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“Who? Whom?” you ask?

It’s all rather confusing. Why do you want to know, anyway?

Well, like it says, the Who is the National Thowheed Jama’ath.

What’s that? You’ve never heard of them? Like it says, they are a local extremist group.

What kind of extremists? They are militants: mil…i.tants. Just like the headlines say.

And who are the Whom? Well, they are the 290. Why do you want anymore specifics?

Update: The Washington Post now appears to have been shamed by its derisive commenters into making its headline more informative:

Still no mention of the C Word (“Christians”) in describing who, exactly, were the victims.

 
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  1. They cannot get themselves to come out and say it right, just as people here cannot get themselves to call the place by its real name, Ceylon. Sri Lanka sounds completely gay. It’s Ceylon, Ceylon, Sailer.

    (Sorry, perhaps this is not time for joking, but my inner Reg Caesar came out.)

  2. All the news that’s fit to print – in our Easterly times of the miracles and wonder. – Only heretics (and perverts) would want to know more.

    • Replies: @Desiderius
  3. Jaypo says:

    The whom according to Hilary and Obama are Easter worshippers. Who would have thought that the cult of Eostre had reached Sri Lanka?

  4. Jaypo says:

    The Whom are the cult of Eostre according to Hilary and Obama.

  5. Anonymous[411] • Disclaimer says:

    Compare NYTimes.com top headline:

    Radical Islamist Group Blamed in Sri Lanka Bombings

    • Replies: @SMK
  6. wesmouch says:

    A “militant” likely named Mohammed. Nothing to see here.

  7. unit472 says:

    Telegraph just said NJT – in the last paragraph- in its initial reports on the bombings. Of course when the targets were churches on Easter Sunday and luxury hotels with plenty of Western tourists you realize it wasn’t ‘just some people doing some things’.

    Worse still, I read of some Canadian judge sentencing a negro motorist who ran over and killed a man, fled and tried to conceal his guilt by repairing the damage to his vehicle, being sentenced to 100 hours of community service, because he feared police ‘racism’ had he stayed at the scene and rendered assistance to his victim!

    This political correctness has morphed into insanity and people who believe it trumps felony manslaughter or mass murder have no more business holding any kind of official position than a delusional schizophrenic.

    • Agree: bomag
    • Replies: @Bucky
    , @anonymous
  8. @Dieter Kief

    Democracy dies in darkness.

    • LOL: Digital Samizdat
    • Replies: @Jake
    , @res
  9. KL says:

    The victims were Easter Worshipers.

  10. Bill P says:

    Looks like our ruling class is starting to get nervous. They didn’t used to worry so much about provoking Christians. I wonder what’s changed? I’m really not sure, but maybe they’ve started to realize that this is serious business that they might not be able to handle this time.

    I should dust off my French and read what the Français de souche are saying about Notre Dame’s mysterious conflagration.

    • Replies: @notanon
  11. I thought they might have been “teens.”

    • Replies: @Kylie
  12. Anonymous[348] • Disclaimer says:

    Obviously the mainstream press has been a propaganda organ now for a lomg time. However, by a stubborn refusal to provide any semblance of a public forum for discussion of serious and growing issues such as the nature of Islam, racial reality and the ethnic interests of white people, what becomes the only outlet for members of the public who correctly perceive the nature of a problem (like Thomas Jefferson once did with Islam)? I don’t think it is going to be pretty.

  13. ChrisZ says:

    The media’s “delicacy” in these situations is contemptible, of course. And galling. But who is being fooled by these verbal antics any more?

    It seems to me that it’s primarily aimed at the Post’s already-convinced readership: to buck up morale, reassure the faithful, and otherwise keep the cocoon of approved opinion clear of debris.

    It’s pathetic, really, how needy our elites are to have their egos stroked and coddled in this way. I noticed it personally during the burning of Notre Dame, when liberal friends couldn’t even express dismay without dutifully reporting the “it looks like it was an accident”—this while the fire was still raging. Faith in the Narrative must require perpetual affirmation.

    • Replies: @bomag
    , @notanon
  14. Danish billionaire Anders Holch Povlsen (who owns Bestseller and is the biggest shareholder in Asos) lost three children in this attack. With a fortune of about $6.5 billion, he is the richest victim of an Islamist attack I can recall. Will his loss lead to a shift in the Danish conversation? Or in the EU in general?

    May God give him, his wife and the rest of his family the strength to endure.

  15. Gordo says:

    They will have to keep switching modulation as we adapt quickly.

    Youth = black
    No description = non-White
    No description plus no name = muslim

    • Agree: San Fernando Curt
  16. Bullet point:

    Sri Lanka blocks social media in attempt to stop spread of misinformation

    Good thing. Wouldn’t want the citizenry getting all riled up about who might actually be making war on Christians.

    Might contradict the Blank Slates carried down the mountain by Moses.

    • Replies: @Cagey Beast
    , @jb
    , @Desiderius
  17. bomag says:

    Wiki says the group was criticized in the past for indoctrinating children; clashing with traditional religious leaders; and vandalizing statues.

    Sounds like they were off to a good start by SJW standards.

  18. Seneca44 says:

    Wa Po has finally updated its headline to include “Islamist”. Pretty dull, pointless article, but the comments by the readers are becoming more entertaining. Even in the DC metro area, they can’t push the narrative but so far.

  19. @Buzz Mohawk

    At least in countries like Sri Lanka, the government has good cause to worry about a retaliatory massacre. “Our” governments and media hide information from the White majority out of fear of a backlash that rarely, if ever happens. The White population is as inert as a giant block of tofu but the media and politicians act like we’ll carry out a pogrom if we find out the guy who stabbed a White guy at the bus stop was Black.

    • Agree: Buffalo Joe
  20. jb says:
    @Buzz Mohawk

    I doubt the Sri Lankan government cares much about Blank Slate ideology. And the Washington Post seems to have gotten its act together — the lead paragraph in their current version of the story reads:

    Sri Lanka on Monday accused a local Islamist extremist group, the National Thowheed Jamaath, of being behind a string of Easter bombings against churches and hotels that killed at least 290 people.

  21. Jake says:
    @Desiderius

    As Plato knew, democracy always is a con game played best by the best conmen. What took so long for that to become obvious in the US is the huge frontier, which allowed men with guts and brains to achieve great things. That achieving, in turn, meant that the bast majority of white people could imagine that the northeastern Elite, the true WASP Elite, was angling to own it all from no later than the waning days of the Revolution and was more than willing to use any people as tools and weapons (blacks) or as allies (Jews in the 20th century) to arrange things so that they mirrored the UK under WASPs: the vast majority of white Christians/Gentiles would be stuck, would have very little or no recourse, would be a class of underlings meant to remain that way.

    That pattern of WASP rule has now been made Global.

    • Replies: @bomag
  22. Jaypo says:

    Thinking about this some more. It seems that the Who are Friday worshippers.

  23. @Cagey Beast

    Imagine living in a country that has not only welcomed you, but allowed you to attain unimaginable heights of wealth, prestige, and influence, all at expense to itself, and your constant thought about your ostensible Fellow Citizens is, “They’re gonna put us in camps! They’re gonna put us in CAAAAAMPS!”

    Like they say, the guilty flee when none pursue.

    • Replies: @notanon
  24. Tiny Duck says:

    99% of violence and evil is perpetrated by white male christians.

    Muslims lash out at evil and unfair treatment

    You guys are a hateful minority and will be deplatformed soon

    Get over it

  25. Thirdtwin says:

    psssst…The phrase is “Easter worshippers”. Pass it on.

    • Replies: @Alden
  26. BB753 says:
    @Change that Matters

    Let’s hope he doesn’t cuck out like Amy Biehl’s father and forgive their murderers, washing their feet with tears of forgiveness.

  27. El Dato says:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Not really.

    From Jimbo’s fountain of immediate knollij:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Names_of_Sri_Lanka

    The name Ceylon has a complicated history going back to antiquity. One theory is that it derives from the Old-Tamil word Cerentivu which means literally “Island of Cheras”, a Tamil term for nagas meaning “hill”. Another theory is the name derives from the Sanskrit Siṃhaladvīpaḥ (Siṃhalaḥ, Sri Lanka + dvīpaḥ, island). The island was known by the Romans as Serendivis and by Arabs as Serandib and the Persians as Serendip; the word serendipity is derived from this word. From this, the Greeks called the island Sielen Diva. From the word Sielen, many European forms were derived: Latin Seelan, Portuguese Ceilão, Spanish Ceilán, French Selon, Ceylan, Dutch Zeilan, Ceilan and Seylon, and of course the English Ceylon. Ptolemy called the Island Salike, and the inhabitants Salai.

    And also, under “Taprobana”:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taprobana

    Reports of the island’s existence were known before the time of Alexander the Great as inferred from Pliny. The treatise De Mundo (supposedly by Aristotle (died 322 BC) but according to others by Chrysippus the Stoic (280 to 208 BC) incorrectly states that the island is as large as Great Britain. The name was first reported to Europeans by the Greek geographer Megasthenes around 290 BC. Herodotus (444 BC) does not mention the island. The first Geography in which it appears is that of Eratosthenes (276 to 196 BC) and was later adopted by Ptolemy (139 AD) in his geographical treatise to identify a relatively large island south of continental Asia.

    Taprobana may be the Greek rendition of Tamraparni or Tambapanni, meaning “copper-colored,” the color of the sand along the north-western coast of Sri Lanka where the Pali epic poem known as the Mahawamsa claims that a ship-wrecked Indian prince named “Vijaya” and his company landed. According to the Pali chronicle, on touching the soil, their palms became copper coloured. G.U.Pope, in his book “Textbook of Indian History”, claims the name to be derived from Dipu-Ravana, meaning the island of Ravana.

  28. El Dato says:
    @Tiny Duck

    > Muslims lash out at evil and unfair treatment

    Against non-white non-male Christians.

    How about you doxx yourself?

  29. Anon[270] • Disclaimer says:

    OT

    “I read and obsessively summarized Nassim Taleb’s books do you don’t have to.”

    https://www.aaronrenn.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/Notes-On-Nassim-Taleb.docx

    Aaron Renn is a think tanker at the Manhattan Institute dealing with urban affairs. He also publishes an eccentric newsletter for Christian men, From which the Taleb summaries are linked.

    “Nassim Taleb is a very important thinker whose conclusions are counter-intuitive, profound, and very favorable to Christianity.”

    https://www.aaronrenn.com/masculinist/

  30. Anon[270] • Disclaimer says:

    This should be wrapped up pretty fast. The Sri Lankan authorities are completely badass, and they aren’t signatories to the Geneva Convention or any human rights treaties. I remember reading that they developed a torture technique that is ten times more horrible than waterboarding, while being ten times simpler: flick a drop of gasoline in a plastic bag and then seal it around the neck of an interrogation subject. It doesn’t sound like much, but apparently they don’t have a snitches get stitches problem.

  31. Billionaire globalizer rat Jeff Bezos is responsible for every word printed or pixelated or spoken by the Swamp City DC Post.

    I won’t call that Swamp City DC rumpswab globalizer propaganda rag by the blessed name of General George Washington.

    Some person on the internet said that the Swamp City DC Post is the company newsletter of the American Empire; that’s sounds right to me.

    Jeff Bezos should be financially liquidated and Amazon should be broken up or taxed into oblivion.

    Amazon — or any other company — should not be getting big loot and power from getting contracts from the government for various projects. The government should be doing most of the stuff it does in-house. Privatization and plutocracy go together like two peas in a corrupt pod, and Bezos and his cozy relationship with some shady government workers and politicians must be brought to an end.

    Trump, the baby boomer fat-assed coward will Tweet all day long about how the corporate media is the enemy of the American people, but he won’t do anything to lessen their power or completely destroy them.

    The Swamp City DC Post and the New York Times and the Wall Street Journal are disgusting anti-White and anti-American rumpswabs that push mass legal immigration and illegal immigration and unnecessary, endless overseas war and sovereignty-sapping trade deal scams.

    Attention Steve Sailer:

    Why don’t you post some pictures of the good looking Hollywood Jew actress Jennifer Rubin as part of your fund-raising drive to compare and contrast the actress Rubin with that horrible Swamp City Post Jew Neo-Conservative warmongering ugly dog who is also named Jennifer Rubin? A Tale Of Two Rubins.

    Tweets from 2015:

  32. Jack D says:

    The NY Times now says “Radical Islamic Group Blamed in Sri Lanka Bombings” – perhaps implying that they are not really guilty, just being blamed?

    But anyway, we have to take these bombings in context :

    Religious Minorities Across Asia Suffer Amid Surge in Sectarian Politics

    The deadly attacks in Sri Lanka on Sunday highlighted how easily religious coexistence can be ripped apart in a region where secularism is weakening amid the growing appeal of a politics based on ethnic and sectarian identity.

    In India, the country’s governing right-wing Hindu party is exploiting faith for votes, pushing an us-versus-them philosophy that has left Muslims fearing they will be lynched if they walk alone.

    Indian Muslims fear backlash from tomorrow’s terrorist attack!

    In Myanmar, the country’s Buddhist generals have orchestrated a terrifying campaign of ethnic cleansing against the country’s Rohingya Muslims.

    If only there was some universal SECULAR ideology, perhaps one based on class struggle and collective ownership of the means of production, that could take the place of all these different religions, we wouldn’t be having these problems!

    • Replies: @res
  33. Barnard says:
    @Change that Matters

    How awful for Povlsen and his wife. Based on their ages, the children couldn’t have been older than teenagers either. Do elites tend to have that much sympathy for fellow elites in a situation like this? My impression is that nothing will change.

  34. anonymous[753] • Disclaimer says:

    The WaPo is denying the Islamist nature of an Islamist atrocity?

    Who do they think they are, the Unz review or something?

  35. I suppose that “militants” is Washington Post Newspeak for Islamic Terrorists. The mainstream media uses the word “youths” when black young people rampage through places like Chicago’s Magic Mile and your run of the mill shopping mall assaulting patrons, stealing cell phones, and vandalizing businesses. Newspeak is the media’s new strategy for covering up the misdeeds of politically protected groups

  36. That was beautifully and economically done.

  37. @Change that Matters

    You’ve got a good comment there, CtM. I was going to write something about the news media types only learning anything, or taking it to heart, if they and people they are close to feel the pain with the maiming and killing. I wouldn’t want to wish any of it on anybody, personally. I feel so sorry for this one guy. All that $6.5 billion means nothing compared to what’s happened to his family.

  38. Ragno says:
    @Tiny Duck

    Y’know, for a grossly-overweight white lesbian in a pink frightwig, you say some wacky things, TD.

    Though I think I like you better when you’ve finished gorging yourself on hog-nogs and Ring Ding Jrs,, and your pudgy fingers are momentarily incapable of striking enough correct keys to type anything legible.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  39. @jb

    As someone pointed out, they continue their act only for as long as someone else doesn’t break rank. Fox News and several overseas news sources had already broken rank.

  40. Mr. Anon says:

    I’m surprised they didn’t blame the bombing on “bombers”.

  41. @Steve Sailer

    This seems to be more of a case of waiting for solid information rather than suppressing information.

    I am not sure what will happen in Sri Lanka now. That is an area already known for religious violence. Things could get very ugly.

    The sad thing is if there is retaliation, the brunt of the retaliation will be against the majority of Muslims who want to live in peace with their neighbors. The strategy of the Islamists is to attack peaceful infidels, provoking the formerly peaceful infidels into attacking Muslims, which will radicalize Muslims and create more Muslim terrorists. The dangers of under reaction are to become Rotting Ham. The dangers of over reaction are seen in Burma.

  42. @Paleo Liberal

    Could get very ugly? Dude, I’d say 200+ people being blown up on Easter Sunday is already pretty damn ugly. At least try to look like you’re making some semblance of an effort here.

    • Replies: @Paleo Liberal
    , @E-I-e-I-O
  43. @Jaypo

    This term (Easter worshipper) was generated literally overnight by someone (we want a name of that person!) and became the Democratic Party and major media meme.

    They are using language to control thought–blatant about it now.

    http://rorueso.blogs.uv.es/2010/10/28/manipulation-of-language-as-a-weapon-of-mind-control-and-abuse-of-power-in-1984/

  44. El Dato says:

    OT, against the mindless waving of content-free placards:

    The Well-Meaning Bad Ideas Spoiling a Generation: Psychologist Jonathan Haidt on politics, morality, and the coddling of the American mind.

    Unfortunately, social institutions are incredibly complicated and difficult to change. If you get a group of 20 top experts to study poverty let’s say, or child abuse or anything else, it’s often very difficult to really find a solution. It can take years of study. We then roll out programs, and it often turns out that the programs backfire. So I think that college students, if they really want to make a difference in the world, they should not become activists in their freshman year. They should devote themselves to studying and learning, and maybe by senior year, if they’re really expert in something, maybe they could get behind it.

    Now there is one nice exception. The students at Stoneman Douglas High School in Florida, they did a wonderful job of reviewing the research on gun control. Because, it’s a much harder problem than many people think. They really researched it, they came up with a set of recommendations that I read and I thought, “wow, this is really well informed. This is great.” And then they went to the legislature and tried to put pressure on them to pass those reforms. That’s the way to do it.

    Unfortunately, what we have on campus often is certain popular ideas that have no empirical support: mandatory diversity training, more ethnic identity centers, bias response teams so that anybody can report anybody else anonymously. These might sound good to some people, but there’s no evidence that they’ll make a more inclusive, open, trusting environment. And there’s sometimes evidence that they’ll make things worse. So I believe that if you really want to make a difference in the world, you need to commit to really studying the world. Don’t get caught up in a group that is so passionate and so committed that it’s going to basically be blind to counter evidence.

  45. @jb

    …local Islamist extremist group, the National Thowheed Jamaath

    That’s a weird spelling that will throw people off the trail. By the conventional norms for transliterating Arabic, it’s Jama’at A-Tawheed Al-Wataniat. Which means “Society for National Unity”.

    Gotta hand it to my cosemitic cousins, calling yourself the “society for national unity” when you’re only 12% of the population: that’s chutzpadig.

  46. KunioKun says:

    Any sensible policy to deal with the problems caused by Sri Lanka’s 10% Muslim minority will be loudly and swiftly blocked by the West. The best response will be to demand that the West then accept any Sri Lankan Muslim who wants to relocate there since the West is acting as their patron and defender. Of course, offer to subsidize one-way plane tickets to any welfare happy Western city.

  47. KunioKun says:

    Here is a nice wikipedia article on what happens when an island nation of brown people get fed up with an agitating minority when they realize it is easier to ask for forgiveness than to get permission:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indonesian_killings_of_1965%E2%80%9366

    • Replies: @Joe Stalin
  48. Peterike says:
    @Change that Matters

    “Danish billionaire Anders Holch Povlsen (who owns Bestseller and is the biggest shareholder in Asos) lost three children in this attack. With a fortune of about $6.5 billion”

    Why is a Danish billionaire going to Sri Lanka in the first place, when he could afford anywhere on earth? If I had billions, I’d never end up in Sri Lanka. But then, a virtue signaling vacation is its own reward. Those children don’t qualify as Poetic Justice Warriors though, because it was their stupid parents who brought them to that place.

  49. @Change that Matters

    Awful.

    I’m thinking, however, of the “Danish billionaire” title. Why are there Danish billionaires? I thought they were all equal over there. Same thing with the “French billionaires” who want to repair Notre Dame. I had the impression that their wealth was all taxed away to make everybody equal. Turns out I was wrong… or this wealth is tucked away overseas or something.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  50. BB753 says:
    @Paleo Liberal

    Burma is our role model, because it works. Forceful deportation. Buddhist wisdom in action.

    • Agree: JMcG
  51. @Paleo Liberal

    the majority of Muslims who want to live in peace with their neighbors

    “Peace” by itself is a meaningless feel-good slogan. To give it any meaning, you need to consider the terms of the peace. Under the standard Muslim definition (the Dar A-Salaam) “peace” requires nonmuslims live as subjects.

    Every US President dreams of bringing about “peace” between Israelis and Palestinians. Yet current conditions in Israel are actually quite peaceful — certainly more so than Baltimore. To say that Israel needs a “peace plan” but Baltimore doesn’t (or at most needs better “community resources”, “empowerment” etc) is to say that you are satisfied with the balance of power in Baltimore, but not in Israel.

    • Agree: Desiderius
    • Replies: @Buzz Mohawk
  52. https://www.dailywire.com/news/46252/officials-mexican-troops-disarmed-american-james-barrett

    I’m more concerned about the immigrants violating us sovereignty here in the United States at the moment.

  53. bomag says:
    @ChrisZ

    Faith in the Narrative must require perpetual affirmation.

    Yes, and quite a bit of effort for the continual cover and explanations.

    One way to highlight their problems would be to measure this parasitic loss, akin to the way some mechanical failures are noted by the increased heat and required energy over normal operations.

  54. Ibound1 says:
    @jb

    Who is to say they are “extremist”? Their ideology is normative Islam. Jihad is normative Islam. What they are – is willing to act on their beliefs with violence. As called for by normative Islam. Most Muslims are willing to simply let others do this for them while they complain about the “backlash”.

    • Replies: @International Jew
  55. bomag says:
    @Jake

    As Plato knew, democracy always is a con game played best by the best conmen.

    Pretty well fits any political system.

    Not like aristocracy or communism doesn’t reward a con.

    I always figured you had to try a little harder under democracy, so there was a little more slippage toward a better outcome.

    • Replies: @Trutherator
  56. bomag says:
    @Paleo Liberal

    The strategy of the Islamists is to attack peaceful infidels, provoking the formerly peaceful infidels into attacking Muslims, which will radicalize Muslims and create more Muslim terrorists.

    So all the outreach and accommodation by Christians; the West in general; Hindus; etc. is meaningless. Good to know. Now we know what needs to be done.

  57. El Dato says:

    Another actress slips the surly bonds of sanity!

    We accept Charlize Theron bringing her boy up as a girl – but let’s not pretend it’s no big deal

    Didn’t Charlize once play some badass woman in that movie Alexa?

  58. notanon says:
    @Bill P

    I wonder what’s changed?

    the more overtly anti-white the media get the more obvious their double standards become.

    • Replies: @anonymous
  59. @Jaypo

    The folks there don’t look Anglo-Saxon, but we’ve got a lot of missions out these days.

  60. notanon says:
    @ChrisZ

    But who is being fooled by these verbal antics any more?

    GOP leaning but guilt-trippable soccer moms.

    • Replies: @Anon
    , @Desiderius
  61. Jack D says:
    @Peterike

    Since their civil war ended a decade ago, and until yesterday, Sri Lanka was considered to be a safe place for tourists. It has (soon to be empty) luxury hotels, a favorable climate, spectacular scenery, tropical beaches, etc. Until yesterday, the biggest hazards to tourists were Sri Lankan drivers and undertows on unguarded beaches. Maybe the place was not to your liking, but there was no particular reason to avoid it. Tropical beaches are by definition in the tropics and the tropics are mostly third worldish places. Sri Lanka for example has a homicide rate that is 1/10th that of most Caribbean countries, a little lower than generally tourist friendly Thailand and not much higher than Europe.

    If you were a billionaire, where would you go (or more to the point, not go) if you wanted to visit someplace warm for Easter that was within say 12 hours flying time from Copenhagen?

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  62. notanon says:
    @The Germ Theory of Disease

    anti-semitism prevents assimilation

    if avoiding assimilation required a certain minimum amount of anti-semitism then if a host population wasn’t anti-semitic enough they’d need to provoke some

    natural selection for paranoia would do the trick

    (if the host population were overtly hostile the paranoia would be sedated but if they were nice that would mean they were plotting)

  63. @El Dato

    Another actress slips the surly bonds of sanity!

    Theron is a tall, beautiful South African mental case who almost got Sean Penn to give up his guns. Theron don’t give a damn about the Second Amendment, especially since she left South Africa, where the Whites need guns to protect themselves from the Blacks. Theron don’t give a damn about the Whites remaining in South Africa.

    Musk is a bald bastard billionaire foreigner South African who has had a company called SpaceX that sometimes slips the surly bonds of Earth. Sometimes Musk’s space vehicles blow up like cheap fireworks on a boozy July 4th.

    Musk should be financially liquidated for his shady doings with Tesla and SpaceX and other things.

    How much government loot has Musk gotten for his shady deals?

    Strong opinions are frowned upon here at the Unz Review, but I humbly suggest that both Theron and Musk should be financially liquidated and then sent back to South Africa.

    Why hasn’t Sean Penn put the moves on Amber Heard yet? That would make this comment offering go full circle.

    White foreigners have to go back too!

    It’s OKAY to be White!

  64. Abe says:

    I remember during the Dumbya years and into early Obama there were regular bombings in Pakistan of religious gatherings with 100+ body counts- and by regular I mean seemingly every other month. A few targeted the tiny minority Christian community, but usually it was Sunni on Shia.

    • Replies: @El Dato
    , @notanon
  65. 216 says:

    The Occam’s Razor explanation here is a leftist fear of “stochastic terrorism” if they identify Christians as the victim.

    There’s always a recurring fear of “the backlash”

    An ancillary benefit is that the “conservatives pounce” narrative can be deployed in reaction to “Easter worshippers”

    • Replies: @notanon
  66. When it happens in a tiny foreign country, it is hard for the Left to blame the murderous act by Muslim radicals on US foreign policy or even on Israel. Unless there is some hidden economic struggle there, only one thing appears to have motivated this: hatred for Christians. This is why WaPo left that word out, even though it is crucial to the meaning. It was PC headline pruning. They probably have a Millennial on staff to take care of that for them, and since the PC Pruner is regarded as a skilled and essential position, that liberal arts grad won’t need coding skills to keep the job. Propaganda skills trump tech skills.

    Learn to code.

    Learn to prune.

  67. @Peterike

    Why is a Danish billionaire going to Sri Lanka in the first place…?

    Well, considering his four children, I doubt it’s for the same reason that Arthur C Clarke and Chickenhawks star Leyland Stevenson moved there for good.*

    Moslems and Christians are a distant third and fourth in Ceylon’s religious horse race. The Buddhist-Hindu conflict seems to be in (relative) remission at the moment, like the Troubles in Ireland. So why not go there?

    Lots of Swedes and other Europeans love to go to much more Islamic Malaysia and Indonesia, and many were lost in the 2004 tsunami. From Wikipedia’s list of overseas victims:

    Sweden Sweden was likely the most seriously affected country outside of the disaster area. According to Swedish authorities, some 20,000–30,000 citizens were in the tsunami-affected areas at the time, mainly in Thai resorts. 543 persons were reported deceased, and over 1,500 in need of emergency medical help and/or transportation home. 528 bodies had been identified as of May 16, 2006.

    Austria 86 Austrians confirmed dead. 85 died in Thailand and one in Sri Lanka.

    Denmark 45 people dead and 1 listed as missing (as of July 18, 2005). Of the dead, 43 died in Thailand. A young female tourist and a Danish resident died in Sri Lanka.

    Estonia Three confirmed dead in Thailand.

    Finland 179 deceased, among them musician Aki Sirkesalo.

    Norway 84 people died, among them jazz musician Sigurd Køhn.

    France 95 killed and 189 injured.

    Germany 539 confirmed dead.

    Switzerland Over 2,200 Swiss nationals are estimated to have been in the affected area at the time of disaster. 106 have been confirmed as deceased by the Department of Foreign Affairs, and many more injured; 6 persons are still missing (as of 20 November 2005).

    United Kingdom On 26 December over 10,000 British holidaymakers were estimated to have been in the region. There are 149 Britons confirmed dead and 1 missing.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Countries_affected_by_the_2004_Indian_Ocean_earthquake_and_tsunami#Countries_that_lost_citizens_while_abroad

    *Though my own hypothesis for the survival of same-sex attraction is that when they do marry, as is expected in most cultures, they have more children than average. Pregnancy is a very effective method of avoiding intercourse.

    But, no, I don’t apply this to Holch Povlsen’s case. He’s apparently just a rich guy who likes kids (the right way), and has a bunch. One survives. An “insurance run”, so to speak.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    , @Pericles
  68. anon[381] • Disclaimer says:

    “Team white guy is closing in on the finish line. He’s almost th — wait, wait. What’s this? Team Islam is making a strong showing. He’s coming up from behind. Can. He. Do. It? …. Yes, he did it! Team Islam surpasses team white guy, crossing the finish line at the last moment with a thrilling victory, scoring an incredible 290 points to win the day. Oh, the humanity.” Question: Will the democrats hold hearings on the dangers of Islamic Supremacism now? This attack killed five times as many people as that nut in New Zealand did.

    • Replies: @stillCARealist
  69. Dr. X says:

    What’s that? You’ve never heard of them? Like it says, they are a local extremist group.

    What kind of extremists? They are militants: mil…i.tants. Just like the headlines say.

    Yeah, well, the important thing is that you need to know is that Brenton Tarrant and Tim McVeigh were terrorists… not militants.

    I think the NYT et al made that clear.

    • Replies: @nebulafox
  70. Interesting to hear they can be shamed. I would give anything to have been in that editorial meeting. And you know there was one – or several – that went right to the top before that single headline was changed.

  71. @International Jew

    Yeah, that’s some extreme massaging of transliteration rules there. It looks to be transliterated from the Sri Lankan approximation of the Arabic pronunciation, further exacerbating the linguistic origins. “Conventional” transliteration can itself very depending on how you technical you want to get; anything from Jama’at at-Tawheed al-Wataniah (which is what I would use in non-technical contexts) to Jamāʽat-u at-Tawḥīd-i al-Waṭanīyyat-u.

    Also, tawḥīd uses its religious meaning here (monotheism, more or less) and al-waṭanīyyat-u refers back to jamāʽat-u, not at-tawḥīd-i. Better translation is “National Society of [Islamic] Monotheism,” which makes sense given the fact that it’s an Islamic terror group.

  72. Trutherator says: • Website
    @bomag

    1. Anybody who thinks white Anglo-Saxon protestants are still in charge in the U. S. or have much say in anything, is sorely deluded, and serving the interests of the pagans and Christ-haters who manipulate from the dark, learned in “dark sayings”,as Daniel called them.

    It’s not certain it was Voltaire, who said If you want to know who’s in control, just ask whom you’re not allowed to criticize.

    • Disagree: Gordo
    • Replies: @Gordo
    , @Desiderius
  73. @International Jew

    Why don’t you guys just nuke the rest of Palestine and get it over with? I’m getting tired of this — and I KNOW where it is going.

    I will not shed a tear for your neighbors.

  74. guest says:

    Do “analysts” ever know anything ?

    • Replies: @Buzz Mohawk
  75. guest says:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    I dunno if Ceylon sounds less gay.

  76. guest says:
    @El Dato

    Only reason this is allowed to be a question is because Theron is white and the child black. We must be sure she is not engaged in “buck breaking,” or giving him Big Momma’s House Syndrome.

  77. res says:
    @Desiderius

    Democracy dies in darkness.

    Indeed. And the WaPo has the blackout blind concession.

    For some fun, here is an article about their slogan:
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/style/the-washington-posts-new-slogan-turns-out-to-be-an-old-saying/2017/02/23/cb199cda-fa02-11e6-be05-1a3817ac21a5_story.html

    Some funny comments there. Stealing shamelessly from one of those:

    At least it wasn’t ‘Dauntless Defenders of the Truth.’

    which was an option they considered.

    Can’t believe they posted this comment:

    SS_G
    2/26/2017 3:06 AM PST
    I thought the Post’s slogan was, “If you don’t like something, blame white people.”

  78. @guest

    No.

    The term “analyst” is impressive and misleading, especially in the financial industry, with which I have some familiarity.

    An analyst can be almost anybody. It is like the term “producer” in television (another field with which I have some familiarity). That can range from the girl who gets your coffee to the asshole who pays you.

  79. The recent headline seems to have been amended (but that was from a third party site, but it does specify ‘islamist’).

    The left is much more aware of how much initial coverage shapes views. The right finds out the truth, the left doesn’t care as long as it advances them, and the middle third is left with the impression of the first headlines they see.

    The left plays the game much better than we do.

  80. @Tiny Duck

    Tiny Duck says:
    April 22, 2019 at 12:45 pm GMT

    99% of violence and evil is perpetrated by white male christians.

    Muslims lash out at evil and unfair treatment

    You guys are a hateful minority and will be deplatformed soon

    Get over it

    Show tits or stfu. Give me your Snap.

  81. Anon[128] • Disclaimer says:

    Buffet, Gates, and the Kochs are gentlile billionaires who could start papers to rical the NYT and the WaPo. Guess they like being lied to.

  82. J.Ross says: • Website

    The Jews embraced bombing briefly during pre-statehood Zionism, Irish, Corsican and Basque Catholics used bombing in disputes that weren’t really about religion, and Buddhists have had oppressive governments centuries ago. It can safely be said that no other religion is as reliably or as widely explosively violent as Islam. The only counter examples are vastly fewer in frequency and tied to nationalist conflicts. Of course it was Muslims, and of course everybody knew right away that it was Muslims, whether or not they could depend on help from the Soviet Union of Writers.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  83. res says:
    @Jack D

    perhaps implying that they are not really guilty, just being blamed?

    Yes. This is a journalistic variant of “selective demands for rigor.”
    https://slatestarcodex.com/2014/08/14/beware-isolated-demands-for-rigor/

    Standards of proof required for different levels of accusatory language make a great example of Who? Whom?

    P.S. Speaking of guilt and standards of proof, the latest in the Jussie Smollet saga is continuing the shamelessness. From his brother.

    What if Jussie is Telling the Truth?
    https://www.bet.com/celebrities/news/2019/04/20/jojo-smollet.html

  84. @Tiny Duck

    TD, Yesterday was Easter Sunday, if it was any religious holiday other than Christian, it would be refered to as the “High Holy Day.” Most Sri Lankans are People Of Color, your favorite group, and that’s good for you. Most of the victims were POC, so that’s bad for you. The bombers were Muslim, the religion of peace, so that’s bad for you. So in a major non white country, such as Sri Lanka, why do you rail against white men. Wait, it just dawned on me, you are a disgusting little troll and if I could get my hands on you I would pluck you raw.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    , @nebulafox
  85. TWS says:
    @Tiny Duck

    Now this is solid, ‘duck’. On topic blames the white man and is vitriolic without being too wordy.

  86. Anon[508] • Disclaimer says:

    When Muslims kill lots of innocent people again and again in the name of religion, the left blames the individual bad actors, nothing to do with the “religion of peace”.

    When a few Catholic priests were found to have molested little boys 30 years ago, the left blames the religion itself, not individual bad actors.

    If the left didn’t have double standards, they’d have no standards at all.

  87. @International Jew

    That’s a weird spelling that will throw people off the trail.

    Is this what “thowheed” is supposed to refer to?

    • Replies: @International Jew
  88. Anon[376] • Disclaimer says:
    @Change that Matters

    If he was a liberal before, I doubt he is now. I hope he’s going to start donating generously to Denmark’s anti-Muslim parties. There’s a point at which you wise up, or you’re just plain stupid.

  89. sarz says:

    This set of mass killings makes zero sense as a Muslim act. Only when you put the focus on the conflict of civilizations: Notre Dame, Al Aqsa, Sri Lanka, does it start to add up.

    Modi next door is making predictable use of it. Interesting is the fanatic Hindu woman ‘renunciant’ who is s serious suspect in a major terror case, whom Modi has just given a ticket from his party to contest for parliament. She created a scandal the other day by denouncing a senior police officer, Hemant Karkare, who was curiously killed in the attack on Mumbai in 2008. He had nailed this woman, and she now claims that he died because she (with her presumed spiritual powers) cursed him.

    Ten days before he died Karkare had confided to a colleague, who had told me, that he had, to his own astonishment just discovered that the Islamist militants, the Hindutva militants, and the Maoist militants in India were all three funded by the same sources.

    Sailer should have the sense to see the real issues, without passing through Islamophobia to get there.

    • Replies: @El Dato
    , @Herzog
  90. Gordo says:
    @Buzz Mohawk

    Nah, they’re planning to deport them to White countries,

  91. Gordo says:
    @Trutherator

    Meant to agree, need to clean my glasses.

  92. Anon[376] • Disclaimer says:

    According to Wiki, Buddhists are 70% of Sri Lanka’s religious population, Hinduism another 13%, Christians 7%, and Muslims are 10%. Something tells me Muslims are going to start getting it in the neck over there. 90% of the population is going to wipe out that 10% if it continues to be a problem. Sri Lanka will take its cue from India.

    • Replies: @Anon
  93. @Buffalo Joe

    Most Sri Lankans are People Of Color, your favorite group, and that’s good for you.

    Are you suggesting that Tiny…?

    Sri Lanka: Becoming A Nation Of Perverts, Paedophiles And Rapists

    CULTURE CLASH IN SRI LANKA, 1981

    Our favourite paedophile: Why is Donald Friend still celebrated?

    Leland Stevenson dies.

    By the way, this is the 25th anniversary of the release of Chicken Hawk.

    The filmmaker who looked at pederasty without flinching.

    I still haven’t seen it yet. My boys are approaching the target age, so maybe I should. Is it streamed anywhere?

    • Replies: @J.Ross
  94. Jack D says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    Thailand is super popular among Europeans.

    It’s hard for Islamic societies, especially fundamentalist ones, to reconcile religion with European tourism because alcohol and skimpy clothing and the comingling of the sexes (prerequisites for a beach resort) are incompatible with Islam. Malaysia tolerates European mores up to a point because they want the tourism $ but when tourists cross the line (for example by stripping naked or distributing Christian literature to cite two opposite extremes) they don’t like it.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-derbyshire-33105999

    • Replies: @Anon
  95. Anonymous[388] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jack D

    If you were a billionaire, where would you go (or more to the point, not go) if you wanted to visit someplace warm for Easter that was within say 12 hours flying time from Copenhagen?

    Yalong Bay, China: “The Oriental Hawaii” (~9 hrs.)
    Santa Monica, US (~11 hrs.)

  96. Anon[231] • Disclaimer says:
    @notanon

    Soccer moms aren’t guilt trippable.

    • Replies: @notanon
  97. Thales says:

    Frontlash from WaPo:

  98. Anon[192] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jack D

    SL has that too but not so much. For example, see: https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-coventry-warwickshire-41995069

    Though the Sri Lankan government apologized and provided compensation, unlike the Malays.

    Also, British headlines are awful.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  99. @anon

    Murders in wealthy Western nations are cause for big policy changes and deep meditation. Murders in large numbers in non-Western nations are just business as usual.

    Sort of like how we all just find the Chicago gangland killings to be amusing statistics instead of outrageous and unacceptable.

  100. Jack D says:
    @International Jew

    Using th for t (for both Hebrew and English) was common in early, ad hoc transliterations for some reason and survives today on the subcontinent where their English is sort of frozen in time.

    Tawhid in this context means not unity in general but specifically that God is one and indivisible and the only deity, a notion that Jews are generally comfortable with.

  101. Anon[508] • Disclaimer says:

    The religion of peace strikes again.

    Sri Lanka was becoming kind of a hot spot for YouTube vloggers, I guess this just sets them back 10 years. I didn’t even know there were Muslims on that Island. Even just 10% of them is enough to turn a country upside down, like in France. Just wait til’ they get to 10% in the US.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
  102. @Buzz Mohawk

    the Blank Slates carried down the mountain by Moses

    That’s pretty damn good. If you think he’s just aiming that at Jews you haven’t been paying attention.

  103. You know, Omar didn’t minimize 9/11, she’s just ‘waiting for all the facts to come out.’ The stories about the massacre of Easter Worshippers reveals the new approach: make sure that’s never.

    After all, nobody can google search words that aren’t there!

    The responses from Dems were as generic and non-specific as possible, and could be said on any day at any time: ‘(unspecified) People should feel safe in their (unspecified) place of worship.’

    Strong words!

  104. @Buzz Mohawk

    Because if we’re serious enough about treating Israel like a regular country others will follow suit and then the Palis will be clamoring to become Israelis instead of dreaming of destroying Israelis. There’s no right of return recognized for those on our southern border so they sneak in instead of lobbing rockets.

  105. Liza says:

    Good, precise article, Steve.

  106. Pericles says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    It was a huge disaster for Sweden, with some fairly big names dying. Thailand was a very popular destination at the time. I have acquaintances who had reluctantly gone to Thailand for a vacation, because who knows what might happen so far away from home, and claim they had to escape being swept to sea by climbing into a tree. “So apart from that, how would you rate your stay?”

    The government fumbled the disaster response, of course, and were even criticized by the King. It was partly the reason the old strongman, Göran Persson, got thrown out by the voters in 2006 and Fredrik Reinfeldt and his guys got in. As some may recall, Reinfeldt started out well but some years later had an episode of madness and opened the border to ‘Syrian asylum seekers’ and here we are.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  107. @notanon

    It’s not about guilt.

    They’re desperately trying to suss out who the strong horse is so they can get their children on that track.

    • Replies: @notanon
  108. JimB says:

    Militant. Ah, what a nice nonjudgmental word. Militants engage in everything from throwing eggs at politicians to mass slaughter of Christians. Who cares where the needle points on the destructometer. Perhaps WaPo should use the other M word: malefactor.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
  109. SMK says: • Website
    @Anonymous

    As if “Islamism” is distinct from and a perversion of Islam, “the religiion of peace,” according to George W. Bush and other liars and/or ignoramuses. And as if the religion founded by Muhammad, the seminal “Islamist,” wasn’t and isn’t “radical” and violent but “moderate” and pacifist in its teachings and commandments.

    At least they didn’t blame this outrage and mass murder on Trump and “white supremacists.” As Tucker Carlson recently opined: “In 20 years, every fifth grader will believe that 9/11 was committed by white supremacists.

  110. @Trutherator

    If you look into who exactly is directly doing the disallowing it will be in the vast majority of cases (post-)white (post-)anglo-saxon (post-)protestants.

    It’s the deracination (and despiritualization, and depatriation) stupid.

    The (post-)Jews who piss you (and me) off have been through the same process, they just feel a greater sense of loss from it since the tribe they’ve been conned into leaving was so much more central to their identity, so they take it out on those who conned them and those who look like the conmen.

  111. And now we can see the truth of the principle: Judgmentalism makes life better.

    That sheds light on why life has gotten worse sense the effort started to discredit judgmentalism. Now our society has to make room for all kinds of defective or dysfunctional groups who can’t get along with the heritage, functional population, and that includes tolerating Muslim religious obsessives who sometimes act out their delusions through violence directed at innocent third parties.

    We wouldn’t have this problem if we still could exercise our freedom to criticize and complain about the people whose presence spoils our lives without this nonsense about the spoilers’ calling it “hate speech.”

    • Agree: Desiderius
    • Replies: @Desiderius
  112. @advancedatheist

    Not about freedom, is about acting like a grownup, which is all about making valid judgments. If you’re nonjudgmental as a first principle you’re an overgrown child.

  113. @El Dato

    Maybe Theron is setting the kid up for future athletic glory. It can compete against natural girls and dominate with a combination of BAMMAMA and gender cheating.

  114. @Spaulding Smails

    Seriously?
    A place that just went through a long ethnic civil war and you can’t see that things could get a LOT worse than a few hundred casualties?

    By things could get ugly, I mean serious ethic conflict that could take tens of thousands of lives or worse.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    , @notanon
  115. @Anon

    Though the Sri Lankan government apologized and provided compensation

    There was a little more than a perceived slight to their religion (and hers) involved:

    “In particular, one guard had “made several lewd, obscene and disparaging remarks of a sexually-explicit nature” towards Ms Coleman, while some police officers had forced her to give them money. “

  116. @Ragno

    Though I think I like you better when you’ve finished gorging yourself on hog-nogs and Ring Ding Jrs

    Nah, he’s not that sophisticated. It’s Little Debbies for him. From the dollar store.

  117. donut says:
    @Cagey Beast

    ” Sri Lanka, the government has good cause to worry about a retaliatory massacre.” In a sane world the government would be carrying out the retaliatory massacres .

  118. J.Ross says: • Website

    SUMMER IS COMING

    People on the streets of Chicago aren’t afraid of cops anymore.

    Two officers were making a drug arrest this past weekend in Chicago when they were surrounded by an angry mob.

    The group of riled-up locals yelled and threatened the officers, who were overwhelmingly outnumbered. Body cam footage apparently showed some of the bystanders saying they were going to pull out their own weapons to hurt and even kill the TAC officers. The police were left no choice but to let the suspect go.

    http://archive.is/izIag

    https://www.lawenforcementtoday.com/chicago-cops-surrounded-by-angry-mob-threatening-to-shoot-them/

    • Replies: @Simply Simon
  119. @Paleo Liberal

    Seriously?
    A place that just went through a long ethnic civil war and you can’t see that things could get a LOT worse than a few hundred casualties?

    Yes, but this thing was between two groups of five-percenters. The other struggle was between two much larger pluralities.

    Let’s see… 4! = 24. That’s the number of potential direct religious conflicts in a quadriconfessional state, right?

    And that doesn’t include various secularists.

    Ain’t diversity grand?

    • Agree: GermanReader2
  120. @Pericles

    It was a huge disaster for Sweden

    The sinking of the Estonia in Estonia was the deadliest day for Sweden in centuries. I made a family of Danish-Americans laugh by suggesting it had to be pretty bad if it had the Swedes packing the churches as a result.

    (Didn’t last, though. Some of those folks you saw in church yesterday won’t be back till Christmas.)

    • Replies: @Buffalo Joe
    , @Pericles
  121. @Achmed E. Newman

    Ceylon sounds like the British being unable to pronounce Sri Lanka so they approximated it with Ceylon.

    There are many other place where they seem to have been unable to pronounce the name of the local place.

    Hong Kong comes to mind (it is a poor imitation of the Cantonese for that place).

    Rangoon is another that seems very unlike the way the natives pronounce the name of the place.

    Then there is Bangkok, which sounds nothing like the name the locals use for that city.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  122. J.Ross says: • Website
    @Anon

    Bangladesh was yielding some politically interesting bloggers. Volunteer neighborhood conformity agents shut that down. Bangladesh’s female PM started to decry this (to international mass media approval), then somebody explained to her how things worked and she backed down (international media didn’t cover this as thoroughly).

  123. J.Ross says: • Website
    @JimB

    A lot of cultures have tolerated, limited violence in effigy. It’s ugly but, outside of the SPLC cultic doctrine of real life magic, it does possess the distinct advantage of not being real. I hate the sight of these but would embrace them everytime if the alternative was Muslim pragmatism.
    ——
    Rural Poland and Spain had some kind of Eastertime “beat the you-know-who in effigy,” it was captured on video and posted to twitter, and now people who are okay with church flammability are outraged that a doll was beaten.

    So much antisemitic hatred in one video…

    As Jews celebrate Passover, #antisemitic residents of the town of Pruchnik in southern #Poland beat and burned a doll made to represent a Jew with stereotypical features.

    It’s also happening in Spain, except they kill the Jew with fire before shooting it:

  124. J.Ross says: • Website
    @Reg Cæsar

    I believe the whole thing is on Youtube.

  125. @Reg Cæsar

    Let’s see… 4! = 24. That’s the number of potential direct religious conflicts in a quadriconfessional state, right?

    I hate to go full nerd on you here, but no, 4! is the number of ways you could permute those four religions. It would be the number of ways a Buddhist, a Hindu, a Muslim and a Christian could bugger one another at the same time, if they got together for an orgy.

    The number of possible 1-on-1 conflicts is just 4!/2!(4-2)! = 6.

    (Extra credit question for the ambitious student: how many orders could they bugger one another in if they arranged themselves in a circle?)

  126. Anon[265] • Disclaimer says:

    The Sri Lankan security forces had multiple warnings that churches were going to be attacked on Easter, and ignored them. Sounds a lot like they wanted the Christians to die, with the bonus of knowing that Muslims would be taken out in retaliation.

  127. @Reg Cæsar

    My wife comes from a country that has had ethnic wars going now since the country was founded when WW II ended. The main ethnic group in that country is a rather genocidal bunch.

    For some reason, at the end of WW II it was decided to put all the ethnic groups in the same country instead of giving everyone their own country. It hasn’t worked out very well.

    • Replies: @istevefan
  128. @Buzz Mohawk

    You’ll find little support for that idea even on the rightmost fringe. Hard Right in Israel means your solution is to force Jordan to restore Arabs their Jordanian citizenship (which Jordan removed around 1975 — in plain violation of the principle in International law that forbids rendering anyone stateless). And have Israel and Jordan jointly rule the West Bank (except Israel would still be responsible for security).

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  129. @Reg Cæsar

    I was ready to bet you’d see “towel” in that…but I guess I would have lost that bet.

  130. anonymous[134] • Disclaimer says:
    @unit472

    There have always been judges like the late NYS Supreme Court justice Bruce “Turn ’em Loose Bruce” Wright, but this kind of crap is increasingly out in the open, and supported by the press.

    I believe we are seeing the beginning of Social Justice replacing…you know, Justice.

  131. @Ibound1

    Calling Muslim terrorists “extremists” while, when it comes to white terrorists like the New Zealand shooter, linking them to every possible conservative movement and blogger, is strategic. It supports a policy of promoting Muslim immigration on the one hand, while on the other supporting the wholesale deplatforming of anyone who’s on our side.

  132. anonymous[134] • Disclaimer says:
    @notanon

    …and the less useful they are during political campaigns. They are in danger of losing their Propaganda Mojo, and they know it.

  133. El Dato says:
    @Abe

    Yup, horrific stuff, with Talibans and other riffraff from Saudi Inc. blowing things sky-high.

    Then the US entered the fray by Drone-bombing speeding SUVs, potential terrorists, goatherders, fuel trucks and marriage celebrations, accumulating bad karma like it was going out of fashion. Not good.

    It’s been a long war.

  134. It is irritating. The word ‘terrorist’ is often abused.

    It wouldn’t be here. ‘Terrorists’ are always bad. ‘Militants’ are potentially — if not necessarily — justified in their actions. Is the Washington Post suggesting the attacks might be defensible?

  135. El Dato says:
    @sarz

    This set of mass killings makes zero sense as a Muslim act.

    Making a lot of noise and large booms seems to be preferred tactic of “m-militants” since the mid 90s. Blowing up planes (possibly including TWA 800), packing explodo-cars into the WTC garage etc.

    to his own astonishment just discovered that the Islamist militants, the Hindutva militants, and the Maoist militants in India were all three funded by the same sources.

    Which is to say? Please be more specific.

    • Replies: @sarz
  136. istevefan says:
    @Paleo Liberal

    For some reason, at the end of WW II it was decided to put all the ethnic groups in the same country instead of giving everyone their own country. It hasn’t worked out very well.

    Yet we are forever told diversity is a strength.

  137. Anonymous[427] • Disclaimer says:
    @stillCARealist

    All (well, the vast majority of) the money in Europe is old and secret money. They are discreet and use a mixture of elaborate tax dodges and the lower level of intrusion into personal finances still found in places in Europe than the American IRS.

    Mick Jagger with Prince Rupert Lowenstein were pioneers in the modern version of this.

    Rupert Louis Ferdinand Frederick Constantine Lofredo Leopold Herbert Maximilian Hubert John Henry zu Löwenstein-Wertheim-Freudenberg, Count of Loewenstein-Scharffeneck (24 August 1933 – 20 May 2014) was a Spanish-born Bavarian aristocrat and the longtime financial manager of the rock band The Rolling Stones.[2] His affectionate nickname was “Rupie the Groupie”. Loewenstein was named to the International Best-Dressed Hall of Fame in 2001.

    But there is little young money in Europe. Young money makes stuff happen. Old money got that way by not spending it. America is now more young money than old, probably, but we still have lots of old money.

  138. @J.Ross

    ‘It can safely be said that no other religion is as reliably or as widely explosively violent as Islam.’

    You’re merely advertising your bigotry and ignorance of history.

  139. Herzog says:
    @International Jew

    Tawheed (which is what underlies badly mangled Thowheed) emphatically is NOT nice, cozy, heart-warming, positive “unity.” That would be wahda. While the triconsonantal root is the same in both terms, namely w-h-d, the actual terms mean something completely different.

    So, while wahda means “unity,” the literal meaning of tawheed by contrast is “unification.” In Islamic parlance it refers to a very specific kind of “unification” though. Namely, in Islam tawheed is the art / field / “science” of showing how “God is One,” and how all of multifaceted reality emanates from him. So it is perhaps best translated as “Islamic theology.”

    Tawheed is a quite popular term in the names adopted by Muslim terrorist groups. West Africa for instance has several tawheed Muslim killer organizations. If I remember correctly, even the official name of what is commonly known as Boko Haram includes a tawheed.

  140. Herzog says:
    @sarz

    I keep wondering why Japan has so few incidents involving Muslims.

  141. @Colin Wright

    ‘It can safely be said that no other religion is as reliably or as widely explosively violent as Islam.’

    You’re merely advertising your bigotry and ignorance of history.

    I don’t know if he’s speaking in the historical sense or not, but if Jihadist Islam is not the current — in the 21st century — most violent religion, the one in whose name the most murders are committed worldwide, then which religion is? You’re not ignorant, so you can tell me. Give numbers, please.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
  142. @Peripatetic Commenter

    Ceylon sounds like the British being unable to pronounce Sri Lanka so they approximated it with Ceylon.

    [Munich] sounds like the British being unable to pronounce [München], so they approximated it with [Munich].

    [Burma] sounds like the British being unable to pronounce [Myanmar], so they approximated it with [Burma].

    [Londres] sounds like the [French] being unable to pronounce [London] so they approximated it with [Londres].

    [Mailand] sounds like the [Germans] being unable to pronounce [Milano] so they approximated it with [Mailand].

    [Turijn] sounds like the [Dutch] being unable to pronounce [Torino] so they approximated it with [Turijn].

    [Dinamarca] sounds like the [Portuguese] being unable to pronounce [Denmark] so they approximated it with [Dinamarca].

    [Þýskaland] sounds like the [Icelanders] being unable to pronounce [Deutschland] so they approximated it with [Þýskaland].

    Like English is the only language in which this happens!

    A good sign that a place is worth talking about is that it has a comfortable name in as many languages as possible. And those names will differ.

    Some places just beg for a change, but sadly aren’t important enough for the world to bother with:

    https://www.snopes.com/tachyon/images/photos/signs/graphics/austria2.jpg?resize=347,493

  143. Herzog says:
    @Paleo Liberal

    What is that “over reaction” concept you’re talking about?

    Re the subject under discussion I have a feeling I heard about it before, and maybe I even was familiar with it once. But it appears that as I grow older my mental powers weaken, and I find it increasingly difficult to still understand the notion.

  144. @Reg Cæsar

    Reg, yes “Holy Day Christians” as in attend service at Easter and Christmas, but sadly, a lot of good Christians in Sri Lanka won’t be at service on Christmas, or next Sunday, or forever.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  145. @International Jew

    Thanks. That’s why I added “right?”

  146. @Buffalo Joe

    Reg, yes “Holy Day Christians” as in attend service at Easter and Christmas

    Most C of E are really C & E!

  147. @Colin Wright

    Colin, can’t speak to J’s bigotry, but I took him to mean in recent history.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  148. @International Jew

    (Extra credit question for the ambitious student: how many orders could they bugger one another in if they arranged themselves in a circle?)

    Either 6 or 3 ways? Doesn’t it depend whether the circle can be mirrored horizontally?

    • Replies: @International Jew
  149. J.Ross says: • Website
    @gabriel alberton

    There are plenty of other religions that have episodes of violence which can be tied to an external, usually non-religious reaction. Islam is Islam all the time. There are no counterexamples, and the closest thing to a counterexample is cases of other religions reacting to Muslim violence.

    • Agree: RationalExpressions
    • Replies: @Colin Wright
    , @dfordoom
  150. E-I-e-I-O says:
    @Spaulding Smails

    Could get very ugly? Dude, I’d say 200+ people being blown up on Easter Sunday is already pretty damn ugly. At least try to look like you’re making some semblance of an effort here.

    Not 200+ people.

    200+ brown people.

    You see, people who aren’t white, are vicious and stupid savages who can’t comprehend what they do, outside of a moment of passion. So, it’s considered to be bad taste for white people to denounce savage behavior by savages who will never be able to better themselves without our assistance.

    Dont you even have A New York Times style book, for the love of Pete?

    In any case, the Tamil’s were victims of a full blown (just ask them) genocide that you never heard about, and they will continue to shriek until there’s none left to complain, and you’ll hear about that for a day or so, because they’re (say it with me) ignorant brown savages, by decree of the New York Times, and their fan base.

  151. @J.Ross

    ‘There are plenty of other religions that have episodes of violence which can be tied to an external, usually non-religious reaction. Islam is Islam all the time. There are no counterexamples, and the closest thing to a counterexample is cases of other religions reacting to Muslim violence.’

    Yer counterexamples: Christianity, Judaism.

    You’re welcome.

    • Replies: @Anon
    , @J.Ross
  152. Alden says:
    @Thirdtwin

    At least Hildabeast and Obama didn’t refer to the Christians celebrating Easter Mass as Spring Festival goers.

  153. @Buffalo Joe

    ‘Colin, can’t speak to J’s bigotry, but I took him to mean in recent history.’

    Ah. Well in recent history, Christendom and Judaism have been riding high, wide, and handsome. Why should they find themselves forced to resort to ‘terrorism’?

    ‘The law, in its majestic equality, forbids the rich as well as the poor to sleep under bridges, to beg in the streets, and to steal bread. ‘

    Of course any resort to violence by Islam is going to take the form of terrorism. That goes without saying. No doubt ‘banditry’ was more or less a monopoly of Christians in sixteenth century Serbia.

    And?

  154. gregor says:

    They’ve been saying “Easter Worshippers” to avoid saying Christian.

  155. @International Jew

    ‘You’ll find little support for that idea even on the rightmost fringe. Hard Right in Israel means your solution is to force Jordan to restore Arabs their Jordanian citizenship…’

    Well, what do you want? Israel openly stocking up on Zyklon B in anticipation of Der Tag?

    On the other hand, as matters stand, the Israeli army rabbis assure the troops it’s a Mitzvah to kill even gentile infants, practically speaking, murdering a Palestinian isn’t a criminal offense in Eretz Israel, and the Israeli army conducts massacres of up to two thousand civilians any time circumstances suggest it might be able to get away with it.

    It really all is remarkably reminiscent of Nazi Germany. Might I remind you that Nazi Germany, too, conducted no really large-scale massacres of Jews up until 1941 — and the advent of total war?

    I cannot see any significant distinction between Zionism and Nazism — and I have no doubt that come total war, Israel, too, will definitively address her ethnic problem. Every war she’s ever fought, she’s taken advantage of the opportunity to carry out all the expulsions and murders she calculates she can get away with. This was demonstrated in 1948, 1956, 1967, 1982, 2006, and whenever Cast Lead was.

    Come the big one, well…

    It’s one of those predictions where I would genuinely prefer to be proved wrong — but have a depressing confidence I won’t be.

    • Replies: @International Jew
  156. @Peterike

    Europeans routinely travel to Asian tropical beach destinations in the winter, and Sri Lanka has some advantages over many of the smaller islands of Thailand or places further away, like Bali. It’s a few hours closer, it’s a large island with a long history and ancient inland sights to show the kids, low crime (especially compared to the Caribbean), a generally mild-mannered local populace, and a sort of cultural variety (British colonial, Dutch Burgher, Buddhist, Tamil Hindu etc) that those other places lack.

  157. @J.Ross

    Enough of these kinds of incidents will ultimately lead to martial law–or anarchy.

  158. @gabriel alberton

    I’m thinking of this as a set of keys on a ring. So 6. Not sure I understand this new symmetry you’re proposing. Can you link to a picture?

    • Replies: @gabriel alberton
  159. @War for Blair Mountain

    At first I thought you were joking (and maybe you are joking) but there’s a serious question in this too. So, yeah. You could model this as the same permutation problem, but at each link (ie interface between one guy and the guy in front) there’s a binary choice: bugger, vs just dry-hump. So now for every one of those 24 permutations we have 2^4=16 bugger/dryhump possibilities. Thus 24×16=384.

    And there are yet more possibilities if you want to consider having some people buggering one another while others sit to the side and watch.

    If I were a college student forced to take a course in the Gender Studies department, I might work out more of the technical details and submit it all as a term paper.

  160. @International Jew

    Oh, nevermind, I considered the circle of people buggering each other to be equivalent to a circular molecule of four different atoms. But they’re not interchangeable at all. The molecular bonds would have to be unidirectional. My mistake. Since it’s like a set of keys in a ring like you said, then 6 is the only possibility.

  161. @Colin Wright

    ‘It can safely be said that no other religion is as reliably or as widely explosively violent as Islam.’

    You’re merely advertising your bigotry and ignorance of history.

    It depends on what the meaning of the word ‘is’ is.

    The Crusades and Inquisition were a long, long time ago.

  162. Anon[143] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon

    India wiped out its Muslim population?

    The things I learn on here…….

    • Replies: @Anon
  163. notanon says:
    @Abe

    I remember during the Dumbya years and into early Obama there were regular bombings in Pakistan of religious gatherings with 100+ body counts

    i don’t have a problem with Muslims being mad about that.

    i have a problem with a corrupt media filtering reality to manipulate public policy.

  164. notanon says:
    @216

    The Occam’s Razor explanation here is a leftist fear of “stochastic terrorism” if they identify Christians as the victim.

    if the media feared terrorism (of either kind) they wouldn’t want open borders.

    the Occam’s razor explanation is the media want mass immigration* and so lie about everything that would encourage people to oppose it.

    (* whether for cheap labor or divide and rule or anti-white reasons)

  165. nebulafox says:
    @Dr. X

    In reality, a terrorist is simply someone who

    a) Intentionally engages in indiscriminate violence to create terror among the masses-hence, the name.

    and

    b) Does so in the name some kind of defined, coherent ideology, usually political or religious in character.

    That’s it. Someone fulfills these two conditions, they are a terrorist. Someone doesn’t, they aren’t. These guys in Sri Lanka, Tarrant, Roof, and the Kouachi Brothers are examples of terrorists, whereas, say, Rodger, Lanza, and El Chapo aren’t.

  166. notanon says:
    @Anon

    i’ll amend it to “conflict averse” then

    the media want to keep soft hearted GOP leaning soccer moms clinging to the hope there are nice solutions to these problems until it’s too late.

    • Replies: @Desiderius
  167. notanon says:
    @Desiderius

    the media don’t show soccer moms pictures of crying children at the border to make them think hispanic immigrants are the strong horse.

    although i agree “guilt-trippable” is not correct

    “conflict averse” is nearer the mark.

    • Replies: @Desiderius
  168. nebulafox says:
    @Buffalo Joe

    You know, Razib Khan has mentioned a story about a bunch of evangelical white Christians from the Southern US going to the Middle East-Syria, Iraq, Israel/Palestine, Egypt, Lebanon, etc. Upon encountering the local Christians, they invariably asked how they had converted from Islam. Not knowing, of course, that their ancestors had been part of the faith for centuries longer than Europeans.

    It’s amusing to see the lefties pride themselves on their wokeness, and yet follow the same mental patterns as the people they decry, just with a different coloration. (My guess is that instead of being ignorant brutes “saved” by the white evangelicals, they’ve been a bunch of poor souls hoodwinked or blackmailed by them in SJW-think. I don’t know which is more condescending.) Yet more proof that SJWism is Puritanism without God? It really does seem to attract that very dangerous kind of person with a directionless craving for morality.

    • Replies: @Buffalo Joe
  169. Anon[260] • Disclaimer says:
    @Colin Wright

    Are you still pretending that you are not a muslim ?

  170. @Judge Smails

    “The Crusades and Inquisition were a long, long time ago.”

    And of a different kind than Islamic terrorism. No comparison. Though there have been many cases of Islamic aggression throughout history that are similar to these long ago Catholic actions. Modern Islamic terrorism is completely different than the older, more traditional religious/territorial campaigns carried out by the Church. The Inquisition might seem similar to Islamic terrorism since its goal was more religious, but the means were nothing like Sri Lanka. Of course I’m sure there are a few examples of acts by Christians that some might claim are similar to modern Islamic terrorism, but those were only superficially like what is now committed worldwide by the religion of peace.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  171. notanon says:
    @Paleo Liberal

    if the media’s policy in the case of attacks like Sri Lanka is to prevent a retaliatory backlash that would imply their doing the exact opposite in cases like Christchurch is to incite a retaliatory backlash?

  172. J.Ross says: • Website
    @Colin Wright

    Covered in earlier comments (ie, Jewish use of a truck bomb targeting children in pre-statehood Zionism was highly aberrant and tied to the bitter street fighting).

  173. @Colin Wright

    At least they didn’t use ‘fighters’, which I’ve seen at times used to refer to Muslim terrorists.

  174. @nebulafox

    neb, thank you , nice response

  175. Mark Steyn also does good analysis of the narrative manipulation over the Sri Lankan atrocities:

    https://www.steynonline.com/9317/taqiyya-for-easter

    • Agree: Vinteuil
  176. sarz says:
    @El Dato

    Which is to say? Please be more specific.

    That it’s our good friend, the Judaic-led globalist empire. That did 9/11, the paradigm act of this sort, and that controls ISIS. I take it you have read Bollyn, and that you have seen the accounts of McCain with the leading ISIS figures. And that you know who engendered and nurtured Wahhabism, a concoction of one Abdul Wahhab, a Donmeh (Turkish crypto-Jew).

    I was writing for an audience that would not need sny of this spelled out. Maybe that was expecting too much. Hope this helps.

  177. dfordoom says: • Website
    @J.Ross

    There are no counterexamples

    There are plenty of counter-examples if you widen the scope of the discussion to include all belief systems. We live, and have lived for a long time, in a world in which secular ideologies have largely replaced religion.

    Communism, national socialism and liberalism have racked up much greater body counts in the past hundred years than Islam. At least 70 million people were butchered when those three ideologies clashed in WW2.

    Mostly westerners don’t kill in the name of religion any more, because killing in the name of religion is backward and superstitious. But westerners have shown immense enthusiasm for killing in the name of political ideologies. And that enthusiasm is undiminished. Killing in the name of freedom and democracy is modern and enlightened.

    Christians don’t kill in the name of Christianity any more because it’s a dead religion. No-one kills in the name of Zoroastrianism either. Islam and Hinduism are still living religions so people will kill for the sake of those religions but the numbers killed are insignificant compared to the numbers slaughtered by secular religions.

    • Replies: @nebulafox
    , @Desiderius
    , @J.Ross
  178. dfordoom says: • Website
    @Judge Smails

    The Crusades and Inquisition were a long, long time ago.

    The Inquisition wasn’t particularly violent or brutal. Centuries of hysterical English anti-Catholic propaganda have convinced most people in the Anglosphere that the Inquisition was some blood-drenched orgy of horror.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  179. @notanon

    the media don’t show soccer moms pictures of crying children at the border to make them think hispanic immigrants are the strong horse.

    Not the immigrants, the people who care about them, unlike Trump (and by the way they’re so strong they can get away with telling lies about Trump and his policies and there is nothing he can do to touch them).

    The Big Man is always the most generous. We’re talking primal instinct.

  180. @notanon

    soft hearted GOP leaning soccer moms

    There are of course things they are soft-hearted about, that is the gift and purpose of their sex, but not about finding the alpha. That is the prime directive and they’re as hard as Tyson in his prime on that one.

    • Replies: @notanon
  181. notanon says:
    @Desiderius

    the original question was who are the media trying to manipulate with the way they report jihadist related attacks

    i say it’s soccer moms who are torn between
    – worrying about their kids’ future safety
    and
    – being conflict averse.

    • Replies: @Desiderius
  182. Anon[153] • Disclaimer says:

    I think there’s a definite possibility that most of the reporters in the Western world are taking bribes from Islamic countries to present them in a good light. I have no doubt that the Saudis have been shoving money at our US press for decades. You don’t even have to bribe reporters, but just bribe their editors, who then forbid the writing of anything anti-Islamic. I’m quite certain there’s been a strong effort on the part of monied Muslim elites to make Islam look good in the press since 9/11.

    • Replies: @nebulafox
  183. Anon[153] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon

    All those peaceful Buddhists have been getting more and more hostile to the Muslims in India, and Indian Nationalism is getting stronger each year. I have no doubt this is going to lead to war, eventually.

    • Replies: @anonymous
  184. nebulafox says:
    @Anon

    I don’t think that’s necessarily true. Indonesia is still a relatively poor country with little to offer Paper Belt journalists. But that doesn’t stop it from being portrayed as some exotic home to hippie style “tolerant Islam”, full of palm-wine drinkers and tolerated transvestites. It’s certainly true that Javanese aren’t Arabs, racially or culturally, but the reality is much, much more complicated than that. Especially since the inconvenient truth for Western bien-pensants is that Indonesia has been growing more conservative, not less, since the New Order fell.

    As always with “oppressed” groups, white liberals ostentatiously defending Islam are hundreds of times more obnoxious than most of the the actual Muslims themselves.

    • Replies: @Anon
  185. nebulafox says:
    @dfordoom

    That’s the thing that’s always prevented me from getting into New Atheism. The 20th Century should show pretty clearly that if you forcibly get rid of religion and don’t find anything to replace it with, humans will create new ones that’ll usually be far nastier than the old ones.

    There’s also the question of what we’d consider to be religious at all. This can be a pretty culturally dependent answer: in places like the Islamic World where outright atheism is taboo and belief in God is taken for granted, the standards can be quite different. Most ISIS-wannabes in the ghettoes of places like Paris or London are regular consumers of porn, booze, and American rap music. On the other end of the ledger, you’ll find a lot of Muslim dudes in STEM who genuinely don’t consider themselves to be religious until they move to Europe or the US for further education. When they discover that not drinking or not eating pork or believing abstractly in God make them religious on postmodern Western standards, they’ve got to update what they mean by “religious” or “not religious”.

    I’ve also noticed that converts to the religion tend to be more strict in following the rules than native born Muslims, especially immigrant kids in the USA, where in stark contrast to Europe, their parents are likely to be affluent.

  186. Pericles says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    Yeah, Estonia was more than 800 people while Thailand was 550 or so. Multiply by 30 to get relative impact scaled to American population size.

  187. @Peterike

    “Why is a Danish billionaire going to Sri Lanka in the first place, when he could afford anywhere on earth? If I had billions, I’d never end up in Sri Lanka.”

    As I understand it, the guy bought several huge chunks of pristine Sri Lankan hill jungle which was intended to be nature reserves to be administered by his (now much truncated) family. No good deed goes unpunished.

    It’s a very beautiful island, although the civil war (in which the Muslim population kept their heads down while the Tamils and Sinhalese scrapped) was extremely nasty.

    • Replies: @Desiderius
  188. @International Jew

    That’s right…Think of it as a permutation problem……I mean if you got a homo cave dwelling Iman from Afghanistan sitting at the table….use the Old Testament solution that Josephus came up with….

  189. Anon[260] • Disclaimer says:
    @nebulafox

    Of course Indonesia has been occupying ,colonizing and committing genocide in West Papua since 1963 without any international media scrutiny. Mass rape of locals by the Indonesian army is the preferred method of punishment and they have killed over half a million West Papuans.

    They leftist media should be all over it yet it goes ignored. Even with the sensational angle of lighter skinned Indonesians killing darker skinned Papuans. Racism !

    Imagine any non Muslim country getting away with it while the media actively suppresses the crimes for 50+ years.

    Palestinians killed by Israel since 1967 – less than 25,000

    West Papuans killed by Indonesia since 1963 – more than 500,000.

  190. @dfordoom

    Christians don’t kill in the name of Christianity any more because it’s a dead religion.

    For three days a year, give or take. Our Lord isn’t very good at staying dead tho.

  191. @YetAnotherAnon

    good deed

    If some Sri Lankan zillionaire decides to buy the state of Ohio so it can be “administered” by his family, don’t be expecting me to call it good.

  192. @notanon

    It is soccer moms.

    Following the strong horse is of course safer than the weak, but it’s about a lot more than safety. Conflict aversion is only a tactic, not the strategy itself.

  193. anonymous[121] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon

    Wow you can’t even distinguish Buddhists from Hindus. Is it just me or is the quality of drive-by taqiyyah declining lately? Colin W is still putting in a real effort, but the others…

  194. @RationalExpressions

    Of course I’m sure there are a few examples of acts by Christians that some might claim are similar to modern Islamic terrorism, but those were only superficially like what is now committed worldwide by the religion of peace.

    The Teutonic Knights stepped over the line, and their methods have been condemned ever since. By Christians themselves.

  195. @dfordoom

    The Inquisition averaged something like one death a week or fewer over centuries. Most of the blood was spilled by the state, not the Church.

    The Inquisition also gave us, or at least reinforced, the presumption of innocence. That’s not in the US Constitution, by the way, at least not explicitly. Maybe it’s implied under “jury”.

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2004/jun/16/artsandhumanities.internationaleducationnews

    • Replies: @jim jones
  196. @International Jew

    And there are yet more possibilities if you want to consider having some people buggering one another while others sit to the side and watch.

    Ringo on “Yesterday”.

  197. J.Ross says: • Website
    @dfordoom

    So you can name for me a single religion anywhere at any time that has the same embrace of violence as a constitutional function of that religion? I’m rejecting finite contextual justifications: you shouldn’t fear all Catholics given the Irish, but you should be weary of Muslim takeovers given Islam itself. If you’re thinking Yanomami or Sentinelese I would need scriptural evidence. Aztecs would be arguable, but they didn’t have the same normality of internal violence seen in Islam.

    • Replies: @Anon
    , @dfordoom
  198. Anon[192] • Disclaimer says:
    @J.Ross

    I’d argue with you on Aztecs…

    I’m pretty sure there were some Protestant sects that taught that in the crazy years of the early Reformation– I would go with the Anabaptists of Munster, but then most of what we know about them was written by their enemies.

  199. @Colin Wright

    That’s pretty wacked-out.

    • Replies: @Desiderius
  200. dfordoom says: • Website
    @J.Ross

    So you can name for me a single religion anywhere at any time that has the same embrace of violence as a constitutional function of that religion?

    As I pointed out earlier it’s pointless restricting the discussion to actual religions. Religion has not been important to Europeans since the 17th century. In the intervening four centuries Europeans have committed mass butchery on a scale that dwarfs anything Muslims have ever contemplated. It’s just that Europeans commit butchery for the sake of ideology, or nationalism, or profit, or power, or for the sake of political careerism.

    I’m not sure that any culture can match Europeans when it comes to committing atrocities on an industrial scale.

    The number of innocent people killed by the U.S. for the sake of freedom and democracy is infinitely greater than all the people killed by Islamic terrorists. So who are the barbarians?

    Europeans or Americans are in no position to point the finger at other cultures when it comes to barbarism.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
  201. @dfordoom

    Latin Americans since the Spanish arrived have had a pretty good record relative to the rest of the world at not killing each others in vast numbers, better than Europe.

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