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Doctors were much respected throughout history, but there isn’t much evidence that, net, they cured more people than they killed before fairly late in the 19th Century. Then, suddenly, doctors were doing amazing things. Reading about the great medical heroes of the 20th Century is one of the more inspiring things you can do. There are an endless number of them.

For example, in Jared Diamond’s latest book he briefly mentions that his father as a distinguished medical researcher, which is why he went into medical research first, although he lacked the eye-hand coordination to be adept in the laboratory. So I looked up the 1999 NYT obituary of Louis Diamond, which called him “the father of pediatric hematology” and said that a transfusion technique he invented in 1946 has “saved the lives of hundreds of thousands of babies.”

Wow.

Or here’s the Wikipedia article on Sidney Farber, a founder of chemotherapy, who also turned out to be a great showman at promoting medical research. Up through WWII, cancer was such a depressing death sentence that almost nobody ever mentioned it in public. But in 1948 Farber got a kid with leukemia whose life he’d saved on Truth or Consequences and it caused a sensation, which Farber turned into a well-thought out push for more research funding.

Kids used to die quite often of leukemia, including a friend of mine in the early 1970s. But now they don’t anymore, due to 75 years of work.

But, almost all these giants were white men, so many people today feel oppressed by them. For example, Rod Dreher discovered a striking twitter thread of people denouncing Jeffrey Flier, the retired dean of the Harvard Medical School, for feeling sad that the Bornstein auditorium at one of America’s great research hospitals has been purged of portraits of heroes of medical sciences.

The pile-on in response is pretty amazing. For example:

On the whole, white men are hated today not for their sins but for their contributions.

After such knowledge, what forgiveness?

 
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  1. istevefan says:

    Why would this guy question if any Jews were in the portraits?

    Not only that – no fighters for justice, no one who worked in trenches, etc. Distinguished, but selective. One of biggest unrecognized problems we have now is rift between academia and practice, and magisterial portraits only reinforce it. Any Jews there, btw? @Paulflevy— Budd Shenkin (@BuddShenkin) April 13, 2019

    • LOL: Malcolm X-Lax
    • Replies: @El Dato
    @istevefan

    Because Jews make everything better!


    magisterial portraits only reinforce it
     
    Liberal Magical Thought in Action: Reality is controlled by wall decorations.

    When will the blackening of fundamental physics start?

    Replies: @Peter Johnson, @fish, @Thirdtwin

    , @Nachum
    @istevefan

    Isn't it obvious? To imply that anyone defending the portraits is an anti-Semite, and that no Jew (like Flier) should defend them.

    Odds are there were plenty of Jews up there, but who cares about facts?

  2. @istevefan
    Why would this guy question if any Jews were in the portraits?

    Not only that - no fighters for justice, no one who worked in trenches, etc. Distinguished, but selective. One of biggest unrecognized problems we have now is rift between academia and practice, and magisterial portraits only reinforce it. Any Jews there, btw? @Paulflevy— Budd Shenkin (@BuddShenkin) April 13, 2019
     

    Replies: @El Dato, @Nachum

    Because Jews make everything better!

    magisterial portraits only reinforce it

    Liberal Magical Thought in Action: Reality is controlled by wall decorations.

    When will the blackening of fundamental physics start?

    • Replies: @Peter Johnson
    @El Dato

    The blackening of theoretical physics has already begun, with Stanford leading the charge:

    https://www.campusreform.org/?ID=13615

    Replies: @bomag, @Mr. Anon, @MarkinLA

    , @fish
    @El Dato


    Liberal Magical Thought in Action: Reality is controlled by wall decorations.
     
    Stolen……!!
    , @Thirdtwin
    @El Dato

    "Liberal Magical Thought in Action: Reality is controlled by wall decorations."

    ...and African kitsch figurines.

  3. “The current generation of doctors does not resemble that old wall.”

    Quite so. They don’t resemble the portraits in any way. The current generation of doctors does /not/ have two eyes, a nose, and a mouth. They do not have ears, nor four limbs and a spinal column. Where are the beaks and tentacles? Where are the hideous wings? Where is the Cthulhu mouth-mask of undulating, semi-autonomous worm-things?

    Ohhhh… waaaiiit… /Now/ I get it. The current generation of doctors have a variety of skin-complexions, which means of course that they can have absolutely no intellectual, philosophical, ethical, or scientific connection to the guys with the other skin-tone.

    So, in other words, you’re a racist. Good to know!

    • Agree: NickG
    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @The Germ Theory of Disease


    “The current generation of doctors does not resemble that old wall.”
     
    No, it resembles an old wall in the Soviet Union:



    http://sputnikimages.com/images/0001/1148/64/000111486433_RIAN-ID-5502806.jpg
    , @Steve in Greensboro
    @The Germ Theory of Disease

    "You're a racist" he said. And that ended the discussion.

  4. “saved the lives of hundreds of thousands of babies.”

    I’m sure a few are biting the hands that saved them.

  5. No.

    They are hated purely and simply for being white *and* male.

    • Replies: @Sam Coulton
    @Anonymous

    No, it's just for being white males. "White" women aren't really white anyway, being in the same league with gypsies and other low-order nonwhites.

    Replies: @El Dato

    , @Anonymous
    @Anonymous

    Replacement theory.

    And it will, of course, rapidly devolve back into quackery and rackets. Walk em in send the bill to medicare who unquestioningly pays, rinse repeat. Like the old country except you can get rich !

    , @Kylie
    @Anonymous

    "They are hated purely and simply for being white *and* male."

    Wrong. They are hated for being white, male high achievers. The hatred is based on envy.

    Replies: @El Dato

  6. Not a very religious person, but this shows you why Envy is one of the 7 deadly sins.

    Instead of rejoicing at the achievements of others, which resulted in reduced suffering for so many people, Envy makes you want to denigrate and destroy those accomplishments because they were not yours.

    [MORE]

    Makes me very sad.

    • Replies: @dr kill
    @NJ Transit Commuter

    Envy is the most destructive emotional reaction possible, I'm certain it is the primary motivational driver in all human history, mostly with murderous consequences.

    Replies: @AnotherDad, @Peterike, @Days of Broken Arrows

  7. @El Dato
    @istevefan

    Because Jews make everything better!


    magisterial portraits only reinforce it
     
    Liberal Magical Thought in Action: Reality is controlled by wall decorations.

    When will the blackening of fundamental physics start?

    Replies: @Peter Johnson, @fish, @Thirdtwin

    The blackening of theoretical physics has already begun, with Stanford leading the charge:

    https://www.campusreform.org/?ID=13615

    • Replies: @bomag
    @Peter Johnson


    Other courses offered to bridge the supposed diversity problem at Stanford include two one-unit physics courses that address not physics itself, but rather concepts of diversity within the discipline.

    “Physics 94SI: Diverse Perspectives in Physics” is a seminar course in which “physics faculty members from diverse backgrounds share the story of their lives and careers.”

    Physics majors can earn academic credit by learning “what it is like to be a female professor” or “a faculty member raised first-generation/low income.” The course takes place “over lunch” and consists of a discussion of the “lives and career trajectories” of various “diverse” professors.

    A similar course, titled “Physics 93SI: Beyond the Laboratory: Physics, Identity and Society,” is led by students, rather than professors. In this course, physics majors can earn academic credit by generally exploring “issues of diversity and culture in physics,” by applying concepts such as “critical race theory.” An optional extension of the class allows students to receive additional credit for developing a workshop to teach high school students about “inclusion in science.”
     
    Knife, meet organ.

    Replies: @nokangaroos

    , @Mr. Anon
    @Peter Johnson

    Physics is fixing to become massively SJWized. The trade publications for APS and AIP are increasingly full of diversity-this, LGBT-that, inclusion-the-other. There have already been calls for what would be tantamount to quotas in hiring. Even the physical sciences will end up becoming just another academic grift.

    , @MarkinLA
    @Peter Johnson

    Stanford’s alternate version of this course, Physics 41E, boasts additional class time, as well as “learning assistants,” individuals with a “passion” for “education equity,” who are paid by the university to guide students through the difficult course.


    The first and most basic class in the science/engineering physics sequence and you are already talking about extensive hand holding of some students. Just what does Stanford think this is going to do? Will a light suddenly go off in one of these students head and string theory will suddenly seem like child's play? There is a reason why pre-meds are given tough introductory classes so that they drop out of the program quickly so as not to waste too much of their time. This will only postpone the day of reckoning for these students who will likely never get a degree in physics.

  8. it wouldn’t be 2019 without the snitty, useless, backtalking daughter attacking you and your legacy while taking full personal advantage of everything you and your ancestors worked on for hundreds of years.

    letting them vote. what a disaster that’s turned out to be. sometimes we have no worse enemy than overeducated suburban women.

    “Will trade racists for immigrants!” the harridan said.

    • Agree: bomag
    • Replies: @Mr McKenna
    @prime noticer

    Sometimes I think it's going to be fun watching this mess explode sky high.
    But only sometimes.

    Replies: @JR Ewing

    , @AnotherDad
    @prime noticer


    it wouldn’t be 2019 without the snitty, useless, backtalking daughter attacking you and your legacy while taking full personal advantage of everything you and your ancestors worked on for hundreds of years.

    letting them vote. what a disaster that’s turned out to be. sometimes we have no worse enemy than overeducated suburban women.

    “Will trade racists for immigrants!” the harridan said.
     
    Patriarchy is not sufficient, but necessary for civilization.

    Pointed out before: the geographic nation state is a great innovation, if you can draw reasonable "one people" borders around it. But it does suffer this "now these people are our problem" problem. I.e. what you want is to be able to toss people out. Or in other words, you have a bunch of people who are "not with the program" and they screw it up for everyone else.

    I'm convinced that given "evolutionary time" there would be a state--populated by a civilized race--that would again figure out republican patriarchy--this time with a harder ideological "we're going to keep this" edge. (Voting would be by responsible self-supporting, married men with children--that sort of deal.) That nation state would be so much better run than others, it would clean up.

    It would be great if America had maintained some real federalism as it might be possible to get such recovery in the US context providing a lesson for others. (That was the original design.) But federalism is gone.

    My bet is we're going to run into the technological buzz saw--automation revolution, bio-weapons, DNA manipulation--that is going to be a game changer, before we see recovery. But if we don't the winner will be whatever civilized people recovery a modern patriarchy.

    Replies: @Corvinus

  9. Lydia is so woke, she must be inked as well:

    • Replies: @Father O'Hara
    @Reg Cæsar

    Thanks for this wonderful Marxism. Women named Lydia should be avoided. They are never normal.
    Speaking of daughters of notables,has anyone gotten a gander at Erica Jong's daughter,Mollie.
    She is like this woke monster. An angry,bizzaro from planet Fuckyouyouwhitemale.
    She's out there...and she can't be reasoned with... She doesn't feel pity,remorse or fear...
    Note: I read Erica's crap book,"Fear of Flying",while travelling to Camp Lejeune lo these many years.The cover had a semi nude womans torso. I wish it hadn't,cause then I wouldn't have bought that shit..

    Replies: @Harry Baldwin, @Achmed E. Newman

  10. do you think if the NBA logo wasn’t a silhouette, that the players would have demanded it be changed 20 years ago? how many even realize it’s Jerry West?

    solution: restore all the portraits, but make them nondescript solid color silhouettes, so nobody can see at a glance that they’re all pale penis persons.

    • Replies: @anonymous
    @prime noticer

    Well. All of them, actually.


    They call him "The Logo" and he is right this second still working as the most feared and respected executive in the NBA.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    , @Joseph Doaks
    @prime noticer

    "Pale penis persons" --- that's great!

  11. Another depressing post. The stupidity has reached the highest levels.

    • Replies: @Kronos
    @Buzz Mohawk

    Careful, I doubt you’d want to be surprised on that front.

    (Neither do I for that matter.)

    , @Cowboy shaw
    @Buzz Mohawk

    It's one of the very most depressing I've seen. The clock to the new dark ages just skipped forward a decade with that twitter feed.

    , @The Anti-Gnostic
    @Buzz Mohawk

    Don't worry. It will all be over soon.

  12. @The Germ Theory of Disease
    "The current generation of doctors does not resemble that old wall."

    Quite so. They don't resemble the portraits in any way. The current generation of doctors does /not/ have two eyes, a nose, and a mouth. They do not have ears, nor four limbs and a spinal column. Where are the beaks and tentacles? Where are the hideous wings? Where is the Cthulhu mouth-mask of undulating, semi-autonomous worm-things?

    Ohhhh... waaaiiit... /Now/ I get it. The current generation of doctors have a variety of skin-complexions, which means of course that they can have absolutely no intellectual, philosophical, ethical, or scientific connection to the guys with the other skin-tone.

    So, in other words, you're a racist. Good to know!

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Steve in Greensboro

    “The current generation of doctors does not resemble that old wall.”

    No, it resembles an old wall in the Soviet Union:

  13. His daughter has pronouns in her Twitter profile.

    • Replies: @Marlboro
    @Dave Pinsen

    The choice of pronouns on your email sign signature. The hr people at the bank I work for are asking cough cough all of us to use them.

  14. I don’t resemble Hanah Senesh, whose supreme bravery inspires me. To remove her cuz she’s not male makes as little sense as removing Codman, pioneer of outcomes research, cuz he’s male.

    Vanity: insisting your hero look like you.

    • Replies: @syonredux
    @syonredux


    I don’t resemble Hanah Senesh, whose supreme bravery inspires me. To remove her cuz she’s not male makes as little sense as removing Codman, pioneer of outcomes research, cuz he’s male.

    Vanity: insisting your hero look like you.
     
    Another pioneering White man:

    Ernest Amory Codman, M.D., (December 30, 1869 – November 23, 1940)[1] was a pioneering Boston surgeon who made contributions to anaesthesiology, radiology, duodenal ulcer surgery, orthopaedic oncology, shoulder surgery, and the study of medical outcomes.[2]
     

    Codman was born in Boston Massachusetts. He attended the Fay School in Southborough, and prepped at St. Mark's School, matriculating at Harvard College.
     

    He was an advocate of hospital reform and is the acknowledged founder of what today is known as outcomes management in patient care. Codman was the first American doctor to follow the progress of patients through their recoveries in a systematic manner.[3] He kept track of his patients via "End Result Cards" which contained basic demographic data on every patient treated, along with the diagnosis, the treatment he rendered, and the outcome of each case. Each patient was followed up on for at least one year to observe long-term outcomes. It was his lifelong pursuit to establish an "end results system" to track the outcomes of patient treatments as an opportunity to identify clinical misadventures that serve as the foundation for improving the care of future patients. He also believed that all of this information should be made public so that patients could be guided in their choices of physicians and hospitals.
     
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ernest_Amory_Codman
  15. As far as I’m aware, nothing like this is happening in medical schools in the United Kingdom. But where the US goes, the UK tends to follow. The point of having these portraits is surely to encourage current students, whatever the colour of their skin, to make great new strides in medicine.

    We are following the US in other domains, though. Only this year, affirmative action for working-class and “low-income” students was introduced at some of our most elite universities.

    On the other hand, the National Academy for Gifted and Talented Youth was scrapped in 2010, with the money being redirected to helping “disadvantaged” students. New grammar schools (for pupils with IQs in the top 25%) were banned almost two decades ago. So, in this domain, New York is perhaps following the UK. I’m just surprised Stuyvesant and other selective schools survived this long.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Edward

    They dont have hostile jews pervading academia government and media on the scale of The United States. Make no mistake of the goal, displace, dispossess and ultimately subjugate the historic American peoples who created Harvard medical school and by extension the nation.

    , @J.Ross
    @Edward

    UK is ahead of the US. Derb reported a while ago that a statue of a real founder of modern nursing outside a nursing school had been removed and replaced with an image of a post-Napoleonic camp follower.
    The person who had contributed to science and human confort was white and the person who had sold lemonade to warring officers was thought to be mixed.

    Replies: @Ancient Briton

  16. @Buzz Mohawk
    Another depressing post. The stupidity has reached the highest levels.

    Replies: @Kronos, @Cowboy shaw, @The Anti-Gnostic

    Careful, I doubt you’d want to be surprised on that front.

    (Neither do I for that matter.)

  17. Well, at least we can soon ignore the phrases “I went to Harvard Medical School” and “According to research by the Harvard School of Public Health”.

    • Replies: @Anon
    @Redneck farmer

    But you can ignore it already. A group of rich consanguineous Christians was replaced by a group of rich consanguineous Jews.

    They pretend to "look differently", but the current crop of Ashkenaz looks quite European.

    They were all rich because they told everyone how great is Harvard, not because Harvard is great.

    Harvard and Stanford pay their PR personnel to write odes about their professors on apparently neutral websites. In fact, preciously little came out their medical schools, and this, in the era of the most important changes in medicine. There are colleges in Belgium as important for the last century of medicine

    I already explained that Wikipedia lists Diamond Sr as the "discoverer of thalasemia", although the disease is aka Cooley anemia, because a guy name Cooley actually discovered it. But Cooley was not in Harvard, so there is no PR working for him.

    It's true that doctors look differently. A third of America's doctors come from a different country. The number of Indians starting US residencies at the age of 23 is evidence that Aetna can't get enough "well-rounded" wall-decorating Ashkenaz. But that should not be a problem in Harvard. Most of their graduates don't see patients anyway.

    Also, in a hospital, pictures of the yesteryear idiots who though you can get ulcer from stress, but could cure it with tobacco, are vomit. They say more about stuffed old assholes who run the place. Most of the department chairs went to medical school before half of the facts needed for MCAT were discovered. I can see why the famous pyramidologist Ben Carson, who knows nothing about Nogos, would probably love to keep those portraits.

    They are as clueless as him.

    Luckily, there are specialists who can appreciate what is good and revolutionary in medicine, and can illuminate us. In particular, sons are good at it.

  18. @syonredux

    I don't resemble Hanah Senesh, whose supreme bravery inspires me. To remove her cuz she's not male makes as little sense as removing Codman, pioneer of outcomes research, cuz he's male.

    Vanity: insisting your hero look like you.
     
    https://twitter.com/ArnonKrongrad/status/1117435786352263168

    Replies: @syonredux

    I don’t resemble Hanah Senesh, whose supreme bravery inspires me. To remove her cuz she’s not male makes as little sense as removing Codman, pioneer of outcomes research, cuz he’s male.

    Vanity: insisting your hero look like you.

    Another pioneering White man:

    Ernest Amory Codman, M.D., (December 30, 1869 – November 23, 1940)[1] was a pioneering Boston surgeon who made contributions to anaesthesiology, radiology, duodenal ulcer surgery, orthopaedic oncology, shoulder surgery, and the study of medical outcomes.[2]

    Codman was born in Boston Massachusetts. He attended the Fay School in Southborough, and prepped at St. Mark’s School, matriculating at Harvard College.

    He was an advocate of hospital reform and is the acknowledged founder of what today is known as outcomes management in patient care. Codman was the first American doctor to follow the progress of patients through their recoveries in a systematic manner.[3] He kept track of his patients via “End Result Cards” which contained basic demographic data on every patient treated, along with the diagnosis, the treatment he rendered, and the outcome of each case. Each patient was followed up on for at least one year to observe long-term outcomes. It was his lifelong pursuit to establish an “end results system” to track the outcomes of patient treatments as an opportunity to identify clinical misadventures that serve as the foundation for improving the care of future patients. He also believed that all of this information should be made public so that patients could be guided in their choices of physicians and hospitals.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ernest_Amory_Codman

  19. the Bornstein auditorium at one of America’s great research hospitals has been purged of portraits of heroes of medical sciences

    When that news was first announced I was so pissed off I had to bust out the (((parentheses))) more than once. Good for Dr. Flier, who I presume is Jewish, to belatedly speak up, but here’s the witch who decided to remove the portraits— President of Brigham and Women’s Hospital, Dr. Betsy Nabel:

    [MORE]

    • Replies: @Cowboy shaw
    @Jenner Ickham Errican

    By the fires of hades she is one ugly mofo.

    Replies: @Cloudswrest

    , @Anonymous
    @Jenner Ickham Errican

    Nabel is a Minnesota native and graduate of Lutheran stronghold St. Olaf College. She's about as Jewish as Garrison Keillor.

    Replies: @Charon, @Jenner Ickham Errican

    , @ldhd
    @Jenner Ickham Errican

    She looks very very )))not Jewish(((.

    , @Save the Castelmans
    @Jenner Ickham Errican

    I am fascinated by Betsy and by her equally successful husband. They successfully bounce off between pharma executive levels, Washington regulatory agencies, and the highest bill on Massachusetts budget (Partners Health, owner of Brigham and Womens).

    But the best part in their biographies is their son, who, at the age of 25, while working as resident, was "leading" a "national network" for the study of Castleman disease. He claims he had some relative affected, but a quick google shows the disease to see how likely that is. There are more cases of alien abduction during a morgellons crisis, than cases of Castleman.

    Now, residents are famously the most overworked people in America, with workweeks commonly longer than 100 hours a week. How did the young Chris Nabel find time to lead a national network? Did it help that he was a resident in the hospital where his mother is Kaiser? Did it help that no other scientist gives a damn about a disease that 99% of physicians never heard of, and so nobody read his scientific papers?

    A sane person would conclude the he is lying about his research, or about his medical training. A safer bet is to assume he lies about both. That's Harvard Medical School.

    , @JudgeSmails
    @Jenner Ickham Errican


    [MORE]
     
    NOOOOO!

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    , @JudgeSmails
    @Jenner Ickham Errican


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    NOOOOO!

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  20. I like that he ends his tweet with the very Trumpian “Sad” – I see that a lot now.

    Scott Adams was right, Trump is a Master Wizard.

  21. @Buzz Mohawk
    Another depressing post. The stupidity has reached the highest levels.

    Replies: @Kronos, @Cowboy shaw, @The Anti-Gnostic

    It’s one of the very most depressing I’ve seen. The clock to the new dark ages just skipped forward a decade with that twitter feed.

    • Agree: YetAnotherAnon
  22. @Jenner Ickham Errican
    https://www.bostonglobe.com/resizer/HBkL2ArlX2uK7NBXSAp5BCd4DNU=/960x0/arc-anglerfish-arc2-prod-bostonglobe.s3.amazonaws.com/public/GOO3SBDOQII6RNGY5L3Y2TCUJQ.jpg

    the Bornstein auditorium at one of America’s great research hospitals has been purged of portraits of heroes of medical sciences
     
    When that news was first announced I was so pissed off I had to bust out the (((parentheses))) more than once. Good for Dr. Flier, who I presume is Jewish, to belatedly speak up, but here’s the witch who decided to remove the portraits— President of Brigham and Women’s Hospital, Dr. Betsy Nabel:

    https://www.broadinstitute.org/files/styles/biosketch__413x315_/public/bios/photos/Elizabeth%20Nabel.jpg

    https://www.nih.gov/sites/default/files/styles/featured_media_breakpoint-medium/public/about-nih/nih-director/statements/collins/Nabel.jpg

    Replies: @Cowboy shaw, @Anonymous, @ldhd, @Save the Castelmans, @JudgeSmails, @JudgeSmails

    By the fires of hades she is one ugly mofo.

    • Replies: @Cloudswrest
    @Cowboy shaw

    https://sipowiczonfilm.files.wordpress.com/2010/07/predators-face.jpg

  23. These portraits of White men are bad juju……

    Academic Science Rethinks All-Too-White ‘Dude Walls’ Of Honor

    A few years ago, TV celebrity Rachel Maddow was at Rockefeller University to hand out a prize that’s given each year to a prominent female scientist. As Maddow entered the auditorium, someone overheard her say, “What is up with the dude wall?”

    Vosshall says Maddow’s remark, and the word “dude wall,” crystallized something that had been bothering her for years. As she travels around the country to give lectures and attend conferences at scientific institutions, she constantly encounters lobbies, conference rooms, passageways, and lecture halls that are decorated with portraits of white men.

    It just sends the message, every day when you walk by it, that science consists of old white men,” says Vosshall. “I think every institution needs to go out into the hallway and ask, ‘What kind of message are we sending with these oil portraits and dusty old photographs?’”

    “I don’t necessarily always have a reaction. But then there are times when you’re having a really bad day — someone says something racist to you, or you’re struggling with feeling like you belong in the space — and then you see all those photos and it kind of reinforces whatever you might have been feeling at the time,” says Max Jordan Nguemeni Tiako, a medical student at Yale.

    He grew up reading Harry Potter books, and in that fictional world, portraits can talk to the characters. “If this was Harry Potter,” he muses, “if they could speak, what would they even say to me? Everywhere you study, there’s a big portrait somewhere of someone kind of staring you down.”

    “Students felt like these portraits were not just ancient, historic things that had nothing to do with their contemporary experience,” says Anderson. “They actually felt that the portraits reinforced contemporary issues of exclusion, of racial discrimination — of othering.”

    • Replies: @BB753
    @syonredux

    Only a fool or a madman (madperson?) would think that a portrait hanging on a wall gives a message or is "othering" him, whatever that means. These people don't deserve a college, let alone a medical degree.

    Replies: @al gore rhythms

    , @bomag
    @syonredux

    May be time for one of those social science experiments.

    Stock the walls with old white men; note accomplishments of graduates.

    Stock the walls with young POC etc; note ensuing achievement.

    , @El Dato
    @syonredux


    A few years ago, TV celebrity Rachel Maddow was at Rockefeller University to hand out a prize that’s given each year to a prominent female scientist. As Maddow entered the auditorium, someone overheard her say, “What is up with the dude wall?
     
    Pretty amazing that Rachel Maddow is invited to do anything except work in some dusty archive. The culture of what can charitably be called "celebrity", innit?

    Rachel Maddow Speaks at the 2015 Pearl Meister Greengard Prize

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3xsU6tLOsTE

    Everything is really, really, completely broken.

    Then you notice that Mr. Greengard, who is being fêted here due to his instituting the Greengard Prize for his support of women scientists, has made an Iranian rich:

    https://nypost.com/2007/06/03/bias-suit-slaps-city-nobel-prof/


    Emamian said she was recruited in 2004 and promised support for her research but was paid less than male scientists of lower standing.

    “Women in science have always been discriminated against,” Emamian said.

    In April 2005, her colleague Marc Flajolet sent an e-mail to the entire lab calling Emamian, raised Muslim in Iran, a “camel driver,” the suit states.

     

    Later:

    Today, a federal jury in the Southern District of New York found The Rockefeller University liable for discrimination based on race and national origin in its treatment of Dr. Effat Emamian—a young scientist from Iran. Dr. Emamian worked for Rockefeller from 2001 until she was refused re-appointment in August 2007. After three days of deliberation, the jury awarded Dr. Emamian, $2.25 million in damages. Dr. Emamian was subjected to this discrimination while researching cellular and molecular neuroscience in the lab of, and under the supervision of, Dr. Paul Greengard, a Nobel Prize Laureate in Medicine.

     

    Getting 2.25 million USD via a lazy discrimination lawsuit is certainly better than not getting 100'000 USD via hard work and a Greengard prize. A case of you bet your money and you take your chances?
    , @Federalist
    @syonredux

    What's Rachel MadCow bitching about? She looks like the dudes on wall.

    Replies: @Duke84

  24. It’s a bit of a stretch but it’ll tie in with Steve’s recent post on 1001 Arabian Nights.

    In general foreign (non-European) medical professionals aren’t really famous. It’s pretty bare even in fiction. The most notable is the medical attaché in David Foster Wallace’s “Infinite Jest.” Kind’ve ties in with the recent 1001 Arabian Nights article.

    *Spoilers*

    The protagonist’s mother had a thing for sexual affairs with oriental medical attaches in the book. The father was a alcoholic and the affairs didn’t help matters. He in many ways demonstrated a pathological hatred for them. (One lover was the first victim of the killer “Entertainment” film.) Anyway the father killed himself by putting his head it a microwave and exploding his head like a unvented hot potato. (It’s a big part that starts the story like how the unfaithful wife started 1001 Arabian Nights. Heads started to roll but this one popped.)

    Regardless, it’s not the kind of fame foreign brown doctors want to cultivate (normally.) Aren’t they licensed in the US to work in hospitals that lazy American doctors turn their noses at? Come on, there are black bodies bleeding from bullet holes on the floor! They’re literally dying on the IV vine!

  25. • Replies: @El Dato
    @eah

    Someone with a failure degree is unhappy:

    https://twitter.com/Juan_LunaDD/status/1117151626567962624

    Replies: @AndrewR, @Altai

    , @Charon
    @eah

    "There's a middle ground: let's do everything my way."

    Are there some pictures of POC tranny astronauts up there yet? Why are we ignoring their contributions hmm? How about Kalahari Bushmen, I mean Bushwomen? And where would we all be without Andrea Dworkin? Time we got started on this thing.

    Replies: @eah, @Lurker

  26. Amy Wax’s counterpoint to Lydia’s tweet.

    • Agree: 95Theses
  27. @syonredux
    These portraits of White men are bad juju......


    Academic Science Rethinks All-Too-White 'Dude Walls' Of Honor


    A few years ago, TV celebrity Rachel Maddow was at Rockefeller University to hand out a prize that's given each year to a prominent female scientist. As Maddow entered the auditorium, someone overheard her say, "What is up with the dude wall?"
     

    Vosshall says Maddow's remark, and the word "dude wall," crystallized something that had been bothering her for years. As she travels around the country to give lectures and attend conferences at scientific institutions, she constantly encounters lobbies, conference rooms, passageways, and lecture halls that are decorated with portraits of white men.
     

    It just sends the message, every day when you walk by it, that science consists of old white men," says Vosshall. "I think every institution needs to go out into the hallway and ask, 'What kind of message are we sending with these oil portraits and dusty old photographs?'"

     


    "I don't necessarily always have a reaction. But then there are times when you're having a really bad day — someone says something racist to you, or you're struggling with feeling like you belong in the space — and then you see all those photos and it kind of reinforces whatever you might have been feeling at the time," says Max Jordan Nguemeni Tiako, a medical student at Yale.
     

     He grew up reading Harry Potter books, and in that fictional world, portraits can talk to the characters. "If this was Harry Potter," he muses, "if they could speak, what would they even say to me? Everywhere you study, there's a big portrait somewhere of someone kind of staring you down."
     

    "Students felt like these portraits were not just ancient, historic things that had nothing to do with their contemporary experience," says Anderson. "They actually felt that the portraits reinforced contemporary issues of exclusion, of racial discrimination — of othering."
     

    Replies: @BB753, @bomag, @El Dato, @Federalist

    Only a fool or a madman (madperson?) would think that a portrait hanging on a wall gives a message or is “othering” him, whatever that means. These people don’t deserve a college, let alone a medical degree.

    • Replies: @al gore rhythms
    @BB753

    If they replace all those pictures with new pictures of people of colour, wouldn't you think they were sending you a message? It's not always crazy to think that that is the case.

    The difference is of course that the white men on the wall only had their picture up there because they had done something of merit. No-one had the intention of 'othering' ethnic minorities. Whereas if the pictures are replaced by PC non-entities, it will be done for political purposes.

    So perhaps part of the problem with liberals and non-whites is that they judge the white world of yesterday by their own petty, vengeful standards.

    Replies: @415 reasons, @Reg Cæsar, @ThreeCranes

  28. From the Great Medical Portrait Wall of Diversity and Inclusion…

    Dr. MacHenry Magnus Cillian — discovery of the hemoglobin prolapse re-uptake inhibitor.

    Dr. Samuel Levinson — discovery of the plasmic antigen to the Corbin-Mahan cyto-reaction.

    Dr. Obanguwe N’Dbue — discovery of the Critical Need for A Lot More White Girls in the Undergrad Organic Chemistry Sections. Especially Blonde Ones.

    Dr. Abdul ibn Muhammad al-Mohamed — discovery of the Yes, Yes, Yes, A Lot More White Girls Please hypothesis.

    Dr. Rajit Nadil Sudharhastrachudhury — discovery of the theory of We Must Have Many, Many More More Open Visas, Especially for My Cousins From My Village. It’s Sooo Nice Here, You’ll NEVER Make Me Go Home.

    Dr. Oscar Nachas Hijuelo Gonzalez — discovery of the When Can I Finally Leave My Filthy Latino Sh!thole And Come Live With The White People?!?!? metalypsic paradox.

    • LOL: jim jones
  29. @Reg Cæsar
    Lydia is so woke, she must be inked as well:



    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=n4zRe_wvJw8

    Replies: @Father O'Hara

    Thanks for this wonderful Marxism. Women named Lydia should be avoided. They are never normal.
    Speaking of daughters of notables,has anyone gotten a gander at Erica Jong’s daughter,Mollie.
    She is like this woke monster. An angry,bizzaro from planet Fuckyouyouwhitemale.
    She’s out there…and she can’t be reasoned with… She doesn’t feel pity,remorse or fear…
    Note: I read Erica’s crap book,”Fear of Flying”,while travelling to Camp Lejeune lo these many years.The cover had a semi nude womans torso. I wish it hadn’t,cause then I wouldn’t have bought that shit..

    • Replies: @Harry Baldwin
    @Father O'Hara

    Women named Lydia should be avoided. They are never normal.

    Come, come, Peter Brimelow's lovely, intelligent, and right-thinking wife is named Lydia.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    , @Achmed E. Newman
    @Father O'Hara

    Yeah, that Reg must be one of those Cultural Marxists. I agree with Harry about Mrs. Brimelow. I had some girl try to get me to read that same Erica Jong book long ago. It didn't take. She did turn me on to some Joni Mitchell music though.

  30. @prime noticer
    it wouldn't be 2019 without the snitty, useless, backtalking daughter attacking you and your legacy while taking full personal advantage of everything you and your ancestors worked on for hundreds of years.

    letting them vote. what a disaster that's turned out to be. sometimes we have no worse enemy than overeducated suburban women.

    "Will trade racists for immigrants!" the harridan said.

    Replies: @Mr McKenna, @AnotherDad

    Sometimes I think it’s going to be fun watching this mess explode sky high.
    But only sometimes.

    • Replies: @JR Ewing
    @Mr McKenna

    Ayn Rand had this figured out 60 years ago.

    "You know, if you don't like us that much, we'll just disappear for a while and you guys can try and do better."

    [world blows up]

    "Guess it's time for us to go back and rebuild the world."

  31. OT: Aggressive Diversity Fetish causes PHP conference to be cancelled.

    Female-free speaker list causes PHP show to collapse when diversity-oriented devs jump ship: Presenters withdraw from the PHP Central Europe conference, show organizers call it quits

    Under the heading, “Diversity Matters!” the website for the PHP Central Europe developer conference (PHP.CE) says, “PHP Central Europe Conference is committed to creating a conference that is as inclusive as possible.”

    As inclusive as possible but not more.

    But then … someone notices something and “sparks a conversation” …

    a July 17 Tweet from Karl Hughes, CTO of educational consultancy The Graide Network, chastises the conference for a speaker list made up entirely of white men.

    [Larry Garfield, aka Crell, director of developer experience at Platform.sh … planned to] work with conference organizers to subsidize travel costs, knowing that the expense of international travel might be deterring women and other underrepresented groups from submitting presentation proposals.

    This is probably called “busing” and “upholding the rights of so-called minorities to be overrepresented everywhere”. (What kind of job title is “director of developer experience” anyway.)

    “Unfortunately, the organizers indicated they were not open to such an arrangement,” wrote Garfield. “According to them, they had only a single woman submit a session proposal this year despite having women present in previous years, and hers was a repeat from a local conference last year. They were also firm that the Call For Papers was done and over and they’re not open to reaching out to new people now.”

    Well PHP is not exactly the hottest stuff in 2019.

    [Event manager] Grzesista has argued that diversity and inclusion are worthy goals but should not come at the expense of presentation quality.

    Oldthinker unbellyfeels forced DivSoc.

    On July 24, software developer Mark Baker said he too had decided to withdraw from speaking at the conference, citing similar reasons to Garfield … “Diversity matters more to me than speaking.”

    Welp!

    The Register asked one of those involved whether a few social media posts had really derailed the conference. The individual, who asked not to be named presumably because these issues generate more heat than light, suggested the cancellation may reflect poor ticket sales more than anything else.

    Yet public posts about the absence of women at a conference can affect ticket sales. As PHP Central Europe’s Twitter account put it, “After Crell’s action [blog post] our sales stopped completely….”

    https://twitter.com/phpce_eu/status/1165381240922484743?s=20

    • Replies: @Charon
    @El Dato

    Stop press! AOC has a "new math" proposal that should fix just about everything.

    https://babylonbee.com/news/ocasio-cortez-proposes-counting-white-peoples-ballots-as-35-of-a-vote

    , @bomag
    @El Dato

    How important is such a conference if it is so easily derailed?

    I figured it is SOP that organizers call central casting for a woman or two of color and various genders/sexualities to give a talk about the female experience in the Zimbabwe bush meat trade while saying "code" several times. Should do it.

  32. @Jenner Ickham Errican
    https://www.bostonglobe.com/resizer/HBkL2ArlX2uK7NBXSAp5BCd4DNU=/960x0/arc-anglerfish-arc2-prod-bostonglobe.s3.amazonaws.com/public/GOO3SBDOQII6RNGY5L3Y2TCUJQ.jpg

    the Bornstein auditorium at one of America’s great research hospitals has been purged of portraits of heroes of medical sciences
     
    When that news was first announced I was so pissed off I had to bust out the (((parentheses))) more than once. Good for Dr. Flier, who I presume is Jewish, to belatedly speak up, but here’s the witch who decided to remove the portraits— President of Brigham and Women’s Hospital, Dr. Betsy Nabel:

    https://www.broadinstitute.org/files/styles/biosketch__413x315_/public/bios/photos/Elizabeth%20Nabel.jpg

    https://www.nih.gov/sites/default/files/styles/featured_media_breakpoint-medium/public/about-nih/nih-director/statements/collins/Nabel.jpg

    Replies: @Cowboy shaw, @Anonymous, @ldhd, @Save the Castelmans, @JudgeSmails, @JudgeSmails

    Nabel is a Minnesota native and graduate of Lutheran stronghold St. Olaf College. She’s about as Jewish as Garrison Keillor.

    • Replies: @Charon
    @Anonymous

    It's funny how you think either of those facts implies anything about Dr. Nabel's religious background. Here's some more.

    https://www.thejewishadvocate.com/articles/brigham-health-president-honored-by-israels-rambam/

    https://jonathanturley.org/2018/06/19/harvard/comment-page-1/

    Replies: @Kaganovitch, @ldhd

    , @Jenner Ickham Errican
    @Anonymous

    Hmmm. Maybe Nabel isn’t by birth, but her husband and his heritage is on her mind.

    (And look at her face—Jewdar pinging! She could be part Jewish in the manner of John Kerry, Wesley Clark, etc. I’m gonna need to see her 23andMe. ;) )

    https://www.hmsreview.org/issue/2015/1/dr-maiden-name-will-see-you-now


    She explained that her maiden name, Guenthner, had been difficult for her patients to pronounce, spell, and remember; Nabel, on the other hand, was easy and appealing because it provided her family with “one central name.”

    In addition, Dr. Nabel’s story showed how decisions about surnames are often made in collaboration and in the context of other important family traditions like religion, education, and culture:

    I come from the Midwest and was raised with very traditional values.  My husband comes from a family of Holocaust survivors.  We wanted to honor our backgrounds and traditions, so we agreed that I would take his name.”
     

    Replies: @J.Ross

  33. As Joseph Sobran explained: “Western man towers over the rest of the world in ways so large as to be almost inexpressible. It’s Western exploration, science, and conquest that have revealed the world to itself. Other races feel like subjects of Western power long after colonialism, imperialism, and slavery have disappeared. The charge of racism puzzles whites who feel not hostility, but only baffled good will, because they don’t grasp what it really means: humiliation. The white man presents an image of superiority even when he isn’t conscious of it. And, superiority excites envy. Destroying white civilization is the inmost desire of the league of designated victims we call minorities.”

  34. On the whole, white men are hated today not for their sins but for their contributions.

    The white men of old built a European civilization that was so much better than that of other societies (even in the terms of these other societies) that the other societies destroyed their own social structure to be more like the European civilizations. Toynbee referred to this as imitation of a creative minority. Examples: Indian adoption of British bureaucratic forms and democracy, Russian and Chinese adoption of Communism, Turkey’s adoption of non-Islamic secular government.

    Then, to their shock and horror, it turned out that the civilizations that had restructured themselves couldn’t live in a European framework. They started changing back to a system more consistent with what their population thought of as common sense, more suitable to their capabilities and feelings.

    This varied by country, of course. Some countries never quite adopted Western government, but rather had it imposed upon them with very little participation by the native population. Others voluntarily adopted it with very little participation by Western personnel. Each, however, ended up by adopting a Western form of government that it is now in the process of rejecting.

    Immigrants to the US found themselves in the same situation, confronted with several American sociological groups that were not their own. At first there was significant conformity — American Catholics became much more like American Protestants than they had been. Former black slaves developed a middle class of merchants, and a middle income class of service professionals (Coleman Porters, for example) that had been (and still are) utterly lacking in West Africa. The immigrants, to, are trying to transform American society into something more consistent with their feelings and abilities, because they can’t live comfortably here. In many cases, thanks to selection by urban areas trying to import foreigners they can retain, they can’t live in American society at all without being supported by the rest of American society. Even urban taxi drivers earn their living by providing services to people whose income is ultimately from tax money or political influence.

    Thus: the white men may have been responsible for making the entire population increase possible, hence making many billions of lives possible, _proximately_ most (almost all) of the increased populations can’t live in a European derived society, and in fact have no economic function in their own society or any industrial society. Of course they hate the men who brought this situation about, just as they hat those who sustain it today. Hatred is the emotion engendered by threats to a person’s life, and the whole of European society is a threat to the non-European’s life, no matter where the non-European lives. [1]

    In fact, industrial society is becoming a threat to the European descendants themselves [2], and seems to be responsible for the decline of European populations.

    So

    1] Even Japan, perhaps the most successful of the adopters of Western forms, science, and engineering, has a population that is in significant decline. While it may be that Japan is simply dropping its own population back to a density and competition level that its population can sustain, the process of decline manifests itself as threats to individuals — long work hours, social isolation, childlessness.

    2] https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-08-26/obamas-american-factory-film-backfires-exposes-damning-snapshot-american-labor

    • Replies: @YetAnotherAnon
    @Counterinsurgency

    "the other societies destroyed their own social structure to be more like the European civilizations"... "Russian and Chinese adoption of Communism"

    There were zero European civilisations built on communism.

    In both cases communism triumphed after a war in which the country on its own was hammered, but allies triumphed over the enemy that hammered you. So your elites were to blame for the defeats, but your war-weary allies didn't want badly enough to defend your existing elites against insurrection (the UK and France made a fist of fighting the Bolsheviks post-WWI, was there any such aid to Nationalist China?) .

    Replies: @El Dato, @Counterinsurgency, @al gore rhythms

    , @Anonymous
    @Counterinsurgency


    Even Japan, perhaps the most successful of the adopters of Western forms, science, and engineering, has a population that is in significant decline. While it may be that Japan is simply dropping its own population back to a density and competition level that its population can sustain, the process of decline manifests itself as threats to individuals — long work hours, social isolation, childlessness.
     
    Japan will be just fine without importing civilization-destroying Third World people.

    https://mainichi.jp/english/articles/20190825/p2a/00m/0fe/005000c#cxrecs_s

    Some hospitals in Japan imposing conditions for foreigners amid language, other concerns

    August 25, 2019

    TOKYO -- While Japan has seen increases in the numbers of foreign workers and people visiting the country, some medical facilities have started to impose strict conditions for seeing non-Japanese patients.

    In at least one case, a facility serving as a hub for receiving foreign patients announced that it could turn foreigners away if it couldn't confirm their residence status. Although non-Japanese could provide a new source of income for medical facilities, it appears that some hospitals are concerned about the risk of medical accidents stemming from language problems, as well as issues including the nonpayment of fees...

    In Tokyo's Shinjuku Ward, which has the highest concentration of foreign residents among the capital's 23 wards, at over 10 percent, one maternity clinic stated on its website that it limited patients to those who could speak a conversational level of Japanese. The reason was that misunderstandings over explanations on treatment could lead to serious medical accidents. The clinic says it turns away those without sufficient language proficiency even if they have an interpreter with them...
     
    Who are these well-regulated foreigners in Tokyo, who are a small minority?

    https://resources.realestate.co.jp/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/Foreigner-Population-of-Tokyo-by-Continent-of-Origin-Real-Estate-Japan.png

    What nations are most represented in Tokyo’s foreigner population?
    The top five Asian countries by resident foreigner population are: China (with 199,949), Korea (90,438), Viet Nam (32,334), the Philippines (32,089), and Nepal (26,157).

    The top five European countries by resident foreigner population are: France (6,337), the United Kingdom (6,107), Germany (2,835), Russia (2,561), and Italy (1,848).

    The top three North American countries by resident foreigner population are: the United States (17,578), Canada (3,075), and Mexico (549).

    The top three South American countries by resident foreigner population are: Brazil (3,206), Peru (1,857), and Colombia (519).

    The top two Oceanian countries by resident foreigner population are: Australia (3,215) and New Zealand (852).

    The top three African countries by resident foreigner population are: Ghana (523), Nigeria (523), and Egypt (294).
     
    Largely NE Asian with a smattering of SE Asian and a sliver of educated white professionals and just a handful of non-white professionals.

    Japan will be just fine.

    Replies: @jim jones

    , @Rob
    @Counterinsurgency

    Counter, that’s really interesting theory. Is it yours? If not,whose?

    Also, you don’t need to write counterinsurgency at the bottom of every post. It appears at the top in blue, and when what you say is interesting (and it was), people will move their eyes slightly to see who wrote it.

    Replies: @Counterinsurgency

    , @AnotherDad
    @Counterinsurgency

    Good comment Counter ...

    but now i'm stuck with this image of the "Coleman Porter" carrying my stove over to the campsite picnic table with a big friendly smile on his face.

    Replies: @J.Ross

  35. Daughter has ‘She/her’ in her twitter bio, as many others have noted, pronoun twitter is just the adult wing of 15 year old girls on Tumblr; they might be sincere believers but it wouldn’t change their posting if they weren’t, that’s not the point for them.

  36. The West is facing what I’ve taken to calling a Crisis of the Intellectual Class. This is the world’s biggest problem today, bigger than non-white immigration.

  37. @Mr McKenna
    @prime noticer

    Sometimes I think it's going to be fun watching this mess explode sky high.
    But only sometimes.

    Replies: @JR Ewing

    Ayn Rand had this figured out 60 years ago.

    “You know, if you don’t like us that much, we’ll just disappear for a while and you guys can try and do better.”

    [world blows up]

    “Guess it’s time for us to go back and rebuild the world.”

    • Agree: BenKenobi
  38. Older, well-meaning liberals like Dr. Jeffrey Flier are still under the impression that today’s progressives can be reasoned with, that they can be met halfway. In his article he makes suggestions:

    Removing all the historic amphitheater portraits — leaving bare walls in their place for the past year — won’t advance diversity. What might? An array of art that reflects today’s rapidly changing physician leadership, while recognizing essential but less male-dominated health-related professions, such as nursing and social work.

    Perhaps a rotating subset of older portraits displayed alongside newly commissioned works — with the reasons for the choices conveyed in historically informed commentary. As images of women and minorities join those of past leaders, the divide between limited past diversity and the more diverse present would diminish. And importantly, newly configured portraiture could provide an essential lesson: that diversity and inclusion are hard-won victories that should neither be hidden nor taken for granted.

    Dr. Flier doesn’t understand what he is dealing with. It’s not only about celebrating minorities, but about vilifying white males. As long as there is a portrait of a white male whose achievements dwarf that of the minorities, the progressives will be angry. His own daughter will make that clear to him.

    • Agree: HammerJack
    • Replies: @FlierDoc
    @Harry Baldwin

    Exactly this. Scroll through the good doctor's twitter feed and you will lose any sympathy that you may have had for him after reading the article. He's getting exactly what he deserves for coddling the left.

    Replies: @Wilkey

    , @anonymous
    @Harry Baldwin

    During Jeffrey Flier's tenure as Dean of HMS, he was considered by many to be a disaster. Harvard finally got rid of him after nine years and, in his official portrait (after his ouster), he is extending a middle finger on one of his hands.

    https://hms.harvard.edu/sites/default/files/uploads/news/FlierPortrait600.jpg

    I disagree that Flier is a well meaning liberal, he could be considered in the mold of the typical obsequious weasel out for his own advancement. He's now lamenting the "changes" going on regarding these portraits and what de Blasio wants to do with the selective exam schools but he participated in the culture that resulted in these "changes".

    Could it be due to nepotism how his daughter, Lydia, got admitted into HMS?

  39. @Father O'Hara
    @Reg Cæsar

    Thanks for this wonderful Marxism. Women named Lydia should be avoided. They are never normal.
    Speaking of daughters of notables,has anyone gotten a gander at Erica Jong's daughter,Mollie.
    She is like this woke monster. An angry,bizzaro from planet Fuckyouyouwhitemale.
    She's out there...and she can't be reasoned with... She doesn't feel pity,remorse or fear...
    Note: I read Erica's crap book,"Fear of Flying",while travelling to Camp Lejeune lo these many years.The cover had a semi nude womans torso. I wish it hadn't,cause then I wouldn't have bought that shit..

    Replies: @Harry Baldwin, @Achmed E. Newman

    Women named Lydia should be avoided. They are never normal.

    Come, come, Peter Brimelow’s lovely, intelligent, and right-thinking wife is named Lydia.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Harry Baldwin

    Always conjures up Dean Friedman's 1977 opus of the same name.

  40. @El Dato
    OT: Aggressive Diversity Fetish causes PHP conference to be cancelled.

    Female-free speaker list causes PHP show to collapse when diversity-oriented devs jump ship: Presenters withdraw from the PHP Central Europe conference, show organizers call it quits


    Under the heading, "Diversity Matters!" the website for the PHP Central Europe developer conference (PHP.CE) says, "PHP Central Europe Conference is committed to creating a conference that is as inclusive as possible."

     

    As inclusive as possible but not more.

    But then ... someone notices something and "sparks a conversation" ...


    a July 17 Tweet from Karl Hughes, CTO of educational consultancy The Graide Network, chastises the conference for a speaker list made up entirely of white men.
     
    https://twitter.com/KarlLHughes/status/1151525811616387073

    [Larry Garfield, aka Crell, director of developer experience at Platform.sh ... planned to] work with conference organizers to subsidize travel costs, knowing that the expense of international travel might be deterring women and other underrepresented groups from submitting presentation proposals.
     
    This is probably called "busing" and "upholding the rights of so-called minorities to be overrepresented everywhere". (What kind of job title is "director of developer experience" anyway.)

    "Unfortunately, the organizers indicated they were not open to such an arrangement," wrote Garfield. "According to them, they had only a single woman submit a session proposal this year despite having women present in previous years, and hers was a repeat from a local conference last year. They were also firm that the Call For Papers was done and over and they're not open to reaching out to new people now."
     
    Well PHP is not exactly the hottest stuff in 2019.

    [Event manager] Grzesista has argued that diversity and inclusion are worthy goals but should not come at the expense of presentation quality.
     
    Oldthinker unbellyfeels forced DivSoc.

    On July 24, software developer Mark Baker said he too had decided to withdraw from speaking at the conference, citing similar reasons to Garfield ... "Diversity matters more to me than speaking."
     
    Welp!

    The Register asked one of those involved whether a few social media posts had really derailed the conference. The individual, who asked not to be named presumably because these issues generate more heat than light, suggested the cancellation may reflect poor ticket sales more than anything else.

    Yet public posts about the absence of women at a conference can affect ticket sales. As PHP Central Europe's Twitter account put it, "After Crell's action [blog post] our sales stopped completely…."
     

    https://twitter.com/phpce_eu/status/1165381240922484743?s=20

    Replies: @Charon, @bomag

    Stop press! AOC has a “new math” proposal that should fix just about everything.

    https://babylonbee.com/news/ocasio-cortez-proposes-counting-white-peoples-ballots-as-35-of-a-vote

  41. @eah

    Someone with a failure degree is unhappy:

    • Replies: @AndrewR
    @El Dato

    I guarantee he likes the members of white men to be "shoved" into his orifaces.

    , @Altai
    @El Dato

    He's got the same sneering grin they all have. Like a little sibling hitting an older one who knows he is too small for the older one to properly retaliate. He is revelling in his provocations whilst denying they are provocations. Part of that is also just the BPD endemic to hardcore SJWs.

    That's kind of the pose for all these people, particularly feminists, these days.

  42. @eah

    “There’s a middle ground: let’s do everything my way.”

    Are there some pictures of POC tranny astronauts up there yet? Why are we ignoring their contributions hmm? How about Kalahari Bushmen, I mean Bushwomen? And where would we all be without Andrea Dworkin? Time we got started on this thing.

    • Replies: @eah
    @Charon

    POC tranny astronauts

    Not yet.

    https://twitter.com/AFP/status/1165491692230721536

    Replies: @El Dato

    , @Lurker
    @Charon


    And where would we all be without Andrea Dworkin?
     
    With a lot more elbow room on the bus?
  43. Have to disagree with you, dad (and mom). Long thread coming with my thoughts about it. First point: The current generation of doctors does not much resemble that old wall. 1/

    Clearly they need to hang the hall with mirrors where the bottom says WORLD’S GREATEST DOC.

    • LOL: Harry Baldwin
  44. Any stick will do to beat the white man.

    • Agree: eah
  45. @Anonymous
    @Jenner Ickham Errican

    Nabel is a Minnesota native and graduate of Lutheran stronghold St. Olaf College. She's about as Jewish as Garrison Keillor.

    Replies: @Charon, @Jenner Ickham Errican

    It’s funny how you think either of those facts implies anything about Dr. Nabel’s religious background. Here’s some more.

    https://www.thejewishadvocate.com/articles/brigham-health-president-honored-by-israels-rambam/

    https://jonathanturley.org/2018/06/19/harvard/comment-page-1/

    • Replies: @Kaganovitch
    @Charon

    She's not Jewish, she was born Elizabeth Guenthner. Nabel is her husband,Gary's name. He is from an Orthodox Jewish background.

    , @ldhd
    @Charon

    You're speaking from the sort of proud ignorance that only the dumb can attain. The majority of those who have received the award in recent years have not been Jewish. And Nabel isn't either.

    Replies: @Charon

  46. Sam Coulton [AKA "S. M. Coulton"] says:
    @Anonymous
    No.

    They are hated purely and simply for being white *and* male.

    Replies: @Sam Coulton, @Anonymous, @Kylie

    No, it’s just for being white males. “White” women aren’t really white anyway, being in the same league with gypsies and other low-order nonwhites.

    • Replies: @El Dato
    @Sam Coulton

    So for"white" women it's either being Jewish or Gypsy/Low-Order Nonwhite?

    Makes sense.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GFYSzCJN4Zs

  47. @Harry Baldwin
    @Father O'Hara

    Women named Lydia should be avoided. They are never normal.

    Come, come, Peter Brimelow's lovely, intelligent, and right-thinking wife is named Lydia.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    Always conjures up Dean Friedman’s 1977 opus of the same name.

  48. @Peter Johnson
    @El Dato

    The blackening of theoretical physics has already begun, with Stanford leading the charge:

    https://www.campusreform.org/?ID=13615

    Replies: @bomag, @Mr. Anon, @MarkinLA

    Other courses offered to bridge the supposed diversity problem at Stanford include two one-unit physics courses that address not physics itself, but rather concepts of diversity within the discipline.

    “Physics 94SI: Diverse Perspectives in Physics” is a seminar course in which “physics faculty members from diverse backgrounds share the story of their lives and careers.”

    Physics majors can earn academic credit by learning “what it is like to be a female professor” or “a faculty member raised first-generation/low income.” The course takes place “over lunch” and consists of a discussion of the “lives and career trajectories” of various “diverse” professors.

    A similar course, titled “Physics 93SI: Beyond the Laboratory: Physics, Identity and Society,” is led by students, rather than professors. In this course, physics majors can earn academic credit by generally exploring “issues of diversity and culture in physics,” by applying concepts such as “critical race theory.” An optional extension of the class allows students to receive additional credit for developing a workshop to teach high school students about “inclusion in science.”

    Knife, meet organ.

    • Replies: @nokangaroos
    @bomag

    I wish to formally apologize for ever thinking that "German Physics" was pathetic :P

  49. @Harry Baldwin
    Older, well-meaning liberals like Dr. Jeffrey Flier are still under the impression that today's progressives can be reasoned with, that they can be met halfway. In his article he makes suggestions:

    Removing all the historic amphitheater portraits — leaving bare walls in their place for the past year — won’t advance diversity. What might? An array of art that reflects today’s rapidly changing physician leadership, while recognizing essential but less male-dominated health-related professions, such as nursing and social work.

    Perhaps a rotating subset of older portraits displayed alongside newly commissioned works — with the reasons for the choices conveyed in historically informed commentary. As images of women and minorities join those of past leaders, the divide between limited past diversity and the more diverse present would diminish. And importantly, newly configured portraiture could provide an essential lesson: that diversity and inclusion are hard-won victories that should neither be hidden nor taken for granted.
     
    Dr. Flier doesn't understand what he is dealing with. It's not only about celebrating minorities, but about vilifying white males. As long as there is a portrait of a white male whose achievements dwarf that of the minorities, the progressives will be angry. His own daughter will make that clear to him.

    Replies: @FlierDoc, @anonymous

    Exactly this. Scroll through the good doctor’s twitter feed and you will lose any sympathy that you may have had for him after reading the article. He’s getting exactly what he deserves for coddling the left.

    • Agree: Ibound1
    • Replies: @Wilkey
    @FlierDoc


    Exactly this. Scroll through the good doctor’s twitter feed and you will lose any sympathy that you may have had for him after reading the article. He’s getting exactly what he deserves for coddling the left.
     
    Remember that Yale professor who was screamed at to "shut up" over something his wife wrote about Halloween costumes? He and his wife had made multiple donations to Democratic candidates, including Hillary and Obama. They have made at least one contribution to a Democrat since, and of course have never made any to Republicans.

    Some people never learn.
  50. If there were no affirmative action and east Asian immigration the current crop of doctors would probably resemble those on the wall.

    • Agree: Cagey Beast
  51. @syonredux
    These portraits of White men are bad juju......


    Academic Science Rethinks All-Too-White 'Dude Walls' Of Honor


    A few years ago, TV celebrity Rachel Maddow was at Rockefeller University to hand out a prize that's given each year to a prominent female scientist. As Maddow entered the auditorium, someone overheard her say, "What is up with the dude wall?"
     

    Vosshall says Maddow's remark, and the word "dude wall," crystallized something that had been bothering her for years. As she travels around the country to give lectures and attend conferences at scientific institutions, she constantly encounters lobbies, conference rooms, passageways, and lecture halls that are decorated with portraits of white men.
     

    It just sends the message, every day when you walk by it, that science consists of old white men," says Vosshall. "I think every institution needs to go out into the hallway and ask, 'What kind of message are we sending with these oil portraits and dusty old photographs?'"

     


    "I don't necessarily always have a reaction. But then there are times when you're having a really bad day — someone says something racist to you, or you're struggling with feeling like you belong in the space — and then you see all those photos and it kind of reinforces whatever you might have been feeling at the time," says Max Jordan Nguemeni Tiako, a medical student at Yale.
     

     He grew up reading Harry Potter books, and in that fictional world, portraits can talk to the characters. "If this was Harry Potter," he muses, "if they could speak, what would they even say to me? Everywhere you study, there's a big portrait somewhere of someone kind of staring you down."
     

    "Students felt like these portraits were not just ancient, historic things that had nothing to do with their contemporary experience," says Anderson. "They actually felt that the portraits reinforced contemporary issues of exclusion, of racial discrimination — of othering."
     

    Replies: @BB753, @bomag, @El Dato, @Federalist

    May be time for one of those social science experiments.

    Stock the walls with old white men; note accomplishments of graduates.

    Stock the walls with young POC etc; note ensuing achievement.

  52. @Father O'Hara
    @Reg Cæsar

    Thanks for this wonderful Marxism. Women named Lydia should be avoided. They are never normal.
    Speaking of daughters of notables,has anyone gotten a gander at Erica Jong's daughter,Mollie.
    She is like this woke monster. An angry,bizzaro from planet Fuckyouyouwhitemale.
    She's out there...and she can't be reasoned with... She doesn't feel pity,remorse or fear...
    Note: I read Erica's crap book,"Fear of Flying",while travelling to Camp Lejeune lo these many years.The cover had a semi nude womans torso. I wish it hadn't,cause then I wouldn't have bought that shit..

    Replies: @Harry Baldwin, @Achmed E. Newman

    Yeah, that Reg must be one of those Cultural Marxists. I agree with Harry about Mrs. Brimelow. I had some girl try to get me to read that same Erica Jong book long ago. It didn’t take. She did turn me on to some Joni Mitchell music though.

  53. This is as important a truth as any of us will encounter today: “On the whole, white men are hated today not for their sins but for their contributions.”

    The fact of white contribution is to today’s Left proof of racism that kept the Numinous Negroes down.

    Back in the 1990s was when I heard academics preach that gospel and knew what was coming. I read articles and/or heard conference papers that announced the crippling racism of such basic white achievements as starting and running a small town fire department.

    When you are crazy enough to believe that, you are not all that far from being willing to agree that a guillotine line and a Gulag are necessary to purify the land of its unforgivable original sin.

    And yes, all this is the fruit of the war against Christendom. It is a spiritual/religious war.

  54. That news out of Stanford … wow. This is what Leftist Institution-Capture looks like. So will the minorities get help during tests? Will the separate-but-unequal-assistance scam continue into the upper level quantum mechanics courses? Will they rename the Schrodinger Equation because he was from that detestable demographic? And all the laws and formulas named for Newton, Fermi, Green, Heisenberg, etc etc — will they all be erased or renamed? I would bet serious money that eventually, they will.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Mike_from_SGV


    Will they rename the Schrodinger Equation because he was from that detestable demographic? And all the laws and formulas named for Newton, Fermi, Green, Heisenberg, etc etc
     
    Come on dude, get real, like, it’s not about all that.

    From MIT’s Spotlight on Stem:

    http://web.mit.edu/spotlight/dancing-their-way-stem/#main

    Dancing their way to STEM

    Yamilée Toussaint Beach ’08 sees dance as “a natural breeding ground of confidence and fun and teamwork and just being empowered.” Her nonprofit, STEM From Dance (opens in new window), uses the art form to engage girls of color in science, technology, engineering, and math.

    Occupying only 4% of the STEM workforce, Black and Latina women are vastly underrepresented in the field. To change this, we give minority girls the awareness and preparation for a STEM education—through the creative and confidence-building aspects of dance.
     
    http://www.freakingnews.com/pictures/27500/Albert-Einstein-as-Elvis-Presley--27639.jpg
    , @Pynchon's Utility Bill Comes Due
    @Mike_from_SGV

    "And all the laws and formulas named for Newton, Fermi, Green, Heisenberg, etc etc — will they all be erased or renamed? I would bet serious money that eventually, they will."

    They might not be renamed, but they will certainly be forgotten, just like the recipe for making cement was forgotten after the collapse of the Roman Empire. The New Dark Ages will not be televised cuz there won't be televisions (a minor blessing, one supposes).

    Imagine anyone, post-collapse, understanding the Helmholtz equation, or Maxwell's field equations, or, for that matter, any partial differential equation.

    Tis to laugh.

  55. @Charon
    @eah

    "There's a middle ground: let's do everything my way."

    Are there some pictures of POC tranny astronauts up there yet? Why are we ignoring their contributions hmm? How about Kalahari Bushmen, I mean Bushwomen? And where would we all be without Andrea Dworkin? Time we got started on this thing.

    Replies: @eah, @Lurker

    POC tranny astronauts

    Not yet.

    • Replies: @El Dato
    @eah

    I wanted to post this but I gave up.

    Back when "New Wave" Sci-Fi was in, I remember writing about unusual sexuality hidden behind a thin veneer of "space exploration". Barry Malzberg's "Beyond Apollo" for example sounded suspiciously like a obfuscation of male homosexual love (Captain, my Captain!), followed possibly by a killing, but cast into a story of the sole mad survivor being interrogated about the failed "exploration of Venus".

    It's like reality is being progressively eaten by those dreams.

    Replies: @Known Fact

  56. Like the other story about abolishing gifted programs in NYC schools, this one gives me hope. Now that the professional managerial class is fouling its own nest with this anti-White and anti-male garbage, maybe we can hope to see some effective resistance to it?

    If they had been able to maintain one set of rules for themselves and another for flyover people, they never would have stopped hammering us. I hope this cultural revolution they cooked up makes their lives hell for a long while.

    • Agree: Achmed E. Newman
    • Replies: @Cagey Beast
    @Cagey Beast

    Rereading my comment, I see I phrased it badly. I should not have said "they never would have stopped hammering us" because, as of this morning, they're still hammering us.

    , @Harry Baldwin
    @Cagey Beast

    According to a formulation by Lawrence Auster, the liberal will never recognize the damage for which their own policies are responsible.


    The liberal will recognize a threat to his society only after that society has been completely destroyed, if he ever recognizes it at all.

    The conservative recognizes a threat to his society only after it is too late to do anything about it.

    The traditionalist, or reactionary, recognizes a threat to his society the moment it arises.
     

    Replies: @El Dato, @Dan Hayes

  57. @Counterinsurgency

    On the whole, white men are hated today not for their sins but for their contributions.
     
    The white men of old built a European civilization that was so much better than that of other societies (even in the terms of these other societies) that the other societies destroyed their own social structure to be more like the European civilizations. Toynbee referred to this as imitation of a creative minority. Examples: Indian adoption of British bureaucratic forms and democracy, Russian and Chinese adoption of Communism, Turkey's adoption of non-Islamic secular government.

    Then, to their shock and horror, it turned out that the civilizations that had restructured themselves couldn't live in a European framework. They started changing back to a system more consistent with what their population thought of as common sense, more suitable to their capabilities and feelings.

    This varied by country, of course. Some countries never quite adopted Western government, but rather had it imposed upon them with very little participation by the native population. Others voluntarily adopted it with very little participation by Western personnel. Each, however, ended up by adopting a Western form of government that it is now in the process of rejecting.

    Immigrants to the US found themselves in the same situation, confronted with several American sociological groups that were not their own. At first there was significant conformity -- American Catholics became much more like American Protestants than they had been. Former black slaves developed a middle class of merchants, and a middle income class of service professionals (Coleman Porters, for example) that had been (and still are) utterly lacking in West Africa. The immigrants, to, are trying to transform American society into something more consistent with their feelings and abilities, because they can't live comfortably here. In many cases, thanks to selection by urban areas trying to import foreigners they can retain, they can't live in American society at all without being supported by the rest of American society. Even urban taxi drivers earn their living by providing services to people whose income is ultimately from tax money or political influence.

    Thus: the white men may have been responsible for making the entire population increase possible, hence making many billions of lives possible, _proximately_ most (almost all) of the increased populations can't live in a European derived society, and in fact have no economic function in their own society or any industrial society. Of course they hate the men who brought this situation about, just as they hat those who sustain it today. Hatred is the emotion engendered by threats to a person's life, and the whole of European society is a threat to the non-European's life, no matter where the non-European lives. [1]

    In fact, industrial society is becoming a threat to the European descendants themselves [2], and seems to be responsible for the decline of European populations.

    So

    1] Even Japan, perhaps the most successful of the adopters of Western forms, science, and engineering, has a population that is in significant decline. While it may be that Japan is simply dropping its own population back to a density and competition level that its population can sustain, the process of decline manifests itself as threats to individuals -- long work hours, social isolation, childlessness.

    2] https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-08-26/obamas-american-factory-film-backfires-exposes-damning-snapshot-american-labor

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon, @Anonymous, @Rob, @AnotherDad

    the other societies destroyed their own social structure to be more like the European civilizations“… “Russian and Chinese adoption of Communism

    There were zero European civilisations built on communism.

    In both cases communism triumphed after a war in which the country on its own was hammered, but allies triumphed over the enemy that hammered you. So your elites were to blame for the defeats, but your war-weary allies didn’t want badly enough to defend your existing elites against insurrection (the UK and France made a fist of fighting the Bolsheviks post-WWI, was there any such aid to Nationalist China?) .

    • Replies: @El Dato
    @YetAnotherAnon

    Remember that the communist insurrection in Paris was bloodily beaten back about 40 years before Lenin got his chance.

    No Twitter messages from that era remain.

    , @Counterinsurgency
    @YetAnotherAnon


    There were zero European civilisations built on communism.
     
    Quite correct. My meaning was, however, that the thought for communism _did_ come from the West geographically, although it was Jewish in origin (and treated that way by the Jewish establishment, who were quite proud of it as they are today). Russia, China, Vietnam, Cambodia all adopted Communism after the Communist party, in a multi-way fight for domination, won. So did some sub-Saharan African countries and Arab countries, even India (they called it "socialism"). The selling point seems to have been that Communism could _implement Western successes in a generation_. Non-Western countries actually believed this, mistaking Stalin's preparations for WW II with successful industrializtion. [1]

    So, no, Communism wasn't really Western, just as you say. It did use Hegel's historical razzle-dazze to look Western, but it was only geographically Western.
    OTH, that proved good enough to fool the Non-Western world, especially those parts of it familiar with a government largely independent of its base population. It attracted people to Mao, for example, as opposed to the KMT. Therefore i say that the adoption of Communist governments was the desire to mimic Western success, a desire so strong that even fake Western thought was supported.

    Counterinsurgency

    1] See: Suvorov, _Chief Culprit_, for a reasonable account of the WW II era from the Russian standpoint, one that is consistent with every other book I've read on that era and its aftermath. Stalin's industrialization produced a heavy industry good only for WW II preparation, a preparation that continued until AD 1990. Stalin's industrialization had to be almost entirely dismantled before civil industrialization could proceed.
    , @al gore rhythms
    @YetAnotherAnon

    There may not have been any European civilisations built on communism, but the philosophy itself was obviously the creation of and informed by European history and philosophy, and, for its devotees, promised to be the culmination of it.

    Many of those who adopted communism believed they were stealing a march on the West; that they were going to create a society that included the best of European civilisation but which also surpassed it. Doubtless the mental image they had of their future communist utopian selves would have included using Western derived technology, attending Western style universities, having a Western style house and all the rest of it.

    The rest of the world was still looking to Europe, including its ideas, for how to create a civilisation worth living in.

  58. @prime noticer
    do you think if the NBA logo wasn't a silhouette, that the players would have demanded it be changed 20 years ago? how many even realize it's Jerry West?

    solution: restore all the portraits, but make them nondescript solid color silhouettes, so nobody can see at a glance that they're all pale penis persons.

    Replies: @anonymous, @Joseph Doaks

    Well. All of them, actually.

    They call him “The Logo” and he is right this second still working as the most feared and respected executive in the NBA.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @anonymous

    Jerry West submarined his old Lakers a few weeks ago by keeping LeBron from getting Kahwi Leonard, instead getting him for the Clippers, where Jerry is working now.

  59. @El Dato
    OT: Aggressive Diversity Fetish causes PHP conference to be cancelled.

    Female-free speaker list causes PHP show to collapse when diversity-oriented devs jump ship: Presenters withdraw from the PHP Central Europe conference, show organizers call it quits


    Under the heading, "Diversity Matters!" the website for the PHP Central Europe developer conference (PHP.CE) says, "PHP Central Europe Conference is committed to creating a conference that is as inclusive as possible."

     

    As inclusive as possible but not more.

    But then ... someone notices something and "sparks a conversation" ...


    a July 17 Tweet from Karl Hughes, CTO of educational consultancy The Graide Network, chastises the conference for a speaker list made up entirely of white men.
     
    https://twitter.com/KarlLHughes/status/1151525811616387073

    [Larry Garfield, aka Crell, director of developer experience at Platform.sh ... planned to] work with conference organizers to subsidize travel costs, knowing that the expense of international travel might be deterring women and other underrepresented groups from submitting presentation proposals.
     
    This is probably called "busing" and "upholding the rights of so-called minorities to be overrepresented everywhere". (What kind of job title is "director of developer experience" anyway.)

    "Unfortunately, the organizers indicated they were not open to such an arrangement," wrote Garfield. "According to them, they had only a single woman submit a session proposal this year despite having women present in previous years, and hers was a repeat from a local conference last year. They were also firm that the Call For Papers was done and over and they're not open to reaching out to new people now."
     
    Well PHP is not exactly the hottest stuff in 2019.

    [Event manager] Grzesista has argued that diversity and inclusion are worthy goals but should not come at the expense of presentation quality.
     
    Oldthinker unbellyfeels forced DivSoc.

    On July 24, software developer Mark Baker said he too had decided to withdraw from speaking at the conference, citing similar reasons to Garfield ... "Diversity matters more to me than speaking."
     
    Welp!

    The Register asked one of those involved whether a few social media posts had really derailed the conference. The individual, who asked not to be named presumably because these issues generate more heat than light, suggested the cancellation may reflect poor ticket sales more than anything else.

    Yet public posts about the absence of women at a conference can affect ticket sales. As PHP Central Europe's Twitter account put it, "After Crell's action [blog post] our sales stopped completely…."
     

    https://twitter.com/phpce_eu/status/1165381240922484743?s=20

    Replies: @Charon, @bomag

    How important is such a conference if it is so easily derailed?

    I figured it is SOP that organizers call central casting for a woman or two of color and various genders/sexualities to give a talk about the female experience in the Zimbabwe bush meat trade while saying “code” several times. Should do it.

  60. Anonymous[388] • Disclaimer says:
    @Counterinsurgency

    On the whole, white men are hated today not for their sins but for their contributions.
     
    The white men of old built a European civilization that was so much better than that of other societies (even in the terms of these other societies) that the other societies destroyed their own social structure to be more like the European civilizations. Toynbee referred to this as imitation of a creative minority. Examples: Indian adoption of British bureaucratic forms and democracy, Russian and Chinese adoption of Communism, Turkey's adoption of non-Islamic secular government.

    Then, to their shock and horror, it turned out that the civilizations that had restructured themselves couldn't live in a European framework. They started changing back to a system more consistent with what their population thought of as common sense, more suitable to their capabilities and feelings.

    This varied by country, of course. Some countries never quite adopted Western government, but rather had it imposed upon them with very little participation by the native population. Others voluntarily adopted it with very little participation by Western personnel. Each, however, ended up by adopting a Western form of government that it is now in the process of rejecting.

    Immigrants to the US found themselves in the same situation, confronted with several American sociological groups that were not their own. At first there was significant conformity -- American Catholics became much more like American Protestants than they had been. Former black slaves developed a middle class of merchants, and a middle income class of service professionals (Coleman Porters, for example) that had been (and still are) utterly lacking in West Africa. The immigrants, to, are trying to transform American society into something more consistent with their feelings and abilities, because they can't live comfortably here. In many cases, thanks to selection by urban areas trying to import foreigners they can retain, they can't live in American society at all without being supported by the rest of American society. Even urban taxi drivers earn their living by providing services to people whose income is ultimately from tax money or political influence.

    Thus: the white men may have been responsible for making the entire population increase possible, hence making many billions of lives possible, _proximately_ most (almost all) of the increased populations can't live in a European derived society, and in fact have no economic function in their own society or any industrial society. Of course they hate the men who brought this situation about, just as they hat those who sustain it today. Hatred is the emotion engendered by threats to a person's life, and the whole of European society is a threat to the non-European's life, no matter where the non-European lives. [1]

    In fact, industrial society is becoming a threat to the European descendants themselves [2], and seems to be responsible for the decline of European populations.

    So

    1] Even Japan, perhaps the most successful of the adopters of Western forms, science, and engineering, has a population that is in significant decline. While it may be that Japan is simply dropping its own population back to a density and competition level that its population can sustain, the process of decline manifests itself as threats to individuals -- long work hours, social isolation, childlessness.

    2] https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-08-26/obamas-american-factory-film-backfires-exposes-damning-snapshot-american-labor

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon, @Anonymous, @Rob, @AnotherDad

    Even Japan, perhaps the most successful of the adopters of Western forms, science, and engineering, has a population that is in significant decline. While it may be that Japan is simply dropping its own population back to a density and competition level that its population can sustain, the process of decline manifests itself as threats to individuals — long work hours, social isolation, childlessness.

    Japan will be just fine without importing civilization-destroying Third World people.

    https://mainichi.jp/english/articles/20190825/p2a/00m/0fe/005000c#cxrecs_s

    Some hospitals in Japan imposing conditions for foreigners amid language, other concerns

    August 25, 2019

    TOKYO — While Japan has seen increases in the numbers of foreign workers and people visiting the country, some medical facilities have started to impose strict conditions for seeing non-Japanese patients.

    In at least one case, a facility serving as a hub for receiving foreign patients announced that it could turn foreigners away if it couldn’t confirm their residence status. Although non-Japanese could provide a new source of income for medical facilities, it appears that some hospitals are concerned about the risk of medical accidents stemming from language problems, as well as issues including the nonpayment of fees…

    In Tokyo’s Shinjuku Ward, which has the highest concentration of foreign residents among the capital’s 23 wards, at over 10 percent, one maternity clinic stated on its website that it limited patients to those who could speak a conversational level of Japanese. The reason was that misunderstandings over explanations on treatment could lead to serious medical accidents. The clinic says it turns away those without sufficient language proficiency even if they have an interpreter with them…

    Who are these well-regulated foreigners in Tokyo, who are a small minority?

    What nations are most represented in Tokyo’s foreigner population?
    The top five Asian countries by resident foreigner population are: China (with 199,949), Korea (90,438), Viet Nam (32,334), the Philippines (32,089), and Nepal (26,157).

    The top five European countries by resident foreigner population are: France (6,337), the United Kingdom (6,107), Germany (2,835), Russia (2,561), and Italy (1,848).

    The top three North American countries by resident foreigner population are: the United States (17,578), Canada (3,075), and Mexico (549).

    The top three South American countries by resident foreigner population are: Brazil (3,206), Peru (1,857), and Colombia (519).

    The top two Oceanian countries by resident foreigner population are: Australia (3,215) and New Zealand (852).

    The top three African countries by resident foreigner population are: Ghana (523), Nigeria (523), and Egypt (294).

    Largely NE Asian with a smattering of SE Asian and a sliver of educated white professionals and just a handful of non-white professionals.

    Japan will be just fine.

    • Replies: @jim jones
    @Anonymous

    I am impressed with the precision with which the Japanese know their immigrant numbers, here in the UK we only know their number to the nearest million.

  61. @anonymous
    @prime noticer

    Well. All of them, actually.


    They call him "The Logo" and he is right this second still working as the most feared and respected executive in the NBA.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    Jerry West submarined his old Lakers a few weeks ago by keeping LeBron from getting Kahwi Leonard, instead getting him for the Clippers, where Jerry is working now.

  62. @prime noticer
    do you think if the NBA logo wasn't a silhouette, that the players would have demanded it be changed 20 years ago? how many even realize it's Jerry West?

    solution: restore all the portraits, but make them nondescript solid color silhouettes, so nobody can see at a glance that they're all pale penis persons.

    Replies: @anonymous, @Joseph Doaks

    “Pale penis persons” — that’s great!

  63. There is nothing more frightful than ignorance in action.

    — Goethe

  64. @Cagey Beast
    Like the other story about abolishing gifted programs in NYC schools, this one gives me hope. Now that the professional managerial class is fouling its own nest with this anti-White and anti-male garbage, maybe we can hope to see some effective resistance to it?

    If they had been able to maintain one set of rules for themselves and another for flyover people, they never would have stopped hammering us. I hope this cultural revolution they cooked up makes their lives hell for a long while.

    Replies: @Cagey Beast, @Harry Baldwin

    Rereading my comment, I see I phrased it badly. I should not have said “they never would have stopped hammering us” because, as of this morning, they’re still hammering us.

  65. @Anonymous
    No.

    They are hated purely and simply for being white *and* male.

    Replies: @Sam Coulton, @Anonymous, @Kylie

    Replacement theory.

    And it will, of course, rapidly devolve back into quackery and rackets. Walk em in send the bill to medicare who unquestioningly pays, rinse repeat. Like the old country except you can get rich !

  66. @Edward
    As far as I’m aware, nothing like this is happening in medical schools in the United Kingdom. But where the US goes, the UK tends to follow. The point of having these portraits is surely to encourage current students, whatever the colour of their skin, to make great new strides in medicine.

    We are following the US in other domains, though. Only this year, affirmative action for working-class and “low-income” students was introduced at some of our most elite universities.

    On the other hand, the National Academy for Gifted and Talented Youth was scrapped in 2010, with the money being redirected to helping “disadvantaged” students. New grammar schools (for pupils with IQs in the top 25%) were banned almost two decades ago. So, in this domain, New York is perhaps following the UK. I’m just surprised Stuyvesant and other selective schools survived this long.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @J.Ross

    They dont have hostile jews pervading academia government and media on the scale of The United States. Make no mistake of the goal, displace, dispossess and ultimately subjugate the historic American peoples who created Harvard medical school and by extension the nation.

  67. @eah
    @Charon

    POC tranny astronauts

    Not yet.

    https://twitter.com/AFP/status/1165491692230721536

    Replies: @El Dato

    I wanted to post this but I gave up.

    Back when “New Wave” Sci-Fi was in, I remember writing about unusual sexuality hidden behind a thin veneer of “space exploration”. Barry Malzberg’s “Beyond Apollo” for example sounded suspiciously like a obfuscation of male homosexual love (Captain, my Captain!), followed possibly by a killing, but cast into a story of the sole mad survivor being interrogated about the failed “exploration of Venus”.

    It’s like reality is being progressively eaten by those dreams.

    • Replies: @Known Fact
    @El Dato

    Malzberg is the best -- he's Catch-22 in space. His "Opening Fire" is a classic quickie about a politically correct starship crew forced to include a bigot as a reality check.

  68. @YetAnotherAnon
    @Counterinsurgency

    "the other societies destroyed their own social structure to be more like the European civilizations"... "Russian and Chinese adoption of Communism"

    There were zero European civilisations built on communism.

    In both cases communism triumphed after a war in which the country on its own was hammered, but allies triumphed over the enemy that hammered you. So your elites were to blame for the defeats, but your war-weary allies didn't want badly enough to defend your existing elites against insurrection (the UK and France made a fist of fighting the Bolsheviks post-WWI, was there any such aid to Nationalist China?) .

    Replies: @El Dato, @Counterinsurgency, @al gore rhythms

    Remember that the communist insurrection in Paris was bloodily beaten back about 40 years before Lenin got his chance.

    No Twitter messages from that era remain.

  69. @Charon
    @Anonymous

    It's funny how you think either of those facts implies anything about Dr. Nabel's religious background. Here's some more.

    https://www.thejewishadvocate.com/articles/brigham-health-president-honored-by-israels-rambam/

    https://jonathanturley.org/2018/06/19/harvard/comment-page-1/

    Replies: @Kaganovitch, @ldhd

    She’s not Jewish, she was born Elizabeth Guenthner. Nabel is her husband,Gary’s name. He is from an Orthodox Jewish background.

  70. Anonymous[388] • Disclaimer says:
    @Mike_from_SGV
    That news out of Stanford ... wow. This is what Leftist Institution-Capture looks like. So will the minorities get help during tests? Will the separate-but-unequal-assistance scam continue into the upper level quantum mechanics courses? Will they rename the Schrodinger Equation because he was from that detestable demographic? And all the laws and formulas named for Newton, Fermi, Green, Heisenberg, etc etc -- will they all be erased or renamed? I would bet serious money that eventually, they will.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Pynchon's Utility Bill Comes Due

    Will they rename the Schrodinger Equation because he was from that detestable demographic? And all the laws and formulas named for Newton, Fermi, Green, Heisenberg, etc etc

    Come on dude, get real, like, it’s not about all that.

    From MIT’s Spotlight on Stem:

    http://web.mit.edu/spotlight/dancing-their-way-stem/#main

    Dancing their way to STEM

    Yamilée Toussaint Beach ’08 sees dance as “a natural breeding ground of confidence and fun and teamwork and just being empowered.” Her nonprofit, STEM From Dance (opens in new window), uses the art form to engage girls of color in science, technology, engineering, and math.

    Occupying only 4% of the STEM workforce, Black and Latina women are vastly underrepresented in the field. To change this, we give minority girls the awareness and preparation for a STEM education—through the creative and confidence-building aspects of dance.

  71. Envy is definitely at the root of most anti-white animus. In the US, everyone knows when driving through town what group dominates a neighborhood based on how orderly and clean it is, as well as what kind of businesses are there. The anti-gentrification crowd basically wants the amenities that pop up in areas where there are better incomes and less cultural dysfunction without actually practicing the behaviors that produce more stable communities. Same in the public education realm – even taking into account any variance in average cognitive ability, there is no question we have demographics that punch far below their weight. No one wants to face the truth about why they cannot have nice things.

    On a national level I don’t see much resentment from immigrants, but their kids are another matter.

    • Replies: @Counterinsurgency
    @Arclight


    On a national level I don’t see much resentment from immigrants, but their kids are another matter.
     
    Right. The immigrants themselves grew up i a country to which they were adapted by talents and feelings and upbringing. They can live in another society because they've already been formed, like plants growing in a jug.
    Their kids, though -- nothing here strikes them as right. East Asians say "not enough order." Other groups don't speak, they just try to tear the society down, for reasons they, themselves, about understand. Much of what they try, fails, they get acculturated and a bit insane.
    There is actually a description of that in literature -- take a look at James Blish, _A Case of Conscience_. Back then you could still say obviously true things in SF that were taboo in the rest of literature [1].

    Counterinsurgency

    1] R. A. Lafferty put it best, back then: Paraphrase: "When non-SF writers say that SF is 99% hack work, I reply 'Yes, but you're dead." That captures it perfectly. So: Blish, _Case of Consience_.

    Replies: @El Dato

    , @Mr. Rational
    @Arclight


    Same in the public education realm – even taking into account any variance in average cognitive ability, there is no question we have demographics that punch far below their weight. No one wants to face the truth about why they cannot have nice things.
     
    Everything that is not natural, like carefully-bred strains of crops or farm animals or orderly lawful settlements, is owned by the people who built them out of chaos.  If you cannot make nice things, you have no right to nice things.  The savage demographics need to be given a choice:  go back where you came from, or go to oblivion.  But GONE THEY MUST BE!  Civilization cannot survive otherwise.
  72. @NJ Transit Commuter
    Not a very religious person, but this shows you why Envy is one of the 7 deadly sins.

    Instead of rejoicing at the achievements of others, which resulted in reduced suffering for so many people, Envy makes you want to denigrate and destroy those accomplishments because they were not yours.

    Makes me very sad.

    Replies: @dr kill

    Envy is the most destructive emotional reaction possible, I’m certain it is the primary motivational driver in all human history, mostly with murderous consequences.

    • Replies: @AnotherDad
    @dr kill


    Envy is the most destructive emotional reaction possible, I’m certain it is the primary motivational driver in all human history, mostly with murderous consequences.
     
    I've always been more of a Sloth guy myself.

    But admittedly we sloth guys don't tend to be the real movers and shakers of human history.
    , @Peterike
    @dr kill

    “Envy is the most destructive emotional reaction possible, I’m certain it is the primary motivational driver in all human history, mostly with murderous consequences.”

    Agree. If you haven’t read it, get Helmut Schoeck’s “Envy.” Fascinating book that mirrors your comment in vast detail.

    , @Days of Broken Arrows
    @dr kill

    Excellent point. I've long thought someone needed to write an essay on envy as the driving force of human nature. This goes beyond ethnic or racial groups, though. You find it in moms vs. daughters, bosses vs. employees, and among pretty much everyone in "Brady Bunch"-type "blended families."

    The problem is that it's hard to call out. If you say "You're just jealous/envious of me" you come off looking like you're full of yourself. So you have to sit and nod while you get dressed down for succeeding at something. The sooner kids learn this is what drives adults, the better of they will be. Envy doesn't go away just because the Valley Girls of high school went away. It takes on different and more sinister forms.

  73. Resentment and hatred of the more-accomplished/capable by the less-accomplished/capable seems to be a longstanding human problem. You see it in the old legend of Cain and Abel. If this mentality once lived only in the margins of society, now it seems to be the organizing principle of all major institutions in the US. The de-platforming of the portraits is just one of innumerable examples. The practical response is to minimize our interaction with, and financial support of, Left-captured institutions. Admittedly this is not always possible.

  74. The resentful attempt to conceal white male accomplishments since the Renaissance continues, but everybody is willing to benefit from them. There is hypocrisy at work.

  75. @Buzz Mohawk
    Another depressing post. The stupidity has reached the highest levels.

    Replies: @Kronos, @Cowboy shaw, @The Anti-Gnostic

    Don’t worry. It will all be over soon.

  76. @bomag
    @Peter Johnson


    Other courses offered to bridge the supposed diversity problem at Stanford include two one-unit physics courses that address not physics itself, but rather concepts of diversity within the discipline.

    “Physics 94SI: Diverse Perspectives in Physics” is a seminar course in which “physics faculty members from diverse backgrounds share the story of their lives and careers.”

    Physics majors can earn academic credit by learning “what it is like to be a female professor” or “a faculty member raised first-generation/low income.” The course takes place “over lunch” and consists of a discussion of the “lives and career trajectories” of various “diverse” professors.

    A similar course, titled “Physics 93SI: Beyond the Laboratory: Physics, Identity and Society,” is led by students, rather than professors. In this course, physics majors can earn academic credit by generally exploring “issues of diversity and culture in physics,” by applying concepts such as “critical race theory.” An optional extension of the class allows students to receive additional credit for developing a workshop to teach high school students about “inclusion in science.”
     
    Knife, meet organ.

    Replies: @nokangaroos

    I wish to formally apologize for ever thinking that “German Physics” was pathetic 😛

  77. Students today are taught that the large number of white, male, European-ancestry people who made important contributions to all of the arts and sciences are on the wall of fame ONLY because they just happened to be the ones with extra resources (stolen from PoCs!) and had their eyes open. Those discoveries were like ripe, low-hanging fruit – anyone could have picked them!

    I’m just waiting for Lin-Manuel Miranda‘s new play Newton to appear on Broadway. Isaac Newton, Gottfried Wilhelm Leibniz, Joseph-Louis Lagrange, Robert Hooke, John Locke all played by rapping black guys.

    • Replies: @Ancient Briton
    @Anon7

    Just browsing through Google 'phyicists' shows a picture of Neil deG Tyson next to Newton, Bohr, et al.

    Replies: @Cloudbuster, @Art Deco

  78. @El Dato
    @eah

    Someone with a failure degree is unhappy:

    https://twitter.com/Juan_LunaDD/status/1117151626567962624

    Replies: @AndrewR, @Altai

    I guarantee he likes the members of white men to be “shoved” into his orifaces.

  79. “Long thread coming with my thoughts about it.”

    I’m guessing “But Tuskegee”.

  80. Examining the comments the entirety of the medical profession appears to have been conditioned to either (a) mouth ideological claptrap for self-promotion or (b) actually believes it. Do we really want to go to doctors that are (a) liars or (b) foolish. Perhaps the real reason to take down the photographs will be because in the future all the prize winners will be in Beijing and HMS of 2050 won’t look so good!

  81. @El Dato
    @istevefan

    Because Jews make everything better!


    magisterial portraits only reinforce it
     
    Liberal Magical Thought in Action: Reality is controlled by wall decorations.

    When will the blackening of fundamental physics start?

    Replies: @Peter Johnson, @fish, @Thirdtwin

    Liberal Magical Thought in Action: Reality is controlled by wall decorations.

    Stolen……!!

  82. And yet somehow I suspect that Dr. Nagel’s portrait will end up being displayed on a wall at Harvard. Funny how that works.

  83. @Peter Johnson
    @El Dato

    The blackening of theoretical physics has already begun, with Stanford leading the charge:

    https://www.campusreform.org/?ID=13615

    Replies: @bomag, @Mr. Anon, @MarkinLA

    Physics is fixing to become massively SJWized. The trade publications for APS and AIP are increasingly full of diversity-this, LGBT-that, inclusion-the-other. There have already been calls for what would be tantamount to quotas in hiring. Even the physical sciences will end up becoming just another academic grift.

  84. Gotta love the Indians commenting in that thread. Dudes (or their parents or grandparents) move from country where they are in the majority to a country where they are in the minority, then complain about being in the minority, and about not being “reflected” in that country’s past.

    Yesterday I was reading an article in the Washington Post (iirc) about the “1619 Project.” The black writer wrote that blacks belonged “at the center” of American history, despite their intellectual contributions almost nowhere, and despite the fact that shitloads of work – the vast majority of it, in fact – done to build this country was done by whites.

    I have reached the point where I’m no longer going to hold back my arguments for the sake of anyone’s feelings. If people on the Left are going to keep talking about Jim Crow and slavery non-stop, even though most white people alive had nothing whatsoever to do with either, we need to start talking about black criminality, murder rates, high school dropout rates, STD rates, illegitimacy rates, and all the rest.

    No one gives a shit if talking about slavery non-stop affects the feelings of whites. We have to talk about them as a society “because they’re true.” Well so are black murder and illegitimacy rates, and those persist across national boundaries without regard to “the legacy of slavery and Jim Crow,” so that won’t qualify as an excuse.

    BTW Steve, August fundraiser contribution incoming. Thanks for all that you do.

    • Replies: @jsm
    @Wilkey


    I have reached the point where I’m no longer going to hold back my arguments for the sake of anyone’s feelings.
     
    Good on ya; making nice progress.

    I'm a step ahead. I am now at the point of, "Racist? You say that like it's a bad thing."

    (Thanks, SVigor!!)
  85. Flier-Federick? I don’t wholeheartedly agree with Woodrow Wilson’s “hyphens are daggers” speech, but it is probably true 95% of the time when it comes to surnames.

    I am sure there are a few traditional Englishmen whose ancestors took to combo names for the purposes of acquiring inheritances, but I have never met one.

    • Replies: @Nachum
    @songbird

    I think "anyone with a hyphenated last name" was on PJ O'Rourke's Enemies List.

    Replies: @songbird

    , @Nachum
    @songbird

    "Frederick" could mean Jewish or not. I wonder what it is in this case.

    Replies: @kaganovitch

  86. 1. White women are the natural and eternal enemy of the average White man.

    2. White men can either be masters or slaves. Those are the only choices.

    Whip hand or the gulag. Pick one.

  87. @FlierDoc
    @Harry Baldwin

    Exactly this. Scroll through the good doctor's twitter feed and you will lose any sympathy that you may have had for him after reading the article. He's getting exactly what he deserves for coddling the left.

    Replies: @Wilkey

    Exactly this. Scroll through the good doctor’s twitter feed and you will lose any sympathy that you may have had for him after reading the article. He’s getting exactly what he deserves for coddling the left.

    Remember that Yale professor who was screamed at to “shut up” over something his wife wrote about Halloween costumes? He and his wife had made multiple donations to Democratic candidates, including Hillary and Obama. They have made at least one contribution to a Democrat since, and of course have never made any to Republicans.

    Some people never learn.

  88. @Charon
    @eah

    "There's a middle ground: let's do everything my way."

    Are there some pictures of POC tranny astronauts up there yet? Why are we ignoring their contributions hmm? How about Kalahari Bushmen, I mean Bushwomen? And where would we all be without Andrea Dworkin? Time we got started on this thing.

    Replies: @eah, @Lurker

    And where would we all be without Andrea Dworkin?

    With a lot more elbow room on the bus?

  89. @Wilkey
    Gotta love the Indians commenting in that thread. Dudes (or their parents or grandparents) move from country where they are in the majority to a country where they are in the minority, then complain about being in the minority, and about not being "reflected" in that country's past.

    Yesterday I was reading an article in the Washington Post (iirc) about the "1619 Project." The black writer wrote that blacks belonged "at the center" of American history, despite their intellectual contributions almost nowhere, and despite the fact that shitloads of work - the vast majority of it, in fact - done to build this country was done by whites.

    I have reached the point where I'm no longer going to hold back my arguments for the sake of anyone's feelings. If people on the Left are going to keep talking about Jim Crow and slavery non-stop, even though most white people alive had nothing whatsoever to do with either, we need to start talking about black criminality, murder rates, high school dropout rates, STD rates, illegitimacy rates, and all the rest.

    No one gives a shit if talking about slavery non-stop affects the feelings of whites. We have to talk about them as a society "because they're true." Well so are black murder and illegitimacy rates, and those persist across national boundaries without regard to "the legacy of slavery and Jim Crow," so that won't qualify as an excuse.

    BTW Steve, August fundraiser contribution incoming. Thanks for all that you do.

    Replies: @jsm

    I have reached the point where I’m no longer going to hold back my arguments for the sake of anyone’s feelings.

    Good on ya; making nice progress.

    I’m a step ahead. I am now at the point of, “Racist? You say that like it’s a bad thing.”

    (Thanks, SVigor!!)

  90. @YetAnotherAnon
    @Counterinsurgency

    "the other societies destroyed their own social structure to be more like the European civilizations"... "Russian and Chinese adoption of Communism"

    There were zero European civilisations built on communism.

    In both cases communism triumphed after a war in which the country on its own was hammered, but allies triumphed over the enemy that hammered you. So your elites were to blame for the defeats, but your war-weary allies didn't want badly enough to defend your existing elites against insurrection (the UK and France made a fist of fighting the Bolsheviks post-WWI, was there any such aid to Nationalist China?) .

    Replies: @El Dato, @Counterinsurgency, @al gore rhythms

    There were zero European civilisations built on communism.

    Quite correct. My meaning was, however, that the thought for communism _did_ come from the West geographically, although it was Jewish in origin (and treated that way by the Jewish establishment, who were quite proud of it as they are today). Russia, China, Vietnam, Cambodia all adopted Communism after the Communist party, in a multi-way fight for domination, won. So did some sub-Saharan African countries and Arab countries, even India (they called it “socialism”). The selling point seems to have been that Communism could _implement Western successes in a generation_. Non-Western countries actually believed this, mistaking Stalin’s preparations for WW II with successful industrializtion. [1]

    So, no, Communism wasn’t really Western, just as you say. It did use Hegel’s historical razzle-dazze to look Western, but it was only geographically Western.
    OTH, that proved good enough to fool the Non-Western world, especially those parts of it familiar with a government largely independent of its base population. It attracted people to Mao, for example, as opposed to the KMT. Therefore i say that the adoption of Communist governments was the desire to mimic Western success, a desire so strong that even fake Western thought was supported.

    Counterinsurgency

    1] See: Suvorov, _Chief Culprit_, for a reasonable account of the WW II era from the Russian standpoint, one that is consistent with every other book I’ve read on that era and its aftermath. Stalin’s industrialization produced a heavy industry good only for WW II preparation, a preparation that continued until AD 1990. Stalin’s industrialization had to be almost entirely dismantled before civil industrialization could proceed.

  91. @Arclight
    Envy is definitely at the root of most anti-white animus. In the US, everyone knows when driving through town what group dominates a neighborhood based on how orderly and clean it is, as well as what kind of businesses are there. The anti-gentrification crowd basically wants the amenities that pop up in areas where there are better incomes and less cultural dysfunction without actually practicing the behaviors that produce more stable communities. Same in the public education realm - even taking into account any variance in average cognitive ability, there is no question we have demographics that punch far below their weight. No one wants to face the truth about why they cannot have nice things.

    On a national level I don't see much resentment from immigrants, but their kids are another matter.

    Replies: @Counterinsurgency, @Mr. Rational

    On a national level I don’t see much resentment from immigrants, but their kids are another matter.

    Right. The immigrants themselves grew up i a country to which they were adapted by talents and feelings and upbringing. They can live in another society because they’ve already been formed, like plants growing in a jug.
    Their kids, though — nothing here strikes them as right. East Asians say “not enough order.” Other groups don’t speak, they just try to tear the society down, for reasons they, themselves, about understand. Much of what they try, fails, they get acculturated and a bit insane.
    There is actually a description of that in literature — take a look at James Blish, _A Case of Conscience_. Back then you could still say obviously true things in SF that were taboo in the rest of literature [1].

    Counterinsurgency

    1] R. A. Lafferty put it best, back then: Paraphrase: “When non-SF writers say that SF is 99% hack work, I reply ‘Yes, but you’re dead.” That captures it perfectly. So: Blish, _Case of Consience_.

    • Replies: @El Dato
    @Counterinsurgency

    That's a classic though I have to admit I never read it.

    Somewhat reimagined in Mary Doria Russell's "The Sparrow": http://www.infinityplus.co.uk/nonfiction/sparjdo.htm

  92. I’m sure he’ll cave but I just read his first reply-tweets and they’re pretty good:

    1/3 Showing respect for past contributions isn’t putting on pedestal. Hardly so. When I was young and years before, anti-semitism kept many Jews out of medicine or raised bar for success. Yet I never thought to take down pics of some famous Christian docs. Focused on my own path.

    2/3 Harvey Cushing founded neurosurgery as a specialty at Brigham. Amazing figure in medical history. If you read his biography by M Bliss, you see he was an anti-Semite. I had his portrait in my deans office. Next to Herman Blumgart, one of first Jewish professors. Loved to discuss.

    3/3 His history was a matter of fact. Cannot be erased. Must be remembered, discussed, and be a source of wisdom and strength for the future.

    Of course he may not be aware yet how insane the yunguns are. If they clarify it for him I’m sure he’ll cave and qualify and apologize. The yunguns are scary.

  93. @syonredux
    These portraits of White men are bad juju......


    Academic Science Rethinks All-Too-White 'Dude Walls' Of Honor


    A few years ago, TV celebrity Rachel Maddow was at Rockefeller University to hand out a prize that's given each year to a prominent female scientist. As Maddow entered the auditorium, someone overheard her say, "What is up with the dude wall?"
     

    Vosshall says Maddow's remark, and the word "dude wall," crystallized something that had been bothering her for years. As she travels around the country to give lectures and attend conferences at scientific institutions, she constantly encounters lobbies, conference rooms, passageways, and lecture halls that are decorated with portraits of white men.
     

    It just sends the message, every day when you walk by it, that science consists of old white men," says Vosshall. "I think every institution needs to go out into the hallway and ask, 'What kind of message are we sending with these oil portraits and dusty old photographs?'"

     


    "I don't necessarily always have a reaction. But then there are times when you're having a really bad day — someone says something racist to you, or you're struggling with feeling like you belong in the space — and then you see all those photos and it kind of reinforces whatever you might have been feeling at the time," says Max Jordan Nguemeni Tiako, a medical student at Yale.
     

     He grew up reading Harry Potter books, and in that fictional world, portraits can talk to the characters. "If this was Harry Potter," he muses, "if they could speak, what would they even say to me? Everywhere you study, there's a big portrait somewhere of someone kind of staring you down."
     

    "Students felt like these portraits were not just ancient, historic things that had nothing to do with their contemporary experience," says Anderson. "They actually felt that the portraits reinforced contemporary issues of exclusion, of racial discrimination — of othering."
     

    Replies: @BB753, @bomag, @El Dato, @Federalist

    A few years ago, TV celebrity Rachel Maddow was at Rockefeller University to hand out a prize that’s given each year to a prominent female scientist. As Maddow entered the auditorium, someone overheard her say, “What is up with the dude wall?

    Pretty amazing that Rachel Maddow is invited to do anything except work in some dusty archive. The culture of what can charitably be called “celebrity”, innit?

    Rachel Maddow Speaks at the 2015 Pearl Meister Greengard Prize

    Everything is really, really, completely broken.

    Then you notice that Mr. Greengard, who is being fêted here due to his instituting the Greengard Prize for his support of women scientists, has made an Iranian rich:

    https://nypost.com/2007/06/03/bias-suit-slaps-city-nobel-prof/

    Emamian said she was recruited in 2004 and promised support for her research but was paid less than male scientists of lower standing.

    “Women in science have always been discriminated against,” Emamian said.

    In April 2005, her colleague Marc Flajolet sent an e-mail to the entire lab calling Emamian, raised Muslim in Iran, a “camel driver,” the suit states.

    Later:

    Today, a federal jury in the Southern District of New York found The Rockefeller University liable for discrimination based on race and national origin in its treatment of Dr. Effat Emamian—a young scientist from Iran. Dr. Emamian worked for Rockefeller from 2001 until she was refused re-appointment in August 2007. After three days of deliberation, the jury awarded Dr. Emamian, $2.25 million in damages. Dr. Emamian was subjected to this discrimination while researching cellular and molecular neuroscience in the lab of, and under the supervision of, Dr. Paul Greengard, a Nobel Prize Laureate in Medicine.

    Getting 2.25 million USD via a lazy discrimination lawsuit is certainly better than not getting 100’000 USD via hard work and a Greengard prize. A case of you bet your money and you take your chances?

  94. @Jenner Ickham Errican
    https://www.bostonglobe.com/resizer/HBkL2ArlX2uK7NBXSAp5BCd4DNU=/960x0/arc-anglerfish-arc2-prod-bostonglobe.s3.amazonaws.com/public/GOO3SBDOQII6RNGY5L3Y2TCUJQ.jpg

    the Bornstein auditorium at one of America’s great research hospitals has been purged of portraits of heroes of medical sciences
     
    When that news was first announced I was so pissed off I had to bust out the (((parentheses))) more than once. Good for Dr. Flier, who I presume is Jewish, to belatedly speak up, but here’s the witch who decided to remove the portraits— President of Brigham and Women’s Hospital, Dr. Betsy Nabel:

    https://www.broadinstitute.org/files/styles/biosketch__413x315_/public/bios/photos/Elizabeth%20Nabel.jpg

    https://www.nih.gov/sites/default/files/styles/featured_media_breakpoint-medium/public/about-nih/nih-director/statements/collins/Nabel.jpg

    Replies: @Cowboy shaw, @Anonymous, @ldhd, @Save the Castelmans, @JudgeSmails, @JudgeSmails

    She looks very very )))not Jewish(((.

  95. @Sam Coulton
    @Anonymous

    No, it's just for being white males. "White" women aren't really white anyway, being in the same league with gypsies and other low-order nonwhites.

    Replies: @El Dato

    So for”white” women it’s either being Jewish or Gypsy/Low-Order Nonwhite?

    Makes sense.

  96. @Charon
    @Anonymous

    It's funny how you think either of those facts implies anything about Dr. Nabel's religious background. Here's some more.

    https://www.thejewishadvocate.com/articles/brigham-health-president-honored-by-israels-rambam/

    https://jonathanturley.org/2018/06/19/harvard/comment-page-1/

    Replies: @Kaganovitch, @ldhd

    You’re speaking from the sort of proud ignorance that only the dumb can attain. The majority of those who have received the award in recent years have not been Jewish. And Nabel isn’t either.

    • Replies: @Charon
    @ldhd

    Nowhere did I say or even imply that Nabel is jewish. I merely showed "Anonymous" how links can easily mislead. Your first line is ironic, to say the least, but I doubt you can see that.

    With only two posts, you're clearly yet another frenzied tracker of slight hints of anti-semitism. We have dozens...You'll fit in well here. Try under your bed maybe?

  97. @Cagey Beast
    Like the other story about abolishing gifted programs in NYC schools, this one gives me hope. Now that the professional managerial class is fouling its own nest with this anti-White and anti-male garbage, maybe we can hope to see some effective resistance to it?

    If they had been able to maintain one set of rules for themselves and another for flyover people, they never would have stopped hammering us. I hope this cultural revolution they cooked up makes their lives hell for a long while.

    Replies: @Cagey Beast, @Harry Baldwin

    According to a formulation by Lawrence Auster, the liberal will never recognize the damage for which their own policies are responsible.

    The liberal will recognize a threat to his society only after that society has been completely destroyed, if he ever recognizes it at all.

    The conservative recognizes a threat to his society only after it is too late to do anything about it.

    The traditionalist, or reactionary, recognizes a threat to his society the moment it arises.

    • Replies: @El Dato
    @Harry Baldwin

    All three mixed in one long scene, with a serving of Becky on the side.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z7Ae-D7WiBo

    , @Dan Hayes
    @Harry Baldwin

    Harry Baldwin:

    I'm always in awe of Auster's quotes. Sam Francis leaves me the same way: in awe of their on-the-mark succinctness and profundity. Both Auster and Francis are sorely missed.

  98. almost all these giants were white men

    Maybe this is a place to note which ones were Jews. If they’re going to get blames, they also ought to get credit when due.

  99. Anonymous[388] • Disclaimer says:

    https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-49469225

    ‘Rosalind Franklin’ Mars rover assembly completed

    Engineers at Airbus in Stevenage, UK, displayed the finished vehicle on Tuesday ahead of its shipment to France for testing.

    Called “Rosalind Franklin” after the British DNA pioneer, the six-wheeled robot will search for life on Mars…

    China and the US are preparing their own rovers for launch in the same departure window as Rosalind Franklin…

    Rosalind Franklin was “superb scientific tool”, said David Parker, Esa’s director of human and robotic exploration…

    Currently, there is concern over the readiness of the parachute system that will slow Rosalind Franklin’s descent through Mars’ atmosphere to the surface…

    With Rosalind Franklin now about to depart the country, there’s intense interest in a follow-up…

    Rosalind Franklin was a Jewess who helped in part deciphering the structure of DNA.

    I wonder if they’ll ever name a spacecraft after the late Francis Crick or the living James Watson who won the Nobel Prize in Medicine for actually discovering the DNA structure? I doubt it. Both were advocates of positive eugenics.

    • Replies: @Nachum
    @Anonymous

    We're supposed to all feel really guilty, for some reason, that Franklin died before Watson and Crick got the Nobel, and the Nobel never goes to dead people. (The assumption is that Franklin would have shared it. I have no idea if that's true.)

    It goes without saying that Franklin had nothing to do with space exploration. But why should that matter?

    , @El Dato
    @Anonymous


    With Rosalind Franklin now about to depart the country, there’s intense interest in a follow-up…
     
    I laughed.

    Is this the first robot named after an actual person?

    The last time the Brits attempted something on Mars they called the device "Beagle". It went shtum immediately after touchdown.

    What if Rosalind Franklin crashes?

    It has a drill to burrow 2m below ground to try to detect the presence of microbes, either living or fossilised.
     
    They could have called it "Dr.Drillinger" or "BurrowBot" but no ...

    The roughly 300kg Rosalind Franklin rover is being bagged and boxed...
     
    Let the jokes begin!
  100. https://www.insidehighered.com/news/2018/11/12/former-harvard-deans-tweet-against-required-faculty-diversity-statements-sets-debate

    Flier was born in 1948, completed his medical training around 1978, and retired in 2016. The tiresome bint he sired was born in 1989 and started her residency at Beth Israel Deaconess Medical Center in 2016. Cannot help but suspect he bears some responsibility for his predicament.

  101. @BB753
    @syonredux

    Only a fool or a madman (madperson?) would think that a portrait hanging on a wall gives a message or is "othering" him, whatever that means. These people don't deserve a college, let alone a medical degree.

    Replies: @al gore rhythms

    If they replace all those pictures with new pictures of people of colour, wouldn’t you think they were sending you a message? It’s not always crazy to think that that is the case.

    The difference is of course that the white men on the wall only had their picture up there because they had done something of merit. No-one had the intention of ‘othering’ ethnic minorities. Whereas if the pictures are replaced by PC non-entities, it will be done for political purposes.

    So perhaps part of the problem with liberals and non-whites is that they judge the white world of yesterday by their own petty, vengeful standards.

    • Agree: BB753
    • Replies: @415 reasons
    @al gore rhythms

    Indeed they sent a message: “We remember the achievements of those who came before us.” Taking them down sends an equal, opposite, odious message that is perfectly in tune with the current year: “Your feelings of grievance with the way the world works are more important than everything else.”

    , @Reg Cæsar
    @al gore rhythms


    If they replace all those pictures with new pictures of people of colour...
     
    What those walls could use is some seclusion room padding.


    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bSpX9PtxwH0
    , @ThreeCranes
    @al gore rhythms

    Exactly.

    She speaks more truth than she intended when she says that she has little in common with them; they who were brilliant, worked doggedly and had accomplished much.

  102. @Harry Baldwin
    @Cagey Beast

    According to a formulation by Lawrence Auster, the liberal will never recognize the damage for which their own policies are responsible.


    The liberal will recognize a threat to his society only after that society has been completely destroyed, if he ever recognizes it at all.

    The conservative recognizes a threat to his society only after it is too late to do anything about it.

    The traditionalist, or reactionary, recognizes a threat to his society the moment it arises.
     

    Replies: @El Dato, @Dan Hayes

    All three mixed in one long scene, with a serving of Becky on the side.

  103. anonymous[422] • Disclaimer says:
    @Harry Baldwin
    Older, well-meaning liberals like Dr. Jeffrey Flier are still under the impression that today's progressives can be reasoned with, that they can be met halfway. In his article he makes suggestions:

    Removing all the historic amphitheater portraits — leaving bare walls in their place for the past year — won’t advance diversity. What might? An array of art that reflects today’s rapidly changing physician leadership, while recognizing essential but less male-dominated health-related professions, such as nursing and social work.

    Perhaps a rotating subset of older portraits displayed alongside newly commissioned works — with the reasons for the choices conveyed in historically informed commentary. As images of women and minorities join those of past leaders, the divide between limited past diversity and the more diverse present would diminish. And importantly, newly configured portraiture could provide an essential lesson: that diversity and inclusion are hard-won victories that should neither be hidden nor taken for granted.
     
    Dr. Flier doesn't understand what he is dealing with. It's not only about celebrating minorities, but about vilifying white males. As long as there is a portrait of a white male whose achievements dwarf that of the minorities, the progressives will be angry. His own daughter will make that clear to him.

    Replies: @FlierDoc, @anonymous

    During Jeffrey Flier’s tenure as Dean of HMS, he was considered by many to be a disaster. Harvard finally got rid of him after nine years and, in his official portrait (after his ouster), he is extending a middle finger on one of his hands.

    I disagree that Flier is a well meaning liberal, he could be considered in the mold of the typical obsequious weasel out for his own advancement. He’s now lamenting the “changes” going on regarding these portraits and what de Blasio wants to do with the selective exam schools but he participated in the culture that resulted in these “changes”.

    Could it be due to nepotism how his daughter, Lydia, got admitted into HMS?

  104. @El Dato
    @eah

    Someone with a failure degree is unhappy:

    https://twitter.com/Juan_LunaDD/status/1117151626567962624

    Replies: @AndrewR, @Altai

    He’s got the same sneering grin they all have. Like a little sibling hitting an older one who knows he is too small for the older one to properly retaliate. He is revelling in his provocations whilst denying they are provocations. Part of that is also just the BPD endemic to hardcore SJWs.

    That’s kind of the pose for all these people, particularly feminists, these days.

  105. After reading this, I’m more supportive of Medicare for all

  106. @Anonymous
    No.

    They are hated purely and simply for being white *and* male.

    Replies: @Sam Coulton, @Anonymous, @Kylie

    “They are hated purely and simply for being white *and* male.”

    Wrong. They are hated for being white, male high achievers. The hatred is based on envy.

    • Replies: @El Dato
    @Kylie

    Also the belief that progress can be pulled out of one's anus at a moment's notice and the search tree revealed by history doesn't matter.

    Civilization crashes? No problem, just look it up again on Wikipedia. How hard can it be?

    Everyone is a superhero just waiting to be activated.

  107. @YetAnotherAnon
    @Counterinsurgency

    "the other societies destroyed their own social structure to be more like the European civilizations"... "Russian and Chinese adoption of Communism"

    There were zero European civilisations built on communism.

    In both cases communism triumphed after a war in which the country on its own was hammered, but allies triumphed over the enemy that hammered you. So your elites were to blame for the defeats, but your war-weary allies didn't want badly enough to defend your existing elites against insurrection (the UK and France made a fist of fighting the Bolsheviks post-WWI, was there any such aid to Nationalist China?) .

    Replies: @El Dato, @Counterinsurgency, @al gore rhythms

    There may not have been any European civilisations built on communism, but the philosophy itself was obviously the creation of and informed by European history and philosophy, and, for its devotees, promised to be the culmination of it.

    Many of those who adopted communism believed they were stealing a march on the West; that they were going to create a society that included the best of European civilisation but which also surpassed it. Doubtless the mental image they had of their future communist utopian selves would have included using Western derived technology, attending Western style universities, having a Western style house and all the rest of it.

    The rest of the world was still looking to Europe, including its ideas, for how to create a civilisation worth living in.

  108. First thought: the current dean doesn’t seem to get why institutions are prestigious. It’s because of the people! Both the people currently there, and those who were there. It’s not about real estate or buildings. Erasing history like this is actively harming the prestige of your university, and while you may think there will always be a Harvard…

    Second thought: A lot of ‘prestige’ universities have developed reputations for producing clinically incompetent residents. Stanford was probably the worst offender but they seem to have cleaned up their act. I don’t really know why this is but I would speculate that these places are selecting for a skill set that is not reflective of the actual skill set required to do good clinical work.

    Third thought: this rot has been developing for a long, long time. In academic medicine you are like a government employee cubed–you are employed by a hospital which is often an arm of the state; even if you work at a private hospital it is funded largely by government programs such as medicare and medicaid, and to advance your career you do research, the success of which is generally determined by the amount of grant money you bring in. Not surprisingly, academic physicians start to act like a hybrid of a government employee and a pandering politician.

    • Replies: @Moses
    @SimpleSong


    A lot of ‘prestige’ universities have developed reputations for producing clinically incompetent residents.

     

    A doctor buddy of mine has been practicing for 20 years.

    Recently he told me he finally realized that medicine primarily is a people and communication discipline, and only secondarily a science one.

    In other words, without ppl and communication skills it’s tough to be a good clinician.

    I doubt the academic hospitals select for that.
  109. Despite Lydia still being a medical student, she looks very much like an old lady.

  110. But if you talk about white genocide, you’re a “conspiracy theorist”!

  111. @Anonymous

    https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-49469225

    'Rosalind Franklin' Mars rover assembly completed

    Engineers at Airbus in Stevenage, UK, displayed the finished vehicle on Tuesday ahead of its shipment to France for testing.

    Called "Rosalind Franklin" after the British DNA pioneer, the six-wheeled robot will search for life on Mars...

    China and the US are preparing their own rovers for launch in the same departure window as Rosalind Franklin...

    Rosalind Franklin was "superb scientific tool", said David Parker, Esa's director of human and robotic exploration...

    Currently, there is concern over the readiness of the parachute system that will slow Rosalind Franklin's descent through Mars' atmosphere to the surface...

    With Rosalind Franklin now about to depart the country, there's intense interest in a follow-up...

     

    Rosalind Franklin was a Jewess who helped in part deciphering the structure of DNA.

    I wonder if they’ll ever name a spacecraft after the late Francis Crick or the living James Watson who won the Nobel Prize in Medicine for actually discovering the DNA structure? I doubt it. Both were advocates of positive eugenics.

    Replies: @Nachum, @El Dato

    We’re supposed to all feel really guilty, for some reason, that Franklin died before Watson and Crick got the Nobel, and the Nobel never goes to dead people. (The assumption is that Franklin would have shared it. I have no idea if that’s true.)

    It goes without saying that Franklin had nothing to do with space exploration. But why should that matter?

  112. @songbird
    Flier-Federick? I don't wholeheartedly agree with Woodrow Wilson's "hyphens are daggers" speech, but it is probably true 95% of the time when it comes to surnames.

    I am sure there are a few traditional Englishmen whose ancestors took to combo names for the purposes of acquiring inheritances, but I have never met one.

    Replies: @Nachum, @Nachum

    I think “anyone with a hyphenated last name” was on PJ O’Rourke’s Enemies List.

    • Replies: @songbird
    @Nachum

    Haven't read that one, but I have read Parliament of Whores and one or two others. Sounds like an interesting title. Reminds me of something HL Mencken might have chosen.

  113. @istevefan
    Why would this guy question if any Jews were in the portraits?

    Not only that - no fighters for justice, no one who worked in trenches, etc. Distinguished, but selective. One of biggest unrecognized problems we have now is rift between academia and practice, and magisterial portraits only reinforce it. Any Jews there, btw? @Paulflevy— Budd Shenkin (@BuddShenkin) April 13, 2019
     

    Replies: @El Dato, @Nachum

    Isn’t it obvious? To imply that anyone defending the portraits is an anti-Semite, and that no Jew (like Flier) should defend them.

    Odds are there were plenty of Jews up there, but who cares about facts?

  114. @Mike_from_SGV
    That news out of Stanford ... wow. This is what Leftist Institution-Capture looks like. So will the minorities get help during tests? Will the separate-but-unequal-assistance scam continue into the upper level quantum mechanics courses? Will they rename the Schrodinger Equation because he was from that detestable demographic? And all the laws and formulas named for Newton, Fermi, Green, Heisenberg, etc etc -- will they all be erased or renamed? I would bet serious money that eventually, they will.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Pynchon's Utility Bill Comes Due

    “And all the laws and formulas named for Newton, Fermi, Green, Heisenberg, etc etc — will they all be erased or renamed? I would bet serious money that eventually, they will.”

    They might not be renamed, but they will certainly be forgotten, just like the recipe for making cement was forgotten after the collapse of the Roman Empire. The New Dark Ages will not be televised cuz there won’t be televisions (a minor blessing, one supposes).

    Imagine anyone, post-collapse, understanding the Helmholtz equation, or Maxwell’s field equations, or, for that matter, any partial differential equation.

    Tis to laugh.

  115. @songbird
    Flier-Federick? I don't wholeheartedly agree with Woodrow Wilson's "hyphens are daggers" speech, but it is probably true 95% of the time when it comes to surnames.

    I am sure there are a few traditional Englishmen whose ancestors took to combo names for the purposes of acquiring inheritances, but I have never met one.

    Replies: @Nachum, @Nachum

    “Frederick” could mean Jewish or not. I wonder what it is in this case.

    • Replies: @kaganovitch
    @Nachum

    “Frederick” could mean Jewish or not. I wonder what it is in this case.

    The Frederick in her name is her husband's name. She married in 2015. Rabbi Terry Bard officiated so Frederick likely Jewish.
    https://www.nytimes.com/2015/10/18/fashion/weddings/lydia-flier-david-frederick.html

  116. @Cowboy shaw
    @Jenner Ickham Errican

    By the fires of hades she is one ugly mofo.

    Replies: @Cloudswrest

  117. Anon[189] • Disclaimer says:
    @Redneck farmer
    Well, at least we can soon ignore the phrases "I went to Harvard Medical School" and "According to research by the Harvard School of Public Health".

    Replies: @Anon

    But you can ignore it already. A group of rich consanguineous Christians was replaced by a group of rich consanguineous Jews.

    They pretend to “look differently”, but the current crop of Ashkenaz looks quite European.

    They were all rich because they told everyone how great is Harvard, not because Harvard is great.

    Harvard and Stanford pay their PR personnel to write odes about their professors on apparently neutral websites. In fact, preciously little came out their medical schools, and this, in the era of the most important changes in medicine. There are colleges in Belgium as important for the last century of medicine

    I already explained that Wikipedia lists Diamond Sr as the “discoverer of thalasemia”, although the disease is aka Cooley anemia, because a guy name Cooley actually discovered it. But Cooley was not in Harvard, so there is no PR working for him.

    It’s true that doctors look differently. A third of America’s doctors come from a different country. The number of Indians starting US residencies at the age of 23 is evidence that Aetna can’t get enough “well-rounded” wall-decorating Ashkenaz. But that should not be a problem in Harvard. Most of their graduates don’t see patients anyway.

    Also, in a hospital, pictures of the yesteryear idiots who though you can get ulcer from stress, but could cure it with tobacco, are vomit. They say more about stuffed old assholes who run the place. Most of the department chairs went to medical school before half of the facts needed for MCAT were discovered. I can see why the famous pyramidologist Ben Carson, who knows nothing about Nogos, would probably love to keep those portraits.

    They are as clueless as him.

    Luckily, there are specialists who can appreciate what is good and revolutionary in medicine, and can illuminate us. In particular, sons are good at it.

  118. @Edward
    As far as I’m aware, nothing like this is happening in medical schools in the United Kingdom. But where the US goes, the UK tends to follow. The point of having these portraits is surely to encourage current students, whatever the colour of their skin, to make great new strides in medicine.

    We are following the US in other domains, though. Only this year, affirmative action for working-class and “low-income” students was introduced at some of our most elite universities.

    On the other hand, the National Academy for Gifted and Talented Youth was scrapped in 2010, with the money being redirected to helping “disadvantaged” students. New grammar schools (for pupils with IQs in the top 25%) were banned almost two decades ago. So, in this domain, New York is perhaps following the UK. I’m just surprised Stuyvesant and other selective schools survived this long.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @J.Ross

    UK is ahead of the US. Derb reported a while ago that a statue of a real founder of modern nursing outside a nursing school had been removed and replaced with an image of a post-Napoleonic camp follower.
    The person who had contributed to science and human confort was white and the person who had sold lemonade to warring officers was thought to be mixed.

    • Replies: @Ancient Briton
    @J.Ross

    The ladies in question are Florence Nightingale (medical innovator) and Mary Seacole (dusky seller of trinkets).

  119. @al gore rhythms
    @BB753

    If they replace all those pictures with new pictures of people of colour, wouldn't you think they were sending you a message? It's not always crazy to think that that is the case.

    The difference is of course that the white men on the wall only had their picture up there because they had done something of merit. No-one had the intention of 'othering' ethnic minorities. Whereas if the pictures are replaced by PC non-entities, it will be done for political purposes.

    So perhaps part of the problem with liberals and non-whites is that they judge the white world of yesterday by their own petty, vengeful standards.

    Replies: @415 reasons, @Reg Cæsar, @ThreeCranes

    Indeed they sent a message: “We remember the achievements of those who came before us.” Taking them down sends an equal, opposite, odious message that is perfectly in tune with the current year: “Your feelings of grievance with the way the world works are more important than everything else.”

  120. @Peter Johnson
    @El Dato

    The blackening of theoretical physics has already begun, with Stanford leading the charge:

    https://www.campusreform.org/?ID=13615

    Replies: @bomag, @Mr. Anon, @MarkinLA

    Stanford’s alternate version of this course, Physics 41E, boasts additional class time, as well as “learning assistants,” individuals with a “passion” for “education equity,” who are paid by the university to guide students through the difficult course.

    The first and most basic class in the science/engineering physics sequence and you are already talking about extensive hand holding of some students. Just what does Stanford think this is going to do? Will a light suddenly go off in one of these students head and string theory will suddenly seem like child’s play? There is a reason why pre-meds are given tough introductory classes so that they drop out of the program quickly so as not to waste too much of their time. This will only postpone the day of reckoning for these students who will likely never get a degree in physics.

  121. @Counterinsurgency
    @Arclight


    On a national level I don’t see much resentment from immigrants, but their kids are another matter.
     
    Right. The immigrants themselves grew up i a country to which they were adapted by talents and feelings and upbringing. They can live in another society because they've already been formed, like plants growing in a jug.
    Their kids, though -- nothing here strikes them as right. East Asians say "not enough order." Other groups don't speak, they just try to tear the society down, for reasons they, themselves, about understand. Much of what they try, fails, they get acculturated and a bit insane.
    There is actually a description of that in literature -- take a look at James Blish, _A Case of Conscience_. Back then you could still say obviously true things in SF that were taboo in the rest of literature [1].

    Counterinsurgency

    1] R. A. Lafferty put it best, back then: Paraphrase: "When non-SF writers say that SF is 99% hack work, I reply 'Yes, but you're dead." That captures it perfectly. So: Blish, _Case of Consience_.

    Replies: @El Dato

    That’s a classic though I have to admit I never read it.

    Somewhat reimagined in Mary Doria Russell’s “The Sparrow”: http://www.infinityplus.co.uk/nonfiction/sparjdo.htm

  122. @Anonymous
    @Jenner Ickham Errican

    Nabel is a Minnesota native and graduate of Lutheran stronghold St. Olaf College. She's about as Jewish as Garrison Keillor.

    Replies: @Charon, @Jenner Ickham Errican

    Hmmm. Maybe Nabel isn’t by birth, but her husband and his heritage is on her mind.

    (And look at her face—Jewdar pinging! She could be part Jewish in the manner of John Kerry, Wesley Clark, etc. I’m gonna need to see her 23andMe. 😉 )

    https://www.hmsreview.org/issue/2015/1/dr-maiden-name-will-see-you-now

    She explained that her maiden name, Guenthner, had been difficult for her patients to pronounce, spell, and remember; Nabel, on the other hand, was easy and appealing because it provided her family with “one central name.”

    In addition, Dr. Nabel’s story showed how decisions about surnames are often made in collaboration and in the context of other important family traditions like religion, education, and culture:

    I come from the Midwest and was raised with very traditional values.  My husband comes from a family of Holocaust survivors.  We wanted to honor our backgrounds and traditions, so we agreed that I would take his name.”

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    @Jenner Ickham Errican

    So in other words it takes continental genocide to get a modern woman to do something all of her female ancestors would have done without thinking.

  123. OT: The MTV Music Awards are doing their part to move us beyond the stale, male patriarchy:

    http://www.mtv.com/vma/video-clips/5kxljh/2019-mtv-video-music-awards-lizzo-truth-hurts-good-as-hell

    • Replies: @El Dato
    @Cagey Beast

    When I was a kid, I had a big book on the history of Science-Fiction. In the "movies" section, there was picture about some dystopian film with a scene which looked pretty much like that. Kubrick's "Clockwork Orange" was featured on the other page, with Alex in the milk bar.

    Replies: @Cagey Beast

  124. @Counterinsurgency

    On the whole, white men are hated today not for their sins but for their contributions.
     
    The white men of old built a European civilization that was so much better than that of other societies (even in the terms of these other societies) that the other societies destroyed their own social structure to be more like the European civilizations. Toynbee referred to this as imitation of a creative minority. Examples: Indian adoption of British bureaucratic forms and democracy, Russian and Chinese adoption of Communism, Turkey's adoption of non-Islamic secular government.

    Then, to their shock and horror, it turned out that the civilizations that had restructured themselves couldn't live in a European framework. They started changing back to a system more consistent with what their population thought of as common sense, more suitable to their capabilities and feelings.

    This varied by country, of course. Some countries never quite adopted Western government, but rather had it imposed upon them with very little participation by the native population. Others voluntarily adopted it with very little participation by Western personnel. Each, however, ended up by adopting a Western form of government that it is now in the process of rejecting.

    Immigrants to the US found themselves in the same situation, confronted with several American sociological groups that were not their own. At first there was significant conformity -- American Catholics became much more like American Protestants than they had been. Former black slaves developed a middle class of merchants, and a middle income class of service professionals (Coleman Porters, for example) that had been (and still are) utterly lacking in West Africa. The immigrants, to, are trying to transform American society into something more consistent with their feelings and abilities, because they can't live comfortably here. In many cases, thanks to selection by urban areas trying to import foreigners they can retain, they can't live in American society at all without being supported by the rest of American society. Even urban taxi drivers earn their living by providing services to people whose income is ultimately from tax money or political influence.

    Thus: the white men may have been responsible for making the entire population increase possible, hence making many billions of lives possible, _proximately_ most (almost all) of the increased populations can't live in a European derived society, and in fact have no economic function in their own society or any industrial society. Of course they hate the men who brought this situation about, just as they hat those who sustain it today. Hatred is the emotion engendered by threats to a person's life, and the whole of European society is a threat to the non-European's life, no matter where the non-European lives. [1]

    In fact, industrial society is becoming a threat to the European descendants themselves [2], and seems to be responsible for the decline of European populations.

    So

    1] Even Japan, perhaps the most successful of the adopters of Western forms, science, and engineering, has a population that is in significant decline. While it may be that Japan is simply dropping its own population back to a density and competition level that its population can sustain, the process of decline manifests itself as threats to individuals -- long work hours, social isolation, childlessness.

    2] https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-08-26/obamas-american-factory-film-backfires-exposes-damning-snapshot-american-labor

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon, @Anonymous, @Rob, @AnotherDad

    Counter, that’s really interesting theory. Is it yours? If not,whose?

    Also, you don’t need to write counterinsurgency at the bottom of every post. It appears at the top in blue, and when what you say is interesting (and it was), people will move their eyes slightly to see who wrote it.

    • Replies: @Counterinsurgency
    @Rob

    The city theory comes from Copley [1], and there is a source that can be cited for most of the rest of my hypothesis (some of it comes from inside information in the form of personal experience).
    So what I’ve said is a synthesis form quite a few different theories. That’s what most research is, and I should add that research is my professional field, for which I’m formally qualified, with honest to God degrees in various disciplines from real universities, for what that’s worth. Plus I’ve lived through a lot of history, often with an unusually front line seat: Takeover of the school systems after Sputnik, End of the economic base for cities, labor racketeering, Summer of Love, US Army Vietnam War, End of the research corporation, failure of academic engineering, failure of manufacturing, failure of NASA, failure of universities, failure of Federal government bureaucracy, failure of the integrated resource management systems and their proposed successors, and now failure of the cities. Oh, yes, and the destruction of the family. That one was hard to dodge.
    The research originally was and still is motivated by a desire to understand enough of what’s happening to survive it. Quite a few of my relations and friends and acquaintances didn’t either understand or survive, so I’m motivated. Also, I’ve seen too many people die, and I’d like to be able to keep people alive. I’ve only been able to do that a few times, the first time in High School when I saved a drowning man. Almost all my attempts in this area have failed.
    One of the things I’ve found out the hard way is that research requires a research community. You have to be able to talk about your ideas, to get different perspectives. That’s why the opposition (broadly conceived) troll bombs sites like this, and protects its own sites. They don’t want any other group to be able to think (perhaps because they can’t think, but more likely just to disorganize). The trolls are like static on the radio, both in information content and in unpleasantness.
    Also, the opposition is capable of various physical and financial attacks, so I’m not going to charge the machine gun. This isn’t WW I; let the opposition metaphorically shoot into the jungle.
    There are quite few books I can cite, and if you look over my past posting you’ll find most of them. Search in unz.com for the 1] and 2] and so on that I use for footnotes. If you’d like, I could post a consolidated list. The important thing I a working hypothesis is fidelity to reality. Does the hypothesis at least account for what you can see? A stronger test is prediction. Does the hypothesis successfully predict what happens next? Copley’s theory predicts the fall of megacities from political power _throughout the world_ as their large populations and hatred of their hinterlands couple with their dependency on external logistics transform from strengths to weaknesses. I’ve added some detail to it (as has Ron Unz) to get a hypothesis that suggests that Copley’s process is now irreversible. We’ll see, we are seeing, and that’s the test.

    In the meantime, the important thing is to see if the hypothesis helps you live through current events. The hypothesis simply points out the obvious: cities have lost their economic base and, instead of finding a new one or shutting down gracefully, have become politically supported zombies that import incompatible and economically unproductive populations to keep their populations up. [1] This has led to serious conflict with the cities’ hinterlands, and has led to the immigrants (internal and external) contending for control of the cities into which they have been imported. Should such control be achieved, a byproduct would be control over the United States Federal Government. [2] The failure of so many Western systems make this a very unstable arrangement. Both the cities and the Federal Government are consequently becoming less stable, weaker in practice while stronger in claims of authority.
    And, yes, the migrants, both internal and foreign, have their own way of doing things, one that appears to be genetic in origin. Their children don’t’ fit the society into which they have immigrated, and want to change the current society into something they can better live in (“Change America!”). Since there are very many immigrant groups, it is unlikely that any of them will achieve something they can better live in, the more so because of IQ deficits and the failure of the societies to which they are adapted to industrialize.
    This system is unstable in the same way the USSR was unstable before it vanished in the air. Take a look at “Gamergate comes to the classroom” from theVerge.com [3]:
    I’ll leave it at that (and the signature below separates text from footnote, so I’ll leave it In this time.)
    Counterinsurgency
    1] Formation of megacities and their political dominance is a worldwide phenomenon. From First World to Fourth World megacities rule their countries with considerable hostility towards their hinterland. See: Gregory R. Copley, _UnCivilization: Urban Geopolitics in a Time of Chaos_, 1st ed 2012. The phenomenon appears to be a byproduct of population increase.
    2] Again, this is a world wide phenomenon. Paris is perhaps the place where it is most obvious; the French Chief of State is just as dependent on the Islamic vote as the US Democratic Party is dependent on the immigrant vote. The various Islamic conflicts appear to be between cities and countryside, with the countryside winning over the urban Westernizers.
    3] Megan Farokhmanesh.
    “Gamergate comes to the classroom”.
    _theVerge.com_, 2019/08/21
    https://www.theverge.com/2019/8/21/20812153/youtube-gamergate-education-classroom-teachers-misinformation-reddit-twitter-online-harassment
    UC Irvine (!!!) is apparently no longer able to indoctrinate students without organized covert opposition, and the article suggest the use of force and compulsory renunciation of opinions by students as countermeasures. That would make degrees even more worthless than they are now; it’s a sign of astonishing weakness.

  125. @Anonymous

    https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-49469225

    'Rosalind Franklin' Mars rover assembly completed

    Engineers at Airbus in Stevenage, UK, displayed the finished vehicle on Tuesday ahead of its shipment to France for testing.

    Called "Rosalind Franklin" after the British DNA pioneer, the six-wheeled robot will search for life on Mars...

    China and the US are preparing their own rovers for launch in the same departure window as Rosalind Franklin...

    Rosalind Franklin was "superb scientific tool", said David Parker, Esa's director of human and robotic exploration...

    Currently, there is concern over the readiness of the parachute system that will slow Rosalind Franklin's descent through Mars' atmosphere to the surface...

    With Rosalind Franklin now about to depart the country, there's intense interest in a follow-up...

     

    Rosalind Franklin was a Jewess who helped in part deciphering the structure of DNA.

    I wonder if they’ll ever name a spacecraft after the late Francis Crick or the living James Watson who won the Nobel Prize in Medicine for actually discovering the DNA structure? I doubt it. Both were advocates of positive eugenics.

    Replies: @Nachum, @El Dato

    With Rosalind Franklin now about to depart the country, there’s intense interest in a follow-up…

    I laughed.

    Is this the first robot named after an actual person?

    The last time the Brits attempted something on Mars they called the device “Beagle”. It went shtum immediately after touchdown.

    What if Rosalind Franklin crashes?

    It has a drill to burrow 2m below ground to try to detect the presence of microbes, either living or fossilised.

    They could have called it “Dr.Drillinger” or “BurrowBot” but no …

    The roughly 300kg Rosalind Franklin rover is being bagged and boxed…

    Let the jokes begin!

  126. @Cagey Beast
    OT: The MTV Music Awards are doing their part to move us beyond the stale, male patriarchy:

    https://i.imgur.com/Yu3YkLr.jpg

    http://www.mtv.com/vma/video-clips/5kxljh/2019-mtv-video-music-awards-lizzo-truth-hurts-good-as-hell

    Replies: @El Dato

    When I was a kid, I had a big book on the history of Science-Fiction. In the “movies” section, there was picture about some dystopian film with a scene which looked pretty much like that. Kubrick’s “Clockwork Orange” was featured on the other page, with Alex in the milk bar.

    • Replies: @Cagey Beast
    @El Dato

    I believe you. It looks like something from Barbarella or a Jack Chick cartoon. It looks like a scene set on a fictional planet which practices primitive fertility rites. That's where the "mainstream" is right now.

  127. @Kylie
    @Anonymous

    "They are hated purely and simply for being white *and* male."

    Wrong. They are hated for being white, male high achievers. The hatred is based on envy.

    Replies: @El Dato

    Also the belief that progress can be pulled out of one’s anus at a moment’s notice and the search tree revealed by history doesn’t matter.

    Civilization crashes? No problem, just look it up again on Wikipedia. How hard can it be?

    Everyone is a superhero just waiting to be activated.

  128. Lots of the commenters on that thread seem to have gotten the same talking point: The people in those portraits took the place of some deserving black person or woman, so it’s there fault.

    A good answer is one Tom Wolfe puts in the mouth of a character in A Man in Full, basically, no, it’s not their fault.

    A better answer would be, “Why do you assume so many blacks and women would have made it in on merits?”

  129. Yeah. That thalidomide. That DES. That lobotomy.

    Great stuff.

  130. Counter, that’s really interesting theory. Is it yours? If not,whose?

    It’s more of a hypothesis than a theory. I don’t have the funding or time to give it a hard validity check, but it’s consistent with my unusually wide range of experiences and with all my reading.

    The basic idea of cities as pursuing their own goals without reference to their comes from living in NYC and in Illinois and California, where that’s taken for granted. It’s also from Copley, _UnCivilization: Urban Geopolitics in a Time of Chaos _. Copley points out that something very similar (megacities monopolizing government funds) has happened worldwide, thanks to population growth. Copley points out that megacity political dominance is a city weakness – they_can’t_ depend on a hinterland that they’ve squeezed dry..

    The idea that cities cannot fund themselves come from Levion’s _The Box: How the Shipping Container Made the World Smaller and the World Economy Bigger_, who describes the loss of shipping and light manufacturing due to containerization in passing,never realizing its imporrtance.

    Dispersal of manufacturing comes from some time researching equipment at a manufacturing plant in South Carolina, and the idea of interstates changing transportation economics comes from several sources, read so far back that I can’t remember their names. One of them was Herman Kahn, _On Thermonuclear War_. Kahn pointed out that the US could be considered two nations, A and B. A were the nuclear targets, B as the countryside. Kahn maintained that B could do quite well without A, should worse come to worst.

    As for importation of foreigners, the Left won’t shut up about it. A little thought shows that, if the cities have lost their economic base, it would be futile to import foreigners who cold work outside the cities, where productive work has now gone. The foreigners would follow the work.

    History comes from various sources, he most accessible of which is McNeil’s _A World History_ McNeil was interested in cultural diffusion and cultural interaction.

    For the reception of industrialization, see Clark’s _A Farewell to Alms: A Brief Economic History of the World_

    And as for the discontent of the non-European descended with industrial society, well, they won’t shut up about it. It’s the point of every “microaggression” and “discrimination” complaint, if you listen carefully: society doesn’t suit the person complaining. It was a fairly easy discovery once made, but it was almost too big to see..

    And, through no accident, I’m a formally qualified researcher with a some refereed papers and a fair number of research results — to many, actually, but that’s another story.

    In deference to your request, I’ll leave of the signature. It is useful when I have footnotes, but this time I don’t.

    • Replies: @Moses
    @Counterinsurgency

    Awww CI, I kinda liked your extra signature. Gave your posts extra personality and panache. Great branding too.

    Snarky busybodies gonna be snarky busybodies. Don’t let them tell you what to do.

    Never apologize for being you.

  131. Why climb to stand on the shoulders of giants when you can simply slay and bury the giants. Ad Terra !

  132. Last year, British NHS hospitals were decorated with posters bearing the slogan “I Am Research”, and mostly depicting young women and members of minority races.

    This is strange at at least two levels. Firstly, a white male who was a genuine medical researcher and declared “I Am Research” would be considered impossibly arrogant. It is a Good Thing to declare that this career path is open to all, but why start with a proclamation that would embarrass even a researcher as accomplished as Louis Diamond or Alexander Fleming?

    Secondly, why reduce the white men to a small fraction of their representation among medical researchers? Isn’t their contribution worth counting?

    [MORE]

    Not many of the posters are on the internet. Here’s one. The ones I saw in hospitals mostly showed one young person in each poster.

    • Replies: @Known Fact
    @James N. Kennett

    As if on cue tonight I just saw a quick image ad for the biomedical research industry. White woman scientist, dot-Indian male scientist, black woman scientist.

  133. @The Germ Theory of Disease
    "The current generation of doctors does not resemble that old wall."

    Quite so. They don't resemble the portraits in any way. The current generation of doctors does /not/ have two eyes, a nose, and a mouth. They do not have ears, nor four limbs and a spinal column. Where are the beaks and tentacles? Where are the hideous wings? Where is the Cthulhu mouth-mask of undulating, semi-autonomous worm-things?

    Ohhhh... waaaiiit... /Now/ I get it. The current generation of doctors have a variety of skin-complexions, which means of course that they can have absolutely no intellectual, philosophical, ethical, or scientific connection to the guys with the other skin-tone.

    So, in other words, you're a racist. Good to know!

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Steve in Greensboro

    “You’re a racist” he said. And that ended the discussion.

  134. Bret Stephens has hissy fit and quits Twitter over being called a bedbug. This is the guy who says natural-born Americans should be replaced by third-world migrants.

    https://www.rt.com/usa/467405-bret-stephens-bedbug-twitter/

    • Replies: @Hunsdon
    @HammerJack

    I myself would have called him a louse.

    , @Reg Cæsar
    @HammerJack


    Bret Stephens has hissy fit and quits Twitter over being called a bedbug
     
    That's slander. I've known a few bedugs, and all of them would be insulted by the comparison.
  135. Doesn’t everyone understand? Even one clap for the great medical researchers of the past means one less clap for the diverse. It is a zero sum game of applause.

    • Replies: @Olorin
    @Ibound1

    Did you just CLAP?

    How triggering!

    (And I, yet again, marvel at the use of that firearms term by Les Sneauflaques.)

  136. @El Dato
    @istevefan

    Because Jews make everything better!


    magisterial portraits only reinforce it
     
    Liberal Magical Thought in Action: Reality is controlled by wall decorations.

    When will the blackening of fundamental physics start?

    Replies: @Peter Johnson, @fish, @Thirdtwin

    “Liberal Magical Thought in Action: Reality is controlled by wall decorations.”

    …and African kitsch figurines.

  137. I love the premise of some of these comments (even by physicians): But for past racial discrimination the wall would be covered with pictures of black men and woman.

    • LOL: gregor
  138. @El Dato
    @eah

    I wanted to post this but I gave up.

    Back when "New Wave" Sci-Fi was in, I remember writing about unusual sexuality hidden behind a thin veneer of "space exploration". Barry Malzberg's "Beyond Apollo" for example sounded suspiciously like a obfuscation of male homosexual love (Captain, my Captain!), followed possibly by a killing, but cast into a story of the sole mad survivor being interrogated about the failed "exploration of Venus".

    It's like reality is being progressively eaten by those dreams.

    Replies: @Known Fact

    Malzberg is the best — he’s Catch-22 in space. His “Opening Fire” is a classic quickie about a politically correct starship crew forced to include a bigot as a reality check.

  139. @dr kill
    @NJ Transit Commuter

    Envy is the most destructive emotional reaction possible, I'm certain it is the primary motivational driver in all human history, mostly with murderous consequences.

    Replies: @AnotherDad, @Peterike, @Days of Broken Arrows

    Envy is the most destructive emotional reaction possible, I’m certain it is the primary motivational driver in all human history, mostly with murderous consequences.

    I’ve always been more of a Sloth guy myself.

    But admittedly we sloth guys don’t tend to be the real movers and shakers of human history.

  140. @Counterinsurgency

    On the whole, white men are hated today not for their sins but for their contributions.
     
    The white men of old built a European civilization that was so much better than that of other societies (even in the terms of these other societies) that the other societies destroyed their own social structure to be more like the European civilizations. Toynbee referred to this as imitation of a creative minority. Examples: Indian adoption of British bureaucratic forms and democracy, Russian and Chinese adoption of Communism, Turkey's adoption of non-Islamic secular government.

    Then, to their shock and horror, it turned out that the civilizations that had restructured themselves couldn't live in a European framework. They started changing back to a system more consistent with what their population thought of as common sense, more suitable to their capabilities and feelings.

    This varied by country, of course. Some countries never quite adopted Western government, but rather had it imposed upon them with very little participation by the native population. Others voluntarily adopted it with very little participation by Western personnel. Each, however, ended up by adopting a Western form of government that it is now in the process of rejecting.

    Immigrants to the US found themselves in the same situation, confronted with several American sociological groups that were not their own. At first there was significant conformity -- American Catholics became much more like American Protestants than they had been. Former black slaves developed a middle class of merchants, and a middle income class of service professionals (Coleman Porters, for example) that had been (and still are) utterly lacking in West Africa. The immigrants, to, are trying to transform American society into something more consistent with their feelings and abilities, because they can't live comfortably here. In many cases, thanks to selection by urban areas trying to import foreigners they can retain, they can't live in American society at all without being supported by the rest of American society. Even urban taxi drivers earn their living by providing services to people whose income is ultimately from tax money or political influence.

    Thus: the white men may have been responsible for making the entire population increase possible, hence making many billions of lives possible, _proximately_ most (almost all) of the increased populations can't live in a European derived society, and in fact have no economic function in their own society or any industrial society. Of course they hate the men who brought this situation about, just as they hat those who sustain it today. Hatred is the emotion engendered by threats to a person's life, and the whole of European society is a threat to the non-European's life, no matter where the non-European lives. [1]

    In fact, industrial society is becoming a threat to the European descendants themselves [2], and seems to be responsible for the decline of European populations.

    So

    1] Even Japan, perhaps the most successful of the adopters of Western forms, science, and engineering, has a population that is in significant decline. While it may be that Japan is simply dropping its own population back to a density and competition level that its population can sustain, the process of decline manifests itself as threats to individuals -- long work hours, social isolation, childlessness.

    2] https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-08-26/obamas-american-factory-film-backfires-exposes-damning-snapshot-american-labor

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon, @Anonymous, @Rob, @AnotherDad

    Good comment Counter …

    but now i’m stuck with this image of the “Coleman Porter” carrying my stove over to the campsite picnic table with a big friendly smile on his face.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    @AnotherDad

    Pullman porter? Like Pullman cars?
    I think Coleman Porter is one of the fake brands at Harbor Freight.

  141. @Jenner Ickham Errican
    https://www.bostonglobe.com/resizer/HBkL2ArlX2uK7NBXSAp5BCd4DNU=/960x0/arc-anglerfish-arc2-prod-bostonglobe.s3.amazonaws.com/public/GOO3SBDOQII6RNGY5L3Y2TCUJQ.jpg

    the Bornstein auditorium at one of America’s great research hospitals has been purged of portraits of heroes of medical sciences
     
    When that news was first announced I was so pissed off I had to bust out the (((parentheses))) more than once. Good for Dr. Flier, who I presume is Jewish, to belatedly speak up, but here’s the witch who decided to remove the portraits— President of Brigham and Women’s Hospital, Dr. Betsy Nabel:

    https://www.broadinstitute.org/files/styles/biosketch__413x315_/public/bios/photos/Elizabeth%20Nabel.jpg

    https://www.nih.gov/sites/default/files/styles/featured_media_breakpoint-medium/public/about-nih/nih-director/statements/collins/Nabel.jpg

    Replies: @Cowboy shaw, @Anonymous, @ldhd, @Save the Castelmans, @JudgeSmails, @JudgeSmails

    I am fascinated by Betsy and by her equally successful husband. They successfully bounce off between pharma executive levels, Washington regulatory agencies, and the highest bill on Massachusetts budget (Partners Health, owner of Brigham and Womens).

    But the best part in their biographies is their son, who, at the age of 25, while working as resident, was “leading” a “national network” for the study of Castleman disease. He claims he had some relative affected, but a quick google shows the disease to see how likely that is. There are more cases of alien abduction during a morgellons crisis, than cases of Castleman.

    Now, residents are famously the most overworked people in America, with workweeks commonly longer than 100 hours a week. How did the young Chris Nabel find time to lead a national network? Did it help that he was a resident in the hospital where his mother is Kaiser? Did it help that no other scientist gives a damn about a disease that 99% of physicians never heard of, and so nobody read his scientific papers?

    A sane person would conclude the he is lying about his research, or about his medical training. A safer bet is to assume he lies about both. That’s Harvard Medical School.

  142. @dr kill
    @NJ Transit Commuter

    Envy is the most destructive emotional reaction possible, I'm certain it is the primary motivational driver in all human history, mostly with murderous consequences.

    Replies: @AnotherDad, @Peterike, @Days of Broken Arrows

    “Envy is the most destructive emotional reaction possible, I’m certain it is the primary motivational driver in all human history, mostly with murderous consequences.”

    Agree. If you haven’t read it, get Helmut Schoeck’s “Envy.” Fascinating book that mirrors your comment in vast detail.

  143. Off-topic,

    An African Abbot in Anglo-Saxon England:
    https://blogs.bl.uk/digitisedmanuscripts/2016/10/an-african-abbot-in-anglo-saxon-england.html
    The man in question was Hadrian (d. 709), the abbot of St Peter’s and St Paul’s at Canterbury, who played a pivotal role in the development of church structures in what is now England.

    African does not equal Black. Adrian was from Libya and is usually described as being of Berber descent…

    • Replies: @Federalist
    @syonredux

    Agreed. St. Augustine (of Hippo) was African but nobody claims he was black. (Well, the lunatics of current year might claim he was black.)

    , @Art Deco
    @syonredux

    i.e. like St. Augustine.

  144. @AnotherDad
    @Counterinsurgency

    Good comment Counter ...

    but now i'm stuck with this image of the "Coleman Porter" carrying my stove over to the campsite picnic table with a big friendly smile on his face.

    Replies: @J.Ross

    Pullman porter? Like Pullman cars?
    I think Coleman Porter is one of the fake brands at Harbor Freight.

  145. @Jenner Ickham Errican
    @Anonymous

    Hmmm. Maybe Nabel isn’t by birth, but her husband and his heritage is on her mind.

    (And look at her face—Jewdar pinging! She could be part Jewish in the manner of John Kerry, Wesley Clark, etc. I’m gonna need to see her 23andMe. ;) )

    https://www.hmsreview.org/issue/2015/1/dr-maiden-name-will-see-you-now


    She explained that her maiden name, Guenthner, had been difficult for her patients to pronounce, spell, and remember; Nabel, on the other hand, was easy and appealing because it provided her family with “one central name.”

    In addition, Dr. Nabel’s story showed how decisions about surnames are often made in collaboration and in the context of other important family traditions like religion, education, and culture:

    I come from the Midwest and was raised with very traditional values.  My husband comes from a family of Holocaust survivors.  We wanted to honor our backgrounds and traditions, so we agreed that I would take his name.”
     

    Replies: @J.Ross

    So in other words it takes continental genocide to get a modern woman to do something all of her female ancestors would have done without thinking.

  146. @Dave Pinsen
    His daughter has pronouns in her Twitter profile.

    Replies: @Marlboro

    The choice of pronouns on your email sign signature. The hr people at the bank I work for are asking cough cough all of us to use them.

  147. @prime noticer
    it wouldn't be 2019 without the snitty, useless, backtalking daughter attacking you and your legacy while taking full personal advantage of everything you and your ancestors worked on for hundreds of years.

    letting them vote. what a disaster that's turned out to be. sometimes we have no worse enemy than overeducated suburban women.

    "Will trade racists for immigrants!" the harridan said.

    Replies: @Mr McKenna, @AnotherDad

    it wouldn’t be 2019 without the snitty, useless, backtalking daughter attacking you and your legacy while taking full personal advantage of everything you and your ancestors worked on for hundreds of years.

    letting them vote. what a disaster that’s turned out to be. sometimes we have no worse enemy than overeducated suburban women.

    “Will trade racists for immigrants!” the harridan said.

    Patriarchy is not sufficient, but necessary for civilization.

    Pointed out before: the geographic nation state is a great innovation, if you can draw reasonable “one people” borders around it. But it does suffer this “now these people are our problem” problem. I.e. what you want is to be able to toss people out. Or in other words, you have a bunch of people who are “not with the program” and they screw it up for everyone else.

    I’m convinced that given “evolutionary time” there would be a state–populated by a civilized race–that would again figure out republican patriarchy–this time with a harder ideological “we’re going to keep this” edge. (Voting would be by responsible self-supporting, married men with children–that sort of deal.) That nation state would be so much better run than others, it would clean up.

    It would be great if America had maintained some real federalism as it might be possible to get such recovery in the US context providing a lesson for others. (That was the original design.) But federalism is gone.

    My bet is we’re going to run into the technological buzz saw–automation revolution, bio-weapons, DNA manipulation–that is going to be a game changer, before we see recovery. But if we don’t the winner will be whatever civilized people recovery a modern patriarchy.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
    @AnotherDad

    "Patriarchy is not sufficient, but necessary for civilization."

    Partnership and agreement between men and women is required, not patriarchy.

    "I’m convinced that given “evolutionary time” there would be a state–populated by a civilized race–that would again figure out republican patriarchy–this time with a harder ideological “we’re going to keep this” edge. (Voting would be by responsible self-supporting, married men with children–that sort of deal.)"

    Wishful thinking on your part.

    "But if we don’t the winner will be whatever civilized people recovery a modern patriarchy."

    You have a strange way insisting who is and who is not "civilized".

    "it wouldn’t be 2019 without the snitty, useless, backtalking daughter attacking you and your legacy while taking full personal advantage of everything you and your ancestors worked on for hundreds of years."

    Ouch, that stings. In all seriousness, the daughter should have shut her yap out of respect for her father and made her points to him in private.

  148. @HammerJack
    Bret Stephens has hissy fit and quits Twitter over being called a bedbug. This is the guy who says natural-born Americans should be replaced by third-world migrants.


    https://www.rt.com/usa/467405-bret-stephens-bedbug-twitter/

    Replies: @Hunsdon, @Reg Cæsar

    I myself would have called him a louse.

  149. @Jenner Ickham Errican
    https://www.bostonglobe.com/resizer/HBkL2ArlX2uK7NBXSAp5BCd4DNU=/960x0/arc-anglerfish-arc2-prod-bostonglobe.s3.amazonaws.com/public/GOO3SBDOQII6RNGY5L3Y2TCUJQ.jpg

    the Bornstein auditorium at one of America’s great research hospitals has been purged of portraits of heroes of medical sciences
     
    When that news was first announced I was so pissed off I had to bust out the (((parentheses))) more than once. Good for Dr. Flier, who I presume is Jewish, to belatedly speak up, but here’s the witch who decided to remove the portraits— President of Brigham and Women’s Hospital, Dr. Betsy Nabel:

    https://www.broadinstitute.org/files/styles/biosketch__413x315_/public/bios/photos/Elizabeth%20Nabel.jpg

    https://www.nih.gov/sites/default/files/styles/featured_media_breakpoint-medium/public/about-nih/nih-director/statements/collins/Nabel.jpg

    Replies: @Cowboy shaw, @Anonymous, @ldhd, @Save the Castelmans, @JudgeSmails, @JudgeSmails

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    NOOOOO!

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  150. I want to keep the old guys up. They should not be forgotten or resented.

    But I will also say, let’s get some recent trailblazers in medicine and the sciences up on the walls too. That would include some women and minorities. Let them be featured on TV, let’s hear a lot from them. What’s on their minds? What are they working on? How could we support their research, what practical benefits can come from their work?

    We give all praise to athletes and politicians and what do the really smart people who help save us and improve our daily lives get? A big nothing. That is wrong of us.

    We seem to long for heroes and heroines but ignore the ones we have.

    • Replies: @Art Deco
    @notsaying

    The people who took the portraits down aren't interested in actual accomplishments.

    The retired dean is of the older generation, when intellectual and institutional life maintained some measure of autonomy from social and political disputes. His repulsive daughter is of the decadent younger generation, wherein it's Alinsky all the way down.

  151. @Nachum
    @songbird

    I think "anyone with a hyphenated last name" was on PJ O'Rourke's Enemies List.

    Replies: @songbird

    Haven’t read that one, but I have read Parliament of Whores and one or two others. Sounds like an interesting title. Reminds me of something HL Mencken might have chosen.

  152. @Jenner Ickham Errican
    https://www.bostonglobe.com/resizer/HBkL2ArlX2uK7NBXSAp5BCd4DNU=/960x0/arc-anglerfish-arc2-prod-bostonglobe.s3.amazonaws.com/public/GOO3SBDOQII6RNGY5L3Y2TCUJQ.jpg

    the Bornstein auditorium at one of America’s great research hospitals has been purged of portraits of heroes of medical sciences
     
    When that news was first announced I was so pissed off I had to bust out the (((parentheses))) more than once. Good for Dr. Flier, who I presume is Jewish, to belatedly speak up, but here’s the witch who decided to remove the portraits— President of Brigham and Women’s Hospital, Dr. Betsy Nabel:

    https://www.broadinstitute.org/files/styles/biosketch__413x315_/public/bios/photos/Elizabeth%20Nabel.jpg

    https://www.nih.gov/sites/default/files/styles/featured_media_breakpoint-medium/public/about-nih/nih-director/statements/collins/Nabel.jpg

    Replies: @Cowboy shaw, @Anonymous, @ldhd, @Save the Castelmans, @JudgeSmails, @JudgeSmails

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  153. @Anon7
    Students today are taught that the large number of white, male, European-ancestry people who made important contributions to all of the arts and sciences are on the wall of fame ONLY because they just happened to be the ones with extra resources (stolen from PoCs!) and had their eyes open. Those discoveries were like ripe, low-hanging fruit - anyone could have picked them!

    I’m just waiting for Lin-Manuel Miranda‘s new play Newton to appear on Broadway. Isaac Newton, Gottfried Wilhelm Leibniz, Joseph-Louis Lagrange, Robert Hooke, John Locke all played by rapping black guys.

    Replies: @Ancient Briton

    Just browsing through Google ‘phyicists’ shows a picture of Neil deG Tyson next to Newton, Bohr, et al.

    • Replies: @Cloudbuster
    @Ancient Briton

    Wait, what? There are White physicists?

    , @Art Deco
    @Ancient Briton

    Tyson actually is an astronomer, though a rank and file one known not for professional publications but for science education.

  154. @dr kill
    @NJ Transit Commuter

    Envy is the most destructive emotional reaction possible, I'm certain it is the primary motivational driver in all human history, mostly with murderous consequences.

    Replies: @AnotherDad, @Peterike, @Days of Broken Arrows

    Excellent point. I’ve long thought someone needed to write an essay on envy as the driving force of human nature. This goes beyond ethnic or racial groups, though. You find it in moms vs. daughters, bosses vs. employees, and among pretty much everyone in “Brady Bunch”-type “blended families.”

    The problem is that it’s hard to call out. If you say “You’re just jealous/envious of me” you come off looking like you’re full of yourself. So you have to sit and nod while you get dressed down for succeeding at something. The sooner kids learn this is what drives adults, the better of they will be. Envy doesn’t go away just because the Valley Girls of high school went away. It takes on different and more sinister forms.

  155. @syonredux
    These portraits of White men are bad juju......


    Academic Science Rethinks All-Too-White 'Dude Walls' Of Honor


    A few years ago, TV celebrity Rachel Maddow was at Rockefeller University to hand out a prize that's given each year to a prominent female scientist. As Maddow entered the auditorium, someone overheard her say, "What is up with the dude wall?"
     

    Vosshall says Maddow's remark, and the word "dude wall," crystallized something that had been bothering her for years. As she travels around the country to give lectures and attend conferences at scientific institutions, she constantly encounters lobbies, conference rooms, passageways, and lecture halls that are decorated with portraits of white men.
     

    It just sends the message, every day when you walk by it, that science consists of old white men," says Vosshall. "I think every institution needs to go out into the hallway and ask, 'What kind of message are we sending with these oil portraits and dusty old photographs?'"

     


    "I don't necessarily always have a reaction. But then there are times when you're having a really bad day — someone says something racist to you, or you're struggling with feeling like you belong in the space — and then you see all those photos and it kind of reinforces whatever you might have been feeling at the time," says Max Jordan Nguemeni Tiako, a medical student at Yale.
     

     He grew up reading Harry Potter books, and in that fictional world, portraits can talk to the characters. "If this was Harry Potter," he muses, "if they could speak, what would they even say to me? Everywhere you study, there's a big portrait somewhere of someone kind of staring you down."
     

    "Students felt like these portraits were not just ancient, historic things that had nothing to do with their contemporary experience," says Anderson. "They actually felt that the portraits reinforced contemporary issues of exclusion, of racial discrimination — of othering."
     

    Replies: @BB753, @bomag, @El Dato, @Federalist

    What’s Rachel MadCow bitching about? She looks like the dudes on wall.

    • Replies: @Duke84
    @Federalist

    She has envy of the Freudian type.

  156. @syonredux
    Off-topic,

    An African Abbot in Anglo-Saxon England:
    https://blogs.bl.uk/digitisedmanuscripts/2016/10/an-african-abbot-in-anglo-saxon-england.html …
    The man in question was Hadrian (d. 709), the abbot of St Peter’s and St Paul’s at Canterbury, who played a pivotal role in the development of church structures in what is now England.
     
    https://twitter.com/medievalpoc/status/1100828567884259329


    African does not equal Black. Adrian was from Libya and is usually described as being of Berber descent...


    https://www.thefamouspeople.com/profiles/images/zinedine-zidane-2.jpg

    Replies: @Federalist, @Art Deco

    Agreed. St. Augustine (of Hippo) was African but nobody claims he was black. (Well, the lunatics of current year might claim he was black.)

  157. @Ancient Briton
    @Anon7

    Just browsing through Google 'phyicists' shows a picture of Neil deG Tyson next to Newton, Bohr, et al.

    Replies: @Cloudbuster, @Art Deco

    Wait, what? There are White physicists?

  158. @J.Ross
    @Edward

    UK is ahead of the US. Derb reported a while ago that a statue of a real founder of modern nursing outside a nursing school had been removed and replaced with an image of a post-Napoleonic camp follower.
    The person who had contributed to science and human confort was white and the person who had sold lemonade to warring officers was thought to be mixed.

    Replies: @Ancient Briton

    The ladies in question are Florence Nightingale (medical innovator) and Mary Seacole (dusky seller of trinkets).

  159. @Ancient Briton
    @Anon7

    Just browsing through Google 'phyicists' shows a picture of Neil deG Tyson next to Newton, Bohr, et al.

    Replies: @Cloudbuster, @Art Deco

    Tyson actually is an astronomer, though a rank and file one known not for professional publications but for science education.

  160. @notsaying
    I want to keep the old guys up. They should not be forgotten or resented.

    But I will also say, let's get some recent trailblazers in medicine and the sciences up on the walls too. That would include some women and minorities. Let them be featured on TV, let's hear a lot from them. What's on their minds? What are they working on? How could we support their research, what practical benefits can come from their work?

    We give all praise to athletes and politicians and what do the really smart people who help save us and improve our daily lives get? A big nothing. That is wrong of us.

    We seem to long for heroes and heroines but ignore the ones we have.

    Replies: @Art Deco

    The people who took the portraits down aren’t interested in actual accomplishments.

    The retired dean is of the older generation, when intellectual and institutional life maintained some measure of autonomy from social and political disputes. His repulsive daughter is of the decadent younger generation, wherein it’s Alinsky all the way down.

  161. @syonredux
    Off-topic,

    An African Abbot in Anglo-Saxon England:
    https://blogs.bl.uk/digitisedmanuscripts/2016/10/an-african-abbot-in-anglo-saxon-england.html …
    The man in question was Hadrian (d. 709), the abbot of St Peter’s and St Paul’s at Canterbury, who played a pivotal role in the development of church structures in what is now England.
     
    https://twitter.com/medievalpoc/status/1100828567884259329


    African does not equal Black. Adrian was from Libya and is usually described as being of Berber descent...


    https://www.thefamouspeople.com/profiles/images/zinedine-zidane-2.jpg

    Replies: @Federalist, @Art Deco

    i.e. like St. Augustine.

  162. Has me thinking of a clever reply I read regarding the feminist “argument”, such as it was, that “White males have made such a hash of things the past umpteen hundred years, woman ought to take over”. Words to that effect.

    The reply was: Well, if White men have done so badly, despite their wealth of knowledge and experience, what’s the basis for believing women {or Blacks, or Martians), despite their relative poverty of knowledge and experience, would actually do better, and not far worse?

    • Replies: @Eustace Tilley (not)
    @JackOH

    "Fair to gaze on", but knowledge tastes bitter.
    Idiocracy cannot make Twitter
    Or an Al Sharpton clone
    Or a surveillance drone.
    All the Turd Worlders need is a shitter.

  163. If they feel left out, the ladies and lesser races should get busy accomplishing things.

  164. Better not cure cancer if your skin lacks a sufficient amount of melanin, or else you’ll be branded racist AF!

  165. @Ibound1
    Doesn't everyone understand? Even one clap for the great medical researchers of the past means one less clap for the diverse. It is a zero sum game of applause.

    Replies: @Olorin

    Did you just CLAP?

    How triggering!

    (And I, yet again, marvel at the use of that firearms term by Les Sneauflaques.)

  166. @ldhd
    @Charon

    You're speaking from the sort of proud ignorance that only the dumb can attain. The majority of those who have received the award in recent years have not been Jewish. And Nabel isn't either.

    Replies: @Charon

    Nowhere did I say or even imply that Nabel is jewish. I merely showed “Anonymous” how links can easily mislead. Your first line is ironic, to say the least, but I doubt you can see that.

    With only two posts, you’re clearly yet another frenzied tracker of slight hints of anti-semitism. We have dozens…You’ll fit in well here. Try under your bed maybe?

  167. @El Dato
    @Cagey Beast

    When I was a kid, I had a big book on the history of Science-Fiction. In the "movies" section, there was picture about some dystopian film with a scene which looked pretty much like that. Kubrick's "Clockwork Orange" was featured on the other page, with Alex in the milk bar.

    Replies: @Cagey Beast

    I believe you. It looks like something from Barbarella or a Jack Chick cartoon. It looks like a scene set on a fictional planet which practices primitive fertility rites. That’s where the “mainstream” is right now.

  168. @Nachum
    @songbird

    "Frederick" could mean Jewish or not. I wonder what it is in this case.

    Replies: @kaganovitch

    “Frederick” could mean Jewish or not. I wonder what it is in this case.

    The Frederick in her name is her husband’s name. She married in 2015. Rabbi Terry Bard officiated so Frederick likely Jewish.
    https://www.nytimes.com/2015/10/18/fashion/weddings/lydia-flier-david-frederick.html

  169. FWIW, he’s quoting the Post-Millennial, Jonathan Haidt, and Claire Lehmann of Quillette, as well as an article critical of the Sandinistas, so it looks like he’s one of these late-in-life conservatives (hah).

    Quite a few liberals old enough to believe in freedom of inquiry, etc. (Flier is a Boomer) have been purple-pilled by these junior Red Guards, and I wouldn’t be surprised if we see a new neoconservative movement (complete with parentheses). Hopefully it won’t lead to another moronic Middle East war.

  170. @Counterinsurgency

    Counter, that’s really interesting theory. Is it yours? If not,whose?
     
    It's more of a hypothesis than a theory. I don't have the funding or time to give it a hard validity check, but it's consistent with my unusually wide range of experiences and with all my reading.

    The basic idea of cities as pursuing their own goals without reference to their comes from living in NYC and in Illinois and California, where that's taken for granted. It's also from Copley, _UnCivilization: Urban Geopolitics in a Time of Chaos _. Copley points out that something very similar (megacities monopolizing government funds) has happened worldwide, thanks to population growth. Copley points out that megacity political dominance is a city weakness - they_can't_ depend on a hinterland that they've squeezed dry..

    The idea that cities cannot fund themselves come from Levion's _The Box: How the Shipping Container Made the World Smaller and the World Economy Bigger_, who describes the loss of shipping and light manufacturing due to containerization in passing,never realizing its imporrtance.

    Dispersal of manufacturing comes from some time researching equipment at a manufacturing plant in South Carolina, and the idea of interstates changing transportation economics comes from several sources, read so far back that I can't remember their names. One of them was Herman Kahn, _On Thermonuclear War_. Kahn pointed out that the US could be considered two nations, A and B. A were the nuclear targets, B as the countryside. Kahn maintained that B could do quite well without A, should worse come to worst.

    As for importation of foreigners, the Left won't shut up about it. A little thought shows that, if the cities have lost their economic base, it would be futile to import foreigners who cold work outside the cities, where productive work has now gone. The foreigners would follow the work.

    History comes from various sources, he most accessible of which is McNeil's _A World History_ McNeil was interested in cultural diffusion and cultural interaction.

    For the reception of industrialization, see Clark's _A Farewell to Alms: A Brief Economic History of the World_

    And as for the discontent of the non-European descended with industrial society, well, they won't shut up about it. It's the point of every "microaggression" and "discrimination" complaint, if you listen carefully: society doesn't suit the person complaining. It was a fairly easy discovery once made, but it was almost too big to see..

    And, through no accident, I'm a formally qualified researcher with a some refereed papers and a fair number of research results -- to many, actually, but that's another story.

    In deference to your request, I'll leave of the signature. It is useful when I have footnotes, but this time I don't.

    Replies: @Moses

    Awww CI, I kinda liked your extra signature. Gave your posts extra personality and panache. Great branding too.

    Snarky busybodies gonna be snarky busybodies. Don’t let them tell you what to do.

    Never apologize for being you.

  171. @SimpleSong
    First thought: the current dean doesn't seem to get why institutions are prestigious. It's because of the people! Both the people currently there, and those who were there. It's not about real estate or buildings. Erasing history like this is actively harming the prestige of your university, and while you may think there will always be a Harvard...

    Second thought: A lot of 'prestige' universities have developed reputations for producing clinically incompetent residents. Stanford was probably the worst offender but they seem to have cleaned up their act. I don't really know why this is but I would speculate that these places are selecting for a skill set that is not reflective of the actual skill set required to do good clinical work.

    Third thought: this rot has been developing for a long, long time. In academic medicine you are like a government employee cubed--you are employed by a hospital which is often an arm of the state; even if you work at a private hospital it is funded largely by government programs such as medicare and medicaid, and to advance your career you do research, the success of which is generally determined by the amount of grant money you bring in. Not surprisingly, academic physicians start to act like a hybrid of a government employee and a pandering politician.

    Replies: @Moses

    A lot of ‘prestige’ universities have developed reputations for producing clinically incompetent residents.

    A doctor buddy of mine has been practicing for 20 years.

    Recently he told me he finally realized that medicine primarily is a people and communication discipline, and only secondarily a science one.

    In other words, without ppl and communication skills it’s tough to be a good clinician.

    I doubt the academic hospitals select for that.

  172. @al gore rhythms
    @BB753

    If they replace all those pictures with new pictures of people of colour, wouldn't you think they were sending you a message? It's not always crazy to think that that is the case.

    The difference is of course that the white men on the wall only had their picture up there because they had done something of merit. No-one had the intention of 'othering' ethnic minorities. Whereas if the pictures are replaced by PC non-entities, it will be done for political purposes.

    So perhaps part of the problem with liberals and non-whites is that they judge the white world of yesterday by their own petty, vengeful standards.

    Replies: @415 reasons, @Reg Cæsar, @ThreeCranes

    If they replace all those pictures with new pictures of people of colour…

    What those walls could use is some seclusion room padding.

  173. @HammerJack
    Bret Stephens has hissy fit and quits Twitter over being called a bedbug. This is the guy who says natural-born Americans should be replaced by third-world migrants.


    https://www.rt.com/usa/467405-bret-stephens-bedbug-twitter/

    Replies: @Hunsdon, @Reg Cæsar

    Bret Stephens has hissy fit and quits Twitter over being called a bedbug

    That’s slander. I’ve known a few bedugs, and all of them would be insulted by the comparison.

  174. What percentage of new med school graduates nowadays are white male gentiles? In Canada and American blue states, I would say that it is around 15%. In red states, the number may be somewhat higher.

    This recent spat is yet another reason why white men are avoiding the STEM fields.

    • Replies: @Art Deco
    @Canadian Observer

    About 27% of the doctoral degrees given out in medicine and allied professions are awarded to white males. Jews these days account for about 6-8% of those in professional managerial occupations, so white male gentiles might account for about 23%.

  175. @Harry Baldwin
    @Cagey Beast

    According to a formulation by Lawrence Auster, the liberal will never recognize the damage for which their own policies are responsible.


    The liberal will recognize a threat to his society only after that society has been completely destroyed, if he ever recognizes it at all.

    The conservative recognizes a threat to his society only after it is too late to do anything about it.

    The traditionalist, or reactionary, recognizes a threat to his society the moment it arises.
     

    Replies: @El Dato, @Dan Hayes

    Harry Baldwin:

    I’m always in awe of Auster’s quotes. Sam Francis leaves me the same way: in awe of their on-the-mark succinctness and profundity. Both Auster and Francis are sorely missed.

    • Agree: Harry Baldwin
  176. @Arclight
    Envy is definitely at the root of most anti-white animus. In the US, everyone knows when driving through town what group dominates a neighborhood based on how orderly and clean it is, as well as what kind of businesses are there. The anti-gentrification crowd basically wants the amenities that pop up in areas where there are better incomes and less cultural dysfunction without actually practicing the behaviors that produce more stable communities. Same in the public education realm - even taking into account any variance in average cognitive ability, there is no question we have demographics that punch far below their weight. No one wants to face the truth about why they cannot have nice things.

    On a national level I don't see much resentment from immigrants, but their kids are another matter.

    Replies: @Counterinsurgency, @Mr. Rational

    Same in the public education realm – even taking into account any variance in average cognitive ability, there is no question we have demographics that punch far below their weight. No one wants to face the truth about why they cannot have nice things.

    Everything that is not natural, like carefully-bred strains of crops or farm animals or orderly lawful settlements, is owned by the people who built them out of chaos.  If you cannot make nice things, you have no right to nice things.  The savage demographics need to be given a choice:  go back where you came from, or go to oblivion.  But GONE THEY MUST BE!  Civilization cannot survive otherwise.

  177. @James N. Kennett
    Last year, British NHS hospitals were decorated with posters bearing the slogan "I Am Research", and mostly depicting young women and members of minority races.

    This is strange at at least two levels. Firstly, a white male who was a genuine medical researcher and declared "I Am Research" would be considered impossibly arrogant. It is a Good Thing to declare that this career path is open to all, but why start with a proclamation that would embarrass even a researcher as accomplished as Louis Diamond or Alexander Fleming?

    Secondly, why reduce the white men to a small fraction of their representation among medical researchers? Isn't their contribution worth counting?


    Not many of the posters are on the internet. Here's one. The ones I saw in hospitals mostly showed one young person in each poster.

    https://www.thh.nhs.uk/images/news/2019/I-am-research.jpg

    Replies: @Known Fact

    As if on cue tonight I just saw a quick image ad for the biomedical research industry. White woman scientist, dot-Indian male scientist, black woman scientist.

  178. @Federalist
    @syonredux

    What's Rachel MadCow bitching about? She looks like the dudes on wall.

    Replies: @Duke84

    She has envy of the Freudian type.

  179. @al gore rhythms
    @BB753

    If they replace all those pictures with new pictures of people of colour, wouldn't you think they were sending you a message? It's not always crazy to think that that is the case.

    The difference is of course that the white men on the wall only had their picture up there because they had done something of merit. No-one had the intention of 'othering' ethnic minorities. Whereas if the pictures are replaced by PC non-entities, it will be done for political purposes.

    So perhaps part of the problem with liberals and non-whites is that they judge the white world of yesterday by their own petty, vengeful standards.

    Replies: @415 reasons, @Reg Cæsar, @ThreeCranes

    Exactly.

    She speaks more truth than she intended when she says that she has little in common with them; they who were brilliant, worked doggedly and had accomplished much.

  180. @Anonymous
    @Counterinsurgency


    Even Japan, perhaps the most successful of the adopters of Western forms, science, and engineering, has a population that is in significant decline. While it may be that Japan is simply dropping its own population back to a density and competition level that its population can sustain, the process of decline manifests itself as threats to individuals — long work hours, social isolation, childlessness.
     
    Japan will be just fine without importing civilization-destroying Third World people.

    https://mainichi.jp/english/articles/20190825/p2a/00m/0fe/005000c#cxrecs_s

    Some hospitals in Japan imposing conditions for foreigners amid language, other concerns

    August 25, 2019

    TOKYO -- While Japan has seen increases in the numbers of foreign workers and people visiting the country, some medical facilities have started to impose strict conditions for seeing non-Japanese patients.

    In at least one case, a facility serving as a hub for receiving foreign patients announced that it could turn foreigners away if it couldn't confirm their residence status. Although non-Japanese could provide a new source of income for medical facilities, it appears that some hospitals are concerned about the risk of medical accidents stemming from language problems, as well as issues including the nonpayment of fees...

    In Tokyo's Shinjuku Ward, which has the highest concentration of foreign residents among the capital's 23 wards, at over 10 percent, one maternity clinic stated on its website that it limited patients to those who could speak a conversational level of Japanese. The reason was that misunderstandings over explanations on treatment could lead to serious medical accidents. The clinic says it turns away those without sufficient language proficiency even if they have an interpreter with them...
     
    Who are these well-regulated foreigners in Tokyo, who are a small minority?

    https://resources.realestate.co.jp/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/Foreigner-Population-of-Tokyo-by-Continent-of-Origin-Real-Estate-Japan.png

    What nations are most represented in Tokyo’s foreigner population?
    The top five Asian countries by resident foreigner population are: China (with 199,949), Korea (90,438), Viet Nam (32,334), the Philippines (32,089), and Nepal (26,157).

    The top five European countries by resident foreigner population are: France (6,337), the United Kingdom (6,107), Germany (2,835), Russia (2,561), and Italy (1,848).

    The top three North American countries by resident foreigner population are: the United States (17,578), Canada (3,075), and Mexico (549).

    The top three South American countries by resident foreigner population are: Brazil (3,206), Peru (1,857), and Colombia (519).

    The top two Oceanian countries by resident foreigner population are: Australia (3,215) and New Zealand (852).

    The top three African countries by resident foreigner population are: Ghana (523), Nigeria (523), and Egypt (294).
     
    Largely NE Asian with a smattering of SE Asian and a sliver of educated white professionals and just a handful of non-white professionals.

    Japan will be just fine.

    Replies: @jim jones

    I am impressed with the precision with which the Japanese know their immigrant numbers, here in the UK we only know their number to the nearest million.

  181. @JackOH
    Has me thinking of a clever reply I read regarding the feminist "argument", such as it was, that "White males have made such a hash of things the past umpteen hundred years, woman ought to take over". Words to that effect.

    The reply was: Well, if White men have done so badly, despite their wealth of knowledge and experience, what's the basis for believing women {or Blacks, or Martians), despite their relative poverty of knowledge and experience, would actually do better, and not far worse?

    Replies: @Eustace Tilley (not)

    “Fair to gaze on”, but knowledge tastes bitter.
    Idiocracy cannot make Twitter
    Or an Al Sharpton clone
    Or a surveillance drone.
    All the Turd Worlders need is a shitter.

  182. @Rob
    @Counterinsurgency

    Counter, that’s really interesting theory. Is it yours? If not,whose?

    Also, you don’t need to write counterinsurgency at the bottom of every post. It appears at the top in blue, and when what you say is interesting (and it was), people will move their eyes slightly to see who wrote it.

    Replies: @Counterinsurgency

    The city theory comes from Copley [1], and there is a source that can be cited for most of the rest of my hypothesis (some of it comes from inside information in the form of personal experience).
    So what I’ve said is a synthesis form quite a few different theories. That’s what most research is, and I should add that research is my professional field, for which I’m formally qualified, with honest to God degrees in various disciplines from real universities, for what that’s worth. Plus I’ve lived through a lot of history, often with an unusually front line seat: Takeover of the school systems after Sputnik, End of the economic base for cities, labor racketeering, Summer of Love, US Army Vietnam War, End of the research corporation, failure of academic engineering, failure of manufacturing, failure of NASA, failure of universities, failure of Federal government bureaucracy, failure of the integrated resource management systems and their proposed successors, and now failure of the cities. Oh, yes, and the destruction of the family. That one was hard to dodge.
    The research originally was and still is motivated by a desire to understand enough of what’s happening to survive it. Quite a few of my relations and friends and acquaintances didn’t either understand or survive, so I’m motivated. Also, I’ve seen too many people die, and I’d like to be able to keep people alive. I’ve only been able to do that a few times, the first time in High School when I saved a drowning man. Almost all my attempts in this area have failed.
    One of the things I’ve found out the hard way is that research requires a research community. You have to be able to talk about your ideas, to get different perspectives. That’s why the opposition (broadly conceived) troll bombs sites like this, and protects its own sites. They don’t want any other group to be able to think (perhaps because they can’t think, but more likely just to disorganize). The trolls are like static on the radio, both in information content and in unpleasantness.
    Also, the opposition is capable of various physical and financial attacks, so I’m not going to charge the machine gun. This isn’t WW I; let the opposition metaphorically shoot into the jungle.
    There are quite few books I can cite, and if you look over my past posting you’ll find most of them. Search in unz.com for the 1] and 2] and so on that I use for footnotes. If you’d like, I could post a consolidated list. The important thing I a working hypothesis is fidelity to reality. Does the hypothesis at least account for what you can see? A stronger test is prediction. Does the hypothesis successfully predict what happens next? Copley’s theory predicts the fall of megacities from political power _throughout the world_ as their large populations and hatred of their hinterlands couple with their dependency on external logistics transform from strengths to weaknesses. I’ve added some detail to it (as has Ron Unz) to get a hypothesis that suggests that Copley’s process is now irreversible. We’ll see, we are seeing, and that’s the test.

    In the meantime, the important thing is to see if the hypothesis helps you live through current events. The hypothesis simply points out the obvious: cities have lost their economic base and, instead of finding a new one or shutting down gracefully, have become politically supported zombies that import incompatible and economically unproductive populations to keep their populations up. [1] This has led to serious conflict with the cities’ hinterlands, and has led to the immigrants (internal and external) contending for control of the cities into which they have been imported. Should such control be achieved, a byproduct would be control over the United States Federal Government. [2] The failure of so many Western systems make this a very unstable arrangement. Both the cities and the Federal Government are consequently becoming less stable, weaker in practice while stronger in claims of authority.
    And, yes, the migrants, both internal and foreign, have their own way of doing things, one that appears to be genetic in origin. Their children don’t’ fit the society into which they have immigrated, and want to change the current society into something they can better live in (“Change America!”). Since there are very many immigrant groups, it is unlikely that any of them will achieve something they can better live in, the more so because of IQ deficits and the failure of the societies to which they are adapted to industrialize.
    This system is unstable in the same way the USSR was unstable before it vanished in the air. Take a look at “Gamergate comes to the classroom” from theVerge.com [3]:
    I’ll leave it at that (and the signature below separates text from footnote, so I’ll leave it In this time.)
    Counterinsurgency
    1] Formation of megacities and their political dominance is a worldwide phenomenon. From First World to Fourth World megacities rule their countries with considerable hostility towards their hinterland. See: Gregory R. Copley, _UnCivilization: Urban Geopolitics in a Time of Chaos_, 1st ed 2012. The phenomenon appears to be a byproduct of population increase.
    2] Again, this is a world wide phenomenon. Paris is perhaps the place where it is most obvious; the French Chief of State is just as dependent on the Islamic vote as the US Democratic Party is dependent on the immigrant vote. The various Islamic conflicts appear to be between cities and countryside, with the countryside winning over the urban Westernizers.
    3] Megan Farokhmanesh.
    “Gamergate comes to the classroom”.
    _theVerge.com_, 2019/08/21
    https://www.theverge.com/2019/8/21/20812153/youtube-gamergate-education-classroom-teachers-misinformation-reddit-twitter-online-harassment
    UC Irvine (!!!) is apparently no longer able to indoctrinate students without organized covert opposition, and the article suggest the use of force and compulsory renunciation of opinions by students as countermeasures. That would make degrees even more worthless than they are now; it’s a sign of astonishing weakness.

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  183. @Canadian Observer
    What percentage of new med school graduates nowadays are white male gentiles? In Canada and American blue states, I would say that it is around 15%. In red states, the number may be somewhat higher.

    This recent spat is yet another reason why white men are avoiding the STEM fields.

    Replies: @Art Deco

    About 27% of the doctoral degrees given out in medicine and allied professions are awarded to white males. Jews these days account for about 6-8% of those in professional managerial occupations, so white male gentiles might account for about 23%.

  184. @AnotherDad
    @prime noticer


    it wouldn’t be 2019 without the snitty, useless, backtalking daughter attacking you and your legacy while taking full personal advantage of everything you and your ancestors worked on for hundreds of years.

    letting them vote. what a disaster that’s turned out to be. sometimes we have no worse enemy than overeducated suburban women.

    “Will trade racists for immigrants!” the harridan said.
     
    Patriarchy is not sufficient, but necessary for civilization.

    Pointed out before: the geographic nation state is a great innovation, if you can draw reasonable "one people" borders around it. But it does suffer this "now these people are our problem" problem. I.e. what you want is to be able to toss people out. Or in other words, you have a bunch of people who are "not with the program" and they screw it up for everyone else.

    I'm convinced that given "evolutionary time" there would be a state--populated by a civilized race--that would again figure out republican patriarchy--this time with a harder ideological "we're going to keep this" edge. (Voting would be by responsible self-supporting, married men with children--that sort of deal.) That nation state would be so much better run than others, it would clean up.

    It would be great if America had maintained some real federalism as it might be possible to get such recovery in the US context providing a lesson for others. (That was the original design.) But federalism is gone.

    My bet is we're going to run into the technological buzz saw--automation revolution, bio-weapons, DNA manipulation--that is going to be a game changer, before we see recovery. But if we don't the winner will be whatever civilized people recovery a modern patriarchy.

    Replies: @Corvinus

    “Patriarchy is not sufficient, but necessary for civilization.”

    Partnership and agreement between men and women is required, not patriarchy.

    “I’m convinced that given “evolutionary time” there would be a state–populated by a civilized race–that would again figure out republican patriarchy–this time with a harder ideological “we’re going to keep this” edge. (Voting would be by responsible self-supporting, married men with children–that sort of deal.)”

    Wishful thinking on your part.

    “But if we don’t the winner will be whatever civilized people recovery a modern patriarchy.”

    You have a strange way insisting who is and who is not “civilized”.

    “it wouldn’t be 2019 without the snitty, useless, backtalking daughter attacking you and your legacy while taking full personal advantage of everything you and your ancestors worked on for hundreds of years.”

    Ouch, that stings. In all seriousness, the daughter should have shut her yap out of respect for her father and made her points to him in private.

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