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  1. Dave Pinsen says: • Website

    What does “merit based” mean in this context?

    • Replies: @Dave Pinsen
    , @Polynikes
  2. I guess he really does want to lose.

  3. Barnard says:

    Why is he even doing interviews on Telemundo? What votes could he possibly think he would gain from this? Working in this White House has to be absolutely maddening. Most of them will probably be relived after Trump loses. I’m sure Jared has his next “consulting” job lined up already.

    • Replies: @IHTG
    , @dvorak
  4. Could he lift the GHWB Executive Order banning the import of “Assault Rifles” so we can get something beyond THREE years of empty Presidential rhetoric on ‘Protecting the Second Amendment’ and give us a pro-gun BATF director?

    Is that too much to ask? Something concrete from a Republican FOR A CHANGE?

  5. Daniel H says:

    And for this futile gesture instead of getting 20% of the latino vote he will likely get 15%.

    As if Mexican Americans give one flip about what Trump does or doesn’t do.

  6. I’ve defended this guy, and defended this guy ….

    battered white guy syndrome.

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
    , @Polynikes
  7. If we’re ever able to separate, Trump needs to stay over in Rainbow. He shouldn’t be allowed to relocate to America.

  8. Dave Pinsen says: • Website
    @Dave Pinsen

    Odds are, Trump was spit balling and will walk this back. But there’s also the possibility that he has a grand bargain in mind, say a path to citizenship for DACAns plus an end to birthright citizenship. Let’s see what happens.

    • Agree: Kronos, Kyle
    • Replies: @Dave Pinsen
    , @MBlanc46
    , @Thomas
  9. I wouldn’t even call it “caving”, Steve. I don’t think Trump is scared of the opposition in any way. He just has the attention span of a house cat, and I guess figures the rest of us are like that. This guy goes back and forth on everything.

    Pick anything that sounds good out of him, even ideas/policies with no legal opposition, say the ICE rule on sending foreign college students home if the school has only online classes coming, for example. I would not lose money betting against any single thing like this ever actually happening. It’s been 3 1/2 years, and he could have wiped out DACA on day 1.

    What a worthless piece of crap this guy is becoming! He’s only good in that he pisses off the left so bad. Why? I don’t even know anymore – they’ve got nothing to complain about.

    • Agree: ic1000
    • Replies: @Federalist
  10. Anonymous[357] • Disclaimer says:

    Trump’s cucking continues. This bitch is owned by Adelson Singer maybe even Rothschilds and Soros. He doesn’t want his taxes revealed because will show proof of his being utterly owned by big finance.

    Dreamers are ~900,000 plus their children (many dreamers are over 30 yrs) and add chain migration we’re gonna have a brand new giant future demo of resentful voters.

    But as for right here and now… 30 MILLION UNEMPLOYED AND TRUMP IS OBSESSED WITH AMNESTYING IMMIGRANTS.

    This incoherent jackass just might lose Oklahoma!

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  11. The “road to citizenship” around here is Interstate 35. It leads all the way to Laredo, and the bridge to Nuevo Laredo.

    Where most of these people have citizenship now.

    • LOL: SafeNow
    • Replies: @AnotherDad
  12. Dave Pinsen says: • Website
    @Dave Pinsen

    False alarm, it looks like.

  13. Anonymous[304] • Disclaimer says:

    Steve, any thoughts on the new Sports Illustrated Swimsuit Edition?

  14. now that the Blexit gambit is not paying off (surprise, surprise) and Kanye is taking his voters with him, Drump is executing a strategic pivot to muchachos. lowest hispanic unemployment tweets, coming up.

    “I’ve defended this guy, and defended this guy”

    indeed. he cannot be defended anymore.

    it turns out that it was actually really bad that Drump had a great speech writer, Stephen Miller, writing all those good speeches for him. because Drump would read those good speeches, year after year, to reassure his voters, then go do the exact opposite of what was in those speeches.

    we would have been a lot better off with generic, garbage boilerplate GOP speeches, so we never expected anything out of this total fraud and conman. his 4th of July speech was pure and utter horseshit. he never intended to act on any of that for 1 second.

    remember when Drump said he would build a wall…then instead expended massive political capital to pressure the government of Sweden to get some totally useless asshole rapper out of jail…who then didn’t even return Drump’s calls. what Mexican criminal will Drump try to free in the next 4 months, looking for those sweet, sweet votes in November?

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  15. There is no democratic solution left for whites. Amnesty for even one illegal will be applied to all illegals and Texas, Florida, and Arizona will go blue for good. Trump won’t help us, the GOP won’t help us, the courts and bureaucracy actively work against us, the media and capitalist industry harbor genocidal hatred against us.

    I have no faith in American democracy.

  16. @Dave Pinsen

    “False alarm, it looks like”

    not really. it may not be amnesty, but what it proves beyond a shadow of a doubt is that Trump has ultimate contempt for his base and his voters. he diverted immediately into the next big vibrant demographic group and began to appeal to them directly for their votes. nothing for his base, after that 4th of July speech.

    this should be THE signal even to the last holdouts that Trump is completely useless and should not be defended whatsoever anymore. as if we needed anymore time or data.

    Trump cares more about Mexicans who hate America than he cares about you or me or core Americans.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  17. @Reg Cæsar

    I35–i love it.

    (I still have about 150 mi of it left to travel. But not the 150 miles these illegals need to use. So guys … take it away!)

  18. anon[115] • Disclaimer says:
    @Dave Pinsen

    Dems will just trash it as incitement for their base. Biden will be told to sign a new order in January.

  19. @Anonymous

    how do we know she is the first trans woman in SI…if they’re good, you can’t tell.

    the first one snuck into Playboy all the way back in 1981.

    • Replies: @Jim Don Bob
  20. Anonymous[337] • Disclaimer says:
    @Dave Pinsen

    And a special shitholes clause to stop importing poverty, increasing inequality in The United States.

  21. SafeNow says:

    Because of MLK’s iconic use of “dream,” the word “dreamers” has an irrefutable positive connotation.
    You can produce all the negative data and rational arguments in the world about this group, but these are no match for the MLK connotation. Calling someone a dreamer is the opposite of calling someone a racist.

    • Replies: @Gordo
  22. @Anonymous

    Stock market rally for companies that make barf bags, is it a coincidence?

  23. Not Steve says:
    @Anonymous

    This errr… person must have looked very feminine even before surgery and makeup, but with a body like this still has no place in the cover of SI. Look harder and some features, e.g. jawline, betray what this errr… person’s errr… gender was at birth.

  24. IHTG says:

    Cave how? A president can’t grant citizenship via executive order, so Trump was obviously bullshitting/telling people what they want to hear as he often does.

    • Agree: Precious
    • Replies: @Polynikes
  25. Anonymous[223] • Disclaimer says:

    MAGA = Make Amerindians Great Again

    Idiotic Kushner Plan to f*ck the base and capture blacks/Hispanics forgets that those demographics are the precincts most under the corrupt control of Dem election authorities. So even if Trump makes inroads the new votes will be buried under a mountain of fraud with GOP powerless to get a clean count.

    F*CK YOU DONNY

  26. Dr. Doom says:

    Looks like Javanka Strikes Again. Has to be that Dumb Couple.

    The Stupid Party. Never rewarding their voters.

    Always pandering to those that call them “racist”.

    The Whig Party should be demolished this year.

    To Oblivion and Obscurity!

  27. IHTG says:
    @Barnard

    Why is he even doing interviews on Telemundo? What votes could he possibly think he would gain from this?

    How much do you know about Hispanic voters in Florida?

  28. @Dave Pinsen

    This EO is going to be all merit based immigration prioritizing based on skill

    The number of immigrants per year that would be in the long term benefit to Americans is probably in the *low* four digits. Maybe two or three thousand guys who have built truly exceptional skill sets in advanced battery tech, or robotics or nuclear piping or Thorium cycle and are fully committed to America’s principles of republican governance, federalism and individual liberty and willing to shuck off their own culture and make America’s culture and history their own.

    Actually, it’s probably not even a 1000. (What America needs for its continued prosperity is stopping disgenic fertility–getting smart, healthy American women to have babies again.)

    The Xi virus is the golden opportunity on immigration. Never been a better time to simply say “immigration moratorium”–“jobs for Americans”, “cheaper schooling”, “cheaper housing”, “lower debt”, “affordable family formation”.

    Trump–as usual–is not up to the opportunity.

    • LOL: IHTG
  29. Anonymous[488] • Disclaimer says:
    @prime noticer

    “I’ve defended this guy, and defended this guy”

    indeed. he cannot be defended anymore.

    He shut the government down for two months to try to get Congress to act. He cannot do everything alone.

  30. Anonymous[488] • Disclaimer says:
    @prime noticer

    not really. it may not be amnesty, but what it proves beyond a shadow of a doubt is that Trump has ultimate contempt for his base and his voters.

    He needs Hispanic and black votes (or decline-to-votes) to get re-elected.

  31. @Anonymous

    Steve, any thoughts on the new Sports Illustrated Swimsuit Edition?

    Name’s not Steve (though i’ve got Stevish friends) …

    The promotion of homos and now trannies–and frankly even the promotion of massive numbers of women as “leaders” (there are naturally a few, but they are outliers)–are an indication of a deeply disordered civilization.

    Disorder and chaos in sexuality mean disorder and chaos in life, in society.

    • Replies: @Jane Plain
  32. Whiskey says: • Website

    White is a slur which is natural out of the civil rights movement. Why would anyone care about Whites

  33. J. Farmer says:

    I think we’re getting pretty close to having to declare immigration restriction dead. It was already on life support so for the hell of it we tried an experimental treatment. It didn’t work.

  34. @Achmed E. Newman

    He just has the attention span of a house cat . . .

    This is the only explanation that makes sense. Why would Trump if he were remotely rational say something like this? He could just as easily have said, “Don’t vote for me.”

  35. Ann Coulter was right twice, first to support Trump when he talked the talk, second to dump him when he failed to walk the walk. I’m not going to waste another vote on this rather stupid, very ignorant, and totally narcissistic blob.

  36. Voltarde says:

    Jared Kushner’s middle finger to Jeff Sessions. When is Tucker Carlson going to do the right thing and endorse Sessions before the Alabama Republican Senate primary?

  37. anon[626] • Disclaimer says:

    Trump is a carnival barker who likes to draw a crowd. That is where the MAGA speeches come from.
    He is a preening ego who only thinks about his self-image, so the substance of what he does while in office are irrelevant to him.
    He is not that smart, which makes it easier to ignore substance.
    He is weak, which makes it easier to ignore substance.
    Because he lives from one media event to the next, he has no awareness of his declining credibility with the crowd he has drawn.
    So while the crowd starts to thin and those remaining look more sullen, he doesn’t see it. He just sees the footlights and his own image on the big screen.
    I assume he does have enough ethics to believe at least some part of what he says in his speeches, but I would give that much credit to Hillary Clinton.
    As iSteve readers know, “good” intentions, however you define them, don’t count for much.

  38. what? The executive caving on another policy —

    You don’t say. Laughing. Shocking

    I don’t have an iron left to straighten those crumpled suits.

  39. @Anonymous

    My other thought is “what accounts for this willingness to give the finger to your customers?”

    I get that–mostly female–good thinker staffers will revel in rolling out this nasty PC crap. But where’s the management–listening to the sales and marketing numbers’ guys–saying “No.”

    Profit is supposed to mean something. But be it SI or Disney or whomever, it seems like staff virtue signaling trumps any concept of “the bottom line”.

    • Replies: @JerseyJeffersonian
  40. Anonymous[152] • Disclaimer says:

    Kosher New Right on twitter ecstatic over Roger Stone news!

    Will make sure to bury the problematic “big amnesty” thing.

    Trade Roger for 900,000 Dreamers?… sure! it’s a great deal!

    NICE FRIDAY NIGHT NEWS DUMP DONNY! JARED = MAD SKILLZ!

  41. indocon says:

    Merit based means more Indians.

    BTW, there is an undercurrent that everybody is missing, come January when Democrats have the trifecta, I bet they don’t go for full amnesty for current mostly hispanic illegals, reason being that this past primary season really has awaken their elites and donor’s eyes to the emerging demographic bulge of young latinos who seem pretty open to the idea of wealth confiscation Latin America style, and the last thing they want to do is to significantly add to that block in 2024. Instead you will see a concrete push to legalize all Indians who are in the green card backlog and big-time opening of new immigrant chains from India and Africa, two places whose people here are proving to be a solid voting block for current Democratic establishment. I don’t think Democrats are really going to care that much about cementing a majority because once Republicans lose, they will be in a full fledged Civil War next year that will most likely lead to them being splintered the way of Whigs. There is going to be no 2010 style repeat in 2022.

  42. TheBoom says:

    Now that he has gotten black felons out of jail, DACA is President Jared’s top priority. Winning!

  43. Send text to 88022 to express your dismay at a further betrayal!

  44. Anonymous[192] • Disclaimer says:

    Same Trump pattern plays out…

    Trump’s base gets hot rhetoric and policy half-measures easily thwarted by incoming Dem potus (border wall segments, troop reductions overseas etc).

    GOP establishment and Dems get concrete actions nearly impossible to reverse (amnesty, gays as protected legal class, mega bailouts to banks, trillions added to debt etc).

    UP YOURS DONNY

  45. Anonymous[192] • Disclaimer says:

    When you fail to arrest political criminals —- let alone send them to prison —- they tend to get the idea that they can do whatever they want.

    So this much we know: Unreal extreme vote fraud is coming. Question is how successful will it be?

    If we look at the skinny midwest victories Trump pulled out in 2016 we see a mix of governors and supreme courts split between the two parties. Looks murky in FL and NC also. Rino gop governors add to the murkiness.

    I’d hope for a suprise victory in MN but no dice because the dems control all election authority there.

    Expect AZ to go blue but NH just might end up red this time.

    KEEP IN MIND A POLITICAL PARTY REPRESENTING BUSINESS INTERESTS HAS NEVER STOPPED A MARXIST REVOLUTION. Bannon knew we needed populism. Bannon was right in his new formulation and Trump/Kushner threw Bannon out the window.

    2020 will be dirtiest US election ever.

  46. dvorak says:
    @Barnard

    I’m sure Jared has his next “consulting” job lined up already.

    During Trump’s term, the Kushners’ NYC skyscraper was bailed out by – was it Qatar? A bribe to protect Qatar from KSA aggression.

    That’s a net benefit of $300 million+ to the Kushners for Jared’s government service. Why in the flying fuck would Jared do ‘consulting’ after that?

    Oh, by the way, Jared’s brother will make half a billion $ or so when his health insurance startup, Oscar, goes public or gets acquired.

  47. Does this even matter ? Trump is going to lose and the next regime will open the borders no matter what Trump does. But between the virus and BLM and upcoming major recession, I am somehow not that worried about another 10-20 millions of legal illegals. Time flies and things change fast.

    Well, my personal take is that Trump is getting desperate and hopes to get some traction for his campaign by courting the Hispanic vote. But he will fail.

    • Replies: @Precious
  48. Anonymous[488] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous

    Trump’s cucking continues. This bitch is owned by Adelson Singer maybe even Rothschilds and Soros.

    What are you doing to fight mass inmigration?

  49. Kronos says:

    I know it’s not related to this discussion but…

    TRUMP JUST FREED ROGER STONE!!!

    Yes!!!

    https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/trump-commutes-roger-stones-prison-sentence

  50. Mr. Anon says:

    I know it’s not related to this discussion but…

    TRUMP JUST FREED ROGER STONE!!!

    Yes!!!

    Whatever. Who cares. More inside baseball stuff. They always make the argument (Tucker Carlson makes it for example): if they can do this to Roger Stone, they can do it to you. It’s an empty statement. The political class will defend it’s own……….but not you. Roger Stone gets his sentence commuted, but how about conservatives who have been imprisoned just for defending themselves? You think Trump will commute their sentences? In the end, they won’t do it to Roger Stone, but they will still do it to you.

    And anyway, why did Trump associate with Roger Stone anyway? Stone has a tattoo of Richard Nixon on his back. He’s a f**king weirdo. Same with Manafort – a cuck – also a weirdo. Michael Cohen – a shifty weasel. Why does Trump have such lousy judgment in associates and hirelings?

    • Replies: @Kronos
    , @anon
  51. Anonymous[270] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jus' Sayin'...

    I sympathize. But, may I ask who are you going to waste your vote on then?

    • Replies: @Jus' Sayin'...
  52. @Jus' Sayin'...

    Right because the Democrats are the better immigration restriction option.

    And we wonder why we lose.

    • Agree: Peterike, Polynikes
    • Replies: @Jus' Sayin'...
  53. Mr. Anon says:
    @AnotherDad

    I’ve defended this guy, and defended this guy ….

    No shame in that. He was the only game in town.

    But – yes – he’s a blowhard, a moron, and a narcissist. He’ll believe whatever his underlings shine him on with, until he dumps them and gets new ones…….who will shine him on again. He’ll say anything that pops into his empty head.

    Orange Man isn’t bad. But Orange Man is stupid.

    I’m not voting for him – I’ll just sit out that race. Mind you, I live in a Red State, which he’ll probably win, though not by as wide a margin as in 2016.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  54. Kronos says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    I’d bet that many guys are terrified of potentially dating a tranny. It used to be a joke but there’s always that danger now in 2020. Now if you find out too late and break it off, you lose the risk of getting cancelled. So people need on-the-spot DNA testing technology to immediately identify a potential mistake. It might be a profitable market.

    I’m up for the tranny sniffing guard dog (man’s best friend) but something more discrete will sell more units.

    Maybe if I call Elizabeth Holmes she could hook me up with some Gattica-like technology? She’s likely not busy with business stuff now (“Bad Blood” don’t ask.) But she could be interested in a new venture.

  55. @AnotherDad

    SI is a dead rag. It’s simply not important anymore.

  56. Dr. Doom says:

    Face facts. Trump is just an idiot that inherited everything.

    A prodigal son sent to military school to straighten him out.

    Didn’t work.

    However, this is not such bad news.

    Trump’s not trying to save you. He’s trying to save the System.

    The System that hates you and wants you dead.

    Failure on his part is a GOOD THING.

    He cannot save the System now, as debts spiral and geopolitical opponents lap the MIC.

    Without the Military Advantage, no more Bush Wars.

    Trump failing is GOOD for you and yours.

    The System needs to FALL DOWN and NEVER GET BACK UP…

  57. MBlanc46 says:

    Well, at least he didn’t do it on “day one”.

  58. Polynikes says:
    @Dave Pinsen

    All Mexican Nobel prize winners in the sciences can stay

    • Replies: @TomSchmidt
  59. Peterike says:

    Trump has done more to restrict immigration than any President in at least 40 years, and Biden has proudly announced a complete open borders platform, but some of you idiots won’t vote for Trump because he’s not perfect.

    You deserve the multi-cultural hell hole Biden will give you. See how you like it when we get 100 million immigrants in Biden’s first year. Because that’s your option, you spergy fucking idiots.

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
    , @V. K. Ovelund
  60. Polynikes says:
    @AnotherDad

    What’s he done on immigration that disappointed you? He tried to end DACA and several other measures but has been blocked by the courts at every avenue. He couldn’t get a Republican congress to fully fund the wall.

    I get 2A folks who are mad about bump stocks but on immigration and foreign trade he’s done as much as the other two branches allow.

  61. Polynikes says:
    @IHTG

    Trump shoots from the hip. Media runs with the most anti-Trump narrative possible. Low IQ people fall for it again.

    A story as old as time…

  62. MBlanc46 says:
    @Dave Pinsen

    You are quite the optimist.

  63. Thomas says:
    @Dave Pinsen

    But there’s also the possibility that he has a grand bargain in mind…

    “But there’s also the possibility that Shadow President Kushner has a grand bargain in mind.”

    FTFY.

  64. @AnotherDad

    What’s the downside?

    If this magazine goes (hormonally-enhanced) tits up, all of the virtue signalers lose their jobs, and the managers who thought that this trannie pumping is a great idea along with them.

    Sportsball/NASCAR is trying real hard to commit suicide right now, and anything that turns off sportsball/NASCAR fanatics helps them along with that project. Sounds good to me.

  65. Kronos says:
    @Mr. Anon

    And anyway, why did Trump associate with Roger Stone anyway? Stone has a tattoo of Richard Nixon on his back. He’s a f**king weirdo. Same with Manafort – a cuck – also a weirdo. Michael Cohen – a shifty weasel. Why does Trump have such lousy judgment in associates and hirelings?

    Likely because you need weasels to hunt vermin and navigate the rat tunnels. Keep in mind essentially all of Congress could get arrested for what was charged against Manafort, Cohen, and Stone. They’re tried tested Trump toadies and possess a level of loyalty.

    As a leader, the most important thing in a minion is loyalty, loyalty, and loyalty. If they’re high skilled and disloyal your likely finished.

    After JFK got popped in Dallas, LBJ essentially kept the Kennedy Administration in its original form (with the notable exception of Bobby.) he was dazzled by the Kennedy brain trust and especially by Robert McNamara. LBJ actually wanted the wiz kid to become his VP until the Vietnam War (both literally and figuratively) went south. LBJ would’ve been better off using his own Texas cronies in the White House, not establishment liberals looking longingly at Bobby Kennedy. I think many tried to pin JFKs Vietnam failures on LBJ while trying to provide Bobby a clean slate.

    • Replies: @Bill B.
    , @Mr. Anon
    , @Anonymous
  66. Gordo says:
    @SafeNow

    Because of MLK’s iconic use of “dream,” the word “dreamers” has an irrefutable positive connotation.

    They should release the FBI tapes and see what MLK has in the way of connotations then.

    • Agree: Kronos
  67. It’s probably just me, but I can’t shake the impression that Trump doesn’t want to be re-elected, but doesn’t want to look like he doesn’t want to be re-elected.

    I don’t doubt that he was sincere in his desire to be President and accomplish at least some of what he promised. It appeared at the beginning of his term that he was trying in good faith to do those things. He isn’t trying anymore.

    The DC machine beat him. To accomplish his goals, he needed good and experienced people in the right spots in the administration, but any potential people for those roles quickly saw that joining the administration was going to cost them big time, in terms of harassment, loss of future jobs, even possible death. So all he could bring in were neocons who worked against him almost every step of the way. Also, wouldn’t anyone expect that if the President actually gave an order, those under him would carry it out? But he couldn’t even get our troops out of Syria or Afghanistan because even the military didn’t obey him.

    Finding out that you’ll have to fight your own branch of the government, along with Congress (even those supposedly of your own party), along with a Supreme Court that’s not exactly friendly… well, who wouldn’t eventually toss in the towel? If you get in to try to save the country, but find out once you’re there that not only can’t you do so, but that no one could because it’s past the point of being saved, wouldn’t you at least try to save your family?

    I really think he’s cut a deal. He’ll throw the election if they leave him and his family alone after he leaves office. The Dems in office, at least, would rather get power back now than wait four more years. I doubt they really will leave him alone, but that’s the best chance he has at this point.

    But I’m probably wrong. I usually am.

  68. Bill B. says:
    @Kronos

    I have not watched Game of Thrones (I don’t have a tv). When I see a clip and think perhaps I’ve been missing out something mediocre happens that reassures me: in the case the actress playing the Queen.

    • Replies: @Kronos
  69. Mr. Anon says:
    @Kronos

    As a leader, the most important thing in a minion is loyalty, loyalty, and loyalty. If they’re high skilled and disloyal your likely finished.

    That may be great for the leader (although neither Paul Manafort nor Michael Cohen have been a net plus for Donald Trump), but it doesn’t do anything for me. I don’t care about the well-being of the “Great Man” leader – I care about what he can do for me. In Trump’s case, the answer is, apparently, “not much”. So why should I care about him or his weirdo minions?

    • Replies: @Kronos
  70. Mr. Anon says:
    @contriturated anon

    But I’m probably wrong. I usually am.

    No, that isn’t a bad analysis or a bad theory. Who knows? You might be right.

  71. Mr. Anon says:
    @Peterike

    Trump has done more to restrict immigration than any President in at least 40 years,…

    Trump hasn’t done s**t. Other than Sessions, he didn’t even staff his administration with people who agreed with the platform he ran on. He let himself be led around by the nose by his daughter and son-in-law (and whoever is telling them what to do) and by billionaires like Sheldon Adelson. He hired John Bolton, for chrissakes. John Bolton! What rational reason is for doing that, if he wanted to carry out the policies he ran on in 2016. He’s an idiot and a braggart and a fool (Trump, I mean).

  72. @Peterike

    You deserve the multi-cultural hell hole Biden will give you. See how you like it when we get 100 million immigrants in Biden’s first year. Because that’s your option, you spergy … idiots.

    I was glad to reëlect Reagan in 1984 and will be glad to reëlect Trump in 2020 because, on balance, no president in the interim has done better. However, your insults are directed at the wrong target in my opinion. The only man who can be blamed for losing the voters you deride is Donald J. Trump.

    Trump was the one who unnecessarily let these voters down.

    Besides, excited partisans say things like you say every four years. I believe that you sincerely mean it and that you genuinely think that this time is different, but such insults as yours are not very effective. We have heard such insults before.

    More effective would have been the construction of the border wall we were promised.

    Trump said that we would win and win and win and we thought, hey, that sounds pretty good, we’ll try it. But it didn’t work out that way and now Trump (along with the rest of us) will pay the price.

  73. Anonymous[769] • Disclaimer says:
    @Kronos

    As a leader, the most important thing in a minion is loyalty, loyalty, and loyalty. If they’re high skilled and disloyal your likely finished.

    Is the same true of nation states?

    • Replies: @Kronos
  74. Bugg says:
    @Dave Pinsen

    Infuriating. The mind boggles on how unfocused and ill considered this was. Taking and interview with Telemundo makes no sense. To say these kind of things shows again there’s nobody home at the Trump campaign. And really if you give any of these illegals a “path to citizenship” , right off Texas and the entire southwest for the GOP in the EC. Which would mean a one party state. Forever. And then to now say he’s ‘walking it back”.

    • Replies: @V. K. Ovelund
  75. @Mr. Anon

    And then he fired Bolton.

    Perhaps you should have offered yourself up for the position instead of whining that he didn’t choose someone you liked!

  76. @contriturated anon

    I really think he’s cut a deal. He’ll throw the election if they leave him and his family alone after he leaves office. The Dems in office, at least, would rather get power back now than wait four more years. I doubt they really will leave him alone, but that’s the best chance he has at this point.

    He knows that they have to make an example of him and that they will be even more vindictive when he leaves office.

    His best chance is to destroy them all in the next four years.

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
  77. @Anonymous

    At this point, I will no longer bother voting. I’ll save my energy for dealing with the coming collapse of the USA and migration to an area where I can live among folks like myself.

  78. @Charles Erwin Wilson's phone

    Wake up. Trump hasn’t done anything he promised to do. He’ll continue not doing it in the improbable case he is reelected. We lost when we elected him, although we temporarily scared our ruling and political classes. The more woke among us, e.g. Coulter, eventually realized that. Some, like you, Peterike and Polynikes, evidently haven’t yet or are shilling for the stoopid party.

  79. Anonymous[526] • Disclaimer says:
    @Mr. Anon

    Orange Man isn’t bad. But Orange Man is stupid.

    I’m not voting for him – I’ll just sit out that race.

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
  80. @contriturated anon

    Trump never did his homework. Neither did any of his loyal associates. There is a book listing all politically appointed positions in the federal government’s executive branch. It is often called the “Plum Book” https://www.gsa.gov/governmentwide-initiatives/presidential-transition-directory/federal-government-structure/plum-book.

    Any competent and serious presidential campaign will have been examining this book and current occupants of the positions listed in it, planning ahead whom to replace, i.e., force to resign, and who to replace them with. I assumed that the Trump campaign had some competent and responsible adults who were doing this.

    When Trump took office it quickly became clear that this was not the case. Literally thousands of sabotaging, prog bureaucrats were allowed to retain their positions in the new administration. Most of Trump’s replacements were cut from the same cloth. Trump talked a good game but he had neither the intelligence, nor the knowledge, nor the competence, nor the cojones to carry through on his promises. When I realized this, early in 2017, I gave up hope.

    • Replies: @Jim Don Bob
  81. Kronos says:
    @Bill B.

    She gets better as the seasons progress.

  82. @Polynikes

    Nobels are becoming converged. Maybe Fields medal winners?

  83. anon[225] • Disclaimer says:
    @Mr. Anon

    why did Trump associate with Roger Stone anyway? Stone has a tattoo of Richard Nixon on his back. He’s a f**king weirdo. Same with Manafort – a cuck – also a weirdo. Michael Cohen – a shifty weasel. Why does Trump have such lousy judgment in associates and hirelings?

    Roger Stone was a crucial go-between between Trump campaign and Wikileaks. Wikileaks was instrumental in leaking the Hillary emails and sinking her. Remember, Trump won by a sub-microscopic margin and was always somewhat grateful (very rare for him) to RS. Also, RS, with great fortitude, kept his mouth shut/gave misinformation during Muller probe, at the pain of going to jail. It was almost obligatory for Trump to pardon/commute RS without with there won’t be any cooperation from his team members if some shady work has to be done. Compare AG Sessions Vs. Barr; Trump is much happier with a yes man Barr than with the upstanding Sessions. This will come in handy if any U.S. Attorneys start looking under the rug and may need to be fired, like the SDNY troublemaker.

  84. BASED Accelerationist!

    Here’s a hopecope:

    Trump is going to, in this order:

    1) Stage a military coup in the US.
    2) Use the military to take territory from all infiltrating nations since 1965 in proportion to their infiltrator population in the US.
    3) Repatriate those infiltrators.
    4) In the same order, ban all prisons and return full border control and exile powers to the States.
    5) Based on the resulting assortative migrations, reallocate land value territory between States .

    Yeah, I know… Trump won’t.

    But it _is_ a plausible promise of a 5th generation open source insurgency that will follow on Trump’s impotence.

  85. anon[225] • Disclaimer says:
    @Mr. Anon

    Trump’s greatest achievement in the field of immigration may be his cluelessness about managing Covid. The resulting travel ban/fear of foreigners to come here means no immigration/travel of any kind for 2020 and possibly for 2021. The embassy/consulates have shut down for visa etc., Even though we have suffered human and economic losses, on the immigration front, this has been an unmitigated success story. What he promised but didn’t deliver on the Great Mexican Wall paid for by Mexico in physical form has come true in the form of a virtual wall from California to Florida in the shape of vertical rise in Covid case numbers. If this pace sustains for the rest of 2020, we may see a permanent halt to immigration from the South.

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
  86. Mr. Anon says:
    @Anonymous

    How is Trump “the only possible avenue for the institutional relization of my goals”. He has been in office for four years and has accomplished virtually nothing. He has not even seriously bestirred himself to try. He has tarnished the brand by being such a petty and petulant prima-donna. I’m not abandoning the Republican Party (although I’m not holding out any hope it will become useful) – just Trump. I’m not voting for him in a Red State he will likely win anyway. It’s a perfectly rational thing to do.

  87. Mr. Anon says:
    @anon

    Illegal immigration fell during the onset of COVID, but seems to be back on the rise.

    https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/jun/12/illegal-immigration-rose-nearly-40-amid-coronaviru/

    The moratorium on work visas (and other visas) will be helpful if it can be maintained. I don’t see any evidence that liberals have become more skeptical of immigration in the wake of COVID. They believe whatever the media tells them to believe – on COVID or immigration or most anything – so there is unlikely to be any change there.

  88. Mr. Anon says:
    @Peripatetic Commenter

    His best chance is to destroy them all in the next four years.

    Yeah, just like he was going to investigate Hillary back in 2017.

    Beyond his line of sales patter – “What’s it going to take for you to put me into the White House today” – Trump’s got nothing.

  89. peterike says:
    @Mr. Anon

    Trump hasn’t done s**t.

    Just because the media doesn’t report any of it, doesn’t mean it doesn’t happen.

    https://www.conservapedia.com/Donald_Trump_achievements:_Immigration_and_border_security

    The main problem is Trump has been doing things incrementally, rather than simply slamming the gates shut like we’d all like. Some areas have been successes, like cutting back on refugees (should be zero, but it’s much lower than before). A lot of the fixes have been bureaucratic level regulations making the whole entry process more cumbersome (like stopping Visas for people who can’t prove health insurance coverage).

    It’s all too little and, as far as America’s future goes, too late. But four years of Hillary would have already buried us in immigration, as will four years of Biden. With Trump, the rot has slowed down, which isn’t a bad achievement given the intense hostility he has to face on it from every power center in American life (including his own party), plus a hostile judiciary constantly invalidating his perfectly legal moves. Trump is almost single-handedly battling the most corrupt ruling class since the Pharaohs. But yeah, he hasn’t done enough.

    I suppose that’s true, if you consider literally saving his country at least for a few more years “not enough.” You don’t deserve him.

  90. Precious says:
    @Black-hole creator

    Does this even matter ?

    Yes it does, but not for the reason you think.

    Trump is going to lose…my personal take is that Trump is getting desperate

    Trump has already won the November election. It is the Democrats who are getting desperate. Trump has about a dozen different ways of winning, Biden will be lucky if Trump picks a way that doesn’t have Biden and his family dragged off to prison in leg irons.

  91. Precious says:
    @anon

    Roger Stone was a crucial go-between between Trump campaign and Wikileaks.

    ^This is false. The prosecution proved Roger Stone was lying through his teeth and BSing about everything. He had no special connections with Wikileaks and was exaggerating his importance with the Trump campaign. If he had come clean about that when the FBI first asked him, he wouldn’t have been charged.

  92. L. Guapo says:
    @Jus' Sayin'...

    You and all you other black-pill P.O.S.’s on here should keep your negativity to yourselves. Go slap the old lady or the dog around and get it out of your system. Trump must win this election. RBG is not going to live for another 4 years. That fact alone is reason to vote for him. There are many others.

    • Disagree: V. K. Ovelund
  93. Precious says:

    I applaud Trump for this move. I applaud him because I oppose a path of citizenship to DACA, and Trump is forcing the Supreme Court’s hand.

    Ever since SCOTUS led by Roberts came up with the absurd reasoning that despite Obama’s executive order on DACA being illegal, you can’t end it because you probably have impure motives and may go about ending it wrong, Trump has faced the problem of how to get SCOTUS to own up to their BS.

    Trump said, “one of the aspects of the bill is going to be DACA. We are going to have a road to citizenship. I am signing a big immigration bill.”

    “I am going to do a big executive order. I am going to make DACA a part of it. I am going to be signing a very major immigration bill as an executive order. Which the Supreme Court now, because of the DACA decision, has given me the power to do that.”

    Presidents don’t have the power to ignore Congress, pass bills, and sign them into law. SCOTUS implied Obama could with their ridiculous DACA decision. So Trump is going to give them a choice…

    1) Own up to their mistake, reverse their decision, and end DACA.
    2) Give Trump the power to create and pass bills all by himself by executive order.

    Which choice do you think Roberts and the other justices are going to take?

  94. Kronos says:
    @Anonymous

    From the book, it’s scalable from minor corporate settings to nation-states. It’s thesis states that the only difference between dictatorships and democracies are that the former posses narrow power nodes while the latter possess wider power nodes. In a dictatorship, the Minister of Defense is more important for maintaining political control than half the entire population. While in a democracy it’s often the reverse. The rules are applicable to any human hierarchy according to the “Dictators Handbook”.

    If your corporate boss hire’s his idiot cousin over you, the cousin likely has a family tie so him undermining the boss is unlikely. Also, because he’s an idiot the chances of him overthrowing the boss and successfully managing power is lower. The boss doesn’t want a hotshot outperforming him and risking getting out promoted.



    (Steve talked about this book a while back. It suggests people are stuck at a certain corporate level after they’ve maxed out their ability.)

    It would be cool to perform a meta analysis on corporate advancement guides from the 1970s to 1990s. The ones I’ve examined in used book stores propose a very “kiss the ass of everyone above you, while shit on everyone beneath you” kind of overall strategy. Now, those people who used that strategy (let’s say the NYT) are now surrounding themselves with incompetent “eunuchs*” that won’t threaten their regimes (like high-IQ white men.) Unfortunately, this “Corporate Cancer” (I’m referring to your book Vox Day, any news on SJWs Book 3: SJWs always Project?) has led to lots of institutional decay and corruption.

    The only way to break through that blockage in an organization employee like the NYTs, is to get them cancelled. Push them off a cliff and onto the sharp rocks of civil rights underneath. Cancel culture is the film “Horrible Bosses” plot done right.

    *(Leaders often used eunuchs as ministers because they couldn’t father a new dynasty. Saddam used Christian Iraqis because they could never win over a Muslim populace if they backstabbed Saddam.)

  95. Kronos says:
    @Mr. Anon

    Well what do you want exactly?

  96. LondonBob says:
    @anon

    As his trial showed Stone was the go between the Trump campaign and the (((Russians))). It was Netanyahu and chums running interference, hence the endless Russia nonsense to hide this.

    • Replies: @Precious
  97. @prime noticer

    the first one snuck into Playboy all the way back in 1981.

    Really!? Which one?

    • Replies: @anon
  98. @Jus' Sayin'...

    The entire Washington establishment was against DJT from the gitgo. Tell me who he should have picked for Plum Book jobs, besides Kobach.

  99. @anon

    Why did the SDNY DA get fired? I haven’t heard a decent explanation.

    • Replies: @Precious
  100. Precious says:
    @LondonBob

    As his trial showed Stone was the go between the Trump campaign and the (((Russians))).

    ^This is false. The prosecution at the trial proved the exact opposite. Roger Stone was convicted of making false statements about access into Wikileaks that he did not actually have.

    • Replies: @LondonBob
  101. Precious says:
    @Jim Don Bob

    Why did the SDNY DA get fired? I haven’t heard a decent explanation.

    Berman was a temporary appointment by a court, an acting AG, and Trump finally got around to appointing a replacement for him after about two and a half years. Berman was scheduled to step down on July 3rd. Barr may or may not have planned another assignment for him.

    Berman then went rogue. He issued a press release where he publicly lied, alleging that Barr had just tried to force him to resign immediately and that he had refused to do so, defiantly showing up to work anyway. It was an obvious lie, considering there was no need to have him leave two weeks early when Trump took his sweet time finding a replacement. So Berman was fired for his lying, gaslighting, making a public spectacle and controversy where none existed.

    • Thanks: Jim Don Bob
  102. anon[744] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jim Don Bob

    Genetic mutant not the same as some guy in a dress. But here she is. I’m sure there is a pic or two on the web someplace. Also posed in 1991.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caroline_Cossey

    • Thanks: Jim Don Bob
  103. @Bugg

    Which would mean a one party state. Forever.

    Forever is a long time.

    Even if you were right, reëlecting Donald Trump and the mostly useless Republicans would hardly solve the problem.

    I voted for Trump and the useless Republican and mean to do so again but even I can see that Joe Biden is not particularly scary. (Kamala Harris is scary, but Harris’ vice-presidential nomination has not happened yet and, since, there is nothing you or I can do to impede the prospect, we might as well wait and see.)

    Trump has fumbled his historic chance to divert the momentum of ethnic replacement and civilizational decline in the United States. He knew what to do. He outlined a sound, realistic plan to do it during his inaugural address but, for various reasons, largely failed to follow through. Do you think that reëlecting Trump now would change that?

    Me neither. It is too late. Trump is chiefly at fault and you and I will soon pay the price.

    Yet forever is indeed a long time. Once Trump is gone, whether in 2021 or in 2025, I will await a subsequent turn of events.

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