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Some interesting Medicare data on the Moral Role Models and Herox of Our Age: transgenders.

Trust all transgenders, just like you’d trust any autistic schizo drug addict with HIV.

 
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  1. “Trust all transgenders, just like you’d trust any autistic schizo drug addict with HIV.”

    … with a Harvard degree.

    • Agree: Redneck farmer
  2. I don’t care, as long as they get to go to the bathroom with my daughters!

    • Replies: @AnotherDad
    @Cool Daddy Jimbo


    I don’t care, as long as they get to go to the bathroom with my daughters!
     
    This pokes the root of the issue. The root of the whole minoritarian shit pile.

    You want to go do your own thing--fine.

    However, there is no right to mess with the functioning of the community/nation--normal productive people--i.e. the normie majority--living their lives according to their norms, customs, culture.

    Go do your own wonderful minority thing on your own dime and stop messing with us.
  3. The problem is, once they kick the drugs, then they have to comprehend the fact that they had their genitals permanently removed/mangled. It’s a vicious circle.

    • Replies: @al gore rhythms
    @JimDandy

    So just get a sex change back. After all, a man without a dick is still going to be better at pretending to be a man with a dick than he is pretending to be a woman with a vagina.

    Do you think post-op trannies ever get phantom limb syndrome from their missing penises?

    Replies: @JimDandy

    , @Mike Tre
    @JimDandy

    "hen they have to comprehend the fact that they had their genitals permanently removed/mangled. It’s a vicious circle."

    Indeed. They have drugs to treat that too.

    , @Kolya Krassotkin
    @JimDandy

    Yes, but imagine the emerging market for anti-depressants among trannies free from drugs and now forced to deal with the fact they've had themselves mutilated irreparably. And don't overlook the new market for those new fangled suicide booths for trannies with especially bad cases of depression.

  4. No surprise, but to be fair I’m guessing most transgenders who are seriously ill aren’t getting in everybody’s face. Because they cannot, if nothing else.

    It’s academic leftists and Democratic Party apparatchiks who make the issue.

    • Disagree: Cloudbuster
  5. As an autistic person I disown transgenders.

    • Thanks: Muggles
    • LOL: John Regan
    • Replies: @Tony massey
    @Pheasant

    What's that been like?

  6. Yeah, mental illnesses occur in clusters. Homosexuals are also big winners in the drugs and crazy lottery.

    • Replies: @Mina Horowitz
    @Bill

    Drugs yes, and that's a cultural thing, but I'm not sure about crazy. Depression isn't crazy. I personally don't know any schizophrenic gay men and I know a lot of gay men. Easy dopamine hits via sex are so easy for gay men that I don't think most of them have a reason to go crazy.

    Replies: @Paperback Writer, @Bill

  7. Lionel Penrose….Penrose Effect…They belong in the looney bin….with the guy who ate cockroaches in Bram Stoker’s Dracula…..

    • LOL: West reanimator
  8. Those findings are truly shocking. However the most important question(s) we need to ask are (as always); how are we as a society to blame, what laws should be changed or enacted, and why we aren’t spending more on the problem?

    • Agree: AnotherDad
    • LOL: acementhead
    • Replies: @jamie b.
    @Bernard

    Exactly: the correct way to interpret this data is to reverse the causal arrow.

  9. All mere coincidences, nothing to see here.

  10. Are the transgenders getting these treatments the same ones who are social justice shock troopers on Twitter?

  11. All the evidence I see is that this mass cohort of adolescent girls insisting they are male are just a subset of girls with BPD and an internet connection. One question I’d pose: Where are all the adult women who are trans who never grew up in a time when it was accepted or celebrated? Do they exist? Do ‘trans’ adolescent girls have a history of sexual abuse or particularly distorted perspectives of sex? It is common for conservative commentators and ‘TERFs’ to claim these girls would just have become lesbians (‘The Dems are the real homophobes!”) but the evidence I see from their own communities shows that ones who are sexually attracted to males are the majority now.

    https://www.reddit.com/r/ftm/search/?q=attracted%20to%20men&restrict_sr=1&sr_nsfw=

    At first the line was “I am a man trapped inside a women’s body” (There was no line for FtMs because until a few years ago there were practically none of them, though, hilariously they’ve recently been starting drama online because existing trans ‘spaces’ were ‘erasing’ them because they were and had been so tiny in number until recently) because this was the line which would be most socially acceptable. You and the speaker weren’t really supposed to believe it and it didn’t matter since there were few trans people and they didn’t make much of an impact.

    Now I’ve been seeing increasing numbers of them taking it literally. As in, they are biologically male or female. (Not, let’s expand the definition to fit us in too but “I have always been biologically male/female” in a 1984 way.) And that’s just delusional and the kind of thing you need to have your brain wired in a particular way to insist upon.

    Just for fun I typed ‘trans personality disorder’ into Twitter. The bulk of the posts give up by standard search (It won’t show every post) have trans people proudly proclaiming their borderline personality disorder. Seriously, these people are all over social media, they aren’t hiding.

    https://twitter.com/search?q=trans%20personality%20disorder&src=typed_query

    Like anorexia in the past, trans is attractive to borderlines. It is just the most insane maladaptive coping mechanism ever. Very few psychological disorders in 2021 have medical or surgical interventions. But this one, despite the condition not being very well understood is not only approved but there is huge pressure to expand these services as wide and early as possible. The APA has lost all credibility.

    And there are copious studies of trans individuals and personality disorders, cluster B keeps coming up. Think about it. Even if you had the impulse for it, would you? Knowing the social consequences for everyone. Would you? Parents give up a lot of happiness for their children, not dressing up like a woman when you want, even if you had the impulse would not be hard. Yet time and time again we see these married men with children, who even have quite good jobs imploding all of that. That belies something about their character. How many profiles of Sailer-type trans ‘women’ mention that as men they used to be assholes? Quite a few.

    Here is a recent Western study.

    https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32120872/

    Eighty-seven participants (40 transgender women and 47 transgender men) completed the Personality Inventory for DSM-5 and the Structured Clinical Interview for DSM-IV Axis II personality disorders. Scores obtained were compared to those of the normative samples of cisgender women and men. Results indicated that transgender women scored lower than cisgender women on two main domains (Negative Affectivity and Psychoticism) and on seven facets. As for transgender men, lower scores than cisgender men were found on Antagonism and on five facets. Transgender men scored higher than cisgender men on Depressivity. Nearly 50% of participants showed at least one PD diagnosis, with no gender differences in prevalence. Borderline PD was the most frequent diagnosis in the overall sample.

    I also like how the abstract politely mentions that the trans more resemble their sex of origin psychologically.

    And the concentrations of people with certain personality disorders shows itself again in their activism, it’s histrionic. And wokeness more generally has become histrionic. (Frequent threats that if they don’t let their child transition they will surely commit suicide, doesn’t sound like BPD at all…)

    Steve once wrote during the period where ‘there are no girls on the internet’ and Ron Paul was ‘the internet’s candidate’ that to some extent libertarianism was just applied autism. I wonder if we mightn’t be served well to start seeing wokeness as applied BPD. Today the power users of the internet are not guys with Asperger’s, they’ve teenage girls with cluster B disorders. We’re all obligated to live in the head of a 15 year old girl with daddy issues and so far it’s nearly torn the Western world apart in just a few years.

    • Replies: @Mercer
    @Altai

    "Where are all the adult women who are trans who never grew up in a time when it was accepted or celebrated?"

    They were called tomboys for the same behavior in the past.

    "married men with children, who even have quite good jobs imploding all of that. That belies something about their character."

    In the past it would implode their career now it enhances it in many places. It will still likely wreck their family relationships but males damaging their family by indulging their sexual appetites is not new.

    , @Alec Leamas (hard at work)
    @Altai


    Where are all the adult women who are trans who never grew up in a time when it was accepted or celebrated?
     
    There's a lefty lesbian journalist (her name escapes me) who is chronicling the disappearance of lesbians as a subculture - the more femme lesbians are mainstreamed while the butch types are all becoming transsexual "men." So there really aren't any more lesbian bars and bookstores and what not.

    Replies: @Skyler the Weird

    , @Jim Christian
    @Altai

    Altai, he'll of a write-up! So, did you determine racial balance in your studying on the subject? For no particular reason I cannot fathom black women falling into the trans-to-man insanity. I don't know why perfectly privileged women changing into men, other than to grab tranny privilege. Also it would be interesting to know college educated vs. non college educated in the girl>man trannies. This seems like a higher education syndrome.

    Again, Altai, great read! Excellent work.

    , @Paperback Writer
    @Altai


    Where are all the adult women who are trans who never grew up in a time when it was accepted or celebrated? Do they exist?
     
    Very few. I think most are butch lesbians. There's one, Pat Califia, who was a big butch lesbian type from San Francisco. I spent some time in Berkeley in the mid-70s and remember her. She's a FtM now.

    When I was a kid we felt sorry for lesbians. Then they became cool and chic. Now it's back to pitiable. They are like the last tribesman on a dying reservation. The last of their kind. Those who haven't "transitioned" are angry as hell and feel twice deserted.

    Replies: @Bill Jones

    , @Anonymous
    @Altai


    It is common for conservative commentators and ‘TERFs’ to claim these girls would just have become lesbians (‘The Dems are the real homophobes!”) but the evidence I see from their own communities shows that ones who are sexually attracted to males are the majority now.
     
    1) Female puberty sucks.

    2) The ubiquity of hardcore porn. Doesn't mix well with female puberty.

    3) Slash and yaoi. For some of them, it's a fetish. A far cry from the sissy hypno porn that starts so many men on the trans path, or even from classic old-school autogynephiles, but still a fetish of sorts. They want to be one of the cute gay guys they romanticize and get off to.

    4) And, of course, social contagion.


    Speaking of autogynephilic "lesbians", my impression is that 15 years ago or so they were mostly highly intelligent and usually quite successful. Now every basement-dwelling, pony-loving weaboo loser is discovering their womanhood.

    Another pathology very common among trans "women" is pedophilia. Charming folx.

    Replies: @njguy73

    , @Tony massey
    @Altai

    Altai tanks for the post. That really gives me a much better overstanding than i have had because i haven't really bothered. I don't know if this comment isn't the best I've ever read on the intetwebs. I can't believe their was nothing about the fucking joooooos.

    I also like how the abstract politely mentions that the trans more resemble their sex of origin psychologically.

    That's interesting I'll say. In my own little world (i get around not on a no-fly list yet) over the past 6-7 years i have been running into trans people.
    I tell them apart by looking at their hairy knuckles and Adams apple(that means she ain't no fucking she dude) and so far as I'm aware I've only had 3 encounters with the reverse of that and i gotta say it couldn't look faker if you died cotton balls black and with Elmer fucking horse glue well glued them on because that's what their beard looks like. And they have really really sissy like fingers that only a real true twink has. And those are the dudes.
    I'm upto about my 12th tranny. Nearly all dudes I've met uo with. I have only really spoken to one for just a few and i got a very strong impressions of a deeply sad and unhappy person that was reaching out for any kindness. They also carried a butcher knife and i do believe they were best left alone.
    Also, i hate a fucking word Nazi(ironically I'm indifferent about real Nazi) but you misspelled "moar".
    This was accepted jargonynomenclature on zer0 hedge years and years ago where i was trolling those aholes moar than a decade ago...sigh...zer0 went to pot after fonestar gavem hell for so long i just know fonestar is out there somewhere envisioning the future and being right all the while shaming fools and I'm certain you'll find I'm right if you just ax around that moar is the moar acceptable term in these interesting times we find ourselves.
    Good luck. 👌

    , @Badger Down
    @Altai

    Take me, for example. I have always known that I am a dog. "Badger" isn't really my name, just a patronymic handle, or whatever. I look almost human. When there are more of us, we can try to get some government money and degrees. As for male and female, I can't tell the difference anyway.

  12. Anonymous[353] • Disclaimer says:

    Steve Sailer:

    “Transgenders Tend to Suffer Badly from Mental Illness, Autism, Drug Abuse, and HIV”

    Maybe the reason for that is the way that conservative society treats them historically, you know, like Human scum? Which in turn leads them to drug asbuse, etc.

    It’s funny that right-wing conservatives like you mistreat and disenfranchise people for who they are, and then when they show disabilitiesa and lash out because of it, you blame them for it. I’ve never seen such callous disregard for other human beings like this.

    You want to talk about mental illness, so let’s talk about mentall illness. I think right-wing conservatives suffer from the mental illness of psychopathy. That would explain how you can so utterly disregard the needs of a significant fraction of the population(gays, transgenders, ethnic minorities, etc). Discriminating people because of the color of their skin, something that they have no control over, or their sexual orientation, when having one’s sexuality validated is essential for a person’s emotional well-being. But you only validate the sexuality of people if it is for breeding.

    The other mental illness that right-wingers suffer from is psychosis. Being a right-winger correlates very strongly to gathering at a place and worshipping an imaginary being no one has ever seen and for which there is no evidence of it’s existence.

    And the worst part is the cognitive and moral disonance. Because these right-wingers claim to follow the teachings of a man that told them to turn the other cheek, a man that embraced prostitutes and thieves, a man that told them that it’s easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich person to get into God’s kingdom, etc.

    Jesus: “Turn the other cheek.” —-> Right-wing Christian conservatives: Bigggest supporters of capital punishment

    Jesus: “it’s easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich person to get into God’s kingdom.” ———> Right wing conservatives: biggest supporters of big business

    Jesus: ““If you want to be perfect, go and sell all your possessions and give the money to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven.” Right-wing conservatives: huge supporters of private property and hate welfare for the poor.

    Jesus: Luke 7 36-50: Jesus embraces the prostitute that washes his feet with her tears and then dries them with her hair. Right-wing conservative Christians: are full of hatred for all”deviants”, and just for anyone who is different from themselves in general, such as having a different skin color or even a different lifestyle.

    I love the moral disonance of right-wing conservatives who call themselves Christians. Jesus was a liberal, and would have despised you. Well, Jesus would not despise you because he was unable to despise anyone, but he certainly would not approve of your prejudiced, discriminatory view of the World which is extremely antithetical to hsi teachings. Christians? You guys are more along the Pharisees that crucified Jesus! *That* is who you are.

    So to recapitulate the mental illnesses of the Right: a tendency towards psychopathy as well as psychosis(“The government is coming for my guns!” “Vaccines are a plan by Bill Gates f0r World control!”, “9/11 was an inside job!”), absolute moral disonance, living lifestyles that are the extreme polar opposites of the teachings of the founder of the religion that they claim to follow(“FK the poor! “Fry criminals in the electric chair”, “I will shoot anyone that enters my propert!”)

    • Troll: Jim Christian, IHTG
    • Replies: @Daniel H
    @Anonymous


    Maybe the reason for that is the way that conservative society treats them historically, you know, like Human scum? Which in turn leads them to drug asbuse, etc.
     
    There was no "history" to trannies until, what?, 10 years ago.

    Replies: @Colinsky, @mc23, @Brutusale

    , @Bardon Kaldian
    @Anonymous

    Hate to break it to you, but because I'm not a Christian & have a long-standing sympathy for transgenders & other mental sufferers ....

    Jesus was, as he is presented in Gospels, a multidimensional & contradictory man (or God-Man, if you wish). Popular, new-Agey image is of someone who is essentially a pacifist, humanist & the prophet of universal Love for all - basically a Galilean hippy.

    This is a distorted image. Jesus from the Gospels was also an apocalyptic revolutionary, a terrifying figure who, rightly, inspired awe & fear in his medieval followers .. One should only look at his great apocalyptic speeches:

    I am come to send fire on the earth; and what will I, if it be already kindled?

    For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.

    Not everyone who says to me [Jesus], ‘Lord, Lord!’ shall enter the Kingdom of God. On the Last Day many will say, ‘Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and did we not cast out demons, and did we not perform many wonderful miracles in your name?’ But I will tell them drily, ‘I never knew you. Depart from me, you who are cursed.’

    Then, putting it all in the historical context: Jesus lived in a world without medicine- Hellenistic Jews learned medicine from Greeks, but he lived his life among people whose only healthy practices were obeying their religious hygienic rules, given by their god. Otherwise, all other maladies, and especially psychological, were treated as in Babylonia - demons all around us & raving psychotics roaming the streets.

    Any reasonable person, and especially Christian, should treat these people with compassion & respect. But, being compassionate doesn't mean you're a brain-dead looney.

    And that means a serious study of the phenomenon of transgenderism, both MtF and FtM, see where they overlap & where they differ, and to see how one can help these people to become normal, or at least less unhappy.

    Which is, one should admit, frequently an impossible task. Some human lives are, simply- doomed.

    , @John Regan
    @Anonymous


    You guys are more along the Pharisees that crucified Jesus!
     
    This line shows that this is a troll and not a real leftist.

    Every real leftist knows it's antisemitic to accuse the Pharisees of crucifying Jesus Christ.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nostra_aetate
    , @ic1000
    @Anonymous

    Glad you stopped by to share your perspectives, anon-353.

    > Right wing conservatives: biggest supporters of big business

    You might want to re-visit that one. And a few of the other observations.

    Stick around, read some more, and think about things. Let the other commenters know what you figure out.

    , @Kolya Krassotkin
    @Anonymous

    No, don't tell me. Let me guess: You had your dick cut off, and you now regret it?

  13. O/T, but relevant to issue of mental illness. This is unbelievable.

    • Replies: @Mina Horowitz
    @Paperback Writer

    In before "burn the coal pay the toll". What a lot of liberal white (and I guess now asian) women who have grown up in sheltered bubbles do not understand is the risk associated with blacks. They can't protect themselves when the entire media and academic apparatuses are working 24/7 to hide them from the truth.

    , @Dmon
    @Paperback Writer

    In the CSI version, he will be White, the 5'0" 83lb Asian girlfriend will beat the crap out of him, then hook up with the black ex-wife.

    Replies: @Gary in Gramercy

    , @J.Ross
    @Paperback Writer

    TRULY -- THE ARISTOCRATS -- OF DIEVERSITY!!

    , @Art Deco
    @Paperback Writer

    Where is the evidence that he was addled by schizophrenoform disorders or some species of dementia?. This man was ill only in the metaphoric sense.

    Cannot locate a picture of the wife, but one of the gf is available. Passably easy on the eyes. She was pregnant and he evidently sired two children by the estranged wife in recent years. Not understanding what they saw in him.

    Replies: @Gabe Ruth

    , @Ripple Earthdevil
    @Paperback Writer

    A good friend worked with the ex-gf at one of the major hospitals here in the East Bay. Needless to say she's pretty shook up as are her co-workers who knew her. She was Filipina.

    Replies: @Paperback Writer

    , @Wade Hampton
    @Paperback Writer

    Black guy kills people. You find it "unbelievable". Why? With respect, your horizons need broadening. Read Nicholas Stix or Paul Kersey.

    Replies: @Paperback Writer

  14. • Replies: @Ghost of Bull Moose
    @JohnnyWalker123

    Trump only makes them crazy when he says what’s true.

    , @Prester John
    @JohnnyWalker123

    Leave it to The Don to get under the skin of the likes of Jake Tap Tap. Earth to Tap Tap: Get on with your life! Most of the country doesn't give a rat's ass one way or the other.

  15. There was also another recent documentary from the Swedish national broadcaster investigating the treatment of trans children in terms of hormone interventions for very young children just start puberty. They interview a Dutch doctor who pioneered the approach of using endocrine disruptors developed for adult cancer patients being used off-label to stall normal puberty in children. She insanely claims they don’t have any effect and allow more time to think about what they want to do. No, they have less effect than if you were to put a child on a kind of simulated cross-sex puberty but stalling their natural puberty for even a few months is huge. You don’t get back that development and you don’t have a normal development with your peers.

    These drugs still haven’t been properly clinically trialed for these purposes. They are being used off-label. The speed at which this happened is scary.

    In Sweden and the UK public health authorities are much more accountable and take their job seriously.

    They interview one trans person a man in his 50s who thought going to work every day in drag was worth losing his job over. He seems very mild mannered and not histrionic at all. But look at the artwork behind him at 12:38…

    • Thanks: Nancy
    • Replies: @Altai
    @Altai

    And sorry to triple post but that documentary is a kind of sequel to a previous one from the same show detailing the sudden spike in transgender cases in Sweden and the concentration of that increase among adolescent girls like it has everywhere. This is something that is very little known I find. You have to wonder about what kind of girls they are (Who ever heard of teenage girl BPDers who adoped a subculture and had identity issues?) and how much the online FtM communities mirror those for anorexia in the past.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Epkp8pTO6l0

    Having a new generation live so completely on social media means we see this sudden rapid weird aberrant socialisation phenomena. They are being raised and socialised in worlds the rest of us don't live in or even perceive.

    , @Mr. Anon
    @Altai


    These drugs still haven’t been properly clinically trialed for these purposes. They are being used off-label. The speed at which this happened is scary.
     
    Using endocrine disruptors off-label to turn boys into girls and vice-versa...............perfectly okay.

    Using common anti-parasitic drugs (that have been used safely on tens of millions of people for decades) off label, in order to save people from a dangerous respiratory virus ......................... that's just irresponsible and anti-science!
    , @Don Unf
    @Altai

    https://imgur.com/a/QKBRqTk
    https://www.bukowskis.com/fi/lots/1315636-elisabeth-ohlson-wallin-photograph-krucifix-signed
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elisabeth_Ohlson_Wallin


    Ohlson, a lesbian,[1] is most noted for her exhibition Ecce homo which portrayed Jesus among homosexuals and transvestites. The scenes were modern versions of stories of the New Testament, such as Jesus riding a bicycle in a gay parade like in the Triumphal entry he rode to town with a donkey. With the work, Ohlson wanted to remind people that Jesus worked with and helped the outcasts of the society. She had the idea when one of her friends died of AIDS in the early 1990s.
     
    , @Nancy
    @Altai

    Certainly clarifies how the US (& global) med institutions just said, 'how high?" when told to jump, in this Covid tragedy (and the AIDS/HIV). I wonder what leverage point the Termites are pressing to engineer the fight against the 'backlash'... probably, funding the 'support' groups, at least. (Reminds me of using the teen Greta Thunberg as face of 'climate change' hysteria... well funded, also .... and Nordic :)

  16. @Bill
    Yeah, mental illnesses occur in clusters. Homosexuals are also big winners in the drugs and crazy lottery.

    Replies: @Mina Horowitz

    Drugs yes, and that’s a cultural thing, but I’m not sure about crazy. Depression isn’t crazy. I personally don’t know any schizophrenic gay men and I know a lot of gay men. Easy dopamine hits via sex are so easy for gay men that I don’t think most of them have a reason to go crazy.

    • Replies: @Paperback Writer
    @Mina Horowitz

    Homosexuality is a way for these guys to keep it together. Even when they aren't actively practicing. Their whole mindset is pretty screwed up. The best kind of homosexual is the Tim Gunn kind, smart, high strung, and as long as he can keep an equilibrium, he's productive. I don't think Gunn is the promiscuous type.

    Then there's the Tennessee Williams type which is similar to Gunn but promiscuous. He couldn't keep it together & he just drank himself to death - but at age 72, which is not bad. His muse deserted him and there was no reason to live.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    , @Bill
    @Mina Horowitz

    For pity's sake. The CDC has a web page on it. It isn't the tiniest little bit controversial. And everyone with significant experience with homosexuals has noticed it.

  17. Why is this Emil Kierkegaard still allowed to research and publish and probably even earn a salary? And to remain on Twitter!

    Kierkegaard constantly researches and publishes taboo #HateFacts. Why does he not get cancelled? Richard Lynn is protecting him? Lynn can barely protect himself.

    Before you delete my comment, let me point out that I am glad Emil can still speak. It just baffles me.

    Regarding the issue, are Transgender people
    a) intrinsically problematic, or
    b) does society aggravate, or
    c) improve their condition?
    a yes, b yes, c rarely is my guess

    • Replies: @BB753
    @TruthRevolution.net

    Because he lives in Denmark?

  18. I’d suppose that a lot of people identifying now as “transgender” are the classical male-to-male prostitutes. This would explain the frequency of hepatitis and HIV. Also perhaps the drug abuse which is afaik higher with poor prostitutes, making their lifestyle more tolerable.

    • Replies: @Muggles
    @Stogumber

    Yes, you are discussing transvestism, which is separate (or should be) from "transgender."

    Superficial sex identity (a/k/a "gender") can be done via clothing, hairstyles, makeup and behavior affectations.

    To "identify" like this is merely acting. Most transvestites are biological males and most only do this part time in gay habitats. A few are non gay males. Historically there are females who do this but it harder for them since women have different body characteristics.

    So yes, as others note, butch lesbians can resemble men as transvestites.

    What we see now in the Woke mental cancer is the blurring or ignoring the distinction between transvestism (dress, affectations) and biological alterations. Subtraction and attempts at replication of biological parts in some cases. Subtraction is fairly "easy" while addition is not.

    Since most "transgenders" are actually just extreme dressing gay males, the social diseases and pathology of promiscuous gay males will be also present in these people.

    My hunch is that more than half of the new "transgenders" are just acting. If they wish to do so, fine with me, as long as they are adults, not children.

    The common sense rule on that is, if you are old enough to have legal sex with another adult, you should be allowed to add/subtract, so long as you are of "sound mind." What is removed can't be returned, it is a far more serious commitment.

    This "wave" of transgenderism will disappear at the next large scale social crisis (war, depression, invasion, etc.)

    Toleration is not approval. Enforced assimilation isn't toleration.

    Replies: @Paul Mendez

  19. @Paperback Writer
    O/T, but relevant to issue of mental illness. This is unbelievable.

    https://twitter.com/SumZeroX/status/1471871537561092101?s=20

    Replies: @Mina Horowitz, @Dmon, @J.Ross, @Art Deco, @Ripple Earthdevil, @Wade Hampton

    In before “burn the coal pay the toll”. What a lot of liberal white (and I guess now asian) women who have grown up in sheltered bubbles do not understand is the risk associated with blacks. They can’t protect themselves when the entire media and academic apparatuses are working 24/7 to hide them from the truth.

  20. @Paperback Writer
    O/T, but relevant to issue of mental illness. This is unbelievable.

    https://twitter.com/SumZeroX/status/1471871537561092101?s=20

    Replies: @Mina Horowitz, @Dmon, @J.Ross, @Art Deco, @Ripple Earthdevil, @Wade Hampton

    In the CSI version, he will be White, the 5’0″ 83lb Asian girlfriend will beat the crap out of him, then hook up with the black ex-wife.

    • Replies: @Gary in Gramercy
    @Dmon

    Procedural gold! Have your people call my people.

  21. If they’re Medicare beneficiaries they’re old or disabled or have failing kidneys. For what sorts of things were they declared disabled?

    • Replies: @Paul Mendez
    @Art Deco

    Medicaid eligibility is based on income and family size. In some states, all adults below a certain income level are covered.

    Replies: @Art Deco

  22. @Altai
    All the evidence I see is that this mass cohort of adolescent girls insisting they are male are just a subset of girls with BPD and an internet connection. One question I'd pose: Where are all the adult women who are trans who never grew up in a time when it was accepted or celebrated? Do they exist? Do 'trans' adolescent girls have a history of sexual abuse or particularly distorted perspectives of sex? It is common for conservative commentators and 'TERFs' to claim these girls would just have become lesbians ('The Dems are the real homophobes!") but the evidence I see from their own communities shows that ones who are sexually attracted to males are the majority now.

    https://www.reddit.com/r/ftm/search/?q=attracted%20to%20men&restrict_sr=1&sr_nsfw=

    At first the line was "I am a man trapped inside a women's body" (There was no line for FtMs because until a few years ago there were practically none of them, though, hilariously they've recently been starting drama online because existing trans 'spaces' were 'erasing' them because they were and had been so tiny in number until recently) because this was the line which would be most socially acceptable. You and the speaker weren't really supposed to believe it and it didn't matter since there were few trans people and they didn't make much of an impact.

    Now I've been seeing increasing numbers of them taking it literally. As in, they are biologically male or female. (Not, let's expand the definition to fit us in too but "I have always been biologically male/female" in a 1984 way.) And that's just delusional and the kind of thing you need to have your brain wired in a particular way to insist upon.

    Just for fun I typed 'trans personality disorder' into Twitter. The bulk of the posts give up by standard search (It won't show every post) have trans people proudly proclaiming their borderline personality disorder. Seriously, these people are all over social media, they aren't hiding.

    https://twitter.com/search?q=trans%20personality%20disorder&src=typed_query

    Like anorexia in the past, trans is attractive to borderlines. It is just the most insane maladaptive coping mechanism ever. Very few psychological disorders in 2021 have medical or surgical interventions. But this one, despite the condition not being very well understood is not only approved but there is huge pressure to expand these services as wide and early as possible. The APA has lost all credibility.

    And there are copious studies of trans individuals and personality disorders, cluster B keeps coming up. Think about it. Even if you had the impulse for it, would you? Knowing the social consequences for everyone. Would you? Parents give up a lot of happiness for their children, not dressing up like a woman when you want, even if you had the impulse would not be hard. Yet time and time again we see these married men with children, who even have quite good jobs imploding all of that. That belies something about their character. How many profiles of Sailer-type trans 'women' mention that as men they used to be assholes? Quite a few.

    https://twitter.com/DanGrossmanGA/status/1435207105355603977

    Here is a recent Western study.

    https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32120872/


    Eighty-seven participants (40 transgender women and 47 transgender men) completed the Personality Inventory for DSM-5 and the Structured Clinical Interview for DSM-IV Axis II personality disorders. Scores obtained were compared to those of the normative samples of cisgender women and men. Results indicated that transgender women scored lower than cisgender women on two main domains (Negative Affectivity and Psychoticism) and on seven facets. As for transgender men, lower scores than cisgender men were found on Antagonism and on five facets. Transgender men scored higher than cisgender men on Depressivity. Nearly 50% of participants showed at least one PD diagnosis, with no gender differences in prevalence. Borderline PD was the most frequent diagnosis in the overall sample.
     
    I also like how the abstract politely mentions that the trans more resemble their sex of origin psychologically.

    And the concentrations of people with certain personality disorders shows itself again in their activism, it's histrionic. And wokeness more generally has become histrionic. (Frequent threats that if they don't let their child transition they will surely commit suicide, doesn't sound like BPD at all...)

    Steve once wrote during the period where 'there are no girls on the internet' and Ron Paul was 'the internet's candidate' that to some extent libertarianism was just applied autism. I wonder if we mightn't be served well to start seeing wokeness as applied BPD. Today the power users of the internet are not guys with Asperger's, they've teenage girls with cluster B disorders. We're all obligated to live in the head of a 15 year old girl with daddy issues and so far it's nearly torn the Western world apart in just a few years.

    Replies: @Mercer, @Alec Leamas (hard at work), @Jim Christian, @Paperback Writer, @Anonymous, @Tony massey, @Badger Down

    “Where are all the adult women who are trans who never grew up in a time when it was accepted or celebrated?”

    They were called tomboys for the same behavior in the past.

    “married men with children, who even have quite good jobs imploding all of that. That belies something about their character.”

    In the past it would implode their career now it enhances it in many places. It will still likely wreck their family relationships but males damaging their family by indulging their sexual appetites is not new.

  23. @Altai
    There was also another recent documentary from the Swedish national broadcaster investigating the treatment of trans children in terms of hormone interventions for very young children just start puberty. They interview a Dutch doctor who pioneered the approach of using endocrine disruptors developed for adult cancer patients being used off-label to stall normal puberty in children. She insanely claims they don't have any effect and allow more time to think about what they want to do. No, they have less effect than if you were to put a child on a kind of simulated cross-sex puberty but stalling their natural puberty for even a few months is huge. You don't get back that development and you don't have a normal development with your peers.

    These drugs still haven't been properly clinically trialed for these purposes. They are being used off-label. The speed at which this happened is scary.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPNSWjjAzDk

    In Sweden and the UK public health authorities are much more accountable and take their job seriously.

    They interview one trans person a man in his 50s who thought going to work every day in drag was worth losing his job over. He seems very mild mannered and not histrionic at all. But look at the artwork behind him at 12:38...

    Replies: @Altai, @Mr. Anon, @Don Unf, @Nancy

    And sorry to triple post but that documentary is a kind of sequel to a previous one from the same show detailing the sudden spike in transgender cases in Sweden and the concentration of that increase among adolescent girls like it has everywhere. This is something that is very little known I find. You have to wonder about what kind of girls they are (Who ever heard of teenage girl BPDers who adoped a subculture and had identity issues?) and how much the online FtM communities mirror those for anorexia in the past.

    Having a new generation live so completely on social media means we see this sudden rapid weird aberrant socialisation phenomena. They are being raised and socialised in worlds the rest of us don’t live in or even perceive.

    • Thanks: Cortes, ic1000
  24. autistic schizo drug addict with HIV

    Hey, it’s a living!

    • Replies: @nebulafox
    @Ghost of Bull Moose

    Not for those who wish to define themselves on what they accomplished in spite of such things rather than as victims, I'm afraid. I can promise you: the vast majority of autistic schizoid drug addicts nevertheless have no desire to be effeminate, let alone outright female. Despite all the cultural conditioning, it shines through upon the slightest stress. Human nature can't be ignored.

    Also, the vast majority of "mentally ill" Millennials and Zoomers aren't. They are simply having a normal reaction to an abnormal life, coupled with the cultural messaging they've been given. They don't need pills, they need concrete life changes, both of their own efforts and from a surrounding society. (And the minority that actually do need medicine don't need *just* medicine.)

    Replies: @Ghost of Bull Moose

  25. You don’t say? Seems like some low hanging fruits.

  26. @Altai
    All the evidence I see is that this mass cohort of adolescent girls insisting they are male are just a subset of girls with BPD and an internet connection. One question I'd pose: Where are all the adult women who are trans who never grew up in a time when it was accepted or celebrated? Do they exist? Do 'trans' adolescent girls have a history of sexual abuse or particularly distorted perspectives of sex? It is common for conservative commentators and 'TERFs' to claim these girls would just have become lesbians ('The Dems are the real homophobes!") but the evidence I see from their own communities shows that ones who are sexually attracted to males are the majority now.

    https://www.reddit.com/r/ftm/search/?q=attracted%20to%20men&restrict_sr=1&sr_nsfw=

    At first the line was "I am a man trapped inside a women's body" (There was no line for FtMs because until a few years ago there were practically none of them, though, hilariously they've recently been starting drama online because existing trans 'spaces' were 'erasing' them because they were and had been so tiny in number until recently) because this was the line which would be most socially acceptable. You and the speaker weren't really supposed to believe it and it didn't matter since there were few trans people and they didn't make much of an impact.

    Now I've been seeing increasing numbers of them taking it literally. As in, they are biologically male or female. (Not, let's expand the definition to fit us in too but "I have always been biologically male/female" in a 1984 way.) And that's just delusional and the kind of thing you need to have your brain wired in a particular way to insist upon.

    Just for fun I typed 'trans personality disorder' into Twitter. The bulk of the posts give up by standard search (It won't show every post) have trans people proudly proclaiming their borderline personality disorder. Seriously, these people are all over social media, they aren't hiding.

    https://twitter.com/search?q=trans%20personality%20disorder&src=typed_query

    Like anorexia in the past, trans is attractive to borderlines. It is just the most insane maladaptive coping mechanism ever. Very few psychological disorders in 2021 have medical or surgical interventions. But this one, despite the condition not being very well understood is not only approved but there is huge pressure to expand these services as wide and early as possible. The APA has lost all credibility.

    And there are copious studies of trans individuals and personality disorders, cluster B keeps coming up. Think about it. Even if you had the impulse for it, would you? Knowing the social consequences for everyone. Would you? Parents give up a lot of happiness for their children, not dressing up like a woman when you want, even if you had the impulse would not be hard. Yet time and time again we see these married men with children, who even have quite good jobs imploding all of that. That belies something about their character. How many profiles of Sailer-type trans 'women' mention that as men they used to be assholes? Quite a few.

    https://twitter.com/DanGrossmanGA/status/1435207105355603977

    Here is a recent Western study.

    https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32120872/


    Eighty-seven participants (40 transgender women and 47 transgender men) completed the Personality Inventory for DSM-5 and the Structured Clinical Interview for DSM-IV Axis II personality disorders. Scores obtained were compared to those of the normative samples of cisgender women and men. Results indicated that transgender women scored lower than cisgender women on two main domains (Negative Affectivity and Psychoticism) and on seven facets. As for transgender men, lower scores than cisgender men were found on Antagonism and on five facets. Transgender men scored higher than cisgender men on Depressivity. Nearly 50% of participants showed at least one PD diagnosis, with no gender differences in prevalence. Borderline PD was the most frequent diagnosis in the overall sample.
     
    I also like how the abstract politely mentions that the trans more resemble their sex of origin psychologically.

    And the concentrations of people with certain personality disorders shows itself again in their activism, it's histrionic. And wokeness more generally has become histrionic. (Frequent threats that if they don't let their child transition they will surely commit suicide, doesn't sound like BPD at all...)

    Steve once wrote during the period where 'there are no girls on the internet' and Ron Paul was 'the internet's candidate' that to some extent libertarianism was just applied autism. I wonder if we mightn't be served well to start seeing wokeness as applied BPD. Today the power users of the internet are not guys with Asperger's, they've teenage girls with cluster B disorders. We're all obligated to live in the head of a 15 year old girl with daddy issues and so far it's nearly torn the Western world apart in just a few years.

    Replies: @Mercer, @Alec Leamas (hard at work), @Jim Christian, @Paperback Writer, @Anonymous, @Tony massey, @Badger Down

    Where are all the adult women who are trans who never grew up in a time when it was accepted or celebrated?

    There’s a lefty lesbian journalist (her name escapes me) who is chronicling the disappearance of lesbians as a subculture – the more femme lesbians are mainstreamed while the butch types are all becoming transsexual “men.” So there really aren’t any more lesbian bars and bookstores and what not.

    • Replies: @Skyler the Weird
    @Alec Leamas (hard at work)

    The Lesbians are back in the closet as the government will soon force them to date Bruce Jenner clone Male to Female non operative transgender 'lesbians'. It's a hate crime if they refuse.

  27. @Altai
    All the evidence I see is that this mass cohort of adolescent girls insisting they are male are just a subset of girls with BPD and an internet connection. One question I'd pose: Where are all the adult women who are trans who never grew up in a time when it was accepted or celebrated? Do they exist? Do 'trans' adolescent girls have a history of sexual abuse or particularly distorted perspectives of sex? It is common for conservative commentators and 'TERFs' to claim these girls would just have become lesbians ('The Dems are the real homophobes!") but the evidence I see from their own communities shows that ones who are sexually attracted to males are the majority now.

    https://www.reddit.com/r/ftm/search/?q=attracted%20to%20men&restrict_sr=1&sr_nsfw=

    At first the line was "I am a man trapped inside a women's body" (There was no line for FtMs because until a few years ago there were practically none of them, though, hilariously they've recently been starting drama online because existing trans 'spaces' were 'erasing' them because they were and had been so tiny in number until recently) because this was the line which would be most socially acceptable. You and the speaker weren't really supposed to believe it and it didn't matter since there were few trans people and they didn't make much of an impact.

    Now I've been seeing increasing numbers of them taking it literally. As in, they are biologically male or female. (Not, let's expand the definition to fit us in too but "I have always been biologically male/female" in a 1984 way.) And that's just delusional and the kind of thing you need to have your brain wired in a particular way to insist upon.

    Just for fun I typed 'trans personality disorder' into Twitter. The bulk of the posts give up by standard search (It won't show every post) have trans people proudly proclaiming their borderline personality disorder. Seriously, these people are all over social media, they aren't hiding.

    https://twitter.com/search?q=trans%20personality%20disorder&src=typed_query

    Like anorexia in the past, trans is attractive to borderlines. It is just the most insane maladaptive coping mechanism ever. Very few psychological disorders in 2021 have medical or surgical interventions. But this one, despite the condition not being very well understood is not only approved but there is huge pressure to expand these services as wide and early as possible. The APA has lost all credibility.

    And there are copious studies of trans individuals and personality disorders, cluster B keeps coming up. Think about it. Even if you had the impulse for it, would you? Knowing the social consequences for everyone. Would you? Parents give up a lot of happiness for their children, not dressing up like a woman when you want, even if you had the impulse would not be hard. Yet time and time again we see these married men with children, who even have quite good jobs imploding all of that. That belies something about their character. How many profiles of Sailer-type trans 'women' mention that as men they used to be assholes? Quite a few.

    https://twitter.com/DanGrossmanGA/status/1435207105355603977

    Here is a recent Western study.

    https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32120872/


    Eighty-seven participants (40 transgender women and 47 transgender men) completed the Personality Inventory for DSM-5 and the Structured Clinical Interview for DSM-IV Axis II personality disorders. Scores obtained were compared to those of the normative samples of cisgender women and men. Results indicated that transgender women scored lower than cisgender women on two main domains (Negative Affectivity and Psychoticism) and on seven facets. As for transgender men, lower scores than cisgender men were found on Antagonism and on five facets. Transgender men scored higher than cisgender men on Depressivity. Nearly 50% of participants showed at least one PD diagnosis, with no gender differences in prevalence. Borderline PD was the most frequent diagnosis in the overall sample.
     
    I also like how the abstract politely mentions that the trans more resemble their sex of origin psychologically.

    And the concentrations of people with certain personality disorders shows itself again in their activism, it's histrionic. And wokeness more generally has become histrionic. (Frequent threats that if they don't let their child transition they will surely commit suicide, doesn't sound like BPD at all...)

    Steve once wrote during the period where 'there are no girls on the internet' and Ron Paul was 'the internet's candidate' that to some extent libertarianism was just applied autism. I wonder if we mightn't be served well to start seeing wokeness as applied BPD. Today the power users of the internet are not guys with Asperger's, they've teenage girls with cluster B disorders. We're all obligated to live in the head of a 15 year old girl with daddy issues and so far it's nearly torn the Western world apart in just a few years.

    Replies: @Mercer, @Alec Leamas (hard at work), @Jim Christian, @Paperback Writer, @Anonymous, @Tony massey, @Badger Down

    Altai, he’ll of a write-up! So, did you determine racial balance in your studying on the subject? For no particular reason I cannot fathom black women falling into the trans-to-man insanity. I don’t know why perfectly privileged women changing into men, other than to grab tranny privilege. Also it would be interesting to know college educated vs. non college educated in the girl>man trannies. This seems like a higher education syndrome.

    Again, Altai, great read! Excellent work.

  28. @Anonymous
    Steve Sailer:

    "Transgenders Tend to Suffer Badly from Mental Illness, Autism, Drug Abuse, and HIV"

    Maybe the reason for that is the way that conservative society treats them historically, you know, like Human scum? Which in turn leads them to drug asbuse, etc.

    It's funny that right-wing conservatives like you mistreat and disenfranchise people for who they are, and then when they show disabilitiesa and lash out because of it, you blame them for it. I've never seen such callous disregard for other human beings like this.

    You want to talk about mental illness, so let's talk about mentall illness. I think right-wing conservatives suffer from the mental illness of psychopathy. That would explain how you can so utterly disregard the needs of a significant fraction of the population(gays, transgenders, ethnic minorities, etc). Discriminating people because of the color of their skin, something that they have no control over, or their sexual orientation, when having one's sexuality validated is essential for a person's emotional well-being. But you only validate the sexuality of people if it is for breeding.

    The other mental illness that right-wingers suffer from is psychosis. Being a right-winger correlates very strongly to gathering at a place and worshipping an imaginary being no one has ever seen and for which there is no evidence of it's existence.

    And the worst part is the cognitive and moral disonance. Because these right-wingers claim to follow the teachings of a man that told them to turn the other cheek, a man that embraced prostitutes and thieves, a man that told them that it's easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich person to get into God's kingdom, etc.

    Jesus: "Turn the other cheek." ----> Right-wing Christian conservatives: Bigggest supporters of capital punishment

    Jesus: "it's easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich person to get into God's kingdom." ---------> Right wing conservatives: biggest supporters of big business

    Jesus: "“If you want to be perfect, go and sell all your possessions and give the money to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven." Right-wing conservatives: huge supporters of private property and hate welfare for the poor.

    Jesus: Luke 7 36-50: Jesus embraces the prostitute that washes his feet with her tears and then dries them with her hair. Right-wing conservative Christians: are full of hatred for all"deviants", and just for anyone who is different from themselves in general, such as having a different skin color or even a different lifestyle.

    I love the moral disonance of right-wing conservatives who call themselves Christians. Jesus was a liberal, and would have despised you. Well, Jesus would not despise you because he was unable to despise anyone, but he certainly would not approve of your prejudiced, discriminatory view of the World which is extremely antithetical to hsi teachings. Christians? You guys are more along the Pharisees that crucified Jesus! *That* is who you are.

    So to recapitulate the mental illnesses of the Right: a tendency towards psychopathy as well as psychosis("The government is coming for my guns!" "Vaccines are a plan by Bill Gates f0r World control!", "9/11 was an inside job!"), absolute moral disonance, living lifestyles that are the extreme polar opposites of the teachings of the founder of the religion that they claim to follow("FK the poor! "Fry criminals in the electric chair", "I will shoot anyone that enters my propert!")

    Replies: @Daniel H, @Bardon Kaldian, @John Regan, @ic1000, @Kolya Krassotkin

    Maybe the reason for that is the way that conservative society treats them historically, you know, like Human scum? Which in turn leads them to drug asbuse, etc.

    There was no “history” to trannies until, what?, 10 years ago.

    • Replies: @Colinsky
    @Daniel H

    There was no “history” to trannies until, what?, 10 years ago.

    WWII veteran Christine Jorgensen became the first trainee in 1952.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    , @mc23
    @Daniel H

    Iv'e been reading Steves columns about what he labeled as "World War T" since 2014 or so. I thought it sounded crazy when he said this would be the next big distraction. Transexualism was a bridge too far.

    Less the eight years later and the world has gone crazy. I don't think too many people actually buy the Trannie nonsense. When does Irish Democracy sink in?

    Malignant transgenderism that forces people to recognize personal sexual identity over biology and science, is an existential evil.

    Replies: @Bill Jones

    , @Brutusale
    @Daniel H

    Back in the late 90s my girlfriend was giving hormone shots to proto-trans patients scheduled for facial femininization surgery. The young plastic surgeon who started the clinic was a savant, as he's now swimming in patients.

    https://www.drspiegel.com/facial-feminization-surgery-boston/

    Replies: @Cloudbuster

  29. @Bernard
    Those findings are truly shocking. However the most important question(s) we need to ask are (as always); how are we as a society to blame, what laws should be changed or enacted, and why we aren’t spending more on the problem?

    Replies: @jamie b.

    Exactly: the correct way to interpret this data is to reverse the causal arrow.

  30. @Mina Horowitz
    @Bill

    Drugs yes, and that's a cultural thing, but I'm not sure about crazy. Depression isn't crazy. I personally don't know any schizophrenic gay men and I know a lot of gay men. Easy dopamine hits via sex are so easy for gay men that I don't think most of them have a reason to go crazy.

    Replies: @Paperback Writer, @Bill

    Homosexuality is a way for these guys to keep it together. Even when they aren’t actively practicing. Their whole mindset is pretty screwed up. The best kind of homosexual is the Tim Gunn kind, smart, high strung, and as long as he can keep an equilibrium, he’s productive. I don’t think Gunn is the promiscuous type.

    Then there’s the Tennessee Williams type which is similar to Gunn but promiscuous. He couldn’t keep it together & he just drank himself to death – but at age 72, which is not bad. His muse deserted him and there was no reason to live.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Paperback Writer


    I don’t think Gunn is the promiscuous type.
     
    Except for one short, unfortunate affair in his youth, Gunn has been inactive all his life. This is probably why he seems saner than most of the others.

    Other instances of this, by their own account, are Andy Warhol and British comic actor Kenneth Williams. Those who have walked away include Milo Y. and Church Militant founder Michael Voris. Tom "Glad to Be Gay" Robinson is married, to a woman, and has two children with her. Whatever his "sexuality", he is as radical as ever.

    Replies: @Paperback Writer

  31. @Altai
    All the evidence I see is that this mass cohort of adolescent girls insisting they are male are just a subset of girls with BPD and an internet connection. One question I'd pose: Where are all the adult women who are trans who never grew up in a time when it was accepted or celebrated? Do they exist? Do 'trans' adolescent girls have a history of sexual abuse or particularly distorted perspectives of sex? It is common for conservative commentators and 'TERFs' to claim these girls would just have become lesbians ('The Dems are the real homophobes!") but the evidence I see from their own communities shows that ones who are sexually attracted to males are the majority now.

    https://www.reddit.com/r/ftm/search/?q=attracted%20to%20men&restrict_sr=1&sr_nsfw=

    At first the line was "I am a man trapped inside a women's body" (There was no line for FtMs because until a few years ago there were practically none of them, though, hilariously they've recently been starting drama online because existing trans 'spaces' were 'erasing' them because they were and had been so tiny in number until recently) because this was the line which would be most socially acceptable. You and the speaker weren't really supposed to believe it and it didn't matter since there were few trans people and they didn't make much of an impact.

    Now I've been seeing increasing numbers of them taking it literally. As in, they are biologically male or female. (Not, let's expand the definition to fit us in too but "I have always been biologically male/female" in a 1984 way.) And that's just delusional and the kind of thing you need to have your brain wired in a particular way to insist upon.

    Just for fun I typed 'trans personality disorder' into Twitter. The bulk of the posts give up by standard search (It won't show every post) have trans people proudly proclaiming their borderline personality disorder. Seriously, these people are all over social media, they aren't hiding.

    https://twitter.com/search?q=trans%20personality%20disorder&src=typed_query

    Like anorexia in the past, trans is attractive to borderlines. It is just the most insane maladaptive coping mechanism ever. Very few psychological disorders in 2021 have medical or surgical interventions. But this one, despite the condition not being very well understood is not only approved but there is huge pressure to expand these services as wide and early as possible. The APA has lost all credibility.

    And there are copious studies of trans individuals and personality disorders, cluster B keeps coming up. Think about it. Even if you had the impulse for it, would you? Knowing the social consequences for everyone. Would you? Parents give up a lot of happiness for their children, not dressing up like a woman when you want, even if you had the impulse would not be hard. Yet time and time again we see these married men with children, who even have quite good jobs imploding all of that. That belies something about their character. How many profiles of Sailer-type trans 'women' mention that as men they used to be assholes? Quite a few.

    https://twitter.com/DanGrossmanGA/status/1435207105355603977

    Here is a recent Western study.

    https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32120872/


    Eighty-seven participants (40 transgender women and 47 transgender men) completed the Personality Inventory for DSM-5 and the Structured Clinical Interview for DSM-IV Axis II personality disorders. Scores obtained were compared to those of the normative samples of cisgender women and men. Results indicated that transgender women scored lower than cisgender women on two main domains (Negative Affectivity and Psychoticism) and on seven facets. As for transgender men, lower scores than cisgender men were found on Antagonism and on five facets. Transgender men scored higher than cisgender men on Depressivity. Nearly 50% of participants showed at least one PD diagnosis, with no gender differences in prevalence. Borderline PD was the most frequent diagnosis in the overall sample.
     
    I also like how the abstract politely mentions that the trans more resemble their sex of origin psychologically.

    And the concentrations of people with certain personality disorders shows itself again in their activism, it's histrionic. And wokeness more generally has become histrionic. (Frequent threats that if they don't let their child transition they will surely commit suicide, doesn't sound like BPD at all...)

    Steve once wrote during the period where 'there are no girls on the internet' and Ron Paul was 'the internet's candidate' that to some extent libertarianism was just applied autism. I wonder if we mightn't be served well to start seeing wokeness as applied BPD. Today the power users of the internet are not guys with Asperger's, they've teenage girls with cluster B disorders. We're all obligated to live in the head of a 15 year old girl with daddy issues and so far it's nearly torn the Western world apart in just a few years.

    Replies: @Mercer, @Alec Leamas (hard at work), @Jim Christian, @Paperback Writer, @Anonymous, @Tony massey, @Badger Down

    Where are all the adult women who are trans who never grew up in a time when it was accepted or celebrated? Do they exist?

    Very few. I think most are butch lesbians. There’s one, Pat Califia, who was a big butch lesbian type from San Francisco. I spent some time in Berkeley in the mid-70s and remember her. She’s a FtM now.

    When I was a kid we felt sorry for lesbians. Then they became cool and chic. Now it’s back to pitiable. They are like the last tribesman on a dying reservation. The last of their kind. Those who haven’t “transitioned” are angry as hell and feel twice deserted.

    • Replies: @Bill Jones
    @Paperback Writer


    Those who haven’t “transitioned” are angry as hell and feel twice deserted.
     
    In the UK they are taking that anger out on others.

    http://www.informationliberation.com/?id=62742
  32. Anonymous[400] • Disclaimer says:
    @Altai
    All the evidence I see is that this mass cohort of adolescent girls insisting they are male are just a subset of girls with BPD and an internet connection. One question I'd pose: Where are all the adult women who are trans who never grew up in a time when it was accepted or celebrated? Do they exist? Do 'trans' adolescent girls have a history of sexual abuse or particularly distorted perspectives of sex? It is common for conservative commentators and 'TERFs' to claim these girls would just have become lesbians ('The Dems are the real homophobes!") but the evidence I see from their own communities shows that ones who are sexually attracted to males are the majority now.

    https://www.reddit.com/r/ftm/search/?q=attracted%20to%20men&restrict_sr=1&sr_nsfw=

    At first the line was "I am a man trapped inside a women's body" (There was no line for FtMs because until a few years ago there were practically none of them, though, hilariously they've recently been starting drama online because existing trans 'spaces' were 'erasing' them because they were and had been so tiny in number until recently) because this was the line which would be most socially acceptable. You and the speaker weren't really supposed to believe it and it didn't matter since there were few trans people and they didn't make much of an impact.

    Now I've been seeing increasing numbers of them taking it literally. As in, they are biologically male or female. (Not, let's expand the definition to fit us in too but "I have always been biologically male/female" in a 1984 way.) And that's just delusional and the kind of thing you need to have your brain wired in a particular way to insist upon.

    Just for fun I typed 'trans personality disorder' into Twitter. The bulk of the posts give up by standard search (It won't show every post) have trans people proudly proclaiming their borderline personality disorder. Seriously, these people are all over social media, they aren't hiding.

    https://twitter.com/search?q=trans%20personality%20disorder&src=typed_query

    Like anorexia in the past, trans is attractive to borderlines. It is just the most insane maladaptive coping mechanism ever. Very few psychological disorders in 2021 have medical or surgical interventions. But this one, despite the condition not being very well understood is not only approved but there is huge pressure to expand these services as wide and early as possible. The APA has lost all credibility.

    And there are copious studies of trans individuals and personality disorders, cluster B keeps coming up. Think about it. Even if you had the impulse for it, would you? Knowing the social consequences for everyone. Would you? Parents give up a lot of happiness for their children, not dressing up like a woman when you want, even if you had the impulse would not be hard. Yet time and time again we see these married men with children, who even have quite good jobs imploding all of that. That belies something about their character. How many profiles of Sailer-type trans 'women' mention that as men they used to be assholes? Quite a few.

    https://twitter.com/DanGrossmanGA/status/1435207105355603977

    Here is a recent Western study.

    https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32120872/


    Eighty-seven participants (40 transgender women and 47 transgender men) completed the Personality Inventory for DSM-5 and the Structured Clinical Interview for DSM-IV Axis II personality disorders. Scores obtained were compared to those of the normative samples of cisgender women and men. Results indicated that transgender women scored lower than cisgender women on two main domains (Negative Affectivity and Psychoticism) and on seven facets. As for transgender men, lower scores than cisgender men were found on Antagonism and on five facets. Transgender men scored higher than cisgender men on Depressivity. Nearly 50% of participants showed at least one PD diagnosis, with no gender differences in prevalence. Borderline PD was the most frequent diagnosis in the overall sample.
     
    I also like how the abstract politely mentions that the trans more resemble their sex of origin psychologically.

    And the concentrations of people with certain personality disorders shows itself again in their activism, it's histrionic. And wokeness more generally has become histrionic. (Frequent threats that if they don't let their child transition they will surely commit suicide, doesn't sound like BPD at all...)

    Steve once wrote during the period where 'there are no girls on the internet' and Ron Paul was 'the internet's candidate' that to some extent libertarianism was just applied autism. I wonder if we mightn't be served well to start seeing wokeness as applied BPD. Today the power users of the internet are not guys with Asperger's, they've teenage girls with cluster B disorders. We're all obligated to live in the head of a 15 year old girl with daddy issues and so far it's nearly torn the Western world apart in just a few years.

    Replies: @Mercer, @Alec Leamas (hard at work), @Jim Christian, @Paperback Writer, @Anonymous, @Tony massey, @Badger Down

    It is common for conservative commentators and ‘TERFs’ to claim these girls would just have become lesbians (‘The Dems are the real homophobes!”) but the evidence I see from their own communities shows that ones who are sexually attracted to males are the majority now.

    1) Female puberty sucks.

    2) The ubiquity of hardcore porn. Doesn’t mix well with female puberty.

    3) Slash and yaoi. For some of them, it’s a fetish. A far cry from the sissy hypno porn that starts so many men on the trans path, or even from classic old-school autogynephiles, but still a fetish of sorts. They want to be one of the cute gay guys they romanticize and get off to.

    4) And, of course, social contagion.

    Speaking of autogynephilic “lesbians”, my impression is that 15 years ago or so they were mostly highly intelligent and usually quite successful. Now every basement-dwelling, pony-loving weaboo loser is discovering their womanhood.

    Another pathology very common among trans “women” is pedophilia. Charming folx.

    • Replies: @njguy73
    @Anonymous

    Pop star Billie Eilish, who as of this post will turn 20 tomorrow, recently said that she started watching internet porn at age 11 and that it "destroyed [her] brain" and left her "incredibly devastated."

    I can see this leading to more young people making similar statements.

    https://www.cnn.com/2021/12/15/entertainment/billie-eilish-porn-scli-intl/index.html

    Replies: @Mina Horowitz, @Cloudbuster

  33. Transgenders Tend to Suffer Badly from Mental Illness

    If ever there was a time when the phase “No shit, Sherlock” was an appropriate response… this is it.

  34. @Pheasant
    As an autistic person I disown transgenders.

    Replies: @Tony massey

    What’s that been like?

  35. @JohnnyWalker123
    https://twitter.com/jaketapper/status/1471879765590171654

    Replies: @Ghost of Bull Moose, @Prester John

    Trump only makes them crazy when he says what’s true.

    • Agree: Wade Hampton
  36. @Anonymous
    Steve Sailer:

    "Transgenders Tend to Suffer Badly from Mental Illness, Autism, Drug Abuse, and HIV"

    Maybe the reason for that is the way that conservative society treats them historically, you know, like Human scum? Which in turn leads them to drug asbuse, etc.

    It's funny that right-wing conservatives like you mistreat and disenfranchise people for who they are, and then when they show disabilitiesa and lash out because of it, you blame them for it. I've never seen such callous disregard for other human beings like this.

    You want to talk about mental illness, so let's talk about mentall illness. I think right-wing conservatives suffer from the mental illness of psychopathy. That would explain how you can so utterly disregard the needs of a significant fraction of the population(gays, transgenders, ethnic minorities, etc). Discriminating people because of the color of their skin, something that they have no control over, or their sexual orientation, when having one's sexuality validated is essential for a person's emotional well-being. But you only validate the sexuality of people if it is for breeding.

    The other mental illness that right-wingers suffer from is psychosis. Being a right-winger correlates very strongly to gathering at a place and worshipping an imaginary being no one has ever seen and for which there is no evidence of it's existence.

    And the worst part is the cognitive and moral disonance. Because these right-wingers claim to follow the teachings of a man that told them to turn the other cheek, a man that embraced prostitutes and thieves, a man that told them that it's easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich person to get into God's kingdom, etc.

    Jesus: "Turn the other cheek." ----> Right-wing Christian conservatives: Bigggest supporters of capital punishment

    Jesus: "it's easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich person to get into God's kingdom." ---------> Right wing conservatives: biggest supporters of big business

    Jesus: "“If you want to be perfect, go and sell all your possessions and give the money to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven." Right-wing conservatives: huge supporters of private property and hate welfare for the poor.

    Jesus: Luke 7 36-50: Jesus embraces the prostitute that washes his feet with her tears and then dries them with her hair. Right-wing conservative Christians: are full of hatred for all"deviants", and just for anyone who is different from themselves in general, such as having a different skin color or even a different lifestyle.

    I love the moral disonance of right-wing conservatives who call themselves Christians. Jesus was a liberal, and would have despised you. Well, Jesus would not despise you because he was unable to despise anyone, but he certainly would not approve of your prejudiced, discriminatory view of the World which is extremely antithetical to hsi teachings. Christians? You guys are more along the Pharisees that crucified Jesus! *That* is who you are.

    So to recapitulate the mental illnesses of the Right: a tendency towards psychopathy as well as psychosis("The government is coming for my guns!" "Vaccines are a plan by Bill Gates f0r World control!", "9/11 was an inside job!"), absolute moral disonance, living lifestyles that are the extreme polar opposites of the teachings of the founder of the religion that they claim to follow("FK the poor! "Fry criminals in the electric chair", "I will shoot anyone that enters my propert!")

    Replies: @Daniel H, @Bardon Kaldian, @John Regan, @ic1000, @Kolya Krassotkin

    Hate to break it to you, but because I’m not a Christian & have a long-standing sympathy for transgenders & other mental sufferers ….

    Jesus was, as he is presented in Gospels, a multidimensional & contradictory man (or God-Man, if you wish). Popular, new-Agey image is of someone who is essentially a pacifist, humanist & the prophet of universal Love for all – basically a Galilean hippy.

    This is a distorted image. Jesus from the Gospels was also an apocalyptic revolutionary, a terrifying figure who, rightly, inspired awe & fear in his medieval followers .. One should only look at his great apocalyptic speeches:

    I am come to send fire on the earth; and what will I, if it be already kindled?

    For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.

    Not everyone who says to me [Jesus], ‘Lord, Lord!’ shall enter the Kingdom of God. On the Last Day many will say, ‘Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and did we not cast out demons, and did we not perform many wonderful miracles in your name?’ But I will tell them drily, ‘I never knew you. Depart from me, you who are cursed.’

    Then, putting it all in the historical context: Jesus lived in a world without medicine- Hellenistic Jews learned medicine from Greeks, but he lived his life among people whose only healthy practices were obeying their religious hygienic rules, given by their god. Otherwise, all other maladies, and especially psychological, were treated as in Babylonia – demons all around us & raving psychotics roaming the streets.

    Any reasonable person, and especially Christian, should treat these people with compassion & respect. But, being compassionate doesn’t mean you’re a brain-dead looney.

    And that means a serious study of the phenomenon of transgenderism, both MtF and FtM, see where they overlap & where they differ, and to see how one can help these people to become normal, or at least less unhappy.

    Which is, one should admit, frequently an impossible task. Some human lives are, simply- doomed.

  37. Herox is very good, Steve. You should trademark it.

    2) Here is a very good Jordan Peterson interview of Abigail Shrier who wrote a book on the explosion of “I’m a tranny” among teenage girls.

    https://www.jordanbpeterson.com/podcast/s4-e11-abigail-shrier/

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Jim Don Bob


    Herox is very good, Steve. You should trademark it.
     
    It should be heroex, though.


    Besides, herox is too close to "he-rocks". He is now they, and whether they still has their rocks is one of those questions you are not supposed to ask.

    It's the hair (-touching) trigger of trannydom.


    Don't be fooled by look-alikes:


    https://i0.wp.com/www.brandlandusa.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/hydrox_vintage-1.jpg

    Replies: @Joe Stalin

  38. @JimDandy
    The problem is, once they kick the drugs, then they have to comprehend the fact that they had their genitals permanently removed/mangled. It's a vicious circle.

    Replies: @al gore rhythms, @Mike Tre, @Kolya Krassotkin

    So just get a sex change back. After all, a man without a dick is still going to be better at pretending to be a man with a dick than he is pretending to be a woman with a vagina.

    Do you think post-op trannies ever get phantom limb syndrome from their missing penises?

    • Replies: @JimDandy
    @al gore rhythms

    I never thought about it, but now I will. I hate you.

  39. @Anonymous
    Steve Sailer:

    "Transgenders Tend to Suffer Badly from Mental Illness, Autism, Drug Abuse, and HIV"

    Maybe the reason for that is the way that conservative society treats them historically, you know, like Human scum? Which in turn leads them to drug asbuse, etc.

    It's funny that right-wing conservatives like you mistreat and disenfranchise people for who they are, and then when they show disabilitiesa and lash out because of it, you blame them for it. I've never seen such callous disregard for other human beings like this.

    You want to talk about mental illness, so let's talk about mentall illness. I think right-wing conservatives suffer from the mental illness of psychopathy. That would explain how you can so utterly disregard the needs of a significant fraction of the population(gays, transgenders, ethnic minorities, etc). Discriminating people because of the color of their skin, something that they have no control over, or their sexual orientation, when having one's sexuality validated is essential for a person's emotional well-being. But you only validate the sexuality of people if it is for breeding.

    The other mental illness that right-wingers suffer from is psychosis. Being a right-winger correlates very strongly to gathering at a place and worshipping an imaginary being no one has ever seen and for which there is no evidence of it's existence.

    And the worst part is the cognitive and moral disonance. Because these right-wingers claim to follow the teachings of a man that told them to turn the other cheek, a man that embraced prostitutes and thieves, a man that told them that it's easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich person to get into God's kingdom, etc.

    Jesus: "Turn the other cheek." ----> Right-wing Christian conservatives: Bigggest supporters of capital punishment

    Jesus: "it's easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich person to get into God's kingdom." ---------> Right wing conservatives: biggest supporters of big business

    Jesus: "“If you want to be perfect, go and sell all your possessions and give the money to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven." Right-wing conservatives: huge supporters of private property and hate welfare for the poor.

    Jesus: Luke 7 36-50: Jesus embraces the prostitute that washes his feet with her tears and then dries them with her hair. Right-wing conservative Christians: are full of hatred for all"deviants", and just for anyone who is different from themselves in general, such as having a different skin color or even a different lifestyle.

    I love the moral disonance of right-wing conservatives who call themselves Christians. Jesus was a liberal, and would have despised you. Well, Jesus would not despise you because he was unable to despise anyone, but he certainly would not approve of your prejudiced, discriminatory view of the World which is extremely antithetical to hsi teachings. Christians? You guys are more along the Pharisees that crucified Jesus! *That* is who you are.

    So to recapitulate the mental illnesses of the Right: a tendency towards psychopathy as well as psychosis("The government is coming for my guns!" "Vaccines are a plan by Bill Gates f0r World control!", "9/11 was an inside job!"), absolute moral disonance, living lifestyles that are the extreme polar opposites of the teachings of the founder of the religion that they claim to follow("FK the poor! "Fry criminals in the electric chair", "I will shoot anyone that enters my propert!")

    Replies: @Daniel H, @Bardon Kaldian, @John Regan, @ic1000, @Kolya Krassotkin

    You guys are more along the Pharisees that crucified Jesus!

    This line shows that this is a troll and not a real leftist.

    Every real leftist knows it’s antisemitic to accuse the Pharisees of crucifying Jesus Christ.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nostra_aetate

    • LOL: J.Ross
  40. @Stogumber
    I'd suppose that a lot of people identifying now as "transgender" are the classical male-to-male prostitutes. This would explain the frequency of hepatitis and HIV. Also perhaps the drug abuse which is afaik higher with poor prostitutes, making their lifestyle more tolerable.

    Replies: @Muggles

    Yes, you are discussing transvestism, which is separate (or should be) from “transgender.”

    Superficial sex identity (a/k/a “gender”) can be done via clothing, hairstyles, makeup and behavior affectations.

    To “identify” like this is merely acting. Most transvestites are biological males and most only do this part time in gay habitats. A few are non gay males. Historically there are females who do this but it harder for them since women have different body characteristics.

    So yes, as others note, butch lesbians can resemble men as transvestites.

    What we see now in the Woke mental cancer is the blurring or ignoring the distinction between transvestism (dress, affectations) and biological alterations. Subtraction and attempts at replication of biological parts in some cases. Subtraction is fairly “easy” while addition is not.

    Since most “transgenders” are actually just extreme dressing gay males, the social diseases and pathology of promiscuous gay males will be also present in these people.

    My hunch is that more than half of the new “transgenders” are just acting. If they wish to do so, fine with me, as long as they are adults, not children.

    The common sense rule on that is, if you are old enough to have legal sex with another adult, you should be allowed to add/subtract, so long as you are of “sound mind.” What is removed can’t be returned, it is a far more serious commitment.

    This “wave” of transgenderism will disappear at the next large scale social crisis (war, depression, invasion, etc.)

    Toleration is not approval. Enforced assimilation isn’t toleration.

    • Replies: @Paul Mendez
    @Muggles


    This “wave” of transgenderism will disappear at the next large scale social crisis (war, depression, invasion, etc.)
     
    So you’re saying it’s got a year or so to go?
  41. Trannies are the logical dead end of consumerism: a person imprisoned in a cartoon of individuality, who must buy serious quantities of powerful pharmaceuticals, medical services and cosmetics for their whole lives.

  42. @Paperback Writer
    O/T, but relevant to issue of mental illness. This is unbelievable.

    https://twitter.com/SumZeroX/status/1471871537561092101?s=20

    Replies: @Mina Horowitz, @Dmon, @J.Ross, @Art Deco, @Ripple Earthdevil, @Wade Hampton

    TRULY — THE ARISTOCRATS — OF DIEVERSITY!!

  43. If scientists developed a drug which could change the brains of trans people so that their minds accorded with their birth-bodies, what would be the mainstream, CNN take on this? Would this be a terrible crime, like Christian parents taking their kid to a gay conversion camp, or would it seem like you were saying that their condition was a mental illness like schizophrenia that could be treated with medication, and therefore wrong because you are ‘calling them crazy’….or would it in fact be OK?

    But then why would it be more moral to consider changing the body and NOT the brain? Would it be because by changing the body we can continue to believe that this is an issue of ‘free will’ and the primacy of the mind? If so, isn’t this ridiculous when it would be the case that these parts of the mind were not ‘willed’ by the individual in the first place?

    • Replies: @Wilkey
    @al gore rhythms

    The irony being that conversion therapy, which is little more than cognitive, “talk” therapy, has been outlawed in many countries - including just recently in Canada - even for consenting adults.

    But mutilating the genitals of physically healthy human beings, completely blocking puberty in children, and stuffing their bodies with hormones meant for members of the opposite sex? That’s not only acceptable, but mandatory.

  44. @Altai
    All the evidence I see is that this mass cohort of adolescent girls insisting they are male are just a subset of girls with BPD and an internet connection. One question I'd pose: Where are all the adult women who are trans who never grew up in a time when it was accepted or celebrated? Do they exist? Do 'trans' adolescent girls have a history of sexual abuse or particularly distorted perspectives of sex? It is common for conservative commentators and 'TERFs' to claim these girls would just have become lesbians ('The Dems are the real homophobes!") but the evidence I see from their own communities shows that ones who are sexually attracted to males are the majority now.

    https://www.reddit.com/r/ftm/search/?q=attracted%20to%20men&restrict_sr=1&sr_nsfw=

    At first the line was "I am a man trapped inside a women's body" (There was no line for FtMs because until a few years ago there were practically none of them, though, hilariously they've recently been starting drama online because existing trans 'spaces' were 'erasing' them because they were and had been so tiny in number until recently) because this was the line which would be most socially acceptable. You and the speaker weren't really supposed to believe it and it didn't matter since there were few trans people and they didn't make much of an impact.

    Now I've been seeing increasing numbers of them taking it literally. As in, they are biologically male or female. (Not, let's expand the definition to fit us in too but "I have always been biologically male/female" in a 1984 way.) And that's just delusional and the kind of thing you need to have your brain wired in a particular way to insist upon.

    Just for fun I typed 'trans personality disorder' into Twitter. The bulk of the posts give up by standard search (It won't show every post) have trans people proudly proclaiming their borderline personality disorder. Seriously, these people are all over social media, they aren't hiding.

    https://twitter.com/search?q=trans%20personality%20disorder&src=typed_query

    Like anorexia in the past, trans is attractive to borderlines. It is just the most insane maladaptive coping mechanism ever. Very few psychological disorders in 2021 have medical or surgical interventions. But this one, despite the condition not being very well understood is not only approved but there is huge pressure to expand these services as wide and early as possible. The APA has lost all credibility.

    And there are copious studies of trans individuals and personality disorders, cluster B keeps coming up. Think about it. Even if you had the impulse for it, would you? Knowing the social consequences for everyone. Would you? Parents give up a lot of happiness for their children, not dressing up like a woman when you want, even if you had the impulse would not be hard. Yet time and time again we see these married men with children, who even have quite good jobs imploding all of that. That belies something about their character. How many profiles of Sailer-type trans 'women' mention that as men they used to be assholes? Quite a few.

    https://twitter.com/DanGrossmanGA/status/1435207105355603977

    Here is a recent Western study.

    https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32120872/


    Eighty-seven participants (40 transgender women and 47 transgender men) completed the Personality Inventory for DSM-5 and the Structured Clinical Interview for DSM-IV Axis II personality disorders. Scores obtained were compared to those of the normative samples of cisgender women and men. Results indicated that transgender women scored lower than cisgender women on two main domains (Negative Affectivity and Psychoticism) and on seven facets. As for transgender men, lower scores than cisgender men were found on Antagonism and on five facets. Transgender men scored higher than cisgender men on Depressivity. Nearly 50% of participants showed at least one PD diagnosis, with no gender differences in prevalence. Borderline PD was the most frequent diagnosis in the overall sample.
     
    I also like how the abstract politely mentions that the trans more resemble their sex of origin psychologically.

    And the concentrations of people with certain personality disorders shows itself again in their activism, it's histrionic. And wokeness more generally has become histrionic. (Frequent threats that if they don't let their child transition they will surely commit suicide, doesn't sound like BPD at all...)

    Steve once wrote during the period where 'there are no girls on the internet' and Ron Paul was 'the internet's candidate' that to some extent libertarianism was just applied autism. I wonder if we mightn't be served well to start seeing wokeness as applied BPD. Today the power users of the internet are not guys with Asperger's, they've teenage girls with cluster B disorders. We're all obligated to live in the head of a 15 year old girl with daddy issues and so far it's nearly torn the Western world apart in just a few years.

    Replies: @Mercer, @Alec Leamas (hard at work), @Jim Christian, @Paperback Writer, @Anonymous, @Tony massey, @Badger Down

    Altai tanks for the post. That really gives me a much better overstanding than i have had because i haven’t really bothered. I don’t know if this comment isn’t the best I’ve ever read on the intetwebs. I can’t believe their was nothing about the fucking joooooos.

    [MORE]

    I also like how the abstract politely mentions that the trans more resemble their sex of origin psychologically.

    That’s interesting I’ll say. In my own little world (i get around not on a no-fly list yet) over the past 6-7 years i have been running into trans people.
    I tell them apart by looking at their hairy knuckles and Adams apple(that means she ain’t no fucking she dude) and so far as I’m aware I’ve only had 3 encounters with the reverse of that and i gotta say it couldn’t look faker if you died cotton balls black and with Elmer fucking horse glue well glued them on because that’s what their beard looks like. And they have really really sissy like fingers that only a real true twink has. And those are the dudes.
    I’m upto about my 12th tranny. Nearly all dudes I’ve met uo with. I have only really spoken to one for just a few and i got a very strong impressions of a deeply sad and unhappy person that was reaching out for any kindness. They also carried a butcher knife and i do believe they were best left alone.
    Also, i hate a fucking word Nazi(ironically I’m indifferent about real Nazi) but you misspelled “moar”.
    This was accepted jargonynomenclature on zer0 hedge years and years ago where i was trolling those aholes moar than a decade ago…sigh…zer0 went to pot after fonestar gavem hell for so long i just know fonestar is out there somewhere envisioning the future and being right all the while shaming fools and I’m certain you’ll find I’m right if you just ax around that moar is the moar acceptable term in these interesting times we find ourselves.
    Good luck. 👌

  45. 5068848

    oops never mind! – I had another source of data that shows about 38% in cis population – the chart with this post shows equal rates – interesting – but makes my comment incorrect in some sense. – delete if possible

  46. “transgenders” are, by definition, suffering from mental illness.

    • Agree: acementhead
  47. @Paperback Writer
    O/T, but relevant to issue of mental illness. This is unbelievable.

    https://twitter.com/SumZeroX/status/1471871537561092101?s=20

    Replies: @Mina Horowitz, @Dmon, @J.Ross, @Art Deco, @Ripple Earthdevil, @Wade Hampton

    Where is the evidence that he was addled by schizophrenoform disorders or some species of dementia?. This man was ill only in the metaphoric sense.

    Cannot locate a picture of the wife, but one of the gf is available. Passably easy on the eyes. She was pregnant and he evidently sired two children by the estranged wife in recent years. Not understanding what they saw in him.

    • Replies: @Gabe Ruth
    @Art Deco

    Can’t fathom how you are surprised by this guy being a chick magnet. Do you have Whiskey blocked or something?

  48. I don’t personally know any transgenders, but the people I know who have transgenders in their family tend to be exceptionally weird. At least one, still a child, is in a family where both parents are in prison – the mother for sexual abuse.

  49. @JimDandy
    The problem is, once they kick the drugs, then they have to comprehend the fact that they had their genitals permanently removed/mangled. It's a vicious circle.

    Replies: @al gore rhythms, @Mike Tre, @Kolya Krassotkin

    “hen they have to comprehend the fact that they had their genitals permanently removed/mangled. It’s a vicious circle.”

    Indeed. They have drugs to treat that too.

  50. @Paperback Writer
    O/T, but relevant to issue of mental illness. This is unbelievable.

    https://twitter.com/SumZeroX/status/1471871537561092101?s=20

    Replies: @Mina Horowitz, @Dmon, @J.Ross, @Art Deco, @Ripple Earthdevil, @Wade Hampton

    A good friend worked with the ex-gf at one of the major hospitals here in the East Bay. Needless to say she’s pretty shook up as are her co-workers who knew her. She was Filipina.

    • Replies: @Paperback Writer
    @Ripple Earthdevil

    Thanks. With a few exceptions, the commenters here are gold.

    Silly Filipina married to that creep.

  51. @Art Deco
    If they're Medicare beneficiaries they're old or disabled or have failing kidneys. For what sorts of things were they declared disabled?

    Replies: @Paul Mendez

    Medicaid eligibility is based on income and family size. In some states, all adults below a certain income level are covered.

    • Replies: @Art Deco
    @Paul Mendez

    It specifically says 'Medicare' on his post.

    Replies: @Paul Mendez

  52. @Paperback Writer
    @Altai


    Where are all the adult women who are trans who never grew up in a time when it was accepted or celebrated? Do they exist?
     
    Very few. I think most are butch lesbians. There's one, Pat Califia, who was a big butch lesbian type from San Francisco. I spent some time in Berkeley in the mid-70s and remember her. She's a FtM now.

    When I was a kid we felt sorry for lesbians. Then they became cool and chic. Now it's back to pitiable. They are like the last tribesman on a dying reservation. The last of their kind. Those who haven't "transitioned" are angry as hell and feel twice deserted.

    Replies: @Bill Jones

    Those who haven’t “transitioned” are angry as hell and feel twice deserted.

    In the UK they are taking that anger out on others.

    http://www.informationliberation.com/?id=62742

  53. @Muggles
    @Stogumber

    Yes, you are discussing transvestism, which is separate (or should be) from "transgender."

    Superficial sex identity (a/k/a "gender") can be done via clothing, hairstyles, makeup and behavior affectations.

    To "identify" like this is merely acting. Most transvestites are biological males and most only do this part time in gay habitats. A few are non gay males. Historically there are females who do this but it harder for them since women have different body characteristics.

    So yes, as others note, butch lesbians can resemble men as transvestites.

    What we see now in the Woke mental cancer is the blurring or ignoring the distinction between transvestism (dress, affectations) and biological alterations. Subtraction and attempts at replication of biological parts in some cases. Subtraction is fairly "easy" while addition is not.

    Since most "transgenders" are actually just extreme dressing gay males, the social diseases and pathology of promiscuous gay males will be also present in these people.

    My hunch is that more than half of the new "transgenders" are just acting. If they wish to do so, fine with me, as long as they are adults, not children.

    The common sense rule on that is, if you are old enough to have legal sex with another adult, you should be allowed to add/subtract, so long as you are of "sound mind." What is removed can't be returned, it is a far more serious commitment.

    This "wave" of transgenderism will disappear at the next large scale social crisis (war, depression, invasion, etc.)

    Toleration is not approval. Enforced assimilation isn't toleration.

    Replies: @Paul Mendez

    This “wave” of transgenderism will disappear at the next large scale social crisis (war, depression, invasion, etc.)

    So you’re saying it’s got a year or so to go?

  54. Parent Says Daughter Was ‘Coached’ on LGBTQ Identity at California School

    https://archive.md/ErxLR#selection-1261.0-1261.73

    The mother speaks before the school board

    Materials they use:

    • Replies: @BB753
    @jill

    Teachers are one of the vilest group of people out there. Doing evil for the sake of evil mindlessly.

  55. @Ghost of Bull Moose

    autistic schizo drug addict with HIV
     
    Hey, it's a living!

    Replies: @nebulafox

    Not for those who wish to define themselves on what they accomplished in spite of such things rather than as victims, I’m afraid. I can promise you: the vast majority of autistic schizoid drug addicts nevertheless have no desire to be effeminate, let alone outright female. Despite all the cultural conditioning, it shines through upon the slightest stress. Human nature can’t be ignored.

    Also, the vast majority of “mentally ill” Millennials and Zoomers aren’t. They are simply having a normal reaction to an abnormal life, coupled with the cultural messaging they’ve been given. They don’t need pills, they need concrete life changes, both of their own efforts and from a surrounding society. (And the minority that actually do need medicine don’t need *just* medicine.)

    • Replies: @Ghost of Bull Moose
    @nebulafox

    Definitely agree with most of that. Mental illness certainly has a nature/nurture component.

  56. @Altai
    There was also another recent documentary from the Swedish national broadcaster investigating the treatment of trans children in terms of hormone interventions for very young children just start puberty. They interview a Dutch doctor who pioneered the approach of using endocrine disruptors developed for adult cancer patients being used off-label to stall normal puberty in children. She insanely claims they don't have any effect and allow more time to think about what they want to do. No, they have less effect than if you were to put a child on a kind of simulated cross-sex puberty but stalling their natural puberty for even a few months is huge. You don't get back that development and you don't have a normal development with your peers.

    These drugs still haven't been properly clinically trialed for these purposes. They are being used off-label. The speed at which this happened is scary.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPNSWjjAzDk

    In Sweden and the UK public health authorities are much more accountable and take their job seriously.

    They interview one trans person a man in his 50s who thought going to work every day in drag was worth losing his job over. He seems very mild mannered and not histrionic at all. But look at the artwork behind him at 12:38...

    Replies: @Altai, @Mr. Anon, @Don Unf, @Nancy

    These drugs still haven’t been properly clinically trialed for these purposes. They are being used off-label. The speed at which this happened is scary.

    Using endocrine disruptors off-label to turn boys into girls and vice-versa……………perfectly okay.

    Using common anti-parasitic drugs (that have been used safely on tens of millions of people for decades) off label, in order to save people from a dangerous respiratory virus ……………………. that’s just irresponsible and anti-science!

    • Agree: Art Deco
  57. Not strictly on-topic, but psychiatric. “Clanging” is a technical shrink term (I am not making that up) that means speech is not driven by the logic of the ideas. Instead, what drives clanging speech is the magical sound of rhyming (or alliterating) with what has come before. This is evidence of a severe mental disorder; as the podiatrist says in the moth joke, you’re in trouble, man. I think the entire left, from re-tweeting to CRT students to HR departments, is engaged in clanging back at us magical speech that they’ve heard before; just be sure it sounds the same, there’s no need for any logic whatever.

  58. @Paperback Writer
    O/T, but relevant to issue of mental illness. This is unbelievable.

    https://twitter.com/SumZeroX/status/1471871537561092101?s=20

    Replies: @Mina Horowitz, @Dmon, @J.Ross, @Art Deco, @Ripple Earthdevil, @Wade Hampton

    Black guy kills people. You find it “unbelievable”. Why? With respect, your horizons need broadening. Read Nicholas Stix or Paul Kersey.

    • Replies: @Paperback Writer
    @Wade Hampton

    Christ, people here have such bad tempers. Or maybe they're autistic and take everything literally?

    I meant "nuts" and "unbelievable" in the very broadest sense of the words.

    No, he's not nuts, and it's not unbelievable. Happy?

  59. @TruthRevolution.net
    Why is this Emil Kierkegaard still allowed to research and publish and probably even earn a salary? And to remain on Twitter!

    Kierkegaard constantly researches and publishes taboo #HateFacts. Why does he not get cancelled? Richard Lynn is protecting him? Lynn can barely protect himself.

    Before you delete my comment, let me point out that I am glad Emil can still speak. It just baffles me.

    Regarding the issue, are Transgender people
    a) intrinsically problematic, or
    b) does society aggravate, or
    c) improve their condition?
    a yes, b yes, c rarely is my guess

    Replies: @BB753

    Because he lives in Denmark?

  60. @jill
    Parent Says Daughter Was ‘Coached’ on LGBTQ Identity at California School

    https://archive.md/ErxLR#selection-1261.0-1261.73


    The mother speaks before the school board


    https://twitter.com/libsoftiktok/status/1471356907176615941


    Materials they use:

    https://twitter.com/atime_tostand/status/1466924113360949251

    Replies: @BB753

    Teachers are one of the vilest group of people out there. Doing evil for the sake of evil mindlessly.

  61. 2.6× rate for depression
    5× rate for hepatitis
    6.3× rate for drug abuse
    9.6× rate for schizophrenia
    10× rate for autism
    28× for HIV/AIDS

    So in other words, if you are in any way responsible for, say, an insurance fund, you want to keep your fund the hell away from trans people. And vice versa.

    And if you are in any way responsible for say, a civilization, you want to keep your civilization the hell away from trans people. And vice versa.

  62. Your take on this is interesting. Some would say this just means that trans people need more care and help and love from society. To you, their suffering means we should further alienate and reject them. You’re evil, Steve. I’ve always suspected as such.

    • Troll: S. Anonyia
    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
    @anonymous


    Your take on this is interesting. Some would say this just means that trans people need more care and help and love from society.
     
    Yeah, stupid people. Like you.
    , @Beliavsky
    @anonymous

    We are told that not helping people "transition" has terrible consequences, but people who do "transition" are doing very badly. I assume that is Steve's point.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

  63. I have met maybe half a dozen transgender people. Maybe one of them wasn’t a complete basket case. Anecdotally, the female-to-males seem more put together on average than the male-to-females.

  64. @anonymous
    Your take on this is interesting. Some would say this just means that trans people need more care and help and love from society. To you, their suffering means we should further alienate and reject them. You're evil, Steve. I've always suspected as such.

    Replies: @Mr. Anon, @Beliavsky

    Your take on this is interesting. Some would say this just means that trans people need more care and help and love from society.

    Yeah, stupid people. Like you.

  65. @Altai
    There was also another recent documentary from the Swedish national broadcaster investigating the treatment of trans children in terms of hormone interventions for very young children just start puberty. They interview a Dutch doctor who pioneered the approach of using endocrine disruptors developed for adult cancer patients being used off-label to stall normal puberty in children. She insanely claims they don't have any effect and allow more time to think about what they want to do. No, they have less effect than if you were to put a child on a kind of simulated cross-sex puberty but stalling their natural puberty for even a few months is huge. You don't get back that development and you don't have a normal development with your peers.

    These drugs still haven't been properly clinically trialed for these purposes. They are being used off-label. The speed at which this happened is scary.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPNSWjjAzDk

    In Sweden and the UK public health authorities are much more accountable and take their job seriously.

    They interview one trans person a man in his 50s who thought going to work every day in drag was worth losing his job over. He seems very mild mannered and not histrionic at all. But look at the artwork behind him at 12:38...

    Replies: @Altai, @Mr. Anon, @Don Unf, @Nancy

    View post on imgur.com


    https://www.bukowskis.com/fi/lots/1315636-elisabeth-ohlson-wallin-photograph-krucifix-signed
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elisabeth_Ohlson_Wallin

    Ohlson, a lesbian,[1] is most noted for her exhibition Ecce homo which portrayed Jesus among homosexuals and transvestites. The scenes were modern versions of stories of the New Testament, such as Jesus riding a bicycle in a gay parade like in the Triumphal entry he rode to town with a donkey. With the work, Ohlson wanted to remind people that Jesus worked with and helped the outcasts of the society. She had the idea when one of her friends died of AIDS in the early 1990s.

  66. @Anonymous
    @Altai


    It is common for conservative commentators and ‘TERFs’ to claim these girls would just have become lesbians (‘The Dems are the real homophobes!”) but the evidence I see from their own communities shows that ones who are sexually attracted to males are the majority now.
     
    1) Female puberty sucks.

    2) The ubiquity of hardcore porn. Doesn't mix well with female puberty.

    3) Slash and yaoi. For some of them, it's a fetish. A far cry from the sissy hypno porn that starts so many men on the trans path, or even from classic old-school autogynephiles, but still a fetish of sorts. They want to be one of the cute gay guys they romanticize and get off to.

    4) And, of course, social contagion.


    Speaking of autogynephilic "lesbians", my impression is that 15 years ago or so they were mostly highly intelligent and usually quite successful. Now every basement-dwelling, pony-loving weaboo loser is discovering their womanhood.

    Another pathology very common among trans "women" is pedophilia. Charming folx.

    Replies: @njguy73

    Pop star Billie Eilish, who as of this post will turn 20 tomorrow, recently said that she started watching internet porn at age 11 and that it “destroyed [her] brain” and left her “incredibly devastated.”

    I can see this leading to more young people making similar statements.

    https://www.cnn.com/2021/12/15/entertainment/billie-eilish-porn-scli-intl/index.html

    • Replies: @Mina Horowitz
    @njguy73

    Billie is interesting in that she was homeschooled in a bubble by her weirdo sketch comedy teacher Gen X parents, and despite being ostensibly very liberal, she is much more like a classic liberal of old who values free speech and does not come across as anti-white or anti-male like most of her contemporaries. She already decried "cancel culture" in interviews but she was only 17 at the time so there wasn't much backlash. Her comments about porn also fly in the face of nu feminist pro-"sex worker" speech that everyone is expected to spout these days and is kind of subversive if you think about it. Who is the last major public figure that appeals to teenagers to explicitly decry porn, essentially call it evil and tell people not to watch it? Gen Z has been noted by many as being far more puritanical than millennials and they have good reason to. Billie may be annoying to some but I will defend her, she is geniuenly talented and dare I say a great artist, and is doing what great artists do which is reflect society back at itself. This is the song where she mentions the porn:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_BhUxx-cwk

    Also, before someone says "her brother is behind all her music!", his own music sucks in comparison, so clearly she is also contributing big time.

    , @Cloudbuster
    @njguy73

    I've been making the same case for quite a while. The stuff these pubescent girls (and boys) are exposed to is absolutely terrifying, and this is unprecedented in human history on such a mass scale.

    Sixty years ago if it was discovered that a child was being systematically indoctrinated with such hardcore degeneracy as is being done casually to virtually all children now, someone would have been going to jail at the very least.

  67. @Altai
    All the evidence I see is that this mass cohort of adolescent girls insisting they are male are just a subset of girls with BPD and an internet connection. One question I'd pose: Where are all the adult women who are trans who never grew up in a time when it was accepted or celebrated? Do they exist? Do 'trans' adolescent girls have a history of sexual abuse or particularly distorted perspectives of sex? It is common for conservative commentators and 'TERFs' to claim these girls would just have become lesbians ('The Dems are the real homophobes!") but the evidence I see from their own communities shows that ones who are sexually attracted to males are the majority now.

    https://www.reddit.com/r/ftm/search/?q=attracted%20to%20men&restrict_sr=1&sr_nsfw=

    At first the line was "I am a man trapped inside a women's body" (There was no line for FtMs because until a few years ago there were practically none of them, though, hilariously they've recently been starting drama online because existing trans 'spaces' were 'erasing' them because they were and had been so tiny in number until recently) because this was the line which would be most socially acceptable. You and the speaker weren't really supposed to believe it and it didn't matter since there were few trans people and they didn't make much of an impact.

    Now I've been seeing increasing numbers of them taking it literally. As in, they are biologically male or female. (Not, let's expand the definition to fit us in too but "I have always been biologically male/female" in a 1984 way.) And that's just delusional and the kind of thing you need to have your brain wired in a particular way to insist upon.

    Just for fun I typed 'trans personality disorder' into Twitter. The bulk of the posts give up by standard search (It won't show every post) have trans people proudly proclaiming their borderline personality disorder. Seriously, these people are all over social media, they aren't hiding.

    https://twitter.com/search?q=trans%20personality%20disorder&src=typed_query

    Like anorexia in the past, trans is attractive to borderlines. It is just the most insane maladaptive coping mechanism ever. Very few psychological disorders in 2021 have medical or surgical interventions. But this one, despite the condition not being very well understood is not only approved but there is huge pressure to expand these services as wide and early as possible. The APA has lost all credibility.

    And there are copious studies of trans individuals and personality disorders, cluster B keeps coming up. Think about it. Even if you had the impulse for it, would you? Knowing the social consequences for everyone. Would you? Parents give up a lot of happiness for their children, not dressing up like a woman when you want, even if you had the impulse would not be hard. Yet time and time again we see these married men with children, who even have quite good jobs imploding all of that. That belies something about their character. How many profiles of Sailer-type trans 'women' mention that as men they used to be assholes? Quite a few.

    https://twitter.com/DanGrossmanGA/status/1435207105355603977

    Here is a recent Western study.

    https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32120872/


    Eighty-seven participants (40 transgender women and 47 transgender men) completed the Personality Inventory for DSM-5 and the Structured Clinical Interview for DSM-IV Axis II personality disorders. Scores obtained were compared to those of the normative samples of cisgender women and men. Results indicated that transgender women scored lower than cisgender women on two main domains (Negative Affectivity and Psychoticism) and on seven facets. As for transgender men, lower scores than cisgender men were found on Antagonism and on five facets. Transgender men scored higher than cisgender men on Depressivity. Nearly 50% of participants showed at least one PD diagnosis, with no gender differences in prevalence. Borderline PD was the most frequent diagnosis in the overall sample.
     
    I also like how the abstract politely mentions that the trans more resemble their sex of origin psychologically.

    And the concentrations of people with certain personality disorders shows itself again in their activism, it's histrionic. And wokeness more generally has become histrionic. (Frequent threats that if they don't let their child transition they will surely commit suicide, doesn't sound like BPD at all...)

    Steve once wrote during the period where 'there are no girls on the internet' and Ron Paul was 'the internet's candidate' that to some extent libertarianism was just applied autism. I wonder if we mightn't be served well to start seeing wokeness as applied BPD. Today the power users of the internet are not guys with Asperger's, they've teenage girls with cluster B disorders. We're all obligated to live in the head of a 15 year old girl with daddy issues and so far it's nearly torn the Western world apart in just a few years.

    Replies: @Mercer, @Alec Leamas (hard at work), @Jim Christian, @Paperback Writer, @Anonymous, @Tony massey, @Badger Down

    Take me, for example. I have always known that I am a dog. “Badger” isn’t really my name, just a patronymic handle, or whatever. I look almost human. When there are more of us, we can try to get some government money and degrees. As for male and female, I can’t tell the difference anyway.

  68. @anonymous
    Your take on this is interesting. Some would say this just means that trans people need more care and help and love from society. To you, their suffering means we should further alienate and reject them. You're evil, Steve. I've always suspected as such.

    Replies: @Mr. Anon, @Beliavsky

    We are told that not helping people “transition” has terrible consequences, but people who do “transition” are doing very badly. I assume that is Steve’s point.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Beliavsky


    We are told that not helping people “transition” has terrible consequences, but people who do “transition” are doing very badly.
     
    I just dropped in to see what condition my transition was in.
  69. @nebulafox
    @Ghost of Bull Moose

    Not for those who wish to define themselves on what they accomplished in spite of such things rather than as victims, I'm afraid. I can promise you: the vast majority of autistic schizoid drug addicts nevertheless have no desire to be effeminate, let alone outright female. Despite all the cultural conditioning, it shines through upon the slightest stress. Human nature can't be ignored.

    Also, the vast majority of "mentally ill" Millennials and Zoomers aren't. They are simply having a normal reaction to an abnormal life, coupled with the cultural messaging they've been given. They don't need pills, they need concrete life changes, both of their own efforts and from a surrounding society. (And the minority that actually do need medicine don't need *just* medicine.)

    Replies: @Ghost of Bull Moose

    Definitely agree with most of that. Mental illness certainly has a nature/nurture component.

  70. @Mina Horowitz
    @Bill

    Drugs yes, and that's a cultural thing, but I'm not sure about crazy. Depression isn't crazy. I personally don't know any schizophrenic gay men and I know a lot of gay men. Easy dopamine hits via sex are so easy for gay men that I don't think most of them have a reason to go crazy.

    Replies: @Paperback Writer, @Bill

    For pity’s sake. The CDC has a web page on it. It isn’t the tiniest little bit controversial. And everyone with significant experience with homosexuals has noticed it.

  71. “any autistic schizo drug addict with HIV.”

    Say what you will about the tenets of being an autistic schizo drug addict with HIV, *at least* it’s an ethos!

  72. @Jim Don Bob
    Herox is very good, Steve. You should trademark it.

    2) Here is a very good Jordan Peterson interview of Abigail Shrier who wrote a book on the explosion of "I'm a tranny" among teenage girls.

    https://www.jordanbpeterson.com/podcast/s4-e11-abigail-shrier/

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    Herox is very good, Steve. You should trademark it.

    It should be heroex, though.

    Besides, herox is too close to “he-rocks”. He is now they, and whether they still has their rocks is one of those questions you are not supposed to ask.

    It’s the hair (-touching) trigger of trannydom.

    Don’t be fooled by look-alikes:

    [MORE]

    • Replies: @Joe Stalin
    @Reg Cæsar


    Don’t be fooled by look-alikes:
     
    Hah! Cookie lovers know the Real Truth!

    Cream-filled and chocolatey, Oreo cookies have long reigned supreme as the go-to sandwich cookie on supermarket shelves, but they've become much more than that — they're a bona fide American icon. By 2017, with more than 40 billion Oreos produced every year, raking in more than $2 billion annually, they were hailed as "the best-selling cookie brand of the 21st century" by its manufacturers, Mondelez International.

    So it might surprise some fans that Oreos were once considered copycats. Though they were created more than 100 years ago, in 1912, they were actually the second of its kind to hit the market. The original was launched by a company called Sunshine Biscuits in 1908 — unfortunately named Hydrox, a misplaced mashup of hydrogen and oxygen, which was supposed to suggest "purity of product" (via Atlas Obscura).

    Aside from the general concept (dark chocolaty cookies sandwiching a cream center), the Hydrox cookie also sported a floral-type pattern, but when Oreos hit the scene to compete, it was the original that would eventually become the underdog — one writer for The New York Times dubbed Hydrox "the Pepsi to the Oreo's Coca-Cola."

    According to Insider, Oreos were introduced by the National Biscuit Company (later Nabisco), as "highest class biscuits." But they did not immediately overtake Hydrox. That process took decades, as the two competing manufacturers engaged in "biscuit wars," with Hydrox warning customers of "imposters" and Nabisco execs stubborn enough to absorb losses on the then-unsuccessful Oreo (via Serious Eats). But, with a redesign and aggressive ad campaign (plus a price hike), sales turned around for Oreos in the mid-1950s.

    As Serious Eats explains, Sunshine soon went belly-up, and Hydrox was eventually destined for the dustbin of history — but not before being ping-ponged around to companies like American Tobacco Company, Keebler, and Kellogg's. Keebler attempted to fix the unfortunate name issue by rebranding as Droxies, but the damage was done — only two years after Kellogg's assumed ownership in 2001, Hydrox was off the market (via Atlas Obscura).

    Leaf Brands, which reintroduced Hydrox in 2015, throws not-so-subtle shade toward Oreos on its website, saying, "don't eat a knock-off," and pointing out that its cookies are darker chocolate and crunchier, with a less-sweet filling. The company also calls attention to using real cane sugar (Oreos contain high-fructose corn syrup), plus a "cleaner label," sans hydrogenated oils, artificial flavors, and GMOs.

    https://www.mashed.com/223360/the-strange-history-of-the-oreo-and-hydrox-cookie-rivalry/
     

    Replies: @74v56ruthiyj, @AnotherDad

  73. @Paperback Writer
    @Mina Horowitz

    Homosexuality is a way for these guys to keep it together. Even when they aren't actively practicing. Their whole mindset is pretty screwed up. The best kind of homosexual is the Tim Gunn kind, smart, high strung, and as long as he can keep an equilibrium, he's productive. I don't think Gunn is the promiscuous type.

    Then there's the Tennessee Williams type which is similar to Gunn but promiscuous. He couldn't keep it together & he just drank himself to death - but at age 72, which is not bad. His muse deserted him and there was no reason to live.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    I don’t think Gunn is the promiscuous type.

    Except for one short, unfortunate affair in his youth, Gunn has been inactive all his life. This is probably why he seems saner than most of the others.

    Other instances of this, by their own account, are Andy Warhol and British comic actor Kenneth Williams. Those who have walked away include Milo Y. and Church Militant founder Michael Voris. Tom “Glad to Be Gay” Robinson is married, to a woman, and has two children with her. Whatever his “sexuality”, he is as radical as ever.

    • Replies: @Paperback Writer
    @Reg Cæsar


    Except for one short, unfortunate affair in his youth, Gunn has been inactive all his life. This is probably why he seems saner than most of the others.

     

    That's how it's always struck me. He channeled his unnatural urges into work, and he's done well. I admire the guy.

    About Warhol, I've heard that that was an act and he was (a) very sexually active and (b) obsessed with his physical appearance. He worked out and was quite buff.

    I'm skeptical about gay men who get married, or who "change." That's one part of the propaganda that I think has truth. They really cannot change. The best they can do is Tim Gunn - and that's not so bad.

    Lincoln Kirstein was married but he was a total homo and his poor wife who was a bit Laura Wingfield to start out with was driven nuts by it. Sad story.

    Replies: @J.Ross, @Athenian Gentleman

  74. @Reg Cæsar
    @Jim Don Bob


    Herox is very good, Steve. You should trademark it.
     
    It should be heroex, though.


    Besides, herox is too close to "he-rocks". He is now they, and whether they still has their rocks is one of those questions you are not supposed to ask.

    It's the hair (-touching) trigger of trannydom.


    Don't be fooled by look-alikes:


    https://i0.wp.com/www.brandlandusa.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/hydrox_vintage-1.jpg

    Replies: @Joe Stalin

    Don’t be fooled by look-alikes:

    Hah! Cookie lovers know the Real Truth!

    Cream-filled and chocolatey, Oreo cookies have long reigned supreme as the go-to sandwich cookie on supermarket shelves, but they’ve become much more than that — they’re a bona fide American icon. By 2017, with more than 40 billion Oreos produced every year, raking in more than \$2 billion annually, they were hailed as “the best-selling cookie brand of the 21st century” by its manufacturers, Mondelez International.

    So it might surprise some fans that Oreos were once considered copycats. Though they were created more than 100 years ago, in 1912, they were actually the second of its kind to hit the market. The original was launched by a company called Sunshine Biscuits in 1908 — unfortunately named Hydrox, a misplaced mashup of hydrogen and oxygen, which was supposed to suggest “purity of product” (via Atlas Obscura).

    Aside from the general concept (dark chocolaty cookies sandwiching a cream center), the Hydrox cookie also sported a floral-type pattern, but when Oreos hit the scene to compete, it was the original that would eventually become the underdog — one writer for The New York Times dubbed Hydrox “the Pepsi to the Oreo’s Coca-Cola.”

    According to Insider, Oreos were introduced by the National Biscuit Company (later Nabisco), as “highest class biscuits.” But they did not immediately overtake Hydrox. That process took decades, as the two competing manufacturers engaged in “biscuit wars,” with Hydrox warning customers of “imposters” and Nabisco execs stubborn enough to absorb losses on the then-unsuccessful Oreo (via Serious Eats). But, with a redesign and aggressive ad campaign (plus a price hike), sales turned around for Oreos in the mid-1950s.

    As Serious Eats explains, Sunshine soon went belly-up, and Hydrox was eventually destined for the dustbin of history — but not before being ping-ponged around to companies like American Tobacco Company, Keebler, and Kellogg’s. Keebler attempted to fix the unfortunate name issue by rebranding as Droxies, but the damage was done — only two years after Kellogg’s assumed ownership in 2001, Hydrox was off the market (via Atlas Obscura).

    Leaf Brands, which reintroduced Hydrox in 2015, throws not-so-subtle shade toward Oreos on its website, saying, “don’t eat a knock-off,” and pointing out that its cookies are darker chocolate and crunchier, with a less-sweet filling. The company also calls attention to using real cane sugar (Oreos contain high-fructose corn syrup), plus a “cleaner label,” sans hydrogenated oils, artificial flavors, and GMOs.

    https://www.mashed.com/223360/the-strange-history-of-the-oreo-and-hydrox-cookie-rivalry/

    • Replies: @74v56ruthiyj
    @Joe Stalin

    Hydrox was the better cookie. A girlfriend of mine said so arranged a blind taste test for me and she was right.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    , @AnotherDad
    @Joe Stalin

    Both of them are laughably bad food.

    Pretty much anyone whipping up a batch of chocolate chips, blows lame junk like Oreos out of the water.

    Replies: @Alden, @Art Deco

  75. @Daniel H
    @Anonymous


    Maybe the reason for that is the way that conservative society treats them historically, you know, like Human scum? Which in turn leads them to drug asbuse, etc.
     
    There was no "history" to trannies until, what?, 10 years ago.

    Replies: @Colinsky, @mc23, @Brutusale

    There was no “history” to trannies until, what?, 10 years ago.

    WWII veteran Christine Jorgensen became the first trainee in 1952.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Colinsky


    WWII veteran Christine Jorgensen became the first trainee in 1952.
     
    Oh? What was she trained in?

    Actually, the Divine Miss J was the first American tranny. Helped along by the fact that her parents were born to Danish immigrants, and she knew their language. The first trannies were in Germany a number of years earlier; the second one was The Danish Girl.


    Among the books donated to the RIF program at the Y where my mother worked was Christine's autobiography. It didn't make it into the program, so took it home and read it. For the same reason I read one or two Stephen King novels a few years later.


    Here she is using the term gender identity in 1982:


    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=HWOsIBJVFes

    Replies: @Alden, @Cloudbuster

  76. @Dmon
    @Paperback Writer

    In the CSI version, he will be White, the 5'0" 83lb Asian girlfriend will beat the crap out of him, then hook up with the black ex-wife.

    Replies: @Gary in Gramercy

    Procedural gold! Have your people call my people.

  77. @njguy73
    @Anonymous

    Pop star Billie Eilish, who as of this post will turn 20 tomorrow, recently said that she started watching internet porn at age 11 and that it "destroyed [her] brain" and left her "incredibly devastated."

    I can see this leading to more young people making similar statements.

    https://www.cnn.com/2021/12/15/entertainment/billie-eilish-porn-scli-intl/index.html

    Replies: @Mina Horowitz, @Cloudbuster

    Billie is interesting in that she was homeschooled in a bubble by her weirdo sketch comedy teacher Gen X parents, and despite being ostensibly very liberal, she is much more like a classic liberal of old who values free speech and does not come across as anti-white or anti-male like most of her contemporaries. She already decried “cancel culture” in interviews but she was only 17 at the time so there wasn’t much backlash. Her comments about porn also fly in the face of nu feminist pro-“sex worker” speech that everyone is expected to spout these days and is kind of subversive if you think about it. Who is the last major public figure that appeals to teenagers to explicitly decry porn, essentially call it evil and tell people not to watch it? Gen Z has been noted by many as being far more puritanical than millennials and they have good reason to. Billie may be annoying to some but I will defend her, she is geniuenly talented and dare I say a great artist, and is doing what great artists do which is reflect society back at itself. This is the song where she mentions the porn:

    Also, before someone says “her brother is behind all her music!”, his own music sucks in comparison, so clearly she is also contributing big time.

  78. @Daniel H
    @Anonymous


    Maybe the reason for that is the way that conservative society treats them historically, you know, like Human scum? Which in turn leads them to drug asbuse, etc.
     
    There was no "history" to trannies until, what?, 10 years ago.

    Replies: @Colinsky, @mc23, @Brutusale

    Iv’e been reading Steves columns about what he labeled as “World War T” since 2014 or so. I thought it sounded crazy when he said this would be the next big distraction. Transexualism was a bridge too far.

    Less the eight years later and the world has gone crazy. I don’t think too many people actually buy the Trannie nonsense. When does Irish Democracy sink in?

    Malignant transgenderism that forces people to recognize personal sexual identity over biology and science, is an existential evil.

    • Replies: @Bill Jones
    @mc23

    If you liked World War T, you're going to love World War Ped,

    And then You are going to have to lock up your dog for World War Z (no Brad Pitt in this one, I hope)

    Replies: @mc23, @Paul Mendez

  79. @Beliavsky
    @anonymous

    We are told that not helping people "transition" has terrible consequences, but people who do "transition" are doing very badly. I assume that is Steve's point.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    We are told that not helping people “transition” has terrible consequences, but people who do “transition” are doing very badly.

    I just dropped in to see what condition my transition was in.

  80. @Colinsky
    @Daniel H

    There was no “history” to trannies until, what?, 10 years ago.

    WWII veteran Christine Jorgensen became the first trainee in 1952.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    WWII veteran Christine Jorgensen became the first trainee in 1952.

    Oh? What was she trained in?

    Actually, the Divine Miss J was the first American tranny. Helped along by the fact that her parents were born to Danish immigrants, and she knew their language. The first trannies were in Germany a number of years earlier; the second one was The Danish Girl.

    Among the books donated to the RIF program at the Y where my mother worked was Christine’s autobiography. It didn’t make it into the program, so took it home and read it. For the same reason I read one or two Stephen King novels a few years later.

    Here she is using the term gender identity in 1982:

    • Replies: @Alden
    @Reg Cæsar

    Check out the hands and fingers. I didn’t even turn on the video, just glanced at the picture. Those huge hands stood out. Early and mid 20th century most of the world’s child and I mean child as in ages 2 to 9 porn came from Denmark. Made in Denmark by danish photographers and danish children.

    So much for the Nordic supremacy theory.

    , @Cloudbuster
    @Reg Cæsar

    The burgeoning German transexual movement was one of the things a group led by a certain Austrian gentleman rose to oppose. The book burnings? Books promoting that stuff were what was burned.

    Replies: @Athenian Gentleman, @Reg Cæsar

  81. @Joe Stalin
    @Reg Cæsar


    Don’t be fooled by look-alikes:
     
    Hah! Cookie lovers know the Real Truth!

    Cream-filled and chocolatey, Oreo cookies have long reigned supreme as the go-to sandwich cookie on supermarket shelves, but they've become much more than that — they're a bona fide American icon. By 2017, with more than 40 billion Oreos produced every year, raking in more than $2 billion annually, they were hailed as "the best-selling cookie brand of the 21st century" by its manufacturers, Mondelez International.

    So it might surprise some fans that Oreos were once considered copycats. Though they were created more than 100 years ago, in 1912, they were actually the second of its kind to hit the market. The original was launched by a company called Sunshine Biscuits in 1908 — unfortunately named Hydrox, a misplaced mashup of hydrogen and oxygen, which was supposed to suggest "purity of product" (via Atlas Obscura).

    Aside from the general concept (dark chocolaty cookies sandwiching a cream center), the Hydrox cookie also sported a floral-type pattern, but when Oreos hit the scene to compete, it was the original that would eventually become the underdog — one writer for The New York Times dubbed Hydrox "the Pepsi to the Oreo's Coca-Cola."

    According to Insider, Oreos were introduced by the National Biscuit Company (later Nabisco), as "highest class biscuits." But they did not immediately overtake Hydrox. That process took decades, as the two competing manufacturers engaged in "biscuit wars," with Hydrox warning customers of "imposters" and Nabisco execs stubborn enough to absorb losses on the then-unsuccessful Oreo (via Serious Eats). But, with a redesign and aggressive ad campaign (plus a price hike), sales turned around for Oreos in the mid-1950s.

    As Serious Eats explains, Sunshine soon went belly-up, and Hydrox was eventually destined for the dustbin of history — but not before being ping-ponged around to companies like American Tobacco Company, Keebler, and Kellogg's. Keebler attempted to fix the unfortunate name issue by rebranding as Droxies, but the damage was done — only two years after Kellogg's assumed ownership in 2001, Hydrox was off the market (via Atlas Obscura).

    Leaf Brands, which reintroduced Hydrox in 2015, throws not-so-subtle shade toward Oreos on its website, saying, "don't eat a knock-off," and pointing out that its cookies are darker chocolate and crunchier, with a less-sweet filling. The company also calls attention to using real cane sugar (Oreos contain high-fructose corn syrup), plus a "cleaner label," sans hydrogenated oils, artificial flavors, and GMOs.

    https://www.mashed.com/223360/the-strange-history-of-the-oreo-and-hydrox-cookie-rivalry/
     

    Replies: @74v56ruthiyj, @AnotherDad

    Hydrox was the better cookie. A girlfriend of mine said so arranged a blind taste test for me and she was right.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @74v56ruthiyj

    Better cookie, worse name than Oreo. Hydrox sounds like the name of the designer drug sweeping America in Sam Quinones' 2024 book.

  82. @74v56ruthiyj
    @Joe Stalin

    Hydrox was the better cookie. A girlfriend of mine said so arranged a blind taste test for me and she was right.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    Better cookie, worse name than Oreo. Hydrox sounds like the name of the designer drug sweeping America in Sam Quinones’ 2024 book.

  83. @mc23
    @Daniel H

    Iv'e been reading Steves columns about what he labeled as "World War T" since 2014 or so. I thought it sounded crazy when he said this would be the next big distraction. Transexualism was a bridge too far.

    Less the eight years later and the world has gone crazy. I don't think too many people actually buy the Trannie nonsense. When does Irish Democracy sink in?

    Malignant transgenderism that forces people to recognize personal sexual identity over biology and science, is an existential evil.

    Replies: @Bill Jones

    If you liked World War T, you’re going to love World War Ped,

    And then You are going to have to lock up your dog for World War Z (no Brad Pitt in this one, I hope)

    • Replies: @mc23
    @Bill Jones

    To paraphrase Mark Twain, “At first you go depraved slowly, then all at once.”

    , @Paul Mendez
    @Bill Jones


    If you liked World War T, you’re going to love World War Ped…
     
    My personal theory is that pedophilia will remain a taboo as long as the current bunch of Global Elites continue to rule the world.

    They need a blackmailable initiation rite that is both universally condemned yet still palatable to those who are not totally amoral. Few people are so ambitious they’d commit murder in order to be admitted into the highest corridors of power. But sex with a 15 year-old who is already sexually experienced isn’t that big of a hurdle to leap.

    Once, sins like adulatory, homosexuality, a black ancestor, drug/alcohol abuse, or a criminal record were shameful enough for blackmail purposes. Today, all that’s really left as a career-destroyer is sex with a minor.

    Replies: @Athenian Gentleman

  84. @Alec Leamas (hard at work)
    @Altai


    Where are all the adult women who are trans who never grew up in a time when it was accepted or celebrated?
     
    There's a lefty lesbian journalist (her name escapes me) who is chronicling the disappearance of lesbians as a subculture - the more femme lesbians are mainstreamed while the butch types are all becoming transsexual "men." So there really aren't any more lesbian bars and bookstores and what not.

    Replies: @Skyler the Weird

    The Lesbians are back in the closet as the government will soon force them to date Bruce Jenner clone Male to Female non operative transgender ‘lesbians’. It’s a hate crime if they refuse.

  85. @Daniel H
    @Anonymous


    Maybe the reason for that is the way that conservative society treats them historically, you know, like Human scum? Which in turn leads them to drug asbuse, etc.
     
    There was no "history" to trannies until, what?, 10 years ago.

    Replies: @Colinsky, @mc23, @Brutusale

    Back in the late 90s my girlfriend was giving hormone shots to proto-trans patients scheduled for facial femininization surgery. The young plastic surgeon who started the clinic was a savant, as he’s now swimming in patients.

    https://www.drspiegel.com/facial-feminization-surgery-boston/

    • Replies: @Cloudbuster
    @Brutusale

    Nowadays our Dr. Mengeles operate out in the open to fawning admiration.

  86. @Paul Mendez
    @Art Deco

    Medicaid eligibility is based on income and family size. In some states, all adults below a certain income level are covered.

    Replies: @Art Deco

    It specifically says ‘Medicare’ on his post.

    • Replies: @Paul Mendez
    @Art Deco

    It certainly does. My bad!

  87. @Cool Daddy Jimbo
    I don't care, as long as they get to go to the bathroom with my daughters!

    Replies: @AnotherDad

    I don’t care, as long as they get to go to the bathroom with my daughters!

    This pokes the root of the issue. The root of the whole minoritarian shit pile.

    You want to go do your own thing–fine.

    However, there is no right to mess with the functioning of the community/nation–normal productive people–i.e. the normie majority–living their lives according to their norms, customs, culture.

    Go do your own wonderful minority thing on your own dime and stop messing with us.

  88. @Joe Stalin
    @Reg Cæsar


    Don’t be fooled by look-alikes:
     
    Hah! Cookie lovers know the Real Truth!

    Cream-filled and chocolatey, Oreo cookies have long reigned supreme as the go-to sandwich cookie on supermarket shelves, but they've become much more than that — they're a bona fide American icon. By 2017, with more than 40 billion Oreos produced every year, raking in more than $2 billion annually, they were hailed as "the best-selling cookie brand of the 21st century" by its manufacturers, Mondelez International.

    So it might surprise some fans that Oreos were once considered copycats. Though they were created more than 100 years ago, in 1912, they were actually the second of its kind to hit the market. The original was launched by a company called Sunshine Biscuits in 1908 — unfortunately named Hydrox, a misplaced mashup of hydrogen and oxygen, which was supposed to suggest "purity of product" (via Atlas Obscura).

    Aside from the general concept (dark chocolaty cookies sandwiching a cream center), the Hydrox cookie also sported a floral-type pattern, but when Oreos hit the scene to compete, it was the original that would eventually become the underdog — one writer for The New York Times dubbed Hydrox "the Pepsi to the Oreo's Coca-Cola."

    According to Insider, Oreos were introduced by the National Biscuit Company (later Nabisco), as "highest class biscuits." But they did not immediately overtake Hydrox. That process took decades, as the two competing manufacturers engaged in "biscuit wars," with Hydrox warning customers of "imposters" and Nabisco execs stubborn enough to absorb losses on the then-unsuccessful Oreo (via Serious Eats). But, with a redesign and aggressive ad campaign (plus a price hike), sales turned around for Oreos in the mid-1950s.

    As Serious Eats explains, Sunshine soon went belly-up, and Hydrox was eventually destined for the dustbin of history — but not before being ping-ponged around to companies like American Tobacco Company, Keebler, and Kellogg's. Keebler attempted to fix the unfortunate name issue by rebranding as Droxies, but the damage was done — only two years after Kellogg's assumed ownership in 2001, Hydrox was off the market (via Atlas Obscura).

    Leaf Brands, which reintroduced Hydrox in 2015, throws not-so-subtle shade toward Oreos on its website, saying, "don't eat a knock-off," and pointing out that its cookies are darker chocolate and crunchier, with a less-sweet filling. The company also calls attention to using real cane sugar (Oreos contain high-fructose corn syrup), plus a "cleaner label," sans hydrogenated oils, artificial flavors, and GMOs.

    https://www.mashed.com/223360/the-strange-history-of-the-oreo-and-hydrox-cookie-rivalry/
     

    Replies: @74v56ruthiyj, @AnotherDad

    Both of them are laughably bad food.

    Pretty much anyone whipping up a batch of chocolate chips, blows lame junk like Oreos out of the water.

    • Replies: @Alden
    @AnotherDad

    Oreos have no taste at all. And they are too dry, hard and crunchy. Maybe because of 5 years sitting in ware houses drying out.

    The best store bought cookies are sold near the cashier at 7/11 believe it or not. 2 big not dry and hard cookies in a plastic bag. Not too soft not too hard perfect Chocolate chip oatmeal meal raisin peanut butter macadamia The chocolate chips taste of chocolate not nothing like most store bought chocolate chips.

    The best way to have delicious cookies is to have daughters. And a big supply of flour sugar baking powder butter vanilla nutmeg cinnamon coconut raisins oatmeal chocolate chips nuts and mixing bowls, cookie sheets, scoops and other baking supplies. They can find the recipes on their phones.

    Replies: @Paperback Writer

    , @Art Deco
    @AnotherDad

    Need to be sparing with carbs. Spend your carb budget on the good stuff, and that's not Hydrox or Oreos. The good stuff would be the bagged large-sized Pepperidge Farms or the Walker's shortbread.

  89. The (much) higher rate of HIV is interesting. It’s 28x, but x is a very small number, IIRC. If some trans women are drawn from the less-masculinized portion of gay men, my guess is that these are the sort of gays who (used to?) have anal sex. At the risk of being crude, if the “how to have sex” portion of your brain is not masculinized in the womb or at puberty, it is likely that given the default state of the brain is female, one wants to get fucked. There’s only one place near the sexytime area that…

    The high rate of schizophrenia is pretty interesting too. This comes from a high baseline. My guess would be 1.5-2+% of non-trans Medicare beneficiaries are schizophrenic. All(?) schizophrenics are classed as disabled after a while. Even in remission, the negative symptoms are awfully disabling. So, something like 20% of transgenders on Medicare are schizophrenic. Wonder how many had voices telling them they were women and did it to conform to or quieten them.

    On the other hand, transgendered schizophrenics on Medicare are approximately all the transgendered schizophrenics. The population rate depends on how many non-schizophrenic transgendered people there are.

    But, maybe an antipsychotic should be the first-line treatment for transgendered people? Being on an antipsychotic is probably an easier life than trying to “become” a woman. Be interesting to know how many lost interest in transitioning when treated for schiz.

    [MORE]

    If I recall, there are no psychiatric medications that treat personality disorders, but downstream psychiatric problems can be treated. Like, for borderlines, drugs can help treat the rapid and extreme mood swings, but nothing really helps with the very unstable sense of self.

    Hypothesis: for the nonfetishistic trans people, the transwomen are trying to escape intrasex competition, and the trans men are trying to escape the Male Gaze one used to hear so much about.

    Saw a trans woman attacking JK Rawlings on Twitter with the handle FirstName “Sexy Legs” LastName? Gee, I wonder if he’s a breast man, an ass man, or a… Anyway, he was defending the police practice of considering trans women who raped women as female. They used their you-know-whats to rape their victims, of course. More than likely, they raped poor lesbians whom they bullied into fooling around. Think JK Rowling’s Tweet on the matter was discussed here, actually.

    I can almost see that the police practice is reasonable. If you want the cops to find a trans woman, you don’t say “watch out for this man,” but you don’t say “watch out for this woman.” The reasonable thing to do is to say “watch out for this trans woman.” It’s like the trolley problem. You don’t aim the trolley towards fewer people, you try to stop the trolley and yell “get off the tracks. Trolley’s coming!”

    on “Sexy Legs”, actual women on Twitter don’t seem to ever reference how sexy a particular body part of theirs is in their handle. Maybe because real women are lower self-esteem and are more self-critical than men?

    • Replies: @Art Deco
    @Rob

    All(?) schizophrenics are classed as disabled after a while.

    No. Per Fuller Torrey, about 1/3 of people suffering schizophreniform breakdowns recover (more-or-less) and get on with life, albeit are commonly not as high functioning as before. I'm acquainted with one who has had four breakdowns and is still working. I think if it hits you later in life and you're already established in some trade, you have better prospects. (Per Torrey, sudden-onset and paranoia are also good signs).

  90. @Wade Hampton
    @Paperback Writer

    Black guy kills people. You find it "unbelievable". Why? With respect, your horizons need broadening. Read Nicholas Stix or Paul Kersey.

    Replies: @Paperback Writer

    Christ, people here have such bad tempers. Or maybe they’re autistic and take everything literally?

    I meant “nuts” and “unbelievable” in the very broadest sense of the words.

    No, he’s not nuts, and it’s not unbelievable. Happy?

  91. @Ripple Earthdevil
    @Paperback Writer

    A good friend worked with the ex-gf at one of the major hospitals here in the East Bay. Needless to say she's pretty shook up as are her co-workers who knew her. She was Filipina.

    Replies: @Paperback Writer

    Thanks. With a few exceptions, the commenters here are gold.

    Silly Filipina married to that creep.

  92. @Art Deco
    @Paul Mendez

    It specifically says 'Medicare' on his post.

    Replies: @Paul Mendez

    It certainly does. My bad!

  93. Here’s another reason why “Black” to describe black people is stupid.

    In a Facebook Live video taken between the killings, Black, who is from the 7600 block of Ironworks Way in Hanover, stood outside an apartment building in Columbia’s Kings Contrivance neighborhood where he says he’s upset about custody issues with both women.

    Court records show the Blacks have been tangled in a custody battle since July 2018. There have been filings nearly every month throughout the past three years, with the most recent one being filed Tuesday. Both Wendy and Rajaee Black worked as certified registered nurse anesthetists, helping administer the proper doses of anesthesia for surgeries and other procedures such as epidurals.

    https://www.baltimoresun.com/news/crime/bs-md-cr-murder-suicide-follow-20211212-wckpf2qcbrdp7ehvxddfourwlu-story.html

    It’s visually confusing.

    BTW, I feel qualified sympathy for Black (the man). Not defending him but custody battles can drive people crazy. Crazy in the demotic sense so spare me the cheap shots. There have been white men who have done the same. And he killed himself so he was genuinely desperate.

    What he did to his kids is unforgivable though.

    • Replies: @The Anti-Gnostic
    @Paperback Writer

    The Wagner-Rhoden feud, culminating in the Wagners massacring everyone in the Rhoden clan who could potentially get custody of the child at the center of the dispute, strikes me as the Mother of all Custody Fights.

    I'm surprised Steve hasn't delved into that case. Maybe I'm naive, but it strikes me as a really shocking breakdown in norms among otherwise comparatively functional American lumpenproles. Lots of Charles Murray/iSteve-y stuff to consider. I don't think white-American Fishtown has slid into home with black and Native lumpenproles yet, but it's rounding second and sprinting hard.

  94. @al gore rhythms
    If scientists developed a drug which could change the brains of trans people so that their minds accorded with their birth-bodies, what would be the mainstream, CNN take on this? Would this be a terrible crime, like Christian parents taking their kid to a gay conversion camp, or would it seem like you were saying that their condition was a mental illness like schizophrenia that could be treated with medication, and therefore wrong because you are 'calling them crazy'....or would it in fact be OK?

    But then why would it be more moral to consider changing the body and NOT the brain? Would it be because by changing the body we can continue to believe that this is an issue of 'free will' and the primacy of the mind? If so, isn't this ridiculous when it would be the case that these parts of the mind were not 'willed' by the individual in the first place?

    Replies: @Wilkey

    The irony being that conversion therapy, which is little more than cognitive, “talk” therapy, has been outlawed in many countries – including just recently in Canada – even for consenting adults.

    But mutilating the genitals of physically healthy human beings, completely blocking puberty in children, and stuffing their bodies with hormones meant for members of the opposite sex? That’s not only acceptable, but mandatory.

    • Agree: Cloudbuster
  95. It wasn’t that long ago, like maybe a decade or so, that trans people were actually properly classified as being insane. Now instead, general society is becoming increasingly insane by trying to accommodate this deviant and disturbed population. Sad.

  96. @Altai
    There was also another recent documentary from the Swedish national broadcaster investigating the treatment of trans children in terms of hormone interventions for very young children just start puberty. They interview a Dutch doctor who pioneered the approach of using endocrine disruptors developed for adult cancer patients being used off-label to stall normal puberty in children. She insanely claims they don't have any effect and allow more time to think about what they want to do. No, they have less effect than if you were to put a child on a kind of simulated cross-sex puberty but stalling their natural puberty for even a few months is huge. You don't get back that development and you don't have a normal development with your peers.

    These drugs still haven't been properly clinically trialed for these purposes. They are being used off-label. The speed at which this happened is scary.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPNSWjjAzDk

    In Sweden and the UK public health authorities are much more accountable and take their job seriously.

    They interview one trans person a man in his 50s who thought going to work every day in drag was worth losing his job over. He seems very mild mannered and not histrionic at all. But look at the artwork behind him at 12:38...

    Replies: @Altai, @Mr. Anon, @Don Unf, @Nancy

    Certainly clarifies how the US (& global) med institutions just said, ‘how high?” when told to jump, in this Covid tragedy (and the AIDS/HIV). I wonder what leverage point the Termites are pressing to engineer the fight against the ‘backlash’… probably, funding the ‘support’ groups, at least. (Reminds me of using the teen Greta Thunberg as face of ‘climate change’ hysteria… well funded, also …. and Nordic 🙂

  97. @AnotherDad
    @Joe Stalin

    Both of them are laughably bad food.

    Pretty much anyone whipping up a batch of chocolate chips, blows lame junk like Oreos out of the water.

    Replies: @Alden, @Art Deco

    Oreos have no taste at all. And they are too dry, hard and crunchy. Maybe because of 5 years sitting in ware houses drying out.

    The best store bought cookies are sold near the cashier at 7/11 believe it or not. 2 big not dry and hard cookies in a plastic bag. Not too soft not too hard perfect Chocolate chip oatmeal meal raisin peanut butter macadamia The chocolate chips taste of chocolate not nothing like most store bought chocolate chips.

    The best way to have delicious cookies is to have daughters. And a big supply of flour sugar baking powder butter vanilla nutmeg cinnamon coconut raisins oatmeal chocolate chips nuts and mixing bowls, cookie sheets, scoops and other baking supplies. They can find the recipes on their phones.

    • Replies: @Paperback Writer
    @Alden


    The best way to have delicious cookies is to have daughters.

     

    Wow, Christmas is softening the hard & argumentative hearts of Steve commenters! Love it.

    For sure, the best part of the Yuletide season is cookies. For the season, I switch away from my favorite (crispy oatmeal) to butter cookies. Eastern European cooks incorporate hard-cooked yolks into their recipes.

    You forgot cardamom. Popular in Scandinavian baking for some reason.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

  98. @Reg Cæsar
    @Colinsky


    WWII veteran Christine Jorgensen became the first trainee in 1952.
     
    Oh? What was she trained in?

    Actually, the Divine Miss J was the first American tranny. Helped along by the fact that her parents were born to Danish immigrants, and she knew their language. The first trannies were in Germany a number of years earlier; the second one was The Danish Girl.


    Among the books donated to the RIF program at the Y where my mother worked was Christine's autobiography. It didn't make it into the program, so took it home and read it. For the same reason I read one or two Stephen King novels a few years later.


    Here she is using the term gender identity in 1982:


    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=HWOsIBJVFes

    Replies: @Alden, @Cloudbuster

    Check out the hands and fingers. I didn’t even turn on the video, just glanced at the picture. Those huge hands stood out. Early and mid 20th century most of the world’s child and I mean child as in ages 2 to 9 porn came from Denmark. Made in Denmark by danish photographers and danish children.

    So much for the Nordic supremacy theory.

  99. @Reg Cæsar
    @Paperback Writer


    I don’t think Gunn is the promiscuous type.
     
    Except for one short, unfortunate affair in his youth, Gunn has been inactive all his life. This is probably why he seems saner than most of the others.

    Other instances of this, by their own account, are Andy Warhol and British comic actor Kenneth Williams. Those who have walked away include Milo Y. and Church Militant founder Michael Voris. Tom "Glad to Be Gay" Robinson is married, to a woman, and has two children with her. Whatever his "sexuality", he is as radical as ever.

    Replies: @Paperback Writer

    Except for one short, unfortunate affair in his youth, Gunn has been inactive all his life. This is probably why he seems saner than most of the others.

    That’s how it’s always struck me. He channeled his unnatural urges into work, and he’s done well. I admire the guy.

    About Warhol, I’ve heard that that was an act and he was (a) very sexually active and (b) obsessed with his physical appearance. He worked out and was quite buff.

    I’m skeptical about gay men who get married, or who “change.” That’s one part of the propaganda that I think has truth. They really cannot change. The best they can do is Tim Gunn – and that’s not so bad.

    Lincoln Kirstein was married but he was a total homo and his poor wife who was a bit Laura Wingfield to start out with was driven nuts by it. Sad story.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    @Paperback Writer

    John Coulthart is the same, brilliant artist, claims to have survived AIDS by dint of introversion.

    , @Athenian Gentleman
    @Paperback Writer


    I’m skeptical about gay men who get married, or who “change.” That’s one part of the propaganda that I think has truth. They really cannot change.
     
    Have you considered the possibility that the reality, as so often is the case, lies somewhere between the polar extremes? That homoerotic proclivities are neither-- as the prevailing orthodoxy insists-- in all cases, without exception both innate as well as immutable; nor, as others insist, that such desires are never even partly innate, and are always (or even nearly always) fully mutable? That the reality concerning these questions may vary, even wildly, between individuals?

    As for reparative therapy (known as conversion therapy), an open but healthily skeptical attitude would seem prudent. There would seem little doubt that we need more data. But how to obtain it in the present environment? Surely, anyone who were to find any results that countered The Narrative would face severe recriminations and lose any credibility in the psychiatric or scientific that he may have had. And that is even assuming that any serious investigation that wasn't expected to get the Approved results (or even rigged to) could ever get off the ground in the first place.

    As if the obstacles enumerated above were not enough, there is the additional one that the practice (i.e., reparative therapy) is now categorically banned in at least many jurisdictions. One would presume that, as a result of this, many have taken the practice underground. The inability to regulate and oversee such purported therapy, in turn, increases the potential for abuse by unscrupulous or incompetent practitioners. Such a risk, while no doubt weaponized by enforcers of the prevailing orthodoxy, would clearly seem nonetheless all-too-real.


    The best they can do is Tim Gunn – and that’s not so bad.
     
    It might be noted that celibacy, even if the ideal alternative to the typical, hyper-promiscuous, patently degenerate, buggery-centric Gay lifestyle, is not the only alternative. There are also far safer and more hygienic non-penetrative forms of intercourse; ones consistent with an ideal of homoerotic love that does not do the violence to dignity, masculinity and anatomical integrity that the prevailing one does.

    Replies: @Paperback Writer

  100. @Bill Jones
    @mc23

    If you liked World War T, you're going to love World War Ped,

    And then You are going to have to lock up your dog for World War Z (no Brad Pitt in this one, I hope)

    Replies: @mc23, @Paul Mendez

    To paraphrase Mark Twain, “At first you go depraved slowly, then all at once.”

  101. Is any data on trannies any good considering how few of them there are?

    • Agree: Alden
  102. @Paperback Writer
    @Reg Cæsar


    Except for one short, unfortunate affair in his youth, Gunn has been inactive all his life. This is probably why he seems saner than most of the others.

     

    That's how it's always struck me. He channeled his unnatural urges into work, and he's done well. I admire the guy.

    About Warhol, I've heard that that was an act and he was (a) very sexually active and (b) obsessed with his physical appearance. He worked out and was quite buff.

    I'm skeptical about gay men who get married, or who "change." That's one part of the propaganda that I think has truth. They really cannot change. The best they can do is Tim Gunn - and that's not so bad.

    Lincoln Kirstein was married but he was a total homo and his poor wife who was a bit Laura Wingfield to start out with was driven nuts by it. Sad story.

    Replies: @J.Ross, @Athenian Gentleman

    John Coulthart is the same, brilliant artist, claims to have survived AIDS by dint of introversion.

  103. @Bill Jones
    @mc23

    If you liked World War T, you're going to love World War Ped,

    And then You are going to have to lock up your dog for World War Z (no Brad Pitt in this one, I hope)

    Replies: @mc23, @Paul Mendez

    If you liked World War T, you’re going to love World War Ped…

    My personal theory is that pedophilia will remain a taboo as long as the current bunch of Global Elites continue to rule the world.

    They need a blackmailable initiation rite that is both universally condemned yet still palatable to those who are not totally amoral. Few people are so ambitious they’d commit murder in order to be admitted into the highest corridors of power. But sex with a 15 year-old who is already sexually experienced isn’t that big of a hurdle to leap.

    Once, sins like adulatory, homosexuality, a black ancestor, drug/alcohol abuse, or a criminal record were shameful enough for blackmail purposes. Today, all that’s really left as a career-destroyer is sex with a minor.

    • Replies: @Athenian Gentleman
    @Paul Mendez


    Once, sins like adulatory, homosexuality, a black ancestor, drug/alcohol abuse, or a criminal record were shameful enough for blackmail purposes. Today, all that’s really left as a career-destroyer is sex with a minor.
     
    Note the correlation between the following two distinct phenomena, each of which has reached critical ascendancy over the past thirty years or so.

    (A) the de-stigmatization, acceptance and even celebration of proclivities and behaviors (such as the ones you enumerated) that were once considered sinful, shameful and reprobate

    (B) heightened, hypermoralistic, overwrought, even hysterical, draconian, unqualified categorical condemnatory attitudes concerning minors

    Notable examples of (B) include, but are not limited-to, prison sentences for the mere viewing of images more severe than those for crimes involving actual violence; the criminalization of even cartoon-style drawings of entirely fictional characters, and literary fantasy; women convicted of engaging eager, virile teenage males being given prison sentences that are longer than those often given for violent crimes, etc., etc.

    It has been posited that this correlation is no mere coincidence. Specifically, that (B) allows people to assuage their conscience over (A); and (B) also enables people to feel a sense of moral superiority over others, something that (A) created a new need for. Of course, no small amount of self-righteous preening has been faciliated by the stigmatization and even persecution of resistance or even insufficient submission to the ever-increasingly unreasonable and excessive demands encompassed by (A).


    But sex with a 15 year-old who is already sexually experienced isn’t isn’t that big of a hurdle to leap.
     
    Sex with a 15-year-old, whatever else it may or not be, is emphatically not pedophilia*.

    Easily one of the most misused and abused words in the English language, pedophilia properly refers-to erotic attraction** to prepubescent children. Attraction to unambiguously post-pubescent, sexually-mature adolescents (roughly 15-19) is ephebophilia; to post- or peri-pubescent early-adolescents, hebephilia (roughly 11-14). Obviously, at the margins there can be considerable overlap between the classifications.

    (*Except, perhaps, in rare cases in which an adolescent has not reached puberty by that age.)
    (**that may or may not be acted-upon)

  104. @Anonymous
    Steve Sailer:

    "Transgenders Tend to Suffer Badly from Mental Illness, Autism, Drug Abuse, and HIV"

    Maybe the reason for that is the way that conservative society treats them historically, you know, like Human scum? Which in turn leads them to drug asbuse, etc.

    It's funny that right-wing conservatives like you mistreat and disenfranchise people for who they are, and then when they show disabilitiesa and lash out because of it, you blame them for it. I've never seen such callous disregard for other human beings like this.

    You want to talk about mental illness, so let's talk about mentall illness. I think right-wing conservatives suffer from the mental illness of psychopathy. That would explain how you can so utterly disregard the needs of a significant fraction of the population(gays, transgenders, ethnic minorities, etc). Discriminating people because of the color of their skin, something that they have no control over, or their sexual orientation, when having one's sexuality validated is essential for a person's emotional well-being. But you only validate the sexuality of people if it is for breeding.

    The other mental illness that right-wingers suffer from is psychosis. Being a right-winger correlates very strongly to gathering at a place and worshipping an imaginary being no one has ever seen and for which there is no evidence of it's existence.

    And the worst part is the cognitive and moral disonance. Because these right-wingers claim to follow the teachings of a man that told them to turn the other cheek, a man that embraced prostitutes and thieves, a man that told them that it's easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich person to get into God's kingdom, etc.

    Jesus: "Turn the other cheek." ----> Right-wing Christian conservatives: Bigggest supporters of capital punishment

    Jesus: "it's easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich person to get into God's kingdom." ---------> Right wing conservatives: biggest supporters of big business

    Jesus: "“If you want to be perfect, go and sell all your possessions and give the money to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven." Right-wing conservatives: huge supporters of private property and hate welfare for the poor.

    Jesus: Luke 7 36-50: Jesus embraces the prostitute that washes his feet with her tears and then dries them with her hair. Right-wing conservative Christians: are full of hatred for all"deviants", and just for anyone who is different from themselves in general, such as having a different skin color or even a different lifestyle.

    I love the moral disonance of right-wing conservatives who call themselves Christians. Jesus was a liberal, and would have despised you. Well, Jesus would not despise you because he was unable to despise anyone, but he certainly would not approve of your prejudiced, discriminatory view of the World which is extremely antithetical to hsi teachings. Christians? You guys are more along the Pharisees that crucified Jesus! *That* is who you are.

    So to recapitulate the mental illnesses of the Right: a tendency towards psychopathy as well as psychosis("The government is coming for my guns!" "Vaccines are a plan by Bill Gates f0r World control!", "9/11 was an inside job!"), absolute moral disonance, living lifestyles that are the extreme polar opposites of the teachings of the founder of the religion that they claim to follow("FK the poor! "Fry criminals in the electric chair", "I will shoot anyone that enters my propert!")

    Replies: @Daniel H, @Bardon Kaldian, @John Regan, @ic1000, @Kolya Krassotkin

    Glad you stopped by to share your perspectives, anon-353.

    > Right wing conservatives: biggest supporters of big business

    You might want to re-visit that one. And a few of the other observations.

    Stick around, read some more, and think about things. Let the other commenters know what you figure out.

  105. @Art Deco
    @Paperback Writer

    Where is the evidence that he was addled by schizophrenoform disorders or some species of dementia?. This man was ill only in the metaphoric sense.

    Cannot locate a picture of the wife, but one of the gf is available. Passably easy on the eyes. She was pregnant and he evidently sired two children by the estranged wife in recent years. Not understanding what they saw in him.

    Replies: @Gabe Ruth

    Can’t fathom how you are surprised by this guy being a chick magnet. Do you have Whiskey blocked or something?

  106. @Paul Mendez
    @Bill Jones


    If you liked World War T, you’re going to love World War Ped…
     
    My personal theory is that pedophilia will remain a taboo as long as the current bunch of Global Elites continue to rule the world.

    They need a blackmailable initiation rite that is both universally condemned yet still palatable to those who are not totally amoral. Few people are so ambitious they’d commit murder in order to be admitted into the highest corridors of power. But sex with a 15 year-old who is already sexually experienced isn’t that big of a hurdle to leap.

    Once, sins like adulatory, homosexuality, a black ancestor, drug/alcohol abuse, or a criminal record were shameful enough for blackmail purposes. Today, all that’s really left as a career-destroyer is sex with a minor.

    Replies: @Athenian Gentleman

    Once, sins like adulatory, homosexuality, a black ancestor, drug/alcohol abuse, or a criminal record were shameful enough for blackmail purposes. Today, all that’s really left as a career-destroyer is sex with a minor.

    Note the correlation between the following two distinct phenomena, each of which has reached critical ascendancy over the past thirty years or so.

    (A) the de-stigmatization, acceptance and even celebration of proclivities and behaviors (such as the ones you enumerated) that were once considered sinful, shameful and reprobate

    (B) heightened, hypermoralistic, overwrought, even hysterical, draconian, unqualified categorical condemnatory attitudes concerning minors

    Notable examples of (B) include, but are not limited-to, prison sentences for the mere viewing of images more severe than those for crimes involving actual violence; the criminalization of even cartoon-style drawings of entirely fictional characters, and literary fantasy; women convicted of engaging eager, virile teenage males being given prison sentences that are longer than those often given for violent crimes, etc., etc.

    It has been posited that this correlation is no mere coincidence. Specifically,

    [MORE]
    that (B) allows people to assuage their conscience over (A); and (B) also enables people to feel a sense of moral superiority over others, something that (A) created a new need for. Of course, no small amount of self-righteous preening has been faciliated by the stigmatization and even persecution of resistance or even insufficient submission to the ever-increasingly unreasonable and excessive demands encompassed by (A).

    But sex with a 15 year-old who is already sexually experienced isn’t isn’t that big of a hurdle to leap.

    Sex with a 15-year-old, whatever else it may or not be, is emphatically not pedophilia*.

    Easily one of the most misused and abused words in the English language, pedophilia properly refers-to erotic attraction** to prepubescent children. Attraction to unambiguously post-pubescent, sexually-mature adolescents (roughly 15-19) is ephebophilia; to post- or peri-pubescent early-adolescents, hebephilia (roughly 11-14). Obviously, at the margins there can be considerable overlap between the classifications.

    (*Except, perhaps, in rare cases in which an adolescent has not reached puberty by that age.)
    (**that may or may not be acted-upon)

  107. @Paperback Writer
    @Reg Cæsar


    Except for one short, unfortunate affair in his youth, Gunn has been inactive all his life. This is probably why he seems saner than most of the others.

     

    That's how it's always struck me. He channeled his unnatural urges into work, and he's done well. I admire the guy.

    About Warhol, I've heard that that was an act and he was (a) very sexually active and (b) obsessed with his physical appearance. He worked out and was quite buff.

    I'm skeptical about gay men who get married, or who "change." That's one part of the propaganda that I think has truth. They really cannot change. The best they can do is Tim Gunn - and that's not so bad.

    Lincoln Kirstein was married but he was a total homo and his poor wife who was a bit Laura Wingfield to start out with was driven nuts by it. Sad story.

    Replies: @J.Ross, @Athenian Gentleman

    I’m skeptical about gay men who get married, or who “change.” That’s one part of the propaganda that I think has truth. They really cannot change.

    Have you considered the possibility that the reality, as so often is the case, lies somewhere between the polar extremes? That homoerotic proclivities are neither— as the prevailing orthodoxy insists– in all cases, without exception both innate as well as immutable; nor, as others insist, that such desires are never even partly innate, and are always (or even nearly always) fully mutable? That the reality concerning these questions may vary, even wildly, between individuals?

    As for reparative therapy (known as conversion therapy), an open but healthily skeptical attitude would seem prudent.

    [MORE]
    There would seem little doubt that we need more data. But how to obtain it in the present environment? Surely, anyone who were to find any results that countered The Narrative would face severe recriminations and lose any credibility in the psychiatric or scientific that he may have had. And that is even assuming that any serious investigation that wasn’t expected to get the Approved results (or even rigged to) could ever get off the ground in the first place.

    As if the obstacles enumerated above were not enough, there is the additional one that the practice (i.e., reparative therapy) is now categorically banned in at least many jurisdictions. One would presume that, as a result of this, many have taken the practice underground. The inability to regulate and oversee such purported therapy, in turn, increases the potential for abuse by unscrupulous or incompetent practitioners. Such a risk, while no doubt weaponized by enforcers of the prevailing orthodoxy, would clearly seem nonetheless all-too-real.

    The best they can do is Tim Gunn – and that’s not so bad.

    It might be noted that celibacy, even if the ideal alternative to the typical, hyper-promiscuous, patently degenerate, buggery-centric Gay lifestyle, is not the only alternative. There are also far safer and more hygienic non-penetrative forms of intercourse; ones consistent with an ideal of homoerotic love that does not do the violence to dignity, masculinity and anatomical integrity that the prevailing one does.

    • Replies: @Paperback Writer
    @Athenian Gentleman

    I really haven't devoted the depth of analysis to the subject you have.

    I leave that to Athenian Gentlemen.

    Whatever compromises you come up with, I suggest you leave the ladies out of it.

  108. @njguy73
    @Anonymous

    Pop star Billie Eilish, who as of this post will turn 20 tomorrow, recently said that she started watching internet porn at age 11 and that it "destroyed [her] brain" and left her "incredibly devastated."

    I can see this leading to more young people making similar statements.

    https://www.cnn.com/2021/12/15/entertainment/billie-eilish-porn-scli-intl/index.html

    Replies: @Mina Horowitz, @Cloudbuster

    I’ve been making the same case for quite a while. The stuff these pubescent girls (and boys) are exposed to is absolutely terrifying, and this is unprecedented in human history on such a mass scale.

    Sixty years ago if it was discovered that a child was being systematically indoctrinated with such hardcore degeneracy as is being done casually to virtually all children now, someone would have been going to jail at the very least.

  109. @Reg Cæsar
    @Colinsky


    WWII veteran Christine Jorgensen became the first trainee in 1952.
     
    Oh? What was she trained in?

    Actually, the Divine Miss J was the first American tranny. Helped along by the fact that her parents were born to Danish immigrants, and she knew their language. The first trannies were in Germany a number of years earlier; the second one was The Danish Girl.


    Among the books donated to the RIF program at the Y where my mother worked was Christine's autobiography. It didn't make it into the program, so took it home and read it. For the same reason I read one or two Stephen King novels a few years later.


    Here she is using the term gender identity in 1982:


    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=HWOsIBJVFes

    Replies: @Alden, @Cloudbuster

    The burgeoning German transexual movement was one of the things a group led by a certain Austrian gentleman rose to oppose. The book burnings? Books promoting that stuff were what was burned.

    • Replies: @Athenian Gentleman
    @Cloudbuster


    The burgeoning German transexual movement was one of the things a group led by a certain Austrian gentleman rose to oppose.
     
    One might wonder just what your point, in making this rather coy comment here, was. Would any serious, reasonably well-informed individual of sound mind and decent character argue that any number of the positions taken, and arguments advanced by the Nazis were other-than reasonable, even compelling and correct?

    To defend their "solution", however? The categorical, wholesale persecution and mass murder of an entire class of people, a class defined solely and absolutely by the immutable fact of their genealogy, a mere accident-of-birth that no individual has any control whatsoever over? Is such a defense, if not an outright championing, not just what your comment implicitly does?

    Books promoting that stuff were what was burned.
     
    1.) Are we to understand, then, that you approve of such responses to ideas deemed unacceptable (no matter how correctly)? Do you think they are the most effective approach?

    2.) There would seem little doubt that you oppose (and most likely emphatically and categorically oppose) restrictions on so-called "hate speech", as well all attempts at censorship of (at a minimum) views regarding the Nazis that fall outside of the Overton Window. Assuming that (a) this assumption of mine is correct, and (b) that you do, indeed, support the Nazi book burnings that you referenced above, an obvious, though probably mostly rhetorical, question would follow.

    Namely, would it not then be plainly obvious that both your opposition to censorship (when its target are ideas you support), as well as your support of censorship (when its target are ideas that you condemn), are, far from being principled positions, merely instrumental ones?

    Replies: @Anonymous

    , @Reg Cæsar
    @Cloudbuster


    ...one of the things a group led by a certain Austrian gentleman rose to oppose.
     
    He also sent pink triangles to camps to shut up the ones he'd blown.
  110. @Brutusale
    @Daniel H

    Back in the late 90s my girlfriend was giving hormone shots to proto-trans patients scheduled for facial femininization surgery. The young plastic surgeon who started the clinic was a savant, as he's now swimming in patients.

    https://www.drspiegel.com/facial-feminization-surgery-boston/

    Replies: @Cloudbuster

    Nowadays our Dr. Mengeles operate out in the open to fawning admiration.

  111. I think Mr. Sailer is deliberately misinterpreting the data here. As with African-Americans, the more distressing the facts that describe them, the more heavily weighs the responsibility on the shoulders of a white racist/sexist/whateverist country.

  112. @Rob
    The (much) higher rate of HIV is interesting. It’s 28x, but x is a very small number, IIRC. If some trans women are drawn from the less-masculinized portion of gay men, my guess is that these are the sort of gays who (used to?) have anal sex. At the risk of being crude, if the “how to have sex” portion of your brain is not masculinized in the womb or at puberty, it is likely that given the default state of the brain is female, one wants to get fucked. There’s only one place near the sexytime area that…

    The high rate of schizophrenia is pretty interesting too. This comes from a high baseline. My guess would be 1.5-2+% of non-trans Medicare beneficiaries are schizophrenic. All(?) schizophrenics are classed as disabled after a while. Even in remission, the negative symptoms are awfully disabling. So, something like 20% of transgenders on Medicare are schizophrenic. Wonder how many had voices telling them they were women and did it to conform to or quieten them.

    On the other hand, transgendered schizophrenics on Medicare are approximately all the transgendered schizophrenics. The population rate depends on how many non-schizophrenic transgendered people there are.

    But, maybe an antipsychotic should be the first-line treatment for transgendered people? Being on an antipsychotic is probably an easier life than trying to “become” a woman. Be interesting to know how many lost interest in transitioning when treated for schiz.

    If I recall, there are no psychiatric medications that treat personality disorders, but downstream psychiatric problems can be treated. Like, for borderlines, drugs can help treat the rapid and extreme mood swings, but nothing really helps with the very unstable sense of self.

    Hypothesis: for the nonfetishistic trans people, the transwomen are trying to escape intrasex competition, and the trans men are trying to escape the Male Gaze one used to hear so much about.

    Saw a trans woman attacking JK Rawlings on Twitter with the handle FirstName “Sexy Legs” LastName? Gee, I wonder if he’s a breast man, an ass man, or a… Anyway, he was defending the police practice of considering trans women who raped women as female. They used their you-know-whats to rape their victims, of course. More than likely, they raped poor lesbians whom they bullied into fooling around. Think JK Rowling’s Tweet on the matter was discussed here, actually.

    I can almost see that the police practice is reasonable. If you want the cops to find a trans woman, you don’t say “watch out for this man,” but you don’t say “watch out for this woman.” The reasonable thing to do is to say “watch out for this trans woman.” It’s like the trolley problem. You don’t aim the trolley towards fewer people, you try to stop the trolley and yell “get off the tracks. Trolley’s coming!”

    on “Sexy Legs”, actual women on Twitter don’t seem to ever reference how sexy a particular body part of theirs is in their handle. Maybe because real women are lower self-esteem and are more self-critical than men?

    Replies: @Art Deco

    All(?) schizophrenics are classed as disabled after a while.

    No. Per Fuller Torrey, about 1/3 of people suffering schizophreniform breakdowns recover (more-or-less) and get on with life, albeit are commonly not as high functioning as before. I’m acquainted with one who has had four breakdowns and is still working. I think if it hits you later in life and you’re already established in some trade, you have better prospects. (Per Torrey, sudden-onset and paranoia are also good signs).

  113. @AnotherDad
    @Joe Stalin

    Both of them are laughably bad food.

    Pretty much anyone whipping up a batch of chocolate chips, blows lame junk like Oreos out of the water.

    Replies: @Alden, @Art Deco

    Need to be sparing with carbs. Spend your carb budget on the good stuff, and that’s not Hydrox or Oreos. The good stuff would be the bagged large-sized Pepperidge Farms or the Walker’s shortbread.

  114. @al gore rhythms
    @JimDandy

    So just get a sex change back. After all, a man without a dick is still going to be better at pretending to be a man with a dick than he is pretending to be a woman with a vagina.

    Do you think post-op trannies ever get phantom limb syndrome from their missing penises?

    Replies: @JimDandy

    I never thought about it, but now I will. I hate you.

  115. @JohnnyWalker123
    https://twitter.com/jaketapper/status/1471879765590171654

    Replies: @Ghost of Bull Moose, @Prester John

    Leave it to The Don to get under the skin of the likes of Jake Tap Tap. Earth to Tap Tap: Get on with your life! Most of the country doesn’t give a rat’s ass one way or the other.

  116. @Paperback Writer
    Here's another reason why "Black" to describe black people is stupid.

    In a Facebook Live video taken between the killings, Black, who is from the 7600 block of Ironworks Way in Hanover, stood outside an apartment building in Columbia’s Kings Contrivance neighborhood where he says he’s upset about custody issues with both women.

    Court records show the Blacks have been tangled in a custody battle since July 2018. There have been filings nearly every month throughout the past three years, with the most recent one being filed Tuesday. Both Wendy and Rajaee Black worked as certified registered nurse anesthetists, helping administer the proper doses of anesthesia for surgeries and other procedures such as epidurals.
     

    https://www.baltimoresun.com/news/crime/bs-md-cr-murder-suicide-follow-20211212-wckpf2qcbrdp7ehvxddfourwlu-story.html

    It's visually confusing.

    BTW, I feel qualified sympathy for Black (the man). Not defending him but custody battles can drive people crazy. Crazy in the demotic sense so spare me the cheap shots. There have been white men who have done the same. And he killed himself so he was genuinely desperate.

    What he did to his kids is unforgivable though.

    Replies: @The Anti-Gnostic

    The Wagner-Rhoden feud, culminating in the Wagners massacring everyone in the Rhoden clan who could potentially get custody of the child at the center of the dispute, strikes me as the Mother of all Custody Fights.

    I’m surprised Steve hasn’t delved into that case. Maybe I’m naive, but it strikes me as a really shocking breakdown in norms among otherwise comparatively functional American lumpenproles. Lots of Charles Murray/iSteve-y stuff to consider. I don’t think white-American Fishtown has slid into home with black and Native lumpenproles yet, but it’s rounding second and sprinting hard.

  117. I don’t think white-American Fishtown has slid into home with black and Native lumpenproles yet, but it’s rounding second and sprinting hard.

    Check out Katie Bryant’s brood. She makes Ma Barker look wholesome.

  118. @Athenian Gentleman
    @Paperback Writer


    I’m skeptical about gay men who get married, or who “change.” That’s one part of the propaganda that I think has truth. They really cannot change.
     
    Have you considered the possibility that the reality, as so often is the case, lies somewhere between the polar extremes? That homoerotic proclivities are neither-- as the prevailing orthodoxy insists-- in all cases, without exception both innate as well as immutable; nor, as others insist, that such desires are never even partly innate, and are always (or even nearly always) fully mutable? That the reality concerning these questions may vary, even wildly, between individuals?

    As for reparative therapy (known as conversion therapy), an open but healthily skeptical attitude would seem prudent. There would seem little doubt that we need more data. But how to obtain it in the present environment? Surely, anyone who were to find any results that countered The Narrative would face severe recriminations and lose any credibility in the psychiatric or scientific that he may have had. And that is even assuming that any serious investigation that wasn't expected to get the Approved results (or even rigged to) could ever get off the ground in the first place.

    As if the obstacles enumerated above were not enough, there is the additional one that the practice (i.e., reparative therapy) is now categorically banned in at least many jurisdictions. One would presume that, as a result of this, many have taken the practice underground. The inability to regulate and oversee such purported therapy, in turn, increases the potential for abuse by unscrupulous or incompetent practitioners. Such a risk, while no doubt weaponized by enforcers of the prevailing orthodoxy, would clearly seem nonetheless all-too-real.


    The best they can do is Tim Gunn – and that’s not so bad.
     
    It might be noted that celibacy, even if the ideal alternative to the typical, hyper-promiscuous, patently degenerate, buggery-centric Gay lifestyle, is not the only alternative. There are also far safer and more hygienic non-penetrative forms of intercourse; ones consistent with an ideal of homoerotic love that does not do the violence to dignity, masculinity and anatomical integrity that the prevailing one does.

    Replies: @Paperback Writer

    I really haven’t devoted the depth of analysis to the subject you have.

    I leave that to Athenian Gentlemen.

    Whatever compromises you come up with, I suggest you leave the ladies out of it.

  119. @Alden
    @AnotherDad

    Oreos have no taste at all. And they are too dry, hard and crunchy. Maybe because of 5 years sitting in ware houses drying out.

    The best store bought cookies are sold near the cashier at 7/11 believe it or not. 2 big not dry and hard cookies in a plastic bag. Not too soft not too hard perfect Chocolate chip oatmeal meal raisin peanut butter macadamia The chocolate chips taste of chocolate not nothing like most store bought chocolate chips.

    The best way to have delicious cookies is to have daughters. And a big supply of flour sugar baking powder butter vanilla nutmeg cinnamon coconut raisins oatmeal chocolate chips nuts and mixing bowls, cookie sheets, scoops and other baking supplies. They can find the recipes on their phones.

    Replies: @Paperback Writer

    The best way to have delicious cookies is to have daughters.

    Wow, Christmas is softening the hard & argumentative hearts of Steve commenters! Love it.

    For sure, the best part of the Yuletide season is cookies. For the season, I switch away from my favorite (crispy oatmeal) to butter cookies. Eastern European cooks incorporate hard-cooked yolks into their recipes.

    You forgot cardamom. Popular in Scandinavian baking for some reason.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Paperback Writer


    ...butter cookies. Eastern European cooks incorporate hard-cooked yolks into their recipes.
     
    The Chinese do that with semi-sweet pastry. At least I think it's hard egg yolk. Maybe it's mock egg.

    You forgot cardamom. Popular in Scandinavian baking for some reason.
     
    That, and being tall and thin, are the only things they have in common with Somalis.

    (Well, those and the Danish tendency to voice consonants that English, German, and the other Nordic tongues don't. The Somali at the airport will lead you to the "diggeding gounder".)

    There are at least three Somali terms for the spice: hayl, kulayl (both apparently of Arabic origin) and karmom. They don't just eat and drink cardamom, they write odes to it, and those have to scan. Poetry is still serious business in some pockets of the world.

    Tea with Cardamom
  120. @Cloudbuster
    @Reg Cæsar

    The burgeoning German transexual movement was one of the things a group led by a certain Austrian gentleman rose to oppose. The book burnings? Books promoting that stuff were what was burned.

    Replies: @Athenian Gentleman, @Reg Cæsar

    The burgeoning German transexual movement was one of the things a group led by a certain Austrian gentleman rose to oppose.

    One might wonder just what your point, in making this rather coy comment here, was. Would any serious, reasonably well-informed individual of sound mind and decent character argue that any number of the positions taken, and arguments advanced by the Nazis were other-than reasonable, even compelling and correct?

    To defend their “solution”, however? The categorical, wholesale persecution and mass murder of an entire class of people, a class defined solely and absolutely by the immutable fact of their genealogy, a mere accident-of-birth that no individual has any control whatsoever over? Is such a defense, if not an outright championing, not just what your comment implicitly does?

    [MORE]

    Books promoting that stuff were what was burned.

    1.) Are we to understand, then, that you approve of such responses to ideas deemed unacceptable (no matter how correctly)? Do you think they are the most effective approach?

    2.) There would seem little doubt that you oppose (and most likely emphatically and categorically oppose) restrictions on so-called “hate speech”, as well all attempts at censorship of (at a minimum) views regarding the Nazis that fall outside of the Overton Window. Assuming that (a) this assumption of mine is correct, and (b) that you do, indeed, support the Nazi book burnings that you referenced above, an obvious, though probably mostly rhetorical, question would follow.

    Namely, would it not then be plainly obvious that both your opposition to censorship (when its target are ideas you support), as well as your support of censorship (when its target are ideas that you condemn), are, far from being principled positions, merely instrumental ones?

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Athenian Gentleman

    Is he being instrumental? Very well then, he is being instrumental.

  121. How long before everyone figures out that the “treatment” is a voluntary sterilization component of a eugenics program culling B-Cluster disorders.

  122. @Cloudbuster
    @Reg Cæsar

    The burgeoning German transexual movement was one of the things a group led by a certain Austrian gentleman rose to oppose. The book burnings? Books promoting that stuff were what was burned.

    Replies: @Athenian Gentleman, @Reg Cæsar

    …one of the things a group led by a certain Austrian gentleman rose to oppose.

    He also sent pink triangles to camps to shut up the ones he’d blown.

  123. @Paperback Writer
    @Alden


    The best way to have delicious cookies is to have daughters.

     

    Wow, Christmas is softening the hard & argumentative hearts of Steve commenters! Love it.

    For sure, the best part of the Yuletide season is cookies. For the season, I switch away from my favorite (crispy oatmeal) to butter cookies. Eastern European cooks incorporate hard-cooked yolks into their recipes.

    You forgot cardamom. Popular in Scandinavian baking for some reason.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    …butter cookies. Eastern European cooks incorporate hard-cooked yolks into their recipes.

    The Chinese do that with semi-sweet pastry. At least I think it’s hard egg yolk. Maybe it’s mock egg.

    You forgot cardamom. Popular in Scandinavian baking for some reason.

    That, and being tall and thin, are the only things they have in common with Somalis.

    (Well, those and the Danish tendency to voice consonants that English, German, and the other Nordic tongues don’t. The Somali at the airport will lead you to the “diggeding gounder”.)

    There are at least three Somali terms for the spice: hayl, kulayl (both apparently of Arabic origin) and karmom. They don’t just eat and drink cardamom, they write odes to it, and those have to scan. Poetry is still serious business in some pockets of the world.

    Tea with Cardamom

  124. @JimDandy
    The problem is, once they kick the drugs, then they have to comprehend the fact that they had their genitals permanently removed/mangled. It's a vicious circle.

    Replies: @al gore rhythms, @Mike Tre, @Kolya Krassotkin

    Yes, but imagine the emerging market for anti-depressants among trannies free from drugs and now forced to deal with the fact they’ve had themselves mutilated irreparably. And don’t overlook the new market for those new fangled suicide booths for trannies with especially bad cases of depression.

  125. @Anonymous
    Steve Sailer:

    "Transgenders Tend to Suffer Badly from Mental Illness, Autism, Drug Abuse, and HIV"

    Maybe the reason for that is the way that conservative society treats them historically, you know, like Human scum? Which in turn leads them to drug asbuse, etc.

    It's funny that right-wing conservatives like you mistreat and disenfranchise people for who they are, and then when they show disabilitiesa and lash out because of it, you blame them for it. I've never seen such callous disregard for other human beings like this.

    You want to talk about mental illness, so let's talk about mentall illness. I think right-wing conservatives suffer from the mental illness of psychopathy. That would explain how you can so utterly disregard the needs of a significant fraction of the population(gays, transgenders, ethnic minorities, etc). Discriminating people because of the color of their skin, something that they have no control over, or their sexual orientation, when having one's sexuality validated is essential for a person's emotional well-being. But you only validate the sexuality of people if it is for breeding.

    The other mental illness that right-wingers suffer from is psychosis. Being a right-winger correlates very strongly to gathering at a place and worshipping an imaginary being no one has ever seen and for which there is no evidence of it's existence.

    And the worst part is the cognitive and moral disonance. Because these right-wingers claim to follow the teachings of a man that told them to turn the other cheek, a man that embraced prostitutes and thieves, a man that told them that it's easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich person to get into God's kingdom, etc.

    Jesus: "Turn the other cheek." ----> Right-wing Christian conservatives: Bigggest supporters of capital punishment

    Jesus: "it's easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich person to get into God's kingdom." ---------> Right wing conservatives: biggest supporters of big business

    Jesus: "“If you want to be perfect, go and sell all your possessions and give the money to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven." Right-wing conservatives: huge supporters of private property and hate welfare for the poor.

    Jesus: Luke 7 36-50: Jesus embraces the prostitute that washes his feet with her tears and then dries them with her hair. Right-wing conservative Christians: are full of hatred for all"deviants", and just for anyone who is different from themselves in general, such as having a different skin color or even a different lifestyle.

    I love the moral disonance of right-wing conservatives who call themselves Christians. Jesus was a liberal, and would have despised you. Well, Jesus would not despise you because he was unable to despise anyone, but he certainly would not approve of your prejudiced, discriminatory view of the World which is extremely antithetical to hsi teachings. Christians? You guys are more along the Pharisees that crucified Jesus! *That* is who you are.

    So to recapitulate the mental illnesses of the Right: a tendency towards psychopathy as well as psychosis("The government is coming for my guns!" "Vaccines are a plan by Bill Gates f0r World control!", "9/11 was an inside job!"), absolute moral disonance, living lifestyles that are the extreme polar opposites of the teachings of the founder of the religion that they claim to follow("FK the poor! "Fry criminals in the electric chair", "I will shoot anyone that enters my propert!")

    Replies: @Daniel H, @Bardon Kaldian, @John Regan, @ic1000, @Kolya Krassotkin

    No, don’t tell me. Let me guess: You had your dick cut off, and you now regret it?

  126. I’m totally befuddled. I don’t know why anyone would think transgenders have mental issues.

    https://nymag.com/intelligencer/article/gabriel-mac-essay.html

    Growing up without one, I’d thought or maybe convinced myself that mine would grow in later — to the extent that when I see a woman in tight pants, I still often instinctively think, Where is her penis? —

  127. @Athenian Gentleman
    @Cloudbuster


    The burgeoning German transexual movement was one of the things a group led by a certain Austrian gentleman rose to oppose.
     
    One might wonder just what your point, in making this rather coy comment here, was. Would any serious, reasonably well-informed individual of sound mind and decent character argue that any number of the positions taken, and arguments advanced by the Nazis were other-than reasonable, even compelling and correct?

    To defend their "solution", however? The categorical, wholesale persecution and mass murder of an entire class of people, a class defined solely and absolutely by the immutable fact of their genealogy, a mere accident-of-birth that no individual has any control whatsoever over? Is such a defense, if not an outright championing, not just what your comment implicitly does?

    Books promoting that stuff were what was burned.
     
    1.) Are we to understand, then, that you approve of such responses to ideas deemed unacceptable (no matter how correctly)? Do you think they are the most effective approach?

    2.) There would seem little doubt that you oppose (and most likely emphatically and categorically oppose) restrictions on so-called "hate speech", as well all attempts at censorship of (at a minimum) views regarding the Nazis that fall outside of the Overton Window. Assuming that (a) this assumption of mine is correct, and (b) that you do, indeed, support the Nazi book burnings that you referenced above, an obvious, though probably mostly rhetorical, question would follow.

    Namely, would it not then be plainly obvious that both your opposition to censorship (when its target are ideas you support), as well as your support of censorship (when its target are ideas that you condemn), are, far from being principled positions, merely instrumental ones?

    Replies: @Anonymous

    Is he being instrumental? Very well then, he is being instrumental.

  128. …and let us not forget that Transgender pioneer, Ted Kaczynski. Transferred from Supermax, at age 79, to another prison medical facility in order to put the finishing touches on his transgender transition. Hopefully the Federal government will pay for a shave, facial that is.

    P.S. – while we are on the Unabomber subject, offering gratitude to the Unabomber’s brother who turned him in after 15 years of FBI failure, thank you Unabrother for saving innocent lives.

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