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The Washington Post expands at great length upon my August 24th observation that Jeb Bush exudes more leadership charisma in Spanish than in English:

Why Jeb Bush might want to campaign in Spanish

By Janell Ross September 3 at 10:01 AM

Jeb speaking English

Donald Trump famously called Jeb Bush “a very low-energy kind of guy.” The New York Times headlined a story this week with the words,”Jeb Bush is still waiting for polling to catch up with fundraising.” And in the final days of 2014, the American Spectator published, “The Overrated Candidate: The Case Against Jeb Bush.”

Unfortunately for Bush, the list does go on, and on, and on. It’s coming from what many would consider friendly corners and those who own said corners. It’s most definitely coming from foes. Bush has struggled, stumbled and staggered his way through this summer campaign season.

That’s pretty hard to dispute, in English.

Jeb speaking Spanish

But when answering questions in Spanish, Bush, a native English speaker, sometimes comes quite close to being a different man — or at least a somewhat different candidate. Note Trump’s, um, dismissive comments this week about Bush’s language skills. Trump told Breitbart News that Bush is “a nice man. But he should really set the example by speaking English while in the United States.”

There might be a reason Bush, the Spanish speaker, has The Donald’s attention. In Spanish, Bush seems deliberate about his word choice but clear about his own ideas. He’s less awkward, more inclined to display some wit and personality, to relate the personal to the political and to speak to the issues that effect many people’s day to day lives.

The article goes on to provide some compare and contrast videos of Jeb being dynamic in Spanish while being a big drip on the same topic in English.

That’s not surprising: Jeb speaks Spanish at home, and that’s the language in which he is most his true self.

Jeb Bush is transethnic the way Caitlyn Jenner is transgender and Rachel Dolezal is transracial.

I’m happy for Jeb that he found in a foreign country true love and a new culture and language in which he feels more manly and alive.

Being the way he is, it’s only natural that Jeb likes Mexicans more than he likes Americans. Naturally, Jeb wants to see the U.S. fill up with Mexicans.

But that doesn’t seem like a very good reason at all for Americans to elect Jeb their President.

As a bonus, here’s rare footage of an alpha male Jeb speaking Spanish:

Or as Jeb prefers to say, in Spanish he transitions into an “alfa macho.”

 
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  1. Maybe Jeb really is a different man in Spanish, sort of like Jack Donaghy’s telenovela doppelgänger on 30 Rock.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Dave Pinsen

    I'll use that.

  2. In Spanish, Bush seems deliberate about his word choice but clear about his own ideas. He’s less awkward, more inclined to display some wit and personality, to relate the personal to the political and to speak to the issues…

    As you’ve said before, ¡Yeb! will make a great president–of Mexico. Probably one of the best they’ve ever had. What’s he waiting for? Does he not like the idea of living there? Well, with each passing day, it’s getting more like there–here.


    Grammar note: WP hacks no longer know the difference between ‘effect’ and ‘affect’…

  3. I don’t have a problem with Jeb campaigning in Spanish. I do think it’s rude to go after another candidate in a language the other person doesn’t speak or understand.

    I’m more intrigued by the issue Steve brought up a few months ago, his wife possibly not speaking English.

    • Replies: @Veritas
    @Ed

    I don’t have a problem with Jeb campaigning in Spanish.

    I do.

    I think it demonstrates a profound disrespect to the historic American people and nation - whom Bushie is, putatively, a member of.

    He really should, permanently, relocate to Mexico, and fully join with the racist 'elites' of that country, who he is way more comfortable with than those in his ancestral land.

    *On second thought, he married Columba, so we can't be so sure that the wealthy Mexicans will fully accept him either.. What a conundrum for Yeb, yikes.

  4. @Dave Pinsen
    Maybe Jeb really is a different man in Spanish, sort of like Jack Donaghy's telenovela doppelgänger on 30 Rock.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    I’ll use that.

    • Agree: Dave Pinsen
  5. I have no love for Jeb at all, but attacking him for being fluent in a second language is bizarre. That’s normally something we should want in a presidential candidate–both because of its direct advantages (ability to talk with most Latin American leaders in their own language instead of using a translator) and because it suggests the guy is less of an empty suit than he otherwise appears to be.

    • Replies: @SFG
    @NOTA

    I actually agree, but if you think he has sympathies with another nation or culture, you don't elect him President. The President's supposed to be *your* guy.

    I suppose if it were, say, Uruguay, Belgium, or some similarly minor country whose interests don't really conflict with our own, that would be one thing, but Mexico shares a border and has quite a number of points of variance with us. The only way it would make sense would be if Mexico elected a president obsessed with American culture at the same time (which is never going to happen).

    , @GW
    @NOTA

    Oh come on use a little common sense.

    There is a difference between being fluent in a second language and campaigning in that second language as a way to hispander. Trump's (and others') critique(s) aren't that Jeb knows Spanish, it's that he campaigns in the language.

    , @Mr. Anon
    @NOTA

    It's fine for him to be fluent in a foreign language. It isn't okay for him to campaign in it. Campaigning in a foreign language is, in effect, appealing to another constituency and making promises to them in secret. English is the language of the United States of America. He should campaign in english.

    , @jimbojones
    @NOTA

    Come, now. The point here clearly isn't that Jeb is fluent in another language. The point is that he is campaigning in another language. A man can campaign in French in Canada. But in Spanish in the US?

    To me it looks like the Republican leadership has decided that the Republican party is doomed demogrpahically - unless fresh blood is found. The vast hordes of Hispanics - whom the Republican party's corporate backers like anyway, because Hispanics are obedient and cheap - look like a good target. Hence Jeb. But they are trying too hard.

    The other issue with Jeb's use of Spanish is that, as people have noted implicitly or explicitly, it makes him look like a p***y. He is the guy who married the exotic foreign chick (who for all we know just used him as a ticket to ride). He is the guy who adopted his wife's language rather than making her adopt his - despite her moving to his country. He is the guy who replies to Trump's direct insults by making backhanded comments in a foreign language. He is the white knight type who wants helpless and hapless foreigners to like him for his patronage and benevolence.

    Jeb is like a character from Mark Twain. And by all appearances he is a p***y. He is a 100% guaranteed loser for the Republicans. Let's see what they'll do.

    , @Hunsdon
    @NOTA

    Stuff and nonsense. As GW pointed out, the issue is not that he speaks Spanish. The issue is that he is only really himself when he speaks Spanish, and given the context of America 2015, that has implications for, oh, comprehensive immigration reform.

    Replies: @Sam Houston

    , @yaqub the mad scientist
    @NOTA

    I have no love for Jeb at all, but attacking him for being fluent in a second language is bizarre.

    You could get a column in Huff Po with that kind of analysis. You're pretty thick or dishonest if you read this column and think anyone, Trump included, is attacking him for being multilingual.

    That’s normally something we should want in a presidential candidate–both because of its direct advantages (ability to talk with most Latin American leaders in their own language instead of using a translator) and because it suggests the guy is less of an empty suit than he otherwise appears to be.


    I guess knowing the invader's language has some utility.

  6. @NOTA
    I have no love for Jeb at all, but attacking him for being fluent in a second language is bizarre. That's normally something we should want in a presidential candidate--both because of its direct advantages (ability to talk with most Latin American leaders in their own language instead of using a translator) and because it suggests the guy is less of an empty suit than he otherwise appears to be.

    Replies: @SFG, @GW, @Mr. Anon, @jimbojones, @Hunsdon, @yaqub the mad scientist

    I actually agree, but if you think he has sympathies with another nation or culture, you don’t elect him President. The President’s supposed to be *your* guy.

    I suppose if it were, say, Uruguay, Belgium, or some similarly minor country whose interests don’t really conflict with our own, that would be one thing, but Mexico shares a border and has quite a number of points of variance with us. The only way it would make sense would be if Mexico elected a president obsessed with American culture at the same time (which is never going to happen).

  7. “Being the way he is, it’s only natural that Jeb likes Mexicans more than he likes Americans. Naturally, Jeb wants to see the U.S. fill up with Mexicans”

    What a self-centered way to see the world. I´m half American half Brazilian, but I don’t want to see America turned into Brazil, nor Brasil turn into America. I worked in West Texas with plenty of Mexicans, probably the funniest ethnicity I know. They have many good people but I still don’t want America to turn into Mexico.

    Like Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn said, “Nations are the wealth of mankind”.

    Why get rid of America?

    Why does Bush want to transform the greatest country in the history of the world irreparably and forever? I truely hate Jeb Bush. Thank God Trump came in and rattled up this race, otherwise this tool would have been the GOP nominee.

    • Replies: @Chris Mallory
    @PistolPete


    Why does Bush want to transform the greatest country in the history of the world irreparably and forever?
     
    Because too many traditional Americans have ancestors who used to tar and feather tax collectors and we are on the edge of doing it again. Better to import hordes of peons who will bow and scrape before El Jefe.
  8. Maybe he should have lost the Jeb nickname some time back in his teens. Sounds somewhat retarded for an adult.

    BTW, what other languages are considered cool? I’m told that English remains cool here in Sweden. Are there any other “cool” languages? French?

    • Replies: @Bill B.
    @Tacitus2016

    Welsh.

    It's got everything:

    Complexity.
    Exclusivity.
    History.
    Strange slushing sounds.

    A million people actually speak it. Get in early before the big rush by Europeans to rediscover and strengthen their ethnic roots. Insult the rest of mankind with a smile.

  9. What do you call that mess of a language his brother spoke?

    Great 30 Rock reference, it also portrayed the moronic viewing habits of the immigrant.

  10. Slightly off topic…

    Steve, per your recommendation, I recently started marathon-ing episodes of 30 Rock on Netflix. Like you said, it’s absolutely hilarious, and chock full of heresies to The Narrative. How did the critics continue to just eat it up without being “triggered” or working “problematic” into every review?

    • Replies: @Lot
    @Gunnar von Cowtown


    How did the critics continue to just eat it up without being “triggered” or working “problematic” into every review?
     
    30 Rock predated the "triggering" going mainstream, but if you search for articles about how it is problematic, I am sure you'll find some results.

    It has some immunity because scolding spinster harpies really like Tina Fey, even though she's not one of them, because (1) she parodied their enemy Palin (2) had a successful and glam career in NYC (3) she still looks hot past 40.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

  11. Steve, Jeb is Dolezal in a far deeper way. His obsession with Mexico and being Hispanic started at a young age. He and Dolezal, and Shaun King for that matter, show how the nurture effect of mass media and the environment one grows up in is real.

    http://28sherman.blogspot.com/2015/09/jeb-bush-rachel-dolezal-shaun-king.html

  12. Presumably the transition to alphaness also translates into the bedroom. It gives a whole diferent meaning to ¡Yeb! now hinting at passion.

  13. @NOTA
    I have no love for Jeb at all, but attacking him for being fluent in a second language is bizarre. That's normally something we should want in a presidential candidate--both because of its direct advantages (ability to talk with most Latin American leaders in their own language instead of using a translator) and because it suggests the guy is less of an empty suit than he otherwise appears to be.

    Replies: @SFG, @GW, @Mr. Anon, @jimbojones, @Hunsdon, @yaqub the mad scientist

    Oh come on use a little common sense.

    There is a difference between being fluent in a second language and campaigning in that second language as a way to hispander. Trump’s (and others’) critique(s) aren’t that Jeb knows Spanish, it’s that he campaigns in the language.

  14. “Jeb Bush is transethnic the way Caitlyn Jenner is transgender and Rachel Dolezal is transracial.”

    I am a little confused by your mixed metaphors. Are you suggesting that Jeb!!! is like Caitlyn because he still retains his dick? Or are you suggesting that Jeb!!! is like Rachel, who presumably lacks one?

    BTW, in response to NOTA above, the reason that Trump is correct about speaking only English in the U.S. when you are running for office is so all the voters can hear what you’re saying in their still-predominant language. Otherwise, you get candidates like Jeb!!! saying something in Spanish (which I don’t understand) to one segment of the population and saying something different in English to another, unsuspecting segment of the population. I have heard instances of politicians running ads in Spanish which say just the opposite of their ads in English. Having heard his week-long, stumbling and bumbling explanation in English about what he thought of his dear brother’s Iraq War, I concluded that he was an idiot—and I didn’t have to have his remarks translated to arrive at that conclusion.

  15. @NOTA
    I have no love for Jeb at all, but attacking him for being fluent in a second language is bizarre. That's normally something we should want in a presidential candidate--both because of its direct advantages (ability to talk with most Latin American leaders in their own language instead of using a translator) and because it suggests the guy is less of an empty suit than he otherwise appears to be.

    Replies: @SFG, @GW, @Mr. Anon, @jimbojones, @Hunsdon, @yaqub the mad scientist

    It’s fine for him to be fluent in a foreign language. It isn’t okay for him to campaign in it. Campaigning in a foreign language is, in effect, appealing to another constituency and making promises to them in secret. English is the language of the United States of America. He should campaign in english.

  16. advancedatheist [AKA "RedneckCryonicist"] says:

    I’m happy for Jeb that he found in a foreign country true love and a new culture and language in which he feels more manly and alive.

    If only more Jews in the U.S. felt that way about the society created by Albion’s Children who have lived here for generations, along with our Germanic cousins who came over and got along with us well enough.

  17. Oddly, I understand how Spanish can do that.

    I used Spanish to satisfy my college’s foreign language requirement. (Easy and potentially useful, right?) I’ve always noticed that whenever I do speak Spanish, I take on the most baritone version of my voice. I become Fernando Llamas or Ricardo Montalban or somebody. I’m sure I sound ridiculous to a native speaker, but that’s what happens.

    “I don’t always speak Spanish, but when I do, I become that guy in the beer commercial.”

    Even The Most Interesting Man in the World sounds less interesting when he’s not pretending to be a Spaniard:

    • Replies: @D. K.
    @Buzz Mohawk

    From Wikipedia:

    ***

    Jonathan Goldsmith (born September 26, 1938) is an American actor. He began his career on the New York stage, then started a career in film and television. He appeared in several TV shows from the 1960s to the 1990s. He is best known for appearing in television commercials for Dos Equis beer, beginning in 2006, as the character The Most Interesting Man in the World, in which he speaks with an accent and a distinctive deep voice inspired by his deceased sailing partner and friend Fernando Lamas. [1]

    ***

    Yes, "The Most Interesting Man in the World" is (quite naturally) a native-born New York Jew.

    , @Salty
    @Buzz Mohawk

    I've noticed the same thing in French and Spanish. I don't think it's unique to Spanish, it's just a greater focus on your speech when you don't know the lingo. Although my GF complains that my feeble, infrequent Spanish attempts have a heavy Italian accent. I say that's because I speak two languages: murican and foriegn.

    , @MC
    @Buzz Mohawk

    Also, when you are speaking a foreign language, you become somewhat disembodied from the words you are speaking, and are thus able to speak more boldly, without fear of it coming back on you. I have said things to people in Spanish that I would never have mustered the nerve to say in English, because in English it would have felt too real and raw.

    , @Lot
    @Buzz Mohawk

    Spanish vowels are simpler than English's array of weak diphthongs and a higher percentage of them are back vowels that come out lower.

    So when you switch to Spanish you are used to saying the vowel sounds that carry over from English like "o" with force, but your weak english vowels like "let" don't get carried over.

    Spanish also puts emphasis on at least one vowel per word, e.g. "Nos vemos", while English can have a string of words that don't get any emphasis e.g. "Talk ta ya later."

  18. I think it’s the language, rather than being a Jeb thing. I’ve been told I have a lot more panache in Spanish than in English — which, sadly, is not saying much.

  19. @NOTA
    I have no love for Jeb at all, but attacking him for being fluent in a second language is bizarre. That's normally something we should want in a presidential candidate--both because of its direct advantages (ability to talk with most Latin American leaders in their own language instead of using a translator) and because it suggests the guy is less of an empty suit than he otherwise appears to be.

    Replies: @SFG, @GW, @Mr. Anon, @jimbojones, @Hunsdon, @yaqub the mad scientist

    Come, now. The point here clearly isn’t that Jeb is fluent in another language. The point is that he is campaigning in another language. A man can campaign in French in Canada. But in Spanish in the US?

    To me it looks like the Republican leadership has decided that the Republican party is doomed demogrpahically – unless fresh blood is found. The vast hordes of Hispanics – whom the Republican party’s corporate backers like anyway, because Hispanics are obedient and cheap – look like a good target. Hence Jeb. But they are trying too hard.

    The other issue with Jeb’s use of Spanish is that, as people have noted implicitly or explicitly, it makes him look like a p***y. He is the guy who married the exotic foreign chick (who for all we know just used him as a ticket to ride). He is the guy who adopted his wife’s language rather than making her adopt his – despite her moving to his country. He is the guy who replies to Trump’s direct insults by making backhanded comments in a foreign language. He is the white knight type who wants helpless and hapless foreigners to like him for his patronage and benevolence.

    Jeb is like a character from Mark Twain. And by all appearances he is a p***y. He is a 100% guaranteed loser for the Republicans. Let’s see what they’ll do.

  20. “Or as Jeb prefers to say, in Spanish he transitions into an “alfa macho.””

    More like an alfalfa muncho.

  21. This phenomenon reminds of the comic character Charisma Man. It was written by Western expatriates living in Japan mocking nerdy Western men who travel to Japan and are all of a sudden filled with unjustified self confidence. Charisma Man has one weakness – Western Women.

  22. @NOTA
    I have no love for Jeb at all, but attacking him for being fluent in a second language is bizarre. That's normally something we should want in a presidential candidate--both because of its direct advantages (ability to talk with most Latin American leaders in their own language instead of using a translator) and because it suggests the guy is less of an empty suit than he otherwise appears to be.

    Replies: @SFG, @GW, @Mr. Anon, @jimbojones, @Hunsdon, @yaqub the mad scientist

    Stuff and nonsense. As GW pointed out, the issue is not that he speaks Spanish. The issue is that he is only really himself when he speaks Spanish, and given the context of America 2015, that has implications for, oh, comprehensive immigration reform.

    • Replies: @Sam Houston
    @Hunsdon

    "the issue is not that he speaks Spanish. The issue is that he is only really himself when he speaks Spanish, and given the context of America 2015, that has implications for, oh, comprehensive immigration reform"

    Speaking Spanish while campaigning for President of the U.S.A. IS an issue all by itself. The fact that he only feels really himself while speaking a FOREIGN language just makes it even more.................PROBLEMATIC!

  23. I like how the make-up of the whole country now needs to be determined by the sexual fetishes of a few people. Your favorite athlete decides he wants to be a lady-boy? Government funded lady-boy sex change operations for everyone! You’re a white girl who love-love-LOVES the dark meat? Everyone get your hair permed and put on LOTS of artificial tanner. The establishment candidate for president loves the eating of the Mexican pussy*? Let’s import a hundred million Mexicans!

    Drugs and bitches and junkies and fags
    Artificial phonies, I hate it, hate it

    Death, death, death is the price I pay
    It’s a sick world, what can I say?
    No such thing as an even break
    They steal, they cheat, they take, take, take

    Drugs and bitches and commies and queers
    Artificial phonies, I hate it, hate it

    * How do I know that? Well, we are what we eat….

    • Replies: @advancedatheist
    @Gato de la Biblioteca

    You forgot to mention Stanley Ann Dunham's fetishes for black Africans and Indonesians.

    Replies: @Gato de la Biblioteca

  24. How can anybody like this guy:

  25. Jeb Bush, quite understandably, feels inferior when addressing an audience of middle-class Whites, but when addressing a gaggle of unlettered peasant laborers from the Third World, he doesn’t have that problem, and can imagine himself a True Leader of Men. Despite the fact he probably couldn’t successfully manage a convenience store.

    *Obviously, not all Hispanics are unlettered peasants…but Jeb probably prefers to think of them that way, regardless.

    • Replies: @Gato de la Biblioteca
    @Kevin O'Keeffe

    Despite the fact he probably couldn’t successfully manage a convenience store.

    Much as I loathe Jeb!, I have to disagree with this. He was a fine governor of Florida, and I'd vote for him in that capacity again. I know many here in Florida feel the same. But they're different jobs, and I don't trust another Bush, and I don't trust open borders candidates.

    The job Jeb! did during the 2004 hurricane season, when Florida got hit by four major storms in six weeks, was quite good. He was everywhere, and in charge. You don't hear anyone nationally making a big deal out of the four strikes on Florida, but you hear lots about the hurricane that brushed NOLA the following season. Jeb! played a part in that, and deserves credit for that, at least.

    Replies: @tbraton

  26. Like McCarthurez said…

    Volveré

    Maybe Newsweek can run a cover of Jeb as generalissimo with the same headline about GOP gringos being old and finished.

  27. @Buzz Mohawk
    Oddly, I understand how Spanish can do that.

    I used Spanish to satisfy my college's foreign language requirement. (Easy and potentially useful, right?) I've always noticed that whenever I do speak Spanish, I take on the most baritone version of my voice. I become Fernando Llamas or Ricardo Montalban or somebody. I'm sure I sound ridiculous to a native speaker, but that's what happens.

    "I don't always speak Spanish, but when I do, I become that guy in the beer commercial."

    Even The Most Interesting Man in the World sounds less interesting when he's not pretending to be a Spaniard:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gPeEodwMfQo

    Replies: @D. K., @Salty, @MC, @Lot

    From Wikipedia:

    ***

    Jonathan Goldsmith (born September 26, 1938) is an American actor. He began his career on the New York stage, then started a career in film and television. He appeared in several TV shows from the 1960s to the 1990s. He is best known for appearing in television commercials for Dos Equis beer, beginning in 2006, as the character The Most Interesting Man in the World, in which he speaks with an accent and a distinctive deep voice inspired by his deceased sailing partner and friend Fernando Lamas. [1]

    ***

    Yes, “The Most Interesting Man in the World” is (quite naturally) a native-born New York Jew.

  28. @Buzz Mohawk
    Oddly, I understand how Spanish can do that.

    I used Spanish to satisfy my college's foreign language requirement. (Easy and potentially useful, right?) I've always noticed that whenever I do speak Spanish, I take on the most baritone version of my voice. I become Fernando Llamas or Ricardo Montalban or somebody. I'm sure I sound ridiculous to a native speaker, but that's what happens.

    "I don't always speak Spanish, but when I do, I become that guy in the beer commercial."

    Even The Most Interesting Man in the World sounds less interesting when he's not pretending to be a Spaniard:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gPeEodwMfQo

    Replies: @D. K., @Salty, @MC, @Lot

    I’ve noticed the same thing in French and Spanish. I don’t think it’s unique to Spanish, it’s just a greater focus on your speech when you don’t know the lingo. Although my GF complains that my feeble, infrequent Spanish attempts have a heavy Italian accent. I say that’s because I speak two languages: murican and foriegn.

  29. advancedatheist [AKA "RedneckCryonicist"] says:
    @Gato de la Biblioteca
    I like how the make-up of the whole country now needs to be determined by the sexual fetishes of a few people. Your favorite athlete decides he wants to be a lady-boy? Government funded lady-boy sex change operations for everyone! You're a white girl who love-love-LOVES the dark meat? Everyone get your hair permed and put on LOTS of artificial tanner. The establishment candidate for president loves the eating of the Mexican pussy*? Let's import a hundred million Mexicans!

    Drugs and bitches and junkies and fags
    Artificial phonies, I hate it, hate it

    Death, death, death is the price I pay
    It's a sick world, what can I say?
    No such thing as an even break
    They steal, they cheat, they take, take, take

    Drugs and bitches and commies and queers
    Artificial phonies, I hate it, hate it

    * How do I know that? Well, we are what we eat....

    Replies: @advancedatheist

    You forgot to mention Stanley Ann Dunham’s fetishes for black Africans and Indonesians.

    • Replies: @Gato de la Biblioteca
    @advancedatheist

    Completely slipped my mind. Thank you for the correction.

  30. @Kevin O'Keeffe
    Jeb Bush, quite understandably, feels inferior when addressing an audience of middle-class Whites, but when addressing a gaggle of unlettered peasant laborers from the Third World, he doesn't have that problem, and can imagine himself a True Leader of Men. Despite the fact he probably couldn't successfully manage a convenience store.

    *Obviously, not all Hispanics are unlettered peasants...but Jeb probably prefers to think of them that way, regardless.

    Replies: @Gato de la Biblioteca

    Despite the fact he probably couldn’t successfully manage a convenience store.

    Much as I loathe Jeb!, I have to disagree with this. He was a fine governor of Florida, and I’d vote for him in that capacity again. I know many here in Florida feel the same. But they’re different jobs, and I don’t trust another Bush, and I don’t trust open borders candidates.

    The job Jeb! did during the 2004 hurricane season, when Florida got hit by four major storms in six weeks, was quite good. He was everywhere, and in charge. You don’t hear anyone nationally making a big deal out of the four strikes on Florida, but you hear lots about the hurricane that brushed NOLA the following season. Jeb! played a part in that, and deserves credit for that, at least.

    • Replies: @tbraton
    @Gato de la Biblioteca

    As I have noted numerous times, I voted for Jeb!!! three times and generally thought he was a pretty good governor, until the Terri Schiavo incident, which he succeeded in staying out of until after he won reelection in 2002. That matter, involving a certifiable brain dead woman (as the autopsy conclusively confirmed) was best left to the state courts, which were doing a good job of resolving the dispute. He not only succeeded in getting the state legislature unnecessarily involved, he got his smarter/dumber (take a pick or flip a coin) brother who was President of the U.S. and the U.S. Congress involved in a vain attempt to overturn the local court decision. I believe polls after that mess showed that Floridians overwhelmingly gave him poor marks for his performance in the Schiavo matter. He exercised very poor political judgment in my opinion, and I swore after that ridiculous episode that I would never vote for him again even as governor. The realization that he was indeed a stupid man did not become apparent to me until he started running for President earlier this year. I voted for his brother George W. even though it was apparent to anyone watching the debates in 2000 and 1999 that he was not the sharpest blade in the drawer, but, because I held his father in relatively high esteem, I gave him the benefit of the doubt and mistakenly assumed that his father would have more influence on his thinking. Boy, was I wrong! No more benefit of the doubt for anyone related to George H.W. Bush. Incidentally, Jeb!!! and George W. are related on their mother's side (nee Barbara Pierce) to former President Franklin Pierce, considered one of the worst Presidents in U.S. history.

    Replies: @Kevin O'Keeffe

  31. @Buzz Mohawk
    Oddly, I understand how Spanish can do that.

    I used Spanish to satisfy my college's foreign language requirement. (Easy and potentially useful, right?) I've always noticed that whenever I do speak Spanish, I take on the most baritone version of my voice. I become Fernando Llamas or Ricardo Montalban or somebody. I'm sure I sound ridiculous to a native speaker, but that's what happens.

    "I don't always speak Spanish, but when I do, I become that guy in the beer commercial."

    Even The Most Interesting Man in the World sounds less interesting when he's not pretending to be a Spaniard:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gPeEodwMfQo

    Replies: @D. K., @Salty, @MC, @Lot

    Also, when you are speaking a foreign language, you become somewhat disembodied from the words you are speaking, and are thus able to speak more boldly, without fear of it coming back on you. I have said things to people in Spanish that I would never have mustered the nerve to say in English, because in English it would have felt too real and raw.

  32. Steve, do you have a picture of you wearing a sombrero? I think you would look rather dashing with one! Please show your loyal fans a picture soon.
    Thank you.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Sailer has an interesting life

    http://www.horaceronl.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/nl-219-5.jpg

    Replies: @tbraton

  33. @PistolPete
    "Being the way he is, it’s only natural that Jeb likes Mexicans more than he likes Americans. Naturally, Jeb wants to see the U.S. fill up with Mexicans"

    What a self-centered way to see the world. I´m half American half Brazilian, but I don't want to see America turned into Brazil, nor Brasil turn into America. I worked in West Texas with plenty of Mexicans, probably the funniest ethnicity I know. They have many good people but I still don't want America to turn into Mexico.

    Like Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn said, "Nations are the wealth of mankind".

    Why get rid of America?

    Why does Bush want to transform the greatest country in the history of the world irreparably and forever? I truely hate Jeb Bush. Thank God Trump came in and rattled up this race, otherwise this tool would have been the GOP nominee.

    Replies: @Chris Mallory

    Why does Bush want to transform the greatest country in the history of the world irreparably and forever?

    Because too many traditional Americans have ancestors who used to tar and feather tax collectors and we are on the edge of doing it again. Better to import hordes of peons who will bow and scrape before El Jefe.

  34. @Gunnar von Cowtown
    Slightly off topic...

    Steve, per your recommendation, I recently started marathon-ing episodes of 30 Rock on Netflix. Like you said, it's absolutely hilarious, and chock full of heresies to The Narrative. How did the critics continue to just eat it up without being "triggered" or working "problematic" into every review?

    Replies: @Lot

    How did the critics continue to just eat it up without being “triggered” or working “problematic” into every review?

    30 Rock predated the “triggering” going mainstream, but if you search for articles about how it is problematic, I am sure you’ll find some results.

    It has some immunity because scolding spinster harpies really like Tina Fey, even though she’s not one of them, because (1) she parodied their enemy Palin (2) had a successful and glam career in NYC (3) she still looks hot past 40.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Lot

    Many of Saturday Night Live's writers and performers have typically been well to the right of what is assumed by the naive SJWs, who often fail to get the joke. "30 Rock" is perhaps the most brilliant movie or show to emerge out of the SNL culture and a huge fraction of its jokes were at the expense of various sacred cows of the left.

  35. @Buzz Mohawk
    Oddly, I understand how Spanish can do that.

    I used Spanish to satisfy my college's foreign language requirement. (Easy and potentially useful, right?) I've always noticed that whenever I do speak Spanish, I take on the most baritone version of my voice. I become Fernando Llamas or Ricardo Montalban or somebody. I'm sure I sound ridiculous to a native speaker, but that's what happens.

    "I don't always speak Spanish, but when I do, I become that guy in the beer commercial."

    Even The Most Interesting Man in the World sounds less interesting when he's not pretending to be a Spaniard:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gPeEodwMfQo

    Replies: @D. K., @Salty, @MC, @Lot

    Spanish vowels are simpler than English’s array of weak diphthongs and a higher percentage of them are back vowels that come out lower.

    So when you switch to Spanish you are used to saying the vowel sounds that carry over from English like “o” with force, but your weak english vowels like “let” don’t get carried over.

    Spanish also puts emphasis on at least one vowel per word, e.g. “Nos vemos”, while English can have a string of words that don’t get any emphasis e.g. “Talk ta ya later.”

  36. Rather than endorse potato chips, Jeb got paid $10+ million to endorse failed Lehman Brothers financial instruments.

    I assume he focused on selling them to South American kleptocrats.

  37. anon • Disclaimer says:

    I’ve been married 17 years to a Japanese lady, have lived there, etc. I speak kitchen Japanese at best, though the sprogs are fluent. We have a rule around the house that english is the default language.

    My wife makes the observation, which I’ve not infrequently heard from other Japanese women, that foreign guys speaking Japanese sounds effeminate. I wonder if there is any trend like this among Spanish-speaking populations.

    • Replies: @Bill B.
    @anon

    The old joke in Asia was that expat businessmen who attempted to learn a bit of Japanese often sounded by ladyboys because they learnt from bar girls. Causing much private joy in the ranks of their Japanese interlocutors.

    Japanese I understate being a very status rich language.

    Replies: @Anonym

  38. @NOTA
    I have no love for Jeb at all, but attacking him for being fluent in a second language is bizarre. That's normally something we should want in a presidential candidate--both because of its direct advantages (ability to talk with most Latin American leaders in their own language instead of using a translator) and because it suggests the guy is less of an empty suit than he otherwise appears to be.

    Replies: @SFG, @GW, @Mr. Anon, @jimbojones, @Hunsdon, @yaqub the mad scientist

    I have no love for Jeb at all, but attacking him for being fluent in a second language is bizarre.

    You could get a column in Huff Po with that kind of analysis. You’re pretty thick or dishonest if you read this column and think anyone, Trump included, is attacking him for being multilingual.

    That’s normally something we should want in a presidential candidate–both because of its direct advantages (ability to talk with most Latin American leaders in their own language instead of using a translator) and because it suggests the guy is less of an empty suit than he otherwise appears to be.

    I guess knowing the invader’s language has some utility.

  39. Ladies and Gentlemen the next President of the Estados Unidos Mexicanos: Jeb Bush!

    That would be a refreshing change of pace. For once we would send Mexico one of

    OUR losers!

  40. @Hunsdon
    @NOTA

    Stuff and nonsense. As GW pointed out, the issue is not that he speaks Spanish. The issue is that he is only really himself when he speaks Spanish, and given the context of America 2015, that has implications for, oh, comprehensive immigration reform.

    Replies: @Sam Houston

    “the issue is not that he speaks Spanish. The issue is that he is only really himself when he speaks Spanish, and given the context of America 2015, that has implications for, oh, comprehensive immigration reform”

    Speaking Spanish while campaigning for President of the U.S.A. IS an issue all by itself. The fact that he only feels really himself while speaking a FOREIGN language just makes it even more……………..PROBLEMATIC!

  41. @Sailer has an interesting life
    Steve, do you have a picture of you wearing a sombrero? I think you would look rather dashing with one! Please show your loyal fans a picture soon.
    Thank you.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    • Replies: @tbraton
    @Steve Sailer

    There are three men in the picture wearing sombreros. Which one are you? I never thought I would say this, but you look much better in that Santa Claus getup.

  42. I want to wish you a merry amnesty and open borders from the bottom of my heart. Feliz navi Jeb, feliz navi Jeb.

  43. @Steve Sailer
    @Sailer has an interesting life

    http://www.horaceronl.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/nl-219-5.jpg

    Replies: @tbraton

    There are three men in the picture wearing sombreros. Which one are you? I never thought I would say this, but you look much better in that Santa Claus getup.

  44. @Lot
    @Gunnar von Cowtown


    How did the critics continue to just eat it up without being “triggered” or working “problematic” into every review?
     
    30 Rock predated the "triggering" going mainstream, but if you search for articles about how it is problematic, I am sure you'll find some results.

    It has some immunity because scolding spinster harpies really like Tina Fey, even though she's not one of them, because (1) she parodied their enemy Palin (2) had a successful and glam career in NYC (3) she still looks hot past 40.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    Many of Saturday Night Live’s writers and performers have typically been well to the right of what is assumed by the naive SJWs, who often fail to get the joke. “30 Rock” is perhaps the most brilliant movie or show to emerge out of the SNL culture and a huge fraction of its jokes were at the expense of various sacred cows of the left.

  45. I have no love for Jeb at all, but attacking him for being fluent in a second language would be bizarre.

    FIFY.

  46. Part of it is that the contemporary general American accent has become more effeminate sounding, with uptalking.

    Trump has the older NYC Queens accent which has been insulated from these trends.

    • Replies: @oh its just me
    @Anonymous

    There is an old new york wasp/anglo accent that still sounds new york but not jewish, irish or italian...
    norman rockwell had it, as did, i think the late sam huntington,.. some of my family had it.... i am (much) younger than trump but i remember a queens that still had anglo neighborhoods ...

  47. @Gato de la Biblioteca
    @Kevin O'Keeffe

    Despite the fact he probably couldn’t successfully manage a convenience store.

    Much as I loathe Jeb!, I have to disagree with this. He was a fine governor of Florida, and I'd vote for him in that capacity again. I know many here in Florida feel the same. But they're different jobs, and I don't trust another Bush, and I don't trust open borders candidates.

    The job Jeb! did during the 2004 hurricane season, when Florida got hit by four major storms in six weeks, was quite good. He was everywhere, and in charge. You don't hear anyone nationally making a big deal out of the four strikes on Florida, but you hear lots about the hurricane that brushed NOLA the following season. Jeb! played a part in that, and deserves credit for that, at least.

    Replies: @tbraton

    As I have noted numerous times, I voted for Jeb!!! three times and generally thought he was a pretty good governor, until the Terri Schiavo incident, which he succeeded in staying out of until after he won reelection in 2002. That matter, involving a certifiable brain dead woman (as the autopsy conclusively confirmed) was best left to the state courts, which were doing a good job of resolving the dispute. He not only succeeded in getting the state legislature unnecessarily involved, he got his smarter/dumber (take a pick or flip a coin) brother who was President of the U.S. and the U.S. Congress involved in a vain attempt to overturn the local court decision. I believe polls after that mess showed that Floridians overwhelmingly gave him poor marks for his performance in the Schiavo matter. He exercised very poor political judgment in my opinion, and I swore after that ridiculous episode that I would never vote for him again even as governor. The realization that he was indeed a stupid man did not become apparent to me until he started running for President earlier this year. I voted for his brother George W. even though it was apparent to anyone watching the debates in 2000 and 1999 that he was not the sharpest blade in the drawer, but, because I held his father in relatively high esteem, I gave him the benefit of the doubt and mistakenly assumed that his father would have more influence on his thinking. Boy, was I wrong! No more benefit of the doubt for anyone related to George H.W. Bush. Incidentally, Jeb!!! and George W. are related on their mother’s side (nee Barbara Pierce) to former President Franklin Pierce, considered one of the worst Presidents in U.S. history.

    • Replies: @Kevin O'Keeffe
    @tbraton

    " Incidentally, Jeb!!! and George W. are related on their mother’s side (nee Barbara Pierce) to former President Franklin Pierce, considered one of the worst Presidents in U.S. history."

    Considered one of the worst Presidents in U.S. history...according to the keepers of the Narrative. Many patriotic Americans might tend to have a different opinion about Pierce, although its probably for the best that his plan to annex Cuba never came to fruition. Lincoln had Pierce kept under house arrest in New Hampshire, because Pierce spoke out in favor of Confederate independence, and was otherwise a so-called "Doughface" ie., a Northern man (usually a Democrat, such as Pierce, but occasionally a Whig) of Southern principles. Basically, he's regarded as a terrible President because liberals don't like him, and they're the ones who get to make these designations within our society.

  48. @Tacitus2016
    Maybe he should have lost the Jeb nickname some time back in his teens. Sounds somewhat retarded for an adult.

    BTW, what other languages are considered cool? I'm told that English remains cool here in Sweden. Are there any other "cool" languages? French?

    Replies: @Bill B.

    Welsh.

    It’s got everything:

    Complexity.
    Exclusivity.
    History.
    Strange slushing sounds.

    A million people actually speak it. Get in early before the big rush by Europeans to rediscover and strengthen their ethnic roots. Insult the rest of mankind with a smile.

  49. @anon
    I've been married 17 years to a Japanese lady, have lived there, etc. I speak kitchen Japanese at best, though the sprogs are fluent. We have a rule around the house that english is the default language.

    My wife makes the observation, which I've not infrequently heard from other Japanese women, that foreign guys speaking Japanese sounds effeminate. I wonder if there is any trend like this among Spanish-speaking populations.

    Replies: @Bill B.

    The old joke in Asia was that expat businessmen who attempted to learn a bit of Japanese often sounded by ladyboys because they learnt from bar girls. Causing much private joy in the ranks of their Japanese interlocutors.

    Japanese I understate being a very status rich language.

    • Replies: @Anonym
    @Bill B.

    I was just going to say something like this - foreign men are almost all going to learn Japanese from Japanese women, so they end up sounding like them. The words that are used will vary depending on whether you are male or female and where you are in the social pecking order. Women use the more deferential word variants.

  50. @Anonymous
    Part of it is that the contemporary general American accent has become more effeminate sounding, with uptalking.

    Trump has the older NYC Queens accent which has been insulated from these trends.

    Replies: @oh its just me

    There is an old new york wasp/anglo accent that still sounds new york but not jewish, irish or italian…
    norman rockwell had it, as did, i think the late sam huntington,.. some of my family had it…. i am (much) younger than trump but i remember a queens that still had anglo neighborhoods …

  51. @advancedatheist
    @Gato de la Biblioteca

    You forgot to mention Stanley Ann Dunham's fetishes for black Africans and Indonesians.

    Replies: @Gato de la Biblioteca

    Completely slipped my mind. Thank you for the correction.

  52. @tbraton
    @Gato de la Biblioteca

    As I have noted numerous times, I voted for Jeb!!! three times and generally thought he was a pretty good governor, until the Terri Schiavo incident, which he succeeded in staying out of until after he won reelection in 2002. That matter, involving a certifiable brain dead woman (as the autopsy conclusively confirmed) was best left to the state courts, which were doing a good job of resolving the dispute. He not only succeeded in getting the state legislature unnecessarily involved, he got his smarter/dumber (take a pick or flip a coin) brother who was President of the U.S. and the U.S. Congress involved in a vain attempt to overturn the local court decision. I believe polls after that mess showed that Floridians overwhelmingly gave him poor marks for his performance in the Schiavo matter. He exercised very poor political judgment in my opinion, and I swore after that ridiculous episode that I would never vote for him again even as governor. The realization that he was indeed a stupid man did not become apparent to me until he started running for President earlier this year. I voted for his brother George W. even though it was apparent to anyone watching the debates in 2000 and 1999 that he was not the sharpest blade in the drawer, but, because I held his father in relatively high esteem, I gave him the benefit of the doubt and mistakenly assumed that his father would have more influence on his thinking. Boy, was I wrong! No more benefit of the doubt for anyone related to George H.W. Bush. Incidentally, Jeb!!! and George W. are related on their mother's side (nee Barbara Pierce) to former President Franklin Pierce, considered one of the worst Presidents in U.S. history.

    Replies: @Kevin O'Keeffe

    ” Incidentally, Jeb!!! and George W. are related on their mother’s side (nee Barbara Pierce) to former President Franklin Pierce, considered one of the worst Presidents in U.S. history.”

    Considered one of the worst Presidents in U.S. history…according to the keepers of the Narrative. Many patriotic Americans might tend to have a different opinion about Pierce, although its probably for the best that his plan to annex Cuba never came to fruition. Lincoln had Pierce kept under house arrest in New Hampshire, because Pierce spoke out in favor of Confederate independence, and was otherwise a so-called “Doughface” ie., a Northern man (usually a Democrat, such as Pierce, but occasionally a Whig) of Southern principles. Basically, he’s regarded as a terrible President because liberals don’t like him, and they’re the ones who get to make these designations within our society.

  53. @Bill B.
    @anon

    The old joke in Asia was that expat businessmen who attempted to learn a bit of Japanese often sounded by ladyboys because they learnt from bar girls. Causing much private joy in the ranks of their Japanese interlocutors.

    Japanese I understate being a very status rich language.

    Replies: @Anonym

    I was just going to say something like this – foreign men are almost all going to learn Japanese from Japanese women, so they end up sounding like them. The words that are used will vary depending on whether you are male or female and where you are in the social pecking order. Women use the more deferential word variants.

  54. I speak good Spanish (blind Mexicans think I am Mexican…or anyways I am fast and I have a lifelike street-level Mexican accent)…in any event I am qualified to judge Jeb’s Spanish you betcha…having heard a few utterances

    Jeb’s accent is good, nothing cringeworthy…he does something distasteful with the tone/emotional range of Spanish, I lack the term-of-art, he has a bland too-good-to-kick style SIMILAR TO HOW MISTER ROGERS was kind of icky in English…the last time
    I heard Jeb in Spanish he broke character to utter the English word “record” when there were several obvious normal Spanish words that would occur to most speakers to complete the sense of his sentence…he ain’t Borges, he is not a particularly mellifluous nightingale except compared to other American politicians who have BAD ACCENTS…

  55. @Ed
    I don't have a problem with Jeb campaigning in Spanish. I do think it's rude to go after another candidate in a language the other person doesn't speak or understand.

    I'm more intrigued by the issue Steve brought up a few months ago, his wife possibly not speaking English.

    Replies: @Veritas

    I don’t have a problem with Jeb campaigning in Spanish.

    I do.

    I think it demonstrates a profound disrespect to the historic American people and nation – whom Bushie is, putatively, a member of.

    He really should, permanently, relocate to Mexico, and fully join with the racist ‘elites’ of that country, who he is way more comfortable with than those in his ancestral land.

    *On second thought, he married Columba, so we can’t be so sure that the wealthy Mexicans will fully accept him either.. What a conundrum for Yeb, yikes.

  56. I guess it is only the way English speakers hear his Spanish. Spanish is a language with a lower pitch, with a slower pace, with clearly pronounced vowels. This gives the impression of being more alpha male for people used to hear English (it’s “macho alfa” because, in Spanish, the adjective usually follows the noun).

    Being a native Spanish speaker, he sounds somewhat off. There’s something weird in his Spanish. Of course, he has a bit of an English accent, but there is something more, which I cannot put the finger on.

    He doesn’t sound very “macho” for Spanish speakers.

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