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  1. Curle says:

    I dunno but look, another DESPITE headline! They are everywhere. I know our controllers mean business when they notice something they want me to notice and include an DESPITE. Were DESPITE headlines a big thing b/f the great awokening (excepting that Butterfield guy)?

    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/jd-vance-didnt-mention-trump-ohio-senate-victory-speech-despite-endorsement

    • Replies: @Hypnotoad666
  2. Is Trump going to give a speech 2-hour-long rambling series of sound bites, platitudes, bragging, name-calling, and bullshitting, which is still a lot of fun to go to?

    I don’t know. Let me know when Ron DeSantis is coming to my area.

  3. For you Trump-supporting old-timers who used to watch cartoons on Saturday mornings:

    (One of the 10 or 20 funniest videos I’ve ever seen on youtube… I mean excepting the cats, of course.)

  4. I hope he doesn’t run again. He was an effective president and certainly a better option than HRC and Sleepy Joe.

    However, to be a successful Republican politician in 2024 you need to be the Happy Warrior. It’s a given that the Establishment and MSM will be against you and fight unfair.
    But, you’ve got to laugh it off and point out how ridiculous they are. Trump was able to do that in 2016 and that is one of the major reasons he won.

    Now he is just too bitter and angry. He may have valid reasons to be angry, but that doesn’t make him an effective leader or politician.

    • Agree: Meretricious, Twinkie, BosTex
    • Replies: @Cagey Beast
    , @Curle
    , @JR Ewing
  5. OT but I suspect that Trump will be preempted by the possible start of WW III.

    This https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QYnw5mDYsX4 reminds me of this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Invasion_of_Poland.

    When analyzing hegemon propaganda it’s always useful to ask who benefits:

    (1) Why would the Russian Federation want to give NATO an excuse for converting the USA/NATO/EU hegemon’s currently somewhat limited involvement in its Ukraine proxy war against Russia into a full-scale NATO military involvement?

    (2) Why would the USA/NATO/EU hegemon want an excuse for full scale entry into the proxy war just before winter conditions allow the Russians the opportunity for a full-scale military engagement with overextended Ukrainian forces?

    We are heading towards a full-scale military conflict in Europe, with a frightening possibility that it will escalate into nuclear war and the current official leader of the US hegemon is so far into senile dementia that he now has trouble reading the notes his handlers provide him.

    What truly frightens me is the apparent insouciance of the USA’s foreign policy and military leaders and MSM propaganda mill regarding this dangerous escalation

  6. A new push for amnesty.

    This too.

  7. Joe Biden will DESTROY The Cheeto, just like last time. PEACE from Dalian, PRC!

    • Replies: @JR Foley
  8. • Replies: @JimDandy
  9. Anon[555] • Disclaimer says:

    Why? To whom? Who cares?

  10. @NJ Transit Commuter

    Trump needs “pessimism of the intellect, optimism of the will”, as the Marxists say. Gramsci believed in the power of positive thinking but wasn’t into the whole prosperity gospel thing, so that’s where he and Norman Vincent Peale parted ways.

    “I’m a pessimist because of intelligence, but an optimist because of will.”
    Antonio Gramsci in a Letter from Prison (December 1929)

    • Thanks: Hypnotoad666
  11. Cato says:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Hilarious! Great find. Makes me almost want Trump back, so that we can still have these laughs. Well, on second thought, maybe not.

    BTW: the funniest thing on youtube has to be the Montreal-based “Just for Laughs” — a contemporary Candid Camera.

  12. Trump should say something about this latest Polish-British false flag to start WW3. (Russian Telegram is saying this, and they’ve been pretty spot on so far) He could regain his mojo by once again staking out the peace position (THE most valuable thing he has to offer right now) and clearly stating “no American lives for Ukraine.” Or for provocative Poland.

    • Agree: J.Ross
    • Replies: @HammerJack
  13. Lucky Russkie!

  14. Anonymous[366] • Disclaimer says:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    I don’t know. Let me know when Ron DeSantis is coming to my area.

    While in Congress DeSantis supported the Maidan coup in Ukraine and then supported providing offensive weapons to the puppet regime in Kiev.

    DeSantis’ campaign advisors are the very same advisors who ran Zelensky’s political campaign.

    I’m a conservative Catholic and I’d never vote for DeSantis for president. I doubt I’m alone feeling this way. OTOH I’d crawl to my polling place to vote for DJT.

    • Thanks: J.Ross
  15. He was losing independents in 2019 and they have an even lower opinion of him now.

    A repeat of 2020 would just be a few more swing states to the Democrats.

    Majority of independents don’t want Trump to run again
    https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-poll-independents-2024-1741078

    I warned about this in 2019 but was told by the Trump Tribe that I was just being negative and following the MSM. Well I guess they showed me. Red hats and bumper stickers on jacked up trucks really changed the data.

    I’m not convinced that DeSantis is a good idea either. He is a tricky politician but I’m not sure if his bag of tricks would work outside of Florida.

    Pence seems like a better move and paired with a moderate female Republican.

  16. OT:

  17. @John Johnson

    I’m not convinced that DeSantis is a good idea either. He is a tricky politician but I’m not sure if his bag of tricks would work outside of Florida.

    His primary “trick” is one of the most secure election processes of any state. So you’re right, but for the wrong reason.

    Pence seems like a better move and paired with a moderate female Republican.

    You were starting to make sense, almost, then this…

  18. If elections were like a game of soccer and winning the election was like scoring a goal, in 2016, the MSM and the dems thought if they played a good defense (“fact checking” everything he said, digging up unflattering soundbites to malign him, asking him unfair “gotcha” questions) they’d stop him from scoring. However he snuck past the defense and managed to score a goal.

    It’s been 6 long years and the MSM/establishment has wised up considerably. They’ve used every dirty trick in the book to tire the American people of Trump and prevent him from running again. Orchestrating the January 6 “Insurrection” gave them a way to legally bar Trump from ever running again (see iSteve’s post about the constitutional ban on insurrectionists from running for president. The killing of the Hunter Biden laptop story was the moment that I realized that the rules of the game had been changed and the MSM will stop at nothing to ensure a Trump loss. The great replacement definitely didn’t help Trump in 2020 and will only make it that much more difficuly in 24.

    Barring a Nuclear Attack from the China on US civilians, I can’t see any way that any republican ticket, including the Trump-Desantis super ticket, would win. There are just too many hurdles and not enough going for the reps. I hope that will change, but don’t foresee it

  19. Most brazen black crime of the year month week hour, and an incel, to boot:

    According to court documents, Lynch allegedly told police he did this because he was tired of swiping on dating apps, saying, “This is me going out into the world and getting a date.”

    Woman Snatched From T Station and Raped: Court Docs Detail Horrific Ordeal

    Race of victim not given. She’s 64, he 26.

  20. Peterike says:

    He’s the last best hope. But no, the forces of Mordor have conquered all. It’s vote fraud from here to eternity. No Republican will ever be President again. It’s all over.

    It was fun while it lasted. Oh, and all you consummate retards were totally wrong about Covid. I was right. Doesn’t matter. The joke’s on us.

    Nothing left but sunset.

  21. The Democratic Party’s position on abortion is based, and the Republican Party’s position on abortion is insane. The average woman that has an abortion is aborting a fetus that will grow up to have an IQ under 95. That fetus is much more likely to pursue a life of violent crime than the average. The Republican Party policy of making it very difficult and inconvenient for poor low IQ women to get abortions means a drop in the average IQ of any future USA where Republicans are in power.

    If you actually understand human biodiversity, job one is to fight for the Democratic Party to control abortion policy.

    Job two is to implement Australia’s merit based immigration system instead of America’s current low IQ immigration system.

  22. @Reg Cæsar

    His primary “trick” is one of the most secure election processes of any state. So you’re right, but for the wrong reason.

    If the whole system was rigged then Republicans would not have won the house.

    It isn’t “by chance” that so many Trumplicans lost.

    Exit polls backed the results. Independents and moderates don’t like Trump or Trumplicans.

    As for his bag of tricks I was talking about his overall political strategy. He is good at taking down his opponents in Florida but that doesn’t mean he will do well in national debates. Like it or not he will get hammered on abortion. He has crafted an image for Florida and not America.

    I would of course take him over Biden and Trump but I’m skeptical at this point. The DeSantis that independents currently know isn’t the one that the MSM will present. They will dig up all kinds of cringe quotes from him. He shows guts for taking a stand on immigration but he is also kind of a douche.

    You were starting to make sense, almost, then this…

    Well the Trump Tribe was certain that he would win and that I wasn’t making sense.

    I pointed out early in the COVID days that he was losing support from independents for not doing enough.

    The Trump Tribe was certain that through the power of sheer will and group think he would somehow win.

    Independents decide presidential elections. People that pointed out to Democrats that independents don’t like Hillary were told they were being sexist and just scared of a female president.

    • LOL: PhysicistDave
    • Troll: James Speaks
    • Replies: @J.Ross
    , @Reg Cæsar
  23. Zelo says:

    Dave Chappelle gave a good reminder of why Donald Trump was so good back in 2016. That part is at 8 minutes and 45 seconds. I had forgotten. Chappelle also took on the taboo subject of Jews in Hollywood. He went as far as anyone could while keeping a career. Maybe.

    • Agree: JimDandy
    • Thanks: PhysicistDave
  24. It doesn’t matter who runs in 2024. As the recent election demonstrates, it’s not an election as we used to known them anymore. TPTB will never let the GOP win another presidential election.

    We are so screwed.

    • Agree: Russ, TWS
    • Replies: @Bugg
    , @Goddard
  25. Anonymous[350] • Disclaimer says:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    To be fair, nobody’s ever slung bullshit like Steve Sailer did in his tirades against Russia. Or when he was pushing that silly theory about the destruction of the Russian pipeline being something the CIA didn’t know nuffin’ about.

  26. tyrone says:

    Trump just announced. 9:23…..2024 here we come

  27. tyrone says:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Sorry Achmed ,Trump is running ,he will be the nominee , you will vote for him and be happy ……..and you know I want you to be happy.

    • Thanks: Achmed E. Newman
  28. HFR says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    @Reg Caesar: “Race of victim not given.”

    According to The Boston Globe, she speaks ‘Toisanese, a Chinese dialect” and needed to communicate through a translator.

    • Thanks: Coemgen
    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  29. @Achmed E. Newman

    Brother Achmed E. Newman,

    Only Trump can advance an America First agenda. De Santis has already been corrupted by the globalists.

    Join, or die.

  30. Yeah, Trump’s got a grotesque personality. His nasty insults sicken me. It gains him some votes, but it loses him others. I’m tired of his inarticulate, Greatest ever…biggest ever, maybe, they’re saying!

    Democrat Ed Koch as New York Mayor had the same style as Trump’s, a nasty New York style. But the Deep State didn’t try to deep six him.

    Is Biden’s personality better? I see a doddering old fool, a nasty child groper, a crude influence peddler likely compromised by rival states. But he miraculously gets the votes. Zombie Democrat Fetterman is the first Idiocrat to run for the Senate, and he won big.

    Mitt Romney is so nice, so pleasant, but his life was devoted to destroying American businesses and jobs, hurting millions of Americans, and favoring the worst of Democratic policies while rejecting their best. Paul Ryan has the guilty look of being caught at acting out a teen sex episode with an imaginary Dagny Taggart.

    Trump is terrible at policy design and execution, DeSantis is brilliant at it. But every time you look at a Republican you wonder when the warmonger, open-borders-nut, worker-chiseling, Wall Street lackey is going to suddenly pop out. However clumsy Trump is, you know he won’t back down. Jeb Bush, should hate DeSantis’ policies, but he loves DeSantis, Does Jeb know something we don’t?

  31. @Reg Cæsar

    Reg, you are reasoning with an idiot. Now both you and the pig are smeared with mud.

    • Agree: James Speaks
    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  32. OT, but the AP is reporting, “Biden ‘unlikely’ missile that hit Poland fired from Russia.” (Just copied this from an article headline.)

    In the meantime here is a quote I picked up from Zelinsky: ““Hitting NATO territory with missiles. … This is a Russian missile attack on collective security! This is a really significant escalation. Action is needed.”

    Hard to see this statement an anything other than an effort by Zelinsky to provoke a NATO – Russia war. Can we please step back and think about the consequences of giving Ukraine a blank check in its fight against Russia?

  33. J.Ross says:
    @John Johnson

    Dishonest argument from a fed troll. The wierd downticket aberrations are clearly prioritization. Essentially the same argument as saying cheating can only be discussed if evidence is accepted by a Democrat judge before a certain deadline.

    • Agree: tyrone, TWS
    • Replies: @John Johnson
  34. @Reg Cæsar

    According to court documents, Lynch allegedly told police he did this because he was tired of swiping on dating apps, saying, “This is me going out into the world and getting a date.”

    Scratch left if you don’t want to be raped.

  35. J.Ross says:
    @NJ Transit Commuter

    We deserve death for so many things but for this alone we deserve death. Imagine surrendering to illiterate goatherds without a fight and then retaining all your credibility. You wouldn’t be able to put that in a novel.

    • Replies: @Anon
  36. @New Dealer

    What has DeSantis said about Ukraine and foreign wars? I don’t know. That would be a big issue. Can we avoid WWIII. Anything is worth avoiding that.

  37. @New Dealer

    Democrat Ed Koch as New York Mayor had the same style as Trump’s, a nasty New York style.

    Ed Koch was straightforward to a fault, but he was also clever, sensitive, and savvy. He was a near-genius at political pulse-taking and was up against mountainous odds at the time. And he cared about the city. He wasn’t a stupid, self-absorbed, bloviating buffoon. Um, by NY standards I mean.

    • Replies: @kaganovitch
    , @Haxo Angmark
  38. @Achmed E. Newman

    Serious LOL. That’s exactly how Trump rambles and riffs about nothing in his oddly compelling way. And he’s exactly right: “Scooby doesn’t do, so why do we call him Scooby-Do.” This is the cartoon version of Trump telling McCain he prefers fighter pilots who don’t get shot down and captured.

    • Agree: Curle
  39. Anon[554] • Disclaimer says:

    OT: Michael Lewis has been at FTX for the last 6 months writing a book about it. That should be very interesting when it comes out. He had miraculous luck to be right there when the crypto scandal blew up.

  40. MEH 0910 says:

    • Replies: @MEH 0910
  41. Anon[271] • Disclaimer says:

    Staying out of WW3 with Russia and China are my number 1 issue. Immigration, the border, school curricula, and law&order all take a back seat. I wanna see what DeSantis thinks about this. The media has not raised the issue with him.

    Isn’t is something to know a brain-damaged guy who will probably attend the senate in a Hoodie (he campaigned in a hoodie) will be representing Pennsylvania and voting how senile old Joe’s handlers tell him too?

  42. @HFR

    According to The Boston Globe, she speaks ‘Toisanese, a Chinese dialect” and needed to communicate through a translator.

    Yeah, I was thinking she was likely Asian. That appears to be victim-demographic-of-the-season.

    • Replies: @Anon
    , @Brutusale
  43. Bill P says:

    I don’t know how many people share my take, but my dislike for Trump as a media personality made him somewhat more attractive as a candidate. His “you’re fired” schtick ribbed me the wrong way as it applied to the private sector, but imagining him applying that to DC had the opposite effect.

    Unfortunately, he didn’t live up to expectations. He hardly fired any of them, and he bent over backward to ingratiate himself with these people. Huge disappointment.

    Trump served his purpose, and now he’s just another 46’er. Yeah, a lot of people love him — not the people I want calling the shots.

    You know the whole “speak softly and carry a big stick” thing? Trump was the opposite. He just made a lot of noise and carried a wet noodle.

    Thanks but it’s over. I’m surprised the Democrats hate him so much — he was the perfect heel for them. They’ll never find another in my lifetime, I don’t think.

    Trump deserves a lot of credit for shaking things up, but that job is done. Time to rest on his laurels.

    • Agree: Achmed E. Newman
    • Replies: @James Speaks
  44. Polistra says:
    @Anonymous

    Someone here said that a DeSantis presidency would essentially be “GWB 2.0” and I think that’s accurate. He’s very much a business-as-usual Republican and to think that the Republicans are going to give us a choice between him and DJT is beyond depressing. I will admit that the Vineyard stunt was entertaining.

  45. @Charles Erwin Wilson

    Reg, you are reasoning with an idiot. Now both you and the pig are smeared with mud.

    Just gotta get him and Jenner goin’ at it. Then they’ll leave the rest of us alone.

    • LOL: James Speaks
    • Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican
  46. @NJ Transit Commuter

    OT, but the AP is reporting, “Biden ‘unlikely’ missile that hit Poland fired from Russia.” (Just copied this from an article headline.)

    He was talking about the trajectory.

    We know that Russia hit Kiev today with missiles.
    https://www.foxnews.com/world/russia-hammers-kyiv-ukraine-missiles-video-shows-fiery-aftermath

    Unlikely to be a false flag when Russia shot 85 missiles at Kiev.

    Probably just Borris shooting from inside Ukraine and goofing the coordinates.

    • Troll: Gordo
    • Replies: @Brutusale
  47. @Anon

    Michael Lewis has been writing books people want to read for a third of a century.

    • Replies: @newrouter
  48. @J.Ross

    Dishonest argument from a fed troll. The wierd downticket aberrations are clearly prioritization. Essentially the same argument as saying cheating can only be discussed if evidence is accepted by a Democrat judge before a certain deadline.

    So you think the Democrats could have turned the house through cheating if they had wanted to?

    Exit polls back the assertion that independents don’t like Trumplicans. Do you dispute those exit polls?

    Or do you believe that independents really want Trump to come back into politics even though they rejected him in 2020?

    You do realize it is a felony to take classified documents even if you just plan on sticking them next to Shaq’s shoe? Do you think most independents want to elect a felon that they rejected as a non-felon?

    “Let’s call John Johnson names instead of looking at data trends”

    – Trump Tribe 2019

    • Replies: @Curle
  49. Curle says:
    @NJ Transit Commuter

    “However, to be a successful Republican politician in 2024 you need to be the Happy Warrior.”

    The word warrior eliminates about 99% of the candidates, including Ryan and Romney. Trump seems most happy when he’s laying into the liars. He’s the Johnny Ramone of politicians.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  50. @Zelo

    It is almost as if he was letting “the jewish people” know that there are more negroes than jews.

  51. Corvinus says:
    @Charles Erwin Wilson

    Lol, Trump has Jews as advisors, lost in 2020 fair and square, and is a grifter to boot. Mr. Sailer knows these facts, but doesn’t dare say them out loud, or it’s no more free dog food.

    • Troll: Celt Darnell
    • Replies: @Colin Wright
    , @Curle
  52. Corvinus says:
    @Curle

    You mean Johnny Knoxville.

    • LOL: John Johnson
    • Replies: @Curle
  53. On the one hand, Trump has flaws.

    On the other hand, look at who hates him.

    Wouldn’t it be nice if he just endorsed DeSantis and went to bat for him?

    • Agree: John Johnson
    • Thanks: JR Ewing
    • Replies: @JR Ewing
  54. @Bill P

    Unfortunately, he didn’t live up to expectations. He hardly fired any of them, and he bent over backward to ingratiate himself with these people. Huge disappointment.

    YUGE disappointment.

    Trump served his purpose, and now he’s just another 46’er. Yeah, a lot of people love him — not the people I want calling the shots.

    Correct. He served his purpose, but now he’s trying to undo all the progress.

    You know the whole “speak softly and carry a big stick” thing? Trump was the opposite. He just made a lot of noise and carried a wet noodle.

    Speak loudly and carry a big schtick.

    Trump deserves a lot of credit for shaking things up, but that job is done. Time to rest on his laurels.

    Time to not get in the way of DeSantis.

    Ron DeSantis took Trumpet down a few notches when he said, “… in the end you realize it’s just so much noise.”

  55. @Corvinus

    ‘Lol, Trump has Jews as advisors, lost in 2020 fair and square, and is a grifter to boot…’

    Two out of three. That may be your high score to date, Corvinus.

    • Thanks: Curle
    • LOL: Celt Darnell
    • Replies: @Corvinus
  56. @Jus' Sayin'...

    To me the most frightening thought is, if Democrats were given a choice of nuclear war with Russia or a second Trump presidency, I actually think they’d choose door #1. They are part of a death cult, and we’re along for the ride.

    • Troll: Corvinus
    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
  57. @Jus' Sayin'...

    “Why would the Russian Federation want to give NATO an excuse for converting the USA/NATO/EU hegemon’s currently somewhat limited involvement in its Ukraine proxy war against Russia into a full-scale NATO military involvement?”

    I am suspicious of the report from Poland as well. Just two unfortunate souls in harm’s way when a supposed stray missle crosses 15 miles into NATO territory. Also one person managed to be the only death when an apartment complex was bombed. I could easily believe that when some people in the Ukraine or Poland died of causes unrelated to Russian military attacks those deaths were simply blamed on Russia.

    Like you, I don’t believe the story from Poland which makes the report frightening in its implications. Interesting to think someone outside the Biden administration might be generating propaganda designed to draw the US into WWIII. I am very upset at the months of Western intense involvement in the Ukrainian conflict as well as the polarizing rhetoric. Why is there no sincere effort at diplomacy?

    • Replies: @John Johnson
  58. • Agree: Colin Wright
    • Replies: @HammerJack
    , @Muggles
    , @MEH 0910
  59. @Anonymous

    Thank you for the info, #366. I just looked up some of his voting record on Ballotpedia. He was voting against the Security State (NSA for one), and was very good on the immigration invasion – well before Donald Trump read Ann Coulter’s book and got a clue about it. As for the Ukraine, who WASN’T for that Deep State Neocon stuff? There is just one Rand Paul, right?

    You’d have to give me some names for that 2nd bit, as it sounds unbelievable to me. Are you talking about the very same actual people, or just “the same [type of] people”?

    Now, I will relate to you that, rather than going back and forth following this “expert” and that, Governor DeSantis saw the Kung Flu PanicFest for what it was early on. He opened up Florida and resisted the Feral Gov’t pressure – they threatened Florida’s 2nd biggest industry, tourism. Ron DeSantis has the confidence to use his common sense, which told him that the PanicFest was just that, a program of Totalitarianism and government largess that took advantage of naive peoples’ fear of the Black Death 2.0. This was in a State known for having lots of old people, BTW.

    Ron DeSantis has principles and understands Federalism. Donald Trump, as much as he leans toward my views more than the average politician, wouldn’t know a principle if it came up and bit him on the ass.

    • Agree: Desiderius, Mark G.
  60. @wesley Arundel

    The Democratic Party’s position on abortion is based…

    The Republican Party policy of making it very difficult and inconvenient for poor low IQ women to get abortions means a drop in the average IQ of any future USA where Republicans are in power.

    We’ve actually run your experiment for 50 years. How did that turn out?

    Job two is to implement Australia’s merit based immigration system instead of America’s current low IQ immigration system.

    Where’s the “merit” in it? How do these people earn the right to enter Australia? How does it compare to the former “White Australia” (actually British Australia) policy?

    • Agree: Ron Mexico
    • Thanks: Radicalcenter
  61. @NJ Transit Commuter

    ‘OT, but the AP is reporting, “Biden ‘unlikely’ missile that hit Poland fired from Russia.” (Just copied this from an article headline.)

    ‘In the meantime here is a quote I picked up from Zelinsky: ““Hitting NATO territory with missiles. … This is a Russian missile attack on collective security! This is a really significant escalation. Action is needed.”…

    Obviously, at least one of the two isn’t reading their cue cards. Which one?

  62. Corvinus says:
    @Colin Wright

    No, he really has Jewish advisors. Why do you infer otherwise?

    “Wouldn’t it be nice if he just endorsed DeSantis and went to bat for him?“

    But that’s not what he’s going to do. So the question now is will the GOP cuck? Will De Santis take it good and hard for Team Trump?

    • Replies: @John Johnson
  63. @Polistra

    I will admit that the Vineyard stunt was entertaining.

    The Vineyard stunt was more than entertaining, Polistra. Americans have wanted to see this sort of thing for a long time. DeSantis came through. He’s the type of guy that comes through, as opposed to the bullshitter Donald Trump.

    Another example about President Trump: There was talk about fighting the “Tech Totalitarians” (VDare’s terminology for the Facebooks, twitters, etc) for years. Trump only got into this during the last couple of months of his Presidency – talking about Section 230 of the Communications Act and all that. Why? Because that’s when it was affecting him directly. Nothing matters unless it’s happening to him.

    Not for you in particular, but for anyone interested, the blogger Hail to You put up a good article on his site with lots of the family history of Ron DeSantis – he ancestry of Ron DeSantis: son of Florida, grandson of industrial Ohio, great-grandson of Italy.

  64. Curle says:
    @Corvinus

    Whatever you say. That silly Johnny Knoxville.

    “Johnny Knoxville’s net worth is a total of $75 million, most of which he earned from his time with the Jackass franchise.”

    • Replies: @Corvinus
    , @Ralph L
  65. @Curle

    Perhaps “Despite” will become as popular as “Amid” for shoehorning the facts into the reporter’s narrative: As in, “something something happened, amid increasing calls to denounce Trump as a threat to Democracy.”

    • Agree: Curle, Liza
    • Thanks: Renard
  66. @Reg Cæsar

    leave the rest of us alone

    Reg, you’re always back for more.

    • Agree: Yohann Rickey

  67. Curle says:
    @Corvinus

    “lost in 2020 fair and square”

    You conjecture.

    “and is a grifter to boot.”

    You ought to know.

    • Agree: Celt Darnell
  68. MEH 0910 says:
    @MEH 0910

    Former President Donald Trump announces 2024 presidential run

  69. Bugg says:
    @Ripple Earthdevil

    New Dem House leader is Hakeem Jeffries, an NYC hack. He ios the nephew of the insane Leonard Jeffries, he of ice and sun people nonsense. Congressman Jeffries is never asked if he shares his uncle’s loony views. But let’s keep babbling about white supremacy , nooses and Emmett Till.

    https://thenaturalfestival.com/dr-leonard-jeffries-sun-people-vs-ice-people/

    Yes, we are screwed.

    • Replies: @Muggles
  70. @Charles Erwin Wilson

    Charles, why would DeSantis strongly resist the PanicFest and pull the Martha’s Vineyard stunt if he were all down with the Globalists?

    I will add this though, in your favor. My Chinese source tells me that (if we didn’t already know) the Chinese CCP really, really HATES Trump and they did make the small moves they could to try to screw up his campaign. (OTOH, they were not the idiots that touted a Platinum Plan to give $500,000,000,000 to black people out of White people’s pockets 2 months before the election! That took only ONE idiot.)

    The CCP knows that Trump is not down with the Globalism, New World Order, Agenda 2030*, and all that. He did not, and will not, play ball with the Chinese, as opposed to Zhou Bai Dien, with a son who is on the hard drives of about 10 million Chinese computers with young girls wearing “not so muchhh”.

    They must think DeSantis is going to play along. I don’t know. Do I trust the judgement of the CCP? After all, those are the idiots now running LOCKDOWN II – Boredom ZERO!. (Anyone remember the old Mustang II commercials?) I can only trust my own judgement.

    .

    * Formerly, Agenda ’21 – Thank you, John Birch Society, for giving us 9 more years to prep!

    • Agree: Desiderius
  71. @Anon

    Michael Lewis’s signature style is to pick one character whom he portrays as the smart, irreverent protagonist battling against conventional wisdom. And then tell the story through that relatable person’s perspective. Sam Bankman-Fried presumably thought he’d be that hero/protagonist. I’m thinking he probably won’t be.

    • LOL: Curle
    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
  72. @Zelo

    YouTube count ~ 7.5 million

  73. @Anonymous

    While in Congress DeSantis supported the Maidan coup in Ukraine and then supported providing offensive weapons to the puppet regime in Kiev.

    You guys are boring. “Puppet regime” is a tell.

    This is America, not Russia. The relevant issues that determine my kids’ future are Biden’s open border, immigration, the rule-of-law. DeSantis was also great on the Covid hysteria. We had about a month of silliness … then it was over and things were back on track (wear a mask in HomeDepot which never bothered me) and the kids were back to school in the fall. (My neighbors and I agree–best immediate “bang for the buck” of any vote we’ve every cast.)

    If you’ve got DeSantis voting for amnesty or any sort of open border b.s. or soft on crime nonsense–here in America, give me a call. If you’re obsessed with the Ukrainian parliament not precisely following their constitution’s impeachment procedures in kicking out what’s his face after he ran off to Russia–and ergo was out in 2014, instead of losing (or not running) in 2015–then you should pack your bags and go whereever.

    • Agree: Twinkie
    • Thanks: Johann Ricke
    • Troll: Radicalcenter
    • Replies: @Anonymous
  74. @Unintended Consequence

    I am very upset at the months of Western intense involvement in the Ukrainian conflict as well as the polarizing rhetoric. Why is there no sincere effort at diplomacy?

    And what does that look like?

    Ukraine wants their territory back.

    Putin doesn’t want to admit it was a mistake and move back to February borders.

    Giving up Donbas isn’t merely about land. It’s also the location of the country’s coal reserves. Putin has also taken two oblasts that are not part of Donbas which shows that his “protecting Donbas” excuse is just BS.

    Russia’s GDP has been stagnant for years. Part of Putin’s plan was to boost their GDP by stealing Ukraine’s industries. Now the war will be an inevitable GDP sinkhole and Putin will want some type of monetary win.

    The US could go neutral at this point and it wouldn’t matter. Ukraine currently has the upper hand and they don’t want to give up 20% of their territory when Russia can’t even provide their conscripts with proper boots. Polls show that the public supports how Biden has handled the war. If Trump were to run on neutrality it would be a mistake. Trump in fact ran his mouth as usual at the beginning of the war and called it a smart move by Putin.

    The polls are what they are. The public isn’t in the mood for isolation as in previous wars. They are upset by the invasion and support providing military assistance but not troops. Putin launching missiles and drones at Kiev really isn’t making his case in the eyes of the world. The little dictator is clueless about war and encouraging diplomacy in his favor.

  75. anon[307] • Disclaimer says:

    trump = rock star

    desantis = cover band

    sad.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  76. @Charles Erwin Wilson

    Only Trump can advance an America Ivanka First agenda.

    Fixed it for you.

    • Agree: Mike Tre
    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  77. Curle says:
    @John Johnson

    “You do realize it is a felony to take classified documents“

    Feel free to list all the exceptions. Make sure you cite not only to the prevailing case law that both supports and undermines the government’s case but also point out where an comparable fact pattern is present. Better yet how about you summarize the legal filings to date and the significance of the cases referenced in the briefs where briefs have been filed. Think you can do that?

    • Replies: @John Johnson
  78. newrouter says:
    @Steve Sailer

    The brain addled folks who pay attention to the NYT’s “best seller” list? Mike Lewis regime hack Mr. Sailer.

  79. @Corvinus

    But that’s not what he’s going to do. So the question now is will the GOP cuck? Will De Santis take it good and hard for Team Trump?

    Now we are facing the scenario where Trump and Desantis tear each other apart and then Biden again wins by default.

    • Disagree: Radicalcenter, JR Ewing
  80. @Curle

    “You do realize it is a felony to take classified documents“

    Feel free to list all the exceptions.

    LOL you think there is some Shaq shoe exemption? For stealing Federal documents marked classified? Are you hoping he gets a ticket?

    You guys put too much faith in a sleezeball businesman. I voted for the guy but I knew he was about as trustable as a coked up car salesmen.

    It’s not me that you have to convince. Independents don’t like him. I’m an anti-globalist but I can also acknowledge when someone is done.

    Go ahead and give your speech at the RNC about how there are certain scenarios where is OK to take classified documents.

    So pathetic. You guys sound like battered housewives.

    “Well that last abuse charge was actually reduced in court and I was only in the hospital for a few hours.”

    • Replies: @Curle
    , @PhysicistDave
  81. @John Johnson

    If the whole system was rigged then Republicans would not have won the house [sic].

    You don’t have to “rig” the “whole system”, just focus your dirty work at the most sensitive points. Triage, in other words.

    Note where the Republican pick-ups took place. Where elections were secure (Florida), honest (Iowa), or so far gone politically that no one bothers to cheat anymore (downstate New York). They lost seats in more competitive states.

    The 2020 funny stuff in Wisconsin occurred in the southeast. In the southwest, Derrick Van Orden has now made the Driftless Area entirely GOP. The once-Communist Lake Superior shore already was. These two regions were traditionally Democratic, the latter overwhelmingly so. But they are generally clean at election time.

    Republicans can be forgiven for thinking it fishy when they lose– when they lose where it is already fishy.

    Election systems are not citizens. They should be considered guilty until proven innocent. Many of our practices, new and old, are illegal abroad.

    • Thanks: Russ
    • Replies: @John Johnson
  82. @Charles Erwin Wilson

    Only Trump can advance an America First agenda. De Santis has already been corrupted by the globalists.

    BTW, beyond Trump’s issues–Invanka before America, his repeated failures, intellectual “apply butt to chair” laziness and massive ego–

    in a republic there are no “indispensable men”.

    If “only” Trump can save us, then we are already dead. Trump is mortal–like the rest of us. Not to mention “old”. Someone can put a bullet in him tomorrow.

    In a republic that does not matter because you knock one leader out, there is another and another and another. We do not need a caudill0 like some Latino dumpster. America needs mature, responsible, level headed men to step up and do what’s necessary to end the tyranny of the minoritarian parasites.

    • Agree: Mr. Anon, Thea
    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    , @Curle
  83. @John Johnson

    The public isn’t in the mood for isolation as in previous wars.

    Yeah, “isolationism” is something the U.S. hasn’t really tried since 1938, but maybe you can point to a more recent vintage with which I’m unfamiliar.

    They are upset by the invasion

    No, you are upset by the invasion. Most Americans don’t care, nor should they. This is a low-rent intra-Slav fight with no good guys. Now you’ll sing the praises of the Azov Battalion.

    • Agree: HammerJack
    • Replies: @John Johnson
  84. @Reg Cæsar

    He’s a brave “man” attacking a 64-year-old woman. Actual men should see to it that he never hurts anyone again — and doesn’t cost us a ton in prison costs.

  85. @HammerJack

    He wasn’t a stupid, self-absorbed, bloviating buffoon. Um, by NY standards I mean.

    Dunno about that. There was a story about Koch back in the day that he was at a fundraiser and was introduced to a prospective donor and proceeded to chew his ear off for ten minutes about all the things he was accomplishing in office etc.etc. When he saw the guy’s eyes beginning to glaze over he said ” Alright, enough about me already. Let’s talk about you. What do you think of the job I’m doing?”

    • Replies: @HammerJack
  86. One thing DeSantis did do in Congress was to forcefully come out against the Mueller farce when the rest of the GOP there were cheering it on.

    With McConnell echoing the same nonsense the Ds are peddling about their “win” in the past election I at least know who I’m against.

    The steelman for Trump is this:

    If your country’s going to be run by a bunch of woke Ivy League legacy admits like SBF who are as long on smug arrogance as they’re short on experience, cultural literacy, common sense, simple decency, and fellow feeling with regular Americans – and it is now – then Jared Kushner has by far the best record of that bunch. And he’d have VP Trump at least articulating MAGA arguments in his ear, while the Ds now are totally oblivious to them as with much of the rest of the real world.

  87. @Bragadocious

    The public isn’t in the mood for isolation as in previous wars.

    Yeah, “isolationism” is something the U.S. hasn’t really tried since 1938, but maybe you can point to a more recent vintage with which I’m unfamiliar.

    The public wanted out of Afghanistan.
    https://thehill.com/hilltv/what-americas-thinking/562215-poll-73-percent-support-us-withdrawal-from-afghanistan-steady/

    No, you are upset by the invasion. Most Americans don’t care, nor should they.

    3/4 Americans say the US should support Ukraine. That isn’t apathy.
    https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/three-four-americans-say-us-should-support-ukraine-despite-russian-threats-2022-10-05/

    This is a low-rent intra-Slav fight with no good guys. Now you’ll sing the praises of the Azov Battalion.

    Well the world doesn’t see it that way. Putin just launched 85 missiles at Kiev. Funny his defenders here used to tell me that he doesn’t target civilians.

    Only one side is trying to take out infrastructure before a winter which is actually a war crime if people freeze.

    The great dictator changed the motive of the war to “protecting Donbas” and targets civilians in Kiev. Unless you want to tell me this apartment building was a military target:

    • Replies: @Curle
    , @Bragadocious
  88. Anonymous[280] • Disclaimer says:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Strangely enough, Jamie Foxx does a very good Trump impression:

  89. Mr. Anon says:
    @Bragadocious

    To me the most frightening thought is, if Democrats were given a choice of nuclear war with Russia or a second Trump presidency, I actually think they’d choose door #1. They are part of a death cult, and we’re along for the ride.

    We need a global thermonuclear war………………..for the children.

  90. Anonymous[182] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous

    I’m a conservative Catholic and I’d never vote for DeSantis for president.

    Why not?

    OTOH I’d crawl to my polling place to vote for DJT.

    Why?

  91. Curle says:
    @John Johnson

    “LOL ”

    LOL, You think the analysis in the briefs filed to date are solely focused on categories of records without attention to privileges, who possesses them and for how long and under what circumstances? You think that what little case law exists relative to the fact pattern present here is sufficiently dispositive to Trump’s situation that it would warrant expedited processes which somehow haven’t been granted because, erm, maybe they aren’t so easy to establish?

    Even the lawyers over at law oriented sites are trying to read the tea leaves and imagine all the applicable legal arguments but here you are with your brilliant expectation that either the codified law or the case law possesses an explicit treatment of privileges related to an pair of sneakers.

    You might in a the end be correct but likely not because of the existence of an prior case where the record laws were applied to an former president. Or where the govt sought control over records that related to relatively distant events or events made known to other governments, such as the Sampson Option records (as has been alleged in some circles).

    • Replies: @HammerJack
  92. @anon

    trump = rock star

    desantis = cover band

    A better analogy than you think. It’s common for cover bands to have more skill than the stars they cover. They just lack the imagination. Which is why they are cover bands.

    • Replies: @Desiderius
  93. Anonymous[721] • Disclaimer says:
    @wesley Arundel

    Job two is to implement Australia’s merit based immigration system instead of America’s current low IQ immigration system.

    Job One is to end immigration. Period. So-called “merit” immigration is worse than other immigration. It is stupid to allow people to come in, take the best jobs, replace your children in universities, lord it over you.

  94. @John Johnson

    My favorite Fed John Johnson wrote:

    Ukraine wants their territory back.

    The Donbass is not part of “their” territory.

    Under Article 1 of the UN Charter, the people of a region are entitled to decide for themselves what government they wish to live under: “self-etermination of peoples.”

    When the US Deep State orchestrated the 2014 Maidan putsch, the people of Western Ukraine chose to go along with the newly formed country. The people of the Donbass declined.

    The Donbass does not belong to the government of West Ukraine.

    It belongs to the people of the Donbass.

    The Fed also wrote:

    The US could go neutral at this point and it wouldn’t matter.

    Since it doesn’t matter anyway, are you willing to call for ending all US aid to Ukraine?

    You say it does not matter, but it will save the US taxpayers billions. And that does matter.

    The Fed also wrote:

    The little dictator is clueless about war and encouraging diplomacy in his favor.

    By “little dictator,” are you referring to Zelensky or Biden?

    The Fed also wrote:

    Giving up Donbas isn’t merely about land. It’s also the location of the country’s coal reserves.

    It is, in general, the richest part of the country formerly known as Ukraine, which is why Kiev is determined to conquer it.

    But they have been trying for eight long years, and they can’t.

    So, Fed, are you willing to endorse the principle of self-determination of peoples, enshrined in Article 1 of the Charter of the United Nations, as applied to the heroic people of the Donbass?

    Or are you afraid to answer that question?

    Why are you afraid to answer that question?

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    , @Muggles
  95. @Hypnotoad666

    Michael Lewis was possibly planning on having sbf as his protagonist until last week.

    • Agree: HammerJack
    • LOL: Liza
  96. @AnotherDad

    America needs mature, responsible, level headed men to step up and do what’s necessary to end the tyranny of the minoritarian parasites.

    We need weaker presidents, not stronger ones. Congress has too much power over Americans, but too little over the President.

  97. @John Johnson

    My favorite Fed John Johnson wrote to Curle:

    I’m an anti-globalist but I can also acknowledge when someone is done.

    Boy, you do enjoy lying, don’t you?

    You claim to be an “anti-globalist” but you support the US Deep State proxy war against the heroic people of the Donbass?

    Not.

    No, you are a typical Fed, supporting the ruling overclass that oppresses the people in America who produce goods and services for the actual material economy.

    Prove I’m wrong: are you willing to endorse the principle of self-determination of peoples, enshrined in Article 1 of the UN Charter, as applied to the heroic people of the Donbass?

    Or are you afraid to answer that question?

    • Replies: @Hibernian
  98. Curle says:
    @John Johnson

    Laugh #1 – Reuters.

    “The online poll of 1,005 Americans”.

    ‘Online’ – chuckle.
    ‘1,005 Americans’ – Har, har, har.

    • Replies: @John Johnson
  99. SafeNow says:

    .Today was both Trump-announcement day and war-escalation day. This summer, NY City Emergency Services released a public-services video about what to do if there is a nuclear war. It begins “So there’s been a nuclear attack.” Note the nonchalant “so.” The announcement goes on to advise going indoors for a while, hanging-out until the all-clear is given, neglecting to mention that in the huge blast radius will be no houses left to go into, or for that matter, non-vaporized people to do the going-in. One of the first things Trump might do is delegitimize this dangerous idiocy.

    • Replies: @HammerJack
  100. @Reg Cæsar

    Note where the Republican pick-ups took place. Where elections were secure (Florida), honest (Iowa), or so far gone politically that no one bothers to cheat anymore (downstate New York). They lost seats in more competitive states.

    Care to explain how a Republican won the Nevada governorship but the Trump backed candidate for Senate lost?

    If widespread cheating occurred then it would show up in exit polls. Do you dispute the exit polls that showed independents overwhelmingly rejected Trump backed candidates?

    In Arizona it was a Republican that oversaw the election results where a Democrat beat a Trumplican for governor.

    The writing is on the wall. Independents don’t like Trump and his cronies. That has been true since 2019 when he lost their support over his handling of the virus. Face the facts and move on or cheer as Team Trump embarks on yet another data-free campaign of group think and red hats. I really don’t care about which side you pick. This clown isn’t going anywhere. He won’t be able to convince independents that they can trust him to be a populist in his second term. The shaq shoe documents have sunk him even further. His best move is to endorse DeSantis and exit stage left.

    • Replies: @Desiderius
    , @Anon
  101. @Curle

    1000 is a common sample size for US polls.

    Take a stat course instead of laughing like a dunce.

    • Replies: @Curle
  102. Curle says:
    @AnotherDad

    “in a republic there are no “indispensable men”.

    What about a kleptocracy?

  103. @John Johnson

    Care to explain how a Republican won the Nevada governorship but the Trump backed candidate for Senate lost?

    Because a vote for GOP Senate candidates is a vote for Majority Leader McConnell and he’s historically unpopular, especially in swing states.

    You’re making this harder than it needs to be. You won’t get your President DeSantis if McConnell is still on the ballot in 2024.

    • Agree: Russ
  104. @PhysicistDave

    My favorite Fed John Johnson wrote:

    Mr Johnson should follow the lead of Dane Partridge, Joshua Jones, Willy Cancel, Stephen Zabielski, and Luke Lucyszyn and suit up over there himself. He could be our century’s Joyce Kilmer, putting down his pen (or stylus) and picking up a rifle.

    They have their own Foreign Legion now:

    https://fightforua.org/

    It is recommended, if available, to bring your military kit such as:

    · clothing or its elements
    · equipment
    · helmet
    · body armor
    · etc

    • Replies: @BosTex
    , @PhysicistDave
  105. With PA, MI, WI, and now AZ ruled by the Dems, there is no path to 270 electoral votes for the GOP candidate. No matter who runs.

    It’s time for a 2023 version of the Virginia Kentucky Resolutions. Will Florida, Texas, and Ohio step up?

    • Agree: Russ
    • Replies: @HammerJack
  106. Anonymous[329] • Disclaimer says:
    @AnotherDad

    If you’ve got DeSantis voting for amnesty or any sort of open border b.s. or soft on crime nonsense–here in America, give me a call.

    Ending “legal” immigration needs to be as high a priority as stopping illegal immigration.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  107. @Anonymous

    We must also end forced integration. We must have freedom of association. There are already enough non-Whites here to “mix” us out of existence.

    Every other group has the right to its own spaces.

  108. George says:

    “make America great and glorious again” = MAGGA

    I think Make America Great Again Again, MAGAA works better.

  109. Mark G. says:

    Trump’s time has come and gone. He served his purpose. He got the Republican nomination at a time when both parties ignored the white working-class vote and were both on board with an interventionist foreign policy. He changed the Republican party permanently. A recent Wall Street Journal poll found that only 37% of Republicans support additional financial assistance for the Ukraine.

    What is desperately needed now is someone who will reduce government spending and shrink the size of government. Trump didn’t do that before and is unlikely to do it if he gets in again. It’s time to give someone else a chance. I would prefer Rand Paul but would accept DeSantis. He was just outstanding on the Covid issue and very good on the immigration issue. After seeing the results of the last election, it appears to me that the public is not ready yet to give up on the idea of government as Santa Claus giving everyone presents but we need to support any candidates who are willing to go against that idea. We are rapidly heading for an economic crisis due to decades of government overspending.

    • Thanks: Hibernian, Hibernian
  110. If I were a Democrat, my glass would be filled and raised at this announcement. Trump will either win the nomination and lose the general, or lose the nomination(“it was rigged!”) and run as an independent, Perot-style. Either way, there will be Democratic rule for another 4 years; more crime, wokism, immivasion, war, etc.

  111. Russ says:

    Trump is terrible at policy design and execution, DeSantis is brilliant at it. But every time you look at a Republican you wonder when the warmonger, open-borders-nut, worker-chiseling, Wall Street lackey is going to suddenly pop out. However clumsy Trump is, you know he won’t back down. Jeb Bush, should hate DeSantis’ policies, but he loves DeSantis, Does Jeb know something we don’t?

    It appears as though this well-manicured collection of cuticles intends to control the popping-out. See what he thinks is the future of the GOP. See what he wants the next GOP president whom he funds to do:

    https://www.politico.com/news/2022/11/06/gop-megadonor-desantis-24-ken-griffin-00065274

    If it’s between Trump and Kenny Griffin’s bitch in 2024, I’ll opt for the former as the preferred up-yours candidate without hesitation. Will DeSantis play the latter role? Or will he keep his powder dry for 2028, when he would follow either a term-limited Trump or a Democrat entity.

  112. BosTex says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    Reg-

    Thanks for sharing. I know the Wollaston T stop well.

    As a college kid, I used to live over in Milton and this stop was most convenient to Park and Ride. (Had a funny incident with the police and my old college kid jalopy in the park ride lot, 1989 I think).

    Quincy is an old inner suburb of Boston (has excellent rail access to Boston) which has become heavily Chinese, so not surprised by the race of the victim. Nice beach.

    My mom moved to Quincy after she retired and my father passed on and she couldn’t take our old neighborhood.

    My God, what kind of terrible animal rapes a 64 year old woman, repeatedly? No doubt, some crazy DA will victimize her again by treating the perpetrator as the victim.

    “Getting a date”! Sick SOB.

  113. Anon[266] • Disclaimer says:
    @John Johnson

    There was no widespread cheating, rigged elections, etc. Only kooks think there was. Kooks lose. The right is over-represented by kooks, which is why the US is going left.

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
  114. JimDandy says:
    @JohnnyWalker123

    Nancy Pelosi, AKA The Bearded Lady

  115. BosTex says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    Yes. A few other suggestions for service….

    We should also volunteer HA and Curveyanus for Ukrainian Foreign Legion employment.

    For sheer vehemence we should also nominate Jack D: he may be a little too old (hope the old Russophobe is ok; we haven’t heard him in a few days).

    We need their protective services to “our democracy”.

    HA, Curvyanus. Jack D, your homeland raises its stirring patriotic call, the great homo/tranny flag, to service and (hopefully a lot, perhaps extreme) sacrifice in Ukraine!

  116. I think most people are overlooking a salient fact: Trump is too damned old.

    He’d be 78 when he started his term and 82 when he finished it. How many national leaders can you name who were vigorous and effective at that age?

    Trump’s not a good bet. I’ve got a bad feeling about this. If he doesn’t have a heart attack or a stroke, he’ll be becoming old and feeble.

    • Agree: BosTex
    • Replies: @Thoughts
    , @Desiderius
  117. ‘There was no widespread cheating, rigged elections, etc. Only kooks think there was. Kooks lose. The right is over-represented by kooks, which is why the US is going left.’

    Then ‘kooks’ are half the country. See the polls taken right after the election.

    As to your ‘non-kooks’ — open borders, keep printing money, Covid hysteria, government censorship, sexually mutilating children, an unqualified right to abortion, encouraging blacks to run amok?

    I’ll take the kooks.

    • Agree: Kylie, Harry Baldwin
  118. JimDandy says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    He sounds possibly too articulate to be a youth.

  119. Mr. Anon says:
    @Anonymous

    That’s pretty good. Perhaps Foxx could run as a black Trump.

  120. @John Johnson

    Pence seems like a better move and paired with a moderate female Republican.

    Maybe Liz Cheney or Nikki Haley?
    Perhaps we could convince Jen Rubin to run?

    • LOL: New Dealer, MEH 0910
    • Replies: @PhysicistDave
    , @George
  121. Mr. Anon says:
    @Anon

    There was no widespread cheating, rigged elections, etc.

    There never is. There is targeted cheating in swing districts where it counts.

    Democrats spent four years telling us that Trump was – literally – Hitler. Then they spent the next two years telling us that if Republicans won it would be the end of democracy, excuse me, the end of “our democracy”.

    And yet we are to believe that they would not resort to any measures necessary to defeat Hitler and save democracy – even ballot box stuffing and other forms of election chicanery.

    They can’t have it both ways. Either they just lied about what they really believed, or they cheated.

    • Replies: @Curle
    , @Desiderius
  122. @kaganovitch

    That’s an extended riff on Koch’s “How’m I doin?” catchphrase and I seriously doubt it’s genuine. Anyway Koch was Jewish so I’ll thank you not to criticize him!

    • Replies: @kaganovitch
  123. @Scott in PA

    It’s time for a 2023 version of the Virginia Kentucky Resolutions.

    Thanks for the reference. Despite being somewhat educated, I can’t remember hearing of them before.

    https://www.monticello.org/research-education/thomas-jefferson-encyclopedia/kentucky-and-virginia-resolutions/

  124. Anon[367] • Disclaimer says:
    @J.Ross

    Imagine surrendering to illiterate goatherds without a fight and then retaining all your credibility. You wouldn’t be able to put that in a novel.

    It was Red Dawn but flipped, lol.

  125. Anon[367] • Disclaimer says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    Allies against white supremacy.

  126. @Reg Cæsar

    Reg Cæsar wrote to me:

    Mr Johnson should follow the lead of Dane Partridge, Joshua Jones, Willy Cancel, Stephen Zabielski, and Luke Lucyszyn and suit up over there himself. He could be our century’s Joyce Kilmer, putting down his pen (or stylus) and picking up a rifle.

    Well, as I have said before, when Sailer and I were kids, the mainstream media never officially told us that Israel was our friend, Egypt was our foe, India was secretly aligned with the Soviets but the Pakistanis were good guys, and the French only pretended to be our allies (the wily French had somehow been nefariously pretending since 1778!).

    So those of us who were fairly good students and actually followed current events tended to be very proud of ourselves that we had figured this all out without being explicitly told.

    It was like being the first kid in the class to actually get long division or to figure out how to factor quadratic expressions. People who did not know that Israel was our friend, India was our semi-enemy, France was our fake ally, etc. were simply not as sophisticated as we were when it came to following the news about foreign affairs.

    Of course, what we really had figured out was how to swallow the establishment mainstream media propaganda without realizing we were doing so.

    It took most of us a while to realize how we were being duped: of course, the most effective propaganda is that which is merely insinuated rather than stated explicitly.

    Some guys in my generation never did figure it out. (Some of those people even joined the Council on Foreign Relations and reached high positions in the US government.)

    John Johnson seems to me to be one of those latter guys, though he may be in a younger generation than Sailer and I. He really, truly seems not to grasp how he has been fed propaganda or that people who disagree with him are not simply stupid people who lack the ability to decipher the news.

    I doubt that he can ever grasp that the insight he thinks he has is simply due to his ability to decode and blindly swallow the establishment propaganda.

    • Agree: Desiderius
    • Replies: @John Johnson
  127. @Reg Cæsar

    I agree. If JJ hasn’t yet figured out yet that it’s all about the Globalists and their drive to serfdom and whatever we can scrape up by way of populist nationalists, he’d be better off back at NRO (is that still a thing?).

  128. @John Johnson

    John Johnson wrote:

    Pence seems like a better move and paired with a moderate female Republican.

    Wouldn’t you really prefer ¡Jeb! ?

    Or how about Charlie Crist? He used to be a real Republican, just like Pence, and I hear he is available.

    • LOL: Coemgen, Russ
    • Replies: @J.Ross
  129. @TontoBubbaGoldstein

    TontoBubbaGoldstein wrote to John Johnson:

    [JJ] Pence seems like a better move and paired with a moderate female Republican.

    [TBG] Maybe Liz Cheney or Nikki Haley?
    Perhaps we could convince Jen Rubin to run?

    Nah, we need some guys whose level of intellectual functioning matches John Johnson’s: I’m thinking Bill Kristol and Max Boot — two guys whose brilliant insights on foreign policy truly rival our friend JJ.

    • LOL: Russ
  130. Thoughts says:
    @John Johnson

    There comes a point when you cannot care about winning

    I like Trump and I trust him not to start WW3 a heck of a lot more than anyone else on the continent.

    So I vote for him.

    If he loses, at least my conscious is clear and I’m not going to hell.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    , @John Johnson
  131. Thoughts says:
    @Colin Wright

    Mind over matter my friend, mind over matter

    When you want something bad enough, your body cannot stop you

  132. Curle says:
    @John Johnson

    Common for unreliability. When online useless.

    • Replies: @John Johnson
  133. Thoughts says:

    Trump struck a deep chord with me when he accused DeSantis of Disloyalty

    If you do everything in your power to help someone, and then, instead of them getting in line and supporting you…they challenge you

    That’s a very bad person.

    So Trump won me away from the DeSantis camp with his so-called ‘unhinged rant’

    There was only one correct play for DeSantis, and that was to stand with Trump, be his Vice President, and then run for President. That would have been the best for the country.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  134. Curle says:
    @Mr. Anon

    When pressed they will start with cheating on the rules to gain advantage (think 2020 pre-election lawfare to adopt last minute rules that play to their advantages in court). Their advantages include: 1) anything involving the courts typically; and 2) anything susceptible to criminality.

    Mail in ballots are very susceptible to criminality. For example in 2004 Washington governors race 1,300 ‘invalid’ ballots entered the ballot stream by being either intentionally or accidentally moved from locked invalid cage by unknown election workers. One election supervisor told opposition party what happened and was disciplined by county bosses and made to disappear until later court case where she failed to repeat earlier claim. Further bags of ballots were found in basement of polling location (black church) after the election and election authorities let them be counted. Losing party motion to preserve ballot envelopes from invalid counted votes identifying precincts was denied by judge friend of D governor on vote outing theory. In later case D win following recount by less than D % of invalid votes in county of invalids was challenged and court ruled that county average not good enough to determine D % of invalids and since better info was destroyed contra failed R preservation request, D win allowed to stand.

    • Replies: @John Johnson
    , @MB
  135. @Jus' Sayin'...

    You need to read Adam Kinzinger

    We have to show Russia no mercy

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    , @Celt Darnell
  136. Corvinus says:
    @Curle

    Sophomoric hijinks is right up your alley as well as Trump.

  137. @Bragadocious

    Sure! Unfortunately Trump is too stupid to do anything that might save his own skin, much less ours.

  138. I was half awake by the time Trump finally came on the live stream and delivered his windy oration. It was like a nightmare, an unbelievable ghastly blast from the past, seeing that face again, hearing the meandering rambles and absurd hyperboles – the favored phrase was “like never before,” over and over. It made me think of asking a hooker if she came, and that was her flattering and totally phony reply.

    What’s worse is that this oddly one-dimensional man really could be the last best hope we have of getting out of the mess the deep state has gotten us into. Which is pretty much the same as saying we are toast. Let’s hope China (with Russia) offers us more generous peace terms than we gave Germany, when we will have been bitch-slapped back into our proper relationship to the family of nations.

  139. @Curle

    All good points, but I feel constrained to point out that they’d be stronger in a society whose judiciary weren’t quite so politicized as ours.

  140. J.Ross says:
    @PhysicistDave

    Jeb Jr actually tweeted that Trump was old news and the people want “new” leadership. The entire establishment strategy is to bet that everyone is medically retarded.

    • LOL: Russ
  141. @SafeNow

    It begins “So there’s been a nuclear attack.” Note the nonchalant “so.”

  142. J.Ross says:
    @Thoughts

    This — if Trump can’t win, could freaking Romney?! If he can’t win, how exactly does that make me vote for Hillary or whoever the globohomo communist neocon filthbag option is?

  143. JR Ewing says:
    @NJ Transit Commuter

    But, you’ve got to laugh it off and point out how ridiculous they are. Trump was able to do that in 2016 and that is one of the major reasons he won.

    He won the republican nomination doing that.

    He won the general because (a) people hated Hillary Clinton more and (b) the dems rested on their laurels and got surprised.

    (a) is no longer true and the dems learned their lesson with (b) and “fortified” future elections in response.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  144. Brutusale says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    I lived three blocks from the Wollaston T station from 1992-1997. That’s when Wollaston and North Quincy were starting to yellow up. It’s at the point now where local wags call the Braintree branch of the Red Line the Orient Express.

    The area has a state representative with a great name.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tackey_Chan

    The area was heavily Irish for most of the previous 100 years, and it was a pretty close-knit community. This kid wouldn’t have made it out of the old neighborhood alive. The atomization that has occurred over the past 20 years makes these types of attacks possible.

    Fun Fact: Wollaston Station is built on the site of the first Howard Johnson’s.

    • Replies: @Coemgen
  145. Brutusale says:
    @John Johnson

    Can you fit the concept of an errant Ukie anti-missile missile landing just across the border in your cement head?

    • Agree: Hibernian
    • Replies: @Bill Jones
    , @John Johnson
  146. Coemgen says:
    @Brutusale

    Toisanese and Cantonese speaking immigrants started to settle in North Quincy and Wollaston in the 80s after the UK agreed to pass control of Hong Kong to the PRC.

    Circa 1897 I recall seeing a frontpage article in the local newspaper “The Patriot Ledger” regarding this phenomenon that included a quote from an immigrant from Hong Kong as to why he settled in Quincy. His answer: “no blacks.”

    • Replies: @Coemgen
  147. @AnotherDad

    Only Trump can advance an America Ivanka Javanka First agenda.

    Fixed it for you YOU.

    Trump’s best hire was Steven Miller. He’s a good guy.

    • Agree: Desiderius
  148. @Anonymous

    Ending “legal” immigration needs to be as high a priority as stopping illegal immigration.

    Here, #329:


    Voted Yea on: Securing America’s Future Act of 2018 (HR 4760)

    Bill Failed (193-231) on June 21, 2018
    Proposed funding a border wall, limiting legal immigration, a mandatory worker verification program, allowing DACA recipients to apply for legal status, and preventing separation of families at the border.[7]

    No, I don’t understand that last part right now, and no, he didn’t say “ending” legal immigration. However the word “moratorium” is just as likely to come out of his mouth as from Trump’s. The big difference is that, as opposed to just saying shit, Ron DeSantis seems to be a man of his word.

    • Replies: @Russ
  149. This FTX scam is the latest grift that keeps on giving.

    https://en-volve.com/2022/11/15/mitch-mcconnell-busted-taking-zelenskys-stolen-ftx-money-according-to-new-fec-docs/

    Thelibertydaily.com reports: The money goes from taxpayers, is sent as “aid” to Ukraine, which gives a good chunk of the laundered money to FTX, which contributes to the Uniparty Swamp. This prompts the Uniparty Swamp to repeat the process, and as we’ve seen over the past several months, it’s working wonders. Corporate media barely reports on all the money getting laundered there on a weekly basis. No Democrats and very few Republican politicians bring up the issue. Nearly everyone is on the take.

    Nothing to see here, move along.

    • Replies: @Harry Baldwin
  150. @Brutusale

    Brian at The New Atlas looks at this.

  151. @John Johnson

    The great dictator changed the motive of the war to “protecting Donbas” and targets civilians in Kiev. Unless you want to tell me this apartment building was a military target:

    I love this. With John Johnson you get the day’s play-by-play in Kiev, just like SportsCenter does with MLB, except John’s analysis is curated through the special prism of the London Telegraph. Maybe you should seek out more disinterested sources before you post stuff, ’cause the London media complex’s track record in 2022 is awful.

    And btw, you’re arguing with yourself. I don’t care who bombs whom in Kiev, but I will say that Zelensky is a pathological coke-addicted liar who just claimed that Russia bombed Poland. He and the Brits said that. They lied. Their agenda was to start thermonuclear war. Sounds like you’re cool with that.

    • Agree: Curle
  152. DeSantis voted for TPP which is a big tell. He is a donor creature.

    At best we would get culture war distraction while open borders and endless wars continue business as usual

  153. @JohnnyWalker123

    Although I despise Trump, that little NPR communiqué reminds me that his enemies are considerably worse, and considerably more dishonest. And unlike Trump, they do real damage.

    • Agree: Harry Baldwin
  154. Tex says:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Is Trump going to give a speech 2-hour-long rambling series of sound bites, platitudes, bragging, name-calling, and bullshitting, which is still a lot of fun to go to?

    It’s the weirdest thing, but Trump’s campaign stops are fun which I don’t believe is true of any politician since Demosthenes. I’d even watch them on YouTube occasionally. Whatever you think of Trump, he’s amazingly good at working a crowd.

    • Agree: Achmed E. Newman
    • Replies: @Prester John
  155. @Mr. Anon

    The electoral system (like the legal system in general) has evolved to rely on the adversarial pursuit of truth. Both sides do whatever they can get away with and the other side determines what they can get away with by how hard they fight it. This worked more or less fine until there were no longer just two viable sides.

    That’s how we’ve gotten the J6 gulag and the absurd elections that threaten the legitimacy of the whole system, sapping the soft power the regime is relying upon to fight their wars (which is what they use to rationalize sitting on their hands to “stop Trump.”) It doesn’t just stop Trump, it undermines their own power and puts us all in jeopardy.

  156. PeterIke says:

    Trump isn’t going to run ultimately because he will be indicted in the next few months. The raid on his home and events prior are a setup. He’s going to jail on a frame up. In the Current Year, we refer to this as “democracy in action.”

    • Replies: @The Anti-Gnostic
  157. JR Ewing says:
    @NJ Transit Commuter

    In the meantime here is a quote I picked up from Zelinsky: ““Hitting NATO territory with missiles. … This is a Russian missile attack on collective security! This is a really significant escalation. Action is needed.”

    Hard to see this statement an anything other than an effort by Zelinsky to provoke a NATO – Russia war.

    For chrissakes, Russia would be justified widening the war on the basis of NATO “assistance” alone. This would have been over 6 months ago without western weapons.

    And if (when) that finally happens, the warmongers will all screech about how IT’S RUSSIA’S FAULT! THEY ATTACKED NATO WITHOUT PROVOCATION!

    The whole thing makes me sick.

    • Agree: Gordo
  158. Hibernian says:
    @Anonymous

    So-called “merit” immigration is worse than other immigration.

    So prefer indigenous people who speak neither Spanish nor English over PhD physicists because the physicists’ kids will disproportionately go to Harvard and Yale and bump Americans down to Penn and Dartmouth? Disregard the fact that the non-English non-Spanish speakers will disproportionately require a lot of assistance?

  159. Hibernian says:
    @PhysicistDave

    The notion that the UN Charter is “the Constitution of the World” is neither Conservative nor Libertarian and is not in line with any strain of either of these two political philosophies.

    • Replies: @PhysicistDave
  160. JR Ewing says:
    @Polistra

    GWB would have rolled over on Covid from the beginning. He also would have never punched back at Disney and instead would have backed down the instant the culture war fight spread to businesses, just like he did when he got pushback on social security reform.

    Kind of like… Trump.

    One of these candidates is GWB 2.0 and it ain’t DeSantis.

  161. JR Ewing says:
    @Colin Wright

    On the one hand, Trump has flaws.

    On the other hand, look at who hates him.

    Wouldn’t it be nice if he just endorsed DeSantis and went to bat for him?

    I so much want to say that this is a good post. I agree with the first two points, but his “going to bat” for anyone else would be a death sentence for that candidate.

    Republicans lost 2018 and 2022 because independents can still smell his stench on the republican party even when he’s not on the ballot. No serious candidate should want his help, much less support.

    2020 was closer because Trump was actually on the ballot and a lot of his sycophants came out and voted for him.

    If Trump isn’t on the ballot in 2024, the best thing for Republicans will be for there to have been a definitive refutation of him that can win back the independents. There are more of those than there are Trump sycophants.

    • Agree: BosTex
  162. Mr. Anon says:
    @John Johnson

    Pence seems like a better move and paired with a moderate female Republican.

    Yeah, that’s a great idea. Let’s get the cuckiest, most boring, most milquetoast establishment Republican we can think of to head up the ticket. And paired with a “moderate” female Republican too! I’m thinking………….. Christine Todd Whitman.

    You should contact those rock-ribbed Republican operatives Rick Wilson and Anna Navarro about your idea. I’m sure they’d be all over it.

    You’ve definitely got a winner there.

  163. @Brutusale

    Can you fit the concept of an errant Ukie anti-missile missile landing just across the border in your cement head?

    Yes that would make it an accident and not a false flag conspiracy.

  164. @PhysicistDave

    John Johnson seems to me to be one of those latter guys, though he may be in a younger generation than Sailer and I. He really, truly seems not to grasp how he has been fed propaganda or that people who disagree with him are not simply stupid people who lack the ability to decipher the news.

    When Trump was running for re-election I was right that he was losing independents and it would hurt him in the election.

    I’ve pointed out very clear data based patterns and yet all you have is petty name calling and dad like lectures.

    You pretty much sum up modern conservatives.

    No analysis of modern voting patterns and completely oblivious to the fact that you are just as feelings based as the opposition.

    Instead of the liberal boomer that feels Whites and “the man” are to blame for everything your feelies go towards conspiracy theories and wild explanations for why your candidates lose. No answers to basic questions like why you are losing independents and moderates. No discussions on how Republicans can make appeals beyond tax cuts ‘n flag waving.

    I didn’t want Biden as president but Team Trump was certain in 2019 that I was just following the MSM for having a dissenting viewpoint. How did that work out? Oh but this time it will be different now that Trump is running with even lower support from independents after stealing classified documents to put next to his Shaq shoe.

    Republicans are plagued by emotional boomers such as yourself. You’re incapable of thinking critically about strategy and fall back to blaming the media. Of course the media is biased but that doesn’t change the fact that Republicans put their heads in the sand when it comes to unfavorable data. The Trumplicans did poorly in this election compared to moderate Republicans and yet we have Republicans that still want the TV reality host to run. The data says this is a bad idea but the feels are too strong. Now go put on your red MAGA hat and cheer like a monkey.

    • Thanks: JR Ewing
    • Replies: @PhysicistDave
  165. @Curle

    Common for unreliability.

    Should read about confidence levels before deciding in your head that you know how stats work
    https://stats.stackexchange.com/questions/166/how-do-you-decide-the-sample-size-when-polling-a-large-population

    When online useless.

    There is no ideal form. Phone polling has always had the problem of relying on people to answer the phone and take the survey. Well that will have some self-selection. Busy people are less likely to take the poll for example.

    Online polls can be reliable when utilized properly.
    https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2019/02/27/what-our-transition-to-online-polling-means-for-decades-of-phone-survey-trends/

    • Replies: @Curle
  166. George says:
    @TontoBubbaGoldstein

    “Maybe Liz Cheney or Nikki Haley Gabbard?

  167. George says:

    “Maybe Liz Cheney or Nikki Haley Tulsi Gabbard? Both Haley and Cheney are a no go for many reasons.

    • Replies: @JR Foley
  168. Goddard says:
    @Ripple Earthdevil

    TPTB will never let the GOP win another presidential election.

    I agree. Trump or DeSantis, either loses. The GOP never wins a national election again.

    White people are saps. We have spent the past 50 years jacking off with one hand, waving the white flag with the other.

    The way of California awaits us. Chunks of the country will hold out longer, but in the end we will live in a country that is more crowded, less free, and less white than both the country our ancestors knew and the country that our ancestors intended us to be.

  169. @Thoughts

    There comes a point when you cannot care about winning

    So you are fine with losing as long as you feel good about it? Why even bother voting? Just be apathetic and feel good about that.

    So I vote for him.

    If he loses, at least my conscious is clear and I’m not going to hell.

    Well I highly doubt that hell exists. No one has explained why an omnipotent God would create Neanderthals and dinosaurs but then later decide that humans should be burned for eternity if they make the wrong decisions.

    Sounds to me like something man created to scare people into accepting a belief system.

    Muslims think we Americans are all going to hell for eating pork and drawing pictures of living things. Why are they wrong? Color me skeptical that eating baby back ribs or voting for the wrong person will lead to eternal torture.

  170. @Steve Sailer

    The rebel going against the grain as villain would be a good change up for Lewis.

  171. @Anonymous

    I’m surprised Steve didn’t make a post on Fox’s impression, because it is the best one out there. If one didn’t see the face behind the voice, one could easily think it was Trump.

  172. @HammerJack

    Anyway Koch was Jewish so I’ll thank you not to criticize him!

    Criticizing him? What makes you think I was criticizing him? If I had said he didn’t call his mother that would be criticizing.

  173. @John Johnson

    I’m not convinced that DeSantis is a good idea either. He is a tricky politician but I’m not sure if his bag of tricks would work outside of Florida.

    I find unz.com‘s hatred for DeSantis baffling. In four years, DeSantis turned a swing State into solid Red State America. He smacked the COVIDiots, Disney, the feds, and academia all in the mouth. He told Miami-Dade to cut out their usual ballot shenanigans and guess what, turns out Miami-Dade is actually 55% Republican.

    He actually governs, which terrifies establishment Republicans.

    Pence is a smart guy with strong appeal to 40-70 yr old conservative white Midwestern men. He won’t go on solo business lunches with women and doesn’t make them tingle so women will vote against him in droves.

    I imagine the GOP will find a way to block Trump and finesse the nomination for Pence after (I hope) DeSantis decides he doesn’t want any part of the National Zoo. Watching what remains of Joe Biden being wheeled into the White House in 2024 is the only good scenario for Republicans at this point.

    • Replies: @John Johnson
    , @Anonymous
  174. @The Anti-Gnostic

    That is what I was saying in another thread at Unz. I’ll happily take DeSantis, Pence or even Jeb Bush over Biden being wheeled out on stage. That is what will happen if Trump wins the primary and the Democrats leave Biden in.

    Over at Wapo in the comments they are cheering the news that Trump is running again. They want Trump to run instead of a Republican that can pull moderates. They want him to lose.

    Newsom isn’t running which means Biden could actually get the reelection bid. There are no serious challengers at the moment. Cuomo was actually supposed to run but he couldn’t stop himself from playing grab ass. Maybe the Democrats will pull some random governor but that would make it even more likely that Trump loses. A random Democrat governor will do even better with moderates against Trump.

    I imagine the GOP will find a way to block Trump and finesse the nomination for Pence after (I hope) DeSantis decides he doesn’t want any part of the National Zoo.

    The real problem is that Trump will start digging into DeSantis before the primary even starts. So they beat each other up while the DNC sits back and waits. No reason to spend money on Democrat attack ads when Trump will do the job for them.

    Pence is a smart guy with strong appeal to 40-70 yr old conservative white Midwestern men. He won’t go on solo business lunches with women and doesn’t make them tingle so women will vote against him in droves.

    He’d have to make some type of grand offering to women. Something like increased funding for maternal care in exchange for keeping abortion at a state level. Run him with a moderate female Republican. It could work if he goes against Biden. Everyone forgets that Biden’s numbers are low with most groups including women. But he isn’t vulnerable to Trump.

  175. @Radicalcenter

    Yup, give him the leo frank/emmett till treatment. Rinse and repeat across the nation until these joggers start to get the impression that their rapist proclivities are going to cost them.

  176. Antipasta says:

    It’ll be fun to see him dump on everyone again. I’m sure the other Republicans who were planning to run are looking forward to this now.

  177. @John Johnson

    Pence and Liz Cheney; now there’s the winning ticket.

    Remember 2016, when Pence was literally the “Handmaid’s Tale” candidate? How Pence stopped beating his wife and daughter only for long enough to be Trump’s running mate?

    Truth be told, there is simply no pathway for Republicans to win the Electoral College ever again.

  178. @John Johnson

    Pence is completely worthless! He will be of ZERO use to American patriots, whether he wins or loses.

    Anti-Gnostic has it right. Ron DeSantis is a Conservative who fights. What other ones are there around?

    • Replies: @Russ
  179. Russ says:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    I wonder where the Trump/DeSantis’24 ticket concept now stands. Quasi-sources such as vivabarneslaw.locals.com asserted this summer that such a ticket was in the works, with the notion of Trump fronting the operation 2025-2029 while DeSantis did much of the actual governing, as groundwork for DeSantis’28. In August 2022, however, DeSantis revamped his staff in a manner that implied less of a FL Gov ’22 run than a 2024 run for the GOP nomination. Some (such as Sundance at theconservativetreehouse.com) have seen alignment between RDS’ post-August staff and the political forces wanting either RDS or Glenn Youngkin to take down Trump pre-nomination (even at the cost of four more Dem years at the top). Team Trump was not unaware; thus the Ron DeSanctimonious shot across the bow, after that God Made A Fighter ad which some found … sanctimonious.

    Unlike the independently wealthy Trump, RDS in his 40s reportedly has a net worth of < $1M, and has a wife who just finished a bout with cancer. The concerns that RDS'24 would thus be a puppet of some politically minded billionaire(s), to the detriment of the average non-woke American, are severe. By contrast, RDS'28 would have four years to reinforce his bona fides (either working with Trump or as Trump’s grudge-free heir-apparent), therein possibly broadening his support base well beyond that of the current big money. Time will tell.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  180. Curle says:
    @John Johnson

    “There is no ideal form.”

    There are disfavored forms. Locate the name of an national political party pollster who uses this method for internal polls and you might retain your dignity. Push polling, sure. Everyone who has ever commissioned an internal poll for an major political party operation is laughing at your pretensions now.

    • Replies: @John Johnson
  181. @Bragadocious

    And btw, you’re arguing with yourself. I don’t care who bombs whom in Kiev, but I will say that Zelensky is a pathological coke-addicted liar who just claimed that Russia bombed Poland. He and the Brits said that. They lied. Their agenda was to start thermonuclear war. Sounds like you’re cool with that.

  182. Ian Smith says:
    @wesley Arundel

    But the Judean volcano demon is against pre-marital sex, and banning abortion will discourage fornication. That’s how bible thumpers think, whether they admit it or not.

    David Cole is indispensable: https://www.takimag.com/article/midterm-for-the-worse-part-i-fetus-do-yo-stuff/

  183. @Curle

    You’ve made it clear that you don’t understand the basics of polling by suggesting that a sample size of 1000 isn’t large enough. You made that claim less than 24 hours ago.

    That isn’t enough time to fully understand confidence levels and the math behind polling.

    Go study before continuing to pretend that you know anything about this.

    • Replies: @Curle
  184. @Bragadocious

    And btw, you’re arguing with yourself. I don’t care who bombs whom in Kiev, but I will say that Zelensky is a pathological coke-addicted liar who just claimed that Russia bombed Poland. He and the Brits said that. They lied. Their agenda was to start thermonuclear war. Sounds like you’re cool with that.

    So I support nuclear warfare because I oppose Putin’s invasion and his continued shelling of civilian areas?

    Is that the master level of logic that you have reached by continuing to defend this dictator?

    Do you really believe that two missiles landing in a remote area was an attempt at a false flag operation and not friendly fire?

    • Replies: @Bragadocious
  185. Russ says:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Regarding Pence: What emotions and thoughts are evoked by this image?

  186. @PeterIke

    “Show me the man and I’ll show you the crime.” — Laventiy Beria

    Lots of apparatchiks in America these days.

  187. Curle says:
    @John Johnson

    Nice try dilettante. Really, how hard could it be to find a major party candidate bragging about their 1000 sample internet poll given your confidence in that form of polling? Put up or shut up.

    • Replies: @John Johnson
  188. Anonymous[329] • Disclaimer says:
    @The Anti-Gnostic

    I find unz.com‘s hatred for DeSantis baffling. In four years, DeSantis turned a swing State into solid Red State America.

    Will he end immigration? (Is there anything more important?)

  189. @Tex

    Oh, they’re fun all right. A downright hoot! Loved it when he used to say”we’re gonna build a wall” and then he turns his back to the camera, gesticulating and acknowledging the applause from the choir. Trump is a manure spreader par excellence, easily the equal of Der Schlickmeister von Arkansas (if not even better), the difference being that from the beginning the latter never had to make a payroll in his life, spending his whole career sucking the public titty. Trump still beats that senile old fool currently bumping into walls in the White House but the problem is that the American public has the collective attention span of a two-year old and unfortunately for The Don, the act seems to be wearing thin. Best if he exits the stage voluntarily as opposed to being carried off in a gurney after having been adjudged by the Powers That Be that he has become, in the manner of Thomas a Becket, “a meddlesome priest.”

  190. @Russ

    Thanks for the analysis, Russ. I admit that one thing that gave me confidence about voting for Trump in ’16 was that being filthy rich, he wouldn’t be subject to bribery, and being a playboy type, he wouldn’t be subject to blackmail. Unfortunately Donald Trump is subject to other stuff, like insults, distractions, and twitter.

    I like your idea of Trump being the front man, while DeSantis does the governing. Unfortunately Trump’s ego would never let that work. He’d be tweeting out to the country that the guy right next to him on the stage, Sancto-Ron, is an idiot.

    • Replies: @Coemgen
  191. Coemgen says:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Unfortunately Donald Trump is subject to other stuff, like insults, distractions, and twitter.

    Insults = Crossfire Hurricane?
    Distractions = Mueller Special Counsel?
    Twitter = IMPEACHMENT-2019?

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  192. @Steve Sailer

    The spectacular collapse of FTX, along with its intimate relationship with the Democrat Party, will make Michael Lewis’s book be far more timely and interesting that it other wise might have been. There was a 2001 documentary, Startup.com, that followed the growth and ultimate bankruptcy of a dot-com business. Without its failure, the movie would have lacked a dramatic arc.

  193. @Ebony Obelisk

    You need to read Adam Kinzinger

    We have to show Russia no mercy

    Sending a Kinzinger to Russia would be a war crime.

  194. Muggles says:
    @JohnnyWalker123

    More Soviet style baiting journalism from America’s version of TASS.

    “Election denial” became a Hate Crime around Oct. 31, 2020. Prior to that it was an expensive, lengthy process involving MI-5, the FBI, the DoJ. the Hillary Clinton campaign, the House Judicial Committee, NBC, ABC, CBS, CNN, AP, MSNBC, Twitter, Facebook, Google, the Muller Commission and really, everyone else who got any media love at all. Trump stole his election, etc.

    Of course that “denial” (and prior others) involved Democrat claims of election theft, the more recent ones involving Vlad Putin.

    Stacy Adams stubbornly refused to get the picture, blaming the KKK and various literary critics for her 2020 GA gubernatorial loss. Now, twice.

    NPR will continue to masquerade as an objective state funded news outlet, as does it sister propaganda arm, Public Television. Clues are that “National” and “Public” are trademarked identifiers of progressive Dem controlled “independent media boards” funded by you, the milk cow taxpayers in Idaho and Texas. Oh, and gay bartenders and unmarried cat ladies who are monthly hounded for donations. They get snarky Broadway theater reviews and lots of British TV reruns to listen to or watch. Sometimes even programs about cats and gays!

    The NPR show Morning Edition provides their daily propaganda Narrative early in the day, so you don’t have to actually read the NY Times or WaPo. But you have to do the crossword puzzles yourself….

  195. Anonymous[238] • Disclaimer says:
    @JR Ewing

    Everybody has forgotten it now, but I remember the precise moment Trump went from being a comic-relief/clown figure to being a serious contender.

    It was in 2015 when Disney fired hundreds of American workers and replaced them with Indians. Trump (who was still not a candidate) immediately denounced it and threatened to punish companies that did such things. His popularity instantly surged and he declared his candidacy shortly afterwards.

  196. @Hypnotoad666

    In case you were wondering why they allowed him to say those things on air . . .

    Whittaker Chambers won some award in high school and was invited to give a valedictory speech. He wrote up a cynical rejection of the common “values” of the day– a trendy attitude in postwar 1919– peppered with jokes, and encouraging his fellows to give up on their ambitions. It was soundly rejected by the school, and he was forced to submit a tamer, more respectful script. He did.

    But when the time came, he gave the original. The audience erupted. It became a local legend. Three decades later, Doris Kearns Goodwin’s sister won the same award at the same school and threatened to be the first to repeat Chambers’s stunt. But Miss Kearns chickened out in the end. (Girls.)

    (No mention of whether he wore a flu mask.)

    If any Chambers aficionados know if there’s a copy extant…

  197. Muggles says:
    @Bugg

    But let’s keep babbling about white supremacy , nooses and Emmett Till.

    Off topic: Not to pre-empt iSteve’s forthcoming Emmett Till news update, but there is a Till link to the recent mass shooting of three vibrant UVA football players (on a bus) by another former vibrant UVA football player who is no longer a scholar-athlete now for some reason as yet unpublished.

    All of the bus riding victims were returning from a school sponsored excursion (free! thanks taxpayers!) to that new Till play (musical?) being shown in Washington DC. (Soon opening near you, get those tix while you can).

    So a Till memorial/worship play is a coincidental (or is it?) cause for three murders of Black men on a bus. Several were crowded into the bus bathroom at the time, again for reasons as yet unpublished.

    So the Till related genocide of Black Folks continues!

    (Reasons for this Black-on-Black violence remain, again, as yet unpublished. The search for the noose connection is ongoing…)

  198. Muggles says:
    @PhysicistDave

    So, Fed, are you willing to endorse the principle of self-determination of peoples, enshrined in Article 1 of the Charter of the United Nations, as applied to the heroic people of the Donbass?

    Or are you afraid to answer that question?

    Why are you afraid to answer that question?

    I hate to butt in here, since you say you are a “friend of Murray” etc.

    But no one with any sense quotes these UN Charter provisions and expects anyone to take them seriously. Not when said territory is already by prior treaty, or conquest, etc. part of an established government. Or not winning their side in a violent civil war.

    So this won’t apply to Donbass, etc.

    Now in theory I’m happy to agree with you provided that Texas can enforce this UN Treaty provision too. And a few other places.

    But since faith in our Dear United Nations is, well, the product of too little thought or too much THC, I’m afraid I’m not going to take you seriously on this.

    If you have some nifty plans on getting those Blue Helmets from Kenya to come help us liberate Texas, etc. from the Biden Regime, after a “fair vote” then please, post those details.

    Otherwise don’t play 1956 Adali Stevenson here. He was a UN idealist too, but never became a “Lincoln denier” himself. (Murray Rothbard was a 1956 Stevenson supporter, BTW, though not a UN believer.)

    • Replies: @PhysicistDave
  199. @HammerJack

    actually (((Ed Koch)) was well ahead of Cuomo Sr. in the NY Gub polls.

    then: he made a remark about “the idiocy of rural life”.

    and it was all over for (((Ed Koch))).

  200. @Peterike

    Yes, I fear we’ve just entered boot-stamping-on-a-human-face-forever territory.

  201. Muggles says:

    Trump struck a deep chord with me when he accused DeSantis of Disloyalty

    I’m not sure what Trump was referring to here and am not bothering to find out.

    But it is hilariously hypocritical for Trump to accuse anyone else of political disloyalty, or personal disloyalty.

    One of Trump’s most obvious personal character flaws was to be disloyal and publicly critical of allies, appointees, political leaders who had worked for him or endorsed him. The list is endless and was very demoralizing when this tendency became obvious.

    Really high quality people won’t work like that. You can’t expect “loyalty” in politics and then turn around and publicly bad-mouth them if the say or do something semi critical of your policy or some minor disagreement. Loyalty is a two way street. And in politics, like life, it isn’t a 100% slavish devotion to every single thing you do or say. That’s Stalin-ism, not loyalty.

    If you do criticize, you do it privately.

    Trump seemingly demanded unquestioning love and devotion to 100% of everything he did or said. Who with any brains could to that?

    People aren’t stupid. Giving loyalty to a buffoon or bully is nuts. He got a lot more loyalty from his followers, employees, etc. than he deserved. He did show sporadic loyalty at times, but unreliable.

    Either he was too stupid to know this, or just too arrogant to care. This is of course a common political flaw. But he made it very public all too often.

    Which is why few trusted him enough to work on his team, or if so, work for very long.

  202. @John Johnson

    So I support nuclear warfare because I oppose Putin’s invasion and his continued shelling of civilian areas?

    Why don’t you just admit you’ve thrown in your lot with a pathological liar (Zelensky) who has no qualms about starting WW3 based on a lie?

    Your constant womanly screams that Putin is bad is totally beside the point. The point is who we’re in business with right now, and that scumbag is Zelensky. Defend him. Make your case for why we should be sending him $50B, $60B, whatever the number is today. Defend his lie yesterday.

  203. @Bill Jones

    No Democrats and very few Republican politicians bring up the issue. Nearly everyone is on the take.

    The truce between the Democrats and Republicans in Washington is based on Mutually Assured Corruption.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  204. @Ebony Obelisk

    There won’t be any mercy for you and the other boys in the hood when a Russian 800 kiloton thermonuclear warhead detonates directly above you.

    This nonsense about total war against Russia (which is more or less what no mercy for Russia amounts to) is the babble of a death cult.

    Or, in your case, the chatter of a chimpanzee about to have his hairy ass blown away by the great white hunter.

  205. @Harry Baldwin

    Very nice one, Harry. At some point, I’ll be stealing that one.. with attribution, if I remember.

    Thanks!

  206. @Hibernian

    Hibernian wrote to me:

    The notion that the UN Charter is “the Constitution of the World” is neither Conservative nor Libertarian and is not in line with any strain of either of these two political philosophies.

    I agree of course.

    But even bad people sometimes say things that are true.

    And the principle of self-determination of peoples stated in Article 1 of the UN Charter is indeed a good thing.

    Okay, maybe the only good thing in the UN Charter, but still a good thing!

    And it is fair game to try to pin HAsbara, my favorite Fed John Johnson, et al. down on this issue: it seems that they really do think that no group of people anywhere on this planet are entitled to choose the government under which they live if the US Deep State forbids it.

    And so I am trying — and will keep trying — to point out that this seems to be their position.

  207. @Curle

    Funny you mention Washington state because that is where a Trumplican lost to a moderate Democrat in a district that had been Republican for 12 years. It was one of the house upsets.

    Herrera Beutler was chased out by Trump fanatics and then the Trumplican replacement lost to a blue collar Democrat.

    Beutler was one of the Republicans that supported impeaching Trump. As with Liz Cheney she was ex-communicated for not conforming.

    There are cases like that all over this country where the Trumplican lost.

    MUST BE CHEATING DERP

    Couldn’t be that independents and moderates are sick of this TV reality star and his antics.

    Read for yourself about this epic fail:
    https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2022/11/marie-gluesenkamp-perezs-win-shows-why-republicans-flopped-this-fall/672110/

    Oh and Murdoch has officially turned on Trump.

    So no Fox programming this time. How can he win without Fox? He can’t.

    • Replies: @Curle
  208. @John Johnson

    My favorite Fed John Johnson wrote to me:

    When Trump was running for re-election I was right that he was losing independents and it would hurt him in the election.

    I’ve pointed out very clear data based patterns and yet all you have is petty name calling and dad like lectures.

    You pretty much sum up modern conservatives.

    I am not a conservative. I am not a Trump fan. I am not even a registered Republican. Indeed, I happen right now to be registered Democratic, though I am in fact loyal to no political party — I registered Democratic to vote for Tulsi in the 2020 primary.

    So, telling me that I am a typical conservative, Republican, or Trumpian just proves that you have not read my comments.

    Your strategy suggestions are profoundly idiotic: for example, your suggestion that the GOP nominate Pence ignores the fact that the Trump base deeply (and rightly in my judgment) despises Pence. It is hard to see how any Republican can win if the Trump base truly hates that Republican.

    We’re all making fun of you because that should be obvious to any sensible person.

    DeSantis, Hawley, Rand Paul, maybe even Kim Reynolds might be acceptable to the Trump base.

    But not Pence, because the Trump base really hates him.

    That you do not see this makes you an object of humor.

    By the way, if Pence is the GOP nominee, I myself plan to vote for a third-party candidate.

    But my real criticism of you is not that you are a lousy strategist.

    You have been openly advocating making the middle class more dependent on the welfare state. And you are a very vociferous booster for the ongoing US Deep State proxy war in Ukraine.

    Your political views are basically not any closer to mine or a lot of the other folks here than Joe Biden’s.

    You and I are not allies who have some minor disagreements on strategy.

    You and I are political opponents.

    If there were a political contest between you and AOC, I would abstain.

    Because I do not see much difference.

    Does that clarify why I keep criticizing you, Fed?

    Because you advocate policies that uphold the power of the current ruling class in both domestic and foreign policy.

    You are a Fed.

    • Agree: Pincher Martin, Curle
    • Thanks: Bill Jones
    • Replies: @John Johnson
  209. @Muggles

    Muggles wrote to me:

    But no one with any sense quotes these UN Charter provisions and expects anyone to take them seriously. Not when said territory is already by prior treaty, or conquest, etc. part of an established government.

    Well… actually, you are factually mistaken.

    Countless times in the last four decades, the UN and the “International Community” have indeed recognized new countries that had been under the control of established governments. This is true of the country formerly known as Ukraine itself, which had of course been part of the Soviet Union.

    It is also true of the break-up of Yugoslavia and Czechoslovakia and Sudan, to mention other recent examples.

    Happens all the time — as long as the US Deep State approves.

    In 2014, West Ukraine, at the instigation of the US Deep State, chose to secede from the legally elected government of Ukraine. Their privilege. But to treat the people of the Donbass as automatically subject to the new putschist regime in Kiev… that is not automatic.

    Except that is what the US Deep State wanted… and everyone is afraid of the US Deep State.

    Except, it turned out, Vladimir Putin.

    In another thread in a comment directed to my favorite Fed John Johnson, I expressed my contempt for the UN:

    I have and have always had the utmost contempt for the UN, simply because it is composed of governments, almost all of which, by any normal standard, are extremely corrupt.

    In particular, the parties that put the principle of self-determination of peoples into Article 1 of the UN Charter were lying hypocrites: they included the vicious dictators who ruled over the French and British Empires, for example. We pretend that France and Britain in the late 1940s were “democracies,” but they certainly were not if you were an Indian, an inhabitant of French West Africa, etc. (Have I ever mentioned how much I hate empires?)

    But those evil men put the principle of self-determination of peoples into Article 1 of the UN Charter because it is, of course, a very noble principle indeed. But they were lying in terms of pretending that they intended to live up to it.

    And that point stands: yes, the UN Is just a criminal gang composed of some of the biggest and nastiest criminals on the planet.

    But the principle of self-determination of peoples is a good and just principle.

    And it is fair to demand that all those who pretend to be in favor of international law and use that pretense as an excuse for backing the Kievan putschist dictatorship state whether or not they endorse the principle of self-determination of peoples.

    But, of course, they are all too cowardly to do so.

    But what do you expect of apologists for the US Deep State?

    • Replies: @Muggles
  210. Curle says:
    @John Johnson

    “It was one of the house upsets.”

    Upsets? Funny, the local news stories I saw (and I followed that race during the primary) never once gave Kent an presumption of victory at any stage of the process, quite the opposite. I guess making up some non-existent story line after an election is an Atlantic tactic (there’s a reason conservatives and sane people don’t read it). Republican voters in that district correctly perceived that having the enemy on the outside rather than inside is the better option of the two choices because in two years you have the chance to reclaim the seat and get an conservative in the seat. Plus you eliminate one more vote for an Ryan style traitor in leadership races (an equal or more important consideration). This is an lesson that conservatives have learned following decades of treasonous backstabbing by the Romney/Ryan (on the payroll) wing and it is unlikely they will unlearn it just to let guys like you imagine yourself oracles.

    I’m not going to comment on your reference to The Atlantic. It’s an pathetic rag and no conservatives reads it much less any in Washington’s Third District.

    By the way, revisiting your inane and clueless blathering about sample sizes and online polls and sample sizes of 1000 for an NATIONAL poll, you referenced Pew to argue in favor of online polling but failed to mention Pew’s sample sizes when they do online polling (hint: not sample sizes of 1000 which was the number you were attempting to defend think instead an order of magnitude higher). You obviously weren’t going to come clean but here’s your chance to redeem yourself.

    • Replies: @John Johnson
  211. @Curle

    Nice try dilettante. Really, how hard could it be to find a major party candidate bragging about their 1000 sample internet poll given your confidence in that form of polling? Put up or shut up.

    I gave you a link to pew research and they explain why online polling can be just as reliable. Their polls are cited by both parties.

    Maybe read actually read the article before further embarrassing yourself.

    Online polls are used all the time. Here is one in fact:
    Poll shows that DeSantis has edge over Trump
    https://nypost.com/2022/11/12/new-primary-poll-finds-desantis-has-edge-over-trump-in-2024/

    There is no such thing as an ideal poll. That is one of the first things you learn in stat. You can’t poll everything and there is no ideal method of getting a random sample of opinions.

    Phone polls were always problematic. For example they favor the unemployed over the employed. People that sit around the house are more likely to answer the phone and talk to some random person. They also favor the retired over someone in their 20s.

    I would suggest visiting your local library and getting a book on statistics.

    • Replies: @Curle
  212. @Curle

    Upsets? Funny, the local news stories I saw (and I followed that race during the primary) never once gave Kent an presumption of victory at any stage of the process, quite the opposite.

    It’s a district upset. That same district went for Trump in both elections and yet went with the Democrat. They went with Trump but not the Trumplican and they had a Republican rep for 12 years.

    Not a good sign.

    I guess making up some non-existent story line after an election is an Atlantic tactic (there’s a reason conservatives and sane people don’t read it).

    Atlantic is biased? NO WAY. I’ll be sure to read all my political news from non-biased sources.

    Oh…wait….that’s right….we live in a country that is filled to the brim with biased media and tiny outlets like Unz can’t cover every story.

    Or did you think Sailer reads LA Times without knowing it is biased? DUR.

    Pew’s sample sizes when they do online polling (hint: not sample sizes of 1000 which was the number you were attempting to defend think instead an order of magnitude higher). You obviously weren’t going to come clean but here’s your chance to redeem yourself.

    I sent you a link that explains why 1000 is an adequate size for a political poll.

    You didn’t bother reading it so I will copy and paste the text for you:

    Sample size doesn’t much depend on the population size, which is counter-intuitive to many.

    Most polling companies use 400 or 1000 people in their samples.

    There is a reason for this:

    A sample size of 400 will give you a confidence interval of +/-5% 19 times out of 20 (95%)

    A sample size of 1000 will give you a confidence interval of +/-3% 19 times out of 20 (95%)

    Here is another explanation:
    https://www.quora.com/Why-do-political-polls-have-such-low-sample-sizes

    I don’t know what you are disputing and you aren’t bothering to read anything that I provide for you. Willful ignorance is not a positive trait.

    • Replies: @Curle
  213. @PhysicistDave

    Your strategy suggestions are profoundly idiotic: for example, your suggestion that the GOP nominate Pence ignores the fact that the Trump base deeply (and rightly in my judgment) despises Pence. It is hard to see how any Republican can win if the Trump base truly hates that Republican.

    More data-free emotionalism. Call yourself whatever you want but your attitude is typical of boomer conservatives.

    You didn’t provide any evidence that Trump’s base hates Pence or more importantly that Pence would do worse against Biden than Trump. It actually doesn’t matter if Trump’s base likes or dislikes Pence. What matters is if they would vote for Pence over a Democrat.

    75% of Republicans approve of Pence after Jan 6
    https://www.cnn.com/2022/02/09/politics/electoral-count-act-pence-poll/index.html

    A whopping 67% of independents do not want Trump to run
    https://www.politicususa.com/2022/09/08/trump-independents-poll.html

    You and I are political opponents.

    No doubt about that. In my fight against liberalism I have been dealing with emotionally laden conservatives like yourself that lash out at facts and ironically mock liberals for relying on their feelings. The vast majority have been boomers. They are emotionally stuck in some weird state where they don’t want to process basic information that conflicts with what they feel should be true.

    Conservative emotionalism is what led to Trump losing. Instead of trying to shore up support with independents they waved flags and put on MAGA hats. BAD STATS ARE JUST LIES FROM LIBRA MEDIA. YOU MUST BE ONE OF THEM DERP

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
    , @PhysicistDave
  214. Curle says:

    You are being purposefully disingenuous. Note you aren’t showing commentary related to sample sizes for ONLINE NATIONAL polls and you are avoiding disaggregating online polls from other methodologies in terms of necessary sample sizes.

    Here is an chart showing Pew (your preferred example) and their sample sizes for an national survey. Note the sample sizes of the adult US population used for aggregated political surveys to achieve national scope for religious survey 2018/19 = 12,738. For national religious landscape survey 2014 = >35k.

    https://www.pewforum.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/7/2019/10/Detailed-Tables-v1-FOR-WEB.pdf

    The Pew methodology is demonstrated quite clearly by the attached. They only dip down to 1500~ samples when surveying sub populations (such as minorities) and even then as the above demonstrates samples are rarely that small.

    This, again, is the pollster you selected to to cite as authority for your position failing to note that their practices do not support your claims.

    Now can you now quit spamming us with your baseless pretenses to authority?

  215. Curle says:
    @John Johnson

    “It’s a district upset.”

    You don’t know squat about that district.

    • Replies: @John Johnson
  216. Michael Anton called Trump’s 2016 campaign the “Flight 93 Election.” I think his 2024 campaign should be called the “Group Captain Mandrake Election.” It feels like no matter how hard I might try to prevent it, the plot just keeps moving towards WW3.

  217. Curle says:
    @John Johnson

    “I would suggest visiting your local library and getting a book on statistics.”

    I would suggest you educate yourself about the practices of professional pollsters.

    • Replies: @John Johnson
  218. @Curle

    So you are saying that Pew Research isn’t actually a leader in polling? They aren’t using professional statisticians?

    They use online polls and samples sizes of 1000.

    In fact they provide a video on why a sample of 1000 is large enough
    https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2017/05/12/methods-101-random-sampling/

    Here is their explanation for why they are transitioning to online polling:
    https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2019/02/27/what-our-transition-to-online-polling-means-for-decades-of-phone-survey-trends/

    • Replies: @Curle
  219. @Curle

    “It’s a district upset.”

    You don’t know squat about that district.

    Do explain exactly what I said about the district is incorrect.

    It was a reliable Republican district and they voted for a moderate Democrat instead of a Trumplican.

    That’s an upset and followed a pattern across the country where Trumplicans lost.

    Upset:
    an unexpected result or situation, especially in a sports competition

    It was not expected that a reliably Republican district would vote for a Democrat.

    You and PhysicistDave need to take some Midol.

    You guys are unable to look at basic data without getting upset.

    • Replies: @PhysicistDave
  220. MB says: • Website
    @Curle

    Thanks for refreshing the memory. That would be Dino Rossi and Maria Cantwell, no?
    Washington, leader of the pack with mail in voting long before the panic pandemic made it mandatory.

    • Agree: Curle
    • Replies: @Curle
  221. Ralph L says:
    @Curle

    Yeah, but his dick don’t work now.

  222. Mr. Anon says:
    @John Johnson

    You favor Mike Pence as a conservative candidate? What has Mike Pence ever conserved?

    Pence is a non-entity. A lot of people wouldn’t bother to show up to vote for him because he is boring.

    • Agree: Bill Jones
    • Replies: @Anonymous
  223. @John Johnson

    My favorite Fed John Johnson wrote to me:

    More data-free emotionalism. Call yourself whatever you want but your attitude is typical of boomer conservatives.

    You didn’t provide any evidence that Trump’s base hates Pence or more importantly that Pence would do worse against Biden than Trump.

    What “data” would conceivably be relevant?

    I don’t want Mike Pence to be President.

    I am opposed to the foreign and domestic policies that you favor.

    You keep acting as if I share your goals but I am just too ignorant of the practical “data” to understand how to realize your goals.

    I do not share your goals.

    I want people who share your goals to lose.

    The Fed also wrote to me:

    [Dave] You and I are political opponents.

    [The Fed] No doubt about that. In my fight against liberalism I have been dealing with emotionally laden conservatives like yourself that lash out at facts and ironically mock liberals for relying on their feelings.

    I am not a conservative: I am a radical anarchist who does not wish to live in the sort of society you wish to create.

    I am not “lash[ing] out at facts,” and I am not “ironically mock[ing] liberals for relying on their feelings.”

    You are one of those very, very strange human beings who have trouble understanding that there are many, many human beings who differ from you not simply on practical, tactical details but rather on fundamental human values.

    You are typical of Establishment Leftists in that respect, which is why I call you a Fed.

    People like Klaus Schwab and Hilary and Soros and Chuck Schumer really cannot believe that lots and lots of us do not want to live in the world they are trying to create, even if — especially if! — they actually succeed in creating it. If only we could “imagine” (cue the John Lennon song!) the world in which we will own nothing and be happy, we would be on their side.

    And you are just like them.

    If you could convince me that your proposed tactics would lead to a Republican victory, I would still oppose them.

    I am not a Republican.

    I do not want to live in the world you want to create.

    I am not a conservative who simply lacks the wisdom to see that your tactics will work: I very much hope that your tactics will fail.

    I hate and despise your values.

    Can you grasp that?

    No — of course not, because you are a Fed.

  224. Russ says:

    Meanwhile,

    1) Milquetoast McCarthy does not quite have the votes to become Speaker, but he apparently has no serious competition for the role; this, when the Red Wave in prediction became a week before a declared GOP House majority in practice. Meanwhile, some midwit named Emmer – photographed out partying pre-election when he should’ve been busting tail on election support – gets elected Whip.

    2) In the Senate, in-bred Mitch McConnell, purportedly with a 7% approval rating, wins the election for GOP Senate leadership by over 75% of the vote. In some Senate races, the GOP candidate was outspent by multiples yet lost by a few percent; Mitch was sending money into Alaska – GOP win already guaranteed – to bolster the consummate swampist. The Midnight Cowboy on Fox News just announces that Mitch stands to be the longest-serving GOP Senate leader.

    3) Also in the Senate: McConnell’s counterpart Schumer caterwauls today about too few American births requiring importing more aliens. What does the Senate do? A dozen GOP senators cross the aisle to vote for schlong-up-bung marriage; that’s what the Senate does while its majority leader bleats too few births. Don’t know whether to belittle their biology, or laud the bastards for the perfect Senator-on-voter metaphor.

  225. @John Johnson

    My favorite Fed John Johnson wrote to Curle

    You and PhysicistDave need to take some Midol.

    You guys are unable to look at basic data without getting upset.

    I would rather have Joe Biden, Chuck Schumer, and Nancy Pelosi running this country — as much as I despise them! — than you and people who agree with you running this country.

    It is not a matter of “data” — I am a physicist turned engineer: I am good with data.

    It is that I despise people like you and do not wish to live in a world that you would like to create.

    You are a Fed.

    • Replies: @James B. Shearer
  226. Anonymous[390] • Disclaimer says:
    @Thoughts

    There was only one correct play for DeSantis, and that was to stand with Trump, be his Vice President, and then run for President. That would have been the best for the country.

    Trump can’t win though.

  227. @PhysicistDave

    “I would rather have Joe Biden, Chuck Schumer, and Nancy Pelosi running this country — as much as I despise them! — than you and people who agree with you running this country.”

    On what issues are Biden, Schumer and Pelosi superior?

    • Replies: @PhysicistDave
  228. JR Foley says:
    @Supply and Demand

    Hey–you want to see a real leader—watch how Justin Trudeau performed at G20 !! No wonder 99.1% of Canadians Love their Leader and the other .09% are “just” making up their minds to be “in” that perfect 100% . Deputy Prime Minister Freeland is scheduled to take over leadership of NATO next Spring and She will indeed do a great job. Canada is doing what USA can only dream of doing…..

  229. JR Foley says:
    @George

    How about Mankind and Undertaker?

  230. Anonymous[803] • Disclaimer says:
    @Mr. Anon

    You favor Mike Pence as a conservative candidate? What has Mike Pence ever conserved?

    Pence is anti-immigration.

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
  231. @James B. Shearer

    James B. Shearer asked me:

    [Dave] “I would rather have Joe Biden, Chuck Schumer, and Nancy Pelosi running this country — as much as I despise them! — than you and people who agree with you running this country.”

    [JBS} On what issues are Biden, Schumer and Pelosi superior?

    Their general principles seem to be pretty much the same as my favorite Fed, John Johnson.

    But they do not pretend otherwise — they are what they are.

    Whereas, my favorite Fed is actively trying (it seems to be the only thing he is trying!) to convince everyone who objects to the Left to just give up and to accept the basic principles of the ruling class on both foreign and domestic policy.

    Biden, Pelosi, and Schumer are evil — but they at least leave open the possibility of a Resistance fighting against them.

    John Johnson’s whole goal is to get any serious Resistance to simply surrender its principles and its objections to the ruling elite in the name of “winning.”

    But “winning” in that way is losing completely.

    Does that make clear why I view him as even worse than Biden, Pelosi, and Schumer?

  232. @Coemgen

    Can I just pick the middle one? You got it. All of it was a DISTRACTION to President Trump. You get your legal council to work on that, you DO NOT ANSWER questions from the press on anything besides your serious programs as promised. If the press insists, you REPLACE the press with NEW PRESS, say Instapundit’s Glenn Reynolds, Michelle Malkin, Peter Brimelow … Nobody says you have to let in the MSNBC and NPR guys.

    It sounds like you got distracted too, Coemgen. I did not follow the 3 “big stories” you listed. Trump shouldn’t have either! You simply cannot play their games, or they will derail your programs by wasting every minute of your time for 4 years.

    • Replies: @Coemgen
  233. Coemgen says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    The local news is reporting both the race of the rapist kidnapper (black) and the victim (Asian):
    https://www.wcvb.com/article/wollaston-station-safety-concerns-kidnapping-rape-quincy-massachusetts/41971805

    Aside: Mark Zuckerberg’s wife, Priscilla Chan, is from Quincy, Massachusetts where this kidnapping and rape occurred.

  234. Coemgen says:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Interesting, you seem to be distracted by the caricature of Trump created by “the media” yet you claim to be unaware of the impact counter-intelligence investigations into Trump and his associates and, IMPEACHMENT-2019, had on Trump’s ability to govern.

    To avoid getting distracted by “the media,” you can read original documents in all their petty, childish, and heavily fabricated glory:

    Steele Dossier – largely fabricated; non-fabricated info likely leaked from U.S. government sources to Steele by Nelly Ohr; used as grounds for counter-intelligence investigation; best read aloud in your finest Boris Badenov voice:
    https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/3259984-Trump-Intelligence-Allegations.html

    Clapper Report – partisan pettifogging; best read aloud in your finest hysterical thirteen-year-old girl voice:
    https://www.dni.gov/files/documents/ICA_2017_01.pdf

    Grounds for impeachment? Oh wait, the Biden’s did have the appearance of a “conflict of interest” in their Ukrainian dealings:
    https://intelligence.house.gov/uploadedfiles/20190812_-_whistleblower_complaint_unclass.pdf

  235. @Coemgen

    You’re still missing the point. Donald Trump needed to concentrate, CONCENTRATE on the immigration invasion, getting the dozens of millions of American patriots to help him impeach/recall judges blocking legislation and threaten (with protests, etc. but most importantly their votes) the legislators that wouldn’t come on board with the program – remember there was a GOP Congress and Senate the 1st 2 years.

    I’m not saying these issues you bring up were not real. I’m saying that you delegate someone to deal with that. Trump himself did NOT have to spend his days dealing with it by tweeting out what really happened. It’s not that I didn’t believe him over the ctrl-left that was trying to take him down. It’s just that I could see this was all wasting his time. Quit playing their game!

    If Trump had had real success on the immigration invasion. tariffs with China (he was trying hard on this one, with unfortunately not enough support), and ending the Warfare State, there would have been no stopping him. As it was, the Senate didn’t convict, but imagine the support (forced on many of them, knowing those people) if Trump had had real success. That was mostly up to him.

    It’s helped a whole lot if he hadn’t had hired Swamp Creatures to drain the Swamp and used Javanka as his close advisor(s).

    You need to get off the idiot plate, Coemgen. You’ll find that you can think better without it.

    • Replies: @Coemgen
  236. Coemgen says:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    You seem to think President Donald Trump was some all-powerful dictator.

    Noting your ad hominem – what is “idiotic” is thinking that President Trump could magically make the Democrats, globalist Republicans, the entrenched unelected federal bureaucracies, “the media,” corruptible backstabbers (did you know Mike Pence has a book now?), etc., all work with him to try to make the U.S. a better place for its citizens.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  237. Curle says:
    @MB

    It was Dino Rossi vs Christine Gregoire for Governor.

    • Replies: @MB
  238. JR Ewing says:

    It was Dino Rossi vs Christine Gregoire for Governor.

    I’m sure it wasn’t the first one, but it’s the first one I can remember at least, where it just dragged on and on for weeks and felt like the fix was in. No matter what, Rossi was eventually going to lose and they just needed put the pieces together to make it happen.

    Then they did it again with Franken in MN in 2008 – had to get that 60th filibuster proof vote! – and long rigged counts for the democrats became a fixture of our elections. By the time we got to last week, it was obvious what was going to happen in Nevada and Arizona after both of those lasted longer than 24 hours and I wasn’t even outraged or upset. Just grim acceptance of the new normal.

    NB – Maria Cantwell is the senator that the magnificently oleaginous John Harwood was caught banging outside of his marriage, but who suffered no consequences whatsoever with his supposedly “objective” reporter job and was still treated by the MSM as some kind of serious unbiased sage of Washington. What made me sick wasn’t the affair, it was the way the MSM just pretended it didn’t matter at all.

    • Replies: @Curle
  239. @Coemgen

    Sorry, that insult at the bottom was not warranted, Coemgen. I apologize.

    What I will do is write this up better in a blog post, hopefully later today.

    • Thanks: Coemgen
  240. Curle says:
    @John Johnson

    “Online polling remains difficult”

    “Just because it’s possible to turn dirt into gold doesn’t mean every nontraditional pollster has figured out how to do so. It’s quite difficult, and it’s also hard to tell whether a pollster has unlocked the dirt-to-gold alchemy.”

    “What we know for sure is that much of the data collected by nontraditional means is of the dirt variety. For example, a 2016 study from Pew Research found there were substantial differences in the quality of online nonprobability samples: All but two of those samples fared worse than Pew’s online probability panel, which was recruited from Pew telephone surveys.” [Reliability requires recruitment from TELEPHONE surveys].”

    “Another survey has succeeded without probability samples, but by means that also raise doubts about other online surveys: the VoteCast survey, a new competitor to the exit poll fielded by NORC at the University of Chicago and sponsored by The Associated Press and other news media outlets.”

    “The VoteCast polling of the midterms was conducted with unusual transparency, and it was a rare foray into this type of research by a well-regarded, traditional organization. The study combined a traditional telephone survey of 40,000 respondents with a large nonprobability sample of 110,000 respondents. The online-only element was calibrated in part by using the telephone survey data, and the overall results were reasonable.” [Are you tracking here? 40,000 + 110,000 respondents].

    “No One Picks Up the Phone, but Which Online Polls Are the Answer?”, Nate Cohn, July 2, 2019, New York Times.

    You keep arguing that the DIRT standard, 1,000 online sample, should be viewed as reliable even though in political polls they haven’t been shown to produce reliable results. Even Pew uses much larger samples for it’s important surveys as shown in my earlier email and then they incorporate telephone survey profiling.

    The reason you’ve failed to respond to my challenge to find an 1000 online sample reputable political poll is because you won’t find one.

    You also need to quit using the word “data”as an cover for your ignorance and unfounded assumptions. The upset in Washington’s Third was having an putative congressional R voting with the Ds on critical party issues. The district has always been swing which is why Herrera has been tacking Left for years. The party, correctly, determined it to be better to try for an candidate reflecting the party’s values rather than give up that seat to someone working against them from the inside. Plus, Herrera is an giant lightweight which played into her behavior and stupid decision making regarding Trump. Republicans were tired of being represented by an lightweight.

  241. MB says: • Website
    @Curle

    Ah, yes. Cristine G.
    Hey, at least I got Dino right.
    More than a few folks didn’t appreciate my suggestion at the time that we should forget about Iraq and implement the blue dyed finger to show you already voted once in Washington.
    This is Uhmerica, it can’t happen here supposedly.
    From what little I know the Repugs largely seem to be spineless in Wa., but I would be happy to hear otherwise.
    cheers

    • Replies: @Curle
  242. JR Ewing says:

    re: The polls were really wrong!

    Part of the problem with polling is that it only measures actual people, not necessarily those who will just willingly give their ballot over to someone else. Nor does it take into account the obviously outsized effect that certain participants have over the results relative to other participants.

    Kari Lake almost certainly was up by +5% or more among likely voters, just like the polls predicted, and would have won had those been the only votes that counted during the election. But there was a greater number of ballots that were turned in that proved the difference.

    It might be wise for pollsters to start asking, “First, who do you support in the election? And second, how many ballots do you intend to submit before Election Day?”

    Obviously that statement is made tongue in cheek, but this isn’t necessarily a flippant sentiment. Polls used to be more predictive and more accurate when one could distinguish between “adults” and “registered voters” and “likely voters”. That distinction seems to be breaking down because a lot of those adults and registered voters are still participating in the process, just not of their own volition.

    Perhaps another way to account for it might be, as part of “likely voter” determination, to ask if they intend to sit on their ballot or give it to someone else before the election. A good pollster might be able to suss out the potential for post-election mail-in shenanigans with the right kind of questions.

  243. Muggles says:
    @PhysicistDave

    It is also true of the break-up of Yugoslavia and Czechoslovakia and Sudan, to mention other recent examples.

    I didn’t say this never happens, but your list is short and beside the point.

    The Czechs and Slovaks peacefully broke up, as they had been separate in the recent past. Yugoslavia had a violent struggle after the USSR disintegrated. Sudan, civil war. I don’t think the US “Deep State” had much to do with these. Also, East Timor and others.

    The Ukraine borders were decided by post USSR breakup treaty. National leaders in both nations signed those. Later, Putin pushed his way into Crimea illegally (with some historical basis) and later did a rump invasion of Donbass with his ‘little green men.”

    Recently Putin unilaterally tells Russians that Ukraine is a fake nation. Tanks roll in, and now roll out. Hardly all the fault of the Deep State in the US. Doesn’t Russia have one too?

    You fail to provide any basis for assuming the UN Charter has much to do with this situation, or my hypothetical Texas breakaway Republic (again!).

    I’m not a fan of the US Deep State (whoever) nor even the Shallow State. But like too many current somewhat sound libertarians (I assume you are) you see only the US as the guilty party everywhere. You assume US hegemony as some master manipulator. Ignoring Iraq, Afghanistan, and numerous other places where US aims were thwarted.

    You need to discuss the relative merits of the “Deep State” in other places vs. the US. How about Britain, Russia, China, France, Germany, etc. ?

    Statism isn’t a purely American disease, which some libertarians appear to believe. We are far less statist in history and in governance that most other nations of any importance.

    There is a reason every nation bordering Russia (to the west and some to the south) want to be in NATO. Those who weren’t are now ringing the NATO doorbell. Why is that? More US “Deep State” magic and stealth? Or does Mr. Putin’s one party rule have some basis for that?

    The notion that the US is the only dangerous government on the planet is childish at best. I have noticed that self proclaimed libertarians (LRC has many) despite claiming this, never seem to move away to some less dangerous nation? Sure Ed Snowden had to go to Russia, okay.

    But you? Nope. What major nation is less ruled by statist ideology?

    Don’t let recognition of the Deep State here become some kind of blinder to reality. It is less deep here (though dangerous) than it is in other major powers like Russia and China, where their Deep State is a visible and anti democratic mafia which kills opponents.

    Not so here Dave. The USA isn’t some wolf in a world of innocent sheep. Libertarians who believe that are willfully stupid. Sorry…

  244. Curle says:
    @MB

    Mostly true. Cathy McMorris Rodgers used to be an exception and I hope still is but who knows after extended exposure to Paul Ryan?

  245. Curle says:
    @JR Ewing

    “it was the way the MSM just pretended it didn’t matter at all.”

    Home wrecking Maria is an old story. Goes back farther than the Rossi/Gregoire race.

  246. @Coemgen

    Peak Stupidity post coming, but, if you’d read my comments thoroughly, you’d see that I noted that President Trump had loads of the American people behind him. We could have helped put pressure on the right people, but instead of using his real supporters, Trump hired some of the very Globalist Republicans and backstabbers of which you speak. Then there are the Federal bureaucrats of which you speak.

    Two words: “Ya fiyad!”

    I saw him say that a bunch of times in ads for his TV show way back. Somehow, he couldn’t come up with these words in real life when it would have helped. It’s called being an executive. You fire the right people in ICE and the BP, hire a guy that’s actually on your freaking side!, and the bureaucrats get the picture pronto.

  247. @Muggles

    “Don’t let recognition of the Deep State here become some kind of blinder to reality. It is less deep here (though dangerous) than it is in other major powers like Russia and China, where their Deep State is a visible and anti democratic mafia which kills opponents.”

    One of the major problems is that our Deep State has subverted the Constitution in the pursuit of synching out form of government with that of the EU and beyond. Much of what it demands of foreign countries as economic or military partners is anathema to the American people and generally unconstitutional or at least controversial here. Abortion is a persistent matter, obviously not a forgone conclusion in the US. Then there is the extreme cultural agenda still being faught out here while being imposed on countries with more traditional cultures: women’s rights, gay rights and transgender. I think more conservative Americans are finally catching on to the fact that its a faction of our very own government insisting on modernizing the cultures of countries that do business with us and that what hasn’t yet been forced on Americans will necessarily be required in the near future.

    Apart from political values not our own being implemented by the Deep State, this faction overwhelmingly makes our military and foreign policy decisions. Consent gets manufactured through propaganda disguised as news but the real reason for our choices as a country are obfuscated. For decades we’ve sent our military out into the world without the justification of needing to protect our Homeland. There’s usually a claim we are at least protecting our interests but of late with Afghanistan and now the Ukraine, there’s more question about just whose interests are actually at stake. The corruption runs deeper than even the Deep State. Also, we as Americans are giving tacit approval to actions that are based in incompetence or immorality.

    As far as I can see, the competition is among various undemocratic world orders with opting out not allowed because the government wants global dominance and the monied interests always seek more wealth. It’s not really a question of lesser evils but of whether or not forms of government like our own can be maintained. (An aside issue is how other countries will react to the military and economic pressure the US or the EU might place on them vs how they function when things are going well. The US also vacillates between being more or less democratic during wartime or major economic distress.). I think it’s important that we continue being able to cooperate with other countries that don’t seem as enlightened as we are rather than demanding that they transform themselves into a replica of the US. We’re currently being very inconsistent in holding some countries to absolute standards while giving unconditional acceptance to others no matter what. We could also exist in the less complicated state of self-sufficiency aka isolationism but that option is unpopular with so many people like yourself.

  248. Precious says:
    @Jus' Sayin'...

    OT but I suspect that Trump will be preempted by the possible start of WW III.

    It turned out your comment was directly on topic. The White House was so worried that Trump was going to announce something else they were all set to start World War III just to distract everyone. Now they have thrown away one of their best false flag operations and had to walk it back. Well-played Trump, well-played.

    • Replies: @Curle
  249. @Muggles

    Muggles wrote to me:

    The Ukraine borders were decided by post USSR breakup treaty. National leaders in both nations signed those. Later, Putin pushed his way into Crimea illegally (with some historical basis) and later did a rump invasion of Donbass with his ‘little green men.”

    No, that is not what happened.

    In 2014, the US orchestrated a putsch against the elected government of Ukraine. The people of West Ukraine went along with the putsch and seceded from the country of Ukraine.

    East Ukraine declined to join the new country, as was their obvious right.

    There is no requirement under international law to accede to the demands of putschists.

    Muggles also wrote to me:

    You fail to provide any basis for assuming the UN Charter has much to do with this situation, or my hypothetical Texas breakaway Republic (again!).

    What on earth could “self determination of peoples” mean if not the right of people to decline to join in a secessionist putschist regime?????

    And, of course, yes, I obviously do support the right of Texas to secede, just as I support their right to have seceded from Mexico.

    Self-determination of peoples.

    I think you are confusing the fact that the UN is well-known to be a corrupt organization made of gangs of thieves willing to be bought off by the US government with the principle of self-determination of peoples embodied in the UN Charter.

    Of course, they do not mean it! The UN is just a welfare scam to give some cushy jobs to some international bureaucrats. And, of course, it was established simply as a propaganda ploy to enable the Anglo-American Establishment to maintain its grip on the world.

    But the fact that whole scam is a criminal organization and the fact that they do not actually mean anything that is in the UN Charter do no invalidate the principle of self-determination of peoples.

    Sure: they are all lying hypocrites. But hypocrisy is the compliment that vice pays to virtue.

    That is precisely why we should hold the feet to the fire of thugs like HA, Corvinus, Jack D, etc. and ask them on the record if they support the principle of self-determination of peoples as applied to the Donbass.

    The fact that they will not respond proves what murderously lying hypocrites they are.

    Muggles also wrote:

    You need to discuss the relative merits of the “Deep State” in other places vs. the US. How about Britain, Russia, China, France, Germany, etc. ?

    Statism isn’t a purely American disease, which some libertarians appear to believe. We are far less statist in history and in governance that most other nations of any importance.

    Britain, France, and Germany are under the US thumb, literally occupied by the US military.

    That fact was settled in the Suez Crisis in 1956 when Washington simply gave orders to London and Paris to reverse course.

    And they meekly obeyed.

    I am an anarchist: I hate and despise all governments.

    But through my entire lifetime, well over a half century, no government on earth has attacked, invaded, bombed, or conquered as many other countries as the US government.

    Empirically, the US government is overwhelmingly the primary threat to world peace.

    And it also happens to be the one and only government that is taxing me to support its evil actions and that risks getting me killed in a nuclear war.

    So, as evil as all governments are, yes, there are compelling reasons why all decent human beings, and most especially Americans, should single out the US government for condemnation.

  250. BosTex says:
    @Muggles

    Thanks Muggles. Interesting post.

    I am sure that someone other than me will provide a better, broader response, but I think you are mistaken in your mention of the Yugoslav Civil War.

    The United States was heavily involved in that war, and not in a neutral peacemaking way, but aggressively pushing the interests of the Croatians and Muslims against the Serbians.

    Who was “right” in that struggle?

    I don’t know: similar to Ukraine – Russia, these people have been pissing all over each other for about 1000 years: everybody concerned has got a legitimate beef and plenty of illegitimate ones, as well.

    Frankly: I do see in the Yugoslav War a prototype for America’s overactive foreign and “defense” policies, post the Cold War.

    The post-Cold War interventions have been interventions without real American interests at stake, where we take a side and it is unclear who is in the right or wrong or why we are taking a side or are involved at all.

  251. Curle says:
    @Precious

    “The White House was so worried that Trump was going to announce something else”

    What?

    • Replies: @Precious
  252. Precious says:
    @Curle

    What?

    I don’t know, I never had any security clearance, let alone the President’s security clearance. Trump said he caught them all, and their constant fear means they don’t think he is bluffing.

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