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Commenter Ghgffffffff writes:

Does this guy with the bullhorn know he could just order ahead using the Starbucks app instead?

 
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  1. Bottom left corner. Hehe.

    • Replies: @bored identity
    @Chuck

    Bottom Left, indeed.

    bored identity would use it as a fine example of the high probability of one person being Larry, Curly & Moe at the same time...every.single.time.

    , @riches
    @Chuck

    The anonymity afforded to commenters allows me to admit that after being directed to look at the bottom left corner, I misread the next word, "Hehe."

    Replies: @el topo

    , @Olorin
    @Chuck

    It was the first thing I noticed about the photo, leading me to think originally that the photo was a shopped meme.

    I especially like the curly forelocks. Can anyone identify this Orthodox SJW individual? My bet would be: paid "organizer." Some of the other shriekers were wearing identical pocket-raincoats such as those that "organizers" hand out to those who show up for a bit of Situationist Street Theater, along with the other accoutrements of the genre.

    I've wondered for 40 years now when blacks would wake up to how they're used in this manner. The Nation of Islam guys I knew in college were aware...as were some of the early Rainbow Coalition ladies. But some of us may recall how that Wokening went...what with media campaigns designed to get the boy back on the "civil" "rights" "movement" leash.

    http://www.thecrimson.com/article/1984/3/5/jesse-and-the-jews-pbtbhis-is/?page=single

    (By Michael Hirschorn, no less.)

  2. Bottom left. Hehe.

  3. Very sharp, Steve. The black man has the megaphone, and there is even the word “blonde” above the white guy.

    • Replies: @Clyde
    @Buzz Mohawk

    And the barista's name is Zack! A name_s0_white it's a microagression ons alls peoples of colors.

  4. So glad I already boycotted Starbucks since they promised to hire 10,000 refugees.

    Nothing lasts forever. Maybe 10 years from now Starbucks will have the cachet of TJ Maxx.

    • Replies: @The Last Real Calvinist
    @Anon

    Hey, what's the matter with TJ Maxx? I love shopping there when I'm in the States. So much classier than Marshalls, you know.

    Replies: @Hhsiii

    , @donut
    @Anon

    Hey !
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E9DzuisWI-I

    , @AnotherDad
    @Anon


    So glad I already boycotted Starbucks since they promised to hire 10,000 refugees.
     
    Outside of the ridiculous prices for a coffeee, i don't know why any white person with any self-respect would go to Starbucks run by an openly anti-white, anti-national, lefty Jew. Why help him buy the rope to hang us with?

    ~~~

    I'm neither a coffee guy nor an entrepreneur, but if i was i think there's golden marketing opportunity opening up:

    "White's Coffee"

    Tagline: "You can have it any way but black!"

    Replies: @Harry Baldwin

  5. Latte Fumo! What do we want! Our Latte Fumo now!

  6. Now that looks like a conversation about race.

  7. @Buzz Mohawk
    Very sharp, Steve. The black man has the megaphone, and there is even the word "blonde" above the white guy.

    Replies: @Clyde

    And the barista’s name is Zack! A name_s0_white it’s a microagression ons alls peoples of colors.

    • LOL: Percy Gryce
  8. They need an East Asian guy to shout “Hey hey hey! This is coffee shop!”

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    @Buzz Mohawk

    The megaphone Nubian cannot disrupt your coffee shop if you station the East Asian on the roof.

    Replies: @Twinkie, @Buzz Mohawk

    , @leopard
    @Buzz Mohawk

    What is with obsession with East Asian.

    Replies: @Colleen Pater, @Percy Gryce

    , @Mr. Anon
    @Buzz Mohawk


    They need an East Asian guy to shout “Hey hey hey! This is coffee shop!”
     
    This meme was inevitable:

    https://memegenerator.net/img/instances/74918893.jpg

  9. I just get this feeling, that the direction of this poor barista’s life was unalterably mapped out when his parents named him Zack.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    @Daniel H

    I knew a guy, a great guy, great carpenter, great driver, who left our construction crew to be a full-time Starbucks barista. This would be with a pay cut and after splurging on an almost daily basis on Starbucks products. I think there was a huge cultural factor, certainly there was in the 90s, and perhaps for some people there still is. He wanted to work at Starbucks the way some people want to work at Disney.
    Course I hate Starbucks (and have increasing difficulty locating Caribou), so I never run across him.

    Replies: @Mishra, @Olorin

    , @AnotherDad
    @Daniel H


    I just get this feeling, that the direction of this poor barista’s life was unalterably mapped out when his parents named him Zack.
     
    Maybe so.

    But he could change his life in an instant, if he'd do the honorable thing and grab that punk's bullhorn with one hand, and when he goes for it, cold cock him with the other.

    Yeah, he'd lose his job, but the rest of his life--his self-respect, his luck with the ladies, the odds of him having a good wife and a passel of fine kids--would immediately improve.

    Replies: @RadicalCenter

  10. And Amma take a cookie. See if I don’t. See if I don’t. You stan right there cashier-man, and think about all that you done, and about all the injustice this brand has stood for. These cookies be like two dollars normally. Das injustice right there.

  11. Anonymous[264] • Disclaimer says:

    Poor Zack.

    • Replies: @Boethiuss
    @Anonymous


    Poor Zack.

     

    Yeah, it'd take more composure than I probably have to remain stoic while allowing some ignorant to bullhorn me from four feet away.
    , @Olorin
    @Anonymous

    I dunno. I read his posture and thousand-yard stare as bravely, stoically Taking One For The SJW Team.

    There is no air of bemused mastery, as with the NYPD cop shrieked at by the mestizo female.

    https://goodbyeamericainaphoto.files.wordpress.com/2016/11/postversuspreamerica.jpg?w=620&h=469

    PTSD engineered into white men can come in very handy when you're trying to defeat them. Replace the ancestral winterpeople legacy of survival and pushback with frozen silence.

    Before you know it, you've got 72 bathrooms being the highest mission of any "higher education" institution, and all institutions reduced to Struggle Session Camps in which you lend tattered remnants of families money to rent seats.

    , @Da Wei
    @Anonymous

    Jack good at his job interview. Ax Jack anythin.

  12. @Buzz Mohawk
    They need an East Asian guy to shout "Hey hey hey! This is coffee shop!"

    Replies: @J.Ross, @leopard, @Mr. Anon

    The megaphone Nubian cannot disrupt your coffee shop if you station the East Asian on the roof.

    • Replies: @Twinkie
    @J.Ross


    The megaphone Nubian cannot disrupt your coffee shop if you station the East Asian on the roof.
     
    Yeah, but those were Koreans c. 1992. Hard-headed, hard-nosed, hard-drinking South Korean Marine Corps veterans. Peak Koreans. They are fading away like "the Greatest Generation."

    Replies: @J.Ross, @Percy Gryce

    , @Buzz Mohawk
    @J.Ross

    Yes.

    https://pics.onsizzle.com/roof-koreans-for-hire-baltimore-roof-koreans-for-hire-much-13493423.png

    Replies: @Dan Hayes

  13. This picture has inspired soooooo many amazing memes…but the best that I have seen, by far, is this one:

    :: Extreme Attenborough voice ::

    “Very rarely is the subconscious transformation of a live specimen into a trump voter ever caught on film in the wild, so this is such a rare special treat to behold.”

    PS, I’m super new to Twitter (ss well as this blog) and don’t know how to “imbed” or “repost” anything properly…new learning curve (I’m also a terrible speller).

    • Replies: @Mishra
    @kimchilover


    (I’m also a terrible speller)
     
    We can forgive pretty much anything but that. Otherwise, welcome ;)

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    , @Darwinian Arminian
    @kimchilover

    Apart from the obvious visual hook, the best thing about this shot is the timing. It wasn't more than 48 hours ago that the SJW left thought they'd found their latest smoking gun of white supremacy with a story about a barista who phoned the cops to take away two black guys loitering in a Philadelphia Starbucks. So they immediately jumped into their victory dance -- and ended up giving us a picture that will only make the millions who see it think, "What a shame that those kinds of calls aren't made more often!"

    Thus proving once again that there is nothing the left can possess which the alt-right cannot take away.

    , @RadicalCenter
    @kimchilover

    Welcome! We apologize in advance for our general orneriness and affectionate rudeness ;)

    I like kimchi and a lot of other traditional banchan items too.

    , @Autochthon
    @kimchilover

    I shan't be so cromulent as is my wont: 'Round here, embedding and reposting is less important than bedding, riposting, and – above all! – embiggening.

  14. #enough gun protest at Starbuck’s?

  15. Perhaps this photo should be captioned: “Zach re-thinks his life choices.”

    • Replies: @BenKenobi
    @black sea

    Dude's name is written on the smock and you still spelled it wrong.

    Replies: @Mishra, @black sea, @Reg Cæsar

    , @Neuday
    @black sea


    Perhaps this photo should be captioned: “Zach re-thinks his life choices.”
     
    Once you go black you can't spell Zack.
    , @RadicalCenter
    @black sea

    Or hopefully, "The day Zack was red-pilled by being deafeningly yelled at by a rude angry in-your-face borderline-retarded African about something he had nothing to do with."

    , @Da Wei
    @black sea

    Zack white, but he be learnin' BLM!

  16. Steve,

    The photo perfectly encapsulates the actual power-structure of modern-day America.

    The Starbucks barista is required to passively endure the diatribes of the bull-horn-wielding melaninized SJW.

    BOTTOM LINE: The SJWs yield power over those unfortunate enough to get in the way of the ever ongoing and expanding political and social revolution.

    • Replies: @RadicalCenter
    @Dan Hayes

    Right. I was thinking that in a normal society, the guy being deafened at the counter would be fully supported if reached over and knocked the bullhorn and/or the screamer to the ground rather than endure the abuse.

    And successfully sue Starbucks if the employer allowed him to be deafened and abused, let alone refused to let him leave the counter until the animal was removed.

  17. @J.Ross
    @Buzz Mohawk

    The megaphone Nubian cannot disrupt your coffee shop if you station the East Asian on the roof.

    Replies: @Twinkie, @Buzz Mohawk

    The megaphone Nubian cannot disrupt your coffee shop if you station the East Asian on the roof.

    Yeah, but those were Koreans c. 1992. Hard-headed, hard-nosed, hard-drinking South Korean Marine Corps veterans. Peak Koreans. They are fading away like “the Greatest Generation.”

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    @Twinkie

    This is deeply worrying. Will we see a day when no one cares what is and is not a library?

    Replies: @Mishra

    , @Percy Gryce
    @Twinkie

    I remember American Vietnam vets speaking fondly of ROK soldiers as some of the best allies.

    Replies: @Brutusale

  18. @J.Ross
    @Buzz Mohawk

    The megaphone Nubian cannot disrupt your coffee shop if you station the East Asian on the roof.

    Replies: @Twinkie, @Buzz Mohawk

    Yes.

    • Replies: @Dan Hayes
    @Buzz Mohawk

    Buzz Mohawk:

    After all those years I still have the mental picture of cigarette smoking rifle wielding ex Korean Marines on rooftops during the LA riots!

    At that time our NYC Jewish doctor told me how distraught his Korean colleagues were about the LA Koreans left unprotected by the city, literally being thrown under the bus!

    Comes the Revolution, I want to be with them!

    Replies: @Twinkie

  19. @Daniel H
    I just get this feeling, that the direction of this poor barista's life was unalterably mapped out when his parents named him Zack.

    Replies: @J.Ross, @AnotherDad

    I knew a guy, a great guy, great carpenter, great driver, who left our construction crew to be a full-time Starbucks barista. This would be with a pay cut and after splurging on an almost daily basis on Starbucks products. I think there was a huge cultural factor, certainly there was in the 90s, and perhaps for some people there still is. He wanted to work at Starbucks the way some people want to work at Disney.
    Course I hate Starbucks (and have increasing difficulty locating Caribou), so I never run across him.

    • Replies: @Mishra
    @J.Ross

    Incomprehensible, except that perhaps he was looking to meet women. Sort of hard to do that on legit construction sites. OTOH, few self-respecting women will tolerate more than a wistful glance from a man who works behind the counter at Starbucks.

    I'm proud to say that I have never given that company a penny, and never will.

    Replies: @Bill P

    , @Olorin
    @J.Ross


    I hate Starbucks (and have increasing difficulty locating Caribou),
     
    Two words:

    Dutch Brothers
  20. I had always believed (actually hoped) that Starbucks would retrench if there ever were a major economic downturn.

    That prediction seemed to hold after the 2008 financial collapse when some of their NYC sites folded.

    Unfortunately their collapse was short-lived and they once again sprouted out all over the place.

    This disappointed me no end, since I have always regarded Starbucks as the pernicious innate personification of uncontrolled Yuppiedom!

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Dan Hayes


    This disappointed me no end, since I have always regarded Starbucks as the pernicious innate personification of uncontrolled Yuppiedom!

     

    Starbucks was a local hole-in-the-wall selling bags of beans to neighbors. Their Brooklynite boss threw together a coffee bar as an experiment, after the ones he saw in Milan when attending a conference there. It was a monster hit that surprised everyone at the store. People lined up around the block.

    So blame the customers for that growth.

    Caribou manages to outsell Starbucks in their home market, the only US market the latter doesn't dominate. (Shades of The Coca-Cola Kid.) Once they bought up an empty space in the St Paul skyway system, a few steps across the way from an established local one-off, with no seating, the Daily Grind. Boy, did they catch hell for that act of aggression.

    Caribou's excuse, with some validity, was that their designs were not on the Grind, and they were fine with ceding the lady her loyal walk-by clientele. No, there was a need for a sit-down shop as well, this space was empty and ideal, and if they didn't take it, Starbucks would.

    Our local Royko, Nick Coleman (whose brother is now mayor), defended the move with the crack, yes, it's a corporate behemoth, but dammit it's our corporate behemoth. Keep the Seattleites at bay!

    Ah, localism in America. Buckley defended dealing with Pinochet the same way.

    BTW, the Grind lady reopened in the suburb in which she lived. It must still be going, as I saw someone with their sweatshirt the other day.

    Replies: @Bill P

    , @MB
    @Dan Hayes

    Up here in the land of the Great Northwest, they are know by some at least, as Charbucks.
    There is better tasting coffee that isn't burnt/overpriced by design.

  21. @Twinkie
    @J.Ross


    The megaphone Nubian cannot disrupt your coffee shop if you station the East Asian on the roof.
     
    Yeah, but those were Koreans c. 1992. Hard-headed, hard-nosed, hard-drinking South Korean Marine Corps veterans. Peak Koreans. They are fading away like "the Greatest Generation."

    Replies: @J.Ross, @Percy Gryce

    This is deeply worrying. Will we see a day when no one cares what is and is not a library?

    • LOL: Twinkie
    • Replies: @Mishra
    @J.Ross

    Indeed we shall. Probably next week, or November at the latest.

    I also lament what Twinkie has shared with us tonight.

  22. @Anon
    So glad I already boycotted Starbucks since they promised to hire 10,000 refugees.

    Nothing lasts forever. Maybe 10 years from now Starbucks will have the cachet of TJ Maxx.

    Replies: @The Last Real Calvinist, @donut, @AnotherDad

    Hey, what’s the matter with TJ Maxx? I love shopping there when I’m in the States. So much classier than Marshalls, you know.

    • Replies: @Hhsiii
    @The Last Real Calvinist

    Yeah, my wife loves TJ’s. I should have bought the stock in the ‘80s when we shop there for cheap khakis and jeans in college. It’s gone up about 100x with reinvested dividends.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.theonion.com/t-j-maxx-recreates-in-store-shopping-experience-with-n-1819580303/amp

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.theonion.com/difficult-to-tell-if-t-j-maxx-hit-hard-by-recession-1819570469/amp

    Replies: @The Last Real Calvinist

  23. I don’t know if this is real or staged, but this cheerful guy is pretty funny:
    how to get a free coffee, Starbucks reparations, black lives matter, you know what I’m saying?
    https://mobile.twitter.com/VibeHi/status/985642512206491649

  24. If you’d like to see an alternative view of this incident, take a look at this amazing video by an ex-police officer:

    https://youtube.com/watch?v=UoUv-qSi9yk

    Be sure you watch long enough for these highlights:

    6:15 “Black people are running the Philadelphia police department.”

    8:15 “why do we have such a hard time following instructions?”

    10:30 “the mentality that some black people have that somebody owe you something, we’re victims – nobody owes you nothing”

    10:45 “white liberals are killing black people and we can’t see it with our own eyes… young black people need to understand that you’ve got to follow the rules.”

    • Replies: @European-American
    @Anon7

    This guy is criticized here with “not all skinfolk are kinfolk”:
    https://www.theroot.com/this-cop-proves-that-all-skinfolk-are-not-kinfolk-1819023757

    He is Brandon Tatum, an ex-athlete and cop who is apparently now making a career as a speaker talking against the tide. Good luck to him...

    , @Yak-15
    @Anon7

    I applaud this man and his efforts but the fact people like us flock to these videos is indicative of the fact that white people no longer have moral authority on racial issues.

    , @Olorin
    @Anon7

    Interesting clip, thanks. He says that this happened at a Starbucks located in an "80% white" area of Philly.

    The only one I know of downtown that could be called that is the neighborhood where Sabrina Rubin Erdely and her hubby live. Sorta of in the region of Society Hill/Washington Square to Rittenhouse Square. Closer to 90% "white" according to City Data.

  25. @Buzz Mohawk
    @J.Ross

    Yes.

    https://pics.onsizzle.com/roof-koreans-for-hire-baltimore-roof-koreans-for-hire-much-13493423.png

    Replies: @Dan Hayes

    Buzz Mohawk:

    After all those years I still have the mental picture of cigarette smoking rifle wielding ex Korean Marines on rooftops during the LA riots!

    At that time our NYC Jewish doctor told me how distraught his Korean colleagues were about the LA Koreans left unprotected by the city, literally being thrown under the bus!

    Comes the Revolution, I want to be with them!

    • Replies: @Twinkie
    @Dan Hayes


    Comes the Revolution, I want to be with them!
     
    I have one family of Korean neighbors nearby, and I know that family is heavily armed. Apparently, the father of my neighbor (who also lives nearby) was a South Korean marine in the Vietnam War, and got the kids, including my neighbor, started on guns early. Two of those siblings are ex-military and one is a police officer.

    My neighborhood, despite being in a Charles Murray super zip code, is bristling with weaponry. The local gun ranges - all of them - are always packed with long wait lists.

    Leftists who think that gun culture is all "red-necky" or "hill-billy" doesn't seem to know about "gun culture 2.0." The parking lot at my local gun shows is a veritable luxury car show. I bet my county has enough guns to outfit a militia bigger than the armies of some countries.

    Replies: @Mis(ter)Anthrope, @Ivy

  26. Every time blacks harass a white liberal, they make a conservative. Let ’em do it. the Alt-Right benefits from black obnoxiousness and stupidity.

  27. @Anonymous
    Poor Zack.

    Replies: @Boethiuss, @Olorin, @Da Wei

    Poor Zack.

    Yeah, it’d take more composure than I probably have to remain stoic while allowing some ignorant to bullhorn me from four feet away.

  28. I can see millions of fed up Americans standing behind Zack.
    Zack for President! Back Zack!

    • Replies: @European-American
    @anon

    Zack lives matter.

  29. @anon
    I can see millions of fed up Americans standing behind Zack.
    Zack for President! Back Zack!

    Replies: @European-American

    Zack lives matter.

  30. @J.Ross
    @Daniel H

    I knew a guy, a great guy, great carpenter, great driver, who left our construction crew to be a full-time Starbucks barista. This would be with a pay cut and after splurging on an almost daily basis on Starbucks products. I think there was a huge cultural factor, certainly there was in the 90s, and perhaps for some people there still is. He wanted to work at Starbucks the way some people want to work at Disney.
    Course I hate Starbucks (and have increasing difficulty locating Caribou), so I never run across him.

    Replies: @Mishra, @Olorin

    Incomprehensible, except that perhaps he was looking to meet women. Sort of hard to do that on legit construction sites. OTOH, few self-respecting women will tolerate more than a wistful glance from a man who works behind the counter at Starbucks.

    I’m proud to say that I have never given that company a penny, and never will.

    • Agree: jim jones
    • Replies: @Bill P
    @Mishra

    Uh, more likely he wanted to meet guys. Lots of coffee jerks are gay.

    As for the idea that few women will brook attention from guys who work at espresso stands, you've got to be kidding. Women don't "tolerate" glances; they thrive on them. I can't think of many better ways to meet women than working at an urban espresso stand. Straight, good-looking Starbucks male espresso pullers get way more more ladies than your typical $120k/year software engineer. Back when I was in my early 20s, I knew gay cafe workers who would pretend to be straight to get better tips from the women.

    One I remember fondly was such a sweetheart and a very good-looking guy. He'd always give me stuff for free, even as the ladies swooned over him and tossed bills in his jar. Too bad he wasn't born a woman. Would have made a good wife with the right equipment.

  31. @J.Ross
    @Twinkie

    This is deeply worrying. Will we see a day when no one cares what is and is not a library?

    Replies: @Mishra

    Indeed we shall. Probably next week, or November at the latest.

    I also lament what Twinkie has shared with us tonight.

  32. @kimchilover
    This picture has inspired soooooo many amazing memes...but the best that I have seen, by far, is this one:

    :: Extreme Attenborough voice ::

    “Very rarely is the subconscious transformation of a live specimen into a trump voter ever caught on film in the wild, so this is such a rare special treat to behold.”

    PS, I'm super new to Twitter (ss well as this blog) and don't know how to "imbed" or "repost" anything properly...new learning curve (I'm also a terrible speller).

    Replies: @Mishra, @Darwinian Arminian, @RadicalCenter, @Autochthon

    (I’m also a terrible speller)

    We can forgive pretty much anything but that. Otherwise, welcome 😉

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Mishra



    (I’m also a terrible speller)

     

    We can forgive pretty much anything but that. Otherwise, welcome ;)

     

    You yourself misspelled "dishrag".

    Replies: @Mishra

  33. Clearly that white American man is obsessed with self-esteem.

    Someone should tell him, “儿子, 一个男子汉要能吃苦.”

  34. @black sea
    Perhaps this photo should be captioned: "Zach re-thinks his life choices."

    Replies: @BenKenobi, @Neuday, @RadicalCenter, @Da Wei

    Dude’s name is written on the smock and you still spelled it wrong.

    • Replies: @Mishra
    @BenKenobi

    See kimchilover? I wasn't kidding.

    , @black sea
    @BenKenobi

    Zach just gets no love no matter which way he turns.

    , @Reg Cæsar
    @BenKenobi


    Dude’s name is written on the smock and you still spelled it wrong.

     

    Or maybe Starbucks did. Teenage Dav Pilkey's fast-food nametag was misspelled. He ran with it, and now he's famous. (If you're prepubescent.)
  35. Anonymous[326] • Disclaimer says:

    I haven’t been to Philly in several years, so things might have shifted, but while 18th and Spruce is a gentrified area, it is only a few blocks from the “gentrification line” (southwards) and conditions drop very quickly there. I think the realtors have been trying to push it south, with some success, for the past fifteen years or so, but the line is still very real. South of that line are some bad black neighborhoods. Everyone there knows this, even the most SJWish hipsters. Life depends on knowing this, even if you can’t discuss it overtly.

    I used to spend considerable amounts of time in coffee shops in other “slightly inside the line” areas of Philadelphia. Extrapolating from my experience, I’d say the baristas had to throw out “bad blacks” probably several times a week. This wasn’t optional. (To be fair, the worst bad actor I knew of was not black.) (I wouldn’t be the least bit surprised if someone posts a comment and guesses exactly who I’m talking about…)

    I have some sympathy for these black guys in the story too, since I have spent many, many hours working (on my own stuff) at coffee shops, including Starbucks. But I never sit there with no purchase on my table.

    • Replies: @Catholic Philly Dad
    @Anonymous

    The line is further south now. Around Washington Avenue

    Replies: @Anonymous

    , @Percy Gryce
    @Anonymous


    I haven’t been to Philly in several years, so things might have shifted, but while 18th and Spruce is a gentrified area
     
    That's very near where the late Digby Baltzell (d. 1996) lived--so I think it's been liveable for a while.
  36. @Anon7
    If you’d like to see an alternative view of this incident, take a look at this amazing video by an ex-police officer:

    https://youtube.com/watch?v=UoUv-qSi9yk

    Be sure you watch long enough for these highlights:

    6:15 “Black people are running the Philadelphia police department.”

    8:15 “why do we have such a hard time following instructions?”

    10:30 “the mentality that some black people have that somebody owe you something, we’re victims - nobody owes you nothing”

    10:45 “white liberals are killing black people and we can’t see it with our own eyes... young black people need to understand that you’ve got to follow the rules.”

    Replies: @European-American, @Yak-15, @Olorin

    This guy is criticized here with “not all skinfolk are kinfolk”:
    https://www.theroot.com/this-cop-proves-that-all-skinfolk-are-not-kinfolk-1819023757

    He is Brandon Tatum, an ex-athlete and cop who is apparently now making a career as a speaker talking against the tide. Good luck to him…

  37. Zack doesn’t have to put up with that. A lot of workers don’t realize that when customers treat you that badly you aren’t obliged to stand there and take it. If management doesn’t back you up in these situations the company is liable.

    If I were Zack, I’d relax and get a lawyer, then sue over “hostile work environment” if Howard Schultz requires him to endure such abuse as a condition of employment.

    BTW, most black customers I’ve dealt with since I started working at age 16 have been perfectly reasonable, so there’s nothing discriminatory about shaming those who misbehave. If you’re working at a business where it’s common for any class of people to misbehave, then it’s time to get another job and retaliate against your former employer for the benefit of anyone else who might be suckered into working there in the future. There’s some wiggle room depending on the pay, but nobody should be forced to debase themselves to earn a living.

    • Agree: Dave Pinsen
    • Replies: @Jack D
    @Bill P

    Starbucks fired the manager who called the cops - that's how much they have their employee's backs. Employees are expendable but the stamp of approval of the Cathedral is priceless.

    The employees who still work there will get the message - never never call the cops on black people, no matter how badly they misbehave. This will seal the fate of all Starbucks in marginal areas. Once a Starbucks becomes known as a place where vibrant folks can hang out without having to even buy anything, that will be the end of it. White hipsters love to proclaim how much they love black people but they avoid real actual ghetto blacks at all costs.

    But, Starbucks was in the position of the guy who had to cut his arm off in order to save his life. "Starbucks is racist" threatened their entire business, not just the few stores they have on the fringes of vibrant neighborhoods and had to be squelched at all costs.

    Replies: @The preferred nomenclature is..., @RadicalCenter

  38. Notice the little mutt women hanging off to the side, useless employees, some awkwardly smiling, while the solitary white man, representing the very people who made possible the store of plenty on display, stands stoically absorbing the abuse.

    This picture is proof that photography sometimes rises to the level of great painting.

    A grinder could write thousands of words of analysis of this image.

    • Replies: @PiltdownMan
    @Buzz Mohawk


    This picture is proof that photography sometimes rises to the level of great painting.
     
    Photojournalists who specialize in street photography are unusually good at noticing. The same is true of photo editors.

    It is a virtual certainty that both the person who took this picture, as well as the people responsible for its wider dissemination, are fully aware of the nuances and ironies implied in this picture even if (as is likely) they keep quiet about certain aspects for the sake of job security.

    The late John Morris, one of the most eminent of all photo editors in the magazine and newspaper trade, wrote a book about his job titled Get the Picture. It's a fascinating read.

  39. @Mishra
    @J.Ross

    Incomprehensible, except that perhaps he was looking to meet women. Sort of hard to do that on legit construction sites. OTOH, few self-respecting women will tolerate more than a wistful glance from a man who works behind the counter at Starbucks.

    I'm proud to say that I have never given that company a penny, and never will.

    Replies: @Bill P

    Uh, more likely he wanted to meet guys. Lots of coffee jerks are gay.

    As for the idea that few women will brook attention from guys who work at espresso stands, you’ve got to be kidding. Women don’t “tolerate” glances; they thrive on them. I can’t think of many better ways to meet women than working at an urban espresso stand. Straight, good-looking Starbucks male espresso pullers get way more more ladies than your typical $120k/year software engineer. Back when I was in my early 20s, I knew gay cafe workers who would pretend to be straight to get better tips from the women.

    One I remember fondly was such a sweetheart and a very good-looking guy. He’d always give me stuff for free, even as the ladies swooned over him and tossed bills in his jar. Too bad he wasn’t born a woman. Would have made a good wife with the right equipment.

  40. Wow, only when zoomed in I realized the black guy is being filmed – and just look at the expression of the women partially hidden behind the megaphone (presumably reporter?)

  41. When baristin’ at Starbucks, in real psychic pain,
    An’ Diversity’s bullies so loudly complain,
    Just attend to your breath: It’ll calm down your brain,
    An’ stand straight and tall like a soldier.

  42. I’m all for the Negroes. Black Coffee Matters.

    Let tons of Negroes enter Starbucks and loiter all they want.

    Starbucks is always lecturing to us about black nobility.

    O-kay!! Have tons of noble negroes loiter all they want at Starbucks without buying anything.

    Turn every Starbucks into Starbuckwheat.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    @Anon

    The way their cowardly and stupid executives act, I'm right with you. It wouldn't bother me a bit either, as I am not really into any of the coffee shops.

  43. Race Together

    LOL

    “How do you want your coffee?”

    “Black and LOUD”

    • Replies: @Henry's Cat
    @Anon

    Flatten whitey.

  44. Zack will be looking at a tasty six-figure settlement from the deep pockets of Starbucks when he sues for the hearing loss he suffered that day due to corporate negligence.

  45. @BenKenobi
    @black sea

    Dude's name is written on the smock and you still spelled it wrong.

    Replies: @Mishra, @black sea, @Reg Cæsar

    See kimchilover? I wasn’t kidding.

  46. Anonymous[326] • Disclaimer says:

    (I can’t tell if I posted this already or not… anyway…)

    • Replies: @Anon
    @Anonymous

    People mistake him for a protester.

    He was just yelling, "Hey hey, this is the library".

  47. Anon[151] • Disclaimer says:

    The Young Turks are already blaming StarCucks for “arresting two black men for being black.” Never mind the context: two black guys loiter on your property, refuse to buy anything, and refuse to leave when asked. #blackprivilege

    Honestly, I’ve had it with these leftist scum. It’s time to either revoke their speech rights and summarily deport them or it’s time for a secession movement. I don’t want to be in the same country as them any more. I’ve had it with their conspiracy mongering over Russia, their racist vandalism of our monuments, their biased propaganda media, and their constant anti-white race baiting. Freedom of speech should be reserved exclusively for our people and should never be allowed to be directed at harming our people by racist invaders and their descendants.

    In better news: a left-wing cuck lawyer threw away a good life and years of education by dousing himself in gasoline and setting himself ablaze — protesting global warming. Please let it trend, please.

    https://www.cnn.com/2018/04/15/us/david-buckel-gay-rights-attorney-suicide/index.html

  48. This is what happens when you don’t serve coffee to the inmates on time.

    http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/inmate-bodies-stacked-macabre-woodpile-prison-riot-54518688

  49. @Anonymous
    (I can't tell if I posted this already or not... anyway...)
    https://macaulay.cuny.edu/eportfolios/george11/files/2011/10/Tank-Man1.jpg

    Replies: @Anon

    People mistake him for a protester.

    He was just yelling, “Hey hey, this is the library”.

  50. @BenKenobi
    @black sea

    Dude's name is written on the smock and you still spelled it wrong.

    Replies: @Mishra, @black sea, @Reg Cæsar

    Zach just gets no love no matter which way he turns.

  51. @Dan Hayes
    @Buzz Mohawk

    Buzz Mohawk:

    After all those years I still have the mental picture of cigarette smoking rifle wielding ex Korean Marines on rooftops during the LA riots!

    At that time our NYC Jewish doctor told me how distraught his Korean colleagues were about the LA Koreans left unprotected by the city, literally being thrown under the bus!

    Comes the Revolution, I want to be with them!

    Replies: @Twinkie

    Comes the Revolution, I want to be with them!

    I have one family of Korean neighbors nearby, and I know that family is heavily armed. Apparently, the father of my neighbor (who also lives nearby) was a South Korean marine in the Vietnam War, and got the kids, including my neighbor, started on guns early. Two of those siblings are ex-military and one is a police officer.

    My neighborhood, despite being in a Charles Murray super zip code, is bristling with weaponry. The local gun ranges – all of them – are always packed with long wait lists.

    Leftists who think that gun culture is all “red-necky” or “hill-billy” doesn’t seem to know about “gun culture 2.0.” The parking lot at my local gun shows is a veritable luxury car show. I bet my county has enough guns to outfit a militia bigger than the armies of some countries.

    • Agree: RadicalCenter
    • Replies: @Mis(ter)Anthrope
    @Twinkie

    My father served in Vietnam and he told me the Korean soldiers were bad ass soldiers.

    On the other hand, he said the South Vietnamese were on average pretty worthless fighters.

    , @Ivy
    @Twinkie

    Similar neighborhood. In ours, you can go up and down the streets while walking the dog, for example, and have a pretty good sense of who has guns.

    Replies: @RadicalCenter

  52. “If you want a vision of the future, imagine a black boot stamping on a white face – forever.”

  53. “Kunta is spelt with a K, whiteboy”

  54. @The Last Real Calvinist
    @Anon

    Hey, what's the matter with TJ Maxx? I love shopping there when I'm in the States. So much classier than Marshalls, you know.

    Replies: @Hhsiii

    Yeah, my wife loves TJ’s. I should have bought the stock in the ‘80s when we shop there for cheap khakis and jeans in college. It’s gone up about 100x with reinvested dividends.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.theonion.com/t-j-maxx-recreates-in-store-shopping-experience-with-n-1819580303/amp

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.theonion.com/difficult-to-tell-if-t-j-maxx-hit-hard-by-recession-1819570469/amp

    • Replies: @The Last Real Calvinist
    @Hhsiii

    Thanks for those links; they're comedy gold for long-term TJM/Marshalls customers like us.

  55. @Chuck
    Bottom left corner. Hehe.

    Replies: @bored identity, @riches, @Olorin

    Bottom Left, indeed.

    bored identity would use it as a fine example of the high probability of one person being Larry, Curly & Moe at the same time…every.single.time.

  56. Unfortunately working at Starbucks is probably the only way Zack can get health insurance in the current US economy.

  57. @Buzz Mohawk
    They need an East Asian guy to shout "Hey hey hey! This is coffee shop!"

    Replies: @J.Ross, @leopard, @Mr. Anon

    What is with obsession with East Asian.

    • Replies: @Colleen Pater
    @leopard

    Well they're becoming the new jews only more numerous so a bigger problem. The right thought they would be the new whites but that wasn't what happened with second generation. Which was beside the point in a typically cuck gop way they missed the point entirely which is, we have whites already and theres no such thing as proxy whites, you dont win wars inviting in outside troops especially a war over outside troops. and the last thing we needed was another high cog elite with outside allegiance suing for more diversity spots- no I dont care if they scored higher I care that my universities are run for the benefit of my people - no america is not a free country in that sense its a white country under attack by jews and their mongrel hordes

    , @Percy Gryce
    @leopard

    Model minority.

  58. anon[397] • Disclaimer says:

    Imagine wanting to be arrested so badly that you’ll choose getting arrested over spending three dollars on a cup of coffee, thereby making yourself a paying customer.

    That’s the only explanation for this story that makes any sense. So I don’t see what the problem is. They wanted to get arrested, and they got arrested.

    I don’t understand why those black guys would want to get arrested, but whatever. It’s a little unfair to protest over it afterwards, but I guess that’s the way the world works now.

    • Replies: @Harry Baldwin
    @anon

    They'll probably get a big settlement and free lattes at Starbucks for life.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

  59. Do we know if this photo is staged?

    I wonder if some photographer didn’t direct Zack to stand and look that way.

    Either way, if someone were to set up a gofundme for Zack, and it raised a lot of money so he didn’t have to put up with that shit anymore, that would be good PR. However, he might be harassed even further and encouraged to donate it to the SPLC.

  60. @Anon7
    If you’d like to see an alternative view of this incident, take a look at this amazing video by an ex-police officer:

    https://youtube.com/watch?v=UoUv-qSi9yk

    Be sure you watch long enough for these highlights:

    6:15 “Black people are running the Philadelphia police department.”

    8:15 “why do we have such a hard time following instructions?”

    10:30 “the mentality that some black people have that somebody owe you something, we’re victims - nobody owes you nothing”

    10:45 “white liberals are killing black people and we can’t see it with our own eyes... young black people need to understand that you’ve got to follow the rules.”

    Replies: @European-American, @Yak-15, @Olorin

    I applaud this man and his efforts but the fact people like us flock to these videos is indicative of the fact that white people no longer have moral authority on racial issues.

  61. Twice I posted a limerick here, and twice it disappeared. Here are the two short lines:

    We’d like to drink lattes
    While watching the hottays

    Try to guess the rest.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    @the one they call Desanex

    While once I'd get plain cups o' Joe
    Now, it's Ventes from ragheads named Mo.
    We’d like to drink lattes
    While watching the hottays

    But 'Bucks fired my favorite Ho.

    Was that it? I scraped it out of Unz's recycling bin. Thank goodness for recycling bins.

    Replies: @the one they call Desanex

    , @the one they call Desanex
    @the one they call Desanex

    In Starbucks my dawg and me sat,
    ’Cause dat where de white womens at.
    We’d like to drink lattes
    While watchin’ de hottays,
    But a n----- just cain’t affode dat.

    Replies: @the one they call Desanex, @J.Ross, @Jim Don Bob, @Achmed E. Newman, @Mishra

  62. @Buzz Mohawk
    Notice the little mutt women hanging off to the side, useless employees, some awkwardly smiling, while the solitary white man, representing the very people who made possible the store of plenty on display, stands stoically absorbing the abuse.

    This picture is proof that photography sometimes rises to the level of great painting.

    A grinder could write thousands of words of analysis of this image.

    Replies: @PiltdownMan

    This picture is proof that photography sometimes rises to the level of great painting.

    Photojournalists who specialize in street photography are unusually good at noticing. The same is true of photo editors.

    It is a virtual certainty that both the person who took this picture, as well as the people responsible for its wider dissemination, are fully aware of the nuances and ironies implied in this picture even if (as is likely) they keep quiet about certain aspects for the sake of job security.

    The late John Morris, one of the most eminent of all photo editors in the magazine and newspaper trade, wrote a book about his job titled Get the Picture. It’s a fascinating read.

  63. Many Pubs in London now charge a Pound Sterling to use their toilets. I usually buy a glass of orange juice instead, at least you get something for your money.

    • Replies: @Ivy
    @jim jones


    Many Pubs in London now charge a Pound Sterling to use their toilets. I usually buy a glass of orange juice instead, at least you get something for your money.
     
    Inflation hits everywhere. It used to be "50p for a bit of a wee.".

    Replies: @3g4me

  64. Anonymous [AKA "Ghgffffffff"] says:

    Does this guy with the bullhorn know he could just order ahead using the Starbucks app instead?

    • Replies: @Neuday
    @Anonymous

    I suspect he has no problem with ordering; it's the paying that's the problem.

  65. Ah, cheer up everybody-

    Tomorrow’s America in one picture is going to involve that megaphone being shoved up somebody’s [email protected]@.

    BTW a) that has to be a staged picture
    and b) if Blacks want to boycott Starbucks, I might shop there despite their crappy coffee.

  66. How many readers here or anywhere know that there is a coffee shop in Oakland, Ca. that refuses service to police officers. Actually has signage telling them not to enter. Not a good policy if you ever need the law. They claim that police presence makes their customers uncomfortable. First cop they threw out was a Latino and President of the Hispanic Police Association.

    • Replies: @Olorin
    @Buffalo Joe


    a coffee shop in Oakland, Ca. that refuses service to police officers.
     
    There was a kerfuffle at The Evergreen State College when the taxpayer-supported "Flaming Eggplant" cafe did the same.

    2017 I believe, during the BLM/CPUSA agitation around two black guys who boosted watermelons and beer from a local supermarket (on clear and extensive video), beat on an employee for challenging them, then smashed a solo cop with they skateboards when apprehended...and got ventilated for their trouble. IIRC it was one of the reasons that the college's excellent chief of police Stacey Brown resigned, i.e., an element of a most hostile work environment.
  67. That degree in rhetoric really isn’t paying off the way you thought, is it, brah?

  68. @Twinkie
    @Dan Hayes


    Comes the Revolution, I want to be with them!
     
    I have one family of Korean neighbors nearby, and I know that family is heavily armed. Apparently, the father of my neighbor (who also lives nearby) was a South Korean marine in the Vietnam War, and got the kids, including my neighbor, started on guns early. Two of those siblings are ex-military and one is a police officer.

    My neighborhood, despite being in a Charles Murray super zip code, is bristling with weaponry. The local gun ranges - all of them - are always packed with long wait lists.

    Leftists who think that gun culture is all "red-necky" or "hill-billy" doesn't seem to know about "gun culture 2.0." The parking lot at my local gun shows is a veritable luxury car show. I bet my county has enough guns to outfit a militia bigger than the armies of some countries.

    Replies: @Mis(ter)Anthrope, @Ivy

    My father served in Vietnam and he told me the Korean soldiers were bad ass soldiers.

    On the other hand, he said the South Vietnamese were on average pretty worthless fighters.

  69. It was not preached to the crowd.
    It was not taught by the state.
    No man spoke it aloud
    When the Bugman began to hate.

    • LOL: The Anti-Gnostic
  70. @leopard
    @Buzz Mohawk

    What is with obsession with East Asian.

    Replies: @Colleen Pater, @Percy Gryce

    Well they’re becoming the new jews only more numerous so a bigger problem. The right thought they would be the new whites but that wasn’t what happened with second generation. Which was beside the point in a typically cuck gop way they missed the point entirely which is, we have whites already and theres no such thing as proxy whites, you dont win wars inviting in outside troops especially a war over outside troops. and the last thing we needed was another high cog elite with outside allegiance suing for more diversity spots- no I dont care if they scored higher I care that my universities are run for the benefit of my people – no america is not a free country in that sense its a white country under attack by jews and their mongrel hordes

  71. @black sea
    Perhaps this photo should be captioned: "Zach re-thinks his life choices."

    Replies: @BenKenobi, @Neuday, @RadicalCenter, @Da Wei

    Perhaps this photo should be captioned: “Zach re-thinks his life choices.”

    Once you go black you can’t spell Zack.

  72. @Anonymous
    I haven't been to Philly in several years, so things might have shifted, but while 18th and Spruce is a gentrified area, it is only a few blocks from the "gentrification line" (southwards) and conditions drop very quickly there. I think the realtors have been trying to push it south, with some success, for the past fifteen years or so, but the line is still very real. South of that line are some bad black neighborhoods. Everyone there knows this, even the most SJWish hipsters. Life depends on knowing this, even if you can't discuss it overtly.

    I used to spend considerable amounts of time in coffee shops in other "slightly inside the line" areas of Philadelphia. Extrapolating from my experience, I'd say the baristas had to throw out "bad blacks" probably several times a week. This wasn't optional. (To be fair, the worst bad actor I knew of was not black.) (I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if someone posts a comment and guesses exactly who I'm talking about...)

    I have some sympathy for these black guys in the story too, since I have spent many, many hours working (on my own stuff) at coffee shops, including Starbucks. But I never sit there with no purchase on my table.

    Replies: @Catholic Philly Dad, @Percy Gryce

    The line is further south now. Around Washington Avenue

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Catholic Philly Dad

    Wow, it keeps moving. It occurs to me that this might have been why these two black guys were at Starbucks waiting to do some sort of business deal with a white real estate guy. Were they trying to help move the gentrification line south? In exchange for money?

  73. @Bill P
    Zack doesn't have to put up with that. A lot of workers don't realize that when customers treat you that badly you aren't obliged to stand there and take it. If management doesn't back you up in these situations the company is liable.

    If I were Zack, I'd relax and get a lawyer, then sue over "hostile work environment" if Howard Schultz requires him to endure such abuse as a condition of employment.

    BTW, most black customers I've dealt with since I started working at age 16 have been perfectly reasonable, so there's nothing discriminatory about shaming those who misbehave. If you're working at a business where it's common for any class of people to misbehave, then it's time to get another job and retaliate against your former employer for the benefit of anyone else who might be suckered into working there in the future. There's some wiggle room depending on the pay, but nobody should be forced to debase themselves to earn a living.

    Replies: @Jack D

    Starbucks fired the manager who called the cops – that’s how much they have their employee’s backs. Employees are expendable but the stamp of approval of the Cathedral is priceless.

    The employees who still work there will get the message – never never call the cops on black people, no matter how badly they misbehave. This will seal the fate of all Starbucks in marginal areas. Once a Starbucks becomes known as a place where vibrant folks can hang out without having to even buy anything, that will be the end of it. White hipsters love to proclaim how much they love black people but they avoid real actual ghetto blacks at all costs.

    But, Starbucks was in the position of the guy who had to cut his arm off in order to save his life. “Starbucks is racist” threatened their entire business, not just the few stores they have on the fringes of vibrant neighborhoods and had to be squelched at all costs.

    • Agree: Jim Don Bob
    • Replies: @The preferred nomenclature is...
    @Jack D

    Very good points.

    , @RadicalCenter
    @Jack D

    Starbucks might find millions of people who are otherwise tired of their anti-white multiculti nonsense, would show up with money in hand if they simply said

    "our manager did the right thing calling the police, and we support him. He has been given a day off, with pay, and a promotion. The people who disrupted our store and intimidated and bothered our customers, can contact our lawyers, as we will be barring them from our stores, suing them civilly, and urging their prosecution."

  74. Today’s America in One Picture

    Questions: Is the woman in the lower left corner a Jewish feminist in search of ethereal, intersectional justice for all of the downtrodden in life oppressed by the Northern European White Male Patriarchy? Like the good women of lore, is she standing beside her man as he confronts his oppressors?

    Just wondering. For this to work, all of the elements involved in an accurate “Today’s America in One Picture” meme should be there.

  75. @the one they call Desanex
    Twice I posted a limerick here, and twice it disappeared. Here are the two short lines:

    We’d like to drink lattes
    While watching the hottays

    Try to guess the rest.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @the one they call Desanex

    While once I’d get plain cups o’ Joe
    Now, it’s Ventes from ragheads named Mo.
    We’d like to drink lattes
    While watching the hottays

    But ‘Bucks fired my favorite Ho.

    Was that it? I scraped it out of Unz’s recycling bin. Thank goodness for recycling bins.

    • Replies: @the one they call Desanex
    @Achmed E. Newman

    That’s pretty good. I posted it again as a reply to my comment #63, and it disappeared again. I really don’t think it’s that bad. Anyway, to paraphrase Waylon Jennings, I don’t think Eustace Tilley done it thisaway.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TNpLSaCirj8

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

  76. @the one they call Desanex
    Twice I posted a limerick here, and twice it disappeared. Here are the two short lines:

    We’d like to drink lattes
    While watching the hottays

    Try to guess the rest.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @the one they call Desanex

    In Starbucks my dawg and me sat,
    ’Cause dat where de white womens at.
    We’d like to drink lattes
    While watchin’ de hottays,
    But a n—– just cain’t affode dat.

    • Replies: @the one they call Desanex
    @the one they call Desanex

    So my limerick finally got through. Thanks so much! I feel like Chicago being inducted into the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame 21 years after first becoming eligible—it’s nice to get in, but I’m not sure it’s worth the frustration of being dissed for such a long time.

    Would it help if I admitted that I’m really a black guy? How do you suppose I can simulate a black dialect so well? No white person could do it. And everybody knows black people have an uncanny facility with rhyme. And the smartest ones tend to be comic-book nerds, like me and Ta-Nehisi. I’m tired of being discriminated against. How about some affirmative action for a change up in dis beyotch? (Just kidding [or am I]).

    , @J.Ross
    @the one they call Desanex

    >girlwatching in a Starbucks
    No. One word: Chipotle. Chicks love danger.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

    , @Jim Don Bob
    @the one they call Desanex

    There once was a barista named Zack
    Who said it's not Dindus we lack.
    He called the Poleez,
    Who said Just leave Pleez.
    And for his trouble got only the sack.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

    , @Achmed E. Newman
    @the one they call Desanex

    Aha, TOTCD, that explains the long approval time. This one had to go up to a C-level manager at Unz. Maybe, .... shudder ... Mr. Unz himself had to use his embossing stamp ... he gets real irked about having to break out of an all-hands meeting for this sort of thing. Better put a resume out there, and come up with your best limerick up for the header. It's got to kill at HR.

    Great stuff, but don't we already have a limerick King, or is he burned out and off on a Crusade?

    , @Mishra
    @the one they call Desanex

    Honest, that was the best limerick I've yet read here.
    However, that is a low bar and I hope you'll aim high.

    Replies: @the one they call Desanex

  77. Clearly we need a private/public solution to Starbucks racist insistence on having only paying customers loiter for hours at the tables.

    The solution is to have Starbucks accept EBT. Perhaps also some hiring set-asides for the type of women who work at the DMV. More locations next to liquor stores and check-cashing places. Starbucks is begging for vibrant enrichment.

  78. They don’t make cashiers like they used to:

    (So sorry, I’ve put this up probably twice before, but it cracks me up every time!)

    • Replies: @songbird
    @Achmed E. Newman

    In the movie, he was promoted to manager, after foiling the robbery. I think today, a guy usually gets fired for fighting back, unless he owns the place, or it's family-run.

  79. @Anonymous
    Does this guy with the bullhorn know he could just order ahead using the Starbucks app instead?

    Replies: @Neuday

    I suspect he has no problem with ordering; it’s the paying that’s the problem.

  80. @Anon
    I'm all for the Negroes. Black Coffee Matters.

    Let tons of Negroes enter Starbucks and loiter all they want.

    Starbucks is always lecturing to us about black nobility.

    O-kay!! Have tons of noble negroes loiter all they want at Starbucks without buying anything.

    Turn every Starbucks into Starbuckwheat.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

    The way their cowardly and stupid executives act, I’m right with you. It wouldn’t bother me a bit either, as I am not really into any of the coffee shops.

  81. This is why I go to Wawa. Go to any one in NJ or PA. There you’ll see real diversity. Salaried people, wage-earning people. Blacks, Whites, Asians, Indians, Hispanics, every gender/sex/indentity. And they’re all just getting coffee and going about their business. You won’t see anyone complaining about holiday-themed cups or writing #RaceTogether on them.

    SWPLs talk about diversity. Proles live it and sometimes actually make it work.

    • Agree: Hibernian
    • Replies: @J.Ross
    @njguy73

    Wawa is awesome and their breakfast sandwiches are better than those of larger fast food chains.

    , @Hibernian
    @njguy73

    Spent some time in one in Philly in Oct. (I think) 2015 when I went to see the Pope.

  82. @Achmed E. Newman
    @the one they call Desanex

    While once I'd get plain cups o' Joe
    Now, it's Ventes from ragheads named Mo.
    We’d like to drink lattes
    While watching the hottays

    But 'Bucks fired my favorite Ho.

    Was that it? I scraped it out of Unz's recycling bin. Thank goodness for recycling bins.

    Replies: @the one they call Desanex

    That’s pretty good. I posted it again as a reply to my comment #63, and it disappeared again. I really don’t think it’s that bad. Anyway, to paraphrase Waylon Jennings, I don’t think Eustace Tilley done it thisaway.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    @the one they call Desanex


    I don’t think Eustace Tilley done it thisaway.
     
    Haha!

    You didn't use the term "beaner", did you? Or, maybe our moderator is a meter-freak and caught an extra or missing syllable. ;-}

    You picked one of my favorites. Here's another - it's not one of "Jerry Jeff's train songs" but his Redneck Mother live from the Lone Star State. I miss that outlaw country.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YcBOcwgb4OA

    Replies: @the one they call Desanex

  83. The only solution for Starbucks is classical music. Lots of classical music. Its like a bug repellant for annoying insects.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    @Stick

    Old time country (meaning the good stuff, pre 1985) does a good job too. A McDonalds out in downtown Seattle had it playing over the speakers from the awnings outside the restaurant.

    , @RadicalCenter
    @Stick

    And country / bluegrass. That combo will drive away most of the people whom you don't generally want around.

  84. white boys are so wimpy and ugly

    now wonder white girls crave Men of Colour

    • Replies: @RadicalCenter
    @Tiny Duck

    Stop projecting, tiny dick.

    , @donut
    @Tiny Duck

    Is that your deal Tiny ?

  85. @Jack D
    @Bill P

    Starbucks fired the manager who called the cops - that's how much they have their employee's backs. Employees are expendable but the stamp of approval of the Cathedral is priceless.

    The employees who still work there will get the message - never never call the cops on black people, no matter how badly they misbehave. This will seal the fate of all Starbucks in marginal areas. Once a Starbucks becomes known as a place where vibrant folks can hang out without having to even buy anything, that will be the end of it. White hipsters love to proclaim how much they love black people but they avoid real actual ghetto blacks at all costs.

    But, Starbucks was in the position of the guy who had to cut his arm off in order to save his life. "Starbucks is racist" threatened their entire business, not just the few stores they have on the fringes of vibrant neighborhoods and had to be squelched at all costs.

    Replies: @The preferred nomenclature is..., @RadicalCenter

    Very good points.

  86. I’m sorry, but I’d have to slap that bullhorn across the room. Or at least cram a scone into it. I know that’s a violation of the Voting Rghts Act, but nevertheless, I’d persist.

    • Replies: @RadicalCenter
    @Thirdtwin

    The scone sounds pretty funny, and how can they say that was an assault?

  87. @Twinkie
    @J.Ross


    The megaphone Nubian cannot disrupt your coffee shop if you station the East Asian on the roof.
     
    Yeah, but those were Koreans c. 1992. Hard-headed, hard-nosed, hard-drinking South Korean Marine Corps veterans. Peak Koreans. They are fading away like "the Greatest Generation."

    Replies: @J.Ross, @Percy Gryce

    I remember American Vietnam vets speaking fondly of ROK soldiers as some of the best allies.

    • Replies: @Brutusale
    @Percy Gryce

    Only the ones who never had any experience with the Ozzies.

  88. I can imagine Starbucks eventually joining Denny’s and IHOP as featured locations on World Star Hip-Hop.

  89. @Buzz Mohawk
    They need an East Asian guy to shout "Hey hey hey! This is coffee shop!"

    Replies: @J.Ross, @leopard, @Mr. Anon

    They need an East Asian guy to shout “Hey hey hey! This is coffee shop!”

    This meme was inevitable:

  90. @Anonymous
    I haven't been to Philly in several years, so things might have shifted, but while 18th and Spruce is a gentrified area, it is only a few blocks from the "gentrification line" (southwards) and conditions drop very quickly there. I think the realtors have been trying to push it south, with some success, for the past fifteen years or so, but the line is still very real. South of that line are some bad black neighborhoods. Everyone there knows this, even the most SJWish hipsters. Life depends on knowing this, even if you can't discuss it overtly.

    I used to spend considerable amounts of time in coffee shops in other "slightly inside the line" areas of Philadelphia. Extrapolating from my experience, I'd say the baristas had to throw out "bad blacks" probably several times a week. This wasn't optional. (To be fair, the worst bad actor I knew of was not black.) (I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if someone posts a comment and guesses exactly who I'm talking about...)

    I have some sympathy for these black guys in the story too, since I have spent many, many hours working (on my own stuff) at coffee shops, including Starbucks. But I never sit there with no purchase on my table.

    Replies: @Catholic Philly Dad, @Percy Gryce

    I haven’t been to Philly in several years, so things might have shifted, but while 18th and Spruce is a gentrified area

    That’s very near where the late Digby Baltzell (d. 1996) lived–so I think it’s been liveable for a while.

  91. @leopard
    @Buzz Mohawk

    What is with obsession with East Asian.

    Replies: @Colleen Pater, @Percy Gryce

    Model minority.

  92. @Achmed E. Newman
    They don't make cashiers like they used to:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OXMlL_cr8eo

    (So sorry, I've put this up probably twice before, but it cracks me up every time!)

    Replies: @songbird

    In the movie, he was promoted to manager, after foiling the robbery. I think today, a guy usually gets fired for fighting back, unless he owns the place, or it’s family-run.

  93. Is Philly becoming Baltimore, or is it too soon to tell?

  94. Which Side Are You On?

    The Interfaith protests over Starbucks are up and running.

    • Replies: @Hibernian
    @Clifford Brown

    Depends on your definition of freedom.

  95. Anon[425] • Disclaimer says: • Website

    Gentrification vs Ghetto.

    Solution: We must fight ‘racism’ by sending blacks in downtown Starbucks to coffee shops in suburbs or small towns. Section 8 the black customers.

    Outegration. “Don’t integrate with us yuppies. We are GOOD white people who love blacks. Outegrate with ‘racist’ suburbanites who joined white flight. Because we don’t hate blacks, we returned to the city to live with you blacks who must now be sent to the suburbs to punish the bad whites.”

    It’s one way to prevent Starbucks from becoming Starbuck-E-Cheese.

  96. @Chuck
    Bottom left corner. Hehe.

    Replies: @bored identity, @riches, @Olorin

    The anonymity afforded to commenters allows me to admit that after being directed to look at the bottom left corner, I misread the next word, “Hehe.”

    • Replies: @el topo
    @riches

    Lol

  97. 18th & Spruce doesn’t feel particularly close to the ghetto at all. It didn’t when I lived in Philadelphia ten years ago, anyway; and if anything, Lombard and South Street immediately south of that area, have improved a lot, at least from what I hear. I’m not sure how far south that gentrification reaches though. But Spruce Street near Rittenhouse Square (or throughout most of Center City, for that matter) has been a “nice” area for as long as I can remember. It’s not recently gentrified.

    • Replies: @Hibernian
    @RudyM

    A common phenomenon in big cities is very rich and very poor people within 1/4 mile or less of each other. In Chicago, pre-gentrification, it was called "The Gold Coast and the Ghetto."

    Replies: @Anonymous

  98. This is giving us a playbook to cause a lot of trouble for liberal businesses.

    Locate some entrepreneurial blacks and encourage them to repeat this incident.

    Explain to them the lawsuit potential that they can go loiter in the store and then sue the store for being racist and get paid.

    The store will have to either allow them to keep hanging around indefinitely or kick them out. Either way we win.

    • Replies: @BenKenobi
    @27 year old

    Fourth Generation Memetic Warfare.

    POC are like gravity -- all they need is a little push!!

    , @Olorin
    @27 year old

    I'd like to see somebody at the Inquirer/Philly.com do a little digging on that bit of real estate. The Starbucks in question is in a small low brick building. Wonder who owns the lot, the building, the rights, etc. I presume Starbucks is renting?

    Wouldn't surprise me to find "activists" encouraging this sort of behavior at locations that would be much more lucrative as high-rise gentry hives. Rittenhouse Square area remains tony.

    , @MikeS
    @27 year old

    Yeah, if liberal corporations are going to cave to this low level terrorism, the minorities ought to be encouraged to monkeywrench them without limit.

  99. A place like Starbucks only works in high-trust societies. Of course it started in a lily-white section of Seattle. They rely on the guilt you feel for coming in and sitting on their couches for an hour to buy an incredibly overpriced coffee. Essentially they are renting you a living room and you are paying them out of your own sense of honor and duty.

    Like tipping, this model doesn’t really work when blacks get involved.

    Since we are, at least for now, stuck in a multicultural society I would like all of these guilt/honor/duty based economic arrangements to go away. Restaurants, please just charge the price that the food costs and pay your waitstaff directly. I don’t want them relying on white men’s tips to make a living wage, breaking even on white women, and then serving black people for free. I don’t like it, they don’t like it.

    To be honest now that I mostly cook for myself I find restaurant food pretty disgusting. It has this strange ersatz odor, it’s like the Las Vegas casino version of a European city.

  100. As a talisman to ward off wrong-think, Starbucks always has pictures hanging of happy black and brown ‘indigenous’ people in brightly colored ethnic garb. It is a way of showing the white people who will pay $3 + for a cup of coffee how down they are with the people. Obviously, this guy with the bullhorn was not too impressed but everybody gets the point. The funny thing is that this is true everywhere. In hotels there is a cardboard cutout of the frizzy haired cool black women with a caption bubble saying “hi, we are hip” even if there are no real ones there doing that.

  101. @Chuck
    Bottom left corner. Hehe.

    Replies: @bored identity, @riches, @Olorin

    It was the first thing I noticed about the photo, leading me to think originally that the photo was a shopped meme.

    I especially like the curly forelocks. Can anyone identify this Orthodox SJW individual? My bet would be: paid “organizer.” Some of the other shriekers were wearing identical pocket-raincoats such as those that “organizers” hand out to those who show up for a bit of Situationist Street Theater, along with the other accoutrements of the genre.

    I’ve wondered for 40 years now when blacks would wake up to how they’re used in this manner. The Nation of Islam guys I knew in college were aware…as were some of the early Rainbow Coalition ladies. But some of us may recall how that Wokening went…what with media campaigns designed to get the boy back on the “civil” “rights” “movement” leash.

    http://www.thecrimson.com/article/1984/3/5/jesse-and-the-jews-pbtbhis-is/?page=single

    (By Michael Hirschorn, no less.)

  102. @Anon
    So glad I already boycotted Starbucks since they promised to hire 10,000 refugees.

    Nothing lasts forever. Maybe 10 years from now Starbucks will have the cachet of TJ Maxx.

    Replies: @The Last Real Calvinist, @donut, @AnotherDad

    Hey !

  103. @Anonymous
    Poor Zack.

    Replies: @Boethiuss, @Olorin, @Da Wei

    I dunno. I read his posture and thousand-yard stare as bravely, stoically Taking One For The SJW Team.

    There is no air of bemused mastery, as with the NYPD cop shrieked at by the mestizo female.

    PTSD engineered into white men can come in very handy when you’re trying to defeat them. Replace the ancestral winterpeople legacy of survival and pushback with frozen silence.

    Before you know it, you’ve got 72 bathrooms being the highest mission of any “higher education” institution, and all institutions reduced to Struggle Session Camps in which you lend tattered remnants of families money to rent seats.

  104. Do baristas make $2.99 an hour plus tips?

    Are guys also baristas?

    • Replies: @RadicalCenter
    @Goatweed

    You can save money on tips just by asking the barista (in a place like here in LA especially) "what do you think of Trump voters?"

    Not "what do you think of Trump" but Trump VOTERS.

    Give them the chance to say something gratuitously insulting and rude, then tell them "Thanks, genius, you just saved this Trump voter ___ bucks on tipping your rude ass"

    If the person says something civilized, of course, like "I don't like Trump but I'm sure some of his voters are alright", give him twice the tip you would have and tell him you're a Trump voter who appreciates civil, grown-up people like him. (I've done this)

  105. anonymous[116] • Disclaimer says:

    A literal depiction of my contention that “who wields the bullhorn creates the agenda.”

  106. @Anon
    So glad I already boycotted Starbucks since they promised to hire 10,000 refugees.

    Nothing lasts forever. Maybe 10 years from now Starbucks will have the cachet of TJ Maxx.

    Replies: @The Last Real Calvinist, @donut, @AnotherDad

    So glad I already boycotted Starbucks since they promised to hire 10,000 refugees.

    Outside of the ridiculous prices for a coffeee, i don’t know why any white person with any self-respect would go to Starbucks run by an openly anti-white, anti-national, lefty Jew. Why help him buy the rope to hang us with?

    ~~~

    I’m neither a coffee guy nor an entrepreneur, but if i was i think there’s golden marketing opportunity opening up:

    “White’s Coffee”

    Tagline: “You can have it any way but black!”

    • Replies: @Harry Baldwin
    @AnotherDad

    "White Coffee" has been spray painted on a coffee shop in Denver.


    Someone spray painted “white coffee” on the wall at ink! Coffee in Five Points and broke a window there in what appears to have been retaliation for a sign the business placed out front this week that read, “Happily gentrifying the neighborhood since 2014.”
     
    https://www.denverpost.com/2017/11/23/ink-coffee-five-points-gentrification-controversy/
  107. @Daniel H
    I just get this feeling, that the direction of this poor barista's life was unalterably mapped out when his parents named him Zack.

    Replies: @J.Ross, @AnotherDad

    I just get this feeling, that the direction of this poor barista’s life was unalterably mapped out when his parents named him Zack.

    Maybe so.

    But he could change his life in an instant, if he’d do the honorable thing and grab that punk’s bullhorn with one hand, and when he goes for it, cold cock him with the other.

    Yeah, he’d lose his job, but the rest of his life–his self-respect, his luck with the ladies, the odds of him having a good wife and a passel of fine kids–would immediately improve.

    • Replies: @RadicalCenter
    @AnotherDad

    I wish he'd merely lose his job, but he'd probably go to jail at least briefly -- where the bullhorn animal's brethren (or the Mexicans, who dominate many prisons around the country now) would make his life Hell.

  108. @kimchilover
    This picture has inspired soooooo many amazing memes...but the best that I have seen, by far, is this one:

    :: Extreme Attenborough voice ::

    “Very rarely is the subconscious transformation of a live specimen into a trump voter ever caught on film in the wild, so this is such a rare special treat to behold.”

    PS, I'm super new to Twitter (ss well as this blog) and don't know how to "imbed" or "repost" anything properly...new learning curve (I'm also a terrible speller).

    Replies: @Mishra, @Darwinian Arminian, @RadicalCenter, @Autochthon

    Apart from the obvious visual hook, the best thing about this shot is the timing. It wasn’t more than 48 hours ago that the SJW left thought they’d found their latest smoking gun of white supremacy with a story about a barista who phoned the cops to take away two black guys loitering in a Philadelphia Starbucks. So they immediately jumped into their victory dance — and ended up giving us a picture that will only make the millions who see it think, “What a shame that those kinds of calls aren’t made more often!”

    Thus proving once again that there is nothing the left can possess which the alt-right cannot take away.

  109. Why do I, a “LeftyLawyer”, like this site? Because Steve likes to get the underlying facts correct, even if I don’t always agree with the conclusion from the facts.

    These guys shouldn’t have been arrested – unless management would have done the same thing to similarly dressed white guys who used the bathroom and hung out without paying. HOWEVER, I would bet that 95% of their “problematic” customers are Black (theft, etc.), so the employees might be more on edge with Black customers.

    But, rather than discussing why the employees might have acted improperly with the Black non-patrons, the mainstream press has unchallenged quotes like this (from a Philadelphia City Official):

    “What we know is that black men in this city and nationwide experience disproportionate contact with the police and the criminal justice system,” he wrote. “We also know that this contact often occurs despite the fact that they do not disproportionately engage in crime or the violation of social norms.” http://www.philly.com/philly/news/crime/starbucks-rittenhouse-square-arrests-2-black-men-police-advisory-commission-statement-20180416.html

    I guess if you believe that is true there is no way that you would understand why Starbucks store employees might (improperly) treat black customers different than white. God forbid we should try to solve a problem by having an honest discussion of the causes of the problem.

    • Replies: @AnotherDad
    @LeftLawyer


    These guys shouldn’t have been arrested – unless management would have done the same thing to similarly dressed white guys who used the bathroom and hung out without paying.
     
    Not a lawyer.

    But seems to me there is a pretty clear case for arresting those guys--they did not leave when asked.

    We have public accomodation laws and Starbucks must serve these guys--or anyone else--regardless of race. However, these guys in fact were not asking to be served or to buy anything, and then when asked to leave refused. They then became tresspassers. I don't see any legal issue here at all.

    There's business has to do business with you laws. (In my opinion already a violation of a person's natural right of freedom of association.) But as far as i know there isn't a "business has to accomodate you when you are *not* buying their services" law. (Having such a law would be truly weird.)

    Replies: @LeftLawyer, @RadicalCenter

    , @William Badwhite
    @LeftLawyer


    These guys shouldn’t have been arrested – unless management would have done the same thing to similarly dressed white guys who used the bathroom and hung out without paying.
     
    Similarly dressed white guys almost certainly would have bought something when told the tables were for paying customers, or else they would have left when asked to leave.

    Obviously these guys were just sitting there waiting for somebody, not looking to start trouble at first. But as seems to be the case in so many of these "some black wasn't coddled enough" incidents, they bypassed numerous opportunities to de-escalate and instead chose to be assholes. So they got arrested as they deserved.

    HOWEVER, I would bet that 95% of their “problematic” customers are Black (theft, etc.), so the employees might be more on edge with Black customers.
     
    As is the case for any business dealing with them on a regular basis. People are "on edge" around blacks for good reasons. Its been pointed out many times by other commenters, but a majority non-white US really isn't going to be good for blacks. White people are the only folks that will put up with them.
    , @anon
    @LeftLawyer

    These guys shouldn’t have been arrested

    And they wouldn't have been, if they had just left. The cops weren't going to arrest them at first. They were just going to tell them to either buy something or get out. But the black guys decided that they would rather get arrested than follow the rules, so the police obliged them. I don't see what the problem is. Apparently, young black men just like geting arrested. I don't know why black people like getting arrested, but since they do, arresting them just seems like good service.

    HOWEVER, I would bet that 95% of their “problematic” customers are Black (theft, etc.), so the employees might be more on edge with Black customers.


    Well, probably, but these were actually black NON-customers. That's the whole point. If they had been customers, none of this would have happened.

    I guess if you believe that is true there is no way that you would understand why Starbucks store employees might (improperly) treat black customers different than white.


    Again, this is a case of employees properly treating non-customers differently than any kind of actual customers.

    If you're going to be a lawyer, you need to get these details right.

    , @RadicalCenter
    @LeftLawyer

    We need more lefty lawyers to be like you (sorry, I can't say "we need more lefty lawyers like you" ;)

    Reasonable, good-faith observations on your part, thank you. Stick around.

    , @Da Wei
    @LeftLawyer

    " ... the employees might be more on edge with Black customers."

    Zack look edgy to you?

  110. @Dan Hayes
    I had always believed (actually hoped) that Starbucks would retrench if there ever were a major economic downturn.

    That prediction seemed to hold after the 2008 financial collapse when some of their NYC sites folded.

    Unfortunately their collapse was short-lived and they once again sprouted out all over the place.

    This disappointed me no end, since I have always regarded Starbucks as the pernicious innate personification of uncontrolled Yuppiedom!

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @MB

    This disappointed me no end, since I have always regarded Starbucks as the pernicious innate personification of uncontrolled Yuppiedom!

    Starbucks was a local hole-in-the-wall selling bags of beans to neighbors. Their Brooklynite boss threw together a coffee bar as an experiment, after the ones he saw in Milan when attending a conference there. It was a monster hit that surprised everyone at the store. People lined up around the block.

    So blame the customers for that growth.

    Caribou manages to outsell Starbucks in their home market, the only US market the latter doesn’t dominate. (Shades of The Coca-Cola Kid.) Once they bought up an empty space in the St Paul skyway system, a few steps across the way from an established local one-off, with no seating, the Daily Grind. Boy, did they catch hell for that act of aggression.

    Caribou’s excuse, with some validity, was that their designs were not on the Grind, and they were fine with ceding the lady her loyal walk-by clientele. No, there was a need for a sit-down shop as well, this space was empty and ideal, and if they didn’t take it, Starbucks would.

    Our local Royko, Nick Coleman (whose brother is now mayor), defended the move with the crack, yes, it’s a corporate behemoth, but dammit it’s our corporate behemoth. Keep the Seattleites at bay!

    Ah, localism in America. Buckley defended dealing with Pinochet the same way.

    BTW, the Grind lady reopened in the suburb in which she lived. It must still be going, as I saw someone with their sweatshirt the other day.

    • Replies: @Bill P
    @Reg Cæsar

    Yes, Starbucks was just a little coffee store when Howard Schultz took it over, but he doesn't deserve the credit for introducing espresso. There was already an espresso trend underway in Seattle when he bought the place. I remember as a little kid visiting my friend's dad in downtown Seattle sometime in the early 80s when he ran an espresso machine business that imported machines from Italy. He made us foamed milk, which was kind of neat at the time. I remember the intricate machines fairly well, with their brass pipes and valves and whatnot.

    By the late 80s there were espresso shops all over Seattle, and that was before Starbucks was all that big or well known.

    Schultz's real contribution to Starbucks was investment money from New York that allowed him to buy up the local competition and expand nationally.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

  111. @Twinkie
    @Dan Hayes


    Comes the Revolution, I want to be with them!
     
    I have one family of Korean neighbors nearby, and I know that family is heavily armed. Apparently, the father of my neighbor (who also lives nearby) was a South Korean marine in the Vietnam War, and got the kids, including my neighbor, started on guns early. Two of those siblings are ex-military and one is a police officer.

    My neighborhood, despite being in a Charles Murray super zip code, is bristling with weaponry. The local gun ranges - all of them - are always packed with long wait lists.

    Leftists who think that gun culture is all "red-necky" or "hill-billy" doesn't seem to know about "gun culture 2.0." The parking lot at my local gun shows is a veritable luxury car show. I bet my county has enough guns to outfit a militia bigger than the armies of some countries.

    Replies: @Mis(ter)Anthrope, @Ivy

    Similar neighborhood. In ours, you can go up and down the streets while walking the dog, for example, and have a pretty good sense of who has guns.

    • Replies: @RadicalCenter
    @Ivy

    How?

    Replies: @Ivy

  112. @27 year old
    This is giving us a playbook to cause a lot of trouble for liberal businesses.

    Locate some entrepreneurial blacks and encourage them to repeat this incident.

    Explain to them the lawsuit potential that they can go loiter in the store and then sue the store for being racist and get paid.

    The store will have to either allow them to keep hanging around indefinitely or kick them out. Either way we win.

    Replies: @BenKenobi, @Olorin, @MikeS

    Fourth Generation Memetic Warfare.

    POC are like gravity — all they need is a little push!!

  113. @jim jones
    Many Pubs in London now charge a Pound Sterling to use their toilets. I usually buy a glass of orange juice instead, at least you get something for your money.

    Replies: @Ivy

    Many Pubs in London now charge a Pound Sterling to use their toilets. I usually buy a glass of orange juice instead, at least you get something for your money.

    Inflation hits everywhere. It used to be “50p for a bit of a wee.”.

    • Replies: @3g4me
    @Ivy

    @115 Ivy: "Inflation hits everywhere. It used to be “50p for a bit of a wee.”.

    The older, gently-faded blonde grandmother of the English girl I was nanny to used to say she had to "spend a penny" when she needed the loo. Inflation indeed.

  114. @the one they call Desanex
    @the one they call Desanex

    In Starbucks my dawg and me sat,
    ’Cause dat where de white womens at.
    We’d like to drink lattes
    While watchin’ de hottays,
    But a n----- just cain’t affode dat.

    Replies: @the one they call Desanex, @J.Ross, @Jim Don Bob, @Achmed E. Newman, @Mishra

    So my limerick finally got through. Thanks so much! I feel like Chicago being inducted into the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame 21 years after first becoming eligible—it’s nice to get in, but I’m not sure it’s worth the frustration of being dissed for such a long time.

    Would it help if I admitted that I’m really a black guy? How do you suppose I can simulate a black dialect so well? No white person could do it. And everybody knows black people have an uncanny facility with rhyme. And the smartest ones tend to be comic-book nerds, like me and Ta-Nehisi. I’m tired of being discriminated against. How about some affirmative action for a change up in dis beyotch? (Just kidding [or am I]).

  115. @LeftLawyer
    Why do I, a "LeftyLawyer", like this site? Because Steve likes to get the underlying facts correct, even if I don't always agree with the conclusion from the facts.

    These guys shouldn't have been arrested - unless management would have done the same thing to similarly dressed white guys who used the bathroom and hung out without paying. HOWEVER, I would bet that 95% of their "problematic" customers are Black (theft, etc.), so the employees might be more on edge with Black customers.

    But, rather than discussing why the employees might have acted improperly with the Black non-patrons, the mainstream press has unchallenged quotes like this (from a Philadelphia City Official):

    “What we know is that black men in this city and nationwide experience disproportionate contact with the police and the criminal justice system,” he wrote. “We also know that this contact often occurs despite the fact that they do not disproportionately engage in crime or the violation of social norms.” http://www.philly.com/philly/news/crime/starbucks-rittenhouse-square-arrests-2-black-men-police-advisory-commission-statement-20180416.html
     
    I guess if you believe that is true there is no way that you would understand why Starbucks store employees might (improperly) treat black customers different than white. God forbid we should try to solve a problem by having an honest discussion of the causes of the problem.

    Replies: @AnotherDad, @William Badwhite, @anon, @RadicalCenter, @Da Wei

    These guys shouldn’t have been arrested – unless management would have done the same thing to similarly dressed white guys who used the bathroom and hung out without paying.

    Not a lawyer.

    But seems to me there is a pretty clear case for arresting those guys–they did not leave when asked.

    We have public accomodation laws and Starbucks must serve these guys–or anyone else–regardless of race. However, these guys in fact were not asking to be served or to buy anything, and then when asked to leave refused. They then became tresspassers. I don’t see any legal issue here at all.

    There’s business has to do business with you laws. (In my opinion already a violation of a person’s natural right of freedom of association.) But as far as i know there isn’t a “business has to accomodate you when you are *not* buying their services” law. (Having such a law would be truly weird.)

    • Replies: @LeftLawyer
    @AnotherDad

    No question these guys were in violation of the law. And, no question the arrest was good.

    However, I think most with knowledge of discrimination law (and I'm far from an expert) would say you can't treat people differently in your business based on race alone. So, if you would let a white guy use the bathroom and hang out for a while without buying something, you have to let the black guy do it too. Also, the claim is that they were planning on buying once the meeting began.

    As far as your moral argument - I disagree. I'm fine with freedom of association, and picking your friends, roommates, sexual partners, on whatever criteria you want. But, once you have a business open to the public - you can't discriminate. I think upwards of 90% of the populace would agree with me on that.

    I think one of the interesting things about this story is that the way businesses keep the ghetto-type blacks out is by having prices or food that discourage black patronage. I suppose that trick goes out the window if you have to let people sit and not buy anything.

    , @RadicalCenter
    @AnotherDad

    Agreed.

  116. Howard “Race Together” Schultz really wants to pull the Jew card but is finding it no longer has value. All these activist see is just another really wealthy White man, not a fellow traveler on the highway of victim-hood.

  117. @LeftLawyer
    Why do I, a "LeftyLawyer", like this site? Because Steve likes to get the underlying facts correct, even if I don't always agree with the conclusion from the facts.

    These guys shouldn't have been arrested - unless management would have done the same thing to similarly dressed white guys who used the bathroom and hung out without paying. HOWEVER, I would bet that 95% of their "problematic" customers are Black (theft, etc.), so the employees might be more on edge with Black customers.

    But, rather than discussing why the employees might have acted improperly with the Black non-patrons, the mainstream press has unchallenged quotes like this (from a Philadelphia City Official):

    “What we know is that black men in this city and nationwide experience disproportionate contact with the police and the criminal justice system,” he wrote. “We also know that this contact often occurs despite the fact that they do not disproportionately engage in crime or the violation of social norms.” http://www.philly.com/philly/news/crime/starbucks-rittenhouse-square-arrests-2-black-men-police-advisory-commission-statement-20180416.html
     
    I guess if you believe that is true there is no way that you would understand why Starbucks store employees might (improperly) treat black customers different than white. God forbid we should try to solve a problem by having an honest discussion of the causes of the problem.

    Replies: @AnotherDad, @William Badwhite, @anon, @RadicalCenter, @Da Wei

    These guys shouldn’t have been arrested – unless management would have done the same thing to similarly dressed white guys who used the bathroom and hung out without paying.

    Similarly dressed white guys almost certainly would have bought something when told the tables were for paying customers, or else they would have left when asked to leave.

    Obviously these guys were just sitting there waiting for somebody, not looking to start trouble at first. But as seems to be the case in so many of these “some black wasn’t coddled enough” incidents, they bypassed numerous opportunities to de-escalate and instead chose to be assholes. So they got arrested as they deserved.

    HOWEVER, I would bet that 95% of their “problematic” customers are Black (theft, etc.), so the employees might be more on edge with Black customers.

    As is the case for any business dealing with them on a regular basis. People are “on edge” around blacks for good reasons. Its been pointed out many times by other commenters, but a majority non-white US really isn’t going to be good for blacks. White people are the only folks that will put up with them.

  118. @kimchilover
    This picture has inspired soooooo many amazing memes...but the best that I have seen, by far, is this one:

    :: Extreme Attenborough voice ::

    “Very rarely is the subconscious transformation of a live specimen into a trump voter ever caught on film in the wild, so this is such a rare special treat to behold.”

    PS, I'm super new to Twitter (ss well as this blog) and don't know how to "imbed" or "repost" anything properly...new learning curve (I'm also a terrible speller).

    Replies: @Mishra, @Darwinian Arminian, @RadicalCenter, @Autochthon

    Welcome! We apologize in advance for our general orneriness and affectionate rudeness 😉

    I like kimchi and a lot of other traditional banchan items too.

  119. @black sea
    Perhaps this photo should be captioned: "Zach re-thinks his life choices."

    Replies: @BenKenobi, @Neuday, @RadicalCenter, @Da Wei

    Or hopefully, “The day Zack was red-pilled by being deafeningly yelled at by a rude angry in-your-face borderline-retarded African about something he had nothing to do with.”

  120. @Dan Hayes
    Steve,

    The photo perfectly encapsulates the actual power-structure of modern-day America.

    The Starbucks barista is required to passively endure the diatribes of the bull-horn-wielding melaninized SJW.

    BOTTOM LINE: The SJWs yield power over those unfortunate enough to get in the way of the ever ongoing and expanding political and social revolution.

    Replies: @RadicalCenter

    Right. I was thinking that in a normal society, the guy being deafened at the counter would be fully supported if reached over and knocked the bullhorn and/or the screamer to the ground rather than endure the abuse.

    And successfully sue Starbucks if the employer allowed him to be deafened and abused, let alone refused to let him leave the counter until the animal was removed.

    • Agree: Dan Hayes
  121. @njguy73
    This is why I go to Wawa. Go to any one in NJ or PA. There you'll see real diversity. Salaried people, wage-earning people. Blacks, Whites, Asians, Indians, Hispanics, every gender/sex/indentity. And they're all just getting coffee and going about their business. You won't see anyone complaining about holiday-themed cups or writing #RaceTogether on them.

    SWPLs talk about diversity. Proles live it and sometimes actually make it work.

    Replies: @J.Ross, @Hibernian

    Wawa is awesome and their breakfast sandwiches are better than those of larger fast food chains.

  122. @the one they call Desanex
    @the one they call Desanex

    In Starbucks my dawg and me sat,
    ’Cause dat where de white womens at.
    We’d like to drink lattes
    While watchin’ de hottays,
    But a n----- just cain’t affode dat.

    Replies: @the one they call Desanex, @J.Ross, @Jim Don Bob, @Achmed E. Newman, @Mishra

    >girlwatching in a Starbucks
    No. One word: Chipotle. Chicks love danger.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    @J.Ross


    Chipotle. Chicks love danger.
     
    You're going out with the wild ones I guess - most I know don't enjoy throwing up for 2 or 3 weeks straight.

    I've ordered there recently and I go "I'll take the bowl with the grilled chicken - hold the E. Coli, please." They usually like that.
  123. @Ivy
    @jim jones


    Many Pubs in London now charge a Pound Sterling to use their toilets. I usually buy a glass of orange juice instead, at least you get something for your money.
     
    Inflation hits everywhere. It used to be "50p for a bit of a wee.".

    Replies: @3g4me

    @115 Ivy: “Inflation hits everywhere. It used to be “50p for a bit of a wee.”.

    The older, gently-faded blonde grandmother of the English girl I was nanny to used to say she had to “spend a penny” when she needed the loo. Inflation indeed.

  124. @Jack D
    @Bill P

    Starbucks fired the manager who called the cops - that's how much they have their employee's backs. Employees are expendable but the stamp of approval of the Cathedral is priceless.

    The employees who still work there will get the message - never never call the cops on black people, no matter how badly they misbehave. This will seal the fate of all Starbucks in marginal areas. Once a Starbucks becomes known as a place where vibrant folks can hang out without having to even buy anything, that will be the end of it. White hipsters love to proclaim how much they love black people but they avoid real actual ghetto blacks at all costs.

    But, Starbucks was in the position of the guy who had to cut his arm off in order to save his life. "Starbucks is racist" threatened their entire business, not just the few stores they have on the fringes of vibrant neighborhoods and had to be squelched at all costs.

    Replies: @The preferred nomenclature is..., @RadicalCenter

    Starbucks might find millions of people who are otherwise tired of their anti-white multiculti nonsense, would show up with money in hand if they simply said

    “our manager did the right thing calling the police, and we support him. He has been given a day off, with pay, and a promotion. The people who disrupted our store and intimidated and bothered our customers, can contact our lawyers, as we will be barring them from our stores, suing them civilly, and urging their prosecution.”

  125. @the one they call Desanex
    @Achmed E. Newman

    That’s pretty good. I posted it again as a reply to my comment #63, and it disappeared again. I really don’t think it’s that bad. Anyway, to paraphrase Waylon Jennings, I don’t think Eustace Tilley done it thisaway.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TNpLSaCirj8

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

    I don’t think Eustace Tilley done it thisaway.

    Haha!

    You didn’t use the term “beaner”, did you? Or, maybe our moderator is a meter-freak and caught an extra or missing syllable. ;-}

    You picked one of my favorites. Here’s another – it’s not one of “Jerry Jeff’s train songs” but his Redneck Mother live from the Lone Star State. I miss that outlaw country.

    • Replies: @the one they call Desanex
    @Achmed E. Newman

    My limerick finally got through. Here it is, in case you missed it:
    https://www.unz.com/isteve/todays-america-in-one-picture/#comment-2292120

  126. @Stick
    The only solution for Starbucks is classical music. Lots of classical music. Its like a bug repellant for annoying insects.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @RadicalCenter

    Old time country (meaning the good stuff, pre 1985) does a good job too. A McDonalds out in downtown Seattle had it playing over the speakers from the awnings outside the restaurant.

  127. @AnotherDad
    @LeftLawyer


    These guys shouldn’t have been arrested – unless management would have done the same thing to similarly dressed white guys who used the bathroom and hung out without paying.
     
    Not a lawyer.

    But seems to me there is a pretty clear case for arresting those guys--they did not leave when asked.

    We have public accomodation laws and Starbucks must serve these guys--or anyone else--regardless of race. However, these guys in fact were not asking to be served or to buy anything, and then when asked to leave refused. They then became tresspassers. I don't see any legal issue here at all.

    There's business has to do business with you laws. (In my opinion already a violation of a person's natural right of freedom of association.) But as far as i know there isn't a "business has to accomodate you when you are *not* buying their services" law. (Having such a law would be truly weird.)

    Replies: @LeftLawyer, @RadicalCenter

    No question these guys were in violation of the law. And, no question the arrest was good.

    However, I think most with knowledge of discrimination law (and I’m far from an expert) would say you can’t treat people differently in your business based on race alone. So, if you would let a white guy use the bathroom and hang out for a while without buying something, you have to let the black guy do it too. Also, the claim is that they were planning on buying once the meeting began.

    As far as your moral argument – I disagree. I’m fine with freedom of association, and picking your friends, roommates, sexual partners, on whatever criteria you want. But, once you have a business open to the public – you can’t discriminate. I think upwards of 90% of the populace would agree with me on that.

    I think one of the interesting things about this story is that the way businesses keep the ghetto-type blacks out is by having prices or food that discourage black patronage. I suppose that trick goes out the window if you have to let people sit and not buy anything.

  128. @Stick
    The only solution for Starbucks is classical music. Lots of classical music. Its like a bug repellant for annoying insects.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @RadicalCenter

    And country / bluegrass. That combo will drive away most of the people whom you don’t generally want around.

  129. @Tiny Duck
    white boys are so wimpy and ugly

    now wonder white girls crave Men of Colour

    Replies: @RadicalCenter, @donut

    Stop projecting, tiny dick.

  130. @Thirdtwin
    I'm sorry, but I'd have to slap that bullhorn across the room. Or at least cram a scone into it. I know that's a violation of the Voting Rghts Act, but nevertheless, I'd persist.

    Replies: @RadicalCenter

    The scone sounds pretty funny, and how can they say that was an assault?

  131. @Goatweed
    Do baristas make $2.99 an hour plus tips?

    Are guys also baristas?

    Replies: @RadicalCenter

    You can save money on tips just by asking the barista (in a place like here in LA especially) “what do you think of Trump voters?”

    Not “what do you think of Trump” but Trump VOTERS.

    Give them the chance to say something gratuitously insulting and rude, then tell them “Thanks, genius, you just saved this Trump voter ___ bucks on tipping your rude ass”

    If the person says something civilized, of course, like “I don’t like Trump but I’m sure some of his voters are alright”, give him twice the tip you would have and tell him you’re a Trump voter who appreciates civil, grown-up people like him. (I’ve done this)

  132. anon[186] • Disclaimer says:
    @LeftLawyer
    Why do I, a "LeftyLawyer", like this site? Because Steve likes to get the underlying facts correct, even if I don't always agree with the conclusion from the facts.

    These guys shouldn't have been arrested - unless management would have done the same thing to similarly dressed white guys who used the bathroom and hung out without paying. HOWEVER, I would bet that 95% of their "problematic" customers are Black (theft, etc.), so the employees might be more on edge with Black customers.

    But, rather than discussing why the employees might have acted improperly with the Black non-patrons, the mainstream press has unchallenged quotes like this (from a Philadelphia City Official):

    “What we know is that black men in this city and nationwide experience disproportionate contact with the police and the criminal justice system,” he wrote. “We also know that this contact often occurs despite the fact that they do not disproportionately engage in crime or the violation of social norms.” http://www.philly.com/philly/news/crime/starbucks-rittenhouse-square-arrests-2-black-men-police-advisory-commission-statement-20180416.html
     
    I guess if you believe that is true there is no way that you would understand why Starbucks store employees might (improperly) treat black customers different than white. God forbid we should try to solve a problem by having an honest discussion of the causes of the problem.

    Replies: @AnotherDad, @William Badwhite, @anon, @RadicalCenter, @Da Wei

    These guys shouldn’t have been arrested

    And they wouldn’t have been, if they had just left. The cops weren’t going to arrest them at first. They were just going to tell them to either buy something or get out. But the black guys decided that they would rather get arrested than follow the rules, so the police obliged them. I don’t see what the problem is. Apparently, young black men just like geting arrested. I don’t know why black people like getting arrested, but since they do, arresting them just seems like good service.

    HOWEVER, I would bet that 95% of their “problematic” customers are Black (theft, etc.), so the employees might be more on edge with Black customers.

    Well, probably, but these were actually black NON-customers. That’s the whole point. If they had been customers, none of this would have happened.

    I guess if you believe that is true there is no way that you would understand why Starbucks store employees might (improperly) treat black customers different than white.

    Again, this is a case of employees properly treating non-customers differently than any kind of actual customers.

    If you’re going to be a lawyer, you need to get these details right.

  133. @AnotherDad
    @Daniel H


    I just get this feeling, that the direction of this poor barista’s life was unalterably mapped out when his parents named him Zack.
     
    Maybe so.

    But he could change his life in an instant, if he'd do the honorable thing and grab that punk's bullhorn with one hand, and when he goes for it, cold cock him with the other.

    Yeah, he'd lose his job, but the rest of his life--his self-respect, his luck with the ladies, the odds of him having a good wife and a passel of fine kids--would immediately improve.

    Replies: @RadicalCenter

    I wish he’d merely lose his job, but he’d probably go to jail at least briefly — where the bullhorn animal’s brethren (or the Mexicans, who dominate many prisons around the country now) would make his life Hell.

  134. @LeftLawyer
    Why do I, a "LeftyLawyer", like this site? Because Steve likes to get the underlying facts correct, even if I don't always agree with the conclusion from the facts.

    These guys shouldn't have been arrested - unless management would have done the same thing to similarly dressed white guys who used the bathroom and hung out without paying. HOWEVER, I would bet that 95% of their "problematic" customers are Black (theft, etc.), so the employees might be more on edge with Black customers.

    But, rather than discussing why the employees might have acted improperly with the Black non-patrons, the mainstream press has unchallenged quotes like this (from a Philadelphia City Official):

    “What we know is that black men in this city and nationwide experience disproportionate contact with the police and the criminal justice system,” he wrote. “We also know that this contact often occurs despite the fact that they do not disproportionately engage in crime or the violation of social norms.” http://www.philly.com/philly/news/crime/starbucks-rittenhouse-square-arrests-2-black-men-police-advisory-commission-statement-20180416.html
     
    I guess if you believe that is true there is no way that you would understand why Starbucks store employees might (improperly) treat black customers different than white. God forbid we should try to solve a problem by having an honest discussion of the causes of the problem.

    Replies: @AnotherDad, @William Badwhite, @anon, @RadicalCenter, @Da Wei

    We need more lefty lawyers to be like you (sorry, I can’t say “we need more lefty lawyers like you” 😉

    Reasonable, good-faith observations on your part, thank you. Stick around.

  135. @Ivy
    @Twinkie

    Similar neighborhood. In ours, you can go up and down the streets while walking the dog, for example, and have a pretty good sense of who has guns.

    Replies: @RadicalCenter

    How?

    • Replies: @Ivy
    @RadicalCenter

    Composite approach built up over many observations, many little factors like what the garage looks like (many are open), how the yard is maintained and property secured, vehicles, any stickers, animals, vibe from seeing or talking to residents. Some homes just look like they're buttoned down. YMMV.

  136. @AnotherDad
    @LeftLawyer


    These guys shouldn’t have been arrested – unless management would have done the same thing to similarly dressed white guys who used the bathroom and hung out without paying.
     
    Not a lawyer.

    But seems to me there is a pretty clear case for arresting those guys--they did not leave when asked.

    We have public accomodation laws and Starbucks must serve these guys--or anyone else--regardless of race. However, these guys in fact were not asking to be served or to buy anything, and then when asked to leave refused. They then became tresspassers. I don't see any legal issue here at all.

    There's business has to do business with you laws. (In my opinion already a violation of a person's natural right of freedom of association.) But as far as i know there isn't a "business has to accomodate you when you are *not* buying their services" law. (Having such a law would be truly weird.)

    Replies: @LeftLawyer, @RadicalCenter

    Agreed.

  137. @the one they call Desanex
    @the one they call Desanex

    In Starbucks my dawg and me sat,
    ’Cause dat where de white womens at.
    We’d like to drink lattes
    While watchin’ de hottays,
    But a n----- just cain’t affode dat.

    Replies: @the one they call Desanex, @J.Ross, @Jim Don Bob, @Achmed E. Newman, @Mishra

    There once was a barista named Zack
    Who said it’s not Dindus we lack.
    He called the Poleez,
    Who said Just leave Pleez.
    And for his trouble got only the sack.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    @Jim Don Bob

    A - ... just due to lack of ebonics. We grade limericks on privileged-based sliding scale here.

    (OK, you guys both beat me, probably.)

  138. @Reg Cæsar
    @Dan Hayes


    This disappointed me no end, since I have always regarded Starbucks as the pernicious innate personification of uncontrolled Yuppiedom!

     

    Starbucks was a local hole-in-the-wall selling bags of beans to neighbors. Their Brooklynite boss threw together a coffee bar as an experiment, after the ones he saw in Milan when attending a conference there. It was a monster hit that surprised everyone at the store. People lined up around the block.

    So blame the customers for that growth.

    Caribou manages to outsell Starbucks in their home market, the only US market the latter doesn't dominate. (Shades of The Coca-Cola Kid.) Once they bought up an empty space in the St Paul skyway system, a few steps across the way from an established local one-off, with no seating, the Daily Grind. Boy, did they catch hell for that act of aggression.

    Caribou's excuse, with some validity, was that their designs were not on the Grind, and they were fine with ceding the lady her loyal walk-by clientele. No, there was a need for a sit-down shop as well, this space was empty and ideal, and if they didn't take it, Starbucks would.

    Our local Royko, Nick Coleman (whose brother is now mayor), defended the move with the crack, yes, it's a corporate behemoth, but dammit it's our corporate behemoth. Keep the Seattleites at bay!

    Ah, localism in America. Buckley defended dealing with Pinochet the same way.

    BTW, the Grind lady reopened in the suburb in which she lived. It must still be going, as I saw someone with their sweatshirt the other day.

    Replies: @Bill P

    Yes, Starbucks was just a little coffee store when Howard Schultz took it over, but he doesn’t deserve the credit for introducing espresso. There was already an espresso trend underway in Seattle when he bought the place. I remember as a little kid visiting my friend’s dad in downtown Seattle sometime in the early 80s when he ran an espresso machine business that imported machines from Italy. He made us foamed milk, which was kind of neat at the time. I remember the intricate machines fairly well, with their brass pipes and valves and whatnot.

    By the late 80s there were espresso shops all over Seattle, and that was before Starbucks was all that big or well known.

    Schultz’s real contribution to Starbucks was investment money from New York that allowed him to buy up the local competition and expand nationally.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Bill P


    Schultz’s real contribution to Starbucks was investment money from New York that allowed him to buy up the local competition and expand nationally.
     
    Father-daughter marketing team Al and Laura Ries needled the new name of one of those local competitors. What do the words "Seattle's Best Coffee" bring to mind? Why, Starbucks!

    Starbucks thought so, too. They bought SBC in 2003. But the brand confusion sticks. So Laura has the solution for that:


    So what should Starbucks do about supermarket sales, a huge potential market? First they need to keep Starbucks as a coffee shop brand. Period.


    Second they have the perfect solution for a separate supermarket brand. Starbucks bought a company called Seattle’s Best Coffee (which most people assumed was Starbucks anyway). I would use the Seattle’s Best Coffee brand name as the supermarket brand. It gives a gourmet feel without bastardizing the Starbucks name by putting on retail shelves.

    http://ries.typepad.com/ries_blog/2006/09/wake_up_and_sme.html
     

  139. Anon[425] • Disclaimer says: • Website

    ROTFL. Black feelings are hooooooooly. All this because blacks think they have a right to loiter without buying anything.

    In the Civil Rights Movement, blacks protested to be served in restaurants. Now, they protest for the right to loiter.

    Uncivil Rights Movement. Blacks have a right to be uncivil.

    https://www.amren.com/news/2018/04/starbucks-will-close-8000-us-stores-may-29-for-racial-bias-training/

  140. @Tiny Duck
    white boys are so wimpy and ugly

    now wonder white girls crave Men of Colour

    Replies: @RadicalCenter, @donut

    Is that your deal Tiny ?

  141. @njguy73
    This is why I go to Wawa. Go to any one in NJ or PA. There you'll see real diversity. Salaried people, wage-earning people. Blacks, Whites, Asians, Indians, Hispanics, every gender/sex/indentity. And they're all just getting coffee and going about their business. You won't see anyone complaining about holiday-themed cups or writing #RaceTogether on them.

    SWPLs talk about diversity. Proles live it and sometimes actually make it work.

    Replies: @J.Ross, @Hibernian

    Spent some time in one in Philly in Oct. (I think) 2015 when I went to see the Pope.

  142. @Clifford Brown
    Which Side Are You On?

    The Interfaith protests over Starbucks are up and running.

    https://twitter.com/mcbyrne/status/985983292251037701

    Replies: @Hibernian

    Depends on your definition of freedom.

  143. @RudyM
    18th & Spruce doesn't feel particularly close to the ghetto at all. It didn't when I lived in Philadelphia ten years ago, anyway; and if anything, Lombard and South Street immediately south of that area, have improved a lot, at least from what I hear. I'm not sure how far south that gentrification reaches though. But Spruce Street near Rittenhouse Square (or throughout most of Center City, for that matter) has been a "nice" area for as long as I can remember. It's not recently gentrified.

    Replies: @Hibernian

    A common phenomenon in big cities is very rich and very poor people within 1/4 mile or less of each other. In Chicago, pre-gentrification, it was called “The Gold Coast and the Ghetto.”

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Hibernian

    I think this is very true in Philadelphia. I have been in spots in Philadelphia where you could literally turn around, and you would think that you were in a different part of the world. I don't really know Chicago, which sounds even more extreme, but I wouldn't be surprised if Philadelphia is second to Chicago when it comes to sudden extreme wealth divisions.

  144. @J.Ross
    @Daniel H

    I knew a guy, a great guy, great carpenter, great driver, who left our construction crew to be a full-time Starbucks barista. This would be with a pay cut and after splurging on an almost daily basis on Starbucks products. I think there was a huge cultural factor, certainly there was in the 90s, and perhaps for some people there still is. He wanted to work at Starbucks the way some people want to work at Disney.
    Course I hate Starbucks (and have increasing difficulty locating Caribou), so I never run across him.

    Replies: @Mishra, @Olorin

    I hate Starbucks (and have increasing difficulty locating Caribou),

    Two words:

    Dutch Brothers

  145. @Anon7
    If you’d like to see an alternative view of this incident, take a look at this amazing video by an ex-police officer:

    https://youtube.com/watch?v=UoUv-qSi9yk

    Be sure you watch long enough for these highlights:

    6:15 “Black people are running the Philadelphia police department.”

    8:15 “why do we have such a hard time following instructions?”

    10:30 “the mentality that some black people have that somebody owe you something, we’re victims - nobody owes you nothing”

    10:45 “white liberals are killing black people and we can’t see it with our own eyes... young black people need to understand that you’ve got to follow the rules.”

    Replies: @European-American, @Yak-15, @Olorin

    Interesting clip, thanks. He says that this happened at a Starbucks located in an “80% white” area of Philly.

    The only one I know of downtown that could be called that is the neighborhood where Sabrina Rubin Erdely and her hubby live. Sorta of in the region of Society Hill/Washington Square to Rittenhouse Square. Closer to 90% “white” according to City Data.

  146. @Hhsiii
    @The Last Real Calvinist

    Yeah, my wife loves TJ’s. I should have bought the stock in the ‘80s when we shop there for cheap khakis and jeans in college. It’s gone up about 100x with reinvested dividends.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.theonion.com/t-j-maxx-recreates-in-store-shopping-experience-with-n-1819580303/amp

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.theonion.com/difficult-to-tell-if-t-j-maxx-hit-hard-by-recession-1819570469/amp

    Replies: @The Last Real Calvinist

    Thanks for those links; they’re comedy gold for long-term TJM/Marshalls customers like us.

  147. @Buffalo Joe
    How many readers here or anywhere know that there is a coffee shop in Oakland, Ca. that refuses service to police officers. Actually has signage telling them not to enter. Not a good policy if you ever need the law. They claim that police presence makes their customers uncomfortable. First cop they threw out was a Latino and President of the Hispanic Police Association.

    Replies: @Olorin

    a coffee shop in Oakland, Ca. that refuses service to police officers.

    There was a kerfuffle at The Evergreen State College when the taxpayer-supported “Flaming Eggplant” cafe did the same.

    2017 I believe, during the BLM/CPUSA agitation around two black guys who boosted watermelons and beer from a local supermarket (on clear and extensive video), beat on an employee for challenging them, then smashed a solo cop with they skateboards when apprehended…and got ventilated for their trouble. IIRC it was one of the reasons that the college’s excellent chief of police Stacey Brown resigned, i.e., an element of a most hostile work environment.

  148. @AnotherDad
    @Anon


    So glad I already boycotted Starbucks since they promised to hire 10,000 refugees.
     
    Outside of the ridiculous prices for a coffeee, i don't know why any white person with any self-respect would go to Starbucks run by an openly anti-white, anti-national, lefty Jew. Why help him buy the rope to hang us with?

    ~~~

    I'm neither a coffee guy nor an entrepreneur, but if i was i think there's golden marketing opportunity opening up:

    "White's Coffee"

    Tagline: "You can have it any way but black!"

    Replies: @Harry Baldwin

    “White Coffee” has been spray painted on a coffee shop in Denver.

    Someone spray painted “white coffee” on the wall at ink! Coffee in Five Points and broke a window there in what appears to have been retaliation for a sign the business placed out front this week that read, “Happily gentrifying the neighborhood since 2014.”

    https://www.denverpost.com/2017/11/23/ink-coffee-five-points-gentrification-controversy/

  149. @27 year old
    This is giving us a playbook to cause a lot of trouble for liberal businesses.

    Locate some entrepreneurial blacks and encourage them to repeat this incident.

    Explain to them the lawsuit potential that they can go loiter in the store and then sue the store for being racist and get paid.

    The store will have to either allow them to keep hanging around indefinitely or kick them out. Either way we win.

    Replies: @BenKenobi, @Olorin, @MikeS

    I’d like to see somebody at the Inquirer/Philly.com do a little digging on that bit of real estate. The Starbucks in question is in a small low brick building. Wonder who owns the lot, the building, the rights, etc. I presume Starbucks is renting?

    Wouldn’t surprise me to find “activists” encouraging this sort of behavior at locations that would be much more lucrative as high-rise gentry hives. Rittenhouse Square area remains tony.

  150. @anon
    Imagine wanting to be arrested so badly that you'll choose getting arrested over spending three dollars on a cup of coffee, thereby making yourself a paying customer.

    That's the only explanation for this story that makes any sense. So I don't see what the problem is. They wanted to get arrested, and they got arrested.

    I don't understand why those black guys would want to get arrested, but whatever. It's a little unfair to protest over it afterwards, but I guess that's the way the world works now.

    Replies: @Harry Baldwin

    They’ll probably get a big settlement and free lattes at Starbucks for life.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Harry Baldwin


    They’ll probably get a big settlement and free lattes at Starbucks for life.

     

    Yeah, but what they really want from the kid is Starbucks' health plan.

    They don't look particularly well-insured themselves. Curly Joe on the left doesn't look healthy, either.
  151. Anonymous[326] • Disclaimer says:
    @Catholic Philly Dad
    @Anonymous

    The line is further south now. Around Washington Avenue

    Replies: @Anonymous

    Wow, it keeps moving. It occurs to me that this might have been why these two black guys were at Starbucks waiting to do some sort of business deal with a white real estate guy. Were they trying to help move the gentrification line south? In exchange for money?

  152. Anonymous[326] • Disclaimer says:
    @Hibernian
    @RudyM

    A common phenomenon in big cities is very rich and very poor people within 1/4 mile or less of each other. In Chicago, pre-gentrification, it was called "The Gold Coast and the Ghetto."

    Replies: @Anonymous

    I think this is very true in Philadelphia. I have been in spots in Philadelphia where you could literally turn around, and you would think that you were in a different part of the world. I don’t really know Chicago, which sounds even more extreme, but I wouldn’t be surprised if Philadelphia is second to Chicago when it comes to sudden extreme wealth divisions.

  153. @Mishra
    @kimchilover


    (I’m also a terrible speller)
     
    We can forgive pretty much anything but that. Otherwise, welcome ;)

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    (I’m also a terrible speller)

    We can forgive pretty much anything but that. Otherwise, welcome 😉

    You yourself misspelled “dishrag”.

    • Replies: @Mishra
    @Reg Cæsar

    Uh.....fat fingers!

  154. @black sea
    Perhaps this photo should be captioned: "Zach re-thinks his life choices."

    Replies: @BenKenobi, @Neuday, @RadicalCenter, @Da Wei

    Zack white, but he be learnin’ BLM!

  155. @BenKenobi
    @black sea

    Dude's name is written on the smock and you still spelled it wrong.

    Replies: @Mishra, @black sea, @Reg Cæsar

    Dude’s name is written on the smock and you still spelled it wrong.

    Or maybe Starbucks did. Teenage Dav Pilkey’s fast-food nametag was misspelled. He ran with it, and now he’s famous. (If you’re prepubescent.)

  156. Commenter Ghgffffffff writes:

    He’s still commenting? I thought we took care of him back in 2011!

  157. @Harry Baldwin
    @anon

    They'll probably get a big settlement and free lattes at Starbucks for life.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    They’ll probably get a big settlement and free lattes at Starbucks for life.

    Yeah, but what they really want from the kid is Starbucks’ health plan.

    They don’t look particularly well-insured themselves. Curly Joe on the left doesn’t look healthy, either.

  158. @Dan Hayes
    I had always believed (actually hoped) that Starbucks would retrench if there ever were a major economic downturn.

    That prediction seemed to hold after the 2008 financial collapse when some of their NYC sites folded.

    Unfortunately their collapse was short-lived and they once again sprouted out all over the place.

    This disappointed me no end, since I have always regarded Starbucks as the pernicious innate personification of uncontrolled Yuppiedom!

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @MB

    Up here in the land of the Great Northwest, they are know by some at least, as Charbucks.
    There is better tasting coffee that isn’t burnt/overpriced by design.

  159. @Anonymous
    Poor Zack.

    Replies: @Boethiuss, @Olorin, @Da Wei

    Jack good at his job interview. Ax Jack anythin.

  160. Anonymous[326] • Disclaimer says:

    I don’t know if my observations here are all that original since the photo is being posted all over the place (in some circles). But it strikes me that this is simply excellent photojournalism. I would not be the least bit surprised if people know this photo fifty years in the future.

    After viewing this for maybe eight to ten minutes, one of the things that really stands out is the way that the women on each side stand in relation to the two focal figures. The black bullhorn guy has two needy fawning women on either side of him. They frame him. By contrast, the women on “Zack’s” side of the line – and there is most definitely a Starbucks corporate line here – extending diagonally up to the left – are all clustered together. They are huddling with each other. They are distant from Zack. They are leaving him to deal with the problem.

    This is a really good photo. One or more persons who promulgated this know what they are doing.

    • Replies: @anonymous
    @Anonymous

    Nah. After 10 years all anyone thinks is "why did they dress so bad".

    Megaphone dude will be seen as a Down's syndrome type guy, if anyone looks at this picture.

    Starbucks employee will be seen as "granddad putting up with nonsense because he was a good guy"/

  161. @LeftLawyer
    Why do I, a "LeftyLawyer", like this site? Because Steve likes to get the underlying facts correct, even if I don't always agree with the conclusion from the facts.

    These guys shouldn't have been arrested - unless management would have done the same thing to similarly dressed white guys who used the bathroom and hung out without paying. HOWEVER, I would bet that 95% of their "problematic" customers are Black (theft, etc.), so the employees might be more on edge with Black customers.

    But, rather than discussing why the employees might have acted improperly with the Black non-patrons, the mainstream press has unchallenged quotes like this (from a Philadelphia City Official):

    “What we know is that black men in this city and nationwide experience disproportionate contact with the police and the criminal justice system,” he wrote. “We also know that this contact often occurs despite the fact that they do not disproportionately engage in crime or the violation of social norms.” http://www.philly.com/philly/news/crime/starbucks-rittenhouse-square-arrests-2-black-men-police-advisory-commission-statement-20180416.html
     
    I guess if you believe that is true there is no way that you would understand why Starbucks store employees might (improperly) treat black customers different than white. God forbid we should try to solve a problem by having an honest discussion of the causes of the problem.

    Replies: @AnotherDad, @William Badwhite, @anon, @RadicalCenter, @Da Wei

    ” … the employees might be more on edge with Black customers.”

    Zack look edgy to you?

  162. anonymous[402] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous
    I don't know if my observations here are all that original since the photo is being posted all over the place (in some circles). But it strikes me that this is simply excellent photojournalism. I would not be the least bit surprised if people know this photo fifty years in the future.

    After viewing this for maybe eight to ten minutes, one of the things that really stands out is the way that the women on each side stand in relation to the two focal figures. The black bullhorn guy has two needy fawning women on either side of him. They frame him. By contrast, the women on "Zack's" side of the line - and there is most definitely a Starbucks corporate line here - extending diagonally up to the left - are all clustered together. They are huddling with each other. They are distant from Zack. They are leaving him to deal with the problem.

    This is a really good photo. One or more persons who promulgated this know what they are doing.

    Replies: @anonymous

    Nah. After 10 years all anyone thinks is “why did they dress so bad”.

    Megaphone dude will be seen as a Down’s syndrome type guy, if anyone looks at this picture.

    Starbucks employee will be seen as “granddad putting up with nonsense because he was a good guy”/

  163. @RadicalCenter
    @Ivy

    How?

    Replies: @Ivy

    Composite approach built up over many observations, many little factors like what the garage looks like (many are open), how the yard is maintained and property secured, vehicles, any stickers, animals, vibe from seeing or talking to residents. Some homes just look like they’re buttoned down. YMMV.

  164. Starbucks says it will do something about ‘unconscious bias’ but it seems to me the problem is Conscious Bad Behavior by blacks.

    Well, since SB wants to push PC, how about a rule of Never Call Cops for Problem with Blacks?

  165. @kimchilover
    This picture has inspired soooooo many amazing memes...but the best that I have seen, by far, is this one:

    :: Extreme Attenborough voice ::

    “Very rarely is the subconscious transformation of a live specimen into a trump voter ever caught on film in the wild, so this is such a rare special treat to behold.”

    PS, I'm super new to Twitter (ss well as this blog) and don't know how to "imbed" or "repost" anything properly...new learning curve (I'm also a terrible speller).

    Replies: @Mishra, @Darwinian Arminian, @RadicalCenter, @Autochthon

    I shan’t be so cromulent as is my wont: ‘Round here, embedding and reposting is less important than bedding, riposting, and – above all! – embiggening.

  166. @riches
    @Chuck

    The anonymity afforded to commenters allows me to admit that after being directed to look at the bottom left corner, I misread the next word, "Hehe."

    Replies: @el topo

    Lol

  167. @Achmed E. Newman
    @the one they call Desanex


    I don’t think Eustace Tilley done it thisaway.
     
    Haha!

    You didn't use the term "beaner", did you? Or, maybe our moderator is a meter-freak and caught an extra or missing syllable. ;-}

    You picked one of my favorites. Here's another - it's not one of "Jerry Jeff's train songs" but his Redneck Mother live from the Lone Star State. I miss that outlaw country.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YcBOcwgb4OA

    Replies: @the one they call Desanex

    My limerick finally got through. Here it is, in case you missed it:
    https://www.unz.com/isteve/todays-america-in-one-picture/#comment-2292120

  168. @27 year old
    This is giving us a playbook to cause a lot of trouble for liberal businesses.

    Locate some entrepreneurial blacks and encourage them to repeat this incident.

    Explain to them the lawsuit potential that they can go loiter in the store and then sue the store for being racist and get paid.

    The store will have to either allow them to keep hanging around indefinitely or kick them out. Either way we win.

    Replies: @BenKenobi, @Olorin, @MikeS

    Yeah, if liberal corporations are going to cave to this low level terrorism, the minorities ought to be encouraged to monkeywrench them without limit.

  169. Steve:
    Thought you might enjoy this tweet posted by The Black Star Project, a community activist group based in the Bronzeville neighborhood of Chicago and dedicated to erasing the racial academic achievement gap. Apparently, the pipeline just keeps getting bigger.

  170. @Anon
    Race Together


    LOL

    "How do you want your coffee?"

    "Black and LOUD"

    Replies: @Henry's Cat

    Flatten whitey.

  171. @Percy Gryce
    @Twinkie

    I remember American Vietnam vets speaking fondly of ROK soldiers as some of the best allies.

    Replies: @Brutusale

    Only the ones who never had any experience with the Ozzies.

  172. @J.Ross
    @the one they call Desanex

    >girlwatching in a Starbucks
    No. One word: Chipotle. Chicks love danger.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

    Chipotle. Chicks love danger.

    You’re going out with the wild ones I guess – most I know don’t enjoy throwing up for 2 or 3 weeks straight.

    I’ve ordered there recently and I go “I’ll take the bowl with the grilled chicken – hold the E. Coli, please.” They usually like that.

  173. @Jim Don Bob
    @the one they call Desanex

    There once was a barista named Zack
    Who said it's not Dindus we lack.
    He called the Poleez,
    Who said Just leave Pleez.
    And for his trouble got only the sack.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

    A – … just due to lack of ebonics. We grade limericks on privileged-based sliding scale here.

    (OK, you guys both beat me, probably.)

  174. @the one they call Desanex
    @the one they call Desanex

    In Starbucks my dawg and me sat,
    ’Cause dat where de white womens at.
    We’d like to drink lattes
    While watchin’ de hottays,
    But a n----- just cain’t affode dat.

    Replies: @the one they call Desanex, @J.Ross, @Jim Don Bob, @Achmed E. Newman, @Mishra

    Aha, TOTCD, that explains the long approval time. This one had to go up to a C-level manager at Unz. Maybe, …. shudder … Mr. Unz himself had to use his embossing stamp … he gets real irked about having to break out of an all-hands meeting for this sort of thing. Better put a resume out there, and come up with your best limerick up for the header. It’s got to kill at HR.

    Great stuff, but don’t we already have a limerick King, or is he burned out and off on a Crusade?

  175. @Reg Cæsar
    @Mishra



    (I’m also a terrible speller)

     

    We can forgive pretty much anything but that. Otherwise, welcome ;)

     

    You yourself misspelled "dishrag".

    Replies: @Mishra

    Uh…..fat fingers!

  176. @the one they call Desanex
    @the one they call Desanex

    In Starbucks my dawg and me sat,
    ’Cause dat where de white womens at.
    We’d like to drink lattes
    While watchin’ de hottays,
    But a n----- just cain’t affode dat.

    Replies: @the one they call Desanex, @J.Ross, @Jim Don Bob, @Achmed E. Newman, @Mishra

    Honest, that was the best limerick I’ve yet read here.
    However, that is a low bar and I hope you’ll aim high.

    • Replies: @the one they call Desanex
    @Mishra

    Thanks, pal. They can’t all be gems, but I don’t post them unless I think they’re pretty good. A good limerick should be dirty or transgressive in some way, and that sometimes makes it hard to get them past the moderator at unz. Here’s one I’m proud of:
    https://www.unz.com/isteve/ideas-vs-identity/#comment-2167265

  177. @Mishra
    @the one they call Desanex

    Honest, that was the best limerick I've yet read here.
    However, that is a low bar and I hope you'll aim high.

    Replies: @the one they call Desanex

    Thanks, pal. They can’t all be gems, but I don’t post them unless I think they’re pretty good. A good limerick should be dirty or transgressive in some way, and that sometimes makes it hard to get them past the moderator at unz. Here’s one I’m proud of:
    https://www.unz.com/isteve/ideas-vs-identity/#comment-2167265

  178. @Bill P
    @Reg Cæsar

    Yes, Starbucks was just a little coffee store when Howard Schultz took it over, but he doesn't deserve the credit for introducing espresso. There was already an espresso trend underway in Seattle when he bought the place. I remember as a little kid visiting my friend's dad in downtown Seattle sometime in the early 80s when he ran an espresso machine business that imported machines from Italy. He made us foamed milk, which was kind of neat at the time. I remember the intricate machines fairly well, with their brass pipes and valves and whatnot.

    By the late 80s there were espresso shops all over Seattle, and that was before Starbucks was all that big or well known.

    Schultz's real contribution to Starbucks was investment money from New York that allowed him to buy up the local competition and expand nationally.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    Schultz’s real contribution to Starbucks was investment money from New York that allowed him to buy up the local competition and expand nationally.

    Father-daughter marketing team Al and Laura Ries needled the new name of one of those local competitors. What do the words “Seattle’s Best Coffee” bring to mind? Why, Starbucks!

    Starbucks thought so, too. They bought SBC in 2003. But the brand confusion sticks. So Laura has the solution for that:

    So what should Starbucks do about supermarket sales, a huge potential market? First they need to keep Starbucks as a coffee shop brand. Period.

    Second they have the perfect solution for a separate supermarket brand. Starbucks bought a company called Seattle’s Best Coffee (which most people assumed was Starbucks anyway). I would use the Seattle’s Best Coffee brand name as the supermarket brand. It gives a gourmet feel without bastardizing the Starbucks name by putting on retail shelves.

    http://ries.typepad.com/ries_blog/2006/09/wake_up_and_sme.html

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