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From Twitter’s Official Blog (By the way, why does Twitter have an official blog? I thought blogs had been outdated by Twitter’s ability to turn blog posts into the much more convenient format of 73 numbered Tweets in a row?):
Setting the record straight on shadow banning
By Vijaya Gadde and Kayvon Beykpour
Thursday, 26 July 2018People are asking us if we shadow ban. We do not. But let’s start with, “what is shadow banning?”
The best definition we found is this: deliberately making someone’s content undiscoverable to everyone except the person who posted it, unbeknownst to the original poster.
We do not shadow ban. You are always able to see the tweets from accounts you follow (although you may have to do more work to find them, like go directly to their profile).
Okay!
So that’s that. Twitter does not shadow ban. (Instead, Twitter shadow shades. Or something)
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And we should believe these fake Americans because…?
“Vijaya Gadde and Kayvon Beykpour”
doesn’t fill me with confidence.
Right-thinking people are always outraged that different life outcomes for people named things like De'shawn'tavius or L'queefeiaia are a disparate impact that imply some kind of racism, not that giving your child a name like is indicative of an attitude of middle-fingering of agreeable bourgeois middle-class sensibilities that probably encompasses many other aspects of child rearing and acculturation.
That South Asians haven't begun to conform like this seems like a remarkable change from a tradition that immigrants try to conform and make things easy on their kids and everybody else by giving their kids conventional English names instead of exotic names from their foreign language or culture. Even "Nikki" Haley (née Nimrata Randhawa) who married a fellow named Michael Haley named her kids Rena & Nalin, names so exotic I had to look up to find out that they were for two sons.
What's going on here?
Is this more "flight from white" or merely a delay or permanent end of integration because we've chosen multiculturalism and cringe about our previous sinful expectation of assimilation?Replies: @I, commenter, @Anonymous
I’m genuinely surprised that it was Facebook that took the stock bloodbath over Twitter. Twitter has been an intrinsically toxic product for most of its existence, and has been tied to the very public destruction of a few big name goodthinkers. Maybe Facebook should develop some shadowbanning techniques, and then defy you to notice or complain about them.
So they can write pieces like that which don’t allow comments?
I love their criteria for detecting bad faith actors (these are 2 and 3):
Who, whom?
It would be interesting to analyze those negative indicators for political affiliation. Surely Twitter wants to be transparent and show us there is no bias there…
“We don’t ban you because of political affiliation. We ban (well, shade) you because people of a certain political affiliation like you. Completely different.”
By making the best things hard to find, Twitter is making them even more special.
Actually, that’s the definition of shadow banning.
Personally, I don't see why anyone bothers with Twitter. If it disappeared, who would notice?
There’s no disadvantage procured to Asian students in the American university system (although they may have to do more work to be accepted, like getting stellar grades and proving they are as socially likeable as Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez).
Remember when these a$$hats were all yawping about Net Neutrality: we must treat all data on the internet equally?
Yeah, I remember that too.
Turns out they like the privileging of certain data … when they do it.
I didn’t steal. I just removed the object.
https://www.breitbart.com/tech/2018/07/27/twitter-admits-your-posts-will-be-hidden-if-you-follow-the-wrong-accounts/
Baby Daddy speak the truth.
https://twitter.com/DogMeat55015715/status/1022932830068723712
Evidently it took both these retards to spout this swill:
I am not on Twitter so I don’t know that much about this, but didn’t they answer this question by changing the definition of shadow banning?
Isn’t this what shadow banning means? You don’t see tweets from accounts you follow in your feed, but have to go hunting for them to see them. I see the stock was down 20% today thanks to President Trump using their service.
Hey, look at the new globo-homo Asian conservative on the right.
How about Demo-Banning the Invaders?
https://voiceofeurope.com/2018/07/pakistani-migrant-arrested-for-trying-to-set-fire-in-greece/
Would people with names like that lie about banning conservatives?
One more sign that we live in an absurd world is that a medium limited to 140/280 characters matters.
(Go ahead and say that the above comment is ironic because it consists of 102 characters. Blog comments on the intardnet are neither mountain climbs nor moon landings. Nor are they great philosophical essays.)
Twitter veils conservatives like Muslims veil women’s faces.
Twitter Co. should design a burka for conservatives.
Headlines always mattered most. Even in the age of newspapers, many just read the headlines and first paragraph.
Opps, read the authors name too quickly, thought it was Vi Jay Jay. Well, whatever, we are all moderated here at Steve’s whim. Says so right here.
By Vijaya Gadde and Kayvon Beykpour
Just the names I want to trust on this issue.
And the Ganges is clean.
The new overlords. Their names aren’t going to be Smith or Johnson, are they?
If this ain’t election interference, I don’t know what is!
OT
https://twitter.com/rvgenaille/status/1022759657633271809
“… you may have to do more work to find them, like go directly to their profile.”
This. I do follow Donald Trump, Steve Sailer and Ann Coulter.
So here’s how Twitter works. When someone tweets, it’s only there for an instant; if you’re not on Twitter at that moment you miss it.
Except for the fact that Twitter will notice the people you follow, and when you log back in to the site, it will bring up past Tweets from people you follow. Most people rely on this feature.
Except that I’ve never seen a tweet from President Trump, Steve or Miss Coulter that is presented as “posts you may have missed”.
Twitter could clear this up by adding a feature that allows you to select other users whose past tweets you always want to see whenever you log in.
The importance of Twitter is that the media of this country is absolutely opposed to President Trump, and would never report honestly what he says. Tweets are simple and direct and unaltered communication from the user.
Facebook’s market cap is vastly higher than Twitter’s.
Facebook’s stock shot up lately, and it’s only back down to where it was in late April.
Twitter is part of the media.
The media is the enemy of the United States.
Tweet from 2015:
Tweet from 2017:
LOL, exactly.
No bloodbath for Twitter? Twitter lost 20% today.
Yes, #405, that’s sort of the same problem that always existed. “Leaders,” and “public intellectuals” supposedly matter, but the tidal wave (now called “tsunami,” thanks again to “journalism”) of public opinion has more power. After all, those people feed you, clothe you, etc.
“Journalism”[sic], used to be called reporting. Reporters wrote in the inverted pyramid style, so that even a poorly educated person like me could read a little bit and get the gist of the story. Headlines were always what we now call clickbait.
So, in conclusion to this great intardrnet blog essay: Those in control now use 140/280 characters to manipulate our opinions. That has replaced your inky old headlines and the inverted pyramid.
Remember the Maine!
Looks like Steve is shadow “shaded”.
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1weLQyQ89coNp2IngaP858dgk_rB8FQ1w
Steve likes him some Facebook. It’s a marketeer’s dream.
Same for Twitter, it only dropped back to where the share price was in late May. The 52 week low is 15.67.
https://fortunedotcom.files.wordpress.com/2014/10/vijaya_gadde.jpg
https://static.adweek.com/adweek.com-prod/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/KayvonBeykpourHero.jpgReplies: @Antlitz Grollheim, @Joe Schmoe, @PiltdownMan
This is America
Do you mean Agent Smith and Special Agent Johnson?
Haha. Yeah, that’s like having to call up your friend to see if he’s gotten your email yet. Worse yet, is DRIVING down to the doctor’s office to figure out how to make an appointment on their website.
doesn't fill me with confidence.Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @Thin-Skinned Masta-Beta
I’d buy a blueberry squishy from either of them, if it’s the two guys I’m thinking of… never had a problem.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_sUMtHcUMWo
Newsweek just posted a headline about an airplane that goes twice the speed of light. I had a great line: “In darkness, it is not possible to know if democracy dies or lives: mainstream journalists continue their war on physics.” Then my rebellious and ungrateful phone Calibanned me offline long enough for Newsweek — a mass media organ which manages to be simultaneously alive and dead — to correct their error without any acknowledgment of it.
https://www.newsweek.com/virgin-space-plane-travel-commercial-flight-twice-speed-light-1045829
now goes to
https://www.newsweek.com/virgin-space-plane-travel-commercial-flight-twice-speed-sound-1045829
It’s okay that they flubbed a detail in a headline. It is not okay at all that every mainstream voice is screaming at full volume for undisguised Chinese-style state censorship to restore their artificial role as the arbiters of reality, at the same time that they can be so easily caught like this. You should have heard the BBC radio journalists this morning crowing over Facebook’s massive loss of fake value, validating the theory that this was a meaningful punishment for Zuckerberg’s head fake about allowing people to use the internet without imposing an ideological test. The unambiguous and uncontested verdict: business simply cannot afford thoughtcrime. Never mind that Facebook is a business in the same sense that Lindsay Pelas is an Emperor penguin. The media would have more credibility if they were more honest and more familiar with our Constitution, even if they confused light and sound. As it is the safe assumption is still that they’re liars who use lying to hide their lies.
doesn't fill me with confidence.Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @Thin-Skinned Masta-Beta
When, if ever, do we suppose that South Asians in the west will decide to make it easy on the population at large and start giving their kids modest conforming names like that Korean-American girl, Clara Park, interviewed in that recent NYT article about Brooklyn Latin Academy?
Right-thinking people are always outraged that different life outcomes for people named things like De’shawn’tavius or L’queefeiaia are a disparate impact that imply some kind of racism, not that giving your child a name like is indicative of an attitude of middle-fingering of agreeable bourgeois middle-class sensibilities that probably encompasses many other aspects of child rearing and acculturation.
That South Asians haven’t begun to conform like this seems like a remarkable change from a tradition that immigrants try to conform and make things easy on their kids and everybody else by giving their kids conventional English names instead of exotic names from their foreign language or culture. Even “Nikki” Haley (née Nimrata Randhawa) who married a fellow named Michael Haley named her kids Rena & Nalin, names so exotic I had to look up to find out that they were for two sons.
What’s going on here?
Is this more “flight from white” or merely a delay or permanent end of integration because we’ve chosen multiculturalism and cringe about our previous sinful expectation of assimilation?
It's colonization, not assimilation.
I used to work with a guy who would send me an email and then walk down to my office and say, “I just sent you an email”. A running joke. Maybe you had to be there.
Yeah, I remember that too.
Turns out they like the privileging of certain data ... when they do it.Replies: @International Jew
“Net neutrality” would give the government an excuse to monitor all network traffic. At that point it’s only a matter of time before someone in the government decides to be a hero and shares our unz.com postings with our employers.
https://youtu.be/1Xen6Qont0s?t=41sReplies: @Forbes
If you need to go to a profile to see tweets from an account you “follow,” then “follow” has no meaning–and that account has been shadow banned.
Personally, I don’t see why anyone bothers with Twitter. If it disappeared, who would notice?
Right-thinking people are always outraged that different life outcomes for people named things like De'shawn'tavius or L'queefeiaia are a disparate impact that imply some kind of racism, not that giving your child a name like is indicative of an attitude of middle-fingering of agreeable bourgeois middle-class sensibilities that probably encompasses many other aspects of child rearing and acculturation.
That South Asians haven't begun to conform like this seems like a remarkable change from a tradition that immigrants try to conform and make things easy on their kids and everybody else by giving their kids conventional English names instead of exotic names from their foreign language or culture. Even "Nikki" Haley (née Nimrata Randhawa) who married a fellow named Michael Haley named her kids Rena & Nalin, names so exotic I had to look up to find out that they were for two sons.
What's going on here?
Is this more "flight from white" or merely a delay or permanent end of integration because we've chosen multiculturalism and cringe about our previous sinful expectation of assimilation?Replies: @I, commenter, @Anonymous
Next wave of Koreans will change that anglicized transliteration to ‘Pxqaruqeu”. I have actually noticed this with many orientals they used to simply take first/last names that roughly sounded like their chinese names but were too hard for westerners to pronounce, but now they go for direct transliterations from Peking, to Beijing, so to speak.
The most Orwellian thing Twitter does is make you delete the posts that they find problematic, rather than just censor them themselves.
Comment sections on regular news articles are close to extinct. So, question to Twitter users: to what extent is Twitter a suitable substitute if I feel like disagreeing with some article?
FIFY…
Vijaya Gadde was probably born here to Indian immigrants. One thing I find curious about my fellow Indians is how passionate so many of them are (at least in Silicon Valley) to change this country to what they think is for the better. Within 2-3 years of living in America they consider themselves qualified to effect this change. Mind you, these are the people who have turned their cities and towns back home into unlivable toilets, but they are going to somehow improve on America.
Citizenism for the win! But —
In a Gadde Vijaya, honey … You have to go baaa-aaaa-aack
WOMP WOMP womp womp womp WOMP WOMP WOMP WOMP
Vijaya’s throwback pic from the old country (via Fortune magazine):
KALI — MAAAA !
Don’t need the government– Unz has thoughtfully included the Facebook and Twitter plugins (e.g. the Like, Share, and Tweet buttons).
Those companies get your IP every time you load one of these pages– doesn’t matter if you have an account w/ them or not.
Yes they do, and no I never noticed before! Ron, this really really sucks!
And it’s not just that Facebook gets your IP: it gets your Facebook identity (so you’re not safe even if you’re using your phone on 4G). The only way to stay safe then is to always go to Unz.com in an incognito browser window. Or make sure you’re never logged into Facebook or Twitter.
Also, Ron gets your Facebook identity this way too (if he wants to).
Facebook and Google are under a lot of scrutiny, including aggressive EU regulators. The bigger problem are the approximately 50 large "analytics" companies. They hoover up as much personal info as they can get, paying tiny amounts to websites to install their trackers. They can get away with a whole lot more.
The single least acknowledged reason that Trump won in 2016 was the Bannon/Mercer Cambridge Analytica operation. It was really ugly last year to see how ungrateful Trump was to Bannon, minimizing his role.
Also, if Bannon hadn't stepped in, how much longer would the crooked Manafort have been running the Trump campaign?
This is what I would call shadow banning: When someone follows you and you are not in their consolidated timeline feed that they use to read Twitter.
You may follow dozens or hundreds of people. You’re expected to go to their profile pages one by one to read their tweets? Seriously? The act of following means, “I want this guy’s tweets, all of them, added to my timeline.”
This blog post was very NSA like: Redefine the terms and then use your new definitions to make a denial. “We do not monitor American citizens … in the sense that monitor means to deliberately perform a search using query words that include words designed to determine citizenship, on the data that we have already sucked up from domestic sources.”
Zuckerberg is being punished for saying Holocaust Denial would be allowed on Facebook.
which implies the possibility that people who own the stock smell an incoming govt intervention into social media
I love their criteria for detecting bad faith actors (these are 2 and 3):Who, whom?
It would be interesting to analyze those negative indicators for political affiliation. Surely Twitter wants to be transparent and show us there is no bias there...
"We don't ban you because of political affiliation. We ban (well, shade) you because people of a certain political affiliation like you. Completely different."Replies: @AndrewR
Or in twitterspeak, “who/who?”
One of the biggest, most influential tech companies on earth and they can’t even get anyone with a sixth-grade grasp of English to write their official blog posts.
I have heard similar complaints about YouTube, e.g. Jimmy Dore subscribers saying that they are not being alerted to new Dore videos, or even being spontaneously unsubscribed.
https://fortunedotcom.files.wordpress.com/2014/10/vijaya_gadde.jpg
https://static.adweek.com/adweek.com-prod/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/KayvonBeykpourHero.jpgReplies: @Antlitz Grollheim, @Joe Schmoe, @PiltdownMan
not retards, liars
Right-thinking people are always outraged that different life outcomes for people named things like De'shawn'tavius or L'queefeiaia are a disparate impact that imply some kind of racism, not that giving your child a name like is indicative of an attitude of middle-fingering of agreeable bourgeois middle-class sensibilities that probably encompasses many other aspects of child rearing and acculturation.
That South Asians haven't begun to conform like this seems like a remarkable change from a tradition that immigrants try to conform and make things easy on their kids and everybody else by giving their kids conventional English names instead of exotic names from their foreign language or culture. Even "Nikki" Haley (née Nimrata Randhawa) who married a fellow named Michael Haley named her kids Rena & Nalin, names so exotic I had to look up to find out that they were for two sons.
What's going on here?
Is this more "flight from white" or merely a delay or permanent end of integration because we've chosen multiculturalism and cringe about our previous sinful expectation of assimilation?Replies: @I, commenter, @Anonymous
Indian ethnocentrism. They’ve always done this. There are just more of them now, so it is more noticeable.
It’s colonization, not assimilation.
Vijaya is a woman, which reminds me of the scene in Seinfeld when Elaine meets Pinter’s parents in the famous backwards episode.
Hmmm, maybe that WAS me. A true story from a decade or so back at this medium-sized company that had too much incompetence and bureaucracy – I was told by the lady in department A that I could pick up what I needed as soon as the lady from department B sent that email to her. I walked the 200 yards or so to department B. “Yeah, I just sent her the email. Go over there and get your stuff.”, lady B said. Back over to department A, “Did you get the email yet from Mrs. X in department B?” “No, not yet.” “She said she sent it to you.” “No, it’s not here yet.” “Can I bring her computer over here and show you!”
It depends if it is just a script that is a part of the local page and on runs when clicked, or a widget that connects to Facebook on all page loads. I have seen both and I think they are both common.
Facebook and Google are under a lot of scrutiny, including aggressive EU regulators. The bigger problem are the approximately 50 large “analytics” companies. They hoover up as much personal info as they can get, paying tiny amounts to websites to install their trackers. They can get away with a whole lot more.
The single least acknowledged reason that Trump won in 2016 was the Bannon/Mercer Cambridge Analytica operation. It was really ugly last year to see how ungrateful Trump was to Bannon, minimizing his role.
Also, if Bannon hadn’t stepped in, how much longer would the crooked Manafort have been running the Trump campaign?
Done and done! (20 years ago, in fact.)
https://fortunedotcom.files.wordpress.com/2014/10/vijaya_gadde.jpg
https://static.adweek.com/adweek.com-prod/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/KayvonBeykpourHero.jpgReplies: @Antlitz Grollheim, @Joe Schmoe, @PiltdownMan
Vijaya Gadde, Twitter’s general counsel, had about 840,000 Twitter shares, back in 2014. She has received more stock awards since then. Twitter currently trades at about $35.
This is a wealthy person.
https://abovethelaw.com/2014/05/fun-fact-of-the-day-twitters-general-counsel-owns-how-many-millions-in-twtr-stock/
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Kayvon Beckpour is even more wealthy, with a nine-figure net worth.
https://www.nowcomms.com/kayvon_beykpour_makes_our_blood_boil/
UNZ.com has the option to turn off the social media scripts.
The worst are the ones of the most successful parents – they are openly hostile most of the time – part of it is the “white people suck’ narrative is a great way to to justify just about any sociopathic behavior, or assuage any ‘hurt’ feeling growing up (all the guys liked Becky), but also I think these not dumb second generation Indians realize how much POWER can be gained from the SJW narrative… where whites are just trying to protect themselves by being SJW (see I am not a bad white) Indians can gain enormous power. As points out, SJ is beginning to be dominated by young Indian women… ironically , they probably support Hindu nationalism and are looking for nice ‘golden wheat complexioned’ Indians of the same caste as husbands.
https://www.breitbart.com/tech/2018/07/27/twitter-admits-your-posts-will-be-hidden-if-you-follow-the-wrong-accounts/Replies: @Anonymous
What I love is that these superior third-world immigrants are on video record saying exactly what they deny they’re saying. Clever clever.
thing is he’s saying that publicly while FB, youtube, twitter etc shadow ban all conservatives under the covers
which implies the possibility that people who own the stock smell an incoming govt intervention into social media
Recently Facebook cuts off my friends’ posts on my timeline in less than a few hours after I have logged on. To the very shortened timeline they then suggest that I could see more posts if I had more friends, and here are some suggestions. Of course I can still see the deleted posts by viewing the friend’s site; but this does seem a form of shadowing … but for commercial reasons … underhandedly performed.
See “Social Media?” under “Settings” at the upper right of the page.
What does it do when it is on?
My response to the noise about shadow banning and filtering in general — triggered by Scott Adams’s video about shadow banning and public policy.
I find myself less and less inclined to address idiocy but then there are those, like Scott Adams, who not only evince less idiocy than the average, but have influential folks who follow him on Twitter. So, *sigh* here goes:
There is an obvious division between filter layers and network layers. Network layers are those that enjoy the network effect. It is idiocy to talk about anything to do with civil society without understanding the network effect and framing one’s discourse about civil society within it. Sorry, it just is. Can’t do anything about reality — one piece of which is people don’t _really_ listen when I try to educate them about the network effect’s fundamental import — despite my track record in this area going back to 1982. So I’m not going to try to talk people into it anymore. I’m going to DO something. Change the tools and you change the rules, someone once said. I can’t recall who. Anyway, the network layer involves things like the transmission of content in accord with the wishes of the authors, security against unauthorized access, etc. The filter layer involves things like deciding whether someone sees content to which one has access. Ideally, it is the complement of the author’s wishes: The reader authorizes the presentation of content he reads while the author authorizes (funny that) who can read the content.
Now I can go on and on about the implications of this to “The Constitution” and other modes of public policy, but it’s really kind of pointless since people can’t seem to hold basic concepts in their mind while thinking about public policy.
So, enough talk…
Just use a different browser for all of your deplorable activity. Like Pale Moon or Brave.