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From Quartz:
Jenny Anderson
June 15, 2017
Senior House, a dorm beloved by many underrepresented minority groups at MIT, has been described many ways: free-wheeling, experimental, diverse, inclusive—and, in the words of one former student, in constant violation of “campus policy on smoking, pets, drugs, alcohol, public sex, (insert flavor-of-the-month form of rebellion here).”The dorm is about to be dismantled. MIT has decided to kick everyone out, allowing its current members to reapply for residence in the space for the fall, but insisting it will repopulate it. “You will see that we are seeking individuals who are committed to contributing to a residential environment that supports residents’ academic and personal development,” chancellor Cynthia Barnhart wrote in a letter to current and former student members, obtained by Quartz and confirmed by the university.
MIT, which prides itself on exalting data, says data drove the decision: 59.7% of students who start off (pdf) living in Senior House graduate in four years. That compares to a university-wide average of 83.7%. …
To many students, the announcement amounts to cultural sterilization, an effort to turn the most interesting, diverse, and accepting dorm into another haven for aspiring doctors and engineers.
House member Sabrina M., class of 2019, was devastated by the changes. On a blog on MIT’s admissions page, she described Senior House (lovingly nicknamed Haus, motto: “Sport Death, Only Life Can Kill You” ) as:
…a dorm for a disproportionately high amount of LGBT students, students of color, and first generation students, people who are already statistically more likely to deal with mental issues and struggle in school. …On the same admissions blog, Michelle G., class of 2018, questioned whether the graduation data cited by the university ignored that “students of certain demographic backgrounds are significantly more likely to take longer than four years to graduate.” Senior House, she wrote, is one of the most inexpensive dorms to live in, and attracts a disproportionately high share of low-income students. According to her post, the three most expensive dorms have the highest graduation rates vs. the cheapest ones, which have the lowest. She also noted that, according to the chancellor’s office, 40% of Senior House students are LGBT.
How often do gay staffers take over admissions departments and let in marginal gay applicants? A high percentage of undergrad admissions part time staffers who conduct campus tours for high school students are effeminate gay theater majors and the like. I’d hardly be surprised if a lot of colleges have heavily gay admissions departments that let in more gay applicants than they should.
Observing the life of the particular 2002 graduate of MIT, I did not see anything like that in McGregor dormitory. That graduate made Master degree in Comp. Sci. in 4 years.
Hmm so MiT admits a number of sexual deviants, minorities with emotional problems and a genetic predisposition towards sub-optimal performance.
This was never going to end well.
The common sense approach is to tighten admissions. Make sure they all the pre-reqs, etc.
Of course this means the deviants and ethnics don’t get admitted because they are unfit for such a institution as was Michelle Obama for Princeton but was let in anyway.
In the end all MIT is to join the the ranks of the incompetent. – though they already did that when the head of some physics dept thought that “Clock boy ahmed” was some sort of genius.
That said the antics at our universities are so absurd that no fiction writer could concoct them except the fella who wrote “Naked Lunch” since he was stoned out of his gord on god knows what.
Where do you find this stuff ? 🙂
Happy Father’s Day to Steve Sailer and all the dads here.
Our government likes to say "If You See Something, Say Something™".
I did and I encourage other readers to post interesting finds.Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
Who is higher on the totem pole, blacks or gays?
#nojusticenopride
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Phrasing!
Why do they do that? Is it because they’re trying to gain access to lots of sexual partners?
Straight left wing women will also favor gay male applicants at the margin as well, and they are far more numerous.
Once, during an argument in a restaurant, Wrangler shouted at Whiting: “I’m trying to tell you I’m a f—— faggot!” Replied Margaret: “Only around the edges, dear.”
http://people.com/archive/after-three-marriages-crooner-margaret-whiting-lands-her-ideal-in-x-rated-star-jack-wrangler-vol-27-no-18/
I was impressed by the following:
• She herself was not a graduate of the elite university she worked for, but of a somewhat lower tier one, yet she had the power to determine what their incoming classes, i.e. their future, would be.
• She had no apparent institutional loyalty to her employer, indeed she was actively undermining it.
• She was not at all ashamed about what she was doing, indeed she seemed to construe her treachery as virtue.
• The university either didn't notice or didn't care or ... tacitly approved of her actions ... or, if "diversity" was an official goal, rewarded her destruction.
• She assumed that I, a relative stranger, would approve.
Needless to say, the date didn't amount to anything.
If you can stomach some personal details, several years later I chanced to learn that this lady's broodiness had overcome her patience for blind dates, and she got herself turkey bastered so she could become a swingin' single mother complete with fashion accessory/human child. Shortly thereafter, she met the man whom she decided was The One. He felt strongly about her too, but was jealous/resentful about the turkey baster baby. Don't know how it all worked out. But it sure looks like a situation with no good ending. Sort of like the universities-admitting-mental-cases situation.
Anyway, this is just to say that it is not only "gay effeminate theater majors" ensuring that incoming university classes are as dysfunctional as possible. So yes, Lot, it is as you say and worse.Replies: @fitzGetty, @Mr. Anon, @Jim Don Bob
By the way, engineering is really hard and won’t even make you rich. So unless you’re really studious and talented at math, MIT might not be a good idea. You could fail out. Then you’re screwed for life.
If you can get into any university, go to an Ivy league university. Make sure to major in something non-engineering, such as economics or business. Ivy League classes are extremely easy to get good grades in. Then once you graduate, you can go onto a very lucrative career in finance (investment banking, asset management, private equity, hedge funds, sales&trading), corporate strategy, or management consulting. Those careers don’t even require much in IQ or ability, but pay REALLY well. Hours are long though.
There are lots of intellectually medicore Ivy kids making 100-150K/yr on Wall Street at age 22. If they’re adept at office politics, some of these people end up becoming millionaires by their 30s.
I believe Ron explained a while ago how it is that people get into Ivy League universities. Something about Middle American WCMs not wanted...
What is your evaluation of the prospect of getting into the trough after college. And what of MBAs
I have some ability to get in good with people, but will have to learn to hide my hostility, lol!
Btw there are still niches to exploit other than financeReplies: @anon
Consulting is no snooze either especially the prestigious firms..
I think people overstate the magic of Ivy league schools, many people get in because they're hard workers that are extremely sharp, and many of them go on to careers that demand a lot. These people would have likely done well otherwise.
There are plenty of 'losers' that graduate and make mediocre 60k salaries in non profits but can afford it because their parents are rich.
I'm not sure what the breakout is though.
Intellectually mediocre kids from Ivy league go into bullshit positions like tech evangelist or diversity management, not high finance or consulting.
If you have to live within commuting distance of Lower Manhattan, $150K doesn't buy you the lifestyle it would in Tennessee
You would have to save for a year just to afford a basic nose job, which you're gonna need if you want to "Get Laid In Manhattan While Being a Quant Graduate" who wasn't able to get his college girlfriend a job in NYC.
If you can get into any university, go to an Ivy league university. Make sure to major in something non-engineering, such as economics or business. Ivy League classes are extremely easy to get good grades in. Then once you graduate, you can go onto a very lucrative career in finance (investment banking, asset management, private equity, hedge funds, sales&trading), corporate strategy, or management consulting. Those careers don't even require much in IQ or ability, but pay REALLY well. Hours are long though.
There are lots of intellectually medicore Ivy kids making 100-150K/yr on Wall Street at age 22. If they're adept at office politics, some of these people end up becoming millionaires by their 30s.Replies: @AnonCow, @Maj. Kong, @Anonymous, @Difference Maker, @mukat, @anon, @Kaz, @Karl
100-150k is starting salary territory for new CS grads. MIT grads could probably negotiate the high end, but many other schools have an easier program and can give you a similar salary. And this is for generic BigCo jobs that aren’t that hard as long as you can program, hours are standard 40. Work in finance, you can easily make much more. If you’re adept at VC politics, you can be a millionaire before you’re 30.
If you can get into any university, go to an Ivy league university. Make sure to major in something non-engineering, such as economics or business. Ivy League classes are extremely easy to get good grades in. Then once you graduate, you can go onto a very lucrative career in finance (investment banking, asset management, private equity, hedge funds, sales&trading), corporate strategy, or management consulting. Those careers don't even require much in IQ or ability, but pay REALLY well. Hours are long though.
There are lots of intellectually medicore Ivy kids making 100-150K/yr on Wall Street at age 22. If they're adept at office politics, some of these people end up becoming millionaires by their 30s.Replies: @AnonCow, @Maj. Kong, @Anonymous, @Difference Maker, @mukat, @anon, @Kaz, @Karl
Finance has long term political risks, a transaction tax is coming either from the Corbyn/Sanders Left or the Nationalist Right. Concentration of wealth into a few globalist liberal cities is neither a good nor popular idea.
I believe Ron explained a while ago how it is that people get into Ivy League universities. Something about Middle American WCMs not wanted…
My first cousin once removed is at MIT and seems rather red pilled as they say. My impression from some brief words is that MIT harbors a population not entirely sympathetic to Silicon Valley and modern liberalism generally
If you can get into any university, go to an Ivy league university. Make sure to major in something non-engineering, such as economics or business. Ivy League classes are extremely easy to get good grades in. Then once you graduate, you can go onto a very lucrative career in finance (investment banking, asset management, private equity, hedge funds, sales&trading), corporate strategy, or management consulting. Those careers don't even require much in IQ or ability, but pay REALLY well. Hours are long though.
There are lots of intellectually medicore Ivy kids making 100-150K/yr on Wall Street at age 22. If they're adept at office politics, some of these people end up becoming millionaires by their 30s.Replies: @AnonCow, @Maj. Kong, @Anonymous, @Difference Maker, @mukat, @anon, @Kaz, @Karl
Maybe things have changed, but when I was in college, getting interviews with Wall Street banks was very competitive, so those jobs were not easy to come by. Also, many students who got those jobs are from affluent families and had good connections that help them land those jobs.
If you can get into any university, go to an Ivy league university. Make sure to major in something non-engineering, such as economics or business. Ivy League classes are extremely easy to get good grades in. Then once you graduate, you can go onto a very lucrative career in finance (investment banking, asset management, private equity, hedge funds, sales&trading), corporate strategy, or management consulting. Those careers don't even require much in IQ or ability, but pay REALLY well. Hours are long though.
There are lots of intellectually medicore Ivy kids making 100-150K/yr on Wall Street at age 22. If they're adept at office politics, some of these people end up becoming millionaires by their 30s.Replies: @AnonCow, @Maj. Kong, @Anonymous, @Difference Maker, @mukat, @anon, @Kaz, @Karl
Though I’m sure there are actual numerate personnel to anchor those institutions.
What is your evaluation of the prospect of getting into the trough after college. And what of MBAs
I have some ability to get in good with people, but will have to learn to hide my hostility, lol!
Btw there are still niches to exploit other than finance
The thing with any sort of technically based field is that they need managers and a lot of managerial jobs require subject matter expertise. The result being that there is the potential for rapid movement either up with your company, move to a better company/job, or slide into consulting.
My advice would be to:
1. Get a job in any company that is growing rapidly.
2. Get a job in a company that is failing. These are great fun for the new people.
3. Selling technical or specialized things or services that are very expensive and have an associated commission -- either directly or indirectly -- let you get paid for your efforts.
There is also stuff that doesn't fit well with traditional academic silos. Logistics, for example. And there are always small, software verticals. A lot of it can't be easily scaled and gross margins are always very high.Replies: @Steve Sailer
From the tumultuous relationship of singer Margaret Whiting and gay porn star Jack Wrangler:
Once, during an argument in a restaurant, Wrangler shouted at Whiting: “I’m trying to tell you I’m a f—— faggot!” Replied Margaret: “Only around the edges, dear.”
http://people.com/archive/after-three-marriages-crooner-margaret-whiting-lands-her-ideal-in-x-rated-star-jack-wrangler-vol-27-no-18/
There are theater majors at MIT?
Universities cannot ride herd on their Admissions Depts. The Nice White Ladies, the flamboyantly gay, and the diesel lesbians are all untouchable. Double Plus for “Lamarr” in “Revenge of the Nerds” and such. And these people can do what they want. They are not invested in the University, or its long term success.
Thus the decline of Harvard, Stanford, Yale, Princeton, as well as MIT and the rest. Any university that has even a few Nice White Ladies and Gays and Lesbians and People of Color will let in as many marginal gay/POC applicants at the expense of somewhat jockish White dudes who will go on to make good money to a fortune (example: Gene Haas of Hass Industries and the Formula One team). Thus donations twenty years out and so are going to decline, radically, as the fabulously gay or lesbian or POC grads go into low-paying stuff and don’t kick up the odd million or two every year for fundraising.
Modern online MOOCs and such make most (not lab courses obviously) Universities obsolete anyway. The whole town-and-gown stuff that has existed since the 1100s is just going away under its own stupidity.
As a guy who’s been in the corporate workforce, and in the entertainment industry, seeking the approval of gay administrators is the same as being jewish seeking approval from jewish administrators/cabals.
That is, if you’re highly qualified, they won’t deny you, but if you’re underqualified, and belong to the favored group, you will likely get a hand up due to “professional minority courtesy.” If you’re both equal, they’re more give it to their favored minority.
When you belong to whichever minority group, you speak the same “shorthand” that an outsider will never fully grasp. Mark Maron has repeatedly said on his podcast that he feels far more comfortable with jewish interviewee’s because they just “understand” each other in a way that goyim can’t approach.
Fairly recently, he even said that some of his jewish friends have been telling him to knock that shit off–by that they meant constantly repeating it, or implying it on the air.
I’ve noticed he has stopped saying it, but you can tell he brightens up measurably, and certainly behaves more “jewey” when interviewing to his jewish brethren, despite the fact that he’s not a practicing jew, and grew up in New Mexico!
He just likes jews… better than youse!
I expect this runs across all minority lines to a significant degree.
In another 10 years, Superman will look like Jerry Seinfeld.
My wife and I will listen just to hear how Jewey he'll get during his mind-melds with members of the tribe/entertainment community. It's a predictable option because they (less than 2% of the US population) just happen make up 70% of his interviewees.
I liked him more on Air America as a counterbalance to the overly earnest sanctimony of Jeanne Garafalo. My favorite WTF show was the episode following the 2016 presidential election, where he stammered, sputtered and kvetched through a diatribe delivered by a man sending out an SOS to his comrades while desperately searching for his bug-out bag.
James Woods has a 180 IQ, got a perfect SAT score, and attended MIT, majoring in theatre.
How was that measured?
Indian burial ground.
THE CAMBRIDGESIDE CRYPT
by H.P. Lovecraft
Echoes of a dream of debauchery in walls of a desolate corridor greasy with emissions from the ritual Steer Roast. There are whispered rumors among the denizens of this queer warren that intimate of a horrible occurrence during this annual gathering, necessitating its suppression by the reclusive Elders of the institution. On a bulletin board, a ragged notice from MIT Medical:Replies: @El Dato
They want the abyss to grow and consume what is not the abyss
My abyss-mal reply was meant for you
It’s not only in the admissions office where “theater majors” are vastly, vastly over-represented among university employees.
On the flip side, I am familiar with a couple of humanities departments that have hired gay males exclusively for faculty positions for about five years. At least half the faculty in both departments fit that description now. It's hard to believe that some kind of informal networking is not at work.Replies: @Undocumented Shopper
I see a remake of Animal House.
Wow, only 83.7% overall. I’m surprised. Down the street at Harvard it’s 95%.
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Gay Blacks?
In times past, or among soccer hooligans, it was common to belittle your enemies by questioning their manhood and sexual orientation. So most gays are depicted as white, while black gays are rarely heard from. Officially promoting black gays on the totem pole would be an insult to black men.
The whole point of gay rights etc is to denigrate white men, black gays as a thing defeats the purpose.Replies: @Anoni
WIKIPEDIA says that he majored in political science:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Woods
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I would say that blacks are. A more important question is who is at the very peak of the totem pole ?
That’s because they’re a bunch of autists. Social manipulation has no effect on 1) those with very low social skills who it doesn’t penetrate to and 2) those with very high social skills who can figure out what’s going on. It’s those in the middle who ruin everything.
But the nature of STEM courses also works against adopting the prob/liberal narrative. STEM courses deal with what works. Do your Thermo answers work? Do your Linear Algebra proofs work? Can you work out those solutions in a step-by-step path, in a logical path? Whereas, adopting the prog/liberal narrative merely involves memorizing a catechism of sorts. While logic is needed to solve STEM problems, logic is not necessary in adopting the prog/liberal narrative.
Even so, the prog/liberal narrative has made inroads into the STEM community.Replies: @Alice
Mental issues like stupidity.
Enjoy your theatre majors going at it in the showers.
I bet those who graduated moved out quickly.
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“Higher on the pole”?
Phrasing!
The Long March Through The Institutions.
Totally Muslim women.
Thus the decline of Harvard, Stanford, Yale, Princeton, as well as MIT and the rest. Any university that has even a few Nice White Ladies and Gays and Lesbians and People of Color will let in as many marginal gay/POC applicants at the expense of somewhat jockish White dudes who will go on to make good money to a fortune (example: Gene Haas of Hass Industries and the Formula One team). Thus donations twenty years out and so are going to decline, radically, as the fabulously gay or lesbian or POC grads go into low-paying stuff and don't kick up the odd million or two every year for fundraising.
Modern online MOOCs and such make most (not lab courses obviously) Universities obsolete anyway. The whole town-and-gown stuff that has existed since the 1100s is just going away under its own stupidity.Replies: @SteveRogers42, @Peter Akuleyev
Very good point. Can confirm.
Tragic Dirt Under an MIT Dorm:
THE CAMBRIDGESIDE CRYPT
by H.P. Lovecraft
Echoes of a dream of debauchery in walls of a desolate corridor greasy with emissions from the ritual Steer Roast. There are whispered rumors among the denizens of this queer warren that intimate of a horrible occurrence during this annual gathering, necessitating its suppression by the reclusive Elders of the institution. On a bulletin board, a ragged notice from MIT Medical:
“who is at the very peak of the totem pole ?”
Proteus.
Or possibly differently-abled trans Muslim lesbian HIV positive crazy drug-addicted age-queers.
Back in the aughties I was on a blind date with a “nice white lady” who turned out to be an admissions officer for an elite university (maybe Princeton or Yale, but I forget exactly). Regarding her work, she boasted how she scrutinized applications for little tells of, for example, homosexuality or coloredness, so that she could promote (i.e. push beyond merit) those applications into the university.
I was impressed by the following:
• She herself was not a graduate of the elite university she worked for, but of a somewhat lower tier one, yet she had the power to determine what their incoming classes, i.e. their future, would be.
• She had no apparent institutional loyalty to her employer, indeed she was actively undermining it.
• She was not at all ashamed about what she was doing, indeed she seemed to construe her treachery as virtue.
• The university either didn’t notice or didn’t care or … tacitly approved of her actions … or, if “diversity” was an official goal, rewarded her destruction.
• She assumed that I, a relative stranger, would approve.
Needless to say, the date didn’t amount to anything.
If you can stomach some personal details, several years later I chanced to learn that this lady’s broodiness had overcome her patience for blind dates, and she got herself turkey bastered so she could become a swingin’ single mother complete with fashion accessory/human child. Shortly thereafter, she met the man whom she decided was The One. He felt strongly about her too, but was jealous/resentful about the turkey baster baby. Don’t know how it all worked out. But it sure looks like a situation with no good ending. Sort of like the universities-admitting-mental-cases situation.
Anyway, this is just to say that it is not only “gay effeminate theater majors” ensuring that incoming university classes are as dysfunctional as possible. So yes, Lot, it is as you say and worse.
The university - was afraid to do anything about it.
And - etc etc ...
2) Thanks to whomever recommended Twelve American Wars: Nine of Them Avoidable. It was informative and quite readable.
https://www.amazon.com/Twelve-American-Wars-Nine-Avoidable/dp/1491730552
“…a dorm for a disproportionately high amount of LGBT students, students of color, and first generation students, people who are already statistically more likely to deal with mental issues and struggle in school. …”
Other than being a pot-pourri of various high-potential grievance-industry superstars, what at all do these have in common?
It does look like MIT created a Concentration Camp themed dorm.
An accidental experiment that seems to have failed…
MIT’s commitment to science and respect for statistics is admirable. They should be encouraged to undertake many more similar social experiments with the aim, “To Reveal How Diversity is Our Strength.”
I’ve mentioned it before, but I, who as an 18 year old would have loved to have gone to an elite college (but ended u at State U) have utterly given up with regards to my own children.
I’m comfortable sending kids to State U. Not because it is good (its not: State U is really just football and party U, no matter what the State), but because its just as bad as private/elite/smaller colleges, and far less expensive. I feel that the University Experience is actually not good: and its particularly Not Good the younger you are. I’d much prefer my kids do something else for a year or two, if they can find it* (play minor league baseball, work as a lifeguard or nanny and stay at home, work at Church camps, whatever-something not mundane, but pay is almost irrelevant), and go to college when they are older. 18 years old and naïve is just too young and inexperienced to resist the rot of modern University. Ideally, they will get advanced placement and perhaps community college credits so that they only invest 2 years or so in the corrupt institution of their choice, as well.
Its very unfortunate. My kids will be financially secure enough that they don’t have to study for a skill, like I did. But that happened right when Universities got so rotten, its not worth it to study for anything but a skill anymore. If they want to learn about Plato or Shakespeare or Napoleon, they need to surf the internet. University is for engineering, medicine, perhaps finance. The rest isn’t merely fluff: its a waste of oxygen.
joe
*In years past, I would have said join the military. Not anymore.
What’s insane is that they continue to admit students that mirror the profile of students that would want to live in the “diverse” dorm.
… MIT ? … good God – I thought it was all about excellence, achievement, and all that , rather than the socio gutter …
I was impressed by the following:
• She herself was not a graduate of the elite university she worked for, but of a somewhat lower tier one, yet she had the power to determine what their incoming classes, i.e. their future, would be.
• She had no apparent institutional loyalty to her employer, indeed she was actively undermining it.
• She was not at all ashamed about what she was doing, indeed she seemed to construe her treachery as virtue.
• The university either didn't notice or didn't care or ... tacitly approved of her actions ... or, if "diversity" was an official goal, rewarded her destruction.
• She assumed that I, a relative stranger, would approve.
Needless to say, the date didn't amount to anything.
If you can stomach some personal details, several years later I chanced to learn that this lady's broodiness had overcome her patience for blind dates, and she got herself turkey bastered so she could become a swingin' single mother complete with fashion accessory/human child. Shortly thereafter, she met the man whom she decided was The One. He felt strongly about her too, but was jealous/resentful about the turkey baster baby. Don't know how it all worked out. But it sure looks like a situation with no good ending. Sort of like the universities-admitting-mental-cases situation.
Anyway, this is just to say that it is not only "gay effeminate theater majors" ensuring that incoming university classes are as dysfunctional as possible. So yes, Lot, it is as you say and worse.Replies: @fitzGetty, @Mr. Anon, @Jim Don Bob
She – was quite simply a stupid, gullible prole.
The university – was afraid to do anything about it.
And – etc etc …
I'm comfortable sending kids to State U. Not because it is good (its not: State U is really just football and party U, no matter what the State), but because its just as bad as private/elite/smaller colleges, and far less expensive. I feel that the University Experience is actually not good: and its particularly Not Good the younger you are. I'd much prefer my kids do something else for a year or two, if they can find it* (play minor league baseball, work as a lifeguard or nanny and stay at home, work at Church camps, whatever-something not mundane, but pay is almost irrelevant), and go to college when they are older. 18 years old and naïve is just too young and inexperienced to resist the rot of modern University. Ideally, they will get advanced placement and perhaps community college credits so that they only invest 2 years or so in the corrupt institution of their choice, as well.
Its very unfortunate. My kids will be financially secure enough that they don't have to study for a skill, like I did. But that happened right when Universities got so rotten, its not worth it to study for anything but a skill anymore. If they want to learn about Plato or Shakespeare or Napoleon, they need to surf the internet. University is for engineering, medicine, perhaps finance. The rest isn't merely fluff: its a waste of oxygen.
joe
*In years past, I would have said join the military. Not anymore.Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Dr. X
What % of college frosh suffer some kind of mental health breakdown?
It seems pretty common, but our universities don’t appear eager to investigate this pervasive public health problem. I wonder why not?
A couple of years ago, I was engaging a young lady on Twitter about this very subject, and I was trying to get at causation, i.e. are the mental health problems caused by the university experience or not? I eventually gave up, since we lacked a common vocabulary to discuss such things.
Elite tech colleges skew male. Males commit suicide at almost four times the rate of females.
Kids kill themselves over the C in an engineering/pre-med/CS course that kept them out of the grad program they wanted. Nobody kills themselves over a C in Gender Studies. The entire litany of the insanity being displayed at Mizzou, Everqueen State, Berzerkley, Middlebury, etc., are proof of the mental health of the average college student in the 21st Century being, for the most part, externalized.
The important question is just how many people Michelle Carter has on her text list!
Still, universities aren't actually parents and there isn't a whole lot they can do about students going crazy.
Senior Haus definitely attracts an... eclectic mix of students, but it also has a long history of drug dealing/using: http://tech.mit.edu/V111/N1/howitt.01n.html see also: https://krassy101.wordpress.com/tag/senior-house/
The dorm's a liability and the students involved might be genuinely better off not living with each other.
On the other hand, there's nothing to stop them from doing the same things while living in other dorms.
I remember that when I was applying to colleges c. 1974-75, Rice University had a fearsome reputation for being #1 in America on that count, at least going by hearsay. Was it actually anything like that?
“another haven for aspiring doctors and engineers”means, I assume ‘another haven for aspiring doctors and engineers, the bastards’.
The more woke among us are aware of it, but as you say the image-conscious universities don’t seem eager to dig into this too deeply. There is a tension here, since being concerned about the mental health of trendy minorities is a thing, but perhaps a nagging suspicion makes the universities unwilling to ask any uncomfortable questions, or collect too many numbers, lest it reflect badly on them.
A couple of years ago, I was engaging a young lady on Twitter about this very subject, and I was trying to get at causation, i.e. are the mental health problems caused by the university experience or not? I eventually gave up, since we lacked a common vocabulary to discuss such things.
I’m willing to buy the dirt is tragic, ala poltergeist. I think the whole place needs an exorcism. Rebooting isn’t enough. Raze it and salt the ground.
Yes, the goal of the MIT rebooting Sr Haus is to lower the disproportionate sjwness in the place.
MIT has been filled with SJW deans for decades. They’ve been forcing incoming freshmen to read SJW books over the summer since the 80s. They’ve made them watch plays and have discussion groups about date rape since the 90s. They’ve been handing them books like Our Bodies Ourselves, pro abortion, pro radical gay agenda books pretending to be anatomy texts.
They have living arrangements that segregated blacks since maybe the 70s. (Part of Sr Haus was called Chocolate City, and if you were black and lives in different part of Sr Haus, something was wrong with you. But their graduation rate might have been higher than 60%…)
Their admissions departments have been screwing certain minorities for decades as well. MIT brings in black and Hispanic kids with average SAT math scores below 700. These kids are completely outclassed compares to their foreign or asian counterparts’ knowledge and the deficit can’t be made up. It’s a lot easier to get high. And MIT doesn’t do anything to kick kids out, but keeps them in, floundering.
Lots of white kids in Sr Haus had the same problems. It’s difficult to find out you’re not as intellectually gifted as you thought, or worse, you are but you’re untrained for hard work and for studying. It’s an empty feeling. And MIT kids resort to heavy drinking and drugs routinely to make that feeling go away.
And as the SJWs admins gained more control at MIT, and encouraged more SJWness, those students who felt victimized by MIT (and we’re) increasingly segregated themselves into the dorms that had more “tolerance” — tolerance means more drugs, more out of control behavior.
But it wasn’t just SJWers. A bunch of libertarians lived there too. Equally lonely and unhinged, the natural selection and population drift led Sr Haus to have more people susceptible to the negatives of drugs and to the general despair of the place. MIT is a difficult place if all of your neighbors don’t go to classes.
LSD was a big problem at Sr Haus. Residents died from taking it and their following actions. Other residents has psychotic episodes. Residents died of heroin overdoses. Other residents has serious crack cocaine habits. Violence was a problem. Vandalism, assault, walls broken, furniture smashed by being thrown out the windows. Feral behavior was normalized there.
SR Haus was disproportionately non-engineering. Lots of math, physics, comp sci, chem majors. And lots of humanities majors who’d dropped out of the harder science and engineering ones.
Mathematics is another discipline now with a very high percentage of gay men. I believe this is because men who would otherwise be hetero but betas are in math. Math is cerebral, nonemotional. Anxious betas are often groomed from HS on by gays in math ed or mathematics. So some of these disproportionate living arrangements are knock on effects to the majors they pick. Lots of men on the gay scene are heavily into drugs, and maybe need the drugs to express these tendencies.
Sr Haus was closed to freshmen this past year. That was a morally good move, period. Barnhart was right. I’m not sure they can manage a new application process. Who would move in that wasn’t the prior type?
Can you elaborate please?
This seems relevant to the thread: http://mitguidetoresidences.mit.edu/map/senior-houseReplies: @Alice
I learned that he stopped coaching tennis around the time a student was murdered by a homosexual kidnapper back in the day. Interesting
In my CTY days I also had classmates complain about their teachers back home massaging their shoulders in the computer lab, complete with perverted smiling. Haha
Also, regarding humanities majors, there just aren't that many at MIT period. The school of Humanities awards maybe 40 undergrad degrees/year and some of those are in relatively solid areas such as economics.
http://web.mit.edu/registrar/stats/degrees/index.html
What is your connection with MIT, without giving away personal details?
There are very few place to hide at MIT – no “studies” majors. Even the few non math/science/engineering majors have to take the same courses freshman year (although they do offer dumbed down versions of the hardest ones like physics). You can’t write “Black Live Matters” 100 times and hand that in as the answer to your physics problem sets. Grade inflation has not hit MIT as hard as it has hit the Ivies.
Re hard classes, I believe the intro to physics is available in four levels of difficulty. One of these classes is the same as a harder one but is spread out over a longer period (thus making it easier). The school notes that the easier version appears the same as the harder version on the transcript.Replies: @Jack D
http://mitadmissions.org/discover/majors
“How often do gay staffers take over admissions departments and let in marginal gay applicants? ”
Dunno. How often to Old Yalie staffers let in marginal legacies?
Flounder, anyone?
Oh,no.
Instead of moar insane – orange – is – new- insane – black – gender – study – dropouts, we will end with extra truckload of these culturaly sterilized bores holding totally useless degrees in rocket surgery :
“the three most expensive dorms have the highest graduation rates vs. the cheapest ones, which have the lowest.”
No kidding. We all know that family income correlates very strongly with academic ability and achievement, and that race correlates even more strongly with these.
https://benkurtzblog.wordpress.com/2017/06/12/the-blackwhite-sat-gap/
On the margins, I’m sure the rampant misbehavior in Senior (“Animal”) House is not doing its residents any favors with respect to their grades. But then again, the mere fact that it seems to be disproportionately populated with poor, Black students means that even the strictest monastic environment would still likely see a substantially below-average 4-year graduation rate.
I feel bad for Michelle G., class of 2018, though. She’s clearly twigged to this, but if she doesn’t learn to be more circumspect in her public statements in a university setting, she’ll get hauled off by the Diversity Police and sent up the river for six month hard labor and Sensitivity Training in her local Reeducation Camp.
It was the dormitory,
to which the particular future 2002 MIT graduate,
was randomly placed in the Summer of 1998 for three days, together with his mother,
when they came there to get him settled.
Then they came back home, and starting in the Fall of 1998,
he stayed at D-entry of MacGregor for the remaining 4 years;
so he got his Master of Eng. in Comp. Sci. in 4 years at age 20.
Random event, may be guided by MIT Admissions (who knows ?)
Senior House has always been like that. My dorm, East Campus, was across Ames Street from it and from my 5th floor window I could look right into its courtyard. You could do whatever you wanted and nobody cared. Its polar opposite was MacGregor House. Bexley Hall, on Mass. Ave., was similarly nonjudgmental and drug-friendly but quiet rather than chaotic.
Apparently it’s gotten gayer than it was. Everyone knew that Senior House was a great place if you had your head sufficiently together that you would get your studying done regardless, but that it chewed up and spat out the mentally vulnerable (well, the Institute spat them out when they flunked, the dorm itself was not hostile).
They’ve been talking about purging Senior House for many years and I think they’ve actually done it on at least one previous occasion–which supports the Tragic Dirt theory.
The Chinese call it “Guanxi”, they do it better than we do believe me.
I might be wrong. Perhaps Chinese in cities with an extremely high concentration of their co-ethnics might be able leverage it better. Its basically a fictive family tradition, and modernity HATES HATES HATES any notion of family, to paraphrase Whiskey.
I’m a closeted, non-practicing homo who didn’t have the wherewithal to take advantage of the cartel (a few years back, I told the admissions recruiters from the Ivies that I was opposed to gay marriage, which was a big deal at that time). Though I haven’t personally seen a lot of evidence of the gay cartel, I’m sure that it exists; a little reading between the lines seems to confirm it. In fact, I recently spent a week observing a program at an elite (non-Ivy) college and was astounded at how overrepresented the gays were among the program leadership.
The Atlantic(?) once published an article that claimed that in the ’80s everyone who wanted to make it as a producer in Hollywood pretended to be gay. The article contrasted this to the early 2000s, when every wannabe producer pretended to be Jewish. I honestly wonder if that’s at all true and, if so, what caused the change?
Certainly, this almost undeniable tendency of minorities to network should be more commonly known. It must be a species of the Iron Law of Oligarchy.
Good for you for staying celibate and well-behaved. And I hope sober too.Replies: @A Frequent Commenter
The ironic thing is that I think that the opponents are right. The East Campus dorms (of which Senior House is one, they already closed one of the others) are the places where all the misfits and drug addicts of MIT collect themselves. This being MIT, these folks are smarter than your average tattooed loser – they are BRILLIANT misfits. (The West Campus dorms are where all the relatively normal people live. ) Distributing them out to the other dorms won’t make the problems of these folks go away any more than Section 8 does.
Senior House (which BTW is right next to the building where the President of MIT lives) finally pissed off a few too many people.
https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:KckrHsxozQEJ:https://thetech.com/2017/04/27/2017-steer-roast-canceled+&cd=3&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us
The Steer Roast was originally just a barbecue but it became sort of MIT’s answer to Burning Man complete with mud wrestling. I don’t think the modern Senior House would have chosen roasting a large mammal as its signature event – the vegans must have been horrified. But it was an old tradition.
The thing that MIT is most concerned about is bad publicity that will cause applications to drop (thus lowering their US News rating). MIT used to allow freshmen to live in frats. About 20 years ago a freshman (who BTW looked exactly like Haven Monahan) died of alcohol poisoning so they made all the freshman live on campus after that.
http://tech.mit.edu/V117/N46/alcohol.46n.html
The “dangerous behavior” that led to the cancellation of Steer Roast must have worried them that someone else was going to eventually die and bring more bad publicity. I would guess that it was drug related. Pot is widely tolerated and not dangerous so I would guess another drug.
The Senior House, Burning Man connection goes the other way actually. Find the most impressive piece of techno-art at Burning Man and interview the builders. You will likely find an MIT alum who hung out at Senior House as an undergrad.
It used to be that only gay Jews were admitted. Now it looks like an ol gay goy can get in
I'm comfortable sending kids to State U. Not because it is good (its not: State U is really just football and party U, no matter what the State), but because its just as bad as private/elite/smaller colleges, and far less expensive. I feel that the University Experience is actually not good: and its particularly Not Good the younger you are. I'd much prefer my kids do something else for a year or two, if they can find it* (play minor league baseball, work as a lifeguard or nanny and stay at home, work at Church camps, whatever-something not mundane, but pay is almost irrelevant), and go to college when they are older. 18 years old and naïve is just too young and inexperienced to resist the rot of modern University. Ideally, they will get advanced placement and perhaps community college credits so that they only invest 2 years or so in the corrupt institution of their choice, as well.
Its very unfortunate. My kids will be financially secure enough that they don't have to study for a skill, like I did. But that happened right when Universities got so rotten, its not worth it to study for anything but a skill anymore. If they want to learn about Plato or Shakespeare or Napoleon, they need to surf the internet. University is for engineering, medicine, perhaps finance. The rest isn't merely fluff: its a waste of oxygen.
joe
*In years past, I would have said join the military. Not anymore.Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Dr. X
My kid went to a service academy, not a civilian university, in 2006. It was undeniably much better than going to “college.” (Of course, to get admitted, you have to be above average; my kid graduated valedictorian and was also athletic).
Unfortunately, during the Obama years, the military did start to come under the influence of leftism and Cultural Marxism, but even so, it’s not nearly as bad as college.
The other problem with the military is that it has become the imperial army of the globalist elites. We’ve had sixteen years of continuous warfare with no end in sight — and no real point to it all. That wasn’t quite so obvious in 2006, when it appeared that the Iraq and Afghanistan conflicts would be over in short order.
Another clue:
https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:3IR8O5OP9l4J:https://thetech.com/2017/06/18/sh-depopulation-pilot-2021-protest+&cd=2&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us
This article says “MIT’s claim of widespread dangerous behavior we know now is drug-related. ”
The Tech, (MIT’s student paper) BTW is not a particularly well written paper -no journalism majors at MIT. Also it doesn’t seem like a lot of students engage with it (or maybe even read it) – zero comments on most articles including this one. Of course school is on break now.
There are actually quite a lot of “studies” majors at MIT, including Women’s Studies and Theater Arts. Take a look: http://mitadmissions.org/discover/majors
Re hard classes, I believe the intro to physics is available in four levels of difficulty. One of these classes is the same as a harder one but is spread out over a longer period (thus making it easier). The school notes that the easier version appears the same as the harder version on the transcript.
Not eventually going to die. Did die. Dave Moore. Ted Hontz. And other residents from other times, like Perry Finley. And the attempted suicides are numerous as are the psychotic breaks and lockups in MacLean hospital.
The opponents are wrong. Unlike section 8 housing, where the problems are such dispersed because nothing is pushing those folks to become healthy members of society, these kids get into problems because the normal behavior of senior house is to be high often, to go to school seldom, to behave violently as a matter of course. They are driven to their antisocial behavior over their exposure to it. There are misfits all over MIT. Many have far more healthy hobbies and diversions. It’s more Wolfe’s I am Charlotte Simmons.
MIT is one of the few institutions that lets freshmen choose their housing. Even more unique, overwhelmingly, MIT students stay in their living group for all four years. Because of the odd insulation of MIT from the rest of the world, your friends are from your housing situation, not the other way around. Your hobbies then are determine by your housing. And strongly, your major is determined therefore by housing. MIT has been letting kids self select their by their perceived identity for 50 years. And in case I need to state the obvious, letting 17 yr olds make long term life changing decisions based on the first four days in a new and hostile environment makes for a lot of bad choices.
Re Steve’s question about the LGBT ness and admissions, it helps to know that MIT deans have been SJWers since the 80s. The freshmen summer read has been an SJW selection since at least the mid 80s. By the early 90s, freshmen were required to attend date rape plays and discussion sections. Senior House had its own racially self selected minority housing, chocolate city, supported by MIT admin. MIT had a radical left newspaper on campus since at least 1986 (the Thistle.) MIT had a very active Wiccan chapter in those years as well.
I don’t know if the percentage of lesbians in science and engineering fields is actually disproportionately high, but the percentage of gay men in mathematics is. MIT is a school with lots of betas males who are more easily groomed into being gay. In HS math rather than sports appeals to these men, and they are often introduced to higher math topics by gay men.
Senior house was disproportionately the hardest and weakest majors. Physics math, theory computer sci and then music, theatre, environmental engineering.
The common theme in all of these cases is a profound angst and loneliness assuaged with drugs. And the drugs there were in the open, in the hallways, in the courtyard, at the giant parties.
Senior house hosted Nirvana in 1990. Also in those years were White Zombie, Soul asylum, Jon Spencer Blues explosion, Jad Fair and others. These events built up the identity of senior house for future residents, continuing the natural selection and population drift..
More MIT “Sport Death” action—snips from the Boston Herald back in 2005:A Harvard-hosted blog post touching on elite Yankee rive gauche drug history:Replies: @Ivy
Here again, the casual and pervasive assumption so common in the press that what is truly “interesting” is the marginal, the deviant, the perverse,………the other.
What I would find interesting would be the MIT students that this article specifically does not find interesting – the smart kids, who have their heads screwed on straight, and wish to accomplish something.
No, it wasn’t that senior house finally pissed off too many people. It’s that finally MIT’s got a Dean who cares
Cynthia Barnhart gives a darn about what happens to the kids there. It’s unconscionable what senior house was like, and has been like for 30+ years.
The place was bad. Low grade rates weren’t the only problem. Assaults, rapes, terrible accidents, numbers of kids into emergency rooms for drinking and drug poisoning, number of kids held for psych evals are the reasons.
Someone there actually cares now, as they should.
I was impressed by the following:
• She herself was not a graduate of the elite university she worked for, but of a somewhat lower tier one, yet she had the power to determine what their incoming classes, i.e. their future, would be.
• She had no apparent institutional loyalty to her employer, indeed she was actively undermining it.
• She was not at all ashamed about what she was doing, indeed she seemed to construe her treachery as virtue.
• The university either didn't notice or didn't care or ... tacitly approved of her actions ... or, if "diversity" was an official goal, rewarded her destruction.
• She assumed that I, a relative stranger, would approve.
Needless to say, the date didn't amount to anything.
If you can stomach some personal details, several years later I chanced to learn that this lady's broodiness had overcome her patience for blind dates, and she got herself turkey bastered so she could become a swingin' single mother complete with fashion accessory/human child. Shortly thereafter, she met the man whom she decided was The One. He felt strongly about her too, but was jealous/resentful about the turkey baster baby. Don't know how it all worked out. But it sure looks like a situation with no good ending. Sort of like the universities-admitting-mental-cases situation.
Anyway, this is just to say that it is not only "gay effeminate theater majors" ensuring that incoming university classes are as dysfunctional as possible. So yes, Lot, it is as you say and worse.Replies: @fitzGetty, @Mr. Anon, @Jim Don Bob
The turkey-baster kid should have been a clear signal to veer off. He should have told her he wasn’t interested in her specifically because of that.
Thus the decline of Harvard, Stanford, Yale, Princeton, as well as MIT and the rest. Any university that has even a few Nice White Ladies and Gays and Lesbians and People of Color will let in as many marginal gay/POC applicants at the expense of somewhat jockish White dudes who will go on to make good money to a fortune (example: Gene Haas of Hass Industries and the Formula One team). Thus donations twenty years out and so are going to decline, radically, as the fabulously gay or lesbian or POC grads go into low-paying stuff and don't kick up the odd million or two every year for fundraising.
Modern online MOOCs and such make most (not lab courses obviously) Universities obsolete anyway. The whole town-and-gown stuff that has existed since the 1100s is just going away under its own stupidity.Replies: @SteveRogers42, @Peter Akuleyev
Good points. I have noticed the decline in the alumni network of my own alma mater. My father’s class from the 1960s, being a more homogeneous group, stayed very involved in alumni affairs – fundraising, interviewing, networking, etc. My class is still fairly involved. But people from the alumni association have told me they have a hard time getting millennial graduates to care about university events. The lesbian graduates have no interest in associating with the crew team, and the black graduates don’t want to hang with any white people. And now you have Chinese nationals who don’t even understand the point of alumni networks, etc. etc. What used to be the real secret strength of an Ivy League educati0n – being plugged into a network of people with power and influence who would take your call – is being weakened and diluted. But the response of the university is not to reduce diversity, or maybe at least to encourage more integration of students while on campus. No, the alumni people have decided to promote alumni “interest groups”. So all the gay theater majors can have their own meet ups and reunions, and the black feminists can go do their thing. All partly sponsored with university funds of course. And alumni commitment to the school as an institution will continue to dwindle.
“Queer” includes lots of celibate nerds who want to seem interesting.
Flounder is dead: http://www.cnn.com/2017/06/17/entertainment/stephen-furst-obit/index.html
I was impressed by the following:
• She herself was not a graduate of the elite university she worked for, but of a somewhat lower tier one, yet she had the power to determine what their incoming classes, i.e. their future, would be.
• She had no apparent institutional loyalty to her employer, indeed she was actively undermining it.
• She was not at all ashamed about what she was doing, indeed she seemed to construe her treachery as virtue.
• The university either didn't notice or didn't care or ... tacitly approved of her actions ... or, if "diversity" was an official goal, rewarded her destruction.
• She assumed that I, a relative stranger, would approve.
Needless to say, the date didn't amount to anything.
If you can stomach some personal details, several years later I chanced to learn that this lady's broodiness had overcome her patience for blind dates, and she got herself turkey bastered so she could become a swingin' single mother complete with fashion accessory/human child. Shortly thereafter, she met the man whom she decided was The One. He felt strongly about her too, but was jealous/resentful about the turkey baster baby. Don't know how it all worked out. But it sure looks like a situation with no good ending. Sort of like the universities-admitting-mental-cases situation.
Anyway, this is just to say that it is not only "gay effeminate theater majors" ensuring that incoming university classes are as dysfunctional as possible. So yes, Lot, it is as you say and worse.Replies: @fitzGetty, @Mr. Anon, @Jim Don Bob
Looks like you dodged a bullet, dude. There are a lot of crazy women out there; browse the profiles at an online dating site sometime.
2) Thanks to whomever recommended Twelve American Wars: Nine of Them Avoidable. It was informative and quite readable.
That is, if you're highly qualified, they won't deny you, but if you're underqualified, and belong to the favored group, you will likely get a hand up due to "professional minority courtesy." If you're both equal, they're more give it to their favored minority.
When you belong to whichever minority group, you speak the same "shorthand" that an outsider will never fully grasp. Mark Maron has repeatedly said on his podcast that he feels far more comfortable with jewish interviewee's because they just "understand" each other in a way that goyim can't approach.
Fairly recently, he even said that some of his jewish friends have been telling him to knock that shit off–by that they meant constantly repeating it, or implying it on the air.
I've noticed he has stopped saying it, but you can tell he brightens up measurably, and certainly behaves more "jewey" when interviewing to his jewish brethren, despite the fact that he's not a practicing jew, and grew up in New Mexico!
He just likes jews... better than youse!
I expect this runs across all minority lines to a significant degree.
In another 10 years, Superman will look like Jerry Seinfeld.Replies: @bomag, @MarcB.
While out-groupish whites love to gush over the “other” while stepping on their own.
Senior House (which BTW is right next to the building where the President of MIT lives) finally pissed off a few too many people.
https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:KckrHsxozQEJ:https://thetech.com/2017/04/27/2017-steer-roast-canceled+&cd=3&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us
The Steer Roast was originally just a barbecue but it became sort of MIT's answer to Burning Man complete with mud wrestling. I don't think the modern Senior House would have chosen roasting a large mammal as its signature event - the vegans must have been horrified. But it was an old tradition.
The thing that MIT is most concerned about is bad publicity that will cause applications to drop (thus lowering their US News rating). MIT used to allow freshmen to live in frats. About 20 years ago a freshman (who BTW looked exactly like Haven Monahan) died of alcohol poisoning so they made all the freshman live on campus after that.
http://tech.mit.edu/V117/N46/alcohol.46n.html
The "dangerous behavior" that led to the cancellation of Steer Roast must have worried them that someone else was going to eventually die and bring more bad publicity. I would guess that it was drug related. Pot is widely tolerated and not dangerous so I would guess another drug.Replies: @Anonymous
Senior House is also one of the only dorms without a meal plan. It therefore was overrepresented with poorer students who needed to live on 5 dollars a day of food.
The Senior House, Burning Man connection goes the other way actually. Find the most impressive piece of techno-art at Burning Man and interview the builders. You will likely find an MIT alum who hung out at Senior House as an undergrad.
Expand that to SJWs generally.
30 years ago, had someone written BLM (SDS or SNCC) over and over again on a college application, he would have been refused admission everywhere. Now he gets into Stanford.
30 years ago, would you have seen students at Yale acting hysterically over a comment about a Halloween costume?
30 year ago, would you have seen students at elite colleges shutting down innocuous free speech with rabid hatred?
At some point you have to ask if colleges are changing their admissions, favoring SJWs, and lowering their standards. Employers will find out soon enough.
https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:3IR8O5OP9l4J:https://thetech.com/2017/06/18/sh-depopulation-pilot-2021-protest+&cd=2&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us
This article says "MIT’s claim of widespread dangerous behavior we know now is drug-related. "
The Tech, (MIT's student paper) BTW is not a particularly well written paper -no journalism majors at MIT. Also it doesn't seem like a lot of students engage with it (or maybe even read it) - zero comments on most articles including this one. Of course school is on break now.Replies: @black sea
Journalism majors are – as a rule – not particularly good writers.
I donated to my alumni network for awhile, but it was feeling increasingly moribund as you mentioned: networking, interviewing, or even maintaining the website wasn’t up to par. And my university was in the top 20 for business; after it went hardcore liberal, I stopped donating money at all.
I thought about telling the alumni people why.
Yeah. An Ivy degree doesnt automatically get you 100k out of school. Not even close. Finance jobs are very competitive and I’m guessing connections matter more than anything.
I’m pretty sure androgynes have been historically overrepresented in the world of aesthetics and ideas by a comfortable margin. This combined with the current unprecedented social exaltation of androgyny in its various idioms (“LGBTQWERTY”) and academic fetish for perceived intersectional victims would intuitively make discussion of one’s homosexuality in an admissions essay a major plus in the eyes of the gatekeepers.
That said, I seriously doubt it was the gays qua gays which dragged down the average of said intersectional dorm. I would like to see a breakdown of the various snowflake categories and their respective graduation rates.
Sounds like Senior House is the Cabrini Green of MIT. MIT to give the residents a voucher to live in Malden.
THE CAMBRIDGESIDE CRYPT
by H.P. Lovecraft
Echoes of a dream of debauchery in walls of a desolate corridor greasy with emissions from the ritual Steer Roast. There are whispered rumors among the denizens of this queer warren that intimate of a horrible occurrence during this annual gathering, necessitating its suppression by the reclusive Elders of the institution. On a bulletin board, a ragged notice from MIT Medical:Replies: @El Dato
I’m sure shocking obeisance is being paid to a little onyx idol of a squatting portly SJW while mad pipers inhaling noxious weed smoke play unearthly tunes, said idol having a curiously unsettling effect on anyone who looks upon it in broad daylight,
A niece of mine lived at Stanford University’s “Synergy House” where one of the mating rituals was for the prettiest girls to demand that suitors have sex with each other before they would deign to spread their legs for them.
My niece didn’t particularly go for this “boomer” stuff and decided she’d become a Latter Day Saint.
Wait!!!
Chillax ladies and gentlemen. Just wait, take a deep breath and listen to your atavistic conscience.
Gay sex is very very very old Indo-European tradition.
Ancient Celts by far preferred the top/bottom mode than the usual one.
Ancient Greek dudes had the hots for prepubescent boys.
Ancient Romans spent weekends enjoying nuru massages from slave-boys.
Ancient Persians enthusiastically adopted pederasty from their Greek frenemies.
Fuck! They even had an island called Lesbos over there in Wewuzkangzistan.
We should treat this article as an encouraging development.
For this means that the Yamnaya folks are going back to Teh ‘Ole Days.
Any day now, I mean like any day, metrosexual cuck pussy-whipped house-husband panty-wearing dry-breast-feeding Swedish dudes will become Berserker Vikings once more, and kick out teh Mooz and teh Coonz, and re-establish their eternal historical status as world conquerors and invincible invaders.
There is a certain amount of truth in kihowi’s reply in that success in STEM courses often comes from single-minded, Aspergian-like, focus on the academic subjects at hand, instead of being distracted by other things. STEM courses by and large require much more focus – or call it work ethic – or call it Aspergian_like behavior–to succeed than non-STEM courses.
But the nature of STEM courses also works against adopting the prob/liberal narrative. STEM courses deal with what works. Do your Thermo answers work? Do your Linear Algebra proofs work? Can you work out those solutions in a step-by-step path, in a logical path? Whereas, adopting the prog/liberal narrative merely involves memorizing a catechism of sorts. While logic is needed to solve STEM problems, logic is not necessary in adopting the prog/liberal narrative.
Even so, the prog/liberal narrative has made inroads into the STEM community.
many of these same people think (and say out loud) "I'm so smart and I wouldn't make any mistakes. If people like me ran things, we'd have fixed everything."
So they adopted the liberal narrative because they believe they are the Chosen Ones and they'll be running this lib/prog system soon. Better then letting those mouth breathers have a say.
also another case of who/whom. Bright kids escaping the rural world for the towers of academia aren't looking to identify with what they left behind. Kids from liberal enclaves already know how to play the game. Easy to identify with the dominant cultural liberal positions so you are accepted into the fold.
Last reason, nerd betas still want to date. They seem to think saying out loud they are pro Palestine and pro whale will help.Replies: @guest
There are clearly Boomer alumni who are still giving despite (or maybe because of) the hard left turns. I think the university system ends up collapsing if very few give. Sky high institutions still don’t cover it all.
Excellent: keep calm and don't carry on.
The Long Mince through the institutions.
MIT has several “Studies” majors. I have no idea how many students take these up, but I would imagine more than a few of the underqualified end up changing to one of these after their first semester. What’s shocking is that “African and African Diaspora Studies” is only available as a minor right now. I guess all the qualified faculty (by MIT standards) have been sucked up by Harvard, Princeton and Yale.
http://mitadmissions.org/discover/majors
I don’t think it can be gay blacks as TPTB don’t want to see blacks denigrated as gay.
In times past, or among soccer hooligans, it was common to belittle your enemies by questioning their manhood and sexual orientation. So most gays are depicted as white, while black gays are rarely heard from. Officially promoting black gays on the totem pole would be an insult to black men.
The whole point of gay rights etc is to denigrate white men, black gays as a thing defeats the purpose.
“I think the university system ends up collapsing if very few give.”
Excellent: keep calm and don’t carry on.
I think the left wing/Gay mafia in admissions has an even more serious issue with admitting crazy people. Seriously, even my crazy left wing professor wife has been making comments about how its impossible to teach with the increasing numbers of crazy people in her classes (not quite elite school but still competitive.) Its the left wing cat woman propensity to collect various things instead of kids.
1)Students who have swallowed the SJW Kool-Aid and thus see the need to continually challenge profs about their racist/bigoted/homophobic/islamophobic/transphobic comments. That could definitely lead to classroom disruption incidents. Most people consider disrupting the class to be dysfunctional behavior whether it occurs in elementary school, junior high, or high school. Ditto college.
2)Students who have been indoctrinated from childhood in the belief that they are unique, brilliant individuals. Dylan saw it 50+ years ago in Love Minus Zero No Limit:That is something we all have to learn sooner or later. None of us are that special. Learning that is especially difficult for the latter-day snowflake, who has been told from birth how special he or she is. As a result, snowflake gets furious at the prof when an A is not forthcoming- even if snowflake has done nothing more than show up for class.
In times past, or among soccer hooligans, it was common to belittle your enemies by questioning their manhood and sexual orientation. So most gays are depicted as white, while black gays are rarely heard from. Officially promoting black gays on the totem pole would be an insult to black men.
The whole point of gay rights etc is to denigrate white men, black gays as a thing defeats the purpose.Replies: @Anoni
From what I have seen, you are wrong, SJWs love to promote gay blacks to various diversicrat positions.
I don’t believe for a second that James Woods has an IQ of 180.
Steve, after you approve my previous comment, please let me know what about it triggered the robots to hold it up while comments later than mine went through. I wouldn’t want to give offense to sensitive members of robotkind.
Happy Father's Day to Steve Sailer and all the dads here.Replies: @Undocumented Shopper
I am the one who brought this to Steve’s attention. I actually found this accidentally on the Swiss version of Google News (no, I am not Swiss. I practice French in this way.) The story looked interesting, so I looked for news about Senior House in English.
Our government likes to say “If You See Something, Say Something™”.
I did and I encourage other readers to post interesting finds.
What a coincidence! Just yesterday I was wandering the infinite corridor at MIT after a visit to the MIT Flea Market (unaware locals take note: third Sunday every month, April- October, $5 admission, lots of cool stuff for nerds) and the ship models in the Naval Architecture building (also worth a visit). While perusing a poster board I saw a flyer put out by students protesting this measure. The way the flyer was written gave me the impression that MIT was planning on the literal, physical destruction of Senior House. I’m glad that’s not the case. It’s an interesting piece of architecture.
Lesbian women are common among college administrators. Off the top of my head, I can name five lesbian deans at my local colleges. I know another college employee, a middle-aged wife and mother, who left her husband for a lesbian. The president of one of my alma maters is a lesbian. I remember Steve’s blogging about the tragic case of the lesbian president at UC Santa Cruz.
On the flip side, I am familiar with a couple of humanities departments that have hired gay males exclusively for faculty positions for about five years. At least half the faculty in both departments fit that description now. It’s hard to believe that some kind of informal networking is not at work.
Speaking of the Catholic Church, I was told by a well informed source that in 2013 the administrators of Saint John's Seminary (in Archdiocese of Boston) hired a private investigator in order to identify homos (one of them was easy to identify since he got caught making love in the parking lot) and carried out a Night Of Long Knives by expelling all five of them. I'm surprised they had the will to pull it off. I pretty much wrote the Church off, perhaps I was wrong?
Rather that the prevalent progressive ideology has driven them crazy. Expressed another way: the prevalent progressive ideology has encouraged tendencies to engage in dysfunctional behavior. For example:
1)Students who have swallowed the SJW Kool-Aid and thus see the need to continually challenge profs about their racist/bigoted/homophobic/islamophobic/transphobic comments. That could definitely lead to classroom disruption incidents. Most people consider disrupting the class to be dysfunctional behavior whether it occurs in elementary school, junior high, or high school. Ditto college.
2)Students who have been indoctrinated from childhood in the belief that they are unique, brilliant individuals. Dylan saw it 50+ years ago in Love Minus Zero No Limit:
That is something we all have to learn sooner or later. None of us are that special. Learning that is especially difficult for the latter-day snowflake, who has been told from birth how special he or she is. As a result, snowflake gets furious at the prof when an A is not forthcoming- even if snowflake has done nothing more than show up for class.
I told them why at my undergrad school. No response. But for Penn State, there are many many reasons. Mine might not be the same as another alumnus.
If you can get into any university, go to an Ivy league university. Make sure to major in something non-engineering, such as economics or business. Ivy League classes are extremely easy to get good grades in. Then once you graduate, you can go onto a very lucrative career in finance (investment banking, asset management, private equity, hedge funds, sales&trading), corporate strategy, or management consulting. Those careers don't even require much in IQ or ability, but pay REALLY well. Hours are long though.
There are lots of intellectually medicore Ivy kids making 100-150K/yr on Wall Street at age 22. If they're adept at office politics, some of these people end up becoming millionaires by their 30s.Replies: @AnonCow, @Maj. Kong, @Anonymous, @Difference Maker, @mukat, @anon, @Kaz, @Karl
Those careers do require high IQ, as in the ability to work extremely quickly with numbers and words. Creativity is not required at the lower levels.
I wonder if MacGregor was among three most expensive dormitories of MIT ?
It was the dormitory,
to which the particular future 2002 MIT graduate,
was randomly placed in the Summer of 1998 for three days, together with his mother,
when they came there to get him settled.
Then they came back home, and starting in the Fall of 1998,
he stayed at D-entry of MacGregor for the remaining 4 years;
so he got his Master of Eng. in Comp. Sci. in 4 years at age 20.
Random event, may be guided by MIT Admissions (who knows ?)
I feel sorry for your family life 🙁
Neither do I. And why would anybody join MIT to major in Political Science and minor in theater? What a bloody waste of time!
In 2013. not one person out of nearly 25,000 was able to pass Liberia’s university entrance exam, so the President just allowed 1800 into the University of Liberia anyway. (LINK)
This year West Point admitted a 22 year-old Liberian, who has completed one year of college. He, and other Liberian candidates, were given eight months of SAT prep and there is no mention of an athletic background. He will receive the same benefits and monthly stipend as Americans and will become a member of the Liberian Armed forces after graduation. (LINK)
The service academies admit mediocre American candidates through their preparatory schools. (LINK)
You would think, but its really not that effective due to its highly ritualized format at times. It might work inside of China, but like most traditions, it doesn’t seem to really survive contact with the West.
I might be wrong. Perhaps Chinese in cities with an extremely high concentration of their co-ethnics might be able leverage it better. Its basically a fictive family tradition, and modernity HATES HATES HATES any notion of family, to paraphrase Whiskey.
IQ 180?
How was that measured?
Yes, the goal of the MIT rebooting Sr Haus is to lower the disproportionate sjwness in the place.
MIT has been filled with SJW deans for decades. They've been forcing incoming freshmen to read SJW books over the summer since the 80s. They've made them watch plays and have discussion groups about date rape since the 90s. They've been handing them books like Our Bodies Ourselves, pro abortion, pro radical gay agenda books pretending to be anatomy texts.
They have living arrangements that segregated blacks since maybe the 70s. (Part of Sr Haus was called Chocolate City, and if you were black and lives in different part of Sr Haus, something was wrong with you. But their graduation rate might have been higher than 60%...)
Their admissions departments have been screwing certain minorities for decades as well. MIT brings in black and Hispanic kids with average SAT math scores below 700. These kids are completely outclassed compares to their foreign or asian counterparts' knowledge and the deficit can't be made up. It's a lot easier to get high. And MIT doesn't do anything to kick kids out, but keeps them in, floundering.
Lots of white kids in Sr Haus had the same problems. It's difficult to find out you're not as intellectually gifted as you thought, or worse, you are but you're untrained for hard work and for studying. It's an empty feeling. And MIT kids resort to heavy drinking and drugs routinely to make that feeling go away.
And as the SJWs admins gained more control at MIT, and encouraged more SJWness, those students who felt victimized by MIT (and we're) increasingly segregated themselves into the dorms that had more "tolerance" -- tolerance means more drugs, more out of control behavior.
But it wasn't just SJWers. A bunch of libertarians lived there too. Equally lonely and unhinged, the natural selection and population drift led Sr Haus to have more people susceptible to the negatives of drugs and to the general despair of the place. MIT is a difficult place if all of your neighbors don't go to classes.
LSD was a big problem at Sr Haus. Residents died from taking it and their following actions. Other residents has psychotic episodes. Residents died of heroin overdoses. Other residents has serious crack cocaine habits. Violence was a problem. Vandalism, assault, walls broken, furniture smashed by being thrown out the windows. Feral behavior was normalized there.
SR Haus was disproportionately non-engineering. Lots of math, physics, comp sci, chem majors. And lots of humanities majors who'd dropped out of the harder science and engineering ones.
Mathematics is another discipline now with a very high percentage of gay men. I believe this is because men who would otherwise be hetero but betas are in math. Math is cerebral, nonemotional. Anxious betas are often groomed from HS on by gays in math ed or mathematics. So some of these disproportionate living arrangements are knock on effects to the majors they pick. Lots of men on the gay scene are heavily into drugs, and maybe need the drugs to express these tendencies.
Sr Haus was closed to freshmen this past year. That was a morally good move, period. Barnhart was right. I'm not sure they can manage a new application process. Who would move in that wasn't the prior type?Replies: @res, @Difference Maker, @Jack D
I’m confused about placing Chocolate City in Senior House: http://mitguidetoresidences.mit.edu/new-house
Can you elaborate please?
This seems relevant to the thread: http://mitguidetoresidences.mit.edu/map/senior-house
“Senior House is a heterosexual, not a homosexual, dorm.”
— 1976-77 MIT Residence guide
Gosh, I feel old. I went to the Steer Roast once. Nice folk/bluegrass music. It wasn’t weird at all, other than being blanketed by black smoke–not from the cow, but from a tank truck crashing into a building at nearby Kendall.
When did Chocolate City move to Senior House? It was in New House way back when.
It’s hard for me not to think that the SJW-ishness of the administration started up around the time of the controversy that purged the Registration Day porn movie.
Yes, the goal of the MIT rebooting Sr Haus is to lower the disproportionate sjwness in the place.
MIT has been filled with SJW deans for decades. They've been forcing incoming freshmen to read SJW books over the summer since the 80s. They've made them watch plays and have discussion groups about date rape since the 90s. They've been handing them books like Our Bodies Ourselves, pro abortion, pro radical gay agenda books pretending to be anatomy texts.
They have living arrangements that segregated blacks since maybe the 70s. (Part of Sr Haus was called Chocolate City, and if you were black and lives in different part of Sr Haus, something was wrong with you. But their graduation rate might have been higher than 60%...)
Their admissions departments have been screwing certain minorities for decades as well. MIT brings in black and Hispanic kids with average SAT math scores below 700. These kids are completely outclassed compares to their foreign or asian counterparts' knowledge and the deficit can't be made up. It's a lot easier to get high. And MIT doesn't do anything to kick kids out, but keeps them in, floundering.
Lots of white kids in Sr Haus had the same problems. It's difficult to find out you're not as intellectually gifted as you thought, or worse, you are but you're untrained for hard work and for studying. It's an empty feeling. And MIT kids resort to heavy drinking and drugs routinely to make that feeling go away.
And as the SJWs admins gained more control at MIT, and encouraged more SJWness, those students who felt victimized by MIT (and we're) increasingly segregated themselves into the dorms that had more "tolerance" -- tolerance means more drugs, more out of control behavior.
But it wasn't just SJWers. A bunch of libertarians lived there too. Equally lonely and unhinged, the natural selection and population drift led Sr Haus to have more people susceptible to the negatives of drugs and to the general despair of the place. MIT is a difficult place if all of your neighbors don't go to classes.
LSD was a big problem at Sr Haus. Residents died from taking it and their following actions. Other residents has psychotic episodes. Residents died of heroin overdoses. Other residents has serious crack cocaine habits. Violence was a problem. Vandalism, assault, walls broken, furniture smashed by being thrown out the windows. Feral behavior was normalized there.
SR Haus was disproportionately non-engineering. Lots of math, physics, comp sci, chem majors. And lots of humanities majors who'd dropped out of the harder science and engineering ones.
Mathematics is another discipline now with a very high percentage of gay men. I believe this is because men who would otherwise be hetero but betas are in math. Math is cerebral, nonemotional. Anxious betas are often groomed from HS on by gays in math ed or mathematics. So some of these disproportionate living arrangements are knock on effects to the majors they pick. Lots of men on the gay scene are heavily into drugs, and maybe need the drugs to express these tendencies.
Sr Haus was closed to freshmen this past year. That was a morally good move, period. Barnhart was right. I'm not sure they can manage a new application process. Who would move in that wasn't the prior type?Replies: @res, @Difference Maker, @Jack D
Pretty sure one of my high school math teachers was closeted. Way too winky and suggestive sound making and close with the obvious homosexual teacher
I learned that he stopped coaching tennis around the time a student was murdered by a homosexual kidnapper back in the day. Interesting
In my CTY days I also had classmates complain about their teachers back home massaging their shoulders in the computer lab, complete with perverted smiling. Haha
Our government likes to say "If You See Something, Say Something™".
I did and I encourage other readers to post interesting finds.Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
They say that, but there is some fine print on the backside of that US Feral Gov’t pamphlet that says (don’t quote me) “… only applies to pleasure travelers and white grandmas at airports” “Any non-essential noticing of any sort is not applicable under this paragraph of the Federal Code and may be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law and media.” “Be a safe citizen – shut your yapper.”
I heard a long time ago that it was gay, black, Roman Catholic, Jews.
Yes, we are at the point where the ‘protected classes’ are now teaming up to disenfranchise the very whites who built the nation then felt bad and gave them a hand.
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Guess the group that trumps those plus the feminists.
Yup. That is the magic of Intersectionality.
Copyright that one!
At a certain non-selective private college in the NW, an HR apparatchick said in a staff meeting: “The mentally disturbed are an important part of our diversity”.
You have GOT to be $#!tting me. That’s something Caligula’s court would have dreamed up.
"Shit test"
https://illimitablemen.com/2014/12/14/the-shit-test-encyclopedia/
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Hippo, lesbian blacks members of BLM shut down Toronto’s Pride parade last year.
Only the rage of a RanXerox will be able to liberate us.
The opponents are wrong. Unlike section 8 housing, where the problems are such dispersed because nothing is pushing those folks to become healthy members of society, these kids get into problems because the normal behavior of senior house is to be high often, to go to school seldom, to behave violently as a matter of course. They are driven to their antisocial behavior over their exposure to it. There are misfits all over MIT. Many have far more healthy hobbies and diversions. It's more Wolfe's I am Charlotte Simmons.
MIT is one of the few institutions that lets freshmen choose their housing. Even more unique, overwhelmingly, MIT students stay in their living group for all four years. Because of the odd insulation of MIT from the rest of the world, your friends are from your housing situation, not the other way around. Your hobbies then are determine by your housing. And strongly, your major is determined therefore by housing. MIT has been letting kids self select their by their perceived identity for 50 years. And in case I need to state the obvious, letting 17 yr olds make long term life changing decisions based on the first four days in a new and hostile environment makes for a lot of bad choices.
Re Steve's question about the LGBT ness and admissions, it helps to know that MIT deans have been SJWers since the 80s. The freshmen summer read has been an SJW selection since at least the mid 80s. By the early 90s, freshmen were required to attend date rape plays and discussion sections. Senior House had its own racially self selected minority housing, chocolate city, supported by MIT admin. MIT had a radical left newspaper on campus since at least 1986 (the Thistle.) MIT had a very active Wiccan chapter in those years as well.
I don't know if the percentage of lesbians in science and engineering fields is actually disproportionately high, but the percentage of gay men in mathematics is. MIT is a school with lots of betas males who are more easily groomed into being gay. In HS math rather than sports appeals to these men, and they are often introduced to higher math topics by gay men.
Senior house was disproportionately the hardest and weakest majors. Physics math, theory computer sci and then music, theatre, environmental engineering.
The common theme in all of these cases is a profound angst and loneliness assuaged with drugs. And the drugs there were in the open, in the hallways, in the courtyard, at the giant parties.
Senior house hosted Nirvana in 1990. Also in those years were White Zombie, Soul asylum, Jon Spencer Blues explosion, Jad Fair and others. These events built up the identity of senior house for future residents, continuing the natural selection and population drift..Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican
Go ask Alice! Your informative comments on this topic should be Gold Box’d.
More MIT “Sport Death” action—snips from the Boston Herald back in 2005:
A Harvard-hosted blog post touching on elite Yankee rive gauche drug history:
If you can get into any university, go to an Ivy league university. Make sure to major in something non-engineering, such as economics or business. Ivy League classes are extremely easy to get good grades in. Then once you graduate, you can go onto a very lucrative career in finance (investment banking, asset management, private equity, hedge funds, sales&trading), corporate strategy, or management consulting. Those careers don't even require much in IQ or ability, but pay REALLY well. Hours are long though.
There are lots of intellectually medicore Ivy kids making 100-150K/yr on Wall Street at age 22. If they're adept at office politics, some of these people end up becoming millionaires by their 30s.Replies: @AnonCow, @Maj. Kong, @Anonymous, @Difference Maker, @mukat, @anon, @Kaz, @Karl
Not so much. The idea that the ivy league will make you wealthy is a lot like the idea a ten or twenty years ago that Law School will make you rich. First, you have to actually work. Secondly, it only really matters if the BA is a terminal degree.
There are certain kinds of jobs where it can help. A lot, I’m sure. It can help in sales to rich people — Wealth Management/Family Office sorts of jobs.
But when you start off with top 1% brain power and well to do family background, how much does this really matter?
I worked for a couple of years for a large, multi-national with a prestigious training program. Their ideal candidate was a Big 10 engineering degree/top 10% of class/good personal skills. Never met anyone from Ivies, but did from Sorbourne. They worked em like dogs for a couple of years and triaged the top annually for a couple of years. Of course, leaving the program wasn’t considered a negative and they always ended up with a better job inside or outside.
That is, if you're highly qualified, they won't deny you, but if you're underqualified, and belong to the favored group, you will likely get a hand up due to "professional minority courtesy." If you're both equal, they're more give it to their favored minority.
When you belong to whichever minority group, you speak the same "shorthand" that an outsider will never fully grasp. Mark Maron has repeatedly said on his podcast that he feels far more comfortable with jewish interviewee's because they just "understand" each other in a way that goyim can't approach.
Fairly recently, he even said that some of his jewish friends have been telling him to knock that shit off–by that they meant constantly repeating it, or implying it on the air.
I've noticed he has stopped saying it, but you can tell he brightens up measurably, and certainly behaves more "jewey" when interviewing to his jewish brethren, despite the fact that he's not a practicing jew, and grew up in New Mexico!
He just likes jews... better than youse!
I expect this runs across all minority lines to a significant degree.
In another 10 years, Superman will look like Jerry Seinfeld.Replies: @bomag, @MarcB.
“I’ve noticed he has stopped saying it, but you can tell he brightens up measurably, and certainly behaves more “jewey” when interviewing to his jewish brethren”.
My wife and I will listen just to hear how Jewey he’ll get during his mind-melds with members of the tribe/entertainment community. It’s a predictable option because they (less than 2% of the US population) just happen make up 70% of his interviewees.
I liked him more on Air America as a counterbalance to the overly earnest sanctimony of Jeanne Garafalo. My favorite WTF show was the episode following the 2016 presidential election, where he stammered, sputtered and kvetched through a diatribe delivered by a man sending out an SOS to his comrades while desperately searching for his bug-out bag.
I’m sure there’s a “going through the backdoor” joke you could make here…
What is your evaluation of the prospect of getting into the trough after college. And what of MBAs
I have some ability to get in good with people, but will have to learn to hide my hostility, lol!
Btw there are still niches to exploit other than financeReplies: @anon
Difference Maker ….
The thing with any sort of technically based field is that they need managers and a lot of managerial jobs require subject matter expertise. The result being that there is the potential for rapid movement either up with your company, move to a better company/job, or slide into consulting.
My advice would be to:
1. Get a job in any company that is growing rapidly.
2. Get a job in a company that is failing. These are great fun for the new people.
3. Selling technical or specialized things or services that are very expensive and have an associated commission — either directly or indirectly — let you get paid for your efforts.
There is also stuff that doesn’t fit well with traditional academic silos. Logistics, for example. And there are always small, software verticals. A lot of it can’t be easily scaled and gross margins are always very high.
That must have been a supernova of woke.
Only the rage of a RanXerox will be able to liberate us.
More MIT “Sport Death” action—snips from the Boston Herald back in 2005:A Harvard-hosted blog post touching on elite Yankee rive gauche drug history:Replies: @Ivy
Great, now there will be mutant gerbils escaping the ranch and joining those large rats and alligators in the sewers.
Can you elaborate please?
This seems relevant to the thread: http://mitguidetoresidences.mit.edu/map/senior-houseReplies: @Alice
Chocolate city was the name for parts of Crafts (and possibly Nichols) that the black kids lived in. Those were names of two of the entries in Senior House, back before the series of renovations removed the brownstone-like 6 staircase system. Chocolate city was in Crafts from the late 80s through at least 96, but maybe 98. I don’t know how early it began. Lots of Sr Haus was closed at various points for renovations and eventually the staircase system was totally obliterated (early renovations created other odd “suites” and apartments to accommodate fire code) and maybe that was obstensibly why/how it moved. I don’t know when you first were able to request it as a living arrangement (before, you’d request Sr Haus and then once assigned there was the internal Sr Haus assignment system..
The thing with any sort of technically based field is that they need managers and a lot of managerial jobs require subject matter expertise. The result being that there is the potential for rapid movement either up with your company, move to a better company/job, or slide into consulting.
My advice would be to:
1. Get a job in any company that is growing rapidly.
2. Get a job in a company that is failing. These are great fun for the new people.
3. Selling technical or specialized things or services that are very expensive and have an associated commission -- either directly or indirectly -- let you get paid for your efforts.
There is also stuff that doesn't fit well with traditional academic silos. Logistics, for example. And there are always small, software verticals. A lot of it can't be easily scaled and gross margins are always very high.Replies: @Steve Sailer
A decent career path is to get a technical degree, then go to work for a big institution that buys extremely expensive capital goods, like turbines or whatever, then after a few years of learning the needs of the big buyer, go to work for a company that sells the expensive stuff.
On the flip side, I am familiar with a couple of humanities departments that have hired gay males exclusively for faculty positions for about five years. At least half the faculty in both departments fit that description now. It's hard to believe that some kind of informal networking is not at work.Replies: @Undocumented Shopper
Since the standards are intentionally vague (“holistic”,) homos can easily make up an excuse in order to justify rejecting a heterosexual candidate. Supposedly that’s how they dominated some Catholic seminaries.
Speaking of the Catholic Church, I was told by a well informed source that in 2013 the administrators of Saint John’s Seminary (in Archdiocese of Boston) hired a private investigator in order to identify homos (one of them was easy to identify since he got caught making love in the parking lot) and carried out a Night Of Long Knives by expelling all five of them. I’m surprised they had the will to pull it off. I pretty much wrote the Church off, perhaps I was wrong?
But the nature of STEM courses also works against adopting the prob/liberal narrative. STEM courses deal with what works. Do your Thermo answers work? Do your Linear Algebra proofs work? Can you work out those solutions in a step-by-step path, in a logical path? Whereas, adopting the prog/liberal narrative merely involves memorizing a catechism of sorts. While logic is needed to solve STEM problems, logic is not necessary in adopting the prog/liberal narrative.
Even so, the prog/liberal narrative has made inroads into the STEM community.Replies: @Alice
I think the reason is because of what Hayek named Fatal Conceit.
many of these same people think (and say out loud) “I’m so smart and I wouldn’t make any mistakes. If people like me ran things, we’d have fixed everything.”
So they adopted the liberal narrative because they believe they are the Chosen Ones and they’ll be running this lib/prog system soon. Better then letting those mouth breathers have a say.
also another case of who/whom. Bright kids escaping the rural world for the towers of academia aren’t looking to identify with what they left behind. Kids from liberal enclaves already know how to play the game. Easy to identify with the dominant cultural liberal positions so you are accepted into the fold.
Last reason, nerd betas still want to date. They seem to think saying out loud they are pro Palestine and pro whale will help.
Alice, you’ve been at MIT more recently than I have, and I am willing to accept that your perceptions may be more accurate, but I was Course XVIII and I can tell you that the math majors were certainly not particularly gay in the 80s and 90s. What characterized math majors was an unusual combination of very friendly and pleasant personalities and zero tolerance for bullshit, and most of them, while mild in affect, were distinctly heterosexual. This was true for the faculty, too.
yesterday I was in Macy’s, trying on clothes. The sound system is blaring some fashionable rock station meant to make you want to spend money. Anyway, after a song there comes on a PSA about LGBTQ youth and how Macy’s supports them. Say what? Yeah, and they said the whole alphabet soup. total indoctrination and recruitment spewing straight into every shopper there. Would they have PSA’s about unemployed youth? Obese youth? Drug overdoses? Those who have learning disabilities? Nope. the only youth they cared about are alphabet soup types who struggle in their teen years.
Good for you for staying celibate and well-behaved. And I hope sober too.
Re hard classes, I believe the intro to physics is available in four levels of difficulty. One of these classes is the same as a harder one but is spread out over a longer period (thus making it easier). The school notes that the easier version appears the same as the harder version on the transcript.Replies: @Jack D
The # of undergrad degrees granted by these depts. is tiny. The vast majority of MIT undergrad degrees are in STEM subjects.
Yes, the goal of the MIT rebooting Sr Haus is to lower the disproportionate sjwness in the place.
MIT has been filled with SJW deans for decades. They've been forcing incoming freshmen to read SJW books over the summer since the 80s. They've made them watch plays and have discussion groups about date rape since the 90s. They've been handing them books like Our Bodies Ourselves, pro abortion, pro radical gay agenda books pretending to be anatomy texts.
They have living arrangements that segregated blacks since maybe the 70s. (Part of Sr Haus was called Chocolate City, and if you were black and lives in different part of Sr Haus, something was wrong with you. But their graduation rate might have been higher than 60%...)
Their admissions departments have been screwing certain minorities for decades as well. MIT brings in black and Hispanic kids with average SAT math scores below 700. These kids are completely outclassed compares to their foreign or asian counterparts' knowledge and the deficit can't be made up. It's a lot easier to get high. And MIT doesn't do anything to kick kids out, but keeps them in, floundering.
Lots of white kids in Sr Haus had the same problems. It's difficult to find out you're not as intellectually gifted as you thought, or worse, you are but you're untrained for hard work and for studying. It's an empty feeling. And MIT kids resort to heavy drinking and drugs routinely to make that feeling go away.
And as the SJWs admins gained more control at MIT, and encouraged more SJWness, those students who felt victimized by MIT (and we're) increasingly segregated themselves into the dorms that had more "tolerance" -- tolerance means more drugs, more out of control behavior.
But it wasn't just SJWers. A bunch of libertarians lived there too. Equally lonely and unhinged, the natural selection and population drift led Sr Haus to have more people susceptible to the negatives of drugs and to the general despair of the place. MIT is a difficult place if all of your neighbors don't go to classes.
LSD was a big problem at Sr Haus. Residents died from taking it and their following actions. Other residents has psychotic episodes. Residents died of heroin overdoses. Other residents has serious crack cocaine habits. Violence was a problem. Vandalism, assault, walls broken, furniture smashed by being thrown out the windows. Feral behavior was normalized there.
SR Haus was disproportionately non-engineering. Lots of math, physics, comp sci, chem majors. And lots of humanities majors who'd dropped out of the harder science and engineering ones.
Mathematics is another discipline now with a very high percentage of gay men. I believe this is because men who would otherwise be hetero but betas are in math. Math is cerebral, nonemotional. Anxious betas are often groomed from HS on by gays in math ed or mathematics. So some of these disproportionate living arrangements are knock on effects to the majors they pick. Lots of men on the gay scene are heavily into drugs, and maybe need the drugs to express these tendencies.
Sr Haus was closed to freshmen this past year. That was a morally good move, period. Barnhart was right. I'm not sure they can manage a new application process. Who would move in that wasn't the prior type?Replies: @res, @Difference Maker, @Jack D
I agree with the general tenor of your remarks but I’m not sure about the deaths. Usually deaths get reported in the press. Can you provide links to press reports of any deaths of SR Haus residents while enrolled at MIT?
Also, regarding humanities majors, there just aren’t that many at MIT period. The school of Humanities awards maybe 40 undergrad degrees/year and some of those are in relatively solid areas such as economics.
http://web.mit.edu/registrar/stats/degrees/index.html
What is your connection with MIT, without giving away personal details?
I think the Manosphere has a name for it:
“Shit test”
https://illimitablemen.com/2014/12/14/the-shit-test-encyclopedia/
http://tech.mit.edu/V110/N30/death.30n.html
http://tech.mit.edu/V111/N28/obit1.28n.html
http://tech.mit.edu/V115/N16/finley.16n.html
If you can get into any university, go to an Ivy league university. Make sure to major in something non-engineering, such as economics or business. Ivy League classes are extremely easy to get good grades in. Then once you graduate, you can go onto a very lucrative career in finance (investment banking, asset management, private equity, hedge funds, sales&trading), corporate strategy, or management consulting. Those careers don't even require much in IQ or ability, but pay REALLY well. Hours are long though.
There are lots of intellectually medicore Ivy kids making 100-150K/yr on Wall Street at age 22. If they're adept at office politics, some of these people end up becoming millionaires by their 30s.Replies: @AnonCow, @Maj. Kong, @Anonymous, @Difference Maker, @mukat, @anon, @Kaz, @Karl
You start at around ~80-100k for high finance jobs on Wall Street and you’re busting your ass 80 hour/weeks doing intense grunt analytical work for the first few years. It’s not a light job. But after a few years you can make 200k+ (with bonuses) before you hit 30.
Consulting is no snooze either especially the prestigious firms..
I think people overstate the magic of Ivy league schools, many people get in because they’re hard workers that are extremely sharp, and many of them go on to careers that demand a lot. These people would have likely done well otherwise.
There are plenty of ‘losers’ that graduate and make mediocre 60k salaries in non profits but can afford it because their parents are rich.
I’m not sure what the breakout is though.
Intellectually mediocre kids from Ivy league go into bullshit positions like tech evangelist or diversity management, not high finance or consulting.
Ancient Greek dudes had the hots for prepubescent boys.
Ancient Romans spent weekends enjoying nuru massages from slave-boys.
Ancient Persians enthusiastically adopted pederasty from their Greek frenemies.Fuck! They even had an island called Lesbos over there in Wewuzkangzistan.We should treat this article as an encouraging development.
For this means that the Yamnaya folks are going back to Teh 'Ole Days.Any day now, I mean like any day, metrosexual cuck pussy-whipped house-husband panty-wearing dry-breast-feeding Swedish dudes will become Berserker Vikings once more, and kick out teh Mooz and teh Coonz, and re-establish their eternal historical status as world conquerors and invincible invaders.Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @Yak-15
From your lips to God’s ears … I think…. wait, what was the middle part again?
Elite colleges skew Asian. Asians commit suicide at slightly higher rates that the other races (though American white males are coming up fast).
Elite tech colleges skew male. Males commit suicide at almost four times the rate of females.
Kids kill themselves over the C in an engineering/pre-med/CS course that kept them out of the grad program they wanted. Nobody kills themselves over a C in Gender Studies. The entire litany of the insanity being displayed at Mizzou, Everqueen State, Berzerkley, Middlebury, etc., are proof of the mental health of the average college student in the 21st Century being, for the most part, externalized.
The important question is just how many people Michelle Carter has on her text list!
Ancient Greek dudes had the hots for prepubescent boys.
Ancient Romans spent weekends enjoying nuru massages from slave-boys.
Ancient Persians enthusiastically adopted pederasty from their Greek frenemies.Fuck! They even had an island called Lesbos over there in Wewuzkangzistan.We should treat this article as an encouraging development.
For this means that the Yamnaya folks are going back to Teh 'Ole Days.Any day now, I mean like any day, metrosexual cuck pussy-whipped house-husband panty-wearing dry-breast-feeding Swedish dudes will become Berserker Vikings once more, and kick out teh Mooz and teh Coonz, and re-establish their eternal historical status as world conquerors and invincible invaders.Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @Yak-15
I believe you’re on the wrong website.
Not too many Catholic Jews.
Good for you for staying celibate and well-behaved. And I hope sober too.Replies: @A Frequent Commenter
Thanks. I don’t use drugs or drink.
One worry with the LGBT youths is that they are raised within a culture that equates victimhood with sanctity and that dismisses the idea of the elevation of the soul. That worry extends to normal youths.
LGBT youths will have to avoid the effeminate and anodyne culture of clickbaity victimhood as well as the down-and-out culture of perverse risk-taking and degradation (the nostalgie de la boue?). The former is bourgeois and soul-deadening. The latter is misguided and physically destructive. These are, likewise, problems for normal youths.
Personally, I pray to Christ for all the children. The corporations that encourage these misbehaviors wish to seem benevolent in the eyes of their mostly female consumer base and thereby secure their patronage. But they are, I believe, simply preparing their own necks for the millstone.
In 1945, Evelyn Waugh got at something of the joys of the lifestyle when he described the time Charles Ryder and Sebastian Flyte spent together (though I think the homosexuality of those characters is often exaggerated): “its toys were silk shirts and liqueurs and cigars and its naughtiness high in the catalogue of grave sins, there was something of nursery freshness about us that fell little short of the joy of innocence.” But only 10 years afterwards, Ginsberg published Howl, which lacked joy, innocence, and cigars.
Whatever the joys of homosexuality, that book doesn't describe them. It was alcoholism, loneliness and divorce that consumed everybody's lives. The only truly queer character, Anthony, is last seen in an underground bar buying drinks for lost boys. It conjures up images of nasty diseases and early death for me. Allen Ginsburg indeed.
As to the youths in our degraded culture, I just think about Matthew 18:6 and the responsibility of those who would pervert them.Replies: @A Frequent Commenter
http://tech.mit.edu/V111/N28/obit1.28n.html
http://tech.mit.edu/V115/N16/finley.16n.htmlReplies: @Jack D
These are ancient history – literally a generation ago. Today’s Senior House residents could be the children of the deceased (if they had lived).
Long time reader, first time commenter … I was an undergrad at MIT in the early 2000s, and Steve’s article and the comment thread are really missing the dynamic here.
Senior Haus was not a hotbed of minorities and LGBT SJWs who were too dumb for MIT. Black students tended to live in either Chocolate City (in New House, all the way across campus) or in frats. There weren’t very many black students in Senior Haus when I was there. There were some LGBT people in Senior Haus but LGBT students were scattered all around the campus. When I was at MIT there was a famous student named Aimee Smith who was sort of the SJW to end all SJWs … she was such a psycho zealot that she was strangely admirable. She would not have been caught dead at Senior Haus.
Nor was Senior Haus necessarily a destination for the weird kids. If you were weird, you would probably go to E.C., Random, or Bexley, or a “frat”/independent living group like TEP or Pika. I think that what we’d now call “SJWs” would have been most likely to be at a place like Pika or Epsilon Theta.
Senior Haus was the place for drugs. That’s what it was known for. (That and a wing composed largely of Bulgarian kids. They didn’t use many drugs.) Senior Haus residents openly gave out cigarettes during rush and freshmen would start using drugs 2 weeks into freshman year. When I was a freshman I wouldn’t have been caught dead walking into Senior Haus. Eventually I made some friends there and started hanging out more often. The drug use was formidable. LSD was popular at the time, as well as weird drugs like 2C-B and Foxy a/k/a Incorrect. Salvia was a thing among some students. Lots of people used cocaine although that was also in West Campus. I never knew anyone who used heroin but I am sure that some did.
There were some very interesting and cool people at Senior Haus. I liked many of the people a lot. But there were also interesting and cool people at E.C. and other places as well, who didn’t want to be around the drugs. I haven’t been back to MIT for years, but I assume that things degenerated and the administration had had enough.
By the way, I think MIT’s attitude toward dorms aligns perfectly with the iSteve philosophy and I am surprised to see people criticize it. The basic insight at MIT was that randomly mixing people with radically different world views and interests was unlikely to work, which is one of Steve’s organizing principles. MIT had mildly fratty types, studious loners, video-game loving Asians, extreme computer geeks, weird kids, etc. During rush, you found the group of people who were like you and moved in. It worked very well. People loved their living groups and were loyal to them. If you weren’t happy you could move, but most people were happy.
Senior Haus reflected a libertarian philosophy that people would be allowed to fail. There were some insanely smart people at Senior Haus who balanced LSD use with a perfect GPA and incredible hacking skills. There were also many people at Senior Haus who were screwed up and probably would have been better off getting B’s at McGregor. For a certain type of highly-skilled, strong-willed person, Senior Haus was a perfect place to live, and I’m surprised, and impressed, that MIT allowed it to go on for so long.
But, the average person, even the average MIT student, is NOT a highly-skilled, strong-willed person. This is why we don't allow dangerous drugs to be freely distributed.Replies: @Lagertha
In the last 12 years, probably more, MIT caved to the mainstream higher ed bs…however, I wasn’t aware of the college-applicant-atrophy when my sons were still playing with Yugioh Cards/Magic the Gathering.
Sorry to say that MIT has joined (about 10 years ago) the deterioration of the once, important standards that built the 19th and 20th century. Caltech, thank goodness, still doesn’t give a damn about social justice for those fuzzy, or completely indefensible reasons. In fact, Caltech…and some 2nd-tier tech schools are now the vanguard of accepting “only the best and the brightest (Brilliant, 🙂 ).”
I’m kinda’ loving this….MIT sold its soul about 12 years ago to the bs “inclusive” nonsense, as did the Ivies, and the Ivy wannabees…at the expense of true innovation and excellence. Check it out: the remedial courses (taught by low-paid adjuncts…shhhhhhh) at the Ivies & MIT & other formerly distinguished institutions, are hidden from the public.
Senior Haus was not a hotbed of minorities and LGBT SJWs who were too dumb for MIT. Black students tended to live in either Chocolate City (in New House, all the way across campus) or in frats. There weren't very many black students in Senior Haus when I was there. There were some LGBT people in Senior Haus but LGBT students were scattered all around the campus. When I was at MIT there was a famous student named Aimee Smith who was sort of the SJW to end all SJWs ... she was such a psycho zealot that she was strangely admirable. She would not have been caught dead at Senior Haus.
Nor was Senior Haus necessarily a destination for the weird kids. If you were weird, you would probably go to E.C., Random, or Bexley, or a "frat"/independent living group like TEP or Pika. I think that what we'd now call "SJWs" would have been most likely to be at a place like Pika or Epsilon Theta.
Senior Haus was the place for drugs. That's what it was known for. (That and a wing composed largely of Bulgarian kids. They didn't use many drugs.) Senior Haus residents openly gave out cigarettes during rush and freshmen would start using drugs 2 weeks into freshman year. When I was a freshman I wouldn't have been caught dead walking into Senior Haus. Eventually I made some friends there and started hanging out more often. The drug use was formidable. LSD was popular at the time, as well as weird drugs like 2C-B and Foxy a/k/a Incorrect. Salvia was a thing among some students. Lots of people used cocaine although that was also in West Campus. I never knew anyone who used heroin but I am sure that some did.
There were some very interesting and cool people at Senior Haus. I liked many of the people a lot. But there were also interesting and cool people at E.C. and other places as well, who didn't want to be around the drugs. I haven't been back to MIT for years, but I assume that things degenerated and the administration had had enough.
By the way, I think MIT's attitude toward dorms aligns perfectly with the iSteve philosophy and I am surprised to see people criticize it. The basic insight at MIT was that randomly mixing people with radically different world views and interests was unlikely to work, which is one of Steve's organizing principles. MIT had mildly fratty types, studious loners, video-game loving Asians, extreme computer geeks, weird kids, etc. During rush, you found the group of people who were like you and moved in. It worked very well. People loved their living groups and were loyal to them. If you weren't happy you could move, but most people were happy.
Senior Haus reflected a libertarian philosophy that people would be allowed to fail. There were some insanely smart people at Senior Haus who balanced LSD use with a perfect GPA and incredible hacking skills. There were also many people at Senior Haus who were screwed up and probably would have been better off getting B's at McGregor. For a certain type of highly-skilled, strong-willed person, Senior Haus was a perfect place to live, and I'm surprised, and impressed, that MIT allowed it to go on for so long.Replies: @Jack D, @Difference Maker
If you are a highly-skilled, strong-willed person, they could put you on the moon and you would thrive. During WWII, my late uncle was deported to a collective farm in Kazakhstan and within a couple of years, he was the right hand man of the nachalnik of the kolkhoz. Later he came to America and became a millionaire. All this with a 4th grade education.
But, the average person, even the average MIT student, is NOT a highly-skilled, strong-willed person. This is why we don’t allow dangerous drugs to be freely distributed.
haha! Love your post…but, I’m not sure you wanted anyone to respond to your point. It’s killing me to not admit my connection to MIT ( I divulge too much stuff, as everyone here, knows). MIT is just, eh, mainstream, now. They bought into the whole “diversity” stuff; have had no “winners”…and, they are so annoyed that Caltech didn’t lower their acceptance threshold along with some other tech institutes – all schools that MIT (and Stanford) think are lower tier. However, lower tier means $$$ when these, mostly boys, bring in the brilliance and the prestige.
But, the average person, even the average MIT student, is NOT a highly-skilled, strong-willed person. This is why we don't allow dangerous drugs to be freely distributed.Replies: @Lagertha
Jack D…you just slayed it. I hate the idea of prestige…..the sooner Ivy leaguers and MITes realize that prestige is, eh, nothing, the better. We need true strength, now, all the time. Angst is so over rated and over-indulged for the last 40 years. Survival should become a mantra. And, I expect only greatness and the most brilliant minds, for survival, and solving the confusing conflicts of MENA, from MIT grads…otherwise, maybe you should not have been accepted at MIT in the first place.
If you can get into any university, go to an Ivy league university. Make sure to major in something non-engineering, such as economics or business. Ivy League classes are extremely easy to get good grades in. Then once you graduate, you can go onto a very lucrative career in finance (investment banking, asset management, private equity, hedge funds, sales&trading), corporate strategy, or management consulting. Those careers don't even require much in IQ or ability, but pay REALLY well. Hours are long though.
There are lots of intellectually medicore Ivy kids making 100-150K/yr on Wall Street at age 22. If they're adept at office politics, some of these people end up becoming millionaires by their 30s.Replies: @AnonCow, @Maj. Kong, @Anonymous, @Difference Maker, @mukat, @anon, @Kaz, @Karl
7 JohnyWalker 123 > There are lots of intellectually medicore Ivy kids making 100-150K/yr on Wall Street at age 22
If you have to live within commuting distance of Lower Manhattan, $150K doesn’t buy you the lifestyle it would in Tennessee
You would have to save for a year just to afford a basic nose job, which you’re gonna need if you want to “Get Laid In Manhattan While Being a Quant Graduate” who wasn’t able to get his college girlfriend a job in NYC.
Senior Haus was not a hotbed of minorities and LGBT SJWs who were too dumb for MIT. Black students tended to live in either Chocolate City (in New House, all the way across campus) or in frats. There weren't very many black students in Senior Haus when I was there. There were some LGBT people in Senior Haus but LGBT students were scattered all around the campus. When I was at MIT there was a famous student named Aimee Smith who was sort of the SJW to end all SJWs ... she was such a psycho zealot that she was strangely admirable. She would not have been caught dead at Senior Haus.
Nor was Senior Haus necessarily a destination for the weird kids. If you were weird, you would probably go to E.C., Random, or Bexley, or a "frat"/independent living group like TEP or Pika. I think that what we'd now call "SJWs" would have been most likely to be at a place like Pika or Epsilon Theta.
Senior Haus was the place for drugs. That's what it was known for. (That and a wing composed largely of Bulgarian kids. They didn't use many drugs.) Senior Haus residents openly gave out cigarettes during rush and freshmen would start using drugs 2 weeks into freshman year. When I was a freshman I wouldn't have been caught dead walking into Senior Haus. Eventually I made some friends there and started hanging out more often. The drug use was formidable. LSD was popular at the time, as well as weird drugs like 2C-B and Foxy a/k/a Incorrect. Salvia was a thing among some students. Lots of people used cocaine although that was also in West Campus. I never knew anyone who used heroin but I am sure that some did.
There were some very interesting and cool people at Senior Haus. I liked many of the people a lot. But there were also interesting and cool people at E.C. and other places as well, who didn't want to be around the drugs. I haven't been back to MIT for years, but I assume that things degenerated and the administration had had enough.
By the way, I think MIT's attitude toward dorms aligns perfectly with the iSteve philosophy and I am surprised to see people criticize it. The basic insight at MIT was that randomly mixing people with radically different world views and interests was unlikely to work, which is one of Steve's organizing principles. MIT had mildly fratty types, studious loners, video-game loving Asians, extreme computer geeks, weird kids, etc. During rush, you found the group of people who were like you and moved in. It worked very well. People loved their living groups and were loyal to them. If you weren't happy you could move, but most people were happy.
Senior Haus reflected a libertarian philosophy that people would be allowed to fail. There were some insanely smart people at Senior Haus who balanced LSD use with a perfect GPA and incredible hacking skills. There were also many people at Senior Haus who were screwed up and probably would have been better off getting B's at McGregor. For a certain type of highly-skilled, strong-willed person, Senior Haus was a perfect place to live, and I'm surprised, and impressed, that MIT allowed it to go on for so long.Replies: @Jack D, @Difference Maker
Well, you know.. low dose LSD is purported to be a mental stimulant
many of these same people think (and say out loud) "I'm so smart and I wouldn't make any mistakes. If people like me ran things, we'd have fixed everything."
So they adopted the liberal narrative because they believe they are the Chosen Ones and they'll be running this lib/prog system soon. Better then letting those mouth breathers have a say.
also another case of who/whom. Bright kids escaping the rural world for the towers of academia aren't looking to identify with what they left behind. Kids from liberal enclaves already know how to play the game. Easy to identify with the dominant cultural liberal positions so you are accepted into the fold.
Last reason, nerd betas still want to date. They seem to think saying out loud they are pro Palestine and pro whale will help.Replies: @guest
Hayek’s “fatal conceit,” as I recall, is the idea that society can or should be ordered rationally. That holds no matter how smart you are. A collection of the greatest minds who ever lived, according to Hayek’s thinking, wouldn’t be able to pull it off. Not without turning society into a nightmare.
MIT has been kind of self-conscious about mental health ever since a student lit herself on fire and then her parents sued the university for not stopping her.
Still, universities aren’t actually parents and there isn’t a whole lot they can do about students going crazy.
Senior Haus definitely attracts an… eclectic mix of students, but it also has a long history of drug dealing/using: http://tech.mit.edu/V111/N1/howitt.01n.html see also: https://krassy101.wordpress.com/tag/senior-house/
The dorm’s a liability and the students involved might be genuinely better off not living with each other.
On the other hand, there’s nothing to stop them from doing the same things while living in other dorms.
No, we’re not.
Some of us are more stoicer* about our failures than others, but most of us are simply too dim to comprehend the magnitude of our unworthiness.
*That is how you say that, right? I could look it up, but I’m feeling lazy this morning. Stoic … stoicer … stoicerest … sounds right to me. Yeah, that’s it. Some of us are stoicerester than others.
You may now crack open a cold one.Replies: @Stan Adams
wow, I just finished reading Brideshead this morning and here is someone quoting it. Well, I don’t understand that sentence phrase: “there was something of nursery freshness about us that fell little short of the joy of innocence.” Does that mean they were joyfully innocent or not? Or are they just profoundly immature? Remember, Sebastian becomes a drunk deliberately.
Whatever the joys of homosexuality, that book doesn’t describe them. It was alcoholism, loneliness and divorce that consumed everybody’s lives. The only truly queer character, Anthony, is last seen in an underground bar buying drinks for lost boys. It conjures up images of nasty diseases and early death for me. Allen Ginsburg indeed.
As to the youths in our degraded culture, I just think about Matthew 18:6 and the responsibility of those who would pervert them.
The " lifestyle" to which I referred is not the homosexual lifestyle in the modern sense, but rather the lifestyle of someone like Michelangelo or Da Vinci (possibly): men who are unfortunate enough to be born with certain disordered passions who must struggle to ennoble them in some way. That ennoblement reaches its highest expression in true friendship, I believe. But prior to that highest expression are less noble expressions, such as friendships of delight. Sebastian & Charles's friendship was an example of such a friendship that can, at the best of times, lead to those true friendships. Though I wouldn't describe Charles, at least, as a homosexual, his experiences are somewhat consonant with those of a homosexual.Replies: @guest
I, Ickham of Errican, hereby elevate thee to Earl of Stoicerester.
You may now crack open a cold one.
You may now crack open a cold one.Replies: @Stan Adams
It tastes like victory.
Speaking of taste, I have an idea.
I, the Earl of Stoiceresterwich, hereby declare that, henceforth, a dish made of meat and/or cheese and/or vegetables served between two (2) slices of bread shall be known as a stoiceresterwich. Furthermore, I decree that the term stoiceresterwich is my trademark. Anyone who sells a Stoiceresterwich(TM) for profit shall pay me a duty of twenty (20) percent of the purchase price or two (2) American dollars, whichever is higher. Failure to pay this duty shall result in grave bodily harm.
So let it be written. So let it be done.
(Note that I stealthily added the -wich to my title. Sneaky, huh?)
If Montague takes offense, propriety calls for a duel… yet instead of the unhappy shedding of bloode, I propose a contest—a Devouring of Victuals; weighths of “wiches” piled high, the victor engorging the most without reflexly retching.
Balk not at the vulgarity of such a spectacle—I predict much mirth and merriment to be had by all!
Whatever the joys of homosexuality, that book doesn't describe them. It was alcoholism, loneliness and divorce that consumed everybody's lives. The only truly queer character, Anthony, is last seen in an underground bar buying drinks for lost boys. It conjures up images of nasty diseases and early death for me. Allen Ginsburg indeed.
As to the youths in our degraded culture, I just think about Matthew 18:6 and the responsibility of those who would pervert them.Replies: @A Frequent Commenter
I read it as saying that Sebastian & Charles didn’t exactly have a joyful innocence in their friendship, but that they got something “like unto” the best parts of innocence within that friendship, or maybe that they got a simulacrum of the best parts of innocence in their friendship. I think “profoundly immature” is an apt description of them, but in the sense of “through immaturity stumbling on something profound”. They discovered something like the joys of childhood together even though they weren’t really children. This was (possibly) compensatory for Charles, since he didn’t have a very lovely childhood. As for Sebastian, he was (possibly) reacting to his father leaving family/faith and the complicated effect that his mother’s piety (religiosity?) had on the family dynamic (e.g., driving the father to leave). The difference between the two is that Charles realized that the pleasures of childhood are a passing thing, however delightful in their time, whereas Sebastian seemed to want to recreate those joys of childhood in more&more spiritually degraded ways as time went on (e.g. Kurt).
The ” lifestyle” to which I referred is not the homosexual lifestyle in the modern sense, but rather the lifestyle of someone like Michelangelo or Da Vinci (possibly): men who are unfortunate enough to be born with certain disordered passions who must struggle to ennoble them in some way. That ennoblement reaches its highest expression in true friendship, I believe. But prior to that highest expression are less noble expressions, such as friendships of delight. Sebastian & Charles’s friendship was an example of such a friendship that can, at the best of times, lead to those true friendships. Though I wouldn’t describe Charles, at least, as a homosexual, his experiences are somewhat consonant with those of a homosexual.
’Tis a robust devising in all the seeming, mayhap a certain Eleventh Earl may not look kindly upon such a claim.
If Montague takes offense, propriety calls for a duel… yet instead of the unhappy shedding of bloode, I propose a contest—a Devouring of Victuals; weighths of “wiches” piled high, the victor engorging the most without reflexly retching.
Balk not at the vulgarity of such a spectacle—I predict much mirth and merriment to be had by all!
The " lifestyle" to which I referred is not the homosexual lifestyle in the modern sense, but rather the lifestyle of someone like Michelangelo or Da Vinci (possibly): men who are unfortunate enough to be born with certain disordered passions who must struggle to ennoble them in some way. That ennoblement reaches its highest expression in true friendship, I believe. But prior to that highest expression are less noble expressions, such as friendships of delight. Sebastian & Charles's friendship was an example of such a friendship that can, at the best of times, lead to those true friendships. Though I wouldn't describe Charles, at least, as a homosexual, his experiences are somewhat consonant with those of a homosexual.Replies: @guest
If I recall correctly, the mistress of Sebastian’s father says something about the quasi-homosexual friendship/love affairs of young Englishmen being a step on the path of their emotional development. They have these flings as a sort of preparation for mature romance. Which is true in Charles’ case. He goes on to marry, have children, and fall in love with Sebastian’s sister. Sebastian, on the other hand, is retarded in his growth and remains childish to the end.
Then there’s the matter of the world of Brideshead, which represents childhood to Sebastian obviously and is an Arcadia to Charles. He’s never experienced anything like it, and his quasi-romantic relationship with Sebastian is all tied up in his enchantment with the place. There’s something innocent about that, too.
Later, Brideshead figures into his love affair with Julia, when he fancies he might come to own it after the father names Julia his heir. But that’s much more of an adult situation, and lacks all the simple joys of youth and innocence. When the father converts on his deathbed, Julia becomes disgusted with the corruption of her and Charles’ relationship.
Which wasn’t like how his relationship with Sebastian ended. That stopped partly because Charles was lured away from intimacy with Sebastian by the family, which Sebastian predicted. But also because of Sebastian’s arrested development. They couldn’t remain together in Arcadia forever.
I was just watching the 1980s TV version. My simplistic take was that Sebastian was a proper gay while Charles was just dabbling.
I should have qualified.
I was talking about how blacks/gays are depicted in the media. And gays are very rarely black on TV.
What happens IRL as so often, is quite different to how things are depicted in the MSM.
Good summation.
I was just watching the 1980s TV version. My simplistic take was that Sebastian was a proper gay while Charles was just dabbling.