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A year ago, a politician asked me who I thought would win the 2020 Presidential election. I said that it might come down to which side’s crazies acted out worst. For example, Black Lives Matter terrorism and rioting hurt Hillary in 2016, while the right-wing mass shooting at the Pittsburgh synagogue in just before the 2018 election helped the Democrats.

As it turned out, I was wrong: the right behaved surprisingly well throughout 2020, with virtually no mass shootings or Mostly Peaceful Protests, while the anti-Trump side went nuts after Memorial Day. And Trump still lost.

Still, it was very close, with Trump coming within 34,000 votes of tying 269-269, which would have meant he’d win in a state-by-state vote in the House, assuming the inevitable anti-Trump violence didn’t lead to a coup. (Alternative timeline headline: “Despite the Tragic Lynching of Barron Trump, Yesterday’s Burning of the White House was Mostly Peaceful.”)

It’s not impossible that, despite the full court press to play down the mass leftist lawbreaking, Biden would have won easily without the George Floyd mourning process. On the other hand, I can’t see much in the way of local evidence for that. On one hand, the BLM riot a week before the election in Philadelphia might have helped Trump pick up his 2 points over 2016 there. But in Minnesota, where the Democrats got much retail burned to the ground, Trump fell by five points over 2016.

But my point is that Trump supporters had behaved throughout 2020 with vastly more respect for the law than anti-Trump elements.

So, Trump pushed his luck one last time, inviting a big crowd of Trump die-hards to Washington DC to serve as a cheering backdrop for his Power of Positive Thinking fantasy of a Mr. Smith Goes to Washington ending in which, after Congress has been enlightened about Benford’s Law, bellwether counties, and other such matters, a morally broken Joe Biden staggers in to announce he’d stolen the election, and Trump is re-elected by acclamation.

Now obviously, Mr. Smith Goes to Washington wasn’t going to happen. The Trump Reality Distortion field doesn’t extend that far.

But why did Trump’s Luck fail him so ignominiously as having part of his crowd that he foresaw as an applauding audience turn into the mob that forced its way into the Capitol?

For one reason, there’s a selection effect between Trump going to a Trump rally in the hinterlands and Trump calling one last rally in DC: when Trump goes to his supporters, they are the salt of the earth.

But when he calls for his supporters to come to him from all across the country, the cost of travel is selecting for more extremism. So he winds up with a crowd that consists of tens of thousands of law-abiding citizens, a few thousand adventurers who are up for taking selfies inside the Capitol, a few hundred street brawlers up for for a good old fight shoving and bashing their way in, and few dozen real crazies who might or might not have done some very bad things if they’d got their hands on political enemies.

 
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  1. J.Ross says:

    What were Biden’s odds of winning an election in which any rules of any kind were enforced at all?

  2. Steve has said for years that it’s not the losing side that riots but the side that knows victory is in its grasp and wants to spike the football. Steve likes to remind people when he’s right so I’ll remind people when he was risibly wrong.

    I’ll add the boomer instinct to never fully commit and always leave space for equivocation and for pivoting to I told you so’s is really coming to the fore this week. The coulters, sailers et al who noisily jockeyed to yoke their wagon to an ascendant trump are suddenly full of i told you sos. Strange.

  3. Polistra says:

    But when he calls for his supporters to come to him from all across the country

    Did he actually do this? When, where, and how? What were his exact words?

    Not being rhetorical or snide–I just haven’t seen the details.

  4. Democracy is a form of government where people agree to be ruled by whoever wins the election, even if it is not who they voted for. Some countries have a population unsuited to democracy, so it is not for everyone.

    What should happen now is that the Republican party should be designated as a terrorist organisation by a presidential executive order and all those members of Congress and the Senate who voted against accepting the election results should be sent to Guantanamo Bay for reeducation.

    Another possible alternative will be for all those members to be expelled from the Republican party, which would run candidates against them in any future election should they choose to run as Trump Revolutionary Party candidates.

  5. I love it when cellphone video captures an angry, jeering mob in pursuit of some politician through an airport, or following some celebrity journalist back to his hotel, and so forth.

    I do not care when some mob trashes a capitol building. What’s disgusting is how the pompous reporters will try to claim that defiling a government building is a crime against humanity.

    I wish Dolly Madison had been captured.

    • Replies: @Pericles
    , @gate666
  6. Trump needs to pardon everyone involved except the Antifa guy who broke the window. Extend the middle finger on his way out. But as Coulter and others have said, Trump tends to show little loyalty to people who have risked a lot to support him. That may be his biggest failing.

    • Replies: @Anon
    , @Redman
  7. AKAHorace says:

    Steve,

    On balance how much did Black Lives Matter help/hurt Trump ? As an outsider I imagine that the riots would be good publicity for Trump.

    Also how did Covid help/hurt Trump ? Again as an outsider I think suspect that characters such as Je Suis Omar and Achmed E Newmanwho publically disparage relatively mild transmission precautions are a gift for the Democratic party…

    In fact, as an Alt-rightist I long for a Democrat crackdown in which they are both publically shot. They are probably as brave as they are stupid and so will die well, thus making them martyrs and helpful to our side rather than the embarrassments that they are now. (You will both get enormous memorial monuments and be revolutionary heroes of Trumpism though guys. Aircraft carriers named after each of you, the works). But enough about my wishes,

    however it is difficult for a foreigner to gauge US public opinion. Could Trump have done better with the moderate middle of white voters by being closer to the mainstream on how to handle Covid-19 ?

  8. JohnnyD says:

    I’m not much of a conspiracy theorist…but you have to wonder if some of the rioters were feds/plants. It’s so obvious that the Democratic Party/Deep State/ Silicon Valley are using the riot to silence all opposition. Even Ron Paul is too extreme: https://nypost.com/2021/01/11/facebook-censors-ron-paul/

  9. Mr. Anon says:
    @Jonathan Mason

    Democracy is a form of government where people agree to be ruled by whoever wins the election, even if it is not who they voted for.

    I don’t need lectures on democracy from somebody who thinks it’s the job of a democratic government to “rule” us.

    • Agree: TWS, Redman, Adam Smith
    • Replies: @photondancer
  10. Grumpy says:

    This Chinese video shows footage of people entering the Capitol building with police standing calmly on either side of a hallway.

    Starts at 6:18

    A Japanese journalist noticed the behavior of a couple of agitators at the front of the crowd just before Ashli Babbitt was shot.

  11. @Jonathan Mason

    Another possible alternative

    It seems you’re missing all sorts of possible outcomes.

    • Agree: Mike Tre, R.G. Camara
    • LOL: Stan d Mute
  12. “So he winds up with a crowd that consists of tens of thousands of law-abiding citizens, a few thousand adventurers who are up for taking selfies inside the Capitol, a few hundred street brawlers up for for a good old fight shoving and bashing their way in, and few dozen real crazies who might or might not have done some very bad things if they’d got their hands on political enemies.”

    I hear this take, and I do respect it. At the same time however, it will be some time indeed before someone like Ashli Babbit will be given a fair and total consideration by history; she didn’t deserve to die. An Armed Forces Veteran, a true believer, hoping for something better, believing what the President (in her mind and heart) was saying at a mass event…the psychological power of being only a few hundred yards from the leader of the free world must have had an immeasurable affect on her and many others, not to mention that the event had been planned weeks before, etc etc. No need to rehash and further.

    What was most interesting was the contrast between the crowds of BLM/Antifa supporters during last yr’s protests and the protesters of January 6. They seemed so….ordinary. As well as whiter, older, but also, for lack of a non-intentional ironic term, they seemed quite “normal” (not parents basement dwellers, rich trust fund kids, well connected kids, or ghettoside ballers). They seem like perfect examples of Michael Moore’s 2016 ad, why Donald Trump Will Win…the ones left behind in an ever increasing globalist economy. If any of you watch or skim thru the ad carefully, you’ll see that the people look “real”, in other words, they also look like the faces of who were in DC last week. Just ordinary, decent, confused people who didn’t really know where else to turn. Until the end, they put their trust in…

    But a few kind words for a former veteran like Ashli Babbit. If the Left can lionize a disgusting piece of garbage like Rachel Corrie, than the Right can have their Ashli Babbit.

    • Agree: Old Prude
    • Disagree: Corvinus
    • Thanks: V. Hickel
  13. One word: Agents provocateurs

    • LOL: MEH 0910
    • Replies: @MEH 0910
  14. I still think the goal of the BLM riots was to have a “Kent State” moment that the left could propagandize for decades. It never happened. A lot of buildings burnt down because the Dems wanted that one lucky fusillade from the cops/national guard/hotheaded rednecks. Never happened.

    But then this crap landed in their laps (with some help from AntiFa, no doubt). Oh, well. I don’t think most people are falling from it, and the one murder (black killing white) didn’t fit their narrative.

    Maybe Trump was “lucky” because he said mostly the right things and didn’t look or sound like the standard beltway toadstool.

    And, yes, it was brazenly stolen. Compare the swing state Florida with the other swing states. They announced all their early voting/mail-ins prior to the in-person votes, and so there was no way to “find” extra votes later.

    • Troll: Corvinus
    • Replies: @Buck Ransom
  15. @Ripple Earthdevil

    Absolutely. And they had much more tangible evidence than Benfords Law.

    And the “siege” of the capitol was an op. The coordinated reaction to it had all the spontanaity of the Schlieffen Plan.

    • Replies: @Richard B
  16. CPK says:

    Problem with this analysis: the November 12th “Stop the Steal” rally was at least comparable in size, at the same location, without incident. Granted, lots of confounds, but there was no reason to think the January 6th rally would be significantly different.

    Alternative hypothesis: the January 6th rally wasn’t different.

    Rather, the riotous element was separate from, additional to, and independent of the rally. They just used the larger rally as cover. The earlier November 12th rally was too short-notice for them to do this, but by January they’d had several weeks to get organized.

    This doesn’t mean they were some kind of Antifa false flag (although I don’t entirely discount that possibility) — but it wasn’t “part of his crowd” and it didn’t “turn into a mob”.

    Since that didn’t happen, why it happened (selection effects, etc.) doesn’t arise.

    • Agree: Joseph Doaks
  17. V. Hickel says:
    @Polistra

    he said come to DC on the 6th , it will be ‘wild’. he wasnt lying.

  18. J.Ross says:

    Go listen to the Justin Garcia interview on Red Ice. In moping and mourning and attempting to organize my downloads I stumbled across this interview from years ago, and I wish to God Trump had heard and obeyed it. All of it — pure blunt sense. A lot of stuff we have discussed, but back when it could have helped. Brief summary:
    What’s with the rallies, in the age of the internet, and the perfect storms of defamation and damage control on mass/social media? And the rallies have random people showing up, who might not be the people Veritas caught on video boasting about bird-dogging, but might still be people you don’t want there, like, uh, Buffalo Guy. How about no more rallies and total spin control?
    Trump didn’t do this because he personally greatly enjoys rallies, and he evidently couldn’t recruit media professionals who could control spin and keep gates. His best henchmen stumbled into a trap lunch at a swanky DC trough with a hostile author.
    Had we all listened to Mr Garcia we would be much better off.
    Bonus: Garcia didn’t put this fine a point on it but he does point out, look at all these people who say they’ve read Dune relaxing because Trump will do all the work.

  19. Thoughts says:

    Hindsight is 20/20

    It’s not humanly possible to foresee every single consequence. It’s all so logical looking back…but no one is THAT smart.

    If there had been no Capitol Entry (it wasn’t a riot…it was 6th graders excitedly taking a tour with a few troublemakers)

    Then you would have explained it away as ‘The cost of the plane ticket leads to only the High IQ Trump Supporters going to the Rally’

    I think your logic is wrong because you are not counting for the Anger.

    Anger is a factor that makes all your Logic go out the window. Even The Poor Little Match Girl may be capable of extreme anger if pushed far enough.

  20. BenKenobi says:

    I don’t understand how everyone is so up in arms about this mostly peaceful undocumented Capitol tour group.

    The fake outrage is nauseating.

  21. @Jonathan Mason

    Because you write decent comments occasionally, I can’t tell on ones like this whether you’re serious.

    You say you became an American citizen, but what budding Ecuadoran-American’s paper did you cheat off of to pass the Citizenship test? There was a question about what form of government the United States is supposed to have. What’d the lady you put down? Just curious.

    • Replies: @Jonathan Mason
  22. …and a few (or more than a few) agents provocateur.

    It’s another Charlottesville. Give your opponents enough prior notice, and they can plan some mischief. The media will do the rest.

    • Agree: Joseph Doaks
  23. Of course we know that right-wing misbehaviours don’t constitute massive looting, and I’ve never heard of any looting at all till now, in which there was some, but mostly for ‘souvenirs’, not luxury retail items such as the Floyd BLMs did. But this:

    But why did Trump’s Luck failed him so ignominiously as having part of his crowd that he foresaw as an applauding audience turn into the mob that forced its way into the Capitol?

    But did it? Your analysis may be correct about why the worshippers also included selfie-adventurers who could afford the rally-tourism. It doesn’t matter whether he incited them or not (of course they wanted him to, and he did, maybe without knowing what they were going to do, even if he goaded them on with “fight”, etc..) Even Trump not going to the Capitol with them as he said he would doesn’t matter.

    What does matter for ‘Trump’s luck’ is that it was not a matter of luck that his family and advisors could not convince him he oughtn’t enjoy the TV spectacle so much and for so long. Trump wouldn’t listen to them, sent the occupiers ‘peaceful blessings’ for hours. He got into it, maybe really thought they’d get either Pence or Pelosi or god knows who. Don’t you think that for a while he thought it couldn’t possibly get any better–then finally realized that they were just going to do mild vandalism, and shit on the floor (I didn’t know that and the photo is way too graphic, as photos will be.) Even Kellyanne Conway was trying to get him to stop it. Or maybe he thought it was his last big show while in office, and as an artist, he might as well gorge on as much of it as he could. He definitely likes good TV.

    He’s now mostly deserted, but is lucky no lawmaker got hurt or killed. But I don’t think it was bad luck that these people that weren’t like his usual rallygoers turned out to be thrill-seekers–after a while (and only for awhile) it’s pretty apparent he thought he was having the best of luck, and that it might get even better (and it could have, although the 6 deaths were not good luck, and do not make them seem that different from other ‘mostly peaceful protestors.)

    So you don’t think he thought he couldn’t believe his luck for a few hours?

    I don’t think he wanted such things as Sicknick getting beaten to death, or the others who just ‘died’, and it’s still unclear. Those 3 are sort of unusual, whereas Sicknick, Ashli Babbitt, and maybe the suicide seem like things that could happen in this sort of melee–although we still don’t know the story of the suicided cop either, or I don’t.

    • Troll: Redman
  24. Jack D says:

    few dozen real crazies who might or might not have done some very bad things if they’d got their hands on political enemies.

    This has mostly been conjured up ex post facto by the FBI and the other usual subjects. No one was going to LITERALLY hang Mike Pence from a gallows. The “rioters” were mostly laughing and smiling and taking selfies and having a jolly time. They were nothing like an angry black mob that sets people on fire, etc. They were nothing like Antifa who come masked (even before Covid) because they are planning to commit violent crimes.

    The only shooting seems to have been done by the police – that poor unarmed woman is already forgotten – no demands to “say her name” or riots in her honor. Which of DC’s ten different police forces (all of whom proved worthless) shot her? What is the name of her murderer? Why isn’t he in jail?

  25. Anonymous[302] • Disclaimer says:

    Why such reluctance for the Ockham explanation: Riots were novel in 2012-16 (*outside of Pac. NW), to initial brief Dem benefit before it came back to bite them, with goo-goo Jeb etc. impossibly losing the nomination and poising Trump to steal everyone’s lunch. By 2020, not only was it obsolete, Trump hubristically tried to play both sides of the street theater game. Did not go over at all with Mich., Wisc. types who’d tired of Days Of Rage, among other things that year.

    Democrats learned from their dialectical downfall, admittedly slowly and not always on the same page, but they always trusted the plan. See “15 Signs That You Might Be In An Abusive Relationship” meme.

  26. @J.Ross

    COVID19 = postal voting = massive Democrat ballot harvesting = Biden win.

    • Agree: Polynikes
  27. Voltarde says:

    It seems that the old religion has given way to the new.

    “… But as for me and my house …” (Joshua 24:15)

    Pretty soon school kids will have to recite such “Woke Commandments” starting in pre-school.

    I saw the above sign in my neighborhood recently, and the size of the sign is so small that it’s really only the homeowners who would possibly be able to read it. I guess it makes them feel morally superior.

    Or perhaps these signs are an attempt to ensure one’s home and family are spared during the coming retribution.

  28. Mike Tre says:

    “Still, it was very close, with Trump coming within 34,000 votes of tying 269-269, ”

    So no massive, multi-state election fraud to speak of, Steve?

    A simple yes or no will do, but I imagine I’m about 34,000 votes short of getting an answer to the above question.

  29. Anonymous[302] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jack D

    Mark Steyn was re-mentioning their Shock & Awe ventilation of errant motorist Miriam Carey in 2013, which I can’t deny I had 100% forgotten about.

  30. MEH 0910 says:
    @Matt Buckalew

    The coulters, sailers et al who noisily jockeyed to yoke their wagon to an ascendant trump are suddenly full of i told you sos. Strange.


    [MORE]

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
    , @MEH 0910
  31. @Jack D

    While the FBI is busy investigating the assorted aging frat stars and cosplayers who “sacked” the capital they are ignoring the far bigger issue of who kidnapped Jack D and started posting under his name.

  32. Anonymous[308] • Disclaimer says:
    @Ripple Earthdevil

    We’re going to have to live with this stupidity from people ostensibly on my side of the political spectrum for a long time I’m guessing.

  33. Clyde says:
    @Jonathan Mason

    They must have Ayahuasca where you live, troll. As far as Steve’s accounting goes, I belive Trump was cheated via paper ballots and electronically. Just look how hi-tech has lowered the boom post election. Very quickly for the melding of Biden-Silicon Valley-Deep Spook State.
    With defacto social credit ratings kicking in for Trumpsters

  34. @Jack D

    No one was going to LITERALLY hang Mike Pence from a gallows. The “rioters” were mostly laughing and smiling and taking selfies and having a jolly time.

    They would have LITERALLY roughed him up, though, if they could have gotten to him without too many gun-brandishing bodyguards. Fortunately, they didn’t. The collateral damage from this was amazingly minimal. But even Kevin McCarthy is not too gung-ho on the bow-ties he found in his office. And there were definitely people telling some of the rioters where Pelosi was.

    I still can’t believe none of them got hurt, because the rioters were idiotic to beat up Sicknick. Even Trump gave Tweet lip-service for the police during his weak first few tweets while he was having a blast.

    • Replies: @vinteuil
  35. a crowd that consists of tens of thousands of law-abiding citizens, a few thousand adventurers who are up for taking selfies inside the Capitol, a few hundred street brawlers up for for a good old fight shoving and bashing their way in, and few dozen real crazies who might or might not have done some very bad things if they’d got their hands on political enemies…

    …all coming to a city where Republicans are outnumbered by Antifa.

    And felons. And gays. And child molesters. And foreign lobbyists…

    • Replies: @Mike_from_SGV
  36. @Achmed E. Newman

    It is a long time since I took my citizenship test, but they only ask you 3 questions out of the panel of questions, and you are provided with the answers in advance so it is not really a test, more of a litany.

    So even if you know that the answer is untrue you just say what is in the book, because one of the qualifications for American citizenship is it to have the ability to say that black is white if the government said so.

    To be honest I do not remember the questions that I was asked. But the questions are usually something like “after which president was Washington DC named?”

    I am not really serious about sending those dissidents to Guantanamo Bay. It would be unfair to inflict the stink on innocent Cubans living close to the fence.

    But it would seem reasonable that the Republican party would it expel all those who voted to overturn the election, as clearly those people cannot participate in future elections if they do not believe in elections.

    I remember that at the time that Ted Cruz was running for President, one of his former law School professors said that he was the smartest student he had ever had. That being the case, we clearly don’t want any law school graduates at all to hold political office, if even the smartest are imbeciles.

    As for you Achmed, you really need to get out of the United States as soon as possible just like George Orwell just got out of Barcelona during the Spanish civil war in time to avoid being arrested and killed.

    Not saying that you will be arrested and killed, but you know that the United States is never going to return to the days of Wyatt Earp, Davy Crockett, and The Lone Ranger, and with the coming Stalinist rule of Josef Biden, there is bound to be mass persecution of dissidents who will have their guns confiscated and be forced to wear pink uniforms with tight pantso, and the letter R for Republican on their foreheads.

    Ecuador is great. Everybody wants to be an entrepreneur, and if professional people are out of work, they make ends meet by selling bottled water at traffic lights or selling vitamin pills on buses.

  37. It’s going to be a very politically violent four years if Biden/Harris are inaugurated. From both sides.

    • Agree: Adam Smith
  38. ic1000 says:
    @Polistra

    Tonight I (again) watched NBC Evening News With Lester Holt, and (again) Sailer’s version of events has nothing in common with what’s served up to viewers.

    The excited telejournalists told the expected narrative of doughty Democrats (and ten brave Republicans) who punished Trump’s over-the-top seditious, riot-inciting speech with Speed Impeachment. It was amusing that the damning words themselves were surely about to be broadcast when [out of time, also, look, a squirrel].

    Another segment bemoaned that in the waning days of his administration, Trump further validated Coulter’s low opinion of him by tardily proclaiming a set of Executive Orders without either practical or symbolic impact, as they are certain to be reversed by the first strokes of Biden’s pen. Sorry, that’s the alternate timeline Evening News. In this timeline, the reporter shared the awful news that the impeached Voldemort’s actions have conjured enchanted chains that hapless President Biden will be unable to break. It’s already clear that the failures of the new Administration’s domestic and foreign policies are due to this obstructionism.

    Sorry, Steve: Lester Holt and his most trusted news team have earned my trust. That means you’re the one who’s leading me astray.

  39. @Ripple Earthdevil

    In other countries, election results are fully reported on the same night or early the next day.

    How the hell did it take American election workers weeks to “count” the votes?

    I find it interesting that Trump was well ahead on election day. Then the vote count was “paused” (for whatever reason). Then under the cover of darkness, election officials somehow “found” enormous numbers of uncounted votes that were nearly 100% for Biden.

    Very strange. Oh well.

    • Replies: @notsaying
  40. Anon7 says:

    I think Trump was used to everyone’s behavior in controlled venues, and the idea that people might wanted to fight with the cops, not to mention Antifa mixing in, never occurred to him.

    We’ll never see Trump’s like again. He should wear his two fake impeachments with pride, it’s a measure of how deeply he was hated and feared by our enemies.

    • Agree: botazefa
  41. @Jonathan Mason

    OK, so you missed (c) Constitutional Republic or you got lucky and it wasn’t one of your 3. Why comment as if you know the answer when you don’t?

    I can’t tell if the TV infotainment got to you, or you are kidding again, because you sound like you fell for more propaganda here. Would you tell me, Jonathan, whether people in Portland, OR, Kenosha, WI, Minneapolis, MN, and elsewhere who burned down businesses and police stations should also be barred from participating in whatever democracy we supposedly have here?

    You have Ecuador as your bug-out location due to family reasons. I’d thought about Uruguay for a while (and before John Derbyshire mentioned it twice, I might add). It’s got amazingly good demographics and is also out of the way. However, I’m not the cut and run type, I’ve been realizing. There are still lots of good people worth defending here, though occasionally I lapse and think otherwise.

    They won’t come take the guns directly. Of that you can be assured. They will get the ammo first, if anything.

    • Agree: Ron Mexico
    • Replies: @Lurker
    , @botazefa
  42. slumber_j says:
    @Matt Buckalew

    Steve has said for years that it’s not the losing side that riots but the side that knows victory is in its grasp and wants to spike the football.

    Has he said that? I honestly don’t remember, but maybe you’re right.

    Not that it necessarily matters. The people who rioted at Trump’s inauguration: did they think victory was in their grasp? I’m not sure I get what you’re getting at here.

  43. newrouter says:

    Sailer you’re a pathetic person. Stats guy who doesn’t like electoral fraud stats. Still looking for the National Review gig/grift?

    • Agree: TWS
  44. Mr. Anon says:
    @Jonathan Mason

    But it would seem reasonable that the Republican party would it expel all those who voted to overturn the election, as clearly those people cannot participate in future elections if they do not believe in elections.

    They didn’t “vote to overturn the election”. What they did was object to the seating of electors – as is their privelege. And thier duty, if they believe those electors to have been chosen improperly. The counting has been described as “a ceremony”. It is not. It is a legislative procedure, and legislators are entitled to vote, or not, object, or not, as they see fit. Democratic house members objected to the seating of electors in 2001 and 2017. They did not have co-sponsorship by a Senator, so thier objections were ruled “out-of-order” (by Al Gore and Joe Biden, respectively, as it happens).

    Should Maxine Waters and Barbara Lee be expelled from the House?

    The Republican house members who voiced objections las week DID have a Senator to co-sign their letter of objection, so they were allowed to read their comments into the Congressional record.

    Maybe they should make that citizenship test a little harder.

  45. @Jonathan Mason

    Have you considered leaving? I knew we were getting the dregs of the UK, but you really take the biscuit.

    Why not go back? You can live in the gun-free paradise you crave while “calmly carrying on” as the police arrest you when you drive more than 10 miles from your semi-detached house. It’ll be great, and perfect for an authoritarian prick like yourself.

    The good news is that for every loser migrant from the UK voting for gun-grabbers we have probably 10 Cuban migrants voting for the NRA candidate. And that will never change.

    • Agree: peterike
  46. This election was the O.J.Simpson trial all over again, with the State Farm arena footage as the bloody glove. This time it was 4 or 5 “downtown” vote processing centers as opposed to a “downtown” jury, and it wasn’t just groups of black people cheering the verdict; it was half the country and 85% of the “news” media… Make that 98% now that Dorsey and company have made it illegal to speculate that the Juice may have done it.

  47. Steve left out the biggest reason there ended up being enough Biden/HARRIS votes in the right places to defeat Trump:

    Fear of SARS-CoV-2 was used to justify mass mail-in voting.

    Period.

    • Replies: @Anon7
    , @Anonymous
  48. dvorak says:
    @Polistra

    Did he actually do this? When, where, and how? What were his exact words?

    Trump didn’t say, “come to me now in my hour of need, or never come again.”

  49. Mr. Anon says:
    @MEH 0910

    To paraphrase Nixon: We’re all never-Trumpers now.

    Ann supported him when he was the only candidate supporting a populist agenda – more to the point, an anti-immigration agenda – and she turned against him when it became obvious that he was nothing but a moron and a blowhard. All the other candidates on offer in 2016 were some variant of John McCain, with the exception of Rand Paul who was on board with the anti-war part, but not the anti-immigration part of the populist agenda. Her actions, both before and after the election, were perfectly reasonable.

  50. anon[154] • Disclaimer says:

    I don’t know that Trump’s luck ran out. His opposition are overplaying their hand once again. Let’s face it, Trump was never going to prove he won the election. And since when, have the exact terms and conditions of leaving office been a thing?

    The Democrats have made it a thing. Because they want to make more speeches. They love the MSM proclaimed high ground that they will never see again in the foreseeable future.

    The riot or coup or what have you was a nothing burger. The stock market was up on coup day. A few months ago, Democrats were afraid Trump wouldn’t leave office. And now, they can’t bear to let him go.

    But he is leaving office alive. And with Biden who will follow his legacy of accomplishing little. The Democrats having been forced to abort their primary season to pick the only candidate with a chance. Never mind anything else.

    • Replies: @Ron Mexico
  51. Thomas says:

    But why did Trump’s Luck failed him so ignominiously as having part of his crowd that he foresaw as an applauding audience turn into the mob that forced its way into the Capitol?

    After the past four years, and especially after the past year, the answer I think is there’s a lot of plain damned exhaustion and intense anger among the roughly half of the electorate that supports Trump.

    We didn’t get much of what we were promised, unless a tax cut and the embassy in Jerusalem are your bag. Set aside the fact that a lot of that was due to Trump’s incompetence and fecklessness, because it doesn’t matter. Another large part of why we didn’t get it was the insane, over-the-top, by means fair-or-foul opposition by the Democrats, the Establishment, and the Deep State.

    So after three years of that, 2020 hit, which with COVID and the lockdowns, has left the whole country angry, frightened, ill at ease, bored, and frustrated. People have lost their jobs, their businesses, their child care plans, a great deal.

    And then the Summer of Floyd hits, and the Establishment basically carves out a huge exception to all these novel, unprecedented social controls to allow months of rioting because a handful of underclass blacks have still not figured out how not to act out in front of police in ways that get them killed. And we were all forced to play along with the liberal fantasy world on race as a result.

    Add to that all the online censorship, the deplatforming, the media blackouts up through the election, and it’s a wonder that it took this long for the right side of America to do anything at all.

    What I think that few observers have grasped yet, including and in particular Trump, is that the perception that the election wasn’t on the up-and-up has little to do with the nuts-and-bolts mechanics of vote counting or counties or statistics. All of what I described above, and the gradual, though quickening, slide into woke totalitarianism, has a substantial fraction of the country believing that the political system in this country is fundamentally no longer legitimate, at least as far as they’re concerned. They’re not wrong to feel this way. Unable to go out and congregate in public for nearly a year (except for the Establishment-approved BLM mobs), censored, forced into approved racial reeducation, fed media lies, all of these things struck at the timbers of democracy. We now have a “democracy” in which much of the “demos” cannot participate and has no faith in. The last-minute changes to voting rules and mail-in voting, which turned voting in contested jurisdictions opaque, was merely a final severance of the process from the people.

    Under these circumstances, it doesn’t matter, and it will never matter, what the evidence is or isn’t about the vote count. Trump’s supporters feel cheated, and they’re not wrong to feel that way for reasons that transcend those psephological minutiae. And there is no way that the outcome of the election can ever be rehabilitated in their eyes. It’s already done, and the woke aren’t about to seek amends now that they’re on the hunt with the scent of blood in the air.

    For Trump’s part, the denouement of the election over the past two months all came down to not being willing to accept that he didn’t do a very good job as President, at least especially not when COVID turned into his “3 am phone call,” and that he didn’t run a very good campaign, with no real issues to run on and with his son-in-law/prime minister/Svengali scurrying away with half the campaign funds. The only explanations I can come up with for his actions since the election are the psychological derangement that kept him from facing these facts, or else practical fear of the consequences of losing the legal immunities that come with the presidency. If it isn’t clear by now, for Trump, the presidency, MAGA, the crowds, his base, were all just a gavage to feed the endless need for attention demanded by narcissistic personality disorder. To Trump, nobody really matters who isn’t named “Trump.” (With the second disavowal in less than a week of the Capitol crowd he brought out, plus supposedly Giuliani today, he’s finally tossed under the bus nearly everyone not related to him. The Proud Boys, Jeff Sessions, and Steve Bannon all say hello.)

    For those reasons, Trump was never going to address the needs of his voters, because he was incapable of doing so. Those needs have now turned to rage at being unmet, as well as at the fact that those voters are definitely not better off than they were four years ago, and are most unlikely to be better off in another four.

  52. Anon7 says:

    OT: Nancy Pelosi’s lectern returned to the Capitol.

    “Nancy Pelosi’s lectern is back.

    “The House speaker’s podium — which was snatched by a Florida man during last week’s mayhem at the US Capitol — was returned to the building Wednesday.

    “Videos posted on Twitter showed a staffer wheeling the lectern through the Capitol’s Statuary Hall and to the Rayburn Room, just off the floor of the House of Representatives.”

    House Speaker Florida Man, we hardly knew ye.

  53. Anon7 says:
    @Buzz Mohawk

    Right, and don’t forget that fear of Trump was matched to fear of Covid for eight straight months by the Left media. People didn’t even have to come out from under their beds to vote against Trump.

  54. Anonymous[314] • Disclaimer says:
    @Buzz Mohawk

    Fear of SARS-CoV-2 was used to justify mass mail-in voting.

    They pulled out all stops. Covid-19 is a total regime change scamdemic. Sad so many smart people fell for it hook, line, and sinker.

    • LOL: Kronos, Buzz Mohawk
  55. ‘…Still, it was very close, with Trump coming within 34,000 votes of tying…’

    Please. Trump could have drawn another 100,000 votes. He still would have lost by 34,000 votes.

  56. ‘…But why did Trump’s Luck failed him so ignominiously as having part of his crowd that he foresaw as an applauding audience turn into the mob that forced its way into the Capitol?..’

    He told them to peacefully protest.

    Just what sort of obscenely obsequious grovel would lead you to concede that neither he nor his audience did anything wrong?

    Nothing was actually inappropriate. The election was egregiously fraudulent. The protesting crowd was so huge much of it forced its way into the Capitol. So? Quite right, too.

    About the only flaw is that this perfectly reasonable display of popular outrage has been so widely vilified and condemned.

    There — not in the protest itself — lies the flaw.

    • Agree: TWS
    • Replies: @PhysicistDave
  57. HA says:
    @Matt Buckalew

    “The coulters, sailers et al who noisily jockeyed to yoke their wagon to an ascendant trump are suddenly full of i told you sos. Strange.”

    Yeah, I hear you — given their concerns about immigration, rallying around another McCain or Romney or some sure-fire winner like that would have made SO much more sense.

    Say what you will of Trump, he gave the deplorables a chance to roar. Whatever happens to him, some politician is eventually going to remember what got him elected and decide he could go for another round of that.

  58. @Jonathan Mason

    Jonathan Mason wrote:

    should they choose to run as Trump Revolutionary Party candidates.

    Please, please! The correct term is the “Trump Revolutionary Unity Majority Party.”

    Have I ever mentioned that I love acronyms?

    You gotta have s sense of humor: the next four years — perhaps the next forty years — are going to be a very dark winter indeed, as Beijing Joe warned us. But even the captive peoples of the Soviet Empire survived with a sense of humor.

    • Replies: @MEH 0910
  59. Thomas says:
    @Jack D

    It serves the interests of both the woke left and the feds to spin this into the second coming of 9/11 (literally, according to a hysteria-piece in the The Atlantic, the Derp State’s company newsletter). The woke left can finally do what they always wanted to do and criminalize the opposition. And the feds get to try to acquit themselves from the humiliation of not protecting the people who sign their paychecks (plus that of shooting dead an unarmed woman, to boot). I don’t envy anyone who was in the Capitol what’s coming for them. I do look forward though to the redpill MAGA is going to get out of it.

    • Agree: danand
  60. Cope says:

    For example, Black Lives Matter terrorism and rioting hurt Hillary in 2016, while the right-wing mass shooting at the Pittsburgh synagogue in just before the 2018 election helped the Democrats.

    It would help the “dissident” Right greatly to stop the ridiculously superlative language when referring to its opponents. If they insist on doing it, then they should not complain afterwards when they receive the same treatment from the Left. From the FBI website

    BLM is not and has never been a terrorist group. No kidnappings, no bombings, no mass killings. The same for “Antifa”. And the same has to be said about the “MAGApedes”, Magatards or whatever noun you are going to use to refer to the Trump supporters who entered the Capitol on the 6th. They are not terrorists. That was not a coup.

    Now the right-wing mass shooting at the synagogue could be qualified as a terrorist act. I bet you could have found a similar mass shooting where the perpetrator was a BLM supporter and the motivation was related to BLM ideology, if you weren’t perhaps so lazy.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
  61. @Thomas

    … the perception that the election wasn’t on the up-and-up has little to do with the nuts-and-bolts mechanics of vote counting or counties or statistics. All of what I described above, and the gradual, though quickening, slide into woke totalitarianism, has a substantial fraction of the country believing that the political system in this country is fundamentally no longer legitimate…

    While the points you make in your comment are more or less true, let’s be clear about something: No mail-in voting, no Trump loss.

    Yes, many of us feel the system is corrupt, but that last detail pushed it over the top, whether or not the votes were legitimate. Is simply favored Democrat votes and made things like ballot harvesting and lazy-ass “mail-it-in” voting easier for more people. That was the straw that broke the camel’s back. To understand this is not to deny everything else you wrote.

  62. ‘…and few dozen real crazies who might or might not have done some very bad things if they’d got their hands on political enemies…’

    The horror.

    I have to say, your implicit assumption that it could all be by Queensbury rules speaks well for you — but is perhaps a bit obsolescent.

  63. @Ripple Earthdevil

    As it turned out, I was wrong: the right behaved surprisingly well throughout 2020, with virtually no mass shootings or Mostly Peaceful Protests, while the anti-Trump side went nuts after Memorial Day. And Trump still lost.

    Trump’s luck failed because Trump failed to actually run on the Democrats’ riots.

    — “Democrat riots” never passed his lips.
    — “George Floyd overdose on fentanyl” never passed his lips.
    — “Ferguson effect” may well have never passed his lips.
    — “Democrats’ BLM lies have driven up the murder rate–thousands of more murders in the US–in cynical ploy for votes” never passed his lips.
    — Certainly no recitation of black murder % vs. black police killing % ever passed his lips to debunk the Democrats narrative.
    — “Kamala Harris’s blood libel against white people” never passed his lips. Heck i don’t even think he ever mentioned “Kamala Harris”, “Jussie Smollett” and “hate hoax” together.
    — “The Democrat’s Anitfa street fighting thugs” never passed his lips.
    — “The Democrat’s anti-white lies” never passed his lips.

    Nope Trump listened to the Jewish son-in-law “smart cookie” and we got pathetic and disgusting mumblings about “you called them super-predators” … never a challenge to the Democrat’s minoritarian slander of white people and attack upon the rule-of-law.

    No “Trump’s luck” failed, because Trump neither focused and delivered, nor could even adequately articulate, his popular nationalist program. All he had was “i’m Donald Trump” and with the media ganging up to smear that … it wasn’t enough.

  64. @Jack D

    Uh, Jack, her name is Ashli.

    Ashli Babbit. Let’s do the right thing and say her name.

  65. anon[901] • Disclaimer says:

    Trump got impeached again.

    Yawn.

    The left is so brain dead they can’t even think of anything new, just resorting good old fashion brute force, first the blatant vote fraud, which they just claim “no evidence!”, now again with the impeachment.

    Brain dead and morally bankrupt, that’s the left.

  66. @Thomas

    Thomas wrote:

    The only explanations I can come up with for his actions since the election are the psychological derangement that kept him from facing these facts, or else practical fear of the consequences of losing the legal immunities that come with the presidency.

    Trump is a few years older than I am: he’s an early Boomer; I’m a mid-Boomer.

    I think what a lot of people fail to grasp is that, despite all the uproar in our youth — Vietnam, Civil Rights, etc. — we Boomers absorbed the idea that the USA and American institutions are fundamentally sound. Democratic institutions did end the war in Vietnam, did weather the Civil Rights transformation, did drive Nixon out of office, did allow Reagan to stabilize the country, etc.

    We went through life thinking that in the end the good guys win.

    And, so, I think Trump believed the courts would actually do the right thing when there was so much obvious election corruption. He figured that if he told the crowd to be peaceful and a tiny number became violent, then he would no more be blamed than Chris Cuomo has been blamed for the antifa madness.

    But is it not 1955 or 1965 or 1975 or 1985 anymore. Ike did not hate America. LBJ, as crooked as he was, did not hate America. Or Carter or Reagan.

    But now the people who run this country hate or despise most of their own countrymen (the elite may most despise some of the underclass who foolishly vote for them and get almost nothing in return — reread Tom Wolfe’s “Mau-Mauing the Flak Cathcers”).

    Apparently, the Russian elite back in the nineteenth century despised most of the Russian people: I hear that many spoke better French than Russian.

    Russia 1905 = America 2021?

    Which means Russia 1917 = America 2033?

    The analogy is not comforting.

  67. Thomas says:
    @Buzz Mohawk

    While the points you make in your comment are more or less true, let’s be clear about something: No mail-in voting, no Trump loss.

    Yes, many of us feel the system is corrupt, but that last detail pushed it over the top, whether or not the votes were legitimate. Is simply favored Democrat votes and made things like ballot harvesting and lazy-ass “mail-it-in” voting easier for more people.

    I agree, though mail-in voting also made fraud much easier to commit and also much harder to catch. It was also yet more Trump derps out of so very many to do basically nothing on voter fraud for four years, to punt on the lawsuits over the last-minute changes for 2020, and to not have a robust operation in place to develop evidence of voter fraud as it happened. Ann Coulter has been excoriating Trump and his administration for years at freezing Kris Kobach out. He would’ve been the best person imaginable to do something about voter fraud and voting mechanics.

    I’m not sure what the world of mail-in voting means for Republicans overall. Two national elections in a row now and they haven’t managed to compete successfully where it’s a significant factor. I guess they’ll have to learn to play the game plus double down on the fraud fighting. Washington adopted it a number of years ago universally (there is no in-person voting in Washington anymore), and it seems to have worked very much to the Democrats’ advantage.

    • Replies: @epebble
  68. Anon[299] • Disclaimer says:

    I still think the Democrats cheated. When you’re counting votes, you don’t tell the Republican poll watchers to go home because the vote counting will be finished in the morning, and then keep on counting votes once they leave the room. You pull this crap because you’re trying to cheat. This happened in a cluster of states where Trump was leading until they told the Republican poll watchers to go home. If you want to convince everyone that the vote was totally fair, you have all the poll watchers stay there until the last vote is counted.

    This is logical common sense.

    Trump’s greatest failure was not realizing how corrupt government had become, and not doing enough to clean it out.

  69. @Jack D

    This has mostly been conjured up ex post facto by the FBI and the other usual subjects. No one was going to LITERALLY hang Mike Pence from a gallows. The “rioters” were mostly laughing and smiling and taking selfies and having a jolly time. They were nothing like an angry black mob that sets people on fire, etc. They were nothing like Antifa who come masked (even before Covid) because they are planning to commit violent crimes.

    Well said, Jack.

    And blatantly obvious. The “insurrection” where the insurrectionists–who presumably could have been armed–never seemed to actually attack the existing authorities, didn’t say burn down the existing authorities stuff, but took selfies giving a symbolic f-you to the establishment then marched out in a couple hours.

    You have to have Pravda level lying to call this an insurrection, but Pravda level lying is what we’ve got now.

    These “insurrectionists”–and i’m not defending their stupidity, playing into the establishment’s hands–caused much less grief to our cowering politicians than the grief those politicians cause for the American people on any given day.

    • Agree: MEH 0910, Redman
  70. @Buzz Mohawk

    If mail-in voting got more people voting then surely that’s a good thing. Especially since the pandemic is going on, so the people who ran the elections are to be congratulated.

    The Republicans just need to learn how to encourage their voters to mail their votes in just like Mr Trump did. He should have appeared in TV commercials showing people how to mail in their votes, just like he mailed in his performance as president

    When elections are held on a cold day in November that is not even a holiday, just a regular working day, it makes a lot of sense to encourage as many people as possible to vote by mail.

    In fact we ought to have online voting too.

  71. @Colin Wright

    Colin Wright wrote:

    Just what sort of obscenely obsequious grovel would lead you to concede that neither he nor his audience did anything wrong?

    Well… if somebody really did kill a Capitol cop with a fire extinguisher, that was not good. (Yes, I know we don’t know yet and may never know.)

    But I’ve found that trying to explain your general point even to a lot Trump voters, especially female ones, just does not go over. Yes, mobbing City Hall or state Capitols or the federal Capitol building happens all the time — it’s as American (and democratic) as apple pie.

    But a majority of this country, especially of the women, is very, very sensitive to “proper” behavior. And during the lockdown, people have more (faux) personal contact with Mike Wallace or Chris Cuomo or Rachel Maddow than with real people. And if even Tucker feels obligated to apologize for the Capitol protesters, well, defenidng them is something that is just “not done.”

    Like attacking MLK or defending Joe McCarthy.

    Of course, tearing down statues of Abe Lincoln used to be something that just was “not done.”

    We would do well to figure out how the Left manages to shifts social mores so fast.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
    , @Stan Adams
  72. @Buzz Mohawk

    Zuckerberg pumped $400 billion into a “get out the vote effort,” about as much as did the federal government. However, Zuckerberg targeted his to areas where he knew the vote would skew Democrat, though he made some then donations to Republican areas so as not to be too obvious.

    It’s not just the final count of the votes that matters. It’s all the censorship of stories damaging to Biden, promotions of unsubstantiated accusations damaging to Trump, failure to fact-check or dispute Biden’s lies, tendentious debate commentators, skewing of search results by big Tech, and active election manipulation by the woke billionaires.

    • Agree: botazefa
    • Replies: @Buzz Mohawk
    , @David
  73. Dave Pinsen says: • Website
    @Polistra

    Did he actually do this? When, where, and how? What were his exact words?

    Yes. On Twitter, before the rally. Twitter has deleted Trump’s account, but Gab cloned it, and you can read Trump’s tweets there: https://gab.com/realdonaldtrump

    • Replies: @Desiderius
    , @Polistra
  74. @Jack D

    Oh, please.

    So this was just like some kind of student prank in which a few people got killed, but hey, they would have died eventually anyway sooner or later.

    Jack, you make a lot of highly intelligent and interesting posts, but this is nonsense and not worthy of you. Stop it!

    • Disagree: Achmed E. Newman
  75. A very iStevey take on the situation. And in other news of interest to boomercons…

  76. @Ripple Earthdevil

    Wow did you tell Trumps legal team that? If you had told them and showed them how to prove it, he would be getting inaugurated in a week.

    • Replies: @James Braxton
  77. @J.Ross

    Seriously bro? And you got the first comment with your version of “what is the sound of one hand clapping”?

    I know you. Do better.

  78. The most important thing regarding Trump now:

    That we develop an aggressive conservative populist nationalist politics without Trump.

    The Republican party must become a party that is 100% oriented to making life better for the productive “married with children” middle class Americans.

    And most critically an intense focus on making that productive, fertile “married with children” life–making easier for our American young people to achieve.

    We need a party–and if the party fails, a new political movement–whose mantra is “affordable family formation”. And not one more word about the has-been Trump.

    • Agree: Rob, James Speaks
    • Replies: @James Speaks
    , @vinteuil
  79. @Mr. Anon

    In the last year of his presidency, Trump has swung very hard to the restrictionist right on immigration. Mostly due to Stephen Miller. I’ve been blown away by how good he became on the immigration issue in 2020.

    Sadly, Biden has promised to undo all of Trump’s executive orders once he enters the Whitehouse. In addition to that, Biden is also promising amnesty, more family migration, and more H1bs.

    It’s hard to overstate just how much has been lost by Biden&Harris ascending to the Whitehouse.

    We finally got what we wanted and now it has been taken away from us.

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
  80. Dave Pinsen says: • Website
    @Matt Buckalew

    Steve doesn’t belong in the same category as Ann Coulter here at all.

    AFAIK, Steve has never endorsed any candidate on this blog. Ann not only endorsed Trump, but wrote a book praising him, and then did a batshit 180 degree turn attacking Trump, despite him being the best President since Eisenhower on immigration.

  81. @Reg Cæsar

    BLM is smart enough to riot in cities run by White leftists who passively observe the chaos. Trumpians, being dim, conducted their riot in the national capital city and gosh, there is backlash.

    • Thanks: Polistra
  82. @Ripple Earthdevil

    Trump’s luck failed because the Democrats engineered the theft of the election in the most blatant, grotesque way.

    You’re like Gen-X adjacent aren’t you? Not quite cynical enough.

    The faulty premise is Trump’s “luck”. Any retard could have won 2016 with a populist platform of America first, immigration moratorium, and “cleaning out the swamp.” Trump was just the guy chosen to stand on the soapbox and get the accolades of us deplorables. Trump was a perfect anti-hero. Too perfect. 🤩

    Associate the ideas you want to defame with boorish Jew York real-estate developers and proceed.

    This has all been just another in the interminable and frankly boring series of Yahweh’s messiahs sold to people who ought to know better.

  83. @Polistra

    I read a transcript of his speech- most of it was idiotic Trump-speak. But no calls for violence.

    • Thanks: Polistra
  84. @PhysicistDave

    ‘We would do well to figure out how the Left manages to shifts social mores so fast.’

    How? You just do it. If we stood up for our perfectly reasonable expression of outrage and demanded that charges be filed forthwith against the black cop who shot a white woman for simple trespass, we would be winning.

    Instead, we’re apologizing and — as a consequence — losing.

    • Replies: @PhysicistDave
    , @botazefa
  85. anonymous[201] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jack D

    This looks peaceful to you?

    • Replies: @Jack D
    , @vinteuil
  86. anon[687] • Disclaimer says:

    In Uganda, Facebook took down a bunch of pro-incumbent-party accounts earlier this week, claiming they were fake and run out of government ministries.

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-uganda-election-facebook/facebook-takes-down-ugandan-accounts-ahead-of-election-idUSKBN29G14Q

    Incumbent president Musveni then ordered Facebook connections blocked in Uganda.

    He says that Facebook decided to target NRM message senders by blocking them.

    He questioned why anyone would do that and said he called on his team to warn Facebook that if it is going to operate in Uganda, it should be used equitably by everybody who wants to use it. He says if the group wants to take sides against the NRM, then they will not operate in Uganda.

    https://thebridge.co.ug/2021/01/13/museveni-explains-why-facebook-was-blocked-in-uganda/

    The election is Thursday.

    • Replies: @Dave Pinsen
  87. Looking at violence in protests is only one metric on how well behaved protests have been 2020.

    The more important metric IMHO: How much did each worsen the current SARS-CoV-2/Covid-19 pandemic.

    IMHO all public mass protests are a very bad idea during an airborne pandemic.

    I ran a continually updated forecast of COVID-19 deaths at Metaculus.com

    https://pandemic.metaculus.com/questions/3988/how-many-total-deaths-in-the-us-will-be-directly-attributed-to-covid-19-in-2021/

    After each major set of protests or political rallies we saw that adjusted up.

    BLM to their credit at least generally wore masks(which is reflected in a smaller uptick). That was less true of anti-lockdown protestes or Trump rallies Still organizers of both have blood on their hands-but the right has far more blood on their hands related to disease spread caussed by protests.

    Trump was also incompetent in how he handled the pandemic. The right were foolish in anticipating how the public would react to the aftermath of their protests.

    Current projections are we will have over 550K pandemic deaths in the US before 2022. Those include BTW one of my first cousins. We will also have a similar number of people facing long term disability issues-including an old friend from my college days who is relearning how to walk after a stroke that happened in they aftermath of COVID-19. They are in their early 60’s.

    The side that acted most poorly lost :the GOP

  88. Thomas says:
    @PhysicistDave

    I think what a lot of people fail to grasp is that, despite all the uproar in our youth — Vietnam, Civil Rights, etc. — we Boomers absorbed the idea that the USA and American institutions are fundamentally sound. Democratic institutions did end the war in Vietnam, did weather the Civil Rights transformation, did drive Nixon out of office, did allow Reagan to stabilize the country, etc.

    We went through life thinking that in the end the good guys win.

    The Z-Man had a pretty good blog post last week on generational politics and perspectives that addressed this.

    https://thezman.com/wordpress/?p=22438

    Apparently, the Russian elite back in the nineteenth century despised most of the Russian people: I hear that many spoke better French than Russian.

    French was the court language at the Winter Palace in St. Petersburg. This started under Catherine the Great, who was regarded along with other Continental rulers further west as one of the “enlightened despots” of the late 18th and early 19th centuries, and was by birth a German princess born in Stettin. (From Peter the Great on, the Romanovs increasingly intermarried with Continental nobility, and the broad trend of westernization and Enlightenment in Russia had started under Peter I). You could call this an early example of globalism and a global elite, in a sense. The original “Davos set.”

    Some of my ancestors were Wolgadeutsche, “Volga Germans” invited by Catherine to emigrate from Germany (still a shithole country a century after the Thirty Years War) to help develop and modernize farming in southern Russia. I suppose you could think of them in a sense as “guest workers doing the job Russians wouldn’t do.” Eventually, they made their way to the American Midwest, a few steps ahead of the Russian Revolution. Catherine is still remembered, warmly though probably somewhat tendentiously, in my family.

    Anyway, this personal bit of family history just goes to show there’s nothing new under the sun, at least in human affairs. Maybe Mamala Kamala will be bringing in “Mississippi Tamils” to modernize the backwards parts of America.

  89. @Jonathan Mason

    Especially since the pandemic is going on…

    ROTFLMFAO

    If mail-in voting got more people voting then surely that’s a good thing.

    That’s like saying not having voter ID is a good thing because it gets more people to vote, when in fact, not having it simply makes it impossible to know who is doing the voting.

    Mail-in voting destroys all transparency and does also make fraud easy. It makes it impossible to know who is doing the voting, or even if all the ballots are from real, live, people.

    Online would be a hackable and fake-able disaster, multiplying the problem.

    Every Democrat initiative to change voting from identified-in-person is simply an attempt to make fraud and election rigging easier, and this includes classic city Democrat practices like going around to neighborhoods of dumb people and either bribing them or telling them who to vote for and then collecting their ballots. These are Democrat greatest hits.

    The only votes that should be mailed in are absentee ones that have been pre-requested by people who can be identified and struck from the voter list in the polling place accordingly. Such voters have been around a long time and have always been small in number.

    This debate is probably moot, anyway, because most likely from now on you will get your wish.

    • Agree: Clyde, ic1000
    • Replies: @Redneck farmer
  90. @Jonathan Mason

    Give me a break. Mail-in voting is a straight up fraud. Institute it and you have Democrat rule, now and forever. Show me a counter-example.

  91. Mr. Anon says:
    @JohnnyWalker123

    In the last year of his presidency, Trump has swung very hard to the restrictionist right on immigration. Mostly due to Stephen Miller. I’ve been blown away by how good he became on the immigration issue in 2020.

    So………when he had no real power to effect any change and it didn’t really matter at all.

    Yeah, I’m impressed.

    • Replies: @Boston Ben
  92. @Harry Baldwin

    Gee, it’s starting to sound like a coordinated effort to skew an election. What better way to facilitate it than to use fear of death by suffocation to get people to endorse a wholly unverifiable way of voting?

    Again, everything you and others say is true, but without the mail-in vote there would have been less opportunity for fraud and more need for real voters to actually get off their asses and identify themselves. Situations like this always favor Democrats. That fact was understood and used

    There was no enthusiasm for Biden/HARRIS. None. There was massive energy for Trump. Like him or not. It just doesn’t add up.

    • Agree: Harry Baldwin
  93. Lurker says:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Here’s a practice version of the test:

    https://my.uscis.gov/en/prep/test/civics/view

    I got 18 out of 20. I’m annoyed, it should have been 19.

  94. Jack D says:
    @Jonathan Mason

    I think I’ve gotten more “agrees” on this than on anything I’ve ever written here and so far your reply has zero “agrees”. The people (of Unz at least) have spoken.

    • LOL: Clyde
  95. @J.Ross

    Bidan doesn’t cower his own people into passive voice, so still pretty high. They have no trouble whatsoever enforcing whatever rules necessary for their own benefit. See how they kicked Kanye and the Green Party off the ballot in key states.

    • Troll: BB753
    • Replies: @J.Ross
  96. It’s not impossible that, despite the full court press to play down the mass leftist lawbreaking, Biden would have won easily without the George Floyd mourning process.

    Minnesota is inexplicable, but where the Black Lives Splatter Riots cost the Democrats the most was in the congressional races. Republicans picked up quite a few House seats, and would have held the Senate if Trump and pals hadn’t unloaded a boatload of cuckoo on the nation.

    This should be easy enough to understand. On the Republican side most of the crazy was confined to one man: Trump.

    On the Democratic side the crazy was spread out among hundreds of Democrats at every level: from Speaker Pelosi to city councils calling to defund the police to prosecutors refusing to charge the rioters.

  97. @Jack D

    “Some people did something”

  98. @anon

    Interesting take, but reasonable. Meet the new boss, same as the old boss. We’ll see.

  99. Altai says:

    Still, it was very close, with Trump coming within 34,000 votes of tying 269-269, which would have meant he’d win in a state-by-state vote in the House, assuming the inevitable anti-Trump violence didn’t lead to a coup. (Alternative timeline headline: “Despite the Tragic Lynching of Barron Trump, Yesterday’s Burning of the White House was Mostly Peaceful.”)

    What’s worth keeping in mind, Biden’s team wargamed claiming Trump ‘stole’ the election in the event of his winning automatically. In an alternative timeline that’s what would be happening. And who knows how violent it would be, but it’s what would be happening. Indeed, they even got Taylor Swift tweeting out about how Drumpf was stealing the mail vans to suppress the absentee ballots.

    An alternative timeline is Stephen Colbert sitting down, choking up and very seriously talk about how the guy from the apprentice is now stealing the 2020 vote and something something something, JFK, something something something, MLK, something something something, we need to stop it. We need to stop it folks, stop the steal!

    Trump only started down this path because some of his people were actually convinced, Biden’s team were going to go down that path no matter what like a cynical attempt to call a foul in sport.

    At the end of the day, how can you trust people who have been saying ‘we’re gunna git him’ the whole time?

    Serious question. What’s Stephen Colbert going to do now that Trump is gone? I suppose make everything bad about Biden’s term about his ‘old white maleness’? I mean, lots of Irish-Americans from Scranton are very passionate about blowing up the Middle East, couldn’t possibly be any other agendas, it’s just the core of old white maleness.

    • Replies: @anon
  100. Kronos says:
    @Ripple Earthdevil

    Is there anyone who can reasonably explain these graphs?

    • Replies: @Desiderius
    , @JohnGalt88
  101. @Dave Pinsen

    Jay F*vekiller (in that weird cocky tone Giuliani kept using) was promising Trump 2 million who could overwhelm whatever resistance the cops put up to do (unspecified).

    I think they were basically envisioning some kind of Color Revolution and/or Yeltsin vs Russian Parliament scene. Babbitt thought she was one of 3 million.

    Bad weather + COVID + Trump repeatedly not protecting his supporters turned the 2 mil into 200Kish which may have been enough without the violence.

    Still unclear (as usual) what all was involved there.

    • Replies: @Dave Pinsen
  102. @Jonathan Mason

    So this was just like some kind of student prank in which a few people got killed, but hey, they would have died eventually anyway sooner or later.

    Your comment is silly. Only one or two of the deaths may have been caused by the protestors and it’s quite possible that neither was intentional.

    Every video I have seen shows the protestors being surprisingly peaceful. Obviously they wanted to get into the Capitol, but once in they were remarkably well-behaved. One guy who knocked a gate over onto a female officer even helped her up to make sure she was ok. Real damage inside the Capitol appears to have been kept to a minimum. The government has already spent far more money rounding up the suspects than it will spend repairing the Capitol.

    All this episode has taught us is that our congressmen care far more when their own workplace is overrun by protestors than when the homes and businesses of private citizens are burned to the ground; and that they are willing to demonize a cop who kills an unarmed black man while trying to protect average citizens but rally to one of their own cops when he murders an unarmed woman in broad daylight.

    • Replies: @Jimbo
  103. @Kronos

    No one with any power to do anything about it. You’d have more luck trying to bust the allies at Nuremberg for Operation Fortitude than you would getting anyone in authority to even look at fraud in this election. The fix was in across the board.

  104. Given the realities of today’s world, last week’s short occupation of the Capitol could hardly have been more peaceful.

  105. @AnotherDad

    We need a party–and if the party fails, a new political movement–whose mantra is “affordable family formation”. And not one more word about the has-been Trump.

    The sooner, the better. Imagine if this new party was already challenging the narrative before the inauguration.

  106. @Dave Pinsen

    blockquote>AFAIK, Steve has never endorsed any candidate on this blog.

    He looked rather glad when Trump won, didn’t he?

    And now he does not care so much about voter fraud. He did though about the media manipulations (Hunter Biden et. a.l.) and he did notice the clearly anti-Trump Pfizer-CO-19-vaccine communication strategy. And lots of other stuff of this kind.

    Trump’s rally did have a lunatic quality to it. Steve’s hint at Mr. Smith Goes to Washington is not completely off. I still do think Trump was basically right to hold this rally though. I might be more convinced that actual voter fraud happened than Steve is. I think Shiva Ayyadurai and Jova H. Pulitzer and Melissa Corone and others (the Gateway Pundit) are onto something real.

     https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tYT8UV_OI5c

  107. @PhysicistDave

    [sperg]

    Mike Wallace has been dead for almost nine years.

    [/sperg]

  108. J.Ross says:
    @Desiderius

    Screwing over third parties is a deeply ingrained, long-established, to an extent practical tradition which far predates the current madness, plus it was Kanye. A massive midnight vote dump, with only one kind of one-contest ballot, following the suspension of procedure, and further following the violent alteration of procedure, is not the same as Republicans and Democrats agreeing that third parties shouldn’t be allowed to play.

    • Replies: @nsa
    , @Desiderius
  109. Pericles says:
    @Abolish_public_education

    It wasn’t a mob and the building wasn’t trashed or defiled. However, I do agree that the peaceful popular protest against the stolen election was not a crime against humanity.

  110. J.Ross says:
    @Jack D

    FBI was making a painfully Soviet (crossed with Call of Duty) speech about how prepared they were to save America from the baby-eating terrorists. “The FBI doesn’t do easy.” A great line, really. Explains why they’re cool with people looting Target and burning down a police station. See, those are the easy jobs. Opsecless boomers who post their lives on FaceBook and do not think they’re doing anything wrong are the choice of agents who are not just hard, but are walking around hard all day. Any idiot can protect the public order or investigate arson.

  111. Polistra says:
    @Dave Pinsen

    Thank you. Ann Coulter also published something entertaining on the topic, though it reduces neatly to “Trump has a deficient character” which will surprise no one.

    https://vdare.com/articles/ann-coulter-most-disloyal-man-in-history-finally-finds-a-cause-worth-fighting-for

    • Replies: @James Braxton
  112. Dave Pinsen says: • Website
    @anon

    He also banned Twitter, as I mentioned in my post here, The Establishment Strikes Back.

    • Replies: @MEH 0910
  113. @PhysicistDave

    Russia 1905 = America 2021?

    Which means Russia 1917 = America 2033?

    The analogy is not comforting.

    It started even earlier than that. As I’ve mentioned several times here at iSteve, I strongly recommend reading Dostoyevsky’s 1871 novel Demons (sometimes also titled The Possessed or The Devils).

    Dostoyevsky lays out the whole scene already at that point: an exhausted, decadent regime infested with weak, vapid ‘liberal’ intellectuals who coddle and coo over — and then are pushed aside and supplanted by — vicious anarchist and socialist revolutionaries. It’s eye-opening stuff.

    • Replies: @Lockean Proviso
  114. Dave Pinsen says: • Website
    @Desiderius

    Jay, Loki, BAP and others thought Trump would cross the Rubicon, but that was never who Trump was. Trump’s an early Boomer who’s never had a speeding ticket – partly because he’s always had a chauffeur, but also because he’s fundamentally a law-abiding patriot. Trump had no intention of using illegal means to win a second term.

    • Agree: Desiderius, kaganovitch
    • Disagree: Corvinus
    • Replies: @Desiderius
  115. Sean says:

    George ‘I can’t Breath’ Floyd had Covid-19 antibodies (a long disease) and Fentalyl in his system. Both from Wuhan. A provincial Hubei doctor reported to authorities a SARS-like disease on Dec 27, by which time cases were multiplying, and on Dec 30, some doctors in China communicated with each other about it. On Dec 31 it was announced there were twenty-seven infected, seven of them critical, with a “viral pneumonia”. Signs of sickness in those infected with Covid-19 appear on average in 5-6 days. President Donald Trump at the Feb. 27, Coronavirus Task Force press conference:

    “I spoke with President Xi. We had a great talk. He’s working very hard, I have to say. He’s working very, very hard. And if you can count on the reports coming out of China, that spread has gone down quite a bit. The infection seems to have gone down over the last two days. As opposed to getting larger, it’s actually gotten smaller.”

    We make our own luck, at least those who keep their eyes and ears open for an opportunity to turn things that just happen to their advantage do. The reasonable expectation was that China would be careful about information they put out through the World Health Organization, especially if it was suggesting a weak at best person-to-person transmissibility by the novel Wuhan disease. Clearly, there was a danger of China understating the possible upper limit of Covid-19 transmissibility, because this would result in countries with their guard not up suddenly being hit with, not the incipient beginnings of the pandemic as totalitarian China was, but the mature thing which having exponentially grown for a month would be too big and fast for being brought under control, especially by Western liberal individualist countries like America. I for one do not discount the possibility that the idea of turning the pandemic to his advantage crossed the mind of Xi. It has been said that the greatest mystery of WW2 is why Stalin, the man who trusted no one, trusted Adolph Hitler. Trump made deals and walked away laughing time after time, but when it really mattered he was like a child. Tragic, especially for those who died.

    • Replies: @Coemgen
    , @Flubber
  116. @PhysicistDave

    ‘…I think what a lot of people fail to grasp is that, despite all the uproar in our youth — Vietnam, Civil Rights, etc. — we Boomers absorbed the idea that the USA and American institutions are fundamentally sound. Democratic institutions did end the war in Vietnam, did weather the Civil Rights transformation, did drive Nixon out of office, did allow Reagan to stabilize the country, etc.

    We went through life thinking that in the end the good guys win…’

    Yeah. It’s hard to adjust to the idea that things are getting worse, not better. That’s the biggest difference from when I was a kid (the Sixties). Back then, for all the sturm und drang, the underlying assumption was that things were, one way or another, going to keep getting better. The awful past had become the imperfect present — and we would improve on that. Lots of problems — all of which we were addressing.

    Now? Not so much. It’s actually become a matter of fighting for your preferred dystopia. Things will get worse — it’s just a matter of which things, and how much worse.

    • Replies: @Tex
  117. LondonBob says:

    Trump’s luck is losing to clear fraud whilst handing over an economy on the verge of collapse. The Dems are freaking out because they know seventy five million Americans voted against them and no one really wants Biden, and certainly not Harris. If people are angry now imagine how angry they will be when the full bill for Democrat lockdowns are revealed.

    • Replies: @Redman
  118. @Jack D

    Watched the video of the shooting- it did not look like Capitol Police, no matter what the official reports say. The shooter was firing from a corner, and wearing a suit with cuff links. Shooter was probably Secret Service for Pence or some other kind of special security detail for other high profile Congress members. It’s possible it was a plainclothes Capitol Police officer but it’s weird that he did not communicate with the other Capitol police officers, who were all over the place around Babbit prior to the shot. In fact Capitol Police initially seem confused by the incident, and the closet one actually points his weapon in the general direction of the shooter for a few seconds.

    Not spreading conspiracies, just genuinely unsure what the real deal was.

  119. LondonBob says:
    @PhysicistDave

    I would say Russia 1917, the Bolsheviks managed to seize power but knew they were an unpopular minority so quickly enacted severe repression, one of which was banning alternative sources of information like newspapers.

  120. He looks like Race Bannon, but Pence
    lost his bottle when things got intense;
    now he wears the red badge
    of the menstr’ating vadge,
    got for trying to straddle the fence.

    • Replies: @JerseyJeffersonian
  121. I wrote the following comment under Jared Taylor’s recent article, but I’ll put it here too:

    Here’s what all the insurrection and Federal charges talk is about. These Trump supporters (and it was about more than Trump) had the gall to oppose Anarcho-Tyranny.

    We all know, even those on the left with this fake outrage, that the maybe slightly exuberant crowd that spent some time in the People’s House did nothing near what the BLM thugs and anifa Commies have been doing all over the country for 8 months. Those in that fun crowd at the Capitol were not bitter, mean, useful idiots or stupid worthless thugs like the thugs and Commies. They didn’t purposefully burn things down, trash things just to trash them, or loot anything.

    We have seen different from the other side since May of last year. Police have been ordered to stand down. Many thousands of people who loot and vandalize have been not been charged with anything. (This is not to even mention Charlottesville and later the Proud Boys in NYC.) We all see the Anarcho-Tyranny all around.

    The left does not want the right to have any say in what goes on in American politics. They want the Anarcho-Tyranny to continue. They will not put up with any patriotic Americans resisting the Anarcho-Tyranny by doing any little bit of what the left gets away with. This is why they want to come down hard on the Capitol Gang. The whole political fight is one-sided right now, and they aim to keep it that way.

    • Replies: @By-tor
  122. I just read a hundred comments on this article and not one of you geniuses mentioned the New World Order. Do you have any idea what we’re actually dealing with here? It is Satanic. Read the 300-plus year history on this subject and get back to me. Sheesh. We must really have earned this.

    • LOL: Jonathan Mason
  123. @Cope

    “BLM is not and has never been a terrorist group… Now the right-wing mass shooting at the synagogue could be qualified as a terrorist act.”

    14 cops shot in Dallas at a BLM march on 7/7/2016 a few hours after Obama’s speech from Poland about police brutality — I realize that event has been memoryholed, but that was only the most spectacular of quite a number of shootings of cops and/or white people by blacks worked up over BLM.

    • Replies: @Cope
    , @Peter Akuleyev
  124. @Buzz Mohawk

    Don’t forget, the US government considers mail-in voting evidence that fraud has probably occurred in foreign elections.

  125. @AKAHorace

    Could Trump have done better with the moderate middle of white voters by being closer to the mainstream on how to handle Covid-19 ?

    Yes- state governors who were Covid pragmatists did well in November, even a Dem in a red state like NC. Trump really read the pandemic wrong and could’ve handled testing and medical supply allocation a lot better while still trolling on his early call to stop flights from China and other travel restrictions.

    Kneecapping the post office was also a really stupid move that accomplished nothing but pissing off voters everywhere. It actually gave cover for delayed postal ballots to appear after election day. Rural and small town people and small online businesses like ebay sellers were really affected, so who knows how many decided not to turn out to vote?

  126. On one hand, the BLM riot a week before the election in Philadelphia might have helped Trump pick up his 2 points over 2016 there. But in Minnesota, where the Democrats got much retail burned to the ground, Trump fell by five points over 2016.

    In my opinion, this shows that American white voters are doomed (if something unexpected doesn’t happen). It is easy to analyze Trump’s faults & missteps; but, if you don’t have a basic self-preservation instinct, you’re lost. You have no future.

    Voting for Trump -actually voting, not abstaining – means survival. If one group of people, and in this case it means non-idiotic whites & most of normal, working POC, chooses to vote for someone who rides on Woke ideology, and does it without coercion- then, these people are possessed by a cognitive dissonance & they are historically doomed.

    And it doesn’t matter whether you’ve seen riots, burning, freaks wilding & looting with your own eyes. Everyone in the US has seen that; and, I’ve seen commenting contemptuously on the rabble in most free comments in various Web sources & news, in a few languages & all around the globe. More then 90% were- to hell with George Floyd, lazy unruly blacks & white stoned punks. And, I am certain, virtually all people would have voted accordingly, Trump being perceived as an imperfect foe to anarchist trash as a pathetic “army” of globalist plutocrats & oligarchs.

    In sum- white Americans have, as yet, a death wish.

  127. @The Last Real Calvinist

    I’m reading the Pevear & Volokhonsky translation now. This book was mentioned in the bibliography and sounds interesting if I can locate a copy- might need to renew my public borrowers card at the state university:

    The Perverted Ideal in Dostoevsky’s The Devils

    Nancy K. Anderson

    “…recognition of a central theme of Dostoevsky’s thought: the human need of and search for an ideal transcending the needs and demands of one’s own self. Such an ideal may be expressed in many spheres – in religion, in the relations between human beings, and in aesthetics. As this work demonstrates,The Devils is a powerful psychological and sociological study of what occurs when the ideal of transcendence is denied in each of these spheres and a perverted ideal – an anti-ideal – is set up in its place.”

  128. “Now obviously, Mr. Smith Goes to Washington wasn’t going to happen. The Trump Reality Distortion field doesn’t extend that far.”

    Unlike It’s a Wonderful Life, Capra’s Mr. Smith Goes to Washington is a definite masterpiece, a true bona fide classic all the way. It’s timely message, that one man alone can make a difference if he’s got the courage of his convictions, still holds up in motivating people to do better for themselves when facing near impossible odds. One could make a case that Stewart should’ve played George Bailey around the time of Mr. Smith; in 1939 he was in fact closer to Bailey’s actual age in Wonderful Life, whereas in 1946 he was getting long in the tooth to be playing boyish idealists when he was pushing 40.

  129. @Colin Wright

    Colin Wright wrote to me:

    If we stood up for our perfectly reasonable expression of outrage and demanded that charges be filed forthwith against the black cop who shot a white woman for simple trespass, we would be winning.

    You having much luck with that?

    Yeah, I think Ashli Babbitt was murdered. I’m willing to hear contrary evidence, but barring contrary evidence, she was murdered. How many people in the public sphere are willing to say that? Not even Tucker, I think. Or Trump.

    I’m a physicist turned engineer — I just say what I think and I do not much care whether others agree. But I have noticed that most people do not work that way. Are people where you live different?

    • Agree: Prester John
    • Replies: @Bardon Kaldian
    , @nebulafox
  130. Cope says:
    @Steve Sailer

    14 cops shot in Dallas at a BLM march on 7/7/2016 a few hours after Obama’s speech from Poland about police brutality

    You see, that was not difficult at all. That event could indeed also be qualified as a terrorist act, but that does not mean *again* BLM is a terrorist group.

    14 cops shot in Dallas and a number of Whites shot elsewhere by angry loony Blacks does not make BLM a terrorist group. Are we going full retard or what? Stop with this ridiculous nonsense. Terrorists are terrorists, period. Stop playing in the hands of TPTB with trying to modify the meaning of the word “terrorism” to use it as a weapon against your opponents.

    In the same way, 11 Jews killed by an angry loony White does not make the “Rise Above Movement” and “Proud Boys” terrorist groups either (Bowers seemingly supported both groups)

    Again, stop with this demonising propaganda nonsense, for the same tactics are being used as we speak against White Nationalists, who are being also demonised with the label “White Supremacists” and many interest groups – some of them ethnic – are lobbying to get them labeled as “domestic terrorists.”

    And, flash news, this are organisations with actual power, and part of the “good guys team” in the present Narrative. Unlike White Nationalists, and that includes you and your “hate inciting” HBD content. Could you then be demonised and labeled as a “White Supremacist” ideologue?

  131. GSR says:

    Steve’s last paragraph is spot on. But it still remains, was there more than usual voter fraud in this election? There needs to be a serious study done about it. I believe there was but it needs to be done by come credible people/organizations.

  132. Jimbo says:
    @Joe Biden's Brain

    I thought the event was a disaster. I looked and the scene afterward, and there was not a single congressional head on a pike anywhere on the capitol grounds! Incompetents!

  133. Spud Boy says:
    @Voltarde

    My neighbor has one of those posted too. I got into a heated debate with them over a few glasses of wine one night when I noted they recently moved here to Georgia, escaping the hell hole that is New York state, and now they’re going to vote Blue in Georgia.

    The idea that Georgia went blue in 2020 and now has two Democratic senators is mind boggling.

  134. @Polistra

    Trump tweeted on Dec. 20. “Big protest in DC on January 6th. Be there, will be wild!” This message spread fast on pro-Trump forums and there was a lot of people that organized around it

  135. @Mike_from_SGV

    No court has yet allowed them to present the facts.

    Did you even read the Navarro reports?

    • Agree: Polynikes
  136. Trump supporters had behaved throughout 2020 with vastly more respect for the law than anti-Trump elements.

    That wasn’t the perception in the suburbs, which is probably why Trump lost. The idea that right-wing Trump supporters were stirring up trouble with peaceful BLM marches had a lot of traction. Kyle Rittenhouse going and shooting 3 people didn’t help either, and naturally the MSM and left wing social media had a field day both with the shooting, and the outpouring of conservative support for a kid who went out of his way to go murder people in another state (the MSM narrative).

    Trump, and Trump supporters, don’t seem to realize the extent to which they lost the information war in 2020. It’s fine to tweet to your adoring fans and have Fox News broadcast to the same core audience night after night, but in a close election it is crazy not to reach outside your base, and Trump did a lousy job of that.

  137. @Voltarde

    That mantra has been circulating for a few years. It’s hilarious because every line is either trivially true or something a woke person doesn’t actually believe, they just say they do. Let’s see:

    Black lives matter – except when it’s black-on-black crime
    Women’s rights are human rights – except when a man claiming to be a woman comes along, whereupon only his rights matter
    No human is illegal – not sure what this even means, but I suspect the Uyghurs would disagree
    Science is real – except when it talks about differences between women and men, or races, or the effects upon societal functioning of large incursions of foreigners with incompatible cultures, or …
    Love is love – um, yeah?
    Kindness is everything – apparently ‘kindness’ now encompasses burning down and looting cities, driving people out of their jobs or university placements, obsessively combing social media in order to dogpile on someone etc. They weren’t joking about it being everything.

    P.S. I think the ‘love is love’ line refers to same sex marriage which is as stupid as the rest of them. Nobody opposing that was bothered by whether the couple were in love or not because that wasn’t the point at issue.

  138. @Mr. Anon

    Just how many federal judges have blocked Trump’s executive orders on the border wall construction, foreign worker visas, immigration and asylum restrictions, et al.??

    Trump signed an executive order on immigration and asylum restriction mere days after being sworn in as President and was drawing up plans for the border wall and the budget for it in Congress (who holds the purse strings). Within one week a federal judges was blocking his executive order.

    That have never let up in all 4 years.

    A U.S. District Court judge in Brooklyn, N.Y., blocked part of President Trump’s executive order on immigration… The ruling by Judge Ann Donnelly of the U.S. District Court for the Eastern District of New York at least temporarily halted the deportation of people with valid visas or approved refugee papers who had reached the United States, and of others still in transit…

    https://www.truthdig.com/articles/federal-judge-blocks-part-of-trumps-immigration-ban-2/

    When Trump was essentially blocked by Congress to fund the border wall (even within his own party) he attempted to make an end run and use money budgeted for DOD. A federal judge blocked that. The federal judge essentially said that the President can only build a border wall with Congressional approval and appropriations.

    Federal Judge Blocks Trump’s Border-Wall Plans
    In first ruling on the issue, judge writes executive branch’s plans to divert funds for wall exceeded its authority

    U.S. District Judge Haywood Gilliam in Oakland, Calif., said President Trump’s plans to divert federal money to build a border wall, absent appropriations from Congress, exceeded the executive’s authority.

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/federal-judge-blocks-trumps-border-wall-plans-11558747967

    Trump tried to get around that by invoking national security reasons (drug interdiction) from the military budget. A federal judge blocked that.

    Judge rules Trump violated the law on wall funding with national emergency

    A federal judge ruled Friday that President Donald Trump violated federal law when he used his declaration of a national emergency to get millions for building a wall on the southern border…

    Federal District Court Judge David Briones said the president’s order violated a provision of the budget law approved by Congress which said “none of the funds made available in this or any other appropriation may be used to increase” the funding for the wall project.

    “The president’s proclamation is unlawful,” Briones wrote.

    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/immigration/judge-rules-trump-violated-law-wall-funding-national-emergency-n1065216

    And just last week another federal judge blocked Trump’s asylum ban. So within one week of entering office and one week before leaving office a federal judge has blocked an executive order on immigration by President Trump.

    So, how exactly does Trump get around rulings by federal judges?? The federal appeals process takes over a year (and federal judges would slow walk any Trump appeal). Assuming Trump would once again be ruled against by a federal judges on the Appellate court getting a case heard by the Supreme Court is time consuming, not guaranteed, and at best a coin toss.

    Trump made numerous and unique attempts to build the border wall, restrict immigration, end asylum, block travel from hostile lands, etc.

    But I guess he was expected to do more while fending off Deep State and Russian Collusion Hoax special prosecutions and impeachment trials and members of his own political party working against him and…

  139. @Polistra

    Maybe we shouldn’t let unpleasant childless spinsters lecture me on the future of the country.

  140. Anonymous[520] • Disclaimer says:
    @Dave Pinsen

    Agree. I was disappointed with Coulter’s 180-degree nasty turning on Trump. And all over the border wall? As if that really affects her life as much as the immigration (legal and illegal) that comes through airports every hour of every day.

    Just how many federal judges have blocked Trump’s executive orders on the border wall construction, foreign worker visas, immigration and asylum restrictions, et al.??

    Trump signed an executive order on immigration and asylum restriction mere days after being sworn in as President and was drawing up plans for the border wall and the budget for it in Congress (who holds the purse strings). Within one week a federal judges was blocking his executive order.

    That have never let up in all 4 years.

    A U.S. District Court judge in Brooklyn, N.Y., blocked part of President Trump’s executive order on immigration… The ruling by Judge Ann Donnelly of the U.S. District Court for the Eastern District of New York at least temporarily halted the deportation of people with valid visas or approved refugee papers who had reached the United States, and of others still in transit…

    https://www.truthdig.com/articles/federal-judge-blocks-part-of-trumps-immigration-ban-2/

    When Trump was essentially blocked by Congress to fund the border wall (even within his own party) he attempted to make an end run and use money budgeted for DOD. A federal judge blocked that. The federal judge essentially said that the President can only build a border wall with Congressional approval and appropriations.

    Federal Judge Blocks Trump’s Border-Wall Plans
    In first ruling on the issue, judge writes executive branch’s plans to divert funds for wall exceeded its authority

    U.S. District Judge Haywood Gilliam in Oakland, Calif., said President Trump’s plans to divert federal money to build a border wall, absent appropriations from Congress, exceeded the executive’s authority.

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/federal-judge-blocks-trumps-border-wall-plans-11558747967

    Trump tried to get around that by invoking national security reasons (drug interdiction) from the military budget. A federal judge blocked that.

    Judge rules Trump violated the law on wall funding with national emergency

    A federal judge ruled Friday that President Donald Trump violated federal law when he used his declaration of a national emergency to get millions for building a wall on the southern border…

    Federal District Court Judge David Briones said the president’s order violated a provision of the budget law approved by Congress which said “none of the funds made available in this or any other appropriation may be used to increase” the funding for the wall project.

    “The president’s proclamation is unlawful,” Briones wrote.

    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/immigration/judge-rules-trump-violated-law-wall-funding-national-emergency-n1065216

    And just last week another federal judge blocked Trump’s asylum ban. So within one week of entering office and one week before leaving office a federal judge has blocked an executive order on immigration by President Trump.

    So, how exactly does Trump get around rulings by federal judges?? The federal appeals process takes over a year (and federal judges would slow walk any Trump appeal). Assuming Trump would once again be ruled against by a federal judges on the Appellate court getting a case heard by the Supreme Court is time consuming, not guaranteed, and at best a coin toss.

    Trump made numerous and unique attempts to build the border wall, restrict immigration, end asylum, block travel from hostile lands, etc.

    But I guess he was expected to do more while fending off Deep State and Russian Collusion Hoax special prosecutions and impeachment trials and members of his own political party working against him and…

  141. MEH 0910 says:
    @obwandiyag

    One word: Agents provocateurs

    • Replies: @anon
  142. Jack D says:
    @anonymous

    I saw riots that were ten times more violent than this on TV this summer and the media kept calling them “mostly peaceful protests” no matter how many businesses they burned down and how much stuff they looted. So there seems to be a double standard as to whether something is a “mostly peaceful protest” or an “armed insurrection”.

  143. Anonymous[299] • Disclaimer says:
    @Dave Pinsen

    Agree. I was disappointed with Coulter’s 180-degree nasty turning on Trump. And all over the border wall? As if that really affects her life as much as the much greater immigration (legal and illegal) that comes through airports every hour of every day.

    Just how many federal judges have blocked Trump’s executive orders on the border wall construction, foreign worker visas, immigration and asylum restrictions, et al.??

    Trump signed an executive order on immigration and asylum restriction mere days after being sworn in as President and was drawing up plans for the border wall and the budget for it in Congress (who holds the purse strings). Within one week a federal judges was blocking his executive order.

    That have never let up in all 4 years.

    A U.S. District Court judge in Brooklyn, N.Y., blocked part of President Trump’s executive order on immigration… The ruling by Judge Ann Donnelly of the U.S. District Court for the Eastern District of New York at least temporarily halted the deportation of people with valid visas or approved refugee papers who had reached the United States, and of others still in transit…
    https://www.truthdig.com/articles/federal-judge-blocks-part-of-trumps-immigration-ban-2/

    When Trump was essentially blocked by Congress to fund the border wall (even within his own party) he attempted to make an end run and use money budgeted for DOD. A federal judge blocked that. The federal judge essentially said that the President can only build a border wall with Congressional approval and appropriations.

    Federal Judge Blocks Trump’s Border-Wall Plans
    In first ruling on the issue, judge writes executive branch’s plans to divert funds for wall exceeded its authority

    U.S. District Judge Haywood Gilliam in Oakland, Calif., said President Trump’s plans to divert federal money to build a border wall, absent appropriations from Congress, exceeded the executive’s authority.

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/federal-judge-blocks-trumps-border-wall-plans-11558747967

    Trump tried to get around that by invoking national security reasons (drug interdiction) from the military budget. A federal judge blocked that.

    Judge rules Trump violated the law on wall funding with national emergency

    A federal judge ruled Friday that President Donald Trump violated federal law when he used his declaration of a national emergency to get millions for building a wall on the southern border…

    Federal District Court Judge David Briones said the president’s order violated a provision of the budget law approved by Congress which said “none of the funds made available in this or any other appropriation may be used to increase” the funding for the wall project.
    “The president’s proclamation is unlawful,” Briones wrote.

    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/immigration/judge-rules-trump-violated-law-wall-funding-national-emergency-n1065216

    And just last week another federal judge blocked Trump’s asylum ban. So within one week of entering office and one week before leaving office a federal judge has blocked an executive order on immigration by President Trump.

    So, how exactly does Trump get around rulings by federal judges?? The federal appeals process takes over a year (and federal judges would slow walk any Trump appeal). Assuming Trump would once again be ruled against by a federal judges on the Appellate court getting a case heard by the Supreme Court is time consuming, not guaranteed, and at best a coin toss.

    Trump made numerous and unique attempts to build the border wall, restrict immigration, end asylum, block travel from hostile lands, etc.

    But I guess he was expected to do more while fending off Deep State and Russian Collusion Hoax special prosecutions and impeachment trials and members of his own political party working against him and…

  144. V. Hickel says:
    @Jonathan Mason

    Some countries have a population unsuited to [rule of law], so its not for everyone. Suppose an ordinary citizen, lets call him J. Mason..no thats too specific. How about Jon M. Suppose Jonathan M has his car stolen. Or, God forbid, his child kidnapped and murdered.

    If he calls the police, or tries to do anything about it, what should happen next is that he should be designated a terrorist and sent to gulag. Another alternative would be to have him blacklisted from any employment or commercial activity.

    • Thanks: Achmed E. Newman
  145. @Thomas

    plus supposedly Giuliani today

    It’s real, mr. ‘Trial by combat’ Giuliani got shafted by the king shafter that Nasty, grifting SOB Trump who has life long track record of being an utter bastard. Ann Coulter reports that Trump was ashamed of his supporters during the riot and called them low class based on the clothes they wore. Shameful how you built a personality cult around this low class, low character, unserious, uncultured tasteless phony creep. It says a lot about you that you all fell for such a conman.

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/jan/14/trump-refusing-to-pay-rudy-giuliani-legal-fees-after-falling-out

  146. @Steve Sailer

    We should distinguish between angry mob violence and terrorism. The Dallas murders seem to fall in the former group. It takes money and organization to be a “terrorist” organization. Not surprisingly, there have been very few black-managed terrorist organizations historically. Also not surprising that Germans, Japanese and Russians produced very famous terrorists, or that Islamic terrorism has boatloads of money behind it.

    • Replies: @ben tillman
  147. @Jack D

    What is the approximate number of police who were killed in BLM demonstrations?

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @Jack D
  148. botazefa says:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    They won’t come take the guns directly. Of that you can be assured. They will get the ammo first, if anything

    I hadn’t thought of that before and I think you could be correct. There’s no right to manufacture and sell arms in the constitution, not explicitly anyway. A packed SCOTUS could theoretically ignore the Constitution’s implicit right to manufacture and sell.

    And, it occurs to me that the 2nd Amendment may be a liability. Folks lean on that crutch of falsely believing guns give them ability to overthrow the government or protect themselves from oppression. This false belief obscures the reality that government firepower is overwhelming and small arms stand no chance. Better not to have a 2nd Amendment because it keeps people’s heads out of fantasies and allows them to focus on the true revolutionary tactics of sabotage, mass strikes, tax evasion, etc.

    A general strike would send a powerful message, but our ability to cooperate and coordinate one is unfortunately mediated by Twitter and Facebook. Our ability to meet in person is hampered by lockdowns and our children being stuck at home.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  149. @J.Ross

    Pretty good, tbh. He would have won in 2016 as well.

    • LOL: Polynikes
  150. @Ripple Earthdevil

    Once the powers that be endorsed absentee/mail-in voting en masse Trump’s chances for re-election were virtually nil. Absentee voting was never intended to serve relatively small groups i.e. military stationed overseas, people living or working overseas etc. so what unfolded thereafter doesn’t surprise. Yes, the vote was indeed probably stolen but…the issue will never be adjudicated in the courts so it doesn’t matter. The real danger now is that this practice may now have become SOP.

  151. @Jack D

    “Armed insurrection”–yet another cliche currently in the vogue among the members of the Big Media Propaganda Machine.

  152. @Voltarde

    Here in an iSteve-confirming sentiment the City of Randolph in the Great Lakes state of Morally Superior (I have changed the names not so much to protect me but to protect my earnest, Progressive neighbors from retribution), a small group of my neighbors were caucusing on my driveway apron. I was maskless but 12 feet away to hear their thoughts (yes, I am virus virtue signaling).

    The bordering City of Upton, Morally Superior, is this dreary sprawl of strip malls, car dealerships and apartment blocks affordable by graduate students commuting by bus to University of Randolph-Morally Superior, with 25 MPH speed limits on main thoroughfares with the local Gendarmerie attempting to hide behind scraggly clumps of brush. It is so dreary that the local youth, white youth, almost were charged with child pornography for circulating nude selfies amongst themselves for entertainment until that somehow got forgotten during the excitement of protestors in Randolph literally setting their hair on fire.

    The topic of conversation of neighbors with those “In this house, we believe:” signs was envy about how how the sale price of houses (I guess they are called “homes” in the real estate trade?) in neighboring Upton is “skyrocketing” and what people are bidding prices up for are “the schools.”

    Why, oh why, would your children going to school with the child pornographers in Upton be so favored over rubbing shoulders with the children of professors from the University of Randolph? Could it have anything to do my neighborhood that is on the side of Randolph bordering Upton but since, I don’t know, 2008, maybe, has a block of Section 8 housing. I drove by it the other day, and the affordable apartments aren’t that many compared to the pricier condos around them, but that portion of Randolph “shoots beyond its weight”?

    Were my earnest neighbors engaged in a cancelable, racial dog whistle? Were they engaging in doublethink? Are they really, really that naïve to not know the sad history of the phrase “good schools”? Are they “race realists”, but the “In this house,” sign is to protect the windows on one’s dwelling?

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  153. Anonymous[209] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jonathan Mason

    What is the approximate number of police who were killed in BLM demonstrations?

    Approximately 6.

    Shot dead at during BLM protests:

    Dallas Police Department: Sr. Cpl. Lorne Ahrens, age 48
    Dallas Police Department: Officer Michael Krol, age 40
    Dallas Police Department: Sgt. Michael Smith, age 55
    Dallas Area Rapid Transit Police : Officer Brent Thompson, age 43
    Dallas Police Department: Officer Patricio Zamarripa, age 32
    Federal Officer Dave Patrick Underwood, 53, DHS Federal Protective Service, Oakland, CA.

    Among the many grievously wounded police officers at BLM protests:

    Las Vegas police officer Shay Mikalonis was shot in the head during a BLM protest. Is permanently paralyzed and on a ventilator.

    Louisville Police Department’s Maj. Aubrey Gregory and Officer Robinson Desroches were shot and seriously wounded during a BLM protest.

    Approximately how many police officers were shot in the Capitol “domestic terrorist insurrection” on January 6th?
    Approximately how many shots were fired by any of the million-plus Trump supporters in D.C. on January 6th?

  154. MEH 0910 says:
    @Dave Pinsen

  155. MEH 0910 says:
    @Dave Pinsen

    Given Trump’s predilection for over-promising and under-delivering, it’s understandable that Ann Coulter held Trump’s feet to the fire. Trump then fell out with Coulter, and Coulter responded in kind.

    • Replies: @Dave Pinsen
  156. Why didn’t Trump just say that Qanon was bullshit, and his followers should stop believing it?

    Still, it was very close, with Trump coming within 34,000 votes of tying 269-269, which would have meant he’d win in a state-by-state vote in the House

    Really? Where did you get this from?

    The election was stolen quite legally, with court orders in states validating mail-in ballots. This was totally illegal, but it happened. That’s where the steal was, not Dominion.

    Trump should have seen this. He lost quite legally a rigged election. We used to call this honest graft. It’s a grand American tradition. Instead of losing like an old lion and rallying the troops for the next battle, he’s destroyed himself.

  157. @Jack D

    You’re right, but they weren’t crazy enough to storm the Capitol Building.

    And their crazy is something that normal, deluded people can buy: police brutality.

    QAnon is just nuts. Like alien abduction.

    • Replies: @Andy Ritter
  158. [Insert ritual pro-forma denunciation of mob violence in this space]

    OK, now that that’s done let me add that Congress last week got exactly what they deserved — in fact just a tiny taste of the ridicule and insolence they truly deserve. Lazy F#%@ers can’t be bothered to do a thing if it doesn’t line their own pockets or campaign coffers.

    Oh wait, impreachments they can do, those come express priority next-day delivery. But impeach all they want, that photo of Fur-Hat Dude standing at that desk is now and will remain the iconic image of our government at work.

    I yield back the remainder of my time …

    • Replies: @Cortes
  159. Jack D says:
    @Jonathan Mason

    At least 5 in Dallas during the last BLM wave.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/09/us/dallas-police-shooting.html

    No cops were killed this time unless you count heart attacks from eating too many donuts. Of course they weren’t killed because they allowed the looters to burn and steal without attempting to stop them.

    BTW, it’s not even clear what happened to the cop who died. Certainly if the “armed insurrectionists” really wanted to kill cops or kill anyone, they could have and using weapons better suited for the job than a fire extinguisher, but they didn’t.

  160. IHTG says:
    @Mr. Anon

    a populist agenda

    You use that word, but you’re missing a crucial part of it. Loyalty, loyalty beyond reason.

  161. Tex says:
    @Colin Wright

    It’s actually become a matter of fighting for your preferred dystopia.

    That’s a bleak way to put it, but truthful. Trump was useful to have around since the alternative was nothing (would Cruz have been better? Rubio? Jeb? Hillary?). Trump was a means, not an end.

    That just means we go to work with what we have. Either we are patriots capable of fighting for our beliefs, our way or life, our country, and our people, or we are nothing in particular.

    If it’s dystopia, let it be OUR dystopia.

    • Agree: Colin Wright
  162. peterike says:

    Well, if you think the Biden regime isn’t already ushering in a new era of massive state oppression, here’s a little story to focus the mind.

    https://nypost.com/2021/01/13/photos-show-armed-fbi-tank-rolling-down-queens-street/

  163. @onetwothree

    They announced all their early voting/mail-ins prior to the in-person votes, and so there was no way to “find” extra votes later.

    This practice will be outlawed well before November 2022.

  164. Trump wouldn’t have needed luck if he had simply made a good faith effort to implement the America First platform that won him the presidency in 2016.

    He promised immigration restriction, a non-interventionist foreign policy, balanced trade and populist economic policy.

    He delivered a plutocratic economic policy, pardons for a long list of criminal Jews (Rubashkin, Charles Kushner etc.), and abject subservience to Israel.

    He relied on Q-Anon “plan-trusters” to reconcile the resulting cognitive dissonance.

    And then he didn’t lift a finger to protect his supporters from Antifa / BLM violence, cynically hoping the anti-Antifa backlash would guarantee re-election no matter what his policy failings.

    No amount of luck can keep such a rickety scam going forever.

    MAGA supporters were betrayed by Donald J. Kushner, lied to by Q, and battered by Antifa / BLM.

    Confused and tormented, they finally lashed out.

  165. Rob McX says:
    @PhysicistDave

    Good comment, but I’d argue that today’s American ruling class despises the common people far more than the Russian aristocracy did the Russian masses. The Russian elite at least didn’t want to replace the peasantry with imported aliens of other races. The Germans that commenter Thomas refers to were fellow Europeans who made a valuable contribution to the modernisation of Russia.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
  166. nsa says:
    @J.Ross

    “Screwing over Third Parties………”
    Greenie voters like humble nsa really do have a legitimate complaint, unlike all you whining girlie MAGAstinians. The Green Party was excluded from the ballot in over 20 states….punishment for syphoning 1.5 million votes from the D witch in 2016. As a result, our Greenie vote total decreased to 390,000 in 2020. Next time….vote for the Frog, not the Hog…..vote for the Bird, not the Turd.

  167. @Voltarde

    The truth of each those bumper-sticker statements can be dismantled with a minimal application of logic. For example, “Science is Real.”

    –Science, as a process, is an excellent tool for getting at the truth.
    –At any given point, we don’t know where in the process we are (see: conflicting statements from scientists re COVID over the past year).
    –Science is one thing and scientists are another. Scientists may differ. Which one is “real”?
    –People, especially activists, politicians, and the media often misrepresent science to promote their own agenda. On what basis do you judge their scientific claims?

    • Thanks: Coemgen
    • Replies: @anon
  168. Good grief a broken window or two is hardly comparable to the St George riots. Trump lost because at the end of the day he has only one constituent whose name is Ivanka Trump Kushner. Her very kosher and Democrat husband was allowed to sabotage the Trump presidency, if there actually ever was a real one. The fools who protested for the Donald were devout followers of MAGA grifters, some of which are likely assets or employees of the deep state. Put it all together sounds like it was all a plan to screw the deplorable working man using a somewhat charming salesman, albeit lazy and foolish one.

  169. anon[682] • Disclaimer says:
    @Altai

    What’s Stephen Colbert going to do now that Trump is gone?

    Continue to blame every bad thing on the lingering effects of Trump, the shadow of the Trumpian legacy, the wreckers inspired by secret conspiratorial cabals of Trump followers.

    “Emmanuel Trumpstein”, in short.

  170. botazefa says:
    @Colin Wright

    You just do it. If we stood up for our perfectly reasonable expression of outrage and demanded that charges be filed forthwith against the black cop who shot a white woman for simple trespass, we would be winning.

    Sorry, but if I did that my employer would fire me.

  171. anon[682] • Disclaimer says:
    @Harry Baldwin

    The truth of each those bumper-sticker statements can be dismantled with a minimal application of logic. For example, “Science is Real.”

    Waste of time. Appeasement stickers are emotional statements, not rational. The sign even contradicts itself to some degree, doesn’t matter because libtards have no problem with cognitive dissonance.

    “Science is real” – religious statement of faith, no logic involved.
    “Race is real” – scientific statement that invokes emotional rage, no logic involved.

  172. Thirdtwin says:

    I agree with your hinterlands/DC analysis, but you ignored the antifa/false flag factor completely. In the “hinterlands”, the rallies were positive and celebratory and hard to false flag or otherwise misrepresent them. The best the left could do was pick off a few rally-goers and beat them bloody while the cops watched. Really bad optics. Then the left tried to false flag attendance by reserving tickets never to be used. And that only worked once. The left never had any success against the rallies until they got the shut down due to Covid.

    What you’re missing most in your analysis is how the Capitol Hill job was a massive replay of Charlottesville, with the Antifa shock troops playing the part of Jason Kessler’s Tiki Torchers. Biden rode the consequent “Fine People” hoax all the way to election day. Now the leftists will ride the “Insurrection Incitement” hoax all the way to 2022 and beyond.

  173. Coemgen says:
    @Sean

    The Democrats and online businesses such as Amazon have turned “the pandemic to their advantage.” As Jane Fonda noted, it was a gift from God to the Democrats.

    It is very convenient that the pandemic started just as the impeachment failed. Note that it failed when impeachment witnesses testified (under oath) that the Bidens appeared to have a “conflict of interest” in Ukraine, that U.S. foreign policy is set by something called “the interagency,” and that they did not have evidence that Donald Trump committed an impeachable crime.

    Are you familiar with terminology such as biological warfare and asynchronous warfare?

    Do you believe in coincidences?

    • Replies: @Coemgen
  174. @J.Ross

    What were Biden’s odds of winning an election in which any rules of any kind were enforced at all?

    Pretty good, I’d say. Going in, I expected (feared) a Biden landslide. I buy that Biden’s vote totals were inflated; I don’t buy that the Republicans’ hands are clean. 11 million more votes for Trump than he got in 2016 doesn’t pass the sniff test.

    Four years ago, Trump’s supporters were energized to the max; that’s a big reason he won. If you supported Trump, the only way you didn’t vote for him was if you broke your leg on the way to the polls. Since then, a lot of those voters have been disappointed in him; you can see examples in the comment threads of any Unz post which has anything at all to do with Trump. Most of those people held their noses and voted for Trump anyway, but surely some stayed home.

    Seniors were among Trump’s staunchest supporters, and many of them died between 2016 and now, either of Covid or old age. Newly eligible voters are mostly young and/or immigrants, neither of which is a major source of Trump support.

    Borrom line: for Trump to even equal his 2016 vote total, much less exceed it by 11 million, he had to get votes from people who voted for Clinton. In a country as big as ours I’m sure there were a few such, but do you know any? Lots of my acquaintances voted for Clinton, and I’ve never heard any of them say “You know, Trump isn’t so bad.”

    • Replies: @J.Ross
  175. notsaying says:
    @JohnnyWalker123

    How many mail in ballots do the other countries have? How big are they?

    We had a lot of mail in ballots this year. The county voter services departments are small. In some states the mail in ballots cannot be processed at all before the day of the election. Most of the mail in ballots were from Democrats. Trump might have won if he hadn’t told his supporters not to vote by mail.

    That is one lesson I hope everyone learned here: Never tell your supporters how to vote. Take all the votes you can get and be grateful for them.

    • Replies: @Farenheit
  176. @J.Ross

    Of course it is. In any event Trump was, and is, the third party in your theory so there’s no one but him to enforce any rules and he’s either not into that or wholly incapable of discharging the duties of his office.

    And no I’m the furthest thing from a troll. The constant passive voice used in this comment section inadvertently (?) undermines everything anyone here is trying to accomplish. It’s a giant Kick Me sign and the kicks are getting dangerous.

  177. notsaying says:
    @Jonathan Mason

    I agree with what you said about mail in ballots. But online at home voting cannot be made secure with current technology. Everybody would question results, it would be a mess.

    • Replies: @Jonathan Mason
  178. @Dave Pinsen

    Dave you’re my go to follow since I evacuated from Twitter. The utility of that tool is rapidly attenuating but you continue somehow to stay on top of most things.

    Loki and Derek were obsessed with the legal trees and couldn’t see the entire Birnam Wood on the move against us. Jared does bear an uncanny resemblance to that facial reconstruction of Augustus C that was going around but the key recognition is that there’s already an Empire in place that crossed the Rubicon a long time ago and it’s really not interested in competition and no longer sees the need to maintain the facade.

    At least for our benefit. A disillusioned 9% suits the 1% just fine.

    • Thanks: Dave Pinsen
  179. Farenheit says:
    @Jonathan Mason

    In fact we ought to have online voting too.

    Wow, just Wow! That way we can have 14 year old hackers in their parent’s basement in Ukraine putting their fingers on the scales…

  180. Anon[217] • Disclaimer says:
    @Bragadocious

    The people who work for Trump often show little loyalty to him. He’s been backstabbed by a government full of employees who show nothing but the urge to do him in.

    Loyalty is supposed to work both ways. Besides, some of those protesters appear to be Antifa or professional rabble-rousers instead of true Trump loyalists. The guy who carried off Nancy’s podium didn’t even vote for Trump.

  181. Farenheit says:
    @notsaying

    We had a lot of mail in ballots this year. The county voter services departments are small. In some states the mail in ballots cannot be processed at all before the day of the election.

    In California, if you know a person’s name and their social security number, you can check a web site and see if they were mailed a ballot.

    My sister in law was mailed one……she committed suicide in 2015.

  182. Redman says:
    @Matt Buckalew

    Coulter’s take today was particularly disconcerting. She’s normally very smart and witty. Today’s column, sadly, dripped with useless vitriol with no edifying purpose.

    Many like Coulter were under the naive impression that a new POTUS has the ability to fight and exterminate the toxic DC swamp by virtue of having won a single election. She’s dismayed that Trump did not fulfill some of his bigger goals (e.g. immigration enforcement, the Wall, etc.); and she uses the example of Trump’s pro-Zionist successes to suggest either (1) the innate power of the Presidency, or (2) Trump’s excessive focus on appeasing the Israel lobby. Pro-Zionist policies, unlike immigration, have had bi-partisan and huge popular support for a long time. It is pretty easy to execute policies with little or no institutional opposition.

    Coulter also buys into the ruse that Trump somehow “incited” the storming of the Capital by words about Pence spoken during his speech preceding it. Among the events scheduled in Congress, Pence’s portion was minimal. Trump’s calling Pence a coward is a mere truism, and a meaningless insult. Not words of incitement. I find it risible that anyone could have been roused to riot over a bland nonentity like Mike Pence, regardless of what he did or didn’t do.

    The evidentiary and legal claims/challenges of the election to be made by Cruz and Hawley (among others) were the meat of the day’s program. And not unexpectedly was what got shut down by the Capitol events. Those speeches were to be covered live and would likely have synthesized the election fraud evidence for the world to see. And by highly trained appellate lawyer in Ted Cruz. The real goal at this point was to educate the people, not to overturn the election. This was what TPTB feared most.

    Today, Coulter just sounds more like a bratty little girl who didn’t get her way from daddy warbucks.

  183. anon[327] • Disclaimer says:

    Trump did not lose the election.

    Trump lost the coup (maybe, still few days left for finality).

    Ashli Babbit was assassinated by the scared to insure
    the coup would be successful.

    Cops in front, cops to the side, cops in back,
    agitators in the middle.

    Ashli was taken out.

    5 dancing shlomos

  184. Redman says:
    @Bragadocious

    Hard to stomach Coulter’s tantrum, which I assume is what you are referring to.

    https://www.takimag.com/article/most-disloyal-man-in-history-finally-finds-a-cause-worth-fighting-for/

    How exactly is fighting for a forensic analysis of election fraud in the biggest election in US history showing disloyalty? How does that supposedly “sell out” his supporters? Only if you buy Coulter’s utterly illogical and overly emotional analysis of the events of 1/6/20.

    Her point appears to be based on: (1) Trump didn’t walk on water to get The Wall built or soldiers sent back home, and (2) an unnamed “Trump advisor” told a “New York Magazine” reporter that Trump made nasty some nasty comments insulting his voters:

    Trump was delighted by the mob he’d unleashed on the Capitol, but according to sources, appalled by how badly dressed they were. He “expressed disgust on aesthetic grounds over how ‘low class’ his supporters looked,” one Trump adviser told New York magazine, adding, “He doesn’t like low-class things.”

    After 4 plus years of gaslighting and outright lying from the MSM (and particularly sources like New York Magazine), Ann now is going to take them at their word. While writing her next piece on “disloyalty,” Ann might benefit from looking into a mirror.

    • Replies: @MarkinLA
    , @DanHessinMD
  185. vinteuil says:
    @AKAHorace

    Could Trump have done better with the moderate middle of white voters by being closer to the mainstream on how to handle Covid-19 ?

    What are you talking about? What was the “mainstream” and how did Trump differ from it?

    So far as I can tell, he pretty much did everything Anthony Fauci wanted him to do.

    • Agree: Harry Baldwin
    • Replies: @epebble
  186. @Yojimbo/Zatoichi

    But a few kind words for a former veteran like Ashli Babbit. If the Left can lionize a disgusting piece of garbage like Rachel Corrie, than the Right can have their Ashli Babbit.

    Miss Corrie was a “freedom rider”. The Schwerner and Goodman of her generation!

    • Replies: @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
    , @Jack D
  187. By-tor says:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    It does appear to remain a one-sided fight at the present. The capitol zone in Wash., DC now resembles a military camp. The rare letter issued by the Joint Chiefs of Staff this week related to events on Jan. 6th, 2021 shows that the upper deck Pentagon officer corps fully agrees with the Establishment’s vote fraud and Biden’s ‘inauguration’. The 75 plus-million people who voted for Trump are supposed to be intimidated and further cowered by this display.

  188. vinteuil says:
    @Lace the Artist Formerly Known as Race

    You’re amazed at how minimal the damage was? You can’t believe that no legislators were harmed?

    Really? Maybe you should do some serious reassessment of your preconceptions. I didn’t find these things even mildly surprising.

    …there were definitely people telling some of the rioters where Pelosi was.

    And yet they didn’t harm a hair on her chinny-chin-chin?

    Insurrection should be made of sterner stuff!

    …the rioters were idiotic to beat up Sicknick.

    Well, did they? Where is the evidence on this? We have clear video of the BLM goon murdering Ashli Babbitt, but when it comes to Sicknick [a Trump supporter, curiously enough], it’s hard to find anything.

  189. Redman says:
    @Mr. Anon

    I wouldn’t say Ron (or Rand) Paul has been firmly against immigration per se. But even among libertarians he’s shown more sense about the need for borders and has been firmly against illegal immigration.

    Also, I can’t say how much I disagree with Coulter’s piece today, and I’ve been a huge fan of hers for years. I’d put Pat Buchanan in that category too. His homilies last week to the sanctity of the Capitol made me want to vomit. He made D.C. sound like he was talking about Mecca or the Vatican.

    Throwing an anti-Trump tantrum after a corporatist/government clampdown has begun really isn’t an effective use of time and brainpower.

    We’re all never-Trumpers now.

    Not really. Some of us would prefer to focus on ideas rather than arguing over one man’s legacy. Folks like you should just move to the side now.

    • Replies: @Matt Buckalew
    , @Mr. Anon
  190. @Jonathan Mason

    If mail-in voting got more people voting then surely that’s a good thing.

    Only if it gets people out of the country on election day. That’s what Europeans require.

    In fact we ought to have online voting too.

    Then why not just skip Congress altogether and make every bill an initiative-and-referendum?

    The Supreme Court, as well. Put Roe to the people!

  191. epebble says:
    @Thomas

    mail-in voting means for Republicans

    Utah is universal mail-in voting and has been 100% Republican (No Democratic office holder in 21st century).

    • Replies: @Jack D
    , @Reg Cæsar
  192. vinteuil says:
    @Mr. Anon

    I agree with about 90% of what St. Ann has to say in that piece – but I think she’s totally off base in her insouciance about Democrat electoral fraud. It’s not some minor thing that you just have to take for granted.

    With the vast expansion of mail-in voting under cover of the great Covid-19 panic, Democrat electoral fraud has become an existential issue for (what little is left of) the American constitutional republic. And it’s an issue that’s in the process of red-pilling millions of voters who had literally no idea that the sort of thing that went down in Fulton County GA under the cover of darkness is just standard operating procedure for the Democrat party.

  193. epebble says:
    @vinteuil

    A $0.05 piece of cloth on his face (and a few bromides occasionally) and this column won’t be there.

  194. vinteuil says:
    @AnotherDad

    The most important thing regarding Trump now:

    That we develop an aggressive conservative populist nationalist politics without Trump.

    Yes & no. “An aggressive conservative populist nationalist politics?” Yes. “Without Trump?” No.

    Like it or not, Trump has the charisma, and the following, to give life to such a movement, should he so choose. Who else does?

  195. Redman says:
    @AnotherDad

    Another Dad-

    I agree with the general concept of wishing Trump had said more about certain issues. Many of those you mention. But I have a hard time believing it would have made a difference. The MSM has the megaphone and have twisted everything Trump has said from day 1 (e.g. “There were good people on both sides”).

    He still got a record 75M votes, including the highest percentage of black votes by any GOP candidate since Nixon in 1960. I don’t think there were many potential Trump voters insufficiently motivated. He pretty much got every last possible one. Saying those things may have made “you and me” feel better about him but wouldn’t have translated into more votes, and certainly not fewer votes for Biden.

    You’ve consistently said we need to separate into different countries. I agree. But Trump saying a few more things that we all agree on wasn’t going to persuade the other side-who hates us- in any way. If anything, I always took that as your message.

  196. vinteuil says:
    @anonymous

    This looks peaceful to you?

    Thanks for the video.

    So what we see in the first 30 seconds here is supposed to be the murder of Brian Sicknick? This guy tossing what looks like a fire extinguisher in the general direction of the cops?

    Is the guy throwing the fire extinguisher MAGA? Is the guy who gets hit Brian Sicknick?

    Was Brian Sicknick subsequently beaten by MAGA guys, as some here have claimed?

    Isn’t it interesting that all five of the people who died in the course of this supposed insurrection were Trump supporters?

    • Agree: ben tillman
    • Replies: @Joseph Doaks
  197. Wasn’t there supposed to be some kind of wall or something? Maybe that has something to do with Trump’s loss.

    Basically, Trump bet on the 99.9999999% peaceful protests distracting people from the issue that put him in the white house in the first place.

  198. @Peter Akuleyev

    We should distinguish between angry mob violence and terrorism. The Dallas murders seem to fall in the former group.

    The Dallas murders were premeditated and executed by a single gunman who was sequestered far from any mob.

    • Replies: @Peter Akuleyev
  199. Redman says:
    @Jonathan Mason

    1 person was shot and killed by a cop, 1 cop was (allegedly) killed as a result of getting hit with a fire extinguisher, and 3 people diedof unspecific “medical reasons.”

    A crowd this size and age (i.e. not very young and healthy) might have had more “medical emergencies” at a Who concert.

    You need to be more precise.

  200. I don’t get it, Steve.

    Don’t you realize that dismissively saying, “after Congress has been enlightened about Benford’s Law, bellwether counties, and other such matters” is highly offensive to the vast majority of your readers who believe there is strong evidence to support that this election was fraudulent? Why do that?

    To take just one point, in previous elections, mail in/absentee ballots generally had a 2+% rejection rate (sometimes much higher). In this election, in the swing states that matter, the rejection rate was a lot closer to 0, even though there were many more people voting by mail and you’d think more opportunity for people not to follow proper signature protocol. Weird coincidence? Why would Republican leadership in Georgia deny signature audits if they really wanted their party to win? The future son in law of the Georgia governor dying in a fiery car explosion that could be a heard a mile away when the governor seemed to waiver on signature audits was just another weird coincidence, right, Steve? Those thousands of witnesses must have made stuff up–and it’s perfectly normal for vote tabulation machines to sometimes switch votes (always to Biden). Nothing wrong with sending Republican poll watchers away and counting while they are gone. Sure there are decades old rumors of corruption in cities with entrenched Dem machines like Detroit and Philly, but no way it could actually affect the election outcome in the good ol’ US of A in 2020, right? How dense can you get?

    • Replies: @Noticer of things
  201. @Reg Cæsar

    And a disgusting, total piece of garbage. The system chewed and spit her out like she was dirt scum. At least Ashli Babbit was (indirectly) standing up for her own people. An honest, heartfelt, loyalty to the traditional core of what was once known as the United States of America.

  202. @Reg Cæsar

    “Put Roe to the people!”

    Sure. Thousands of shrieking harpies, as if on cue: “But, but, but, stare decisis!” They’re all so proud of themselves, they learned a new word (well, two words), and it’s Latin to boot, just like the real Latins speak…

    I’ve ruined more than a few nice NYC social gatherings over the years, by pointing out — when some termagant defends Roe by saying something like, “women have come to rely on it; whole social ecosystems have grown up that depend on its preservation” — that from that perspective, legal abortion sounds remarkably like legalized segregation in the South, between Plessy and Brown, an interregnum of 56 years.

    At least I now know exactly how long it takes an otherwise attractive Jewish woman to turn into the second coming of Bella Abzug: five seconds, rictus of hate and all. You can take away their Bloomingdale’s charge cards, but don’t mess with their stare decisis.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  203. Flubber says:
    @Sean

    I think Xi’s plan was quite simple.

    If China was going to get a hammering from their inadvertently released virus, he was going to make sure the rest of the world got their “fair share”

    • Replies: @Sean
  204. What can you do with this?

  205. @Noticer of things

    This is from a recently released report. If even 1/4 of the documented fraud occurred (and this doesn’t include evidence that Dominion was systematically changing votes–though an independent researched concluding that counties that used Dominion were +~5% for Biden), Trump should have won the electoral college handily.

  206. @notsaying

    NoI am not a tech person but I don’t understand why it can’t be made secure.

    People can trade stocks worth millions of dollars with just a username and a password, and you never hear about massive scandals of people having their retirement accounts hacked.

    Maybe the voting industry needs to consult the financial and banking ndustries about how they keep things secure online.

    It is quite possible that mail in ballot papers do not have sufficient security factors built in, but why can that not be corrected?

    If you have your first election with mail-in votes and some problems occur, then wouldn’t you want to make improvements for the second election?

    And I don’t really get this idea that mail in votes favor Democrats over Republicans. If there are in fact lots of Republicans staying home and not voting, then they need to be educated on how to cast a vote.

    • Replies: @Flubber
    , @notsaying
  207. Jack D says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    Here is Rachel burning the American flag:

    The Arab children are looking on with bemusement. Why would that crazy bitch burn the flag of her own country? We would never do such a thing.

    • Replies: @Matt Buckalew
  208. @Daniel Williams

    But why should this be so. Is it because Republicans are incapable of sticking a vote in the mail?

    I was recently reading a discussion as to what was best, the American system of having mailboxes at the end of the yard, or the British system of having slots in the front door.

    One of the strongest arguments against the American system was the lack of security of the mail and how easy it was to steal mail. So maybe the post office needs to be reformed to improve the security of ballots and all the rest of the mail.

    • Replies: @Daniel Williams
  209. Redman says:
    @LondonBob

    And don’t forget the Dems overreaction to the 1/6/21 riots on the Hill. They can’t help themselves.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9147863/Democratic-whip-Jim-Clyburn-says-Democrats-convinced-MAGA-rioters-inside-help.html?ito=push-notification&ci=68487&si=13534066

    House members accusing GOP representatives of aiding and abetting the trespassers with taking their selfies. Although this could just be more pap for consumption by the masses.

    • Replies: @CCZ
  210. @Gary in Gramercy

    At least I now know exactly how long it takes an otherwise attractive Jewish woman to turn into the second coming of Bella Abzug: five seconds, rictus of hate and all. You can take away their Bloomingdale’s charge cards, but don’t mess with their stare decisis.

    Jewish women could exercise their “right to choose” in National Socialist Germany, couldn’t they? So the Republicans are worse on that score.

    Henekh Morgentaler so missed the reproductively progressive occupation of his native Łódź that he fought to import it to Canada. Successfully:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Morgentaler

    • Replies: @Jack D
  211. Jack D says:
    @epebble

    Utah is not Philadelphia, it’s not Detroit, it’s not Atlanta. In any big black controlled city mail in voting is an excuse to harvest ballots. Note that harvesting ballots may or may not be legal depending on how it is done and the laws of each state. But requiring in person voting in order to make fraud and ballot harvesting more difficult is a very good idea. Covid has probably changed this forever, to the Democrats advantage.

  212. @vinteuil

    You’re the bore who got me to go to all that trouble about Nadia Boulanger. Zero credibility with me, and all the things you wrote were utterly puerile and brainless. Thanks for reminding me to use Ignore on you. It has been awhile, and it will be the last, thank god.

    • LOL: vinteuil
  213. @epebble

    Utah is universal mail-in voting and has been 100% Republican (No Democratic office holder in 21st century).

    The Beehive is still run by naive Mormon Republicans, so of course it’s clean. When Democrats reach a tipping point, all hell breaks loose. Cf. Georgia.

    (BTW, that other Georgia introduced her own electoral college for her next presidential election. Hey, it’s worked for the Vatican for centuries.)

    The German court that threw out electronic voting explicitly stated that the election that brought the case was honestly run and could stand. Nevertheless, the systems were far from transparent or easy-to-understand, and voters were right to distrust them.

    They might be permitted in the future, if these defects are overcome. In other (literal) words, Auf Wiedersehen!

    • Replies: @Thomas
  214. Flubber says:
    @Jonathan Mason

    You’re missing the point.

    The whole point is to use machines that can be “manipulated” to get the desired result.

    After all, it was a Republican administration that bought the Dominion machines for Georgia.

    The two party system is a sham. The parties are two cheeks of the same arse.

    That’s why Trumps worst opponents were the RINO’s like Paul Ryan who sabotaged Trump’s first 2 years for example.

  215. Coemgen says:
    @Coemgen

    Correction: asynchronous warfare should be asymmetric warfare.

  216. @Jack D

    It’s hilarious that to a man the same people weeping for Rachel corrie are they ones that say evangelicals care to much about Israel.

    They do care too much about Israel but the problem is the weepy saint Augustine’s mourning their modern Dido are completely fixated on Palestine. At least Dido was hot.

  217. anon[339] • Disclaimer says:
    @MEH 0910

    1 hearty HAH!
    2! 2 BIG HAH HAH’s!

    • LOL: MEH 0910
  218. nebulafox says:
    @PhysicistDave

    I used to work that way. But I have regrettably become much more of an easily malleable coward over the past handful of years. Some of that was due to rotten luck and me not dealing with it well. More of it to my own mistakes and character flaws.

    Maybe that’s why I never became a physicist. 🙂

    If you want more people to be like that, not raising a generation of serfs at the mercy of others is a good first step. I’m starting to think the ancient Persians were onto something in the Zoroastrian concept of debt as evil: an indebted man has a much harder time supporting Good because he can be more prone into being railroaded or manipulated into supporting The Lie. And not just money, either. It really is evil to convince people who’ve done nothing wrong that they are forever indebted and thus must Do What They Say Or Become Heretics, in my opinion. My metaphysics need not be stated… especially with the wokeist mentality.

  219. @Redman

    Everyone who came into contact with Buckley regardless of how their relationship with him ended seems to be have imbibed of Buckley’s extreme repugnant propensity to anathematize any POV one inch to their right or one degree more radical in their tactics. Sadly even Pat wasn’t immune to this- this is the same Pat B who sat in a meeting where a plan to fire bomb the brookings institute in order to infiltrate via Plumbers dressed as fireman was floated and Pat didn’t say a word in objection. The only people immune from this are to his credit Steve Sailer and Mark Steyn- admittedly Steyn came to NR when Buckley was very much in his emeritus years and might not have interacted with him much.

    A conservatism that can win is one that will have completely thrown social climber Bill overboard.

    • Agree: Johann Ricke
  220. MEH 0910 says:

    • Replies: @Gary in Gramercy
  221. Corvinus says:

    “A year ago, a politician asked me who I thought would win the 2020 Presidential election. I said that it might come down to which side’s crazies acted out worst. For example, Black Lives Matter terrorism and rioting hurt Hillary in 2016, while the right-wing mass shooting at the Pittsburgh synagogue in just before the 2018 election helped the Democrats. As it turned out, I was wrong: the right behaved surprisingly well throughout 2020, with virtually no mass shootings or Mostly Peaceful Protests, while the anti-Trump side went nuts after Memorial Day. And Trump still lost.”

    Thanks, Mr. Sailer, for the trifecta of a false premise, gaslighting, and false comparisons all wrapped up in a neat lil’ bow!

    “But when he calls for his supporters to come to him from all across the country, the cost of travel is selecting for more extremism. So he winds up with a crowd that consists of tens of thousands of law-abiding citizens, a few thousand adventurers who are up for taking selfies inside the Capitol, a few hundred street brawlers up for for a good old fight shoving and bashing their way in, and few dozen real crazies who might or might not have done some very bad things if they’d got their hands on political enemies.”

    But when Biden and Trump calls for their supporters to come from all across the country to support a cause, the cost of travel is selecting for more extremism. So Biden and Trump winds up with a crowd that consists of tens of thousands of law-abiding citizens, a few thousand adventurers who are up for taking selfies where they are not supposed to be, a few hundred street brawlers up for for a good old fight shoving and bashing their way in, and few dozen real crazies who might or might not have done some very bad things if they’d got their hands on political enemies.

    Fixed it for you, Mr. Sailer!

  222. Anonymous[303] • Disclaimer says:

    One can over-think this stuff. Ultimately, the “siege” was a wet firecracker and (outside of a few stark images like the death of Ashli Babbit) of little import, either positive or negative. Yeah the Ministry of Propaganda made a fuss, but it would have done that in any case.

  223. Corvinus says:
    @Jack D

    You (and Sailer) are choosing not to even paying attention, or are simply turning a blind eye.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/terror-watchlist-capitol-riot-fbi/2021/01/14/07412814-55f7-11eb-a931-5b162d0d033d_story.html

    https://www.nytimes.com/live/2021/01/12/us/capitol-riot-trump/federal-authorities-warn-that-the-capitol-breach-will-be-a-significant-driver-of-violence?smtyp=cur&smid=tw-nytimes

    https://twitter.com/SethAbramson/status/1349203452753272834/photo/1

  224. notsaying says:
    @Jonathan Mason

    Well I will tell you our county went backwards on technology when it bought its brand new voting machines.

    Before they would hand you a card to put in a slot in the voting machine, you would touch the screen to make your selections, the card would record your selections and you would take the card out of the slot and return it to the poll worker.

    With the new machines, you use paper ballots and blue or black ink pens, you turn the paper ballot over to the poll worker and they scan the paper ballot and then put the scanned ballot away for safekeeping and storage.

    After the recent Russian hack I think they made a wise choice. You are right that billions flow out everyday from computers without getting hacked. I don’t know the answer but obviously we have a lot of Americans who distrust election results as it is and at home computer voting would drive them insane.

    • Replies: @Jonathan Mason
  225. @MEH 0910

    “Largely peaceful” protests. Just call her Miss 93%.

    And get a load of how she pronounces the word “conduct” as in the noun (e.g., “patterns of conduct”).

    Eric Schneiderman was a sleazeball in the Eliot Spitzer tradition, but this woman is an embarrassment as the highest law enforcement officer in the State of New York.

    At least she’s suing Warren Wilhelm, too. Will he get out of bed to retrieve the summons and complaint from his front door?

  226. @Daniel Williams

    We have postal ballots in Australia. You have to request one be sent to you though, they’re not mailed out by the truckload to everyone on the electoral roll. I think that’s the difference.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    , @epebble
  227. @Reg Cæsar

    “why not just skip Congress altogether and make every bill an initiative-and-referendum”

    Why not indeed. I can’t think of a single initiative that would overturn the current rotten system more thoroughly than that would.

  228. MEH 0910 says:
    @PhysicistDave

    You gotta have s sense of humor:

  229. MarkinLA says:
    @Redman

    (1) Trump didn’t walk on water to get The Wall built or soldiers sent back home,

    Well, if he had actually done something, you might have a point. He did nothing but talk and back down at the last minute.

  230. MarkinLA says:
    @AKAHorace

    I think Trump’s handling of Covid had less to do with his losing than Covid creating the ability to (sometimes unconstitutionally) change the voting rules to allow voting by mail, extended voting periods, and vote harvesting.

    There are millions of mostly ignorant Democrat voters the Democrats are always trying to turn out. In normal times they don’t bother. Now they voted or at least somebody did for them.

  231. @vinteuil

    “Isn’t it interesting that all five of the people who died in the course of this supposed insurrection were Trump supporters?”

    Yes, but the media are keeping quiet about that fact. And they won’t say “died” — like George Floyd, they were “killed” — you can’t call it a “deadly insurrection” unless someone was killed!

  232. J.Ross says:
    @Rob McX

    Yes, they needed and were happy to use their peasantry; between technology and enviroligion, the point of modern elite hostility is they do not want us to live.

  233. J.Ross says:
    @photondancer

    That’s the way it is legally required to work in many states here, except that, for this election, they decided that American law is a dead letter.

  234. @notsaying

    One of the problems is that the presidential election is combined with elections for a number of other positions which makes it really difficult to tally the votes without using computers.

    There should really be separate ballot papers for each race, then they could be counted much more easily.

  235. @botazefa

    You mistook my meaning, Botazefa, but that was my fault. Think about it some more, please.

    You sound as if you’ve given up already. That’s not the case for all of us.

  236. @Inquiring Mind

    I enjoyed your comment, IM. You are quite right that realtors say “homes” instead of “houses” even when they are talking about a particular detached HOUSE. “Home” sounds cozy.

    Don’t buy a “cozy” home though, unless it’s just you and a cat, because “cozy” is realtor talk for no room for all your stuff, which includes… well, let me put it this way: I may put up my own “In this home, we believe…” sign. “In this home, we believe that there’s no such thing as too big a caliber.” That may send some of the nice Section 8 neighbors down the road a little farther to where they have those other signs…

  237. epebble says:
    @photondancer

    No county in U.S. mails out ballots unasked. We have a few states with universal mail-in balloting where all elections are done by mail and they maintain strict control over voter rolls (like signature match with State database from Motor vehicle department etc.,). Audits of mail balloting states have shown better than 99.99% accuracy. In all of 20+years, Oregon (where I live) has found and prosecuted fewer than 10 cases of fraud. A few ballots, mainly those from elderly and less alert voters leak in violating address rules because they moved and didn’t re-register correctly. This is especially so here in Portland where I live because a good number of people move between States to Washington (that also has fully vote by mail) across the river.

    • Replies: @photondancer
  238. Jack D says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    I really don’t understand the focus on Jews. The pioneers of feminism and of reproductive rights were (pro-eugenic) WASPs or Catholics like Margaret Sanger. Morgentaler fought for reproductive freedom in general, including the right to birth control and vasectomy, which was opposed in Canada by the regressive (not to mention anti-Semitic) French Catholic Church which wanted to win the “battle of the cradle” and overwhelm Anglo-Saxon power in Quebec by sheer numbers. Unzers are a pretty reactionary bunch, but I haven’t heard too many here advocating for making birth control completely illegal. The most important thing about Morgentaler’s background was not that he was Jewish (1/3 of the population of Lodz was Jewish) but that he was a Bundist – a Labor Socialist. He had more in common with other Labor Socialists such as Clement Attlee than he did with most Jews.

    • Agree: Johann Ricke
    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  239. @Yojimbo/Zatoichi

    If the Left can lionize a disgusting piece of garbage like Rachel Corrie, than the Right can have their Ashli Babbit

    Did leave the best for the last sentence, disn’t you?

    For shame.

  240. J.Ross says:
    @Rex Little

    Bottom line: for Trump to even equal his 2016 vote total, much less exceed it by 11 million, he had to get votes from people who voted for Clinton

    Either you don’t know how few Americans vote, or you are presupposing that apoliticals remained apolitical in a time of unique energizing. Trump got people to vote who normally would not. Clinton and Biden raised the dead.

  241. Polynikes says:
    @J.Ross

    Almost zero. Under normal rules he wins Wisconsin and Georgia easily. I think the actual legit fraud cases were best in Nevada and AZ but he likely wins then without massive Mail in voting. I’m unsure about Michigan and Pennsylvania, but I think he takes Pennsylvania by about a point without the ballot harvesting and dumping.

  242. @Jack D

    I really don’t understand the focus on Jews.

    I don’t either, but further fail to understand its inconsistency. The harshest critics of Jews on unz.com weirdly agree with them on all sorts of things. Steve was savvy enough to detect the similarities of foreign-policy neocons and the French, who hated each other.

    The focus on “the evil Jews” is indeed cartoonish. But as long as it continues, Morgentaler’s face makes the perfect avatar.

    Who’s right, guys? The fellow with the sign, or the Jew? Have at it!

    Eugenics makes strange bedfellows.

  243. @Yojimbo/Zatoichi

    a former veteran like Ashli Babbit

    Careful there. She wasn’t a “former veteran” until she died.

    • Replies: @The Real World
  244. MEH 0910 says:
    @MEH 0910

  245. MEH 0910 says:

    Trump’s luck is now intersecting with that of luckiest/unluckiest person Joe Biden.

    https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2020/11/07/joe-biden-president-elect-personal-tragedy-political-fortune-434975

    “I have said many times, if you ask me, who is the luckiest person I have ever known? I would say Joe Biden. If you ask me, who is the unluckiest I have known? I would say Joe Biden,” Ted Kaufman, his longest-serving aide, once said in an interview for a Senate oral history.

    https://www.unz.com/isteve/biden-claims-a-mandate-on-systemic-racism/#comment-4275038

  246. @epebble

    I’ve seen a number of posts from people complaining of relatives who’ve been dead for years receiving mail-in ballots or buildings receiving boxfuls of blanks. These posts were on ‘normal’ websites, before you start sneering. The question is not whether there are rules but whether they were actually adhered to.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    , @epebble
  247. @J.Ross

    Years ago I heard John Neuhaus (remember him?) say “I don’t need a ‘slippery slope’ argument to show that Roe v. Wade led to America’s decline. I just have to look out the window.”

    I don’t need any “evidence” of “irregularities.” Anyone who thinks Biden got more votes than any Presidential candidate in history is a retard. Period.

    • Replies: @Jonathan Mason
  248. @Polynikes

    To be clear, “he” is Trump? As a MI resident, if Biden did legitimately win MI it wasn’t by the ridiculous margin that he ended up with.

  249. @Polynikes

    Nonsense about GA; it is a predominantly Red state.

    The media spins with contrived, fake narratives that they plant in every state for which an election is about to be stolen, and afterward. Mindless citizens then run around repeating the EXACT media narratives for why so-and-so won or lost. They parrot LIES.

    A few years back GA did a clever thing and Repubs seem to have been sleeping (shocker, I know). They switched to non-partisan voter registration. You literally CAN’T choose a political party when you register. That allows for the Dems to pretend that “demographic changes” (the engineered media lie) have swayed GA to a Blue state. False….

    I have zero doubt that Trump won GA handily and that neither Dem Senator was legitimately elected. Americans need to wake the fook up and they need to verbally beat on their Congress members and state legislators about election fraud.

    • LOL: Peter Akuleyev
  250. @Reg Cæsar

    She’s dead like Jeffy Epstein is dead, right? (wink, wink)

    I wonder if they trained together, back in the day. Maybe on a kibbutz in the Motherland.

  251. Thomas says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    The Beehive is still run by naive Mormon Republicans, so of course it’s clean. When Democrats reach a tipping point, all hell breaks loose. Cf. Georgia.

    Steve’s old theory of Affordable Family Formation might immunize Utah from Democratic control.

    OTOH, the culture of the LDS Church seems hell-bent for cuckery in this century, for some reason. The role of Mormons in cuckservatism and RINOism is something that deserves some investigation and commentary. I don’t really have a good read yet on all the reasons for it. I know that Mormons have been surveyed as being the second most enthusiastic about immigration of any religious group (no points for guessing who the first is). There’s supposedly some theological reason for that, having to do with “Lamanites” and such.

  252. All of the wailing and gnashing of teeth in the GOP is probably a little overdone. Between the pandemic and its effects, it’s surprising that the blue wave predicted by the pundits never materialized. Just take a look at two historical precedents – the years (1) 1932, just after the onset of The Great Depression* and (1) 1920, after the Spanish flu both killed large numbers, and seriously dented economies around the world. In both of these elections, the incumbent party was crushed, and the opposition achieved victory margins well in excess of 200 electoral votes. In addition, the opposition won over 2/3 of House seats, and might well have won 2/3 of Senate seats if they were all up for election the same year.

    These historical comparisons are presumably why pollsters came up with popular vote margins for Biden that were 10% higher than what they turned out to be. They massaged their models to come up with the margins they expected, based on these precedents.

    Bottom line is that even in defeat, Trump beat the odds in a huge way. And that is why Pelosi wants to prevent Trump from running again. After Biden/Harris stumble their way through their first term, voters might start to really miss Trump. Pelosi’s presumably not trying to prevent Trump from running for office again because she thinks he would lose in 2024.

    * This comparison isn’t far-fetched because this pandemic’s economic effects simply swamped anything other than the Great Depression.

  253. Richard B says:
    @James Braxton

    And the “siege” of the capitol was an op. The coordinated reaction to it had all the spontanaity of the Schlieffen Plan.

    Absolutely. And it’s not hard to explain why.

    The people who directed the Capitol op grew up watching stuff like this.

  254. J.Ross says:
    @photondancer

    Several state officials made this claim, although always being careful to mention that they didn’t think it was important. A major Georgia official received a ballot for his dead son. Another got a ballot for an old address. Historians will not be confused, or impressed by Democrat Calvinball.

  255. @J.Ross

    It took me only a couple of seconds to find an NBC story on the post office confirming they had left boxes of ballots in Paterson and Haledon, NJ,, in May thus potentially invalidating a county election there. That was in May and I don’t see any reason why I should trust it didn’t happen again a few months later.

  256. Dave Pinsen says: • Website
    @MEH 0910

    Every President in history fails to complete 100% of his platform. Ann makes the perfect the enemy of the good and gets so hostile that people who could benefit from her advice tune her out.

    • Replies: @MarkinLA
  257. @ben tillman

    Which is not terrorism, unless that individual was supported and trained by an organization for that task.

    • Replies: @MarkinLA
  258. @Kronos

    Great question. There seem to be a number of observations/ analyses for which there’s no explanation. The fraudsters have done a very good job of basically ignoring such observations/ questions.

    Question: What ADDITIONAL evidence could be presented that WOULD convince the courts and American people that there was, with very little doubt, election fraud? What would that evidence look like?

    • Replies: @Jonathan Mason
  259. @J.Ross

    Although there could be instances of people receiving ballot papers for a dead person in the mail, when would expect that this would be the same for both parties.

    But yes in future elections there needs to be some process in place to make sure that deceased voters are removed from the voting rolls.

    • Replies: @anon
    , @MarkinLA
  260. @JohnGalt88

    It would look like people testifying under oath that they saw people printing fake ballot papers , setting up workshops to forge signatures, and smuggling them into polling stations.

    Or testimony about people being paid under the table for illegal operations with supporting documentation of illegal payments.

    Or testimony about people tampering with electronic voting machines with specific information about how this is done and who did it.

    Stuff like that. Testimony, documents, photographs, videos, financial records, bribes..

    Is the United States the only developed country that is not capable of holding honest and fair elections, or is it actually the case that democracy is a fraud worldwide, and that no elections are pure?

    Did Brexit really win the UK referendum, or was it all done with smoke and mirrors?

    After all, the United States foreign policy establishment is very quick to condemn the fairness of elections in other countries such as Venezuela where establishment does not like the leader of that country and would like to see somebody else elected.

    But our own country is no different.. Democracy can only work where you have a population that is prepared to accept the result of elections and allow the formation of a government led by people whom many did not vote for.

    Once the country is divided into tribal groups, democracy doesn’t work nearly as well. Of recent years we’ve seen this being countered to some extent by giving regions more autonomy.

    For example Scotland, Wales, and Northern Ireland have more autonomy now than they ever had within the United Kingdom.

    Could we see something like the United States being divided into regions that each have their own Supreme Court to decide which federal laws will be upheld in those areas?

    Could we see the United States breaking up into confederations of similar-minded states that will have 100% bans on abortions, and will not allow pregnant women to travel out of state?

    Could we see the United States breaking up over differences in beliefs over how infectious diseases should be controlled, or in the role of government in controlling infectious diseases?

    Could we see native American reservations seceding from the United States?

    These are exciting times.

  261. @James O'Meara

    So can you describe the exact mechanics by which millions of votes were manufactured?

    Specifically, in which states did this occur?

    Name the principal figures in the conspiracy.

    Just so that those of us who are not as smart as you can understand how it was done.

  262. Sean says:
    @Flubber

    The novel disease SARS appeared in 2003 was caused by the SARS-CoV or SARS-CoV-1 virus which has a spike protein derived from a civet, which rich Chinese consume in a delicacy “dragon-tiger-phoenix soup”, whose other ingredients include bats. The SARS pandemic was basically confined to China and killed approximately a third of people who got it but only spread by close person-to-person contact with respiratory secretions and/or body fluids such as kissing or embracing, sharing eating or drinking utensils, or close conversation (within 3 feet).

    Professor of Epidemiology W. Ian Lipkin had been warning the Chinese about another pandemic similar to SARS for a decade before his prediction came true. He was invited to China many times because they understood he was a world authority, but they just didn’t listen when he warned about the wildlife wet markets having already originated a novel pandemic with SARS in 2003 and ought to be shut down if they wanted to avoid creating a new disease and pandemic.

    The COVID-19 pandemic that began in December 2019 is caused by a new virus: severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus two (SARS-CoV-2) virus, which is much more transmissible because it has a spike protein from a pangolin, (scaly anteater) the world’s most trafficked animal because the Chinese consume believing it is an aphrodisiac. On January 1 2020, the Huanan market in Wuhan which sold live wild animals that were slaughtered for meat was closed by order of the Chinese government, which had identified it as the probable source of early cases of COVID-19, Also on Jan 1. the Chinese arrested 8 people for talking about the disease and a doctor’s social media post (like all since been since wiped by the Chinese) alerted Taiwan which began health inspections of all flights from Wuhan. Taiwan was to go on to suffer a total of seven deaths from Covid 19. World Health Organization member China provided information that led the WHO to give a press briefing on Jan 14 in which they said “it is certainly possible that there is limited human-to-human transmission”. Also on Jan 14, the WHO tweeted that so far the investigations by Chinese authorities had found “no clear evidence of human-to-human transmission”.

    “From the information that we have it is possible that there is limited human-to-human transmission, potentially among families, but it is very clear right now that we have no sustained human-to-human transmission,” said Maria Van Kerkhove, acting head of WHO’s emerging diseases unit

    Basically the Chinese were putting out that the Wuhan disease transmissibility was exactly like the 2003 one of SARS–not transmissible enough to cause a massive pandemic. That information was wrong. Moreover, the speed of growth in new cases was exponential (proportional to the size of the population) and a month and a half later on February the 27th, Trump said he’s spoke to Xi and been told that the spread of infections in China had been declining for two days. Unless one believes that Trump dared fabricate the content of the aforementioned conversation, Xi must have deliberately misled Trump about what was heading his way.

    If, as could very easily have been the case, along with its high transmissibility Covid-19 was anything like as lethal as SARS (fatal in 33% of those developing it) then hundreds of millions would now be dead in the West.

    • Thanks: Jonathan Mason
  263. @Paperback Writer

    Alien abduction isn’t nuts, unfortunately.

  264. @Jonathan Mason

    But why should this be so. Is it because Republicans are incapable of sticking a vote in the mail?

    It’s not about that.

    Republicans trust the system. They’re cornpone old fools who genuinely believe that the 25-year zealots and black people who work for the Democrats are not 100% willing to cheat—enthusiastically!—when it involves suppressing racism, protecting women’s health, or whatever ridiculous lie they’re stuck on that campaign cycle.

    Dems stuff the ballots, they print fake ballots, they send stooges around to old folks’ homes to intimidate the residents, they bribe foreigners into voting for their candidates, they complete ballots on behalf of retarded people … Republicans don’t do this stuff.

  265. epebble says:
    @photondancer

    Dead people may receive ballots, if they have died recently. But, a felony is committed only if the ballots are cast. In Wisconsin, they investigate votes cast by a person who later died before election date and cancel the vote. I don’t think we have that here in Oregon or Washington. It is hard to imagine a person in the house of a recently dead person committing an easily provable felony for nothing.

    Boxful of blanks is not true. People some times mistake ballot request forms (widely available and not tracked) with ballots. That is like confusing bulk (junk) mail with Certified or Registered mail.

  266. anon[297] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jonathan Mason

    But yes in future elections there needs to be some process in place to make sure that deceased voters are removed from the voting rolls.

    Troll. Ignorant, foolish, dolt of a troll.

    Try harder next time, ok?

  267. Mr. Anon says:
    @Redman

    I wouldn’t say Ron (or Rand) Paul has been firmly against immigration per se. But even among libertarians he’s shown more sense about the need for borders and has been firmly against illegal immigration.

    Ron Paul never talked about immigration, as far as I can remember. He might have been more popular had he done so. Not that he ever would have won the Presidency even so; he wouldn’t have. I never heard Rand Paul talk about immigration either. And Rand Paul looked for votes among a group (urban Blacks) that’s never going to vote for the Republicans in large numbers. That betrayed a certain naivite that you don’t want in a President.

    Also, I can’t say how much I disagree with Coulter’s piece today, and I’ve been a huge fan of hers for years. I’d put Pat Buchanan in that category too. His homilies last week to the sanctity of the Capitol made me want to vomit. He made D.C. sound like he was talking about Mecca or the Vatican.

    I agree that Coulter downplays the voting fraud, although she admits (and has always done so) that Dems always do it. And, while I like Pat Buchanan (I didn’t read the piece you mentioned) all the sanctimonious blather about the “Temple of Democracy” I find likewise nauseating. The Capitol is just a building to me. It certainly ain’t “The People’s House”. And if Washington DC ever was “my city”, it ceased being so a long time ago.

    Not really. Some of us would prefer to focus on ideas rather than arguing over one man’s legacy.

    Yeah, that’s what I’m arguing for; to not continue expending a lot of energy on behalf of a vain, selfish blowhard who wouldn’t ever really stand up for the people who voted for him. Some people are even now saying he should run in 2024. Do you want that? Would that be a good idea? That’s what I meant by “we’re all never-Trumpers now”. Any populist movement needs to be about populist ideas and policies, not about this failed one-term President.

    Folks like you should just move to the side now.

    No, I rather think you should.

  268. MarkinLA says:
    @Dave Pinsen

    Yes, but the idea is to prioritize the goals and shoot to accomplish the ones at the top of the list before doing those further down. Doing the ones nobody cares about and ignoring the ones they do is hardly a strategy for winning. Don’t tell me you would rather trade immigration restrictions for putting the embassy in Jerusalem?

    • Replies: @Dave Pinsen
  269. MarkinLA says:
    @Peter Akuleyev

    Not really. Wasn’t ISIS looking for lone wolf actors to perpetrate attacks in Europe. There was no direction or training from them just some ataboy when they described how they were going to run over people in a truck or start knifing people. You cannot say these weren’t terrorists.

  270. MarkinLA says:
    @Jonathan Mason

    when would expect that this would be the same for both parties.

    Yes, but it is not so much as what was sent but what was returned. Most of the proven election fraud in this country seems to be done in the low income areas and among immigrants – mostly Democrats. What is stopping people in apartments or housing projects from going through the mail or trash once the ballots are delivered and making sure ever dead person’s vote counts?

    • Replies: @epebble
  271. @Redman

    Coulter hated Trump ever since he unfollowed her on Twitter. Hell hath no fury…

    He unfollowed her on Twitter after he wouldn’t stop demanding that Trump throw out his daughter and son-in-law.

  272. @MarkinLA

    Trump was the best President on immigration since Eisenhower.

    • Replies: @MarkinLA
  273. epebble says:
    @MarkinLA

    Since it is printed right on the ballot envelope that doing that is a felony, why would they do that? To what end? Are people in projects so politically motivated?

    • Replies: @L. Guapo
  274. MarkinLA says:
    @Dave Pinsen

    Which means exactly what? The bottom line is nothing he did will stick and he never went to the mat for any of his promises.

    • Replies: @Dave Pinsen
  275. CCZ says:
    @Redman

    Mr. Clyburn is just attempting to foster “unity,” like with his legislation to make the ‘black national anthem’ the official U.S. national hymn.

    House Majority Whip James Clyburn (D-S.C.) said this week he plans on introducing a measure to make “Lift Every Voice and Sing,” known as the “black national anthem,” the official U.S. hymn in an effort to promote unity.

    “To make it a national hymn, I think, would be an act of bringing the country together. It would say to people, ‘You aren’t singing a separate national anthem, you are singing the country’s national hymn,’ ” Clyburn told USA Today. “The gesture itself would be an act of healing. Everybody can identify with that song.”

    And, no doubt, once the “black national anthem” becomes the national anthem, black leaders will recognize the unifying power of reparations.

    “Rep. Clyburn’s Call to Make Black National Anthem ‘Lift Every Voice and Sing’ a National Hymn Sparks Black Twitter Calls for Reparations Instead”

    https://atlantablackstar.com/2021/01/14/rep-clyburns-call-to-make-black-national-anthem-lift-every-voice-and-sing-a-national-hymn-sparks-black-twitter-calls-for-reparations-instead/

  276. @MarkinLA

    Which means he built 450 miles of wall, negotiated a “remain in Mexico” program to keep asylum applicants in Mexico instead of letting them loose here, and froze legal immigration.

    And all he got was ingratitude from people like you and Ann. Maybe a future candidate will decide it’s not worth trying to please immigration restrictionists at all.

  277. L. Guapo says:
    @epebble

    who is going to prosecute the felony, when the prosecutors are those who benefited from the fraud? And yes, blacks everywhere and at all times are politically corrupt.

  278. Dissident says:
    @AnotherDad

    Nope Trump listened to the Jewish son-in-law “smart cookie” and we got pathetic and disgusting mumblings about “you called them super-predators” …

    How, exactly, does it serve you to emphasize Kushner’s Jewishness? Would the same views and advice had been any less reprehensible, harmful or odious if they had come from a non-Jew?

    (For what it’s worth, as an Orthodox Jew myself, I find Kushner cringe-inducing.)

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