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From Slate:
How Trump Sucks Up to Minorities
By scaring them about other minorities.By William Saletan
Donald Trump says he loves minorities. “Nothing means more to me than working to make our party the home of the African-American vote,” he told a white crowd in Iowa over the weekend. As evidence, he cited “what’s been happening over the last two weeks and three weeks with me”—a series of speeches in which Trump, according to himself, has been reaching out to blacks and Hispanics.
I’ve watched these speeches. They’re a perfect encapsulation of who Trump is. While mouthing platitudes about inclusiveness, he systematically courts certain minorities—or, rather, courts white voters who are skittish about supporting a racist—by pledging to protect them from other minorities. Even when he poses as the candidate of love and unity, Trump reveals himself as the candidate of hostility and division.
In contrast, a good, moral white person like Hillary unites all minorities by telling them to hate white people.
Sure, black, Hispanics, Chinese, Hindus, Muslims, and American Indians might not have much in common, but they can all unite around hating white people.
Fearing and loathing white people is the KKKrazy Glue that holds together the Democrats’ Coalition of the Fringes.
But of course Hillary is a white person, so she doesn’t mean white people, she means white men.
Actually, let’s refine it to straight white men. Sure, a Muslim murdered 49 gays in Orlando in June, but, really, when you think about it, it was caused by straight white men.
And if they wear dresses, they’re on the good team too.
Really, what we are talking about are cisgender straight white male swimmers like Brock Turner, Ryan Lochte, and Haven Monahan.
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The irony of this is that the Democratic Party exists specifically as a coalition-of-the-fringes party. So how dare Trump try to splinter off one of the fringes?
Gee, Steve, with counter-analysis like yours, you’re making it highly unlikely that you’ll ever sell a piece to Slate!
Donald Trump = the Haven Monahan candidate
Once again, one’s man’s indictment is another’s manifesto.
Saletan’s piece starts to take on a tone of “No faiiiiir, he’s fighting baaaaack…!”
The world has reached peak whiteness. The good People of the planet are sick of the prejudice and privilege. We are fighting back. Don’t like it? Tough beans
Please don't stop posting. I mean that sincerely.
You never fail to crack me up.
Please don’t stop posting. I mean that sincerely.
I think we need to go back to the good old days when we hanged rapists:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3767301/Muslim-refugee-20-raped-10-year-old-boy-bedroom-claimed-culturally-acceptable-sexually-assault-children-homeland.html
That magic dirt is just not working.
It’s not going to work though. Blacks assume, probably rightly, that if you’re “racist” against Hispanics and Muslims, you’re probably “racist” against them too, since blacks have the worst qualities of any race.
That’s why Trump is doing even worse than Republicans usually do among blacks.
But from a policy perspective pretty darn obviously the people most hurt by competition from illegal aliens are "Hispanic" Americans. It's hard to see how Trump's policy proposals around immigration are the least bit "racist" against Hispanics.Replies: @SFG, @The most deplorable one
Yes, they are fighting back by raping and killing their own kind.
Somebody once won 4 elections in a row as the ‘candidate of the fringes’
Northern Blacks, union activists, artistes, Whites in the Tennessee Valley, Jews, people who were so poor they couldn’t afford telephones, people in the nascent MIC, the lazier sort of farmers, federal workers, anti-Long Louisianans, the more ambitious Catholics and a few others.
It can be done, and over a long period of time.
The universe of fringe groups is not just expanding away from each other, they are accelerating away from each other.
That's why Trump is doing even worse than Republicans usually do among blacks.Replies: @scrivener3, @AnotherDad, @bomag, @anon
Why do you say Trump is racist against hispanics? He is against illegal immigration. Perhaps that is racist in your book because doing something about it impacts hispanics more than other groups, but by that standard the progressive income tax is racist against whites and jews.
“Really, what we are talking about are cisgender straight white male swimmers like Brock Turner, Ryan Lochte, and Haven Monahan.”
Or Burt Lancaster:
I’d refine it further: “straight, White, Christian men”; or maybe even “straight White men who adhere to traditional Christian beliefs and practices”
White men who adhere to Christian beliefs/practices are maybe 10 percent of the whole population. Almost a fringe in themselves.
Atheists/irreligious people as part of the coalition of the fringes is so 2003.
The fringe doesn't need them anymore.
Right now liberals are probably trying to figure out how to bring deeply religious types on board, actually. They have a better shot pulling in religious white men like David French than normal white guys.
Saletan’s the guy who had the smart spanked out of him for daring to gently try out the truth about race and intelligence over at Slate about 4 years ago. I’m sure he won’t ever make that mistake again. Granddad used to say, never underestimate what a man will do to keep a good- paying job. So true.
Relax, I’m using “racist” in the media sense.
Sailer brings up the Coalition of the Fringes concept a lot, and it is a useful concept, but the hypocritical dishonesty inherent in Saletan’s article is clear for all to see. The Dems have been running on an openly anti white male platform since at least 2012. Did these scumguzzlers really think there would be no backlash? We are living in interesting times. I want to hear predictions for 2020.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPXHRX8Q2hsReplies: @Lagertha
That is the real fear of the MSM. They know Trump can win if he gets enough white votes in the critical states. And the best means of preventing him from getting those voters is for them to be cowed into voting against Trump because of his supposed racism.
So when Trump speaks fondly about blacks and seems genuinely concerned about their economic plight and safety concerns, he lets those skittish whites become comfortable with him.
It’s really a good move on his part.
Fearing and loathing white people is the KKKrazy Glue that holds together the Democrats’ Coalition of the Fringes.
This is better rhetoric–and certainly more accurate–than grievances. But would the ADL or SPLC use it? They would probably go with some firm of “hate” or -ism. Something to consider.
Is there ever a case where the majority requires protection from the minority? Besides the parking lot at Yankee stadium. As in an actual society; is there ever a case where the minority screws the majority? Can ya think of any cases like that? Jeez I can. So maybe the idea that minorities are always victims is… not correct. Minorites are often pretty good victimizers.
KKKrazy Glue: the fifth fundamental force of nature.
I thought Tiny D. was a white guy SJW. I am not sure, but does anyone recall any of his earlier posts where he indicated that? I seem to recall him labeling himself as some sort of enlightened white, not a POC.
If he did ID himself as a good white, then he better tighten up his game over the next two months. We can’t have our favorite troll contradicting himself.
Consensus: he's playing the roll of acerbic troll.
Some think he is kool-aid soaked cannon fodder.Replies: @pepperinmono
David Cole points out some under-reported fraying at the fringes: http://takimag.com/article/las_dirty_little_brown_secret_david_cole
Its pretty strong KKKrazy Glue. After all, one of the big movers of the rotten-ness of the West is how Upper Class women, who used to run great estates and noble houses, while their men were off at war, adventuring, exploring, or serving in Parliament, have nothing to do but stew in their own resentment.
The case of the Orange County Lawyer woman who graduated from Boalt Hall at Berkeley, and her uber-lawyer husband who made over $400K a year, who planted drugs on some working class White woman in Irvine over a petty grudge is instructive. Upper Class women are descended from women who for over a thousand years bossed people around running estates, manors, etc. Now they have nothing to do and it eats at them; raising grudges to hate hate hates.
Betty Friedan lived in a Hudson River mansion with a passel of servants. But had nothing to do of any note; no wonder her life was filled with hate hate hate. The KKKrazy Glue is built on the foundation of Upper Class women (and their appeasing/placating beta male husbands) resentment of those who don’t “know their place.” Like a PTA mom who lives in an apartment.
And yet The Feminine Mystique became required reading for an entire generation of supposedly "educated" "womyn." If that's not concrete proof that our society is 100% FUBAR... I don't know what is.Replies: @SFG
That's why Trump is doing even worse than Republicans usually do among blacks.Replies: @scrivener3, @AnotherDad, @bomag, @anon
Trump did say unflattering things about Mexicans illegals.
But from a policy perspective pretty darn obviously the people most hurt by competition from illegal aliens are “Hispanic” Americans. It’s hard to see how Trump’s policy proposals around immigration are the least bit “racist” against Hispanics.
The case of the Orange County Lawyer woman who graduated from Boalt Hall at Berkeley, and her uber-lawyer husband who made over $400K a year, who planted drugs on some working class White woman in Irvine over a petty grudge is instructive. Upper Class women are descended from women who for over a thousand years bossed people around running estates, manors, etc. Now they have nothing to do and it eats at them; raising grudges to hate hate hates.
Betty Friedan lived in a Hudson River mansion with a passel of servants. But had nothing to do of any note; no wonder her life was filled with hate hate hate. The KKKrazy Glue is built on the foundation of Upper Class women (and their appeasing/placating beta male husbands) resentment of those who don't "know their place." Like a PTA mom who lives in an apartment.Replies: @Dr. X
Betty Friedan was a Jewess who, only 18 years after the liberation of Auschwitz, wrote that the life of a suburban housewife was just as psychologically crippling as that of a Nazi concentration camp inmate.
And yet The Feminine Mystique became required reading for an entire generation of supposedly “educated” “womyn.” If that’s not concrete proof that our society is 100% FUBAR… I don’t know what is.
See, guys? This is why intermarriage rates are over 50%.
But from a policy perspective pretty darn obviously the people most hurt by competition from illegal aliens are "Hispanic" Americans. It's hard to see how Trump's policy proposals around immigration are the least bit "racist" against Hispanics.Replies: @SFG, @The most deplorable one
That’s what gets me. Why does being Hispanic mean you have to support illegal immigration? If nothing else it drags you down through stereotyping. If I come over legally from Guatemala or Argentina through a visa, why do I have to support some guy who snuck over the border?
ask clarence thomas. he might have some insight about this matter.
And yet The Feminine Mystique became required reading for an entire generation of supposedly "educated" "womyn." If that's not concrete proof that our society is 100% FUBAR... I don't know what is.Replies: @SFG
Godwin before Godwin, eh? I think Gloria Steinem said a woman reading a pornography book is like a Jew reading a Nazi manual.
See, guys? This is why intermarriage rates are over 50%.
And Asians.
> Why does being Hispanic mean you have to support illegal immigration?<
ask clarence thomas. he might have some insight about this matter.
But from a policy perspective pretty darn obviously the people most hurt by competition from illegal aliens are "Hispanic" Americans. It's hard to see how Trump's policy proposals around immigration are the least bit "racist" against Hispanics.Replies: @SFG, @The most deplorable one
No.
There are three groups of people hurt by competition fro illegal aliens:
1.Black citizens who are predominantly low-wage. Hispanics can do their jobs and are often more reliable.
2. Young white, black and Hispanic Americans who do not have the smarts to compete on Wall Street or in the Streets of San Francisco or San Jose. These people used to be able to get low-wage entry-level jobs but those are now tied down by illegals. These Americans can no longer gain an entry in the workforce and will become long-term unemployed people.
3. Hispanics, who find the competition from illegal Hispanics to hurt them a lot as well, but since a lot of them were illegals who got amnesty, I don’t have much sympathy.
I am not sure that I have the order of 1 and 2 correct.
1) Teenagers used to get entry level jobs to help build their work experience. Immigrants, both legal and legal, hurt their chances here.
2) Ex-cons used to come out of prison and get jobs like roofing. I am not talking about violent felons. I am talking about guys who did time for non-violent offenses. If they can't get jobs, it might cause them to go back to crime to pay the bills.
One can argue that in terms of its overall history, blacks as a group have been hurt the worst by the whole program of mass immigration. Opening the labor market to the world means that there is pretty much always someone who can do the job for less, with less trouble than the local unskilled black population. Essentially they've been turned into clients of the state--supported by government employment, "discrimination" lawsuit prophylactic hiring and welfare.
My point though is that because legal Hispanics have the closest skill match to the new illegal arrivals coming in they are the ones most directly in competition ergo most directly affected today. This is especially true, because the illegals tend to settle in the existing Hispanic neighborhoods so are directly competing in the same labor markets.Replies: @unpc downunder
“I want to hear predictions for 2020,” left me no chance, no-way-no-chance to get you & everyone to laugh, and to simultaneously, honor a dearly departed.
Of course, I strayed onto Pat B’s site tonight like an idiot (?!!?? what did I just do?!!! – brain short circuiting) to make a point that Trump should visit Angela next: Mexico, check; Angela, check; Putin, Hollande, etc…after Labor Day or 9/11 Day.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPXHRX8Q2hsReplies: @Lagertha
my point is: everyone is getting more skeptical, cynical, ill-at-ease…the more that servers, blackberries, deaths rising in Chicago, job loss in manufacturing/retail ( Sikorsky; Walmart, Macy’s), etc. is mentioned daily, the more voters feel the ground is shifting under their feet. And, oh yeah, a hurricane is on its way in the East Coast…following Louisiana flooding. People are getting jumpy – ALL people. Nothing seems secure. So, Trump is in a good position to take on a “take charge” attitude…get people to see that “this is a time to make things work for the good of all, all citizens.”
#NeverForget the Red Terror
It’s almost as if communism never happened.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3767301/Muslim-refugee-20-raped-10-year-old-boy-bedroom-claimed-culturally-acceptable-sexually-assault-children-homeland.html
That magic dirt is just not working.Replies: @L Woods, @anon
Funny how this one isn’t being bleated about by the fashionably outraged on social media, despite involving an actual pedophile rapist. Instead, the legions of internet tough guys signal their virtue by publicly frothing over the latest white male “rapist.”
Let’s add a couple more groups, which overlap with the ones you mentioned.
1) Teenagers used to get entry level jobs to help build their work experience. Immigrants, both legal and legal, hurt their chances here.
2) Ex-cons used to come out of prison and get jobs like roofing. I am not talking about violent felons. I am talking about guys who did time for non-violent offenses. If they can’t get jobs, it might cause them to go back to crime to pay the bills.
If he did ID himself as a good white, then he better tighten up his game over the next two months. We can't have our favorite troll contradicting himself.Replies: @Anonymous, @bomag
He, or somebody like him, has been spamming “alt-right” sites since before there was an alt-right, always with the same terse and rather autistic messages. He’s been taunting alt-righters with repetitive “white chicks only want da black mens” posts since 2007 or so. …
Agree those groups are hit–and basically it’s *all* working class Americans.
One can argue that in terms of its overall history, blacks as a group have been hurt the worst by the whole program of mass immigration. Opening the labor market to the world means that there is pretty much always someone who can do the job for less, with less trouble than the local unskilled black population. Essentially they’ve been turned into clients of the state–supported by government employment, “discrimination” lawsuit prophylactic hiring and welfare.
My point though is that because legal Hispanics have the closest skill match to the new illegal arrivals coming in they are the ones most directly in competition ergo most directly affected today. This is especially true, because the illegals tend to settle in the existing Hispanic neighborhoods so are directly competing in the same labor markets.
That's why Trump is doing even worse than Republicans usually do among blacks.Replies: @scrivener3, @AnotherDad, @bomag, @anon
This highlights the Zeno’s paradox of race relations: we must always do more for the aggrieved, and any step away from increased sympathy is just way too far.
Inspired by today’s Dilbert.
True, but the groups you list had a whole lot more in common back then than today’s coalition.
The universe of fringe groups is not just expanding away from each other, they are accelerating away from each other.
If he did ID himself as a good white, then he better tighten up his game over the next two months. We can't have our favorite troll contradicting himself.Replies: @Anonymous, @bomag
T.D. indicates that he is a pale male down with the struggle.
Consensus: he’s playing the roll of acerbic troll.
Some think he is kool-aid soaked cannon fodder.
Thought Tiny D could be real troll Steve let post for fun.
(Or maybe even Steve himself).
Today's post his heart was not in it.
Pretty good pseudotroll after all.
"Tough beans" dead giveaway.
aren´t asian males by now members of the villain group? or are they simply ignored and in no group at all
The real essence of the ‘coalition of the fringes’ or ‘Totem Pole, what have you, is ‘looting’ and ‘goodies’ To very very simple concepts that have strong appeal to the Katrina-like mind.
Or, to put it another way, it’s ‘Willie Sutton’s law’ – “that’s where the money is”.
The implicit assumption – even from mega-rich corporate whores like the Hildebeast – is that if you simply nod and wink at that great big storehouse of ‘wealth, power etc’ that belongs to ( an unworthy)’ someone else’, that is white males, then that there’s incentive enough to get the combined ‘minority’ (this includes white women) on your side.
It really is as low, simple and animalistic as that. There is no need for further elaboration. It’s like the hyena guiding the vulture.
One can argue that in terms of its overall history, blacks as a group have been hurt the worst by the whole program of mass immigration. Opening the labor market to the world means that there is pretty much always someone who can do the job for less, with less trouble than the local unskilled black population. Essentially they've been turned into clients of the state--supported by government employment, "discrimination" lawsuit prophylactic hiring and welfare.
My point though is that because legal Hispanics have the closest skill match to the new illegal arrivals coming in they are the ones most directly in competition ergo most directly affected today. This is especially true, because the illegals tend to settle in the existing Hispanic neighborhoods so are directly competing in the same labor markets.Replies: @unpc downunder
Yes, once we finally get rid of those pesky straight white males then everyone else can finally live in peace. White lesbians and misogynistic muslim males, white nationalist homosexuals and BLM activists, working class white women and muslim women in burkas, upper middle class white women and Hispanic gang members, puritanical white feminists and black gangsta rappers – all living together in peace and harmony.
Consensus: he's playing the roll of acerbic troll.
Some think he is kool-aid soaked cannon fodder.Replies: @pepperinmono
Relatively new to site.
Thought Tiny D could be real troll Steve let post for fun.
(Or maybe even Steve himself).
Today’s post his heart was not in it.
Pretty good pseudotroll after all.
“Tough beans” dead giveaway.
Huh?
White men who adhere to Christian beliefs/practices are maybe 10 percent of the whole population. Almost a fringe in themselves.
Atheists/irreligious people as part of the coalition of the fringes is so 2003.
The fringe doesn’t need them anymore.
Right now liberals are probably trying to figure out how to bring deeply religious types on board, actually. They have a better shot pulling in religious white men like David French than normal white guys.
Boston just had the arraignment of the 4th Uber driver to be arrested in the past 2 years for rape/sexual assault. Guess what they all have in common?
http://www.bostonherald.com/news/local_coverage/2016/09/another_boston_uber_driver_nabbed_on_rape_charges
Quite.
It goes to show that if they shout loud enough an anti-white, anti-male, anti-Christian, heterophobic group can convince the world they’re anti-racist, anti-sexist, anti-bigotry and anti-homophobia.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3767301/Muslim-refugee-20-raped-10-year-old-boy-bedroom-claimed-culturally-acceptable-sexually-assault-children-homeland.html
That magic dirt is just not working.Replies: @L Woods, @anon
Yes
That's why Trump is doing even worse than Republicans usually do among blacks.Replies: @scrivener3, @AnotherDad, @bomag, @anon
don’t believe the polls
Or Burt Lancaster:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yIegoQAayFsReplies: @Mr. Anon
Burt Lancaster wasn’t exactly straight.
I noticed from the picture, that he gets the standard issue white lesbian public defender. Those lesbians – always making sure that rapists get a break.
Thanks for the great insight. I’ll take the word of an anonymous internet commentator over those of 10-20 different organizations who have people dedicated full time to measuring public opinion and put their reputations on the line. You’ve truly opened my eyes.
http://akinokure.blogspot.co.uk/
one of dozens of examples
http://akinokure.blogspot.co.uk/
Asians are ignored because we’re inconvenient for leftists unless we’re claiming to be victims. But they can’t ignore us forever. The only people I know who are more right-wing than me are other Asians.
He’s kind of right. I don’t love Donald Trump. I don’t care for “inclusive” or “diverse” talk. I don’t like being on on the receiving end of racism.
But I hate equality and western social values a lot more than any of those things.