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James Morris (1926-2020), later Jan Morris, was likely the greatest travel writer in the English language of his generation.

Morris on Everest with Hillary

As the only reporter on Everest with Hillary, he brought down Fleet Street’s scoop of the century on the morning of the Queen’s coronation in 1953. Three years later, he broke the news that the French air force (and, by implication, the British as well) were colluding with the Israelis to attack the Egyptians in the 1956 Suez War, a historic scandal that brought down Prime Minister Anthony Eden.

Morris went on to write dozens of superb travel and history books, often romanticizing the British Empire. He was a model of Tory masculine glamor: handsome and 6’4″, a British Army officer at the end of WWII, a war correspondent, and a superb prose stylist.

He was also likely the first already famous person to undergo a sex change operation, and was ever after known as Jan Morris.

I read his memoir Conundrum in 1994, figuring it would be informative in a Tiresias-sort of way about sex differences.

Instead, it was unintentionally revealing about transgenderism. He mentioned that since he’d started taking estrogen, he paid more attention to fabrics when shopping, but that was it. Basically, Morris sounded in his own memoir like he’d always been a highly masculine guy and still was, even after the hormones and surgery.

Morris begins his memoir:

I was three or perhaps four years old when I realized that I had been born into the wrong body, and should really be a girl. I remember the moment well, and it is the earliest memory of my life.

But there’s nothing after that to document that assertion. Morris was about as much of a little girl on the inside as, say, David Niven, whom he rather resembled in nature and nurture.

So that was the beginning of my skepticism about transgenderism.

Now his daughter has written a tell-all about Morris for the Times of London:

Jan Morris was a trans pioneer — and a cruel parent

The reporter and travel writer’s gender reassignment caused a sensation in the 1970s, but at home she refused to answer her children’s questions. The Jan they knew was neglectful, bullying and sexist, writes her daughter Suki Morys

Saturday December 10 2022, 6.00pm GMT, The Sunday Times

I’m going to skip over a lot of the personal resentments of the daughter, but know that Morris left her and her four kids out of his will. Maybe he had a good reason, though? So I don’t pay that much attention to celebrity family drama of the Joan Crawford “no wire coat hangers” sort: you can never tell whether you’ve got the full story or not.

… I have only one vision of my father as a man. A memory of looking through a window and him walking up and down behind a lawnmower on our large lawn, whistling. It’s a vision I cherish because it seems so calm and gentle and homely; just a vision of normality. Things were about to change, though.

The transition started in 1964, when, after meeting Dr Harry Benjamin, an endocrinologist and an early researcher into transgender people, she began taking strong female hormone pills. Her final operation took place in 1972, when I was eight. It’s difficult to differentiate between the transition itself and other influences that moulded my life, but I do know that, despite the transition, not because of it, Jan had a huge effect on me.

The first time I knew of anything unusual, I was sitting on a sofa in our house in north Wales. I don’t remember my father being there, but I was about five or six, so he could well have been. I was told that I mustn’t call my father “Daddy” any more, but must call him “Jan”. I piped up that Jan was a woman’s name and was immediately told that in Scandinavia the name is used for both men and women. That is true, and is presumably why “Jan” was originally decided upon.

That is all I was told. Whenever I called “Daddy”, there would be no answer, and slowly the word was lost from my repertoire. …

My mother effectively became a single parent to me. All my brothers were away, and Jan only visited at weekends. …

Gradually the hormones changed Jan’s body. She had rhinoplasty, and I recall kissing her nose gently while her face was plastered up. By then she was dressing in women’s clothes, and I was embarrassed by the awful dress sense more than anything else. I never felt any femininity in her.

Me neither.

I was totally bemused by it all but, as children do, just accepted it. There was never a moment when she was a man and then suddenly a woman; it was a gradual process. It is to my mother’s great credit that she never conveyed any worry or pain during what must have been an extraordinarily difficult time for her.

So my memories of Jan are nearly all of her as a woman. She was quite distant, but there were moments of closeness. …

I used to worry that I might wake up one morning and want to be a man, because nothing had ever been explained. I never discussed it with my brothers.

I never looked on Jan as a parent. I had my mother, and I didn’t have a father. That was it. I was told to call her my aunt, but I never thought of her as a relative. Jan was just Jan, a rather imposing figure in my life, whom I loved but who, frankly, wasn’t very nice to me.

Through my teenage years I’m sure people at school must have known about it all, but nobody ever mentioned it to me and so I didn’t mention it. I didn’t like taking anyone to the house, partly because I was worried about their reaction to her but also because of Jan’s reaction to them. I would never know whether she was going to be downright rude, flirt in a painfully coy manner or just be totally indifferent. It was almost always very embarrassing.

As I grew older, even more confusion took hold. I read Conundrum, Jan’s memoir, which was published in 1974 and serialised in The Sunday Times, and the story didn’t quite fit for me. Now I have read more of Jan’s books, I have come to the conclusion that, other than the portrayal of place, all her accounts are pretty much fantasy. More than a little artistic licence was used in all her articles and books. She romanticises anything that is remotely emotional, because she never talked about anything emotional. Of course, this is the writer in her, but at times I feel it is so inappropriate.

In Conundrum, Jan writes about the death of my elder sister, Virginia, who died as an infant. She writes that when Virginia was in hospital, my mother and Jan lay in bed together holding hands, tears running down their faces. …

The reality, as my mother told me, was that my sister lay dying in hospital and Jan refused to go with my mother to visit her. … Jan’s words, then and ever after, completely failed to show any understanding of her pain. She had no empathy. My mother had no explanation for Jan’s behaviour.

Elsewhere in Conundrum, Jan writes that, as a four-year-old boy sitting under a piano while his mother played, he realised he “was born into the wrong body, and should really be a girl”.

When I started Conundrum, I believed that early part, but when I finished, I went back and reread that opening and didn’t believe it anymore.

I always felt it was far more likely that he thought he would like to be like his mother. His father had been gassed in the war and was to die soon. From Jan’s account he obviously had PTSD, so his mother would have been a strong role model.

There was something far more confusing, though. Jan had a very specific view of what constituted a “woman”. First, a woman should train to be a secretary, next get married, then have babies and finally look after the family. In other words, a completely sexist view. I was brought up knowing this was what was expected of me; I was given no alternatives. My mother was this character.

Quite recently, since society has shifted and gender is top of the agenda, Jan talked of how gender was fluid, but that wasn’t at all what she was talking about at that time. She specifically stated she wanted to be a woman, and she had a “sex change” so that she could be one.

M to Fs tend to hold the most ferocious sex stereotypes imaginable.

As I grew older, I couldn’t come to terms with the fact that Jan wanted to be a “woman” when her view of “women” was totally the opposite of what she was. She wasn’t at all maternal; she struggled to even give her own children a hug, stiffening to a board when we tried. She couldn’t cook, I never saw her clean anything and she certainly didn’t want to stay at home and be with her family. She disliked the very idea of “family”. The honest fact is that she didn’t want to be a woman, at least not the way she saw women. And still I couldn’t talk to her about it all; I just got shut down.

What did she want to be? I believe she wanted to be someone totally different from anyone else, a woman who was the centre of attention because of her difference. She was no ordinary woman, as she believed the rest of us were. She was always talked about, always put on some pedestal. Her ego was massive, with people constantly rubbing it. She was a woman who enjoyed being in a man’s world because she stood out. I can’t blame her for that, but Jan certainly did absolutely nothing for womankind. Think of what she could have done; and, if she hadn’t wanted that role, fine, but at least bring your only daughter up to believe she could do anything at all, and praise her for doing so. Instead, she did the opposite.

 
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  1. Basically, a fetishist whose life revolved around the fetish.

    • Replies: @Bill Jones
    @Bardon Kaldian

    But Steve is right about the great writer piece. The eponymous photo of Fisher's Face really is something.
    Every characteristic hinted at here becomes more developed with age.

    https://i.gr-assets.com/images/S/compressed.photo.goodreads.com/books/1347843832l/1382803.jpg


    Wouldn't trust the guy as far as I could throw him.

    Replies: @PiltdownMan

    , @James N. Kennett
    @Bardon Kaldian


    Basically, a fetishist whose life revolved around the fetish.
     
    From the article:


    What did she want to be? I believe she wanted to be someone totally different from anyone else, a woman who was the centre of attention because of her difference. She was no ordinary woman, as she believed the rest of us were. She was always talked about, always put on some pedestal. Her ego was massive, with people constantly rubbing it. She was a woman who enjoyed being in a man’s world because she stood out.
     

     
    A precise description of The Man Who Would Be Queen.
    , @Chrisnonymous
    @Bardon Kaldian

    The fetish argument doesn't really cut it for me. Crossdressing has been a thing for a long time, but usually associated with being the receptive sexual partner for men, as is the phenomenon of transsexualism in places like Thailand, India, and Brazil, where it has been established longer.

    As far as I can tell, these macho late-life transitions are not really all about acting out the female role in sexual encounters. Often, they don't even bother to try to make themselves femininely sexy-looking, which crossdressing gays and 3rd world ladyboys almost always do (even if they fail at it).

    I think there's some other brain problem, although I'll be darned if I can say what it is.

    Replies: @John Johnson, @Anonymous

  2. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11527307/Ex-Navy-SEAL-transitioned-male-female-says-hes-transitioning-BACK.html?ito=native_share_article-top

    I’ve gone from genuine tolerance of these creatures to a profound aversion to them. This has less to do with the physical aspects of their transition, ridiculous and unseemly though they are, than it does with disgust at their arrogance. You don’t get to become whoever or whatever you want to be merely by deciding that’s who or what you are. And you don’t get to demand that others kowtow to you by treating your laughable delusions as if they were facts.

    I don’t wish any of these self-mutilating freaks well.

    • Replies: @AndrewR
    @Kylie

    I'd have more sympathy for the regime narrative about transgenderism if they also allowed transracialism. But despite constantly telling us that race is only a "social construct," they clearly have very essentialist views about race.

    Replies: @Kylie, @Colin Wright

    , @Bill Jones
    @Kylie

    I agree,

    There is a word for people who live in a world separate from reality, Insane.

    The same word applies to those who treat their delusions as real.

    , @anonymous
    @Kylie

    Agree. No different than if he had dressed himself as a king in regal garb, and expected to be treated as such, addressed not as "mister" but as "your highness."

    It's diabolical narcissism, especially the callous indifference to his daughter calling "daddy."

    , @AnotherDad
    @Kylie


    I’ve gone from genuine tolerance of these creatures to a profound aversion to them. This has less to do with the physical aspects of their transition, ridiculous and unseemly though they are, than it does with disgust at their arrogance. You don’t get to become whoever or whatever you want to be merely by deciding that’s who or what you are. And you don’t get to demand that others kowtow to you by treating your laughable delusions as if they were facts.
     
    Spot on Kylie. Arrogance.

    The whole story is just family abuse. But I thought this was the key bit:

    The reality, as my mother told me, was that my sister lay dying in hospital and Jan refused to go with my mother to visit her. … Jan’s words, then and ever after, completely failed to show any understanding of her pain. She had no empathy.
     

    Basically, these people are sociopaths. Extremely narcissistic sociopaths.

    The whole story here is complete disregard for the interest of his (its) family, to feed its overweening ego. The family would have been much better off if this POS just killed itself, left. Left them alone to get on with it. But it needed a stage and the family were props to be abused.

    In a sane society we'd just immediately expel such POS.

    But no ... they are a minority! And minorities are special. The rest of us must live our lives to support minorities, give them stuff and make sure their oh-so-special feelings are never, ever hurt.

    , @Prester John
    @Kylie

    To this crowd mere "toleration" no longer cuts it.

    From deviancy and freakdom to celebrity--all within a span of 50 years or so. How the worm has turned!

    A symptom of a society plunging headlong into the abyss.

    , @Anonymous
    @Kylie

    Any of them embracing it publicly is waging war on all that is good and must be CRUSHED.
    That said, most of these people have been abused and misled horribly by others.
    When they surrender unconditionally to truth and take up the active fight againt their abusers, wish them the best.
    IMO.

    , @Edward Dett
    @Kylie

    Agree. A point I'd like to add to this public square is an examination of the verb to identify as. This word shows up in "debates" on and with trans people. It is taken as synonymous with to prove to be, which in terms of traditional dictionary definitions, verbal logic, and empirical evidence, it is not.

    Clearing up this definitional matter would set the stage for arguing down this huge mistake that continues to harm people and children. T-g'nd'rism is predicated on the ideology that reality is whatever the most powerful say it is, a social construct. As I contemplate the mess we live in now in the West, deposing these beliefs will take an effort more at deprogramming brainwashing than just winning arguments and believing that psychological counseling will effect a Hail-Mary breakthrough by evoking shame or some dawn of conscience.

    Replies: @Kylie

  3. James/Jan Morris was a superb travel writer, and a pretty good historian and biographer, too.

    I’ve read his Hong Kong, which is first rate, as is his biography of Edwardian era British admiral, Jacky Fisher, titled Fisher’s Face, and his Pax Britannica trilogy, a history of the British Empire.

    Jacky Fisher was the admiral responsible for modernizing the Royal Navy prior to WWI, and the book is a remarkable character study.

    I recommend all three, but the first two really showcase Morris’s writing talent.

    • Thanks: Chrisnonymous
    • Replies: @HammerJack
    @PiltdownMan

    https://i.imgur.com/lk6uogY.jpg

    Looks like Michael Palin as a pepperpot.


    He mentioned that since he’d started taking estrogen, he paid more attention to fabrics when shopping, but that was it.
     
    LOL. I couldn't agree more with Kylie just above. I'm sick and tired of these freaks and their perverted obsessions, and I resolutely refuse to call them anything but it.

    Might have been able to forgive and ignore, at one point, but they've crossed an unforgivable line by promoting the mangling of children.

    For that, anyone and everyone involved deserves to burn in hell for all eternity and I hope we have fusion reactors to provide unlimited heating for the purpose. I hope I've made myself clear on this.

    Replies: @Danindc, @Anonymous

    , @Auld Alliance
    @PiltdownMan

    I read the Pax Britannica books a long time ago and the Fisher book too - all great, as you say. I think of Morris more as a historian than a travel writer too.

    Replies: @XBardon Kaldlan

  4. There is an interview on YouTube somewhere where the interviewer’s eyes are starting to glaze over as Morris tell a long and increasingly tedious anecdote. “Am I boring you?” she snaps knowing full well that the interviewer has respond with a strong disavowal.

    Quite the bitch/bastard.

    • Replies: @S Johnson
    @Bill B.

    Strongly male personalities enjoy exerting power by making others uncomfortable or forcing them to go along with absurdities. The ne plus ultra of this would seem to be dressing as a woman and having everyone else recognize your made-up identity. It’s difficult for most females, who are much more conformist, to understand why someone would ever behave like this, so they assume it must be sincere gender-related anguish and react accordingly.

    Replies: @Anonymous

  5. You don’t get to become whoever or whatever you want to be merely by deciding that’s who or what you are. And you don’t get to demand that others kowtow to you by treating your laughable delusions as if they were facts.

    Trans takes narcissism to a whole ‘nother level.

    That’s why it’s celebrated by progressives. Narcissism is at the core of their faith. We used to call it pride.

    • Agree: Muggles
    • Thanks: Kylie
    • Replies: @Twinkie
    @Bill P

    Yup. That was my impression - a mentally ill narcissist. To a great degree, this narcissism is the opposite of love, which ought to be the highest of human ideals. And love, of course, is the selfless giving of oneself to others, which, among women, is best expressed through the giving of life to her offspring (even at the risk of her own life) and caring for them - in other words, motherhood. “Trans women” grotesquely pervert this ideal and disfigure the very definition of womanhood into a warped imitation of the feminine physical form and the complete absence of what really makes for a woman spiritually.

    Replies: @Bill P, @AnotherDad

    , @mc23
    @Bill P


    Narcissism is at the core of their faith. We used to call it pride.
     
    Great observation. To me it makes more sense out of the mindset, maybe more useful as a diagnostic measure all well.
    , @John Johnson
    @Bill P

    Trans takes narcissism to a whole ‘nother level.

    There is a new trend in trannyland that so far hasn't be picked up by anyone including alt-right. It's very politically incorrect as it undermines preexisting narratives.

    Men are taking hormones and not even bothering to act like women. They grow boobs and then get offended if someone calls them a sir.

    They don't claim to be women and get offended by that suggestion as well. There is also no indication that they want sexual relations with men.

    It appears entirely as an act of attention seeking and not much different than tongue splitting or those stupid horn implants.

    Complete narcissism and celebrated by society. Sounds like most of them are like the gamestop sir I mean ma'am.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ArM2KKAf6vE

  6. @PiltdownMan
    James/Jan Morris was a superb travel writer, and a pretty good historian and biographer, too.

    I've read his Hong Kong, which is first rate, as is his biography of Edwardian era British admiral, Jacky Fisher, titled Fisher's Face, and his Pax Britannica trilogy, a history of the British Empire.

    Jacky Fisher was the admiral responsible for modernizing the Royal Navy prior to WWI, and the book is a remarkable character study.

    I recommend all three, but the first two really showcase Morris's writing talent.

    https://i.imgur.com/lk6uogY.jpg

    Replies: @HammerJack, @Auld Alliance


    Looks like Michael Palin as a pepperpot.

    He mentioned that since he’d started taking estrogen, he paid more attention to fabrics when shopping, but that was it.

    LOL. I couldn’t agree more with Kylie just above. I’m sick and tired of these freaks and their perverted obsessions, and I resolutely refuse to call them anything but it.

    Might have been able to forgive and ignore, at one point, but they’ve crossed an unforgivable line by promoting the mangling of children.

    For that, anyone and everyone involved deserves to burn in hell for all eternity and I hope we have fusion reactors to provide unlimited heating for the purpose. I hope I’ve made myself clear on this.

    • Agree: TWS, RadicalCenter
    • Thanks: Kylie
    • Replies: @Danindc
    @HammerJack

    Where do you run across these wackos? I have designed my life so I’ve never even met any gay men. It’s fun to laugh at them on Twitter but you should never put yourself in a position to interact with them. You should’ve planned better.

    Replies: @Renard, @John Johnson

    , @Anonymous
    @HammerJack


    Might have been able to forgive and ignore, at one point, but they’ve crossed an unforgivable line by promoting the mangling of children.

    For that, anyone and everyone involved deserves to burn in hell for all eternity and I hope we have fusion reactors to provide unlimited heating for the purpose. I hope I’ve made myself clear on this.
     
    No forgiveness. And it's not just them. We already knew how immoral and cruel activists were. It's the normies who have supported this, or at least tolerated it, these last few years that have truly made me hate humankind. This butchery is so blindingly obvious in its evil. And yet, people don't care, and it just keeps gathering pace and affecting younger and younger children.
  7. Had not realised that Morris was 6 feet 4. A big, er, person.

    Another off-beat character from our scptred isle is comedian (comedienne?) Eddie Izzard.

    Clearly very physically fit – marathons, lots of them – and a formidable linguist.

    And well, have a read if you do not know.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eddie_Izzard

    • Replies: @anonymous
    @Auld Alliance

    he's a great example because he was a crossdresser back when it was called that.

    he didn't pretend he was a woman. you watch his comedy special "dressed to kill" and he acknowledges he's into it dressing up but he in no way tries to convince you he's not a man. you forget about it during most of the stand-up.

    he's into women and would clearly never get bottom surgery.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TjC3R6jOtUo

    , @James N. Kennett
    @Auld Alliance


    Had not realised that Morris was 6 feet 4. A big, er, person.
     
    It is sad to see a M2F transgender person who was previously a tall man with a stocky build. They have no chance of ever becoming a convincing woman, and it is highly likely that their friends, family, and doctors told them so before they transitioned.

    Eddie Izzard is weird in a different way. He describes himself as a "lesbian trapped in a man's body". This sounds like the self-description of an autogynephiliac.

    Replies: @Curle, @YetAnotherAnon

  8. @PiltdownMan
    James/Jan Morris was a superb travel writer, and a pretty good historian and biographer, too.

    I've read his Hong Kong, which is first rate, as is his biography of Edwardian era British admiral, Jacky Fisher, titled Fisher's Face, and his Pax Britannica trilogy, a history of the British Empire.

    Jacky Fisher was the admiral responsible for modernizing the Royal Navy prior to WWI, and the book is a remarkable character study.

    I recommend all three, but the first two really showcase Morris's writing talent.

    https://i.imgur.com/lk6uogY.jpg

    Replies: @HammerJack, @Auld Alliance

    I read the Pax Britannica books a long time ago and the Fisher book too – all great, as you say. I think of Morris more as a historian than a travel writer too.

    • Agree: Hypnotoad666
    • Replies: @XBardon Kaldlan
    @Auld Alliance

    Well sir,by a funny coincidence,I read Conundrum many years ago,probably in the 80s. It just happened to be displayed on a rack at some long gone bookstore/ porn shop.
    I seem to recall being very interested in his male life; the female,not so much.
    The only solid memory I have of this weird book is that it failed to encourage much sympathy for or belief in transex.
    The only one I was aware of,besides " Jan",was of course Christine Jorgensen. We were blessedly short on trannies in those days.

    Replies: @Rohirrimborn

  9. OT: Person (I think female) named Nayyera Haq tells us “Zelenskyy is now stuck in the unenviable position of selling democracy to American leaders who no longer want it.”

    https://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/amp/rcna60647

    On topic: making it to the summit of Everest was the “scoop of the century”? Wow

    • Replies: @anonymous
    @AndrewR

    There was an approximately 150 year period where English money and English rich people were on the spot for more geographical and expensive sporting occasions than those from other countries - started with Byron swimming the Hellespont before it was trashed, and basically ended in the 1950s as the victors of WWII aged out of being young and on the spot for such things.
    Morris was one of the last of these guys, and that tall mountain in the Himalayas was and is an interesting place, and as such he is still talked about.
    There was a similar period in the ancient world where it was Athenians who cataloged the unusual places, and later on Romans.
    In the Orient, it was the Chinese and, to a lesser extent, the Koreans. But it comes and goes.

    Replies: @AndrewR

    , @PiltdownMan
    @AndrewR

    A commonly used term in decades past in the 20th century, here and in the British newspapers aka "Fleet Street."


    John Morris's report was widely referred to as the "Scoop of the Century" over there back then. As it happens, the BBC has a story airing online about Morris's scoop airing in three weeks time, after January 5th.


    The Crowning of Everest

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m001gl6v

    https://i.imgur.com/FcKftEO.jpg
     

    Replies: @AndrewR

  10. @Kylie
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11527307/Ex-Navy-SEAL-transitioned-male-female-says-hes-transitioning-BACK.html?ito=native_share_article-top

    I've gone from genuine tolerance of these creatures to a profound aversion to them. This has less to do with the physical aspects of their transition, ridiculous and unseemly though they are, than it does with disgust at their arrogance. You don't get to become whoever or whatever you want to be merely by deciding that's who or what you are. And you don't get to demand that others kowtow to you by treating your laughable delusions as if they were facts.

    I don't wish any of these self-mutilating freaks well.

    Replies: @AndrewR, @Bill Jones, @anonymous, @AnotherDad, @Prester John, @Anonymous, @Edward Dett

    I’d have more sympathy for the regime narrative about transgenderism if they also allowed transracialism. But despite constantly telling us that race is only a “social construct,” they clearly have very essentialist views about race.

    • Agree: Renard
    • Replies: @Kylie
    @AndrewR

    "I’d have more sympathy for the regime narrative about transgenderism if they also allowed transracialism."

    Point taken but you are more generous than I. I won't have any sympathy for them regardless but I would have less contempt. Maybe.

    Bottom lines for these carnival freaks is this:
    "The rules are what we say they when we say they are, subject to change without notice. The only constant is that we are always right and you are always wrong."

    Eff them all.

    , @Colin Wright
    @AndrewR

    'I’d have more sympathy for the regime narrative about transgenderism if they also allowed transracialism. But despite constantly telling us that race is only a “social construct,” they clearly have very essentialist views about race.'

    Oh, I dunno. Take Susan Rice.

    Or take Kamala Harris. I make her as half Indian, about three-eighths white, and about one-eighth black. Yet she is 'black.' After all, she'd hardly have been chosen to be Vice President if it had been decided she was Indian, or white.

    It's actually an irony. For all the carrying on about privileging blacks, damned few 100% black blacks ever benefit. All the bennies go to all these mulatto creatures, usually from middling to privileged backgrounds to begin with. Take Obama: half-white, went to the most exclusive private school in Hawaii, from there to private colleges, finishing up at Harvard.

    Yep: a real latter-day Up from Slavery. There might or might not be an argument for helping actual blacks. I don't think there is, but I understand the position. But why on earth should people who have a pretty good start in life to begin with, are only debatably 'black,' and have never been held down in any way get put on the magic escalator?

    Not only is it all a lot of crap, but it's almost invariably a lie to begin with. None of these people are oppressed anything. Clarence Thomas stands out as the exception who proves the rule. He's about the only actual black in the bunch -- and sure enough. He may not be an intellectual star in our firmament, but at least he's not a lying pain in the ass.

    Replies: @Truth, @SF, @Reg Cæsar, @AndrewR

  11. James Morris (1926-2020), later Jan Morris, was likely the greatest travel writer in the English language of his generation.

    I doubt it. How good can you really be, if you become totally bonkers and think you can “turn into a woman”? It shows a total detachment from objective reality, which doesn’t sound good for a travel writer. Never read him, never will.

    • Replies: @Renard
    @Dumbo

    Yeah, somehow I think I can forego the pleasure. Life's short and we must perforce be selective in our entertainments.

  12. @Bill P

    You don’t get to become whoever or whatever you want to be merely by deciding that’s who or what you are. And you don’t get to demand that others kowtow to you by treating your laughable delusions as if they were facts.
     
    Trans takes narcissism to a whole 'nother level.

    That's why it's celebrated by progressives. Narcissism is at the core of their faith. We used to call it pride.

    Replies: @Twinkie, @mc23, @John Johnson

    Yup. That was my impression – a mentally ill narcissist. To a great degree, this narcissism is the opposite of love, which ought to be the highest of human ideals. And love, of course, is the selfless giving of oneself to others, which, among women, is best expressed through the giving of life to her offspring (even at the risk of her own life) and caring for them – in other words, motherhood. “Trans women” grotesquely pervert this ideal and disfigure the very definition of womanhood into a warped imitation of the feminine physical form and the complete absence of what really makes for a woman spiritually.

    • Replies: @Bill P
    @Twinkie


    To a great degree, this narcissism is the opposite of love, which ought to be the highest of human ideals.
     
    My recent thinking on it is that it's an inversion of the proper relationship we should have with ourselves. We should love ourselves, but in the way a parent loves a child. If instead we put our "I" at the service of our "self" it leads to all sorts of disorder and deviation from truth, just as it would if a parent allowed a small child to be his/her master.

    I think this happens when people are unaware, or only dimly aware, that there is a distinction between the I and the self because of some developmental failure. The mature sense that "I must control myself" is replaced by a sense that all control is being imposed by some external nemesis, such as "society," "the patriarchy," "white supremacy," "heteronormativity" etc. So therefore whatever the selfish desire may be, no matter how vile or preposterous, any check on it is purely due to external tyranny that must be destroyed.

    Replies: @Twinkie

    , @AnotherDad
    @Twinkie


    To a great degree, this narcissism is the opposite of love, which ought to be the highest of human ideals.
     
    Terrific sentence Twinkie.

    Yeah, even allowing for "damaged daughter" retelling, this is a guy who basically doesn't give a shit about his family. They are props for his egotistical drama. Hideous deformed creature.

  13. From what I get out of these excerpts, James Morris’ daughter, besides resenting how this “transition” changed her childhood for the worse, cares most that her ex-Dad didn’t use his new status to help the cause of feminism. Not everybody, or pretty much not ANYBODY, can be a secretary anymore, but the rest of Mr. Morris’ views on female roles is traditionally conservative.

    I.e, it sounds like this daughter did not have the courage and/or wisdom to actually criticize the whole idea of transitioning. She’s just pissed that her famous Dad didn’t help out the feminazis.

    … or, maybe she knows how resentful her former Dad was about how his ex-brother Uncle Mark, now his ex-sister Marsha, turned out much better, with more rounded breasts and nice long blond straight hair. Why is it always Marsha, Marsha, Marsha?!

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Achmed E. Newman

    She has every right to point out the pervert's hypocrisy. Having a conservative idea of what a woman is, not trying to conform to it whatsoever, yet still demanding everyone else call you a woman and kowtow to you and your fetish, with zero regard to your wife and children, including a very young and confused one. The gall.

    Can't imagine the horror of growing up with a father like that. Verges on abusive, really. Scum.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

  14. The Jan they knew was neglectful, bullying and sexist, writes her daughter Suki Morys

    Sounds like she managed to be the horrible mommy anyway, so his/her operation worked part way.

    I asked a prison psychiatrist who his real hard cases were. The answers were uniform and bleak “Cold mommy who calls the shots in the family. Distant or nonexistent father. Mommy always belittled the boys and blamed them for everything, crushing their self-image. With no man to counterbalance it, the guys spent their lives taking revenge on the world. And they go nuts.”

    • Thanks: mc23
    • Replies: @Renard
    @Franz

    This explains ten million ghetto thugs.

    , @SFG
    @Franz

    Believable, though it’s interesting how hard the left loves to push the idea that boys are better off without fathers because they lack masculine role models.

    , @Wokechoke
    @Franz

    Aye. That's true.

  15. @Kylie
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11527307/Ex-Navy-SEAL-transitioned-male-female-says-hes-transitioning-BACK.html?ito=native_share_article-top

    I've gone from genuine tolerance of these creatures to a profound aversion to them. This has less to do with the physical aspects of their transition, ridiculous and unseemly though they are, than it does with disgust at their arrogance. You don't get to become whoever or whatever you want to be merely by deciding that's who or what you are. And you don't get to demand that others kowtow to you by treating your laughable delusions as if they were facts.

    I don't wish any of these self-mutilating freaks well.

    Replies: @AndrewR, @Bill Jones, @anonymous, @AnotherDad, @Prester John, @Anonymous, @Edward Dett

    I agree,

    There is a word for people who live in a world separate from reality, Insane.

    The same word applies to those who treat their delusions as real.

    • Agree: Clark Kent, TelfoedJohn
  16. @Bardon Kaldian
    Basically, a fetishist whose life revolved around the fetish.

    Replies: @Bill Jones, @James N. Kennett, @Chrisnonymous

    But Steve is right about the great writer piece. The eponymous photo of Fisher’s Face really is something.
    Every characteristic hinted at here becomes more developed with age.

    Wouldn’t trust the guy as far as I could throw him.

    • Agree: PiltdownMan
    • Replies: @PiltdownMan
    @Bill Jones

    That badly colorized version of an old glass-plate photograph of Jacky Fisher really destroys what is a good, old school photographic portrait. In our era of grinning mugshots, it's hard to remember that people didn't routinely smile for photographs a century ago, but rather, tried to project some measure of personal dignity and gravitas. And, in the case of that formal military portrait in full uniform, I think Fisher deliberately put on his "command" face, as one might expect from an Admiral of the Fleet of the Royal Navy back then. It is easy, with modern eyes, to see dishonesty.

    https://i.imgur.com/9fsfbM0.jpg

    Fisher doesn't have that expression in most other pictures.

    https://i.imgur.com/xRH4m2s.jpg

    Replies: @Wokechoke, @Gordo

  17. Jan Morris reviewed Patrick O’Brian’s ‘Blue at the Mizzen’ for the Observer, very positively, and part of the review ended up as a back cover blurb, on the British edition anyway.

    How much more blokey can you get?

    • Agree: PiltdownMan
  18. Travel writer? he sounds like more of a straight-up pro reporter. Travel writers don’t “break” news stories or “scoop” anybody, they invite you into some formerly undisclosed world.

    Me, I’m more of a Bruce Chatwin/Redmond O’Hanlon fan myself.

    MFK Fisher’s book on Marseilles is also very good, as is all of her stuff.

    Never read any of it, but I’m told that the medieval Islamic and Chinese worlds produced a lot of good traveler’s descriptions of foreign lands and people.

    Also for a real hoot, you have to read a 19-century British militarist and imperialist’s account, “On Horseback Through Asia Minor.” It’s not just travel writing, it’s time-travel writing.

    • Thanks: kaganovitch, Chrisnonymous
    • Replies: @Jim Don Bob
    @The Germ Theory of Disease

    Paul Theroux (sp?) is good too. I've read Dark Star about his return to Africa years after being there in the Peace Corps and Riding the Iron Rooster about traveling by train in China.

    The two books saved me a lot of money because they convinced me that I never wanted to go to either place.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @Jack D, @Harry Baldwin, @YetAnotherAnon, @sb

    , @YetAnotherAnon
    @The Germ Theory of Disease

    You can find both volumes on Gutenberg - there's a trove of great Victorian/Edwardian stuff on there.

    https://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/58768

    Churchill's Malakand Field Force memoirs, North-West Frontier India

    https://www.gutenberg.org/files/9404/9404-h/9404-h.htm


    "Every influence, every motive, that provokes the spirit of murder among men, impels these mountaineers to deeds of treachery and violence. The strong aboriginal propensity to kill, inherit in all human beings, has in these valleys been preserved in unexampled strength and vigour. That religion, which above all others was founded and propagated by the sword—the tenets and principles of which are instinct with incentives to slaughter and which in three continents has produced fighting breeds of men—stimulates a wild and merciless fanaticism. The love of plunder, always a characteristic of hill tribes, is fostered by the spectacle of opulence and luxury which, to their eyes, the cities and plains of the south display. A code of honour not less punctilious than that of old Spain, is supported by vendettas as implacable as those of Corsica."

     

    One book I'd recommend on the subject of Argentina and South America back in the day is A. F. Tschiffely - "Tschiffely's Ride"

    http://www.aimetschiffely.org/tschiffelys-ride.htm

    The time was 1925. The place, Buenos Aires, Argentina. Standing on the threshold of equestrian travel history was a young Swiss Long Rider named Aimé Tschiffely. Next to him were his two faithful Criollo horses, Mancha and Gato. Their collective goal was to ride more than ten thousand miles from Buenos Aires to New York. No one had ever attempted such a journey. Everyone thought Tschiffely was mad.

    During the course of their travels Tschiffely, Mancha and Gato crossed deadly deserts, passed through jungles, traversed sky-high mountain passes - and rode on. They were assailed by vampire bats, mistaken for gods and navigated the Panama Canal - but rode on. Nothing stopped them. No one since has rivalled their accomplishments.
     
    , @Big Bill
    @The Germ Theory of Disease

    Fred Burnaby, the author of "Asia Minor" as well as "A Ride to Khiva" was a Man's Man. Tissot painted a famous and truly breathtaking portrait of him. He must have stood 6' 4" or so.

    He volunteered for the British expedition to rescue Chinese Gordon and for the Relief of Khartoum.

    Fred died fighting the Mahdi's desert troops, IIRC.

    Fred was killed in the desert in the Battle of Abu Klea, and songs were written about his tragic death.

    Quite a popular figure.

    IIRC, he also sailed over the English Channel in a balloon.

    Google "Tissot Burnaby" and look at images.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @The Germ Theory of Disease

  19. @Dumbo

    James Morris (1926-2020), later Jan Morris, was likely the greatest travel writer in the English language of his generation.

     

    I doubt it. How good can you really be, if you become totally bonkers and think you can "turn into a woman"? It shows a total detachment from objective reality, which doesn't sound good for a travel writer. Never read him, never will.

    Replies: @Renard

    Yeah, somehow I think I can forego the pleasure. Life’s short and we must perforce be selective in our entertainments.

  20. @Franz

    The Jan they knew was neglectful, bullying and sexist, writes her daughter Suki Morys
     
    Sounds like she managed to be the horrible mommy anyway, so his/her operation worked part way.

    I asked a prison psychiatrist who his real hard cases were. The answers were uniform and bleak "Cold mommy who calls the shots in the family. Distant or nonexistent father. Mommy always belittled the boys and blamed them for everything, crushing their self-image. With no man to counterbalance it, the guys spent their lives taking revenge on the world. And they go nuts."

    Replies: @Renard, @SFG, @Wokechoke

    This explains ten million ghetto thugs.

    • Agree: p38ace, Polistra
  21. The bimodal distribution of transness of these assholes and then eccentric autistic types seems to be derived from both groups having low regard for the opinions of others, both have much lower amounts of social empathy. The difference is the nerd just wants to be left alone whereas the jock assholes don’t want to be left alone, they want to dominate and harm others, to be superior to them.

    This does sometimes cause them to support similar politics (Due often to autistic nerds assuming these policies will help them and hurt the stupid kinds of people they put up with in school and both having low empathy for others), though often just allowing more ‘freedom for aggression’ by assholes such as the devastation brought to IT wages from the invention of Indian outsourcing and insourcing.

    This was pioneered by Thatcher in Britain who was appalled that working class men were able to just be trained up in these positions without lengthy and expensive education, worse they were good white collar jobs that paid well. This disgusted Thatcher who was animated by contempt and a sense of superiority over crass working class people she grew up, thinking herself above them as a grocers daughter. So she was overjoyed at the idea of beginning to import workers from India to act, essentially, as scabs. The pay these men got wasn’t disruptive, it was that they were getting it that made her mad. This desire for and contempt of, social inferiors, can be seen by many of these ‘Sailer types’.

    This does raise the question as to if these men typify the kinds of men who have this fetish/impulse or just those who go through with it. Or maybe their lack of social empathy also allows them to cultivate this thing in themselves too, to the point that they get to seriously imagining transforming into a woman?

    It’s amazing though to me that we see men and boys becoming women because they don’t care what others think or feel, a profoundly male trait and teenage girls becoming boys/men because they are so suggestible and care so much what others think, a profoundly female trait. There is no ‘social contagion’ with the MtF but there is with the FtM, the MtFs don’t care that they don’t fit in and the FtMs are desperately seeking validation and trying to fit in, only it’s pathological since they are fitting in with messed up peers. The very types of people who transition display the least similar psychologies to their professed actual sex.

    For fun some of the more amazing patterns to notice.

    [MORE]

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zoey_Tur

    Joey (Bob) Tur, is alleged by his very PC prog daughter (Who may well have inherited some of his dark traits, having had an affair with the much older Keith Olbermann and then ending it when she got hired to MSNBC…) to have been highly abusive to his family, she claims he threw batteries at her, her brother and mother when she was a child after particularly frustrating days at work.

    You might remember Tur from when he grasps the neck of and threatened to do some physical harm to Ben Shapiro during a public transgender debate. This man has a cluster B personality disorder for sure, ie, an asshole. As far as I know, he and his daughter are still estranged but his public statements also show a grandiose narcissism. He is most famous for being a ‘nightcrawler’ style helicopter pilot who would shot car chases in LA in the 90s, the most famous being the O.J. chase.

    Here he is reminiscing about filming the beating half to death of the white truck driver during the LA riots prior to becoming ‘Zoey’. See if you can detect anything about him that seems even remotely feminine.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10909885/Katy-Tur-opens-reaction-father-Zoey-Tur-coming-trans.html

    The 38-year-old recounted the 2013 call that caused the rift between her and her now-estranged father, who has never met her two children

    ‘My dad said, ”I am a woman.’ And I said ”What?” And my dad said, ”I’m a woman, I’m transitioning, I’m going to become a woman,” Katy told CBS Sunday Morning
    ‘And I remember being at first puzzled and saying, ”You gotta be joking. You’re kidding, what are you talking about?”’

    The MSNBC anchor also accused her father of throwing batteries at her, her brother and mother, and punching walls when she was growing up.

    Zoey had previously said that Katy has not spoken to her since she made the decision to transition.

    Zoey has also said in the past that she does not consider Katy as ‘transphobic.’

    ‘It’s that her hero father has become this. And it’s the fear of not fitting in. It’s the pressure of being on network television. It’s the conservatism that she’s forced to endure,’ she told The Hollywood Reporter in 2016.

    The problem she has with all this, he haughtily concludes, is that ‘Zoey’ took away her “hero father”, amazing narcissism.

    From October 2021, a puff piece in Elle Magazine on a former stereotypical ‘tech bro’ (IE, the kind who doesn’t code but does the money raising using his rich parents contacts and other VC bros, being a psychopathic seeking of money and passing snake oil) of one ‘Natalie’ Egan. Everything in the story suggests that Egan also had some cluster B personality disorder traits.

    Corporate Transition
    When presenting as a man, this “tech bro” entrepreneur was the toast of Silicon Valley—until she stepped into boardrooms as a woman.
    https://www.elle.com/life-love/a37507807/0106-0108-corporate-transition-october-2021

    That was circa 2009, when she was “an asshole and a jerk,” Egan says. But that wasn’t the only thing that was different about Egan back then: She had been assigned male at birth and raised as a boy. Married with three children, Egan took pride in her college-frat bona fides and harsh management style. She was a tech bro—a successful one, raising $7 million in investments for the tech-sales company she founded.

    In 2009, after jobs in hospitality and tech, Egan started her own business, PeopleLinx, which helped companies use LinkedIn data to sell effectively. Tech start-ups then were “this culture that was rewarding toxic masculinity,” Egan says. And she ran it the way she’d seen other men run companies. She made decisions with little input, based on the idea that “representation and diverse perspectives slow things down,” she says. “I was like, ‘Go, go, go, we don’t have time for your opinion.’ ” If someone was late to a meeting, she’d publicly embarrass them. “It was, like, chest bumps and kegs,” Egan says. “Even as the company grew, we were having arm-wrestling competitions.”

    Her executive coach then and now, Russ Rosa, describes it this way: “There was a type of bullying masculinity that Natalie had that didn’t make her very popular.” But popularity didn’t matter; winning did. The company grew to 50 employees. High-profile clients signed on. Venture capital firms speculated that this could be a billion-dollar business. But then LinkedIn changed how it allowed other companies to access its data, endangering PeopleLinx’s core business. Egan appointed a friend as CEO so she could focus on sales, but the company was circling the drain. In 2015, the new CEO fired Egan, and she had no idea how to handle it. “It was the first time I wasn’t getting what I wanted,” she says.

    None of his business ideas was productive or even worth anything just essentially scams trying to sell a solution that didn’t have a problem. The article then tries to suggest that ‘Natalie’ having a harder time after all the bad business plans and wasted VC funds is the perfect control for sexism in the corporate world. Never asked is whether poeple won’t take ‘Natalie’s’ calls because they see Egan as a woman or rather an off putting weird man dressed up as a woman in a way that has essentially no value in estimating actual sexism.

    I honestly can’t comprehend stories like this, surely none of these people read what they have submitted and don’t see it?

    And Steve covered well the father of Susan Faludi who once physically beat her for wanting to join her gentile friend at a summer camp run by church. Astonishingly she recounts laughing with her father over this horrific display of outgroup hatred and violence towards his slight per-adolescent daughter.

    https://www.unz.com/isteve/man-who-fathered-feminist-susan-faludi-is-now-woman-who-definitely-didnt-mother-her

    These guys are high functioning sociopaths.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antisocial_personality_disorder

    • Replies: @Pixo
    @Altai

    Interesting comment.

    I agree there seems to be two different types of heterosexual trannies: Macho asshole and autistic nerd. One I knew in person was a shy Aspie type computer programmer with an even shyer Asian wife who stayed with him. He “transitioned” around age 32 a few years after his normal marriage.

    Some can be both macho and autistic: like Martine Rothblatt and Dierdre McCloskey.

    Elon Musk is both a macho asshole and self identifies as having ASD. He isn’t trans (yet) but one of his sons is.

    He’s personally into transhumanism. His first five children were from IVF and embryo-selected and born as twins and triplets with his ex wife Justine. His two youngest are twins with a high-IQ Jewess he has never been in a relationship with and via IVF.

    Finally I’d like to see some evidence that Thatcher supported mass migration. Under her tenure, the UK had lower non-white migration than the US, Canada, Netherlands and Germany. Obviously still too high, but pretty low by her contemporary standards or what came later under Blair.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

  22. @Franz

    The Jan they knew was neglectful, bullying and sexist, writes her daughter Suki Morys
     
    Sounds like she managed to be the horrible mommy anyway, so his/her operation worked part way.

    I asked a prison psychiatrist who his real hard cases were. The answers were uniform and bleak "Cold mommy who calls the shots in the family. Distant or nonexistent father. Mommy always belittled the boys and blamed them for everything, crushing their self-image. With no man to counterbalance it, the guys spent their lives taking revenge on the world. And they go nuts."

    Replies: @Renard, @SFG, @Wokechoke

    Believable, though it’s interesting how hard the left loves to push the idea that boys are better off without fathers because they lack masculine role models.

  23. @Bill B.
    There is an interview on YouTube somewhere where the interviewer's eyes are starting to glaze over as Morris tell a long and increasingly tedious anecdote. "Am I boring you?" she snaps knowing full well that the interviewer has respond with a strong disavowal.

    Quite the bitch/bastard.

    Replies: @S Johnson

    Strongly male personalities enjoy exerting power by making others uncomfortable or forcing them to go along with absurdities. The ne plus ultra of this would seem to be dressing as a woman and having everyone else recognize your made-up identity. It’s difficult for most females, who are much more conformist, to understand why someone would ever behave like this, so they assume it must be sincere gender-related anguish and react accordingly.

    • Agree: TelfoedJohn
    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @S Johnson

    Right. Assholes. The kid who farts in your face and dares you to do something about it. The man who puts on female clothes and dares you to laugh. It's the same asshole mentality.

  24. @Twinkie
    @Bill P

    Yup. That was my impression - a mentally ill narcissist. To a great degree, this narcissism is the opposite of love, which ought to be the highest of human ideals. And love, of course, is the selfless giving of oneself to others, which, among women, is best expressed through the giving of life to her offspring (even at the risk of her own life) and caring for them - in other words, motherhood. “Trans women” grotesquely pervert this ideal and disfigure the very definition of womanhood into a warped imitation of the feminine physical form and the complete absence of what really makes for a woman spiritually.

    Replies: @Bill P, @AnotherDad

    To a great degree, this narcissism is the opposite of love, which ought to be the highest of human ideals.

    My recent thinking on it is that it’s an inversion of the proper relationship we should have with ourselves. We should love ourselves, but in the way a parent loves a child. If instead we put our “I” at the service of our “self” it leads to all sorts of disorder and deviation from truth, just as it would if a parent allowed a small child to be his/her master.

    I think this happens when people are unaware, or only dimly aware, that there is a distinction between the I and the self because of some developmental failure. The mature sense that “I must control myself” is replaced by a sense that all control is being imposed by some external nemesis, such as “society,” “the patriarchy,” “white supremacy,” “heteronormativity” etc. So therefore whatever the selfish desire may be, no matter how vile or preposterous, any check on it is purely due to external tyranny that must be destroyed.

    • Replies: @Twinkie
    @Bill P


    The mature sense that “I must control myself” is replaced by a sense that all control is being imposed by some external nemesis, such as “society,” “the patriarchy,” “white supremacy,” “heteronormativity” etc. So therefore whatever the selfish desire may be, no matter how vile or preposterous, any check on it is purely due to external tyranny that must be destroyed.
     
    Agree!

    We should love ourselves, but in the way a parent loves a child. If instead we put our “I” at the service of our “self” it leads to all sorts of disorder and deviation from truth, just as it would if a parent allowed a small child to be his/her master.
     
    I think I know what you mean here and tend to agree, but I do not care for this construction of "self-love." I tend to think that it's not so much that we should "love ourselves" so much as be able to accept love from others, be it from God or other human beings.

    Replies: @Bill P, @Unintended Consequence

  25. @The Germ Theory of Disease
    Travel writer? he sounds like more of a straight-up pro reporter. Travel writers don't "break" news stories or "scoop" anybody, they invite you into some formerly undisclosed world.

    Me, I'm more of a Bruce Chatwin/Redmond O'Hanlon fan myself.

    MFK Fisher's book on Marseilles is also very good, as is all of her stuff.

    Never read any of it, but I'm told that the medieval Islamic and Chinese worlds produced a lot of good traveler's descriptions of foreign lands and people.

    Also for a real hoot, you have to read a 19-century British militarist and imperialist's account, "On Horseback Through Asia Minor." It's not just travel writing, it's time-travel writing.

    Replies: @Jim Don Bob, @YetAnotherAnon, @Big Bill

    Paul Theroux (sp?) is good too. I’ve read Dark Star about his return to Africa years after being there in the Peace Corps and Riding the Iron Rooster about traveling by train in China.

    The two books saved me a lot of money because they convinced me that I never wanted to go to either place.

    • LOL: Achmed E. Newman
    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    @Jim Don Bob

    I wish more Americans could have visited China going back before the Kung Flu Panic and now the Totalitarianism of Mao II, aka, the Pooh Bear. I really enjoyed it there, Jim Don, and I bet you would have too.

    OTOH, Africa and India too, no thanks. I saw one Seinfeld episode about the latter. That was enough.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_sUMtHcUMWo

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @The Germ Theory of Disease

    , @Jack D
    @Jim Don Bob

    The Iron Rooster was a steam train that Theroux rode in 1987. Today China has high speed trains that put to shame anything that you could ride in America. In the last 35 years, China has made a century of progress (while we have mostly gone backwards) so basing your desire not to visit China on a book from 35 years ago is like basing your views of England on something that Dickens wrote.

    Right now there are lots of good reasons not to visit China but they have nothing to do with Theroux's experience in 1987. China is literally not the same country that it was 35 years ago.

    Replies: @Jim Don Bob

    , @Harry Baldwin
    @Jim Don Bob

    The two books saved me a lot of money because they convinced me that I never wanted to go to either place.

    There is a genre of travel writing whose goal seems to be to reassure non-travelers that staying at home is the right decision. I put Bill Bryson in that category. His book A Walk in the Woods persuaded me that I don't want to hike the Appalachian Trail and his book In a Sunburned Country eliminated any interest I had in visiting Australia.

    Replies: @sb, @Old Prude, @Muggles

    , @YetAnotherAnon
    @Jim Don Bob

    Always get the impression of Paul Theroux being an arrogant type.

    I presume it's his son who's made a career of persuading people to make fools of themselves (doubtless with a fair bit of editing help) in front of a camera.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    , @sb
    @Jim Don Bob

    Reading Paul Theroux always makes me contemplate the relationship between misanthropy and xenophobia

  26. @HammerJack
    @PiltdownMan

    https://i.imgur.com/lk6uogY.jpg

    Looks like Michael Palin as a pepperpot.


    He mentioned that since he’d started taking estrogen, he paid more attention to fabrics when shopping, but that was it.
     
    LOL. I couldn't agree more with Kylie just above. I'm sick and tired of these freaks and their perverted obsessions, and I resolutely refuse to call them anything but it.

    Might have been able to forgive and ignore, at one point, but they've crossed an unforgivable line by promoting the mangling of children.

    For that, anyone and everyone involved deserves to burn in hell for all eternity and I hope we have fusion reactors to provide unlimited heating for the purpose. I hope I've made myself clear on this.

    Replies: @Danindc, @Anonymous

    Where do you run across these wackos? I have designed my life so I’ve never even met any gay men. It’s fun to laugh at them on Twitter but you should never put yourself in a position to interact with them. You should’ve planned better.

    • Replies: @Renard
    @Danindc

    You live in Washington DC and never encounter any gay men? Do you stay in your basement 24/7? And is your gaydar really that foolproof??

    , @John Johnson
    @Danindc

    Where do you run across these wackos? I have designed my life so I’ve never even met any gay men. It’s fun to laugh at them on Twitter but you should never put yourself in a position to interact with them. You should’ve planned better.

    It's called working in the city.

    I was actually more liberal in my opinions of gays until working around them.

    I really imagined them to be more like the gays of sitcoms. Basically like everyone else but with one minor difference. In fact like many I assumed the stereotypes were mostly reinforced by anti-gay types.

    Then through experience I quickly learned why societies of the past learned to not encourage them.

    The men are sexually obsessed and generally uninterested in even short term relationships. They are not merely straight men unhinged. Something else is going on with their genes. They tend to be reckless and are not women in male bodies either.

    For a while I didn't think the lesbians were a problem until I saw how they would pressure and bully women that could go either way. The butch lesbians are just prison lesbians. They didn't get hit on in high school and develop an identity of rejecting men. They would sneer at me for simply talking to their wife. What are you afraid of it is all genetic? They know it isn't that simple. Lesbians are mostly rejected women. The really ugly butch ones are kept from the public eye. It is a different phenomenon compared to gay men and why the two groups don't get along.

  27. Morris was probably cross dressing starting as a teenager an that his wife knew about the issue before their marriage. When looking at biographies of women married to trans women who transitioned as adults, the wives always knew.

  28. Related, former Navy Seal and “trans” person Chris Beck (temporarily, formerly Kristin) has detransitioned.

    Compare the detransition announcement to the glowing profile in the Huffington post back in 2013. He, too, claimed that he knew as a very small child that he was in the wrong body.

    It is ridiculous and cruel to take the claims of delusional people at face value.

    Retired Navy SEAL made famous after coming out as trans announces detransition: ‘Destroyed my life’

    Kristin Beck, Transgender Navy SEAL, Comes Out In New Book

    • Agree: Polistra
  29. Purely anecdotal, but my conventional Democrat mother has recently had the scales fall from her eyes on the transgender stuff. She used to accept at face value the language around this, such as referring to Amy Schneider (MtF Jeopardy champ) as a woman, but after a few brief conversations in which she was encouraged to learn more on her own about a) the actual surgery people undergo and maintenance, b) autogynophilia, and c) the frequency of other mental disorders alongside gender dysphoria she is now totally revolted by the entire thing.

    Frankly, like a lot of stuff I think lefty adoption of pro-transgender language and politics is just political tribal signaling with the percentage that actually have some knowledge of what it all entails in the low to mid single digits. Once normie Dems are exposed to actual facts, the mind recoils. So that gives me some hope that as more facts seep into the public sphere there will be a political sea change on WWT.

    • Agree: PiltdownMan
    • Replies: @mc23
    @Arclight

    When I learned about the need for them to regularly have dilation of their artificially constructed vaginas as the body tried to heal the wound I couldn’t stop thinking, how does any medical professional go along with this.

    Replies: @Arclight

    , @AnotherDad
    @Arclight


    Frankly, like a lot of stuff I think lefty adoption of pro-transgender language and politics is just political tribal signaling with the percentage that actually have some knowledge of what it all entails in the low to mid single digits. Once normie Dems are exposed to actual facts, the mind recoils. So that gives me some hope that as more facts seep into the public sphere there will be a political sea change on WWT.
     
    I do think the tranny stuff is so dishonest, ridiculous, vile and ugly--really, really ugly--that it offers conservatives a political opportunity.

    But unless that opportunity is used to take on this whole ridiculous idea that minorities deserve attention and solicitude from normal people, or it will be a pointless victory. For any society/nation to survive the focus of the culture/norms must be for the normal people of that society to maintain and reproduce themselves. This idea that minorities deserve any solicitude from the majority, much less at the head of the queue and must be catered to is just toxic.

    Minoritarianism is what must go wholesale, with its fellow travellers, anti-nationalism, immigrationism. Immigration/borders and disgenic/eugenic fertility will decide the fate of the West. Alone this tranny garbage is just an irritant--though a particularly ugly one.

    Replies: @Bill Jones

    , @JR Ewing
    @Arclight


    Frankly, like a lot of stuff I think lefty adoption of pro-transgender language and politics is just political tribal signaling with the percentage that actually have some knowledge of what it all entails in the low to mid single digits. Once normie Dems are exposed to actual facts, the mind recoils. So that gives me some hope that as more facts seep into the public sphere there will be a political sea change on WWT.
     
    This is why Trump is such a gift to the democrats at this point. There is so much personal distaste for him in the population as a whole - some of it unfairly cultivated, some of it deserved - that "normie dems" can't get past it in order to voice their opposition to the woke nonsense. My wife, a rich white lady who could fairly be described as a "second wave feminist", said as much to me after the election: "I think I would prefer to vote for republicans on a lot of these issues now, but I just can't get past how awful Trump is."

    Frankly, I have reason to believe her. She is increasingly uncomfortable with black and minority preferences, she has concluded that unfettered immigration harms the American working class, and she very much dislikes the homosexualization of society. She is a prime "normie dem" who in the aggregate could put a stop to much of the democrat minoritarian excesses.

    But, fairly or not, the cult of Trump gets in the way and gives license to the democrats by default to keep going.

    Replies: @RadicalCenter, @Curle, @Anonymous

  30. Anonymous[718] • Disclaimer says:
    @Achmed E. Newman
    From what I get out of these excerpts, James Morris' daughter, besides resenting how this "transition" changed her childhood for the worse, cares most that her ex-Dad didn't use his new status to help the cause of feminism. Not everybody, or pretty much not ANYBODY, can be a secretary anymore, but the rest of Mr. Morris' views on female roles is traditionally conservative.

    I.e, it sounds like this daughter did not have the courage and/or wisdom to actually criticize the whole idea of transitioning. She's just pissed that her famous Dad didn't help out the feminazis.

    ... or, maybe she knows how resentful her former Dad was about how his ex-brother Uncle Mark, now his ex-sister Marsha, turned out much better, with more rounded breasts and nice long blond straight hair. Why is it always Marsha, Marsha, Marsha?!

    Replies: @Anonymous

    She has every right to point out the pervert’s hypocrisy. Having a conservative idea of what a woman is, not trying to conform to it whatsoever, yet still demanding everyone else call you a woman and kowtow to you and your fetish, with zero regard to your wife and children, including a very young and confused one. The gall.

    Can’t imagine the horror of growing up with a father like that. Verges on abusive, really. Scum.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    @Anonymous


    She has every right to point out the pervert’s hypocrisy.
     
    Sure she does. However, what's more important is to point out how stupid, weird, and arrogant* the whole "tranny" thing is to begin with. She didn't do that.

    .

    * The stupid part is the thinking that one can truly change sexes. The weird part is something we all know but is not part of the current narrative. The arrogant part is their telling us we are not to believe the whole thing is both stupid and weird.

    Replies: @Anonymous

  31. @Kylie
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11527307/Ex-Navy-SEAL-transitioned-male-female-says-hes-transitioning-BACK.html?ito=native_share_article-top

    I've gone from genuine tolerance of these creatures to a profound aversion to them. This has less to do with the physical aspects of their transition, ridiculous and unseemly though they are, than it does with disgust at their arrogance. You don't get to become whoever or whatever you want to be merely by deciding that's who or what you are. And you don't get to demand that others kowtow to you by treating your laughable delusions as if they were facts.

    I don't wish any of these self-mutilating freaks well.

    Replies: @AndrewR, @Bill Jones, @anonymous, @AnotherDad, @Prester John, @Anonymous, @Edward Dett

    Agree. No different than if he had dressed himself as a king in regal garb, and expected to be treated as such, addressed not as “mister” but as “your highness.”

    It’s diabolical narcissism, especially the callous indifference to his daughter calling “daddy.”

  32. @The Germ Theory of Disease
    Travel writer? he sounds like more of a straight-up pro reporter. Travel writers don't "break" news stories or "scoop" anybody, they invite you into some formerly undisclosed world.

    Me, I'm more of a Bruce Chatwin/Redmond O'Hanlon fan myself.

    MFK Fisher's book on Marseilles is also very good, as is all of her stuff.

    Never read any of it, but I'm told that the medieval Islamic and Chinese worlds produced a lot of good traveler's descriptions of foreign lands and people.

    Also for a real hoot, you have to read a 19-century British militarist and imperialist's account, "On Horseback Through Asia Minor." It's not just travel writing, it's time-travel writing.

    Replies: @Jim Don Bob, @YetAnotherAnon, @Big Bill

    You can find both volumes on Gutenberg – there’s a trove of great Victorian/Edwardian stuff on there.

    https://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/58768

    Churchill’s Malakand Field Force memoirs, North-West Frontier India

    https://www.gutenberg.org/files/9404/9404-h/9404-h.htm

    “Every influence, every motive, that provokes the spirit of murder among men, impels these mountaineers to deeds of treachery and violence. The strong aboriginal propensity to kill, inherit in all human beings, has in these valleys been preserved in unexampled strength and vigour. That religion, which above all others was founded and propagated by the sword—the tenets and principles of which are instinct with incentives to slaughter and which in three continents has produced fighting breeds of men—stimulates a wild and merciless fanaticism. The love of plunder, always a characteristic of hill tribes, is fostered by the spectacle of opulence and luxury which, to their eyes, the cities and plains of the south display. A code of honour not less punctilious than that of old Spain, is supported by vendettas as implacable as those of Corsica.”

    One book I’d recommend on the subject of Argentina and South America back in the day is A. F. Tschiffely – “Tschiffely’s Ride”

    http://www.aimetschiffely.org/tschiffelys-ride.htm

    The time was 1925. The place, Buenos Aires, Argentina. Standing on the threshold of equestrian travel history was a young Swiss Long Rider named Aimé Tschiffely. Next to him were his two faithful Criollo horses, Mancha and Gato. Their collective goal was to ride more than ten thousand miles from Buenos Aires to New York. No one had ever attempted such a journey. Everyone thought Tschiffely was mad.

    During the course of their travels Tschiffely, Mancha and Gato crossed deadly deserts, passed through jungles, traversed sky-high mountain passes – and rode on. They were assailed by vampire bats, mistaken for gods and navigated the Panama Canal – but rode on. Nothing stopped them. No one since has rivalled their accomplishments.

    • Thanks: AceDeuce, Kim
  33. Anonymous[299] • Disclaimer says:
    @HammerJack
    @PiltdownMan

    https://i.imgur.com/lk6uogY.jpg

    Looks like Michael Palin as a pepperpot.


    He mentioned that since he’d started taking estrogen, he paid more attention to fabrics when shopping, but that was it.
     
    LOL. I couldn't agree more with Kylie just above. I'm sick and tired of these freaks and their perverted obsessions, and I resolutely refuse to call them anything but it.

    Might have been able to forgive and ignore, at one point, but they've crossed an unforgivable line by promoting the mangling of children.

    For that, anyone and everyone involved deserves to burn in hell for all eternity and I hope we have fusion reactors to provide unlimited heating for the purpose. I hope I've made myself clear on this.

    Replies: @Danindc, @Anonymous

    Might have been able to forgive and ignore, at one point, but they’ve crossed an unforgivable line by promoting the mangling of children.

    For that, anyone and everyone involved deserves to burn in hell for all eternity and I hope we have fusion reactors to provide unlimited heating for the purpose. I hope I’ve made myself clear on this.

    No forgiveness. And it’s not just them. We already knew how immoral and cruel activists were. It’s the normies who have supported this, or at least tolerated it, these last few years that have truly made me hate humankind. This butchery is so blindingly obvious in its evil. And yet, people don’t care, and it just keeps gathering pace and affecting younger and younger children.

    • Agree: Polistra
  34. Does one write this book after the death of the subject to avoid the English legal system?

    Did the estate go to her brothers or her sperm donor’s other partners?

  35. @Bill Jones
    @Bardon Kaldian

    But Steve is right about the great writer piece. The eponymous photo of Fisher's Face really is something.
    Every characteristic hinted at here becomes more developed with age.

    https://i.gr-assets.com/images/S/compressed.photo.goodreads.com/books/1347843832l/1382803.jpg


    Wouldn't trust the guy as far as I could throw him.

    Replies: @PiltdownMan

    That badly colorized version of an old glass-plate photograph of Jacky Fisher really destroys what is a good, old school photographic portrait. In our era of grinning mugshots, it’s hard to remember that people didn’t routinely smile for photographs a century ago, but rather, tried to project some measure of personal dignity and gravitas. And, in the case of that formal military portrait in full uniform, I think Fisher deliberately put on his “command” face, as one might expect from an Admiral of the Fleet of the Royal Navy back then. It is easy, with modern eyes, to see dishonesty.

    Fisher doesn’t have that expression in most other pictures.

    • Replies: @Wokechoke
    @PiltdownMan

    Fisher could be a meme. First picture he's disapproving of something. Next he's grinning. The second one would be sinking the Imperial German Fleet at Kiel. The first would be Dunkirk.

    , @Gordo
    @PiltdownMan

    Fisher was know to his colleagues as “The Malay” as they suspected mixed blood.

    Has anyone read Morris’s book on Fisher? Is it worth buying?

    Replies: @John, @PiltdownMan, @Bill Jones

  36. Guys love to tinker. Make a go-cart out of a lawn mower, like that. After all, ‘gender’ is just a ‘construct.’

    Would Mary Shelley make Dr Frankenstein a woman? I don’t think so. A woman doesn’t have to build a man from spare parts, she can just give birth. And Transmen don’t often seem to go whole hog, as it were. They just sort of erase their sex, try to be like Ken dolls. Getting your penis chopped off takes commitment, like transforming an old Chevy into a hot rod.

    When I was a kid, I sometimes listened to the Rocky Horror soundtrack because my parents had the record and the music was catchy. The trans stuff seemed strange to me, but I understood the connection with Frankenstein, and just figured a transvestite had something to do with that idea.

    “In just seven days I can make you a man.” I thought that was pretty clever when I was seven.

  37. @Kylie
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11527307/Ex-Navy-SEAL-transitioned-male-female-says-hes-transitioning-BACK.html?ito=native_share_article-top

    I've gone from genuine tolerance of these creatures to a profound aversion to them. This has less to do with the physical aspects of their transition, ridiculous and unseemly though they are, than it does with disgust at their arrogance. You don't get to become whoever or whatever you want to be merely by deciding that's who or what you are. And you don't get to demand that others kowtow to you by treating your laughable delusions as if they were facts.

    I don't wish any of these self-mutilating freaks well.

    Replies: @AndrewR, @Bill Jones, @anonymous, @AnotherDad, @Prester John, @Anonymous, @Edward Dett

    I’ve gone from genuine tolerance of these creatures to a profound aversion to them. This has less to do with the physical aspects of their transition, ridiculous and unseemly though they are, than it does with disgust at their arrogance. You don’t get to become whoever or whatever you want to be merely by deciding that’s who or what you are. And you don’t get to demand that others kowtow to you by treating your laughable delusions as if they were facts.

    Spot on Kylie. Arrogance.

    The whole story is just family abuse. But I thought this was the key bit:

    The reality, as my mother told me, was that my sister lay dying in hospital and Jan refused to go with my mother to visit her. … Jan’s words, then and ever after, completely failed to show any understanding of her pain. She had no empathy.

    Basically, these people are sociopaths. Extremely narcissistic sociopaths.

    The whole story here is complete disregard for the interest of his (its) family, to feed its overweening ego. The family would have been much better off if this POS just killed itself, left. Left them alone to get on with it. But it needed a stage and the family were props to be abused.

    In a sane society we’d just immediately expel such POS.

    But no … they are a minority! And minorities are special. The rest of us must live our lives to support minorities, give them stuff and make sure their oh-so-special feelings are never, ever hurt.

    • Agree: Alden
  38. OT

    “And why are some dogs clever and some stupid?”

    “Er… purely economic factors, son”

    The Guardian treads dangerously, as dog bite deaths triple in the UK (admittedly that’s from 3 to 9).

    https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2022/dec/12/lockdown-bad-breeds-or-just-poor-training-why-are-dog-bites-on-the-rise-in-britain

    Unless dogs have been bred from parents with nice and confident temperaments, and are well-socialised and trained when they are young, they may struggle to cope when they are older. This is why there are concerns about ‘pandemic puppies’ who could not be socialised at the time and, due to demand, many likely came from poor breeding environments*.” The familiar saying “there’s no such thing as a bad dog, just a bad owner” isn’t helpful or true, says Westgarth. “As an owner we can try to do all the ‘right’ things”, but the dog’s genetics and early experiences are beyond our control.

    * the dodgy traveller or Eastern European puppy farm breeder is either a reality or a “racist trope”, depending on who you listen to

    https://www.itv.com/news/meridian/2021-03-31/undercover-illegal-puppy-smuggling-trade-soars-during-lockdown

    Re Jan Morris and sociopaths – sociopaths can be very charismatic people and attractive to women. AFAIK, James Morris’s wife stayed with him until his death.

  39. @Bill P

    You don’t get to become whoever or whatever you want to be merely by deciding that’s who or what you are. And you don’t get to demand that others kowtow to you by treating your laughable delusions as if they were facts.
     
    Trans takes narcissism to a whole 'nother level.

    That's why it's celebrated by progressives. Narcissism is at the core of their faith. We used to call it pride.

    Replies: @Twinkie, @mc23, @John Johnson

    Narcissism is at the core of their faith. We used to call it pride.

    Great observation. To me it makes more sense out of the mindset, maybe more useful as a diagnostic measure all well.

  40. This story of psycho narcissist father who transitions into a fake female, and in doing so, denies his children of a father and his wife of a husband is virtually identical to the story in the documentary The Lady and The Dale.

    Eerie and evil.

  41. There’s not enough rope in the world to hang all the psychiatrists who sanction trans-ops and for the surgeons who perform such operations. It’s really criminal.

    • Agree: Gordo, Art Deco
    • Replies: @kaganovitch
    @BB753

    There’s not enough rope in the world to hang all the psychiatrists who sanction trans-ops and for the surgeons who perform such operations.

    I would bet there is. It's an empirical question, though, so a regime of robust experimentation is called for.

    Replies: @J.Ross

  42. Agreed. Such a sad story. Sociopath leaped out as I read the excerpts. Absolutely child abuse. Interesting again, to see transsexuals so focused on traditional feminine behavior. Amazing the same people who want to minimize stereotyping are lauding lunatics who reinforce it. No room for Tom Boys.

    • Replies: @Carol
    @mc23

    FtM are really pathetic. The ones I've seen posting on reddit all seem to be quite short, and overweight in a lot of cases. Just what kind of "man" do they think they are going to be? T supps can do only so much.

    About as esthetically appealing as a 6-4 trans woman.

    You'd think the first barroom beatdown would disabuse them of their self confidence. But alas they know better than to go around actual men.

    Replies: @Anonymous

  43. @Arclight
    Purely anecdotal, but my conventional Democrat mother has recently had the scales fall from her eyes on the transgender stuff. She used to accept at face value the language around this, such as referring to Amy Schneider (MtF Jeopardy champ) as a woman, but after a few brief conversations in which she was encouraged to learn more on her own about a) the actual surgery people undergo and maintenance, b) autogynophilia, and c) the frequency of other mental disorders alongside gender dysphoria she is now totally revolted by the entire thing.

    Frankly, like a lot of stuff I think lefty adoption of pro-transgender language and politics is just political tribal signaling with the percentage that actually have some knowledge of what it all entails in the low to mid single digits. Once normie Dems are exposed to actual facts, the mind recoils. So that gives me some hope that as more facts seep into the public sphere there will be a political sea change on WWT.

    Replies: @mc23, @AnotherDad, @JR Ewing

    When I learned about the need for them to regularly have dilation of their artificially constructed vaginas as the body tried to heal the wound I couldn’t stop thinking, how does any medical professional go along with this.

    • Agree: Bardon Kaldian
    • Replies: @Arclight
    @mc23

    The reality is that a lot of 'medical professionals' are pretty agnostic about the ethics surrounding transgender diagnoses and surgeries as long as the check clears. There is a reason gender mutilation surgeries have tripled and you even have some of these ghouls on Tik Tok bragging about how many people they disfigured in a week.

    Replies: @John Johnson

  44. @Franz

    The Jan they knew was neglectful, bullying and sexist, writes her daughter Suki Morys
     
    Sounds like she managed to be the horrible mommy anyway, so his/her operation worked part way.

    I asked a prison psychiatrist who his real hard cases were. The answers were uniform and bleak "Cold mommy who calls the shots in the family. Distant or nonexistent father. Mommy always belittled the boys and blamed them for everything, crushing their self-image. With no man to counterbalance it, the guys spent their lives taking revenge on the world. And they go nuts."

    Replies: @Renard, @SFG, @Wokechoke

    Aye. That’s true.

  45. @Twinkie
    @Bill P

    Yup. That was my impression - a mentally ill narcissist. To a great degree, this narcissism is the opposite of love, which ought to be the highest of human ideals. And love, of course, is the selfless giving of oneself to others, which, among women, is best expressed through the giving of life to her offspring (even at the risk of her own life) and caring for them - in other words, motherhood. “Trans women” grotesquely pervert this ideal and disfigure the very definition of womanhood into a warped imitation of the feminine physical form and the complete absence of what really makes for a woman spiritually.

    Replies: @Bill P, @AnotherDad

    To a great degree, this narcissism is the opposite of love, which ought to be the highest of human ideals.

    Terrific sentence Twinkie.

    Yeah, even allowing for “damaged daughter” retelling, this is a guy who basically doesn’t give a shit about his family. They are props for his egotistical drama. Hideous deformed creature.

    • Thanks: Twinkie
  46. @PiltdownMan
    @Bill Jones

    That badly colorized version of an old glass-plate photograph of Jacky Fisher really destroys what is a good, old school photographic portrait. In our era of grinning mugshots, it's hard to remember that people didn't routinely smile for photographs a century ago, but rather, tried to project some measure of personal dignity and gravitas. And, in the case of that formal military portrait in full uniform, I think Fisher deliberately put on his "command" face, as one might expect from an Admiral of the Fleet of the Royal Navy back then. It is easy, with modern eyes, to see dishonesty.

    https://i.imgur.com/9fsfbM0.jpg

    Fisher doesn't have that expression in most other pictures.

    https://i.imgur.com/xRH4m2s.jpg

    Replies: @Wokechoke, @Gordo

    Fisher could be a meme. First picture he’s disapproving of something. Next he’s grinning. The second one would be sinking the Imperial German Fleet at Kiel. The first would be Dunkirk.

    • LOL: p38ace
  47. His father had been gassed in the war and was to die soon. From Jan’s account he obviously had PTSD, so his mother would have been a strong role model.

    As much as we’d like not to, we keep reliving our childhood circumstances and traumas during our lives. John Le Carré’s analogy is the ‘pigeon tunnel’:

    The “pigeon tunnel,” the working title of several novels before he insisted on it for his memoir, refers to a scene he witnessed at a seaside shooting range in Monte Carlo on a conman’s holiday with Ronnie. “Under the lawn ran small, parallel tunnels that emerged in a row at the sea’s edge,” he writes. “Into them were inserted live pigeons that had been hatched and trapped on the casino roof. Their job was to flutter their way along the pitch-dark tunnel until they emerged in the Mediterranean sky as targets for well-lunched sporting gentlemen” who were arrayed on the lawn below, shotguns at the ready. “Pigeons who were missed or merely winged then did what pigeons do,” le Carré writes. “They returned to the place of their birth on the casino roof, where the same traps awaited them.” He identified with the pigeons.

    https://thebaffler.com/salvos/the-father-of-all-secrets-adler-bell

    • Replies: @HammerJack
    @TelfoedJohn

    God, that sounds awful.
    And I dont even like birds.

  48. @PiltdownMan
    @Bill Jones

    That badly colorized version of an old glass-plate photograph of Jacky Fisher really destroys what is a good, old school photographic portrait. In our era of grinning mugshots, it's hard to remember that people didn't routinely smile for photographs a century ago, but rather, tried to project some measure of personal dignity and gravitas. And, in the case of that formal military portrait in full uniform, I think Fisher deliberately put on his "command" face, as one might expect from an Admiral of the Fleet of the Royal Navy back then. It is easy, with modern eyes, to see dishonesty.

    https://i.imgur.com/9fsfbM0.jpg

    Fisher doesn't have that expression in most other pictures.

    https://i.imgur.com/xRH4m2s.jpg

    Replies: @Wokechoke, @Gordo

    Fisher was know to his colleagues as “The Malay” as they suspected mixed blood.

    Has anyone read Morris’s book on Fisher? Is it worth buying?

    • Replies: @John
    @Gordo

    I read it some years ago. It was OK. Some ado about little, I'd call it. Most of Morris's books were on that scale, and likeable for that reason, at least to me. I think Fisher had had a long exemplary peacetime naval career but funked it at a critical point in WWI. That was the climax of Morris's book.

    Almost but not quite totally unrelated, I'm working on a post for Ricochet about 1950s travel books, of which I have read only a few. Were there only a few? Maybe. My specific inspiration is Erico Verissimo's book about Mexico. Somehow, this Brazilian found quite a lot to say.

    , @PiltdownMan
    @Gordo

    I bought a copy and it was worth it. A couple of other comments above agree that it is worth reading.

    I've pretty much stopped buying books of late. My public library system is pretty good, and I'm able to find almost anything I want to read in it, even if, sometimes, I have to reserve it and wait for a while.

    Replies: @Kylie, @anonymous

    , @Bill Jones
    @Gordo

    I did,
    It is.
    A window into a vanished civilization.

  49. anonymous[726] • Disclaimer says:
    @Auld Alliance
    Had not realised that Morris was 6 feet 4. A big, er, person.

    Another off-beat character from our scptred isle is comedian (comedienne?) Eddie Izzard.

    Clearly very physically fit - marathons, lots of them - and a formidable linguist.

    And well, have a read if you do not know.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eddie_Izzard

    Replies: @anonymous, @James N. Kennett

    he’s a great example because he was a crossdresser back when it was called that.

    he didn’t pretend he was a woman. you watch his comedy special “dressed to kill” and he acknowledges he’s into it dressing up but he in no way tries to convince you he’s not a man. you forget about it during most of the stand-up.

    he’s into women and would clearly never get bottom surgery.

  50. Scorpions 1977

    the Axis eliminated this stuff in the 1930s, it took an Allied victory and time passing all the way into the 1970s for it to return to europe. then longer for it get to America. showed up in metropolitan cities first, as most insane things do.
    Aerosmith 1987

    • Replies: @TelfoedJohn
    @prime noticer

    https://youtube.com/watch?v=4Ua85vgFvlg

  51. @Altai
    The bimodal distribution of transness of these assholes and then eccentric autistic types seems to be derived from both groups having low regard for the opinions of others, both have much lower amounts of social empathy. The difference is the nerd just wants to be left alone whereas the jock assholes don't want to be left alone, they want to dominate and harm others, to be superior to them.

    This does sometimes cause them to support similar politics (Due often to autistic nerds assuming these policies will help them and hurt the stupid kinds of people they put up with in school and both having low empathy for others), though often just allowing more 'freedom for aggression' by assholes such as the devastation brought to IT wages from the invention of Indian outsourcing and insourcing.

    This was pioneered by Thatcher in Britain who was appalled that working class men were able to just be trained up in these positions without lengthy and expensive education, worse they were good white collar jobs that paid well. This disgusted Thatcher who was animated by contempt and a sense of superiority over crass working class people she grew up, thinking herself above them as a grocers daughter. So she was overjoyed at the idea of beginning to import workers from India to act, essentially, as scabs. The pay these men got wasn't disruptive, it was that they were getting it that made her mad. This desire for and contempt of, social inferiors, can be seen by many of these 'Sailer types'.

    This does raise the question as to if these men typify the kinds of men who have this fetish/impulse or just those who go through with it. Or maybe their lack of social empathy also allows them to cultivate this thing in themselves too, to the point that they get to seriously imagining transforming into a woman?

    It's amazing though to me that we see men and boys becoming women because they don't care what others think or feel, a profoundly male trait and teenage girls becoming boys/men because they are so suggestible and care so much what others think, a profoundly female trait. There is no 'social contagion' with the MtF but there is with the FtM, the MtFs don't care that they don't fit in and the FtMs are desperately seeking validation and trying to fit in, only it's pathological since they are fitting in with messed up peers. The very types of people who transition display the least similar psychologies to their professed actual sex.

    For fun some of the more amazing patterns to notice.


    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zoey_Tur#/media/File:Zoey_Tur_Inside_Edition_(cropped).jpg

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zoey_Tur

    Joey (Bob) Tur, is alleged by his very PC prog daughter (Who may well have inherited some of his dark traits, having had an affair with the much older Keith Olbermann and then ending it when she got hired to MSNBC...) to have been highly abusive to his family, she claims he threw batteries at her, her brother and mother when she was a child after particularly frustrating days at work.

    You might remember Tur from when he grasps the neck of and threatened to do some physical harm to Ben Shapiro during a public transgender debate. This man has a cluster B personality disorder for sure, ie, an asshole. As far as I know, he and his daughter are still estranged but his public statements also show a grandiose narcissism. He is most famous for being a 'nightcrawler' style helicopter pilot who would shot car chases in LA in the 90s, the most famous being the O.J. chase.

    Here he is reminiscing about filming the beating half to death of the white truck driver during the LA riots prior to becoming 'Zoey'. See if you can detect anything about him that seems even remotely feminine.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B_mjkGwNo20

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10909885/Katy-Tur-opens-reaction-father-Zoey-Tur-coming-trans.html


    The 38-year-old recounted the 2013 call that caused the rift between her and her now-estranged father, who has never met her two children

    ‘My dad said, ”I am a woman.’ And I said ”What?” And my dad said, ”I’m a woman, I’m transitioning, I’m going to become a woman,” Katy told CBS Sunday Morning
    ‘And I remember being at first puzzled and saying, ”You gotta be joking. You’re kidding, what are you talking about?”’

    ...

    The MSNBC anchor also accused her father of throwing batteries at her, her brother and mother, and punching walls when she was growing up.

    ...

    Zoey had previously said that Katy has not spoken to her since she made the decision to transition.

    Zoey has also said in the past that she does not consider Katy as ‘transphobic.’

    ‘It’s that her hero father has become this. And it’s the fear of not fitting in. It’s the pressure of being on network television. It’s the conservatism that she’s forced to endure,’ she told The Hollywood Reporter in 2016.

     

    The problem she has with all this, he haughtily concludes, is that 'Zoey' took away her "hero father", amazing narcissism.

    https://hips.hearstapps.com/hmg-prod.s3.amazonaws.com/images/elm100121ppnatalie-egan001-1634068501.jpg

    From October 2021, a puff piece in Elle Magazine on a former stereotypical 'tech bro' (IE, the kind who doesn't code but does the money raising using his rich parents contacts and other VC bros, being a psychopathic seeking of money and passing snake oil) of one 'Natalie' Egan. Everything in the story suggests that Egan also had some cluster B personality disorder traits.

    Corporate Transition
    When presenting as a man, this “tech bro” entrepreneur was the toast of Silicon Valley—until she stepped into boardrooms as a woman.
    https://www.elle.com/life-love/a37507807/0106-0108-corporate-transition-october-2021


    That was circa 2009, when she was “an asshole and a jerk,” Egan says. But that wasn’t the only thing that was different about Egan back then: She had been assigned male at birth and raised as a boy. Married with three children, Egan took pride in her college-frat bona fides and harsh management style. She was a tech bro—a successful one, raising $7 million in investments for the tech-sales company she founded.

    In 2009, after jobs in hospitality and tech, Egan started her own business, PeopleLinx, which helped companies use LinkedIn data to sell effectively. Tech start-ups then were “this culture that was rewarding toxic masculinity,” Egan says. And she ran it the way she’d seen other men run companies. She made decisions with little input, based on the idea that “representation and diverse perspectives slow things down,” she says. “I was like, ‘Go, go, go, we don’t have time for your opinion.’ ” If someone was late to a meeting, she’d publicly embarrass them. “It was, like, chest bumps and kegs,” Egan says. “Even as the company grew, we were having arm-wrestling competitions.”

    Her executive coach then and now, Russ Rosa, describes it this way: “There was a type of bullying masculinity that Natalie had that didn’t make her very popular.” But popularity didn’t matter; winning did. The company grew to 50 employees. High-profile clients signed on. Venture capital firms speculated that this could be a billion-dollar business. But then LinkedIn changed how it allowed other companies to access its data, endangering PeopleLinx’s core business. Egan appointed a friend as CEO so she could focus on sales, but the company was circling the drain. In 2015, the new CEO fired Egan, and she had no idea how to handle it. “It was the first time I wasn’t getting what I wanted,” she says.

     

    None of his business ideas was productive or even worth anything just essentially scams trying to sell a solution that didn't have a problem. The article then tries to suggest that 'Natalie' having a harder time after all the bad business plans and wasted VC funds is the perfect control for sexism in the corporate world. Never asked is whether poeple won't take 'Natalie's' calls because they see Egan as a woman or rather an off putting weird man dressed up as a woman in a way that has essentially no value in estimating actual sexism.

    I honestly can't comprehend stories like this, surely none of these people read what they have submitted and don't see it?

    And Steve covered well the father of Susan Faludi who once physically beat her for wanting to join her gentile friend at a summer camp run by church. Astonishingly she recounts laughing with her father over this horrific display of outgroup hatred and violence towards his slight per-adolescent daughter.

    https://www.unz.com/isteve/man-who-fathered-feminist-susan-faludi-is-now-woman-who-definitely-didnt-mother-her

    These guys are high functioning sociopaths.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antisocial_personality_disorder

    Replies: @Pixo

    Interesting comment.

    I agree there seems to be two different types of heterosexual trannies: Macho asshole and autistic nerd. One I knew in person was a shy Aspie type computer programmer with an even shyer Asian wife who stayed with him. He “transitioned” around age 32 a few years after his normal marriage.

    Some can be both macho and autistic: like Martine Rothblatt and Dierdre McCloskey.

    Elon Musk is both a macho asshole and self identifies as having ASD. He isn’t trans (yet) but one of his sons is.

    He’s personally into transhumanism. His first five children were from IVF and embryo-selected and born as twins and triplets with his ex wife Justine. His two youngest are twins with a high-IQ Jewess he has never been in a relationship with and via IVF.

    Finally I’d like to see some evidence that Thatcher supported mass migration. Under her tenure, the UK had lower non-white migration than the US, Canada, Netherlands and Germany. Obviously still too high, but pretty low by her contemporary standards or what came later under Blair.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Pixo


    Elon Musk is both a macho 🦓⛳ and self-identifies as having ASD. He isn’t trans (yet) but one of his sons is.
     
    Choosing to go by the unisex "Vivian". He was Xavier before that. So why not "XXavier"?

    Wilson is mother's maiden name, and conveniently "anonymous", as Mrs C refers to her own equally common maiden name. (She happily took mine, though was bothered by the spelling. Damn Palatines!)

    David Bowie's kids go by his birth surname, Jones. Under the radar. Norah Shankar goes by her mother's surname, also Jones.

    The only male Vivian I can think of on this side of the Pond is Jay Vivian Chambers, who changed that to Whittaker. One Victor Stanshall reversed his father's name change, becoming Vivian himself. Here is this Viv and his band in delicious blackface:

    https://youtu.be/9HeEFxgktVg

    Replies: @kaganovitch, @Harry Baldwin

  52. @AndrewR
    @Kylie

    I'd have more sympathy for the regime narrative about transgenderism if they also allowed transracialism. But despite constantly telling us that race is only a "social construct," they clearly have very essentialist views about race.

    Replies: @Kylie, @Colin Wright

    “I’d have more sympathy for the regime narrative about transgenderism if they also allowed transracialism.”

    Point taken but you are more generous than I. I won’t have any sympathy for them regardless but I would have less contempt. Maybe.

    Bottom lines for these carnival freaks is this:
    “The rules are what we say they when we say they are, subject to change without notice. The only constant is that we are always right and you are always wrong.”

    Eff them all.

    • Agree: Alden
  53. @Pixo
    @Altai

    Interesting comment.

    I agree there seems to be two different types of heterosexual trannies: Macho asshole and autistic nerd. One I knew in person was a shy Aspie type computer programmer with an even shyer Asian wife who stayed with him. He “transitioned” around age 32 a few years after his normal marriage.

    Some can be both macho and autistic: like Martine Rothblatt and Dierdre McCloskey.

    Elon Musk is both a macho asshole and self identifies as having ASD. He isn’t trans (yet) but one of his sons is.

    He’s personally into transhumanism. His first five children were from IVF and embryo-selected and born as twins and triplets with his ex wife Justine. His two youngest are twins with a high-IQ Jewess he has never been in a relationship with and via IVF.

    Finally I’d like to see some evidence that Thatcher supported mass migration. Under her tenure, the UK had lower non-white migration than the US, Canada, Netherlands and Germany. Obviously still too high, but pretty low by her contemporary standards or what came later under Blair.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    Elon Musk is both a macho 🦓⛳ and self-identifies as having ASD. He isn’t trans (yet) but one of his sons is.

    Choosing to go by the unisex “Vivian”. He was Xavier before that. So why not “XXavier”?

    Wilson is mother’s maiden name, and conveniently “anonymous”, as Mrs C refers to her own equally common maiden name. (She happily took mine, though was bothered by the spelling. Damn Palatines!)

    David Bowie’s kids go by his birth surname, Jones. Under the radar. Norah Shankar goes by her mother’s surname, also Jones.

    The only male Vivian I can think of on this side of the Pond is Jay Vivian Chambers, who changed that to Whittaker. One Victor Stanshall reversed his father’s name change, becoming Vivian himself. Here is this Viv and his band in delicious blackface:

    [MORE]

    • Replies: @kaganovitch
    @Reg Cæsar

    The only male Vivian I can think of on this side of the Pond is Jay Vivian Chambers, who changed that to Whittaker.

    There are several Caribbean Vivians but that's onviously Limey influence. The only American I found was dis guy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vivian_Wilson_Henderson

    , @Harry Baldwin
    @Reg Cæsar

    Vivian Stanshall was a founding member of the Bonzo Dog Band, one of the great novelty song groups.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

  54. Many decades ago I read several of Morris’s travel books and enjoyed them. Later after the “trans” I lost interest.

    Yes, a lot of bad mojo in this kind of thing.

    There may be some who are mentally okay, but how many?

    While there is probably a very small percentage of them who “need” this, I think as iSteve has documented here and before, many are emotional cripples who expand their pathology into becoming and demonstrating their “god like” powers of transformation. Yes, “trans” formation.

    Other than becoming an animal of some kind, what other transformation is more profound?

    Ancient Greeks and others actually depicted tales of their gods doing this on occasion, usually as cruel or selfish trickery. (Or changing into animals.) I think they were on to something.

    You can change yourself mentally/emotionally. Physically only to a degree. As to “gender” you only become a freak of nature, often terrifying others. I think that is the underlying psychology of all but a few of these people.

    In just today’s news, the former Navy SEAL who came out in July as “transgender” now denounces that and has returned to status quo ante. Not sure if any actual physical op work was done.

    Taking hormones, minor top surgery (or not minor for actual females) and dressing opposite is transvestism, not “transsexual.”

    It is now part of the Woke religion to confuse and conflate these terms, though they describe different things entirely. Classic Marxism also used “borrowed” vocabulary to justify their hocus-pocus. And normalize oppression of unbelievers.

    Insanity and evil have no limits.

  55. @AndrewR
    @Kylie

    I'd have more sympathy for the regime narrative about transgenderism if they also allowed transracialism. But despite constantly telling us that race is only a "social construct," they clearly have very essentialist views about race.

    Replies: @Kylie, @Colin Wright

    ‘I’d have more sympathy for the regime narrative about transgenderism if they also allowed transracialism. But despite constantly telling us that race is only a “social construct,” they clearly have very essentialist views about race.’

    Oh, I dunno. Take Susan Rice.

    Or take Kamala Harris. I make her as half Indian, about three-eighths white, and about one-eighth black. Yet she is ‘black.’ After all, she’d hardly have been chosen to be Vice President if it had been decided she was Indian, or white.

    It’s actually an irony. For all the carrying on about privileging blacks, damned few 100% black blacks ever benefit. All the bennies go to all these mulatto creatures, usually from middling to privileged backgrounds to begin with. Take Obama: half-white, went to the most exclusive private school in Hawaii, from there to private colleges, finishing up at Harvard.

    Yep: a real latter-day Up from Slavery. There might or might not be an argument for helping actual blacks. I don’t think there is, but I understand the position. But why on earth should people who have a pretty good start in life to begin with, are only debatably ‘black,’ and have never been held down in any way get put on the magic escalator?

    Not only is it all a lot of crap, but it’s almost invariably a lie to begin with. None of these people are oppressed anything. Clarence Thomas stands out as the exception who proves the rule. He’s about the only actual black in the bunch — and sure enough. He may not be an intellectual star in our firmament, but at least he’s not a lying pain in the ass.

    • Agree: Jim Don Bob, Old Prude
    • Replies: @Truth
    @Colin Wright


    Or take Kamala Harris. I make her as half Indian, about three-eighths white, and about one-eighth black. Yet she is ‘black.’
     
    In other words, "she makes my woody-worm come to life, and gosh diggy-darnit, I need an excuse!"

    Replies: @Colin Wright

    , @SF
    @Colin Wright

    Indians are at least half descended from Indo European tribes who moved southeast, and always used to be categorized as caucasian.

    , @Reg Cæsar
    @Colin Wright


    [Clarence Thomas] may not be an intellectual star in our firmament...
     
    Plain common sense is underrated. He's undoing damage wrought by those "smarter" than he.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

    , @AndrewR
    @Colin Wright

    The one-drop rule is 100% essentialism - a very stupid, illogical form, but essentialism nonetheless. Obama and Kamala and Rice have benefitted from this rule whereas in previous centuries they would have been disadvantaged by it or tried to hide it. But the definition of who is "black" seems identical to that of 200 years ago.

    Replies: @Colin Wright

  56. I read it soon after it first was published in the mid-70s. I was impressed with “Jan” as a person. Now I know the rest of the story.

  57. Of course Morris slighted and denigrated his daughter. The most important thing to him was his trans conceit, and her existence threatened that in two ways. First, she originated when Morris inseminated her mother, an act impossible for a real woman. Second, he had to see this child everyday acting and being feminine in ways he could never fully understand or even mimic realistically. It must have been infuriating for such a narcissist.

    • Agree: anonymouseperson
  58. @Bill P

    You don’t get to become whoever or whatever you want to be merely by deciding that’s who or what you are. And you don’t get to demand that others kowtow to you by treating your laughable delusions as if they were facts.
     
    Trans takes narcissism to a whole 'nother level.

    That's why it's celebrated by progressives. Narcissism is at the core of their faith. We used to call it pride.

    Replies: @Twinkie, @mc23, @John Johnson

    Trans takes narcissism to a whole ‘nother level.

    There is a new trend in trannyland that so far hasn’t be picked up by anyone including alt-right. It’s very politically incorrect as it undermines preexisting narratives.

    Men are taking hormones and not even bothering to act like women. They grow boobs and then get offended if someone calls them a sir.

    They don’t claim to be women and get offended by that suggestion as well. There is also no indication that they want sexual relations with men.

    It appears entirely as an act of attention seeking and not much different than tongue splitting or those stupid horn implants.

    Complete narcissism and celebrated by society. Sounds like most of them are like the gamestop sir I mean ma’am.

  59. @Bardon Kaldian
    Basically, a fetishist whose life revolved around the fetish.

    Replies: @Bill Jones, @James N. Kennett, @Chrisnonymous

    Basically, a fetishist whose life revolved around the fetish.

    From the article:

    What did she want to be? I believe she wanted to be someone totally different from anyone else, a woman who was the centre of attention because of her difference. She was no ordinary woman, as she believed the rest of us were. She was always talked about, always put on some pedestal. Her ego was massive, with people constantly rubbing it. She was a woman who enjoyed being in a man’s world because she stood out.

    A precise description of The Man Who Would Be Queen.

  60. Reminds me of Popular Science’s intrepid columnist Robert Gannon who in 1967 “took drugs” in the interest of science.

    Only these people intend to make it a life’s journey to Narnia.

    Working and writing for Popular Science means being able to do fun things, like playing with the latest consumer electronics in Las Vegas, touring the Shanghai Expo, and getting paid to do hard drugs. We’re not kidding. In 1967, reporter Robert Gannon spent a weekend getting high on LSD at a psychiatric institution in Pennsylvania. Under close supervision, Gannon passed the next 24 hours doing pirouettes, rolling around in the grass, biting his arms, and mumbling about the depravity of his generation. Then he got to write about it.

    “I’m totally insane,” he said. “I know because I can see reality as it flicks past, just a little slit of sunlight. I’m in a giant maelstrom, swirling, whirling, with reality only a small slot in the side.”

    https://www.popsci.com/science/article/2011-01/popular-science-takes-drugs/

  61. @mc23
    Agreed. Such a sad story. Sociopath leaped out as I read the excerpts. Absolutely child abuse. Interesting again, to see transsexuals so focused on traditional feminine behavior. Amazing the same people who want to minimize stereotyping are lauding lunatics who reinforce it. No room for Tom Boys.

    Replies: @Carol

    FtM are really pathetic. The ones I’ve seen posting on reddit all seem to be quite short, and overweight in a lot of cases. Just what kind of “man” do they think they are going to be? T supps can do only so much.

    About as esthetically appealing as a 6-4 trans woman.

    You’d think the first barroom beatdown would disabuse them of their self confidence. But alas they know better than to go around actual men.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Carol

    Someone here commented that he really liked F-to-M transsexualism, because it turned aggressive obnoxious women into timid submissive 'men'.

  62. @Auld Alliance
    Had not realised that Morris was 6 feet 4. A big, er, person.

    Another off-beat character from our scptred isle is comedian (comedienne?) Eddie Izzard.

    Clearly very physically fit - marathons, lots of them - and a formidable linguist.

    And well, have a read if you do not know.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eddie_Izzard

    Replies: @anonymous, @James N. Kennett

    Had not realised that Morris was 6 feet 4. A big, er, person.

    It is sad to see a M2F transgender person who was previously a tall man with a stocky build. They have no chance of ever becoming a convincing woman, and it is highly likely that their friends, family, and doctors told them so before they transitioned.

    Eddie Izzard is weird in a different way. He describes himself as a “lesbian trapped in a man’s body”. This sounds like the self-description of an autogynephiliac.

    • Replies: @Curle
    @James N. Kennett

    “They have no chance of ever becoming a convincing woman”

    Agree. I watched a portion of that Jan dude’s interview and there were no tell-tale signs: no curveball responses to direct questions; no using men as props to impress her friends; never once asked with a tone of disapproval “why are you wearing that?”; no encyclopedic recollection of every burden ever borne because of some man’s thoughtlessness. This guy is no woman.

    , @YetAnotherAnon
    @James N. Kennett


    "He describes himself as a “lesbian trapped in a man’s body”."
     
    Isn't that jut a standard male joke, an ironic "you should really pity me" remark?

    I'd heard that thirty years back, before I'd ever heard of Izzard.
  63. @mc23
    @Arclight

    When I learned about the need for them to regularly have dilation of their artificially constructed vaginas as the body tried to heal the wound I couldn’t stop thinking, how does any medical professional go along with this.

    Replies: @Arclight

    The reality is that a lot of ‘medical professionals’ are pretty agnostic about the ethics surrounding transgender diagnoses and surgeries as long as the check clears. There is a reason gender mutilation surgeries have tripled and you even have some of these ghouls on Tik Tok bragging about how many people they disfigured in a week.

    • Replies: @John Johnson
    @Arclight

    The reality is that a lot of ‘medical professionals’ are pretty agnostic about the ethics surrounding transgender diagnoses and surgeries as long as the check clears.

    That really isn't true.

    The medical community is overwhelmingly against giving minors hormones or worse sending them to surgery.

    But no one is speaking out because they are afraid of ending up on CNN and losing their career.

    It's the psych community that is behind it all. They are the ones that need the checks. The colleges have graduated too many psychologists. They tend to be left-wing and they only need to know one amoral doctor or psychiatrist for the prescriptions.

    Your typical family doctor wants nothing to do with the tranny trend. There is plenty of real work for them. It's the psychologist that needs to pay the rent and has the liberal outlook whereby anything against the White mainstream is perceived as progress.

    Psychologists are hucksters. They didn't get a practical medical degree and have to hustle to ring the insurance.

    Replies: @mc23

  64. @Bill P
    @Twinkie


    To a great degree, this narcissism is the opposite of love, which ought to be the highest of human ideals.
     
    My recent thinking on it is that it's an inversion of the proper relationship we should have with ourselves. We should love ourselves, but in the way a parent loves a child. If instead we put our "I" at the service of our "self" it leads to all sorts of disorder and deviation from truth, just as it would if a parent allowed a small child to be his/her master.

    I think this happens when people are unaware, or only dimly aware, that there is a distinction between the I and the self because of some developmental failure. The mature sense that "I must control myself" is replaced by a sense that all control is being imposed by some external nemesis, such as "society," "the patriarchy," "white supremacy," "heteronormativity" etc. So therefore whatever the selfish desire may be, no matter how vile or preposterous, any check on it is purely due to external tyranny that must be destroyed.

    Replies: @Twinkie

    The mature sense that “I must control myself” is replaced by a sense that all control is being imposed by some external nemesis, such as “society,” “the patriarchy,” “white supremacy,” “heteronormativity” etc. So therefore whatever the selfish desire may be, no matter how vile or preposterous, any check on it is purely due to external tyranny that must be destroyed.

    Agree!

    We should love ourselves, but in the way a parent loves a child. If instead we put our “I” at the service of our “self” it leads to all sorts of disorder and deviation from truth, just as it would if a parent allowed a small child to be his/her master.

    I think I know what you mean here and tend to agree, but I do not care for this construction of “self-love.” I tend to think that it’s not so much that we should “love ourselves” so much as be able to accept love from others, be it from God or other human beings.

    • Replies: @Bill P
    @Twinkie

    Self-love has a negative connotation because narcissism is so prevalent today, but Christians are literally commanded to love themselves, as "love your neighbor as you love yourself" means you must love yourself to properly love your neighbor.

    Narcissistic self love is different. It places the self above all else, including the transcendent, which it ignores or denies (this is in fact the old definition of pride). In a healthy individual, the transcendent subject - the "I" - should be the parent to the self's child. That's an analogy, of course, but apparently a very useful one as I'm far from the first to come up with it.

    Long ago, it seems people intuitively understood this concept, but it's foreign to most people today. Take for example the distinction between "will" and "shall." I will used to have a clearly different meaning from I shall, and implied an agency above the mere self. Hardly anyone uses that today, which says something to me about how our concept of the self has changed over time.

    , @Unintended Consequence
    @Twinkie

    I just find it preposterous that Twinkie and Bill P. are suddenly so insightful about a topic we could label "introspective theology". But, really, coming from Sailer regulars like yourselves (no pun intended), this comes across more as "satanic verses". Are the both of you quite alright?

    Replies: @Bill P

  65. “I was three or perhaps four years old when I realized that I had been born into the wrong body”

    I do not believe anyone who says this. Thanks for exposing this phony.

    • Agree: Polistra
  66. @Anonymous
    @Achmed E. Newman

    She has every right to point out the pervert's hypocrisy. Having a conservative idea of what a woman is, not trying to conform to it whatsoever, yet still demanding everyone else call you a woman and kowtow to you and your fetish, with zero regard to your wife and children, including a very young and confused one. The gall.

    Can't imagine the horror of growing up with a father like that. Verges on abusive, really. Scum.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

    She has every right to point out the pervert’s hypocrisy.

    Sure she does. However, what’s more important is to point out how stupid, weird, and arrogant* the whole “tranny” thing is to begin with. She didn’t do that.

    .

    * The stupid part is the thinking that one can truly change sexes. The weird part is something we all know but is not part of the current narrative. The arrogant part is their telling us we are not to believe the whole thing is both stupid and weird.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Achmed E. Newman


    Sure she does. However, what’s more important is to point out how stupid, weird, and arrogant* the whole “tranny” thing is to begin with. She didn’t do that.
     
    Not that many are brave enough to take such a public stand nowadays. She's probably going to get enough grief for saying this much. Going further would be the right thing to do, but it's not an easy decision. Of course, I can't claim to know what she truly thinks, but I could understand fearing the prospect of one's life changing seriously for the worse, possibly forever. Sure, troons are not quite cartoon-crazed Islamists, but they are highly aggressive, highly influential, highly obsessive, and beyond unwell. Bravery is sadly rare. Still, even if she's truly one of those refusing to get it, I'm glad she put even this much out there. It exposes "Jan" and his worthless ilk to all not purposefully unwilling to see.

    But also... Going any further would mean her indictment of her piece of shit father would fall on deaf ears, at least when it comes to so-called polite society, i. e. the vast majority of people who had not already written the pervert off (as a person, if not as a writer). And if I were her, I'd certainly very much want to take a crap on the depraved scumbag's memory, and try to make it stick as much as possible. So, even if that were the motivation, I could hardly fault her for it.

  67. @Jim Don Bob
    @The Germ Theory of Disease

    Paul Theroux (sp?) is good too. I've read Dark Star about his return to Africa years after being there in the Peace Corps and Riding the Iron Rooster about traveling by train in China.

    The two books saved me a lot of money because they convinced me that I never wanted to go to either place.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @Jack D, @Harry Baldwin, @YetAnotherAnon, @sb

    I wish more Americans could have visited China going back before the Kung Flu Panic and now the Totalitarianism of Mao II, aka, the Pooh Bear. I really enjoyed it there, Jim Don, and I bet you would have too.

    OTOH, Africa and India too, no thanks. I saw one Seinfeld episode about the latter. That was enough.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Achmed E. Newman


    ...and now the Totalitarianism of Mao II, aka, the Pooh Bear.
     
    Related, the meathead next door has a generous side. Did you know North Korea had its own native breed?

    Kim Jong-un dogs end up at South Korean zoo after care costs row

    Ex-South Korean leader plans to give up dogs from North Korea's Kim


    https://www.reuters.com/resizer/1Z-vzXbc0OxXes7X_rybLJjlxzg=/799x0/filters:quality(80)/cloudfront-us-east-2.images.arcpublishing.com/reuters/SXS4OY7ARBJB3KS5BFD2CJASMM.jpg
    , @The Germ Theory of Disease
    @Achmed E. Newman

    "OTOH, Africa and India too, no thanks."

    The great problem for us in these times is, That is precisely what all the Africans and Indians think, as well.

  68. Maybe deep down this desire to “be a girl” is just a desire to have been treated better as a child and to have received more love and understanding from parents and Society at large. Lots of young males resent all the pampering and protection that is given to girls and that is denied to them since they are small children.

    Many boys look at the way that their sisters are treated, how much more understanding their parents are of their sisters, how much more tolerant they are of their weaknesses and flaws, and how much gentler they are treated, and deep down they seeth with resentment over it. They are not even allowed to complain about it, because “whining” is unmanly. For instance, parents are far more likely to strike their sons than their daughters, and this is true for both fathers and mothers.

    Boys learn from a young age that, as the biologically more “disposable” sex, that Society doesn’t care about their well-being as much as it cares about that of females, and that they come to this World to fight to affirm themselves. Unlike females, that have value from birth due to being the resource-limiting factor in reproduction. It is totally unfair at the Human, individual level.

    At the level of Society at large, you see this bias. Women are far more likely to receive custody of children in divorce settling, they receive much lighter sentences for the same crime, etc. A male murderer is far more likely to receive the needle than a female murderer. Even today, despite 50 years of feminism, police, figher fighters and such still have the “women and children” first policy, and the lives of females are given priority over that of males during rescues, etc. Even Steve Sailer showed his bias in his article on the rescue of Jessica Lynch, stating that it constitutes “healthy instincts” to risk the lives of several young men to save the life of one female. Many males resent this supreme, unearned status that is given to females over them.

    Society treats young males like crap, and expect them to go along with it. Consider, for instance how, in every state of the Union, girls are protected from genital cutting by law, even from a needle prick, while boys are not given any protection. In fact, male circumcision of non-consenting boys is ubiquitous and nobody cares. Doing that to a baby girl would be considered totally barbaric and unacceptable, but doing it to boys is totally fine. And the reason why it’s totally fine is because people are just not as protective of males as they are of females.

    So at the root of transexualism is a desire for more status. If you have a strong ego and levels of self-esteem, you are going to resent having been born into the gender with the lower social status. “Wanting to be a girl” is actually “wanting to have the higher biological status of a female and all the pampering that comes with it”.

    • Troll: Kylie, TWS
    • Replies: @Yngvar
    @Zero Philosopher


    Consider, for instance how, in every state of the Union, girls are protected from genital cutting by law..
     
    Not true.

    "Currently, there is anti-FGM legislation in only 40 states, meaning that 10 STATES HAVE YET TO CRIMINALIZE FGM."
    (https://www.theahafoundation.org/female-genital-mutilation-fgm-in-the-us/fgm-legislation-by-state/)

    Replies: @Zero Philosopher

  69. @TelfoedJohn

    His father had been gassed in the war and was to die soon. From Jan’s account he obviously had PTSD, so his mother would have been a strong role model.
     
    As much as we’d like not to, we keep reliving our childhood circumstances and traumas during our lives. John Le Carré’s analogy is the ‘pigeon tunnel’:

    The “pigeon tunnel,” the working title of several novels before he insisted on it for his memoir, refers to a scene he witnessed at a seaside shooting range in Monte Carlo on a conman’s holiday with Ronnie. “Under the lawn ran small, parallel tunnels that emerged in a row at the sea’s edge,” he writes. “Into them were inserted live pigeons that had been hatched and trapped on the casino roof. Their job was to flutter their way along the pitch-dark tunnel until they emerged in the Mediterranean sky as targets for well-lunched sporting gentlemen” who were arrayed on the lawn below, shotguns at the ready. “Pigeons who were missed or merely winged then did what pigeons do,” le Carré writes. “They returned to the place of their birth on the casino roof, where the same traps awaited them.” He identified with the pigeons.
     
    https://thebaffler.com/salvos/the-father-of-all-secrets-adler-bell

    Replies: @HammerJack

    God, that sounds awful.
    And I dont even like birds.

  70. Q: How many Americans would you guess are on Medicaid now?

    https://archive.ph/i6Gnu.
    WSJ editorial, well worth reading.

    [MORE]

    100 million. 100 f*ing million.

    • Replies: @Jim Don Bob
    @HammerJack


    Q: How many Americans would you guess are on Medicaid now?

    100 million. 100 f*ing million.
     
    So? There are 40+ "Americans" getting food stamps.

    More than half the people in this country get more from the government than they contribute and the Ds make sure they vote.
    , @Art Deco
    @HammerJack

    About 91 million are enrolled in Medicaid or CHIP; the figure was 57 million in 2013. SNAP (ne Food Stamps) enrollment has been between 40 and 45 million since 2010; from 1980 to 2004 it was usually just north of 20 million.

    Scott Sumner now contends the ratio of public expenditure on medical care in this country to gdp equals that in Europe; it's just that it's spent more inefficiently here.

    Replies: @John Johnson

  71. This is off topic, but has anyone asked chatgpt to write prompts for chatgpt? There must be a way to trick it into self-awareness.

  72. @Twinkie
    @Bill P


    The mature sense that “I must control myself” is replaced by a sense that all control is being imposed by some external nemesis, such as “society,” “the patriarchy,” “white supremacy,” “heteronormativity” etc. So therefore whatever the selfish desire may be, no matter how vile or preposterous, any check on it is purely due to external tyranny that must be destroyed.
     
    Agree!

    We should love ourselves, but in the way a parent loves a child. If instead we put our “I” at the service of our “self” it leads to all sorts of disorder and deviation from truth, just as it would if a parent allowed a small child to be his/her master.
     
    I think I know what you mean here and tend to agree, but I do not care for this construction of "self-love." I tend to think that it's not so much that we should "love ourselves" so much as be able to accept love from others, be it from God or other human beings.

    Replies: @Bill P, @Unintended Consequence

    Self-love has a negative connotation because narcissism is so prevalent today, but Christians are literally commanded to love themselves, as “love your neighbor as you love yourself” means you must love yourself to properly love your neighbor.

    Narcissistic self love is different. It places the self above all else, including the transcendent, which it ignores or denies (this is in fact the old definition of pride). In a healthy individual, the transcendent subject – the “I” – should be the parent to the self’s child. That’s an analogy, of course, but apparently a very useful one as I’m far from the first to come up with it.

    Long ago, it seems people intuitively understood this concept, but it’s foreign to most people today. Take for example the distinction between “will” and “shall.” I will used to have a clearly different meaning from I shall, and implied an agency above the mere self. Hardly anyone uses that today, which says something to me about how our concept of the self has changed over time.

    • Thanks: Twinkie
  73. Wow, this sounds exactly like my trans friend. Exactly, even to the claims about their “sudden” revelation of womanhood, the rigidity of character, the complete lack of any real femininity, and the strangely old-school ideas about women in general. So odd. Luckily, my friend has no children. The only reason for this sort of insanity that makes any sense to me (beyond the certainty of fetish behavior in private) is something I read about Eddie Izzard: he lost his mom early and said he felt comforted in women’s clothes. Now that I can believe. My friend lost her mom too, and was raised by female relatives without a father.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    @Red Pill Angel

    What do you mean, "their “sudden” revelation of womanhood..."? Are you talking about one guy, or one girl, or how many?? I'd actually rather someone use the "her" for someone who's still a man, and vice versa, then the damned feminist pronoun stupidity that's been with us for decades (3 or 4). It's even more confusing.

    Listen, in English, the pronoun for 3rd person is "he" if you don't know the sex. If you do, which you do, then you write the one that matches.

    It's the same as James Kennett's "They have no chance of ever becoming a convincing woman..." higher up. Guys, I know this is done a lot, but can you all do it right for the Conservatives here on iSteve, please?

    Replies: @Red Pill Angel, @Reg Cæsar

  74. @Achmed E. Newman
    @Jim Don Bob

    I wish more Americans could have visited China going back before the Kung Flu Panic and now the Totalitarianism of Mao II, aka, the Pooh Bear. I really enjoyed it there, Jim Don, and I bet you would have too.

    OTOH, Africa and India too, no thanks. I saw one Seinfeld episode about the latter. That was enough.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_sUMtHcUMWo

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @The Germ Theory of Disease

    …and now the Totalitarianism of Mao II, aka, the Pooh Bear.

    Related, the meathead next door has a generous side. Did you know North Korea had its own native breed?

    Kim Jong-un dogs end up at South Korean zoo after care costs row

    Ex-South Korean leader plans to give up dogs from North Korea’s Kim

  75. @Jim Don Bob
    @The Germ Theory of Disease

    Paul Theroux (sp?) is good too. I've read Dark Star about his return to Africa years after being there in the Peace Corps and Riding the Iron Rooster about traveling by train in China.

    The two books saved me a lot of money because they convinced me that I never wanted to go to either place.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @Jack D, @Harry Baldwin, @YetAnotherAnon, @sb

    The Iron Rooster was a steam train that Theroux rode in 1987. Today China has high speed trains that put to shame anything that you could ride in America. In the last 35 years, China has made a century of progress (while we have mostly gone backwards) so basing your desire not to visit China on a book from 35 years ago is like basing your views of England on something that Dickens wrote.

    Right now there are lots of good reasons not to visit China but they have nothing to do with Theroux’s experience in 1987. China is literally not the same country that it was 35 years ago.

    • Replies: @Jim Don Bob
    @Jack D

    My most vivid memory from PT's book is the incessant smoking and spitting of the Chinese.

    I endured several years of crowds, rudeness, noise, and dirt in NYC. I go back sometimes for the opera but I have had my fill of all four.

    Replies: @Jack D

  76. @Reg Cæsar
    @Pixo


    Elon Musk is both a macho 🦓⛳ and self-identifies as having ASD. He isn’t trans (yet) but one of his sons is.
     
    Choosing to go by the unisex "Vivian". He was Xavier before that. So why not "XXavier"?

    Wilson is mother's maiden name, and conveniently "anonymous", as Mrs C refers to her own equally common maiden name. (She happily took mine, though was bothered by the spelling. Damn Palatines!)

    David Bowie's kids go by his birth surname, Jones. Under the radar. Norah Shankar goes by her mother's surname, also Jones.

    The only male Vivian I can think of on this side of the Pond is Jay Vivian Chambers, who changed that to Whittaker. One Victor Stanshall reversed his father's name change, becoming Vivian himself. Here is this Viv and his band in delicious blackface:

    https://youtu.be/9HeEFxgktVg

    Replies: @kaganovitch, @Harry Baldwin

    The only male Vivian I can think of on this side of the Pond is Jay Vivian Chambers, who changed that to Whittaker.

    There are several Caribbean Vivians but that’s onviously Limey influence. The only American I found was dis guy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vivian_Wilson_Henderson

  77. @Kylie
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11527307/Ex-Navy-SEAL-transitioned-male-female-says-hes-transitioning-BACK.html?ito=native_share_article-top

    I've gone from genuine tolerance of these creatures to a profound aversion to them. This has less to do with the physical aspects of their transition, ridiculous and unseemly though they are, than it does with disgust at their arrogance. You don't get to become whoever or whatever you want to be merely by deciding that's who or what you are. And you don't get to demand that others kowtow to you by treating your laughable delusions as if they were facts.

    I don't wish any of these self-mutilating freaks well.

    Replies: @AndrewR, @Bill Jones, @anonymous, @AnotherDad, @Prester John, @Anonymous, @Edward Dett

    To this crowd mere “toleration” no longer cuts it.

    From deviancy and freakdom to celebrity–all within a span of 50 years or so. How the worm has turned!

    A symptom of a society plunging headlong into the abyss.

    • Agree: Kylie
  78. @Red Pill Angel
    Wow, this sounds exactly like my trans friend. Exactly, even to the claims about their "sudden" revelation of womanhood, the rigidity of character, the complete lack of any real femininity, and the strangely old-school ideas about women in general. So odd. Luckily, my friend has no children. The only reason for this sort of insanity that makes any sense to me (beyond the certainty of fetish behavior in private) is something I read about Eddie Izzard: he lost his mom early and said he felt comforted in women's clothes. Now that I can believe. My friend lost her mom too, and was raised by female relatives without a father.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

    What do you mean, “their “sudden” revelation of womanhood…”? Are you talking about one guy, or one girl, or how many?? I’d actually rather someone use the “her” for someone who’s still a man, and vice versa, then the damned feminist pronoun stupidity that’s been with us for decades (3 or 4). It’s even more confusing.

    Listen, in English, the pronoun for 3rd person is “he” if you don’t know the sex. If you do, which you do, then you write the one that matches.

    It’s the same as James Kennett’s “They have no chance of ever becoming a convincing woman…” higher up. Guys, I know this is done a lot, but can you all do it right for the Conservatives here on iSteve, please?

    • Replies: @Red Pill Angel
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Oh, are you po'd I called my friend "she"? Well, it's a difficult situation, really it is. It's impossible. He's nuts, no doubt about it. If it makes you feel any better, I forget and call him "he" to his face most of the time. This is someone I've known for 45 years who stood by my husband and me in tough times so I try to be kind. To >him.<

    To clarify maybe: The "their" in my previous comment referred to my trans friend AND Jan Morris.

    The suddenness of the apparent revelation of their "womanhood" (I should have put in the quotes before) refers to the MtoF trans who just "poof" one day say they're women. It sounds like gaslighting to me. I have been unable to get anywhere in questioning my friend beyond "poof" he's a girl now.

    I agree with you about the feminist bs. Rad fems started the whole sexual deconstruction of men 50 years ago, and now the TERFs are up in arms that they're the ones being deconstructed. What goes around comes around.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

    , @Reg Cæsar
    @Achmed E. Newman


    What do you mean, “their “sudden” revelation of womanhood…”? Are you talking about one guy, or one girl, or how many??
     
    Angel is talking about Morris and his own friend. That's two right there.

    Listen, in English, the pronoun for 3rd person is “he” if you don’t know the sex.
     
    As the old headmasters would say, "The masculine embraces the feminine."

    Back when I still believed Churchill originated the quip (he merely used it in debate), I thought that it was a more elegant statement than anything any feminist had said in 150 years.

    Ideology is corrosive. As the Gear Daddies put it,

    http://www.geardaddies.com/Uploads/CHNN%20500x500%20300x300.jpg

    Replies: @Red Pill Angel

  79. @prime noticer
    Scorpions 1977
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFbgHPjFYvQ
    the Axis eliminated this stuff in the 1930s, it took an Allied victory and time passing all the way into the 1970s for it to return to europe. then longer for it get to America. showed up in metropolitan cities first, as most insane things do.
    Aerosmith 1987
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nf0oXY4nDxE

    Replies: @TelfoedJohn

  80. @Achmed E. Newman
    @Red Pill Angel

    What do you mean, "their “sudden” revelation of womanhood..."? Are you talking about one guy, or one girl, or how many?? I'd actually rather someone use the "her" for someone who's still a man, and vice versa, then the damned feminist pronoun stupidity that's been with us for decades (3 or 4). It's even more confusing.

    Listen, in English, the pronoun for 3rd person is "he" if you don't know the sex. If you do, which you do, then you write the one that matches.

    It's the same as James Kennett's "They have no chance of ever becoming a convincing woman..." higher up. Guys, I know this is done a lot, but can you all do it right for the Conservatives here on iSteve, please?

    Replies: @Red Pill Angel, @Reg Cæsar

    Oh, are you po’d I called my friend “she”? Well, it’s a difficult situation, really it is. It’s impossible. He’s nuts, no doubt about it. If it makes you feel any better, I forget and call him “he” to his face most of the time. This is someone I’ve known for 45 years who stood by my husband and me in tough times so I try to be kind. To >him.<

    To clarify maybe: The “their” in my previous comment referred to my trans friend AND Jan Morris.

    The suddenness of the apparent revelation of their "womanhood" (I should have put in the quotes before) refers to the MtoF trans who just "poof" one day say they're women. It sounds like gaslighting to me. I have been unable to get anywhere in questioning my friend beyond "poof" he's a girl now.

    I agree with you about the feminist bs. Rad fems started the whole sexual deconstruction of men 50 years ago, and now the TERFs are up in arms that they're the ones being deconstructed. What goes around comes around.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    @Red Pill Angel


    To clarify maybe: The “their” in my previous comment referred to my trans friend AND Jan Morris.
     
    I tried to figure that out, but "revelation" was singular - however that type of sentence construction is difficult to get right on the plurality ('s?) anyway. Thanks.

    I'm sorry about your husband's good friend too. I've only known 2 guys that did this stunt - one was barely an acquaintance at a company with probably thousands of people that I'd run into, so I didn't really follow up. The other was a guy I knew better, and I found out 2 years or more later, when I didn't know him anymore. He had seemed like a very normal family man.

    Finally, yeah, it's not my battle to bother interfering with, fems v trannies. As stupid as the tranny thing is, and as humiliating it is for people told to act like it's all normal, feminism has done far more damage to the American family over that 1/2 a century.
  81. @Achmed E. Newman
    @Jim Don Bob

    I wish more Americans could have visited China going back before the Kung Flu Panic and now the Totalitarianism of Mao II, aka, the Pooh Bear. I really enjoyed it there, Jim Don, and I bet you would have too.

    OTOH, Africa and India too, no thanks. I saw one Seinfeld episode about the latter. That was enough.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_sUMtHcUMWo

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @The Germ Theory of Disease

    “OTOH, Africa and India too, no thanks.”

    The great problem for us in these times is, That is precisely what all the Africans and Indians think, as well.

    • Agree: Old Prude
    • LOL: Kylie
  82. @S Johnson
    @Bill B.

    Strongly male personalities enjoy exerting power by making others uncomfortable or forcing them to go along with absurdities. The ne plus ultra of this would seem to be dressing as a woman and having everyone else recognize your made-up identity. It’s difficult for most females, who are much more conformist, to understand why someone would ever behave like this, so they assume it must be sincere gender-related anguish and react accordingly.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    Right. Assholes. The kid who farts in your face and dares you to do something about it. The man who puts on female clothes and dares you to laugh. It’s the same asshole mentality.

  83. @Twinkie
    @Bill P


    The mature sense that “I must control myself” is replaced by a sense that all control is being imposed by some external nemesis, such as “society,” “the patriarchy,” “white supremacy,” “heteronormativity” etc. So therefore whatever the selfish desire may be, no matter how vile or preposterous, any check on it is purely due to external tyranny that must be destroyed.
     
    Agree!

    We should love ourselves, but in the way a parent loves a child. If instead we put our “I” at the service of our “self” it leads to all sorts of disorder and deviation from truth, just as it would if a parent allowed a small child to be his/her master.
     
    I think I know what you mean here and tend to agree, but I do not care for this construction of "self-love." I tend to think that it's not so much that we should "love ourselves" so much as be able to accept love from others, be it from God or other human beings.

    Replies: @Bill P, @Unintended Consequence

    I just find it preposterous that Twinkie and Bill P. are suddenly so insightful about a topic we could label “introspective theology”. But, really, coming from Sailer regulars like yourselves (no pun intended), this comes across more as “satanic verses”. Are the both of you quite alright?

    • Replies: @Bill P
    @Unintended Consequence

    Sure I'm fine. After spending much of my life trying to figure out the world around me, I eventually realized that true understanding requires self knowledge. It's very difficult to get to know yourself (I've been at it for six years now and there's no end in sight), but it's highly rewarding. You should give it a try.

  84. @Carol
    @mc23

    FtM are really pathetic. The ones I've seen posting on reddit all seem to be quite short, and overweight in a lot of cases. Just what kind of "man" do they think they are going to be? T supps can do only so much.

    About as esthetically appealing as a 6-4 trans woman.

    You'd think the first barroom beatdown would disabuse them of their self confidence. But alas they know better than to go around actual men.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    Someone here commented that he really liked F-to-M transsexualism, because it turned aggressive obnoxious women into timid submissive ‘men’.

  85. Morris was a very good writer, both as a reporter and then as an author. He had some other good attributes, but those were sort of drowned out by his pathologies. Especially sad how he treated his family.

    So it goes.

    “Oh! blessed a thousand times over is the peasant who is born, eats and dies without anybody bothering about his affairs.” — Giuseppe Verdi

  86. @Achmed E. Newman
    @Red Pill Angel

    What do you mean, "their “sudden” revelation of womanhood..."? Are you talking about one guy, or one girl, or how many?? I'd actually rather someone use the "her" for someone who's still a man, and vice versa, then the damned feminist pronoun stupidity that's been with us for decades (3 or 4). It's even more confusing.

    Listen, in English, the pronoun for 3rd person is "he" if you don't know the sex. If you do, which you do, then you write the one that matches.

    It's the same as James Kennett's "They have no chance of ever becoming a convincing woman..." higher up. Guys, I know this is done a lot, but can you all do it right for the Conservatives here on iSteve, please?

    Replies: @Red Pill Angel, @Reg Cæsar

    What do you mean, “their “sudden” revelation of womanhood…”? Are you talking about one guy, or one girl, or how many??

    Angel is talking about Morris and his own friend. That’s two right there.

    Listen, in English, the pronoun for 3rd person is “he” if you don’t know the sex.

    As the old headmasters would say, “The masculine embraces the feminine.”

    Back when I still believed Churchill originated the quip (he merely used it in debate), I thought that it was a more elegant statement than anything any feminist had said in 150 years.

    Ideology is corrosive. As the Gear Daddies put it,

    • Replies: @Red Pill Angel
    @Reg Cæsar

    Yes, thanks, you understood my previous comment correctly, but you misgendered me! I need to find a safe space now.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

  87. @Reg Cæsar
    @Achmed E. Newman


    What do you mean, “their “sudden” revelation of womanhood…”? Are you talking about one guy, or one girl, or how many??
     
    Angel is talking about Morris and his own friend. That's two right there.

    Listen, in English, the pronoun for 3rd person is “he” if you don’t know the sex.
     
    As the old headmasters would say, "The masculine embraces the feminine."

    Back when I still believed Churchill originated the quip (he merely used it in debate), I thought that it was a more elegant statement than anything any feminist had said in 150 years.

    Ideology is corrosive. As the Gear Daddies put it,

    http://www.geardaddies.com/Uploads/CHNN%20500x500%20300x300.jpg

    Replies: @Red Pill Angel

    Yes, thanks, you understood my previous comment correctly, but you misgendered me! I need to find a safe space now.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Red Pill Angel


    Yes, thanks, you understood my previous comment correctly, but you misgendered me! I need to find a safe space now.
     
    Ach! I was careful about avoiding the first pronoun, and missed the second! Terribly sorry. It's so hard to navigate.

    Replies: @Red Pill Angel

  88. Do normies know what goes on at a strip club for men? Do they understand that the performances, at minimum, are meant to sexually arouse the audience? In exchange for money, that is, a mild form of prostitution, usually with the opportunity to move on to actual sex?

    Do normies know what goes on at Grindr, gay bar, bathhouse, rest stop?

    Do normies know that the motive for transgender or drag is the sexual arousal of the performer?

    Do normies know that drag performance, which mimics female erotic dance, is intended to sexually arouse the audience? That mutual arousal is the goal? That for children to tip the performer signifies the child as the sexual client of the drag prostitute?

    Are normies just stunningly ignorant about these matters? Is what they know about sex only from Lifetime movies, or what?

    Can normies explain why libraries don’t publicize, host, and celebrate biologically female adult strippers? Or, better, underage girl strippers? Gender expression is sacrosanct, right? So why not?

    Are heterosexuals innocent? No, some parents are obsessed with child beauty pageants, and they easily veer into sexualization. https://www.detailedpedia.com/wiki-Sexualization_in_child_beauty_pageants#. Some differences are that audiences aren’t forced to attend, that the activity is not celebrated as noble and brave, or purportedly protected by civil rights laws. Most people who learn about them deplore them, with no pushback. Child beauty pageants are banned in France, and should be at least socially policed here.

    • Replies: @Renard
    @New Dealer


    Do normies know that drag performance, which mimics female erotic dance, is intended to sexually arouse the audience? That mutual arousal is the goal?
     
    Hmm. I've been to a couple drag performances. The goal was clearly to LOL at the performer (and we did), and absolutely no one was getting aroused. Although I didn't check the back row of the audience--anything's possible I suppose.

    Of course this was many years ago. Times change.

    Replies: @New Dealer

    , @Curle
    @New Dealer

    “Can normies explain why libraries don’t publicize, host, and celebrate biologically female adult strippers?”

    Strippers expect to get paid for appearances.

    Replies: @New Dealer, @JR Ewing

    , @Veteran Aryan
    @New Dealer


    No, some parents are obsessed with child beauty pageants, and they easily veer into sexualization.
     
    I was dragged to one of these events long ago, and it was downright creepy and disturbing. Very similar to the new Dupixent commercial, which is the current bee under my bonnet: https://i.ibb.co/wgYGT1t/dupixent.jpg Seriously, WTF?

    Replies: @New Dealer

    , @J.Ross
    @New Dealer

    John Travolta was on NPR recently commenting on how families think of Saturday Night Fever as some sort of harmless family film, by largely ignoring or misremembering it, when it's actually shockingly obscene (he adds that nobody remembers the birth control stuff in Grease). This confusion over the apparently willing ignorance of people who just want to grill is the common symbol of the encounter with the NPC.

    , @John Johnson
    @New Dealer

    Do normies know that drag performance, which mimics female erotic dance, is intended to sexually arouse the audience? That mutual arousal is the goal?

    That actually isn't the goal.

    Drag isn't sexual even if it appears to be.

    Gay men aren't attracted to fat gay men dressed up as celebrity women and neither are straight men.

    It's really just a form of entertainment. Not my cup of tea but it isn't about sexual arousal.

    Can normies explain why libraries don’t publicize, host, and celebrate biologically female adult strippers?

    Because the homeless wouldn't tip them.

    Replies: @RadicalCenter, @YetAnotherAnon, @New Dealer

  89. XBardon Kaldlan [AKA "Bardon Kaldlan"] says:
    @Auld Alliance
    @PiltdownMan

    I read the Pax Britannica books a long time ago and the Fisher book too - all great, as you say. I think of Morris more as a historian than a travel writer too.

    Replies: @XBardon Kaldlan

    Well sir,by a funny coincidence,I read Conundrum many years ago,probably in the 80s. It just happened to be displayed on a rack at some long gone bookstore/ porn shop.
    I seem to recall being very interested in his male life; the female,not so much.
    The only solid memory I have of this weird book is that it failed to encourage much sympathy for or belief in transex.
    The only one I was aware of,besides ” Jan”,was of course Christine Jorgensen. We were blessedly short on trannies in those days.

    • Replies: @Rohirrimborn
    @XBardon Kaldlan

    If you're old enough to know Christine Jorgensen then I'm sure you know about Renee Richards a very well known 70s era tranny. Renee was my eye doc Richard Raskind pre-transistion.

    Replies: @XBardon Kaldlan

  90. Uh oh. SBF under arrest!😮

  91. OT — The Attorney General of the Bahamas has announced the arrest of Sam Bankman-Fried, following information that the US is likely to ask for his extradition.
    The only question: did he burn tribemembers and modern nabobs, or just ordinaries? Is the Bai Dien regime recognizing that there has to at least be a “trial,” or is there actually going to ge a real trial?

    • Replies: @Curle
    @J.Ross

    “or is there actually going to ge a real trial?”

    And will the charges be designed to obscure the most dangerous of the crimes a la Maxwell?

    , @kaganovitch
    @J.Ross

    Is the Bai Dien regime recognizing that there has to at least be a “trial,” or is there actually going to ge a real trial?

    'Suicide' is always an option.

    Replies: @J.Ross

  92. @Gordo
    @PiltdownMan

    Fisher was know to his colleagues as “The Malay” as they suspected mixed blood.

    Has anyone read Morris’s book on Fisher? Is it worth buying?

    Replies: @John, @PiltdownMan, @Bill Jones

    I read it some years ago. It was OK. Some ado about little, I’d call it. Most of Morris’s books were on that scale, and likeable for that reason, at least to me. I think Fisher had had a long exemplary peacetime naval career but funked it at a critical point in WWI. That was the climax of Morris’s book.

    Almost but not quite totally unrelated, I’m working on a post for Ricochet about 1950s travel books, of which I have read only a few. Were there only a few? Maybe. My specific inspiration is Erico Verissimo’s book about Mexico. Somehow, this Brazilian found quite a lot to say.

    • Thanks: Gordo
  93. @Jim Don Bob
    @The Germ Theory of Disease

    Paul Theroux (sp?) is good too. I've read Dark Star about his return to Africa years after being there in the Peace Corps and Riding the Iron Rooster about traveling by train in China.

    The two books saved me a lot of money because they convinced me that I never wanted to go to either place.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @Jack D, @Harry Baldwin, @YetAnotherAnon, @sb

    The two books saved me a lot of money because they convinced me that I never wanted to go to either place.

    There is a genre of travel writing whose goal seems to be to reassure non-travelers that staying at home is the right decision. I put Bill Bryson in that category. His book A Walk in the Woods persuaded me that I don’t want to hike the Appalachian Trail and his book In a Sunburned Country eliminated any interest I had in visiting Australia.

    • Replies: @sb
    @Harry Baldwin

    If we're honest few Americans have much interest in foreign travel
    Other nationalities are different

    Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease, @Curle

    , @Old Prude
    @Harry Baldwin

    A Walk in the Woods was the first book I burned. A book about hiking the App. Trail, where the author quits before he makes it to Katadin. But wait! There's more! He decides to drive up to Baxter State Park to climb the mountain... and he quits again... WTF? I was so disgusted by this loser making money off his failure I threw the book on the burn pile.

    , @Muggles
    @Harry Baldwin


    his book In a Sunburned Country eliminated any interest I had in visiting Australia.
     
    That and The Fatal Shore are the only two books about Australia I have ever read. Both pretty good for their time.

    As far as I know, they are the only two books on Australia ever written, by anyone.

    Neither was written by an Australian. Sunburned was written by American humorist Bryson and Fatal Shore by Brit historian Robert Hughes.

    The cultural/intellectual pool there appears to be pretty shallow.

    Replies: @Ed Case, @sb, @Art Deco

  94. On different occasions I had a fairly close look at Jan Morris and Barry Humphries, each time at book signing events. Jan Morris might have passed muster as a lesbian. Dame Edna was one of the funniest women I ever saw.

  95. It is disheartening to see mental illness or, at the very least, emotional instability being glamorized and presented as normal and desirable. I wonder what my no nonsense Dad with his complete lack of patience for bullshit would say about this ridiculousness. Actually, I know what he would say: He would rail against the acceptance of crazy behavior and no doubt would tell me I better not come around him with any of that silliness.

    • Replies: @JR Ewing
    @Enemy of Earth


    I wonder what my no nonsense Dad with his complete lack of patience for bullshit would say about this ridiculousness. Actually, I know what he would say: He would rail against the acceptance of crazy behavior and no doubt would tell me I better not come around him with any of that silliness.
     
    This is the right way to deal with it; fathers telling their sons when they are young to knock that shit off and other elder figures in society calling it out for what it is and shunning and shaming those who promote it. My dad did it and I do it to my two boys. You tell them what is acceptable and unacceptable and you promise negative consequences for the latter.

    Our whole society is too permissive of aberrant behavior - not just trans insanity, but homosexuals, criminals, drugs abusers, homelessness, et al - mostly because the democrats have determined that pandering to such "minorities" allows them to drive an ideological wedge between white men and women to peel off some extra votes. And we are now far enough along that a substantial portion of men have never been exposed to a traditional male authority figure and have never been taught the civilized way of doing things.

  96. OT — Brinton out. Our nation’s nuclear waste no longer benefits from his non-binary expertise. If only there had been some manner of warning sign that he was a %@#$ing freak.
    https://www.dailysignal.com/2022/12/12/breaking-department-of-energy-says-sam-brinton-is-no-longer-a-doe-employee/

    • Replies: @Veteran Aryan
    @J.Ross


    If only there had been some manner of warning sign that he was a %@#$ing freak.
     
    That's been my catchphrase for the last few weeks on many different topics. "If only there had been some kind of red flag..."
  97. Transgender Author James / Jan Morris’s Daughter: “I Never Felt Any Femininity in Her.”

    This is Mridul Wadhwa, director of the Edinburgh Rape Crisis Centre:

    I do detect femininity in “her”. The kind that is endemic to the men of the Hindoo race. J K Rowling just funded and established an alternative shelter in Edinburgh, in which women will not have to put up with the likes of Wadhwa.

    Mridul means “tender, delicate, soft, gentle”. It is a boy’s name.

    • Replies: @Mactoul
    @Reg Cæsar

    There are plenty of Hindi names which are used both for boys and girls.

    Replies: @PiltdownMan

  98. @New Dealer
    Do normies know what goes on at a strip club for men? Do they understand that the performances, at minimum, are meant to sexually arouse the audience? In exchange for money, that is, a mild form of prostitution, usually with the opportunity to move on to actual sex?

    Do normies know what goes on at Grindr, gay bar, bathhouse, rest stop?

    Do normies know that the motive for transgender or drag is the sexual arousal of the performer?

    Do normies know that drag performance, which mimics female erotic dance, is intended to sexually arouse the audience? That mutual arousal is the goal? That for children to tip the performer signifies the child as the sexual client of the drag prostitute?

    Are normies just stunningly ignorant about these matters? Is what they know about sex only from Lifetime movies, or what?

    Can normies explain why libraries don’t publicize, host, and celebrate biologically female adult strippers? Or, better, underage girl strippers? Gender expression is sacrosanct, right? So why not?

    Are heterosexuals innocent? No, some parents are obsessed with child beauty pageants, and they easily veer into sexualization. https://www.detailedpedia.com/wiki-Sexualization_in_child_beauty_pageants#. Some differences are that audiences aren’t forced to attend, that the activity is not celebrated as noble and brave, or purportedly protected by civil rights laws. Most people who learn about them deplore them, with no pushback. Child beauty pageants are banned in France, and should be at least socially policed here.

    Replies: @Renard, @Curle, @Veteran Aryan, @J.Ross, @John Johnson

    Do normies know that drag performance, which mimics female erotic dance, is intended to sexually arouse the audience? That mutual arousal is the goal?

    Hmm. I’ve been to a couple drag performances. The goal was clearly to LOL at the performer (and we did), and absolutely no one was getting aroused. Although I didn’t check the back row of the audience–anything’s possible I suppose.

    Of course this was many years ago. Times change.

    • Replies: @New Dealer
    @Renard

    https://www.msdmanuals.com/home/mental-health-disorders/paraphilias-and-paraphilic-disorders/transvestism

  99. Tried tuning in the Chicago Police Department frequencies (460 Mhz) and was greeted by digital signals. Apparently, CPD has fully transitioned to encrypted P.25 digital to shut off the public from nefarious police activities like failure to protect lawful protests.

    Note that the Chicago News Media is only interested in THEMSELVES being able to access CPD transmissions, and NOT the taxpayers paying for this police insolence.

    What useless Chicago Alderman will defend the citizen’s right to monitor their public servants?

    Widespread P.25 encryption prevents the taxpayer from listening to their public servants.

    Like blinding the public to the world.

    • Replies: @cityview
    @Joe Stalin

    Thank you for posting this, although I thought this decision was the mayor's? I know the police department had talked about going to encryption some time ago, as some of the Chicago suburbs already have. I think it is a terrible decision. All Chicagoans citywide should be able to hear these channels in real time, twenty-four hours a day.

  100. @New Dealer
    Do normies know what goes on at a strip club for men? Do they understand that the performances, at minimum, are meant to sexually arouse the audience? In exchange for money, that is, a mild form of prostitution, usually with the opportunity to move on to actual sex?

    Do normies know what goes on at Grindr, gay bar, bathhouse, rest stop?

    Do normies know that the motive for transgender or drag is the sexual arousal of the performer?

    Do normies know that drag performance, which mimics female erotic dance, is intended to sexually arouse the audience? That mutual arousal is the goal? That for children to tip the performer signifies the child as the sexual client of the drag prostitute?

    Are normies just stunningly ignorant about these matters? Is what they know about sex only from Lifetime movies, or what?

    Can normies explain why libraries don’t publicize, host, and celebrate biologically female adult strippers? Or, better, underage girl strippers? Gender expression is sacrosanct, right? So why not?

    Are heterosexuals innocent? No, some parents are obsessed with child beauty pageants, and they easily veer into sexualization. https://www.detailedpedia.com/wiki-Sexualization_in_child_beauty_pageants#. Some differences are that audiences aren’t forced to attend, that the activity is not celebrated as noble and brave, or purportedly protected by civil rights laws. Most people who learn about them deplore them, with no pushback. Child beauty pageants are banned in France, and should be at least socially policed here.

    Replies: @Renard, @Curle, @Veteran Aryan, @J.Ross, @John Johnson

    “Can normies explain why libraries don’t publicize, host, and celebrate biologically female adult strippers?”

    Strippers expect to get paid for appearances.

    • Replies: @New Dealer
    @Curle

    Web search: library drag queen paid

    Result: multiple hits

    For example:
    https://nypost.com/2022/06/11/over-200k-being-spent-on-drag-queen-shows-at-nyc-schools/


    Last month alone, Drag Story Hour NYC — a nonprofit whose outrageously cross-dressed performers interact with kids as young as 3 — earned $46,000 from city contracts for appearances at public schools, street festivals, and libraries, city records show.
     
    Plus, they solicit tips.

    Replies: @Curle

    , @JR Ewing
    @Curle


    “Can normies explain why libraries don’t publicize, host, and celebrate biologically female adult strippers?”

    Strippers expect to get paid for appearances.
     
    Female strippers also have plenty of interest in their services elsewhere - about 50% of the population, iykwim - and don't need a captive audience.
  101. @Danindc
    @HammerJack

    Where do you run across these wackos? I have designed my life so I’ve never even met any gay men. It’s fun to laugh at them on Twitter but you should never put yourself in a position to interact with them. You should’ve planned better.

    Replies: @Renard, @John Johnson

    You live in Washington DC and never encounter any gay men? Do you stay in your basement 24/7? And is your gaydar really that foolproof??

  102. @HammerJack
    Q: How many Americans would you guess are on Medicaid now?

    https://archive.ph/i6Gnu.
    WSJ editorial, well worth reading.

    100 million. 100 f*ing million.

    Replies: @Jim Don Bob, @Art Deco

    Q: How many Americans would you guess are on Medicaid now?

    100 million. 100 f*ing million.

    So? There are 40+ “Americans” getting food stamps.

    More than half the people in this country get more from the government than they contribute and the Ds make sure they vote.

  103. @Jack D
    @Jim Don Bob

    The Iron Rooster was a steam train that Theroux rode in 1987. Today China has high speed trains that put to shame anything that you could ride in America. In the last 35 years, China has made a century of progress (while we have mostly gone backwards) so basing your desire not to visit China on a book from 35 years ago is like basing your views of England on something that Dickens wrote.

    Right now there are lots of good reasons not to visit China but they have nothing to do with Theroux's experience in 1987. China is literally not the same country that it was 35 years ago.

    Replies: @Jim Don Bob

    My most vivid memory from PT’s book is the incessant smoking and spitting of the Chinese.

    I endured several years of crowds, rudeness, noise, and dirt in NYC. I go back sometimes for the opera but I have had my fill of all four.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @Jim Don Bob

    The Chinese still smoke and spit more than Americans but probably less than they did in 1987. Americans used to smoke and spit more also.

    Shanghai makes NY seem like a small town by comparison. The skyscrapers stretch to the horizon. But what's lacking is the sense of menace that you feel in NY or any big US city. No crazy homeless people on the street and stinking up subway cars. You can walk down any street at any hour of the day or night and not fear getting mugged.

    I wouldn't trade it for NY or China for America - the flaws outweigh the benefits, esp. now that Xi has cracked down (10 years ago the bargain that as long as you stayed out of politics the authorities would leave you alone to live your life and get rich was more intact) but it's not quite the same as NY because it's much less violent than American cities. Tokyo even more so. All of Japan has 300 murders/year, which is about the same as the number in Chicago in 6 months - in other words the murder rate in Chicago is 100x greater than in Japan.

    Replies: @Chrisnonymous

  104. @BB753
    There's not enough rope in the world to hang all the psychiatrists who sanction trans-ops and for the surgeons who perform such operations. It's really criminal.

    Replies: @kaganovitch

    There’s not enough rope in the world to hang all the psychiatrists who sanction trans-ops and for the surgeons who perform such operations.

    I would bet there is. It’s an empirical question, though, so a regime of robust experimentation is called for.

    • LOL: BB753
    • Replies: @J.Ross
    @kaganovitch

    The Muslim method for testing for latent homosexuality (and/or gravity defiance) requires no rope, and, in fact, would only be complicated by rope.

  105. @James N. Kennett
    @Auld Alliance


    Had not realised that Morris was 6 feet 4. A big, er, person.
     
    It is sad to see a M2F transgender person who was previously a tall man with a stocky build. They have no chance of ever becoming a convincing woman, and it is highly likely that their friends, family, and doctors told them so before they transitioned.

    Eddie Izzard is weird in a different way. He describes himself as a "lesbian trapped in a man's body". This sounds like the self-description of an autogynephiliac.

    Replies: @Curle, @YetAnotherAnon

    “They have no chance of ever becoming a convincing woman”

    Agree. I watched a portion of that Jan dude’s interview and there were no tell-tale signs: no curveball responses to direct questions; no using men as props to impress her friends; never once asked with a tone of disapproval “why are you wearing that?”; no encyclopedic recollection of every burden ever borne because of some man’s thoughtlessness. This guy is no woman.

  106. @Reg Cæsar
    @Pixo


    Elon Musk is both a macho 🦓⛳ and self-identifies as having ASD. He isn’t trans (yet) but one of his sons is.
     
    Choosing to go by the unisex "Vivian". He was Xavier before that. So why not "XXavier"?

    Wilson is mother's maiden name, and conveniently "anonymous", as Mrs C refers to her own equally common maiden name. (She happily took mine, though was bothered by the spelling. Damn Palatines!)

    David Bowie's kids go by his birth surname, Jones. Under the radar. Norah Shankar goes by her mother's surname, also Jones.

    The only male Vivian I can think of on this side of the Pond is Jay Vivian Chambers, who changed that to Whittaker. One Victor Stanshall reversed his father's name change, becoming Vivian himself. Here is this Viv and his band in delicious blackface:

    https://youtu.be/9HeEFxgktVg

    Replies: @kaganovitch, @Harry Baldwin

    Vivian Stanshall was a founding member of the Bonzo Dog Band, one of the great novelty song groups.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Harry Baldwin

    Bonzo Dog Doo Dah Band. That's them in the video. They also did “Can Blue Men Sing the Whites” and "Death Cab for Cutie".

  107. Anonymous[240] • Disclaimer says:
    @Achmed E. Newman
    @Anonymous


    She has every right to point out the pervert’s hypocrisy.
     
    Sure she does. However, what's more important is to point out how stupid, weird, and arrogant* the whole "tranny" thing is to begin with. She didn't do that.

    .

    * The stupid part is the thinking that one can truly change sexes. The weird part is something we all know but is not part of the current narrative. The arrogant part is their telling us we are not to believe the whole thing is both stupid and weird.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    Sure she does. However, what’s more important is to point out how stupid, weird, and arrogant* the whole “tranny” thing is to begin with. She didn’t do that.

    Not that many are brave enough to take such a public stand nowadays. She’s probably going to get enough grief for saying this much. Going further would be the right thing to do, but it’s not an easy decision. Of course, I can’t claim to know what she truly thinks, but I could understand fearing the prospect of one’s life changing seriously for the worse, possibly forever. Sure, troons are not quite cartoon-crazed Islamists, but they are highly aggressive, highly influential, highly obsessive, and beyond unwell. Bravery is sadly rare. Still, even if she’s truly one of those refusing to get it, I’m glad she put even this much out there. It exposes “Jan” and his worthless ilk to all not purposefully unwilling to see.

    But also… Going any further would mean her indictment of her piece of shit father would fall on deaf ears, at least when it comes to so-called polite society, i. e. the vast majority of people who had not already written the pervert off (as a person, if not as a writer). And if I were her, I’d certainly very much want to take a crap on the depraved scumbag’s memory, and try to make it stick as much as possible. So, even if that were the motivation, I could hardly fault her for it.

    • Thanks: Achmed E. Newman
  108. @Harry Baldwin
    @Reg Cæsar

    Vivian Stanshall was a founding member of the Bonzo Dog Band, one of the great novelty song groups.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    Bonzo Dog Doo Dah Band. That’s them in the video. They also did “Can Blue Men Sing the Whites” and “Death Cab for Cutie”.

  109. @Colin Wright
    @AndrewR

    'I’d have more sympathy for the regime narrative about transgenderism if they also allowed transracialism. But despite constantly telling us that race is only a “social construct,” they clearly have very essentialist views about race.'

    Oh, I dunno. Take Susan Rice.

    Or take Kamala Harris. I make her as half Indian, about three-eighths white, and about one-eighth black. Yet she is 'black.' After all, she'd hardly have been chosen to be Vice President if it had been decided she was Indian, or white.

    It's actually an irony. For all the carrying on about privileging blacks, damned few 100% black blacks ever benefit. All the bennies go to all these mulatto creatures, usually from middling to privileged backgrounds to begin with. Take Obama: half-white, went to the most exclusive private school in Hawaii, from there to private colleges, finishing up at Harvard.

    Yep: a real latter-day Up from Slavery. There might or might not be an argument for helping actual blacks. I don't think there is, but I understand the position. But why on earth should people who have a pretty good start in life to begin with, are only debatably 'black,' and have never been held down in any way get put on the magic escalator?

    Not only is it all a lot of crap, but it's almost invariably a lie to begin with. None of these people are oppressed anything. Clarence Thomas stands out as the exception who proves the rule. He's about the only actual black in the bunch -- and sure enough. He may not be an intellectual star in our firmament, but at least he's not a lying pain in the ass.

    Replies: @Truth, @SF, @Reg Cæsar, @AndrewR

    Or take Kamala Harris. I make her as half Indian, about three-eighths white, and about one-eighth black. Yet she is ‘black.’

    In other words, “she makes my woody-worm come to life, and gosh diggy-darnit, I need an excuse!”

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
    @Truth

    'In other words, “she makes my woody-worm come to life, and gosh diggy-darnit, I need an excuse!”'

    No fear.

  110. @New Dealer
    Do normies know what goes on at a strip club for men? Do they understand that the performances, at minimum, are meant to sexually arouse the audience? In exchange for money, that is, a mild form of prostitution, usually with the opportunity to move on to actual sex?

    Do normies know what goes on at Grindr, gay bar, bathhouse, rest stop?

    Do normies know that the motive for transgender or drag is the sexual arousal of the performer?

    Do normies know that drag performance, which mimics female erotic dance, is intended to sexually arouse the audience? That mutual arousal is the goal? That for children to tip the performer signifies the child as the sexual client of the drag prostitute?

    Are normies just stunningly ignorant about these matters? Is what they know about sex only from Lifetime movies, or what?

    Can normies explain why libraries don’t publicize, host, and celebrate biologically female adult strippers? Or, better, underage girl strippers? Gender expression is sacrosanct, right? So why not?

    Are heterosexuals innocent? No, some parents are obsessed with child beauty pageants, and they easily veer into sexualization. https://www.detailedpedia.com/wiki-Sexualization_in_child_beauty_pageants#. Some differences are that audiences aren’t forced to attend, that the activity is not celebrated as noble and brave, or purportedly protected by civil rights laws. Most people who learn about them deplore them, with no pushback. Child beauty pageants are banned in France, and should be at least socially policed here.

    Replies: @Renard, @Curle, @Veteran Aryan, @J.Ross, @John Johnson

    No, some parents are obsessed with child beauty pageants, and they easily veer into sexualization.

    I was dragged to one of these events long ago, and it was downright creepy and disturbing. Very similar to the new Dupixent commercial, which is the current bee under my bonnet:

    [MORE]
    Seriously, WTF?

    • Replies: @New Dealer
    @Veteran Aryan

    Yeah, WTF, that's an eczema commercial? Nubile strippers in their Las Vegas dressing room?

    Youtube comments are turned off, wonder why.

  111. @Gordo
    @PiltdownMan

    Fisher was know to his colleagues as “The Malay” as they suspected mixed blood.

    Has anyone read Morris’s book on Fisher? Is it worth buying?

    Replies: @John, @PiltdownMan, @Bill Jones

    I bought a copy and it was worth it. A couple of other comments above agree that it is worth reading.

    I’ve pretty much stopped buying books of late. My public library system is pretty good, and I’m able to find almost anything I want to read in it, even if, sometimes, I have to reserve it and wait for a while.

    • Replies: @Kylie
    @PiltdownMan

    "I’ve pretty much stopped buying books of late. My public library system is pretty good, and I’m able to find almost anything I want to read in it...."

    Do you read books online? A lot of good books are available for free online. Google books, Project Gutenberg, Faded Page, the Internet Archive, etc. If I'm interested in a book, I Google the title and pdf.

    You probably know all this but it bears repeating.

    Replies: @Jack D

    , @anonymous
    @PiltdownMan

    Your public library system almost certainly does not buy any books from Mystery Grove Press (Wrangel, Junger) or even many Dover books (the anti-surrealist Jimenez, the historian of philosophy Marias), and you are missing out on many good views of recent and not so recent history by relying on your little public Democratic party affiliate library for a good choice of books (by the way I am not saying I am a big fan of Wrangel or Junger - I prefer other Russians, other Germans, as witnesses of truth --- just saying their point of view is mostly left out for EVERYONE who relies on the public libraries). (The Fairfax Public Library system, for example, which is paid for by the million plus taxpayers in Northern Virginia who live in Fairfax Country, does not have a single copy of Nobel -prize winning anti-surrealist Jimenez's famous book about Platero, at this moment, or even the Dover Press middle of the road, non-leftist history of philosophy by Marias, last time I checked).

  112. @Reg Cæsar

    Transgender Author James / Jan Morris's Daughter: "I Never Felt Any Femininity in Her."

     
    This is Mridul Wadhwa, director of the Edinburgh Rape Crisis Centre:


    https://cdn2.opendemocracy.net/media/images/UpdatedImage.max-1520x1008.jpg


    I do detect femininity in "her". The kind that is endemic to the men of the Hindoo race. J K Rowling just funded and established an alternative shelter in Edinburgh, in which women will not have to put up with the likes of Wadhwa.

    Mridul means "tender, delicate, soft, gentle". It is a boy's name.

    Replies: @Mactoul

    There are plenty of Hindi names which are used both for boys and girls.

    • Replies: @PiltdownMan
    @Mactoul

    Doing a Google image search on "Mridul" brings up pictures of men. Doing a Google image search on "Mridula" brings up pictures of women. Mridul seems to be a last name, too.

    Replies: @Mactoul

  113. @Red Pill Angel
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Oh, are you po'd I called my friend "she"? Well, it's a difficult situation, really it is. It's impossible. He's nuts, no doubt about it. If it makes you feel any better, I forget and call him "he" to his face most of the time. This is someone I've known for 45 years who stood by my husband and me in tough times so I try to be kind. To >him.<

    To clarify maybe: The "their" in my previous comment referred to my trans friend AND Jan Morris.

    The suddenness of the apparent revelation of their "womanhood" (I should have put in the quotes before) refers to the MtoF trans who just "poof" one day say they're women. It sounds like gaslighting to me. I have been unable to get anywhere in questioning my friend beyond "poof" he's a girl now.

    I agree with you about the feminist bs. Rad fems started the whole sexual deconstruction of men 50 years ago, and now the TERFs are up in arms that they're the ones being deconstructed. What goes around comes around.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

    To clarify maybe: The “their” in my previous comment referred to my trans friend AND Jan Morris.

    I tried to figure that out, but “revelation” was singular – however that type of sentence construction is difficult to get right on the plurality (‘s?) anyway. Thanks.

    I’m sorry about your husband’s good friend too. I’ve only known 2 guys that did this stunt – one was barely an acquaintance at a company with probably thousands of people that I’d run into, so I didn’t really follow up. The other was a guy I knew better, and I found out 2 years or more later, when I didn’t know him anymore. He had seemed like a very normal family man.

    Finally, yeah, it’s not my battle to bother interfering with, fems v trannies. As stupid as the tranny thing is, and as humiliating it is for people told to act like it’s all normal, feminism has done far more damage to the American family over that 1/2 a century.

    • Agree: Red Pill Angel
  114. @Renard
    @New Dealer


    Do normies know that drag performance, which mimics female erotic dance, is intended to sexually arouse the audience? That mutual arousal is the goal?
     
    Hmm. I've been to a couple drag performances. The goal was clearly to LOL at the performer (and we did), and absolutely no one was getting aroused. Although I didn't check the back row of the audience--anything's possible I suppose.

    Of course this was many years ago. Times change.

    Replies: @New Dealer

  115. @Curle
    @New Dealer

    “Can normies explain why libraries don’t publicize, host, and celebrate biologically female adult strippers?”

    Strippers expect to get paid for appearances.

    Replies: @New Dealer, @JR Ewing

    Web search: library drag queen paid

    Result: multiple hits

    For example:
    https://nypost.com/2022/06/11/over-200k-being-spent-on-drag-queen-shows-at-nyc-schools/

    Last month alone, Drag Story Hour NYC — a nonprofit whose outrageously cross-dressed performers interact with kids as young as 3 — earned $46,000 from city contracts for appearances at public schools, street festivals, and libraries, city records show.

    Plus, they solicit tips.

    • Replies: @Curle
    @New Dealer

    I suspect the New York library system is an outlier. Payment didn’t make the news in my patch when these weirdos created a stir by reserving a local library room and inviting parents to bring their kids.

    Replies: @RadicalCenter

  116. @Colin Wright
    @AndrewR

    'I’d have more sympathy for the regime narrative about transgenderism if they also allowed transracialism. But despite constantly telling us that race is only a “social construct,” they clearly have very essentialist views about race.'

    Oh, I dunno. Take Susan Rice.

    Or take Kamala Harris. I make her as half Indian, about three-eighths white, and about one-eighth black. Yet she is 'black.' After all, she'd hardly have been chosen to be Vice President if it had been decided she was Indian, or white.

    It's actually an irony. For all the carrying on about privileging blacks, damned few 100% black blacks ever benefit. All the bennies go to all these mulatto creatures, usually from middling to privileged backgrounds to begin with. Take Obama: half-white, went to the most exclusive private school in Hawaii, from there to private colleges, finishing up at Harvard.

    Yep: a real latter-day Up from Slavery. There might or might not be an argument for helping actual blacks. I don't think there is, but I understand the position. But why on earth should people who have a pretty good start in life to begin with, are only debatably 'black,' and have never been held down in any way get put on the magic escalator?

    Not only is it all a lot of crap, but it's almost invariably a lie to begin with. None of these people are oppressed anything. Clarence Thomas stands out as the exception who proves the rule. He's about the only actual black in the bunch -- and sure enough. He may not be an intellectual star in our firmament, but at least he's not a lying pain in the ass.

    Replies: @Truth, @SF, @Reg Cæsar, @AndrewR

    Indians are at least half descended from Indo European tribes who moved southeast, and always used to be categorized as caucasian.

  117. @J.Ross
    OT -- The Attorney General of the Bahamas has announced the arrest of Sam Bankman-Fried, following information that the US is likely to ask for his extradition.
    The only question: did he burn tribemembers and modern nabobs, or just ordinaries? Is the Bai Dien regime recognizing that there has to at least be a "trial," or is there actually going to ge a real trial?

    Replies: @Curle, @kaganovitch

    “or is there actually going to ge a real trial?”

    And will the charges be designed to obscure the most dangerous of the crimes a la Maxwell?

  118. @Veteran Aryan
    @New Dealer


    No, some parents are obsessed with child beauty pageants, and they easily veer into sexualization.
     
    I was dragged to one of these events long ago, and it was downright creepy and disturbing. Very similar to the new Dupixent commercial, which is the current bee under my bonnet: https://i.ibb.co/wgYGT1t/dupixent.jpg Seriously, WTF?

    Replies: @New Dealer

    Yeah, WTF, that’s an eczema commercial? Nubile strippers in their Las Vegas dressing room?

    Youtube comments are turned off, wonder why.

  119. @The Germ Theory of Disease
    Travel writer? he sounds like more of a straight-up pro reporter. Travel writers don't "break" news stories or "scoop" anybody, they invite you into some formerly undisclosed world.

    Me, I'm more of a Bruce Chatwin/Redmond O'Hanlon fan myself.

    MFK Fisher's book on Marseilles is also very good, as is all of her stuff.

    Never read any of it, but I'm told that the medieval Islamic and Chinese worlds produced a lot of good traveler's descriptions of foreign lands and people.

    Also for a real hoot, you have to read a 19-century British militarist and imperialist's account, "On Horseback Through Asia Minor." It's not just travel writing, it's time-travel writing.

    Replies: @Jim Don Bob, @YetAnotherAnon, @Big Bill

    Fred Burnaby, the author of “Asia Minor” as well as “A Ride to Khiva” was a Man’s Man. Tissot painted a famous and truly breathtaking portrait of him. He must have stood 6′ 4″ or so.

    He volunteered for the British expedition to rescue Chinese Gordon and for the Relief of Khartoum.

    Fred died fighting the Mahdi’s desert troops, IIRC.

    Fred was killed in the desert in the Battle of Abu Klea, and songs were written about his tragic death.

    Quite a popular figure.

    IIRC, he also sailed over the English Channel in a balloon.

    Google “Tissot Burnaby” and look at images.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Big Bill

    It's a great picture, but you can see right away why photography eclipsed painting in the late 19th century. For a tiny fraction of the cost and time, you could have produced an almost as good (black and white) image of the same scene.

    Ironically, computers are now doing the same to professional photographers. CGI is devastating the profession. Photography forums are full of wailing about this. But that's progress.

    Replies: @J.Ross

    , @The Germ Theory of Disease
    @Big Bill

    "Google “Tissot Burnaby” and look at images."

    Interesting portrait, but the face looks like something out of Balthus, which I'm sure the subject would not have appreciated.

    Also, love the wildly inaccurate medieval-era map on the wall in the background.

  120. @Mactoul
    @Reg Cæsar

    There are plenty of Hindi names which are used both for boys and girls.

    Replies: @PiltdownMan

    Doing a Google image search on “Mridul” brings up pictures of men. Doing a Google image search on “Mridula” brings up pictures of women. Mridul seems to be a last name, too.

    • Replies: @Mactoul
    @PiltdownMan

    Mridul for woman's name is certainly uncommon but equally it is a possible woman's name.

  121. @J.Ross
    OT -- The Attorney General of the Bahamas has announced the arrest of Sam Bankman-Fried, following information that the US is likely to ask for his extradition.
    The only question: did he burn tribemembers and modern nabobs, or just ordinaries? Is the Bai Dien regime recognizing that there has to at least be a "trial," or is there actually going to ge a real trial?

    Replies: @Curle, @kaganovitch

    Is the Bai Dien regime recognizing that there has to at least be a “trial,” or is there actually going to ge a real trial?

    ‘Suicide’ is always an option.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    @kaganovitch

    He's being taken supposedly to the same jail that held Epstein. The one where none of the security cameras work.

  122. TG stuff may belong to psychologically caused abnormalities, unlike “purely” genetic:

    Swyer syndrome : https://medlineplus.gov/genetics/condition/swyer-syndrome/ ( XY, vagina, no uterus, no periods, no breasts – Britney Griner?)

    https://novonordiskfonden.dk/en/news/more-women-than-expected-are-genetically-men/

    More Women Than Expected Are Genetically Men

    Morris syndrome: https://medlineplus.gov/genetics/condition/androgen-insensitivity-syndrome/

    Klinefelter syndrome: https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/klinefelters-syndrome/ (XXY, male)

    https://rarediseases.org/rare-diseases/xyy-syndrome/ (XYY, male)

    • Replies: @TWS
    @Bardon Kaldian

    Since the 'expected' number is zero or close to it, there almost has to be more than expected.

  123. @kaganovitch
    @J.Ross

    Is the Bai Dien regime recognizing that there has to at least be a “trial,” or is there actually going to ge a real trial?

    'Suicide' is always an option.

    Replies: @J.Ross

    He’s being taken supposedly to the same jail that held Epstein. The one where none of the security cameras work.

  124. Anonymous[427] • Disclaimer says:
    @Kylie
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11527307/Ex-Navy-SEAL-transitioned-male-female-says-hes-transitioning-BACK.html?ito=native_share_article-top

    I've gone from genuine tolerance of these creatures to a profound aversion to them. This has less to do with the physical aspects of their transition, ridiculous and unseemly though they are, than it does with disgust at their arrogance. You don't get to become whoever or whatever you want to be merely by deciding that's who or what you are. And you don't get to demand that others kowtow to you by treating your laughable delusions as if they were facts.

    I don't wish any of these self-mutilating freaks well.

    Replies: @AndrewR, @Bill Jones, @anonymous, @AnotherDad, @Prester John, @Anonymous, @Edward Dett

    Any of them embracing it publicly is waging war on all that is good and must be CRUSHED.
    That said, most of these people have been abused and misled horribly by others.
    When they surrender unconditionally to truth and take up the active fight againt their abusers, wish them the best.
    IMO.

  125. @Jim Don Bob
    @The Germ Theory of Disease

    Paul Theroux (sp?) is good too. I've read Dark Star about his return to Africa years after being there in the Peace Corps and Riding the Iron Rooster about traveling by train in China.

    The two books saved me a lot of money because they convinced me that I never wanted to go to either place.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @Jack D, @Harry Baldwin, @YetAnotherAnon, @sb

    Always get the impression of Paul Theroux being an arrogant type.

    I presume it’s his son who’s made a career of persuading people to make fools of themselves (doubtless with a fair bit of editing help) in front of a camera.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @YetAnotherAnon

    Paul Theroux is a little bit misanthropic like his mentor Naipaul.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

  126. @James N. Kennett
    @Auld Alliance


    Had not realised that Morris was 6 feet 4. A big, er, person.
     
    It is sad to see a M2F transgender person who was previously a tall man with a stocky build. They have no chance of ever becoming a convincing woman, and it is highly likely that their friends, family, and doctors told them so before they transitioned.

    Eddie Izzard is weird in a different way. He describes himself as a "lesbian trapped in a man's body". This sounds like the self-description of an autogynephiliac.

    Replies: @Curle, @YetAnotherAnon

    “He describes himself as a “lesbian trapped in a man’s body”.”

    Isn’t that jut a standard male joke, an ironic “you should really pity me” remark?

    I’d heard that thirty years back, before I’d ever heard of Izzard.

    • Agree: Achmed E. Newman
  127. OT – today’s Guardian

    WWH – “Why some Black women won’t or can’t quit hair relaxers – even as the dangers become clearer”

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/dec/12/black-women-hair-relaxers-chemicals-cancer-risk

    “‘Cultural appropriation’: discussion builds over western yoga industry. Practitioners fear Indian culture has been ‘suppressed by colonisation’ while some question accessibility”

    https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2022/dec/12/cultural-appropriation-discussion-builds-over-western-yoga-industry

    Yoga has been a big part of Nadia Gilani’s life since she was introduced to the practice by her mother at the age of 16. A few years ago, after various personal struggles, she became a full-time yoga teacher.

    But almost immediately, she realised not only were most yoga teachers and students in the UK white, but the accompanying wellness narrative has divorced yoga from its 5,000-year-old roots.

    “The lack of people of colour in the industry is a massive problem,” Gilani said. “There is a big issue with diversity, in terms of both teachers and those who practice it. What especially annoys me is when Sanskrit words like ‘namaste’ get emblazoned on T-shirts, images of Hindu gods are turned into tattoos, or ‘om’ symbols are printed on yoga mats. It’s cultural appropriation and it’s offensive.”

    I think I’m going to appropriate this “personal struggle” stuff, which seems to run the gamut from a lousy job or unsatisfactory relationship to serious drug addiction or a prison sentence.

    “Now, your CV is a little sparse when it comes to your 20s – could you go into a little more detail?”

    “Various personal struggles, which I’m not prepared to go into, out of respect for the victims”

  128. @YetAnotherAnon
    @Jim Don Bob

    Always get the impression of Paul Theroux being an arrogant type.

    I presume it's his son who's made a career of persuading people to make fools of themselves (doubtless with a fair bit of editing help) in front of a camera.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    Paul Theroux is a little bit misanthropic like his mentor Naipaul.

    • Agree: PiltdownMan
    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Steve Sailer


    Paul Theroux is a little bit misanthropic like his mentor Naipaul.
     
    Quite fun when you do it right. From Gulliver's Travels and Ambrose Bierce to Florence King.
  129. @Colin Wright
    @AndrewR

    'I’d have more sympathy for the regime narrative about transgenderism if they also allowed transracialism. But despite constantly telling us that race is only a “social construct,” they clearly have very essentialist views about race.'

    Oh, I dunno. Take Susan Rice.

    Or take Kamala Harris. I make her as half Indian, about three-eighths white, and about one-eighth black. Yet she is 'black.' After all, she'd hardly have been chosen to be Vice President if it had been decided she was Indian, or white.

    It's actually an irony. For all the carrying on about privileging blacks, damned few 100% black blacks ever benefit. All the bennies go to all these mulatto creatures, usually from middling to privileged backgrounds to begin with. Take Obama: half-white, went to the most exclusive private school in Hawaii, from there to private colleges, finishing up at Harvard.

    Yep: a real latter-day Up from Slavery. There might or might not be an argument for helping actual blacks. I don't think there is, but I understand the position. But why on earth should people who have a pretty good start in life to begin with, are only debatably 'black,' and have never been held down in any way get put on the magic escalator?

    Not only is it all a lot of crap, but it's almost invariably a lie to begin with. None of these people are oppressed anything. Clarence Thomas stands out as the exception who proves the rule. He's about the only actual black in the bunch -- and sure enough. He may not be an intellectual star in our firmament, but at least he's not a lying pain in the ass.

    Replies: @Truth, @SF, @Reg Cæsar, @AndrewR

    [Clarence Thomas] may not be an intellectual star in our firmament…

    Plain common sense is underrated. He’s undoing damage wrought by those “smarter” than he.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    @Reg Cæsar

    Thank you, Reg. I meant to write back to Mr. Wright yesterday. He's a pretty smart guy anyway, but all the guy needs to be able to do is read the Constitution. He does that and a lot better than most of those black-robed fools. I hope he lives to be 110.

    Replies: @Curle

  130. @Red Pill Angel
    @Reg Cæsar

    Yes, thanks, you understood my previous comment correctly, but you misgendered me! I need to find a safe space now.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    Yes, thanks, you understood my previous comment correctly, but you misgendered me! I need to find a safe space now.

    Ach! I was careful about avoiding the first pronoun, and missed the second! Terribly sorry. It’s so hard to navigate.

    • Thanks: Red Pill Angel
    • Replies: @Red Pill Angel
    @Reg Cæsar

    No harm done!

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

  131. @Steve Sailer
    @YetAnotherAnon

    Paul Theroux is a little bit misanthropic like his mentor Naipaul.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    Paul Theroux is a little bit misanthropic like his mentor Naipaul.

    Quite fun when you do it right. From Gulliver’s Travels and Ambrose Bierce to Florence King.

  132. @PiltdownMan
    @Mactoul

    Doing a Google image search on "Mridul" brings up pictures of men. Doing a Google image search on "Mridula" brings up pictures of women. Mridul seems to be a last name, too.

    Replies: @Mactoul

    Mridul for woman’s name is certainly uncommon but equally it is a possible woman’s name.

  133. @Colin Wright
    @AndrewR

    'I’d have more sympathy for the regime narrative about transgenderism if they also allowed transracialism. But despite constantly telling us that race is only a “social construct,” they clearly have very essentialist views about race.'

    Oh, I dunno. Take Susan Rice.

    Or take Kamala Harris. I make her as half Indian, about three-eighths white, and about one-eighth black. Yet she is 'black.' After all, she'd hardly have been chosen to be Vice President if it had been decided she was Indian, or white.

    It's actually an irony. For all the carrying on about privileging blacks, damned few 100% black blacks ever benefit. All the bennies go to all these mulatto creatures, usually from middling to privileged backgrounds to begin with. Take Obama: half-white, went to the most exclusive private school in Hawaii, from there to private colleges, finishing up at Harvard.

    Yep: a real latter-day Up from Slavery. There might or might not be an argument for helping actual blacks. I don't think there is, but I understand the position. But why on earth should people who have a pretty good start in life to begin with, are only debatably 'black,' and have never been held down in any way get put on the magic escalator?

    Not only is it all a lot of crap, but it's almost invariably a lie to begin with. None of these people are oppressed anything. Clarence Thomas stands out as the exception who proves the rule. He's about the only actual black in the bunch -- and sure enough. He may not be an intellectual star in our firmament, but at least he's not a lying pain in the ass.

    Replies: @Truth, @SF, @Reg Cæsar, @AndrewR

    The one-drop rule is 100% essentialism – a very stupid, illogical form, but essentialism nonetheless. Obama and Kamala and Rice have benefitted from this rule whereas in previous centuries they would have been disadvantaged by it or tried to hide it. But the definition of who is “black” seems identical to that of 200 years ago.

    • Agree: JR Ewing
    • Replies: @Colin Wright
    @AndrewR

    'The one-drop rule is 100% essentialism – a very stupid, illogical form, but essentialism nonetheless. Obama and Kamala and Rice have benefitted from this rule whereas in previous centuries they would have been disadvantaged by it or tried to hide it. But the definition of who is “black” seems identical to that of 200 years ago.'

    I have to admit that where the metal meets the meat, I subscribe to the one-drop rule myself, but at the same time, what benefits a Megan Markle or a Barack Obama doesn't really do much for your average 100% black, decidedly Simian ghetto black black. It's a bit like handing out free copies of Einstein on physics to first-graders -- not really going to do any good.

    It's one of the most irritating things about all this. Aside from all the ethical problems and practical drawbacks, it does nil to nothing for 99% of the population supposed to be the beneficiaries. Aside from everything else, the sheer stupidity and dishonesty of it all gets to me. Cory Booker et al did not need a hand up.

  134. @Jim Don Bob
    @The Germ Theory of Disease

    Paul Theroux (sp?) is good too. I've read Dark Star about his return to Africa years after being there in the Peace Corps and Riding the Iron Rooster about traveling by train in China.

    The two books saved me a lot of money because they convinced me that I never wanted to go to either place.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @Jack D, @Harry Baldwin, @YetAnotherAnon, @sb

    Reading Paul Theroux always makes me contemplate the relationship between misanthropy and xenophobia

  135. @Zero Philosopher
    Maybe deep down this desire to "be a girl" is just a desire to have been treated better as a child and to have received more love and understanding from parents and Society at large. Lots of young males resent all the pampering and protection that is given to girls and that is denied to them since they are small children.

    Many boys look at the way that their sisters are treated, how much more understanding their parents are of their sisters, how much more tolerant they are of their weaknesses and flaws, and how much gentler they are treated, and deep down they seeth with resentment over it. They are not even allowed to complain about it, because "whining" is unmanly. For instance, parents are far more likely to strike their sons than their daughters, and this is true for both fathers and mothers.

    Boys learn from a young age that, as the biologically more "disposable" sex, that Society doesn't care about their well-being as much as it cares about that of females, and that they come to this World to fight to affirm themselves. Unlike females, that have value from birth due to being the resource-limiting factor in reproduction. It is totally unfair at the Human, individual level.

    At the level of Society at large, you see this bias. Women are far more likely to receive custody of children in divorce settling, they receive much lighter sentences for the same crime, etc. A male murderer is far more likely to receive the needle than a female murderer. Even today, despite 50 years of feminism, police, figher fighters and such still have the "women and children" first policy, and the lives of females are given priority over that of males during rescues, etc. Even Steve Sailer showed his bias in his article on the rescue of Jessica Lynch, stating that it constitutes "healthy instincts" to risk the lives of several young men to save the life of one female. Many males resent this supreme, unearned status that is given to females over them.

    Society treats young males like crap, and expect them to go along with it. Consider, for instance how, in every state of the Union, girls are protected from genital cutting by law, even from a needle prick, while boys are not given any protection. In fact, male circumcision of non-consenting boys is ubiquitous and nobody cares. Doing that to a baby girl would be considered totally barbaric and unacceptable, but doing it to boys is totally fine. And the reason why it's totally fine is because people are just not as protective of males as they are of females.

    So at the root of transexualism is a desire for more status. If you have a strong ego and levels of self-esteem, you are going to resent having been born into the gender with the lower social status. "Wanting to be a girl" is actually "wanting to have the higher biological status of a female and all the pampering that comes with it".

    Replies: @Yngvar

    Consider, for instance how, in every state of the Union, girls are protected from genital cutting by law..

    Not true.

    “Currently, there is anti-FGM legislation in only 40 states, meaning that 10 STATES HAVE YET TO CRIMINALIZE FGM.”
    (https://www.theahafoundation.org/female-genital-mutilation-fgm-in-the-us/fgm-legislation-by-state/)

    • Replies: @Zero Philosopher
    @Yngvar

    Yes, "only" 40 states, given that there is a total of 50 states. Literal-minded idiot.

  136. @Unintended Consequence
    @Twinkie

    I just find it preposterous that Twinkie and Bill P. are suddenly so insightful about a topic we could label "introspective theology". But, really, coming from Sailer regulars like yourselves (no pun intended), this comes across more as "satanic verses". Are the both of you quite alright?

    Replies: @Bill P

    Sure I’m fine. After spending much of my life trying to figure out the world around me, I eventually realized that true understanding requires self knowledge. It’s very difficult to get to know yourself (I’ve been at it for six years now and there’s no end in sight), but it’s highly rewarding. You should give it a try.

  137. @Harry Baldwin
    @Jim Don Bob

    The two books saved me a lot of money because they convinced me that I never wanted to go to either place.

    There is a genre of travel writing whose goal seems to be to reassure non-travelers that staying at home is the right decision. I put Bill Bryson in that category. His book A Walk in the Woods persuaded me that I don't want to hike the Appalachian Trail and his book In a Sunburned Country eliminated any interest I had in visiting Australia.

    Replies: @sb, @Old Prude, @Muggles

    If we’re honest few Americans have much interest in foreign travel
    Other nationalities are different

    • Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease
    @sb

    "few Americans have much interest in foreign travel
    Other nationalities are different"

    Other nationalities have much interest in foreign travel, all right. The problem is, they only travel in one direction, and once they travel here, they never travel back home.

    , @Curle
    @sb

    I’d be interested in a comparison based on distance. Lots of Brits have traveled to sunny Spain just as lots of Washingtonians and Oregonians have traveled to sunny California. London to Ibiza is a shorter distance than Seattle to LA and English speakers have no problems in Ibiza.

    What percent of Americans vs Europeans have traveled more than 2,000 miles distance?

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon

  138. @New Dealer
    Do normies know what goes on at a strip club for men? Do they understand that the performances, at minimum, are meant to sexually arouse the audience? In exchange for money, that is, a mild form of prostitution, usually with the opportunity to move on to actual sex?

    Do normies know what goes on at Grindr, gay bar, bathhouse, rest stop?

    Do normies know that the motive for transgender or drag is the sexual arousal of the performer?

    Do normies know that drag performance, which mimics female erotic dance, is intended to sexually arouse the audience? That mutual arousal is the goal? That for children to tip the performer signifies the child as the sexual client of the drag prostitute?

    Are normies just stunningly ignorant about these matters? Is what they know about sex only from Lifetime movies, or what?

    Can normies explain why libraries don’t publicize, host, and celebrate biologically female adult strippers? Or, better, underage girl strippers? Gender expression is sacrosanct, right? So why not?

    Are heterosexuals innocent? No, some parents are obsessed with child beauty pageants, and they easily veer into sexualization. https://www.detailedpedia.com/wiki-Sexualization_in_child_beauty_pageants#. Some differences are that audiences aren’t forced to attend, that the activity is not celebrated as noble and brave, or purportedly protected by civil rights laws. Most people who learn about them deplore them, with no pushback. Child beauty pageants are banned in France, and should be at least socially policed here.

    Replies: @Renard, @Curle, @Veteran Aryan, @J.Ross, @John Johnson

    John Travolta was on NPR recently commenting on how families think of Saturday Night Fever as some sort of harmless family film, by largely ignoring or misremembering it, when it’s actually shockingly obscene (he adds that nobody remembers the birth control stuff in Grease). This confusion over the apparently willing ignorance of people who just want to grill is the common symbol of the encounter with the NPC.

  139. @kaganovitch
    @BB753

    There’s not enough rope in the world to hang all the psychiatrists who sanction trans-ops and for the surgeons who perform such operations.

    I would bet there is. It's an empirical question, though, so a regime of robust experimentation is called for.

    Replies: @J.Ross

    The Muslim method for testing for latent homosexuality (and/or gravity defiance) requires no rope, and, in fact, would only be complicated by rope.

  140. Anonymous[413] • Disclaimer says:
    @Big Bill
    @The Germ Theory of Disease

    Fred Burnaby, the author of "Asia Minor" as well as "A Ride to Khiva" was a Man's Man. Tissot painted a famous and truly breathtaking portrait of him. He must have stood 6' 4" or so.

    He volunteered for the British expedition to rescue Chinese Gordon and for the Relief of Khartoum.

    Fred died fighting the Mahdi's desert troops, IIRC.

    Fred was killed in the desert in the Battle of Abu Klea, and songs were written about his tragic death.

    Quite a popular figure.

    IIRC, he also sailed over the English Channel in a balloon.

    Google "Tissot Burnaby" and look at images.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @The Germ Theory of Disease

    It’s a great picture, but you can see right away why photography eclipsed painting in the late 19th century. For a tiny fraction of the cost and time, you could have produced an almost as good (black and white) image of the same scene.

    Ironically, computers are now doing the same to professional photographers. CGI is devastating the profession. Photography forums are full of wailing about this. But that’s progress.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    @Anonymous

    Flowering from the meeting place of AI and (widespread, apolitical, objective) disappointment in what passes for movies nowadays is a new 4chan hobby of conjuring up scenes from movies that never were, but which look like they should have been. You can create entirely novel titles (Chrome Lords, Tree of Chaos, The Last Heist, Akira Kurosawa's Batman starring Toshiro Mifune, Ivan Reitman's remake of His Girl Friday starring Sigourney Weaver and William Petersen, William Friedkin's biopic of Saburo Sakai starring Takeshi Kitano, Clive Barker's film of the pre-Christian practices of the kings of Benin), flesh out actual Hollywood projects which fell through (Paul Verhoeven's Jerusalem starring Arnold Schwartzeneggar), or recast existing movies with their "original" personnel (The Matrix starring Will Smith, Die Hard starring Frank Sinatra).

    Replies: @J.Ross

  141. @XBardon Kaldlan
    @Auld Alliance

    Well sir,by a funny coincidence,I read Conundrum many years ago,probably in the 80s. It just happened to be displayed on a rack at some long gone bookstore/ porn shop.
    I seem to recall being very interested in his male life; the female,not so much.
    The only solid memory I have of this weird book is that it failed to encourage much sympathy for or belief in transex.
    The only one I was aware of,besides " Jan",was of course Christine Jorgensen. We were blessedly short on trannies in those days.

    Replies: @Rohirrimborn

    If you’re old enough to know Christine Jorgensen then I’m sure you know about Renee Richards a very well known 70s era tranny. Renee was my eye doc Richard Raskind pre-transistion.

    • Replies: @XBardon Kaldlan
    @Rohirrimborn

    Yes,its all coming back to me now. Richards was a very good tennis player,she/he 😥 was the first to take on women in competition,though I don't recall the outcomes.
    Mainly I recall Johnny Carson having a lot of fun with this.

  142. @sb
    @Harry Baldwin

    If we're honest few Americans have much interest in foreign travel
    Other nationalities are different

    Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease, @Curle

    “few Americans have much interest in foreign travel
    Other nationalities are different”

    Other nationalities have much interest in foreign travel, all right. The problem is, they only travel in one direction, and once they travel here, they never travel back home.

    • Agree: Harry Baldwin
  143. @Reg Cæsar
    @Colin Wright


    [Clarence Thomas] may not be an intellectual star in our firmament...
     
    Plain common sense is underrated. He's undoing damage wrought by those "smarter" than he.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

    Thank you, Reg. I meant to write back to Mr. Wright yesterday. He’s a pretty smart guy anyway, but all the guy needs to be able to do is read the Constitution. He does that and a lot better than most of those black-robed fools. I hope he lives to be 110.

    • Replies: @Curle
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Reading the constitution isn’t that easy, at least not since 1865. We are talking about a document whose internal logic, true structural federalism, was jettisoned by the post Civil War amendments. Try making sense of the New Testament after removing any mention of Jesus and you might get some sense of the task facing the Supremes.

    Replies: @JR Ewing, @Achmed E. Newman, @Reg Cæsar

  144. @Enemy of Earth
    It is disheartening to see mental illness or, at the very least, emotional instability being glamorized and presented as normal and desirable. I wonder what my no nonsense Dad with his complete lack of patience for bullshit would say about this ridiculousness. Actually, I know what he would say: He would rail against the acceptance of crazy behavior and no doubt would tell me I better not come around him with any of that silliness.

    Replies: @JR Ewing

    I wonder what my no nonsense Dad with his complete lack of patience for bullshit would say about this ridiculousness. Actually, I know what he would say: He would rail against the acceptance of crazy behavior and no doubt would tell me I better not come around him with any of that silliness.

    This is the right way to deal with it; fathers telling their sons when they are young to knock that shit off and other elder figures in society calling it out for what it is and shunning and shaming those who promote it. My dad did it and I do it to my two boys. You tell them what is acceptable and unacceptable and you promise negative consequences for the latter.

    Our whole society is too permissive of aberrant behavior – not just trans insanity, but homosexuals, criminals, drugs abusers, homelessness, et al – mostly because the democrats have determined that pandering to such “minorities” allows them to drive an ideological wedge between white men and women to peel off some extra votes. And we are now far enough along that a substantial portion of men have never been exposed to a traditional male authority figure and have never been taught the civilized way of doing things.

  145. @Curle
    @New Dealer

    “Can normies explain why libraries don’t publicize, host, and celebrate biologically female adult strippers?”

    Strippers expect to get paid for appearances.

    Replies: @New Dealer, @JR Ewing

    “Can normies explain why libraries don’t publicize, host, and celebrate biologically female adult strippers?”

    Strippers expect to get paid for appearances.

    Female strippers also have plenty of interest in their services elsewhere – about 50% of the population, iykwim – and don’t need a captive audience.

  146. I’m intrigued by her comments on Jan’s veracity in writing. We’ve all experienced examples of how great reporters tend to end the truth to a narrative. It’s reaching it’s pinnacle with Shattered Glass but I really see that as more of a trend than an outlier. E.g. look at Sally Jenkins who had zero concern about getting the whole Lance Armstrong story wrong. The narrative (cancer fighter) was so important to her that she ignored evidence and after even Lance admitted it, she said who cares. All of these make me worried that Jan/she/he/it wrote nice prose/narrative, but didn’t really probe for truth and new insights and the careful conveying of them. So, I’d be a little worried about those books y’all love.

    • Replies: @kaganovitch
    @shale boi

    I’m intrigued by her comments on Jan’s veracity in writing. We’ve all experienced examples of how great reporters tend to end the truth to a narrative.

    Dude, Christmas is not the same without 'J' and "B'.

  147. @New Dealer
    @Curle

    Web search: library drag queen paid

    Result: multiple hits

    For example:
    https://nypost.com/2022/06/11/over-200k-being-spent-on-drag-queen-shows-at-nyc-schools/


    Last month alone, Drag Story Hour NYC — a nonprofit whose outrageously cross-dressed performers interact with kids as young as 3 — earned $46,000 from city contracts for appearances at public schools, street festivals, and libraries, city records show.
     
    Plus, they solicit tips.

    Replies: @Curle

    I suspect the New York library system is an outlier. Payment didn’t make the news in my patch when these weirdos created a stir by reserving a local library room and inviting parents to bring their kids.

    • Disagree: RadicalCenter
    • Replies: @RadicalCenter
    @Curle

    We cannot remain this naive and out of touch with the perversion in our kids' faces EVERYwhere.

    NY library system is NOT an outlier. Happens all the time in Los Angeles, Long Beach and many other places in SoCal:

    LOS ANGELES, 2019
    https://news.yahoo.com/drag-queen-reads-children-promotes-033544925.html

    PORTLAND, OREGON
    https://www.nowtheendbegins.com/drag-queen-story-hour-multnomah-county-library-portland-oregon-children-lay-on-top-men-in-dresses-pedophiles/

    HOUSTON, TEXAS
    https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/second-drag-queen-story-hour-library-reader-exposed-as-convicted-child-sex-offender/

    CHICAGO suburbs, ILLINOIS
    https://www.huffpost.com/entry/downers-grove-library-cancels-protested-drag-teen-bingo_n_632090a3e4b0ed021df69ef3

    Time to stop living in a bubble. America is almost over. The people supporting or excusing filthy underhanded brainwashing and perversion of innocent children are very numerous in "our" country, and not just in supposedly unique deviance hotspots like NYC or LA or SF.

    Defund the government schools and government libraries or lawfully sweep the perverts and ideologues out forcefully and permanently.

  148. @Achmed E. Newman
    @Reg Cæsar

    Thank you, Reg. I meant to write back to Mr. Wright yesterday. He's a pretty smart guy anyway, but all the guy needs to be able to do is read the Constitution. He does that and a lot better than most of those black-robed fools. I hope he lives to be 110.

    Replies: @Curle

    Reading the constitution isn’t that easy, at least not since 1865. We are talking about a document whose internal logic, true structural federalism, was jettisoned by the post Civil War amendments. Try making sense of the New Testament after removing any mention of Jesus and you might get some sense of the task facing the Supremes.

    • Thanks: RadicalCenter
    • Replies: @JR Ewing
    @Curle

    This is an excellent comment.

    It's very hard to understand an argument or guideline if the underlying premise isn't accepted or presumed.

    This is part and parcel with the fairly widespread argument that the Civil Rights Acts of the 1960's are a "new constitution". Basically, the Civil War Amendments you mention provide the underlying jurisprudence for the 1960's laws which are incompatible with many of the presumptions within the constitution itself as it was written.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

    , @Achmed E. Newman
    @Curle

    Yeah, Curle, almost all of the Amendments after #10 were bad deals for those who understood the point of the original document. There were 5 of them after the War between the States that forced States to widen voting rights.

    Peak Stupidity has this run-down of all the Amendments after the B.O.R. and discussion of each of them one by one in our Morning Constitutional section. A couple of excerpts:


    Let's look at the gist of these 17 Amendments, #11 through #27, shall we? Only #11, ratified just 3 years after the BoR, #22 to some extent, and #27 on a what's now a minor issue, put any new limitations on Federal power. Amendments 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 23, 24, and 26 give it more power. (Regarding #24, I put it in this group because any power given to the District of Criminals* is more power to the Federal government itself.) That's 10 out of 17, 59% of them, that expand Federal power and only 2 - 3, 12-18%, that decrease it.

    Of the Amendments, numbers 15, 19, 23, 24, and 26, that's 29% of them, expand the franchise to a bigger set of voters.
     


    Three of the Amendments, numbers 12, 20, and 25 read as simple housekeeping - clean up of loose ends in procedures that were not thought out well when the Constitution was drawn up. However, it is questionable that that's what Amendment XII was only about. Then, there is Amendment XVII, which might seem like a simple change in procedure to those who haven't thought much about it, but actually takes away the States' power.

    Amendment XXI was a good one, but that was only because it was not much more than a repeal of the ridiculous Amendment XVIII decreeing alcohol prohibition by the Federal government. (I wrote "not much more", because though #21 doesn't increase Federal power, Section 2 therein encourages more State authoritah.)
     

    Finally:

    Many fairly young people may be surprised to learn that the last Amendment of the Constitution, Amendment XXVII, was ratified during their own lifetimes, in 1992. I'd forgotten about that myself until I wrote the post about it. It's also surprising that this latest one was one of the few and far between good ones***, actually resurrected from one of those articles discussed by the Founders way back in the early '90s, uh, that'd be the 1790s!.
     

    Replies: @Curle

    , @Reg Cæsar
    @Curle


    We are talking about a document whose internal logic, true structural federalism...
     
    The document was deeply flawed from the beginning. There was grossly unequal representation of whites, as if some were more equal than others. Cessation of African immigration was delayed by two decades. Invasion of other states was permitted (cf VP Richard Johnson) and encouraged by the feds and states.

    Most debilitatingly, there was-- and is-- no explicit exit clause. Brexit, in stark contrast, was messy but peaceful; comedy, not tragedy.

    John Lansing and Robert Yates could smell what was coming.


    The First Anti-Federalists - Robert Yates and John Lansing, Jr.

    Robert Yates Storms Out Of The Constitutional Convention


    Expecting to simply revise the Articles of Confederation, Yates was surprised to learn that the Virginia and Pennsylvania delegations were in favor of writing a new Constitution. They wanted to move from a Confederation to a centralized, National Government. Yates was just one of the many representatives who were shocked by this new[s] upon their arrival.
     

    If Washington goes down with Lee, then Madison goes down with Lincoln.

    (Hamilton refused to vote at the Convention-- thanks to Yates and Lansing.)

    Replies: @Curle, @Curle, @John Johnson, @Curle

  149. @Bardon Kaldian
    TG stuff may belong to psychologically caused abnormalities, unlike "purely" genetic:

    Swyer syndrome : https://medlineplus.gov/genetics/condition/swyer-syndrome/ ( XY, vagina, no uterus, no periods, no breasts - Britney Griner?)

    https://novonordiskfonden.dk/en/news/more-women-than-expected-are-genetically-men/

    More Women Than Expected Are Genetically Men

    Morris syndrome: https://medlineplus.gov/genetics/condition/androgen-insensitivity-syndrome/

    Klinefelter syndrome: https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/klinefelters-syndrome/ (XXY, male)

    https://rarediseases.org/rare-diseases/xyy-syndrome/ (XYY, male)

    Replies: @TWS

    Since the ‘expected’ number is zero or close to it, there almost has to be more than expected.

  150. @Jim Don Bob
    @Jack D

    My most vivid memory from PT's book is the incessant smoking and spitting of the Chinese.

    I endured several years of crowds, rudeness, noise, and dirt in NYC. I go back sometimes for the opera but I have had my fill of all four.

    Replies: @Jack D

    The Chinese still smoke and spit more than Americans but probably less than they did in 1987. Americans used to smoke and spit more also.

    Shanghai makes NY seem like a small town by comparison. The skyscrapers stretch to the horizon. But what’s lacking is the sense of menace that you feel in NY or any big US city. No crazy homeless people on the street and stinking up subway cars. You can walk down any street at any hour of the day or night and not fear getting mugged.

    I wouldn’t trade it for NY or China for America – the flaws outweigh the benefits, esp. now that Xi has cracked down (10 years ago the bargain that as long as you stayed out of politics the authorities would leave you alone to live your life and get rich was more intact) but it’s not quite the same as NY because it’s much less violent than American cities. Tokyo even more so. All of Japan has 300 murders/year, which is about the same as the number in Chicago in 6 months – in other words the murder rate in Chicago is 100x greater than in Japan.

    • Replies: @Chrisnonymous
    @Jack D

    I think you mean 100% greater--600/year vs 30,000/year.

    In 2012, I traveled through China. Smoking everywhere. Took sleeper trains, and people smoked at the end of the cars, but left the doors open, so the smoke just passed in. Enough smokers that there was usually someone smoking the whole time.

    Spitting indoors was a rural thing, but very real. I remember one apparent farmer in a train station who spit a huge loogie on the stone floor, and it just sat there glistening. Gross and shocking, but urban life very different.

    If not for Xi and the CCP, China would be the awe of the world now. The only city I didn't like was Canton--filled with African migrants.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

  151. @Arclight
    Purely anecdotal, but my conventional Democrat mother has recently had the scales fall from her eyes on the transgender stuff. She used to accept at face value the language around this, such as referring to Amy Schneider (MtF Jeopardy champ) as a woman, but after a few brief conversations in which she was encouraged to learn more on her own about a) the actual surgery people undergo and maintenance, b) autogynophilia, and c) the frequency of other mental disorders alongside gender dysphoria she is now totally revolted by the entire thing.

    Frankly, like a lot of stuff I think lefty adoption of pro-transgender language and politics is just political tribal signaling with the percentage that actually have some knowledge of what it all entails in the low to mid single digits. Once normie Dems are exposed to actual facts, the mind recoils. So that gives me some hope that as more facts seep into the public sphere there will be a political sea change on WWT.

    Replies: @mc23, @AnotherDad, @JR Ewing

    Frankly, like a lot of stuff I think lefty adoption of pro-transgender language and politics is just political tribal signaling with the percentage that actually have some knowledge of what it all entails in the low to mid single digits. Once normie Dems are exposed to actual facts, the mind recoils. So that gives me some hope that as more facts seep into the public sphere there will be a political sea change on WWT.

    I do think the tranny stuff is so dishonest, ridiculous, vile and ugly–really, really ugly–that it offers conservatives a political opportunity.

    But unless that opportunity is used to take on this whole ridiculous idea that minorities deserve attention and solicitude from normal people, or it will be a pointless victory. For any society/nation to survive the focus of the culture/norms must be for the normal people of that society to maintain and reproduce themselves. This idea that minorities deserve any solicitude from the majority, much less at the head of the queue and must be catered to is just toxic.

    Minoritarianism is what must go wholesale, with its fellow travellers, anti-nationalism, immigrationism. Immigration/borders and disgenic/eugenic fertility will decide the fate of the West. Alone this tranny garbage is just an irritant–though a particularly ugly one.

    • Thanks: Kylie
    • Replies: @Bill Jones
    @AnotherDad

    I like to revert to plain English.
    Sodomite rather than gay. (and if they're so fucking gay why do they kill themselves so often)
    Hermaphrodite rather than trans. (Give me a list of hermaphrodite mammals)

  152. @Gordo
    @PiltdownMan

    Fisher was know to his colleagues as “The Malay” as they suspected mixed blood.

    Has anyone read Morris’s book on Fisher? Is it worth buying?

    Replies: @John, @PiltdownMan, @Bill Jones

    I did,
    It is.
    A window into a vanished civilization.

    • Thanks: Gordo
  153. @Curle
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Reading the constitution isn’t that easy, at least not since 1865. We are talking about a document whose internal logic, true structural federalism, was jettisoned by the post Civil War amendments. Try making sense of the New Testament after removing any mention of Jesus and you might get some sense of the task facing the Supremes.

    Replies: @JR Ewing, @Achmed E. Newman, @Reg Cæsar

    This is an excellent comment.

    It’s very hard to understand an argument or guideline if the underlying premise isn’t accepted or presumed.

    This is part and parcel with the fairly widespread argument that the Civil Rights Acts of the 1960’s are a “new constitution”. Basically, the Civil War Amendments you mention provide the underlying jurisprudence for the 1960’s laws which are incompatible with many of the presumptions within the constitution itself as it was written.

    • Agree: Curle
    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    @JR Ewing

    Right, JR. As per Chris Caldwell's Age of Entitlement, the Civil Rights laws were a re-writing and superseding of the original. It's hard to use the original for decisions if you're going to "respect" the Civil Rights laws. However, we know which are the Law of the Land, so a justice with integrity would use the former. Clarence Thomas is a justice with integrity.

  154. @sb
    @Harry Baldwin

    If we're honest few Americans have much interest in foreign travel
    Other nationalities are different

    Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease, @Curle

    I’d be interested in a comparison based on distance. Lots of Brits have traveled to sunny Spain just as lots of Washingtonians and Oregonians have traveled to sunny California. London to Ibiza is a shorter distance than Seattle to LA and English speakers have no problems in Ibiza.

    What percent of Americans vs Europeans have traveled more than 2,000 miles distance?

    • Replies: @YetAnotherAnon
    @Curle

    Young middle class Brits travel a LOT, as air fares are so much cheaper. Germans are great travellers too.

    Fifty years back Stratford and London would be full of American families. Now they're mostly European or Chinese.

    Replies: @Jack D

  155. @Arclight
    Purely anecdotal, but my conventional Democrat mother has recently had the scales fall from her eyes on the transgender stuff. She used to accept at face value the language around this, such as referring to Amy Schneider (MtF Jeopardy champ) as a woman, but after a few brief conversations in which she was encouraged to learn more on her own about a) the actual surgery people undergo and maintenance, b) autogynophilia, and c) the frequency of other mental disorders alongside gender dysphoria she is now totally revolted by the entire thing.

    Frankly, like a lot of stuff I think lefty adoption of pro-transgender language and politics is just political tribal signaling with the percentage that actually have some knowledge of what it all entails in the low to mid single digits. Once normie Dems are exposed to actual facts, the mind recoils. So that gives me some hope that as more facts seep into the public sphere there will be a political sea change on WWT.

    Replies: @mc23, @AnotherDad, @JR Ewing

    Frankly, like a lot of stuff I think lefty adoption of pro-transgender language and politics is just political tribal signaling with the percentage that actually have some knowledge of what it all entails in the low to mid single digits. Once normie Dems are exposed to actual facts, the mind recoils. So that gives me some hope that as more facts seep into the public sphere there will be a political sea change on WWT.

    This is why Trump is such a gift to the democrats at this point. There is so much personal distaste for him in the population as a whole – some of it unfairly cultivated, some of it deserved – that “normie dems” can’t get past it in order to voice their opposition to the woke nonsense. My wife, a rich white lady who could fairly be described as a “second wave feminist”, said as much to me after the election: “I think I would prefer to vote for republicans on a lot of these issues now, but I just can’t get past how awful Trump is.”

    Frankly, I have reason to believe her. She is increasingly uncomfortable with black and minority preferences, she has concluded that unfettered immigration harms the American working class, and she very much dislikes the homosexualization of society. She is a prime “normie dem” who in the aggregate could put a stop to much of the democrat minoritarian excesses.

    But, fairly or not, the cult of Trump gets in the way and gives license to the democrats by default to keep going.

    • Agree: Harry Baldwin
    • Replies: @RadicalCenter
    @JR Ewing

    She can't vote for people other than Trump because they said good things about Trump or were endorsed by Trump, even though she is realizing that the other side's ideas are even more destructive to our economy, liberties and society. ? Or she can't vote for other Republicans because they're in the same party as Trump? Okayyyyy.

    This level of willful stupidity will continue us down the path to economic and social ruination, disorder, distrust, poverty, and violence.

    The "cult of Trump" means little when he is but a mere mortal, approaching eighty years old, and won't be around too much longer. What matters is who is likely to implement at least somewhat less destructive policies or do damage control to our government debt, household debt, housing cost crisis, medical cost crisis, decaying infrastructure, dumbed-down schools, increasing intimidation and filth in public spaces, etc, not who is endorsed by Trump or rubs little girl voters the wrong way with his "mean words" or "attitude."

    Having said all that, my wife and I don't plan to vote for Trump (or DeSantis) in the 2024 Republican presidential primary, and we don't expect any decent candidates in the general election with any chance of winning (as always).

    , @Curle
    @JR Ewing

    “I think I would prefer to vote for republicans on a lot of these issues now, but I just can’t get past how awful Trump is.”

    Interpretation: social conditioning works. It pays to control the media. Good thing we can trust the media to look out for our interests, eh?

    “fairly or not, the cult of Trump gets in the way and gives license to the democrats by default to keep going.”

    Interpretation: anything that contradicts the authority of the Finance Socialist ruling class = cult and always will. Anyone thinking the next opponent of the Finance Socialist regime (if there ever is one) will improve on Trump’s performance is smoking crack.

    , @Anonymous
    @JR Ewing

    I'll bet your wife also hated Romney for being a vicious dog-abuser...

    Maybe you should consider who plants these ideas in the heads of silly females?

  156. Teresa Smith on twitter has some interesting excerpts from Nora Ephron’s 1974 review of Morris’s Conundrum:

    • Thanks: Gordo
  157. @AnotherDad
    @Arclight


    Frankly, like a lot of stuff I think lefty adoption of pro-transgender language and politics is just political tribal signaling with the percentage that actually have some knowledge of what it all entails in the low to mid single digits. Once normie Dems are exposed to actual facts, the mind recoils. So that gives me some hope that as more facts seep into the public sphere there will be a political sea change on WWT.
     
    I do think the tranny stuff is so dishonest, ridiculous, vile and ugly--really, really ugly--that it offers conservatives a political opportunity.

    But unless that opportunity is used to take on this whole ridiculous idea that minorities deserve attention and solicitude from normal people, or it will be a pointless victory. For any society/nation to survive the focus of the culture/norms must be for the normal people of that society to maintain and reproduce themselves. This idea that minorities deserve any solicitude from the majority, much less at the head of the queue and must be catered to is just toxic.

    Minoritarianism is what must go wholesale, with its fellow travellers, anti-nationalism, immigrationism. Immigration/borders and disgenic/eugenic fertility will decide the fate of the West. Alone this tranny garbage is just an irritant--though a particularly ugly one.

    Replies: @Bill Jones

    I like to revert to plain English.
    Sodomite rather than gay. (and if they’re so fucking gay why do they kill themselves so often)
    Hermaphrodite rather than trans. (Give me a list of hermaphrodite mammals)

  158. @Reg Cæsar
    @Red Pill Angel


    Yes, thanks, you understood my previous comment correctly, but you misgendered me! I need to find a safe space now.
     
    Ach! I was careful about avoiding the first pronoun, and missed the second! Terribly sorry. It's so hard to navigate.

    Replies: @Red Pill Angel

    No harm done!

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Red Pill Angel

    Remember, a "safe space" for them is a minefield for everyone else. We are in a social and intellectual Cambodia.


    https://lp-cms-production.imgix.net/2019-06/fc3c20cb40f54c172f3831269f4d93b7-cambodia-landmine-museum.jpg

  159. @New Dealer
    Do normies know what goes on at a strip club for men? Do they understand that the performances, at minimum, are meant to sexually arouse the audience? In exchange for money, that is, a mild form of prostitution, usually with the opportunity to move on to actual sex?

    Do normies know what goes on at Grindr, gay bar, bathhouse, rest stop?

    Do normies know that the motive for transgender or drag is the sexual arousal of the performer?

    Do normies know that drag performance, which mimics female erotic dance, is intended to sexually arouse the audience? That mutual arousal is the goal? That for children to tip the performer signifies the child as the sexual client of the drag prostitute?

    Are normies just stunningly ignorant about these matters? Is what they know about sex only from Lifetime movies, or what?

    Can normies explain why libraries don’t publicize, host, and celebrate biologically female adult strippers? Or, better, underage girl strippers? Gender expression is sacrosanct, right? So why not?

    Are heterosexuals innocent? No, some parents are obsessed with child beauty pageants, and they easily veer into sexualization. https://www.detailedpedia.com/wiki-Sexualization_in_child_beauty_pageants#. Some differences are that audiences aren’t forced to attend, that the activity is not celebrated as noble and brave, or purportedly protected by civil rights laws. Most people who learn about them deplore them, with no pushback. Child beauty pageants are banned in France, and should be at least socially policed here.

    Replies: @Renard, @Curle, @Veteran Aryan, @J.Ross, @John Johnson

    Do normies know that drag performance, which mimics female erotic dance, is intended to sexually arouse the audience? That mutual arousal is the goal?

    That actually isn’t the goal.

    Drag isn’t sexual even if it appears to be.

    Gay men aren’t attracted to fat gay men dressed up as celebrity women and neither are straight men.

    It’s really just a form of entertainment. Not my cup of tea but it isn’t about sexual arousal.

    Can normies explain why libraries don’t publicize, host, and celebrate biologically female adult strippers?

    Because the homeless wouldn’t tip them.

    • Replies: @RadicalCenter
    @John Johnson

    Do you have children?

    Would you allow your children to attend such an event and be with mentally ill (often surgically mutilated and powerfully drugged) men? Have you?

    Because I hesitate to believe that even someone disingenuous and dishonest as you appear to be in your comments, would do that to innocent children whom you're supposed to be protecting and guiding. I hope not. This should be something we can all agree on.

    Replies: @John Johnson

    , @YetAnotherAnon
    @John Johnson

    What used to be called "female impersonators" - a pretty good name now for "transgender women", if you ask me - were a staple of Saturday night family TV in the 60s and 70s, with people like Dick Emery and Danny la Rue, and the tradition goes back to music hall.

    The Python crew frequently did sketches in drag.

    Sexy they were NOT.

    Couldn't do it now.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9iC5DR8Ch74

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dick_Emery

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danny_La_Rue

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Old_Mother_Riley

    Replies: @John Johnson

    , @New Dealer
    @John Johnson

    Wow, here in Sailerlandia, someone demands, “Don’t believe your lying eyes!”


    Drag isn’t sexual even if it appears to be.
     
    That is simultaneously the most laughably preposterous and most instantly refutable assertion I’ve encountered in my 70 years. I’m sorely tempted to mockery, but will refrain.

    As so often, it took me less than five minutes of web search to find decisive refutations. I’m eager to block quote the lurid evidence, but will be.a good citizen and post them after the MORE button.

    Here, a self-described pedophile explains that yes, kid drag is sexually arousing to the performer and to the audience. https://www.lifesitenews.com/blogs/pedophilia-advocate-admits-conservatives-are-right-yes-kid-drag-shows-are-sexual/

    Here is a gay newsletter with a story about the sex lives of drag queens, and how horny their fans are for them. https://inmagazine.ca/2020/11/queens-of-the-round-table-the-sex-lives-of-drag-queens/

    https://www.lifesitenews.com/blogs/pedophilia-advocate-admits-conservatives-are-right-yes-kid-drag-shows-are-sexual/


    Let’s face it, when a pretty young boy tells the world he is gay and dances sensuously in front of grown men, wearing vampish dresses and makeup; when “she” strips off items of clothing or goes on stage scantily clad right from the off; when dollar bills are accepted as “tips” from an audience apparently wild with excitement; when all this is going on we are getting far more than just a celebration of gender diversity or an innocent display of precocious performance talent….

    It says, loud and proud, “I am a sexy kid, with sexy feelings. It’s totally cool for grown-ups to get turned on by me. I love it. That’s why I do this stuff. It’s great. It’s fun. It’s me!”…

    So why all the denial? Why the coy insistence that kids’ drag performance has nothing to do with their sexuality? Hypocrisy, basically. For decades now, gay politics has revolved around respectability, and that has meant aping hetero-normativity: gay couples with committed relationships, marriage, and parenthood, have become the promoted model; the old, carefree “promiscuity” of the gay life is frowned upon (if still a reality for many) and any cross-generational sexual contact with youth is now far more taboo than it ever was in the “bad old days” when homosexuality was a discretely practised underground phenomenon.

    Hypocrisy is detestable for its dishonesty; but on the other hand it works. Politically, it makes sense. Denial of the sexual element in kids’ drag performances has recently resulted in them being perceived as on the “respectable” side of the gender revolution, despite all the excitable right-wing huffing and puffing.
     

    https://inmagazine.ca/2020/11/queens-of-the-round-table-the-sex-lives-of-drag-queens/

    When potential sexual partners find out you’re a drag queen, what is their general reaction?
    Honey Davenport: …for the most part my experiences have been positive. After my season of RuPaul’s Drag Race began airing, Bob the Drag Queen told me, ‘Don’t be afraid to put your dick in a fan.’ At first I thought that sounded painful, but then I realized it was actually good advice. During the Season 11 tour, I changed my Grindr and Scruff name to ‘I Fuck My Fans.’ I felt like a rock star!…
     

    Do you attract sexual attention in or out of drag?

    Honey Davenport: I certainly hope so! I am the most sex-positive queen you will ever meet. With all the attention I pay to getting myself ready in drag, I hope people stare at my ass while I’m performing. My real desire is that they’ll want to rip my drag off, have a fun romp, and buy me a new outfit in the morning.

    Lucy Flawless: I absolutely attract more sexual energy when I’m in drag. Being in drag is the greatest icebreaker ever. Just about anyone will come up and talk to you. Personally, sex appeal is a large part of my stage persona, I project it on stage and I use it to get money from people and I get a few compliments along the way.

    Salina Estitties: Since my drag persona is a spicy, thick-bottomed Latina, I exude sex and sensuality in drag. I invite that energy in. I like to think part of my gig is allowing people to get in touch with their inner freak, so a lot of people want attention in some sort of way….
     

    Q.E.D.

    Replies: @John Johnson, @The Germ Theory of Disease

  160. @Big Bill
    @The Germ Theory of Disease

    Fred Burnaby, the author of "Asia Minor" as well as "A Ride to Khiva" was a Man's Man. Tissot painted a famous and truly breathtaking portrait of him. He must have stood 6' 4" or so.

    He volunteered for the British expedition to rescue Chinese Gordon and for the Relief of Khartoum.

    Fred died fighting the Mahdi's desert troops, IIRC.

    Fred was killed in the desert in the Battle of Abu Klea, and songs were written about his tragic death.

    Quite a popular figure.

    IIRC, he also sailed over the English Channel in a balloon.

    Google "Tissot Burnaby" and look at images.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @The Germ Theory of Disease

    “Google “Tissot Burnaby” and look at images.”

    Interesting portrait, but the face looks like something out of Balthus, which I’m sure the subject would not have appreciated.

    Also, love the wildly inaccurate medieval-era map on the wall in the background.

  161. @Kylie
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11527307/Ex-Navy-SEAL-transitioned-male-female-says-hes-transitioning-BACK.html?ito=native_share_article-top

    I've gone from genuine tolerance of these creatures to a profound aversion to them. This has less to do with the physical aspects of their transition, ridiculous and unseemly though they are, than it does with disgust at their arrogance. You don't get to become whoever or whatever you want to be merely by deciding that's who or what you are. And you don't get to demand that others kowtow to you by treating your laughable delusions as if they were facts.

    I don't wish any of these self-mutilating freaks well.

    Replies: @AndrewR, @Bill Jones, @anonymous, @AnotherDad, @Prester John, @Anonymous, @Edward Dett

    Agree. A point I’d like to add to this public square is an examination of the verb to identify as. This word shows up in “debates” on and with trans people. It is taken as synonymous with to prove to be, which in terms of traditional dictionary definitions, verbal logic, and empirical evidence, it is not.

    Clearing up this definitional matter would set the stage for arguing down this huge mistake that continues to harm people and children. T-g’nd’rism is predicated on the ideology that reality is whatever the most powerful say it is, a social construct. As I contemplate the mess we live in now in the West, deposing these beliefs will take an effort more at deprogramming brainwashing than just winning arguments and believing that psychological counseling will effect a Hail-Mary breakthrough by evoking shame or some dawn of conscience.

    • Replies: @Kylie
    @Edward Dett

    "T-g’nd’rism is predicated on the ideology that reality is whatever the most powerful say it is, a social construct."

    Agreed. But it's not just transgenderism. Every single hideous far-left idea is predicated on that. They're like the old "Outer Limits" TV show. They control our televisions--abd every other means if communication.

    Women "not having a voice" doesn't now mean that women are actually forbidden to speak publicly. Leftist women seemingly do little else. Oprah became a billionaire simply by using her voice (i.e., running her mouth) publicly and continuously. The Duchess of L.A. is busily engaged in bringing down the BRF by doing the same. Yet any time a leftist woman is not dominating as opposed to merely contributing to public discourse, she's said to be "silenced".

    "Inclusive" no longer means nobody is left out. It now means the left's pets are allowed to dominate a group and anyone objecting to that is racist and/or sexist and/or transphobic, etc.

    So unfortunately the problem of how the left distorts language to its own advantage is by this point ubiquitous and systemic.

  162. @Curle
    @New Dealer

    I suspect the New York library system is an outlier. Payment didn’t make the news in my patch when these weirdos created a stir by reserving a local library room and inviting parents to bring their kids.

    Replies: @RadicalCenter

    We cannot remain this naive and out of touch with the perversion in our kids’ faces EVERYwhere.

    NY library system is NOT an outlier. Happens all the time in Los Angeles, Long Beach and many other places in SoCal:

    LOS ANGELES, 2019
    https://news.yahoo.com/drag-queen-reads-children-promotes-033544925.html

    PORTLAND, OREGON
    https://www.nowtheendbegins.com/drag-queen-story-hour-multnomah-county-library-portland-oregon-children-lay-on-top-men-in-dresses-pedophiles/

    HOUSTON, TEXAS
    https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/second-drag-queen-story-hour-library-reader-exposed-as-convicted-child-sex-offender/

    CHICAGO suburbs, ILLINOIS
    https://www.huffpost.com/entry/downers-grove-library-cancels-protested-drag-teen-bingo_n_632090a3e4b0ed021df69ef3

    Time to stop living in a bubble. America is almost over. The people supporting or excusing filthy underhanded brainwashing and perversion of innocent children are very numerous in “our” country, and not just in supposedly unique deviance hotspots like NYC or LA or SF.

    Defund the government schools and government libraries or lawfully sweep the perverts and ideologues out forcefully and permanently.

  163. @John Johnson
    @New Dealer

    Do normies know that drag performance, which mimics female erotic dance, is intended to sexually arouse the audience? That mutual arousal is the goal?

    That actually isn't the goal.

    Drag isn't sexual even if it appears to be.

    Gay men aren't attracted to fat gay men dressed up as celebrity women and neither are straight men.

    It's really just a form of entertainment. Not my cup of tea but it isn't about sexual arousal.

    Can normies explain why libraries don’t publicize, host, and celebrate biologically female adult strippers?

    Because the homeless wouldn't tip them.

    Replies: @RadicalCenter, @YetAnotherAnon, @New Dealer

    Do you have children?

    Would you allow your children to attend such an event and be with mentally ill (often surgically mutilated and powerfully drugged) men? Have you?

    Because I hesitate to believe that even someone disingenuous and dishonest as you appear to be in your comments, would do that to innocent children whom you’re supposed to be protecting and guiding. I hope not. This should be something we can all agree on.

    • Replies: @John Johnson
    @RadicalCenter

    Do you have children?

    Yes I do. Unlike most of Anglin's Incel Army I have actually bred with a White woman and not a weakling. She puts up with me after all.

    Would you allow your children to attend such an event and be with mentally ill (often surgically mutilated and powerfully drugged) men? Have you?

    Where did I say or imply that I think children should go to such events?

    I said it wasn't sexual. That doesn't mean it is for children. PG-13 movies aren't for children and I am disgusted when I see families with kids going to them.

    It's a myth that drag queens are the same as trannies. They are gay men that dress up for the performance. They put on big fake boobs and tell jokes or sing songs.

    You aren't supposed to be sexually attracted to them. They are usually fat and it is mostly a bar gag just like midget wrestling. Conservatives don't seem to realize this and think a tranny brunch is where men go to lust after some fat black gay dressed up like an obese Whitney Houston. But in all fairness I too once assumed that trannies/drags/transvestites were all the same thing.

    Because I hesitate to believe that even someone disingenuous and dishonest as you appear to be in your comments

    No my problem is that I am too honest for both the circus and its main opposition which is conservatism. I debated both sides in college and grew tired of both as they each maintain their own ideological taboos.

    People like yourself are so used to right/left thinking that you conflate independent thought with the opposition which for you is the establishment.

    I gravitated away from politics and towards real work as I was unable to lie for a living. I'd probably be in the capital if I could retain even partial dishonesty. But I'm unable to pick a side because I think it is just a grand game of lying. I used to hang out with a Republican activist and he would admit all the time that his side has to lie about race. But that's different he would tell me. Oh and we need to be dishonest about that subject too. And also that one...oh and that one.

    I also had a left-wing boomer prof set me aside and tell me that some lies have to be told about race. This was after being lectured for liberal moral insolence aka independent thought.

    So I really hate this system and dishonesty is not my problem. I certainly have character flaws but that is not one of them. The system is built on lies and rewards liars like my Republican friend or the left-wing boomer prof. The honest are expected to stay out of politics and do real work or stay in a niche like Steve. It's all a travesty.

  164. @Arclight
    @mc23

    The reality is that a lot of 'medical professionals' are pretty agnostic about the ethics surrounding transgender diagnoses and surgeries as long as the check clears. There is a reason gender mutilation surgeries have tripled and you even have some of these ghouls on Tik Tok bragging about how many people they disfigured in a week.

    Replies: @John Johnson

    The reality is that a lot of ‘medical professionals’ are pretty agnostic about the ethics surrounding transgender diagnoses and surgeries as long as the check clears.

    That really isn’t true.

    The medical community is overwhelmingly against giving minors hormones or worse sending them to surgery.

    But no one is speaking out because they are afraid of ending up on CNN and losing their career.

    It’s the psych community that is behind it all. They are the ones that need the checks. The colleges have graduated too many psychologists. They tend to be left-wing and they only need to know one amoral doctor or psychiatrist for the prescriptions.

    Your typical family doctor wants nothing to do with the tranny trend. There is plenty of real work for them. It’s the psychologist that needs to pay the rent and has the liberal outlook whereby anything against the White mainstream is perceived as progress.

    Psychologists are hucksters. They didn’t get a practical medical degree and have to hustle to ring the insurance.

    • Replies: @mc23
    @John Johnson

    If you've ever dealt with Psych doctors it's obvious a many of them should be Psych patients.

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon

  165. @JR Ewing
    @Arclight


    Frankly, like a lot of stuff I think lefty adoption of pro-transgender language and politics is just political tribal signaling with the percentage that actually have some knowledge of what it all entails in the low to mid single digits. Once normie Dems are exposed to actual facts, the mind recoils. So that gives me some hope that as more facts seep into the public sphere there will be a political sea change on WWT.
     
    This is why Trump is such a gift to the democrats at this point. There is so much personal distaste for him in the population as a whole - some of it unfairly cultivated, some of it deserved - that "normie dems" can't get past it in order to voice their opposition to the woke nonsense. My wife, a rich white lady who could fairly be described as a "second wave feminist", said as much to me after the election: "I think I would prefer to vote for republicans on a lot of these issues now, but I just can't get past how awful Trump is."

    Frankly, I have reason to believe her. She is increasingly uncomfortable with black and minority preferences, she has concluded that unfettered immigration harms the American working class, and she very much dislikes the homosexualization of society. She is a prime "normie dem" who in the aggregate could put a stop to much of the democrat minoritarian excesses.

    But, fairly or not, the cult of Trump gets in the way and gives license to the democrats by default to keep going.

    Replies: @RadicalCenter, @Curle, @Anonymous

    She can’t vote for people other than Trump because they said good things about Trump or were endorsed by Trump, even though she is realizing that the other side’s ideas are even more destructive to our economy, liberties and society. ? Or she can’t vote for other Republicans because they’re in the same party as Trump? Okayyyyy.

    This level of willful stupidity will continue us down the path to economic and social ruination, disorder, distrust, poverty, and violence.

    The “cult of Trump” means little when he is but a mere mortal, approaching eighty years old, and won’t be around too much longer. What matters is who is likely to implement at least somewhat less destructive policies or do damage control to our government debt, household debt, housing cost crisis, medical cost crisis, decaying infrastructure, dumbed-down schools, increasing intimidation and filth in public spaces, etc, not who is endorsed by Trump or rubs little girl voters the wrong way with his “mean words” or “attitude.”

    Having said all that, my wife and I don’t plan to vote for Trump (or DeSantis) in the 2024 Republican presidential primary, and we don’t expect any decent candidates in the general election with any chance of winning (as always).

  166. @Danindc
    @HammerJack

    Where do you run across these wackos? I have designed my life so I’ve never even met any gay men. It’s fun to laugh at them on Twitter but you should never put yourself in a position to interact with them. You should’ve planned better.

    Replies: @Renard, @John Johnson

    Where do you run across these wackos? I have designed my life so I’ve never even met any gay men. It’s fun to laugh at them on Twitter but you should never put yourself in a position to interact with them. You should’ve planned better.

    It’s called working in the city.

    I was actually more liberal in my opinions of gays until working around them.

    I really imagined them to be more like the gays of sitcoms. Basically like everyone else but with one minor difference. In fact like many I assumed the stereotypes were mostly reinforced by anti-gay types.

    Then through experience I quickly learned why societies of the past learned to not encourage them.

    The men are sexually obsessed and generally uninterested in even short term relationships. They are not merely straight men unhinged. Something else is going on with their genes. They tend to be reckless and are not women in male bodies either.

    For a while I didn’t think the lesbians were a problem until I saw how they would pressure and bully women that could go either way. The butch lesbians are just prison lesbians. They didn’t get hit on in high school and develop an identity of rejecting men. They would sneer at me for simply talking to their wife. What are you afraid of it is all genetic? They know it isn’t that simple. Lesbians are mostly rejected women. The really ugly butch ones are kept from the public eye. It is a different phenomenon compared to gay men and why the two groups don’t get along.

    • Thanks: Danindc
  167. @Curle
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Reading the constitution isn’t that easy, at least not since 1865. We are talking about a document whose internal logic, true structural federalism, was jettisoned by the post Civil War amendments. Try making sense of the New Testament after removing any mention of Jesus and you might get some sense of the task facing the Supremes.

    Replies: @JR Ewing, @Achmed E. Newman, @Reg Cæsar

    Yeah, Curle, almost all of the Amendments after #10 were bad deals for those who understood the point of the original document. There were 5 of them after the War between the States that forced States to widen voting rights.

    Peak Stupidity has this run-down of all the Amendments after the B.O.R. and discussion of each of them one by one in our Morning Constitutional section. A couple of excerpts:

    Let’s look at the gist of these 17 Amendments, #11 through #27, shall we? Only #11, ratified just 3 years after the BoR, #22 to some extent, and #27 on a what’s now a minor issue, put any new limitations on Federal power. Amendments 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 23, 24, and 26 give it more power. (Regarding #24, I put it in this group because any power given to the District of Criminals* is more power to the Federal government itself.) That’s 10 out of 17, 59% of them, that expand Federal power and only 2 – 3, 12-18%, that decrease it.

    Of the Amendments, numbers 15, 19, 23, 24, and 26, that’s 29% of them, expand the franchise to a bigger set of voters.

    Three of the Amendments, numbers 12, 20, and 25 read as simple housekeeping – clean up of loose ends in procedures that were not thought out well when the Constitution was drawn up. However, it is questionable that that’s what Amendment XII was only about. Then, there is Amendment XVII, which might seem like a simple change in procedure to those who haven’t thought much about it, but actually takes away the States’ power.

    Amendment XXI was a good one, but that was only because it was not much more than a repeal of the ridiculous Amendment XVIII decreeing alcohol prohibition by the Federal government. (I wrote “not much more”, because though #21 doesn’t increase Federal power, Section 2 therein encourages more State authoritah.)

    Finally:

    Many fairly young people may be surprised to learn that the last Amendment of the Constitution, Amendment XXVII, was ratified during their own lifetimes, in 1992. I’d forgotten about that myself until I wrote the post about it. It’s also surprising that this latest one was one of the few and far between good ones***, actually resurrected from one of those articles discussed by the Founders way back in the early ’90s, uh, that’d be the 1790s!.

    • Replies: @Curle
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Creating a continental sized Kingdom controlled by an House of Lords, the senate, in thrall to the real lords, capital in general and finance capital in particular, was the end goal of the Civil War. The goal was methodically pursued and the end achieved. But, it had nothing to do with the government conceived by the early republicans and it explains why states in the US aren’t true states but counties of a centralized government.

  168. @JR Ewing
    @Curle

    This is an excellent comment.

    It's very hard to understand an argument or guideline if the underlying premise isn't accepted or presumed.

    This is part and parcel with the fairly widespread argument that the Civil Rights Acts of the 1960's are a "new constitution". Basically, the Civil War Amendments you mention provide the underlying jurisprudence for the 1960's laws which are incompatible with many of the presumptions within the constitution itself as it was written.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

    Right, JR. As per Chris Caldwell’s Age of Entitlement, the Civil Rights laws were a re-writing and superseding of the original. It’s hard to use the original for decisions if you’re going to “respect” the Civil Rights laws. However, we know which are the Law of the Land, so a justice with integrity would use the former. Clarence Thomas is a justice with integrity.

    • Agree: Curle, JR Ewing
  169. @RadicalCenter
    @John Johnson

    Do you have children?

    Would you allow your children to attend such an event and be with mentally ill (often surgically mutilated and powerfully drugged) men? Have you?

    Because I hesitate to believe that even someone disingenuous and dishonest as you appear to be in your comments, would do that to innocent children whom you're supposed to be protecting and guiding. I hope not. This should be something we can all agree on.

    Replies: @John Johnson

    Do you have children?

    Yes I do. Unlike most of Anglin’s Incel Army I have actually bred with a White woman and not a weakling. She puts up with me after all.

    Would you allow your children to attend such an event and be with mentally ill (often surgically mutilated and powerfully drugged) men? Have you?

    Where did I say or imply that I think children should go to such events?

    I said it wasn’t sexual. That doesn’t mean it is for children. PG-13 movies aren’t for children and I am disgusted when I see families with kids going to them.

    It’s a myth that drag queens are the same as trannies. They are gay men that dress up for the performance. They put on big fake boobs and tell jokes or sing songs.

    You aren’t supposed to be sexually attracted to them. They are usually fat and it is mostly a bar gag just like midget wrestling. Conservatives don’t seem to realize this and think a tranny brunch is where men go to lust after some fat black gay dressed up like an obese Whitney Houston. But in all fairness I too once assumed that trannies/drags/transvestites were all the same thing.

    Because I hesitate to believe that even someone disingenuous and dishonest as you appear to be in your comments

    No my problem is that I am too honest for both the circus and its main opposition which is conservatism. I debated both sides in college and grew tired of both as they each maintain their own ideological taboos.

    People like yourself are so used to right/left thinking that you conflate independent thought with the opposition which for you is the establishment.

    I gravitated away from politics and towards real work as I was unable to lie for a living. I’d probably be in the capital if I could retain even partial dishonesty. But I’m unable to pick a side because I think it is just a grand game of lying. I used to hang out with a Republican activist and he would admit all the time that his side has to lie about race. But that’s different he would tell me. Oh and we need to be dishonest about that subject too. And also that one…oh and that one.

    I also had a left-wing boomer prof set me aside and tell me that some lies have to be told about race. This was after being lectured for liberal moral insolence aka independent thought.

    So I really hate this system and dishonesty is not my problem. I certainly have character flaws but that is not one of them. The system is built on lies and rewards liars like my Republican friend or the left-wing boomer prof. The honest are expected to stay out of politics and do real work or stay in a niche like Steve. It’s all a travesty.

  170. @Curle
    @sb

    I’d be interested in a comparison based on distance. Lots of Brits have traveled to sunny Spain just as lots of Washingtonians and Oregonians have traveled to sunny California. London to Ibiza is a shorter distance than Seattle to LA and English speakers have no problems in Ibiza.

    What percent of Americans vs Europeans have traveled more than 2,000 miles distance?

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon

    Young middle class Brits travel a LOT, as air fares are so much cheaper. Germans are great travellers too.

    Fifty years back Stratford and London would be full of American families. Now they’re mostly European or Chinese.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @YetAnotherAnon

    The last time I was in Porto there was an English couple at the same table in the wine tasting at the end of the tour of the Sandeman port wine cellars (Port wine is made in Portugal but the trade has been run by the British for last 300 years) with whom we chatted. They seemed like nice middle class people but by no means wealthy. They mentioned that they had come for the weekend on one of the low fare airlines and their roundtrip ticket had cost 20 UK pounds (for that price you are not allowed to bring any luggage beyond a small backpack). Now London-Porto is less than 1,000 miles but even for US internal flights I don't think you could get a round trip NY- FLA for $25. But naturally you are going to get a lot more people coming to your city if the airfare is $25 vs. $500. Nowadays if it's an internal EU flight you don't even go thru customs - you just get off your plane and walk out of the airport or get on the subway.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @YetAnotherAnon

  171. @Harry Baldwin
    @Jim Don Bob

    The two books saved me a lot of money because they convinced me that I never wanted to go to either place.

    There is a genre of travel writing whose goal seems to be to reassure non-travelers that staying at home is the right decision. I put Bill Bryson in that category. His book A Walk in the Woods persuaded me that I don't want to hike the Appalachian Trail and his book In a Sunburned Country eliminated any interest I had in visiting Australia.

    Replies: @sb, @Old Prude, @Muggles

    A Walk in the Woods was the first book I burned. A book about hiking the App. Trail, where the author quits before he makes it to Katadin. But wait! There’s more! He decides to drive up to Baxter State Park to climb the mountain… and he quits again… WTF? I was so disgusted by this loser making money off his failure I threw the book on the burn pile.

  172. @JR Ewing
    @Arclight


    Frankly, like a lot of stuff I think lefty adoption of pro-transgender language and politics is just political tribal signaling with the percentage that actually have some knowledge of what it all entails in the low to mid single digits. Once normie Dems are exposed to actual facts, the mind recoils. So that gives me some hope that as more facts seep into the public sphere there will be a political sea change on WWT.
     
    This is why Trump is such a gift to the democrats at this point. There is so much personal distaste for him in the population as a whole - some of it unfairly cultivated, some of it deserved - that "normie dems" can't get past it in order to voice their opposition to the woke nonsense. My wife, a rich white lady who could fairly be described as a "second wave feminist", said as much to me after the election: "I think I would prefer to vote for republicans on a lot of these issues now, but I just can't get past how awful Trump is."

    Frankly, I have reason to believe her. She is increasingly uncomfortable with black and minority preferences, she has concluded that unfettered immigration harms the American working class, and she very much dislikes the homosexualization of society. She is a prime "normie dem" who in the aggregate could put a stop to much of the democrat minoritarian excesses.

    But, fairly or not, the cult of Trump gets in the way and gives license to the democrats by default to keep going.

    Replies: @RadicalCenter, @Curle, @Anonymous

    “I think I would prefer to vote for republicans on a lot of these issues now, but I just can’t get past how awful Trump is.”

    Interpretation: social conditioning works. It pays to control the media. Good thing we can trust the media to look out for our interests, eh?

    “fairly or not, the cult of Trump gets in the way and gives license to the democrats by default to keep going.”

    Interpretation: anything that contradicts the authority of the Finance Socialist ruling class = cult and always will. Anyone thinking the next opponent of the Finance Socialist regime (if there ever is one) will improve on Trump’s performance is smoking crack.

  173. @John Johnson
    @New Dealer

    Do normies know that drag performance, which mimics female erotic dance, is intended to sexually arouse the audience? That mutual arousal is the goal?

    That actually isn't the goal.

    Drag isn't sexual even if it appears to be.

    Gay men aren't attracted to fat gay men dressed up as celebrity women and neither are straight men.

    It's really just a form of entertainment. Not my cup of tea but it isn't about sexual arousal.

    Can normies explain why libraries don’t publicize, host, and celebrate biologically female adult strippers?

    Because the homeless wouldn't tip them.

    Replies: @RadicalCenter, @YetAnotherAnon, @New Dealer

    What used to be called “female impersonators” – a pretty good name now for “transgender women”, if you ask me – were a staple of Saturday night family TV in the 60s and 70s, with people like Dick Emery and Danny la Rue, and the tradition goes back to music hall.

    The Python crew frequently did sketches in drag.

    Sexy they were NOT.

    Couldn’t do it now.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dick_Emery

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danny_La_Rue

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Old_Mother_Riley

    • Replies: @John Johnson
    @YetAnotherAnon

    What used to be called “female impersonators” – a pretty good name now for “transgender women”, if you ask me – were a staple of Saturday night family TV in the 60s and 70s, with people like Dick Emery and Danny la Rue, and the tradition goes back to music hall.

    Well there transgendered/transconfused/transwhatever you call them that want to be viewed as women.

    But drag is about entertainment and you are not actually supposed to have any sort of hetero attraction to 250lb fags wearing double Z boobs made out of styrofoam. They are not going to turn anyone gay.

    Some even wear beards and it is not because they forgot to shave.

    It's a weird subculture and most of the people in the audience are straight. The straight men watching the show are not lusting after some fat gay with a beard.

    Why do White people go to drag brunches? I don't know. I don't know why White people go to superhero movies. I know that a lot of White women are fascinated by drag culture and gay men. It makes as much sense to me as paying $15 to watch a CGI man fly around and deliver corny lines.

    But conservatives are wrong to take drag brunches seriously. It's a city thing that is mostly ignored even by liberals. Most liberals in the city watch television and pretend they go to such things.

  174. @Red Pill Angel
    @Reg Cæsar

    No harm done!

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    Remember, a “safe space” for them is a minefield for everyone else. We are in a social and intellectual Cambodia.

    • Agree: Red Pill Angel
  175. @Achmed E. Newman
    @Curle

    Yeah, Curle, almost all of the Amendments after #10 were bad deals for those who understood the point of the original document. There were 5 of them after the War between the States that forced States to widen voting rights.

    Peak Stupidity has this run-down of all the Amendments after the B.O.R. and discussion of each of them one by one in our Morning Constitutional section. A couple of excerpts:


    Let's look at the gist of these 17 Amendments, #11 through #27, shall we? Only #11, ratified just 3 years after the BoR, #22 to some extent, and #27 on a what's now a minor issue, put any new limitations on Federal power. Amendments 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 23, 24, and 26 give it more power. (Regarding #24, I put it in this group because any power given to the District of Criminals* is more power to the Federal government itself.) That's 10 out of 17, 59% of them, that expand Federal power and only 2 - 3, 12-18%, that decrease it.

    Of the Amendments, numbers 15, 19, 23, 24, and 26, that's 29% of them, expand the franchise to a bigger set of voters.
     


    Three of the Amendments, numbers 12, 20, and 25 read as simple housekeeping - clean up of loose ends in procedures that were not thought out well when the Constitution was drawn up. However, it is questionable that that's what Amendment XII was only about. Then, there is Amendment XVII, which might seem like a simple change in procedure to those who haven't thought much about it, but actually takes away the States' power.

    Amendment XXI was a good one, but that was only because it was not much more than a repeal of the ridiculous Amendment XVIII decreeing alcohol prohibition by the Federal government. (I wrote "not much more", because though #21 doesn't increase Federal power, Section 2 therein encourages more State authoritah.)
     

    Finally:

    Many fairly young people may be surprised to learn that the last Amendment of the Constitution, Amendment XXVII, was ratified during their own lifetimes, in 1992. I'd forgotten about that myself until I wrote the post about it. It's also surprising that this latest one was one of the few and far between good ones***, actually resurrected from one of those articles discussed by the Founders way back in the early '90s, uh, that'd be the 1790s!.
     

    Replies: @Curle

    Creating a continental sized Kingdom controlled by an House of Lords, the senate, in thrall to the real lords, capital in general and finance capital in particular, was the end goal of the Civil War. The goal was methodically pursued and the end achieved. But, it had nothing to do with the government conceived by the early republicans and it explains why states in the US aren’t true states but counties of a centralized government.

  176. @YetAnotherAnon
    @Curle

    Young middle class Brits travel a LOT, as air fares are so much cheaper. Germans are great travellers too.

    Fifty years back Stratford and London would be full of American families. Now they're mostly European or Chinese.

    Replies: @Jack D

    The last time I was in Porto there was an English couple at the same table in the wine tasting at the end of the tour of the Sandeman port wine cellars (Port wine is made in Portugal but the trade has been run by the British for last 300 years) with whom we chatted. They seemed like nice middle class people but by no means wealthy. They mentioned that they had come for the weekend on one of the low fare airlines and their roundtrip ticket had cost 20 UK pounds (for that price you are not allowed to bring any luggage beyond a small backpack). Now London-Porto is less than 1,000 miles but even for US internal flights I don’t think you could get a round trip NY- FLA for $25. But naturally you are going to get a lot more people coming to your city if the airfare is $25 vs. $500. Nowadays if it’s an internal EU flight you don’t even go thru customs – you just get off your plane and walk out of the airport or get on the subway.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Jack D


    The last time I was in Porto there was an English couple at the same table in the wine tasting at the end of the tour of the Sandeman port wine cellars...
     
    Overlooked by one of two Gustave Eiffel* bridges over the Douro. Ah, Oporto! Most of the world's cork comes from a short drive away.


    https://live.staticflickr.com/786/27458377878_b046316086_b.jpg


    *To be fair, he was merely "executive producer" on the one in the picture. The other one is around the bend.

    , @YetAnotherAnon
    @Jack D

    Yes, Porto in Jan/Feb is £25 return fare. So is Lisbon.


    https://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/return-flights-to-porto-portugal-from-london-janfeb-departures-ps2598-ps1299-one-way-at-ryanairwizzair-4049564#comments

    A friend went there and reported transgender prostitutes across the street from her hotel. Wouldn't have thought the demand was there.

    Replies: @Jack D

  177. @Curle
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Reading the constitution isn’t that easy, at least not since 1865. We are talking about a document whose internal logic, true structural federalism, was jettisoned by the post Civil War amendments. Try making sense of the New Testament after removing any mention of Jesus and you might get some sense of the task facing the Supremes.

    Replies: @JR Ewing, @Achmed E. Newman, @Reg Cæsar

    We are talking about a document whose internal logic, true structural federalism…

    The document was deeply flawed from the beginning. There was grossly unequal representation of whites, as if some were more equal than others. Cessation of African immigration was delayed by two decades. Invasion of other states was permitted (cf VP Richard Johnson) and encouraged by the feds and states.

    Most debilitatingly, there was– and is– no explicit exit clause. Brexit, in stark contrast, was messy but peaceful; comedy, not tragedy.

    John Lansing and Robert Yates could smell what was coming.

    The First Anti-Federalists – Robert Yates and John Lansing, Jr.

    Robert Yates Storms Out Of The Constitutional Convention

    Expecting to simply revise the Articles of Confederation, Yates was surprised to learn that the Virginia and Pennsylvania delegations were in favor of writing a new Constitution. They wanted to move from a Confederation to a centralized, National Government. Yates was just one of the many representatives who were shocked by this new[s] upon their arrival.

    If Washington goes down with Lee, then Madison goes down with Lincoln.

    (Hamilton refused to vote at the Convention– thanks to Yates and Lansing.)

    • Replies: @Curle
    @Reg Cæsar

    “Most debilitatingly, there was– and is– no explicit exit clause.”

    Why do you imagine one is needed?

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    , @Curle
    @Reg Cæsar

    “then Madison goes down with Lincoln.”

    Madison is on record that a permanent union was not achieved at the convention. Familiarize yourself with Madison’s letters to Jefferson from the convention.

    Further, there is a contemporaneous legal analysis of the new constitution published the year following ratification and included with Blackstone’s Commentaries on the law. Look up St George Tucker. It repeats Madison’s report to Jefferson, the proposal out of the convention was a voluntary union.

    You will not find any contemporaneous record making your claim about the nature of the government produced by the convention.

    , @John Johnson
    @Reg Cæsar

    The document was deeply flawed from the beginning. There was grossly unequal representation of whites, as if some were more equal than others.

    I would say a bigger problem is that they didn't imagine future Whites to be so willingly ignorant over race. I'm sure they imagined future generations to be in closer touch with reality than their radical egalitarians of the time. They probably incorrectly assumed that separation from the church would lead towards greater acceptance of nature when in fact most secular Whites have rejected race and gender entirely.

    A flawed document but still far better than anything the Europeans have come up with.

    I still can't believe that the British put up with their House of Lords.

    Might as well also have a corresponding House of Dirty Proles.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    , @Curle
    @Reg Cæsar

    Madison writes that the foundation of the Union is “federal.” In this respect, he notes, the “assent and ratification” to the Constitution is not to be given by the people as “comprising one entire nation, but as composing the distinct and independent States to which they respectively belong” (39:196). At first blush this would suggest that the Constitution is a compact between sovereign and equal states very much along the lines of the Articles. A closer examination of why Madison labels the foundation “federal,” however, does not support this view. In context he is applying the term “federal” to the mechanics of ratification; that is, it is through state conventions specially elected and convened that the Constitution is to be ratified. This mode of procedure is consonant with the federal principle. But the parties to the Constitution are not the states operating in their political capacities, the arrangement under the Articles. On the contrary, Madison is clear throughout his discussion on the crucial point: “the Constitution is to be founded on the assent and ratification of the people of America,” not the states as political entities. “It is to be,” he affirms, “the assent and ratification of the several States, derived from the supreme authority in each State—the authority of the people themselves” (39:196).35

    Though at times unduly vague, Madison is consistent throughout his career in maintaining that the Constitution is founded on the “assent and ratification” of the people.

    And, as you know or should know, the people of the seceding states assembled into state conventions and in those conventions voted to exercise their ‘supreme authority’ to dissolve their participation in the Union.

  178. @Reg Cæsar
    @Curle


    We are talking about a document whose internal logic, true structural federalism...
     
    The document was deeply flawed from the beginning. There was grossly unequal representation of whites, as if some were more equal than others. Cessation of African immigration was delayed by two decades. Invasion of other states was permitted (cf VP Richard Johnson) and encouraged by the feds and states.

    Most debilitatingly, there was-- and is-- no explicit exit clause. Brexit, in stark contrast, was messy but peaceful; comedy, not tragedy.

    John Lansing and Robert Yates could smell what was coming.


    The First Anti-Federalists - Robert Yates and John Lansing, Jr.

    Robert Yates Storms Out Of The Constitutional Convention


    Expecting to simply revise the Articles of Confederation, Yates was surprised to learn that the Virginia and Pennsylvania delegations were in favor of writing a new Constitution. They wanted to move from a Confederation to a centralized, National Government. Yates was just one of the many representatives who were shocked by this new[s] upon their arrival.
     

    If Washington goes down with Lee, then Madison goes down with Lincoln.

    (Hamilton refused to vote at the Convention-- thanks to Yates and Lansing.)

    Replies: @Curle, @Curle, @John Johnson, @Curle

    “Most debilitatingly, there was– and is– no explicit exit clause.”

    Why do you imagine one is needed?

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Curle


    Why do you imagine one is needed?
     
    To avoid the inevitable ambiguity. It needs to be spelled out in the document itself. Shots at Ft Sumter can easily be interpreted as an "insurrection" to be "suppressed"-- and Madison would have known this. He dropped the ball.

    Madison's thoughts in a letter to Jefferson carry as much weight as Jefferson's thoughts in a letter to the Danbury Baptists. The one that's always quoted.

    As for Lincoln, he was like Putin in Chechnya, fighting to retain what a sane man should have expelled. Though now we now Putin's real aim-- willing cannon fodder for Ukraine.

    Replies: @Curle

  179. @Jack D
    @YetAnotherAnon

    The last time I was in Porto there was an English couple at the same table in the wine tasting at the end of the tour of the Sandeman port wine cellars (Port wine is made in Portugal but the trade has been run by the British for last 300 years) with whom we chatted. They seemed like nice middle class people but by no means wealthy. They mentioned that they had come for the weekend on one of the low fare airlines and their roundtrip ticket had cost 20 UK pounds (for that price you are not allowed to bring any luggage beyond a small backpack). Now London-Porto is less than 1,000 miles but even for US internal flights I don't think you could get a round trip NY- FLA for $25. But naturally you are going to get a lot more people coming to your city if the airfare is $25 vs. $500. Nowadays if it's an internal EU flight you don't even go thru customs - you just get off your plane and walk out of the airport or get on the subway.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @YetAnotherAnon

    The last time I was in Porto there was an English couple at the same table in the wine tasting at the end of the tour of the Sandeman port wine cellars…

    Overlooked by one of two Gustave Eiffel* bridges over the Douro. Ah, Oporto! Most of the world’s cork comes from a short drive away.

    *To be fair, he was merely “executive producer” on the one in the picture. The other one is around the bend.

  180. @Yngvar
    @Zero Philosopher


    Consider, for instance how, in every state of the Union, girls are protected from genital cutting by law..
     
    Not true.

    "Currently, there is anti-FGM legislation in only 40 states, meaning that 10 STATES HAVE YET TO CRIMINALIZE FGM."
    (https://www.theahafoundation.org/female-genital-mutilation-fgm-in-the-us/fgm-legislation-by-state/)

    Replies: @Zero Philosopher

    Yes, “only” 40 states, given that there is a total of 50 states. Literal-minded idiot.

  181. @Reg Cæsar
    @Curle


    We are talking about a document whose internal logic, true structural federalism...
     
    The document was deeply flawed from the beginning. There was grossly unequal representation of whites, as if some were more equal than others. Cessation of African immigration was delayed by two decades. Invasion of other states was permitted (cf VP Richard Johnson) and encouraged by the feds and states.

    Most debilitatingly, there was-- and is-- no explicit exit clause. Brexit, in stark contrast, was messy but peaceful; comedy, not tragedy.

    John Lansing and Robert Yates could smell what was coming.


    The First Anti-Federalists - Robert Yates and John Lansing, Jr.

    Robert Yates Storms Out Of The Constitutional Convention


    Expecting to simply revise the Articles of Confederation, Yates was surprised to learn that the Virginia and Pennsylvania delegations were in favor of writing a new Constitution. They wanted to move from a Confederation to a centralized, National Government. Yates was just one of the many representatives who were shocked by this new[s] upon their arrival.
     

    If Washington goes down with Lee, then Madison goes down with Lincoln.

    (Hamilton refused to vote at the Convention-- thanks to Yates and Lansing.)

    Replies: @Curle, @Curle, @John Johnson, @Curle

    “then Madison goes down with Lincoln.”

    Madison is on record that a permanent union was not achieved at the convention. Familiarize yourself with Madison’s letters to Jefferson from the convention.

    Further, there is a contemporaneous legal analysis of the new constitution published the year following ratification and included with Blackstone’s Commentaries on the law. Look up St George Tucker. It repeats Madison’s report to Jefferson, the proposal out of the convention was a voluntary union.

    You will not find any contemporaneous record making your claim about the nature of the government produced by the convention.

  182. @Reg Cæsar
    @Curle


    We are talking about a document whose internal logic, true structural federalism...
     
    The document was deeply flawed from the beginning. There was grossly unequal representation of whites, as if some were more equal than others. Cessation of African immigration was delayed by two decades. Invasion of other states was permitted (cf VP Richard Johnson) and encouraged by the feds and states.

    Most debilitatingly, there was-- and is-- no explicit exit clause. Brexit, in stark contrast, was messy but peaceful; comedy, not tragedy.

    John Lansing and Robert Yates could smell what was coming.


    The First Anti-Federalists - Robert Yates and John Lansing, Jr.

    Robert Yates Storms Out Of The Constitutional Convention


    Expecting to simply revise the Articles of Confederation, Yates was surprised to learn that the Virginia and Pennsylvania delegations were in favor of writing a new Constitution. They wanted to move from a Confederation to a centralized, National Government. Yates was just one of the many representatives who were shocked by this new[s] upon their arrival.
     

    If Washington goes down with Lee, then Madison goes down with Lincoln.

    (Hamilton refused to vote at the Convention-- thanks to Yates and Lansing.)

    Replies: @Curle, @Curle, @John Johnson, @Curle

    The document was deeply flawed from the beginning. There was grossly unequal representation of whites, as if some were more equal than others.

    I would say a bigger problem is that they didn’t imagine future Whites to be so willingly ignorant over race. I’m sure they imagined future generations to be in closer touch with reality than their radical egalitarians of the time. They probably incorrectly assumed that separation from the church would lead towards greater acceptance of nature when in fact most secular Whites have rejected race and gender entirely.

    A flawed document but still far better than anything the Europeans have come up with.

    I still can’t believe that the British put up with their House of Lords.

    Might as well also have a corresponding House of Dirty Proles.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @John Johnson


    I would say a bigger problem is that they didn’t imagine future Whites [sic] to be so willingly ignorant over race.
     
    "Ignorant over race" = allowing two or more to occupy the same territory.

    I’m sure they imagined future generations to be in closer touch with reality than their radical egalitarians of the time.
     
    There were no "radical egalitarians" at the time, other than the occasional mad Brown or Garrison. The American Colonization Society-- the sane ones of the day-- had a much bigger following. Where Lincoln was right, his Panama plan, he got nowhere. It costs money to ship people property abroad, and no one could agree who was bound to pay for it. Yes, bound-- serious compulsion, toward whites as well as blacks, would have been necessary.

    Replies: @John Johnson, @J.Ross

  183. @Edward Dett
    @Kylie

    Agree. A point I'd like to add to this public square is an examination of the verb to identify as. This word shows up in "debates" on and with trans people. It is taken as synonymous with to prove to be, which in terms of traditional dictionary definitions, verbal logic, and empirical evidence, it is not.

    Clearing up this definitional matter would set the stage for arguing down this huge mistake that continues to harm people and children. T-g'nd'rism is predicated on the ideology that reality is whatever the most powerful say it is, a social construct. As I contemplate the mess we live in now in the West, deposing these beliefs will take an effort more at deprogramming brainwashing than just winning arguments and believing that psychological counseling will effect a Hail-Mary breakthrough by evoking shame or some dawn of conscience.

    Replies: @Kylie

    “T-g’nd’rism is predicated on the ideology that reality is whatever the most powerful say it is, a social construct.”

    Agreed. But it’s not just transgenderism. Every single hideous far-left idea is predicated on that. They’re like the old “Outer Limits” TV show. They control our televisions–abd every other means if communication.

    Women “not having a voice” doesn’t now mean that women are actually forbidden to speak publicly. Leftist women seemingly do little else. Oprah became a billionaire simply by using her voice (i.e., running her mouth) publicly and continuously. The Duchess of L.A. is busily engaged in bringing down the BRF by doing the same. Yet any time a leftist woman is not dominating as opposed to merely contributing to public discourse, she’s said to be “silenced”.

    “Inclusive” no longer means nobody is left out. It now means the left’s pets are allowed to dominate a group and anyone objecting to that is racist and/or sexist and/or transphobic, etc.

    So unfortunately the problem of how the left distorts language to its own advantage is by this point ubiquitous and systemic.

    • Agree: Harry Baldwin
  184. @John Johnson
    @New Dealer

    Do normies know that drag performance, which mimics female erotic dance, is intended to sexually arouse the audience? That mutual arousal is the goal?

    That actually isn't the goal.

    Drag isn't sexual even if it appears to be.

    Gay men aren't attracted to fat gay men dressed up as celebrity women and neither are straight men.

    It's really just a form of entertainment. Not my cup of tea but it isn't about sexual arousal.

    Can normies explain why libraries don’t publicize, host, and celebrate biologically female adult strippers?

    Because the homeless wouldn't tip them.

    Replies: @RadicalCenter, @YetAnotherAnon, @New Dealer

    Wow, here in Sailerlandia, someone demands, “Don’t believe your lying eyes!”

    Drag isn’t sexual even if it appears to be.

    That is simultaneously the most laughably preposterous and most instantly refutable assertion I’ve encountered in my 70 years. I’m sorely tempted to mockery, but will refrain.

    As so often, it took me less than five minutes of web search to find decisive refutations. I’m eager to block quote the lurid evidence, but will be.a good citizen and post them after the MORE button.

    Here, a self-described pedophile explains that yes, kid drag is sexually arousing to the performer and to the audience. https://www.lifesitenews.com/blogs/pedophilia-advocate-admits-conservatives-are-right-yes-kid-drag-shows-are-sexual/

    Here is a gay newsletter with a story about the sex lives of drag queens, and how horny their fans are for them. https://inmagazine.ca/2020/11/queens-of-the-round-table-the-sex-lives-of-drag-queens/

    [MORE]

    https://www.lifesitenews.com/blogs/pedophilia-advocate-admits-conservatives-are-right-yes-kid-drag-shows-are-sexual/

    Let’s face it, when a pretty young boy tells the world he is gay and dances sensuously in front of grown men, wearing vampish dresses and makeup; when “she” strips off items of clothing or goes on stage scantily clad right from the off; when dollar bills are accepted as “tips” from an audience apparently wild with excitement; when all this is going on we are getting far more than just a celebration of gender diversity or an innocent display of precocious performance talent….

    It says, loud and proud, “I am a sexy kid, with sexy feelings. It’s totally cool for grown-ups to get turned on by me. I love it. That’s why I do this stuff. It’s great. It’s fun. It’s me!”…

    So why all the denial? Why the coy insistence that kids’ drag performance has nothing to do with their sexuality? Hypocrisy, basically. For decades now, gay politics has revolved around respectability, and that has meant aping hetero-normativity: gay couples with committed relationships, marriage, and parenthood, have become the promoted model; the old, carefree “promiscuity” of the gay life is frowned upon (if still a reality for many) and any cross-generational sexual contact with youth is now far more taboo than it ever was in the “bad old days” when homosexuality was a discretely practised underground phenomenon.

    Hypocrisy is detestable for its dishonesty; but on the other hand it works. Politically, it makes sense. Denial of the sexual element in kids’ drag performances has recently resulted in them being perceived as on the “respectable” side of the gender revolution, despite all the excitable right-wing huffing and puffing.

    https://inmagazine.ca/2020/11/queens-of-the-round-table-the-sex-lives-of-drag-queens/

    When potential sexual partners find out you’re a drag queen, what is their general reaction?
    Honey Davenport: …for the most part my experiences have been positive. After my season of RuPaul’s Drag Race began airing, Bob the Drag Queen told me, ‘Don’t be afraid to put your dick in a fan.’ At first I thought that sounded painful, but then I realized it was actually good advice. During the Season 11 tour, I changed my Grindr and Scruff name to ‘I Fuck My Fans.’ I felt like a rock star!…

    Do you attract sexual attention in or out of drag?

    Honey Davenport: I certainly hope so! I am the most sex-positive queen you will ever meet. With all the attention I pay to getting myself ready in drag, I hope people stare at my ass while I’m performing. My real desire is that they’ll want to rip my drag off, have a fun romp, and buy me a new outfit in the morning.

    Lucy Flawless: I absolutely attract more sexual energy when I’m in drag. Being in drag is the greatest icebreaker ever. Just about anyone will come up and talk to you. Personally, sex appeal is a large part of my stage persona, I project it on stage and I use it to get money from people and I get a few compliments along the way.

    Salina Estitties: Since my drag persona is a spicy, thick-bottomed Latina, I exude sex and sensuality in drag. I invite that energy in. I like to think part of my gig is allowing people to get in touch with their inner freak, so a lot of people want attention in some sort of way….

    Q.E.D.

    • Agree: Gordo
    • Replies: @John Johnson
    @New Dealer


    Drag isn’t sexual even if it appears to be.
     
    That is simultaneously the most laughably preposterous and most instantly refutable assertion I’ve encountered in my 70 years. I’m sorely tempted to mockery, but will refrain.

    Stories about drag queens having sex misses the point. So does pointing out some oddball that is attracted to them.

    A drag show isn't like a strip show. The audience is not sexually aroused.

    Which group do you think is attracted to them? Are you attracted to fat gay men dressed as celebrity women?

    The boobs aren't real and they actually frown on trannies taking part. It's gay men dressing up as women and dancing/singing. Not my cup of tea but it isn't a strip show or burlesque act.

    Hint: You aren't actually supposed to be attracted to this:

    https://s.hdnux.com/photos/43/51/70/9346616/4/rawImage.jpg

    They aren't trying to trick anyone into thinking they are women. Kind of a duh and conservatives look like idiots for showing up to tranny brunches. Those have been going on a long time and straight men aren't going to them with their girlfriends to oggle fat gay men in terrible costumes.

    Most of you have clearly not lived in the city. Trannies and drag queens are not the same thing. The latter are not trying to live as women. They put on those costumes for the show.

    There is a real problem with putting kids on hormones and talking 21 year olds into off chopping their genitals. But drag queen brunches are just a silly gay thing and should be ignored. It's like freaking out over Rocky Horror Picture Show. Not might cup of tea either but it isn't the problem.

    Replies: @New Dealer, @Curle

    , @The Germ Theory of Disease
    @New Dealer

    Guys, guys --- it's a big world out there. Hell, it's even a big drag world out there (or so I'm told). It's quite probable you're both right, and so are viewpoints Nine, Ten, and Eleven. It's perfectly plausible that a nubile (as it were) 16-year-old drag queen is going to arouse some of the audience, and it's plausible that people watch the overweight 45-year-old just for the entertainment value. From what I've been told, drag is a little like some of the more arcane Japanese art forms, like flower arranging or making a rock garden: there are all sorts of subtleties and nuances and subtexts to a performance that only a connoisseur can recognize.

    Some people go to art-house movie theaters because they actually like art cinema. Some go because they got dragged there by their date. Some go to impress their date by pretending they actually like Fellini and Godard. Life is large. Some people quarrel on the internet because they think they're right, and some just fight because they just like to fight. Don't be those guys.

  185. @Truth
    @Colin Wright


    Or take Kamala Harris. I make her as half Indian, about three-eighths white, and about one-eighth black. Yet she is ‘black.’
     
    In other words, "she makes my woody-worm come to life, and gosh diggy-darnit, I need an excuse!"

    Replies: @Colin Wright

    ‘In other words, “she makes my woody-worm come to life, and gosh diggy-darnit, I need an excuse!”’

    No fear.

  186. @New Dealer
    @John Johnson

    Wow, here in Sailerlandia, someone demands, “Don’t believe your lying eyes!”


    Drag isn’t sexual even if it appears to be.
     
    That is simultaneously the most laughably preposterous and most instantly refutable assertion I’ve encountered in my 70 years. I’m sorely tempted to mockery, but will refrain.

    As so often, it took me less than five minutes of web search to find decisive refutations. I’m eager to block quote the lurid evidence, but will be.a good citizen and post them after the MORE button.

    Here, a self-described pedophile explains that yes, kid drag is sexually arousing to the performer and to the audience. https://www.lifesitenews.com/blogs/pedophilia-advocate-admits-conservatives-are-right-yes-kid-drag-shows-are-sexual/

    Here is a gay newsletter with a story about the sex lives of drag queens, and how horny their fans are for them. https://inmagazine.ca/2020/11/queens-of-the-round-table-the-sex-lives-of-drag-queens/

    https://www.lifesitenews.com/blogs/pedophilia-advocate-admits-conservatives-are-right-yes-kid-drag-shows-are-sexual/


    Let’s face it, when a pretty young boy tells the world he is gay and dances sensuously in front of grown men, wearing vampish dresses and makeup; when “she” strips off items of clothing or goes on stage scantily clad right from the off; when dollar bills are accepted as “tips” from an audience apparently wild with excitement; when all this is going on we are getting far more than just a celebration of gender diversity or an innocent display of precocious performance talent….

    It says, loud and proud, “I am a sexy kid, with sexy feelings. It’s totally cool for grown-ups to get turned on by me. I love it. That’s why I do this stuff. It’s great. It’s fun. It’s me!”…

    So why all the denial? Why the coy insistence that kids’ drag performance has nothing to do with their sexuality? Hypocrisy, basically. For decades now, gay politics has revolved around respectability, and that has meant aping hetero-normativity: gay couples with committed relationships, marriage, and parenthood, have become the promoted model; the old, carefree “promiscuity” of the gay life is frowned upon (if still a reality for many) and any cross-generational sexual contact with youth is now far more taboo than it ever was in the “bad old days” when homosexuality was a discretely practised underground phenomenon.

    Hypocrisy is detestable for its dishonesty; but on the other hand it works. Politically, it makes sense. Denial of the sexual element in kids’ drag performances has recently resulted in them being perceived as on the “respectable” side of the gender revolution, despite all the excitable right-wing huffing and puffing.
     

    https://inmagazine.ca/2020/11/queens-of-the-round-table-the-sex-lives-of-drag-queens/

    When potential sexual partners find out you’re a drag queen, what is their general reaction?
    Honey Davenport: …for the most part my experiences have been positive. After my season of RuPaul’s Drag Race began airing, Bob the Drag Queen told me, ‘Don’t be afraid to put your dick in a fan.’ At first I thought that sounded painful, but then I realized it was actually good advice. During the Season 11 tour, I changed my Grindr and Scruff name to ‘I Fuck My Fans.’ I felt like a rock star!…
     

    Do you attract sexual attention in or out of drag?

    Honey Davenport: I certainly hope so! I am the most sex-positive queen you will ever meet. With all the attention I pay to getting myself ready in drag, I hope people stare at my ass while I’m performing. My real desire is that they’ll want to rip my drag off, have a fun romp, and buy me a new outfit in the morning.

    Lucy Flawless: I absolutely attract more sexual energy when I’m in drag. Being in drag is the greatest icebreaker ever. Just about anyone will come up and talk to you. Personally, sex appeal is a large part of my stage persona, I project it on stage and I use it to get money from people and I get a few compliments along the way.

    Salina Estitties: Since my drag persona is a spicy, thick-bottomed Latina, I exude sex and sensuality in drag. I invite that energy in. I like to think part of my gig is allowing people to get in touch with their inner freak, so a lot of people want attention in some sort of way….
     

    Q.E.D.

    Replies: @John Johnson, @The Germ Theory of Disease

    Drag isn’t sexual even if it appears to be.

    That is simultaneously the most laughably preposterous and most instantly refutable assertion I’ve encountered in my 70 years. I’m sorely tempted to mockery, but will refrain.

    Stories about drag queens having sex misses the point. So does pointing out some oddball that is attracted to them.

    A drag show isn’t like a strip show. The audience is not sexually aroused.

    Which group do you think is attracted to them? Are you attracted to fat gay men dressed as celebrity women?

    The boobs aren’t real and they actually frown on trannies taking part. It’s gay men dressing up as women and dancing/singing. Not my cup of tea but it isn’t a strip show or burlesque act.

    Hint: You aren’t actually supposed to be attracted to this:

    They aren’t trying to trick anyone into thinking they are women. Kind of a duh and conservatives look like idiots for showing up to tranny brunches. Those have been going on a long time and straight men aren’t going to them with their girlfriends to oggle fat gay men in terrible costumes.

    Most of you have clearly not lived in the city. Trannies and drag queens are not the same thing. The latter are not trying to live as women. They put on those costumes for the show.

    There is a real problem with putting kids on hormones and talking 21 year olds into off chopping their genitals. But drag queen brunches are just a silly gay thing and should be ignored. It’s like freaking out over Rocky Horror Picture Show. Not might cup of tea either but it isn’t the problem.

    • Agree: Jim Don Bob
    • Replies: @New Dealer
    @John Johnson

    Don't believe your lying eyes.

    And don't believe the reports of participants.

    John Johnson's sexual aversion to the performers is the only permissible evidence.

    Got it.

    Replies: @John Johnson

    , @Curle
    @John Johnson

    An old retired city cop I knew in the ‘80s who was on the force in the ‘50s told me that the audience for drag shows back then was middle aged couples. Jack Benny played up that angle from time to time, and Liberace played to the same audience.

    Replies: @John Johnson

  187. @AndrewR
    @Colin Wright

    The one-drop rule is 100% essentialism - a very stupid, illogical form, but essentialism nonetheless. Obama and Kamala and Rice have benefitted from this rule whereas in previous centuries they would have been disadvantaged by it or tried to hide it. But the definition of who is "black" seems identical to that of 200 years ago.

    Replies: @Colin Wright

    ‘The one-drop rule is 100% essentialism – a very stupid, illogical form, but essentialism nonetheless. Obama and Kamala and Rice have benefitted from this rule whereas in previous centuries they would have been disadvantaged by it or tried to hide it. But the definition of who is “black” seems identical to that of 200 years ago.’

    I have to admit that where the metal meets the meat, I subscribe to the one-drop rule myself, but at the same time, what benefits a Megan Markle or a Barack Obama doesn’t really do much for your average 100% black, decidedly Simian ghetto black black. It’s a bit like handing out free copies of Einstein on physics to first-graders — not really going to do any good.

    It’s one of the most irritating things about all this. Aside from all the ethical problems and practical drawbacks, it does nil to nothing for 99% of the population supposed to be the beneficiaries. Aside from everything else, the sheer stupidity and dishonesty of it all gets to me. Cory Booker et al did not need a hand up.

  188. @Reg Cæsar
    @Curle


    We are talking about a document whose internal logic, true structural federalism...
     
    The document was deeply flawed from the beginning. There was grossly unequal representation of whites, as if some were more equal than others. Cessation of African immigration was delayed by two decades. Invasion of other states was permitted (cf VP Richard Johnson) and encouraged by the feds and states.

    Most debilitatingly, there was-- and is-- no explicit exit clause. Brexit, in stark contrast, was messy but peaceful; comedy, not tragedy.

    John Lansing and Robert Yates could smell what was coming.


    The First Anti-Federalists - Robert Yates and John Lansing, Jr.

    Robert Yates Storms Out Of The Constitutional Convention


    Expecting to simply revise the Articles of Confederation, Yates was surprised to learn that the Virginia and Pennsylvania delegations were in favor of writing a new Constitution. They wanted to move from a Confederation to a centralized, National Government. Yates was just one of the many representatives who were shocked by this new[s] upon their arrival.
     

    If Washington goes down with Lee, then Madison goes down with Lincoln.

    (Hamilton refused to vote at the Convention-- thanks to Yates and Lansing.)

    Replies: @Curle, @Curle, @John Johnson, @Curle

    Madison writes that the foundation of the Union is “federal.” In this respect, he notes, the “assent and ratification” to the Constitution is not to be given by the people as “comprising one entire nation, but as composing the distinct and independent States to which they respectively belong” (39:196). At first blush this would suggest that the Constitution is a compact between sovereign and equal states very much along the lines of the Articles. A closer examination of why Madison labels the foundation “federal,” however, does not support this view. In context he is applying the term “federal” to the mechanics of ratification; that is, it is through state conventions specially elected and convened that the Constitution is to be ratified. This mode of procedure is consonant with the federal principle. But the parties to the Constitution are not the states operating in their political capacities, the arrangement under the Articles. On the contrary, Madison is clear throughout his discussion on the crucial point: “the Constitution is to be founded on the assent and ratification of the people of America,” not the states as political entities. “It is to be,” he affirms, “the assent and ratification of the several States, derived from the supreme authority in each State—the authority of the people themselves” (39:196).35

    Though at times unduly vague, Madison is consistent throughout his career in maintaining that the Constitution is founded on the “assent and ratification” of the people.

    And, as you know or should know, the people of the seceding states assembled into state conventions and in those conventions voted to exercise their ‘supreme authority’ to dissolve their participation in the Union.

  189. @Curle
    @Reg Cæsar

    “Most debilitatingly, there was– and is– no explicit exit clause.”

    Why do you imagine one is needed?

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    Why do you imagine one is needed?

    To avoid the inevitable ambiguity. It needs to be spelled out in the document itself. Shots at Ft Sumter can easily be interpreted as an “insurrection” to be “suppressed”– and Madison would have known this. He dropped the ball.

    Madison’s thoughts in a letter to Jefferson carry as much weight as Jefferson’s thoughts in a letter to the Danbury Baptists. The one that’s always quoted.

    As for Lincoln, he was like Putin in Chechnya, fighting to retain what a sane man should have expelled. Though now we now Putin’s real aim– willing cannon fodder for Ukraine.

    • Replies: @Curle
    @Reg Cæsar

    “To avoid the inevitable ambiguity. It needs to be spelled out in the document itself.”

    Or what, you win by default? That’s not how law works. By the way, the tenth amendment takes care of that problem and was understood to take care of that problem by contemporary legal scholars like St George Tucker who was a professor of law at William and Mary.

    “The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.”

    10th Amend to the US Constitution.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

  190. @J.Ross
    OT -- Brinton out. Our nation's nuclear waste no longer benefits from his non-binary expertise. If only there had been some manner of warning sign that he was a %@#$ing freak.
    https://www.dailysignal.com/2022/12/12/breaking-department-of-energy-says-sam-brinton-is-no-longer-a-doe-employee/

    Replies: @Veteran Aryan

    If only there had been some manner of warning sign that he was a %@#$ing freak.

    That’s been my catchphrase for the last few weeks on many different topics. “If only there had been some kind of red flag…”

  191. @John Johnson
    @Reg Cæsar

    The document was deeply flawed from the beginning. There was grossly unequal representation of whites, as if some were more equal than others.

    I would say a bigger problem is that they didn't imagine future Whites to be so willingly ignorant over race. I'm sure they imagined future generations to be in closer touch with reality than their radical egalitarians of the time. They probably incorrectly assumed that separation from the church would lead towards greater acceptance of nature when in fact most secular Whites have rejected race and gender entirely.

    A flawed document but still far better than anything the Europeans have come up with.

    I still can't believe that the British put up with their House of Lords.

    Might as well also have a corresponding House of Dirty Proles.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    I would say a bigger problem is that they didn’t imagine future Whites [sic] to be so willingly ignorant over race.

    “Ignorant over race” = allowing two or more to occupy the same territory.

    I’m sure they imagined future generations to be in closer touch with reality than their radical egalitarians of the time.

    There were no “radical egalitarians” at the time, other than the occasional mad Brown or Garrison. The American Colonization Society– the sane ones of the day– had a much bigger following. Where Lincoln was right, his Panama plan, he got nowhere. It costs money to ship people property abroad, and no one could agree who was bound to pay for it. Yes, bound— serious compulsion, toward whites as well as blacks, would have been necessary.

    • Replies: @John Johnson
    @Reg Cæsar


    I would say a bigger problem is that they didn’t imagine future Whites [sic] to be so willingly ignorant over race.
     
    “Ignorant over race” = allowing two or more to occupy the same territory.

    I don't even care about that.

    I'd be happy if Whites could actually read about racial differences without going ballistic. I just read an article a few months ago about how certain medical differences need to be suppressed and how that could be done in the med schools.

    There were no “radical egalitarians” at the time, other than the occasional mad Brown or Garrison.

    There were radical egalitarians that pre-date the constitution.

    The French revolutionaries were gene deniers and radical egalitarians. Not for race but ability and ancestry which paved the ground for racial egalitarians.

    In fact they executed people that believed otherwise in the name secularism. The same group raped nuns in the name of secular progress. The Spanish anarchists did the same.

    , @J.Ross
    @Reg Cæsar

    >we need to destroy the country and field unprecedentedly large and modern armies, but how will we pay for it?
    >I'll shove the Constitution and founder precedent aside, and institute a new financial tyranny, and it will get paid for!
    >hey, these guys don't really belong here, who will pay for sending them back, which after all we owe them?
    >[wistful whistling intensifies]

  192. @Jack D
    @YetAnotherAnon

    The last time I was in Porto there was an English couple at the same table in the wine tasting at the end of the tour of the Sandeman port wine cellars (Port wine is made in Portugal but the trade has been run by the British for last 300 years) with whom we chatted. They seemed like nice middle class people but by no means wealthy. They mentioned that they had come for the weekend on one of the low fare airlines and their roundtrip ticket had cost 20 UK pounds (for that price you are not allowed to bring any luggage beyond a small backpack). Now London-Porto is less than 1,000 miles but even for US internal flights I don't think you could get a round trip NY- FLA for $25. But naturally you are going to get a lot more people coming to your city if the airfare is $25 vs. $500. Nowadays if it's an internal EU flight you don't even go thru customs - you just get off your plane and walk out of the airport or get on the subway.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @YetAnotherAnon

    Yes, Porto in Jan/Feb is £25 return fare. So is Lisbon.

    https://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/return-flights-to-porto-portugal-from-london-janfeb-departures-ps2598-ps1299-one-way-at-ryanairwizzair-4049564#comments

    A friend went there and reported transgender prostitutes across the street from her hotel. Wouldn’t have thought the demand was there.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @YetAnotherAnon


    A friend went there and reported transgender prostitutes across the street from her hotel.
     
    Maybe if you fly on a £25 round trip ticket you stay in a £25/night hotel. I didn't see one streetwalker, transgender or otherwise in either Lisbon or Porto, but maybe I didn't stay in the "right" neighborhood. Generally speaking both cities looked pretty family friendly to me and not to be mistaken for Sodom and Gomorrah. In fact because Portugal was, until recently, poor and an exporter rather than an importer of humans, Lisbon looked a lot less "vibrant" than most W. European cities nowadays. Immigration is just getting going for them. We were however warned to watch for pickpockets on the trolley to Belem.
  193. @shale boi
    I'm intrigued by her comments on Jan's veracity in writing. We've all experienced examples of how great reporters tend to end the truth to a narrative. It's reaching it's pinnacle with Shattered Glass but I really see that as more of a trend than an outlier. E.g. look at Sally Jenkins who had zero concern about getting the whole Lance Armstrong story wrong. The narrative (cancer fighter) was so important to her that she ignored evidence and after even Lance admitted it, she said who cares. All of these make me worried that Jan/she/he/it wrote nice prose/narrative, but didn't really probe for truth and new insights and the careful conveying of them. So, I'd be a little worried about those books y'all love.

    Replies: @kaganovitch

    I’m intrigued by her comments on Jan’s veracity in writing. We’ve all experienced examples of how great reporters tend to end the truth to a narrative.

    Dude, Christmas is not the same without ‘J’ and “B’.

  194. @Reg Cæsar
    @John Johnson


    I would say a bigger problem is that they didn’t imagine future Whites [sic] to be so willingly ignorant over race.
     
    "Ignorant over race" = allowing two or more to occupy the same territory.

    I’m sure they imagined future generations to be in closer touch with reality than their radical egalitarians of the time.
     
    There were no "radical egalitarians" at the time, other than the occasional mad Brown or Garrison. The American Colonization Society-- the sane ones of the day-- had a much bigger following. Where Lincoln was right, his Panama plan, he got nowhere. It costs money to ship people property abroad, and no one could agree who was bound to pay for it. Yes, bound-- serious compulsion, toward whites as well as blacks, would have been necessary.

    Replies: @John Johnson, @J.Ross

    I would say a bigger problem is that they didn’t imagine future Whites [sic] to be so willingly ignorant over race.

    “Ignorant over race” = allowing two or more to occupy the same territory.

    I don’t even care about that.

    I’d be happy if Whites could actually read about racial differences without going ballistic. I just read an article a few months ago about how certain medical differences need to be suppressed and how that could be done in the med schools.

    There were no “radical egalitarians” at the time, other than the occasional mad Brown or Garrison.

    There were radical egalitarians that pre-date the constitution.

    The French revolutionaries were gene deniers and radical egalitarians. Not for race but ability and ancestry which paved the ground for racial egalitarians.

    In fact they executed people that believed otherwise in the name secularism. The same group raped nuns in the name of secular progress. The Spanish anarchists did the same.

  195. @John Johnson
    @New Dealer


    Drag isn’t sexual even if it appears to be.
     
    That is simultaneously the most laughably preposterous and most instantly refutable assertion I’ve encountered in my 70 years. I’m sorely tempted to mockery, but will refrain.

    Stories about drag queens having sex misses the point. So does pointing out some oddball that is attracted to them.

    A drag show isn't like a strip show. The audience is not sexually aroused.

    Which group do you think is attracted to them? Are you attracted to fat gay men dressed as celebrity women?

    The boobs aren't real and they actually frown on trannies taking part. It's gay men dressing up as women and dancing/singing. Not my cup of tea but it isn't a strip show or burlesque act.

    Hint: You aren't actually supposed to be attracted to this:

    https://s.hdnux.com/photos/43/51/70/9346616/4/rawImage.jpg

    They aren't trying to trick anyone into thinking they are women. Kind of a duh and conservatives look like idiots for showing up to tranny brunches. Those have been going on a long time and straight men aren't going to them with their girlfriends to oggle fat gay men in terrible costumes.

    Most of you have clearly not lived in the city. Trannies and drag queens are not the same thing. The latter are not trying to live as women. They put on those costumes for the show.

    There is a real problem with putting kids on hormones and talking 21 year olds into off chopping their genitals. But drag queen brunches are just a silly gay thing and should be ignored. It's like freaking out over Rocky Horror Picture Show. Not might cup of tea either but it isn't the problem.

    Replies: @New Dealer, @Curle

    Don’t believe your lying eyes.

    And don’t believe the reports of participants.

    John Johnson’s sexual aversion to the performers is the only permissible evidence.

    Got it.

    • Replies: @John Johnson
    @New Dealer

    And don’t believe the reports of participants.

    John Johnson’s sexual aversion to the performers is the only permissible evidence.

    Look at this rock in roll show. They are openly satanist and have naked women in the show.

    See it is all sexual and satanic! Told you so derp!

    Protesting a drag brunch is an example of doofus level conservatism. So is assuming it is anything like a strip show.

    It shows how conservatives are unable to recognize what is actually a threat to society and how to develop a counter-strategy. But these are the same dopes that still think they can solve the education gap by putting Black kids in cardigans and sending them to libertarian charter schools.

    Giving 13 year olds hormones should be a felony. That should be the focus and not a drag queen show where no one is actually getting aroused by some fat fag dressed as Marilyn Monroe.

    Conservatives will tell us in 10 years to forget about teeny tranny pills but hey they got us a 2.5% capital tax cut with their new majority. God bless you Ayn Rand and Ronald Reagan. True American Heroes.

  196. @Harry Baldwin
    @Jim Don Bob

    The two books saved me a lot of money because they convinced me that I never wanted to go to either place.

    There is a genre of travel writing whose goal seems to be to reassure non-travelers that staying at home is the right decision. I put Bill Bryson in that category. His book A Walk in the Woods persuaded me that I don't want to hike the Appalachian Trail and his book In a Sunburned Country eliminated any interest I had in visiting Australia.

    Replies: @sb, @Old Prude, @Muggles

    his book In a Sunburned Country eliminated any interest I had in visiting Australia.

    That and The Fatal Shore are the only two books about Australia I have ever read. Both pretty good for their time.

    As far as I know, they are the only two books on Australia ever written, by anyone.

    Neither was written by an Australian. Sunburned was written by American humorist Bryson and Fatal Shore by Brit historian Robert Hughes.

    The cultural/intellectual pool there appears to be pretty shallow.

    • Replies: @Ed Case
    @Muggles

    Robert Hughes was an Australian, spent his working life in America.

    , @sb
    @Muggles

    Robert Hughes is Australian.
    Bill Bryson is a US born Briton
    Don't get out much do you?

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @Muggles

    , @Art Deco
    @Muggles

    As far as I know, they are the only two books on Australia ever written, by anyone.

    You need to visit an academic library.

    Keith Windschuttle writes works on Australian history for the general reader.

  197. @YetAnotherAnon
    @John Johnson

    What used to be called "female impersonators" - a pretty good name now for "transgender women", if you ask me - were a staple of Saturday night family TV in the 60s and 70s, with people like Dick Emery and Danny la Rue, and the tradition goes back to music hall.

    The Python crew frequently did sketches in drag.

    Sexy they were NOT.

    Couldn't do it now.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9iC5DR8Ch74

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dick_Emery

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danny_La_Rue

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Old_Mother_Riley

    Replies: @John Johnson

    What used to be called “female impersonators” – a pretty good name now for “transgender women”, if you ask me – were a staple of Saturday night family TV in the 60s and 70s, with people like Dick Emery and Danny la Rue, and the tradition goes back to music hall.

    Well there transgendered/transconfused/transwhatever you call them that want to be viewed as women.

    But drag is about entertainment and you are not actually supposed to have any sort of hetero attraction to 250lb fags wearing double Z boobs made out of styrofoam. They are not going to turn anyone gay.

    Some even wear beards and it is not because they forgot to shave.

    It’s a weird subculture and most of the people in the audience are straight. The straight men watching the show are not lusting after some fat gay with a beard.

    Why do White people go to drag brunches? I don’t know. I don’t know why White people go to superhero movies. I know that a lot of White women are fascinated by drag culture and gay men. It makes as much sense to me as paying $15 to watch a CGI man fly around and deliver corny lines.

    But conservatives are wrong to take drag brunches seriously. It’s a city thing that is mostly ignored even by liberals. Most liberals in the city watch television and pretend they go to such things.

  198. @New Dealer
    @John Johnson

    Don't believe your lying eyes.

    And don't believe the reports of participants.

    John Johnson's sexual aversion to the performers is the only permissible evidence.

    Got it.

    Replies: @John Johnson

    And don’t believe the reports of participants.

    John Johnson’s sexual aversion to the performers is the only permissible evidence.

    Look at this rock in roll show. They are openly satanist and have naked women in the show.

    See it is all sexual and satanic! Told you so derp!

    Protesting a drag brunch is an example of doofus level conservatism. So is assuming it is anything like a strip show.

    It shows how conservatives are unable to recognize what is actually a threat to society and how to develop a counter-strategy. But these are the same dopes that still think they can solve the education gap by putting Black kids in cardigans and sending them to libertarian charter schools.

    Giving 13 year olds hormones should be a felony. That should be the focus and not a drag queen show where no one is actually getting aroused by some fat fag dressed as Marilyn Monroe.

    Conservatives will tell us in 10 years to forget about teeny tranny pills but hey they got us a 2.5% capital tax cut with their new majority. God bless you Ayn Rand and Ronald Reagan. True American Heroes.

  199. @Reg Cæsar
    @Curle


    Why do you imagine one is needed?
     
    To avoid the inevitable ambiguity. It needs to be spelled out in the document itself. Shots at Ft Sumter can easily be interpreted as an "insurrection" to be "suppressed"-- and Madison would have known this. He dropped the ball.

    Madison's thoughts in a letter to Jefferson carry as much weight as Jefferson's thoughts in a letter to the Danbury Baptists. The one that's always quoted.

    As for Lincoln, he was like Putin in Chechnya, fighting to retain what a sane man should have expelled. Though now we now Putin's real aim-- willing cannon fodder for Ukraine.

    Replies: @Curle

    “To avoid the inevitable ambiguity. It needs to be spelled out in the document itself.”

    Or what, you win by default? That’s not how law works. By the way, the tenth amendment takes care of that problem and was understood to take care of that problem by contemporary legal scholars like St George Tucker who was a professor of law at William and Mary.

    “The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.”

    10th Amend to the US Constitution.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Curle


    Or what, you win by default? That’s not how law works.
     
    That's how lawyers work.

    Replies: @Curle

  200. @John Johnson
    @Arclight

    The reality is that a lot of ‘medical professionals’ are pretty agnostic about the ethics surrounding transgender diagnoses and surgeries as long as the check clears.

    That really isn't true.

    The medical community is overwhelmingly against giving minors hormones or worse sending them to surgery.

    But no one is speaking out because they are afraid of ending up on CNN and losing their career.

    It's the psych community that is behind it all. They are the ones that need the checks. The colleges have graduated too many psychologists. They tend to be left-wing and they only need to know one amoral doctor or psychiatrist for the prescriptions.

    Your typical family doctor wants nothing to do with the tranny trend. There is plenty of real work for them. It's the psychologist that needs to pay the rent and has the liberal outlook whereby anything against the White mainstream is perceived as progress.

    Psychologists are hucksters. They didn't get a practical medical degree and have to hustle to ring the insurance.

    Replies: @mc23

    If you’ve ever dealt with Psych doctors it’s obvious a many of them should be Psych patients.

    • Replies: @YetAnotherAnon
    @mc23

    The entire "mental health profession" treads a very thin line between practitioner and client. It tends to attract people who are a bit that way themselves.

  201. @Anonymous
    @Big Bill

    It's a great picture, but you can see right away why photography eclipsed painting in the late 19th century. For a tiny fraction of the cost and time, you could have produced an almost as good (black and white) image of the same scene.

    Ironically, computers are now doing the same to professional photographers. CGI is devastating the profession. Photography forums are full of wailing about this. But that's progress.

    Replies: @J.Ross

    Flowering from the meeting place of AI and (widespread, apolitical, objective) disappointment in what passes for movies nowadays is a new 4chan hobby of conjuring up scenes from movies that never were, but which look like they should have been. You can create entirely novel titles (Chrome Lords, Tree of Chaos, The Last Heist, Akira Kurosawa’s Batman starring Toshiro Mifune, Ivan Reitman’s remake of His Girl Friday starring Sigourney Weaver and William Petersen, William Friedkin’s biopic of Saburo Sakai starring Takeshi Kitano, Clive Barker’s film of the pre-Christian practices of the kings of Benin), flesh out actual Hollywood projects which fell through (Paul Verhoeven’s Jerusalem starring Arnold Schwartzeneggar), or recast existing movies with their “original” personnel (The Matrix starring Will Smith, Die Hard starring Frank Sinatra).

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    @J.Ross

    Follow-up to this: check out this anon's reaction to these images, not because they are generated by AI, but because they are not poorly constructed anti-white propaganda:
    How does Midjourney have such a based indisputable style across unrelated prompts? Kns201 has the reins rn I guess? But these images are making anons emotional. If you're 25-45 you're aware of having 20 years of our culture pillaged, mocked and burnt alive by crypto bolsheviks counting down til their gulag gamboree. We have lost so much that many are forgetting what we had. Which is soul destroying. And no new film artist outside maybe QT has gotten visions through intact. And now comes this AI and with 10 different images, it's like dead spots on my brain are flickering but need a jump start. We've had our imaginations dimmed by these Hollywood chimp cum sippers. But this AI not only uses a precise sorcery of 1980s metal fantasy, shadows, fashion, and most of all, and trickiest, the lighting, it filters out the le 80s shit too.
    This shit makes me as sad as it does appreciative and angry. Because this is what Americans would be making today if we hadn't been hoodwinked and mind raped by the L.A. z10 starmakers. This AI or image masher is housed in a white sensibility so that its projections of foreign cultures and PoCs are strong, fair yet eccentric, free of all the Communist poison, or immune to it, to be unaware and unconcerned.
    Goddam it feels like a mental vacation from sore eyes to look at potential kinos knowing they won't hate you and subliminally or loudly tell you to kys. These images nfl have potential for heavy viewer rehabilitation. It does have a predilection as others stated for an "evil halo" aesthetic that seems satanic lite, but such are these degraded times we subsist in. Imagine an American society ever tolerating She-Hulk and RoP, hopefully the end for all that is near. We don't even need audio. I hope George Lucas sees these. He will weep. As will Bob Iger and JJ. For completely polar opposite reasons.

  202. @Reg Cæsar
    @John Johnson


    I would say a bigger problem is that they didn’t imagine future Whites [sic] to be so willingly ignorant over race.
     
    "Ignorant over race" = allowing two or more to occupy the same territory.

    I’m sure they imagined future generations to be in closer touch with reality than their radical egalitarians of the time.
     
    There were no "radical egalitarians" at the time, other than the occasional mad Brown or Garrison. The American Colonization Society-- the sane ones of the day-- had a much bigger following. Where Lincoln was right, his Panama plan, he got nowhere. It costs money to ship people property abroad, and no one could agree who was bound to pay for it. Yes, bound-- serious compulsion, toward whites as well as blacks, would have been necessary.

    Replies: @John Johnson, @J.Ross

    >we need to destroy the country and field unprecedentedly large and modern armies, but how will we pay for it?
    >I’ll shove the Constitution and founder precedent aside, and institute a new financial tyranny, and it will get paid for!
    >hey, these guys don’t really belong here, who will pay for sending them back, which after all we owe them?
    >[wistful whistling intensifies]

  203. @PiltdownMan
    @Gordo

    I bought a copy and it was worth it. A couple of other comments above agree that it is worth reading.

    I've pretty much stopped buying books of late. My public library system is pretty good, and I'm able to find almost anything I want to read in it, even if, sometimes, I have to reserve it and wait for a while.

    Replies: @Kylie, @anonymous

    “I’ve pretty much stopped buying books of late. My public library system is pretty good, and I’m able to find almost anything I want to read in it….”

    Do you read books online? A lot of good books are available for free online. Google books, Project Gutenberg, Faded Page, the Internet Archive, etc. If I’m interested in a book, I Google the title and pdf.

    You probably know all this but it bears repeating.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @Kylie

    Until recently you could get a lot of books from Z-Library but the Feds took it down. It's still available on the tor network.

    There is also Library Genesis which has many of the same books as Z-Library but a less user friendly front end.

    Finally there is Mobilism.

    All of the above sites probably violate the copyright laws of whatever country you are in (they have current ebooks and not just out of copyright classics) but they do have a lot of books.

    Also if you borrow ebooks from your local public library it's possible to strip out the DRM time limit.

    Personally I would never do anything illegal but I have heard that other people do such things.

    It's best not to be too explicit about these things so that they don't become so popular that idiots start to do it. Z-Library was around for years and used by college students in 3rd world countries who couldn't afford $200 for a textbook, but then idiots on Tik-Tok started promoting it for the masses and that was the last straw.

    Do be careful because if you search for "Name of Bestseller" and "PDF" you are going to get taken to a lot of sites where you will download viruses and not the bestseller that you want.

  204. @YetAnotherAnon
    @Jack D

    Yes, Porto in Jan/Feb is £25 return fare. So is Lisbon.


    https://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/return-flights-to-porto-portugal-from-london-janfeb-departures-ps2598-ps1299-one-way-at-ryanairwizzair-4049564#comments

    A friend went there and reported transgender prostitutes across the street from her hotel. Wouldn't have thought the demand was there.

    Replies: @Jack D

    A friend went there and reported transgender prostitutes across the street from her hotel.

    Maybe if you fly on a £25 round trip ticket you stay in a £25/night hotel. I didn’t see one streetwalker, transgender or otherwise in either Lisbon or Porto, but maybe I didn’t stay in the “right” neighborhood. Generally speaking both cities looked pretty family friendly to me and not to be mistaken for Sodom and Gomorrah. In fact because Portugal was, until recently, poor and an exporter rather than an importer of humans, Lisbon looked a lot less “vibrant” than most W. European cities nowadays. Immigration is just getting going for them. We were however warned to watch for pickpockets on the trolley to Belem.

  205. @Kylie
    @PiltdownMan

    "I’ve pretty much stopped buying books of late. My public library system is pretty good, and I’m able to find almost anything I want to read in it...."

    Do you read books online? A lot of good books are available for free online. Google books, Project Gutenberg, Faded Page, the Internet Archive, etc. If I'm interested in a book, I Google the title and pdf.

    You probably know all this but it bears repeating.

    Replies: @Jack D

    Until recently you could get a lot of books from Z-Library but the Feds took it down. It’s still available on the tor network.

    There is also Library Genesis which has many of the same books as Z-Library but a less user friendly front end.

    Finally there is Mobilism.

    All of the above sites probably violate the copyright laws of whatever country you are in (they have current ebooks and not just out of copyright classics) but they do have a lot of books.

    Also if you borrow ebooks from your local public library it’s possible to strip out the DRM time limit.

    Personally I would never do anything illegal but I have heard that other people do such things.

    It’s best not to be too explicit about these things so that they don’t become so popular that idiots start to do it. Z-Library was around for years and used by college students in 3rd world countries who couldn’t afford $200 for a textbook, but then idiots on Tik-Tok started promoting it for the masses and that was the last straw.

    Do be careful because if you search for “Name of Bestseller” and “PDF” you are going to get taken to a lot of sites where you will download viruses and not the bestseller that you want.

  206. @John Johnson
    @New Dealer


    Drag isn’t sexual even if it appears to be.
     
    That is simultaneously the most laughably preposterous and most instantly refutable assertion I’ve encountered in my 70 years. I’m sorely tempted to mockery, but will refrain.

    Stories about drag queens having sex misses the point. So does pointing out some oddball that is attracted to them.

    A drag show isn't like a strip show. The audience is not sexually aroused.

    Which group do you think is attracted to them? Are you attracted to fat gay men dressed as celebrity women?

    The boobs aren't real and they actually frown on trannies taking part. It's gay men dressing up as women and dancing/singing. Not my cup of tea but it isn't a strip show or burlesque act.

    Hint: You aren't actually supposed to be attracted to this:

    https://s.hdnux.com/photos/43/51/70/9346616/4/rawImage.jpg

    They aren't trying to trick anyone into thinking they are women. Kind of a duh and conservatives look like idiots for showing up to tranny brunches. Those have been going on a long time and straight men aren't going to them with their girlfriends to oggle fat gay men in terrible costumes.

    Most of you have clearly not lived in the city. Trannies and drag queens are not the same thing. The latter are not trying to live as women. They put on those costumes for the show.

    There is a real problem with putting kids on hormones and talking 21 year olds into off chopping their genitals. But drag queen brunches are just a silly gay thing and should be ignored. It's like freaking out over Rocky Horror Picture Show. Not might cup of tea either but it isn't the problem.

    Replies: @New Dealer, @Curle

    An old retired city cop I knew in the ‘80s who was on the force in the ‘50s told me that the audience for drag shows back then was middle aged couples. Jack Benny played up that angle from time to time, and Liberace played to the same audience.

    • Replies: @John Johnson
    @Curle

    Most of the couples at a drag show will be straight.

    Most of the couples at West Side Story will also be straight.

    Both seem like a really gay way to spend an evening but I can acknowledge that there are straight couples at both. Ru Paul's drag show is popular with straight women and I really don't understand why.

    I understand how most White people think when it comes to politics but I don't understand their entertainment choices. Only rarely is there a movie in the theater that I want to watch. I almost watched Northman but it was pulled early at my theater for some garbage movie. Had a date night setup with my wife and we show up to find it was pulled.

  207. @Curle
    @Reg Cæsar

    “To avoid the inevitable ambiguity. It needs to be spelled out in the document itself.”

    Or what, you win by default? That’s not how law works. By the way, the tenth amendment takes care of that problem and was understood to take care of that problem by contemporary legal scholars like St George Tucker who was a professor of law at William and Mary.

    “The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.”

    10th Amend to the US Constitution.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    Or what, you win by default? That’s not how law works.

    That’s how lawyers work.

    • Replies: @Curle
    @Reg Cæsar

    “That’s how lawyers work.”

    No. They use rules of statutory construction. And the rules of statutory construction do not permit the interpretation you favor.

  208. @Curle
    @John Johnson

    An old retired city cop I knew in the ‘80s who was on the force in the ‘50s told me that the audience for drag shows back then was middle aged couples. Jack Benny played up that angle from time to time, and Liberace played to the same audience.

    Replies: @John Johnson

    Most of the couples at a drag show will be straight.

    Most of the couples at West Side Story will also be straight.

    Both seem like a really gay way to spend an evening but I can acknowledge that there are straight couples at both. Ru Paul’s drag show is popular with straight women and I really don’t understand why.

    I understand how most White people think when it comes to politics but I don’t understand their entertainment choices. Only rarely is there a movie in the theater that I want to watch. I almost watched Northman but it was pulled early at my theater for some garbage movie. Had a date night setup with my wife and we show up to find it was pulled.

  209. @Rohirrimborn
    @XBardon Kaldlan

    If you're old enough to know Christine Jorgensen then I'm sure you know about Renee Richards a very well known 70s era tranny. Renee was my eye doc Richard Raskind pre-transistion.

    Replies: @XBardon Kaldlan

    Yes,its all coming back to me now. Richards was a very good tennis player,she/he 😥 was the first to take on women in competition,though I don’t recall the outcomes.
    Mainly I recall Johnny Carson having a lot of fun with this.

  210. anonymous[209] • Disclaimer says:
    @AndrewR
    OT: Person (I think female) named Nayyera Haq tells us "Zelenskyy is now stuck in the unenviable position of selling democracy to American leaders who no longer want it."

    https://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/amp/rcna60647

    On topic: making it to the summit of Everest was the "scoop of the century"? Wow

    Replies: @anonymous, @PiltdownMan

    There was an approximately 150 year period where English money and English rich people were on the spot for more geographical and expensive sporting occasions than those from other countries – started with Byron swimming the Hellespont before it was trashed, and basically ended in the 1950s as the victors of WWII aged out of being young and on the spot for such things.
    Morris was one of the last of these guys, and that tall mountain in the Himalayas was and is an interesting place, and as such he is still talked about.
    There was a similar period in the ancient world where it was Athenians who cataloged the unusual places, and later on Romans.
    In the Orient, it was the Chinese and, to a lesser extent, the Koreans. But it comes and goes.

    • Replies: @AndrewR
    @anonymous

    Humans climbing Everest for the first time must have been exciting for some people but to call it "the scoop of the century" is such retarded hyperbole I think Steve has probably suffered severe damage to the brain and he needs to seek immediate medical attention.

    Replies: @anonymous

  211. anonymous[209] • Disclaimer says:
    @PiltdownMan
    @Gordo

    I bought a copy and it was worth it. A couple of other comments above agree that it is worth reading.

    I've pretty much stopped buying books of late. My public library system is pretty good, and I'm able to find almost anything I want to read in it, even if, sometimes, I have to reserve it and wait for a while.

    Replies: @Kylie, @anonymous

    Your public library system almost certainly does not buy any books from Mystery Grove Press (Wrangel, Junger) or even many Dover books (the anti-surrealist Jimenez, the historian of philosophy Marias), and you are missing out on many good views of recent and not so recent history by relying on your little public Democratic party affiliate library for a good choice of books (by the way I am not saying I am a big fan of Wrangel or Junger – I prefer other Russians, other Germans, as witnesses of truth — just saying their point of view is mostly left out for EVERYONE who relies on the public libraries). (The Fairfax Public Library system, for example, which is paid for by the million plus taxpayers in Northern Virginia who live in Fairfax Country, does not have a single copy of Nobel -prize winning anti-surrealist Jimenez’s famous book about Platero, at this moment, or even the Dover Press middle of the road, non-leftist history of philosophy by Marias, last time I checked).

    • Thanks: PiltdownMan, Gordo
  212. @Reg Cæsar
    @Curle


    Or what, you win by default? That’s not how law works.
     
    That's how lawyers work.

    Replies: @Curle

    “That’s how lawyers work.”

    No. They use rules of statutory construction. And the rules of statutory construction do not permit the interpretation you favor.

  213. @New Dealer
    @John Johnson

    Wow, here in Sailerlandia, someone demands, “Don’t believe your lying eyes!”


    Drag isn’t sexual even if it appears to be.
     
    That is simultaneously the most laughably preposterous and most instantly refutable assertion I’ve encountered in my 70 years. I’m sorely tempted to mockery, but will refrain.

    As so often, it took me less than five minutes of web search to find decisive refutations. I’m eager to block quote the lurid evidence, but will be.a good citizen and post them after the MORE button.

    Here, a self-described pedophile explains that yes, kid drag is sexually arousing to the performer and to the audience. https://www.lifesitenews.com/blogs/pedophilia-advocate-admits-conservatives-are-right-yes-kid-drag-shows-are-sexual/

    Here is a gay newsletter with a story about the sex lives of drag queens, and how horny their fans are for them. https://inmagazine.ca/2020/11/queens-of-the-round-table-the-sex-lives-of-drag-queens/

    https://www.lifesitenews.com/blogs/pedophilia-advocate-admits-conservatives-are-right-yes-kid-drag-shows-are-sexual/


    Let’s face it, when a pretty young boy tells the world he is gay and dances sensuously in front of grown men, wearing vampish dresses and makeup; when “she” strips off items of clothing or goes on stage scantily clad right from the off; when dollar bills are accepted as “tips” from an audience apparently wild with excitement; when all this is going on we are getting far more than just a celebration of gender diversity or an innocent display of precocious performance talent….

    It says, loud and proud, “I am a sexy kid, with sexy feelings. It’s totally cool for grown-ups to get turned on by me. I love it. That’s why I do this stuff. It’s great. It’s fun. It’s me!”…

    So why all the denial? Why the coy insistence that kids’ drag performance has nothing to do with their sexuality? Hypocrisy, basically. For decades now, gay politics has revolved around respectability, and that has meant aping hetero-normativity: gay couples with committed relationships, marriage, and parenthood, have become the promoted model; the old, carefree “promiscuity” of the gay life is frowned upon (if still a reality for many) and any cross-generational sexual contact with youth is now far more taboo than it ever was in the “bad old days” when homosexuality was a discretely practised underground phenomenon.

    Hypocrisy is detestable for its dishonesty; but on the other hand it works. Politically, it makes sense. Denial of the sexual element in kids’ drag performances has recently resulted in them being perceived as on the “respectable” side of the gender revolution, despite all the excitable right-wing huffing and puffing.
     

    https://inmagazine.ca/2020/11/queens-of-the-round-table-the-sex-lives-of-drag-queens/

    When potential sexual partners find out you’re a drag queen, what is their general reaction?
    Honey Davenport: …for the most part my experiences have been positive. After my season of RuPaul’s Drag Race began airing, Bob the Drag Queen told me, ‘Don’t be afraid to put your dick in a fan.’ At first I thought that sounded painful, but then I realized it was actually good advice. During the Season 11 tour, I changed my Grindr and Scruff name to ‘I Fuck My Fans.’ I felt like a rock star!…
     

    Do you attract sexual attention in or out of drag?

    Honey Davenport: I certainly hope so! I am the most sex-positive queen you will ever meet. With all the attention I pay to getting myself ready in drag, I hope people stare at my ass while I’m performing. My real desire is that they’ll want to rip my drag off, have a fun romp, and buy me a new outfit in the morning.

    Lucy Flawless: I absolutely attract more sexual energy when I’m in drag. Being in drag is the greatest icebreaker ever. Just about anyone will come up and talk to you. Personally, sex appeal is a large part of my stage persona, I project it on stage and I use it to get money from people and I get a few compliments along the way.

    Salina Estitties: Since my drag persona is a spicy, thick-bottomed Latina, I exude sex and sensuality in drag. I invite that energy in. I like to think part of my gig is allowing people to get in touch with their inner freak, so a lot of people want attention in some sort of way….
     

    Q.E.D.

    Replies: @John Johnson, @The Germ Theory of Disease

    Guys, guys — it’s a big world out there. Hell, it’s even a big drag world out there (or so I’m told). It’s quite probable you’re both right, and so are viewpoints Nine, Ten, and Eleven. It’s perfectly plausible that a nubile (as it were) 16-year-old drag queen is going to arouse some of the audience, and it’s plausible that people watch the overweight 45-year-old just for the entertainment value. From what I’ve been told, drag is a little like some of the more arcane Japanese art forms, like flower arranging or making a rock garden: there are all sorts of subtleties and nuances and subtexts to a performance that only a connoisseur can recognize.

    Some people go to art-house movie theaters because they actually like art cinema. Some go because they got dragged there by their date. Some go to impress their date by pretending they actually like Fellini and Godard. Life is large. Some people quarrel on the internet because they think they’re right, and some just fight because they just like to fight. Don’t be those guys.

  214. @Muggles
    @Harry Baldwin


    his book In a Sunburned Country eliminated any interest I had in visiting Australia.
     
    That and The Fatal Shore are the only two books about Australia I have ever read. Both pretty good for their time.

    As far as I know, they are the only two books on Australia ever written, by anyone.

    Neither was written by an Australian. Sunburned was written by American humorist Bryson and Fatal Shore by Brit historian Robert Hughes.

    The cultural/intellectual pool there appears to be pretty shallow.

    Replies: @Ed Case, @sb, @Art Deco

    Robert Hughes was an Australian, spent his working life in America.

  215. @Joe Stalin
    Tried tuning in the Chicago Police Department frequencies (460 Mhz) and was greeted by digital signals. Apparently, CPD has fully transitioned to encrypted P.25 digital to shut off the public from nefarious police activities like failure to protect lawful protests.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r0O5qTJ8V2I

    Note that the Chicago News Media is only interested in THEMSELVES being able to access CPD transmissions, and NOT the taxpayers paying for this police insolence.

    What useless Chicago Alderman will defend the citizen's right to monitor their public servants?

    Widespread P.25 encryption prevents the taxpayer from listening to their public servants.

    Like blinding the public to the world.

    https://twitter.com/fasc1nate/status/1602381633075965952

    Replies: @cityview

    Thank you for posting this, although I thought this decision was the mayor’s? I know the police department had talked about going to encryption some time ago, as some of the Chicago suburbs already have. I think it is a terrible decision. All Chicagoans citywide should be able to hear these channels in real time, twenty-four hours a day.

  216. @mc23
    @John Johnson

    If you've ever dealt with Psych doctors it's obvious a many of them should be Psych patients.

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon

    The entire “mental health profession” treads a very thin line between practitioner and client. It tends to attract people who are a bit that way themselves.

  217. @anonymous
    @AndrewR

    There was an approximately 150 year period where English money and English rich people were on the spot for more geographical and expensive sporting occasions than those from other countries - started with Byron swimming the Hellespont before it was trashed, and basically ended in the 1950s as the victors of WWII aged out of being young and on the spot for such things.
    Morris was one of the last of these guys, and that tall mountain in the Himalayas was and is an interesting place, and as such he is still talked about.
    There was a similar period in the ancient world where it was Athenians who cataloged the unusual places, and later on Romans.
    In the Orient, it was the Chinese and, to a lesser extent, the Koreans. But it comes and goes.

    Replies: @AndrewR

    Humans climbing Everest for the first time must have been exciting for some people but to call it “the scoop of the century” is such retarded hyperbole I think Steve has probably suffered severe damage to the brain and he needs to seek immediate medical attention.

    • Replies: @anonymous
    @AndrewR

    you do realize that it was a very boring century in the newspapers

    Look, you could have said something positive, or acted like you knew you were talking to someone who knows what he is talking about, and is worth engaging with, but you chose to ignore what I said and say "STEVE IS RETARDED".... I am disappointed in you.

    Do better next time, in your response you sounded almost as bad as the other narcissistic rage addicts who post here about physics and news and psychology. And you should be better than that.

  218. @Muggles
    @Harry Baldwin


    his book In a Sunburned Country eliminated any interest I had in visiting Australia.
     
    That and The Fatal Shore are the only two books about Australia I have ever read. Both pretty good for their time.

    As far as I know, they are the only two books on Australia ever written, by anyone.

    Neither was written by an Australian. Sunburned was written by American humorist Bryson and Fatal Shore by Brit historian Robert Hughes.

    The cultural/intellectual pool there appears to be pretty shallow.

    Replies: @Ed Case, @sb, @Art Deco

    Robert Hughes is Australian.
    Bill Bryson is a US born Briton
    Don’t get out much do you?

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    @sb

    Is it possible he DOES get out much, so he's not inside enough to waste time looking up some authors that I don't give a shit about on the internet?

    , @Muggles
    @sb

    No I don't look up on Wikipedia everyone I mention.

    Bryson lives here (while writing his books usually) and mainly writes about the US. If he was born in the US he is automatically an American citizen unless steps are taken to change that.

    Hughes was born in Australia (I did look him up on Wiki for the reply here) but left in 1964 for the UK and other places. Born in 1938.

    So his main career was not in Australia. Mainly known as an art critic. However his most successful work was The Fatal Shore about Australia. He wasn't living there when he wrote that.

    As I once mentioned here, I met some Australians in Hawaii while we were on vacation. I asked them about the Hughes book (very well done) or how much they study Australian history.

    Now my sample size was only two, but I concluded that Aussies don't study much of their history and I seemed to know far more about that then they did. Had no idea of the Hughes book and seemed puzzled about my interest in their country's history.

    People who have written well known books about Australia don't seem to live there, at least not in a long time (Hughes is now dead).

    I've been a lot of places but not Australia. I would like to visit (COVID mania there has kept me away of late). I have, on the other hand, met several Australians elsewhere who seem to be happy to be gone from there.

    They appear to be struggling to avoid becoming another offshore Chinese colony.

    Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease

  219. @JR Ewing
    @Arclight


    Frankly, like a lot of stuff I think lefty adoption of pro-transgender language and politics is just political tribal signaling with the percentage that actually have some knowledge of what it all entails in the low to mid single digits. Once normie Dems are exposed to actual facts, the mind recoils. So that gives me some hope that as more facts seep into the public sphere there will be a political sea change on WWT.
     
    This is why Trump is such a gift to the democrats at this point. There is so much personal distaste for him in the population as a whole - some of it unfairly cultivated, some of it deserved - that "normie dems" can't get past it in order to voice their opposition to the woke nonsense. My wife, a rich white lady who could fairly be described as a "second wave feminist", said as much to me after the election: "I think I would prefer to vote for republicans on a lot of these issues now, but I just can't get past how awful Trump is."

    Frankly, I have reason to believe her. She is increasingly uncomfortable with black and minority preferences, she has concluded that unfettered immigration harms the American working class, and she very much dislikes the homosexualization of society. She is a prime "normie dem" who in the aggregate could put a stop to much of the democrat minoritarian excesses.

    But, fairly or not, the cult of Trump gets in the way and gives license to the democrats by default to keep going.

    Replies: @RadicalCenter, @Curle, @Anonymous

    I’ll bet your wife also hated Romney for being a vicious dog-abuser…

    Maybe you should consider who plants these ideas in the heads of silly females?

  220. @sb
    @Muggles

    Robert Hughes is Australian.
    Bill Bryson is a US born Briton
    Don't get out much do you?

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @Muggles

    Is it possible he DOES get out much, so he’s not inside enough to waste time looking up some authors that I don’t give a shit about on the internet?

  221. @sb
    @Muggles

    Robert Hughes is Australian.
    Bill Bryson is a US born Briton
    Don't get out much do you?

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @Muggles

    No I don’t look up on Wikipedia everyone I mention.

    Bryson lives here (while writing his books usually) and mainly writes about the US. If he was born in the US he is automatically an American citizen unless steps are taken to change that.

    Hughes was born in Australia (I did look him up on Wiki for the reply here) but left in 1964 for the UK and other places. Born in 1938.

    So his main career was not in Australia. Mainly known as an art critic. However his most successful work was The Fatal Shore about Australia. He wasn’t living there when he wrote that.

    As I once mentioned here, I met some Australians in Hawaii while we were on vacation. I asked them about the Hughes book (very well done) or how much they study Australian history.

    Now my sample size was only two, but I concluded that Aussies don’t study much of their history and I seemed to know far more about that then they did. Had no idea of the Hughes book and seemed puzzled about my interest in their country’s history.

    People who have written well known books about Australia don’t seem to live there, at least not in a long time (Hughes is now dead).

    I’ve been a lot of places but not Australia. I would like to visit (COVID mania there has kept me away of late). I have, on the other hand, met several Australians elsewhere who seem to be happy to be gone from there.

    They appear to be struggling to avoid becoming another offshore Chinese colony.

    • Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease
    @Muggles

    "Now my sample size was only two, but I concluded that Aussies don’t study much of their history and I seemed to know far more about that then they did. Had no idea of the Hughes book and seemed puzzled about my interest in their country’s history."

    I used to contribute to an Australian group blog as the resident crackpot Yank (or "sep/seppo" as they call us), and got to know a large number of Australians online (and dated a few sheilas IRL), and I can tell you that the non-yobbo sort does know Australian history quite well; and that as usual the left-leaning ones tend to be embarrassed and ashamed by feats of bravery and historical endurance of which they ought to be justly proud. Never been to the place, but I'd love to visit, they are a fun and funny and strangely self-effacing people.

    As to becoming another offshore Chinese colony, they aren't fighting it nearly as hard as they should be, and seem rather naive about the notion that their country is in fact being eaten alive by non-Western immigration -- and it's not just China, it's India, the entire Middle East, and even Sudan. The place will be unrecognizable, and unlivable, in about another 30 years, but they don't seem to notice, and attack those who do.

    Like the USA and Canada, they are importing, or really (((they))) are importing, a new African/Muslim criminal underclass, and a new Chinese-Indian overclass: one which despises and sneers at the locals, has no lasting connection to the place, and no desire to. I honestly have no idea what is wrong with white people, they seem to have collectively lost their minds.

    But you have to admit that this is hilarious:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1EY7lYRneHc

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @sb

  222. @HammerJack
    Q: How many Americans would you guess are on Medicaid now?

    https://archive.ph/i6Gnu.
    WSJ editorial, well worth reading.

    100 million. 100 f*ing million.

    Replies: @Jim Don Bob, @Art Deco

    About 91 million are enrolled in Medicaid or CHIP; the figure was 57 million in 2013. SNAP (ne Food Stamps) enrollment has been between 40 and 45 million since 2010; from 1980 to 2004 it was usually just north of 20 million.

    Scott Sumner now contends the ratio of public expenditure on medical care in this country to gdp equals that in Europe; it’s just that it’s spent more inefficiently here.

    • Replies: @John Johnson
    @Art Deco

    About 91 million are enrolled in Medicaid or CHIP; the figure was 57 million in 2013. SNAP (ne Food Stamps) enrollment has been between 40 and 45 million since 2010; from 1980 to 2004 it was usually just north of 20 million.

    And the middle class gets increased premiums which limits the number of children they can have.

    Our Republicans are total boobs. They defend what they call the "free market" health care system when it fact it heavily subsidizes not just the poor but also illegals.

    Suggesting an increase in spending on the middle class is an anathema to the Republicans. That is socialism they will say. But they can always find room in the budget for a tax cut aimed at the wealthy.

    No I don't support the Democrats.

    I hate them all.

    Two parties of reality denying boobs. One believes the Bantu are tanned Dutch that have been suppressed by Whites while the other believes amoral health insurance companies can always be relied upon to serve the public interest.

    Replies: @PhysicistDave

  223. @Muggles
    @Harry Baldwin


    his book In a Sunburned Country eliminated any interest I had in visiting Australia.
     
    That and The Fatal Shore are the only two books about Australia I have ever read. Both pretty good for their time.

    As far as I know, they are the only two books on Australia ever written, by anyone.

    Neither was written by an Australian. Sunburned was written by American humorist Bryson and Fatal Shore by Brit historian Robert Hughes.

    The cultural/intellectual pool there appears to be pretty shallow.

    Replies: @Ed Case, @sb, @Art Deco

    As far as I know, they are the only two books on Australia ever written, by anyone.

    You need to visit an academic library.

    Keith Windschuttle writes works on Australian history for the general reader.

  224. The notable thing about the transmania is that it discredits the mental health trade. Physicians in hospital administration have not in some time been a respected segment; every physician or surgeon sanctioned for refusing to accede to transmania moves one of those administrator characters from the ‘bureaucratic lump’ column to the ‘criminal’ column.

    One element of the collapse of character among our professional-managerial bourgeoisie is the we can no longer trust our doctors. Here’s a bloke in northeast Ohio about his dealings with the family doctor at the beginning of 2022:

    https://davidgriffey.blogspot.com/2022/01/what-our-doctors-office-said.html

  225. @Art Deco
    @HammerJack

    About 91 million are enrolled in Medicaid or CHIP; the figure was 57 million in 2013. SNAP (ne Food Stamps) enrollment has been between 40 and 45 million since 2010; from 1980 to 2004 it was usually just north of 20 million.

    Scott Sumner now contends the ratio of public expenditure on medical care in this country to gdp equals that in Europe; it's just that it's spent more inefficiently here.

    Replies: @John Johnson

    About 91 million are enrolled in Medicaid or CHIP; the figure was 57 million in 2013. SNAP (ne Food Stamps) enrollment has been between 40 and 45 million since 2010; from 1980 to 2004 it was usually just north of 20 million.

    And the middle class gets increased premiums which limits the number of children they can have.

    Our Republicans are total boobs. They defend what they call the “free market” health care system when it fact it heavily subsidizes not just the poor but also illegals.

    Suggesting an increase in spending on the middle class is an anathema to the Republicans. That is socialism they will say. But they can always find room in the budget for a tax cut aimed at the wealthy.

    No I don’t support the Democrats.

    I hate them all.

    Two parties of reality denying boobs. One believes the Bantu are tanned Dutch that have been suppressed by Whites while the other believes amoral health insurance companies can always be relied upon to serve the public interest.

    • Replies: @PhysicistDave
    @John Johnson

    Anyone reading any comment by “John Johnson” needs to know how he operates:

    Recently, “Johnson” cut-and-pasted a vicious screed by a White supremacist and falsely and maliciously claimed that I had written it, even though I obviously did not and even though I have consistently attacked such White-supremacist nonsense.

    I pointed this out, but “Johnson” did not retract the libel.

    (For anyone who cares, here is the comment, not by me but by someone who calls himself “theMann,” from which “Johnson” cut-and-pasted the White-supremacist nonsense that he lied and claimed was from me. So anyone can easily check and see what “Johnson” did.)

    I suggested that this shows “Johnson” is insane.

    However, anyone familiar with US Deep State political interference in domestic politics going back to the 1950s (google "COINTELPRO") and intensifying dramatically since 2015 has got to ask himself if “Johnson” is a Fed.

    Everyone: draw your own conclusions. In any case, the evidence I have provided, which anyone can easily check for himself with a couple of clicks, proves that Johnson is not a normal human being.

    I intend to attach a version of this note to every single comment “Johnson” posts on this site.

    I have not yet engaged a lawyer on this matter, but I do not like being libeled in such an open and bizarre manner.

  226. @Jack D
    @Jim Don Bob

    The Chinese still smoke and spit more than Americans but probably less than they did in 1987. Americans used to smoke and spit more also.

    Shanghai makes NY seem like a small town by comparison. The skyscrapers stretch to the horizon. But what's lacking is the sense of menace that you feel in NY or any big US city. No crazy homeless people on the street and stinking up subway cars. You can walk down any street at any hour of the day or night and not fear getting mugged.

    I wouldn't trade it for NY or China for America - the flaws outweigh the benefits, esp. now that Xi has cracked down (10 years ago the bargain that as long as you stayed out of politics the authorities would leave you alone to live your life and get rich was more intact) but it's not quite the same as NY because it's much less violent than American cities. Tokyo even more so. All of Japan has 300 murders/year, which is about the same as the number in Chicago in 6 months - in other words the murder rate in Chicago is 100x greater than in Japan.

    Replies: @Chrisnonymous

    I think you mean 100% greater–600/year vs 30,000/year.

    In 2012, I traveled through China. Smoking everywhere. Took sleeper trains, and people smoked at the end of the cars, but left the doors open, so the smoke just passed in. Enough smokers that there was usually someone smoking the whole time.

    Spitting indoors was a rural thing, but very real. I remember one apparent farmer in a train station who spit a huge loogie on the stone floor, and it just sat there glistening. Gross and shocking, but urban life very different.

    If not for Xi and the CCP, China would be the awe of the world now. The only city I didn’t like was Canton–filled with African migrants.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    @Chrisnonymous


    Gross and shocking, but urban life very different.
     
    Not completely. You may still see a woman have her baby poo in the bushes outside a gleaming 30 story office building in downtown Shanghai. Granted that may be a case of "you can take the girl out of the country, but ..."

    I don't agree about Canton, but thanks so much for using the mellifluous name. There were 20,000 Africans in the "Chocolate City" district there. That was before many were kicked out. It came out to only 0.05%, in this city of 40 million! For the country of China, it's well lower than that. The Whitest county in the Whitest part of America could only wish their percentage was 10 x that.

    If not for Xi and the CCP, China would be the awe of the world now.
     
    Absolutely!

    Replies: @Jack D

  227. @Bardon Kaldian
    Basically, a fetishist whose life revolved around the fetish.

    Replies: @Bill Jones, @James N. Kennett, @Chrisnonymous

    The fetish argument doesn’t really cut it for me. Crossdressing has been a thing for a long time, but usually associated with being the receptive sexual partner for men, as is the phenomenon of transsexualism in places like Thailand, India, and Brazil, where it has been established longer.

    As far as I can tell, these macho late-life transitions are not really all about acting out the female role in sexual encounters. Often, they don’t even bother to try to make themselves femininely sexy-looking, which crossdressing gays and 3rd world ladyboys almost always do (even if they fail at it).

    I think there’s some other brain problem, although I’ll be darned if I can say what it is.

    • Replies: @John Johnson
    @Chrisnonymous

    As far as I can tell, these macho late-life transitions are not really all about acting out the female role in sexual encounters.

    I really doubt that.

    I know someone that works with transwhatevers and is sounds like they all wear slutty clothes regardless of age. One has giant boobs and wears a skimpy top even if it is cold out. His giant nips poke out in front of the staff and gets mad if anyone looks in that direction as if he/she is tired of being sexually objectified. The staff just roll their eyes.

    Are we supposed to believe that they only desire female sexual attention but wouldn't act on it?

    When I lived in the city I would see one or two trannies on occasion at the bars and they would always be wearing revealing clothes. I never once saw a straight guy hitting on them but they always looked lonely. I doubt they would say no to playing the woman for an evening.

    Maybe the older ones only dress up.

    Replies: @PhysicistDave

    , @Anonymous
    @Chrisnonymous

    Just read up on autogynephilia. Sure, it sounds bizarre at first, so no wonder normal people are confused. But it's pretty simple to grasp. And then it all makes sense.


    I think there’s some other brain problem, although I’ll be darned if I can say what it is.
     
    The only problems are perversion and selfishness.
  228. @Chrisnonymous
    @Bardon Kaldian

    The fetish argument doesn't really cut it for me. Crossdressing has been a thing for a long time, but usually associated with being the receptive sexual partner for men, as is the phenomenon of transsexualism in places like Thailand, India, and Brazil, where it has been established longer.

    As far as I can tell, these macho late-life transitions are not really all about acting out the female role in sexual encounters. Often, they don't even bother to try to make themselves femininely sexy-looking, which crossdressing gays and 3rd world ladyboys almost always do (even if they fail at it).

    I think there's some other brain problem, although I'll be darned if I can say what it is.

    Replies: @John Johnson, @Anonymous

    As far as I can tell, these macho late-life transitions are not really all about acting out the female role in sexual encounters.

    I really doubt that.

    I know someone that works with transwhatevers and is sounds like they all wear slutty clothes regardless of age. One has giant boobs and wears a skimpy top even if it is cold out. His giant nips poke out in front of the staff and gets mad if anyone looks in that direction as if he/she is tired of being sexually objectified. The staff just roll their eyes.

    Are we supposed to believe that they only desire female sexual attention but wouldn’t act on it?

    When I lived in the city I would see one or two trannies on occasion at the bars and they would always be wearing revealing clothes. I never once saw a straight guy hitting on them but they always looked lonely. I doubt they would say no to playing the woman for an evening.

    Maybe the older ones only dress up.

    • Replies: @PhysicistDave
    @John Johnson

    Anyone reading any comment by “John Johnson” needs to know how he operates:

    Recently, “Johnson” cut-and-pasted a vicious screed by a White supremacist and falsely and maliciously claimed that I had written it, even though I obviously did not and even though I have consistently attacked such White-supremacist nonsense.

    I pointed this out, but “Johnson” did not retract the libel.

    (For anyone who cares, here is the comment, not by me but by someone who calls himself “theMann,” from which “Johnson” cut-and-pasted the White-supremacist nonsense that he lied and claimed was from me. So anyone can easily check and see what “Johnson” did.)

    I suggested that this shows “Johnson” is insane.

    However, anyone familiar with US Deep State political interference in domestic politics going back to the 1950s (google "COINTELPRO") and intensifying dramatically since 2015 has got to ask himself if “Johnson” is a Fed.

    Everyone: draw your own conclusions. In any case, the evidence I have provided, which anyone can easily check for himself with a couple of clicks, proves that Johnson is not a normal human being.

    I intend to attach a version of this note to every single comment “Johnson” posts on this site.

    I have not yet engaged a lawyer on this matter, but I do not like being libeled in such an open and bizarre manner.

  229. @Muggles
    @sb

    No I don't look up on Wikipedia everyone I mention.

    Bryson lives here (while writing his books usually) and mainly writes about the US. If he was born in the US he is automatically an American citizen unless steps are taken to change that.

    Hughes was born in Australia (I did look him up on Wiki for the reply here) but left in 1964 for the UK and other places. Born in 1938.

    So his main career was not in Australia. Mainly known as an art critic. However his most successful work was The Fatal Shore about Australia. He wasn't living there when he wrote that.

    As I once mentioned here, I met some Australians in Hawaii while we were on vacation. I asked them about the Hughes book (very well done) or how much they study Australian history.

    Now my sample size was only two, but I concluded that Aussies don't study much of their history and I seemed to know far more about that then they did. Had no idea of the Hughes book and seemed puzzled about my interest in their country's history.

    People who have written well known books about Australia don't seem to live there, at least not in a long time (Hughes is now dead).

    I've been a lot of places but not Australia. I would like to visit (COVID mania there has kept me away of late). I have, on the other hand, met several Australians elsewhere who seem to be happy to be gone from there.

    They appear to be struggling to avoid becoming another offshore Chinese colony.

    Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease

    “Now my sample size was only two, but I concluded that Aussies don’t study much of their history and I seemed to know far more about that then they did. Had no idea of the Hughes book and seemed puzzled about my interest in their country’s history.”

    I used to contribute to an Australian group blog as the resident crackpot Yank (or “sep/seppo” as they call us), and got to know a large number of Australians online (and dated a few sheilas IRL), and I can tell you that the non-yobbo sort does know Australian history quite well; and that as usual the left-leaning ones tend to be embarrassed and ashamed by feats of bravery and historical endurance of which they ought to be justly proud. Never been to the place, but I’d love to visit, they are a fun and funny and strangely self-effacing people.

    As to becoming another offshore Chinese colony, they aren’t fighting it nearly as hard as they should be, and seem rather naive about the notion that their country is in fact being eaten alive by non-Western immigration — and it’s not just China, it’s India, the entire Middle East, and even Sudan. The place will be unrecognizable, and unlivable, in about another 30 years, but they don’t seem to notice, and attack those who do.

    Like the USA and Canada, they are importing, or really (((they))) are importing, a new African/Muslim criminal underclass, and a new Chinese-Indian overclass: one which despises and sneers at the locals, has no lasting connection to the place, and no desire to. I honestly have no idea what is wrong with white people, they seem to have collectively lost their minds.

    But you have to admit that this is hilarious:

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    @The Germ Theory of Disease

    LOL and Thanks

    , @sb
    @The Germ Theory of Disease

    The notion of an American giving advice to Australians on how they should ŕun their country would strike most Australians as laughable.

    Remember most Australians on this site have spent time in the US.
    The other way around not so much ( to say the least)

    But then knowledge and experience have never stopped an American from expressing an opinion (usually very loudly )

  230. anonymous[209] • Disclaimer says:
    @AndrewR
    @anonymous

    Humans climbing Everest for the first time must have been exciting for some people but to call it "the scoop of the century" is such retarded hyperbole I think Steve has probably suffered severe damage to the brain and he needs to seek immediate medical attention.

    Replies: @anonymous

    you do realize that it was a very boring century in the newspapers

    Look, you could have said something positive, or acted like you knew you were talking to someone who knows what he is talking about, and is worth engaging with, but you chose to ignore what I said and say “STEVE IS RETARDED”…. I am disappointed in you.

    Do better next time, in your response you sounded almost as bad as the other narcissistic rage addicts who post here about physics and news and psychology. And you should be better than that.

  231. Anonymous[387] • Disclaimer says:
    @Chrisnonymous
    @Bardon Kaldian

    The fetish argument doesn't really cut it for me. Crossdressing has been a thing for a long time, but usually associated with being the receptive sexual partner for men, as is the phenomenon of transsexualism in places like Thailand, India, and Brazil, where it has been established longer.

    As far as I can tell, these macho late-life transitions are not really all about acting out the female role in sexual encounters. Often, they don't even bother to try to make themselves femininely sexy-looking, which crossdressing gays and 3rd world ladyboys almost always do (even if they fail at it).

    I think there's some other brain problem, although I'll be darned if I can say what it is.

    Replies: @John Johnson, @Anonymous

    Just read up on autogynephilia. Sure, it sounds bizarre at first, so no wonder normal people are confused. But it’s pretty simple to grasp. And then it all makes sense.

    I think there’s some other brain problem, although I’ll be darned if I can say what it is.

    The only problems are perversion and selfishness.

  232. @Chrisnonymous
    @Jack D

    I think you mean 100% greater--600/year vs 30,000/year.

    In 2012, I traveled through China. Smoking everywhere. Took sleeper trains, and people smoked at the end of the cars, but left the doors open, so the smoke just passed in. Enough smokers that there was usually someone smoking the whole time.

    Spitting indoors was a rural thing, but very real. I remember one apparent farmer in a train station who spit a huge loogie on the stone floor, and it just sat there glistening. Gross and shocking, but urban life very different.

    If not for Xi and the CCP, China would be the awe of the world now. The only city I didn't like was Canton--filled with African migrants.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

    Gross and shocking, but urban life very different.

    Not completely. You may still see a woman have her baby poo in the bushes outside a gleaming 30 story office building in downtown Shanghai. Granted that may be a case of “you can take the girl out of the country, but …”

    I don’t agree about Canton, but thanks so much for using the mellifluous name. There were 20,000 Africans in the “Chocolate City” district there. That was before many were kicked out. It came out to only 0.05%, in this city of 40 million! For the country of China, it’s well lower than that. The Whitest county in the Whitest part of America could only wish their percentage was 10 x that.

    If not for Xi and the CCP, China would be the awe of the world now.

    Absolutely!

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Traditionally Chinese toddlers did not wear diapers but "split crotch pants" with their butts hanging out so they could relieve themselves whenever and wherever they had the urge. I kid you not.

    However, I think that outside of the countryside this is going by the wayside for the most part. Maybe you saw this in Shanghai but that was the exception, not the rule nowadays. Yes, the Chinese have some habits that seem strange to Western eyes (squat toilets for one) and they still smoke and spit more than Westerners but for the most part they are increasingly in line with modern norms. Modernity is really a very new thing to them and they have come incredibly far incredibly fast so if they lag a little in some aspects they can be forgiven. It's not an exaggeration to say that they have had developed exponentially in the last 35 years.

    https://hbr.org/resources/images/article_assets/2013/11/nominalgdp.gif

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

  233. @The Germ Theory of Disease
    @Muggles

    "Now my sample size was only two, but I concluded that Aussies don’t study much of their history and I seemed to know far more about that then they did. Had no idea of the Hughes book and seemed puzzled about my interest in their country’s history."

    I used to contribute to an Australian group blog as the resident crackpot Yank (or "sep/seppo" as they call us), and got to know a large number of Australians online (and dated a few sheilas IRL), and I can tell you that the non-yobbo sort does know Australian history quite well; and that as usual the left-leaning ones tend to be embarrassed and ashamed by feats of bravery and historical endurance of which they ought to be justly proud. Never been to the place, but I'd love to visit, they are a fun and funny and strangely self-effacing people.

    As to becoming another offshore Chinese colony, they aren't fighting it nearly as hard as they should be, and seem rather naive about the notion that their country is in fact being eaten alive by non-Western immigration -- and it's not just China, it's India, the entire Middle East, and even Sudan. The place will be unrecognizable, and unlivable, in about another 30 years, but they don't seem to notice, and attack those who do.

    Like the USA and Canada, they are importing, or really (((they))) are importing, a new African/Muslim criminal underclass, and a new Chinese-Indian overclass: one which despises and sneers at the locals, has no lasting connection to the place, and no desire to. I honestly have no idea what is wrong with white people, they seem to have collectively lost their minds.

    But you have to admit that this is hilarious:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1EY7lYRneHc

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @sb

    LOL and Thanks

  234. @The Germ Theory of Disease
    @Muggles

    "Now my sample size was only two, but I concluded that Aussies don’t study much of their history and I seemed to know far more about that then they did. Had no idea of the Hughes book and seemed puzzled about my interest in their country’s history."

    I used to contribute to an Australian group blog as the resident crackpot Yank (or "sep/seppo" as they call us), and got to know a large number of Australians online (and dated a few sheilas IRL), and I can tell you that the non-yobbo sort does know Australian history quite well; and that as usual the left-leaning ones tend to be embarrassed and ashamed by feats of bravery and historical endurance of which they ought to be justly proud. Never been to the place, but I'd love to visit, they are a fun and funny and strangely self-effacing people.

    As to becoming another offshore Chinese colony, they aren't fighting it nearly as hard as they should be, and seem rather naive about the notion that their country is in fact being eaten alive by non-Western immigration -- and it's not just China, it's India, the entire Middle East, and even Sudan. The place will be unrecognizable, and unlivable, in about another 30 years, but they don't seem to notice, and attack those who do.

    Like the USA and Canada, they are importing, or really (((they))) are importing, a new African/Muslim criminal underclass, and a new Chinese-Indian overclass: one which despises and sneers at the locals, has no lasting connection to the place, and no desire to. I honestly have no idea what is wrong with white people, they seem to have collectively lost their minds.

    But you have to admit that this is hilarious:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1EY7lYRneHc

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @sb

    The notion of an American giving advice to Australians on how they should ŕun their country would strike most Australians as laughable.

    Remember most Australians on this site have spent time in the US.
    The other way around not so much ( to say the least)

    But then knowledge and experience have never stopped an American from expressing an opinion (usually very loudly )

  235. @John Johnson
    @Chrisnonymous

    As far as I can tell, these macho late-life transitions are not really all about acting out the female role in sexual encounters.

    I really doubt that.

    I know someone that works with transwhatevers and is sounds like they all wear slutty clothes regardless of age. One has giant boobs and wears a skimpy top even if it is cold out. His giant nips poke out in front of the staff and gets mad if anyone looks in that direction as if he/she is tired of being sexually objectified. The staff just roll their eyes.

    Are we supposed to believe that they only desire female sexual attention but wouldn't act on it?

    When I lived in the city I would see one or two trannies on occasion at the bars and they would always be wearing revealing clothes. I never once saw a straight guy hitting on them but they always looked lonely. I doubt they would say no to playing the woman for an evening.

    Maybe the older ones only dress up.

    Replies: @PhysicistDave

    Anyone reading any comment by “John Johnson” needs to know how he operates:

    Recently, “Johnson” cut-and-pasted a vicious screed by a White supremacist and falsely and maliciously claimed that I had written it, even though I obviously did not and even though I have consistently attacked such White-supremacist nonsense.

    I pointed this out, but “Johnson” did not retract the libel.

    (For anyone who cares, here is the comment, not by me but by someone who calls himself “theMann,” from which “Johnson” cut-and-pasted the White-supremacist nonsense that he lied and claimed was from me. So anyone can easily check and see what “Johnson” did.)

    I suggested that this shows “Johnson” is insane.

    However, anyone familiar with US Deep State political interference in domestic politics going back to the 1950s (google “COINTELPRO”) and intensifying dramatically since 2015 has got to ask himself if “Johnson” is a Fed.

    Everyone: draw your own conclusions. In any case, the evidence I have provided, which anyone can easily check for himself with a couple of clicks, proves that Johnson is not a normal human being.

    I intend to attach a version of this note to every single comment “Johnson” posts on this site.

    I have not yet engaged a lawyer on this matter, but I do not like being libeled in such an open and bizarre manner.

  236. @John Johnson
    @Art Deco

    About 91 million are enrolled in Medicaid or CHIP; the figure was 57 million in 2013. SNAP (ne Food Stamps) enrollment has been between 40 and 45 million since 2010; from 1980 to 2004 it was usually just north of 20 million.

    And the middle class gets increased premiums which limits the number of children they can have.

    Our Republicans are total boobs. They defend what they call the "free market" health care system when it fact it heavily subsidizes not just the poor but also illegals.

    Suggesting an increase in spending on the middle class is an anathema to the Republicans. That is socialism they will say. But they can always find room in the budget for a tax cut aimed at the wealthy.

    No I don't support the Democrats.

    I hate them all.

    Two parties of reality denying boobs. One believes the Bantu are tanned Dutch that have been suppressed by Whites while the other believes amoral health insurance companies can always be relied upon to serve the public interest.

    Replies: @PhysicistDave

    Anyone reading any comment by “John Johnson” needs to know how he operates:

    Recently, “Johnson” cut-and-pasted a vicious screed by a White supremacist and falsely and maliciously claimed that I had written it, even though I obviously did not and even though I have consistently attacked such White-supremacist nonsense.

    I pointed this out, but “Johnson” did not retract the libel.

    (For anyone who cares, here is the comment, not by me but by someone who calls himself “theMann,” from which “Johnson” cut-and-pasted the White-supremacist nonsense that he lied and claimed was from me. So anyone can easily check and see what “Johnson” did.)

    I suggested that this shows “Johnson” is insane.

    However, anyone familiar with US Deep State political interference in domestic politics going back to the 1950s (google “COINTELPRO”) and intensifying dramatically since 2015 has got to ask himself if “Johnson” is a Fed.

    Everyone: draw your own conclusions. In any case, the evidence I have provided, which anyone can easily check for himself with a couple of clicks, proves that Johnson is not a normal human being.

    I intend to attach a version of this note to every single comment “Johnson” posts on this site.

    I have not yet engaged a lawyer on this matter, but I do not like being libeled in such an open and bizarre manner.

  237. Lol Germ Man musta hit pretty close to the mark to get you all riled up like that mate.

    Aussies are losing their country to Chinese and Indians. And discovering the endless joys of African enrichment with the Sudanese in Melbourne.

    Had dinner with an Aussie couple recently. Both had parents immigrate from Ireland in the 60s with passage free of charge on a steamer. When I expressed surprised at the “free passage” the wife apologized for a “terrible policy called ‘White Australia.’” My wife is non-White, so maybe she felt she needed to apologize I dunno.

    There’s nothing wrong with a society enacting laws to preserve its racial composition. Ask the Chinese, Japanese, Israelis or, well, anyone non-White.

    My Fellow Whites led the charge to dismantle the sensible White Australia policy because rayciss. It’s almost as if my fellow ethnics tirelessly seek to subvert and destroy White areas wherever they are by importing non-Whites. Weird.

  238. @AndrewR
    OT: Person (I think female) named Nayyera Haq tells us "Zelenskyy is now stuck in the unenviable position of selling democracy to American leaders who no longer want it."

    https://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/amp/rcna60647

    On topic: making it to the summit of Everest was the "scoop of the century"? Wow

    Replies: @anonymous, @PiltdownMan

    A commonly used term in decades past in the 20th century, here and in the British newspapers aka “Fleet Street.”

    John Morris’s report was widely referred to as the “Scoop of the Century” over there back then. As it happens, the BBC has a story airing online about Morris’s scoop airing in three weeks time, after January 5th.

    The Crowning of Everest

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m001gl6v

    • Replies: @AndrewR
    @PiltdownMan

    I'm not sure that even counts as the "scoop" of 1953. But it is interesting that within just a few decades time, climbing Everest went from "the scoop of the century" to a hobby that hundreds of people do annually.

  239. @PiltdownMan
    @AndrewR

    A commonly used term in decades past in the 20th century, here and in the British newspapers aka "Fleet Street."


    John Morris's report was widely referred to as the "Scoop of the Century" over there back then. As it happens, the BBC has a story airing online about Morris's scoop airing in three weeks time, after January 5th.


    The Crowning of Everest

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m001gl6v

    https://i.imgur.com/FcKftEO.jpg
     

    Replies: @AndrewR

    I’m not sure that even counts as the “scoop” of 1953. But it is interesting that within just a few decades time, climbing Everest went from “the scoop of the century” to a hobby that hundreds of people do annually.

  240. Well, in the case of the sick, perverted Wachowski Brothers who shamed themselves by “transitioning” into “transexual lesbians” I suspect the actual motivation behind the madness is an intense sexual fetish for lesbians. You see it in their early movies, an obsession with an idealized version of the creatures (not the hairy armpit, fat, mullet and flannel reality.) Gina Gershon and Jennifer Tilly getting it on while Joe Pantoliano is left bound and gagged to watch, Keanu Reeves character lusting after the lesbian Trinity in the Matrix movies, moving on to the idealized “transexual lesbian” relationship in the nasty Netflix series “Sense 8” that I turned off shortly into as all the gay crap was just too unpleasant. So they transformed themselves into something they think could attract an actual lesbian in order to live out their fantasies. All that money just enabled them to destroy themselves just like many a celebrity or lottery winner, an embarrassing shameful end to their careers.

  241. @Achmed E. Newman
    @Chrisnonymous


    Gross and shocking, but urban life very different.
     
    Not completely. You may still see a woman have her baby poo in the bushes outside a gleaming 30 story office building in downtown Shanghai. Granted that may be a case of "you can take the girl out of the country, but ..."

    I don't agree about Canton, but thanks so much for using the mellifluous name. There were 20,000 Africans in the "Chocolate City" district there. That was before many were kicked out. It came out to only 0.05%, in this city of 40 million! For the country of China, it's well lower than that. The Whitest county in the Whitest part of America could only wish their percentage was 10 x that.

    If not for Xi and the CCP, China would be the awe of the world now.
     
    Absolutely!

    Replies: @Jack D

    Traditionally Chinese toddlers did not wear diapers but “split crotch pants” with their butts hanging out so they could relieve themselves whenever and wherever they had the urge. I kid you not.

    However, I think that outside of the countryside this is going by the wayside for the most part. Maybe you saw this in Shanghai but that was the exception, not the rule nowadays. Yes, the Chinese have some habits that seem strange to Western eyes (squat toilets for one) and they still smoke and spit more than Westerners but for the most part they are increasingly in line with modern norms. Modernity is really a very new thing to them and they have come incredibly far incredibly fast so if they lag a little in some aspects they can be forgiven. It’s not an exaggeration to say that they have had developed exponentially in the last 35 years.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    @Jack D


    However, I think that outside of the countryside this is going by the wayside for the most part.
     
    Yeah, that's what I'm talking about, going by the wayside.

    [/snickering] I kind of agree, but people are people, and they are who they are. For instance, have they quit lighting off firecrackers at any old time of the day? It's kind of endearing, really.

    PS: I know about the pants.

  242. @Jack D
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Traditionally Chinese toddlers did not wear diapers but "split crotch pants" with their butts hanging out so they could relieve themselves whenever and wherever they had the urge. I kid you not.

    However, I think that outside of the countryside this is going by the wayside for the most part. Maybe you saw this in Shanghai but that was the exception, not the rule nowadays. Yes, the Chinese have some habits that seem strange to Western eyes (squat toilets for one) and they still smoke and spit more than Westerners but for the most part they are increasingly in line with modern norms. Modernity is really a very new thing to them and they have come incredibly far incredibly fast so if they lag a little in some aspects they can be forgiven. It's not an exaggeration to say that they have had developed exponentially in the last 35 years.

    https://hbr.org/resources/images/article_assets/2013/11/nominalgdp.gif

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

    However, I think that outside of the countryside this is going by the wayside for the most part.

    Yeah, that’s what I’m talking about, going by the wayside.

    [/snickering] I kind of agree, but people are people, and they are who they are. For instance, have they quit lighting off firecrackers at any old time of the day? It’s kind of endearing, really.

    PS: I know about the pants.

  243. @J.Ross
    @Anonymous

    Flowering from the meeting place of AI and (widespread, apolitical, objective) disappointment in what passes for movies nowadays is a new 4chan hobby of conjuring up scenes from movies that never were, but which look like they should have been. You can create entirely novel titles (Chrome Lords, Tree of Chaos, The Last Heist, Akira Kurosawa's Batman starring Toshiro Mifune, Ivan Reitman's remake of His Girl Friday starring Sigourney Weaver and William Petersen, William Friedkin's biopic of Saburo Sakai starring Takeshi Kitano, Clive Barker's film of the pre-Christian practices of the kings of Benin), flesh out actual Hollywood projects which fell through (Paul Verhoeven's Jerusalem starring Arnold Schwartzeneggar), or recast existing movies with their "original" personnel (The Matrix starring Will Smith, Die Hard starring Frank Sinatra).

    Replies: @J.Ross

    Follow-up to this: check out this anon’s reaction to these images, not because they are generated by AI, but because they are not poorly constructed anti-white propaganda:
    How does Midjourney have such a based indisputable style across unrelated prompts? Kns201 has the reins rn I guess? But these images are making anons emotional. If you’re 25-45 you’re aware of having 20 years of our culture pillaged, mocked and burnt alive by crypto bolsheviks counting down til their gulag gamboree. We have lost so much that many are forgetting what we had. Which is soul destroying. And no new film artist outside maybe QT has gotten visions through intact. And now comes this AI and with 10 different images, it’s like dead spots on my brain are flickering but need a jump start. We’ve had our imaginations dimmed by these Hollywood chimp cum sippers. But this AI not only uses a precise sorcery of 1980s metal fantasy, shadows, fashion, and most of all, and trickiest, the lighting, it filters out the le 80s shit too.
    This shit makes me as sad as it does appreciative and angry. Because this is what Americans would be making today if we hadn’t been hoodwinked and mind raped by the L.A. z10 starmakers. This AI or image masher is housed in a white sensibility so that its projections of foreign cultures and PoCs are strong, fair yet eccentric, free of all the Communist poison, or immune to it, to be unaware and unconcerned.
    Goddam it feels like a mental vacation from sore eyes to look at potential kinos knowing they won’t hate you and subliminally or loudly tell you to kys. These images nfl have potential for heavy viewer rehabilitation. It does have a predilection as others stated for an “evil halo” aesthetic that seems satanic lite, but such are these degraded times we subsist in. Imagine an American society ever tolerating She-Hulk and RoP, hopefully the end for all that is near. We don’t even need audio. I hope George Lucas sees these. He will weep. As will Bob Iger and JJ. For completely polar opposite reasons.

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