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A growing theme in the media is the Racial Right to Laziness,

The following appears to be a different op-ed by a different black woman than the almost identical “Simone Biles, Naomi Osaka, and the Revolutionary Power of Black Women’s Rest” in Glamour that I cited 3 weeks ago. But this one from the Washington Post opinion page today sure sounds familiar. But that’s the point, isn’t it? Black women are too exhausted to come up with new ideas:

Black professional women are exhausted. They’re finally claiming the time to rest.

Inspired by Simone Biles and Naomi Osaka, many of the Black women I know in the business world say they are taking steps this year to reclaim their rest

By Amanda Miller Littlejohn
Today at 5:45 p.m. EDT

Amanda Miller Littlejohn is a writer and executive branding coach.

The previous one about Simone Biles and Naomi Osaka being exhausted was by “Melissa Kimble is a Memphis-based cultural writer and strategist, writing and building at the intersection of culture, community, and wellness,” who sounds a lot like Amanda Miller Littlejohn.

But that’s why we need more Diversity: so we have access to all the amazing diversity of thought among black female strategists and executive branding coaches. They are always coming up with unprecedented ideas such as that they should be paid more and have to work less. And then other times they come up with breakthrough beliefs like that they should make more money while working even less.

… Then Naomi Osaka pulled out of the French Open, citing her mental health. Several weeks later, Simone Biles withdrew from Olympic competition. Unlike me, both Black women chose to put their own health and well-being above the demands of their professions.

It struck a chord with me and many of the Black women I know.

In my business as an executive branding coach, I work with professional Black women who, while not competing on international athletic stages, are all accustomed to the rigors of competitive work. This year my current and former clients have all said in one way or another that they’re tapped out. They’ve started to intentionally reclaim their rest.

One such woman is Amber Cabral, who runs a boutique diversity and inclusion firm based in Atlanta and who I am currently coaching. Last May after George Floyd’s murder, the demand for her training services grew so much she was often working 12-to-14-hour days, sometimes at odd hours to accommodate her clients in different time zones.

Cabral was already on the brink of burnout when her godmother died suddenly in June. After the funeral, she booked a flight to Anguilla and took a week off to grieve. …

“Black women have been groomed to overachieve,” she said. “We know how to boss up and get it done. So it’s about reprogramming the idea that it’s weak to say you can’t do more.”

Reba Peoples, a psychiatrist and founder of Imara Health and Wellness center in Atlanta who specializes in helping women do this kind of reprogramming, says the inability to rest is equal parts history and science. Peoples was a coaching client earlier this year.

“We live in a culture that values productivity, so we’re measured by that capacity to produce,” Peoples said. “But for Black people, that idea goes even deeper because our [enslaved] ancestors were literally valued based on their capacity to produce labor. Not working up to capacity could mean beatings, or you could be sold off and separated from your family. So it was dangerous to rest, and we’ve had that encoded into our DNA.”

Last year, Kimberly Boyd Lewis, an executive coach in the D.C. area whom I worked with in 2017, saw how dangerous it was to rest when she lost two close friends and her aunt in close succession. Then her father-in-law had a car accident that left his back broken in four places.

Grieving and exhausted, she shared her need to take a step back at work. She says her boss, a White woman, explicitly told her she needed to push through anyway.

“I was exhausted, but expectations for me in my role were very different as a Black woman,” she said. “And I had [other] White female colleagues tell me that.”

She left the job a few months later.

According to Reisha Moxley, a Nashville-based clinical psychologist who did her doctoral research on high-achieving Black women working in predominantly White spaces, such microaggressions are common, and offer another explanation for why Black women are clamoring for rest. (I’ve hired Moxley as a consultant).

Until this year, former client and D.C.-based corporate executive Quiana Smith believed that outworking others was the key to her success. Once the pandemic took hold, she found herself working 12-hour days on her firm’s busy government practice. The schedule was a lot, even for her. She took off work in July, intending to take a trip.

“I did not realize how exhausted I was until I actually stopped and I didn’t do anything,” she said. …

That’s what happened when Christin “Cici” Battle left her job last year as executive director of a national nonprofit. (I coached Battle in 2015). She went home to Florida intending to stay for only two weeks. Two weeks turned into six months.

“I didn’t have any distractions,” Battle said. “And I realized there were so many things I was doing at the expense of my wholeness.” …

“And oftentimes as a Black woman, the only time that I’m applauded is when I’m outworking someone. And usually that is at the expense of me.”

White women get to be princesses. (Well, some of them, at least.) Why am I not a princess? It’s racist that I’m not a princess.

Battle now consults as a social impact strategist, community builder and what she calls “frolic facilitator,” helping others find joy and value apart from their labor.

She says Simone Biles and Naomi Osaka’s actions resonated so deeply for Black women because they signaled to the rest of us that saying no and prioritizing ourselves is okay.

… Personally, I’ve learned that rest is something I must fight for. I took a six-week sabbatical to write and rest that kicked off on my 40th birthday last month. I may not be risking a gold medal, but turning on my autoresponder and turning down paid work in favor of rest feels revolutionary to me. And I’m not the only one.

But, but, but I thought there was all this untapped African-American female talent out there ready to be promoted into the really important jobs.

Now, it turns out that black women who can handle white collar jobs are already absolutely exhausted and need to work less. Who could have seen that coming?

Clarification: An earlier version of this story should have specified the author’s relationships with the people she cites. The story has been amended to clarify those relationships.

 
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  1. WTF is an executive coach?

    • Agree: V. Hickel
    • Replies: @Currahee
    @Dan Smith

    Well it's kind of like a frolic facilitator except different in unique and basically unfathomable ways known only blackety-black females.

    , @Gary in Gramercy
    @Dan Smith

    Those who can't do, teach.

    , @Reg Cæsar
    @Dan Smith


    WTF is an executive coach?
     
    A boss bus?




    https://thumbor.forbes.com/thumbor/711x399/https://blogs-images.forbes.com/alanohnsman/files/2016/11/1121_proterta-josh-ensign-dustin-grace-ryan-popple_1200x675-1200x675.jpg?width=960
  2. “So it was dangerous to rest, and we’ve had that encoded into our DNA.”

    You based, girl! Damn straight we different genetically. Just not the way you imagine.

    • Agree: Charon
  3. “Pour me a grape soda, sweetie. I’m worn out. I’ll be on the chaise longue on the terrace.”

    • Replies: @Jim Bob Lassiter
    @Cortes

    While you're at it, clean up that nigger mess I made out of the data entry sequencing assignments for the ladieswear marketing project.

  4. Time for a black male author to step up and write a column titled, “Lloyd Austin And The Revolutionary Act Of Chillin’”:

    This summer Black women Naomi Osaka made the brave decisions to step back from the highest stakes moments in their careers; now Black man Lloyd Austin III has bravely followed their examples. While past Defense Secretaries might have worked diligently to arrange an organized retreat from a lost war, Austin’s laissez faire approach offers a lesson to Black men in America: for hundreds of years we built this country; now it’s time to relax (etc…)

    • Replies: @CCZ
    @Dave Pinsen

    The diversity, affirmative action, first this and first that hires are demonstrating that diversity is our weakness (oops, I'm supposed to say strength!!).

    https://twitter.com/kristina_wong/status/1428895404209356800

    Replies: @Anonymous

  5. unz.com is such a disappointment for a girl. especially steve and ron.///

  6. who runs a boutique diversity and inclusion firm

    As opposed to a diversity-and-inclusion boutique. In, say, Sag Harbor, N.Y., Highland Beach, Md., or Idlewild, Mich. Which would be much less stressful.

    “But for Black people, that idea goes even deeper because our [enslaved] ancestors were literally valued based on their capacity to produce labor…”

    Talk about a pyramid scheme. No wonder it collapsed in four short years.

    what she calls “frolic facilitator,”

    Where can we apply for this position?

    …helping others find joy and value apart from their labor.

    Black men have been doing that for centuries.

    • Thanks: Redneck farmer
  7. Hourly worker, when given the option, will work overtime to increase their paycheck. These black women all wanted to be executives but not put in the hours. How good are you at your job if you need a coach?

    • Replies: @bomag
    @Buffalo Joe

    Agree.

    I follow several youtubers who put in tremendous hours. They are proud of their work and don't complain.

    Replies: @Polistra

    , @Hannah Katz
    @Buffalo Joe

    So does someone with an IQ of 75 have to work twice as hard as someone with an IQ of 150 to get the same job done? Or it could be 85 vs. 110. They are not usually very good at math.

  8. In my business as an executive branding coach,

    ……………………………………..

    One such woman is Amber Cabral, who runs a boutique diversity and inclusion firm based in Atlanta and who I am currently coaching.

    Does this exist anywhere else in nature? A parasite that feeds on other parasites?

    • LOL: bomag
    • Replies: @Old Prude
    @Mr. Anon

    Claude Rwganje: Refugee Services.

    , @Ancient Briton
    @Mr. Anon

    Hyperparasites [Wiki]

    Replies: @Mr. Anon

    , @kaganovitch
    @Mr. Anon

    Does this exist anywhere else in nature? A parasite that feeds on other parasites?

    Yes, the D.I.E. industry, the life coach industry, the Nap Ministry, etc. amount to a giant self-licking ice cream ecosystem.

    Replies: @Art Deco

  9. all accustomed to the rigors of competitive work.

    oh my sides….

    “Black women have been groomed to overachieve,” she said. “We know how to boss up and get it done.

    Make it stop! Won’t someone make it stop?

    I took a six-week sabbatical to write and rest that kicked off on my 40th birthday

    Christin “Cici” Battle left her job last year as executive director of a national nonprofit. (I coached Battle in 2015). She went home to Florida intending to stay for only two weeks. Two weeks turned into six months.

    These people wouldn’t know hard work if it slapped them on the head with a mallet.

    What they want is more of what they already enjoy: applause for being Black! And rest, because it’s exhausting just being Black! Lots of rest.

    Anyone who’s worked in an office with negroes knows full well that they do next to nothing, come in late and leave early, take days off every week for preposterous reasons it no reason at all, and are subject to no rules ever because Racism. And no one ever dares call them on any of it.

    And that’s the good side. Because when one of them actually does something, it’s essentially sabotage and the white people have to cover for them and clean up their messes. Something symbolic about it all.

    • Agree: bomag, Charon, Mrwolf, Forbes
    • Thanks: Old Prude
    • Replies: @James Speaks
    @Hangnail Hans

    You forgot the non-stop chatter, ooks and eeks and all the group feeds Big Mama puts on to establish dominance. Did I forget something? Oh, right. They're rude. It's their right, you know.

  10. I may not be risking a gold medal, but turning on my autoresponder and turning down paid work in favor of rest feels revolutionary to me. And I’m not the only one.

    Indeed you’re not, sweetheart. There are 40 million of you. Collectively you do the work of several dozen whites and asians. And collectively you are the biggest drain on society that could possibly be imagined.

    These articles are laying groundwork for two things: one, white people had better not even hint that they object to covering for us 24/7 because Slavery, and two, guaranteed income and child tax credits and everything else will turn out to be for Black People, not for white people.

    Because Black People are Exhausted from, well, everything, and we work so much harder than everyone else. It’s time for our well-deserved rest, which for Purposes of Equity shall last at least 400 years.

    PS: okay, three things. We want that Gold Medal too.

    • Agree: West reanimator
    • Thanks: Charon
  11. Somehow I don’t think that this lady is the sort of coach highly sought after by Tiger Moms.

    Public high schools spend a lot of money on psychologist-guidance counselors. A complete waste. They also double-down on the racist idea that academically underachieving students will do better when they’re assigned to counselors who, uh, look like them.

    Increasingly, private highs try to emulate the publics, though in more trendy fashion. They pay for “life coaches”. Tuition-paying customers don’t seem to mind.

    • Replies: @kicktheroos
    @Abolish_public_education

    Why are you people constantly involving asians with your fight against the blacks, blacks who you gave your dna to, your violent culture to, blacks are the way they are is your peoples fault(british) , we dont to have anything do with black and white problems so keep us out of it.

  12. Clarification: An earlier version of this story should have specified the author’s relationships with the people she cites.

    I ain’t got time for no fool disclosure! Sheeeeeiiiitttt I’m goin’ on indefinite high-ate-us, gonna gets me some sabba tickle, summa dat leave of abscess …

    • LOL: Stan d Mute
  13. @Dave Pinsen
    Time for a black male author to step up and write a column titled, “Lloyd Austin And The Revolutionary Act Of Chillin’”:


    This summer Black women Naomi Osaka made the brave decisions to step back from the highest stakes moments in their careers; now Black man Lloyd Austin III has bravely followed their examples. While past Defense Secretaries might have worked diligently to arrange an organized retreat from a lost war, Austin’s laissez faire approach offers a lesson to Black men in America: for hundreds of years we built this country; now it’s time to relax (etc…)
     

    Replies: @CCZ

    The diversity, affirmative action, first this and first that hires are demonstrating that diversity is our weakness (oops, I’m supposed to say strength!!).

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @CCZ

    It's funny how Google doesn't show a picture of Lloyd Austin when you search his name. All previous Secretaries of Defense get pictures.

  14. Clarification: An earlier version of this story should have specified the author’s relationships with the people she cites. The story has been amended to clarify those relationships.

    LO friggin L.

    So they are her personal brood of hens. To be fair, a lot of magazine and newspaper writers (esp women) write this way.

    • Agree: Polistra
  15. The hivemind is getting so close to admitting that women don’t actually want to put in all those billable hours

  16. Have we normalized white male terrorism? A man pulled up to the Capitol today & threatened that he had a bomb. Hardly anyone is talking about it. White families: what trauma are you not addressing? What healing are you avoiding? Everyone loses to white supremacy, including y’all.

    When white Americans are being honest (not often), they’ll admit they’re embarrassed by how foolish America looks re: Afghanistan.

    Not horrified by our infliction of death & destruction on Afghan people – and our own military.
    It’s akin to social embarrassment.
    That’s it.

    • Replies: @Polistra
    @Saira Rao

    A man pulled up to the Capitol today & threatened that he had a bomb. Hardly anyone is talking about it
     

    What's that, tiny? A white man said something? General Quarters!

    Hmm, hey at the same place a black man shot an unarmed white woman in the head and the 'authorities' won't even release his name, much less prosecute him for it.

    CNN and the NYT on that one? Huh?

    , @J.Ross
    @Saira Rao

    It was clearly fake, it was clearly intended to try to save the regime from its latest failure, and it's not being trumpeted because it clearly failed. Somehow people see fumbling a twenty year multi trillion dollar war as bigger then Phantom Nazis.

    , @Forbes
    @Saira Rao

    A guy made a threat, news at 11. Right.

    Replies: @Mr. Anon

    , @anon
    @Saira Rao

    Have we normalized white male terrorism?

    No, but we have normalized false flags carried out by crisis actors.

    Why do you ask?

  17. Anon[360] • Disclaimer says:

    This is a reframing of the “blacks have to work twice as hard” myth. Yeah, let’s call it a myth. If you can suffix “model minority” with “myth,” why not here? “Working twice as hard” is now “outworking.”

    Until this year, former client and D.C.-based corporate executive Quiana Smith believed that outworking others was the key to her success….

    “And oftentimes as a Black woman, the only time that I’m [Christin “Cici” Battle] applauded is when I’m outworking someone. And usually that is at the expense of me.”

    In a lot of cases “working twice as hard” means “because I’m half as smart,” but I think what we’re seeing here is simple laziness and the recognition the in the present climate it’s harder and harder to fire or not hire black women, so why not take it easy?

    I’d like to ask these exhausted black women exactly how they define “outworking” or “working twice as hard.” Twice as many hours of work than white women in their position, on average.” White women goof off for half their workday, but blacks work with no Twitter breaks? Black women concentrate their brains to twice the blood pressure? Black women release twice the cortisol in milliliters into their blood during the day than white women? Black women take 8 hours during the day to do their hair and then work 8 hours, and white women roll out of bed and start working? Getting told twice as often by their bosses that their work is inadequate and needs to be redone? Is there some measurable metric that would show this “outworking.”

    Clarification: An earlier version of this story should have specified the author’s relationships with the people she cites. The story has been amended to clarify those relationships.

    This is an example of the corruption, unethical practices, nepotism, pilfering, and graft that starts to ooze out when blacks show up in the workplace in numbers. At best she didn’t notice or was unaware that in journalism you need to disclose potential conflicts of interest. That’s shows a lack of the “conformity” trait that a college degree is supposed to signal for. The fact that this was not minimally fact checked at the Post end is also indicative of a black editor, although the Post doesn’t require full fact checks of op-ed. And I wonder if she got permission from her clients … or whether they are really invoiced-and-paid-up clients in the first place, or more of a back-scratching con team.

    Rather than hire a black woman for inspiration, you could buy the Nipsy Hussle Little Book of Affirmations, a whopping 38-page pages of inspiration from the kind-of-black dead rapper.

    https://www.gratuityincluded.co/goods/lilbookofhussle

    Sample:

    https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/content/v1/5a1f65e2d7bdcebf66c6013b/1629048151832-J23VQX2S61CX2RLOCUO3/7EDDE2A2-DCB4-4983-9011-C2139424755F

  18. But that’s why we need more Diversity: so we have access to all the amazing diversity of thought among black female strategists and executive branding coaches.

    Never have so many been so tired doing so little for so few.

  19. Looks like Ms. Miller Littlejohn could use a bit more exercise and less laziness. She appears like the legion of overweight black women our culture now suffers to be well on her way to sugarfoot.

    What is with the 2 last names. Dos she preside over an English estate? Are her childrn wearing ascots during afternoon tea before the polo match. Things black people do.

    https://images.search.yahoo.com/search/images?p=amanda+miller+littlejohn+images+photos&fr=mcafee&type=E211US714G0&imgurl=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.essence.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2014%2F03%2Fimages%2F2014%2F03%2F27%2Famanda2.jpeg%3Fwidth%3D960%26height%3D540#id=5&iurl=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.essence.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2014%2F03%2Fimages%2F2014%2F03%2F27%2Famanda2.jpeg%3Fwidth%3D960%26height%3D540&action=click

  20. Well, I’m exhausted too. Maybe even depressed. When I see Biden give a speech, or skim past the headlines in the NYT, or pause for a minute on CNN… it definitely drags me down.

    • Agree: AnotherDad
  21. • Replies: @Polistra
    @Jus' Sayin'...


    colleagues reported seeing Medghyne Calonge repeatedly hitting the delete key on her computer
     

    She got rid of 17,000 résumés that way? Well the girl is nothing if not productive. No wonder she all tired.
    , @bomag
    @Jus' Sayin'...


    She was previously convicted of forgery in 2008 in Florida and was arrested in 2002 for writing a bad check, court records showed.
     
    Drifting into George Floyd territory. Should have a statue up and glorified in the near future.

    Replies: @The Alarmist

  22. The Covid Lockdown Hysteria Boys are also pretty lazy. Two years into this madness and no sign of rethinking by Sailer, Greg Cochran, Ron Unz or anybody else who pushed it.

    Fact: 78% of people hospitalized by Covid were obese.
    Fact: 40 % of people who died from Covid had diabetes.

    So yeah, fat, old, or gay, immune compromised people are under more threat from viruses. That’s always been true. That’s why two years into this most of us don’t know anybody seriously affected by Covid in terms of health.

    https://www.healthline.com/health-news/40-percent-of-people-whove-died-from-covid-19-had-diabetes-researchers-say

    https://www.beckershospitalreview.com/public-health/78-of-covid-19-patients-hospitalized-in-the-us-overweight-or-obese-cdc-finds.html

    • Replies: @Stan d Mute
    @RichardTaylor


    So yeah, fat, old, or gay, immune compromised people are under more threat from viruses.
     
    Wait, if this is true, that means that fat, old, gay, and immune compromised people are likely to die sooner than fit healthy people. We might be on to something significant here Rich. I can see a Nobel in Medicine and another one for the unstated discovery that systemic racism and white supremacy are the underlying cause.

    Replies: @Dieter Kief

    , @Jim Lahey
    @RichardTaylor

    You don’t know anyone who’s fat, old, gay, diabetic, or immune-compromised? Just the first two categories cover about half the US population. I know fat and/or old people who were hospitalized with COVID, some of whom died. Are these people not worthy of concern?

    Replies: @Dieter Kief

    , @Feryl
    @RichardTaylor

    Well, there's never been a better time to be a busybody and a scold. We're back to Victorian norms of shaming people for having fun and relaxing. And paging Ted Kaczynski and Ed Dutton, but covid hysteria has really opened the neuroses floodgates on unhappy Leftists and spiteful mutants who have never had more socially acceptable opportunities to drag normal people into their life-loathing misery. Why, even venturing outside can give you a "life-threatening" disease.

    Also, we've got things backwards because in a normal society it's what affects children that takes priority. But covid overwhelmingly hits people over 50 the hardest. A normal flu season is quite a bit more dangerous to kids than covid is, but pre-covid we never shut down all that many pre-schools and elementary schools to protect kids from the flu.

    Replies: @AnotherDad

    , @Mike1
    @RichardTaylor

    I took it incredibly seriously and I was wrong.

    , @Mr. Anon
    @RichardTaylor


    The Covid Lockdown Hysteria Boys are also pretty lazy. Two years into this madness and no sign of rethinking by Sailer, Greg Cochran, Ron Unz or anybody else who pushed it.
     
    In a year or two, I expect to see one of Ron's articles beginning:

    "I never paid much attention to the whole COVID thing, busy as I was with my various coding projects................"
    , @res
    @RichardTaylor

    Before getting too excited about research results it is worth taking a look at the actual papers. Especially if one has trouble finding those papers because of all the press releases and popular articles clogging up the search results. Especially if of none of those trouble themselves to give links to the full text.

    For your first.
    https://www.healthline.com/health-news/40-percent-of-people-whove-died-from-covid-19-had-diabetes-researchers-say

    This appears to be the paper.
    https://www.researchgate.net/publication/352729844_845-P_Unmanaged_Diabetes_as_a_Poor_Prognostic_Factor_in_the_Severity_of_Infection_and_Recovery_Time_of_Hospitalized_COVID-19_Patients

    I can't find full text anywhere, but your link notes that the study was of 369 people at a single hospital in Texas. If you want to base YOUR decision making on a single paper like that where we can't even examine the full text, be my guest.

    Your second link looks more substantial
    https://www.beckershospitalreview.com/public-health/78-of-covid-19-patients-hospitalized-in-the-us-overweight-or-obese-cdc-finds.html
    but let's fix one thing first.

    You: Fact: 78% of people hospitalized by Covid were obese.
    Link: 78% of COVID-19 patients hospitalized in the US overweight or obese

    That difference might seem small to you, but it is important. According to this link
    https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/obesity-overweight.htm
    For US adults 20 and over 42.5% are obese while 73.6% are overweight, including obesity.

    So 73.6% of people overall make up 78% of those hospitalized. That is overrepresentation, but hardly to an earth shaking extent.

    But looking more closely we see this.


    Among 71,491 U.S. adults who were hospitalized with COVID-19, 27.8 percent were overweight and 50.2 were obese
     
    So we can see that the obese accounted for 50.2% of those hospitalized. That is about 20% overrepresentation. Large enough to be worth noting, but nothing like a complete explanation of who is and is not hospitalized.

    That link is nice in having a link to the more complete report. Which has a nice plot of the association between BMI and various outcomes (after the MORE). An interesting feature is that the underweight (BMI 45) for both all ages and those under 65.



    https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/figures/mm7010e4-F1.gif
  23. Those “professional” women are just poseur superheroes. Real Black SuperWomen have boundless energy, and are equal to any emergency. “Able to leap tall ambulances at a single bound. More powerful than a collapsing civilization.”

  24. One such woman is Amber Cabral, who runs a boutique diversity and inclusion firm based in Atlanta and who I am currently coaching. Last May after George Floyd’s murder, the demand for her training services grew so much she was often working 12-to-14-hour days, sometimes at odd hours to accommodate her clients in different time zones.

    Well, if you are running a firm, then you can decide how much work to accept or turn down. Duh! Or hire more help to handle the West coast. A lot of this kind of work can be done online or through videoconferencing, I would have thought.

    According to her Website she does have free time: https://www.ambercabral.com/

    In her free time, she hosts a podcast called You Can Have Whatever You Want® and writes articles focused on inclusion, culture, equity and working-class life.

    How about visiting family, or going on a trip somewhere instead of doing what most people would regard as work in your spare time? What about a boyfriend, or girlfriend, if you are inclined that way? How about taking up cooking or knitting?

    • Replies: @Almost Missouri
    @Jonathan Mason


    Well, if you are running a firm, then you can decide how much work to accept or turn down. Duh!
     
    Not only do all these women seem to do vague and metric-free work, they all seem to do that work for each other. Presumably it would more tax-efficient if rather than counseling/consulting each other, they would just counsel themselves, or just cut out the BS altogether. They could also get all that rest they say they need.

    But I suppose if you start cutting the BS anywhere, then the BS everywhere starts to unravel, and soon you have no career.

    Replies: @J.Ross

  25. What could possibly be more exhausting than battling racist stereotypes of laziness? Once these gals are good and rested they can attack the stereotype of angry black women next.

    • Thanks: Hangnail Hans
    • LOL: Cool Daddy Jimbo
    • Replies: @Bill Jones
    @Veteran Aryan


    Once these gals are good and rested they can attack the stereotype of angry black women next.
     
    Because these stereotypes of angry black women really piss them off.
  26. Anon[109] • Disclaimer says:

    The real headline ought to read: Black women amazed to find out that in jobs that once belonged only to whites, you actually have to work like a white does.

    Blacks are really naive about how much work whites do. Because the average middle-class workplace didn’t have blacks until the last two generations, blacks never saw how much whites had to work.

    • Replies: @Fluesterwitz
    @Anon

    What kind of non-black person would be a “frolic facilitator”? Jeffrey Epstein?

    Replies: @Jack Armstrong

  27. When you realize that up to now US blacks were actually trying to be productive.

    • LOL: Kylie, Some Guy, Charon
    • Replies: @Stan d Mute
    @Rahan


    When you realize that up to now US blacks were actually trying to be productive.
     
    My LOL button quota was expended, but this really is a thing for employers.

    - When you realize that your new hire negro engineer is functionally illiterate (for example). -

    It can twist an organization into knots especially if the negro is a token.
  28. Hi Steve,

    Fantastic news!

    The obnoxious aggressive childish egomaniacally over-sensitive black lady in our office has woken up and informed us she’s so tired that she’s going to rest permanently- by going on welfare.

    What a relief!
    We won’t have to walk around on eggshells now, paranoid any little gesture, or look, or word would set off her Post-Slavery Traumatic Stress Disorder and have us fired- or cancelled.

    (Plus the staff bathroom will now be free, since she’ll not be spending hours in there on her hair.)

    We’re planning to throw an office party to celebrate! Please do come!

    (It’ll now be perfectly safe to tell us all about your recent holiday in that wonderful African country of Niger!)

    Yours,
    White Office Workers of America

    • LOL: Bugg
  29. Now that they up in the big leagues… they’d rather sit in the trainer’s room.

    • LOL: AceDeuce
  30. All your snark notwithstanding, Steve, I’m not entirely unsympathetic. Black women have a narrower off-ramp from the working world than women of any other race do. They’ve been carrying the water making up for the knuckleheadedness of the menfolk of their race for a long time. And many fewer of them will ever get the opportunity to “lean out” and let a male breadwinner take the lead.

    • Agree: Angharad
    • Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican
    @Thomas


    [Black women have been] carrying the water making up for the knuckleheadedness of the menfolk of their race for a long time.
     
    They’re also responsible for birthing babies who become ‘men’. It can’t all be due to rapes, therefore Black women deserve much of the blame for the existence of Black men. The “gap” that should be closed is their thigh gap. Professional Black women / TV trannies really need to impart that message to fecund downmarket sistas:

    “Tie them tubes, then get some self-care down time, get yo bussy rekt, whatever—ain’t no chyle gonna crimp yo roll, gurrrlll”

    https://media-cldnry.s-nbcnews.com/image/upload/msnbc/2016_12/455001/silcastphoto.jpeg

    Replies: @Barnard, @Thomas

    , @AnotherDad
    @Thomas



    Black women have a narrower off-ramp from the working world than women of any other race do. They’ve been carrying the water making up for the knuckleheadedness of the menfolk of their race for a long time.
     
    This is true.

    If a white woman has anything going on she can easily get and keep a white husband. And she won't be having her daughter dump her kids on her--so the daughter can take up a new boyfriend-- when she's say 40 and still has a kid or two of her own still at home.

    White American women are the most privileged people in the history of earth. If they aren't a doofus they can enjoy raising their children with unprecedented technology--power, water, a plethora of appliances, convenience foods and other products-- making homemaking and child care as easy as it has ever been ... and working a bit of paid labor to make a buck or two and enjoy modern bennies if they are so inclined.

    But suffice it to say, they don't see it that way.
    , @Giant Duck
    @Thomas

    It would be more sympathetic if the article were written from that standpoint - that black women are exhausted because they carry too much of the burden within the black community when compared to black men. But it isn't. It's written from the standpoint that black women work harder, and are still treated unfairly, by whites.


    Grieving and exhausted, she shared her need to take a step back at work. She says her boss, a White woman, explicitly told her she needed to push through anyway.

    “I was exhausted, but expectations for me in my role were very different as a Black woman,” she said. “And I had [other] White female colleagues tell me that.”

    She left the job a few months later.

    According to Reisha Moxley, a Nashville-based clinical psychologist who did her doctoral research on high-achieving Black women working in predominantly White spaces, such microaggressions are common, and offer another explanation for why Black women are clamoring for rest. (I’ve hired Moxley as a consultant).
     

    Replies: @Angharad

  31. This is another example of something that’s true, but perverted and sullied by making it about race.

    “work life balance” is a relevant point in our society because you really “can’t take it with you”.

    However, is there any evidence or argument, rather than just implication, that this issue affects black people or black women to a greater degree than other groups? No.

  32. Down through the ages, many people from many nations have remarked upon the work effort of Africans.

    So i don’t think it will come as a big surprise to anyone that these gals want to rest.

  33. Thank God work is now optional anyway.

  34. Black women are exhausted from all the hair touching and microaggressions of dealing with whitey all day and just want to rest.

    I’m feeling pretty tired of hearing about all the hair touching and microaggression blacks suffer and could use a break from that as well.

    Seems like there’s a win-win solution here?

  35. Black women have been groomed to overachieve,” she said. “We know how to boss up and get it done.

    Because black men are MIA. So not like the sistas be havin’ choices and sheeit.

  36. “Amanda Miller Littlejohn is a writer and executive branding coach.”

    Wouldn’t this be more precise: “…executive exhaustion branding coach“?

    Such are the merits of equity in the social state.

  37. How many of these women have to support a boyfriend?

    • Replies: @Old and Grumpy
    @Redneck farmer

    None. Professional men have been displaced by black and white women. The professional gals' marriage and dating markets are empty. Settling for a lower class male is not much of an option for WWD (women with degrees.).

  38. Pampered Pets exhausted from being petted so much.

  39. @Thomas
    All your snark notwithstanding, Steve, I'm not entirely unsympathetic. Black women have a narrower off-ramp from the working world than women of any other race do. They've been carrying the water making up for the knuckleheadedness of the menfolk of their race for a long time. And many fewer of them will ever get the opportunity to "lean out" and let a male breadwinner take the lead.

    Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican, @AnotherDad, @Giant Duck

    [Black women have been] carrying the water making up for the knuckleheadedness of the menfolk of their race for a long time.

    They’re also responsible for birthing babies who become ‘men’. It can’t all be due to rapes, therefore Black women deserve much of the blame for the existence of Black men. The “gap” that should be closed is their thigh gap. Professional Black women / TV trannies really need to impart that message to fecund downmarket sistas:

    “Tie them tubes, then get some self-care down time, get yo bussy rekt, whatever—ain’t no chyle gonna crimp yo roll, gurrrlll”

    • Replies: @Barnard
    @Jenner Ickham Errican

    It amazes me that people still believe the myths that the problems with the black family are entirely the fault of black men. The propaganda must be strong enough and the average person must not have that much direct interaction with black women to make it still work. The women described in this article are typical of black women in America today. They tend to be less attractive than women of other races and much more self absorbed. Just because black women keep their children for 18 years, many times primarily for the financial benefits of doing so, doesn't make them family orientated victims of black men.

    , @Thomas
    @Jenner Ickham Errican

    Perhaps. I'm very much of the opinion though that girls and young women need a strong father figure in their lives to develop into proper and responsible ladies. I say this as both the father of a daughter as well as a man who in my earlier life encountered and took advantage of the prevalence of "daddy issues" out there.

    In the case of black women, the men throughout their lives have a high likelihood of being either absent or abusive. And so the men they produce turn out no better. It's a vicious cycle.

    Replies: @The Griffins

  40. Black professional women are exhausted. They’re finally claiming the time to rest.

    Oh, I see. This article is only about the private sector. In the public sector this effort has been going on since the 1950s.

    • LOL: Goddard
  41. @Thomas
    All your snark notwithstanding, Steve, I'm not entirely unsympathetic. Black women have a narrower off-ramp from the working world than women of any other race do. They've been carrying the water making up for the knuckleheadedness of the menfolk of their race for a long time. And many fewer of them will ever get the opportunity to "lean out" and let a male breadwinner take the lead.

    Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican, @AnotherDad, @Giant Duck

    Black women have a narrower off-ramp from the working world than women of any other race do. They’ve been carrying the water making up for the knuckleheadedness of the menfolk of their race for a long time.

    This is true.

    If a white woman has anything going on she can easily get and keep a white husband. And she won’t be having her daughter dump her kids on her–so the daughter can take up a new boyfriend– when she’s say 40 and still has a kid or two of her own still at home.

    White American women are the most privileged people in the history of earth. If they aren’t a doofus they can enjoy raising their children with unprecedented technology–power, water, a plethora of appliances, convenience foods and other products– making homemaking and child care as easy as it has ever been … and working a bit of paid labor to make a buck or two and enjoy modern bennies if they are so inclined.

    But suffice it to say, they don’t see it that way.

    • Agree: bomag
  42. Give these ladies a break! Follow the science!

    Malcolm XX genotypes have to rest one of their X-chromosomes in each somatic cell.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex-chromosome_dosage_compensation

  43. The Diversity scam is reinforced over and over again mainly because it is also the easiest to call.

    If I have ten POCs and they all have the same opinions and action plans, the other nine are essentially redundant. Hence the constant hectoring of DEI melodrama to wash over dissenting rational voices

  44. anon[357] • Disclaimer says: • Website

    “I’ve been socialized my entire life to be hyper conscious of my “image”.

    … to be performative in my presentation to “fit in” to…”look the part” and to “not cause attention”.

    This my friends is the manifestations of white supremacy and patriarchy and I’m on a quest to shed allllll of that limiting socialization. Ok??!!

    I’m on a daily quest of living in my wholeness despite what people may think or feel.“

    From Cici Battle’s Instagram https://www.instagram.com/thecicibattle/

    • Replies: @Polistra
    @anon

    IOW, all y'all wypipos thought we was lazy before, well y'all ain't seen nothing yet.

  45. “Black women have been groomed to overachieve,” she said.

    I had no idea! I should never have let my subscription to the Washington Post lapse.

    Battle now consults as a social impact strategist, community builder and what she calls “frolic facilitator,” …

    See, this is why there is still money to be made in quality bidness cards. Sure, those smart phones are ubiquitous, but you know damn well if you’ve come up with “social impact strategist”, “community builder”, or “frolic facilitator” on your own, you’re gonna want it on some nice pink glossy bidness cards with those raised letters and a scratch-and-sniff picture.

    Not working up to capacity could mean beatings, …

    You tell it, Sista. I’ve been there – used to be a welterweight boxer.

    … or you could be sold off and separated from your family.

    Indeed. One of my great, great, granddaddy’s slaves was sold down the Potomac for lazin’ off … they say she washed up in Hampton Roads and was forced into a life of frolic facilitating and was worked to death – after her funeral, my ancestor’s family booked a flight to Anguilla and took a week off to grieve. …

    OK, that’s it. I’m exhausted. Making fun of lazy-assed Affirmative Action hires is a job that White men are expected to do tirelessly and selflessly with no respite. As descendants of slave owners, we have been bred to sip mint juleps on the wrap-around porch, not spend countless hours and hours on the iSteve blog.

    • Replies: @AnotherDad
    @Achmed E. Newman


    As descendants of slave owners, we have been bred to sip mint juleps on the wrap-around porch, not spend countless hours and hours on the iSteve blog.
     
    Is Southern Comfort ok, instead?

    Not being a descendant of (American) slave owners--i'm sure if you go back far enough, i've got some solid slave owning blood--i wasn't raised to sip mint juleps. And really don't care for mint at all.

    But i can do a little sugar in my whiskey. So if i could have the SoCo pass, that would be great.

    I'll go pour myself a shot now, to celebrate my whiteness.

    Replies: @Tony massey, @Achmed E. Newman

  46. • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    @Desiderius

    As an epistemic trespasser, let me just say one more thing:

    Seriously, were this the nascent www in 1995, wouldn't one think that iSteve was excerpting material from Mad Magazine or National Lampoon?

    Replies: @Dieter Kief, @Desiderius

    , @Dieter Kief
    @Desiderius

    I answered your post in my reply to Achmed's reply.

  47. @Desiderius
    https://twitter.com/jneeley78/status/1428770383633780749?s=20

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @Dieter Kief

    As an epistemic trespasser, let me just say one more thing:

    Seriously, were this the nascent www in 1995, wouldn’t one think that iSteve was excerpting material from Mad Magazine or National Lampoon?

    • Replies: @Dieter Kief
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Mod. Achmed - let me throw in a thought please: Epistemic trespasser is a term, that - biologist or some such Dr. Angela Rasmussen uses to diss people who are just having a glance at her subject and claim to make deep remarks even though. - You'd have to actually look into the examples she gives for epistemic trespassing, to decide whether she is right in being ironic/sarcastic about those who do contradict her claims - or not.
    The expression itself is - by and large - rather playful than midwitty, I'd hold.

    Replies: @Desiderius

    , @Desiderius
    @Achmed E. Newman

    https://twitter.com/literalbanana/status/1428947706920067075?s=20

    Replies: @res

  48. At first glance this is about race, but what it’s really about is using the prestige of black racial identity to advocate for for a certain kind of “toxic femininity”. Woke white women want to act like this too and often do.

    • Agree: Polistra
    • Replies: @Thomm
    @IHTG


    At first glance this is about race, but what it’s really about is using the prestige of black racial identity to advocate for for a certain kind of “toxic femininity”. Woke white women want to act like this too and often do.
     
    Bingo. Leave it to Sailer to blame race, when about 90% of the blame for this should be attributed to gender.

    Women's highest aspiration is to be given resources in return for doing no work. Their voting patterns confirm this.

    As you point out, a lot of woke white women complain about having to do work, but we see a lot fewer black men saying that.

    Replies: @Polistra

  49. Anon[357] • Disclaimer says:

    It’s been a journey accepting my body.

    Growing up in the world of ballet and modern mixed with white supremacy and patriarchy.. I’ve been socialized to praise “thinness”.

    I’ve been thin, I’ve been thick but this is the first time I can remember being happy.

    Remember that you are more than a meat casing…. and know, each casing you many have is worthy of love and praise.

    Y’all gon’ get alll this sweet meat this summer.. this body got me through a whole Panera (pandemic).

    #frolicculture #frolic #selflove #niw40

    MORE From the fabulous Cici Battle’s Instagram https://www.instagram.com/thecicibattle/

  50. Sailer, tonight I’m spending what would have been your money on a bottle of Cristal, and if you don’t shape up soon I’ll be taking away your Cloudflare protection too. Then you’ll see what’s up. You know what I’m talking about.

    • Replies: @El Dato
    @Hangnail Hans

    Who are you and why are you Don Corleoneing over the Internet?

    Replies: @Dieter Kief, @Hangnail Hans

  51. @anon

    “I’ve been socialized my entire life to be hyper conscious of my “image”.

    … to be performative in my presentation to “fit in” to…”look the part” and to “not cause attention”.

    This my friends is the manifestations of white supremacy and patriarchy and I’m on a quest to shed allllll of that limiting socialization. Ok??!!

    I’m on a daily quest of living in my wholeness despite what people may think or feel.“

     

    From Cici Battle’s Instagram https://www.instagram.com/thecicibattle/

    Replies: @Polistra

    IOW, all y’all wypipos thought we was lazy before, well y’all ain’t seen nothing yet.

  52. I have been exhausted for years. Oh, well.

    The only time I get to take off is when I am seriously ill. Just being sick isn’t enough. But hey, I am just a white guy….

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    @Gaius Gracchus


    The only time I get to take off is when I am seriously ill.
     
    Go grab a COVID test-to-go kit. Take a swig of Southern Comfort before you swab. Then call in, and tell 'em you just changed the baby but still can't smell anything.

    Disclaimer: I am not Doctor, or, worse yet, a Lawyer, or worse yet, an HR Associate.
  53. @Hangnail Hans
    Sailer, tonight I'm spending what would have been your money on a bottle of Cristal, and if you don't shape up soon I'll be taking away your Cloudflare protection too. Then you'll see what's up. You know what I'm talking about.

    Replies: @El Dato

    Who are you and why are you Don Corleoneing over the Internet?

    • Replies: @Dieter Kief
    @El Dato

    He might think that this is fun.

    , @Hangnail Hans
    @El Dato

    Hmm I demand a determination from Reg C as to whether the word "Corleoneing" should have one 'e' or two.

  54. @Achmed E. Newman
    @Desiderius

    As an epistemic trespasser, let me just say one more thing:

    Seriously, were this the nascent www in 1995, wouldn't one think that iSteve was excerpting material from Mad Magazine or National Lampoon?

    Replies: @Dieter Kief, @Desiderius

    Mod. Achmed – let me throw in a thought please: Epistemic trespasser is a term, that – biologist or some such Dr. Angela Rasmussen uses to diss people who are just having a glance at her subject and claim to make deep remarks even though. – You’d have to actually look into the examples she gives for epistemic trespassing, to decide whether she is right in being ironic/sarcastic about those who do contradict her claims – or not.
    The expression itself is – by and large – rather playful than midwitty, I’d hold.

    • Thanks: Achmed E. Newman
    • Replies: @Desiderius
    @Dieter Kief

    We all know those for which it's no joking matter at all, and given that men have the flatter distribution of epistemic capacity and co-evolved with the present institutions I know which way I'd bet, but that would be sexist but the agreed definition so I'd have to know the Dr. better to say one way or the other in her case.

    Replies: @Dieter Kief, @res

  55. @Desiderius
    https://twitter.com/jneeley78/status/1428770383633780749?s=20

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @Dieter Kief

    I answered your post in my reply to Achmed’s reply.

  56. One of the many benefits of having toxically high levels of self-esteem is never noticing how boring you are.

    • Agree: ScarletNumber, sayless
    • Thanks: Almost Missouri
  57. @Achmed E. Newman

    “Black women have been groomed to overachieve,” she said.
     
    I had no idea! I should never have let my subscription to the Washington Post lapse.

    Battle now consults as a social impact strategist, community builder and what she calls “frolic facilitator,” ...
     
    See, this is why there is still money to be made in quality bidness cards. Sure, those smart phones are ubiquitous, but you know damn well if you've come up with "social impact strategist", "community builder", or "frolic facilitator" on your own, you're gonna want it on some nice pink glossy bidness cards with those raised letters and a scratch-and-sniff picture.

    Not working up to capacity could mean beatings, ...
     
    You tell it, Sista. I've been there - used to be a welterweight boxer.

    ... or you could be sold off and separated from your family.
     
    Indeed. One of my great, great, granddaddy's slaves was sold down the Potomac for lazin' off ... they say she washed up in Hampton Roads and was forced into a life of frolic facilitating and was worked to death - after her funeral, my ancestor's family booked a flight to Anguilla and took a week off to grieve. …

    OK, that's it. I'm exhausted. Making fun of lazy-assed Affirmative Action hires is a job that White men are expected to do tirelessly and selflessly with no respite. As descendants of slave owners, we have been bred to sip mint juleps on the wrap-around porch, not spend countless hours and hours on the iSteve blog.

    Replies: @AnotherDad

    As descendants of slave owners, we have been bred to sip mint juleps on the wrap-around porch, not spend countless hours and hours on the iSteve blog.

    Is Southern Comfort ok, instead?

    Not being a descendant of (American) slave owners–i’m sure if you go back far enough, i’ve got some solid slave owning blood–i wasn’t raised to sip mint juleps. And really don’t care for mint at all.

    But i can do a little sugar in my whiskey. So if i could have the SoCo pass, that would be great.

    I’ll go pour myself a shot now, to celebrate my whiteness.

    • Replies: @Tony massey
    @AnotherDad

    All us white guys are in this together. Better make it a round for all of us.
    You forget about the rest of us.
    Geez...white guys always thinking of themselves and never sharing.

    , @Achmed E. Newman
    @AnotherDad

    Got about 5 bottle of the stuff at home, A.D. I'm not a big drinker but found some deals at the Duty Free store that I no coulda refused.

    I am not a descendant of the Southern planter slave owners either, not that I write that for wokeman points. You are correct that so many of us (and us includes all colors and shapes) have ancestors that were slave owners if you go back a little farther than 1840s Low Country S. Carolina. Peak Stupidity elaborated a tad on this in Peak Stupidity's Reparations Plan (a fiscally sound and very sensible one, if I do say so myself, cause no one else will...):


    It's a real fixation, I tell you, as probably a majority of us living in America today have had some slave ancestors of various sorts. You take your Hispanics - the Indian blood that makes up 1/2 their heritage is from ancestors for whom perhaps being held in bondage was the least of their worries.*. People with that Slavic background, well, you've got some street cred already, "Slave-ic", get it? You've got your leggy supermodels whose leggy supermodel ancestors could have easily been held as white sex slaves by, well, anybody, hell, who wouldn't? Jews have had ancestors held by Egyptians, Hittites by Caananites, Arkites by Girgashites, Sinites by Hermaphrodites, and more recently, Hindu-H-1Bites by Microsoft Windites. That's the big picture that many are not seeing.
     
    There's moar!
  58. @El Dato
    @Hangnail Hans

    Who are you and why are you Don Corleoneing over the Internet?

    Replies: @Dieter Kief, @Hangnail Hans

    He might think that this is fun.

  59. I’ll go pour myself a shot now, to celebrate my whiteness.

    Finally, a plan we can all get down with.

  60. @Saira Rao
    Have we normalized white male terrorism? A man pulled up to the Capitol today & threatened that he had a bomb. Hardly anyone is talking about it. White families: what trauma are you not addressing? What healing are you avoiding? Everyone loses to white supremacy, including y’all.

    When white Americans are being honest (not often), they'll admit they're embarrassed by how foolish America looks re: Afghanistan.

    Not horrified by our infliction of death & destruction on Afghan people - and our own military.
    It's akin to social embarrassment.
    That's it.

    Replies: @Polistra, @J.Ross, @Forbes, @anon

    A man pulled up to the Capitol today & threatened that he had a bomb. Hardly anyone is talking about it

    What’s that, tiny? A white man said something? General Quarters!

    Hmm, hey at the same place a black man shot an unarmed white woman in the head and the ‘authorities’ won’t even release his name, much less prosecute him for it.

    CNN and the NYT on that one? Huh?

    • Agree: bomag
  61. @Jus' Sayin'...
    Let’s play guess the race: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/disgruntled-hr-executive-trashed-personnel-files-and-deleted-17-000-resumes-after-being-fired-now-faces-up-to-15-years-in-prison/ar-AANrXx4

    And the answer is https://duckduckgo.com/?q=Medghyne+Calonge&atb=v266-1&iax=images&ia=images

    Replies: @Polistra, @bomag

    colleagues reported seeing Medghyne Calonge repeatedly hitting the delete key on her computer

    She got rid of 17,000 résumés that way? Well the girl is nothing if not productive. No wonder she all tired.

  62. @Jonathan Mason

    One such woman is Amber Cabral, who runs a boutique diversity and inclusion firm based in Atlanta and who I am currently coaching. Last May after George Floyd’s murder, the demand for her training services grew so much she was often working 12-to-14-hour days, sometimes at odd hours to accommodate her clients in different time zones.
     
    Well, if you are running a firm, then you can decide how much work to accept or turn down. Duh! Or hire more help to handle the West coast. A lot of this kind of work can be done online or through videoconferencing, I would have thought.

    According to her Website she does have free time: https://www.ambercabral.com/

    In her free time, she hosts a podcast called You Can Have Whatever You Want® and writes articles focused on inclusion, culture, equity and working-class life.


    How about visiting family, or going on a trip somewhere instead of doing what most people would regard as work in your spare time? What about a boyfriend, or girlfriend, if you are inclined that way? How about taking up cooking or knitting?

    Replies: @Almost Missouri

    Well, if you are running a firm, then you can decide how much work to accept or turn down. Duh!

    Not only do all these women seem to do vague and metric-free work, they all seem to do that work for each other. Presumably it would more tax-efficient if rather than counseling/consulting each other, they would just counsel themselves, or just cut out the BS altogether. They could also get all that rest they say they need.

    But I suppose if you start cutting the BS anywhere, then the BS everywhere starts to unravel, and soon you have no career.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    @Almost Missouri

    You know what this "coaching" is, is they have lunch at Panera together.

    Replies: @Bill Jones, @Almost Missouri

  63. I am continually surprised at the breadth of Mooching going on. To name but 4 shysters from the article:

    Amber Cabral, who runs a boutique diversity and inclusion firm

    Reba Peoples, a psychiatrist and founder of Imara Health and Wellness center in Atlanta who specializes in helping women do this kind of reprogramming

    Reisha Moxley, a Nashville-based clinical psychologist who did her doctoral research on high-achieving Black women working in predominantly White spaces

    Battle now consults as a social impact strategist, community builder and what she calls “frolic facilitator,” helping others find joy and value apart from their labor.

    ‘Freedom’s Furnace’, not so much.

    • Replies: @Art Deco
    @TyRade

    Bull$hit jobs. Idiocracy is now.

    , @Polistra
    @TyRade

    Consider that they got goofy 'social-science' degrees from second- and third-rate colleges, enjoyed a leg up everywhere they have ever been because Racism and Sexism, and are total strangers to the world of business. They don't even know anyone who's ever tried to run a productive enterprise.

    There's a lot of ruin in a nation such as ours, and we're going to witness every bit of it.

  64. No mention of husbands, let alone black husbands. It’s all kind of sad.

    • Agree: Polistra
  65. @Anon
    The real headline ought to read: Black women amazed to find out that in jobs that once belonged only to whites, you actually have to work like a white does.

    Blacks are really naive about how much work whites do. Because the average middle-class workplace didn't have blacks until the last two generations, blacks never saw how much whites had to work.

    Replies: @Fluesterwitz

    What kind of non-black person would be a “frolic facilitator”? Jeffrey Epstein?

    • Replies: @Jack Armstrong
    @Fluesterwitz

    Paul Lynde?

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

  66. @Saira Rao
    Have we normalized white male terrorism? A man pulled up to the Capitol today & threatened that he had a bomb. Hardly anyone is talking about it. White families: what trauma are you not addressing? What healing are you avoiding? Everyone loses to white supremacy, including y’all.

    When white Americans are being honest (not often), they'll admit they're embarrassed by how foolish America looks re: Afghanistan.

    Not horrified by our infliction of death & destruction on Afghan people - and our own military.
    It's akin to social embarrassment.
    That's it.

    Replies: @Polistra, @J.Ross, @Forbes, @anon

    It was clearly fake, it was clearly intended to try to save the regime from its latest failure, and it’s not being trumpeted because it clearly failed. Somehow people see fumbling a twenty year multi trillion dollar war as bigger then Phantom Nazis.

    • Thanks: sayless
  67. @Almost Missouri
    @Jonathan Mason


    Well, if you are running a firm, then you can decide how much work to accept or turn down. Duh!
     
    Not only do all these women seem to do vague and metric-free work, they all seem to do that work for each other. Presumably it would more tax-efficient if rather than counseling/consulting each other, they would just counsel themselves, or just cut out the BS altogether. They could also get all that rest they say they need.

    But I suppose if you start cutting the BS anywhere, then the BS everywhere starts to unravel, and soon you have no career.

    Replies: @J.Ross

    You know what this “coaching” is, is they have lunch at Panera together.

    • Replies: @Bill Jones
    @J.Ross

    Panera?
    Wasn't that founded by Louis Kane Born Itze-Leib Schmuilowsky? and Ron Shaich, also of the same ethnicity?

    No black businesses that they'd care to frequent?

    Me neither.

    , @Almost Missouri
    @J.Ross

    Probably.

    But they bill each other for that?

    Then they're just swapping $100 bills, plus the obligation to send another $20 to Uncle Sam.

    Replies: @Anon

  68. @RichardTaylor
    The Covid Lockdown Hysteria Boys are also pretty lazy. Two years into this madness and no sign of rethinking by Sailer, Greg Cochran, Ron Unz or anybody else who pushed it.

    Fact: 78% of people hospitalized by Covid were obese.
    Fact: 40 % of people who died from Covid had diabetes.


    So yeah, fat, old, or gay, immune compromised people are under more threat from viruses. That's always been true. That's why two years into this most of us don't know anybody seriously affected by Covid in terms of health.

    https://www.healthline.com/health-news/40-percent-of-people-whove-died-from-covid-19-had-diabetes-researchers-say

    https://www.beckershospitalreview.com/public-health/78-of-covid-19-patients-hospitalized-in-the-us-overweight-or-obese-cdc-finds.html

    Replies: @Stan d Mute, @Jim Lahey, @Feryl, @Mike1, @Mr. Anon, @res

    So yeah, fat, old, or gay, immune compromised people are under more threat from viruses.

    Wait, if this is true, that means that fat, old, gay, and immune compromised people are likely to die sooner than fit healthy people. We might be on to something significant here Rich. I can see a Nobel in Medicine and another one for the unstated discovery that systemic racism and white supremacy are the underlying cause.

    • LOL: RichardTaylor
    • Replies: @Dieter Kief
    @Stan d Mute


    I can see a Nobel in Medicine and another one for the unstated discovery that systemic racism and white supremacy are the underlying cause.
     
    Oh so - a double burger: Nobel in Medicine and the Peace Price on top of it! Seems about right.
  69. @Rahan
    When you realize that up to now US blacks were actually trying to be productive.

    Replies: @Stan d Mute

    When you realize that up to now US blacks were actually trying to be productive.

    My LOL button quota was expended, but this really is a thing for employers.

    – When you realize that your new hire negro engineer is functionally illiterate (for example). –

    It can twist an organization into knots especially if the negro is a token.

  70. One such woman is Amber Cabral, who runs a boutique diversity and inclusion firm based in Atlanta and who I am currently coaching.

    One woman with a consulting grift is sharing it with another woman who grifts off consultants.

    • Replies: @YetAnotherAnon
    @Art Deco

    "One woman with a consulting grift is sharing it with another woman who grifts off consultants."


    "Great fleas have little fleas upon their backs to bite 'em,
    And little fleas have lesser fleas, and so ad infinitum.
    And the great fleas themselves in turn have greater fleas to go on;
    While these again have greater still, and greater still, and so on."
     
  71. @TyRade
    I am continually surprised at the breadth of Mooching going on. To name but 4 shysters from the article:

    Amber Cabral, who runs a boutique diversity and inclusion firm

    Reba Peoples, a psychiatrist and founder of Imara Health and Wellness center in Atlanta who specializes in helping women do this kind of reprogramming

    Reisha Moxley, a Nashville-based clinical psychologist who did her doctoral research on high-achieving Black women working in predominantly White spaces

    Battle now consults as a social impact strategist, community builder and what she calls “frolic facilitator,” helping others find joy and value apart from their labor.

    'Freedom's Furnace', not so much.

    Replies: @Art Deco, @Polistra

    Bull\$hit jobs. Idiocracy is now.

  72. @Buffalo Joe
    Hourly worker, when given the option, will work overtime to increase their paycheck. These black women all wanted to be executives but not put in the hours. How good are you at your job if you need a coach?

    Replies: @bomag, @Hannah Katz

    Agree.

    I follow several youtubers who put in tremendous hours. They are proud of their work and don’t complain.

    • Replies: @Polistra
    @bomag

    If you've ever worked in a real office you know full well that the people who work best and hardest, and those who make a lot of noise about how hard they work, are--shall we say--two discrete groups.

    Replies: @The Alarmist, @Neuday, @aj54

  73. OT – it looks as if the Incel Menace could be taught in English schools!

    https://www.theguardian.com/education/2021/aug/20/teachers-given-flexibility-to-tackle-incel-culture-in-lessons

    Teachers can help counteract the rise of the “incel” movement and the dangers of misogyny with school lessons on respect for women and healthy relationships, ministers believe.

    A government source said that Gavin Williamson, the education secretary, expects teachers to be able to tackle the risks from incel culture through the relationships, sex and health education (RSHE) curriculum within schools.

    It follows concerns sparked by Britain’s worst mass shooting in over a decade, in which Jake Davison, 22, killed five people including his mother and a toddler in Plymouth last week.

    After the attack, it emerged he had shown interest in the incel – or involuntary celibate – online culture fuelled by misogyny and abuse of women. Police are investigating whether this was a motive for the shootings. On Thursday, an inquest heard that he argued with his mother, for whom he expressed hatred online, before the killing spree.

    The new curriculum, to be fully introduced this year when state schools in England reopen, gives teachers wide flexibility to explore topics such as beneficial relationships as well as darker aspects such as coercive control and hatred of women.

    The government source said teachers should be encouraged to incorporate discussions about incel culture within the topics, with Williamson endorsing the “key point” that teachers had the flexibility allowing them to do so.

    A spokesperson for the government said: “Schools play a crucial role in helping pupils understand the world around them, both through the RSHE curriculum – which allows for a school-led approach on teaching pupils about a range of current issues, including on incel culture – but also through their safeguarding duties, supporting staff to identify young people that may be at risk of radicalisation.

    “The Prevent duty is also a vital part of our work to keep vulnerable pupils safe, and schools must take steps to protect them from being drawn into terrorism.

    “We work closely with schools and local authorities, who must ensure their staff, including social workers, are able to identify pupils most at risk and recognise where early intervention is needed.”

    Schools, universities and local authorities also have a statutory duty to protect students from “radicalisation and extremist influences”, the government noted.

    It comes as teachers in Scotland are also to undergo training to recognise signs of young people being radicalised by incel ideas. Education Scotland will hold a video seminar next month on “incel ideology and how it can present both on and offline” hosted by Dr Kaitlyn Regehr, a lecturer at the University of Kent who specialises in digital culture and its effects on gender and relationships, the Times reported.

    Now this sounds like a recipe for mega-bullying, “incel” taunts, and increased teen suicide if ever I heard one. After all, at least in white communities, pretty nearly all the boys will be “incel” at 14, and still a majority at 16. Not quite so much for the girls. I can just imagine the comments in the playground and the changing rooms after one of these lessons.

    This looks like second-generation War Against Boys.

    https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2000/05/the-war-against-boys/304659/

    Strangely enough I don’t see any classes aimed at protecting girls from (mainly Muslim) grooming gangs, who have raped literally thousands of girls in England.

    “In August 2014 the Jay report concluded that an estimated 1,400 children,[15] had been sexually abused in Rotherham between 1997 and 2013 by predominantly British-Pakistani men (Kurdish and Kosovar men were also involved).”

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rotherham_child_sexual_exploitation_scandal
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Derby_child_sex_abuse_ring
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Huddersfield_grooming_gang
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manchester_child_sex_abuse_ring
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oxford_child_sex_abuse_ring
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newcastle_sex_abuse_ring
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rochdale_child_sex_abuse_ring
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telford_child_sexual_exploitation_scandal
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bristol_child_sex_abuse_ring
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peterborough_sex_abuse_case

    Some areas of the country with large minority populations are conspicuously absent from this roster – Birmingham and the Black Country for one.

    • Replies: @Hangnail Hans
    @YetAnotherAnon

    Everything that happens can and will be twisted into a justification for what wanted to do anyway. We see this everywhere--more than ever this past year and a half. And with the "grooming gangs" we see the ability they enjoy to ignore whatever doesnt fit their narratives. It's in the nature of power itself, and they have nearly all of it.

    Imagine what they'd call "grooming gangs" if they were composed of white guys.

    , @The Alarmist
    @YetAnotherAnon

    Maybe they should hire prostitutes or, if that seems too unseemly, require the teachers (is there a difference?) to sleep with the students on a rotating basis. Masked, of course.

    That’s gotta be a surefire way to achieve Zero Incel.

    , @Almost Missouri
    @YetAnotherAnon


    parked by Britain’s worst mass shooting in over a decade
     
    Weird how despite 100% gun control, they keep having mass shootings.

    But on the real point, the Man from I.N.C.E.L., one has to wonder why when the government's response to every other violent grievance is naked appeasement, the response to Involuntary Celibates is to ... make it even harder to get a date.

    Replies: @usNthem

  74. @Mr. Anon

    In my business as an executive branding coach,

    ............................................

    One such woman is Amber Cabral, who runs a boutique diversity and inclusion firm based in Atlanta and who I am currently coaching.
     
    Does this exist anywhere else in nature? A parasite that feeds on other parasites?

    Replies: @Old Prude, @Ancient Briton, @kaganovitch

    Claude Rwganje: Refugee Services.

    • Agree: aj54
  75. Then they just need to turn to Miss Hillary for inspiration ….

  76. @Jus' Sayin'...
    Let’s play guess the race: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/disgruntled-hr-executive-trashed-personnel-files-and-deleted-17-000-resumes-after-being-fired-now-faces-up-to-15-years-in-prison/ar-AANrXx4

    And the answer is https://duckduckgo.com/?q=Medghyne+Calonge&atb=v266-1&iax=images&ia=images

    Replies: @Polistra, @bomag

    She was previously convicted of forgery in 2008 in Florida and was arrested in 2002 for writing a bad check, court records showed.

    Drifting into George Floyd territory. Should have a statue up and glorified in the near future.

    • Replies: @The Alarmist
    @bomag

    Who gets to kneel on her neck until she is dead? You want the Saint George gibs, you gotta pay the Saint George price.

  77. Remember, these articles are not written to be read by gen pop negroes. This is guilt porn for cloud people.

  78. @Art Deco
    One such woman is Amber Cabral, who runs a boutique diversity and inclusion firm based in Atlanta and who I am currently coaching.

    One woman with a consulting grift is sharing it with another woman who grifts off consultants.

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon

    “One woman with a consulting grift is sharing it with another woman who grifts off consultants.”

    “Great fleas have little fleas upon their backs to bite ’em,
    And little fleas have lesser fleas, and so ad infinitum.
    And the great fleas themselves in turn have greater fleas to go on;
    While these again have greater still, and greater still, and so on.”

  79. I noticed she capitalized White in addition to Black. I don’t know if that was her choice or if that was stylistically imposed upon her by WaPo, but I appreciate the consistency.

  80. Cabral was already on the brink of burnout when her godmother died suddenly in June.

    I only took three days off when my father died, and two days when my brother died. But who among us doesn’t need to take a full week off for the death of our *godmother*?

    Perhaps the godmother was a fairy?

    • Replies: @Elli
    @Wilkey

    My mother is dying. For four months I have been working 55 hour weeks covering for an injured coworker, 30 hours a week taking care of my mother or being with her in hospital, and dealing with another major crisis.

    After I collapsed in the hospital with my blood pressure through the roof and the rapid response team swarmed me, I called out of work for a week because that is the only thing I can step away from.

    And my immigrant, other ethnicity manager kept texting me, "I can't find not one to cover, can you just do the mornings." "Also Friday, there is not one."

    So Ms Miller Littlejohn, this white woman knows exhaustion. And I have a woman of color trying to wring more out of me than I can physically give.

    And I will never be able to afford a six week sabbatical, or a six month stay in Florida. White privilege. Love it.

    Replies: @Goddard

  81. @AnotherDad
    @Achmed E. Newman


    As descendants of slave owners, we have been bred to sip mint juleps on the wrap-around porch, not spend countless hours and hours on the iSteve blog.
     
    Is Southern Comfort ok, instead?

    Not being a descendant of (American) slave owners--i'm sure if you go back far enough, i've got some solid slave owning blood--i wasn't raised to sip mint juleps. And really don't care for mint at all.

    But i can do a little sugar in my whiskey. So if i could have the SoCo pass, that would be great.

    I'll go pour myself a shot now, to celebrate my whiteness.

    Replies: @Tony massey, @Achmed E. Newman

    All us white guys are in this together. Better make it a round for all of us.
    You forget about the rest of us.
    Geez…white guys always thinking of themselves and never sharing.

  82. @TyRade
    I am continually surprised at the breadth of Mooching going on. To name but 4 shysters from the article:

    Amber Cabral, who runs a boutique diversity and inclusion firm

    Reba Peoples, a psychiatrist and founder of Imara Health and Wellness center in Atlanta who specializes in helping women do this kind of reprogramming

    Reisha Moxley, a Nashville-based clinical psychologist who did her doctoral research on high-achieving Black women working in predominantly White spaces

    Battle now consults as a social impact strategist, community builder and what she calls “frolic facilitator,” helping others find joy and value apart from their labor.

    'Freedom's Furnace', not so much.

    Replies: @Art Deco, @Polistra

    Consider that they got goofy ‘social-science’ degrees from second- and third-rate colleges, enjoyed a leg up everywhere they have ever been because Racism and Sexism, and are total strangers to the world of business. They don’t even know anyone who’s ever tried to run a productive enterprise.

    There’s a lot of ruin in a nation such as ours, and we’re going to witness every bit of it.

  83. @bomag
    @Buffalo Joe

    Agree.

    I follow several youtubers who put in tremendous hours. They are proud of their work and don't complain.

    Replies: @Polistra

    If you’ve ever worked in a real office you know full well that the people who work best and hardest, and those who make a lot of noise about how hard they work, are–shall we say–two discrete groups.

    • Agree: bomag
    • Replies: @The Alarmist
    @Polistra


    ... those who make a lot of noise about how hard they work, are–shall we say–two discrete groups.
     
    When I moved to Europe a while back, I had two reports in the middle-office who assumed I didn’t understand the language, so they spent the morning moving pieces of paper from one stack on their desk to another while they yacked on the phone all morning to their friends. They repeated the process in the other direction after lunch. They also didn’t realise that I observed that they “worked” to the same time every night, racking up all sorts of overtime because they had figured out that the system automatically logged them out at 8pm if they didn’t punch out. My boss at the time, a rather dumb but political European told me they were the pillars of the bank or some bullshit like that, as evidenced by all their activity and long hours.

    Too many people are activity oriented and not results oriented.
    , @Neuday
    @Polistra

    One of the things I learned in White Supremacy class was that you should find a job that suits you. And in Advanced White Supremacy class I learned that with enough effort you should gain mastery of your job to the point that it shouldn't really feel like work anymore; it's just what you "do". Even when I was young and had crappy jobs at the end of the day or week I could see the results of my efforts, and that, in addition to a well-deserved paycheck, provided a sense of satisfaction. Providing for my woman and eventually children and spending time with them on the weekends made the work worth it (something else I learned in White Supremacy class).

    I'm in IT so while I'm productive I don't consider it to be real work. Every single day I see truckers pulling triple-trailers, guys on utility lines in crappy weather, farmers on a tractor with the sun, guys on their knees stocking shelves as fast as they can, middle-aged people who have to be on their feet all day long, and I think that's real work. Only a Black woman can combine that 85-IQ with female self-obsession to complain about how exhausted she is talking and bullshitting for a living.

    Replies: @Jack Armstrong

    , @aj54
    @Polistra

    I was going to say something similar, but that "noise about how hard they work" was perfection. It did cross my mind that this author, and all the burnouts she talks to, possibly have no idea how hard other people work. Most people manage to practice enough regular self care and recreation on the weekend that they can get up and do it all again on Monday. How many people do we know who ever had an opportunity for an actual sabbatical? or could afford to take an unpaid one?

  84. @Gaius Gracchus
    I have been exhausted for years. Oh, well.

    The only time I get to take off is when I am seriously ill. Just being sick isn't enough. But hey, I am just a white guy....

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

    The only time I get to take off is when I am seriously ill.

    Go grab a COVID test-to-go kit. Take a swig of Southern Comfort before you swab. Then call in, and tell ’em you just changed the baby but still can’t smell anything.

    Disclaimer: I am not Doctor, or, worse yet, a Lawyer, or worse yet, an HR Associate.

    • LOL: Angharad
  85. To think that being called “tired” once used to be the kiss of death for a career.

  86. @YetAnotherAnon
    OT - it looks as if the Incel Menace could be taught in English schools!

    https://www.theguardian.com/education/2021/aug/20/teachers-given-flexibility-to-tackle-incel-culture-in-lessons

    Teachers can help counteract the rise of the “incel” movement and the dangers of misogyny with school lessons on respect for women and healthy relationships, ministers believe.

    A government source said that Gavin Williamson, the education secretary, expects teachers to be able to tackle the risks from incel culture through the relationships, sex and health education (RSHE) curriculum within schools.

    It follows concerns sparked by Britain’s worst mass shooting in over a decade, in which Jake Davison, 22, killed five people including his mother and a toddler in Plymouth last week.

    After the attack, it emerged he had shown interest in the incel – or involuntary celibate – online culture fuelled by misogyny and abuse of women. Police are investigating whether this was a motive for the shootings. On Thursday, an inquest heard that he argued with his mother, for whom he expressed hatred online, before the killing spree.

    The new curriculum, to be fully introduced this year when state schools in England reopen, gives teachers wide flexibility to explore topics such as beneficial relationships as well as darker aspects such as coercive control and hatred of women.

    The government source said teachers should be encouraged to incorporate discussions about incel culture within the topics, with Williamson endorsing the “key point” that teachers had the flexibility allowing them to do so.

    A spokesperson for the government said: “Schools play a crucial role in helping pupils understand the world around them, both through the RSHE curriculum – which allows for a school-led approach on teaching pupils about a range of current issues, including on incel culture – but also through their safeguarding duties, supporting staff to identify young people that may be at risk of radicalisation.

    “The Prevent duty is also a vital part of our work to keep vulnerable pupils safe, and schools must take steps to protect them from being drawn into terrorism.

    “We work closely with schools and local authorities, who must ensure their staff, including social workers, are able to identify pupils most at risk and recognise where early intervention is needed.”

    Schools, universities and local authorities also have a statutory duty to protect students from “radicalisation and extremist influences”, the government noted.

    It comes as teachers in Scotland are also to undergo training to recognise signs of young people being radicalised by incel ideas. Education Scotland will hold a video seminar next month on “incel ideology and how it can present both on and offline” hosted by Dr Kaitlyn Regehr, a lecturer at the University of Kent who specialises in digital culture and its effects on gender and relationships, the Times reported.
     
    Now this sounds like a recipe for mega-bullying, "incel" taunts, and increased teen suicide if ever I heard one. After all, at least in white communities, pretty nearly all the boys will be "incel" at 14, and still a majority at 16. Not quite so much for the girls. I can just imagine the comments in the playground and the changing rooms after one of these lessons.

    This looks like second-generation War Against Boys.

    https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2000/05/the-war-against-boys/304659/


    Strangely enough I don't see any classes aimed at protecting girls from (mainly Muslim) grooming gangs, who have raped literally thousands of girls in England.

    "In August 2014 the Jay report concluded that an estimated 1,400 children,[15] had been sexually abused in Rotherham between 1997 and 2013 by predominantly British-Pakistani men (Kurdish and Kosovar men were also involved)."
     
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rotherham_child_sexual_exploitation_scandal
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Derby_child_sex_abuse_ring
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Huddersfield_grooming_gang
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manchester_child_sex_abuse_ring
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oxford_child_sex_abuse_ring
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newcastle_sex_abuse_ring
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rochdale_child_sex_abuse_ring
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telford_child_sexual_exploitation_scandal
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bristol_child_sex_abuse_ring
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peterborough_sex_abuse_case



    Some areas of the country with large minority populations are conspicuously absent from this roster - Birmingham and the Black Country for one.

    Replies: @Hangnail Hans, @The Alarmist, @Almost Missouri

    Everything that happens can and will be twisted into a justification for what wanted to do anyway. We see this everywhere–more than ever this past year and a half. And with the “grooming gangs” we see the ability they enjoy to ignore whatever doesnt fit their narratives. It’s in the nature of power itself, and they have nearly all of it.

    Imagine what they’d call “grooming gangs” if they were composed of white guys.

  87. @El Dato
    @Hangnail Hans

    Who are you and why are you Don Corleoneing over the Internet?

    Replies: @Dieter Kief, @Hangnail Hans

    Hmm I demand a determination from Reg C as to whether the word “Corleoneing” should have one ‘e’ or two.

  88. @AnotherDad
    @Achmed E. Newman


    As descendants of slave owners, we have been bred to sip mint juleps on the wrap-around porch, not spend countless hours and hours on the iSteve blog.
     
    Is Southern Comfort ok, instead?

    Not being a descendant of (American) slave owners--i'm sure if you go back far enough, i've got some solid slave owning blood--i wasn't raised to sip mint juleps. And really don't care for mint at all.

    But i can do a little sugar in my whiskey. So if i could have the SoCo pass, that would be great.

    I'll go pour myself a shot now, to celebrate my whiteness.

    Replies: @Tony massey, @Achmed E. Newman

    Got about 5 bottle of the stuff at home, A.D. I’m not a big drinker but found some deals at the Duty Free store that I no coulda refused.

    I am not a descendant of the Southern planter slave owners either, not that I write that for wokeman points. You are correct that so many of us (and us includes all colors and shapes) have ancestors that were slave owners if you go back a little farther than 1840s Low Country S. Carolina. Peak Stupidity elaborated a tad on this in Peak Stupidity’s Reparations Plan (a fiscally sound and very sensible one, if I do say so myself, cause no one else will…):

    It’s a real fixation, I tell you, as probably a majority of us living in America today have had some slave ancestors of various sorts. You take your Hispanics – the Indian blood that makes up 1/2 their heritage is from ancestors for whom perhaps being held in bondage was the least of their worries.*. People with that Slavic background, well, you’ve got some street cred already, “Slave-ic”, get it? You’ve got your leggy supermodels whose leggy supermodel ancestors could have easily been held as white sex slaves by, well, anybody, hell, who wouldn’t? Jews have had ancestors held by Egyptians, Hittites by Caananites, Arkites by Girgashites, Sinites by Hermaphrodites, and more recently, Hindu-H-1Bites by Microsoft Windites. That’s the big picture that many are not seeing.

    There’s moar!

  89. @Wilkey

    Cabral was already on the brink of burnout when her godmother died suddenly in June.
     
    I only took three days off when my father died, and two days when my brother died. But who among us doesn’t need to take a full week off for the death of our *godmother*?

    Perhaps the godmother was a fairy?

    Replies: @Elli

    My mother is dying. For four months I have been working 55 hour weeks covering for an injured coworker, 30 hours a week taking care of my mother or being with her in hospital, and dealing with another major crisis.

    After I collapsed in the hospital with my blood pressure through the roof and the rapid response team swarmed me, I called out of work for a week because that is the only thing I can step away from.

    And my immigrant, other ethnicity manager kept texting me, “I can’t find not one to cover, can you just do the mornings.” “Also Friday, there is not one.”

    So Ms Miller Littlejohn, this white woman knows exhaustion. And I have a woman of color trying to wring more out of me than I can physically give.

    And I will never be able to afford a six week sabbatical, or a six month stay in Florida. White privilege. Love it.

    • Thanks: YetAnotherAnon
    • Replies: @Goddard
    @Elli


    White privilege. Love it.
     
    Sorry to hear about your ordeal. Until recently hardship has been the lot of most whites. Our ancestors hewed a civilization out of a wilderness. Whites are returning to the wilderness, only this time, instead of a wilderness of forest and desert, we live in a wilderness of peoples of color.
  90. All these people live off the taxpayer right?

    • Replies: @Art Deco
    @Gordo

    If not in public sector positions, as contractors to public agencies or as private-sector employees / contractors who get work due to the compliance people in the corporation.

  91. Moe – “Listen up, everyone. I’m looking for Amanda Miller Littlejohn! Why can’t I find Amanda Miller Littlejohn?”
    Barney – “Maybe your standards are too high.”

  92. As I’ve said before, of course black women are exhausted, look at the amount of time they spend with others of their ilk.

    This line made me laugh

    “Black women have been groomed to overachieve,” she said. “We know how to boss up and get it done”

    If doing so little is overachieving what happens when they don’t get pressured to do so much by evil Whites?

    Oh, Right, Africa.

  93. @RichardTaylor
    The Covid Lockdown Hysteria Boys are also pretty lazy. Two years into this madness and no sign of rethinking by Sailer, Greg Cochran, Ron Unz or anybody else who pushed it.

    Fact: 78% of people hospitalized by Covid were obese.
    Fact: 40 % of people who died from Covid had diabetes.


    So yeah, fat, old, or gay, immune compromised people are under more threat from viruses. That's always been true. That's why two years into this most of us don't know anybody seriously affected by Covid in terms of health.

    https://www.healthline.com/health-news/40-percent-of-people-whove-died-from-covid-19-had-diabetes-researchers-say

    https://www.beckershospitalreview.com/public-health/78-of-covid-19-patients-hospitalized-in-the-us-overweight-or-obese-cdc-finds.html

    Replies: @Stan d Mute, @Jim Lahey, @Feryl, @Mike1, @Mr. Anon, @res

    You don’t know anyone who’s fat, old, gay, diabetic, or immune-compromised? Just the first two categories cover about half the US population. I know fat and/or old people who were hospitalized with COVID, some of whom died. Are these people not worthy of concern?

    • Replies: @Dieter Kief
    @Jim Lahey


    I know fat and/or old people who were hospitalized with COVID, some of whom died. Are these people not worthy of concern?
     
    I wholeheartedly agree with you.

    But what should follow from this insight? - That's to debate, methinks.

    The main problems in my eyes right now being those:

    a) CDC and others (the governments - worldwide) are not willing to publicly say this: The hesitancy to admit that yes: Being obese and or diabetic increases your could risk manyfold. So - please follow Big Joe (Rogan, that is) and lose weight and - exercise. Because that's clear too that a moderate exercise at least thrice a week does already wonders.

    b) with regard to those obese etc. who are in the high-risk group, everybody is nudged (or forced now in many places) to get the vaccine. Governments and health officials shy away from the fact, that the vaccination loses its benefits the younger and healthier you are and might even turn against herd immunity because as we know by now, antibodies from a real infection are stronger (last longer) than the vaccine. Plus - the medical risks for younger and healthy ones might well outweigh the gains from the vaccine.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

  94. Past: “I coached Battle in 2015.”

    Present: “I’ve hired Moxley as a consultant.”

    I can’t wait for the future update. Keep tabs, please, Steve.

  95. @J.Ross
    @Almost Missouri

    You know what this "coaching" is, is they have lunch at Panera together.

    Replies: @Bill Jones, @Almost Missouri

    Panera?
    Wasn’t that founded by Louis Kane Born Itze-Leib Schmuilowsky? and Ron Shaich, also of the same ethnicity?

    No black businesses that they’d care to frequent?

    Me neither.

  96. @Redneck farmer
    How many of these women have to support a boyfriend?

    Replies: @Old and Grumpy

    None. Professional men have been displaced by black and white women. The professional gals’ marriage and dating markets are empty. Settling for a lower class male is not much of an option for WWD (women with degrees.).

  97. @Elli
    @Wilkey

    My mother is dying. For four months I have been working 55 hour weeks covering for an injured coworker, 30 hours a week taking care of my mother or being with her in hospital, and dealing with another major crisis.

    After I collapsed in the hospital with my blood pressure through the roof and the rapid response team swarmed me, I called out of work for a week because that is the only thing I can step away from.

    And my immigrant, other ethnicity manager kept texting me, "I can't find not one to cover, can you just do the mornings." "Also Friday, there is not one."

    So Ms Miller Littlejohn, this white woman knows exhaustion. And I have a woman of color trying to wring more out of me than I can physically give.

    And I will never be able to afford a six week sabbatical, or a six month stay in Florida. White privilege. Love it.

    Replies: @Goddard

    White privilege. Love it.

    Sorry to hear about your ordeal. Until recently hardship has been the lot of most whites. Our ancestors hewed a civilization out of a wilderness. Whites are returning to the wilderness, only this time, instead of a wilderness of forest and desert, we live in a wilderness of peoples of color.

  98. @RichardTaylor
    The Covid Lockdown Hysteria Boys are also pretty lazy. Two years into this madness and no sign of rethinking by Sailer, Greg Cochran, Ron Unz or anybody else who pushed it.

    Fact: 78% of people hospitalized by Covid were obese.
    Fact: 40 % of people who died from Covid had diabetes.


    So yeah, fat, old, or gay, immune compromised people are under more threat from viruses. That's always been true. That's why two years into this most of us don't know anybody seriously affected by Covid in terms of health.

    https://www.healthline.com/health-news/40-percent-of-people-whove-died-from-covid-19-had-diabetes-researchers-say

    https://www.beckershospitalreview.com/public-health/78-of-covid-19-patients-hospitalized-in-the-us-overweight-or-obese-cdc-finds.html

    Replies: @Stan d Mute, @Jim Lahey, @Feryl, @Mike1, @Mr. Anon, @res

    Well, there’s never been a better time to be a busybody and a scold. We’re back to Victorian norms of shaming people for having fun and relaxing. And paging Ted Kaczynski and Ed Dutton, but covid hysteria has really opened the neuroses floodgates on unhappy Leftists and spiteful mutants who have never had more socially acceptable opportunities to drag normal people into their life-loathing misery. Why, even venturing outside can give you a “life-threatening” disease.

    Also, we’ve got things backwards because in a normal society it’s what affects children that takes priority. But covid overwhelmingly hits people over 50 the hardest. A normal flu season is quite a bit more dangerous to kids than covid is, but pre-covid we never shut down all that many pre-schools and elementary schools to protect kids from the flu.

    • Agree: RichardTaylor
    • Replies: @AnotherDad
    @Feryl


    Also, we’ve got things backwards because in a normal society it’s what affects children that takes priority. But covid overwhelmingly hits people over 50 the hardest. A normal flu season is quite a bit more dangerous to kids than covid is, but pre-covid we never shut down all that many pre-schools and elementary schools to protect kids from the flu.
     
    Agreed. To be fair, traditional societies weren't in a society wide panic about disease knocking off babies and young children, as disease was doing this all the time. Fertility was high, replacements came.

    But the traditional West was properly "future" oriented. People wanted to continue their people and culture and most highly valued having heirs to turn their family, nation, civilization over to.

    What they most certainly were not in a panic about would be a disease knocking off the old and sick which was utterly routine, even amongst the highest classes, the natural order and no threat or stress on the society at all. They properly understood that the young and health and productive were the ones who mattered, who would carry their families and nation forward.

    This Covid-19 thing had it occurred 500 years ago would likely be utterly unremarked upon. A bunch of old sick folks got pushed off the edge. Maybe "the weird sick that made one lose one's nose and tongue". A historical footnote at best. Not even "the epidemic of 1520".

    Replies: @anonymous coward

  99. @Jenner Ickham Errican
    @Thomas


    [Black women have been] carrying the water making up for the knuckleheadedness of the menfolk of their race for a long time.
     
    They’re also responsible for birthing babies who become ‘men’. It can’t all be due to rapes, therefore Black women deserve much of the blame for the existence of Black men. The “gap” that should be closed is their thigh gap. Professional Black women / TV trannies really need to impart that message to fecund downmarket sistas:

    “Tie them tubes, then get some self-care down time, get yo bussy rekt, whatever—ain’t no chyle gonna crimp yo roll, gurrrlll”

    https://media-cldnry.s-nbcnews.com/image/upload/msnbc/2016_12/455001/silcastphoto.jpeg

    Replies: @Barnard, @Thomas

    It amazes me that people still believe the myths that the problems with the black family are entirely the fault of black men. The propaganda must be strong enough and the average person must not have that much direct interaction with black women to make it still work. The women described in this article are typical of black women in America today. They tend to be less attractive than women of other races and much more self absorbed. Just because black women keep their children for 18 years, many times primarily for the financial benefits of doing so, doesn’t make them family orientated victims of black men.

  100. @Thomas
    All your snark notwithstanding, Steve, I'm not entirely unsympathetic. Black women have a narrower off-ramp from the working world than women of any other race do. They've been carrying the water making up for the knuckleheadedness of the menfolk of their race for a long time. And many fewer of them will ever get the opportunity to "lean out" and let a male breadwinner take the lead.

    Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican, @AnotherDad, @Giant Duck

    It would be more sympathetic if the article were written from that standpoint – that black women are exhausted because they carry too much of the burden within the black community when compared to black men. But it isn’t. It’s written from the standpoint that black women work harder, and are still treated unfairly, by whites.

    Grieving and exhausted, she shared her need to take a step back at work. She says her boss, a White woman, explicitly told her she needed to push through anyway.

    “I was exhausted, but expectations for me in my role were very different as a Black woman,” she said. “And I had [other] White female colleagues tell me that.”

    She left the job a few months later.

    According to Reisha Moxley, a Nashville-based clinical psychologist who did her doctoral research on high-achieving Black women working in predominantly White spaces, such microaggressions are common, and offer another explanation for why Black women are clamoring for rest. (I’ve hired Moxley as a consultant).

    • Replies: @Angharad
    @Giant Duck

    I once worked for Dunn and Bradstreet. I had a group of co-worker pals. We'd eat lunch together. I Black woman in this group was up for a promotion. It was a two-fer. She was Black and a woman. She was angry about this because she was a very smart cookie, and she knew she wasn't being promoted for her ability, but for the Diversity Checkmarks she provided. The funny thing was that every one else in our little Frens Group was White (one girl was half White and half Mexican) and we all told her to take the promotion. Don't worry about the reasons. It meant more money and more opportunities. She didn't. She quit and went elsewhere.

  101. @Abolish_public_education
    Somehow I don’t think that this lady is the sort of coach highly sought after by Tiger Moms.

    Public high schools spend a lot of money on psychologist-guidance counselors. A complete waste. They also double-down on the racist idea that academically underachieving students will do better when they’re assigned to counselors who, uh, look like them.

    Increasingly, private highs try to emulate the publics, though in more trendy fashion. They pay for “life coaches”. Tuition-paying customers don’t seem to mind.

    Replies: @kicktheroos

    Why are you people constantly involving asians with your fight against the blacks, blacks who you gave your dna to, your violent culture to, blacks are the way they are is your peoples fault(british) , we dont to have anything do with black and white problems so keep us out of it.

  102. No. Don’t. Stop. Come back, what will we do without your failure to understand basic spoken English, perpetual tardiness and failures to meet deadlines, illiterate e-mails, poor attitudes, week long colds that make you call off sick, and extended sick leaves.

    Managers everywhere would pop champagne bottles if they all went on permanent sabbatical. They contribute nothing.

  103. @RichardTaylor
    The Covid Lockdown Hysteria Boys are also pretty lazy. Two years into this madness and no sign of rethinking by Sailer, Greg Cochran, Ron Unz or anybody else who pushed it.

    Fact: 78% of people hospitalized by Covid were obese.
    Fact: 40 % of people who died from Covid had diabetes.


    So yeah, fat, old, or gay, immune compromised people are under more threat from viruses. That's always been true. That's why two years into this most of us don't know anybody seriously affected by Covid in terms of health.

    https://www.healthline.com/health-news/40-percent-of-people-whove-died-from-covid-19-had-diabetes-researchers-say

    https://www.beckershospitalreview.com/public-health/78-of-covid-19-patients-hospitalized-in-the-us-overweight-or-obese-cdc-finds.html

    Replies: @Stan d Mute, @Jim Lahey, @Feryl, @Mike1, @Mr. Anon, @res

    I took it incredibly seriously and I was wrong.

    • Thanks: RichardTaylor
  104. As I have commented repeatedly, articles like this are essentially telling employers black women may be more trouble than they are worth if hired. It would take more introspection that women like this author may possess, but it’s entirely possible that employers are exhausted by black women.

  105. @YetAnotherAnon
    OT - it looks as if the Incel Menace could be taught in English schools!

    https://www.theguardian.com/education/2021/aug/20/teachers-given-flexibility-to-tackle-incel-culture-in-lessons

    Teachers can help counteract the rise of the “incel” movement and the dangers of misogyny with school lessons on respect for women and healthy relationships, ministers believe.

    A government source said that Gavin Williamson, the education secretary, expects teachers to be able to tackle the risks from incel culture through the relationships, sex and health education (RSHE) curriculum within schools.

    It follows concerns sparked by Britain’s worst mass shooting in over a decade, in which Jake Davison, 22, killed five people including his mother and a toddler in Plymouth last week.

    After the attack, it emerged he had shown interest in the incel – or involuntary celibate – online culture fuelled by misogyny and abuse of women. Police are investigating whether this was a motive for the shootings. On Thursday, an inquest heard that he argued with his mother, for whom he expressed hatred online, before the killing spree.

    The new curriculum, to be fully introduced this year when state schools in England reopen, gives teachers wide flexibility to explore topics such as beneficial relationships as well as darker aspects such as coercive control and hatred of women.

    The government source said teachers should be encouraged to incorporate discussions about incel culture within the topics, with Williamson endorsing the “key point” that teachers had the flexibility allowing them to do so.

    A spokesperson for the government said: “Schools play a crucial role in helping pupils understand the world around them, both through the RSHE curriculum – which allows for a school-led approach on teaching pupils about a range of current issues, including on incel culture – but also through their safeguarding duties, supporting staff to identify young people that may be at risk of radicalisation.

    “The Prevent duty is also a vital part of our work to keep vulnerable pupils safe, and schools must take steps to protect them from being drawn into terrorism.

    “We work closely with schools and local authorities, who must ensure their staff, including social workers, are able to identify pupils most at risk and recognise where early intervention is needed.”

    Schools, universities and local authorities also have a statutory duty to protect students from “radicalisation and extremist influences”, the government noted.

    It comes as teachers in Scotland are also to undergo training to recognise signs of young people being radicalised by incel ideas. Education Scotland will hold a video seminar next month on “incel ideology and how it can present both on and offline” hosted by Dr Kaitlyn Regehr, a lecturer at the University of Kent who specialises in digital culture and its effects on gender and relationships, the Times reported.
     
    Now this sounds like a recipe for mega-bullying, "incel" taunts, and increased teen suicide if ever I heard one. After all, at least in white communities, pretty nearly all the boys will be "incel" at 14, and still a majority at 16. Not quite so much for the girls. I can just imagine the comments in the playground and the changing rooms after one of these lessons.

    This looks like second-generation War Against Boys.

    https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2000/05/the-war-against-boys/304659/


    Strangely enough I don't see any classes aimed at protecting girls from (mainly Muslim) grooming gangs, who have raped literally thousands of girls in England.

    "In August 2014 the Jay report concluded that an estimated 1,400 children,[15] had been sexually abused in Rotherham between 1997 and 2013 by predominantly British-Pakistani men (Kurdish and Kosovar men were also involved)."
     
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rotherham_child_sexual_exploitation_scandal
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Derby_child_sex_abuse_ring
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Huddersfield_grooming_gang
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manchester_child_sex_abuse_ring
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oxford_child_sex_abuse_ring
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newcastle_sex_abuse_ring
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rochdale_child_sex_abuse_ring
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telford_child_sexual_exploitation_scandal
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bristol_child_sex_abuse_ring
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peterborough_sex_abuse_case



    Some areas of the country with large minority populations are conspicuously absent from this roster - Birmingham and the Black Country for one.

    Replies: @Hangnail Hans, @The Alarmist, @Almost Missouri

    Maybe they should hire prostitutes or, if that seems too unseemly, require the teachers (is there a difference?) to sleep with the students on a rotating basis. Masked, of course.

    That’s gotta be a surefire way to achieve Zero Incel.

  106. @bomag
    @Jus' Sayin'...


    She was previously convicted of forgery in 2008 in Florida and was arrested in 2002 for writing a bad check, court records showed.
     
    Drifting into George Floyd territory. Should have a statue up and glorified in the near future.

    Replies: @The Alarmist

    Who gets to kneel on her neck until she is dead? You want the Saint George gibs, you gotta pay the Saint George price.

    • LOL: bomag
  107. @Dan Smith
    WTF is an executive coach?

    Replies: @Currahee, @Gary in Gramercy, @Reg Cæsar

    Well it’s kind of like a frolic facilitator except different in unique and basically unfathomable ways known only blackety-black females.

    • LOL: The Griffins
  108. @Polistra
    @bomag

    If you've ever worked in a real office you know full well that the people who work best and hardest, and those who make a lot of noise about how hard they work, are--shall we say--two discrete groups.

    Replies: @The Alarmist, @Neuday, @aj54

    … those who make a lot of noise about how hard they work, are–shall we say–two discrete groups.

    When I moved to Europe a while back, I had two reports in the middle-office who assumed I didn’t understand the language, so they spent the morning moving pieces of paper from one stack on their desk to another while they yacked on the phone all morning to their friends. They repeated the process in the other direction after lunch. They also didn’t realise that I observed that they “worked” to the same time every night, racking up all sorts of overtime because they had figured out that the system automatically logged them out at 8pm if they didn’t punch out. My boss at the time, a rather dumb but political European told me they were the pillars of the bank or some bullshit like that, as evidenced by all their activity and long hours.

    Too many people are activity oriented and not results oriented.

  109. @J.Ross
    @Almost Missouri

    You know what this "coaching" is, is they have lunch at Panera together.

    Replies: @Bill Jones, @Almost Missouri

    Probably.

    But they bill each other for that?

    Then they’re just swapping \$100 bills, plus the obligation to send another \$20 to Uncle Sam.

    • Replies: @Anon
    @Almost Missouri

    Then they’re just swapping $100 bills, plus the obligation to send another $20 to Uncle Sam.

    Nope, taxes are for Whipipo.

  110. @Jenner Ickham Errican
    @Thomas


    [Black women have been] carrying the water making up for the knuckleheadedness of the menfolk of their race for a long time.
     
    They’re also responsible for birthing babies who become ‘men’. It can’t all be due to rapes, therefore Black women deserve much of the blame for the existence of Black men. The “gap” that should be closed is their thigh gap. Professional Black women / TV trannies really need to impart that message to fecund downmarket sistas:

    “Tie them tubes, then get some self-care down time, get yo bussy rekt, whatever—ain’t no chyle gonna crimp yo roll, gurrrlll”

    https://media-cldnry.s-nbcnews.com/image/upload/msnbc/2016_12/455001/silcastphoto.jpeg

    Replies: @Barnard, @Thomas

    Perhaps. I’m very much of the opinion though that girls and young women need a strong father figure in their lives to develop into proper and responsible ladies. I say this as both the father of a daughter as well as a man who in my earlier life encountered and took advantage of the prevalence of “daddy issues” out there.

    In the case of black women, the men throughout their lives have a high likelihood of being either absent or abusive. And so the men they produce turn out no better. It’s a vicious cycle.

    • Replies: @The Griffins
    @Thomas

    Wow!

    Sad story, bro.

    Who cares?

    Replies: @Tony massey

  111. If white guys were only exposed to a ruthless meritocracy, we could understand the exhaustion of a 40 year old executive branding coach. I guess the time spent looking for work between layoffs was a sort of rest, now that I look back on it.

  112. @Dan Smith
    WTF is an executive coach?

    Replies: @Currahee, @Gary in Gramercy, @Reg Cæsar

    Those who can’t do, teach.

  113. I wish Kwakweekwa would take a rest from being a fatherless felon factory.

    • LOL: The Griffins
  114. @YetAnotherAnon
    OT - it looks as if the Incel Menace could be taught in English schools!

    https://www.theguardian.com/education/2021/aug/20/teachers-given-flexibility-to-tackle-incel-culture-in-lessons

    Teachers can help counteract the rise of the “incel” movement and the dangers of misogyny with school lessons on respect for women and healthy relationships, ministers believe.

    A government source said that Gavin Williamson, the education secretary, expects teachers to be able to tackle the risks from incel culture through the relationships, sex and health education (RSHE) curriculum within schools.

    It follows concerns sparked by Britain’s worst mass shooting in over a decade, in which Jake Davison, 22, killed five people including his mother and a toddler in Plymouth last week.

    After the attack, it emerged he had shown interest in the incel – or involuntary celibate – online culture fuelled by misogyny and abuse of women. Police are investigating whether this was a motive for the shootings. On Thursday, an inquest heard that he argued with his mother, for whom he expressed hatred online, before the killing spree.

    The new curriculum, to be fully introduced this year when state schools in England reopen, gives teachers wide flexibility to explore topics such as beneficial relationships as well as darker aspects such as coercive control and hatred of women.

    The government source said teachers should be encouraged to incorporate discussions about incel culture within the topics, with Williamson endorsing the “key point” that teachers had the flexibility allowing them to do so.

    A spokesperson for the government said: “Schools play a crucial role in helping pupils understand the world around them, both through the RSHE curriculum – which allows for a school-led approach on teaching pupils about a range of current issues, including on incel culture – but also through their safeguarding duties, supporting staff to identify young people that may be at risk of radicalisation.

    “The Prevent duty is also a vital part of our work to keep vulnerable pupils safe, and schools must take steps to protect them from being drawn into terrorism.

    “We work closely with schools and local authorities, who must ensure their staff, including social workers, are able to identify pupils most at risk and recognise where early intervention is needed.”

    Schools, universities and local authorities also have a statutory duty to protect students from “radicalisation and extremist influences”, the government noted.

    It comes as teachers in Scotland are also to undergo training to recognise signs of young people being radicalised by incel ideas. Education Scotland will hold a video seminar next month on “incel ideology and how it can present both on and offline” hosted by Dr Kaitlyn Regehr, a lecturer at the University of Kent who specialises in digital culture and its effects on gender and relationships, the Times reported.
     
    Now this sounds like a recipe for mega-bullying, "incel" taunts, and increased teen suicide if ever I heard one. After all, at least in white communities, pretty nearly all the boys will be "incel" at 14, and still a majority at 16. Not quite so much for the girls. I can just imagine the comments in the playground and the changing rooms after one of these lessons.

    This looks like second-generation War Against Boys.

    https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2000/05/the-war-against-boys/304659/


    Strangely enough I don't see any classes aimed at protecting girls from (mainly Muslim) grooming gangs, who have raped literally thousands of girls in England.

    "In August 2014 the Jay report concluded that an estimated 1,400 children,[15] had been sexually abused in Rotherham between 1997 and 2013 by predominantly British-Pakistani men (Kurdish and Kosovar men were also involved)."
     
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rotherham_child_sexual_exploitation_scandal
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Derby_child_sex_abuse_ring
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Huddersfield_grooming_gang
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manchester_child_sex_abuse_ring
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oxford_child_sex_abuse_ring
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newcastle_sex_abuse_ring
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rochdale_child_sex_abuse_ring
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telford_child_sexual_exploitation_scandal
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bristol_child_sex_abuse_ring
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peterborough_sex_abuse_case



    Some areas of the country with large minority populations are conspicuously absent from this roster - Birmingham and the Black Country for one.

    Replies: @Hangnail Hans, @The Alarmist, @Almost Missouri

    parked by Britain’s worst mass shooting in over a decade

    Weird how despite 100% gun control, they keep having mass shootings.

    But on the real point, the Man from I.N.C.E.L., one has to wonder why when the government’s response to every other violent grievance is naked appeasement, the response to Involuntary Celibates is to … make it even harder to get a date.

    • Agree: YetAnotherAnon, sayless
    • Replies: @usNthem
    @Almost Missouri

    It’s almost like appeasement, or feeding the animals, isn’t going to result in more of the same kinds of behaviors - it’s an amazing coincidence.

  115. Black women need to focus on raising sons who will, in the words of Jason Riley, “pull up their pants, take care of their children and stop shooting at one another”. And then they wouldn’t be so exhausted trying to put food on the table and be both parents at the same time.

  116. Tweaking twice as hard as everyone else isn’t the way? Looks live I’ve been doing it all wrong. I’ll start working harder first thing Monday.

  117. @Almost Missouri
    @YetAnotherAnon


    parked by Britain’s worst mass shooting in over a decade
     
    Weird how despite 100% gun control, they keep having mass shootings.

    But on the real point, the Man from I.N.C.E.L., one has to wonder why when the government's response to every other violent grievance is naked appeasement, the response to Involuntary Celibates is to ... make it even harder to get a date.

    Replies: @usNthem

    It’s almost like appeasement, or feeding the animals, isn’t going to result in more of the same kinds of behaviors – it’s an amazing coincidence.

    • Agree: The Griffins
  118. @Thomas
    @Jenner Ickham Errican

    Perhaps. I'm very much of the opinion though that girls and young women need a strong father figure in their lives to develop into proper and responsible ladies. I say this as both the father of a daughter as well as a man who in my earlier life encountered and took advantage of the prevalence of "daddy issues" out there.

    In the case of black women, the men throughout their lives have a high likelihood of being either absent or abusive. And so the men they produce turn out no better. It's a vicious cycle.

    Replies: @The Griffins

    Wow!

    Sad story, bro.

    Who cares?

    • Replies: @Tony massey
    @The Griffins

    Ya know I've never "fed the animals". My hope is only to take photos and leave only foot prints.
    But it's like this; in numerous places I've been(too many National parks to mention) people ALWAYS feed the animals. ALWAYS.
    I find that i actually prefer this. It's cute when I'm sitting around some rest area and wild animals start begging for food. I've seen bears do it. Lots of deer.
    I read somewhere that game Forrest officials have been reporting all over that even the wildlife is getting obese. Go figure. They're all getting fed. Might as well take the signs saying don't feed'em down. One less eye sore.
    So...yeh it's too damn late to stop feeding them. I can only imagine how they would react after a few days.

  119. If you know the context of these exhaustion grievances, you can choose to either find ’em 1) unwillingly self-explanatory and/or 2) quite funny too, actually. – We’re not only living in strange but also – may I omit it – – funny times. – This reminds me of Johann Jakob Christoffel von Grimmelshausen who wrote the in parts hilariously funny novel Simplicius Simplizissimus – – – – about the Thirty-Year War (1618 – 1648) – in which served (and fought) from being nine years old through his 29th year. Grimmelshausen’s motto was, to – always look at the bright side of life. – Btw. – the English Wikipedia entry is quite wrong. – Astonishing. This is the most important 17th-century German novelist.

  120. • Replies: @Gary in Gramercy
    @Eric Ruttencutter

    Imagine the strength of the evidence against Kim Gardner that Missouri's chief disciplinary counsel must have to dare take action and call Gardner to account. In most states, a black big-city D.A. would be effectively above the law.

    If the allegations against Gardner are true, she ought to succeed Michael Nifong (Durham, NC, district attorney who prosecuted the Duke lacrosse players for rape -- absent any real evidence of their guilt -- and was eventually disbarred and jailed for his efforts) as the poster child for prosecutorial misconduct.

    Replies: @Polistra

  121. @Polistra
    @bomag

    If you've ever worked in a real office you know full well that the people who work best and hardest, and those who make a lot of noise about how hard they work, are--shall we say--two discrete groups.

    Replies: @The Alarmist, @Neuday, @aj54

    One of the things I learned in White Supremacy class was that you should find a job that suits you. And in Advanced White Supremacy class I learned that with enough effort you should gain mastery of your job to the point that it shouldn’t really feel like work anymore; it’s just what you “do”. Even when I was young and had crappy jobs at the end of the day or week I could see the results of my efforts, and that, in addition to a well-deserved paycheck, provided a sense of satisfaction. Providing for my woman and eventually children and spending time with them on the weekends made the work worth it (something else I learned in White Supremacy class).

    I’m in IT so while I’m productive I don’t consider it to be real work. Every single day I see truckers pulling triple-trailers, guys on utility lines in crappy weather, farmers on a tractor with the sun, guys on their knees stocking shelves as fast as they can, middle-aged people who have to be on their feet all day long, and I think that’s real work. Only a Black woman can combine that 85-IQ with female self-obsession to complain about how exhausted she is talking and bullshitting for a living.

    • Thanks: Bill Jones, bomag
    • Replies: @Jack Armstrong
    @Neuday

    BMI>40 x IQ<90 = ABW

  122. @Buffalo Joe
    Hourly worker, when given the option, will work overtime to increase their paycheck. These black women all wanted to be executives but not put in the hours. How good are you at your job if you need a coach?

    Replies: @bomag, @Hannah Katz

    So does someone with an IQ of 75 have to work twice as hard as someone with an IQ of 150 to get the same job done? Or it could be 85 vs. 110. They are not usually very good at math.

  123. @Veteran Aryan
    What could possibly be more exhausting than battling racist stereotypes of laziness? Once these gals are good and rested they can attack the stereotype of angry black women next.

    Replies: @Bill Jones

    Once these gals are good and rested they can attack the stereotype of angry black women next.

    Because these stereotypes of angry black women really piss them off.

  124. @Cortes
    “Pour me a grape soda, sweetie. I’m worn out. I’ll be on the chaise longue on the terrace.”

    Replies: @Jim Bob Lassiter

    While you’re at it, clean up that nigger mess I made out of the data entry sequencing assignments for the ladieswear marketing project.

    • LOL: Tony massey
  125. I’m just gonna leave this here:

    https://wtop.com/montgomery-county/2021/08/first-latina-high-school-principal-in-montgomery-county-prepares-for-new-school-year/#:~:text=Alicia%20Deeny%2C%20the%20new%20Richard,the%20Montgomery%20County%20school%20system.

    “Deeny grew up in Montgomery County and is a product of the county’s schools. She grew up speaking English and Spanish; her mother, who is Puerto Rican, instilled pride in the family’s heritage. “I only spoke Spanish to my mom, even though my mother was actually an English major in Puerto Rico and speaks beautiful English,” Deeny said.”

    Translation: She is 100 percent “white”, grew up in a rich white area, and her mother (code: “beautiful English”) was likely from the most upper crust of PR (and likely a White Spaniard herself)…nevermind that this woman’s father is a regular White guy, and given that being PR’can is typically based upon being from the Island (or very close culturally via NYC), this woman’s claim is a major stretch. This is like having someone in charge of a Hee-Haw reboot because, despite being born and raised in Oregon, the person’s mom is from Tennessee and often made grits.

    She even leaves a sample of her speaking Spanish in the article (by design). It sounds like her Spanish is school learned, not native. Nothing wrong with that, but she’s no more “Latina” than many Americans with Spanish ancestry who also speak Spanish (learned).

  126. @Saira Rao
    Have we normalized white male terrorism? A man pulled up to the Capitol today & threatened that he had a bomb. Hardly anyone is talking about it. White families: what trauma are you not addressing? What healing are you avoiding? Everyone loses to white supremacy, including y’all.

    When white Americans are being honest (not often), they'll admit they're embarrassed by how foolish America looks re: Afghanistan.

    Not horrified by our infliction of death & destruction on Afghan people - and our own military.
    It's akin to social embarrassment.
    That's it.

    Replies: @Polistra, @J.Ross, @Forbes, @anon

    A guy made a threat, news at 11. Right.

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
    @Forbes


    @Saira Rao

    A guy made a threat, news at 11. Right.
     
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9U4Ha9HQvMo
  127. 12 -14 hours a day at a phony baloney job–sounds like a real heavy lift.

  128. @Feryl
    @RichardTaylor

    Well, there's never been a better time to be a busybody and a scold. We're back to Victorian norms of shaming people for having fun and relaxing. And paging Ted Kaczynski and Ed Dutton, but covid hysteria has really opened the neuroses floodgates on unhappy Leftists and spiteful mutants who have never had more socially acceptable opportunities to drag normal people into their life-loathing misery. Why, even venturing outside can give you a "life-threatening" disease.

    Also, we've got things backwards because in a normal society it's what affects children that takes priority. But covid overwhelmingly hits people over 50 the hardest. A normal flu season is quite a bit more dangerous to kids than covid is, but pre-covid we never shut down all that many pre-schools and elementary schools to protect kids from the flu.

    Replies: @AnotherDad

    Also, we’ve got things backwards because in a normal society it’s what affects children that takes priority. But covid overwhelmingly hits people over 50 the hardest. A normal flu season is quite a bit more dangerous to kids than covid is, but pre-covid we never shut down all that many pre-schools and elementary schools to protect kids from the flu.

    Agreed. To be fair, traditional societies weren’t in a society wide panic about disease knocking off babies and young children, as disease was doing this all the time. Fertility was high, replacements came.

    But the traditional West was properly “future” oriented. People wanted to continue their people and culture and most highly valued having heirs to turn their family, nation, civilization over to.

    What they most certainly were not in a panic about would be a disease knocking off the old and sick which was utterly routine, even amongst the highest classes, the natural order and no threat or stress on the society at all. They properly understood that the young and health and productive were the ones who mattered, who would carry their families and nation forward.

    This Covid-19 thing had it occurred 500 years ago would likely be utterly unremarked upon. A bunch of old sick folks got pushed off the edge. Maybe “the weird sick that made one lose one’s nose and tongue”. A historical footnote at best. Not even “the epidemic of 1520”.

    • Agree: usNthem
    • Replies: @anonymous coward
    @AnotherDad


    This Covid-19 thing had it occurred 500 years ago would likely be utterly unremarked upon.
     
    This Covid-19 thing had it occurred 2 years ago would likely be utterly unremarked upon. (If the media and the state weren't purposefully creating a crisis.)
  129. @Mr. Anon

    In my business as an executive branding coach,

    ............................................

    One such woman is Amber Cabral, who runs a boutique diversity and inclusion firm based in Atlanta and who I am currently coaching.
     
    Does this exist anywhere else in nature? A parasite that feeds on other parasites?

    Replies: @Old Prude, @Ancient Briton, @kaganovitch

    Hyperparasites [Wiki]

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
    @Ancient Briton


    Hyperparasites [Wiki]
     
    Thanks. "Hyperparasitic" sounds like a could adjective for a lot of our economy.
  130. @RichardTaylor
    The Covid Lockdown Hysteria Boys are also pretty lazy. Two years into this madness and no sign of rethinking by Sailer, Greg Cochran, Ron Unz or anybody else who pushed it.

    Fact: 78% of people hospitalized by Covid were obese.
    Fact: 40 % of people who died from Covid had diabetes.


    So yeah, fat, old, or gay, immune compromised people are under more threat from viruses. That's always been true. That's why two years into this most of us don't know anybody seriously affected by Covid in terms of health.

    https://www.healthline.com/health-news/40-percent-of-people-whove-died-from-covid-19-had-diabetes-researchers-say

    https://www.beckershospitalreview.com/public-health/78-of-covid-19-patients-hospitalized-in-the-us-overweight-or-obese-cdc-finds.html

    Replies: @Stan d Mute, @Jim Lahey, @Feryl, @Mike1, @Mr. Anon, @res

    The Covid Lockdown Hysteria Boys are also pretty lazy. Two years into this madness and no sign of rethinking by Sailer, Greg Cochran, Ron Unz or anybody else who pushed it.

    In a year or two, I expect to see one of Ron’s articles beginning:

    “I never paid much attention to the whole COVID thing, busy as I was with my various coding projects…………….”

  131. @Forbes
    @Saira Rao

    A guy made a threat, news at 11. Right.

    Replies: @Mr. Anon

    A guy made a threat, news at 11. Right.

    • LOL: bomag
  132. @Saira Rao
    Have we normalized white male terrorism? A man pulled up to the Capitol today & threatened that he had a bomb. Hardly anyone is talking about it. White families: what trauma are you not addressing? What healing are you avoiding? Everyone loses to white supremacy, including y’all.

    When white Americans are being honest (not often), they'll admit they're embarrassed by how foolish America looks re: Afghanistan.

    Not horrified by our infliction of death & destruction on Afghan people - and our own military.
    It's akin to social embarrassment.
    That's it.

    Replies: @Polistra, @J.Ross, @Forbes, @anon

    Have we normalized white male terrorism?

    No, but we have normalized false flags carried out by crisis actors.

    Why do you ask?

  133. @Eric Ruttencutter
    https://www.stltoday.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/disciplinary-hearing-for-st-louis-circuit-attorney-set-in-february-2022/article_ac05e6ff-bfd3-5ff6-995d-b1c7a1eea641.html. St. Louis Circuit Attorney needs a rest, too

    Replies: @Gary in Gramercy

    Imagine the strength of the evidence against Kim Gardner that Missouri’s chief disciplinary counsel must have to dare take action and call Gardner to account. In most states, a black big-city D.A. would be effectively above the law.

    If the allegations against Gardner are true, she ought to succeed Michael Nifong (Durham, NC, district attorney who prosecuted the Duke lacrosse players for rape — absent any real evidence of their guilt — and was eventually disbarred and jailed for his efforts) as the poster child for prosecutorial misconduct.

    • Replies: @Polistra
    @Gary in Gramercy

    Nifong: Jailed for 22 hours, it bears repeating.

  134. @Stan d Mute
    @RichardTaylor


    So yeah, fat, old, or gay, immune compromised people are under more threat from viruses.
     
    Wait, if this is true, that means that fat, old, gay, and immune compromised people are likely to die sooner than fit healthy people. We might be on to something significant here Rich. I can see a Nobel in Medicine and another one for the unstated discovery that systemic racism and white supremacy are the underlying cause.

    Replies: @Dieter Kief

    I can see a Nobel in Medicine and another one for the unstated discovery that systemic racism and white supremacy are the underlying cause.

    Oh so – a double burger: Nobel in Medicine and the Peace Price on top of it! Seems about right.

  135. @Fluesterwitz
    @Anon

    What kind of non-black person would be a “frolic facilitator”? Jeffrey Epstein?

    Replies: @Jack Armstrong

    Paul Lynde?

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Jack Armstrong



    What kind of non-black person would be a “frolic facilitator”?
     
    Paul Lynde?
     
    Alan Sues!






    On the other hand, the band in the beer tent across the street just finished up "Fat-Bottomed Girls". Farrokh of Stone Town might do.
  136. @Neuday
    @Polistra

    One of the things I learned in White Supremacy class was that you should find a job that suits you. And in Advanced White Supremacy class I learned that with enough effort you should gain mastery of your job to the point that it shouldn't really feel like work anymore; it's just what you "do". Even when I was young and had crappy jobs at the end of the day or week I could see the results of my efforts, and that, in addition to a well-deserved paycheck, provided a sense of satisfaction. Providing for my woman and eventually children and spending time with them on the weekends made the work worth it (something else I learned in White Supremacy class).

    I'm in IT so while I'm productive I don't consider it to be real work. Every single day I see truckers pulling triple-trailers, guys on utility lines in crappy weather, farmers on a tractor with the sun, guys on their knees stocking shelves as fast as they can, middle-aged people who have to be on their feet all day long, and I think that's real work. Only a Black woman can combine that 85-IQ with female self-obsession to complain about how exhausted she is talking and bullshitting for a living.

    Replies: @Jack Armstrong

    BMI>40 x IQ<90 = ABW

  137. @Dieter Kief
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Mod. Achmed - let me throw in a thought please: Epistemic trespasser is a term, that - biologist or some such Dr. Angela Rasmussen uses to diss people who are just having a glance at her subject and claim to make deep remarks even though. - You'd have to actually look into the examples she gives for epistemic trespassing, to decide whether she is right in being ironic/sarcastic about those who do contradict her claims - or not.
    The expression itself is - by and large - rather playful than midwitty, I'd hold.

    Replies: @Desiderius

    We all know those for which it’s no joking matter at all, and given that men have the flatter distribution of epistemic capacity and co-evolved with the present institutions I know which way I’d bet, but that would be sexist but the agreed definition so I’d have to know the Dr. better to say one way or the other in her case.

    • Replies: @Dieter Kief
    @Desiderius

    Beware though: It is sexist if you bet against women or some such because betting is a phallocratic act representing the suppressive powers of the cis-normative patriarchy.

    Replies: @Desiderius

    , @res
    @Desiderius

    This 2018 paper gives a definition (amazing what can be published these days).
    https://academic.oup.com/mind/article-abstract/128/510/367/4850765


    Abstract

    Epistemic trespassers judge matters outside their field of expertise. Trespassing is ubiquitous in this age of interdisciplinary research and recognizing this will require us to be more intellectually modest.
     

    More detail at the start of the full text.

    Epistemic trespassers are thinkers who have competence or expertise to make good judgments in one field, but move to another field where they lack competence—and pass judgment nevertheless. We should doubt that trespassers are reliable judges in fields where they are outsiders.
     
    It is interesting that he chose Linus Pauling for his first example. I would argue that Pauling's Nobel Prize for his peace work was an example of successful epistemic trespassing. It seems that slid right by the author.

    I find it fascinating how highly some people value "expertise" in an area above overall competence. If an "expert" objects to the trespassing that much, how about simply refuting it? Should be easy for someone with such deep expertise who also is competent. Easy if they are correct, that is.

    The much more interesting questions I see are:
    1. How competent are most "experts" in reality? The present piece being discussed providing a good example. And the Covidiocy providing oh so many more examples.
    2. How much is competence an overall characteristic and how much a function of specific knowledge of a field?

    P.S. I am much more sympathetic to Pauling's vitamin C endeavors than the author is. One thing to pay particular attention to is the cases where "experts" "replicated" papers. It is not a replication if you use different conditions for the study. A fact those "experts" seem to forget when it is convenient for them.

    Replies: @anon

  138. Not just Black women.

    Lol you can’t beat the Toad.

    • Thanks: Gabe Ruth
  139. “Black professional women” have perfectly good reasons to be “exhausted”…

    — compiling ever-expanding CRT grievances in the Grievance Industry,
    — filling make-work affirmative action quotas,
    — making NASA successes possible,
    — warding off all those Whiteys trying to touch their hair.

  140. @Achmed E. Newman
    @Desiderius

    As an epistemic trespasser, let me just say one more thing:

    Seriously, were this the nascent www in 1995, wouldn't one think that iSteve was excerpting material from Mad Magazine or National Lampoon?

    Replies: @Dieter Kief, @Desiderius

    • Replies: @res
    @Desiderius

    That nails it. Thanks.

  141. @The Griffins
    @Thomas

    Wow!

    Sad story, bro.

    Who cares?

    Replies: @Tony massey

    Ya know I’ve never “fed the animals”. My hope is only to take photos and leave only foot prints.
    But it’s like this; in numerous places I’ve been(too many National parks to mention) people ALWAYS feed the animals. ALWAYS.
    I find that i actually prefer this. It’s cute when I’m sitting around some rest area and wild animals start begging for food. I’ve seen bears do it. Lots of deer.
    I read somewhere that game Forrest officials have been reporting all over that even the wildlife is getting obese. Go figure. They’re all getting fed. Might as well take the signs saying don’t feed’em down. One less eye sore.
    So…yeh it’s too damn late to stop feeding them. I can only imagine how they would react after a few days.

  142. @Desiderius
    @Dieter Kief

    We all know those for which it's no joking matter at all, and given that men have the flatter distribution of epistemic capacity and co-evolved with the present institutions I know which way I'd bet, but that would be sexist but the agreed definition so I'd have to know the Dr. better to say one way or the other in her case.

    Replies: @Dieter Kief, @res

    Beware though: It is sexist if you bet against women or some such because betting is a phallocratic act representing the suppressive powers of the cis-normative patriarchy.

    • Replies: @Desiderius
    @Dieter Kief

    This unironically. Can't afford to give them a leg to stand on. Playing it straight without pulling one's hair out trying to achieve some caricature of gender parity would be a massive improvement.

    Most readily achieved by focusing on the purported purpose of the institutions themselves once the madness exhausts itself. It may already have. Need to be ready for that eventuality.

    Replies: @Dieter Kief

  143. @Dieter Kief
    @Desiderius

    Beware though: It is sexist if you bet against women or some such because betting is a phallocratic act representing the suppressive powers of the cis-normative patriarchy.

    Replies: @Desiderius

    This unironically. Can’t afford to give them a leg to stand on. Playing it straight without pulling one’s hair out trying to achieve some caricature of gender parity would be a massive improvement.

    Most readily achieved by focusing on the purported purpose of the institutions themselves once the madness exhausts itself. It may already have. Need to be ready for that eventuality.

    • Replies: @Dieter Kief
    @Desiderius

    https://open.spotify.com/show/4rOoJ6Egrf8K2IrywzwOMk 

    Meghan Murphy, a Canadian comedian who is strongly opposed to the LGBTQ mainstream at home and abroad, got banned from Twitter, hassled in Canada, and went to live in Mexico instead of just giving in. She boxes! 

    Whom do Joe Rogan and Meghan Murphy mention in their conversation over and over again? -  Jordan B. Peterson. And that's for a reason in this context, isn't it? I oftentimes say these words: Women should understand and publicly say, that Jordan B. Peterson is their ally. Jordan B. Peterson and  - - - - Caille Paglia, too: Partners in the Crime of the Century: To pursue honesty and reason.


    HailToYou wrote this great essay about Robin DiAngelo - I hope he is alive and well: https://hailtoyou.wordpress.com/2020/08/03/who-radicalized-robin-diangelo-a-biographical-investigation-into-the-coiner-and-promoter-of-white-fragility-theory/#comment-47772

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

  144. @IHTG
    At first glance this is about race, but what it's really about is using the prestige of black racial identity to advocate for for a certain kind of "toxic femininity". Woke white women want to act like this too and often do.

    Replies: @Thomm

    At first glance this is about race, but what it’s really about is using the prestige of black racial identity to advocate for for a certain kind of “toxic femininity”. Woke white women want to act like this too and often do.

    Bingo. Leave it to Sailer to blame race, when about 90% of the blame for this should be attributed to gender.

    Women’s highest aspiration is to be given resources in return for doing no work. Their voting patterns confirm this.

    As you point out, a lot of woke white women complain about having to do work, but we see a lot fewer black men saying that.

    • Replies: @Polistra
    @Thomm

    Right, but that's because fewer of the men ever try working in the first place.

  145. One such woman is Amber Cabral, who runs a boutique diversity and inclusion firm based in Atlanta and who I am currently coaching.

    Coaches, coaching, coaches, coaching, coaches??? Sounds like a good gig to me 😉

  146. @Ancient Briton
    @Mr. Anon

    Hyperparasites [Wiki]

    Replies: @Mr. Anon

    Hyperparasites [Wiki]

    Thanks. “Hyperparasitic” sounds like a could adjective for a lot of our economy.

  147. @RichardTaylor
    The Covid Lockdown Hysteria Boys are also pretty lazy. Two years into this madness and no sign of rethinking by Sailer, Greg Cochran, Ron Unz or anybody else who pushed it.

    Fact: 78% of people hospitalized by Covid were obese.
    Fact: 40 % of people who died from Covid had diabetes.


    So yeah, fat, old, or gay, immune compromised people are under more threat from viruses. That's always been true. That's why two years into this most of us don't know anybody seriously affected by Covid in terms of health.

    https://www.healthline.com/health-news/40-percent-of-people-whove-died-from-covid-19-had-diabetes-researchers-say

    https://www.beckershospitalreview.com/public-health/78-of-covid-19-patients-hospitalized-in-the-us-overweight-or-obese-cdc-finds.html

    Replies: @Stan d Mute, @Jim Lahey, @Feryl, @Mike1, @Mr. Anon, @res

    Before getting too excited about research results it is worth taking a look at the actual papers. Especially if one has trouble finding those papers because of all the press releases and popular articles clogging up the search results. Especially if of none of those trouble themselves to give links to the full text.

    For your first.
    https://www.healthline.com/health-news/40-percent-of-people-whove-died-from-covid-19-had-diabetes-researchers-say

    This appears to be the paper.
    https://www.researchgate.net/publication/352729844_845-P_Unmanaged_Diabetes_as_a_Poor_Prognostic_Factor_in_the_Severity_of_Infection_and_Recovery_Time_of_Hospitalized_COVID-19_Patients

    I can’t find full text anywhere, but your link notes that the study was of 369 people at a single hospital in Texas. If you want to base YOUR decision making on a single paper like that where we can’t even examine the full text, be my guest.

    Your second link looks more substantial
    https://www.beckershospitalreview.com/public-health/78-of-covid-19-patients-hospitalized-in-the-us-overweight-or-obese-cdc-finds.html
    but let’s fix one thing first.

    You: Fact: 78% of people hospitalized by Covid were obese.
    Link: 78% of COVID-19 patients hospitalized in the US overweight or obese

    That difference might seem small to you, but it is important. According to this link
    https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/obesity-overweight.htm
    For US adults 20 and over 42.5% are obese while 73.6% are overweight, including obesity.

    So 73.6% of people overall make up 78% of those hospitalized. That is overrepresentation, but hardly to an earth shaking extent.

    But looking more closely we see this.

    Among 71,491 U.S. adults who were hospitalized with COVID-19, 27.8 percent were overweight and 50.2 were obese

    So we can see that the obese accounted for 50.2% of those hospitalized. That is about 20% overrepresentation. Large enough to be worth noting, but nothing like a complete explanation of who is and is not hospitalized.

    That link is nice in having a link to the more complete report. Which has a nice plot of the association between BMI and various outcomes (after the MORE). An interesting feature is that the underweight (BMI 45) for both all ages and those under 65.

    [MORE]

  148. @Desiderius
    @Dieter Kief

    We all know those for which it's no joking matter at all, and given that men have the flatter distribution of epistemic capacity and co-evolved with the present institutions I know which way I'd bet, but that would be sexist but the agreed definition so I'd have to know the Dr. better to say one way or the other in her case.

    Replies: @Dieter Kief, @res

    This 2018 paper gives a definition (amazing what can be published these days).
    https://academic.oup.com/mind/article-abstract/128/510/367/4850765

    Abstract

    Epistemic trespassers judge matters outside their field of expertise. Trespassing is ubiquitous in this age of interdisciplinary research and recognizing this will require us to be more intellectually modest.

    More detail at the start of the full text.

    Epistemic trespassers are thinkers who have competence or expertise to make good judgments in one field, but move to another field where they lack competence—and pass judgment nevertheless. We should doubt that trespassers are reliable judges in fields where they are outsiders.

    It is interesting that he chose Linus Pauling for his first example. I would argue that Pauling’s Nobel Prize for his peace work was an example of successful epistemic trespassing. It seems that slid right by the author.

    I find it fascinating how highly some people value “expertise” in an area above overall competence. If an “expert” objects to the trespassing that much, how about simply refuting it? Should be easy for someone with such deep expertise who also is competent. Easy if they are correct, that is.

    The much more interesting questions I see are:
    1. How competent are most “experts” in reality? The present piece being discussed providing a good example. And the Covidiocy providing oh so many more examples.
    2. How much is competence an overall characteristic and how much a function of specific knowledge of a field?

    P.S. I am much more sympathetic to Pauling’s vitamin C endeavors than the author is. One thing to pay particular attention to is the cases where “experts” “replicated” papers. It is not a replication if you use different conditions for the study. A fact those “experts” seem to forget when it is convenient for them.

    • Agree: Desiderius
    • Replies: @anon
    @res

    Epistemic trespassers judge matters outside their field of expertise.

    Thus the proper name for "Journalist" is "Epistemic Trespasser".

    Replies: @Jack Armstrong

  149. @Desiderius
    @Achmed E. Newman

    https://twitter.com/literalbanana/status/1428947706920067075?s=20

    Replies: @res

    That nails it. Thanks.

  150. @res
    @Desiderius

    This 2018 paper gives a definition (amazing what can be published these days).
    https://academic.oup.com/mind/article-abstract/128/510/367/4850765


    Abstract

    Epistemic trespassers judge matters outside their field of expertise. Trespassing is ubiquitous in this age of interdisciplinary research and recognizing this will require us to be more intellectually modest.
     

    More detail at the start of the full text.

    Epistemic trespassers are thinkers who have competence or expertise to make good judgments in one field, but move to another field where they lack competence—and pass judgment nevertheless. We should doubt that trespassers are reliable judges in fields where they are outsiders.
     
    It is interesting that he chose Linus Pauling for his first example. I would argue that Pauling's Nobel Prize for his peace work was an example of successful epistemic trespassing. It seems that slid right by the author.

    I find it fascinating how highly some people value "expertise" in an area above overall competence. If an "expert" objects to the trespassing that much, how about simply refuting it? Should be easy for someone with such deep expertise who also is competent. Easy if they are correct, that is.

    The much more interesting questions I see are:
    1. How competent are most "experts" in reality? The present piece being discussed providing a good example. And the Covidiocy providing oh so many more examples.
    2. How much is competence an overall characteristic and how much a function of specific knowledge of a field?

    P.S. I am much more sympathetic to Pauling's vitamin C endeavors than the author is. One thing to pay particular attention to is the cases where "experts" "replicated" papers. It is not a replication if you use different conditions for the study. A fact those "experts" seem to forget when it is convenient for them.

    Replies: @anon

    Epistemic trespassers judge matters outside their field of expertise.

    Thus the proper name for “Journalist” is “Epistemic Trespasser”.

    • LOL: res
    • Replies: @Jack Armstrong
    @anon

    So the AP is systemic epistemic trespassery?

    Sounds like Jackie Chiles or Algonquin J. Calhoun should be filing a class action suit.

  151. @Almost Missouri
    @J.Ross

    Probably.

    But they bill each other for that?

    Then they're just swapping $100 bills, plus the obligation to send another $20 to Uncle Sam.

    Replies: @Anon

    Then they’re just swapping \$100 bills, plus the obligation to send another \$20 to Uncle Sam.

    Nope, taxes are for Whipipo.

  152. • LOL: Achmed E. Newman
  153. @Dan Smith
    WTF is an executive coach?

    Replies: @Currahee, @Gary in Gramercy, @Reg Cæsar

    WTF is an executive coach?

    A boss bus?

  154. @Hangnail Hans

    all accustomed to the rigors of competitive work.
     
    oh my sides....

    “Black women have been groomed to overachieve,” she said. “We know how to boss up and get it done.
     
    Make it stop! Won't someone make it stop?

    I took a six-week sabbatical to write and rest that kicked off on my 40th birthday
     

    Christin “Cici” Battle left her job last year as executive director of a national nonprofit. (I coached Battle in 2015). She went home to Florida intending to stay for only two weeks. Two weeks turned into six months.
     
    These people wouldn't know hard work if it slapped them on the head with a mallet.

    What they want is more of what they already enjoy: applause for being Black! And rest, because it's exhausting just being Black! Lots of rest.

    Anyone who's worked in an office with negroes knows full well that they do next to nothing, come in late and leave early, take days off every week for preposterous reasons it no reason at all, and are subject to no rules ever because Racism. And no one ever dares call them on any of it.

    And that's the good side. Because when one of them actually does something, it's essentially sabotage and the white people have to cover for them and clean up their messes. Something symbolic about it all.

    Replies: @James Speaks

    You forgot the non-stop chatter, ooks and eeks and all the group feeds Big Mama puts on to establish dominance. Did I forget something? Oh, right. They’re rude. It’s their right, you know.

  155. There was that study that Steve blogged about earlier

    https://www.unz.com/isteve/white-privilege-at-work/

    That found blacks spend more hours not working at work than whites do.

    Black men were actually worse than black women. Maybe black women are exhausted because their men never pick up any slack.

  156. @Jack Armstrong
    @Fluesterwitz

    Paul Lynde?

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    What kind of non-black person would be a “frolic facilitator”?

    Paul Lynde?

    Alan Sues!

    On the other hand, the band in the beer tent across the street just finished up “Fat-Bottomed Girls”. Farrokh of Stone Town might do.

    • Agree: Jack Armstrong
  157. @Jim Lahey
    @RichardTaylor

    You don’t know anyone who’s fat, old, gay, diabetic, or immune-compromised? Just the first two categories cover about half the US population. I know fat and/or old people who were hospitalized with COVID, some of whom died. Are these people not worthy of concern?

    Replies: @Dieter Kief

    I know fat and/or old people who were hospitalized with COVID, some of whom died. Are these people not worthy of concern?

    I wholeheartedly agree with you.

    But what should follow from this insight? – That’s to debate, methinks.

    The main problems in my eyes right now being those:

    a) CDC and others (the governments – worldwide) are not willing to publicly say this: The hesitancy to admit that yes: Being obese and or diabetic increases your could risk manyfold. So – please follow Big Joe (Rogan, that is) and lose weight and – exercise. Because that’s clear too that a moderate exercise at least thrice a week does already wonders.

    b) with regard to those obese etc. who are in the high-risk group, everybody is nudged (or forced now in many places) to get the vaccine. Governments and health officials shy away from the fact, that the vaccination loses its benefits the younger and healthier you are and might even turn against herd immunity because as we know by now, antibodies from a real infection are stronger (last longer) than the vaccine. Plus – the medical risks for younger and healthy ones might well outweigh the gains from the vaccine.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Dieter Kief

    Let's All Fight Covid by Losing Ten Pounds would be a good campaign.

    Replies: @Desiderius

  158. @anon
    @res

    Epistemic trespassers judge matters outside their field of expertise.

    Thus the proper name for "Journalist" is "Epistemic Trespasser".

    Replies: @Jack Armstrong

    So the AP is systemic epistemic trespassery?

    Sounds like Jackie Chiles or Algonquin J. Calhoun should be filing a class action suit.

  159. @Desiderius
    @Dieter Kief

    This unironically. Can't afford to give them a leg to stand on. Playing it straight without pulling one's hair out trying to achieve some caricature of gender parity would be a massive improvement.

    Most readily achieved by focusing on the purported purpose of the institutions themselves once the madness exhausts itself. It may already have. Need to be ready for that eventuality.

    Replies: @Dieter Kief

    https://open.spotify.com/show/4rOoJ6Egrf8K2IrywzwOMk 

    Meghan Murphy, a Canadian comedian who is strongly opposed to the LGBTQ mainstream at home and abroad, got banned from Twitter, hassled in Canada, and went to live in Mexico instead of just giving in. She boxes! 

    Whom do Joe Rogan and Meghan Murphy mention in their conversation over and over again? –  Jordan B. Peterson. And that’s for a reason in this context, isn’t it? I oftentimes say these words: Women should understand and publicly say, that Jordan B. Peterson is their ally. Jordan B. Peterson and  – – – – Caille Paglia, too: Partners in the Crime of the Century: To pursue honesty and reason.

    HailToYou wrote this great essay about Robin DiAngelo – I hope he is alive and well: https://hailtoyou.wordpress.com/2020/08/03/who-radicalized-robin-diangelo-a-biographical-investigation-into-the-coiner-and-promoter-of-white-fragility-theory/#comment-47772

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    @Dieter Kief

    Thank you for that comment, Dieter. I can see where Jordan Peterson's lecturing and advice would be a better fit for women than men. I like the guy. To correct a typo, it's Camille Paglia. I'm not sure if you were recollecting it as you wrote, but there is a 1 and a half hour talk on youtube between Miss Paglia and Mr. Peterson, so, yeah, like partners.

    Who'd have thought I could sit through even 10 minutes of 2 intellectuals blabbing it out at a desk. However, after you get past the discussion of graduate studies in art, the talk was very interesting. It's on-line somewhere.

    I wonder about Mr. E.H. Hail myself. I see nothing new on his site besides your "recent" comment linking to Reg Caeser's comment on Mizz DiAngelo.

    Replies: @Dieter Kief

  160. @Mr. Anon

    In my business as an executive branding coach,

    ............................................

    One such woman is Amber Cabral, who runs a boutique diversity and inclusion firm based in Atlanta and who I am currently coaching.
     
    Does this exist anywhere else in nature? A parasite that feeds on other parasites?

    Replies: @Old Prude, @Ancient Briton, @kaganovitch

    Does this exist anywhere else in nature? A parasite that feeds on other parasites?

    Yes, the D.I.E. industry, the life coach industry, the Nap Ministry, etc. amount to a giant self-licking ice cream ecosystem.

    • Replies: @Art Deco
    @kaganovitch

    Partially disagree. The life coaches take business away from counselors, who take it away from clinical psychologists, who take it away from psychiatrists. It isn't a completely unproductive sector, just bloated and given to misconceived effort and making a living off of manufactured problems.

    Replies: @kaganovitch

  161. @Thomm
    @IHTG


    At first glance this is about race, but what it’s really about is using the prestige of black racial identity to advocate for for a certain kind of “toxic femininity”. Woke white women want to act like this too and often do.
     
    Bingo. Leave it to Sailer to blame race, when about 90% of the blame for this should be attributed to gender.

    Women's highest aspiration is to be given resources in return for doing no work. Their voting patterns confirm this.

    As you point out, a lot of woke white women complain about having to do work, but we see a lot fewer black men saying that.

    Replies: @Polistra

    Right, but that’s because fewer of the men ever try working in the first place.

  162. @Gary in Gramercy
    @Eric Ruttencutter

    Imagine the strength of the evidence against Kim Gardner that Missouri's chief disciplinary counsel must have to dare take action and call Gardner to account. In most states, a black big-city D.A. would be effectively above the law.

    If the allegations against Gardner are true, she ought to succeed Michael Nifong (Durham, NC, district attorney who prosecuted the Duke lacrosse players for rape -- absent any real evidence of their guilt -- and was eventually disbarred and jailed for his efforts) as the poster child for prosecutorial misconduct.

    Replies: @Polistra

    Nifong: Jailed for 22 hours, it bears repeating.

  163. @Dieter Kief
    @Desiderius

    https://open.spotify.com/show/4rOoJ6Egrf8K2IrywzwOMk 

    Meghan Murphy, a Canadian comedian who is strongly opposed to the LGBTQ mainstream at home and abroad, got banned from Twitter, hassled in Canada, and went to live in Mexico instead of just giving in. She boxes! 

    Whom do Joe Rogan and Meghan Murphy mention in their conversation over and over again? -  Jordan B. Peterson. And that's for a reason in this context, isn't it? I oftentimes say these words: Women should understand and publicly say, that Jordan B. Peterson is their ally. Jordan B. Peterson and  - - - - Caille Paglia, too: Partners in the Crime of the Century: To pursue honesty and reason.


    HailToYou wrote this great essay about Robin DiAngelo - I hope he is alive and well: https://hailtoyou.wordpress.com/2020/08/03/who-radicalized-robin-diangelo-a-biographical-investigation-into-the-coiner-and-promoter-of-white-fragility-theory/#comment-47772

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

    Thank you for that comment, Dieter. I can see where Jordan Peterson’s lecturing and advice would be a better fit for women than men. I like the guy. To correct a typo, it’s Camille Paglia. I’m not sure if you were recollecting it as you wrote, but there is a 1 and a half hour talk on youtube between Miss Paglia and Mr. Peterson, so, yeah, like partners.

    Who’d have thought I could sit through even 10 minutes of 2 intellectuals blabbing it out at a desk. However, after you get past the discussion of graduate studies in art, the talk was very interesting. It’s on-line somewhere.

    I wonder about Mr. E.H. Hail myself. I see nothing new on his site besides your “recent” comment linking to Reg Caeser’s comment on Mizz DiAngelo.

    • Replies: @Dieter Kief
    @Achmed E. Newman


    I’m not sure if you were recollecting it as you wrote, but there is a 1 and a half-hour talk on youtube between Miss Paglia and Mr. Peterson, so, yeah, like partners.

    Hi Achmed - I did


     

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-hIVnmUdXM

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aMcjxSThD54&t=1304s


    Cathy Newman: "Why should your right to freedom of speech trump the right of trans persons right not to be offended?"

    Jordan B. Peterson: "In order to think, you have to risk being offensive." (22:10)


    I even read some chunks in Camille Paglia's Opus magnum Sexual Personae - lots and lots of close reading of scenes of lust and - - - domination/subjugation in world literature. - what impressed me a lot then (about thirty years ago?) was, that she even dived into Heinrich von Kleist
    - and what's more, into one of hiss most dissturbing an dcomlicated and - almost unreadable plays Die Hermannsschlacht (Hermann's Battle) and Prinz von Homburg.

    She missed out completely on the clear and precise Kleist in his columns in the Berliner Abendblätter (a journal he founded) and - - - - two of the most important essays that there are in German ever: Über das Marionettentheater (About the Theater of the Puppets on a String) and Über die allmähliche Verfertigung der Gedanken beim Reden (About the Creation of Thoughts While Talking)

  164. @AnotherDad
    @Feryl


    Also, we’ve got things backwards because in a normal society it’s what affects children that takes priority. But covid overwhelmingly hits people over 50 the hardest. A normal flu season is quite a bit more dangerous to kids than covid is, but pre-covid we never shut down all that many pre-schools and elementary schools to protect kids from the flu.
     
    Agreed. To be fair, traditional societies weren't in a society wide panic about disease knocking off babies and young children, as disease was doing this all the time. Fertility was high, replacements came.

    But the traditional West was properly "future" oriented. People wanted to continue their people and culture and most highly valued having heirs to turn their family, nation, civilization over to.

    What they most certainly were not in a panic about would be a disease knocking off the old and sick which was utterly routine, even amongst the highest classes, the natural order and no threat or stress on the society at all. They properly understood that the young and health and productive were the ones who mattered, who would carry their families and nation forward.

    This Covid-19 thing had it occurred 500 years ago would likely be utterly unremarked upon. A bunch of old sick folks got pushed off the edge. Maybe "the weird sick that made one lose one's nose and tongue". A historical footnote at best. Not even "the epidemic of 1520".

    Replies: @anonymous coward

    This Covid-19 thing had it occurred 500 years ago would likely be utterly unremarked upon.

    This Covid-19 thing had it occurred 2 years ago would likely be utterly unremarked upon. (If the media and the state weren’t purposefully creating a crisis.)

  165. @Achmed E. Newman
    @Dieter Kief

    Thank you for that comment, Dieter. I can see where Jordan Peterson's lecturing and advice would be a better fit for women than men. I like the guy. To correct a typo, it's Camille Paglia. I'm not sure if you were recollecting it as you wrote, but there is a 1 and a half hour talk on youtube between Miss Paglia and Mr. Peterson, so, yeah, like partners.

    Who'd have thought I could sit through even 10 minutes of 2 intellectuals blabbing it out at a desk. However, after you get past the discussion of graduate studies in art, the talk was very interesting. It's on-line somewhere.

    I wonder about Mr. E.H. Hail myself. I see nothing new on his site besides your "recent" comment linking to Reg Caeser's comment on Mizz DiAngelo.

    Replies: @Dieter Kief

    I’m not sure if you were recollecting it as you wrote, but there is a 1 and a half-hour talk on youtube between Miss Paglia and Mr. Peterson, so, yeah, like partners.

    Hi Achmed – I did

    Cathy Newman: “Why should your right to freedom of speech trump the right of trans persons right not to be offended?”

    Jordan B. Peterson: “In order to think, you have to risk being offensive.” (22:10)

    I even read some chunks in Camille Paglia’s Opus magnum Sexual Personae – lots and lots of close reading of scenes of lust and – – – domination/subjugation in world literature. – what impressed me a lot then (about thirty years ago?) was, that she even dived into Heinrich von Kleist
    – and what’s more, into one of hiss most dissturbing an dcomlicated and – almost unreadable plays Die Hermannsschlacht (Hermann’s Battle) and Prinz von Homburg.

    She missed out completely on the clear and precise Kleist in his columns in the Berliner Abendblätter (a journal he founded) and – – – – two of the most important essays that there are in German ever: Über das Marionettentheater (About the Theater of the Puppets on a String) and Über die allmähliche Verfertigung der Gedanken beim Reden (About the Creation of Thoughts While Talking)

  166. @Dieter Kief
    @Jim Lahey


    I know fat and/or old people who were hospitalized with COVID, some of whom died. Are these people not worthy of concern?
     
    I wholeheartedly agree with you.

    But what should follow from this insight? - That's to debate, methinks.

    The main problems in my eyes right now being those:

    a) CDC and others (the governments - worldwide) are not willing to publicly say this: The hesitancy to admit that yes: Being obese and or diabetic increases your could risk manyfold. So - please follow Big Joe (Rogan, that is) and lose weight and - exercise. Because that's clear too that a moderate exercise at least thrice a week does already wonders.

    b) with regard to those obese etc. who are in the high-risk group, everybody is nudged (or forced now in many places) to get the vaccine. Governments and health officials shy away from the fact, that the vaccination loses its benefits the younger and healthier you are and might even turn against herd immunity because as we know by now, antibodies from a real infection are stronger (last longer) than the vaccine. Plus - the medical risks for younger and healthy ones might well outweigh the gains from the vaccine.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    Let’s All Fight Covid by Losing Ten Pounds would be a good campaign.

    • Agree: Desiderius, James Speaks
    • Replies: @Desiderius
    @Steve Sailer

    Something’s making that harder that it should be. There’s even increasing obesity in animals. Wall-E looking pretty prophetic.

  167. @Steve Sailer
    @Dieter Kief

    Let's All Fight Covid by Losing Ten Pounds would be a good campaign.

    Replies: @Desiderius

    Something’s making that harder that it should be. There’s even increasing obesity in animals. Wall-E looking pretty prophetic.

  168. @Gordo
    All these people live off the taxpayer right?

    Replies: @Art Deco

    If not in public sector positions, as contractors to public agencies or as private-sector employees / contractors who get work due to the compliance people in the corporation.

  169. It is not possible for Negro Women of Color (NWOC – “in-wok) to be tired from being so black b/c there is no such thing as race.

    The solution to hair troubles is going bald. To baldly go where no NWOC has gone before.

  170. @kaganovitch
    @Mr. Anon

    Does this exist anywhere else in nature? A parasite that feeds on other parasites?

    Yes, the D.I.E. industry, the life coach industry, the Nap Ministry, etc. amount to a giant self-licking ice cream ecosystem.

    Replies: @Art Deco

    Partially disagree. The life coaches take business away from counselors, who take it away from clinical psychologists, who take it away from psychiatrists. It isn’t a completely unproductive sector, just bloated and given to misconceived effort and making a living off of manufactured problems.

    • Replies: @kaganovitch
    @Art Deco

    Maybe I was overgeneralizing with life coaches. There appears to be a whole segment of life coaches who conceive of their job as marketing the clients 'brand'. That a middle management apparatchik has a 'brand' , is a delusion native to the ecosystem I am talking about.

  171. @Polistra
    @bomag

    If you've ever worked in a real office you know full well that the people who work best and hardest, and those who make a lot of noise about how hard they work, are--shall we say--two discrete groups.

    Replies: @The Alarmist, @Neuday, @aj54

    I was going to say something similar, but that “noise about how hard they work” was perfection. It did cross my mind that this author, and all the burnouts she talks to, possibly have no idea how hard other people work. Most people manage to practice enough regular self care and recreation on the weekend that they can get up and do it all again on Monday. How many people do we know who ever had an opportunity for an actual sabbatical? or could afford to take an unpaid one?

  172. Tired? Maybe get some of that junk out of your trunk.

  173. @CCZ
    @Dave Pinsen

    The diversity, affirmative action, first this and first that hires are demonstrating that diversity is our weakness (oops, I'm supposed to say strength!!).

    https://twitter.com/kristina_wong/status/1428895404209356800

    Replies: @Anonymous

    It’s funny how Google doesn’t show a picture of Lloyd Austin when you search his name. All previous Secretaries of Defense get pictures.

  174. @Giant Duck
    @Thomas

    It would be more sympathetic if the article were written from that standpoint - that black women are exhausted because they carry too much of the burden within the black community when compared to black men. But it isn't. It's written from the standpoint that black women work harder, and are still treated unfairly, by whites.


    Grieving and exhausted, she shared her need to take a step back at work. She says her boss, a White woman, explicitly told her she needed to push through anyway.

    “I was exhausted, but expectations for me in my role were very different as a Black woman,” she said. “And I had [other] White female colleagues tell me that.”

    She left the job a few months later.

    According to Reisha Moxley, a Nashville-based clinical psychologist who did her doctoral research on high-achieving Black women working in predominantly White spaces, such microaggressions are common, and offer another explanation for why Black women are clamoring for rest. (I’ve hired Moxley as a consultant).
     

    Replies: @Angharad

    I once worked for Dunn and Bradstreet. I had a group of co-worker pals. We’d eat lunch together. I Black woman in this group was up for a promotion. It was a two-fer. She was Black and a woman. She was angry about this because she was a very smart cookie, and she knew she wasn’t being promoted for her ability, but for the Diversity Checkmarks she provided. The funny thing was that every one else in our little Frens Group was White (one girl was half White and half Mexican) and we all told her to take the promotion. Don’t worry about the reasons. It meant more money and more opportunities. She didn’t. She quit and went elsewhere.

  175. “Black women have been groomed to overachieve,” she said.

    Never seen evidence of this.

    • Replies: @anon
    @The Germ Theory of Disease

    Ordinary achievement by the standards of wypipo is overachivement to black women.
    Similar to comparing a 4.0 GPA from Howard to a 4.0 GPA from Purdue, in a way.
    Both are "4.0", however inequality is baked in.

    But this is only to be expected in the world of Civic Nationalist, "paint theory" blank slate faith.

  176. @Art Deco
    @kaganovitch

    Partially disagree. The life coaches take business away from counselors, who take it away from clinical psychologists, who take it away from psychiatrists. It isn't a completely unproductive sector, just bloated and given to misconceived effort and making a living off of manufactured problems.

    Replies: @kaganovitch

    Maybe I was overgeneralizing with life coaches. There appears to be a whole segment of life coaches who conceive of their job as marketing the clients ‘brand’. That a middle management apparatchik has a ‘brand’ , is a delusion native to the ecosystem I am talking about.

  177. anon[358] • Disclaimer says:
    @The Germ Theory of Disease
    “Black women have been groomed to overachieve,” she said.

    Never seen evidence of this.

    Replies: @anon

    Ordinary achievement by the standards of wypipo is overachivement to black women.
    Similar to comparing a 4.0 GPA from Howard to a 4.0 GPA from Purdue, in a way.
    Both are “4.0”, however inequality is baked in.

    But this is only to be expected in the world of Civic Nationalist, “paint theory” blank slate faith.

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