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From Raw Story:
Brad Reed
25 APR 2018 AT 11:51 ET
From the New York Post:
De Blasio defends schools chief’s tweet at critics of diversification plan
By Selim Algar, Kevin Fasick and Yoav Gonen April 27, 2018New York’s new schools chief just got a lesson in the three Rs — reading, ’riting and race relations.
Schools Chancellor Richard Carranza ignited the first controversy of his tenure early Friday when he tweeted out a story with the headline “Wealthy white Manhattan parents angrily rant against plan to bring more black kids to their schools.”
The chancellor, who has been in his job for less than a month, spent the rest of the day dealing with the fallout as the post divided parents.
“That’s fueling the fire, and that’s a mistake,” said Joshua Goldberg, a parent of a sixth-grader at the Upper West Side’s MS 245 on West 77th Street.
Middle School 245 is a half block from the American Museum of Natural History on Manhattan’s Upper West Side. That’s pretty pricey The Squid and the Whale territory. The precinct that the school is in appears to have voted 90-7 for Hillary over Trump.
Carranza’s tweet linked to an article on the news site Raw Story. Posted Wednesday, the story recaps an NY1 report on a heated meeting between school officials and a group of mostly white parents over a proposal to diversify Upper West Side middle schools.
The Department of Education proposal calls for reserving 25 percent of seats at 17 middle schools in District 3 for kids who score below grade level on state exams.
Parents have objected to the plan for its impact on school quality, but critics argue their opposition is fueled by class and racial animus because many low-scoring students are black or Hispanic.
This school is currently pretty diverse: 46% white, 26% Hispanic, 17% black, but the nonwhites are exceptionally smart. In English tests, both the Hispanics and blacks score above the state average for whites. (Obviously, the white kids in this incredibly wealthy neighborhood average even higher.) So it’s a nice bubble for wealthy liberal white families.
Here’s the Zillow map for 3+ bedroom homes (mostly apartments, I imagine) near MS 245. It looks like 3+ BR places near the school run from $2.5 million to $20 million or so.
The Raw Story article includes NY1’s video of the meeting, which was held Tuesday at PS 199.
“You’re talking about an 11-year-old, ‘You worked your butt off, and you didn’t get that, what you needed or wanted,’ ” one woman rails in the meeting. “You’re telling them, ‘You’re going to go to a school that’s not going to educate you in the same way you’ve been educated. Life sucks!’ ”
Asked on Friday whether he agrees that it’s a race issue, Carranza tried to have it both ways.
“I don’t know. I haven’t had those conversations with the folks. Again, I will say that the video speaks for itself. I didn’t write the words. I retweeted the report,” he said during a stop in Harlem.
“This has been a conversation that’s been everywhere, so I’m glad we’re having the conversation,” added Carranza, who is Mexican-American. “But I will say very strongly that as the chancellor of schools in New York City, I am who I am, and I’ve lived the life I’ve lived, and I am a man of color.”
Indeed, while many prominent Hispanic People of Color are blue-blooded Conquistador-Americans, Carranza looks like a member of Los Lobos.
And the Tucson native takes pride in being a mariachi musician in his spare time.
But you have to wonder if his heretofore glorious career climb up the superintendent ladder in Las Vegas, San Francisco (where rich people all send their kids to private schools, so nobody much cares how terrible the public schools are there), and humble Houston has fully prepared him for the shark tank that is the Upper West Side.
Welcome to the Big Leagues, rookie!
I think that the problem isn’t racial animus, it’s mental dullness animus. The parents don’t want their kids in with dumb kids where the class will by force of necessity have to be dumbed down and slowed down and most of the teacher’s time spent with the remedial kids.
It would be helpful if someone could quantify this: In that neighborhood what would the average white kid’s IQ be, and what would the effect be of letting the top 25 percent of the poor kids in? What is their average IQ? How would that affect the teaching, exactly? Whatever is wrong with the mental ability of the poor kids, it’s not going to be fixed in the first week of a diverse class, so everyone suffers.
I love the guy who talks about giving $5,000 worth of tutoring to each poor kid, as though that is the problem and things would be equalized. Test tutoring is mostly a placebo even for rich kids, but it would have zero effect on poor kids. You don’t torture naturally poor musicians and athletes by forcing them to take tutoring. This is like gay conversion therapy.
As far as diversity goes, the way it was done in my high school in Los Angeles in the early 1970s was that a few black kids were bussed in, and then everyone was tracked according to his ability in academic classes. You had a few black kids in the smart classes, but mostly they were in the normal classes. The diversity happened on the athletic field, the band, orchestra, choir, and drama classes, home ec and shop, and places like that. You didn’t try to mix people with different brain power in cognitive classes. People made friends in those classes. It left the black kids who were dumb with some self respect, since they weren’t forced into classes where they would not do well, in front of everyone else. Common sense. We no longer have that. Of course we no longer have a lot of these non-academic classes anymore.
Tracking fell out of favor in academic circles in the subsequent decades after the civil rights era but appears to be making a minor comeback.Replies: @Big Bill
Black kids are dangerous. There is also the noise factor. Blacks don’t talk, they scream. Try being stuck listening to black screaming and jibber jabber all day
Black kids can be more dangerous than adults. They beat assault sexual harass and rob White and Asian kids, not just in school but walking and riding the city bus to and from school.
Only good thing about the Hispanic invasion is that Hispanic kids are allowed to defend themselves against blacks without being sent to prison for racism.
Hispanic kids often drop out of school at 15 it so because the parents send them to work. Contrast that with the black k drop outs who hang around the school all day causing trouble.
The Hispanic kids behave about the same as the Whites, generally pretty civilized. And they accept a teachers order to be quiet, stand in line like a civilized person, walk, not run and rampage through the halls.
If bored they just sit there and doodle or daydream whatever instead of throwing chairs and attacking teachers and students as the blacks do.
Saw something on drudge recently that the teachers union claims that 10,000 NYC employees were physically assaulted by the students last year. Of course the article didn’t mention most of the attackers are black.
When Hispanic kids are suspended or whatever the parents don’t call up the local preacher to foment a riot and bring TV and print media to rant and rave that black kids should be able to rampage around, beat, sexually harass, rob and abuse teachers and students while screeching at the top of their lungs all day long.
I’ve learned the facts I’ve presented from teachers who survived the transition from 80 percent black schools to 90 percent Hispanic schools.
Why do you think the teachers unions are so pro immigration? It’s not just to increase their client base. It’s also because the Asian and Hispanic invaders aren’t a threat to the physical safety of school staff, speak in normal voice level and don’t insert mother lover f**k and n****r into every garbled gobbled incoherent sentence fragment.
Speak with teachers and people who went to school with blacks before you make comments that it’s all about IQ
The IQ and dumbing down argument is just a facade to cover up the fact that Whites, Asians Hispanics and others don’t want their kids exposed to black noise and verbal and physical abuse 5 days a week for their entire childhood.
This guy went to University of Arizona, but subsequently did his higher level stuff at — Northern Arizona University. And now he’s running the New York City Public Schools.
Do you think anybody on the Upper West Side is wondering if nobody from MIT or Harvard or Princeton wanted this job? Isn’t school snobbery supposed to make sense for jobs like this?
Gore Vidal said that the mastery of a foreign language was the traditional hallmark of a liberal education. I see no reference in Carranza’s wiki page to any later introduction and scholarly struggle to become fluent in a foreign tongue that took him outside his experiences.
By my day you might settle for decent French, a reading knowledge of German, and a bit of Latin.
Obviously, the Mexican who went to Northern Arizona got the job as an affirmative-action gig...Replies: @J.Ross
From the naive perspective, why couldn't Wilhelm find a capable leader who came up in the NYC system and knows its ins and outs?
Indeed, Carranza looks like a member of Los Lobos. And the Tucson native takes pride in being a mariachi musician in his spare time.
If he's serious about it, this is a plus. Tucson mariachi music is serious business.
I hope they get screwed. Rich people assume that the policies they apply to the lower classes won’t affect them, and then get to claim moral superiority while their kids are all unaffected because of private schools or things like Manhattan’s school system. If you hang out in a private golf club, your kids go to private school, diversity just means lower greens fees.
But this should concern the Manhattan rich too, as these families are the buffer that keeps their neighborhoods as nice as they are.Replies: @J.Ross, @Excal, @Alden
I have been to a few dinner parties where after a few bottles of wine, arguments have broken out over this very school district. Not exactly chair throwing fights, but the Extremely Upper Middle Class Jewish version of chair throwing fights, if such a thing exists.
Basically, my richest friends have bought homes in this Upper West Side District and then virtue signal to their merely affluent friends that they send their children to NEW YORK CITY PUBLIC SCHOOLS!!! because of their commitment to diversity and equity. My friends who live in merely affluent neighborhoods, but not one affluent enough to have excellent public schools, then explode in anger to the accusation that the merely affluent parents are not fully committed to public schooling, diversity and equity because they send their children to Jewish schools or private schools.
Because I have a screw loose in my head, I invariably point out that the most affluent only embrace public school education because they are rich enough to buy into one of the five public school districts in New York City with excellent schools. Stating this obvious truism, then makes me the enemy of everyone and I am not invited to the next dinner party.
You sound like a fun person to go to dinner parties with. Really.
http://hitchensblog.mailonsunday.co.uk/2013/03/nick-clegg-claims-his-sons-new-school-is-a-comprehensive-thats-like-calling-no-10-an-inner-city-terrace.html
I just talked to a Norwegian guy a few hours ago, and we quickly got into a big discussion about the general immigration issue. I can't remember who even started it, but the guy was just clueless, and I had to go through some of the basics. I doubt he learned anything, but at least he knows there are people out there that don't agree with his Lyin-Press-induced BS opinions.
I am assuming your wife wasn't there at the dinner party, is that right? Mine gets so upset when I challenge anyone on any political thing. I held my tongue at the zoo recently, but man, if my wife wasn't there ....Replies: @Alden
Blacks move to the neighborhood and were bussed into the schools. By the time Howard was in 6 grade it was bad and high school was a nightmare.
His parents were typical greatest generation Roosevelt worshipping liberal Jews. Because they loved blacks so much thy refused to join the exodus to Lon GGilun. Howard resents his parents to this day for the horrors he was subjected to in high school. He wrote several times that the only reason he survived is that he’s 6’4.
And of course it’s never one on one with blacks. It’s 3 to 6 blacks against 1 person of another race.Replies: @Dave Pinsen
It would be helpful if someone could quantify this: In that neighborhood what would the average white kid's IQ be, and what would the effect be of letting the top 25 percent of the poor kids in? What is their average IQ? How would that affect the teaching, exactly? Whatever is wrong with the mental ability of the poor kids, it's not going to be fixed in the first week of a diverse class, so everyone suffers.
I love the guy who talks about giving $5,000 worth of tutoring to each poor kid, as though that is the problem and things would be equalized. Test tutoring is mostly a placebo even for rich kids, but it would have zero effect on poor kids. You don't torture naturally poor musicians and athletes by forcing them to take tutoring. This is like gay conversion therapy.
As far as diversity goes, the way it was done in my high school in Los Angeles in the early 1970s was that a few black kids were bussed in, and then everyone was tracked according to his ability in academic classes. You had a few black kids in the smart classes, but mostly they were in the normal classes. The diversity happened on the athletic field, the band, orchestra, choir, and drama classes, home ec and shop, and places like that. You didn't try to mix people with different brain power in cognitive classes. People made friends in those classes. It left the black kids who were dumb with some self respect, since they weren't forced into classes where they would not do well, in front of everyone else. Common sense. We no longer have that. Of course we no longer have a lot of these non-academic classes anymore.Replies: @Mishra, @Jack D, @Ed, @Alden, @Dissident
My high school in über-progressive (and naturally über-smug) Montgomery County Maryland tried this sort of mixing. It was an unqualified disaster, which of course means they then doubled down on it.
They won’t get screwed, these are the people with the means to go private or move.
They wouldn’t dare try that in the Upper East Side.
Public schools don’t even enter the consciousness in that neighborhood.
These parents may look rich on paper, from a national perspective, but from a Manhattan perspective their status is probably perilous. If they were Manhattan rich, their kids would be in private schools already. They’ve been walking a tight rope to live in one of the best neighborhoods in America while keeping their kids in good schools; this threatens to knock them off, hence the anger in the meeting.
But this should concern the Manhattan rich too, as these families are the buffer that keeps their neighborhoods as nice as they are.
No Steve, you’re living in the past. Its more like “Welcome to Lagos on the Hudson, Yuppie Scum!”
NYC is a hell-hole of Third World peoples who keep coming and coming, and bringing the Third Word with them, and a bunch of super-rich who don’t really live there but park their assets in the Five Boroughs for safekeeping.
This demographic reality is what got Bill DeBlackio elected and has guaranteed his re-election. This is not Rudy’s city, it is not even Bloomberg’s city. Its a city of Russian, Chinese, and Saudi billionaires plus the Third World scum. The Yuppie West Siders are as stupid and doomed as the nice White ladies in Britain who voted for rape gangs and “grooming” and other joys of diversity.
All are going to get exactly what they wanted, good and hard.
My guess is that NYC enacts a “White a Bloc” law mandating kids be sent to Black/Hispanic slum schools with no exceptions for private schooling or even tutoring. That won’t bother the Russian, Chinese, and Saudi oligarchs parking their billions there as their kids are likely to be sent to private schools in Switzerland or New Zealand or someplace else away from the Upper Middle Class who (irony alert) they in their billions view as scum. Obviously since “White ain’t allright” according to our poet laureate the Judges who really run this country will uphold a “White a Bloc” rule and the extensions coming.
Once it is the law of the land that White kids must be forced to go to school in nearly all Black slums (to get the hell beat out of them daily if they are boys, teen pregnancy for girls there is a lesson here on the relative risks boys and girls face from conquerors) it will be extended to other areas. A “White a Bloc” for say, South Central, or Harlem, or Detroit. Call it a draft and of course the denizens of blight like Malibu, West Palm Beach, and Palos Verdes will be exempt just the rich could buy their way out of the draft in 1862. The NBA and Rap music however will be exempt save for tokens Kevin Love and Eminem.
Really there is no limit to a White a Bloc draft when you think about it — its a great way for the oligarchs (Judges and billionaires who really rule this nation) to enserf the average White guy — someone is going to have to pay for all the Third Worlders and it wont’ be Zuck!
Silly rabbit, forced integration is for the little people.
The zip code that includes the American Museum of Natural History (and Zabar's, FWIW) is 10024. ZipWho lists it as 77.5% white, which, anecdotally, seems too low. Typically, the only NAMs you see in that neighborhood on a weekend afternoon are nannies and delivery men.Replies: @Dave, @Jack D, @Alden, @Simon
It’s great for the rest of Los Angeles
The blacks used to drive up the freeways, get off and rob, rape and burglarize as much as they desired.
But the Hispanics have a much lower crime rate and don’t view the freeway as a convenient road to attack Whites.
But this should concern the Manhattan rich too, as these families are the buffer that keeps their neighborhoods as nice as they are.Replies: @J.Ross, @Excal, @Alden
Some communities just need to die and make room for more vibrant and energetic replacements.
Well, the left doesn’t believe in IQ anyways, so those new kids should be brought right up to snuff with all the resources of those nice UWS schools, in a jiffy. I don’t see the problem, unless these wealthy parents are racist or something.
Did anyone catch the Correspondent’s Dinner? If the GOP doesn’t somehow incorporate that into an attack ad then there even stupider than I thought.
I'm not saying this because I disagree with her politics. When Obama spoke at the dinner a few years ago, he was actually funny and had decent delivery. Even Stephen Colbert, who's generally only mildly funny, is much better than her.
The problem wasn't that Michelle Wolf was "mean." Most of the people who speak at these dinners are "mean."
The problem was that the delivery was off. A lot of the "jokes" were strange or incomprehensible. The audience, which definitely was not full of Trump-friendly individuals, spent much of the time in awkward silence and cringed at quite a few of the jokes.
Watch here. You can start at 35 seconds. If you watch from 4:03 to 4:15, she tells a fairly crude joke.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L8IYPnnsYJw
There are funny liberals who hate Trump. She's not one of them. I don't know who the hell selected her.Replies: @JohnnyWalker123, @DCThrowback, @Jack D, @Canadian Observer, @Mr. Anon, @The Last Real Calvinist
Follow-up, I made uninformed assumptions and wrote this before I saw Dave Pinsen’s comment. But yeah these people can move, and your kids’ education is a major reason for moving.
Slightly OT, but I recently read that Malibu mansion prices are spiking.
https://www.mansionglobal.com/articles/95282-malibu-real-estate-market-spikes
As has been suggested here before, Trump should propose some kind of affordable housing there for dreamers or something.
No matter how stupid you thought the GOP is……………they are stupider.
Thanks for the report, Steve. It’s nice to occasionally catch up on what goes on in that foreign country called New York City.
These days, even my own local city is beggining to have the demographics of a foreign country.
If someone from the 80s built a time machine and visited the year 2018, they wouldn't believe what they were seeing.Replies: @Bleuteaux
‘You’re going to go to a school that’s not going to educate you in the same way you’ve been educated. Life sucks!’ ” Is she taking about Special ed?
If I had to guess what was going on, the problem is special education not Blacks. It’s possible the woman who’s going off kilter is a wealthier white mother who’s special ed kid gets a top tier, one on one, tutor for their child. When they bring in a bunch of special ed kids from a less well served school her son will go from one on one tutoring to a class with 3 or 5 other special kids. One of the special ed kids could have behavioral problems that disrupt the class on a regular basis.
This might be a hint of the start of a financial crisis, the financing of the global war on terror with debt may finally be catching up with even the wealthiest people.
It is not clear why they are bringing up blacks other than to imply opposition to the plan as racist. My guess is that black parents of kids at the school are not happy either.
Silly (cough) white people. Don’t they know that diversity is a gift?
In fact, it’s the most wonderful gift of all! Soon, we will all be swamped in it. They will be nowhere to run. (Not that we’d ever want to run away from such a glorious gift.)
Just a thought.
For the most part, Michelle Wolf was unfunny. She had a few good moments, but it was generally difficult to watch her performance. I don’t understand how she’s a professional comedian.
I’m not saying this because I disagree with her politics. When Obama spoke at the dinner a few years ago, he was actually funny and had decent delivery. Even Stephen Colbert, who’s generally only mildly funny, is much better than her.
The problem wasn’t that Michelle Wolf was “mean.” Most of the people who speak at these dinners are “mean.”
The problem was that the delivery was off. A lot of the “jokes” were strange or incomprehensible. The audience, which definitely was not full of Trump-friendly individuals, spent much of the time in awkward silence and cringed at quite a few of the jokes.
Watch here. You can start at 35 seconds. If you watch from 4:03 to 4:15, she tells a fairly crude joke.
There are funny liberals who hate Trump. She’s not one of them. I don’t know who the hell selected her.
I think, in general, female comedians are a lot less funny than men. Mostly because when they tell jokes, it's almost like they seem full of hurt and self-pity. When female comedians are talking, it's often hard to tell if they're joking or looking for sympathy. It can be uncomfortable to watch them.
Men are just naturally better at comedy.
In Michelle Wolf's case, she was unfunny by even the low standards of female comedians.Replies: @Corn, @Lot, @Mr. Anon
What is happening to the accents of younger Americans? Nasal vocal quality, uptalking -- not to mention the overspreading of the entire vernacular by the kudzu-esque vulgarity that is 'like'.Replies: @Art Deco
These days, large swathes of America seem like foreign countries.
These days, even my own local city is beggining to have the demographics of a foreign country.
If someone from the 80s built a time machine and visited the year 2018, they wouldn’t believe what they were seeing.
I'm not saying this because I disagree with her politics. When Obama spoke at the dinner a few years ago, he was actually funny and had decent delivery. Even Stephen Colbert, who's generally only mildly funny, is much better than her.
The problem wasn't that Michelle Wolf was "mean." Most of the people who speak at these dinners are "mean."
The problem was that the delivery was off. A lot of the "jokes" were strange or incomprehensible. The audience, which definitely was not full of Trump-friendly individuals, spent much of the time in awkward silence and cringed at quite a few of the jokes.
Watch here. You can start at 35 seconds. If you watch from 4:03 to 4:15, she tells a fairly crude joke.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L8IYPnnsYJw
There are funny liberals who hate Trump. She's not one of them. I don't know who the hell selected her.Replies: @JohnnyWalker123, @DCThrowback, @Jack D, @Canadian Observer, @Mr. Anon, @The Last Real Calvinist
They could’ve chosen Bill Maher or Seth McFarlane. You can disagree with their politics, but they’re pretty funny at times.
I think, in general, female comedians are a lot less funny than men. Mostly because when they tell jokes, it’s almost like they seem full of hurt and self-pity. When female comedians are talking, it’s often hard to tell if they’re joking or looking for sympathy. It can be uncomfortable to watch them.
Men are just naturally better at comedy.
In Michelle Wolf’s case, she was unfunny by even the low standards of female comedians.
How long until the option to send your kids to private schools is taken away? Rich people may have outsized influence. And whites with children may be able to vote out politicians at this point. But those days are coming to a close. Pretty soon angry blacks and Hispanics will be the ones voting out politicians, and I foresee a day when the education of kids is decided by the state, not by parents. Non-white parents will be pissed that whites are able to escape the public schools and will see that the politicians put an end to that by regulating charters more strictly.
The only hope that I can see is that religious schools will be found to be constitutionally protected, and there will be a sudden increase in religiosity (as with so many atheist Jews who send their kids to Jewish schools now).
But what if vouchers are given that can be used at, say, Jewish schools, and black parents want their kids to go there? What if they claim to identify as Jewish? In this day and age, why not?
Once whites are clearly in the minority I foresee a post-Vichy France sort of metaphorical pogrom on whites. It’s going to be very nasty. Want a jury of your peers? They’re all going to be black and Mexican.
San Francisco tech billionaires will be happy to comply with new laws mandating they send their scions to public schools run by aging incompetents appointed by Willie Brown when he was mayor.
That will happen right after Dalton and Horace Mann in NYC are shut down.
Basically, my richest friends have bought homes in this Upper West Side District and then virtue signal to their merely affluent friends that they send their children to NEW YORK CITY PUBLIC SCHOOLS!!! because of their commitment to diversity and equity. My friends who live in merely affluent neighborhoods, but not one affluent enough to have excellent public schools, then explode in anger to the accusation that the merely affluent parents are not fully committed to public schooling, diversity and equity because they send their children to Jewish schools or private schools.
Because I have a screw loose in my head, I invariably point out that the most affluent only embrace public school education because they are rich enough to buy into one of the five public school districts in New York City with excellent schools. Stating this obvious truism, then makes me the enemy of everyone and I am not invited to the next dinner party.Replies: @AndrewR, @Anonym, @Almost Missouri, @Anonymous, @Yak-15, @Achmed E. Newman, @Hunsdon, @Alden, @ThirdWorldSteveReader
Saying that doesn’t mean you have a screw loose. I would say it shows you have integrity and a tendency to cut through dishonesty.
People never mention the damage to White Boys’ self-esteem from sport. NAMs mature earlier & sport is important at that age: they can’t compete on a level.
Basically, my richest friends have bought homes in this Upper West Side District and then virtue signal to their merely affluent friends that they send their children to NEW YORK CITY PUBLIC SCHOOLS!!! because of their commitment to diversity and equity. My friends who live in merely affluent neighborhoods, but not one affluent enough to have excellent public schools, then explode in anger to the accusation that the merely affluent parents are not fully committed to public schooling, diversity and equity because they send their children to Jewish schools or private schools.
Because I have a screw loose in my head, I invariably point out that the most affluent only embrace public school education because they are rich enough to buy into one of the five public school districts in New York City with excellent schools. Stating this obvious truism, then makes me the enemy of everyone and I am not invited to the next dinner party.Replies: @AndrewR, @Anonym, @Almost Missouri, @Anonymous, @Yak-15, @Achmed E. Newman, @Hunsdon, @Alden, @ThirdWorldSteveReader
Because I have a screw loose in my head, I invariably point out that the most affluent only embrace public school education because they are rich enough to buy into one of the five public school districts in New York City with excellent schools. Stating this obvious truism, then makes me the enemy of everyone and I am not invited to the next dinner party.
You sound like a fun person to go to dinner parties with. Really.
Do you think anybody on the Upper West Side is wondering if nobody from MIT or Harvard or Princeton wanted this job? Isn't school snobbery supposed to make sense for jobs like this?
Gore Vidal said that the mastery of a foreign language was the traditional hallmark of a liberal education. I see no reference in Carranza's wiki page to any later introduction and scholarly struggle to become fluent in a foreign tongue that took him outside his experiences.Replies: @27 year old, @dearieme, @Bugg, @Dr. X, @Lugash
He has learned the English language to a moderately competent level.
Do you think anybody on the Upper West Side is wondering if nobody from MIT or Harvard or Princeton wanted this job? Isn't school snobbery supposed to make sense for jobs like this?
Gore Vidal said that the mastery of a foreign language was the traditional hallmark of a liberal education. I see no reference in Carranza's wiki page to any later introduction and scholarly struggle to become fluent in a foreign tongue that took him outside his experiences.Replies: @27 year old, @dearieme, @Bugg, @Dr. X, @Lugash
“Gore Vidal said that the mastery of a foreign language was the traditional hallmark of a liberal education.” Good God, how defeatist. Mastery of Greek, Latin, and French used to be the hallmark.
By my day you might settle for decent French, a reading knowledge of German, and a bit of Latin.
Basically, my richest friends have bought homes in this Upper West Side District and then virtue signal to their merely affluent friends that they send their children to NEW YORK CITY PUBLIC SCHOOLS!!! because of their commitment to diversity and equity. My friends who live in merely affluent neighborhoods, but not one affluent enough to have excellent public schools, then explode in anger to the accusation that the merely affluent parents are not fully committed to public schooling, diversity and equity because they send their children to Jewish schools or private schools.
Because I have a screw loose in my head, I invariably point out that the most affluent only embrace public school education because they are rich enough to buy into one of the five public school districts in New York City with excellent schools. Stating this obvious truism, then makes me the enemy of everyone and I am not invited to the next dinner party.Replies: @AndrewR, @Anonym, @Almost Missouri, @Anonymous, @Yak-15, @Achmed E. Newman, @Hunsdon, @Alden, @ThirdWorldSteveReader
Hey, you sound like the kind of guy I want at my dinner parties!
Humble Houston, merely the fourth largest metro in the US, worldwide headquarters of boutique industries such as oil and gas, once the capital of an independent nation, home of billionaires and ex presidents, humble quaint Houston.
There, FIFH. No, no charge, Josh.
It’s made certain that a couple of themes get reinforced in case anyone missed it, emphasizing “wealthy” (bad) and “white”(bad) for a double-plus bad effect. They’re thus identified as the enemy who need to be overcome. That they’re probably not the real wealthy isn’t important since it’s a relative term anyway; they’re wealthy compared to career welfare recipients.
It isn’t necessarily just a matter of the affirmative types being academically deficient and thus holding things back. It’s also behavioral differences resulting in more disruption, bullying, discipline problems with worries about disparate rates of suspension and so on. Who really needs the headache? The parents are probably paying taxes through the nose yet are seeing whatever benefits they get being taken away even as the black-browns get a free ride for everything. Another aspect seems to be that political ideologues have more say-so over other people’s children than the parents themselves as if they’re the property of the state. This is a direction in which we’re headed if we’re not careful.
From what I understand the religious schools ( Catholic and conservative Protestant) do not teach any religious values or doctrine today other than inclusion and diversity. How much longer can they maintain any intellectual rigor, if they still do anything beside SWJ ship?
Schools that call themselves Christian schools are conservative Protestants. They are the only ones
But they are only conservative in that they teach the old time “Jesus is my Lord and Savior”. “ The bible is true” etc. they are still against abortion. They keep quiet about gay issues.
But they are totally pro immigration and socialist economics and help th poor minorities help the poor miniritues etc.
The Christian schools in the south west often have sister schools in Mexico. The American kids sent clothes, toys and big Christmas packages and packages of back to school clothes to the Mexican kids. They also sponsor Mexican “ refugees”
I forget if the catholic or Christian schools started that.
“I remember my old German teacher, Mr. Klink, back before they integrated Stalag PS 13 …”
I know it’s been that way for a long time, but why do NY City public schools use numbers to identify themselves? It makes them sound like
prisons, excuse me, correctional facilities… wait …And that will be the beginning of the end of the multicultural scheme. You don’t mess with people’s kids. In 1970, desegregation busing seemed like the logical consequence of the civil rights laws, so they tried it, but by 1990 desegregation was a dead letter. Whites were just not going to put up with it, no matter what. They used whatever safety valve they could find to get their kids out of it, usually moving out of the city. Those bused white kids probably constitute the vanguard of the alt right now.
If they try to close all the safety valves with some kind of federal law, it will not be tolerated. It isn’t going to matter whether whites are in the minority. It will not be tolerated.
Do you think anybody on the Upper West Side is wondering if nobody from MIT or Harvard or Princeton wanted this job? Isn't school snobbery supposed to make sense for jobs like this?
Gore Vidal said that the mastery of a foreign language was the traditional hallmark of a liberal education. I see no reference in Carranza's wiki page to any later introduction and scholarly struggle to become fluent in a foreign tongue that took him outside his experiences.Replies: @27 year old, @dearieme, @Bugg, @Dr. X, @Lugash
The office of NYC schools chancellor has usually been filed by someone who had a clue because it is an important job. No mayor wants to have a dolt running his school system.For the longest time in the 1970s and 1980s under Koch it was a smart guy from Brooklyn named Frank Macchariola. Under Rudy Guiliani, it was a very capable educator named Rudy Crew who happened to be a black guy. Under Bloomberg it was a white shoe lawyer named Joel Klein. But under Dinkins and now Deblasio that job has to go to a person of color no matter what, competence be damned. This despite the fact there are a lot of very talented NYC principals who know the system and could do a much better job. And Carranza is OF COURSE the result of a supposed nationwide search for the best and brightest. Liberals LOVE the vaunted nationwide search. He only got the job when the Cuban-American superintendent of Miami’s schools got cold feet after dealing with the incompetence of Diblasio for about 5 minutes,and Crew also begged off, probably for much the same reasons. Suspect Carranza also got the job because Diblasio figures he’ll be compliant with his own brand of liberal idiocy since he doesn’t know his way around and probably won’t figure it out by the time his term ends.
Used to go to a Mexican restaurant that featured a mariachi band playing that one very annoying song while you’re trying to eat nachos without making a mess. If the could play “Run To The Hills” or “7 Nation Army”, might tolerate that. But that same annoying song, begging for tips, no thanks. One more strike against Carranza.
As an outer boro Irish guy, if only we could bottle and sell the delicious tears of the conflicted goodwhite liberals.
I'm not saying this because I disagree with her politics. When Obama spoke at the dinner a few years ago, he was actually funny and had decent delivery. Even Stephen Colbert, who's generally only mildly funny, is much better than her.
The problem wasn't that Michelle Wolf was "mean." Most of the people who speak at these dinners are "mean."
The problem was that the delivery was off. A lot of the "jokes" were strange or incomprehensible. The audience, which definitely was not full of Trump-friendly individuals, spent much of the time in awkward silence and cringed at quite a few of the jokes.
Watch here. You can start at 35 seconds. If you watch from 4:03 to 4:15, she tells a fairly crude joke.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L8IYPnnsYJw
There are funny liberals who hate Trump. She's not one of them. I don't know who the hell selected her.Replies: @JohnnyWalker123, @DCThrowback, @Jack D, @Canadian Observer, @Mr. Anon, @The Last Real Calvinist
She seems pretty self-aware to me, but yeah, it then goes off the rails around 4 minute mark & she can’t get it back.
I really enjoy watching this kind of thing. Thanks, Steve, for finding and putting up this video. I know the whole educational admissions, placement, good-vs-bad schools, and struggles-by-the-yuppie parents business is a big interest of yours, and I see you as an expert.
I guess it’s the yellow fever coming out here, but I kinda like that soft-spoken Oriental girl on the panel in front of the room. In fact, maybe she never said anything … I’m in Luvvvvv…
Do you think anybody on the Upper West Side is wondering if nobody from MIT or Harvard or Princeton wanted this job? Isn't school snobbery supposed to make sense for jobs like this?
Gore Vidal said that the mastery of a foreign language was the traditional hallmark of a liberal education. I see no reference in Carranza's wiki page to any later introduction and scholarly struggle to become fluent in a foreign tongue that took him outside his experiences.Replies: @27 year old, @dearieme, @Bugg, @Dr. X, @Lugash
I don’t know about MIT (do they produce a lot of education graduates?) but I’m sure that there are plenty of Harvard an Princeton (and NYU and Columbia) people who would have taken the job.
Obviously, the Mexican who went to Northern Arizona got the job as an affirmative-action gig…
“This school is currently pretty diverse: 46% white, 26% Hispanic, 17% black, but the nonwhites are exceptionally smart. In English tests, both the Hispanics and blacks score above the state average for whites. So it’s a nice bubble for wealthy liberal white families.”
Statistic points out something neither liberals nor conservatives want to discuss; the most important variable in a child’s educational success is not necessarily a good school but more likely his or her parents. Parents seek out better schools. Parents investigate when they buy or rent a home what the zoned district school is for a specific address. Or at least gets an address to get mail allowing the child to go to a good zoned school and avoid a bad one. And said parents make sure the child is doing homework and studying, and going to parents/teacher nights, and being involved in every aspect of their kid’s education.
What the goodwhites fear but can never say out loud is they do not want their childrens’ schools to face an influx of low class minorities who’s usually single parent do not share those values. Those kids are disruptive and do not value education because their mom views school as little more than a babysitting service. No one has a problem with Caribbean kids with hard working helicopter parents(think Colin Powell or Sean Combs) but American black project dwellers who go home to nonworking single parent criminality and dysfunction(think Sean Carter) no thanks.
will they reserve 25% of the seats at Stuyvesant high school for kids who score just average on state exams. ? Stuyvesant students deserve the benefits of diversity too.
Stuyvesant High School accepted just 9 black eighth graders for the upcoming school year, In total, just 1% percent of the admissions offers for Stuyvesant seats went to Black students….How does New York City allow Stuyvesant High to keep out Blacks and Latino Students ? How long can this continue ? Will the new chancellor address the lack of diversity at the best public schools in NYC ?
I think, in general, female comedians are a lot less funny than men. Mostly because when they tell jokes, it's almost like they seem full of hurt and self-pity. When female comedians are talking, it's often hard to tell if they're joking or looking for sympathy. It can be uncomfortable to watch them.
Men are just naturally better at comedy.
In Michelle Wolf's case, she was unfunny by even the low standards of female comedians.Replies: @Corn, @Lot, @Mr. Anon
IMO male comics often come across as bitter bastards. Female comics tend to come across as neurotic sluts.
I wouldn’t be surprised if in the next decade a few blue states outright ban homeschooling, as some European nations have already done.
KKK pressured legislators in many states to propose laws requiring all children to attend public schools. Legislators resisted. Ballot referendums banning non public school were put to the vote in many states but didn’t pass.
It’s a forgotten phase in American history.
there was another bad homeschooling bill that went down earlier in the week, too. AB2926.
Restricting homeschooling isn't worth it for the left. It brings down way too much heat. And, I suspect, plenty of them have relatives that do it. Heck, there's legislators that homeschool their own kids.
Basically, my richest friends have bought homes in this Upper West Side District and then virtue signal to their merely affluent friends that they send their children to NEW YORK CITY PUBLIC SCHOOLS!!! because of their commitment to diversity and equity. My friends who live in merely affluent neighborhoods, but not one affluent enough to have excellent public schools, then explode in anger to the accusation that the merely affluent parents are not fully committed to public schooling, diversity and equity because they send their children to Jewish schools or private schools.
Because I have a screw loose in my head, I invariably point out that the most affluent only embrace public school education because they are rich enough to buy into one of the five public school districts in New York City with excellent schools. Stating this obvious truism, then makes me the enemy of everyone and I am not invited to the next dinner party.Replies: @AndrewR, @Anonym, @Almost Missouri, @Anonymous, @Yak-15, @Achmed E. Newman, @Hunsdon, @Alden, @ThirdWorldSteveReader
Basically, my richest friends have bought homes in this Upper West Side District and then virtue signal to their merely affluent friends that they send their children to NEW YORK CITY PUBLIC SCHOOLS!!! because of their commitment to diversity and equity.
http://hitchensblog.mailonsunday.co.uk/2013/03/nick-clegg-claims-his-sons-new-school-is-a-comprehensive-thats-like-calling-no-10-an-inner-city-terrace.html
These days, even my own local city is beggining to have the demographics of a foreign country.
If someone from the 80s built a time machine and visited the year 2018, they wouldn't believe what they were seeing.Replies: @Bleuteaux
I’ve said before, I live in a moderate sized town in the Midwest, moved here about ten years ago. Thanks to H1-B’s, the area has apparently gone from zero Indians to something like 20% Indians in the span of about two decades. To the locals, it is just unreal.
Montgomery County was not always like this, with one-percenters in Chevy Chase and Bethesda and largely third-world Tower of Babel elsewhere. It was largely just middle class south of Gaithersburg and farmland north, from Germantown to Damascus.
My dad was director of planning for MCPS and oversaw all of the schools. He was recruited from Columbia University in either the late 50’s or early 60’s down to MCPS. Prior to that he taught in UWS schools and prior to that was teacher at Palo Alto High School (he bought a house overlooking the Stanford Univ. golf course for $8k!). Some of his students at Paly were people like the late billionaire Jon Huntsman, Sr. and his brother Blake. Prior to teaching my dad was Army Infrantry in WWII and saw heavy action (General Buckner and Ernie Pyle both died with his division) and received lots of medals. He never talked about it and never told anyone he was in the service or war unless someone pressed on him. Anyway, he always said that the quality of the school was not that important as the bright students would excel and get a lot out of any school no matter where they went. And most of these bright students learn on their own anyway.
My dad had decades of experience in public education and the teachers working in public education. He sent all of his kids to parochial and private schools. And this was decades ago when things were radically better than they are today.
It would be helpful if someone could quantify this: In that neighborhood what would the average white kid's IQ be, and what would the effect be of letting the top 25 percent of the poor kids in? What is their average IQ? How would that affect the teaching, exactly? Whatever is wrong with the mental ability of the poor kids, it's not going to be fixed in the first week of a diverse class, so everyone suffers.
I love the guy who talks about giving $5,000 worth of tutoring to each poor kid, as though that is the problem and things would be equalized. Test tutoring is mostly a placebo even for rich kids, but it would have zero effect on poor kids. You don't torture naturally poor musicians and athletes by forcing them to take tutoring. This is like gay conversion therapy.
As far as diversity goes, the way it was done in my high school in Los Angeles in the early 1970s was that a few black kids were bussed in, and then everyone was tracked according to his ability in academic classes. You had a few black kids in the smart classes, but mostly they were in the normal classes. The diversity happened on the athletic field, the band, orchestra, choir, and drama classes, home ec and shop, and places like that. You didn't try to mix people with different brain power in cognitive classes. People made friends in those classes. It left the black kids who were dumb with some self respect, since they weren't forced into classes where they would not do well, in front of everyone else. Common sense. We no longer have that. Of course we no longer have a lot of these non-academic classes anymore.Replies: @Mishra, @Jack D, @Ed, @Alden, @Dissident
Racial animus and mental dullness animus are the same thing when it comes to blacks due to the 1 SD average difference in IQ.
Here is are the superimposed distributions in the US:
(BTW, an interesting artifact of the curve is that there are about equal numbers of really dumb white people and really dumb blacks in this country).
And here are the demographics of Stuyvesant High School, a rigorous admission by test public school in NY:
http://schools.nyc.gov/SchoolPortals/02/M475/AboutUs/Statistics/register.htm
Blacks are .69% of the enrollment.
Figure that on the Upper West Side the average white kid (some combination of Ashkenazi/WASP/Asian, sometimes all in the same person) has an IQ of around 115. For every one black with an IQ of 115 there are maybe 1,000 white people. In NYC the odds would be a little better – let’s say it’s 50 to 1 (which is an overstatement, but let’s go with it). That would mean 0 or 1 black kids in every elementary school class, not 25%. There just aren’t that many high IQ blacks around. The few that there are, are fought over with scholarships to prestigious private schools looking to boost their diversity credentials. Most of the time they are not even Michelle Obama (American slave descendant) blacks anyway, they are Barack type blacks (half white and raised by white mothers/grandparents or African-African) or Eric Holder black (Caribbean blacks who do everything possible to keep their kids away from the influence of African American culture). But there just aren’t that many of them, not enough to fill 25% of the seats at that elementary school. Not even close.
It's that old 'debil, noticing...LOL
Ever seen Jesse Jackson in person? His features are very African. His skin is about the color of a banana skin. I was totally shocked.Replies: @Big Bill
This is noticing patterns; something the left hates, hates, hates.Replies: @Jack D
Imagine if Trump tweeted about this: “Stop with the hate, already! America’s diversity is its strength. Sad.”
I'm not saying this because I disagree with her politics. When Obama spoke at the dinner a few years ago, he was actually funny and had decent delivery. Even Stephen Colbert, who's generally only mildly funny, is much better than her.
The problem wasn't that Michelle Wolf was "mean." Most of the people who speak at these dinners are "mean."
The problem was that the delivery was off. A lot of the "jokes" were strange or incomprehensible. The audience, which definitely was not full of Trump-friendly individuals, spent much of the time in awkward silence and cringed at quite a few of the jokes.
Watch here. You can start at 35 seconds. If you watch from 4:03 to 4:15, she tells a fairly crude joke.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L8IYPnnsYJw
There are funny liberals who hate Trump. She's not one of them. I don't know who the hell selected her.Replies: @JohnnyWalker123, @DCThrowback, @Jack D, @Canadian Observer, @Mr. Anon, @The Last Real Calvinist
I liked her line that “it is kind of crazy that the Trump campaign was in contact with Russia when the Hillary campaign wasn’t even in contact with Michigan.”
Basically, my richest friends have bought homes in this Upper West Side District and then virtue signal to their merely affluent friends that they send their children to NEW YORK CITY PUBLIC SCHOOLS!!! because of their commitment to diversity and equity. My friends who live in merely affluent neighborhoods, but not one affluent enough to have excellent public schools, then explode in anger to the accusation that the merely affluent parents are not fully committed to public schooling, diversity and equity because they send their children to Jewish schools or private schools.
Because I have a screw loose in my head, I invariably point out that the most affluent only embrace public school education because they are rich enough to buy into one of the five public school districts in New York City with excellent schools. Stating this obvious truism, then makes me the enemy of everyone and I am not invited to the next dinner party.Replies: @AndrewR, @Anonym, @Almost Missouri, @Anonymous, @Yak-15, @Achmed E. Newman, @Hunsdon, @Alden, @ThirdWorldSteveReader
Years ago, a friend and I crashed one of those middle-aged, upper class Jewish dinner parties in a Manhattan brownstone. My favorite part of the evening was the look on people’s faces when my friend told them that we became friends in church Sunday school.
I think, in general, female comedians are a lot less funny than men. Mostly because when they tell jokes, it's almost like they seem full of hurt and self-pity. When female comedians are talking, it's often hard to tell if they're joking or looking for sympathy. It can be uncomfortable to watch them.
Men are just naturally better at comedy.
In Michelle Wolf's case, she was unfunny by even the low standards of female comedians.Replies: @Corn, @Lot, @Mr. Anon
These days the academic/twitter left hate Bill Maher.
Thw Squid and the Whale was upper middle class 1980s Brooklyn, which was only marginally expensive compared with middle America.
UWS, for an apartment big enough for a family of three, is 4500 a month or 1.6 million, so a combo of inherited wealth, earned wealth, and a few rent controled people and public housing.
Elana Kagan might be the only famous person in the USA who grew up middle class on the UWS, West End Ave and 75th St, on the ignominious third floor.
The ANC didn’t shut down nice private schools when they took power.
Aren’t all Mexicans and Mexican-Americans “mariachi musicians in [their] spare time”? or Hi-Wheelers?
All it took was that one inexperienced pilot to take out the Hispanic contingent of the rock-n-rollers ... same day the music died.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLAWPrCUQQ0
It already is – see Pierce v. Society of Sisters, 268 U.S. 510 (1925).
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pierce_v._Society_of_Sisters
Of course, there is no guarantee in this era of arbitrary judicial action that some ambitious city government won’t try, and couldn’t find a radical district judge to agree – but any such attempt would undoubtedly be appealed all the way to the Supreme Court. Persuading the Supremes to overturn their own precedent historically has been a very difficult proposition.
Amen to that. The Gauche Ol’ Panderers are even “more” stupider than that.
“Parents have objected to the plan for its impact on school quality…”.
Yeah, like the denizens of Mill Valley CA opposing the construction of low income housing because of the “environmental impact.”
Gotta love watching these people twist themselves into pretzels.
In other words…don’t hold your breath. And add Fieldstone School and Riverdale Country Day to the list–both in the heavily affluent, predominantly Jewish (what a surprise!) Riverdale section of the Bronx.
At the time Elena Kagan grew up, the UWS was a middle class but declining area and there were plenty of middle class Jews in rent controlled apartments who had not yet moved to Teaneck.
South Africa was a negotiated, mediated transfer of power, somewhat like Hong Kong. The U.S. will experience more of an unconditional surrender, like Vichy France. And the magic white kids belief system doesn’t seem to have developed in the South African denomination of witchcraft, probably due to the relative numerical lack of white kids relative to the US. But I would anticipate dehydrated white kid brain powder hitting the witch doctor market in the coming years as an educational supplement.
How long until the option to send your kids to private schools is taken away?
If only. That would be a Godsend because it would force the people with wealth and influence to take an interest in some of the public policies they’ve forced on others (mass immigration; equalism).
What is wrong with the third floor?
We’re not racists. We just hate people with bad test scores. Got it?
The ANC elite wants to send their own children to those schools. Bishop’s, Michaelhouse, Hilton, and St. John’s all have non-trivial numbers of ANC leadership connected black kids.
NYC is a hell-hole of Third World peoples who keep coming and coming, and bringing the Third Word with them, and a bunch of super-rich who don't really live there but park their assets in the Five Boroughs for safekeeping.
This demographic reality is what got Bill DeBlackio elected and has guaranteed his re-election. This is not Rudy's city, it is not even Bloomberg's city. Its a city of Russian, Chinese, and Saudi billionaires plus the Third World scum. The Yuppie West Siders are as stupid and doomed as the nice White ladies in Britain who voted for rape gangs and "grooming" and other joys of diversity.
All are going to get exactly what they wanted, good and hard.
My guess is that NYC enacts a "White a Bloc" law mandating kids be sent to Black/Hispanic slum schools with no exceptions for private schooling or even tutoring. That won't bother the Russian, Chinese, and Saudi oligarchs parking their billions there as their kids are likely to be sent to private schools in Switzerland or New Zealand or someplace else away from the Upper Middle Class who (irony alert) they in their billions view as scum. Obviously since "White ain't allright" according to our poet laureate the Judges who really run this country will uphold a "White a Bloc" rule and the extensions coming.
Once it is the law of the land that White kids must be forced to go to school in nearly all Black slums (to get the hell beat out of them daily if they are boys, teen pregnancy for girls there is a lesson here on the relative risks boys and girls face from conquerors) it will be extended to other areas. A "White a Bloc" for say, South Central, or Harlem, or Detroit. Call it a draft and of course the denizens of blight like Malibu, West Palm Beach, and Palos Verdes will be exempt just the rich could buy their way out of the draft in 1862. The NBA and Rap music however will be exempt save for tokens Kevin Love and Eminem.
Really there is no limit to a White a Bloc draft when you think about it -- its a great way for the oligarchs (Judges and billionaires who really rule this nation) to enserf the average White guy -- someone is going to have to pay for all the Third Worlders and it wont' be Zuck!Replies: @Jack D, @Dave Pinsen, @Alden, @G Pinfold
And then the UN and the ZOG will come with their black helicopters and take your guns away. Time to have your tinfoil hat relined.
Silly rabbit, forced integration is for the little people.
Basically, my richest friends have bought homes in this Upper West Side District and then virtue signal to their merely affluent friends that they send their children to NEW YORK CITY PUBLIC SCHOOLS!!! because of their commitment to diversity and equity. My friends who live in merely affluent neighborhoods, but not one affluent enough to have excellent public schools, then explode in anger to the accusation that the merely affluent parents are not fully committed to public schooling, diversity and equity because they send their children to Jewish schools or private schools.
Because I have a screw loose in my head, I invariably point out that the most affluent only embrace public school education because they are rich enough to buy into one of the five public school districts in New York City with excellent schools. Stating this obvious truism, then makes me the enemy of everyone and I am not invited to the next dinner party.Replies: @AndrewR, @Anonym, @Almost Missouri, @Anonymous, @Yak-15, @Achmed E. Newman, @Hunsdon, @Alden, @ThirdWorldSteveReader
I agree with AM, but also, I’d like to read more comments of this kind from you and others. These personal stories to illustrate our points are the most enjoyable ones to read.
I just talked to a Norwegian guy a few hours ago, and we quickly got into a big discussion about the general immigration issue. I can’t remember who even started it, but the guy was just clueless, and I had to go through some of the basics. I doubt he learned anything, but at least he knows there are people out there that don’t agree with his Lyin-Press-induced BS opinions.
I am assuming your wife wasn’t there at the dinner party, is that right? Mine gets so upset when I challenge anyone on any political thing. I held my tongue at the zoo recently, but man, if my wife wasn’t there ….
In 1900 Oakland was considered a far superior place to live than foggy working class San Francisco.
It’s not true that location location location is the most important thing in real estate
Demographics demographics demographics is the most important thing in real estate.
I'm not saying this because I disagree with her politics. When Obama spoke at the dinner a few years ago, he was actually funny and had decent delivery. Even Stephen Colbert, who's generally only mildly funny, is much better than her.
The problem wasn't that Michelle Wolf was "mean." Most of the people who speak at these dinners are "mean."
The problem was that the delivery was off. A lot of the "jokes" were strange or incomprehensible. The audience, which definitely was not full of Trump-friendly individuals, spent much of the time in awkward silence and cringed at quite a few of the jokes.
Watch here. You can start at 35 seconds. If you watch from 4:03 to 4:15, she tells a fairly crude joke.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L8IYPnnsYJw
There are funny liberals who hate Trump. She's not one of them. I don't know who the hell selected her.Replies: @JohnnyWalker123, @DCThrowback, @Jack D, @Canadian Observer, @Mr. Anon, @The Last Real Calvinist
Funny how AIPAC never invites a gentile comedian to play the court jester at one of its conferences.
I think, in general, female comedians are a lot less funny than men. Mostly because when they tell jokes, it's almost like they seem full of hurt and self-pity. When female comedians are talking, it's often hard to tell if they're joking or looking for sympathy. It can be uncomfortable to watch them.
Men are just naturally better at comedy.
In Michelle Wolf's case, she was unfunny by even the low standards of female comedians.Replies: @Corn, @Lot, @Mr. Anon
Which times were those? The 1990s?
It would be helpful if someone could quantify this: In that neighborhood what would the average white kid's IQ be, and what would the effect be of letting the top 25 percent of the poor kids in? What is their average IQ? How would that affect the teaching, exactly? Whatever is wrong with the mental ability of the poor kids, it's not going to be fixed in the first week of a diverse class, so everyone suffers.
I love the guy who talks about giving $5,000 worth of tutoring to each poor kid, as though that is the problem and things would be equalized. Test tutoring is mostly a placebo even for rich kids, but it would have zero effect on poor kids. You don't torture naturally poor musicians and athletes by forcing them to take tutoring. This is like gay conversion therapy.
As far as diversity goes, the way it was done in my high school in Los Angeles in the early 1970s was that a few black kids were bussed in, and then everyone was tracked according to his ability in academic classes. You had a few black kids in the smart classes, but mostly they were in the normal classes. The diversity happened on the athletic field, the band, orchestra, choir, and drama classes, home ec and shop, and places like that. You didn't try to mix people with different brain power in cognitive classes. People made friends in those classes. It left the black kids who were dumb with some self respect, since they weren't forced into classes where they would not do well, in front of everyone else. Common sense. We no longer have that. Of course we no longer have a lot of these non-academic classes anymore.Replies: @Mishra, @Jack D, @Ed, @Alden, @Dissident
Blacks have been complaining about tracking since about the 50s. DC is still under a court order from the 60s that effectively bars tracking at its schools.
Tracking fell out of favor in academic circles in the subsequent decades after the civil rights era but appears to be making a minor comeback.
Do you think anybody on the Upper West Side is wondering if nobody from MIT or Harvard or Princeton wanted this job? Isn't school snobbery supposed to make sense for jobs like this?
Gore Vidal said that the mastery of a foreign language was the traditional hallmark of a liberal education. I see no reference in Carranza's wiki page to any later introduction and scholarly struggle to become fluent in a foreign tongue that took him outside his experiences.Replies: @27 year old, @dearieme, @Bugg, @Dr. X, @Lugash
I’d guess he went to UofA because he could afford it as an undergrad, then decided to get out of the heat and went north for a bit. Makes sense. Graduate studies in education are ticket punching anyway.
From the naive perspective, why couldn’t Wilhelm find a capable leader who came up in the NYC system and knows its ins and outs?
Indeed, Carranza looks like a member of Los Lobos. And the Tucson native takes pride in being a mariachi musician in his spare time.
If he’s serious about it, this is a plus. Tucson mariachi music is serious business.
It’s time for whites, privileged and otherwise, to abandon the cultural Marxist curriculum of public schools, which can then concentrate on their real mission: day care centers for non-whites who will someday throw chairs through fast food store windows when they don’t get a free fountain drink with their $4 greasy meal. Pass out iPads and condoms and let the kids watch cartoons, break dance, and beat each other up. When they are 18 they can be released onto the streets to become government subsidized consumers, like this cholo school superintendent, or join the homeless army in the NYC subways.
I'm not saying this because I disagree with her politics. When Obama spoke at the dinner a few years ago, he was actually funny and had decent delivery. Even Stephen Colbert, who's generally only mildly funny, is much better than her.
The problem wasn't that Michelle Wolf was "mean." Most of the people who speak at these dinners are "mean."
The problem was that the delivery was off. A lot of the "jokes" were strange or incomprehensible. The audience, which definitely was not full of Trump-friendly individuals, spent much of the time in awkward silence and cringed at quite a few of the jokes.
Watch here. You can start at 35 seconds. If you watch from 4:03 to 4:15, she tells a fairly crude joke.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L8IYPnnsYJw
There are funny liberals who hate Trump. She's not one of them. I don't know who the hell selected her.Replies: @JohnnyWalker123, @DCThrowback, @Jack D, @Canadian Observer, @Mr. Anon, @The Last Real Calvinist
That’s the biggest assemblage of parasites I’ve seen since I took my dog to the vet for her heartworm test.
Ironically, as we all know
this is where many of the people who work in main stream media live -do they at all see their own hypocrisy – typing away at HuffPost how racist whites are in Ferguson then telling their coworkers they have to leave early to attend a community board mtg about public school integration?
I think UWS Jews -and Jews in general- have lived with this kind of hypocrisy for a long time and are comfortable with it – after all they have been supporting Israel so a little issue about local public schools isn’t going to phase them – if you point out their hypocrisy you’re anti-semitic,that’s all.
Chuck Schumer can be one of the strongest pro-abortion advocates then attend fundraisers and donate heavily to a cause that encourages jewish women to not have abortions… …
but the people having cognitive dissonance are white liberals who were mostly raised in the affluent suburbs around NYC and now are living on the UWS.
All their lives they have been shielded from the consequences of their beliefs -which were really just displays of their status that they were, well, shielded from the consequences of their beliefs.. now the margin has eroded -as others have said- they don’t quite have enough money to send one or two kids to private schools and real estate is getting more and more expensive so this is just enough to make living on the UWS untenable.
Prediction: they will become advocates of home schooling…
It’s also déclassé to be a nurse or the usual kind of night shift worker.
Those SJWs have worked to destroy me and mine since their commie goyim hating Christian hating ancestors arrived in 1880.
Big city Jews, like other big city Whites have been abused, driven from neighborhood to neighborhood, city to suburb, suburb to suburb since 1940.
But they still love to the point of worship blacks and viscerally hate the White Christian goyim.
They loved and elected Dinkins . They hated Guilliani because he cracked down on their beloved black criminals.
NYC is a hell-hole of Third World peoples who keep coming and coming, and bringing the Third Word with them, and a bunch of super-rich who don't really live there but park their assets in the Five Boroughs for safekeeping.
This demographic reality is what got Bill DeBlackio elected and has guaranteed his re-election. This is not Rudy's city, it is not even Bloomberg's city. Its a city of Russian, Chinese, and Saudi billionaires plus the Third World scum. The Yuppie West Siders are as stupid and doomed as the nice White ladies in Britain who voted for rape gangs and "grooming" and other joys of diversity.
All are going to get exactly what they wanted, good and hard.
My guess is that NYC enacts a "White a Bloc" law mandating kids be sent to Black/Hispanic slum schools with no exceptions for private schooling or even tutoring. That won't bother the Russian, Chinese, and Saudi oligarchs parking their billions there as their kids are likely to be sent to private schools in Switzerland or New Zealand or someplace else away from the Upper Middle Class who (irony alert) they in their billions view as scum. Obviously since "White ain't allright" according to our poet laureate the Judges who really run this country will uphold a "White a Bloc" rule and the extensions coming.
Once it is the law of the land that White kids must be forced to go to school in nearly all Black slums (to get the hell beat out of them daily if they are boys, teen pregnancy for girls there is a lesson here on the relative risks boys and girls face from conquerors) it will be extended to other areas. A "White a Bloc" for say, South Central, or Harlem, or Detroit. Call it a draft and of course the denizens of blight like Malibu, West Palm Beach, and Palos Verdes will be exempt just the rich could buy their way out of the draft in 1862. The NBA and Rap music however will be exempt save for tokens Kevin Love and Eminem.
Really there is no limit to a White a Bloc draft when you think about it -- its a great way for the oligarchs (Judges and billionaires who really rule this nation) to enserf the average White guy -- someone is going to have to pay for all the Third Worlders and it wont' be Zuck!Replies: @Jack D, @Dave Pinsen, @Alden, @G Pinfold
Lagos on the Hudson?
The zip code that includes the American Museum of Natural History (and Zabar’s, FWIW) is 10024. ZipWho lists it as 77.5% white, which, anecdotally, seems too low. Typically, the only NAMs you see in that neighborhood on a weekend afternoon are nannies and delivery men.
I would estimate 97.5%, based on 30 years living in NYC and spending time in that neighborhood on a weekly basis for the last decade.
I find this story amusing for many reasons, again because I live on the other side of the park. A lot of commenters don't realize that even the UES and UWS has it's fair share of working class/middle class housing, depending on what avenue you happen to be on. The difference between one avenue and the next can be substantial in terms of concentrated wealth. You can go from fabulously wealthy to solid middle class in the span of a few blocks. There are even some dirt cheap rent controlled units still stuck randomly through all of these wealthy neighborhoods.
Many of the people raging in the video are not necessarily capable of just moving away. The truly wealthy aren't sending their kids to public schools anyway. This school is about to get inundated with highly dysfunctional ghetto trash and everyone in that school knows it, including Carranza and the mayor.
DiBlasio is truly repellent. He was "elected" with the lowest turnout in NYC history. There were simply no legitimate candidates available to run against him, which was shocking in and of itself.
No one wants that gig anymore. And despite his rhetoric, DiBlasio is fully supported by and supportive of the real estate industry, and they're the ones who truly run, and own, this city anyway.Replies: @I, commenter, @Jim Don Bob
True, but as a percentage, probably about half of any negros you interact with will be in the really dumb group. With whites it’s less than 5%.
So in your daily activity, you can’t but help notice a pattern of negros lacking a clue. Whereas with whites, it’s a small group that are clueless and the vast majority are competent.
It’s that old ‘debil, noticing…LOL
I know a family who bought a 2 bedroom apartment on West End Ave in the ’80s for $11k. They bought it in the early 1970s. Think the kids recently sold it, certainly for 7 figures.
His grandmother broke her hip when a group of black kids grabbed her purse.He went to Bronx Science for high school, a school whose rigorous entrance requirements kept out the rabble.
I convinced my FIL to buy the rent controlled apartment of his spinster sister at that kind of discount (she didn't want to buy it). He made a big profit when she passed away but then he gave the proceeds to a stock broker to manage and he pissed it away - easy come, easy go, I guess.Replies: @Dave Pinsen, @Ed
Is there a mental disorder that crosses Stockholm Syndrome and Psychopathy?
“Samantha Bee’s Husband Fights To Keep Poor, Black Kids Out Of His Children’s School”
‘Jason Jones is not only a former “correspondent” for the left-wing Daily Show, he is also husband to Samantha Bee, one of the leftist leaders of the so-called Resistance Movement against President Trump. Oh, and Jones doesn’t want the city of New York to move his children’s school to a location that would make it more accessible to poor, black kids.
Both Samantha Bee and Jason Jones are wealthy and very white.’
https://www.dailywire.com/news/15927/samantha-bees-husband-fights-keep-poor-black-kids-john-nolte
Inviting Jordan Peterson on as a guest really rattled their cage.
https://www.mansionglobal.com/articles/95282-malibu-real-estate-market-spikes
As has been suggested here before, Trump should propose some kind of affordable housing there for dreamers or something.Replies: @lavoisier
Section 8 housing in the middle of Malibu. A Robert Taylor Homes project on the Pacific.
“That’s fueling the fire, and that’s a mistake,” said Joshua Goldberg.”
Go get ’em, Joshua! I’m 100% with you and yours on this one.
Anon, In Buffalo the Catholic prep HSs are about $12,ooo per year. The best private school is $25k per year. In Cleveland the Catholic preps are about the same as Buffalo, but the better private schools are over $30k. Soon it will be way too expensive to send all your kids to private schools and the public schools will be so poorly performing that maybe home schooling will be your only option. Moving to the suburbs may help but property taxes can be crippling in the better burbs. A beautiful home, walking distance from me, pays $28k in property taxes but your kids are in a good school district. The first ring suburbs of Buffalo are diversifying and the schools are heading down hill. The demise of the Diocesan Catholic school system hurt many kids chances of a reasonably priced private education.
My youngest daughter's tuition at the local RC high school was $11k when she graduated in 2009. The local public schools spend $18k+ per student not including the capital costs of $100 million dollar HS buildings.Replies: @Buffalo Joe
Tony Blair famously wanted to rub the white working and middle classes face in diversity but he pulled strings to get his own children into an all white school in Fulham, one that was miles away from where he was living at the time, Islington. Other members of the Labour Party establishment pulled stings to get their children there too, so that the school was eventually pulled over the coals by the regulators for its policy of keeping out blacks.
Gordon Brown moved to a small all white village in Scotland to endsure his own children attended an all white school, yet he was the one who called a native Engluish woman a bigot for complaining about eastern Europeans driving down wages and overcrowding schools for ordinary working English people.
Harriet Harman was another Labour politician who sent her son to a school far away from where they lived to escape diversity.
Billy Bragg, a folk singer and left wing supporter of multiculturalism lives in Burton Bradstock, Dorset, probably the whitest part of England it is possible to find. Ben Elton, a left wing comedy writer, moved to Perth in Australia to escape diversity
In the USA the Clintons live in the whitest part of the USA. The horror writer Stephen King who fills his novels with racist uneducated white people lives in a neighbourhood that is exclusively white.
The libtard response to this is that they’re making a sacrifice, they are depriving their own child of the opportunity to experience diversity and enrichment so that the child of an ordinary white family can have that benefit instead.
Furthermore, the applicants with parents were ranked in a points system for church attendance, being confirmed, and other religious activities. So if your family didn't at least go through the motions of being a moral pillar of society, you were not getting into the school.
Cambridge graduate John Oliver did a show denouncing school segregation in the US. I expect Oliver will eventually place his toddler in a private or otherwise segregated school.
https://youtu.be/o8yiYCHMAlM
If you can’t afford $15,000 to $40,000 per child for 13 years private school tuition you aren’t wealthy.
NYC jews still have their bizarre attachment to the public school system. Maybe it’s because Bubbe went to Hunter in 1960 when it was still a prestige women’s college right up there with Penbroke, Vassar, Radcliffe etc. now it’s just another black Hispanic low rated city college
Maybe their hatred of Catholicism still keeps them away from the thousands of catholic schools in NYC.
These parents may think they are wealthy. The reporter trying to survive in high cost NYC may think they are wealthy.
But if they can’t afford private school they are not wealthy.
I too would rather live in a beautiful 1900 condo rather than an ugly box of a suburban tract home. But if you’re going to pick beautiful architecture over safety and decent public schools, better provide for public schools and personal security.
I have no sympathy for NYC Whites. They hate the rest of us. The grandparents and great grandparents of these people donated millions to ADl, AJC ACLU and the rest to pay for the lawsuits that destroyed the public school system with hordes of savages
5 percent black kids in a school cause 90 percent of the problems. At 10 percent the destruction starts. At 15 percent it’s all over.
The only thing that can turn around NYC public schools is a mass invasion of Asians and Hispanics. It’s worked in California, even in Watts and Oakland.
I saw a thing this week in the news about the once infamous Jordan high in Watts La Ca. It was kids raising money for prom tickets dresses other expenses. Not one black in view.
Let NYC Whites suffer the results of their 100 year effort to use the blacks to destroy the White goyim
That's exactly what is happening in NYC already. And they've pretty much got it in the bag. Black Americans are being phased out.
I know a family who bought a 2 bedroom apartment on West End Ave in the ’80s for $11k…Think the kids recently sold it, certainly for 7 figures.
My freshman year roommate was from West End Avenue. His family was far from wealthy, as his father was a traveling clothing salesman.
His grandmother broke her hip when a group of black kids grabbed her purse.
He went to Bronx Science for high school, a school whose rigorous entrance requirements kept out the rabble.
Basically, my richest friends have bought homes in this Upper West Side District and then virtue signal to their merely affluent friends that they send their children to NEW YORK CITY PUBLIC SCHOOLS!!! because of their commitment to diversity and equity. My friends who live in merely affluent neighborhoods, but not one affluent enough to have excellent public schools, then explode in anger to the accusation that the merely affluent parents are not fully committed to public schooling, diversity and equity because they send their children to Jewish schools or private schools.
Because I have a screw loose in my head, I invariably point out that the most affluent only embrace public school education because they are rich enough to buy into one of the five public school districts in New York City with excellent schools. Stating this obvious truism, then makes me the enemy of everyone and I am not invited to the next dinner party.Replies: @AndrewR, @Anonym, @Almost Missouri, @Anonymous, @Yak-15, @Achmed E. Newman, @Hunsdon, @Alden, @ThirdWorldSteveReader
How does the line go, about a prophet being without honor among his own people?
The GOP might not use her, but the God Emperor surely will.
I had to read somewhere that Holder is Caribbean black. From his pictures I thought he is White.
Ever seen Jesse Jackson in person? His features are very African. His skin is about the color of a banana skin. I was totally shocked.
The zip code that includes the American Museum of Natural History (and Zabar's, FWIW) is 10024. ZipWho lists it as 77.5% white, which, anecdotally, seems too low. Typically, the only NAMs you see in that neighborhood on a weekend afternoon are nannies and delivery men.Replies: @Dave, @Jack D, @Alden, @Simon
I live on the UES, and I can state conclusively that there is no way in hell that that zip is only 77.5% white.
I would estimate 97.5%, based on 30 years living in NYC and spending time in that neighborhood on a weekly basis for the last decade.
I find this story amusing for many reasons, again because I live on the other side of the park. A lot of commenters don’t realize that even the UES and UWS has it’s fair share of working class/middle class housing, depending on what avenue you happen to be on. The difference between one avenue and the next can be substantial in terms of concentrated wealth. You can go from fabulously wealthy to solid middle class in the span of a few blocks. There are even some dirt cheap rent controlled units still stuck randomly through all of these wealthy neighborhoods.
Many of the people raging in the video are not necessarily capable of just moving away. The truly wealthy aren’t sending their kids to public schools anyway. This school is about to get inundated with highly dysfunctional ghetto trash and everyone in that school knows it, including Carranza and the mayor.
DiBlasio is truly repellent. He was “elected” with the lowest turnout in NYC history. There were simply no legitimate candidates available to run against him, which was shocking in and of itself.
No one wants that gig anymore. And despite his rhetoric, DiBlasio is fully supported by and supportive of the real estate industry, and they’re the ones who truly run, and own, this city anyway.
But have you noticed the shadow maps @ the MAS? supertowers are conspicuously absent (as are bike lanes) from the UES.
When Jackie O was still alive the elite still had some sense of noblesse oblige, -remember when AOL time warner building was going to cast shadows on central park and she spoke out?
This time around, there are 10x the number of shadow casting super towers going up and all the elite can say is how wonderful it is.
That demise may be a blessing in disguise. In most places in the United States, Catholic schools are now no better than the public schools, and very often, they’re even worse.
And at least they are not full of blacks screeching and cursing all day long.
That’s my point about blacks. It’s behavior, not IQ or achievement.
A couple of months ago at 8 pm, the superintendent of Miami-Dade County Public Schools , Alberto Carvalho, accepted the position of chancellor of New York City schools. An emergency school board meeting was held in Miami the very next morning where residents and members of the school board begged Carvalho to not leave. Carvalho excused himself during the meeting, called New York City Mayor DeBlasio, and decided to stay in Miami.
Rapper Luther Campbell, aka Luke of the 2 Live Crew, asking Carvalho to stay.
Carvalho pulled a similar stunt in 2008 when he received simulataneously receieved offers from Pineallas County Schools and Miami-Dade County Schools.
http://www.tampabay.com/blogs/gradebook/2018/03/01/miamis-dramatic-day-brings-it-all-back-remember-when-alberto-carvalho-kept-the-pinellas-school-board-guessing/
But this should concern the Manhattan rich too, as these families are the buffer that keeps their neighborhoods as nice as they are.Replies: @J.Ross, @Excal, @Alden
I wonder whether they’re also worried about the effect of newly vibrantised schools on their property values? I know next to nothing about the Upper West Side real estate market, except that it seems impossible to imagine Manhattan real estate going anywhere but up, but worries over that might help explain the emotional intensity on display here.
It would be helpful if someone could quantify this: In that neighborhood what would the average white kid's IQ be, and what would the effect be of letting the top 25 percent of the poor kids in? What is their average IQ? How would that affect the teaching, exactly? Whatever is wrong with the mental ability of the poor kids, it's not going to be fixed in the first week of a diverse class, so everyone suffers.
I love the guy who talks about giving $5,000 worth of tutoring to each poor kid, as though that is the problem and things would be equalized. Test tutoring is mostly a placebo even for rich kids, but it would have zero effect on poor kids. You don't torture naturally poor musicians and athletes by forcing them to take tutoring. This is like gay conversion therapy.
As far as diversity goes, the way it was done in my high school in Los Angeles in the early 1970s was that a few black kids were bussed in, and then everyone was tracked according to his ability in academic classes. You had a few black kids in the smart classes, but mostly they were in the normal classes. The diversity happened on the athletic field, the band, orchestra, choir, and drama classes, home ec and shop, and places like that. You didn't try to mix people with different brain power in cognitive classes. People made friends in those classes. It left the black kids who were dumb with some self respect, since they weren't forced into classes where they would not do well, in front of everyone else. Common sense. We no longer have that. Of course we no longer have a lot of these non-academic classes anymore.Replies: @Mishra, @Jack D, @Ed, @Alden, @Dissident
Absolutely wrong, wrong, wrong.
Black kids are dangerous. There is also the noise factor. Blacks don’t talk, they scream. Try being stuck listening to black screaming and jibber jabber all day
Black kids can be more dangerous than adults. They beat assault sexual harass and rob White and Asian kids, not just in school but walking and riding the city bus to and from school.
Only good thing about the Hispanic invasion is that Hispanic kids are allowed to defend themselves against blacks without being sent to prison for racism.
Hispanic kids often drop out of school at 15 it so because the parents send them to work. Contrast that with the black k drop outs who hang around the school all day causing trouble.
The Hispanic kids behave about the same as the Whites, generally pretty civilized. And they accept a teachers order to be quiet, stand in line like a civilized person, walk, not run and rampage through the halls.
If bored they just sit there and doodle or daydream whatever instead of throwing chairs and attacking teachers and students as the blacks do.
Saw something on drudge recently that the teachers union claims that 10,000 NYC employees were physically assaulted by the students last year. Of course the article didn’t mention most of the attackers are black.
When Hispanic kids are suspended or whatever the parents don’t call up the local preacher to foment a riot and bring TV and print media to rant and rave that black kids should be able to rampage around, beat, sexually harass, rob and abuse teachers and students while screeching at the top of their lungs all day long.
I’ve learned the facts I’ve presented from teachers who survived the transition from 80 percent black schools to 90 percent Hispanic schools.
Why do you think the teachers unions are so pro immigration? It’s not just to increase their client base. It’s also because the Asian and Hispanic invaders aren’t a threat to the physical safety of school staff, speak in normal voice level and don’t insert mother lover f**k and n****r into every garbled gobbled incoherent sentence fragment.
Speak with teachers and people who went to school with blacks before you make comments that it’s all about IQ
The IQ and dumbing down argument is just a facade to cover up the fact that Whites, Asians Hispanics and others don’t want their kids exposed to black noise and verbal and physical abuse 5 days a week for their entire childhood.
Even in the ’70s , you couldn’t buy an apartment on the UWS for $11K – UNLESS you were the rent controlled tenant living in it. Rent controlled tenants could get up to a 90% discount on the value of their apartment (because they were basically worthless to the building owner – after the building went co-op the monthly maintenance would be more than the rent and the tenant could stay for life and even move his kids in and THEY could stay for life).
I convinced my FIL to buy the rent controlled apartment of his spinster sister at that kind of discount (she didn’t want to buy it). He made a big profit when she passed away but then he gave the proceeds to a stock broker to manage and he pissed it away – easy come, easy go, I guess.
Don't remember if it was rent controlled, but it's certainly not rent controlled now. About 12 years ago, a Merrill Lynch bigwig bought four apartments on the floor above them and converted them to one.
Another bank regular was an elderly client who lived in a rent control apartment off CPW. Her rent was $1000 but problem was her income only consisted of social security which was $1100. She’d overdraw her account every month and would always look for a refund if the fees.
She also lived with a daughter in her 50s who was rendered mentally insane due to a rape she suffered in her 20s. She never left the house.
People really became trapped in these rent control apartments it’s not a good thing.Replies: @Triumph104
The zip code that includes the American Museum of Natural History (and Zabar's, FWIW) is 10024. ZipWho lists it as 77.5% white, which, anecdotally, seems too low. Typically, the only NAMs you see in that neighborhood on a weekend afternoon are nannies and delivery men.Replies: @Dave, @Jack D, @Alden, @Simon
The interior blocks (Columbus and Amsterdam) and side streets used to be pretty Puerto Rican. Most of the Housing Authority high rise projects are further north but there are a couple , e.g. the whole block between 90 & 91, Columbus & Amsterdam.
Kicking out the residents, who are squatting on billions of dollars worth of property and likely soaking up tons of other government benefits, would produce a windfall for the taxpayers of NYC and a gigantic number of jobs.
The average Manhattan apartment hit $2 million in 2016. If we conservatively say these public housing units are 20% less than that, we get $1.6 million. And the 2 million figure includes Harlem while I am excluding it.
Spend $100,000 per apartment cleaning it up and renovating it, and another $100,000 buying out and relocating the tenant, and we have a $1.4 million profit times 22,000 units. That is a gain of $31 billion for NYC taxpayers. On top of that, the new residents of the units, unlike the old ones, would pay property and income taxes, likely pay way more in sales taxes, and save the city all sorts of police and maintenance costs.
If the average household income of the new residents is $150,000, and between income/sales/property taxes they pay 5% of that to the city, that is another $165 million a year in tax revenue, which will only grow each year. The discounted present value of that stream is about another $5 billion.
Thus, the total benefit just to the city government of ending public housing in South of Harlem Manhattan would be at least $36 billion, without even getting into second order effects.
The new residents would also of course reap a large benefit. So would the all the people who would get jobs and profit from the renovation, for which I set aside $2.2 billion and would create about 1,000 FTE jobs for a year. While dumping thousands of units onto the Manhattan property market could hurt prices, the removal of the old residents would likely offset this by making Manhattan a safer and more prosperous place.
There would be an additional environmental benefit too. As Yglesias like to remind us, dense urban living results in less pollution. Many new residents of the converted projects would be people who work in Manhattan put commute from the suburbs. Fewer commuters produces a first order benefit from less driving and a second order benefit in the form of less pollution from the remaining vehicles which will on average be stuck in traffic a bit less, decreasing their wasted gas and pollution from idling and start and stopping.
Paul Ryan keeps wanting to cut middle class entitlements to finance his tax cuts for the rich. Meanwhile, gigantic public assets are being wasted on people who are permanent charges on the public welfare, who by and large hate the GOP and the middle and upper class Americans who support their free housing in million dollar neighborhood lifestyles.
At least, more modestly, cut off all HUD funding in high cost urban areas who can make up the money through gradual sell offs, sell the properties that are federally owned (not very many but I think there are a few), and change federal law as needed to facilitate local governments selling off their housing projects.Replies: @Jim Don Bob, @Dave Pinsen
Basically, my richest friends have bought homes in this Upper West Side District and then virtue signal to their merely affluent friends that they send their children to NEW YORK CITY PUBLIC SCHOOLS!!! because of their commitment to diversity and equity. My friends who live in merely affluent neighborhoods, but not one affluent enough to have excellent public schools, then explode in anger to the accusation that the merely affluent parents are not fully committed to public schooling, diversity and equity because they send their children to Jewish schools or private schools.
Because I have a screw loose in my head, I invariably point out that the most affluent only embrace public school education because they are rich enough to buy into one of the five public school districts in New York City with excellent schools. Stating this obvious truism, then makes me the enemy of everyone and I am not invited to the next dinner party.Replies: @AndrewR, @Anonym, @Almost Missouri, @Anonymous, @Yak-15, @Achmed E. Newman, @Hunsdon, @Alden, @ThirdWorldSteveReader
That foul mouth radio guy Howard Stern wrote his auto biography. His parents bought a nice home in a nice NYC neighborhood with nice local public schools.
Blacks move to the neighborhood and were bussed into the schools. By the time Howard was in 6 grade it was bad and high school was a nightmare.
His parents were typical greatest generation Roosevelt worshipping liberal Jews. Because they loved blacks so much thy refused to join the exodus to Lon GGilun. Howard resents his parents to this day for the horrors he was subjected to in high school. He wrote several times that the only reason he survived is that he’s 6’4.
And of course it’s never one on one with blacks. It’s 3 to 6 blacks against 1 person of another race.
A few years before he went to satellite he mentioned how his elderly parents got frisked at the local movie theater so the black theater-goers wouldn't feel like they were the only ones getting frisked.Replies: @Alden, @Big Bill
Upper east side is more WASP and catholic, not overwhelmingly Jewish. It’s full of walking distance private schools. The private schools also have their private school bus system for those who live too far to walk.
Public schools don’t even enter the consciousness in that neighborhood.
But this should concern the Manhattan rich too, as these families are the buffer that keeps their neighborhoods as nice as they are.Replies: @J.Ross, @Excal, @Alden
Exactly right, if you can’t afford private or at least the local catholic parish K-8 you’re not wealthy.
NYC is a hell-hole of Third World peoples who keep coming and coming, and bringing the Third Word with them, and a bunch of super-rich who don't really live there but park their assets in the Five Boroughs for safekeeping.
This demographic reality is what got Bill DeBlackio elected and has guaranteed his re-election. This is not Rudy's city, it is not even Bloomberg's city. Its a city of Russian, Chinese, and Saudi billionaires plus the Third World scum. The Yuppie West Siders are as stupid and doomed as the nice White ladies in Britain who voted for rape gangs and "grooming" and other joys of diversity.
All are going to get exactly what they wanted, good and hard.
My guess is that NYC enacts a "White a Bloc" law mandating kids be sent to Black/Hispanic slum schools with no exceptions for private schooling or even tutoring. That won't bother the Russian, Chinese, and Saudi oligarchs parking their billions there as their kids are likely to be sent to private schools in Switzerland or New Zealand or someplace else away from the Upper Middle Class who (irony alert) they in their billions view as scum. Obviously since "White ain't allright" according to our poet laureate the Judges who really run this country will uphold a "White a Bloc" rule and the extensions coming.
Once it is the law of the land that White kids must be forced to go to school in nearly all Black slums (to get the hell beat out of them daily if they are boys, teen pregnancy for girls there is a lesson here on the relative risks boys and girls face from conquerors) it will be extended to other areas. A "White a Bloc" for say, South Central, or Harlem, or Detroit. Call it a draft and of course the denizens of blight like Malibu, West Palm Beach, and Palos Verdes will be exempt just the rich could buy their way out of the draft in 1862. The NBA and Rap music however will be exempt save for tokens Kevin Love and Eminem.
Really there is no limit to a White a Bloc draft when you think about it -- its a great way for the oligarchs (Judges and billionaires who really rule this nation) to enserf the average White guy -- someone is going to have to pay for all the Third Worlders and it wont' be Zuck!Replies: @Jack D, @Dave Pinsen, @Alden, @G Pinfold
South Central Los Angeles has been civilized by the Hispanic invasion and so have the schools in the area.
It’s great for the rest of Los Angeles
The blacks used to drive up the freeways, get off and rob, rape and burglarize as much as they desired.
But the Hispanics have a much lower crime rate and don’t view the freeway as a convenient road to attack Whites.
The whole push for diversity never would have happened if it had been required to be top down.
I’ve heard spots on the radio for a Catholic school that touts its diversity. It is about equal to if they hung a rainbow flag outside the Church, IMO.
They love ethnic diversity, but they don’t tolerate the cursing screeching behavioral diversity of blacks.
Thanks be to God.
I hear the little word "schism" whispered more frequently every year. In my darker moods I wonder if it might not be a welcome thing.Replies: @Old Palo Altan
To be fair, with the exception of the specialized exam schools, all public schools in New York City are being forced to accept challenging students. The selective elite liberal arts high schools like Beacon and Townsend Harris were forced a few years ago to hold places for students with disabilities.
Medgar Evers Prep, a selective admission school, is 90% black and 73% low-income, but few of the students have learning disabilities and almost none are English language learners, so Medgar Evers will be forced to admit more of those type of students.
https://ny.chalkbeat.org/posts/ny/2017/10/25/new-york-city-tweaks-admissions-at-an-elite-middle-school-sparking-an-uproar/
I’ll give them credit for this: At least the program is based on test scores and not race. Seems you don’t have a constitutional right to not have any dumb kids in your children’s classroom.
Basically, my richest friends have bought homes in this Upper West Side District and then virtue signal to their merely affluent friends that they send their children to NEW YORK CITY PUBLIC SCHOOLS!!! because of their commitment to diversity and equity. My friends who live in merely affluent neighborhoods, but not one affluent enough to have excellent public schools, then explode in anger to the accusation that the merely affluent parents are not fully committed to public schooling, diversity and equity because they send their children to Jewish schools or private schools.
Because I have a screw loose in my head, I invariably point out that the most affluent only embrace public school education because they are rich enough to buy into one of the five public school districts in New York City with excellent schools. Stating this obvious truism, then makes me the enemy of everyone and I am not invited to the next dinner party.Replies: @AndrewR, @Anonym, @Almost Missouri, @Anonymous, @Yak-15, @Achmed E. Newman, @Hunsdon, @Alden, @ThirdWorldSteveReader
Saying things as they are remains the best way to be labeled a troublemaker.
“Wealthy white Manhattan parents angrily rant against plan to bring more black kids to their schools”
-I see a disproportionate number of Asians in the crowd, and given it’s Manhattan, rest assured that that a very healthy portion of those “whites” are Hispanic, or from “the Tribe” or other Middle Easterners, and that a very healthy portion of the remaining whites there are recent immigrants. But hey, there’s a false Narrative we’re supposed to believe, so there’s that.
The real problem of these “white” parents is not that they’re wealthy, spoiled bigots, it’s that they’re not wealthy enough. These are upper middle class losers. The real wealthy are shipping their kids off to 40k/yr private schools.
Early ’70s, sorry.
I convinced my FIL to buy the rent controlled apartment of his spinster sister at that kind of discount (she didn't want to buy it). He made a big profit when she passed away but then he gave the proceeds to a stock broker to manage and he pissed it away - easy come, easy go, I guess.Replies: @Dave Pinsen, @Ed
I meant to write the ’70s there.
Don’t remember if it was rent controlled, but it’s certainly not rent controlled now. About 12 years ago, a Merrill Lynch bigwig bought four apartments on the floor above them and converted them to one.
The school has quite a few blacks and Hispanics who score Proficient or Advanced on state exams. The new plan is to dump low-scorers on the school, apparently not by race.
Blacks move to the neighborhood and were bussed into the schools. By the time Howard was in 6 grade it was bad and high school was a nightmare.
His parents were typical greatest generation Roosevelt worshipping liberal Jews. Because they loved blacks so much thy refused to join the exodus to Lon GGilun. Howard resents his parents to this day for the horrors he was subjected to in high school. He wrote several times that the only reason he survived is that he’s 6’4.
And of course it’s never one on one with blacks. It’s 3 to 6 blacks against 1 person of another race.Replies: @Dave Pinsen
Howard’s 6’5″, I think.
A few years before he went to satellite he mentioned how his elderly parents got frisked at the local movie theater so the black theater-goers wouldn’t feel like they were the only ones getting frisked.
Experience to virtue signal not only their liberalism but their Jewish solidarity with blacks
There are a lot of NYC Jews in California
They hated Giuliani for oppressingNYC blacks. Giuliani was called fascist and even KKK.
“Funny how AIPAC never invites a gentile comedian to play the court jester at one of its conferences.”
Indeed.
The zip code that includes the American Museum of Natural History (and Zabar's, FWIW) is 10024. ZipWho lists it as 77.5% white, which, anecdotally, seems too low. Typically, the only NAMs you see in that neighborhood on a weekend afternoon are nannies and delivery men.Replies: @Dave, @Jack D, @Alden, @Simon
Immigrants seldom answer the census forms, even the White immigrants.
I would estimate 97.5%, based on 30 years living in NYC and spending time in that neighborhood on a weekly basis for the last decade.
I find this story amusing for many reasons, again because I live on the other side of the park. A lot of commenters don't realize that even the UES and UWS has it's fair share of working class/middle class housing, depending on what avenue you happen to be on. The difference between one avenue and the next can be substantial in terms of concentrated wealth. You can go from fabulously wealthy to solid middle class in the span of a few blocks. There are even some dirt cheap rent controlled units still stuck randomly through all of these wealthy neighborhoods.
Many of the people raging in the video are not necessarily capable of just moving away. The truly wealthy aren't sending their kids to public schools anyway. This school is about to get inundated with highly dysfunctional ghetto trash and everyone in that school knows it, including Carranza and the mayor.
DiBlasio is truly repellent. He was "elected" with the lowest turnout in NYC history. There were simply no legitimate candidates available to run against him, which was shocking in and of itself.
No one wants that gig anymore. And despite his rhetoric, DiBlasio is fully supported by and supportive of the real estate industry, and they're the ones who truly run, and own, this city anyway.Replies: @I, commenter, @Jim Don Bob
Bloomberg pretty much removed any and all the protections that were put in place in reaction to Robert Moses’ meglomania – and it’s not a surprise the NYT has been resurrecting Robert Moses as a good guy. – the community boards, landmarks, zoning, all have been tossed aside…
But have you noticed the shadow maps @ the MAS? supertowers are conspicuously absent (as are bike lanes) from the UES.
When Jackie O was still alive the elite still had some sense of noblesse oblige, -remember when AOL time warner building was going to cast shadows on central park and she spoke out?
This time around, there are 10x the number of shadow casting super towers going up and all the elite can say is how wonderful it is.
Gordon Brown moved to a small all white village in Scotland to endsure his own children attended an all white school, yet he was the one who called a native Engluish woman a bigot for complaining about eastern Europeans driving down wages and overcrowding schools for ordinary working English people.
Harriet Harman was another Labour politician who sent her son to a school far away from where they lived to escape diversity.
Billy Bragg, a folk singer and left wing supporter of multiculturalism lives in Burton Bradstock, Dorset, probably the whitest part of England it is possible to find. Ben Elton, a left wing comedy writer, moved to Perth in Australia to escape diversity
In the USA the Clintons live in the whitest part of the USA. The horror writer Stephen King who fills his novels with racist uneducated white people lives in a neighbourhood that is exclusively white.
The libtard response to this is that they're making a sacrifice, they are depriving their own child of the opportunity to experience diversity and enrichment so that the child of an ordinary white family can have that benefit instead.Replies: @Triumph104, @Anonymous
I can’t remember the name, but a town in the UK was bragging that their publically-funded all-boys school scored exceptionally well on the national exams. As an American, I knew there was a trick. Turns out it was a religious school that only admitted boys if they were baptized Roman Catholic or Church of England. Priority admission was given to boys in foster care, but how many crack whores get their children baptized before abandoning them?
Furthermore, the applicants with parents were ranked in a points system for church attendance, being confirmed, and other religious activities. So if your family didn’t at least go through the motions of being a moral pillar of society, you were not getting into the school.
Cambridge graduate John Oliver did a show denouncing school segregation in the US. I expect Oliver will eventually place his toddler in a private or otherwise segregated school.
I convinced my FIL to buy the rent controlled apartment of his spinster sister at that kind of discount (she didn't want to buy it). He made a big profit when she passed away but then he gave the proceeds to a stock broker to manage and he pissed it away - easy come, easy go, I guess.Replies: @Dave Pinsen, @Ed
One of my clients at the UWS NYC bank was a Jewish artist that was offered $1 million for his rent control studio off CPW. His neighbors wanted it to expand their own spread. He debated it for awhile but eventually took it. It was his first real money ever. We became friendly during the process to the point he wrote one of my b-school recommendation letters.
Another bank regular was an elderly client who lived in a rent control apartment off CPW. Her rent was $1000 but problem was her income only consisted of social security which was $1100. She’d overdraw her account every month and would always look for a refund if the fees.
She also lived with a daughter in her 50s who was rendered mentally insane due to a rape she suffered in her 20s. She never left the house.
People really became trapped in these rent control apartments it’s not a good thing.
The documentary Grey Gardens shows the aunt and niece of Jackie Kennedy Onasis, Big Edie and Little Edie, happily leading a similar but better financed life in East Hampton NY. The Edies came to the attention of the film makers after their home had been condemned by the board of health then renovated by their embarrassed relatives. Little Edie covered her bald head with whatever fabric she could get her hands on.
https://youtu.be/HZl1IJLTMXM
A few years before he went to satellite he mentioned how his elderly parents got frisked at the local movie theater so the black theater-goers wouldn't feel like they were the only ones getting frisked.Replies: @Alden, @Big Bill
His black loving typical liberal parents subjected him to a horrible high school
Experience to virtue signal not only their liberalism but their Jewish solidarity with blacks
There are a lot of NYC Jews in California
They hated Giuliani for oppressingNYC blacks. Giuliani was called fascist and even KKK.
In the United States, low test scores are a proxy for black and Hispanics. Some NYC schools are giving priority admission to homeless kids and kids with a parent in prison – another proxy for blacks and Hispanics. Two-thirds of the kids enrolled in NYC public schools are either black or Hispanic.
Always good to hear from Jack D.
The zip code that includes the American Museum of Natural History (and Zabar's, FWIW) is 10024. ZipWho lists it as 77.5% white, which, anecdotally, seems too low. Typically, the only NAMs you see in that neighborhood on a weekend afternoon are nannies and delivery men.Replies: @Dave, @Jack D, @Alden, @Simon
Slight exaggeration. Wish it were true. (I’ve lived here for nearly half a century. The people you encounter on the streets are not just the residents of the neighborhood.)
I would estimate 97.5%, based on 30 years living in NYC and spending time in that neighborhood on a weekly basis for the last decade.
I find this story amusing for many reasons, again because I live on the other side of the park. A lot of commenters don't realize that even the UES and UWS has it's fair share of working class/middle class housing, depending on what avenue you happen to be on. The difference between one avenue and the next can be substantial in terms of concentrated wealth. You can go from fabulously wealthy to solid middle class in the span of a few blocks. There are even some dirt cheap rent controlled units still stuck randomly through all of these wealthy neighborhoods.
Many of the people raging in the video are not necessarily capable of just moving away. The truly wealthy aren't sending their kids to public schools anyway. This school is about to get inundated with highly dysfunctional ghetto trash and everyone in that school knows it, including Carranza and the mayor.
DiBlasio is truly repellent. He was "elected" with the lowest turnout in NYC history. There were simply no legitimate candidates available to run against him, which was shocking in and of itself.
No one wants that gig anymore. And despite his rhetoric, DiBlasio is fully supported by and supportive of the real estate industry, and they're the ones who truly run, and own, this city anyway.Replies: @I, commenter, @Jim Don Bob
So how does the real estate industry benefit from destroying an UWS school?
Zoning laws do not apply to public school land - so a developer can build whatever...
also 'block busting' the UWS might kick out a lot of rent stablized familes if they move land lords can do 'rennovations' and jack up the rent so it goes out of rent stabilized range.
Don't put anything past NY real estate developers, they are complete socipaths.Replies: @Triumph104
Real estate developers could care less about NYC public schools.
Joe, What is the mil rate in Buffalo? IOW, what do you pay on each $100 of assessed RE value?
My youngest daughter’s tuition at the local RC high school was $11k when she graduated in 2009. The local public schools spend $18k+ per student not including the capital costs of $100 million dollar HS buildings.
But, running the public schools in Houston is a lot more low profile of a job than running the public schools in NYC.
Houston is barely on the national radar, except during floods. Smaller Austin gets more coverage nationally.
This is true, but in percentage terms, over half of the negros you would interact with, would be from the very dumb. With whites it will be less than 5%, and it won’t seem that many are truly dumb.
This is noticing patterns; something the left hates, hates, hates.
Which is a significant factor but nothing compared to the odds of a random black person being smart. If you look at the area of the graph to the right of 115 IQ, the ratio between blacks and whites is astronomical. For example, in 2005, 1,132 blacks scored 700 or above on the math SAT and 51,587 whites. (Since every prestigious university is shooting for at least a 10% black enrollment, this creates a huge gap between supply and demand - the demand for smart blacks is in the many of thousands but the supply is very limited). In TV commercials this gap is easily solved - you just put blacks in lab coats or make them wear glasses, and viola! instant smart black people, but in real life it's not that simple.
http://www.jbhe.com/features/49_college_admissions-test.htmlReplies: @Anon
NYC jews still have their bizarre attachment to the public school system. Maybe it’s because Bubbe went to Hunter in 1960 when it was still a prestige women’s college right up there with Penbroke, Vassar, Radcliffe etc. now it’s just another black Hispanic low rated city college
Maybe their hatred of Catholicism still keeps them away from the thousands of catholic schools in NYC.
These parents may think they are wealthy. The reporter trying to survive in high cost NYC may think they are wealthy.
But if they can’t afford private school they are not wealthy.
I too would rather live in a beautiful 1900 condo rather than an ugly box of a suburban tract home. But if you’re going to pick beautiful architecture over safety and decent public schools, better provide for public schools and personal security.
I have no sympathy for NYC Whites. They hate the rest of us. The grandparents and great grandparents of these people donated millions to ADl, AJC ACLU and the rest to pay for the lawsuits that destroyed the public school system with hordes of savages
5 percent black kids in a school cause 90 percent of the problems. At 10 percent the destruction starts. At 15 percent it’s all over.
The only thing that can turn around NYC public schools is a mass invasion of Asians and Hispanics. It’s worked in California, even in Watts and Oakland.
I saw a thing this week in the news about the once infamous Jordan high in Watts La Ca. It was kids raising money for prom tickets dresses other expenses. Not one black in view.
Let NYC Whites suffer the results of their 100 year effort to use the blacks to destroy the White goyimReplies: @Anon
The only thing that can turn around NYC public schools is a mass invasion of Asians and Hispanics. It’s worked in California, even in Watts and Oakland.
That’s exactly what is happening in NYC already. And they’ve pretty much got it in the bag. Black Americans are being phased out.
Precisely. And they move to places like Asheville, NC, Myrtle Beach and Hilton Head, SC etc. get in local politics and show the locals their asses and how the did it up North.
As someone who dropped out of the 8th grade, it isn’t the curriculum, it’s the students.
Yep, Trinity, Friends Seminary – are all heavily Jewish – they are VERY SJW, but with one exception (you probably guessed it) when Friends invited an anti-settlement israeli activists the jewish parent threw a fit and he was unpersoned.
That may or may not be true in highly urbanized area like LA, Houston, Chicago and NYC but I can assure you that in less densely populated (read not jungles) areas Census Bureau non-respondent follow up people knocking on doors usually get some sort of answers about who was living in housing unit X on April 1, 2010.
Churches and schools in NYC are catnip for developers- years ago one even tried to get the school district to give him Brooklyn Tech.
Zoning laws do not apply to public school land – so a developer can build whatever…
also ‘block busting’ the UWS might kick out a lot of rent stablized familes if they move land lords can do ‘rennovations’ and jack up the rent so it goes out of rent stabilized range.
Don’t put anything past NY real estate developers, they are complete socipaths.
What you said about zoning laws and real estate developers adds another layer to the greed.Replies: @Steve Sailer
NYC is a hell-hole of Third World peoples who keep coming and coming, and bringing the Third Word with them, and a bunch of super-rich who don't really live there but park their assets in the Five Boroughs for safekeeping.
This demographic reality is what got Bill DeBlackio elected and has guaranteed his re-election. This is not Rudy's city, it is not even Bloomberg's city. Its a city of Russian, Chinese, and Saudi billionaires plus the Third World scum. The Yuppie West Siders are as stupid and doomed as the nice White ladies in Britain who voted for rape gangs and "grooming" and other joys of diversity.
All are going to get exactly what they wanted, good and hard.
My guess is that NYC enacts a "White a Bloc" law mandating kids be sent to Black/Hispanic slum schools with no exceptions for private schooling or even tutoring. That won't bother the Russian, Chinese, and Saudi oligarchs parking their billions there as their kids are likely to be sent to private schools in Switzerland or New Zealand or someplace else away from the Upper Middle Class who (irony alert) they in their billions view as scum. Obviously since "White ain't allright" according to our poet laureate the Judges who really run this country will uphold a "White a Bloc" rule and the extensions coming.
Once it is the law of the land that White kids must be forced to go to school in nearly all Black slums (to get the hell beat out of them daily if they are boys, teen pregnancy for girls there is a lesson here on the relative risks boys and girls face from conquerors) it will be extended to other areas. A "White a Bloc" for say, South Central, or Harlem, or Detroit. Call it a draft and of course the denizens of blight like Malibu, West Palm Beach, and Palos Verdes will be exempt just the rich could buy their way out of the draft in 1862. The NBA and Rap music however will be exempt save for tokens Kevin Love and Eminem.
Really there is no limit to a White a Bloc draft when you think about it -- its a great way for the oligarchs (Judges and billionaires who really rule this nation) to enserf the average White guy -- someone is going to have to pay for all the Third Worlders and it wont' be Zuck!Replies: @Jack D, @Dave Pinsen, @Alden, @G Pinfold
I don’t know much about Manhattan, but Whisky’s opening paragraphs exactly describe the swankiest parts of London such as Mayfair, Knightsbridge, Belgravia, South Kensington, etc.
There was a recent jewel heist in London by a gang of machete-wielding moped riders. In New York, those guys would likely have been shot dead.
That’s just a STEREOTYPE, ya raciss rube! Stereotypes are mostly true, though, so MOST Mexicans and Mexican-Americans are mariachi musicians and Hi-Wheelers, but NOT ALL of them.
All it took was that one inexperienced pilot to take out the Hispanic contingent of the rock-n-rollers … same day the music died.
We have these controversies because the key decision-makers are interested in social work projects rather than teaching youths much of anything. Of course you track by performance. That’s just what efficient time-management demands. In a locus of such density as the Five Boroughs of New York, that’s often going to men separate school buildings for each track.
The question is, how can you flush out the social workers and replace them with administrators who will provide a matrix within which genuine pedagogues can get their work done? Step 1: shutter the schools of education.
Another bank regular was an elderly client who lived in a rent control apartment off CPW. Her rent was $1000 but problem was her income only consisted of social security which was $1100. She’d overdraw her account every month and would always look for a refund if the fees.
She also lived with a daughter in her 50s who was rendered mentally insane due to a rape she suffered in her 20s. She never left the house.
People really became trapped in these rent control apartments it’s not a good thing.Replies: @Triumph104
The daughter was probably collecting about $700/month in SSI, so that was probably going towards utilities and food. The two were just existing until death.
The documentary Grey Gardens shows the aunt and niece of Jackie Kennedy Onasis, Big Edie and Little Edie, happily leading a similar but better financed life in East Hampton NY. The Edies came to the attention of the film makers after their home had been condemned by the board of health then renovated by their embarrassed relatives. Little Edie covered her bald head with whatever fabric she could get her hands on.
There are a number of enjoyable things, besides the cute Oriental, who did say something at the end, BTW, in this video and Mr. Sailer’s take on it. As a libertarian, I really like the part where these parents are starting to realize they are up against the powerful force of BIG GOV – no, not the Feral one, but NYC is huge. It makes me smile, as it looks like they don’t have a chance. I bet they’ve supported Big Gov their whole lives.
This brings up the Principal who invokes the fake” I’m very upset and offended” bit (I bet the only thing that offends Mr. Zymek is non-fat frozen yogurt). This puts the parents in a bad spot. Now, they might have an inkling about how lower-class people in flyover country getting forcbily dieversified and called names for resisting feel. I doubt it though, as they are nothing but selfish. That part made me smile too.
Lastly, as they go home and sob, they will probably come up with a plan, and it may very well involve homeschooling, as many have discussed here. These are people who I’d venture to say have made fun of homeschoolers every single time they’ve ever been brought up to them, say, at dinner parties, by guys named Clifford. ;-} Smiles all around!
Indeed; when the residents of Oak Park, Illinois actually voted in a HANDGUN BAN for themselves I laughed. Can residents of an urban area REALLY be that stupid? Yes indeed they can.Replies: @Alden
A Manhattan-based venture capitalist I know, whose wife has a self-actualizing business, decided to home school his kids for a year or two by hiring a guide, as he called it, IIRC, for them. Basically, an adult who shared their interests and would chaperone them around the city, helping them pursue different projects. He said in his recruiting post for it that he was prepared to pay what he paid for their private schooling.Replies: @Marina
They could set up detention centers run by a dedicated police for and remand the trouble-makers. They don’t do that because they.just.don’t.feel.like.it.
Ghosts of SCOTUSes passed?
Who ya’ gonna call?
Catholic schools go out of their way to be diverse. In Silicon Valley and the Bay Area all the Catholic school brochures and websites show like one European White and 7 Indians and Asians in every picture.
They love ethnic diversity, but they don’t tolerate the cursing screeching behavioral diversity of blacks.
Thanks be to God.
My youngest daughter's tuition at the local RC high school was $11k when she graduated in 2009. The local public schools spend $18k+ per student not including the capital costs of $100 million dollar HS buildings.Replies: @Buffalo Joe
Jim I will get you that number. In 2015 Andrew Cuomo bragged that the average spending per child state wide was $19,999 and that every school district in NYS (over 700 of them) spent more than the national average.
I have experience with this too, songbird, Excal, and Joe from Buffalo. An experienced long-term teacher got fired during the Christmas break due to complaints from some kids (or parents thereof) about showing videos critical of Islam, in the Catholic school! Tuitiion is 10-20X higher than 3 decades ago, and they make a big effort to recruit foreigners from as far as China to keep the money coming in. It’s a lot more than 30 pieces of silver, so I guess that’s A-OK.
Makes one rather nostalgic for the hellfire sermons.
Well, there is always Stuyvesant if they wanted 1) tax payer-sponsored and 2) few blacks and Hispanics.
Wow. What’s the gentile equivalent of Hofjude?
According to the wikipedia list, there are about 22,000 public housing units in Manhattan, excluding Harlem and Washington Heights.
Kicking out the residents, who are squatting on billions of dollars worth of property and likely soaking up tons of other government benefits, would produce a windfall for the taxpayers of NYC and a gigantic number of jobs.
The average Manhattan apartment hit $2 million in 2016. If we conservatively say these public housing units are 20% less than that, we get $1.6 million. And the 2 million figure includes Harlem while I am excluding it.
Spend $100,000 per apartment cleaning it up and renovating it, and another $100,000 buying out and relocating the tenant, and we have a $1.4 million profit times 22,000 units. That is a gain of $31 billion for NYC taxpayers. On top of that, the new residents of the units, unlike the old ones, would pay property and income taxes, likely pay way more in sales taxes, and save the city all sorts of police and maintenance costs.
If the average household income of the new residents is $150,000, and between income/sales/property taxes they pay 5% of that to the city, that is another $165 million a year in tax revenue, which will only grow each year. The discounted present value of that stream is about another $5 billion.
Thus, the total benefit just to the city government of ending public housing in South of Harlem Manhattan would be at least $36 billion, without even getting into second order effects.
The new residents would also of course reap a large benefit. So would the all the people who would get jobs and profit from the renovation, for which I set aside $2.2 billion and would create about 1,000 FTE jobs for a year. While dumping thousands of units onto the Manhattan property market could hurt prices, the removal of the old residents would likely offset this by making Manhattan a safer and more prosperous place.
There would be an additional environmental benefit too. As Yglesias like to remind us, dense urban living results in less pollution. Many new residents of the converted projects would be people who work in Manhattan put commute from the suburbs. Fewer commuters produces a first order benefit from less driving and a second order benefit in the form of less pollution from the remaining vehicles which will on average be stuck in traffic a bit less, decreasing their wasted gas and pollution from idling and start and stopping.
Paul Ryan keeps wanting to cut middle class entitlements to finance his tax cuts for the rich. Meanwhile, gigantic public assets are being wasted on people who are permanent charges on the public welfare, who by and large hate the GOP and the middle and upper class Americans who support their free housing in million dollar neighborhood lifestyles.
At least, more modestly, cut off all HUD funding in high cost urban areas who can make up the money through gradual sell offs, sell the properties that are federally owned (not very many but I think there are a few), and change federal law as needed to facilitate local governments selling off their housing projects.
A lot of the dumb ass ideas that infect this country, such as mainstreaming below grade POCs into good schools, were great ideas as long as they hit only the Deplorables. They are not so great when they bite the GoodWhites in the ass.
It is hard for me to have sympathy for such liberal dopes. Sow the wind, reap the whirl wind.Replies: @Lot, @Thin-Skinned Masta-Beta
Homeschool: http://www.setonhome.org/tuition/
Only costs a few hundred dollars a year per child.
Gordon Brown moved to a small all white village in Scotland to endsure his own children attended an all white school, yet he was the one who called a native Engluish woman a bigot for complaining about eastern Europeans driving down wages and overcrowding schools for ordinary working English people.
Harriet Harman was another Labour politician who sent her son to a school far away from where they lived to escape diversity.
Billy Bragg, a folk singer and left wing supporter of multiculturalism lives in Burton Bradstock, Dorset, probably the whitest part of England it is possible to find. Ben Elton, a left wing comedy writer, moved to Perth in Australia to escape diversity
In the USA the Clintons live in the whitest part of the USA. The horror writer Stephen King who fills his novels with racist uneducated white people lives in a neighbourhood that is exclusively white.
The libtard response to this is that they're making a sacrifice, they are depriving their own child of the opportunity to experience diversity and enrichment so that the child of an ordinary white family can have that benefit instead.Replies: @Triumph104, @Anonymous
The (celebrity) libtard response is to shriek that that you’re endangering their children by publicising the schools they attend.
Zoning laws do not apply to public school land - so a developer can build whatever...
also 'block busting' the UWS might kick out a lot of rent stablized familes if they move land lords can do 'rennovations' and jack up the rent so it goes out of rent stabilized range.
Don't put anything past NY real estate developers, they are complete socipaths.Replies: @Triumph104
I always thought that the desegregation push was an attempt to privatize New York City public schools by running off the good teachers and functional families, of all races. Then once NYC schools hit New Orleans pre-Hurricane Katrina levels, all of the public schools could be converted to charters just like in New Orleans. There is a ton of money to be made with charter school real estate. Andre Agassi helped create two charter school-based mutual funds.
What you said about zoning laws and real estate developers adds another layer to the greed.
Hitler did ban home schooling and established commissars in every private school. The KKK succeeded in making catholic schools illegal in Oregon. First amendment overturned that.
KKK pressured legislators in many states to propose laws requiring all children to attend public schools. Legislators resisted. Ballot referendums banning non public school were put to the vote in many states but didn’t pass.
It’s a forgotten phase in American history.
It would be nice if we are honest and talk about filthy language, sexual activity as young as 8, continual daily and hourly physical and verbal abuse, robbery, bearings and sexual assaults.
That’s the problem with blacks. I honestly don’t see how mixing 80 IQ blacks with 110 IQ Whites hurts Whites.
But just listening them screeching and cursing all day will cause hearing problems even if the parents don’t mind 1st graders learning mofa and the n word.
It’s behavior, behavior, behavior and cursing. I love Steve Sailer.
But he needs to talk to now elderly retired school teachers who went from civilized White to savage primitive blacks to civilized Hispanics in a 40 year career.
He also needs to talk to people who endured the horrors of going to school with blacks
I'm not saying this because I disagree with her politics. When Obama spoke at the dinner a few years ago, he was actually funny and had decent delivery. Even Stephen Colbert, who's generally only mildly funny, is much better than her.
The problem wasn't that Michelle Wolf was "mean." Most of the people who speak at these dinners are "mean."
The problem was that the delivery was off. A lot of the "jokes" were strange or incomprehensible. The audience, which definitely was not full of Trump-friendly individuals, spent much of the time in awkward silence and cringed at quite a few of the jokes.
Watch here. You can start at 35 seconds. If you watch from 4:03 to 4:15, she tells a fairly crude joke.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L8IYPnnsYJw
There are funny liberals who hate Trump. She's not one of them. I don't know who the hell selected her.Replies: @JohnnyWalker123, @DCThrowback, @Jack D, @Canadian Observer, @Mr. Anon, @The Last Real Calvinist
Content aside, her voice is obnoxious. I can’t imagine having to listen to that nasal screeching for 20 minutes.
What is happening to the accents of younger Americans? Nasal vocal quality, uptalking — not to mention the overspreading of the entire vernacular by the kudzu-esque vulgarity that is ‘like’.
There’s been a huge increase in Indians in Chicago the last few years.
Shabbos goy
Reminds me, some months after 9/11, I was in college church. Quite to my amazement, before the service ended, the priest introduced an imam, who proceeded to tell us that Muslims believed in Jesus too, only “he isn’t quite the same guy.” (or some such.)
Makes one rather nostalgic for the hellfire sermons.
Over lots of dead bodies. There was just a rather mild regulatory bill before the CA Assembly… well, mild as the authors saw it… and the homeschoolers went ballistic. They deluged the Assembly with calls and letters and then on the day of the committee hearing, they lined the halls of the capitol. Guess what? The authors wouldn’t support their own bill. AB 2756.
there was another bad homeschooling bill that went down earlier in the week, too. AB2926.
Restricting homeschooling isn’t worth it for the left. It brings down way too much heat. And, I suspect, plenty of them have relatives that do it. Heck, there’s legislators that homeschool their own kids.
Kicking out the residents, who are squatting on billions of dollars worth of property and likely soaking up tons of other government benefits, would produce a windfall for the taxpayers of NYC and a gigantic number of jobs.
The average Manhattan apartment hit $2 million in 2016. If we conservatively say these public housing units are 20% less than that, we get $1.6 million. And the 2 million figure includes Harlem while I am excluding it.
Spend $100,000 per apartment cleaning it up and renovating it, and another $100,000 buying out and relocating the tenant, and we have a $1.4 million profit times 22,000 units. That is a gain of $31 billion for NYC taxpayers. On top of that, the new residents of the units, unlike the old ones, would pay property and income taxes, likely pay way more in sales taxes, and save the city all sorts of police and maintenance costs.
If the average household income of the new residents is $150,000, and between income/sales/property taxes they pay 5% of that to the city, that is another $165 million a year in tax revenue, which will only grow each year. The discounted present value of that stream is about another $5 billion.
Thus, the total benefit just to the city government of ending public housing in South of Harlem Manhattan would be at least $36 billion, without even getting into second order effects.
The new residents would also of course reap a large benefit. So would the all the people who would get jobs and profit from the renovation, for which I set aside $2.2 billion and would create about 1,000 FTE jobs for a year. While dumping thousands of units onto the Manhattan property market could hurt prices, the removal of the old residents would likely offset this by making Manhattan a safer and more prosperous place.
There would be an additional environmental benefit too. As Yglesias like to remind us, dense urban living results in less pollution. Many new residents of the converted projects would be people who work in Manhattan put commute from the suburbs. Fewer commuters produces a first order benefit from less driving and a second order benefit in the form of less pollution from the remaining vehicles which will on average be stuck in traffic a bit less, decreasing their wasted gas and pollution from idling and start and stopping.
Paul Ryan keeps wanting to cut middle class entitlements to finance his tax cuts for the rich. Meanwhile, gigantic public assets are being wasted on people who are permanent charges on the public welfare, who by and large hate the GOP and the middle and upper class Americans who support their free housing in million dollar neighborhood lifestyles.
At least, more modestly, cut off all HUD funding in high cost urban areas who can make up the money through gradual sell offs, sell the properties that are federally owned (not very many but I think there are a few), and change federal law as needed to facilitate local governments selling off their housing projects.Replies: @Jim Don Bob, @Dave Pinsen
Excellent analysis, but where TF are all these losers gonna go? Why should other communities have to eat shit to make “Manhattan a safer and more prosperous place”?
A lot of the dumb ass ideas that infect this country, such as mainstreaming below grade POCs into good schools, were great ideas as long as they hit only the Deplorables. They are not so great when they bite the GoodWhites in the ass.
It is hard for me to have sympathy for such liberal dopes. Sow the wind, reap the whirl wind.
Another option with very cheap housing are cities that have lost half their population and are full of empty houses, like Buffalo, Detroit, Gary, Cleveland, and St Louis. Many of those houses are too damaged to rehabilitate, but there are still plenty that are not.Replies: @Yak-15
Did you watch any of that? All Bill Maher does is insult people, scoff at Trump, and say f—. Why would anybody think that’s funny? He’s not even funny-looking; he’s just plain ugly.
Just what we need: a lot of smart, well-behaved, non-believing, left-wing Catholics running around.
Only illegals and, sometimes, rich foreign students (mostly Chinese) keep these schools alive. The rest are closing.
What is happening to the accents of younger Americans? Nasal vocal quality, uptalking -- not to mention the overspreading of the entire vernacular by the kudzu-esque vulgarity that is 'like'.Replies: @Art Deco
I suspect the voice is an affectation. She grew around Harrisburg, Pa. Linguists will tell you the generic American accent originated in Pennsylvania and Ohio. The Debbie Wasserman Schultz hairstyle, the tanning make-up, the grimacing DWS smile, and the raucous nasal voice. She’s doing a parody of a stand-up comic.
Kicking out the residents, who are squatting on billions of dollars worth of property and likely soaking up tons of other government benefits, would produce a windfall for the taxpayers of NYC and a gigantic number of jobs.
The average Manhattan apartment hit $2 million in 2016. If we conservatively say these public housing units are 20% less than that, we get $1.6 million. And the 2 million figure includes Harlem while I am excluding it.
Spend $100,000 per apartment cleaning it up and renovating it, and another $100,000 buying out and relocating the tenant, and we have a $1.4 million profit times 22,000 units. That is a gain of $31 billion for NYC taxpayers. On top of that, the new residents of the units, unlike the old ones, would pay property and income taxes, likely pay way more in sales taxes, and save the city all sorts of police and maintenance costs.
If the average household income of the new residents is $150,000, and between income/sales/property taxes they pay 5% of that to the city, that is another $165 million a year in tax revenue, which will only grow each year. The discounted present value of that stream is about another $5 billion.
Thus, the total benefit just to the city government of ending public housing in South of Harlem Manhattan would be at least $36 billion, without even getting into second order effects.
The new residents would also of course reap a large benefit. So would the all the people who would get jobs and profit from the renovation, for which I set aside $2.2 billion and would create about 1,000 FTE jobs for a year. While dumping thousands of units onto the Manhattan property market could hurt prices, the removal of the old residents would likely offset this by making Manhattan a safer and more prosperous place.
There would be an additional environmental benefit too. As Yglesias like to remind us, dense urban living results in less pollution. Many new residents of the converted projects would be people who work in Manhattan put commute from the suburbs. Fewer commuters produces a first order benefit from less driving and a second order benefit in the form of less pollution from the remaining vehicles which will on average be stuck in traffic a bit less, decreasing their wasted gas and pollution from idling and start and stopping.
Paul Ryan keeps wanting to cut middle class entitlements to finance his tax cuts for the rich. Meanwhile, gigantic public assets are being wasted on people who are permanent charges on the public welfare, who by and large hate the GOP and the middle and upper class Americans who support their free housing in million dollar neighborhood lifestyles.
At least, more modestly, cut off all HUD funding in high cost urban areas who can make up the money through gradual sell offs, sell the properties that are federally owned (not very many but I think there are a few), and change federal law as needed to facilitate local governments selling off their housing projects.Replies: @Jim Don Bob, @Dave Pinsen
I’ve been making a similar point about the folly of subsidizing poverty in expensive cities for years.
It is both inefficient and really unfair. Metro NYC has maybe 2 million poor people in it. Virtually all of them would like to have a nearly free Manhattan apartment. But we use a lottery to randomly give about 1 in 50 of them a Manhattan apartment. And it is such a sweet deal they will do anything they can to hold on to it, and certainly never get a job that pays enough they'd have to leave. The other 49, tough luck.
It is also horrible to have such valuable space that highly skilled workers pay $4000 a month for comparable units, but we instead house people who mostly don't work at all, or who have no special skills and make minimum wage.
And as I've told Steve in the Chicago black flight context, if the presence of a person causes disorder and harm to those around him, as is the case for many projects residents, then the worst place for them is a densely populated city where their presence affects so many more people. That's why hog farms are not put in the middle of Chicago.Replies: @Anonymous
Stuyvesant High School accepted just 9 black eighth graders for the upcoming school year, In total, just 1% percent of the admissions offers for Stuyvesant seats went to Black students....How does New York City allow Stuyvesant High to keep out Blacks and Latino Students ? How long can this continue ? Will the new chancellor address the lack of diversity at the best public schools in NYC ?Replies: @Ed
NYC doesn’t but NY state law does allow Stuyvesant to keep blacks out. See these debates aren’t old. The same arguments were made in the 70s. The same attempts to diversify elite schools. Back then though parents banded together and got the state to pass a low explicitly stating Stuyvesant and other schools admissions being test only.
I just talked to a Norwegian guy a few hours ago, and we quickly got into a big discussion about the general immigration issue. I can't remember who even started it, but the guy was just clueless, and I had to go through some of the basics. I doubt he learned anything, but at least he knows there are people out there that don't agree with his Lyin-Press-induced BS opinions.
I am assuming your wife wasn't there at the dinner party, is that right? Mine gets so upset when I challenge anyone on any political thing. I held my tongue at the zoo recently, but man, if my wife wasn't there ....Replies: @Alden
Speaking of zoos, when I was a kid the Oakland Ca black kids would invade the Zoo at night and kill the birds and torture the small deer and other animals unable to fight off several black savages armed wi dey mammas kitchen knives scissors etc.
In 1900 Oakland was considered a far superior place to live than foggy working class San Francisco.
It’s not true that location location location is the most important thing in real estate
Demographics demographics demographics is the most important thing in real estate.
.. and there are a few Catholic parishes in the US and Europe which have done exactly that. Many more have prominent “ALL are welcome” signs.
I hear the little word “schism” whispered more frequently every year. In my darker moods I wonder if it might not be a welcome thing.
This brings up the Principal who invokes the fake" I'm very upset and offended" bit (I bet the only thing that offends Mr. Zymek is non-fat frozen yogurt). This puts the parents in a bad spot. Now, they might have an inkling about how lower-class people in flyover country getting forcbily dieversified and called names for resisting feel. I doubt it though, as they are nothing but selfish. That part made me smile too.
Lastly, as they go home and sob, they will probably come up with a plan, and it may very well involve homeschooling, as many have discussed here. These are people who I'd venture to say have made fun of homeschoolers every single time they've ever been brought up to them, say, at dinner parties, by guys named Clifford. ;-} Smiles all around!Replies: @Joe Stalin, @Dave Pinsen
” I bet they’ve supported Big Gov their whole lives.”
Indeed; when the residents of Oak Park, Illinois actually voted in a HANDGUN BAN for themselves I laughed. Can residents of an urban area REALLY be that stupid? Yes indeed they can.
What you said about zoning laws and real estate developers adds another layer to the greed.Replies: @Steve Sailer
“Andre Agassi helped create two charter school-based mutual funds”
That’s pretty wild. Here’s an Institutional Investor article on these funds, but I can’t begin to fathom how they work:
https://www.institutionalinvestor.com/article/b14z9xxb6r02n5/andre-agassi-and-investor-bobby-turner-team-up-for-charter-schools
The real estate values of big city schools can be up to 9 figures: the newish RFK School on Wilshire Blvd. cost $588 million.
In fact, it's the most wonderful gift of all! Soon, we will all be swamped in it. They will be nowhere to run. (Not that we'd ever want to run away from such a glorious gift.)Replies: @Alden
Diversity, diarrhea dindu and dysentery all start with D
Just a thought.
You needn’t worry too much. The products of these schools are rarely Catholic — the schools themselves see to that. And there aren’t “a lot” — American liberal Catholics have few children, and the big traditionalist families keep their broods far, far away.
Only illegals and, sometimes, rich foreign students (mostly Chinese) keep these schools alive. The rest are closing.
Tim Snyder
There really aren’t any conservative Protestant schools.
Schools that call themselves Christian schools are conservative Protestants. They are the only ones
But they are only conservative in that they teach the old time “Jesus is my Lord and Savior”. “ The bible is true” etc. they are still against abortion. They keep quiet about gay issues.
But they are totally pro immigration and socialist economics and help th poor minorities help the poor miniritues etc.
The Christian schools in the south west often have sister schools in Mexico. The American kids sent clothes, toys and big Christmas packages and packages of back to school clothes to the Mexican kids. They also sponsor Mexican “ refugees”
I forget if the catholic or Christian schools started that.
A lot of the dumb ass ideas that infect this country, such as mainstreaming below grade POCs into good schools, were great ideas as long as they hit only the Deplorables. They are not so great when they bite the GoodWhites in the ass.
It is hard for me to have sympathy for such liberal dopes. Sow the wind, reap the whirl wind.Replies: @Lot, @Thin-Skinned Masta-Beta
Where are they going to go? Someplace they can afford with the $100,000 in relocation money I proposed. Most in NYC public housing are Puerto Ricans and Dominicans, who can buy a decent house on the home island for $25,000, or blacks with relations in the rural South with plenty of $30,000-$50,000 homes.
Another option with very cheap housing are cities that have lost half their population and are full of empty houses, like Buffalo, Detroit, Gary, Cleveland, and St Louis. Many of those houses are too damaged to rehabilitate, but there are still plenty that are not.
1. To establish reservations for the impoverished.
2. To isolate the extremely wealthy from the disastrous effects of their virtue signaling.
Are those going to be plausible? Will the have the desired positive effects?Replies: @Lot
“subsidizing poverty in expensive cities”
It is both inefficient and really unfair. Metro NYC has maybe 2 million poor people in it. Virtually all of them would like to have a nearly free Manhattan apartment. But we use a lottery to randomly give about 1 in 50 of them a Manhattan apartment. And it is such a sweet deal they will do anything they can to hold on to it, and certainly never get a job that pays enough they’d have to leave. The other 49, tough luck.
It is also horrible to have such valuable space that highly skilled workers pay $4000 a month for comparable units, but we instead house people who mostly don’t work at all, or who have no special skills and make minimum wage.
And as I’ve told Steve in the Chicago black flight context, if the presence of a person causes disorder and harm to those around him, as is the case for many projects residents, then the worst place for them is a densely populated city where their presence affects so many more people. That’s why hog farms are not put in the middle of Chicago.
this is where many of the people who work in main stream media live -do they at all see their own hypocrisy - typing away at HuffPost how racist whites are in Ferguson then telling their coworkers they have to leave early to attend a community board mtg about public school integration?
I think UWS Jews -and Jews in general- have lived with this kind of hypocrisy for a long time and are comfortable with it - after all they have been supporting Israel so a little issue about local public schools isn't going to phase them - if you point out their hypocrisy you're anti-semitic,that's all.
Chuck Schumer can be one of the strongest pro-abortion advocates then attend fundraisers and donate heavily to a cause that encourages jewish women to not have abortions... ...
but the people having cognitive dissonance are white liberals who were mostly raised in the affluent suburbs around NYC and now are living on the UWS.
All their lives they have been shielded from the consequences of their beliefs -which were really just displays of their status that they were, well, shielded from the consequences of their beliefs.. now the margin has eroded -as others have said- they don't quite have enough money to send one or two kids to private schools and real estate is getting more and more expensive so this is just enough to make living on the UWS untenable.
Prediction: they will become advocates of home schooling...Replies: @Alden
But the mothers of the former suburbanite SJW families all work at their wonderful careers. In those circles it’s very déclassé for the wife to not work, even if she has to create some non profit or “business” of her own
It’s also déclassé to be a nurse or the usual kind of night shift worker.
Those SJWs have worked to destroy me and mine since their commie goyim hating Christian hating ancestors arrived in 1880.
Big city Jews, like other big city Whites have been abused, driven from neighborhood to neighborhood, city to suburb, suburb to suburb since 1940.
But they still love to the point of worship blacks and viscerally hate the White Christian goyim.
They loved and elected Dinkins . They hated Guilliani because he cracked down on their beloved black criminals.
He is very ugly. And getting uglier as he ages.
Indeed; when the residents of Oak Park, Illinois actually voted in a HANDGUN BAN for themselves I laughed. Can residents of an urban area REALLY be that stupid? Yes indeed they can.Replies: @Alden
Isn’t Oak Park right across the boundary of one of the worst neighborhoods in Chicago?
I don’t know anything about it, but here are some ways to make money with charter school real estate:
http://www.nationalmemo.com/charter-school-operators-enrich-real-estate/
But it’s been made inconvenient to get from the Austin neighborhood to Oak Park. A lot of streets that connected the two were made into culdesacs.
You are right about the liberal propaganda. But they are still safe from the blacks and the kids learn good manners and civilized behavior.
And at least they are not full of blacks screeching and cursing all day long.
That’s my point about blacks. It’s behavior, not IQ or achievement.
Charter schools are one of several to discover and pursue the looting and subsidy possibilities in the Op Co / Prop Co model. One entity does the operations, say, run the school (or the health care facility), and the other entity does the brick and mortar. Triple net leases, depreciation, interesting tax positions all come into play, and if you can get some government(s) to pony up or rebate or abey then why not. Of course, the operating side might squeeze the deliverables somewhat so don’t look for fresh fruit, music classes or experienced stable teachers without some extra-curricular funding.
It is both inefficient and really unfair. Metro NYC has maybe 2 million poor people in it. Virtually all of them would like to have a nearly free Manhattan apartment. But we use a lottery to randomly give about 1 in 50 of them a Manhattan apartment. And it is such a sweet deal they will do anything they can to hold on to it, and certainly never get a job that pays enough they'd have to leave. The other 49, tough luck.
It is also horrible to have such valuable space that highly skilled workers pay $4000 a month for comparable units, but we instead house people who mostly don't work at all, or who have no special skills and make minimum wage.
And as I've told Steve in the Chicago black flight context, if the presence of a person causes disorder and harm to those around him, as is the case for many projects residents, then the worst place for them is a densely populated city where their presence affects so many more people. That's why hog farms are not put in the middle of Chicago.Replies: @Anonymous
I would make Manhattan much less attractive financially as a place to live by forcing the financial industry to geographically disperse, by creating as much financial expense as possible for real estate prices in the top .1 or .01 percent nationwide (which Trump has done to an extent by removing deductions for state and local taxes) and other measures as needed. Same with Silicon Valley and the best parts of LA.
“I suspect the voice is an affectation.”
Years of ADL/SPLC/HASBARA training have made the disinformation agent ART DECO an expert of seeing through disguises (and making some himself).
BONUS:
Interesting. Your dad must have done good work in the ’60s, because by the 70s the claim was that MCPS were among the best in the nation, including Churchill and Whitman High Schools. I’ve no idea how things are there now, although I can look it up…
https://www.usnews.com/education/best-high-schools/maryland/rankings
Wow. What happened to Whitman?? Also Wow: Fewer than half of MCPS students are now considered proficient in English. Sic transit…
What is even stranger is this from only a year earlier: http://bethesdamagazine.com/Bethesda-Beat/Web-2016/Montgomery-County-High-Schools-Rank-as-Top-Six-Public-Schools-in-the-State/
New York City is still benefiting from a partly local, partly national law & order reaction to the crack era crime wave. London seems to be dealing with a higher crime population than it’s had in the past, without the appropriate legal/law enforcement tools to handle it.
There was a recent jewel heist in London by a gang of machete-wielding moped riders. In New York, those guys would likely have been shot dead.
This brings up the Principal who invokes the fake" I'm very upset and offended" bit (I bet the only thing that offends Mr. Zymek is non-fat frozen yogurt). This puts the parents in a bad spot. Now, they might have an inkling about how lower-class people in flyover country getting forcbily dieversified and called names for resisting feel. I doubt it though, as they are nothing but selfish. That part made me smile too.
Lastly, as they go home and sob, they will probably come up with a plan, and it may very well involve homeschooling, as many have discussed here. These are people who I'd venture to say have made fun of homeschoolers every single time they've ever been brought up to them, say, at dinner parties, by guys named Clifford. ;-} Smiles all around!Replies: @Joe Stalin, @Dave Pinsen
Manhattan is a great place for homeschooling, thanks to all the museums and such, except for two minor problems: most residents can’t afford to have one parent stay home and teach the kids, and the ones that can afford to don’t want to, because they have higher status things to do.
A Manhattan-based venture capitalist I know, whose wife has a self-actualizing business, decided to home school his kids for a year or two by hiring a guide, as he called it, IIRC, for them. Basically, an adult who shared their interests and would chaperone them around the city, helping them pursue different projects. He said in his recruiting post for it that he was prepared to pay what he paid for their private schooling.
Not so. The Left believes in IQ whenever a condemned prisoner is scheduled to be executed. They invoke the “too dumb to die” defense by asserting it is inhumane to execute a criminal with an IQ below 70.
Stop for a second and look specifically at what they are proposing. It’s very odd. A quarter of admission slots will go not to underrepresented minorities, not to low income kids, but to low achievement kids (just among friends, low IQ).
Has this ever been an affirmative action standard, to specifically target low scoring kids, rather than the highest scoring kids within the favored population?
In general the (deluded) theory is either that descriminated-against blacks and Hispanics, once given a better educational environment, will improve and the gap will close, or that parents of poor families who can’t afford tutoring or are subjected to various life stresses, will improve, diamonds in the rough will be unearthed, and the gap will close.
Deliberately favoring kids who score low on tests? Huh?
So there is a state test. The scores fall in a normal distribution, a bell curve. “Grade level ” is arbitrarily defined in some way. Let’s say that it falls at the mean, so 50 percent fall below grade level.
Let’s say that they have 400 slots to fill and 1,000 candidate kids. Using rank order they choose the top 300, who could be any race or SES. Then they choose 501 through 600, the top group of kids below the average. So they don’t offer admission to those in the 301 through 500 range.
This gets even crazier if the standard deviation is greater, if the grade level is minus n SD, and if the pool is greater than 1,000.
So you are left with rejecting kids in the 301 through 500 range, who are above average but not brainiaces, and kids in the 601 through 1,000 range, who are dull and duller.
What is the rationale for not just using race, or family income? If race is no longer allowed under New York State law, would family income not be allowed? If family income were allowed, then you could definitely find a few kids in the 301 through 500 range. But maybe they tried that, and they skewed too white?
So are they throwing in the towel and thinking that although they want more blacks and Hispanics, they can’t use explicit race criteria, and they have discovered that the best correlation with NAM race is low IQ, so they are goiong with the low test scores as the factor to use?
Tracking fell out of favor in academic circles in the subsequent decades after the civil rights era but appears to be making a minor comeback.Replies: @Big Bill
Speaking of tracking, New York City has at least one weird “school-within-a-school” arrangement, in which two school organizations exist in the same building, sharing the same facilities, classrooms (I think) washrooms, etc. and have two different student bodies passing each other in the hallways, but having separate sets of books, separate student bodies, separate curricula, separate faculty.
When I read about it in the New York Times, it seemed to be a scam to avoid accusations of “tracking.” Instead of one school entity with bad racial statistics, you have two “schools” (in the same building), both with middling statistics.it is a way to provide a high quality education to the smart kids, while doing the best you can with the dumb ones.
Times have indeed changed. I almost bought a one-bedroom adjacent Bryant Park (NYPL) for $40K in 1993.
I'm sorry for your loss, Mr. B.
Ever seen Jesse Jackson in person? His features are very African. His skin is about the color of a banana skin. I was totally shocked.Replies: @Big Bill
Holder may well have been considered and un-mockingly called “white” in his Caribbean homeland. They have different racial gradations there.
A few years before he went to satellite he mentioned how his elderly parents got frisked at the local movie theater so the black theater-goers wouldn't feel like they were the only ones getting frisked.Replies: @Alden, @Big Bill
I had almost forgotten. The first (and last) time I was frisked at a movie theater was around 231st St. and Broadway in the Bronx. Someone told me that the local comprehensive high school had metal detectors and police officers at the door. Who wants to live in a prison?
http://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/385437-illinois-lawmakers-approve-plan-to-replace-armed-officers-in-schoolsReplies: @Wizard of Oz
Years of ADL/SPLC/HASBARA training have made the disinformation agent ART DECO an expert of seeing through disguises (and making some himself).
BONUS:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWRoEpYuHwIReplies: @Art Deco
You’re ‘hasbara’ kookery aside, people still don’t talk like that around Harrisburg.
Three flights of stairs!
This is noticing patterns; something the left hates, hates, hates.Replies: @Jack D
There are about 6x as many white people as blacks in the general population but, as I said before, among the stupid it’s about 1:1, so roughly speaking the odds of a random black person being dumb are about 6x greater than for a randomly chose white. This also roughly lines up with other indicators of stupidity such as criminality, being on the welfare roles, etc. In raw numbers, blacks and whites are usually roughly equal on these measures but again there are 6x as many whites so the rate for blacks is (at least) 6x greater.
Which is a significant factor but nothing compared to the odds of a random black person being smart. If you look at the area of the graph to the right of 115 IQ, the ratio between blacks and whites is astronomical. For example, in 2005, 1,132 blacks scored 700 or above on the math SAT and 51,587 whites. (Since every prestigious university is shooting for at least a 10% black enrollment, this creates a huge gap between supply and demand – the demand for smart blacks is in the many of thousands but the supply is very limited). In TV commercials this gap is easily solved – you just put blacks in lab coats or make them wear glasses, and viola! instant smart black people, but in real life it’s not that simple.
http://www.jbhe.com/features/49_college_admissions-test.html
Which is a significant factor but nothing compared to the odds of a random black person being smart. If you look at the area of the graph to the right of 115 IQ, the ratio between blacks and whites is astronomical. For example, in 2005, 1,132 blacks scored 700 or above on the math SAT and 51,587 whites. (Since every prestigious university is shooting for at least a 10% black enrollment, this creates a huge gap between supply and demand - the demand for smart blacks is in the many of thousands but the supply is very limited). In TV commercials this gap is easily solved - you just put blacks in lab coats or make them wear glasses, and viola! instant smart black people, but in real life it's not that simple.
http://www.jbhe.com/features/49_college_admissions-test.htmlReplies: @Anon
Below about IQ 70 there are about two or three times the number of blacks to whites, in absolute numbers, not percentages. This is at the root of special education classes being mostly black, leading to a court decision in California restricting the use of IQ tests for placement in mentally retarded classes. Teachers had to decide, and there was pressure to not special ed too many black kids. They stayed in normal classes, not understanding a thing, and acting out as a result. So they were disciplined, disproportionately. That was noticed. It never ends.
Oh what a tangled web we weave, whem first we practice to not recognize group IQ differences.
They don’t act out or disrupt classes. They just endure quietly like the dumb White kids do.
And the normal 90 to 100 IQ black kids disrupt classes, screech and yell and rampage around as much as the minus 80 IQ black kids do.
It’s not IQ, it’s race differences in behavior.
Another option with very cheap housing are cities that have lost half their population and are full of empty houses, like Buffalo, Detroit, Gary, Cleveland, and St Louis. Many of those houses are too damaged to rehabilitate, but there are still plenty that are not.Replies: @Yak-15
In essence, you are proposing two things:
1. To establish reservations for the impoverished.
2. To isolate the extremely wealthy from the disastrous effects of their virtue signaling.
Are those going to be plausible? Will the have the desired positive effects?
I hear the little word "schism" whispered more frequently every year. In my darker moods I wonder if it might not be a welcome thing.Replies: @Old Palo Altan
A welcome thing? Schism is the only thing which will save orthodox Catholicism. The others are the ones in schism – from the Catholic Faith. So break with them, right up to Frank, and save your soul.
Obviously, the Mexican who went to Northern Arizona got the job as an affirmative-action gig...Replies: @J.Ross
I don’t know if MIT has an education program but I don’t see that it matters, education programs are a worst case scenario of ignoring reality and workshopping, and the aptitude and organizational skills of any MIT grad are enough to recommend them to plenty of jobs they did not specifically train for.
Illinois House approves plan to replace armed officers in schools with mental health professionals.
http://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/385437-illinois-lawmakers-approve-plan-to-replace-armed-officers-in-schools
The 1968 riots in Washington pushed a lot of middle and upper middle class whites into Maryland and Virginia. My parents left in the early 60’s but lots of their friends followed after 1968.
DC is unique among American cities in that for whites seeking to escape urban black dysfunction, going a few miles in any direction puts them in a completely different state. This makes it much tougher or impossible for the blacks they’re fleeing to be “integrated” with them in their new schools.
It was easier for blacks to follow their oppressors into Maryland because Prince George’s County (for example) had more multi-family housing and is often literally just across a road from DC.
Not too many DC blacks were buying houses in Virginia (though Arlington and Alexandria were more urbanized and had a number blacks). Also to get to Virginia you have to cross the Potomac River, sort of a psychological barrier. The late Congressman Stan Parris (Virginia) once cracked “the 14th Street Bridge is the longest bridge in the world. It runs from Virginia to Africa”.
By the 1970’s the suburban DC public schools in Maryland and Virginia were quite good, in large part because of white flight.
The White federal workers moved to Virginia and preserved civilization.
Just what I’ve picked up here and there.Replies: @Art Deco, @William Badwhite
A Manhattan-based venture capitalist I know, whose wife has a self-actualizing business, decided to home school his kids for a year or two by hiring a guide, as he called it, IIRC, for them. Basically, an adult who shared their interests and would chaperone them around the city, helping them pursue different projects. He said in his recruiting post for it that he was prepared to pay what he paid for their private schooling.Replies: @Marina
The other problem with NYC homeschooling is the awful, awful regulatory environment, which takes the already among-the-worst-in-the-country NY State regulations and adds an extra layer of dysfunction. I’m homeschooling my eldest now,* and we have a hard deadline of leaving for laxer NJ or CT by the time eldest is compulsory schooling age. I’m on an email list for NYC Homeschoolers and the bureaucratic harassment can be pretty intense.
https://hslda.org/content/hs/state/NY/
The number of homeschoolers is also low enough, and transportation hard enough, that it’s hard to get a critical mass of HSers so you can do stuff together. I wanted to put my eldest in a program in another part of the borough that sounded cool, but it might as well be on Mars for how hard and expensive it is to get there. It looked fun, but not worth over $100 in cab rides or 2 hours one way on mass transit each session.
*Insofar as anything a preschooler does is school.
The 1968 riots in Washington pushed a lot of middle and upper middle class whites into Maryland and Virginia. My parents left in the early 60′s but lots of their friends followed after 1968.
DC’s population was at it’s peak in 1946. It declined pretty consistently for 50-0dd years before a partial reversal set in around 15 years ago. The rate of decline between 1966 and 1980 was constant.
About 2/3 of the dense settlement around Washington was in the District in 1950. Now it’s about 15%. That’s mostly attributable to a 3.5-fold increase in the population of the whole settlement, though there’s been some hollowing out of the core tool. Given what a catastrophe DC was 25 years ago, it’s surprising it’s demographic implosion wasn’t worse. DC is vastly safer now and Prince George’s County is somewhat safer. The rest of the area is passably tranquil.
Can you guess anything happening right around 1946 that would have caused DC's population to go down? Hint: google "when did WW2 end".
"The rate of decline between 1966 and 1980 was constant."
You are referring to overall population, I was referring to a specific subset of that population.Replies: @Art Deco
1. To establish reservations for the impoverished.
2. To isolate the extremely wealthy from the disastrous effects of their virtue signaling.
Are those going to be plausible? Will the have the desired positive effects?Replies: @Lot
Nobody will be forced to go anywhere. But if they want to get government benefits for the rest of their lives, sure.
The wealthy are always able to isolate themselves. It is more about density. Neither hog farms nor crazy bums ranting about the CIA belong in the middle of cities where they disturb the most people.
There is also the type of robbery where a car is used to crash through the store window and security awning.
So I really wonder how isolated and safe those gated communities are, if push comes to shove. If enough angry "youths" showed up in cars or on motorcycles, there's no way to keep them out. And what is guarding the perimeter? Other people's houses and hedges? With numbers I don't see the police being of much help.
If I were a wealthy person in a gated community, I'd be an NRA member and be well armed. Make the neighbors' houses look more appealing.Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Alden
Spergy the Librarian knows how to google, isn’t that cute.
Can you guess anything happening right around 1946 that would have caused DC’s population to go down? Hint: google “when did WW2 end”.
“The rate of decline between 1966 and 1980 was constant.”
You are referring to overall population, I was referring to a specific subset of that population.
Spergy the Librarian knows how to google, isn’t that cute. If you're going to plaagiarize, you might at least select someone more deft than Mr. Anon to steal from.
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I’m sorry for your loss, Mr. B.
But now the towns and villages along the Hudson River and on Long Island have gang problems. Kingston, Newburgh, et cetera. I’m starting to think penal colonies would be a better solution.
Then of course they turned Newburgh into a ghetto. The Oakland ca ghetto spread all over the east bay.
Chicago blacks followed the freeway and railroad all the way to Wisconsin seeking $50 a month better welfare and cheaper housing I remember reading something about the discipline problems just 10 percent newly arrived blacks caused in the Kenosha public school system.Replies: @Art Deco
The shot callers in NYC real estate don’t send their kids to public schools. No one with real wealth does, as I stated.
Real estate developers could care less about NYC public schools.
The film of that name was indeed set in Brooklyn. The title, however, comes from the diaroma at the American Museum of Natural History (located, as noted in Mr. Sailer’s post, just half-a-block from the school-in-question) that features prominently in said film.
Incidentally, I am curious whether Mr. Sailer reviewed the film and what he thought of it.
In the part of the UWS where the school and iconic landmark Museum are located? $4500.00 in the current market for a decent two-bedroom rental? Perhaps if it were very small (to the point of being cramped), had no view to speak of, little daylight, and be in a building without a doorman (excuse me, doorperson…). Possibly not even a communal laundry room.
A lot of the dumb ass ideas that infect this country, such as mainstreaming below grade POCs into good schools, were great ideas as long as they hit only the Deplorables. They are not so great when they bite the GoodWhites in the ass.
It is hard for me to have sympathy for such liberal dopes. Sow the wind, reap the whirl wind.Replies: @Lot, @Thin-Skinned Masta-Beta
“Where are all the losers going to go?”
Make it even more generous > $250K, build them a lovely Club Med in Liberia and call it final reckoning for reparations.
What would the net present value of all the transfer payments, social welfare benefits, health care spending, law enforcement & criminal justice “services” amount too?
If Gates & Buffett really want to do some good with their foundations, expatriation settlement funds / launch assistance would yield tremendous social dividends.
“Incidentally, I am curious whether Mr. Sailer reviewed the film and what he thought of it.”
The Squid and the Whale is a real good comedy-drama about divorce with a great performance by Jeff Daniels, who I think has still not gotten an Oscar nomination.
Noah Baumbach is one of Hollywood’s top script doctors and his own movies can be pretty good in the Woody Allen vein. His most recent opens with ten minutes of Adam Sandler driving around looking for a NYC parking place and it’s intended to remind people that there are good reasons why Sandler is a movie star.
Yesterday I was watching “flash mob robbery” or “flash rob” videos on YouTube, where a dozen or two hundred “youths” enter a store and walk out with its merchandise. There is nothing the staff can do. There is nothing that one or six armed security guys could do.
There is also the type of robbery where a car is used to crash through the store window and security awning.
So I really wonder how isolated and safe those gated communities are, if push comes to shove. If enough angry “youths” showed up in cars or on motorcycles, there’s no way to keep them out. And what is guarding the perimeter? Other people’s houses and hedges? With numbers I don’t see the police being of much help.
If I were a wealthy person in a gated community, I’d be an NRA member and be well armed. Make the neighbors’ houses look more appealing.
Evan if they work from home they have to leave for meetings. Most people are raped and robbed out in public, not at home.
There is also the type of robbery where a car is used to crash through the store window and security awning.
So I really wonder how isolated and safe those gated communities are, if push comes to shove. If enough angry "youths" showed up in cars or on motorcycles, there's no way to keep them out. And what is guarding the perimeter? Other people's houses and hedges? With numbers I don't see the police being of much help.
If I were a wealthy person in a gated community, I'd be an NRA member and be well armed. Make the neighbors' houses look more appealing.Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Alden
“If I were a wealthy person in a gated community, I’d be an NRA member and be well armed.”
My impression is that’s pretty common in the gated communities in the Hollywood Hills.
Can you guess anything happening right around 1946 that would have caused DC's population to go down? Hint: google "when did WW2 end".
"The rate of decline between 1966 and 1980 was constant."
You are referring to overall population, I was referring to a specific subset of that population.Replies: @Art Deco
The population of the whole metropolitan settlement did not decrease, nor was there a radical decline in the population of the core city after 1946. They had the same experience other core cities had in loci where municipal annexation was not practiced.
Spergy the Librarian knows how to google, isn’t that cute.
If you’re going to plaagiarize, you might at least select someone more deft than Mr. Anon to steal from.
Thank you. I take it, then, that you did not publish a review of the film anywhere.
I particularly enjoyed the pretentious antics of the older son (Jesse Eisenberg), mimicking his father, such as when he snobbishly dismissed A Tale of Two Cities as “middling Dickens”; the whole scene with the school psychologist (questions his credentials; dismisses his plagiarism as “a mere technicality”, etc.).
And, of course, could I not have been charmed and moved by Owen Kline as the younger son? Speaking of Owen Kline, I see that he directed a film that seems to be scheduled for release in 2019. From the brief synopsis at IMDB, it sounds like the type of material that is likely to at least be mentioned here at iSteve.
It would be helpful if someone could quantify this: In that neighborhood what would the average white kid's IQ be, and what would the effect be of letting the top 25 percent of the poor kids in? What is their average IQ? How would that affect the teaching, exactly? Whatever is wrong with the mental ability of the poor kids, it's not going to be fixed in the first week of a diverse class, so everyone suffers.
I love the guy who talks about giving $5,000 worth of tutoring to each poor kid, as though that is the problem and things would be equalized. Test tutoring is mostly a placebo even for rich kids, but it would have zero effect on poor kids. You don't torture naturally poor musicians and athletes by forcing them to take tutoring. This is like gay conversion therapy.
As far as diversity goes, the way it was done in my high school in Los Angeles in the early 1970s was that a few black kids were bussed in, and then everyone was tracked according to his ability in academic classes. You had a few black kids in the smart classes, but mostly they were in the normal classes. The diversity happened on the athletic field, the band, orchestra, choir, and drama classes, home ec and shop, and places like that. You didn't try to mix people with different brain power in cognitive classes. People made friends in those classes. It left the black kids who were dumb with some self respect, since they weren't forced into classes where they would not do well, in front of everyone else. Common sense. We no longer have that. Of course we no longer have a lot of these non-academic classes anymore.Replies: @Mishra, @Jack D, @Ed, @Alden, @Dissident
Correct me if I am mistaken, but from that last sentence (which I took the liberty of highlighting), it would appear to me as if you are convinced that sexual orientation is always, without exception, both innate as well as immutable? Or at least of one of those two doctrinal assertions that the ascendant orthodoxy demands complete, unquestioning faith in.
But if immutable, how, then to account for The Lesbian Past of Bill de Blasio’s Wife? Or the case of John Maynard Keynes, who, according to our host at least, “converted, permanently, from a homosexual lifestyle to a heterosexual lifestyle“?
Granted, more info would be required about such cases before any real (and certainly general) conclusions could legitimately be drawn from them. All the more-so as they both involve fully-grown adults. But what about adolescents? The possibility that sexuality may, at least in some cases, remain fluid (and therefore subject to being molded by experience and influence) at least until some point in adolescence? Would you honestly not allow for even that much?
Karma’s a bitch…innit?
When these people actually start getting what they voted for, look how happy it makes them. They made that bed very fitting that now their kids have to lie in it.
The boldness of Chancellor Carranza’s words and the nakedness and intensity of the resulting brouhaha may be unprecedented. But such battles over integration and demographics of local public schools are, far from anything new, actually perennial on Manhattan’s Upper West Side. (The amusing, if not sordid, spectacle has been described by John Derbyshire in a Radio Derb edition from sometime during the past few years.)
Schools Chancellor’s Racially Charged Tweet Could Derail Progress on Parent-Led School Diversity Plan is the headline for the story at the West Side Rag, a local hybrid news-blog site.
“far-right”…
If you find it amusing to watch preening, insufferably sanctimonious and condescending, self-caricaturing Diversity for thee but not for me! Goodwhite-types duke it out as they cannibalize each other, then put up some coffee, grab some snacks, kick-back and start scrolling through the comments, now up to 113.
A near-constant topic of contention in West Side Rag threads are the rent regulations (rent-control and rent-stabilization, to be exact) that a not-insignificant number of rental properties in the area are still subject-to.
Also good for a laugh or two is this story and its comments, about residents of a Trump-branded property on the UWS clamoring to have The Deplorable One’s name removed from their buildings.
https://www.usnews.com/education/best-high-schools/maryland/districts/montgomery-county-public-schools/walt-whitman-high-9150
Whitman’s proficiency numbers are terrible. What is going on there? Triumph104, do you know?
What is even stranger is this from only a year earlier: http://bethesdamagazine.com/Bethesda-Beat/Web-2016/Montgomery-County-High-Schools-Rank-as-Top-Six-Public-Schools-in-the-State/
According to school teachers I know, there are plenty of dumb Hispanic kids in regular classes.
They don’t act out or disrupt classes. They just endure quietly like the dumb White kids do.
And the normal 90 to 100 IQ black kids disrupt classes, screech and yell and rampage around as much as the minus 80 IQ black kids do.
It’s not IQ, it’s race differences in behavior.
I have always had the impression that the black federal government workers moved to Maryland and helped turn it into a crime ridden ghetto.
The White federal workers moved to Virginia and preserved civilization.
Just what I’ve picked up here and there.
Prince George's County has swatches of affluence and swatches of slum. Montgomery County is satisfactory (and, in parts, verrry pricey). There are large black populations in parts of NoVa, but it's generally safe.
The black shares in NoVa are
Alexandria: 21.5%
Prince William County: 20.5%
Manassas: 14%
Manassas Park: 13%
Fairfax County: 9.5%
Arlington County: 8.5%
Loudon County: 7.5%
Falls Church: 5.5%
Fairfax [city]: 5%
Except for Alexandria, none of the municipalities had any homicides in 2015. The homicide rates for the other five jurisdictions were between 0.4 and 2.5 per 100,000.
Montgomery County, Md. is 18% black. Homicide rate was 2.9 per 100,000 in 2015 and 1.5 per 100,000 in 2016.
Prince George's County, Md. is 63% black. Homicide rate was 7.5 per 100,000 in 2015. and 4.5 per 100,000 in 2014.
DC is 48% black. Homicide rate's been about 20 per 100,000 in recent years.
Hasn’t Newburgh been a ghetto since around 1970 when NYC blacks discovered they could get the same welfare but a lower crime rate in Newburgh?
Then of course they turned Newburgh into a ghetto. The Oakland ca ghetto spread all over the east bay.
Chicago blacks followed the freeway and railroad all the way to Wisconsin seeking $50 a month better welfare and cheaper housing I remember reading something about the discipline problems just 10 percent newly arrived blacks caused in the Kenosha public school system.
There is also the type of robbery where a car is used to crash through the store window and security awning.
So I really wonder how isolated and safe those gated communities are, if push comes to shove. If enough angry "youths" showed up in cars or on motorcycles, there's no way to keep them out. And what is guarding the perimeter? Other people's houses and hedges? With numbers I don't see the police being of much help.
If I were a wealthy person in a gated community, I'd be an NRA member and be well armed. Make the neighbors' houses look more appealing.Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Alden
The thing about gated communities is that they have to leave the community for school, shopping and work.
Evan if they work from home they have to leave for meetings. Most people are raped and robbed out in public, not at home.
The White federal workers moved to Virginia and preserved civilization.
Just what I’ve picked up here and there.Replies: @Art Deco, @William Badwhite
I have always had the impression that the black federal government workers moved to Maryland and helped turn it into a crime ridden ghetto.
Prince George’s County has swatches of affluence and swatches of slum. Montgomery County is satisfactory (and, in parts, verrry pricey). There are large black populations in parts of NoVa, but it’s generally safe.
The black shares in NoVa are
Alexandria: 21.5%
Prince William County: 20.5%
Manassas: 14%
Manassas Park: 13%
Fairfax County: 9.5%
Arlington County: 8.5%
Loudon County: 7.5%
Falls Church: 5.5%
Fairfax [city]: 5%
Except for Alexandria, none of the municipalities had any homicides in 2015. The homicide rates for the other five jurisdictions were between 0.4 and 2.5 per 100,000.
Montgomery County, Md. is 18% black. Homicide rate was 2.9 per 100,000 in 2015 and 1.5 per 100,000 in 2016.
Prince George’s County, Md. is 63% black. Homicide rate was 7.5 per 100,000 in 2015. and 4.5 per 100,000 in 2014.
DC is 48% black. Homicide rate’s been about 20 per 100,000 in recent years.
Then of course they turned Newburgh into a ghetto. The Oakland ca ghetto spread all over the east bay.
Chicago blacks followed the freeway and railroad all the way to Wisconsin seeking $50 a month better welfare and cheaper housing I remember reading something about the discipline problems just 10 percent newly arrived blacks caused in the Kenosha public school system.Replies: @Art Deco
Newbergh accounts for about 20% of an urban blob located on both sides of the Hudson, half in Orange County and half in Dutchess County. About 1/4 of the population is black. It’s more a hispanic town as they are 1/2 the population. The homicide rate is about 14 per 100,000, which would have been average in a metropolitan center at one time, but is now high. The hispanic mix is odd for New York (few Dominicans). About 40% are Mexican, 20% Puerto Rican, 14% Central American, 12% South American, and 10% Iberian.
The White federal workers moved to Virginia and preserved civilization.
Just what I’ve picked up here and there.Replies: @Art Deco, @William Badwhite
Prince Georges County (MD) is not great crime-wise, but is still vastly better than say, Baltimore. Most blacks in PG County are if not employed themselves, know someone that is. Granted, its almost entirely government employment (or diversicrat jobs at government contractors), but still, they’re mostly employed.
Virginia was civilized for two plus centuries before the federal workers moved there. Given their voting patterns, they’re actively working to make it less civilized. Northern Virginia is how some bagman for the Clinton’s became governor. I don’t believe Arlington has had a Republican on the county board since the early 90’s. Maybe Sperg Deco can google that for us.
1. Employment-to-population ratios for black Americans are mildly depressed - perhaps 10% lower than those for other racial categories.
2. Roughly 17% of the black workforce in this country is in the public sector.
3. In the Washington commuter belt, about 18% of the whole work force are employed by public agencies.
http://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/385437-illinois-lawmakers-approve-plan-to-replace-armed-officers-in-schoolsReplies: @Wizard of Oz
It would be nice if we could replace armed officers at the Illinois legislature’s offices with mental health professionals.
Prince Georges County (MD) is not great crime-wise, but is still vastly better than say, Baltimore. Most blacks in PG County are if not employed themselves, know someone that is. Granted, its almost entirely government employment (or diversicrat jobs at government contractors), but still, they’re mostly employed.
1. Employment-to-population ratios for black Americans are mildly depressed – perhaps 10% lower than those for other racial categories.
2. Roughly 17% of the black workforce in this country is in the public sector.
3. In the Washington commuter belt, about 18% of the whole work force are employed by public agencies.
The placement tests apparently have a scoring range of 1 to 4, integers only.
Why on earth is that? You can score 1, 2, 3, or 4. Is this an attempt to further obfuscate things from tricky statistical reverse engineers like La Griffe du Lion? It’s hard to extract a mean and standard deviation with so little granularity in the data.
One result seems to be that a kid’s placement score becomes quite the scarlet letter, at least within the family. “Our daughter is a 2!”
"My child got a 9.5 APGAR score".
The conventional approach would seem to result in an integer score, although for a small honorarium some accommodation might be made.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apgar_score
Why on earth is that? You can score 1, 2, 3, or 4. Is this an attempt to further obfuscate things from tricky statistical reverse engineers like La Griffe du Lion? It's hard to extract a mean and standard deviation with so little granularity in the data.
One result seems to be that a kid's placement score becomes quite the scarlet letter, at least within the family. "Our daughter is a 2!"Replies: @Ivy
Grade inflation is everywhere and starts early. Here is one example:
“My child got a 9.5 APGAR score”.
The conventional approach would seem to result in an integer score, although for a small honorarium some accommodation might be made.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apgar_score
If they’re going to go after whites, it’s only right that they go after the upper crust, too.
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