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From Variety (with some pictures I added):

Why Kevin Hart Was the Wrong Choice to Host the Oscars (Column)

Owen Gleiberman, December 6, 2018 10:07PM PST

I’m not a person who tends to have a censorious attitude toward stand-up comedians. …

But …

Yet Kevin Hart’s comic tweets about the LGBTQ community … can leave you with a slightly queasy feeling. … Those tweets marked him as the wrong person — the wrong host — at the wrong time.

The Oscars are an awards show, but as much as that they’re a celebration of movies. And what, exactly, are movies about? …

That a few individuals’ faces are worthy of being projected 40 feet high while millions of people with less glamorous faces sit in the dark, eat popcorn, and admire them?

No! That’s totally wrong. You see, Owen Gleiberman knows exactly what movies are about:

But what all great movies are about, on some level, is empathy. They have been, and still are, the supreme vehicle for putting ourselves in the shoes

of people who aren’t us.

The shoes

of beautiful, fabulous people who aren’t us.

To watch a great movie is to reduce that difference — between the people on screen, whoever they might be, and the people in the audience — to nothing.

I like the phrase “whoever they might be:” as if the people on screen are randomly selected.

In truth, they are there because they look better on a movie screen than the people in the audience:

The notion that The Movies represent egalitarianism is popular among actresses with 2 digit IQs reciting speeches at the Oscars, but, c’mon, Owen, don’t be such a sap …

That, in a nutshell, is the miracle of movies. … But the glory of cinema is that no movie is for any one person at the expense of anyone else.

If Quentin Tarantino doesn’t represent scrupulous equality and justice for all as opposed to fantasies of all-powerful domination, who does?

They are all for everyone.

No, actually, they are not. 2001 and Pretty Woman are not for everyone. Trying to make a movie for everyone is about the surest way to make a bad movie.

They’re not just about crossing boundaries — they’re about melting them down.

Yeah, sure …

Actually, movies get most of their mojo from the good old fashioned Rhett and Scarlett binary:

The trouble with Kevin Hart’s words— the reason that, by and large, they’re terrible jokes — is that they express a spirit of extreme anti-empathy. …

James Cameron, in contrast to Kevin Hart, is Mr. Empathy.

Going forward, that message could conceivably be the taking-off point for a hipper, better, more grown-up — and funnier — Kevin Hart. …

Judging by this column, I’m sure that Owen Gleiberman has lots of good advice for Kevin Hart on how to be funnier.

Kevin, have your people call me!

Some might argue that the high council of identity politics now demands too much. In this case, however, the real question was whether a comedian whose mocking reactionary spirit led him to write off a segment of our citizens

Sorry, Owen, but “citizens” is Anti-Undocumented.

in the most demeaning way possible was the person we wanted in 2019 to symbolize, on global television, the spirit of Hollywood.

One interesting question is whether Kevin Hart gets any Diversity Pokemon Points for being only about 5’2″?

Apparently not.

Heightism just isn’t a Thing we are supposed to be concerned about.

The main job of the Oscar host is to tweak a great many of the people in the audience — the royalty of the industry. They are not, and shouldn’t be, above satire, especially on Oscar night. But the essence of the satire is that it shouldn’t leave a sour aftertaste.

… And that couldn’t be further from the defiantly inclusive spirit of Hollywood today.

Remember that phrase: “the defiantly inclusive spirit of Hollywood today.”

Also, consider Gleiberman’s implication that gay men are naturally egalitarian and anti-humor …

Hart’s spirit is, in fact, a bit Trumpian: superior and divisive, based on the falsity of exclusion. …

So movies are now being cast at random, with lots of illegal immigrants fruitpickers, to avoid Trumpian falsity of exclusion? Funny how I hadn’t noticed …

The last thing that anyone needed on Oscar night was to be laughing at the host and wondering, in the back of one’s mind, whether the cutting edge of his jokes was really the sharp blade of intolerance.

As Inkoo Kang asked in Slate about Borat, are comedies “politically useful” in the Current Year?

But drama, too, will come under suspicion of not being politically useful enough. As I wrote in “Exhortation and Megalomania” in Taki’s Magazine in 2015:

It’s widely assumed, both by liberals and conservatives, that the fields of arts and entertainment innately induce egalitarian political leanings.

Much of the prestige of the left, in fact, derives from the notion that it’s only natural for creative people to favor equality above all else. …

A more subversive theory is that art is inherently anti-egalitarian, that the entertainment industry thrives by elevating individuals to levels of mass adoration that Belshazzar of Babylon would have found excessive.

In turn, the entertainment industry adopts a bogus ideology of promoting equality to cover up its essential tendency toward Caesarism.

 
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  1. Possibly the most unintentionally profound interaction between blacks ever created on screen So much so I’m convinced the film makers in no way meant to do it:

    • Replies: @Clifford Brown
    @MikeatMikedotMike

    Could a director shoot that same scene today?

    Replies: @MikeatMikedotMike

    , @Dave from Oz
    @MikeatMikedotMike

    There was an episode of Gordan Ramsey's Kitchen Nightmares that was revealing. Couple of black guys goofing around in the kitchen. One of them was a thief. When he was fired, the other one came good, started working. The cure to crab-bucket mentality, it seems, is to only keep one crab in the bucket.

    Replies: @J.Ross, @Anonymous

    , @Hapalong Cassidy
    @MikeatMikedotMike

    The Indian actor in that scene who says “cloudy with a chance of a drive-by” later did 8 years in prison for attempted murder.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/people.com/crime/40-year-old-virgin-actor-parole-stabbed-girlfriend/amp/

    , @PaceLaw
    @MikeatMikedotMike

    Thanks for sharing Mike! I didn’t see 40-year Old Virgin, so watching this clip was quite a sublime treat.

  2. BBC had an imperious and Soviet commentator demanding rhetorically why Hart had not apologized as soon as his mas–, er, that is, his friends who “reached out” to him, had “suggested” he apologize.
    Some crocodile tears from the sodhedrin saying Hart should not have been fired.

  3. anon[184] • Disclaimer says:

    Kevin Hart was definitely the right person to host if the Academy Awards wanted to expand its audience beyond middle-aged housewives and a small number gay white men and industry insiders. Better luck next year, I guess. The day Neil Patrick Harris hangs it up is the day they might as well just shut it down. What an embarrassment.

    OT: Owen Gleiberman is definitely a bit full of himself. On his Twitter, he retweeted a guy who praised and retweeted him for lecturing Stephen King on what makes a good horror flic – a retweet of a retweet that was about him.

  4. Steve, you finally let your mask slip: you are a face-ist.
    (Actually, I wanted to make a point, but since it’s hard to articulate, it will have to wait.)

  5. Yeah, ask any waiter in the LA area what Hollywood does best and they’ll tell you: empathy.

    Also, it’s not very empathetic to feel for a movie character. Millions are put into creating the kind of scripts that take you by the hand and lead you exactly where you need to be. It’s not subtle. Even the most autistic audience member knows who the baddies are. You have to wonder about Mr. Geibermann if he thinks that’s some sort of great emotional feat.

  6. “You know who runs Hollywood?”
    “The Jews?”
    “The GAY Jews!”

    • Replies: @Cagey Beast
    @Simon in London

    Even gay Jews have gone downhill.

    , @Joe Schmoe
    @Simon in London

    So, if not Kevin Hart, then who?

    Some white gay guy?

    How do blacks feel that gays now have more Pokemon points?

    I mean, gays were never really oppressed, whereas you can't stop being black or hide the fact that you are black. Gays can hide it or at least stop announcing they are gay.

    Replies: @Anon, @Prodigal son

    , @J.Ross
    @Simon in London

    The porn star Mercedes Grabowski, who killed herself after being commanded to do so on twitter by a gay colleague (and being threatened with bad press by activist-journalists), sinned against the outer church not by refusing to work with gays but by refusing to work with a particular homosexual who was widely known to ignore the industry's safety standards. So gays create these imperium-situations wherever they can, in which they are above the law but anyone who angers them is a witch. There is no gay community conversation I am aware of bringing up the possibility that this might be a dangerously stupid way of going about things.

    Replies: @Thea, @ThreeCranes

    , @Hypnotoad666
    @Simon in London

    That was an hysterical episode. The Larry Sanders Show deserves to be better remembered. And poor Gary Shandling definitely did not get his due when he passed a couple years ago.

  7. Diversity = Strength; Variety = Equality; Up = Down

    • Replies: @Citizen of a Silly Country
    @Henry's Cat

    We're all getting played by Tom.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qc5ZtL-_cKU

    Replies: @Anon

  8. It has become obvious that the “culture of critique”, the church without redemption doesn’t know what to do with the cultural institutions it has captured. It’s hard to use art to belittle people and scold them and still get them to pay for it. That’s why they’re stuck with two choices: grind the audience’s noses in filth that’s mixed with cheap thrills or to uplift particular groups by belittling other groups. An example of the second method is Hidden Figures. It belittles Whites who worked on the Apollo program by uplifting the handful of Black women at NASA to comical levels.

    Film is an especially ill-suited medium for middlebrow Millennial “call-out culture”. Snark and narcissism make for bad film. It’s a waste of expensive costumes and sets to get everyone dressed up to deliver the sour worldview of woke Twitter. They should stick to the tiny screens on their phones and practice their art on social media. Leave the big screens for the people who think big.

    • Replies: @Thea
    @Cagey Beast

    The church without redemption

    That is brilliant way to describe it. Classic.


    I do think part of the message in Hidden Figures was to encourage blacks, particularly females, to try harder in school. I think the movie makers believe they can succeed where teachers have failed.

  9. Marilyn Monroe lifted weights to look good in her clothes, and out of them.

    Too bad she got mixed up with those shady Leprechaun plutocrats in the Kennedy Organized Crime Syndicate.

    Marilyn should have stayed with that nice Italian guy DiMaggio.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Charles Pewitt

    Joe D smacked the shit out of her, because that was what good husbands did when the wife got out of line. He had no idea what to do with MM except in bed.

    After she died, he got all proprietary about her, of course, and made her fans feel like crap if they ever asked about her. He was convinced the Kennedys offed her. I'm convinced they didn't: I'm sure it was the psychiatrist and his hired spy housekeeper. Same deal as Brian Wilson and Dr. Landy, except Wilson was really more crazy, but he had friends that got him out of Landy's clutches. Neither Joe D nor that amoral, oafish doofus Arthur Miller could quite be bothered.

    , @Alden
    @Charles Pewitt

    Di Maggio

    1 hit her
    2 wouldn’t even arrange a home for them. His plan was theyd live with his sister in the sisters small 5 room plus kitchen home
    3 wanted her to quit her career and spend her days in a small home as a permanent guest.
    4 Expected her to stay home with the sister while he went out to dinner and drinking g every night with his buddies

    Di Maggio’s First wife left him for the exact same reasons except that he bought a house for them

    Replies: @Anonymous

  10. I was thinking the other night how different is would be for someone to marinate in pop culture now, as compared to 60 or 70 years ago. Imagine a whole family guilelessly absorbing everything that Hollywood, Broadway, the radio and magazine rack had to offer in 1958 and imagine a family doing the equivalent now. The family in 1958 would end up with a cheery, can-do spirit and the family of today would end up a cluster of alienated perverts.

    • Agree: Colin Wright, utu, ic1000
  11. https://theinfosphere.org/Transcript:Amazon_Women_in_the_Mood

    [Scene: Outside The Drollery Domicile.]
    Thog: This our comedy club. Humour here funny in different way.

    Ornik: It not reinforce stereotypes.

    Kug: Comedy come from character, real situations. Not abstract craziness.

    Bender: Translation: Boring! [He, Zapp and Fry burst into laughter.] [laughing] That’s a good one! [He literally gets his head bashed in.] Ow!

    Glieberman, huh? I’m so old I remember when Jews were funny.

  12. Marilyn Monroe with an arrow and a bow is a nice picture:

    https://twitter.com/Ian__Curtis___/status/1056130560056270848

    • Agree: YetAnotherAnon
    • Replies: @Autochthon
    @Charles Pewitt

    Her form is atrociaous. I'm sure she was a terrible archer. Of course, I'd have been happy to teach her, though. (Maybe whoever did teach her was too distracted to focus on the job.)

    , @Neil Templeton
    @Charles Pewitt

    Doesn't look like her hand drawing the bowstring. Unless her right arm is half again her left. She's quite symmetric in every other way.

  13. @Simon in London
    "You know who runs Hollywood?"
    "The Jews?"
    "The GAY Jews!"

    Replies: @Cagey Beast, @Joe Schmoe, @J.Ross, @Hypnotoad666

    Even gay Jews have gone downhill.

  14. anon[381] • Disclaimer says:

    Conquerors in the ancient world would often rewrite history to justify their actions – the Romans were invited by the king to invade, the US made the world safe for democracy, or the Germans started the war even though we declared war on them first. This reminds me of the same. A priest class invents reasons to justify the prevailing order or how that order came to be. We see this in movies like Green Book which was intended as a self-flagellation opportunity for the Ruling Class’s subjects and in decisions like this one to fire a popular comedian for Wrong Think directed at the Ruling Class. Don’t kid yourself, it’s blatant hypocrisy; there is no justification for it and any justification offered is merely words meant to fool the weak-minded. If Hart had joked about killing whites or made a thousand Trump zingers, it wouldn’t be a problem. It’s only a problem here because the people who rule you don’t like being made fun of – at all. They have no problem making fun of others – so…so much for equality. Hart was definitely the right choice to host if the Academy wanted actual cultural cache again. I guess it’s back to the traditional audience of middle-class white women, white male gays, and a few industry insiders…an audience that I’m sure will continue the trend of declining.

    • Replies: @syonredux
    @anon


    Conquerors in the ancient world would often rewrite history to justify their actions – the Romans were invited by the king to invade, the US made the world safe for democracy, or the Germans started the war even though we declared war on them first.
     
    Not in World War II.....



    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_declaration_of_war_against_the_United_States
  15. I agree with Owen. After all, that’s why Hollywood made all those movies about Ukrainian victims of Jewish Bolsheviks and all those Palestinian victims of Zionism. Hollywood is about the little guy.

    Yes, it’s all about breaking down barriers. I say let’s have a Palestinian activist of BDS to host the next Oscars. It’s time to stop ghetto-zing foreign films, and it’s about time to ensure that 8 out of 10 best movie nomination are global than Hollywood. Let’s have some Chinese movie, Turkish movie, Iranian movie, etc.

    And it’s about time to say NO to Anglo-Supremacism. Why should English be the globo-language. We need a World Language for all.

    PS. Is the appeal of Americanism a kind of Insta-Supremacism? A total loser-nobody in the poorest nation can come to the US, become an ‘American’ in 5 yrs, and take pride as a proud citizen of the exceptional and indispensable LONE SUPERPOWER. Go from lowest loser to biggest winner in 5 yrs if you come to the US.

    • Replies: @Joe Schmoe
    @Anon


    We need a World Language for all.
     
    How about English?

    Replies: @Anon

  16. White Girls, of course, remains a hilarious satire of the horrors of The Current Year.

  17. That, in a nutshell, is the miracle of movies. … But the glory of cinema is that no movie is for any one person at the expense of anyone else.

    Well, you know, except for racist White people and Uncle Toms……

  18. Hollywood hates me. They told me so. I won’t waste my stomach lining hating them back. But neither will I buy their product.

    I’m a flea market guy in Texas. I specialize in vintage vinyl records and I sell movies on DVD. I get customers who say “I used to just love Streisand but I can’t stand to listen to her any more”. Or “Not that one. I won’t watch De Niro any more”. I know this does no harm to these has-been artists. But I have to wounder what the people behind the cameras think about celebs poisoning the well they still have to drink from.

  19. “Some might argue that the high council of identity politics now demands too much.”

    Is Everything too much?

  20. Hollywood is all about equality. That’s why it tries to dominate the entire world with dumb blockbusters. Dumb Entertainment makes the entire world equally stupid.

  21. Anon[320] • Disclaimer says:

    OT: Ocasio-Cortez just threatened Donald Trump jr with a supoena just because he made a political joke on Twitter. O-C is beginning to look like she’s headed for a very short political career indeed. She won’t be able to keep her hand out of the public till, judging from her urge for 3K dollar outfits.

    • Replies: @Harry Baldwin
    @Anon

    Minority voters will consistently reelect corrupt politicians, so Ocasio Cortez is probably on safe ground.

  22. I think Gleiberman is promoting anti-semitism. He needs to apologize and promise to stop writing.

  23. @Anon
    I agree with Owen. After all, that's why Hollywood made all those movies about Ukrainian victims of Jewish Bolsheviks and all those Palestinian victims of Zionism. Hollywood is about the little guy.

    Yes, it's all about breaking down barriers. I say let's have a Palestinian activist of BDS to host the next Oscars. It's time to stop ghetto-zing foreign films, and it's about time to ensure that 8 out of 10 best movie nomination are global than Hollywood. Let's have some Chinese movie, Turkish movie, Iranian movie, etc.

    And it's about time to say NO to Anglo-Supremacism. Why should English be the globo-language. We need a World Language for all.

    PS. Is the appeal of Americanism a kind of Insta-Supremacism? A total loser-nobody in the poorest nation can come to the US, become an 'American' in 5 yrs, and take pride as a proud citizen of the exceptional and indispensable LONE SUPERPOWER. Go from lowest loser to biggest winner in 5 yrs if you come to the US.

    Replies: @Joe Schmoe

    We need a World Language for all.

    How about English?

    • Replies: @Anon
    @Joe Schmoe

    How about English?

    Lingo-supremacist.

    We need something like Esperanto.

    PS. It seems that due to gangsta rap, the world lingo might become something like pidgin ebonics thugese.

  24. @Simon in London
    "You know who runs Hollywood?"
    "The Jews?"
    "The GAY Jews!"

    Replies: @Cagey Beast, @Joe Schmoe, @J.Ross, @Hypnotoad666

    So, if not Kevin Hart, then who?

    Some white gay guy?

    How do blacks feel that gays now have more Pokemon points?

    I mean, gays were never really oppressed, whereas you can’t stop being black or hide the fact that you are black. Gays can hide it or at least stop announcing they are gay.

    • Replies: @Anon
    @Joe Schmoe

    So, if not Kevin Hart, then who?
    Some white gay guy?

    No, let this be the Year of the Tranny. And Hollywood should be more 'inclusive' and invite someone from another profession.

    I say the Australian handball player. I want Hanna Bouncer, I mean Mouncey.

    https://twitter.com/CAPSLOCKHUSTLER/status/1070777716461457408

    Trannies can be fun. They are to feminism what William the Fridge Perry was to the offensive linemen.

    , @Prodigal son
    @Joe Schmoe

    Good point , even Liberace was able to hide his gayness and fool most Americans...and those not fooled did not seem to care that he was queer.

  25. @anon
    Conquerors in the ancient world would often rewrite history to justify their actions - the Romans were invited by the king to invade, the US made the world safe for democracy, or the Germans started the war even though we declared war on them first. This reminds me of the same. A priest class invents reasons to justify the prevailing order or how that order came to be. We see this in movies like Green Book which was intended as a self-flagellation opportunity for the Ruling Class's subjects and in decisions like this one to fire a popular comedian for Wrong Think directed at the Ruling Class. Don't kid yourself, it's blatant hypocrisy; there is no justification for it and any justification offered is merely words meant to fool the weak-minded. If Hart had joked about killing whites or made a thousand Trump zingers, it wouldn't be a problem. It's only a problem here because the people who rule you don't like being made fun of - at all. They have no problem making fun of others - so...so much for equality. Hart was definitely the right choice to host if the Academy wanted actual cultural cache again. I guess it's back to the traditional audience of middle-class white women, white male gays, and a few industry insiders...an audience that I'm sure will continue the trend of declining.

    Replies: @syonredux

    Conquerors in the ancient world would often rewrite history to justify their actions – the Romans were invited by the king to invade, the US made the world safe for democracy, or the Germans started the war even though we declared war on them first.

    Not in World War II…..

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_declaration_of_war_against_the_United_States

  26. Anon[100] • Disclaimer says:

    I kinda take your point, but the Clint Eastwood photo reminds me that not everyone onscreen is, or is meant to be, glamorous. Take Clint’s co-stars in that movie. Lee van Cleef said that “being born with a beady-eyes squint is the best thing that ever happened to me.” And Eli Walach was no prize, even apart from Tuco; he’s ridiculous in Baby Doll, playing a role that calls for Brando or Clift.

    Of course, today everyone’s botoxed and airbrushed to a fare thee well, so yeah…

    • Replies: @syonredux
    @Anon


    I kinda take your point, but the Clint Eastwood photo reminds me that not everyone onscreen is, or is meant to be, glamorous. Take Clint’s co-stars in that movie. Lee van Cleef said that “being born with a beady-eyes squint is the best thing that ever happened to me.”

     

    Directors loved Van Cleef's predatory visage....As though a hawk had been reborn as a man...


    http://dailygrindhouse.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/LEE-VAN-CLEEF-THE-GOOD-THE-BAD-THE-UGLY.jpg

    https://i.pinimg.com/736x/5b/f6/c9/5bf6c9f0bc7ed73adbe3f03692d5148f.jpg


    http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-Y1CpniyKYrQ/U0_zRLtZpdI/AAAAAAAAEg8/KrgjqkHDpzQ/s1600/sabata2.jpg


    https://c4.staticflickr.com/4/3215/2649334726_bae1b6f164.jpg

    Replies: @TBA, @Anon

    , @Anon
    @Anon

    And Eli Walach was no prize, even apart from Tuco

    Big personality. A born character actor.

    Movie magic is strange. Most good-looking men and women would be BORING on the big screen.
    If it's just about looks, any pretty face should succeed in movie business. But most people who look in real life don't come alive on screen.

    And then, there are some people who look ugly or funny but have tremendous screen presence. Eli Wallach has that quality. You won't forget him the moment you see him. Same with Strother Martin. And the way he talks, like in COOL HAND LUKE and BALLAD OF CABLE HOGUE.

    Peter Lorre and Edward G. Robinson also had powerful screen presence. Bogart wasn't really handsome but came alive on screen.

    , @Kylie
    @Anon

    "...Eli Walach was no prize, even apart from Tuco; he’s ridiculous in Baby Doll, playing a role that calls for Brando or Clift."

    You must be male. I just watched a clip from Baby Doll with Eli Wallach on YouTube. He's sexy as hell. If you scroll down through the comments, you'll see I'm not the only woman who thinks so.

    https://youtu.be/1gBX1znpd3k

  27. @Henry's Cat
    Diversity = Strength; Variety = Equality; Up = Down

    Replies: @Citizen of a Silly Country

    We’re all getting played by Tom.

    • Replies: @Anon
    @Citizen of a Silly Country

    Wiki says Bernie is a homo too. I got it that Dane and Mink are tootsy, but Bernie too?

    That makes three homos and three straights in MILLER'S DOUBLECROSSING.

    But instead of homos vs straights, there's a lot of intra-sexual conflict as well.

    But the two straight guys survive in the end. I aint complaining.

    Replies: @Hunsdon

  28. Homophobe is Greek for “Nιγγερ”.

    • Replies: @Joe Schmoe
    @Reg Cæsar

    I see what you did there

    , @Glaivester
    @Reg Cæsar

    You do realize that that would be pronounced "Ninjer" don't you? (double gammas are pronounced "nj").

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

  29. ” Gleiberman’s implication that gay men are naturally egalitarian and anti-humor …”

    Well, yes, (((Gleiberman))) would think that, Jews being the leading experts on homosexuality.

  30. @Anon
    I kinda take your point, but the Clint Eastwood photo reminds me that not everyone onscreen is, or is meant to be, glamorous. Take Clint's co-stars in that movie. Lee van Cleef said that "being born with a beady-eyes squint is the best thing that ever happened to me." And Eli Walach was no prize, even apart from Tuco; he's ridiculous in Baby Doll, playing a role that calls for Brando or Clift.

    Of course, today everyone's botoxed and airbrushed to a fare thee well, so yeah...

    Replies: @syonredux, @Anon, @Kylie

    I kinda take your point, but the Clint Eastwood photo reminds me that not everyone onscreen is, or is meant to be, glamorous. Take Clint’s co-stars in that movie. Lee van Cleef said that “being born with a beady-eyes squint is the best thing that ever happened to me.”

    Directors loved Van Cleef’s predatory visage….As though a hawk had been reborn as a man…

    • Replies: @TBA
    @syonredux

    Early in his career, he's supposed to have gotten the advice to get a nose job to look less villainous. Good thing he didn't take it.

    , @Anon
    @syonredux

    Directors loved Van Cleef’s predatory visage….As though a hawk had been reborn as a man…

    You have to credit Leone for Lee Van Cleef's success(though ultimately limited).

    When Leone called on Cleef for FOR A FEW DOLLARS MORE, Cleef was just barely making it as a house painter. Though Hollywood gave the world many glamorous stars and striking personalities, it was still focused mainly on stories and emotions. Some Hollywood movies looked real good but story and characters were still center-stage. Most Westerns were like this.

    Then, Leone came along and his eye was far keener about the look. His Westerns were more about archetypes and style than characters and story. So, Leone saw something in Cleef that Hollywood failed to see. Cleef was a middling actor with no special talent, but that didn't matter to Leone who knew he could get a lot of mileage out of him by the way he stood, moved, or was framed. He thought more like a painter. It's like body building. A body builder doesn't have to be athletic in terms of speed and coordination. But if he looks good and makes the right moves, he can be a star.

    Leone understood monumentalism(of man). He was one of the handful, along with Eisenstein and Lang, who could work in mythic proportions. He could turn characters into an ancient race of gods, the stuff of myth. Most big time Hollywood actors were stars on the public stage, not so much on the big screen. In their movies, they were all too human. Gary Cooper was a big star, but most of his roles were about everyman. John Wayne was an even bigger star, but most of his roles was as an ordinary tough guy. Tough and manly but all too human and not a god. In contrast, actors were turned into gods on the screen by Leone. Ford's Henry Fonda was human character on screen and a movie star in publicity. But in ONCE UPON A TIME IN THE WEST, he was a god on the screen itself.

    Leone made Cleef. And maybe Eastwood too. Eastwood had a great look and real talent(though limited). But if not for Leone, one wonders if he would have been put on the cinema map. Eastwood's forte was look and style, but Hollywood in the 60s didn't know what to make of an actor like Eastwood. He seemed too 'cool' and 'aloof'. In contrast, tall and handsome Gary Cooper always struck a human chord in his peak yrs.
    Sean Connery was a new kind of actor with 'cool' style but he was engaging and charming. In contrast, Eastwood's talent was latent, unwilling or unable to engage. But for Leone, it was just what he needed as he knew how to build a movie around that kind of actor with detached demeanor. Even after a long illustrious career, his most memorable roles are still with the Dollars movies.

    Leone gave great interviews, and his remark about Eastwood was one of the best.

    http://scrapsfromtheloft.com/2016/08/03/leone-interview-american-film-1984/

    Leone: It’s difficult to compare East­wood and De Niro. The first is a mask of wax. In reality, if you think about it, they don’t even belong to the same profession. Robert De Niro throws him­self into this or that role, putting on a personality the way someone else might put on his coat, naturally and with ele­gance, while Clint Eastwood throws himself into a suit of armor and lowers the visor with a rusty clang. It’s exactly that lowered visor which composes his character. And that creaky clang it makes as it snaps down, dry as a martini in Harry’s Bar in Venice, is also his character. Look at him carefully. East­wood moves like a sleepwalker between explosions and hails of bullets, and he is always the same—a block of marble. Bobby, first of all, is an actor. Clint, first of all, is a star. Bobby suffers, Clint yawns.

    Replies: @Autochthon

  31. I think the Oscars should be hosted by Peter Dinklage.

    It’s high time Kevin Hart is given a lesson on how CULTURED closet-case midgets behave!

    Actually, time is always high for Kevin. That Nee ain’t never gonna Grow.

    Should call him a WEEgro.

    Lucky Charms-chasin’, Gap-for-kids-buyin’, last-to-know-it’s-rainin’, wee-ass M*tha Fu**a!!

  32. “Not in World War II…..”

    The reference was to the British. Your link was to the United States.

    https://www.historyguy.com/worldwartwo/british_declaration_of_war_1939.htm

  33. @Charles Pewitt
    Marilyn Monroe with an arrow and a bow is a nice picture:

    https://twitter.com/Ian__Curtis___/status/1056130560056270848

    Replies: @Autochthon, @Neil Templeton

    Her form is atrociaous. I’m sure she was a terrible archer. Of course, I’d have been happy to teach her, though. (Maybe whoever did teach her was too distracted to focus on the job.)

  34. “O-C is beginning to look like she’s headed for a very short political career indeed.”

    Genius Cortez strikes again. You overestimate the intelligence of her voting base. She’ll be around for a very long time. That is what immigration did. Gross.

    • Replies: @South Texas Guy
    @anon

    Octavia-Cortez was elected because the arrogant white guy thought the election would be a cakewalk, he skipped debates, didn't do much retail politicting, etc., and got his ass handed to him. As much as I like Ted Cruz, he damn near made the same mistake-no way Beto should have gotten as close as he did with the views he holds.

    Replies: @Ibound1

  35. @syonredux
    @Anon


    I kinda take your point, but the Clint Eastwood photo reminds me that not everyone onscreen is, or is meant to be, glamorous. Take Clint’s co-stars in that movie. Lee van Cleef said that “being born with a beady-eyes squint is the best thing that ever happened to me.”

     

    Directors loved Van Cleef's predatory visage....As though a hawk had been reborn as a man...


    http://dailygrindhouse.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/LEE-VAN-CLEEF-THE-GOOD-THE-BAD-THE-UGLY.jpg

    https://i.pinimg.com/736x/5b/f6/c9/5bf6c9f0bc7ed73adbe3f03692d5148f.jpg


    http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-Y1CpniyKYrQ/U0_zRLtZpdI/AAAAAAAAEg8/KrgjqkHDpzQ/s1600/sabata2.jpg


    https://c4.staticflickr.com/4/3215/2649334726_bae1b6f164.jpg

    Replies: @TBA, @Anon

    Early in his career, he’s supposed to have gotten the advice to get a nose job to look less villainous. Good thing he didn’t take it.

  36. Anon[425] • Disclaimer says:

    Presumably Hollywood is all about equality. So says Owen Gleiberman. Now, ‘equality’ is a big term, and has been claimed by all sides. Communists say equality is about equal distribution wealth. Libertarians say equality is about assurance of equal individual freedom and property rights. So, ‘equality’ can mean just about anything. Some say ‘affirmative action’ is about furthering equality by favoring less represented groups. Other says it works against equality because it favors inferior-skilled individuals over superior-skilled individuals on the basis of color or identity.

    Now, how does equality in relation to certain social agendas? If we say the Homo Agenda is about justice, does it mean that all people must be forced to see homosexuality as a good thing? But, that goes beyond tolerance. Tolerance means you should acknowledge the basic freedoms of those you disagree with or even loathe. So, in a tolerant society, even people who loathe homosexuality should tolerate the freedom of homos to be homos. But what if a society says YOU MUST REVERE HOMOSEXUALITY or else be destroyed and blacklisted as a ‘homophobe’? This is an ultimatum, not tolerance.

    Gleiberman and his his ilk seem to think that it’s not enough for us to tolerate homos. We must revere, admire, and praise them. If anyone thinks homos to be weird or finds homo fecal penetration to be gross, he must be targeted, destroyed, and blacklisted(1000x than anything that happened in McCarthy Era). It’s like we live in the Buttfuc*arthy Era. We must take it up the ass in silence OR ELSE you’re destroyed. It’s like freaking mind-rape. We must be forced to think-feel-and-talk alike… or else you will be destroyed. Also, the very Jews who say it was terrible that all those communist lost jobs during the McCarthy Era now say that anyone who runs afoul of PC should be fired and blacklisted. Jews even push for criminalization of BDS. Jews hailed the firing and blacklisting of Rick Sanchez and Helen Thomas. And as homos are the #1 allies of Jews, Jewish Power will destroy anyone who won’t take the homo agenda up the ass. And if McCarthy Era lasted just several yrs, Buttfuc*arthy Era seems to be forever.

    Homos are becoming like Jews in Hollywood. Notice that it’s not enough to tolerate Jews. We must never be critical of them. We must praise them and cheer for Israel at all times. Imagine what would happen to someone in Hollywood if he proposed a movie project about the plight of Palestinians. A movie about Nakba Pogroms. Or a movie about IDF death squads mowing down Palestinian women and children in Gaza. Or a movie about Israel’s attack on USS Liberty and how Jewish influence silenced one of the worst attacks on the US. Such could be construed as narratives of equality of justice, but would Hollywood allow it?
    Does Owen Gleiberman, in his love for equality, press on Hollywood writers and producers to make more movies about the plight of Palestinians? Or how about the role of Jewish Bolsheviks in the Great Famine and Great Terror in the USSR? Or how about a movie about the way the Rosenbergs and other Jews funneled atomic secrets to Stalin and how American Jews spun a narrative where communist spies were better people than anti-communist who were labeled as ‘witch-hunters’? So, was the Soviet Spy network in the US that led to Stalin getting the Bomb just a ‘witch’? Or Harry Dexter White as Soviet agent? Just another witch? Or Alger Hiss?
    Amusingly enough, the very Jews who bitch and whine endlessly about Red Scare and right-wing paranoia are pushing a real witch-hunt with totally bogus Russian Collusion Allegations. But people like glib Gleiberman seem to be silent about the current Jewish paranoia. The entertainment media is like one big Bar Mitzvah party where tribal insiders all pat each other on the back and go wink-wink.

    Now, movies can be about ‘equality’. There was Italian Neo-Realism and many humanist movies made about ‘ordinary people’. Think of EMIGRANTS and NEW LAND by Jan Troell. But Hollywood, for the most part, hasn’t been about such subjects or movies. It’s been about American Uber Alles in World Cinema. Think of all the national cinemas destroyed by Hollywood Globo-Monopoly.
    It’s been about Star Power and blanketing the world with mostly big dumb genre movies(though expensive and well-made). Hollywood is about raking in billions with superhero movies. It’s about celebrities hogging all the limelight. It’s about a handful of moviemakers and movie stars taking the bulk of the profits.
    Also, racially, it’s about Jews, whites, and blacks and that’s about it. Muslims have been mostly presented as terrorists, Mexicans have been mostly background sidekicks, and most others have been exotic add-ons. Diversity means whites, blacks, Jews, and homos in foreground and everyone else as wallpaper or sidekick or funny ethnic stereotype.

    Hollywood has been mostly about fantasy of escapism. Notice that world cinema is ghettoized into a category called ‘foreign films’. The Management of Hollywood has always been ethnically dominant, a kind of movie mafia of Jews. It is ideologically exclusionary and selective. It’s about Zionism and Israel. Jews in Hollywood raise tons for Israel and will work together to destroy anyone who dares to make a pro-Palestinian movie. Hollywood is also homo-maniacal. It’s no longer enough to tolerate homos. If you want to work in Hollywood, you must praise and celebrate homosexuality. You must make yourself believe that a homo-man’s fecal organ or anus has equal sexual-biological value as the vagina of a woman. Or if a tranny says he is a ‘woman’, we better believe his dick and balls are ‘female organs’ too. Or if he gets them cut off and gets a fake vagina, we better believe it in EQUAL in value to a real vagina. I suppose a plastic tomato is EQUAL to a real tomato or else you’re a plastictomatophobe. (Political Correctness tells us it is wrong to believe that there are ‘male brains’ and ‘female brains’, but if some guy says he is a female brain trapped in a male body, we better believe him. It’s like we are told it is ‘sexist’ to believe boys prefer toy guns and girls prefer toy dolls — it’s all social conditioning –, but if an effete boy would rather play with dolls than with toy guns, that is totally genetic.)

    Anyway, imagine if Mormons got such homo red-carpet treatment in Hollywood, i.e. it’s no longer enough to tolerate Mormons but everyone must praise Mormonism and never ever dare cast negative aspersions on the church. If that is what constitutes equality, then it means all of must equally be FORCED to agree with a certain position. So, we must all believe that a man with a wig is a ‘woman’ even though he has dick and balls. We must all believe that Israel is so wonderful even though we are appalled by the treatment of Palestinians. It is equality of succumbing to the pressure of Jews and Homos.

    Now, my issue isn’t with Tolerance. If homos have talent, they should be able to use it. And just because some people don’t like homosexuality, it doesn’t mean they get to deny the homos the right to work.
    That sounds like decent enough formula for equality’. But that is not what Gleiberman is about. He believes homosexuality and homo fecal penetration(and tranny dick-cutting and getting a fake vagina) are awesome and holy, and we must all equally be pressured to agree… or else be blacklisted. He thinks everyone should be buggered with homomania and be forced to say “I like it, I like it.” It’s no longer about equality via tolerance but iron equality by compulsion.

    This is esp funny since Hollywood is in LA, one of the big dominant cities. Notice the US has 50 states, but its media are concentrated in few cities, mostly in LA and NY. Hollywood and NY Jews feel no love for all the rubes in ‘flyover country’. Some equality!

    And it’s a funny kind of ‘equality’ when Jews, who are 2% of the population, control Hollywood and most of media. Yup, Gleiberman’s Jewish-Zionist idea of equality! Real equality would mean a movie and TV industry in the US that shows the Palestinian side of the story. It’d be nice to have some pro-Palestinian movies now and then. And just as we have so many holocaust movies, we would have some movies about how Jewish radicals played a big role in the deaths of millions in communist nations. Or movies about Jewish role in the Brazilian slave trade. Or Jewish role in sale of opium to the Chinese. Or movies about how the Jewish Sackler family has addicted to many white working class folks to opioids. Or Jewish role in the economic looting of Russia in the 90s, the main reason for Russian distrust of the US. Even expansion of NATO didn’t upset Russians so much as what the Jewish globalist elements did to the economy of Russia. But the Jewish ‘equality’ of the US media means endless vilification of Russia(and Iran) simply because Jews hate them. Equality generally means all of us must equally hate whatever Jews hate.

    In truth, we don’t have equality in Hollywood or media. We just have Jewish voices hogging most of the Narrative, and we have Jewish critics like Gleiberman pretending that Jew-homo run Hollywood is all about ‘equality’. Oh yeah? Just ask the Palestinians. Just as any decent moral person who doesn’t bend over to the homo agenda. Anyone who sympathizes with courageous decent bakers who refuse to bake ‘gay wedding’ cakes is effectively blacklisted by Hollywood. (These Jews who say bakeries have no such right to say NO to participation in moral filth then turn around and say Jewish-dominated tech monopolies have every right to use their oligarchic powers to shut down ‘hate speech’, which happens to whatever Jews don’t like. So, AIPAC that supports Zionist tyranny is not hate speech but BDS that calls for justice for Palestinians is hate speech. Jewish logic for you. That is what Gleiberman means by ‘equality’).

  37. After they make a Superhero version of Ow, My Balls!, they should have Hormel Chavez host the Oscars. Every time he awards a plaque to a black, they can creatively kick him in the groin. The current year is ripe.

  38. The empathy in the Saw series was awesome!

  39. Anon[425] • Disclaimer says:

    This actually has a lot in common with CNN booting Marc Lamont Hill.

    As Homomania is a really a proxy of Jewish Power — we are told by a shill of AIPAC like Hillary Clinton that Israelis are so much more awesome than Palestinians because Jews put on massive homo-tranny ‘pride’ parades whereas Arabs don’t — , a black guy dissing homo power is seen by Jews as an attack on Jewish Power. It’s like Jewish Power reacted to Russia say NO to ‘gay pride’ parades. Jewish Power wants homos to romp around the very ground consecrated by Russian in the Great Patriotic War. Jews see ‘gay pride’ parades as victory parades for Jewish globalist power.

    Jews invested heavily into the neo-catholicism of homomania, and it won’t do for some black guy to make fun of it.

    So, Marc Hill and Kevin Hart… too uppity for the Jewish-Globalist Massuh. They need to be made to pick cotton again.

    • Replies: @william munny
    @Anon

    Farrakhan should be preparing for some new converts.

  40. Anon[425] • Disclaimer says:
    @Citizen of a Silly Country
    @Henry's Cat

    We're all getting played by Tom.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qc5ZtL-_cKU

    Replies: @Anon

    Wiki says Bernie is a homo too. I got it that Dane and Mink are tootsy, but Bernie too?

    That makes three homos and three straights in MILLER’S DOUBLECROSSING.

    But instead of homos vs straights, there’s a lot of intra-sexual conflict as well.

    But the two straight guys survive in the end. I aint complaining.

    • Replies: @Hunsdon
    @Anon

    This should serve as an excellent opportunity to rewatch Miller's Crossing. Bernie's homosexuality is not even subtle.

    Replies: @Anon, @Unladen Swallow

  41. @Joe Schmoe
    @Anon


    We need a World Language for all.
     
    How about English?

    Replies: @Anon

    How about English?

    Lingo-supremacist.

    We need something like Esperanto.

    PS. It seems that due to gangsta rap, the world lingo might become something like pidgin ebonics thugese.

  42. Anon[425] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon
    I kinda take your point, but the Clint Eastwood photo reminds me that not everyone onscreen is, or is meant to be, glamorous. Take Clint's co-stars in that movie. Lee van Cleef said that "being born with a beady-eyes squint is the best thing that ever happened to me." And Eli Walach was no prize, even apart from Tuco; he's ridiculous in Baby Doll, playing a role that calls for Brando or Clift.

    Of course, today everyone's botoxed and airbrushed to a fare thee well, so yeah...

    Replies: @syonredux, @Anon, @Kylie

    And Eli Walach was no prize, even apart from Tuco

    Big personality. A born character actor.

    Movie magic is strange. Most good-looking men and women would be BORING on the big screen.
    If it’s just about looks, any pretty face should succeed in movie business. But most people who look in real life don’t come alive on screen.

    And then, there are some people who look ugly or funny but have tremendous screen presence. Eli Wallach has that quality. You won’t forget him the moment you see him. Same with Strother Martin. And the way he talks, like in COOL HAND LUKE and BALLAD OF CABLE HOGUE.

    Peter Lorre and Edward G. Robinson also had powerful screen presence. Bogart wasn’t really handsome but came alive on screen.

    • Agree: Kylie
  43. Anonymous[427] • Disclaimer says:
    @Charles Pewitt
    Marilyn Monroe lifted weights to look good in her clothes, and out of them.

    Too bad she got mixed up with those shady Leprechaun plutocrats in the Kennedy Organized Crime Syndicate.

    Marilyn should have stayed with that nice Italian guy DiMaggio.

    https://twitter.com/UngeheuerDarin/status/830683010907402241

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Alden

    Joe D smacked the shit out of her, because that was what good husbands did when the wife got out of line. He had no idea what to do with MM except in bed.

    After she died, he got all proprietary about her, of course, and made her fans feel like crap if they ever asked about her. He was convinced the Kennedys offed her. I’m convinced they didn’t: I’m sure it was the psychiatrist and his hired spy housekeeper. Same deal as Brian Wilson and Dr. Landy, except Wilson was really more crazy, but he had friends that got him out of Landy’s clutches. Neither Joe D nor that amoral, oafish doofus Arthur Miller could quite be bothered.

  44. Anon[425] • Disclaimer says:
    @Joe Schmoe
    @Simon in London

    So, if not Kevin Hart, then who?

    Some white gay guy?

    How do blacks feel that gays now have more Pokemon points?

    I mean, gays were never really oppressed, whereas you can't stop being black or hide the fact that you are black. Gays can hide it or at least stop announcing they are gay.

    Replies: @Anon, @Prodigal son

    So, if not Kevin Hart, then who?
    Some white gay guy?

    No, let this be the Year of the Tranny. And Hollywood should be more ‘inclusive’ and invite someone from another profession.

    I say the Australian handball player. I want Hanna Bouncer, I mean Mouncey.

    Trannies can be fun. They are to feminism what William the Fridge Perry was to the offensive linemen.

  45. @Simon in London
    "You know who runs Hollywood?"
    "The Jews?"
    "The GAY Jews!"

    Replies: @Cagey Beast, @Joe Schmoe, @J.Ross, @Hypnotoad666

    The porn star Mercedes Grabowski, who killed herself after being commanded to do so on twitter by a gay colleague (and being threatened with bad press by activist-journalists), sinned against the outer church not by refusing to work with gays but by refusing to work with a particular homosexual who was widely known to ignore the industry’s safety standards. So gays create these imperium-situations wherever they can, in which they are above the law but anyone who angers them is a witch. There is no gay community conversation I am aware of bringing up the possibility that this might be a dangerously stupid way of going about things.

    • Replies: @Thea
    @J.Ross

    The AIDS epidemic exploded due to this very behavior. They refused to follow the basic procedures of contact tracing and quarantine. Things the US government routinely did for other illnesses. They refused to close the bathhouses where the met for anonymous liaisons. They threw a collective hissyfit in the face of common sense attempts to prevent the spread of a deadly illness.

    Millions of lives & billions of dollars could have been saved.

    But they have no love for their fellow man. And they will not tolerate being to told their behavior has consequences(social, physical, and eternal)

    Replies: @Alden

    , @ThreeCranes
    @J.Ross

    "So gays create these imperium-situations wherever they can, in which they are above the law but anyone who angers them is a witch."

    Every day on this site I read things which put into words stuff that I actually experienced--as the victim ("witch") in this case--and in doing so give expression to what I feel but can't clearly articulate.

    Replies: @J.Ross

  46. @Joe Schmoe
    @Simon in London

    So, if not Kevin Hart, then who?

    Some white gay guy?

    How do blacks feel that gays now have more Pokemon points?

    I mean, gays were never really oppressed, whereas you can't stop being black or hide the fact that you are black. Gays can hide it or at least stop announcing they are gay.

    Replies: @Anon, @Prodigal son

    Good point , even Liberace was able to hide his gayness and fool most Americans…and those not fooled did not seem to care that he was queer.

  47. @Reg Cæsar
    Homophobe is Greek for "Nιγγερ".

    Replies: @Joe Schmoe, @Glaivester

    I see what you did there

  48. @Anon
    @Citizen of a Silly Country

    Wiki says Bernie is a homo too. I got it that Dane and Mink are tootsy, but Bernie too?

    That makes three homos and three straights in MILLER'S DOUBLECROSSING.

    But instead of homos vs straights, there's a lot of intra-sexual conflict as well.

    But the two straight guys survive in the end. I aint complaining.

    Replies: @Hunsdon

    This should serve as an excellent opportunity to rewatch Miller’s Crossing. Bernie’s homosexuality is not even subtle.

    • Replies: @Anon
    @Hunsdon

    Bernie’s homosexuality is not even subtle.

    Let's just say my 'gaydar' instrument is low voltage. Unless it's flaming, I don't feel the burn.

    , @Unladen Swallow
    @Hunsdon

    Tom: What about Bernie?
    Verna: He could go with us.
    Tom: You, me, and Bernie, where would go Verna? Niagara Falls?

    Replies: @Hunsdon

  49. “So gays create these imperium-situations wherever they can, in which they are above the law but anyone who angers them is a witch.”

    If only gays were exceptional in doing so. Unfortunately, it is the nature of any Ruling Class to do the same. Hence, the American establishment.

  50. Anon[425] • Disclaimer says:
    @syonredux
    @Anon


    I kinda take your point, but the Clint Eastwood photo reminds me that not everyone onscreen is, or is meant to be, glamorous. Take Clint’s co-stars in that movie. Lee van Cleef said that “being born with a beady-eyes squint is the best thing that ever happened to me.”

     

    Directors loved Van Cleef's predatory visage....As though a hawk had been reborn as a man...


    http://dailygrindhouse.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/LEE-VAN-CLEEF-THE-GOOD-THE-BAD-THE-UGLY.jpg

    https://i.pinimg.com/736x/5b/f6/c9/5bf6c9f0bc7ed73adbe3f03692d5148f.jpg


    http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-Y1CpniyKYrQ/U0_zRLtZpdI/AAAAAAAAEg8/KrgjqkHDpzQ/s1600/sabata2.jpg


    https://c4.staticflickr.com/4/3215/2649334726_bae1b6f164.jpg

    Replies: @TBA, @Anon

    Directors loved Van Cleef’s predatory visage….As though a hawk had been reborn as a man…

    You have to credit Leone for Lee Van Cleef’s success(though ultimately limited).

    When Leone called on Cleef for FOR A FEW DOLLARS MORE, Cleef was just barely making it as a house painter. Though Hollywood gave the world many glamorous stars and striking personalities, it was still focused mainly on stories and emotions. Some Hollywood movies looked real good but story and characters were still center-stage. Most Westerns were like this.

    Then, Leone came along and his eye was far keener about the look. His Westerns were more about archetypes and style than characters and story. So, Leone saw something in Cleef that Hollywood failed to see. Cleef was a middling actor with no special talent, but that didn’t matter to Leone who knew he could get a lot of mileage out of him by the way he stood, moved, or was framed. He thought more like a painter. It’s like body building. A body builder doesn’t have to be athletic in terms of speed and coordination. But if he looks good and makes the right moves, he can be a star.

    Leone understood monumentalism(of man). He was one of the handful, along with Eisenstein and Lang, who could work in mythic proportions. He could turn characters into an ancient race of gods, the stuff of myth. Most big time Hollywood actors were stars on the public stage, not so much on the big screen. In their movies, they were all too human. Gary Cooper was a big star, but most of his roles were about everyman. John Wayne was an even bigger star, but most of his roles was as an ordinary tough guy. Tough and manly but all too human and not a god. In contrast, actors were turned into gods on the screen by Leone. Ford’s Henry Fonda was human character on screen and a movie star in publicity. But in ONCE UPON A TIME IN THE WEST, he was a god on the screen itself.

    Leone made Cleef. And maybe Eastwood too. Eastwood had a great look and real talent(though limited). But if not for Leone, one wonders if he would have been put on the cinema map. Eastwood’s forte was look and style, but Hollywood in the 60s didn’t know what to make of an actor like Eastwood. He seemed too ‘cool’ and ‘aloof’. In contrast, tall and handsome Gary Cooper always struck a human chord in his peak yrs.
    Sean Connery was a new kind of actor with ‘cool’ style but he was engaging and charming. In contrast, Eastwood’s talent was latent, unwilling or unable to engage. But for Leone, it was just what he needed as he knew how to build a movie around that kind of actor with detached demeanor. Even after a long illustrious career, his most memorable roles are still with the Dollars movies.

    Leone gave great interviews, and his remark about Eastwood was one of the best.

    http://scrapsfromtheloft.com/2016/08/03/leone-interview-american-film-1984/

    Leone: It’s difficult to compare East­wood and De Niro. The first is a mask of wax. In reality, if you think about it, they don’t even belong to the same profession. Robert De Niro throws him­self into this or that role, putting on a personality the way someone else might put on his coat, naturally and with ele­gance, while Clint Eastwood throws himself into a suit of armor and lowers the visor with a rusty clang. It’s exactly that lowered visor which composes his character. And that creaky clang it makes as it snaps down, dry as a martini in Harry’s Bar in Venice, is also his character. Look at him carefully. East­wood moves like a sleepwalker between explosions and hails of bullets, and he is always the same—a block of marble. Bobby, first of all, is an actor. Clint, first of all, is a star. Bobby suffers, Clint yawns.

    • Agree: Redneck farmer
    • Replies: @Autochthon
    @Anon

    Leone? I'd always been told it was Lee Majors who made Eastwood look so fine....

    https://youtu.be/BmIsMzyohqM

  51. @Hunsdon
    @Anon

    This should serve as an excellent opportunity to rewatch Miller's Crossing. Bernie's homosexuality is not even subtle.

    Replies: @Anon, @Unladen Swallow

    Bernie’s homosexuality is not even subtle.

    Let’s just say my ‘gaydar’ instrument is low voltage. Unless it’s flaming, I don’t feel the burn.

  52. @MikeatMikedotMike
    Possibly the most unintentionally profound interaction between blacks ever created on screen So much so I'm convinced the film makers in no way meant to do it:

    https://youtu.be/DmYkt2RkhsI

    Replies: @Clifford Brown, @Dave from Oz, @Hapalong Cassidy, @PaceLaw

    Could a director shoot that same scene today?

    • Replies: @MikeatMikedotMike
    @Clifford Brown

    IIRC the second half of that scene was not included in the original release. But to answer your question, I seriously doubt it.

    The theme of your question can be applied to all the great comedies of the 70's and early 80's.

  53. Nimesh Patel writes an op-ed in The NY Times in response to his removal from the stage at Columbia University. Maybe the South Asians actually will save comedy.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/07/opinion/columbia-nimesh-patel-comedian-kicked-offstage.html

  54. We forget how much society has changed in its opinion towards the LGBTQ community in the past decade. Kevin Hart voiced opinions in those tweets that weren’t that uncommon at that time.

    Selection of the host should have been vetted more closely.The Oscars are the gay Superbowl for God’s sake.Hart is a comedian,who won’t say a bad word about politicians, because he doesn’t want to alienate anyone in his audience.Yet he had time for hateful tweets about the LGBT community .Maybe he has changed.Maybe he isn’t a bigot But the fact that he wouldn’t apologize.indicates to me that he still harbors homophobic feelings and doesn’t want to offend his base.

    This was not about whether the standards from 8 years ago should apply today, but own it and say “I am sorry.” That is what caused the uproar– it would have been less of an issue and not snowballed if he would have said I am sorry from the start and not made excuses or justified it.

  55. Anon[416] • Disclaimer says:

    OT

    Glenn Reynolds of the Instapundit blog has had three posts in the past week plugging a novel. I glanced at it, and it looked like some sort of right-wing digital “vanity press” thing, priced at $5.00, but I needed something to read, and since the book was volume 3 in a series, I got the Kindle version of the first entry, People’s Republic, by a guy named Kurt Schlichter, who I had never heard of, but who seems to be a semi-prominent political commentator/nonfiction author and attorney/veteran.

    The book is an absoute blast, really entertaining.

    — It’s well written and copyedited, and there is an action plot that keeps it moving, albeit with a stereotypical flawless action hero type protagonist.

    — It’s set 15 or 20 years in the future, after the red and blue states have a civil war and break into two countries. The worldbuilding is hilariously over the top and is quite funny, although the novel itself is an action novel. A superelderly Hillary Clinton was president when the split took place, and Bill de Blasio is the current president of the blue half during the book. There’s no water in California because they tore down the dams for environmental reasons, but Hetch Hetchy is left up to supply the elites in the Bay Area. Meanwhile, the red states are doing fine. So the book is a kind of dystopia/utopia combination along political lines.

    — The blue states are shown as being politically correct to an absurd degree, with the results that minorities are worse off than before.

    — I’m a native Angeleno and a UCLA graduate, and much of the plot takes place in those locations, with many namechecks of local streets, businesses, landmarks, and institutions, and how they have fared under blue rule. UCLA students protest that “Speaking is Hearist.” Some dialog from a “people’s math” class is given. The Daily Bruin has had to be renamed after Native American protests, and the school mascot is a circle, the only safe thing they could find. The 101 is now the Barbara Boxer Freeway. All the good parts of the city are walled off for the elites and the rest of the city and the Valley has become a blighted ghetto. Reparations taxes on poor whites finance the elites lifestyles.

    It’s silly but entertaining, and I plan to check out the next entry in the series.

    • Replies: @Jim Don Bob
    @Anon

    Kurt Schlichter writes at townhall.com (https://townhall.com/columnists/kurtschlichter/).

    I find him very entertaining. He mocks liberals relentlessly which is something they cannot abide.

  56. @Cagey Beast
    It has become obvious that the "culture of critique", the church without redemption doesn't know what to do with the cultural institutions it has captured. It's hard to use art to belittle people and scold them and still get them to pay for it. That's why they're stuck with two choices: grind the audience's noses in filth that's mixed with cheap thrills or to uplift particular groups by belittling other groups. An example of the second method is Hidden Figures. It belittles Whites who worked on the Apollo program by uplifting the handful of Black women at NASA to comical levels.

    Film is an especially ill-suited medium for middlebrow Millennial "call-out culture". Snark and narcissism make for bad film. It's a waste of expensive costumes and sets to get everyone dressed up to deliver the sour worldview of woke Twitter. They should stick to the tiny screens on their phones and practice their art on social media. Leave the big screens for the people who think big.

    Replies: @Thea

    The church without redemption

    That is brilliant way to describe it. Classic.

    I do think part of the message in Hidden Figures was to encourage blacks, particularly females, to try harder in school. I think the movie makers believe they can succeed where teachers have failed.

  57. @Reg Cæsar
    Homophobe is Greek for "Nιγγερ".

    Replies: @Joe Schmoe, @Glaivester

    You do realize that that would be pronounced “Ninjer” don’t you? (double gammas are pronounced “nj”).

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Glaivester

    As in teenage mutant turtles?

    And how do you know how Aristotle pronounced it?

  58. it is just power tripping

    damn few people are even aware of his old tweets and most of them forgot

    this is about showing the world who is boss and who has power

  59. @anon
    "O-C is beginning to look like she’s headed for a very short political career indeed."

    Genius Cortez strikes again. You overestimate the intelligence of her voting base. She'll be around for a very long time. That is what immigration did. Gross.

    Replies: @South Texas Guy

    Octavia-Cortez was elected because the arrogant white guy thought the election would be a cakewalk, he skipped debates, didn’t do much retail politicting, etc., and got his ass handed to him. As much as I like Ted Cruz, he damn near made the same mistake-no way Beto should have gotten as close as he did with the views he holds.

    • Replies: @Ibound1
    @South Texas Guy

    O-C is the future. Not the elderly, close to senile, White and Jewish liberals currently running the Democratic party. We will get more and more like her - moronic third world socialists with zero emotional connection to our nation as it existed before 1965.

    Replies: @South Texas Guy

  60. @MikeatMikedotMike
    Possibly the most unintentionally profound interaction between blacks ever created on screen So much so I'm convinced the film makers in no way meant to do it:

    https://youtu.be/DmYkt2RkhsI

    Replies: @Clifford Brown, @Dave from Oz, @Hapalong Cassidy, @PaceLaw

    There was an episode of Gordan Ramsey’s Kitchen Nightmares that was revealing. Couple of black guys goofing around in the kitchen. One of them was a thief. When he was fired, the other one came good, started working. The cure to crab-bucket mentality, it seems, is to only keep one crab in the bucket.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    @Dave from Oz

    This has long been known, Steve talks about it being key to his old Chicago neighborhood retaining its value while accommodating diversity ("a-black-a-block"). They are communal people and take more cues than others from the folks around them. That also means that if they see bad white people doing bad things, they might as well be "home."

    , @Anonymous
    @Dave from Oz

    I was reading through Carleton Putnam's Race and Reason and it makes the case pretty well that those dumb ole rayciss Southerners had an idea that was in fact the kindest and decentest solution to the Negro Problem one could have imagined. Most Negroes lived better lives in the Jim Crow South than they do in the hood in Chicago or St. Louis or Detroit today. The few who could conform to white norms and behaviors and had an IQ to where they could function were allowed to do so, or they went north to Harlem.

  61. “Trumpian: superior and divisive, based on the falsity of exclusion. …”
    Ever since the media coined this term I feel like it doesn’t mean what they want it to mean. Whenever I see it I think “Triumpian!”
    There. I fixed it.

  62. @J.Ross
    @Simon in London

    The porn star Mercedes Grabowski, who killed herself after being commanded to do so on twitter by a gay colleague (and being threatened with bad press by activist-journalists), sinned against the outer church not by refusing to work with gays but by refusing to work with a particular homosexual who was widely known to ignore the industry's safety standards. So gays create these imperium-situations wherever they can, in which they are above the law but anyone who angers them is a witch. There is no gay community conversation I am aware of bringing up the possibility that this might be a dangerously stupid way of going about things.

    Replies: @Thea, @ThreeCranes

    The AIDS epidemic exploded due to this very behavior. They refused to follow the basic procedures of contact tracing and quarantine. Things the US government routinely did for other illnesses. They refused to close the bathhouses where the met for anonymous liaisons. They threw a collective hissyfit in the face of common sense attempts to prevent the spread of a deadly illness.

    Millions of lives & billions of dollars could have been saved.

    But they have no love for their fellow man. And they will not tolerate being to told their behavior has consequences(social, physical, and eternal)

    • Replies: @Alden
    @Thea

    When Mayor Dianne Feinstein finally ordered the source of AIDS, the bath houses closed, a serious attempt was made by gays to impeach her.

    Around the same time San Francisco County Hospital ordered its employees to not wear gloves when dealing with AIDS patients as it was mean or something.

    Now we spend billions a year on gloves that are changed several times in a simple procedure. Medical equipment costs money

    Most of the AIDS parients ended up at the free County Hospital.
    As young men with irregular employment they didn’t have jobs with health insurance. Then they needed years of very expensive and free for them medical care as well as disability and home caretakers.

    Willie Brown was still in the assembly then. He arranged a $400 million yearly state subsidy for SF General Hospital to supplement the county tax mega millions the gays cost us.

    Feinstein was hosting gay “weddings” in her mansion years before she became Mayor. She backed them for years. But when she closed the bath houses to save gay lives they tried to impeach her.

    Replies: @Anonymous

  63. @Anon
    OT: Ocasio-Cortez just threatened Donald Trump jr with a supoena just because he made a political joke on Twitter. O-C is beginning to look like she's headed for a very short political career indeed. She won't be able to keep her hand out of the public till, judging from her urge for 3K dollar outfits.

    Replies: @Harry Baldwin

    Minority voters will consistently reelect corrupt politicians, so Ocasio Cortez is probably on safe ground.

  64. @South Texas Guy
    @anon

    Octavia-Cortez was elected because the arrogant white guy thought the election would be a cakewalk, he skipped debates, didn't do much retail politicting, etc., and got his ass handed to him. As much as I like Ted Cruz, he damn near made the same mistake-no way Beto should have gotten as close as he did with the views he holds.

    Replies: @Ibound1

    O-C is the future. Not the elderly, close to senile, White and Jewish liberals currently running the Democratic party. We will get more and more like her – moronic third world socialists with zero emotional connection to our nation as it existed before 1965.

    • Replies: @South Texas Guy
    @Ibound1

    Nah. I think the Jews and white people (or at least mostly white) will always run the Dem party. At least for rest of my lifetime. Various Baracks and Baldemars will come and go, but in the end, well, just look to Mexico and Latin America to see who mostly runs their political parties, both right and left.

  65. @Charles Pewitt
    Marilyn Monroe lifted weights to look good in her clothes, and out of them.

    Too bad she got mixed up with those shady Leprechaun plutocrats in the Kennedy Organized Crime Syndicate.

    Marilyn should have stayed with that nice Italian guy DiMaggio.

    https://twitter.com/UngeheuerDarin/status/830683010907402241

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Alden

    Di Maggio

    1 hit her
    2 wouldn’t even arrange a home for them. His plan was theyd live with his sister in the sisters small 5 room plus kitchen home
    3 wanted her to quit her career and spend her days in a small home as a permanent guest.
    4 Expected her to stay home with the sister while he went out to dinner and drinking g every night with his buddies

    Di Maggio’s First wife left him for the exact same reasons except that he bought a house for them

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Alden

    At Baseball, Joe D was a diamond.

    At life, he was a turd. But he had enablers, people who let him drive cars free, gave him anything he wanted, paid for his autograph. If they had all just ignored the selfish old jackass he would have just been a selfish old jackass.

  66. @Thea
    @J.Ross

    The AIDS epidemic exploded due to this very behavior. They refused to follow the basic procedures of contact tracing and quarantine. Things the US government routinely did for other illnesses. They refused to close the bathhouses where the met for anonymous liaisons. They threw a collective hissyfit in the face of common sense attempts to prevent the spread of a deadly illness.

    Millions of lives & billions of dollars could have been saved.

    But they have no love for their fellow man. And they will not tolerate being to told their behavior has consequences(social, physical, and eternal)

    Replies: @Alden

    When Mayor Dianne Feinstein finally ordered the source of AIDS, the bath houses closed, a serious attempt was made by gays to impeach her.

    Around the same time San Francisco County Hospital ordered its employees to not wear gloves when dealing with AIDS patients as it was mean or something.

    Now we spend billions a year on gloves that are changed several times in a simple procedure. Medical equipment costs money

    Most of the AIDS parients ended up at the free County Hospital.
    As young men with irregular employment they didn’t have jobs with health insurance. Then they needed years of very expensive and free for them medical care as well as disability and home caretakers.

    Willie Brown was still in the assembly then. He arranged a $400 million yearly state subsidy for SF General Hospital to supplement the county tax mega millions the gays cost us.

    Feinstein was hosting gay “weddings” in her mansion years before she became Mayor. She backed them for years. But when she closed the bath houses to save gay lives they tried to impeach her.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Alden

    Gays as a group are incredibly stiff-necked, so to speak. They regard as an enemy to be exterminated anyone who challenges the view that gay behavior is in any way different or dysfunctional, whether or not that person is interfering with them or causing them a problem. They DEMAND you acknowledge that they are 100 percent standard tech and anyone not understanding this is a homophobe.

    In other words , a heretic and a blasphemer, and they are Calvin, obligated to burn them like Michael Servetius.

    I have a gay relative who has become this way in the last few years.

    I predict Mother Nature will come up with a new disease for which gay sex is an ideal vector in the next couple of decades and with white medicine impacted by affirmative action and largely defunded and demoralized, this time there may not be as successful a treatment regime. AIDS 2.0 if you will.

  67. @Simon in London
    "You know who runs Hollywood?"
    "The Jews?"
    "The GAY Jews!"

    Replies: @Cagey Beast, @Joe Schmoe, @J.Ross, @Hypnotoad666

    That was an hysterical episode. The Larry Sanders Show deserves to be better remembered. And poor Gary Shandling definitely did not get his due when he passed a couple years ago.

  68. Anon[425] • Disclaimer says:

    It is less about Gay > Black than about breaching of the Holy Schmoly Three Peace.

    If a homo had been chosen to be Oscar host but it came out that he had said un-nice things about blacks, he would been nixed too.

    The holy-schmoly trinity is Jews, blacks, and homos. It’s the holy alliance, and the Rule is that they must all respect one another, support one another, defend one another. A triangle collapses if one side refuses to do its part.
    Jews and Homos get this, but blacks tend to be rather unruly at times. Because blacks tend to forget what is what, they are tolerated more than Jews or homos. Who was that black newswoman whose tweets included some ‘anti-gay’ stuff? Joy something? She survived, even though she lied hackers done it. Also, there is a cut-off date of what is permissible. It’s understood that most blacks said something un-nice about homos in the past. But how long ago? Anno Sodomini is around 2010, and nasty anti-homo stuff said AFTER THAT DATE is not to be forgiven. Al Sharpton said funny stuff about homos(and Greeks) but that was long ago, before Anno Sodomini.

    Anyway, Jews, blacks, and homos are now about equally holy by PC rules. The only time one group gains over another group is when the Holy Three Pact is breached, as when Negro Hart said something about homos. Then, it is ‘Gay’ > Black. But if a homo guy said bad stuff about blacks, it’d be Black > ‘Gay’ in that case. Jews have lots of holy-schmoliness but look what happened to Donald Sterling. It led to Black > Jew. But then, look at Marc Lamont Hill. It led to Jew > Black.
    Now, there is surely much tension among Jews, homos, and blacks, but they got a lucrative thing going as the Holy Three(or Jugromo or Judeo-Negro-Homo Alliance), and they need the peace. So, preach, don’t breach.
    It’s like Catholics and Protestants finally learned to get along.

    Problem with humor/comedy is it often forgets what is sacred because… humor is most effective in mocking sacred cows. Humor, inebriated with anarchic freedom, forgets what is holy and pokes fun at just about everything. PC now insists on a teetotaler brand of humor that is always mindful of what can be said and can’t be said. One might say humor has entered the Prohibition Era, and who knows, maybe humor(with intoxicants) will go underground as a form of gangsterism. That is how Alt Right gained traction… until Spencer took it over as a hard-line movement and lost the element of fun. Pepe is the Al Capone of humor.

    • Replies: @Autochthon
    @Anon

    Behold your masters!

    https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/117/922/8d6.jpg

    Replies: @Anon

  69. @Glaivester
    @Reg Cæsar

    You do realize that that would be pronounced "Ninjer" don't you? (double gammas are pronounced "nj").

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    As in teenage mutant turtles?

    And how do you know how Aristotle pronounced it?

  70. Anonymous[427] • Disclaimer says:
    @Alden
    @Thea

    When Mayor Dianne Feinstein finally ordered the source of AIDS, the bath houses closed, a serious attempt was made by gays to impeach her.

    Around the same time San Francisco County Hospital ordered its employees to not wear gloves when dealing with AIDS patients as it was mean or something.

    Now we spend billions a year on gloves that are changed several times in a simple procedure. Medical equipment costs money

    Most of the AIDS parients ended up at the free County Hospital.
    As young men with irregular employment they didn’t have jobs with health insurance. Then they needed years of very expensive and free for them medical care as well as disability and home caretakers.

    Willie Brown was still in the assembly then. He arranged a $400 million yearly state subsidy for SF General Hospital to supplement the county tax mega millions the gays cost us.

    Feinstein was hosting gay “weddings” in her mansion years before she became Mayor. She backed them for years. But when she closed the bath houses to save gay lives they tried to impeach her.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    Gays as a group are incredibly stiff-necked, so to speak. They regard as an enemy to be exterminated anyone who challenges the view that gay behavior is in any way different or dysfunctional, whether or not that person is interfering with them or causing them a problem. They DEMAND you acknowledge that they are 100 percent standard tech and anyone not understanding this is a homophobe.

    In other words , a heretic and a blasphemer, and they are Calvin, obligated to burn them like Michael Servetius.

    I have a gay relative who has become this way in the last few years.

    I predict Mother Nature will come up with a new disease for which gay sex is an ideal vector in the next couple of decades and with white medicine impacted by affirmative action and largely defunded and demoralized, this time there may not be as successful a treatment regime. AIDS 2.0 if you will.

  71. Anonymous[427] • Disclaimer says:
    @Alden
    @Charles Pewitt

    Di Maggio

    1 hit her
    2 wouldn’t even arrange a home for them. His plan was theyd live with his sister in the sisters small 5 room plus kitchen home
    3 wanted her to quit her career and spend her days in a small home as a permanent guest.
    4 Expected her to stay home with the sister while he went out to dinner and drinking g every night with his buddies

    Di Maggio’s First wife left him for the exact same reasons except that he bought a house for them

    Replies: @Anonymous

    At Baseball, Joe D was a diamond.

    At life, he was a turd. But he had enablers, people who let him drive cars free, gave him anything he wanted, paid for his autograph. If they had all just ignored the selfish old jackass he would have just been a selfish old jackass.

  72. @Dave from Oz
    @MikeatMikedotMike

    There was an episode of Gordan Ramsey's Kitchen Nightmares that was revealing. Couple of black guys goofing around in the kitchen. One of them was a thief. When he was fired, the other one came good, started working. The cure to crab-bucket mentality, it seems, is to only keep one crab in the bucket.

    Replies: @J.Ross, @Anonymous

    This has long been known, Steve talks about it being key to his old Chicago neighborhood retaining its value while accommodating diversity (“a-black-a-block”). They are communal people and take more cues than others from the folks around them. That also means that if they see bad white people doing bad things, they might as well be “home.”

  73. @Charles Pewitt
    Marilyn Monroe with an arrow and a bow is a nice picture:

    https://twitter.com/Ian__Curtis___/status/1056130560056270848

    Replies: @Autochthon, @Neil Templeton

    Doesn’t look like her hand drawing the bowstring. Unless her right arm is half again her left. She’s quite symmetric in every other way.

  74. @Hunsdon
    @Anon

    This should serve as an excellent opportunity to rewatch Miller's Crossing. Bernie's homosexuality is not even subtle.

    Replies: @Anon, @Unladen Swallow

    Tom: What about Bernie?
    Verna: He could go with us.
    Tom: You, me, and Bernie, where would go Verna? Niagara Falls?

    • Replies: @Hunsdon
    @Unladen Swallow

    Not everyone agrees, of course, but for me Miller's Crossing is the top of their work.

    Replies: @Unladen Swallow

  75. Anonymous[427] • Disclaimer says:
    @Dave from Oz
    @MikeatMikedotMike

    There was an episode of Gordan Ramsey's Kitchen Nightmares that was revealing. Couple of black guys goofing around in the kitchen. One of them was a thief. When he was fired, the other one came good, started working. The cure to crab-bucket mentality, it seems, is to only keep one crab in the bucket.

    Replies: @J.Ross, @Anonymous

    I was reading through Carleton Putnam’s Race and Reason and it makes the case pretty well that those dumb ole rayciss Southerners had an idea that was in fact the kindest and decentest solution to the Negro Problem one could have imagined. Most Negroes lived better lives in the Jim Crow South than they do in the hood in Chicago or St. Louis or Detroit today. The few who could conform to white norms and behaviors and had an IQ to where they could function were allowed to do so, or they went north to Harlem.

  76. @Anon
    I kinda take your point, but the Clint Eastwood photo reminds me that not everyone onscreen is, or is meant to be, glamorous. Take Clint's co-stars in that movie. Lee van Cleef said that "being born with a beady-eyes squint is the best thing that ever happened to me." And Eli Walach was no prize, even apart from Tuco; he's ridiculous in Baby Doll, playing a role that calls for Brando or Clift.

    Of course, today everyone's botoxed and airbrushed to a fare thee well, so yeah...

    Replies: @syonredux, @Anon, @Kylie

    “…Eli Walach was no prize, even apart from Tuco; he’s ridiculous in Baby Doll, playing a role that calls for Brando or Clift.”

    You must be male. I just watched a clip from Baby Doll with Eli Wallach on YouTube. He’s sexy as hell. If you scroll down through the comments, you’ll see I’m not the only woman who thinks so.

  77. Yet Kevin Hart’s comic tweets about the LGBTQ community … can leave you with a slightly queasy feeling.

    Those tweets marked out Kevin Hart as a completely normal man. No man wants his son to be a homosexual. Even a lot of homosexuals who have sons probably don’t want them to be homosexuals.

    Kevin Hart did nothing wrong and has nothing to apologize for.

  78. @Ibound1
    @South Texas Guy

    O-C is the future. Not the elderly, close to senile, White and Jewish liberals currently running the Democratic party. We will get more and more like her - moronic third world socialists with zero emotional connection to our nation as it existed before 1965.

    Replies: @South Texas Guy

    Nah. I think the Jews and white people (or at least mostly white) will always run the Dem party. At least for rest of my lifetime. Various Baracks and Baldemars will come and go, but in the end, well, just look to Mexico and Latin America to see who mostly runs their political parties, both right and left.

  79. @J.Ross
    @Simon in London

    The porn star Mercedes Grabowski, who killed herself after being commanded to do so on twitter by a gay colleague (and being threatened with bad press by activist-journalists), sinned against the outer church not by refusing to work with gays but by refusing to work with a particular homosexual who was widely known to ignore the industry's safety standards. So gays create these imperium-situations wherever they can, in which they are above the law but anyone who angers them is a witch. There is no gay community conversation I am aware of bringing up the possibility that this might be a dangerously stupid way of going about things.

    Replies: @Thea, @ThreeCranes

    “So gays create these imperium-situations wherever they can, in which they are above the law but anyone who angers them is a witch.”

    Every day on this site I read things which put into words stuff that I actually experienced–as the victim (“witch”) in this case–and in doing so give expression to what I feel but can’t clearly articulate.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    @ThreeCranes

    Have you seen Pat Buchanan's column at V-Dare following the death of George HW Bush? It was the response I wanted to give but did not for lack of presense of mind. Buchanan goes down the list of events in the Bush 41 presidency and substantiates how we are worse off.
    But it is kind of cool to know that people who now think I am a blood-soaked Nazi will one day insist that I was a saint in contrast to some later Hitler of the moment.

  80. @Anon
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OG0ifiKe8hI

    This actually has a lot in common with CNN booting Marc Lamont Hill.

    As Homomania is a really a proxy of Jewish Power -- we are told by a shill of AIPAC like Hillary Clinton that Israelis are so much more awesome than Palestinians because Jews put on massive homo-tranny 'pride' parades whereas Arabs don't -- , a black guy dissing homo power is seen by Jews as an attack on Jewish Power. It's like Jewish Power reacted to Russia say NO to 'gay pride' parades. Jewish Power wants homos to romp around the very ground consecrated by Russian in the Great Patriotic War. Jews see 'gay pride' parades as victory parades for Jewish globalist power.

    Jews invested heavily into the neo-catholicism of homomania, and it won't do for some black guy to make fun of it.

    So, Marc Hill and Kevin Hart... too uppity for the Jewish-Globalist Massuh. They need to be made to pick cotton again.

    Replies: @william munny

    Farrakhan should be preparing for some new converts.

  81. anon[167] • Disclaimer says:

    “Octavia-Cortez was elected because the arrogant white guy thought the election would be a cakewalk, he skipped debates”

    He showed up for one of the debates. THAT was his mistake. He showed his face (white) next to Cortez and that was the end of him. His stupid, racist constituents took it from there.

  82. @Clifford Brown
    @MikeatMikedotMike

    Could a director shoot that same scene today?

    Replies: @MikeatMikedotMike

    IIRC the second half of that scene was not included in the original release. But to answer your question, I seriously doubt it.

    The theme of your question can be applied to all the great comedies of the 70’s and early 80’s.

  83. @MikeatMikedotMike
    Possibly the most unintentionally profound interaction between blacks ever created on screen So much so I'm convinced the film makers in no way meant to do it:

    https://youtu.be/DmYkt2RkhsI

    Replies: @Clifford Brown, @Dave from Oz, @Hapalong Cassidy, @PaceLaw

    The Indian actor in that scene who says “cloudy with a chance of a drive-by” later did 8 years in prison for attempted murder.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/people.com/crime/40-year-old-virgin-actor-parole-stabbed-girlfriend/amp/

  84. @Anon
    @syonredux

    Directors loved Van Cleef’s predatory visage….As though a hawk had been reborn as a man…

    You have to credit Leone for Lee Van Cleef's success(though ultimately limited).

    When Leone called on Cleef for FOR A FEW DOLLARS MORE, Cleef was just barely making it as a house painter. Though Hollywood gave the world many glamorous stars and striking personalities, it was still focused mainly on stories and emotions. Some Hollywood movies looked real good but story and characters were still center-stage. Most Westerns were like this.

    Then, Leone came along and his eye was far keener about the look. His Westerns were more about archetypes and style than characters and story. So, Leone saw something in Cleef that Hollywood failed to see. Cleef was a middling actor with no special talent, but that didn't matter to Leone who knew he could get a lot of mileage out of him by the way he stood, moved, or was framed. He thought more like a painter. It's like body building. A body builder doesn't have to be athletic in terms of speed and coordination. But if he looks good and makes the right moves, he can be a star.

    Leone understood monumentalism(of man). He was one of the handful, along with Eisenstein and Lang, who could work in mythic proportions. He could turn characters into an ancient race of gods, the stuff of myth. Most big time Hollywood actors were stars on the public stage, not so much on the big screen. In their movies, they were all too human. Gary Cooper was a big star, but most of his roles were about everyman. John Wayne was an even bigger star, but most of his roles was as an ordinary tough guy. Tough and manly but all too human and not a god. In contrast, actors were turned into gods on the screen by Leone. Ford's Henry Fonda was human character on screen and a movie star in publicity. But in ONCE UPON A TIME IN THE WEST, he was a god on the screen itself.

    Leone made Cleef. And maybe Eastwood too. Eastwood had a great look and real talent(though limited). But if not for Leone, one wonders if he would have been put on the cinema map. Eastwood's forte was look and style, but Hollywood in the 60s didn't know what to make of an actor like Eastwood. He seemed too 'cool' and 'aloof'. In contrast, tall and handsome Gary Cooper always struck a human chord in his peak yrs.
    Sean Connery was a new kind of actor with 'cool' style but he was engaging and charming. In contrast, Eastwood's talent was latent, unwilling or unable to engage. But for Leone, it was just what he needed as he knew how to build a movie around that kind of actor with detached demeanor. Even after a long illustrious career, his most memorable roles are still with the Dollars movies.

    Leone gave great interviews, and his remark about Eastwood was one of the best.

    http://scrapsfromtheloft.com/2016/08/03/leone-interview-american-film-1984/

    Leone: It’s difficult to compare East­wood and De Niro. The first is a mask of wax. In reality, if you think about it, they don’t even belong to the same profession. Robert De Niro throws him­self into this or that role, putting on a personality the way someone else might put on his coat, naturally and with ele­gance, while Clint Eastwood throws himself into a suit of armor and lowers the visor with a rusty clang. It’s exactly that lowered visor which composes his character. And that creaky clang it makes as it snaps down, dry as a martini in Harry’s Bar in Venice, is also his character. Look at him carefully. East­wood moves like a sleepwalker between explosions and hails of bullets, and he is always the same—a block of marble. Bobby, first of all, is an actor. Clint, first of all, is a star. Bobby suffers, Clint yawns.

    Replies: @Autochthon

    Leone? I’d always been told it was Lee Majors who made Eastwood look so fine….

  85. @ThreeCranes
    @J.Ross

    "So gays create these imperium-situations wherever they can, in which they are above the law but anyone who angers them is a witch."

    Every day on this site I read things which put into words stuff that I actually experienced--as the victim ("witch") in this case--and in doing so give expression to what I feel but can't clearly articulate.

    Replies: @J.Ross

    Have you seen Pat Buchanan’s column at V-Dare following the death of George HW Bush? It was the response I wanted to give but did not for lack of presense of mind. Buchanan goes down the list of events in the Bush 41 presidency and substantiates how we are worse off.
    But it is kind of cool to know that people who now think I am a blood-soaked Nazi will one day insist that I was a saint in contrast to some later Hitler of the moment.

  86. @Unladen Swallow
    @Hunsdon

    Tom: What about Bernie?
    Verna: He could go with us.
    Tom: You, me, and Bernie, where would go Verna? Niagara Falls?

    Replies: @Hunsdon

    Not everyone agrees, of course, but for me Miller’s Crossing is the top of their work.

    • Replies: @Unladen Swallow
    @Hunsdon

    I would say Miller's Crossing and Big Lebowski are equally great but in different ways. No Country for Old Men is a great drama that is almost an uncut adaptation from a book.

  87. @Anon
    It is less about Gay > Black than about breaching of the Holy Schmoly Three Peace.

    If a homo had been chosen to be Oscar host but it came out that he had said un-nice things about blacks, he would been nixed too.

    The holy-schmoly trinity is Jews, blacks, and homos. It's the holy alliance, and the Rule is that they must all respect one another, support one another, defend one another. A triangle collapses if one side refuses to do its part.
    Jews and Homos get this, but blacks tend to be rather unruly at times. Because blacks tend to forget what is what, they are tolerated more than Jews or homos. Who was that black newswoman whose tweets included some 'anti-gay' stuff? Joy something? She survived, even though she lied hackers done it. Also, there is a cut-off date of what is permissible. It's understood that most blacks said something un-nice about homos in the past. But how long ago? Anno Sodomini is around 2010, and nasty anti-homo stuff said AFTER THAT DATE is not to be forgiven. Al Sharpton said funny stuff about homos(and Greeks) but that was long ago, before Anno Sodomini.

    Anyway, Jews, blacks, and homos are now about equally holy by PC rules. The only time one group gains over another group is when the Holy Three Pact is breached, as when Negro Hart said something about homos. Then, it is 'Gay' > Black. But if a homo guy said bad stuff about blacks, it'd be Black > 'Gay' in that case. Jews have lots of holy-schmoliness but look what happened to Donald Sterling. It led to Black > Jew. But then, look at Marc Lamont Hill. It led to Jew > Black.
    Now, there is surely much tension among Jews, homos, and blacks, but they got a lucrative thing going as the Holy Three(or Jugromo or Judeo-Negro-Homo Alliance), and they need the peace. So, preach, don't breach.
    It's like Catholics and Protestants finally learned to get along.

    Problem with humor/comedy is it often forgets what is sacred because... humor is most effective in mocking sacred cows. Humor, inebriated with anarchic freedom, forgets what is holy and pokes fun at just about everything. PC now insists on a teetotaler brand of humor that is always mindful of what can be said and can't be said. One might say humor has entered the Prohibition Era, and who knows, maybe humor(with intoxicants) will go underground as a form of gangsterism. That is how Alt Right gained traction... until Spencer took it over as a hard-line movement and lost the element of fun. Pepe is the Al Capone of humor.

    Replies: @Autochthon

    Behold your masters!

    • Replies: @Anon
    @Autochthon

    gaygaygay

  88. @Hunsdon
    @Unladen Swallow

    Not everyone agrees, of course, but for me Miller's Crossing is the top of their work.

    Replies: @Unladen Swallow

    I would say Miller’s Crossing and Big Lebowski are equally great but in different ways. No Country for Old Men is a great drama that is almost an uncut adaptation from a book.

  89. @Autochthon
    @Anon

    Behold your masters!

    https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/117/922/8d6.jpg

    Replies: @Anon

    gaygaygay

  90. @MikeatMikedotMike
    Possibly the most unintentionally profound interaction between blacks ever created on screen So much so I'm convinced the film makers in no way meant to do it:

    https://youtu.be/DmYkt2RkhsI

    Replies: @Clifford Brown, @Dave from Oz, @Hapalong Cassidy, @PaceLaw

    Thanks for sharing Mike! I didn’t see 40-year Old Virgin, so watching this clip was quite a sublime treat.

  91. @Anon
    OT

    Glenn Reynolds of the Instapundit blog has had three posts in the past week plugging a novel. I glanced at it, and it looked like some sort of right-wing digital "vanity press" thing, priced at $5.00, but I needed something to read, and since the book was volume 3 in a series, I got the Kindle version of the first entry, People's Republic, by a guy named Kurt Schlichter, who I had never heard of, but who seems to be a semi-prominent political commentator/nonfiction author and attorney/veteran.

    The book is an absoute blast, really entertaining.

    -- It's well written and copyedited, and there is an action plot that keeps it moving, albeit with a stereotypical flawless action hero type protagonist.

    -- It's set 15 or 20 years in the future, after the red and blue states have a civil war and break into two countries. The worldbuilding is hilariously over the top and is quite funny, although the novel itself is an action novel. A superelderly Hillary Clinton was president when the split took place, and Bill de Blasio is the current president of the blue half during the book. There's no water in California because they tore down the dams for environmental reasons, but Hetch Hetchy is left up to supply the elites in the Bay Area. Meanwhile, the red states are doing fine. So the book is a kind of dystopia/utopia combination along political lines.

    -- The blue states are shown as being politically correct to an absurd degree, with the results that minorities are worse off than before.

    -- I'm a native Angeleno and a UCLA graduate, and much of the plot takes place in those locations, with many namechecks of local streets, businesses, landmarks, and institutions, and how they have fared under blue rule. UCLA students protest that "Speaking is Hearist." Some dialog from a "people's math" class is given. The Daily Bruin has had to be renamed after Native American protests, and the school mascot is a circle, the only safe thing they could find. The 101 is now the Barbara Boxer Freeway. All the good parts of the city are walled off for the elites and the rest of the city and the Valley has become a blighted ghetto. Reparations taxes on poor whites finance the elites lifestyles.

    It's silly but entertaining, and I plan to check out the next entry in the series.

    Replies: @Jim Don Bob

    Kurt Schlichter writes at townhall.com (https://townhall.com/columnists/kurtschlichter/).

    I find him very entertaining. He mocks liberals relentlessly which is something they cannot abide.

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