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Vox explains why it’s not racist to be racist against whites:
The “controversy” over journalist Sarah Jeong joining the New York Times, explained
In standing by its decision to hire the well-known tech journalist, the Times shut down a major bullying tactic of the alt-right.
By Aja [email protected] Aug 3, 2018, 2:20pm EDT… After the New York Times announced Jeong’s hiring, the alt-right used her old tweets to accuse her of being racist against white people …
In tweets like the one embedded above, Jeong appeared to be commenting on the idea that white people often believe they are being discriminated against when they aren’t. To equate “being mean to white people” with the actual systemic oppression and marginalization of minority groups is a false equivalency.
Racism is the greatest sin of our age … except against whites … who are either too superhuman or too subhuman that they shouldn’t mind.
White man marginalizing the Megaphone
I’m starting to call this the “Immaculate Conception theory” of racism. Anyone who is not a cishet whitemale is born without the Original Sin of racism on their soul.
It astonishing the amount of cultural power that used to be wielded by people like Vox, the NYT, ad nauseum, whose whole schtick pretty much consists of talking to each other, agreeing, and amplifying. Haven’t they noticed no one else is listening anymore, or are they all just still absorbed in their little circle jerk? Shouldn’t they at least have a clue that they increasingly have to close comments on their Stevebait stories or are they just dismissing them as Russian ‘bots?
The notion that 'systematic oppression' characterizes the lives of blacks or mestizos (much less our rather bourgeois Oriental and East Indian population) is a tell that the man recites incantations and knows nothing of the country in which they live. There are quality-of-life deficits among black populations, but they are there because the institutions of the larger society are delinquent in sequestering the hoodlums and incorrigibles who live among impecunious working-class blacks. There's blame to go around for that. Who fancies Eleanor Holmes Norton gives a rip about law enforcement or school discipline?Replies: @Buffalo Joe, @Mis(ter)Anthrope, @Anonym
You want to see systematic oppression and marginalization of minority groups? This is how it’s done. Half a century of amnesia is right.
This is one reason to avoid the term racist, and use “anti-white”. Even the leftist MSM is now picking it up, like the term White Nationalist. For one, it gives the left a new context that it is hard to argue with. And it also undermines the currency of the term “racist/racism”, forged as they were by cultural Marxists or actual Marxists.
I enjoy demography--or at least find it interesting. The last time i looked through the CDC birth data a few years back Hispanics were already near 25% of the births. I.e. near a million out of four million a year. (They'd gone over a million a year--25%--during peak bubble but have ebbed back maybe a percent.) And they continue to have higher fertility--though it's gone down--than any other major racial group. And they continue to come--legally and illegally.
There's simply no way you get from those realities to 24% Hispanic 50 years out.
You'll be at 24% in 35 years, with immigration closed. And while much, much larger immigration flows from other regions could hold that number in check, is it really plausible that Hispanics will be <24% of our immigration flows anytime soon? And if that happens what would be the source to make it happen--seems like that would take a flood of blacks along the lines of Steve's "world's most important graph". Which is contradicted by the black percentage.
Given that the current birth cohorts are something like:
50% White
23% Hispanic
16% Black
7% Asian
4% other
and these cohorts will be solidly in the old half--50years old--in 2065, their model--barring some striking changes in immigration policy and fertility rates is impossible.
Just throwing out a SWAG, but i think much more realistic for 2065--unless we really turn it around--would be something like:
-- 41% White
-- 30% "Hispanic"
-- 10% Asian
-- 16% Black
-- 4% "other"
(1% both black and Hispanic). And that's *not* allowing a big surge from Africa.Replies: @Anonym
What clearer sign could there be of the fact that whites systematically oppress non-whites than that non-whites who express their hatred of whites are promoted, whereas whites who express their hatred of non-whites are fired?
The term ‘racism’ might have referred to a nexus of attitudes and beliefs 60 years ago. Now it’s just a verbal trump card meant to dictate the direction of public discourse. The rage contra Trump is that he gets along fine by ignoring media-manufactured sh!tstorms or telling the generators of hue-and-cry to get stuffed. If refusing to apologize or be cowed in to silence catches on, they’ve lost the main source of their influence as well as some self-congratulatory props.
The notion that ‘systematic oppression’ characterizes the lives of blacks or mestizos (much less our rather bourgeois Oriental and East Indian population) is a tell that the man recites incantations and knows nothing of the country in which they live. There are quality-of-life deficits among black populations, but they are there because the institutions of the larger society are delinquent in sequestering the hoodlums and incorrigibles who live among impecunious working-class blacks. There’s blame to go around for that. Who fancies Eleanor Holmes Norton gives a rip about law enforcement or school discipline?
You are correct sir. Contrast Trump with the feeble-minded, buffoon George W. Bush who stated that the event that upset him the most during his presidency was when some negro rapper called him a racist after the hurricane hit New Orleans.
Being called a racist by a negro upset him, not the fact that he killed millions of people, including thousands of US military men, under the false pretenses that Saddam Hussein had nuclear weapons. That apparently doesn't bother him at all.
The Bush reaction is what left demands of all white men. You must be very upset if someone "of color" calls you a racist and grovel like a bitch to prove that you love them. Failure to do so proves that you are a racist.Replies: @AndrewR
It always was thus as it is used now. The term was invented by (((Trotsky))) for the purposes it is currently used, to attack non-Jewish whites.
https://traditionalreview.com/2018/06/21/yes-trotsky-coined-the-word-racist/Replies: @AndrewR, @Harry Baldwin
The notion that 'systematic oppression' characterizes the lives of blacks or mestizos (much less our rather bourgeois Oriental and East Indian population) is a tell that the man recites incantations and knows nothing of the country in which they live. There are quality-of-life deficits among black populations, but they are there because the institutions of the larger society are delinquent in sequestering the hoodlums and incorrigibles who live among impecunious working-class blacks. There's blame to go around for that. Who fancies Eleanor Holmes Norton gives a rip about law enforcement or school discipline?Replies: @Buffalo Joe, @Mis(ter)Anthrope, @Anonym
Art, nicely said.
I’ve often thought that black power will be discredited when black leadership goes on an idealistic crusade, perhaps a military foray into Africa, with Rwanda acting as Munich.
If this isn’t racist, then nothing is racist.
Humpty Dumpty is controlling here:
"When I use a word," Humpty Dumpty said, in rather a scornful tone, "it means just what I choose it to mean—neither more nor less."
"The question is," said Alice, "whether you can make words mean so many different things."
"The question is," said Humpty Dumpty, "which is to be master—that's all."
From Through the Looking Glass, the sequel to Alice in Wonderland.Replies: @Buffalo Joe
Always on topic RamZPaul:
This is the epitome of having your cake and eating it too. You can use racial pejoratives against your enemies, but it is wrong for them to do that.
Like Art said, at this point “racism” is just a rhetorical whip, like “fascism.”
Interesting contrast to how NYT treated Razib Khan.
That guy is thin-skinned as hell.
So if I go to Japan and write/say those kinds of things about Japanese people, it’s not racist? I just want to make sure I understand the rules here.
The whole power + privilege = racism thing should’ve been nipped in the bud decades ago when it was rolled out of sociology departments.
This is what happens you don’t regulate academia.
Actually, what it really means is that even the slightest bit of criticism can cause the leftist coalition to implode at any time so you always need to keep the focus on whitey. If you think the amount of patrolling is high now, just wait until the pressure increases.
white men are just triggered because they miss their ability to be racist with no consequences just like the good ole days, and need another scapegoat, when they talk trash themselves,
don’t you people defend freedom of speech adamantly when youdefend their own beliefs?
hypocrites
The youth are against you
Wonder if this jeong chick realizes that if not for white males she would be eating twigs and grass right now.
‘To equate “being mean to white people” with the actual systemic oppression and marginalization of minority groups is a false equivalency.’
Yesterday my local AM radio station proudly advertised millions in gubmint grants available only to women, historically underrepresented minorities (?) and one other sainted intersectionality designee, I can’t remember which. IOW, white men need not apply. And I’ve heard such blatant androphobic, Europhobic bigotry many times before.
Apparently actual systemic oppression and marginalization of majority groups is A-OK.
That photograph is the Bar at the Folies-Bergère of our time. Seriously.
https://youtu.be/4tg_P6-0Nds
https://www.nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/amp/2018/08/sarah-jeong-new-york-times-anti-white-racism.html
Very good article about Jeong.
It’s amusing to notice the new wave of “Russophobia” among genteel New Class types. I live in N. California and find the local Russian & Uke immigrants slightly obnoxious — they don’t make a public display, but clearly come from “low trust” cultures as evidenced by their tendency for scamming and exploiting everyone else’s property (and each other’s FAIK). Also their personalities run the gamut from insincere wheedling to pushy/crass; they’re like Middle Easterners minus the sexism. But unlike Jews, Italians and Irish and more lately Armenians & Chinese they don’t have their own well established pressure group that hounds hapless media flunkies for every story that might put Russkies in a negative light. So if you’re too much of a coward to be a Sarah Jeong tweet-sturmer, bashing Russians is an acceptable, oddly compliant mode of anti-white kvetching now…
This is tiresome cliche, the same old PC nonsense.
I say it’s about time whites accepted race-ism and wore it like a badge.
Things will begin to change ONLY WHEN whites redefine race-ism properly. Ism means belief and we need to believe in race which is real and that means racial differences are real.
Jeong fits the racial stereotype. Such an obedient good little yellow doggy sucking up to the Power.
But then, Khan treats anyone who disagrees with him the same way.
That guy is thin-skinned as hell.
I am sure if she said that about Jews they’d be saying the same thing….
And that IS important… the Jewish elite are doing exactly what their ancestors- in some cases direct ancestors- did in Bolshevik Russia- assemble a coalition of ‘the worst’ those with the deepest sociopathy towards population they want to exterminate. But like the NKVD an Checka, they will maintain control and make sure the pathological behavior doesn’t’ become ‘hate’ (e.g. directed at Jews)
And don’t think that isn’t their intention. It it is difficult to imagine the degree of paranoia and hysteria in their unbalanced minds, and in the same way the Bolshiviks jailed and suprressed Jews who opposed them, Paul Gotfried, Mark Levin, etc. will be in gulags with us…
The notion that 'systematic oppression' characterizes the lives of blacks or mestizos (much less our rather bourgeois Oriental and East Indian population) is a tell that the man recites incantations and knows nothing of the country in which they live. There are quality-of-life deficits among black populations, but they are there because the institutions of the larger society are delinquent in sequestering the hoodlums and incorrigibles who live among impecunious working-class blacks. There's blame to go around for that. Who fancies Eleanor Holmes Norton gives a rip about law enforcement or school discipline?Replies: @Buffalo Joe, @Mis(ter)Anthrope, @Anonym
“The rage contra Trump is that he gets along fine by ignoring media-manufactured sh!tstorms or telling the generators of hue-and-cry to get stuffed. If refusing to apologize or be cowed in to silence catches on, they’ve lost the main source of their influence as well as some self-congratulatory props.”
You are correct sir. Contrast Trump with the feeble-minded, buffoon George W. Bush who stated that the event that upset him the most during his presidency was when some negro rapper called him a racist after the hurricane hit New Orleans.
Being called a racist by a negro upset him, not the fact that he killed millions of people, including thousands of US military men, under the false pretenses that Saddam Hussein had nuclear weapons. That apparently doesn’t bother him at all.
The Bush reaction is what left demands of all white men. You must be very upset if someone “of color” calls you a racist and grovel like a bitch to prove that you love them. Failure to do so proves that you are a racist.
I’d come to the conclusion that, as in so much public discourse where everything is racist, then nothing is racist. I may have been mistaken.
Humpty Dumpty is controlling here:
“When I use a word,” Humpty Dumpty said, in rather a scornful tone, “it means just what I choose it to mean—neither more nor less.”
“The question is,” said Alice, “whether you can make words mean so many different things.”
“The question is,” said Humpty Dumpty, “which is to be master—that’s all.”
From Through the Looking Glass, the sequel to Alice in Wonderland.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/image/9662126-3x2-700x467.jpg
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/0d/Edouard_Manet%2C_A_Bar_at_the_Folies-Bergère.jpgReplies: @MikeatMikedotMike
Once oppressive white baristas are cleansed from history, we can look forward to prompt service along these lines:
“Racist against Whites” is a poor term in my opinion. It legitimizes the view that there is something wrong with noticing race.
Just call them anti-White.
Today TPTB have decreed that anyone can say anything they want to white people.
Tomorrow it’ll be anyone can do anything they want to white people.
We’re nearly there. Such is “privilege”.
Aja Romano’s word salad will give you cryptosporidium.
Very good article about Jeong.Replies: @Anonymous, @Wally
Thanks for the link. I’m no great fan of Andrew Sullivan but I wasn’t too surprised that it was he who thus transgressed. For NY Mag it’s sort of edgy.
Of course, in the next segment he does get in some standard anti-Trump gibes in order to maintain his bona fides: “America was founded in cruelty.” Trump’s immigration policy “was a premeditated, conscious attempt to hurt vulnerable children in order to deter future would-be asylum seekers.” Etc.
How many people “equate” these situations?
Most people are equating making mean comments about white people with… making mean comments about minorities, a sure way of getting sacked. Most of what gets exposed as unacceptable racism nowadays amounts to no more than isolated mean comments made by people with no power to structuraly opress their targets.
It is all about power and control. There are no rules or lofty principles. They are bullies. The rules are whatever works to shut us up.
A minority tweets tomahto and gets a better job. A white guy tweets tomato, they scream “racist” and he is quickly fired.
White privilege is great!
I wish that commenters on this and other threads and forums would desist from calling non-whites “SJW’s”. Only white people can be SJW’s since only whites will promote the interests of other ethnic groups even when – or especially when – it is to the detriment of their own. Non whites would never do that. They adopt the language of SJW-ism and pretend to share the white SJW belief system but are really just in it to gain power and influence – and jobs and money – for their own ethnic group.
I have the same problem with commenters calling non white liberal/lefty men “cucks”. A cuck can only be a white man, since only whites will raise another m,an’s ideology. With non-whites its all about using the language of liberal/leftism to acquire power and resources for their own kind.
There's little difference between Sarah Jeong and Farrakhan.
The notion that 'systematic oppression' characterizes the lives of blacks or mestizos (much less our rather bourgeois Oriental and East Indian population) is a tell that the man recites incantations and knows nothing of the country in which they live. There are quality-of-life deficits among black populations, but they are there because the institutions of the larger society are delinquent in sequestering the hoodlums and incorrigibles who live among impecunious working-class blacks. There's blame to go around for that. Who fancies Eleanor Holmes Norton gives a rip about law enforcement or school discipline?Replies: @Buffalo Joe, @Mis(ter)Anthrope, @Anonym
The term ‘racism’ might have referred to a nexus of attitudes and beliefs 60 years ago. Now it’s just a verbal trump card meant to dictate the direction of public discourse.
It always was thus as it is used now. The term was invented by (((Trotsky))) for the purposes it is currently used, to attack non-Jewish whites.
https://traditionalreview.com/2018/06/21/yes-trotsky-coined-the-word-racist/
There's no question that some Jews supported the Civil Rights movement as part of a larger strategy against white goyim per se, but it does no one any good to equate the current year definition of racism with the very real racism that existed long after Trotsky was killed.
From The Century Dictionary and Cyclopedia (1910), Volume 12, p. 856:
Negrophobia: Fear of the Negro; strong antipathy to the Negro.
Negrophobiac: One who exhibits Negrophobia.
Well… Both of those claims are true, although I probably wouldn’t have written them.
I have the same problem with commenters calling non white liberal/lefty men "cucks". A cuck can only be a white man, since only whites will raise another m,an's ideology. With non-whites its all about using the language of liberal/leftism to acquire power and resources for their own kind.Replies: @AndrewR, @Drake
I disagree on a few levels.
First, SJWism isn’t just about race. I do not doubt that Sarah Jeong hates Korean men just as much as she hates white women. Perhaps more. Her hatred is intersectional.
Also, SJWism can be viewed as a vehicle for “non-white” ethnic chauvinisms, but it’s not the only vehicle. Some black supremacists, for instance, are SJWs, but not all black supremacists buy into SJWism or even pretend to.
As for “non-white” “cucks”, again, it depends. A man can be a political cuck in one area but not others. And a non-white SJW male can be a cuck on race too, just seldom to whites. Who/whom.
Matt Yglesias and Ezra Klein get all wonky and discuss The Great White Panic and Ezra’s recent article White Threat in a Browning America in the latest episode of The Weeds podcast. At the 1:17 mark of the intro to the podcast, Ezra Klein laughs about the number of states where White People dying exceed the number being born. What’s so funny there Ezra?
Who knew Vox was so hardcore? Apparently, as the Jeong tweets reveal, there is a whole school of comedy out there that I was not aware of.
https://art19.com/shows/the-weeds/episodes/9bdbc1e4-0f3b-4f8d-8f35-b8ef0e677d62
At 12:22, Matt Yglesias reaches levels of peak uptalk as he reveals that Ezra Klein is of Brazilian heritage making them both Latinos! Apparently, Ezra and Matt consider themselves as representative of American Latinos. I am not sure of that, but I do believe that Ezra and Matt represent the future of the Latino Elite in America. Their identities explain in part why Ezra and Matty believe that race is a social construct as they are socially constructing themselves as representative of American Latinos. Kind of fascinating.
At 15:08, they point out that Trump can’t win in 2020 because of deaths in the White demographic or as Ezra giggles “aging out of the electorate“. Classy.
Considering what our future Latino Overlords find so funny, maybe White Panic is not such a bad idea?
It always was thus as it is used now. The term was invented by (((Trotsky))) for the purposes it is currently used, to attack non-Jewish whites.
https://traditionalreview.com/2018/06/21/yes-trotsky-coined-the-word-racist/Replies: @AndrewR, @Harry Baldwin
Well Jim Crow laws were far more than “attitudes and beliefs,” and they were unambiguously racist.
There’s no question that some Jews supported the Civil Rights movement as part of a larger strategy against white goyim per se, but it does no one any good to equate the current year definition of racism with the very real racism that existed long after Trotsky was killed.
“White man marginalizing the Megaphone”?
Brilliant.
You are correct sir. Contrast Trump with the feeble-minded, buffoon George W. Bush who stated that the event that upset him the most during his presidency was when some negro rapper called him a racist after the hurricane hit New Orleans.
Being called a racist by a negro upset him, not the fact that he killed millions of people, including thousands of US military men, under the false pretenses that Saddam Hussein had nuclear weapons. That apparently doesn't bother him at all.
The Bush reaction is what left demands of all white men. You must be very upset if someone "of color" calls you a racist and grovel like a bitch to prove that you love them. Failure to do so proves that you are a racist.Replies: @AndrewR
Any mention of that “negro rapper” calling out Dubya should include the 2018 update where Kanye has basically been excommunicated from the negro community for supporting Trump (and saying a silly thing about slavery).
I have the same problem with commenters calling non white liberal/lefty men "cucks". A cuck can only be a white man, since only whites will raise another m,an's ideology. With non-whites its all about using the language of liberal/leftism to acquire power and resources for their own kind.Replies: @AndrewR, @Drake
One of the ironies of white leftism is that they claim to oppose nationalism, but their positions just end up promoting nationalist attitudes among nonwhites.
There’s little difference between Sarah Jeong and Farrakhan.
I glad Vox clarified that for us.
I guess since Jews are Caucasians, and Caucasians are subhuman scum with no dignity or individuality, we need to re-write the history books claiming the Nazi’s were a racist party. Jews are white, and so you can’t be racist against Jews. The only problem with the Nazi’s is the scope of their hatred and dehumanization wasn’t wide enough for today’s Progs.
Turns out the Nazis were only seeking to purify the Volk of a particular form of white privilege, and should be recognized as the “woke” social justice warriors of their time. Now we are expanding the “circle of concern” to the whole Caucasian genetic line.
Im not certain Stevebait is preferred by our mod. No that there is anything wrong with that…
What do the leaders and subjects of Wakanda say about Sarah Jeong?
“Systematic?” Like, day, every single MSM (except for Tucker Carlson) supporting anti-White views? It appears the Left is determined to succeed where White nationalists failed: at forging a coherent and real White American identity. The future is weird.
There are days – and today is one of those days – when I wish I could go back to those golden days of yore, which our written history books tell us existed, and oppress the ever-loving dogsh!t out of the nearest POC.
I take solace in knowing a “truth” stated by a 300 IQ black man during the height of the BLM movement that “White silence is White violence,” and sit back and be quiet; as quiet as I can be.
What exactly happened to BLM anyway? Did they run out of government funding, or something?
There’s little difference between Sarah Jeong and Farrakhan.
An important difference is that Sarah Jeong is an attack dog for the ruling class. She has been groomed, mentored and trained to be just that.
I think it predates that. Its emblematic of advanced thought around the darwinian galton era, and long before that among sailors, explorers, settlers. Primary source observations. One thing seldom mentioned here or anywhere is how small the population was until the early modern period. ( Steve stuff excepted here as hes written extensively on concepts of exponential ancestors )
Best estimates of North American population, including all of Alaska and Canada preceding European contact are 1-1.5 mm. This was in great contrast to the large population centers of modern day Mexico city, and Andean Peru, likened to Paris and Seville by Cortes and several others.
White privilege is something to behold.
The privilege to uphold the expectations of others, especially any non-white racial/ethnic identity group.
The privilege to not coalesce as an identity group.
The privilege to not have a culture.
The privilege to let everyone go ahead of you.
The privilege of being downhill, where the shit flows.
The privilege of being implicitly racist, by definition.
The privilege of being responsible for what ails all non-white people.
The privilege to share one’s bounty.
To be continued…
Very good article about Jeong.Replies: @Anonymous, @Wally
Andrew, yes I read that. Thanks for posting.
Nasty water washes dirty vegetables. This is why I want robots picking the lettuce and tomatoes.
Humpty Dumpty is controlling here:
"When I use a word," Humpty Dumpty said, in rather a scornful tone, "it means just what I choose it to mean—neither more nor less."
"The question is," said Alice, "whether you can make words mean so many different things."
"The question is," said Humpty Dumpty, "which is to be master—that's all."
From Through the Looking Glass, the sequel to Alice in Wonderland.Replies: @Buffalo Joe
Forbes, not as well stated as your comment, but truly, if this isn’t racist, then truly, nothing is racist.
This is so silly. What’s going on is that the critical studies guys just redefined the word “racism” so that it doesn’t apply to whites. Fine, just say that. “Using the meaning of ‘racism’ used by many social scientists, whites cannot be the victims of racism.”
The word preexisted this redefinition. These guys don’t own the word. Using the linguistics concept of descriptive lexicography, you can indeed apply the word to bigotry against whites. In other words, a word means what native speakers take it to mean. There is no word god dictating the meaning of a word. That theory, discredited by modern linguists, is called prescriptive lexicography. If a lexicographer compiles a corpus of usage for racism, something that you can find in the Oxford English Dictionary, it will include many examples of the word “racism” used by native speakers, including black native speakers, to describe bigotry against whites. The same goes for the phrase “reverse racism.”
So a more coherent statement than “whites cannot be the victim of racism” would be “racist-like speech against whites does not harm them as much as similar speech against blacks … because blacks are super fragile about this stuff due to the fact that they are followed around in stores, people ask to touch their hair, 10 percent of them are killed by cops every year, and they have been victims of discriminatory ‘standardized tests.’ Oh, and also in the distant past they were like chained up or something.”
there is no such thing as “reverse racism”, it either is or it isn’t, the reverse would be no racism.
Are you kidding? Looking up old tweets, writings or appearances and using it to try to get someone fired or rejected for consideration for a judgeship, etc., is a tactic of the alt-right? That crap was invented and perfected by the left.
Trump has gone to great lengths to highlight the democrats’ support of open borders and abolishing ICE. This is smart since immigration is the biggest issue this year. But he really needs to hit this anti-white thing hard from here until November. Too many whites still think they have a home in the democrat party. They need to be set straight.
https://art19.com/shows/the-weeds/episodes/9bdbc1e4-0f3b-4f8d-8f35-b8ef0e677d62
At 12:22, Matt Yglesias reaches levels of peak uptalk as he reveals that Ezra Klein is of Brazilian heritage making them both Latinos! Apparently, Ezra and Matt consider themselves as representative of American Latinos. I am not sure of that, but I do believe that Ezra and Matt represent the future of the Latino Elite in America. Their identities explain in part why Ezra and Matty believe that race is a social construct as they are socially constructing themselves as representative of American Latinos. Kind of fascinating.At 15:08, they point out that Trump can't win in 2020 because of deaths in the White demographic or as Ezra giggles "aging out of the electorate". Classy.Considering what our future Latino Overlords find so funny, maybe White Panic is not such a bad idea?Replies: @Anonymous, @Anon
I wonder if they ever have any self-reflection..for a moment even, and consider what they’re doing… probably not…
It always was thus as it is used now. The term was invented by (((Trotsky))) for the purposes it is currently used, to attack non-Jewish whites.
https://traditionalreview.com/2018/06/21/yes-trotsky-coined-the-word-racist/Replies: @AndrewR, @Harry Baldwin
Fun fact: A century ago, what we now call racism was called “Negrophobia.”
From The Century Dictionary and Cyclopedia (1910), Volume 12, p. 856:
Negrophobia: Fear of the Negro; strong antipathy to the Negro.
Negrophobiac: One who exhibits Negrophobia.
Question for Vox: Why should I care about POC? I’m white, and not an SJW. I have even, on occasion, been accused of wearing that big scarlet R. Why should I care? Dont you want to change my mind?
> POC are oppressed
Phew! Glad it’s not me.
> We’ll call you names
Meh. You’ll do it whether I change my mind or not and either way I’m not 5 so I dont care.
>We’ll dox you and get you fired.
Not likely in the scheme of things. I’m nobody. Even if you could get me to break, I’d just be lying and secretly exerting (excreting?) My White Privilege all over the place.
>You’ll go to Hell
Lol if I do it wont be for this.
> We should treat each other with respect so the social fabric doesn’t decay into tribal warfare. It may seem funny now but it wont be when one of your family is killed for it.
Okay, that’s your first decent point. Tell me again how this doesn’t apply to POC and how they treat their white countrymen? Right. It’s asymmetrical warfare and the whites have caught on. It is not a lesson we will soon forget. Give respect to get respect or be prepared for what comes next.
Are Turks white?
They sure seem to be overrepresented in this compilation.
https://art19.com/shows/the-weeds/episodes/9bdbc1e4-0f3b-4f8d-8f35-b8ef0e677d62
At 12:22, Matt Yglesias reaches levels of peak uptalk as he reveals that Ezra Klein is of Brazilian heritage making them both Latinos! Apparently, Ezra and Matt consider themselves as representative of American Latinos. I am not sure of that, but I do believe that Ezra and Matt represent the future of the Latino Elite in America. Their identities explain in part why Ezra and Matty believe that race is a social construct as they are socially constructing themselves as representative of American Latinos. Kind of fascinating.At 15:08, they point out that Trump can't win in 2020 because of deaths in the White demographic or as Ezra giggles "aging out of the electorate". Classy.Considering what our future Latino Overlords find so funny, maybe White Panic is not such a bad idea?Replies: @Anonymous, @Anon
Whatever else one may say about them, they are gifted storytellers and rhetoricians. “The great white panic” is pretty effective. Why couldn’t someone on the other side have come up with something similar regarding Jewish and POC hysteria about Trump or the Gentile menace?
The left’s argument for systematic racism is that blacks and browns experience worse socio-economic outcomes than whites, which isn’t a bad argument if you have a blank slate view of race.
However, an overlooked floor in this argument is that a sizeable minority of blacks and browns (the talented tenth) don’t experience worse outcomes that whites, while working class whites experience noticeably worse outcomes than the top ten percent of blacks and browns. Hence, the talented tenth should always be taken to task when accusing whites in general of racism. Where is the objective evidence they are being repressed?Why should they be allowed to call whites in general racist when many whites are objectively worse off then they are? By leftist definitions of racism, a working class white can’t be accused of being racist to say, Barack Obama, since socio-economic underdogs can’t systematically repress the wealthy and powerful.
Hence, if you’re a mainstream right-winger who is unable to resort to race realism, follow intersectionality theory and post modern principles (only the victim can talk for the victim) and insist that only lower class blacks be allowed to bring forward claims of racism.
Can you recommend a good text on linguistics?
Never buy produce out of the back of a Mexican hoopty.
Reginald Denny was baptized alright.
That’s pretty solid advice unless ganja is included in the definition of “produce. ”
That’s funny, but sadly also true in leftist minds.
Trump Derangement Syndrome?
"The great white panic" is automatically discrediting of any concerns Whites have about their welfare, or any steps they may take to defend themselves. TDS lacks that particularized personal component, as well as the more robust implied explanation of the behavior (racism, insecurity). Also, TDS is somewhat ambiguous, as it could be interpreted as referring to the derangement of President Trump or his supporters. Maybe not the best idea to associate Trump with the word derangement. (Compare to associating "panic" with "White".)
If you don’t mind the paraquat headache, I suppose.
That is much inferior.
“The great white panic” is automatically discrediting of any concerns Whites have about their welfare, or any steps they may take to defend themselves. TDS lacks that particularized personal component, as well as the more robust implied explanation of the behavior (racism, insecurity). Also, TDS is somewhat ambiguous, as it could be interpreted as referring to the derangement of President Trump or his supporters. Maybe not the best idea to associate Trump with the word derangement. (Compare to associating “panic” with “White”.)
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This is one reason to avoid the term racist, and use "anti-white". Even the leftist MSM is now picking it up, like the term White Nationalist. For one, it gives the left a new context that it is hard to argue with. And it also undermines the currency of the term "racist/racism", forged as they were by cultural Marxists or actual Marxists.Replies: @AnotherDad, @Svigor
I’ll have to look through that Pew report, but at first glance, those projections look wildly optimistic.
I enjoy demography–or at least find it interesting. The last time i looked through the CDC birth data a few years back Hispanics were already near 25% of the births. I.e. near a million out of four million a year. (They’d gone over a million a year–25%–during peak bubble but have ebbed back maybe a percent.) And they continue to have higher fertility–though it’s gone down–than any other major racial group. And they continue to come–legally and illegally.
There’s simply no way you get from those realities to 24% Hispanic 50 years out.
You’ll be at 24% in 35 years, with immigration closed. And while much, much larger immigration flows from other regions could hold that number in check, is it really plausible that Hispanics will be <24% of our immigration flows anytime soon? And if that happens what would be the source to make it happen–seems like that would take a flood of blacks along the lines of Steve's "world's most important graph". Which is contradicted by the black percentage.
Given that the current birth cohorts are something like:
50% White
23% Hispanic
16% Black
7% Asian
4% other
and these cohorts will be solidly in the old half–50years old–in 2065, their model–barring some striking changes in immigration policy and fertility rates is impossible.
Just throwing out a SWAG, but i think much more realistic for 2065–unless we really turn it around–would be something like:
— 41% White
— 30% "Hispanic"
— 10% Asian
— 16% Black
— 4% "other"
(1% both black and Hispanic). And that's *not* allowing a big surge from Africa.
I don’t think the left can stop. Which is great because it means they can’t calibrate the heat to properly boil the frog.
This “it’s not racist to hate whites” thing means they can’t dial it back, which means a steady stream of whites moving to the altright.
Several of them are ships being beached deliberately, for scrapping (or some kind of maintenance?).
Don’t rule out insurance fraud. Particularly on the Mediterranean, Black, or Caspian Seas.
I enjoy demography--or at least find it interesting. The last time i looked through the CDC birth data a few years back Hispanics were already near 25% of the births. I.e. near a million out of four million a year. (They'd gone over a million a year--25%--during peak bubble but have ebbed back maybe a percent.) And they continue to have higher fertility--though it's gone down--than any other major racial group. And they continue to come--legally and illegally.
There's simply no way you get from those realities to 24% Hispanic 50 years out.
You'll be at 24% in 35 years, with immigration closed. And while much, much larger immigration flows from other regions could hold that number in check, is it really plausible that Hispanics will be <24% of our immigration flows anytime soon? And if that happens what would be the source to make it happen--seems like that would take a flood of blacks along the lines of Steve's "world's most important graph". Which is contradicted by the black percentage.
Given that the current birth cohorts are something like:
50% White
23% Hispanic
16% Black
7% Asian
4% other
and these cohorts will be solidly in the old half--50years old--in 2065, their model--barring some striking changes in immigration policy and fertility rates is impossible.
Just throwing out a SWAG, but i think much more realistic for 2065--unless we really turn it around--would be something like:
-- 41% White
-- 30% "Hispanic"
-- 10% Asian
-- 16% Black
-- 4% "other"
(1% both black and Hispanic). And that's *not* allowing a big surge from Africa.Replies: @Anonym
You are likely right. My point was that it’s a white extinction curve.
Hair of the dog, my friend. Hair of the dog.
Leftists hold the Humpty Dumpty theory of language (from Lewis Carroll). Words mean what Leftists say they mean, neither more nor less. “Racism” meant “prejudice and bigotry” fifty years ago. Now it means something else. That’s one reason (not the only one) that rational argument with a Leftist us so difficult. Words mean different things to them than they do to us, and their meanings keep changing.
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This is one reason to avoid the term racist, and use "anti-white". Even the leftist MSM is now picking it up, like the term White Nationalist. For one, it gives the left a new context that it is hard to argue with. And it also undermines the currency of the term "racist/racism", forged as they were by cultural Marxists or actual Marxists.Replies: @AnotherDad, @Svigor
I’ve never quite understood this. It’s like the enemy puts billions into researching, developing, and deploying a super-weapon, and we’re going to refuse to use it because…this is never quite explained. It’s like “nukes, those are the weapons of the infidel,” or something.
I’ve always thought that using the enemy’s super-weapon is a good idea, because you invested nothing in it but you can scoop it up and use it like anyone else, thus leveraging the billions they spent implementing it, free of charge; who gives a shit who forged it?
IMO, when we call them racist, we’re leveraging the same indoctrination they are when they use it, except against them.
And to go one better, they then respond with indifference, or better yet, “only whites can be racist,” undermining the effectiveness of their weapon which is itself revealed as the racist weapon of racists.
It’s also possible to undermine it with how it’s used, e.g., by saying it in a detached, James Spader kind of way, as if you’re describing the behavior of ants.
I see how DR3 has been used over the course of a lifetime, and it doesn't red pill. It doesn't break the conditioning. If you use "anti-white", it fosters a them vs us mindset. If you use "racist", it fosters a martyr attitude, of let's hold hands with all the colors of the world. You might tell off blacks murdering your people, but you won't phrase it like that, you'll instead preface it with remarks about how some of your best friends are black, and that it was a horrible thing that happened to that poor Emmett Till, lest any of your friends think you are racist. And when your friends notice you make a remark about some non-white murdering a white, they may say "Why are you stirring up racism, brah? You haven't been looking at the racist web sites?" And you'll say, nah, I don't want people to think I'm racist.
In exactly the same way, we've won the war of White Supremacist vs White Nationalist. The media now uses our term. They invested a lot in terming us White Supremacists, when all we want to do is control our countries and have them for ourselves. The WS term repels normies, and maybe WN does to some extent but a lot of people think - maybe these guys have a point.
Well it obviously makes Jewry the top of the American racist pecking order, so there’s that.
Or if you go to the US and write/say them about Jews.
Bashing Palestinians is another perennial. Zios and their cucks say stuff about Palestinians that makes WNs blush*.
* I was going to use some great example of the worst anti-black racist in history, but since I don’t really keep up with this sort of question, I had to resort to g**gle search. But their engine has declined so far that I could only get shitty democrat talking points like how Confederate monuments and flags must be destroyed, how Trump is literally Hitler, etc. Clown world.
No, to me it’s like being the VC and not agreeing to meet the USA in the open battle field with battle dress on. The USA has invested in these superweapons, but all you need is a tiny amount of materiel that comes in through a porous jungle border to continue to prosecute your war in a low key way, until they give up. It’s like the AK-47 vs M16 – if you have a large quantity of lower IQ people who aren’t too good at cleaning weapons, not much money, you want the AK. You don’t want the M16 even though it’s had a lot more money invested in it.
I see how DR3 has been used over the course of a lifetime, and it doesn’t red pill. It doesn’t break the conditioning. If you use “anti-white”, it fosters a them vs us mindset. If you use “racist”, it fosters a martyr attitude, of let’s hold hands with all the colors of the world. You might tell off blacks murdering your people, but you won’t phrase it like that, you’ll instead preface it with remarks about how some of your best friends are black, and that it was a horrible thing that happened to that poor Emmett Till, lest any of your friends think you are racist. And when your friends notice you make a remark about some non-white murdering a white, they may say “Why are you stirring up racism, brah? You haven’t been looking at the racist web sites?” And you’ll say, nah, I don’t want people to think I’m racist.
In exactly the same way, we’ve won the war of White Supremacist vs White Nationalist. The media now uses our term. They invested a lot in terming us White Supremacists, when all we want to do is control our countries and have them for ourselves. The WS term repels normies, and maybe WN does to some extent but a lot of people think – maybe these guys have a point.