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From Vanity Fair:
Only if Obama declares martial law and barricades himself in the White House. But then how would he play golf?
It’s a serious question. “He wants to be emperor,” several people have told me.
Perhaps it’s not a coincidence that Zuckerberg gets his hair styled like a Roman emperor’s?
BY NICK BILTON
JANUARY 13, 2017 2:30 PMDuring this crazy and bizarre week—one in which we learned that Donald Trump was briefed by intelligence chiefs that the Russian government had kompromat on him (and then later what said kompromat might comprise)
Sure we did.
—an interesting fantasy has been circulating around Silicon Valley. On the face of it, the notion may seem as fantastical as a Trump presidency once seemed before he descended that golden staircase in Trump Tower some 18 months ago. Increasingly, a number of influential people in Silicon Valley seem to think that Mark Zuckerberg will likely run for president of the United States one day. And some people, including myself, believe that he could indeed win. “He wants to be emperor” is a phrase that has become common among people who have known him over the years.
We’ll get to my theory on what that means a little later. First, let’s zip through the myriad indications that he might choose to throw his hoodie into the ring. Last year’s Facebook proxy statement articulated that Zuckerberg can run for office and still maintain control of his company. (To this end, Trump’s controversial precedent may facilitate any thorny political complications regarding the matter.)
Then, over the holidays, Zuckerberg responded to a question about being an atheist, a belief he once professed, with a decidedly more politically circumspect answer: “I was raised Jewish and then I went through a period where I questioned things, but now I believe religion is very important.” (No one likes a president who doesn’t believe in some sort of God.)
More recently, President Obama’s former campaign manager, David Plouffe, joined the philanthropic Chan Zuckerberg Initiative, to lead policy and advocacy. Other politicians from both parties have also joined the organization.
And then there was the most obvious intimation: earlier this year, Zuckerberg, who has a habit of posting his annual New Year’s resolution on his Facebook page, declared that after conquering the previous challenges of learning Mandarin, and building an artificial-intelligence butler for his home, this year he was going to meet “people in every state in the US.” He noted that he’s “spent significant time in many states already, so I’ll need to travel to about 30 states this year to complete this challenge.” I wonder how many of those states are swing states?
Of course, these are just a series of hints. In a funny way, and as insane as it sounds to say out loud, Zuckerberg is one of the few people for whom becoming president of the United States might be a step down. As the chief of Facebook, he is already the true leader of the free world. Zuckerberg commands a company that touches a quarter of the Earth’s population, some 1.8 billion monthly active users. There is no one alive who can affect more people with the touch of a button. He has more power and influence than most world leaders and, as is evident with the real fake-news problem (not the fake fake-news issue that Republicans have adopted as a deflection), Facebook can surely sway public opinion in incomparable ways.
If he does want the job, Zuckerberg definitely has the personality for it.
Zuckerberg is actually more appealing looking in real life than the movie star, Jesse Eisenberg, who played him in The Social Network.
When Facebook went public in 2012, I co-authored a profile of the young C.E.O. During the reporting, I heard from several friends about his penchant for playing world-conquering board and video games. Early childhood pals told me that one of Zuckerberg’s favorite video games as a boy was Civilization, the game in which you have to “build an empire to stand the test of time.” Others have told me that, to this day, Zuckerberg loves to play Risk, a strategy board game where you have to essentially take over the world. Believe it or not, he ended up applying some of these theories while forging and managing the extraordinary growth of Facebook, organizing his product teams in similar ways to his battalions in the board games. (According to someone close to him, these days Zuckerberg loves Game of Thrones and enjoys cooking a meat-laden “Dothraki Feast” while watching Westeros fall in and out of anarchy.)
… “Zuck has the kind of personality that, no matter what he decides to do, he’s going to do it better than anyone else on the planet,” someone close to him said to me a couple of years ago. “If Zuck was running a nonprofit, it would be the world’s biggest most successful nonprofit that would have distributed the most money in history to people around the world. It just so happens that he started his career building Facebook. Hence, the fact that it’s the biggest social network on the planet.”
The person also noted that Facebook would not be Zuckerberg’s only contribution to society. “He has much bigger plans,” the person said. …
When I’ve asked people in Silicon Valley if a Zuckerberg bid is potentially real, the consensus seems to be: absolutely. …If you ask me, Zuckerberg’s biggest problem is that he’s not the most sociable. He sticks to himself and his company, doesn’t entertain people outside his very tight circle of friends and associates, and appears to be more socially awkward than Howard Hughes.
Zuck jogging past Roman Coliseum
My impression from reading up on him a half dozen years ago when The Social Network came out was that Zuckerberg was interpersonally dominant in small group settings. He came across to rich investors like Peter Thiel as an obvious Leader of Men who was a natural CEO. But as of 2010, Zuckerberg wasn’t yet all that comfortable on stage or on TV.
… So what about that “He wants to be emperor” statement? I remember once hearing a story about how Zuckerberg used to motivate people when he was a young C.E.O. As a child, he was enamored with literature, and while most people just read books, Zuckerberg instead decided to memorize them. He did this with Homer’s Iliad, which tells the story of the battle between the ancient kingdoms of Troy and Sparta.
Zuckerberg is almost as obsessed with Greek and Roman classical culture as his sister Donna, who has a Ph.D. in it. He once said:
“I love Rome. I studied Latin and Roman history and culture. I loved it so much that when I was going to college, I actually thought I was going to major in Classics.
I didn’t. I ended up majoring in computer science and psychology. But I didn’t make it that long in college anyway.”
A few people have noticed that Zuckerberg rather looks like various Roman emperors and generally wears his hair in a style often fashionable on ancient Roman busts.
Back to Vanity Fair:
As The Wall Street Journal reported in 2010, at a staff meeting, “Zuckerberg quoted from the movie Troy before hundreds of employees crammed into the steamy basement of a Sheraton hotel in Palo Alto. He recounted the scene where a messenger tells Achilles how scared he would be to confront the giant Thessalonian, whom Achilles was preparing to battle.” To this, Zuckerberg shouted to his underlings: “That’s why no one will remember your name!”
The movie Troy with Brad Pitt as Achillies got a lot of grief when it came out for not sticking 100% to The Iliad, but I thought it was pretty good. The central notion that Achilles was motivated by fame and … here we are 3000 years later watching Brad Pitt play Achilles …
The screenwriters have since gone on to huge success with Game of Thrones.
Also, Zuckerberg’s sister Donna has a Ph.D. in classics and an upcoming book, Not All Dead White Men, about the need to defend classics from the looming takeover of the classics by the alt-right and the pick-up artist community.
Mark’s favorite quotes from the Aeneid are: “fortune favors the bold” and “a nation/empire without bound.”
So it’s reasonable to say that the Greek and Roman world’s pagan attitudes toward ambition and fame are not at all unknown to the Facebook founder. The term “Judeo-Christian values” doesn’t come up much when thinking about Mark Zuckerberg.
A few observers have noted how much Zuckerberg looks like the Emperor Caligula.
He’s echoed that statement over the years, saying that when new hires ask why they should join Facebook, “Tell them: because people will remember your name.” Zuckerberg wants his name to be remembered, too. And maybe being C.E.O. of the biggest social network in the world isn’t a big enough remembrance.
If Zuckerberg does decide to run for office (and the nothing-but-gossip theory I’ve heard floating around is that it would be 2024, not 2020, which makes complete sense given that he’s still only 32 years old), I personally think he’d be an astounding president.
Besides his experience contending with competition trying to destroy him (Google, Snapchat, etc.), and the fact that he has grown Facebook into a $370 billion colossus, it also appears Zuckerberg has been training for the POTUS job for the past decade. Unlike Trump, who has the diplomacy of a Twitter troll, Zuckerberg has become adept at statesmanship over the years meeting with world leaders—including presidents, prime ministers, and notable politicians—since he was in his mid-20s. He’s hosted town halls with President Obama, and backed immigration bills. He knows where to focus his energies from a global perspective. Zuckerberg isn’t concerned with Russia (which, let’s be frank, poses no economic threat to the United States), but he is very concerned with China (which, let’s be frank, sure as hell does).
But … but … that means Zuck’s on Putin’s side! Oh no … Putin must have kompromat on Zuck. Or something. Or maybe … Zuck has hacked Putin’s Facebook account and made Putin into Zuckerberg’s puppet?
It’s a wilderness of mirrors out there, folks! Drive carefully.
Then there’s the biggest issue I think America will face over the next 5 to 20 years: automation and artificial intelligence. Trump, who has continually promised to revive the low-skilled segments of the manufacturing business, is utterly oblivious to the reality that robots, driverless cars, and algorithms are going to vanquish millions of jobs in the coming years. It will likely be tens of millions of jobs in the coming decades.
Whereas Zuck has poured huge amounts of money into his FWD.us lobby to push for the obvious solution to disappearing American jobs: more immigration!
In the land of the virtual, the unequipped man is god-emperor.
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Will the real fake news,
Please stand up, please stand up!
So now we have fake news, fake fake news, and real fake news.
The fakestream media don't want to admit it yet (other than the NYT, which now forbids the phrase), but President Trump utterly and thoroughly appropriated the term "fake news" for our side now. Thanks to Trump, when people think "fake news" now, they think of mainstream media stories that are fraudulent or at best incorrect. Thank you, President Trump!Replies: @Clyde
Zuckerberg’s Mandarin is terrible.
“As the chief of Facebook, he is already the true leader of the free world. ”
I think it was the Zman’s blog where I first saw the word rumpswab (http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=rumpswab). The above quote from the article pegs the author Nick Bilton (http://www.nickbilton.com/) as a true rumpswab.
“The term “Judeo-Christian values” doesn’t come up much when thinking about Mark Zuckerberg.”
When did “The term “Judeo-Christian values” first come up?
https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?content=Judeo-Christian&year_start=1800&year_end=2000&corpus=15&smoothing=3&share=&direct_url=t1%3B%2CJudeo%20-%20Christian%3B%2Cc0
Are we post- “Judeo-Christian values?”
a world ruled by oligarch psychopaths is the most likely future unfortunately
(unless China/Russia etc take out the banks)
If the people who are most aware of this
are still in favor of continued mass immigration.
They are evil.
They imagine themselves in their golden towers looking down upon the endless miles of blood-sticky favelas and smile a psychopath’s dopamine smile.
Schindler now implying the ultimate:
Only if he mutates into worm. Oh, wait–he already is a worm.
Therein lies the cluelessness of Davos man. Another name to keep an eye on is Corey Booker, who Mickey Kaus has been talking about on twitter this week. Booker was mayor of Newark when Zuck gave $100 million dollars. Booker’s testimony against Sessions I’m sure played well with the donor class of the Democratic party.
Interestingly, this article forgot to mention the time that Mark Zuckerberg wasted 100 million dollars by giving it to the Newark school system…
http://www.businessinsider.com/mark-zuckerbergs-failed-100-million-donation-to-newark-public-schools-2015-9
When Booker was done looting Zuckerberg's largesse, the tech execs then doubled down and gave Booker an internet company named "Waywire", which he immediately looted with a large salary and options.
Want kompromat on Zucky? Not even fake:
http://www.businessinsider.com/well-these-new-zuckerberg-ims-wont-help-facebooks-privacy-problems-2010-5
“According to SAI sources, the following exchange is between a 19-year-old Mark Zuckerberg and a friend shortly after Mark launched The Facebook in his dorm room:
Zuck: Yeah so if you ever need info about anyone at Harvard
Zuck: Just ask.
Zuck: I have over 4,000 emails, pictures, addresses, SNS
[Redacted Friend’s Name]: What? How’d you manage that one?
Zuck: People just submitted it.
Zuck: I don’t know why.
Zuck: They “trust me”
Zuck: Dumb fucks.”
Nope…..his is a “punchable face”…..that combination of ridiculous smugness coupled with ….well something else. An excellent example is E. J. Dionne.
No he isn’t.
http://pixel.nymag.com/imgs/daily/vulture/2015/06/02/02-jesse-eisenberg-chatroom.w1200.h630.jpgReplies: @Sam Haysom
Theres no current “personality” that I have more antipathy towards than Zuckernerd. I don’t really know why. He seems fake, fake, fake. I’m only still on Fakebook due to a lack of alternatives to contact certain people. If he really becomes president, it will be the end of America, nay, the world. There’s no way to go lower, except maybe for Kanye West, who also said he wanted to be a candidate.
Make immigration comprehensive again!
I need comprehensive immigration reform. You need comprehensive immigration reform. He needs comprehensive immigration reform. She needs comprehensive immigration reform. Xe needs comprehensive immigration reform. They need comprehensive immigration reform. Non-binary gender non-conforming genderqueers need comprehensive immigration reform. Everybody needs comprehensive immigration reform. Because comprehensive immigration reform is more important than life, water, food and oxygen themselves.
I am a strong, solid advocate for good, clean, top flight, top drawer, strong, solid, robust, common sense, solid as a rock, solid as they come, desperately needed, way overdue, humanitarian, compassion-based comprehensive immigration reform. The kind of immigration reform that melts in your mouth, not in your hand. The kind of immigration reform that plumps when you cook it. The kind of immigration reform that just makes you feel good and shout for joy for a job well done.
Comprehensive immigration reform will raise wages and salaries, strengthen national security, prevent terrorism, enhance our domestic crime-fighting ability, ensure that we continue to encourage the best and brightest to partake of the American dream, enhance our competitiveness and our ability to innovate, and make America more prosperous.
Comprehensive immigration reform will make the economy more fair and equitable, help clean and preserve our environment, bolster Social Security and Medicare, aid the cause of reproductive rights and LGBT rights, drive a stake through the heart of bigotry and discrimination, guarantee social justice for all, and make America more vibrant and diverse.
It will also make immigration more comprehensive.
The reason I advocate comprehensive immigration reform over other ideas is that I checked out the other ideas, and they just aren’t comprehensive, they just don’t do it for me in the comprehensiveness department. I really like the comprehensive nature of comprehensive immigration reform. The best part of comprehensive immigration reform is its comprehensiveness. With comprehensive immigration reform, I’ll be a’comprehensivin. My ultimate goal with immigration reform is to be comprehensiver than thou.
I also have a soft spot in my heart for things that are comprehensive. From a little boy, I remember sitting at our dinner table many evenings, and my father would point his finger straight at me and give me a stern look, and he told me that if I ever got a chance to screw over the goyim, to do it completely and (his own word) “comprehensively.” He was adamant that I not waste any golden or silver or green opportunities. I’m glad to say that I’m finally living up to my father’s expectations. For his most recent birthday present, I had a wooden ventriloquist style caricature doll of myself made, and I call the doll Marc de la Comprehensiva. It’s his third favorite possession in the whole world, his second is his 1978 Lincoln Town Car which he hopes will run forever, and his first is his gold plated Talmud.
The other kinds of immigration reform are also dangerous, because they rely on rhetoric such as “round them up and deport them all,” “build walls,” “make America great again.” That’s the kind of rhetoric that reminds me of Nazi Germany, and the Nazis gassed all ten of my grandmas to death at Auschwitz, a horror which my father personally witnessed and forever vowed to avenge with a now world famous phrase of his invention: “Never again.” Ten grandmas here, ten grandmas there, and that’s how we roll that odometer up to six million. Also, I’m not in the business of making America great again or any country great again, for that matter. I’m all about the leeching off of countries, sucking them dry, and then moving on to the next warm blood source. Our people’s history is such that any time some king, emperor, dictator or politician starts yelling about making his kingdom/empire/country great again, it usually winds up to where our people either lose a lot of our power or are kicked out and exiled altogether, or, as all ten of of my grandmas can attest from the great beyond, worse.
It’s why internationally respected scholars and researchers like Glenn Beck have concluded that the Presidential candidates who spew that kind of rhetoric are exactly like Hitler. They all run around bragging about their puny putrid pitiful little $10 billion fortunes, when the truth of the matter is that they took years to make that kind of money, I made my much larger $50 billion fortune almost overnight. And I mean that literally, because I often wake up and find out I’m worth a few billion more than when I went to sleep. Their fortunes are in old fashioned relics of the past, fuddy duddy stuff like buildings and real estate, and my fortune is in the asset of the future, Facebook stock. They had to make their money the old fashioned way, by earning it, and I made my fortune the new modern progressive way, scamming half the world to give me all their personal information in their tawdry pursuit for their cheap fifteen minutes of fame, so I can turn right around and sell it to Madison Avenue, the Mossad and the NSA. I made my money while I’m still young enough to enjoy spending it to break the back of the goyim.
Thanks for letting me monetize your lives, by and by.
You see, I stole someone else’s idea of a world-changing internet social media network, and it has brought me to the vestibule of omnipotence, omniscience, omnipresence, immortality, and I’m also well on my way to being the world’s first trillionaire. The one missing ingredient is comprehensive immigration reform. At least that’s what a building full of Jewish lawyers who write all my immigration litanies and spiels tell me. Every time I go there to get new marching orders, everyone there starts rubbing their hands together. The strangest part of that is that I had to learn to shake these people’s hands in a really weird way before they started doing business with me. But I’m not going to dwell on it too much, and I’m not going to ask questions, because these are the kind of people who seem like they’ll bring down some major league hurt on your head if you ask too many questions. I’m in the business of becoming obscenely rich, not asking questions. Unfortunately, comprehensive immigration reform won’t solve the most vexxing problem in my life: The wife always nagging me about buying her more shoes.
When I think of comprehensive immigration reform, I think of the only antitode to an ill that has been ailing me for quite some time. Some cartoon frog follows me around everywhere I go throwing parentheses at me, and that damned Peter Thiel is way off in the back somewhere pointing his finger at me and laughing at me. The lack of comprehensive immigration reform is taxing my mental health.
Sometimes, the other kinds of immigration reform wind up being scams. And believe me, I know a thing or three about scams. They promise to be comprehensive, but when you look at what you get, they wind up leaving out a lot of the comprehensiveness. Worse than that, you might get the full 100% comprehensiveness at first, but like a thief in the night, they break in and steal a lot of the comprehensiveness. That’s not the Marc Zuckurburg way, the fully comprehensive way. IEEE, ANSI and UL have certified a less than one ppb impurity ratio of the comprehensiveness in my immigration reform. I’m so nice that I’ll even throw in some extra added bonus comprehensiveness, 25% more free, no extra charge. I also guarantee the comprehensiveness in my immigration reform with a 7 year 70,000 mile limited powertrain warranty that also protects you from rust and corrosion. It covers you from bumper to bumper. It’s the best warranty in the immigration reform business.
This is why poll after poll shows that people support comprehensive solutions to our immigration problems, instead of genocidal solutions that have Nazi rhetoric as their foundations, or solutions bereft of comprehensiveness. It’s why more and more people are giving up silly hobbies like diddling around with fishing lures, or telescopes, or collecting stamps, or sleeping, and joining in Marc’s Comprehensive Corps. People know that middle class greed hurts billionaires in need. What’s mine is mine, what’s yours will soon be mine. People know that source code is literally rotting in the fields. People know not to turn “corporate greed” into a pejorative, because I wouldn’t be where I am today, and I wouldn’t be the putz man I am today without corporate greed. I fly my corporate greed flag high, tall and proud.
Our struggle for comprehensive immigration reform is righteous, albeit arduous. Very difficult, a very steep mountain to climb. The forces of reaction and xenophobia are well funded, their four extremist hate organizations all have bank accounts that run well into the tens of dollars. In contrast, all we have to work with are most billionaires, most corporations, almost all of Hollywood and Silicon Valley, almost all of academia, and a majority of the full force of the Federal government, and the full sympathy of the current Federal executive branch. We are locked in a real Goliath versus David struggle to speak power to truth. But the crusade led by the privileged, rich, organized and powerful against the dispossessed, broke, unorganized and weak is indeed on the right side of history in the current year, and the arc of history bends in the billionaires’ direction. All we can hope for is that we wake up every morning surrounded by our fifteen morning servants to remind us that we have made it to live to fight another day. I know I’m on the right side of history, and that history will judge all of you alt right biogted xenophobes to be deficient and derelict, because I have bought all the historians.
I know as I was growing up and going through school, especially Taking Over and Ruling the World 101 at Harvard, and I got an A in that class, I was taught that the best way to solve your problems is to get rich enough to buy them off. Either that or just wait around for the old man to kick off so you can inherit a piece of his mega-fortune, then use that money to buy off your problems. When life throws you lemons, hire a village full of illegal alien Hondurans to pick them all up, and then have your butler hoof it to Trader Joe’s to buy you some lemonade. I remember when I was in high school that we all worried about a problem called Y2K or Year 2000. Bill Gates solved his Year 2000 problems by buying the year 2000. Likewise, the status quo doesn’t bother me, because I have bought the status quo. When you’ve got the kind of money I do, you can buy lots of status quos.
There needs to be a core focus on comprehensive immigration reform for yet another critical reason — I visit a lot of these alt right websites and blogs on many days, and all their regular commenters do is whine and bellyache about their own selfish petty little concerns. They all be like: My country, my heritage, my millennia-old civilization, my people, my future, my ancestors, my posterity, my racial purity, my blonde hair, my blue eyes, my cartoon frog memes, my border security, my personal security, my quality livable neighborhoods, my affordable family formation, my community social altruism, my country’s economic well being, my fair and equitable distribution of income and wealth, me me me me me. What a bunch of greedy self-righteous cockypop! Not a one of them have the consideration to think about what I need, what I want. And it’s not like it would hurt — I think about me all the time, and it certainly hasn’t hurt me! Me thinking about me for the last 32 years has resulted in me accumulating a $50 billion fortune. If these alt right people would take the time to think about me, my fortune would be far larger. And that would be good for me. Comprehensive immigration reform would amount to a badly needed readjustment of our priorities.
But if my plans fail, and my wife starts snitching to the Securities and Exchange Commission, as she has threatened to do several times when I say I’m not going to buy her any more shoes, I’ll have to hot foot it and be on the next red eye to my secret condo and my secret bank account with a few billion stashed aside in my extradition-free tax haven in southeast Asia. No way I’m gonna let the Feds turn me into Bernie Madoff’s cellmate; that sonofabitch snores so loudly that he’s in a North Carolina prison and I can hear him all the way over here in San Francisco. To think, I only married her because I’m trying to infiltrate the Chinese banking system on behalf of my people, and she and the kids we have together give me an in. Anyway, if I ever seem to go off the grid, that’s where I’ll be, living next door to Saverin. Don’t come looking for me, especially if you’re a Fed. I do not anticipate failure, though, because my second-to-last ditch contingency involves a concept that some debbie downer prosecutors mistakenly call “extortion.” I hold the power of life and death over all of you; you’re going to see to it that I get my comprehensive immigration reform, and if you refuse, I will do worse than kill you — I’ll delete your Facebook pages. There have been cases of people dying from the apoplectic shock caused by the mental anguish of not having access to Facebook for more than four minutes.
It’s also why, in spite of the fact that I know my bad reputation precedes me, for example, I keep hearing everyone behind my back calling me a two-faced shitweasel, and those are just the people that work for me, and are related to me, and are close friends of me, and also my wife, and those were also the first words out of my kid’s mouth, and also, for some reason I can’t figure out, people who know me for long enough wind up saying things behind my back like “Maybe Hitler had a point,” “Maybe I should give Hitler a second look,” and cruel things like that, I want to assure all of you that my support for comprehensive immigration reform is pure and genuine. I will never betray the cause, I will always be loyal, solid as a rock, dependable. So much so that I beg you that when you think of comprehensive immigration reform, you should instantly think of me, the great Marc Zuckurburg.
It’s also why more and more people are saying every day, and you should too:
Make my immigration reform comprehensive, please!
I tried to comment on Amren without joining Discus, but it didn't take - comment got wiped. I'm glad I could reply to you here. I know a lot of people get somewhat annoyed with you on Amren, but I think you are damn funny. One time you had a long post like your one here (maybe it was the same one), and I was possibly the only one on Amren who read the whole thing.
Keep it up. It never fails to make me smile.
(BTW, how is your Chinese bride? Does she go? Is she a goer, know what I mean, nudge, nudge, wink wink? )Replies: @Marc Zuckurburg
Good God. I couldn’t read a zillion words about this unpleasant, unattractive creature.
Steve, please write fewer words, about more topics. Fun topics, like you usually do. TIA.
No, but part of it does.
“Unlike Trump, who has the diplomacy of a Twitter troll”
He *is* a Twitter troll. You don’t have to come up with an metaphor to explain what he already is. That’s like saying Bill Clinton had the diplomacy of a Bill Clinton.
Except Twitter Trump is not Trump-Trump, which I think they know. The idea that that would have much of anything to do with actual diplomacy I have always found laughable. Apart from the possibility that the global MSM will deliberately attempt to use his public persona to bring down deals and upset relations.
Already he’s done more than Obama did to win his Peace Prize. Judging by how he acts on Twitter, I never would’ve expected what he’s done with Mexico, Russia, and the Pope, to name a few. He didn’t call them “fat cows” to the delight of the deplorable masses. But I’m not stupid enough to judge by Twitter Trump.
Facies liber delenda est!
What color t-shirt will he wear to the Inaugural Ball in 2021 if he wins?
Hillary’s seizures kept her off the campaign trail in August. Zuckerberg sweats a lot but otherwise looks pretty healthy, although only in the sense that a young lizard looks pretty healthy within the confines of an air-conditioned pet shop.
In a debate with Trump, Zuckerberg will wind up sopping wet before ten minutes have gone by. Just when you thought the Dems couldn’t find a more distasteful candidate to run for president than Hillary, Zuckerberg rears his ugly, sweaty lizard head!
Isn’t there some English guy who thinks that all American politicians are really Reptilians, hiding underneath human skin? Zuckerberg proves his theory!
Zuck has the kind of personality that, no matter what he decides to do, he’s going to do it better than anyone else on the planet,” someone close to him said to me a couple of years ago.
Translation: he found one thing he could do well, it succeeded enormously because the time for it was right, so now he’s surrounded by sycophants who tell him that can do anything better than anybody.
Translation: he found one thing he could do well, it succeeded enormously because the time for it was right, so now he’s surrounded by sycophants who tell him that can do anything better than anybody
Translation: he stole one thing he could do well, it succeeded enormously because the right people interceded on his behalf and interfered with the guys who had created the one thing, so now he's surrounded by sycophants who tell him that he can do anything better than anybody.
In reference to another post, I still have never received a satisfactory explanation as to why Facebook has been so phenomenally successful while MySpace simply disappeared. I leave open two possibilities: (1) I am unable to understand the technical explanation, or (2) I am simply unwilling to accept the explanation.Replies: @anon
Just to get it out of the way, the only movie I’ve ever liked Jesse Eisenberg in was The Social Network. He just comes across as unpleasant and unlikable in his acting demeanor so it’s no wonder that I liked him playing Mark Zuckerberg.
As to the actual prospect of Zuckerberg actually running for president I’d say he wouldn’t even be a contender for a party nomination. Just his whole political ambition revolves around his ego. Although all politicians need to be narcissistic to a degree to promote themselves and their platform (that’s just life), it seems like he thinks he should be president because he founded MySpace 2.0. If you want to look at the difference between naked ambition with narcissism and at least feigned concern for the public with narcissism then you only need to ask yourself which of the Clintons was successful. Not to mention that Facebook’s business conducts are far more controversial than Trump’s real estate deals. Zuckerberg has funded fwd.us, a lobby group specifically tailored to outsource jobs, datamines users personal information to sell to marketing firms, overt and documented political censorship with fake news production and general news manipulation. Hell, there would be a myriad of controversies that I can’t think of the top of my head that would sink his candidacy. He’s basically an Orwellian 2.0 corporate nightmare.
To finish it off, I hate, hate, hate the argument that manufacturing jobs don’t exist so they’re no point trying to bring them back. Everything is made in China, the government pours in immigrants to dilute the labor market and corporations outsource jobs overseas. If these jobs didn’t exist then none of these policies would be so rigorously advocated for by special interests. Even in some fantasy land where everything was manufactured by robots, then by just having the factories in the USA rather than overseas would still create jobs. Anybody who advocates the delusion that these jobs don’t exist should be thrown onto the street and forced to starve.
He was nicer in Roger Dodger, which is another movie I inexplicably like.Replies: @Harry Baldwin, @anonymouslee
Zuckerberg will be what???
Only in Silicon Valley Echo chamber.
Begone!
Go back to your tweets, dweebs!
If anyone remembers Facebook when the next bubble burst is on remission, I would be amazed.
Mark Zuckerberg may be one of the select few potential Democratic nominees for national office, who is actually more unappealing than Hillary Clinton. It’s a close run thing, in any event.
Awkward, unattractive, shark-eyed, Aspie, Jewish billionaire with an equally unappealing wife whose agenda couldn’t be more status quo and elite-friendly?
I literally can’t think of a more unappealing candidate. So I say DO IT! Look into my eyes Zuckerberg, DO IT!
There are people who made fortunes making great things, but you made a snobbish version of Myspace (In the process wiping billions in productivity from the world economy and opening up whole new avenues of people to feel bad about themselves by comparing each others lives) and think you’d done something worthwhile with your life?
If Zuckerberg was as smart as he thinks he must hate himself for using his genius to accomplish literally nothing with his life. He couldn’t even get a nice trophy wife!
https://heartiste.wordpress.com/2016/09/22/is-zuckerberg-getting-cuckerberged/Replies: @Chrisnonymous
President Obama’s former campaign manager, David Plouffe, joined the philanthropic Chan Zuckerberg Initiative, to lead policy and advocacy.
Funny how political consultants are drawn to giant piles of money. It’s almost like their primary talent. Maybe their only talent.
If the Zuck is seriously contemplating a run for office, he might regret having pushed the open-borders agenda so aggressively.
That reminds me of Tom Lehrer's quip about the medical student who decided to specialize in diseases of the rich.
You can’t call Zuckerberg an atheist. Like Obama, he believes in Himself and Himself is God, sort of.
Zuckerberg would be eligible to run for President in 2020. 32 is 463 years old in Lizard Years.
Didn’t Zuckerberg once call users of Facebook “stupid fucks” or “dumb fucks?”
Zuckerberg is the lizard face of the company. What does that make him? A double stupid fuck lizard?
How can Zuckerberg become President when everybody knows that Jim Morrison is the true Lizard King, now and for all time?
As a child, he was enamored with literature, and while most people just read books, Zuckerberg instead decided to memorize them.
OK, he really is a sperge. That stupid movie got at least one thing right. The best sort of person to run against a geek is a super-alpha. You want to recreate the Trump-Jeb dynamic.
Zuckerberg isn’t concerned with Russia
Russia has its own social network called V Kontakte (“in contact”, meaning in touch). Doesn’t China have its own versions of Facebook, Twitter, Google, etc? In the modern world you can’t have real sovereignty if Zucky and friends are letting the US government see most of your people’s conversations with each other.
There is nothing more laughable than reading the delusions of lottery billionaires and their hagiographers.
Liking Game of Thrones? As does every teenager.
Enjoying RISK? Does he not understand that the basic strategy of RISK is to build a wall against any choke-point between your territory and the enemy territory? It a game so devoid of skill I am amazed someone would mention it. Plus…wall-building…ugh!!
His Facebook “empire” boasts so many users because it requires no monetary outlay by the people stupid enough to use it. Anything “free” will always get the maximum number of users.
Whatever money Facebook does generate is built on a peculiar interpretation of intellectual property law: that, somehow, Facebook owns the personal data about you. How difficult would it be to crumble this “empire” with a stroke of a pen, like with a “right to be forgotten” law? Maybe that is why he is so worried about China. China can simply block Facebook from it’s IP (internet protocol) space. We need to go to war with China so that China can’t prevent Facebook from propagandizing Chinese citizens.
Knowing Mandarin? Why? The Chinese leadership speaks English. Is he fooling them into thinking that he is not white?
The Classics? Great…every kid has read Edith Hamilton.
And, of course, the last paragraph of Zuck demanding immigration when robots are going to take all the jobs is classic realtalk.
I wonder if Zuck has checked to make sure that his wealth has not been surreptitiously transferred to his wife’s name?
I didn't. Any good?Replies: @map
Harvard is full of them.
These are not people worth knowing.
I figured that’s what was behind his sockpuppeting the drive to have all voting done via “social” “media.”
Via voting on Facebook?
Ohnay itshay, erlockShay!
There won’t be Emperor Zuckerberg since we already have Emperor Trump and Trump has many sons. If Trump builds a Great Southern Wall, brings millions of high paying manufacturing jobs to rust belt, expels all illegal aliens, imposes high tariffs on Chinese and other imports, there will be much agitation to roll back 22nd Amendment.
I need comprehensive immigration reform. You need comprehensive immigration reform. He needs comprehensive immigration reform. She needs comprehensive immigration reform. Xe needs comprehensive immigration reform. They need comprehensive immigration reform. Non-binary gender non-conforming genderqueers need comprehensive immigration reform. Everybody needs comprehensive immigration reform. Because comprehensive immigration reform is more important than life, water, food and oxygen themselves.
I am a strong, solid advocate for good, clean, top flight, top drawer, strong, solid, robust, common sense, solid as a rock, solid as they come, desperately needed, way overdue, humanitarian, compassion-based comprehensive immigration reform. The kind of immigration reform that melts in your mouth, not in your hand. The kind of immigration reform that plumps when you cook it. The kind of immigration reform that just makes you feel good and shout for joy for a job well done.
Comprehensive immigration reform will raise wages and salaries, strengthen national security, prevent terrorism, enhance our domestic crime-fighting ability, ensure that we continue to encourage the best and brightest to partake of the American dream, enhance our competitiveness and our ability to innovate, and make America more prosperous.
Comprehensive immigration reform will make the economy more fair and equitable, help clean and preserve our environment, bolster Social Security and Medicare, aid the cause of reproductive rights and LGBT rights, drive a stake through the heart of bigotry and discrimination, guarantee social justice for all, and make America more vibrant and diverse.
It will also make immigration more comprehensive.
The reason I advocate comprehensive immigration reform over other ideas is that I checked out the other ideas, and they just aren’t comprehensive, they just don’t do it for me in the comprehensiveness department. I really like the comprehensive nature of comprehensive immigration reform. The best part of comprehensive immigration reform is its comprehensiveness. With comprehensive immigration reform, I’ll be a’comprehensivin. My ultimate goal with immigration reform is to be comprehensiver than thou.
I also have a soft spot in my heart for things that are comprehensive. From a little boy, I remember sitting at our dinner table many evenings, and my father would point his finger straight at me and give me a stern look, and he told me that if I ever got a chance to screw over the goyim, to do it completely and (his own word) “comprehensively.” He was adamant that I not waste any golden or silver or green opportunities. I’m glad to say that I’m finally living up to my father’s expectations. For his most recent birthday present, I had a wooden ventriloquist style caricature doll of myself made, and I call the doll Marc de la Comprehensiva. It’s his third favorite possession in the whole world, his second is his 1978 Lincoln Town Car which he hopes will run forever, and his first is his gold plated Talmud.
The other kinds of immigration reform are also dangerous, because they rely on rhetoric such as “round them up and deport them all,” “build walls,” “make America great again.” That’s the kind of rhetoric that reminds me of Nazi Germany, and the Nazis gassed all ten of my grandmas to death at Auschwitz, a horror which my father personally witnessed and forever vowed to avenge with a now world famous phrase of his invention: “Never again.” Ten grandmas here, ten grandmas there, and that’s how we roll that odometer up to six million. Also, I’m not in the business of making America great again or any country great again, for that matter. I’m all about the leeching off of countries, sucking them dry, and then moving on to the next warm blood source. Our people’s history is such that any time some king, emperor, dictator or politician starts yelling about making his kingdom/empire/country great again, it usually winds up to where our people either lose a lot of our power or are kicked out and exiled altogether, or, as all ten of of my grandmas can attest from the great beyond, worse.
It’s why internationally respected scholars and researchers like Glenn Beck have concluded that the Presidential candidates who spew that kind of rhetoric are exactly like Hitler. They all run around bragging about their puny putrid pitiful little $10 billion fortunes, when the truth of the matter is that they took years to make that kind of money, I made my much larger $50 billion fortune almost overnight. And I mean that literally, because I often wake up and find out I’m worth a few billion more than when I went to sleep. Their fortunes are in old fashioned relics of the past, fuddy duddy stuff like buildings and real estate, and my fortune is in the asset of the future, Facebook stock. They had to make their money the old fashioned way, by earning it, and I made my fortune the new modern progressive way, scamming half the world to give me all their personal information in their tawdry pursuit for their cheap fifteen minutes of fame, so I can turn right around and sell it to Madison Avenue, the Mossad and the NSA. I made my money while I’m still young enough to enjoy spending it to break the back of the goyim.
Thanks for letting me monetize your lives, by and by.
You see, I stole someone else’s idea of a world-changing internet social media network, and it has brought me to the vestibule of omnipotence, omniscience, omnipresence, immortality, and I’m also well on my way to being the world’s first trillionaire. The one missing ingredient is comprehensive immigration reform. At least that’s what a building full of Jewish lawyers who write all my immigration litanies and spiels tell me. Every time I go there to get new marching orders, everyone there starts rubbing their hands together. The strangest part of that is that I had to learn to shake these people’s hands in a really weird way before they started doing business with me. But I’m not going to dwell on it too much, and I’m not going to ask questions, because these are the kind of people who seem like they’ll bring down some major league hurt on your head if you ask too many questions. I’m in the business of becoming obscenely rich, not asking questions. Unfortunately, comprehensive immigration reform won’t solve the most vexxing problem in my life: The wife always nagging me about buying her more shoes.
When I think of comprehensive immigration reform, I think of the only antitode to an ill that has been ailing me for quite some time. Some cartoon frog follows me around everywhere I go throwing parentheses at me, and that damned Peter Thiel is way off in the back somewhere pointing his finger at me and laughing at me. The lack of comprehensive immigration reform is taxing my mental health.
Sometimes, the other kinds of immigration reform wind up being scams. And believe me, I know a thing or three about scams. They promise to be comprehensive, but when you look at what you get, they wind up leaving out a lot of the comprehensiveness. Worse than that, you might get the full 100% comprehensiveness at first, but like a thief in the night, they break in and steal a lot of the comprehensiveness. That’s not the Marc Zuckurburg way, the fully comprehensive way. IEEE, ANSI and UL have certified a less than one ppb impurity ratio of the comprehensiveness in my immigration reform. I’m so nice that I’ll even throw in some extra added bonus comprehensiveness, 25% more free, no extra charge. I also guarantee the comprehensiveness in my immigration reform with a 7 year 70,000 mile limited powertrain warranty that also protects you from rust and corrosion. It covers you from bumper to bumper. It’s the best warranty in the immigration reform business.
This is why poll after poll shows that people support comprehensive solutions to our immigration problems, instead of genocidal solutions that have Nazi rhetoric as their foundations, or solutions bereft of comprehensiveness. It’s why more and more people are giving up silly hobbies like diddling around with fishing lures, or telescopes, or collecting stamps, or sleeping, and joining in Marc’s Comprehensive Corps. People know that middle class greed hurts billionaires in need. What’s mine is mine, what’s yours will soon be mine. People know that source code is literally rotting in the fields. People know not to turn “corporate greed” into a pejorative, because I wouldn’t be where I am today, and I wouldn’t be the putz man I am today without corporate greed. I fly my corporate greed flag high, tall and proud.
Our struggle for comprehensive immigration reform is righteous, albeit arduous. Very difficult, a very steep mountain to climb. The forces of reaction and xenophobia are well funded, their four extremist hate organizations all have bank accounts that run well into the tens of dollars. In contrast, all we have to work with are most billionaires, most corporations, almost all of Hollywood and Silicon Valley, almost all of academia, and a majority of the full force of the Federal government, and the full sympathy of the current Federal executive branch. We are locked in a real Goliath versus David struggle to speak power to truth. But the crusade led by the privileged, rich, organized and powerful against the dispossessed, broke, unorganized and weak is indeed on the right side of history in the current year, and the arc of history bends in the billionaires’ direction. All we can hope for is that we wake up every morning surrounded by our fifteen morning servants to remind us that we have made it to live to fight another day. I know I’m on the right side of history, and that history will judge all of you alt right biogted xenophobes to be deficient and derelict, because I have bought all the historians.
I know as I was growing up and going through school, especially Taking Over and Ruling the World 101 at Harvard, and I got an A in that class, I was taught that the best way to solve your problems is to get rich enough to buy them off. Either that or just wait around for the old man to kick off so you can inherit a piece of his mega-fortune, then use that money to buy off your problems. When life throws you lemons, hire a village full of illegal alien Hondurans to pick them all up, and then have your butler hoof it to Trader Joe’s to buy you some lemonade. I remember when I was in high school that we all worried about a problem called Y2K or Year 2000. Bill Gates solved his Year 2000 problems by buying the year 2000. Likewise, the status quo doesn’t bother me, because I have bought the status quo. When you’ve got the kind of money I do, you can buy lots of status quos.
There needs to be a core focus on comprehensive immigration reform for yet another critical reason — I visit a lot of these alt right websites and blogs on many days, and all their regular commenters do is whine and bellyache about their own selfish petty little concerns. They all be like: My country, my heritage, my millennia-old civilization, my people, my future, my ancestors, my posterity, my racial purity, my blonde hair, my blue eyes, my cartoon frog memes, my border security, my personal security, my quality livable neighborhoods, my affordable family formation, my community social altruism, my country’s economic well being, my fair and equitable distribution of income and wealth, me me me me me. What a bunch of greedy self-righteous cockypop! Not a one of them have the consideration to think about what I need, what I want. And it’s not like it would hurt — I think about me all the time, and it certainly hasn’t hurt me! Me thinking about me for the last 32 years has resulted in me accumulating a $50 billion fortune. If these alt right people would take the time to think about me, my fortune would be far larger. And that would be good for me. Comprehensive immigration reform would amount to a badly needed readjustment of our priorities.
But if my plans fail, and my wife starts snitching to the Securities and Exchange Commission, as she has threatened to do several times when I say I’m not going to buy her any more shoes, I’ll have to hot foot it and be on the next red eye to my secret condo and my secret bank account with a few billion stashed aside in my extradition-free tax haven in southeast Asia. No way I’m gonna let the Feds turn me into Bernie Madoff’s cellmate; that sonofabitch snores so loudly that he’s in a North Carolina prison and I can hear him all the way over here in San Francisco. To think, I only married her because I’m trying to infiltrate the Chinese banking system on behalf of my people, and she and the kids we have together give me an in. Anyway, if I ever seem to go off the grid, that’s where I’ll be, living next door to Saverin. Don’t come looking for me, especially if you’re a Fed. I do not anticipate failure, though, because my second-to-last ditch contingency involves a concept that some debbie downer prosecutors mistakenly call “extortion.” I hold the power of life and death over all of you; you’re going to see to it that I get my comprehensive immigration reform, and if you refuse, I will do worse than kill you — I’ll delete your Facebook pages. There have been cases of people dying from the apoplectic shock caused by the mental anguish of not having access to Facebook for more than four minutes.
It’s also why, in spite of the fact that I know my bad reputation precedes me, for example, I keep hearing everyone behind my back calling me a two-faced shitweasel, and those are just the people that work for me, and are related to me, and are close friends of me, and also my wife, and those were also the first words out of my kid’s mouth, and also, for some reason I can’t figure out, people who know me for long enough wind up saying things behind my back like “Maybe Hitler had a point,” “Maybe I should give Hitler a second look,” and cruel things like that, I want to assure all of you that my support for comprehensive immigration reform is pure and genuine. I will never betray the cause, I will always be loyal, solid as a rock, dependable. So much so that I beg you that when you think of comprehensive immigration reform, you should instantly think of me, the great Marc Zuckurburg.
It’s also why more and more people are saying every day, and you should too:
Make my immigration reform comprehensive, please!Replies: @Kyle McKenna, @Achmed E Newman
Love it, but you could have just linked us you know…
Dear Mr. Sailer,
Razib just tweeted a link to this article in “Nature”
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Nature | News Feature
How to raise a genius: lessons from a 45-year study of super-smart children
A long-running investigation of exceptional children reveals what it takes to produce the scientists who will lead the twenty-first century.
Tom Clynes
07 September 2016
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It very much confirms your long held opinion about nature versus nurture.
And it also mentions Mark Zuckerberg as part of that extremely gifted cohort of children.
Kasich is another good example, IMO.
Funny how political consultants are drawn to giant piles of money. It's almost like their primary talent. Maybe their only talent.
If the Zuck is seriously contemplating a run for office, he might regret having pushed the open-borders agenda so aggressively.Replies: @anon, @Mr. Anon
Unless Trump actually reverses the number trends then it will be an advantage.
Trump quietly sitting there playing out the rope…
We go through this boy genius stuff over and over, from Jobs/Gates for PC empires, for any number of Internet Wunderkind – Andreesen, Steve Case – who all purportedly have mystical powers to now the social media titans.
Very few have made it outside their original areas of focus. Recently, a few have, like Musk presumably with Tesla, but that is really just an indication that our system has recently grown more corrupt and crony-capitalistic.
Tesla is a house of cards built on BS and SV hype, we all know that. Real electric cars are going to come from traditional manufacturers.
This will come and go with Zuckerberg, been there/done that with any number of admittedly quite sharp guys who still had to win the lottery as part of their success.
All part and parcel of the capitalist system. Sometimes you succeed, other times you fail.Replies: @Steve Sailer
That is because there is no such thing as “Judeo-Christian values”. There are Judaic values and Christian Values.
It’s kind of like saying that Noah Webster created a secular speller for the nation. It is only said by people who have never read either the 1783 or the 1787 versions of his speller (and who do not know how to use a search engine to search for sentences that look like they might come from the New Testament.)
One problem is that the alt right anti-semites don't understand Christianity particularly well so they aren't familiar with the great deal of linkages between the old and New Testament. The idea that the seminal formulatoe of Christianity, Paul, wasn't influence by "Judiac" (I love the creativity you guys go to in order to find synonyms for Jewish) values is absurd. The Christians that founded this country certainly saw the similarities.Replies: @Chase, @Kyle McKenna, @The most deplorable one, @Dumbo, @Mr. Anon, @Mr. Anon
Despite all the sentimental rhetoric to the contrary — such as pious nonsense about “the Judaeo-Christian tradition” — Judaism and Christianity are radically opposed over the most important thing of all: Jesus Christ, who commands us to be wise as serpents and harmless as doves, and to love our enemies, which does not mean mistaking them for friends.
Mammon is always a popular choice with the political class.
“A few observers have noted how much Zuckerberg looks like the Emperor Caligula.”
Steve, I’m sure you’ve visited the smaller Getty museum in Malibu (not the immense one farther north on the 405). It has a large collection of classical Roman statuary, I think including that famous bust of Caligula. The exhibition makes clear that Caligula was probably very ugly, as most writers of his time describe him, and looked nothing like his generic, stylized bust.
Getty Junior is a great way to spend a day and the price is right: free! Just gotta pay for parking.
Zuckerberg the budding politician was to scared to go to the meeting Trump had with literally every other major tech ceo. He sent Sheryl Sandburg instead. He wouldn’t last five minutes in a debate with anyone, let alone Trump.
Schindler is just a fucking douchebag with a Twitter account.
The CIA's first attempt at an attack on Trump blew up in their faces. I've noticed Trump has filled graveyards with people who underestimated him.Replies: @anon, @Desiderius
Eg:
http://observer.com/2017/01/donald-trump-press-conference-prague-michael-cohen/...And then, a few paragraphs later:So it's critically important that Cohen prove he wasn't in Prague, but then again it's not. It sounds like Schindler was leaked the report, bought it hook, line, and sinker, saw it blow up in his face, but still can't quite let go of it. Now (he goes on to argue) the fact that the report is false is evidence that the Russians planted it to conceal even darker compromising material.Replies: @JerryC
Zuckerberg wouldn’t even go to the tech meeting with Trump. He sent Sheryl Sandburg instead. He won’t run, he’s too think skinned for it.
LOL.
Will the real fake news,
Please stand up, please stand up!
So now we have fake news, fake fake news, and real fake news.
The fakestream media don’t want to admit it yet (other than the NYT, which now forbids the phrase), but President Trump utterly and thoroughly appropriated the term “fake news” for our side now. Thanks to Trump, when people think “fake news” now, they think of mainstream media stories that are fraudulent or at best incorrect. Thank you, President Trump!
There a fake news.
Everywhere a fake news.
The Donald had a farm.
E -I- E- I -O.
Speaking of the disturbingly masculine character of the Alt-Right, Ann Coulter has noticed an interesting pattern:
https://www.amren.com/commentary/2017/01/tips-for-hate-crime-hoaxers-ann-coulter/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noble_lie
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pious_fraud
Seconded. I’m a heterosexual male, so what do I know, but Eisenberg seems considerably more masculine and conventionally handsome than Zuckerberg:
Impossible. Cuckerberg has the charisma of a wet hen.
Mark Zuckerberg did a video with Morgan Freeman to show off a more Human side to him and he still came off as extremely robotic & stiff. Mark Zuckerberg is Crooked Cankles with a penis.
It's kind of like saying that Noah Webster created a secular speller for the nation. It is only said by people who have never read either the 1783 or the 1787 versions of his speller (and who do not know how to use a search engine to search for sentences that look like they might come from the New Testament.)Replies: @Sam Haysom, @Steve from Detroit
Maybe walk around less when posting and focus more. This post is incomprehensible- how claims that Noah Webster’s Reader was secular even if they do what on earth does that have to Judeo-Christian.
One problem is that the alt right anti-semites don’t understand Christianity particularly well so they aren’t familiar with the great deal of linkages between the old and New Testament. The idea that the seminal formulatoe of Christianity, Paul, wasn’t influence by “Judiac” (I love the creativity you guys go to in order to find synonyms for Jewish) values is absurd. The Christians that founded this country certainly saw the similarities.
Should we also refer to Judeo-Islamism on the basis that some historians suggest that Islam started out as a Judaizing Christian sect?Replies: @Thea
Also, the practices of Hassidic Judaism are very alien to most Christians. In fact, they are alien even to secular Jews.
So, if in religious terms there is a clear difference, secular Jews and secular Christians are perhaps more connected, culturally, since Jews inhabited for many years in Christian countries and interacted with the population, so there are more than a few things in common.
But then it would be better to call this Judeo-Atheist culture, or something else. There's little of Christian in it, and not much of Judeo either.
I'm sorry if I could not make it clearer. Need more coffee.
Huh? Photos of this dweeb sicken me. Just by his looks but also that he wields so much power. A real conservative businessman tries to build a family business dynasty. The Donald is doing well in this department. Compare this to Cuckersperg who in boring, predictable, Silicon Valley clone like fashion, is pledging to give away most of his wealth because he does not want to spoil his children. Same as the gay Apple honcho, Tim Cook, who doesn’t have children anyway.
Mordechai is a natural born citizen. Once beyond the age of 35 he is eligible. Let him run. If the voters decide he is the man, then he is the man.
NOT the career politician and a businessman who has accomplished something with his life. Outside the Beltway, a newcomer with fresh ideas.
Sorta like Don. Hell, I might even vote for the man.
http://pixel.nymag.com/imgs/daily/vulture/2015/06/02/02-jesse-eisenberg-chatroom.w1200.h630.jpgReplies: @Sam Haysom
Zuckerberg looks more friendly and less shifty. An I don’t think conventionally handsome can be applied to either. I’ll add that it isn’t at all clear that looking more masculine is an asset in politics. All things equal you are probaly better off looking slightly feminine because it makes you look younger and high testosterone is associated with hair loss.
Very few have made it outside their original areas of focus. Recently, a few have, like Musk presumably with Tesla, but that is really just an indication that our system has recently grown more corrupt and crony-capitalistic.
Tesla is a house of cards built on BS and SV hype, we all know that. Real electric cars are going to come from traditional manufacturers.
This will come and go with Zuckerberg, been there/done that with any number of admittedly quite sharp guys who still had to win the lottery as part of their success.Replies: @Adar.
“Tesla is a house of cards built on BS and SV hype, we all know that. Real electric cars are going to come from traditional manufacturers.”
All part and parcel of the capitalist system. Sometimes you succeed, other times you fail.
‘Bridge’ has become a big metaphor since the Clinton era. Clinton was gonna build a bridge to the 21st century, and Obama was supposed to be the bridge of global-citizenship.
And Europe has built a neo-Bifrost to ‘wilkommen’ the massive invasion by barbarians to bring about Eurodammerung. Original Bifrost of Germanic Mythology was a beautiful rainbow. The neo-frost, or bi-sexual-frost, has homo ‘rainbow’ colors, and it’s supposed to be the great highway that connects Europe to Africa and Middle East. How will that work out? Even in the original Germanic mythology, the Giants attacked the world of the gods through the great bridge.
http://norse-mythology.org/cosmology/bifrost/
“During Ragnarok, the giants breach Heimdall’s defenses and cross the bridge to storm Asgard and slay the gods.”
Raggernarok this time?
This bridge-mania wasn’t always so. Many WWII and other war heroes feature bridge-explosion-experts as heroes. FOR WHOM THE BELL TOLLS.
DUCK YOU SUCKER also has a bridge blowing scene.
So does GOOD BAD UGLY. And WILD BUNCH. And of course, the most famous of all, BRIDGE ON THE RIVER KWAI.
In all these films, the good guys are the defensive, and the bridge must be blown up cuz it’s the pathway used by the enemy for victory and domination.
When the good guys are not blowing up bridges, they are blowing up railroad tracks or dams. All the better to stop the momentum of the enemy. Just about every war has a famous narrative with the bridge.
But now, the US is the center of the globo-empire, and it’s all about building bridges all over to take over, dominate, and own…. even though morally and culturally, globalism is a road to nowhere.
BRIDGE ON THE RIVER KWAI is especially relevant in our time as a cautionary tale of how we can lose sight of things. It shows how the worst kind of treason can be mistaken as the highest kind of patriotism. Consider how EU keeps invoking ‘western values’ to allow this massive invasion to destroy the West.
It is sort of like what happens with the colonel in BRIDGE played by Alec Guinness. He ends up committing an act of treason but is convinced he is upholding the highest principles of the British military. And the funny thing is he is right, in a way.
Being part of British Civilization means to believe in order, discipline, purpose, hierarchy, and ability. And by building the bridge, the colonel showcases the Best of British Values. Indeed, he believes he has triumphed over the Japanese in his own special way by demonstrating that the British are better at organization, engineering, team-work, and leadership than the Japanese are. Japanese may be hardworking, obedient, and etc, but they lack the combination of spark, leadership, inspiration, camaraderie, and hierarchy that are combined so resourcefully among the Brits. So, he is convinced he is practicing, serving, and showcasing British Values. He if half-right. But the inescapable fact is he has ended up aiding the enemy in wartime. He has committed an act of great treason. His personal tragedy is he did this believing that he was actually serving the British or at least British Values. And his logic made some sense by International Laws. By building the bridge for the Japanese, the the enemy compromised and promised humane treatment for the POW’s in accordance to international agreements.
Now, we see EU in the same kind of Grand Delusion. In a way, this stuff about inviting the world in the name of ‘Western Values’ has a kernel of truth. Yes, one of the reasons for the advancement of the West is the culture of greater tolerance, openness, universalism, and rising above tribalism. But those values were useful to the extent that they served, strengthened, and secured the West. In the end, we are organisms, not ideas. Ideas exist to serve organisms, and the human organism finds the most meaning as part of a race, culture, history, and geography.
Identity must come before empathy. Identity means to, first and foremost, identify with one’s own people. Empathy, at least in globo-lingo, means to identify primarilyl with others than with your own kind(even as you continue to feel most comfy with your own kind in your everyday life).
Western Values may be applicable to other peoples, the Rest. But they came into existence primarily to serve Western Peoples. I highly doubt if the ancestors of Europe went through all that toils, wars, and struggles just so their descendants would one day piss away their inheritance to masses of foreigners who just want free stuff and piss on the gravestones of the Europeans.
Western Values cannot be Restern Values. Once globalized ‘western values’ invite too many non-western peoples, the West as a people, culture, and history is finished. Of course, clever idiots will then insist that the West will live on because the invaders are… uh… ‘New Europeans’. And maybe these PC dolts will insist that African ways are ‘new western ways’ and Muslim Laws are ‘new western values’. In fact, the newcomers will not identify with Europe for the same reason that whites and Asians in Hawaii don’t identify with Hawaiian peoples and culture. Their idea of ‘Hawaiian ‘is totally different that of the native Hawaiians. New Hawaiians are not real Hawaiians. They are just part of the American nation or globo-empire(as Hawaii turns ever more into a hodge-podge of globo-horde-ism).
Also, the whole globo concept of ‘western values’ is contradictory. If, as the EU now says, Europe is just an Idea and its values belong to the world, why not have those values spread around the world? After all, ideas and values are portable and can be passed around like satellite news. So, if ‘western values’ are indeed universal and so great, then, the Rest can easily gain access to those values & ideas and change their own nations for the better. Ideas, information, methods, and ways can be transported without the mass movements of peoples, esp in this day of easy communication. All the theories, technologies, medical knowledge, and etc of the West can be accessed in any part of the world. There are now free online courses on every subject. A person in a small town with internet connection has more wide/instant access to news than NY Times did prior to the internet.
So, if ‘western values’ are applicable to ALL peoples, then they are available to all peoples wherever they may be. Even poor Africans with internet connection can find all the stuff about western science, medicine, philosophy, and etc. He can learn more about philosophy, literature, cinema, music, economics, math, and art than a student at Harvard prior to the advent of the internet.
Also, if globo-PC says ‘race is just a myth’ and all races are equally capable if given the same access to knowledge, then all races around the world should be able to use the knowledge of the West–available online and through other means of communication–and change their own societies for the better. So, why do these people have to come to the West when the ideas of ‘western values’ are so easily available to them? Indeed, someone in Africa with internet connection has more access to instant knowledge than a professor at Harvard or Oxford prior to the internet. When I started college in 85, they still had the card catalog even though they were in the process of replacing the whole thing with computer catalog. (Of course, HBD folks know why. Due to IQ differences and other factors, most black Africans won’t do much in their own nations even if they have access to all those ideas, methods, and means of the West. So, the ONLY way they can enjoy modernity is by moving to the modern world. But if that is true, then it means larger presence of black Africans will destroy the modern world since most of these people are innately unfit to run modern societies. It will just lead to the Baltimorization of the West.)
It is the ideas that are supposed to move around, not entire populations. After all, if there are 100 communities and one has the art of fire-making, it is the art of fire that should travel to the other 99 communities who should learn to make their own fire. It would make no sense for the 99 communities to try to move to the ONE community that makes fire in order to roast marshmellows.
The paradoxical thing about globalism is the world-wide-connectedness provides EVERY PEOPLE with all the ideas and knowledge they need to build a modern nation. But instead of trying to take those ideas and building modern nations of their own, too many Third Worlders just see the ‘good life’ and ‘all that fun’ in the videos and images of the West. So, they reject the ideas and just wanna move to the West to leech off its largesse.
It’s like this: Imagine one community has the art of fire, 99 doesn’t. Only the one community has warmth and light, the 99 have darkness. But the one community with fire hands out smart phones to the 99 other communities, and it shows how fire can be made in their own communities. But instead of using their smartphones to see how fire is made, everyone in the 99 communities just sees the fire in the One Community and wanna rush to the ONE community to enjoy the easy fire. So, even though the smartphones were handed out to other communities so that they can learn to make fire too, the ONLY thing that the other communities learned is ‘Let’s go to the One Community for the easy fire.’
But then, the problem is with the West itself. In the past, Western peoples had a sense of history and heritage, and this reminded them that the good life didn’t fall out of the sky. It had to be gained and built through much struggle, sacrifice, and etc. But over time, Western people grew decadent, hedonistic, amnesiac. So, they think they are rich and have it easy cuz they just do… and it is a ‘right’ than an achievement made possible over the many generations. So, the Western themes are no longer about historical struggle to create a better world. Rather, it is “We got it so good, and it is a ‘right’.” So, all the peoples around the world just see the Hedonism or La-Dolce-Vita-ism of the West. They feel that modernity and prosperity are a ‘right’ than something that they should strive and struggle for. So, instead of taking Western Ideas and diligently working on them to make a better society, they just want easy good stuff like what the westerners have.
Also, the afro-hedonization of Western Culture has spread the ideal of insta-gratification. Even though EU talks of ‘western values’, much of its pop culture is an imitation of Afro-American-neo-jungle-ism. And whites themselves have rejected the narratives of the struggling pioneers of the American West who make sacrifices for family, civilization, and future. And Europeans no longer identify with the British soldiers in ZULU who work together and make great sacrifices to hold the unit together. (And even the idea of revolution is more like a rave-o-lution. MATRIX takes the idea of the Che-Guevara-T-shirt-and-mug to its logical conclusion. The real Che chose spartan struggle and died rather miserably. Though some kind of nut, he really believe in sacrifice and struggle. In contrast, the revolution in MATRIX is one long fashion-show-rave-party-and-gay-parade. Calvin Klein Drug Orgy Marxism.)
When the West itself has become barbarized in culture and themes, its example to the world cannot be good. When the famous American icons were serious writers like Faulkner & Hemingway(Old Man and the Sea) and adult icons like John Wayne & Gregory Peck & Gary Cooper characters, the message sent to the world was one of Hard Work, Sacrifice, Maturity, and Grit are good.
So, nothing comes easy. It takes great struggle, like what Heston as Moses does in TEN COMMANDMENTS(though he is something of a party pooper). But look at American icons today: Miley Cyrus, Lena Dunham, rappers, trash literature like Gone Girl, breakneck-speed obnoxious computer-animated cartoons.
In THE BOUNTY, we see the stark difference between the elite commanders on the ship and the uncouth uneducated laboring crew:
The elites, steeped in the values of British Civilization, are resistant to the charms of the half-naked bare-breasted ho’s. They might feel a bit of Beavis-ish ‘boing’, but they keep it under wraps. They are upholders of civilization. In contrast, the poorly mannered and uneducated crew hands go totally Beavis-ish. They can easily go ‘native’ since they have little cultural capital; some of them are surely barely literate. And they have poor manners.
When Lee Kuan Yew and Nehru resisted British rule, they were still filled with admiration for the British as upholders of a great civilization whose themes were hard work and struggle for knowledge, progress, and power. So, the idea back then was, “if you want to catch up with the West, a lot of hard work and struggle and organization are necessary.” And the West maintained this aura because it still had high culture, serious intellectuals, popular culture that was mostly about adults and their problems(like the films of Jean Renoir and William Wyler), and etc. Even for leftists, to learn from the West meant reading Camus, Sartre, Kafka, Faulkner, Dostoevsky, Marx, and etc. It took time and effort. (Also, ban on immigration to the West incentivized the non-white natives to build their own nations than just dreaming of taking off to have a better life with white folks. Also, nationalism then prevalent around the world encouraged non-white national leaders to represent their own peoples… like Nasser did though not very well.)
But something changed, not only in the consumer USA but in Europe as well. The La Dolce Vita image of the West overtook everything, and the face of the West became that of mindless piggery, funnery, and immaturity. And blacks are more excessive and wanton at this than other races, Afro-jivery became the Face of the New West. What is the ‘values’ of the rapper? “I want everything at my feet cuz I feel like it, mothafu*a!” So, it doesn’t matter if Western Ideas are now accessible all over the world. The only message that is getting through is “You can get instant good stuff if you come to the West” and “Life is about demanding instant rights, not about struggling to make a better society.” Welfare State mentality has gone global. If every bum in the West has a ‘right’ to so many goodies and if ‘Western values’ are universal, then it follows that everyone in the world is deserving of these ‘rights of western values’ or ‘fruits of western values’. Indeed, what is often called ‘rights’ should really be called ‘fruits’. Or maybe Fruights… which will lead to Frights.
The funny thing is the class dynamics have changed in odd ways in the UK. In THE BOUNTY, the lower classes are more likely to give up their British identity and go with the natives out of Beavis-ish instincts. In contrast, Hopkins and his elite personnel do their best to keep the crew together as a part of British Civilization. The scene between Hopkins and Gibson is also interesting because British wit, the product of highly advanced literary culture, can easily undermine the very civilization that created it. After all, there is an element of irreverence in wit, and the winner in wit is not necessarily the serious or righteous but the clever and quick-witted. And Gibson’s replies to Hopkins are deadly effective. Wit always favors the cleverer, even when he is wrong. A witty Creationist will defeat a dull-witted evolutionist with all the facts on his side. (I’m not sure Trump style could be called witty but it had great appeal among the hoi polloi. A kind of Tritt?) Such culture of wit can only be the product of advanced civilization, and few cultures have sense of irony and subtlety as the Brits do. But in favoring the clever over the sober/serious, wit can actually undermine the glue that holds it all together. It can be the needle that pricks it full of holes and makes it bleed to death. Indeed, consider how Beatles and Stones combined wild hedonism with wit. They not only attacked but disarmed. The middle class businessman on the train should be left alone, but we left cheering for the Beatles cuz they are so fun. (Is rap witty? Or just hitty?) Grit is more valuable than Wit in the long run. Of course, if used correctly, wit and grit can work together, and that was one formula for the success of the British Empire. But at some point the grit part came to be disrespected: it’s like that girl in AN EDUCATION complaining that school is too ‘hard and boring’. (The girl is also quick-witted in countering the Emma Thompson character. Even though British society was hierarchical and expected the social inferiors to tip the hat and say ‘aye guvnor’, wit was universally valued and allowed, and this gave even social inferiors to get in some good hits at the superiors. It could be tolerated because it was subtle. That way, one could insult with smile, and both parties could pretend that nothing ill was said. Such use of wit by lower orders at higher orders was not allowed in Japan, which is why the fat Japanese doesn’t know how to deal with Bowie’s clever comeback.)
In THE BOUNTY, it is the elites who try to maintain the order while the others just wanna dance with the natives in Woodstock fashion. But today, it is the British elites who push the loss of British identity and culture, and it is the working class that is struggling for nation-hood and identity. The British elites still got their manners. They are not neo-savage. Look at Tony Blair and his ilk. Posh and fancy. But, they just see UK as just an island like Tahiti to be colonized by globalism.
The working class feels more nationalism, a desire to preserve Old Britain, but the problem is, being uncultured, they feel lost, and even many of those who fight the invasion have little cultural life other than pop culture of afro-jivery, Hollywood blockbusters, and vulgar-trash TV comedy.
Their crude populist nationalism can easily be derided and dismissed as ‘stupid’ because it doesn’t have the cachet of sophistication and erudition. It’s a strange world where the most sophisticated and erudite seek to flood their own nation with barbaric hordes, whereas the native barbarians(the working class) say NO to the foreign barbarians. For Britain to be saved, the hoi polloi cannot do it alone. It needs a new vanguard, a new elite to lead them because the existing one is a mere collaborator to the GLOB, even after Brexit.
But then, there are working class and lower-middle class Brit-twits who also welcome the invasion by foreign masses. Paradoxically, they find empowerment in their own disenfranchisement. In their real lives, they got little or nothing. But in their compassion and ’empathy’ for foreigners, they feel a sudden surge of significance, importance, and power. After all, compassion is always about the powerful feeling sorry for the powerless. PC says whites have power and privilege and must be nice to powerless and helpless non-whites. So, even whites with little or nothing suddenly like the people of power who are bestowing noblesse oblige on the poor darkies. It’s like what Derbyshire said: UK is about ‘good whites’ feeling superior to ‘bad whites’. In acting the role of ‘good white’, even the lowest British white loser can feel a surge of power and privilege because he believes himself to be in a lofty position to feel compassion for another people.
Never mind the foreigners are taking over entire city blocks and committing lots of crime. But then, PC has answers for that too. It says Diversity is ‘saving’ Europe that just needs more people as native are now childless. PC also attacks whites from two angles. If some newcomers are mired in crime and poverty, it must mean that whites are still ‘racist’ and not giving the immigrants a chance. So, UK is still a ‘racist’ society and so much more has to be done. But if some immigrants do BETTER than the native white British, it means that UK needs more of these good, decent, hardworking people because they are willing to work harder and succeed whereas the native white masses are just too fat, lazy, and dumb and only worth being used as sex slaves for criminal gangs.
And also in France, it is the relatively less educated working class that is nationalist and voting for LePen whereas the more educated and sophisticated are calling for the further Afro-Islamization of France. Those more steeped in Western culture and history are working to invite masses of people who will destroy Western Civilization(or just turn it into a museum piece), and those least steeped in Western arts and culture are doing their best to defend what is left of the West. Maybe high culture and/or elite power are innately anti-tribal since it’s about favoring the best anywhere than preserving what is OVER HERE. The positive side of this is universal meritocracy. But the negative side is that the link between the native elites and native masses is lost. The native elites will favor the ‘best’ anywhere than their own people here. No wonder European athletes are turning black. And according to economic theory, outsourcing jobs to China/India or bringing in cheap labor is preferable because lowest-cost labor is ‘best’ for profits or profitocracy.
And since native elites want to rub shoulders with the fancy and powerful, they want entry into the millionaire-billionaire club that is largely American, Jewish, and increasingly Chinese/Indian. British elites would rather cater to the rich in Qatar, just like Justin Trudeau would rather whore out to China/India that represent the native whites of Canada.
Incidentally, the working class in UK and France may be more awoke than whites in Canada because there is less space in Europe. It’s harder to get away from bad stuff. And Hindus and Chinese in Canada are not violent like Africans and Muslims. Even so, Canada will be something totally different if current trends continue.
Because of all these contradictions, it’s difficult to tell how it will all end.
One thing for sure, the West needs to drop the bridge metaphor and think in terms of the Castle.
A Castle needs a moat to keep the invasive armies at bay. It all comes down to Moat People vs Boat People. But then, Jewish globalists surely hate that metaphor. For Kafka in his famous novel, the Castle is the thing with too many gates, barriers, and walls.
It’s like some Wasp golf club. So, the entire West must be caddyshacked, even with Africans and Muslims, so that NO DOOR will remain shut to the Tribe. Of course, sometimes when the non-white hordes come barging in without knocking, they mistake the Tribal Door with the White Privilege Door, and the Tribe ends up with some lumps on its head.
Something “uncanny valley” about his face. Same with his Classics-deconstructing sister. He’s got this pallid, speckled, rubbery looking skin and slightly buggy eyes, that despite his warm enough smile, exhibit a kind of blankness. He looks ‘engaged’, yet there’s something missing.
It is indeed fitting that he be compared to blank, blanched busts of marble (if not the emperors they represent). Even so, I get more of an idea of underlying character from the statues (if accurate) than from actual photographs of Zuckerberg.
Will the real fake news,
Please stand up, please stand up!
So now we have fake news, fake fake news, and real fake news.
The fakestream media don't want to admit it yet (other than the NYT, which now forbids the phrase), but President Trump utterly and thoroughly appropriated the term "fake news" for our side now. Thanks to Trump, when people think "fake news" now, they think of mainstream media stories that are fraudulent or at best incorrect. Thank you, President Trump!Replies: @Clyde
Here a fake news.
There a fake news.
Everywhere a fake news.
The Donald had a farm.
E -I- E- I -O.
If Zuck is genuinely interested in being Potus, he should have a good hard look at the brilliantly successful campaigns of some of his ideological soul mates in 2016: Lindsay Graham, Jeb Bush & Michael Bloomberg.
378 AD, Emperor Valens killed by immigrants.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Adrianople
the Goths, led by Alavivus and Fritigern, asked to be allowed to settle in the Eastern Roman Empire. Hoping that they would become farmers and soldiers, the Eastern Roman emperor Valens allowed them to establish themselves in the Empire as allies (foederati). However, once across the Danube (and in Roman territory), the dishonesty of the provincial commanders Lupicinus and Maximus led the newcomers to revolt after suffering many hardships.
Yeah, no contest. In fact I remember there were a lot of people commenting on an interview Eisenberg and Justin Timberlake did together to promote the movie, saying how surprised they were to find Eisenberg more attractive than JT. Timberlake seemed to be trying a little too hard to sound like an experienced actor, which didn’t help.
I’ve actually thought about who the Democratic Party could run that could do some similar things to what Trump accomplished in the past election.
The guy I came up with is Steve Harvey. Well if you want to go black. If you go white, I’d say Tom Hanks (is he liberal?).
The key for both of them would be to just let all the crap and flying monkeys from whoever’s ass just fly by and not give a sh*t. Easier said than done though, but Trump proved it possible, and it may be the key trait in the next few elections.
Both of those guys could basically just play the public persona they have already developed and be a serious threat in a campaign. Of course both of them would have to ask themselves the question “Uh what if I actually won? Do I really want that job?”
The neat thing about it is, guys like this have already shown the ability to live under scrutiny and the camera eye that would drive most of us nuts or to a breakdown (Charlie Sheen style).
If you can cope with endless papparazzi who want to catch a photo of you taking a dump in the can, well you are halfway to the presidency in this age of … tarnish.
Hollywood Jews have already been promoting him for this.
All part and parcel of the capitalist system. Sometimes you succeed, other times you fail.Replies: @Steve Sailer
The future is unwritten.
I wonder how much “Hate Hoax” stacks up against “Noble Lie” and “Pious Fraud”. Yes, there is a Munchausen Syndrome element in many alleged hate crimes, but that’s not all that’s going on here.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noble_lie
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pious_fraud
C’mon, people. The Democrats need a celebrity-billionaire-media mogul-woman-black as their answer to Trump. Someone who oozes concern the way Mr. Trump oozes whatever the heck it is that he oozes.
Oprah!
It is indeed fitting that he be compared to blank, blanched busts of marble (if not the emperors they represent). Even so, I get more of an idea of underlying character from the statues (if accurate) than from actual photographs of Zuckerberg.Replies: @Steve Sailer
There are thousands of nerdy conquer-the-world board game playing kids. One happens on an idea that makes him a billionaire and suddenly it’s proof he’s a strategic genius? Ha, ha.
I suspect he could be a real contender in a presidential election, but what billionaire with a lot of name recognition and a decent ethical reputation couldn’t be nowadays?
What’s wrong with just remaining what he currently is? (Life coach and social guru.)
This reminds me of the Bloomberg for President speculation from earlier last year.
From Twitter – “zuckerberg’s vision: mulatto underclass clicking sponsored content all day; ruled over by autistic jew-asian elite. soylent only legal food”.
https://twitter.com/menaquinone4/status/671911613285429248
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7J2qVudhsM8
I cannot think of any possible presidential candidate I would not prefer to Suckerberg.
One problem is that the alt right anti-semites don't understand Christianity particularly well so they aren't familiar with the great deal of linkages between the old and New Testament. The idea that the seminal formulatoe of Christianity, Paul, wasn't influence by "Judiac" (I love the creativity you guys go to in order to find synonyms for Jewish) values is absurd. The Christians that founded this country certainly saw the similarities.Replies: @Chase, @Kyle McKenna, @The most deplorable one, @Dumbo, @Mr. Anon, @Mr. Anon
The argument is not that there aren’t linkages between the Old Testament and the New, it’s that Jews today are far more influenced by the Talmud than the Old Testament.
I’m not familiar enough with the innner workings of these arguments and how they affect viewpoints, but that’s the basic thesis.
yes – it’s all very end-of-republic-ish with the oligarchs realizing politics is corrupted enough they don’t need puppet-politicians any more – they can do it themselves
Why not President of an independent California?
https://twitter.com/menaquinone4/status/671911613285429248Replies: @anon
yes, social media equivalent of banking mafia wanting an underclass on rollover payday loans
Indeed. Say what you will about Haven Monahan, the guy was a total stud.
The movie Social Network worked on me. I did not know anything about FB and MZ before watching it. But after seeing it I made up my mind that MZ is repulsive both physically (the actor and later I looked up MZ picts) and more importantly because of his character.
He was using people and screwing them big time (two WASPs and later his Jewish friend and partner). The two WASP brothers were presented very unsympathetically, so my Texan of Czech origin and Catholic friend who grew up thinking that damn Yankee is one word did not like them and was happy seeing them screwed by MZ (this is how a multi-ethnic society divides us by creating grievances). I kind of cooled off on my relationship with the Texan (a professor of physics btw) after that.
For me MZ is an exemplar of one of the lowest forms of life. But for most people in the US the success and big money can justify almost anything. He is not the problem. There are always sociopaths and scum. But the Americans who look up to him and admire him and envy him are the real problem and the indication that we are doomed.
One problem is that the alt right anti-semites don't understand Christianity particularly well so they aren't familiar with the great deal of linkages between the old and New Testament. The idea that the seminal formulatoe of Christianity, Paul, wasn't influence by "Judiac" (I love the creativity you guys go to in order to find synonyms for Jewish) values is absurd. The Christians that founded this country certainly saw the similarities.Replies: @Chase, @Kyle McKenna, @The most deplorable one, @Dumbo, @Mr. Anon, @Mr. Anon
The theology attributed to Jesus Christ, specifically as enunciated in his Sermon on the Mount, is as thoroughgoing a renunciation of Judaism as may be imagined. The Antitheses alone seal that deal.
Sure, Hebraics and fellow-travellers such as yourself do like to claim linkages, and sully the distinctions; and of course the politics and accretions of two intervening millennia help to cloud the issue. About that, though, La Rochefoucauld put it best: “Hypocrisy is the tribute vice pays to virtue.”
Read the rest of the chapter, for God's sake.
"Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven."
Matthew 5:17-20
The Beatitudes are Matthew 5:1-11Replies: @Kyle McKenna
I could see him easily winning governor of CA but not a chance in hell could he be president. Suffers from the same problem as Bloomberg, a Jew that is culturally ignorant of America’s core. Even if he recognized this he wouldn’t be able to fake it.
You don't think Blacks would come out in record numbers to vote for Mark Zuckerberg like they did for Barack Hussein Obama and Bill Clinton?Replies: @International Jew
His Mandarin is okay, I guess. Feels recited and awkward with a terrible accent.
That’s not saying much.
It’ll be fun to watch Zuck go down in flames, though.
“They trusted me – dumb fucks” will make a great campaign slogan.
Yeah, why don’t the moldbug cultists say we’re a “post-Judeo-Christian” country, that leftism is “post-Judeo-Christian,” etc? Oh, yeah, I (((forgot))).
Liking Game of Thrones? As does every teenager.
Enjoying RISK? Does he not understand that the basic strategy of RISK is to build a wall against any choke-point between your territory and the enemy territory? It a game so devoid of skill I am amazed someone would mention it. Plus...wall-building...ugh!!
His Facebook "empire" boasts so many users because it requires no monetary outlay by the people stupid enough to use it. Anything "free" will always get the maximum number of users.
Whatever money Facebook does generate is built on a peculiar interpretation of intellectual property law: that, somehow, Facebook owns the personal data about you. How difficult would it be to crumble this "empire" with a stroke of a pen, like with a "right to be forgotten" law? Maybe that is why he is so worried about China. China can simply block Facebook from it's IP (internet protocol) space. We need to go to war with China so that China can't prevent Facebook from propagandizing Chinese citizens.
Knowing Mandarin? Why? The Chinese leadership speaks English. Is he fooling them into thinking that he is not white?
The Classics? Great...every kid has read Edith Hamilton.
And, of course, the last paragraph of Zuck demanding immigration when robots are going to take all the jobs is classic realtalk.
I wonder if Zuck has checked to make sure that his wealth has not been surreptitiously transferred to his wife's name?Replies: @Opinionator
The Classics? Great…every kid has read Edith Hamilton.
I didn’t. Any good?
One problem is that the alt right anti-semites don't understand Christianity particularly well so they aren't familiar with the great deal of linkages between the old and New Testament. The idea that the seminal formulatoe of Christianity, Paul, wasn't influence by "Judiac" (I love the creativity you guys go to in order to find synonyms for Jewish) values is absurd. The Christians that founded this country certainly saw the similarities.Replies: @Chase, @Kyle McKenna, @The most deplorable one, @Dumbo, @Mr. Anon, @Mr. Anon
Wait. I am confused. Don’t those people who practice Judaism (perhaps the word from which Judaic was derived) reject Jesus Christ as a heretic? Surely they also reject the notion of Christianity being in anyway similar to Judaism.
Should we also refer to Judeo-Islamism on the basis that some historians suggest that Islam started out as a Judaizing Christian sect?
The guy I came up with is Steve Harvey. Well if you want to go black. If you go white, I'd say Tom Hanks (is he liberal?).
The key for both of them would be to just let all the crap and flying monkeys from whoever's ass just fly by and not give a sh*t. Easier said than done though, but Trump proved it possible, and it may be the key trait in the next few elections.
Both of those guys could basically just play the public persona they have already developed and be a serious threat in a campaign. Of course both of them would have to ask themselves the question "Uh what if I actually won? Do I really want that job?"
The neat thing about it is, guys like this have already shown the ability to live under scrutiny and the camera eye that would drive most of us nuts or to a breakdown (Charlie Sheen style).
If you can cope with endless papparazzi who want to catch a photo of you taking a dump in the can, well you are halfway to the presidency in this age of ... tarnish.Replies: @Opinionator, @Desiderius
If you go white, I’d say Tom Hanks (is he liberal?).
Hollywood Jews have already been promoting him for this.
Amazing that he was able to learn a language, especially one as difficult as Chinese, in a short period of time while having significant other responsibilities.
Sure we did.
Can someone explain the snark or dry humor or sarcasm behind this remark by Steve?
The guy I came up with is Steve Harvey. Well if you want to go black. If you go white, I'd say Tom Hanks (is he liberal?).
The key for both of them would be to just let all the crap and flying monkeys from whoever's ass just fly by and not give a sh*t. Easier said than done though, but Trump proved it possible, and it may be the key trait in the next few elections.
Both of those guys could basically just play the public persona they have already developed and be a serious threat in a campaign. Of course both of them would have to ask themselves the question "Uh what if I actually won? Do I really want that job?"
The neat thing about it is, guys like this have already shown the ability to live under scrutiny and the camera eye that would drive most of us nuts or to a breakdown (Charlie Sheen style).
If you can cope with endless papparazzi who want to catch a photo of you taking a dump in the can, well you are halfway to the presidency in this age of ... tarnish.Replies: @Opinionator, @Desiderius
He just met with Trump. Smart move, for both of them.
Steve is subtly implying that Zuck would have a much better chance of becoming the emperor of an empire than the president of a republic. This post is as much about the future of our political arrangements as it is about Zuck himself.
Scary and discouraging.Replies: @anon
Bullshit on stilts.
Read the rest of the chapter, for God’s sake.
“Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven.”
Matthew 5:17-20
The Beatitudes are Matthew 5:1-11
I sure haven’t done that.
Joe Biden was the dumbest guy in the room at his garbage law school and at the bar exam testing center when he failed to pass.
Zuckerberg was the 1600 SAT smartest guy in the room among harvard computer science majors and silicon valley entrepreneurs.
For those sanguine about zuckbergers ambitions I hope you remember Voltaire's prayer. Because people like joe Biden are ridiculous while mark zuckerberg, whatever you think of him, is not ridiculous. He's a killer.
Can someone explain the snark or dry humor or sarcasm behind this remark by Steve?Replies: @Desiderius
We didn’t learn anything of the sort. The usual fake news.
“I could see him easily winning governor of CA but not a chance in hell could he be president.”
You don’t think Blacks would come out in record numbers to vote for Mark Zuckerberg like they did for Barack Hussein Obama and Bill Clinton?
I pissed off some Bernie fans by suggesting that his problem was that blacks hate Jews.Replies: @Kyle McKenna
“Indeed. Say what you will about Haven Monahan, the guy was a total stud.”
Haven Monahan is hideous by blond male standards where the bar is set extremely high. He is no Chris Farley that’s for damn sure.
Hillary has a super smug resting bitch face and she could easily have been president. Obama likewise has a super smug face. Other than Biden is there a D politician whose main disposition isn’t one of complete smugness? A smug sense of knowing better than all the ignorant racists who do the hard work of making the country run is the main platform of the Democratic Party.
Interesting observation.
Scary and discouraging.
(except this time with nukes)
Republicans adopted fake fake-news to deflect fake news, and Democrats adopted fake news to deflect the entire internet, really, though according to them mostly the Dying Hillary Saga and Pizzagate. So what’s the argument here? “We got there first?”
Read his open letter to his baby. Actually don’t if you’ve eaten recently. Phony, arrogant, holier than thou, and dripping with self-righteousness. The guy is the epitome of a Bay Area liberal know-it-all parent who will raise a really shitty, narcissistic kid.
He was using people and screwing them big time (two WASPs and later his Jewish friend and partner). The two WASP brothers were presented very unsympathetically, so my Texan of Czech origin and Catholic friend who grew up thinking that damn Yankee is one word did not like them and was happy seeing them screwed by MZ (this is how a multi-ethnic society divides us by creating grievances). I kind of cooled off on my relationship with the Texan (a professor of physics btw) after that.
For me MZ is an exemplar of one of the lowest forms of life. But for most people in the US the success and big money can justify almost anything. He is not the problem. There are always sociopaths and scum. But the Americans who look up to him and admire him and envy him are the real problem and the indication that we are doomed.Replies: @James Kabala
My understanding is that the movie takes a lot of poetic license, often based on fact but exaggerated to make Zuckerberg look worse. (E.g., the real Zuckerberg wrote a single sentence on his college blog calling someone a bitch – immature, to be sure, but not evil. In the movie this is just the first sentence of a creepy and disturbing paragraph-long rant that is apparently entirely fictitious.)
Whenever anybody brings up Judeo-Christian values–which in real life is never–I always pivot to Judeo-Muslim values. Judeos and Christians don’t care for it. (I haven’t got feedback from Muslims.)
“Impossible. Cuckerberg has the charisma of a wet hen.”
Mark Zuckerberg did a video with Morgan Freeman to show off a more Human side to him and he still came off as extremely robotic & stiff. Mark Zuckerberg is Crooked Cankles with a penis.
Assuming that Mark Zuckerberg wishes to become an emperor, I hope he is aware of how the Western Roman Empire ended: barbarian invasion facilitated by internal division. I sometimes marvel at the hold that the Roman Empire has over the Western mind centuries after it ended. Personally, if the U.S. is to become an empire (arguably it is already) I think that we should look at the Austro-Hungarian Empire, or even the Holy Roman Empire as a model, not the Western Roman Empire.
Yeah. And those are discouraging enough to contemplate, as the end game of our once-great republic. 1914, not such a great year for the Dual Monarchy. Fortunately for Progressives, they have their bespoke version of history, so it's all good.Replies: @Hibernian
Except that the Talmud is an elaboration of the Bible (specifically, of Exodus 20 thru the end of Deuteronomy). Thus saying Judaism is more a product of the Talmud than of the Bible is like saying the US is more a product of Supreme Court decisions than of the Constitution.
Your analogy holds better than you might like, although most Jews are actually Orthodox, who seem to stick closer to Torah.Replies: @ben tillman
Eisenberg was good as an asshole in The Squid and the Whale, too. Though that is the type of movie I usually hate.
He was nicer in Roger Dodger, which is another movie I inexplicably like.
Or, to put it another way, when friends I've recommended it to don't enjoy it I realize I don't want to argue with them over its aesthetic merits. You either find Jeff Daniels amazing performance hilarious or you don't.
Except that the Talmud is an elaboration of the Bible (specifically, of Exodus 20 thru the end of Deuteronomy). Thus saying Judaism is more a product of the Talmud than of the Bible is like saying the US is more a product of Supreme Court decisions than of the Constitution.
And there would be a lot of truth to that.
In any case, the analogy is a poor one and you also commit the fallacy of equivocation (“product of”).
You don't think Blacks would come out in record numbers to vote for Mark Zuckerberg like they did for Barack Hussein Obama and Bill Clinton?Replies: @International Jew
Haha, yep, a brainy Jew-boy like that is not going to bring out the black vote in the numbers it would take to win. He’d do even worse than Cankles, who let us remember defeated the Jewish Bernie Sanders only thanks to the black vote.
I pissed off some Bernie fans by suggesting that his problem was that blacks hate Jews.
Hillary was a world-class panderer, and that's a language that speaks to them.
If you’re talking SCOTUS decisions post-1937, then your simile is an utter failure. Because I don’t know what jurisprudence bases itself on anymore (coin flips? Ouija boards? instructions from the Comintern?), but it isn’t the Constitution.
Zuck’s resemblance, such as it is, to the Romans’ masculine ideal, meh, big deal. Zuck’s a healthy young guy with a solid neck, and as a Jew he is of Mediterranean “stock”, same as the Romans. In fact Ashkenazi Jews are, genetically, about 50% Italian (and 50% middle eastern of course).
Caligula was probably not that good looking. He was seriously crazy — a psychopath really — and without going overboard on phrenology or anything like that, it is nonetheless the case that crazy people look the part somewhat.
The study that convenient assertion is based on has not been replicated, has it.Replies: @syonredux
Read the rest of the chapter, for God's sake.
"Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven."
Matthew 5:17-20
The Beatitudes are Matthew 5:1-11Replies: @Kyle McKenna
Since you missed it:
No matter how much politicking took place then, now, or anytime in between, the Antitheses coule not be more clear; and no more thorough a renunciation of judaism may be imagined.
Good demo of La Rochefoucauld though!
See Romans for a useful synopsis; it's the intellectual heart of the scripture.Replies: @Kyle McKenna
Please skip this long comment if you don’t care about the nitty gritty of pretending to learn a foreign language …. I used to have lots of friends who went through the military language school at Monterey. An average smart NCO could become proficient in Spanish in 6 months, French in 9, Russian in 18 months, and Chinese in 2 years (working at it in typical 40 to 50 hour military workweeks). Officers would not have done any better, but they did not usually take the courses. Anyway, if you are the sort of person who can figure out the whole Chinese tone thing fairly quickly – like, say, David Crosby who figured out dozens of alternate guitar string tunings in a one year period 20 years into his guitar playing – communication in Chinese is about as easy as Spanish. Anyway, Chinese is much closer to Spanish in ease of getting to a general level of basic communication (think slightly better than Manuel in Fawlty Towers, which is about where most people who say they can speak Chinese are) than some of the real tough distant and obscure languages – Vietnamese, Navajo, Latin, for example (I have studied Latin for decades and only recently realized that I had no idea how Etruscan it is. Time to work harder!) Real fluency in most languages is pretty much unavailable to those not willing to live in a foreign country for 2 or 3 years minimum – not counting the people with an autistic level of fanaticism, the only people who seem to be (and may be – this is nearly impossible to judge) exceptions are people who work hard on a bag of tricks (for example, I used to seem fluent enough in Russian that Russians thought I must have grown up in a Slavic country, after a couple months in Moscow . But I was nowhere near to being close to being fluent in Russian. I was just going to a prepared menu of a few hundred default Slavic mistakes rather than to my natural default English mistakes – that was the trick). I know people who started learning English at age 5 who still make mistakes at the age of 40 or 50 – “deers” for deer, “big Mexican hat” for sombrero, that sort of minor thing (not to mention they generally miss all the times we Americans are specifically quoting – when someone says “spread out” in a slow disparaging way, he – and it is almost always a he – is quoting the Three Stooges. Not one in a hundred foreigners with near perfect English have any idea about that.) Stoppard did a cool routine on this in Arcadia – apparently the most highly awarded Hellenist in England in Housman’s day was fundamentally unsound on the difference between the long and short vowels a and u and i (the e’s and the o’s are spelled differently in ancient Greek depending on the length, the a’s and the u’s and the i’s have to be learned without the help of the orthography – everyone gets most of the e’s and o’s right, the a’s and u’s and i’s, not so much); and the young Housman, who expected people to be as smart as himself, was disappointed. His disappointment in the top one percent of the one percent of one percent of English Hellenists (the Regius professor type of guy) echoed his disappointments in love (hence the ironic – and, to tell the truth, I am not even sure I am using the word ironic correctly, even after five decades of using the word every once in a while) – use of the word Arcadia in the title.
How many Hellenist were there in England?
(1/100)*(1/100)*(1/100)*N≥1 ---> N≥1,000,000 = 1 milion Helenist?Replies: @middle aged vet !!!
LOL you and that blond thing again 😉
I pissed off some Bernie fans by suggesting that his problem was that blacks hate Jews.Replies: @Kyle McKenna
98% of blacks not be woke bout dem joos.
Hillary was a world-class panderer, and that’s a language that speaks to them.
HOLY SHIT THAT’S JUST WRONG STEVE
In fact Ashkenazi Jews are, genetically, about 50% Italian (and 50% middle eastern of course.
The study that convenient assertion is based on has not been replicated, has it.
Read it. Thanks
Schindler is reasonably well connected and knows some stuff. It will be interesting to see how the “7th floor at Langley” starts behaving on January 21 and when the new CIA director comes in.
The CIA’s first attempt at an attack on Trump blew up in their faces. I’ve noticed Trump has filled graveyards with people who underestimated him.
i imagine he'll use that to clear house
This came up on another thread: Physiognomy Is Real. (My device doesn’t recognize the word “physiognomy,” by the way.) Physiognomy is not phrenology.
Hilarious!
https://heartiste.wordpress.com/2016/09/22/is-zuckerberg-getting-cuckerberged/
He is not a leader of men, he is a leader of geeky programmers and H1-B visa recipients.
She hitched her wagon to a fa$t hor$e, but not a natural stallion.
Caligula went nuts after a serious illness or poisoning, so he might well have been normal before that, physically and mentally.
Though the argument Schindler presented in his latest column is exceptionally lame.
Eg:
http://observer.com/2017/01/donald-trump-press-conference-prague-michael-cohen/
…And then, a few paragraphs later:
So it’s critically important that Cohen prove he wasn’t in Prague, but then again it’s not. It sounds like Schindler was leaked the report, bought it hook, line, and sinker, saw it blow up in his face, but still can’t quite let go of it. Now (he goes on to argue) the fact that the report is false is evidence that the Russians planted it to conceal even darker compromising material.
Interesting that he does look so much like an ancient Roman statue. Ashkenazi Jews are about half Italian. This is total ignorant speculation that experts in the field could confirm or more likely refute, but suppose the Jews are half descended from Italians who were more similar to old Roman stock than modern Italian are. It’s my understanding that the original Roman stock mostly died out, replace by slaves, immigrants, and conquerors. Maybe that process wasn’t complete when some Jews took their Italian wives north into Germany and became Ashkenazim.
I wonder if Donna Zuckerberg will wind up being a Billy Carter-like detriment to a hypothetical Zuck campaign. My guess is that having a SJW sister who goes on about “toxic masculinity” would not be an asset to a campaign that headlines a billionaire computer geek trying to carry Wisconsin and Pennsylvania.
“His disappointment in the top one percent of the one percent of one percent of English Hellenists ”
How many Hellenist were there in England?
(1/100)*(1/100)*(1/100)*N≥1 —> N≥1,000,000 = 1 milion Helenist?
The study that convenient assertion is based on has not been replicated, has it.Replies: @syonredux
It looks pretty solid:
https://westhunt.wordpress.com/2014/06/24/ashkenazi-ancestry/
https://westhunt.wordpress.com/2016/07/20/even-more-on-ashkenazi-ancestry/
On a lighter note the 'Colombo' actor, Peter Falk, was an Ashkenazi originating from Hungary, yet he was so utterly convincing at playing an Italian that most Italians swore that he was 'one if theirs'.Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Steve Sailer, @Anonymous, @Glossy
Well, unfortunately it is.
Your analogy holds better than you might like, although most Jews are actually Orthodox, who seem to stick closer to Torah.
That’s not surprising for someone who declared themselves fluent a year after starting.
And that reminds me of this scariest quote of the article because his friend probably believes it and so might he
The chances that had Zuck struck up a non-profit in lieu of Facebook, that it would today be the world’s largest is virtually nil. There’s a universal, almost intractable tendency to underestimate the dominant role of luck in our lives, particularly where it concerns positive achievement. And people who achieve vast success early in life are the most likely to misattribute their conquests to pure skill, with a potential consequence being the tendency, even among the very bright and talented, to severely overestimate’s their ability to shape the world to their will.
I didn't. Any good?Replies: @map
Her book, Mythology, is excellent.
Agreed about Troy — it really was pretty good.
Unless I missed it, the dog that didn’t bark in that article was Sheryl Sandberg’s presidential ambitions. Allegedly, she was slated to be President Hillary’s Treasury Secretary.
Regarding the Aeneid, Sir Tim Rice is likely a fan too:
Or, as Che Guevara sings in Evita: “So famous, so easily, so soon, is not the wisest thing to be!”
My suspicion is that southern Italians and Ashkenazi Jews always instinctively knew that some sort of genetic relation existed between them – something which cannot be said for northern European populations.
On a lighter note the ‘Colombo’ actor, Peter Falk, was an Ashkenazi originating from Hungary, yet he was so utterly convincing at playing an Italian that most Italians swore that he was ‘one if theirs’.
This was something forced uupon him by Hitler as the price of military support.
Like most pragmatic Italians, Mussolini never subscribed to the notion of racial hierarchies, particular of the dogmatic, Austrian bombastic square headed sort. In fact prior to the war, tghe originator of fascism was neutral, if not well disposed toward Jews.Replies: @Dan Hayes
There was a lot of selection after the admixture event, probably two thousand years of it, so we're not what you'd get if you crossed, say, a modern Lebanese person with a modern Italian one. I always assumed that we're part European, but if you asked me a few years ago where the Euro portion came from, I'd have said "probably from all over".
It would be very interesting to find out what part of Italy it is. According to geneticists Italy has a lot of "structure", meaning that the genetic differences between its regions are large and very old. I guess the Ashkenazi founding stock would have come to the city of Rome, as merchants or prisoners of war after one of the Judean revolts. And Rome would have been a melting pot, not just of Italy, but of the whole Empire. So maybe the Euro side of our ancestry is a mixture of various Italian regions, with bits from the rest of the Med thrown in.Replies: @syonredux
Bob Guccione’s Caligula – the film which Hollywood tried to forget and Gore Vidal fought to disown.
Symptomatic of the ravaged state of cinema in the late ’70s – and perhaps a flicker of the much ballyhooed ‘convergence’ of mainstream film and porno which some loose mouthed and loose brained ‘pundits’ talked up after the ‘Deep Throat’ phenomenon and general collapse of cinema following the TV revolution.
Interesting in a historical sense – 1970s decadence, not Roman – in that we see such luminaries as Sir John Gielgud, Dame Helen Mirren, Peter O’Toole etc sharing the set with multiple, explicit acts of depravity and debauchery.
Unthinkable that such like could ever be repeated today, but that was the general air of decadence and decay of mainstream 1970s.
What contributes more to the advancement of a people?
Someone who organizes and moderates an open-minded reality-based asynchronous telecommunication network that promotes consideration of emergent facts, however forbidden by or challenging to the Established powerful, and invites in, for free, countless thousands of far-flung intelligent people of all temperaments, inclinations, beliefs, politics, races, and walks of life to test and improve and apply their thinking, and take those strengthened ideas into the world?
Or someone who invents a gadget that monetarizes Anthony Weiner showing the world his schlong?
On a lighter note the 'Colombo' actor, Peter Falk, was an Ashkenazi originating from Hungary, yet he was so utterly convincing at playing an Italian that most Italians swore that he was 'one if theirs'.Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Steve Sailer, @Anonymous, @Glossy
Falk, Turturro, Keitel, Giamatti, Edward G. Robinson — the category of actors who can play Italians and Jews equally well is a good one. You can contrast it with the category of actors who largely stayed within their own ethnicity, like Joe Pesci and Woody Allen.
He's Italian but Woody just assumed he was Jewish. Didn't even occur to him he might not be (Biggs didn't try to trick him or anything).
Joe Pesci played a Jew in The Public Eye, The Super, and the Lethal Weapon films.
1. In my opinion America reached peak Judeophilia around 2008 when Joel Stein was ‘never so upset by a poll’ in his life – the one that showed only 22% of Americans believed Jews run Hollywood. And there is good reason to believe that even that drop, from 50% in 1964, was more because of superfical morality signalling surrounding crimethink than because of actual changing opinion about Jews: certainly, for all his in-laws and his sometimes-coziness with Israel, Trump seemed to tap into a lot of latent American skepticism about Jews, though a lot of the high visibility given items like his ‘America first’ rhetoric was due to the predictably hyperbolic response from their media.
Long story short, I’m not convinced America will ever be ready for a Jewish president.
2. Forgive me, Steve, but you have occasionally been a mistaken judge of character in the past. I remember way back when you were putting a fair bit of stock in Jeb and in George P. Bush merely for being Hispandering and Hispanic, respectively. But it turns out that those essentially credentialist aspects of a man can be very superficial, and not at all representative of what he really is, as we learned all too well with Jeb over the last two years. No one at Heartiste is very impressed with Zuck. True, it’s ferociously anti-Semitic over there, but they are reasonably good judges of character.
Who did Jews vote for on Nov. 8?
Was it the Jew with no Jewish grandchildren, the shiksa with all Jewish grandchildren, or the alpha male goy with Jewish grandchildren?
Bilton has been better/more cynical on Twitter and Jack Dorsey. Then again, Facebook’s market cap is 30x Twitter’s.
The donor class liked Corey Booker initially because they saw him as a potential first black POTUS. But they’re probably savvy enough to realize now that the lag time between a 1st black elected leader of a mostly non-black political unit and the 2nd one can be a forever. Los Angeles, New York City, and Virginia haven’t elected another black leader since Tom Bradley, David Dinkins, and Doug Wilder.
I suspect he could be a real contender in a presidential election, but what billionaire with a lot of name recognition and a decent ethical reputation couldn't be nowadays?Replies: @Dave Pinsen
Having the idea for a social network doesn’t make him a strategic genius — Friendster and MySpace preceded Facebook. Turning his social network into the 7th largest company in America by market cap (between Exxon and J&J) makes him a strategic genius.
The point of my Thiel quote was that to a certain extent Facebook was a success on its own terms and not because it was dragged into success. There's an element of chance there, too, and a company like Facebook is better at doing what it does the larger it is. Like the man outrunning the bear, it only had to outrun its competitors.
Trump couldn't necessarily have won in any year, but he recognized the situation (HRC, immigration, Muslims and terrorism, Mexicans and jobs, etc) and took advantage of it. Is Zuck savvy in the same way? I doubt it.
Lady Gaga is one in this cohort. I saw her interviewed on TV about the presidential election. Let's just say that being in the top 1% as a youth didn't allow her to transfer her musical talents into political insight.
If Zuck's sister's foray into alt right research is any indication, Zuck doesn't have anything like the political intuition of Bill Clinton. And let's face it, Obama would have had no chance if he were white. Bill Clinton is still the model for successful Dems into the next two election cycles.Replies: @Dave Pinsen
Facebook\Zuckerberg had at least an order of magnitude more "networking effect" at it's back then Microsoft\Gates did with DOS\Windows or Google has in search\ads.
Zuckerberg had the advantage of starting out with the college--elite college--crowd on board, the demo you actually had to get to make the thing *matter* and rolled out in the environment where the hardware\network capability really made it possible for "social networking" to take off in a big way. And Facebook actually looked pretty unimpressive at several turns like figuring out mobile. It's just that it's got pretty much the most extreme network effect imaginable so even bumbling around for a while it could make it work.
Give me say a Ford CEO who rolls out multiple lines of cars that sell across all the worlds market and reorganizes operations to say double per car profit ... i'd be impressed by that guy, that would be really hard. Zuckerberg--smart guy, got the right app started in the right environment (Harvard) at the right moment, and then managed to successfully ride the deluge of the world signing up. But "strategic genius"? I haven't seen it.
On a lighter note the 'Colombo' actor, Peter Falk, was an Ashkenazi originating from Hungary, yet he was so utterly convincing at playing an Italian that most Italians swore that he was 'one if theirs'.Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Steve Sailer, @Anonymous, @Glossy
The big three non-WASP ethnicities from Eastern cities are Irish, Italians, and Jews. Here’s a question I haven’t thought about much before: what’s the most common second ethnicity for a single-ethnicity actor to play?
I’m guessing that Italians and Jews play each other quite a bit. But what about Italians and Irish? There are probably a lot of Italians and Irish who went to parochial school with each other so actors who went to Catholic school know each other’s inflections from daily experience. Are there Irish American actors who regularly play Italian Americans and vice-versa?
For example, I went to school with a lot of Italians and Irish. None of them became stars. The closest I know of was that the 6’7″ center on the Notre Dame HS basketball team when I was a freshman was Dan Selleck. When a Magnum PI became a hit a few years later, I used to tell my friends that Tom Selleck was obviously the older brother of Dan Selleck, who had been three years ahead of us. They didn’t believe me. But I was right. (On the other hand, looking Tom Selleck up on Wikipedia, he appears to be more English than Irish, so forget I ever brought the Selleck family up.)
When I went to research this, however, I found that there aren’t that many mostly Irish-American movie stars. A whole bunch of people are part Irish. My guess would be that a large fraction of male movie stars in American history have been part Irish. Tom Cruise, for example, is a mixture of Irish, English, and German.
On the other hand, all-Irish actors born in America are increasingly rare. Bill Murray is all Irish. Chris Evans (Captain America) is *25% German, *25% Irish, *25% Italian, *25% mix of Welsh, English, and Scottish.
In contrast, all-Italian actors are by no means unknown, even today. For example, De Niro is pretty much pan-Western European by ancestry (he looks rather like a handsomer version of my Swiss-American father, and a weighted average of his geographic ancestry might wind up in Switzerland), but Pacino is pure Sicilian by ancestry. Stanley Tucci, to pick a somewhat younger actor, is pure Calabrian. Mark Ruffalo, a few years younger than Tucci, is 3/4ths Italian.
For example, Bradley Cooper is half Irish half Italian. He appears in a lot of movies written and directed by David O. Russell, who is half Italian and half Jewish, usually playing an Italian. But in a Clint Eastwood movie, American Sniper, he was really good playing Chris Kyle.
Wikipedia is really helpful at providing ancestral backgrounds on movie stars. Usually the first paragraph after the opening summary will tell you explicitly or implicitly about the star’s mother’s and father’s genealogy. So, this research project is quite doable, so if you feel like doing all the hard work for me, I’d probably write it up and mention your name (note the “probably” in that sentence).
In the pre Brando days it was simple, a generic Wasp type of male lead basically prevailed. By Wasp I don't strictly mean British ancestry, but a certain big, square jawed,'rugged' north European type - this included many Germans or part Germans, and even such Ashkenazi as Kirk Douglas, who no doubt has much Russian ancestry.
Brando, of course, changed it all, but contrary to popular belief Brando was neither Pole nor Italian but French Canadian - with that ubiquitous Irish thrown in.
Perhaps Ernest Borgnine was a successful Italianate crossover into Waspdom, somehow capturing generic 'Americaness'. But all said, the transition of notably 'ethnic' type actors into anything resembling lead roles is a relative recent phenomenon echoing societal change.Replies: @syonredux
They seem to have assimilated both culturally and genetically.
Hollywood LOVES ethnic Irish-American movies set in some Boston or maybe new york enclave but that strikes me as false. or, rather, they may be talking about someone of my grandparents generation and pretending its not the boring story of them not really caring who their kids and grandkids married.
As you've said, liberal Hollywood actually thinks genetic destiny and real authentic ethnic culture is awesome. Even if we don't have it.Replies: @Altai
Conan O'Brien has said that he's 100% Irish.
http://ethnicelebs.com/
Even actors who are 50/50 Irish and Italian mixes tend to specialize in playing only one half of their ancestry. Cf, for example, John Travolta and David Caruso:http://ethnicelebs.com/john-travoltahttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Caruso
Travolta specializes in Italian-American parts, whereas Caruso plays Irish-American.Physiognomy as destiny, perhaps? Caruso is extremely Irish looking.....
There is not a lot of phenotype overlap between the Irish and the Italians. The light Bill O'Reilly types and the blond Denis Leary types vastly outnumber the darker Colin Farrell types in the Irish world.
How come Steve’s not posted the picture of our envisaged future, as the Emperor strides towards his place at the head of his citizen army?
Chicago is full of Irish people who think they’re Italian and Italians who think they’re Hispanic.
> Personally, if the U.S. is to become an empire (arguably it is already) I think that we should look at the Austro-Hungarian Empire, or even the Holy Roman Empire as a model, not the Western Roman Empire.
Yeah. And those are discouraging enough to contemplate, as the end game of our once-great republic. 1914, not such a great year for the Dual Monarchy. Fortunately for Progressives, they have their bespoke version of history, so it’s all good.
Don’t know much about this one, Steve.
In the pre Brando days it was simple, a generic Wasp type of male lead basically prevailed. By Wasp I don’t strictly mean British ancestry, but a certain big, square jawed,’rugged’ north European type – this included many Germans or part Germans, and even such Ashkenazi as Kirk Douglas, who no doubt has much Russian ancestry.
Brando, of course, changed it all, but contrary to popular belief Brando was neither Pole nor Italian but French Canadian – with that ubiquitous Irish thrown in.
Perhaps Ernest Borgnine was a successful Italianate crossover into Waspdom, somehow capturing generic ‘Americaness’. But all said, the transition of notably ‘ethnic’ type actors into anything resembling lead roles is a relative recent phenomenon echoing societal change.
On a lighter note the 'Colombo' actor, Peter Falk, was an Ashkenazi originating from Hungary, yet he was so utterly convincing at playing an Italian that most Italians swore that he was 'one if theirs'.Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Steve Sailer, @Anonymous, @Glossy
Whilst on the subject, Mussolini originally was never an anti-semite.
This was something forced uupon him by Hitler as the price of military support.
Like most pragmatic Italians, Mussolini never subscribed to the notion of racial hierarchies, particular of the dogmatic, Austrian bombastic square headed sort. In fact prior to the war, tghe originator of fascism was neutral, if not well disposed toward Jews.
Mussolini at one time certainly was well disposed toward the Jews, witness the fact that at least one of his mistresses was a jewess.
Civilization was the top strategy game for people my age to play when we were youngsters.
Jesus (pbuh) made perfectly clear what he felt about the pharisees (rabbis) and the talmud. Really unambiguous, personally I find the term Judaeo-Christianity deeply offensive, the two religions couldn’t be more different.
Scary and discouraging.Replies: @anon
on current trends we’re living through a re-run of the fall of the Roman republic (Optimates vs Populares) and for similar reasons so unless there’s reset it’s a question of who ends up being Octavian
(except this time with nukes)
Instead of becoming the leader of an existing nation, Mark Zuckerberg could create a new nation.
Facebook has enormous financial resources, and is willing to undertake large high-risk/high-reward projects.
Most of Facebook’s employees are highly-compensated young professionals. Many of Facebook’s employees live in expensive cities, in which they pay approximately 40% of their income in taxes.
If Facebook created a new nation, Facebook could offer their employees the option to live in this new nation.
Facebook’s nation, which would be populated by the most capable hundredth of humanity, could offer the highest quality of life in the world.
Owning a nation would enable Facebook to import engineers from any country without restrictions.
By creating a new nation, Facebook could gain a large advantage in the competition for hiring the best minds.
There's a big difference between software development/coding and engineering. They can have their own country though. We'd be fine.
The CIA's first attempt at an attack on Trump blew up in their faces. I've noticed Trump has filled graveyards with people who underestimated him.Replies: @anon, @Desiderius
yes – almost certain the CIA gave Stingers (or equivalent) to Syrian jihadists to shoot down Russian helicopters and some will be with Isis now
i imagine he’ll use that to clear house
Some Irish actors play ultra WASPs as they get the whole class thing e.g. Peter O’Toole
Zuckerberg has no charisma…the Republican (whoever it is) would blow him out of the water. Trump sure would, though I think he’d have to give up Twitter–I’m sure Zuck would find some way to use it against him.
Him being Jewish…eh. They already elected a black guy. I suspect most of the people for whom it would be a problem are already going to vote Republican no matter what.
Now would he make a good president if he somehow won? Obviously not on immigration (duh). It depends what you mean because his ideology is opposite to the mean iSteve commenter–he’s basically a globalist-centrist, the mirror image of Trump’s alt-center. I don’t think he would effectively put forth globalism, no–given his lack of charisma he’d just make everything they say look bad. So he would be less bad than an actual competent politician on the Dem side.
Eg:
http://observer.com/2017/01/donald-trump-press-conference-prague-michael-cohen/...And then, a few paragraphs later:So it's critically important that Cohen prove he wasn't in Prague, but then again it's not. It sounds like Schindler was leaked the report, bought it hook, line, and sinker, saw it blow up in his face, but still can't quite let go of it. Now (he goes on to argue) the fact that the report is false is evidence that the Russians planted it to conceal even darker compromising material.Replies: @JerryC
Yes, his columns are just spin for the anti-Trump faction at Langley, and not particularly interesting spin either. He offers no insight into the motivations behind all this palace intrigue, other than that the spooks are super-patriots and stuff. He’s the IC’s Josh Earnest.
Yeah, I understand, but I still don’t think taking that particular company in that particular time from zero to wow proves he can shift into any field and be successful.
The point of my Thiel quote was that to a certain extent Facebook was a success on its own terms and not because it was dragged into success. There’s an element of chance there, too, and a company like Facebook is better at doing what it does the larger it is. Like the man outrunning the bear, it only had to outrun its competitors.
Trump couldn’t necessarily have won in any year, but he recognized the situation (HRC, immigration, Muslims and terrorism, Mexicans and jobs, etc) and took advantage of it. Is Zuck savvy in the same way? I doubt it.
Lady Gaga is one in this cohort. I saw her interviewed on TV about the presidential election. Let’s just say that being in the top 1% as a youth didn’t allow her to transfer her musical talents into political insight.
If Zuck’s sister’s foray into alt right research is any indication, Zuck doesn’t have anything like the political intuition of Bill Clinton. And let’s face it, Obama would have had no chance if he were white. Bill Clinton is still the model for successful Dems into the next two election cycles.
Reading about Zuckerberg and his faux-Roman imperial aspirations brings to mind another Roman Emperor named “Mark”–Marcus Aurelius, the gloomy old Stoic.
Marcus Zuckerberg = Marcus Aurelius? Not!!!
One sign: he’s been photographed wearing a suit and tie.
Should we also refer to Judeo-Islamism on the basis that some historians suggest that Islam started out as a Judaizing Christian sect?Replies: @Thea
I’ve heard that many Jews take offense to the term “Judeo Christian” as the believe no such combination exists.
I wouldn’t discount Booker. Ding dong the witch is dead, so we can write off The Rodham in 2020. It wouldn’t surprise if Booker becomes a major player. His grandstanding testimony v. the Sessions nomination may be act one. If not Booker, possibly Warren. In any event, since the demokrat party has truly been taken over by The Coalition of The Fringes it would be surprising if a white male is their nominee in 2020.
Obama, despite his exotic background, could pull off a cool, African American persona (being married to Michelle helped). Booker can't.
Booker's the kind of black guy who appeals more to wealthy whites than NAMs.
https://heartiste.wordpress.com/2016/09/22/is-zuckerberg-getting-cuckerberged/Replies: @Chrisnonymous
I agree with Heartiste. Zuck’s photos with Chan show her to be more dominant than he is.
He is not a leader of men, he is a leader of geeky programmers and H1-B visa recipients.
She hitched her wagon to a fa$t hor$e, but not a natural stallion.
I need comprehensive immigration reform. You need comprehensive immigration reform. He needs comprehensive immigration reform. She needs comprehensive immigration reform. Xe needs comprehensive immigration reform. They need comprehensive immigration reform. Non-binary gender non-conforming genderqueers need comprehensive immigration reform. Everybody needs comprehensive immigration reform. Because comprehensive immigration reform is more important than life, water, food and oxygen themselves.
I am a strong, solid advocate for good, clean, top flight, top drawer, strong, solid, robust, common sense, solid as a rock, solid as they come, desperately needed, way overdue, humanitarian, compassion-based comprehensive immigration reform. The kind of immigration reform that melts in your mouth, not in your hand. The kind of immigration reform that plumps when you cook it. The kind of immigration reform that just makes you feel good and shout for joy for a job well done.
Comprehensive immigration reform will raise wages and salaries, strengthen national security, prevent terrorism, enhance our domestic crime-fighting ability, ensure that we continue to encourage the best and brightest to partake of the American dream, enhance our competitiveness and our ability to innovate, and make America more prosperous.
Comprehensive immigration reform will make the economy more fair and equitable, help clean and preserve our environment, bolster Social Security and Medicare, aid the cause of reproductive rights and LGBT rights, drive a stake through the heart of bigotry and discrimination, guarantee social justice for all, and make America more vibrant and diverse.
It will also make immigration more comprehensive.
The reason I advocate comprehensive immigration reform over other ideas is that I checked out the other ideas, and they just aren’t comprehensive, they just don’t do it for me in the comprehensiveness department. I really like the comprehensive nature of comprehensive immigration reform. The best part of comprehensive immigration reform is its comprehensiveness. With comprehensive immigration reform, I’ll be a’comprehensivin. My ultimate goal with immigration reform is to be comprehensiver than thou.
I also have a soft spot in my heart for things that are comprehensive. From a little boy, I remember sitting at our dinner table many evenings, and my father would point his finger straight at me and give me a stern look, and he told me that if I ever got a chance to screw over the goyim, to do it completely and (his own word) “comprehensively.” He was adamant that I not waste any golden or silver or green opportunities. I’m glad to say that I’m finally living up to my father’s expectations. For his most recent birthday present, I had a wooden ventriloquist style caricature doll of myself made, and I call the doll Marc de la Comprehensiva. It’s his third favorite possession in the whole world, his second is his 1978 Lincoln Town Car which he hopes will run forever, and his first is his gold plated Talmud.
The other kinds of immigration reform are also dangerous, because they rely on rhetoric such as “round them up and deport them all,” “build walls,” “make America great again.” That’s the kind of rhetoric that reminds me of Nazi Germany, and the Nazis gassed all ten of my grandmas to death at Auschwitz, a horror which my father personally witnessed and forever vowed to avenge with a now world famous phrase of his invention: “Never again.” Ten grandmas here, ten grandmas there, and that’s how we roll that odometer up to six million. Also, I’m not in the business of making America great again or any country great again, for that matter. I’m all about the leeching off of countries, sucking them dry, and then moving on to the next warm blood source. Our people’s history is such that any time some king, emperor, dictator or politician starts yelling about making his kingdom/empire/country great again, it usually winds up to where our people either lose a lot of our power or are kicked out and exiled altogether, or, as all ten of of my grandmas can attest from the great beyond, worse.
It’s why internationally respected scholars and researchers like Glenn Beck have concluded that the Presidential candidates who spew that kind of rhetoric are exactly like Hitler. They all run around bragging about their puny putrid pitiful little $10 billion fortunes, when the truth of the matter is that they took years to make that kind of money, I made my much larger $50 billion fortune almost overnight. And I mean that literally, because I often wake up and find out I’m worth a few billion more than when I went to sleep. Their fortunes are in old fashioned relics of the past, fuddy duddy stuff like buildings and real estate, and my fortune is in the asset of the future, Facebook stock. They had to make their money the old fashioned way, by earning it, and I made my fortune the new modern progressive way, scamming half the world to give me all their personal information in their tawdry pursuit for their cheap fifteen minutes of fame, so I can turn right around and sell it to Madison Avenue, the Mossad and the NSA. I made my money while I’m still young enough to enjoy spending it to break the back of the goyim.
Thanks for letting me monetize your lives, by and by.
You see, I stole someone else’s idea of a world-changing internet social media network, and it has brought me to the vestibule of omnipotence, omniscience, omnipresence, immortality, and I’m also well on my way to being the world’s first trillionaire. The one missing ingredient is comprehensive immigration reform. At least that’s what a building full of Jewish lawyers who write all my immigration litanies and spiels tell me. Every time I go there to get new marching orders, everyone there starts rubbing their hands together. The strangest part of that is that I had to learn to shake these people’s hands in a really weird way before they started doing business with me. But I’m not going to dwell on it too much, and I’m not going to ask questions, because these are the kind of people who seem like they’ll bring down some major league hurt on your head if you ask too many questions. I’m in the business of becoming obscenely rich, not asking questions. Unfortunately, comprehensive immigration reform won’t solve the most vexxing problem in my life: The wife always nagging me about buying her more shoes.
When I think of comprehensive immigration reform, I think of the only antitode to an ill that has been ailing me for quite some time. Some cartoon frog follows me around everywhere I go throwing parentheses at me, and that damned Peter Thiel is way off in the back somewhere pointing his finger at me and laughing at me. The lack of comprehensive immigration reform is taxing my mental health.
Sometimes, the other kinds of immigration reform wind up being scams. And believe me, I know a thing or three about scams. They promise to be comprehensive, but when you look at what you get, they wind up leaving out a lot of the comprehensiveness. Worse than that, you might get the full 100% comprehensiveness at first, but like a thief in the night, they break in and steal a lot of the comprehensiveness. That’s not the Marc Zuckurburg way, the fully comprehensive way. IEEE, ANSI and UL have certified a less than one ppb impurity ratio of the comprehensiveness in my immigration reform. I’m so nice that I’ll even throw in some extra added bonus comprehensiveness, 25% more free, no extra charge. I also guarantee the comprehensiveness in my immigration reform with a 7 year 70,000 mile limited powertrain warranty that also protects you from rust and corrosion. It covers you from bumper to bumper. It’s the best warranty in the immigration reform business.
This is why poll after poll shows that people support comprehensive solutions to our immigration problems, instead of genocidal solutions that have Nazi rhetoric as their foundations, or solutions bereft of comprehensiveness. It’s why more and more people are giving up silly hobbies like diddling around with fishing lures, or telescopes, or collecting stamps, or sleeping, and joining in Marc’s Comprehensive Corps. People know that middle class greed hurts billionaires in need. What’s mine is mine, what’s yours will soon be mine. People know that source code is literally rotting in the fields. People know not to turn “corporate greed” into a pejorative, because I wouldn’t be where I am today, and I wouldn’t be the putz man I am today without corporate greed. I fly my corporate greed flag high, tall and proud.
Our struggle for comprehensive immigration reform is righteous, albeit arduous. Very difficult, a very steep mountain to climb. The forces of reaction and xenophobia are well funded, their four extremist hate organizations all have bank accounts that run well into the tens of dollars. In contrast, all we have to work with are most billionaires, most corporations, almost all of Hollywood and Silicon Valley, almost all of academia, and a majority of the full force of the Federal government, and the full sympathy of the current Federal executive branch. We are locked in a real Goliath versus David struggle to speak power to truth. But the crusade led by the privileged, rich, organized and powerful against the dispossessed, broke, unorganized and weak is indeed on the right side of history in the current year, and the arc of history bends in the billionaires’ direction. All we can hope for is that we wake up every morning surrounded by our fifteen morning servants to remind us that we have made it to live to fight another day. I know I’m on the right side of history, and that history will judge all of you alt right biogted xenophobes to be deficient and derelict, because I have bought all the historians.
I know as I was growing up and going through school, especially Taking Over and Ruling the World 101 at Harvard, and I got an A in that class, I was taught that the best way to solve your problems is to get rich enough to buy them off. Either that or just wait around for the old man to kick off so you can inherit a piece of his mega-fortune, then use that money to buy off your problems. When life throws you lemons, hire a village full of illegal alien Hondurans to pick them all up, and then have your butler hoof it to Trader Joe’s to buy you some lemonade. I remember when I was in high school that we all worried about a problem called Y2K or Year 2000. Bill Gates solved his Year 2000 problems by buying the year 2000. Likewise, the status quo doesn’t bother me, because I have bought the status quo. When you’ve got the kind of money I do, you can buy lots of status quos.
There needs to be a core focus on comprehensive immigration reform for yet another critical reason — I visit a lot of these alt right websites and blogs on many days, and all their regular commenters do is whine and bellyache about their own selfish petty little concerns. They all be like: My country, my heritage, my millennia-old civilization, my people, my future, my ancestors, my posterity, my racial purity, my blonde hair, my blue eyes, my cartoon frog memes, my border security, my personal security, my quality livable neighborhoods, my affordable family formation, my community social altruism, my country’s economic well being, my fair and equitable distribution of income and wealth, me me me me me. What a bunch of greedy self-righteous cockypop! Not a one of them have the consideration to think about what I need, what I want. And it’s not like it would hurt — I think about me all the time, and it certainly hasn’t hurt me! Me thinking about me for the last 32 years has resulted in me accumulating a $50 billion fortune. If these alt right people would take the time to think about me, my fortune would be far larger. And that would be good for me. Comprehensive immigration reform would amount to a badly needed readjustment of our priorities.
But if my plans fail, and my wife starts snitching to the Securities and Exchange Commission, as she has threatened to do several times when I say I’m not going to buy her any more shoes, I’ll have to hot foot it and be on the next red eye to my secret condo and my secret bank account with a few billion stashed aside in my extradition-free tax haven in southeast Asia. No way I’m gonna let the Feds turn me into Bernie Madoff’s cellmate; that sonofabitch snores so loudly that he’s in a North Carolina prison and I can hear him all the way over here in San Francisco. To think, I only married her because I’m trying to infiltrate the Chinese banking system on behalf of my people, and she and the kids we have together give me an in. Anyway, if I ever seem to go off the grid, that’s where I’ll be, living next door to Saverin. Don’t come looking for me, especially if you’re a Fed. I do not anticipate failure, though, because my second-to-last ditch contingency involves a concept that some debbie downer prosecutors mistakenly call “extortion.” I hold the power of life and death over all of you; you’re going to see to it that I get my comprehensive immigration reform, and if you refuse, I will do worse than kill you — I’ll delete your Facebook pages. There have been cases of people dying from the apoplectic shock caused by the mental anguish of not having access to Facebook for more than four minutes.
It’s also why, in spite of the fact that I know my bad reputation precedes me, for example, I keep hearing everyone behind my back calling me a two-faced shitweasel, and those are just the people that work for me, and are related to me, and are close friends of me, and also my wife, and those were also the first words out of my kid’s mouth, and also, for some reason I can’t figure out, people who know me for long enough wind up saying things behind my back like “Maybe Hitler had a point,” “Maybe I should give Hitler a second look,” and cruel things like that, I want to assure all of you that my support for comprehensive immigration reform is pure and genuine. I will never betray the cause, I will always be loyal, solid as a rock, dependable. So much so that I beg you that when you think of comprehensive immigration reform, you should instantly think of me, the great Marc Zuckurburg.
It’s also why more and more people are saying every day, and you should too:
Make my immigration reform comprehensive, please!Replies: @Kyle McKenna, @Achmed E Newman
Hey Mark,
I tried to comment on Amren without joining Discus, but it didn’t take – comment got wiped. I’m glad I could reply to you here. I know a lot of people get somewhat annoyed with you on Amren, but I think you are damn funny. One time you had a long post like your one here (maybe it was the same one), and I was possibly the only one on Amren who read the whole thing.
Keep it up. It never fails to make me smile.
(BTW, how is your Chinese bride? Does she go? Is she a goer, know what I mean, nudge, nudge, wink wink? )
And all that's true.
But in reality, I'm so much more.
And whenever my PR flacks get back to me and tell me what "so much more" is supposed to be, I'll tell you.
Until then:
Make my immigration reform comprehensive, please!Replies: @Achmed E Newman
He was nicer in Roger Dodger, which is another movie I inexplicably like.Replies: @Harry Baldwin, @anonymouslee
Eisenberg was likeable in Zombieland.
Two millennia = farther down the same page?
One problem is that the alt right anti-semites don't understand Christianity particularly well so they aren't familiar with the great deal of linkages between the old and New Testament. The idea that the seminal formulatoe of Christianity, Paul, wasn't influence by "Judiac" (I love the creativity you guys go to in order to find synonyms for Jewish) values is absurd. The Christians that founded this country certainly saw the similarities.Replies: @Chase, @Kyle McKenna, @The most deplorable one, @Dumbo, @Mr. Anon, @Mr. Anon
My take: If Jesus is really the Messiah, a way to see it would be that, for Christians, the real path is that of Christianity, continuing from the Old Testament to the New. So the Jews who did not recognize Jesus Christ and do not accept the New Testament would be really “heretics” who then founded a new religion (let’s call it Talmudism) based on the negation of Christ. So really there is not much of Judeo-Christian values for 2017 years, as Christianity was already a separation from Judaism.
Also, the practices of Hassidic Judaism are very alien to most Christians. In fact, they are alien even to secular Jews.
So, if in religious terms there is a clear difference, secular Jews and secular Christians are perhaps more connected, culturally, since Jews inhabited for many years in Christian countries and interacted with the population, so there are more than a few things in common.
But then it would be better to call this Judeo-Atheist culture, or something else. There’s little of Christian in it, and not much of Judeo either.
I’m sorry if I could not make it clearer. Need more coffee.
Thanks for looking all that up for us. It’s worth noting, though, that Opinionator is a troll here on matters Jewish.
The Iliad is great. It’s amazing how many writers have little idea what it’s about. The war between ancient Troy and Sparta?
It would be child’s play for the guy that controls the NSA (notionally Trump) to destroy any possible political future for Zuck the Cuck by hacking facebook, and releasing plenty of damaging information and making the hack look like carelessness on the part of Zuck’s staff. If you annihilate the trustworthiness of his brand, you annihilate his power. Much harder than reducing the value of Trumps buildings, for instance.
His primary obstacle may be that he’s simply too smart:
Zuckerberg’s success, by this reasoning, has depended on being the leader of a group of already highly selected, exceptionally high-IQ followers.
It’s unlikely to translate to the masses (part of the reason so many of the masses already dislike/distrust him)
http://polymatharchives.blogspot.ca/2015/01/the-inappropriately-excluded.html
Therefore it is absolutely morally required for the most intelligent to to rule everyone, for every less intelligent person to be governed by a more intelligent person, and never to allow a less intelligent person to rule a more intelligent person. "Absolutely required" means just that, a moral imperative that logically outweighs all other possible concerns whatsoever.
Translation: he found one thing he could do well, it succeeded enormously because the time for it was right, so now he's surrounded by sycophants who tell him that can do anything better than anybody.Replies: @Steve from Detroit
Great post. However, I would suggest the following edit:
Translation: he found one thing he could do well, it succeeded enormously because the time for it was right, so now he’s surrounded by sycophants who tell him that can do anything better than anybody
Translation: he stole one thing he could do well, it succeeded enormously because the right people interceded on his behalf and interfered with the guys who had created the one thing, so now he’s surrounded by sycophants who tell him that he can do anything better than anybody.
In reference to another post, I still have never received a satisfactory explanation as to why Facebook has been so phenomenally successful while MySpace simply disappeared. I leave open two possibilities: (1) I am unable to understand the technical explanation, or (2) I am simply unwilling to accept the explanation.
It's kind of like saying that Noah Webster created a secular speller for the nation. It is only said by people who have never read either the 1783 or the 1787 versions of his speller (and who do not know how to use a search engine to search for sentences that look like they might come from the New Testament.)Replies: @Sam Haysom, @Steve from Detroit
As usual I will merely reference words of Joe Sobran; someone much smarter than I:
Despite all the sentimental rhetoric to the contrary — such as pious nonsense about “the Judaeo-Christian tradition” — Judaism and Christianity are radically opposed over the most important thing of all: Jesus Christ, who commands us to be wise as serpents and harmless as doves, and to love our enemies, which does not mean mistaking them for friends.
So let’s say joe Biden and Zuckerberg are working, politically, in roughly similar directions.
Joe Biden was the dumbest guy in the room at his garbage law school and at the bar exam testing center when he failed to pass.
Zuckerberg was the 1600 SAT smartest guy in the room among harvard computer science majors and silicon valley entrepreneurs.
For those sanguine about zuckbergers ambitions I hope you remember Voltaire’s prayer. Because people like joe Biden are ridiculous while mark zuckerberg, whatever you think of him, is not ridiculous. He’s a killer.
Great group; and I would add James Caan, who also has the distinction of possibly being the last Jewish running back at Michigan State University.
He was nicer in Roger Dodger, which is another movie I inexplicably like.Replies: @Harry Baldwin, @anonymouslee
I love the Squid and the Whale and find it occupies an odd space where people either like it or dislike it but in unpredictable ways–as opposed to something like Unforgiven where I think it’s good but can predict perfectly who would or wouldn’t enjoy it.
Or, to put it another way, when friends I’ve recommended it to don’t enjoy it I realize I don’t want to argue with them over its aesthetic merits. You either find Jeff Daniels amazing performance hilarious or you don’t.
Not an actor, but the Irish American playwright/screenwriter John Patrick Shanley won an Oscar for writing a Moonstruck, about Italian Americans. And neither of the two actresses who won Oscars for playing an Italian-American mother and daughter were of Italian ancestry.
There’s an actor you may not know–Jason Biggs, most famous for playing the virginal lead in American Pie (his father was played by Eugene Levy)–who was cast by Woody Allen in the Woody Allen role in one of his late period duds.
He’s Italian but Woody just assumed he was Jewish. Didn’t even occur to him he might not be (Biggs didn’t try to trick him or anything).
The Old Testament is concerned with who, what, when, and where. The New extends those four (to, respectively, the gentiles; the antitheses – as you note; the present and future – alpha and omega; and the world and beyond) but its distinguishing feature is its addition of the how and the why. In no case is anything renunciated.
See Romans for a useful synopsis; it’s the intellectual heart of the scripture.
More likely 19ish.
How much of a “thing” is pure Irish ancestry?
They seem to have assimilated both culturally and genetically.
Hollywood LOVES ethnic Irish-American movies set in some Boston or maybe new york enclave but that strikes me as false. or, rather, they may be talking about someone of my grandparents generation and pretending its not the boring story of them not really caring who their kids and grandkids married.
As you’ve said, liberal Hollywood actually thinks genetic destiny and real authentic ethnic culture is awesome. Even if we don’t have it.
Ed Burns tried to be a movie star who wrote and directed indie movies about being Irish-American but his career fizzled.
Conan O’Brien might be Boston Irish-American? but not like in the movies. As Mark Whalberg said on his show, “Were both from Boston? You’re from Brookline. I’m from Dorchester. We used to beat up rich kids like you.”
Matt Damon and Ben Affleck were, of course, Cambridge elites and not Southie Irish proles like in their movie. Talk about cultural appropriation…
Yeah, that’s why the whole world just voted for that UN resolution. Must be the philosemitism.
There are two groups of people who wouldn't vote for a Jew. On the right, the alt-right and probably some evangelicals who think Jews are OK but think the leader of a Christian nation should be a Christian. Since I'm assuming Zuckerberg is running as a Dem, they don't really enter into this since they will vote GOP or stay home. (He might increase alt-right turnout for his opponent.)
On the left you have various diverse types. I'm guessing Zuckerberg can probably buy off most Hispanics. Blacks are going to have depressed turnout but most will probably ultimately vote for the Dem.
He'll lose a lot of middle-of-the-road people who would prefer a Christian, sure, but as we saw with Obama and Trump, a lot has to do with who your opponent is and what else is going on in the country. If people are angry enough at the other party they become a lot more forgiving of their guy's weaknesses.
So I think it could happen. Probably not likely anytime soon, and not for Zuckerberg.Replies: @Desiderius
Heck, it’s almost like a university of Chicago professor appropriating south side blacks…
That explains a lot. The Swiss don’t do much invading or inviting.
“Others have told me that, to this day, Zuckerberg loves to play Risk, a strategy board game where you have to essentially take over the world. Believe it or not, he ended up applying some of these theories while forging and managing the extraordinary growth of Facebook, organizing his product teams in similar ways to his battalions in the board games. (According to someone close to him, these days Zuckerberg loves Game of Thrones and enjoys cooking a meat-laden “Dothraki Feast” while watching Westeros fall in and out of anarchy.)”
So, Zuckerberg’s Will to Power was inspired by Risk and Game of Thrones.
What would a Zuckerberg Administration have in store for us?
What could possibly go wrong?
“Whereas Zuck has poured huge amounts of money into his FWD.us lobby to push for the obvious solution to disappearing American jobs: more immigration!”
Wait a minute there, Steve. We need immigration. After all, rich people need butlers, don’t they?
Then again, maybe they don’t:
“And then there was the most obvious intimation: earlier this year, Zuckerberg, who has a habit of posting his annual New Year’s resolution on his Facebook page, declared that after conquering the previous challenges of learning Mandarin, and building an artificial-intelligence butler for his home,”
What will all those immigrants do in America after the “End of Work”. Perhaps Zucktavious Caesar can build a collossal venue to host mixed martial arts games for the purpose of entertaining the idle masses. He could even call it “The Collosseum”. Free chalupas would be distributed to the crowds.
The CIA's first attempt at an attack on Trump blew up in their faces. I've noticed Trump has filled graveyards with people who underestimated him.Replies: @anon, @Desiderius
Schumer’s threat was a body blow to the CIA’s credibility among some demos who would otherwise be supportive. May have been made with that in mind.
How many Hellenist were there in England?
(1/100)*(1/100)*(1/100)*N≥1 ---> N≥1,000,000 = 1 milion Helenist?Replies: @middle aged vet !!!
Yes, that was hyperbole, there were probably less than a thousand Hellenists in England at the time.
Funny how political consultants are drawn to giant piles of money. It's almost like their primary talent. Maybe their only talent.
If the Zuck is seriously contemplating a run for office, he might regret having pushed the open-borders agenda so aggressively.Replies: @anon, @Mr. Anon
“Funny how political consultants are drawn to giant piles of money. It’s almost like their primary talent. Maybe their only talent.”
That reminds me of Tom Lehrer’s quip about the medical student who decided to specialize in diseases of the rich.
On a lighter note the 'Colombo' actor, Peter Falk, was an Ashkenazi originating from Hungary, yet he was so utterly convincing at playing an Italian that most Italians swore that he was 'one if theirs'.Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Steve Sailer, @Anonymous, @Glossy
I’m Ashkenazi (98.3% as per 23andMe) and I was surprised to learn that we’re part Italian. Sure, there are a lot of visual and emotional similarities, but that can be said about any pair of Mediterranean peoples. I don’t think we’re more like Italians than we are like Greeks or Spaniards or Lebanese or Armenians. Italians are confident, Jews are neurotic, Italians excel in the visual arts, Jews in the verbal ones.
There was a lot of selection after the admixture event, probably two thousand years of it, so we’re not what you’d get if you crossed, say, a modern Lebanese person with a modern Italian one. I always assumed that we’re part European, but if you asked me a few years ago where the Euro portion came from, I’d have said “probably from all over”.
It would be very interesting to find out what part of Italy it is. According to geneticists Italy has a lot of “structure”, meaning that the genetic differences between its regions are large and very old. I guess the Ashkenazi founding stock would have come to the city of Rome, as merchants or prisoners of war after one of the Judean revolts. And Rome would have been a melting pot, not just of Italy, but of the whole Empire. So maybe the Euro side of our ancestry is a mixture of various Italian regions, with bits from the rest of the Med thrown in.
On the other hand, all-Irish actors born in America are increasingly rare.
Conan O’Brien has said that he’s 100% Irish.
Ann Coulter just penned an article for AmRen? Isn’t that kind of a minor watershed event?
You could say it's gutsy just to let Amren carry (and pay for) that column.
Huh? Lots of the world is antisemitic, much more than the USA average.
There are two groups of people who wouldn’t vote for a Jew. On the right, the alt-right and probably some evangelicals who think Jews are OK but think the leader of a Christian nation should be a Christian. Since I’m assuming Zuckerberg is running as a Dem, they don’t really enter into this since they will vote GOP or stay home. (He might increase alt-right turnout for his opponent.)
On the left you have various diverse types. I’m guessing Zuckerberg can probably buy off most Hispanics. Blacks are going to have depressed turnout but most will probably ultimately vote for the Dem.
He’ll lose a lot of middle-of-the-road people who would prefer a Christian, sure, but as we saw with Obama and Trump, a lot has to do with who your opponent is and what else is going on in the country. If people are angry enough at the other party they become a lot more forgiving of their guy’s weaknesses.
So I think it could happen. Probably not likely anytime soon, and not for Zuckerberg.
One problem is that the alt right anti-semites don't understand Christianity particularly well so they aren't familiar with the great deal of linkages between the old and New Testament. The idea that the seminal formulatoe of Christianity, Paul, wasn't influence by "Judiac" (I love the creativity you guys go to in order to find synonyms for Jewish) values is absurd. The Christians that founded this country certainly saw the similarities.Replies: @Chase, @Kyle McKenna, @The most deplorable one, @Dumbo, @Mr. Anon, @Mr. Anon
“….what on earth does that have to Judeo-Christian.
…………..
The idea that the seminal formulatoe of Christianity, Paul, wasn’t influence by “Judiac” (I love the creativity you guys go to in order to find synonyms for Jewish) values is absurd. The Christians that founded this country certainly saw the similarities.”
And yet the term “judeo-christian” didn’t even exist prior to about 1935:
Judeo-Christian N-gram Viewer
Zuckerberg as the nominee would fit the modern Democratic Party. That he’s even being talked about it reveals the make up of the Left today. The Left is exclusively the domain of the White Upper Class, single younger White women, and non-Whites. That’s it. The Left long ago threw out working class White males and women alike; who sat on the sidelines not voting until someone did some research and figured that these voters could be persuaded to come out and vote.
That someone was Donald Trump. Trump understood that the center of gravity of the modern political dynamic had changed, radically, under Obama; and it was possible for him to win. Everyone else now knows that there *IS* a path to victory to promise, and just as importantly, DELIVER, economic and social results to a totally ignored political market: White people who don’t live in Malibu, hipster Brooklyn, the Upper East Side, or Georgetown.
Zuckerberg? He appeals exclusively to the Upper Class. THEY control: the media, government, NGOs, Hollywood, the universities, the CIA, most of the FBI, most corporations. That’s money but not votes. Trump proved that naked and bold appeals to the interest of working White Americans can overcome the Kultur Smog of a culture dominated by the Kardashians and rappers and essentially one debased minstrel show.
Nor can any non-White candidate now get massive Black/Hispanic turnout. The lesson of the Obama Years is that **ONLY** an aggressively anti-White Black candidate can turn out those voters; while resonating particularly with White UMC women and younger single White women united in their animus towards non-Alpha White men (that population is about 90% of White men).
Just like working class Whites stayed home for Mr. 47%, “I like firing people” Mitt Romney who offered … tax cuts for rich guys and Hedge Funds; so too will Blacks and Hispanics stay home for a dude offering … more power to Silicon Valley masters of the Universe.
Zuck has a lot of money. He has no platform or critically PATRONAGE to offer Blacks or the great mass of Whites. A Zuck, an Elizabeth Warren, a Steve Harvey, a Corey Booker, a Tom Hanks, would all suffer the same set of problems. A Black dude can turnout Blacks but not working Whites. A White person won’t turn out Blacks nor working class Whites unless offering massive patronage aimed directly at the White working population.
Personally, if the U.S. is to become an empire (arguably it is already) I think that we should look at the Austro-Hungarian Empire, or even the Holy Roman Empire as a model, not the Western Roman Empire.
Why? Austro-Hungary is one of history’s obvious losers.
The Holy Roman Empire aspired to emulate the Western Roman Empire, with the added-on features of war against Islam and trying to spread Latin Christianity. So why is the HRE good in your opinion, whereas the WRE was bad?
Do you agree with the goals of the Holy Roman Empire?
Every empire is one of history's obvious losers. The Austro-Hungarian did as well as most any other.
Yeah, De Niro as Pan-European Man sounds about right:
http://ethnicelebs.com/robert-de-niro
I’d also add EthniCelebs as an excellent resource:
http://ethnicelebs.com/
Ann’s got more guts than 99% of so-called “Conservative” men.
Indeed she does. She's more of a woman than the women who write for National Review. And more of a man than the men who write for it.Replies: @Jim Don Bob
There was a lot of selection after the admixture event, probably two thousand years of it, so we're not what you'd get if you crossed, say, a modern Lebanese person with a modern Italian one. I always assumed that we're part European, but if you asked me a few years ago where the Euro portion came from, I'd have said "probably from all over".
It would be very interesting to find out what part of Italy it is. According to geneticists Italy has a lot of "structure", meaning that the genetic differences between its regions are large and very old. I guess the Ashkenazi founding stock would have come to the city of Rome, as merchants or prisoners of war after one of the Judean revolts. And Rome would have been a melting pot, not just of Italy, but of the whole Empire. So maybe the Euro side of our ancestry is a mixture of various Italian regions, with bits from the rest of the Med thrown in.Replies: @syonredux
Yeah, that’s what people always assumed (that the founding event happened in Roman Imperial times), but recent studies indicate that the Italian admixture happened significantly later:
https://westhunt.wordpress.com/2016/07/20/even-more-on-ashkenazi-ancestry/
“Ann’s got more guts than 99% of so-called “Conservative” men.”
Indeed she does. She’s more of a woman than the women who write for National Review. And more of a man than the men who write for it.
Why? Austro-Hungary is one of history's obvious losers.
The Holy Roman Empire aspired to emulate the Western Roman Empire, with the added-on features of war against Islam and trying to spread Latin Christianity. So why is the HRE good in your opinion, whereas the WRE was bad?
Do you agree with the goals of the Holy Roman Empire?Replies: @Mr. Anon
“Why? Austro-Hungary is one of history’s obvious losers.”
Every empire is one of history’s obvious losers. The Austro-Hungarian did as well as most any other.
One problem is that the alt right anti-semites don't understand Christianity particularly well so they aren't familiar with the great deal of linkages between the old and New Testament. The idea that the seminal formulatoe of Christianity, Paul, wasn't influence by "Judiac" (I love the creativity you guys go to in order to find synonyms for Jewish) values is absurd. The Christians that founded this country certainly saw the similarities.Replies: @Chase, @Kyle McKenna, @The most deplorable one, @Dumbo, @Mr. Anon, @Mr. Anon
“The idea that the seminal formulatoe of Christianity, Paul, wasn’t influence by “Judiac” (I love the creativity you guys go to in order to find synonyms for Jewish) values is absurd.”
But isn’t it true that there is an important distinction to be made between the terms “judaic”, which refers to Judaism (a religion), and “jewish”, which refers to jewishness (an ethnicity)?
Steve: If you haven’t seen it already, you might check out the movie “Limitless”, starring Cooper in what was a very interesting performance. It is, in many ways, a very i-Stevey movie, and just a really good movie overall. The only bad part of it, in my opinion, was DeNiro playing some kind of Ichan / Koch like billionaire. Apart from the fact that I have just come to despise DeNiro for his Hollywood liberal sanctimony, I just can’t buy DeNiro playing anything other than a thug – it’s the only thing he’s convincing at. I don’t think he’s been good in any movie he’s been in since “Heat”.
The movie Troy was produced by that dumb blond pretty boy, Brad Pitt. What a low-IQ dope he is!
His recent ex-‘s paternal uncle, Barry Voight, is a noted geologist. Some brains in that family.
Sadly, Shiloh will not benefit.
In the pre Brando days it was simple, a generic Wasp type of male lead basically prevailed. By Wasp I don't strictly mean British ancestry, but a certain big, square jawed,'rugged' north European type - this included many Germans or part Germans, and even such Ashkenazi as Kirk Douglas, who no doubt has much Russian ancestry.
Brando, of course, changed it all, but contrary to popular belief Brando was neither Pole nor Italian but French Canadian - with that ubiquitous Irish thrown in.
Perhaps Ernest Borgnine was a successful Italianate crossover into Waspdom, somehow capturing generic 'Americaness'. But all said, the transition of notably 'ethnic' type actors into anything resembling lead roles is a relative recent phenomenon echoing societal change.Replies: @syonredux
http://ethnicelebs.com/marlon-brando
Personally, if the U.S. is to become an empire (arguably it is already) I think that we should look at the Austro-Hungarian Empire, or even the Holy Roman Empire as a model, not the Western Roman Empire.
I was puzzled about why this poster admired the Holy Roman Empire.
Looking in Wikipedia re HRH, I think I see why. Somebody admires the alleged multi-ethnicity and the monarchism of the the A-H and HRE empires:
Holy Roman Empire
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Not to be confused with Roman Empire.
Holy Roman Empire
Sacrum Imperium Romanum
800/962[a]–1806
Imperial Banner Coat of arms
The Holy Roman Empire around 1600, superimposed over current state borders
Capital No official capital, various imperial seats[b]
Languages Various[c]
Religion Catholic Church (until 1806)
Lutheranism (1555–1806)
Calvinism (1648–1806
The Holy Roman Empire (Latin: Sacrum Imperium Romanum) was a multi-ethnic complex of territories in central Europe that developed during the Early Middle Ages and continued until its dissolution in 1806.[7] The largest territory of the empire after 962 was the Kingdom of Germany, though it also came to include the Kingdom of Bohemia, the Kingdom of Burgundy, the Kingdom of Italy, and numerous other territories.[8][9][10]
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The precise term “Holy Roman Empire” was not used until the 13th century, but the concept of translatio imperii,[d] the notion that he held supreme power inherited from the emperors of Rome, was fundamental to the prestige of the emperor.[9] The office of Holy Roman Emperor was traditionally elective, although frequently controlled by dynasties. The German prince-electors, the highest-ranking noblemen of the empire, usually elected one of their peers as “King of the Romans,” and he would later be crowned emperor by the Pope; the tradition of papal coronations was discontinued in the 16th century. The empire never achieved the extent of political unification formed in France, evolving instead into a decentralized, limited elective monarchy composed of hundreds of sub-units, principalities, duchies, counties, Free Imperial Cities, and other domains.[10][19]
Wikipedia sez the HRE was “multi-ethnic,” but the multi-ethnicity of the HRE did not include Hindus, Confucians, Muhammedans, and so on. The Holy Roman Empire’s multi-enthnicity was a multi-ethnicity of different European groups.
I’m fine with the part about excluding non-Christian peoples, but the USA is the land of e pluribus unum, not multi ethnicity.
Did the Holy Roman Empire stay together? Nope: The empire never achieved the extent of political unification formed in France, evolving instead into a decentralized, limited elective monarchy composed of hundreds of sub-units, principalities, duchies, counties, Free Imperial Cities, and other domains.[10][19]
HRE broke up , just as its skim milk diluted with water descendant, the European Union, is falling apart. The HRE is not a good model to emulate, no more than the Austria-Hungary.
“…The office of Holy Roman Emperor was traditionally elective, although frequently controlled by dynasties…”
Monarchist junk, Moldbug foolishness.
The reconquest of Spain was carried out during the HRE era, as were the Crusades. That part of the HRE I can agree with. I suggest that a similar program is need for California and the rest of the American Southwest..
Translation: he found one thing he could do well, it succeeded enormously because the time for it was right, so now he’s surrounded by sycophants who tell him that can do anything better than anybody
Translation: he stole one thing he could do well, it succeeded enormously because the right people interceded on his behalf and interfered with the guys who had created the one thing, so now he's surrounded by sycophants who tell him that he can do anything better than anybody.
In reference to another post, I still have never received a satisfactory explanation as to why Facebook has been so phenomenally successful while MySpace simply disappeared. I leave open two possibilities: (1) I am unable to understand the technical explanation, or (2) I am simply unwilling to accept the explanation.Replies: @anon
There is no technical explanation – it was a fashion / snob thing.
Certainly none come readily to mind, which isn’t surprising. The Irish and the Italians have very little in common. Try to construct a Venn Diagram, and Catholicism will be just about the only overlapping area. Even there, the differences will be marked, as Irish Catholicism has a very different “feel” from the Italian variety.
Even actors who are 50/50 Irish and Italian mixes tend to specialize in playing only one half of their ancestry. Cf, for example, John Travolta and David Caruso:
http://ethnicelebs.com/john-travolta
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Caruso
Travolta specializes in Italian-American parts, whereas Caruso plays Irish-American.Physiognomy as destiny, perhaps? Caruso is extremely Irish looking…..
This was something forced uupon him by Hitler as the price of military support.
Like most pragmatic Italians, Mussolini never subscribed to the notion of racial hierarchies, particular of the dogmatic, Austrian bombastic square headed sort. In fact prior to the war, tghe originator of fascism was neutral, if not well disposed toward Jews.Replies: @Dan Hayes
Anonymous:
Mussolini at one time certainly was well disposed toward the Jews, witness the fact that at least one of his mistresses was a jewess.
I tried to comment on Amren without joining Discus, but it didn't take - comment got wiped. I'm glad I could reply to you here. I know a lot of people get somewhat annoyed with you on Amren, but I think you are damn funny. One time you had a long post like your one here (maybe it was the same one), and I was possibly the only one on Amren who read the whole thing.
Keep it up. It never fails to make me smile.
(BTW, how is your Chinese bride? Does she go? Is she a goer, know what I mean, nudge, nudge, wink wink? )Replies: @Marc Zuckurburg
You know, people say that I’m nothing more than an alt-right troll from Chicago.
And all that’s true.
But in reality, I’m so much more.
And whenever my PR flacks get back to me and tell me what “so much more” is supposed to be, I’ll tell you.
Until then:
Make my immigration reform comprehensive, please!
Here at Trump-King, "special orders don't upset us, all we ask is that you let us have it Achmed's way".
Or you could visit McTrumps where you can have:
Two all beef patties,
special sauce*, lettuce, cheese,
revoke of birthright citizenship,
clampdown on tourist visas,
immigration moratorium,
operation wetback 2.0,
pickles, onions,
on a sesame seed bun.
(There, that wasn't so hard to say, was it?)
*Nothing but thousand island dressing, sucker.
He won’t be satisfied with a mere nation.
There are two groups of people who wouldn't vote for a Jew. On the right, the alt-right and probably some evangelicals who think Jews are OK but think the leader of a Christian nation should be a Christian. Since I'm assuming Zuckerberg is running as a Dem, they don't really enter into this since they will vote GOP or stay home. (He might increase alt-right turnout for his opponent.)
On the left you have various diverse types. I'm guessing Zuckerberg can probably buy off most Hispanics. Blacks are going to have depressed turnout but most will probably ultimately vote for the Dem.
He'll lose a lot of middle-of-the-road people who would prefer a Christian, sure, but as we saw with Obama and Trump, a lot has to do with who your opponent is and what else is going on in the country. If people are angry enough at the other party they become a lot more forgiving of their guy's weaknesses.
So I think it could happen. Probably not likely anytime soon, and not for Zuckerberg.Replies: @Desiderius
Yes, that was the joke.
The same goes for non-white Americans.
Wait a minute there, Steve. We need immigration. After all, rich people need butlers, don't they?
Then again, maybe they don't:
"And then there was the most obvious intimation: earlier this year, Zuckerberg, who has a habit of posting his annual New Year’s resolution on his Facebook page, declared that after conquering the previous challenges of learning Mandarin, and building an artificial-intelligence butler for his home,"
What will all those immigrants do in America after the "End of Work". Perhaps Zucktavious Caesar can build a collossal venue to host mixed martial arts games for the purpose of entertaining the idle masses. He could even call it "The Collosseum". Free chalupas would be distributed to the crowds.Replies: @guest
Wait a second, Zuckerberg cracked artificial intelligence? How long before his robot servants enslave humanity?
They seem to have assimilated both culturally and genetically.
Hollywood LOVES ethnic Irish-American movies set in some Boston or maybe new york enclave but that strikes me as false. or, rather, they may be talking about someone of my grandparents generation and pretending its not the boring story of them not really caring who their kids and grandkids married.
As you've said, liberal Hollywood actually thinks genetic destiny and real authentic ethnic culture is awesome. Even if we don't have it.Replies: @Altai
That’s the funny thing about the new Daredevil series. Still set in Hells Kitchen, but now it isn’t an ethnic Irish enclave and the days of Irish gangsters in New York are long gone. Matt Murdock is still an Irish practicing Catholic lawyer (I’d love to see how many of those you can find in New York in their late 20s/early 30s) but now he beats up a wider ethnic array of gangsters. (Hollywood loves seeing Russians get beat up.)
Of course, even back when the character was first created was long after the infamous era anyway. So he and his setting was anachronistic from the start. But today the idea of hordes of Irish-American gangsters in Hell’s Kitchen is just too absurd.
He was playing a thug in Limitless. Being Flynn is good.
Indeed, it is useful to distinguish religious from secular Jews. I don’t know if “judaic” is the proper term or not, but I wouldn’t use it to refer to Marx or Freud, for instance.
Twenty years or so ago there was a movie called Sleepers, about a couple of gangsters in Hell’s Kitchen–one of which I recall as having an Italian name, the other Irish–who kill a reform school guard that sexually abused them as kids. They beat the rap thanks to a multiethnic underground network of sympathetic neighborhood folk, including a Catholic priest. The movie spends a lot of time flashed back to the 60s, representing Hell’s Kitchen as a vibrant mix of Irish, Italians, and Puerto Ricans even then.
It feels like the balance leans towards Italy, which might be a result of the gangster aspect. It was written by the Jewish Barry Levinson, I think, for what it’s worth.
And all that's true.
But in reality, I'm so much more.
And whenever my PR flacks get back to me and tell me what "so much more" is supposed to be, I'll tell you.
Until then:
Make my immigration reform comprehensive, please!Replies: @Achmed E Newman
Yes sir, one immigration reform, hold the amnesty, extra mayo and deportation, coming right up!
Here at Trump-King, “special orders don’t upset us, all we ask is that you let us have it Achmed’s way”.
Or you could visit McTrumps where you can have:
Two all beef patties,
special sauce*, lettuce, cheese,
revoke of birthright citizenship,
clampdown on tourist visas,
immigration moratorium,
operation wetback 2.0,
pickles, onions,
on a sesame seed bun.
(There, that wasn’t so hard to say, was it?)
*Nothing but thousand island dressing, sucker.
I’m not convinced Jews will ever be ready for a Jewish president.
Who did Jews vote for on Nov. 8?
Was it the Jew with no Jewish grandchildren, the shiksa with all Jewish grandchildren, or the alpha male goy with Jewish grandchildren?
I doubt there are many engineers working at facebook, PT, just a lot of computer guys. It’s not engineering, and I doubt that many of that crowd would be able to build anything in the world of reality.
There’s a big difference between software development/coding and engineering. They can have their own country though. We’d be fine.
Outside the box thinking. I like it. Facebook board member Peter Thiel has talked about “seasteading” but you could probably buy off some small Pacific Island nation instead.
The point of my Thiel quote was that to a certain extent Facebook was a success on its own terms and not because it was dragged into success. There's an element of chance there, too, and a company like Facebook is better at doing what it does the larger it is. Like the man outrunning the bear, it only had to outrun its competitors.
Trump couldn't necessarily have won in any year, but he recognized the situation (HRC, immigration, Muslims and terrorism, Mexicans and jobs, etc) and took advantage of it. Is Zuck savvy in the same way? I doubt it.
Lady Gaga is one in this cohort. I saw her interviewed on TV about the presidential election. Let's just say that being in the top 1% as a youth didn't allow her to transfer her musical talents into political insight.
If Zuck's sister's foray into alt right research is any indication, Zuck doesn't have anything like the political intuition of Bill Clinton. And let's face it, Obama would have had no chance if he were white. Bill Clinton is still the model for successful Dems into the next two election cycles.Replies: @Dave Pinsen
Obviously being a hugely successful entrepreneur doesn’t necessarily translate to huge success in other fields. But no one ever built a $300 billion market cap company based on luck. That’s just silly.
It’s just syndicated, isn’t it? VDare has the same column, and it’s probably on 1000’s of other websites – I assume they have to pay something for it.
You could say it’s gutsy just to let Amren carry (and pay for) that column.
De Niro was best at projecting menace. Heat is the last movie I can recall where he did that convincingly.
I’d discount him.
Obama, despite his exotic background, could pull off a cool, African American persona (being married to Michelle helped). Booker can’t.
Booker’s the kind of black guy who appeals more to wealthy whites than NAMs.
I love iSteve’s sense of humor. He repeats that Zuck/Roman Emperor pic comparison until it becomes absurd, and then newly hilarious.
“Trump, who has continually promised to revive the low-skilled segments of the manufacturing business, is utterly oblivious to the reality that robots, driverless cars, and algorithms are going to vanquish millions of jobs in the coming years. It will likely be tens of millions of jobs in the coming decades.”
Trump has considerable real-world savvy, unlike these idiots who seem to have forgotten the history of the 20th century and imagine that the tens of millions of unemployed are just going to sit around and play Candy Crush on their government iphones.
See Romans for a useful synopsis; it's the intellectual heart of the scripture.Replies: @Kyle McKenna
Jesus Christ didn’t just renounce Jewish law, he renounced it in the most forceful and definitive terms imaginable. He said– repeatedly–‘you have heard the elders (prophets) telling you that, but instead I say this.’ And then went on, point by point, to preach the diametric opposite of Jewish Law.
Supposedly he framed this within ‘I come not to defy the elders (prophets) but to redeem them’ and if he said that he could have been trying to save his skin (didn’t work!) or retain his audience (sort of worked), or any of a dozen other possible interpretations. But there is NO possible interpretation of the Sermon on the Mount which does not recognise that Jesus is casting aside Jewish theology lock, stock, and barrel. Jesus was a revolutionary, an apostate, and ‘righteous judaism’ spat him out.
Torah: “you are to take life for life, eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot, burn for burn, wound for wound, bruise for bruise.”(Exod. 21:22-25)
Jesus: “But I say to you, do not resist one who is evil. Whoever strikes you on your right cheek, turn the other to him also. If anyone would sue you and take away your coat, let him have your cloak also. And whoever compels you to go one mile, go with him two.” (Matthew 5:39)
I daresay that many ‘hebraics’ get caught up on this point simply because they cannot understand Jesus Christ’s admonitions. An alternative possibility is that they are simply infuriated by his admonitions.
Another (more relevant) discussion here:
https://www.unz.com/article/exodus-redux-jewish-identity-and-the-shaping-of-history/
I’m not convinced Israel ever be ready for an Irish-Catholic Prime Minister.
Indeed she does. She's more of a woman than the women who write for National Review. And more of a man than the men who write for it.Replies: @Jim Don Bob
Agree. Coulter wrote regularly for NR until one day in the early 2000s they gave her crap about something she wrote. She told them to go f**k themselves and quit. I do not always agree with her and her shtick is being provocative, but she has balls. It’s been a long time since I read NR.
Yeah. And those are discouraging enough to contemplate, as the end game of our once-great republic. 1914, not such a great year for the Dual Monarchy. Fortunately for Progressives, they have their bespoke version of history, so it's all good.Replies: @Hibernian
The Holy Roman Empire was neither holy, nor Roman, nor an empire.
Sorry Dave, but … uh … no.
Facebook\Zuckerberg had at least an order of magnitude more “networking effect” at it’s back then Microsoft\Gates did with DOS\Windows or Google has in search\ads.
Zuckerberg had the advantage of starting out with the college–elite college–crowd on board, the demo you actually had to get to make the thing *matter* and rolled out in the environment where the hardware\network capability really made it possible for “social networking” to take off in a big way. And Facebook actually looked pretty unimpressive at several turns like figuring out mobile. It’s just that it’s got pretty much the most extreme network effect imaginable so even bumbling around for a while it could make it work.
Give me say a Ford CEO who rolls out multiple lines of cars that sell across all the worlds market and reorganizes operations to say double per car profit … i’d be impressed by that guy, that would be really hard. Zuckerberg–smart guy, got the right app started in the right environment (Harvard) at the right moment, and then managed to successfully ride the deluge of the world signing up. But “strategic genius”? I haven’t seen it.
Peter Thiel seems to be thinking about running for California governor:
http://www.politico.com/story/2017/01/peter-thiel-california-governor-bid-233632
Thiel has a legit claim to being a strategic genius that does not rest on playing Risk.
It'll be fun to watch Zuck go down in flames, though.
"They trusted me - dumb fucks" will make a great campaign slogan.Yeah, why don't the moldbug cultists say we're a "post-Judeo-Christian" country, that leftism is "post-Judeo-Christian," etc? Oh, yeah, I (((forgot))).Replies: @ben tillman
Yeah, if you want to see real Judeo-Christianity, look back at the Puritans.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H1XFCH1-WHo
Your analogy holds better than you might like, although most Jews are actually Orthodox, who seem to stick closer to Torah.Replies: @ben tillman
I was looking for the right words to say something along those lines, but that’s better than what I came up with.
“You can contrast it with the category of actors who largely stayed within their own ethnicity, like Joe Pesci and Woody Allen.”
Joe Pesci played a Jew in The Public Eye, The Super, and the Lethal Weapon films.
“And neither of the two actresses who won Oscars for playing an Italian-American mother and daughter were of Italian ancestry.”
But they aren’t WASPs either. They were still part of the Mediterranean world, an Armenian and a Greek.
“I’m guessing that Italians and Jews play each other quite a bit. But what about Italians and Irish?”
There is not a lot of phenotype overlap between the Irish and the Italians. The light Bill O’Reilly types and the blond Denis Leary types vastly outnumber the darker Colin Farrell types in the Irish world.
http://www.businessinsider.com/mark-zuckerbergs-failed-100-million-donation-to-newark-public-schools-2015-9Replies: @jill
Where do you think Cory Booker got his campaign funds from that he used to become Senator? Booker hired friends and family as consultants who passed on their free money to Booker’s campaign.
When Booker was done looting Zuckerberg’s largesse, the tech execs then doubled down and gave Booker an internet company named “Waywire”, which he immediately looted with a large salary and options.
via Epsilon Theory:
Facebook’s Dec. 15 announcement on combating fake news:
Flagging Stories as Disputed
“We believe providing more context can help people decide for themselves what to trust and what to share. We’ve started a program to work with third-party fact checking organizations that are signatories of Poynter’s International Fact Checking Code of Principles. We’ll use the reports from our community, along with other signals, to send stories to these organizations. If the fact checking organizations identify a story as fake, it will get flagged as disputed and there will be a link to the corresponding article explaining why. Stories that have been disputed may also appear lower in News Feed.
In practice this means that four established fiat news institutions — Associated Press, ABC News, the Washington Post, and the Tampa Bay Times (Politifact) — together with a smaller media company, Snopes.com, will share the responsibility for determining what stories are “disputed” and dropped into the memory hole of a lower ranking in News Feed. More fact checkers, particularly more fiat news institutions, will undoubtedly be added to the list, as the process is designed to encourage fiat news institutional participation (The Poynter Institute, developer of the “Fact Checking Code of Principles” at the heart of Facebook’s efforts here, owns the Times Publishing Company, which in turn owns the Tampa Bay Times and Politifact). My sense is that these fact checkers can do a pretty good job of identifying counterfeit news (for example that’s why Snopes.com was started, albeit in an urban legend and email hoax context), but will fail miserably at policing fiat news, for obvious reasons. Not that Facebook cares about the distinction, of course, as they will become the preeminent fiat news provider themselves when all is said and done.”
http://www.salientpartners.com/epsilon-theory/fiat-money-fiat-news/
His Mandarin is horrible. The accent is beyond atrocious. The hard parts of Chinese are the pronunciation and the writing system and he sure hasn’t mastered that.
The goblin-faced manlet whose own employees hate him so much they forced him to take CEO lessons? Yeah, no.
You can stomp your feet all you like, but the Antitheses are extensions of Torah, not repudiation of it. Tikkun Olam especially as now widely practiced, is in fact a departure from Christ’s teachings, but the Jews largely learned that from post-Christian Unitarian types.
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Zuckerberg always reminded me of his ancient kinsman Josephus
It's unlikely to translate to the masses (part of the reason so many of the masses already dislike/distrust him)
http://polymatharchives.blogspot.ca/2015/01/the-inappropriately-excluded.htmlReplies: @EH
Since intelligence determines the difficulty of questions one can be expected to answer correctly, the most difficult questions must be decided by the most intelligent people. (Defining “correctly” as meaning “resulting in the best outcome for a given nation”, so incorporating group loyalty and answering the question “Who, Whom?”) The most difficult questions are the ones where the smallest minority of people are right and everyone else is wrong. Yet the most intelligent cannot directly lead the majority due to being incomprehensible to the majority. So there has to be a hierarchy of intelligence which matches that of power for decisions to be made correctly. Intelligence and power have to go together or the less intelligent will screw up every hard decision, which will result in worse results than any possible alternative course.
Therefore it is absolutely morally required for the most intelligent to to rule everyone, for every less intelligent person to be governed by a more intelligent person, and never to allow a less intelligent person to rule a more intelligent person. “Absolutely required” means just that, a moral imperative that logically outweighs all other possible concerns whatsoever.