. And the movie did shamelessly promote us vs them xenophobia. Possibly the most right wing movie of all time? (And if not, just what is the most right wing movie of all time?)

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @enochian

    A lot of big time directors' movies are right wing metaphors.

    , @West reanimator
    @enochian

    It's a feminist movie wherein the women combatants are equally as competent as the men, if not moreso. Not "right wing".

  15. The Killing Fields is about the Communist genocide in Cambodia

    True BUT.

    Isn’t that the one where the heroic reporter suggests Pol Pot’s murderous regime was partly or mostly Dick Nixon and Henry Kissinger’s fault?

    I mean the wonderful Sorbonne-educated Mr. Pot would have never come up with slaughtering the multitudes without the influence of bad white dudes.

    • Replies: @Old Prude
    @Franz

    The Maine Sunday Telegram last week featured a hysterical opinion piece from a gay kid whose parents are immigrants from Cambodia. He went on and on about the terror and oppression he and his LGBTQRST pals are suffering under Trump. He used those words "terror" and "oppression". I kept thinking, "Has this Cambodian fey ever seen "The Killing Feilds"? Has he ever heard of Pol Pot". His parents need to give him a good beating with a bamboo cane.

    Replies: @Franz, @vinteuil

    , @but an humble craftsman
    @Franz

    Kissinger paved the way for Pol Pot.

    Shame on him.

  16. @enochian
    I like to think the aliens in James Cameron's Aliens were a metaphor for communist insurgents. And the movie did shamelessly promote us vs them xenophobia. Possibly the most right wing movie of all time? (And if not, just what is the most right wing movie of all time?)

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @West reanimator

    A lot of big time directors’ movies are right wing metaphors.

  17. One, Two, Three had a memorable scene where Jimmy Cagney hands a guard at Checkpoint Charlie a cola bottle. As the vehicle drives off, the guard smashes the top against a pole and drinks from the shards.

  18. @Polistra
    @Mr. Anon


    The Bridges at Toko-Ri (1954)
     
    My synopsis: war movie war movie war movie, Grace Kelly, more war movie, then stunning finale and even more stunning epilogue: "Where do we find such men?"

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @hhsiii, @donut

    The Grace Kelly part works because it just reinforces Holden’s bitter “why me” attitude. He’s happily married to fecund Grace Kelly.

    • Replies: @Polistra
    @hhsiii

    She's only got a minor role but it's Grace f*ing Kelly.

    I went to look at photos again. She's simply surreal.

  19. Film critics today are basically Comisara checking that the ‘messages’ are the right ones. I doubt Horny-a-day has any insight or even knowledge about film making.

    Down at the bottom of this post, I will try to count up how many Best Picture nominated movies over the last 93 years have had “no-good dirty Commies” as the villains.

    Talk about missing the point. I think there were more films with Russians as villains AFTER communism. They really hate post-soviet Russia.

    A more interesting idea would be to show how many “White male christian” villains are there in film and TV these days, as opposed to noble, good, heroic Blacks.

    Just from the top of my mind, I can think of several, and almost all Netflix series has at least one good Black guy and one bad White guy, but never or rarely the opposite.

    • Replies: @Forbes
    @Dumbo

    The role-playing propaganda is huge. Hell, three-quarters of all new shows/series feature female leads, whereas in reality they represent no more than 10% of the jobs or positions portrayed.

    Can anyone name a recent movie or series where a strong male lead carried the show, without wild-ass personal compromise and conflict that effectively makes him psychologically broken??

    , @Pierre de Craon
    @Dumbo


    I think there were more films with Russians as villains AFTER communism. They [i.e., (((They)))] really hate post-Soviet Russia.
     
    This very fact was noted drily by Joseph Sobran back in the nineties: "It took the fall of communism to make Hollywood lose its respect for Russia."
  20. @Steve Sailer
    @Polistra

    I saw the last 20 minutes of The Bridges at Toko-Ri on TV when I was a kid and said: Oh, so that's why this is such a famous Oscar-winning movie. But, no, the famous Oscar winning war-in-Asia Oscar movie about a Bridge that I was confusing it with is The Bridge Over the River Kwai. But if my memory from 48 years ago is any good, Bridges at Toko-Ri is awfully good at the end.

    Replies: @Polistra

    Well, they both have William Holden in them. David Lean’s is the superior film but I like them both.

    • Replies: @Larry, San Francisco
    @Polistra

    William Holden was a great actor. Kind of forgotten now but I forced my children to watch 5 of his best movies.
    1. Bridge over the River Kwai
    2. Bridges Toko Ri
    3. Sunset Boulevard
    4. Stalag 17
    5. The Wild Bunch

    They loved them.

    As for anti Commie movies has anyone mentioned Red Dawn it was stupid buy enjoyable

    Replies: @James O'Meara

  21. @hhsiii
    @Polistra

    The Grace Kelly part works because it just reinforces Holden’s bitter “why me” attitude. He’s happily married to fecund Grace Kelly.

    Replies: @Polistra

    She’s only got a minor role but it’s Grace f*ing Kelly.

    I went to look at photos again. She’s simply surreal.

    • Agree: David In TN
  22. The NYT PAID for this?

    • Agree: James Speaks
    • Replies: @Mark Spahn (West Seneca, NY)
    @Redneck farmer

    "The NYT PAID for this?"

    Paid for what? A movie commentary in the Washington Post?

  23. OT

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jan/16/covid-vaccine-black-people-unlikely-covid-jab-uk

    The figures come from the UK Household Longitudinal Study, which conducts annual interviews to gain a long-term perspective on British people’s lives.

    In late November, the researchers contacted 12,035 participants to investigate the prevalence of coronavirus vaccine hesitancy in the UK, and whether certain subgroups were more likely to be affected by it.

    Overall, the study found high levels of willingness to be vaccinated, with 82% of people saying they were likely or very likely to have the jab – rising to 96% among people over the age of 75.

    Women, younger people and those with lower levels of education were less willing, but hesitancy was particularly high among people from black groups, where 72% said they were unlikely or very unlikely to be vaccinated. Among Pakistani and Bangladeshi groups this figure was 42%. Eastern European groups were also less willing.

    Back on topic, where are the jokes on Ms Hornaday’s surname? Does she live up to it?

    Revealing if dull interview here

    https://alumnae.smith.edu/spotlight/critics-choice/

    Ask The Washington Post’s chief film critic Ann Hornaday ’82 about her days at Smith, and she’ll recall stories about protests and sit-ins and marches. “It was a very politically engaged time,” she says. While a student, the government major worked tirelessly for several popular causes of the time, including protesting against nuclear proliferation and the war in El Salvador, and advocating for a segment of staff seeking equal retirement benefits…

    I had two choices: Move to Washington, D.C., and find a job either at a think tank or a nonprofit, or go to New York and try to make it as a writer (she’s from Des Moines btw).

    As a journalist I have to be neutral, but obviously my own experiences and passions and beliefs are going to inform my work. I believe transparency is the best policy. I think the people who read me consistently can accuse me of being a bleeding-heart liberal, and that’s a fair point.

    Also OT – it seems the late Patricia Highsmith was as unpleasant and messed up as her books – I found them well-written and readable, but pretty evil. Tom Ripley seems to have been what she would like to have been.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9129857/Diaries-Talented-Mr-Ripley-author-Patricia-Highsmith-reveal-based-murderers-herself.html

    • Replies: @International Jew
    @YetAnotherAnon


    hesitancy was particularly high among people from black groups

     

    Must be ancestral memories of the infamous Tuskegeeshire experiment.
  24. @Kanehaole
    Rocky and bullwinkle had boris and natasha as
    Russians villains, I guess commies. Natasha was sexy even when I was 5.

    Replies: @donut, @Known Fact, @flyingtiger

  25. @Polistra
    @Mr. Anon


    The Bridges at Toko-Ri (1954)
     
    My synopsis: war movie war movie war movie, Grace Kelly, more war movie, then stunning finale and even more stunning epilogue: "Where do we find such men?"

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @hhsiii, @donut

    Goddamnit haven’t you ever heard of “spoiler alerts” ?

    • LOL: JMcG
  26. Presented merely as somewhat relevant data. I know very little of this matter.

    Ben Shapiro’s first ‘movie for conservatives’ isn’t bad…

    Is Run Hide Fight a great movie? No. But it also isn’t a bad movie. To its credit, it is, like the vast majority of Hollywood’s output, just a plain old regular movie. But that is a huge first baby step for conservatives trying to get into the pop culture game.

    https://www.rt.com/op-ed/512679-run-hide-fight-shapiro-conservative-movie/

    The right is losing political battles because they aren’t even bothering to take part in the culture war

    https://www.rt.com/op-ed/506854-right-losing-political-culture-war/

    Definitely agree with that point. The MSM ‘culture’ controls the minds of the masses–naturally enough.

  27. Other than Muslim Arabs, White Christian males don’t have much competition in villain stats in Hollywood.

    Wait…

    • Agree: Charon
    • Replies: @Forbes
    @Altai

    That must be why Tom Clancy's "The Sum of All Fears" movie was produced with neo-Nazi terrorists, rather than the Arab Muslim terrorists in the novel. Before 9/11.

    Because neo-Nazi terrorists were prominent throughout the late '90s.

    Replies: @HA

  28. @Polistra
    Ann Hornaday is merely updating to the Current Year the old WaPo chestnut wherein Stephen Hunter interprets Starship Troopers as a Nazi Plot to subvert the minds of America's tender youth.

    GOOSESTEPPING AT THE MOVIES


    It's spiritually Nazi, psychologically Nazi. It comes directly out of the Nazi imagination, and is set in the Nazi universe.
     
    Sounds sorta Nazi, doesn't it?


    They have oddly square faces and broad cheekbones, unprominent noses. They're blond or at least fair and boast some of the whitest choppers seen this side of a Dentyne commercial. But it's more than shape and form: Their faces are also somehow uncomplicated, almost cartoon versions in flesh of actual humanity. Van Dien and Richards are particularly noteworthy in this regard. There's a simplicity and emotionless beauty that's far too vivid to be coincidental. They are generic. And all through the cast you see other iterations of the same principle: smooth, hairless, square, almost idealized faces. Even the odd token black person in this universe has the same bone structure and close-cropped hair.
     
    Yep. Even the Negroes are Nazi, that's how Nazi it is.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Not Only Wrathful, @Peter Akuleyev, @El Dato, @Chris Mallory

    Starship Troops does have a purposefully Nazi aesthetic though, which is fair enough really. The Nazis didn’t gain tens of millions of adherents because their ideology made sense or because they were nice guys, but they had to have something going for them, and it was obviously their sense of style.

    Of course the ideology doesn’t own the aesthetic. The artwork at the Hoover Dam is similar. The early Soviet aesthetic is basically the same too. Even Ayn Rand claimed that heroic, romantic art deco may be the last gasp of beauty in the Western spirit.

    The article you link to may be overwrought and overheated, but you’re an insensitive soul, in the bad way, if you can’t see (and appreciate) the aesthetic expression of Starship Troopers for what it is.

    • Replies: @James O'Meara
    @Not Only Wrathful

    Much to agree with, but first this false step:

    "The Nazis didn’t gain tens of millions of adherents because their ideology made sense or because they were nice guys, but they had to have something going for them, and it was obviously their sense of style."

    Next you'll be saying people voted for Trump because of his sense of humor. The Nazis gained millions of followers because they had great ideas. It's a fair point that even when Hitler was appointed Chancellor the Nazis still had less than a majority (which doesn't really matter in a parliamentary system, just like the Electoral College), but in office they proved themselves worthy of support. The economic recovery was not brought about by snappy uniforms and songs (although building national unity was a part of it), and most fair observers agreed in principle with the recovery of historic German lands.

    Even the eugenics stuff was just catching up with the American progressive states like Oregon etc.

    Replies: @Not Only Wrathful

  29. @Franz

    The Killing Fields is about the Communist genocide in Cambodia
     
    True BUT.

    Isn't that the one where the heroic reporter suggests Pol Pot's murderous regime was partly or mostly Dick Nixon and Henry Kissinger's fault?

    I mean the wonderful Sorbonne-educated Mr. Pot would have never come up with slaughtering the multitudes without the influence of bad white dudes.

    Replies: @Old Prude, @but an humble craftsman

    The Maine Sunday Telegram last week featured a hysterical opinion piece from a gay kid whose parents are immigrants from Cambodia. He went on and on about the terror and oppression he and his LGBTQRST pals are suffering under Trump. He used those words “terror” and “oppression”. I kept thinking, “Has this Cambodian fey ever seen “The Killing Feilds”? Has he ever heard of Pol Pot”. His parents need to give him a good beating with a bamboo cane.

    • Replies: @Franz
    @Old Prude


    a gay kid whose parents are immigrants from Cambodia
     
    Is the good old USA getting enriched or what? Amazing!

    No empire prior to the twentieth century let drifters from freed colonies or failed wars come to a new home on the empire's soil. Not with highly paid sponsors like the Knights of Columbus or the Hebrew Immigrant Aid organizations.

    Did the Brits start this with their Commonwealth immigration? While the old empires did get riffraff from their colonies, citizens already there were allowed to say what they pleased about their neighborhood turning into crappola.

    We not only can't refuse them. As the New Untouchables, we're expected to adjust to our superiors from abroad without a peep of protest. This can't go on.
    , @vinteuil
    @Old Prude


    He went on and on about the terror and oppression he and his LGBTQRST pals are suffering under Trump.
     
    Most of the gay men I know are like this, now: hysterical feminized ninnies, completely unreachable by facts or evidence.

    Replies: @Peter D. Bredon

  30. The Communist Chinese are the good guys at the end of The Last Emperor;

    I didn’t read it that way, but maybe I was bringing my anti-Communist bias with me.

    Apocalypse Now, with its script by John Milius, is pro-Vietnam War, although Communism doesn’t seem to have too much to do with it;

    Fair enough. „Communism” as an ideology wasn’t really what was motivating Hanoi. It was a combination of nationalism and a group of second tier intellectuals trying to destroy what they saw as a corrupt elite that had colluded with French colonials.

    In reality communism, meaning a serious attempt to create a society along Marxist lines, probably died in the 1930s, as it failed miserably and had to be replaced by Stalinism. Every ruling Communist Party since has just been disguised neo Russian imperialism or Asian anti-colonialism. This is one reason former Communists like Putin found it so easy to move into the new era.

    Marxist Communism really only survives among well educated Westerners with no practical life experience.

    • Replies: @fnn
    @Peter Akuleyev

    "Communism" was a subsidiary of Western banker progressivism from the beginning. Wilson vetoed the Brit plan to replace the Bolsheviks with he considered to be distasteful remnants of the Old Regime and Western capitalists built the Soviet industrial base in the 1920s and 1930s.

  31. Yawn ….. Non articles from non-people about non-people ….

    https://www.popmatters.com/182635-in-defense-of-ann-hornaday-no-matter-what-judd-apatow-and-seth-rogen-2495651394.html

    In Defense of Ann Hornaday, No Matter What Judd Apatow and Seth Rogen Say

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Bardon Kaldian

    After all, think how many more times Ann Hornaday has made you laugh compared to Judd Apatow and Seth Rogen.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    , @Richard B
    @Bardon Kaldian


    Yawn ….. Non articles from non-people about non-people ….
     
    Yep. Absolutely. Every article chock-o-block full of hyperbole, cliches, self-pity masquerading as self-importance, unconscious violations of their own logic, and just plain bad writing. But, every once in a while, it's fun to point it out. So....

    Hyperbole:

    Celebrated Washington Post film critic Ann Hornaday
     
    Newspeak for Media Hack.

    Cliches:

    'the true alpha male,'
     

    "For generations, mass entertainment has been overwhelmingly controlled by white men, whose escapist fantasies so often revolve around vigilantism and sexual wish-fulfillment
     
    Self-Pity Masquerading as Self-Importance:

    If anything, the Internet has made the world a cruel, cruel place to be for cultural critics.
     
    Unconscious Violations of Their Own Logic:

    "For generations, mass entertainment has been overwhelmingly controlled by white men, whose escapist fantasies so often revolve around vigilantism and sexual wish-fulfillment
     
    Why would anyone poweful enough to control a multi-billion dollar enterprise like Hollywood need to indulge in espapist fanatasies and wish-fulfillment? (c. Media Hack above). Oh, and by the way, Hollywood isn't run by white men.

    And Just Plain Bad Writing:

    The common insatiable desire for interaction and connection that we all share has been afforded the tools to make such impulses not only more readily available, but also imperative. Imperative to submit to. Imperative to utilize.
     

    Replies: @Harry Baldwin

  32. A different question – what was the last Hollywood movie with a major black villain and white people as the good guys? Live and Let Die?

    • Agree: Harry Baldwin
    • Replies: @Harry Baldwin
    @Peter Akuleyev

    There's a Steven Seagal, movie, Marked for Death (1990) in which Seagal is up against vicious Jamaican drug dealers. It struck me as quite risqué that all the bad guys Seagal was beating up and killing were black. I'd never seen anything like that before. Even in Death Wish (1974), which was controversial at the time, Bronson killed an unrealistically multiracial assortment of muggers. The fact that some were black was enough to upset liberal critics.

    Replies: @Aeronerauk, @Joe Stalin, @David In TN, @Peter Akuleyev

    , @El Dato
    @Peter Akuleyev

    You can't stop Wakanda

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wzsggsf6-iE

    , @Anonymous
    @Peter Akuleyev

    I haven't seen it, but I know in the comic book movie Aquaman the character Black Manta appears, who is black in both his comic book and film versions.

    , @kimchilover
    @Peter Akuleyev

    Carl Franklin's (a black American director far more gifted then Spike Lee) "One False Move." It stars Bill Paxton and was written by Billy Bob Thorton and has a black psychopath as the villan. Worth checking out.

    , @Jokah Macpherson
    @Peter Akuleyev

    Does Star Wars count?

    , @BenKenobi
    @Peter Akuleyev

    Demolition Man

    , @Jenner Ickham Errican
    @Peter Akuleyev


    what was the last Hollywood movie with a major black villain and white people as the good guys? Live and Let Die?
     
    2014’s Kingsman: The Secret Service. Samuel L. Jackson’s villain character was a (reverse) twofer: Black and gay.
  33. I think you are too hard on Zhivago. I find pretty much all of the commies in that film to be chilling: brutal, fanatical and ruthless (Alec Guinness does inject a hint of humanity into his character but he isn’t exactly warm). In my view it hardly has a happy ending, just the promise of endless work and dreary conformity.

  34. OT

    https://www.bmj.com/content/372/bmj.n149

    Doctors in Norway have been told to conduct more thorough evaluations of very frail elderly patients in line to receive the Pfizer BioNTec vaccine against covid-19, following the deaths of 23 patients shortly after receiving the vaccine.

    “It may be a coincidence, but we aren’t sure,” Steinar Madsen, medical director of the Norwegian Medicines Agency (NOMA), told The BMJ. “There is no certain connection between these deaths and the vaccine.”

    The agency has investigated 13 of the deaths so far and concluded that common adverse reactions of mRNA vaccines, such as fever, nausea, and diarrhoea, may have contributed to fatal outcomes in some of the frail patients.

    “There is a possibility that these common adverse reactions, that are not dangerous in fitter, younger patients and are not unusual with vaccines, may aggravate underlying disease in the elderly,” Madsen said. “We are not alarmed or worried about this, because these are very rare occurrences and they occurred in very frail patients with very serious disease,” he emphasised. “We are now asking for doctors to continue with the vaccination, but to carry out extra evaluation of very sick people whose underlying condition might be aggravated by it.” This evaluation includes discussing the risks and benefits of vaccination with the patient and their families to decide whether or not vaccination is the best course.

    More than 20 000 doses of the vaccine have been administered over the past few weeks in Norway and around 400 deaths normally occur among care home residents every week.

    The Paul Ehrlich Institute in Germany is also investigating 10 deaths shortly after covid-19 vaccination.

    Asked if any deaths had occurred in UK patients after vaccination, the UK’s Medicines and Healthcare Products Regulatory Agency (MHRA) said that details of all suspected reactions reported in association with approved covid-19 vaccines would be published along with its assessment of the data on a regular basis in the future.

    I think the Brit response means “bloody hell! We were anticipating somewhat milder side-effects, oh dear, we’ll have to tweak and roll out new reporting protocols which people who’ve done the first reporting will ignore“. I might be being unfair.

    If deaths within 30 days of a positive Covid diagnosis are Covid deaths, are deaths within 30 days of vaccination counted as vaccination deaths? I imagine there will be a lot of pressure to answer ‘no’ to that one.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @YetAnotherAnon

    The Adverse Events from the second dose of the Moderna vaccine in the clinical trial appeared to me to be pretty heavy. But I'm no expert. The Moderna vaccine is 3.3 times the volume of the Pfizer vaccine, which might be why the Operation Warp Speed experts are considering cutting the Moderna dosage in half.

    The Biden team announced today that they were going to be changing the name of Operation Warp Speed to something else.

    Replies: @Jack D, @Jonathan Mason

  35. @Polistra
    Ann Hornaday is merely updating to the Current Year the old WaPo chestnut wherein Stephen Hunter interprets Starship Troopers as a Nazi Plot to subvert the minds of America's tender youth.

    GOOSESTEPPING AT THE MOVIES


    It's spiritually Nazi, psychologically Nazi. It comes directly out of the Nazi imagination, and is set in the Nazi universe.
     
    Sounds sorta Nazi, doesn't it?


    They have oddly square faces and broad cheekbones, unprominent noses. They're blond or at least fair and boast some of the whitest choppers seen this side of a Dentyne commercial. But it's more than shape and form: Their faces are also somehow uncomplicated, almost cartoon versions in flesh of actual humanity. Van Dien and Richards are particularly noteworthy in this regard. There's a simplicity and emotionless beauty that's far too vivid to be coincidental. They are generic. And all through the cast you see other iterations of the same principle: smooth, hairless, square, almost idealized faces. Even the odd token black person in this universe has the same bone structure and close-cropped hair.
     
    Yep. Even the Negroes are Nazi, that's how Nazi it is.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Not Only Wrathful, @Peter Akuleyev, @El Dato, @Chris Mallory

    Seems like you and Hunter both missed the point. Starship Troopers is a film about Nazis, but satirical. Verhoeven was making the point that fascists are still with us. It is meant to be a very anti-American, anti-militarist film.

    • Agree: TWS, Lurker
    • Troll: Charon
    • Replies: @Bies Podkrakowski
    @Peter Akuleyev

    From what I've heard Verhoeven career suffered from this abomination. If so, there is some justice out there.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    , @Polemos
    @Peter Akuleyev

    I didn't read Polistra as missing the point but instead making a point using subtlety and sarcasm. Polistra was making the point that eggheads are still with us and still . . . missing points.

    Replies: @Polistra

    , @Jenner Ickham Errican
    @Peter Akuleyev


    Starship Troopers is a film about Nazis, but satirical.
     
    Yes. Showing Nazis as good-looking, technologically advanced killers of horrible aliens, who do so while maintaining a humorous gung-ho esprit de corps, is a satire on Nazism.

    Steve Sailer – December 13, 2018 at 7:28 am GMT

    Verhoeven grew up on old Nazi movies and they have a lot of influence on him, which he plays off as satire.
     
    https://www.unz.com/isteve/barack-obama-as-an-example/#comment-2694419

    Replies: @Aeronerauk, @Peter Akuleyev

    , @Unzerker
    @Peter Akuleyev


    It is meant to be a very anti-American, anti-militarist film.
     
    I remember Dutch journalists being amazed that Americans didn't get this. Because it's done in such a crude way. He's literally comparing American militarism and over the top nationalism with Nazism.

    My fellow Dutchmen are usually not subtle at all. Very on the nose. And Verhoeven is, even for us, very crude in the way he presents things.
    , @James O'Meara
    @Peter Akuleyev

    Speaking of being still with us, anyone else re-watch ST recently, see SS Col. Dougie Howser, and realize, Hey, that's our Jason Jorjani!

    https://nphfan.files.wordpress.com/2011/04/st-06.png

  36. You can tell Ann Hornaday is bad just by reading her.

    She also looks exactly like I thought she would.

    The ancient Greeks were right, Ugly face, Ugly soul.

    • Replies: @James O'Meara
    @Richard B

    She thinks the glasses make her look like Tina Fey. She's wrong.

  37. The article Steve comments on is dumb.

    Simply- there is no “pure evil”. Nazis, Communists, ….were not “pure evil”, but people motivated by complex web of social, economic, psychological, political, ideological,… forces.

    This horny Ann writes from a mentality of an infantile adolescent. WP is …. what? A serious paper?

    Or some kind of pulp?

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Bardon Kaldian

    The previous Washington Post film critic was Stephen Hunter, the only movie reviewer to win a Pulitzer Prize since Roger Ebert in the 1970s.

    , @Forbes
    @Bardon Kaldian


    The article Steve comments on is dumb.
     
    Then it qualifies under one of the iSteve content generator categories, especially as it's from the WaPo.
  38. @Peter Akuleyev
    A different question - what was the last Hollywood movie with a major black villain and white people as the good guys? Live and Let Die?

    Replies: @Harry Baldwin, @El Dato, @Anonymous, @kimchilover, @Jokah Macpherson, @BenKenobi, @Jenner Ickham Errican

    There’s a Steven Seagal, movie, Marked for Death (1990) in which Seagal is up against vicious Jamaican drug dealers. It struck me as quite risqué that all the bad guys Seagal was beating up and killing were black. I’d never seen anything like that before. Even in Death Wish (1974), which was controversial at the time, Bronson killed an unrealistically multiracial assortment of muggers. The fact that some were black was enough to upset liberal critics.

    • Agree: Charon
    • Replies: @Aeronerauk
    @Harry Baldwin

    To Seagal's credit the Jamaican gang and its leader are portrayed as cunning and in the process of replacing the white mafia's hold on the drug trade. Their portrayal is pretty flattering if you ignore the criminal element... and also any time one of the Jamaicans decide to fight Seagal.

    Great memories of watching this and other early Seagal flicks with my father.

    Replies: @anon, @Harry Baldwin

    , @Joe Stalin
    @Harry Baldwin

    In the DVD commentary for the 1985 Commando Rae Dawn Chong talks of the small Mexicans being destroyed by Arnold where that scene was shot.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BMyHYFOan1I
    [53:20]

    She talks here of being cast in that movie.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S5tNRZQXXlk

    Not a whiner at this point in her career.

    Replies: @anon

    , @David In TN
    @Harry Baldwin

    I saw Seagal's Marked for Death (1990) on a movie channel years ago. I think its the only "crime" story movie I can recall with black villains.

    Around 2007 a movie based on the 2006 book co-authored by former SFPD Chief Earl Sanders on the 1973-74 Zebra murders was announced. Jamie Foxx was supposed to star as a black detective solving the murder spree. Actually, Sanders and his partner did NOT solve the crimes. They were just two detectives among many others. Practically the whole SFPD was on it.

    There was a bit of an outcry that the premise of Sanders solving the case was false. The book he co-authored is mainly wailing about how he was discriminated against. The murders are almost secondary.

    As it happened the movie was not made. Most likely it was decided a movie with blacks brutally murdering whites wholesale was not a good idea.

    Replies: @Mr. Anon

    , @Peter Akuleyev
    @Harry Baldwin

    So both Live and Let Die and Marked for Death have black villains from the Caribbean, not American blacks . That sort of underlines the point.

  39. @Polistra
    Ann Hornaday is merely updating to the Current Year the old WaPo chestnut wherein Stephen Hunter interprets Starship Troopers as a Nazi Plot to subvert the minds of America's tender youth.

    GOOSESTEPPING AT THE MOVIES


    It's spiritually Nazi, psychologically Nazi. It comes directly out of the Nazi imagination, and is set in the Nazi universe.
     
    Sounds sorta Nazi, doesn't it?


    They have oddly square faces and broad cheekbones, unprominent noses. They're blond or at least fair and boast some of the whitest choppers seen this side of a Dentyne commercial. But it's more than shape and form: Their faces are also somehow uncomplicated, almost cartoon versions in flesh of actual humanity. Van Dien and Richards are particularly noteworthy in this regard. There's a simplicity and emotionless beauty that's far too vivid to be coincidental. They are generic. And all through the cast you see other iterations of the same principle: smooth, hairless, square, almost idealized faces. Even the odd token black person in this universe has the same bone structure and close-cropped hair.
     
    Yep. Even the Negroes are Nazi, that's how Nazi it is.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Not Only Wrathful, @Peter Akuleyev, @El Dato, @Chris Mallory

    Oh WaPo.

    That’s like complaining that STOLZ DER NATION is rather Nazi.

  40. @Peter Akuleyev
    A different question - what was the last Hollywood movie with a major black villain and white people as the good guys? Live and Let Die?

    Replies: @Harry Baldwin, @El Dato, @Anonymous, @kimchilover, @Jokah Macpherson, @BenKenobi, @Jenner Ickham Errican

    You can’t stop Wakanda

  41. @YetAnotherAnon
    OT

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jan/16/covid-vaccine-black-people-unlikely-covid-jab-uk


    The figures come from the UK Household Longitudinal Study, which conducts annual interviews to gain a long-term perspective on British people’s lives.

    In late November, the researchers contacted 12,035 participants to investigate the prevalence of coronavirus vaccine hesitancy in the UK, and whether certain subgroups were more likely to be affected by it.

    Overall, the study found high levels of willingness to be vaccinated, with 82% of people saying they were likely or very likely to have the jab – rising to 96% among people over the age of 75.

    Women, younger people and those with lower levels of education were less willing, but hesitancy was particularly high among people from black groups, where 72% said they were unlikely or very unlikely to be vaccinated. Among Pakistani and Bangladeshi groups this figure was 42%. Eastern European groups were also less willing.
     

    Back on topic, where are the jokes on Ms Hornaday's surname? Does she live up to it?

    Revealing if dull interview here

    https://alumnae.smith.edu/spotlight/critics-choice/


    Ask The Washington Post’s chief film critic Ann Hornaday ’82 about her days at Smith, and she’ll recall stories about protests and sit-ins and marches. “It was a very politically engaged time,” she says. While a student, the government major worked tirelessly for several popular causes of the time, including protesting against nuclear proliferation and the war in El Salvador, and advocating for a segment of staff seeking equal retirement benefits...

    I had two choices: Move to Washington, D.C., and find a job either at a think tank or a nonprofit, or go to New York and try to make it as a writer (she's from Des Moines btw).

    As a journalist I have to be neutral, but obviously my own experiences and passions and beliefs are going to inform my work. I believe transparency is the best policy. I think the people who read me consistently can accuse me of being a bleeding-heart liberal, and that’s a fair point.
     

    Also OT - it seems the late Patricia Highsmith was as unpleasant and messed up as her books - I found them well-written and readable, but pretty evil. Tom Ripley seems to have been what she would like to have been.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9129857/Diaries-Talented-Mr-Ripley-author-Patricia-Highsmith-reveal-based-murderers-herself.html

    Replies: @International Jew

    hesitancy was particularly high among people from black groups

    Must be ancestral memories of the infamous Tuskegeeshire experiment.

    • LOL: YetAnotherAnon
  42. @Peter Akuleyev
    @Polistra

    Seems like you and Hunter both missed the point. Starship Troopers is a film about Nazis, but satirical. Verhoeven was making the point that fascists are still with us. It is meant to be a very anti-American, anti-militarist film.

    Replies: @Bies Podkrakowski, @Polemos, @Jenner Ickham Errican, @Unzerker, @James O'Meara

    From what I’ve heard Verhoeven career suffered from this abomination. If so, there is some justice out there.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Bies Podkrakowski

    Verhoeven is still pretty good in his old age. His 2006 WWII film "Black Book" was voted by his Dutch countrymen as the greatest movie ever made in the Netherlands.

    Replies: @theMann, @Ganderson

  43. Even in John Milius’s Red Dawn, there is a bad communist, Colonel Strelnikov, played by William Smith, who is white, and a merciful, idealistic communist, Colonel Ernesto Bella, played by Ron O’Neal, who is black.

    • Replies: @IHTG
    @Harry Baldwin

    The Ernesto Bella character wasn't meant to be black, though.

  44. Washington Post movie critic Ann Hornaday =
    … in White Christian Man a Cad, Nonstop. Groovy!

    • Replies: @the one they call Desanex
    @the one they call Desanex

    https://i.postimg.cc/GmNgMJYp/hornaday.gif

    Replies: @Polistra

  45. Hey she could always switch to television and watch Law and Order!

    “One of my readers recently pointed out that with non-Hispanic whites accounting for only about ten percent of the violent crime in New York City, the three Law & Order television shows were likely to feature more fictional white New York murderers in 2005 than there will be actual white murderers in real life!”

    https://vdare.com/articles/blond-bad-guys-hollywood-s-other-obsession

    And when it comes to commies in film don’t forget Rocky 4, Clint Eastwood dressing up as a Red in Firefox or The Governator in Red Heat (with an Austrian accent!)

    Hollywood still keeps those colluding and possibly White privileged Russkies around now-a-days in Jack Ryan: Shadow Recruit and Eastern Promises.

    • Replies: @Hibernian
    @jschmid4

    The first four seasons of Law and Order, although not showing a lot of minority defendants, were conservative in theme. I mean, they were pro Law and Order.

    , @Peter D. Bredon
    @jschmid4

    Fun fact (perhaps): I'm told that in the German dubbed version, the bad guys in Die Hard with a Vengeance are changed from Germans to Russians. (As it is, the bad guy is an East German, hence commie, so they already found a way to fudge it).

    , @Red Pill Angel
    @jschmid4

    It's not just tv shows; the ads are full of blond bad guys, not to mention stupid blond guys, and don't forget all tv burglars everywhere. Some alarm company even has a ridiculous blond-mustached, gay burglar spokesman. Hollywood movies have been obsessed with blond, blue-eyed bad guys for decades: Die Hard for one has those mysterious, Germanic terrorists, or whatever they were supposed to be, plus every geek high-school movie has a cadre of Nazi Youth popular guys. They're not just white, they're almost always marked by a very light blond-haired leader or super-baddy, so you can't miss the point: White man=Nazi=Very Bad.

  46. @Peter Akuleyev
    @Polistra

    Seems like you and Hunter both missed the point. Starship Troopers is a film about Nazis, but satirical. Verhoeven was making the point that fascists are still with us. It is meant to be a very anti-American, anti-militarist film.

    Replies: @Bies Podkrakowski, @Polemos, @Jenner Ickham Errican, @Unzerker, @James O'Meara

    I didn’t read Polistra as missing the point but instead making a point using subtlety and sarcasm. Polistra was making the point that eggheads are still with us and still . . . missing points.

    • Replies: @Polistra
    @Polemos

    Thanks; at least one person got it. Pearls before Swine is the phrase I believe. If you pitch it too low, everyone will 'get it' but you'll have accomplished nothing. Pitch it too high and they'll quickly be in confederacy...

  47. @Bies Podkrakowski
    @Peter Akuleyev

    From what I've heard Verhoeven career suffered from this abomination. If so, there is some justice out there.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    Verhoeven is still pretty good in his old age. His 2006 WWII film “Black Book” was voted by his Dutch countrymen as the greatest movie ever made in the Netherlands.

    • Replies: @theMann
    @Steve Sailer

    Actually that film is way overrated and rather depressing, but Carice van Houten is certainly watchable.

    In general, Verhoeven is a prism through people seem to see what they want. In general, I find his USA films loud, obnoxious, and unpleasant, and his Dutch films at least thoughtful. I can't think of any of his films that I especially like, but Starship Troopers comes closest, just because the characters are brave, tough, and determined, which is a real change from Hollywood's obsessive concern with the weak and perverted.

    Replies: @Bardon Kaldian

    , @Ganderson
    @Steve Sailer

    Soldier of Orange was quite good as well.

  48. You want a White Male villain, I will get you a White Male villain.

    Oh wait, maybe not what they had in mind…….

  49. @Bardon Kaldian
    The article Steve comments on is dumb.

    Simply- there is no "pure evil". Nazis, Communists, ....were not "pure evil", but people motivated by complex web of social, economic, psychological, political, ideological,... forces.

    This horny Ann writes from a mentality of an infantile adolescent. WP is .... what? A serious paper?

    Or some kind of pulp?

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Forbes

    The previous Washington Post film critic was Stephen Hunter, the only movie reviewer to win a Pulitzer Prize since Roger Ebert in the 1970s.

  50. @Peter Akuleyev
    @Polistra

    Seems like you and Hunter both missed the point. Starship Troopers is a film about Nazis, but satirical. Verhoeven was making the point that fascists are still with us. It is meant to be a very anti-American, anti-militarist film.

    Replies: @Bies Podkrakowski, @Polemos, @Jenner Ickham Errican, @Unzerker, @James O'Meara

    Starship Troopers is a film about Nazis, but satirical.

    Yes. Showing Nazis as good-looking, technologically advanced killers of horrible aliens, who do so while maintaining a humorous gung-ho esprit de corps, is a satire on Nazism.

    Steve Sailer – December 13, 2018 at 7:28 am GMT

    Verhoeven grew up on old Nazi movies and they have a lot of influence on him, which he plays off as satire.

    https://www.unz.com/isteve/barack-obama-as-an-example/#comment-2694419

    • Replies: @Aeronerauk
    @Jenner Ickham Errican

    "Yes. Showing Nazis as good-looking, technologically advanced killers of horrible aliens, who do so while maintaining a humorous gung-ho esprit de corps, is a satire on Nazism."

    Yes. Try reading a review of it by someone who understands satire.

    And at the risk of sounding pro nazi, "good looking" and "technologically advanced" sounds about right.

    , @Peter Akuleyev
    @Jenner Ickham Errican

    Showing Nazis as good-looking, technologically advanced killers of horrible aliens,

    That is the reading of the film that made it popular. That is also, of course, exactly how the Nazis viewed themselves and wanted other people to see them (aliens=Jews/Bolsheviks) which is Verhoeven’s point.

    If you watch it again you may notice the some odd disconnects- the bugs may not actually be the original aggressors in the war and seem fairly primitive, the good looking soldiers aren’t very bright and mostly get chewed up in meat grinder attacks because the commanders are apparently not very competent, Earth society appears built around war for war’s sake with no higher purpose (note that Christianity has apparently vanished other than the «Mormon extremists » who provoke the bugs with an unauthorized settlement), etc. But that’s why it’s a great film, it works on many levels.

    Replies: @vinteuil

  51. @the one they call Desanex
    Washington Post movie critic Ann Hornaday =
    ... in White Christian Man a Cad, Nonstop. Groovy!

    Replies: @the one they call Desanex

    • LOL: El Dato
    • Replies: @Polistra
    @the one they call Desanex

    Whoa, a Desanex app at last!

  52. @YetAnotherAnon
    OT

    https://www.bmj.com/content/372/bmj.n149

    Doctors in Norway have been told to conduct more thorough evaluations of very frail elderly patients in line to receive the Pfizer BioNTec vaccine against covid-19, following the deaths of 23 patients shortly after receiving the vaccine.

    “It may be a coincidence, but we aren’t sure,” Steinar Madsen, medical director of the Norwegian Medicines Agency (NOMA), told The BMJ. “There is no certain connection between these deaths and the vaccine.”

    The agency has investigated 13 of the deaths so far and concluded that common adverse reactions of mRNA vaccines, such as fever, nausea, and diarrhoea, may have contributed to fatal outcomes in some of the frail patients.

    “There is a possibility that these common adverse reactions, that are not dangerous in fitter, younger patients and are not unusual with vaccines, may aggravate underlying disease in the elderly,” Madsen said. “We are not alarmed or worried about this, because these are very rare occurrences and they occurred in very frail patients with very serious disease,” he emphasised. “We are now asking for doctors to continue with the vaccination, but to carry out extra evaluation of very sick people whose underlying condition might be aggravated by it.” This evaluation includes discussing the risks and benefits of vaccination with the patient and their families to decide whether or not vaccination is the best course.

    More than 20 000 doses of the vaccine have been administered over the past few weeks in Norway and around 400 deaths normally occur among care home residents every week.

    The Paul Ehrlich Institute in Germany is also investigating 10 deaths shortly after covid-19 vaccination.

    Asked if any deaths had occurred in UK patients after vaccination, the UK’s Medicines and Healthcare Products Regulatory Agency (MHRA) said that details of all suspected reactions reported in association with approved covid-19 vaccines would be published along with its assessment of the data on a regular basis in the future.

     

    I think the Brit response means "bloody hell! We were anticipating somewhat milder side-effects, oh dear, we'll have to tweak and roll out new reporting protocols which people who've done the first reporting will ignore". I might be being unfair.

    If deaths within 30 days of a positive Covid diagnosis are Covid deaths, are deaths within 30 days of vaccination counted as vaccination deaths? I imagine there will be a lot of pressure to answer 'no' to that one.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    The Adverse Events from the second dose of the Moderna vaccine in the clinical trial appeared to me to be pretty heavy. But I’m no expert. The Moderna vaccine is 3.3 times the volume of the Pfizer vaccine, which might be why the Operation Warp Speed experts are considering cutting the Moderna dosage in half.

    The Biden team announced today that they were going to be changing the name of Operation Warp Speed to something else.

    • Agree: Occasional lurker
    • Replies: @Jack D
    @Steve Sailer

    This is really bad because ant-vaxxers are going to interpret these reports as "Covid vaccine kills you". The reality is that it does appear to kill a few people but only the extremely frail elderly who really needed just one more little gentle push before they shuffled off this mortal coil. So if you don't fit that description you have nothing to worry about. Even for those folks, the Covid vaccine is going to kill a few of them but Covid itself is going to kill A LOT of them if they get it, so better to take your chances with the vaccine than with Ronachan. Probably the elderly should get Pfizer.

    A couple of people in my family have now had the vaccine and I'm not going to lie - they felt crappy the next day. Don't make any big plans for the day after you get the vaccine. But it's the kind of crappy you feel when you have a cold (without the respiratory symptoms) - it's not going to kill you. BTW, the centers are not very transparent about which vaccine you are getting - in most places you don't find out until you get there.

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon, @Lucius Somesuch

    , @Jonathan Mason
    @Steve Sailer


    The Moderna vaccine is 3.3 times the volume of the Pfizer vaccine, which might be why the Operation Warp Speed experts are considering cutting the Moderna dosage in half.
     
    The volume is irrelevant, because the vaccine consists of an active ingredient plus a diluent. Clearly there is some reason why the Moderna vaccine is less concentrated, or contains more diluent. If volume was reduced by half, then the dose of the active ingredient would also be reduced by half and presumably would be less effective.

    Certainly if the volume of the Pfizer is 0.3 cc , then an injection of 1 cc of Moderna in the arm would not be a large amount to shoot into one muscle (usually 2cc is the maximum given in one place).

    The volume of the Pfizer vaccine is unusually small and would have to be given with a tiny 1 cc TB syringe, or similar, with a tiny needle, which is similar to an insulin syringe, so as to measure out the tiny dose. With a larger needle accuracy would be diminished.

    A 1cc injection is also a pretty small amount, but could be drawn up using a standard 3cc syringe. Because the dose is exactly 1 cc it is pretty obvious that diluent has been added to bring the administration dose up to a standard amount that is easy to measure.

    There are some stories about extra doses in the Pfizer vials, but since it is almost impossible to withdraw every last drop from a vial, then with such a small dose, it is necessary to leave a bit extra to allow for wastage during the withdrawal process.

  53. @Bardon Kaldian
    Yawn ..... Non articles from non-people about non-people ....

    https://www.popmatters.com/182635-in-defense-of-ann-hornaday-no-matter-what-judd-apatow-and-seth-rogen-2495651394.html

    In Defense of Ann Hornaday, No Matter What Judd Apatow and Seth Rogen Say

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Richard B

    After all, think how many more times Ann Hornaday has made you laugh compared to Judd Apatow and Seth Rogen.

    • LOL: Bardon Kaldian
    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Steve Sailer

    Hornaday surely belongs on the short list for the iSteve Medal of Content

  54. @Steve Sailer
    @Bies Podkrakowski

    Verhoeven is still pretty good in his old age. His 2006 WWII film "Black Book" was voted by his Dutch countrymen as the greatest movie ever made in the Netherlands.

    Replies: @theMann, @Ganderson

    Actually that film is way overrated and rather depressing, but Carice van Houten is certainly watchable.

    In general, Verhoeven is a prism through people seem to see what they want. In general, I find his USA films loud, obnoxious, and unpleasant, and his Dutch films at least thoughtful. I can’t think of any of his films that I especially like, but Starship Troopers comes closest, just because the characters are brave, tough, and determined, which is a real change from Hollywood’s obsessive concern with the weak and perverted.

    • Replies: @Bardon Kaldian
    @theMann

    I've said it earlier .... why do these troopers have only automatic rifles (sort of) to use against those big bugs? Where are starship troopers’ Vickers & Maxims? Howitzers? Apaches? A-10s?

    The same with Jurassic franchise. Why, among all those Velociraptors & T-Rexes, no one carries serious weapons?

    Replies: @theMann, @James O'Meara

  55. “This film is dedicated to the brave Mujahideen fighters”

  56. @Peter Akuleyev
    The Communist Chinese are the good guys at the end of The Last Emperor;

    I didn’t read it that way, but maybe I was bringing my anti-Communist bias with me.

    Apocalypse Now, with its script by John Milius, is pro-Vietnam War, although Communism doesn’t seem to have too much to do with it;

    Fair enough. „Communism” as an ideology wasn’t really what was motivating Hanoi. It was a combination of nationalism and a group of second tier intellectuals trying to destroy what they saw as a corrupt elite that had colluded with French colonials.

    In reality communism, meaning a serious attempt to create a society along Marxist lines, probably died in the 1930s, as it failed miserably and had to be replaced by Stalinism. Every ruling Communist Party since has just been disguised neo Russian imperialism or Asian anti-colonialism. This is one reason former Communists like Putin found it so easy to move into the new era.

    Marxist Communism really only survives among well educated Westerners with no practical life experience.

    Replies: @fnn

    “Communism” was a subsidiary of Western banker progressivism from the beginning. Wilson vetoed the Brit plan to replace the Bolsheviks with he considered to be distasteful remnants of the Old Regime and Western capitalists built the Soviet industrial base in the 1920s and 1930s.

    • Agree: JMcG
  57. I nominate “China Gate” (1957). This is an astonishingly crazy movie starring Nat King Cole and Angie Dickinson. Americans were so naive about race in those days that Dickinson play mixed race woman (Chinese/white) who has a baby with a white man. The baby turns out to be fully Chinese!

    The politics , involving Vietnam, are equally crazy. Cole sings well.

    • Replies: @SunBakedSuburb
    @Foreign Expert

    "I nominate China Gate (1957)"

    Samuel Fuller is one of the few notable American directors, besides Houston and Hitchcock, who made interesting films during the 1950s. Pickup on South Street (1953) and House of Bamboo (1955) are both stellar.

    , @David In TN
    @Foreign Expert

    I have China Gate (1957) on Blu-Ray. It's a Guilty Pleasure.

  58. Every home security system commercial she ever saw has blonde burglars. They have to be the baddies.

    There have probably been more movies with the Klan or possible Klansman as the villains than the reds. The Klan lives under the bed of every leftwinger and comes out at night to steal the sheets.

    There seems to be a lack of movies about the terrors of the Communists. Maybe a dozen about the Gulags. Maybe one with the Commies of the Spanish Civil War shown in a bad light. But then as in McCarthy’s time most in Hollywood and New York media are Red Sympathisers. Marxism just has never been tried really.

    • Replies: @YetAnotherAnon
    @Skylark Thibedeau

    "Maybe one with the Commies of the Spanish Civil War shown in a bad light."

    Never seen or heard of such a thing - I thought the spell of Orwell and Hemingway was too strong.

    A recommended book for dispelling some of the romance is "The Spanish Pimpernel" by C.E. Lucas Phillips, out of print but available at places like Abebooks, the story of Christopher Lance, a military attache at the Madrid Embassy who smuggled (mostly) Nationalists out of Spain. The book describes how the moment Franco declared his revolt, the Nationalists in Madrid started arresting known conservatives and religious Catholics, who would be taken in lorryloads at night out to the countryside and shot dead.

    http://www.saxonlodge.net/getperson.php?personID=I4480&tree=Tatham


    At the outbreak of the Spanish Civil War in 1936, Lance was also an attaché at the British Embassy in Madrid and witnessed the carnage first hand. Many Spanish sought refuge in foreign embassies and he saw how much the Spanish around him were suffering. Using his diplomacy, great affability and skill at dealing with Spanish officials and guards, he organised escape routes from Madrid to the ports of Valencia and Alicante and onward by sea to Marseilles or Morocco. One of his tricks was to smuggle people out of Madrid in an ambulance unit kindly donated by a Scottish philanthropist, and take them to Alicante, where he would get them on board ships disguised as members of the crew - quite a chancer! He helped, not only, stranded British citizens but also Nationalists and Republicans alike, all people in danger of their lives as they became caught up in the war.

    Lance, apparently, always wore a conspicuous check jacket, and was brilliant at cracking jokes with the anarchist and communist militiamen, and bribing them with cigarettes. His language was liberally sprinkled with words like 'topping', 'old girl' and 'Hell's bells'! Such was his love of danger and risk-taking, that he even got to meet General Franco as well as Dolores Ibarruri - 'La Pasionaria', the feared leader of the Spanish Communist Party.
     

    Replies: @JMcG

  59. The Man from Uncle was at least a little ahead of its time in glamorizing Soviet-American cooperation and was pro UN.

    • Replies: @Known Fact
    @Hibernian

    Interesting thing about UNCLE is that the bad guys -- THRUSH -- were also internationally diverse, with regional hqs around the globe battling each o ther to invent some killer ray gun or tsunami machine to hold the world hostage. It was highly technocratic, not a bunch of commies. (Trivia quiz: What did THRUSH stand for?)

    Mission Impossible on the other hand constantly battled totalitarian commie dictators through much of its first five seasons, usually working to overthrow some tyrant to bring some democratic, pro-western leader to power. But Russia was never mentioned specifically, it was always some small but vital Peoples Republik of Whatever. Neo-Nazis were another common villain, before the IM Force was reassigned to battle various mobsters and traitors here in the US.

    And don't forget 5-0 -- arch-villain Wo Fat was explicitly from Commie China, and Hawaii was often the linchpin of his plans to achieve global dominance for the ChiComs, up to and including nuclear war

  60. @Peter Akuleyev
    @Polistra

    Seems like you and Hunter both missed the point. Starship Troopers is a film about Nazis, but satirical. Verhoeven was making the point that fascists are still with us. It is meant to be a very anti-American, anti-militarist film.

    Replies: @Bies Podkrakowski, @Polemos, @Jenner Ickham Errican, @Unzerker, @James O'Meara

    It is meant to be a very anti-American, anti-militarist film.

    I remember Dutch journalists being amazed that Americans didn’t get this. Because it’s done in such a crude way. He’s literally comparing American militarism and over the top nationalism with Nazism.

    My fellow Dutchmen are usually not subtle at all. Very on the nose. And Verhoeven is, even for us, very crude in the way he presents things.

  61. @jschmid4
    Hey she could always switch to television and watch Law and Order!

    "One of my readers recently pointed out that with non-Hispanic whites accounting for only about ten percent of the violent crime in New York City, the three Law & Order television shows were likely to feature more fictional white New York murderers in 2005 than there will be actual white murderers in real life!"

    https://vdare.com/articles/blond-bad-guys-hollywood-s-other-obsession

    And when it comes to commies in film don't forget Rocky 4, Clint Eastwood dressing up as a Red in Firefox or The Governator in Red Heat (with an Austrian accent!)

    Hollywood still keeps those colluding and possibly White privileged Russkies around now-a-days in Jack Ryan: Shadow Recruit and Eastern Promises.

    Replies: @Hibernian, @Peter D. Bredon, @Red Pill Angel

    The first four seasons of Law and Order, although not showing a lot of minority defendants, were conservative in theme. I mean, they were pro Law and Order.

  62. @Harry Baldwin
    Even in John Milius's Red Dawn, there is a bad communist, Colonel Strelnikov, played by William Smith, who is white, and a merciful, idealistic communist, Colonel Ernesto Bella, played by Ron O'Neal, who is black.

    Replies: @IHTG

    The Ernesto Bella character wasn’t meant to be black, though.

  63. Well, WMCs are now forever associated with Trump, and can be presumed to be delusional and anti-democratic unless proven otherwise, so they have made themselves into movie villain types. Trumpism and its associated lies and sedition are the context to understand Hornadays article.

  64. Is there something preventing people on the right from making their own movies?

    • Replies: @jschmid4
    @John Pepple

    "Is there something preventing people on the right from making their own movies?"

    Jewish control of Hollywood.

    They won't even let right wing Jews like John Milius make films anymore for heavens sake!

    (And if one thinks Milius is too old bear in mind that Ridley Scott is still churning out flicks!)

    , @James Speaks
    @John Pepple

    Yes, a lack of (((financing, hordes of woke film industry workers, and a hostile environment))).

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    , @Mr. Anon
    @John Pepple


    Is there something preventing people on the right from making their own movies?
     
    Yes. Financing and distribution.

    Also finding actors. People who acted in the 2019 anti-abortion film Unplanned even said that they knew it would severely limit, if not kill, their acting career.

    https://www.imdb.com/title/tt9024106/

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

  65. @al gore rhythms
    You can polish the scuff marks from Nancy Pelosi's office desk, but the mental scars from the horrors of the attempted white supremacist terrorist fascist coup on American democracy are clearly going to take a lot longer to heal.

    My thoughts and prayers are with Ann Hornyday at this difficult time.

    Replies: @Hannah Katz

    Yes but they forgot to mention that the evil White Christian Males that are really evil are all straight. So really it should be straight White Christian males. Moslems are always the good guys, or just victims of colonialists or something

    • Replies: @James Speaks
    @Hannah Katz

    I guess you've never heard of the Holy Roman Catholic church nor their cadre of padres.

  66. Ice Station Zebra wasn’t very flattering to communists and considering Chuck Norris made a career of beating communists ( and their Islamic allies) senseless before he killed them there was a genre of pro American movies but not of the sort that were going to be nominated for any awards or be reviewed in the prestige press. They did make money however which is more than can be said of many critically acclaimed movies. It maybe that movies were not the dominant influence on Americans during the Cold War. It was TV and, because the number of channels was limited prior to cable, Americans all watched the same shows.

    Jack Webb’s long running TV series, Dragnet and Adam 12 probably had more influence on the average American than any movie because they saw episode after episode year after year and those episodes displayed repulsive hippies, menacing black militants and spineless liberals as the bad guys. Archie Bunker may have been a buffoon but America loved him not his useless liberal son in law.

  67. @Peter Akuleyev
    A different question - what was the last Hollywood movie with a major black villain and white people as the good guys? Live and Let Die?

    Replies: @Harry Baldwin, @El Dato, @Anonymous, @kimchilover, @Jokah Macpherson, @BenKenobi, @Jenner Ickham Errican

    I haven’t seen it, but I know in the comic book movie Aquaman the character Black Manta appears, who is black in both his comic book and film versions.

  68. @Steve Sailer
    @YetAnotherAnon

    The Adverse Events from the second dose of the Moderna vaccine in the clinical trial appeared to me to be pretty heavy. But I'm no expert. The Moderna vaccine is 3.3 times the volume of the Pfizer vaccine, which might be why the Operation Warp Speed experts are considering cutting the Moderna dosage in half.

    The Biden team announced today that they were going to be changing the name of Operation Warp Speed to something else.

    Replies: @Jack D, @Jonathan Mason

    This is really bad because ant-vaxxers are going to interpret these reports as “Covid vaccine kills you”. The reality is that it does appear to kill a few people but only the extremely frail elderly who really needed just one more little gentle push before they shuffled off this mortal coil. So if you don’t fit that description you have nothing to worry about. Even for those folks, the Covid vaccine is going to kill a few of them but Covid itself is going to kill A LOT of them if they get it, so better to take your chances with the vaccine than with Ronachan. Probably the elderly should get Pfizer.

    A couple of people in my family have now had the vaccine and I’m not going to lie – they felt crappy the next day. Don’t make any big plans for the day after you get the vaccine. But it’s the kind of crappy you feel when you have a cold (without the respiratory symptoms) – it’s not going to kill you. BTW, the centers are not very transparent about which vaccine you are getting – in most places you don’t find out until you get there.

    • Replies: @YetAnotherAnon
    @Jack D

    "This is really bad because anti-vaxxers are going to interpret these reports as “Covid vaccine kills you”."

    I'm almost surprised the BMJ published it (the Guardian, otherwise Covid Central, hasn't mentioned the story).

    But, as we are all agreed...

    https://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b360/gidneyncloyd/FaberCollege.gif

    , @Lucius Somesuch
    @Jack D


    The reality is that it does appear to kill a few people but only the extremely frail elderly who really needed just one more little gentle push before they shuffled off this mortal coil. So if you don’t fit that description you have nothing to worry about.
     
    Wait, what are you talking about again?

    [I]t’s the kind of crappy you feel when you have a cold (without the respiratory symptoms) – it’s not going to kill you.
     
    This is such low-hanging fruit I'm not gonna even . . .
  69. @Peter Akuleyev
    A different question - what was the last Hollywood movie with a major black villain and white people as the good guys? Live and Let Die?

    Replies: @Harry Baldwin, @El Dato, @Anonymous, @kimchilover, @Jokah Macpherson, @BenKenobi, @Jenner Ickham Errican

    Carl Franklin’s (a black American director far more gifted then Spike Lee) “One False Move.” It stars Bill Paxton and was written by Billy Bob Thorton and has a black psychopath as the villan. Worth checking out.

  70. Liberals like Hornaday live in a liberal bubble and they all share the liberal obsessions of the day and this week’s obsession is the “Capitol rioters”. (I use the word “liberal” loosely, to mean Leftist). So one week the obsession might be “Black Lives Matter” and another week it might be “White Men are Evil” (are you beginning to detect a pattern) but whatever it is, all Good People are on the same page and talking about the same thing. So the food critic will write about the influence of evil white chefs and the movie critic will write about how we don’t have enough evil whites in movies, and so on ad infinitum.

    And then next week they will move on to the next variation on the theme. Maybe next week it will be that you can’t trust white women, who are after all sleeping with the enemy. Then everyone will write about them and how bad they are. The dance critic will write about evil white women in dance and the fashion critic will write about evil white women in fashion. Even (especially) the sports reporters will get in on the act because they don’t want to feel like they are writing about trivial things when the fate of the nation hangs in the balance due to the evilness of {insert this week’s evilness here}.

    In the Soviet Union these kind of two minute hates were centrally directed by the Party the same as refrigerator production but it turns out that you don’t need that – you can have a market economy in hate the same as in refrigerator production and enough will be produced to fulfill the demand without any central authority having to set a quota or issuing instructions that this year’s hot color for refrigerators is avocado green. This stuff is just sort of in the air in the elite echo chambers so once a two minute hate gets going it’s like a viral hit song that gets played over and over until everyone gets sick of hearing it and then it’s on to the next hit. This stuff goes stale faster than a French baguette so you have to keep changing up the variations on the theme.

    • Replies: @OilcanFloyd
    @Jack D


    In the Soviet Union these kind of two minute hates were centrally directed by the Party the same as refrigerator production but it turns out that you don’t need that – you can have a market economy in hate the same as in refrigerator production and enough will be produced to fulfill the demand without any central authority having to set a quota or issuing instructions that this year’s hot color for refrigerators is avocado green
     
    .

    Is there a demand for anti-white hate? It seems like forced feeding, rather than a feast. The chefs just want a job and maybe a good rating.
  71. @Hibernian
    The Man from Uncle was at least a little ahead of its time in glamorizing Soviet-American cooperation and was pro UN.

    Replies: @Known Fact

    Interesting thing about UNCLE is that the bad guys — THRUSH — were also internationally diverse, with regional hqs around the globe battling each o ther to invent some killer ray gun or tsunami machine to hold the world hostage. It was highly technocratic, not a bunch of commies. (Trivia quiz: What did THRUSH stand for?)

    Mission Impossible on the other hand constantly battled totalitarian commie dictators through much of its first five seasons, usually working to overthrow some tyrant to bring some democratic, pro-western leader to power. But Russia was never mentioned specifically, it was always some small but vital Peoples Republik of Whatever. Neo-Nazis were another common villain, before the IM Force was reassigned to battle various mobsters and traitors here in the US.

    And don’t forget 5-0 — arch-villain Wo Fat was explicitly from Commie China, and Hawaii was often the linchpin of his plans to achieve global dominance for the ChiComs, up to and including nuclear war

  72. @Skylark Thibedeau
    Every home security system commercial she ever saw has blonde burglars. They have to be the baddies.

    There have probably been more movies with the Klan or possible Klansman as the villains than the reds. The Klan lives under the bed of every leftwinger and comes out at night to steal the sheets.

    There seems to be a lack of movies about the terrors of the Communists. Maybe a dozen about the Gulags. Maybe one with the Commies of the Spanish Civil War shown in a bad light. But then as in McCarthy's time most in Hollywood and New York media are Red Sympathisers. Marxism just has never been tried really.

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon

    “Maybe one with the Commies of the Spanish Civil War shown in a bad light.”

    Never seen or heard of such a thing – I thought the spell of Orwell and Hemingway was too strong.

    A recommended book for dispelling some of the romance is “The Spanish Pimpernel” by C.E. Lucas Phillips, out of print but available at places like Abebooks, the story of Christopher Lance, a military attache at the Madrid Embassy who smuggled (mostly) Nationalists out of Spain. The book describes how the moment Franco declared his revolt, the Nationalists in Madrid started arresting known conservatives and religious Catholics, who would be taken in lorryloads at night out to the countryside and shot dead.

    http://www.saxonlodge.net/getperson.php?personID=I4480&tree=Tatham

    At the outbreak of the Spanish Civil War in 1936, Lance was also an attaché at the British Embassy in Madrid and witnessed the carnage first hand. Many Spanish sought refuge in foreign embassies and he saw how much the Spanish around him were suffering. Using his diplomacy, great affability and skill at dealing with Spanish officials and guards, he organised escape routes from Madrid to the ports of Valencia and Alicante and onward by sea to Marseilles or Morocco. One of his tricks was to smuggle people out of Madrid in an ambulance unit kindly donated by a Scottish philanthropist, and take them to Alicante, where he would get them on board ships disguised as members of the crew – quite a chancer! He helped, not only, stranded British citizens but also Nationalists and Republicans alike, all people in danger of their lives as they became caught up in the war.

    Lance, apparently, always wore a conspicuous check jacket, and was brilliant at cracking jokes with the anarchist and communist militiamen, and bribing them with cigarettes. His language was liberally sprinkled with words like ‘topping’, ‘old girl’ and ‘Hell’s bells’! Such was his love of danger and risk-taking, that he even got to meet General Franco as well as Dolores Ibarruri – ‘La Pasionaria’, the feared leader of the Spanish Communist Party.

    • Replies: @JMcG
    @YetAnotherAnon

    I’ll look for that. I can also recommend Peter Kemp’s “Mine Were of Trouble.” He was a young Englishman who went off to fight for Franco’s side. Not a great book, but a very good one. A corrrective to all the gauzy claptrap about the leftists in the Spanish Civil War.

  73. How many episodes of Law and Order has she watched?


  74. Looks like Ms. Hornaday could do with a “horn” a day, if you know what I mean.

    • Replies: @Ancient Briton
    @Escher

    Looks like Dame Edna's plainer sister.

  75. @Jack D
    @Steve Sailer

    This is really bad because ant-vaxxers are going to interpret these reports as "Covid vaccine kills you". The reality is that it does appear to kill a few people but only the extremely frail elderly who really needed just one more little gentle push before they shuffled off this mortal coil. So if you don't fit that description you have nothing to worry about. Even for those folks, the Covid vaccine is going to kill a few of them but Covid itself is going to kill A LOT of them if they get it, so better to take your chances with the vaccine than with Ronachan. Probably the elderly should get Pfizer.

    A couple of people in my family have now had the vaccine and I'm not going to lie - they felt crappy the next day. Don't make any big plans for the day after you get the vaccine. But it's the kind of crappy you feel when you have a cold (without the respiratory symptoms) - it's not going to kill you. BTW, the centers are not very transparent about which vaccine you are getting - in most places you don't find out until you get there.

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon, @Lucius Somesuch

    “This is really bad because anti-vaxxers are going to interpret these reports as “Covid vaccine kills you”.”

    I’m almost surprised the BMJ published it (the Guardian, otherwise Covid Central, hasn’t mentioned the story).

    But, as we are all agreed…

  76. She’s Smith, class of 82 you say? Well, back then, the ‘dirty no-good commies’ were socialists the French and our academics loved to have over for talks. Dirty no-good commies? No problem for Jane Fonda, who I’m sure has given many speeches to colleges, maybe even to Smith. This twit-twat Hornaday would die in the first 24 hours of White men disappearing if you could flip the switch she and her ilk would sorely love to flip. That’s why I question the value of educating twit-twats because they’re so sorely lacking the intellect necessary (and it doesn’t take much) to see where all that supports them comes from. If they can’t see that, why go further?

    She’s out of college forty years but most of her official shots are of those that are obviously 30 years back. Vanity, vanity, women and their vanity about beauty that doesn’t matter (once it’s flown that is).

  77. OK. I love villains. They aren’t stupid like the heroes until the end. Nor do I think I am alone given how many get to return from the dead. Funny thing will be when blacks and women started whining about not getting the challenging villain roles.

  78. @Kanehaole
    Rocky and bullwinkle had boris and natasha as
    Russians villains, I guess commies. Natasha was sexy even when I was 5.

    Replies: @donut, @Known Fact, @flyingtiger

    But Fearless Leader — Boris and Natasha’s icy boss — had kind of a Nazi vibe.

    https://lesserknownhusbands.tumblr.com/image/185573709526

  79. Yes! I can see a genre of horror movies with titles like:

    Slaveowner! The Thomas Jefferson Story.
    101 Popes: The Return of the Pedophile Priest,
    The Devil Made Him Do It,
    The Evangelist of Evil,
    Preacher In Prison,
    Top Bum: The Jim Bakker Story,
    The Faustus Identity,
    The Rockwell Code,
    Sins Of The Senate,
    The Epstein Epigram,
    Missionary Impossible: They Went To Do Good, And They Did Very Well,
    The Weinstein Years: The Cunt Who Fucked Me,
    Don’t Mention The Election (comedy),
    Watercolors and Waterboards! Memoirs of George W. Bush,
    Weapons of Mess Distraction.

    • Replies: @Peter D. Bredon
    @Jonathan Mason

    The Epstein Epigram,

    Sheer genius!

  80. @Steve Sailer
    @YetAnotherAnon

    The Adverse Events from the second dose of the Moderna vaccine in the clinical trial appeared to me to be pretty heavy. But I'm no expert. The Moderna vaccine is 3.3 times the volume of the Pfizer vaccine, which might be why the Operation Warp Speed experts are considering cutting the Moderna dosage in half.

    The Biden team announced today that they were going to be changing the name of Operation Warp Speed to something else.

    Replies: @Jack D, @Jonathan Mason

    The Moderna vaccine is 3.3 times the volume of the Pfizer vaccine, which might be why the Operation Warp Speed experts are considering cutting the Moderna dosage in half.

    The volume is irrelevant, because the vaccine consists of an active ingredient plus a diluent. Clearly there is some reason why the Moderna vaccine is less concentrated, or contains more diluent. If volume was reduced by half, then the dose of the active ingredient would also be reduced by half and presumably would be less effective.

    Certainly if the volume of the Pfizer is 0.3 cc , then an injection of 1 cc of Moderna in the arm would not be a large amount to shoot into one muscle (usually 2cc is the maximum given in one place).

    The volume of the Pfizer vaccine is unusually small and would have to be given with a tiny 1 cc TB syringe, or similar, with a tiny needle, which is similar to an insulin syringe, so as to measure out the tiny dose. With a larger needle accuracy would be diminished.

    A 1cc injection is also a pretty small amount, but could be drawn up using a standard 3cc syringe. Because the dose is exactly 1 cc it is pretty obvious that diluent has been added to bring the administration dose up to a standard amount that is easy to measure.

    There are some stories about extra doses in the Pfizer vials, but since it is almost impossible to withdraw every last drop from a vial, then with such a small dose, it is necessary to leave a bit extra to allow for wastage during the withdrawal process.

  81. @Harry Baldwin
    @Peter Akuleyev

    There's a Steven Seagal, movie, Marked for Death (1990) in which Seagal is up against vicious Jamaican drug dealers. It struck me as quite risqué that all the bad guys Seagal was beating up and killing were black. I'd never seen anything like that before. Even in Death Wish (1974), which was controversial at the time, Bronson killed an unrealistically multiracial assortment of muggers. The fact that some were black was enough to upset liberal critics.

    Replies: @Aeronerauk, @Joe Stalin, @David In TN, @Peter Akuleyev

    To Seagal’s credit the Jamaican gang and its leader are portrayed as cunning and in the process of replacing the white mafia’s hold on the drug trade. Their portrayal is pretty flattering if you ignore the criminal element… and also any time one of the Jamaicans decide to fight Seagal.

    Great memories of watching this and other early Seagal flicks with my father.

    • Replies: @anon
    @Aeronerauk

    . Their portrayal is pretty flattering if you ignore the criminal element…

    There's a couple of clever moments in the plot line. A key plot element is heard in the crummy audio of this vid clip, along with Jimmy Cliff's band.

    Some may find the visual pretty interesting also.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xtugxqRmJRE

    , @Harry Baldwin
    @Aeronerauk

    Before Seagal turned into a fat joke he was quite a plausible action hero. The fight choreography in his early movies is great.

    Replies: @Mr. Anon, @Chris Mallory

  82. The plot of the new Tom Hanks movie News of the World sounds like it follows her idea pretty well. I have not watched it, but white Southerners who are presumably Christian are shown as illiterate violent, racist hicks. Set in 1870, the plot point that they would need a man traveling through the area to read a newspaper to them is laughable. Based on the plot summary, Hanks is the only good white in the entire movie.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/News_of_the_World_(film)

  83. On a related note, do a google search for “white couples” and “white inventors”. This manipulation of search results is downright insulting to the intelligence of normal people.

    • Replies: @ic1000
    @Escher

    > On a related note, do a google search for “white couples”...

    Wow! Starting at the top, Google serves me images of:
    * Demented "happy" white couple
    * My white wife birthed three black babies (says smiling white husband)
    * St. Louis Prosecutor Charges White Couple With
    * White couple arrested after pulling gun on Black family
    * Black-By-Injection? White Couple Who Used Tanning Injections Says
    * White couple charged with assault over threats to Black family
    * Mark and Patricia McCloskey: What really went on in St. Louis that
    * My white wife birthed three black babies (repeat)
    * Welcome! old white couple
    * White Couple Who 'Identify As Black' Claim Their

    What a bunch of self-loathing, violent wierdos. Hollywood should fight racism and promote diversity by casting white couples as the the stereotypical movie Bad Guys.

  84. @Jenner Ickham Errican
    @Peter Akuleyev


    Starship Troopers is a film about Nazis, but satirical.
     
    Yes. Showing Nazis as good-looking, technologically advanced killers of horrible aliens, who do so while maintaining a humorous gung-ho esprit de corps, is a satire on Nazism.

    Steve Sailer – December 13, 2018 at 7:28 am GMT

    Verhoeven grew up on old Nazi movies and they have a lot of influence on him, which he plays off as satire.
     
    https://www.unz.com/isteve/barack-obama-as-an-example/#comment-2694419

    Replies: @Aeronerauk, @Peter Akuleyev

    “Yes. Showing Nazis as good-looking, technologically advanced killers of horrible aliens, who do so while maintaining a humorous gung-ho esprit de corps, is a satire on Nazism.”

    Yes. Try reading a review of it by someone who understands satire.

    And at the risk of sounding pro nazi, “good looking” and “technologically advanced” sounds about right.

  85. @Auntie Analogue
    Off the top of my head, a few movies with Bad Commies:

    - The Manchurian Candidate - a Red Chinese/NoKo-brainwashed American Korean War POW veteran mole-assassin as the trigger to a Communist coup in the U.S., but the real villains are the U.S. Senator and his wife who would have been the power-grabbing beneficiaries of the coup. (Did not see the later remake starring D. Washington.)

    - The Rack - Paul Newman plays Korean War former POW who survived brutal captivity & torture, ends up convicted at court martial of collaboration during his captivity

    - The Hanoi Hilton - American POW's under brutal North Vietnamese isolation, deprivation, torture

    - The Spy Who Came In From The Cold - Claire Bloom plays a naïve British socialist/Communist who's shot dead by East German border guards while trying to escape over the Berlin Wall. But the British spy Alec Leamas played by Richard Burton is shown as a burnout fed up with both sides in the Cold War.

    - Time Limit - Richard Basehart plays former Korean War POW on trial for collaboration with the NoKo enemy

    - Big Jim McClain - John Wayne & James Arness play HUAC investigators working to put the kibosh on an American Communist Party (CPUSA) outfit in Hawaii.

    Replies: @Known Fact, @SunBakedSuburb, @cylindrical crown

    My Son John (1952) was a major motion picture at the time but is now considered the Reefer Madness of virulent anti-Communism. Something about an all-American young man who falls in with the wrong crowd and gets brainwashed into being a Russki spy

  86. @Peter Akuleyev
    A different question - what was the last Hollywood movie with a major black villain and white people as the good guys? Live and Let Die?

    Replies: @Harry Baldwin, @El Dato, @Anonymous, @kimchilover, @Jokah Macpherson, @BenKenobi, @Jenner Ickham Errican

    Does Star Wars count?

  87. A newspaper movie critic.

    Really.

  88. Is Thanos a white male Christian? He looks sort of bluish/pinkish to me but I don’t know how he identifies.

    • Replies: @Nothing
    @Jokah Macpherson

    Thanos was voiced and motion captured by a white man(Josh Brolin).

  89. My new year’s resolution is to be positive no matter how ridiculous the situation so…..

    1) job security for white actors.

    2)chicks dig bad boys. If all white men are seen as dangerous, white girls might find them more attractive.

  90. The thing is, villains are very often the best, most interesting roles.

    • Replies: @James O'Meara
    @Ghost of Bull Moose

    As Trevor Lynch points out, in The Present Age, any even remotely "conservative" or "right wing" sentiment can only be articulated by bad guys, the more crazy and evil the better (Nolan's Joker or Bane, that other Joker, Travis Bickle, etc.)

    This creates a problem, even if you don't realize you can decode the message, because, as you say, the bad guys are the more interesting.

    I predict that the Woke will have the same problem as Christians or Communists: in order to avoid "glamorizing evil," they will have to produce sappy, saccharine movies etc. where everyone is good. Back to the days of the Hayes Code, married couples in separate beds, no one being "pregnant", etc.

    Interestingly, Derek Hawthorne over at Counter-Currents has written on German cinema under the National Socialists. He claims to have seen quite a bit of it, and apart from obvious stuff like Jew Suss and The Eternal Jew, there was surprisingly little overt propagandizing. Imagine, works of cinematic genius turned out by White people with no Jewish interference! But of course, no one knows about them, since "Nazi films" are forbidden.

    Replies: @Ghost of Bull Moose, @Occasional lurker

    , @Forbes
    @Ghost of Bull Moose

    Of course. You have no idea what villains will do next--what outrageous technicolor behavior they'll next do or say. Comedy, drama, tragedy--the secret is the suspense, the unknowing. Normal, typical conduct is one-dimensional pro forma, and is what the villain plays off for contrast.

    The Pink Panther was supposed to be a vehicle for David Niven's jewel thief. Almost no one remembers Niven was in it. Sellers was no villain, but certainly, he has the most interesting role.

  91. @Kanehaole
    Rocky and bullwinkle had boris and natasha as
    Russians villains, I guess commies. Natasha was sexy even when I was 5.

    Replies: @donut, @Known Fact, @flyingtiger

    Boris and Natasha are not Russian villains. They along with Otto Skorzeny like Fearless Leader, are citizens of Spotsivania. That country’s export is meanness.

    • Replies: @njguy73
    @flyingtiger

    Boris and Natasha were from Pottsylvania.

    Hail to the black and the blue!
    Sneaky and crooked through and through!

  92. @Bardon Kaldian
    Yawn ..... Non articles from non-people about non-people ....

    https://www.popmatters.com/182635-in-defense-of-ann-hornaday-no-matter-what-judd-apatow-and-seth-rogen-2495651394.html

    In Defense of Ann Hornaday, No Matter What Judd Apatow and Seth Rogen Say

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Richard B

    Yawn ….. Non articles from non-people about non-people ….

    Yep. Absolutely. Every article chock-o-block full of hyperbole, cliches, self-pity masquerading as self-importance, unconscious violations of their own logic, and just plain bad writing. But, every once in a while, it’s fun to point it out. So….

    Hyperbole:

    Celebrated Washington Post film critic Ann Hornaday

    Newspeak for Media Hack.

    Cliches:

    ‘the true alpha male,’

    “For generations, mass entertainment has been overwhelmingly controlled by white men, whose escapist fantasies so often revolve around vigilantism and sexual wish-fulfillment

    Self-Pity Masquerading as Self-Importance:

    If anything, the Internet has made the world a cruel, cruel place to be for cultural critics.

    Unconscious Violations of Their Own Logic:

    “For generations, mass entertainment has been overwhelmingly controlled by white men, whose escapist fantasies so often revolve around vigilantism and sexual wish-fulfillment

    Why would anyone poweful enough to control a multi-billion dollar enterprise like Hollywood need to indulge in espapist fanatasies and wish-fulfillment? (c. Media Hack above). Oh, and by the way, Hollywood isn’t run by white men.

    And Just Plain Bad Writing:

    The common insatiable desire for interaction and connection that we all share has been afforded the tools to make such impulses not only more readily available, but also imperative. Imperative to submit to. Imperative to utilize.

    • Agree: Bardon Kaldian
    • Replies: @Harry Baldwin
    @Richard B

    Oh, and by the way, Hollywood isn’t run by white men.

    As an iSteve commenter once noted, the people who say "Hollywood is run by white men" don't say "Hitler killed six million whites."

    Replies: @Richard B

  93. I’ve said it before: the Commies were almost never the bad guys in James Bond movies, or any movie in the Cold War, because Hollywood is communist trash protecting their own.

    The only James Bond movie where it is even hinted that commies might be the bad guys was You Only Live Twice, where SPECTRE are the bad guys (again), but they strongly implied they’ve been hired by Red China for the job—although it’s never confirmed.

    • Replies: @FPD72
    @R.G. Camara


    the Commies were almost never the bad guys in James Bond movies, or any movie in the Cold War, because Hollywood is communist trash protecting their own.
     
    How about Goldfinger, in which the Chi-Coms conspire with Ari to detonate an atomic bomb in the gold vault at Ft. Knox? It’s a Communist device to which Bond is handcuffed before freeing himself and overcoming Oddjob and deactivating the Bomb with 007 seconds to spare.

    Replies: @Peter D. Bredon, @R.G. Camara

    , @Peter D. Bredon
    @R.G. Camara

    True, but in the case of the Bond films, the early books are Bond vs. SMERSH (Russians), but by the time they started filming, with Dr No, Fleming (or Kevin McClory, as would be litigated for decades) had developed the idea of SPECTRE. Movie-No corrects Bond's misapprehension that he is working for SMERSH and explains about SPECTRE; in FRWL, the Russians don't know that Klebb is now working for Blofeld. Goldfinger is an outlier, but using the Red Chinese is OK since everyone, US and Russia, hate the Chinese.

    SPECTRE makes it possible to have a revolving cast of supervillains, which is good if you plan on a franchise. And even the pro-Commies can hate SPECTRE, so it makes for bigger boxoffice.

    It's "tight".

  94. @Franz

    The Killing Fields is about the Communist genocide in Cambodia
     
    True BUT.

    Isn't that the one where the heroic reporter suggests Pol Pot's murderous regime was partly or mostly Dick Nixon and Henry Kissinger's fault?

    I mean the wonderful Sorbonne-educated Mr. Pot would have never come up with slaughtering the multitudes without the influence of bad white dudes.

    Replies: @Old Prude, @but an humble craftsman

    Kissinger paved the way for Pol Pot.

    Shame on him.

  95. IMO, Pablo Neruda would be better described as a Stalinist. That is, he much admired Stalin.

  96. They were winning Olympic medals, going to church, wearing fun Hawaiian shirts, servicing swimming pools, selling flowers, fighting fires, walking the beat, maybe even running for Congress.

    They look just like “normal people” because they are normal people, at least within the context of America’s long, unresolved history of racism, violence, vigilante individualism and religious zealotry.

    STOP! My skin is crawling from the pure evil – selling flowers! My God – how blatant can they be?? Unmelanated psalm-singing MONSTERS! Kill, BLM……kill!

    Who knew that the Age of Biden would be the literal descent of Orwell’s boot on the face of White America? Well – some of us feared it; apparently all of them prayed for it.

    I await the coming Bezos-funded “study” proving, beyond all doubt, that when one side demands half the country submit to re-education camps, while the other surreptitiously identifies the people planning their genocide by the use of typographical symbols like triple-parentheses, the punctuation-coders are the monsters requiring obliteration.

    The next time you involuntarily preface any political comment you make with a rote denunciation of the violence that took place in our nation’s capitol, please pause first. And recall the words of the great Solzhenitsyn in his Gulag Archipelago:

    How we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family? Or if, during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand?…

    The Organs would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin’s thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt!

    If…if…We didn’t love freedom enough. And even more – we had no awareness of the real situation…. We purely and simply deserved everything that happened afterward.

  97. @Whitehall
    I thought Red Sparrow was pretty tough on the Russian Communists although I don't remember it winning any awards,

    Replies: @Mr. Anon

    I thought Red Sparrow was pretty tough on the Russian Communists although I don’t remember it winning any awards,…………..

    They weren’t russian communists. That movie was set in contemporary, post-soviet russia. It wasn’t supposed to show that communists are bad, but that evil bad Russians are all evil, and bad,………and russian. That’s why all the russians in it are shown as being vile and sadistic and degenerate. I’m surprised that movie didn’t feature a cameo by Adam Schiff saying that those evil Russians “hacked our election”. Red Sparrow was an exercise in American neo-liberal anti-russian agitprop based on a novel by a former CIA spook.

    And – apart from all that – it just sucked as a movie too.

  98. @Not Only Wrathful
    @Polistra

    Starship Troops does have a purposefully Nazi aesthetic though, which is fair enough really. The Nazis didn't gain tens of millions of adherents because their ideology made sense or because they were nice guys, but they had to have something going for them, and it was obviously their sense of style.

    Of course the ideology doesn't own the aesthetic. The artwork at the Hoover Dam is similar. The early Soviet aesthetic is basically the same too. Even Ayn Rand claimed that heroic, romantic art deco may be the last gasp of beauty in the Western spirit.

    The article you link to may be overwrought and overheated, but you're an insensitive soul, in the bad way, if you can't see (and appreciate) the aesthetic expression of Starship Troopers for what it is.

    Replies: @James O'Meara

    Much to agree with, but first this false step:

    “The Nazis didn’t gain tens of millions of adherents because their ideology made sense or because they were nice guys, but they had to have something going for them, and it was obviously their sense of style.”

    Next you’ll be saying people voted for Trump because of his sense of humor. The Nazis gained millions of followers because they had great ideas. It’s a fair point that even when Hitler was appointed Chancellor the Nazis still had less than a majority (which doesn’t really matter in a parliamentary system, just like the Electoral College), but in office they proved themselves worthy of support. The economic recovery was not brought about by snappy uniforms and songs (although building national unity was a part of it), and most fair observers agreed in principle with the recovery of historic German lands.

    Even the eugenics stuff was just catching up with the American progressive states like Oregon etc.

    • Agree: Occasional lurker
    • Replies: @Not Only Wrathful
    @James O'Meara

    Nazi ideology was more than economic recovery + unsundering Germania.

    Schacht and von Schleicher, who deserve the credit for the policies of recovery, were not even Nazis.

    Mein Kampf reads like a politico-historical thesis written in the style of pseudo-intellectual Warhammer 40k fan fiction - fun but stoopid.

    The very idiosyncratic syncresis of beliefs that made up what was distinct about Nazi ideology was never popular.

    I do recognise that some of the more esoteric and spiritual stuff stolen from Tantric Buddhism and other sources is pretty profound, though hardly part of Nazi thought per se.

    Tragically, it, along with eugenics, the futurist aesthetic and (ultimately) Western civilization became collateral damage by tangential association with Nazi totalitarian excess.

    21st Century heroic European romanticism should have been a thing, but instead we get bland "whiteness" and all fun, expressiveness and spontaneity outsourced to "blackness."

    Even the dissident right, minus BAP et al, rigidly stick in that suffocating box.

    Hitler killed the heroic European spirit by taking on its mantle while being 180 degrees unworthy

    Replies: @James O'Meara

  99. @Peter Akuleyev
    @Polistra

    Seems like you and Hunter both missed the point. Starship Troopers is a film about Nazis, but satirical. Verhoeven was making the point that fascists are still with us. It is meant to be a very anti-American, anti-militarist film.

    Replies: @Bies Podkrakowski, @Polemos, @Jenner Ickham Errican, @Unzerker, @James O'Meara

    Speaking of being still with us, anyone else re-watch ST recently, see SS Col. Dougie Howser, and realize, Hey, that’s our Jason Jorjani!

  100. @Richard B
    You can tell Ann Hornaday is bad just by reading her.

    She also looks exactly like I thought she would.

    The ancient Greeks were right, Ugly face, Ugly soul.

    Replies: @James O'Meara

    She thinks the glasses make her look like Tina Fey. She’s wrong.

    • LOL: Richard B
  101. @Polistra
    @Steve Sailer

    Well, they both have William Holden in them. David Lean's is the superior film but I like them both.

    Replies: @Larry, San Francisco

    William Holden was a great actor. Kind of forgotten now but I forced my children to watch 5 of his best movies.
    1. Bridge over the River Kwai
    2. Bridges Toko Ri
    3. Sunset Boulevard
    4. Stalag 17
    5. The Wild Bunch

    They loved them.

    As for anti Commie movies has anyone mentioned Red Dawn it was stupid buy enjoyable

    • Replies: @James O'Meara
    @Larry, San Francisco

    Not Network?

  102. From here, on the other side of the pond, it seems that an English accent is de-rigueur for white male villains.

  103. But we know what they’ve looked like for the past several centuries: White. Male. Christian.

    Just in case anyone thinks Jeffrey Epstein is fair game for an unflattering biopic.

    • Replies: @Bardon Kaldian
    @Rob McX

    Hmmmm....

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=05HK-z6HoHM

  104. @jschmid4
    Hey she could always switch to television and watch Law and Order!

    "One of my readers recently pointed out that with non-Hispanic whites accounting for only about ten percent of the violent crime in New York City, the three Law & Order television shows were likely to feature more fictional white New York murderers in 2005 than there will be actual white murderers in real life!"

    https://vdare.com/articles/blond-bad-guys-hollywood-s-other-obsession

    And when it comes to commies in film don't forget Rocky 4, Clint Eastwood dressing up as a Red in Firefox or The Governator in Red Heat (with an Austrian accent!)

    Hollywood still keeps those colluding and possibly White privileged Russkies around now-a-days in Jack Ryan: Shadow Recruit and Eastern Promises.

    Replies: @Hibernian, @Peter D. Bredon, @Red Pill Angel

    Fun fact (perhaps): I’m told that in the German dubbed version, the bad guys in Die Hard with a Vengeance are changed from Germans to Russians. (As it is, the bad guy is an East German, hence commie, so they already found a way to fudge it).

  105. @Jonathan Mason
    Yes! I can see a genre of horror movies with titles like:

    Slaveowner! The Thomas Jefferson Story.
    101 Popes: The Return of the Pedophile Priest,
    The Devil Made Him Do It,
    The Evangelist of Evil,
    Preacher In Prison,
    Top Bum: The Jim Bakker Story,
    The Faustus Identity,
    The Rockwell Code,
    Sins Of The Senate,
    The Epstein Epigram,
    Missionary Impossible: They Went To Do Good, And They Did Very Well,
    The Weinstein Years: The Cunt Who Fucked Me,
    Don't Mention The Election (comedy),
    Watercolors and Waterboards! Memoirs of George W. Bush,
    Weapons of Mess Distraction.

    Replies: @Peter D. Bredon

    The Epstein Epigram,

    Sheer genius!

  106. Starting in the 90s, Hollywood added a new villain to its repertoire: russian gangsters. Of course, a lot of the actual russian gangsters were a particular kind of russian.

    Hollywood’s preferred type for villains seems to be:

    Germans

    Russians

    Arabs (or Persians)

    WASPs

    Gosh, I wonder why that is?

  107. @Harry Baldwin
    @Peter Akuleyev

    There's a Steven Seagal, movie, Marked for Death (1990) in which Seagal is up against vicious Jamaican drug dealers. It struck me as quite risqué that all the bad guys Seagal was beating up and killing were black. I'd never seen anything like that before. Even in Death Wish (1974), which was controversial at the time, Bronson killed an unrealistically multiracial assortment of muggers. The fact that some were black was enough to upset liberal critics.

    Replies: @Aeronerauk, @Joe Stalin, @David In TN, @Peter Akuleyev

    In the DVD commentary for the 1985 Commando Rae Dawn Chong talks of the small Mexicans being destroyed by Arnold where that scene was shot.

    [53:20]

    She talks here of being cast in that movie.

    Not a whiner at this point in her career.

    • Replies: @anon
    @Joe Stalin

    Rae Chong played Ika in Quest for Fire circa 1981, her costume consisting largely of paint. Parts of the flick were filmed in an African desert. So, not a whiner.

    Seems to have difficulty retaining a husband, though.

  108. @Ghost of Bull Moose
    The thing is, villains are very often the best, most interesting roles.

    Replies: @James O'Meara, @Forbes

    As Trevor Lynch points out, in The Present Age, any even remotely “conservative” or “right wing” sentiment can only be articulated by bad guys, the more crazy and evil the better (Nolan’s Joker or Bane, that other Joker, Travis Bickle, etc.)

    This creates a problem, even if you don’t realize you can decode the message, because, as you say, the bad guys are the more interesting.

    I predict that the Woke will have the same problem as Christians or Communists: in order to avoid “glamorizing evil,” they will have to produce sappy, saccharine movies etc. where everyone is good. Back to the days of the Hayes Code, married couples in separate beds, no one being “pregnant”, etc.

    Interestingly, Derek Hawthorne over at Counter-Currents has written on German cinema under the National Socialists. He claims to have seen quite a bit of it, and apart from obvious stuff like Jew Suss and The Eternal Jew, there was surprisingly little overt propagandizing. Imagine, works of cinematic genius turned out by White people with no Jewish interference! But of course, no one knows about them, since “Nazi films” are forbidden.

    • Replies: @Ghost of Bull Moose
    @James O'Meara


    any even remotely “conservative” or “right wing” sentiment can only be articulated by bad guys, the more crazy and evil the better
     
    It's true. Even an apparently content, prosperous suburban family has to have a sinister undercurrent in modern film. But as Steve has pointed out, films like 'Black Panther' and other blockbuster pictures have some right wing sentiments that make it through due to the complexion of the messenger.

    The thing about the Hayes code is that it made the film makers more creative in what they had to suggest or imply, and the censors weren't entirely unreasonable in what they allowed. Those movies had fantastic villains, and they weren't making skin suits or human centipedes. Westerns have bad guys with real charisma.

    Separate beds was silly of course, but there's a reason the left is obsessed with 'representation.' It has an effect. Is there a connection between what pictures portrayed in those days and a safer, less indulgent and nihilistic social atmosphere generally? I don't know. Personally I can do without filmmakers like Todd Solondz, who if you watch his films you start to believe your neighbors are all pedophiles or lonely pathetic spinsters. Maybe his are, he lives off 14th street.

    I'm not opposed to 'propaganda,' I guess. Anything that promotes family, community loyalty, pride in our country, hard work, kindness, generosity, freedom, not killing babies, not being a disgusting pervert, moderation, mowing your lawn, shoveling your elderly neighbor's footpath, putting your grocery cart back...give me all that propaganda. The creative possibilities are endless.

    Nazi movies I don't know. Probably isn't a scene where they realize they're the baddies.
    , @Occasional lurker
    @James O'Meara

    Most films under NS/Goebbels leadership were pure entertainment, meant to keep up people's spirits during the war and reduce discontent with the regime, which was rife after Stalingrad. They were called Durchhaltefilme. Most Germans had not wanted the war to begin with, but were placated by the early successes. That no longer worked when the luck turned and the war came home with bomb raids.

  109. @jschmid4
    Hey she could always switch to television and watch Law and Order!

    "One of my readers recently pointed out that with non-Hispanic whites accounting for only about ten percent of the violent crime in New York City, the three Law & Order television shows were likely to feature more fictional white New York murderers in 2005 than there will be actual white murderers in real life!"

    https://vdare.com/articles/blond-bad-guys-hollywood-s-other-obsession

    And when it comes to commies in film don't forget Rocky 4, Clint Eastwood dressing up as a Red in Firefox or The Governator in Red Heat (with an Austrian accent!)

    Hollywood still keeps those colluding and possibly White privileged Russkies around now-a-days in Jack Ryan: Shadow Recruit and Eastern Promises.

    Replies: @Hibernian, @Peter D. Bredon, @Red Pill Angel

    It’s not just tv shows; the ads are full of blond bad guys, not to mention stupid blond guys, and don’t forget all tv burglars everywhere. Some alarm company even has a ridiculous blond-mustached, gay burglar spokesman. Hollywood movies have been obsessed with blond, blue-eyed bad guys for decades: Die Hard for one has those mysterious, Germanic terrorists, or whatever they were supposed to be, plus every geek high-school movie has a cadre of Nazi Youth popular guys. They’re not just white, they’re almost always marked by a very light blond-haired leader or super-baddy, so you can’t miss the point: White man=Nazi=Very Bad.

  110. @Jack D
    @Steve Sailer

    This is really bad because ant-vaxxers are going to interpret these reports as "Covid vaccine kills you". The reality is that it does appear to kill a few people but only the extremely frail elderly who really needed just one more little gentle push before they shuffled off this mortal coil. So if you don't fit that description you have nothing to worry about. Even for those folks, the Covid vaccine is going to kill a few of them but Covid itself is going to kill A LOT of them if they get it, so better to take your chances with the vaccine than with Ronachan. Probably the elderly should get Pfizer.

    A couple of people in my family have now had the vaccine and I'm not going to lie - they felt crappy the next day. Don't make any big plans for the day after you get the vaccine. But it's the kind of crappy you feel when you have a cold (without the respiratory symptoms) - it's not going to kill you. BTW, the centers are not very transparent about which vaccine you are getting - in most places you don't find out until you get there.

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon, @Lucius Somesuch

    The reality is that it does appear to kill a few people but only the extremely frail elderly who really needed just one more little gentle push before they shuffled off this mortal coil. So if you don’t fit that description you have nothing to worry about.

    Wait, what are you talking about again?

    [I]t’s the kind of crappy you feel when you have a cold (without the respiratory symptoms) – it’s not going to kill you.

    This is such low-hanging fruit I’m not gonna even . . .

    • LOL: Polemos
  111. Shabbos goy.

    I kid. I kid. I know there are plenty of Jews doing this critical work.

    Seriously, Hollyweird has pumped out incredibly effective minoritarian propaganda. But if it was truly 100% effective, people would run in horror whenever they saw a blond, vaguely Germanic looking man. Those dudes are the masters, the architects, of evil.

    To write this “I’ve got a brilliant idea: white man bad!” in 2021 is a level of either stupidity or ankle grabbing that i find hard to grasp. (But then i’m not a spinster.)

    ~~~

    I doubt Sailer has many young female readers. But just-in-case, i’ll offer some advice:

    If you are the Midwestern, bookish, “library girl” feeling unloved in high school … do *not* run off to a Seven Sisters college or now the Ivy League, or the East Coast. Your brain will simply be pumped full of more or whatever the current academic “wisdom” is. Since the rise of the Jews in the 60s, that’s been minoritarianism. (At least an order of magnitude more ridiculous–and much more deadly–than whatever kool-aid Louisa May Alcott was swilling.)

    No. Stay in the Midwest and study something reasonably practical. Just read from the Western cannon to stroke your literary button. Learn how to cook and to manage your finances. Watch your weight, stay fit and work to make yourself approachable, pleasant company for men. Try to get yourself into male or at least balanced environments and be focused on finding a good one–an intelligent guy who’ll both be able to provide and satisfy your desire of intelligent conversation.

    Then concentrate on your marriage and having a family. Then at Ann’s age, instead of shilling nonsense, you’ll actually be happy: enjoying your children graduating college, getting jobs, getting married, having children–ergo you becoming a grandmom! The good stuff. And you and your husband can contemplate and discuss the big issue: Florida or Arizona.

    • Replies: @Bardon Kaldian
    @AnotherDad

    You got all stuff here: https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/Tropes

    , @Too Long Didn't Read
    @AnotherDad

    I doubt Sailer has many young female readers

    I'm sure that there are some 45 year old women reading here.

    Replies: @MBlanc46

    , @Bardon Kaldian
    @AnotherDad


    Your brain will simply be pumped full of more or whatever the current academic “wisdom” is. Since the rise of the Jews in the 60s, that’s been minoritarianism. (At least an order of magnitude more ridiculous–and much more deadly–than whatever kool-aid Louisa May Alcott was swilling.)

    No. Stay in the Midwest and study something reasonably practical. Just read from the Western cannon to stroke your literary button.
     
    Here we go again: Jooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooz.

    Replies: @AnotherDad, @Mr. Anon

  112. @theMann
    @Steve Sailer

    Actually that film is way overrated and rather depressing, but Carice van Houten is certainly watchable.

    In general, Verhoeven is a prism through people seem to see what they want. In general, I find his USA films loud, obnoxious, and unpleasant, and his Dutch films at least thoughtful. I can't think of any of his films that I especially like, but Starship Troopers comes closest, just because the characters are brave, tough, and determined, which is a real change from Hollywood's obsessive concern with the weak and perverted.

    Replies: @Bardon Kaldian

    I’ve said it earlier …. why do these troopers have only automatic rifles (sort of) to use against those big bugs? Where are starship troopers’ Vickers & Maxims? Howitzers? Apaches? A-10s?

    The same with Jurassic franchise. Why, among all those Velociraptors & T-Rexes, no one carries serious weapons?

    • Replies: @theMann
    @Bardon Kaldian

    Not even a giant can of Raid!

    I didn't say the film wasn't stupid, I just like it a little more than most Hollywood films since the characters in it are brave, tough, mostly honest, and have a real code of ethics that they live and die by. It is better than most Hollywood crap, not much, but better.

    Replies: @Polemos

    , @James O'Meara
    @Bardon Kaldian

    Screenwriter convenience. Those "Pitch Meeting" videos on YouTube are devastatingly funny eviscerations of just about any big Hollywood movie. "Surprisingly easy, barely an inconvenience" is now my favorite tag line. They don't have one for ST but it would go like this.

    "Why do these troopers have only automatic rifles (sort of) to use against those big bugs? Where are starship troopers’ Vickers & Maxims? Howitzers? Apaches? A-10s?"

    "I don't know"

    "Alright then."

    The reason is that machine guns are "tight" to use Pitch Meeting lingo. Sexy. Screenwriters used to at least try. In that EuroBond rip off "OK Connery," the Big Bad (Thunderball's Adolfo Celi) has a machine that renders guns inoperative. How? Don't know, but at least it's a reason for Bond and the Good Guys to ride horses and shoot arrows in the Big Fight, because both are "tight" cinematically.

    Same reason the huge landing ships are grouped together next to each other, so that one or two meteorites hurled by the insects (using Bug Plasma shot from their asses) destroy the whole fleet: it makes Denise Richards a hero and it's "tight".

    In real life terms, sending someone across the universe with a machine gun is "tight" but security cam footage of fat America "soldiers" operating drones in a Wichita bunker isn't.

  113. It’s odd that a movie critic clearly hasn’t seen a single movie made in the last 70 years.

    Just as many people only had their media/internet access restored in on 6 January thus allowing themselves to believe that 2020 was an unrelenting paramilitary assault by the forces of law & order on the black bodies of BLM.

  114. @Jack D
    Liberals like Hornaday live in a liberal bubble and they all share the liberal obsessions of the day and this week's obsession is the "Capitol rioters". (I use the word "liberal" loosely, to mean Leftist). So one week the obsession might be "Black Lives Matter" and another week it might be "White Men are Evil" (are you beginning to detect a pattern) but whatever it is, all Good People are on the same page and talking about the same thing. So the food critic will write about the influence of evil white chefs and the movie critic will write about how we don't have enough evil whites in movies, and so on ad infinitum.

    And then next week they will move on to the next variation on the theme. Maybe next week it will be that you can't trust white women, who are after all sleeping with the enemy. Then everyone will write about them and how bad they are. The dance critic will write about evil white women in dance and the fashion critic will write about evil white women in fashion. Even (especially) the sports reporters will get in on the act because they don't want to feel like they are writing about trivial things when the fate of the nation hangs in the balance due to the evilness of {insert this week's evilness here}.

    In the Soviet Union these kind of two minute hates were centrally directed by the Party the same as refrigerator production but it turns out that you don't need that - you can have a market economy in hate the same as in refrigerator production and enough will be produced to fulfill the demand without any central authority having to set a quota or issuing instructions that this year's hot color for refrigerators is avocado green. This stuff is just sort of in the air in the elite echo chambers so once a two minute hate gets going it's like a viral hit song that gets played over and over until everyone gets sick of hearing it and then it's on to the next hit. This stuff goes stale faster than a French baguette so you have to keep changing up the variations on the theme.

    Replies: @OilcanFloyd

    In the Soviet Union these kind of two minute hates were centrally directed by the Party the same as refrigerator production but it turns out that you don’t need that – you can have a market economy in hate the same as in refrigerator production and enough will be produced to fulfill the demand without any central authority having to set a quota or issuing instructions that this year’s hot color for refrigerators is avocado green

    .

    Is there a demand for anti-white hate? It seems like forced feeding, rather than a feast. The chefs just want a job and maybe a good rating.

  115. It’s almost like it’s the media’s job to be clueless…

  116. “I suspect I have better pattern recognition skills”

    Maybe. But you’re not a big-picture guy like me.

    • Replies: @Gary in Gramercy
    @SunBakedSuburb

    You tell him, Spiny Norman!

  117. @Dumbo
    Film critics today are basically Comisara checking that the 'messages' are the right ones. I doubt Horny-a-day has any insight or even knowledge about film making.

    Down at the bottom of this post, I will try to count up how many Best Picture nominated movies over the last 93 years have had “no-good dirty Commies” as the villains.
     
    Talk about missing the point. I think there were more films with Russians as villains AFTER communism. They really hate post-soviet Russia.

    A more interesting idea would be to show how many "White male christian" villains are there in film and TV these days, as opposed to noble, good, heroic Blacks.

    Just from the top of my mind, I can think of several, and almost all Netflix series has at least one good Black guy and one bad White guy, but never or rarely the opposite.

    Replies: @Forbes, @Pierre de Craon

    The role-playing propaganda is huge. Hell, three-quarters of all new shows/series feature female leads, whereas in reality they represent no more than 10% of the jobs or positions portrayed.

    Can anyone name a recent movie or series where a strong male lead carried the show, without wild-ass personal compromise and conflict that effectively makes him psychologically broken??

  118. @Foreign Expert
    I nominate “China Gate” (1957). This is an astonishingly crazy movie starring Nat King Cole and Angie Dickinson. Americans were so naive about race in those days that Dickinson play mixed race woman (Chinese/white) who has a baby with a white man. The baby turns out to be fully Chinese!

    The politics , involving Vietnam, are equally crazy. Cole sings well.

    Replies: @SunBakedSuburb, @David In TN

    “I nominate China Gate (1957)”

    Samuel Fuller is one of the few notable American directors, besides Houston and Hitchcock, who made interesting films during the 1950s. Pickup on South Street (1953) and House of Bamboo (1955) are both stellar.

  119. @AnotherDad
    Shabbos goy.

    I kid. I kid. I know there are plenty of Jews doing this critical work.

    Seriously, Hollyweird has pumped out incredibly effective minoritarian propaganda. But if it was truly 100% effective, people would run in horror whenever they saw a blond, vaguely Germanic looking man. Those dudes are the masters, the architects, of evil.

    To write this "I've got a brilliant idea: white man bad!" in 2021 is a level of either stupidity or ankle grabbing that i find hard to grasp. (But then i'm not a spinster.)

    ~~~

    I doubt Sailer has many young female readers. But just-in-case, i'll offer some advice:

    If you are the Midwestern, bookish, "library girl" feeling unloved in high school ... do *not* run off to a Seven Sisters college or now the Ivy League, or the East Coast. Your brain will simply be pumped full of more or whatever the current academic "wisdom" is. Since the rise of the Jews in the 60s, that's been minoritarianism. (At least an order of magnitude more ridiculous--and much more deadly--than whatever kool-aid Louisa May Alcott was swilling.)

    No. Stay in the Midwest and study something reasonably practical. Just read from the Western cannon to stroke your literary button. Learn how to cook and to manage your finances. Watch your weight, stay fit and work to make yourself approachable, pleasant company for men. Try to get yourself into male or at least balanced environments and be focused on finding a good one--an intelligent guy who'll both be able to provide and satisfy your desire of intelligent conversation.

    Then concentrate on your marriage and having a family. Then at Ann's age, instead of shilling nonsense, you'll actually be happy: enjoying your children graduating college, getting jobs, getting married, having children--ergo you becoming a grandmom! The good stuff. And you and your husband can contemplate and discuss the big issue: Florida or Arizona.

    Replies: @Bardon Kaldian, @Too Long Didn't Read, @Bardon Kaldian

  120. @AnotherDad
    Shabbos goy.

    I kid. I kid. I know there are plenty of Jews doing this critical work.

    Seriously, Hollyweird has pumped out incredibly effective minoritarian propaganda. But if it was truly 100% effective, people would run in horror whenever they saw a blond, vaguely Germanic looking man. Those dudes are the masters, the architects, of evil.

    To write this "I've got a brilliant idea: white man bad!" in 2021 is a level of either stupidity or ankle grabbing that i find hard to grasp. (But then i'm not a spinster.)

    ~~~

    I doubt Sailer has many young female readers. But just-in-case, i'll offer some advice:

    If you are the Midwestern, bookish, "library girl" feeling unloved in high school ... do *not* run off to a Seven Sisters college or now the Ivy League, or the East Coast. Your brain will simply be pumped full of more or whatever the current academic "wisdom" is. Since the rise of the Jews in the 60s, that's been minoritarianism. (At least an order of magnitude more ridiculous--and much more deadly--than whatever kool-aid Louisa May Alcott was swilling.)

    No. Stay in the Midwest and study something reasonably practical. Just read from the Western cannon to stroke your literary button. Learn how to cook and to manage your finances. Watch your weight, stay fit and work to make yourself approachable, pleasant company for men. Try to get yourself into male or at least balanced environments and be focused on finding a good one--an intelligent guy who'll both be able to provide and satisfy your desire of intelligent conversation.

    Then concentrate on your marriage and having a family. Then at Ann's age, instead of shilling nonsense, you'll actually be happy: enjoying your children graduating college, getting jobs, getting married, having children--ergo you becoming a grandmom! The good stuff. And you and your husband can contemplate and discuss the big issue: Florida or Arizona.

    Replies: @Bardon Kaldian, @Too Long Didn't Read, @Bardon Kaldian

    I doubt Sailer has many young female readers

    I’m sure that there are some 45 year old women reading here.

    • Replies: @MBlanc46
    @Too Long Didn't Read

    And they are angry.

  121. @Altai
    Other than Muslim Arabs, White Christian males don't have much competition in villain stats in Hollywood.

    Wait...

    Replies: @Forbes

    That must be why Tom Clancy’s “The Sum of All Fears” movie was produced with neo-Nazi terrorists, rather than the Arab Muslim terrorists in the novel. Before 9/11.

    Because neo-Nazi terrorists were prominent throughout the late ’90s.

    • Replies: @HA
    @Forbes

    "Because neo-Nazi terrorists were prominent throughout the late ’90s."

    I have it on good authority that Sweden has more recently been over-run by neo-Nazis as well, or would have been, were it not for the plucky tattooed lesbian counter=insurgency standing in their way.

  122. @Bardon Kaldian
    The article Steve comments on is dumb.

    Simply- there is no "pure evil". Nazis, Communists, ....were not "pure evil", but people motivated by complex web of social, economic, psychological, political, ideological,... forces.

    This horny Ann writes from a mentality of an infantile adolescent. WP is .... what? A serious paper?

    Or some kind of pulp?

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Forbes

    The article Steve comments on is dumb.

    Then it qualifies under one of the iSteve content generator categories, especially as it’s from the WaPo.

  123. @Auntie Analogue
    Off the top of my head, a few movies with Bad Commies:

    - The Manchurian Candidate - a Red Chinese/NoKo-brainwashed American Korean War POW veteran mole-assassin as the trigger to a Communist coup in the U.S., but the real villains are the U.S. Senator and his wife who would have been the power-grabbing beneficiaries of the coup. (Did not see the later remake starring D. Washington.)

    - The Rack - Paul Newman plays Korean War former POW who survived brutal captivity & torture, ends up convicted at court martial of collaboration during his captivity

    - The Hanoi Hilton - American POW's under brutal North Vietnamese isolation, deprivation, torture

    - The Spy Who Came In From The Cold - Claire Bloom plays a naïve British socialist/Communist who's shot dead by East German border guards while trying to escape over the Berlin Wall. But the British spy Alec Leamas played by Richard Burton is shown as a burnout fed up with both sides in the Cold War.

    - Time Limit - Richard Basehart plays former Korean War POW on trial for collaboration with the NoKo enemy

    - Big Jim McClain - John Wayne & James Arness play HUAC investigators working to put the kibosh on an American Communist Party (CPUSA) outfit in Hawaii.

    Replies: @Known Fact, @SunBakedSuburb, @cylindrical crown

    “Bad Commies”

    The Stasi officer in The Spy Who Came In From The Cold turned out to be a former Nazi who was in league with Richard Burton’s MI6 bosses. Very realistic in terms of factions and alliances during the Cold War.

  124. @Rob McX

    But we know what they’ve looked like for the past several centuries: White. Male. Christian.
     
    Just in case anyone thinks Jeffrey Epstein is fair game for an unflattering biopic.

    Replies: @Bardon Kaldian

    Hmmmm….

  125. From the NYT, yet another example of the horrors of “structural racism”:

    Pixar’s ‘Soul’ Has a Black Hero. In Denmark, a White Actor Dubs the Voice.

  126. @Harry Baldwin
    @Peter Akuleyev

    There's a Steven Seagal, movie, Marked for Death (1990) in which Seagal is up against vicious Jamaican drug dealers. It struck me as quite risqué that all the bad guys Seagal was beating up and killing were black. I'd never seen anything like that before. Even in Death Wish (1974), which was controversial at the time, Bronson killed an unrealistically multiracial assortment of muggers. The fact that some were black was enough to upset liberal critics.

    Replies: @Aeronerauk, @Joe Stalin, @David In TN, @Peter Akuleyev

    I saw Seagal’s Marked for Death (1990) on a movie channel years ago. I think its the only “crime” story movie I can recall with black villains.

    Around 2007 a movie based on the 2006 book co-authored by former SFPD Chief Earl Sanders on the 1973-74 Zebra murders was announced. Jamie Foxx was supposed to star as a black detective solving the murder spree. Actually, Sanders and his partner did NOT solve the crimes. They were just two detectives among many others. Practically the whole SFPD was on it.

    There was a bit of an outcry that the premise of Sanders solving the case was false. The book he co-authored is mainly wailing about how he was discriminated against. The murders are almost secondary.

    As it happened the movie was not made. Most likely it was decided a movie with blacks brutally murdering whites wholesale was not a good idea.

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
    @David In TN


    Around 2007 a movie based on the 2006 book co-authored by former SFPD Chief Earl Sanders on the 1973-74 Zebra murders was announced. Jamie Foxx was supposed to star as a black detective solving the murder spree. Actually, Sanders and his partner did NOT solve the crimes. They were just two detectives among many others. Practically the whole SFPD was on it.

    There was a bit of an outcry that the premise of Sanders solving the case was false. The book he co-authored is mainly wailing about how he was discriminated against. The murders are almost secondary.

    As it happened the movie was not made. Most likely it was decided a movie with blacks brutally murdering whites wholesale was not a good idea.
     
    Didn't Jamie Foxx go on to make that movie anyway - the movie with blacks brutally killing whites. Except he was the killer and it was called Django Unchained
  127. White male Christian villains have been a staple since the 1990s. It plays well to blacks and White women who hate hate hate White beta males. Plays poorly with White guys and forcing that down gamers throats jump started Trump.

    They can keep on making these. They only convince White men they have implacable enemies who must be destroyed. Gays, blacks, White women. The latter kept barefoot and pregnant. The former stuffed deeply in closets. The middle deported to Wakanda.

    White men may not have power now. So go ahead antagonize them endlessly. Nothing can go wrong.

  128. @Foreign Expert
    I nominate “China Gate” (1957). This is an astonishingly crazy movie starring Nat King Cole and Angie Dickinson. Americans were so naive about race in those days that Dickinson play mixed race woman (Chinese/white) who has a baby with a white man. The baby turns out to be fully Chinese!

    The politics , involving Vietnam, are equally crazy. Cole sings well.

    Replies: @SunBakedSuburb, @David In TN

    I have China Gate (1957) on Blu-Ray. It’s a Guilty Pleasure.

  129. @AnotherDad
    Shabbos goy.

    I kid. I kid. I know there are plenty of Jews doing this critical work.

    Seriously, Hollyweird has pumped out incredibly effective minoritarian propaganda. But if it was truly 100% effective, people would run in horror whenever they saw a blond, vaguely Germanic looking man. Those dudes are the masters, the architects, of evil.

    To write this "I've got a brilliant idea: white man bad!" in 2021 is a level of either stupidity or ankle grabbing that i find hard to grasp. (But then i'm not a spinster.)

    ~~~

    I doubt Sailer has many young female readers. But just-in-case, i'll offer some advice:

    If you are the Midwestern, bookish, "library girl" feeling unloved in high school ... do *not* run off to a Seven Sisters college or now the Ivy League, or the East Coast. Your brain will simply be pumped full of more or whatever the current academic "wisdom" is. Since the rise of the Jews in the 60s, that's been minoritarianism. (At least an order of magnitude more ridiculous--and much more deadly--than whatever kool-aid Louisa May Alcott was swilling.)

    No. Stay in the Midwest and study something reasonably practical. Just read from the Western cannon to stroke your literary button. Learn how to cook and to manage your finances. Watch your weight, stay fit and work to make yourself approachable, pleasant company for men. Try to get yourself into male or at least balanced environments and be focused on finding a good one--an intelligent guy who'll both be able to provide and satisfy your desire of intelligent conversation.

    Then concentrate on your marriage and having a family. Then at Ann's age, instead of shilling nonsense, you'll actually be happy: enjoying your children graduating college, getting jobs, getting married, having children--ergo you becoming a grandmom! The good stuff. And you and your husband can contemplate and discuss the big issue: Florida or Arizona.

    Replies: @Bardon Kaldian, @Too Long Didn't Read, @Bardon Kaldian

    Your brain will simply be pumped full of more or whatever the current academic “wisdom” is. Since the rise of the Jews in the 60s, that’s been minoritarianism. (At least an order of magnitude more ridiculous–and much more deadly–than whatever kool-aid Louisa May Alcott was swilling.)

    No. Stay in the Midwest and study something reasonably practical. Just read from the Western cannon to stroke your literary button.

    Here we go again: Jooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooz.

    • Replies: @AnotherDad
    @Bardon Kaldian

    I know. I know.

    JackD's explained it to me: Jews punch way, way, way above their weight--Nobel Prizes! And my people would be living in sod huts on the prairie inflicted with polio but for Jews coming and making America great--except for political and cultural matters where Jews are a big nothingburger and are--as educated whites--just aping the appropriate ideology from the reigning WASP zeitgeist.

    I just keep forgetting ... and somehow think Jews have something to do with how white men are depicted by Hollywood. Silly--my goyishe kopf. Apologies.

    Replies: @Bardon Kaldian

    , @Mr. Anon
    @Bardon Kaldian

    Yeah, it's crazy to impute to one particular group that has an enormous presence and influence in Hollywood how Hollywood depicts people who are not of that group.

    That's just crazy-talk!

    Replies: @Bardon Kaldian

  130. “In general, Hollywood didn’t pay that much attention to the Cold War.”

    But doesn’t this relate to some extent to the Who? Whom? dilemma. On the other hand, Hollywood DID pay quite a bit attention to WW2 Fascism (e.g. Nazis). Perhaps because more than half Tinseltown’s screenwriters, producers, studio heads tended to be of a particular ethny that was directly affected by the Nazis. Also, perhaps not ironically, many of the Bolsheviks/Communists in general also tended to be of the same ethny as the studio heads and screenwriters. Perhaps it was felt that if they made a late 50’s/60’s film about a Soviet Spy named Leo Goldberg getting his comeuppance, US audiences might start asking questions a la “Hey, how come this bad commie has a certain sounding name? Are most of them really commies?” And they simply couldn’t allow ordinary folks to start noticing things along those lines.

  131. @Peter Akuleyev
    A different question - what was the last Hollywood movie with a major black villain and white people as the good guys? Live and Let Die?

    Replies: @Harry Baldwin, @El Dato, @Anonymous, @kimchilover, @Jokah Macpherson, @BenKenobi, @Jenner Ickham Errican

    Demolition Man

  132. @Mr. Anon
    Even just trying to name any anti-communist movie, let alone one that was nominated for an Oscar, can be challenging. Here are a few:

    The Bridges at Toko-Ri (1954)

    The Secret Ways (1961)

    Torn Curtain (1966)

    The Green Berets (1968)

    Topaz (1969)

    Coming Out of the Ice (1982, TV Movie)

    Stalin (1992, TV Movie)

    Chernobyl (2019, Teleplay)

    Replies: @Polistra, @David In TN, @JMcG

    The Secret Ways (1961) just came out on DVD and Blu-Ray. I’ve never seen it on a movie channel, TCM included.

    Richard Widmark stars as an American soldier of fortune (his characterization is similar to Widmark’s submarine commander in Hell and High Water) hired to rescue a Hungarian scientist wanted by the Russians to escape from Budapest. The problem is the scientist is a staunch freedom fighter who wants to stay and keep up the struggle.

    Phil Karlson was assigned to direct but Karlson wanted to make the story a spoof as he did a few years later with the Matt Helm movies. By the way, the Matt Helm novels are very good with evil communist villains.

    The Matt Helm series as written by Donald Hamilton made James Bond look like a cream puff. Karlson ruined the Matt Helm character.

    Richard Widmark, a liberal democrat BTW, wanted The Secret Ways to be a straight story and is supposed to have taken over the direction from Karlson.

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
    @David In TN

    And based on a novel by Alistair MacLean.

    Thanks for the info.

    , @Jim Don Bob
    @David In TN


    By the way, the Matt Helm novels are very good with evil communist villains. The Matt Helm series as written by Donald Hamilton made James Bond look like a cream puff.
     
    +1

    Karlson ruined the Matt Helm character.
     
    True. The movies were dreadful.

    Replies: @James O'Meara

  133. You can spot the bad guy the first time he opens his mouth – he is a white and has an English accent.

  134. @Harry Baldwin
    @Peter Akuleyev

    There's a Steven Seagal, movie, Marked for Death (1990) in which Seagal is up against vicious Jamaican drug dealers. It struck me as quite risqué that all the bad guys Seagal was beating up and killing were black. I'd never seen anything like that before. Even in Death Wish (1974), which was controversial at the time, Bronson killed an unrealistically multiracial assortment of muggers. The fact that some were black was enough to upset liberal critics.

    Replies: @Aeronerauk, @Joe Stalin, @David In TN, @Peter Akuleyev

    So both Live and Let Die and Marked for Death have black villains from the Caribbean, not American blacks . That sort of underlines the point.

  135. Let me repost my Hollywood-to-reality translator:

    I’ve developed a new rule – if you follow it, TV programs/movies make much more sense and are more realistic.

    1. See black characters onscreen (scientist or math genius sidekicks), imagine them as Asians.

    2. See white, esp. blond, blue-eyed male, characters onscreen (cartoon villains), imagine them as blacks.

    3. See Jewish characters onscreen (moral conscience, the good guy), imagine them as gentile whites.

    4. See Asian characters onscreen (gangsters, diabolical plotters), imagine them as Jews.

    5. See Hispanic characters onscreen (hapless, happy-go-lucky goofs), imagine them as Hispanics.

    • Thanks: ic1000
    • LOL: Johann Ricke
  136. I don’t know, but from a few American films I’ve seen in past 5-10 years … they all look the same to me. Some exceptions, yes, but ….

    From the 30’s to the 90’s you could still recognize the authorial paw of a director, specific film language etc. Not anymore. You have the entire short film here, 20 minutes long. Not bad, it got Oscar, but – stylistically unremarkable. No POC, no gays, no trannies, no …. but it is so- predictable? tvtropable? …Dunno, but I am impressed by its unimpressiveness.

  137. @Steve Sailer
    @Bardon Kaldian

    After all, think how many more times Ann Hornaday has made you laugh compared to Judd Apatow and Seth Rogen.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    Hornaday surely belongs on the short list for the iSteve Medal of Content

  138. In contrast, how many movies and TV shows appear to have a non-white villain, but in a shocking plot twist it really is an evil white guy behind it all?

    Pretty much every season of 24.

    All three Ironman movies. (Out of all 30 something MCU movies, there are 2, count em 2, villains played by black actors, and one of those was in an all black cast movie.)

    Even Red Dawn was more sympathetic to the Cuban Colonel who ordered the execution of captured civilians, over his Russian superior who ordered him to stop doing it. And it was those blue eyed Russians pulling the strings of the NVA POW camp soldiers in Rambo: First Blood Part 2.

    If I had more time I’m sure I could come up with more.

  139. @Escher
    On a related note, do a google search for “white couples” and “white inventors”. This manipulation of search results is downright insulting to the intelligence of normal people.

    Replies: @ic1000

    > On a related note, do a google search for “white couples”…

    Wow! Starting at the top, Google serves me images of:
    * Demented “happy” white couple
    * My white wife birthed three black babies (says smiling white husband)
    * St. Louis Prosecutor Charges White Couple With
    * White couple arrested after pulling gun on Black family
    * Black-By-Injection? White Couple Who Used Tanning Injections Says
    * White couple charged with assault over threats to Black family
    * Mark and Patricia McCloskey: What really went on in St. Louis that
    * My white wife birthed three black babies (repeat)
    * Welcome! old white couple
    * White Couple Who ‘Identify As Black’ Claim Their

    What a bunch of self-loathing, violent wierdos. Hollywood should fight racism and promote diversity by casting white couples as the the stereotypical movie Bad Guys.

  140. @Jenner Ickham Errican
    @Peter Akuleyev


    Starship Troopers is a film about Nazis, but satirical.
     
    Yes. Showing Nazis as good-looking, technologically advanced killers of horrible aliens, who do so while maintaining a humorous gung-ho esprit de corps, is a satire on Nazism.

    Steve Sailer – December 13, 2018 at 7:28 am GMT

    Verhoeven grew up on old Nazi movies and they have a lot of influence on him, which he plays off as satire.
     
    https://www.unz.com/isteve/barack-obama-as-an-example/#comment-2694419

    Replies: @Aeronerauk, @Peter Akuleyev

    Showing Nazis as good-looking, technologically advanced killers of horrible aliens,

    That is the reading of the film that made it popular. That is also, of course, exactly how the Nazis viewed themselves and wanted other people to see them (aliens=Jews/Bolsheviks) which is Verhoeven’s point.

    If you watch it again you may notice the some odd disconnects- the bugs may not actually be the original aggressors in the war and seem fairly primitive, the good looking soldiers aren’t very bright and mostly get chewed up in meat grinder attacks because the commanders are apparently not very competent, Earth society appears built around war for war’s sake with no higher purpose (note that Christianity has apparently vanished other than the «Mormon extremists » who provoke the bugs with an unauthorized settlement), etc. But that’s why it’s a great film, it works on many levels.

    • Replies: @vinteuil
    @Peter Akuleyev


    That is the reading of the film that made it popular.
     
    What are you talking about? The film wasn't "popular." It was a box-office dud.

    Replies: @Peter Akuleyev

  141. @James O'Meara
    @Not Only Wrathful

    Much to agree with, but first this false step:

    "The Nazis didn’t gain tens of millions of adherents because their ideology made sense or because they were nice guys, but they had to have something going for them, and it was obviously their sense of style."

    Next you'll be saying people voted for Trump because of his sense of humor. The Nazis gained millions of followers because they had great ideas. It's a fair point that even when Hitler was appointed Chancellor the Nazis still had less than a majority (which doesn't really matter in a parliamentary system, just like the Electoral College), but in office they proved themselves worthy of support. The economic recovery was not brought about by snappy uniforms and songs (although building national unity was a part of it), and most fair observers agreed in principle with the recovery of historic German lands.

    Even the eugenics stuff was just catching up with the American progressive states like Oregon etc.

    Replies: @Not Only Wrathful

    Nazi ideology was more than economic recovery + unsundering Germania.

    Schacht and von Schleicher, who deserve the credit for the policies of recovery, were not even Nazis.

    Mein Kampf reads like a politico-historical thesis written in the style of pseudo-intellectual Warhammer 40k fan fiction – fun but stoopid.

    The very idiosyncratic syncresis of beliefs that made up what was distinct about Nazi ideology was never popular.

    I do recognise that some of the more esoteric and spiritual stuff stolen from Tantric Buddhism and other sources is pretty profound, though hardly part of Nazi thought per se.

    Tragically, it, along with eugenics, the futurist aesthetic and (ultimately) Western civilization became collateral damage by tangential association with Nazi totalitarian excess.

    21st Century heroic European romanticism should have been a thing, but instead we get bland “whiteness” and all fun, expressiveness and spontaneity outsourced to “blackness.”

    Even the dissident right, minus BAP et al, rigidly stick in that suffocating box.

    Hitler killed the heroic European spirit by taking on its mantle while being 180 degrees unworthy

    • Replies: @James O'Meara
    @Not Only Wrathful

    "Hitler killed the heroic European spirit by taking on its mantle while being 180 degrees unworthy"

    Communism and NatSoc were both plebian movements, as Evola and Spengler, among others, recognized. This is congruent with Traditionalist doctrine, specifically the "Regression of the castes," where society is led by (both politically and in terms of "setting the tone") priests, then warriors, then merchants (Disraeli's 'nation of shopkeepers'), now proles.

    Evola thought the NS movement could be "directed" so as to emphasize the priestly/warrior elements (such as the SS) which were lacking in the entirely plebian Communist movement; real Nazis had no interest in this, as it turned out. (As for the Commies, the much maligned Frankfort School actually represented the aristo, elitist elements of German culture within Communism, hence their contempt for "pop culture" and other Americanisms). This was also his version of eugenics: rather than the NS "zoological racism" he promoted the idea of directing racial policy to promoting the higher, aristocratic features of culture and pruning the lower. (American conservatives would howl about spending "taxpayer money" on arts and other gay stuff, and demand, like good merchants, "let the market decide").

    Steve Bannon had similar ideas: in the modern world cycle, the only elements of Tradition are found in the proles. See https://counter-currents.com/2020/10/hook-line-and-sinker/

  142. In fairness, I think these guys were commies.

  143. Maybe these guys were commies.

  144. @Ghost of Bull Moose
    The thing is, villains are very often the best, most interesting roles.

    Replies: @James O'Meara, @Forbes

    Of course. You have no idea what villains will do next–what outrageous technicolor behavior they’ll next do or say. Comedy, drama, tragedy–the secret is the suspense, the unknowing. Normal, typical conduct is one-dimensional pro forma, and is what the villain plays off for contrast.

    The Pink Panther was supposed to be a vehicle for David Niven’s jewel thief. Almost no one remembers Niven was in it. Sellers was no villain, but certainly, he has the most interesting role.

  145. @flyingtiger
    @Kanehaole

    Boris and Natasha are not Russian villains. They along with Otto Skorzeny like Fearless Leader, are citizens of Spotsivania. That country's export is meanness.

    Replies: @njguy73

    Boris and Natasha were from Pottsylvania.

    Hail to the black and the blue!
    Sneaky and crooked through and through!

  146. @Dumbo
    Film critics today are basically Comisara checking that the 'messages' are the right ones. I doubt Horny-a-day has any insight or even knowledge about film making.

    Down at the bottom of this post, I will try to count up how many Best Picture nominated movies over the last 93 years have had “no-good dirty Commies” as the villains.
     
    Talk about missing the point. I think there were more films with Russians as villains AFTER communism. They really hate post-soviet Russia.

    A more interesting idea would be to show how many "White male christian" villains are there in film and TV these days, as opposed to noble, good, heroic Blacks.

    Just from the top of my mind, I can think of several, and almost all Netflix series has at least one good Black guy and one bad White guy, but never or rarely the opposite.

    Replies: @Forbes, @Pierre de Craon

    I think there were more films with Russians as villains AFTER communism. They [i.e., (((They)))] really hate post-Soviet Russia.

    This very fact was noted drily by Joseph Sobran back in the nineties: “It took the fall of communism to make Hollywood lose its respect for Russia.”

  147. @James O'Meara
    @Ghost of Bull Moose

    As Trevor Lynch points out, in The Present Age, any even remotely "conservative" or "right wing" sentiment can only be articulated by bad guys, the more crazy and evil the better (Nolan's Joker or Bane, that other Joker, Travis Bickle, etc.)

    This creates a problem, even if you don't realize you can decode the message, because, as you say, the bad guys are the more interesting.

    I predict that the Woke will have the same problem as Christians or Communists: in order to avoid "glamorizing evil," they will have to produce sappy, saccharine movies etc. where everyone is good. Back to the days of the Hayes Code, married couples in separate beds, no one being "pregnant", etc.

    Interestingly, Derek Hawthorne over at Counter-Currents has written on German cinema under the National Socialists. He claims to have seen quite a bit of it, and apart from obvious stuff like Jew Suss and The Eternal Jew, there was surprisingly little overt propagandizing. Imagine, works of cinematic genius turned out by White people with no Jewish interference! But of course, no one knows about them, since "Nazi films" are forbidden.

    Replies: @Ghost of Bull Moose, @Occasional lurker

    any even remotely “conservative” or “right wing” sentiment can only be articulated by bad guys, the more crazy and evil the better

    It’s true. Even an apparently content, prosperous suburban family has to have a sinister undercurrent in modern film. But as Steve has pointed out, films like ‘Black Panther’ and other blockbuster pictures have some right wing sentiments that make it through due to the complexion of the messenger.

    The thing about the Hayes code is that it made the film makers more creative in what they had to suggest or imply, and the censors weren’t entirely unreasonable in what they allowed. Those movies had fantastic villains, and they weren’t making skin suits or human centipedes. Westerns have bad guys with real charisma.

    Separate beds was silly of course, but there’s a reason the left is obsessed with ‘representation.’ It has an effect. Is there a connection between what pictures portrayed in those days and a safer, less indulgent and nihilistic social atmosphere generally? I don’t know. Personally I can do without filmmakers like Todd Solondz, who if you watch his films you start to believe your neighbors are all pedophiles or lonely pathetic spinsters. Maybe his are, he lives off 14th street.

    I’m not opposed to ‘propaganda,’ I guess. Anything that promotes family, community loyalty, pride in our country, hard work, kindness, generosity, freedom, not killing babies, not being a disgusting pervert, moderation, mowing your lawn, shoveling your elderly neighbor’s footpath, putting your grocery cart back…give me all that propaganda. The creative possibilities are endless.

    Nazi movies I don’t know. Probably isn’t a scene where they realize they’re the baddies.

  148. @Bardon Kaldian
    @theMann

    I've said it earlier .... why do these troopers have only automatic rifles (sort of) to use against those big bugs? Where are starship troopers’ Vickers & Maxims? Howitzers? Apaches? A-10s?

    The same with Jurassic franchise. Why, among all those Velociraptors & T-Rexes, no one carries serious weapons?

    Replies: @theMann, @James O'Meara

    Not even a giant can of Raid!

    I didn’t say the film wasn’t stupid, I just like it a little more than most Hollywood films since the characters in it are brave, tough, mostly honest, and have a real code of ethics that they live and die by. It is better than most Hollywood crap, not much, but better.

    • Replies: @Polemos
    @theMann

    But the ethics the Mobile Infantry demonstrates serves a totalitarian state that regiments and breeds its people within power hierarchies, making them into components for its own growth and domination of the planet and surrounding space. The insects and the humans are mirrors of one another: consuming superorganisms.

    Consider the point of view of the insects, and notice that bravery, courage, tenacity, or resilience before insurmountable odds are also on display. They do not tire, do not stop unless shifting their attack, obey orders from the higherups, and march to war continuously.

    The humans are the bugs. Both are totalitarian societies following the same internal logics. If it weren't obvious by the end of the movie, the sequels, especially the third make it clear.

    I don't think it's bad at all to value courage or bravery. I am very antithetical to totalitarian society precisely because it exploits these qualities in its best.

  149. @Redneck farmer
    The NYT PAID for this?

    Replies: @Mark Spahn (West Seneca, NY)

    “The NYT PAID for this?”

    Paid for what? A movie commentary in the Washington Post?

  150. @John Pepple
    Is there something preventing people on the right from making their own movies?

    Replies: @jschmid4, @James Speaks, @Mr. Anon

    “Is there something preventing people on the right from making their own movies?”

    Jewish control of Hollywood.

    They won’t even let right wing Jews like John Milius make films anymore for heavens sake!

    (And if one thinks Milius is too old bear in mind that Ridley Scott is still churning out flicks!)

  151. The only serious recent movie I can think of with a Jewish semi villain is “An Education”

  152. @Peter Akuleyev
    @Jenner Ickham Errican

    Showing Nazis as good-looking, technologically advanced killers of horrible aliens,

    That is the reading of the film that made it popular. That is also, of course, exactly how the Nazis viewed themselves and wanted other people to see them (aliens=Jews/Bolsheviks) which is Verhoeven’s point.

    If you watch it again you may notice the some odd disconnects- the bugs may not actually be the original aggressors in the war and seem fairly primitive, the good looking soldiers aren’t very bright and mostly get chewed up in meat grinder attacks because the commanders are apparently not very competent, Earth society appears built around war for war’s sake with no higher purpose (note that Christianity has apparently vanished other than the «Mormon extremists » who provoke the bugs with an unauthorized settlement), etc. But that’s why it’s a great film, it works on many levels.

    Replies: @vinteuil

    That is the reading of the film that made it popular.

    What are you talking about? The film wasn’t “popular.” It was a box-office dud.

    • Replies: @Peter Akuleyev
    @vinteuil

    Hardly a "dud". The film grossed 121 million worldwide, spawned several sequels, and has a solid cult following among SciFi film buffs. In the end "Starship Troopers" has had a lot more staying power than a film like Avatar.

    Replies: @vinteuil, @No Recent Commenting History

  153. @John Pepple
    Is there something preventing people on the right from making their own movies?

    Replies: @jschmid4, @James Speaks, @Mr. Anon

    Yes, a lack of (((financing, hordes of woke film industry workers, and a hostile environment))).

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @James Speaks



    Is there something preventing people on the right from making their own movies?

     

    Yes, a lack of (((financing, hordes of woke film industry workers, and a hostile environment))).

     

    There are 49 other states, you realize. Nashville is the capital of one. If left-wing plutocrats can subsidize films that are guaranteed to lose big, you'd think a right-wing plutocrat might invest in films that have a good shot at a net return.

    Or other media.

    Conservatives lack imagination, by nature. What we need are reactionaries like Eric Rohmer.

    Replies: @James Speaks

  154. @Hannah Katz
    @al gore rhythms

    Yes but they forgot to mention that the evil White Christian Males that are really evil are all straight. So really it should be straight White Christian males. Moslems are always the good guys, or just victims of colonialists or something

    Replies: @James Speaks

    I guess you’ve never heard of the Holy Roman Catholic church nor their cadre of padres.

  155. I have another idea; it’s pretty revolutionary. What about a movie about a police officer… (wait for it)… WHO KNOWS MARTIAL ARTS!!

  156. @Bardon Kaldian
    @theMann

    I've said it earlier .... why do these troopers have only automatic rifles (sort of) to use against those big bugs? Where are starship troopers’ Vickers & Maxims? Howitzers? Apaches? A-10s?

    The same with Jurassic franchise. Why, among all those Velociraptors & T-Rexes, no one carries serious weapons?

    Replies: @theMann, @James O'Meara

    Screenwriter convenience. Those “Pitch Meeting” videos on YouTube are devastatingly funny eviscerations of just about any big Hollywood movie. “Surprisingly easy, barely an inconvenience” is now my favorite tag line. They don’t have one for ST but it would go like this.

    “Why do these troopers have only automatic rifles (sort of) to use against those big bugs? Where are starship troopers’ Vickers & Maxims? Howitzers? Apaches? A-10s?”

    “I don’t know”

    “Alright then.”

    The reason is that machine guns are “tight” to use Pitch Meeting lingo. Sexy. Screenwriters used to at least try. In that EuroBond rip off “OK Connery,” the Big Bad (Thunderball’s Adolfo Celi) has a machine that renders guns inoperative. How? Don’t know, but at least it’s a reason for Bond and the Good Guys to ride horses and shoot arrows in the Big Fight, because both are “tight” cinematically.

    Same reason the huge landing ships are grouped together next to each other, so that one or two meteorites hurled by the insects (using Bug Plasma shot from their asses) destroy the whole fleet: it makes Denise Richards a hero and it’s “tight”.

    In real life terms, sending someone across the universe with a machine gun is “tight” but security cam footage of fat America “soldiers” operating drones in a Wichita bunker isn’t.

  157. Anonymous[297] • Disclaimer says:

    Rather than Oscar winners, what looms larger in the mind of the critics is in terms of box office take and influence. e.g. Rocky 4, Rambo 2 & 3 from memory. Red Dawn. Maybe Hunt for Red October?

    What this represents is that even after practically total control of the movie production and distribution business, some movies still get made that are kind of pro-goyim and the goyim like a lot. i.e. despite all the brainwashing, it’s like that stubborn stain that refuses to wash out.

    BTW there are actually some Holodomor films made. I will have to watch them.

    https://m.imdb.com/list/ls025233669/

    To Steve’s point, if there is going to be a villain in a (((movie))), it’s generally going to be a wealthy white heterosexual guy, who is probably a Republican, nationalist, Christian, Nazi, or some combination thereof.

  158. @Not Only Wrathful
    @James O'Meara

    Nazi ideology was more than economic recovery + unsundering Germania.

    Schacht and von Schleicher, who deserve the credit for the policies of recovery, were not even Nazis.

    Mein Kampf reads like a politico-historical thesis written in the style of pseudo-intellectual Warhammer 40k fan fiction - fun but stoopid.

    The very idiosyncratic syncresis of beliefs that made up what was distinct about Nazi ideology was never popular.

    I do recognise that some of the more esoteric and spiritual stuff stolen from Tantric Buddhism and other sources is pretty profound, though hardly part of Nazi thought per se.

    Tragically, it, along with eugenics, the futurist aesthetic and (ultimately) Western civilization became collateral damage by tangential association with Nazi totalitarian excess.

    21st Century heroic European romanticism should have been a thing, but instead we get bland "whiteness" and all fun, expressiveness and spontaneity outsourced to "blackness."

    Even the dissident right, minus BAP et al, rigidly stick in that suffocating box.

    Hitler killed the heroic European spirit by taking on its mantle while being 180 degrees unworthy

    Replies: @James O'Meara

    “Hitler killed the heroic European spirit by taking on its mantle while being 180 degrees unworthy”

    Communism and NatSoc were both plebian movements, as Evola and Spengler, among others, recognized. This is congruent with Traditionalist doctrine, specifically the “Regression of the castes,” where society is led by (both politically and in terms of “setting the tone”) priests, then warriors, then merchants (Disraeli’s ‘nation of shopkeepers’), now proles.

    Evola thought the NS movement could be “directed” so as to emphasize the priestly/warrior elements (such as the SS) which were lacking in the entirely plebian Communist movement; real Nazis had no interest in this, as it turned out. (As for the Commies, the much maligned Frankfort School actually represented the aristo, elitist elements of German culture within Communism, hence their contempt for “pop culture” and other Americanisms). This was also his version of eugenics: rather than the NS “zoological racism” he promoted the idea of directing racial policy to promoting the higher, aristocratic features of culture and pruning the lower. (American conservatives would howl about spending “taxpayer money” on arts and other gay stuff, and demand, like good merchants, “let the market decide”).

    Steve Bannon had similar ideas: in the modern world cycle, the only elements of Tradition are found in the proles. See https://counter-currents.com/2020/10/hook-line-and-sinker/

    • Thanks: Not Only Wrathful
  159. @Larry, San Francisco
    @Polistra

    William Holden was a great actor. Kind of forgotten now but I forced my children to watch 5 of his best movies.
    1. Bridge over the River Kwai
    2. Bridges Toko Ri
    3. Sunset Boulevard
    4. Stalag 17
    5. The Wild Bunch

    They loved them.

    As for anti Commie movies has anyone mentioned Red Dawn it was stupid buy enjoyable

    Replies: @James O'Meara

    Not Network?

  160. @Bardon Kaldian
    @AnotherDad


    Your brain will simply be pumped full of more or whatever the current academic “wisdom” is. Since the rise of the Jews in the 60s, that’s been minoritarianism. (At least an order of magnitude more ridiculous–and much more deadly–than whatever kool-aid Louisa May Alcott was swilling.)

    No. Stay in the Midwest and study something reasonably practical. Just read from the Western cannon to stroke your literary button.
     
    Here we go again: Jooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooz.

    Replies: @AnotherDad, @Mr. Anon

    I know. I know.

    JackD’s explained it to me: Jews punch way, way, way above their weight–Nobel Prizes! And my people would be living in sod huts on the prairie inflicted with polio but for Jews coming and making America great–except for political and cultural matters where Jews are a big nothingburger and are–as educated whites–just aping the appropriate ideology from the reigning WASP zeitgeist.

    I just keep forgetting … and somehow think Jews have something to do with how white men are depicted by Hollywood. Silly–my goyishe kopf. Apologies.

    • Replies: @Bardon Kaldian
    @AnotherDad

    Don't put into my mouth something I have never said.

    Like sex & taxes, Jews seem to be a perennial theme.

    As for accomplishment: now, Jews, this old & talented ethno-religious group is in the great creative period of their existence, which has been lasting as yet ca. 150 years. Many other groups or peoples have had such periods- Italians, say, 1300-1600; English up and down, but let’s take a look at the 1550-1750 period. During this time, the English had produced: Tallis, Byrd, Purcell- composers, Boyle (Irish- English extraction)- father of chemistry, Shakespeare, Milton, Donne, …-literature, Bacon, Hobbes, Locke, Berkeley-philosophy, Gilbert- discovered magnetism, Harvey- physiology, blood circulation, Newton- the greatest scientist ever, Halley- astronomy, Cavendish- physics & chemistry, discovered hydrogen, ..

    So, just in this 200 years span the English had created enormously more than Jews in the past 2000 years. And- what does this have to do with IQ & other stuff ? Nothing.

    Periods of creativity & influence come & go.

    Jews last for ca. 3000 yrs; English, French & Germans for ca. 1000 (even less, as definitely crystallized groups). Germans are recognizable for ca. 700 years; English, in more or less current shape for 600-700 years.

    Almost all historical figures, from ancient Greece & Rome to Goethe and Voltaire, had castigated Jews as vulgar, unoriginal, barbaric, sneaky, cunning but without nobility of spirit; essentially not creative & parasitic. Not some Christian fanatics, but enlightened spirits. Until 1933. the only philo-Semitic creative persons were, as I recall, George Eliot and James Joyce. All others (Marx, Tolstoy, Dostoevsky, Wittgenstein, Wagner, Voltaire, Proust, Kant, Goethe, Degas, Proudhon, Henry James, Henry Adams, Nietzsche (a complex question), Chesterton, ..) were, to say the least, not very sympathetic towards them. Ludwig Wittgenstein, one of the greatest 20th C philosophers-partly of Jewish extraction- complained about what he (wrongly) perceived as his creative sterility as having something to do with Jewishness: “Amongst Jews, “genius” is found only in the holy man. Even the greatest of Jewish thinkers is no more than talented. (Myself, for instance). I think there is some truth to the idea I only think reproductively. I don’t think I have ever invented a single line of thinking. I have always taken one from someone else ..”
    Now, that’s too harsh, but has an element of truth.

    I don’t want to denigrate Jewish creativity in past 150 years in various fields, just- it could flourish only in the broader context of Gentile creativity & frequently- not always- after it. Jews’ creative accomplishments last some 150 years & are, mostly, the result of complete assimilation into host cultures, with characteristic traits of these cultures.

    Even in past 100-150 years, it was Gentiles -with a few exceptions like Einstein- who produced most enduring science, technology & culture in all fields (Diesel, Edison, Ziolkowski and Goddard, Loggie Baird, Joyce and Proust, Picasso and Stravinsky, Planck, Heisenberg, Dirac and Schrodinger, Morgan and Watson, Darwin and Ronald Fisher,…). I admire very much Kafka, Mahler, Marvin Minsky, Salman Waksman, John von Neumann, Hermann Broch, Karl Landsteiner, …(I included converts)- but evidently their accomplishment was & is a spin-off of German Enlightenment & assimilation into Western culture.

    As for supposed numerical disparity: Jews were, prior to WW2, comparable to other peoples (20 M Jews; 45 M British; 65 M Germans, ..); in past 500 -1000 years enormous “Gentile” energies went to warfare & various blood lettings (100 yrs war; 30 yrs war- 60% of Germans perished; conquest of Americas & the Orient; Napoleonic wars; WW1 and WW2,.. ). At the same time, British had the energy to:
    a) begin Industrial revolution
    b) wage wars against Napoleon
    c) make discoveries in mathematics, chemistry, physics (Hamilton, Young, Davy,..)
    d) begin sweeping social reforms

    Now, that’s something.

  161. Let’s Otherize a group of people

    When has that ever gone wrong?

  162. @David In TN
    @Harry Baldwin

    I saw Seagal's Marked for Death (1990) on a movie channel years ago. I think its the only "crime" story movie I can recall with black villains.

    Around 2007 a movie based on the 2006 book co-authored by former SFPD Chief Earl Sanders on the 1973-74 Zebra murders was announced. Jamie Foxx was supposed to star as a black detective solving the murder spree. Actually, Sanders and his partner did NOT solve the crimes. They were just two detectives among many others. Practically the whole SFPD was on it.

    There was a bit of an outcry that the premise of Sanders solving the case was false. The book he co-authored is mainly wailing about how he was discriminated against. The murders are almost secondary.

    As it happened the movie was not made. Most likely it was decided a movie with blacks brutally murdering whites wholesale was not a good idea.

    Replies: @Mr. Anon

    Around 2007 a movie based on the 2006 book co-authored by former SFPD Chief Earl Sanders on the 1973-74 Zebra murders was announced. Jamie Foxx was supposed to star as a black detective solving the murder spree. Actually, Sanders and his partner did NOT solve the crimes. They were just two detectives among many others. Practically the whole SFPD was on it.

    There was a bit of an outcry that the premise of Sanders solving the case was false. The book he co-authored is mainly wailing about how he was discriminated against. The murders are almost secondary.

    As it happened the movie was not made. Most likely it was decided a movie with blacks brutally murdering whites wholesale was not a good idea.

    Didn’t Jamie Foxx go on to make that movie anyway – the movie with blacks brutally killing whites. Except he was the killer and it was called Django Unchained

  163. @Bardon Kaldian
    @AnotherDad


    Your brain will simply be pumped full of more or whatever the current academic “wisdom” is. Since the rise of the Jews in the 60s, that’s been minoritarianism. (At least an order of magnitude more ridiculous–and much more deadly–than whatever kool-aid Louisa May Alcott was swilling.)

    No. Stay in the Midwest and study something reasonably practical. Just read from the Western cannon to stroke your literary button.
     
    Here we go again: Jooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooz.

    Replies: @AnotherDad, @Mr. Anon

    Yeah, it’s crazy to impute to one particular group that has an enormous presence and influence in Hollywood how Hollywood depicts people who are not of that group.

    That’s just crazy-talk!

    • Replies: @Bardon Kaldian
    @Mr. Anon

    Pooh.... just an example. Spielberg's Munich.

    Spielberg’s Munich is an unrealistic portrayal of revenge killings of Palestinian terrorists. The director’s position is ambiguous; he is a typical liberal secular Jew, preaching universalism & aalways worried about morality. His movies, when not fantasies, are evidently pro-Catholic (or at least have been so far): in Munich, he invents a super-Catholic family (pater familias is Michael Lonsdale) which helps Israelis to locate Palis (absolutely ahistorical); in Schindler’s List, Schindler, a “good German” is so evidently a Catholic that it is rubbed in our faces (Amon Goeth/Fiennes was also a Catholic, at least technically, but it is not even inferred).

    In Munich, we see that Spielberg tries to make a moral drama, but, with some good parts, mostly fails. Re realism: his Israeli pro hitmen are drowning in moral dilemmas, while in reality those guys are functioning psychos, always under supervision of psychiatrists lest they go bonkers; then, with regard to psychology, Spielberg has got everything wrong: true, it is a connection between male sexuality & sadism, but when he tries to present Bana character screwing his wife, Bana’s consciousness is permeated with images of Palestinian terrorists executing Israeli sportspeople & camera is focused on Israelis shuddering in fear, submission & horror. This is all wrong: Bana’s wife should be role-playing, psycho-sexually, the role of Israelis & Bana, the role of Palestinian executioners.

    Psychosexually, Spielberg got everything wrong.

    Then, most ethnic Hollywood Jewish directors find Christian, especially Catholic iconography alluring. Judaism, not being a too visual religion (similar to most of Protestantism) is not conductive to lush filmmaking.

    As the old witticism goes, Hollywood in its Golden Age was once described as "a Jewish-owned business selling Catholic theology to a Protestant America."

    And go to their places so that they finally sign the petition:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dGFOf1ezyfI

    Replies: @Mr. Anon

  164. White Christian Villains: Pulitzer winner Theodore Sorensen John F Kennedy in Profiles in Courage praised the brave Republican senators who refused to convict Andrew Johnson.

    My, how things have changed:

    Our Two Worst Presidents Were Both Total Racial Arsonists

    This is Beast “members only”. Anyone here who can clue us in on Johnson’s and Trump’s particular “racial arsons”? I mean, worse than Jackson, Wilson, and the other Johnson? Or Lincoln’s “physical difference” speeches?

    A handy rule of thumb for presidential rankings is to turn the list upside-down. It makes more sense that way. Trump looks pretty damn good on that score. But it’s hard to beat Harding.

  165. @David In TN
    @Mr. Anon

    The Secret Ways (1961) just came out on DVD and Blu-Ray. I've never seen it on a movie channel, TCM included.

    Richard Widmark stars as an American soldier of fortune (his characterization is similar to Widmark's submarine commander in Hell and High Water) hired to rescue a Hungarian scientist wanted by the Russians to escape from Budapest. The problem is the scientist is a staunch freedom fighter who wants to stay and keep up the struggle.

    Phil Karlson was assigned to direct but Karlson wanted to make the story a spoof as he did a few years later with the Matt Helm movies. By the way, the Matt Helm novels are very good with evil communist villains.

    The Matt Helm series as written by Donald Hamilton made James Bond look like a cream puff. Karlson ruined the Matt Helm character.

    Richard Widmark, a liberal democrat BTW, wanted The Secret Ways to be a straight story and is supposed to have taken over the direction from Karlson.

    Replies: @Mr. Anon, @Jim Don Bob

    And based on a novel by Alistair MacLean.

    Thanks for the info.

  166. Could this short film turn out to be prophetic for the early phase of sleepy Joe’s America?

  167. @enochian
    I like to think the aliens in James Cameron's Aliens were a metaphor for communist insurgents. And the movie did shamelessly promote us vs them xenophobia. Possibly the most right wing movie of all time? (And if not, just what is the most right wing movie of all time?)

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @West reanimator

    It’s a feminist movie wherein the women combatants are equally as competent as the men, if not moreso. Not “right wing”.

  168. @Escher
    https://www.smith.edu/sites/default/files/media/Featured%20Content%20Block/Ann-Hornaday-504.jpg

    Looks like Ms. Hornaday could do with a “horn” a day, if you know what I mean.

    Replies: @Ancient Briton

    Looks like Dame Edna’s plainer sister.

  169. @Joe Stalin
    @Harry Baldwin

    In the DVD commentary for the 1985 Commando Rae Dawn Chong talks of the small Mexicans being destroyed by Arnold where that scene was shot.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BMyHYFOan1I
    [53:20]

    She talks here of being cast in that movie.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S5tNRZQXXlk

    Not a whiner at this point in her career.

    Replies: @anon

    Rae Chong played Ika in Quest for Fire circa 1981, her costume consisting largely of paint. Parts of the flick were filmed in an African desert. So, not a whiner.

    Seems to have difficulty retaining a husband, though.

  170. anon[167] • Disclaimer says:
    @Aeronerauk
    @Harry Baldwin

    To Seagal's credit the Jamaican gang and its leader are portrayed as cunning and in the process of replacing the white mafia's hold on the drug trade. Their portrayal is pretty flattering if you ignore the criminal element... and also any time one of the Jamaicans decide to fight Seagal.

    Great memories of watching this and other early Seagal flicks with my father.

    Replies: @anon, @Harry Baldwin

    . Their portrayal is pretty flattering if you ignore the criminal element…

    There’s a couple of clever moments in the plot line. A key plot element is heard in the crummy audio of this vid clip, along with Jimmy Cliff’s band.

    Some may find the visual pretty interesting also.

  171. @Polistra
    Ann Hornaday is merely updating to the Current Year the old WaPo chestnut wherein Stephen Hunter interprets Starship Troopers as a Nazi Plot to subvert the minds of America's tender youth.

    GOOSESTEPPING AT THE MOVIES


    It's spiritually Nazi, psychologically Nazi. It comes directly out of the Nazi imagination, and is set in the Nazi universe.
     
    Sounds sorta Nazi, doesn't it?


    They have oddly square faces and broad cheekbones, unprominent noses. They're blond or at least fair and boast some of the whitest choppers seen this side of a Dentyne commercial. But it's more than shape and form: Their faces are also somehow uncomplicated, almost cartoon versions in flesh of actual humanity. Van Dien and Richards are particularly noteworthy in this regard. There's a simplicity and emotionless beauty that's far too vivid to be coincidental. They are generic. And all through the cast you see other iterations of the same principle: smooth, hairless, square, almost idealized faces. Even the odd token black person in this universe has the same bone structure and close-cropped hair.
     
    Yep. Even the Negroes are Nazi, that's how Nazi it is.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Not Only Wrathful, @Peter Akuleyev, @El Dato, @Chris Mallory

    Hunter is a gun guy who served two years in The Old Guard. His books have overwhelmingly White protagonists, usually traditional American, rural White men who are comfortable with both guns and violence. In Hunter’s world, you can have no better ally than the rural Southern White man or no tougher enemy.

    He usually writes blacks as helpless before the White man. Hispanics get a little better treatment. He tried to introduce a substitute for Bob Lee Swagger, his main protagonist who is getting long in the tooth, with Bob’s half Viet son who for some reason has a Spanish name. It must not have sold, since he dropped the character after one solo book. The Japanese get some respect, while other Asians are little more than background clutter or targets to be shot.

    Hunter did write at least one book with German bad guys, set during the war and based around an assassin using a modified STG-44, the rifle was the real star of the book.

    Hunter’s usual bad guys are White, almost like he doesn’t consider blacks to be worthy opponents for his characters.

  172. @AnotherDad
    @Bardon Kaldian

    I know. I know.

    JackD's explained it to me: Jews punch way, way, way above their weight--Nobel Prizes! And my people would be living in sod huts on the prairie inflicted with polio but for Jews coming and making America great--except for political and cultural matters where Jews are a big nothingburger and are--as educated whites--just aping the appropriate ideology from the reigning WASP zeitgeist.

    I just keep forgetting ... and somehow think Jews have something to do with how white men are depicted by Hollywood. Silly--my goyishe kopf. Apologies.

    Replies: @Bardon Kaldian

    Don’t put into my mouth something I have never said.

    Like sex & taxes, Jews seem to be a perennial theme.

    As for accomplishment: now, Jews, this old & talented ethno-religious group is in the great creative period of their existence, which has been lasting as yet ca. 150 years. Many other groups or peoples have had such periods- Italians, say, 1300-1600; English up and down, but let’s take a look at the 1550-1750 period. During this time, the English had produced: Tallis, Byrd, Purcell- composers, Boyle (Irish- English extraction)- father of chemistry, Shakespeare, Milton, Donne, …-literature, Bacon, Hobbes, Locke, Berkeley-philosophy, Gilbert- discovered magnetism, Harvey- physiology, blood circulation, Newton- the greatest scientist ever, Halley- astronomy, Cavendish- physics & chemistry, discovered hydrogen, ..

    So, just in this 200 years span the English had created enormously more than Jews in the past 2000 years. And- what does this have to do with IQ & other stuff ? Nothing.

    Periods of creativity & influence come & go.

    Jews last for ca. 3000 yrs; English, French & Germans for ca. 1000 (even less, as definitely crystallized groups). Germans are recognizable for ca. 700 years; English, in more or less current shape for 600-700 years.

    Almost all historical figures, from ancient Greece & Rome to Goethe and Voltaire, had castigated Jews as vulgar, unoriginal, barbaric, sneaky, cunning but without nobility of spirit; essentially not creative & parasitic. Not some Christian fanatics, but enlightened spirits. Until 1933. the only philo-Semitic creative persons were, as I recall, George Eliot and James Joyce. All others (Marx, Tolstoy, Dostoevsky, Wittgenstein, Wagner, Voltaire, Proust, Kant, Goethe, Degas, Proudhon, Henry James, Henry Adams, Nietzsche (a complex question), Chesterton, ..) were, to say the least, not very sympathetic towards them. Ludwig Wittgenstein, one of the greatest 20th C philosophers-partly of Jewish extraction- complained about what he (wrongly) perceived as his creative sterility as having something to do with Jewishness: “Amongst Jews, “genius” is found only in the holy man. Even the greatest of Jewish thinkers is no more than talented. (Myself, for instance). I think there is some truth to the idea I only think reproductively. I don’t think I have ever invented a single line of thinking. I have always taken one from someone else ..”
    Now, that’s too harsh, but has an element of truth.

    I don’t want to denigrate Jewish creativity in past 150 years in various fields, just- it could flourish only in the broader context of Gentile creativity & frequently- not always- after it. Jews’ creative accomplishments last some 150 years & are, mostly, the result of complete assimilation into host cultures, with characteristic traits of these cultures.

    Even in past 100-150 years, it was Gentiles -with a few exceptions like Einstein- who produced most enduring science, technology & culture in all fields (Diesel, Edison, Ziolkowski and Goddard, Loggie Baird, Joyce and Proust, Picasso and Stravinsky, Planck, Heisenberg, Dirac and Schrodinger, Morgan and Watson, Darwin and Ronald Fisher,…). I admire very much Kafka, Mahler, Marvin Minsky, Salman Waksman, John von Neumann, Hermann Broch, Karl Landsteiner, …(I included converts)- but evidently their accomplishment was & is a spin-off of German Enlightenment & assimilation into Western culture.

    As for supposed numerical disparity: Jews were, prior to WW2, comparable to other peoples (20 M Jews; 45 M British; 65 M Germans, ..); in past 500 -1000 years enormous “Gentile” energies went to warfare & various blood lettings (100 yrs war; 30 yrs war- 60% of Germans perished; conquest of Americas & the Orient; Napoleonic wars; WW1 and WW2,.. ). At the same time, British had the energy to:
    a) begin Industrial revolution
    b) wage wars against Napoleon
    c) make discoveries in mathematics, chemistry, physics (Hamilton, Young, Davy,..)
    d) begin sweeping social reforms

    Now, that’s something.

  173. If you want a credible villain, of course he has to be White or depending on the story Asian. The two movies mentioned above with black villains had the blacks with no greater aims than taking over the drug trade in the ghetto. Could you see Hans Gruber as black? Are you going to buy a black mastermind who pulls the strings in a great conspiracy?

  174. @Mr. Anon
    @Bardon Kaldian

    Yeah, it's crazy to impute to one particular group that has an enormous presence and influence in Hollywood how Hollywood depicts people who are not of that group.

    That's just crazy-talk!

    Replies: @Bardon Kaldian

    Pooh…. just an example. Spielberg’s Munich.

    Spielberg’s Munich is an unrealistic portrayal of revenge killings of Palestinian terrorists. The director’s position is ambiguous; he is a typical liberal secular Jew, preaching universalism & aalways worried about morality. His movies, when not fantasies, are evidently pro-Catholic (or at least have been so far): in Munich, he invents a super-Catholic family (pater familias is Michael Lonsdale) which helps Israelis to locate Palis (absolutely ahistorical); in Schindler’s List, Schindler, a “good German” is so evidently a Catholic that it is rubbed in our faces (Amon Goeth/Fiennes was also a Catholic, at least technically, but it is not even inferred).

    In Munich, we see that Spielberg tries to make a moral drama, but, with some good parts, mostly fails. Re realism: his Israeli pro hitmen are drowning in moral dilemmas, while in reality those guys are functioning psychos, always under supervision of psychiatrists lest they go bonkers; then, with regard to psychology, Spielberg has got everything wrong: true, it is a connection between male sexuality & sadism, but when he tries to present Bana character screwing his wife, Bana’s consciousness is permeated with images of Palestinian terrorists executing Israeli sportspeople & camera is focused on Israelis shuddering in fear, submission & horror. This is all wrong: Bana’s wife should be role-playing, psycho-sexually, the role of Israelis & Bana, the role of Palestinian executioners.

    Psychosexually, Spielberg got everything wrong.

    Then, most ethnic Hollywood Jewish directors find Christian, especially Catholic iconography alluring. Judaism, not being a too visual religion (similar to most of Protestantism) is not conductive to lush filmmaking.

    As the old witticism goes, Hollywood in its Golden Age was once described as “a Jewish-owned business selling Catholic theology to a Protestant America.”

    And go to their places so that they finally sign the petition:

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
    @Bardon Kaldian

    So, in Munich, the guys whom you say were probably psychopathic killers (the actual Israeli assassins murdered a completely innocent Jordanian waiter in Norway, mistakenly thinking he was one of the Black September terrorists) are portrayed as hand-wringing, morally troubled humanitarians.

    I think you're making my point.

    Allthough by-in-large, you studiously avoided addressing my main point - that Hollywoods roster of stock villains just happens to be the boogeymen of the ethnic group that largely controls that business. Unless you maintain they don't largely control that business. Which would just be silly.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

  175. @Mr. Anon
    Even just trying to name any anti-communist movie, let alone one that was nominated for an Oscar, can be challenging. Here are a few:

    The Bridges at Toko-Ri (1954)

    The Secret Ways (1961)

    Torn Curtain (1966)

    The Green Berets (1968)

    Topaz (1969)

    Coming Out of the Ice (1982, TV Movie)

    Stalin (1992, TV Movie)

    Chernobyl (2019, Teleplay)

    Replies: @Polistra, @David In TN, @JMcG

    The Manchurian Candidate.

    • Agree: Mr. Anon
    • Replies: @James O'Meara
    @JMcG

    A great movie, one of my favs, but a great anti-commie movie? I get the impression that it was intended as a "plague on both their houses" kind of movie, like Strangelove. Sen. Iselin is obviously McCarthy, and using him as an unwitting "asset" (as Adam Schiff would say about Trump) goes along with the "the Russians couldn't ask for a better foe than that clown McCarthy" or "the Russians couldn't do more damage than McCarthy himself" memes of the anti-anti-communists like Arthur Schlesinger.

    The Bad Guys are the Commies (working together, because the "experts" at the CIA didn't believe in the Sino-Soviet split) but Raymond's mother is the ultimate baddie. She exposits that she will seek revenge for the commies using her own son as the assassin, and "grind them into the dust." Does she just mean the coup plotters, or the commies altogether? Does she plan to run the country behind Sen/Pres. Iselin without the commies?

  176. @James Speaks
    @John Pepple

    Yes, a lack of (((financing, hordes of woke film industry workers, and a hostile environment))).

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    Is there something preventing people on the right from making their own movies?

    Yes, a lack of (((financing, hordes of woke film industry workers, and a hostile environment))).

    There are 49 other states, you realize. Nashville is the capital of one. If left-wing plutocrats can subsidize films that are guaranteed to lose big, you’d think a right-wing plutocrat might invest in films that have a good shot at a net return.

    Or other media.

    Conservatives lack imagination, by nature. What we need are reactionaries like Eric Rohmer.

    • Replies: @James Speaks
    @Reg Cæsar

    Nashville would be a good place to start. Tallahassee, too.

  177. @Reg Cæsar
    @James Speaks



    Is there something preventing people on the right from making their own movies?

     

    Yes, a lack of (((financing, hordes of woke film industry workers, and a hostile environment))).

     

    There are 49 other states, you realize. Nashville is the capital of one. If left-wing plutocrats can subsidize films that are guaranteed to lose big, you'd think a right-wing plutocrat might invest in films that have a good shot at a net return.

    Or other media.

    Conservatives lack imagination, by nature. What we need are reactionaries like Eric Rohmer.

    Replies: @James Speaks

    Nashville would be a good place to start. Tallahassee, too.

  178. @YetAnotherAnon
    @Skylark Thibedeau

    "Maybe one with the Commies of the Spanish Civil War shown in a bad light."

    Never seen or heard of such a thing - I thought the spell of Orwell and Hemingway was too strong.

    A recommended book for dispelling some of the romance is "The Spanish Pimpernel" by C.E. Lucas Phillips, out of print but available at places like Abebooks, the story of Christopher Lance, a military attache at the Madrid Embassy who smuggled (mostly) Nationalists out of Spain. The book describes how the moment Franco declared his revolt, the Nationalists in Madrid started arresting known conservatives and religious Catholics, who would be taken in lorryloads at night out to the countryside and shot dead.

    http://www.saxonlodge.net/getperson.php?personID=I4480&tree=Tatham


    At the outbreak of the Spanish Civil War in 1936, Lance was also an attaché at the British Embassy in Madrid and witnessed the carnage first hand. Many Spanish sought refuge in foreign embassies and he saw how much the Spanish around him were suffering. Using his diplomacy, great affability and skill at dealing with Spanish officials and guards, he organised escape routes from Madrid to the ports of Valencia and Alicante and onward by sea to Marseilles or Morocco. One of his tricks was to smuggle people out of Madrid in an ambulance unit kindly donated by a Scottish philanthropist, and take them to Alicante, where he would get them on board ships disguised as members of the crew - quite a chancer! He helped, not only, stranded British citizens but also Nationalists and Republicans alike, all people in danger of their lives as they became caught up in the war.

    Lance, apparently, always wore a conspicuous check jacket, and was brilliant at cracking jokes with the anarchist and communist militiamen, and bribing them with cigarettes. His language was liberally sprinkled with words like 'topping', 'old girl' and 'Hell's bells'! Such was his love of danger and risk-taking, that he even got to meet General Franco as well as Dolores Ibarruri - 'La Pasionaria', the feared leader of the Spanish Communist Party.
     

    Replies: @JMcG

    I’ll look for that. I can also recommend Peter Kemp’s “Mine Were of Trouble.” He was a young Englishman who went off to fight for Franco’s side. Not a great book, but a very good one. A corrrective to all the gauzy claptrap about the leftists in the Spanish Civil War.

  179. @SunBakedSuburb
    "I suspect I have better pattern recognition skills"

    Maybe. But you're not a big-picture guy like me.

    Replies: @Gary in Gramercy

    You tell him, Spiny Norman!

  180. @Polemos
    @Peter Akuleyev

    I didn't read Polistra as missing the point but instead making a point using subtlety and sarcasm. Polistra was making the point that eggheads are still with us and still . . . missing points.

    Replies: @Polistra

    Thanks; at least one person got it. Pearls before Swine is the phrase I believe. If you pitch it too low, everyone will ‘get it’ but you’ll have accomplished nothing. Pitch it too high and they’ll quickly be in confederacy

  181. @the one they call Desanex
    @the one they call Desanex

    https://i.postimg.cc/GmNgMJYp/hornaday.gif

    Replies: @Polistra

    Whoa, a Desanex app at last!

  182. @Peter Akuleyev
    A different question - what was the last Hollywood movie with a major black villain and white people as the good guys? Live and Let Die?

    Replies: @Harry Baldwin, @El Dato, @Anonymous, @kimchilover, @Jokah Macpherson, @BenKenobi, @Jenner Ickham Errican

    what was the last Hollywood movie with a major black villain and white people as the good guys? Live and Let Die?

    2014’s Kingsman: The Secret Service. Samuel L. Jackson’s villain character was a (reverse) twofer: Black and gay.

  183. @Forbes
    @Altai

    That must be why Tom Clancy's "The Sum of All Fears" movie was produced with neo-Nazi terrorists, rather than the Arab Muslim terrorists in the novel. Before 9/11.

    Because neo-Nazi terrorists were prominent throughout the late '90s.

    Replies: @HA

    “Because neo-Nazi terrorists were prominent throughout the late ’90s.”

    I have it on good authority that Sweden has more recently been over-run by neo-Nazis as well, or would have been, were it not for the plucky tattooed lesbian counter=insurgency standing in their way.

    • LOL: Bardon Kaldian
  184. @Too Long Didn't Read
    @AnotherDad

    I doubt Sailer has many young female readers

    I'm sure that there are some 45 year old women reading here.

    Replies: @MBlanc46

    And they are angry.

  185. @Aeronerauk
    @Harry Baldwin

    To Seagal's credit the Jamaican gang and its leader are portrayed as cunning and in the process of replacing the white mafia's hold on the drug trade. Their portrayal is pretty flattering if you ignore the criminal element... and also any time one of the Jamaicans decide to fight Seagal.

    Great memories of watching this and other early Seagal flicks with my father.

    Replies: @anon, @Harry Baldwin

    Before Seagal turned into a fat joke he was quite a plausible action hero. The fight choreography in his early movies is great.

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
    @Harry Baldwin


    Before Seagal turned into a fat joke he was quite a plausible action hero. The fight choreography in his early movies is great.
     
    Of all the movies that can be referred to as "Die Hard in/on a _______", Under Siege, aka "Die Hard on a Battleship" is the best one. It, along with of course Die Hard are the best "Die Hard" movies.
    , @Chris Mallory
    @Harry Baldwin

    Above the Law was Seagal's best. IMDB has him listed as doing a sequel to that one. Seagal has a respectable 58 acting credits in the past 30 years. But he has a ways to go to touch Danny Trejo with 400 acting credits or Eric Roberts with over 600 in the past 40 years.

  186. @Richard B
    @Bardon Kaldian


    Yawn ….. Non articles from non-people about non-people ….
     
    Yep. Absolutely. Every article chock-o-block full of hyperbole, cliches, self-pity masquerading as self-importance, unconscious violations of their own logic, and just plain bad writing. But, every once in a while, it's fun to point it out. So....

    Hyperbole:

    Celebrated Washington Post film critic Ann Hornaday
     
    Newspeak for Media Hack.

    Cliches:

    'the true alpha male,'
     

    "For generations, mass entertainment has been overwhelmingly controlled by white men, whose escapist fantasies so often revolve around vigilantism and sexual wish-fulfillment
     
    Self-Pity Masquerading as Self-Importance:

    If anything, the Internet has made the world a cruel, cruel place to be for cultural critics.
     
    Unconscious Violations of Their Own Logic:

    "For generations, mass entertainment has been overwhelmingly controlled by white men, whose escapist fantasies so often revolve around vigilantism and sexual wish-fulfillment
     
    Why would anyone poweful enough to control a multi-billion dollar enterprise like Hollywood need to indulge in espapist fanatasies and wish-fulfillment? (c. Media Hack above). Oh, and by the way, Hollywood isn't run by white men.

    And Just Plain Bad Writing:

    The common insatiable desire for interaction and connection that we all share has been afforded the tools to make such impulses not only more readily available, but also imperative. Imperative to submit to. Imperative to utilize.
     

    Replies: @Harry Baldwin

    Oh, and by the way, Hollywood isn’t run by white men.

    As an iSteve commenter once noted, the people who say “Hollywood is run by white men” don’t say “Hitler killed six million whites.”

    • Replies: @Richard B
    @Harry Baldwin


    As an iSteve commenter once noted, the people who say “Hollywood is run by white men” don’t say “Hitler killed six million whites.”
     
    Exactly!
  187. @R.G. Camara
    I've said it before: the Commies were almost never the bad guys in James Bond movies, or any movie in the Cold War, because Hollywood is communist trash protecting their own.

    The only James Bond movie where it is even hinted that commies might be the bad guys was You Only Live Twice, where SPECTRE are the bad guys (again), but they strongly implied they've been hired by Red China for the job---although it's never confirmed.

    Replies: @FPD72, @Peter D. Bredon

    the Commies were almost never the bad guys in James Bond movies, or any movie in the Cold War, because Hollywood is communist trash protecting their own.

    How about Goldfinger, in which the Chi-Coms conspire with Ari to detonate an atomic bomb in the gold vault at Ft. Knox? It’s a Communist device to which Bond is handcuffed before freeing himself and overcoming Oddjob and deactivating the Bomb with 007 seconds to spare.

    • Replies: @Peter D. Bredon
    @FPD72

    Sino-Soviet Split, 1956–1966

    Goldfinger, 1959 (book), 1964 (film)

    , @R.G. Camara
    @FPD72

    In Goldfinger (film), the Red Chinese involvement is downplayed, and its all about Goldfinger as the main baddie/genius rival to Bond. In fact, until your post, I had thought the Asian dudes were just goons Goldfinger hired as mercs.

    N.B. the Asian good squad in Goldfinger worked in several Bond movies as thugs, usually in masks so their race was unnoticeable.

  188. @Bardon Kaldian
    @Mr. Anon

    Pooh.... just an example. Spielberg's Munich.

    Spielberg’s Munich is an unrealistic portrayal of revenge killings of Palestinian terrorists. The director’s position is ambiguous; he is a typical liberal secular Jew, preaching universalism & aalways worried about morality. His movies, when not fantasies, are evidently pro-Catholic (or at least have been so far): in Munich, he invents a super-Catholic family (pater familias is Michael Lonsdale) which helps Israelis to locate Palis (absolutely ahistorical); in Schindler’s List, Schindler, a “good German” is so evidently a Catholic that it is rubbed in our faces (Amon Goeth/Fiennes was also a Catholic, at least technically, but it is not even inferred).

    In Munich, we see that Spielberg tries to make a moral drama, but, with some good parts, mostly fails. Re realism: his Israeli pro hitmen are drowning in moral dilemmas, while in reality those guys are functioning psychos, always under supervision of psychiatrists lest they go bonkers; then, with regard to psychology, Spielberg has got everything wrong: true, it is a connection between male sexuality & sadism, but when he tries to present Bana character screwing his wife, Bana’s consciousness is permeated with images of Palestinian terrorists executing Israeli sportspeople & camera is focused on Israelis shuddering in fear, submission & horror. This is all wrong: Bana’s wife should be role-playing, psycho-sexually, the role of Israelis & Bana, the role of Palestinian executioners.

    Psychosexually, Spielberg got everything wrong.

    Then, most ethnic Hollywood Jewish directors find Christian, especially Catholic iconography alluring. Judaism, not being a too visual religion (similar to most of Protestantism) is not conductive to lush filmmaking.

    As the old witticism goes, Hollywood in its Golden Age was once described as "a Jewish-owned business selling Catholic theology to a Protestant America."

    And go to their places so that they finally sign the petition:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dGFOf1ezyfI

    Replies: @Mr. Anon

    So, in Munich, the guys whom you say were probably psychopathic killers (the actual Israeli assassins murdered a completely innocent Jordanian waiter in Norway, mistakenly thinking he was one of the Black September terrorists) are portrayed as hand-wringing, morally troubled humanitarians.

    I think you’re making my point.

    Allthough by-in-large, you studiously avoided addressing my main point – that Hollywoods roster of stock villains just happens to be the boogeymen of the ethnic group that largely controls that business. Unless you maintain they don’t largely control that business. Which would just be silly.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Mr. Anon

    Are there any Jewish Bond Villains?

    Goldfinger is named after Jewish Brutalist architect Erno Goldfinger, but is supposedly modeled on Ian Fleming's friend in the South African gold business Charles Englehard, who appears to have been Catholic:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_W._Engelhard_Jr.

  189. @Old Prude
    @Franz

    The Maine Sunday Telegram last week featured a hysterical opinion piece from a gay kid whose parents are immigrants from Cambodia. He went on and on about the terror and oppression he and his LGBTQRST pals are suffering under Trump. He used those words "terror" and "oppression". I kept thinking, "Has this Cambodian fey ever seen "The Killing Feilds"? Has he ever heard of Pol Pot". His parents need to give him a good beating with a bamboo cane.

    Replies: @Franz, @vinteuil

    a gay kid whose parents are immigrants from Cambodia

    Is the good old USA getting enriched or what? Amazing!

    No empire prior to the twentieth century let drifters from freed colonies or failed wars come to a new home on the empire’s soil. Not with highly paid sponsors like the Knights of Columbus or the Hebrew Immigrant Aid organizations.

    Did the Brits start this with their Commonwealth immigration? While the old empires did get riffraff from their colonies, citizens already there were allowed to say what they pleased about their neighborhood turning into crappola.

    We not only can’t refuse them. As the New Untouchables, we’re expected to adjust to our superiors from abroad without a peep of protest. This can’t go on.

  190. @Harry Baldwin
    @Aeronerauk

    Before Seagal turned into a fat joke he was quite a plausible action hero. The fight choreography in his early movies is great.

    Replies: @Mr. Anon, @Chris Mallory

    Before Seagal turned into a fat joke he was quite a plausible action hero. The fight choreography in his early movies is great.

    Of all the movies that can be referred to as “Die Hard in/on a _______”, Under Siege, aka “Die Hard on a Battleship” is the best one. It, along with of course Die Hard are the best “Die Hard” movies.

  191. @Jokah Macpherson
    Is Thanos a white male Christian? He looks sort of bluish/pinkish to me but I don't know how he identifies.

    Replies: @Nothing

    Thanos was voiced and motion captured by a white man(Josh Brolin).

  192. @John Pepple
    Is there something preventing people on the right from making their own movies?

    Replies: @jschmid4, @James Speaks, @Mr. Anon

    Is there something preventing people on the right from making their own movies?

    Yes. Financing and distribution.

    Also finding actors. People who acted in the 2019 anti-abortion film Unplanned even said that they knew it would severely limit, if not kill, their acting career.

    https://www.imdb.com/title/tt9024106/

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Mr. Anon

    People on the right do make movies and TV, the shows just aren't explicitly on the right. Here's a "guardian" top ten poll by critics of their favorite movies of the 21st Century, and the directors lean right:

    https://www.unz.com/isteve/the-100-best-movies-of-this-century/

  193. @Mr. Anon
    @John Pepple


    Is there something preventing people on the right from making their own movies?
     
    Yes. Financing and distribution.

    Also finding actors. People who acted in the 2019 anti-abortion film Unplanned even said that they knew it would severely limit, if not kill, their acting career.

    https://www.imdb.com/title/tt9024106/

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    People on the right do make movies and TV, the shows just aren’t explicitly on the right. Here’s a “guardian” top ten poll by critics of their favorite movies of the 21st Century, and the directors lean right:

    https://www.unz.com/isteve/the-100-best-movies-of-this-century/

  194. @Mr. Anon
    @Bardon Kaldian

    So, in Munich, the guys whom you say were probably psychopathic killers (the actual Israeli assassins murdered a completely innocent Jordanian waiter in Norway, mistakenly thinking he was one of the Black September terrorists) are portrayed as hand-wringing, morally troubled humanitarians.

    I think you're making my point.

    Allthough by-in-large, you studiously avoided addressing my main point - that Hollywoods roster of stock villains just happens to be the boogeymen of the ethnic group that largely controls that business. Unless you maintain they don't largely control that business. Which would just be silly.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    Are there any Jewish Bond Villains?

    Goldfinger is named after Jewish Brutalist architect Erno Goldfinger, but is supposedly modeled on Ian Fleming’s friend in the South African gold business Charles Englehard, who appears to have been Catholic:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_W._Engelhard_Jr.

  195. Gorky Park. The villain is American, the hero Russian, but the side villains are KGB.

    Local Hero the Russian guy from the fishing boat who visits the Scottish seaside town (apparently frequently) is positively portrayed.

  196. @Steve Sailer
    @Bies Podkrakowski

    Verhoeven is still pretty good in his old age. His 2006 WWII film "Black Book" was voted by his Dutch countrymen as the greatest movie ever made in the Netherlands.

    Replies: @theMann, @Ganderson

    Soldier of Orange was quite good as well.

  197. @vinteuil
    @Peter Akuleyev


    That is the reading of the film that made it popular.
     
    What are you talking about? The film wasn't "popular." It was a box-office dud.

    Replies: @Peter Akuleyev

    Hardly a “dud”. The film grossed 121 million worldwide, spawned several sequels, and has a solid cult following among SciFi film buffs. In the end “Starship Troopers” has had a lot more staying power than a film like Avatar.

    • Replies: @vinteuil
    @Peter Akuleyev

    It cost about twice as much to make as Robocop, and made about half as much money, worldwide.

    If not quite a dud, it was definitely a disappointment.

    Replies: @Chris Mallory

    , @No Recent Commenting History
    @Peter Akuleyev

    spawned several sequels,

    None of which were actually shown in theaters.

    has a solid cult following among SciFi film buffs.

    Well, so do "Robot Monster" and "Plan 9 from Outer Space" and "Manos: The Hands of Fate", etc....but not exactly for artistic reasons.

    FWIW an actual veteran guy gave me this review back when:


    The only part of "Starship Troopers" that's really worth watching is the shower scene. All the rest is forgettable camp.
     
  198. @Auntie Analogue
    Off the top of my head, a few movies with Bad Commies:

    - The Manchurian Candidate - a Red Chinese/NoKo-brainwashed American Korean War POW veteran mole-assassin as the trigger to a Communist coup in the U.S., but the real villains are the U.S. Senator and his wife who would have been the power-grabbing beneficiaries of the coup. (Did not see the later remake starring D. Washington.)

    - The Rack - Paul Newman plays Korean War former POW who survived brutal captivity & torture, ends up convicted at court martial of collaboration during his captivity

    - The Hanoi Hilton - American POW's under brutal North Vietnamese isolation, deprivation, torture

    - The Spy Who Came In From The Cold - Claire Bloom plays a naïve British socialist/Communist who's shot dead by East German border guards while trying to escape over the Berlin Wall. But the British spy Alec Leamas played by Richard Burton is shown as a burnout fed up with both sides in the Cold War.

    - Time Limit - Richard Basehart plays former Korean War POW on trial for collaboration with the NoKo enemy

    - Big Jim McClain - John Wayne & James Arness play HUAC investigators working to put the kibosh on an American Communist Party (CPUSA) outfit in Hawaii.

    Replies: @Known Fact, @SunBakedSuburb, @cylindrical crown

    For a weekly series: “I Led Three Lives”. Herbert A. Philbrick.

  199. Funny, seems white christian males are always the villains in most of the stuff the entertainment media puts out. And in a “mystery” that blatant christian guy seemingly in there for no reason will surely turn out to be the bad guy. I turned off that “Boardwalk Empire” after a few episodes once I realized the FBI guy was being portrayed as a mentally deranged, self flagellating christian loon. Saw Footloose recently and John Lithgow’s preacher character is the main antagonist of the thing. Paul Sorvino playing a parody of Billy Graham was the villain in Oh God way back in 1977. The “Handmaid’s Tale” theme has been there in everything in a more subtle way if you look for it.

  200. Hell, Toy Story 3 has a Southern man as the villain (teddy bear).

    British, Southern and German villains are the usual choices, as they represent the three great military victories of USG.

    USG is your local Orwellian theocratic oligarchy. Tomorrow is one of its high holy days. I’m going to sleep in.

  201. @FPD72
    @R.G. Camara


    the Commies were almost never the bad guys in James Bond movies, or any movie in the Cold War, because Hollywood is communist trash protecting their own.
     
    How about Goldfinger, in which the Chi-Coms conspire with Ari to detonate an atomic bomb in the gold vault at Ft. Knox? It’s a Communist device to which Bond is handcuffed before freeing himself and overcoming Oddjob and deactivating the Bomb with 007 seconds to spare.

    Replies: @Peter D. Bredon, @R.G. Camara

    Sino-Soviet Split, 1956–1966

    Goldfinger, 1959 (book), 1964 (film)

  202. @R.G. Camara
    I've said it before: the Commies were almost never the bad guys in James Bond movies, or any movie in the Cold War, because Hollywood is communist trash protecting their own.

    The only James Bond movie where it is even hinted that commies might be the bad guys was You Only Live Twice, where SPECTRE are the bad guys (again), but they strongly implied they've been hired by Red China for the job---although it's never confirmed.

    Replies: @FPD72, @Peter D. Bredon

    True, but in the case of the Bond films, the early books are Bond vs. SMERSH (Russians), but by the time they started filming, with Dr No, Fleming (or Kevin McClory, as would be litigated for decades) had developed the idea of SPECTRE. Movie-No corrects Bond’s misapprehension that he is working for SMERSH and explains about SPECTRE; in FRWL, the Russians don’t know that Klebb is now working for Blofeld. Goldfinger is an outlier, but using the Red Chinese is OK since everyone, US and Russia, hate the Chinese.

    SPECTRE makes it possible to have a revolving cast of supervillains, which is good if you plan on a franchise. And even the pro-Commies can hate SPECTRE, so it makes for bigger boxoffice.

    It’s “tight”.

  203. @James O'Meara
    @Ghost of Bull Moose

    As Trevor Lynch points out, in The Present Age, any even remotely "conservative" or "right wing" sentiment can only be articulated by bad guys, the more crazy and evil the better (Nolan's Joker or Bane, that other Joker, Travis Bickle, etc.)

    This creates a problem, even if you don't realize you can decode the message, because, as you say, the bad guys are the more interesting.

    I predict that the Woke will have the same problem as Christians or Communists: in order to avoid "glamorizing evil," they will have to produce sappy, saccharine movies etc. where everyone is good. Back to the days of the Hayes Code, married couples in separate beds, no one being "pregnant", etc.

    Interestingly, Derek Hawthorne over at Counter-Currents has written on German cinema under the National Socialists. He claims to have seen quite a bit of it, and apart from obvious stuff like Jew Suss and The Eternal Jew, there was surprisingly little overt propagandizing. Imagine, works of cinematic genius turned out by White people with no Jewish interference! But of course, no one knows about them, since "Nazi films" are forbidden.

    Replies: @Ghost of Bull Moose, @Occasional lurker

    Most films under NS/Goebbels leadership were pure entertainment, meant to keep up people’s spirits during the war and reduce discontent with the regime, which was rife after Stalingrad. They were called Durchhaltefilme. Most Germans had not wanted the war to begin with, but were placated by the early successes. That no longer worked when the luck turned and the war came home with bomb raids.

  204. @Peter Akuleyev
    @vinteuil

    Hardly a "dud". The film grossed 121 million worldwide, spawned several sequels, and has a solid cult following among SciFi film buffs. In the end "Starship Troopers" has had a lot more staying power than a film like Avatar.

    Replies: @vinteuil, @No Recent Commenting History

    It cost about twice as much to make as Robocop, and made about half as much money, worldwide.

    If not quite a dud, it was definitely a disappointment.

    • Replies: @Chris Mallory
    @vinteuil


    It cost about twice as much to make as Robocop, and made about half as much money, worldwide.
     
    From what I can find, Robocop had a budget of $13 million and a box office of $55 million. ST had a budget of $100 million and a box office of $121 million. Robocop was a better return on investment.
  205. @Old Prude
    @Franz

    The Maine Sunday Telegram last week featured a hysterical opinion piece from a gay kid whose parents are immigrants from Cambodia. He went on and on about the terror and oppression he and his LGBTQRST pals are suffering under Trump. He used those words "terror" and "oppression". I kept thinking, "Has this Cambodian fey ever seen "The Killing Feilds"? Has he ever heard of Pol Pot". His parents need to give him a good beating with a bamboo cane.

    Replies: @Franz, @vinteuil

    He went on and on about the terror and oppression he and his LGBTQRST pals are suffering under Trump.

    Most of the gay men I know are like this, now: hysterical feminized ninnies, completely unreachable by facts or evidence.

    • Replies: @Peter D. Bredon
    @vinteuil

    "Most of the gay men I know are like this, now: hysterical feminized ninnies, completely unreachable by facts or evidence."

    So, pretty much just like most Americans? I guess they really are "just like us".

  206. @Peter Akuleyev
    @vinteuil

    Hardly a "dud". The film grossed 121 million worldwide, spawned several sequels, and has a solid cult following among SciFi film buffs. In the end "Starship Troopers" has had a lot more staying power than a film like Avatar.

    Replies: @vinteuil, @No Recent Commenting History

    spawned several sequels,

    None of which were actually shown in theaters.

    has a solid cult following among SciFi film buffs.

    Well, so do “Robot Monster” and “Plan 9 from Outer Space” and “Manos: The Hands of Fate”, etc….but not exactly for artistic reasons.

    FWIW an actual veteran guy gave me this review back when:

    The only part of “Starship Troopers” that’s really worth watching is the shower scene. All the rest is forgettable camp.

  207. @David In TN
    @Mr. Anon

    The Secret Ways (1961) just came out on DVD and Blu-Ray. I've never seen it on a movie channel, TCM included.

    Richard Widmark stars as an American soldier of fortune (his characterization is similar to Widmark's submarine commander in Hell and High Water) hired to rescue a Hungarian scientist wanted by the Russians to escape from Budapest. The problem is the scientist is a staunch freedom fighter who wants to stay and keep up the struggle.

    Phil Karlson was assigned to direct but Karlson wanted to make the story a spoof as he did a few years later with the Matt Helm movies. By the way, the Matt Helm novels are very good with evil communist villains.

    The Matt Helm series as written by Donald Hamilton made James Bond look like a cream puff. Karlson ruined the Matt Helm character.

    Richard Widmark, a liberal democrat BTW, wanted The Secret Ways to be a straight story and is supposed to have taken over the direction from Karlson.

    Replies: @Mr. Anon, @Jim Don Bob

    By the way, the Matt Helm novels are very good with evil communist villains. The Matt Helm series as written by Donald Hamilton made James Bond look like a cream puff.

    +1

    Karlson ruined the Matt Helm character.

    True. The movies were dreadful.

    • Replies: @James O'Meara
    @Jim Don Bob

    Awful (each worse than the previous) but useful for analysis. In The Importance of James Bond (Counter-Currents, 2017) Jef Costello contrasts Bond and Helm & Flint movies:

    The freedom of Matt Helm is mere license. He’s out to make the world safe not for democracy and individual rights, but for boozing and boinking and sleeping till noon. That’s the American Dream, and he is living it.

    The American versions of Bond jettison all that is noble about the character and turn him into a grinning lothario, a self-involved hedonist, a perpetual adolescent, a vulgar operator always on the make. And please keep squarely in mind that this was done so that American audiences would have a character they could more easily identify with and root for. The American soul is rotten to the core.

  208. @Harry Baldwin
    @Aeronerauk

    Before Seagal turned into a fat joke he was quite a plausible action hero. The fight choreography in his early movies is great.

    Replies: @Mr. Anon, @Chris Mallory

    Above the Law was Seagal’s best. IMDB has him listed as doing a sequel to that one. Seagal has a respectable 58 acting credits in the past 30 years. But he has a ways to go to touch Danny Trejo with 400 acting credits or Eric Roberts with over 600 in the past 40 years.

  209. @vinteuil
    @Peter Akuleyev

    It cost about twice as much to make as Robocop, and made about half as much money, worldwide.

    If not quite a dud, it was definitely a disappointment.

    Replies: @Chris Mallory

    It cost about twice as much to make as Robocop, and made about half as much money, worldwide.

    From what I can find, Robocop had a budget of $13 million and a box office of $55 million. ST had a budget of $100 million and a box office of $121 million. Robocop was a better return on investment.

  210. @FPD72
    @R.G. Camara


    the Commies were almost never the bad guys in James Bond movies, or any movie in the Cold War, because Hollywood is communist trash protecting their own.
     
    How about Goldfinger, in which the Chi-Coms conspire with Ari to detonate an atomic bomb in the gold vault at Ft. Knox? It’s a Communist device to which Bond is handcuffed before freeing himself and overcoming Oddjob and deactivating the Bomb with 007 seconds to spare.

    Replies: @Peter D. Bredon, @R.G. Camara

    In Goldfinger (film), the Red Chinese involvement is downplayed, and its all about Goldfinger as the main baddie/genius rival to Bond. In fact, until your post, I had thought the Asian dudes were just goons Goldfinger hired as mercs.

    N.B. the Asian good squad in Goldfinger worked in several Bond movies as thugs, usually in masks so their race was unnoticeable.

  211. @JMcG
    @Mr. Anon

    The Manchurian Candidate.

    Replies: @James O'Meara

    A great movie, one of my favs, but a great anti-commie movie? I get the impression that it was intended as a “plague on both their houses” kind of movie, like Strangelove. Sen. Iselin is obviously McCarthy, and using him as an unwitting “asset” (as Adam Schiff would say about Trump) goes along with the “the Russians couldn’t ask for a better foe than that clown McCarthy” or “the Russians couldn’t do more damage than McCarthy himself” memes of the anti-anti-communists like Arthur Schlesinger.

    The Bad Guys are the Commies (working together, because the “experts” at the CIA didn’t believe in the Sino-Soviet split) but Raymond’s mother is the ultimate baddie. She exposits that she will seek revenge for the commies using her own son as the assassin, and “grind them into the dust.” Does she just mean the coup plotters, or the commies altogether? Does she plan to run the country behind Sen/Pres. Iselin without the commies?

  212. @Jim Don Bob
    @David In TN


    By the way, the Matt Helm novels are very good with evil communist villains. The Matt Helm series as written by Donald Hamilton made James Bond look like a cream puff.
     
    +1

    Karlson ruined the Matt Helm character.
     
    True. The movies were dreadful.

    Replies: @James O'Meara

    Awful (each worse than the previous) but useful for analysis. In The Importance of James Bond (Counter-Currents, 2017) Jef Costello contrasts Bond and Helm & Flint movies:

    The freedom of Matt Helm is mere license. He’s out to make the world safe not for democracy and individual rights, but for boozing and boinking and sleeping till noon. That’s the American Dream, and he is living it.

    The American versions of Bond jettison all that is noble about the character and turn him into a grinning lothario, a self-involved hedonist, a perpetual adolescent, a vulgar operator always on the make. And please keep squarely in mind that this was done so that American audiences would have a character they could more easily identify with and root for. The American soul is rotten to the core.

  213. @vinteuil
    @Old Prude


    He went on and on about the terror and oppression he and his LGBTQRST pals are suffering under Trump.
     
    Most of the gay men I know are like this, now: hysterical feminized ninnies, completely unreachable by facts or evidence.

    Replies: @Peter D. Bredon

    “Most of the gay men I know are like this, now: hysterical feminized ninnies, completely unreachable by facts or evidence.”

    So, pretty much just like most Americans? I guess they really are “just like us”.

  214. @Harry Baldwin
    @Richard B

    Oh, and by the way, Hollywood isn’t run by white men.

    As an iSteve commenter once noted, the people who say "Hollywood is run by white men" don't say "Hitler killed six million whites."

    Replies: @Richard B

    As an iSteve commenter once noted, the people who say “Hollywood is run by white men” don’t say “Hitler killed six million whites.”

    Exactly!

  215. @theMann
    @Bardon Kaldian

    Not even a giant can of Raid!

    I didn't say the film wasn't stupid, I just like it a little more than most Hollywood films since the characters in it are brave, tough, mostly honest, and have a real code of ethics that they live and die by. It is better than most Hollywood crap, not much, but better.

    Replies: @Polemos

    But the ethics the Mobile Infantry demonstrates serves a totalitarian state that regiments and breeds its people within power hierarchies, making them into components for its own growth and domination of the planet and surrounding space. The insects and the humans are mirrors of one another: consuming superorganisms.

    Consider the point of view of the insects, and notice that bravery, courage, tenacity, or resilience before insurmountable odds are also on display. They do not tire, do not stop unless shifting their attack, obey orders from the higherups, and march to war continuously.

    The humans are the bugs. Both are totalitarian societies following the same internal logics. If it weren’t obvious by the end of the movie, the sequels, especially the third make it clear.

    I don’t think it’s bad at all to value courage or bravery. I am very antithetical to totalitarian society precisely because it exploits these qualities in its best.

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