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Christo, “Running Fence,” 1976, 25 miles long in Marin and Sonoma Counties

Mickey Kaus tweets:

With enough grants we could have gotten Christo to build it years ago and called it art

 
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  1. Just heard Mickey on a podcast on the “Ricochet” website. He was very good – as usual. He doesn’t show up till near the last 1/4 – so I suggest you skip the other characters and just go straight for Mickey’s portion.

    A warning – the other guys on the podcast are supposedly “conservative” – but I’ve yet to find any evidence of it. Mostly, they seem to be in favor of “free trade”, wars in the middle east, Kvetching about how “vulgar” Trump is, and sneering at any attempt to control Immigration.

    They should invite Steve on.

    • Replies: @MEH 0910
    @Honesthughgrant


    Just heard Mickey on a podcast on the “Ricochet” website. He was very good – as usual. He doesn’t show up till near the last 1/4 – so I suggest you skip the other characters and just go straight for Mickey’s portion.
     
    https://ricochet.com/podcasts/build-that-wall/
    49:36 minutes in.

    Replies: @Jim Don Bob

    , @Bugg
    @Honesthughgrant

    Wonder if or when Steve Sailer might join Gavin McInnis's show for an hour or 2.

    Replies: @Jefferson, @Laugh Track

  2. 60 percent Hispanic San Bernardino was recently named the second most dangerous city in California after Oakland. So San Bernardino had surpassed Straight Outta Compton in being more gangsta.

    Only the most trashy Mexicans move to San Bernardino, the toilet of Southern Califirnia.

  3. Pat Casey says:

    When the wall is going up shall we expect human walls protesting?

    I think Trump is having the time of his life btw. Has there ever been a better chatter at the stump? New York New York its a hell of a town. That town just talks alot. Ashkenazi as it is. and Hilary can waddle herself around the stage and not stop sounding bitchy with all her phony gestures and applause lines god she’s awful.

    Trump just must know his nuke her line: Shut up you should have been indicted.

  4. @Honesthughgrant
    Just heard Mickey on a podcast on the "Ricochet" website. He was very good - as usual. He doesn't show up till near the last 1/4 - so I suggest you skip the other characters and just go straight for Mickey's portion.

    A warning - the other guys on the podcast are supposedly "conservative" - but I've yet to find any evidence of it. Mostly, they seem to be in favor of "free trade", wars in the middle east, Kvetching about how "vulgar" Trump is, and sneering at any attempt to control Immigration.

    They should invite Steve on.

    Replies: @MEH 0910, @Bugg

    Just heard Mickey on a podcast on the “Ricochet” website. He was very good – as usual. He doesn’t show up till near the last 1/4 – so I suggest you skip the other characters and just go straight for Mickey’s portion.

    https://ricochet.com/podcasts/build-that-wall/
    49:36 minutes in.

    • Replies: @Jim Don Bob
    @MEH 0910

    I used to listen to these guys a few years back until they put them behind their subscriber wall. Are they back to being free?

  5. Murals of Mexican tourist destinations would be a nice touch for the south side.

  6. Thanks for the memory from this Sonoma county native. Do you recall one of his umbrellas busting lose and causing physical damage to an individual?

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Kyle a

    That was in SoCal? The wind-blown umbrella killed a lady visiting the site:

    http://www.victoria4edit.com/blog/christo-and-the-umbrellas-%E2%80%93-triumph-and-tragedy-in-a-world-of-umbrellas/

    Replies: @SPMoore8, @Kyle a

    , @Kristen
    @Kyle a

    I was teaching in a Miami college when Christo decided to "wrap" the islands pink. The excitement in the art department (not mine) was palpable. Together, art profs boated to the place of "art" to help move the pink plastic. One guy fell off the boat and was barely rescued in time -- it could have been a second Christo fatality!

  7. The National Rifle Association wants to make America great again.

  8. Exhibition summary: “A profound meditation on the nature of exclusion, to be left standing in perpetuity so that we will never forget the constitutive trauma of imagined communities.”

  9. @Kyle a
    Thanks for the memory from this Sonoma county native. Do you recall one of his umbrellas busting lose and causing physical damage to an individual?

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Kristen

    That was in SoCal? The wind-blown umbrella killed a lady visiting the site:

    http://www.victoria4edit.com/blog/christo-and-the-umbrellas-%E2%80%93-triumph-and-tragedy-in-a-world-of-umbrellas/

    • Replies: @SPMoore8
    @Steve Sailer

    No, the umbrella installation was different, the wall was built inland from Point Reyes, if I recall. That's what the terrain looks like, anyway.

    , @Kyle a
    @Steve Sailer

    Yup. That was his SoCal endeavor. He also had another exhibit that my memory fails to recall. Perhaps it was in Europe that was kind of a biggie.

    Replies: @Ivy

  10. Umbrellas are for cowards, they just create artificial barriers between us and water seeking a new level.

    • Replies: @gruff
    @Svigor

    Well they were originally intended to keep off sun (umbrella = "little shadow"). Using them against rain is a perversion.

    , @TheJester
    @Svigor

    Be careful, Svigor. You might start a movement against umbrellas as being "anti-natural" ... part of the War Against Nature with White cisgendered males being at fault (again). If it catches on, I would anticipate a policy letter from Hussein Obama that government contractors, schools, universities, and state governments could face lawsuits or the loss of Federal funding for tolerating umbrellas on their grounds or inside their buildings.

    Is this does happen, I predict (as so often has happened in the Obama administration) that the driving force for this policy will be traced back to Samantha Power. Samantha is well known for her belief that anything that interferes with the free flow of cosmic energy and violates the Law of Karma condemns the human race to more suffering. Hence, under the principle of RtP (Responsibility to Protect), if would necessarily follow that umbrellas be banned as fundamental principles of domestic and foreign policy.

  11. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    Trump promoted Manafort yesterday to El Jefe Supreme Commander of the general campaign.

    Good week for the Trump army. Too bad he chose wrong on the tranny bathroom issue.

    Also he should’ve been hammering the Affirmative Furthering section 8 catastrophe all week. McConnell just snuck it through the senate today.

    Those two issues are horses he could’ve rode the whole way. But, no.

    Still Hillary and her minions in the media seem rattled already.

    • Replies: @Winthorp
    @Anonymous

    I'd like to see pushback on AFFH too, but I can see how the Trump campaign might think it needs to steer clear. Wondering how they could frame it. Maybe Left-Right double pincer, wherein Trump does something similar to his money-in-politics move ("I know because I paid politicians off")? Basically present this as a ploy by developers and corrupt officials to drive people out of their communities so they can cater to yuppies. That simultaneously deflects the charges of racism, reinforces his position as a champion of rooted community, and conveys to the suburbs his support.

    Replies: @antipater_1

    , @Luke Lea
    @Anonymous

    "Good week for the Trump army. Too bad he chose wrong on the tranny bathroom issue."

    No, haven't you noticed, he avoids those hot-button distractions like the plague. Smart.

    Replies: @e

  12. @Steve Sailer
    @Kyle a

    That was in SoCal? The wind-blown umbrella killed a lady visiting the site:

    http://www.victoria4edit.com/blog/christo-and-the-umbrellas-%E2%80%93-triumph-and-tragedy-in-a-world-of-umbrellas/

    Replies: @SPMoore8, @Kyle a

    No, the umbrella installation was different, the wall was built inland from Point Reyes, if I recall. That’s what the terrain looks like, anyway.

  13. @Anonymous
    Trump promoted Manafort yesterday to El Jefe Supreme Commander of the general campaign.

    Good week for the Trump army. Too bad he chose wrong on the tranny bathroom issue.

    Also he should've been hammering the Affirmative Furthering section 8 catastrophe all week. McConnell just snuck it through the senate today.

    Those two issues are horses he could've rode the whole way. But, no.

    Still Hillary and her minions in the media seem rattled already.

    Replies: @Winthorp, @Luke Lea

    I’d like to see pushback on AFFH too, but I can see how the Trump campaign might think it needs to steer clear. Wondering how they could frame it. Maybe Left-Right double pincer, wherein Trump does something similar to his money-in-politics move (“I know because I paid politicians off”)? Basically present this as a ploy by developers and corrupt officials to drive people out of their communities so they can cater to yuppies. That simultaneously deflects the charges of racism, reinforces his position as a champion of rooted community, and conveys to the suburbs his support.

    • Replies: @antipater_1
    @Winthorp

    Trump should attack it as liberalism's Negro Abatement Program!

  14. @Steve Sailer
    @Kyle a

    That was in SoCal? The wind-blown umbrella killed a lady visiting the site:

    http://www.victoria4edit.com/blog/christo-and-the-umbrellas-%E2%80%93-triumph-and-tragedy-in-a-world-of-umbrellas/

    Replies: @SPMoore8, @Kyle a

    Yup. That was his SoCal endeavor. He also had another exhibit that my memory fails to recall. Perhaps it was in Europe that was kind of a biggie.

    • Replies: @Ivy
    @Kyle a

    He wrapped the Pont Neuf in Paris, too

  15. Trump Should Call His Wall “Installation Art”

    The funny thing about the New Left and SJWs is that they seem to take symbolic things as seriously, or even more seriously, than real things. That makes me wonder whether a piece of art that symbolically promotes a secure border might not send then into an even greater rage than an actual border fence? They seem weird in that way.

  16. The wall, which was a cloth if I remember correctly, actually pissed off a few folks. It ran off into the Pacific Ocean, no?

  17. And wasn’t the fence a tribute to Americas 200 birthday.

  18. @Anonymous
    Trump promoted Manafort yesterday to El Jefe Supreme Commander of the general campaign.

    Good week for the Trump army. Too bad he chose wrong on the tranny bathroom issue.

    Also he should've been hammering the Affirmative Furthering section 8 catastrophe all week. McConnell just snuck it through the senate today.

    Those two issues are horses he could've rode the whole way. But, no.

    Still Hillary and her minions in the media seem rattled already.

    Replies: @Winthorp, @Luke Lea

    “Good week for the Trump army. Too bad he chose wrong on the tranny bathroom issue.”

    No, haven’t you noticed, he avoids those hot-button distractions like the plague. Smart.

    • Replies: @e
    @Luke Lea

    He could have added that neutral bathrooms were okay in "his buildings" because of all the security in his buildings. The average female has no doorman, no security for anything.

  19. @Honesthughgrant
    Just heard Mickey on a podcast on the "Ricochet" website. He was very good - as usual. He doesn't show up till near the last 1/4 - so I suggest you skip the other characters and just go straight for Mickey's portion.

    A warning - the other guys on the podcast are supposedly "conservative" - but I've yet to find any evidence of it. Mostly, they seem to be in favor of "free trade", wars in the middle east, Kvetching about how "vulgar" Trump is, and sneering at any attempt to control Immigration.

    They should invite Steve on.

    Replies: @MEH 0910, @Bugg

    Wonder if or when Steve Sailer might join Gavin McInnis’s show for an hour or 2.

    • Replies: @Jefferson
    @Bugg

    "Wonder if or when Steve Sailer might join Gavin McInnis’s show for an hour or 2."

    Is Steve extrovert enough to go on the PROUD OF YOUR BOY show? He seems to like to keep a very low profile.

    , @Laugh Track
    @Bugg

    As much as I generally enjoy Gavin's posts at Takimag, I'd suggest Steve sidestep doing an interview with Gavin on his show. Gavin's interview with Jared Taylor included several loose cannon zingers aimed at Jared, which the latter just barely managed to deflect with his remarkably unflappable focus and concentration. Gavin, I think, is truest to himself when he is giving sartorial and grooming advice (wear expensive suits and shoes, real men don't use umbrellas). Riight.

    Replies: @Harry Baldwin

  20. Years ago I saw Cristo’s Valley Curtain in Rifle Colorado during one of the 12 or so hours it was up before the wind tore it to pieces.

    Plus I stepped on Jose Feliciano’s foot at a roadhouse in Austin Texas. I didn’t mean to, but he had it coming after his atrocious version of Light My Fire.

  21. @Kyle a
    @Steve Sailer

    Yup. That was his SoCal endeavor. He also had another exhibit that my memory fails to recall. Perhaps it was in Europe that was kind of a biggie.

    Replies: @Ivy

    He wrapped the Pont Neuf in Paris, too

  22. The installation Christo put up in Central Park, the gates following the paved trails, was quite beautiful, especially after light snowfall. I’m not normally a fan of that sort of thing, but I have to give him credit.

  23. @Svigor
    Umbrellas are for cowards, they just create artificial barriers between us and water seeking a new level.

    Replies: @gruff, @TheJester

    Well they were originally intended to keep off sun (umbrella = “little shadow”). Using them against rain is a perversion.

  24. @Bugg
    @Honesthughgrant

    Wonder if or when Steve Sailer might join Gavin McInnis's show for an hour or 2.

    Replies: @Jefferson, @Laugh Track

    “Wonder if or when Steve Sailer might join Gavin McInnis’s show for an hour or 2.”

    Is Steve extrovert enough to go on the PROUD OF YOUR BOY show? He seems to like to keep a very low profile.

  25. Mr. Trump ought to tag his wall as The Safe Space Boundary.

    To Boldly Wall Where No Man Has Walled Before.

  26. Good week for the Trump army. Too bad he chose wrong on the tranny bathroom issue.

    I don’t know that he did. Is it really worth lives to take that hill? I think we have bigger fish to fry. He should use issues like this to promote the idea of States’ rights.

    No, haven’t you noticed, he avoids those hot-button distractions like the plague. Smart.

    Yep. ‘Course the damned-if-you-aren’t-the-Democrat-and-you-do-or-you-don’t media mantra is that this means his policies are “vague” or he “doesn’t know policy,” but that’s pretty weak tea.

  27. @Bugg
    @Honesthughgrant

    Wonder if or when Steve Sailer might join Gavin McInnis's show for an hour or 2.

    Replies: @Jefferson, @Laugh Track

    As much as I generally enjoy Gavin’s posts at Takimag, I’d suggest Steve sidestep doing an interview with Gavin on his show. Gavin’s interview with Jared Taylor included several loose cannon zingers aimed at Jared, which the latter just barely managed to deflect with his remarkably unflappable focus and concentration. Gavin, I think, is truest to himself when he is giving sartorial and grooming advice (wear expensive suits and shoes, real men don’t use umbrellas). Riight.

    • Replies: @Harry Baldwin
    @Laugh Track

    Agree. Tucker Carlson--one of the few pundits on Fox I have any respect for--appeared on Gavin's show and Gavin asked him how many chicks he banged before he got married. There's a Howard Stern element in Gavin.

  28. @Winthorp
    @Anonymous

    I'd like to see pushback on AFFH too, but I can see how the Trump campaign might think it needs to steer clear. Wondering how they could frame it. Maybe Left-Right double pincer, wherein Trump does something similar to his money-in-politics move ("I know because I paid politicians off")? Basically present this as a ploy by developers and corrupt officials to drive people out of their communities so they can cater to yuppies. That simultaneously deflects the charges of racism, reinforces his position as a champion of rooted community, and conveys to the suburbs his support.

    Replies: @antipater_1

    Trump should attack it as liberalism’s Negro Abatement Program!

  29. @MEH 0910
    @Honesthughgrant


    Just heard Mickey on a podcast on the “Ricochet” website. He was very good – as usual. He doesn’t show up till near the last 1/4 – so I suggest you skip the other characters and just go straight for Mickey’s portion.
     
    https://ricochet.com/podcasts/build-that-wall/
    49:36 minutes in.

    Replies: @Jim Don Bob

    I used to listen to these guys a few years back until they put them behind their subscriber wall. Are they back to being free?

  30. @Laugh Track
    @Bugg

    As much as I generally enjoy Gavin's posts at Takimag, I'd suggest Steve sidestep doing an interview with Gavin on his show. Gavin's interview with Jared Taylor included several loose cannon zingers aimed at Jared, which the latter just barely managed to deflect with his remarkably unflappable focus and concentration. Gavin, I think, is truest to himself when he is giving sartorial and grooming advice (wear expensive suits and shoes, real men don't use umbrellas). Riight.

    Replies: @Harry Baldwin

    Agree. Tucker Carlson–one of the few pundits on Fox I have any respect for–appeared on Gavin’s show and Gavin asked him how many chicks he banged before he got married. There’s a Howard Stern element in Gavin.

  31. @Svigor
    Umbrellas are for cowards, they just create artificial barriers between us and water seeking a new level.

    Replies: @gruff, @TheJester

    Be careful, Svigor. You might start a movement against umbrellas as being “anti-natural” … part of the War Against Nature with White cisgendered males being at fault (again). If it catches on, I would anticipate a policy letter from Hussein Obama that government contractors, schools, universities, and state governments could face lawsuits or the loss of Federal funding for tolerating umbrellas on their grounds or inside their buildings.

    Is this does happen, I predict (as so often has happened in the Obama administration) that the driving force for this policy will be traced back to Samantha Power. Samantha is well known for her belief that anything that interferes with the free flow of cosmic energy and violates the Law of Karma condemns the human race to more suffering. Hence, under the principle of RtP (Responsibility to Protect), if would necessarily follow that umbrellas be banned as fundamental principles of domestic and foreign policy.

  32. Tucker Carlson–one of the few pundits on Fox I have any respect for

    What Carlson said about Beck after the Zuck meetup was pretty funny. Basically called him a cuck.

  33. Haven’t y’all heard: the wall’s off the agenda!

    Trump surrogate Rep. Chris Collins says it was a metaphor. The deportations aren’t real either:

    http://politicsnow.buffalonews.com/2016/05/17/trumps-promise-of-wall-is-virtual-and-deportations-are-rhetorical-collins-says-in-news-interview/

    • Replies: @rod1963
    @Stephen R. Diamond

    He's not a Trump surrogate, fact is his voting record shows him to be a pro-Amnesty Cuck, who is more than likely to oppose Trump in Congress.

    Basically anything out of this clown's mouth is a lie.

    Look by now the only reason any GOP rep is supporting him so as not to piss off the Trump supporters who see them as people to be voted out of office.

    The closet Trump has to a surrogate is Roger Stone.

    Replies: @Stephen R. Diamond

  34. @Stephen R. Diamond
    Haven't y'all heard: the wall's off the agenda!

    Trump surrogate Rep. Chris Collins says it was a metaphor. The deportations aren't real either:

    http://politicsnow.buffalonews.com/2016/05/17/trumps-promise-of-wall-is-virtual-and-deportations-are-rhetorical-collins-says-in-news-interview/

    Replies: @rod1963

    He’s not a Trump surrogate, fact is his voting record shows him to be a pro-Amnesty Cuck, who is more than likely to oppose Trump in Congress.

    Basically anything out of this clown’s mouth is a lie.

    Look by now the only reason any GOP rep is supporting him so as not to piss off the Trump supporters who see them as people to be voted out of office.

    The closet Trump has to a surrogate is Roger Stone.

    • Replies: @Stephen R. Diamond
    @rod1963

    Well, he claims to speak for Trump. If he's misrepresenting himself as a surrogate, Trump should correct the deceit.

    [Actually, I'm wrong.: "“I’m not speaking for Donald,” Collins said. “Those were my opinions.”]

  35. @Luke Lea
    @Anonymous

    "Good week for the Trump army. Too bad he chose wrong on the tranny bathroom issue."

    No, haven't you noticed, he avoids those hot-button distractions like the plague. Smart.

    Replies: @e

    He could have added that neutral bathrooms were okay in “his buildings” because of all the security in his buildings. The average female has no doorman, no security for anything.

  36. I prefer Claes O to Christo:

    http://www.walkerart.org/collections/artworks/spoonbridge-and-cherry

    Christo just reminds me of fake lard shortening, and that unforgettable scene on the slab in Randy Shilts’s And the Band Played On.

  37. @rod1963
    @Stephen R. Diamond

    He's not a Trump surrogate, fact is his voting record shows him to be a pro-Amnesty Cuck, who is more than likely to oppose Trump in Congress.

    Basically anything out of this clown's mouth is a lie.

    Look by now the only reason any GOP rep is supporting him so as not to piss off the Trump supporters who see them as people to be voted out of office.

    The closet Trump has to a surrogate is Roger Stone.

    Replies: @Stephen R. Diamond

    Well, he claims to speak for Trump. If he’s misrepresenting himself as a surrogate, Trump should correct the deceit.

    [Actually, I’m wrong.: ““I’m not speaking for Donald,” Collins said. “Those were my opinions.”]

  38. @Kyle a
    Thanks for the memory from this Sonoma county native. Do you recall one of his umbrellas busting lose and causing physical damage to an individual?

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Kristen

    I was teaching in a Miami college when Christo decided to “wrap” the islands pink. The excitement in the art department (not mine) was palpable. Together, art profs boated to the place of “art” to help move the pink plastic. One guy fell off the boat and was barely rescued in time — it could have been a second Christo fatality!

  39. Great. The professional political bs artists are going to be allowed to contaminate the name, honor and schtick of the professional fine artists.
    Um, wait a minute.
    Maybe we got that backward.
    Um, never mind.

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