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From the Washington Post “Pop Culture” section (i.e., not Opinion, but not exactly News either):

Bette Midler and Macy Gray upset trans advocates. Here’s why.

By Anne Branigin
July 6, 2022 at 4:25 p.m. EDT

In the aftermath of the Supreme Court’s decision last month to overturn the fundamental right to an abortion, many celebrities have spoken out about what they see as a loss of reproductive rights and bodily autonomy.

Then came Bette Midler.

The entertainer, in a tweet posted Monday, wrote that women around the world “are being stripped of our rights over our bodies, our lives and even of our name!”

“They don’t call us ‘women’ anymore; they call us ‘birthing people’ or ‘menstruators,’ and even ‘people with vaginas’! Don’t let them erase you! Every human on earth owes you!” she added.

The same day, an interview between media personality Piers Morgan and singer Macy Gray aired in which Morgan brought up the controversy over trans athletes competing in women’s sports.

“I will say this, and everyone’s going to hate me, but as a woman, just because you go change your [body] parts, [it] doesn’t make you a woman. Sorry,” Gray said.

Macy Gray is a 1990s black singer. Her music reminds me of Sly and the Family Stone, which is rather high praise. (By the way, and this is getting totally off track, but it strikes me that Sly Stone was the black Brian Wilson: a popular music genius whom drugs lifted into the stratosphere for a few years and then cast down.)

Both entertainers were trending on social media this week as transgender advocates and allies called out what they saw as transphobic remarks. …

Some on social media referred to the celebrities as “TERFs,” an acronym for “trans-exclusionary radical feminists” — and drew comparisons to author J.K. Rowling, who has come under criticism from trans advocates in the past. (On Tuesday, Rowling seemed to support Gray’s comments, tweeting, “Today feels like a good day to ensure I’ve bought Macy Gray’s entire back catalogue.”)

There are a lot of subjects upon which I would not defer to the judgment of J.K. Rowling, Bette Midler, or Macy Gray. But not on the question of: What and who is a woman?

Midler and Gray, who have long been seen as allies to the LGBTQ community, responded to the criticisms Tuesday. In a tweet, Midler said her statement was in response to a “fascinating and well written” opinion piece that ran in the New York Times over the weekend, which argued that “women” was becoming a forbidden word, edged out by gender-neutral terms such as “pregnant people.”

“There was no intention of anything exclusionary or transphobic in what I said; it wasn’t about that,” Midler wrote.

In a statement shared with The Washington Post, Gray said: “I have nothing but love for the LGBTQ+ and transgender community and have been a supporter since day one. My statement on Piers Morgan was grossly misunderstood. I don’t hate anyone. I respect everyone’s right to feel comfortable in their bodies and live their own truth.”

In other words, the ex-men are the Seal Team Six of cancel culture and they are backed by a vast army of not very bright females who Don’t Get the Joke, so please don’t cancel us.

Many trans advocates and allies saw in Midler and Gray’s comments the kind of talking points typically associated with anti-trans feminists, who are also known as “gender critical” feminists.

These anti-trans feminists have recently found common ground — and increasing visibility and power — with conservative evangelical Christians, a group that has been largely credited with mobilizing, politically and socially, to curtail abortion and other reproductive rights.

Midler and Gray’s remarks are also coming at a significant time for both trans people and cisgender women, experts note: Both groups are widely seen as the most invested in — and vulnerable to — a recent rollback of reproductive rights and bodily autonomy.

After all, who is more likely to need an abortion than Caitlyn Jenner?

Given the political moment, it’s no wonder the two celebrities touched off a conversation about transphobic language, defining womanhood and more. We asked advocates and experts to contextualize what’s at play.

Who are TERFs?

In the past decade, TERF has become increasingly common as a shorthand way of identifying a person who self-identifies as a feminist but is unwilling to include transgender women and girls in their advocacy — and more frequently, have actively sought to exclude trans women from women’s spaces.

As I mentioned in my 1994 article “Why Lesbians Aren’t Gay,” the Michigan Womyn’s Music Festival took a stand in favor of letting lesbians sit in folding camp chairs and listen to the Indigo Girls without being hit on by men in dresses who had declared themselves lesbians.

Is that really too much to ask?

As it turned out, during the Great Awokening, yes, it is too much to ask that lesbians could have their own weekend in rural Michigan without being pestered by ex-men pretending to be lesbians. Lesbians, who’d been pushing around more feminine women for decades, got steamrollered in turn by the ex-men. From Wikipedia:

From 1991, the festival excluded trans women, claiming a “womyn-born womyn” policy, which drew increasing criticism. The festival was picketed by Camp Trans starting in the 1990’s for its exclusionary policy. LGBT advocacy group Equality Michigan boycotted the event in 2014. Michfest drew criticism from the Human Rights Campaign, GLAAD, the National Center for Lesbian Rights, and the National LGBTQ Task Force, among others. The festival held its final event in August 2015.

Back to the Washington Post:

They were considered a fringe offshoot of the women’s right movement of the 1970s and are still a relatively small group, according to Heron Greenesmith, a senior research analyst for LGBTQ justice at Political Research Associates, a left-leaning social justice research and strategy organization. In recent years, Greenesmith has been monitoring and studying anti-trans feminists.

What interests Greenesmith about this group is how it adopts feminist principles “while actually undermining bodily autonomy … one of those foundational principles of feminism,” they said.

… The fact that Midler and Gray, who both consider themselves allies of the LGBTQ community, could knowingly or unknowingly spout anti-trans rhetoric is a sign of how much that messaging has proliferated in the mainstream, experts say.

And what does Bathhouse Betty (accompanied by her pianist Barry Manilow) know about men who say they are women compared to EXPERTS? Does Bette Midler have a doctorate in gender studies? Is Barry Manilow a Ph.D. so how could he possibly advise Bette on such questions?

According to Jules Gill-Peterson, an associate professor of history at Johns Hopkins University, Midler’s tweet — and the New York Times opinion piece that inspired it — are rooted in a panic over language. …

In recent years, many U.S. medical and governmental institutions, advocacy groups and media organizations, including The Washington Post, have moved to adopt more gender-neutral language — part of a larger, worldwide trend of making gendered language more inclusive of transgender, nonbinary and gender-nonconforming people. The fight over abortion rights has magnified this effort — as well as criticism of it.

While LGBTQ advocates and allies have noted that trans men and nonbinary people also seek abortions — and often encounter systemic barriers and discrimination along the way — these same individuals and organizations have often reiterated the importance of recognizing cis women in these conversations….

Gill-Peterson sees the furor over language such as “birthing people” as a “sort of attempt to drive a wedge” between groups that are actually aligned in their goal of protecting bodily autonomy and self-determination: “Sometimes these language games are actually a way of further delegitimizing everyone involved.”

‘Different ways to be women’

On the other hand, Gray’s comments, which focused on how one cannot change their body parts and be considered a “woman,” appear to tie back to the larger issue of “gender essentialism,” or the idea that the only genders are male and female and are defined by certain physical characteristics, said Greenesmith.

While the urge to define what womanhood is has been around for some time, the question of how one defines a woman has been a recurring fixation among conservatives this year.

“I’m not a biologist.”

Supreme Court Justice Ketanji Brown Jackson was asked how she would define a woman during her confirmation hearings, for example.

“I’m not a biologist.”

Speaking with Morgan, Gray said: “Being a little girl is a whole epic book, you know? And you can’t have that just because you want to be a woman.”

It’s almost as if women singers who appeal to millions like Macy Gray have a more profound sense of womanhood than autistic ex-men.

 
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  1. Don’t let them erase you!

    Right there with you, honey. It’s disgraceful how women are being thrown under the bus for the sake of a small number of freaks.

    Every human on earth owes you!” she added.

    That part is slightly more mystifying. We hear it a lot.

    • Replies: @YetAnotherAnon
    @HammerJack

    "Every human on earth owes you!" simply means that without women, real biological women, none of us would be here.

    Replies: @HammerJack, @Dave from Oz

    , @Cool Daddy Jimbo
    @HammerJack

    "Right there with you, honey. It’s disgraceful how women are being thrown under the bus for the sake of a small number of freaks."

    Trannies are the new puppy in the house. Everyone wants to play with it. Women are the old dog over in the corner, ignored by the entire family.

    , @AnotherDad
    @HammerJack



    Every human on earth owes you!” she added.
     
    That part is slightly more mystifying. We hear it a lot.
     
    Actually, i'm fine with this notion--it's true--as long as it comes with the traditional nod to sexual-dimorphism. Women are responsible for carrying and birthing and (usually) nursing every human on earth. It is a natural and beautiful and vitally important task. Men should acknowledge that.

    However, the flip side is that men are responsible for almost every useful material invention and scientific advance that makes our lives some much easier and richer and are still responsible for almost all the creation and maintenance of all the material infrastructure that makes life comfortable, pleasant and rewarding. Women need to acknowledge that--and get out of the way and let men do their creating and building and reasoning and leading and stop screwing stuff up with their emotional hissy fits.

    Replies: @Buzz Mohawk, @Bill Jones

  2. part of a larger, worldwide trend of making gendered language more inclusive

    We, kemo sabe?

    Nope. It is a CM engineered plot to destroy Western Civilization. Others need not apply.

    Just like Climate Change™. Only suicidal Western countries are involved.

    • Replies: @Tono Bungay
    @Gamecock

    What’s CM?

    Replies: @Lurker

    , @Peter Akuleyev
    @Gamecock


    part of a larger, worldwide trend of making gendered language more inclusive
     
    Or we could just all speak Turkish or Mandarin, both non-gendered languages (the spoken varieties at least), and adopt their progressive attitudes toward women and LGBTQ+ people.

    Replies: @middle-aged vet

  3. We asked advocates and experts to contextualize what’s at play.

    I.e., the MSM is saying “Here’s how to think about this.”

    And how is it that there are experts everywhere now? It seems like every second or third person is an expert. Businesses used to call their employees “team members” to get them to behave. Now they’re all “our team of experts.” As in “Please hold while we get one of our team of experts to help you.”

    You wouldn’t dare question an expert, would you?

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @HammerJack

    Yesterday I heard an interview on NPR with some woman talking about how the Supreme Court ruling was taking away rights from women, blah, blah, blah - standard pro-abortion stuff. But then the NPR reporter corrected her and said, "you mean people who are pregnant" and the abortion lady (I'm guessing older than the NPR reporter*) quickly corrected herself and said , "yes, yes, pregnant people." You can get in big trouble on the Left if you don't keep up with today's Party Line and acceptable jargon. Jargon is used as a filtering tool to separate Good People from Bad People. Bad People are either ignorant hicks who don't even know the jargon or they are, even worse, intelligent people who know the jargon but refuse to use it for ideological reasons which definitely identifies them as enemies. If you make your living as some sort of Leftist NGO type the last thing you can afford to be is an identified enemy.

    * You'll notice that Bette Midler is not exactly a spring chicken. A lot of this stuff is generational where younger Leftists see trannies as just as normal as any other LGBXYZ flavor but older people, no matter how liberal, are stuck in their youth when everyone, even the most radical Leftists who were accepting of LGB, still saw trannies as freaks outside the pale.

    Replies: @AndrewR, @Achmed E. Newman

  4. World goes trans …

    • Replies: @tyrone
    @Bardon Kaldian


    World goes trans …
     
    ....oh don't worry ,the real reset is coming ......i.e. political , economic collapse and world war ,the tranny thing will be a dim memory......ok worry.
    , @jamie b.
    @Bardon Kaldian

    Thai ladyboys are hardly a new thing. They've been around for generations.

  5. Ooh, there’s trouble in the loony bin between the menstruators/menopausers and the womenposers. If the fighting gets rough and they get sent to jail, just think of the glorious prison drama–tune in for Netflix’s blockbuster lockup series “Wrongbody Bitch” as the Smells Like Tuna gang takes on the The Hole Shebanged roughians.

    At least there’s a ray of hope that the translunacy bullshit has run its course and the pendulum is swinging back when even Superwokies like Bette Midler object.

    • Replies: @Prester John
    @roonaldo

    I love a good catfight.

  6. The irony is that psychologically J.K. Rowling is no different to the young women most stridently denouncing her.

    The difference is merely the year they were born. That’s why it’s so viscous and they haven’t come to terms with this yet, that’s why they were such turbo fans of her work to begin with. To those girls it doesn’t make sense that Rowling doesn’t have the same opinions as them and they get particularly mad at her for not having them.

    The very thing people like Rowling wanted, Lisa Simpsons like herself having profound power and influence has come to pass to the greatest degree yet seen and now that world has turned on her. They don’t get the joke.

    • Agree: fish, West reanimator
    • Thanks: Muggles
    • Replies: @S. Anonyia
    @Altai

    Whatever you think of her political views, Rowling has genuine creativity and talent that the Lisa Simpsons of the world lack (they are mediocre grinds). People with those qualities are generally not enthusiastically into the gender theory woo. The mediocrities love it because reciting the mantras gives them immense power over their betters.

    So I suspect even if Rowling were younger she would be a “terf,” albeit slightly less vocal due to fear.

  7. Bette Midler is just trying to get Mid America back on her side in time for Hocus Pocus

    Bette Midler has spent the last few Decades being the ugliest anti-American she can be

    • Agree: YetAnotherAnon
    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Thoughts


    Bette Midler is just trying to get Mid America back on her side in time for Hocus Pocus

    Bette Midler has spent the last few Decades being the ugliest anti-American she can be
     
    Like Barack Obama, she wasn't born in America, but in the illegally occupied Kingdom of Hawaii.

    Replies: @ScarletNumber

    , @Gordo
    @Thoughts


    Bette Midler is just trying to get Mid America back on her side in time for Hocus Pocus
     
    Hocus Pocus? Is that like Helter Skelter? should we be worried?
  8. @HammerJack

    Don’t let them erase you!
     
    Right there with you, honey. It's disgraceful how women are being thrown under the bus for the sake of a small number of freaks.

    Every human on earth owes you!” she added.
     
    That part is slightly more mystifying. We hear it a lot.

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon, @Cool Daddy Jimbo, @AnotherDad

    “Every human on earth owes you!” simply means that without women, real biological women, none of us would be here.

    • Replies: @HammerJack
    @YetAnotherAnon

    But not one specific woman, I'm thinking? How about men? (Not counting the MEN OF UNZ of course.) Are men dispensable?

    Seriously, though, I'd like it better if they claimed that neither men or women are dispensable, but trannies we could actually do without.

    Of course, they wouldn't dare say that.

    , @Dave from Oz
    @YetAnotherAnon

    It is certainly true that every human was birthed by a woman who didn't abort them. But people who trumpet this amazing fact tend to forget that is mostly men growing the food.

    Replies: @Jack D

  9. As someone said about Rowling a few months ago – her biggest grievance is that undeserved social privileges that had been set aside for females are being lost to the tranny movement. So her grievance is really about losing power. One cannot claim to both stand with the trannys and then complain about losing their female identity to them and be taken seriously.

    Also, that performance of Milder in the bathhouse is just nasty. She herself looks like a transvestite. And her “dancing” looks more along the lines of a seizure, or a nervous breakdown. It lacks any grace, rhythm, or control while she flails her arms and milk bags about. On the other hands, it is appropriately grotesque for the most grotesque of locations, so maybe she’s a subtle genius and not just a promoter of perversion?

    NAAAAAAAAAA

    • Replies: @Pop Warner
    @Mike Tre


    As someone said about Rowling a few months ago – her biggest grievance is that undeserved social privileges that had been set aside for females are being lost to the tranny movement. So her grievance is really about losing power. One cannot claim to both stand with the trannys and then complain about losing their female identity to them and be taken seriously.
     
    I've been saying this for years. Rowling doesn't hate trannies because she's based, she hates trannies because they're men trying to get in her own privileges. She's a white-hating, rapefugee-loving leftist who aligns with globohomo on every issue except one because she isn't quite as suicidal as the average baizuo. This is true with every TERF, who predictably blame white men for all the ills of the world.
    , @Curle
    @Mike Tre

    “undeserved social privileges that had been set aside for females are being lost to the tranny movement.”

    Your mom and sister don’t deserve social privileges?

    Replies: @Mike Tre, @Dr. DoomNGloom

  10. I am more hopeful now than a year ago that the people trying to foist this BS on us are in a losing battle long term. I have been in multiple situations in the last 6-7 months in which people whose politics are decidedly left of center have derided stuff like ‘diversity and inclusion’ and the transmania.

    There is still a long way to go and plenty of pronoun people are still in influential positions in local government, media, etc., but I don’t think this form of signaling has the same cache it did just a year ago.

  11. @Gamecock

    part of a larger, worldwide trend of making gendered language more inclusive
     
    We, kemo sabe?

    Nope. It is a CM engineered plot to destroy Western Civilization. Others need not apply.

    Just like Climate Change™. Only suicidal Western countries are involved.

    Replies: @Tono Bungay, @Peter Akuleyev

    What’s CM?

    • Replies: @Lurker
    @Tono Bungay

    CM - Cultural Marxism.

  12. My vague impression is that “well-behaved” engineer types opened the door for all this woke madness because they didn’t have the guts for a social/moral fight. Too harsh? I don’t know, but if you notice, while they make the system work, they always bend the knee to whoever screams at them the loudest.

    Most engineers, as well as most yuppies, pretty much submit to whoever has power. Their whole lives depend on other males seizing and defending territory for them to play in. That would be fine if they showed loyalty to those who did show real courage.

    • Replies: @Unintended Consequence
    @Loyalty Over IQ Worship

    Engineers are actually the lower form of life. If peace lasts for a few decades, the engineers will eventually vote to tax away the more entrepreneurial yuppies' profits.

  13. cisgender women, experts note: Both groups are widely seen as the most invested in — and vulnerable to — a recent rollback of reproductive rights and bodily autonomy.

    Aborted fetuses could not be reached for comment.

  14. Would Bette Midler and Barry Mannilow rank above Bob Zimmerman in the Jewish rock star category? Teehee.

    Cue: Midnight In Memphis by Bette Midler

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    @Trinity

    Difficulty: tickets sold.

    , @The Anti-Gnostic
    @Trinity

    OT: That reminds me. Gene Simmons and Paul Stanley are the greatest Jewish rock stars and no other Jew is even close. Bob Dylan has the artistic and bohemian-celebrity chops but I don't really think 'rock star' for Bob Dylan. (I missed the 'Where Are the Jewish Rock Stars' thread and don't feel like wading thru it.)

    Replies: @Trinity, @Harry Baldwin, @JimDandy, @YetAnotherAnon, @Hilarious Racism Reference

  15. In a tweet, Midler said her statement was in response to a “fascinating and well written” opinion piece that ran in the New York Times over the weekend, which argued that “women” was becoming a forbidden word, edged out by gender-neutral terms such as “pregnant people.”

    When people get all over your ass for mindlessly parroting the New York Times, who can you turn to? In the words of that guy on Animal House, “What are we SUPPOSED to do, ya’ mow-ron?”

    (Must be a mole in the NTY organization.)

    • LOL: Abe
  16. @Gamecock

    part of a larger, worldwide trend of making gendered language more inclusive
     
    We, kemo sabe?

    Nope. It is a CM engineered plot to destroy Western Civilization. Others need not apply.

    Just like Climate Change™. Only suicidal Western countries are involved.

    Replies: @Tono Bungay, @Peter Akuleyev

    part of a larger, worldwide trend of making gendered language more inclusive

    Or we could just all speak Turkish or Mandarin, both non-gendered languages (the spoken varieties at least), and adopt their progressive attitudes toward women and LGBTQ+ people.

    • LOL: kaganovitch
    • Replies: @middle-aged vet
    @Peter Akuleyev

    "how to say you do not understand linguistics without saying you do not understand linguistics"

  17. This is a sophomore essay for Gender Studies 101 at a non-selective State University at best, and yet it appears in the Washington Post. I found even the bit excerpted by Steve to be meandering and pointless, mostly because it takes pains to tick the box of consulting experts (advocates) to say what the author has been clearly saying, one supposes to shift the piece from obvious opinion to reporting according to some technical style guide that’s been tortured to the point of meaninglessness. Yes, Mizz Branigin, we knew your conclusions and purposes within the first three sentences. We didn’t really need the rest.

    The ruling class, in addition to being malicious, is populated by absolute mediocrities.

    • Agree: Gordo
    • Replies: @Merema
    @Alec Leamas (working from home)

    I don't understand this blaming many things on autism. Autism is a heartbreaking and devastating developmental disorder. The vast majority those who suffer from it (99%) wouldn't begin to understand gender politics. A few that have a mild version might, but what evidence is there that transwomen are "austistic ex-men".

    Trannies probably have mental health issues, but not autism.

    Replies: @Jack D, @Alec Leamas (hard at work)

  18. Can someone explain how states exercising their newfound right to ban abortion is going to benefit me?

    • Replies: @Ralph L
    @Anon

    More workers in 20 years to pay for your SS and Medicare.

    Replies: @Anon

  19. @YetAnotherAnon
    @HammerJack

    "Every human on earth owes you!" simply means that without women, real biological women, none of us would be here.

    Replies: @HammerJack, @Dave from Oz

    But not one specific woman, I’m thinking? How about men? (Not counting the MEN OF UNZ of course.) Are men dispensable?

    Seriously, though, I’d like it better if they claimed that neither men or women are dispensable, but trannies we could actually do without.

    Of course, they wouldn’t dare say that.

  20. And here I thought Macy Gray would be best remembered for her wtf cameo in the first Tobey Maguire Spiderman:

    Also, who had Macy Gray and Bette Midler both becoming the new Anita Bryant on their 2022 disaster bingo card?

  21. Anon[318] • Disclaimer says:

    In the same vein as the WaPo, at New York Magazine:

    The Right’s Dangerous ‘Just Asking Questions’ Anti-Trans Campaign Is Working
    https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2022/07/the-just-asking-questions-anti-trans-campaign-is-working.html

    Despite mountains of evidence, the movie’s producers and onscreen guide, right-wing pundit Matt Walsh, do not believe that people can change their gender….

    By disguising a religious precept as a reasonable question, Walsh and his team have set out to win new friends and encourage existing allies at the same time. It’s an effective strategy, and the majority of us who understand the factual existence of trans people can’t afford to ignore them….

    Walsh seems to be looking for what’s called an “essentialist” definition of woman — a common mistake for students in the first semester of a 101 class.

    The writer of this, a Malcolm Harris, who came into the public eye during Occupy Wall Street, blames these TERFs for a supposed rise in anti LGBT violence.

    The “existence” of trans people is being denied by TERFs, whatever that means. Existence seems to be changing its meaning just as woman is.

    • Replies: @Burnett
    @Anon

    If you want to get a sense of how the tide may be turning on this stuff, check out the subscriber comments on the Malcom Harris New York Magazine article. A few hours after it was posted yesterday, the comment section (usually very liberal in most issues) was pushing back hard against the weak, question-begging "analysis" in Harris's article.

  22. Steve. Steviots. You are not taking this seriously. You have to take this stuff seriously, as seriously as you are, because you have been forced to have to take it seriously.

  23. The funniest thing about Bette Midler getting into it with trannies — I’m guessing a lot of younger people have no familiarity with Midler or at best know her Simpsons appearance or From A Distance or Wind Beneath My Wings — is that her stage persona with exceptions was a slutty bawdy tranny who happened to be played by a woman instead of a man.

  24. Jon says:

    Although it was highly amusing when a dumb joke I laughed at as a kid (Q: How do you stop a black guy from robbing you? A: Throw him a basketball) became official policy under Clinton, I find the actualizing of the “I’m a man trapped in a lesbian’s body” punchline much less so.
    What other bad jokes are we going to have to live through?

    • Replies: @stillCARealist
    @Jon

    Rush Limbaugh used to joke that he was a male lesbian. It might have been true, considering how many wives he went through.

    My relative's daughter acted on this. She went from female lesbian to straight male (at least on paper and in appearance). The mental illness is the only constant in her life.

  25. Sly Stone: “We was like the Temptations. On acid.”

  26. @Trinity
    Would Bette Midler and Barry Mannilow rank above Bob Zimmerman in the Jewish rock star category? Teehee.

    Cue: Midnight In Memphis by Bette Midler

    Replies: @J.Ross, @The Anti-Gnostic

    Difficulty: tickets sold.

  27. “in the past decade, TERF has become increasingly common as a shorthand way of identifying a person”

    in the past decade, TERF has become increasingly common as a shorthand way of condemning a person

    FIFY

    • Thanks: bomag
  28. The late great Steve Goodman. There are men who love women who love men.

    • Replies: @Ganderson
    @Woodsie

    Still sad that Steve is gone…

  29. @Trinity
    Would Bette Midler and Barry Mannilow rank above Bob Zimmerman in the Jewish rock star category? Teehee.

    Cue: Midnight In Memphis by Bette Midler

    Replies: @J.Ross, @The Anti-Gnostic

    OT: That reminds me. Gene Simmons and Paul Stanley are the greatest Jewish rock stars and no other Jew is even close. Bob Dylan has the artistic and bohemian-celebrity chops but I don’t really think ‘rock star’ for Bob Dylan. (I missed the ‘Where Are the Jewish Rock Stars’ thread and don’t feel like wading thru it.)

    • Replies: @Trinity
    @The Anti-Gnostic

    David Lee Roth would be just behind them. I think the lead singer of The Raspberries, Eric Carmen was Jewish. The Raspberries were more pop than rock, even slightly bubblegum but I liked a couple hits.

    Cue: Go All The Way by The Raspberries

    , @Harry Baldwin
    @The Anti-Gnostic

    If you Google "Jewish Rock Stars" you'll find some interesting names--Joey Ramone, Lesley Gore, David Lee Roth, Lou Reed, Leslie West, etc.

    , @JimDandy
    @The Anti-Gnostic

    I think David Lee Roth was more of a genuine rock star, whereas those two were somewhat a novelty act.

    Replies: @ScarletNumber

    , @YetAnotherAnon
    @The Anti-Gnostic

    But the best Jewish rock star was Peter Green. Best white bluesman, best guitarist. But not a "rock star" who loved the life. Even his early John Mayall stuff like "Out Of Reach" is really bleak, how he's so lonely and doesn't have any friends.

    And becoming a star didn't help.


    Now, when I talk to God, I know he'll understand
    He said, "Stick by me and I'll be your guiding hand
    But don't ask me what I think of you
    I might not give the answer that you want me to"
     

    Shall I tell you about my life
    They say I'm a man of the world
    I've flown across every tide
    And I've seen lots of pretty girls
    I guess I've got everything I need
    I wouldn't ask for more
    And there's no one I'd rather be
    But I just wish that I had never been born
     
    , @Hilarious Racism Reference
    @The Anti-Gnostic

    Look at this guy, forgetting Donald Fagen...hand over the keys to your hot tub

  30. One of the reasons we’re having this madness is because “conservatives” surrendered on “gender.” There are no genders among people, there are only sexes.

    “Genders” only exist in languages, and I’m not sure they exist in all languages, not that it even matters. I’m an English-language-learner, and English has no genders.

    Funny, no, that the language that lacks genders became the battleground for gender talk about 50 years ago? My hunch is that it was due to feminazis and queers who had messed around in European languages.

  31. One of the reasons we’re having this madness is because “conservatives” surrendered on “gender.” There are no genders among people, there are only sexes.

    “Genders” only exist in languages, and I’m not sure they exist in all languages, not that it even matters. I’m an English-language-learner, and English has no genders.

    Funny, no, that the language that lacks genders became the battleground for gender talk about 50 years ago? My hunch is that it was due to feminazis and queers who had messed around in European languages. (Why am I having so much trouble posting this?)

  32. Tough to get the toothpaste back n the tube. My favorite recent quote concerning women comes with the new shortage of tampons which is effecting “women and other people with uteruses.” And really, how is midler relevant in any news item. Do they still use publicists to get their name in print?

    • Thanks: Almost Missouri
    • Replies: @Almost Missouri
    @Buffalo Joe

    As the WaPo noted,


    Midler and Gray, who have long been seen as allies to the LGBTQ community
     
    I don't know how "longtime allies" missed it, but the "T" in "LGBTQ" is for "trans".

    As Rudyard noted,

    If you take the first step, you will take the last!
     
    As I keep saying,

    This is where your liberalism was always headed! ... Welcome to the world you helped to build while you piously denounced those who correctly foresaw the fruits of your folly.
     
    You broke this bottle open, Bette, now you own it.

    Too late to apologize.
    , @SafeNow
    @Buffalo Joe


    Tough to get the toothpaste back n the tube.
     
    I embrace disappearing idioms, so thank you for that! I would give some examples, but I have to shuffle off to Buffalo.
  33. MB says: • Website

    Supreme Court Justice Ketanji Brown Jackson was asked how she would define a woman during her confirmation hearings, for example.

    “I’m not a biologist.”

    Next question for our genius jurist is: Are you a woman/How can you tell/Are you sure?

    Runner up: What is your name?

    Runner up #2: How can you defend a woman’s right to kill her child, when you can’t tell us what a woman is?

    Runner up #1 to Runner up #2: How many fingers am I holding up, 26 or 32?

    • Replies: @Jonathan Mason
    @MB

    The correct answer to that would be that she would get back later with a written response, but that it would depend on the context of the law in question.

    , @Muggles
    @MB

    A good follow up question for Kenji would have been:

    President Biden said he would nominate only a black woman. So are you a black woman? How do you know, if you are not a biologist?

    (Okay, two questions.)

  34. • Replies: @Cool Daddy Jimbo
    @MEH 0910

    "Dance to the Music" is great. "All the squares go home!"

    Replies: @ScarletNumber

  35. @The Anti-Gnostic
    @Trinity

    OT: That reminds me. Gene Simmons and Paul Stanley are the greatest Jewish rock stars and no other Jew is even close. Bob Dylan has the artistic and bohemian-celebrity chops but I don't really think 'rock star' for Bob Dylan. (I missed the 'Where Are the Jewish Rock Stars' thread and don't feel like wading thru it.)

    Replies: @Trinity, @Harry Baldwin, @JimDandy, @YetAnotherAnon, @Hilarious Racism Reference

    David Lee Roth would be just behind them. I think the lead singer of The Raspberries, Eric Carmen was Jewish. The Raspberries were more pop than rock, even slightly bubblegum but I liked a couple hits.

    Cue: Go All The Way by The Raspberries

  36. It was absolutely painful this morning listening to some network newsman try to even-handedly explain this far-woke catfight without somehow stepping in it and getting himself canceled

  37. Both groups are widely seen as the most invested in — and vulnerable to — a recent rollback of reproductive rights and bodily autonomy.

    True. If the SCOTUS begins to reverse past decisions that were grounded in liberal opinion rather than the Constitution, the trans folks may lose some of the privileges they have been granted.

    LGBTQ justice at Political Research Associates, a left-leaning social justice research and strategy organization

    The media always describes far-left organizations as “left leaning.” Is there a group the media describes as “right leaning”? No, everything not left-leaning is “far-right” or “radical right.”

    The entity pictured on Bardon Kaldian’s link to “Transgender Coming Out in Africa” is impossible to identify as either a man or a woman (and I’m not going to watch the video). Its face is not at all feminine but I see many black woman who look like that. So whichever way that entity chooses to identify is probably of little interest to anyone.

    • Replies: @AndrewR
    @Harry Baldwin

    Speaking of SCOTUS, here is Lori Lightfoot shouting to a "Pride" crowd some words that have no business publicly coming from the mouth of the mayor of the third largest city in the US.

    https://youtu.be/KK1VGvbSv6M

    What makes this especially bizarre is that she has one of the most physically repulsive faces I've seen from anyone who wasn't the victim of major facial trauma, so no guy I know would want to have sex with her. Plus she is a lesbian, so she wouldn't want to have sex with any guy anyway. Plus she is 60 years old so she couldn't get pregnant either way. Yet she takes this as an assault on "our" rights. This is before we get into the fact that Illinois has some of the most liberal abortion laws in the US. What an awful timeline this is.

    , @AnotherDad
    @Harry Baldwin


    Both groups are widely seen as the most invested in — and vulnerable to — a recent rollback of reproductive rights and bodily autonomy.
     
    Abortion is the one notable issue where conservatives actual do propose restrictions on "bodily autonomy" (in favor of the fetus's bodily autonomy).

    There isn't even the hint of any conservative push against trannies "bodily autonomy". The whole issue--as with homosexual "marriage"--is a demand that normal people have to accept a sexual minority's dysfunction as "normal" and bend and twist their normal people norms around to accommodate the weirdos.

    In other words--like all of minoritarianism--the tranny thing is an attack upon the autonomy and rights of normal people to go about their business, living their lives with their norms and values.
  38. @The Anti-Gnostic
    @Trinity

    OT: That reminds me. Gene Simmons and Paul Stanley are the greatest Jewish rock stars and no other Jew is even close. Bob Dylan has the artistic and bohemian-celebrity chops but I don't really think 'rock star' for Bob Dylan. (I missed the 'Where Are the Jewish Rock Stars' thread and don't feel like wading thru it.)

    Replies: @Trinity, @Harry Baldwin, @JimDandy, @YetAnotherAnon, @Hilarious Racism Reference

    If you Google “Jewish Rock Stars” you’ll find some interesting names–Joey Ramone, Lesley Gore, David Lee Roth, Lou Reed, Leslie West, etc.

  39. The main point of these pieces is not to ‘explain the controversy’ but to inculcate the confused/uniniatiated into the acceptable limits of thought.

    • Agree: YetAnotherAnon
  40. @roonaldo
    Ooh, there's trouble in the loony bin between the menstruators/menopausers and the womenposers. If the fighting gets rough and they get sent to jail, just think of the glorious prison drama--tune in for Netflix's blockbuster lockup series "Wrongbody Bitch" as the Smells Like Tuna gang takes on the The Hole Shebanged roughians.

    At least there's a ray of hope that the translunacy bullshit has run its course and the pendulum is swinging back when even Superwokies like Bette Midler object.

    Replies: @Prester John

    I love a good catfight.

  41. Oh no, the trannies are upset AGAIN! I, I just have to crawl into my bed and have a good cry!

  42. SFG says:

    From a distance, Bette Midler can look like a friend even though we are at cultural war. But as Altai above said, it’s a generational thing. This is the left eating its own. Still, the transgender left couldn’t have gotten as far as they did if not for the prior generation of lefties-they really were the wind beneath their wings.

    • Thanks: Achmed E. Newman
    • LOL: Joe Joe
    • Replies: @Spangel226
    @SFG

    “From a distance…”

    Funny way to start a comment about bette midler. I couldn’t help imagining her singing the first sentence.

    Replies: @SFG

  43. It occurs to me that this must not all be grotesque mental illness. If fish in the water are showing messed up sexual construction ( and frogs, and so forth) it is at least possible that there is some deep poisoning event going on at the biological level.

    Or it could just be another manifestation of the relentless hysterical sexual degeneracy that characterizes our society.

    In any case, as I keep telling people over and over, you can’t engage crazy, only cauterize it.

    • Replies: @MEH 0910
    @theMann

    Dr. Shanna Swan on How Plastics in Food are Affecting Our Hormone Levels
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O1B44VmZFiI

  44. @Bardon Kaldian
    World goes trans ...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DlXHtiZFnVo

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=End2IqA5e1A

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GkA_c2Wzc7I

    Replies: @tyrone, @jamie b.

    World goes trans …

    ….oh don’t worry ,the real reset is coming ……i.e. political , economic collapse and world war ,the tranny thing will be a dim memory……ok worry.

  45. @The Anti-Gnostic
    @Trinity

    OT: That reminds me. Gene Simmons and Paul Stanley are the greatest Jewish rock stars and no other Jew is even close. Bob Dylan has the artistic and bohemian-celebrity chops but I don't really think 'rock star' for Bob Dylan. (I missed the 'Where Are the Jewish Rock Stars' thread and don't feel like wading thru it.)

    Replies: @Trinity, @Harry Baldwin, @JimDandy, @YetAnotherAnon, @Hilarious Racism Reference

    I think David Lee Roth was more of a genuine rock star, whereas those two were somewhat a novelty act.

    • Replies: @ScarletNumber
    @JimDandy

    I'm sure The Anti-Gnostic knows this, but Kiss discovered Van Halen, and the latter used to open for the former. I agree with JimDandy that DLR was more of a traditional rock star than Gene and Paul were. Paul's actual first name was Stanley, while his last name was Eisen. Making things even more confusing was that Ace's actual first name was Paul.

    Replies: @JimDandy, @The Anti-Gnostic

  46. How does something go viral? Because this needs to go viral:

    The ex-men are the Seal Team Six of cancel culture and they are backed by a vast army of not very bright females who Don’t Get the Joke, so please don’t cancel us.

  47. I won’t be bent out of shape if they end up cancelling Bette Mideler, but I know a few Korean ladies that might be:

    Do you know these women, Twinkie?

    • Replies: @tyrone
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Good one , Macaroni Midler came off pretty bad in that episode......close to the truth , nasty northern jew.

  48. “the Michigan Womyn’s Music Festival took a stand in favor of letting lesbians sit in folding camp chairs and listen to the Indigo Girls without being hit on by men in dresses who had declared themselves lesbians.”

    So much for the plan that having the Indigo Girls perform would keep men away. 😏

  49. Update: Gray was on the Today Show’s (last) superfluous hour which is staffed by the scion of the Bush family too dumb to get into Yale even with those connections together with an oddly named Hoda Kotb. The interview by Kotb began and proceeded with several questions about how “educated” Gray has become in roughly 48 hours sufficient to reverse her prior declaration. “Education,” you see, rather than the threat to tank her new album and with it the last vestiges of a long dwindling career.

    As far as struggle sessions go it was remarkable for how stupid the participants were.

    • Replies: @kaganovitch
    @Alec Leamas (working from home)

    As far as struggle sessions go it was remarkable for how stupid the participants were.

    I have to say, to me , there is nothing more dispiriting than watching struggle sessions. They really are crimes against humanity.

  50. Every human on earth owes you!

    That pretty much says it all – the Left belief system in a nutshell.
    I was raised to believe the opposite – that I owed everyone else, that I had a duty to serve others. I have since come to a more balanced view of life and embrace what I think is a reasonable amount of self-interest, but never have I thought that the world at large owed me anything.
    The Left just starts from wrong values, wrong psychology, wrong emotions. It’s selfish whine, whine, whine all the way down, masquerading as justice.

  51. @Buffalo Joe
    Tough to get the toothpaste back n the tube. My favorite recent quote concerning women comes with the new shortage of tampons which is effecting "women and other people with uteruses." And really, how is midler relevant in any news item. Do they still use publicists to get their name in print?

    Replies: @Almost Missouri, @SafeNow

    As the WaPo noted,

    Midler and Gray, who have long been seen as allies to the LGBTQ community

    I don’t know how “longtime allies” missed it, but the “T” in “LGBTQ” is for “trans”.

    As Rudyard noted,

    If you take the first step, you will take the last!

    As I keep saying,

    This is where your liberalism was always headed! … Welcome to the world you helped to build while you piously denounced those who correctly foresaw the fruits of your folly.

    You broke this bottle open, Bette, now you own it.

    Too late to apologize.

    • Agree: kaganovitch
  52. @SFG
    From a distance, Bette Midler can look like a friend even though we are at cultural war. But as Altai above said, it’s a generational thing. This is the left eating its own. Still, the transgender left couldn’t have gotten as far as they did if not for the prior generation of lefties-they really were the wind beneath their wings.

    Replies: @Spangel226

    “From a distance…”

    Funny way to start a comment about bette midler. I couldn’t help imagining her singing the first sentence.

    • Replies: @SFG
    @Spangel226

    Read the end again.


    (I agree with the statements though.)

  53. @HammerJack

    Don’t let them erase you!
     
    Right there with you, honey. It's disgraceful how women are being thrown under the bus for the sake of a small number of freaks.

    Every human on earth owes you!” she added.
     
    That part is slightly more mystifying. We hear it a lot.

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon, @Cool Daddy Jimbo, @AnotherDad

    “Right there with you, honey. It’s disgraceful how women are being thrown under the bus for the sake of a small number of freaks.”

    Trannies are the new puppy in the house. Everyone wants to play with it. Women are the old dog over in the corner, ignored by the entire family.

    • Agree: HammerJack
  54. @Achmed E. Newman
    I won't be bent out of shape if they end up cancelling Bette Mideler, but I know a few Korean ladies that might be:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4bRWVLEHZpk

    Do you know these women, Twinkie?

    Replies: @tyrone

    Good one , Macaroni Midler came off pretty bad in that episode……close to the truth , nasty northern jew.

  55. @MEH 0910

    Sly and the Family Stone
     
    https://open.spotify.com/album/0UM9SydcBtsklCTFgGLvcT
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greatest_Hits_(Sly_and_the_Family_Stone_album)

    Replies: @Cool Daddy Jimbo

    “Dance to the Music” is great. “All the squares go home!”

    • Replies: @ScarletNumber
    @Cool Daddy Jimbo

    Dance to the Music and Everyday People are the two songs most identified with S&tFS. Oddly enough, Sly Stone was born Sylvester Stewart, while Sylvester Stallone was born with that name. I wonder if that has caused confusion over the years.

  56. This is the first time I ever saw the washington post refer to a writer or group as “left-leaning.”

  57. @HammerJack

    We asked advocates and experts to contextualize what’s at play.
     
    I.e., the MSM is saying "Here's how to think about this."

    And how is it that there are experts everywhere now? It seems like every second or third person is an expert. Businesses used to call their employees "team members" to get them to behave. Now they're all "our team of experts." As in "Please hold while we get one of our team of experts to help you."

    You wouldn't dare question an expert, would you?

    Replies: @Jack D

    Yesterday I heard an interview on NPR with some woman talking about how the Supreme Court ruling was taking away rights from women, blah, blah, blah – standard pro-abortion stuff. But then the NPR reporter corrected her and said, “you mean people who are pregnant” and the abortion lady (I’m guessing older than the NPR reporter*) quickly corrected herself and said , “yes, yes, pregnant people.” You can get in big trouble on the Left if you don’t keep up with today’s Party Line and acceptable jargon. Jargon is used as a filtering tool to separate Good People from Bad People. Bad People are either ignorant hicks who don’t even know the jargon or they are, even worse, intelligent people who know the jargon but refuse to use it for ideological reasons which definitely identifies them as enemies. If you make your living as some sort of Leftist NGO type the last thing you can afford to be is an identified enemy.

    * You’ll notice that Bette Midler is not exactly a spring chicken. A lot of this stuff is generational where younger Leftists see trannies as just as normal as any other LGBXYZ flavor but older people, no matter how liberal, are stuck in their youth when everyone, even the most radical Leftists who were accepting of LGB, still saw trannies as freaks outside the pale.

    • Replies: @AndrewR
    @Jack D

    Idk what you mean by "older." The trans agenda wasn't mainstream until Bruce Jenner committed vehicular homicide in 2014 and decided he'd get off easier if he came out as trans. So you don't exactly have to be a senior citizen to remember the time when the trans mafia was essentially powerless. I don't know why anyone over 23 or so would go along with this stuff.

    S

    , @Achmed E. Newman
    @Jack D


    You can get in big trouble on the Left if you don’t keep up with today’s Party Line and acceptable jargon.
     
    Here's the problem that Miss Midler ran into, Jack. From iSteve's 3rd excerpt:

    In a tweet, Midler said her statement was in response to a “fascinating and well written” opinion piece that ran in the New York Times over the weekend, which argued that “women” was becoming a forbidden word, edged out by gender-neutral terms such as “pregnant people.”
     
    The NY Times said it was OK to not like that one piece of new jargon. The Washington Post does not agree with the NY Times on this one piece of jargon in the woke dogma.

    Whadda' supposed to do, when you get a conflict like this? Do you have to read all sources before you tweet a response? It's tough to be woke. It's like being a Party Apparatchik in the old USSR.
  58. I think we could all learn a lot if we just sat down together as a nation and watched 1994’s It’s Pat: The Movie.

    • LOL: Trinity
    • Replies: @Mike Tre
    @JimDandy

    Remember the term “fictional retelling?” Pat would be a nonfictional retelling.

  59. @The Anti-Gnostic
    @Trinity

    OT: That reminds me. Gene Simmons and Paul Stanley are the greatest Jewish rock stars and no other Jew is even close. Bob Dylan has the artistic and bohemian-celebrity chops but I don't really think 'rock star' for Bob Dylan. (I missed the 'Where Are the Jewish Rock Stars' thread and don't feel like wading thru it.)

    Replies: @Trinity, @Harry Baldwin, @JimDandy, @YetAnotherAnon, @Hilarious Racism Reference

    But the best Jewish rock star was Peter Green. Best white bluesman, best guitarist. But not a “rock star” who loved the life. Even his early John Mayall stuff like “Out Of Reach” is really bleak, how he’s so lonely and doesn’t have any friends.

    And becoming a star didn’t help.

    Now, when I talk to God, I know he’ll understand
    He said, “Stick by me and I’ll be your guiding hand
    But don’t ask me what I think of you
    I might not give the answer that you want me to”

    Shall I tell you about my life
    They say I’m a man of the world
    I’ve flown across every tide
    And I’ve seen lots of pretty girls
    I guess I’ve got everything I need
    I wouldn’t ask for more
    And there’s no one I’d rather be
    But I just wish that I had never been born

  60. These anti-trans feminists have recently found common ground — and increasing visibility and power — with conservative evangelical Christians, a group that has been largely credited with mobilizing, politically and socially, to curtail abortion and other reproductive rights.

    It was not evangelical Christians that overturned Roe. It was the Deplorables. MANY of us are neither Evangelical nor Republican. We are WAM’s. White American Men.

    • Agree: Bill Jones
  61. “Brian Wilson: a popular music genius whom drugs lifted into the stratosphere for a few years and then cast down.”

    Lots of people consider the BB’s earliest albums their best, before Brian was on drugs. Same for the Beatles and Lennon.

  62. Well, I’ve heard tell a stopped clock is right twice a day. So it’s not surprising that some of these stopped clocks will on occasion recognize the sheer idiocy of the postmodern orthodoxy they are supposed to receive and support.

  63. @Jack D
    @HammerJack

    Yesterday I heard an interview on NPR with some woman talking about how the Supreme Court ruling was taking away rights from women, blah, blah, blah - standard pro-abortion stuff. But then the NPR reporter corrected her and said, "you mean people who are pregnant" and the abortion lady (I'm guessing older than the NPR reporter*) quickly corrected herself and said , "yes, yes, pregnant people." You can get in big trouble on the Left if you don't keep up with today's Party Line and acceptable jargon. Jargon is used as a filtering tool to separate Good People from Bad People. Bad People are either ignorant hicks who don't even know the jargon or they are, even worse, intelligent people who know the jargon but refuse to use it for ideological reasons which definitely identifies them as enemies. If you make your living as some sort of Leftist NGO type the last thing you can afford to be is an identified enemy.

    * You'll notice that Bette Midler is not exactly a spring chicken. A lot of this stuff is generational where younger Leftists see trannies as just as normal as any other LGBXYZ flavor but older people, no matter how liberal, are stuck in their youth when everyone, even the most radical Leftists who were accepting of LGB, still saw trannies as freaks outside the pale.

    Replies: @AndrewR, @Achmed E. Newman

    Idk what you mean by “older.” The trans agenda wasn’t mainstream until Bruce Jenner committed vehicular homicide in 2014 and decided he’d get off easier if he came out as trans. So you don’t exactly have to be a senior citizen to remember the time when the trans mafia was essentially powerless. I don’t know why anyone over 23 or so would go along with this stuff.

    S

    • Agree: mc23
  64. @Harry Baldwin
    Both groups are widely seen as the most invested in — and vulnerable to — a recent rollback of reproductive rights and bodily autonomy.

    True. If the SCOTUS begins to reverse past decisions that were grounded in liberal opinion rather than the Constitution, the trans folks may lose some of the privileges they have been granted.

    LGBTQ justice at Political Research Associates, a left-leaning social justice research and strategy organization

    The media always describes far-left organizations as "left leaning." Is there a group the media describes as "right leaning"? No, everything not left-leaning is "far-right" or "radical right."

    The entity pictured on Bardon Kaldian's link to "Transgender Coming Out in Africa" is impossible to identify as either a man or a woman (and I'm not going to watch the video). Its face is not at all feminine but I see many black woman who look like that. So whichever way that entity chooses to identify is probably of little interest to anyone.

    Replies: @AndrewR, @AnotherDad

    Speaking of SCOTUS, here is Lori Lightfoot shouting to a “Pride” crowd some words that have no business publicly coming from the mouth of the mayor of the third largest city in the US.

    What makes this especially bizarre is that she has one of the most physically repulsive faces I’ve seen from anyone who wasn’t the victim of major facial trauma, so no guy I know would want to have sex with her. Plus she is a lesbian, so she wouldn’t want to have sex with any guy anyway. Plus she is 60 years old so she couldn’t get pregnant either way. Yet she takes this as an assault on “our” rights. This is before we get into the fact that Illinois has some of the most liberal abortion laws in the US. What an awful timeline this is.

    • Agree: Harry Baldwin
  65. Woman = A mature being capable of contributing the XX chromosomes to the human reproductive process.

  66. They were considered a fringe offshoot of the women’s right movement of the 1970s and are still a relatively small group, according to Heron Greenesmith, a senior research analyst for LGBTQ justice at Political Research Associates, a left-leaning social justice research and strategy organization. In recent years, Greenesmith has been monitoring and studying anti-trans feminists.

    I say:

    I prefer Green Heron to Heron Greenesmith, and all the experts agree with me.

    Green brings up Kelly green and the melancholic fans of the New York Jets.

    Some bond guy from the Third World — Mohamad El-Erian — is a fan of the New York Jets and this fandom misery might explain his cold-eyed view of central banking and asset bubbles and monetary policy.

    Another bond guy named Gundlach is a fan of the Buffalo Bills and he, from time to time, displays perceptive insights on the machinations of the globalized central banker shysters running amok.

    Gundlach and El-Erian have made big loot off the monetary extremism of the globalized central banks over the last few decades, and the 1981 Big Bang bond theory of overly tall Volcker. These two bond guys know damn well that over the last 40 years or so, the globalized central banks have inflated asset bubbles in stocks and bonds and real estate, and the jig may be up.

    Green Heron:

  67. The festival was picketed by Camp Trans starting in the 1990’s for its exclusionary policy.

    Camp Trans ladies sing this song, doo-dah, doo-dah
    The Womyn’s Fest won’t take a schlong, oh-de-doo-dah-day…
    Goin’ to march all night, goin’ to march all day
    They bet their money on the TERF TERF turf
    Nobody bet on the gay

    After all, who is more likely to need an abortion than Caitlyn Jenner?

    On the front of the Fæties box. Look for them in Aisle 7, just past where the homeless man took a dump.

  68. @Alec Leamas (working from home)
    Update: Gray was on the Today Show's (last) superfluous hour which is staffed by the scion of the Bush family too dumb to get into Yale even with those connections together with an oddly named Hoda Kotb. The interview by Kotb began and proceeded with several questions about how "educated" Gray has become in roughly 48 hours sufficient to reverse her prior declaration. "Education," you see, rather than the threat to tank her new album and with it the last vestiges of a long dwindling career.

    As far as struggle sessions go it was remarkable for how stupid the participants were.

    Replies: @kaganovitch

    As far as struggle sessions go it was remarkable for how stupid the participants were.

    I have to say, to me , there is nothing more dispiriting than watching struggle sessions. They really are crimes against humanity.

    • Agree: Muggles
    • LOL: AnotherDad
  69. @Harry Baldwin
    Both groups are widely seen as the most invested in — and vulnerable to — a recent rollback of reproductive rights and bodily autonomy.

    True. If the SCOTUS begins to reverse past decisions that were grounded in liberal opinion rather than the Constitution, the trans folks may lose some of the privileges they have been granted.

    LGBTQ justice at Political Research Associates, a left-leaning social justice research and strategy organization

    The media always describes far-left organizations as "left leaning." Is there a group the media describes as "right leaning"? No, everything not left-leaning is "far-right" or "radical right."

    The entity pictured on Bardon Kaldian's link to "Transgender Coming Out in Africa" is impossible to identify as either a man or a woman (and I'm not going to watch the video). Its face is not at all feminine but I see many black woman who look like that. So whichever way that entity chooses to identify is probably of little interest to anyone.

    Replies: @AndrewR, @AnotherDad

    Both groups are widely seen as the most invested in — and vulnerable to — a recent rollback of reproductive rights and bodily autonomy.

    Abortion is the one notable issue where conservatives actual do propose restrictions on “bodily autonomy” (in favor of the fetus’s bodily autonomy).

    There isn’t even the hint of any conservative push against trannies “bodily autonomy”. The whole issue–as with homosexual “marriage”–is a demand that normal people have to accept a sexual minority’s dysfunction as “normal” and bend and twist their normal people norms around to accommodate the weirdos.

    In other words–like all of minoritarianism–the tranny thing is an attack upon the autonomy and rights of normal people to go about their business, living their lives with their norms and values.

  70. @Mike Tre
    As someone said about Rowling a few months ago - her biggest grievance is that undeserved social privileges that had been set aside for females are being lost to the tranny movement. So her grievance is really about losing power. One cannot claim to both stand with the trannys and then complain about losing their female identity to them and be taken seriously.

    Also, that performance of Milder in the bathhouse is just nasty. She herself looks like a transvestite. And her "dancing" looks more along the lines of a seizure, or a nervous breakdown. It lacks any grace, rhythm, or control while she flails her arms and milk bags about. On the other hands, it is appropriately grotesque for the most grotesque of locations, so maybe she's a subtle genius and not just a promoter of perversion?


    NAAAAAAAAAA

    Replies: @Pop Warner, @Curle

    As someone said about Rowling a few months ago – her biggest grievance is that undeserved social privileges that had been set aside for females are being lost to the tranny movement. So her grievance is really about losing power. One cannot claim to both stand with the trannys and then complain about losing their female identity to them and be taken seriously.

    I’ve been saying this for years. Rowling doesn’t hate trannies because she’s based, she hates trannies because they’re men trying to get in her own privileges. She’s a white-hating, rapefugee-loving leftist who aligns with globohomo on every issue except one because she isn’t quite as suicidal as the average baizuo. This is true with every TERF, who predictably blame white men for all the ills of the world.

    • Agree: Gordo
    • Thanks: Mike Tre
  71. OFF TOPIC

    Boris Johnson is a poodle boy puppet whore for the JEW/WASP Ruling Class of the American Empire.

    Boris Johnson is pushing this shady Ukraine proxy war against Russia right up until he leaves office and gets a few bottles of booze and some beach reading books for his bon voyage from the Prime Minister’s office.

    No doubt the douchebags in MI-6 and the CIA and the ruling class of the American Empire nudged Boris Johnson towards this Russia nonsense.

    Germany must get nukes and the means to deliver them globally; NATO must be abolished; and the American Empire must leave Europe with a celebratory send off and beer bash at Ramstein Air Force Base.

  72. Apparently Bette Midler has always been popular with gay men. I found that out at a gay man’s house one night in Seal Beach in 1978. Warning: yet another Mohawk story follows, OT. I just need to write something:

    [MORE]

    A big Pacific storm hit the coast that year when I was staying with my sister and her husband, a block or so from the beach. So, I walked to the pier in my 1970s draw string pants that night with no underwear underneath. (That’s how I wore them around the beach, okay?)

    While I was leaning on the railing of the pier watching the big waves come in, another blond guy like me, but a bit older and more compact, walked up, leaned on the same railing and started watching the same storm waves next to me. We chatted and he invited me to walk over to his place. I didn’t know anybody in Seal Beach other than my sister and her husband and their friends, and I was 18 and even more naive than I am now, so I went along. Hey, I made a new friend in Seal Beach!

    In his living room, a block from my sister’s, he put on a Bette Midler album. “Isn’t she great?!” I didn’t know her at all, and I’m still not impressed, but he sure liked her!

    “Would you like something to drink?”

    “No, thank you. I don’t drink” (I’ve since made up for that.)

    A minute later, the blond, California man came back from his kitchen with a glass of what looked like orange juice. “This is a screwdriver. It’s orange juice but with a little bit of vodka in it.”

    I learned then what a screwdriver was, but I didn’t drink it.

    He sat down next to me on the sofa and listened to Bette Midler. I sat there politely, still not knowing what was going on.

    He mentioned that he was an importer of some kind, of things from Latin America. Hmm, I wonder now what he was importing…

    Bette Midler sang on…

    The fit, blonde man said he had a fantasy of going down the Amazon River on a small boat and finding me standing on the shore…

    What?!

    Then he reached over and put his arms around me. I laughed and leaned away.

    Then he got down on the floor and put his hands up one leg of my draw sting pants, rubbing my calve.

    Then I got up, still politely, embarrassedly laughing, and I said it was late and needed to go.

    I left.

    That was my first of many experiences of getting hit on by gay men. In truth, I always found it flattering, because it meant they found me attractive, and God knows gay men like attractive men — and that they looove Bette Midler.

    • LOL: Joe Joe
  73. @JimDandy
    I think we could all learn a lot if we just sat down together as a nation and watched 1994's It's Pat: The Movie.

    Replies: @Mike Tre

    Remember the term “fictional retelling?” Pat would be a nonfictional retelling.

  74. “Supreme Court Justice Ketanji Brown Jackson was asked how she would define a woman during her confirmation hearings, for example.

    ‘I’m not a biologist.’”

    The only appropriate reply to that is “Of course you’re not, honey. We all know women can’t be biologists. Now could you please just answer the question?’

    • Thanks: jsm
  75. World War Tranny Team Must Tell The Truth: Older Dames Got REAL Decolletage Too.

    You Betcha!

    Midler and Rowling and Gray got tits, too, but perhaps they ain’t such swell tits as Pelosi’s that they caught the eye of that Boston Leprechaun twat named Jack.

    Don’t know why the Twitter image of JFK staring at Pelosi’s tits and Hillary doing the same to some pop star’s tits stayed in my mind. Twitter must be made outrageous and weird again, hopefully Musk will make it happen.

    • Replies: @the one they call Desanex
    @Charles Pewitt

    Just say “no” to dugs.

    , @Mike Tre
    @Charles Pewitt

    Three beached whales.

    , @Joe S.Walker
    @Charles Pewitt

    An octogenarian with a rack? It's somebody's fantasy come true.

    , @Joe S.Walker
    @Charles Pewitt

    We can only hope that Pelosi won't follow this state senator...

    https://mobile.twitter.com/libsoftiktok/status/1544131356526948352

    Or dream she will, maybe.

  76. @JimDandy
    @The Anti-Gnostic

    I think David Lee Roth was more of a genuine rock star, whereas those two were somewhat a novelty act.

    Replies: @ScarletNumber

    I’m sure The Anti-Gnostic knows this, but Kiss discovered Van Halen, and the latter used to open for the former. I agree with JimDandy that DLR was more of a traditional rock star than Gene and Paul were. Paul’s actual first name was Stanley, while his last name was Eisen. Making things even more confusing was that Ace’s actual first name was Paul.

    • Replies: @JimDandy
    @ScarletNumber

    Thanks, I didn't know that Kiss discovered Van Halen, but I knew that Roth was the only guy around who owned a PA system, and he would only let Van Halen use it if he could be the guest singer. They hated Roth, but relented, and the rest is dysfunctional rock history. Adding to the web of intrigue, many say Roth totally ripped his stage persona off from... me.

    Replies: @Curle, @YetAnotherAnon

    , @The Anti-Gnostic
    @ScarletNumber

    Back in the 1980s I remember Paul Stanley dropped by a local radio station and had a friendly interview with the local DJs. They asked him what kind of car he drove and he kind of laughed and said he wasn't really into cars hahahaha. So the DJs started joking about how he was driving around in a sedan repaired with Bond-o hardeharhar. Any way, they stayed on the topic a bit with a strangely evasive Stanley. After a minute or so, it was apparent that Stanley was trying to be approachable and low-key with the local riffraff and didn't want to talk about the fact that he never actually gets behind the wheel; he has a chaffeur who drives him everywhere. Rock star.

    Replies: @HammerJack

  77. @theMann
    It occurs to me that this must not all be grotesque mental illness. If fish in the water are showing messed up sexual construction ( and frogs, and so forth) it is at least possible that there is some deep poisoning event going on at the biological level.

    Or it could just be another manifestation of the relentless hysterical sexual degeneracy that characterizes our society.


    In any case, as I keep telling people over and over, you can't engage crazy, only cauterize it.

    Replies: @MEH 0910

    Dr. Shanna Swan on How Plastics in Food are Affecting Our Hormone Levels

  78. @HammerJack

    Don’t let them erase you!
     
    Right there with you, honey. It's disgraceful how women are being thrown under the bus for the sake of a small number of freaks.

    Every human on earth owes you!” she added.
     
    That part is slightly more mystifying. We hear it a lot.

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon, @Cool Daddy Jimbo, @AnotherDad

    Every human on earth owes you!” she added.

    That part is slightly more mystifying. We hear it a lot.

    Actually, i’m fine with this notion–it’s true–as long as it comes with the traditional nod to sexual-dimorphism. Women are responsible for carrying and birthing and (usually) nursing every human on earth. It is a natural and beautiful and vitally important task. Men should acknowledge that.

    However, the flip side is that men are responsible for almost every useful material invention and scientific advance that makes our lives some much easier and richer and are still responsible for almost all the creation and maintenance of all the material infrastructure that makes life comfortable, pleasant and rewarding. Women need to acknowledge that–and get out of the way and let men do their creating and building and reasoning and leading and stop screwing stuff up with their emotional hissy fits.

    • Agree: jsm
    • Replies: @Buzz Mohawk
    @AnotherDad

    It's almost as if the natural evolution/creation of male+female humans yielded a workable, two-part system. You know, like, advantageous -- and so old, complex and established that nobody, nobody today can seriously even pretend to modify it or to criticize its success.

    Your comment is correct. Ding ding! You win a vacation on Carnival Cruise Lines! Let's hear the announcer tell us what you will enjoy...

    That's right Buzz! Dad wins a cruise that includes fights, hair-pulling and racial tension! That plus cheap, multi-level, stacked habitation on a floating petri dish!

    , @Bill Jones
    @AnotherDad

    The creation story in Genesis II (the older of the two creation stories according to J Peterson) has God creating Adam, deciding he shouldn't be alone and creating "an Helpmeet" JKV for him. Seeing it was good and blessed them.

    It is exactly backward. Women as the creator of new life have evolved to be fitter for that and the necessary nurturing of the offspring. Men have evolved to be better at everything else as befits their role of an helpmeet.
    So get on with the nurturing and out of the way girls. it will help.

  79. @AnotherDad
    @HammerJack



    Every human on earth owes you!” she added.
     
    That part is slightly more mystifying. We hear it a lot.
     
    Actually, i'm fine with this notion--it's true--as long as it comes with the traditional nod to sexual-dimorphism. Women are responsible for carrying and birthing and (usually) nursing every human on earth. It is a natural and beautiful and vitally important task. Men should acknowledge that.

    However, the flip side is that men are responsible for almost every useful material invention and scientific advance that makes our lives some much easier and richer and are still responsible for almost all the creation and maintenance of all the material infrastructure that makes life comfortable, pleasant and rewarding. Women need to acknowledge that--and get out of the way and let men do their creating and building and reasoning and leading and stop screwing stuff up with their emotional hissy fits.

    Replies: @Buzz Mohawk, @Bill Jones

    It’s almost as if the natural evolution/creation of male+female humans yielded a workable, two-part system. You know, like, advantageous — and so old, complex and established that nobody, nobody today can seriously even pretend to modify it or to criticize its success.

    Your comment is correct. Ding ding! You win a vacation on Carnival Cruise Lines! Let’s hear the announcer tell us what you will enjoy…

    That’s right Buzz! Dad wins a cruise that includes fights, hair-pulling and racial tension! That plus cheap, multi-level, stacked habitation on a floating petri dish!

  80. @Cool Daddy Jimbo
    @MEH 0910

    "Dance to the Music" is great. "All the squares go home!"

    Replies: @ScarletNumber

    Dance to the Music and Everyday People are the two songs most identified with S&tFS. Oddly enough, Sly Stone was born Sylvester Stewart, while Sylvester Stallone was born with that name. I wonder if that has caused confusion over the years.

  81. @ScarletNumber
    @JimDandy

    I'm sure The Anti-Gnostic knows this, but Kiss discovered Van Halen, and the latter used to open for the former. I agree with JimDandy that DLR was more of a traditional rock star than Gene and Paul were. Paul's actual first name was Stanley, while his last name was Eisen. Making things even more confusing was that Ace's actual first name was Paul.

    Replies: @JimDandy, @The Anti-Gnostic

    Thanks, I didn’t know that Kiss discovered Van Halen, but I knew that Roth was the only guy around who owned a PA system, and he would only let Van Halen use it if he could be the guest singer. They hated Roth, but relented, and the rest is dysfunctional rock history. Adding to the web of intrigue, many say Roth totally ripped his stage persona off from… me.

    • Replies: @Curle
    @JimDandy

    Roth had an uncle in the music business, an agent I think. That’s what Roth brought to the table. Also, calls into question the idea that KISS discovered him. They may have known Roth’s uncle.

    Replies: @Thea, @ScarletNumber

    , @YetAnotherAnon
    @JimDandy

    "Adding to the web of intrigue, many say Roth totally ripped his stage persona off from… me."

    I always did like Black Oak Arkansas.

  82. @Buffalo Joe
    Tough to get the toothpaste back n the tube. My favorite recent quote concerning women comes with the new shortage of tampons which is effecting "women and other people with uteruses." And really, how is midler relevant in any news item. Do they still use publicists to get their name in print?

    Replies: @Almost Missouri, @SafeNow

    Tough to get the toothpaste back n the tube.

    I embrace disappearing idioms, so thank you for that! I would give some examples, but I have to shuffle off to Buffalo.

  83. To paraphrase that great gender fluid statesman, George Wallace.

    Leftist autophagy today, leftist autophagy tomorrow, leftist autophagy FOREVER!!!

  84. @Charles Pewitt
    World War Tranny Team Must Tell The Truth: Older Dames Got REAL Decolletage Too.

    You Betcha!

    Midler and Rowling and Gray got tits, too, but perhaps they ain't such swell tits as Pelosi's that they caught the eye of that Boston Leprechaun twat named Jack.

    Don't know why the Twitter image of JFK staring at Pelosi's tits and Hillary doing the same to some pop star's tits stayed in my mind. Twitter must be made outrageous and weird again, hopefully Musk will make it happen.

    https://twitter.com/bennyjohnson/status/1545076916365008898?s=20&t=kl-OCwqFgXMFvQeU_NiAKQ

    https://twitter.com/FoxNews/status/1545067648475709440?s=20&t=8bm-d265BunzWaCrPN1RFg

    Replies: @the one they call Desanex, @Mike Tre, @Joe S.Walker, @Joe S.Walker

    Just say “no” to dugs.

    • LOL: Kylie
  85. @Charles Pewitt
    World War Tranny Team Must Tell The Truth: Older Dames Got REAL Decolletage Too.

    You Betcha!

    Midler and Rowling and Gray got tits, too, but perhaps they ain't such swell tits as Pelosi's that they caught the eye of that Boston Leprechaun twat named Jack.

    Don't know why the Twitter image of JFK staring at Pelosi's tits and Hillary doing the same to some pop star's tits stayed in my mind. Twitter must be made outrageous and weird again, hopefully Musk will make it happen.

    https://twitter.com/bennyjohnson/status/1545076916365008898?s=20&t=kl-OCwqFgXMFvQeU_NiAKQ

    https://twitter.com/FoxNews/status/1545067648475709440?s=20&t=8bm-d265BunzWaCrPN1RFg

    Replies: @the one they call Desanex, @Mike Tre, @Joe S.Walker, @Joe S.Walker

    Three beached whales.

  86. As I mentioned in my 1994 article “Why Lesbians Aren’t Gay,” the Michigan Womyn’s Music Festival took a stand in favor of letting lesbians sit in folding camp chairs and listen to the Indigo Girls without being hit on by men in dresses who had declared themselves lesbians.

    Is that really too much to ask?

    No.

    But much more important would be that normal productive heterosexual men can go through their lives without ever having to be bossed around or tediously “instructed” or “corrected” by some annoying lesbian apparatchik.

    Actually, men should be able to go through their work lives–especially in any traditional male field, engineering, military, construction, mining, oil+gas, industrial production, policing–and never have to take direction from any woman.

    (A man should take direction–in appropriate spheres–from women who’ve produced his close relatives. His mom, his grandmoms, his wife, his daughters–later in life when they’ve produced grandchildren and are at the center of the family. That’s it.)

    I don’t think Islam–which seems to subtract about 5 IQ points of societal functionality–is going to “win” in the end unless the Chinese really, really screw up. This current bozo Xi is exactly lighting it up brilliant decision making, but they Chicoms have taken steps to reign in wokeism/feminization. They at least seem to see the danger.

    It’s hard to see the West even surviving with this culture where normal men have to listen to finger wagging from tedious lesbians and earnest nice white ladies. If it wasn’t for some even dumber minoritarian ideas, it would be hard to think of an idea so at odds with nature and societal survival.

    • Agree: Kylie, jsm
    • Replies: @Pixo
    @AnotherDad

    “ Chicoms have taken steps to reign in wokeism/feminization”

    I keep hearing this from conservative sinophiles, but cannot reconcile this claim with China’s plunging birthrate, projected to be 1.08 tfr in 2022, compared to our decadent globohomo American rate of 1.64 and kinky squidalingus-woodblock-carving capitalist Japan’s 1.30.

  87. Just this morning Mrs. Prude was telling me that her best friend’s son, who has taken to calling himself Alexandra and putting on tranny airs, said he was moving to Holland because of the demise Roe v. Wade.

    I helpfully advised “His mother should tell him he can’t get pregnant from anal sex…”

    People of penis getting upset by the loss of emanations and penumbras? This world is nuts.

    • Replies: @epebble
    @Old Prude

    This world is nuts


    Same-sex couple sues fertility clinic over alleged wrong sex embryo implant

    A same-sex couple has filed a lawsuit against a Pasadena in-vitro fertilization clinic, claiming that their hopes of having a son were hampered after a female embryo was wrongly implanted in their surrogate and they instead had a daughter born in 2021.

    Albert and Anthony Saniger filed the lawsuit against HRC Fertility and fertility specialist Dr. Bradford A Kolb, alleging breach of contract, medical malpractice, negligence and fraudulent concealment and violation of the Unfair Competition Law and the Consumer Legal Remedies Act.

    The suit was brought on Friday in Los Angeles Superior Court and seeks unspecified damages.

    HRC released a statement saying, "At HRC Fertility, our mission is to provide world-class care. We have helped thousands of people, including the couple involved in this lawsuit. The couple ideally desired a baby boy but were blessed with a healthy girl. To their dissatisfaction, we have sought to address their concerns. Every child has value and limitless potential regardless of gender."

    "We hope the Sanigers find love and value in their healthy child while so many across the country are struggling with reproductive issues. Since 1988, we have remained and continue to remain, dedicated to helping hopeful parents build families through assisted reproductive technology, compassion, expertise, innovation, cutting edge research and personalized care."
    .................



    https://www.cbsnews.com/losangeles/news/same-sex-couple-sues-fertility-clinic-over-alleged-wrong-sex-embryo-implant/

     

    Replies: @epebble

  88. @MB

    Supreme Court Justice Ketanji Brown Jackson was asked how she would define a woman during her confirmation hearings, for example.

    “I’m not a biologist.”
     
    Next question for our genius jurist is: Are you a woman/How can you tell/Are you sure?

    Runner up: What is your name?

    Runner up #2: How can you defend a woman's right to kill her child, when you can't tell us what a woman is?

    Runner up #1 to Runner up #2: How many fingers am I holding up, 26 or 32?

    Replies: @Jonathan Mason, @Muggles

    The correct answer to that would be that she would get back later with a written response, but that it would depend on the context of the law in question.

  89. @Jack D
    @HammerJack

    Yesterday I heard an interview on NPR with some woman talking about how the Supreme Court ruling was taking away rights from women, blah, blah, blah - standard pro-abortion stuff. But then the NPR reporter corrected her and said, "you mean people who are pregnant" and the abortion lady (I'm guessing older than the NPR reporter*) quickly corrected herself and said , "yes, yes, pregnant people." You can get in big trouble on the Left if you don't keep up with today's Party Line and acceptable jargon. Jargon is used as a filtering tool to separate Good People from Bad People. Bad People are either ignorant hicks who don't even know the jargon or they are, even worse, intelligent people who know the jargon but refuse to use it for ideological reasons which definitely identifies them as enemies. If you make your living as some sort of Leftist NGO type the last thing you can afford to be is an identified enemy.

    * You'll notice that Bette Midler is not exactly a spring chicken. A lot of this stuff is generational where younger Leftists see trannies as just as normal as any other LGBXYZ flavor but older people, no matter how liberal, are stuck in their youth when everyone, even the most radical Leftists who were accepting of LGB, still saw trannies as freaks outside the pale.

    Replies: @AndrewR, @Achmed E. Newman

    You can get in big trouble on the Left if you don’t keep up with today’s Party Line and acceptable jargon.

    Here’s the problem that Miss Midler ran into, Jack. From iSteve’s 3rd excerpt:

    In a tweet, Midler said her statement was in response to a “fascinating and well written” opinion piece that ran in the New York Times over the weekend, which argued that “women” was becoming a forbidden word, edged out by gender-neutral terms such as “pregnant people.”

    The NY Times said it was OK to not like that one piece of new jargon. The Washington Post does not agree with the NY Times on this one piece of jargon in the woke dogma.

    Whadda’ supposed to do, when you get a conflict like this? Do you have to read all sources before you tweet a response? It’s tough to be woke. It’s like being a Party Apparatchik in the old USSR.

  90. @ScarletNumber
    @JimDandy

    I'm sure The Anti-Gnostic knows this, but Kiss discovered Van Halen, and the latter used to open for the former. I agree with JimDandy that DLR was more of a traditional rock star than Gene and Paul were. Paul's actual first name was Stanley, while his last name was Eisen. Making things even more confusing was that Ace's actual first name was Paul.

    Replies: @JimDandy, @The Anti-Gnostic

    Back in the 1980s I remember Paul Stanley dropped by a local radio station and had a friendly interview with the local DJs. They asked him what kind of car he drove and he kind of laughed and said he wasn’t really into cars hahahaha. So the DJs started joking about how he was driving around in a sedan repaired with Bond-o hardeharhar. Any way, they stayed on the topic a bit with a strangely evasive Stanley. After a minute or so, it was apparent that Stanley was trying to be approachable and low-key with the local riffraff and didn’t want to talk about the fact that he never actually gets behind the wheel; he has a chaffeur who drives him everywhere. Rock star.

    • Replies: @HammerJack
    @The Anti-Gnostic


    he never actually gets behind the wheel; he has a chaffeur who drives him everywhere. Rock star.
     
    Or just Rich Jew. Who knows, really?

    Replies: @The Anti-Gnostic

  91. @Charles Pewitt
    World War Tranny Team Must Tell The Truth: Older Dames Got REAL Decolletage Too.

    You Betcha!

    Midler and Rowling and Gray got tits, too, but perhaps they ain't such swell tits as Pelosi's that they caught the eye of that Boston Leprechaun twat named Jack.

    Don't know why the Twitter image of JFK staring at Pelosi's tits and Hillary doing the same to some pop star's tits stayed in my mind. Twitter must be made outrageous and weird again, hopefully Musk will make it happen.

    https://twitter.com/bennyjohnson/status/1545076916365008898?s=20&t=kl-OCwqFgXMFvQeU_NiAKQ

    https://twitter.com/FoxNews/status/1545067648475709440?s=20&t=8bm-d265BunzWaCrPN1RFg

    Replies: @the one they call Desanex, @Mike Tre, @Joe S.Walker, @Joe S.Walker

    An octogenarian with a rack? It’s somebody’s fantasy come true.

    • LOL: HammerJack, notsaying
  92. @Charles Pewitt
    World War Tranny Team Must Tell The Truth: Older Dames Got REAL Decolletage Too.

    You Betcha!

    Midler and Rowling and Gray got tits, too, but perhaps they ain't such swell tits as Pelosi's that they caught the eye of that Boston Leprechaun twat named Jack.

    Don't know why the Twitter image of JFK staring at Pelosi's tits and Hillary doing the same to some pop star's tits stayed in my mind. Twitter must be made outrageous and weird again, hopefully Musk will make it happen.

    https://twitter.com/bennyjohnson/status/1545076916365008898?s=20&t=kl-OCwqFgXMFvQeU_NiAKQ

    https://twitter.com/FoxNews/status/1545067648475709440?s=20&t=8bm-d265BunzWaCrPN1RFg

    Replies: @the one they call Desanex, @Mike Tre, @Joe S.Walker, @Joe S.Walker

    We can only hope that Pelosi won’t follow this state senator…

    https://mobile.twitter.com/libsoftiktok/status/1544131356526948352

    Or dream she will, maybe.

  93. @Mike Tre
    As someone said about Rowling a few months ago - her biggest grievance is that undeserved social privileges that had been set aside for females are being lost to the tranny movement. So her grievance is really about losing power. One cannot claim to both stand with the trannys and then complain about losing their female identity to them and be taken seriously.

    Also, that performance of Milder in the bathhouse is just nasty. She herself looks like a transvestite. And her "dancing" looks more along the lines of a seizure, or a nervous breakdown. It lacks any grace, rhythm, or control while she flails her arms and milk bags about. On the other hands, it is appropriately grotesque for the most grotesque of locations, so maybe she's a subtle genius and not just a promoter of perversion?


    NAAAAAAAAAA

    Replies: @Pop Warner, @Curle

    “undeserved social privileges that had been set aside for females are being lost to the tranny movement.”

    Your mom and sister don’t deserve social privileges?

    • Replies: @Mike Tre
    @Curle

    Not the undeserved ones. (I don't have a sister)

    Replies: @Curle

    , @Dr. DoomNGloom
    @Curle


    “undeserved social privileges that had been set aside for females are being lost to the tranny movement.”

    Your mom and sister don’t deserve social privileges?
     
    Let's put it this way, sandbagging is a dick move. It might not be illegal, but it's unethical. In the case of woman's sports, it's unsportsmanlike. (one way to sandbag is to enter competition at a competitive level for which you are overqualified).
    Ex men who want to present as women to enter any competition that had been sex selected is sandbagging.
    1) the competition is segregated for competitive reasons resulting from sexual dimorphism for which the male body provides prohibitive advantage that exclude females.
    2) the ex men acknowledge they "were born in the wrong body".
    3) they knowingly take that wrong body into the female competition.
    Hence, they are

    sandbaggers.
     
    and all sandbaggers are dicks.

    They claim to seek acceptance. Yet, act like dicks, by engaging in socially a reprehensible sandbagging behavior. A desire for acceptance lacks face plausibility. They are just being dicks.

    A plausible bid for acceptance would include joining a knitting circle, book of the month, or a bridge club.
  94. @Curle
    @Mike Tre

    “undeserved social privileges that had been set aside for females are being lost to the tranny movement.”

    Your mom and sister don’t deserve social privileges?

    Replies: @Mike Tre, @Dr. DoomNGloom

    Not the undeserved ones. (I don’t have a sister)

    • Replies: @Curle
    @Mike Tre

    Let me rephrase, what social privileges are the trannies picking up from women that neither should have? I’m thinking that: 1) access to their own bathrooms is an privilege women deserve; 2) their own sports system; 3) their own schools if they want them; 4) their own clubs if they want them (and so should men); and 5) their own dressing rooms.

    Replies: @Mike Tre, @Alec Leamas (hard at work)

  95. Here’s why

    When did the Washington Post start publiahing clickbait-style headlines?

    Democracy dies in dumbness?

    • Replies: @Dr. DoomNGloom
    @Chrisnonymous


    When did the Washington Post start publiahing clickbait-style headlines?

    Democracy dies in dumbness?
     
    Democracy dies in dimness?
  96. @JimDandy
    @ScarletNumber

    Thanks, I didn't know that Kiss discovered Van Halen, but I knew that Roth was the only guy around who owned a PA system, and he would only let Van Halen use it if he could be the guest singer. They hated Roth, but relented, and the rest is dysfunctional rock history. Adding to the web of intrigue, many say Roth totally ripped his stage persona off from... me.

    Replies: @Curle, @YetAnotherAnon

    Roth had an uncle in the music business, an agent I think. That’s what Roth brought to the table. Also, calls into question the idea that KISS discovered him. They may have known Roth’s uncle.

    • Replies: @Thea
    @Curle

    That reminds me of the lead singer of Ratt. Milton Berle was his uncle. They used him in a video for their one hit. Whatever his name was he must count as a Jewish Rock Star by 1980s standards.

    Replies: @ScarletNumber

    , @ScarletNumber
    @Curle

    JimDandy is correct. Manny Roth founded Cafe Wha? in Greenwich Village in 1959 and owned and operated it for nine years. He left show business after that, though. Van Halen chose DLR as their vocalist because it was easier than renting the sound system from him every night.

    Replies: @Curle

  97. @AnotherDad

    As I mentioned in my 1994 article “Why Lesbians Aren’t Gay,” the Michigan Womyn’s Music Festival took a stand in favor of letting lesbians sit in folding camp chairs and listen to the Indigo Girls without being hit on by men in dresses who had declared themselves lesbians.

    Is that really too much to ask?
     
    No.

    But much more important would be that normal productive heterosexual men can go through their lives without ever having to be bossed around or tediously "instructed" or "corrected" by some annoying lesbian apparatchik.

    Actually, men should be able to go through their work lives--especially in any traditional male field, engineering, military, construction, mining, oil+gas, industrial production, policing--and never have to take direction from any woman.

    (A man should take direction--in appropriate spheres--from women who've produced his close relatives. His mom, his grandmoms, his wife, his daughters--later in life when they've produced grandchildren and are at the center of the family. That's it.)

    I don't think Islam--which seems to subtract about 5 IQ points of societal functionality--is going to "win" in the end unless the Chinese really, really screw up. This current bozo Xi is exactly lighting it up brilliant decision making, but they Chicoms have taken steps to reign in wokeism/feminization. They at least seem to see the danger.

    It's hard to see the West even surviving with this culture where normal men have to listen to finger wagging from tedious lesbians and earnest nice white ladies. If it wasn't for some even dumber minoritarian ideas, it would be hard to think of an idea so at odds with nature and societal survival.

    Replies: @Pixo

    “ Chicoms have taken steps to reign in wokeism/feminization”

    I keep hearing this from conservative sinophiles, but cannot reconcile this claim with China’s plunging birthrate, projected to be 1.08 tfr in 2022, compared to our decadent globohomo American rate of 1.64 and kinky squidalingus-woodblock-carving capitalist Japan’s 1.30.

  98. @Spangel226
    @SFG

    “From a distance…”

    Funny way to start a comment about bette midler. I couldn’t help imagining her singing the first sentence.

    Replies: @SFG

    Read the end again.

    (I agree with the statements though.)

  99. OT, but interesting straws to add to the increasing contradictions weighing on the coalition of the fringes:

    Karine Jean-Pierre: Asian American parents who oppose racial quotas in college admissions are “extreme” and “ultra MAGA”

    https://nypost.com/2022/07/06/self-defense-is-a-right-its-time-for-nyc-to-ditch-alvin-bragg/

    Thanks to Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg, New York is a city turned upside down.

    Get caught with an illegal gun, get released without bail. Shove an elderly person to the ground, attack someone because they are Asian, a slap on the wrist. Shoplift again . . . and again . . . and again . . . nothing.

    But defend yourself and your place of business from a man who attacks you, and Bragg sends you to Rikers.

    Jose Alba, 51, was working at a bodega on Broadway near West 139th Street late last Friday night. A woman came in wanting chips and couldn’t pay; Alba wouldn’t give them to her for free.

    Furious, the woman’s boyfriend, Austin Simon, 35, went behind the counter and confronted Alba. Video of the incident clearly shows Simon is the aggressor. He yells at Alba, gets in his personal space, then shoves him into the wall.

    While Simon continues to rant, Alba gets up and tries to leave. Simon grabs him by the back of the neck.

    It’s at this point that Alba takes a knife off a nearby shelf and stabs Simon. The two continue to fight, falling off camera, until Alba comes back into frame — his arm wounded, bleeding, perhaps because he was stabbed by Simon’s girlfriend. A bloody knife in his hands.

    “He was cornered in,” Alba’s daughter, Yulissa, tells The Post. “As you can see in the video, he was cornered in, and when he saw himself getting taken outside, he thought his life was being threatened and he defended himself.”

    • Replies: @notsaying
    @Johann Ricke

    RNC Research is not being honest here.

    Jean-Pierre didn't mention Asians at all in this clip. She only mentioned Republicans and the Supreme Court in her statement on this video as parties to blame.

    Now it is true that many Asians disagree with the Democratic Party on this but she said nothing about them here. Pretty disappointing to see them just outright lying about what she said.

    Replies: @Curle, @Johann Ricke

  100. @JimDandy
    @ScarletNumber

    Thanks, I didn't know that Kiss discovered Van Halen, but I knew that Roth was the only guy around who owned a PA system, and he would only let Van Halen use it if he could be the guest singer. They hated Roth, but relented, and the rest is dysfunctional rock history. Adding to the web of intrigue, many say Roth totally ripped his stage persona off from... me.

    Replies: @Curle, @YetAnotherAnon

    “Adding to the web of intrigue, many say Roth totally ripped his stage persona off from… me.”

    I always did like Black Oak Arkansas.

  101. @Anon
    Can someone explain how states exercising their newfound right to ban abortion is going to benefit me?

    Replies: @Ralph L

    More workers in 20 years to pay for your SS and Medicare.

    • Replies: @Anon
    @Ralph L

    It's highly unlikely that non-aborted members of the underclass will pay more in taxes than they collect in benefits.

  102. It’s simply amazing that Feminists who recognize biology, male and female are labeled as Terfs. Trans Exclusionary Radical Feminists. Women who know that they are different from men and realize men can’t actually become women aren’t just Feminists, they’re Radical Feminists.

    The mentally ill who believe somehow a gender construction trumps biological sex are just the plain old garden variety feminists.

  103. OT — I want you to use all your powers and your skills as a blogger. I don’t want his mother to see him like this.
    https://nypost.com/2022/07/07/james-caan-the-godfather-and-misery-star-dead-at-82/

    • Replies: @MEH 0910
    @J.Ross

    Deaths come in threes. James Caan, Shinzo Abe, and now Larry Storch:

    https://nypost.com/2022/07/08/larry-storch-guest-star-known-for-f-troop-dies-at-99/
    https://twitter.com/nypost/status/1545451992985780228

    Replies: @MEH 0910

  104. @Thoughts
    Bette Midler is just trying to get Mid America back on her side in time for Hocus Pocus

    Bette Midler has spent the last few Decades being the ugliest anti-American she can be

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Gordo

    Bette Midler is just trying to get Mid America back on her side in time for Hocus Pocus

    Bette Midler has spent the last few Decades being the ugliest anti-American she can be

    Like Barack Obama, she wasn’t born in America, but in the illegally occupied Kingdom of Hawaii.

    • Replies: @ScarletNumber
    @Reg Cæsar

    If Obama was two years older, the 2008 presidential race would have been between two candidates who were not born in the united states.

  105. @Old Prude
    Just this morning Mrs. Prude was telling me that her best friend's son, who has taken to calling himself Alexandra and putting on tranny airs, said he was moving to Holland because of the demise Roe v. Wade.

    I helpfully advised "His mother should tell him he can't get pregnant from anal sex..."

    People of penis getting upset by the loss of emanations and penumbras? This world is nuts.

    Replies: @epebble

    This world is nuts

    Same-sex couple sues fertility clinic over alleged wrong sex embryo implant

    A same-sex couple has filed a lawsuit against a Pasadena in-vitro fertilization clinic, claiming that their hopes of having a son were hampered after a female embryo was wrongly implanted in their surrogate and they instead had a daughter born in 2021.

    Albert and Anthony Saniger filed the lawsuit against HRC Fertility and fertility specialist Dr. Bradford A Kolb, alleging breach of contract, medical malpractice, negligence and fraudulent concealment and violation of the Unfair Competition Law and the Consumer Legal Remedies Act.

    The suit was brought on Friday in Los Angeles Superior Court and seeks unspecified damages.

    HRC released a statement saying, “At HRC Fertility, our mission is to provide world-class care. We have helped thousands of people, including the couple involved in this lawsuit. The couple ideally desired a baby boy but were blessed with a healthy girl. To their dissatisfaction, we have sought to address their concerns. Every child has value and limitless potential regardless of gender.”

    “We hope the Sanigers find love and value in their healthy child while so many across the country are struggling with reproductive issues. Since 1988, we have remained and continue to remain, dedicated to helping hopeful parents build families through assisted reproductive technology, compassion, expertise, innovation, cutting edge research and personalized care.”
    ……………..

    https://www.cbsnews.com/losangeles/news/same-sex-couple-sues-fertility-clinic-over-alleged-wrong-sex-embryo-implant/

    • Replies: @epebble
    @epebble

    For some additional chuckles:


    Before they were wed, the couple chose first and middle names for their future sons in May 2015 and created Gmail accounts for their future offspring with their first and last names, according to the lawsuit.
     
  106. @Altai
    The irony is that psychologically J.K. Rowling is no different to the young women most stridently denouncing her.

    The difference is merely the year they were born. That's why it's so viscous and they haven't come to terms with this yet, that's why they were such turbo fans of her work to begin with. To those girls it doesn't make sense that Rowling doesn't have the same opinions as them and they get particularly mad at her for not having them.

    The very thing people like Rowling wanted, Lisa Simpsons like herself having profound power and influence has come to pass to the greatest degree yet seen and now that world has turned on her. They don't get the joke.

    Replies: @S. Anonyia

    Whatever you think of her political views, Rowling has genuine creativity and talent that the Lisa Simpsons of the world lack (they are mediocre grinds). People with those qualities are generally not enthusiastically into the gender theory woo. The mediocrities love it because reciting the mantras gives them immense power over their betters.

    So I suspect even if Rowling were younger she would be a “terf,” albeit slightly less vocal due to fear.

  107. @Bardon Kaldian
    World goes trans ...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DlXHtiZFnVo

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=End2IqA5e1A

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GkA_c2Wzc7I

    Replies: @tyrone, @jamie b.

    Thai ladyboys are hardly a new thing. They’ve been around for generations.

  108. @epebble
    @Old Prude

    This world is nuts


    Same-sex couple sues fertility clinic over alleged wrong sex embryo implant

    A same-sex couple has filed a lawsuit against a Pasadena in-vitro fertilization clinic, claiming that their hopes of having a son were hampered after a female embryo was wrongly implanted in their surrogate and they instead had a daughter born in 2021.

    Albert and Anthony Saniger filed the lawsuit against HRC Fertility and fertility specialist Dr. Bradford A Kolb, alleging breach of contract, medical malpractice, negligence and fraudulent concealment and violation of the Unfair Competition Law and the Consumer Legal Remedies Act.

    The suit was brought on Friday in Los Angeles Superior Court and seeks unspecified damages.

    HRC released a statement saying, "At HRC Fertility, our mission is to provide world-class care. We have helped thousands of people, including the couple involved in this lawsuit. The couple ideally desired a baby boy but were blessed with a healthy girl. To their dissatisfaction, we have sought to address their concerns. Every child has value and limitless potential regardless of gender."

    "We hope the Sanigers find love and value in their healthy child while so many across the country are struggling with reproductive issues. Since 1988, we have remained and continue to remain, dedicated to helping hopeful parents build families through assisted reproductive technology, compassion, expertise, innovation, cutting edge research and personalized care."
    .................



    https://www.cbsnews.com/losangeles/news/same-sex-couple-sues-fertility-clinic-over-alleged-wrong-sex-embryo-implant/

     

    Replies: @epebble

    For some additional chuckles:

    Before they were wed, the couple chose first and middle names for their future sons in May 2015 and created Gmail accounts for their future offspring with their first and last names, according to the lawsuit.

    • Thanks: Old Prude
  109. @AnotherDad
    @HammerJack



    Every human on earth owes you!” she added.
     
    That part is slightly more mystifying. We hear it a lot.
     
    Actually, i'm fine with this notion--it's true--as long as it comes with the traditional nod to sexual-dimorphism. Women are responsible for carrying and birthing and (usually) nursing every human on earth. It is a natural and beautiful and vitally important task. Men should acknowledge that.

    However, the flip side is that men are responsible for almost every useful material invention and scientific advance that makes our lives some much easier and richer and are still responsible for almost all the creation and maintenance of all the material infrastructure that makes life comfortable, pleasant and rewarding. Women need to acknowledge that--and get out of the way and let men do their creating and building and reasoning and leading and stop screwing stuff up with their emotional hissy fits.

    Replies: @Buzz Mohawk, @Bill Jones

    The creation story in Genesis II (the older of the two creation stories according to J Peterson) has God creating Adam, deciding he shouldn’t be alone and creating “an Helpmeet” JKV for him. Seeing it was good and blessed them.

    It is exactly backward. Women as the creator of new life have evolved to be fitter for that and the necessary nurturing of the offspring. Men have evolved to be better at everything else as befits their role of an helpmeet.
    So get on with the nurturing and out of the way girls. it will help.

    • Agree: Old Prude
  110. @Anon
    In the same vein as the WaPo, at New York Magazine:

    The Right’s Dangerous ‘Just Asking Questions’ Anti-Trans Campaign Is Working
    https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2022/07/the-just-asking-questions-anti-trans-campaign-is-working.html

    Despite mountains of evidence, the movie’s producers and onscreen guide, right-wing pundit Matt Walsh, do not believe that people can change their gender....

    By disguising a religious precept as a reasonable question, Walsh and his team have set out to win new friends and encourage existing allies at the same time. It’s an effective strategy, and the majority of us who understand the factual existence of trans people can’t afford to ignore them....

    Walsh seems to be looking for what’s called an “essentialist” definition of woman — a common mistake for students in the first semester of a 101 class.
     
    The writer of this, a Malcolm Harris, who came into the public eye during Occupy Wall Street, blames these TERFs for a supposed rise in anti LGBT violence.

    The "existence" of trans people is being denied by TERFs, whatever that means. Existence seems to be changing its meaning just as woman is.

    Replies: @Burnett

    If you want to get a sense of how the tide may be turning on this stuff, check out the subscriber comments on the Malcom Harris New York Magazine article. A few hours after it was posted yesterday, the comment section (usually very liberal in most issues) was pushing back hard against the weak, question-begging “analysis” in Harris’s article.

  111. @Johann Ricke
    OT, but interesting straws to add to the increasing contradictions weighing on the coalition of the fringes:

    https://twitter.com/RNCResearch/status/1545146147127414784

    Karine Jean-Pierre: Asian American parents who oppose racial quotas in college admissions are "extreme" and "ultra MAGA"

     

    https://nypost.com/2022/07/06/self-defense-is-a-right-its-time-for-nyc-to-ditch-alvin-bragg/

    Thanks to Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg, New York is a city turned upside down.

    Get caught with an illegal gun, get released without bail. Shove an elderly person to the ground, attack someone because they are Asian, a slap on the wrist. Shoplift again . . . and again . . . and again . . . nothing.

    But defend yourself and your place of business from a man who attacks you, and Bragg sends you to Rikers.

    Jose Alba, 51, was working at a bodega on Broadway near West 139th Street late last Friday night. A woman came in wanting chips and couldn’t pay; Alba wouldn’t give them to her for free.

    Furious, the woman’s boyfriend, Austin Simon, 35, went behind the counter and confronted Alba. Video of the incident clearly shows Simon is the aggressor. He yells at Alba, gets in his personal space, then shoves him into the wall.

    While Simon continues to rant, Alba gets up and tries to leave. Simon grabs him by the back of the neck.

    It’s at this point that Alba takes a knife off a nearby shelf and stabs Simon. The two continue to fight, falling off camera, until Alba comes back into frame — his arm wounded, bleeding, perhaps because he was stabbed by Simon’s girlfriend. A bloody knife in his hands.

    “He was cornered in,” Alba’s daughter, Yulissa, tells The Post. “As you can see in the video, he was cornered in, and when he saw himself getting taken outside, he thought his life was being threatened and he defended himself.”
     

    Replies: @notsaying

    RNC Research is not being honest here.

    Jean-Pierre didn’t mention Asians at all in this clip. She only mentioned Republicans and the Supreme Court in her statement on this video as parties to blame.

    Now it is true that many Asians disagree with the Democratic Party on this but she said nothing about them here. Pretty disappointing to see them just outright lying about what she said.

    • Replies: @Curle
    @notsaying

    It isn’t presented as an quote so it shouldn’t be read as one. They are restating her position in a way that exposes those parts she elides over which is: that a segment of an minority population, Asian parents, support these measures and in so doing demonstrate the coalition supporting these measures is broad based and not extreme contrary to her claim. Totally legit.

    Replies: @J.Ross

    , @Johann Ricke
    @notsaying

    IMHO, the Asian thing isn't that big a deal. The Hispanic item could be seismic. If Hispanics ever get to the point that they think the Democrat party literally wants them dead, the GOP is gonna start getting Hispanic majorities that make white majorities look anemic. And states that looked solid blue will start going wobbly.

    Replies: @Rob

  112. Why does this read like theologians trying to count the number of angels on a pinhead?

  113. In other words, the ex-men are the Seal Team Six of cancel culture

    It’s as if their sexual pleasure is heightened every time they force someone to say “she/her” or better yet ruin someone who refuses.

  114. @Woodsie
    The late great Steve Goodman. There are men who love women who love men.
    https://youtu.be/RfPouNVat84?t=3

    Replies: @Ganderson

    Still sad that Steve is gone…

  115. @YetAnotherAnon
    @HammerJack

    "Every human on earth owes you!" simply means that without women, real biological women, none of us would be here.

    Replies: @HammerJack, @Dave from Oz

    It is certainly true that every human was birthed by a woman who didn’t abort them. But people who trumpet this amazing fact tend to forget that is mostly men growing the food.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @Dave from Oz


    that is mostly men growing the food.
     
    In Africa, agriculture is considered to be women's work. Men have more important things to do like hunting for lions or sitting around with your buds and drinking sorghum beer while regaling them with stories of your lion hunting prowess.
  116. @The Anti-Gnostic
    @ScarletNumber

    Back in the 1980s I remember Paul Stanley dropped by a local radio station and had a friendly interview with the local DJs. They asked him what kind of car he drove and he kind of laughed and said he wasn't really into cars hahahaha. So the DJs started joking about how he was driving around in a sedan repaired with Bond-o hardeharhar. Any way, they stayed on the topic a bit with a strangely evasive Stanley. After a minute or so, it was apparent that Stanley was trying to be approachable and low-key with the local riffraff and didn't want to talk about the fact that he never actually gets behind the wheel; he has a chaffeur who drives him everywhere. Rock star.

    Replies: @HammerJack

    he never actually gets behind the wheel; he has a chaffeur who drives him everywhere. Rock star.

    Or just Rich Jew. Who knows, really?

    • Replies: @The Anti-Gnostic
    @HammerJack

    "Rock Star" requirements, IMO, include being so fabulous you get paid tons of money to throw at other people so they handle the lower tier stuff, like driving. Unless you're a gearhead who's into cars, then you drive your $200,000 rockstarmobile. And not like that poor schlep Tiger Woods, who nearly loses his leg driving a top-heavy soccer mom-mobile while speeding to give a golf lesson so he can buy a new XBox.

    It's a dream career for narcissistic men with lots of artistic drive who don't mind spreading a lot of green around to have a big, parasitic cru. There's no shortage of ego-driven Jewish men who can play instruments, so you'd think they'd show up in the rock star rolls in greater numbers. But probably a lot of smart Jewish men don't like the idea of tossing all that money around and they can just be academics or classical musicians and get those dopamine hits and adulation some other way.

    Replies: @Alec Leamas (hard at work), @Jack D

  117. @Tono Bungay
    @Gamecock

    What’s CM?

    Replies: @Lurker

    CM – Cultural Marxism.

  118. @Mike Tre
    @Curle

    Not the undeserved ones. (I don't have a sister)

    Replies: @Curle

    Let me rephrase, what social privileges are the trannies picking up from women that neither should have? I’m thinking that: 1) access to their own bathrooms is an privilege women deserve; 2) their own sports system; 3) their own schools if they want them; 4) their own clubs if they want them (and so should men); and 5) their own dressing rooms.

    • Replies: @Mike Tre
    @Curle

    I'm all about the sex based privileges that are defined by chivalry and similar such social contracts, such as opening a door for a lady, women and children first, etc. But it's clear that's not what I'm referring to. To your examples:

    1) - agree for both sexes
    2) - they can have their own sports, as long as they can stand on their own. You understand that Title IX artificially props up women's sports in college at the expense of men's sports, correct? And that the WNBA only exists because massive amounts of cash from the NBA serve to keep it afloat? Those are unearned privileges.
    3) Women are the ones that have enjoyed the unearned privilege of joining previously male only organizations such as the Boy Scouts, even with the availability of the Girl Scouts. It have been women that have been demanding access to previously men only schools, clubs, and organizations for the last 50 years, not the other way around.
    5) You understand that female reporters are allowed access to men's locker rooms for interviews following a pro sports contest, correct? Maybe I'm wrong but I don't believe male reporters are given the same access, at least not as cavalierly. I remember reading 20 years ago about football players stepping out of the shower room only to have some skirt sticking a microphone in their face about the pass they dropped or the tackle they missed. The players' concerns were basically dismissed.

    In the spirit of not veering off into a long and rambling post, I will just say in general there are literally dozens of examples of females welding power and influence but simultaneously avoiding accountability and or agency. Authority without accountability is the most undeserved privilege of them all, possibly.

    Should women be protected from the predatory evil of male trannies? Absolutely. But that's not the fundamental grievance broads like Milder and Rowling are filing. They are losing sole access to the benefits of those unearned, sex based privileges, as I said.

    Replies: @SFG

    , @Alec Leamas (hard at work)
    @Curle


    Let me rephrase, what social privileges are the trannies picking up from women that neither should have? I’m thinking that: 1) access to their own bathrooms is an privilege women deserve; 2) their own sports system; 3) their own schools if they want them; 4) their own clubs if they want them (and so should men); and 5) their own dressing rooms.
     
    World War T has brought some of this stuff into the fore. With regard to 1, I wasn't aware until recently that until the suffragette era women's restrooms in public venues didn't really exist, as women weren't expected (and, there being no women's restroom, it would discourage them from doing many things outside their homes or the homes of kith and kin). This was quite literally a social innovation that made some sort of quasi-independent public life available to women. This is more or less the same thing for dressing rooms, which handles 5.

    As for 3, girls' schools and women's colleges were a thing for quite some time, though the latter largely reserved for the upper classes. All but the most elite women's colleges have, over time, dwindled and many have gone coeducational by accepting male students in order to continue as institutions. So you'd have to say that post sexual revolution, the dearth of women's colleges is something that women did to themselves by revealing their own preferences in the post-secondary education market.

    Girl's and women's clubs, whether independent or as auxiliaries for men's clubs, have also been something with a long provenance, although being populated by society women they tended to become fertile grounds for social agitation and incubators/popularizers for the virus of feminism.

    That leaves women's sports, which haven't really been important to anyone other than social engineers. If you make women's sports as esteemed as the market reveals them to be, what sort of victory will pumped-up trannies achieve by taking them over? It'd just be another freak show.
  119. @notsaying
    @Johann Ricke

    RNC Research is not being honest here.

    Jean-Pierre didn't mention Asians at all in this clip. She only mentioned Republicans and the Supreme Court in her statement on this video as parties to blame.

    Now it is true that many Asians disagree with the Democratic Party on this but she said nothing about them here. Pretty disappointing to see them just outright lying about what she said.

    Replies: @Curle, @Johann Ricke

    It isn’t presented as an quote so it shouldn’t be read as one. They are restating her position in a way that exposes those parts she elides over which is: that a segment of an minority population, Asian parents, support these measures and in so doing demonstrate the coalition supporting these measures is broad based and not extreme contrary to her claim. Totally legit.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    @Curle

    This, it's a common comparison confusing only to high school age total newcomers. It's the same thing Democrats do when they say we want thirteen year old rape victims to bleed to death (although there they manage to be even less honest, but they're still not claiming it's a quote).

  120. Men in dresses. Not really welcome anywhere.

  121. @Curle
    @JimDandy

    Roth had an uncle in the music business, an agent I think. That’s what Roth brought to the table. Also, calls into question the idea that KISS discovered him. They may have known Roth’s uncle.

    Replies: @Thea, @ScarletNumber

    That reminds me of the lead singer of Ratt. Milton Berle was his uncle. They used him in a video for their one hit. Whatever his name was he must count as a Jewish Rock Star by 1980s standards.

    • Replies: @ScarletNumber
    @Thea


    That reminds me of the lead singer of Ratt. Milton Berle was his uncle.
     
    LOL Uncle Miltie was the literal uncle of Ratt's manager Marshall Berle. Marshall was not a member of the band per se.

    https://twitter.com/marshallberle
  122. @Loyalty Over IQ Worship
    My vague impression is that "well-behaved" engineer types opened the door for all this woke madness because they didn't have the guts for a social/moral fight. Too harsh? I don't know, but if you notice, while they make the system work, they always bend the knee to whoever screams at them the loudest.

    Most engineers, as well as most yuppies, pretty much submit to whoever has power. Their whole lives depend on other males seizing and defending territory for them to play in. That would be fine if they showed loyalty to those who did show real courage.

    Replies: @Unintended Consequence

    Engineers are actually the lower form of life. If peace lasts for a few decades, the engineers will eventually vote to tax away the more entrepreneurial yuppies’ profits.


  123. [MORE]

  124. @Ralph L
    @Anon

    More workers in 20 years to pay for your SS and Medicare.

    Replies: @Anon

    It’s highly unlikely that non-aborted members of the underclass will pay more in taxes than they collect in benefits.

    • Agree: Mark G.
  125. @notsaying
    @Johann Ricke

    RNC Research is not being honest here.

    Jean-Pierre didn't mention Asians at all in this clip. She only mentioned Republicans and the Supreme Court in her statement on this video as parties to blame.

    Now it is true that many Asians disagree with the Democratic Party on this but she said nothing about them here. Pretty disappointing to see them just outright lying about what she said.

    Replies: @Curle, @Johann Ricke

    IMHO, the Asian thing isn’t that big a deal. The Hispanic item could be seismic. If Hispanics ever get to the point that they think the Democrat party literally wants them dead, the GOP is gonna start getting Hispanic majorities that make white majorities look anemic. And states that looked solid blue will start going wobbly.

    • Replies: @Rob
    @Johann Ricke

    What Hispanic item is that? Sad to say, I have not been keeping up with comments here. Barely keeping up with posts.

    Replies: @Johann Ricke

  126. @Thoughts
    Bette Midler is just trying to get Mid America back on her side in time for Hocus Pocus

    Bette Midler has spent the last few Decades being the ugliest anti-American she can be

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Gordo

    Bette Midler is just trying to get Mid America back on her side in time for Hocus Pocus

    Hocus Pocus? Is that like Helter Skelter? should we be worried?

    • LOL: Joe Joe
  127. @Curle
    @notsaying

    It isn’t presented as an quote so it shouldn’t be read as one. They are restating her position in a way that exposes those parts she elides over which is: that a segment of an minority population, Asian parents, support these measures and in so doing demonstrate the coalition supporting these measures is broad based and not extreme contrary to her claim. Totally legit.

    Replies: @J.Ross

    This, it’s a common comparison confusing only to high school age total newcomers. It’s the same thing Democrats do when they say we want thirteen year old rape victims to bleed to death (although there they manage to be even less honest, but they’re still not claiming it’s a quote).

  128. Macy Gray is a 1990s black singer

    I couldn’t believe it has been that long, but indeed “I Try” was released in September 1999. It was her only hit song.

    • Replies: @MEH 0910
    @ScarletNumber

    Macy Gray - I Try (Official Video)
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WEQ0l_m3Xm0

  129. @Thea
    @Curle

    That reminds me of the lead singer of Ratt. Milton Berle was his uncle. They used him in a video for their one hit. Whatever his name was he must count as a Jewish Rock Star by 1980s standards.

    Replies: @ScarletNumber

    That reminds me of the lead singer of Ratt. Milton Berle was his uncle.

    LOL Uncle Miltie was the literal uncle of Ratt’s manager Marshall Berle. Marshall was not a member of the band per se.

  130. @Reg Cæsar
    @Thoughts


    Bette Midler is just trying to get Mid America back on her side in time for Hocus Pocus

    Bette Midler has spent the last few Decades being the ugliest anti-American she can be
     
    Like Barack Obama, she wasn't born in America, but in the illegally occupied Kingdom of Hawaii.

    Replies: @ScarletNumber

    If Obama was two years older, the 2008 presidential race would have been between two candidates who were not born in the united states.

  131. Rob says:

    The only real reason anyone started using gender for people is that sex refers to both the two varieties of humans based on gametes and a particular activity those two varieties can participate in with each other. If researchers could have used sex and fuck, no one would have had any use for applying gender to people.

    Think about it. Nouns are arbitrarily assigned gender. People are not. You know how you might have a hard time describing how to tell cats from dogs in photos without size cues, but you have no trouble doing it? Well, AI classifiers can differentiate cat from dog photos. Pretty sure an AI could assign people to one sex or the other from nude photos with or without heads. Probably AI that could divide humans up without any training data, just “here’s a bunch of photos” divide them up.”

    Tl:dr. Do you know how middle school boys will fill in “sex:” with “yes, please”? Well, that joke is why people can talk about their gender without sounding riduckulous.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Rob


    Think about it. Nouns are arbitrarily assigned gender.
     
    Not in English, they aren't. Not in the last seven or eight centuries.

    I just read in one of those faddish "happy Dane" books that their language is egalitarian because the masculine and feminine genders converged. Well, bloody hell, English beat them by centuries!

    Neuter remains a separate gender. This is true of Swedish, Norwegian, and Dutch as well. The Romance tongues in contrast merged masculine and neuter, leaving the feminine separate.
  132. @Rob
    The only real reason anyone started using gender for people is that sex refers to both the two varieties of humans based on gametes and a particular activity those two varieties can participate in with each other. If researchers could have used sex and fuck, no one would have had any use for applying gender to people.

    Think about it. Nouns are arbitrarily assigned gender. People are not. You know how you might have a hard time describing how to tell cats from dogs in photos without size cues, but you have no trouble doing it? Well, AI classifiers can differentiate cat from dog photos. Pretty sure an AI could assign people to one sex or the other from nude photos with or without heads. Probably AI that could divide humans up without any training data, just “here’s a bunch of photos” divide them up.”

    Tl:dr. Do you know how middle school boys will fill in “sex:” with “yes, please”? Well, that joke is why people can talk about their gender without sounding riduckulous.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    Think about it. Nouns are arbitrarily assigned gender.

    Not in English, they aren’t. Not in the last seven or eight centuries.

    I just read in one of those faddish “happy Dane” books that their language is egalitarian because the masculine and feminine genders converged. Well, bloody hell, English beat them by centuries!

    Neuter remains a separate gender. This is true of Swedish, Norwegian, and Dutch as well. The Romance tongues in contrast merged masculine and neuter, leaving the feminine separate.

  133. @Curle
    @JimDandy

    Roth had an uncle in the music business, an agent I think. That’s what Roth brought to the table. Also, calls into question the idea that KISS discovered him. They may have known Roth’s uncle.

    Replies: @Thea, @ScarletNumber

    JimDandy is correct. Manny Roth founded Cafe Wha? in Greenwich Village in 1959 and owned and operated it for nine years. He left show business after that, though. Van Halen chose DLR as their vocalist because it was easier than renting the sound system from him every night.

    • Replies: @Curle
    @ScarletNumber

    Roth, David Lee, once spoke of his uncle’s influence on the band’s music including helping develop the bands songwriting.

    Here’s some of his uncle’s contacts:

    “Cafe Wha? provided a launching place for amateur music and comedy acts including Bob Dylan, Jimi Hendrix, Bruce Springsteen, The Velvet Underground, Cat Mother & the All Night Newsboys, Kool & the Gang, Peter, Paul and Mary, Woody Allen, Lenny Bruce, Joan Rivers, Bill Cosby, and Richard Pryor.[2]”

    I doubt the Van Halen brothers want to prop up Roth’s role given their tensions with him and virtually no successful acts attribute success to inside connections. And I’m sure they needed sound equipment.

  134. @Curle
    @Mike Tre

    Let me rephrase, what social privileges are the trannies picking up from women that neither should have? I’m thinking that: 1) access to their own bathrooms is an privilege women deserve; 2) their own sports system; 3) their own schools if they want them; 4) their own clubs if they want them (and so should men); and 5) their own dressing rooms.

    Replies: @Mike Tre, @Alec Leamas (hard at work)

    I’m all about the sex based privileges that are defined by chivalry and similar such social contracts, such as opening a door for a lady, women and children first, etc. But it’s clear that’s not what I’m referring to. To your examples:

    1) – agree for both sexes
    2) – they can have their own sports, as long as they can stand on their own. You understand that Title IX artificially props up women’s sports in college at the expense of men’s sports, correct? And that the WNBA only exists because massive amounts of cash from the NBA serve to keep it afloat? Those are unearned privileges.
    3) Women are the ones that have enjoyed the unearned privilege of joining previously male only organizations such as the Boy Scouts, even with the availability of the Girl Scouts. It have been women that have been demanding access to previously men only schools, clubs, and organizations for the last 50 years, not the other way around.
    5) You understand that female reporters are allowed access to men’s locker rooms for interviews following a pro sports contest, correct? Maybe I’m wrong but I don’t believe male reporters are given the same access, at least not as cavalierly. I remember reading 20 years ago about football players stepping out of the shower room only to have some skirt sticking a microphone in their face about the pass they dropped or the tackle they missed. The players’ concerns were basically dismissed.

    In the spirit of not veering off into a long and rambling post, I will just say in general there are literally dozens of examples of females welding power and influence but simultaneously avoiding accountability and or agency. Authority without accountability is the most undeserved privilege of them all, possibly.

    Should women be protected from the predatory evil of male trannies? Absolutely. But that’s not the fundamental grievance broads like Milder and Rowling are filing. They are losing sole access to the benefits of those unearned, sex based privileges, as I said.

    • Replies: @SFG
    @Mike Tre

    Nah. They forfeited the right to chivalry with feminism and divorce laws. I see a guy harassing a woman, I ain’t doing squat.

    Frankly, I believe in two sexes and the like, but if they get sick of creepy guys in dresses in their dressing rooms they can drop all the double standards that favor them. We owe them nothing now, and they deserve nothing.

    Replies: @Mike Tre, @Reg Cæsar

  135. @Johann Ricke
    @notsaying

    IMHO, the Asian thing isn't that big a deal. The Hispanic item could be seismic. If Hispanics ever get to the point that they think the Democrat party literally wants them dead, the GOP is gonna start getting Hispanic majorities that make white majorities look anemic. And states that looked solid blue will start going wobbly.

    Replies: @Rob

    What Hispanic item is that? Sad to say, I have not been keeping up with comments here. Barely keeping up with posts.

    • Replies: @Johann Ricke
    @Rob


    What Hispanic item is that? Sad to say, I have not been keeping up with comments here. Barely keeping up with posts.
     
    The one where Alvin Bragg, Manhattan DA, is charging a Hispanic bodega clerk for murder because he knifed a black thug who was beating him up.
  136. SFG says:
    @Mike Tre
    @Curle

    I'm all about the sex based privileges that are defined by chivalry and similar such social contracts, such as opening a door for a lady, women and children first, etc. But it's clear that's not what I'm referring to. To your examples:

    1) - agree for both sexes
    2) - they can have their own sports, as long as they can stand on their own. You understand that Title IX artificially props up women's sports in college at the expense of men's sports, correct? And that the WNBA only exists because massive amounts of cash from the NBA serve to keep it afloat? Those are unearned privileges.
    3) Women are the ones that have enjoyed the unearned privilege of joining previously male only organizations such as the Boy Scouts, even with the availability of the Girl Scouts. It have been women that have been demanding access to previously men only schools, clubs, and organizations for the last 50 years, not the other way around.
    5) You understand that female reporters are allowed access to men's locker rooms for interviews following a pro sports contest, correct? Maybe I'm wrong but I don't believe male reporters are given the same access, at least not as cavalierly. I remember reading 20 years ago about football players stepping out of the shower room only to have some skirt sticking a microphone in their face about the pass they dropped or the tackle they missed. The players' concerns were basically dismissed.

    In the spirit of not veering off into a long and rambling post, I will just say in general there are literally dozens of examples of females welding power and influence but simultaneously avoiding accountability and or agency. Authority without accountability is the most undeserved privilege of them all, possibly.

    Should women be protected from the predatory evil of male trannies? Absolutely. But that's not the fundamental grievance broads like Milder and Rowling are filing. They are losing sole access to the benefits of those unearned, sex based privileges, as I said.

    Replies: @SFG

    Nah. They forfeited the right to chivalry with feminism and divorce laws. I see a guy harassing a woman, I ain’t doing squat.

    Frankly, I believe in two sexes and the like, but if they get sick of creepy guys in dresses in their dressing rooms they can drop all the double standards that favor them. We owe them nothing now, and they deserve nothing.

    • Agree: Kylie
    • Replies: @Mike Tre
    @SFG

    In spirit I agree with chivalry, but in practice I agree with you.

    This is what they wanted, so this is what they get.

    , @Reg Cæsar
    @SFG


    Frankly, I believe in two sexes and the like, but if they get sick of creepy guys in dresses in their dressing rooms they can drop all the double standards that favor them. We owe them nothing now, and they deserve nothing.
     
    It was a small minority of vocal women who pushed this stuff. Problem was, they neutralized the male response as "self-serving" (the cauldron calling the kettle black), leaving any resistance up to the rest of the distaff population.

    Except for Stop ERA and the prolife movement, this never came.

    To paraphrase protofeminist John Stuart Mill, the only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good women to do nothing.
  137. @Alec Leamas (working from home)
    This is a sophomore essay for Gender Studies 101 at a non-selective State University at best, and yet it appears in the Washington Post. I found even the bit excerpted by Steve to be meandering and pointless, mostly because it takes pains to tick the box of consulting experts (advocates) to say what the author has been clearly saying, one supposes to shift the piece from obvious opinion to reporting according to some technical style guide that's been tortured to the point of meaninglessness. Yes, Mizz Branigin, we knew your conclusions and purposes within the first three sentences. We didn't really need the rest.

    The ruling class, in addition to being malicious, is populated by absolute mediocrities.

    Replies: @Merema

    I don’t understand this blaming many things on autism. Autism is a heartbreaking and devastating developmental disorder. The vast majority those who suffer from it (99%) wouldn’t begin to understand gender politics. A few that have a mild version might, but what evidence is there that transwomen are “austistic ex-men”.

    Trannies probably have mental health issues, but not autism.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @Merema

    Autistic is used loosely nowadays, the way that calling someone "a retard" used to be before it was stigmatized. You need to be able to call your enemies negative names but since modern society puts so many names off limits you have to keep coming up with new ones.

    Even beyond the sense of pure name calling, the modern diagnostic category of "autism spectrum disorder" is very broad, ranging from the heartbreaking and devastating type you describe, where sometimes children who at first appear to be developing normally suddenly withdraw from the world and lose their power of speech, to rather mild difficulties with social interaction.

    Steve's original diagnosis of autogynephilia seems to be more appropriate, at least in some cases of men who have a track record of being quite successful athletically and professionally and having a generally assholish and bullying personality but then one day decide that they are the wrong sex. It's hard to think of those men as being "autistic" in any sense.

    Replies: @Alec Leamas (hard at work), @Reg Cæsar, @Reg Cæsar

    , @Alec Leamas (hard at work)
    @Merema


    I don’t understand this blaming many things on autism. Autism is a heartbreaking and devastating developmental disorder. The vast majority those who suffer from it (99%) wouldn’t begin to understand gender politics. A few that have a mild version might, but what evidence is there that transwomen are “austistic ex-men”.

    Trannies probably have mental health issues, but not autism.

     

    I don't know if you meant to respond to someone else because I didn't discuss autism in the post to which you responded, but since you commented on it people on the autism spectrum are vastly disproportionately likely to identify as Alphabet people.

    Some of this is likely because their inability to interpret connotations and shades of meaning (especially polite lies which the rest of us understand to be everyday social lubricants rather than declarations of fact) makes them guileless - so an autistic girl may genuinely believe that modern medical science can turn her into a real boy because all of a sudden everyone with credentials says so. Likewise, they're probably unable to interpret declared soft support for Alphabet causes by people who really just want to be left alone for what it is - people saying what they need to say in order to remain employable but who are disgusted by lots of gay stuff and would absolutely consider it a crisis if one of their own kids declared to be an Alphabet person.

    In sum, they're only able to read society's text, not its subtext, so the Alphabet propaganda has hit them particularly hard.

    Replies: @Merema

  138. @Curle
    @Mike Tre

    “undeserved social privileges that had been set aside for females are being lost to the tranny movement.”

    Your mom and sister don’t deserve social privileges?

    Replies: @Mike Tre, @Dr. DoomNGloom

    “undeserved social privileges that had been set aside for females are being lost to the tranny movement.”

    Your mom and sister don’t deserve social privileges?

    Let’s put it this way, sandbagging is a dick move. It might not be illegal, but it’s unethical. In the case of woman’s sports, it’s unsportsmanlike. (one way to sandbag is to enter competition at a competitive level for which you are overqualified).
    Ex men who want to present as women to enter any competition that had been sex selected is sandbagging.
    1) the competition is segregated for competitive reasons resulting from sexual dimorphism for which the male body provides prohibitive advantage that exclude females.
    2) the ex men acknowledge they “were born in the wrong body”.
    3) they knowingly take that wrong body into the female competition.
    Hence, they are

    sandbaggers.

    and all sandbaggers are dicks.

    They claim to seek acceptance. Yet, act like dicks, by engaging in socially a reprehensible sandbagging behavior. A desire for acceptance lacks face plausibility. They are just being dicks.

    A plausible bid for acceptance would include joining a knitting circle, book of the month, or a bridge club.

    • Agree: Curle
  139. @Chrisnonymous

    Here's why
     
    When did the Washington Post start publiahing clickbait-style headlines?

    Democracy dies in dumbness?

    Replies: @Dr. DoomNGloom

    When did the Washington Post start publiahing clickbait-style headlines?

    Democracy dies in dumbness?

    Democracy dies in dimness?

  140. @Jon
    Although it was highly amusing when a dumb joke I laughed at as a kid (Q: How do you stop a black guy from robbing you? A: Throw him a basketball) became official policy under Clinton, I find the actualizing of the "I'm a man trapped in a lesbian's body" punchline much less so.
    What other bad jokes are we going to have to live through?

    Replies: @stillCARealist

    Rush Limbaugh used to joke that he was a male lesbian. It might have been true, considering how many wives he went through.

    My relative’s daughter acted on this. She went from female lesbian to straight male (at least on paper and in appearance). The mental illness is the only constant in her life.

  141. @ScarletNumber

    Macy Gray is a 1990s black singer
     
    I couldn't believe it has been that long, but indeed "I Try" was released in September 1999. It was her only hit song.

    Replies: @MEH 0910

    Macy Gray – I Try (Official Video)

  142. @SFG
    @Mike Tre

    Nah. They forfeited the right to chivalry with feminism and divorce laws. I see a guy harassing a woman, I ain’t doing squat.

    Frankly, I believe in two sexes and the like, but if they get sick of creepy guys in dresses in their dressing rooms they can drop all the double standards that favor them. We owe them nothing now, and they deserve nothing.

    Replies: @Mike Tre, @Reg Cæsar

    In spirit I agree with chivalry, but in practice I agree with you.

    This is what they wanted, so this is what they get.

  143. @ScarletNumber
    @Curle

    JimDandy is correct. Manny Roth founded Cafe Wha? in Greenwich Village in 1959 and owned and operated it for nine years. He left show business after that, though. Van Halen chose DLR as their vocalist because it was easier than renting the sound system from him every night.

    Replies: @Curle

    Roth, David Lee, once spoke of his uncle’s influence on the band’s music including helping develop the bands songwriting.

    Here’s some of his uncle’s contacts:

    “Cafe Wha? provided a launching place for amateur music and comedy acts including Bob Dylan, Jimi Hendrix, Bruce Springsteen, The Velvet Underground, Cat Mother & the All Night Newsboys, Kool & the Gang, Peter, Paul and Mary, Woody Allen, Lenny Bruce, Joan Rivers, Bill Cosby, and Richard Pryor.[2]”

    I doubt the Van Halen brothers want to prop up Roth’s role given their tensions with him and virtually no successful acts attribute success to inside connections. And I’m sure they needed sound equipment.

  144. @Dave from Oz
    @YetAnotherAnon

    It is certainly true that every human was birthed by a woman who didn't abort them. But people who trumpet this amazing fact tend to forget that is mostly men growing the food.

    Replies: @Jack D

    that is mostly men growing the food.

    In Africa, agriculture is considered to be women’s work. Men have more important things to do like hunting for lions or sitting around with your buds and drinking sorghum beer while regaling them with stories of your lion hunting prowess.

  145. If there’s one thing transgenders are inordinately good at, it’s shrieking and clutching their pearls.

  146. @Merema
    @Alec Leamas (working from home)

    I don't understand this blaming many things on autism. Autism is a heartbreaking and devastating developmental disorder. The vast majority those who suffer from it (99%) wouldn't begin to understand gender politics. A few that have a mild version might, but what evidence is there that transwomen are "austistic ex-men".

    Trannies probably have mental health issues, but not autism.

    Replies: @Jack D, @Alec Leamas (hard at work)

    Autistic is used loosely nowadays, the way that calling someone “a retard” used to be before it was stigmatized. You need to be able to call your enemies negative names but since modern society puts so many names off limits you have to keep coming up with new ones.

    Even beyond the sense of pure name calling, the modern diagnostic category of “autism spectrum disorder” is very broad, ranging from the heartbreaking and devastating type you describe, where sometimes children who at first appear to be developing normally suddenly withdraw from the world and lose their power of speech, to rather mild difficulties with social interaction.

    Steve’s original diagnosis of autogynephilia seems to be more appropriate, at least in some cases of men who have a track record of being quite successful athletically and professionally and having a generally assholish and bullying personality but then one day decide that they are the wrong sex. It’s hard to think of those men as being “autistic” in any sense.

    • Replies: @Alec Leamas (hard at work)
    @Jack D


    Autistic is used loosely nowadays, the way that calling someone “a retard” used to be before it was stigmatized. You need to be able to call your enemies negative names but since modern society puts so many names off limits you have to keep coming up with new ones.
     
    If autism is extreme left brain/masculine brain thinking that obsesses over objects and doesn't handle emotion or people well, engineering oneself to be female from male by re-routing some tubes, moving flesh and fat around, and applying hormones is a pretty extreme male-brained thing to do. In such a case they're fabricating the object of their obsessions, just using themselves as the raw material. Think about modding a bike or a car or a dozen other things that boys and men do, but on a more audacious scale because of an utter inability to divorce the desired object from the self that makes it. You have to be really far gone down a rabbit hole to not be able to understand that being a woman is so much more subjective than the experience of a male inhabiting even the most convincing simulacrum of a woman's body.

    Replies: @Dieter Kief, @Curle

    , @Reg Cæsar
    @Jack D


    You need to be able to call your enemies negative names but since modern society puts so many names off limits you have to keep coming up with new ones.
     
    And new good names, too-- colored, Negro, black, Afro-American, African-American, ADOS, BIPOC... the old ones wear out their welcome when reality refuses to change.

    Steve’s original diagnosis of autogynephilia...
     
    We need a poetic form for seven-syllable words, like the double dactyl for six-syllables. There is of course haiku:


    Bob is now "Zoey".
    Autogynephilia...
    Did she say "chopper"?


    And the Welsh aCywydd*:

    Autogynephilia,
    Albino Tanzania...
    Genitals are put at risk
    Like Ebony's obelisk.


    (No, it doesn't scan. That's the whole point.)

    *The old bards were way ahead of Apple in orthography!
    , @Reg Cæsar
    @Jack D

    Is there an autogynOphelia Complex? What would one look like?

    Replies: @Stan Adams

  147. @SFG
    @Mike Tre

    Nah. They forfeited the right to chivalry with feminism and divorce laws. I see a guy harassing a woman, I ain’t doing squat.

    Frankly, I believe in two sexes and the like, but if they get sick of creepy guys in dresses in their dressing rooms they can drop all the double standards that favor them. We owe them nothing now, and they deserve nothing.

    Replies: @Mike Tre, @Reg Cæsar

    Frankly, I believe in two sexes and the like, but if they get sick of creepy guys in dresses in their dressing rooms they can drop all the double standards that favor them. We owe them nothing now, and they deserve nothing.

    It was a small minority of vocal women who pushed this stuff. Problem was, they neutralized the male response as “self-serving” (the cauldron calling the kettle black), leaving any resistance up to the rest of the distaff population.

    Except for Stop ERA and the prolife movement, this never came.

    To paraphrase protofeminist John Stuart Mill, the only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good women to do nothing.

  148. @Merema
    @Alec Leamas (working from home)

    I don't understand this blaming many things on autism. Autism is a heartbreaking and devastating developmental disorder. The vast majority those who suffer from it (99%) wouldn't begin to understand gender politics. A few that have a mild version might, but what evidence is there that transwomen are "austistic ex-men".

    Trannies probably have mental health issues, but not autism.

    Replies: @Jack D, @Alec Leamas (hard at work)

    I don’t understand this blaming many things on autism. Autism is a heartbreaking and devastating developmental disorder. The vast majority those who suffer from it (99%) wouldn’t begin to understand gender politics. A few that have a mild version might, but what evidence is there that transwomen are “austistic ex-men”.

    Trannies probably have mental health issues, but not autism.

    I don’t know if you meant to respond to someone else because I didn’t discuss autism in the post to which you responded, but since you commented on it people on the autism spectrum are vastly disproportionately likely to identify as Alphabet people.

    Some of this is likely because their inability to interpret connotations and shades of meaning (especially polite lies which the rest of us understand to be everyday social lubricants rather than declarations of fact) makes them guileless – so an autistic girl may genuinely believe that modern medical science can turn her into a real boy because all of a sudden everyone with credentials says so. Likewise, they’re probably unable to interpret declared soft support for Alphabet causes by people who really just want to be left alone for what it is – people saying what they need to say in order to remain employable but who are disgusted by lots of gay stuff and would absolutely consider it a crisis if one of their own kids declared to be an Alphabet person.

    In sum, they’re only able to read society’s text, not its subtext, so the Alphabet propaganda has hit them particularly hard.

    • Replies: @Merema
    @Alec Leamas (hard at work)

    I meant to respond to someone else-my bad.

    An autistic girl would be highly social withdrawn and award and would not begin to comprehend Alphabet ideology. If anything it is think the trans are people who are actually very sociable people with strong self awareness.

    Please provide source.

  149. @HammerJack
    @The Anti-Gnostic


    he never actually gets behind the wheel; he has a chaffeur who drives him everywhere. Rock star.
     
    Or just Rich Jew. Who knows, really?

    Replies: @The Anti-Gnostic

    “Rock Star” requirements, IMO, include being so fabulous you get paid tons of money to throw at other people so they handle the lower tier stuff, like driving. Unless you’re a gearhead who’s into cars, then you drive your \$200,000 rockstarmobile. And not like that poor schlep Tiger Woods, who nearly loses his leg driving a top-heavy soccer mom-mobile while speeding to give a golf lesson so he can buy a new XBox.

    It’s a dream career for narcissistic men with lots of artistic drive who don’t mind spreading a lot of green around to have a big, parasitic cru. There’s no shortage of ego-driven Jewish men who can play instruments, so you’d think they’d show up in the rock star rolls in greater numbers. But probably a lot of smart Jewish men don’t like the idea of tossing all that money around and they can just be academics or classical musicians and get those dopamine hits and adulation some other way.

    • Replies: @Alec Leamas (hard at work)
    @The Anti-Gnostic


    It’s a dream career for narcissistic men with lots of artistic drive who don’t mind spreading a lot of green around to have a big, parasitic cru. There’s no shortage of ego-driven Jewish men who can play instruments, so you’d think they’d show up in the rock star rolls in greater numbers. But probably a lot of smart Jewish men don’t like the idea of tossing all that money around and they can just be academics or classical musicians and get those dopamine hits and adulation some other way.
     
    This was in another thread but in my opinion I think Steve is essentially correct in that pursuit of popular music is a secondary route for men to access status where the archetypal and primary route in American life is success in athletics, and almost exclusively the popular sports like football. (Are there groupies for shot putters and cross country champions? I don't know but I doubt it).

    As our host observed, the typical whip-thin, borderline androgynous body type and appearance of the rock star and apparent lack of physical discipline is itself evidence of this - for the most part these guys weren't going to be running backs or linebackers or shooting guards etc., so they spent their time pranging on guitars and drums in a garage (back in a golden era between the post-war era and the helicopter tiger parent era when teens had free time to pursue interests unsupervised).

    I think Jewish American culture from that time was probably more inclined towards steering young boys and men towards the business of these trades, where it would be more acceptable to be the owner/manager/agent/promoter/etc. than the actual athletic or musical talents.
    , @Jack D
    @The Anti-Gnostic


    And not like that poor schlep Tiger Woods, who nearly loses his leg driving a top-heavy soccer mom-mobile
     
    There was absolutely nothing wrong with the Genesis GV80 that Woods was driving. It is rated as Top Safety Pick+ (the highest possible rating) by the insurance institute testing organization. In fact, the car, with its high strength steel and airbags galore, saved Woods's life. If he had been driving a nice little low center of gravity car like James Dean's Porsche Spyder he would have been dead, dead, dead instead of only having his leg shattered. The accident was purely due to Woods's extreme recklessness. If you drive full throttle into a tree at 75mph it doesn't make any difference where the center of gravity is. In an old school '57 Chevy, at 75 mph into a tree, the steering column ends up in the back seat and you are crushed like a bug.

    https://media.npr.org/assets/img/2021/04/07/ap21096849306937-69bac5820ac03d6fcb46e1bbe2cb715ee2164324-s900-c85.webp


    "Estimated speeds at the first area of impact were 84 to 87 mph, and the final estimated speed when the vehicle struck the tree was 75 mph," Sheriff Alex Villanueva told reporters as he announced the department's findings about the cause of the crash.

    The posted speed on the road was 45 mph, Capt. James Powers said later.

    He suggested a factor that may have contributed to the crash: "There was no evidence of braking throughout this collision. It is speculated and believed that Tiger Woods inadvertently hit the accelerator instead of the brake pedal." The accelerator was pushed down just below the maximum, Powers said.

    The car eventually hit a tree, which "caused the vehicle to go airborne and do a somewhat pirouette, landing on its side," Powers added.
     

    Replies: @The Anti-Gnostic

  150. @Jack D
    @Merema

    Autistic is used loosely nowadays, the way that calling someone "a retard" used to be before it was stigmatized. You need to be able to call your enemies negative names but since modern society puts so many names off limits you have to keep coming up with new ones.

    Even beyond the sense of pure name calling, the modern diagnostic category of "autism spectrum disorder" is very broad, ranging from the heartbreaking and devastating type you describe, where sometimes children who at first appear to be developing normally suddenly withdraw from the world and lose their power of speech, to rather mild difficulties with social interaction.

    Steve's original diagnosis of autogynephilia seems to be more appropriate, at least in some cases of men who have a track record of being quite successful athletically and professionally and having a generally assholish and bullying personality but then one day decide that they are the wrong sex. It's hard to think of those men as being "autistic" in any sense.

    Replies: @Alec Leamas (hard at work), @Reg Cæsar, @Reg Cæsar

    Autistic is used loosely nowadays, the way that calling someone “a retard” used to be before it was stigmatized. You need to be able to call your enemies negative names but since modern society puts so many names off limits you have to keep coming up with new ones.

    If autism is extreme left brain/masculine brain thinking that obsesses over objects and doesn’t handle emotion or people well, engineering oneself to be female from male by re-routing some tubes, moving flesh and fat around, and applying hormones is a pretty extreme male-brained thing to do. In such a case they’re fabricating the object of their obsessions, just using themselves as the raw material. Think about modding a bike or a car or a dozen other things that boys and men do, but on a more audacious scale because of an utter inability to divorce the desired object from the self that makes it. You have to be really far gone down a rabbit hole to not be able to understand that being a woman is so much more subjective than the experience of a male inhabiting even the most convincing simulacrum of a woman’s body.

    • Agree: Dieter Kief
    • Replies: @Dieter Kief
    @Alec Leamas (hard at work)


    You have to be really far gone down a rabbit hole to not be able to understand that being a woman is so much more subjective than the experience of a male inhabiting even the most convincing simulacrum of a woman’s body.
     
    Narcissism is the inability to develop a seperated self (seen through this lens, narcissism is not least a form of symbiosis). So - this is the name of the rabbit hole your're speaking about in psychoanalytical terms.

    (I liked your post a lot. Great stuff - the modeling part not least. I think your take might be (a bit) closer to the psychoanalytical understanding of trans-men as Steve's autogynephilia theorem even though both models are quite close together.)

    Replies: @Alec Leamas (hard at work)

    , @Curle
    @Alec Leamas (hard at work)

    If it is an male brain trait that manifests itself into mimicking that which they desire, females, what are female to male trannies trying to accomplish? Make their bodies fit their brains?

  151. @Jack D
    @Merema

    Autistic is used loosely nowadays, the way that calling someone "a retard" used to be before it was stigmatized. You need to be able to call your enemies negative names but since modern society puts so many names off limits you have to keep coming up with new ones.

    Even beyond the sense of pure name calling, the modern diagnostic category of "autism spectrum disorder" is very broad, ranging from the heartbreaking and devastating type you describe, where sometimes children who at first appear to be developing normally suddenly withdraw from the world and lose their power of speech, to rather mild difficulties with social interaction.

    Steve's original diagnosis of autogynephilia seems to be more appropriate, at least in some cases of men who have a track record of being quite successful athletically and professionally and having a generally assholish and bullying personality but then one day decide that they are the wrong sex. It's hard to think of those men as being "autistic" in any sense.

    Replies: @Alec Leamas (hard at work), @Reg Cæsar, @Reg Cæsar

    You need to be able to call your enemies negative names but since modern society puts so many names off limits you have to keep coming up with new ones.

    And new good names, too– colored, Negro, black, Afro-American, African-American, ADOS, BIPOC… the old ones wear out their welcome when reality refuses to change.

    Steve’s original diagnosis of autogynephilia

    We need a poetic form for seven-syllable words, like the double dactyl for six-syllables. There is of course haiku:

    Bob is now “Zoey”.
    Autogynephilia…
    Did she say “chopper”?

    And the Welsh aCywydd*:

    Autogynephilia,
    Albino Tanzania…
    Genitals are put at risk
    Like Ebony’s obelisk.

    (No, it doesn’t scan. That’s the whole point.)

    *The old bards were way ahead of Apple in orthography!

  152. @The Anti-Gnostic
    @HammerJack

    "Rock Star" requirements, IMO, include being so fabulous you get paid tons of money to throw at other people so they handle the lower tier stuff, like driving. Unless you're a gearhead who's into cars, then you drive your $200,000 rockstarmobile. And not like that poor schlep Tiger Woods, who nearly loses his leg driving a top-heavy soccer mom-mobile while speeding to give a golf lesson so he can buy a new XBox.

    It's a dream career for narcissistic men with lots of artistic drive who don't mind spreading a lot of green around to have a big, parasitic cru. There's no shortage of ego-driven Jewish men who can play instruments, so you'd think they'd show up in the rock star rolls in greater numbers. But probably a lot of smart Jewish men don't like the idea of tossing all that money around and they can just be academics or classical musicians and get those dopamine hits and adulation some other way.

    Replies: @Alec Leamas (hard at work), @Jack D

    It’s a dream career for narcissistic men with lots of artistic drive who don’t mind spreading a lot of green around to have a big, parasitic cru. There’s no shortage of ego-driven Jewish men who can play instruments, so you’d think they’d show up in the rock star rolls in greater numbers. But probably a lot of smart Jewish men don’t like the idea of tossing all that money around and they can just be academics or classical musicians and get those dopamine hits and adulation some other way.

    This was in another thread but in my opinion I think Steve is essentially correct in that pursuit of popular music is a secondary route for men to access status where the archetypal and primary route in American life is success in athletics, and almost exclusively the popular sports like football. (Are there groupies for shot putters and cross country champions? I don’t know but I doubt it).

    As our host observed, the typical whip-thin, borderline androgynous body type and appearance of the rock star and apparent lack of physical discipline is itself evidence of this – for the most part these guys weren’t going to be running backs or linebackers or shooting guards etc., so they spent their time pranging on guitars and drums in a garage (back in a golden era between the post-war era and the helicopter tiger parent era when teens had free time to pursue interests unsupervised).

    I think Jewish American culture from that time was probably more inclined towards steering young boys and men towards the business of these trades, where it would be more acceptable to be the owner/manager/agent/promoter/etc. than the actual athletic or musical talents.

  153. @Jack D
    @Merema

    Autistic is used loosely nowadays, the way that calling someone "a retard" used to be before it was stigmatized. You need to be able to call your enemies negative names but since modern society puts so many names off limits you have to keep coming up with new ones.

    Even beyond the sense of pure name calling, the modern diagnostic category of "autism spectrum disorder" is very broad, ranging from the heartbreaking and devastating type you describe, where sometimes children who at first appear to be developing normally suddenly withdraw from the world and lose their power of speech, to rather mild difficulties with social interaction.

    Steve's original diagnosis of autogynephilia seems to be more appropriate, at least in some cases of men who have a track record of being quite successful athletically and professionally and having a generally assholish and bullying personality but then one day decide that they are the wrong sex. It's hard to think of those men as being "autistic" in any sense.

    Replies: @Alec Leamas (hard at work), @Reg Cæsar, @Reg Cæsar

    Is there an autogynOphelia Complex? What would one look like?

    • Replies: @Stan Adams
    @Reg Cæsar

    Lia is Ophelia:
    https://i.ibb.co/mzhNGn2/C95-C7-BE0-A2-C6-4-B3-C-9-BC8-4-E99-BFE057-D3.jpg

  154. @The Anti-Gnostic
    @HammerJack

    "Rock Star" requirements, IMO, include being so fabulous you get paid tons of money to throw at other people so they handle the lower tier stuff, like driving. Unless you're a gearhead who's into cars, then you drive your $200,000 rockstarmobile. And not like that poor schlep Tiger Woods, who nearly loses his leg driving a top-heavy soccer mom-mobile while speeding to give a golf lesson so he can buy a new XBox.

    It's a dream career for narcissistic men with lots of artistic drive who don't mind spreading a lot of green around to have a big, parasitic cru. There's no shortage of ego-driven Jewish men who can play instruments, so you'd think they'd show up in the rock star rolls in greater numbers. But probably a lot of smart Jewish men don't like the idea of tossing all that money around and they can just be academics or classical musicians and get those dopamine hits and adulation some other way.

    Replies: @Alec Leamas (hard at work), @Jack D

    And not like that poor schlep Tiger Woods, who nearly loses his leg driving a top-heavy soccer mom-mobile

    There was absolutely nothing wrong with the Genesis GV80 that Woods was driving. It is rated as Top Safety Pick+ (the highest possible rating) by the insurance institute testing organization. In fact, the car, with its high strength steel and airbags galore, saved Woods’s life. If he had been driving a nice little low center of gravity car like James Dean’s Porsche Spyder he would have been dead, dead, dead instead of only having his leg shattered. The accident was purely due to Woods’s extreme recklessness. If you drive full throttle into a tree at 75mph it doesn’t make any difference where the center of gravity is. In an old school ’57 Chevy, at 75 mph into a tree, the steering column ends up in the back seat and you are crushed like a bug.

    “Estimated speeds at the first area of impact were 84 to 87 mph, and the final estimated speed when the vehicle struck the tree was 75 mph,” Sheriff Alex Villanueva told reporters as he announced the department’s findings about the cause of the crash.

    The posted speed on the road was 45 mph, Capt. James Powers said later.

    He suggested a factor that may have contributed to the crash: “There was no evidence of braking throughout this collision. It is speculated and believed that Tiger Woods inadvertently hit the accelerator instead of the brake pedal.” The accelerator was pushed down just below the maximum, Powers said.

    The car eventually hit a tree, which “caused the vehicle to go airborne and do a somewhat pirouette, landing on its side,” Powers added.

    • Replies: @The Anti-Gnostic
    @Jack D

    Porsche doesn't make cars like James Dean's Spyder any more. You have to drive a modern Porsche coupe very, very recklessly to try and leave the road with it unlike that ugly, top-heavy thing Woods was driving.

    Any way, you've given me another opportunity to roll out my favorite Tiger Woods rant.


    I doubt he’s any more an asshole than the usual high-achieving celebrity. I think he stiffed his SEAL buddies because he really doesn’t know how to be a celebrity; he’s still kind of a middle-class guy. Phil Mickelson, by contrast, would have grabbed that check right out of the waitress’s hand and left her a $1,000 tip.

    Same with Tiger’s car wreck. There he is, driving his top-heavy SUV/soccer mom-mobile, pissed off and speeding because he’s late to give a golf lesson to Drew Brees. WTF?!

    Now let’s say Drew Brees told Phil Mickelson he wanted a golf lesson. Phil would tell him OK I’m free x weekend. How about you meet me at my home course with two of your teammates. Bring plenty of cash because I like to bet on each hole. I’ll grab some of the club pros to caddy for us and they can give you tips during the round because I’m going to be too busy talking you up and being a celebrity. Then you can ride with me while I floor it in my safe, road-hugging Porsche to my favorite restaurant for drinks and dinner. On me.

    Tiger actually seems to be leaving his tomcat days behind and relaxing into the role of being a dad, which is great. The world needs good dads.
     

    Replies: @Alec Leamas (hard at work), @Jack D, @Mike Tre, @Brutusale

  155. @MB

    Supreme Court Justice Ketanji Brown Jackson was asked how she would define a woman during her confirmation hearings, for example.

    “I’m not a biologist.”
     
    Next question for our genius jurist is: Are you a woman/How can you tell/Are you sure?

    Runner up: What is your name?

    Runner up #2: How can you defend a woman's right to kill her child, when you can't tell us what a woman is?

    Runner up #1 to Runner up #2: How many fingers am I holding up, 26 or 32?

    Replies: @Jonathan Mason, @Muggles

    A good follow up question for Kenji would have been:

    President Biden said he would nominate only a black woman. So are you a black woman? How do you know, if you are not a biologist?

    (Okay, two questions.)

  156. @Jack D
    @The Anti-Gnostic


    And not like that poor schlep Tiger Woods, who nearly loses his leg driving a top-heavy soccer mom-mobile
     
    There was absolutely nothing wrong with the Genesis GV80 that Woods was driving. It is rated as Top Safety Pick+ (the highest possible rating) by the insurance institute testing organization. In fact, the car, with its high strength steel and airbags galore, saved Woods's life. If he had been driving a nice little low center of gravity car like James Dean's Porsche Spyder he would have been dead, dead, dead instead of only having his leg shattered. The accident was purely due to Woods's extreme recklessness. If you drive full throttle into a tree at 75mph it doesn't make any difference where the center of gravity is. In an old school '57 Chevy, at 75 mph into a tree, the steering column ends up in the back seat and you are crushed like a bug.

    https://media.npr.org/assets/img/2021/04/07/ap21096849306937-69bac5820ac03d6fcb46e1bbe2cb715ee2164324-s900-c85.webp


    "Estimated speeds at the first area of impact were 84 to 87 mph, and the final estimated speed when the vehicle struck the tree was 75 mph," Sheriff Alex Villanueva told reporters as he announced the department's findings about the cause of the crash.

    The posted speed on the road was 45 mph, Capt. James Powers said later.

    He suggested a factor that may have contributed to the crash: "There was no evidence of braking throughout this collision. It is speculated and believed that Tiger Woods inadvertently hit the accelerator instead of the brake pedal." The accelerator was pushed down just below the maximum, Powers said.

    The car eventually hit a tree, which "caused the vehicle to go airborne and do a somewhat pirouette, landing on its side," Powers added.
     

    Replies: @The Anti-Gnostic

    Porsche doesn’t make cars like James Dean’s Spyder any more. You have to drive a modern Porsche coupe very, very recklessly to try and leave the road with it unlike that ugly, top-heavy thing Woods was driving.

    Any way, you’ve given me another opportunity to roll out my favorite Tiger Woods rant.

    I doubt he’s any more an asshole than the usual high-achieving celebrity. I think he stiffed his SEAL buddies because he really doesn’t know how to be a celebrity; he’s still kind of a middle-class guy. Phil Mickelson, by contrast, would have grabbed that check right out of the waitress’s hand and left her a \$1,000 tip.

    Same with Tiger’s car wreck. There he is, driving his top-heavy SUV/soccer mom-mobile, pissed off and speeding because he’s late to give a golf lesson to Drew Brees. WTF?!

    Now let’s say Drew Brees told Phil Mickelson he wanted a golf lesson. Phil would tell him OK I’m free x weekend. How about you meet me at my home course with two of your teammates. Bring plenty of cash because I like to bet on each hole. I’ll grab some of the club pros to caddy for us and they can give you tips during the round because I’m going to be too busy talking you up and being a celebrity. Then you can ride with me while I floor it in my safe, road-hugging Porsche to my favorite restaurant for drinks and dinner. On me.

    Tiger actually seems to be leaving his tomcat days behind and relaxing into the role of being a dad, which is great. The world needs good dads.

    • Replies: @Alec Leamas (hard at work)
    @The Anti-Gnostic


    Porsche doesn’t make cars like James Dean’s Spyder any more. You have to drive a modern Porsche coupe very, very recklessly to try and leave the road with it unlike that ugly, top-heavy thing Woods was driving.
     
    The rear engine is fine, and the suspension and tires make it handle great - right until the split second they can't anymore. I know from some experience. You don't expect a car to do what they do in such a case - but they do. Knowing where that edge is . . .

    The 911 should by all account have been a mid engine by now (the Carrera GT was a signal in that direction) but the obstinate German engineers are stuck solving the problem of a rear engine car that can forever be improved but never completely resolved. But that's all a part of the fun of fast women and rear engine sports cars.
    , @Jack D
    @The Anti-Gnostic

    https://i.insider.com/603584ead920880018591aad?width=700&format=jpeg&auto=webp

    If you're a poor driver like Woods and you're doing 85 in a 45 zone and you suddenly come to a sharp unexpected curve on an unfamiliar road (and don't even try to slow down), you're going to drive off the road even if you have a Carrera. Again, zero to do with the center of gravity. He didn't flip it, he drove straight when the road curved. He crossed the oncoming lanes and hit a tree on the other side of the road and the car went airborne. It was lucky that no one else was coming or he would have T- boned some poor innocent or vice versa.

    The only bad thing about the GV80 is that unlike the soccermobiles of the past, it has 375hp, which was something once found only in Formula 1 cars. This allows idiots to drive themselves into a lot of trouble.

    , @Mike Tre
    @The Anti-Gnostic

    "I think he stiffed his SEAL buddies because he really doesn’t know how to be a celebrity"

    I think this is more to do with being half black. Blacks are notoriously stingy, cheap and bad tippers when it comes to eating out.

    Like the three negresses that trashed a fast food joint in NYC a couple days ago because they were charged a dollar for extra sauce.

    , @Brutusale
    @The Anti-Gnostic

    The biggest problem the golf establishment had with the late Dan Jenkins wasn't his hilarious sexist, racist, homophobic, etc. writing, but that he was the only writer willing to call Woods the dick that he is.

    Replies: @middle-aged vet

  157. @J.Ross
    OT -- I want you to use all your powers and your skills as a blogger. I don't want his mother to see him like this.
    https://nypost.com/2022/07/07/james-caan-the-godfather-and-misery-star-dead-at-82/

    Replies: @MEH 0910

    Deaths come in threes. James Caan, Shinzo Abe, and now Larry Storch:

    https://nypost.com/2022/07/08/larry-storch-guest-star-known-for-f-troop-dies-at-99/

    • Replies: @MEH 0910
    @MEH 0910


    Deaths come in threes. James Caan, Shinzo Abe, and now Larry Storch:
     
    If just sticking to actors, Shinzo Abe can be swapped out for Joe Turkel:

    https://www.nytimes.com/2022/07/04/movies/joe-turkel-dead.html
    https://archive.ph/s4dKo
    https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1544175523261300738

    https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/joe-turkel-dead-shining-blade-runner-1235174986/

    Replies: @MEH 0910

  158. @Reg Cæsar
    @Jack D

    Is there an autogynOphelia Complex? What would one look like?

    Replies: @Stan Adams

    Lia is Ophelia:

  159. @Alec Leamas (hard at work)
    @Merema


    I don’t understand this blaming many things on autism. Autism is a heartbreaking and devastating developmental disorder. The vast majority those who suffer from it (99%) wouldn’t begin to understand gender politics. A few that have a mild version might, but what evidence is there that transwomen are “austistic ex-men”.

    Trannies probably have mental health issues, but not autism.

     

    I don't know if you meant to respond to someone else because I didn't discuss autism in the post to which you responded, but since you commented on it people on the autism spectrum are vastly disproportionately likely to identify as Alphabet people.

    Some of this is likely because their inability to interpret connotations and shades of meaning (especially polite lies which the rest of us understand to be everyday social lubricants rather than declarations of fact) makes them guileless - so an autistic girl may genuinely believe that modern medical science can turn her into a real boy because all of a sudden everyone with credentials says so. Likewise, they're probably unable to interpret declared soft support for Alphabet causes by people who really just want to be left alone for what it is - people saying what they need to say in order to remain employable but who are disgusted by lots of gay stuff and would absolutely consider it a crisis if one of their own kids declared to be an Alphabet person.

    In sum, they're only able to read society's text, not its subtext, so the Alphabet propaganda has hit them particularly hard.

    Replies: @Merema

    I meant to respond to someone else-my bad.

    An autistic girl would be highly social withdrawn and award and would not begin to comprehend Alphabet ideology. If anything it is think the trans are people who are actually very sociable people with strong self awareness.

    Please provide source.

  160. @Alec Leamas (hard at work)
    @Jack D


    Autistic is used loosely nowadays, the way that calling someone “a retard” used to be before it was stigmatized. You need to be able to call your enemies negative names but since modern society puts so many names off limits you have to keep coming up with new ones.
     
    If autism is extreme left brain/masculine brain thinking that obsesses over objects and doesn't handle emotion or people well, engineering oneself to be female from male by re-routing some tubes, moving flesh and fat around, and applying hormones is a pretty extreme male-brained thing to do. In such a case they're fabricating the object of their obsessions, just using themselves as the raw material. Think about modding a bike or a car or a dozen other things that boys and men do, but on a more audacious scale because of an utter inability to divorce the desired object from the self that makes it. You have to be really far gone down a rabbit hole to not be able to understand that being a woman is so much more subjective than the experience of a male inhabiting even the most convincing simulacrum of a woman's body.

    Replies: @Dieter Kief, @Curle

    You have to be really far gone down a rabbit hole to not be able to understand that being a woman is so much more subjective than the experience of a male inhabiting even the most convincing simulacrum of a woman’s body.

    Narcissism is the inability to develop a seperated self (seen through this lens, narcissism is not least a form of symbiosis). So – this is the name of the rabbit hole your’re speaking about in psychoanalytical terms.

    (I liked your post a lot. Great stuff – the modeling part not least. I think your take might be (a bit) closer to the psychoanalytical understanding of trans-men as Steve’s autogynephilia theorem even though both models are quite close together.)

    • Replies: @Alec Leamas (hard at work)
    @Dieter Kief


    Narcissism is the inability to develop a seperated self (seen through this lens, narcissism is not least a form of symbiosis). So – this is the name of the rabbit hole your’re speaking about in psychoanalytical terms.

    (I liked your post a lot. Great stuff – the modeling part not least. I think your take might be (a bit) closer to the psychoanalytical understanding of trans-men as Steve’s autogynephilia theorem even though both models are quite close together.)
     
    Thanks, but I think trans (like all Alphabet mania) is multi-causal. Both can be true - there does seem to be a high-speed otherwise successful type of MtF autogynephile (who becomes, quelle surprise, a lesbian at the same time as declaring trans) - these guys were perhaps high-T and as we know the constituents of hormones can be fungible and when you pump steroids (as suspected with Jenner) it messes with the receptors too. These were guy's guys who became guy's (projection of) women (who still love women, why do you ask?) They're also on the leading edge of the activism push, and not afraid to be the surgically altered, publicized face of the movement (Jenner/Levin).

    On the other end there are socially awkward shut-ins who become trans for different reasons (autism is correlated, so it probably makes them especially susceptible to the social mania). They're more victims than fetishists, as when the medical establishment and sense-making institutions declare as holy writ that "identifies as women" is the definition of woman, they can't parse the text from the subtext. They probably sincerely believe that if you tick the medically determined (under activist pressure) definition of "woman," you become woman. It's also the case that socially inept people may be attracted to a social movement purporting at its surface level to provide acceptance and approval without understanding that the very reason for its existence is that people won't accept and approve of its members when left to their own devices in the privacy of their own thoughts.
  161. @Curle
    @Mike Tre

    Let me rephrase, what social privileges are the trannies picking up from women that neither should have? I’m thinking that: 1) access to their own bathrooms is an privilege women deserve; 2) their own sports system; 3) their own schools if they want them; 4) their own clubs if they want them (and so should men); and 5) their own dressing rooms.

    Replies: @Mike Tre, @Alec Leamas (hard at work)

    Let me rephrase, what social privileges are the trannies picking up from women that neither should have? I’m thinking that: 1) access to their own bathrooms is an privilege women deserve; 2) their own sports system; 3) their own schools if they want them; 4) their own clubs if they want them (and so should men); and 5) their own dressing rooms.

    World War T has brought some of this stuff into the fore. With regard to 1, I wasn’t aware until recently that until the suffragette era women’s restrooms in public venues didn’t really exist, as women weren’t expected (and, there being no women’s restroom, it would discourage them from doing many things outside their homes or the homes of kith and kin). This was quite literally a social innovation that made some sort of quasi-independent public life available to women. This is more or less the same thing for dressing rooms, which handles 5.

    As for 3, girls’ schools and women’s colleges were a thing for quite some time, though the latter largely reserved for the upper classes. All but the most elite women’s colleges have, over time, dwindled and many have gone coeducational by accepting male students in order to continue as institutions. So you’d have to say that post sexual revolution, the dearth of women’s colleges is something that women did to themselves by revealing their own preferences in the post-secondary education market.

    Girl’s and women’s clubs, whether independent or as auxiliaries for men’s clubs, have also been something with a long provenance, although being populated by society women they tended to become fertile grounds for social agitation and incubators/popularizers for the virus of feminism.

    That leaves women’s sports, which haven’t really been important to anyone other than social engineers. If you make women’s sports as esteemed as the market reveals them to be, what sort of victory will pumped-up trannies achieve by taking them over? It’d just be another freak show.

  162. @Dieter Kief
    @Alec Leamas (hard at work)


    You have to be really far gone down a rabbit hole to not be able to understand that being a woman is so much more subjective than the experience of a male inhabiting even the most convincing simulacrum of a woman’s body.
     
    Narcissism is the inability to develop a seperated self (seen through this lens, narcissism is not least a form of symbiosis). So - this is the name of the rabbit hole your're speaking about in psychoanalytical terms.

    (I liked your post a lot. Great stuff - the modeling part not least. I think your take might be (a bit) closer to the psychoanalytical understanding of trans-men as Steve's autogynephilia theorem even though both models are quite close together.)

    Replies: @Alec Leamas (hard at work)

    Narcissism is the inability to develop a seperated self (seen through this lens, narcissism is not least a form of symbiosis). So – this is the name of the rabbit hole your’re speaking about in psychoanalytical terms.

    (I liked your post a lot. Great stuff – the modeling part not least. I think your take might be (a bit) closer to the psychoanalytical understanding of trans-men as Steve’s autogynephilia theorem even though both models are quite close together.)

    Thanks, but I think trans (like all Alphabet mania) is multi-causal. Both can be true – there does seem to be a high-speed otherwise successful type of MtF autogynephile (who becomes, quelle surprise, a lesbian at the same time as declaring trans) – these guys were perhaps high-T and as we know the constituents of hormones can be fungible and when you pump steroids (as suspected with Jenner) it messes with the receptors too. These were guy’s guys who became guy’s (projection of) women (who still love women, why do you ask?) They’re also on the leading edge of the activism push, and not afraid to be the surgically altered, publicized face of the movement (Jenner/Levin).

    On the other end there are socially awkward shut-ins who become trans for different reasons (autism is correlated, so it probably makes them especially susceptible to the social mania). They’re more victims than fetishists, as when the medical establishment and sense-making institutions declare as holy writ that “identifies as women” is the definition of woman, they can’t parse the text from the subtext. They probably sincerely believe that if you tick the medically determined (under activist pressure) definition of “woman,” you become woman. It’s also the case that socially inept people may be attracted to a social movement purporting at its surface level to provide acceptance and approval without understanding that the very reason for its existence is that people won’t accept and approve of its members when left to their own devices in the privacy of their own thoughts.

  163. @The Anti-Gnostic
    @Jack D

    Porsche doesn't make cars like James Dean's Spyder any more. You have to drive a modern Porsche coupe very, very recklessly to try and leave the road with it unlike that ugly, top-heavy thing Woods was driving.

    Any way, you've given me another opportunity to roll out my favorite Tiger Woods rant.


    I doubt he’s any more an asshole than the usual high-achieving celebrity. I think he stiffed his SEAL buddies because he really doesn’t know how to be a celebrity; he’s still kind of a middle-class guy. Phil Mickelson, by contrast, would have grabbed that check right out of the waitress’s hand and left her a $1,000 tip.

    Same with Tiger’s car wreck. There he is, driving his top-heavy SUV/soccer mom-mobile, pissed off and speeding because he’s late to give a golf lesson to Drew Brees. WTF?!

    Now let’s say Drew Brees told Phil Mickelson he wanted a golf lesson. Phil would tell him OK I’m free x weekend. How about you meet me at my home course with two of your teammates. Bring plenty of cash because I like to bet on each hole. I’ll grab some of the club pros to caddy for us and they can give you tips during the round because I’m going to be too busy talking you up and being a celebrity. Then you can ride with me while I floor it in my safe, road-hugging Porsche to my favorite restaurant for drinks and dinner. On me.

    Tiger actually seems to be leaving his tomcat days behind and relaxing into the role of being a dad, which is great. The world needs good dads.
     

    Replies: @Alec Leamas (hard at work), @Jack D, @Mike Tre, @Brutusale

    Porsche doesn’t make cars like James Dean’s Spyder any more. You have to drive a modern Porsche coupe very, very recklessly to try and leave the road with it unlike that ugly, top-heavy thing Woods was driving.

    The rear engine is fine, and the suspension and tires make it handle great – right until the split second they can’t anymore. I know from some experience. You don’t expect a car to do what they do in such a case – but they do. Knowing where that edge is . . .

    The 911 should by all account have been a mid engine by now (the Carrera GT was a signal in that direction) but the obstinate German engineers are stuck solving the problem of a rear engine car that can forever be improved but never completely resolved. But that’s all a part of the fun of fast women and rear engine sports cars.

  164. @The Anti-Gnostic
    @Jack D

    Porsche doesn't make cars like James Dean's Spyder any more. You have to drive a modern Porsche coupe very, very recklessly to try and leave the road with it unlike that ugly, top-heavy thing Woods was driving.

    Any way, you've given me another opportunity to roll out my favorite Tiger Woods rant.


    I doubt he’s any more an asshole than the usual high-achieving celebrity. I think he stiffed his SEAL buddies because he really doesn’t know how to be a celebrity; he’s still kind of a middle-class guy. Phil Mickelson, by contrast, would have grabbed that check right out of the waitress’s hand and left her a $1,000 tip.

    Same with Tiger’s car wreck. There he is, driving his top-heavy SUV/soccer mom-mobile, pissed off and speeding because he’s late to give a golf lesson to Drew Brees. WTF?!

    Now let’s say Drew Brees told Phil Mickelson he wanted a golf lesson. Phil would tell him OK I’m free x weekend. How about you meet me at my home course with two of your teammates. Bring plenty of cash because I like to bet on each hole. I’ll grab some of the club pros to caddy for us and they can give you tips during the round because I’m going to be too busy talking you up and being a celebrity. Then you can ride with me while I floor it in my safe, road-hugging Porsche to my favorite restaurant for drinks and dinner. On me.

    Tiger actually seems to be leaving his tomcat days behind and relaxing into the role of being a dad, which is great. The world needs good dads.
     

    Replies: @Alec Leamas (hard at work), @Jack D, @Mike Tre, @Brutusale

    https://i.insider.com/603584ead920880018591aad?width=700&format=jpeg&auto=webp

    If you’re a poor driver like Woods and you’re doing 85 in a 45 zone and you suddenly come to a sharp unexpected curve on an unfamiliar road (and don’t even try to slow down), you’re going to drive off the road even if you have a Carrera. Again, zero to do with the center of gravity. He didn’t flip it, he drove straight when the road curved. He crossed the oncoming lanes and hit a tree on the other side of the road and the car went airborne. It was lucky that no one else was coming or he would have T- boned some poor innocent or vice versa.

    The only bad thing about the GV80 is that unlike the soccermobiles of the past, it has 375hp, which was something once found only in Formula 1 cars. This allows idiots to drive themselves into a lot of trouble.

  165. @Alec Leamas (hard at work)
    @Jack D


    Autistic is used loosely nowadays, the way that calling someone “a retard” used to be before it was stigmatized. You need to be able to call your enemies negative names but since modern society puts so many names off limits you have to keep coming up with new ones.
     
    If autism is extreme left brain/masculine brain thinking that obsesses over objects and doesn't handle emotion or people well, engineering oneself to be female from male by re-routing some tubes, moving flesh and fat around, and applying hormones is a pretty extreme male-brained thing to do. In such a case they're fabricating the object of their obsessions, just using themselves as the raw material. Think about modding a bike or a car or a dozen other things that boys and men do, but on a more audacious scale because of an utter inability to divorce the desired object from the self that makes it. You have to be really far gone down a rabbit hole to not be able to understand that being a woman is so much more subjective than the experience of a male inhabiting even the most convincing simulacrum of a woman's body.

    Replies: @Dieter Kief, @Curle

    If it is an male brain trait that manifests itself into mimicking that which they desire, females, what are female to male trannies trying to accomplish? Make their bodies fit their brains?

  166. @Rob
    @Johann Ricke

    What Hispanic item is that? Sad to say, I have not been keeping up with comments here. Barely keeping up with posts.

    Replies: @Johann Ricke

    What Hispanic item is that? Sad to say, I have not been keeping up with comments here. Barely keeping up with posts.

    The one where Alvin Bragg, Manhattan DA, is charging a Hispanic bodega clerk for murder because he knifed a black thug who was beating him up.

    • Thanks: Rob
  167. @Peter Akuleyev
    @Gamecock


    part of a larger, worldwide trend of making gendered language more inclusive
     
    Or we could just all speak Turkish or Mandarin, both non-gendered languages (the spoken varieties at least), and adopt their progressive attitudes toward women and LGBTQ+ people.

    Replies: @middle-aged vet

    “how to say you do not understand linguistics without saying you do not understand linguistics”

  168. @The Anti-Gnostic
    @Jack D

    Porsche doesn't make cars like James Dean's Spyder any more. You have to drive a modern Porsche coupe very, very recklessly to try and leave the road with it unlike that ugly, top-heavy thing Woods was driving.

    Any way, you've given me another opportunity to roll out my favorite Tiger Woods rant.


    I doubt he’s any more an asshole than the usual high-achieving celebrity. I think he stiffed his SEAL buddies because he really doesn’t know how to be a celebrity; he’s still kind of a middle-class guy. Phil Mickelson, by contrast, would have grabbed that check right out of the waitress’s hand and left her a $1,000 tip.

    Same with Tiger’s car wreck. There he is, driving his top-heavy SUV/soccer mom-mobile, pissed off and speeding because he’s late to give a golf lesson to Drew Brees. WTF?!

    Now let’s say Drew Brees told Phil Mickelson he wanted a golf lesson. Phil would tell him OK I’m free x weekend. How about you meet me at my home course with two of your teammates. Bring plenty of cash because I like to bet on each hole. I’ll grab some of the club pros to caddy for us and they can give you tips during the round because I’m going to be too busy talking you up and being a celebrity. Then you can ride with me while I floor it in my safe, road-hugging Porsche to my favorite restaurant for drinks and dinner. On me.

    Tiger actually seems to be leaving his tomcat days behind and relaxing into the role of being a dad, which is great. The world needs good dads.
     

    Replies: @Alec Leamas (hard at work), @Jack D, @Mike Tre, @Brutusale

    “I think he stiffed his SEAL buddies because he really doesn’t know how to be a celebrity”

    I think this is more to do with being half black. Blacks are notoriously stingy, cheap and bad tippers when it comes to eating out.

    Like the three negresses that trashed a fast food joint in NYC a couple days ago because they were charged a dollar for extra sauce.

  169. I think we should take a step back here with all of the Alphabet groups and reference the fact that some sort of environmental contaminant may be contributing to the Alphabet people surge – endocrine disruptors, pseudoestrogens, etc. So, all else equal (it’s not, but still) males are less “male” than in generations past, and women less “female” as well. It may be the case that some or most of the people who “don’t feel female” feel that way because their bodies aren’t producing normal levels of sex hormones because they have endocrine disorders. There doesn’t seem to be any inquiry into what appears to be a rather logical and simple explanation for such a dysphoria – the subject doesn’t have enough of the hormone that makes one feel male or female to start.

    Female to male transsexuals really seemed to be weighted to lower age cohorts and as the Alphabet has expanded and mainstreamed (and straight-ish girls and women identify with it) there doesn’t seem to be a social space for homely women who can’t or don’t want to be with men. Katie Herzog, herself a soft butch lesbian writes about the disappearance of lesbians – lesbian bars, clubs, social gatherings, etc. They’ve all been taken over by FTM transsexuals. The catalyst here seems to have been the 2000s left wing internet culture, particularly online feminist spaces and tumblr specifically. If you are convinced that the social order is constructed to oppress you because of y0ur sex, and you’re not a particularly good exemplar of that sex anyway (i.e., not much sincere romantic interest from men), or if you’re so damaged that you’ve already sworn off men entirely, the solution to your problems could look like “can’t beat ’em, join ’em.” You have to observe, however, that FTM “detransitioners” often report that the ideation of themselves as men was ridiculous – one was a chubby lesbian before who confessed to truly believing that after transition she would look like a male Abercrombie & Fitch model. This is something that psychological screening should pick up on, but the medical model (under activist pressure) is “affirming care” rather than actual healthcare for the patient.

  170. @The Anti-Gnostic
    @Trinity

    OT: That reminds me. Gene Simmons and Paul Stanley are the greatest Jewish rock stars and no other Jew is even close. Bob Dylan has the artistic and bohemian-celebrity chops but I don't really think 'rock star' for Bob Dylan. (I missed the 'Where Are the Jewish Rock Stars' thread and don't feel like wading thru it.)

    Replies: @Trinity, @Harry Baldwin, @JimDandy, @YetAnotherAnon, @Hilarious Racism Reference

    Look at this guy, forgetting Donald Fagen…hand over the keys to your hot tub

  171. No wonder straight White men built everything worth a shit and took over the world. Everybody else is a farking retarded lunatic.

  172. @The Anti-Gnostic
    @Jack D

    Porsche doesn't make cars like James Dean's Spyder any more. You have to drive a modern Porsche coupe very, very recklessly to try and leave the road with it unlike that ugly, top-heavy thing Woods was driving.

    Any way, you've given me another opportunity to roll out my favorite Tiger Woods rant.


    I doubt he’s any more an asshole than the usual high-achieving celebrity. I think he stiffed his SEAL buddies because he really doesn’t know how to be a celebrity; he’s still kind of a middle-class guy. Phil Mickelson, by contrast, would have grabbed that check right out of the waitress’s hand and left her a $1,000 tip.

    Same with Tiger’s car wreck. There he is, driving his top-heavy SUV/soccer mom-mobile, pissed off and speeding because he’s late to give a golf lesson to Drew Brees. WTF?!

    Now let’s say Drew Brees told Phil Mickelson he wanted a golf lesson. Phil would tell him OK I’m free x weekend. How about you meet me at my home course with two of your teammates. Bring plenty of cash because I like to bet on each hole. I’ll grab some of the club pros to caddy for us and they can give you tips during the round because I’m going to be too busy talking you up and being a celebrity. Then you can ride with me while I floor it in my safe, road-hugging Porsche to my favorite restaurant for drinks and dinner. On me.

    Tiger actually seems to be leaving his tomcat days behind and relaxing into the role of being a dad, which is great. The world needs good dads.
     

    Replies: @Alec Leamas (hard at work), @Jack D, @Mike Tre, @Brutusale

    The biggest problem the golf establishment had with the late Dan Jenkins wasn’t his hilarious sexist, racist, homophobic, etc. writing, but that he was the only writer willing to call Woods the dick that he is.

    • Agree: The Anti-Gnostic
    • Replies: @middle-aged vet
    @Brutusale

    Anyone who knows much about the tour knows what percentage of golfers are, well,let's say, not someone you'd want to be friends with.

    Woods is far from the worst.

  173. @MEH 0910
    @J.Ross

    Deaths come in threes. James Caan, Shinzo Abe, and now Larry Storch:

    https://nypost.com/2022/07/08/larry-storch-guest-star-known-for-f-troop-dies-at-99/
    https://twitter.com/nypost/status/1545451992985780228

    Replies: @MEH 0910

    Deaths come in threes. James Caan, Shinzo Abe, and now Larry Storch:

    If just sticking to actors, Shinzo Abe can be swapped out for Joe Turkel:

    https://www.nytimes.com/2022/07/04/movies/joe-turkel-dead.html
    https://archive.ph/s4dKo

    https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/joe-turkel-dead-shining-blade-runner-1235174986/

    • Replies: @MEH 0910
    @MEH 0910

    https://variety.com/2022/film/obituaries-people-news/lq-jones-dead-boy-and-his-dog-wild-bunch-casino-1235312747/
    https://twitter.com/Variety/status/1545875314919833600

    A Boy and His Dog (1975) ORIGINAL TRAILER
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eM7MCPF36xM


    The original trailer in high definition of A Boy and His Dog directed by L.Q. Jones and starring Don Johnson, Jason Robards, Susanne Benton, Jason Robards, Tim McIntire and Alvy Moore.
     
  174. @MEH 0910
    @MEH 0910


    Deaths come in threes. James Caan, Shinzo Abe, and now Larry Storch:
     
    If just sticking to actors, Shinzo Abe can be swapped out for Joe Turkel:

    https://www.nytimes.com/2022/07/04/movies/joe-turkel-dead.html
    https://archive.ph/s4dKo
    https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1544175523261300738

    https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/joe-turkel-dead-shining-blade-runner-1235174986/

    Replies: @MEH 0910

    https://variety.com/2022/film/obituaries-people-news/lq-jones-dead-boy-and-his-dog-wild-bunch-casino-1235312747/


    [MORE]

    A Boy and His Dog (1975) ORIGINAL TRAILER

    The original trailer in high definition of A Boy and His Dog directed by L.Q. Jones and starring Don Johnson, Jason Robards, Susanne Benton, Jason Robards, Tim McIntire and Alvy Moore.

  175. @Brutusale
    @The Anti-Gnostic

    The biggest problem the golf establishment had with the late Dan Jenkins wasn't his hilarious sexist, racist, homophobic, etc. writing, but that he was the only writer willing to call Woods the dick that he is.

    Replies: @middle-aged vet

    Anyone who knows much about the tour knows what percentage of golfers are, well,let’s say, not someone you’d want to be friends with.

    Woods is far from the worst.

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