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From the New York Times news section:

Off the air, Mr. [Tucker] Carlson has been urging Mr. Trump to take the threat of coronavirus more seriously. Last Saturday, Mr. Carlson drove from his residence in Florida to Mar-a-Lago, the president’s Florida resort, and spoke directly with Mr. Trump about the virus, according to a person with knowledge of their conversation.

Face to face contact really matters at getting things done in this world (I write from my walk-in closet).

 
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  1. Tucker for president – seriously. He is the only person who seems to even be aware of the problems that face us, let alone have proposals for addressing them.

    • Replies: @RichardTaylor
    Tucker may be more powerful as media person. But in 4 years, who knows.
    , @Ragno
    I like the idea (though I'm increasingly warming up to Ted Cruz).....but Tucker could use more than a bit of Trump's animal cunning. Considering that Chief Executives as monolithically hated by the Deep State as Trump is usually end up shot by, cough, some deranged loner, you had better believe that Trump's "slavish devotion" to the sinister state of Israel has kept him alive and untouched thus far - quite a feat given that his Secret Service detail might conceivably be as loyal as the FBI and CIA. Tucker Carlson, bless his pure-hearted decency, has made no bones about his antipathy to the hedge-fund vulture capitalists clinking champagne flutes to the human misery they create and exploit- and that's the equivalent of declaring war on Israel.

    Tucker's no dummy....he probably knows that. Look at what his wife and kids had to go through simply for his habit of saying the word "antifa" without the light of adoration glittering in his eyes; I think he might love his family too much to put them through a steady diet of the same, or worse.

    , @Prester John
    We could do worse. MUCH worse!
    , @Anonymous
    Trump should dump the neo-con friendly fundgelical Pence for Tucker.
    Two great reasons for this:

    1) It'd make Carlson the heir-apparent in four years
    2) In the mean time Tucker could keep very close tabs on Trump and pressure him to fulfill all of his America 1st promises. The Tucker agenda rather than the Javanka agenda.

    , @JimDandy
    Has there been a great president in the modern era? If Tucker ran and got elected my money would be on him ending up compromised in a variety of ways and rendered ineffectual.
    , @J1234
    Tucker is great as an advocate. Probably less effective as a political leader. Why? Because political leaders are required to seek coalitions and some measure of unity among disparate populations, meaning compromise. I don't really want to see his message watered down through that process.
    , @SMK
    If only he told the rruth about race and crime and the effects of turning the U.S. into a nonwhite-majority country. Generally, I much prefer Tucker to Hannity but I hope the latter is right in predicting that the virus will be under control in 4-6 weeks and we can "return to normal" -which is bad enough.
  2. …has been urging Mr. Trump to take the threat of coronavirus more seriously.

    Mothertucker.

    • Replies: @Dieter Kief
    Fathertucker.
  3. Does anyone else think Trump already has the corona virus?

    • Replies: @kikz
    corona virus fatigue maybe. as if he didn't have enough on his plate already. i hope he's getting some rest. he sounded a bit tired ystrdy in the address.
    , @Tor597
    https://twitter.com/StandardOrder/status/1238227296026267648?s=20
  4. A journalist having to tell the President to take a pandemic seriously is a national disgrace.

    • Replies: @El Dato
    You get what you can vote for. Tucker takes up the slack? Okay.

    "Czar Nicholas II is a weak person - convinced by the last person he spoke to."

    We know how that ended.

    , @Ragno
    I'm not so sure myself. The great unknown at the moment is the number of infected; the number of dead, however, we're right up to speed on. It's less than 50, most sick and old and in convalescent homes, in a nation of a third of a billion people. "Mortality rate", without that first figure to put the second into context, is so much Chicken Little horseshit.

    One thing is certain, though - whether it's the conventional, man-in-the-sky version or one of the more-recent new-age variants more flattering to virtue-signalling narcissists, we are a religious species - it's in our nature. And part of that, it seems, is a deep-rooted addiction to Armageddon/end-of-days scenarios, of which 'Wuhan virus' is merely the most recent. I think the reason people immediately memory-hole the last panic, whether ebola or swine flu or SARS, is a wee bit of light-of-day embarrassment over the closet full of toilet paper, or the 20,000 rounds of ammo in the attic, from the last round of this is it! we're through the looking glass, people! - it's Walking Dead time! that we're all so very eager to toss into the memory hole alongside the platform shoes, Betamax machines and Zubaz workout pants.

    Remember - if we walk away from Bat Flu (I refuse to call it COVID-19 any longer....plus fuck the Red Chinese) with under 12,000 dead, swine flu will have been worse (and taken less seriously by the President at this point in the outbreak) - the only difference between the two will have been a news media sworn to protect the POTUS at any cost, and one sworn to destroy him at any cost. And - once again, like it or not (and it's alarming how many on the Right do NOT like it) - Trump will have been right.

  5. Tucker’s been on a roll lately. Yes, we could use someone like him in politics. Maybe he’s too smart for that, though.

    FWIW, I collected some of his recent wisdom in a post here the other day:
    https://www.unz.com/isteve/cochran-what-is-to-be-done/#comment-3766182

  6. Thrilling. – I hope somebody writes the Trump novel and – reads (studies in depth!) iSteve.

  7. Rand Paul should nominate Tucker for a Nobel Peace Prize

    https://www.nobelprize.org/nomination/peace/

  8. @Reg Cæsar

    ...has been urging Mr. Trump to take the threat of coronavirus more seriously.
     
    Mothertucker.

    Fathertucker.

  9. Heads popping in NYT offices.

  10. Trump may be the most infantile individual to climb to such heights of power since the time of hereditary rule. It truly does seem like he has absolutely zero curiosity or drive to understand, and relies solely on what he is fed by whoever managed to speak to him last. I supported him in 2016 because of the platform he ran on and despite my distaste for his blowhard buffoonery. Now that it has become apparent the platform was a bait and switch, all that remains is the buffoonery. It is hard to feel confident in this moment of real danger with this clown at the helm.

    • Agree: Jonathan Mason
    • Replies: @Ron Mexico
    The alternative: "Look, fat! You're a lying dog faced pony soldier. You're full of shit. Super Thursday. I'm running for the US Senate. Vote for the other Biden. Corn Pop was a bad dude. Kids like sitting on my lap. I let the kids rub my leg hairs. Play the record player, kids need to hear words." On and on and on. Oh, the one that had Jimmy Dorr play on a loop: "We hold these truths to be self-evident that all men and women are created by the, you know, you know, the thing."
    , @JohnnyWalker123
    Honest question. How many people here are confident in Trump's ability to handle this situation?

    Do you guys think Trump is incompetent?
    , @carsondyal
    Yes, Trump is the Petulant Potentate. With a circus act.
    , @Curle
    “It truly does seem like he has absolutely zero curiosity or drive to understand”

    Not sure that’s the way to describe a man who virtually re-invented luxury real estate branding, mastered the art of self-promotion and created a long running popular TV show.
    , @Malcolm X-Lax
    All that being true, he's still preferable to the alternative. Such is our sad state of affairs.
    , @SMK
    Hope for a Biden victory, then we'll have a president who's already in his second childhood and will become progressively infantile untill he's removed under the 25th amendment -to say nothing of his politics and of those who'll advise him.
    , @V. Hickel
    I try to focus on the positive, like what is happening on the border with asylum crackdown and Remain in Mexico (which is a very big deal). Also, it might be little-known but USCIS is,as of around late 2017, placing all (ok 95%) of denied applicants for permanent residence and certain other immigration benefits into removal proceedings. From 2008-2017, only "serious" criminals were referred for proceedings. Everybody else was simply ignored.
    , @obwandiyag
    Trump is just a typical American president, as typical as could be, and typical of his citizens, who are exactly like him without the money. I like how they think themselves superior to him.
  11. @22pp22
    Tucker for president - seriously. He is the only person who seems to even be aware of the problems that face us, let alone have proposals for addressing them.

    Tucker may be more powerful as media person. But in 4 years, who knows.

    • Replies: @International Jew
    If the Dems win this fall, then four years from now, under a resurrected FCC "Fairness Doctrine", Tucker Carlson will be forced to take on Nikole Hannah-Jones as co-host.
    , @Barnard
    He is the most powerful now because Trump is watching his show. Once Trump leaves the White House where does that leave Tucker? The left will take another run at deplatforming him.
  12. So Carlson has a secret second home in Florida (just like Ann Coulter’s secret third home there)?

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    What's secret about Coulter wintering in Miami? She seems to socialize exclusively with rich gays, though not the po-faced California Puritan type
    , @Barnard
    I think it would be at least a third home. He has had a vacation home in Maine for a long time.
    , @Testing12
    I dont see how that's anyone's business or concern.

    And they're typically called vacation homes not "secret homes".
    , @Jonathan Mason

    So Carlson has a secret second home in Florida (just like Ann Coulter’s secret third home there)?
     
    Florida has no state income tax for individuals, which is a reason why many well-off individuals claim to be residents for 6 months plus 1 day. D. Trump is obviously well aware of this.

    This is part of the reason why professional golfers like Tiger Woods and Rory McIlroy, natives of California and Northern Ireland have their main residences in Florida, the other being that the early season tournaments take place in Florida or next-door Georgia.
  13. Trump has always been notorious for slathering on Purell immediately after every handshake. Visitors are asked to wash their hands before meeting him. In many ways he is a visionary.

    Let’s say there is a lockdown but the epidemic is still going when it is supposed to be back to normal?

    https://www.sciencemediacentre.org/expert-reaction-to-news-that-northern-italy-has-quarantined-16-million-people/

    Prof Mark Woolhouse, Professor of Infectious Disease Epidemiology, University of Edinburgh, said:

    “The movement restrictions announced by Italy today are designed to slow the spread of COVID-19 …. According to the Italian authorities the measures will be in place until April 3rd. This raises several questions.

    “First of all, what is the evidence that 4 weeks is the right duration? What happens if the epidemiological situation inside and/or outside the restriction zone has not improved by April 3rd? Will the restrictions be extended? For how long is Italy willing to keep these restrictions in place?

    “There is an important message here for any country considering imposing travel or movement restrictions in an attempt to slow the spread of COVID-19: what is your exit strategy? What are you expecting to see in the epidemiological data that indicates it is safe to lift the restrictions? And if the epidemic does not behave as hoped, what then?”

    There wouldn’t be a bounce back because it would be crushed say Cochran et al. Hmm, the political decision to remove the lockdown would be impossible to take I think.

    • Replies: @El Dato
    I don't understand these question.

    They are all good questions an which one must work.

    But of course they are not really question.

    "There is important message here for any country"

    They are messages.

    And the message seems to be "don't do anything because you can't be sure to not fail".

    Like telling a driver to not evade the incoming truck, because who knows. There might be kid on the side of the road. There might be ANOTHER truck coming at you from a different direction. The wheel might not respond. Who knows!!

    > 2020:
    > Stars off slow, but then:
    > Tom Hanks Disease!
    > Stock-"Market" Crash!!
    > Betelgeuse goes Supernova!!!
    > True AI achieved!!!
    > Trump Total Takeover!!!!
    , @Redneck farmer
    University of Edinburgh; so he's justifying Great Britain's strategy.
  14. @Sean
    Trump has always been notorious for slathering on Purell immediately after every handshake. Visitors are asked to wash their hands before meeting him. In many ways he is a visionary.

    Let's say there is a lockdown but the epidemic is still going when it is supposed to be back to normal?


    https://www.sciencemediacentre.org/expert-reaction-to-news-that-northern-italy-has-quarantined-16-million-people/

    Prof Mark Woolhouse, Professor of Infectious Disease Epidemiology, University of Edinburgh, said:

    “The movement restrictions announced by Italy today are designed to slow the spread of COVID-19 .... According to the Italian authorities the measures will be in place until April 3rd. This raises several questions.

    “First of all, what is the evidence that 4 weeks is the right duration? What happens if the epidemiological situation inside and/or outside the restriction zone has not improved by April 3rd? Will the restrictions be extended? For how long is Italy willing to keep these restrictions in place?

    “There is an important message here for any country considering imposing travel or movement restrictions in an attempt to slow the spread of COVID-19: what is your exit strategy? What are you expecting to see in the epidemiological data that indicates it is safe to lift the restrictions? And if the epidemic does not behave as hoped, what then?”
     

    There wouldn't be a bounce back because it would be crushed say Cochran et al. Hmm, the political decision to remove the lockdown would be impossible to take I think.

    I don’t understand these question.

    They are all good questions an which one must work.

    But of course they are not really question.

    “There is important message here for any country”

    They are messages.

    And the message seems to be “don’t do anything because you can’t be sure to not fail”.

    Like telling a driver to not evade the incoming truck, because who knows. There might be kid on the side of the road. There might be ANOTHER truck coming at you from a different direction. The wheel might not respond. Who knows!!

    > 2020:
    > Stars off slow, but then:
    > Tom Hanks Disease!
    > Stock-“Market” Crash!!
    > Betelgeuse goes Supernova!!!
    > True AI achieved!!!
    > Trump Total Takeover!!!!

    • Replies: @Sean
    In your analogy the driver has an obvious criterion of going where the least number of people get killed; he could look and decide. Once this lockdown that Team Cochran is so certain is the answer was declared by Trump, where is the criterion for him declaring it will be all right to end the lockdown on schedule? Leaving it until winter is on the way and already busy hospitals are even less able to cope with a Wu Flu bounce is the other horn of a dilemma. I know there are graphs that Wu Flu is supposed to obey, but supposing it is just a little different in practice? I think the almost inevitable problem being stored up for the future by a lockdown is, were Trump to order full lockdown it might well be politically damaging to end it.


    Moreover, there is a real danger inasmuch what is being advocated by Team Cochran would greatly retard the development of herd immunity. Not a big deal with Wu Flu as it is now is. However Professor Ewald has pointed out that the over a million Uighurs China has in its concentration camps are an ideal breeding ground for the development of a terrifyingly lethal modification to Coronavirus (just as Spanish flu came from soldiers in similarly cramped and unsanitary conditions during WW1). With this in mind, the benefits of having herd immunity as soon as possible are far from negligible. Of course, non lockdown and swift herd immunity is not a perfect solution; in all probability more people would die because medical resources would not be able to cope with so many needing treatment at the same time. On the other hand, it might just prevent decimation of the population in a super Wu Flu pandemic coming out of Chinese concentration camps.

    , @Je Suis Omar Mateen
    "Like telling a driver to not evade the incoming truck, because who knows. There might be kid on the side of the road. There might be ANOTHER truck coming at you from a different direction. The wheel might not respond. Who knows!!"

    Terrible simile. It's more like not evading a twig on the roadway because a twig has never caused a vehicle to flip end over end and explode. Hell, a twig never gave anyone a flat tire. The entire fakestream media wants us driving our car into a ditch at full speed to avoid that twig in the road.

    Corona-chan is a hoax designed to remove the President from office because Muh Russia, PoundMeToo, and Fakepeachmint didn't work (along with shitholocaust, Stormy Daniels, etc.)
  15. Tucker Carlson has been advising Trump via his Fox News Show for a long time. And for ye cheap cable cutting bastards (you know who are), the TC show can be found on you tube/ use the filter for “today”. You tube defaces these shows within 12-24 hours, but there are many who post them…… hhahahah

    Actually better on you tube, because you can fast forward thru the boring parts. And adverts are already cut out. Lou Dobbs show on you tube is very good too.

    You tube video downloader -free– https://www.4kdownload.com/products/product-videodownloader

    • Replies: @Ed
    This is probably what drives CNN folks crazy the most, that Tucker and Fox in general wield some much influence. CNN media personalities on Twitter are obsessed with Fox, they tweet about what Fox is doing daily.
    , @Cowboy Shaw
    This is what I do on the train to London every morning (until the recent WFH directive). Search youtube for today's Tucker before Youtube wipe it, check the isteve blog, then basically I'm better informed on America and the world than 99% of the population. I scarcely need any other news source.
  16. @Sean
    Trump has always been notorious for slathering on Purell immediately after every handshake. Visitors are asked to wash their hands before meeting him. In many ways he is a visionary.

    Let's say there is a lockdown but the epidemic is still going when it is supposed to be back to normal?


    https://www.sciencemediacentre.org/expert-reaction-to-news-that-northern-italy-has-quarantined-16-million-people/

    Prof Mark Woolhouse, Professor of Infectious Disease Epidemiology, University of Edinburgh, said:

    “The movement restrictions announced by Italy today are designed to slow the spread of COVID-19 .... According to the Italian authorities the measures will be in place until April 3rd. This raises several questions.

    “First of all, what is the evidence that 4 weeks is the right duration? What happens if the epidemiological situation inside and/or outside the restriction zone has not improved by April 3rd? Will the restrictions be extended? For how long is Italy willing to keep these restrictions in place?

    “There is an important message here for any country considering imposing travel or movement restrictions in an attempt to slow the spread of COVID-19: what is your exit strategy? What are you expecting to see in the epidemiological data that indicates it is safe to lift the restrictions? And if the epidemic does not behave as hoped, what then?”
     

    There wouldn't be a bounce back because it would be crushed say Cochran et al. Hmm, the political decision to remove the lockdown would be impossible to take I think.

    University of Edinburgh; so he’s justifying Great Britain’s strategy.

    • Replies: @Sam Haysom
    Yea you can always count on university professors to defend the policies of the conservative government in place. This might be the most retarded take I’ve ever read here. Just world class stupidity.
  17. Carlson’s problem is his incessant obsession with promotion of the anti-China propaganda meme…so loved by those who are threatened by a rising China. He is using, discredited, Gordon Chang as a China expert…Chang has been predicting the collapse of China for decades.

    • Replies: @Clyde

    Carlson’s problem is his incessant obsession with promotion of the anti-China propaganda meme…so loved by those who are threatened by a rising China.
     
    You must be shtting me. The pro-China liberal media vastly outnumber what Tucker is saying. And Tucker is right about China being a menace. The idiots in the Libby media make Russia-Vlad Putin the bogey man while ignoring China.

    Chang has been wrong. So what. You are also wrong.
    btw China makes 85% of our antibiotics. This is idiotic to be in such a dependent position, thanks to the last four Presidents. Last week some Chinese Goombah was making noises about cutting us off from antibiotics. These btches would love to but they are too cowardly...for now.
    , @Testing12
    China is the world's largest and most powerful totalitarian dictatorship. Why would any freedom loving people not feel threatened by a "rising China"?
    , @Sam Haysom
    Reinforcements for Big Brain Ron incoming. Ron gots his ass whipped in the comments the last two days- except a lot more one named posters spouting pro-Red propaganda. It would be hilarious if one of the poor sops picks Truth as his handle.
  18. Tucker Carlson owns a home in Florida? I’m disappointed in him.

  19. @Anonymous (n)
    Trump may be the most infantile individual to climb to such heights of power since the time of hereditary rule. It truly does seem like he has absolutely zero curiosity or drive to understand, and relies solely on what he is fed by whoever managed to speak to him last. I supported him in 2016 because of the platform he ran on and despite my distaste for his blowhard buffoonery. Now that it has become apparent the platform was a bait and switch, all that remains is the buffoonery. It is hard to feel confident in this moment of real danger with this clown at the helm.

    The alternative: “Look, fat! You’re a lying dog faced pony soldier. You’re full of shit. Super Thursday. I’m running for the US Senate. Vote for the other Biden. Corn Pop was a bad dude. Kids like sitting on my lap. I let the kids rub my leg hairs. Play the record player, kids need to hear words.” On and on and on. Oh, the one that had Jimmy Dorr play on a loop: “We hold these truths to be self-evident that all men and women are created by the, you know, you know, the thing.”

    • Agree: Realist, Harry Baldwin
    • Replies: @Anonymous
    I am somewhat amused by the "Trump fears Biden most" meme that arose after Super Thirsty Thursday. This imagines that JB's supposed congeniality to the deer-hunter states will surpass Trump's demonstrated success there; back in reality, the incumbent's more likely to win Pennsylvania again than Florida.

    Biden is not formidable by any stretch of the word. But of course, anything could happen, in a country where no one's in charge

    , @The Germ Theory of Disease
    "all men and women are created by, you know, the thing."

    If all men and women were created by John Carpenter's The Thing, it would certainly make for more interesting times.

    But who knows, maybe we are? It's certainly true that all Presidents have been created by Cthulhu since 1860 at the very least.
    , @kikz
    the alternative blurb(biden).. the commie(bern), or the neocommie(killary).
    , @Pericles
    Now that we're in the Time of Corona-chan, it is vital that sniffing Joe Biden is kept at least six feet away from any young, white girl. President Trump must issue such an order post-haste.
    , @Onebelowall

    Corn Pop was a bad dude.
     
    In all fairness, it looks like "Corn Pop" was real. An obituary from 2016 was found eulogizing a man from the same area. The man was nicknamed "Corn Pop" and was the age to have been the person in Biden's story. They also found an article referring to a gang called The Romans around the same time:

    https://heavy.com/news/2019/09/joe-biden-corn-pop-william-morris/
  20. Tucker has a great show. He gets Senators and Representatives, a real plethora of DC types who want their three minutes or two minutes on the Tuck’s program to speak their piece. The show zips along because so many people are on, with seemingly a shorter and shorter time slot over the years.
    He will get Bernie supporters, Trump staffers, Tulsi Gabbard a real variety of guests speaking their two minutes on what they regard as true.
    Last night he had on Seema Verda, Trump health SPOX, a subcontinental Brahman type who bullshitted Martha McCallum the night before, on the number of ventilators in the USA.
    So Tucker has her on his show the next night
    ‘How many ventilators do we have?’Blah blah …. she still parries and evades. Later Tucker, himself, would say we have 160,000 ventilators and 9000 in the emergency supply Seema Verda hinted at.Not enough! but she does not want to say so.Then he has a guy from Minnesota who completey castigates Seema Verda for her ‘happy talk’ and evasions.
    All Tucker wanted was a number and he never got one.
    Don’t fuck with the Tuck!
    https://www.mediaite.com/tv/tucker-carlson-confronts-coronavirus-task-force-official-i-was-really-troubled-by-your-comments/

  21. @Ali Choudhury
    A journalist having to tell the President to take a pandemic seriously is a national disgrace.

    You get what you can vote for. Tucker takes up the slack? Okay.

    “Czar Nicholas II is a weak person – convinced by the last person he spoke to.”

    We know how that ended.

  22. @RichardTaylor
    Tucker may be more powerful as media person. But in 4 years, who knows.

    If the Dems win this fall, then four years from now, under a resurrected FCC “Fairness Doctrine”, Tucker Carlson will be forced to take on Nikole Hannah-Jones as co-host.

    • LOL: Louis Renault
  23. @Anonymous (n)
    Trump may be the most infantile individual to climb to such heights of power since the time of hereditary rule. It truly does seem like he has absolutely zero curiosity or drive to understand, and relies solely on what he is fed by whoever managed to speak to him last. I supported him in 2016 because of the platform he ran on and despite my distaste for his blowhard buffoonery. Now that it has become apparent the platform was a bait and switch, all that remains is the buffoonery. It is hard to feel confident in this moment of real danger with this clown at the helm.

    Honest question. How many people here are confident in Trump’s ability to handle this situation?

    Do you guys think Trump is incompetent?

    • Replies: @Clyde

    Do you guys think Trump is incompetent?
     
    Going by your fully caffeinated, amped-up posting style, you are the incompetent. You remind me of a Talking Heads song. A real live wire. High IQ though!
    , @MG
    Trump has already put in place his Coronavirus team. The real question then is - is the team competent? I lean towards yes, for now.
    , @Corvinus
    Asking for a friend...Is Mr. Sailer confident in Trump’s ability to handle this situation?
    , @Mr. Anon

    Honest question. How many people here are confident in Trump’s ability to handle this situation?

    Do you guys think Trump is incompetent?
     
    Given that I think this "situation" is largely a media-riot, yes I am confident he can handle it.

    Do I think Trump is incompetent? Yes.

    But - never fear - Trump has got top-people working this, such as world-renowned super-genius Jared Kushner:

    https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/03/jared-kushner-now-on-trumps-coronavirus-team-report.html

    Granted, this is a hit-piece, but if the "inside-sources" are right, then it is embarrassing.
    , @Jonathan Mason

    Honest question. How many people here are confident in Trump’s ability to handle this situation?
     
    Trump has competent people to advise him, and if he follows their advice, stops lying about everything, and stops putting out garbage on Twitter, then I think the situation will be handled somewhat competently from the health point of view.

    From the commercial point of view, I don't know. Was it the unanimous opinion of the White House advisory panel on coronavirus that all transatlantic flights should be shut down, or was it a kind of Supreme Court 5-4 split decision? Why the volte-face over the UK?

    Trumps greatest fear seems to have been the tanking of the stock market, and yet he has single-handedly contributed more than any one other person to this by repeatedly telling farcical lies that undermine confidence in his administration.

    What we don't know at this point is whether the Trump adminstration's "shut down everything" methodology is superior to the UK (and other countries') "welcome the virus" approach. Only time will tell.

    But if Trump can put a rubber band round his wrist and snap it every time he feels a lie coming on, he may at least avoid making things worse.
  24. @Clyde
    Tucker Carlson has been advising Trump via his Fox News Show for a long time. And for ye cheap cable cutting bastards (you know who are), the TC show can be found on you tube/ use the filter for "today". You tube defaces these shows within 12-24 hours, but there are many who post them...... hhahahah

    Actually better on you tube, because you can fast forward thru the boring parts. And adverts are already cut out. Lou Dobbs show on you tube is very good too.

    You tube video downloader -free-- https://www.4kdownload.com/products/product-videodownloader

    This is probably what drives CNN folks crazy the most, that Tucker and Fox in general wield some much influence. CNN media personalities on Twitter are obsessed with Fox, they tweet about what Fox is doing daily.

    • Replies: @Jim Don Bob
    CNN has fewer viewers than the Hallmark Channel. They pay airports to carry them.
    , @JerseyJeffersonian
    Some of those CNN personality-simulacrae obsess over what the Babylon Bee says. I haven't taken them seriously for I just can't remember how many years.
  25. @Ed
    This is probably what drives CNN folks crazy the most, that Tucker and Fox in general wield some much influence. CNN media personalities on Twitter are obsessed with Fox, they tweet about what Fox is doing daily.

    CNN has fewer viewers than the Hallmark Channel. They pay airports to carry them.

  26. Go Tuck!

    Last night he refused the prevarications of one of the health bureaucrats. One who refused twice in two different interviews how much health equipment inventory there is, with hopeful optimism. Your basic quibbler. Tuck then gave the number of one item. A pittance if this thing goes full bore.

  27. @Anon
    So Carlson has a secret second home in Florida (just like Ann Coulter's secret third home there)?

    What’s secret about Coulter wintering in Miami? She seems to socialize exclusively with rich gays, though not the po-faced California Puritan type

    • Replies: @dr kill
    She has honeyhammock on speed dial.
    , @Anno

    What’s secret about Coulter wintering in Miami?
     
    Her Twitter profile lists her as NY/LA, but she seems to be in Florida half the year, partying with Drudge.
  28. A Steve First:

    The first thing I have read about the ‘whatever’ virus that made me laugh!

    Thanks for the reprieve.

  29. I write from my walk-in closet.

    You need to man-up and face the world. I told my young colleagues yesterday that given the risk factors, I am probably a dead man walking, and that while one of them may end up with my job, none of them will ever get the same pay, especially in the brave new world they are facing.

    • Agree: Federalist
    • LOL: vhrm
  30. @El Dato
    I don't understand these question.

    They are all good questions an which one must work.

    But of course they are not really question.

    "There is important message here for any country"

    They are messages.

    And the message seems to be "don't do anything because you can't be sure to not fail".

    Like telling a driver to not evade the incoming truck, because who knows. There might be kid on the side of the road. There might be ANOTHER truck coming at you from a different direction. The wheel might not respond. Who knows!!

    > 2020:
    > Stars off slow, but then:
    > Tom Hanks Disease!
    > Stock-"Market" Crash!!
    > Betelgeuse goes Supernova!!!
    > True AI achieved!!!
    > Trump Total Takeover!!!!

    In your analogy the driver has an obvious criterion of going where the least number of people get killed; he could look and decide. Once this lockdown that Team Cochran is so certain is the answer was declared by Trump, where is the criterion for him declaring it will be all right to end the lockdown on schedule? Leaving it until winter is on the way and already busy hospitals are even less able to cope with a Wu Flu bounce is the other horn of a dilemma. I know there are graphs that Wu Flu is supposed to obey, but supposing it is just a little different in practice? I think the almost inevitable problem being stored up for the future by a lockdown is, were Trump to order full lockdown it might well be politically damaging to end it.

    Moreover, there is a real danger inasmuch what is being advocated by Team Cochran would greatly retard the development of herd immunity. Not a big deal with Wu Flu as it is now is. However Professor Ewald has pointed out that the over a million Uighurs China has in its concentration camps are an ideal breeding ground for the development of a terrifyingly lethal modification to Coronavirus (just as Spanish flu came from soldiers in similarly cramped and unsanitary conditions during WW1). With this in mind, the benefits of having herd immunity as soon as possible are far from negligible. Of course, non lockdown and swift herd immunity is not a perfect solution; in all probability more people would die because medical resources would not be able to cope with so many needing treatment at the same time. On the other hand, it might just prevent decimation of the population in a super Wu Flu pandemic coming out of Chinese concentration camps.

  31. Anonymous[739] • Disclaimer says:
    @Ron Mexico
    The alternative: "Look, fat! You're a lying dog faced pony soldier. You're full of shit. Super Thursday. I'm running for the US Senate. Vote for the other Biden. Corn Pop was a bad dude. Kids like sitting on my lap. I let the kids rub my leg hairs. Play the record player, kids need to hear words." On and on and on. Oh, the one that had Jimmy Dorr play on a loop: "We hold these truths to be self-evident that all men and women are created by the, you know, you know, the thing."

    I am somewhat amused by the “Trump fears Biden most” meme that arose after Super Thirsty Thursday. This imagines that JB’s supposed congeniality to the deer-hunter states will surpass Trump’s demonstrated success there; back in reality, the incumbent’s more likely to win Pennsylvania again than Florida.

    Biden is not formidable by any stretch of the word. But of course, anything could happen, in a country where no one’s in charge

    • Replies: @Realist
    I agree with everything except:

    But of course, anything could happen, in a country where no one’s in charge
     
    Well there is a group in charge alright...the Deep State
  32. @RichardTaylor
    Tucker may be more powerful as media person. But in 4 years, who knows.

    He is the most powerful now because Trump is watching his show. Once Trump leaves the White House where does that leave Tucker? The left will take another run at deplatforming him.

  33. @Anonymous (n)
    Trump may be the most infantile individual to climb to such heights of power since the time of hereditary rule. It truly does seem like he has absolutely zero curiosity or drive to understand, and relies solely on what he is fed by whoever managed to speak to him last. I supported him in 2016 because of the platform he ran on and despite my distaste for his blowhard buffoonery. Now that it has become apparent the platform was a bait and switch, all that remains is the buffoonery. It is hard to feel confident in this moment of real danger with this clown at the helm.

    Yes, Trump is the Petulant Potentate. With a circus act.

    • Replies: @WJ
    A circus act perhaps but Trump 10,000 times over the lunatic hate whitey clown car that was the entire Democratic party field of presidential candidates. Hating Trump is easy but unless you are an "accelerationist" there is no other option.
  34. @Anon
    So Carlson has a secret second home in Florida (just like Ann Coulter's secret third home there)?

    I think it would be at least a third home. He has had a vacation home in Maine for a long time.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    Tucker loves acquiring real estate.
  35. @Barnard
    I think it would be at least a third home. He has had a vacation home in Maine for a long time.

    Tucker loves acquiring real estate.

    • Replies: @Clyde

    Tucker loves acquiring real estate.
     
    His main home is in Washington DC...... NW I believe. Very posh and leafy there in NW-DC. I had relatives I visited.
  36. @Realist
    Carlson's problem is his incessant obsession with promotion of the anti-China propaganda meme...so loved by those who are threatened by a rising China. He is using, discredited, Gordon Chang as a China expert...Chang has been predicting the collapse of China for decades.

    Carlson’s problem is his incessant obsession with promotion of the anti-China propaganda meme…so loved by those who are threatened by a rising China.

    You must be shtting me. The pro-China liberal media vastly outnumber what Tucker is saying. And Tucker is right about China being a menace. The idiots in the Libby media make Russia-Vlad Putin the bogey man while ignoring China.

    Chang has been wrong. So what. You are also wrong.
    btw China makes 85% of our antibiotics. This is idiotic to be in such a dependent position, thanks to the last four Presidents. Last week some Chinese Goombah was making noises about cutting us off from antibiotics. These btches would love to but they are too cowardly…for now.

    • Replies: @Realist

    And Tucker is right about China being a menace.
     
    The US does much more against China, than China does against the US. This dumbass country sends it war ships all over the world...pressuring dozens of countries to let us run their country for them. The US is the most hegemonic country on this planet by orders of magnitude.
    Give an example of how China is a menace?

    The idiots in the Libby media make Russia-Vlad Putin the bogey man while ignoring China.
     
    It is obvious Russia doesn't fear China.

    Last week some Chinese Goombah was making noises about cutting us off from antibiotics.
     
    How do you know that? It is probably US Propaganda.

    You are also wrong.
     
    Explain how?

    btw China makes 85% of our antibiotics. This is idiotic to be in such a dependent position, thanks to the last four Presidents.
     
    How is it China's fault that this country is so stupid as to outsource critical products?
    The last four Presidents includes Trump...who has done nothing to remedy the situation.

    The Deep State has been in control of all US actions that increase their power and wealth for years

    It would do you good to think for yourself.
  37. @Steve Sailer
    Tucker loves acquiring real estate.

    Tucker loves acquiring real estate.

    His main home is in Washington DC…… NW I believe. Very posh and leafy there in NW-DC. I had relatives I visited.

  38. @Clyde
    Tucker Carlson has been advising Trump via his Fox News Show for a long time. And for ye cheap cable cutting bastards (you know who are), the TC show can be found on you tube/ use the filter for "today". You tube defaces these shows within 12-24 hours, but there are many who post them...... hhahahah

    Actually better on you tube, because you can fast forward thru the boring parts. And adverts are already cut out. Lou Dobbs show on you tube is very good too.

    You tube video downloader -free-- https://www.4kdownload.com/products/product-videodownloader

    This is what I do on the train to London every morning (until the recent WFH directive). Search youtube for today’s Tucker before Youtube wipe it, check the isteve blog, then basically I’m better informed on America and the world than 99% of the population. I scarcely need any other news source.

    • Replies: @Clyde
    Way to do it. And use youtube's "posted today" filter which means last 24 hours. Best of luck in UK with this corona virus. I couldn't even buy two jars of roasted peanuts today. At 11AM all the serious shoppers were in the grocery store with shopping carts 20 deep in line to check out.
  39. @JohnnyWalker123
    Honest question. How many people here are confident in Trump's ability to handle this situation?

    Do you guys think Trump is incompetent?

    Do you guys think Trump is incompetent?

    Going by your fully caffeinated, amped-up posting style, you are the incompetent. You remind me of a Talking Heads song. A real live wire. High IQ though!

  40. @JohnnyWalker123
    Honest question. How many people here are confident in Trump's ability to handle this situation?

    Do you guys think Trump is incompetent?

    Trump has already put in place his Coronavirus team. The real question then is – is the team competent? I lean towards yes, for now.

    • Replies: @JohnnyWalker123

    The real question then is – is the team competent

     

    Watch this.

    https://twitter.com/RichardBSpencer/status/1238921166074466304
  41. Never let a good crisis go to waste?

    If now isn’t the time to get serious about border control and repatriate industries necessary for national security, update the power grid and other infrastructure. when is? Call it emergency stimulus. Give the investment money somewhere to go. Roll back the red tape. Get things done, think of the children.!

    Granted, We have a higher cost structure than China but we have a lot of people to employ and can start Omer with new technology. Send much of the work to México and Central America and we can build a more secure perimeter.

    • Replies: @Pericles
    Hear, hear!
  42. @JohnnyWalker123
    Honest question. How many people here are confident in Trump's ability to handle this situation?

    Do you guys think Trump is incompetent?

    Asking for a friend…Is Mr. Sailer confident in Trump’s ability to handle this situation?

  43. @Ron Mexico
    The alternative: "Look, fat! You're a lying dog faced pony soldier. You're full of shit. Super Thursday. I'm running for the US Senate. Vote for the other Biden. Corn Pop was a bad dude. Kids like sitting on my lap. I let the kids rub my leg hairs. Play the record player, kids need to hear words." On and on and on. Oh, the one that had Jimmy Dorr play on a loop: "We hold these truths to be self-evident that all men and women are created by the, you know, you know, the thing."

    “all men and women are created by, you know, the thing.”

    If all men and women were created by John Carpenter’s The Thing, it would certainly make for more interesting times.

    But who knows, maybe we are? It’s certainly true that all Presidents have been created by Cthulhu since 1860 at the very least.

    • Replies: @Ron Mexico
    My daughter and I were joking about Biden perhaps being an alien right after he tried to quote Jefferson. Who knows? Didn't Iron Maiden do a song, "The Call of Cthulhu"? Too lazy to look it up. Some metal band did it.
  44. Tucker was an early voice on the Coronavirus issue. By January 23, China had shut down a city the size of New York. On international media, you could see dramatic coverage emerging from China showing massive trucks driving through the streets spaying disinfectant, people being rounded up because they were supposedly sick, and hospitals crowded with what appeared to be dead bodies. Tucker started covering Coronavirus early on. Meanwhile, if you switched over to MSNBC, it was just endless ranting about Ukraine, Russia, and some thing that Lev Parnas said that Giuliani said Trump said. It really made the myopia of the American media clear.

    That said, I would have much more confidence in Tucker to deal with this issue. He understands that, in addition to the more immediate steps to slow the spread of the epidemic in the U.S., it has revealed a more fundamental problem in our economy. We can never be in a position where officials of a foreign government can threaten to cut off vital drug supplies if they don’t like what we say. We need a plan to repatriate all key industries and decouple them from China. We need to cut them off.

    • Replies: @indocon
    This is a crisis Trump should not let go waste, borders and immigration are central to it. With Biden as his opponent, he has no choice but to hunker down on these issues. With Bernies he might have skated on with stock market and socialism talking points.
    , @Bugg
    For unknown reasons, Mitt Romney's ramblings get dumped into my facebook account. And yesterday he was whining about China controlling our drug supply . Yet it was bust out vampire capitalist scum like Romney who post NAFTA sent a good chunk of American manufacturing east in the 1990s, all in the name of "comparative advantage". 2 behind the ear for him is too kind. A bit like an arsonist complaining about the all the smoke and firetruck sirens.As bad a president as Obama was , Romney and McCain probably would both have been far worse.
  45. @Ali Choudhury
    A journalist having to tell the President to take a pandemic seriously is a national disgrace.

    I’m not so sure myself. The great unknown at the moment is the number of infected; the number of dead, however, we’re right up to speed on. It’s less than 50, most sick and old and in convalescent homes, in a nation of a third of a billion people. “Mortality rate”, without that first figure to put the second into context, is so much Chicken Little horseshit.

    One thing is certain, though – whether it’s the conventional, man-in-the-sky version or one of the more-recent new-age variants more flattering to virtue-signalling narcissists, we are a religious species – it’s in our nature. And part of that, it seems, is a deep-rooted addiction to Armageddon/end-of-days scenarios, of which ‘Wuhan virus’ is merely the most recent. I think the reason people immediately memory-hole the last panic, whether ebola or swine flu or SARS, is a wee bit of light-of-day embarrassment over the closet full of toilet paper, or the 20,000 rounds of ammo in the attic, from the last round of this is it! we’re through the looking glass, people! – it’s Walking Dead time! that we’re all so very eager to toss into the memory hole alongside the platform shoes, Betamax machines and Zubaz workout pants.

    Remember – if we walk away from Bat Flu (I refuse to call it COVID-19 any longer….plus fuck the Red Chinese) with under 12,000 dead, swine flu will have been worse (and taken less seriously by the President at this point in the outbreak) – the only difference between the two will have been a news media sworn to protect the POTUS at any cost, and one sworn to destroy him at any cost. And – once again, like it or not (and it’s alarming how many on the Right do NOT like it) – Trump will have been right.

    • Agree: Jim Don Bob
  46. @22pp22
    Tucker for president - seriously. He is the only person who seems to even be aware of the problems that face us, let alone have proposals for addressing them.

    I like the idea (though I’m increasingly warming up to Ted Cruz)…..but Tucker could use more than a bit of Trump’s animal cunning. Considering that Chief Executives as monolithically hated by the Deep State as Trump is usually end up shot by, cough, some deranged loner, you had better believe that Trump’s “slavish devotion” to the sinister state of Israel has kept him alive and untouched thus far – quite a feat given that his Secret Service detail might conceivably be as loyal as the FBI and CIA. Tucker Carlson, bless his pure-hearted decency, has made no bones about his antipathy to the hedge-fund vulture capitalists clinking champagne flutes to the human misery they create and exploit- and that’s the equivalent of declaring war on Israel.

    Tucker’s no dummy….he probably knows that. Look at what his wife and kids had to go through simply for his habit of saying the word “antifa” without the light of adoration glittering in his eyes; I think he might love his family too much to put them through a steady diet of the same, or worse.

  47. Tucker is too good. This country doesn’t deserve him.

  48. @Anon
    So Carlson has a secret second home in Florida (just like Ann Coulter's secret third home there)?

    I dont see how that’s anyone’s business or concern.

    And they’re typically called vacation homes not “secret homes”.

  49. @Realist
    Carlson's problem is his incessant obsession with promotion of the anti-China propaganda meme...so loved by those who are threatened by a rising China. He is using, discredited, Gordon Chang as a China expert...Chang has been predicting the collapse of China for decades.

    China is the world’s largest and most powerful totalitarian dictatorship. Why would any freedom loving people not feel threatened by a “rising China”?

    • Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease
    "why would any freedom-loving people not feel threatened by a rising China?"

    If you can show me a freedom-loving people anywhere in the West, I will give you a shiny silver Walking Liberty dollar coin with a half-naked Elsie Stevens on the verso.

    "The pure products of America go crazy..." -- William C. Williams
    , @Realist

    China is the world’s largest and most powerful totalitarian dictatorship. Why would any freedom loving people not feel threatened by a “rising China”?
     
    Because China is a dictatorship doesn't inherently make it a threat. How does China threaten the US?
    There is no country on this planet more threatening to world peace and freedom, than the US.
    The fact that you think people in America are free is proof you are an easy mark for US propaganda.
  50. @Anon
    So Carlson has a secret second home in Florida (just like Ann Coulter's secret third home there)?

    So Carlson has a secret second home in Florida (just like Ann Coulter’s secret third home there)?

    Florida has no state income tax for individuals, which is a reason why many well-off individuals claim to be residents for 6 months plus 1 day. D. Trump is obviously well aware of this.

    This is part of the reason why professional golfers like Tiger Woods and Rory McIlroy, natives of California and Northern Ireland have their main residences in Florida, the other being that the early season tournaments take place in Florida or next-door Georgia.

    • Replies: @Faraday's Bobcat

    Florida has no state income tax for individuals, which is a reason why many well-off individuals claim to be residents for 6 months plus 1 day. D. Trump is obviously well aware of this.

    This is part of the reason why professional golfers like Tiger Woods and Rory McIlroy, natives of California and Northern Ireland have their main residences in Florida, the other being that the early season tournaments take place in Florida or next-door Georgia.
     
    Seems to me state income tax is only a concern for the merely rich, like $1 mil/year.

    These guys are mega-rich. What's the point of that level of wealth if you can't live where you want?
  51. @22pp22
    Tucker for president - seriously. He is the only person who seems to even be aware of the problems that face us, let alone have proposals for addressing them.

    We could do worse. MUCH worse!

  52. As far as I can tell, the only problem is that Trump has passively selected herd immunity as the US strategy. Or maybe he’s been obfuscating/playing dumb so he wouldn’t have to endure intense discussions about the pitfalls of letting things play out naturally.

  53. @Anonymous (n)
    Trump may be the most infantile individual to climb to such heights of power since the time of hereditary rule. It truly does seem like he has absolutely zero curiosity or drive to understand, and relies solely on what he is fed by whoever managed to speak to him last. I supported him in 2016 because of the platform he ran on and despite my distaste for his blowhard buffoonery. Now that it has become apparent the platform was a bait and switch, all that remains is the buffoonery. It is hard to feel confident in this moment of real danger with this clown at the helm.

    “It truly does seem like he has absolutely zero curiosity or drive to understand”

    Not sure that’s the way to describe a man who virtually re-invented luxury real estate branding, mastered the art of self-promotion and created a long running popular TV show.

    • Replies: @Bill
    I agree that he is accomplished and that this is a reason to doubt the incompetence conclusion (though, to be honest, I believe he is incompetent at this point). How can we be sure that his accomplishments are not caused by psychopathy, superior talents for bullshitting and gladhanding, and luck?
    , @Kratoklastes

    created a long running popular TV show
     
    That would be Marc Burnett.

    The other two things on your list are not indicia of competence: they're indicia of a bullshit-artistry and a willingness to defraud customers, contracters and financiers - exploiting widespread, open-mouthed, slack-jawed American gullibility.
  54. @Anonymous
    What's secret about Coulter wintering in Miami? She seems to socialize exclusively with rich gays, though not the po-faced California Puritan type

    She has honeyhammock on speed dial.

  55. I gave up on Trump long ago. Having said that, this is just one more case of the media blaming Trump for every ill under the sun.

    I’d be willing to bet that Obama holdovers in the Trump administration would sabotage his efforts to contain the virus no matter what course of action he decided to take.

  56. @Redneck farmer
    University of Edinburgh; so he's justifying Great Britain's strategy.

    Yea you can always count on university professors to defend the policies of the conservative government in place. This might be the most retarded take I’ve ever read here. Just world class stupidity.

  57. @Realist
    Carlson's problem is his incessant obsession with promotion of the anti-China propaganda meme...so loved by those who are threatened by a rising China. He is using, discredited, Gordon Chang as a China expert...Chang has been predicting the collapse of China for decades.

    Reinforcements for Big Brain Ron incoming. Ron gots his ass whipped in the comments the last two days- except a lot more one named posters spouting pro-Red propaganda. It would be hilarious if one of the poor sops picks Truth as his handle.

    • Replies: @Realist

    Reinforcements for Big Brain Ron incoming. Ron gots his ass whipped in the comments the last two days- except a lot more one named posters spouting pro-Red propaganda. It would be hilarious if one of the poor sops picks Truth as his handle.
     
    Your reply has nothing to do with my comment.
  58. @Sam Haysom
    Reinforcements for Big Brain Ron incoming. Ron gots his ass whipped in the comments the last two days- except a lot more one named posters spouting pro-Red propaganda. It would be hilarious if one of the poor sops picks Truth as his handle.

    Reinforcements for Big Brain Ron incoming. Ron gots his ass whipped in the comments the last two days- except a lot more one named posters spouting pro-Red propaganda. It would be hilarious if one of the poor sops picks Truth as his handle.

    Your reply has nothing to do with my comment.

    • Replies: @Deadite
    What he’s saying is that your a Chines apologist and maybe a drone. I don’t think you’re a drone. But you do seem like an apologist.

    By the way, Gordon Chang brought this to John Batchelors attention on his Jan 6 show. So Gordon was more right than almost all the experts who said this would be a nothing burger.

    By the way, I agree with Tucker a lot - although having mike Dewine and that idiot doctor who says that there are 100k infected in Ohio when they have had no deaths was not his brightest moment.
  59. @miss marple
    Does anyone else think Trump already has the corona virus?

    corona virus fatigue maybe. as if he didn’t have enough on his plate already. i hope he’s getting some rest. he sounded a bit tired ystrdy in the address.

    • Replies: @miss marple
    Well, if Trump has covid19 and comes through ok then he has bragging rights.

    Oh, and how's Sim?
  60. @Anonymous (n)
    Trump may be the most infantile individual to climb to such heights of power since the time of hereditary rule. It truly does seem like he has absolutely zero curiosity or drive to understand, and relies solely on what he is fed by whoever managed to speak to him last. I supported him in 2016 because of the platform he ran on and despite my distaste for his blowhard buffoonery. Now that it has become apparent the platform was a bait and switch, all that remains is the buffoonery. It is hard to feel confident in this moment of real danger with this clown at the helm.

    All that being true, he’s still preferable to the alternative. Such is our sad state of affairs.

  61. @Anonymous
    I am somewhat amused by the "Trump fears Biden most" meme that arose after Super Thirsty Thursday. This imagines that JB's supposed congeniality to the deer-hunter states will surpass Trump's demonstrated success there; back in reality, the incumbent's more likely to win Pennsylvania again than Florida.

    Biden is not formidable by any stretch of the word. But of course, anything could happen, in a country where no one's in charge

    I agree with everything except:

    But of course, anything could happen, in a country where no one’s in charge

    Well there is a group in charge alright…the Deep State

  62. @Ron Mexico
    The alternative: "Look, fat! You're a lying dog faced pony soldier. You're full of shit. Super Thursday. I'm running for the US Senate. Vote for the other Biden. Corn Pop was a bad dude. Kids like sitting on my lap. I let the kids rub my leg hairs. Play the record player, kids need to hear words." On and on and on. Oh, the one that had Jimmy Dorr play on a loop: "We hold these truths to be self-evident that all men and women are created by the, you know, you know, the thing."

    the alternative blurb(biden).. the commie(bern), or the neocommie(killary).

  63. Trump-Carlson 2020.

  64. @El Dato
    I don't understand these question.

    They are all good questions an which one must work.

    But of course they are not really question.

    "There is important message here for any country"

    They are messages.

    And the message seems to be "don't do anything because you can't be sure to not fail".

    Like telling a driver to not evade the incoming truck, because who knows. There might be kid on the side of the road. There might be ANOTHER truck coming at you from a different direction. The wheel might not respond. Who knows!!

    > 2020:
    > Stars off slow, but then:
    > Tom Hanks Disease!
    > Stock-"Market" Crash!!
    > Betelgeuse goes Supernova!!!
    > True AI achieved!!!
    > Trump Total Takeover!!!!

    “Like telling a driver to not evade the incoming truck, because who knows. There might be kid on the side of the road. There might be ANOTHER truck coming at you from a different direction. The wheel might not respond. Who knows!!”

    Terrible simile. It’s more like not evading a twig on the roadway because a twig has never caused a vehicle to flip end over end and explode. Hell, a twig never gave anyone a flat tire. The entire fakestream media wants us driving our car into a ditch at full speed to avoid that twig in the road.

    Corona-chan is a hoax designed to remove the President from office because Muh Russia, PoundMeToo, and Fakepeachmint didn’t work (along with shitholocaust, Stormy Daniels, etc.)

    • Agree: Ragno
  65. Anonymous[303] • Disclaimer says:
    @22pp22
    Tucker for president - seriously. He is the only person who seems to even be aware of the problems that face us, let alone have proposals for addressing them.

    Trump should dump the neo-con friendly fundgelical Pence for Tucker.
    Two great reasons for this:

    1) It’d make Carlson the heir-apparent in four years
    2) In the mean time Tucker could keep very close tabs on Trump and pressure him to fulfill all of his America 1st promises. The Tucker agenda rather than the Javanka agenda.

    • Replies: @Dieter Kief
    Your point No.2 sounds like an alarm signal to Trump not to hire Carlson. Unless Trump would not have you strategic genius. But could that be? - I honestly dunno.
  66. @Curle
    “It truly does seem like he has absolutely zero curiosity or drive to understand”

    Not sure that’s the way to describe a man who virtually re-invented luxury real estate branding, mastered the art of self-promotion and created a long running popular TV show.

    I agree that he is accomplished and that this is a reason to doubt the incompetence conclusion (though, to be honest, I believe he is incompetent at this point). How can we be sure that his accomplishments are not caused by psychopathy, superior talents for bullshitting and gladhanding, and luck?

    • Replies: @Flubber
    You are so salty that he makes the lefts politicians look like the bozo shits that they are.

    I mean Trump may be a bullshitter, but the likes of Warren and Harris are straight up cunts, Bernie the Bolshevik has a mob of gulagger's in his wake and Joe Biden cant put his pants on straight.
  67. What Tucker should be telling Trump that crashing the world economy leaves him holding the bag, just as it did to Herbert Hoover. We have nothing to fear except Joe Biden appearing to be a compassionate, reasonable alternative to the man who crushed the US economy because a handful of people died.

    • Replies: @Ragno
    I'm glad you said this. It's a lie, of course - the MSM, in conjunction with every grandstanding Democrat mayor and governor, have cratered the economy and doomed millions to unemployment - but I doubt there'll be very many people with access to The Microphone saying as much. They'll be repeating your post up there almost verbatim ....naturally, they can't do it just yet , but rest assured they're memorizing it now; trying to get the inflections just right, and timing that sudden "sob in the throat" for precisely the key moment. (Also, you might as well set your watches now for the triumphant re-emergence of Keith Olbermann, like a turd that assiduously taught itself to swim up the sewage pipe to bob in your toilet tank anew. As every soapbox parasite amidst the rubble of America knows, putrescence means opportunity; and he is planning accordingly.)

    We're going to hear so much about who is or isn't "smart" enough for the office that I expect the far larger truth - that high intelligence and chat-show glibness are not prerequisites for a superior President; in fact they are generally dangerous things - to be atomized immediately, and the only prerequisite for the office that means anything (a kneejerk devotion to the Constitution, and specifically the Bill of Rights) to be briefly paid lip service before the heavy duty dismantling/demolition of the document takes place immediately after the election. The entirety of the Deep State, led of course by media with a tiny handful of outliers dissenting, will deny it is even happening until it is concluded. Back to business as usual, and not a moment too soon, eh?

    , @epebble

    a handful of people died.
     
    I think the question is not how many died as much as how did they die. 3K on 9/11 was a very big deal. 1K due to Katrina produced a lot of finger pointing but no long lasting sense of national catastrophe. 3K due to Hurricane Maria - how many have even heard of it? The problem of covid is the slow drip-drip sense of doom. A plane crash of 300 people will be in headline news for a day and mostly forgotten a few weeks later (all except the victims families). 300 seniors dying over a 30 day period induces a lot of social fear.
    , @Ragno
    I’m glad you said this. It’s a lie, of course – the MSM, in conjunction with every grandstanding Democrat mayor and governor, have cratered the economy and doomed millions to unemployment – but I doubt there’ll be very many people with access to The Microphone saying as much. They’ll be repeating your post up there almost verbatim ….naturally, they can’t do it just yet , but rest assured they’re memorizing it now; trying to get the inflections just right, and timing that sudden “sob in the throat” for precisely the key moment. (Also, you might as well set your watches now for the triumphant re-emergence of Keith Olbermann, like a turd that assiduously taught itself to swim up the sewage pipe to bob anew in your toilet tank. As every soapbox parasite amidst the rubble of America knows, putrescence means opportunity; and he is planning accordingly.)

    We’re going to hear so much about who is or isn’t “smart” enough for the office that I expect the far larger truth – that high intelligence and chat-show glibness are not prerequisites for a superior President; in fact they are generally dangerous things – to be atomized immediately, and the only prerequisite for the office that means anything (a kneejerk devotion to the Constitution, and specifically the Bill of Rights) to be briefly paid lip service before the heavy duty dismantling/demolition of the document takes place immediately after the election. The entirety of the Deep State, led of course by media with a tiny handful of outliers dissenting, will deny it is even happening until it is concluded. Back to business as usual, and not a moment too soon, eh?

  68. @miss marple
    Does anyone else think Trump already has the corona virus?

    • Replies: @miss marple
    Is that you, Julian?
    , @Anno
    The exposure was on the 8th and the mean time till symptoms is 5 days (and Trump is in his 70ss). So this "Trump has corona from the Brazil guy" is past its sell-by date. If he ever gets it, it will be from some other source.
  69. I hope Tucker was wearing a mask, since Trump might be infected.

    Tucker Carlson could make for a good president someday, along with Kris Kobach.

  70. @JohnnyWalker123
    Honest question. How many people here are confident in Trump's ability to handle this situation?

    Do you guys think Trump is incompetent?

    Honest question. How many people here are confident in Trump’s ability to handle this situation?

    Do you guys think Trump is incompetent?

    Given that I think this “situation” is largely a media-riot, yes I am confident he can handle it.

    Do I think Trump is incompetent? Yes.

    But – never fear – Trump has got top-people working this, such as world-renowned super-genius Jared Kushner:

    https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/03/jared-kushner-now-on-trumps-coronavirus-team-report.html

    Granted, this is a hit-piece, but if the “inside-sources” are right, then it is embarrassing.

    • Replies: @JohnnyWalker123

    Given that I think this “situation” is largely a media-riot, yes I am confident he can handle it.

     

    I have no idea whether the media is over exaggerating or whether this epidemic is the real deal, but consider this.

    China instituted a massive heavy-handed response to the outbreak there. To a lesser extent, so did South Korea. Italy is under national quarantine. Spain, Norway, and France have instituted sweeping restrictions. Iran is building mass graves for all the dead.

    Are we so sure that this Corona hype is "fake news"?

    I'm not saying that I know one way or the other, but it's interesting that so many other countries (especially competent East Asian nations) responded with such strength.

    I wouldn't dispute your assertion that the media hates Trump, but is this really "fake news"?
  71. @Ed
    This is probably what drives CNN folks crazy the most, that Tucker and Fox in general wield some much influence. CNN media personalities on Twitter are obsessed with Fox, they tweet about what Fox is doing daily.

    Some of those CNN personality-simulacrae obsess over what the Babylon Bee says. I haven’t taken them seriously for I just can’t remember how many years.

  72. @Jonathan Mason

    So Carlson has a secret second home in Florida (just like Ann Coulter’s secret third home there)?
     
    Florida has no state income tax for individuals, which is a reason why many well-off individuals claim to be residents for 6 months plus 1 day. D. Trump is obviously well aware of this.

    This is part of the reason why professional golfers like Tiger Woods and Rory McIlroy, natives of California and Northern Ireland have their main residences in Florida, the other being that the early season tournaments take place in Florida or next-door Georgia.

    Florida has no state income tax for individuals, which is a reason why many well-off individuals claim to be residents for 6 months plus 1 day. D. Trump is obviously well aware of this.

    This is part of the reason why professional golfers like Tiger Woods and Rory McIlroy, natives of California and Northern Ireland have their main residences in Florida, the other being that the early season tournaments take place in Florida or next-door Georgia.

    Seems to me state income tax is only a concern for the merely rich, like $1 mil/year.

    These guys are mega-rich. What’s the point of that level of wealth if you can’t live where you want?

    • Replies: @Jonathan Mason

    These guys are mega-rich. What’s the point of that level of wealth if you can’t live where you want?
     
    They can have second homes in other places, but for tax purposes they live in Florida. Of course they have a lot of money, but they also have huge expenses like multiple homes, business managers, agents, caddys, domestic help, and so on so an addition 5 to 9% of state income tax is just another fairly sizeable expense.

    Anyway, not all are superstars and most PGA tour members are not superstars with endorsement income and are only as good as their last paycheck.

  73. @Ron Mexico
    The alternative: "Look, fat! You're a lying dog faced pony soldier. You're full of shit. Super Thursday. I'm running for the US Senate. Vote for the other Biden. Corn Pop was a bad dude. Kids like sitting on my lap. I let the kids rub my leg hairs. Play the record player, kids need to hear words." On and on and on. Oh, the one that had Jimmy Dorr play on a loop: "We hold these truths to be self-evident that all men and women are created by the, you know, you know, the thing."

    Now that we’re in the Time of Corona-chan, it is vital that sniffing Joe Biden is kept at least six feet away from any young, white girl. President Trump must issue such an order post-haste.

    • Agree: Ron Mexico
  74. @Anonymous
    Trump should dump the neo-con friendly fundgelical Pence for Tucker.
    Two great reasons for this:

    1) It'd make Carlson the heir-apparent in four years
    2) In the mean time Tucker could keep very close tabs on Trump and pressure him to fulfill all of his America 1st promises. The Tucker agenda rather than the Javanka agenda.

    Your point No.2 sounds like an alarm signal to Trump not to hire Carlson. Unless Trump would not have you strategic genius. But could that be? – I honestly dunno.

  75. @Dr. DoomNGloom
    Never let a good crisis go to waste?

    If now isn’t the time to get serious about border control and repatriate industries necessary for national security, update the power grid and other infrastructure. when is? Call it emergency stimulus. Give the investment money somewhere to go. Roll back the red tape. Get things done, think of the children.!

    Granted, We have a higher cost structure than China but we have a lot of people to employ and can start Omer with new technology. Send much of the work to México and Central America and we can build a more secure perimeter.

    Hear, hear!

  76. @Testing12
    China is the world's largest and most powerful totalitarian dictatorship. Why would any freedom loving people not feel threatened by a "rising China"?

    “why would any freedom-loving people not feel threatened by a rising China?”

    If you can show me a freedom-loving people anywhere in the West, I will give you a shiny silver Walking Liberty dollar coin with a half-naked Elsie Stevens on the verso.

    “The pure products of America go crazy…” — William C. Williams

  77. @Clyde

    Carlson’s problem is his incessant obsession with promotion of the anti-China propaganda meme…so loved by those who are threatened by a rising China.
     
    You must be shtting me. The pro-China liberal media vastly outnumber what Tucker is saying. And Tucker is right about China being a menace. The idiots in the Libby media make Russia-Vlad Putin the bogey man while ignoring China.

    Chang has been wrong. So what. You are also wrong.
    btw China makes 85% of our antibiotics. This is idiotic to be in such a dependent position, thanks to the last four Presidents. Last week some Chinese Goombah was making noises about cutting us off from antibiotics. These btches would love to but they are too cowardly...for now.

    And Tucker is right about China being a menace.

    The US does much more against China, than China does against the US. This dumbass country sends it war ships all over the world…pressuring dozens of countries to let us run their country for them. The US is the most hegemonic country on this planet by orders of magnitude.
    Give an example of how China is a menace?

    The idiots in the Libby media make Russia-Vlad Putin the bogey man while ignoring China.

    It is obvious Russia doesn’t fear China.

    Last week some Chinese Goombah was making noises about cutting us off from antibiotics.

    How do you know that? It is probably US Propaganda.

    You are also wrong.

    Explain how?

    btw China makes 85% of our antibiotics. This is idiotic to be in such a dependent position, thanks to the last four Presidents.

    How is it China’s fault that this country is so stupid as to outsource critical products?
    The last four Presidents includes Trump…who has done nothing to remedy the situation.

    The Deep State has been in control of all US actions that increase their power and wealth for years

    It would do you good to think for yourself.

  78. @The Alarmist
    What Tucker should be telling Trump that crashing the world economy leaves him holding the bag, just as it did to Herbert Hoover. We have nothing to fear except Joe Biden appearing to be a compassionate, reasonable alternative to the man who crushed the US economy because a handful of people died.

    I’m glad you said this. It’s a lie, of course – the MSM, in conjunction with every grandstanding Democrat mayor and governor, have cratered the economy and doomed millions to unemployment – but I doubt there’ll be very many people with access to The Microphone saying as much. They’ll be repeating your post up there almost verbatim ….naturally, they can’t do it just yet , but rest assured they’re memorizing it now; trying to get the inflections just right, and timing that sudden “sob in the throat” for precisely the key moment. (Also, you might as well set your watches now for the triumphant re-emergence of Keith Olbermann, like a turd that assiduously taught itself to swim up the sewage pipe to bob in your toilet tank anew. As every soapbox parasite amidst the rubble of America knows, putrescence means opportunity; and he is planning accordingly.)

    We’re going to hear so much about who is or isn’t “smart” enough for the office that I expect the far larger truth – that high intelligence and chat-show glibness are not prerequisites for a superior President; in fact they are generally dangerous things – to be atomized immediately, and the only prerequisite for the office that means anything (a kneejerk devotion to the Constitution, and specifically the Bill of Rights) to be briefly paid lip service before the heavy duty dismantling/demolition of the document takes place immediately after the election. The entirety of the Deep State, led of course by media with a tiny handful of outliers dissenting, will deny it is even happening until it is concluded. Back to business as usual, and not a moment too soon, eh?

    • Agree: danand
  79. @Testing12
    China is the world's largest and most powerful totalitarian dictatorship. Why would any freedom loving people not feel threatened by a "rising China"?

    China is the world’s largest and most powerful totalitarian dictatorship. Why would any freedom loving people not feel threatened by a “rising China”?

    Because China is a dictatorship doesn’t inherently make it a threat. How does China threaten the US?
    There is no country on this planet more threatening to world peace and freedom, than the US.
    The fact that you think people in America are free is proof you are an easy mark for US propaganda.

  80. @Tor597
    https://twitter.com/StandardOrder/status/1238227296026267648?s=20

    Is that you, Julian?

  81. @kikz
    corona virus fatigue maybe. as if he didn't have enough on his plate already. i hope he's getting some rest. he sounded a bit tired ystrdy in the address.

    Well, if Trump has covid19 and comes through ok then he has bragging rights.

    Oh, and how’s Sim?

  82. @Senor Moose
    Tucker was an early voice on the Coronavirus issue. By January 23, China had shut down a city the size of New York. On international media, you could see dramatic coverage emerging from China showing massive trucks driving through the streets spaying disinfectant, people being rounded up because they were supposedly sick, and hospitals crowded with what appeared to be dead bodies. Tucker started covering Coronavirus early on. Meanwhile, if you switched over to MSNBC, it was just endless ranting about Ukraine, Russia, and some thing that Lev Parnas said that Giuliani said Trump said. It really made the myopia of the American media clear.

    That said, I would have much more confidence in Tucker to deal with this issue. He understands that, in addition to the more immediate steps to slow the spread of the epidemic in the U.S., it has revealed a more fundamental problem in our economy. We can never be in a position where officials of a foreign government can threaten to cut off vital drug supplies if they don’t like what we say. We need a plan to repatriate all key industries and decouple them from China. We need to cut them off.

    This is a crisis Trump should not let go waste, borders and immigration are central to it. With Biden as his opponent, he has no choice but to hunker down on these issues. With Bernies he might have skated on with stock market and socialism talking points.

  83. @22pp22
    Tucker for president - seriously. He is the only person who seems to even be aware of the problems that face us, let alone have proposals for addressing them.

    Has there been a great president in the modern era? If Tucker ran and got elected my money would be on him ending up compromised in a variety of ways and rendered ineffectual.

    • Agree: JimDandy
  84. Tucker could be a future president. We have to crush the Limbaugh/Hannity axis in conservative media. That whole boomer/neocon sympathizer/GOP partisan tendency needs to go. Does anyone else notice that all Rush Limbaugh does is critique media for “gotcha” type gaffs by Democrats? Limbaugh has been the worst in making politics all about partisan point scoring and avoiding serious discussion of policy or ideas. Everything is about the 48 hour news cycle inside the beltway drama with Rush. I never understood how anyone could listen to it day after day.

  85. @Bill
    I agree that he is accomplished and that this is a reason to doubt the incompetence conclusion (though, to be honest, I believe he is incompetent at this point). How can we be sure that his accomplishments are not caused by psychopathy, superior talents for bullshitting and gladhanding, and luck?

    You are so salty that he makes the lefts politicians look like the bozo shits that they are.

    I mean Trump may be a bullshitter, but the likes of Warren and Harris are straight up cunts, Bernie the Bolshevik has a mob of gulagger’s in his wake and Joe Biden cant put his pants on straight.

  86. @The Germ Theory of Disease
    "all men and women are created by, you know, the thing."

    If all men and women were created by John Carpenter's The Thing, it would certainly make for more interesting times.

    But who knows, maybe we are? It's certainly true that all Presidents have been created by Cthulhu since 1860 at the very least.

    My daughter and I were joking about Biden perhaps being an alien right after he tried to quote Jefferson. Who knows? Didn’t Iron Maiden do a song, “The Call of Cthulhu”? Too lazy to look it up. Some metal band did it.

    • Replies: @Romanian
    It was Metallica - The Call of Ktulu
  87. @22pp22
    Tucker for president - seriously. He is the only person who seems to even be aware of the problems that face us, let alone have proposals for addressing them.

    Tucker is great as an advocate. Probably less effective as a political leader. Why? Because political leaders are required to seek coalitions and some measure of unity among disparate populations, meaning compromise. I don’t really want to see his message watered down through that process.

    • Replies: @ATBOTL
    The kind of politics that is coming is not going to be about compromise or even necessarily about winning elections, but about taking power by any means necessary.
  88. @Anonymous (n)
    Trump may be the most infantile individual to climb to such heights of power since the time of hereditary rule. It truly does seem like he has absolutely zero curiosity or drive to understand, and relies solely on what he is fed by whoever managed to speak to him last. I supported him in 2016 because of the platform he ran on and despite my distaste for his blowhard buffoonery. Now that it has become apparent the platform was a bait and switch, all that remains is the buffoonery. It is hard to feel confident in this moment of real danger with this clown at the helm.

    Hope for a Biden victory, then we’ll have a president who’s already in his second childhood and will become progressively infantile untill he’s removed under the 25th amendment -to say nothing of his politics and of those who’ll advise him.

  89. @Anonymous (n)
    Trump may be the most infantile individual to climb to such heights of power since the time of hereditary rule. It truly does seem like he has absolutely zero curiosity or drive to understand, and relies solely on what he is fed by whoever managed to speak to him last. I supported him in 2016 because of the platform he ran on and despite my distaste for his blowhard buffoonery. Now that it has become apparent the platform was a bait and switch, all that remains is the buffoonery. It is hard to feel confident in this moment of real danger with this clown at the helm.

    I try to focus on the positive, like what is happening on the border with asylum crackdown and Remain in Mexico (which is a very big deal). Also, it might be little-known but USCIS is,as of around late 2017, placing all (ok 95%) of denied applicants for permanent residence and certain other immigration benefits into removal proceedings. From 2008-2017, only “serious” criminals were referred for proceedings. Everybody else was simply ignored.

  90. @carsondyal
    Yes, Trump is the Petulant Potentate. With a circus act.

    A circus act perhaps but Trump 10,000 times over the lunatic hate whitey clown car that was the entire Democratic party field of presidential candidates. Hating Trump is easy but unless you are an “accelerationist” there is no other option.

  91. SMK says: • Website
    @22pp22
    Tucker for president - seriously. He is the only person who seems to even be aware of the problems that face us, let alone have proposals for addressing them.

    If only he told the rruth about race and crime and the effects of turning the U.S. into a nonwhite-majority country. Generally, I much prefer Tucker to Hannity but I hope the latter is right in predicting that the virus will be under control in 4-6 weeks and we can “return to normal” -which is bad enough.

    • Replies: @22pp22
    He is as unwoke as you can be and stay employed
  92. Anonymous[286] • Disclaimer says:

    I would expect a Trump hater, infected with COVID-19 to cough on his hands and try to infect Trump. They have a non-trivial chance of success. I wonder how Soros fares.

  93. Anonymous[337] • Disclaimer says:

    Isnt it more of a sit in closet ? Your not exactly walking around in there.

  94. Tucker Carlson / Michael Tracey 2024.

    The only problem is it may be too late by then.

  95. @Curle
    “It truly does seem like he has absolutely zero curiosity or drive to understand”

    Not sure that’s the way to describe a man who virtually re-invented luxury real estate branding, mastered the art of self-promotion and created a long running popular TV show.

    created a long running popular TV show

    That would be Marc Burnett.

    The other two things on your list are not indicia of competence: they’re indicia of a bullshit-artistry and a willingness to defraud customers, contracters and financiers – exploiting widespread, open-mouthed, slack-jawed American gullibility.

  96. @Realist

    Reinforcements for Big Brain Ron incoming. Ron gots his ass whipped in the comments the last two days- except a lot more one named posters spouting pro-Red propaganda. It would be hilarious if one of the poor sops picks Truth as his handle.
     
    Your reply has nothing to do with my comment.

    What he’s saying is that your a Chines apologist and maybe a drone. I don’t think you’re a drone. But you do seem like an apologist.

    By the way, Gordon Chang brought this to John Batchelors attention on his Jan 6 show. So Gordon was more right than almost all the experts who said this would be a nothing burger.

    By the way, I agree with Tucker a lot – although having mike Dewine and that idiot doctor who says that there are 100k infected in Ohio when they have had no deaths was not his brightest moment.

    • Replies: @Realist

    What he’s saying is that your a Chines apologist and maybe a drone. I don’t think you’re a drone. But you do seem like an apologist.
     
    Are you his mommy? His comment was gibberish. I seem like an apologist to you because I don't get on the bandwagon and spout the US propaganda line.

    So Gordon was more right than almost all the experts who said this would be a nothing burger.
     
    Chang is a discredited China hater and has been for years...always predicting the end of China...always wrong.
  97. @Anonymous (n)
    Trump may be the most infantile individual to climb to such heights of power since the time of hereditary rule. It truly does seem like he has absolutely zero curiosity or drive to understand, and relies solely on what he is fed by whoever managed to speak to him last. I supported him in 2016 because of the platform he ran on and despite my distaste for his blowhard buffoonery. Now that it has become apparent the platform was a bait and switch, all that remains is the buffoonery. It is hard to feel confident in this moment of real danger with this clown at the helm.

    Trump is just a typical American president, as typical as could be, and typical of his citizens, who are exactly like him without the money. I like how they think themselves superior to him.

  98. @Mr. Anon

    Honest question. How many people here are confident in Trump’s ability to handle this situation?

    Do you guys think Trump is incompetent?
     
    Given that I think this "situation" is largely a media-riot, yes I am confident he can handle it.

    Do I think Trump is incompetent? Yes.

    But - never fear - Trump has got top-people working this, such as world-renowned super-genius Jared Kushner:

    https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/03/jared-kushner-now-on-trumps-coronavirus-team-report.html

    Granted, this is a hit-piece, but if the "inside-sources" are right, then it is embarrassing.

    Given that I think this “situation” is largely a media-riot, yes I am confident he can handle it.

    I have no idea whether the media is over exaggerating or whether this epidemic is the real deal, but consider this.

    China instituted a massive heavy-handed response to the outbreak there. To a lesser extent, so did South Korea. Italy is under national quarantine. Spain, Norway, and France have instituted sweeping restrictions. Iran is building mass graves for all the dead.

    Are we so sure that this Corona hype is “fake news”?

    I’m not saying that I know one way or the other, but it’s interesting that so many other countries (especially competent East Asian nations) responded with such strength.

    I wouldn’t dispute your assertion that the media hates Trump, but is this really “fake news”?

    • Replies: @Louis Renault
    How's that protest in Hong Kong going? Leaders still tweeting at least? Ditto the yellow vests in France? How many of those countries you mentioned love Trump?
  99. @MG
    Trump has already put in place his Coronavirus team. The real question then is - is the team competent? I lean towards yes, for now.

    The real question then is – is the team competent

    Watch this.

    • Replies: @Autochthon
    Katy Tur is such a nagging harridan and a slattern – a somewhat unusual combination, as doxies are often relatively easy going, with the priggish being the battle axes.

    Plus, you could open a can of tuna fish with her shnozz.

  100. @Senor Moose
    Tucker was an early voice on the Coronavirus issue. By January 23, China had shut down a city the size of New York. On international media, you could see dramatic coverage emerging from China showing massive trucks driving through the streets spaying disinfectant, people being rounded up because they were supposedly sick, and hospitals crowded with what appeared to be dead bodies. Tucker started covering Coronavirus early on. Meanwhile, if you switched over to MSNBC, it was just endless ranting about Ukraine, Russia, and some thing that Lev Parnas said that Giuliani said Trump said. It really made the myopia of the American media clear.

    That said, I would have much more confidence in Tucker to deal with this issue. He understands that, in addition to the more immediate steps to slow the spread of the epidemic in the U.S., it has revealed a more fundamental problem in our economy. We can never be in a position where officials of a foreign government can threaten to cut off vital drug supplies if they don’t like what we say. We need a plan to repatriate all key industries and decouple them from China. We need to cut them off.

    For unknown reasons, Mitt Romney’s ramblings get dumped into my facebook account. And yesterday he was whining about China controlling our drug supply . Yet it was bust out vampire capitalist scum like Romney who post NAFTA sent a good chunk of American manufacturing east in the 1990s, all in the name of “comparative advantage”. 2 behind the ear for him is too kind. A bit like an arsonist complaining about the all the smoke and firetruck sirens.As bad a president as Obama was , Romney and McCain probably would both have been far worse.

    • Replies: @Charles Erwin Wilson

    Yet it was bust out vampire capitalist scum like Romney who post NAFTA sent a good chunk of American manufacturing east in the 1990s
     
    Romney is a vampire. Stephenie Meyer’s Twilight has been sold as fiction. But it is an anecdote from reality, based on Romney's actual life revised to look like Carlisle Cullen's life. Okay, I made up some of that. But Romney really is a vampire.
  101. @JohnnyWalker123

    Given that I think this “situation” is largely a media-riot, yes I am confident he can handle it.

     

    I have no idea whether the media is over exaggerating or whether this epidemic is the real deal, but consider this.

    China instituted a massive heavy-handed response to the outbreak there. To a lesser extent, so did South Korea. Italy is under national quarantine. Spain, Norway, and France have instituted sweeping restrictions. Iran is building mass graves for all the dead.

    Are we so sure that this Corona hype is "fake news"?

    I'm not saying that I know one way or the other, but it's interesting that so many other countries (especially competent East Asian nations) responded with such strength.

    I wouldn't dispute your assertion that the media hates Trump, but is this really "fake news"?

    How’s that protest in Hong Kong going? Leaders still tweeting at least? Ditto the yellow vests in France? How many of those countries you mentioned love Trump?

  102. Love all these guys who aren’t worth even one billion dollars and have never defeated the two biggest political dynasties in the modern era saying Trump is incompetent.

  103. @Ron Mexico
    The alternative: "Look, fat! You're a lying dog faced pony soldier. You're full of shit. Super Thursday. I'm running for the US Senate. Vote for the other Biden. Corn Pop was a bad dude. Kids like sitting on my lap. I let the kids rub my leg hairs. Play the record player, kids need to hear words." On and on and on. Oh, the one that had Jimmy Dorr play on a loop: "We hold these truths to be self-evident that all men and women are created by the, you know, you know, the thing."

    Corn Pop was a bad dude.

    In all fairness, it looks like “Corn Pop” was real. An obituary from 2016 was found eulogizing a man from the same area. The man was nicknamed “Corn Pop” and was the age to have been the person in Biden’s story. They also found an article referring to a gang called The Romans around the same time:

    https://heavy.com/news/2019/09/joe-biden-corn-pop-william-morris/

  104. @JohnnyWalker123
    Honest question. How many people here are confident in Trump's ability to handle this situation?

    Do you guys think Trump is incompetent?

    Honest question. How many people here are confident in Trump’s ability to handle this situation?

    Trump has competent people to advise him, and if he follows their advice, stops lying about everything, and stops putting out garbage on Twitter, then I think the situation will be handled somewhat competently from the health point of view.

    From the commercial point of view, I don’t know. Was it the unanimous opinion of the White House advisory panel on coronavirus that all transatlantic flights should be shut down, or was it a kind of Supreme Court 5-4 split decision? Why the volte-face over the UK?

    Trumps greatest fear seems to have been the tanking of the stock market, and yet he has single-handedly contributed more than any one other person to this by repeatedly telling farcical lies that undermine confidence in his administration.

    What we don’t know at this point is whether the Trump adminstration’s “shut down everything” methodology is superior to the UK (and other countries’) “welcome the virus” approach. Only time will tell.

    But if Trump can put a rubber band round his wrist and snap it every time he feels a lie coming on, he may at least avoid making things worse.

  105. @The Alarmist
    What Tucker should be telling Trump that crashing the world economy leaves him holding the bag, just as it did to Herbert Hoover. We have nothing to fear except Joe Biden appearing to be a compassionate, reasonable alternative to the man who crushed the US economy because a handful of people died.

    a handful of people died.

    I think the question is not how many died as much as how did they die. 3K on 9/11 was a very big deal. 1K due to Katrina produced a lot of finger pointing but no long lasting sense of national catastrophe. 3K due to Hurricane Maria – how many have even heard of it? The problem of covid is the slow drip-drip sense of doom. A plane crash of 300 people will be in headline news for a day and mostly forgotten a few weeks later (all except the victims families). 300 seniors dying over a 30 day period induces a lot of social fear.

  106. @Cowboy Shaw
    This is what I do on the train to London every morning (until the recent WFH directive). Search youtube for today's Tucker before Youtube wipe it, check the isteve blog, then basically I'm better informed on America and the world than 99% of the population. I scarcely need any other news source.

    Way to do it. And use youtube’s “posted today” filter which means last 24 hours. Best of luck in UK with this corona virus. I couldn’t even buy two jars of roasted peanuts today. At 11AM all the serious shoppers were in the grocery store with shopping carts 20 deep in line to check out.

  107. @Deadite
    What he’s saying is that your a Chines apologist and maybe a drone. I don’t think you’re a drone. But you do seem like an apologist.

    By the way, Gordon Chang brought this to John Batchelors attention on his Jan 6 show. So Gordon was more right than almost all the experts who said this would be a nothing burger.

    By the way, I agree with Tucker a lot - although having mike Dewine and that idiot doctor who says that there are 100k infected in Ohio when they have had no deaths was not his brightest moment.

    What he’s saying is that your a Chines apologist and maybe a drone. I don’t think you’re a drone. But you do seem like an apologist.

    Are you his mommy? His comment was gibberish. I seem like an apologist to you because I don’t get on the bandwagon and spout the US propaganda line.

    So Gordon was more right than almost all the experts who said this would be a nothing burger.

    Chang is a discredited China hater and has been for years…always predicting the end of China…always wrong.

    • Replies: @Sam Haysom
    Lol more like learist. It’s only gibberish because my witty and accurate dissections of your silly red propaganda makes your screen so spittle encrusted that you cant read properly. lol look how mad you are- and you aren’t even getting paid like Ron.
    , @Deadite
    You ARE a Chinee apologist.

    I hear they pay well.
  108. @SMK
    If only he told the rruth about race and crime and the effects of turning the U.S. into a nonwhite-majority country. Generally, I much prefer Tucker to Hannity but I hope the latter is right in predicting that the virus will be under control in 4-6 weeks and we can "return to normal" -which is bad enough.

    He is as unwoke as you can be and stay employed

  109. @Anonymous
    What's secret about Coulter wintering in Miami? She seems to socialize exclusively with rich gays, though not the po-faced California Puritan type

    What’s secret about Coulter wintering in Miami?

    Her Twitter profile lists her as NY/LA, but she seems to be in Florida half the year, partying with Drudge.

  110. @Tor597
    https://twitter.com/StandardOrder/status/1238227296026267648?s=20

    The exposure was on the 8th and the mean time till symptoms is 5 days (and Trump is in his 70ss). So this “Trump has corona from the Brazil guy” is past its sell-by date. If he ever gets it, it will be from some other source.

  111. @Bugg
    For unknown reasons, Mitt Romney's ramblings get dumped into my facebook account. And yesterday he was whining about China controlling our drug supply . Yet it was bust out vampire capitalist scum like Romney who post NAFTA sent a good chunk of American manufacturing east in the 1990s, all in the name of "comparative advantage". 2 behind the ear for him is too kind. A bit like an arsonist complaining about the all the smoke and firetruck sirens.As bad a president as Obama was , Romney and McCain probably would both have been far worse.

    Yet it was bust out vampire capitalist scum like Romney who post NAFTA sent a good chunk of American manufacturing east in the 1990s

    Romney is a vampire. Stephenie Meyer’s Twilight has been sold as fiction. But it is an anecdote from reality, based on Romney’s actual life revised to look like Carlisle Cullen’s life. Okay, I made up some of that. But Romney really is a vampire.

  112. @Ron Mexico
    My daughter and I were joking about Biden perhaps being an alien right after he tried to quote Jefferson. Who knows? Didn't Iron Maiden do a song, "The Call of Cthulhu"? Too lazy to look it up. Some metal band did it.

    It was Metallica – The Call of Ktulu

    • Replies: @Ron Mexico
    Thanks. I assumed Maiden due to their use of history and literature.
  113. It is rather interesting that Mr. Tucker traveled to Mar a Lago to speak face to face with Mr. Trump, not to interview him, but to tell him to take corona virus seriously!

    Mr. Tucker is a TV journalist and commentator, whose job is to communicate with the masses via mass media, principally TV and video and he works for the Murdoch-owned tabloid TV propaganda network Fox News.

    That he was sent to speak to Trump face-to-face is a kind of admission of the terrible situation by which the POTUS is unwilling to listen to the government’s own experts, because he is a Murdoch puppet.

    It is a measure of how desperate policy makers have become that Murdoch was talked into sending Tucker to put on a personal performance for the president, as this was the only way to get and hold the ear of the president who gives a whole new meaning to elective deafness, to make him think that he was participating in a TV puppet show.

    The next stage will be for Fox News pundits to make personalized video presentations to be shown to the president that will not be publicly aired at all, just beamed directly into a video chip implanted in Trump’s brain.

    • Replies: @Ron Mexico
    So what you are saying is you don't like Trump. Well, vote for the other Biden.
  114. @The Alarmist
    What Tucker should be telling Trump that crashing the world economy leaves him holding the bag, just as it did to Herbert Hoover. We have nothing to fear except Joe Biden appearing to be a compassionate, reasonable alternative to the man who crushed the US economy because a handful of people died.

    I’m glad you said this. It’s a lie, of course – the MSM, in conjunction with every grandstanding Democrat mayor and governor, have cratered the economy and doomed millions to unemployment – but I doubt there’ll be very many people with access to The Microphone saying as much. They’ll be repeating your post up there almost verbatim ….naturally, they can’t do it just yet , but rest assured they’re memorizing it now; trying to get the inflections just right, and timing that sudden “sob in the throat” for precisely the key moment. (Also, you might as well set your watches now for the triumphant re-emergence of Keith Olbermann, like a turd that assiduously taught itself to swim up the sewage pipe to bob anew in your toilet tank. As every soapbox parasite amidst the rubble of America knows, putrescence means opportunity; and he is planning accordingly.)

    We’re going to hear so much about who is or isn’t “smart” enough for the office that I expect the far larger truth – that high intelligence and chat-show glibness are not prerequisites for a superior President; in fact they are generally dangerous things – to be atomized immediately, and the only prerequisite for the office that means anything (a kneejerk devotion to the Constitution, and specifically the Bill of Rights) to be briefly paid lip service before the heavy duty dismantling/demolition of the document takes place immediately after the election. The entirety of the Deep State, led of course by media with a tiny handful of outliers dissenting, will deny it is even happening until it is concluded. Back to business as usual, and not a moment too soon, eh?

  115. @J1234
    Tucker is great as an advocate. Probably less effective as a political leader. Why? Because political leaders are required to seek coalitions and some measure of unity among disparate populations, meaning compromise. I don't really want to see his message watered down through that process.

    The kind of politics that is coming is not going to be about compromise or even necessarily about winning elections, but about taking power by any means necessary.

    • Replies: @J1234

    The kind of politics that is coming is not going to be about compromise or even necessarily about winning elections, but about taking power by any means necessary.
     
    You could be right, but what you're talking about is outside the realm of politics.
  116. @Romanian
    It was Metallica - The Call of Ktulu

    Thanks. I assumed Maiden due to their use of history and literature.

  117. @Jonathan Mason
    It is rather interesting that Mr. Tucker traveled to Mar a Lago to speak face to face with Mr. Trump, not to interview him, but to tell him to take corona virus seriously!

    Mr. Tucker is a TV journalist and commentator, whose job is to communicate with the masses via mass media, principally TV and video and he works for the Murdoch-owned tabloid TV propaganda network Fox News.

    That he was sent to speak to Trump face-to-face is a kind of admission of the terrible situation by which the POTUS is unwilling to listen to the government's own experts, because he is a Murdoch puppet.

    It is a measure of how desperate policy makers have become that Murdoch was talked into sending Tucker to put on a personal performance for the president, as this was the only way to get and hold the ear of the president who gives a whole new meaning to elective deafness, to make him think that he was participating in a TV puppet show.

    The next stage will be for Fox News pundits to make personalized video presentations to be shown to the president that will not be publicly aired at all, just beamed directly into a video chip implanted in Trump's brain.

    So what you are saying is you don’t like Trump. Well, vote for the other Biden.

    • Replies: @Jonathan Mason

    So what you are saying is you don’t like Trump. Well, vote for the other Biden.
     
    I didn't say I didn't like Trump, but clearly he is not playing with a full deck at this stage of the game.

    But I don't like Biden either. Isn't there someone else you would recommend for me to vote for?
  118. For all of Tucker’s supposed influence Trump sure isn’t taking his advice on eliminating H1B and other work visas that harm American citizens or in adopting a more neutral stance on Iran.

    I also think Tucker has bought in to the hysteria and alarmism about the coronavirus. Normally he’s even keeled but he’s lost his marbles just like the vast majority of people.

  119. @ATBOTL
    The kind of politics that is coming is not going to be about compromise or even necessarily about winning elections, but about taking power by any means necessary.

    The kind of politics that is coming is not going to be about compromise or even necessarily about winning elections, but about taking power by any means necessary.

    You could be right, but what you’re talking about is outside the realm of politics.

  120. in the 70’s, an important Australian senator wasn’t interested in inflation. Advisors tried to brief him about it but with no effect.

    Then, one day, he walks into his favourite pie shop and orders a pie. Only to find that the price had gone up. He complains, and the proprietor explains “It’s inflation, Senator.”

    So the Senator discovered inflation and started making speeches and adopting policies.

    Somewhat similarly, Mr Trump is not interested, is perhaps sceptical, of ideas. But if he’s sold on the virus’ health risks, he’s likely to become effective. I hope Mr Tucker may have provided the necessary catalyst.

  121. @Faraday's Bobcat

    Florida has no state income tax for individuals, which is a reason why many well-off individuals claim to be residents for 6 months plus 1 day. D. Trump is obviously well aware of this.

    This is part of the reason why professional golfers like Tiger Woods and Rory McIlroy, natives of California and Northern Ireland have their main residences in Florida, the other being that the early season tournaments take place in Florida or next-door Georgia.
     
    Seems to me state income tax is only a concern for the merely rich, like $1 mil/year.

    These guys are mega-rich. What's the point of that level of wealth if you can't live where you want?

    These guys are mega-rich. What’s the point of that level of wealth if you can’t live where you want?

    They can have second homes in other places, but for tax purposes they live in Florida. Of course they have a lot of money, but they also have huge expenses like multiple homes, business managers, agents, caddys, domestic help, and so on so an addition 5 to 9% of state income tax is just another fairly sizeable expense.

    Anyway, not all are superstars and most PGA tour members are not superstars with endorsement income and are only as good as their last paycheck.

  122. @Ron Mexico
    So what you are saying is you don't like Trump. Well, vote for the other Biden.

    So what you are saying is you don’t like Trump. Well, vote for the other Biden.

    I didn’t say I didn’t like Trump, but clearly he is not playing with a full deck at this stage of the game.

    But I don’t like Biden either. Isn’t there someone else you would recommend for me to vote for?

    • Replies: @Ron Mexico
    "Isn’t there someone else you would recommend for me to vote for?" Joe Walsh, he of Funk 49, not the douche pol from Illinois.
  123. @Jonathan Mason

    So what you are saying is you don’t like Trump. Well, vote for the other Biden.
     
    I didn't say I didn't like Trump, but clearly he is not playing with a full deck at this stage of the game.

    But I don't like Biden either. Isn't there someone else you would recommend for me to vote for?

    “Isn’t there someone else you would recommend for me to vote for?” Joe Walsh, he of Funk 49, not the douche pol from Illinois.

  124. @Realist

    What he’s saying is that your a Chines apologist and maybe a drone. I don’t think you’re a drone. But you do seem like an apologist.
     
    Are you his mommy? His comment was gibberish. I seem like an apologist to you because I don't get on the bandwagon and spout the US propaganda line.

    So Gordon was more right than almost all the experts who said this would be a nothing burger.
     
    Chang is a discredited China hater and has been for years...always predicting the end of China...always wrong.

    Lol more like learist. It’s only gibberish because my witty and accurate dissections of your silly red propaganda makes your screen so spittle encrusted that you cant read properly. lol look how mad you are- and you aren’t even getting paid like Ron.

    • Replies: @Realist

    It’s only gibberish because my witty and accurate dissections of your silly red propaganda makes your screen so spittle encrusted that you cant read properly.
     
    No, it's gibberish because it's stupid.
  125. @Sam Haysom
    Lol more like learist. It’s only gibberish because my witty and accurate dissections of your silly red propaganda makes your screen so spittle encrusted that you cant read properly. lol look how mad you are- and you aren’t even getting paid like Ron.

    It’s only gibberish because my witty and accurate dissections of your silly red propaganda makes your screen so spittle encrusted that you cant read properly.

    No, it’s gibberish because it’s stupid.

  126. @Realist

    What he’s saying is that your a Chines apologist and maybe a drone. I don’t think you’re a drone. But you do seem like an apologist.
     
    Are you his mommy? His comment was gibberish. I seem like an apologist to you because I don't get on the bandwagon and spout the US propaganda line.

    So Gordon was more right than almost all the experts who said this would be a nothing burger.
     
    Chang is a discredited China hater and has been for years...always predicting the end of China...always wrong.

    You ARE a Chinee apologist.

    I hear they pay well.

    • Replies: @Realist
    You are a minion for US propaganda.
  127. @JohnnyWalker123

    The real question then is – is the team competent

     

    Watch this.

    https://twitter.com/RichardBSpencer/status/1238921166074466304

    Katy Tur is such a nagging harridan and a slattern – a somewhat unusual combination, as doxies are often relatively easy going, with the priggish being the battle axes.

    Plus, you could open a can of tuna fish with her shnozz.

  128. @Deadite
    You ARE a Chinee apologist.

    I hear they pay well.

    You are a minion for US propaganda.

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