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Donald J. Trump tweets:
Meeting with “Chuck and Nancy” today about keeping government open and working. Problem is they want illegal immigrants flooding into our Country unchecked, are weak on Crime and want to substantially RAISE Taxes. I don’t see a deal!
I tweet back:
WRONG, Mr. President.
“Chuck and Nancy” DON’T want illegal immigrants flooding into our Country unchecked. Instead, they want to make them into legal immigrants flooding into our country unchecked so they can get the vote and vote Democrat.
Also, while Gary Oldman was of course great as Chuck, Chloe Webb really steals the show as Nancy.
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I don’t even think they care if they’re legal. Without voter ID, or with the old fashioned sjw guilt trip to let anyone vote, they’ll be voting in many jurisdictions regardless.
Too bad Trump isn’t real! He could’ve saved the country.
Instead Trump has signed the death certificate on America. By not securing our demographic future as a great Western European nation (sending all illegals home) he is cementing our downfall.
We are going into the Great Chaos Period which will consist of 1. Bolshevik revolution 2. Civil war 3. Post-constitutional dictatorship
Bannon explained all of this! And Trump nodded and cynically used the crisis as an avenue to the white house. He never had any intention of deporting anyone except the very worst illegal gang members. But average gang member illegals can stay! Only the very worst go back.
It’s a catastrophe. Trump’s kids will be chased out of the country by the Red Guards…
Did Charles Pewitt ghostwriter this post for you? This has his syntax all over it.
This can’t end well. Chuck and Nancy had better get off the smack and stay away from knives.
For some reason my mind registered former California gubernatorial candidate Gary Coleman as I was reading that.
I don’t get Twitter. You, Steve Sailer, can “tweet” back at Trump, with a reasonable expectation he’ll read what you wrote?
Sid Vicious had balls. Could anyone imagine, in this age of offense, a rockstar with a full-on swastika t-shirt nowadays?
Wait, I don't mean literally not true, as that's not my call, but I don't think he had to during that era in order to wear his Swasticker t-shirt. I was around then. Anything that was over the top like that was let slide whether considered left-wing politically, or right, back in the 80's. Punk rockers especially got a pass, as I think lots of people were scared of them.
The only part that really worried me was that mosh-pit crap. I mean, you've got to be pretty wasted to not mind some guys jumping off the stage right on top of your head. I think they just wanted to start fights, and the real fans would probably have been extremely proud to have gotten a black eye from Sid Vicious or any of those guys, maybe even a boot-heal indentation on their skulls... helps pick up chicks next show (not the kind I'd want, but to each his own).Replies: @Brutusale
Whoever promoted him, his look, and his lifestyle needs to apologize to the rest of civilization.Replies: @TelfoedJohn
A tweet like that goes into a stack and can potentially be read by the public. It is not necessarily read by the account holder. Since Steve got Trump elected though, the president probably reads everything he writes and certainly must play golf regularly with him.
Plus helps with allocating more electoral votes and representatives to already dem states like CA.
Somewhat related: a major national newspaper says, in an editorial
I guess Africans are allowed to say that.
http://www.dailynews.co.tz/index.php/editorial/54502-foreigners-do-not-deserve-tanzanian-identity-cards
Rest assured that an editorial of this sense would never appear in New York City's Daily News whose current editorial policy is kindergarten liberalism of the lowest degree.
It really is a shame in light of the DN's ancient history of upright conservatism just like the Chicago Tribune, its previous owner.
Sure.Bono. (If we include Bizarro World rock stars.)
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'Read the whole thing there' -- it really is unbelievable.
A comment on it:
The quality of reasoning (and writing) in this piece is so low it's hard to believe the author is a professor anywhere, especially at an elite institution like Michigan. (It's obvious standards have fallen.) And no, Spencer is not a nazi. He's an ethno-nationalist, similar to the ethno-nationalists who founded this country - Jefferson, Washington, Hamilton, et al. People who call Spencer a nazi are either ignorant, or afraid to engage with and attempt to refute his ideas, which are truthful, powerful, and which in the end will prevail - at Michigan and across the United States
The author of the op-ed, (((Roi Livne))), is apparently an Israeli who got a PhD in Sociology from UC-Berkeley.Replies: @eah, @nebulafox
# of rifles in the hands of white Alabamans >> 1 can of pepper spray belonging to Tim Wise (oh, plus one Yankee Army 2.0 consisting of 20% illegal aliens, 20% women, and various and sundry transvestites and other oddities)Replies: @SteveRogers42
Is he not getting speaking gigs anymore? He seems completely unhinged, like he is going through a real low point in his life and lashing out at random nobodies to try to cheer himself up. Declining income and status would be the easy bet. Maybe his wife is cheating?Replies: @eah, @The Last Real Calvinist
I had similar questions until I briefly used Twitter for almost a year 2016-17.
Roughly 200 (or 2,000, or 20,000) people send Trump tweets every day. Do you think it’s reasonable he (or even one of his aides) reads each one of them?
Usually there’s a filter for tweeters who are followed by the account, in this case Trump has a much larger chance of reading Steve’s tweet if he follows him. I don’t think he does, though.
But it will likely be read by followers of Steve, especially if they are also followers of Trump.
https://twitter.com/timjacobwise/status/935720587443490821Replies: @eah, @Kylie, @Autochthon, @Achmed E. Newman, @27 year old, @Forbes, @nebulafox
The Michigan Daily — Op-Ed: The University dodges responsibility
‘Read the whole thing there’ — it really is unbelievable.
A comment on it:
The quality of reasoning (and writing) in this piece is so low it’s hard to believe the author is a professor anywhere, especially at an elite institution like Michigan. (It’s obvious standards have fallen.) And no, Spencer is not a nazi. He’s an ethno-nationalist, similar to the ethno-nationalists who founded this country – Jefferson, Washington, Hamilton, et al. People who call Spencer a nazi are either ignorant, or afraid to engage with and attempt to refute his ideas, which are truthful, powerful, and which in the end will prevail – at Michigan and across the United States
The author of the op-ed, (((Roi Livne))), is apparently an Israeli who got a PhD in Sociology from UC-Berkeley.
http://expo.advance.net/img/c8b978ac77/width960/112117_spencer_meeting_hd8.JPGReplies: @Olorin
'Read the whole thing there' -- it really is unbelievable.
A comment on it:
The quality of reasoning (and writing) in this piece is so low it's hard to believe the author is a professor anywhere, especially at an elite institution like Michigan. (It's obvious standards have fallen.) And no, Spencer is not a nazi. He's an ethno-nationalist, similar to the ethno-nationalists who founded this country - Jefferson, Washington, Hamilton, et al. People who call Spencer a nazi are either ignorant, or afraid to engage with and attempt to refute his ideas, which are truthful, powerful, and which in the end will prevail - at Michigan and across the United States
The author of the op-ed, (((Roi Livne))), is apparently an Israeli who got a PhD in Sociology from UC-Berkeley.Replies: @eah, @nebulafox
University of Michigan students plan walk-out to protest Richard Spencer
BTW, that creetcha in the left foreground--is that its hair, or does it have Ray Milland in a wig grafted to its shoulder?
I'm seeing more and more of this hair dealie where top and bottom or two sides are different. The SchizoTonsorial Age is upon us.
I’ll bet most voting fraud comes from green card holders who are here legally but obviously are not citizens. Illegals prefer to be off radar. Sure some illegals have the balls to vote but most fraudsters are legal resident aliens and the US is chock full of them.
President Trump has been highly disappointing on the immigration question. Drugs are pouring over the border and poisoning our people. Illegal alien invaders are flooding into the United States and the leadership of both parties strongly encourages it. Trump says he knows all about prefabricated cement panels for walls and floors, yet he has not built anything but demonstration bits of potential walls.
President Trump is trying to bamboozle his voter base by accusing others of being weak on immigration; as much as it pains me to say it, our beloved Trumpy himself has been the weak one on immigration.
Every illegal alien invader in the United States must be deported immediately.
All legal immigration should be halted immediately.
IMMIGRATION MORATORIUM NOW!
President Trump should make deals with Democrats on eliminating job-killing, sovereignty-sapping trade deal scams. Trump will lose millions of White Core American votes in swing states if he goes ahead with his treasonous plan to collude with Democrats to give amnesty or any kind of legal recognition to Obama’s pet illegal alien invaders. Obama’s unlawful administrative amnesty for illegal alien invaders must be ignored and all illegal alien invaders connected to Obama’s illegal executive actions must be immediately deported.
https://twitter.com/timjacobwise/status/935720587443490821Replies: @eah, @Kylie, @Autochthon, @Achmed E. Newman, @27 year old, @Forbes, @nebulafox
Toss in a gratuitous reference to white women/black men and this Tim Wise tweet could be some of Tiny Duck’s effluvia.
Hey, don’t beat yourself up for not knowing this, IJ. It’s worse with me – I don’t even CARE what the hell these tweets do – they could all end up accumulating in Beyonce’s rectum, and I would not know any differently (cause, you know, I’m not into that … sort of … )
https://twitter.com/timjacobwise/status/935720587443490821Replies: @eah, @Kylie, @Autochthon, @Achmed E. Newman, @27 year old, @Forbes, @nebulafox
You will never find a coward like Wise saying such despicable things to the type of shit-kickers and otherwise stalwart Anglo-Celts in Alabama to whom his words are directed from behind his desk in New York City. Ironically, his mentality of cowardly yet arrogant braggadocio is exactly the kind which led to the U.S.A.’s misguided assessments that it could destroy Alabama in a couple of weeks, no sweat, during the event to which he alludes, with the result being a bloodbath for the invaders and a victory secured at great cost only several years later – and even that by sheer attrition. For all that, even today, the conquered Alabamans keep being Alabamans. Funny how that works.
https://twitter.com/timjacobwise/status/935720587443490821Replies: @eah, @Kylie, @Autochthon, @Achmed E. Newman, @27 year old, @Forbes, @nebulafox
Not really a math whiz, this guy Tim Wise.
# of rifles in the hands of white Alabamans >> 1 can of pepper spray belonging to Tim Wise (oh, plus one Yankee Army 2.0 consisting of 20% illegal aliens, 20% women, and various and sundry transvestites and other oddities)
https://sofrep.com/94786/careerism-cronyism-malfeasance-special-warfare-center-end-special-forces-capability/
"One hundred wymen, men, and others they'll test today...only 99 win the Green Beret."
Of course, the “legal/illegal” distinction is just a diplomatic nicety promulgated by Conservatism, Inc. to try to harness and control anti-immigration sentiment. As soon as everyone’s legal, we’re good, right? And Fox news fans adhere pretty well to this rhetoric.
I have been “corrected” a couple times by well meaning members of my group, but I always say, no, ALL immigration. And they look at me like I had grown horns.
Although, I wouldn’t mind increased immigration of white south africans, Brits and Euros, if they don’t bring their euro death wishes with them.
Not true.
Wait, I don’t mean literally not true, as that’s not my call, but I don’t think he had to during that era in order to wear his Swasticker t-shirt. I was around then. Anything that was over the top like that was let slide whether considered left-wing politically, or right, back in the 80’s. Punk rockers especially got a pass, as I think lots of people were scared of them.
The only part that really worried me was that mosh-pit crap. I mean, you’ve got to be pretty wasted to not mind some guys jumping off the stage right on top of your head. I think they just wanted to start fights, and the real fans would probably have been extremely proud to have gotten a black eye from Sid Vicious or any of those guys, maybe even a boot-heal indentation on their skulls… helps pick up chicks next show (not the kind I’d want, but to each his own).
You got me to look up pictures of Sid Vicious. Ah, such a charming persona. He looked like a skinny, drug and alcohol-addled loser. No tattoos or piercings in the 70’s however.
Whoever promoted him, his look, and his lifestyle needs to apologize to the rest of civilization.
https://youtu.be/d5NSylSJ5wo
Now Trump is getting accused of something approaching hate speech because he retweeted 3 videos of Muslims behaving badly. Those videos were presented in tweets from some “far-right” party in England, so that is a major focus of the criticism. Yet the tweets were essentially nothing but those videos themselves — videos depicting an uncontested truth.
Trump’s critics seem to imagine that major point and sputter over the origin of the tweets is a big win for their side. But of course the only thing that is going to matter to the larger, persuadable voting public is the content of those videos itself. And the more attention paid to the tweets, the more people who will want to see for themselves what all the fuss is about.
This is how Trump wins when, to the elites, he seems to be losing.
People believe their damn eyes.
In some ways, Trump’s uncanny success seems to hang on his adopting a very simple policy, which seems to the sophisticates as if it can’t possibly work. He sees something, he says something. Unfiltered. Unvetted. Unprocessed in any way.
His success reminds me a bit of the success of Tit-for-tat in games involving the prisoners dilemma. It seems just too simple to be successful. Other, more complex, more deliberate strategies seem almost certain to be better. Yet it is always naive, simple minded Tit-for-tat that wins.
See it, or think it, or feel it, and say it. It seems inconceivable it would work for a President. Yet it does.
So much information has been suppressed by our elites that there's potential Streisand Effect almost whereever you, or Trump, looks.
I see that ABCNews is calling the videos "unverified".
https://twitter.com/ABCWorldNews/status/935903694671024128
What in the hell needs to be verified that isn't perfectly obvious in the videos themselves?Replies: @Marat, @Amasius
Trump's critics seem to imagine that major point and sputter over the origin of the tweets is a big win for their side. But of course the only thing that is going to matter to the larger, persuadable voting public is the content of those videos itself. And the more attention paid to the tweets, the more people who will want to see for themselves what all the fuss is about.
This is how Trump wins when, to the elites, he seems to be losing.
People believe their damn eyes.
In some ways, Trump's uncanny success seems to hang on his adopting a very simple policy, which seems to the sophisticates as if it can't possibly work. He sees something, he says something. Unfiltered. Unvetted. Unprocessed in any way.
His success reminds me a bit of the success of Tit-for-tat in games involving the prisoners dilemma. It seems just too simple to be successful. Other, more complex, more deliberate strategies seem almost certain to be better. Yet it is always naive, simple minded Tit-for-tat that wins.
See it, or think it, or feel it, and say it. It seems inconceivable it would work for a President. Yet it does.Replies: @candid_observer
In some ways, these Muslim tweets once again induce the Streisand Effect. The louder the condemnation, the more people view them — and that should be the last thing the left would want.
So much information has been suppressed by our elites that there’s potential Streisand Effect almost whereever you, or Trump, looks.
I see that ABCNews is calling the videos “unverified”.
What in the hell needs to be verified that isn’t perfectly obvious in the videos themselves?
https://www.amazon.com/Easy-Meat-Britains-Grooming-Scandal/dp/1943003068
Terrorism is terrible, but the rape jihad is more pervasive and horrifying.
Let Theresa the Disgraceful Cow get all butthurt over what she and her friends have allowed to happen to the young White women and girls of the UK.
https://twitter.com/timjacobwise/status/935720587443490821Replies: @eah, @Kylie, @Autochthon, @Achmed E. Newman, @27 year old, @Forbes, @nebulafox
I spent about 90 seconds scrolling (((Tim Wise))) Twitter feed. He’s always been a piece of shit but… Wow just wow.
Is he not getting speaking gigs anymore? He seems completely unhinged, like he is going through a real low point in his life and lashing out at random nobodies to try to cheer himself up. Declining income and status would be the easy bet. Maybe his wife is cheating?
Like Keith Olbermann -- 'Trump Derangement Syndrome'.
https://sfcmac.files.wordpress.com/2017/10/keith-olbermann-moonbat.png
Is he not getting speaking gigs anymore? He seems completely unhinged, like he is going through a real low point in his life and lashing out at random nobodies to try to cheer himself up. Declining income and status would be the easy bet. Maybe his wife is cheating?Replies: @eah, @The Last Real Calvinist
He seems completely unhinged
Like Keith Olbermann — ‘Trump Derangement Syndrome’.
http://www.dailynews.co.tz/index.php/editorial/54502-foreigners-do-not-deserve-tanzanian-identity-cardsReplies: @Dan Hayes
J. Dart:
Rest assured that an editorial of this sense would never appear in New York City’s Daily News whose current editorial policy is kindergarten liberalism of the lowest degree.
It really is a shame in light of the DN’s ancient history of upright conservatism just like the Chicago Tribune, its previous owner.
Somewhat related:
A glimpse of our future, courtesy of Worldstarhiphop. A black American tells an African immigrant to go back to his country, and then they scrap, while Indian immigrants look away, the Puerto Ricans smile, and the white guy breaks it up.
http://www.worldstarhiphop.com/videos/video.php?v=wshhQW23I3AT8v5c3e66
Instead Trump has signed the death certificate on America. By not securing our demographic future as a great Western European nation (sending all illegals home) he is cementing our downfall.
We are going into the Great Chaos Period which will consist of 1. Bolshevik revolution 2. Civil war 3. Post-constitutional dictatorship
Bannon explained all of this! And Trump nodded and cynically used the crisis as an avenue to the white house. He never had any intention of deporting anyone except the very worst illegal gang members. But average gang member illegals can stay! Only the very worst go back.
It's a catastrophe. Trump's kids will be chased out of the country by the Red Guards...Replies: @Kevin C.
More likely the Trumps get Romanov-ed. Liberal media types have already compared the two families…
Thanks. Now would you say Twitter is a satisfactory substitute for the comment sections that so many news sites have eliminated?
So much information has been suppressed by our elites that there's potential Streisand Effect almost whereever you, or Trump, looks.
I see that ABCNews is calling the videos "unverified".
https://twitter.com/ABCWorldNews/status/935903694671024128
What in the hell needs to be verified that isn't perfectly obvious in the videos themselves?Replies: @Marat, @Amasius
Maybe this is always Trump’s deliberate strategy: sloppy on facts but correct on larger picture. It makes the nitpickers appear to be apologists as details about provenance of the story/ video are obsessed over at the expense of considering the content. The average person sees his presentation as “good enough for government work”.
I think this idea that mainstream centre-left parties have this ongoing strategy to bring in more non-white voters because they will vote centre-left is over blown. Sure they get more non-white centre left voters, but they also lose lots of working class white voters in the process. The Democrats (like most centre-left parties in the West) were doing fine in the 1950s when they opposed immigration and focused on the white working class. Sure, in the long run, increased non-white immigration may finally doom the Republicans, but political parties don’t operate on that kind of time scale.
In a modern democracy, getting votes is secondary to getting donors. The Democrats support more non-white immigration because they want more donors. More non-white immigration equals more support from big business, more support from NGOs, and more donations from wealthy immigrants who want more of their kind in the country.
That last point in particular, seems to be overlooked by most people on the alternative right. Non-white immigrants aren’t passive actors in white-run politics, they can and do bribe and cajole white people into doing things that serve their interest.
https://twitter.com/timjacobwise/status/935720587443490821Replies: @eah, @Kylie, @Autochthon, @Achmed E. Newman, @27 year old, @Forbes, @nebulafox
There’s no self-awareness on the prog-left. This stuff vomited up is laughable, hilarious. And fascistic, yet that’s the accusation and name-calling they’d employ with those that simply disagree with their dictatorial pronouncements.
The other night, some TV newsreader referred to illegals as “undocumented workers” in another evasion of reality–making them into a widget employed as a cog in the economy.
Can someone/anyone explain the Gary Oldman/Chloe Webb analogy to Chuck and Nancy. Completely off my radar…
That idiot couldn’t even play bass and turned a solid, upcoming young rock act into a media spectacle doomed to an early death.
So much information has been suppressed by our elites that there's potential Streisand Effect almost whereever you, or Trump, looks.
I see that ABCNews is calling the videos "unverified".
https://twitter.com/ABCWorldNews/status/935903694671024128
What in the hell needs to be verified that isn't perfectly obvious in the videos themselves?Replies: @Marat, @Amasius
I wish Trump would tweet a link to this:
Terrorism is terrible, but the rape jihad is more pervasive and horrifying.
Let Theresa the Disgraceful Cow get all butthurt over what she and her friends have allowed to happen to the young White women and girls of the UK.
'Read the whole thing there' -- it really is unbelievable.
A comment on it:
The quality of reasoning (and writing) in this piece is so low it's hard to believe the author is a professor anywhere, especially at an elite institution like Michigan. (It's obvious standards have fallen.) And no, Spencer is not a nazi. He's an ethno-nationalist, similar to the ethno-nationalists who founded this country - Jefferson, Washington, Hamilton, et al. People who call Spencer a nazi are either ignorant, or afraid to engage with and attempt to refute his ideas, which are truthful, powerful, and which in the end will prevail - at Michigan and across the United States
The author of the op-ed, (((Roi Livne))), is apparently an Israeli who got a PhD in Sociology from UC-Berkeley.Replies: @eah, @nebulafox
I guess it shouldn’t surprise everybody that the Israelis, who, unlike their American co-religionists, actually do deal with anti-Semitic whackjobs who literally want them all dead on a daily basis, aren’t really buying into the idea that they have more to fear from white nationalist losers than armed jihadis, political correctness be damned. A lot of French Jews increasingly agree, hence why many have fled to Israel and those that remain have turned Jewish centers in Paris into compounds with high walls and guards.
Why are they "losers"? -- are Zionists, ie 'Jewish nationalists', also "losers"?Replies: @nebulafox
President Trump is trying to bamboozle his voter base by accusing others of being weak on immigration; as much as it pains me to say it, our beloved Trumpy himself has been the weak one on immigration.
Every illegal alien invader in the United States must be deported immediately.
All legal immigration should be halted immediately.
IMMIGRATION MORATORIUM NOW!
President Trump should make deals with Democrats on eliminating job-killing, sovereignty-sapping trade deal scams. Trump will lose millions of White Core American votes in swing states if he goes ahead with his treasonous plan to collude with Democrats to give amnesty or any kind of legal recognition to Obama's pet illegal alien invaders. Obama's unlawful administrative amnesty for illegal alien invaders must be ignored and all illegal alien invaders connected to Obama's illegal executive actions must be immediately deported.Replies: @Jack Hanson
Pewitt you sound like those guys who write tldr rants about how the border should be mined and anyone caught should be put in a work camp to build the Wall and machine gunned ASAP if they refuse to work. Histrionic fantasy that you honestly believe should be taken seriously.
The Obama v Trump admins have been night and day as far as immigration goes. Please stop with the Boomer posting since your generation was busy getting stoned out of its mind when Hart Cellar passed and we have Trump eating the elephant one bite at a time making things right.
https://twitter.com/timjacobwise/status/935720587443490821Replies: @eah, @Kylie, @Autochthon, @Achmed E. Newman, @27 year old, @Forbes, @nebulafox
This literally could serve as propaganda for the Moore campaign.
These people lack self-awareness so badly, they can’t figure out that the New York Times and coastal liberals attacking him, and coupling that with shots at the Deep South in general, *helps* him in Alabama, not the other way around. They really think the world revolves around them and all people are in awe of them. The narcissism is palpable, and this narcissism helps scumbags like Moore get elected.
Then again, these are the same people who last year thought denouncing Trump for deviating from neoliberal/neocon norms in foreign policy, and advocating that America simply follow a cost/benefits approach to foreign policy, somehow hurt him with voters away from the Paper Belt.
Whoever promoted him, his look, and his lifestyle needs to apologize to the rest of civilization.Replies: @TelfoedJohn
I don’t think he should be admired exactly, but he was an ultimate archetype of the terrible consequences of the degenerate end of the sixties. His mother was a heroin junkie who never gave him a chance.
Is he not getting speaking gigs anymore? He seems completely unhinged, like he is going through a real low point in his life and lashing out at random nobodies to try to cheer himself up. Declining income and status would be the easy bet. Maybe his wife is cheating?Replies: @eah, @The Last Real Calvinist
He most certainly is. I received my copy of the alumni magazine from my Midwestern liberal arts college alma mater just this week, and they had a glowing little article on the seminar Tim recently led there.
# of rifles in the hands of white Alabamans >> 1 can of pepper spray belonging to Tim Wise (oh, plus one Yankee Army 2.0 consisting of 20% illegal aliens, 20% women, and various and sundry transvestites and other oddities)Replies: @SteveRogers42
The Yankee Army is in even worse shape than we’re aware of:
https://sofrep.com/94786/careerism-cronyism-malfeasance-special-warfare-center-end-special-forces-capability/
“One hundred wymen, men, and others they’ll test today…only 99 win the Green Beret.”
Augsburg College, across the street from the University of Minnesota, hosted something called Inter-race Institute. At the same time, the school was taking large donations from an alumnus named Elroy Stock and were about to name an annex after him– when it was discovered that he was mailing cautionary letters, by the hundreds, to interracial couples who announced their engagements in various newspapers.
And they say flyover country is dull…
white nationalist losers
Why are they “losers”? — are Zionists, ie ‘Jewish nationalists’, also “losers”?
Twitter is not a satisfactory substitute for comment sections, because it is at remove from the material being commented on. Doing away with direct comments is like taking the letters out of a newspaper’s editorial section: it shuts up the readers and frees the editors from any obligation to listen.
Why are they "losers"? -- are Zionists, ie 'Jewish nationalists', also "losers"?Replies: @nebulafox
Because:
1) Aping the Left’s identity politics, and embracing the shallowness and celebration of mediocrity implicit in that, does not appeal to me. You don’t fight monsters to become one.
Yes, I’m white. No, I’m not sorry for it. Yes, I’m proud of what my ancestors have achieved in history-for all the problems we’ve caused, we’ve taken humanity to pinnacles of progress that no other race can claim. Yes, I’m going to naturally root for my team, just as Asians, blacks, et all, root for theirs. But I feel no mystical connection to some Aryan Brotherhood punk sitting behind bars by virtue of the color of our skin (nor do I feel any mystical connection to, say, Hillary Clinton, by virtue of her skin), I loathe neo-Nazis who fetishize a madman who would have murdered 50 million+ people in Generalplan Ost had he not been stopped, and I believe that American citizens should enjoy the same rights and be judged on their value to society and their loyalty, not their origin. Furthermore, people who actively embrace the idea of a white ethno-state really have no freaking clue, sitting comfortably behind their computers, how utterly nasty sectarian, racial wars are. We do not want one.
2) The emphasis on white nationalism found in sections of the alt-right is a major turn-off for groups (such as Asians, newer waves of Jews from the former USSR, and Gabbard style Democrats) who might otherwise be privately open to many alt-right talking points, especially as the left gets ever-loonier. One of the major strengths of the alt-right is not being chained to idiotic positions held by “conservatives” in the US, such as yet more major tax cuts for guys like Zuckerberg who vote against them and fulfilling his wishes on H1B visas, losing wars of choice abroad, and ranting on about gays and abortion (an important weapon in keeping Central American migrant birth rates down, BTW) when we’ve got far, far bigger socio-cultural problems. It is *imperative* to keep distinguishing from the GOP if Generation Z is to be fully won over. The alt-right shouldn’t piss this away by embracing white purity.
3) Feeding into that, actively discrediting enemy propaganda is hard enough without Cletus the local Aryan skinhead becoming your major image in the public mind. If, again, more Asians became sympathetic to alt-right talking points, it’d be much harder all of a sudden for the MSM to play the “racist” card when it comes to talking points like cracking down on illegal immigration, etc.
(Hell, I can even see assimilated Muslims agreeing on a lot of the problems about modern feminism and bipartisan stupidity in the Middle East, while the more sane feminists agree about the dangers of uncontrolled migration from the Islamic World and might be forced to recognize the problems of “intersectionality”. The more internal contradictions created in the Coalition of Fringes, the more likely the whole thing collapses. Just keep pounding away.)
4) It’s also important for the alt-right to embrace the countercultural, irreverent vibe-not a role that is natural for conservatives, but that’s the key, given the stodgy, increasingly authoritarian/clergy-esque left-wing establishment. The media must be parodied, made fun of themselves in the public imagination, like they do to others all the time. Not easy to do that with a throwback ideology like white nationalism.
I don’t want to go on for too long, because I spent way too much time commenting today… but even if we don’t get into matters of belief, and right and wrong, etc, citizenism and its goals are far, far more politically feasible/achievable options than white nationalism, and more pleasant for everybody.
You seem to
answerexpand on the first question, but not the 2nd, which I repeat above -- note: it's a one word answer.Democrats stand to benefit even if illegal immigrants aren’t made citizens or allowed to vote.
Congressional districts are apportioned by total population, not the citizen population or the population eligible to vote. So illegal immigrants, if steered to the right parts of the country, will boost the Democrats’ share of Congress (and the Electoral College) simply by being there.
Slave states in the antebellum period had exaggerated political power for the same reason: slaves couldn’t vote but counted for apportionment (albeit subject to the Three-Fifths Compromise).
are Zionists, ie ‘Jewish nationalists’, also “losers”?
You seem to
answerexpand on the first question, but not the 2nd, which I repeat above — note: it’s a one word answer.There are various levels of white nationalism. At the extreme you have a white-run dictatorship where non-whites are either excluded or officially treated as second class citizens. At the milder end you have white democratic majoritarianism, which basically means white majorities deciding to keep their nations majority white. Australia was a white majoritarian country until the early 1970s. Some European countries will probably go down this route in the not-to0-distant future.
At the moment I can’t see either white nationalism or citizen-based democracy being sustainable in New World countries. On the one hand, white nationalism is impractical because there are already large number of non-whites and many non-whites were already present before the whites arrived. On the other hand democracy ceases to function when people vote for political parties based on racial affiliation, and the US is fast approaching that point.
Wait, I don't mean literally not true, as that's not my call, but I don't think he had to during that era in order to wear his Swasticker t-shirt. I was around then. Anything that was over the top like that was let slide whether considered left-wing politically, or right, back in the 80's. Punk rockers especially got a pass, as I think lots of people were scared of them.
The only part that really worried me was that mosh-pit crap. I mean, you've got to be pretty wasted to not mind some guys jumping off the stage right on top of your head. I think they just wanted to start fights, and the real fans would probably have been extremely proud to have gotten a black eye from Sid Vicious or any of those guys, maybe even a boot-heal indentation on their skulls... helps pick up chicks next show (not the kind I'd want, but to each his own).Replies: @Brutusale
Sid never saw the 80s. Died in 1979, if memory serves.
paid my proper respectstried to get more money for that used LP.I'm getting my decades confused a bit. Thanks.How does that one go again? "If you can remember the '80's, not enough people jumped onto your head in the mosh pit."https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sid_and_Nancy
http://expo.advance.net/img/c8b978ac77/width960/112117_spencer_meeting_hd8.JPGReplies: @Olorin
Any excuse to avoid homework and finals.
BTW, that creetcha in the left foreground–is that its hair, or does it have Ray Milland in a wig grafted to its shoulder?
I’m seeing more and more of this hair dealie where top and bottom or two sides are different. The SchizoTonsorial Age is upon us.
OK, Brutusale, thanks for the update. If the Sex Pistol spent more time tweeting and less time jumping onto the audience (well, that may have been after their time), I’d have learned this tidbit of information a bit earlier and could have
paid my proper respectstried to get more money for that used LP.I’m getting my decades confused a bit. Thanks.
How does that one go again? “If you can remember the ’80’s, not enough people jumped onto your head in the mosh pit.”
Thanks.