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From Vox:

It’s time to stop demonizing “invasive” species

Climate change is forcing some animals to move. Don’t call them “invasives.”

By Marina Bolotnikova Nov 28, 2021, 8:00am EST

… “Invasive species” is a concept so ingrained in American consciousness that it’s taken on a life of its own, coloring the way we judge the health of ecosystems and neatly dividing life on Earth into native and invasive.

A 2018 Orange County Register story on Wallingford’s work, for example, called the dark unicorn snails “climate invaders.” “I think any time you introduce this idea of a new species, there’s sort of this inherent reaction of, ‘Oh, that’s bad, right?’” Wallingford says. But she encouraged local stakeholders not to try to remove them.

For decades, invasion has been a defining paradigm in environmental policy, determining what gets done with limited conservation budgets. Species deemed invasive have often been killed in gruesome ways. Even though invasion biologists readily point out that many non-native species never become problematic, the invasion concept almost by definition makes scientists skeptical of species moving around. But a growing community of scientists and environmental philosophers now question whether a concept defined by a species’ geographic origin can capture the ethical and ecological complexities of life on a rapidly changing planet. In the 21st century, there’s no such thing as an undisrupted ecosystem, and this will only become truer as climate change and habitat loss accelerate. It’s crucial that we get this right.

… Detractors said that merely linking climate-tracking species with invaders taints them by association. Range-shifters ought to be seen “not as invasive species to keep out, but rather as the refugees of climate change that need our assistance,” University of Connecticut ecologist Mark Urban argued in a comment published in the same journal issue.

Climate change and the range shifts it’s causing are extraordinary circumstances. If a species flees a habitat that is burning or melting, is it ever fair to call it invasive? Even outside of a climate context, this tension reflects a more fundamental problem within the invasive species paradigm. If the label is so stigmatizing that the only appropriate response feels like extermination, perhaps something else needs to take its place.

… British ecologist Charles Elton drew attention to non-native species in his 1958 book The Ecology of Invasion by Animals and Plants, arguing that there is a place, or niche, for every species on the planet where they’ve evolved to survive. Those that move, he believed, should be removed.

… Some conceptions of invasive species’ harms are questionable.

For example, invasives can be considered a threat not only by killing or outcompeting native species but also by mating with them. To protect the “genetic integrity” of species, conservationists often go to extraordinary lengths to prevent animals from hybridizing, environmental writer Emma Marris points out in her book Wild Souls: Freedom and Flourishing in the Non-Human World. Consider the effort in North Carolina to prevent coyotes from breeding with endangered red wolves, which bears uncomfortable parallels to Western preoccupations with racial purity that only recently went out of fashion.

That’s why some scientists look askance at the influence of invasion biology and argue that the field has a baked-in, nativist bias on documenting negative consequences of introduced species and preserving nature as it is. Invasion biology is like epidemiology, the study of disease spread, biologists Matthew Chew and Scott Carroll wrote in a widely read opinion piece a decade ago, in that it is “a discipline explicitly devoted to destroying that which it studies.”

Historically, the term has erroneously expanded to the idea of, “‘If you’re not from here, then you are most likely going to be invasive,’” Sonia Shah, author of The Next Great Migration: The Beauty and Terror of Life on the Move, said on a June 2021 episode of Unexplainable, Vox’s science-mysteries podcast. Conservation policies have been crafted around the idea that if something is not from “here” — however we define that — “then it is likely to become invasive, and therefore we should repel it even before it causes any actual damage,” as Shah says, which is part of the nativist bent that pervades ecological management.

What’s more, the very notion of “invasion” draws on a war metaphor, and media narratives about non-native species are remarkably similar to those describing enemy armies or immigrants. For example, a recent news story in the Guardian about armadillos “besieging” North Carolina described them as “pests” and “freakish.” It also gawked at the animal’s “booming reproduction rate,” an allegation that, not coincidentally, is leveled against human migrants.

Many scholars have explored how anxieties about humans and nonhumans crossing borders, or going places where they don’t “belong,” map onto one another. “The fear of immigration is never isolated to humans,” writes science studies scholar Banu Subramaniam in The Ethics and Rhetoric of Invasion Ecology. “It includes nonhuman migrants in the form of unwanted germs, insects, plants, and animals.”

One important set of interests isn’t considered in invasive species management at all: those of the “invasives” themselves. Arian Wallach, an ecologist at the University of Technology Sydney who is well known for her criticism of invasion biology, calls invasive species “nothing less and nothing more than a curse word” used to demonize species and exclude them from moral consideration. She first began to question invasion biology after she moved for her PhD to Australia, which has some of the most militant invasive species management programs in the world, aimed at protecting the country’s own unique species.

“I started seeing conservationists blowing up animals with bombs, shooting them from helicopters, poisoning them, spreading diseases through them,” she says. Australia has shot feral goats, camels, deer, pigs, and other animals from the sky (a method also used in the US), and the country kills many small mammals with 1080, a poison that is widely regarded as causing an extremely painful death. Invasion biology, Wallach believes, is “a bad idea that’s had its run.”

… Her work serves as a proof of concept for “compassionate conservation,” a movement that opposes the mass killing of some animals in an attempt to save others. A core tenet of this framework is to value animals as individuals with their own moral value, rather than just a member of a species.

It might seem, then, that there’s a trade-off between caring about animals as individuals and caring about them in the context of species and ecosystems, but Wallach argues it’s more complicated. Bias against non-natives doesn’t just harm individuals; it can harm entire species.

… In Tierra del Fuego, at the tip of Chile and Argentina, a particularly dramatic novel ecosystem is taking shape. In 1946, beavers were introduced there in a futile attempt to create a fur industry. Instead, the animals proliferated and munched down the region’s Nothofagus — southern beech — forests, creating dams and ponds. “They are these miraculous world builders,” says Ogden, who wrote an essay imagining the beavers not as invaders, but as a diaspora.

Nothing that even raises questions about the prudence of allowing massive migration from the Third World to the traditionally white world can be allowed to exist.

Maybe you like that red wolves more or less exist and don’t want them to turn into just a type of coyote? But think about how many relatives back home in the Old Country Banu Subramaniam still has. Your concern for red wolves might inspire doubts about the wisdom of bringing over two, three, many more Subramaniams.

 
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  1. • Replies: @ginger bread man
    @Mark Spahn (West Seneca, NY)

    Here’s what I found:

    https://focusingonwildlife.com/news/gray-squirrels-versus-red-squirrels-the-facts/




    While many people have great affection and respect for grey squirrels, they are hated by members of certain groups, most notably those with shooting or forestry interests, and some ‘conservationists’ who believe that the mass killing of greys is justifiable in their quest to boost the number of red squirrels.

    Professor Stephen Harris from the School of Biological Sciences at the University of Bristol studied the effect of grey squirrels on red squirrel numbers.

    He wrote that the vast sums of money spent on red squirrel conservation are not a wise investment, partly because red squirrels are not even an endangered species.

    He wrote: ‘Globally, red squirrel populations are not threatened and the conservation effort in Britain is of little importance.’1

     

  2. What do Native Americans have to say about this?

    (Actually, I don’t really care.)

    • Agree: Mike Tre
    • Replies: @Bill P
    @Anon

    Theyre much plenty mad where I live over the European green crab:

    https://amp.thenewstribune.com/news/state/washington/article256140892.html

    Maybe they'll let me trap the things without having to buy a license. I bet they're tasty.

    For some reason nobody is complaining about the eastern cottontails infesting our county, but they are much cuter than green crabs.

    Replies: @Alec Leamas (working from home)

    , @Tex
    @Anon


    What do Native Americans have to say about this?
     
    They say nothing, but shed one manly tear for what the white man has done.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0sxwGlTLWw
    , @Expletive Deleted
    @Anon

    Invoke the Lotka-Volterra equations. While smoking something toxic and waling on a crap tambourine.
    Before getting back into their nice heated Korean trucks and SUVs.

  3. Don’t call them “invasives.”

    By Marina Bolotnikova

    she encouraged local stakeholders not to try to remove them

    • Thanks: HammerJack
    • LOL: Boomthorkell
  4. Many invasives wreak havoc on native ecosystems: Argentine fire ants, Japanese beetles, Dutch elm disease, emerald ash borer, West Nile Virus, Chinese Covid virus, Asian Tiger mosquito, zebra mussels, Oriental fruit moth, Gypsy moth, Indian meal moth, Med fruit fly, Chestnut blight, Cuban tree frogs, Brazilian pepper, and thousands others.

    Once these foreign invaders are here, they feed on or parasitize, or out breed the native species sometimes causing them to go extinct.

    Our beautiful native species have a right to survive, such as our majestic elms, chestnut and ash trees, which have been driven to near extinction by invasive foreign diseases.

    Some cause permanent costs, which will continue forever, year after year, weakening our economy and well-being, forever.

    It’s so much more efficient to simply keep them out.

    • Agree: Old Prude
    • Replies: @Hannah Katz
    @Patriot

    I suppose some would prefer that Africanized Killer Bees replace the European Honey Bees. After all, the Europeans are mainly interested in making honey and will attack only if they are attacked. The Africans, on the other hand, will attack you unprovoked, and are not so much for making honey. Let's ask Ibram X. Kendi.

    , @The Wild Geese Howard
    @Patriot


    zebra mussels
     
    I have mixed emotions about these.

    Yeah, they clog water pipes.

    On the flipside they've done a masterful job of cleaning up the water in the Great Lakes.
    , @obwandiyag
    @Patriot

    Don't forget lanternflies and kudzu.

    , @Bill Jones
    @Patriot


    Many invasives wreak havoc on native ecosystems:
     
    Jews, Somalis, Colombians... the list is endless.
  5. We need to start using the word “transfection” to describe the deliberate introduction of Alien DNA into a country.

    “Brandon is transfecting the USA by deliberately introducing hostile DNA via open barriers.”

    • Agree: TWS
    • Replies: @Rob
    @Joe Stalin

    Cannot believe i did not think of this! Fantastico!

    Replies: @Rob McX

    , @Mr. Anon
    @Joe Stalin


    We need to start using the word “transfection” to describe the deliberate introduction of Alien DNA into a country.

    “Brandon is transfecting the USA by deliberately introducing hostile DNA via open barriers.”
     

    No, transfection is good! That's what the mRNA and VVDNA vaccines do. They hijack your bodies biochemical machinery to produce spike proteins that transfect the cells (i.e. stick out of the cell walls).

    Just think of immigrants as human spike-proteins, enriching the body-politic with all that spike-protein vibrancy!

    , @Ron Mexico
    @Joe Stalin

    The more I hear about this Brandon guy, the more I don't care for him.

  6. What? Its Anti-White. And Indians are among the worst offenders. They instinctively know that the US and other White nations are moving towards a caste system with Whites at the very bottom but paradoxically being the highly skilled people that keep society running: scientists, engineers, skilled workers, the military. With the leadership caste being exclusively non-White in the near future. And various deluges of Third Worlders coming to get free stuff from the White surplus.

    This is a strategy already collapsing before our eyes. Retiring baby boomers means shortages of skilled workers that can’t be replaced by just mass Third World immigration. Even truck driving of big rigs is a skill that is not easily nor quickly mastered. And the poor treatment of drivers means few wish to be truck drivers; nor is the pay able to attract the limited pool of younger Whites with enough intelligence to drive said trucks. [Even the Top Gear dudes found it difficult to drive the trucks in one segment]. Now multiply that with skilled maintenance of say the power grid, the water supply system, the waste disposal system, America’s military equipment, and shortages just multiply ever higher and higher, until the society collapses.

    The Western World runs on skilled White labor. Period. There simply is no substitute. You can’t just put a bunch of Indian pilots at the controls of jetliners in the West and expect them not to fall out of the sky on a regular basis.

    Vox can say what they like. Not even the greatest ad campaign can fool people for long, indeed the bigger the gap between the promise and the delivery the more angry and embittered the people. Collapse is here — when (not if) the Biden Regency imposes a months long lockdown we will get semi-permanent power collapse in places all over the US. Followed by others. There simply is not enough White people to provide for the flood of talent-less Third Worlders.

  7. Shooting them from airplanes, sending out hunting parties, employing poisoned traps–could be just the things we need to use against the Californians and coastal elites fleeing their degrading ecosystems.

    • Agree: TWS
    • LOL: Alden
  8. Man, that is seriously transparent.

    • Replies: @Ben tillman
    @JR Ewing

    They were bound to do it sooner or later.

  9. The idea that climate change is anything more than an infintesimal contributor to species relocation is laughable.

    • Agree: AnotherDad, TWS
    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @RonaldReagansLoveChildWithMadonna


    The idea that climate change is anything more than an infintesimal contributor to species relocation is laughable.
     
    You didn't specify a time scale for this.

    Replies: @RonaldReagansLoveChildWithMadonna2

  10. OT – Jussie Smollett’s trial started today.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2021/11/29/arts/television/jussie-smollett-trial.html?searchResultPosition=1

    Story appears on p.20 of the print newspaper, so buried as deeply as possible.

    Frankly, unzites are not eager to see this highlighted either because it conflicts with their narrative that Smollett was let go scot free.

    He was, at first, but then a special prosecutor was appointed. The way things work in corrupt big cities is that things like this have to be taken out of local hands. In Philly, a corrupt local union official was just convicted by a Federal jury – not in a million years would anyone from the city touch this case because they were all in on his corruption. After he was convicted, the mayor praised him. His brother sits on the PA Supreme Ct.

    • Troll: Je Suis Omar Mateen
    • Replies: @HammerJack
    @Jack D

    Also OT, and without a NYT link. The Biden NLRB has thrown out the results of the Amazon unionization vote in Alabama.

    71% of workers had voted against union representation, which means according to "democrat labor theory" that 71% of workers are wrong.

    Democracy is currently defined as something we have to do over and over again until we get the results we want.


    The NLRB ruled that Amazon’s actions throughout the mail-in election—including its decision to install a U.S. Postal Service collection box that could have confused employees—were grounds to nullify the results and hold the vote again.
     
    Yes, you read that right. Stuart Appelbaum tweeted that Postal Service boxes (being red white and blue) are "coded racist appeals."


    The NLRB is a federal government agency in charge of enforcing U.S. labor law in collective bargaining and worker disputes. With Democrats holding a majority of the five-person board, labor researchers expect it to side with workers more regularly than during former the administration of former President Donald Trump, a Republican.
     
    That word should be unions.

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/amazon-alabama-workers-to-hold-new-election-federal-labor-official-rules-11638218185

    , @JMcG
    @Jack D

    Thanks, Jack. I was among those that pointed out your prediction of Jussie Smollett’s fate was wrong. It was I that was wrong.

    , @Brutusale
    @Jack D

    Today's most targeted whipping boy (can I even use these terms anymore?) has a great take.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZXoErL2124

    , @J.Ross
    @Jack D

    >their narrative that he was let go scot free

    He was. The DA originally didn't want to press charges. That essentially changed because of the outcry.

  11. In the 21st century, there’s no such thing as an undisrupted ecosystem, and this will only become truer as climate change and habitat loss accelerate. It’s crucial that we get this right.

    Isn’t it the case that, by this logic, nothing should be done against climate change and habitat loss? Why you resist change, you bigot?
    And I’m sure that chick is all for the “compassionate conservation” of large, moist, foul-smelling P. americana thoughout her own domicile…

    • Replies: @the one they call Desanex
    @gabriel alberton

    When la cucaracha approaches,
    Let’s say “Buenos dias” to roaches!
    No, wait, that’s not right.
    Since they come out at night,
    Perhaps we should say “Buenos noches.”

    , @MEH 0910
    @gabriel alberton

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_cockroach


    Despite their name, American cockroaches are native to Africa and the Middle East. They are believed to have been introduced to the Americas only from the 17th century AD onward as a result of human commercial patterns,[2] including the Atlantic slave trade.[5]
     

    Distribution

    Despite the name, none of the Periplaneta species is native to the Americas; P. americana was introduced to what is now the United States from Africa as early as 1625.[2] They are now common in tropical climates because human activity has extended the insects' range of habitation, and are virtually cosmopolitan in distribution as a result of global commerce.[2]
     

    Replies: @MEH 0910, @gabriel alberton

  12. Vox: Prood that more schooling really can make people stupid.

  13. Current invasive species and races are good? Regardless of what it does to native ones? The ecosystems upended? The species driven to extinction? Then European colonization (the real kind) and “exploitation” were also good. Without whites colonizing America, how would Africans have ended up here? Probably not in their own ships — could they even make a sail? A keeled ship? More likely, Indians would have discovered the Old World before Africans could get here on their own.

    [MORE]

    Disease from far away is fine — do they know what Old World diseases did to Indians? Was that hunky-dory? At the least, indifference to what alien diseases can do is disgustingly insensitive to Indians. “Colonization” of the other sort of Indians led to cholera reaching Europe. I’m sure they think that’s ok, but cholera spread to New World Indians.

    Invasive populations mean inevitable extinctions. Eutherian mammals will drive almost all of Australia’s marsupials to extinction. Marsupials on a different island continent were all extincted save the opossum(s) when North and South America crashed together. Surely some Australians realize the Chinese could do to them what they did to the Aborigines? Not even intentionally. Whites as a class did not say “let’s turn the Natives into obese, diabetic, and drunken gasoline huffers” in either ‘Stralia or the Americas. But it happened.

    Disease will likely wipe out the “uncontacted Indians of Brazil’s great green frontier — not because of smallpox-laden blankets — basically a myth — but just by breathing. COVID or basic influenza will decimate them. Those that live? Their culture will be gone in a generation or two — I mean as a living culture, ways of surviving as a people in a given habitat. They will lose the ways that kept them going in a very hostile environment for thousands of years. In exchange? They will get lives of unskilled toil in exchange for alcohol. This, according to Banu, is a good thing.

    The lesson we should draw from ecology and conservationism is that invasion is always bad for the natives! Either the invasion fails — neutral for the natives or it succeeds — bad for the natives. Chestnut blight starved tens, maybe hundreds of thousands of Indians. Was that good? COVID-19 has killed ~600,000 Americans. Is that a net plus? For Americans?

    We absolutely should see parallels between human migrants and invasive species, and find consistency between the two. The consolidation? Species and humans should only be moved when it fills empty holes in the ecosystem or society. Holes usually created by previous invasive populations. Remember Pablo Escobar’s hippos in Colombia? Cocaine kingpin thought they cool, so he had some in his private zoo. They got free. They thrived. South America is very short on large mammals. The ecosystems would be healthier with a greater variety of animals — they have no large grazing mammals. The pampas in Argentina could support zebra and lions with very little harm to native flora and fauna. The holes were caused by mass extinctions, basically to dumb luck. There are plants there that produce fruit that nothing currently living there can eat — a clear niche that could take evolution a million years to fill if it ever does.

    For people, the situation is similar. If the native population would greatly benefit from a particular sort of immigrant, then that sort of immigration is fine. When the US had the huge and nearly empty center of the continent to fill, arguably immigrants who could fit in without drastically altering the character of the society were okay-ish. I hesitate to say they were good or necessary. Taking a century or two to fill the Great Grass Sea with the descendants of Americans would not have been a disaster. In retrospect, Mexico was not a competitor and Canadians are us-ish enough that had they filled the Midwest it would be neutral from the perspective of Western Civilization — that would make an interesting alternate history — Canadians fill roughly from The edge of Cali to Texas.

    Take Africa and Mexico. Huge chunks of both want to come here. They might not like whites, but they like our cargo and bling. Africa’s problem is that it is full of Africans. The Bantu, Xhosa, Anglos, and Afrikaaners show that Africa does not have to be poor. Those ethnic groups live in the same environment. The Anglos got rich, the Afrikaaners had great lifestyles. The Africans? They could not make as much of the place, but South Africa drew in other Africans even during apartheid. They had meaningful rights or political representation living under fellow black Africans, and the cargo and bling were better in South Africa. The only reasonable conclusion is that Africa needs more white people. When you consider that American blacks (several whites per black) have such a material standard of living than South African blacks (one white per several blacks) who have a higher standard of living than other blacks, and the case is sealed. White immigration and control of Africa is the best thing that could happen to Africa. Change the character of society? Most of them want to live under white rule in America, so they want that change. Like South America getting herbivores, it would take Africa centuries to get such a smart and prosocial population.

    In reality, Africa will get the Chinese, so they will slowly turn to Africans to Aboriginal lifestyles. Maybe some Chinlattos will thrive?

    On killing animals with an agonizing poison? We should minimize the suffering we inflict on animals.

    Tl;dr what did you think I’d say? I said that.

    • Agree: Boomthorkell
    • Thanks: HammerJack
  14. Speaking of invasive species, at midnight tonight Barbados is “ditching” the British monarchy (BBC’s word) in favor of a republican government.

    Now, one might say, who cares. But this is a big deal for the BBC–they’re providing live coverage! The symbolism is profound. Anyone who rejects their monarchy, including an island about the size of three Costcos, probably goes on a list. Ask South Africa about how things went for them when they kicked the queen out in 1960.

    • Replies: @Redneck farmer
    @Bragadocious

    Rhodesia. And it didn't go well.
    "We are not Europeans. We are White Africans."

    , @TyRade
    @Bragadocious

    I think Barbados will join S Africa, and just about every former colony ditching even the symbolism of Her Majesty (aka 'civilisation') in generations of seller's remorse. It may be a tactical move, of course - fleeing the monarchy while the tree-hugger, slavery-knee-taker and all round ar$e Charles assumed the throne; who would not contemplate distancing oneself from that dipstick?

    Replies: @Bragadocious, @Alden, @Thea, @Anonymous

    , @AnotherDad
    @Bragadocious


    Speaking of invasive species, at midnight tonight Barbados is “ditching” the British monarchy (BBC’s word) in favor of a republican government.

    Now, one might say, who cares. But this is a big deal for the BBC–they’re providing live coverage! The symbolism is profound. Anyone who rejects their monarchy, including an island about the size of three Costcos, probably goes on a list. Ask South Africa about how things went for them when they kicked the queen out in 1960.
     
    Good for them.

    Republican government--properly, that the productive and responsible men who keep society functioning govern themselves--is the correct form of government. (Not to be confused with the bullying super-state protecting and promoting parasitism that the minoritarians have installed.)

    Elected kingship--"John is the bravest and wisest among us, he should lead"--is fine. Hereditary monarchy is just another parasitic grift. And the only thing the monarchial state is supposed to deliver in return for their looting, is protecting the productive from other people invading and looting. The English monarchy wasn't doing that in Rhodesia or South Africa and doesn't even do it in England!
    , @Jack D
    @Bragadocious


    Ask South Africa about how things went for them when they kicked the queen out in 1960.
     
    Post hoc ergo propter hoc

    Correlation is not causation. Getting rid of the Queen is a symptom of the disease, not the cause.

    I heard someone from Barbados explaining the decision on the BBC. He gave two reasons:

    1. The Queen stands for the history of slavery and therefore is bad. Forgetting that without slavery he wouldn't even BE in Barbados and wouldn't even exist because his ancestors would have been castrated when sold into Arab slavery or eaten by another tribe or maybe worked to death in Brazil. The luckiest moment in his entire ancestry was when his ancestors ended up on a British slave ship.

    2. The second point was actually quite reasonable (but just try this out in the US and see what reaction you get): The head of state should look like her own people. The Queen doesn't look like the average Bardabian and therefore isn't qualified to be their head of state. Now apply this to Kamala.

    Replies: @Bragadocious, @MEH 0910, @Reg Cæsar

  15. The US isn’t “traditionally white,” you stupid boomer sodomite

    • Thanks: anyone with a brain
    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @AndrewR


    The US isn’t “traditionally white,”
     
    Most of the US are. A few of the steamier states are the exception.

    you stupid boomer sodomite
     
    Come back when you sober up and apologize to Steve. Otherwise, we'll take this as a red flag to the real AndrewR.

    There were two (at least two) Andrews posting comments here, and it was difficult to keep them apart. One of them did come out as a sodomite.


    https://www.southerndistillingcompany.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/Happy-St.-Andrews-Day-November-30th.jpg

  16. @Joe Stalin
    We need to start using the word "transfection" to describe the deliberate introduction of Alien DNA into a country.

    "Brandon is transfecting the USA by deliberately introducing hostile DNA via open barriers."

    Replies: @Rob, @Mr. Anon, @Ron Mexico

    Cannot believe i did not think of this! Fantastico!

    • Replies: @Rob McX
    @Rob


    Cannot believe i did not think of this!
     
    But you have coined the word chinlatto. You'll live on as a footnote in 22nd-century editions of the OED.
  17. • LOL: Rob, ic1000
    • Replies: @stillCARealist
    @Dave Pinsen

    Yeah, check out the scolex on any self-respecting tapeworm. They really are built to just hang on and eat.
    My guess is that if a Vox liberal gets a tapeworm, he/she/it will consider it an invader and take the necessary and nasty medication to eradicate it.

    Is covid-19 an invader? Shall we value it as an individual with its own moral value?

  18. Anonymous[950] • Disclaimer says:

    Here in So Cal, I got my ankles chewed up just yesterday by those fucking Indonesian mosquito’s that have fairly recently arrived here. These gnat-looking little fuckers bite repeatedly and voraciously. The insertion tube they have is serrated, so it smarts much more than indigenous mosquitos. They’re like little Tasmanian devils of the mosquito world. Last year they weren’t out biting by this time of year. They seemed to prefer the summer. I guess I’ve been corrected. Plus they bite all day, and all night, aggressively.

    Just another reason to leave this hellhole state.

    It’s probably just a matter of time before these fucking flesh-eating BEES arrive in California.

    These guys can certainly take the piss out of your next Malibu beach party.

    https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2021/11/211123131006.htm

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Anonymous

    Thanks for the mosquito info. Somehow I had tunnel vision that there were no mosquitos in low humidity Los Angeles.
    I suspected I had a flea infestation or bed bugs, but during the night I could hear the mosquito in the night. Definitely very itchy with cortizone not helping much.

    Replies: @Sick 'n Tired

  19. This article has to be trolling. Mentioning Tierra del Fuego, the setting of “Who Will Remember the People?,” Jean Raspail’s novel about the extinction of an indigenous tribe there (and including a cameo by Charles Darwin), seems too on the nose.

    • Replies: @Bert
    @Anonymous

    Jews never troll. They are dead serious and relentless. They never miss an angle by which they could undermine European Caucasians.

    Letter to the Editor [of the Harvard Crimson]
    By Marina N. Bolotnikova
    October 6, 2014
    To the editor:

    As a Jew with a deep bond with the state of Israel, I was saddened and ashamed to watch as the Israeli army killed hundreds of Palestinian civilians in the Gaza Strip this summer, and even more so to witness the reactions of many in the Harvard community as students publicly grieved these injustices. ......
    I experienced a great deal of doubt before deciding to write this letter for fear of offending members of the Jewish community. It shouldn't have to be this way. I am not among a minority but a silent majority of progressive Jews growing increasingly uneasy with Israel's administration.

    https://www.thecrimson.com/article/2014/10/6/letter-israel-palestine-bolotnikova/

    Bolotnikova graduated in journalism from Harvard University.

    Replies: @slumber_j, @Anon

  20. In the U.K. the debate is about an “invasive” grey (American!) squirrel eliminating the native red squirrel. I wondered how long until such an article came out.

    • Replies: @Joe Paluka
    @Welshman

    The problem started in WW2, when the favorite saying when describing the American GI's stationed there was that they were overpaid, oversexed and over here! The Americans are still occupying Britain, only this time they have busy grey tails.

  21. Really strange stuff. The young woman is a recent graduate of Harvard with a BA in Slavic Languages, etc. If Google can be trusted, she is Jewish and from Russia.

    No published books I could find, and probably no serious scholarly articles either. Her twitter site hypes a book about Invasives, and she made a remark there of her desire to write about feral hogs.

    Would she love the Burmese pythons in Florida? Does she embrace black rats? Kudzu? The brown snakes of Guam? The rabbits of Australia? Fire ants are moving North. Will the Harvard graduate welcome those fire ants when they arrive at wherever she lives?

    Why is Mr. Sailer hyping this stuff? Is he a fan of Marina Bolotnikova’s beliefs? A relative?

    Nothing at all is clear here.

    I’m on the other side of this issue, having recently spent too many thousands of dollars removing dead Ash trees here. So I’m not going to play kissy-face with the invasive Emerald Ash Borer.

    Personally I believe Ms. Bolotnikova should stick with topics she better understands – Slavic Languages, maybe.

    • Replies: @Alfa158
    @Zachary Smith

    Wait, I see what you did there, did you just call her out as being herself a member of an invasive species?

    , @Reg Cæsar
    @Zachary Smith


    If Google can be trusted, she is Jewish and from Russia.
     
    Thus due to get her own Doodle someday!

    That is, if Google survives her.* Like Catholic sainthood and etching onto US currency, don't you have to be dead for a Doodle?

    *It might; Steve's still on AOL. Will he be the last?
    , @Bardon Kaldian
    @Zachary Smith

    I think that there is chance that Ms Muddy is not Slavic, whatever it means, but ....you know who.

    , @Jack D
    @Zachary Smith

    It's not at all strange. It's quite transparent that she is really speaking metaphorically about human invaders and not about trees or bugs and so does not need any scientific qualfications for her rant.

    The Left's recent "I love Science" position is like their former "I love Free Speech" position - they love it when it supports their worldview and political goals. If it does the opposite, then they have no use for it. Real actual science is hard, too hard for the intelligence level of the average Leftist jornolist. The mantle of "Science" is just another chic outfit that they wear for so long as it is fashionable and has nothing to do with actual science.

    Replies: @Clyde

    , @Peter Akuleyev
    @Zachary Smith

    Why is Mr. Sailer hyping this stuff? Is he a fan of Marina Bolotnikova’s beliefs? A relative?

    Really? Seems pretty clear that Mr. Sailer is just highlighting how insane the open borders crowd is getting. And from the open borders side there is a certain logic to deciding that any kind of "immigration" has to be fine. Too easy to use the "rabbits in Australia" story as a metaphor for how fast-breeding immigrants destroy local culture, and the open borders crowd doesn't want us to think about that.

    , @The Wild Geese Howard
    @Zachary Smith


    Really strange stuff.
     
    Nah, just sure signs of regime-sanctioned propaganda.
    , @Brutusale
    @Zachary Smith

    A quarter of her personal website is dedicated to Avi.

    https://www.marinabolotnikova.com/avi

    , @Adam Smith
    @Zachary Smith


    If Google can be trusted, she is Jewish and from Russia.
     
    Apparently, that is indeed the case...

    As Russian Jews, We Are Characters in Someone Else’s Story
    By Marina Bolotnikova

    , @Eric Novak
    @Zachary Smith

    Why shouldn’t Steve write about this? It’s “hyping”? What are you talking about? This article is published on a major media website.

  22. OT grist for the iSteve mill — The current top headline at UK Daily Mail — The American edition

    Elizabeth Holmes, 37, breaks down in tears during her fraud trial as she makes bombshell claim millionaire ex-boyfriend and Theranos co-founder Sunny Balwani, 56, abused her and forced her to have sex with him

    More grist. Prime legal advice for those being threatened with forced vaccinations, jabs, booster shots for new variants. Or be fired.
    https://www.coffeeandcovid.com/p/-coffee-and-covid-monday-october-4e1

    • Thanks: Ron Mexico, Adam Smith
    • Replies: @Pericles
    @Clyde

    Poor crocodile. I wonder if she cried for her scientist Ian Gibbons who killed himself when Theranos turned out to be made up?


    "... rather than a condolence message from Holmes, Rochelle instead received a phone call from someone at Theranos demanding that she immediately return any and all confidential Theranos property."

     

    Well, maybe not.

    https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2016/09/elizabeth-holmes-theranos-exclusive
  23. The most desired areas in Australian cities are they old ones filled with introduced northern hemisphere trees. The introduced trees are deciduous so provide thick canopies of shade in Australia’s brutally hot summers, but then shed their leaves in the autumn and let through the beautiful winter sun.

    The native eucalpytus trees provide less shade in summer, and being evergreen they keep their leaves on year round and block the winter sun.

    Most people also consider the northern hemisphere trees to be more beautiful. But newer suburbs usually have native trees.

    All commercially grown plants and and animals on Australian farms are introduced from somewhere else. You can buy kangaroo meat in the supermarket but they’re harvested from the wild.

    Introduced foxes and cats have devastated small native marsupials. Rabbits; canetoads; the list of introduced animals that harm the native ecosystem goes on and on.

    But here’s a funny thing. From roughly the 1970s onward there had developed a very heavy emphasis on trying to save native species, but in this century that has become of less interest to people.

    The more multi-racial Australia has become, the less people seem to care about endangered Australian wildlife. When Australia had a White Australia policy the official attitude was “we have to become a new unified nation and make ourselves at home in this strange land”. And when environmentalism came in that was added to this idea.

    But now there is no national identity except ‘diversity’ and the non-white populations are encouraged to keep their separate cultures. Anything too distinctly or traditionally Australian is associated with Australian history, which is too white. Native Australian animals mostly live out in the bush, which is also too white. What interests people now is city-based culture, and that culture is Global.

    • Replies: @HammerJack
    @Emblematic


    The most desired areas in Australian cities are they old ones filled with introduced northern hemisphere trees. The introduced trees are deciduous so provide thick canopies of shade in Australia’s brutally hot summers, but then shed their leaves in the autumn and let through the beautiful winter sun.
     
    Invasive species are very much like racism fables. "You guys got to do it a hundred years ago, so we get to do it now.* And you're not allowed to complain about it."

    _________________________________
    * Meaning Now and Forever

    , @Bert
    @Emblematic


    The more multi-racial Australia has become, the less people seem to care about endangered Australian wildlife. When Australia had a White Australia policy the official attitude was “we have to become a new unified nation and make ourselves at home in this strange land”. And when environmentalism came in that was added to this idea.

    But now there is no national identity except ‘diversity’ and the non-white populations are encouraged to keep their separate cultures. Anything too distinctly or traditionally Australian is associated with Australian history, which is too white. Native Australian animals mostly live out in the bush, which is also too white. What interests people now is city-based culture, and that culture is Global.
     
    Mass immigration, legal or not, is the death knell of environmental preservation. Only European Caucasians care about preserving natural ecosystems, and among them only the Germanic ethnicities care deeply.

    David Gelbaum, a Jewish investor and "environmentalist," thwarted a rational environmentalist response to mass immigration in the United States.

    But the biggest donation the Sierra Club ever received is the one that altered it forever. In 2004, the Los Angeles Times revealed a $100 million gift made by investor David Gelbaum. Unfortunately for environmentalists, Gelbaum’s money came with the string attached that the club never speak out against or try to limit immigration into the United States no matter how obvious it became that adding more people has severe ecological consequences.

    Gelbaum told Times reporter Kenneth Weiss that his instructions to then-Sierra Club Executive Director Carl Pope were that “if they ever came out anti-immigration, they would never get a dollar from me.” Pope eagerly agreed — but with devastating results.

    Not that long ago, the Sierra Club had willingly tackled immigration-related population issues. In her spring 1989 report, Dr. Judy Kunofsky, chair of the Sierra Club Population Committee, concluded that the club should work to “bring about the stabilization of the population first of the United States and then of the world.” That goal was abruptly abandoned after the club deposited Gelbaum’s check.
     
    https://www.noozhawk.com/article/021712_joe_guzzardi_sierra_club

    Replies: @Corvinus

    , @AnotherDad
    @Emblematic


    The more multi-racial Australia has become, the less people seem to care about endangered Australian wildlife. When Australia had a White Australia policy the official attitude was “we have to become a new unified nation and make ourselves at home in this strange land”. And when environmentalism came in that was added to this idea.

    But now there is no national identity except ‘diversity’ and the non-white populations are encouraged to keep their separate cultures. Anything too distinctly or traditionally Australian is associated with Australian history, which is too white. Native Australian animals mostly live out in the bush, which is also too white. What interests people now is city-based culture, and that culture is Global.
     
    Australia is a fairly unique and interesting place. Great for having a strong national identity. (And a great quality of life.)

    -- Unfortunately the War and Cold War and the English language steeped you in America and its toxic effluent since the rise of the minoritarians.

    -- A notable fact is that the people who squawk about "diversity" inevitably bring about the destruction of anything unique and special and everyone ends up with the same globhomo ooze.
    , @Rob McX
    @Emblematic

    I used to watch a show called Nothing to Declare about Australian customs staff and border control. Every episode, you'd see harmful illegal plants being brought into the country by Asians who always pretended they had no idea they were breaking the law.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

    , @SunBakedSuburb
    @Emblematic

    "The more multi-racial Australia has become, the less people seem to care about endangered Australian wildlife."

    IMO you limeys are too easy on your wildlife. Some of it needs to be endangered. The Funnel Web problem has not been dealt with adequately. Your Sheilas are entering into cross-species relationships at record rates because you Aussie limeys cannot protect them from wildlife gone amok. Your government has gone full totalitarian over a germ yet refuse to tackle the Funnel Web problem. The result? Las Vegas chapels see record business with your Sheilas and black American men.

    , @anon
    @Emblematic

    Muslims and Chinese are by far the worst invasive species of Australia

    Replies: @Patriot

  24. @Rob
    @Joe Stalin

    Cannot believe i did not think of this! Fantastico!

    Replies: @Rob McX

    Cannot believe i did not think of this!

    But you have coined the word chinlatto. You’ll live on as a footnote in 22nd-century editions of the OED.

  25. So let’s colonise Africa and India all over again.

  26. @Anon
    What do Native Americans have to say about this?

    (Actually, I don't really care.)

    Replies: @Bill P, @Tex, @Expletive Deleted

    Theyre much plenty mad where I live over the European green crab:

    https://amp.thenewstribune.com/news/state/washington/article256140892.html

    Maybe they’ll let me trap the things without having to buy a license. I bet they’re tasty.

    For some reason nobody is complaining about the eastern cottontails infesting our county, but they are much cuter than green crabs.

    • Replies: @Alec Leamas (working from home)
    @Bill P


    Theyre much plenty mad where I live over the European green crab:
     
    In the Northeast/Mid Atlantic fishermen use Green Crab halves as bait for Tautog. I think they're shipped into tackle shops from Maine. The Asian shore crab - also used as bait for Tautog - is pretty well established down here. You just turn over a rock at low tide on the back bay shores and you'll find dozens at a time.

    Maybe we should send you some Tautog to eat the crabs? What could go wrong?

    Replies: @Bill P

  27. Immigration is the Only Issue.

  28. As long as we’re going to stop demonizing invasive species…

    • LOL: Kylie
  29. All together now: “Armadillos will not replace us!”

  30. I know scientists can get pretty specialized, but this is the first I’ve heard of an invasion biologist. One could also say that Marina Bolotnikova is part of a biologist invasion. Maybe that’s why she chose this new “specialization”.

    It’s pretty crazy, though, this concept of basing a scientific opinion on the similar wording in your field to something political. In my opinion, that’s not the way to do science. If that’s the new way, though, as much more of a student of the physical sciences, I say we quit demonizing the noble gases too. Let me be the first of the invasion chemists to state categorically that I am not a Xenophobe..

    Here ya’ go – 2nd Peak Stupidity post EVAH!:

    [MORE]

    Regarding Mr. Fulford’s column, Dictionary.com notwithstanding, I have also been aware of the more widespread use of the term Xenophobe. I will tell you right now that I greatly resent being called this nasty term, not because I am sick to death of foreigners (which I am, BTW), but just due to my knowledge of basic chemistry!

    Have you people (NY Times, I guess?) no shame? At no point in my life have I lived in any kind of irrational fear of the element Xenon, or any other of the noble gases in column 8 of the periodic table! I will grant you that the EPA got me freaked out about the element Radon back in the ’80’s, but this was no irrational fear. It was quite rational, until I realized the EPA were full-of-it like all almost all other US Gov’t agencies.

    I am a great friend of Neon. I think it is one of the most vibrant of elements, and I welcome it to our cities and bars. I welcome to our society any element with a stable outer shell of electrons. We should all appreciate a diversity of molecular weights, and not be afraid of and bullying to any isotopes, even those that shed a few neutrons now and then. No, I don’t personally have a filled outer shell, but I have close friends who have Argon in between their windowpanes and aquaintances who suck on Helium quite often in order to talk like the Donald (no, the duck, get with the program, people).

    To be brutally honest with myself, yes, OK, I used to fear the Alkali metals. Yes, I said the A-word, OK. However, it was only due to my lingering post-traumatic disorder from my tossing of a hunk of sodium into the toilet in 10th grade. I am currently in a 12 step program for this and have made the appropriate apologies.

    In conclusion, I am shocked, shocked, I tell you, to be slandered in such a fashion, by people who wouldn’t know the Lanthanides from the Rare Earths in a hole in the ground.

    • Replies: @Intelligent Dasein
    @Achmed E. Newman


    It’s pretty crazy, though, this concept of basing a scientific opinion on the similar wording in your field to something political.
     
    It is my impression that many journalists these days are just grown-up versions of the kind of smart-aleck high school kids who think that sheer verbal dexterity and blunderbuss, combined with a smattering of de rigueur political sentiment, will so bowl over the teacher that they can write an 'A' paper on any subject, despite not knowing anything about it. Consequently, they rarely do any real research or any real work; and their hastily compiled essays, written in a pharmaceutical fog the night before due date, are a a type of sadomasochistic ritual by which they think to inflict their power upon a global peanut gallery. Once you learn to spot this kind of thing, you can see it popping up all over the place, like hunting for mushrooms in a forest.

    For a perfect (and perfectly nauseating) example, check out the thoroughly crappy obituary of Glenn Frey by Sarah Larson in The New Yorker. Seldom has anything been written from such utter depths of cluelessness by a person more obviously in love with the sound of her own voice. Take a glance to see what I mean; it will be educational.

    Replies: @usNthem, @Paleo Liberal, @Jack D, @Reg Cæsar, @Ron Mexico, @Achmed E. Newman, @Reg Cæsar

  31. Just remembered that there was a dude around these parts, or similar, who years ago was suggesting that the right _should_ cast the immigration problem in terms of an “invasive species” with the idea that that would appeal to the tree huggers…

    • Replies: @Rob McX
    @RonaldReagansLoveChildWithMadonna

    If the environmentalists were honest, they'd definitely be closing the borders and trying to reduce the human population everywhere. Immigration just postpones the immigrants' countries need to control population. Here's another Vox hypocrite - "I’m an environmental journalist, but I never write about overpopulation. Here’s why. "In practice, where you find concern over 'population', you very often find racism, xenophobia, or eugenics lurking in the wings".

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Wokechoke, @tyrone, @Paperback Writer

  32. Ideology aside (which is absolutely important, but already discussed and readily obvious), is this also a part of a wider attempt by the system to undo years of (sensible) environmentalist brainwashing and indoctrination, train the people to be even further an “indoors” creature as the ecosystem around them continues an onwards death spiral?

    Global Warming is both wrong and a lie (like earlier claims of Global Cooling, as the weather simply moves in cycles), but what’s absolutely true is the untold destruction of wildlife hierarchies and spaces for improperly managed development. This article is probably prepping GoodWhites and Loyal Leftists to accept further destruction rather than going all “Uppity Eco-Terrorist.” I guess much like how they took America’s Left and got them to join hands with the Alphabet Soup State.

    • Agree: TTSSYF
    • Replies: @Bert
    @Boomthorkell


    Global Warming is both wrong and a lie (like earlier claims of Global Cooling, as the weather simply moves in cycles), but what’s absolutely true is the untold destruction of wildlife hierarchies and spaces for improperly managed development.
     
    The conclusive evidence against uniquely dangerous Global Warming is the Holocene Climatic Optimum, inconveniently named by its discoverers, who worked in pre-Global-Warming days.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holocene_climatic_optimum#/media/File:Holocene_Temperature_Variations.png
    , @Bill Jones
    @Boomthorkell


    what’s absolutely true is the untold destruction of wildlife hierarchies and spaces for improperly managed development.
     
    And for that you can blame Whitie: without the drugs and food and crop technologies sent to the third world the global population would be 3 billion lighter.

    Replies: @Boomthorkell, @John Johnson

  33. They really are determined to double, triple and quadruple down on wokeness in whatever form, even if it wrecks civilization and apparently the environment along with it.

    • Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard
    @joe_mama


    They really are determined to double, triple and quadruple down on wokeness
     
    They're a death cult.

    The watermelons in charge are a death cult.

    They want to take all of us with them.
  34. But think about how many relatives back home in the Old Country Banu Subramaniam still has. Your concern for red wolves might inspire doubts about the wisdom of bringing over two, three, many more Subramaniams.

    Eh, if ‘Citizen’ Sailer wasn’t controlled oppo he would have pointed out that the whole Vox article is an attempt to justify Israel’s dispossession of the Palestinians.

  35. “They are these miraculous world builders,” says Ogden, who wrote an essay imagining the beavers not as invaders, but as a diaspora.

    The name “Ogden” is not written elsewhere in the excerpt, but I’m gonna guess she is a woman just like Sonia, Arian, Emma, and Marina herself. (Oops, their traditional pronouns ratted them out!)

    I get the feeling that there are too many women who somehow get into scientific fields who hate doing actual science so come up with political criticisms of their fields instead of doing scientific work. I suppose that could be even more so in the estrogen-laden field of biology,

    I respectfully suggest that Miss Bolotnikova get off her computer and do something more useful to her field, such as counting how many legs millipedes REALLY have. I don’t believe they have 1,000 legs on them any more than I believe that Global Climate Disruption™ claptrap.

    As an Invasive Russian, I’d have thought you’re better than this, Miss Bolotnikova.

    Remember, SCIENCE! “Good heavens, Miss Bolotnikova, you’re beautiful!”

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Achmed E. Newman


    I’m gonna guess [Ogden] is a woman just like Sonia, Arian, Emma, and Marina herself.
     
    Banu "Banita" Subramaniam is another woman biologist manquée. (Notice second "e" denoting feminine gender.) With the benefit of her biological training, Banita successfully established herself in on an ecological niche as a parasitic "science studies scholar" leeching off the public fisc at U. Mass. She leeches a subject called "Women, Gender, Sexuality Studies."

    ["Banita"] Subramaniam received her Bachelor of Science from the University of Madras, India, and her Ph.D. in Zoology and Genetics from Duke University. Originally trained as an evolutionary biologist and plant scientist, Subramaniam’s pioneering research in Feminist Science Studies has made her a leader in the field.
     
    https://www.umass.edu/wgss/member/banu-subramaniam
    , @Mr. Anon
    @Achmed E. Newman


    I get the feeling that there are too many women who somehow get into scientific fields who hate doing actual science so come up with political criticisms of their fields instead of doing scientific work.
     
    A lot of modern science and engineering consists of making up work for all the people who went to college and got degrees in the field but don't really like doing it. Hence the profusion of managers. Women are especially over-represented in this regard.

    Replies: @Rob McX

    , @Bert
    @Achmed E. Newman


    I respectfully suggest that Miss Bolotnikova get off her computer and do something more useful to her field, such as counting how many legs millipedes REALLY have. I don’t believe they have 1,000 legs on them any more than I believe that Global Climate Disruption™ claptrap.

    As an Invasive Russian, I’d have thought you’re better than this, Miss Bolotnikova.

     

    First, Bolotnikova is a journalist, not an ecologist. She has no credential by which to opine on ecosystem destruction by an invasive species, of which there are many examples.

    Second, Bolotnikova identifies as a Jew, not as a Russian. See my earlier comment for documentation.

    Replies: @Rosie

    , @Reg Cæsar
    @Achmed E. Newman


    The name “Ogden” is not written elsewhere in the excerpt, but I’m gonna guess she is a woman...
     
    https://www.azquotes.com/picture-quotes/quote-women-would-rather-be-right-than-reasonable-ogden-nash-77-37-90.jpg

    Replies: @John Johnson, @Rosie

  36. @Jack D
    OT - Jussie Smollett's trial started today.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2021/11/29/arts/television/jussie-smollett-trial.html?searchResultPosition=1

    Story appears on p.20 of the print newspaper, so buried as deeply as possible.

    Frankly, unzites are not eager to see this highlighted either because it conflicts with their narrative that Smollett was let go scot free.


    He was, at first, but then a special prosecutor was appointed. The way things work in corrupt big cities is that things like this have to be taken out of local hands. In Philly, a corrupt local union official was just convicted by a Federal jury - not in a million years would anyone from the city touch this case because they were all in on his corruption. After he was convicted, the mayor praised him. His brother sits on the PA Supreme Ct.

    Replies: @HammerJack, @JMcG, @Brutusale, @J.Ross

    Also OT, and without a NYT link. The Biden NLRB has thrown out the results of the Amazon unionization vote in Alabama.

    71% of workers had voted against union representation, which means according to “democrat labor theory” that 71% of workers are wrong.

    Democracy is currently defined as something we have to do over and over again until we get the results we want.

    The NLRB ruled that Amazon’s actions throughout the mail-in election—including its decision to install a U.S. Postal Service collection box that could have confused employees—were grounds to nullify the results and hold the vote again.

    Yes, you read that right. Stuart Appelbaum tweeted that Postal Service boxes (being red white and blue) are “coded racist appeals.”

    [MORE]

    The NLRB is a federal government agency in charge of enforcing U.S. labor law in collective bargaining and worker disputes. With Democrats holding a majority of the five-person board, labor researchers expect it to side with workers more regularly than during former the administration of former President Donald Trump, a Republican.

    That word should be unions.

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/amazon-alabama-workers-to-hold-new-election-federal-labor-official-rules-11638218185

  37. @Emblematic
    The most desired areas in Australian cities are they old ones filled with introduced northern hemisphere trees. The introduced trees are deciduous so provide thick canopies of shade in Australia's brutally hot summers, but then shed their leaves in the autumn and let through the beautiful winter sun.

    The native eucalpytus trees provide less shade in summer, and being evergreen they keep their leaves on year round and block the winter sun.

    Most people also consider the northern hemisphere trees to be more beautiful. But newer suburbs usually have native trees.

    All commercially grown plants and and animals on Australian farms are introduced from somewhere else. You can buy kangaroo meat in the supermarket but they're harvested from the wild.

    Introduced foxes and cats have devastated small native marsupials. Rabbits; canetoads; the list of introduced animals that harm the native ecosystem goes on and on.

    But here's a funny thing. From roughly the 1970s onward there had developed a very heavy emphasis on trying to save native species, but in this century that has become of less interest to people.

    The more multi-racial Australia has become, the less people seem to care about endangered Australian wildlife. When Australia had a White Australia policy the official attitude was "we have to become a new unified nation and make ourselves at home in this strange land". And when environmentalism came in that was added to this idea.

    But now there is no national identity except 'diversity' and the non-white populations are encouraged to keep their separate cultures. Anything too distinctly or traditionally Australian is associated with Australian history, which is too white. Native Australian animals mostly live out in the bush, which is also too white. What interests people now is city-based culture, and that culture is Global.

    Replies: @HammerJack, @Bert, @AnotherDad, @Rob McX, @SunBakedSuburb, @anon

    The most desired areas in Australian cities are they old ones filled with introduced northern hemisphere trees. The introduced trees are deciduous so provide thick canopies of shade in Australia’s brutally hot summers, but then shed their leaves in the autumn and let through the beautiful winter sun.

    Invasive species are very much like racism fables. “You guys got to do it a hundred years ago, so we get to do it now.* And you’re not allowed to complain about it.”

    _________________________________
    * Meaning Now and Forever

  38. This is a Harvard journalist????? What a friggin idiot.

    Someone please plant some Kudzu outside her house and drop off some Norway rats. Then she can tell us how great it is to have non-native species around.

    Idiot.

    • Agree: Old Prude
    • Replies: @Sick 'n Tired
    @John Johnson

    I live in S. Florida, invasive species here are pythons/boa constrictors in the Everglades eating all the indigenous animals like alligators and raccoons, iguanas everywhere, lionfish on our reefs eating everything that comes near them, and parrots/exotic birds that escaped when the aviary at the zoo blew down during hurricane Andrew. Not to mention various other bugs, lizards, and fish not native to the area and have no natural predators to keep their populations in control.

    Replies: @Alden

    , @Boy the way Glenn Miller played
    @John Johnson


    Someone please plant some Kudzu outside her house and drop off some Norway rats. Then she can tell us how great it is to have non-native species around.
     
    Nah. Send her some multiflora rose, tearthumb vine, and some imported fire ants along with some Formosa termites.

    Idiot.
  39. @RonaldReagansLoveChildWithMadonna
    Just remembered that there was a dude around these parts, or similar, who years ago was suggesting that the right _should_ cast the immigration problem in terms of an "invasive species" with the idea that that would appeal to the tree huggers...

    Replies: @Rob McX

    If the environmentalists were honest, they’d definitely be closing the borders and trying to reduce the human population everywhere. Immigration just postpones the immigrants’ countries need to control population. Here’s another Vox hypocrite – “I’m an environmental journalist, but I never write about overpopulation. Here’s why. “In practice, where you find concern over ‘population’, you very often find racism, xenophobia, or eugenics lurking in the wings”.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Rob McX

    Well, why do you think that 'The World's Most Important Graph' only appears on this blog?

    , @Wokechoke
    @Rob McX

    There's a limit to water. Even Malthus Critics know this.

    Replies: @Captain Tripps, @RonaldReagansLoveChildWithMadonna2

    , @tyrone
    @Rob McX

    If you are "honest" you get canceled .....human population? ......don't worry we are just at the beginning of the global bio-war on the human population ....if covid and the vax don't do the trick Mr. Bill has already signaled that small pox may/ is coming ......prediction: the population at the end of this century will be a fraction of what it is today.........OH NO! I'm a conspiracy theorist.

    , @Paperback Writer
    @Rob McX

    A lot of the old style environmentalists were race realists and have been retroactively canceled.

  40. Anonymous[271] • Disclaimer says:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    “They are these miraculous world builders,” says Ogden, who wrote an essay imagining the beavers not as invaders, but as a diaspora.
     
    The name "Ogden" is not written elsewhere in the excerpt, but I'm gonna guess she is a woman just like Sonia, Arian, Emma, and Marina herself. (Oops, their traditional pronouns ratted them out!)

    I get the feeling that there are too many women who somehow get into scientific fields who hate doing actual science so come up with political criticisms of their fields instead of doing scientific work. I suppose that could be even more so in the estrogen-laden field of biology,

    I respectfully suggest that Miss Bolotnikova get off her computer and do something more useful to her field, such as counting how many legs millipedes REALLY have. I don't believe they have 1,000 legs on them any more than I believe that Global Climate Disruption™ claptrap.

    As an Invasive Russian, I'd have thought you're better than this, Miss Bolotnikova.

    Remember, SCIENCE! "Good heavens, Miss Bolotnikova, you're beautiful!"

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Mr. Anon, @Bert, @Reg Cæsar

    I’m gonna guess [Ogden] is a woman just like Sonia, Arian, Emma, and Marina herself.

    Banu “Banita” Subramaniam is another woman biologist manquée. (Notice second “e” denoting feminine gender.) With the benefit of her biological training, Banita successfully established herself in on an ecological niche as a parasitic “science studies scholar” leeching off the public fisc at U. Mass. She leeches a subject called “Women, Gender, Sexuality Studies.”

    [“Banita”] Subramaniam received her Bachelor of Science from the University of Madras, India, and her Ph.D. in Zoology and Genetics from Duke University. Originally trained as an evolutionary biologist and plant scientist, Subramaniam’s pioneering research in Feminist Science Studies has made her a leader in the field.

    https://www.umass.edu/wgss/member/banu-subramaniam

  41. Marina Bolotnikova — This nitwit is way off base. The invasive species I hear about are insects that hitchhike into America via cargo shipments. Like so called murder hornets. Horticultural diseases that come in from Asia. Exotic reptiles and exotic pets that are released by their bored owners, who are done with them. Intentional releases, such as snake head fish, that Viets and NE Asians like fishing for. I have seen 4ft long snake head fish.

    I have never heard global warming being blamed for invasive species. Climate change panic is so done anyways. No average Joe cares about a climate something taking place some something 35 years in the maybe future. The globalist grifters have found the Covid_CCP panic to be a much more effective fear factor. It gets the sheeple herded much more effectively. Lots faster too!

    • Agree: Simon in London
    • Replies: @TWS
    @Clyde

    Climate change causes heart problems in newborns. Stay with the times.

    Replies: @tyrone

    , @Anon
    @Clyde


    The globalist grifters have found the Covid_CCP panic to be a much more effective fear factor. It gets the sheeple herded much more effectively. Lots faster too!
     
    The principal function of these scare tactics is to divert people’s attention away from the invasion of their countries (“immigration”).

    Replies: @Chester

  42. It’s time to stop demonizing “invasive” species

    Climate change is forcing some animals to move. Don’t call them “invasives.”

    By Marina Bolotnikova

    Marina Bolotnikova, eh? Sounds like one of those evil Russians. Haven’t the Democrats told us we should just ignore anything said by a Russian? You wouldn’t want to be a willing stooge of Vlad the Colluder, would you?

    Let’s weaponize this trope against them. Russian? Uh-uh, not buying. We don’t listen to those nefarious Slavic types. What are you? One of those Russkie-lovers? Adam Schiff warned us about your kind.

    Now that I think about it ……………. Adam Schiff ………….. sounds a bit …….. Russian, doesn’t it?

    • Replies: @Inquiring Mind
    @Mr. Anon

    Better from Russia than . . . Kazakhstan?

    Next thing you know, she "shops" at T J Maxx?

  43. @Achmed E. Newman

    “They are these miraculous world builders,” says Ogden, who wrote an essay imagining the beavers not as invaders, but as a diaspora.
     
    The name "Ogden" is not written elsewhere in the excerpt, but I'm gonna guess she is a woman just like Sonia, Arian, Emma, and Marina herself. (Oops, their traditional pronouns ratted them out!)

    I get the feeling that there are too many women who somehow get into scientific fields who hate doing actual science so come up with political criticisms of their fields instead of doing scientific work. I suppose that could be even more so in the estrogen-laden field of biology,

    I respectfully suggest that Miss Bolotnikova get off her computer and do something more useful to her field, such as counting how many legs millipedes REALLY have. I don't believe they have 1,000 legs on them any more than I believe that Global Climate Disruption™ claptrap.

    As an Invasive Russian, I'd have thought you're better than this, Miss Bolotnikova.

    Remember, SCIENCE! "Good heavens, Miss Bolotnikova, you're beautiful!"

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Mr. Anon, @Bert, @Reg Cæsar

    I get the feeling that there are too many women who somehow get into scientific fields who hate doing actual science so come up with political criticisms of their fields instead of doing scientific work.

    A lot of modern science and engineering consists of making up work for all the people who went to college and got degrees in the field but don’t really like doing it. Hence the profusion of managers. Women are especially over-represented in this regard.

    • Replies: @Rob McX
    @Mr. Anon


    A lot of modern science and engineering consists of making up work for all the people who went to college and got degrees in the field but don’t really like doing it.
     
    Or can't do it. The softest gig of all is writing woke critiques of whatever field they're supposed to be working in. Can't make it as an engineer/physicist/biologist? Write articles about how women are discriminated in engineering/physics/biology.
  44. Arian Wallach is an asshole.

    Speaking of assholes, find below:

    Shootin’ asshole feral hogs in Texas…

    Electrofishing asshole invasive carp of the Mississippi…

    Killing the asshole beavers of Argentina…

    • Replies: @Mike_from_SGV
    @Zoos

    That's impressive shooting from a moving/vibrating copter.

    Replies: @Joe Stalin, @Muggles

  45. @Clyde
    OT grist for the iSteve mill --- The current top headline at UK Daily Mail -- The American edition

    Elizabeth Holmes, 37, breaks down in tears during her fraud trial as she makes bombshell claim millionaire ex-boyfriend and Theranos co-founder Sunny Balwani, 56, abused her and forced her to have sex with him
     
    More grist. Prime legal advice for those being threatened with forced vaccinations, jabs, booster shots for new variants. Or be fired.
    https://www.coffeeandcovid.com/p/-coffee-and-covid-monday-october-4e1

    Replies: @Pericles

    Poor crocodile. I wonder if she cried for her scientist Ian Gibbons who killed himself when Theranos turned out to be made up?

    “… rather than a condolence message from Holmes, Rochelle instead received a phone call from someone at Theranos demanding that she immediately return any and all confidential Theranos property.”

    Well, maybe not.

    https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2016/09/elizabeth-holmes-theranos-exclusive

  46. Anonymous[365] • Disclaimer says:

    The stark truth and reality of ‘invasive species’ is blatantly obvious to any English person who happens to possess a back yard.
    Grey squirrels – in massive numbers – infest not only the English countryside but are found in all suburban and indeed deeply urban environments. Their numbers are legion.

    Apparently, before year 1870 or so they simply *did not exist* anywhere on the British Isles, and never had done. A crank of a Victorian species fetishist let loose a few breeding pairs or so, for ‘variety’, and this is the end result.

    The other side of the story is that the indigenous red squirrel, an altogether cuter, milder, more gentle and timid animal, not possessing the rat like proclivities of the grey, has more or less vanished from England.

    There’s a moral here, surely.

    • Replies: @BigJimSportCamper
    @Anonymous

    Same thing happened in the US in the 1800's. Some Anglophile twit brought over the English Starling and English House Sparrow, who have spread like the plague across the whole continent, their aggressive behavior destructive to native songbirds. Disaster.

    , @dearieme
    @Anonymous

    Mind you, there are people who suspect that the lovely red squirrel was originally introduced to Britain by humans. As were (in all probability) rabbits, pheasants, fallow deer, ...

    , @Right_On
    @Anonymous

    I haven't seen a red squirrel in England since I was a boy.

    First they came for Squirrel Nutkin, and I did not speak out—
    Because I was not a squirrel.

    Then they came for Jemima Puddle-Duck, and I did not speak out—
    . . .

    . . .

    . . .

    Replies: @Obstinate Cymric

  47. @Joe Stalin
    We need to start using the word "transfection" to describe the deliberate introduction of Alien DNA into a country.

    "Brandon is transfecting the USA by deliberately introducing hostile DNA via open barriers."

    Replies: @Rob, @Mr. Anon, @Ron Mexico

    We need to start using the word “transfection” to describe the deliberate introduction of Alien DNA into a country.

    “Brandon is transfecting the USA by deliberately introducing hostile DNA via open barriers.”

    No, transfection is good! That’s what the mRNA and VVDNA vaccines do. They hijack your bodies biochemical machinery to produce spike proteins that transfect the cells (i.e. stick out of the cell walls).

    Just think of immigrants as human spike-proteins, enriching the body-politic with all that spike-protein vibrancy!

    • LOL: Clyde
  48. @Zachary Smith
    Really strange stuff. The young woman is a recent graduate of Harvard with a BA in Slavic Languages, etc. If Google can be trusted, she is Jewish and from Russia.

    No published books I could find, and probably no serious scholarly articles either. Her twitter site hypes a book about Invasives, and she made a remark there of her desire to write about feral hogs.

    Would she love the Burmese pythons in Florida? Does she embrace black rats? Kudzu? The brown snakes of Guam? The rabbits of Australia? Fire ants are moving North. Will the Harvard graduate welcome those fire ants when they arrive at wherever she lives?

    Why is Mr. Sailer hyping this stuff? Is he a fan of Marina Bolotnikova's beliefs? A relative?

    Nothing at all is clear here.

    I'm on the other side of this issue, having recently spent too many thousands of dollars removing dead Ash trees here. So I'm not going to play kissy-face with the invasive Emerald Ash Borer.

    Personally I believe Ms. Bolotnikova should stick with topics she better understands - Slavic Languages, maybe.

    Replies: @Alfa158, @Reg Cæsar, @Bardon Kaldian, @Jack D, @Peter Akuleyev, @The Wild Geese Howard, @Brutusale, @Adam Smith, @Eric Novak

    Wait, I see what you did there, did you just call her out as being herself a member of an invasive species?

  49. Re climate change & animals, I see they are re-characterising ‘range expansion’ as ‘climate refugees’.

    Armadillos aren’t moving north because north is now warm enough for armadillos, no they are fleeing the south! So there must be fewer armadillos left in the now-too-warm south, right?

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Simon in London

    The Armadillo

    The armadillo lives inside
    A corrugated plated hide.
    Below the border this useful creature
    Of tidy kitchens is a feature,
    For housewives use an armadillo
    To scour their pots, instead of Brillo.

    Ogden Nash

  50. This, by the way, is what happens when children read Harry Potter.

    • Replies: @Tex
    @Pericles

    The look that says, "I don't give a crap who you vote for, I got this!"

    Replies: @Intelligent Dasein

    , @Jack D
    @Pericles

    One theory is that Zemmour is leaking these stories about himself to make him appear more virile and appealing to voters. Women especially find men who are wanted by other women as appealing (and shun men who are shunned by other women).

    Otherwise Zemmour is rather repulsive looking. He is the rare Jew who actually looks like a Nazi caricature of a Jew.

    A Jew who is the head of the right wing - an Unzite's head could explode at the thought.

    Replies: @Mr. Anon, @Boomthorkell, @IHTG, @Reg Cæsar, @Ghost of Bull Moose

  51. Anonymous[410] • Disclaimer says:

    ‘Species’ are inherently discriminatory and exclusionary. They are also unabashedly inherently extremely opposed to each, by nature and design.

    These are all the very things that really, really rile the modern left.

    So, the left is ‘anti species’ and will probably rule, at some time or another, that ‘species does not exist’.

    Come to to think of it, the modern, Economist whipped, woke left is against life and nature, and therefore planet Earth – and ultimately they are against Life, the Universe and Everything.

    • Replies: @Intelligent Dasein
    @Anonymous


    So, the left is ‘anti species’ and will probably rule, at some time or another, that ‘species does not exist’.
     
    Then they would be true Darwinians. Think about that next time you are tempted to use evolutionary theory as a bolster for race-realism.

    Replies: @Anonymous

  52. @Rob McX
    @RonaldReagansLoveChildWithMadonna

    If the environmentalists were honest, they'd definitely be closing the borders and trying to reduce the human population everywhere. Immigration just postpones the immigrants' countries need to control population. Here's another Vox hypocrite - "I’m an environmental journalist, but I never write about overpopulation. Here’s why. "In practice, where you find concern over 'population', you very often find racism, xenophobia, or eugenics lurking in the wings".

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Wokechoke, @tyrone, @Paperback Writer

    Well, why do you think that ‘The World’s Most Important Graph’ only appears on this blog?

  53. @Anonymous
    This article has to be trolling. Mentioning Tierra del Fuego, the setting of "Who Will Remember the People?," Jean Raspail's novel about the extinction of an indigenous tribe there (and including a cameo by Charles Darwin), seems too on the nose.

    Replies: @Bert

    Jews never troll. They are dead serious and relentless. They never miss an angle by which they could undermine European Caucasians.

    Letter to the Editor [of the Harvard Crimson]
    By Marina N. Bolotnikova
    October 6, 2014
    To the editor:

    As a Jew with a deep bond with the state of Israel, I was saddened and ashamed to watch as the Israeli army killed hundreds of Palestinian civilians in the Gaza Strip this summer, and even more so to witness the reactions of many in the Harvard community as students publicly grieved these injustices. ……
    I experienced a great deal of doubt before deciding to write this letter for fear of offending members of the Jewish community. It shouldn’t have to be this way. I am not among a minority but a silent majority of progressive Jews growing increasingly uneasy with Israel’s administration.

    https://www.thecrimson.com/article/2014/10/6/letter-israel-palestine-bolotnikova/

    Bolotnikova graduated in journalism from Harvard University.

    • Replies: @slumber_j
    @Bert


    Bolotnikova graduated in journalism from Harvard University.
     
    Harvard doesn't offer a journalism major--or as they put it in that way of theirs, "field of concentration." People who want to go into journalism study something else and work on the Crimson, the school paper. I assume that's what she did.

    Replies: @Bert

    , @Anon
    @Bert


    As a Jew with a deep bond with the state of Israel, I was saddened and ashamed to watch as the Israeli army killed hundreds of Palestinian civilians in the Gaza Strip this summer, and even more so to witness the reactions of many in the Harvard community
     
    She deserves credit for taking a principled stand against the Jews’ invasion of Palestine.
  54. @Bragadocious
    Speaking of invasive species, at midnight tonight Barbados is "ditching" the British monarchy (BBC's word) in favor of a republican government.

    Now, one might say, who cares. But this is a big deal for the BBC--they're providing live coverage! The symbolism is profound. Anyone who rejects their monarchy, including an island about the size of three Costcos, probably goes on a list. Ask South Africa about how things went for them when they kicked the queen out in 1960.

    Replies: @Redneck farmer, @TyRade, @AnotherDad, @Jack D

    Rhodesia. And it didn’t go well.
    “We are not Europeans. We are White Africans.”

  55. @Achmed E. Newman

    “They are these miraculous world builders,” says Ogden, who wrote an essay imagining the beavers not as invaders, but as a diaspora.
     
    The name "Ogden" is not written elsewhere in the excerpt, but I'm gonna guess she is a woman just like Sonia, Arian, Emma, and Marina herself. (Oops, their traditional pronouns ratted them out!)

    I get the feeling that there are too many women who somehow get into scientific fields who hate doing actual science so come up with political criticisms of their fields instead of doing scientific work. I suppose that could be even more so in the estrogen-laden field of biology,

    I respectfully suggest that Miss Bolotnikova get off her computer and do something more useful to her field, such as counting how many legs millipedes REALLY have. I don't believe they have 1,000 legs on them any more than I believe that Global Climate Disruption™ claptrap.

    As an Invasive Russian, I'd have thought you're better than this, Miss Bolotnikova.

    Remember, SCIENCE! "Good heavens, Miss Bolotnikova, you're beautiful!"

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Mr. Anon, @Bert, @Reg Cæsar

    I respectfully suggest that Miss Bolotnikova get off her computer and do something more useful to her field, such as counting how many legs millipedes REALLY have. I don’t believe they have 1,000 legs on them any more than I believe that Global Climate Disruption™ claptrap.

    As an Invasive Russian, I’d have thought you’re better than this, Miss Bolotnikova.

    First, Bolotnikova is a journalist, not an ecologist. She has no credential by which to opine on ecosystem destruction by an invasive species, of which there are many examples.

    Second, Bolotnikova identifies as a Jew, not as a Russian. See my earlier comment for documentation.

    • Replies: @Rosie
    @Bert


    Second, Bolotnikova identifies as a Jew, not as a Russian. See my earlier comment for documentation.
     
    Remember, Jewish women do as they do because they are women. Jewish men do as they do because they are Jews.

    Always.

    Replies: @Boomthorkell, @Rob

  56. @AndrewR
    The US isn't "traditionally white," you stupid boomer sodomite

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    The US isn’t “traditionally white,”

    Most of the US are. A few of the steamier states are the exception.

    you stupid boomer sodomite

    Come back when you sober up and apologize to Steve. Otherwise, we’ll take this as a red flag to the real AndrewR.

    There were two (at least two) Andrews posting comments here, and it was difficult to keep them apart. One of them did come out as a sodomite.

    • LOL: TWS
  57. @gabriel alberton

    In the 21st century, there’s no such thing as an undisrupted ecosystem, and this will only become truer as climate change and habitat loss accelerate. It’s crucial that we get this right.
     
    Isn't it the case that, by this logic, nothing should be done against climate change and habitat loss? Why you resist change, you bigot?
    And I'm sure that chick is all for the "compassionate conservation'' of large, moist, foul-smelling P. americana thoughout her own domicile...

    https://www.mypmp.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/Cockroach-Credit-iStockphoto.jpg

    Replies: @the one they call Desanex, @MEH 0910

    When la cucaracha approaches,
    Let’s say “Buenos dias” to roaches!
    No, wait, that’s not right.
    Since they come out at night,
    Perhaps we should say “Buenos noches.”

  58. @Zachary Smith
    Really strange stuff. The young woman is a recent graduate of Harvard with a BA in Slavic Languages, etc. If Google can be trusted, she is Jewish and from Russia.

    No published books I could find, and probably no serious scholarly articles either. Her twitter site hypes a book about Invasives, and she made a remark there of her desire to write about feral hogs.

    Would she love the Burmese pythons in Florida? Does she embrace black rats? Kudzu? The brown snakes of Guam? The rabbits of Australia? Fire ants are moving North. Will the Harvard graduate welcome those fire ants when they arrive at wherever she lives?

    Why is Mr. Sailer hyping this stuff? Is he a fan of Marina Bolotnikova's beliefs? A relative?

    Nothing at all is clear here.

    I'm on the other side of this issue, having recently spent too many thousands of dollars removing dead Ash trees here. So I'm not going to play kissy-face with the invasive Emerald Ash Borer.

    Personally I believe Ms. Bolotnikova should stick with topics she better understands - Slavic Languages, maybe.

    Replies: @Alfa158, @Reg Cæsar, @Bardon Kaldian, @Jack D, @Peter Akuleyev, @The Wild Geese Howard, @Brutusale, @Adam Smith, @Eric Novak

    If Google can be trusted, she is Jewish and from Russia.

    Thus due to get her own Doodle someday!

    That is, if Google survives her.* Like Catholic sainthood and etching onto US currency, don’t you have to be dead for a Doodle?

    *It might; Steve’s still on AOL. Will he be the last?

  59. @Achmed E. Newman

    “They are these miraculous world builders,” says Ogden, who wrote an essay imagining the beavers not as invaders, but as a diaspora.
     
    The name "Ogden" is not written elsewhere in the excerpt, but I'm gonna guess she is a woman just like Sonia, Arian, Emma, and Marina herself. (Oops, their traditional pronouns ratted them out!)

    I get the feeling that there are too many women who somehow get into scientific fields who hate doing actual science so come up with political criticisms of their fields instead of doing scientific work. I suppose that could be even more so in the estrogen-laden field of biology,

    I respectfully suggest that Miss Bolotnikova get off her computer and do something more useful to her field, such as counting how many legs millipedes REALLY have. I don't believe they have 1,000 legs on them any more than I believe that Global Climate Disruption™ claptrap.

    As an Invasive Russian, I'd have thought you're better than this, Miss Bolotnikova.

    Remember, SCIENCE! "Good heavens, Miss Bolotnikova, you're beautiful!"

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Mr. Anon, @Bert, @Reg Cæsar

    The name “Ogden” is not written elsewhere in the excerpt, but I’m gonna guess she is a woman…

    • Replies: @John Johnson
    @Reg Cæsar

    4 words you never say to your wife:

    I told you so.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    , @Rosie
    @Reg Cæsar

    It's time for your daily dose of objective reality:

    https://www.caltech.edu/about/news/testosterone-makes-men-less-likely-question-their-impulses-55864

    Down the hatch, reg.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

  60. Why do immigrants with an internal desire to colonise and displace the existing population keep identifying with invasive species?

    Why do people with cluster b personality traits identify with Satan?

  61. @Simon in London
    Re climate change & animals, I see they are re-characterising 'range expansion' as 'climate refugees'.

    Armadillos aren't moving north because north is now warm enough for armadillos, no they are fleeing the south! So there must be fewer armadillos left in the now-too-warm south, right?

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    The Armadillo

    The armadillo lives inside
    A corrugated plated hide.
    Below the border this useful creature
    Of tidy kitchens is a feature,
    For housewives use an armadillo
    To scour their pots, instead of Brillo.

    Ogden Nash

  62. Running out of angles, I see…

  63. @Emblematic
    The most desired areas in Australian cities are they old ones filled with introduced northern hemisphere trees. The introduced trees are deciduous so provide thick canopies of shade in Australia's brutally hot summers, but then shed their leaves in the autumn and let through the beautiful winter sun.

    The native eucalpytus trees provide less shade in summer, and being evergreen they keep their leaves on year round and block the winter sun.

    Most people also consider the northern hemisphere trees to be more beautiful. But newer suburbs usually have native trees.

    All commercially grown plants and and animals on Australian farms are introduced from somewhere else. You can buy kangaroo meat in the supermarket but they're harvested from the wild.

    Introduced foxes and cats have devastated small native marsupials. Rabbits; canetoads; the list of introduced animals that harm the native ecosystem goes on and on.

    But here's a funny thing. From roughly the 1970s onward there had developed a very heavy emphasis on trying to save native species, but in this century that has become of less interest to people.

    The more multi-racial Australia has become, the less people seem to care about endangered Australian wildlife. When Australia had a White Australia policy the official attitude was "we have to become a new unified nation and make ourselves at home in this strange land". And when environmentalism came in that was added to this idea.

    But now there is no national identity except 'diversity' and the non-white populations are encouraged to keep their separate cultures. Anything too distinctly or traditionally Australian is associated with Australian history, which is too white. Native Australian animals mostly live out in the bush, which is also too white. What interests people now is city-based culture, and that culture is Global.

    Replies: @HammerJack, @Bert, @AnotherDad, @Rob McX, @SunBakedSuburb, @anon

    The more multi-racial Australia has become, the less people seem to care about endangered Australian wildlife. When Australia had a White Australia policy the official attitude was “we have to become a new unified nation and make ourselves at home in this strange land”. And when environmentalism came in that was added to this idea.

    But now there is no national identity except ‘diversity’ and the non-white populations are encouraged to keep their separate cultures. Anything too distinctly or traditionally Australian is associated with Australian history, which is too white. Native Australian animals mostly live out in the bush, which is also too white. What interests people now is city-based culture, and that culture is Global.

    Mass immigration, legal or not, is the death knell of environmental preservation. Only European Caucasians care about preserving natural ecosystems, and among them only the Germanic ethnicities care deeply.

    David Gelbaum, a Jewish investor and “environmentalist,” thwarted a rational environmentalist response to mass immigration in the United States.

    But the biggest donation the Sierra Club ever received is the one that altered it forever. In 2004, the Los Angeles Times revealed a \$100 million gift made by investor David Gelbaum. Unfortunately for environmentalists, Gelbaum’s money came with the string attached that the club never speak out against or try to limit immigration into the United States no matter how obvious it became that adding more people has severe ecological consequences.

    Gelbaum told Times reporter Kenneth Weiss that his instructions to then-Sierra Club Executive Director Carl Pope were that “if they ever came out anti-immigration, they would never get a dollar from me.” Pope eagerly agreed — but with devastating results.

    Not that long ago, the Sierra Club had willingly tackled immigration-related population issues. In her spring 1989 report, Dr. Judy Kunofsky, chair of the Sierra Club Population Committee, concluded that the club should work to “bring about the stabilization of the population first of the United States and then of the world.” That goal was abruptly abandoned after the club deposited Gelbaum’s check.

    https://www.noozhawk.com/article/021712_joe_guzzardi_sierra_club

    • Replies: @Corvinus
    @Bert

    “Only European Caucasians care about preserving natural ecosystems, and among them only the Germanic ethnicities care deeply.”

    That is patently false.

    https://www.unep.org/news-and-stories/story/indigenous-peoples-and-nature-they-protect

    Indigenous peoples have conserved biodiversity for millennia. They created thousands of crop varieties, livestock breeds, and unique landscapes. These practices continue today. Remember, indigenous tribes generally did not have a concept of land ownership and exploitation like the Europeans, and they were the original conservationists.

    https://www.umanitoba.ca/institutes/natural_resources/canadaresearchchair/EA2000.pdf

    Replies: @Alec Leamas (working from home), @Bert, @Clyde, @Patriot, @TWS

  64. @Bragadocious
    Speaking of invasive species, at midnight tonight Barbados is "ditching" the British monarchy (BBC's word) in favor of a republican government.

    Now, one might say, who cares. But this is a big deal for the BBC--they're providing live coverage! The symbolism is profound. Anyone who rejects their monarchy, including an island about the size of three Costcos, probably goes on a list. Ask South Africa about how things went for them when they kicked the queen out in 1960.

    Replies: @Redneck farmer, @TyRade, @AnotherDad, @Jack D

    I think Barbados will join S Africa, and just about every former colony ditching even the symbolism of Her Majesty (aka ‘civilisation’) in generations of seller’s remorse. It may be a tactical move, of course – fleeing the monarchy while the tree-hugger, slavery-knee-taker and all round ar\$e Charles assumed the throne; who would not contemplate distancing oneself from that dipstick?

    • Replies: @Bragadocious
    @TyRade

    If I understand you correctly, you're saying Barbados will regret ditching the monarchy?

    To that, all I can say is, if they do regret it, it will be because the Brits will now seek to make their lives a living hell.

    The British press is already dumping various slanders on the Bajans, saying they're now a Chinese colony, because Beijing donated some Covid jabs and paved a couple of roads.

    This is what the Brits do. They did it to America, did it to South Africa, and now they're doing it to little Barbados.

    Remember Glenn Close from Fatal Attraction?

    , @Alden
    @TyRade

    My cynical opinion about Barbados splitting from the common wealth.

    The Barbados PTB were approached by the City Of London Saudi Kuwait Oman Dubai prince of Lichtenstein Satan& Soros LLC some major financial banking entity to split from the Commonwealth and become a major off shore banking refuge for the wealthiest people in the world.

    Replies: @Lurker

    , @Thea
    @TyRade

    About 10 years ago a survey in Jamaica revealed that most Jamaicans felt they were better off as a member of the English Commonwealth and regretted the end of British rule. Buyers’ remorse. Nothing came of it.

    , @Anonymous
    @TyRade

    Lots of causes of friction between Britain and its Caribbean colonies. Criminal justice is a big one, with the British being much more liberal, especially regarding the death penalty, which they won't allow these countries to carry out. The British also have much more liberal attitudes towards drugs, homosexuality and similar issues, and their attempts to impose these values on the Caribbean are not popular.

    Countering this, there is generally a desire not to do anything that might jeopardize migration to Britain. However this is mostly of interest to the older generation. Younger people generally want to go to the US, not Britain.

  65. Bolotnikova’s political position regarding animals is to hell with natural animals in their native habitat but protect domesticated animals at all hazards. Pathetically typical urbanite logic.

    • Disagree: Corvinus
    • Thanks: ic1000
  66. “They are these miraculous world builders,” says Ogden, who wrote an essay imagining the beavers not as invaders, but as a diaspora.

    Ogden Nash honored many animals, but seems to have missed the beaver. Mason Williams did not:

    Them Beaver Cleavers

    How about Them Beaver Cleavers,
    Ain’t they rank?
    Cleavin’ them beavers,
    Down on the bank.

    Cleavin’ they heads in,
    Cleavin’ they spine,
    Clompin’ them beavers,
    Ever one they find.

    Look at Them Beaver Cleavers,
    Ain’t they a shock?
    Some use a ball peen,
    Some use a rock.

    Them ever clever Beaver Cleavers,
    Hidin’ in the leaves,
    Beaver comes by,
    Gitsa few cleaves.

    How to be a Beaver Cleaver?
    Ain’t much to it.
    Jist coldcock a beaver,
    Reckon that’ll do it!

    • Replies: @Intelligent Dasein
    @Reg Cæsar

    If only you could put your powers to good use. You're like Lex(icographer) Luthor.

  67. @Reg Cæsar

    “They are these miraculous world builders,” says Ogden, who wrote an essay imagining the beavers not as invaders, but as a diaspora.
     
    Ogden Nash honored many animals, but seems to have missed the beaver. Mason Williams did not:

    Them Beaver Cleavers


    How about Them Beaver Cleavers,
    Ain't they rank?
    Cleavin' them beavers,
    Down on the bank.

    Cleavin' they heads in,
    Cleavin' they spine,
    Clompin' them beavers,
    Ever one they find.

    Look at Them Beaver Cleavers,
    Ain't they a shock?
    Some use a ball peen,
    Some use a rock.

    Them ever clever Beaver Cleavers,
    Hidin' in the leaves,
    Beaver comes by,
    Gitsa few cleaves.

    How to be a Beaver Cleaver?
    Ain't much to it.
    Jist coldcock a beaver,
    Reckon that'll do it!
     

    Replies: @Intelligent Dasein

    If only you could put your powers to good use. You’re like Lex(icographer) Luthor.

  68. @Boomthorkell
    Ideology aside (which is absolutely important, but already discussed and readily obvious), is this also a part of a wider attempt by the system to undo years of (sensible) environmentalist brainwashing and indoctrination, train the people to be even further an "indoors" creature as the ecosystem around them continues an onwards death spiral?

    Global Warming is both wrong and a lie (like earlier claims of Global Cooling, as the weather simply moves in cycles), but what's absolutely true is the untold destruction of wildlife hierarchies and spaces for improperly managed development. This article is probably prepping GoodWhites and Loyal Leftists to accept further destruction rather than going all "Uppity Eco-Terrorist." I guess much like how they took America's Left and got them to join hands with the Alphabet Soup State.

    Replies: @Bert, @Bill Jones

    Global Warming is both wrong and a lie (like earlier claims of Global Cooling, as the weather simply moves in cycles), but what’s absolutely true is the untold destruction of wildlife hierarchies and spaces for improperly managed development.

    The conclusive evidence against uniquely dangerous Global Warming is the Holocene Climatic Optimum, inconveniently named by its discoverers, who worked in pre-Global-Warming days.

    • Thanks: Boomthorkell
  69. This is about the increasing number of Haitians in my part of Michigan, right?

  70. @Rob McX
    @RonaldReagansLoveChildWithMadonna

    If the environmentalists were honest, they'd definitely be closing the borders and trying to reduce the human population everywhere. Immigration just postpones the immigrants' countries need to control population. Here's another Vox hypocrite - "I’m an environmental journalist, but I never write about overpopulation. Here’s why. "In practice, where you find concern over 'population', you very often find racism, xenophobia, or eugenics lurking in the wings".

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Wokechoke, @tyrone, @Paperback Writer

    There’s a limit to water. Even Malthus Critics know this.

    • Replies: @Captain Tripps
    @Wokechoke

    Pick any resource. There is an upper limit. Arable (for agriculture) land; habitable (for people) land; copper; iron; nickel; water, etc., etc. Now, put the estimate of the total amount of that resource in the denominator, then put the total human population (excluding all other life) in the numerator. As the numerator grows, the amount of resource available per person shrinks (then add in all other life that compete for the resource too, though not much of an issue for items we humans use exclusively like minerals, fossil fuels and such). Of course, our smarts and technology can give us some extra marginal improvements in the denominator (i.e. fracking, recycling, fertilizers, etc.). Assuming unchecked reproduction, at some point too many humans will exhaust a given resource. Of course, the good news is, outside of Africa, population growth is stabilizing and/or shrinking.

    Maybe we can get to the asteroid belt and ameliorate some of our inorganic resource needs, including water, but that is still off in the future (if practicable) to make a difference. Of course the Moon is closer ,but poor in water content, which is a necessity to maintain life. Now Mars on the other hand....

    , @RonaldReagansLoveChildWithMadonna2
    @Wokechoke

    "limit to water"

    I assume you have seen a picture of Earth from space and know what all that blue-green stuff is. But maybe you didn't know about this technology? http://thearubahouse.com/drinking_water.html

  71. @Joe Stalin
    We need to start using the word "transfection" to describe the deliberate introduction of Alien DNA into a country.

    "Brandon is transfecting the USA by deliberately introducing hostile DNA via open barriers."

    Replies: @Rob, @Mr. Anon, @Ron Mexico

    The more I hear about this Brandon guy, the more I don’t care for him.

  72. First Lysenko, now Bolotnikova, tragedy, farce, and all that.

    • Replies: @ic1000
    @iffen

    What's the IQ of the reader being targeted by Vox's editors? The article's content is entirely argument-by-analogy, or more exactly, stupid-argument-by-stupid-analogy.

    I'll believe that IQ 95+ Outer Party membership has taken the invasive-bad talking points to heart, once I've watched NBC Nightly News With Lester Holt report approvingly on Antifa's torching of WWF headquarters.

    tl;dr Marina Bolotnikova, Banita Subramaniam, and scholars looking askance at the influence of invasion biology and arguing that the field has a baked-in, nativist bias: "We are baizou, and proud of it. As the new the hostile elite, we aim to displace you Core Americans. It's crucially important to note that you aren't welcome in our circles -- thus, since we don't know you, we don't hate you personally. So, study our tortured metaphors, tweet your agreement, and otherwise shut up. Thanks!"

    Replies: @iffen

    , @Reg Cæsar
    @iffen


    First Lysenko, now Bolotnikova, tragedy, farce, and all that.
     
    First time, Lysenkoism, second time, Bolotulism.


    "Invasive species" appears to be a novel way to push Puerto Rican independence. It works in both directions.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Anonymous

  73. @Achmed E. Newman
    I know scientists can get pretty specialized, but this is the first I've heard of an invasion biologist. One could also say that Marina Bolotnikova is part of a biologist invasion. Maybe that's why she chose this new "specialization".

    It's pretty crazy, though, this concept of basing a scientific opinion on the similar wording in your field to something political. In my opinion, that's not the way to do science. If that's the new way, though, as much more of a student of the physical sciences, I say we quit demonizing the noble gases too. Let me be the first of the invasion chemists to state categorically that I am not a Xenophobe..

    Here ya' go - 2nd Peak Stupidity post EVAH!:

    Regarding Mr. Fulford's column, Dictionary.com notwithstanding, I have also been aware of the more widespread use of the term Xenophobe. I will tell you right now that I greatly resent being called this nasty term, not because I am sick to death of foreigners (which I am, BTW), but just due to my knowledge of basic chemistry!

    Have you people (NY Times, I guess?) no shame? At no point in my life have I lived in any kind of irrational fear of the element Xenon, or any other of the noble gases in column 8 of the periodic table! I will grant you that the EPA got me freaked out about the element Radon back in the '80's, but this was no irrational fear. It was quite rational, until I realized the EPA were full-of-it like all almost all other US Gov't agencies.

    I am a great friend of Neon. I think it is one of the most vibrant of elements, and I welcome it to our cities and bars. I welcome to our society any element with a stable outer shell of electrons. We should all appreciate a diversity of molecular weights, and not be afraid of and bullying to any isotopes, even those that shed a few neutrons now and then. No, I don't personally have a filled outer shell, but I have close friends who have Argon in between their windowpanes and aquaintances who suck on Helium quite often in order to talk like the Donald (no, the duck, get with the program, people).

    To be brutally honest with myself, yes, OK, I used to fear the Alkali metals. Yes, I said the A-word, OK. However, it was only due to my lingering post-traumatic disorder from my tossing of a hunk of sodium into the toilet in 10th grade. I am currently in a 12 step program for this and have made the appropriate apologies.

    In conclusion, I am shocked, shocked, I tell you, to be slandered in such a fashion, by people who wouldn't know the Lanthanides from the Rare Earths in a hole in the ground.

    Replies: @Intelligent Dasein

    It’s pretty crazy, though, this concept of basing a scientific opinion on the similar wording in your field to something political.

    It is my impression that many journalists these days are just grown-up versions of the kind of smart-aleck high school kids who think that sheer verbal dexterity and blunderbuss, combined with a smattering of de rigueur political sentiment, will so bowl over the teacher that they can write an ‘A’ paper on any subject, despite not knowing anything about it. Consequently, they rarely do any real research or any real work; and their hastily compiled essays, written in a pharmaceutical fog the night before due date, are a a type of sadomasochistic ritual by which they think to inflict their power upon a global peanut gallery. Once you learn to spot this kind of thing, you can see it popping up all over the place, like hunting for mushrooms in a forest.

    For a perfect (and perfectly nauseating) example, check out the thoroughly crappy obituary of Glenn Frey by Sarah Larson in The New Yorker. Seldom has anything been written from such utter depths of cluelessness by a person more obviously in love with the sound of her own voice. Take a glance to see what I mean; it will be educational.

    • Agree: Boomthorkell
    • Disagree: JMcG
    • Replies: @usNthem
    @Intelligent Dasein

    You’re right - I got about halfway through and couldn’t take anymore.

    , @Paleo Liberal
    @Intelligent Dasein

    I spent 5 minutes of my life I can never get back reading that.

    You are correct. Total self-indulgence. Nothing about the life and contributions of the dear departed. Just using the death of a famous person for navel gazing.


    There are several reasons I don’t trust journalists.

    Just suffice it to say I was once completely misquoted in a front page New York Times article. As in they had me saying the exact opposite of what I really said in order to bolster the b*tchiness of the woman who interviewed me.

    , @Jack D
    @Intelligent Dasein

    On some level, in a world where facts and figures are only a click away:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glenn_Frey

    such solipsistic essays make sense. We all know who Glenn Frey was and by the time our copy of The New Yorker arrived in our mailbox, we would have known for a week or two that he was dead, but what did Glenn Frey mean to Sarah Larson? For that, we must read The New Yorker.....

    , @Reg Cæsar
    @Intelligent Dasein


    ...check out the thoroughly crappy obituary of Glenn Frey by Sarah Larson in The New Yorker.
     
    Check out the respectful obituary of Glen Frey in the Toledo Blade:


    Glen R. Frey, 1940-2013: Ex-professor at BGSU taught climatology
    , @Ron Mexico
    @Intelligent Dasein

    Thanks for letting me read Sarah Larson's rant about Glenn Frey. Female journalist...
    Mr. Glenn Frey, responsible for the #1 and #3 greatest selling albums in American History. Maybe she never received an invite to an Aspen party as she had hoped.
    "It's your world now
    Use well the time
    Be part of something good
    Leave something good behind" 2007, Eagles

    , @Achmed E. Newman
    @Intelligent Dasein

    I agree with you and your repliers, I.D. To add to P.L.' s comment, I think it was plain laziness also. The writer just listened to a few songs or looked up the lyrics on-line. Then she wove them into her little complaint about how some of the songs piss her off due to slight political incorrectness. Yes, lady, Hotel California has been overplayed! So has that Liberty Mutual Emu commercial, but I know which one I'd rather have come on. They got these newfangled "skip" buttons now.

    The album Hotel California, along with the 4 albums made by with the still-country-rock sound (before Bernie Leadon left), and even The Long Run have plenty of obscure songs that are damn good. I could paste in a dozen that would floor that Atlantic author. Whether she'd admit it or not is another story ...

    This one is just for fun!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bEiDPGoMhMw

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

    , @Reg Cæsar
    @Intelligent Dasein

    That wasn't an obituary but a memoir. Which is fine, as long as they labeled it as such.

  74. @Patriot
    Many invasives wreak havoc on native ecosystems: Argentine fire ants, Japanese beetles, Dutch elm disease, emerald ash borer, West Nile Virus, Chinese Covid virus, Asian Tiger mosquito, zebra mussels, Oriental fruit moth, Gypsy moth, Indian meal moth, Med fruit fly, Chestnut blight, Cuban tree frogs, Brazilian pepper, and thousands others.

    Once these foreign invaders are here, they feed on or parasitize, or out breed the native species sometimes causing them to go extinct.

    Our beautiful native species have a right to survive, such as our majestic elms, chestnut and ash trees, which have been driven to near extinction by invasive foreign diseases.

    Some cause permanent costs, which will continue forever, year after year, weakening our economy and well-being, forever.

    It’s so much more efficient to simply keep them out.

    Replies: @Hannah Katz, @The Wild Geese Howard, @obwandiyag, @Bill Jones

    I suppose some would prefer that Africanized Killer Bees replace the European Honey Bees. After all, the Europeans are mainly interested in making honey and will attack only if they are attacked. The Africans, on the other hand, will attack you unprovoked, and are not so much for making honey. Let’s ask Ibram X. Kendi.

    • LOL: Paperback Writer
  75. @Anonymous
    'Species' are inherently discriminatory and exclusionary. They are also unabashedly inherently extremely opposed to each, by nature and design.

    These are all the very things that really, really rile the modern left.

    So, the left is 'anti species' and will probably rule, at some time or another, that 'species does not exist'.

    Come to to think of it, the modern, Economist whipped, woke left is against life and nature, and therefore planet Earth - and ultimately they are against Life, the Universe and Everything.

    Replies: @Intelligent Dasein

    So, the left is ‘anti species’ and will probably rule, at some time or another, that ‘species does not exist’.

    Then they would be true Darwinians. Think about that next time you are tempted to use evolutionary theory as a bolster for race-realism.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Intelligent Dasein

    Surely, Darwin named his tome the 'Origin of Species' for a reason ......

    The point is that multiple competing gene pools have the inexorable tendency to 'partition themselves off', hence the reason molluscs, whales and liverworts are all hypothesised to have the same ultimate common ancestor.

    Never mind the notion that the tiger and the deer were, eons ago, one and the same organism, ancestrally speaking.

  76. @Mr. Anon
    @Achmed E. Newman


    I get the feeling that there are too many women who somehow get into scientific fields who hate doing actual science so come up with political criticisms of their fields instead of doing scientific work.
     
    A lot of modern science and engineering consists of making up work for all the people who went to college and got degrees in the field but don't really like doing it. Hence the profusion of managers. Women are especially over-represented in this regard.

    Replies: @Rob McX

    A lot of modern science and engineering consists of making up work for all the people who went to college and got degrees in the field but don’t really like doing it.

    Or can’t do it. The softest gig of all is writing woke critiques of whatever field they’re supposed to be working in. Can’t make it as an engineer/physicist/biologist? Write articles about how women are discriminated in engineering/physics/biology.

  77. @Anonymous
    Here in So Cal, I got my ankles chewed up just yesterday by those fucking Indonesian mosquito's that have fairly recently arrived here. These gnat-looking little fuckers bite repeatedly and voraciously. The insertion tube they have is serrated, so it smarts much more than indigenous mosquitos. They’re like little Tasmanian devils of the mosquito world. Last year they weren’t out biting by this time of year. They seemed to prefer the summer. I guess I’ve been corrected. Plus they bite all day, and all night, aggressively.

    Just another reason to leave this hellhole state.

    It’s probably just a matter of time before these fucking flesh-eating BEES arrive in California.

    These guys can certainly take the piss out of your next Malibu beach party.

    https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2021/11/211123131006.htm

    Replies: @Anonymous

    Thanks for the mosquito info. Somehow I had tunnel vision that there were no mosquitos in low humidity Los Angeles.
    I suspected I had a flea infestation or bed bugs, but during the night I could hear the mosquito in the night. Definitely very itchy with cortizone not helping much.

    • Replies: @Sick 'n Tired
    @Anonymous

    Put rubbing alcohol on the bites instead, it works better than cortisone.

  78. @gabriel alberton

    In the 21st century, there’s no such thing as an undisrupted ecosystem, and this will only become truer as climate change and habitat loss accelerate. It’s crucial that we get this right.
     
    Isn't it the case that, by this logic, nothing should be done against climate change and habitat loss? Why you resist change, you bigot?
    And I'm sure that chick is all for the "compassionate conservation'' of large, moist, foul-smelling P. americana thoughout her own domicile...

    https://www.mypmp.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/Cockroach-Credit-iStockphoto.jpg

    Replies: @the one they call Desanex, @MEH 0910

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_cockroach

    Despite their name, American cockroaches are native to Africa and the Middle East. They are believed to have been introduced to the Americas only from the 17th century AD onward as a result of human commercial patterns,[2] including the Atlantic slave trade.[5]

    [MORE]

    Distribution

    Despite the name, none of the Periplaneta species is native to the Americas; P. americana was introduced to what is now the United States from Africa as early as 1625.[2] They are now common in tropical climates because human activity has extended the insects’ range of habitation, and are virtually cosmopolitan in distribution as a result of global commerce.[2]

    • Replies: @MEH 0910
    @MEH 0910

    The 1625 Project?

    https://entnemdept.ufl.edu/creatures/urban/roaches/american_cockroach.htm#dist


    Distribution

    Forty-seven species are included in the genus Periplaneta, none of which are endemic to the U.S. (Bell and Adiyodi 1981). The American cockroach, Periplaneta americana, was introduced to the United States from Africa as early as 1625 (Bell and Adiyodi 1981). The American cockroach has spread throughout the world by commerce.
     
    https://books.google.com/books?id=7JCsYtH-VcYC&pg=PA1#v=onepage&q&f=false
    , @gabriel alberton
    @MEH 0910

    Well pointed out, I should have added that. If only they were originally named Periplaneta africana (and Rattus asiaticus [rather than R. norvegicus] -- already mentioned in this thread) their epithets would be closer to what might be the truth of their origins. And I'd enjoy calling them African cockroach (and Chinese rat).

  79. @Zachary Smith
    Really strange stuff. The young woman is a recent graduate of Harvard with a BA in Slavic Languages, etc. If Google can be trusted, she is Jewish and from Russia.

    No published books I could find, and probably no serious scholarly articles either. Her twitter site hypes a book about Invasives, and she made a remark there of her desire to write about feral hogs.

    Would she love the Burmese pythons in Florida? Does she embrace black rats? Kudzu? The brown snakes of Guam? The rabbits of Australia? Fire ants are moving North. Will the Harvard graduate welcome those fire ants when they arrive at wherever she lives?

    Why is Mr. Sailer hyping this stuff? Is he a fan of Marina Bolotnikova's beliefs? A relative?

    Nothing at all is clear here.

    I'm on the other side of this issue, having recently spent too many thousands of dollars removing dead Ash trees here. So I'm not going to play kissy-face with the invasive Emerald Ash Borer.

    Personally I believe Ms. Bolotnikova should stick with topics she better understands - Slavic Languages, maybe.

    Replies: @Alfa158, @Reg Cæsar, @Bardon Kaldian, @Jack D, @Peter Akuleyev, @The Wild Geese Howard, @Brutusale, @Adam Smith, @Eric Novak

    I think that there is chance that Ms Muddy is not Slavic, whatever it means, but ….you know who.

  80. @Dave Pinsen
    https://twitter.com/paul_hundred/status/1465476002193227781?s=21

    Replies: @stillCARealist

    Yeah, check out the scolex on any self-respecting tapeworm. They really are built to just hang on and eat.
    My guess is that if a Vox liberal gets a tapeworm, he/she/it will consider it an invader and take the necessary and nasty medication to eradicate it.

    Is covid-19 an invader? Shall we value it as an individual with its own moral value?

  81. @Rob McX
    @RonaldReagansLoveChildWithMadonna

    If the environmentalists were honest, they'd definitely be closing the borders and trying to reduce the human population everywhere. Immigration just postpones the immigrants' countries need to control population. Here's another Vox hypocrite - "I’m an environmental journalist, but I never write about overpopulation. Here’s why. "In practice, where you find concern over 'population', you very often find racism, xenophobia, or eugenics lurking in the wings".

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Wokechoke, @tyrone, @Paperback Writer

    If you are “honest” you get canceled …..human population? ……don’t worry we are just at the beginning of the global bio-war on the human population ….if covid and the vax don’t do the trick Mr. Bill has already signaled that small pox may/ is coming ……prediction: the population at the end of this century will be a fraction of what it is today………OH NO! I’m a conspiracy theorist.

  82. @iffen
    First Lysenko, now Bolotnikova, tragedy, farce, and all that.

    Replies: @ic1000, @Reg Cæsar

    What’s the IQ of the reader being targeted by Vox‘s editors? The article’s content is entirely argument-by-analogy, or more exactly, stupid-argument-by-stupid-analogy.

    I’ll believe that IQ 95+ Outer Party membership has taken the invasive-bad talking points to heart, once I’ve watched NBC Nightly News With Lester Holt report approvingly on Antifa’s torching of WWF headquarters.

    tl;dr Marina Bolotnikova, Banita Subramaniam, and scholars looking askance at the influence of invasion biology and arguing that the field has a baked-in, nativist bias: “We are baizou, and proud of it. As the new the hostile elite, we aim to displace you Core Americans. It’s crucially important to note that you aren’t welcome in our circles — thus, since we don’t know you, we don’t hate you personally. So, study our tortured metaphors, tweet your agreement, and otherwise shut up. Thanks!”

    • Replies: @iffen
    @ic1000

    What’s the IQ of the reader being targeted by Vox‘s editors?

    Supposedly the above average, college educated slice. I keep reading that leftists are higher IQ than those on the right, but obviously there is a cline on both sides.

  83. Vox: It’s Time to Stop Demonizing “invasive” Species

    Marina Bolotnikova

    LOL.

    • Replies: @AnotherDad
    @AnotherDad


    Vox: It’s Time to Stop Demonizing “invasive” Species

    Marina Bolotnikova
     

    "You must let us come and loot you!"

    Since the advocates of this ideology have no influence in America, no voice in American media and we rarely get to hear this perspective, we must be grateful to Vox for courageously providing a platform for this lonely brave new voice to be heard.

  84. Invasive feces.

    H/T Emily Litella

  85. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ecological_Imperialism_(book)

    Ecological Imperialism: The Biological Expansion of Europe, 900-1900 is a 1986 book by environmental historian Alfred W. Crosby. The book builds on Crosby’s earlier study, The Columbian Exchange, in which he described the complex global transfer of organisms that accompanied European colonial endeavors.

    In Ecological Imperialism, Crosby seeks to explain why European colonialists were successful in establishing settler societies in temperate regions around the globe. He argues that this was due principally to the “portmanteau biota” – disease microbes, weeds, domesticated plants, and animals – that accompanied Europeans, devastating local populations and significantly re-making local landscapes. The book advanced understandings of the environmental impacts of global colonialism and re-shaped understandings of the colonial experience itself, placing environmental factors at its center.[1]

    • Thanks: Corvinus
    • Replies: @Bert
    @MEH 0910

    Crosby's book breaks no new ground. It merely retells a long-known story. The only question that arises from the success of European expansion is why Sub-Saharan Africans did not colonize tropical India which was much closer to them than the Americas were to Europeans. 200,000 years is a long time to procrastinate about doing something important.

    https://altonalyce.blogspot.com/2019/11/world-map-tropic-of-cancer.html

    Replies: @Corvinus

  86. OT – Steve, looks like the biological daughter of Angelina Jolie and Brad Pitt has aged out of her tomboy phase into a feminine young woman, with her parents’ distinctive and striking looks.

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/entertainment/entertainment-celebrity/shiloh-jolie-pitt-s-amazing-transformation/ss-AARi4mE?ocid=msedgntp#image=1

    Fortunately for Shiloh, her sensible parents allowed her to act out her adolescent phase of wearing boys’ clothes but drew the line at hijacking her endocrine system and having a manic plastic surgeon carve up her perfectly healthy human parts.

    Back on point, despite what Vox says, if you see a snakehead fish in North America, try to kill it.

    • Replies: @Clyde
    @The Anti-Gnostic

    Ha - She looks like Brad Pitt. Hopefully, his genes will dominate in her. ********* I have seen three 3-4ft long snake heads at a time, lounging in warm shallow water. A neighbor caught a few. He would not eat them, but let these pests die out of the water.

    Replies: @The Anti-Gnostic

  87. @Bert
    @Emblematic


    The more multi-racial Australia has become, the less people seem to care about endangered Australian wildlife. When Australia had a White Australia policy the official attitude was “we have to become a new unified nation and make ourselves at home in this strange land”. And when environmentalism came in that was added to this idea.

    But now there is no national identity except ‘diversity’ and the non-white populations are encouraged to keep their separate cultures. Anything too distinctly or traditionally Australian is associated with Australian history, which is too white. Native Australian animals mostly live out in the bush, which is also too white. What interests people now is city-based culture, and that culture is Global.
     
    Mass immigration, legal or not, is the death knell of environmental preservation. Only European Caucasians care about preserving natural ecosystems, and among them only the Germanic ethnicities care deeply.

    David Gelbaum, a Jewish investor and "environmentalist," thwarted a rational environmentalist response to mass immigration in the United States.

    But the biggest donation the Sierra Club ever received is the one that altered it forever. In 2004, the Los Angeles Times revealed a $100 million gift made by investor David Gelbaum. Unfortunately for environmentalists, Gelbaum’s money came with the string attached that the club never speak out against or try to limit immigration into the United States no matter how obvious it became that adding more people has severe ecological consequences.

    Gelbaum told Times reporter Kenneth Weiss that his instructions to then-Sierra Club Executive Director Carl Pope were that “if they ever came out anti-immigration, they would never get a dollar from me.” Pope eagerly agreed — but with devastating results.

    Not that long ago, the Sierra Club had willingly tackled immigration-related population issues. In her spring 1989 report, Dr. Judy Kunofsky, chair of the Sierra Club Population Committee, concluded that the club should work to “bring about the stabilization of the population first of the United States and then of the world.” That goal was abruptly abandoned after the club deposited Gelbaum’s check.
     
    https://www.noozhawk.com/article/021712_joe_guzzardi_sierra_club

    Replies: @Corvinus

    “Only European Caucasians care about preserving natural ecosystems, and among them only the Germanic ethnicities care deeply.”

    That is patently false.

    https://www.unep.org/news-and-stories/story/indigenous-peoples-and-nature-they-protect

    Indigenous peoples have conserved biodiversity for millennia. They created thousands of crop varieties, livestock breeds, and unique landscapes. These practices continue today. Remember, indigenous tribes generally did not have a concept of land ownership and exploitation like the Europeans, and they were the original conservationists.

    https://www.umanitoba.ca/institutes/natural_resources/canadaresearchchair/EA2000.pdf

    • Replies: @Alec Leamas (working from home)
    @Corvinus


    Remember, indigenous tribes generally did not have a concept of land ownership and exploitation like the Europeans, and they were the original conservationists.
     
    This is silly "noble savage" nonsense. Natives may not have had a concept of title, but they certainly exercised the primary rights of ownership such as the supreme right to exclude. Otherwise, why did tribes bonk one another over the head with tomahawks and take their stuff for themselves?

    Replies: @Corvinus

    , @Bert
    @Corvinus

    Do a Google search for “desertification in Africa” for information regarding indigenous conservationists’ success there.

    Here is one of the links that you will find. It discusses the re-planting of trees which were removed by earlier generations of highly committed indigenous conservationists.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-34790661

    Replies: @Corvinus

    , @Clyde
    @Corvinus


    Indigenous peoples have conserved biodiversity for millennia.
     
    Only because there were too few of them. North America was basically unpopulated when the white man arrived. Tops, 2 million Indians were in the USA and Canada. Only the Aztecs, Mayans, Incas lived in semi-dense cities. The Aztec population was huge. The Mayans huge, the Incas get estimates of 4-37 million at their empire's peak.

    North American slash and burn farming worked out OK. Such thin populations allowed American Indians to drive 100 panicked buffalo off a cliff, so that they could eat 15 of them. They preserved much of the meat. So many buffalo, with so few Indians, this meant that our future casino owners could not make a dent on the middle America buffalo populations.

    , @Patriot
    @Corvinus

    The only reason indigenous people “conserved” the environment was because their technical ignorance, diseases, and constant warfare kept their populations super low.

    I’ve been all over the world living with “native people” and virtually all of them simply kill and harvest everything they can. Now that the West has brought them guns, chainsaws, and antibiotics, the environmental destruction is astronomical.

    For the most part, the ONLY people fighting this environmental destruction are White people (NGO’s) and a few Indigenous people they employ (pay) to follow the White man’s dictates.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    , @TWS
    @Corvinus

    You've never spent one day even touring a reservation have you?

    Replies: @Corvinus

  88. @Bill P
    @Anon

    Theyre much plenty mad where I live over the European green crab:

    https://amp.thenewstribune.com/news/state/washington/article256140892.html

    Maybe they'll let me trap the things without having to buy a license. I bet they're tasty.

    For some reason nobody is complaining about the eastern cottontails infesting our county, but they are much cuter than green crabs.

    Replies: @Alec Leamas (working from home)

    Theyre much plenty mad where I live over the European green crab:

    In the Northeast/Mid Atlantic fishermen use Green Crab halves as bait for Tautog. I think they’re shipped into tackle shops from Maine. The Asian shore crab – also used as bait for Tautog – is pretty well established down here. You just turn over a rock at low tide on the back bay shores and you’ll find dozens at a time.

    Maybe we should send you some Tautog to eat the crabs? What could go wrong?

    • Replies: @Bill P
    @Alec Leamas (working from home)

    The green crabs are not as strong here as they could be because our rock crabs eat them when they venture too far from the estuarine environments that shelter them. I think the Lummi are worried because they prey on shellfish in the mudflats at the mouth of the Nooksack.

    BTW, it's funny how you guys' fish seem so strange to me despite my having spent all my life within a couple miles of seafood-filled saltchuck. Tautog, blue crabs, lobsters -- we don't have any of that.

  89. Just jumping in to point out that all earthworm species found in North America are invasive. There were none here until Europeans began traveling here.

    • Replies: @rebel yell
    @Paul Rise

    "Earthworms are native to the United States, says Melissa McCormick, ecologist at the Smithsonian Environmental Research Center, but the earthworms in some northern parts of the country (including Vermont) aren’t indigenous."

  90. The Left asserts that invasive people are not a problem, and turns to biological sciences for proof. Forcing them to denigrate biology when it doesn’t help them.

  91. @Corvinus
    @Bert

    “Only European Caucasians care about preserving natural ecosystems, and among them only the Germanic ethnicities care deeply.”

    That is patently false.

    https://www.unep.org/news-and-stories/story/indigenous-peoples-and-nature-they-protect

    Indigenous peoples have conserved biodiversity for millennia. They created thousands of crop varieties, livestock breeds, and unique landscapes. These practices continue today. Remember, indigenous tribes generally did not have a concept of land ownership and exploitation like the Europeans, and they were the original conservationists.

    https://www.umanitoba.ca/institutes/natural_resources/canadaresearchchair/EA2000.pdf

    Replies: @Alec Leamas (working from home), @Bert, @Clyde, @Patriot, @TWS

    Remember, indigenous tribes generally did not have a concept of land ownership and exploitation like the Europeans, and they were the original conservationists.

    This is silly “noble savage” nonsense. Natives may not have had a concept of title, but they certainly exercised the primary rights of ownership such as the supreme right to exclude. Otherwise, why did tribes bonk one another over the head with tomahawks and take their stuff for themselves?

    • Replies: @Corvinus
    @Alec Leamas (working from home)

    "This is silly “noble savage” nonsense."

    Nope.

    https://americanindian.si.edu/nk360/manhattan/different-views-land/different-views-land.cshtml

    To Europeans, land was a commodity, an item which could be bought and sold and assigned to an individual owner. Native Americans, did not appreciate the notion of land as a commodity, especially not in terms of individual ownership. As a result, Indian groups would sell land, but in their minds had only sold the rights to use the lands. It seems, in fact, that when they sold land to the Dutch they did not give up their right to occupy it either. The famous purchase of Manhattan Island for sixty guilders loses some of its impact as a great real estate deal when one considers that the Indians probably never intended to give it up, but rather to “lease” it for Dutch use while they continued to occupy it.

    Replies: @Rosie, @Rob

  92. @TyRade
    @Bragadocious

    I think Barbados will join S Africa, and just about every former colony ditching even the symbolism of Her Majesty (aka 'civilisation') in generations of seller's remorse. It may be a tactical move, of course - fleeing the monarchy while the tree-hugger, slavery-knee-taker and all round ar$e Charles assumed the throne; who would not contemplate distancing oneself from that dipstick?

    Replies: @Bragadocious, @Alden, @Thea, @Anonymous

    If I understand you correctly, you’re saying Barbados will regret ditching the monarchy?

    To that, all I can say is, if they do regret it, it will be because the Brits will now seek to make their lives a living hell.

    The British press is already dumping various slanders on the Bajans, saying they’re now a Chinese colony, because Beijing donated some Covid jabs and paved a couple of roads.

    This is what the Brits do. They did it to America, did it to South Africa, and now they’re doing it to little Barbados.

    Remember Glenn Close from Fatal Attraction?

  93. @MEH 0910
    @gabriel alberton

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_cockroach


    Despite their name, American cockroaches are native to Africa and the Middle East. They are believed to have been introduced to the Americas only from the 17th century AD onward as a result of human commercial patterns,[2] including the Atlantic slave trade.[5]
     

    Distribution

    Despite the name, none of the Periplaneta species is native to the Americas; P. americana was introduced to what is now the United States from Africa as early as 1625.[2] They are now common in tropical climates because human activity has extended the insects' range of habitation, and are virtually cosmopolitan in distribution as a result of global commerce.[2]
     

    Replies: @MEH 0910, @gabriel alberton

    The 1625 Project?

    https://entnemdept.ufl.edu/creatures/urban/roaches/american_cockroach.htm#dist

    Distribution

    Forty-seven species are included in the genus Periplaneta, none of which are endemic to the U.S. (Bell and Adiyodi 1981). The American cockroach, Periplaneta americana, was introduced to the United States from Africa as early as 1625 (Bell and Adiyodi 1981). The American cockroach has spread throughout the world by commerce.

    https://books.google.com/books?id=7JCsYtH-VcYC&pg=PA1#v=onepage&q&f=false

  94. @Jack D
    OT - Jussie Smollett's trial started today.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2021/11/29/arts/television/jussie-smollett-trial.html?searchResultPosition=1

    Story appears on p.20 of the print newspaper, so buried as deeply as possible.

    Frankly, unzites are not eager to see this highlighted either because it conflicts with their narrative that Smollett was let go scot free.


    He was, at first, but then a special prosecutor was appointed. The way things work in corrupt big cities is that things like this have to be taken out of local hands. In Philly, a corrupt local union official was just convicted by a Federal jury - not in a million years would anyone from the city touch this case because they were all in on his corruption. After he was convicted, the mayor praised him. His brother sits on the PA Supreme Ct.

    Replies: @HammerJack, @JMcG, @Brutusale, @J.Ross

    Thanks, Jack. I was among those that pointed out your prediction of Jussie Smollett’s fate was wrong. It was I that was wrong.

    • Agree: ic1000
  95. @Mr. Anon

    It’s time to stop demonizing “invasive” species

    Climate change is forcing some animals to move. Don’t call them “invasives.”

    By Marina Bolotnikova
     
    Marina Bolotnikova, eh? Sounds like one of those evil Russians. Haven't the Democrats told us we should just ignore anything said by a Russian? You wouldn't want to be a willing stooge of Vlad the Colluder, would you?

    Let's weaponize this trope against them. Russian? Uh-uh, not buying. We don't listen to those nefarious Slavic types. What are you? One of those Russkie-lovers? Adam Schiff warned us about your kind.

    Now that I think about it ................ Adam Schiff .............. sounds a bit ........ Russian, doesn't it?

    Replies: @Inquiring Mind

    Better from Russia than . . . Kazakhstan?

    Next thing you know, she “shops” at T J Maxx?

  96. @Corvinus
    @Bert

    “Only European Caucasians care about preserving natural ecosystems, and among them only the Germanic ethnicities care deeply.”

    That is patently false.

    https://www.unep.org/news-and-stories/story/indigenous-peoples-and-nature-they-protect

    Indigenous peoples have conserved biodiversity for millennia. They created thousands of crop varieties, livestock breeds, and unique landscapes. These practices continue today. Remember, indigenous tribes generally did not have a concept of land ownership and exploitation like the Europeans, and they were the original conservationists.

    https://www.umanitoba.ca/institutes/natural_resources/canadaresearchchair/EA2000.pdf

    Replies: @Alec Leamas (working from home), @Bert, @Clyde, @Patriot, @TWS

    Do a Google search for “desertification in Africa” for information regarding indigenous conservationists’ success there.

    Here is one of the links that you will find. It discusses the re-planting of trees which were removed by earlier generations of highly committed indigenous conservationists.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-34790661

    • Replies: @Corvinus
    @Bert

    https://www.downtoearth.org.in/news/natural-disasters/amp/desertification-in-africa-10-things-you-must-know-54430

    Poverty-related agricultural practices are a major contributor to desertification. Continuous cultivation without adding supplements, overgrazing, lack of soil and water conservation structures, and indiscriminate bushfires aggravate the process of desertification.

    https://www.theguardian.com/climate-academy/2020/oct/12/indigenous-communities-protect-biodiversity-curb-climate-crisis

    Growing up in the rainforests of Ecuador, Nenquimo deeply respects the flora- and fauna-rich land. Waorani territory spans 2.5m acres and is home to 800 species of animals and birds, many of which are endangered. The forest also acts like a natural pharmacy, producing plants with medicinal properties that can treat everything from wounds to snake bites. One Waorani discovery called curare, a plant extract traditionally used to make poison darts, was developed into a muscle relaxant now popularly used in anesthesia

    https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/what-conservation-efforts-can-learn-from-indigenous-communities/

    On average, they are doing a better job of managing natural resources and environmental hazards like species decline and pollution,” says Pamela McElwee, one of the report’s lead authors and an associate professor of human ecology at Rutgers University. “This is a watershed moment in acknowledging that indigenous and local communities play really important roles in maintaining and managing biodiversity and landscapes that the rest of us can learn from.

  97. @Anonymous
    The stark truth and reality of 'invasive species' is blatantly obvious to any English person who happens to possess a back yard.
    Grey squirrels - in massive numbers - infest not only the English countryside but are found in all suburban and indeed deeply urban environments. Their numbers are legion.

    Apparently, before year 1870 or so they simply *did not exist* anywhere on the British Isles, and never had done. A crank of a Victorian species fetishist let loose a few breeding pairs or so, for 'variety', and this is the end result.

    The other side of the story is that the indigenous red squirrel, an altogether cuter, milder, more gentle and timid animal, not possessing the rat like proclivities of the grey, has more or less vanished from England.

    There's a moral here, surely.

    Replies: @BigJimSportCamper, @dearieme, @Right_On

    Same thing happened in the US in the 1800’s. Some Anglophile twit brought over the English Starling and English House Sparrow, who have spread like the plague across the whole continent, their aggressive behavior destructive to native songbirds. Disaster.

  98. @AnotherDad


    Vox: It’s Time to Stop Demonizing “invasive” Species

    Marina Bolotnikova
     
    LOL.

    Replies: @AnotherDad

    Vox: It’s Time to Stop Demonizing “invasive” Species

    Marina Bolotnikova

    “You must let us come and loot you!”

    Since the advocates of this ideology have no influence in America, no voice in American media and we rarely get to hear this perspective, we must be grateful to Vox for courageously providing a platform for this lonely brave new voice to be heard.

    • Agree: ic1000
    • LOL: Rob McX
  99. @Corvinus
    @Bert

    “Only European Caucasians care about preserving natural ecosystems, and among them only the Germanic ethnicities care deeply.”

    That is patently false.

    https://www.unep.org/news-and-stories/story/indigenous-peoples-and-nature-they-protect

    Indigenous peoples have conserved biodiversity for millennia. They created thousands of crop varieties, livestock breeds, and unique landscapes. These practices continue today. Remember, indigenous tribes generally did not have a concept of land ownership and exploitation like the Europeans, and they were the original conservationists.

    https://www.umanitoba.ca/institutes/natural_resources/canadaresearchchair/EA2000.pdf

    Replies: @Alec Leamas (working from home), @Bert, @Clyde, @Patriot, @TWS

    Indigenous peoples have conserved biodiversity for millennia.

    Only because there were too few of them. North America was basically unpopulated when the white man arrived. Tops, 2 million Indians were in the USA and Canada. Only the Aztecs, Mayans, Incas lived in semi-dense cities. The Aztec population was huge. The Mayans huge, the Incas get estimates of 4-37 million at their empire’s peak.

    North American slash and burn farming worked out OK. Such thin populations allowed American Indians to drive 100 panicked buffalo off a cliff, so that they could eat 15 of them. They preserved much of the meat. So many buffalo, with so few Indians, this meant that our future casino owners could not make a dent on the middle America buffalo populations.

  100. @The Anti-Gnostic
    OT - Steve, looks like the biological daughter of Angelina Jolie and Brad Pitt has aged out of her tomboy phase into a feminine young woman, with her parents' distinctive and striking looks.

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/entertainment/entertainment-celebrity/shiloh-jolie-pitt-s-amazing-transformation/ss-AARi4mE?ocid=msedgntp#image=1

    Fortunately for Shiloh, her sensible parents allowed her to act out her adolescent phase of wearing boys' clothes but drew the line at hijacking her endocrine system and having a manic plastic surgeon carve up her perfectly healthy human parts.

    Back on point, despite what Vox says, if you see a snakehead fish in North America, try to kill it.

    Replies: @Clyde

    Ha – She looks like Brad Pitt. Hopefully, his genes will dominate in her. ********* I have seen three 3-4ft long snake heads at a time, lounging in warm shallow water. A neighbor caught a few. He would not eat them, but let these pests die out of the water.

    • Replies: @The Anti-Gnostic
    @Clyde

    Apparently their flesh is firm, white, flaky and tastes great, once you filet it away from the awful-smelling skin and entrails.

    Replies: @Ralph L, @Reg Cæsar

  101. @Anon
    What do Native Americans have to say about this?

    (Actually, I don't really care.)

    Replies: @Bill P, @Tex, @Expletive Deleted

    What do Native Americans have to say about this?

    They say nothing, but shed one manly tear for what the white man has done.

  102. @Pericles
    https://twitter.com/Steve_Sailer/status/1465123819547283461

    https://twitter.com/thetimes/status/1464594488056238084

    This, by the way, is what happens when children read Harry Potter.

    Replies: @Tex, @Jack D

    The look that says, “I don’t give a crap who you vote for, I got this!”

    • Replies: @Intelligent Dasein
    @Tex


    The look that says, “I don’t give a crap who you vote for, I got this!”
     
    Unfortunately, that's not the attitude we need. That was more or less Trump's attitude, with what results we see. I was hoping that Trump would grow into his role, that the grace of office would work some salutary changes in his personality; but, alas, it was not to be.

    Our situation cannot be helped by careerist politicians whose main objective is to achieve personal success within the current order, even if said politicians happen to be nominally right wing. Again, the experience of Trump has shown us that even legitimate populist sentiments can be coopted by cynical politicians who only want to advance themselves, who neither agree with nor even understand such sentiments.

    I don't really know anything about Zemmour and I hope he will be different. I hope he will be a real patriot. But that means having an attitude of sacrifice, not an attitude of "I got this!"

    Replies: @Brutusale

  103. Enoch Powell was, and still is, right.

    • Agree: acementhead
  104. @Zachary Smith
    Really strange stuff. The young woman is a recent graduate of Harvard with a BA in Slavic Languages, etc. If Google can be trusted, she is Jewish and from Russia.

    No published books I could find, and probably no serious scholarly articles either. Her twitter site hypes a book about Invasives, and she made a remark there of her desire to write about feral hogs.

    Would she love the Burmese pythons in Florida? Does she embrace black rats? Kudzu? The brown snakes of Guam? The rabbits of Australia? Fire ants are moving North. Will the Harvard graduate welcome those fire ants when they arrive at wherever she lives?

    Why is Mr. Sailer hyping this stuff? Is he a fan of Marina Bolotnikova's beliefs? A relative?

    Nothing at all is clear here.

    I'm on the other side of this issue, having recently spent too many thousands of dollars removing dead Ash trees here. So I'm not going to play kissy-face with the invasive Emerald Ash Borer.

    Personally I believe Ms. Bolotnikova should stick with topics she better understands - Slavic Languages, maybe.

    Replies: @Alfa158, @Reg Cæsar, @Bardon Kaldian, @Jack D, @Peter Akuleyev, @The Wild Geese Howard, @Brutusale, @Adam Smith, @Eric Novak

    It’s not at all strange. It’s quite transparent that she is really speaking metaphorically about human invaders and not about trees or bugs and so does not need any scientific qualfications for her rant.

    The Left’s recent “I love Science” position is like their former “I love Free Speech” position – they love it when it supports their worldview and political goals. If it does the opposite, then they have no use for it. Real actual science is hard, too hard for the intelligence level of the average Leftist jornolist. The mantle of “Science” is just another chic outfit that they wear for so long as it is fashionable and has nothing to do with actual science.

    • Replies: @Clyde
    @Jack D


    The Left’s recent “I love Science” position is like their former “I love Free Speech” position – they love it when it supports their worldview and political goals.
     
    With their follow the science bullcrap. Best exemplified when they force those who have Covid antibodies, have anti-Covid acquired immunity, natural immunity. Force them to get vaxxxed or lose their employment. This is prime time anarcho-tyranny, as millions of non-vetted, zero Covid tested illegals are encouraged to cross our borders.
    Keep your D3 levels high, keep your senile Joe expectations low. "What you cannot cure, you must endure" -- For the time being at least. As they feed the Beast.
  105. @Zachary Smith
    Really strange stuff. The young woman is a recent graduate of Harvard with a BA in Slavic Languages, etc. If Google can be trusted, she is Jewish and from Russia.

    No published books I could find, and probably no serious scholarly articles either. Her twitter site hypes a book about Invasives, and she made a remark there of her desire to write about feral hogs.

    Would she love the Burmese pythons in Florida? Does she embrace black rats? Kudzu? The brown snakes of Guam? The rabbits of Australia? Fire ants are moving North. Will the Harvard graduate welcome those fire ants when they arrive at wherever she lives?

    Why is Mr. Sailer hyping this stuff? Is he a fan of Marina Bolotnikova's beliefs? A relative?

    Nothing at all is clear here.

    I'm on the other side of this issue, having recently spent too many thousands of dollars removing dead Ash trees here. So I'm not going to play kissy-face with the invasive Emerald Ash Borer.

    Personally I believe Ms. Bolotnikova should stick with topics she better understands - Slavic Languages, maybe.

    Replies: @Alfa158, @Reg Cæsar, @Bardon Kaldian, @Jack D, @Peter Akuleyev, @The Wild Geese Howard, @Brutusale, @Adam Smith, @Eric Novak

    Why is Mr. Sailer hyping this stuff? Is he a fan of Marina Bolotnikova’s beliefs? A relative?

    Really? Seems pretty clear that Mr. Sailer is just highlighting how insane the open borders crowd is getting. And from the open borders side there is a certain logic to deciding that any kind of “immigration” has to be fine. Too easy to use the “rabbits in Australia” story as a metaphor for how fast-breeding immigrants destroy local culture, and the open borders crowd doesn’t want us to think about that.

  106. @Pericles
    https://twitter.com/Steve_Sailer/status/1465123819547283461

    https://twitter.com/thetimes/status/1464594488056238084

    This, by the way, is what happens when children read Harry Potter.

    Replies: @Tex, @Jack D

    One theory is that Zemmour is leaking these stories about himself to make him appear more virile and appealing to voters. Women especially find men who are wanted by other women as appealing (and shun men who are shunned by other women).

    Otherwise Zemmour is rather repulsive looking. He is the rare Jew who actually looks like a Nazi caricature of a Jew.

    A Jew who is the head of the right wing – an Unzite’s head could explode at the thought.

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
    @Jack D


    A Jew who is the head of the right wing – an Unzite’s head could explode at the thought.
     
    Yeah, it's funny how that (so often) seems to happen:

    https://nationalconservatism.org/people/

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yoram_Hazony

    Get out in front of that movement if you want to control it.
    , @Boomthorkell
    @Jack D

    Eh, I've seen them do it in Israel.

    I use the "wait and see" approach to gauge if someone was playing the long-con or honestly honest.

    I think you're right though that he is leaking these himself. The real joke is, again, that our media misunderstands the French in a way we would have never misunderstood them in a time when Americans were actually cultured (believed in stereotypes).

    , @IHTG
    @Jack D

    His mistress is Jewish as well.

    , @Reg Cæsar
    @Jack D


    He is the rare Jew who actually looks like a Nazi caricature of a Jew.
     
    Perhaps he evokes memories of Serge Gainsbourg.

    https://new.in-24.com/entertainment/temp/resized/medium_2021-09-14-f58ab85861.jpg

    https://www.laut.de/Serge-Gainsbourg/serge-gainsbourg-plrd__0,193-170459.jpg

    Some stubble and a Gitane would help. Along with an uncomfortable daughter.

    , @Ghost of Bull Moose
    @Jack D

    Nazi caricature? He looks like Nosferatu. I hope he wins.

    Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease, @Jack D

  107. @Bert
    @Anonymous

    Jews never troll. They are dead serious and relentless. They never miss an angle by which they could undermine European Caucasians.

    Letter to the Editor [of the Harvard Crimson]
    By Marina N. Bolotnikova
    October 6, 2014
    To the editor:

    As a Jew with a deep bond with the state of Israel, I was saddened and ashamed to watch as the Israeli army killed hundreds of Palestinian civilians in the Gaza Strip this summer, and even more so to witness the reactions of many in the Harvard community as students publicly grieved these injustices. ......
    I experienced a great deal of doubt before deciding to write this letter for fear of offending members of the Jewish community. It shouldn't have to be this way. I am not among a minority but a silent majority of progressive Jews growing increasingly uneasy with Israel's administration.

    https://www.thecrimson.com/article/2014/10/6/letter-israel-palestine-bolotnikova/

    Bolotnikova graduated in journalism from Harvard University.

    Replies: @slumber_j, @Anon

    Bolotnikova graduated in journalism from Harvard University.

    Harvard doesn’t offer a journalism major–or as they put it in that way of theirs, “field of concentration.” People who want to go into journalism study something else and work on the Crimson, the school paper. I assume that’s what she did.

    • Replies: @Bert
    @slumber_j

    Slavic languages seems to have been a particularly easy field of concentration for this particular individual. She was active at The Crimson however.

  108. @MEH 0910
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ecological_Imperialism_(book)

    Ecological Imperialism: The Biological Expansion of Europe, 900-1900 is a 1986 book by environmental historian Alfred W. Crosby. The book builds on Crosby's earlier study, The Columbian Exchange, in which he described the complex global transfer of organisms that accompanied European colonial endeavors.

    In Ecological Imperialism, Crosby seeks to explain why European colonialists were successful in establishing settler societies in temperate regions around the globe. He argues that this was due principally to the "portmanteau biota" – disease microbes, weeds, domesticated plants, and animals – that accompanied Europeans, devastating local populations and significantly re-making local landscapes. The book advanced understandings of the environmental impacts of global colonialism and re-shaped understandings of the colonial experience itself, placing environmental factors at its center.[1]
     
    https://www.amazon.com/Ecological-Imperialism-Biological-Expansion-Environment/dp/0521546184

    Replies: @Bert

    Crosby’s book breaks no new ground. It merely retells a long-known story. The only question that arises from the success of European expansion is why Sub-Saharan Africans did not colonize tropical India which was much closer to them than the Americas were to Europeans. 200,000 years is a long time to procrastinate about doing something important.

    https://altonalyce.blogspot.com/2019/11/world-map-tropic-of-cancer.html

    • Replies: @Corvinus
    @Bert

    “why Sub-Saharan Africans did not colonize tropical India which was much closer to them than the Americas were to Europeans“

    That was addressed in Jared Diamond’s book.

    Replies: @John Johnson, @Reg Cæsar, @Anonymous, @Mr. Anon

  109. @slumber_j
    @Bert


    Bolotnikova graduated in journalism from Harvard University.
     
    Harvard doesn't offer a journalism major--or as they put it in that way of theirs, "field of concentration." People who want to go into journalism study something else and work on the Crimson, the school paper. I assume that's what she did.

    Replies: @Bert

    Slavic languages seems to have been a particularly easy field of concentration for this particular individual. She was active at The Crimson however.

  110. @Emblematic
    The most desired areas in Australian cities are they old ones filled with introduced northern hemisphere trees. The introduced trees are deciduous so provide thick canopies of shade in Australia's brutally hot summers, but then shed their leaves in the autumn and let through the beautiful winter sun.

    The native eucalpytus trees provide less shade in summer, and being evergreen they keep their leaves on year round and block the winter sun.

    Most people also consider the northern hemisphere trees to be more beautiful. But newer suburbs usually have native trees.

    All commercially grown plants and and animals on Australian farms are introduced from somewhere else. You can buy kangaroo meat in the supermarket but they're harvested from the wild.

    Introduced foxes and cats have devastated small native marsupials. Rabbits; canetoads; the list of introduced animals that harm the native ecosystem goes on and on.

    But here's a funny thing. From roughly the 1970s onward there had developed a very heavy emphasis on trying to save native species, but in this century that has become of less interest to people.

    The more multi-racial Australia has become, the less people seem to care about endangered Australian wildlife. When Australia had a White Australia policy the official attitude was "we have to become a new unified nation and make ourselves at home in this strange land". And when environmentalism came in that was added to this idea.

    But now there is no national identity except 'diversity' and the non-white populations are encouraged to keep their separate cultures. Anything too distinctly or traditionally Australian is associated with Australian history, which is too white. Native Australian animals mostly live out in the bush, which is also too white. What interests people now is city-based culture, and that culture is Global.

    Replies: @HammerJack, @Bert, @AnotherDad, @Rob McX, @SunBakedSuburb, @anon

    The more multi-racial Australia has become, the less people seem to care about endangered Australian wildlife. When Australia had a White Australia policy the official attitude was “we have to become a new unified nation and make ourselves at home in this strange land”. And when environmentalism came in that was added to this idea.

    But now there is no national identity except ‘diversity’ and the non-white populations are encouraged to keep their separate cultures. Anything too distinctly or traditionally Australian is associated with Australian history, which is too white. Native Australian animals mostly live out in the bush, which is also too white. What interests people now is city-based culture, and that culture is Global.

    Australia is a fairly unique and interesting place. Great for having a strong national identity. (And a great quality of life.)

    — Unfortunately the War and Cold War and the English language steeped you in America and its toxic effluent since the rise of the minoritarians.

    — A notable fact is that the people who squawk about “diversity” inevitably bring about the destruction of anything unique and special and everyone ends up with the same globhomo ooze.

  111. Invasive … not entirely OT: apparently 95% of investors are bLACK! , because whenever I log in to my accounts at major brokerages and banks, on the home page there is 95% of the time a photo of some butt-ugly bLACK! person. Really weird.

    • LOL: Adam Smith
  112. @Anonymous
    The stark truth and reality of 'invasive species' is blatantly obvious to any English person who happens to possess a back yard.
    Grey squirrels - in massive numbers - infest not only the English countryside but are found in all suburban and indeed deeply urban environments. Their numbers are legion.

    Apparently, before year 1870 or so they simply *did not exist* anywhere on the British Isles, and never had done. A crank of a Victorian species fetishist let loose a few breeding pairs or so, for 'variety', and this is the end result.

    The other side of the story is that the indigenous red squirrel, an altogether cuter, milder, more gentle and timid animal, not possessing the rat like proclivities of the grey, has more or less vanished from England.

    There's a moral here, surely.

    Replies: @BigJimSportCamper, @dearieme, @Right_On

    Mind you, there are people who suspect that the lovely red squirrel was originally introduced to Britain by humans. As were (in all probability) rabbits, pheasants, fallow deer, …

  113. @Mark Spahn (West Seneca, NY)
    https://duckduckgo.com/?q=red+squirrel+grey+squirrel&t=chromentp&ia=web

    Replies: @ginger bread man

    Here’s what I found:

    https://focusingonwildlife.com/news/gray-squirrels-versus-red-squirrels-the-facts/

    While many people have great affection and respect for grey squirrels, they are hated by members of certain groups, most notably those with shooting or forestry interests, and some ‘conservationists’ who believe that the mass killing of greys is justifiable in their quest to boost the number of red squirrels.

    Professor Stephen Harris from the School of Biological Sciences at the University of Bristol studied the effect of grey squirrels on red squirrel numbers.

    He wrote that the vast sums of money spent on red squirrel conservation are not a wise investment, partly because red squirrels are not even an endangered species.

    He wrote: ‘Globally, red squirrel populations are not threatened and the conservation effort in Britain is of little importance.’1

  114. @Patriot
    Many invasives wreak havoc on native ecosystems: Argentine fire ants, Japanese beetles, Dutch elm disease, emerald ash borer, West Nile Virus, Chinese Covid virus, Asian Tiger mosquito, zebra mussels, Oriental fruit moth, Gypsy moth, Indian meal moth, Med fruit fly, Chestnut blight, Cuban tree frogs, Brazilian pepper, and thousands others.

    Once these foreign invaders are here, they feed on or parasitize, or out breed the native species sometimes causing them to go extinct.

    Our beautiful native species have a right to survive, such as our majestic elms, chestnut and ash trees, which have been driven to near extinction by invasive foreign diseases.

    Some cause permanent costs, which will continue forever, year after year, weakening our economy and well-being, forever.

    It’s so much more efficient to simply keep them out.

    Replies: @Hannah Katz, @The Wild Geese Howard, @obwandiyag, @Bill Jones

    zebra mussels

    I have mixed emotions about these.

    Yeah, they clog water pipes.

    On the flipside they’ve done a masterful job of cleaning up the water in the Great Lakes.

  115. @Zachary Smith
    Really strange stuff. The young woman is a recent graduate of Harvard with a BA in Slavic Languages, etc. If Google can be trusted, she is Jewish and from Russia.

    No published books I could find, and probably no serious scholarly articles either. Her twitter site hypes a book about Invasives, and she made a remark there of her desire to write about feral hogs.

    Would she love the Burmese pythons in Florida? Does she embrace black rats? Kudzu? The brown snakes of Guam? The rabbits of Australia? Fire ants are moving North. Will the Harvard graduate welcome those fire ants when they arrive at wherever she lives?

    Why is Mr. Sailer hyping this stuff? Is he a fan of Marina Bolotnikova's beliefs? A relative?

    Nothing at all is clear here.

    I'm on the other side of this issue, having recently spent too many thousands of dollars removing dead Ash trees here. So I'm not going to play kissy-face with the invasive Emerald Ash Borer.

    Personally I believe Ms. Bolotnikova should stick with topics she better understands - Slavic Languages, maybe.

    Replies: @Alfa158, @Reg Cæsar, @Bardon Kaldian, @Jack D, @Peter Akuleyev, @The Wild Geese Howard, @Brutusale, @Adam Smith, @Eric Novak

    Really strange stuff.

    Nah, just sure signs of regime-sanctioned propaganda.

  116. @joe_mama
    They really are determined to double, triple and quadruple down on wokeness in whatever form, even if it wrecks civilization and apparently the environment along with it.

    Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard

    They really are determined to double, triple and quadruple down on wokeness

    They’re a death cult.

    The watermelons in charge are a death cult.

    They want to take all of us with them.

  117. @Jack D
    @Pericles

    One theory is that Zemmour is leaking these stories about himself to make him appear more virile and appealing to voters. Women especially find men who are wanted by other women as appealing (and shun men who are shunned by other women).

    Otherwise Zemmour is rather repulsive looking. He is the rare Jew who actually looks like a Nazi caricature of a Jew.

    A Jew who is the head of the right wing - an Unzite's head could explode at the thought.

    Replies: @Mr. Anon, @Boomthorkell, @IHTG, @Reg Cæsar, @Ghost of Bull Moose

    A Jew who is the head of the right wing – an Unzite’s head could explode at the thought.

    Yeah, it’s funny how that (so often) seems to happen:

    https://nationalconservatism.org/people/

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yoram_Hazony

    Get out in front of that movement if you want to control it.

  118. @Jack D
    @Zachary Smith

    It's not at all strange. It's quite transparent that she is really speaking metaphorically about human invaders and not about trees or bugs and so does not need any scientific qualfications for her rant.

    The Left's recent "I love Science" position is like their former "I love Free Speech" position - they love it when it supports their worldview and political goals. If it does the opposite, then they have no use for it. Real actual science is hard, too hard for the intelligence level of the average Leftist jornolist. The mantle of "Science" is just another chic outfit that they wear for so long as it is fashionable and has nothing to do with actual science.

    Replies: @Clyde

    The Left’s recent “I love Science” position is like their former “I love Free Speech” position – they love it when it supports their worldview and political goals.

    With their follow the science bullcrap. Best exemplified when they force those who have Covid antibodies, have anti-Covid acquired immunity, natural immunity. Force them to get vaxxxed or lose their employment. This is prime time anarcho-tyranny, as millions of non-vetted, zero Covid tested illegals are encouraged to cross our borders.
    Keep your D3 levels high, keep your senile Joe expectations low. “What you cannot cure, you must endure” — For the time being at least. As they feed the Beast.

    • Agree: Ron Mexico
  119. @Jack D
    OT - Jussie Smollett's trial started today.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2021/11/29/arts/television/jussie-smollett-trial.html?searchResultPosition=1

    Story appears on p.20 of the print newspaper, so buried as deeply as possible.

    Frankly, unzites are not eager to see this highlighted either because it conflicts with their narrative that Smollett was let go scot free.


    He was, at first, but then a special prosecutor was appointed. The way things work in corrupt big cities is that things like this have to be taken out of local hands. In Philly, a corrupt local union official was just convicted by a Federal jury - not in a million years would anyone from the city touch this case because they were all in on his corruption. After he was convicted, the mayor praised him. His brother sits on the PA Supreme Ct.

    Replies: @HammerJack, @JMcG, @Brutusale, @J.Ross

    Today’s most targeted whipping boy (can I even use these terms anymore?) has a great take.

    • LOL: Escher
  120. @Bragadocious
    Speaking of invasive species, at midnight tonight Barbados is "ditching" the British monarchy (BBC's word) in favor of a republican government.

    Now, one might say, who cares. But this is a big deal for the BBC--they're providing live coverage! The symbolism is profound. Anyone who rejects their monarchy, including an island about the size of three Costcos, probably goes on a list. Ask South Africa about how things went for them when they kicked the queen out in 1960.

    Replies: @Redneck farmer, @TyRade, @AnotherDad, @Jack D

    Speaking of invasive species, at midnight tonight Barbados is “ditching” the British monarchy (BBC’s word) in favor of a republican government.

    Now, one might say, who cares. But this is a big deal for the BBC–they’re providing live coverage! The symbolism is profound. Anyone who rejects their monarchy, including an island about the size of three Costcos, probably goes on a list. Ask South Africa about how things went for them when they kicked the queen out in 1960.

    Good for them.

    Republican government–properly, that the productive and responsible men who keep society functioning govern themselves–is the correct form of government. (Not to be confused with the bullying super-state protecting and promoting parasitism that the minoritarians have installed.)

    Elected kingship–“John is the bravest and wisest among us, he should lead”–is fine. Hereditary monarchy is just another parasitic grift. And the only thing the monarchial state is supposed to deliver in return for their looting, is protecting the productive from other people invading and looting. The English monarchy wasn’t doing that in Rhodesia or South Africa and doesn’t even do it in England!

  121. Tomorrow Marina Bolotnikova will probably have a scolding screed about how building high density apartments on “wetlands” is driving some obscure insect into extinction.

  122. @Zachary Smith
    Really strange stuff. The young woman is a recent graduate of Harvard with a BA in Slavic Languages, etc. If Google can be trusted, she is Jewish and from Russia.

    No published books I could find, and probably no serious scholarly articles either. Her twitter site hypes a book about Invasives, and she made a remark there of her desire to write about feral hogs.

    Would she love the Burmese pythons in Florida? Does she embrace black rats? Kudzu? The brown snakes of Guam? The rabbits of Australia? Fire ants are moving North. Will the Harvard graduate welcome those fire ants when they arrive at wherever she lives?

    Why is Mr. Sailer hyping this stuff? Is he a fan of Marina Bolotnikova's beliefs? A relative?

    Nothing at all is clear here.

    I'm on the other side of this issue, having recently spent too many thousands of dollars removing dead Ash trees here. So I'm not going to play kissy-face with the invasive Emerald Ash Borer.

    Personally I believe Ms. Bolotnikova should stick with topics she better understands - Slavic Languages, maybe.

    Replies: @Alfa158, @Reg Cæsar, @Bardon Kaldian, @Jack D, @Peter Akuleyev, @The Wild Geese Howard, @Brutusale, @Adam Smith, @Eric Novak

    A quarter of her personal website is dedicated to Avi.

    https://www.marinabolotnikova.com/avi

  123. The USA is constantly being invaded by foreign pests, which cause great economic, health, and quality of life harm to us.

    Do you know that the majority of fruit you buy in stores must be sprayed with toxic pesticides multiple times during the growing season to control introduced insects and diseases?

    Yes, you and your family have to eat pesticides and pay higher costs because these immigrant pests have made there way to our country.

    It costs farmers much \$ to buy and apply the necessary pesticides — costs (and poisons) are passed to your family, forever, because once here, these pests stay forever. Some growing fruit mist be sprayed every 7 days during the growing season, poisoning the entire ecosystem.

    Likewise with invasive foreign diseases: AIDS, West Nile Virus, Chinese Covid flu, antibiotic-resistant TB, and other foreign pathogens pour across our borders.

    How many of the Illegal aliens who sneak across our border are screened for the 100’s of potential foreign diseases they might be carrying? Virtually none!

    The costs of these invading diseases is astronomical and disrupts our nation. Consider just the societal costs of AIDS and the annual foreign flu.

    Insects like invasive fire ants and introduced mosquitoes make our lives miserable. Foreign lice and bed bugs!

    KEEP FOREIGN PESTS OUT!

  124. @Corvinus
    @Bert

    “Only European Caucasians care about preserving natural ecosystems, and among them only the Germanic ethnicities care deeply.”

    That is patently false.

    https://www.unep.org/news-and-stories/story/indigenous-peoples-and-nature-they-protect

    Indigenous peoples have conserved biodiversity for millennia. They created thousands of crop varieties, livestock breeds, and unique landscapes. These practices continue today. Remember, indigenous tribes generally did not have a concept of land ownership and exploitation like the Europeans, and they were the original conservationists.

    https://www.umanitoba.ca/institutes/natural_resources/canadaresearchchair/EA2000.pdf

    Replies: @Alec Leamas (working from home), @Bert, @Clyde, @Patriot, @TWS

    The only reason indigenous people “conserved” the environment was because their technical ignorance, diseases, and constant warfare kept their populations super low.

    I’ve been all over the world living with “native people” and virtually all of them simply kill and harvest everything they can. Now that the West has brought them guns, chainsaws, and antibiotics, the environmental destruction is astronomical.

    For the most part, the ONLY people fighting this environmental destruction are White people (NGO’s) and a few Indigenous people they employ (pay) to follow the White man’s dictates.

    • Agree: Bert, acementhead
    • Disagree: Corvinus
    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Patriot

    This is the common pre-modern attitude. Europeans used to be the same. They believed the bible stories about how the world was created to be used by man, and had no conception that it was possible to drive species into extinction. Modern environmentalism was the result of a long, slow learning process, during which a huge amount of irreversible damage was done.

    Replies: @Corvinus

  125. @Jack D
    @Pericles

    One theory is that Zemmour is leaking these stories about himself to make him appear more virile and appealing to voters. Women especially find men who are wanted by other women as appealing (and shun men who are shunned by other women).

    Otherwise Zemmour is rather repulsive looking. He is the rare Jew who actually looks like a Nazi caricature of a Jew.

    A Jew who is the head of the right wing - an Unzite's head could explode at the thought.

    Replies: @Mr. Anon, @Boomthorkell, @IHTG, @Reg Cæsar, @Ghost of Bull Moose

    Eh, I’ve seen them do it in Israel.

    I use the “wait and see” approach to gauge if someone was playing the long-con or honestly honest.

    I think you’re right though that he is leaking these himself. The real joke is, again, that our media misunderstands the French in a way we would have never misunderstood them in a time when Americans were actually cultured (believed in stereotypes).

  126. @Clyde
    Marina Bolotnikova --- This nitwit is way off base. The invasive species I hear about are insects that hitchhike into America via cargo shipments. Like so called murder hornets. Horticultural diseases that come in from Asia. Exotic reptiles and exotic pets that are released by their bored owners, who are done with them. Intentional releases, such as snake head fish, that Viets and NE Asians like fishing for. I have seen 4ft long snake head fish.

    I have never heard global warming being blamed for invasive species. Climate change panic is so done anyways. No average Joe cares about a climate something taking place some something 35 years in the maybe future. The globalist grifters have found the Covid_CCP panic to be a much more effective fear factor. It gets the sheeple herded much more effectively. Lots faster too!

    Replies: @TWS, @Anon

    Climate change causes heart problems in newborns. Stay with the times.

    • Replies: @tyrone
    @TWS

    Does it cause problems with baloney production?.....apparently not.

    Replies: @TWS

  127. @Corvinus
    @Bert

    “Only European Caucasians care about preserving natural ecosystems, and among them only the Germanic ethnicities care deeply.”

    That is patently false.

    https://www.unep.org/news-and-stories/story/indigenous-peoples-and-nature-they-protect

    Indigenous peoples have conserved biodiversity for millennia. They created thousands of crop varieties, livestock breeds, and unique landscapes. These practices continue today. Remember, indigenous tribes generally did not have a concept of land ownership and exploitation like the Europeans, and they were the original conservationists.

    https://www.umanitoba.ca/institutes/natural_resources/canadaresearchchair/EA2000.pdf

    Replies: @Alec Leamas (working from home), @Bert, @Clyde, @Patriot, @TWS

    You’ve never spent one day even touring a reservation have you?

    • Agree: Rob McX
    • Replies: @Corvinus
    @TWS

    Indigenous does not mean reservation. But then again what does a pale face like you know.

  128. @Emblematic
    The most desired areas in Australian cities are they old ones filled with introduced northern hemisphere trees. The introduced trees are deciduous so provide thick canopies of shade in Australia's brutally hot summers, but then shed their leaves in the autumn and let through the beautiful winter sun.

    The native eucalpytus trees provide less shade in summer, and being evergreen they keep their leaves on year round and block the winter sun.

    Most people also consider the northern hemisphere trees to be more beautiful. But newer suburbs usually have native trees.

    All commercially grown plants and and animals on Australian farms are introduced from somewhere else. You can buy kangaroo meat in the supermarket but they're harvested from the wild.

    Introduced foxes and cats have devastated small native marsupials. Rabbits; canetoads; the list of introduced animals that harm the native ecosystem goes on and on.

    But here's a funny thing. From roughly the 1970s onward there had developed a very heavy emphasis on trying to save native species, but in this century that has become of less interest to people.

    The more multi-racial Australia has become, the less people seem to care about endangered Australian wildlife. When Australia had a White Australia policy the official attitude was "we have to become a new unified nation and make ourselves at home in this strange land". And when environmentalism came in that was added to this idea.

    But now there is no national identity except 'diversity' and the non-white populations are encouraged to keep their separate cultures. Anything too distinctly or traditionally Australian is associated with Australian history, which is too white. Native Australian animals mostly live out in the bush, which is also too white. What interests people now is city-based culture, and that culture is Global.

    Replies: @HammerJack, @Bert, @AnotherDad, @Rob McX, @SunBakedSuburb, @anon

    I used to watch a show called Nothing to Declare about Australian customs staff and border control. Every episode, you’d see harmful illegal plants being brought into the country by Asians who always pretended they had no idea they were breaking the law.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    @Rob McX

    Rob, I'm pretty sure The Simpsons had the final word on Australian customs checks and invasive flora and fauna years before that reality show.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tWwopZu9Szo

  129. @Clyde
    Marina Bolotnikova --- This nitwit is way off base. The invasive species I hear about are insects that hitchhike into America via cargo shipments. Like so called murder hornets. Horticultural diseases that come in from Asia. Exotic reptiles and exotic pets that are released by their bored owners, who are done with them. Intentional releases, such as snake head fish, that Viets and NE Asians like fishing for. I have seen 4ft long snake head fish.

    I have never heard global warming being blamed for invasive species. Climate change panic is so done anyways. No average Joe cares about a climate something taking place some something 35 years in the maybe future. The globalist grifters have found the Covid_CCP panic to be a much more effective fear factor. It gets the sheeple herded much more effectively. Lots faster too!

    Replies: @TWS, @Anon

    The globalist grifters have found the Covid_CCP panic to be a much more effective fear factor. It gets the sheeple herded much more effectively. Lots faster too!

    The principal function of these scare tactics is to divert people’s attention away from the invasion of their countries (“immigration”).

    • Replies: @Chester
    @Anon

    The economy too. Covid is the cover story for going full Communist.

  130. @ic1000
    @iffen

    What's the IQ of the reader being targeted by Vox's editors? The article's content is entirely argument-by-analogy, or more exactly, stupid-argument-by-stupid-analogy.

    I'll believe that IQ 95+ Outer Party membership has taken the invasive-bad talking points to heart, once I've watched NBC Nightly News With Lester Holt report approvingly on Antifa's torching of WWF headquarters.

    tl;dr Marina Bolotnikova, Banita Subramaniam, and scholars looking askance at the influence of invasion biology and arguing that the field has a baked-in, nativist bias: "We are baizou, and proud of it. As the new the hostile elite, we aim to displace you Core Americans. It's crucially important to note that you aren't welcome in our circles -- thus, since we don't know you, we don't hate you personally. So, study our tortured metaphors, tweet your agreement, and otherwise shut up. Thanks!"

    Replies: @iffen

    What’s the IQ of the reader being targeted by Vox‘s editors?

    Supposedly the above average, college educated slice. I keep reading that leftists are higher IQ than those on the right, but obviously there is a cline on both sides.

  131. Anon[198] • Disclaimer says:
    @Bert
    @Anonymous

    Jews never troll. They are dead serious and relentless. They never miss an angle by which they could undermine European Caucasians.

    Letter to the Editor [of the Harvard Crimson]
    By Marina N. Bolotnikova
    October 6, 2014
    To the editor:

    As a Jew with a deep bond with the state of Israel, I was saddened and ashamed to watch as the Israeli army killed hundreds of Palestinian civilians in the Gaza Strip this summer, and even more so to witness the reactions of many in the Harvard community as students publicly grieved these injustices. ......
    I experienced a great deal of doubt before deciding to write this letter for fear of offending members of the Jewish community. It shouldn't have to be this way. I am not among a minority but a silent majority of progressive Jews growing increasingly uneasy with Israel's administration.

    https://www.thecrimson.com/article/2014/10/6/letter-israel-palestine-bolotnikova/

    Bolotnikova graduated in journalism from Harvard University.

    Replies: @slumber_j, @Anon

    As a Jew with a deep bond with the state of Israel, I was saddened and ashamed to watch as the Israeli army killed hundreds of Palestinian civilians in the Gaza Strip this summer, and even more so to witness the reactions of many in the Harvard community

    She deserves credit for taking a principled stand against the Jews’ invasion of Palestine.

    • Agree: Adam Smith
  132. @Wokechoke
    @Rob McX

    There's a limit to water. Even Malthus Critics know this.

    Replies: @Captain Tripps, @RonaldReagansLoveChildWithMadonna2

    Pick any resource. There is an upper limit. Arable (for agriculture) land; habitable (for people) land; copper; iron; nickel; water, etc., etc. Now, put the estimate of the total amount of that resource in the denominator, then put the total human population (excluding all other life) in the numerator. As the numerator grows, the amount of resource available per person shrinks (then add in all other life that compete for the resource too, though not much of an issue for items we humans use exclusively like minerals, fossil fuels and such). Of course, our smarts and technology can give us some extra marginal improvements in the denominator (i.e. fracking, recycling, fertilizers, etc.). Assuming unchecked reproduction, at some point too many humans will exhaust a given resource. Of course, the good news is, outside of Africa, population growth is stabilizing and/or shrinking.

    Maybe we can get to the asteroid belt and ameliorate some of our inorganic resource needs, including water, but that is still off in the future (if practicable) to make a difference. Of course the Moon is closer ,but poor in water content, which is a necessity to maintain life. Now Mars on the other hand….

  133. @Bragadocious
    Speaking of invasive species, at midnight tonight Barbados is "ditching" the British monarchy (BBC's word) in favor of a republican government.

    Now, one might say, who cares. But this is a big deal for the BBC--they're providing live coverage! The symbolism is profound. Anyone who rejects their monarchy, including an island about the size of three Costcos, probably goes on a list. Ask South Africa about how things went for them when they kicked the queen out in 1960.

    Replies: @Redneck farmer, @TyRade, @AnotherDad, @Jack D

    Ask South Africa about how things went for them when they kicked the queen out in 1960.

    Post hoc ergo propter hoc

    Correlation is not causation. Getting rid of the Queen is a symptom of the disease, not the cause.

    I heard someone from Barbados explaining the decision on the BBC. He gave two reasons:

    1. The Queen stands for the history of slavery and therefore is bad. Forgetting that without slavery he wouldn’t even BE in Barbados and wouldn’t even exist because his ancestors would have been castrated when sold into Arab slavery or eaten by another tribe or maybe worked to death in Brazil. The luckiest moment in his entire ancestry was when his ancestors ended up on a British slave ship.

    2. The second point was actually quite reasonable (but just try this out in the US and see what reaction you get): The head of state should look like her own people. The Queen doesn’t look like the average Bardabian and therefore isn’t qualified to be their head of state. Now apply this to Kamala.

    • Replies: @Bragadocious
    @Jack D

    LOL I think my point was misunderstood.

    It's not that South Africa should have remained in the Commonwealth and lost their way when they Brexited.

    It's that Britain wreaks revenge on countries that reject its monarch. As they did with South Africa from 1960 to the fall of apartheid, as they're doing with Barbados right now (claiming they're a Chinese pawn).

    Replies: @Obstinate Cymric

    , @MEH 0910
    @Jack D

    https://twitter.com/BBCWorld/status/1465616847722758144

    Replies: @Expletive Deleted

    , @Reg Cæsar
    @Jack D


    The head of state should look like her own people.
     
    This is why kingdoms are the best form of government, and empires the worst.

    Replies: @Jack D

  134. As a Russian Jewish immigrant, growing up in the American Jewish community’s day schools made me feel …

    https://forward.com/author/marina-bolotnikova/

    Every. Single. Time.

  135. Although I find the subject of the essay by this woman today wrong headed and almost childish, I didn’t associate it with the current “migrant’ situation.

    Modern humans are all of the same species. We can and do interbreed, have nearly exactly the same DNA, etc.

    To use a term like “demonize” to discuss animal/insect/etc. migrations pro or con is just silly and of course meant to be provocative. As some here think perhaps Woke virtue signaling.

    The benefits and costs of new species in new places is determined by objective factors, not analogies to human travel or migration.

    While we can be dismayed by the poor level of intelligent discourse on this subject, if you go back and look at say, 19th century commentary supposedly written by scientists or educated people, you will discover the same low level of intelligent thought. Back then of course much of it was based on theological concepts and interpretations.

    The same can be said of Woke journalism and Woke pseudo science as well. Neo Marxist balderdash has replaced any notion of the Divine in Wokedom.

    That is one interesting fact about Wokedom. The more “heritage religious” a place is, the less Woke it is. Believing in classical ideas of the Divine rules out belief in fuzzy incoherent notions of the “Divine” in racial scapegoating or Worship of the State as the ultimate arbitrator of enforcing divine Woke mandates of speech and behavior. You can fear God or Allah for your soul. Not the New York Times.

    Like all fake religions invented for private benefit and manipulation, Wokedom will soon fade. There is no “there” there. Eventually the Woke dummies will decide to leave their mountaintop when Salvation no longer seems imminent. It appeals only to Europeans and European Americans/Canadians. And of course the few cynical POC who grift from it.

    Cat and baby videos on YouTube will once again seem more fulfilling.

    • Replies: @acementhead
    @Muggles


    "Like all fake religions invented for private benefit and manipulation..."
     
    All religions are fake. There is no gaseous vertebrate up in the sky no matter what you call it/(it is called). All religions have always been used for the benefit of a few. Religion trains people to believe official lies.

    Replies: @Intelligent Dasein

    , @Stan Adams
    @Muggles


    Cat and baby videos on YouTube will once again seem more fulfilling
     
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=W85oD8FEF78
  136. We all know why this nutcase article is on VOX.

    Because how can “diversity is our strength” be that IF “invasive species” is a thing?

    I’ve been making this claim for over a decade.

    Edit: no, I did not read this shit.

  137. @MEH 0910
    @gabriel alberton

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_cockroach


    Despite their name, American cockroaches are native to Africa and the Middle East. They are believed to have been introduced to the Americas only from the 17th century AD onward as a result of human commercial patterns,[2] including the Atlantic slave trade.[5]
     

    Distribution

    Despite the name, none of the Periplaneta species is native to the Americas; P. americana was introduced to what is now the United States from Africa as early as 1625.[2] They are now common in tropical climates because human activity has extended the insects' range of habitation, and are virtually cosmopolitan in distribution as a result of global commerce.[2]
     

    Replies: @MEH 0910, @gabriel alberton

    Well pointed out, I should have added that. If only they were originally named Periplaneta africana (and Rattus asiaticus [rather than R. norvegicus] — already mentioned in this thread) their epithets would be closer to what might be the truth of their origins. And I’d enjoy calling them African cockroach (and Chinese rat).

  138. @ Jack D
    @ Peter Akuleyev

    “Duh!” – sez me as I wipe the drool off my chin. Last night around midnight local time I really couldn’t figure any logical reason for this linked topic by the pretty but gullible young woman.

    The comparison of assorted invasive alien species isn’t really a valid one for incoming humans. First of all, every last one of the two-legged immigrants crossing the borders are Homo sapiens.

    We all have four grandparents, eight great-grandparents, and so on. When the first of every one of those families came to this continent, he or she was an “invasive”. Even the American Indians when they became the first humans in North and/or South America.

    When the Europeans arrived they wanted the land, and they wanted slaves. The natives who couldn’t be enslaved were marked for murder. Not Christian, possessing something desirable, therefore not human. Same for the Negroes from Africa. The Whites denied their humanity because it was both convenient and profitable to do so. Never mind that even two-three hundred years ago it was obvious they were as much “people” as anyone else. The hundreds of millions of rapes and the production of lighter skinned slave children was proof enough of that.

    Today in 2021 the situation of immigrant humans is different. This time the “people” who are already resident are trying to protect their standard of living from an even steeper decline. Only this time they’ve reversed their position on “immigration”. Before they kidnapped people who were brought to this continent for forced unpaid labor. Now they work to refuse entry to free humans who want to come to the US to compete for the jobs which remain here.

    I submit that there is no possible defense for the first situation. Slavery was a pure evil, and so is the continuing celebration of the Slavers and their heroic defenders like Lee and Jefferson and Jackson.

    But I stand with the “anti-” bunch regarding open borders. The same Capitalism forces who did slavery now want to swamp the US (and recently, Europe) with desperate immigrants who will be used to break Unions, lower wages, and destroy workplace safety regulations.

    Marina Bolotnikova isn’t actually an idiot, but she can be fairly accused of being a clueless airhead on this particular issue. Unfortunately so can a huge number of people who read only the Neocon York Times and the Warmongering Post. These people have fishooks through their lips exactly the same way as the citizens whose TVs are locked on Fox news.

    Believing Hillary Clinton is a heroic goddess is every bit as stupid as thinking Donald Trump is the second coming of Jesus. Both are pond scum of the first degree, but their respective tribal followers are blind to all that.

    Illegal immigrants are as human as you or I. When they arrive here, feed them, house them, then promptly send them back to their country of origin. No need for the deliberate cruelty of the Trumpies. Illegals are NOT Palestinians, and there is no need at all for us to copy the ZioNazis in every way.

  139. European settlers: the ORIGINAL INVASIVE SPECIES in the Americas.

    • Disagree: tyrone
    • LOL: Mike Tre, Eric Novak
    • Replies: @Joe Paluka
    @anon

    Yes, who have created everything that makes your life easy and worth living.

    , @Anonymous
    @anon

    Mammoths, giant sloths and horses were hunted to extinction by the ancestors of American Indians.

    Replies: @Patriot

  140. @Rob McX
    @Emblematic

    I used to watch a show called Nothing to Declare about Australian customs staff and border control. Every episode, you'd see harmful illegal plants being brought into the country by Asians who always pretended they had no idea they were breaking the law.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

    Rob, I’m pretty sure The Simpsons had the final word on Australian customs checks and invasive flora and fauna years before that reality show.

    • Thanks: Rob McX
  141. @Patriot
    Many invasives wreak havoc on native ecosystems: Argentine fire ants, Japanese beetles, Dutch elm disease, emerald ash borer, West Nile Virus, Chinese Covid virus, Asian Tiger mosquito, zebra mussels, Oriental fruit moth, Gypsy moth, Indian meal moth, Med fruit fly, Chestnut blight, Cuban tree frogs, Brazilian pepper, and thousands others.

    Once these foreign invaders are here, they feed on or parasitize, or out breed the native species sometimes causing them to go extinct.

    Our beautiful native species have a right to survive, such as our majestic elms, chestnut and ash trees, which have been driven to near extinction by invasive foreign diseases.

    Some cause permanent costs, which will continue forever, year after year, weakening our economy and well-being, forever.

    It’s so much more efficient to simply keep them out.

    Replies: @Hannah Katz, @The Wild Geese Howard, @obwandiyag, @Bill Jones

    Don’t forget lanternflies and kudzu.

  142. @Jack D
    @Bragadocious


    Ask South Africa about how things went for them when they kicked the queen out in 1960.
     
    Post hoc ergo propter hoc

    Correlation is not causation. Getting rid of the Queen is a symptom of the disease, not the cause.

    I heard someone from Barbados explaining the decision on the BBC. He gave two reasons:

    1. The Queen stands for the history of slavery and therefore is bad. Forgetting that without slavery he wouldn't even BE in Barbados and wouldn't even exist because his ancestors would have been castrated when sold into Arab slavery or eaten by another tribe or maybe worked to death in Brazil. The luckiest moment in his entire ancestry was when his ancestors ended up on a British slave ship.

    2. The second point was actually quite reasonable (but just try this out in the US and see what reaction you get): The head of state should look like her own people. The Queen doesn't look like the average Bardabian and therefore isn't qualified to be their head of state. Now apply this to Kamala.

    Replies: @Bragadocious, @MEH 0910, @Reg Cæsar

    LOL I think my point was misunderstood.

    It’s not that South Africa should have remained in the Commonwealth and lost their way when they Brexited.

    It’s that Britain wreaks revenge on countries that reject its monarch. As they did with South Africa from 1960 to the fall of apartheid, as they’re doing with Barbados right now (claiming they’re a Chinese pawn).

    • Replies: @Obstinate Cymric
    @Bragadocious

    "Britain wreaks revenge on countries that reject its monarch"

    India and Pakistan rejected the UK monarchy, are colonising the UK, and Pakistanis are heavily involved with the rape of British girls. So I'm not at all sure you are right about this. Seems more the other way round.

    https://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/news/19748625.bradford-people-among-42-charged-child-sex-offences/

    Replies: @Bragadocious

  143. @Jack D
    @Bragadocious


    Ask South Africa about how things went for them when they kicked the queen out in 1960.
     
    Post hoc ergo propter hoc

    Correlation is not causation. Getting rid of the Queen is a symptom of the disease, not the cause.

    I heard someone from Barbados explaining the decision on the BBC. He gave two reasons:

    1. The Queen stands for the history of slavery and therefore is bad. Forgetting that without slavery he wouldn't even BE in Barbados and wouldn't even exist because his ancestors would have been castrated when sold into Arab slavery or eaten by another tribe or maybe worked to death in Brazil. The luckiest moment in his entire ancestry was when his ancestors ended up on a British slave ship.

    2. The second point was actually quite reasonable (but just try this out in the US and see what reaction you get): The head of state should look like her own people. The Queen doesn't look like the average Bardabian and therefore isn't qualified to be their head of state. Now apply this to Kamala.

    Replies: @Bragadocious, @MEH 0910, @Reg Cæsar

    • Replies: @Expletive Deleted
    @MEH 0910

    Shine on you crazy diamond.
    Sid! Thou should'st be living at this hour ..

  144. Naturally these strong, confident people confident in their strong arguments feel a great need to attack everything remotely related to the axe they have to grind.

    See also: “When your handler orders you to say something nice, but you have no idea what to say.” Do we have any evidence these arguments are being made in good faith? E.g. does the author allow weeds to grow wild in their lawn? Do they use a mower? Do they live in an immigrant-heavy neighbourhood, or are they planning to move to one? I’ma go ahead and assume there is no such evidence.

  145. @Emblematic
    The most desired areas in Australian cities are they old ones filled with introduced northern hemisphere trees. The introduced trees are deciduous so provide thick canopies of shade in Australia's brutally hot summers, but then shed their leaves in the autumn and let through the beautiful winter sun.

    The native eucalpytus trees provide less shade in summer, and being evergreen they keep their leaves on year round and block the winter sun.

    Most people also consider the northern hemisphere trees to be more beautiful. But newer suburbs usually have native trees.

    All commercially grown plants and and animals on Australian farms are introduced from somewhere else. You can buy kangaroo meat in the supermarket but they're harvested from the wild.

    Introduced foxes and cats have devastated small native marsupials. Rabbits; canetoads; the list of introduced animals that harm the native ecosystem goes on and on.

    But here's a funny thing. From roughly the 1970s onward there had developed a very heavy emphasis on trying to save native species, but in this century that has become of less interest to people.

    The more multi-racial Australia has become, the less people seem to care about endangered Australian wildlife. When Australia had a White Australia policy the official attitude was "we have to become a new unified nation and make ourselves at home in this strange land". And when environmentalism came in that was added to this idea.

    But now there is no national identity except 'diversity' and the non-white populations are encouraged to keep their separate cultures. Anything too distinctly or traditionally Australian is associated with Australian history, which is too white. Native Australian animals mostly live out in the bush, which is also too white. What interests people now is city-based culture, and that culture is Global.

    Replies: @HammerJack, @Bert, @AnotherDad, @Rob McX, @SunBakedSuburb, @anon

    “The more multi-racial Australia has become, the less people seem to care about endangered Australian wildlife.”

    IMO you limeys are too easy on your wildlife. Some of it needs to be endangered. The Funnel Web problem has not been dealt with adequately. Your Sheilas are entering into cross-species relationships at record rates because you Aussie limeys cannot protect them from wildlife gone amok. Your government has gone full totalitarian over a germ yet refuse to tackle the Funnel Web problem. The result? Las Vegas chapels see record business with your Sheilas and black American men.

  146. Dumb Vox take.

    Here in Europe this is covered in the Bern Convention: «It is the only regional Convention of its kind worldwide, and aims to conserve wild flora and fauna and their natural habitats, as well as to promote European co-operation in this field. The treaty also takes account of the impact that other policies may have on natural heritage and recognises the intrinsic value of wild flora and fauna, which needs to be preserved and passed to future generations.»

    Wild animals have more rights to these lands than us chronic Europeans.

  147. @Jack D
    OT - Jussie Smollett's trial started today.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2021/11/29/arts/television/jussie-smollett-trial.html?searchResultPosition=1

    Story appears on p.20 of the print newspaper, so buried as deeply as possible.

    Frankly, unzites are not eager to see this highlighted either because it conflicts with their narrative that Smollett was let go scot free.


    He was, at first, but then a special prosecutor was appointed. The way things work in corrupt big cities is that things like this have to be taken out of local hands. In Philly, a corrupt local union official was just convicted by a Federal jury - not in a million years would anyone from the city touch this case because they were all in on his corruption. After he was convicted, the mayor praised him. His brother sits on the PA Supreme Ct.

    Replies: @HammerJack, @JMcG, @Brutusale, @J.Ross

    >their narrative that he was let go scot free

    He was. The DA originally didn’t want to press charges. That essentially changed because of the outcry.

  148. @Patriot
    Many invasives wreak havoc on native ecosystems: Argentine fire ants, Japanese beetles, Dutch elm disease, emerald ash borer, West Nile Virus, Chinese Covid virus, Asian Tiger mosquito, zebra mussels, Oriental fruit moth, Gypsy moth, Indian meal moth, Med fruit fly, Chestnut blight, Cuban tree frogs, Brazilian pepper, and thousands others.

    Once these foreign invaders are here, they feed on or parasitize, or out breed the native species sometimes causing them to go extinct.

    Our beautiful native species have a right to survive, such as our majestic elms, chestnut and ash trees, which have been driven to near extinction by invasive foreign diseases.

    Some cause permanent costs, which will continue forever, year after year, weakening our economy and well-being, forever.

    It’s so much more efficient to simply keep them out.

    Replies: @Hannah Katz, @The Wild Geese Howard, @obwandiyag, @Bill Jones

    Many invasives wreak havoc on native ecosystems:

    Jews, Somalis, Colombians… the list is endless.

  149. @Intelligent Dasein
    @Achmed E. Newman


    It’s pretty crazy, though, this concept of basing a scientific opinion on the similar wording in your field to something political.
     
    It is my impression that many journalists these days are just grown-up versions of the kind of smart-aleck high school kids who think that sheer verbal dexterity and blunderbuss, combined with a smattering of de rigueur political sentiment, will so bowl over the teacher that they can write an 'A' paper on any subject, despite not knowing anything about it. Consequently, they rarely do any real research or any real work; and their hastily compiled essays, written in a pharmaceutical fog the night before due date, are a a type of sadomasochistic ritual by which they think to inflict their power upon a global peanut gallery. Once you learn to spot this kind of thing, you can see it popping up all over the place, like hunting for mushrooms in a forest.

    For a perfect (and perfectly nauseating) example, check out the thoroughly crappy obituary of Glenn Frey by Sarah Larson in The New Yorker. Seldom has anything been written from such utter depths of cluelessness by a person more obviously in love with the sound of her own voice. Take a glance to see what I mean; it will be educational.

    Replies: @usNthem, @Paleo Liberal, @Jack D, @Reg Cæsar, @Ron Mexico, @Achmed E. Newman, @Reg Cæsar

    You’re right – I got about halfway through and couldn’t take anymore.

  150. @Intelligent Dasein
    @Achmed E. Newman


    It’s pretty crazy, though, this concept of basing a scientific opinion on the similar wording in your field to something political.
     
    It is my impression that many journalists these days are just grown-up versions of the kind of smart-aleck high school kids who think that sheer verbal dexterity and blunderbuss, combined with a smattering of de rigueur political sentiment, will so bowl over the teacher that they can write an 'A' paper on any subject, despite not knowing anything about it. Consequently, they rarely do any real research or any real work; and their hastily compiled essays, written in a pharmaceutical fog the night before due date, are a a type of sadomasochistic ritual by which they think to inflict their power upon a global peanut gallery. Once you learn to spot this kind of thing, you can see it popping up all over the place, like hunting for mushrooms in a forest.

    For a perfect (and perfectly nauseating) example, check out the thoroughly crappy obituary of Glenn Frey by Sarah Larson in The New Yorker. Seldom has anything been written from such utter depths of cluelessness by a person more obviously in love with the sound of her own voice. Take a glance to see what I mean; it will be educational.

    Replies: @usNthem, @Paleo Liberal, @Jack D, @Reg Cæsar, @Ron Mexico, @Achmed E. Newman, @Reg Cæsar

    I spent 5 minutes of my life I can never get back reading that.

    You are correct. Total self-indulgence. Nothing about the life and contributions of the dear departed. Just using the death of a famous person for navel gazing.

    There are several reasons I don’t trust journalists.

    Just suffice it to say I was once completely misquoted in a front page New York Times article. As in they had me saying the exact opposite of what I really said in order to bolster the b*tchiness of the woman who interviewed me.

  151. Our rulers would rather see the world dead but for algae and cockroaches than admit that mass-importation of invasive aliens is bad idea.

  152. @Boomthorkell
    Ideology aside (which is absolutely important, but already discussed and readily obvious), is this also a part of a wider attempt by the system to undo years of (sensible) environmentalist brainwashing and indoctrination, train the people to be even further an "indoors" creature as the ecosystem around them continues an onwards death spiral?

    Global Warming is both wrong and a lie (like earlier claims of Global Cooling, as the weather simply moves in cycles), but what's absolutely true is the untold destruction of wildlife hierarchies and spaces for improperly managed development. This article is probably prepping GoodWhites and Loyal Leftists to accept further destruction rather than going all "Uppity Eco-Terrorist." I guess much like how they took America's Left and got them to join hands with the Alphabet Soup State.

    Replies: @Bert, @Bill Jones

    what’s absolutely true is the untold destruction of wildlife hierarchies and spaces for improperly managed development.

    And for that you can blame Whitie: without the drugs and food and crop technologies sent to the third world the global population would be 3 billion lighter.

    • Replies: @Boomthorkell
    @Bill Jones

    Oh, trust me, I do.

    I mean, it's not like pre-industrial practices in Africa were very respectful of the environment, but their is something absolutely Hellish about the combination of modern "best practices" with a people most poorly equipped (spiritually and mentally) to carry them out. This isn't even to knock Africans. It's just that dumping tech on any population that isn't somewhat accustomed to its proper use is going to be deadly. Not to mention the damage of course a lot of our industrialized agriculture is doing here. Somehow "feeding the world with shitty corn and tortured park" just doesn't seem like the civilization selling point it was meant to be. Still, an accomplishment is an accomplishment.

    Having said all that, Africa would certainly be better off it was less dependent on Western "largess" (namely in that all that largess keeps Africa in a state of near permanent servitude). That and of course upper class whites keep importing blacks . Holy Christ, it's absurd. At least the Arabs, Indians and Chinese did it right when they brought slaves from the Dark Continent (not making them sizeable, self-replicating minorities).

    , @John Johnson
    @Bill Jones

    And for that you can blame Whitie: without the drugs and food and crop technologies sent to the third world the global population would be 3 billion lighter.

    This is true but we also have White leaders that have bought into Wakanda theory and believe that just a few hundred billion more in food/tech/crop subsidies should do it.

  153. @Jack D
    @Pericles

    One theory is that Zemmour is leaking these stories about himself to make him appear more virile and appealing to voters. Women especially find men who are wanted by other women as appealing (and shun men who are shunned by other women).

    Otherwise Zemmour is rather repulsive looking. He is the rare Jew who actually looks like a Nazi caricature of a Jew.

    A Jew who is the head of the right wing - an Unzite's head could explode at the thought.

    Replies: @Mr. Anon, @Boomthorkell, @IHTG, @Reg Cæsar, @Ghost of Bull Moose

    His mistress is Jewish as well.

  154. The insanity that has taken hold with this whole invasive species nonsense is especially demonstrated in the obsessive war against the Japanese Knotweed. Laws have been passed by higher governments that force lower governments to spray carcinogenic herbicides like Paraquat and Glysophate (Roundup) to kill Japanese Knotweed wherever it grows. Flimsy excuses are given for this insanity: such as it destroys wetlands, it chokes other native plants out etc. The environment in North America has been changed so radically by all the plants that have been brought in from Eurasia, that we wouldn’t even recognize the original environment if we were sent back 300 years. Many Eurasian plants have been imported and are now considered part of the environment. In my favorite blackberry patch, where I like to pick two Eurasian varieties, Evergreen Blackberry and Himalayan Blackberry, I noticed signs from the city saying that they were spraying Roundup to kill the “invasive species” Japanese Knotweed which I had never noticed before. The Japanese Knotweed being almost invisible but obviously keeping legislators from sleeping at night. They’re all invasive species idiots! I contacted the city about the foolishness of spraying Roundup around where many people pick their blackberries and the lame answer was that the Roundup is safe. I mentioned that how can it be safe when the manufacturer, Monsanto (now owned by Bayer) has set up a 20 billion dollar compensation fund to compensate people who have come down with cancer due to working with the herbicide. There’s no arguing with imbeciles in government. Needless to say, I didn’t do a whole lot of berry picking there any more.

  155. @Welshman
    In the U.K. the debate is about an "invasive" grey (American!) squirrel eliminating the native red squirrel. I wondered how long until such an article came out.

    Replies: @Joe Paluka

    The problem started in WW2, when the favorite saying when describing the American GI’s stationed there was that they were overpaid, oversexed and over here! The Americans are still occupying Britain, only this time they have busy grey tails.

  156. OT: Twitter’s US national news sidebar – 54 minutes ago

    The Oakland County Sheriff’s office said that a student was taken into custody after a fatal shooting involving a handgun occurred at Oxford High School in Oxford Township, MI on Tuesday. Local authorities confirmed that three students were fatally shot and six others, including a teacher, were injured.

    Three dead is high. Knowing only what’s there (where’s Oxford?), and bearing Sailer’s Law in mind, I’m going to guess… White.

    • Replies: @Mike_from_SGV
    @ic1000

    From Wikipedia, describing the town where the high school is:

    "The racial makeup of [Oxford Township, Michigan] was 96.83% White, 0.45% African American..."

    The town is described as 45 miles from Detroit.
    So this crime might not be memory-holed as fast as the Waukesha terrorist attack.

    , @Ron Mexico
    @ic1000

    Oxford, Oakland Cty, most definitely White

  157. @Wokechoke
    @Rob McX

    There's a limit to water. Even Malthus Critics know this.

    Replies: @Captain Tripps, @RonaldReagansLoveChildWithMadonna2

    “limit to water”

    I assume you have seen a picture of Earth from space and know what all that blue-green stuff is. But maybe you didn’t know about this technology? http://thearubahouse.com/drinking_water.html

  158. @Muggles
    Although I find the subject of the essay by this woman today wrong headed and almost childish, I didn't associate it with the current "migrant' situation.

    Modern humans are all of the same species. We can and do interbreed, have nearly exactly the same DNA, etc.

    To use a term like "demonize" to discuss animal/insect/etc. migrations pro or con is just silly and of course meant to be provocative. As some here think perhaps Woke virtue signaling.

    The benefits and costs of new species in new places is determined by objective factors, not analogies to human travel or migration.

    While we can be dismayed by the poor level of intelligent discourse on this subject, if you go back and look at say, 19th century commentary supposedly written by scientists or educated people, you will discover the same low level of intelligent thought. Back then of course much of it was based on theological concepts and interpretations.

    The same can be said of Woke journalism and Woke pseudo science as well. Neo Marxist balderdash has replaced any notion of the Divine in Wokedom.

    That is one interesting fact about Wokedom. The more "heritage religious" a place is, the less Woke it is. Believing in classical ideas of the Divine rules out belief in fuzzy incoherent notions of the "Divine" in racial scapegoating or Worship of the State as the ultimate arbitrator of enforcing divine Woke mandates of speech and behavior. You can fear God or Allah for your soul. Not the New York Times.

    Like all fake religions invented for private benefit and manipulation, Wokedom will soon fade. There is no "there" there. Eventually the Woke dummies will decide to leave their mountaintop when Salvation no longer seems imminent. It appeals only to Europeans and European Americans/Canadians. And of course the few cynical POC who grift from it.

    Cat and baby videos on YouTube will once again seem more fulfilling.

    Replies: @acementhead, @Stan Adams

    “Like all fake religions invented for private benefit and manipulation…”

    All religions are fake. There is no gaseous vertebrate up in the sky no matter what you call it/(it is called). All religions have always been used for the benefit of a few. Religion trains people to believe official lies.

    • Replies: @Intelligent Dasein
    @acementhead


    All religions are fake. There is no gaseous vertebrate up in the sky no matter what you call it/(it is called).
     
    There is no religion that asserts any such thing. If you understood anything about religion, you would know that by now.

    God does exist. You can prove this to yourself without much difficulty, since it mostly runs parallel to the cogito argument that proves that you yourself exist, and which certainly cannot be doubted.

    I think, therefore I am.
    "I am" means that I exist.
    If I exist, then there is a being.
    If there is a being, there is a quality Being itself.
    Being itself has no cause, but it exists.
    Ergo, there exists an uncaused cause.

    If anything exists at all, then there must be an ipsum esse subsistens---and that is what is meant by God. The argument can only be gainsaid; it cannot be refuted. You might as well try to refute the existence of yourself. Your de re act of refutation gives the lie to the de dicto meaning of your words.

    This is the starting point for religion and it is entirely rational.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

  159. @Alec Leamas (working from home)
    @Bill P


    Theyre much plenty mad where I live over the European green crab:
     
    In the Northeast/Mid Atlantic fishermen use Green Crab halves as bait for Tautog. I think they're shipped into tackle shops from Maine. The Asian shore crab - also used as bait for Tautog - is pretty well established down here. You just turn over a rock at low tide on the back bay shores and you'll find dozens at a time.

    Maybe we should send you some Tautog to eat the crabs? What could go wrong?

    Replies: @Bill P

    The green crabs are not as strong here as they could be because our rock crabs eat them when they venture too far from the estuarine environments that shelter them. I think the Lummi are worried because they prey on shellfish in the mudflats at the mouth of the Nooksack.

    BTW, it’s funny how you guys’ fish seem so strange to me despite my having spent all my life within a couple miles of seafood-filled saltchuck. Tautog, blue crabs, lobsters — we don’t have any of that.

  160. @TWS
    @Clyde

    Climate change causes heart problems in newborns. Stay with the times.

    Replies: @tyrone

    Does it cause problems with baloney production?…..apparently not.

    • Replies: @TWS
    @tyrone

    On the contrary, it seems to be a requisite.

  161. @Bert
    @MEH 0910

    Crosby's book breaks no new ground. It merely retells a long-known story. The only question that arises from the success of European expansion is why Sub-Saharan Africans did not colonize tropical India which was much closer to them than the Americas were to Europeans. 200,000 years is a long time to procrastinate about doing something important.

    https://altonalyce.blogspot.com/2019/11/world-map-tropic-of-cancer.html

    Replies: @Corvinus

    “why Sub-Saharan Africans did not colonize tropical India which was much closer to them than the Americas were to Europeans“

    That was addressed in Jared Diamond’s book.

    • Replies: @John Johnson
    @Corvinus

    That was addressed in Jared Diamond’s book.

    That book is a giant load of left-wing BS.

    The guy is a dedicated socialist and won't debate his own theories.

    Guns/Germs exists to promote race denial and White guilt in college students.

    The Bantu had cattle 1500 years ago. That is when Germans were in primitive tribes. So why didn't Bantu countries develop the rocket?

    His whole book falls apart when applied to basic history of the last 2000 years. He relies on public school indoctrination of his readers.

    Replies: @Alden

    , @Reg Cæsar
    @Corvinus


    That was addressed in Jared Diamond’s book.
     
    That was [fin]essed in Jared Diamond’s book.

    Replies: @Corvinus

    , @Anonymous
    @Corvinus


    That was addressed in Jared Diamond’s book.
     
    Oh, yes!

    I also remember quite distinctly a chapter on why Africans had failed to discover Madagascar, in his magnum opus, "Guns, Germs, and Collectively Low IQ".

    , @Mr. Anon
    @Corvinus


    That was addressed in Jared Diamond’s book.
     
    No that was papered over and avoided in Jared Diamond's book, which was written to provide an alternative straw-grasping justification for avoiding thinking about actual human bio-diversity. It was hogwash. But I guess that witless boobs like you bought it.
  162. @Zachary Smith
    Really strange stuff. The young woman is a recent graduate of Harvard with a BA in Slavic Languages, etc. If Google can be trusted, she is Jewish and from Russia.

    No published books I could find, and probably no serious scholarly articles either. Her twitter site hypes a book about Invasives, and she made a remark there of her desire to write about feral hogs.

    Would she love the Burmese pythons in Florida? Does she embrace black rats? Kudzu? The brown snakes of Guam? The rabbits of Australia? Fire ants are moving North. Will the Harvard graduate welcome those fire ants when they arrive at wherever she lives?

    Why is Mr. Sailer hyping this stuff? Is he a fan of Marina Bolotnikova's beliefs? A relative?

    Nothing at all is clear here.

    I'm on the other side of this issue, having recently spent too many thousands of dollars removing dead Ash trees here. So I'm not going to play kissy-face with the invasive Emerald Ash Borer.

    Personally I believe Ms. Bolotnikova should stick with topics she better understands - Slavic Languages, maybe.

    Replies: @Alfa158, @Reg Cæsar, @Bardon Kaldian, @Jack D, @Peter Akuleyev, @The Wild Geese Howard, @Brutusale, @Adam Smith, @Eric Novak

    If Google can be trusted, she is Jewish and from Russia.

    Apparently, that is indeed the case…

    As Russian Jews, We Are Characters in Someone Else’s Story
    By Marina Bolotnikova

  163. @Reg Cæsar
    @Achmed E. Newman


    The name “Ogden” is not written elsewhere in the excerpt, but I’m gonna guess she is a woman...
     
    https://www.azquotes.com/picture-quotes/quote-women-would-rather-be-right-than-reasonable-ogden-nash-77-37-90.jpg

    Replies: @John Johnson, @Rosie

    4 words you never say to your wife:

    I told you so.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @John Johnson


    4 words you never say to your wife:

    I told you so.
     
    https://i.etsystatic.com/7461952/r/il/273882/802821942/il_794xN.802821942_apq9.jpg

    Replies: @Buzz Mohawk

  164. @Corvinus
    @Bert

    “why Sub-Saharan Africans did not colonize tropical India which was much closer to them than the Americas were to Europeans“

    That was addressed in Jared Diamond’s book.

    Replies: @John Johnson, @Reg Cæsar, @Anonymous, @Mr. Anon

    That was addressed in Jared Diamond’s book.

    That book is a giant load of left-wing BS.

    The guy is a dedicated socialist and won’t debate his own theories.

    Guns/Germs exists to promote race denial and White guilt in college students.

    The Bantu had cattle 1500 years ago. That is when Germans were in primitive tribes. So why didn’t Bantu countries develop the rocket?

    His whole book falls apart when applied to basic history of the last 2000 years. He relies on public school indoctrination of his readers.

    • Troll: Corvinus
    • Replies: @Alden
    @John Johnson

    The Germans had cattle 1,500 years ago
    and 4,000 years ago too. Jared Diamond is exactly what you said. A White hating liberal liar. I remember something in one of his books about the Shoshone Indians who almost died off because of natural causes. Absolutely untrue. They were pushed west into Wyoming by the much larger population, more aggressive Sioux. And ran up against another Tribe can’t remember the name and couldn’t go further west. So the Shoshone were stuck between 2 more powerful tribes. And didn’t almost die off because of natural causes.

    I’m sure it’s possible to go through his books page by page and find a liberal lie in every paragraph.

    OT and horrible from Fox News. The Milwaukee County Criminal Court claims the transcript of the Nov 5 bail hearing of Darell Brooks is lost. Supposedly there was no court reporter present at the hearing. Just a recording was made. And 3 weeks after the hearing when a reporter requested it something happened and the recording must have erased itself.

    It’s unheard of for recording and transcripts to disappear 3 weeks after a hearing. Or disappear at all. The whole of Wisconsin must be owned by Satan and Soros LLC

  165. @Intelligent Dasein
    @Achmed E. Newman


    It’s pretty crazy, though, this concept of basing a scientific opinion on the similar wording in your field to something political.
     
    It is my impression that many journalists these days are just grown-up versions of the kind of smart-aleck high school kids who think that sheer verbal dexterity and blunderbuss, combined with a smattering of de rigueur political sentiment, will so bowl over the teacher that they can write an 'A' paper on any subject, despite not knowing anything about it. Consequently, they rarely do any real research or any real work; and their hastily compiled essays, written in a pharmaceutical fog the night before due date, are a a type of sadomasochistic ritual by which they think to inflict their power upon a global peanut gallery. Once you learn to spot this kind of thing, you can see it popping up all over the place, like hunting for mushrooms in a forest.

    For a perfect (and perfectly nauseating) example, check out the thoroughly crappy obituary of Glenn Frey by Sarah Larson in The New Yorker. Seldom has anything been written from such utter depths of cluelessness by a person more obviously in love with the sound of her own voice. Take a glance to see what I mean; it will be educational.

    Replies: @usNthem, @Paleo Liberal, @Jack D, @Reg Cæsar, @Ron Mexico, @Achmed E. Newman, @Reg Cæsar

    On some level, in a world where facts and figures are only a click away:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glenn_Frey

    such solipsistic essays make sense. We all know who Glenn Frey was and by the time our copy of The New Yorker arrived in our mailbox, we would have known for a week or two that he was dead, but what did Glenn Frey mean to Sarah Larson? For that, we must read The New Yorker…..

  166. @Rob McX
    @RonaldReagansLoveChildWithMadonna

    If the environmentalists were honest, they'd definitely be closing the borders and trying to reduce the human population everywhere. Immigration just postpones the immigrants' countries need to control population. Here's another Vox hypocrite - "I’m an environmental journalist, but I never write about overpopulation. Here’s why. "In practice, where you find concern over 'population', you very often find racism, xenophobia, or eugenics lurking in the wings".

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Wokechoke, @tyrone, @Paperback Writer

    A lot of the old style environmentalists were race realists and have been retroactively canceled.

  167. @John Johnson
    This is a Harvard journalist????? What a friggin idiot.

    Someone please plant some Kudzu outside her house and drop off some Norway rats. Then she can tell us how great it is to have non-native species around.

    Idiot.

    Replies: @Sick 'n Tired, @Boy the way Glenn Miller played

    I live in S. Florida, invasive species here are pythons/boa constrictors in the Everglades eating all the indigenous animals like alligators and raccoons, iguanas everywhere, lionfish on our reefs eating everything that comes near them, and parrots/exotic birds that escaped when the aviary at the zoo blew down during hurricane Andrew. Not to mention various other bugs, lizards, and fish not native to the area and have no natural predators to keep their populations in control.

    • Replies: @Alden
    @Sick 'n Tired

    Has a Python Boa Constrictors Rights NGO been formed yet? Save the Pythons. Don’t be a bigoted biased Speciesist

    Replies: @Sick 'n Tired

  168. @Anon
    @Clyde


    The globalist grifters have found the Covid_CCP panic to be a much more effective fear factor. It gets the sheeple herded much more effectively. Lots faster too!
     
    The principal function of these scare tactics is to divert people’s attention away from the invasion of their countries (“immigration”).

    Replies: @Chester

    The economy too. Covid is the cover story for going full Communist.

  169. @RonaldReagansLoveChildWithMadonna
    The idea that climate change is anything more than an infintesimal contributor to species relocation is laughable.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    The idea that climate change is anything more than an infintesimal contributor to species relocation is laughable.

    You didn’t specify a time scale for this.

    • Replies: @RonaldReagansLoveChildWithMadonna2
    @Reg Cæsar

    oh, sorry, "climate change"

  170. Just like human populations, I’m more concerned about some invasive species than others. I’m kind of fond of the iguanas in Florida, but I’m scared to hell of the Asian giant hornets here in the Northwest. And there are others that don’t appear frightening, but can cause a lot of damage before you notice it (lionfish, nutria et al).

    Anyways, once again the Left must reconcile the conflicting logic of their narrative, which is usually accomplished by just shutting people up. My favorite example is migration to advanced Western economies and global warming. Think about how much more co2 emissions our 70+ million post-65-Act immigrants are producing compared to the amount if they had stayed poorer and in their native countries.

  171. @Anonymous
    The stark truth and reality of 'invasive species' is blatantly obvious to any English person who happens to possess a back yard.
    Grey squirrels - in massive numbers - infest not only the English countryside but are found in all suburban and indeed deeply urban environments. Their numbers are legion.

    Apparently, before year 1870 or so they simply *did not exist* anywhere on the British Isles, and never had done. A crank of a Victorian species fetishist let loose a few breeding pairs or so, for 'variety', and this is the end result.

    The other side of the story is that the indigenous red squirrel, an altogether cuter, milder, more gentle and timid animal, not possessing the rat like proclivities of the grey, has more or less vanished from England.

    There's a moral here, surely.

    Replies: @BigJimSportCamper, @dearieme, @Right_On

    I haven’t seen a red squirrel in England since I was a boy.

    First they came for Squirrel Nutkin, and I did not speak out—
    Because I was not a squirrel.

    Then they came for Jemima Puddle-Duck, and I did not speak out—
    . . .

    . . .
    . . .

    • Replies: @Obstinate Cymric
    @Right_On

    They still exist in the English Lake District.

    https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2017/jun/02/kill-them-the-volunteer-army-plotting-to-wipe-out-britains-grey-squirrels

    https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2017/feb/24/red-squirrels-5000-volunteers-sought-to-save-species-and-help-kill-invasive-greys


    Red squirrel conservation is not like most other efforts to save wildlife. It consists of exterminating one rival species: the grey squirrel. A few weeks after the death of her red squirrels, Bailey began to fight back on the side of the reds. She set up strategically placed feeders so that she could pull up quietly in her car, wind down her window and shoot the greys with an air rifle. Her husband got a gun and joined in. The first time I spoke to Bailey by telephone, I asked her how many squirrels she and Phil had eliminated since they began. She paused. I could hear the clicking of a mouse through a spreadsheet. “Four hundred and sixty nine,” she replied.

    When I visited her home a month later, I found a shrine to the red squirrel. The time was told by a red squirrel clock, the woodburner was adorned with cast-iron squirrels, Bailey’s study walls and carpet were squirrel-red; there were ornamental squirrels made by a local sculptor, a red squirrel jigsaw, goblet, boot brush, paperweight and piggybank. We drank tea from red squirrel mugs, and sat by a grey-coloured freezer. When I asked what was inside, Bailey opened the door and pulled out neatly butchered hunks of grey squirrel. “All our greys go in that freezer and we eat them. Not everyone’s cup of tea, but that’s what we do. Very healthy meat. Phil loves his squirrel curry, because he just loves curry. I love it in a stew, so it falls off the bone like pulled pork.” Bailey was collecting the pelts to make a grey waistcoat.
     
    Grey squirrel meat is dry and nutty (our hazel trees are picked clean by greys every autumn).

    Replies: @John Johnson, @Anonymous

  172. @anon
    European settlers: the ORIGINAL INVASIVE SPECIES in the Americas.

    Replies: @Joe Paluka, @Anonymous

    Yes, who have created everything that makes your life easy and worth living.

  173. Vox: It’s Time to Stop Demonizing “invasive” Species

    TED: It’s time to stop demonizing incest:

  174. @Corvinus
    @Bert

    “why Sub-Saharan Africans did not colonize tropical India which was much closer to them than the Americas were to Europeans“

    That was addressed in Jared Diamond’s book.

    Replies: @John Johnson, @Reg Cæsar, @Anonymous, @Mr. Anon

    That was addressed in Jared Diamond’s book.

    That was [fin]essed in Jared Diamond’s book.

    • LOL: John Johnson, Rob McX
    • Replies: @Corvinus
    @Reg Cæsar

    More like flexed.

  175. @Anon
    What do Native Americans have to say about this?

    (Actually, I don't really care.)

    Replies: @Bill P, @Tex, @Expletive Deleted

    Invoke the Lotka-Volterra equations. While smoking something toxic and waling on a crap tambourine.
    Before getting back into their nice heated Korean trucks and SUVs.

  176. @MEH 0910
    @Jack D

    https://twitter.com/BBCWorld/status/1465616847722758144

    Replies: @Expletive Deleted

    Shine on you crazy diamond.
    Sid! Thou should’st be living at this hour ..

  177. @Intelligent Dasein
    @Achmed E. Newman


    It’s pretty crazy, though, this concept of basing a scientific opinion on the similar wording in your field to something political.
     
    It is my impression that many journalists these days are just grown-up versions of the kind of smart-aleck high school kids who think that sheer verbal dexterity and blunderbuss, combined with a smattering of de rigueur political sentiment, will so bowl over the teacher that they can write an 'A' paper on any subject, despite not knowing anything about it. Consequently, they rarely do any real research or any real work; and their hastily compiled essays, written in a pharmaceutical fog the night before due date, are a a type of sadomasochistic ritual by which they think to inflict their power upon a global peanut gallery. Once you learn to spot this kind of thing, you can see it popping up all over the place, like hunting for mushrooms in a forest.

    For a perfect (and perfectly nauseating) example, check out the thoroughly crappy obituary of Glenn Frey by Sarah Larson in The New Yorker. Seldom has anything been written from such utter depths of cluelessness by a person more obviously in love with the sound of her own voice. Take a glance to see what I mean; it will be educational.

    Replies: @usNthem, @Paleo Liberal, @Jack D, @Reg Cæsar, @Ron Mexico, @Achmed E. Newman, @Reg Cæsar

    …check out the thoroughly crappy obituary of Glenn Frey by Sarah Larson in The New Yorker.

    Check out the respectful obituary of Glen Frey in the Toledo Blade:

    Glen R. Frey, 1940-2013: Ex-professor at BGSU taught climatology

  178. @Corvinus
    @Bert

    “why Sub-Saharan Africans did not colonize tropical India which was much closer to them than the Americas were to Europeans“

    That was addressed in Jared Diamond’s book.

    Replies: @John Johnson, @Reg Cæsar, @Anonymous, @Mr. Anon

    That was addressed in Jared Diamond’s book.

    Oh, yes!

    I also remember quite distinctly a chapter on why Africans had failed to discover Madagascar, in his magnum opus, “Guns, Germs, and Collectively Low IQ”.

    • LOL: Rob McX
  179. Where the Pilgrims an invasive species?

    What are their views on TerraForming? Say like Africa with Europeans?

    We are all just children of Nature.

  180. @John Johnson
    This is a Harvard journalist????? What a friggin idiot.

    Someone please plant some Kudzu outside her house and drop off some Norway rats. Then she can tell us how great it is to have non-native species around.

    Idiot.

    Replies: @Sick 'n Tired, @Boy the way Glenn Miller played

    Someone please plant some Kudzu outside her house and drop off some Norway rats. Then she can tell us how great it is to have non-native species around.

    Nah. Send her some multiflora rose, tearthumb vine, and some imported fire ants along with some Formosa termites.

    Idiot.

  181. @Emblematic
    The most desired areas in Australian cities are they old ones filled with introduced northern hemisphere trees. The introduced trees are deciduous so provide thick canopies of shade in Australia's brutally hot summers, but then shed their leaves in the autumn and let through the beautiful winter sun.

    The native eucalpytus trees provide less shade in summer, and being evergreen they keep their leaves on year round and block the winter sun.

    Most people also consider the northern hemisphere trees to be more beautiful. But newer suburbs usually have native trees.

    All commercially grown plants and and animals on Australian farms are introduced from somewhere else. You can buy kangaroo meat in the supermarket but they're harvested from the wild.

    Introduced foxes and cats have devastated small native marsupials. Rabbits; canetoads; the list of introduced animals that harm the native ecosystem goes on and on.

    But here's a funny thing. From roughly the 1970s onward there had developed a very heavy emphasis on trying to save native species, but in this century that has become of less interest to people.

    The more multi-racial Australia has become, the less people seem to care about endangered Australian wildlife. When Australia had a White Australia policy the official attitude was "we have to become a new unified nation and make ourselves at home in this strange land". And when environmentalism came in that was added to this idea.

    But now there is no national identity except 'diversity' and the non-white populations are encouraged to keep their separate cultures. Anything too distinctly or traditionally Australian is associated with Australian history, which is too white. Native Australian animals mostly live out in the bush, which is also too white. What interests people now is city-based culture, and that culture is Global.

    Replies: @HammerJack, @Bert, @AnotherDad, @Rob McX, @SunBakedSuburb, @anon

    Muslims and Chinese are by far the worst invasive species of Australia

    • Replies: @Patriot
    @anon

    Australians and New Zealanders are at this very moment converting their major cities into Chinese cities.

    Did Aussies and Kiwis ever get a chance to vote on their displacement?

    Was there ever a National ballot to decide:

    The government should replace Whites with Chinese in our major cities.

    YES. NO

    of course such a ballot never occurred, because the citizens would have said no. So, instead, the elites simply did it. Same in virtually all Western nations re: immigration.

    In the west, democracy is a sham. It’s a trick. We are allowed to only vote for things that don’t matter or for candidates who have already been pre-selected.

  182. @ic1000
    OT: Twitter's US national news sidebar - 54 minutes ago

    The Oakland County Sheriff’s office said that a student was taken into custody after a fatal shooting involving a handgun occurred at Oxford High School in Oxford Township, MI on Tuesday. Local authorities confirmed that three students were fatally shot and six others, including a teacher, were injured.
     
    Three dead is high. Knowing only what's there (where's Oxford?), and bearing Sailer's Law in mind, I'm going to guess... White.

    Replies: @Mike_from_SGV, @Ron Mexico

    From Wikipedia, describing the town where the high school is:

    “The racial makeup of [Oxford Township, Michigan] was 96.83% White, 0.45% African American…”

    The town is described as 45 miles from Detroit.
    So this crime might not be memory-holed as fast as the Waukesha terrorist attack.

  183. I posted about 6 months ago about the lunatic, high-speed, zigzagging, scary, Africanized bee that prevents me from relaxing in my yard in my dotage. It’s bad enough that I need to wear a gun-range sound suppressor because of the leafblowers. This is a new level of stress. This bee seems to have no interest in gathering pollen, as his industrious semi-colleagues do – – rather, being an uncontained menace is his thing. He senses the fear, I think. I must be strong.

    Update: Spraying “Essential oil” here and there on chairs, tree leaves, etc. has helped. It’s a concentrated pepperminty smell that somehow offends him.

    • Replies: @John Johnson
    @SafeNow

    I posted about 6 months ago about the lunatic, high-speed, zigzagging, scary, Africanized bee that prevents me from relaxing in my yard in my dotage.

    Put traps on the edges of the yard.

    , @Sick 'n Tired
    @SafeNow

    Get an electric fly swatter and cook his ass. Problem solved.

  184. @Zoos
    Arian Wallach is an asshole.

    Speaking of assholes, find below:

    Shootin' asshole feral hogs in Texas…

    https://youtu.be/8ir6LDRH7J0

    Electrofishing asshole invasive carp of the Mississippi…

    https://youtu.be/OJeteuTb4DY

    Killing the asshole beavers of Argentina…

    https://youtu.be/x5txwUE3gQs

    Replies: @Mike_from_SGV

    That’s impressive shooting from a moving/vibrating copter.

    • Replies: @Joe Stalin
    @Mike_from_SGV

    Supposedly, a magazine in the 1950s featured an M-1 Garand with a motor-driven trigger cam that was used for hunting from an airplane. Undoubtedly, the ATF would frown upon such contrivances today.

    , @Muggles
    @Mike_from_SGV


    That’s impressive shooting from a moving/vibrating copter.
     
    The US military did that a lot in Vietnam, and elsewhere. Of course automatic weapons normally.

    Feral hogs are such a menace in Texas that short of poisoning them you can kill them 24/7 with anything you can.
  185. @ic1000
    OT: Twitter's US national news sidebar - 54 minutes ago

    The Oakland County Sheriff’s office said that a student was taken into custody after a fatal shooting involving a handgun occurred at Oxford High School in Oxford Township, MI on Tuesday. Local authorities confirmed that three students were fatally shot and six others, including a teacher, were injured.
     
    Three dead is high. Knowing only what's there (where's Oxford?), and bearing Sailer's Law in mind, I'm going to guess... White.

    Replies: @Mike_from_SGV, @Ron Mexico

    Oxford, Oakland Cty, most definitely White

  186. @Intelligent Dasein
    @Achmed E. Newman


    It’s pretty crazy, though, this concept of basing a scientific opinion on the similar wording in your field to something political.
     
    It is my impression that many journalists these days are just grown-up versions of the kind of smart-aleck high school kids who think that sheer verbal dexterity and blunderbuss, combined with a smattering of de rigueur political sentiment, will so bowl over the teacher that they can write an 'A' paper on any subject, despite not knowing anything about it. Consequently, they rarely do any real research or any real work; and their hastily compiled essays, written in a pharmaceutical fog the night before due date, are a a type of sadomasochistic ritual by which they think to inflict their power upon a global peanut gallery. Once you learn to spot this kind of thing, you can see it popping up all over the place, like hunting for mushrooms in a forest.

    For a perfect (and perfectly nauseating) example, check out the thoroughly crappy obituary of Glenn Frey by Sarah Larson in The New Yorker. Seldom has anything been written from such utter depths of cluelessness by a person more obviously in love with the sound of her own voice. Take a glance to see what I mean; it will be educational.

    Replies: @usNthem, @Paleo Liberal, @Jack D, @Reg Cæsar, @Ron Mexico, @Achmed E. Newman, @Reg Cæsar

    Thanks for letting me read Sarah Larson’s rant about Glenn Frey. Female journalist…
    Mr. Glenn Frey, responsible for the #1 and #3 greatest selling albums in American History. Maybe she never received an invite to an Aspen party as she had hoped.
    “It’s your world now
    Use well the time
    Be part of something good
    Leave something good behind” 2007, Eagles

  187. @SafeNow
    I posted about 6 months ago about the lunatic, high-speed, zigzagging, scary, Africanized bee that prevents me from relaxing in my yard in my dotage. It’s bad enough that I need to wear a gun-range sound suppressor because of the leafblowers. This is a new level of stress. This bee seems to have no interest in gathering pollen, as his industrious semi-colleagues do - - rather, being an uncontained menace is his thing. He senses the fear, I think. I must be strong.

    Update: Spraying “Essential oil” here and there on chairs, tree leaves, etc. has helped. It’s a concentrated pepperminty smell that somehow offends him.

    Replies: @John Johnson, @Sick 'n Tired

    I posted about 6 months ago about the lunatic, high-speed, zigzagging, scary, Africanized bee that prevents me from relaxing in my yard in my dotage.

    Put traps on the edges of the yard.

  188. @Reg Cæsar
    @RonaldReagansLoveChildWithMadonna


    The idea that climate change is anything more than an infintesimal contributor to species relocation is laughable.
     
    You didn't specify a time scale for this.

    Replies: @RonaldReagansLoveChildWithMadonna2

    oh, sorry, “climate change”

  189. @Mike_from_SGV
    @Zoos

    That's impressive shooting from a moving/vibrating copter.

    Replies: @Joe Stalin, @Muggles

    Supposedly, a magazine in the 1950s featured an M-1 Garand with a motor-driven trigger cam that was used for hunting from an airplane. Undoubtedly, the ATF would frown upon such contrivances today.

  190. @TyRade
    @Bragadocious

    I think Barbados will join S Africa, and just about every former colony ditching even the symbolism of Her Majesty (aka 'civilisation') in generations of seller's remorse. It may be a tactical move, of course - fleeing the monarchy while the tree-hugger, slavery-knee-taker and all round ar$e Charles assumed the throne; who would not contemplate distancing oneself from that dipstick?

    Replies: @Bragadocious, @Alden, @Thea, @Anonymous

    My cynical opinion about Barbados splitting from the common wealth.

    The Barbados PTB were approached by the City Of London Saudi Kuwait Oman Dubai prince of Lichtenstein Satan& Soros LLC some major financial banking entity to split from the Commonwealth and become a major off shore banking refuge for the wealthiest people in the world.

    • Replies: @Lurker
    @Alden

    Barbados hasn't left the Commonwealth.

  191. @Intelligent Dasein
    @Achmed E. Newman


    It’s pretty crazy, though, this concept of basing a scientific opinion on the similar wording in your field to something political.
     
    It is my impression that many journalists these days are just grown-up versions of the kind of smart-aleck high school kids who think that sheer verbal dexterity and blunderbuss, combined with a smattering of de rigueur political sentiment, will so bowl over the teacher that they can write an 'A' paper on any subject, despite not knowing anything about it. Consequently, they rarely do any real research or any real work; and their hastily compiled essays, written in a pharmaceutical fog the night before due date, are a a type of sadomasochistic ritual by which they think to inflict their power upon a global peanut gallery. Once you learn to spot this kind of thing, you can see it popping up all over the place, like hunting for mushrooms in a forest.

    For a perfect (and perfectly nauseating) example, check out the thoroughly crappy obituary of Glenn Frey by Sarah Larson in The New Yorker. Seldom has anything been written from such utter depths of cluelessness by a person more obviously in love with the sound of her own voice. Take a glance to see what I mean; it will be educational.

    Replies: @usNthem, @Paleo Liberal, @Jack D, @Reg Cæsar, @Ron Mexico, @Achmed E. Newman, @Reg Cæsar

    I agree with you and your repliers, I.D. To add to P.L.’ s comment, I think it was plain laziness also. The writer just listened to a few songs or looked up the lyrics on-line. Then she wove them into her little complaint about how some of the songs piss her off due to slight political incorrectness. Yes, lady, Hotel California has been overplayed! So has that Liberty Mutual Emu commercial, but I know which one I’d rather have come on. They got these newfangled “skip” buttons now.

    The album Hotel California, along with the 4 albums made by with the still-country-rock sound (before Bernie Leadon left), and even The Long Run have plenty of obscure songs that are damn good. I could paste in a dozen that would floor that Atlantic author. Whether she’d admit it or not is another story …

    This one is just for fun!

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    @Achmed E. Newman

    OK, yeah, that was Don Henley.

    This one features Don Henley and Glen Frey singing:

    "Lay down your law books now, they're no damn good."

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o2wG4CpiA-A

    Replies: @Ron Mexico

  192. @Bert
    @Achmed E. Newman


    I respectfully suggest that Miss Bolotnikova get off her computer and do something more useful to her field, such as counting how many legs millipedes REALLY have. I don’t believe they have 1,000 legs on them any more than I believe that Global Climate Disruption™ claptrap.

    As an Invasive Russian, I’d have thought you’re better than this, Miss Bolotnikova.

     

    First, Bolotnikova is a journalist, not an ecologist. She has no credential by which to opine on ecosystem destruction by an invasive species, of which there are many examples.

    Second, Bolotnikova identifies as a Jew, not as a Russian. See my earlier comment for documentation.

    Replies: @Rosie

    Second, Bolotnikova identifies as a Jew, not as a Russian. See my earlier comment for documentation.

    Remember, Jewish women do as they do because they are women. Jewish men do as they do because they are Jews.

    Always.

    • Replies: @Boomthorkell
    @Rosie

    I suppose this makes sense.

    If this isn't sarcasm though, care to elaborate? I'm genuinely intrigued if the line of thought I've been going on after reading it is remotely connected to what you were thinking.

    If this is sarcasm...Ha ha, then I just went in assuming it wasn't, hoping for a more interesting talk.

    Replies: @Rosie

    , @Rob
    @Rosie

    Welcome back! Nice to have some diversity around here.

  193. @Achmed E. Newman
    @Intelligent Dasein

    I agree with you and your repliers, I.D. To add to P.L.' s comment, I think it was plain laziness also. The writer just listened to a few songs or looked up the lyrics on-line. Then she wove them into her little complaint about how some of the songs piss her off due to slight political incorrectness. Yes, lady, Hotel California has been overplayed! So has that Liberty Mutual Emu commercial, but I know which one I'd rather have come on. They got these newfangled "skip" buttons now.

    The album Hotel California, along with the 4 albums made by with the still-country-rock sound (before Bernie Leadon left), and even The Long Run have plenty of obscure songs that are damn good. I could paste in a dozen that would floor that Atlantic author. Whether she'd admit it or not is another story ...

    This one is just for fun!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bEiDPGoMhMw

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

    OK, yeah, that was Don Henley.

    This one features Don Henley and Glen Frey singing:

    “Lay down your law books now, they’re no damn good.”

    • Replies: @Ron Mexico
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Play the 3 (D-D, Desperado, and D-D / Desperado Reprise) together. "4 men ride out and only 3 ride back"

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

  194. @Rosie
    @Bert


    Second, Bolotnikova identifies as a Jew, not as a Russian. See my earlier comment for documentation.
     
    Remember, Jewish women do as they do because they are women. Jewish men do as they do because they are Jews.

    Always.

    Replies: @Boomthorkell, @Rob

    I suppose this makes sense.

    If this isn’t sarcasm though, care to elaborate? I’m genuinely intrigued if the line of thought I’ve been going on after reading it is remotely connected to what you were thinking.

    If this is sarcasm…Ha ha, then I just went in assuming it wasn’t, hoping for a more interesting talk.

    • Replies: @Rosie
    @Boomthorkell


    If this isn’t sarcasm though, care to elaborate?
     
    It's sarcasm.

    Replies: @Boomthorkell

  195. @Bill Jones
    @Boomthorkell


    what’s absolutely true is the untold destruction of wildlife hierarchies and spaces for improperly managed development.
     
    And for that you can blame Whitie: without the drugs and food and crop technologies sent to the third world the global population would be 3 billion lighter.

    Replies: @Boomthorkell, @John Johnson

    Oh, trust me, I do.

    I mean, it’s not like pre-industrial practices in Africa were very respectful of the environment, but their is something absolutely Hellish about the combination of modern “best practices” with a people most poorly equipped (spiritually and mentally) to carry them out. This isn’t even to knock Africans. It’s just that dumping tech on any population that isn’t somewhat accustomed to its proper use is going to be deadly. Not to mention the damage of course a lot of our industrialized agriculture is doing here. Somehow “feeding the world with shitty corn and tortured park” just doesn’t seem like the civilization selling point it was meant to be. Still, an accomplishment is an accomplishment.

    Having said all that, Africa would certainly be better off it was less dependent on Western “largess” (namely in that all that largess keeps Africa in a state of near permanent servitude). That and of course upper class whites keep importing blacks . Holy Christ, it’s absurd. At least the Arabs, Indians and Chinese did it right when they brought slaves from the Dark Continent (not making them sizeable, self-replicating minorities).

  196. @Jack D
    @Pericles

    One theory is that Zemmour is leaking these stories about himself to make him appear more virile and appealing to voters. Women especially find men who are wanted by other women as appealing (and shun men who are shunned by other women).

    Otherwise Zemmour is rather repulsive looking. He is the rare Jew who actually looks like a Nazi caricature of a Jew.

    A Jew who is the head of the right wing - an Unzite's head could explode at the thought.

    Replies: @Mr. Anon, @Boomthorkell, @IHTG, @Reg Cæsar, @Ghost of Bull Moose

    He is the rare Jew who actually looks like a Nazi caricature of a Jew.

    Perhaps he evokes memories of Serge Gainsbourg.


    Some stubble and a Gitane would help. Along with an uncomfortable daughter.

  197. A lot of the old style environmentalists were race realists and have been retroactively canceled.

    The diversity agenda overrides every traditional Leftist cause: environmentalism, women’s rights, worker’s rights, and, most recently, free speech.

    Unless something miraculous happens, we are now to understand that corporations are “persons,” whose First Amendment rights are so sacrosanct that they must be allowed to bribe politicians. White people, on the other hand, do not have the right to free speech. Of the hundreds of White male billionaires in the world, not a single one would pony up one red cent for Jason Kessler et. al. to defend themselves in court, even on principle. That is an unspeakable disgrace that I wouldn’t believe but for the fact that I’m alive to witness it.

    Yet, here we have the usual suspects crying about their taxes, the welfare state, women having the nerve to hold employment in a STEM field, etc.

  198. @John Johnson
    @Reg Cæsar

    4 words you never say to your wife:

    I told you so.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    4 words you never say to your wife:

    I told you so.

    • Replies: @Buzz Mohawk
    @Reg Cæsar

    Maybe the problem with you guys is that you married American women.

    Good wives from many parts of the world pump up their men and support them in their efforts. They will never say a disparaging thing about their husbands or make those American jokes about how stupid their men are.

    In return, their husbands adore them, protect them and do everything they can to please them and help them. This is marriage in many places, but apparently it is alien to Americans now.

    When you get married, you should see the union as an alliance, in which you and your ally will always, always back each other up. Wives in this kind of marriage have every reason to promote their husbands, to even brag about them when appropriate, for their husbands are their champions.

    You American men should be your women's champions, and you should cherish and respect your women. You American women should always only say good things about your men. Do not diminish them, for that will only come back to hurt you (and them.)

    Why has this concept disappeared from America?

  199. @Intelligent Dasein
    @Achmed E. Newman


    It’s pretty crazy, though, this concept of basing a scientific opinion on the similar wording in your field to something political.
     
    It is my impression that many journalists these days are just grown-up versions of the kind of smart-aleck high school kids who think that sheer verbal dexterity and blunderbuss, combined with a smattering of de rigueur political sentiment, will so bowl over the teacher that they can write an 'A' paper on any subject, despite not knowing anything about it. Consequently, they rarely do any real research or any real work; and their hastily compiled essays, written in a pharmaceutical fog the night before due date, are a a type of sadomasochistic ritual by which they think to inflict their power upon a global peanut gallery. Once you learn to spot this kind of thing, you can see it popping up all over the place, like hunting for mushrooms in a forest.

    For a perfect (and perfectly nauseating) example, check out the thoroughly crappy obituary of Glenn Frey by Sarah Larson in The New Yorker. Seldom has anything been written from such utter depths of cluelessness by a person more obviously in love with the sound of her own voice. Take a glance to see what I mean; it will be educational.

    Replies: @usNthem, @Paleo Liberal, @Jack D, @Reg Cæsar, @Ron Mexico, @Achmed E. Newman, @Reg Cæsar

    That wasn’t an obituary but a memoir. Which is fine, as long as they labeled it as such.

  200. @Reg Cæsar
    @Achmed E. Newman


    The name “Ogden” is not written elsewhere in the excerpt, but I’m gonna guess she is a woman...
     
    https://www.azquotes.com/picture-quotes/quote-women-would-rather-be-right-than-reasonable-ogden-nash-77-37-90.jpg

    Replies: @John Johnson, @Rosie

    It’s time for your daily dose of objective reality:

    https://www.caltech.edu/about/news/testosterone-makes-men-less-likely-question-their-impulses-55864

    Down the hatch, reg.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Rosie

    Take it up with Mr. Nash.


    Old Men
    People expect old men to die,
    They do not really mourn old men.
    Old men are different. People look
    At them with eyes that wonder when…
    People watch with unshocked eyes;
    But the old men know when an old man dies
     
    Yes, of the Nashville Nashes, his ilk and his kith and his kin.


    https://images.findagrave.com/photos250/photos/2001/222/nashogden.jpg

  201. @Clyde
    @The Anti-Gnostic

    Ha - She looks like Brad Pitt. Hopefully, his genes will dominate in her. ********* I have seen three 3-4ft long snake heads at a time, lounging in warm shallow water. A neighbor caught a few. He would not eat them, but let these pests die out of the water.

    Replies: @The Anti-Gnostic

    Apparently their flesh is firm, white, flaky and tastes great, once you filet it away from the awful-smelling skin and entrails.

    • Replies: @Ralph L
    @The Anti-Gnostic

    Not enough meat on Jolie to be worth the trouble.

    , @Reg Cæsar
    @The Anti-Gnostic


    Apparently their flesh is firm, white, flaky and tastes great, once you filet it away from the awful-smelling skin and entrails.
     
    Wait... are you talking about the snakehead, or Angelina and Shiloh?
  202. @Paul Rise
    Just jumping in to point out that all earthworm species found in North America are invasive. There were none here until Europeans began traveling here.

    Replies: @rebel yell

    “Earthworms are native to the United States, says Melissa McCormick, ecologist at the Smithsonian Environmental Research Center, but the earthworms in some northern parts of the country (including Vermont) aren’t indigenous.”

  203. @Bill Jones
    @Boomthorkell


    what’s absolutely true is the untold destruction of wildlife hierarchies and spaces for improperly managed development.
     
    And for that you can blame Whitie: without the drugs and food and crop technologies sent to the third world the global population would be 3 billion lighter.

    Replies: @Boomthorkell, @John Johnson

    And for that you can blame Whitie: without the drugs and food and crop technologies sent to the third world the global population would be 3 billion lighter.

    This is true but we also have White leaders that have bought into Wakanda theory and believe that just a few hundred billion more in food/tech/crop subsidies should do it.

  204. @SafeNow
    I posted about 6 months ago about the lunatic, high-speed, zigzagging, scary, Africanized bee that prevents me from relaxing in my yard in my dotage. It’s bad enough that I need to wear a gun-range sound suppressor because of the leafblowers. This is a new level of stress. This bee seems to have no interest in gathering pollen, as his industrious semi-colleagues do - - rather, being an uncontained menace is his thing. He senses the fear, I think. I must be strong.

    Update: Spraying “Essential oil” here and there on chairs, tree leaves, etc. has helped. It’s a concentrated pepperminty smell that somehow offends him.

    Replies: @John Johnson, @Sick 'n Tired

    Get an electric fly swatter and cook his ass. Problem solved.

  205. Has any progressive oncology academic written about the need to change our current demonization of cancer yet? If not, we need to Sokal one up.

  206. @Jack D
    @Bragadocious


    Ask South Africa about how things went for them when they kicked the queen out in 1960.
     
    Post hoc ergo propter hoc

    Correlation is not causation. Getting rid of the Queen is a symptom of the disease, not the cause.

    I heard someone from Barbados explaining the decision on the BBC. He gave two reasons:

    1. The Queen stands for the history of slavery and therefore is bad. Forgetting that without slavery he wouldn't even BE in Barbados and wouldn't even exist because his ancestors would have been castrated when sold into Arab slavery or eaten by another tribe or maybe worked to death in Brazil. The luckiest moment in his entire ancestry was when his ancestors ended up on a British slave ship.

    2. The second point was actually quite reasonable (but just try this out in the US and see what reaction you get): The head of state should look like her own people. The Queen doesn't look like the average Bardabian and therefore isn't qualified to be their head of state. Now apply this to Kamala.

    Replies: @Bragadocious, @MEH 0910, @Reg Cæsar

    The head of state should look like her own people.

    This is why kingdoms are the best form of government, and empires the worst.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @Reg Cæsar

    The crowned heads of Europe were rarely of the same ethnicity as their subjects. The British royal family is German. Elites always have more in common with (and prefer to match their kids up with) other elites in other countries than they do with the dirty peons in their own country.

    Replies: @Buzz Mohawk, @Reg Cæsar, @sb

  207. @Achmed E. Newman
    @Achmed E. Newman

    OK, yeah, that was Don Henley.

    This one features Don Henley and Glen Frey singing:

    "Lay down your law books now, they're no damn good."

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o2wG4CpiA-A

    Replies: @Ron Mexico

    Play the 3 (D-D, Desperado, and D-D / Desperado Reprise) together. “4 men ride out and only 3 ride back”

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    @Ron Mexico

    Great stuff, Ron, and I'm quite familiar.

  208. @Rosie
    @Reg Cæsar

    It's time for your daily dose of objective reality:

    https://www.caltech.edu/about/news/testosterone-makes-men-less-likely-question-their-impulses-55864

    Down the hatch, reg.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    Take it up with Mr. Nash.

    Old Men
    People expect old men to die,
    They do not really mourn old men.
    Old men are different. People look
    At them with eyes that wonder when…
    People watch with unshocked eyes;
    But the old men know when an old man dies

    Yes, of the Nashville Nashes, his ilk and his kith and his kin.

    • Thanks: Muggles
  209. @The Anti-Gnostic
    @Clyde

    Apparently their flesh is firm, white, flaky and tastes great, once you filet it away from the awful-smelling skin and entrails.

    Replies: @Ralph L, @Reg Cæsar

    Not enough meat on Jolie to be worth the trouble.

    • Thanks: The Anti-Gnostic
  210. OT: Did you know that your bio page at Taki

    https://www.takimag.com/contributor/Steve%20Sailer/6/

    links only to your old blogspot.com address?

  211. @Muggles
    Although I find the subject of the essay by this woman today wrong headed and almost childish, I didn't associate it with the current "migrant' situation.

    Modern humans are all of the same species. We can and do interbreed, have nearly exactly the same DNA, etc.

    To use a term like "demonize" to discuss animal/insect/etc. migrations pro or con is just silly and of course meant to be provocative. As some here think perhaps Woke virtue signaling.

    The benefits and costs of new species in new places is determined by objective factors, not analogies to human travel or migration.

    While we can be dismayed by the poor level of intelligent discourse on this subject, if you go back and look at say, 19th century commentary supposedly written by scientists or educated people, you will discover the same low level of intelligent thought. Back then of course much of it was based on theological concepts and interpretations.

    The same can be said of Woke journalism and Woke pseudo science as well. Neo Marxist balderdash has replaced any notion of the Divine in Wokedom.

    That is one interesting fact about Wokedom. The more "heritage religious" a place is, the less Woke it is. Believing in classical ideas of the Divine rules out belief in fuzzy incoherent notions of the "Divine" in racial scapegoating or Worship of the State as the ultimate arbitrator of enforcing divine Woke mandates of speech and behavior. You can fear God or Allah for your soul. Not the New York Times.

    Like all fake religions invented for private benefit and manipulation, Wokedom will soon fade. There is no "there" there. Eventually the Woke dummies will decide to leave their mountaintop when Salvation no longer seems imminent. It appeals only to Europeans and European Americans/Canadians. And of course the few cynical POC who grift from it.

    Cat and baby videos on YouTube will once again seem more fulfilling.

    Replies: @acementhead, @Stan Adams

    Cat and baby videos on YouTube will once again seem more fulfilling

    • Thanks: Achmed E. Newman
  212. @Reg Cæsar
    @Jack D


    The head of state should look like her own people.
     
    This is why kingdoms are the best form of government, and empires the worst.

    Replies: @Jack D

    The crowned heads of Europe were rarely of the same ethnicity as their subjects. The British royal family is German. Elites always have more in common with (and prefer to match their kids up with) other elites in other countries than they do with the dirty peons in their own country.

    • Replies: @Buzz Mohawk
    @Jack D


    The British royal family is German.
     
    Are you surprised? I'm not, and I'm perfectly happy about the German half of my English-speaking, American ancestry. It is strong and superior.

    Hey, Jack, it's all European, and so are you, so don't get butt-hurt about it, okay? I'm not about to go out and march like the retired SS officer I look like now. Not a chance, so don't sweat it.

    , @Reg Cæsar
    @Jack D


    The crowned heads of Europe were rarely of the same ethnicity as their subjects.
     
    Yeah, but they looked like them. Barbados is a different kettle of wahoo.


    https://preview.redd.it/cqq554xbw2i31.jpg?width=640&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=9303543108b3eb6c55624a96ac34339704a2071a


    Eye candy to reward those who click the More button!

    , @sb
    @Jack D

    You often hear how the British Royal family is so German
    Well there is certainly German ancestry going back to George I and I think plenty of Germans over the years have married into the family
    But
    The Queen's mother was Scottish
    Princess Diana was very English
    Prince William's missus is very English
    So I'm not so sure what the current state of play is . There is probably an article on this somewhere .

    Regarding the Republic of Barbados
    I'd be more impressed if this was a decision by referendum rather than just a decision by the Parliament . Maybe the people aren't quite as republican as their politicians but I don't know

    If you look at Denmark -the current Queen married a Frenchman and their child ,the current Crown Prince, married an Australian of pretty much total Scottish ancestry
    But I doubt many Danes are concerned about this

  213. @Reg Cæsar
    @John Johnson


    4 words you never say to your wife:

    I told you so.
     
    https://i.etsystatic.com/7461952/r/il/273882/802821942/il_794xN.802821942_apq9.jpg

    Replies: @Buzz Mohawk

    Maybe the problem with you guys is that you married American women.

    Good wives from many parts of the world pump up their men and support them in their efforts. They will never say a disparaging thing about their husbands or make those American jokes about how stupid their men are.

    In return, their husbands adore them, protect them and do everything they can to please them and help them. This is marriage in many places, but apparently it is alien to Americans now.

    When you get married, you should see the union as an alliance, in which you and your ally will always, always back each other up. Wives in this kind of marriage have every reason to promote their husbands, to even brag about them when appropriate, for their husbands are their champions.

    You American men should be your women’s champions, and you should cherish and respect your women. You American women should always only say good things about your men. Do not diminish them, for that will only come back to hurt you (and them.)

    Why has this concept disappeared from America?

  214. @The Anti-Gnostic
    @Clyde

    Apparently their flesh is firm, white, flaky and tastes great, once you filet it away from the awful-smelling skin and entrails.

    Replies: @Ralph L, @Reg Cæsar

    Apparently their flesh is firm, white, flaky and tastes great, once you filet it away from the awful-smelling skin and entrails.

    Wait… are you talking about the snakehead, or Angelina and Shiloh?

    • LOL: The Anti-Gnostic
  215. @Jack D
    @Reg Cæsar

    The crowned heads of Europe were rarely of the same ethnicity as their subjects. The British royal family is German. Elites always have more in common with (and prefer to match their kids up with) other elites in other countries than they do with the dirty peons in their own country.

    Replies: @Buzz Mohawk, @Reg Cæsar, @sb

    The British royal family is German.

    Are you surprised? I’m not, and I’m perfectly happy about the German half of my English-speaking, American ancestry. It is strong and superior.

    Hey, Jack, it’s all European, and so are you, so don’t get butt-hurt about it, okay? I’m not about to go out and march like the retired SS officer I look like now. Not a chance, so don’t sweat it.

  216. Anonymous[158] • Disclaimer says:
    @Intelligent Dasein
    @Anonymous


    So, the left is ‘anti species’ and will probably rule, at some time or another, that ‘species does not exist’.
     
    Then they would be true Darwinians. Think about that next time you are tempted to use evolutionary theory as a bolster for race-realism.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    Surely, Darwin named his tome the ‘Origin of Species’ for a reason ……

    The point is that multiple competing gene pools have the inexorable tendency to ‘partition themselves off’, hence the reason molluscs, whales and liverworts are all hypothesised to have the same ultimate common ancestor.

    Never mind the notion that the tiger and the deer were, eons ago, one and the same organism, ancestrally speaking.

  217. @Jack D
    @Reg Cæsar

    The crowned heads of Europe were rarely of the same ethnicity as their subjects. The British royal family is German. Elites always have more in common with (and prefer to match their kids up with) other elites in other countries than they do with the dirty peons in their own country.

    Replies: @Buzz Mohawk, @Reg Cæsar, @sb

    The crowned heads of Europe were rarely of the same ethnicity as their subjects.

    Yeah, but they looked like them. Barbados is a different kettle of wahoo.

    [MORE]

    Eye candy to reward those who click the More button!

  218. @Jack D
    @Pericles

    One theory is that Zemmour is leaking these stories about himself to make him appear more virile and appealing to voters. Women especially find men who are wanted by other women as appealing (and shun men who are shunned by other women).

    Otherwise Zemmour is rather repulsive looking. He is the rare Jew who actually looks like a Nazi caricature of a Jew.

    A Jew who is the head of the right wing - an Unzite's head could explode at the thought.

    Replies: @Mr. Anon, @Boomthorkell, @IHTG, @Reg Cæsar, @Ghost of Bull Moose

    Nazi caricature? He looks like Nosferatu. I hope he wins.

    • Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease
    @Ghost of Bull Moose

    Whenever I hear the name Nosferatu, I unconsciously interpret it as "Our Feratu". Somehow a lot less scary.

    Maybe there's a sitcom hiding in that.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    , @Jack D
    @Ghost of Bull Moose

    Actually he reminds me of the late Peter Cushing ("Tarkin" in Star Wars):

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/5/5a/Grand_Moff_Tarkin.png

    Zenmour is a Sephardic Jew from Algeria. The Nazis (and Vichy) really did a number on the Ashkenazi Jewish population of France but then with the loss of Algeria they had an large influx of Sephardic Jews.

    Replies: @Inquiring Mind

  219. @John Johnson
    @Corvinus

    That was addressed in Jared Diamond’s book.

    That book is a giant load of left-wing BS.

    The guy is a dedicated socialist and won't debate his own theories.

    Guns/Germs exists to promote race denial and White guilt in college students.

    The Bantu had cattle 1500 years ago. That is when Germans were in primitive tribes. So why didn't Bantu countries develop the rocket?

    His whole book falls apart when applied to basic history of the last 2000 years. He relies on public school indoctrination of his readers.

    Replies: @Alden

    The Germans had cattle 1,500 years ago
    and 4,000 years ago too. Jared Diamond is exactly what you said. A White hating liberal liar. I remember something in one of his books about the Shoshone Indians who almost died off because of natural causes. Absolutely untrue. They were pushed west into Wyoming by the much larger population, more aggressive Sioux. And ran up against another Tribe can’t remember the name and couldn’t go further west. So the Shoshone were stuck between 2 more powerful tribes. And didn’t almost die off because of natural causes.

    I’m sure it’s possible to go through his books page by page and find a liberal lie in every paragraph.

    OT and horrible from Fox News. The Milwaukee County Criminal Court claims the transcript of the Nov 5 bail hearing of Darell Brooks is lost. Supposedly there was no court reporter present at the hearing. Just a recording was made. And 3 weeks after the hearing when a reporter requested it something happened and the recording must have erased itself.

    It’s unheard of for recording and transcripts to disappear 3 weeks after a hearing. Or disappear at all. The whole of Wisconsin must be owned by Satan and Soros LLC

  220. @Sick 'n Tired
    @John Johnson

    I live in S. Florida, invasive species here are pythons/boa constrictors in the Everglades eating all the indigenous animals like alligators and raccoons, iguanas everywhere, lionfish on our reefs eating everything that comes near them, and parrots/exotic birds that escaped when the aviary at the zoo blew down during hurricane Andrew. Not to mention various other bugs, lizards, and fish not native to the area and have no natural predators to keep their populations in control.

    Replies: @Alden

    Has a Python Boa Constrictors Rights NGO been formed yet? Save the Pythons. Don’t be a bigoted biased Speciesist

    • LOL: Sick 'n Tired
    • Replies: @Sick 'n Tired
    @Alden

    They have annual hunts down here where whoever catches the largest one wins a few grand. The past winners have won with snakes that are 16, 17, & 18+ feet long, weighing in at 200+ pounds each.

  221. @Ghost of Bull Moose
    @Jack D

    Nazi caricature? He looks like Nosferatu. I hope he wins.

    Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease, @Jack D

    Whenever I hear the name Nosferatu, I unconsciously interpret it as “Our Feratu”. Somehow a lot less scary.

    Maybe there’s a sitcom hiding in that.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @The Germ Theory of Disease


    Whenever I hear the name Nosferatu, I unconsciously interpret it as “Our Feratu”. Somehow a lot less scary.
     
    And it scans with "My Sharona".

    Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease

  222. @The Germ Theory of Disease
    @Ghost of Bull Moose

    Whenever I hear the name Nosferatu, I unconsciously interpret it as "Our Feratu". Somehow a lot less scary.

    Maybe there's a sitcom hiding in that.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    Whenever I hear the name Nosferatu, I unconsciously interpret it as “Our Feratu”. Somehow a lot less scary.

    And it scans with “My Sharona”.

    • Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease
    @Reg Cæsar

    And if you really wanted to stretch it in terms of linguistic cognates, "Nosferatu" could vaguely kinda-sorta be read as "We will carry you."

  223. @Jack D
    @Reg Cæsar

    The crowned heads of Europe were rarely of the same ethnicity as their subjects. The British royal family is German. Elites always have more in common with (and prefer to match their kids up with) other elites in other countries than they do with the dirty peons in their own country.

    Replies: @Buzz Mohawk, @Reg Cæsar, @sb

    You often hear how the British Royal family is so German
    Well there is certainly German ancestry going back to George I and I think plenty of Germans over the years have married into the family
    But
    The Queen’s mother was Scottish
    Princess Diana was very English
    Prince William’s missus is very English
    So I’m not so sure what the current state of play is . There is probably an article on this somewhere .

    Regarding the Republic of Barbados
    I’d be more impressed if this was a decision by referendum rather than just a decision by the Parliament . Maybe the people aren’t quite as republican as their politicians but I don’t know

    If you look at Denmark -the current Queen married a Frenchman and their child ,the current Crown Prince, married an Australian of pretty much total Scottish ancestry
    But I doubt many Danes are concerned about this

  224. Marina Bolotnikova, Vox = Bravo, invation! Max kool!

  225. @Tex
    @Pericles

    The look that says, "I don't give a crap who you vote for, I got this!"

    Replies: @Intelligent Dasein

    The look that says, “I don’t give a crap who you vote for, I got this!”

    Unfortunately, that’s not the attitude we need. That was more or less Trump’s attitude, with what results we see. I was hoping that Trump would grow into his role, that the grace of office would work some salutary changes in his personality; but, alas, it was not to be.

    Our situation cannot be helped by careerist politicians whose main objective is to achieve personal success within the current order, even if said politicians happen to be nominally right wing. Again, the experience of Trump has shown us that even legitimate populist sentiments can be coopted by cynical politicians who only want to advance themselves, who neither agree with nor even understand such sentiments.

    I don’t really know anything about Zemmour and I hope he will be different. I hope he will be a real patriot. But that means having an attitude of sacrifice, not an attitude of “I got this!”

    • Replies: @Brutusale
    @Intelligent Dasein

    Zemmour mirrors Trump in that he has to fight his way through a candidate who's a descendent of the party's power elite. What's different is the simple fact that the Le Pens are much more committed conservatives than the Bushes.

  226. @Reg Cæsar
    @The Germ Theory of Disease


    Whenever I hear the name Nosferatu, I unconsciously interpret it as “Our Feratu”. Somehow a lot less scary.
     
    And it scans with "My Sharona".

    Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease

    And if you really wanted to stretch it in terms of linguistic cognates, “Nosferatu” could vaguely kinda-sorta be read as “We will carry you.”

  227. @acementhead
    @Muggles


    "Like all fake religions invented for private benefit and manipulation..."
     
    All religions are fake. There is no gaseous vertebrate up in the sky no matter what you call it/(it is called). All religions have always been used for the benefit of a few. Religion trains people to believe official lies.

    Replies: @Intelligent Dasein

    All religions are fake. There is no gaseous vertebrate up in the sky no matter what you call it/(it is called).

    There is no religion that asserts any such thing. If you understood anything about religion, you would know that by now.

    God does exist. You can prove this to yourself without much difficulty, since it mostly runs parallel to the cogito argument that proves that you yourself exist, and which certainly cannot be doubted.

    I think, therefore I am.
    “I am” means that I exist.
    If I exist, then there is a being.
    If there is a being, there is a quality Being itself.
    Being itself has no cause, but it exists.
    Ergo, there exists an uncaused cause.

    If anything exists at all, then there must be an ipsum esse subsistens—and that is what is meant by God. The argument can only be gainsaid; it cannot be refuted. You might as well try to refute the existence of yourself. Your de re act of refutation gives the lie to the de dicto meaning of your words.

    This is the starting point for religion and it is entirely rational.

    • Agree: Bill
    • Thanks: Rosie
    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Intelligent Dasein


    You might as well try to refute the existence of yourself.
     
    We'd have little problem refuting the existence of "a cement head"!

    Which reminds me-- yesterday, on a road trip to pick up a bitch, we saw a Rapa Nui moai statue wearing a Santa cap on someone's lawn. Not far from Works Progress Street. It's beginning to look a lot like Christmas!



    https://pics.me.me/thumb_amazon-com-moai-emoji-easter-island-head-statue-with-santa-hat-51647804.png


    (Not that you need a tuque the first week of summer at a latitude corresponding to Padre Island.)

    Replies: @Rob McX

  228. @Intelligent Dasein
    @Tex


    The look that says, “I don’t give a crap who you vote for, I got this!”
     
    Unfortunately, that's not the attitude we need. That was more or less Trump's attitude, with what results we see. I was hoping that Trump would grow into his role, that the grace of office would work some salutary changes in his personality; but, alas, it was not to be.

    Our situation cannot be helped by careerist politicians whose main objective is to achieve personal success within the current order, even if said politicians happen to be nominally right wing. Again, the experience of Trump has shown us that even legitimate populist sentiments can be coopted by cynical politicians who only want to advance themselves, who neither agree with nor even understand such sentiments.

    I don't really know anything about Zemmour and I hope he will be different. I hope he will be a real patriot. But that means having an attitude of sacrifice, not an attitude of "I got this!"

    Replies: @Brutusale

    Zemmour mirrors Trump in that he has to fight his way through a candidate who’s a descendent of the party’s power elite. What’s different is the simple fact that the Le Pens are much more committed conservatives than the Bushes.

  229. @Ron Mexico
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Play the 3 (D-D, Desperado, and D-D / Desperado Reprise) together. "4 men ride out and only 3 ride back"

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

    Great stuff, Ron, and I’m quite familiar.

  230. @Boomthorkell
    @Rosie

    I suppose this makes sense.

    If this isn't sarcasm though, care to elaborate? I'm genuinely intrigued if the line of thought I've been going on after reading it is remotely connected to what you were thinking.

    If this is sarcasm...Ha ha, then I just went in assuming it wasn't, hoping for a more interesting talk.

    Replies: @Rosie

    If this isn’t sarcasm though, care to elaborate?

    It’s sarcasm.

    • Replies: @Boomthorkell
    @Rosie

    Ah well.

    Realistically, I figure Jewish women do what they do because they are Jewish and Male, and Jewish men do what they do because they are Jewish and Male. That's pretty much just stating though that "obvious things are obvious."

  231. @TyRade
    @Bragadocious

    I think Barbados will join S Africa, and just about every former colony ditching even the symbolism of Her Majesty (aka 'civilisation') in generations of seller's remorse. It may be a tactical move, of course - fleeing the monarchy while the tree-hugger, slavery-knee-taker and all round ar$e Charles assumed the throne; who would not contemplate distancing oneself from that dipstick?

    Replies: @Bragadocious, @Alden, @Thea, @Anonymous

    About 10 years ago a survey in Jamaica revealed that most Jamaicans felt they were better off as a member of the English Commonwealth and regretted the end of British rule. Buyers’ remorse. Nothing came of it.

  232. @anon
    @Emblematic

    Muslims and Chinese are by far the worst invasive species of Australia

    Replies: @Patriot

    Australians and New Zealanders are at this very moment converting their major cities into Chinese cities.

    Did Aussies and Kiwis ever get a chance to vote on their displacement?

    Was there ever a National ballot to decide:

    The government should replace Whites with Chinese in our major cities.

    YES. NO

    of course such a ballot never occurred, because the citizens would have said no. So, instead, the elites simply did it. Same in virtually all Western nations re: immigration.

    In the west, democracy is a sham. It’s a trick. We are allowed to only vote for things that don’t matter or for candidates who have already been pre-selected.

    • Agree: JMcG
  233. @Ghost of Bull Moose
    @Jack D

    Nazi caricature? He looks like Nosferatu. I hope he wins.

    Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease, @Jack D

    Actually he reminds me of the late Peter Cushing (“Tarkin” in Star Wars):

    Zenmour is a Sephardic Jew from Algeria. The Nazis (and Vichy) really did a number on the Ashkenazi Jewish population of France but then with the loss of Algeria they had an large influx of Sephardic Jews.

    • Replies: @Inquiring Mind
    @Jack D

    I never thought of it this way, but has anyone noticed that Tarkin in Star Wars is wearing a blister pack for dispensing daily doses of female oral contraceptives as the "fruit salad" on his military uniform?

  234. Anonymous[105] • Disclaimer says:
    @Patriot
    @Corvinus

    The only reason indigenous people “conserved” the environment was because their technical ignorance, diseases, and constant warfare kept their populations super low.

    I’ve been all over the world living with “native people” and virtually all of them simply kill and harvest everything they can. Now that the West has brought them guns, chainsaws, and antibiotics, the environmental destruction is astronomical.

    For the most part, the ONLY people fighting this environmental destruction are White people (NGO’s) and a few Indigenous people they employ (pay) to follow the White man’s dictates.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    This is the common pre-modern attitude. Europeans used to be the same. They believed the bible stories about how the world was created to be used by man, and had no conception that it was possible to drive species into extinction. Modern environmentalism was the result of a long, slow learning process, during which a huge amount of irreversible damage was done.

    • Agree: Patriot
    • Replies: @Corvinus
    @Anonymous

    "Modern environmentalism was the result of a long, slow learning process, during which a huge amount of irreversible damage was done."

    By Europeans, starting with the Age of Imperialism.

  235. @iffen
    First Lysenko, now Bolotnikova, tragedy, farce, and all that.

    Replies: @ic1000, @Reg Cæsar

    First Lysenko, now Bolotnikova, tragedy, farce, and all that.

    First time, Lysenkoism, second time, Bolotulism.

    “Invasive species” appears to be a novel way to push Puerto Rican independence. It works in both directions.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Reg Cæsar

    'Bolotulism' - only slightly less toxic than Botulism.

    , @Anonymous
    @Reg Cæsar

    Bolotnikova talks bollocks, as the English would say.

  236. @anon
    European settlers: the ORIGINAL INVASIVE SPECIES in the Americas.

    Replies: @Joe Paluka, @Anonymous

    Mammoths, giant sloths and horses were hunted to extinction by the ancestors of American Indians.

    • Replies: @Patriot
    @Anonymous

    Yes, the early American Indians killed off many species. This is an example of when the invasion of a foreign species (humans) into a new habitat (The New World) causes ecological disruption and sometimes extinction of native species.

    We are currently seeing this with our very eyes as “certain people” flood Western Nations with immigrants. White populations are plummeting everywhere. If this continues, Whites will become a forgotten race in their own historic homelands, completely swamped by a Holocaust of invading People of Color.

    This is being done on purpose by “certain people”.

  237. @Corvinus
    @Bert

    “why Sub-Saharan Africans did not colonize tropical India which was much closer to them than the Americas were to Europeans“

    That was addressed in Jared Diamond’s book.

    Replies: @John Johnson, @Reg Cæsar, @Anonymous, @Mr. Anon

    That was addressed in Jared Diamond’s book.

    No that was papered over and avoided in Jared Diamond’s book, which was written to provide an alternative straw-grasping justification for avoiding thinking about actual human bio-diversity. It was hogwash. But I guess that witless boobs like you bought it.

  238. @Intelligent Dasein
    @acementhead


    All religions are fake. There is no gaseous vertebrate up in the sky no matter what you call it/(it is called).
     
    There is no religion that asserts any such thing. If you understood anything about religion, you would know that by now.

    God does exist. You can prove this to yourself without much difficulty, since it mostly runs parallel to the cogito argument that proves that you yourself exist, and which certainly cannot be doubted.

    I think, therefore I am.
    "I am" means that I exist.
    If I exist, then there is a being.
    If there is a being, there is a quality Being itself.
    Being itself has no cause, but it exists.
    Ergo, there exists an uncaused cause.

    If anything exists at all, then there must be an ipsum esse subsistens---and that is what is meant by God. The argument can only be gainsaid; it cannot be refuted. You might as well try to refute the existence of yourself. Your de re act of refutation gives the lie to the de dicto meaning of your words.

    This is the starting point for religion and it is entirely rational.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    You might as well try to refute the existence of yourself.

    We’d have little problem refuting the existence of “a cement head”!

    Which reminds me– yesterday, on a road trip to pick up a bitch, we saw a Rapa Nui moai statue wearing a Santa cap on someone’s lawn. Not far from Works Progress Street. It’s beginning to look a lot like Christmas!

    (Not that you need a tuque the first week of summer at a latitude corresponding to Padre Island.)

    • Replies: @Rob McX
    @Reg Cæsar


    Which reminds me– yesterday, on a road trip to pick up a bitch...
     
    You're listening to too much rap music.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

  239. Anonymous[296] • Disclaimer says:
    @TyRade
    @Bragadocious

    I think Barbados will join S Africa, and just about every former colony ditching even the symbolism of Her Majesty (aka 'civilisation') in generations of seller's remorse. It may be a tactical move, of course - fleeing the monarchy while the tree-hugger, slavery-knee-taker and all round ar$e Charles assumed the throne; who would not contemplate distancing oneself from that dipstick?

    Replies: @Bragadocious, @Alden, @Thea, @Anonymous

    Lots of causes of friction between Britain and its Caribbean colonies. Criminal justice is a big one, with the British being much more liberal, especially regarding the death penalty, which they won’t allow these countries to carry out. The British also have much more liberal attitudes towards drugs, homosexuality and similar issues, and their attempts to impose these values on the Caribbean are not popular.

    Countering this, there is generally a desire not to do anything that might jeopardize migration to Britain. However this is mostly of interest to the older generation. Younger people generally want to go to the US, not Britain.

  240. @Reg Cæsar
    @Intelligent Dasein


    You might as well try to refute the existence of yourself.
     
    We'd have little problem refuting the existence of "a cement head"!

    Which reminds me-- yesterday, on a road trip to pick up a bitch, we saw a Rapa Nui moai statue wearing a Santa cap on someone's lawn. Not far from Works Progress Street. It's beginning to look a lot like Christmas!



    https://pics.me.me/thumb_amazon-com-moai-emoji-easter-island-head-statue-with-santa-hat-51647804.png


    (Not that you need a tuque the first week of summer at a latitude corresponding to Padre Island.)

    Replies: @Rob McX

    Which reminds me– yesterday, on a road trip to pick up a bitch…

    You’re listening to too much rap music.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Rob McX

    At the Humane Society.


    https://youtu.be/2AkLE4X-bbU

  241. @Reg Cæsar
    @iffen


    First Lysenko, now Bolotnikova, tragedy, farce, and all that.
     
    First time, Lysenkoism, second time, Bolotulism.


    "Invasive species" appears to be a novel way to push Puerto Rican independence. It works in both directions.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Anonymous

    ‘Bolotulism’ – only slightly less toxic than Botulism.

  242. @Reg Cæsar
    @iffen


    First Lysenko, now Bolotnikova, tragedy, farce, and all that.
     
    First time, Lysenkoism, second time, Bolotulism.


    "Invasive species" appears to be a novel way to push Puerto Rican independence. It works in both directions.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Anonymous

    Bolotnikova talks bollocks, as the English would say.

  243. No more anti-kudzu species-ism.

    Weedy Lives Matter!!

  244. @Rob McX
    @Reg Cæsar


    Which reminds me– yesterday, on a road trip to pick up a bitch...
     
    You're listening to too much rap music.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    At the Humane Society.

  245. Conservationists should call them “settler colonialist species” instead.

    • LOL: Rosie
  246. @tyrone
    @TWS

    Does it cause problems with baloney production?.....apparently not.

    Replies: @TWS

    On the contrary, it seems to be a requisite.

  247. @Mike_from_SGV
    @Zoos

    That's impressive shooting from a moving/vibrating copter.

    Replies: @Joe Stalin, @Muggles

    That’s impressive shooting from a moving/vibrating copter.

    The US military did that a lot in Vietnam, and elsewhere. Of course automatic weapons normally.

    Feral hogs are such a menace in Texas that short of poisoning them you can kill them 24/7 with anything you can.

  248. @Alden
    @TyRade

    My cynical opinion about Barbados splitting from the common wealth.

    The Barbados PTB were approached by the City Of London Saudi Kuwait Oman Dubai prince of Lichtenstein Satan& Soros LLC some major financial banking entity to split from the Commonwealth and become a major off shore banking refuge for the wealthiest people in the world.

    Replies: @Lurker

    Barbados hasn’t left the Commonwealth.

  249. @JR Ewing
    Man, that is seriously transparent.

    Replies: @Ben tillman

    They were bound to do it sooner or later.

  250. @Bragadocious
    @Jack D

    LOL I think my point was misunderstood.

    It's not that South Africa should have remained in the Commonwealth and lost their way when they Brexited.

    It's that Britain wreaks revenge on countries that reject its monarch. As they did with South Africa from 1960 to the fall of apartheid, as they're doing with Barbados right now (claiming they're a Chinese pawn).

    Replies: @Obstinate Cymric

    “Britain wreaks revenge on countries that reject its monarch”

    India and Pakistan rejected the UK monarchy, are colonising the UK, and Pakistanis are heavily involved with the rape of British girls. So I’m not at all sure you are right about this. Seems more the other way round.

    https://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/news/19748625.bradford-people-among-42-charged-child-sex-offences/

    • Replies: @Bragadocious
    @Obstinate Cymric

    Both the countries you mentioned are Commonwealth members, so I don't know that they rejected anything. One of the downsides of this Commonwealth thingy is that it encourages migration. Didn't the Brits think of this?

  251. @Right_On
    @Anonymous

    I haven't seen a red squirrel in England since I was a boy.

    First they came for Squirrel Nutkin, and I did not speak out—
    Because I was not a squirrel.

    Then they came for Jemima Puddle-Duck, and I did not speak out—
    . . .

    . . .

    . . .

    Replies: @Obstinate Cymric

    They still exist in the English Lake District.

    https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2017/jun/02/kill-them-the-volunteer-army-plotting-to-wipe-out-britains-grey-squirrels

    https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2017/feb/24/red-squirrels-5000-volunteers-sought-to-save-species-and-help-kill-invasive-greys

    Red squirrel conservation is not like most other efforts to save wildlife. It consists of exterminating one rival species: the grey squirrel. A few weeks after the death of her red squirrels, Bailey began to fight back on the side of the reds. She set up strategically placed feeders so that she could pull up quietly in her car, wind down her window and shoot the greys with an air rifle. Her husband got a gun and joined in. The first time I spoke to Bailey by telephone, I asked her how many squirrels she and Phil had eliminated since they began. She paused. I could hear the clicking of a mouse through a spreadsheet. “Four hundred and sixty nine,” she replied.

    When I visited her home a month later, I found a shrine to the red squirrel. The time was told by a red squirrel clock, the woodburner was adorned with cast-iron squirrels, Bailey’s study walls and carpet were squirrel-red; there were ornamental squirrels made by a local sculptor, a red squirrel jigsaw, goblet, boot brush, paperweight and piggybank. We drank tea from red squirrel mugs, and sat by a grey-coloured freezer. When I asked what was inside, Bailey opened the door and pulled out neatly butchered hunks of grey squirrel. “All our greys go in that freezer and we eat them. Not everyone’s cup of tea, but that’s what we do. Very healthy meat. Phil loves his squirrel curry, because he just loves curry. I love it in a stew, so it falls off the bone like pulled pork.” Bailey was collecting the pelts to make a grey waistcoat.

    Grey squirrel meat is dry and nutty (our hazel trees are picked clean by greys every autumn).

    • Replies: @John Johnson
    @Obstinate Cymric

    Interesting article with dashes of leftism:

    Some consider the grey squirrel one of these “alien” invaders imperilling the red. But is its slaughter a futile expression of nativist xenophobia?

    Ah so trying to stop an invasive species means you have a medical fear of foreigners and your efforts are futile.

    Good Lord the left has truly lost it.

    Anyone that opposes killing non-native species should open their doors to Norway rats.

    , @Anonymous
    @Obstinate Cymric

    My auntie used to have a stuffed red squirrel - part of a 'naturalistic' Edwardian style display, containing a tree branch - in her living room.

  252. Speaking of invasions, police are dumbfounded by the death of the wife of “the black godfather” during a home invasion, in hard-to-home-invade Beverly Hills. Nobody can seem to figure out why a group of criminals would focus their efforts on “the black godfather.”

    Readers may ask themselves, “why, back in the day, did Beverly Hills residents participate in ‘redlining’ again?”

    https://nypost.com/2021/12/01/wife-of-rock-roll-hall-of-famer-clarence-avant-shot-killed-in-home-invasion/

  253. @Anonymous
    @anon

    Mammoths, giant sloths and horses were hunted to extinction by the ancestors of American Indians.

    Replies: @Patriot

    Yes, the early American Indians killed off many species. This is an example of when the invasion of a foreign species (humans) into a new habitat (The New World) causes ecological disruption and sometimes extinction of native species.

    We are currently seeing this with our very eyes as “certain people” flood Western Nations with immigrants. White populations are plummeting everywhere. If this continues, Whites will become a forgotten race in their own historic homelands, completely swamped by a Holocaust of invading People of Color.

    This is being done on purpose by “certain people”.

  254. @Reg Cæsar
    @Corvinus


    That was addressed in Jared Diamond’s book.
     
    That was [fin]essed in Jared Diamond’s book.

    Replies: @Corvinus

    More like flexed.

  255. @Bert
    @Corvinus

    Do a Google search for “desertification in Africa” for information regarding indigenous conservationists’ success there.

    Here is one of the links that you will find. It discusses the re-planting of trees which were removed by earlier generations of highly committed indigenous conservationists.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-34790661

    Replies: @Corvinus

    https://www.downtoearth.org.in/news/natural-disasters/amp/desertification-in-africa-10-things-you-must-know-54430

    Poverty-related agricultural practices are a major contributor to desertification. Continuous cultivation without adding supplements, overgrazing, lack of soil and water conservation structures, and indiscriminate bushfires aggravate the process of desertification.

    https://www.theguardian.com/climate-academy/2020/oct/12/indigenous-communities-protect-biodiversity-curb-climate-crisis

    Growing up in the rainforests of Ecuador, Nenquimo deeply respects the flora- and fauna-rich land. Waorani territory spans 2.5m acres and is home to 800 species of animals and birds, many of which are endangered. The forest also acts like a natural pharmacy, producing plants with medicinal properties that can treat everything from wounds to snake bites. One Waorani discovery called curare, a plant extract traditionally used to make poison darts, was developed into a muscle relaxant now popularly used in anesthesia

    https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/what-conservation-efforts-can-learn-from-indigenous-communities/

    On average, they are doing a better job of managing natural resources and environmental hazards like species decline and pollution,” says Pamela McElwee, one of the report’s lead authors and an associate professor of human ecology at Rutgers University. “This is a watershed moment in acknowledging that indigenous and local communities play really important roles in maintaining and managing biodiversity and landscapes that the rest of us can learn from.

  256. @TWS
    @Corvinus

    You've never spent one day even touring a reservation have you?

    Replies: @Corvinus

    Indigenous does not mean reservation. But then again what does a pale face like you know.

  257. @Zachary Smith
    Really strange stuff. The young woman is a recent graduate of Harvard with a BA in Slavic Languages, etc. If Google can be trusted, she is Jewish and from Russia.

    No published books I could find, and probably no serious scholarly articles either. Her twitter site hypes a book about Invasives, and she made a remark there of her desire to write about feral hogs.

    Would she love the Burmese pythons in Florida? Does she embrace black rats? Kudzu? The brown snakes of Guam? The rabbits of Australia? Fire ants are moving North. Will the Harvard graduate welcome those fire ants when they arrive at wherever she lives?

    Why is Mr. Sailer hyping this stuff? Is he a fan of Marina Bolotnikova's beliefs? A relative?

    Nothing at all is clear here.

    I'm on the other side of this issue, having recently spent too many thousands of dollars removing dead Ash trees here. So I'm not going to play kissy-face with the invasive Emerald Ash Borer.

    Personally I believe Ms. Bolotnikova should stick with topics she better understands - Slavic Languages, maybe.

    Replies: @Alfa158, @Reg Cæsar, @Bardon Kaldian, @Jack D, @Peter Akuleyev, @The Wild Geese Howard, @Brutusale, @Adam Smith, @Eric Novak

    Why shouldn’t Steve write about this? It’s “hyping”? What are you talking about? This article is published on a major media website.

  258. @Rosie
    @Bert


    Second, Bolotnikova identifies as a Jew, not as a Russian. See my earlier comment for documentation.
     
    Remember, Jewish women do as they do because they are women. Jewish men do as they do because they are Jews.

    Always.

    Replies: @Boomthorkell, @Rob

    Welcome back! Nice to have some diversity around here.

    • Thanks: Rosie
  259. @Obstinate Cymric
    @Bragadocious

    "Britain wreaks revenge on countries that reject its monarch"

    India and Pakistan rejected the UK monarchy, are colonising the UK, and Pakistanis are heavily involved with the rape of British girls. So I'm not at all sure you are right about this. Seems more the other way round.

    https://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/news/19748625.bradford-people-among-42-charged-child-sex-offences/

    Replies: @Bragadocious

    Both the countries you mentioned are Commonwealth members, so I don’t know that they rejected anything. One of the downsides of this Commonwealth thingy is that it encourages migration. Didn’t the Brits think of this?

  260. @Rosie
    @Boomthorkell


    If this isn’t sarcasm though, care to elaborate?
     
    It's sarcasm.

    Replies: @Boomthorkell

    Ah well.

    Realistically, I figure Jewish women do what they do because they are Jewish and Male, and Jewish men do what they do because they are Jewish and Male. That’s pretty much just stating though that “obvious things are obvious.”

  261. @Anonymous
    @Anonymous

    Thanks for the mosquito info. Somehow I had tunnel vision that there were no mosquitos in low humidity Los Angeles.
    I suspected I had a flea infestation or bed bugs, but during the night I could hear the mosquito in the night. Definitely very itchy with cortizone not helping much.

    Replies: @Sick 'n Tired

    Put rubbing alcohol on the bites instead, it works better than cortisone.

  262. @Alden
    @Sick 'n Tired

    Has a Python Boa Constrictors Rights NGO been formed yet? Save the Pythons. Don’t be a bigoted biased Speciesist

    Replies: @Sick 'n Tired

    They have annual hunts down here where whoever catches the largest one wins a few grand. The past winners have won with snakes that are 16, 17, & 18+ feet long, weighing in at 200+ pounds each.

  263. @Anonymous
    @Patriot

    This is the common pre-modern attitude. Europeans used to be the same. They believed the bible stories about how the world was created to be used by man, and had no conception that it was possible to drive species into extinction. Modern environmentalism was the result of a long, slow learning process, during which a huge amount of irreversible damage was done.

    Replies: @Corvinus

    “Modern environmentalism was the result of a long, slow learning process, during which a huge amount of irreversible damage was done.”

    By Europeans, starting with the Age of Imperialism.

    • Troll: YetAnotherAnon
  264. @Alec Leamas (working from home)
    @Corvinus


    Remember, indigenous tribes generally did not have a concept of land ownership and exploitation like the Europeans, and they were the original conservationists.
     
    This is silly "noble savage" nonsense. Natives may not have had a concept of title, but they certainly exercised the primary rights of ownership such as the supreme right to exclude. Otherwise, why did tribes bonk one another over the head with tomahawks and take their stuff for themselves?

    Replies: @Corvinus

    “This is silly “noble savage” nonsense.”

    Nope.

    https://americanindian.si.edu/nk360/manhattan/different-views-land/different-views-land.cshtml

    To Europeans, land was a commodity, an item which could be bought and sold and assigned to an individual owner. Native Americans, did not appreciate the notion of land as a commodity, especially not in terms of individual ownership. As a result, Indian groups would sell land, but in their minds had only sold the rights to use the lands. It seems, in fact, that when they sold land to the Dutch they did not give up their right to occupy it either. The famous purchase of Manhattan Island for sixty guilders loses some of its impact as a great real estate deal when one considers that the Indians probably never intended to give it up, but rather to “lease” it for Dutch use while they continued to occupy it.

    • Replies: @Rosie
    @Corvinus


    It seems, in fact, that when they sold land to the Dutch they did not give up their right to occupy it either.
     
    I've never understood the force of this argument. Wouldn't it imply that the Indians intended to, and believed they were, in fact, scamming the colonists?

    Replies: @Corvinus

    , @Rob
    @Corvinus

    By selling land some Indians (I'm sure the Aztecs had some system by which rich/noble men owned land) were probably not even leasing the land, else they would have said something like, “you have this land for x years. Then it is ours again.

    What they were likely selling was non-exclusive use. Whites could be there/hunt there/farm there, and that group (band, “tribe” subtribe, whatever) would not like the men on sight and rape the women. And after the torture, rape, and murder of the parents, they might adopt the children into their tribe/band.

    I think European interaction with the Indians is fascinating. It gives us a window into what interactions between the first states and their neighbors were probably like. I don’t know who made the first bronze spearpoint or ax, but I’ll bet it was not a fantastic time for their neighbors. As bad as alcohol was for Indians shows a plausible scenario for the earliest old world creation of alcohol. Most likely it was awful. Mothers drinking themselves to death, but no one wanted to raise their children, some of whom had fetal alcohol syndrome, so they starved to death.

    The earliest settled life with domestic animals must have been great. All the meat they could want. But after the first few diseases crossed over, the plagues must have been horrendous. After a few generations, when there had been some selection for resistance to those diseases and all the adults had acquired immunity, the diseases probably aided them in conquering neighbors. Virgin soil epidemics are rough.

    Native North Americans were worthless as slaves. They’d die like flies. They were not into toil... The earliest slave takers must’ve been as disappointed as the English colonists. I have read that early slavers did not bother taking adults. Nubile women excepted, of course. They preferred kids and early teens. Young enough that they did not have ingrained habits. Also, they did not know enough culture to just walk away and live hand to mouth until they found others of their ethnicity. Have also read that much later Europeans preferred fairly young African slaves over adults.

    Indians had a lot of trouble adopting/stealing the colonists' tech. I don’t mean they would not use a metal hatchet or boomstick. I mean they did not figure out how to mine, refine oar, run a blacksmith shop, or mix their own gunpowder. Neighbors of early innovators probably had a very hard time adopting their enemy's tech. Come to think of it, in North Africa, there is a caste of smiths/tinkers/ironworkers who look very, well um, negroid.

    The Tuareg, a herding/raiding Muslim people of North Africa think the blacksmith caste, the Ineden, or Inaden are both stupid and wily. The internet suggests that lots of African regions had blacksmith castes. Coupling the Native American inability to adopt/copy colonists’ tech suggests that African ironworking, which was independently invented had a single origin. Some clan/tribe/village figured out iron, from mining ore to smelting and smithing. Other Africans could not copy it, much like the Indians and our smithing. So the ironworking bunch specialized in iron. For us HBDers, it suggests that they became more adapted to smithing. What would that entail? Well, they’d be selected to be willing to stand at a forge all day. They’d be selected for visuospatial ability, for tool use. Things the Tuareg, for example, were not selected to do.

    The first smiths had a very special magic. The kind that worked. Being in demand, they gradually/quickly spread throughout Africa, remaining endogamous but diverging, learning the local language. The Inaden in North Africa have their own language/cant that they use to keep the Tuareg in the dark.

    I would love to get genomics on African blacksmith castes. Would we find lineages like the Levy and Cohen Y-chromosomes in Jews? Interestingly, Jews were associated with metalworking back in the day. This suggests that maybe smithing was the magic that kept Jews in demand and “a” people despite wide dispersal. Like, why did the Babylonians go to all the trouble of relocating the Jews? Killing the men and keeping nubile women as sex slaves worked for the heroes of the Iliad.

  265. @Obstinate Cymric
    @Right_On

    They still exist in the English Lake District.

    https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2017/jun/02/kill-them-the-volunteer-army-plotting-to-wipe-out-britains-grey-squirrels

    https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2017/feb/24/red-squirrels-5000-volunteers-sought-to-save-species-and-help-kill-invasive-greys


    Red squirrel conservation is not like most other efforts to save wildlife. It consists of exterminating one rival species: the grey squirrel. A few weeks after the death of her red squirrels, Bailey began to fight back on the side of the reds. She set up strategically placed feeders so that she could pull up quietly in her car, wind down her window and shoot the greys with an air rifle. Her husband got a gun and joined in. The first time I spoke to Bailey by telephone, I asked her how many squirrels she and Phil had eliminated since they began. She paused. I could hear the clicking of a mouse through a spreadsheet. “Four hundred and sixty nine,” she replied.

    When I visited her home a month later, I found a shrine to the red squirrel. The time was told by a red squirrel clock, the woodburner was adorned with cast-iron squirrels, Bailey’s study walls and carpet were squirrel-red; there were ornamental squirrels made by a local sculptor, a red squirrel jigsaw, goblet, boot brush, paperweight and piggybank. We drank tea from red squirrel mugs, and sat by a grey-coloured freezer. When I asked what was inside, Bailey opened the door and pulled out neatly butchered hunks of grey squirrel. “All our greys go in that freezer and we eat them. Not everyone’s cup of tea, but that’s what we do. Very healthy meat. Phil loves his squirrel curry, because he just loves curry. I love it in a stew, so it falls off the bone like pulled pork.” Bailey was collecting the pelts to make a grey waistcoat.
     
    Grey squirrel meat is dry and nutty (our hazel trees are picked clean by greys every autumn).

    Replies: @John Johnson, @Anonymous

    Interesting article with dashes of leftism:

    Some consider the grey squirrel one of these “alien” invaders imperilling the red. But is its slaughter a futile expression of nativist xenophobia?

    Ah so trying to stop an invasive species means you have a medical fear of foreigners and your efforts are futile.

    Good Lord the left has truly lost it.

    Anyone that opposes killing non-native species should open their doors to Norway rats.

  266. @Jack D
    @Ghost of Bull Moose

    Actually he reminds me of the late Peter Cushing ("Tarkin" in Star Wars):

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/5/5a/Grand_Moff_Tarkin.png

    Zenmour is a Sephardic Jew from Algeria. The Nazis (and Vichy) really did a number on the Ashkenazi Jewish population of France but then with the loss of Algeria they had an large influx of Sephardic Jews.

    Replies: @Inquiring Mind

    I never thought of it this way, but has anyone noticed that Tarkin in Star Wars is wearing a blister pack for dispensing daily doses of female oral contraceptives as the “fruit salad” on his military uniform?

  267. @Corvinus
    @Alec Leamas (working from home)

    "This is silly “noble savage” nonsense."

    Nope.

    https://americanindian.si.edu/nk360/manhattan/different-views-land/different-views-land.cshtml

    To Europeans, land was a commodity, an item which could be bought and sold and assigned to an individual owner. Native Americans, did not appreciate the notion of land as a commodity, especially not in terms of individual ownership. As a result, Indian groups would sell land, but in their minds had only sold the rights to use the lands. It seems, in fact, that when they sold land to the Dutch they did not give up their right to occupy it either. The famous purchase of Manhattan Island for sixty guilders loses some of its impact as a great real estate deal when one considers that the Indians probably never intended to give it up, but rather to “lease” it for Dutch use while they continued to occupy it.

    Replies: @Rosie, @Rob

    It seems, in fact, that when they sold land to the Dutch they did not give up their right to occupy it either.

    I’ve never understood the force of this argument. Wouldn’t it imply that the Indians intended to, and believed they were, in fact, scamming the colonists?

    • Replies: @Corvinus
    @Rosie

    Nope. They lacked the knowledge and context to comprehend what was a "scam" and how to initiate a "scam".

    Replies: @Rosie

  268. @Rosie
    @Corvinus


    It seems, in fact, that when they sold land to the Dutch they did not give up their right to occupy it either.
     
    I've never understood the force of this argument. Wouldn't it imply that the Indians intended to, and believed they were, in fact, scamming the colonists?

    Replies: @Corvinus

    Nope. They lacked the knowledge and context to comprehend what was a “scam” and how to initiate a “scam”.

    • Replies: @Rosie
    @Corvinus


    Nope. They lacked the knowledge and context to comprehend what was a “scam” and how to initiate a “scam”.
     
    Semantics, lol.

    No, I'm pretty sure they knew exactly what it means to rip someone off. That is a human universal. Aren't we all the same under the sin, Corvinus?

    Replies: @Corvinus

  269. @Corvinus
    @Alec Leamas (working from home)

    "This is silly “noble savage” nonsense."

    Nope.

    https://americanindian.si.edu/nk360/manhattan/different-views-land/different-views-land.cshtml

    To Europeans, land was a commodity, an item which could be bought and sold and assigned to an individual owner. Native Americans, did not appreciate the notion of land as a commodity, especially not in terms of individual ownership. As a result, Indian groups would sell land, but in their minds had only sold the rights to use the lands. It seems, in fact, that when they sold land to the Dutch they did not give up their right to occupy it either. The famous purchase of Manhattan Island for sixty guilders loses some of its impact as a great real estate deal when one considers that the Indians probably never intended to give it up, but rather to “lease” it for Dutch use while they continued to occupy it.

    Replies: @Rosie, @Rob

    By selling land some Indians (I’m sure the Aztecs had some system by which rich/noble men owned land) were probably not even leasing the land, else they would have said something like, “you have this land for x years. Then it is ours again.

    What they were likely selling was non-exclusive use. Whites could be there/hunt there/farm there, and that group (band, “tribe” subtribe, whatever) would not like the men on sight and rape the women. And after the torture, rape, and murder of the parents, they might adopt the children into their tribe/band.

    I think European interaction with the Indians is fascinating. It gives us a window into what interactions between the first states and their neighbors were probably like. I don’t know who made the first bronze spearpoint or ax, but I’ll bet it was not a fantastic time for their neighbors. As bad as alcohol was for Indians shows a plausible scenario for the earliest old world creation of alcohol. Most likely it was awful. Mothers drinking themselves to death, but no one wanted to raise their children, some of whom had fetal alcohol syndrome, so they starved to death.

    [MORE]

    The earliest settled life with domestic animals must have been great. All the meat they could want. But after the first few diseases crossed over, the plagues must have been horrendous. After a few generations, when there had been some selection for resistance to those diseases and all the adults had acquired immunity, the diseases probably aided them in conquering neighbors. Virgin soil epidemics are rough.

    Native North Americans were worthless as slaves. They’d die like flies. They were not into toil… The earliest slave takers must’ve been as disappointed as the English colonists. I have read that early slavers did not bother taking adults. Nubile women excepted, of course. They preferred kids and early teens. Young enough that they did not have ingrained habits. Also, they did not know enough culture to just walk away and live hand to mouth until they found others of their ethnicity. Have also read that much later Europeans preferred fairly young African slaves over adults.

    Indians had a lot of trouble adopting/stealing the colonists’ tech. I don’t mean they would not use a metal hatchet or boomstick. I mean they did not figure out how to mine, refine oar, run a blacksmith shop, or mix their own gunpowder. Neighbors of early innovators probably had a very hard time adopting their enemy’s tech. Come to think of it, in North Africa, there is a caste of smiths/tinkers/ironworkers who look very, well um, negroid.

    The Tuareg, a herding/raiding Muslim people of North Africa think the blacksmith caste, the Ineden, or Inaden are both stupid and wily. The internet suggests that lots of African regions had blacksmith castes. Coupling the Native American inability to adopt/copy colonists’ tech suggests that African ironworking, which was independently invented had a single origin. Some clan/tribe/village figured out iron, from mining ore to smelting and smithing. Other Africans could not copy it, much like the Indians and our smithing. So the ironworking bunch specialized in iron. For us HBDers, it suggests that they became more adapted to smithing. What would that entail? Well, they’d be selected to be willing to stand at a forge all day. They’d be selected for visuospatial ability, for tool use. Things the Tuareg, for example, were not selected to do.

    The first smiths had a very special magic. The kind that worked. Being in demand, they gradually/quickly spread throughout Africa, remaining endogamous but diverging, learning the local language. The Inaden in North Africa have their own language/cant that they use to keep the Tuareg in the dark.

    I would love to get genomics on African blacksmith castes. Would we find lineages like the Levy and Cohen Y-chromosomes in Jews? Interestingly, Jews were associated with metalworking back in the day. This suggests that maybe smithing was the magic that kept Jews in demand and “a” people despite wide dispersal. Like, why did the Babylonians go to all the trouble of relocating the Jews? Killing the men and keeping nubile women as sex slaves worked for the heroes of the Iliad.

  270. @Obstinate Cymric
    @Right_On

    They still exist in the English Lake District.

    https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2017/jun/02/kill-them-the-volunteer-army-plotting-to-wipe-out-britains-grey-squirrels

    https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2017/feb/24/red-squirrels-5000-volunteers-sought-to-save-species-and-help-kill-invasive-greys


    Red squirrel conservation is not like most other efforts to save wildlife. It consists of exterminating one rival species: the grey squirrel. A few weeks after the death of her red squirrels, Bailey began to fight back on the side of the reds. She set up strategically placed feeders so that she could pull up quietly in her car, wind down her window and shoot the greys with an air rifle. Her husband got a gun and joined in. The first time I spoke to Bailey by telephone, I asked her how many squirrels she and Phil had eliminated since they began. She paused. I could hear the clicking of a mouse through a spreadsheet. “Four hundred and sixty nine,” she replied.

    When I visited her home a month later, I found a shrine to the red squirrel. The time was told by a red squirrel clock, the woodburner was adorned with cast-iron squirrels, Bailey’s study walls and carpet were squirrel-red; there were ornamental squirrels made by a local sculptor, a red squirrel jigsaw, goblet, boot brush, paperweight and piggybank. We drank tea from red squirrel mugs, and sat by a grey-coloured freezer. When I asked what was inside, Bailey opened the door and pulled out neatly butchered hunks of grey squirrel. “All our greys go in that freezer and we eat them. Not everyone’s cup of tea, but that’s what we do. Very healthy meat. Phil loves his squirrel curry, because he just loves curry. I love it in a stew, so it falls off the bone like pulled pork.” Bailey was collecting the pelts to make a grey waistcoat.
     
    Grey squirrel meat is dry and nutty (our hazel trees are picked clean by greys every autumn).

    Replies: @John Johnson, @Anonymous

    My auntie used to have a stuffed red squirrel – part of a ‘naturalistic’ Edwardian style display, containing a tree branch – in her living room.

  271. @Corvinus
    @Rosie

    Nope. They lacked the knowledge and context to comprehend what was a "scam" and how to initiate a "scam".

    Replies: @Rosie

    Nope. They lacked the knowledge and context to comprehend what was a “scam” and how to initiate a “scam”.

    Semantics, lol.

    No, I’m pretty sure they knew exactly what it means to rip someone off. That is a human universal. Aren’t we all the same under the sin, Corvinus?

    • Replies: @Corvinus
    @Rosie

    “No, I’m pretty sure they knew exactly what it means to rip someone off.”

    You’re assuming they had that frame of reference prior to European jackbooting.

    “Aren’t we all the same under the sin, Corvinus?“

    No. Haven’t you heard? Women are subservient to men.

  272. @Rosie
    @Corvinus


    Nope. They lacked the knowledge and context to comprehend what was a “scam” and how to initiate a “scam”.
     
    Semantics, lol.

    No, I'm pretty sure they knew exactly what it means to rip someone off. That is a human universal. Aren't we all the same under the sin, Corvinus?

    Replies: @Corvinus

    “No, I’m pretty sure they knew exactly what it means to rip someone off.”

    You’re assuming they had that frame of reference prior to European jackbooting.

    “Aren’t we all the same under the sin, Corvinus?“

    No. Haven’t you heard? Women are subservient to men.

    • Troll: YetAnotherAnon
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