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A U.S. Navy boatswain’s mate has posted on Facebook:

So I went to get a shake after the chiropractor and as I got out of my car all I hear is “you one of them neo-nazi?” As the dude was swinging a small pocket knife over my car door …. then he took off running and I was just sitting there in shock like what the heck dude

Keep in mind that I don’t have proof that this happened the way he said it did.

But it says a lot about America’s pre-eclipse lunacy over the racist evil spirit menace that it sounds plausible.

There are always a lot of crazy people in this world. But when highly respectable and influential people allow themselves to go nuts, the nuts can follow along.

 
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  1. This is only going to keep getting worse, and there’s nothing we can do to stop it.

    • Replies: @Amasius
    Because we've got no goddamn leadership. We needed Julian and we got Foolian.
    , @notanon
    sure there is

    the media have been getting increasingly hysterical in proportion to loss of trust - hard to maintain this level of hysteria without actual armed Red Guards shooting people.

    hold the line long enough - combined with incendiary trolling to fan the flames - and the media's hysteria should burn out.
    , @Chrisnonymous
    Actually, I thought the suggestion on another thread of taking the energy out of antifa by setting up fake neo-Nazi rallies that nobody goes to was a pretty good way of fighting back.
    , @SteveRogers42
    Train and make ready.
    , @Anonymous
    "This is only going to keep getting worse, and there’s nothing we can do to stop it."

    The first part of that sentence is true.
    , @Anonymous
    It's best to move to overwhelmingly white (or white+Asian) enclaves, preferably ones which tend to vote and behave conservative. Let the animals tear each other apart.
    , @Rod1963
    That's right.

    It's a movement with it's own intrinsic momentum and assisted externally by the MSM, Democratic Party, Silicon Valley elites and shadowy billionaires like Soros who bankroll and organize the various sub groups to ensure they are supported and stay motivated.

    They're just getting warmed up. The statues are the first thing - in short a trial run to see how much the people and local pols will tolerate. The counter protests show that cities side with anti-fa and against conservatives and 1A supporters. They see the GOP either silent or siding with them against Trump and the 1st Amendment. The DOJ won't even investigate anti-fa.

    Eventually states will start passing anti-1A legislation and nothing will be said about it. After that comes corporations like Google shutting down alt-right sites and Sailer will be reduced to sending out pamphlets in the mail.

    This is already happening with anti-jihad sites.
    https://www.jihadwatch.org/2017/08/propublica-working-with-google-to-document-hate-threatens-counter-jihad-bloggers

    Paypal is already kicking some off like Jihadwatch.org

    We need to keep in mind this is all about declaring war on deplorables/dirt people who refuse to go along with the globalist/anti-American/anti-white agenda of the elites. It's not going to stop.
    , @Simply Simon
    The situation has to reach critical mass before something can be done to stop it.
  2. He spoke to the New York Post: http://nypost.com/2017/08/19/man-stabbed-after-haircut-gets-him-mistaken-for-a-neo-nazi/ (mostly to add that his friends think it’s his haircut that fingered him).

    • Agree: Hibernian
    • Replies: @Barnard
    The nationalization of these stories is strange. If this happened to me and the New York Post contacted me, my first question would be why are they writing about it.
  3. the media lost control of the narrative and are trying to compensate by being more hysterical and as a result all their media zombies are becoming more hysterical also

    bumpy ride ahead for a while until it burns itself out like a fever

    (hopefully)

    • Replies: @Stealth
    They haven't lost control of a damn thing.
  4. @Kevin C.
    This is only going to keep getting worse, and there's nothing we can do to stop it.

    Because we’ve got no goddamn leadership. We needed Julian and we got Foolian.

  5. I like this. Not what happened to the poor guy but how deranged so many people are becoming.

    It’s like rabies reaches a critical stage. It seems this nation is reaching it.

    With loons accusing everyone of being ‘nazi’, it won’t mean a thing.

    • Replies: @Anon
    When everyone is a Nazi, no one is.
  6. You mean to tell me that it’s not all about social justice, racial equality under the law, and, especially, love not hate?

    From a very woke white-boy, overflowing with love not hate:

    The Coastal White Liberal Who Is Shocked About Racism Thinkpiece Template

    White culture is defined by the nu-Plantation atmospheres that can only exist in Caucasian enclaves. Like the whole culture of white guys in khakis, polos, and Topsiders. Women in their early 20s wearing pearls and modest periwinkle blue v-necks mid-length dresses. Those 60s style headbands that white women want to bring back, too. They dress up like gentlemen and ladies, you know… from the good old days**. Ignore the fact that these outfits are the third most racist thing you can wear; right behind bedsheets and blackface.

    (**When black people drank from different water fountains.)

    Your friends went to low-key racist universities because their parents were uncomfortable with the prospect of their daughter fucking a black guy. They want their daughter coming home for a Trevor for Thanksgiving — not a Tyrone.”

    You, the white, upper middle class, have a dilemma here. You’re the proud beneficiary of centuries of white manufactured wealth. Your ancestors were awarded this nation, given all its land, and up until recently, also blocked non-whites from receiving government benefits like education, loans, housing, etc.

    Big idea: Forget the past. Focus on the future. It’s the white thinkpiece thing to do.

    • Replies: @Jus' Sayin'...
    It looks like TD found a new forum. When is he going to start writing for the Onion?
    , @Anonymous
    "Like the whole culture of white guys in khakis, polos, and Topsiders. Women in their early 20s wearing pearls and modest periwinkle blue v-necks mid-length dresses. Those 60s style headbands that white women want to bring back, too. They dress up like gentlemen and ladies, you know… from the good old days**. Ignore the fact that these outfits are the third most racist thing you can wear; right behind bedsheets and blackface."

    Okay. So, let me get this straight. I dress like a typical white guy, or my wife dresses like a typical white woman, we're being racist. Yet, what would you tell me if I were to dress in a hippie Mexican shirt, or my wife wears a dashiki? That we're engaging in "cultural appropriation" and being racist. Pretty clear you just buy into the BS of the day that if we're white we're being racist simply by existing.

    And when you catch some blowback for your irrational childish beliefs and behavior towards us, oh, that was the 'racism' you 'knew was there' all along.

    , @Anonymous
    I used to feel sorry for libtard twenty-somethings, but increasingly I really don't care what misery they bring upon themselves, given how destructive they are to the world.
  7. @Anon
    I like this. Not what happened to the poor guy but how deranged so many people are becoming.

    It's like rabies reaches a critical stage. It seems this nation is reaching it.

    With loons accusing everyone of being 'nazi', it won't mean a thing.

    When everyone is a Nazi, no one is.

  8. Statue of first Catholic Supreme Court justice removed because he wrote Dred Scott decision

    Maryland Gov. Larry Hogan, a Republican, said this week that removing the statue of Taney in Annapolis was “the right thing to do.” Republican Lt. Gov. Boyd Rutherford voted on behalf of the administration to remove the statue.

    • Replies: @eah
    https://twitter.com/PersianRose1/status/898158010148593664
    , @Jim Don Bob
    Next! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taneytown,_Maryland
    , @CCZ
    The last surviving December 7, 1941 Pearl Harbor docked ship is permanently [to be determined ??] moored in Baltimore’s Inner Harbor, the Coast Guard cutter / USN destroyer ROGER B. TANEY.

    "On the eve of Pearl Harbor, Taney was officially assigned to the US Navy's Destroyer Division 80, though she retained her Coast Guard crew. When Japanese aircraft attacked Pearl Harbor and other American military installations in Hawaii on 7 December 1941, Taney was tied up at Pier 6, Honolulu, where she was able to repeatedly engage Japanese planes which over flew the city. On 7 December 1986, after more than 50 years of continuous service, Taney was decommissioned at Portsmouth, Virginia, and donated to the City of Baltimore to serve as a memorial and museum."

    The USCG Taney: What becomes of her?

    She bears the villainous name Rodger B. Taney.

    https://laststandonzombieisland.com/2011/12/11/last-pearl-harbor-surviving-ship/
  9. World famous Photographer Wolfgang Tillmans today in the German sunday paper “Die Welt” in an interview he did with the Social Democrat candidate Martin Schulz:

    “Mr. Schulz, I think, that the most important task in living together is, to hinder the asshole-types.”

    Die Welt runs these words over half a page! – These words are touted with the biggest letters I’ve seen so far as the very essance of the interview.

    Tillmans being a worldwide acclaimed aesthete (=artist), I tend to answer with an aesthetical term myself: Such words don’t express (can not express) the spirit of citizenship (of reason) – they’re unsound, disturbed – and distrurbing.

    PS
    Tillmans grew world-famous in the London scene of the nineties as a wavy and witty art-punk-photographer. Nothing wrong ith that, as long as you don’t confuse the realms of art and those of a reasonable public discourse. Those realms are not – THEY ARE NOT – the same. You have to seperate them , if you want to get along in a liberal and respectful modern and humane modern society.

    (He who does not believe me: Read Habermas Philosophical Dicourse on Modernity, especially the chapters on Bataille, Foucault, Derrida on the one hand and on the other hand especially the chapter (most important – and most brilliant!) about Friedrich Schiller’s Letters on the Aesthetic Eduction of Man).
    ((I’ll email Tillmans)

    • Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican

    “Mr. Schulz, I think, that the most important task in living together is, to hinder the asshole-types.”
     
    What’s his opinion on Kackel Dackel?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O6nmHzPCTdw
    , @The Alarmist
    It's not whether or not you or someone is an 'asshole-type' rather it is whether you or someone are in a position to determine who might be an 'asshole-type' and what can be done about or to him/her/it/xe/whatever. The Antifas come in much larger and more decentralised numbers, so they have a lot more latitude in defining the narrative and meting out the punishment.
    , @Authenticjazzman
    Germany being the most neurotic country in Europe, period.
    A nation which has on it books such a repressive law as the so-called "Meldepflicht", for the uninitiated : a horrid big-brother law requiring that every citizen report his new address to the local "Meldeamt" upon changing residence.

    And the most perplexing aspect of this being that the german "Untertanen", the german "Subjects" do not question this abberation of justice rather they consider it to be a positive element which contributes to "Ordnung" : order.

    Germans do not ever consider the philosophical implications of this ghastly, police-state, regulation and they simply go and "Ummeld" re-register themselves and do their duty as "Brave"( "Brave" subjects meaning obedient in this context) subjects of the beloved almighty state.

    I have a quite successful german friend who has resided in the US for the last three decades, and upon meeting him for the first time in the late sixties he told me that he simply hates this insane law and that he intended to move to the USA when possible.

    Strangly enough he was the only german person who has ever expressed his disgust regarding said law whom I have ever encountered.

    Add to this the whole plethora of lunatic ideas and viewpoints permeating german society, their love and worship of BO, their mania regarding "Rightist" concepts such as secure borders, and you have then the complete formula for an insane nation.

    Authenticjazzman "Mensa" qualified since 1973, airborne trained US army Vet, and pro Jazz artist.
    , @Lurker

    Mr. Schulz, I think, that the most important task in living together is, to hinder the asshole-types
     
    So he thinks Germany should implement very strict border controls! Will the hate never end?!
  10. @Kevin C.
    This is only going to keep getting worse, and there's nothing we can do to stop it.

    sure there is

    the media have been getting increasingly hysterical in proportion to loss of trust – hard to maintain this level of hysteria without actual armed Red Guards shooting people.

    hold the line long enough – combined with incendiary trolling to fan the flames – and the media’s hysteria should burn out.

    • Replies: @Kevin C.

    the media have been getting increasingly hysterical in proportion to loss of trust – hard to maintain this level of hysteria without actual armed Red Guards shooting people.
     
    Which is why we're likely to end up with Red Guards shooting people.
    , @Dahlia
    the media have been getting increasingly hysterical in proportion to loss of trust – hard to maintain this level of hysteria without actual armed Red Guards shooting people.

    I think there is a lot of truth to this. The loss of trust is in the ruling class and its institutions of which the journalists are simply the scribes.

    How to deal: It's not enough to simply go around, now you have to go one further step. Evade and target to get information to people.
    Saying that, many would assume I have in mind a "hot" topic such as race, hbd or whatever, but personally, I have in mind a much more mundane topic that shall go unnamed that is extremely important to the populists on both the left and right.

    Yes, they're clamping down so hard that they have an army of gaslighters and violent thugs to shut down speech relevant to populists.
  11. @eah
    Statue of first Catholic Supreme Court justice removed because he wrote Dred Scott decision

    Maryland Gov. Larry Hogan, a Republican, said this week that removing the statue of Taney in Annapolis was “the right thing to do.” Republican Lt. Gov. Boyd Rutherford voted on behalf of the administration to remove the statue.

    • LOL: MEH 0910
  12. @Dieter Kief
    World famous Photographer Wolfgang Tillmans today in the German sunday paper "Die Welt" in an interview he did with the Social Democrat candidate Martin Schulz:

    "Mr. Schulz, I think, that the most important task in living together is, to hinder the asshole-types."
     

    Die Welt runs these words over half a page! - These words are touted with the biggest letters I've seen so far as the very essance of the interview.


    Tillmans being a worldwide acclaimed aesthete (=artist), I tend to answer with an aesthetical term myself: Such words don't express (can not express) the spirit of citizenship (of reason) - they're unsound, disturbed - and distrurbing.

    PS
    Tillmans grew world-famous in the London scene of the nineties as a wavy and witty art-punk-photographer. Nothing wrong ith that, as long as you don't confuse the realms of art and those of a reasonable public discourse. Those realms are not - THEY ARE NOT - the same. You have to seperate them , if you want to get along in a liberal and respectful modern and humane modern society.

    (He who does not believe me: Read Habermas Philosophical Dicourse on Modernity, especially the chapters on Bataille, Foucault, Derrida on the one hand and on the other hand especially the chapter (most important - and most brilliant!) about Friedrich Schiller's Letters on the Aesthetic Eduction of Man).
    ((I'll email Tillmans)

    “Mr. Schulz, I think, that the most important task in living together is, to hinder the asshole-types.”

    What’s his opinion on Kackel Dackel?

    • LOL: Dieter Kief
    • Replies: @jim jones
    You only have to watch a bit of porn (such as GGG) to realise that the Krauts are obsessed with toilet functions
  13. I have to wonder what Tom Wolfe is up to these days. All of this should be fodder for one of his journalistic pieces or better yet a follow up to Bonfire.

    • Replies: @Lurker
    I suspect every time he starts to write a new piece, reality has overtaken him again.
    , @Dieter Kief
    Tom Wolfe has figured out our times already - I'm thinking of A Man in Full (Trump and the South) - and - - I am Charlotte Simmons (Sabrina Erdely etc. - and the South) - and Mau Mauing the Flak Catchers (NY and High & Low and Black & White).

    He just sits there and smiles, I guess (and I do wish him well - I'm just halfways through his "Kingdom of Speech" about Darwin, Chomsky and Daniel Everett "(!!!)" - which turns out to be much better than what I've read about it - it's been an interesting read, so far"!!!!!"

  14. @Jenner Ickham Errican

    “Mr. Schulz, I think, that the most important task in living together is, to hinder the asshole-types.”
     
    What’s his opinion on Kackel Dackel?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O6nmHzPCTdw

    You only have to watch a bit of porn (such as GGG) to realise that the Krauts are obsessed with toilet functions

    • Replies: @Chrisnonymous
    LOL. That's the kind of comment that will really be embarrassing when UR gets hacked and we're all doxxed.
    , @Jus' Sayin'...
    Frage: Was ist ein guter deutscher Witz? Antwort: Scheist! HaHaHaHaHa......
  15. @Dieter Kief
    World famous Photographer Wolfgang Tillmans today in the German sunday paper "Die Welt" in an interview he did with the Social Democrat candidate Martin Schulz:

    "Mr. Schulz, I think, that the most important task in living together is, to hinder the asshole-types."
     

    Die Welt runs these words over half a page! - These words are touted with the biggest letters I've seen so far as the very essance of the interview.


    Tillmans being a worldwide acclaimed aesthete (=artist), I tend to answer with an aesthetical term myself: Such words don't express (can not express) the spirit of citizenship (of reason) - they're unsound, disturbed - and distrurbing.

    PS
    Tillmans grew world-famous in the London scene of the nineties as a wavy and witty art-punk-photographer. Nothing wrong ith that, as long as you don't confuse the realms of art and those of a reasonable public discourse. Those realms are not - THEY ARE NOT - the same. You have to seperate them , if you want to get along in a liberal and respectful modern and humane modern society.

    (He who does not believe me: Read Habermas Philosophical Dicourse on Modernity, especially the chapters on Bataille, Foucault, Derrida on the one hand and on the other hand especially the chapter (most important - and most brilliant!) about Friedrich Schiller's Letters on the Aesthetic Eduction of Man).
    ((I'll email Tillmans)

    It’s not whether or not you or someone is an ‘asshole-type’ rather it is whether you or someone are in a position to determine who might be an ‘asshole-type’ and what can be done about or to him/her/it/xe/whatever. The Antifas come in much larger and more decentralised numbers, so they have a lot more latitude in defining the narrative and meting out the punishment.

    • Replies: @Dieter Kief
    I'd hold, that in a civilized public shpere, you would not trumpet such terms as "assholes", what Tillmans and Die Welt do, but use them - if at all, - only at very specific occasions, just in order to avoid to - ehe - turn into a fake Saint all of a sudden (sigh).
  16. @notanon
    sure there is

    the media have been getting increasingly hysterical in proportion to loss of trust - hard to maintain this level of hysteria without actual armed Red Guards shooting people.

    hold the line long enough - combined with incendiary trolling to fan the flames - and the media's hysteria should burn out.

    the media have been getting increasingly hysterical in proportion to loss of trust – hard to maintain this level of hysteria without actual armed Red Guards shooting people.

    Which is why we’re likely to end up with Red Guards shooting people.

    • Replies: @notanon
    sure - gulag 2.o has always been the most likely outcome

    but not the only one imo
  17. @Dieter Kief
    World famous Photographer Wolfgang Tillmans today in the German sunday paper "Die Welt" in an interview he did with the Social Democrat candidate Martin Schulz:

    "Mr. Schulz, I think, that the most important task in living together is, to hinder the asshole-types."
     

    Die Welt runs these words over half a page! - These words are touted with the biggest letters I've seen so far as the very essance of the interview.


    Tillmans being a worldwide acclaimed aesthete (=artist), I tend to answer with an aesthetical term myself: Such words don't express (can not express) the spirit of citizenship (of reason) - they're unsound, disturbed - and distrurbing.

    PS
    Tillmans grew world-famous in the London scene of the nineties as a wavy and witty art-punk-photographer. Nothing wrong ith that, as long as you don't confuse the realms of art and those of a reasonable public discourse. Those realms are not - THEY ARE NOT - the same. You have to seperate them , if you want to get along in a liberal and respectful modern and humane modern society.

    (He who does not believe me: Read Habermas Philosophical Dicourse on Modernity, especially the chapters on Bataille, Foucault, Derrida on the one hand and on the other hand especially the chapter (most important - and most brilliant!) about Friedrich Schiller's Letters on the Aesthetic Eduction of Man).
    ((I'll email Tillmans)

    Germany being the most neurotic country in Europe, period.
    A nation which has on it books such a repressive law as the so-called “Meldepflicht”, for the uninitiated : a horrid big-brother law requiring that every citizen report his new address to the local “Meldeamt” upon changing residence.

    And the most perplexing aspect of this being that the german “Untertanen”, the german “Subjects” do not question this abberation of justice rather they consider it to be a positive element which contributes to “Ordnung” : order.

    Germans do not ever consider the philosophical implications of this ghastly, police-state, regulation and they simply go and “Ummeld” re-register themselves and do their duty as “Brave”( “Brave” subjects meaning obedient in this context) subjects of the beloved almighty state.

    I have a quite successful german friend who has resided in the US for the last three decades, and upon meeting him for the first time in the late sixties he told me that he simply hates this insane law and that he intended to move to the USA when possible.

    Strangly enough he was the only german person who has ever expressed his disgust regarding said law whom I have ever encountered.

    Add to this the whole plethora of lunatic ideas and viewpoints permeating german society, their love and worship of BO, their mania regarding “Rightist” concepts such as secure borders, and you have then the complete formula for an insane nation.

    Authenticjazzman “Mensa” qualified since 1973, airborne trained US army Vet, and pro Jazz artist.

    • Replies: @anonguy
    Germany isn't the only place that requires residents to register with local municipal authority.
  18. As the dude was swinging a small pocket knife over my car door ….

    ‘Dude’? there seems to be a lack of description there. Which never means anything of course.

    • Replies: @el topo
    Yep. The "you one of them neo-nazi?" quote also implies that the victim does not want to see color.
  19. @The Alarmist
    It's not whether or not you or someone is an 'asshole-type' rather it is whether you or someone are in a position to determine who might be an 'asshole-type' and what can be done about or to him/her/it/xe/whatever. The Antifas come in much larger and more decentralised numbers, so they have a lot more latitude in defining the narrative and meting out the punishment.

    I’d hold, that in a civilized public shpere, you would not trumpet such terms as “assholes”, what Tillmans and Die Welt do, but use them – if at all, – only at very specific occasions, just in order to avoid to – ehe – turn into a fake Saint all of a sudden (sigh).

    • Replies: @MEH 0910
    The Simpsons - Die Bart Die (English)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gaXigSu72A4
  20. @Dieter Kief
    World famous Photographer Wolfgang Tillmans today in the German sunday paper "Die Welt" in an interview he did with the Social Democrat candidate Martin Schulz:

    "Mr. Schulz, I think, that the most important task in living together is, to hinder the asshole-types."
     

    Die Welt runs these words over half a page! - These words are touted with the biggest letters I've seen so far as the very essance of the interview.


    Tillmans being a worldwide acclaimed aesthete (=artist), I tend to answer with an aesthetical term myself: Such words don't express (can not express) the spirit of citizenship (of reason) - they're unsound, disturbed - and distrurbing.

    PS
    Tillmans grew world-famous in the London scene of the nineties as a wavy and witty art-punk-photographer. Nothing wrong ith that, as long as you don't confuse the realms of art and those of a reasonable public discourse. Those realms are not - THEY ARE NOT - the same. You have to seperate them , if you want to get along in a liberal and respectful modern and humane modern society.

    (He who does not believe me: Read Habermas Philosophical Dicourse on Modernity, especially the chapters on Bataille, Foucault, Derrida on the one hand and on the other hand especially the chapter (most important - and most brilliant!) about Friedrich Schiller's Letters on the Aesthetic Eduction of Man).
    ((I'll email Tillmans)

    Mr. Schulz, I think, that the most important task in living together is, to hinder the asshole-types

    So he thinks Germany should implement very strict border controls! Will the hate never end?!

    • Replies: @Dieter Kief
    Border controls are - forgotten now in Germany? Taboo? Unfashionable? Not trendy? Unhip?

    I'm still trying to figure this stuff out.

    But then - maybe it's better not to think too much about those opposing the border controls and instead simply go ahead and argue pro: Day in day out; you never know how this all will end - - (since nobody on earth does know the future). -
  21. @Sam
    I have to wonder what Tom Wolfe is up to these days. All of this should be fodder for one of his journalistic pieces or better yet a follow up to Bonfire.

    I suspect every time he starts to write a new piece, reality has overtaken him again.

    • Replies: @Jim Don Bob
    http://www.conservapedia.com/Muggeridge%27s_law
  22. @Lurker

    Mr. Schulz, I think, that the most important task in living together is, to hinder the asshole-types
     
    So he thinks Germany should implement very strict border controls! Will the hate never end?!

    Border controls are – forgotten now in Germany? Taboo? Unfashionable? Not trendy? Unhip?

    I’m still trying to figure this stuff out.

    But then – maybe it’s better not to think too much about those opposing the border controls and instead simply go ahead and argue pro: Day in day out; you never know how this all will end – – (since nobody on earth does know the future). –

  23. @Sam
    I have to wonder what Tom Wolfe is up to these days. All of this should be fodder for one of his journalistic pieces or better yet a follow up to Bonfire.

    Tom Wolfe has figured out our times already – I’m thinking of A Man in Full (Trump and the South) – and – – I am Charlotte Simmons (Sabrina Erdely etc. – and the South) – and Mau Mauing the Flak Catchers (NY and High & Low and Black & White).

    He just sits there and smiles, I guess (and I do wish him well – I’m just halfways through his “Kingdom of Speech” about Darwin, Chomsky and Daniel Everett “(!!!)” – which turns out to be much better than what I’ve read about it – it’s been an interesting read, so far”!!!!!”

    • Replies: @MEH 0910
    I noticed that Steve didn't review The Kingdom of Speech.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Kingdom_of_Speech"

    The Kingdom of Speech is a critique of Charles Darwin and Noam Chomsky written by Tom Wolfe. The book's criticisms of Chomsky are outlined in an article in Harper's Magazine.[1]

    In the book, Wolfe criticises Darwin and his colleagues for taking partial credit from Alfred Wallace for the theory of evolution and ignoring Wallace's later work on the theory. Wolfe then criticises Noam Chomsky for dismissing Daniel Everett, who disputes Chomsky's claim that all languages are based ultimately on a hard-wired mechanism known as the language acquisition device (LAD). Wolfe argues that speech, not evolution, sets humans apart from animals and is responsible for all of humanity's complex achievements.
     

    Critical response

    In The Guardian, Steven Poole criticises Wolfe's whole approach to Darwin and dismisses his suggestion that Darwin had no evidence for his theory of evolution, saying that Darwin 'adduced a lot of evidence at the time, including the geographical distribution of species, comparative anatomy, fossils and the existence of vestigial organs. Today, of course, evolution is observed in real time in the laboratory, among microbes or insects'.[2]

    In The Washington Post, Jerry Coyne agrees that Wolfe 'grossly distorts the theory of evolution'. He also notes that 'Everett didn't slay [Chomsky's theory of] universal grammar: Later linguists found that the Pirahã language indeed had recursion (e.g., "I want the same hammock you just showed me"). Finally, the technical notion of "recursion" was never the totality of Chomsky's theory anyway. He highlighted the idea in a brief paper in 2003, but his theory always consisted of operations for merging words into bigger and bigger phrases, something no one disputes.' In concluding his review, Coyne states that 'I'm not sure why Wolfe bears such animus against evolution and the use of evidence rather than bluster to support claims about reality. Perhaps his social conservatism has bred such a discomfort with the implications of modern science - that the universe works by natural rather than supernatural or divine laws - that he's compelled to snicker at one of the foundations of modern science: He's called another one, the big bang, "the nuttiest theory I've ever heard."'[3]
     
    , @MEH 0910
    https://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/31/books/tom-wolfes-kingdom-of-speech-takes-aim-at-darwin-and-chomsky.html

    Mr. Wolfe, now 85, shows no sign of mellowing. His new book, “The Kingdom of Speech,” is his boldest bit of dueling yet. It’s a whooping, joy-filled and hyperbolic raid on, of all things, the theory of evolution, which he finds to be less scientific certainty than “a messy guess – baggy, boggy, soggy and leaking all over the place,” to put it in the words he inserts into the mouths of past genetic theorists.

    Secondarily, this book is a rebuke of the work of the linguist Noam Chomsky, whom Mr. Wolfe refers to as “Noam Charisma.” Rebuke is actually too frivolous a word for the contumely Mr. Wolfe looses in his direction. More precisely, he tars and feathers Mr. Chomsky before sticking a clown nose on his face and rolling him in a baby stroller off a cliff.

    Mr. Wolfe does not complain about evolution on religious grounds; in fact, he is an atheist. He begins by declaring the notion of the big bang to be vaguely ridiculous, and likens it to a mythopoetic bedtime story. Everything came from nothing?

    Most essentially, Mr. Wolfe employs new research from the controversial anthropologist Daniel Everett to argue that the power of speech — man’s signal attribute — is not the product of evolution at all but rather a tool that man created. “Bango!” Mr. Wolfe writes. “There is a cardinal distinction between man and animal.” He wonders how airtight the theory of evolution can be if it does not account for such a thing. “What is it,” he asks, “that has left endless generations of academics, certified geniuses, utterly baffled when it comes to speech?”

    Scientists will be likely to shrug at Mr. Wolfe’s lucid if overexcited synthesis of other people’s ideas and respond this way: We’ll get there, in terms of sussing out speech, through the combined use of anatomy and physiology and biochemistry. The structures that support language don’t fossilize, so evidence is simply harder to come by. This is not something we will lose sleep over, no matter how much you pogo and spit in the Sid Vicious manner.
     
  24. @eah
    Statue of first Catholic Supreme Court justice removed because he wrote Dred Scott decision

    Maryland Gov. Larry Hogan, a Republican, said this week that removing the statue of Taney in Annapolis was “the right thing to do.” Republican Lt. Gov. Boyd Rutherford voted on behalf of the administration to remove the statue.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    Next-next: Taney County, Missouri!

    Next-next-next: Lake Taneycomo in Taney County, Missouri!

    Ok. Not really. Hillbillies aren't as stupid as Yankees. :)

  25. @Lurker
    I suspect every time he starts to write a new piece, reality has overtaken him again.
    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    I had dinner with Malcolm Muggeridge at Rice U. c. 1978.
  26. I’m just halfways through his “Kingdom of Speech” about Darwin, Chomsky and Daniel Everett “(!!!)” – which turns out to be much better than what I’ve read about it – it’s been an interesting read, so far”!!!!!”

    That was a good book, and Wolfe destroys Chomsky in his usual sly way.

  27. @Jim Don Bob
    http://www.conservapedia.com/Muggeridge%27s_law

    I had dinner with Malcolm Muggeridge at Rice U. c. 1978.

    • Replies: @FX Enderby
    Recently watched Muggeridge on Buckley's old Firing Line. Came off as a self-important prig. Btw, the Firing Line archive has many good interviews, including 2 with Enoch Powell PBUH.
    , @Desiderius
    Hope he was better one-on-one than in front of a camera:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CeKWVuye1YE

    (Muggeridge enters 18:40)

    In retrospect, he may have had the better of Cleese (who himself might now recognize it) but certainly his treatment of Palin (and the question at hand/the audience) was disastrous.
    , @John Derbyshire
    I once had my name billed above his on the cover of The Spectator.
  28. They are allowed to grow beards in the Navy?? Or is he a reservist?

    • Replies: @dr kill
    Only the women.
  29. @notanon
    the media lost control of the narrative and are trying to compensate by being more hysterical and as a result all their media zombies are becoming more hysterical also

    bumpy ride ahead for a while until it burns itself out like a fever

    (hopefully)

    They haven’t lost control of a damn thing.

    • Replies: @notanon
    sure they have - CVille was meant to be the kill shot - and they missed

    simply put media power = trust x volume

    so if they're screeching you know they're losing
  30. @Lurker

    As the dude was swinging a small pocket knife over my car door ….
     
    'Dude'? there seems to be a lack of description there. Which never means anything of course.

    Yep. The “you one of them neo-nazi?” quote also implies that the victim does not want to see color.

  31. @Anonymous
    He spoke to the New York Post: http://nypost.com/2017/08/19/man-stabbed-after-haircut-gets-him-mistaken-for-a-neo-nazi/ (mostly to add that his friends think it's his haircut that fingered him).

    The nationalization of these stories is strange. If this happened to me and the New York Post contacted me, my first question would be why are they writing about it.

  32. @Steve Sailer
    I had dinner with Malcolm Muggeridge at Rice U. c. 1978.

    Recently watched Muggeridge on Buckley’s old Firing Line. Came off as a self-important prig. Btw, the Firing Line archive has many good interviews, including 2 with Enoch Powell PBUH.

    • Replies: @Chrisnonymous
    If there are episodes of FL that you want yo see that aren't available yet, you can donate money to have them digitized and the DVDs released.
  33. @Kevin C.
    This is only going to keep getting worse, and there's nothing we can do to stop it.

    Actually, I thought the suggestion on another thread of taking the energy out of antifa by setting up fake neo-Nazi rallies that nobody goes to was a pretty good way of fighting back.

    • Replies: @Stealth
    I thought of this earlier today. Just prank call a bunch of them.
  34. highly respectable and influential people

    cite needed.

  35. @jim jones
    You only have to watch a bit of porn (such as GGG) to realise that the Krauts are obsessed with toilet functions

    LOL. That’s the kind of comment that will really be embarrassing when UR gets hacked and we’re all doxxed.

    • Replies: @El Dato
    And after doxing comes detoxing.

    Get ready for the progger van, it's more effective than a hosting ban.
  36. @Steve Sailer
    I had dinner with Malcolm Muggeridge at Rice U. c. 1978.

    Hope he was better one-on-one than in front of a camera:

    (Muggeridge enters 18:40)

    In retrospect, he may have had the better of Cleese (who himself might now recognize it) but certainly his treatment of Palin (and the question at hand/the audience) was disastrous.

    • Replies: @David
    Muggeridge comes in at 24:00. The guy starting at 18:40 is a Bishop Mervyn Stockwood. He doesn't handle himself well and he doesn't give Palin a good answer. Any chance your confusing the two guys?

    When I saw the clothes everyone was wearing and the two Python members as part of the panel, I completely believed I was watching a skit for some minutes.
  37. @Steve Sailer
    I had dinner with Malcolm Muggeridge at Rice U. c. 1978.

    I once had my name billed above his on the cover of The Spectator.

    • Replies: @anonymous
    Cool cover. 1983, thems were the days. BTW, how did that whole Nork thing work out?
  38. @Dieter Kief
    Tom Wolfe has figured out our times already - I'm thinking of A Man in Full (Trump and the South) - and - - I am Charlotte Simmons (Sabrina Erdely etc. - and the South) - and Mau Mauing the Flak Catchers (NY and High & Low and Black & White).

    He just sits there and smiles, I guess (and I do wish him well - I'm just halfways through his "Kingdom of Speech" about Darwin, Chomsky and Daniel Everett "(!!!)" - which turns out to be much better than what I've read about it - it's been an interesting read, so far"!!!!!"

    I noticed that Steve didn’t review The Kingdom of Speech.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Kingdom_of_Speech”

    The Kingdom of Speech is a critique of Charles Darwin and Noam Chomsky written by Tom Wolfe. The book’s criticisms of Chomsky are outlined in an article in Harper’s Magazine.[1]

    In the book, Wolfe criticises Darwin and his colleagues for taking partial credit from Alfred Wallace for the theory of evolution and ignoring Wallace’s later work on the theory. Wolfe then criticises Noam Chomsky for dismissing Daniel Everett, who disputes Chomsky’s claim that all languages are based ultimately on a hard-wired mechanism known as the language acquisition device (LAD). Wolfe argues that speech, not evolution, sets humans apart from animals and is responsible for all of humanity’s complex achievements.

    Critical response

    In The Guardian, Steven Poole criticises Wolfe’s whole approach to Darwin and dismisses his suggestion that Darwin had no evidence for his theory of evolution, saying that Darwin ‘adduced a lot of evidence at the time, including the geographical distribution of species, comparative anatomy, fossils and the existence of vestigial organs. Today, of course, evolution is observed in real time in the laboratory, among microbes or insects’.[2]

    In The Washington Post, Jerry Coyne agrees that Wolfe ‘grossly distorts the theory of evolution’. He also notes that ‘Everett didn’t slay [Chomsky’s theory of] universal grammar: Later linguists found that the Pirahã language indeed had recursion (e.g., “I want the same hammock you just showed me”). Finally, the technical notion of “recursion” was never the totality of Chomsky’s theory anyway. He highlighted the idea in a brief paper in 2003, but his theory always consisted of operations for merging words into bigger and bigger phrases, something no one disputes.’ In concluding his review, Coyne states that ‘I’m not sure why Wolfe bears such animus against evolution and the use of evidence rather than bluster to support claims about reality. Perhaps his social conservatism has bred such a discomfort with the implications of modern science – that the universe works by natural rather than supernatural or divine laws – that he’s compelled to snicker at one of the foundations of modern science: He’s called another one, the big bang, “the nuttiest theory I’ve ever heard.”‘[3]

  39. @Kevin C.
    This is only going to keep getting worse, and there's nothing we can do to stop it.

    Train and make ready.

    • Disagree: Kevin C.
    • Replies: @dc.sunsets
    Funny how the obvious obtains disagreement.

    16,360,000 people in the USA now have a permit to carry a concealed weapon, according to the Crime Prevention Research Center ( https://crimeresearch.org/ .)

    Few of them are in "may issue" states like CA or NJ, but making up for that are people who live in states where no permit is even required.

    I can only guess that there are reasons we don't hear too much about "Antifa-minded" fools picking the wrong person to attack:
    1. CCL holders probably exercise better situation-awareness and avoid many problems.
    2. Self-defense shootings rarely make the news beyond the very-most-local.

    This is actually too bad. It's possible "Antifa-minded" morons are being cheated of useful data about how unhealthy is a penchant for attacking those who are otherwise minding their own business.

    Don't volunteer to be a victim.
  40. @Dieter Kief
    Tom Wolfe has figured out our times already - I'm thinking of A Man in Full (Trump and the South) - and - - I am Charlotte Simmons (Sabrina Erdely etc. - and the South) - and Mau Mauing the Flak Catchers (NY and High & Low and Black & White).

    He just sits there and smiles, I guess (and I do wish him well - I'm just halfways through his "Kingdom of Speech" about Darwin, Chomsky and Daniel Everett "(!!!)" - which turns out to be much better than what I've read about it - it's been an interesting read, so far"!!!!!"

    https://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/31/books/tom-wolfes-kingdom-of-speech-takes-aim-at-darwin-and-chomsky.html

    Mr. Wolfe, now 85, shows no sign of mellowing. His new book, “The Kingdom of Speech,” is his boldest bit of dueling yet. It’s a whooping, joy-filled and hyperbolic raid on, of all things, the theory of evolution, which he finds to be less scientific certainty than “a messy guess – baggy, boggy, soggy and leaking all over the place,” to put it in the words he inserts into the mouths of past genetic theorists.

    Secondarily, this book is a rebuke of the work of the linguist Noam Chomsky, whom Mr. Wolfe refers to as “Noam Charisma.” Rebuke is actually too frivolous a word for the contumely Mr. Wolfe looses in his direction. More precisely, he tars and feathers Mr. Chomsky before sticking a clown nose on his face and rolling him in a baby stroller off a cliff.

    Mr. Wolfe does not complain about evolution on religious grounds; in fact, he is an atheist. He begins by declaring the notion of the big bang to be vaguely ridiculous, and likens it to a mythopoetic bedtime story. Everything came from nothing?

    Most essentially, Mr. Wolfe employs new research from the controversial anthropologist Daniel Everett to argue that the power of speech — man’s signal attribute — is not the product of evolution at all but rather a tool that man created. “Bango!” Mr. Wolfe writes. “There is a cardinal distinction between man and animal.” He wonders how airtight the theory of evolution can be if it does not account for such a thing. “What is it,” he asks, “that has left endless generations of academics, certified geniuses, utterly baffled when it comes to speech?”

    Scientists will be likely to shrug at Mr. Wolfe’s lucid if overexcited synthesis of other people’s ideas and respond this way: We’ll get there, in terms of sussing out speech, through the combined use of anatomy and physiology and biochemistry. The structures that support language don’t fossilize, so evidence is simply harder to come by. This is not something we will lose sleep over, no matter how much you pogo and spit in the Sid Vicious manner.

    • Replies: @Dieter Kief
    Let me say that much (I'm still not through with the little book): The NYT sidesteps the systematically important questions and joins Wolfe's realm of metaphotical (=Nitzschean) argumentation in concluding, he acted out (=spat) against Darwin like a reincarnation of punker Sid Vicious.

    The NYT's idea, that language could be understood in strictly biological/physiological/ biochemical ways, is - ehe - subcomplex (=insufficient=misleading=wrong).


    What Wolfe's attack on Chomsky is concerned, I'm leaning very much towards Everett (and Wolfe), indeed.

    Everett is a great debater - anyone interested might want to have a look at the article below and it's comments section:

    https://aeon.co/essays/why-language-is-not-everything-that-noam-chomsky-said-it-is

    , @Anonymous
    I keep waiting for our host to acknowledge its existence -- ostensibly pitting his heroes against each other but with a twist: nurturist Wolfe flailing at naturist Chomsky -- but maybe he grokked what it seems most others have already, namely, that the book isn't very good. As a smug, precocious celebutante Wolfe has certainly palmed off some clunkers in the past
  41. @CCZ
    You mean to tell me that it's not all about social justice, racial equality under the law, and, especially, love not hate?

    From a very woke white-boy, overflowing with love not hate:


    The Coastal White Liberal Who Is Shocked About Racism Thinkpiece Template

    White culture is defined by the nu-Plantation atmospheres that can only exist in Caucasian enclaves. Like the whole culture of white guys in khakis, polos, and Topsiders. Women in their early 20s wearing pearls and modest periwinkle blue v-necks mid-length dresses. Those 60s style headbands that white women want to bring back, too. They dress up like gentlemen and ladies, you know… from the good old days**. Ignore the fact that these outfits are the third most racist thing you can wear; right behind bedsheets and blackface.

    (**When black people drank from different water fountains.)

    Your friends went to low-key racist universities because their parents were uncomfortable with the prospect of their daughter fucking a black guy. They want their daughter coming home for a Trevor for Thanksgiving — not a Tyrone."

    You, the white, upper middle class, have a dilemma here. You’re the proud beneficiary of centuries of white manufactured wealth. Your ancestors were awarded this nation, given all its land, and up until recently, also blocked non-whites from receiving government benefits like education, loans, housing, etc.

    Big idea: Forget the past. Focus on the future. It’s the white thinkpiece thing to do.
     

    It looks like TD found a new forum. When is he going to start writing for the Onion?

  42. Dahlia says:
    @notanon
    sure there is

    the media have been getting increasingly hysterical in proportion to loss of trust - hard to maintain this level of hysteria without actual armed Red Guards shooting people.

    hold the line long enough - combined with incendiary trolling to fan the flames - and the media's hysteria should burn out.

    the media have been getting increasingly hysterical in proportion to loss of trust – hard to maintain this level of hysteria without actual armed Red Guards shooting people.

    I think there is a lot of truth to this. The loss of trust is in the ruling class and its institutions of which the journalists are simply the scribes.

    How to deal: It’s not enough to simply go around, now you have to go one further step. Evade and target to get information to people.
    Saying that, many would assume I have in mind a “hot” topic such as race, hbd or whatever, but personally, I have in mind a much more mundane topic that shall go unnamed that is extremely important to the populists on both the left and right.

    Yes, they’re clamping down so hard that they have an army of gaslighters and violent thugs to shut down speech relevant to populists.

    • Replies: @anonymous
    Media hysteria? That's absurd. Today's (Sunday) headline forMinneapolis Star-Tribune: Nazi resurgence alarms Minnesota World War II veterans, Holocaust survivors. That's sober, reasoned reporting not hysterical shrieking.
    , @notanon

    many would assume I have in mind a “hot” topic such as...
     
    yes, stuff that triggers the media, their paymasters or SJWs in general is best but meat and potatoes stuff is good too
  43. @jim jones
    You only have to watch a bit of porn (such as GGG) to realise that the Krauts are obsessed with toilet functions

    Frage: Was ist ein guter deutscher Witz? Antwort: Scheist! HaHaHaHaHa……

  44. “Every record has been destroyed or falsified, every book rewritten, every picture has been repainted, every statue and street building has been renamed, every date has been altered. And the process is continuing day by day and minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Party is always right.” George Orwell 1984

    • Agree: Simply Simon
  45. @John Derbyshire
    I once had my name billed above his on the cover of The Spectator.

    Cool cover. 1983, thems were the days. BTW, how did that whole Nork thing work out?

    • Replies: @MEH 0910

    1983, thems were the days.
     
    Eh, I was disappointed with Elvis Costello & the Attractions' overproduced 1983 album.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Punch_the_Clock

    BTW, how did that whole Nork thing work out?
     
    I believe Kim Jong Il ended up promoting a different son than the one pegged at that time. Nepotism nonetheless.
  46. @Kevin C.
    This is only going to keep getting worse, and there's nothing we can do to stop it.

    “This is only going to keep getting worse, and there’s nothing we can do to stop it.”

    The first part of that sentence is true.

  47. @Dahlia
    the media have been getting increasingly hysterical in proportion to loss of trust – hard to maintain this level of hysteria without actual armed Red Guards shooting people.

    I think there is a lot of truth to this. The loss of trust is in the ruling class and its institutions of which the journalists are simply the scribes.

    How to deal: It's not enough to simply go around, now you have to go one further step. Evade and target to get information to people.
    Saying that, many would assume I have in mind a "hot" topic such as race, hbd or whatever, but personally, I have in mind a much more mundane topic that shall go unnamed that is extremely important to the populists on both the left and right.

    Yes, they're clamping down so hard that they have an army of gaslighters and violent thugs to shut down speech relevant to populists.

    Media hysteria? That’s absurd. Today’s (Sunday) headline forMinneapolis Star-Tribune: Nazi resurgence alarms Minnesota World War II veterans, Holocaust survivors. That’s sober, reasoned reporting not hysterical shrieking.

  48. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @CCZ
    You mean to tell me that it's not all about social justice, racial equality under the law, and, especially, love not hate?

    From a very woke white-boy, overflowing with love not hate:


    The Coastal White Liberal Who Is Shocked About Racism Thinkpiece Template

    White culture is defined by the nu-Plantation atmospheres that can only exist in Caucasian enclaves. Like the whole culture of white guys in khakis, polos, and Topsiders. Women in their early 20s wearing pearls and modest periwinkle blue v-necks mid-length dresses. Those 60s style headbands that white women want to bring back, too. They dress up like gentlemen and ladies, you know… from the good old days**. Ignore the fact that these outfits are the third most racist thing you can wear; right behind bedsheets and blackface.

    (**When black people drank from different water fountains.)

    Your friends went to low-key racist universities because their parents were uncomfortable with the prospect of their daughter fucking a black guy. They want their daughter coming home for a Trevor for Thanksgiving — not a Tyrone."

    You, the white, upper middle class, have a dilemma here. You’re the proud beneficiary of centuries of white manufactured wealth. Your ancestors were awarded this nation, given all its land, and up until recently, also blocked non-whites from receiving government benefits like education, loans, housing, etc.

    Big idea: Forget the past. Focus on the future. It’s the white thinkpiece thing to do.
     

    “Like the whole culture of white guys in khakis, polos, and Topsiders. Women in their early 20s wearing pearls and modest periwinkle blue v-necks mid-length dresses. Those 60s style headbands that white women want to bring back, too. They dress up like gentlemen and ladies, you know… from the good old days**. Ignore the fact that these outfits are the third most racist thing you can wear; right behind bedsheets and blackface.”

    Okay. So, let me get this straight. I dress like a typical white guy, or my wife dresses like a typical white woman, we’re being racist. Yet, what would you tell me if I were to dress in a hippie Mexican shirt, or my wife wears a dashiki? That we’re engaging in “cultural appropriation” and being racist. Pretty clear you just buy into the BS of the day that if we’re white we’re being racist simply by existing.

    And when you catch some blowback for your irrational childish beliefs and behavior towards us, oh, that was the ‘racism’ you ‘knew was there’ all along.

    • Replies: @S. Anonyia
    Yes, it appears they've decided the only acceptable clothes left for whites are graphic tees and ratty jeans.
    , @notanon
    yes - if you dress like yt you're a nazi and if you don't you're culturally appropriating which makes you a nazi and nazis can be legitimately attacked with impunity.

    supremacy is cool huh.
    , @MEH 0910
    https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/heads_I_win,_tails_you_lose
  49. @Jim Don Bob
    Next! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taneytown,_Maryland

    Next-next: Taney County, Missouri!

    Next-next-next: Lake Taneycomo in Taney County, Missouri!

    Ok. Not really. Hillbillies aren’t as stupid as Yankees. 🙂

    • Replies: @Jim Don Bob
    It was the Republican governor of Maryland who removed the statue. With people like this on our side, we are bound to lose.

    Spineless turd. He should have made the entire Maryland legislature vote on the record to do this.
  50. @CCZ
    You mean to tell me that it's not all about social justice, racial equality under the law, and, especially, love not hate?

    From a very woke white-boy, overflowing with love not hate:


    The Coastal White Liberal Who Is Shocked About Racism Thinkpiece Template

    White culture is defined by the nu-Plantation atmospheres that can only exist in Caucasian enclaves. Like the whole culture of white guys in khakis, polos, and Topsiders. Women in their early 20s wearing pearls and modest periwinkle blue v-necks mid-length dresses. Those 60s style headbands that white women want to bring back, too. They dress up like gentlemen and ladies, you know… from the good old days**. Ignore the fact that these outfits are the third most racist thing you can wear; right behind bedsheets and blackface.

    (**When black people drank from different water fountains.)

    Your friends went to low-key racist universities because their parents were uncomfortable with the prospect of their daughter fucking a black guy. They want their daughter coming home for a Trevor for Thanksgiving — not a Tyrone."

    You, the white, upper middle class, have a dilemma here. You’re the proud beneficiary of centuries of white manufactured wealth. Your ancestors were awarded this nation, given all its land, and up until recently, also blocked non-whites from receiving government benefits like education, loans, housing, etc.

    Big idea: Forget the past. Focus on the future. It’s the white thinkpiece thing to do.
     

    I used to feel sorry for libtard twenty-somethings, but increasingly I really don’t care what misery they bring upon themselves, given how destructive they are to the world.

  51. @Kevin C.
    This is only going to keep getting worse, and there's nothing we can do to stop it.

    It’s best to move to overwhelmingly white (or white+Asian) enclaves, preferably ones which tend to vote and behave conservative. Let the animals tear each other apart.

    • Replies: @notanon
    HUD has a policy of no white enclaves using section 8

    obviously the richer you are the longer you can avoid getting eaten by the crocodile but the end game all over the west is white children as an ever shrinking minority in *every* school

    and if you grew up like that you'll know what it means
    , @Stealth
    When isolated from non-whites, whites inevitably become liberal. It matters not whether the location is in the city or country. This is why the South is red and the white parts of New England are blue.
  52. @Kevin C.

    the media have been getting increasingly hysterical in proportion to loss of trust – hard to maintain this level of hysteria without actual armed Red Guards shooting people.
     
    Which is why we're likely to end up with Red Guards shooting people.

    sure – gulag 2.o has always been the most likely outcome

    but not the only one imo

  53. @Dahlia
    the media have been getting increasingly hysterical in proportion to loss of trust – hard to maintain this level of hysteria without actual armed Red Guards shooting people.

    I think there is a lot of truth to this. The loss of trust is in the ruling class and its institutions of which the journalists are simply the scribes.

    How to deal: It's not enough to simply go around, now you have to go one further step. Evade and target to get information to people.
    Saying that, many would assume I have in mind a "hot" topic such as race, hbd or whatever, but personally, I have in mind a much more mundane topic that shall go unnamed that is extremely important to the populists on both the left and right.

    Yes, they're clamping down so hard that they have an army of gaslighters and violent thugs to shut down speech relevant to populists.

    many would assume I have in mind a “hot” topic such as…

    yes, stuff that triggers the media, their paymasters or SJWs in general is best but meat and potatoes stuff is good too

  54. @Desiderius
    Hope he was better one-on-one than in front of a camera:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CeKWVuye1YE

    (Muggeridge enters 18:40)

    In retrospect, he may have had the better of Cleese (who himself might now recognize it) but certainly his treatment of Palin (and the question at hand/the audience) was disastrous.

    Muggeridge comes in at 24:00. The guy starting at 18:40 is a Bishop Mervyn Stockwood. He doesn’t handle himself well and he doesn’t give Palin a good answer. Any chance your confusing the two guys?

    When I saw the clothes everyone was wearing and the two Python members as part of the panel, I completely believed I was watching a skit for some minutes.

    • Replies: @Desiderius
    The bishop and Muggeridge show up together for the second segment of the show. They're on the same "team."

    Useful cultural artifact to see how we got here (loss of Christian cultural leadership/coherence).
  55. @Stealth
    They haven't lost control of a damn thing.

    sure they have – CVille was meant to be the kill shot – and they missed

    simply put media power = trust x volume

    so if they’re screeching you know they’re losing

    • Replies: @ben tillman

    sure they have – CVille was meant to be the kill shot – and they missed
     
    How was it supposed to be the kill shot, and how did they miss?

    Kill shot for dissident speech or kill shot for Trump Presidency of for something else?
  56. @Anonymous
    It's best to move to overwhelmingly white (or white+Asian) enclaves, preferably ones which tend to vote and behave conservative. Let the animals tear each other apart.

    HUD has a policy of no white enclaves using section 8

    obviously the richer you are the longer you can avoid getting eaten by the crocodile but the end game all over the west is white children as an ever shrinking minority in *every* school

    and if you grew up like that you’ll know what it means

    • Agree: Kevin C.
  57. @Anonymous
    "Like the whole culture of white guys in khakis, polos, and Topsiders. Women in their early 20s wearing pearls and modest periwinkle blue v-necks mid-length dresses. Those 60s style headbands that white women want to bring back, too. They dress up like gentlemen and ladies, you know… from the good old days**. Ignore the fact that these outfits are the third most racist thing you can wear; right behind bedsheets and blackface."

    Okay. So, let me get this straight. I dress like a typical white guy, or my wife dresses like a typical white woman, we're being racist. Yet, what would you tell me if I were to dress in a hippie Mexican shirt, or my wife wears a dashiki? That we're engaging in "cultural appropriation" and being racist. Pretty clear you just buy into the BS of the day that if we're white we're being racist simply by existing.

    And when you catch some blowback for your irrational childish beliefs and behavior towards us, oh, that was the 'racism' you 'knew was there' all along.

    Yes, it appears they’ve decided the only acceptable clothes left for whites are graphic tees and ratty jeans.

  58. @Kevin C.
    This is only going to keep getting worse, and there's nothing we can do to stop it.

    That’s right.

    It’s a movement with it’s own intrinsic momentum and assisted externally by the MSM, Democratic Party, Silicon Valley elites and shadowy billionaires like Soros who bankroll and organize the various sub groups to ensure they are supported and stay motivated.

    They’re just getting warmed up. The statues are the first thing – in short a trial run to see how much the people and local pols will tolerate. The counter protests show that cities side with anti-fa and against conservatives and 1A supporters. They see the GOP either silent or siding with them against Trump and the 1st Amendment. The DOJ won’t even investigate anti-fa.

    Eventually states will start passing anti-1A legislation and nothing will be said about it. After that comes corporations like Google shutting down alt-right sites and Sailer will be reduced to sending out pamphlets in the mail.

    This is already happening with anti-jihad sites.
    https://www.jihadwatch.org/2017/08/propublica-working-with-google-to-document-hate-threatens-counter-jihad-bloggers

    Paypal is already kicking some off like Jihadwatch.org

    We need to keep in mind this is all about declaring war on deplorables/dirt people who refuse to go along with the globalist/anti-American/anti-white agenda of the elites. It’s not going to stop.

  59. @Anonymous
    Next-next: Taney County, Missouri!

    Next-next-next: Lake Taneycomo in Taney County, Missouri!

    Ok. Not really. Hillbillies aren't as stupid as Yankees. :)

    It was the Republican governor of Maryland who removed the statue. With people like this on our side, we are bound to lose.

    Spineless turd. He should have made the entire Maryland legislature vote on the record to do this.

    • Replies: @Desiderius
    They're not on our side.

    They're very careful to always stay aloof and above-it-all, not on anyone's side.

    Makes them easy marks for Alinskyites.

  60. @Chrisnonymous
    Actually, I thought the suggestion on another thread of taking the energy out of antifa by setting up fake neo-Nazi rallies that nobody goes to was a pretty good way of fighting back.

    I thought of this earlier today. Just prank call a bunch of them.

  61. @eah
    Statue of first Catholic Supreme Court justice removed because he wrote Dred Scott decision

    Maryland Gov. Larry Hogan, a Republican, said this week that removing the statue of Taney in Annapolis was “the right thing to do.” Republican Lt. Gov. Boyd Rutherford voted on behalf of the administration to remove the statue.

    The last surviving December 7, 1941 Pearl Harbor docked ship is permanently [to be determined ??] moored in Baltimore’s Inner Harbor, the Coast Guard cutter / USN destroyer ROGER B. TANEY.

    “On the eve of Pearl Harbor, Taney was officially assigned to the US Navy’s Destroyer Division 80, though she retained her Coast Guard crew. When Japanese aircraft attacked Pearl Harbor and other American military installations in Hawaii on 7 December 1941, Taney was tied up at Pier 6, Honolulu, where she was able to repeatedly engage Japanese planes which over flew the city. On 7 December 1986, after more than 50 years of continuous service, Taney was decommissioned at Portsmouth, Virginia, and donated to the City of Baltimore to serve as a memorial and museum.”

    The USCG Taney: What becomes of her?

    She bears the villainous name Rodger B. Taney.

    https://laststandonzombieisland.com/2011/12/11/last-pearl-harbor-surviving-ship/

  62. @Anonymous
    It's best to move to overwhelmingly white (or white+Asian) enclaves, preferably ones which tend to vote and behave conservative. Let the animals tear each other apart.

    When isolated from non-whites, whites inevitably become liberal. It matters not whether the location is in the city or country. This is why the South is red and the white parts of New England are blue.

    • Replies: @Jim Don Bob

    When isolated from non-whites, whites inevitably become liberal. It matters not whether the location is in the city or country. This is why the South is red and the white parts of New England are blue.
     
    Right. Whenever I go just as far south as NC, I am struck by how much daily interaction there is between whites and blacks compared to the north.
  63. @David
    Muggeridge comes in at 24:00. The guy starting at 18:40 is a Bishop Mervyn Stockwood. He doesn't handle himself well and he doesn't give Palin a good answer. Any chance your confusing the two guys?

    When I saw the clothes everyone was wearing and the two Python members as part of the panel, I completely believed I was watching a skit for some minutes.

    The bishop and Muggeridge show up together for the second segment of the show. They’re on the same “team.”

    Useful cultural artifact to see how we got here (loss of Christian cultural leadership/coherence).

  64. @MEH 0910
    https://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/31/books/tom-wolfes-kingdom-of-speech-takes-aim-at-darwin-and-chomsky.html

    Mr. Wolfe, now 85, shows no sign of mellowing. His new book, “The Kingdom of Speech,” is his boldest bit of dueling yet. It’s a whooping, joy-filled and hyperbolic raid on, of all things, the theory of evolution, which he finds to be less scientific certainty than “a messy guess – baggy, boggy, soggy and leaking all over the place,” to put it in the words he inserts into the mouths of past genetic theorists.

    Secondarily, this book is a rebuke of the work of the linguist Noam Chomsky, whom Mr. Wolfe refers to as “Noam Charisma.” Rebuke is actually too frivolous a word for the contumely Mr. Wolfe looses in his direction. More precisely, he tars and feathers Mr. Chomsky before sticking a clown nose on his face and rolling him in a baby stroller off a cliff.

    Mr. Wolfe does not complain about evolution on religious grounds; in fact, he is an atheist. He begins by declaring the notion of the big bang to be vaguely ridiculous, and likens it to a mythopoetic bedtime story. Everything came from nothing?

    Most essentially, Mr. Wolfe employs new research from the controversial anthropologist Daniel Everett to argue that the power of speech — man’s signal attribute — is not the product of evolution at all but rather a tool that man created. “Bango!” Mr. Wolfe writes. “There is a cardinal distinction between man and animal.” He wonders how airtight the theory of evolution can be if it does not account for such a thing. “What is it,” he asks, “that has left endless generations of academics, certified geniuses, utterly baffled when it comes to speech?”

    Scientists will be likely to shrug at Mr. Wolfe’s lucid if overexcited synthesis of other people’s ideas and respond this way: We’ll get there, in terms of sussing out speech, through the combined use of anatomy and physiology and biochemistry. The structures that support language don’t fossilize, so evidence is simply harder to come by. This is not something we will lose sleep over, no matter how much you pogo and spit in the Sid Vicious manner.
     

    Let me say that much (I’m still not through with the little book): The NYT sidesteps the systematically important questions and joins Wolfe’s realm of metaphotical (=Nitzschean) argumentation in concluding, he acted out (=spat) against Darwin like a reincarnation of punker Sid Vicious.

    The NYT’s idea, that language could be understood in strictly biological/physiological/ biochemical ways, is – ehe – subcomplex (=insufficient=misleading=wrong).

    What Wolfe’s attack on Chomsky is concerned, I’m leaning very much towards Everett (and Wolfe), indeed.

    Everett is a great debater – anyone interested might want to have a look at the article below and it’s comments section:

    https://aeon.co/essays/why-language-is-not-everything-that-noam-chomsky-said-it-is

    • Replies: @Desiderius
    That's Beale's (Vox Day's) take on evolution as well.

    Not a hill I'm dying on so never really got into the details, but Vox usually has some interesting arguments.
  65. @Dieter Kief
    Let me say that much (I'm still not through with the little book): The NYT sidesteps the systematically important questions and joins Wolfe's realm of metaphotical (=Nitzschean) argumentation in concluding, he acted out (=spat) against Darwin like a reincarnation of punker Sid Vicious.

    The NYT's idea, that language could be understood in strictly biological/physiological/ biochemical ways, is - ehe - subcomplex (=insufficient=misleading=wrong).


    What Wolfe's attack on Chomsky is concerned, I'm leaning very much towards Everett (and Wolfe), indeed.

    Everett is a great debater - anyone interested might want to have a look at the article below and it's comments section:

    https://aeon.co/essays/why-language-is-not-everything-that-noam-chomsky-said-it-is

    That’s Beale’s (Vox Day’s) take on evolution as well.

    Not a hill I’m dying on so never really got into the details, but Vox usually has some interesting arguments.

  66. @FX Enderby
    Recently watched Muggeridge on Buckley's old Firing Line. Came off as a self-important prig. Btw, the Firing Line archive has many good interviews, including 2 with Enoch Powell PBUH.

    If there are episodes of FL that you want yo see that aren’t available yet, you can donate money to have them digitized and the DVDs released.

  67. Time to get that concealed carry permit. And more ammo.

    • Replies: @dc.sunsets

    Time to get that concealed carry permit. And more ammo.
     
    I hear that CCL holders are more vigilant and prone to avoid trouble at higher rates anyway. Kind of like the "carry umbrella" theory of rain prevention.

    The problem is, it's a slippery slope:
    1. Get CCL and arm-up.
    2. Get body armor (really, stiflingly hot at >60 deg F)
    3. Buy armored automobile (>$ than a Lexus 460)
    4. Move to gated community (100 times more than the armored auto.)
    5. Pay employees to deliver groceries, do all shopping on line.

    OOOOOhhhhhh. NOW I get why Bezos is All-Left.
  68. @Frank McGar
    They are allowed to grow beards in the Navy?? Or is he a reservist?

    Only the women.

  69. OT: RIP Jewy Lewyt

  70. @Kevin C.
    This is only going to keep getting worse, and there's nothing we can do to stop it.

    The situation has to reach critical mass before something can be done to stop it.

  71. @Chrisnonymous
    LOL. That's the kind of comment that will really be embarrassing when UR gets hacked and we're all doxxed.

    And after doxing comes detoxing.

    Get ready for the progger van, it’s more effective than a hosting ban.

  72. “ooo una em? Sounds like the suspect was black.

  73. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @MEH 0910
    https://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/31/books/tom-wolfes-kingdom-of-speech-takes-aim-at-darwin-and-chomsky.html

    Mr. Wolfe, now 85, shows no sign of mellowing. His new book, “The Kingdom of Speech,” is his boldest bit of dueling yet. It’s a whooping, joy-filled and hyperbolic raid on, of all things, the theory of evolution, which he finds to be less scientific certainty than “a messy guess – baggy, boggy, soggy and leaking all over the place,” to put it in the words he inserts into the mouths of past genetic theorists.

    Secondarily, this book is a rebuke of the work of the linguist Noam Chomsky, whom Mr. Wolfe refers to as “Noam Charisma.” Rebuke is actually too frivolous a word for the contumely Mr. Wolfe looses in his direction. More precisely, he tars and feathers Mr. Chomsky before sticking a clown nose on his face and rolling him in a baby stroller off a cliff.

    Mr. Wolfe does not complain about evolution on religious grounds; in fact, he is an atheist. He begins by declaring the notion of the big bang to be vaguely ridiculous, and likens it to a mythopoetic bedtime story. Everything came from nothing?

    Most essentially, Mr. Wolfe employs new research from the controversial anthropologist Daniel Everett to argue that the power of speech — man’s signal attribute — is not the product of evolution at all but rather a tool that man created. “Bango!” Mr. Wolfe writes. “There is a cardinal distinction between man and animal.” He wonders how airtight the theory of evolution can be if it does not account for such a thing. “What is it,” he asks, “that has left endless generations of academics, certified geniuses, utterly baffled when it comes to speech?”

    Scientists will be likely to shrug at Mr. Wolfe’s lucid if overexcited synthesis of other people’s ideas and respond this way: We’ll get there, in terms of sussing out speech, through the combined use of anatomy and physiology and biochemistry. The structures that support language don’t fossilize, so evidence is simply harder to come by. This is not something we will lose sleep over, no matter how much you pogo and spit in the Sid Vicious manner.
     

    I keep waiting for our host to acknowledge its existence — ostensibly pitting his heroes against each other but with a twist: nurturist Wolfe flailing at naturist Chomsky — but maybe he grokked what it seems most others have already, namely, that the book isn’t very good. As a smug, precocious celebutante Wolfe has certainly palmed off some clunkers in the past

  74. @Authenticjazzman
    Germany being the most neurotic country in Europe, period.
    A nation which has on it books such a repressive law as the so-called "Meldepflicht", for the uninitiated : a horrid big-brother law requiring that every citizen report his new address to the local "Meldeamt" upon changing residence.

    And the most perplexing aspect of this being that the german "Untertanen", the german "Subjects" do not question this abberation of justice rather they consider it to be a positive element which contributes to "Ordnung" : order.

    Germans do not ever consider the philosophical implications of this ghastly, police-state, regulation and they simply go and "Ummeld" re-register themselves and do their duty as "Brave"( "Brave" subjects meaning obedient in this context) subjects of the beloved almighty state.

    I have a quite successful german friend who has resided in the US for the last three decades, and upon meeting him for the first time in the late sixties he told me that he simply hates this insane law and that he intended to move to the USA when possible.

    Strangly enough he was the only german person who has ever expressed his disgust regarding said law whom I have ever encountered.

    Add to this the whole plethora of lunatic ideas and viewpoints permeating german society, their love and worship of BO, their mania regarding "Rightist" concepts such as secure borders, and you have then the complete formula for an insane nation.

    Authenticjazzman "Mensa" qualified since 1973, airborne trained US army Vet, and pro Jazz artist.

    Germany isn’t the only place that requires residents to register with local municipal authority.

    • Replies: @Authenticjazzman
    " Germany isn't the only place that requires residents to register with local municipal authority"

    I am fully aware of this, and probably since before you were born.

    My point being that this is a totally oppressive big-brother law/requirement, and the sanctemoneous Germans who are alway preaching to everybody else about "Menschenrechte" : human rights, these pontificating "Besserwisser" : know-it-alls, don't even bother to question this requirement from a philosophical viewpoint, rather they simply comply with it, as all good "Subjects" comply with their oppressive masters.

    Authenticjazzman " "Mensa" qualified since 1973, airborne trained US Army vet, and pro Jazz musician.

  75. @Jim Don Bob
    It was the Republican governor of Maryland who removed the statue. With people like this on our side, we are bound to lose.

    Spineless turd. He should have made the entire Maryland legislature vote on the record to do this.

    They’re not on our side.

    They’re very careful to always stay aloof and above-it-all, not on anyone’s side.

    Makes them easy marks for Alinskyites.

  76. @Anonymous
    "Like the whole culture of white guys in khakis, polos, and Topsiders. Women in their early 20s wearing pearls and modest periwinkle blue v-necks mid-length dresses. Those 60s style headbands that white women want to bring back, too. They dress up like gentlemen and ladies, you know… from the good old days**. Ignore the fact that these outfits are the third most racist thing you can wear; right behind bedsheets and blackface."

    Okay. So, let me get this straight. I dress like a typical white guy, or my wife dresses like a typical white woman, we're being racist. Yet, what would you tell me if I were to dress in a hippie Mexican shirt, or my wife wears a dashiki? That we're engaging in "cultural appropriation" and being racist. Pretty clear you just buy into the BS of the day that if we're white we're being racist simply by existing.

    And when you catch some blowback for your irrational childish beliefs and behavior towards us, oh, that was the 'racism' you 'knew was there' all along.

    yes – if you dress like yt you’re a nazi and if you don’t you’re culturally appropriating which makes you a nazi and nazis can be legitimately attacked with impunity.

    supremacy is cool huh.

  77. @Dieter Kief
    I'd hold, that in a civilized public shpere, you would not trumpet such terms as "assholes", what Tillmans and Die Welt do, but use them - if at all, - only at very specific occasions, just in order to avoid to - ehe - turn into a fake Saint all of a sudden (sigh).

    The Simpsons – Die Bart Die (English)

  78. @Anonymous
    "Like the whole culture of white guys in khakis, polos, and Topsiders. Women in their early 20s wearing pearls and modest periwinkle blue v-necks mid-length dresses. Those 60s style headbands that white women want to bring back, too. They dress up like gentlemen and ladies, you know… from the good old days**. Ignore the fact that these outfits are the third most racist thing you can wear; right behind bedsheets and blackface."

    Okay. So, let me get this straight. I dress like a typical white guy, or my wife dresses like a typical white woman, we're being racist. Yet, what would you tell me if I were to dress in a hippie Mexican shirt, or my wife wears a dashiki? That we're engaging in "cultural appropriation" and being racist. Pretty clear you just buy into the BS of the day that if we're white we're being racist simply by existing.

    And when you catch some blowback for your irrational childish beliefs and behavior towards us, oh, that was the 'racism' you 'knew was there' all along.

  79. @anonymous
    Cool cover. 1983, thems were the days. BTW, how did that whole Nork thing work out?

    1983, thems were the days.

    Eh, I was disappointed with Elvis Costello & the Attractions’ overproduced 1983 album.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Punch_the_Clock

    BTW, how did that whole Nork thing work out?

    I believe Kim Jong Il ended up promoting a different son than the one pegged at that time. Nepotism nonetheless.

    • Replies: @anonymous
    1. R.E.M.'s Murmur was the '83 LP for me.

    2. Nork. I believe you are mistaken, surely Presidents Reagan, Bush, Clinton, Bush, and Obama wouldn't have let that happen. Nork is some sort of democracy by now? I just want to know which type.
  80. @MEH 0910

    1983, thems were the days.
     
    Eh, I was disappointed with Elvis Costello & the Attractions' overproduced 1983 album.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Punch_the_Clock

    BTW, how did that whole Nork thing work out?
     
    I believe Kim Jong Il ended up promoting a different son than the one pegged at that time. Nepotism nonetheless.

    1. R.E.M.’s Murmur was the ’83 LP for me.

    2. Nork. I believe you are mistaken, surely Presidents Reagan, Bush, Clinton, Bush, and Obama wouldn’t have let that happen. Nork is some sort of democracy by now? I just want to know which type.

  81. @anonguy
    Germany isn't the only place that requires residents to register with local municipal authority.

    ” Germany isn’t the only place that requires residents to register with local municipal authority”

    I am fully aware of this, and probably since before you were born.

    My point being that this is a totally oppressive big-brother law/requirement, and the sanctemoneous Germans who are alway preaching to everybody else about “Menschenrechte” : human rights, these pontificating “Besserwisser” : know-it-alls, don’t even bother to question this requirement from a philosophical viewpoint, rather they simply comply with it, as all good “Subjects” comply with their oppressive masters.

    Authenticjazzman ” “Mensa” qualified since 1973, airborne trained US Army vet, and pro Jazz musician.

  82. @notanon
    sure they have - CVille was meant to be the kill shot - and they missed

    simply put media power = trust x volume

    so if they're screeching you know they're losing

    sure they have – CVille was meant to be the kill shot – and they missed

    How was it supposed to be the kill shot, and how did they miss?

    Kill shot for dissident speech or kill shot for Trump Presidency of for something else?

  83. @Stealth
    When isolated from non-whites, whites inevitably become liberal. It matters not whether the location is in the city or country. This is why the South is red and the white parts of New England are blue.

    When isolated from non-whites, whites inevitably become liberal. It matters not whether the location is in the city or country. This is why the South is red and the white parts of New England are blue.

    Right. Whenever I go just as far south as NC, I am struck by how much daily interaction there is between whites and blacks compared to the north.

  84. @SteveRogers42
    Train and make ready.

    Funny how the obvious obtains disagreement.

    16,360,000 people in the USA now have a permit to carry a concealed weapon, according to the Crime Prevention Research Center ( https://crimeresearch.org/ .)

    Few of them are in “may issue” states like CA or NJ, but making up for that are people who live in states where no permit is even required.

    I can only guess that there are reasons we don’t hear too much about “Antifa-minded” fools picking the wrong person to attack:
    1. CCL holders probably exercise better situation-awareness and avoid many problems.
    2. Self-defense shootings rarely make the news beyond the very-most-local.

    This is actually too bad. It’s possible “Antifa-minded” morons are being cheated of useful data about how unhealthy is a penchant for attacking those who are otherwise minding their own business.

    Don’t volunteer to be a victim.

  85. @Jim Don Bob
    Time to get that concealed carry permit. And more ammo.

    Time to get that concealed carry permit. And more ammo.

    I hear that CCL holders are more vigilant and prone to avoid trouble at higher rates anyway. Kind of like the “carry umbrella” theory of rain prevention.

    The problem is, it’s a slippery slope:
    1. Get CCL and arm-up.
    2. Get body armor (really, stiflingly hot at >60 deg F)
    3. Buy armored automobile (>$ than a Lexus 460)
    4. Move to gated community (100 times more than the armored auto.)
    5. Pay employees to deliver groceries, do all shopping on line.

    OOOOOhhhhhh. NOW I get why Bezos is All-Left.

    • Replies: @Jingo Starr
    Except you still have to trust your grocer.
  86. @dc.sunsets

    Time to get that concealed carry permit. And more ammo.
     
    I hear that CCL holders are more vigilant and prone to avoid trouble at higher rates anyway. Kind of like the "carry umbrella" theory of rain prevention.

    The problem is, it's a slippery slope:
    1. Get CCL and arm-up.
    2. Get body armor (really, stiflingly hot at >60 deg F)
    3. Buy armored automobile (>$ than a Lexus 460)
    4. Move to gated community (100 times more than the armored auto.)
    5. Pay employees to deliver groceries, do all shopping on line.

    OOOOOhhhhhh. NOW I get why Bezos is All-Left.

    Except you still have to trust your grocer.

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