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From Taki’s Magazine:
Behind Transgenderism
Charles NormanNovember 13, 2019
… In some ways these alternative sexualities and genders are a return to the castration cults of the ancient world. The neo-gnostic Theosophists and anthroposophists of the 19th and early 20th century believed that early versions of humanity were hermaphroditic, that the male and female united in every individual. It was a modern version of the theory articulated by Aristophanes in Plato’s Symposium.
Indeed, behind transgenderism is the ancient gnostic idea that your “real body” is different from your physical one. It can’t be a coincidence that the Wachowski brothers, directors of the most successful gnosticism-themed movie of all time (1999’s The Matrix), have since “transitioned” into women and are now the Wachowski sisters. They understood “taking the red pill” to mean comprehending that they were women.
Gnosticism is a religious form of strict individualism. You can equate it therefor with a) narcissism (egoism) or b) Snowflakeism or c) Transgenderism or d) anorexia e) drug addiction etc. pp.
This equation is pretty obvious – and correct. Individualism has its existential risks.
Steiner is a somewhat different story than the absolutely utopian (=completely unrealistic/narcissistic = structurally unproductive) Anabaptists in Münster for example.
Steiner managed to get reasonable things done too. It is like Erich Fromm said oftentimes: Don’t underestimate narcissism. It can have a very productive side (cf. the Wachowski – eh – siblings).
Here’s the absolute frenzy Neo-Gnostic Anabaptism caused 1534/5 ff. in the flourishing (!) German city of Münster https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M%C3%BCnster_rebellion
This is wrong. Gnosis in general, and Gnosticism in particular (in its numerous variants) teach that essential human being, Anthropos, is androgynous- and not bisexual. Needles to say, this supposed being lives supra-physical life (so no sex in “higher spheres”) & his/her “fall” into the world of temporality & matter is a part of the creation-fall myth of origin.
In Western milieu, it is best described in the Corpus Hermeticum, 1st C AD, when androgynous & eternally aware Anthropos falls from the world of Mind/Nous into this world of sleep & sexuality. Other than that, this story is retold in virtually all high Perennialist doctrines, east & west (Greece, China, India, Tibet, Christian Gnosticism, Hermetism, variants of Kabbalah, Sufism, ..). Basically, it is the fall of the Divine Man, containing all sexual attributes & transcending them, into this empirical, sexualized world of birth & death (from plants to humans).
Transsexuals are a miserable cartoon of this myth: they remain in the world of sleep & sex; they don’t transcend sexual attraction by absorbing both sexual attributes & leaving them at lower levels (on the contrary, they’re sex-crazed); they’re, well- freaks, not supposedly liberated divine beings.
For those interested in the topic:
Also, everything you said is completely wrong.Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease, @Bardon Kaldian, @Ash Williams, @Lars Porsena
...and quite neatly in oppositional polarity dovetails w/the Hermeticists' The Kybalion......our physical plane of existence.. the differentiation of matter into........duality/polarity. from monad to duad. not as corruption or fall but as divine plan.
i much prefer the Hermeticists positive msg of Creator/ humanity over the more doomer Gnostic version of the psychotic demiurge/yahweh,.Replies: @Bardon Kaldian
Bruce Jenner & the Hermetic Rebis" here: https://www.counter-currents.com/2015/06/accommodate-this/, reprinted in my amazon-banned book available here at unz.comThe serial killers in Thomas Harris' first two Hannibal books are example of cartoon gnosticism. The Tooth Fairy tattoos Blake's Red Dragon on his back, and later eats a Blake manuscript. Buffalo Bill, of course, is trying to "make a woman suit" for himself. They both try to assimilate metaphysical ideas the only way they know how, physically. Rather than "absorbing the power of the female" (Evola) they try to become one, which rather misses the point (as if Adam Kadmon had been a physical hermaphrodite).Replies: @Bardon Kaldian
Since I regard these ideas as essentially correct (in some forms) and a necessary corrective to the realism and materialism of the past 500 years, I'm a bit torn.
It could be that the craziness we are seeing today is a prelude to the healthy move away from realism and materialism that our culture needs.
If it stays where it is now, though, a kind of hybrid materialist-reductionist version of mysticism and Gnosticism that makes a mockery of both, that would be disastrous.
But I doubt it will.
Implications of Climate Change for the U.S. Army:
https://climateandsecurity.files.wordpress.com/2019/07/implications-of-climate-change-for-us-army_army-war-college_2019.pdf
In Western milieu, it is best described in the Corpus Hermeticum, 1st C AD, when androgynous & eternally aware Anthropos falls from the world of Mind/Nous into this world of sleep & sexuality. Other than that, this story is retold in virtually all high Perennialist doctrines, east & west (Greece, China, India, Tibet, Christian Gnosticism, Hermetism, variants of Kabbalah, Sufism, ..). Basically, it is the fall of the Divine Man, containing all sexual attributes & transcending them, into this empirical, sexualized world of birth & death (from plants to humans).
Transsexuals are a miserable cartoon of this myth: they remain in the world of sleep & sex; they don't transcend sexual attraction by absorbing both sexual attributes & leaving them at lower levels (on the contrary, they're sex-crazed); they're, well- freaks, not supposedly liberated divine beings.
For those interested in the topic:
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I’m not sure this is true. Have you ever seen one of these aggressive autogynephilic trannies actually talk about getting laid?
Be as it may, this all is a cartoon of Gnostic myths & practices, East & West. In all of these traditions (for instance, Tantric yoga, Western alchemical sexual tradition,..) the goal is to transcend the state of normal sexual polarization & to attain, while still in this body, the state of divine transcendence when a transformed individual will be liberated from sexual urges & constrictions. So, in effect, the goal is deification, not bisexualization or transsexualization. The way to attain this end may be either ascetic or sacred sexual practice (left & right hand paths). No one thinks that a person will change their biological body & its attributes; nor that one will become sexually active with different sex than before. In wilder areas of imagination, the goal is attainment of supra-physical alchemical "body", but this field belongs more to folksy myths than to serious spiritual practice.
Ancient Gnostics, East & West, craved for liberation from this mundane existence into the supposedly supra-mundane divine life; transsexuals, on the other hand, just want to switch from one variant of sexual identity to another, or to a confusing mixture of both. These are completely divergent aims.
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In Western milieu, it is best described in the Corpus Hermeticum, 1st C AD, when androgynous & eternally aware Anthropos falls from the world of Mind/Nous into this world of sleep & sexuality. Other than that, this story is retold in virtually all high Perennialist doctrines, east & west (Greece, China, India, Tibet, Christian Gnosticism, Hermetism, variants of Kabbalah, Sufism, ..). Basically, it is the fall of the Divine Man, containing all sexual attributes & transcending them, into this empirical, sexualized world of birth & death (from plants to humans).
Transsexuals are a miserable cartoon of this myth: they remain in the world of sleep & sex; they don't transcend sexual attraction by absorbing both sexual attributes & leaving them at lower levels (on the contrary, they're sex-crazed); they're, well- freaks, not supposedly liberated divine beings.
For those interested in the topic:
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No such thing. Might as well invent a ‘Christian devil worship’.
Also, everything you said is completely wrong.
One sees people arguing all the time that such and such an idea set is bad because it leads to or stems from Gnosticism. But it's a silly way to argue because a better way to make your point is simply to rephrase in a better-understood context. It's like those people who go around correcting people for using the phrase "begging the question" wrong. The language has morphed so that begging the question is now just a fancy way of saying raising the question. If you want to use the original idea it once denoted, just rephrase so people know what you mean.Replies: @anonymous coward
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They were rightly persecuted by the Helleno-Roman authorities and mainline Christianoi.
The prevalence of transgenderism in culturally conservative countries like many Muslim countries and places like Thailand makes me think that transgenderism must be the “old world” answer to homosexuality. This modern idea of homosexuality, ie two big, straight-looking men living together seems to be a completely modern idea that has only emerged in the last 100 years at most.
Also I suspect homosexuality and transgenderism became a lot less common in the West when monogamy became the norm, whereas transgenderism still remains common in many non-Western societies because monogamy never really did become the norm, so you end up with men with harems and a lot of men who are not likely to ever be with a woman, which inevitably leads to things like homosexuality and transgenderism.
I wonder if homosexuality and trangenderism is increasing in Western society because the position of monogamy is weakening and the West is going back to the old ways of polygamy and harems.
I also suspect that the now “multicultural” societies of the West are helping this process along as many Western countries now have large populations of people from places where monogamy was never the default and this sort of thing was always common.
That’s an interesting idea, important if true. Are you referring to the West, or making a universal claim? Can you provide supporting cites?
> The prevalence of transgenderism in culturally conservative countries like many Muslim countries and places like Thailand makes me think that transgenderism must be the “old world” answer to homosexuality... I wonder if homosexuality and trangenderism is increasing in Western society because the position of monogamy is weakening and the West is going back to the old ways of polygamy and harems.
This seems wrong. Does “prevalence” mean “general acceptance of a rare (low single digit %) practice” (Thai, Filipino ‘ladyboys’)? Or “presence of a seemingly-very-rare and forbidden practice that I think must be common” (Muslim countries)? Ex-US, is there any GSS-Type evidence to support a correlation between transgender and polygamy/harems? I’m not aware of any.Replies: @Ash Williams
By analogy, then, the stress of modern life could be directly responsible for the transgenders in industrialized societies. Remember that most contemporary industrial societies are mis-allocating enough resources to lose industrialization, and that this seems to be motivated by a hatred of both industry and rational thought by "internal barbarians", who seem to be perhaps 20% (to one significant digit accuracy) [1,2] of European descended. The "internal barbarians" would be the source of transgenders, which seems to fit what's reported.
The basic problem seems to be that industrial society doesn't fit all that well with H. Sapiens, and nobody knows what to do about that [3]. "A failure in philosophy", as Bloom said [4].
Counterinsurgency
1] https://brandongaille.com/24-interesting-republican-vs-democrat-demographics/
" Democratic supporters accounted for 35% of the electorate."
2] https://news.gallup.com/poll/160373/democrats-racially-diverse-republicans-mostly-white.aspx
" Non-Hispanic whites accounted for 89% of Republican self-identifiers nationwide in 2012, while accounting for 70% of independents and 60% of Democrats. "
3] R.A. Lafferty, in _The Reefs of Earth_, gave this as the table of contents back in the 1960s?
"To slay the folks and cleanse the land
And leave the world a Reeking Roastie:
High Purpose of the Gallant Band
And six were Kids, and one a Ghostie.
A child's a monster still uncurled,
The world's a trap, and none can quit it;
The strife Dulanty with the world,
Was mostly that they didn't fit it."
which is a fair description of humanity in general when "the world" is considered to be industrialization.
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/492774.The_Reefs_of_Earth
It's still a good description of coming of age in an industrial country.
4] _Closing of the American Mind_
The gaiest society ever existed was ancient Greece where 80% of males had homo experience.Lots of greek notables like Plato, Achilles, Alexander.. were gay/bisexuals. When Jackie Kennedy married that greek shipping tycoon Onassis, people teased Jackie loved 'greek style'.
Homosexuality has a number of causes:
--A small %(no more than 0.5 to 1.0 % IMO) are genetics or biologically innate,
--Circumstantial, like all male crew on board a ship or single gender monastery or all male jail or all male army; ever heard of the Sacred Band of Thebes? One of causes of ancient greek queerdom was that many of their city states were highly militaried.
--Cultural, like ancient Greece or present day (south?)Afganistan.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-south-asia-11217772
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bacha_bazi
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However you're not entirely wrong that it seems homosexuality has become an evangelical religion(I had elaborated this theme here before at other threads)
Ancient pre-Augustine Christians congregated in 'underground' churches and modern pre-Obama US homos congregated in public toilets.Replies: @Lin
(a) resorting to one or more forms of homosexual activity (while making no pretense of being other than male)
and,
(b) impersonating and trying to pass themselves off as a woman, presumably, in order to then have an easier time bedding one or more of the following: actual women; actual men (but as a "woman", so allowing a cover of "no homo"); other trans-freaks of one variety or another
2.) When such formerly exclusively heterosexual men do resort to homosexuality, is it that the need for a sexual outlet causes them to suddenly find erotic appeal in another man? Or does the need merely eclipse the lack of interest and likely even disgust and revulsion that is felt (or at least up to that point had been felt) at the thought of carnal intimacy with another male? If the latter, then one would presume that, at least often, while engaging with the other man, he is imagined to be a woman.Concerning (a), it might be useful to look to a widely-referenced phenomenon that is assumed to be an example of situational homosexuality: homosexual behavior in prisons. (With the caveat that extrapolating from incarcerated populations to general ones has obvious limitations.) Of the total number of incarcerated men whose sexual proclivities and behavior prior to being incarcerated were exclusively heterosexual, how many, once incarcerated and finding themselves without the availability of a female to provide sexual gratification, resort to seeking it from among their fellow incarcerated males? Or perhaps the better question would be: how many such men at least would, given the opportunity, resort to such behavior. (*With the possible exception of finding erotic appeal in boys, as distinct from men.)
It depends on many factors, for instance whether they’re pre-op or post-op. Some are sexually active with their new sex identity (new quasi-heterosexuals); some with their old or both; others are, mostly, solitary narcissists where sexual identity, and not activity, is central.
Be as it may, this all is a cartoon of Gnostic myths & practices, East & West. In all of these traditions (for instance, Tantric yoga, Western alchemical sexual tradition,..) the goal is to transcend the state of normal sexual polarization & to attain, while still in this body, the state of divine transcendence when a transformed individual will be liberated from sexual urges & constrictions. So, in effect, the goal is deification, not bisexualization or transsexualization. The way to attain this end may be either ascetic or sacred sexual practice (left & right hand paths). No one thinks that a person will change their biological body & its attributes; nor that one will become sexually active with different sex than before. In wilder areas of imagination, the goal is attainment of supra-physical alchemical “body”, but this field belongs more to folksy myths than to serious spiritual practice.
Ancient Gnostics, East & West, craved for liberation from this mundane existence into the supposedly supra-mundane divine life; transsexuals, on the other hand, just want to switch from one variant of sexual identity to another, or to a confusing mixture of both. These are completely divergent aims.
Also, everything you said is completely wrong.Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease, @Bardon Kaldian, @Ash Williams, @Lars Porsena
In the present era, Gnosticism is such a dead letter, both spiritually and philosophically, that there’s little profit in debating what it is or it isn’t. It’s a matter for people who study the archaeology of defunct ideas. It’s a little like quarreling over what the “true” White Lotus Rebellion philosophy “really” was.
One sees people arguing all the time that such and such an idea set is bad because it leads to or stems from Gnosticism. But it’s a silly way to argue because a better way to make your point is simply to rephrase in a better-understood context. It’s like those people who go around correcting people for using the phrase “begging the question” wrong. The language has morphed so that begging the question is now just a fancy way of saying raising the question. If you want to use the original idea it once denoted, just rephrase so people know what you mean.
Gnosticism is a religious philosophy with three major points in its creed:
a) The 'spirit' is something else entirely than the 'body'; there is a 'soul' quite entirely separate from the meat robot it inhabits.
b) The material universe (including the said meat robot) are by nature evil.
c) The 'soul' can escape the evil material world by progress and wisdom and knowledge.
Gnosticism over the centuries has had many names and wore many skin coats. In the past they wore a 'Christian' skin coat. Yesterday it was a 'Marxist' skin coat, today they proclaim 'science' and 'justice'.
It is no matter, because whatever they use for camouflage, their creed and actions always stay the same. Throughout the centuries, Gnosticism has always been the dominant mode of thought in Western Europe.
It is also explicitly anti-Christian (skin coat notwithstanding), because those three points are just Satanism by another name. ("...then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil".)
It has been my observation that more and more of the young White men I see today are, in fact, little sissies. I have come to suspect an environmental cause. Fluoride in the water, living inside the magnetic field of modern housing, too many new carpet fumes, multivitamins for women better enabling them to overcome prenatal testosterone? I don’t know. But something’s going on… Everywhere is freaks and hairies, dykes and fairies.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=PP5XRxFgRlY
Also I suspect homosexuality and transgenderism became a lot less common in the West when monogamy became the norm, whereas transgenderism still remains common in many non-Western societies because monogamy never really did become the norm, so you end up with men with harems and a lot of men who are not likely to ever be with a woman, which inevitably leads to things like homosexuality and transgenderism.
I wonder if homosexuality and trangenderism is increasing in Western society because the position of monogamy is weakening and the West is going back to the old ways of polygamy and harems.
I also suspect that the now "multicultural" societies of the West are helping this process along as many Western countries now have large populations of people from places where monogamy was never the default and this sort of thing was always common.Replies: @Menschmaschine, @ic1000, @Counterinsurgency, @Lin, @James J. O'Meara, @Dissident
You might be onto something here – note the “treatment” of homosexuality by gender reassignment surgery in Iran.
Also, everything you said is completely wrong.Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease, @Bardon Kaldian, @Ash Williams, @Lars Porsena
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Wouldn’t an embryologist say that the genitalia start out the same in the womb? Maybe those ancient gnostics did some dissecting or looked at miscarriages and noticed that before differentiation little boy and girl fetuses look the same. Could this have been the origin of this whole, crazy idea?
Also I suspect homosexuality and transgenderism became a lot less common in the West when monogamy became the norm, whereas transgenderism still remains common in many non-Western societies because monogamy never really did become the norm, so you end up with men with harems and a lot of men who are not likely to ever be with a woman, which inevitably leads to things like homosexuality and transgenderism.
I wonder if homosexuality and trangenderism is increasing in Western society because the position of monogamy is weakening and the West is going back to the old ways of polygamy and harems.
I also suspect that the now "multicultural" societies of the West are helping this process along as many Western countries now have large populations of people from places where monogamy was never the default and this sort of thing was always common.Replies: @Menschmaschine, @ic1000, @Counterinsurgency, @Lin, @James J. O'Meara, @Dissident
> [The] modern idea of homosexuality, ie two big, straight-looking men living together seems to be a completely modern idea that has only emerged in the last 100 years at most.
That’s an interesting idea, important if true. Are you referring to the West, or making a universal claim? Can you provide supporting cites?
> The prevalence of transgenderism in culturally conservative countries like many Muslim countries and places like Thailand makes me think that transgenderism must be the “old world” answer to homosexuality… I wonder if homosexuality and trangenderism is increasing in Western society because the position of monogamy is weakening and the West is going back to the old ways of polygamy and harems.
This seems wrong. Does “prevalence” mean “general acceptance of a rare (low single digit %) practice” (Thai, Filipino ‘ladyboys’)? Or “presence of a seemingly-very-rare and forbidden practice that I think must be common” (Muslim countries)? Ex-US, is there any GSS-Type evidence to support a correlation between transgender and polygamy/harems? I’m not aware of any.
https://www.nature.com/articles/news050117-9
That's why you get a lot more straight men dressing up as women.
A lot of the freakier "transgendered" are trauma victims (sexual, Munchhausen's, etc.) being encouraged by sociopaths to mutilate themselves in order to gain higher social status.
Eh… maybe.
But today transgenderism is merely being used as crude anti-bourgeois agitprop by the neo-Marxist left.
Also, everything you said is completely wrong.Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease, @Bardon Kaldian, @Ash Williams, @Lars Porsena
The US gov violates all Ten Commandments on a regular basis, and it’s defacto worshiped by millions of “Christians” (along with millions more non-xtians), so…
What a super-persuasive argument! I’m totally convinced. Great Job. Your work is done here, you can now go to some other website and enlighten them with your wisdom! They’ll be really appreciative. Thanks again!
That’s an interesting idea, important if true. Are you referring to the West, or making a universal claim? Can you provide supporting cites?
> The prevalence of transgenderism in culturally conservative countries like many Muslim countries and places like Thailand makes me think that transgenderism must be the “old world” answer to homosexuality... I wonder if homosexuality and trangenderism is increasing in Western society because the position of monogamy is weakening and the West is going back to the old ways of polygamy and harems.
This seems wrong. Does “prevalence” mean “general acceptance of a rare (low single digit %) practice” (Thai, Filipino ‘ladyboys’)? Or “presence of a seemingly-very-rare and forbidden practice that I think must be common” (Muslim countries)? Ex-US, is there any GSS-Type evidence to support a correlation between transgender and polygamy/harems? I’m not aware of any.Replies: @Ash Williams
“Transgenderism” is sexual mimicry. It’s a yugely successful reproductive strategy used by species as different from humans as cephalopods.
https://www.nature.com/articles/news050117-9
That’s why you get a lot more straight men dressing up as women.
A lot of the freakier “transgendered” are trauma victims (sexual, Munchhausen’s, etc.) being encouraged by sociopaths to mutilate themselves in order to gain higher social status.
they can’t transcend the desire. Dating apps have noted no one of any orientation actually wants to date them. But they are stuck with their lust.
Also, everything you said is completely wrong.Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease, @Bardon Kaldian, @Ash Williams, @Lars Porsena
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catharism
The successors of the Cathars eventually succeeded, which is why we are now in the mess that we are in.
In Western milieu, it is best described in the Corpus Hermeticum, 1st C AD, when androgynous & eternally aware Anthropos falls from the world of Mind/Nous into this world of sleep & sexuality. Other than that, this story is retold in virtually all high Perennialist doctrines, east & west (Greece, China, India, Tibet, Christian Gnosticism, Hermetism, variants of Kabbalah, Sufism, ..). Basically, it is the fall of the Divine Man, containing all sexual attributes & transcending them, into this empirical, sexualized world of birth & death (from plants to humans).
Transsexuals are a miserable cartoon of this myth: they remain in the world of sleep & sex; they don't transcend sexual attraction by absorbing both sexual attributes & leaving them at lower levels (on the contrary, they're sex-crazed); they're, well- freaks, not supposedly liberated divine beings.
For those interested in the topic:
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“Needles to say, this supposed being lives supra-physical life (so no sex in “higher spheres”) & his/her “fall” into the world of temporality & matter is a part of the creation-fall myth of origin.”
…and quite neatly in oppositional polarity dovetails w/the Hermeticists’ The Kybalion……our physical plane of existence.. the differentiation of matter into……..duality/polarity. from monad to duad. not as corruption or fall but as divine plan.
i much prefer the Hermeticists positive msg of Creator/ humanity over the more doomer Gnostic version of the psychotic demiurge/yahweh,.
Our modern articles of faith on gender seem to be:
– Men and women are the same, so there is no reason to expect unequal distributions of gender anywhere except in the presence of discrimination
– Men and women are different, which is why we need sufficient gender diversity in all organizations and occupations
– “Men” and “women” are intrinsically different ideal platonic forms, attached to people’s souls entirely at random, with zero correlation to any chromosomal structure or to any anatomical or behavioral phenotypes
If a four-year-old can understand it, why can’t you?
Mr. Sailer:
I know I sound like a junkie, but are you not writing your weekly column at Takimag this week? I mark the days of the week by the Takimag writers and I feel a bit disoriented. 🙂
Thank you.
Also I suspect homosexuality and transgenderism became a lot less common in the West when monogamy became the norm, whereas transgenderism still remains common in many non-Western societies because monogamy never really did become the norm, so you end up with men with harems and a lot of men who are not likely to ever be with a woman, which inevitably leads to things like homosexuality and transgenderism.
I wonder if homosexuality and trangenderism is increasing in Western society because the position of monogamy is weakening and the West is going back to the old ways of polygamy and harems.
I also suspect that the now "multicultural" societies of the West are helping this process along as many Western countries now have large populations of people from places where monogamy was never the default and this sort of thing was always common.Replies: @Menschmaschine, @ic1000, @Counterinsurgency, @Lin, @James J. O'Meara, @Dissident
I’ve read that the American Plains amerinds had extensive and difficult tests for manhood (it’s not uncommon in surviving Neolithic societies, I understand). They also offered an easy out for those male humans who did not want to become warriors: just dress like a woman, do woman’s work, and bingo, no test. Sounds like the Plain Indians were a bit short on labor, and a few men, otherwise useless, could come in handy to do the heavy lifting. Warriors didn’t do women’s work, and if they tried it than they’d be exhausted when a raid or meeting encounter happened and they, together with the women present, would be lost to the tribe.
By analogy, then, the stress of modern life could be directly responsible for the transgenders in industrialized societies. Remember that most contemporary industrial societies are mis-allocating enough resources to lose industrialization, and that this seems to be motivated by a hatred of both industry and rational thought by “internal barbarians”, who seem to be perhaps 20% (to one significant digit accuracy) [1,2] of European descended. The “internal barbarians” would be the source of transgenders, which seems to fit what’s reported.
The basic problem seems to be that industrial society doesn’t fit all that well with H. Sapiens, and nobody knows what to do about that [3]. “A failure in philosophy”, as Bloom said [4].
Counterinsurgency
1] https://brandongaille.com/24-interesting-republican-vs-democrat-demographics/
” Democratic supporters accounted for 35% of the electorate.”
2] https://news.gallup.com/poll/160373/democrats-racially-diverse-republicans-mostly-white.aspx
” Non-Hispanic whites accounted for 89% of Republican self-identifiers nationwide in 2012, while accounting for 70% of independents and 60% of Democrats. ”
3] R.A. Lafferty, in _The Reefs of Earth_, gave this as the table of contents back in the 1960s?
“To slay the folks and cleanse the land
And leave the world a Reeking Roastie:
High Purpose of the Gallant Band
And six were Kids, and one a Ghostie.
A child’s a monster still uncurled,
The world’s a trap, and none can quit it;
The strife Dulanty with the world,
Was mostly that they didn’t fit it.”
which is a fair description of humanity in general when “the world” is considered to be industrialization.
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/492774.The_Reefs_of_Earth
It’s still a good description of coming of age in an industrial country.
4] _Closing of the American Mind_
You could well say that the New Age movement is a modern pagan gnostic revival, with its dualism and belief that man can save himself through meditation and knowledge. It’s also not unlike luciferian masonic doctrines, where the Baphomet is portrayed as a hermaphrodite.
Ah, but some women don’t need to take “the pill” (color irrelevant) to avoid pregnancy. Will the Wachowskis (and similar) give new meaning to MENopause?
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Clown world? Or is this the real-life version of Mike Judge’s satirical movie Idiocracy?
FWIW, because (R)eality is incomprehensibly complex, people use a gross oversimplification of it, a “mental map,” to navigate their lives. The map, obviously, is not the territory; the degree to which it conforms to underlying (R)eality defines sanity (collective or individual.)
The tranny thing strikes me as hewing to the Heavens Gate level of collective and individual sanity.
Bardon said sex, not coitus. The statement holds. (Not #3, though. Holding that’s gross.)
In Western milieu, it is best described in the Corpus Hermeticum, 1st C AD, when androgynous & eternally aware Anthropos falls from the world of Mind/Nous into this world of sleep & sexuality. Other than that, this story is retold in virtually all high Perennialist doctrines, east & west (Greece, China, India, Tibet, Christian Gnosticism, Hermetism, variants of Kabbalah, Sufism, ..). Basically, it is the fall of the Divine Man, containing all sexual attributes & transcending them, into this empirical, sexualized world of birth & death (from plants to humans).
Transsexuals are a miserable cartoon of this myth: they remain in the world of sleep & sex; they don't transcend sexual attraction by absorbing both sexual attributes & leaving them at lower levels (on the contrary, they're sex-crazed); they're, well- freaks, not supposedly liberated divine beings.
For those interested in the topic:
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Excellent summary and references!
I wrote about this kind of “cartoon” gnosticism in “Accommodate This!
Bruce Jenner & the Hermetic Rebis” here: https://www.counter-currents.com/2015/06/accommodate-this/, reprinted in my amazon-banned book available here at unz.com
The serial killers in Thomas Harris’ first two Hannibal books are example of cartoon gnosticism. The Tooth Fairy tattoos Blake’s Red Dragon on his back, and later eats a Blake manuscript. Buffalo Bill, of course, is trying to “make a woman suit” for himself. They both try to assimilate metaphysical ideas the only way they know how, physically. Rather than “absorbing the power of the female” (Evola) they try to become one, which rather misses the point (as if Adam Kadmon had been a physical hermaphrodite).
Also I suspect homosexuality and transgenderism became a lot less common in the West when monogamy became the norm, whereas transgenderism still remains common in many non-Western societies because monogamy never really did become the norm, so you end up with men with harems and a lot of men who are not likely to ever be with a woman, which inevitably leads to things like homosexuality and transgenderism.
I wonder if homosexuality and trangenderism is increasing in Western society because the position of monogamy is weakening and the West is going back to the old ways of polygamy and harems.
I also suspect that the now "multicultural" societies of the West are helping this process along as many Western countries now have large populations of people from places where monogamy was never the default and this sort of thing was always common.Replies: @Menschmaschine, @ic1000, @Counterinsurgency, @Lin, @James J. O'Meara, @Dissident
You’re mostly wrong Period.
The gaiest society ever existed was ancient Greece where 80% of males had homo experience.Lots of greek notables like Plato, Achilles, Alexander.. were gay/bisexuals. When Jackie Kennedy married that greek shipping tycoon Onassis, people teased Jackie loved ‘greek style’.
Homosexuality has a number of causes:
–A small %(no more than 0.5 to 1.0 % IMO) are genetics or biologically innate,
–Circumstantial, like all male crew on board a ship or single gender monastery or all male jail or all male army; ever heard of the Sacred Band of Thebes? One of causes of ancient greek queerdom was that many of their city states were highly militaried.
–Cultural, like ancient Greece or present day (south?)Afganistan.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-south-asia-11217772
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bacha_bazi
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However you’re not entirely wrong that it seems homosexuality has become an evangelical religion(I had elaborated this theme here before at other threads)
Ancient pre-Augustine Christians congregated in ‘underground’ churches and modern pre-Obama US homos congregated in public toilets.
--Lawrence of Arabia syndrome.
After the prostate gland was stimulated the first time,like in the case of T.E. Lawrence gang banged by the turks, certain biochemical changes were imparted to the male body and thereafter yearned for more. Like the first dose of narcotic turned a person into an addict.Replies: @anon
Yes, we need to insist that our administrative state and deep state apparatchiks be eunuchs, just like the good old Byzantine days.
Also I suspect homosexuality and transgenderism became a lot less common in the West when monogamy became the norm, whereas transgenderism still remains common in many non-Western societies because monogamy never really did become the norm, so you end up with men with harems and a lot of men who are not likely to ever be with a woman, which inevitably leads to things like homosexuality and transgenderism.
I wonder if homosexuality and trangenderism is increasing in Western society because the position of monogamy is weakening and the West is going back to the old ways of polygamy and harems.
I also suspect that the now "multicultural" societies of the West are helping this process along as many Western countries now have large populations of people from places where monogamy was never the default and this sort of thing was always common.Replies: @Menschmaschine, @ic1000, @Counterinsurgency, @Lin, @James J. O'Meara, @Dissident
James Neil’s book on Same Sex Relations in Human Culture makes that point. Homosexuality is a safety valve, as it were, in traditional societies (are you listening, “traditionalists”?) where women are monopolized by a few alphas.
MOREOVER, even in societies that do practice monogamy, girls and women are sequestered until married off. Think of Dante and Beatrice, or Michael Corleone hiding out in Sicily.
Boys are expected to turn their attentions to each other, until old enough to be married. John Bradley’s Behind the Veil of Vice documents this is still-existing Arab cultures (i.e., those not warped by colonialist Victorianism or globalist “liberation” cults).
So much for the “germ theory” and the “gay gene.”
The gaiest society ever existed was ancient Greece where 80% of males had homo experience.Lots of greek notables like Plato, Achilles, Alexander.. were gay/bisexuals. When Jackie Kennedy married that greek shipping tycoon Onassis, people teased Jackie loved 'greek style'.
Homosexuality has a number of causes:
--A small %(no more than 0.5 to 1.0 % IMO) are genetics or biologically innate,
--Circumstantial, like all male crew on board a ship or single gender monastery or all male jail or all male army; ever heard of the Sacred Band of Thebes? One of causes of ancient greek queerdom was that many of their city states were highly militaried.
--Cultural, like ancient Greece or present day (south?)Afganistan.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-south-asia-11217772
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bacha_bazi
……..
However you're not entirely wrong that it seems homosexuality has become an evangelical religion(I had elaborated this theme here before at other threads)
Ancient pre-Augustine Christians congregated in 'underground' churches and modern pre-Obama US homos congregated in public toilets.Replies: @Lin
Another(definitely the major one) cause of homosexuality:
–Lawrence of Arabia syndrome.
After the prostate gland was stimulated the first time,like in the case of T.E. Lawrence gang banged by the turks, certain biochemical changes were imparted to the male body and thereafter yearned for more. Like the first dose of narcotic turned a person into an addict.
LOL!Replies: @Lin
I think the Wachowskis are just really smart and that helped them produce the Matrix as highly successful film, stylish like nothing before it to move the goalposts of Hollywood. For me, it was still at bottom an action film and the success of John Wick which took the action from the Matrix and with the aid of modern special effects made it look like it was possible in the real world for an extraordinarily capable protagonist demonstrates the genius of the Ws. Their film before the Matrix, Bound, is supposed to be film noir but worked because it showed a couple of hot and horny lesbians with high production values. The red pill / Gnostic / astral body stuff is a mere McGuffin.
Autism is a disease of high intelligence (“A suite of recent studies has reported positive genetic correlations between autism risk and measures of mental ability. These findings indicate that alleles for autism overlap broadly with alleles for high intelligence”). Associative mating in institutions of higher learning and workplaces since the sixties has created a highly intelligent self-selective sorting New Upper Class, who are Asperger’s -ish
The other type of trans
Pose star Indya Moore: Trans women’s penises are biologically female
He is lucky a six inch spike heel (or an eight inch whatever) was not used on him.
In Western milieu, it is best described in the Corpus Hermeticum, 1st C AD, when androgynous & eternally aware Anthropos falls from the world of Mind/Nous into this world of sleep & sexuality. Other than that, this story is retold in virtually all high Perennialist doctrines, east & west (Greece, China, India, Tibet, Christian Gnosticism, Hermetism, variants of Kabbalah, Sufism, ..). Basically, it is the fall of the Divine Man, containing all sexual attributes & transcending them, into this empirical, sexualized world of birth & death (from plants to humans).
Transsexuals are a miserable cartoon of this myth: they remain in the world of sleep & sex; they don't transcend sexual attraction by absorbing both sexual attributes & leaving them at lower levels (on the contrary, they're sex-crazed); they're, well- freaks, not supposedly liberated divine beings.
For those interested in the topic:
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Much of what you see today is a caricature of Gnosticism and classic mysticism.
Since I regard these ideas as essentially correct (in some forms) and a necessary corrective to the realism and materialism of the past 500 years, I’m a bit torn.
It could be that the craziness we are seeing today is a prelude to the healthy move away from realism and materialism that our culture needs.
If it stays where it is now, though, a kind of hybrid materialist-reductionist version of mysticism and Gnosticism that makes a mockery of both, that would be disastrous.
But I doubt it will.
Sorry, my typo: Should be
Ancient pre-Constantine Christians congregated in ‘underground’ churches and modern pre-Obama US homos congregated in public toilets.
In Western milieu, it is best described in the Corpus Hermeticum, 1st C AD, when androgynous & eternally aware Anthropos falls from the world of Mind/Nous into this world of sleep & sexuality. Other than that, this story is retold in virtually all high Perennialist doctrines, east & west (Greece, China, India, Tibet, Christian Gnosticism, Hermetism, variants of Kabbalah, Sufism, ..). Basically, it is the fall of the Divine Man, containing all sexual attributes & transcending them, into this empirical, sexualized world of birth & death (from plants to humans).
Transsexuals are a miserable cartoon of this myth: they remain in the world of sleep & sex; they don't transcend sexual attraction by absorbing both sexual attributes & leaving them at lower levels (on the contrary, they're sex-crazed); they're, well- freaks, not supposedly liberated divine beings.
For those interested in the topic:
https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/51TWr48pi7L._SX322_BO1,204,203,200_.jpg
https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/51JD-fJ3dJL._SX317_BO1,204,203,200_.jpg
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That’s the fallacy though. The Heavenly Father sent us His only begotten Son, Jesus Christ, to experience both birth and death in human flesh specifically to refute it through both his teaching and his example, Spirit and Body.
It is the true integration of the Flesh and the Spirit, the Word made Flesh, that is the higher, not the abandonment or idolatry of one or the other.
Having forgotten or traded away our birthright it is no wonder that this particular fallacy is that which now plagues us, as we’re ruled by fools with their heads in the clouds and no sense of the real.
http://gnosis.org/library/valentinus/Brief_Summary_Theology.htm
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From the beginning you have been immortal, and you are children of eternal life. And you wanted death to be allocated to yourselves so that you might spend it and use it up, and that death might die in you and through you. For when you nullify the world and are not yourselves annihilated, you are lord over creation and all corruption.
Valentinus of Alexandria, 180 AD
Not in all traditional societies. Europe and Japan, two societies that have a deep history and tradition of monogamy also happened to be the best at marshaling social energies over the centuries to build the most coherent and advanced societies. Monogamy avoids the problem of retrogressive masses of unmarried and sub-productive males who are not invested in advancing the nationstate.
Trans and The Circus:
Anti-Trump drag queen Pissi Myles sashays into impeachment hearing to ‘cause a ruckus’!!
https://twitter.com/HeidiNBC/status/1194619100372320256/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1194619100372320256&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.advocate.com%2Fnews%2F2019%2F11%2F13%2Fdrag-queen-pissi-myles-crashes-trump-impeachment-inquiry
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/10341187/drag-queen-trump-impeachment-hearing/
This equation is pretty obvious - and correct. Individualism has its existential risks.
Steiner is a somewhat different story than the absolutely utopian (=completely unrealistic/narcissistic = structurally unproductive) Anabaptists in Münster for example.
Steiner managed to get reasonable things done too. It is like Erich Fromm said oftentimes: Don't underestimate narcissism. It can have a very productive side (cf. the Wachowski - eh - siblings).
Here's the absolute frenzy Neo-Gnostic Anabaptism caused 1534/5 ff. in the flourishing (!) German city of Münster https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M%C3%BCnster_rebellion Replies: @Daniel Chieh
Once of your best posts, sir.
T. C. Boyle makes this regressive aspect of sexuality visible in his very insightful LSD-novel Outside Looking In. The quite good review of this novel by James Penner in the LARB points at the rather dangerous side of the - chthonic - energies, which - keep us alive and reproducing, but are not caring (or careful) at all. This is their (and our nature).
PSI posted this comment in the LARB, in which I dived a bit deeper into this subject of sex and metaphysics.
Interesting review. It's true, sexual longing is strong and hard to come to grips with if one does not stand on solid ground, as Albert Hoffmann did (this is the core opposition in the novel - : - Albert Hoffman here, firmly rooted as a Swiss - and Baselean even - chemist - - - and the trippy and loftier Harvard-psychologists and their friends, who indeed fell prey at times to the regressive potential of the chthonic energies the drug is able to set free. I told T. C. Boyle when he presented his novel in the Southern-German city of Konstanz about Hoffmann and his LSD-relation with the eminent and quite conservative German writer Ernst Jünger. The firmly rooted Albert Hoffmann - who, therefore, I'd hold, was more interested in the existential and religious potential of the drug he discovered than the sexually liberating (=physical, instinctive) side of it, did make friends even with the German entomologist and highly decorated warrior (front-Officer in WW I) and diarist, essayist and novelist Ernst Jünger (1895 - 1998).Hoffmann und Jünger took the drug together and did discuss lots of aesthetical and existential and metaphysical aspects of their experience in numerous talks and by exchanging letters over five decades. The quite eh - experienced (Jimi Hendrix) - Jünger, published a book in 1970 about his lifelong drug experiments, called Annäherungen - Drogen und Rausch - : Approximations - Drugs and Ecstasy. When he reached a hundred years, Jünger converted to Catholicism and dies a few years later. He lived in an old house in Wilflingen/ Germany, which was given to him by the Stauffenberg-family: This house is now a very interesting Jünger- and insects (!) - museum. There is a little excerpt from this quite insightful book about Ernst Jünger's numerous personal drug-experiences available in English in: Myths and Symbols. Studies in Honor of Mircea Eliade, eds. Joseph M. Kitagawa and Charles H. Long. Chicago and London: The University of Chicago Press (1969), pp. 327–42.
In Western milieu, it is best described in the Corpus Hermeticum, 1st C AD, when androgynous & eternally aware Anthropos falls from the world of Mind/Nous into this world of sleep & sexuality. Other than that, this story is retold in virtually all high Perennialist doctrines, east & west (Greece, China, India, Tibet, Christian Gnosticism, Hermetism, variants of Kabbalah, Sufism, ..). Basically, it is the fall of the Divine Man, containing all sexual attributes & transcending them, into this empirical, sexualized world of birth & death (from plants to humans).
Transsexuals are a miserable cartoon of this myth: they remain in the world of sleep & sex; they don't transcend sexual attraction by absorbing both sexual attributes & leaving them at lower levels (on the contrary, they're sex-crazed); they're, well- freaks, not supposedly liberated divine beings.
For those interested in the topic:
https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/51TWr48pi7L._SX322_BO1,204,203,200_.jpg
https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/51JD-fJ3dJL._SX317_BO1,204,203,200_.jpg
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I agree, but do you really expect most moderns to do any serious mysticism? Even sex is too much effort, surely, against the fake liquid screens of lustful images that briefly offer silken nepenthe from the cuboid gray of modernity.
All identities are equally precious when we have all been rendered meaningfully worthless.
We know what came before us because of recorded history so everything we do appears to be a parody of the ancients. Maybe lots of peoples liked to destroy the histories of their enemies so they aren’t embarrassed when they repeat the same things.
--Lawrence of Arabia syndrome.
After the prostate gland was stimulated the first time,like in the case of T.E. Lawrence gang banged by the turks, certain biochemical changes were imparted to the male body and thereafter yearned for more. Like the first dose of narcotic turned a person into an addict.Replies: @anon
Lol! Please identify these biochemical changes and the parts of the body that ‘yearned for more’. Be specific – amygdala? Anterior cingular cortex? Hippocampus?
LOL!
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I once heard that there's no such things as ex-crack addict that the 1st dose led to lifetime addiction
AND
I read gay 'deprogramming' doesn't work. Well, does it sound familiar?
There's a quasi religious parallel to it:Replies: @Daniel Chieh
Trans are on the offensive. They may end up like Pickett’s charge, but, as yet- they’re like Manstein in 1940.
https://www.timesofisrael.com/hasidic-rabbi-who-cant-pray-the-girl-away-transitions-to-female-activist/
Hasidic rabbi who can’t ‘pray the girl away’ transitions to female activist
Abby Stein was a mischievous yeshiva boy who had an arranged marriage – and son – in her enclave in Brooklyn. Her newly published book, ‘Becoming Eve,’ details her unusual journey
I hated The Matrix. Now I understand why.
There is a long piece by Deirdre (formerly Donald) McCloskey at Quillette, “Reflections on My Decision to Change Gender” https://quillette.com/2019/11/10/reflections-on-my-decision-to-change-gender/ . The gist is that his wife, children, and grandchildren want nothing to do with him, and that his attempts to date men while presenting as a woman failed https://quillette.com/2019/11/10/reflections-on-my-decision-to-change-gender/ . At least he lived normally for the first 53 years of life and got married and had children. Thanks to the movement he advocates we now mutilate people in their teens and 20s.
‘I had another date, with a guy who played the ponies, and I fantasized about becoming the girlfriend of a race-track man. I could do that. Another was a life coach. As soon as we met for lunch across the street from my place I could tell he didn’t warm to me, though he was insightful and intelligent, as one might expect from his job. My problem was that I always told the men the next day, and they never came back. The life coach replied to my email saying, “Oh, that’s why I didn’t find you attractive.” Well, thanks.
Finally I gave up. My girlfriends remind me that a tall, successful professional woman of a certain age will find it hard to get dates. Basically, impossible. Men are such dopes. Even without mention of The Other Matter. Join the crowd, dearie. I vaguely hoped that someone who Already Knew would fall for me, but it never happened. I had people living with me frequently, because my loft is large and it seems only Christian (or Muslim or Hindu) to share it with people having a hard time, and with a stream of out-of-town visitors. It’s nice to have a full house. I’m not lonely. But no romance.’
LOL!Replies: @Lin
I’m no biologist(my degrees are in other branches of STEM). If sex(including teenage masturbation) is addictive, why not prostate sex? Addiction is biochemical, right?
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I once heard that there’s no such things as ex-crack addict that the 1st dose led to lifetime addiction
AND
I read gay ‘deprogramming’ doesn’t work. Well, does it sound familiar?
There’s a quasi religious parallel to it:
https://climateandsecurity.files.wordpress.com/2019/07/implications-of-climate-change-for-us-army_army-war-college_2019.pdfReplies: @Hypnotoad666
But if the bear speaks English and knows what working in a factory is, maybe he’s not really a bear after all.
Tell me, where is sanity . . .
Has iSteve become a haunt for ex-addicts who revert? Have you considered a rubber room for the duration of the relapse?
One sees people arguing all the time that such and such an idea set is bad because it leads to or stems from Gnosticism. But it's a silly way to argue because a better way to make your point is simply to rephrase in a better-understood context. It's like those people who go around correcting people for using the phrase "begging the question" wrong. The language has morphed so that begging the question is now just a fancy way of saying raising the question. If you want to use the original idea it once denoted, just rephrase so people know what you mean.Replies: @anonymous coward
Exactly and absolutely wrong.
Gnosticism is a religious philosophy with three major points in its creed:
a) The ‘spirit’ is something else entirely than the ‘body’; there is a ‘soul’ quite entirely separate from the meat robot it inhabits.
b) The material universe (including the said meat robot) are by nature evil.
c) The ‘soul’ can escape the evil material world by progress and wisdom and knowledge.
Gnosticism over the centuries has had many names and wore many skin coats. In the past they wore a ‘Christian’ skin coat. Yesterday it was a ‘Marxist’ skin coat, today they proclaim ‘science’ and ‘justice’.
It is no matter, because whatever they use for camouflage, their creed and actions always stay the same. Throughout the centuries, Gnosticism has always been the dominant mode of thought in Western Europe.
It is also explicitly anti-Christian (skin coat notwithstanding), because those three points are just Satanism by another name. (“…then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil“.)
The Cathars were a Gnostic sect that was the first to attempt to turn Western Europe into a ‘post-Christian’ society. Which is why the Church (rightly) cracked down so violently on them.
The successors of the Cathars eventually succeeded, which is why we are now in the mess that we are in.
Disagree, that perfect reciprocity is a modern ideal. The actuality is there is always a power exchange going on with the gayer one taking the female role. I would say the TS is a return to historical norm homosexual who desires to have sex with heterosexual men. Hence TS insistence that they are women even if they have penis. David Dalton writes:
. Up until the opening of the first gay bathhouses in the 1920s saw gay-gay sex begin to become the norm, identifiable homosexuals looked down on having sex with one another. Their main thing was taking the receptive role and servicing apparently straight men. It is important to remember that very many “transgirls” have not had sex change operations.
https://www.unz.com/isteve/telford-rotherham/#comment-2241972
...and quite neatly in oppositional polarity dovetails w/the Hermeticists' The Kybalion......our physical plane of existence.. the differentiation of matter into........duality/polarity. from monad to duad. not as corruption or fall but as divine plan.
i much prefer the Hermeticists positive msg of Creator/ humanity over the more doomer Gnostic version of the psychotic demiurge/yahweh,.Replies: @Bardon Kaldian
Well, Hermetism is life-affirming, similar to Tantricism in the east.
And, you might have mentioned - Kabbalah.
Bruce Jenner & the Hermetic Rebis" here: https://www.counter-currents.com/2015/06/accommodate-this/, reprinted in my amazon-banned book available here at unz.comThe serial killers in Thomas Harris' first two Hannibal books are example of cartoon gnosticism. The Tooth Fairy tattoos Blake's Red Dragon on his back, and later eats a Blake manuscript. Buffalo Bill, of course, is trying to "make a woman suit" for himself. They both try to assimilate metaphysical ideas the only way they know how, physically. Rather than "absorbing the power of the female" (Evola) they try to become one, which rather misses the point (as if Adam Kadmon had been a physical hermaphrodite).Replies: @Bardon Kaldian
They want Eve Kadmon 😉
i agree in so much as the classicist occult teachings concern the Magnum Opus in Man, reconciling the physical w/the metaphysical for spiritual evolution. however, this perversion of concept, the forced Frankenstein reversal of gender in physicality, against Nature... was not instituted nor carried out by those who seek the betterment/evolution of self, and Man toward Deity, regardless of their 'chosen identity or moniker'.
while symbolism has been utilized to shield or occult Great Truths from the profane,
conflation of these two factions is not helpful. by their deeds, know them.
as w/so many such nefarious actors, they cannot create or outright destroy.. their only option is to pervert.
Yet, (some) Gnostic Christians had a different view on that.
http://gnosis.org/library/valentinus/Brief_Summary_Theology.htm
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From the beginning you have been immortal, and you are children of eternal life. And you wanted death to be allocated to yourselves so that you might spend it and use it up, and that death might die in you and through you. For when you nullify the world and are not yourselves annihilated, you are lord over creation and all corruption.
Valentinus of Alexandria, 180 AD
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I once heard that there's no such things as ex-crack addict that the 1st dose led to lifetime addiction
AND
I read gay 'deprogramming' doesn't work. Well, does it sound familiar?
There's a quasi religious parallel to it:Replies: @Daniel Chieh
Cocaine really hijacks the nervous system in a way that I’m pretty sure that stimulation does not. Long-term abuse either chemical or sexual is another story.
T.E. Lawrence, in his autobiographic 'The seven pillars of wisdom' stated that he was ashamed of being gang raped by the turks not because of the humiliation but actually he enjoyed the prostate stimulation/rape. He was a masochist (but it doesn't mean he was innately gay) and was raised in an anti-homo environment. After the war and returned to England, as expected, he switched underground to the other side.
To what extend nerves system has to do with addiction to alcohol and tobacco?Replies: @Daniel Chieh
There’s a commenter here who goes by the handle “TheMediumIsTheMassage” who’s openly gay. He seems to confirm what you argue:
https://www.unz.com/isteve/telford-rotherham/#comment-2241972
J. O’Meara: “The Caitlyn Jenner story was orchestrated to bring specific concepts to the forefront, notably the complete reversal of gender roles. Although the elite’s occult teaching are about complete equilibrium, they want the masses to be completely out of balance. That’s how you keep them confused and malleable.[21]”
i agree in so much as the classicist occult teachings concern the Magnum Opus in Man, reconciling the physical w/the metaphysical for spiritual evolution. however, this perversion of concept, the forced Frankenstein reversal of gender in physicality, against Nature… was not instituted nor carried out by those who seek the betterment/evolution of self, and Man toward Deity, regardless of their ‘chosen identity or moniker’.
while symbolism has been utilized to shield or occult Great Truths from the profane,
conflation of these two factions is not helpful. by their deeds, know them.
as w/so many such nefarious actors, they cannot create or outright destroy.. their only option is to pervert.
As I said I’m no biologist but I read that a number of porn stars were quite ‘normal’ or average people; then they were gang raped and then switched their career out of their free will and became porn stars.
T.E. Lawrence, in his autobiographic ‘The seven pillars of wisdom’ stated that he was ashamed of being gang raped by the turks not because of the humiliation but actually he enjoyed the prostate stimulation/rape. He was a masochist (but it doesn’t mean he was innately gay) and was raised in an anti-homo environment. After the war and returned to England, as expected, he switched underground to the other side.
Nerves system is electrolytic and I doubt it could be ‘hijacked’ without some biochemical/hormonal changes triggered by ‘stimulation’.
To what extend nerves system has to do with addiction to alcohol and tobacco?
Alcohol uses a different mechanism, almost opposite. I'm not familiar with nicotine's mechanism of action, but ultimately all addictions have something to do with "neurons", of course, because the brain has, well, significant contribution to our mental activity and motivations :P
Also I suspect homosexuality and transgenderism became a lot less common in the West when monogamy became the norm, whereas transgenderism still remains common in many non-Western societies because monogamy never really did become the norm, so you end up with men with harems and a lot of men who are not likely to ever be with a woman, which inevitably leads to things like homosexuality and transgenderism.
I wonder if homosexuality and trangenderism is increasing in Western society because the position of monogamy is weakening and the West is going back to the old ways of polygamy and harems.
I also suspect that the now "multicultural" societies of the West are helping this process along as many Western countries now have large populations of people from places where monogamy was never the default and this sort of thing was always common.Replies: @Menschmaschine, @ic1000, @Counterinsurgency, @Lin, @James J. O'Meara, @Dissident
Not so simple. There a number of questions that must be answered, starting with the following.
1.) Of the total number of men who, as long as females are available to them, remain exclusively heterosexual in both behavior as well as desire*, how many would, absent such availability, find either of the options that you enumerated to be preferable to celibacy? Those options, specifically, being:
(a) resorting to one or more forms of homosexual activity (while making no pretense of being other than male)
and,
(b) impersonating and trying to pass themselves off as a woman, presumably, in order to then have an easier time bedding one or more of the following: actual women; actual men (but as a “woman”, so allowing a cover of “no homo”); other trans-freaks of one variety or another
2.) When such formerly exclusively heterosexual men do resort to homosexuality, is it that the need for a sexual outlet causes them to suddenly find erotic appeal in another man? Or does the need merely eclipse the lack of interest and likely even disgust and revulsion that is felt (or at least up to that point had been felt) at the thought of carnal intimacy with another male? If the latter, then one would presume that, at least often, while engaging with the other man, he is imagined to be a woman.
Concerning (a), it might be useful to look to a widely-referenced phenomenon that is assumed to be an example of situational homosexuality: homosexual behavior in prisons. (With the caveat that extrapolating from incarcerated populations to general ones has obvious limitations.) Of the total number of incarcerated men whose sexual proclivities and behavior prior to being incarcerated were exclusively heterosexual, how many, once incarcerated and finding themselves without the availability of a female to provide sexual gratification, resort to seeking it from among their fellow incarcerated males? Or perhaps the better question would be: how many such men at least would, given the opportunity, resort to such behavior.
(*With the possible exception of finding erotic appeal in boys, as distinct from men.)
Haha. All you guys are “redpill bluepill” all the time. And look what happen to your he-roes who made the movie. Hahahaha-ha.
Yes.
And, you might have mentioned – Kabbalah.
Thank you!
When I wrote this comment, I all of sudden saw the elastic skeleton of a soccer-ball – in a shimmering light green tone right there, in front of my forehead.
Things like transgenderism are internally connected with narcissism – and regression.
Sex deep down is related to such states of mind. Freud got this too. I think that’s why he was so happy in his letter-exchange and overall – intellectual – relationship with the absolutely fabulous analyst and theorist and muse of Rainer Maria Rilke, etc. Ruth Andreas-Salomé. He knew not only about the restrictions but also about the benefits of – – – sublimation.
T. C. Boyle makes this regressive aspect of sexuality visible in his very insightful LSD-novel Outside Looking In. The quite good review of this novel by James Penner in the LARB points at the rather dangerous side of the – chthonic – energies, which – keep us alive and reproducing, but are not caring (or careful) at all. This is their (and our nature).
PS
I posted this comment in the LARB, in which I dived a bit deeper into this subject of sex and metaphysics.
Interesting review. It’s true, sexual longing is strong and hard to come to grips with if one does not stand on solid ground, as Albert Hoffmann did (this is the core opposition in the novel – : – Albert Hoffman here, firmly rooted as a Swiss – and Baselean even – chemist – – – and the trippy and loftier Harvard-psychologists and their friends, who indeed fell prey at times to the regressive potential of the chthonic energies the drug is able to set free. I told T. C. Boyle when he presented his novel in the Southern-German city of Konstanz about Hoffmann and his LSD-relation with the eminent and quite conservative German writer Ernst Jünger. The firmly rooted Albert Hoffmann – who, therefore, I’d hold, was more interested in the existential and religious potential of the drug he discovered than the sexually liberating (=physical, instinctive) side of it, did make friends even with the German entomologist and highly decorated warrior (front-Officer in WW I) and diarist, essayist and novelist Ernst Jünger (1895 – 1998).Hoffmann und Jünger took the drug together and did discuss lots of aesthetical and existential and metaphysical aspects of their experience in numerous talks and by exchanging letters over five decades. The quite eh – experienced (Jimi Hendrix) – Jünger, published a book in 1970 about his lifelong drug experiments, called Annäherungen – Drogen und Rausch – : Approximations – Drugs and Ecstasy. When he reached a hundred years, Jünger converted to Catholicism and dies a few years later. He lived in an old house in Wilflingen/ Germany, which was given to him by the Stauffenberg-family: This house is now a very interesting Jünger- and insects (!) – museum. There is a little excerpt from this quite insightful book about Ernst Jünger’s numerous personal drug-experiences available in English in: Myths and Symbols. Studies in Honor of Mircea Eliade, eds. Joseph M. Kitagawa and Charles H. Long. Chicago and London: The University of Chicago Press (1969), pp. 327–42.
Taki’s Magazine has transitioned to a new look:
By coincidence, so has The American Conservative:
To what extend nerves system has to do with addiction to alcohol and tobacco?Replies: @Daniel Chieh
The electrolytic nature of it really doesn’t matter, its more specifically the nature of dopamine reuptake blockers which can cause substantial damage in some people and causes meaningful disruptions in the normal function of the brain(in a positive way, initially, which adds to its addictive factor). Amphetamines do indeed cause that biochemical change as the body attempts to readjust the receptors.
Alcohol uses a different mechanism, almost opposite. I’m not familiar with nicotine’s mechanism of action, but ultimately all addictions have something to do with “neurons”, of course, because the brain has, well, significant contribution to our mental activity and motivations 😛