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  1. Cops in Hispanic Cicero going after the looters. The elected officials in the Town are still mostly Italian.

    • Replies: @PiltdownMan
    @t

    That video made me wonder.

    Every time a policeman arrests a person, does that effectively put the policeman out of action, while he spends time taking the perp to detention and filling out paperwork so that appropriate charges can be filed? Is that the reason why cops arrest rioters only selectively, allowing many flagrantly disrespectful and out of control miscreants to run away scot-free?

    Also, have police done away entirely with any hand-held weaponry? I know truncheons were done away with, because they were leaving too many people paralyzed and so on, but what about thing like canes, which hurt like hell but don't break anything. I remember seeing a video of some random third world cops enforcing crowd control with thin switch like sticks.

    I know nothing about police work and riot control. How does all that work?

    Replies: @Change that Matters, @Joe Stalin, @Sam Haysom

    , @Harry Baldwin
    @t

    Now that's a jogger!

    , @Reg Cæsar
    @t


    Cops in Hispanic Cicero going after the looters. The elected officials in the Town are still mostly Italian.

     

    And caponisti?
  2. I think it’s interesting, in the Chinese sense, that Sailer has all these convenient ironies right to hand. Irony after irony. Anytime he needs one, pop, up pops another irony out of his hat. You’d think they were being fed to him or something.

    • Troll: Anonymous (n)
    • Replies: @Alfa158
    @obwandiyag

    No you’d think that our decaying society is popping them up one after the other, and then you’d be right.
    Information is out there, he’s just letting it in. Or if you prefer a baseball analogy, American society keeps lobbing these dying ducks right over the middle of the plate and he keeps smashing them out of the ballpark.

    Replies: @Forbes

    , @Change that Matters
    @obwandiyag

    Every morning after I rake the leaves they're all over the lawn again.

    Coincidence? I think not.

    , @Hypnotoad666
    @obwandiyag


    Sailer has all these convenient ironies right to hand. Irony after irony. Anytime he needs one, pop, up pops another irony
     
    https://youtu.be/Jne9t8sHpUc

    Replies: @Dieter Kief

  3. Didn’t know Trump was going to give a speech. News to me.

    The Oval Office talk to the camera style speech is not Trump’s forte.

    And America does not need a group hug type of speech. If Trump is going to do any good it would be by exposing the Democrat/”progressive” BLM mau-mauing as being grounded in the intellectual fraud–that the cops are out hunting down blacks–that it is.

    That involves citing five or six key statistics–including non-PC ones about black crime and killing. And a very hard take-no-prisoners pointing the finger at Democrats for the fraud.

    Likewise calling out Antifa as the Democrat/prog street fighting terrorist arm. And linking it specifically to Democrat/prog totalitarianism. The purpose of Antifa is basically to harass and intimidate anyone who is remotely conservative and tries to speak or resist.

    Bottom line any speech Trump gives that will be salient for him and us is basically a j’accuse kind of deal. Drawing a line in the sand, not bringing us together.

    • Replies: @Dave Pinsen
    @AnotherDad

    He already gave the speech.

  4. Perfect. Then the courage to walk in the open over to the church. He’ll be reelected.

    • Agree: Alice
    • LOL: Anonymous (n)
    • Replies: @Polynikes
    @B36

    He should’ve flayed a looter to drive home the point, but I suppose Bible was a nice enough touch. For now.

  5. Anonymous[186] • Disclaimer says:

    I think Antifa kids should remember to wear their safety glasses tonight.

    https://nypost.com/2020/06/01/protester-loses-eye-after-being-struck-by-police-tear-gas-canister/

    • Agree: Redman
    • Replies: @Lagertha
    @Anonymous

    Most Antifa are not kids. It is an international anarchist group that thrives on violence and stands for nihilism. Most of them are washed-up 30+ year olds. They have now, taken over the looting - it is all, very highly organized.

    Replies: @AnonAnon

  6. Will Wilkinson hates it when you tweet at him and point out the his hatred of police stems from issues he has with his father who was a police officer.

  7. Post a link to the speech, Steve. It doesn’t cost money.

    • Replies: @Hypnotoad666
    @IHTG

    https://youtu.be/KqSlpPpledw?t=244

    Replies: @frankie p, @Jus' Sayin'..., @BB753, @Almost Missouri

    , @Russ
    @IHTG

    For my coin, Tucker Carlson's monologue was the best speech of the night. Spent some time on the Left, but then went to work on VP Pence, Nikki Haley, that goofy O'Brien character on David Brinkley's show yesterday, various other GOPe types, and penultimately pounded the First Son In Law at some length before ultimately offering Trump some direction. Worth watching the replay tonight.

  8. I’m pessimistic. The major institutions–the media, Hollywood, academia, Amazon, the corporate world, Wall Street, the judges–are all on the side of ANTIFA/BLM/the undocumented shopping community. They’re going to do everything they can to undercut him.

    • Replies: @anon
    @JohnnyD

    Agree. At this point the populace is so saturated with the black victim/white devil narrative that speeches and arguments can't reach them.
    Germans were saturated with propaganda once. It took a defeat in war and de-Nazification to change their minds.

    , @Mike_from_SGV
    @JohnnyD

    You are right Johnny. This is why Trump will fail unless 'call out the military' includes all of the above as targets. Drones would work nicely on fixed targets. We are in a literal war, and they are functioning as enemy combatants, so either Trump needs to get on with it, or resign and let Pelosi lead us peacefully into a queer police state.

    Replies: @JohnnyD

    , @Jack D
    @JohnnyD


    They’re going to do everything they can to undercut him.
     
    They don't even pretend to be neutral anymore. Over the last few days I've come across NPR and CNN while channel/station flipping and each time the have gone on and on about how "Trump is lying". In the past (ESPECIALLY for Dem presidents and DOUBLE ESPECIALLY for Obama they would never dream to report the President's words and then immediately negate them but now they are absolutely, shamelessly partisan. For NPR this is especially troubling because they are doing this with taxpayer $.

    Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard, @JohnnyD

    , @S. Anonyia
    @JohnnyD

    Same. At this point, I’m pretty sure we are witnessing an attempted coup organized by some elements of alphabet agencies. What convinced me was seeing some rioting in SLC of all places. I mean, there aren’t THAT many California transplants there yet.

    Everyone knows Mormons are disproportionately both law-abiding, and spooks. Spooks were there egging on the kids. Just like they are egging on the crowds in DC.

    Honestly fearful of a Maidan type situation soon.

    I think the goal is to get Trump/the military/the national guard to retaliate enough that they can start the process of delegitimizing him.

    Replies: @JohnnyD

    , @Hypnotoad666
    @JohnnyD


    I’m pessimistic. The major institutions–the media, Hollywood, academia, Amazon, the corporate world, Wall Street, the judges–are all on the side of ANTIFA/BLM/the undocumented shopping community. They’re going to do everything they can to undercut him.
     
    It is truly depressing actually.

    I swear the only bright spot is Tucker. Tonight he was showing the explicit violence by blacks and antifa; naming the names of Republican cucks who are pandering to the MSM race narrative (including The Heritage Foundation, Mike Pence, Jared Kushner and Nikki Hailey); and calling out the lying Dem. race hustlers ("The rioters are the Democrats' voters").

    We know Trump watches Tucker, so I hope he's paying attention.

    I love this guy. Tucker 2024!

    https://youtu.be/3n5_D59lSjc

    Replies: @Anonymous

  9. If Trump is going to do any good it would be by exposing the Democrat/”progressive” BLM mau-mauing as being grounded in the intellectual fraud–that the cops are out hunting down blacks–that it is.

    As if.

  10. As with the rest of President Trump’s several unfulfilled promises, I’ll believe his declared deployment of federal troops and law enforcement to quell the insurrection only when I’ll have seen it.

    • Agree: Anonymous (n), Bubba
  11. My dad wants the army in the streets so he loved it and he thinks the cops (and Army) should be shooting looters and Antifa.

    The thing that i try to caution is that the blue governors are still going to be in charge.

    Sure maybe they’ll crack heads for a few days now and save some shoe stores, but look at what happens with corona lockdown.

    They already went beyond any precedent and closed a bunch of stuff and practically imprisoned people in their houses.

    What’s to prevent Newsom and Cuomo from using the National Guard to enforce that?
    or hate speech laws?

    oh, you posted on unz? swat team’s on its way to take you to a reeducation center. Oh too bad you resisted and your house and did were set on fire in the process.

    Not that I’d want to go to Red reeducation camps either. Freedom and Liberty people.

    • Agree: vinny, Joe Magarac, botazefa
    • Disagree: Redman
    • Replies: @Dave Pinsen
    @vhrm


    What’s to prevent Newsom and Cuomo from using the National Guard to enforce that?
    or hate speech laws?
     
    Well, for one thing, the National Guardsmen have day jobs, so they can’t be mobilized indefinitely. For another, their day jobs are often in state and municipal law enforcement and other essential services. And many police departments have a policy where their cops collect their civilian pay while activated. So it’s kind of a self-limiting thing.

    Makes you see the wisdom in the Founders’ aversion to a standing army.

    Replies: @Hibernian

    , @Redman
    @vhrm

    NYC cops are ready to rumble tonight. I’ve seen them close up.

    Most voted for Trump, or at least sympathize with him and us.

    NY did very little to enforce the lockdown. I can tell you from experience. There just weren’t many patriots here willing to disobey.

    , @Polynikes
    @vhrm

    What’s the point of even having a government if they can’t establish law and order and protect innocent people?

    It’s the most basic function of government. It is completely the opposite of what the governors did with the corona panic lockdowns.

  12. I don’t think it helps he should have left mayors and governors handle it now he’s in a catch22 he either stop and the MSM puts on an endless display of “excessive” force or he doesn’t stop and looks weak now he owns whatever happens.

    • Replies: @Hypnotoad666
    @t


    I don’t think it helps he should have left mayors and governors handle it now he’s in a catch22 he either stop and the MSM puts on an endless display of “excessive” force or he doesn’t stop and looks weak now he owns whatever happens.
     
    I don't think so. The third option is a show of military shock and awe that intimidates the rioters from even trying anything further. Think Blackhawk helicopters buzzing the city, armored vehicles, and soldiers with live ammunition and an authorization to use it. It's all about overwhelming deterrence.

    That's where the cuck mayors went wrong in the first place.

    Replies: @theMann, @Russ, @Sean

  13. Holy moly. Trump’s tweets are getting out of control. 😐

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Jenner Ickham Errican

    Antifa can forge tweets, too? They must have an in at Twitter.

    , @The Alarmist
    @Jenner Ickham Errican

    I didn't do a screengrab, but Howard Cosell retweeted with the comment, "Wow, look at those monkeys run!"

  14. Hilarious how boomers who got us into this mess with 70 years of indolence and self-satisfaction really think sending in the marines to blow away protestors is a good idea. Under your watch every single Fortune 500 company and media organization went hard left. That frank rizzo booga booga shit won’t work. Thank God post-menopausal childless women like Ann Coulter and cosmo jews like Mickey Kaus were ignored.

    • Replies: @Chris Mallory
    @Sam Haysom


    Hilarious how boomers who got us into this mess with 70 years of
     
    The oldest Boomer is 75. What the hell were they doing at the age of 5 to get us into any kind of mess? You are an idiot.
  15. The last time I paid attention to or cared about anything Trump tweeted or said in a speech was in mid-2017. It’s long been obvious that the bozo’s words carry all the weight of those of any random internet blowhard the vast majority of the time, and only in rare instances do his pronouncements represent the official authority and decisions of President Kushner and The Hawaii Judge. As with everything related to Trump, I’ll believe it when I see it, and I probably won’t see it.

    • Replies: @Drew
    @Anonymous (n)

    Since I can't use the agree button, let me just say I whole-heartededlt agree. He's just another all-talk, no-action politician, the exact sort he excoriated on the campaign trail.

    Replies: @Antiwar7

  16. Off topic sirens blaring a caravan of police cars in my neighborhood. Checked on the internet. There’s a crowd attacking the federal building a few blocks away.

    Good. The feds have been anti White and pro black and deviant weirdos since school desegregation. Hope they do some damage. Let the black loving White feds be the punching bag of their beloved blacks for once.

    It’s a good thing the colleges closed in March otherwise the affirmative action and White liberal students of UCLA would have trashed this entire neighborhood.

    • Replies: @Joe Stalin
    @Alden

    Don't forget kids that the free flightradar24 app on your cell phone enables you to track cop & news helicopters in combat operations over your neighborhood.

  17. @Jenner Ickham Errican
    Holy moly. Trump’s tweets are getting out of control. :|

    https://twitter.com/SIMPforjesus/status/1266233411405922304

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @The Alarmist

    Antifa can forge tweets, too? They must have an in at Twitter.

  18. George Floyd is the tip of the iceberg. That’s why people are mad. It’s not over him. It’s over constant police brutality, sometimes ending with murder.

    • Replies: @Lurker
    @obwandiyag

    Then it's high time blacks left the hellhole of the US and back to the safety of Africa.

    , @frankie p
    @obwandiyag

    People are mad and people should be mad about police brutality and murder. The problem is that your people think it's only brutality and murder of blacks, when evidence shows that it's not the case. Next, they take ONE CASE of police brutality and murder against a black, in which in my opinion the police officer(s) should be punished, and turn it into the old "institutional racism" game, go on a riotous looting and damaging spree, and then ask for US$14 trillion in slave reparations. Do you not see how this is causing more damage and dysfunctionality while not addressing the original problem? Let's look at it again, as expressed by you:

    "George Floyd is the tip of the iceberg. That’s why people are mad. It’s not over him. It’s over constant police brutality, sometimes ending with murder."

    I can agree with that statement, and I am mad and have been mad for a long time about the situation with police brutality and murder. It's the predicate that I describe above that is questionable and non-constructive. Peaceful protest in response to brutality? Certainly. Those peaceful protesters should be policing their own protests with absolutely zero tolerance for violence and looting. That 's how you get results.

    , @vhrm
    @obwandiyag


    George Floyd is the tip of the iceberg. That’s why people are mad. It’s not over him. It’s over constant police brutality, sometimes ending with murder.
     
    i wish it were.

    It's about some black people and their white enablers (and sometimes manipulators) demanding protection money in the form of welfare payments, affirmative action, government jobs etc.

    Replies: @obwandiyag

    , @Henry's Cat
    @obwandiyag

    On a highights reel, even Tim Tebow looks like Tom Brady.

    , @Anonymous
    @obwandiyag


    George Floyd is the tip of the iceberg. That’s why people are mad. It’s not over him. It’s over constant police brutality, sometimes ending with murder.
     
    Floyd died of a heart attack.
    , @Anonymous
    @obwandiyag

    I’m probably the only one on this thread who’s investigated the backgrounds of cops and actually examined their internal affairs files (with unfriendly IA sergeants monitoring me). There are a lot of bad, abusive cops out there and the system allows them to operate carte blanche. And that’s the case because they’re entirely protected by their police departments, police unions, and especially the judicial system (DA’s and judges). It makes zero difference if it’s a liberal or conservative municipality. In fact, liberal enclaves want and expect even more aggressive policing. I’ve had DA’s tell me privately that in some well-known towns (libtopias) the police in those towns operate under their own law.

    It takes a special, God-fearing kind of man or woman to not become corrupted by the job and its power and the ability to act with impunity. Add to that the frustration of having to deal with worst 2% of society and it’s not a good thing.

    Cops need to act aggressively against some bad people but they can never be abusive. I think a start in mitigating police abuse is to de-militarize both civilian police tactics and police recruits. Law enforcement at local, state, and federal levels recruits heavily from the ranks of military veterans and IMHO this is a recipe for problems. Citizens can never be viewed as an enemy no matter how bad the neighborhood or the suspect/criminal being arrested.

    , @Athletic and Whitesplosive
    @obwandiyag

    It's about the media conditioned black persecution complex that causes them to interpret every instance of white-on-black violence (incredibly scarce as it is) as some enduring genocide which just doesn't actually exist. The media convinces blacks that they and their ethnonarcisistic grievances are the moral center of the universe because their coverage is absurdly focused on them.

    You always talk as if you're against the ruling class taking advantage of blacks, and yet you support this crap that was transparently manufactured, encouraged, aggravated (by paid enforcers), endorsed and justified by virtually every part of the ruling elite (even sponsored by amazon and sony lmao). Do you ever get tired of always being wrong about everything? Nothing will come of this, totally directionless rioting doesn't damage the elites in the slightest.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    , @Anonymous
    @obwandiyag


    It’s not over (the dead thug who did time for armed home robbery in Texas). It’s over constant police brutality, sometimes ending with murder.

     

    Unfortunately, obwandiyag has a point.

    Minneapolis mayor Jacob Frey is the REAL, apex culprit in this senseless and brutal killing of a handcuffed individual. Why is Frey still in office?

    Jacob Frey has allowed the following policy, enacted in 2012, to remain current approved practice followed by Minneapolis PD officers:

    Only sworn employees who have received training from the MPD Training Unit are authorized to use neck restraints. The MPD authorizes two types of neck restraints: Conscious Neck Restraint and Unconscious Neck Restraint. (04/16/12)

    Conscious Neck Restraint: The subject is placed in a neck restraint with intent to control, and not to render the subject unconscious, by only applying light to moderate pressure. (04/16/12)

    Unconscious Neck Restraint: The subject is placed in a neck restraint with the intention of rendering the person unconscious by applying adequate pressure. (04/16/12)
     

    Replies: @William Badwhite

    , @ben tillman
    @obwandiyag


    George Floyd is the tip of the iceberg. That’s why people are mad. It’s not over him.
     
    Of course, not. It's people rioting because their source of information tells them they're supposed to be outraged, which is horseshit because it's based on a lie. It's NOT about police brutality (which is real); it's about a "racist" dimension to police killings (which is not).
    , @Morris Applebaum IV
    @obwandiyag

    An estimated 250,000 people die a year from medical errors. That's what people with half a brain need to worry about. The likelihood that a bad police officer will harm you is about the same as your winning the lottery.

    , @anon
    @obwandiyag

    Wakanda !

  19. They should still read The Oresteia in college.

    Wiki

    It is important that Athena did not just forgive Orestes and forbid the Furies from chasing him, she intended to put him to a trial and find a just answer to the question regarding his innocence. This is the first example of proper litigation in the trilogy and illuminates the change from emotional retaliation to civilized decisions regarding alleged crimes.[17] Instead of allowing the Furies to torture Orestes, she decided that she would have both the Furies and Orestes plead their case before she decided on the verdict. In addition, Athena set up the ground rules for how the verdict would be decided so that everything would be dealt with fairly. By Athena creating this blueprint the future of revenge-killings and the merciless hunting of the Furies would be eliminated from Greece. Once the trial concluded, Athena proclaimed the innocence of Orestes and he was set free from the Furies. The cycle of murder and revenge had come to an end while the foundation for future litigation had been laid.

    Was that a great civilization or what?

    • Replies: @SFG
    @scrivener3

    Good point. And a huge difference from our modern left, which complains and spikes the evidence every time impartial processes find something they don't like.

    Though I'd hate to be a young boy over there back then...

    Replies: @scrivener3

    , @Crouchback
    @scrivener3

    But The Oresteia doesn't end with the trial. Athena still has to propitiate the Furies, whose anger is not groundless (you shouldn't kill your mother, whatever clever arguments one can make for killing one's mother). The Furies promise vengeance, and Athena pacifies them by offering something much greater than a bribe but a kind of redress of their grievances that acknowledges that their visceral sense of justice (matricide is wrong) still has a place in the new order, and in fact that the new rational order, which can be manipulated by sophists (as was the case with the dicey arguments that Apollo makes in the trial), needs to be undergirded by that visceral sense so that justice is not just who has a more clever lawyer. I have no idea of how to think of this week's madness in light of the trilogy, but I wanted to point out that Aeschylus is up to something much more complicated simply supporting trial by jury.

  20. @AnotherDad
    Didn't know Trump was going to give a speech. News to me.

    The Oval Office talk to the camera style speech is not Trump's forte.

    And America does not need a group hug type of speech. If Trump is going to do any good it would be by exposing the Democrat/"progressive" BLM mau-mauing as being grounded in the intellectual fraud--that the cops are out hunting down blacks--that it is.

    That involves citing five or six key statistics--including non-PC ones about black crime and killing. And a very hard take-no-prisoners pointing the finger at Democrats for the fraud.

    Likewise calling out Antifa as the Democrat/prog street fighting terrorist arm. And linking it specifically to Democrat/prog totalitarianism. The purpose of Antifa is basically to harass and intimidate anyone who is remotely conservative and tries to speak or resist.

    Bottom line any speech Trump gives that will be salient for him and us is basically a j'accuse kind of deal. Drawing a line in the sand, not bringing us together.

    Replies: @Dave Pinsen

    He already gave the speech.

    • LOL: Polynikes
  21. The endless marching against something as general as “racism” is useless. Let’s get specific.

    Police need to have a health “Miranda” warning that they give to suspects.

    “You are in violation of the law. We will now restrain you in handcuffs and place you in this police vehicle. Do you have any health conditions that need to be considered?”

    Depending on the answer, they could call EMS. If you think it’s ridiculous, or too much trouble, consider the bother of watching your city burn to the ground.

    This is a specific problem, and needs a specific solution.

    • Replies: @PiltdownMan
    @Anon7


    The endless marching against something as general as “racism” is useless.
     
    Railing against abstractions is the most striking aspect of protest in our times. The construction of such abstractions and calls to "fight" against them have also been a central strategy of "left thought" going back all the way to Karl Marx. There used to be a time when people would protest specifics, such as a cut in pay or an eviction, or bad food in a mining camp.

    It is easy to see, in this latest instance, how quickly the protests went from the specific complaint, a slight delay in the arrest of the lead cop, to the abstract-racism, oppression, the system-and thence into rioting and looting.

    Replies: @Anon7, @TomSchmidt

    , @Jack Armstrong
    @Anon7

    Dr. Baden ruled out health problems. George Floyd was healthy.

    Replies: @Coemgen

    , @Alice
    @Anon7

    This isn't why Mpls is burning. It is burning for the obvious reason that the mayor of Mpls didn't put out cops to arrest anyone AT ALL the first night of rioting nor the next day of looting, nor the next night of arsons. They literally said "give them space as long as they aren't harming people." It was an intentional decision to allow them to destroy the towns, and because whats reqarded gets repeated, it grew. Then BLM and Antifa got more of their peeps in and then more riot tourists came and then more thugs came and then all the people out of prison came.

    But let me add: the previous mayor and police chief both got bounced over Justine Damond's death, and these were the new versions, same incompetence--hopey changy biy mayor and diversity police chief, being led by Antifa-supporter Keith Ellison, Ex Nation if Islam member as AG. Nothing ever changes when Dems run things.

    Replies: @vhrm, @Anon7

    , @Alice
    @Anon7

    https://twitter.com/javimorillo/status/1267471912390754306?s=20

    Just ignore the editorial comment, read the letter about the conditions the police worked under. The mayors of the twin cities and governor wanted riots. it serves their political purposes. Oh I forgot, also Gov Walz' daughter gave the rioters the information via twitter that no arrests would be made, and Dem congresswoman for Mpls Ilhan Omar's daughter collected rioting gear and MN AG Keith Ellison's son publicly supported Antifa.

    , @botazefa
    @Anon7


    This is a specific problem, and needs a specific solution
     
    .

    We should require police have a master's degree in any SJW-adjacent 'discipline' and pay each cop$150k/year.
  22. @vhrm
    My dad wants the army in the streets so he loved it and he thinks the cops (and Army) should be shooting looters and Antifa.

    The thing that i try to caution is that the blue governors are still going to be in charge.

    Sure maybe they'll crack heads for a few days now and save some shoe stores, but look at what happens with corona lockdown.

    They already went beyond any precedent and closed a bunch of stuff and practically imprisoned people in their houses.

    What's to prevent Newsom and Cuomo from using the National Guard to enforce that?
    or hate speech laws?

    oh, you posted on unz? swat team's on its way to take you to a reeducation center. Oh too bad you resisted and your house and did were set on fire in the process.

    Not that I'd want to go to Red reeducation camps either. Freedom and Liberty people.

    Replies: @Dave Pinsen, @Redman, @Polynikes

    What’s to prevent Newsom and Cuomo from using the National Guard to enforce that?
    or hate speech laws?

    Well, for one thing, the National Guardsmen have day jobs, so they can’t be mobilized indefinitely. For another, their day jobs are often in state and municipal law enforcement and other essential services. And many police departments have a policy where their cops collect their civilian pay while activated. So it’s kind of a self-limiting thing.

    Makes you see the wisdom in the Founders’ aversion to a standing army.

    • Replies: @Hibernian
    @Dave Pinsen

    When I was in the NG, (I left about 10 years ago.) a lot of NG soldiers were students and/or marginally employed. They could use the money, especially single mothers. The cops you're talking about tended to be Officers or Senior NCOs, but a lot of leadership personnel were full time NG. I think if the Governors want to use the NG to trample civil liberties they can, at least to a certain extent, and the self limitation you're talking about won't be all that strong.

    Replies: @Louis Renault

  23. @JohnnyD
    I'm pessimistic. The major institutions--the media, Hollywood, academia, Amazon, the corporate world, Wall Street, the judges--are all on the side of ANTIFA/BLM/the undocumented shopping community. They're going to do everything they can to undercut him.

    Replies: @anon, @Mike_from_SGV, @Jack D, @S. Anonyia, @Hypnotoad666

    Agree. At this point the populace is so saturated with the black victim/white devil narrative that speeches and arguments can’t reach them.
    Germans were saturated with propaganda once. It took a defeat in war and de-Nazification to change their minds.

    • Agree: Coemgen
  24. Just some more big talk, with little or no action.

    Just like his promises on immigration and ending the endless middle eastern wars. Bullshit.

    We spend a trillion dollars a year on defense and intelligence and yet we can’t solve the mystery of Anti-Fa’s, planning, financing, and organizing these riots.

    Anti-fa should have been broken up after the clusterf*ck at Berkeley in 2017. Instead we got prison reform.

    He’s a snake oil salesman, who knows what we want to hear, but never actually gets around to doing anything.

  25. I think you, Sailer, was right when you coined the expression “Late Obama Age Collapse”. You just named it after the wrong president, but we all make mistakes.

    We ought to see how the Floyd effect will influence United States homicide rates, provided there is still a United States in the coming years. There might even be.

  26. Not condoning Chauvin. Or many “bad lieutenant” style cops. And there are many.

    But CNN is reporting George Floyd has both Fentanyl and Meth in his system. Yikes. Sounds like he was living on borrowed time.

    I’ve seen a lot of guys in NYC who I’m shocked are still breathing. With Fentanyl in play now, many folks are knocking pretty hard on heavens door.

  27. I thought it was great. I loved him threatening the thugs with the military. I hope he backs it up.

  28. Anonymous[413] • Disclaimer says:

    I don’t think there is anything wrong with what he said. In those states that haven’t dealt with the problem yet, Trump is right to stop the violence and property damage rather than make it a political issue. It has been about a week now of riots. Someone should be the adult here, and the governors have had their opportunity. Glad Trump called out Antifa.

    As far as justice is concerned, I do think justice should be served. I am not sure of the outcome of a fair review. If the police officers were taking a textbook approach, then the SOPs are wrong and need to be changed.

    It seems like this situation has been ginned up to be yet another way to try to get Trump out of office and it is having the opposite effect in my view.

    • Replies: @European-American
    @Anonymous

    Thanks.

    It took me so long to find the speech that I still haven't watched it.

    The actual speech starts at 10:30, here's a direct link:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WR6B1TKRDEY&t=10m30s

    Maybe I'll watch it later. But honestly, why bother? I do value unmediated information, but...

    I don't follow the news much. I've often relied on Steve and a few other people to watch the news for me, poor souls… but lately I haven't even followed Steve that much, sadly.

    Or not so sadly. It's pretty clear that following the “news” is bad for morale. Not following it or people’s reactions to it, I feel great!

    I know there's a virus, or a riot, … I know enough to safely walk out the door, I have some idea of who I’ll vote for, I know most news is bs, ... Am I missing anything?...

    I do like to get news that helps me professionally, or personally, or that inspires me, or makes me laugh.

    But most news isn’t that. It’s just noxious.

  29. Looks like a white vs. white physical battle brewing in Philadelphia’s famous Fishtown between old-timers and educated leftist gentrifiers.

    https://mobile.twitter.com/AESteele/status/1267603200988925956

  30. I need to listen to his speech. But this whole situation has radicalized me in a sense. Why do I continue to be shocked to see what I already supposedly know to be true? I’m not sure. The people in authority who I am seeing actually trying to put the emphasis on alleged white nationalist violence in these riots, something for which I’ve seen no evidence, is just leaving my dumbstruck. Also the fact that so many famous people are saying: antifa just means anti-fascist; what, are you a fascist? type things is just mind-blowing. Glad we can always count on something’s name to reflect it’s actual nature.

  31. @vhrm
    My dad wants the army in the streets so he loved it and he thinks the cops (and Army) should be shooting looters and Antifa.

    The thing that i try to caution is that the blue governors are still going to be in charge.

    Sure maybe they'll crack heads for a few days now and save some shoe stores, but look at what happens with corona lockdown.

    They already went beyond any precedent and closed a bunch of stuff and practically imprisoned people in their houses.

    What's to prevent Newsom and Cuomo from using the National Guard to enforce that?
    or hate speech laws?

    oh, you posted on unz? swat team's on its way to take you to a reeducation center. Oh too bad you resisted and your house and did were set on fire in the process.

    Not that I'd want to go to Red reeducation camps either. Freedom and Liberty people.

    Replies: @Dave Pinsen, @Redman, @Polynikes

    NYC cops are ready to rumble tonight. I’ve seen them close up.

    Most voted for Trump, or at least sympathize with him and us.

    NY did very little to enforce the lockdown. I can tell you from experience. There just weren’t many patriots here willing to disobey.

  32. @IHTG
    Post a link to the speech, Steve. It doesn't cost money.

    Replies: @Hypnotoad666, @Russ

    • Replies: @frankie p
    @Hypnotoad666

    Perhaps the most Presidential speech Trump has made since he was a candidate. That doesn't speak highly of him, that his most Presidential speeches took place when he was Candidate Trump.

    , @Jus' Sayin'...
    @Hypnotoad666

    He started off repeating the MSM lies and sounding like a rhetorically incompetent and verbally challenged version of the late, un-lamented Obama. At the one minute mark, I decided that I'll never again listen to this bozo, not that I could ever force myself to stomach more than a minute or two of his infantile egoism.

    It's time for true conservatives to dump this clown and move on. It's also past time to stock up on ammo and other SHTF emergency supplies.

    Replies: @Change that Matters, @Art Deco, @Henry's Cat, @Brian Reilly

    , @BB753
    @Hypnotoad666

    No mention of the danger of covid-19 spreading because looters don't respect social distancing and spend too much time out of their houses, though they do try to cover their faces. We should be soon seeing hospitals overwhelmed by covid-19 patients. What more proof do you need that the Wu-Flu scare was phony?

    BTW I see that trump no longer dyes his hair. I approve.
    Also, I predict these riots will get him reelected. It's as if Democrats didn't learn the lessons from 2016.

    , @Almost Missouri
    @Hypnotoad666

    The speech was competently written, consisting mainly of rhetorical filler. The gravamen was that 1) he "recommended" governors use the National Guard to restore order, and 2) if they don't restore order, then he will using the US military. He dotted his legal i's and crossed his legal t's by citing "defense of life and property" as the Insurrection Act or Posse Comitatus Act or whatever it is requires. He also said he is deploying military and Federal officers to protect Federal property (DC), although I had the impression that was already done by the DC Police as of 2AM this morning. (It took about an hour, once they got serious and launched tear gas.)

    He also called out Antifa specifically and repeatedly, which is good, and threatened to prosecute them to the "fullest extent of the law", which, as Anonymous (n) wrote, I'll believe it when I see it. Trump's not known for his follow through. The MSM and social media will of course go crazy about this and say the instigators were actually Russian Spetnatz or the Klan or whatever, but you can't fix every stupidity at once, so at least this gets a more realistic narrative out.

    You could hear the sound of gunfire in the background as he gave this speech at the White House rose garden(?). Can't recall that ever happening before.

    The most striking thing about the speech though, was its brevity and Trump's demeanor. It was very underpowered and "phoned in", as if he were short of breath or suffering an illness. Or had suffered a very great personal blow. This was the only time I've seen him like this.

    Replies: @vhrm, @Stephen Dodge, @Intelligent Dasein, @Mike_from_SGV, @Coemgen

  33. Steve, in Chicago there’s a massive and so far peaceful protest in Uptown, so far these things have been peaceful till the end when the Antifa type get involved.

  34. OT:

    From the, “now they’re just rubbing YTs noses in it,” files, we have numinous, fabulous homosexual negro R. Eric Thomas writing in Elle to hector YT about:

    It Does Not Matter If You Are Good
    On Omar Jimenez, George Floyd, Christian Cooper and the myth of being non-threatening.

    https://www.elle.com/culture/career-politics/a32712287/cnn-omar-jimenez-arrest-response/

    At some point you learn to speak clearly and slowly, to widen your eyes a bit, perhaps to smile, in situations where the underlying danger of everyday existence races to the surface like an air bubble in murky water. Of course you do this with law enforcement, at a traffic stop or in a random encounter on the street, but you do this also in the most anodyne situations—with the train conductor when your ticket won’t scan, with the concierge at an apartment building, with the random white stranger who suddenly wants to know what you’re doing, where you’ve just come from, where you think you’re going. You learn to perform harmlessness, not as a way of selling yourself out—though it often feels like that—but as an attempt at heading off a conflict that seems to always be brewing. You learn—or, at least I, a black, cisgender man, learned—that there will be moments, random and unbidden, where to save your life you must convince a stranger that you are in some amorphous way good. And at the same time you learn that it probably will not make a difference.

    FFS.

  35. @obwandiyag
    George Floyd is the tip of the iceberg. That's why people are mad. It's not over him. It's over constant police brutality, sometimes ending with murder.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LA1UMGNgprQ

    Replies: @Lurker, @frankie p, @vhrm, @Henry's Cat, @Anonymous, @Anonymous, @Athletic and Whitesplosive, @Anonymous, @ben tillman, @Morris Applebaum IV, @anon

    Then it’s high time blacks left the hellhole of the US and back to the safety of Africa.

    • Agree: Bubba, jim jones
  36. Altai [AKA "Altai_2"] says:

    He should have live streamed it on YouTube and had a split screen with footage like this one running. Don’t let CNN control the other side of the screen.

    This video from West Philadelphia is incredible. A whole line of police cars being attacked and looted, about 1/5-1/10 as many police as rioters and they just stand there. They even start to push the cars down and ram them into other police cars, past the police!

    My favourite moment is at 1.00 when a guy just smoothly and calmly takes a police cap from out of the back and puts it on his head. He doesn’t even do a ‘Hey guys check out my new hat, take a picture!’ he just calmly proceeds on with the looting and destruction of the cars.

  37. @t
    I don't think it helps he should have left mayors and governors handle it now he's in a catch22 he either stop and the MSM puts on an endless display of "excessive" force or he doesn't stop and looks weak now he owns whatever happens.

    https://twitter.com/wsyx6/status/1267459763396317184

    Replies: @Hypnotoad666

    I don’t think it helps he should have left mayors and governors handle it now he’s in a catch22 he either stop and the MSM puts on an endless display of “excessive” force or he doesn’t stop and looks weak now he owns whatever happens.

    I don’t think so. The third option is a show of military shock and awe that intimidates the rioters from even trying anything further. Think Blackhawk helicopters buzzing the city, armored vehicles, and soldiers with live ammunition and an authorization to use it. It’s all about overwhelming deterrence.

    That’s where the cuck mayors went wrong in the first place.

    • Replies: @theMann
    @Hypnotoad666

    The problem with "an overwhelming show of force" is that it is wrong twice over: First, because it will just be a show; second, because every agitator from here to Beijing will be able to claim that the US Government is making war on its own people (would be technically true, btw).


    ISR drones, hunter\killer teams with night vision equipment and ATN or Night Owl equipped rifles, sabotage teams cutting water, sewer and electric lines, while destroying ISP routers and especially Cell Phone towers.......Silently in the dead of night, poke a cities eyes out, return it to the 19th century, ruthlessly hunt down and eliminate the Organizers, quickly, quietly, efficiently. No visible Police, no visible Military..


    Then have provocateurs dressed as rioters burn down some Governor's mansions and second residences, their families can take their chances just like ordinary people do from the arsonists......


    Turn it over to me and there would never be another riot in America for 100 years and the Media liars would have no one to blame.

    Replies: @BenKenobi

    , @Russ
    @Hypnotoad666


    The third option is a show of military shock and awe that intimidates the rioters from even trying anything further. Think Blackhawk helicopters buzzing the city, armored vehicles, and soldiers with live ammunition and an authorization to use it. It’s all about overwhelming deterrence.
     
    1st thought: Would not mind seeing that; would teach the troublemakers.

    2nd thought: Such power (and precedent) in the mitts of a President Stacy Abrams ...
    , @Sean
    @Hypnotoad666

    The originator of this crisis was Mayor Jacob Frey who as soon as the video of Floyd's death was public called the four cops murderers and said he was powerless to have them arrested. Along with the media he was sticking it to Trump for something happening in a liberal run city. Yet the supposedly powerless Frey was able to order the police to vacate their own station thus letting the demonstrators take over and burn it.

    That was the key moment of this whole thing. Trump could have nipping it in the bud by had sending in troops immediately the Minneapolis 3rd Precinct was burnt down to crush the riots in than city and prevent the example infecting the demonstrations in other cities and turning them into cover for riots with an unstoppable head of stream. Of course it would have been seen as Draconian although it would not have been all that violent.

    Difficult as that would have been then, just a few days ago, it is now going to be very difficult to put the genie back in the bottle without the demonstrators peaceful or not knowing they will be shot, or not given bail and then sentenced to years in the DC prison system where they will be mercilessly victimized by blacks. Frey and his may like minded friends in the media have cornered Trump.

  38. @obwandiyag
    George Floyd is the tip of the iceberg. That's why people are mad. It's not over him. It's over constant police brutality, sometimes ending with murder.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LA1UMGNgprQ

    Replies: @Lurker, @frankie p, @vhrm, @Henry's Cat, @Anonymous, @Anonymous, @Athletic and Whitesplosive, @Anonymous, @ben tillman, @Morris Applebaum IV, @anon

    People are mad and people should be mad about police brutality and murder. The problem is that your people think it’s only brutality and murder of blacks, when evidence shows that it’s not the case. Next, they take ONE CASE of police brutality and murder against a black, in which in my opinion the police officer(s) should be punished, and turn it into the old “institutional racism” game, go on a riotous looting and damaging spree, and then ask for US$14 trillion in slave reparations. Do you not see how this is causing more damage and dysfunctionality while not addressing the original problem? Let’s look at it again, as expressed by you:

    “George Floyd is the tip of the iceberg. That’s why people are mad. It’s not over him. It’s over constant police brutality, sometimes ending with murder.”

    I can agree with that statement, and I am mad and have been mad for a long time about the situation with police brutality and murder. It’s the predicate that I describe above that is questionable and non-constructive. Peaceful protest in response to brutality? Certainly. Those peaceful protesters should be policing their own protests with absolutely zero tolerance for violence and looting. That ‘s how you get results.

  39. @B36
    Perfect. Then the courage to walk in the open over to the church. He'll be reelected.

    Replies: @Polynikes

    He should’ve flayed a looter to drive home the point, but I suppose Bible was a nice enough touch. For now.

  40. @Alden
    Off topic sirens blaring a caravan of police cars in my neighborhood. Checked on the internet. There’s a crowd attacking the federal building a few blocks away.

    Good. The feds have been anti White and pro black and deviant weirdos since school desegregation. Hope they do some damage. Let the black loving White feds be the punching bag of their beloved blacks for once.

    It’s a good thing the colleges closed in March otherwise the affirmative action and White liberal students of UCLA would have trashed this entire neighborhood.

    Replies: @Joe Stalin

    Don’t forget kids that the free flightradar24 app on your cell phone enables you to track cop & news helicopters in combat operations over your neighborhood.

  41. Been listening to lots of music past few days. Television and social media are just too depressing. It was incredible watching the Governor of MN and the mayors of Minneapolis and St. Paul let those neighborhoods burn and did nothing to stop looting. And let’s not forget our wonderful AG up here, Keith “Antifa” Ellison. What has been particularly sickening are the bleatings of the self-loathing middle class whites groveling in penance for existing. I have deactivated my social media accounts with the exception of GAB and Reddit. Twitter was becoming ridiculous, Instagram likewise.

    I’m thinking the Dead Kennedy’s 1980 “Holiday in Cambodia” was unnervingly prescient. But on the plus side, recent events have confirmed the salience of my anti-social tendencies and misanthropic view of humanity in general.

  42. Tucker Carleson now going in on the passive weak RINOs who mouth BLM taking points and push appeasement. The Vice President, the heritage foundation president, Nikki Haley (called her dumb…lol) and Carly Fiorina made the list.

    It’s worth a watch and pertinent to this blog.

    (Edit to say he calls out Kushner the most).

  43. The speech: not bad. Need to seem if it is backed up by anything.

    I had already seen some Twitter responses, and many of the individuals tweeting at least affected to have no idea what the president was talking about. Safety? How can he be sending troops out to make us safe, when the only way to do that is obviously to disband the police?

    When did disbanding the police become such a widespread talking point? Women seem especially enthusiastic about that one.

    What world have I stumbled into?

  44. @vhrm
    My dad wants the army in the streets so he loved it and he thinks the cops (and Army) should be shooting looters and Antifa.

    The thing that i try to caution is that the blue governors are still going to be in charge.

    Sure maybe they'll crack heads for a few days now and save some shoe stores, but look at what happens with corona lockdown.

    They already went beyond any precedent and closed a bunch of stuff and practically imprisoned people in their houses.

    What's to prevent Newsom and Cuomo from using the National Guard to enforce that?
    or hate speech laws?

    oh, you posted on unz? swat team's on its way to take you to a reeducation center. Oh too bad you resisted and your house and did were set on fire in the process.

    Not that I'd want to go to Red reeducation camps either. Freedom and Liberty people.

    Replies: @Dave Pinsen, @Redman, @Polynikes

    What’s the point of even having a government if they can’t establish law and order and protect innocent people?

    It’s the most basic function of government. It is completely the opposite of what the governors did with the corona panic lockdowns.

  45. @obwandiyag
    George Floyd is the tip of the iceberg. That's why people are mad. It's not over him. It's over constant police brutality, sometimes ending with murder.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LA1UMGNgprQ

    Replies: @Lurker, @frankie p, @vhrm, @Henry's Cat, @Anonymous, @Anonymous, @Athletic and Whitesplosive, @Anonymous, @ben tillman, @Morris Applebaum IV, @anon

    George Floyd is the tip of the iceberg. That’s why people are mad. It’s not over him. It’s over constant police brutality, sometimes ending with murder.

    i wish it were.

    It’s about some black people and their white enablers (and sometimes manipulators) demanding protection money in the form of welfare payments, affirmative action, government jobs etc.

    • Replies: @obwandiyag
    @vhrm

    What? You think the rioters are rioting for more welfare?

    Sheesh are you a clueless troglodyte.

    Replies: @Anonymous (n), @anon, @UK, @Redman, @OsgoodDeLaPoopoo

  46. @Hypnotoad666
    @IHTG

    https://youtu.be/KqSlpPpledw?t=244

    Replies: @frankie p, @Jus' Sayin'..., @BB753, @Almost Missouri

    Perhaps the most Presidential speech Trump has made since he was a candidate. That doesn’t speak highly of him, that his most Presidential speeches took place when he was Candidate Trump.

  47. There are strikes all over the country. Even Amazon and Apple. You think anybody, Trump, you, anybody commenting on here, anybody anywhere, would so much as mention them.

    Why not? Because strikes are the alternative to ID politics.

    You are all correct that the media, the PTB, all our owners, love this.

    Because it isn’t about strikes.

    • Thanks: Abe
    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @obwandiyag


    Because it isn’t about strikes.
     
    What is a “strike”?
    , @Hibernian
    @obwandiyag

    Amazon can easily find replacement package handlers and drivers in this economy; sure they might have had a little bit of a challenge with the surge in e-commerce at the beginning of the Covid crisis.

    , @TomSchmidt
    @obwandiyag

    Got links?

  48. @vhrm
    @obwandiyag


    George Floyd is the tip of the iceberg. That’s why people are mad. It’s not over him. It’s over constant police brutality, sometimes ending with murder.
     
    i wish it were.

    It's about some black people and their white enablers (and sometimes manipulators) demanding protection money in the form of welfare payments, affirmative action, government jobs etc.

    Replies: @obwandiyag

    What? You think the rioters are rioting for more welfare?

    Sheesh are you a clueless troglodyte.

    • Replies: @Anonymous (n)
    @obwandiyag

    Steve why do you keep letting these moronic hoaxer vermin like this guy post here? They bring the level of discourse down and make reading the comments hard to stomach.

    Replies: @William Badwhite

    , @anon
    @obwandiyag

    They're rioting because they're envious racists brainwashed to think their failures are my community's fault. They commit massively disproportionate amounts of crime, endlessly provoking the police. Obviously, in some rare cases one of these cops goes too far. I'm not broken up about it. They bring in on themselves. You never hear this happening with Asians or Hispanics. If you're not happy here, hit the road. Africa awaits.

    , @UK
    @obwandiyag

    What is the aim of the rioters/protestors?

    Chauvin is in jail and I've yet to see a single coherent demand.

    Blacklivesmatter is asking for the abolishment of the police. This is so utterly idiotic that I can't believe they actually mean it. I guess they ask for it for the same reason as anybody asks for something impossible. As a pretense, but then what do they want? Simply to act up? It seems that way.

    , @Redman
    @obwandiyag

    You’re a bleeding moron. The media played this Floyd video over and over for a reason.

    The rioters are rioting for fun and excitement (some for just money). They’ve been inflamed by a dishonest media that couldn’t wait for the ratings and the chance to take down Trump, their other big ratings booster.

    , @OsgoodDeLaPoopoo
    @obwandiyag

    Dude,there's a lot of looting here in Chicago. The Latin Kings are stretched very thin. Isn't looting a form of welfare?

  49. @Anon7
    The endless marching against something as general as “racism” is useless. Let’s get specific.

    Police need to have a health “Miranda” warning that they give to suspects.

    “You are in violation of the law. We will now restrain you in handcuffs and place you in this police vehicle. Do you have any health conditions that need to be considered?”

    Depending on the answer, they could call EMS. If you think it’s ridiculous, or too much trouble, consider the bother of watching your city burn to the ground.

    This is a specific problem, and needs a specific solution.

    Replies: @PiltdownMan, @Jack Armstrong, @Alice, @Alice, @botazefa

    The endless marching against something as general as “racism” is useless.

    Railing against abstractions is the most striking aspect of protest in our times. The construction of such abstractions and calls to “fight” against them have also been a central strategy of “left thought” going back all the way to Karl Marx. There used to be a time when people would protest specifics, such as a cut in pay or an eviction, or bad food in a mining camp.

    It is easy to see, in this latest instance, how quickly the protests went from the specific complaint, a slight delay in the arrest of the lead cop, to the abstract-racism, oppression, the system-and thence into rioting and looting.

    • Agree: Redman, Ron Mexico, ic1000
    • Replies: @Anon7
    @PiltdownMan

    It’s striking to me that no one ever covers even the basics of the story. Who was George Lloyd? He was a violent felon who served time for a home invasion. At the time of his death, he was hypertensive and panicked; he probably was starting to pass out as soon as he was in hand cuffs.

    The media narrative doesn’t require details, though. Nether does BLM, antifa, big media or the Democrats.

    In fact, fewer details are better.

    , @TomSchmidt
    @PiltdownMan

    "The construction of such abstractions and calls to “fight” against them have also been a central strategy of “left thought” going back all the way to Karl Marx. "

    Further back. Roger Scruton, in Conservatism, talks about the difference between the American and French revolutions. One major difference: the FR declared "rights" to liberty, egalite fraternity without any specific method of securing those rights. In other words, it was a statement of philosophy ungrounded in the real world, and very soon led to the terror.

  50. @JohnnyD
    I'm pessimistic. The major institutions--the media, Hollywood, academia, Amazon, the corporate world, Wall Street, the judges--are all on the side of ANTIFA/BLM/the undocumented shopping community. They're going to do everything they can to undercut him.

    Replies: @anon, @Mike_from_SGV, @Jack D, @S. Anonyia, @Hypnotoad666

    You are right Johnny. This is why Trump will fail unless ‘call out the military’ includes all of the above as targets. Drones would work nicely on fixed targets. We are in a literal war, and they are functioning as enemy combatants, so either Trump needs to get on with it, or resign and let Pelosi lead us peacefully into a queer police state.

    • Replies: @JohnnyD
    @Mike_from_SGV

    Removing Trump from office is definitely the end game. I think the Democratic governors and mayors are purposefully doing nothing to stop the rioting and looting to hurt Trump. Unfortunately, Trump didn't do himself any favors by waiting a couple of days to address the nation.

    Replies: @Alice

  51. @t
    Cops in Hispanic Cicero going after the looters. The elected officials in the Town are still mostly Italian.

    https://twitter.com/NaderDIssa/status/1267578396126711811

    Replies: @PiltdownMan, @Harry Baldwin, @Reg Cæsar

    That video made me wonder.

    Every time a policeman arrests a person, does that effectively put the policeman out of action, while he spends time taking the perp to detention and filling out paperwork so that appropriate charges can be filed? Is that the reason why cops arrest rioters only selectively, allowing many flagrantly disrespectful and out of control miscreants to run away scot-free?

    Also, have police done away entirely with any hand-held weaponry? I know truncheons were done away with, because they were leaving too many people paralyzed and so on, but what about thing like canes, which hurt like hell but don’t break anything. I remember seeing a video of some random third world cops enforcing crowd control with thin switch like sticks.

    I know nothing about police work and riot control. How does all that work?

    • Replies: @Change that Matters
    @PiltdownMan


    I remember seeing a video of some random third world cops enforcing crowd control with thin switch like sticks.
     
    You're probably thinking of the 'lathi', which is widely used in India and made by soaking, drying and oiling bamboo. Police have been known to insert metal into the whacking end for maximum impact.

    For your amusement.
    , @Joe Stalin
    @PiltdownMan

    I've seen CPD cops wearing expandable batons on their soft body armor. Also, another one is the spring baton.

    Some amusing, informative videos on older impact weapons.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W5QqVUy_Pio

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eGC4-MVACPY

    , @Sam Haysom
    @PiltdownMan

    No in a riot police have plastic cuffs and paddy wagons.

  52. @scrivener3
    They should still read The Oresteia in college.

    Wiki

    It is important that Athena did not just forgive Orestes and forbid the Furies from chasing him, she intended to put him to a trial and find a just answer to the question regarding his innocence. This is the first example of proper litigation in the trilogy and illuminates the change from emotional retaliation to civilized decisions regarding alleged crimes.[17] Instead of allowing the Furies to torture Orestes, she decided that she would have both the Furies and Orestes plead their case before she decided on the verdict. In addition, Athena set up the ground rules for how the verdict would be decided so that everything would be dealt with fairly. By Athena creating this blueprint the future of revenge-killings and the merciless hunting of the Furies would be eliminated from Greece. Once the trial concluded, Athena proclaimed the innocence of Orestes and he was set free from the Furies. The cycle of murder and revenge had come to an end while the foundation for future litigation had been laid.

    Was that a great civilization or what?

    Replies: @SFG, @Crouchback

    Good point. And a huge difference from our modern left, which complains and spikes the evidence every time impartial processes find something they don’t like.

    Though I’d hate to be a young boy over there back then…

    • Replies: @scrivener3
    @SFG

    The play is genius. The Greeks clawed themselves up from retribution justice to judicial justice.

    Under retribution, if you kill me, someone from my family will kill one of yours. That brings a certain security in a lawless world. Sort of like the MAD defense of the USSR cold war.

    The big problem is if a killing occurs. Then the other family is obliged to kill in revenge to maintain future deterrence. Then the first family is obliged to kill again to avenge the second killing. Or a cycle of revenge and murder. Sort of like how MAD nuclear deterrence fails after the first rocket is launched.

    The Greeks clawed themselves up from emotional retribution with reason and didactic plays, we are sliding down.

  53. @obwandiyag
    I think it's interesting, in the Chinese sense, that Sailer has all these convenient ironies right to hand. Irony after irony. Anytime he needs one, pop, up pops another irony out of his hat. You'd think they were being fed to him or something.

    Replies: @Alfa158, @Change that Matters, @Hypnotoad666

    No you’d think that our decaying society is popping them up one after the other, and then you’d be right.
    Information is out there, he’s just letting it in. Or if you prefer a baseball analogy, American society keeps lobbing these dying ducks right over the middle of the plate and he keeps smashing them out of the ballpark.

    • Replies: @Forbes
    @Alfa158

    Like I call iSteve: the noticing guy. If you pay attention as Steve does, with curiosity, rather than with an agenda, the irony is pretty easy to see. For most people, that is hard to do because they're operating with preconceived notions about how the world should work and operate--as opposed to being open to seeing what is in front of you, how it actually works.

  54. @Hypnotoad666
    @IHTG

    https://youtu.be/KqSlpPpledw?t=244

    Replies: @frankie p, @Jus' Sayin'..., @BB753, @Almost Missouri

    He started off repeating the MSM lies and sounding like a rhetorically incompetent and verbally challenged version of the late, un-lamented Obama. At the one minute mark, I decided that I’ll never again listen to this bozo, not that I could ever force myself to stomach more than a minute or two of his infantile egoism.

    It’s time for true conservatives to dump this clown and move on. It’s also past time to stock up on ammo and other SHTF emergency supplies.

    • Replies: @Change that Matters
    @Jus' Sayin'...

    [Straightens bow tie]

    , @Art Deco
    @Jus' Sayin'...

    TruCons are poseurs, always and everywhere.

    Replies: @William Badwhite

    , @Henry's Cat
    @Jus' Sayin'...

    I reckon you'll be singing a different tune come November.

    , @Brian Reilly
    @Jus' Sayin'...

    Jus', What are you "conserving"? Time was that I was "conservative, in a Lockean sense. Now, I don't see anything much to conserve. A real conservative would be a sort of anti-tech old school "liberal" of libertarian bent but not Libertarian® demeanor, and I don't know anyone who pines for that.

    Replies: @obwandiyag

  55. @Hypnotoad666
    @t


    I don’t think it helps he should have left mayors and governors handle it now he’s in a catch22 he either stop and the MSM puts on an endless display of “excessive” force or he doesn’t stop and looks weak now he owns whatever happens.
     
    I don't think so. The third option is a show of military shock and awe that intimidates the rioters from even trying anything further. Think Blackhawk helicopters buzzing the city, armored vehicles, and soldiers with live ammunition and an authorization to use it. It's all about overwhelming deterrence.

    That's where the cuck mayors went wrong in the first place.

    Replies: @theMann, @Russ, @Sean

    The problem with “an overwhelming show of force” is that it is wrong twice over: First, because it will just be a show; second, because every agitator from here to Beijing will be able to claim that the US Government is making war on its own people (would be technically true, btw).

    ISR drones, hunter\killer teams with night vision equipment and ATN or Night Owl equipped rifles, sabotage teams cutting water, sewer and electric lines, while destroying ISP routers and especially Cell Phone towers…….Silently in the dead of night, poke a cities eyes out, return it to the 19th century, ruthlessly hunt down and eliminate the Organizers, quickly, quietly, efficiently. No visible Police, no visible Military..

    Then have provocateurs dressed as rioters burn down some Governor’s mansions and second residences, their families can take their chances just like ordinary people do from the arsonists……

    Turn it over to me and there would never be another riot in America for 100 years and the Media liars would have no one to blame.

    • Replies: @BenKenobi
    @theMann

    Damn, you’ve been on fire the past few days.

    You have a newsletter I can subscribe to?

  56. more Cicero

    So when Hispanics stop black looters the problem is “anti black racism”

    • Replies: @t
    @t

    https://twitter.com/marsella____/status/1267605918675582976

    https://twitter.com/MrJesusJMontero/status/1267597831222812676

    https://twitter.com/CiceroNoticias/status/1267620999043915777

    It's happened here before https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cicero_race_riot_of_1951

    Replies: @t

  57. My dad wants the army in the streets so he loved it and he thinks the cops (and Army) should be shooting looters and Antifa.

    Nobody will be shooting anybody, especially not the cops. At best, they will keep trying to defend a limited number of high-profile targets by forming human chains. There is no public support for the police, so why should they want to risk their lives and freedom defending the property and even lives of folks who hate them ? The army would not want to touch this mess with a 50-foot pole, I am sure the Pentagon brass already made that clear.

    If there was a direct armed confrontation between the protesters and police, I am not even sure the cops will stand up to the crowd. This is actually how a country falls to a coup. It looks like we are almost on the brink. This is a bit surprising, but I presume endless bashing of the elected president does that to a country. What helps is that the protesters have no unifying idea and no strong leadership (yet). I do wonder if Trump has a plan to flee Washington to a Republican stronghold and try to regroup there if sh.t really hits the fan. Is there even such a stronghold left with a leadership willing to support him to prevent a banana republic coup ?

    The cops are still doing their job protecting the protesters, though.
    https://www.mercurynews.com/2020/06/01/driver-seen-speeding-away-from-demonstration-with-protester-on-hood-in-pasadena-arrested/

  58. Haven’t seen it yet, but Don Lemon is unhappy, so I’m happy.

  59. Looks like Tucker got to him again

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @jimmyriddle

    "This video has been removed for violating Youtube's terms of service."

  60. According to this site there was police body cam recording of the whole incident. https://www.houstoncourant.com/houston-voices/2020/the-chauvin-floyd-affair

    If so things will get interesting.

  61. @t
    Cops in Hispanic Cicero going after the looters. The elected officials in the Town are still mostly Italian.

    https://twitter.com/NaderDIssa/status/1267578396126711811

    Replies: @PiltdownMan, @Harry Baldwin, @Reg Cæsar

    Now that’s a jogger!

  62. Russ says:
    @Hypnotoad666
    @t


    I don’t think it helps he should have left mayors and governors handle it now he’s in a catch22 he either stop and the MSM puts on an endless display of “excessive” force or he doesn’t stop and looks weak now he owns whatever happens.
     
    I don't think so. The third option is a show of military shock and awe that intimidates the rioters from even trying anything further. Think Blackhawk helicopters buzzing the city, armored vehicles, and soldiers with live ammunition and an authorization to use it. It's all about overwhelming deterrence.

    That's where the cuck mayors went wrong in the first place.

    Replies: @theMann, @Russ, @Sean

    The third option is a show of military shock and awe that intimidates the rioters from even trying anything further. Think Blackhawk helicopters buzzing the city, armored vehicles, and soldiers with live ammunition and an authorization to use it. It’s all about overwhelming deterrence.

    1st thought: Would not mind seeing that; would teach the troublemakers.

    2nd thought: Such power (and precedent) in the mitts of a President Stacy Abrams …

  63. I think I’m waiting for Rod Rosenstein being questioned by, and replying to under oath, the Senate Judiciary Committee this week.

    https://www.c-span.org/video/?472540-1/deputy-attorney-general-rosenstein-testifies-fbis-russia-investigation

    Yeah, I know. Coemgen ruins everything. Story of my life. Thank you Steve for giving me a voice.

    Aside: If the apple doesn’t fall far from the tree and Joe Biden’s son is Hunter Biden: what does that tell us?

  64. @t
    more Cicero

    https://twitter.com/ankrsingh/status/1267613741459390464

    https://twitter.com/LinzeRice/status/1267607421100457986

    https://twitter.com/LinzeRice/status/1267609129201303552

    So when Hispanics stop black looters the problem is "anti black racism"

    Replies: @t

    It’s happened here before https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cicero_race_riot_of_1951

    • Replies: @t
    @t

    The Indian liquor store doesn't care:

    https://twitter.com/JessicaVillag/status/1267602203478568960

    My guess is she one of the 3% that call themselves Latinx
    https://twitter.com/fernandah957/status/1267611621989498881

    If the media reports on this at all they'll pretend it's filled with racist whites like 1951.

    Replies: @PiltdownMan

  65. @Anon7
    The endless marching against something as general as “racism” is useless. Let’s get specific.

    Police need to have a health “Miranda” warning that they give to suspects.

    “You are in violation of the law. We will now restrain you in handcuffs and place you in this police vehicle. Do you have any health conditions that need to be considered?”

    Depending on the answer, they could call EMS. If you think it’s ridiculous, or too much trouble, consider the bother of watching your city burn to the ground.

    This is a specific problem, and needs a specific solution.

    Replies: @PiltdownMan, @Jack Armstrong, @Alice, @Alice, @botazefa

    Dr. Baden ruled out health problems. George Floyd was healthy.

    • Replies: @Coemgen
    @Jack Armstrong

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Excited_delirium

    Replies: @Anonymous

  66. Sean says:
    @Hypnotoad666
    @t


    I don’t think it helps he should have left mayors and governors handle it now he’s in a catch22 he either stop and the MSM puts on an endless display of “excessive” force or he doesn’t stop and looks weak now he owns whatever happens.
     
    I don't think so. The third option is a show of military shock and awe that intimidates the rioters from even trying anything further. Think Blackhawk helicopters buzzing the city, armored vehicles, and soldiers with live ammunition and an authorization to use it. It's all about overwhelming deterrence.

    That's where the cuck mayors went wrong in the first place.

    Replies: @theMann, @Russ, @Sean

    The originator of this crisis was Mayor Jacob Frey who as soon as the video of Floyd’s death was public called the four cops murderers and said he was powerless to have them arrested. Along with the media he was sticking it to Trump for something happening in a liberal run city. Yet the supposedly powerless Frey was able to order the police to vacate their own station thus letting the demonstrators take over and burn it.

    That was the key moment of this whole thing. Trump could have nipping it in the bud by had sending in troops immediately the Minneapolis 3rd Precinct was burnt down to crush the riots in than city and prevent the example infecting the demonstrations in other cities and turning them into cover for riots with an unstoppable head of stream. Of course it would have been seen as Draconian although it would not have been all that violent.

    Difficult as that would have been then, just a few days ago, it is now going to be very difficult to put the genie back in the bottle without the demonstrators peaceful or not knowing they will be shot, or not given bail and then sentenced to years in the DC prison system where they will be mercilessly victimized by blacks. Frey and his may like minded friends in the media have cornered Trump.

  67. @PiltdownMan
    @t

    That video made me wonder.

    Every time a policeman arrests a person, does that effectively put the policeman out of action, while he spends time taking the perp to detention and filling out paperwork so that appropriate charges can be filed? Is that the reason why cops arrest rioters only selectively, allowing many flagrantly disrespectful and out of control miscreants to run away scot-free?

    Also, have police done away entirely with any hand-held weaponry? I know truncheons were done away with, because they were leaving too many people paralyzed and so on, but what about thing like canes, which hurt like hell but don't break anything. I remember seeing a video of some random third world cops enforcing crowd control with thin switch like sticks.

    I know nothing about police work and riot control. How does all that work?

    Replies: @Change that Matters, @Joe Stalin, @Sam Haysom

    I remember seeing a video of some random third world cops enforcing crowd control with thin switch like sticks.

    You’re probably thinking of the ‘lathi’, which is widely used in India and made by soaking, drying and oiling bamboo. Police have been known to insert metal into the whacking end for maximum impact.

    For your amusement.

  68. Anonymous[250] • Disclaimer says:

    Trump has his hands full.

    There are 40 million unemployed people. A lot of ne’er-do-wells in that group. All receiving government checks with nothing better to do.

  69. @Jus' Sayin'...
    @Hypnotoad666

    He started off repeating the MSM lies and sounding like a rhetorically incompetent and verbally challenged version of the late, un-lamented Obama. At the one minute mark, I decided that I'll never again listen to this bozo, not that I could ever force myself to stomach more than a minute or two of his infantile egoism.

    It's time for true conservatives to dump this clown and move on. It's also past time to stock up on ammo and other SHTF emergency supplies.

    Replies: @Change that Matters, @Art Deco, @Henry's Cat, @Brian Reilly

    [Straightens bow tie]

  70. @PiltdownMan
    @t

    That video made me wonder.

    Every time a policeman arrests a person, does that effectively put the policeman out of action, while he spends time taking the perp to detention and filling out paperwork so that appropriate charges can be filed? Is that the reason why cops arrest rioters only selectively, allowing many flagrantly disrespectful and out of control miscreants to run away scot-free?

    Also, have police done away entirely with any hand-held weaponry? I know truncheons were done away with, because they were leaving too many people paralyzed and so on, but what about thing like canes, which hurt like hell but don't break anything. I remember seeing a video of some random third world cops enforcing crowd control with thin switch like sticks.

    I know nothing about police work and riot control. How does all that work?

    Replies: @Change that Matters, @Joe Stalin, @Sam Haysom

    I’ve seen CPD cops wearing expandable batons on their soft body armor. Also, another one is the spring baton.

    Some amusing, informative videos on older impact weapons.

  71. @Jus' Sayin'...
    @Hypnotoad666

    He started off repeating the MSM lies and sounding like a rhetorically incompetent and verbally challenged version of the late, un-lamented Obama. At the one minute mark, I decided that I'll never again listen to this bozo, not that I could ever force myself to stomach more than a minute or two of his infantile egoism.

    It's time for true conservatives to dump this clown and move on. It's also past time to stock up on ammo and other SHTF emergency supplies.

    Replies: @Change that Matters, @Art Deco, @Henry's Cat, @Brian Reilly

    TruCons are poseurs, always and everywhere.

    • Agree: Johann Ricke
    • Replies: @William Badwhite
    @Art Deco


    TruCons are poseurs, always and everywhere.

     

    No shit. If you're looking for a real badass, you're going to want to go with a librarian.
  72. @Hypnotoad666
    @IHTG

    https://youtu.be/KqSlpPpledw?t=244

    Replies: @frankie p, @Jus' Sayin'..., @BB753, @Almost Missouri

    No mention of the danger of covid-19 spreading because looters don’t respect social distancing and spend too much time out of their houses, though they do try to cover their faces. We should be soon seeing hospitals overwhelmed by covid-19 patients. What more proof do you need that the Wu-Flu scare was phony?

    BTW I see that trump no longer dyes his hair. I approve.
    Also, I predict these riots will get him reelected. It’s as if Democrats didn’t learn the lessons from 2016.

  73. @obwandiyag
    @vhrm

    What? You think the rioters are rioting for more welfare?

    Sheesh are you a clueless troglodyte.

    Replies: @Anonymous (n), @anon, @UK, @Redman, @OsgoodDeLaPoopoo

    Steve why do you keep letting these moronic hoaxer vermin like this guy post here? They bring the level of discourse down and make reading the comments hard to stomach.

    • Replies: @William Badwhite
    @Anonymous (n)

    I recommend you make heavy use of the "commenters to ignore" function. I have something like 15 names on mine, including this obanjowag doofus.

  74. @PiltdownMan
    @Anon7


    The endless marching against something as general as “racism” is useless.
     
    Railing against abstractions is the most striking aspect of protest in our times. The construction of such abstractions and calls to "fight" against them have also been a central strategy of "left thought" going back all the way to Karl Marx. There used to be a time when people would protest specifics, such as a cut in pay or an eviction, or bad food in a mining camp.

    It is easy to see, in this latest instance, how quickly the protests went from the specific complaint, a slight delay in the arrest of the lead cop, to the abstract-racism, oppression, the system-and thence into rioting and looting.

    Replies: @Anon7, @TomSchmidt

    It’s striking to me that no one ever covers even the basics of the story. Who was George Lloyd? He was a violent felon who served time for a home invasion. At the time of his death, he was hypertensive and panicked; he probably was starting to pass out as soon as he was in hand cuffs.

    The media narrative doesn’t require details, though. Nether does BLM, antifa, big media or the Democrats.

    In fact, fewer details are better.

  75. @Dave Pinsen
    @vhrm


    What’s to prevent Newsom and Cuomo from using the National Guard to enforce that?
    or hate speech laws?
     
    Well, for one thing, the National Guardsmen have day jobs, so they can’t be mobilized indefinitely. For another, their day jobs are often in state and municipal law enforcement and other essential services. And many police departments have a policy where their cops collect their civilian pay while activated. So it’s kind of a self-limiting thing.

    Makes you see the wisdom in the Founders’ aversion to a standing army.

    Replies: @Hibernian

    When I was in the NG, (I left about 10 years ago.) a lot of NG soldiers were students and/or marginally employed. They could use the money, especially single mothers. The cops you’re talking about tended to be Officers or Senior NCOs, but a lot of leadership personnel were full time NG. I think if the Governors want to use the NG to trample civil liberties they can, at least to a certain extent, and the self limitation you’re talking about won’t be all that strong.

    • Replies: @Louis Renault
    @Hibernian

    You mean governors declaring half their state's residents nonessential and forbidding them to leave home, not work, not go to church wasn't trampling civil liberties?

  76. @obwandiyag
    I think it's interesting, in the Chinese sense, that Sailer has all these convenient ironies right to hand. Irony after irony. Anytime he needs one, pop, up pops another irony out of his hat. You'd think they were being fed to him or something.

    Replies: @Alfa158, @Change that Matters, @Hypnotoad666

    Every morning after I rake the leaves they’re all over the lawn again.

    Coincidence? I think not.

  77. @SFG
    @scrivener3

    Good point. And a huge difference from our modern left, which complains and spikes the evidence every time impartial processes find something they don't like.

    Though I'd hate to be a young boy over there back then...

    Replies: @scrivener3

    The play is genius. The Greeks clawed themselves up from retribution justice to judicial justice.

    Under retribution, if you kill me, someone from my family will kill one of yours. That brings a certain security in a lawless world. Sort of like the MAD defense of the USSR cold war.

    The big problem is if a killing occurs. Then the other family is obliged to kill in revenge to maintain future deterrence. Then the first family is obliged to kill again to avenge the second killing. Or a cycle of revenge and murder. Sort of like how MAD nuclear deterrence fails after the first rocket is launched.

    The Greeks clawed themselves up from emotional retribution with reason and didactic plays, we are sliding down.

  78. OT:

    The White House going dark was not a good look, but I love how the (((media))) just had to use the fag-light version to make their comparison:

    • Replies: @Jim Don Bob
    @The Wild Geese Howard

    Night vision goggles work better in the dark, plus you are not illuminating yourself as a target.

  79. @obwandiyag
    George Floyd is the tip of the iceberg. That's why people are mad. It's not over him. It's over constant police brutality, sometimes ending with murder.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LA1UMGNgprQ

    Replies: @Lurker, @frankie p, @vhrm, @Henry's Cat, @Anonymous, @Anonymous, @Athletic and Whitesplosive, @Anonymous, @ben tillman, @Morris Applebaum IV, @anon

    On a highights reel, even Tim Tebow looks like Tom Brady.

  80. Anonymous[211] • Disclaimer says:
    @obwandiyag
    George Floyd is the tip of the iceberg. That's why people are mad. It's not over him. It's over constant police brutality, sometimes ending with murder.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LA1UMGNgprQ

    Replies: @Lurker, @frankie p, @vhrm, @Henry's Cat, @Anonymous, @Anonymous, @Athletic and Whitesplosive, @Anonymous, @ben tillman, @Morris Applebaum IV, @anon

    George Floyd is the tip of the iceberg. That’s why people are mad. It’s not over him. It’s over constant police brutality, sometimes ending with murder.

    Floyd died of a heart attack.

  81. @Jus' Sayin'...
    @Hypnotoad666

    He started off repeating the MSM lies and sounding like a rhetorically incompetent and verbally challenged version of the late, un-lamented Obama. At the one minute mark, I decided that I'll never again listen to this bozo, not that I could ever force myself to stomach more than a minute or two of his infantile egoism.

    It's time for true conservatives to dump this clown and move on. It's also past time to stock up on ammo and other SHTF emergency supplies.

    Replies: @Change that Matters, @Art Deco, @Henry's Cat, @Brian Reilly

    I reckon you’ll be singing a different tune come November.

  82. Anonymous[211] • Disclaimer says:
    @obwandiyag
    There are strikes all over the country. Even Amazon and Apple. You think anybody, Trump, you, anybody commenting on here, anybody anywhere, would so much as mention them.

    Why not? Because strikes are the alternative to ID politics.

    You are all correct that the media, the PTB, all our owners, love this.

    Because it isn't about strikes.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Hibernian, @TomSchmidt

    Because it isn’t about strikes.

    What is a “strike”?

  83. anon[588] • Disclaimer says:
    @obwandiyag
    @vhrm

    What? You think the rioters are rioting for more welfare?

    Sheesh are you a clueless troglodyte.

    Replies: @Anonymous (n), @anon, @UK, @Redman, @OsgoodDeLaPoopoo

    They’re rioting because they’re envious racists brainwashed to think their failures are my community’s fault. They commit massively disproportionate amounts of crime, endlessly provoking the police. Obviously, in some rare cases one of these cops goes too far. I’m not broken up about it. They bring in on themselves. You never hear this happening with Asians or Hispanics. If you’re not happy here, hit the road. Africa awaits.

  84. @obwandiyag
    There are strikes all over the country. Even Amazon and Apple. You think anybody, Trump, you, anybody commenting on here, anybody anywhere, would so much as mention them.

    Why not? Because strikes are the alternative to ID politics.

    You are all correct that the media, the PTB, all our owners, love this.

    Because it isn't about strikes.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Hibernian, @TomSchmidt

    Amazon can easily find replacement package handlers and drivers in this economy; sure they might have had a little bit of a challenge with the surge in e-commerce at the beginning of the Covid crisis.

  85. @Jus' Sayin'...
    @Hypnotoad666

    He started off repeating the MSM lies and sounding like a rhetorically incompetent and verbally challenged version of the late, un-lamented Obama. At the one minute mark, I decided that I'll never again listen to this bozo, not that I could ever force myself to stomach more than a minute or two of his infantile egoism.

    It's time for true conservatives to dump this clown and move on. It's also past time to stock up on ammo and other SHTF emergency supplies.

    Replies: @Change that Matters, @Art Deco, @Henry's Cat, @Brian Reilly

    Jus’, What are you “conserving”? Time was that I was “conservative, in a Lockean sense. Now, I don’t see anything much to conserve. A real conservative would be a sort of anti-tech old school “liberal” of libertarian bent but not Libertarian® demeanor, and I don’t know anyone who pines for that.

    • Replies: @obwandiyag
    @Brian Reilly

    I like how they "revere" the Founding Fathers and Original Intent and all that, but want to abolish Ben Franklin's Post Office. The dirty traitors.

  86. @t
    @t

    https://twitter.com/marsella____/status/1267605918675582976

    https://twitter.com/MrJesusJMontero/status/1267597831222812676

    https://twitter.com/CiceroNoticias/status/1267620999043915777

    It's happened here before https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cicero_race_riot_of_1951

    Replies: @t

    The Indian liquor store doesn’t care:

    My guess is she one of the 3% that call themselves Latinx

    If the media reports on this at all they’ll pretend it’s filled with racist whites like 1951.

    • Replies: @PiltdownMan
    @t


    The Indian liquor store doesn’t care:

    Sandip Patel, owner of El Patron Liquor in Cicero, stands at the register looking at the damage to his store. Patel said it was looted Monday afternoon. “We’re all safe,” he said. “This is replaceable, lives aren’t. America has to build again, so we have to build again.” pic.twitter.com/sci3JRYTNd

    — Jessica Villagomez (@JessicaVillag) June 1, 2020

     

    He has good insurance and was a tad creative on his inventory valuation. That's my cynical guess.
  87. Anonymous[352] • Disclaimer says:
    @obwandiyag
    George Floyd is the tip of the iceberg. That's why people are mad. It's not over him. It's over constant police brutality, sometimes ending with murder.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LA1UMGNgprQ

    Replies: @Lurker, @frankie p, @vhrm, @Henry's Cat, @Anonymous, @Anonymous, @Athletic and Whitesplosive, @Anonymous, @ben tillman, @Morris Applebaum IV, @anon

    I’m probably the only one on this thread who’s investigated the backgrounds of cops and actually examined their internal affairs files (with unfriendly IA sergeants monitoring me). There are a lot of bad, abusive cops out there and the system allows them to operate carte blanche. And that’s the case because they’re entirely protected by their police departments, police unions, and especially the judicial system (DA’s and judges). It makes zero difference if it’s a liberal or conservative municipality. In fact, liberal enclaves want and expect even more aggressive policing. I’ve had DA’s tell me privately that in some well-known towns (libtopias) the police in those towns operate under their own law.

    It takes a special, God-fearing kind of man or woman to not become corrupted by the job and its power and the ability to act with impunity. Add to that the frustration of having to deal with worst 2% of society and it’s not a good thing.

    Cops need to act aggressively against some bad people but they can never be abusive. I think a start in mitigating police abuse is to de-militarize both civilian police tactics and police recruits. Law enforcement at local, state, and federal levels recruits heavily from the ranks of military veterans and IMHO this is a recipe for problems. Citizens can never be viewed as an enemy no matter how bad the neighborhood or the suspect/criminal being arrested.

    • Thanks: hhsiii, ic1000
  88. @obwandiyag
    @vhrm

    What? You think the rioters are rioting for more welfare?

    Sheesh are you a clueless troglodyte.

    Replies: @Anonymous (n), @anon, @UK, @Redman, @OsgoodDeLaPoopoo

    What is the aim of the rioters/protestors?

    Chauvin is in jail and I’ve yet to see a single coherent demand.

    Blacklivesmatter is asking for the abolishment of the police. This is so utterly idiotic that I can’t believe they actually mean it. I guess they ask for it for the same reason as anybody asks for something impossible. As a pretense, but then what do they want? Simply to act up? It seems that way.

  89. @Hypnotoad666
    @IHTG

    https://youtu.be/KqSlpPpledw?t=244

    Replies: @frankie p, @Jus' Sayin'..., @BB753, @Almost Missouri

    The speech was competently written, consisting mainly of rhetorical filler. The gravamen was that 1) he “recommended” governors use the National Guard to restore order, and 2) if they don’t restore order, then he will using the US military. He dotted his legal i’s and crossed his legal t’s by citing “defense of life and property” as the Insurrection Act or Posse Comitatus Act or whatever it is requires. He also said he is deploying military and Federal officers to protect Federal property (DC), although I had the impression that was already done by the DC Police as of 2AM this morning. (It took about an hour, once they got serious and launched tear gas.)

    He also called out Antifa specifically and repeatedly, which is good, and threatened to prosecute them to the “fullest extent of the law”, which, as Anonymous (n) wrote, I’ll believe it when I see it. Trump’s not known for his follow through. The MSM and social media will of course go crazy about this and say the instigators were actually Russian Spetnatz or the Klan or whatever, but you can’t fix every stupidity at once, so at least this gets a more realistic narrative out.

    You could hear the sound of gunfire in the background as he gave this speech at the White House rose garden(?). Can’t recall that ever happening before.

    The most striking thing about the speech though, was its brevity and Trump’s demeanor. It was very underpowered and “phoned in”, as if he were short of breath or suffering an illness. Or had suffered a very great personal blow. This was the only time I’ve seen him like this.

    • Agree: vhrm
    • LOL: Coemgen
    • Replies: @vhrm
    @Almost Missouri

    Nice analysis, thanks.

    The "low energy" part is certainly not Trump-like, but to be it sounded sober and measured which ... is not bad from my POV, but i have no idea what that means for reelection.

    , @Stephen Dodge
    @Almost Missouri

    you never watched the Godfather movies, did you?

    , @Intelligent Dasein
    @Almost Missouri


    This was the only time I’ve seen him like this.
     
    Perhaps he just realized how deeply entrenched are the forces arrayed against him. He does not seem to have noticed it before.
    , @Mike_from_SGV
    @Almost Missouri

    This speech, and two dollars, is worth a cup of Starbucks (except oops, the Starbucks shop has been trashed and looted).

    , @Coemgen
    @Almost Missouri


    ... Trump’s not known for his follow through ...
     
    Are you really unaware that Donald Trump has more than a few major accomplishments under-his-belt?
  90. @obwandiyag
    @vhrm

    What? You think the rioters are rioting for more welfare?

    Sheesh are you a clueless troglodyte.

    Replies: @Anonymous (n), @anon, @UK, @Redman, @OsgoodDeLaPoopoo

    You’re a bleeding moron. The media played this Floyd video over and over for a reason.

    The rioters are rioting for fun and excitement (some for just money). They’ve been inflamed by a dishonest media that couldn’t wait for the ratings and the chance to take down Trump, their other big ratings booster.

  91. I think Antifa kids should remember to wear their safety glasses tonight.

    • Replies: @Lagertha
    @JimB

    They're not kids, by any means...and, I actually hope they get injured, badly and permanently - violent, nihilistic people deserve no sympathy. They wanna play war, so they must suffer the consequences. Once the unmasking of them starts with forced vaccinations and FRekon downloads, their violence can be destroyed. Retinal recon is already very good at spotting these people. The irony is, the people who will go after them harder than Trump, will be Democrats because they are ruining the relationship of Blacks and Democrats candidates.

  92. @JohnnyD
    I'm pessimistic. The major institutions--the media, Hollywood, academia, Amazon, the corporate world, Wall Street, the judges--are all on the side of ANTIFA/BLM/the undocumented shopping community. They're going to do everything they can to undercut him.

    Replies: @anon, @Mike_from_SGV, @Jack D, @S. Anonyia, @Hypnotoad666

    They’re going to do everything they can to undercut him.

    They don’t even pretend to be neutral anymore. Over the last few days I’ve come across NPR and CNN while channel/station flipping and each time the have gone on and on about how “Trump is lying”. In the past (ESPECIALLY for Dem presidents and DOUBLE ESPECIALLY for Obama they would never dream to report the President’s words and then immediately negate them but now they are absolutely, shamelessly partisan. For NPR this is especially troubling because they are doing this with taxpayer $.

    • Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard
    @Jack D


    They don’t even pretend to be neutral anymore.
     
    Which is why Trump should yank their broadcast licenses, send the Marines to take them off the air, and dare the shitlibs and goodwhites to do something about it.

    Replies: @Chris Mallory

    , @JohnnyD
    @Jack D

    Don Lemon was whining that Trump is militarizing our cities, as if the rampaging mobs weren't a serious threat to American citizens.

  93. @Jack D
    @JohnnyD


    They’re going to do everything they can to undercut him.
     
    They don't even pretend to be neutral anymore. Over the last few days I've come across NPR and CNN while channel/station flipping and each time the have gone on and on about how "Trump is lying". In the past (ESPECIALLY for Dem presidents and DOUBLE ESPECIALLY for Obama they would never dream to report the President's words and then immediately negate them but now they are absolutely, shamelessly partisan. For NPR this is especially troubling because they are doing this with taxpayer $.

    Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard, @JohnnyD

    They don’t even pretend to be neutral anymore.

    Which is why Trump should yank their broadcast licenses, send the Marines to take them off the air, and dare the shitlibs and goodwhites to do something about it.

    • Replies: @Chris Mallory
    @The Wild Geese Howard


    Which is why Trump should yank their broadcast licenses,
     
    Which shows you don't know much about broadcasting. Cable channels do not have any license at all. Networks that broadcast over the airwaves usually have local affiliates who own the license, not the parent broadcaster.
    CNN and FOX News are both cable channels.
    Using 2019 numbers, 14% of people get their TV broadcast over the air. 79% get TV from cable or satellite.
    So you yank broadcast licenses all you do is keep a small number of people from getting local news and weather.

    Are you going to have them shut down cable and the internet too?

    Replies: @Che Blutarsky

  94. @Almost Missouri
    @Hypnotoad666

    The speech was competently written, consisting mainly of rhetorical filler. The gravamen was that 1) he "recommended" governors use the National Guard to restore order, and 2) if they don't restore order, then he will using the US military. He dotted his legal i's and crossed his legal t's by citing "defense of life and property" as the Insurrection Act or Posse Comitatus Act or whatever it is requires. He also said he is deploying military and Federal officers to protect Federal property (DC), although I had the impression that was already done by the DC Police as of 2AM this morning. (It took about an hour, once they got serious and launched tear gas.)

    He also called out Antifa specifically and repeatedly, which is good, and threatened to prosecute them to the "fullest extent of the law", which, as Anonymous (n) wrote, I'll believe it when I see it. Trump's not known for his follow through. The MSM and social media will of course go crazy about this and say the instigators were actually Russian Spetnatz or the Klan or whatever, but you can't fix every stupidity at once, so at least this gets a more realistic narrative out.

    You could hear the sound of gunfire in the background as he gave this speech at the White House rose garden(?). Can't recall that ever happening before.

    The most striking thing about the speech though, was its brevity and Trump's demeanor. It was very underpowered and "phoned in", as if he were short of breath or suffering an illness. Or had suffered a very great personal blow. This was the only time I've seen him like this.

    Replies: @vhrm, @Stephen Dodge, @Intelligent Dasein, @Mike_from_SGV, @Coemgen

    Nice analysis, thanks.

    The “low energy” part is certainly not Trump-like, but to be it sounded sober and measured which … is not bad from my POV, but i have no idea what that means for reelection.

  95. @PiltdownMan
    @t

    That video made me wonder.

    Every time a policeman arrests a person, does that effectively put the policeman out of action, while he spends time taking the perp to detention and filling out paperwork so that appropriate charges can be filed? Is that the reason why cops arrest rioters only selectively, allowing many flagrantly disrespectful and out of control miscreants to run away scot-free?

    Also, have police done away entirely with any hand-held weaponry? I know truncheons were done away with, because they were leaving too many people paralyzed and so on, but what about thing like canes, which hurt like hell but don't break anything. I remember seeing a video of some random third world cops enforcing crowd control with thin switch like sticks.

    I know nothing about police work and riot control. How does all that work?

    Replies: @Change that Matters, @Joe Stalin, @Sam Haysom

    No in a riot police have plastic cuffs and paddy wagons.

  96. @JohnnyD
    I'm pessimistic. The major institutions--the media, Hollywood, academia, Amazon, the corporate world, Wall Street, the judges--are all on the side of ANTIFA/BLM/the undocumented shopping community. They're going to do everything they can to undercut him.

    Replies: @anon, @Mike_from_SGV, @Jack D, @S. Anonyia, @Hypnotoad666

    Same. At this point, I’m pretty sure we are witnessing an attempted coup organized by some elements of alphabet agencies. What convinced me was seeing some rioting in SLC of all places. I mean, there aren’t THAT many California transplants there yet.

    Everyone knows Mormons are disproportionately both law-abiding, and spooks. Spooks were there egging on the kids. Just like they are egging on the crowds in DC.

    Honestly fearful of a Maidan type situation soon.

    I think the goal is to get Trump/the military/the national guard to retaliate enough that they can start the process of delegitimizing him.

    • Replies: @JohnnyD
    @S. Anonyia

    I agree. I also think that many of these Democratic governors and mayors purposefully did nothing to stop the rioters and looters, who are really their street soldiers.

  97. Q: “Is that your bible?” Trump: “It’s A bible.”

    I haven’t laughed this hard in ages.

  98. @Almost Missouri
    @Hypnotoad666

    The speech was competently written, consisting mainly of rhetorical filler. The gravamen was that 1) he "recommended" governors use the National Guard to restore order, and 2) if they don't restore order, then he will using the US military. He dotted his legal i's and crossed his legal t's by citing "defense of life and property" as the Insurrection Act or Posse Comitatus Act or whatever it is requires. He also said he is deploying military and Federal officers to protect Federal property (DC), although I had the impression that was already done by the DC Police as of 2AM this morning. (It took about an hour, once they got serious and launched tear gas.)

    He also called out Antifa specifically and repeatedly, which is good, and threatened to prosecute them to the "fullest extent of the law", which, as Anonymous (n) wrote, I'll believe it when I see it. Trump's not known for his follow through. The MSM and social media will of course go crazy about this and say the instigators were actually Russian Spetnatz or the Klan or whatever, but you can't fix every stupidity at once, so at least this gets a more realistic narrative out.

    You could hear the sound of gunfire in the background as he gave this speech at the White House rose garden(?). Can't recall that ever happening before.

    The most striking thing about the speech though, was its brevity and Trump's demeanor. It was very underpowered and "phoned in", as if he were short of breath or suffering an illness. Or had suffered a very great personal blow. This was the only time I've seen him like this.

    Replies: @vhrm, @Stephen Dodge, @Intelligent Dasein, @Mike_from_SGV, @Coemgen

    you never watched the Godfather movies, did you?

  99. Russ says:
    @IHTG
    Post a link to the speech, Steve. It doesn't cost money.

    Replies: @Hypnotoad666, @Russ

    For my coin, Tucker Carlson’s monologue was the best speech of the night. Spent some time on the Left, but then went to work on VP Pence, Nikki Haley, that goofy O’Brien character on David Brinkley’s show yesterday, various other GOPe types, and penultimately pounded the First Son In Law at some length before ultimately offering Trump some direction. Worth watching the replay tonight.

    • Agree: AnonAnon
  100. Preferred Tucker’s speech:

    • Agree: JimB, AnotherDad, Yancey Ward
    • Replies: @Rapparee
    @Percy Gryce

    I hate TV news talking heads, and because of the format I can't even really watch Mr. Carlson's show for very long, but Tucker routinely speaks with the iron honesty of Solzhenitsyn.

    Replies: @Lagertha, @Percy Gryce

  101. @Anonymous (n)
    The last time I paid attention to or cared about anything Trump tweeted or said in a speech was in mid-2017. It's long been obvious that the bozo's words carry all the weight of those of any random internet blowhard the vast majority of the time, and only in rare instances do his pronouncements represent the official authority and decisions of President Kushner and The Hawaii Judge. As with everything related to Trump, I'll believe it when I see it, and I probably won't see it.

    Replies: @Drew

    Since I can’t use the agree button, let me just say I whole-heartededlt agree. He’s just another all-talk, no-action politician, the exact sort he excoriated on the campaign trail.

    • Replies: @Antiwar7
    @Drew

    It always seems they show a new president something like the Eye of Ra on the morning they get sworn in. They always seem a bit cowed right away. Remember Obama promising to close the prison at Guantanamo Bay on the first day he was in office? And yet he didn't get around to it in 8 years. That must have been embarrassing to him, galling even. But he didn't close it.

  102. Trump’s speech would have been GREAT — in 1968. He thinks he’s gonna do a Mayor Daley and kick the hippie scum in the ass.

    Problem is, those hippies, along with the gays, the blacks, the trannies and the feminists now control the universities, the corporations, the media, the military, the banks, and the internet. They’re now senators, governors, congressmen, judges and CEOs. And they’re on the side of the looters, the rioters, the arsonists, the blacks, and Antifa.

    They’re going to stand up to the army if Trump deploys them in the streets. Governors and senators will probably march with the rioters and dare the army to shoot them. Black and brown troops will mutiny and refuse to suppress the riots.

    Then, when Trump loses in the fall, the next Democrat administration will use this as a precedent to send the army after “racists” and “white nationalists.”

    I think we’re in deep shit, kids.

    • Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard
    @Dr. X


    Problem is, those hippies, along with the gays, the blacks, the trannies and the feminists now control the universities, the corporations, the media, the military, the banks, and the internet. They’re now senators, governors, congressmen, judges and CEOs. And they’re on the side of the looters, the rioters, the arsonists, the blacks, and Antifa.

    They’re going to stand up to the army if Trump deploys them in the streets. Governors and senators will probably march with the rioters and dare the army to shoot them. Black and brown troops will mutiny and refuse to suppress the riots.
     
    Fucking nailed it.

    As soon as the 82nd Airborne wastes the first teenage groid CNN will roll out his sobbing, shrieking big black mammy to screech about, "muh chilluns, muh babiez!!!!" 24/7/365 until a Dem is mail-frauded into the White House.
    , @JimB
    @Dr. X

    The Long March through the institutions leads right off a cliff.

    Replies: @Almost Missouri

    , @Redman
    @Dr. X

    Then why doesn’t he start shooting? It’s a fricken coup.

  103. @obwandiyag
    George Floyd is the tip of the iceberg. That's why people are mad. It's not over him. It's over constant police brutality, sometimes ending with murder.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LA1UMGNgprQ

    Replies: @Lurker, @frankie p, @vhrm, @Henry's Cat, @Anonymous, @Anonymous, @Athletic and Whitesplosive, @Anonymous, @ben tillman, @Morris Applebaum IV, @anon

    It’s about the media conditioned black persecution complex that causes them to interpret every instance of white-on-black violence (incredibly scarce as it is) as some enduring genocide which just doesn’t actually exist. The media convinces blacks that they and their ethnonarcisistic grievances are the moral center of the universe because their coverage is absurdly focused on them.

    You always talk as if you’re against the ruling class taking advantage of blacks, and yet you support this crap that was transparently manufactured, encouraged, aggravated (by paid enforcers), endorsed and justified by virtually every part of the ruling elite (even sponsored by amazon and sony lmao). Do you ever get tired of always being wrong about everything? Nothing will come of this, totally directionless rioting doesn’t damage the elites in the slightest.

    • Agree: vhrm, Almost Missouri
    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Athletic and Whitesplosive


    It’s about the media conditioned black persecution complex that causes them to interpret every instance of white-on-black violence (incredibly scarce as it is) as some enduring genocide which just doesn’t actually exist.
     
    As Steve pointed out once, the real genocide against blacks occurred in Mexico. By letting them intermarry with everyone else.
  104. Anonymous[186] • Disclaimer says:

    As I said in a prior post, Hispanics will confront black folks, and black folks run. That’s how they ethnically cleansed Compton, Long Beach, Inglewood, and evening South Central of longtime black residents. You’ll rarely hear it brought up by blacks, because the concept of a cohesive black community is too complicated for them to deal with, relegating them to the social role of parasites: Professional wards of the state.

    Hispanics have a major advantage over American blacks in that they have intact family units. You mess with one Hispanic, then you mess with his 4 brothers, his dad, and 10 cousins. Black family units are inherently disjointed at best. Blacks don’t give a fuck about what happens to their cousin. Blacks are out for their retarded individual interests. That’s why they still trying to loot, even when their “leaders” are calling for them to stop.

    Black lives matter? Try convincing a significant number blacks of that silly bromide. You can’t. Never have. Never will. “Black Culture” is most toxic… to blacks.

    And that is why they fail.

    • Agree: PaceLaw
  105. @obwandiyag
    @vhrm

    What? You think the rioters are rioting for more welfare?

    Sheesh are you a clueless troglodyte.

    Replies: @Anonymous (n), @anon, @UK, @Redman, @OsgoodDeLaPoopoo

    Dude,there’s a lot of looting here in Chicago. The Latin Kings are stretched very thin. Isn’t looting a form of welfare?

  106. @Sam Haysom
    Hilarious how boomers who got us into this mess with 70 years of indolence and self-satisfaction really think sending in the marines to blow away protestors is a good idea. Under your watch every single Fortune 500 company and media organization went hard left. That frank rizzo booga booga shit won’t work. Thank God post-menopausal childless women like Ann Coulter and cosmo jews like Mickey Kaus were ignored.

    Replies: @Chris Mallory

    Hilarious how boomers who got us into this mess with 70 years of

    The oldest Boomer is 75. What the hell were they doing at the age of 5 to get us into any kind of mess? You are an idiot.

    • LOL: William Badwhite
  107. @t
    Cops in Hispanic Cicero going after the looters. The elected officials in the Town are still mostly Italian.

    https://twitter.com/NaderDIssa/status/1267578396126711811

    Replies: @PiltdownMan, @Harry Baldwin, @Reg Cæsar

    Cops in Hispanic Cicero going after the looters. The elected officials in the Town are still mostly Italian.

    And caponisti?

  108. @Athletic and Whitesplosive
    @obwandiyag

    It's about the media conditioned black persecution complex that causes them to interpret every instance of white-on-black violence (incredibly scarce as it is) as some enduring genocide which just doesn't actually exist. The media convinces blacks that they and their ethnonarcisistic grievances are the moral center of the universe because their coverage is absurdly focused on them.

    You always talk as if you're against the ruling class taking advantage of blacks, and yet you support this crap that was transparently manufactured, encouraged, aggravated (by paid enforcers), endorsed and justified by virtually every part of the ruling elite (even sponsored by amazon and sony lmao). Do you ever get tired of always being wrong about everything? Nothing will come of this, totally directionless rioting doesn't damage the elites in the slightest.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    It’s about the media conditioned black persecution complex that causes them to interpret every instance of white-on-black violence (incredibly scarce as it is) as some enduring genocide which just doesn’t actually exist.

    As Steve pointed out once, the real genocide against blacks occurred in Mexico. By letting them intermarry with everyone else.

  109. @Dr. X
    Trump's speech would have been GREAT -- in 1968. He thinks he's gonna do a Mayor Daley and kick the hippie scum in the ass.

    Problem is, those hippies, along with the gays, the blacks, the trannies and the feminists now control the universities, the corporations, the media, the military, the banks, and the internet. They're now senators, governors, congressmen, judges and CEOs. And they're on the side of the looters, the rioters, the arsonists, the blacks, and Antifa.

    They're going to stand up to the army if Trump deploys them in the streets. Governors and senators will probably march with the rioters and dare the army to shoot them. Black and brown troops will mutiny and refuse to suppress the riots.

    Then, when Trump loses in the fall, the next Democrat administration will use this as a precedent to send the army after "racists" and "white nationalists."

    I think we're in deep shit, kids.

    Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard, @JimB, @Redman

    Problem is, those hippies, along with the gays, the blacks, the trannies and the feminists now control the universities, the corporations, the media, the military, the banks, and the internet. They’re now senators, governors, congressmen, judges and CEOs. And they’re on the side of the looters, the rioters, the arsonists, the blacks, and Antifa.

    They’re going to stand up to the army if Trump deploys them in the streets. Governors and senators will probably march with the rioters and dare the army to shoot them. Black and brown troops will mutiny and refuse to suppress the riots.

    Fucking nailed it.

    As soon as the 82nd Airborne wastes the first teenage groid CNN will roll out his sobbing, shrieking big black mammy to screech about, “muh chilluns, muh babiez!!!!” 24/7/365 until a Dem is mail-frauded into the White House.

  110. If he throws his retarded son in law to the curb this might still be a country in ten years.

  111. @Dr. X
    Trump's speech would have been GREAT -- in 1968. He thinks he's gonna do a Mayor Daley and kick the hippie scum in the ass.

    Problem is, those hippies, along with the gays, the blacks, the trannies and the feminists now control the universities, the corporations, the media, the military, the banks, and the internet. They're now senators, governors, congressmen, judges and CEOs. And they're on the side of the looters, the rioters, the arsonists, the blacks, and Antifa.

    They're going to stand up to the army if Trump deploys them in the streets. Governors and senators will probably march with the rioters and dare the army to shoot them. Black and brown troops will mutiny and refuse to suppress the riots.

    Then, when Trump loses in the fall, the next Democrat administration will use this as a precedent to send the army after "racists" and "white nationalists."

    I think we're in deep shit, kids.

    Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard, @JimB, @Redman

    The Long March through the institutions leads right off a cliff.

    • Replies: @Almost Missouri
    @JimB

    Unfortunately, it's off a cliff for everyone, not just the Marchers.

  112. Anonymous[249] • Disclaimer says:
    @obwandiyag
    George Floyd is the tip of the iceberg. That's why people are mad. It's not over him. It's over constant police brutality, sometimes ending with murder.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LA1UMGNgprQ

    Replies: @Lurker, @frankie p, @vhrm, @Henry's Cat, @Anonymous, @Anonymous, @Athletic and Whitesplosive, @Anonymous, @ben tillman, @Morris Applebaum IV, @anon

    It’s not over (the dead thug who did time for armed home robbery in Texas). It’s over constant police brutality, sometimes ending with murder.

    Unfortunately, obwandiyag has a point.

    Minneapolis mayor Jacob Frey is the REAL, apex culprit in this senseless and brutal killing of a handcuffed individual. Why is Frey still in office?

    Jacob Frey has allowed the following policy, enacted in 2012, to remain current approved practice followed by Minneapolis PD officers:

    Only sworn employees who have received training from the MPD Training Unit are authorized to use neck restraints. The MPD authorizes two types of neck restraints: Conscious Neck Restraint and Unconscious Neck Restraint. (04/16/12)

    Conscious Neck Restraint: The subject is placed in a neck restraint with intent to control, and not to render the subject unconscious, by only applying light to moderate pressure. (04/16/12)

    Unconscious Neck Restraint: The subject is placed in a neck restraint with the intention of rendering the person unconscious by applying adequate pressure. (04/16/12)

    • Replies: @William Badwhite
    @Anonymous

    Interesting. Do you have a source or link?

  113. @The Wild Geese Howard
    @Jack D


    They don’t even pretend to be neutral anymore.
     
    Which is why Trump should yank their broadcast licenses, send the Marines to take them off the air, and dare the shitlibs and goodwhites to do something about it.

    Replies: @Chris Mallory

    Which is why Trump should yank their broadcast licenses,

    Which shows you don’t know much about broadcasting. Cable channels do not have any license at all. Networks that broadcast over the airwaves usually have local affiliates who own the license, not the parent broadcaster.
    CNN and FOX News are both cable channels.
    Using 2019 numbers, 14% of people get their TV broadcast over the air. 79% get TV from cable or satellite.
    So you yank broadcast licenses all you do is keep a small number of people from getting local news and weather.

    Are you going to have them shut down cable and the internet too?

    • Replies: @Che Blutarsky
    @Chris Mallory

    You wouldn't have to twist very hard on many existing laws regarding RICO and terrorism to break up CNN. Or the DNC. Because they have shown to legitimately be criminal organizations.

    Replies: @Mike_from_SGV

  114. Trump’s Speech

    What do you think?

    What does it matter what he says? What Trump says and what he does are often two very different things.

  115. @Dr. X
    Trump's speech would have been GREAT -- in 1968. He thinks he's gonna do a Mayor Daley and kick the hippie scum in the ass.

    Problem is, those hippies, along with the gays, the blacks, the trannies and the feminists now control the universities, the corporations, the media, the military, the banks, and the internet. They're now senators, governors, congressmen, judges and CEOs. And they're on the side of the looters, the rioters, the arsonists, the blacks, and Antifa.

    They're going to stand up to the army if Trump deploys them in the streets. Governors and senators will probably march with the rioters and dare the army to shoot them. Black and brown troops will mutiny and refuse to suppress the riots.

    Then, when Trump loses in the fall, the next Democrat administration will use this as a precedent to send the army after "racists" and "white nationalists."

    I think we're in deep shit, kids.

    Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard, @JimB, @Redman

    Then why doesn’t he start shooting? It’s a fricken coup.

  116. @Percy Gryce
    Preferred Tucker's speech:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3n5_D59lSjc

    Replies: @Rapparee

    I hate TV news talking heads, and because of the format I can’t even really watch Mr. Carlson’s show for very long, but Tucker routinely speaks with the iron honesty of Solzhenitsyn.

    • Replies: @Lagertha
    @Rapparee

    And, sadly, he is the only one.

    , @Percy Gryce
    @Rapparee

    Yeah, even he's terrible when his guest is an uninteresting Fox News sycophant.

  117. @obwandiyag
    George Floyd is the tip of the iceberg. That's why people are mad. It's not over him. It's over constant police brutality, sometimes ending with murder.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LA1UMGNgprQ

    Replies: @Lurker, @frankie p, @vhrm, @Henry's Cat, @Anonymous, @Anonymous, @Athletic and Whitesplosive, @Anonymous, @ben tillman, @Morris Applebaum IV, @anon

    George Floyd is the tip of the iceberg. That’s why people are mad. It’s not over him.

    Of course, not. It’s people rioting because their source of information tells them they’re supposed to be outraged, which is horseshit because it’s based on a lie. It’s NOT about police brutality (which is real); it’s about a “racist” dimension to police killings (which is not).

    • Agree: vhrm
  118. “Trump’s speech”

    Oh, right. You mean this speech?

    next to of course god america i
    love you land of the pilgrims and so forth oh….

    Pretty sure e.e. cummings wrote every single American politician’s speech for them that one time, in advance. Quite a useful public service. If they’d all cut to the chase and just give the damn cummings speech instead of their own buzzword salad, it would save the rest of us some time.

  119. @Anon7
    The endless marching against something as general as “racism” is useless. Let’s get specific.

    Police need to have a health “Miranda” warning that they give to suspects.

    “You are in violation of the law. We will now restrain you in handcuffs and place you in this police vehicle. Do you have any health conditions that need to be considered?”

    Depending on the answer, they could call EMS. If you think it’s ridiculous, or too much trouble, consider the bother of watching your city burn to the ground.

    This is a specific problem, and needs a specific solution.

    Replies: @PiltdownMan, @Jack Armstrong, @Alice, @Alice, @botazefa

    This isn’t why Mpls is burning. It is burning for the obvious reason that the mayor of Mpls didn’t put out cops to arrest anyone AT ALL the first night of rioting nor the next day of looting, nor the next night of arsons. They literally said “give them space as long as they aren’t harming people.” It was an intentional decision to allow them to destroy the towns, and because whats reqarded gets repeated, it grew. Then BLM and Antifa got more of their peeps in and then more riot tourists came and then more thugs came and then all the people out of prison came.

    But let me add: the previous mayor and police chief both got bounced over Justine Damond’s death, and these were the new versions, same incompetence–hopey changy biy mayor and diversity police chief, being led by Antifa-supporter Keith Ellison, Ex Nation if Islam member as AG. Nothing ever changes when Dems run things.

    • Replies: @vhrm
    @Alice

    For everybody who's been watching looting going on with impunity for the past several days,

    Minutes 1 to 3 minutes of this video are inspring and can make you feel good about the police.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mGv33eBW5OI

    (It's from LA from Monday evening. ABC7 and KTLA5 in LA have had good helicopter based livestreams the past couple of days. )

    , @Anon7
    @Alice

    "Nothing ever changes when Dems run things."

    Key point. They have things just the way they like them.

  120. @Anonymous
    I think Antifa kids should remember to wear their safety glasses tonight.

    https://nypost.com/2020/06/01/protester-loses-eye-after-being-struck-by-police-tear-gas-canister/

    Replies: @Lagertha

    Most Antifa are not kids. It is an international anarchist group that thrives on violence and stands for nihilism. Most of them are washed-up 30+ year olds. They have now, taken over the looting – it is all, very highly organized.

    • Replies: @AnonAnon
    @Lagertha

    I’ve watched hours of video of the riots in the LA area and there are a lot of college-age looking kids in the crowds. In fact, they’re almost too white. I believe California is ~20% white for college age kids and the LA area protest crowd has been significantly whiter. (The after-dark looter crowd is mostly black, particularly last night, but there have been whites and Hispanics).

    I watched a stream this evening by some Antifa loser - a baby faced 30 year old - of the protest at the high end South Coast Plaza mall in Costa Mesa. The protestors were met with a major show of force, including an LRAD, and it never really got going. At one point near the end the guy doing the steaming bought a white claw at a gas station. He had to ask some other protestors near him to use their ID because his was “expired”. In the chat surrounding the exchange, two of the people in the background mentioned where they were from - one said he was from Wisconsin and another from South Carolina. The streamer had a bit of a twang so I’d bet he was out of state, too. There’s been comments on social media that the protesters have been bused in and given the info of the streamers and reflecting on the not-in-line-demographically whiteness of the major LA protesters I have to agree numbers are being inflated with professional protesters.

    Replies: @Lagertha, @Lagertha

  121. @Rapparee
    @Percy Gryce

    I hate TV news talking heads, and because of the format I can't even really watch Mr. Carlson's show for very long, but Tucker routinely speaks with the iron honesty of Solzhenitsyn.

    Replies: @Lagertha, @Percy Gryce

    And, sadly, he is the only one.

  122. @obwandiyag
    I think it's interesting, in the Chinese sense, that Sailer has all these convenient ironies right to hand. Irony after irony. Anytime he needs one, pop, up pops another irony out of his hat. You'd think they were being fed to him or something.

    Replies: @Alfa158, @Change that Matters, @Hypnotoad666

    Sailer has all these convenient ironies right to hand. Irony after irony. Anytime he needs one, pop, up pops another irony

    • Replies: @Dieter Kief
    @Hypnotoad666

    Lovely.

  123. @Jack D
    @JohnnyD


    They’re going to do everything they can to undercut him.
     
    They don't even pretend to be neutral anymore. Over the last few days I've come across NPR and CNN while channel/station flipping and each time the have gone on and on about how "Trump is lying". In the past (ESPECIALLY for Dem presidents and DOUBLE ESPECIALLY for Obama they would never dream to report the President's words and then immediately negate them but now they are absolutely, shamelessly partisan. For NPR this is especially troubling because they are doing this with taxpayer $.

    Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard, @JohnnyD

    Don Lemon was whining that Trump is militarizing our cities, as if the rampaging mobs weren’t a serious threat to American citizens.

  124. @Almost Missouri
    @Hypnotoad666

    The speech was competently written, consisting mainly of rhetorical filler. The gravamen was that 1) he "recommended" governors use the National Guard to restore order, and 2) if they don't restore order, then he will using the US military. He dotted his legal i's and crossed his legal t's by citing "defense of life and property" as the Insurrection Act or Posse Comitatus Act or whatever it is requires. He also said he is deploying military and Federal officers to protect Federal property (DC), although I had the impression that was already done by the DC Police as of 2AM this morning. (It took about an hour, once they got serious and launched tear gas.)

    He also called out Antifa specifically and repeatedly, which is good, and threatened to prosecute them to the "fullest extent of the law", which, as Anonymous (n) wrote, I'll believe it when I see it. Trump's not known for his follow through. The MSM and social media will of course go crazy about this and say the instigators were actually Russian Spetnatz or the Klan or whatever, but you can't fix every stupidity at once, so at least this gets a more realistic narrative out.

    You could hear the sound of gunfire in the background as he gave this speech at the White House rose garden(?). Can't recall that ever happening before.

    The most striking thing about the speech though, was its brevity and Trump's demeanor. It was very underpowered and "phoned in", as if he were short of breath or suffering an illness. Or had suffered a very great personal blow. This was the only time I've seen him like this.

    Replies: @vhrm, @Stephen Dodge, @Intelligent Dasein, @Mike_from_SGV, @Coemgen

    This was the only time I’ve seen him like this.

    Perhaps he just realized how deeply entrenched are the forces arrayed against him. He does not seem to have noticed it before.

  125. @Hibernian
    @Dave Pinsen

    When I was in the NG, (I left about 10 years ago.) a lot of NG soldiers were students and/or marginally employed. They could use the money, especially single mothers. The cops you're talking about tended to be Officers or Senior NCOs, but a lot of leadership personnel were full time NG. I think if the Governors want to use the NG to trample civil liberties they can, at least to a certain extent, and the self limitation you're talking about won't be all that strong.

    Replies: @Louis Renault

    You mean governors declaring half their state’s residents nonessential and forbidding them to leave home, not work, not go to church wasn’t trampling civil liberties?

    • Agree: botazefa
  126. @JimB

    I think Antifa kids should remember to wear their safety glasses tonight.
     
    http://americandigest.org/sidelines/Rocket-hits-the-Moon-300x230.jpg

    Replies: @Lagertha

    They’re not kids, by any means…and, I actually hope they get injured, badly and permanently – violent, nihilistic people deserve no sympathy. They wanna play war, so they must suffer the consequences. Once the unmasking of them starts with forced vaccinations and FRekon downloads, their violence can be destroyed. Retinal recon is already very good at spotting these people. The irony is, the people who will go after them harder than Trump, will be Democrats because they are ruining the relationship of Blacks and Democrats candidates.

  127. @Mike_from_SGV
    @JohnnyD

    You are right Johnny. This is why Trump will fail unless 'call out the military' includes all of the above as targets. Drones would work nicely on fixed targets. We are in a literal war, and they are functioning as enemy combatants, so either Trump needs to get on with it, or resign and let Pelosi lead us peacefully into a queer police state.

    Replies: @JohnnyD

    Removing Trump from office is definitely the end game. I think the Democratic governors and mayors are purposefully doing nothing to stop the rioting and looting to hurt Trump. Unfortunately, Trump didn’t do himself any favors by waiting a couple of days to address the nation.

    • Replies: @Alice
    @JohnnyD

    Disagree. He let liberal voters in D cities in a variety of states, some ballteground states, feel the terror and fear that their govt will not protect them.

    That may not make them change their votes, but surely nothing less than that amount of fear would cause someone's worldview bubble to burst.

  128. @theMann
    @Hypnotoad666

    The problem with "an overwhelming show of force" is that it is wrong twice over: First, because it will just be a show; second, because every agitator from here to Beijing will be able to claim that the US Government is making war on its own people (would be technically true, btw).


    ISR drones, hunter\killer teams with night vision equipment and ATN or Night Owl equipped rifles, sabotage teams cutting water, sewer and electric lines, while destroying ISP routers and especially Cell Phone towers.......Silently in the dead of night, poke a cities eyes out, return it to the 19th century, ruthlessly hunt down and eliminate the Organizers, quickly, quietly, efficiently. No visible Police, no visible Military..


    Then have provocateurs dressed as rioters burn down some Governor's mansions and second residences, their families can take their chances just like ordinary people do from the arsonists......


    Turn it over to me and there would never be another riot in America for 100 years and the Media liars would have no one to blame.

    Replies: @BenKenobi

    Damn, you’ve been on fire the past few days.

    You have a newsletter I can subscribe to?

  129. @JohnnyD
    I'm pessimistic. The major institutions--the media, Hollywood, academia, Amazon, the corporate world, Wall Street, the judges--are all on the side of ANTIFA/BLM/the undocumented shopping community. They're going to do everything they can to undercut him.

    Replies: @anon, @Mike_from_SGV, @Jack D, @S. Anonyia, @Hypnotoad666

    I’m pessimistic. The major institutions–the media, Hollywood, academia, Amazon, the corporate world, Wall Street, the judges–are all on the side of ANTIFA/BLM/the undocumented shopping community. They’re going to do everything they can to undercut him.

    It is truly depressing actually.

    I swear the only bright spot is Tucker. Tonight he was showing the explicit violence by blacks and antifa; naming the names of Republican cucks who are pandering to the MSM race narrative (including The Heritage Foundation, Mike Pence, Jared Kushner and Nikki Hailey); and calling out the lying Dem. race hustlers (“The rioters are the Democrats’ voters”).

    We know Trump watches Tucker, so I hope he’s paying attention.

    I love this guy. Tucker 2024!

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Hypnotoad666

    Starting around 4:40, a sequence shows an (Asian?) jewelry store owner in Dallas, TX being brutally beaten by "rioters."

    The sequence includes a white couple, probably in their 50s, in black "riot" gear making their get-away after an evening's riot slumming. Both are clearly identifiable. A later clip shows the same woman being helped to her feet by the man, apparently after getting in a few kicks into the store owner's body.

    Both should be sued beyond bankruptcy.

    Replies: @AnonAnon

  130. @scrivener3
    They should still read The Oresteia in college.

    Wiki

    It is important that Athena did not just forgive Orestes and forbid the Furies from chasing him, she intended to put him to a trial and find a just answer to the question regarding his innocence. This is the first example of proper litigation in the trilogy and illuminates the change from emotional retaliation to civilized decisions regarding alleged crimes.[17] Instead of allowing the Furies to torture Orestes, she decided that she would have both the Furies and Orestes plead their case before she decided on the verdict. In addition, Athena set up the ground rules for how the verdict would be decided so that everything would be dealt with fairly. By Athena creating this blueprint the future of revenge-killings and the merciless hunting of the Furies would be eliminated from Greece. Once the trial concluded, Athena proclaimed the innocence of Orestes and he was set free from the Furies. The cycle of murder and revenge had come to an end while the foundation for future litigation had been laid.

    Was that a great civilization or what?

    Replies: @SFG, @Crouchback

    But The Oresteia doesn’t end with the trial. Athena still has to propitiate the Furies, whose anger is not groundless (you shouldn’t kill your mother, whatever clever arguments one can make for killing one’s mother). The Furies promise vengeance, and Athena pacifies them by offering something much greater than a bribe but a kind of redress of their grievances that acknowledges that their visceral sense of justice (matricide is wrong) still has a place in the new order, and in fact that the new rational order, which can be manipulated by sophists (as was the case with the dicey arguments that Apollo makes in the trial), needs to be undergirded by that visceral sense so that justice is not just who has a more clever lawyer. I have no idea of how to think of this week’s madness in light of the trilogy, but I wanted to point out that Aeschylus is up to something much more complicated simply supporting trial by jury.

  131. @S. Anonyia
    @JohnnyD

    Same. At this point, I’m pretty sure we are witnessing an attempted coup organized by some elements of alphabet agencies. What convinced me was seeing some rioting in SLC of all places. I mean, there aren’t THAT many California transplants there yet.

    Everyone knows Mormons are disproportionately both law-abiding, and spooks. Spooks were there egging on the kids. Just like they are egging on the crowds in DC.

    Honestly fearful of a Maidan type situation soon.

    I think the goal is to get Trump/the military/the national guard to retaliate enough that they can start the process of delegitimizing him.

    Replies: @JohnnyD

    I agree. I also think that many of these Democratic governors and mayors purposefully did nothing to stop the rioters and looters, who are really their street soldiers.

  132. @Anon7
    The endless marching against something as general as “racism” is useless. Let’s get specific.

    Police need to have a health “Miranda” warning that they give to suspects.

    “You are in violation of the law. We will now restrain you in handcuffs and place you in this police vehicle. Do you have any health conditions that need to be considered?”

    Depending on the answer, they could call EMS. If you think it’s ridiculous, or too much trouble, consider the bother of watching your city burn to the ground.

    This is a specific problem, and needs a specific solution.

    Replies: @PiltdownMan, @Jack Armstrong, @Alice, @Alice, @botazefa

    Just ignore the editorial comment, read the letter about the conditions the police worked under. The mayors of the twin cities and governor wanted riots. it serves their political purposes. Oh I forgot, also Gov Walz’ daughter gave the rioters the information via twitter that no arrests would be made, and Dem congresswoman for Mpls Ilhan Omar’s daughter collected rioting gear and MN AG Keith Ellison’s son publicly supported Antifa.

  133. Well it’s just like our national anthem says:

    And the rockets’ red glare,
    The bombs bursting in air,
    Gave proof through the night,
    That the lights were not on… Wait, WHAT?

    When the White House was under siege, Trump hid in the basement, just like the guy in Night of the Living Dead.

    That was his speech.

  134. @Brian Reilly
    @Jus' Sayin'...

    Jus', What are you "conserving"? Time was that I was "conservative, in a Lockean sense. Now, I don't see anything much to conserve. A real conservative would be a sort of anti-tech old school "liberal" of libertarian bent but not Libertarian® demeanor, and I don't know anyone who pines for that.

    Replies: @obwandiyag

    I like how they “revere” the Founding Fathers and Original Intent and all that, but want to abolish Ben Franklin’s Post Office. The dirty traitors.

  135. @JohnnyD
    @Mike_from_SGV

    Removing Trump from office is definitely the end game. I think the Democratic governors and mayors are purposefully doing nothing to stop the rioting and looting to hurt Trump. Unfortunately, Trump didn't do himself any favors by waiting a couple of days to address the nation.

    Replies: @Alice

    Disagree. He let liberal voters in D cities in a variety of states, some ballteground states, feel the terror and fear that their govt will not protect them.

    That may not make them change their votes, but surely nothing less than that amount of fear would cause someone’s worldview bubble to burst.

    • Agree: AnonAnon
  136. Anonymous[249] • Disclaimer says:
    @jimmyriddle
    Looks like Tucker got to him again

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uUPM6MJs-rw

    Replies: @Anonymous

    “This video has been removed for violating Youtube’s terms of service.”

  137. Anonymous[249] • Disclaimer says:
    @Hypnotoad666
    @JohnnyD


    I’m pessimistic. The major institutions–the media, Hollywood, academia, Amazon, the corporate world, Wall Street, the judges–are all on the side of ANTIFA/BLM/the undocumented shopping community. They’re going to do everything they can to undercut him.
     
    It is truly depressing actually.

    I swear the only bright spot is Tucker. Tonight he was showing the explicit violence by blacks and antifa; naming the names of Republican cucks who are pandering to the MSM race narrative (including The Heritage Foundation, Mike Pence, Jared Kushner and Nikki Hailey); and calling out the lying Dem. race hustlers ("The rioters are the Democrats' voters").

    We know Trump watches Tucker, so I hope he's paying attention.

    I love this guy. Tucker 2024!

    https://youtu.be/3n5_D59lSjc

    Replies: @Anonymous

    Starting around 4:40, a sequence shows an (Asian?) jewelry store owner in Dallas, TX being brutally beaten by “rioters.”

    The sequence includes a white couple, probably in their 50s, in black “riot” gear making their get-away after an evening’s riot slumming. Both are clearly identifiable. A later clip shows the same woman being helped to her feet by the man, apparently after getting in a few kicks into the store owner’s body.

    Both should be sued beyond bankruptcy.

    • Replies: @AnonAnon
    @Anonymous


    Starting around 4:40, a sequence shows an (Asian?) jewelry store owner in Dallas, TX being brutally beaten by “rioters.
     
    The store owner died today. They’ll be charged with murder. In Texas.
  138. @Almost Missouri
    @Hypnotoad666

    The speech was competently written, consisting mainly of rhetorical filler. The gravamen was that 1) he "recommended" governors use the National Guard to restore order, and 2) if they don't restore order, then he will using the US military. He dotted his legal i's and crossed his legal t's by citing "defense of life and property" as the Insurrection Act or Posse Comitatus Act or whatever it is requires. He also said he is deploying military and Federal officers to protect Federal property (DC), although I had the impression that was already done by the DC Police as of 2AM this morning. (It took about an hour, once they got serious and launched tear gas.)

    He also called out Antifa specifically and repeatedly, which is good, and threatened to prosecute them to the "fullest extent of the law", which, as Anonymous (n) wrote, I'll believe it when I see it. Trump's not known for his follow through. The MSM and social media will of course go crazy about this and say the instigators were actually Russian Spetnatz or the Klan or whatever, but you can't fix every stupidity at once, so at least this gets a more realistic narrative out.

    You could hear the sound of gunfire in the background as he gave this speech at the White House rose garden(?). Can't recall that ever happening before.

    The most striking thing about the speech though, was its brevity and Trump's demeanor. It was very underpowered and "phoned in", as if he were short of breath or suffering an illness. Or had suffered a very great personal blow. This was the only time I've seen him like this.

    Replies: @vhrm, @Stephen Dodge, @Intelligent Dasein, @Mike_from_SGV, @Coemgen

    This speech, and two dollars, is worth a cup of Starbucks (except oops, the Starbucks shop has been trashed and looted).

  139. @t
    @t

    The Indian liquor store doesn't care:

    https://twitter.com/JessicaVillag/status/1267602203478568960

    My guess is she one of the 3% that call themselves Latinx
    https://twitter.com/fernandah957/status/1267611621989498881

    If the media reports on this at all they'll pretend it's filled with racist whites like 1951.

    Replies: @PiltdownMan

    The Indian liquor store doesn’t care:

    Sandip Patel, owner of El Patron Liquor in Cicero, stands at the register looking at the damage to his store. Patel said it was looted Monday afternoon. “We’re all safe,” he said. “This is replaceable, lives aren’t. America has to build again, so we have to build again.” pic.twitter.com/sci3JRYTNd

    — Jessica Villagomez (@JessicaVillag) June 1, 2020

    He has good insurance and was a tad creative on his inventory valuation. That’s my cynical guess.

  140. @Chris Mallory
    @The Wild Geese Howard


    Which is why Trump should yank their broadcast licenses,
     
    Which shows you don't know much about broadcasting. Cable channels do not have any license at all. Networks that broadcast over the airwaves usually have local affiliates who own the license, not the parent broadcaster.
    CNN and FOX News are both cable channels.
    Using 2019 numbers, 14% of people get their TV broadcast over the air. 79% get TV from cable or satellite.
    So you yank broadcast licenses all you do is keep a small number of people from getting local news and weather.

    Are you going to have them shut down cable and the internet too?

    Replies: @Che Blutarsky

    You wouldn’t have to twist very hard on many existing laws regarding RICO and terrorism to break up CNN. Or the DNC. Because they have shown to legitimately be criminal organizations.

    • Replies: @Mike_from_SGV
    @Che Blutarsky

    You are on to something. The most important part of the rot is at the top, in the major institutions. Arresting the looters without correcting or destroying the leftist institutional rot won't change much. Not sure how to do that within the constitutional framework. Certainly me posting comments does zero.

  141. @Drew
    @Anonymous (n)

    Since I can't use the agree button, let me just say I whole-heartededlt agree. He's just another all-talk, no-action politician, the exact sort he excoriated on the campaign trail.

    Replies: @Antiwar7

    It always seems they show a new president something like the Eye of Ra on the morning they get sworn in. They always seem a bit cowed right away. Remember Obama promising to close the prison at Guantanamo Bay on the first day he was in office? And yet he didn’t get around to it in 8 years. That must have been embarrassing to him, galling even. But he didn’t close it.

  142. I want to repeat a point I made earlier.

    If Trump wants to make his mark on history, now is the time to give the “Equal But Not Identical” speech, a speech that sets him apart from the cowards offering empty blandishments and false narratives, and a speech that sets a new framework.

    He could begin by saying he wants to re-start “a conversation about race.” He could note that his predecessor Obama was keen on a conversation about race; Trump is now ready to follow his lead but make it an HONEST conversation about race instead of the conventional empty and disingenuous blather.

    Trump could title the speech “Created equal, but not identical” and talk about races and ethnic groups living together without pretense that they are identical in all dimensions.

    What are the key lines he should use in this dream speech? There are so many clear and simple and honest points that he could make; the speech would live forever. An important moment: a world leader finally opens up the discussion about human differences and their big social consequences, so clearly evident again this past week. He could talk a lot about sports performance — who does not know that African Americans are better at sprinting and basketball on average? We need to acknowledge our differences while preserving the principle of equality. Sports analogies would be a great way in to an honest conversation about race, and they would resonate with ordinary people who know about them implicitly. He would not have to talk too explicitly about the other differences – in economic and social outcomes but even a hint regarding them would be enough.

    Steve Sailer and his followers could essentially write it for him, perhaps Ron Unz could somehow get a draft version on to the White House reading list, and Stephen Miller could convince Trump that giving it is worth the risk, for a real shot at historical importance.

    • Agree: Almost Missouri
    • Replies: @silviosilver
    @Peter Johnson

    That's a plan only a HBD nerd could conceive.

    You don't get anywhere in politics by getting ahead of the masses. You tap into their existing sentiments -- fears, hopes, frustrations, grievances etc.

    Restoring a semblance of racial realism to public life is much more likely to be brought about through tapping into the (steadily growing) reserve of white grievance about anti-whitism. If this proves politically fruitful, it may spur academia towards a more scientifically grounded view of racial differences, in which case this topic can eventually be introduced to the public conversation. But if those are your first words, you're dead on arrival.

    Replies: @Peter Johnson

  143. @Che Blutarsky
    @Chris Mallory

    You wouldn't have to twist very hard on many existing laws regarding RICO and terrorism to break up CNN. Or the DNC. Because they have shown to legitimately be criminal organizations.

    Replies: @Mike_from_SGV

    You are on to something. The most important part of the rot is at the top, in the major institutions. Arresting the looters without correcting or destroying the leftist institutional rot won’t change much. Not sure how to do that within the constitutional framework. Certainly me posting comments does zero.

  144. @Hypnotoad666
    @obwandiyag


    Sailer has all these convenient ironies right to hand. Irony after irony. Anytime he needs one, pop, up pops another irony
     
    https://youtu.be/Jne9t8sHpUc

    Replies: @Dieter Kief

    Lovely.

  145. @Peter Johnson
    I want to repeat a point I made earlier.

    If Trump wants to make his mark on history, now is the time to give the "Equal But Not Identical" speech, a speech that sets him apart from the cowards offering empty blandishments and false narratives, and a speech that sets a new framework.

    He could begin by saying he wants to re-start “a conversation about race.” He could note that his predecessor Obama was keen on a conversation about race; Trump is now ready to follow his lead but make it an HONEST conversation about race instead of the conventional empty and disingenuous blather.

    Trump could title the speech “Created equal, but not identical” and talk about races and ethnic groups living together without pretense that they are identical in all dimensions.

    What are the key lines he should use in this dream speech? There are so many clear and simple and honest points that he could make; the speech would live forever. An important moment: a world leader finally opens up the discussion about human differences and their big social consequences, so clearly evident again this past week. He could talk a lot about sports performance -- who does not know that African Americans are better at sprinting and basketball on average? We need to acknowledge our differences while preserving the principle of equality. Sports analogies would be a great way in to an honest conversation about race, and they would resonate with ordinary people who know about them implicitly. He would not have to talk too explicitly about the other differences - in economic and social outcomes but even a hint regarding them would be enough.

    Steve Sailer and his followers could essentially write it for him, perhaps Ron Unz could somehow get a draft version on to the White House reading list, and Stephen Miller could convince Trump that giving it is worth the risk, for a real shot at historical importance.

    Replies: @silviosilver

    That’s a plan only a HBD nerd could conceive.

    You don’t get anywhere in politics by getting ahead of the masses. You tap into their existing sentiments — fears, hopes, frustrations, grievances etc.

    Restoring a semblance of racial realism to public life is much more likely to be brought about through tapping into the (steadily growing) reserve of white grievance about anti-whitism. If this proves politically fruitful, it may spur academia towards a more scientifically grounded view of racial differences, in which case this topic can eventually be introduced to the public conversation. But if those are your first words, you’re dead on arrival.

    • Replies: @Peter Johnson
    @silviosilver

    More empty and fallacious rhetoric about structural racism is the last thing we need now. A statesman gets ahead of the masses and points them in a better direction. Admittedly, such a speech by Trump would be widely condemned in the short run by the usual suspects, but who cares, they hate him anyhow. It would alter the narrative permanently and go down in history.

    Replies: @botazefa

  146. @Jenner Ickham Errican
    Holy moly. Trump’s tweets are getting out of control. :|

    https://twitter.com/SIMPforjesus/status/1266233411405922304

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @The Alarmist

    I didn’t do a screengrab, but Howard Cosell retweeted with the comment, “Wow, look at those monkeys run!”

  147. @obwandiyag
    George Floyd is the tip of the iceberg. That's why people are mad. It's not over him. It's over constant police brutality, sometimes ending with murder.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LA1UMGNgprQ

    Replies: @Lurker, @frankie p, @vhrm, @Henry's Cat, @Anonymous, @Anonymous, @Athletic and Whitesplosive, @Anonymous, @ben tillman, @Morris Applebaum IV, @anon

    An estimated 250,000 people die a year from medical errors. That’s what people with half a brain need to worry about. The likelihood that a bad police officer will harm you is about the same as your winning the lottery.

  148. Except for the usual GOP gimmes to plutocrats and Israel Trump doesn’t DO things He SAYS things, He say things to white people who are desperate for a President who will speak to them in a way that suggests he is one of them, one with their concerns and interests. But Trump is not one of them, or us and never has been. He just knows how to sound like us. This is the Art of the Con. And it works All he has to do is sometimes say things that white people wan’t to hear and our imaginations take over and find excuses for him. Even as astute an observer as Tucker Carlson is blaming Jared Kushner for Trump’s betrayals of his base. But Trump is not Kushner’s fault. Kushner is Trump’s fault. Kushner is Trump without the
    Art of the Con.

  149. @silviosilver
    @Peter Johnson

    That's a plan only a HBD nerd could conceive.

    You don't get anywhere in politics by getting ahead of the masses. You tap into their existing sentiments -- fears, hopes, frustrations, grievances etc.

    Restoring a semblance of racial realism to public life is much more likely to be brought about through tapping into the (steadily growing) reserve of white grievance about anti-whitism. If this proves politically fruitful, it may spur academia towards a more scientifically grounded view of racial differences, in which case this topic can eventually be introduced to the public conversation. But if those are your first words, you're dead on arrival.

    Replies: @Peter Johnson

    More empty and fallacious rhetoric about structural racism is the last thing we need now. A statesman gets ahead of the masses and points them in a better direction. Admittedly, such a speech by Trump would be widely condemned in the short run by the usual suspects, but who cares, they hate him anyhow. It would alter the narrative permanently and go down in history.

    • Replies: @botazefa
    @Peter Johnson


    More empty and fallacious rhetoric about structural racism is the last thing we need now
     
    I'm sorry, but I don't think the HBD approach of simply explaining to African Americans that, as a group, they are an IQ SD below the white mean, and therefore only have god to blame for their suffering, is going to achieve the outcome you want.

    When have you ever managed to convince a believer with facts?

    And your "equal but not identical" phrasing doesn't make sense to me.

    I get where you are coming from, and I wish an honest conversation could be had. It needs to be delivered by Oprah or Michelle, not Trump, don't you agree?

    Replies: @Peter Johnson

  150. Trump could also carefully talk about the proposal, by Robert Johnson the owner of BET (Black Entertainment Television) for $14 trillion in reparations paid by white Americans to African-Americans. He could put that on a per-capita basis in terms of what it would cost each non-AA family, and ask how long it would take for that money to be wasted and live everyone exactly where they are now. Biden of course will be in favor of this $14 trillion transfer and Trump could note that as well. So it could be a powerful and winning speech if done right.

    If HBD is false, then white Americans owe African Americans $14 trillion. Calculate the cost per capita and ask people to take their pick of narratives.

    • Troll: VinnyVette
  151. vhrm says:
    @Alice
    @Anon7

    This isn't why Mpls is burning. It is burning for the obvious reason that the mayor of Mpls didn't put out cops to arrest anyone AT ALL the first night of rioting nor the next day of looting, nor the next night of arsons. They literally said "give them space as long as they aren't harming people." It was an intentional decision to allow them to destroy the towns, and because whats reqarded gets repeated, it grew. Then BLM and Antifa got more of their peeps in and then more riot tourists came and then more thugs came and then all the people out of prison came.

    But let me add: the previous mayor and police chief both got bounced over Justine Damond's death, and these were the new versions, same incompetence--hopey changy biy mayor and diversity police chief, being led by Antifa-supporter Keith Ellison, Ex Nation if Islam member as AG. Nothing ever changes when Dems run things.

    Replies: @vhrm, @Anon7

    For everybody who’s been watching looting going on with impunity for the past several days,

    Minutes 1 to 3 minutes of this video are inspring and can make you feel good about the police.

    (It’s from LA from Monday evening. ABC7 and KTLA5 in LA have had good helicopter based livestreams the past couple of days. )

  152. @Lagertha
    @Anonymous

    Most Antifa are not kids. It is an international anarchist group that thrives on violence and stands for nihilism. Most of them are washed-up 30+ year olds. They have now, taken over the looting - it is all, very highly organized.

    Replies: @AnonAnon

    I’ve watched hours of video of the riots in the LA area and there are a lot of college-age looking kids in the crowds. In fact, they’re almost too white. I believe California is ~20% white for college age kids and the LA area protest crowd has been significantly whiter. (The after-dark looter crowd is mostly black, particularly last night, but there have been whites and Hispanics).

    I watched a stream this evening by some Antifa loser – a baby faced 30 year old – of the protest at the high end South Coast Plaza mall in Costa Mesa. The protestors were met with a major show of force, including an LRAD, and it never really got going. At one point near the end the guy doing the steaming bought a white claw at a gas station. He had to ask some other protestors near him to use their ID because his was “expired”. In the chat surrounding the exchange, two of the people in the background mentioned where they were from – one said he was from Wisconsin and another from South Carolina. The streamer had a bit of a twang so I’d bet he was out of state, too. There’s been comments on social media that the protesters have been bused in and given the info of the streamers and reflecting on the not-in-line-demographically whiteness of the major LA protesters I have to agree numbers are being inflated with professional protesters.

    • Replies: @Lagertha
    @AnonAnon

    Antifa is a 70+ -year-old organization - formed in Europe. Antifa, today, is financed by George Soros. Their entire thing is: nihilism - which is supposed to lead to change. They are always, disaffected people who need a purpose...but also, lean left. And, just like Brown Shirts, they love being a part of a movement, and are aroused by violence and mayhem. They are turned-on by destruction. Cutting their funds off, is the way to cut their heads off. And, you are correct, they are from all over the country. George Soros loves buses...

    Replies: @Lagertha, @anon

    , @Lagertha
    @AnonAnon

    I have known about this for years. Now, that Antifa has been declared a Terrorist Org, these perp's lives will be ruined once they are caught. And, they won't go to jail; they will go to offshore holding systems. They will get no lawyer; their families or friends will not be able to reach them - Perfect! And, it gives me great pleasure to say that these are mostly white people! These awful, degenerate white people, need to be held accountable. In a weird way, this shows more respect to Lloyd and Black People...but that's just my weird brain thinking this idea.

  153. I thought his speech was great. It was very Dad’s in charge now – “If you don’t get your cities and states under control, I’ll do it for you.” The walk to the church was bad ass.

    However, I think LA was much more on top of things tonight – Van Nuys seemed to be ok and they were rounding up buses of perps at the end. TV coverage was back to normal at 7 pm. Riverside seemed to do well tonight, too. Orange County was on top of their protests in Anaheim and Costa Mesa so metro LA might not need the help.

    He needs to send in help sooner rather than later, though, otherwise regular people are going to start shooting.

  154. @Anonymous
    @Hypnotoad666

    Starting around 4:40, a sequence shows an (Asian?) jewelry store owner in Dallas, TX being brutally beaten by "rioters."

    The sequence includes a white couple, probably in their 50s, in black "riot" gear making their get-away after an evening's riot slumming. Both are clearly identifiable. A later clip shows the same woman being helped to her feet by the man, apparently after getting in a few kicks into the store owner's body.

    Both should be sued beyond bankruptcy.

    Replies: @AnonAnon

    Starting around 4:40, a sequence shows an (Asian?) jewelry store owner in Dallas, TX being brutally beaten by “rioters.

    The store owner died today. They’ll be charged with murder. In Texas.

  155. @Jack Armstrong
    @Anon7

    Dr. Baden ruled out health problems. George Floyd was healthy.

    Replies: @Coemgen

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Coemgen

    Good reference.

    Here is an interesting excerpt from the article:


    The pathophysiology of excited delirium is unclear,[8] but likely involves multiple factors.[17] These may include positional asphyxia, hyperthermia, drug toxicity, and/or catecholamine-induced fatal abnormal heart rhythms.[17]
     
  156. @Almost Missouri
    @Hypnotoad666

    The speech was competently written, consisting mainly of rhetorical filler. The gravamen was that 1) he "recommended" governors use the National Guard to restore order, and 2) if they don't restore order, then he will using the US military. He dotted his legal i's and crossed his legal t's by citing "defense of life and property" as the Insurrection Act or Posse Comitatus Act or whatever it is requires. He also said he is deploying military and Federal officers to protect Federal property (DC), although I had the impression that was already done by the DC Police as of 2AM this morning. (It took about an hour, once they got serious and launched tear gas.)

    He also called out Antifa specifically and repeatedly, which is good, and threatened to prosecute them to the "fullest extent of the law", which, as Anonymous (n) wrote, I'll believe it when I see it. Trump's not known for his follow through. The MSM and social media will of course go crazy about this and say the instigators were actually Russian Spetnatz or the Klan or whatever, but you can't fix every stupidity at once, so at least this gets a more realistic narrative out.

    You could hear the sound of gunfire in the background as he gave this speech at the White House rose garden(?). Can't recall that ever happening before.

    The most striking thing about the speech though, was its brevity and Trump's demeanor. It was very underpowered and "phoned in", as if he were short of breath or suffering an illness. Or had suffered a very great personal blow. This was the only time I've seen him like this.

    Replies: @vhrm, @Stephen Dodge, @Intelligent Dasein, @Mike_from_SGV, @Coemgen

    … Trump’s not known for his follow through …

    Are you really unaware that Donald Trump has more than a few major accomplishments under-his-belt?

  157. @JimB
    @Dr. X

    The Long March through the institutions leads right off a cliff.

    Replies: @Almost Missouri

    Unfortunately, it’s off a cliff for everyone, not just the Marchers.

  158. @The Wild Geese Howard
    OT:

    The White House going dark was not a good look, but I love how the (((media))) just had to use the fag-light version to make their comparison:

    https://twitter.com/globaltimesnews/status/1267464383010988032

    Replies: @Jim Don Bob

    Night vision goggles work better in the dark, plus you are not illuminating yourself as a target.

  159. @Anon7
    The endless marching against something as general as “racism” is useless. Let’s get specific.

    Police need to have a health “Miranda” warning that they give to suspects.

    “You are in violation of the law. We will now restrain you in handcuffs and place you in this police vehicle. Do you have any health conditions that need to be considered?”

    Depending on the answer, they could call EMS. If you think it’s ridiculous, or too much trouble, consider the bother of watching your city burn to the ground.

    This is a specific problem, and needs a specific solution.

    Replies: @PiltdownMan, @Jack Armstrong, @Alice, @Alice, @botazefa

    This is a specific problem, and needs a specific solution

    .

    We should require police have a master’s degree in any SJW-adjacent ‘discipline’ and pay each cop$150k/year.

  160. I don’t listen to speeches. Talk is cheap.

  161. @PiltdownMan
    @Anon7


    The endless marching against something as general as “racism” is useless.
     
    Railing against abstractions is the most striking aspect of protest in our times. The construction of such abstractions and calls to "fight" against them have also been a central strategy of "left thought" going back all the way to Karl Marx. There used to be a time when people would protest specifics, such as a cut in pay or an eviction, or bad food in a mining camp.

    It is easy to see, in this latest instance, how quickly the protests went from the specific complaint, a slight delay in the arrest of the lead cop, to the abstract-racism, oppression, the system-and thence into rioting and looting.

    Replies: @Anon7, @TomSchmidt

    “The construction of such abstractions and calls to “fight” against them have also been a central strategy of “left thought” going back all the way to Karl Marx. ”

    Further back. Roger Scruton, in Conservatism, talks about the difference between the American and French revolutions. One major difference: the FR declared “rights” to liberty, egalite fraternity without any specific method of securing those rights. In other words, it was a statement of philosophy ungrounded in the real world, and very soon led to the terror.

  162. @obwandiyag
    There are strikes all over the country. Even Amazon and Apple. You think anybody, Trump, you, anybody commenting on here, anybody anywhere, would so much as mention them.

    Why not? Because strikes are the alternative to ID politics.

    You are all correct that the media, the PTB, all our owners, love this.

    Because it isn't about strikes.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Hibernian, @TomSchmidt

    Got links?

  163. @Peter Johnson
    @silviosilver

    More empty and fallacious rhetoric about structural racism is the last thing we need now. A statesman gets ahead of the masses and points them in a better direction. Admittedly, such a speech by Trump would be widely condemned in the short run by the usual suspects, but who cares, they hate him anyhow. It would alter the narrative permanently and go down in history.

    Replies: @botazefa

    More empty and fallacious rhetoric about structural racism is the last thing we need now

    I’m sorry, but I don’t think the HBD approach of simply explaining to African Americans that, as a group, they are an IQ SD below the white mean, and therefore only have god to blame for their suffering, is going to achieve the outcome you want.

    When have you ever managed to convince a believer with facts?

    And your “equal but not identical” phrasing doesn’t make sense to me.

    I get where you are coming from, and I wish an honest conversation could be had. It needs to be delivered by Oprah or Michelle, not Trump, don’t you agree?

    • Replies: @Peter Johnson
    @botazefa

    Oprah doing it would be a wonderful moment of truthfulness, I agree with that. But with a figure like her, the statements would be quickly buried by the media and memory-holed. It would be more difficult to stop the honest conversation continuing if it was Trump. There would be vicious blow-back of course.

  164. @Alfa158
    @obwandiyag

    No you’d think that our decaying society is popping them up one after the other, and then you’d be right.
    Information is out there, he’s just letting it in. Or if you prefer a baseball analogy, American society keeps lobbing these dying ducks right over the middle of the plate and he keeps smashing them out of the ballpark.

    Replies: @Forbes

    Like I call iSteve: the noticing guy. If you pay attention as Steve does, with curiosity, rather than with an agenda, the irony is pretty easy to see. For most people, that is hard to do because they’re operating with preconceived notions about how the world should work and operate–as opposed to being open to seeing what is in front of you, how it actually works.

  165. @Art Deco
    @Jus' Sayin'...

    TruCons are poseurs, always and everywhere.

    Replies: @William Badwhite

    TruCons are poseurs, always and everywhere.

    No shit. If you’re looking for a real badass, you’re going to want to go with a librarian.

  166. @Anonymous (n)
    @obwandiyag

    Steve why do you keep letting these moronic hoaxer vermin like this guy post here? They bring the level of discourse down and make reading the comments hard to stomach.

    Replies: @William Badwhite

    I recommend you make heavy use of the “commenters to ignore” function. I have something like 15 names on mine, including this obanjowag doofus.

  167. @Anonymous
    @obwandiyag


    It’s not over (the dead thug who did time for armed home robbery in Texas). It’s over constant police brutality, sometimes ending with murder.

     

    Unfortunately, obwandiyag has a point.

    Minneapolis mayor Jacob Frey is the REAL, apex culprit in this senseless and brutal killing of a handcuffed individual. Why is Frey still in office?

    Jacob Frey has allowed the following policy, enacted in 2012, to remain current approved practice followed by Minneapolis PD officers:

    Only sworn employees who have received training from the MPD Training Unit are authorized to use neck restraints. The MPD authorizes two types of neck restraints: Conscious Neck Restraint and Unconscious Neck Restraint. (04/16/12)

    Conscious Neck Restraint: The subject is placed in a neck restraint with intent to control, and not to render the subject unconscious, by only applying light to moderate pressure. (04/16/12)

    Unconscious Neck Restraint: The subject is placed in a neck restraint with the intention of rendering the person unconscious by applying adequate pressure. (04/16/12)
     

    Replies: @William Badwhite

    Interesting. Do you have a source or link?

  168. Anonymous[249] • Disclaimer says:

    Interesting. Do you have a source or link?

    MPD regulation 5-300 is (currently still) posted here:

    http://www.minneapolismn.gov/police/policy/mpdpolicy_5-300_5-300

    Jacob Frey has still not been removed from office, and the MSM who are all in hyping the story worldwide (!) are still giving mayor Jacob Frey a pass, as usual.

    None of this takes away from the unwarranted brutality indulged in by MPD employee Chauvin whom current Senator Amy Klobuchar had refused to prosecute for previous abuses.

    • Replies: @William Badwhite
    @Anonymous

    Thanks.

  169. Anonymous[249] • Disclaimer says:
    @Coemgen
    @Jack Armstrong

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Excited_delirium

    Replies: @Anonymous

    Good reference.

    Here is an interesting excerpt from the article:

    The pathophysiology of excited delirium is unclear,[8] but likely involves multiple factors.[17] These may include positional asphyxia, hyperthermia, drug toxicity, and/or catecholamine-induced fatal abnormal heart rhythms.[17]

  170. @Anonymous

    Interesting. Do you have a source or link?
     
    MPD regulation 5-300 is (currently still) posted here:

    http://www.minneapolismn.gov/police/policy/mpdpolicy_5-300_5-300

    Jacob Frey has still not been removed from office, and the MSM who are all in hyping the story worldwide (!) are still giving mayor Jacob Frey a pass, as usual.

    None of this takes away from the unwarranted brutality indulged in by MPD employee Chauvin whom current Senator Amy Klobuchar had refused to prosecute for previous abuses.

    Replies: @William Badwhite

    Thanks.

  171. @Alice
    @Anon7

    This isn't why Mpls is burning. It is burning for the obvious reason that the mayor of Mpls didn't put out cops to arrest anyone AT ALL the first night of rioting nor the next day of looting, nor the next night of arsons. They literally said "give them space as long as they aren't harming people." It was an intentional decision to allow them to destroy the towns, and because whats reqarded gets repeated, it grew. Then BLM and Antifa got more of their peeps in and then more riot tourists came and then more thugs came and then all the people out of prison came.

    But let me add: the previous mayor and police chief both got bounced over Justine Damond's death, and these were the new versions, same incompetence--hopey changy biy mayor and diversity police chief, being led by Antifa-supporter Keith Ellison, Ex Nation if Islam member as AG. Nothing ever changes when Dems run things.

    Replies: @vhrm, @Anon7

    “Nothing ever changes when Dems run things.”

    Key point. They have things just the way they like them.

  172. @AnonAnon
    @Lagertha

    I’ve watched hours of video of the riots in the LA area and there are a lot of college-age looking kids in the crowds. In fact, they’re almost too white. I believe California is ~20% white for college age kids and the LA area protest crowd has been significantly whiter. (The after-dark looter crowd is mostly black, particularly last night, but there have been whites and Hispanics).

    I watched a stream this evening by some Antifa loser - a baby faced 30 year old - of the protest at the high end South Coast Plaza mall in Costa Mesa. The protestors were met with a major show of force, including an LRAD, and it never really got going. At one point near the end the guy doing the steaming bought a white claw at a gas station. He had to ask some other protestors near him to use their ID because his was “expired”. In the chat surrounding the exchange, two of the people in the background mentioned where they were from - one said he was from Wisconsin and another from South Carolina. The streamer had a bit of a twang so I’d bet he was out of state, too. There’s been comments on social media that the protesters have been bused in and given the info of the streamers and reflecting on the not-in-line-demographically whiteness of the major LA protesters I have to agree numbers are being inflated with professional protesters.

    Replies: @Lagertha, @Lagertha

    Antifa is a 70+ -year-old organization – formed in Europe. Antifa, today, is financed by George Soros. Their entire thing is: nihilism – which is supposed to lead to change. They are always, disaffected people who need a purpose…but also, lean left. And, just like Brown Shirts, they love being a part of a movement, and are aroused by violence and mayhem. They are turned-on by destruction. Cutting their funds off, is the way to cut their heads off. And, you are correct, they are from all over the country. George Soros loves buses…

    • Replies: @Lagertha
    @Lagertha

    Heads need to be cut off, so to speak. Freeze the money. Stop the cash. Cut off the power. Snuff these buggers out. Show no mercy - most important...no mercy.

    , @anon
    @Lagertha

    a "Night of the Long Knives"?
    It is fascinating that so-called antifa has copied the Sturmabteilung (meaning 'assault division' ) a/k/a Brown Shirts. They just changed the clothing to black.

    Of course, if the demo-rats win in Nov., they would use the antifa brown shirts (what a concept) to extract revenge on GOP big shots, burn down all of Trump's real estate, burn down Evangelical and Catholic Churches (the religious Left is safe and may participate in the bloodshed).
    After the dirty work is done, then the Long Knives. Tried and true plan.

    Replies: @Lagertha

  173. @botazefa
    @Peter Johnson


    More empty and fallacious rhetoric about structural racism is the last thing we need now
     
    I'm sorry, but I don't think the HBD approach of simply explaining to African Americans that, as a group, they are an IQ SD below the white mean, and therefore only have god to blame for their suffering, is going to achieve the outcome you want.

    When have you ever managed to convince a believer with facts?

    And your "equal but not identical" phrasing doesn't make sense to me.

    I get where you are coming from, and I wish an honest conversation could be had. It needs to be delivered by Oprah or Michelle, not Trump, don't you agree?

    Replies: @Peter Johnson

    Oprah doing it would be a wonderful moment of truthfulness, I agree with that. But with a figure like her, the statements would be quickly buried by the media and memory-holed. It would be more difficult to stop the honest conversation continuing if it was Trump. There would be vicious blow-back of course.

  174. @Anonymous
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WR6B1TKRDEY

    I don't think there is anything wrong with what he said. In those states that haven't dealt with the problem yet, Trump is right to stop the violence and property damage rather than make it a political issue. It has been about a week now of riots. Someone should be the adult here, and the governors have had their opportunity. Glad Trump called out Antifa.

    As far as justice is concerned, I do think justice should be served. I am not sure of the outcome of a fair review. If the police officers were taking a textbook approach, then the SOPs are wrong and need to be changed.

    It seems like this situation has been ginned up to be yet another way to try to get Trump out of office and it is having the opposite effect in my view.

    Replies: @European-American

    Thanks.

    It took me so long to find the speech that I still haven’t watched it.

    The actual speech starts at 10:30, here’s a direct link:

    Maybe I’ll watch it later. But honestly, why bother? I do value unmediated information, but…

    I don’t follow the news much. I’ve often relied on Steve and a few other people to watch the news for me, poor souls… but lately I haven’t even followed Steve that much, sadly.

    Or not so sadly. It’s pretty clear that following the “news” is bad for morale. Not following it or people’s reactions to it, I feel great!

    I know there’s a virus, or a riot, … I know enough to safely walk out the door, I have some idea of who I’ll vote for, I know most news is bs, … Am I missing anything?…

    I do like to get news that helps me professionally, or personally, or that inspires me, or makes me laugh.

    But most news isn’t that. It’s just noxious.

  175. @Rapparee
    @Percy Gryce

    I hate TV news talking heads, and because of the format I can't even really watch Mr. Carlson's show for very long, but Tucker routinely speaks with the iron honesty of Solzhenitsyn.

    Replies: @Lagertha, @Percy Gryce

    Yeah, even he’s terrible when his guest is an uninteresting Fox News sycophant.

  176. @Lagertha
    @AnonAnon

    Antifa is a 70+ -year-old organization - formed in Europe. Antifa, today, is financed by George Soros. Their entire thing is: nihilism - which is supposed to lead to change. They are always, disaffected people who need a purpose...but also, lean left. And, just like Brown Shirts, they love being a part of a movement, and are aroused by violence and mayhem. They are turned-on by destruction. Cutting their funds off, is the way to cut their heads off. And, you are correct, they are from all over the country. George Soros loves buses...

    Replies: @Lagertha, @anon

    Heads need to be cut off, so to speak. Freeze the money. Stop the cash. Cut off the power. Snuff these buggers out. Show no mercy – most important…no mercy.

  177. @obwandiyag
    George Floyd is the tip of the iceberg. That's why people are mad. It's not over him. It's over constant police brutality, sometimes ending with murder.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LA1UMGNgprQ

    Replies: @Lurker, @frankie p, @vhrm, @Henry's Cat, @Anonymous, @Anonymous, @Athletic and Whitesplosive, @Anonymous, @ben tillman, @Morris Applebaum IV, @anon

    Wakanda !

  178. anon[196] • Disclaimer says:
    @Lagertha
    @AnonAnon

    Antifa is a 70+ -year-old organization - formed in Europe. Antifa, today, is financed by George Soros. Their entire thing is: nihilism - which is supposed to lead to change. They are always, disaffected people who need a purpose...but also, lean left. And, just like Brown Shirts, they love being a part of a movement, and are aroused by violence and mayhem. They are turned-on by destruction. Cutting their funds off, is the way to cut their heads off. And, you are correct, they are from all over the country. George Soros loves buses...

    Replies: @Lagertha, @anon

    a “Night of the Long Knives”?
    It is fascinating that so-called antifa has copied the Sturmabteilung (meaning ‘assault division’ ) a/k/a Brown Shirts. They just changed the clothing to black.

    Of course, if the demo-rats win in Nov., they would use the antifa brown shirts (what a concept) to extract revenge on GOP big shots, burn down all of Trump’s real estate, burn down Evangelical and Catholic Churches (the religious Left is safe and may participate in the bloodshed).
    After the dirty work is done, then the Long Knives. Tried and true plan.

    • Replies: @Lagertha
    @anon

    However, it is too late. Now, that they are Terrorists, the cat and mouse game gives the cat the chance to wipe the dirty, white-assed vermin out for good (I really hate, hate, hate white Communists).

    The problem for Antifa members: they care about their families and lives. They forfeited everything! I will rejoice seeing thousands of useless eaters being rounded up and sent to Guantanamo! They are just like Al Queda and ISIS. But, they are responsible for instigating violence and killing innocent people.

  179. @AnonAnon
    @Lagertha

    I’ve watched hours of video of the riots in the LA area and there are a lot of college-age looking kids in the crowds. In fact, they’re almost too white. I believe California is ~20% white for college age kids and the LA area protest crowd has been significantly whiter. (The after-dark looter crowd is mostly black, particularly last night, but there have been whites and Hispanics).

    I watched a stream this evening by some Antifa loser - a baby faced 30 year old - of the protest at the high end South Coast Plaza mall in Costa Mesa. The protestors were met with a major show of force, including an LRAD, and it never really got going. At one point near the end the guy doing the steaming bought a white claw at a gas station. He had to ask some other protestors near him to use their ID because his was “expired”. In the chat surrounding the exchange, two of the people in the background mentioned where they were from - one said he was from Wisconsin and another from South Carolina. The streamer had a bit of a twang so I’d bet he was out of state, too. There’s been comments on social media that the protesters have been bused in and given the info of the streamers and reflecting on the not-in-line-demographically whiteness of the major LA protesters I have to agree numbers are being inflated with professional protesters.

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    I have known about this for years. Now, that Antifa has been declared a Terrorist Org, these perp’s lives will be ruined once they are caught. And, they won’t go to jail; they will go to offshore holding systems. They will get no lawyer; their families or friends will not be able to reach them – Perfect! And, it gives me great pleasure to say that these are mostly white people! These awful, degenerate white people, need to be held accountable. In a weird way, this shows more respect to Lloyd and Black People…but that’s just my weird brain thinking this idea.

  180. @anon
    @Lagertha

    a "Night of the Long Knives"?
    It is fascinating that so-called antifa has copied the Sturmabteilung (meaning 'assault division' ) a/k/a Brown Shirts. They just changed the clothing to black.

    Of course, if the demo-rats win in Nov., they would use the antifa brown shirts (what a concept) to extract revenge on GOP big shots, burn down all of Trump's real estate, burn down Evangelical and Catholic Churches (the religious Left is safe and may participate in the bloodshed).
    After the dirty work is done, then the Long Knives. Tried and true plan.

    Replies: @Lagertha

    However, it is too late. Now, that they are Terrorists, the cat and mouse game gives the cat the chance to wipe the dirty, white-assed vermin out for good (I really hate, hate, hate white Communists).

    The problem for Antifa members: they care about their families and lives. They forfeited everything! I will rejoice seeing thousands of useless eaters being rounded up and sent to Guantanamo! They are just like Al Queda and ISIS. But, they are responsible for instigating violence and killing innocent people.

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