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Woke Twitter’s leading avenger, Titania McGrath, is no more.

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  1. She was the best damn O.D. we ever had.

  2. I blame Duff Man.

    • Agree: ic1000
  3. Hakan Rotwrt(?), the chap who advises us all to pray to the Yellowstone magma chamber, was suspended a couple of days ago. Sad!

    • Replies: @xmmrm
    Deactivated. Probably just taking a break.
    , @Anonymous
    Was he actually suspended or did he just deactivate?
  4. Poetry Corner

    In Memoriam

    Titania MacGrath

    So. Farewell
    Then.
    Titania
    Macgrath.

    Hero and
    SJW
    Activist.

    Purged, you were
    By hetero
    White male pig
    Admins.

    Steve says that
    Your posts
    Were satire.

    The Woke though
    Know that the man
    Got you.
    Obviously.

    E.J. Thribb (17½)

    • Replies: @dearieme
    Welcome back into my life, Thribbers! I've not seen you since Private Eye reneged on their deal that my wife should receive the magazine free for the rest of her life. The bastards!
    , @JosieBlue2010
    Hysterical how her followers never caught on to the satire. McGrath, even at a cursory reading of her tweets, practically comes right out and says it's a fake, troll account. But still her "woke" accolites fawn over her proclamations. The more outrageous, the more they actually believe it. And we wonder how the likes of Charles Manson ever got as far as he did. I could swear McGrath is actually a parody by Baron Sacha Cohen
  5. @Tyrion 2
    Poetry Corner

    In Memoriam

    Titania MacGrath

    So. Farewell
    Then.
    Titania
    Macgrath.

    Hero and
    SJW
    Activist.

    Purged, you were
    By hetero
    White male pig
    Admins.

    Steve says that
    Your posts
    Were satire.

    The Woke though
    Know that the man
    Got you.
    Obviously.

    E.J. Thribb (17½)

    Welcome back into my life, Thribbers! I’ve not seen you since Private Eye reneged on their deal that my wife should receive the magazine free for the rest of her life. The bastards!

  6. • Replies: @Anonymous
    Yes, no one seems to know that pot can cause brain damage. In fact, many people these days think pot is some kind of miracle cure-all for just about everything.
    , @AnotherDad
    This is news?
    , @Almost Missouri
    And makes you gay.

    https://twitter.com/WesternIdentity/status/1063451720129413120

    BTW, was this not always obvious? All the habitual pot smokers I know are kinda dumb. Which is hardly surprising since to be high is to be kinda dumb. So if you chemically alter yourself to be kinda dumb a lot, you'll end up kinda dumb. The only people who cannot foresee this are ... kinda dumb.

    , @Anonym
    I am not sure how this graph works exactly. 1, 2,3+ diagnoses.

    https://www.pnas.org/highwire/filestream/610127/field_highwire_adjunct_files/0/pnas.201206820SI.pdf

    However, it seems like the most it docks you as an 18+ user is a couple IQ points, likely less I think.
    , @Chrisnonymous
    What about edibles?
    , @GermanReader2
    The stepbrother of one of my school friends was a habitual drug user (I think cocaine or heroine). According to my friend the doctors told his stepmother, that the drugs had permanently weakened the tissue in his brain (he said something about small holes in his brain tissue)
    , @Corn
    It’s a sign of our lax and dissolute times this is even a revelation.

    I remember some of the stoner kids in high school. Nice enough people but always a paragraph or so behind when you were trying to talk to them.
    , @Anonymammal
    >https://www.forbes.com/sites/travisbradberry/2015/02/10/new-study-shows-smoking-pot-permanently-lowers-iq/#513cdfa62f5b

    Not true, not true at all in all cases. Take me for example. I tested as a child to have an IQ of 157. A fellow-student at college bragged how he got 2 papers in mathematics published written behind dope. I eventually found out how helpful pot is to clear up one's thoughts. While writing my Ph.D. dissertation I sometimes/often lost the trail of the thought I was explaining. When I realized the trail was lost, smoking a joint suppressed short-term thinking and allowed one to think cosmically, so to speak. The starting point of the train of thought reappeared with clarity and one could return to writing at the point where one had gotten lost. To be sure, it took some 15 or 20 minutes before one's typing skills returned. But still and all. Couldn't have done it without weed, it being the Ph.D. diss. and 5 papers published in refereed journals and several more making the rounds of refereed journals. I recommend smoking pot in that context and see for yourself.
    , @L Woods
    Lower IQ can be a boon past a certain point. I won’t knock it.
    , @J.Ross
    Who did not already know* this?
    *I mean, AC, in the way that knowledge used to work (and probably should still), and not to a scientific standard of knowledge.
    , @TheJester
    One of our neighbor's daughters was a heroin+ addict in high school. She prostituted herself to fund her habits. After graduation, she became a stripper. Along the way, she birthed two children without benefit-of-husbands. With her parent's help, the daughter finally cleaned up her act and miraculously earned a university degree.

    We had occasional contact with the daughter as she came and went over the years. One day she was trying to fit a mattress into the back of a small SUV. It was clear to the naked eye that it wouldn't fit ... way too big. It was like trying to fit a square peg into a round hole. Nonetheless, the daughter tried and tried. She became frustrated and emotional. "I know it will fit; it has to fit!"

    Her mother sauntered outside as she sauntered in. "I think the drugs permanently affected her mind." You think?

    It will become a more interesting world as drugs are progressively legalized and popularized ... society's seal of approval.
    , @Joe Bloggs
    "Smoking pot permanently lowers IQ"

    Why do you suppose they call it "dope"? Have you ever heard anyone call it "smart"?
    , @anon
    supposedly pot smokers get a green sludge on their brain
  7. Woke white women of the world wide web, unite! You have nothing to lose but your diamond chains. By silencing sister Titania, Twitter is silencing all right-thinking women (especially the ones with penises).

  8. Flawed as Andrew Torba and Gab may be, I respect him for his efforts to create a real alternative to Twitter. But I don’t think there is much of a future in Gab any more than Google+ turned out to become a real rival of Facebook.

    Any real alternative to Twitter can’t be a “all legal speech is allowed” zone. There has to be a fair amount of moderation in order to keep any site from becoming as toxic and echo chambery as Gab has become. I think the key is transparency. All moderation actions should be public, with the offending post preserved, the reason for removing it (or for banning the user) explained, and the moderator who removed the post (or banned the user) publicly identified, if not by their real name then at least by a permanent pseudonym that allows people to keep track of whom, what, when and why the moderator is moderating.

    Twitter certainly doesn’t have this type of transparency. I think Gab has more transparency, but I cannot overstress my belief that the downsides of a free-for-all posting policy outweigh the upsides. “Just mute or block them” is not an adequate solution to all toxic users.

    Perhaps Gab is the antithesis to Twitter’s thesis. If I knew anything about programming I might work on my ideal site myself.

    • Replies: @Almost Missouri
    Agree about Torba.

    Like your transparency proposals.

    But I question why "'just mute or block them' is not an adequate solution to all toxic users"?

    I suspect that that there is nothing technical that keeps Twitter in charge of the market other than its monopoly due to network effect.

    A transparent Twitter would be a better Twitter, but since Twitter has a pretty unbreakable monopoly, it has no reason to improve.

    So absent a successful public square lawsuit against Twitter, we're pretty much stuck with it as another SJW monopoly.
    , @Lurker
    Surely Twitter does allow free-for-all posting? I mean as long as you're supportive of a general globo homo world view. Anything else would wrong, obviously.
    , @Dave Pinsen
    I’m not sure Gab’s problem is its lack of moderation, though it’s hard to imagine a counterfactual. Twitter has a first mover advantage, which gave it the famous users, and it has ~50x as many users overall, and that’s its current moat. Gab mostly has right wingers who’ve been banned from Twitter.

    When Twitter bans a Titania McGrath, it shrinks its moat a tiny bit; if she went to Gab, she’s draw a few users with her (if Trump ever went to Gab, he’d expand Gab’s user base by 10x).
    , @The Z Blog
    This is dumb.

    Torba is a hero. The guy has skin in the game and he is fighting an important fight. *You* are not doing anything.

    That said, no alternative to the approved platforms will be allowed, so Torba is fighting a losing battle. The coordination of Big Tech is now being followed by the coordinated efforts of Big Bank. That means you can put up a web site, but you can't run a business on-line, unless the people in charge approve.

    In the very near future, other services will get in on the act of de-platforming people. The big grocery chains will ban Richard Spencer from their stores. Credit card issuers will refuse to issue cards to blasphemers and heretics.
    , @SimpleSong
    Part of me thinks that if Torba can hold out for a while he may end up OK. He needs to improve the site from both a tech and culture standpoint, certainly. But here's how I see the future of Twitter playing out in a macro way:

    Twitter made no profit for a very, very long time, and is now making a very small profit. In terms of profit and revenue picture it is about four times as large as...wait for it.... Cheyenne Regional Medical Center in Cheyenne Wyoming. Well, slightly less than four times, actually. But hopefully that gives you a sense of relative scale.

    These companies are not as big and powerful as you think they are. They exist because they we are in a historical period with extremely low interest rates and very few opportunities for investment. Thus, any company that can spin a plausible growth story gets an absurd valuation.

    Twitter will eventually stop growing (possibly it already has.) Interest rates will eventually go back up (they already are.) When both of these things happen the stock starts looking like a normal-ish stock and becomes much less valuable than it is now. When this happens you can no longer compensate employees with stock options. When this happens you lose a lot of your technical talent. When this happens the user experience starts to degrade, and when this happens users go elsewhere. In my opinion twitter is not much of a natural monopoly, doesn't really have strong network effects, and the market can absolutely support several niche twitters.

    Torba can't tap into dumb money by spinning a growth story, this is his big disadvantage. But as soon as that dumb money disappears he ends up on a level playing field.
    , @Forbes
    Maybe, just maybe, social media (Twitter, et al.) is a waste of time--or worse.

    In other words, no good outcome can result from attempting to devise a perfect world of transparent moderation, including some form of appeal and arbitration to satisfy users--as if the quest to count the number of angels on the head of a pin can be finally and definitely determined.

    It's an impossible task to satisfy all people at all times. Markets work with choices.
    , @Bill
    Yes. Censorship is not wrong. It's censorship of the truth which is wrong.
  9. President Cuck will spend $750Bil. on the Pentagon, but where is that dang wall? What a disappointment, and how humorous the fools who still think he’s “salvation”

    • Replies: @tyrone
    Glad to see that you anxiously await the Wall .
    , @Prester John
    Once in a great while the mini-mallard gets it right---well, sort of anyway.
    , @Pericles

    where is that dang wall?

     

    Whoa now, what's happening to this guy? Is he crossing the aisle to instead become 'Tiny Cuck'?

    The road to sex change is shorter that way, I've been told. Vaya con el diablo.
    , @TomSchmidt
    Dead on, TD. What benefit do the deplorables get from the military budget other than the chance to liquefy their brains and to try out the latest prosthetics?
    , @TWS
    Go Cuck elsewhere, we already had the real genuine tiny duck. You're a terrible larper. The real tiny duck would have added details about the US needing the brown men to rescue white women from the scourge of tiny penises and how all white women crave the brown Latino Johnson.

    He would have pointed out America would be majority Brown in a few years and white men would never vote or matter again. The real tiny duck would have mentioned, in a diatribe with poor grammar, how the very smart brothas, had an excellent article about the wall, white man hate and fear, and how this linked to gender-queer intersectionality.

    Up your troll game or go home. Your larping is weak sauce. Be funny, provocative, or play the role properly. Note, this is not a response to your comment, this is a response to your sub par trolling.
    , @Malcolm X-Lax
    I hate to encourage you but

    Salvation = Only game in town

    Plus, I need to post more frequently (what is it, ten posts per month?) to be able to call you a troll.

    , @TWM
    First time that I've agreed with Tiny.
    , @Forbes
    This is TD with a period (".")--as in "Tiny Duck."--the the real thing.

    A different troll.
    , @Buffalo Joe
    TD, I remember visiting the Wailing Wall in Jerusalem when I visited the "Holy Lands". If we can get the Jewish community on board by telling them that "The Wall" is a prayer wall, construction will start within a week. No need for an environmental impact study.
  10. OT: Bernard Henri-Levy’s website calls the Yellow Vests “white trash”. Run it through the translator of your choice:

    Gilets Jaunes : Bienvenue dans la France White Trash !
    https://laregledujeu.org/2018/12/04/34628/gilets-jaunes-bienvenue-dans-la-france-white-trash/

    • Replies: @Toño Bungay
    Wrong link? Don't see BHL there.
    , @El Dato
    So is that website BHL's unz.com?

    I agree with the author that demanding military takeover and beating up gays is less than appealing.

    Not to mention burning down high schools; I don't know whether deluded kids joining in to protest against "education reforms" and hoping for sweet times on state money or "black block" left-wreckers did that but it's completely retarded.

    I don't agree with the author that left-wing cornucopia politics (until change to the Elysium universe has been locked in for good, presumably) is an acceptable course.

    The author also thinks that the change in fuel price doesn't really matter, is peanuts and that we will be driving electric cars tomorrow in any case, the era of gas-fueled cars is over.


    Et quand bien même Emmanuel Macron serait décidé à agir, il pourrait mettre tous les efforts possibles dans cette entreprise, le combat serait tout de même perdu d’avance : l’ère du pétrole est révolue.
     
    I sense there will be a large amount of disappointment about that. Economic feasibility says no.

    Then joyous red troll Daniel Cohn Bendit is cited as claiming that in '68 people were actually fighting against a general in power, not demanding that a general be put in power. I laugh. Back in '68 Daniel Cohn Bendit was fighting for Daniel Cohn Bendit.

    Did I mention that being "pro-russian" is considered a negative quality? Of course.

  11. First Godfrey and now Titania! Dear God

    • Replies: @Barnard
    Several people have speculated the same person was behind both Godfrey and Titania. If true, I would assume he/she/they will be back with another account soon.
  12. Another satire account, Bellingdog, which does for the Macronista Menace what Bellingcat does for the Putin Menace (and only existed for ten days) is gone, though back in new guise.

    There are a fair few satire accounts ripping into the Syria Narrative by applying it to France. This one’s a parody of that woke 7 year old with good English skills (Bana Alebed?) who kept asking when the West would bomb Damascus and save her.

    AndrewR – what’s needed is some kind of aggregator which links to both Gab and Twitter, allows people to see a Gab reply to a tweet. Have to think about how you’d tweet a reply to Gab.

    • Replies: @Lugash
    https://twitter.com/abedoux/status/1072233090569908224
    , @Chrisnonymous

    – what’s needed is some kind of aggregator which links to both Gab and Twitter, allows people to see a Gab reply to a tweet. Have to think about how you’d tweet a reply to Gab.
     
    See my exchange with Dave Pinsen above. We've got the same idea, but Dave seems to say it's aleeady half-implemented in Gab.
  13. @Tiny Duck.
    President Cuck will spend $750Bil. on the Pentagon, but where is that dang wall? What a disappointment, and how humorous the fools who still think he's "salvation"

    Glad to see that you anxiously await the Wall .

  14. That’s a huge drag. He or she was often amazingly funny. And despite being intentionally overdone and moronic, the poetry was jarringly competent.

    • Agree: Almost Missouri
  15. @AndrewR
    Flawed as Andrew Torba and Gab may be, I respect him for his efforts to create a real alternative to Twitter. But I don't think there is much of a future in Gab any more than Google+ turned out to become a real rival of Facebook.

    Any real alternative to Twitter can't be a "all legal speech is allowed" zone. There has to be a fair amount of moderation in order to keep any site from becoming as toxic and echo chambery as Gab has become. I think the key is transparency. All moderation actions should be public, with the offending post preserved, the reason for removing it (or for banning the user) explained, and the moderator who removed the post (or banned the user) publicly identified, if not by their real name then at least by a permanent pseudonym that allows people to keep track of whom, what, when and why the moderator is moderating.

    Twitter certainly doesn't have this type of transparency. I think Gab has more transparency, but I cannot overstress my belief that the downsides of a free-for-all posting policy outweigh the upsides. "Just mute or block them" is not an adequate solution to all toxic users.

    Perhaps Gab is the antithesis to Twitter's thesis. If I knew anything about programming I might work on my ideal site myself.

    Agree about Torba.

    Like your transparency proposals.

    But I question why “‘just mute or block them’ is not an adequate solution to all toxic users”?

    I suspect that that there is nothing technical that keeps Twitter in charge of the market other than its monopoly due to network effect.

    A transparent Twitter would be a better Twitter, but since Twitter has a pretty unbreakable monopoly, it has no reason to improve.

    So absent a successful public square lawsuit against Twitter, we’re pretty much stuck with it as another SJW monopoly.

    • Replies: @Lurker
    Exactly, it's all network effect.

    Any comparable platform which doesn't effectively replace Twitter is inevitably going to be a ghetto of some kind.

    If Gab were truly successful it would replace Twitter, not rival it.
    , @AndrewR
    I mean, everyone has different preferences. If you prefer a very laissez-faire experience, Gab would be a good choice for you, assuming its enemies don't get it banned from the internet. But I think a lot of people would prefer an alternative to both troll-paradise Gab and super-pozzed, Kafkaesque Twitter. Personally, I think it's much better to just remove a toxic user altogether from the site than force dozens/hundreds/thousands of that user's victims to mute or block them. Obviously not everyone agrees, although I think most of the people who disagree disagree because they love the freedom to be total scumbags online (I am not saying you fall into this category)
  16. @AndrewR
    Flawed as Andrew Torba and Gab may be, I respect him for his efforts to create a real alternative to Twitter. But I don't think there is much of a future in Gab any more than Google+ turned out to become a real rival of Facebook.

    Any real alternative to Twitter can't be a "all legal speech is allowed" zone. There has to be a fair amount of moderation in order to keep any site from becoming as toxic and echo chambery as Gab has become. I think the key is transparency. All moderation actions should be public, with the offending post preserved, the reason for removing it (or for banning the user) explained, and the moderator who removed the post (or banned the user) publicly identified, if not by their real name then at least by a permanent pseudonym that allows people to keep track of whom, what, when and why the moderator is moderating.

    Twitter certainly doesn't have this type of transparency. I think Gab has more transparency, but I cannot overstress my belief that the downsides of a free-for-all posting policy outweigh the upsides. "Just mute or block them" is not an adequate solution to all toxic users.

    Perhaps Gab is the antithesis to Twitter's thesis. If I knew anything about programming I might work on my ideal site myself.

    Surely Twitter does allow free-for-all posting? I mean as long as you’re supportive of a general globo homo world view. Anything else would wrong, obviously.

    • Replies: @AndrewR
    True
  17. Godfrey Elfwick and now Queen Titania.

    It is illegal to laugh at our Ruling Class.

    • Agree: Bubba
  18. @Almost Missouri
    Agree about Torba.

    Like your transparency proposals.

    But I question why "'just mute or block them' is not an adequate solution to all toxic users"?

    I suspect that that there is nothing technical that keeps Twitter in charge of the market other than its monopoly due to network effect.

    A transparent Twitter would be a better Twitter, but since Twitter has a pretty unbreakable monopoly, it has no reason to improve.

    So absent a successful public square lawsuit against Twitter, we're pretty much stuck with it as another SJW monopoly.

    Exactly, it’s all network effect.

    Any comparable platform which doesn’t effectively replace Twitter is inevitably going to be a ghetto of some kind.

    If Gab were truly successful it would replace Twitter, not rival it.

  19. @Anon
    https://www.forbes.com/sites/travisbradberry/2015/02/10/new-study-shows-smoking-pot-permanently-lowers-iq/#513cdfa62f5b

    Uh-oh.

    Yes, no one seems to know that pot can cause brain damage. In fact, many people these days think pot is some kind of miracle cure-all for just about everything.

    • Replies: @dfordoom

    Yes, no one seems to know that pot can cause brain damage.
     
    If you want proof that pot can cause brain damage just look at the way society has gone down the toilet since the rise of the drug culture.

    When Americans drank bourbon and smoked cigarettes they put men on the Moon.
  20. Looks like she got a book deal with Little, Brown & Co.

    https://www.littlebrown.co.uk/books/detail.page?isbn=9781472130839

    Wonder what will happen with that now that she’s been tossed from Twitter.

  21. @Lurker
    Surely Twitter does allow free-for-all posting? I mean as long as you're supportive of a general globo homo world view. Anything else would wrong, obviously.

    True

  22. @Anon
    https://www.forbes.com/sites/travisbradberry/2015/02/10/new-study-shows-smoking-pot-permanently-lowers-iq/#513cdfa62f5b

    Uh-oh.

    This is news?

    • Replies: @Autochthon
    The study is, sure.
  23. @YetAnotherAnon
    Hakan Rotwrt(?), the chap who advises us all to pray to the Yellowstone magma chamber, was suspended a couple of days ago. Sad!

    Deactivated. Probably just taking a break.

  24. @Tiny Duck.
    President Cuck will spend $750Bil. on the Pentagon, but where is that dang wall? What a disappointment, and how humorous the fools who still think he's "salvation"

    Once in a great while the mini-mallard gets it right—well, sort of anyway.

    • Replies: @TomSchmidt
    I think the REAL TD doesn’t use a period. This isn’t l’anatra vera.
  25. @Anon
    https://www.forbes.com/sites/travisbradberry/2015/02/10/new-study-shows-smoking-pot-permanently-lowers-iq/#513cdfa62f5b

    Uh-oh.

    And makes you gay.

    BTW, was this not always obvious? All the habitual pot smokers I know are kinda dumb. Which is hardly surprising since to be high is to be kinda dumb. So if you chemically alter yourself to be kinda dumb a lot, you’ll end up kinda dumb. The only people who cannot foresee this are … kinda dumb.

    • LOL: Bill
    • Replies: @stillCARealist
    This is so crazy. The heaviest pot smoker I know is totally gay! No, wait, I have a relative who's also a gay (lesbian, so it may change) pothead. In fact, she works on illegal pot farms in rural CA, for money that she instantly blows on booze/cigarettes/pot.

    Two perfect data points.
  26. @AndrewR
    Flawed as Andrew Torba and Gab may be, I respect him for his efforts to create a real alternative to Twitter. But I don't think there is much of a future in Gab any more than Google+ turned out to become a real rival of Facebook.

    Any real alternative to Twitter can't be a "all legal speech is allowed" zone. There has to be a fair amount of moderation in order to keep any site from becoming as toxic and echo chambery as Gab has become. I think the key is transparency. All moderation actions should be public, with the offending post preserved, the reason for removing it (or for banning the user) explained, and the moderator who removed the post (or banned the user) publicly identified, if not by their real name then at least by a permanent pseudonym that allows people to keep track of whom, what, when and why the moderator is moderating.

    Twitter certainly doesn't have this type of transparency. I think Gab has more transparency, but I cannot overstress my belief that the downsides of a free-for-all posting policy outweigh the upsides. "Just mute or block them" is not an adequate solution to all toxic users.

    Perhaps Gab is the antithesis to Twitter's thesis. If I knew anything about programming I might work on my ideal site myself.

    I’m not sure Gab’s problem is its lack of moderation, though it’s hard to imagine a counterfactual. Twitter has a first mover advantage, which gave it the famous users, and it has ~50x as many users overall, and that’s its current moat. Gab mostly has right wingers who’ve been banned from Twitter.

    When Twitter bans a Titania McGrath, it shrinks its moat a tiny bit; if she went to Gab, she’s draw a few users with her (if Trump ever went to Gab, he’d expand Gab’s user base by 10x).

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    Is Gab's UI as good as Twitter for reading, communicating, and disseminating? If not, can they mostly ape Titter on that without violating patent rights or copyright?
    , @Chrisnonymous
    Isn't the solution obvious? You make a cross between Twitter and a feed reader that allows to "re-tweet" cross-platform and be signed into one service while staying in touch with people from Twitter, Gab, or whatever.
    , @Reg Cæsar

    (if Trump ever went to Gab, he’d expand Gab’s user base by 10x).
     
    Why hasn't Trump been banned from Twitter? That's the shoe that hasn't dropped.

    If you want proof of their inconsistency, there it is.
    , @Escher
    Agree
  27. Is the suspension temporary or permanent? Was there any explanation? Any particular tweet that triggered it?

  28. OT, still waiting for “Angry Bitch” frames for glasses to fall out of fashion.

    • Replies: @MBlanc46
    That will happen when angry bitches fall out of fashion. I.e., never.
  29. Just a sapphic preacher at a podium dropping truth bombs to a silent audience.

    That is a beautiful sentence; balanced and rugged, either spoken or read.

    Let this day be forever more remembered as the day totalitarianism reached its high tide in European Christendom. Titania McGrath will be missed, but she’ll be back and better than ever!

    Prime Minister Theresa May must think she has titanium balls to go along with her leopard print shoes if she thinks the English will not go ballistic if she keeps trying to screw them over.

    England Out Of The European Union Now!

    England Out Of The United Kingdom Now!

    The European Central Bank And The European Union Must be Destroyed!

    The answer to 1984 is 1066!

    Merry Christmas!

    • Replies: @Holden Mcgroin
    I, for one, welcome our new Norse Overlords

    https://youtu.be/9LQogUuAZcY
  30. @Cagey Beast
    OT: Bernard Henri-Levy's website calls the Yellow Vests "white trash". Run it through the translator of your choice:

    Gilets Jaunes : Bienvenue dans la France White Trash !
    https://laregledujeu.org/2018/12/04/34628/gilets-jaunes-bienvenue-dans-la-france-white-trash/

    Wrong link? Don’t see BHL there.

    • Replies: @Cagey Beast
    It's BHL's publication.
  31. @YetAnotherAnon
    Hakan Rotwrt(?), the chap who advises us all to pray to the Yellowstone magma chamber, was suspended a couple of days ago. Sad!

    Was he actually suspended or did he just deactivate?

  32. @Dave Pinsen
    I’m not sure Gab’s problem is its lack of moderation, though it’s hard to imagine a counterfactual. Twitter has a first mover advantage, which gave it the famous users, and it has ~50x as many users overall, and that’s its current moat. Gab mostly has right wingers who’ve been banned from Twitter.

    When Twitter bans a Titania McGrath, it shrinks its moat a tiny bit; if she went to Gab, she’s draw a few users with her (if Trump ever went to Gab, he’d expand Gab’s user base by 10x).

    Is Gab’s UI as good as Twitter for reading, communicating, and disseminating? If not, can they mostly ape Titter on that without violating patent rights or copyright?

    • Replies: @Dave Pinsen
    I think its UI is about as good. Gab also was ahead of the curve in expanding the number of characters (to 300, I think) before Twitter doubled its characters from 140 to 280. But I log in maybe once per week, where as I look at Twitter every day. Twitter just as so much more interesting users now. Gab has Heartiste, and that's the only one I can think of offhand.
    , @Autochthon
    There's no problem with intellectual property as long as the interface isn't misleadingly similar.
    , @Thin-Skinned Masta-Beta
    The Web UI is probably ok, but they've been blocked from shipping any apps for the iOS platform and have faced withdrawal of their app from the Android store.

    The Apple iTunes App Store and now the Google Android Play store stubbornly obstruct Gab from providing native mobile apps because Gab refuses to commit to censoring contributors energetically enough.

    https://www.theverge.com/2017/8/18/16166240/gab-google-play-removed-hate-speech

    Hard to say where the Silicon Valley censorship commissars' influence ends. It's turtles all the way down, or in this case fail whales.
  33. @Tiny Duck.
    President Cuck will spend $750Bil. on the Pentagon, but where is that dang wall? What a disappointment, and how humorous the fools who still think he's "salvation"

    where is that dang wall?

    Whoa now, what’s happening to this guy? Is he crossing the aisle to instead become ‘Tiny Cuck’?

    The road to sex change is shorter that way, I’ve been told. Vaya con el diablo.

  34. @Almost Missouri
    Agree about Torba.

    Like your transparency proposals.

    But I question why "'just mute or block them' is not an adequate solution to all toxic users"?

    I suspect that that there is nothing technical that keeps Twitter in charge of the market other than its monopoly due to network effect.

    A transparent Twitter would be a better Twitter, but since Twitter has a pretty unbreakable monopoly, it has no reason to improve.

    So absent a successful public square lawsuit against Twitter, we're pretty much stuck with it as another SJW monopoly.

    I mean, everyone has different preferences. If you prefer a very laissez-faire experience, Gab would be a good choice for you, assuming its enemies don’t get it banned from the internet. But I think a lot of people would prefer an alternative to both troll-paradise Gab and super-pozzed, Kafkaesque Twitter. Personally, I think it’s much better to just remove a toxic user altogether from the site than force dozens/hundreds/thousands of that user’s victims to mute or block them. Obviously not everyone agrees, although I think most of the people who disagree disagree because they love the freedom to be total scumbags online (I am not saying you fall into this category)

    • Replies: @anonymous
    To be precise, nobody who's neither evil nor a complete moron agrees.


    The whole fucking point is that we don't want some clown like you deciding who's "toxic."

    , @Almost Missouri

    "... everyone has different preferences. ... a lot of people would prefer..."
     
    Sure. But the point about network effects is that your preferences don't matter. The network has an inertia of its own.

    You might have preferred a different phone system in the 1960s, say one where--like a visitor to your front door--you could see who was calling before answering. But that didn't matter. The 1960s "blind caller" phone system was already built and people were already using it. Everyone had a phone number and everyone knew the numbers on that system. Did the technical possibility of a better system exist? Sure, but the existing system was already built and in use. In fact, the improvement--Caller ID--eventually did get integrated, if you didn't mind waiting 30 or 40 years. And even then, easy spoofing has partially negated Caller ID's benefit.

    Obviously, Twitter's infrastructure, both material and social, has less inertia than the 1960s phone system, but it is not zero. So maybe you don't have to wait 30 or 40 years for an improvement. Maybe only 10 or 15. Buuuut, the 20th century phone system was owned, run and regulated by more or less agnostic sane people. Twitter is owned, run and regulated by fanatic, insane vipassana meditators. So YMMV on whether they see your "improvement" as desirable or not.
  35. Good

    This sends a message that hate speech and hate content, even if done “in comedy”, will not be tolerated.

    The McGrath troll is only taken seriously by white ringers so stupid that they don’t really know how progressives think.

    The truth is that conseravatives suck at humor and stuff like McGrath isn’t funny.

    • Replies: @fish
    Ohs Tinys…..


    Yo sho did laff whens I slipped you lil Lenderpt wit out chu knowin!

    Yea….dat'n be funny

    Lendert "always been teh komedyguy" Pizzt
    , @TomSchmidt
    “The truth is that conseravatives suck at humor and stuff like McGrath isn’t funny.”

    That’s excellent! And funny.
  36. @Tiny Duck.
    President Cuck will spend $750Bil. on the Pentagon, but where is that dang wall? What a disappointment, and how humorous the fools who still think he's "salvation"

    Dead on, TD. What benefit do the deplorables get from the military budget other than the chance to liquefy their brains and to try out the latest prosthetics?

  37. @Tiny Duck.
    President Cuck will spend $750Bil. on the Pentagon, but where is that dang wall? What a disappointment, and how humorous the fools who still think he's "salvation"

    Go Cuck elsewhere, we already had the real genuine tiny duck. You’re a terrible larper. The real tiny duck would have added details about the US needing the brown men to rescue white women from the scourge of tiny penises and how all white women crave the brown Latino Johnson.

    He would have pointed out America would be majority Brown in a few years and white men would never vote or matter again. The real tiny duck would have mentioned, in a diatribe with poor grammar, how the very smart brothas, had an excellent article about the wall, white man hate and fear, and how this linked to gender-queer intersectionality.

    Up your troll game or go home. Your larping is weak sauce. Be funny, provocative, or play the role properly. Note, this is not a response to your comment, this is a response to your sub par trolling.

    • Troll: Tiny Duck.
  38. @Anon
    https://www.forbes.com/sites/travisbradberry/2015/02/10/new-study-shows-smoking-pot-permanently-lowers-iq/#513cdfa62f5b

    Uh-oh.

    I am not sure how this graph works exactly. 1, 2,3+ diagnoses.

    https://www.pnas.org/highwire/filestream/610127/field_highwire_adjunct_files/0/pnas.201206820SI.pdf

    However, it seems like the most it docks you as an 18+ user is a couple IQ points, likely less I think.

  39. @Anon
    https://www.forbes.com/sites/travisbradberry/2015/02/10/new-study-shows-smoking-pot-permanently-lowers-iq/#513cdfa62f5b

    Uh-oh.

    What about edibles?

  40. Anonymous[165] • Disclaimer says:

    Been using personal computers since the late 80s, and got onto international online services (CompuServe, AOL) around the same time. I designed and maintained commercial web sites, ran a few personal sites of my own, and worked in tech in San Francisco during the ’00s up until the first (pre-3G) mobile platforms.

    I have never understood what is indispensable (much less worthwhile) about Twitter. The design and structure aren’t particularly inspired. In fact I was in the public beta before you could attach images in-line (2007) and it was pretty damn boring. The idea seemed to be facilitating group public texting, as stupid as that sounds. Of course this is not why Twitter now is successful. Twitter is successful because it lets dumb celebrities who know nothing about tech pontificate/self-promote around the clock from their phones. Yes, I realize that description would include the President. When the campaign released news of substance such as the policy docs about immigration/trade and gun control you’ll remember that they didn’t use Twitter to do so. Titania is funny as well– and could continue to be at another venue.

    There is nothing cutting-edge about Twitter’s undergirding tech. There is a heavily merchandised air of “exclusivity” with following/followers which is as exclusive as belonging to the Monkees Fan Club or the Kiss Army; this won’t last and Facebook/Instagram already simulated this benefit better after Twitter. We are treating this unimpressive web bulletin board, which laughably claims to have “API”, as a matter of supreme constitutional import, I suppose because of rampant laziness and unwillingness to use other functions of the Internet rather than keep up bonafides in a crappy mongrelized online club that will be obsolete in a few years. What Twitter lacks in engineering and sophistication it compensates with specialized appeal to its core users: moron basketball players, computer-illiterate journalists, and politicians.

    Any pseudo-controversy over Twitter regulation/censorship ginned up by media tools is a deliberate distraction from the real depredations against the citizenry and the regnant anarcho-tyrannic policies fostered by the bandit overclass.

    • Replies: @El Dato
    HEAR HEAR
  41. What was it that got her banned? Did she actually tweet something that violated their TOS, or was she banned based upon the number of complaints she got?

  42. @Dave Pinsen
    I’m not sure Gab’s problem is its lack of moderation, though it’s hard to imagine a counterfactual. Twitter has a first mover advantage, which gave it the famous users, and it has ~50x as many users overall, and that’s its current moat. Gab mostly has right wingers who’ve been banned from Twitter.

    When Twitter bans a Titania McGrath, it shrinks its moat a tiny bit; if she went to Gab, she’s draw a few users with her (if Trump ever went to Gab, he’d expand Gab’s user base by 10x).

    Isn’t the solution obvious? You make a cross between Twitter and a feed reader that allows to “re-tweet” cross-platform and be signed into one service while staying in touch with people from Twitter, Gab, or whatever.

    • Replies: @Dave Pinsen
    Gab already lets you automatically cross-post on Twitter.
  43. @Almost Missouri
    And makes you gay.

    https://twitter.com/WesternIdentity/status/1063451720129413120

    BTW, was this not always obvious? All the habitual pot smokers I know are kinda dumb. Which is hardly surprising since to be high is to be kinda dumb. So if you chemically alter yourself to be kinda dumb a lot, you'll end up kinda dumb. The only people who cannot foresee this are ... kinda dumb.

    This is so crazy. The heaviest pot smoker I know is totally gay! No, wait, I have a relative who’s also a gay (lesbian, so it may change) pothead. In fact, she works on illegal pot farms in rural CA, for money that she instantly blows on booze/cigarettes/pot.

    Two perfect data points.

  44. @Tiny Duck.
    President Cuck will spend $750Bil. on the Pentagon, but where is that dang wall? What a disappointment, and how humorous the fools who still think he's "salvation"

    I hate to encourage you but

    Salvation = Only game in town

    Plus, I need to post more frequently (what is it, ten posts per month?) to be able to call you a troll.

    • LOL: Mr. Rational
  45. Now I know what happened to ྖs one-hit-wonder Lisa Loeb.

  46. Titiana … obviously a Russian Tit Bot. Oh, Titania. Still a Russian Tit Bot.

  47. anonymous[469] • Disclaimer says:

    I think the main problem with twitter is that it allows immediate response. When I think about how the most primative/ancient fight or flight parts of our brain are usually shown to be fastest, I can’t help but wonder how much less flaming would happen if there was some required delay to allow the newer/more rational parts of our brain time to engage. As a recovering sarcastic asshole, I can say that when I can remember to consider the long term implications of what I may put out in public, many things never get posted at all. Much less entertaining for everyone, but much more effective for me overall.

  48. Titania we hardly knew ye.

    OT/related to your recent tweet:
    not-quite-hall-of-fame: Ron Fairly
    most career home runs without ever hitting 20 in a season.
    215 lifetime home runs, exactly 300th on lifetime HR list!

    • Replies: @fish

    egregious philbin
     
    Hat tip for the posting "handle"!
  49. Plus, I need to post more frequently (what is it, ten posts per month?) to be able to call you a troll.

    Took care of that for ya..Merry Christmas.

  50. @Anon
    https://www.forbes.com/sites/travisbradberry/2015/02/10/new-study-shows-smoking-pot-permanently-lowers-iq/#513cdfa62f5b

    Uh-oh.

    The stepbrother of one of my school friends was a habitual drug user (I think cocaine or heroine). According to my friend the doctors told his stepmother, that the drugs had permanently weakened the tissue in his brain (he said something about small holes in his brain tissue)

    • Replies: @Lot
    Small holes in the brain caused by heavy amphetamine type drug use are called Olney Lesions.
  51. Jack Dorsey spent the last month in some silent retreat in a Burmese monastry. Burmese monks tend to take a Sentinelese attitude to diversity (at least as far as Muslims are concerned).

    Jack is nowhere near as woke as the saps who work for him.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6298961/Twitter-CEO-Jack-Dorsey-complains-tax-support-homeless-San-Francisco.html

    • Replies: @jimmyriddle
    https://twitter.com/JarvisDupont/status/1072173881434271749
    , @El Dato
    in a self referential loop he then gets blasted on twitter and the mess exhibited by russian drolls


    https://www.rt.com/news/446028-dorsey-myanmar-meditation-criticism/
    , @Lowe
    If they didn't kill Dorsey during his retreat, then they clearly do not have the Sentinelese attitude to diversity.
  52. The best thing about “Titania” was her perfect simulation of the sheer ENERGY of a Woke White Woman.

    I was dealing with a horrible specimen just the other day, and I am always astounded by how they just never, ever sleep. Woke black people of both, I mean all genders and woke white males will eventually give it a rest, but the woke white women I encounter are absolutely consumed. It’s a like a weird religious cult for them.

    There’s a reason hall monitors, nosy prudes and dreary schoolmarms are always portrayed as bitter white women. White ladies of a certain type seem to relish the idea of being jailers and enforcers.

  53. Humorless Twitter fags.

  54. I want a time machine!

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    Note the need for only six characters on the license plates, five of them numerals. Is California up to eight yet?

    California's seven million then would rank them only 15th today, behind Arizona. She was fifth then, behind Ohio, which had 225 more people.

    Massachusetts, Indiana, and Tennessee might pass seven million on the 2020 Census, just sixteen months away.


    1 New York 13,479,142
    2 Pennsylvania 9,900,180
    3 Illinois 7,897,241
    4 Ohio 6,907,612
    5 California 6,907,387
     
    , @Joe Bloggs
    1940s and 1950s Californians did not have enough children, and did not teach the ones they did have, to preserve their paradise.

    The future is fertile.
  55. @Anon
    https://www.forbes.com/sites/travisbradberry/2015/02/10/new-study-shows-smoking-pot-permanently-lowers-iq/#513cdfa62f5b

    Uh-oh.

    It’s a sign of our lax and dissolute times this is even a revelation.

    I remember some of the stoner kids in high school. Nice enough people but always a paragraph or so behind when you were trying to talk to them.

  56. @AnotherDad
    This is news?

    The study is, sure.

  57. @AndrewR
    Flawed as Andrew Torba and Gab may be, I respect him for his efforts to create a real alternative to Twitter. But I don't think there is much of a future in Gab any more than Google+ turned out to become a real rival of Facebook.

    Any real alternative to Twitter can't be a "all legal speech is allowed" zone. There has to be a fair amount of moderation in order to keep any site from becoming as toxic and echo chambery as Gab has become. I think the key is transparency. All moderation actions should be public, with the offending post preserved, the reason for removing it (or for banning the user) explained, and the moderator who removed the post (or banned the user) publicly identified, if not by their real name then at least by a permanent pseudonym that allows people to keep track of whom, what, when and why the moderator is moderating.

    Twitter certainly doesn't have this type of transparency. I think Gab has more transparency, but I cannot overstress my belief that the downsides of a free-for-all posting policy outweigh the upsides. "Just mute or block them" is not an adequate solution to all toxic users.

    Perhaps Gab is the antithesis to Twitter's thesis. If I knew anything about programming I might work on my ideal site myself.

    This is dumb.

    Torba is a hero. The guy has skin in the game and he is fighting an important fight. *You* are not doing anything.

    That said, no alternative to the approved platforms will be allowed, so Torba is fighting a losing battle. The coordination of Big Tech is now being followed by the coordinated efforts of Big Bank. That means you can put up a web site, but you can’t run a business on-line, unless the people in charge approve.

    In the very near future, other services will get in on the act of de-platforming people. The big grocery chains will ban Richard Spencer from their stores. Credit card issuers will refuse to issue cards to blasphemers and heretics.

    • Agree: YetAnotherAnon
    • Replies: @AndrewR
    I never said I was doing more than Torba, and I praised him, so I'm not sure where your hostility came from. Just kidding.
    Actually I am pretty sure. Maybe I'll start my own blog like yours with like a dozen regular readers where I can post my self-hatred disguised as insightful political commentary. Have a great Monday!
    , @Corvinus
    "Torba is a hero. The guy has skin in the game and he is fighting an important fight."

    Depends upon one's perspective regarding his heroism.

    https://write.as/tyronejackson/the-vox-day-and-gab-controversy

    "Credit card issuers will refuse to issue cards to blasphemers and heretics."

    Speaking of blasphemy, you once called Martin Luther (the 95 Theses dude) a pedophile.

    http://www.unz.com/isteve/two-definitions-of-democracy-rule-of-majority-vs-rule-by-the-democratic-party/#comment-2431896

    Refer to Comment 182. I asked you several times for a citation. You are making a strong charge here. Will you finally come clean?
    , @Bill Jones
    But bakers will still have to bake cakes for sodomites.
  58. @Anon
    https://www.forbes.com/sites/travisbradberry/2015/02/10/new-study-shows-smoking-pot-permanently-lowers-iq/#513cdfa62f5b

    Uh-oh.

    >https://www.forbes.com/sites/travisbradberry/2015/02/10/new-study-shows-smoking-pot-permanently-lowers-iq/#513cdfa62f5b

    Not true, not true at all in all cases. Take me for example. I tested as a child to have an IQ of 157. A fellow-student at college bragged how he got 2 papers in mathematics published written behind dope. I eventually found out how helpful pot is to clear up one’s thoughts. While writing my Ph.D. dissertation I sometimes/often lost the trail of the thought I was explaining. When I realized the trail was lost, smoking a joint suppressed short-term thinking and allowed one to think cosmically, so to speak. The starting point of the train of thought reappeared with clarity and one could return to writing at the point where one had gotten lost. To be sure, it took some 15 or 20 minutes before one’s typing skills returned. But still and all. Couldn’t have done it without weed, it being the Ph.D. diss. and 5 papers published in refereed journals and several more making the rounds of refereed journals. I recommend smoking pot in that context and see for yourself.

    • Replies: @Old Prude
    My sister got her PhD from Sanford while smoking pot with her Professors
    , @Anonym
    https://youtu.be/7zV78IgXzB0

    I find pot useless for academic work. I find it just makes the simple appear profound. Enjoyable yes but it won't pay the bills.

    It is hard to know what my brain would be like without having tried small amounts for a very brief period in my life. Possibly in the high IQ, it (and other psychadelics) allows a push towards the insane and towards also the genius. By screwing with the synapses, you allow the brain to generate more ideas, some crazy, some inspired genius, not all good, but the first step to generating good ideas is to brainstorm many new ones and the next step is to eliminate the unworkable ideas.

    Both of those steps have always been a strength of mine. It is hard to say if pot made any difference. But I am only one datapoint. No doubt drugs have have led to the creation of new music. The world is a better place I think for having the later Beatles albums IMO.
    , @Cloudbuster
    Yet you're not smart enough to realize that an anecdotal example doesn't refute a 38-year longitudinal study of 1038 individuals. "Not true. Not true at all in all cases" is a hilarious series of hedges. We go from an emphatic "Not true," which plainly flies in the face of the evidence to "Not true at all in all cases," which is a completely different thing, and isn't at odds with the study.

    Still, you're making the same assertion one would be making if one tried to refute a study that smoking has a causal link to lung cancer by saying "Nuh-uh! I had a grandfather who smoked all his life, lived to 90 and died having sex with a supermodel!"

    I'd be concerned your pot smoking has had a profound negative affect on that supposed 157 IQ.. Average IQ of people with a Ph.D. is about 125. Your IQ of 157 should have allowed you to, comparatively, breeze through the process, as least as far as the raw brain power required. I think it's obvious that many, many Ph.D. candidates -- probably many with IQs far below 157 -- complete their work without the "aid" of marijuana.

    It's plausible to suggest that you simply had a lot of IQ to lose, so the visible effects are minimal in your life. The study said IQ loss was about 8 points. If you were 157 and lost 8 points, your resulting 149 IQ still puts you well in the genius range. I'm also assuming 8 points is an average -- you may have been on the extreme end of the curve and only lost a point, which wouldn't even be detectable. That still doesn't negate the study. The study also says IQ loss was most detectable among heavy users prior to age 18 -- that doesn't seem to correlate with the usage you describe, as you would have been several years older when pursuing your Ph.D. and I can't tell whether your use would qualify as "heavy."

    In summary, you give a knee-jerk, strawman "rebuttal" that's unworthy of a Ph.D. with a 157 IQ. It's not only irrelevant, but irresponsible; if your explanation and advice were taken seriously by younger, less intelligent pot smokers, you'd be complicit in leading them into a profoundly harmful behavior.
    You should be concerned.

    https://brainsize.wordpress.com/2014/07/12/the-iqs-of-academic-elites/

    https://brainsize.wordpress.com/2014/06/02/iq-years-of-education/
    , @Hypnotoad666
    I think you were originally too smart for your own good. You were probably able to realize that your Ph.D dissertation was a useless waste of time in the grand scheme. And there were too many, far more interesting, thoughts going through your head.

    Once the pot knocked off a few IQ points, you were back in the range necessary to be a good worker bee. Just a theory.
  59. @Tiny Duck.
    President Cuck will spend $750Bil. on the Pentagon, but where is that dang wall? What a disappointment, and how humorous the fools who still think he's "salvation"

    First time that I’ve agreed with Tiny.

    • Replies: @Percy Gryce
    Ich auch.
  60. @Anon
    https://www.forbes.com/sites/travisbradberry/2015/02/10/new-study-shows-smoking-pot-permanently-lowers-iq/#513cdfa62f5b

    Uh-oh.

    Lower IQ can be a boon past a certain point. I won’t knock it.

    • Replies: @Charles Erwin Wilson II

    Lower IQ can be a boon past a certain point. I won’t knock it.
     
    Are stupid people happier? Is this where the adage "grinning like an idiot" comes from?
  61. What was her final tweet?

  62. Go to the library. Read a book. Twitter probably lowers IQ worse than pot. What if everybody just stopped visiting. Never been there, never will.

  63. @Anonymammal
    >https://www.forbes.com/sites/travisbradberry/2015/02/10/new-study-shows-smoking-pot-permanently-lowers-iq/#513cdfa62f5b

    Not true, not true at all in all cases. Take me for example. I tested as a child to have an IQ of 157. A fellow-student at college bragged how he got 2 papers in mathematics published written behind dope. I eventually found out how helpful pot is to clear up one's thoughts. While writing my Ph.D. dissertation I sometimes/often lost the trail of the thought I was explaining. When I realized the trail was lost, smoking a joint suppressed short-term thinking and allowed one to think cosmically, so to speak. The starting point of the train of thought reappeared with clarity and one could return to writing at the point where one had gotten lost. To be sure, it took some 15 or 20 minutes before one's typing skills returned. But still and all. Couldn't have done it without weed, it being the Ph.D. diss. and 5 papers published in refereed journals and several more making the rounds of refereed journals. I recommend smoking pot in that context and see for yourself.

    My sister got her PhD from Sanford while smoking pot with her Professors

  64. @Anonymous
    I want a time machine!
    https://youtu.be/er4ab2RzaEo

    Note the need for only six characters on the license plates, five of them numerals. Is California up to eight yet?

    California’s seven million then would rank them only 15th today, behind Arizona. She was fifth then, behind Ohio, which had 225 more people.

    Massachusetts, Indiana, and Tennessee might pass seven million on the 2020 Census, just sixteen months away.

    1 New York 13,479,142
    2 Pennsylvania 9,900,180
    3 Illinois 7,897,241
    4 Ohio 6,907,612
    5 California 6,907,387

  65. @Tiny Duck
    Good

    This sends a message that hate speech and hate content, even if done "in comedy", will not be tolerated.


    The McGrath troll is only taken seriously by white ringers so stupid that they don't really know how progressives think.

    The truth is that conseravatives suck at humor and stuff like McGrath isn't funny.

    Ohs Tinys…..

    Yo sho did laff whens I slipped you lil Lenderpt wit out chu knowin!

    Yea….dat’n be funny

    Lendert “always been teh komedyguy” Pizzt

  66. @egregious philbin
    Titania we hardly knew ye.

    OT/related to your recent tweet:
    not-quite-hall-of-fame: Ron Fairly
    most career home runs without ever hitting 20 in a season.
    215 lifetime home runs, exactly 300th on lifetime HR list!

    egregious philbin

    Hat tip for the posting “handle”!

  67. @Dave Pinsen
    I’m not sure Gab’s problem is its lack of moderation, though it’s hard to imagine a counterfactual. Twitter has a first mover advantage, which gave it the famous users, and it has ~50x as many users overall, and that’s its current moat. Gab mostly has right wingers who’ve been banned from Twitter.

    When Twitter bans a Titania McGrath, it shrinks its moat a tiny bit; if she went to Gab, she’s draw a few users with her (if Trump ever went to Gab, he’d expand Gab’s user base by 10x).

    (if Trump ever went to Gab, he’d expand Gab’s user base by 10x).

    Why hasn’t Trump been banned from Twitter? That’s the shoe that hasn’t dropped.

    If you want proof of their inconsistency, there it is.

    • Replies: @Dave Pinsen
    Because Twitter's management isn't completely stupid.

    Twitter never got to Facebook levels of mass-adoption, but what it did get was the press, the politicians, and other news makers.
    , @anon
    banned for what though - hurting democrats' feelings?
  68. @The Z Blog
    This is dumb.

    Torba is a hero. The guy has skin in the game and he is fighting an important fight. *You* are not doing anything.

    That said, no alternative to the approved platforms will be allowed, so Torba is fighting a losing battle. The coordination of Big Tech is now being followed by the coordinated efforts of Big Bank. That means you can put up a web site, but you can't run a business on-line, unless the people in charge approve.

    In the very near future, other services will get in on the act of de-platforming people. The big grocery chains will ban Richard Spencer from their stores. Credit card issuers will refuse to issue cards to blasphemers and heretics.

    I never said I was doing more than Torba, and I praised him, so I’m not sure where your hostility came from. Just kidding.
    Actually I am pretty sure. Maybe I’ll start my own blog like yours with like a dozen regular readers where I can post my self-hatred disguised as insightful political commentary. Have a great Monday!

    • Replies: @Lot
    Can't decide if I like earnest or grouchy AndrewR better.
  69. Weasel talk by Patreon

  70. Another proof thatTwitter is an Alt-Right organization that silences the voices of those who fight for the oppressed.

  71. @jimmyriddle
    Jack Dorsey spent the last month in some silent retreat in a Burmese monastry. Burmese monks tend to take a Sentinelese attitude to diversity (at least as far as Muslims are concerned).

    Jack is nowhere near as woke as the saps who work for him.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6298961/Twitter-CEO-Jack-Dorsey-complains-tax-support-homeless-San-Francisco.html

  72. Titania, titanium plural;
    So urban, make yo s— sound rural.
    Bed not say her satire is puerile
    ’Less you want hematoma subdural.

  73. @AndrewR
    Flawed as Andrew Torba and Gab may be, I respect him for his efforts to create a real alternative to Twitter. But I don't think there is much of a future in Gab any more than Google+ turned out to become a real rival of Facebook.

    Any real alternative to Twitter can't be a "all legal speech is allowed" zone. There has to be a fair amount of moderation in order to keep any site from becoming as toxic and echo chambery as Gab has become. I think the key is transparency. All moderation actions should be public, with the offending post preserved, the reason for removing it (or for banning the user) explained, and the moderator who removed the post (or banned the user) publicly identified, if not by their real name then at least by a permanent pseudonym that allows people to keep track of whom, what, when and why the moderator is moderating.

    Twitter certainly doesn't have this type of transparency. I think Gab has more transparency, but I cannot overstress my belief that the downsides of a free-for-all posting policy outweigh the upsides. "Just mute or block them" is not an adequate solution to all toxic users.

    Perhaps Gab is the antithesis to Twitter's thesis. If I knew anything about programming I might work on my ideal site myself.

    Part of me thinks that if Torba can hold out for a while he may end up OK. He needs to improve the site from both a tech and culture standpoint, certainly. But here’s how I see the future of Twitter playing out in a macro way:

    Twitter made no profit for a very, very long time, and is now making a very small profit. In terms of profit and revenue picture it is about four times as large as…wait for it…. Cheyenne Regional Medical Center in Cheyenne Wyoming. Well, slightly less than four times, actually. But hopefully that gives you a sense of relative scale.

    These companies are not as big and powerful as you think they are. They exist because they we are in a historical period with extremely low interest rates and very few opportunities for investment. Thus, any company that can spin a plausible growth story gets an absurd valuation.

    Twitter will eventually stop growing (possibly it already has.) Interest rates will eventually go back up (they already are.) When both of these things happen the stock starts looking like a normal-ish stock and becomes much less valuable than it is now. When this happens you can no longer compensate employees with stock options. When this happens you lose a lot of your technical talent. When this happens the user experience starts to degrade, and when this happens users go elsewhere. In my opinion twitter is not much of a natural monopoly, doesn’t really have strong network effects, and the market can absolutely support several niche twitters.

    Torba can’t tap into dumb money by spinning a growth story, this is his big disadvantage. But as soon as that dumb money disappears he ends up on a level playing field.

    • Replies: @AndrewR
    Insightful comment. This is why I come to unz.com. Thank you.
    , @Hypnotoad666
    I agree Twitter and other social media sites are probably way over-valued from an objective profitability point of view. Stockholders will end up taking a bath.

    But it seems to me these companies can always command a hefty "premium" over their objective value due to their status as political and public opinion influencers. It's like the way newspapers have traditionally been bought by billionaires from other fields for their prestige value even when they can't possibly turn a profit. (But now print is so passe that there is no prestige left.)

    After they lose most of their putative stock valuation (in the process you describe), Twitter & company will probably go private and get picked up at relative bargain prices as trophy purchases by oligarchs. Perhaps we can at least hope that one or more of these oligarchs is a conservative.

    It would be quite satisfying to see SJWs getting banned and being told -- "well, it's a private company they can do what they like."
  74. @AndrewR
    Flawed as Andrew Torba and Gab may be, I respect him for his efforts to create a real alternative to Twitter. But I don't think there is much of a future in Gab any more than Google+ turned out to become a real rival of Facebook.

    Any real alternative to Twitter can't be a "all legal speech is allowed" zone. There has to be a fair amount of moderation in order to keep any site from becoming as toxic and echo chambery as Gab has become. I think the key is transparency. All moderation actions should be public, with the offending post preserved, the reason for removing it (or for banning the user) explained, and the moderator who removed the post (or banned the user) publicly identified, if not by their real name then at least by a permanent pseudonym that allows people to keep track of whom, what, when and why the moderator is moderating.

    Twitter certainly doesn't have this type of transparency. I think Gab has more transparency, but I cannot overstress my belief that the downsides of a free-for-all posting policy outweigh the upsides. "Just mute or block them" is not an adequate solution to all toxic users.

    Perhaps Gab is the antithesis to Twitter's thesis. If I knew anything about programming I might work on my ideal site myself.

    Maybe, just maybe, social media (Twitter, et al.) is a waste of time–or worse.

    In other words, no good outcome can result from attempting to devise a perfect world of transparent moderation, including some form of appeal and arbitration to satisfy users–as if the quest to count the number of angels on the head of a pin can be finally and definitely determined.

    It’s an impossible task to satisfy all people at all times. Markets work with choices.

  75. @Tiny Duck.
    President Cuck will spend $750Bil. on the Pentagon, but where is that dang wall? What a disappointment, and how humorous the fools who still think he's "salvation"

    This is TD with a period (“.”)–as in “Tiny Duck.”–the the real thing.

    A different troll.

    • Troll: Tiny Duck.
    • Replies: @Hail

    A different troll.
     
    But where is the lie?

    Tiny Duck 2.0 sez:

    $750Bil. on the Pentagon, but where is that dang wall? What a disappointment
     
  76. @AndrewR
    Flawed as Andrew Torba and Gab may be, I respect him for his efforts to create a real alternative to Twitter. But I don't think there is much of a future in Gab any more than Google+ turned out to become a real rival of Facebook.

    Any real alternative to Twitter can't be a "all legal speech is allowed" zone. There has to be a fair amount of moderation in order to keep any site from becoming as toxic and echo chambery as Gab has become. I think the key is transparency. All moderation actions should be public, with the offending post preserved, the reason for removing it (or for banning the user) explained, and the moderator who removed the post (or banned the user) publicly identified, if not by their real name then at least by a permanent pseudonym that allows people to keep track of whom, what, when and why the moderator is moderating.

    Twitter certainly doesn't have this type of transparency. I think Gab has more transparency, but I cannot overstress my belief that the downsides of a free-for-all posting policy outweigh the upsides. "Just mute or block them" is not an adequate solution to all toxic users.

    Perhaps Gab is the antithesis to Twitter's thesis. If I knew anything about programming I might work on my ideal site myself.

    Yes. Censorship is not wrong. It’s censorship of the truth which is wrong.

  77. @Anonymous
    Been using personal computers since the late 80s, and got onto international online services (CompuServe, AOL) around the same time. I designed and maintained commercial web sites, ran a few personal sites of my own, and worked in tech in San Francisco during the '00s up until the first (pre-3G) mobile platforms.

    I have never understood what is indispensable (much less worthwhile) about Twitter. The design and structure aren't particularly inspired. In fact I was in the public beta before you could attach images in-line (2007) and it was pretty damn boring. The idea seemed to be facilitating group public texting, as stupid as that sounds. Of course this is not why Twitter now is successful. Twitter is successful because it lets dumb celebrities who know nothing about tech pontificate/self-promote around the clock from their phones. Yes, I realize that description would include the President. When the campaign released news of substance such as the policy docs about immigration/trade and gun control you'll remember that they didn't use Twitter to do so. Titania is funny as well-- and could continue to be at another venue.

    There is nothing cutting-edge about Twitter's undergirding tech. There is a heavily merchandised air of "exclusivity" with following/followers which is as exclusive as belonging to the Monkees Fan Club or the Kiss Army; this won't last and Facebook/Instagram already simulated this benefit better after Twitter. We are treating this unimpressive web bulletin board, which laughably claims to have "API", as a matter of supreme constitutional import, I suppose because of rampant laziness and unwillingness to use other functions of the Internet rather than keep up bonafides in a crappy mongrelized online club that will be obsolete in a few years. What Twitter lacks in engineering and sophistication it compensates with specialized appeal to its core users: moron basketball players, computer-illiterate journalists, and politicians.

    Any pseudo-controversy over Twitter regulation/censorship ginned up by media tools is a deliberate distraction from the real depredations against the citizenry and the regnant anarcho-tyrannic policies fostered by the bandit overclass.

    HEAR HEAR

  78. @jimmyriddle
    Jack Dorsey spent the last month in some silent retreat in a Burmese monastry. Burmese monks tend to take a Sentinelese attitude to diversity (at least as far as Muslims are concerned).

    Jack is nowhere near as woke as the saps who work for him.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6298961/Twitter-CEO-Jack-Dorsey-complains-tax-support-homeless-San-Francisco.html

    in a self referential loop he then gets blasted on twitter and the mess exhibited by russian drolls

    https://www.rt.com/news/446028-dorsey-myanmar-meditation-criticism/

    • Replies: @El Dato
    Which brings up the question: "Why should people bring up Rohyngias in this context?". The elimination drive is not uplifting and a sad thing but by God, is there any cultural connection at all? Henry Kissinger did not order it this time, so whose business is it really?
  79. Hero of our age

  80. @Prester John
    Once in a great while the mini-mallard gets it right---well, sort of anyway.

    I think the REAL TD doesn’t use a period. This isn’t l’anatra vera.

  81. @Tiny Duck
    Good

    This sends a message that hate speech and hate content, even if done "in comedy", will not be tolerated.


    The McGrath troll is only taken seriously by white ringers so stupid that they don't really know how progressives think.

    The truth is that conseravatives suck at humor and stuff like McGrath isn't funny.

    “The truth is that conseravatives suck at humor and stuff like McGrath isn’t funny.”

    That’s excellent! And funny.

  82. @GoldblattMD
    First Godfrey and now Titania! Dear God

    Several people have speculated the same person was behind both Godfrey and Titania. If true, I would assume he/she/they will be back with another account soon.

  83. @Anonymous
    Is Gab's UI as good as Twitter for reading, communicating, and disseminating? If not, can they mostly ape Titter on that without violating patent rights or copyright?

    I think its UI is about as good. Gab also was ahead of the curve in expanding the number of characters (to 300, I think) before Twitter doubled its characters from 140 to 280. But I log in maybe once per week, where as I look at Twitter every day. Twitter just as so much more interesting users now. Gab has Heartiste, and that’s the only one I can think of offhand.

  84. @Chrisnonymous
    Isn't the solution obvious? You make a cross between Twitter and a feed reader that allows to "re-tweet" cross-platform and be signed into one service while staying in touch with people from Twitter, Gab, or whatever.

    Gab already lets you automatically cross-post on Twitter.

    • Replies: @Chrisnonymous
    Can you subscribe to Twitter feeds and read them with Gab too? In that case, would you just stay signed into Gab rather than staying signed into Twitter and checking Gab once a week?
  85. @Reg Cæsar

    (if Trump ever went to Gab, he’d expand Gab’s user base by 10x).
     
    Why hasn't Trump been banned from Twitter? That's the shoe that hasn't dropped.

    If you want proof of their inconsistency, there it is.

    Because Twitter’s management isn’t completely stupid.

    Twitter never got to Facebook levels of mass-adoption, but what it did get was the press, the politicians, and other news makers.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    Because Twitter’s management isn’t completely stupid.

     

    So what? We should demand that they suspend Trump or reinstate the others to demonstrate their bona fides. Unless they do one or the other, they effectively confess to being BSers.

    And possibly frauds, in the literal legal sense.
  86. @jimmyriddle
    Jack Dorsey spent the last month in some silent retreat in a Burmese monastry. Burmese monks tend to take a Sentinelese attitude to diversity (at least as far as Muslims are concerned).

    Jack is nowhere near as woke as the saps who work for him.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6298961/Twitter-CEO-Jack-Dorsey-complains-tax-support-homeless-San-Francisco.html

    If they didn’t kill Dorsey during his retreat, then they clearly do not have the Sentinelese attitude to diversity.

  87. @Cagey Beast
    OT: Bernard Henri-Levy's website calls the Yellow Vests "white trash". Run it through the translator of your choice:

    Gilets Jaunes : Bienvenue dans la France White Trash !
    https://laregledujeu.org/2018/12/04/34628/gilets-jaunes-bienvenue-dans-la-france-white-trash/

    So is that website BHL’s unz.com?

    I agree with the author that demanding military takeover and beating up gays is less than appealing.

    Not to mention burning down high schools; I don’t know whether deluded kids joining in to protest against “education reforms” and hoping for sweet times on state money or “black block” left-wreckers did that but it’s completely retarded.

    I don’t agree with the author that left-wing cornucopia politics (until change to the Elysium universe has been locked in for good, presumably) is an acceptable course.

    The author also thinks that the change in fuel price doesn’t really matter, is peanuts and that we will be driving electric cars tomorrow in any case, the era of gas-fueled cars is over.

    Et quand bien même Emmanuel Macron serait décidé à agir, il pourrait mettre tous les efforts possibles dans cette entreprise, le combat serait tout de même perdu d’avance : l’ère du pétrole est révolue.

    I sense there will be a large amount of disappointment about that. Economic feasibility says no.

    Then joyous red troll Daniel Cohn Bendit is cited as claiming that in ’68 people were actually fighting against a general in power, not demanding that a general be put in power. I laugh. Back in ’68 Daniel Cohn Bendit was fighting for Daniel Cohn Bendit.

    Did I mention that being “pro-russian” is considered a negative quality? Of course.

  88. @El Dato
    in a self referential loop he then gets blasted on twitter and the mess exhibited by russian drolls


    https://www.rt.com/news/446028-dorsey-myanmar-meditation-criticism/

    Which brings up the question: “Why should people bring up Rohyngias in this context?”. The elimination drive is not uplifting and a sad thing but by God, is there any cultural connection at all? Henry Kissinger did not order it this time, so whose business is it really?

  89. @Tiny Duck.
    President Cuck will spend $750Bil. on the Pentagon, but where is that dang wall? What a disappointment, and how humorous the fools who still think he's "salvation"

    TD, I remember visiting the Wailing Wall in Jerusalem when I visited the “Holy Lands”. If we can get the Jewish community on board by telling them that “The Wall” is a prayer wall, construction will start within a week. No need for an environmental impact study.

  90. @Anonymammal
    >https://www.forbes.com/sites/travisbradberry/2015/02/10/new-study-shows-smoking-pot-permanently-lowers-iq/#513cdfa62f5b

    Not true, not true at all in all cases. Take me for example. I tested as a child to have an IQ of 157. A fellow-student at college bragged how he got 2 papers in mathematics published written behind dope. I eventually found out how helpful pot is to clear up one's thoughts. While writing my Ph.D. dissertation I sometimes/often lost the trail of the thought I was explaining. When I realized the trail was lost, smoking a joint suppressed short-term thinking and allowed one to think cosmically, so to speak. The starting point of the train of thought reappeared with clarity and one could return to writing at the point where one had gotten lost. To be sure, it took some 15 or 20 minutes before one's typing skills returned. But still and all. Couldn't have done it without weed, it being the Ph.D. diss. and 5 papers published in refereed journals and several more making the rounds of refereed journals. I recommend smoking pot in that context and see for yourself.

    I find pot useless for academic work. I find it just makes the simple appear profound. Enjoyable yes but it won’t pay the bills.

    It is hard to know what my brain would be like without having tried small amounts for a very brief period in my life. Possibly in the high IQ, it (and other psychadelics) allows a push towards the insane and towards also the genius. By screwing with the synapses, you allow the brain to generate more ideas, some crazy, some inspired genius, not all good, but the first step to generating good ideas is to brainstorm many new ones and the next step is to eliminate the unworkable ideas.

    Both of those steps have always been a strength of mine. It is hard to say if pot made any difference. But I am only one datapoint. No doubt drugs have have led to the creation of new music. The world is a better place I think for having the later Beatles albums IMO.

    • Replies: @Anonymammal
    >I find pot useless for academic work. I find it just makes the simple appear profound.

    I regret that you cannot exploit dope to help you write your papers. Or perhaps your academic work consists of meeting classes. In that case, I most strongly recommend NOT smoking dope before you meet your class. I discovered when a waiter that the cooks in the kitchen could smoke dope all day long because they have the orders pinned up in front of them. Try smoking dope and serving up the right dinner order to the right customer. Forget it!

    All I'm claiming for smoking a joint is that it temporarily suppresses short-term memory (bad for waiters). I believe that that fact is generally accepted in literature on the subject. Short-term memory is necessarily trivial (or it wouldn't be short-term) and it wells up so as to obscure serious long-term thought. Suppress it and you can get back to the point where your thinking about the subject you were addressing ran off the track.
  91. @YetAnotherAnon
    Another satire account, Bellingdog, which does for the Macronista Menace what Bellingcat does for the Putin Menace (and only existed for ten days) is gone, though back in new guise.

    There are a fair few satire accounts ripping into the Syria Narrative by applying it to France. This one's a parody of that woke 7 year old with good English skills (Bana Alebed?) who kept asking when the West would bomb Damascus and save her.

    https://twitter.com/abedoux

    AndrewR - what's needed is some kind of aggregator which links to both Gab and Twitter, allows people to see a Gab reply to a tweet. Have to think about how you'd tweet a reply to Gab.

  92. @Dave Pinsen
    Because Twitter's management isn't completely stupid.

    Twitter never got to Facebook levels of mass-adoption, but what it did get was the press, the politicians, and other news makers.

    Because Twitter’s management isn’t completely stupid.

    So what? We should demand that they suspend Trump or reinstate the others to demonstrate their bona fides. Unless they do one or the other, they effectively confess to being BSers.

    And possibly frauds, in the literal legal sense.

    • Replies: @AndrewR
    They've mentioned "newsworthiness" as a reason to not remove tweets that otherwise violate TOS.
  93. That’s a shame. She had a pretty voice:

  94. @Anonymous
    Is Gab's UI as good as Twitter for reading, communicating, and disseminating? If not, can they mostly ape Titter on that without violating patent rights or copyright?

    There’s no problem with intellectual property as long as the interface isn’t misleadingly similar.

  95. OT but too good to pass up: This is how The Nation describes Israel hoping and planning for the immigration of 200,000 middle class, educated, French Jews into Israel.

    “Israel To Accept 200,000 refugees from France”

    https://nation.com.pk/10-Dec-2018/israel-will-accept-200-000-refugees-from-france-reports

    If only we could get 200,000 college educated Englishmen, Canadians Australians and New Zealanders. Then we too could meet our refugee quota. Hell – make that 2 million.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    Typical of The Nation, they imply that the problem is right wing in nature. That is not who is victimizing Jews in Europe.
    , @Anonymous
    But this is not "The Nation" but "The Nation of Pakistan".
  96. I’m happy to report she seems to have been reinstated.

  97. @AndrewR
    I mean, everyone has different preferences. If you prefer a very laissez-faire experience, Gab would be a good choice for you, assuming its enemies don't get it banned from the internet. But I think a lot of people would prefer an alternative to both troll-paradise Gab and super-pozzed, Kafkaesque Twitter. Personally, I think it's much better to just remove a toxic user altogether from the site than force dozens/hundreds/thousands of that user's victims to mute or block them. Obviously not everyone agrees, although I think most of the people who disagree disagree because they love the freedom to be total scumbags online (I am not saying you fall into this category)

    To be precise, nobody who’s neither evil nor a complete moron agrees.

    The whole fucking point is that we don’t want some clown like you deciding who’s “toxic.”

    • Replies: @AndrewR
    Talking trash anonymously on the internet is neither brave nor productive. If I had to guess, you have been banned from many online communities for abusive behavior, and you take out your rage anonymously on anyone who dares suggest that maybe it's not the worst thing in the world to ban people from posting websites in response to abusive behavior.
  98. @Toño Bungay
    Wrong link? Don't see BHL there.

    It’s BHL’s publication.

  99. @Anonymous
    Is Gab's UI as good as Twitter for reading, communicating, and disseminating? If not, can they mostly ape Titter on that without violating patent rights or copyright?

    The Web UI is probably ok, but they’ve been blocked from shipping any apps for the iOS platform and have faced withdrawal of their app from the Android store.

    The Apple iTunes App Store and now the Google Android Play store stubbornly obstruct Gab from providing native mobile apps because Gab refuses to commit to censoring contributors energetically enough.

    https://www.theverge.com/2017/8/18/16166240/gab-google-play-removed-hate-speech

    Hard to say where the Silicon Valley censorship commissars’ influence ends. It’s turtles all the way down, or in this case fail whales.

  100. @Ibound1
    OT but too good to pass up: This is how The Nation describes Israel hoping and planning for the immigration of 200,000 middle class, educated, French Jews into Israel.

    "Israel To Accept 200,000 refugees from France"

    https://nation.com.pk/10-Dec-2018/israel-will-accept-200-000-refugees-from-france-reports

    If only we could get 200,000 college educated Englishmen, Canadians Australians and New Zealanders. Then we too could meet our refugee quota. Hell - make that 2 million.

    Typical of The Nation, they imply that the problem is right wing in nature. That is not who is victimizing Jews in Europe.

    • Agree: Ibound1
  101. @anonymous
    To be precise, nobody who's neither evil nor a complete moron agrees.


    The whole fucking point is that we don't want some clown like you deciding who's "toxic."

    Talking trash anonymously on the internet is neither brave nor productive. If I had to guess, you have been banned from many online communities for abusive behavior, and you take out your rage anonymously on anyone who dares suggest that maybe it’s not the worst thing in the world to ban people from posting websites in response to abusive behavior.

    • Replies: @Autochthon
    I agree it was a bit rude to call you a clown out of the blue, but the person's point – "Who's to say?" – stands. If, say, Mssrs. Sailer or Unz decide they don't like what a body writes and don't post it on their site, that's one thing; but if The Whole Point is to create an online public venue akin to the physical public square, then it's true that making anyone at all the arbiter of what is and isn't "toxic" or otherwise impermissible speech, writing, and ideas defeats the purpose.
  102. @SimpleSong
    Part of me thinks that if Torba can hold out for a while he may end up OK. He needs to improve the site from both a tech and culture standpoint, certainly. But here's how I see the future of Twitter playing out in a macro way:

    Twitter made no profit for a very, very long time, and is now making a very small profit. In terms of profit and revenue picture it is about four times as large as...wait for it.... Cheyenne Regional Medical Center in Cheyenne Wyoming. Well, slightly less than four times, actually. But hopefully that gives you a sense of relative scale.

    These companies are not as big and powerful as you think they are. They exist because they we are in a historical period with extremely low interest rates and very few opportunities for investment. Thus, any company that can spin a plausible growth story gets an absurd valuation.

    Twitter will eventually stop growing (possibly it already has.) Interest rates will eventually go back up (they already are.) When both of these things happen the stock starts looking like a normal-ish stock and becomes much less valuable than it is now. When this happens you can no longer compensate employees with stock options. When this happens you lose a lot of your technical talent. When this happens the user experience starts to degrade, and when this happens users go elsewhere. In my opinion twitter is not much of a natural monopoly, doesn't really have strong network effects, and the market can absolutely support several niche twitters.

    Torba can't tap into dumb money by spinning a growth story, this is his big disadvantage. But as soon as that dumb money disappears he ends up on a level playing field.

    Insightful comment. This is why I come to unz.com. Thank you.

  103. What was the deal that “Orcs are people too” guy ? He was just a troll but who was he trolling ? It seemed to me to be just a knockoff of the “Feminist Journal Accidentally Publishes Mein Kampf Chapter” troll . But more than a few right of center youtubers took it seriously .

  104. @Reg Cæsar

    Because Twitter’s management isn’t completely stupid.

     

    So what? We should demand that they suspend Trump or reinstate the others to demonstrate their bona fides. Unless they do one or the other, they effectively confess to being BSers.

    And possibly frauds, in the literal legal sense.

    They’ve mentioned “newsworthiness” as a reason to not remove tweets that otherwise violate TOS.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    None of Trump's tweets have been particularly newsworthy.
    , @AndrewR
    The ones that violate the TOS tend to be.

    I guess newsworthy is in the eye of the beholder. Some people couldn't tell you a single thing that was in the news last year while others could tell you a hundred things just from today. To use very recent examples, his tweet today spelling "smoking" as "smocking" [twice!] was rather newsworthy, as was his tweet calling Rex Tillerson lazy and dumb. These are not things any president of the United States did before Donald Trump
  105. @Anonym
    https://youtu.be/7zV78IgXzB0

    I find pot useless for academic work. I find it just makes the simple appear profound. Enjoyable yes but it won't pay the bills.

    It is hard to know what my brain would be like without having tried small amounts for a very brief period in my life. Possibly in the high IQ, it (and other psychadelics) allows a push towards the insane and towards also the genius. By screwing with the synapses, you allow the brain to generate more ideas, some crazy, some inspired genius, not all good, but the first step to generating good ideas is to brainstorm many new ones and the next step is to eliminate the unworkable ideas.

    Both of those steps have always been a strength of mine. It is hard to say if pot made any difference. But I am only one datapoint. No doubt drugs have have led to the creation of new music. The world is a better place I think for having the later Beatles albums IMO.

    >I find pot useless for academic work. I find it just makes the simple appear profound.

    I regret that you cannot exploit dope to help you write your papers. Or perhaps your academic work consists of meeting classes. In that case, I most strongly recommend NOT smoking dope before you meet your class. I discovered when a waiter that the cooks in the kitchen could smoke dope all day long because they have the orders pinned up in front of them. Try smoking dope and serving up the right dinner order to the right customer. Forget it!

    All I’m claiming for smoking a joint is that it temporarily suppresses short-term memory (bad for waiters). I believe that that fact is generally accepted in literature on the subject. Short-term memory is necessarily trivial (or it wouldn’t be short-term) and it wells up so as to obscure serious long-term thought. Suppress it and you can get back to the point where your thinking about the subject you were addressing ran off the track.

    • Replies: @Charles Erwin Wilson II

    Suppress it and you can get back to the point where your thinking about the subject you were addressing ran off the track.
     
    For a PhD you are surprisingly anecdotal. A recommendation based on one data point? Really?
  106. • Replies: @Yackity Yack

    “She” appears to be back.
     
    OMFG, that is SO ironic, isn't it?!!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jne9t8sHpUc
    , @Rosamond Vincy
    O frabjus day! Calloo callay!
    , @Hail

    some guy I met at a vipassana meditation put in a good word for me...
     
    https://twitter.com/JuliaHB1/status/1072251392243458051
  107. @AndrewR
    They've mentioned "newsworthiness" as a reason to not remove tweets that otherwise violate TOS.

    None of Trump’s tweets have been particularly newsworthy.

  108. @Dave Pinsen
    Gab already lets you automatically cross-post on Twitter.

    Can you subscribe to Twitter feeds and read them with Gab too? In that case, would you just stay signed into Gab rather than staying signed into Twitter and checking Gab once a week?

    • Replies: @Dave Pinsen
    I don’t think you can do that with Gab.
  109. @GermanReader2
    The stepbrother of one of my school friends was a habitual drug user (I think cocaine or heroine). According to my friend the doctors told his stepmother, that the drugs had permanently weakened the tissue in his brain (he said something about small holes in his brain tissue)

    Small holes in the brain caused by heavy amphetamine type drug use are called Olney Lesions.

  110. @YetAnotherAnon
    Another satire account, Bellingdog, which does for the Macronista Menace what Bellingcat does for the Putin Menace (and only existed for ten days) is gone, though back in new guise.

    There are a fair few satire accounts ripping into the Syria Narrative by applying it to France. This one's a parody of that woke 7 year old with good English skills (Bana Alebed?) who kept asking when the West would bomb Damascus and save her.

    https://twitter.com/abedoux

    AndrewR - what's needed is some kind of aggregator which links to both Gab and Twitter, allows people to see a Gab reply to a tweet. Have to think about how you'd tweet a reply to Gab.

    – what’s needed is some kind of aggregator which links to both Gab and Twitter, allows people to see a Gab reply to a tweet. Have to think about how you’d tweet a reply to Gab.

    See my exchange with Dave Pinsen above. We’ve got the same idea, but Dave seems to say it’s aleeady half-implemented in Gab.

  111. @AndrewR
    I never said I was doing more than Torba, and I praised him, so I'm not sure where your hostility came from. Just kidding.
    Actually I am pretty sure. Maybe I'll start my own blog like yours with like a dozen regular readers where I can post my self-hatred disguised as insightful political commentary. Have a great Monday!

    Can’t decide if I like earnest or grouchy AndrewR better.

    • Replies: @AndrewR
    Lol. Grouchy and earnest aren't mutually exclusive. I just think it's sad how many disagreeable personalities haunt this blog.
  112. @The Z Blog
    This is dumb.

    Torba is a hero. The guy has skin in the game and he is fighting an important fight. *You* are not doing anything.

    That said, no alternative to the approved platforms will be allowed, so Torba is fighting a losing battle. The coordination of Big Tech is now being followed by the coordinated efforts of Big Bank. That means you can put up a web site, but you can't run a business on-line, unless the people in charge approve.

    In the very near future, other services will get in on the act of de-platforming people. The big grocery chains will ban Richard Spencer from their stores. Credit card issuers will refuse to issue cards to blasphemers and heretics.

    “Torba is a hero. The guy has skin in the game and he is fighting an important fight.”

    Depends upon one’s perspective regarding his heroism.

    https://write.as/tyronejackson/the-vox-day-and-gab-controversy

    “Credit card issuers will refuse to issue cards to blasphemers and heretics.”

    Speaking of blasphemy, you once called Martin Luther (the 95 Theses dude) a pedophile.

    http://www.unz.com/isteve/two-definitions-of-democracy-rule-of-majority-vs-rule-by-the-democratic-party/#comment-2431896

    Refer to Comment 182. I asked you several times for a citation. You are making a strong charge here. Will you finally come clean?

    • Replies: @Bill Jones
    Blasphemy is
    https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/blasphemy

    " the act of insulting or showing contempt or lack of reverence for God"
    "for a mere man to suggest that he was … divine could only be viewed … as blasphemy"

    To suggest an insult to a man is blasphemy is, of course, blashemous.

    You moronic blaspemous troll you.
  113. @AndrewR
    Talking trash anonymously on the internet is neither brave nor productive. If I had to guess, you have been banned from many online communities for abusive behavior, and you take out your rage anonymously on anyone who dares suggest that maybe it's not the worst thing in the world to ban people from posting websites in response to abusive behavior.

    I agree it was a bit rude to call you a clown out of the blue, but the person’s point – “Who’s to say?” – stands. If, say, Mssrs. Sailer or Unz decide they don’t like what a body writes and don’t post it on their site, that’s one thing; but if The Whole Point is to create an online public venue akin to the physical public square, then it’s true that making anyone at all the arbiter of what is and isn’t “toxic” or otherwise impermissible speech, writing, and ideas defeats the purpose.

    • Replies: @AndrewR
    As long as you set pretty explicit guidelines and enforce them transparently and evenly, I don't see what the problem is. It's better than enforcement by "whim."

    Everyone knows the difference between civil speech and uncivil speech. If saying a certain thing in "the physical public square" would be likely to get you a punch to the jaw (by normal people, not just brawlers and grievance mongers), then saying it in the virtual public space should get you a ban. I don't think I'm asking that much here. Any idea should be allowed as long as it's expressed civilly and doesn't cross the bounds of legitimacy. You can't have people going around calling for [mass] murder even if it's technically legal to do so in some contexts.

  114. @Charles Pewitt

    Just a sapphic preacher at a podium dropping truth bombs to a silent audience.

     

    That is a beautiful sentence; balanced and rugged, either spoken or read.

    Let this day be forever more remembered as the day totalitarianism reached its high tide in European Christendom. Titania McGrath will be missed, but she'll be back and better than ever!

    Prime Minister Theresa May must think she has titanium balls to go along with her leopard print shoes if she thinks the English will not go ballistic if she keeps trying to screw them over.

    England Out Of The European Union Now!

    England Out Of The United Kingdom Now!

    The European Central Bank And The European Union Must be Destroyed!

    The answer to 1984 is 1066!

    Merry Christmas!

    I, for one, welcome our new Norse Overlords

  115. Eh , I’m bored with this thread . Remember when Conan used to be funny ? Well he still has some funny left :

  116. A red spot glows along the edge of the viewscreen — it is IVPITER, descending to electrify his fellow French language enthusiasts! Le Anon summarizes, and judges:

    The state is a 100% justified and will take all measures to stop the rioters, no excuses and no pardons for their behaviour.
    We must come [together] for the youth unity and immigrants, I will give you a pittance tax credit and remove taxes on overtime hours that we don’t pay you for anyway lmao.
    Also let me take a moment to remind you what a fantastic leader I am and all the things I’ve done for you ungrateful public.

    In a nutshell, what a [remarkably] absolute moron, again and again this [cockwombling] airhead picks the absolute worst possible option he can at any given time.

  117. @The Z Blog
    This is dumb.

    Torba is a hero. The guy has skin in the game and he is fighting an important fight. *You* are not doing anything.

    That said, no alternative to the approved platforms will be allowed, so Torba is fighting a losing battle. The coordination of Big Tech is now being followed by the coordinated efforts of Big Bank. That means you can put up a web site, but you can't run a business on-line, unless the people in charge approve.

    In the very near future, other services will get in on the act of de-platforming people. The big grocery chains will ban Richard Spencer from their stores. Credit card issuers will refuse to issue cards to blasphemers and heretics.

    But bakers will still have to bake cakes for sodomites.

  118. @Anon
    https://www.forbes.com/sites/travisbradberry/2015/02/10/new-study-shows-smoking-pot-permanently-lowers-iq/#513cdfa62f5b

    Uh-oh.

    Who did not already know* this?
    *I mean, AC, in the way that knowledge used to work (and probably should still), and not to a scientific standard of knowledge.

  119. @Cloudswrest
    "She" appears to be back.

    https://twitter.com/TitaniaMcGrath/status/1072248058082148353

    “She” appears to be back.

    OMFG, that is SO ironic, isn’t it?!!

  120. @Corvinus
    "Torba is a hero. The guy has skin in the game and he is fighting an important fight."

    Depends upon one's perspective regarding his heroism.

    https://write.as/tyronejackson/the-vox-day-and-gab-controversy

    "Credit card issuers will refuse to issue cards to blasphemers and heretics."

    Speaking of blasphemy, you once called Martin Luther (the 95 Theses dude) a pedophile.

    http://www.unz.com/isteve/two-definitions-of-democracy-rule-of-majority-vs-rule-by-the-democratic-party/#comment-2431896

    Refer to Comment 182. I asked you several times for a citation. You are making a strong charge here. Will you finally come clean?

    Blasphemy is
    https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/blasphemy

    ” the act of insulting or showing contempt or lack of reverence for God”
    “for a mere man to suggest that he was … divine could only be viewed … as blasphemy”

    To suggest an insult to a man is blasphemy is, of course, blashemous.

    You moronic blaspemous troll you.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
    "To suggest an insult to a man is blasphemy is, of course, blashemous. You moronic blaspemous troll you."

    LOL. I'm not the one who called Martin Luther, without evidence, a pedophile, The Z-Man blog made that accusation. So HE would be properly referred to as a blasphemer.

    Try to follow along with the cast of characters. You have the program in front of you.
    , @Charles Erwin Wilson II

    To suggest an insult to a man is blasphemy is, of course, blashemous.

    You moronic blaspemous troll you.
     
    Why are you trying to make Corvinus look good?
  121. @TWM
    First time that I've agreed with Tiny.

    Ich auch.

  122. @Cloudswrest
    "She" appears to be back.

    https://twitter.com/TitaniaMcGrath/status/1072248058082148353

    O frabjus day! Calloo callay!

  123. @L Woods
    Lower IQ can be a boon past a certain point. I won’t knock it.

    Lower IQ can be a boon past a certain point. I won’t knock it.

    Are stupid people happier? Is this where the adage “grinning like an idiot” comes from?

    • Replies: @L Woods
    They’re not only happier, but more successful by many of the metrics in life that actually matter. A mind too small to doubt (either the self or the narrative) has an enormous advantage in a society that insulates it from the consequences of its downsides.
  124. @Bill Jones
    Blasphemy is
    https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/blasphemy

    " the act of insulting or showing contempt or lack of reverence for God"
    "for a mere man to suggest that he was … divine could only be viewed … as blasphemy"

    To suggest an insult to a man is blasphemy is, of course, blashemous.

    You moronic blaspemous troll you.

    “To suggest an insult to a man is blasphemy is, of course, blashemous. You moronic blaspemous troll you.”

    LOL. I’m not the one who called Martin Luther, without evidence, a pedophile, The Z-Man blog made that accusation. So HE would be properly referred to as a blasphemer.

    Try to follow along with the cast of characters. You have the program in front of you.

    • Replies: @Cloudbuster
    You entirely misunderstood Bill Jones' point.
  125. Off topic, but has anyone noticed that Comey lately is beginning to look like Ramzpaul in disguise?

  126. https://www.vulture.com/2018/12/horror-is-not-defined-by-what-scares-you.html

    Anon said:
    >horror is not about being scared
    >comedy is not about being funny
    is this that cultural marxism I keep hearing about?

  127. @Anonymammal
    >I find pot useless for academic work. I find it just makes the simple appear profound.

    I regret that you cannot exploit dope to help you write your papers. Or perhaps your academic work consists of meeting classes. In that case, I most strongly recommend NOT smoking dope before you meet your class. I discovered when a waiter that the cooks in the kitchen could smoke dope all day long because they have the orders pinned up in front of them. Try smoking dope and serving up the right dinner order to the right customer. Forget it!

    All I'm claiming for smoking a joint is that it temporarily suppresses short-term memory (bad for waiters). I believe that that fact is generally accepted in literature on the subject. Short-term memory is necessarily trivial (or it wouldn't be short-term) and it wells up so as to obscure serious long-term thought. Suppress it and you can get back to the point where your thinking about the subject you were addressing ran off the track.

    Suppress it and you can get back to the point where your thinking about the subject you were addressing ran off the track.

    For a PhD you are surprisingly anecdotal. A recommendation based on one data point? Really?

  128. Anon[425] • Disclaimer says:

    The Christo-Formula seems to be the basis of much of PC and its idolization of the Jugromo(Judeo-Negro-Homo) Sanctimony.

    Consider this scene from MONTY PYTYHON’S LIFE OF BRIAN:

    What really sticks out is that the Holy Victim-Victor Group wants to be, at once, mollycoddled(or poli-coddled), bereaved, and worshiped. Baby-Victim-Victor or BVV Syndrome. Consider the mytho-legend and iconography of Jesus. There is Jesus as a cute and cuddly baby in all those paintings of the Madonna. People’s hearts go out to the darling little child. Then, there is Jesus as saint-prophet who was rejected and victimized by cruel & brutal humanity. People are made to feel guilt over His noble torment, death, and self-sacrifice. And then, there is Jesus as the returned champion, the King of kings, indeed none other than the Son of God.
    So, within the Christo-Formula universe, the faithful feel (1) protective compassion for the cute baby Jesus (2) profound guilt over the murdered Messiah and (3) ecstatic adoration of the King of kings, all-time spiritual champ. It appeals to several key aspects of human emotions.

    When we consider Homos(and Trannies) as members of the Holy Three(along with Jews and Negroes), we see a similar kind of emotional manipulation at play. The recent controversy at Columbia University with Nimesh Patel and the (East)Asian-Alliance well illustrates this phenomenon. The reaction of the ‘triggered’ yellow dogs seems contradictory. On the one hand, it’s as though they feel protective emotions over the weak, vulnerable, and cute-and-cuddly LGBTQXYZ community. Oh, those poor helpless ‘rainbow’ babies. They must be nestled in a crib and sung lullabies, goo. The homos and trannies have found a way to tug at the (oft-repressed)maternal instincts of the secular community(esp. among women who often put off motherhood). This is the passive babyish side of PC. Granted, babies are both helpless and ‘tyrannical’, i.e. they demand constant attention 24/7.

    Anyway, because of the ‘cute and cuddly’ aspect of LGBTQXYZ Idolatry, so many people have a tendency to view homos and trannies as little baby darlings that need constant love and protection. And woe unto anyone who doesn’t go along with this charade. Why, he’s like a child abuser!
    There is this with Jews and blacks too. Anne Frank is THE face of the Jewish Community after WWII. Just a sweet little girl who just wanted to have fun. What a cruel cruel world to deny her such. And Pop Culture has never lacked for the cute Negroling, such as Gary Coleman of DIFF’RENT STROKES and Emmanuel Lewis of WEBSTER. Many white people grew up looking at such darling Negro kibblers. And famous celebrities and cuckservatives like David French like to show off My Little Ebony like My Little Pony.

    This mollycoddly side of PC is very effective in eliciting protective maternal instincts. Jews certainly know how this psychology works. Even though they are the most powerful group in America, they use Anne-Frank iconography and pop culture narratives of nice little Jewish kids bullied by Big Dumb Nazi Polacks to garner protective sympathy. Jews know how to push the buttons of protective-maternal-instinct so as to make it seem as though ‘antisemitism’ is like Big Bad Goy picking on a tiny Jewish child.
    And even though so many problems of violence and criminality are caused by blacks, pop culture is saturated with images of too-good-to-be-true darling Negro kids with a glow about them. Or even fully grown Negroes are presented as possessing pure childlike souls, as with the mountain-sized Negro who wuvs a wittle white mouse in GREEN MILE. Even though he’s the size of an entire football team, we are to believe he has the soul of the kid on WEBSTER.

    And then, there is of course the Guilt Element when it comes to Jews, Negroes, and Homos. Just like Christianity says Jesus was the perfect Man who was wronged by a tyrannical empire and cruel mob, we are told that Jews, blacks, and homos were always the most wonderful people wronged by history and humanity. The entire history of Jews is presented to us as a narrative of the noblest & kindest people always having been set upon by bigoted goy populations. Jews were never wrong, and it was always the fault of the deranged goyim(especially white ones). And if you say different, you’re an ‘anti-Semite’, as bad as a child abuser(or even molester). And never mind black Africa was always dark and violent place. Oh no, blacks were always wonderful & noble and living in harmony with nature and each other… and if it weren’t for evil whitey, Africa might be one big Wakanda. Apparently, blacks have always been pure and noble, but Evil White ‘Racism’ caused all this harm to a perfect people(along with Jews).
    As for homos, they are angels, and Reagan and Jerry Falwell were to blame for the AIDS epidemic in the homo community that killed so many people. Just watch PHILADELPHIA and weep for pure-souled ‘gay baby-man’ who dies as a saint. AIDS was like Homocaust that spiraled out of control because of indifference and ‘homophobia’. Never mind all the sick orgies and homo fecal penetration done by homos.

    And then, there is the element of awe at the sheer power of Negroes, Homos, and Jews. Negroes dominate so much of pop music, sports, and sexual idolatry. They are the Official Heroes of every city during NBA and NFL seasons. French worship Negroes as demigods who won the World Cup. BBC propaganda promotes black-males as the rightful sexual owners of white women because white men are now to be demoted into dorky cucky-wuck losers vis-a-vis the more muscular and bigger-donged Negroes. As for Homos, why looky! They are so creative, so flamboyant, so colorful, and so celebratory of everything they do. They stoke our own vanity and narcissism by promoting self-celebration as the defining ‘value’ of the globo-homo 21st century. In our post-religious age, Homo-worship is THE central ‘spiritual’ experience for many secular urbanites. And even those who still attend churches love to decorate their churches with ‘gay’ colors.

    And the most awesome power of them all, the Jews! Jews are so powerful in finance, media & entertainment, law & courts, academia & think-tanks, vice industries(such as gambling), big pharma, high-tech, and Deep State(and Dark State). They are the makers and breakers of anyone and anything. They can even make a big-name personality like Alex Jones disappear from entire platforms. They can push a button and make US politicians whore out to Israel and turn much of the Middle East upside down with Wars for Israel. They can bring back the ‘cold war’ with Russia just because they hate Russia. They can make the US enforce sanctions against Iran and send billions in aid to Israel even though Iran allows inspections and has no nukes whereas Israel stole American uranium and has 300 nukes. They can shut down Free Speech with lawfare against ‘hate speech'(to be determined by ADL and SPLC, both Jewish-funded groups). They can make every nation erect Shoah Monuments and worship ‘Holocaust-Survivors’ as bigger than God and Jesus. That is some power.

    Now, people have a Will to Cower, and countless minions kneel at the Altar of Power. But there is also a natural tendency of people to fear power, worry about power, distrust power, feel envy about power, and speak truth to power… and rise up against power. So, power merely as awesomeness is vulnerable. Paradoxically, power is even more powerful when the awesomeness is associated with emotions of guilt and coddle. This was the genius of the Christo-Formula, one reason why Christian Power lasted for so long. It played on all three key emotions of menfolk(and womenfolk): Affection & tenderness for something cute-and-cuddly, Guilt & Remorse for Purity-and-Nobility, and Awe for the Power. And even though these emotions are different(and even contradictory), they reinforced one another as an Iron Triangle.

    And now, PC has appropriated the Christo-Formula for the Jugromo trinity. So, those Asian students at Columbia were emoting and acting on three levels. They were sucking up to the Cult of Awesome Negroes and Tremendous Trannies; they were servile dogs of the Power and Prestige. But they were also acting in accordance to instilled guilt associated with holy Homos and noble Negroes. And, finally, their maternal instincts kicked into gear as they’d grown accustomed to regarding Homos/Trannies and Negroes as precious little babies whose cribs need to be protected from the scary howls of the Big Bad Bogeyman.

  129. @Bill Jones
    Blasphemy is
    https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/blasphemy

    " the act of insulting or showing contempt or lack of reverence for God"
    "for a mere man to suggest that he was … divine could only be viewed … as blasphemy"

    To suggest an insult to a man is blasphemy is, of course, blashemous.

    You moronic blaspemous troll you.

    To suggest an insult to a man is blasphemy is, of course, blashemous.

    You moronic blaspemous troll you.

    Why are you trying to make Corvinus look good?

  130. @Forbes
    This is TD with a period (".")--as in "Tiny Duck."--the the real thing.

    A different troll.

    A different troll.

    But where is the lie?

    Tiny Duck 2.0 sez:

    $750Bil. on the Pentagon, but where is that dang wall? What a disappointment

  131. @Lot
    Can't decide if I like earnest or grouchy AndrewR better.

    Lol. Grouchy and earnest aren’t mutually exclusive. I just think it’s sad how many disagreeable personalities haunt this blog.

    • Replies: @Cloudbuster
    Not to praise or condemn anyone specifically, but I have a general intuition that disagreeableness is positively correlated with high intelligence.... (searches). Ah, and here's some evidence.

    https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2006/08/060811092500.htm

    Apparently being a smart, cantankerous old fart is a thing!
  132. Anon[410] • Disclaimer says:

    Given that “she” is pseudonymous, the best way for Twitter to 86 the account would be to hijack it and have staff write it, making it more and more unfunny and trite. Fans would say, “She’s lost her mojo,” and leave. In the end Twitter could have her leave a “Sod off, you ingrates” message, and close the account.

    The real author could not effectively complain, since “she” is pseudonymous and anyone claiming to be her would be doubted.

  133. @Autochthon
    I agree it was a bit rude to call you a clown out of the blue, but the person's point – "Who's to say?" – stands. If, say, Mssrs. Sailer or Unz decide they don't like what a body writes and don't post it on their site, that's one thing; but if The Whole Point is to create an online public venue akin to the physical public square, then it's true that making anyone at all the arbiter of what is and isn't "toxic" or otherwise impermissible speech, writing, and ideas defeats the purpose.

    As long as you set pretty explicit guidelines and enforce them transparently and evenly, I don’t see what the problem is. It’s better than enforcement by “whim.”

    Everyone knows the difference between civil speech and uncivil speech. If saying a certain thing in “the physical public square” would be likely to get you a punch to the jaw (by normal people, not just brawlers and grievance mongers), then saying it in the virtual public space should get you a ban. I don’t think I’m asking that much here. Any idea should be allowed as long as it’s expressed civilly and doesn’t cross the bounds of legitimacy. You can’t have people going around calling for [mass] murder even if it’s technically legal to do so in some contexts.

    • Replies: @Autochthon
    Perhaps you've not been paying attention to how standards of what is and is not "civil" as understood by "a normal person" nowadays in actual practice.

    "The war and economic refugees are flooding our country. They bring terror, fear, sorrow. They rape our women and put our children at risk,” which along with a German flag as the groups profile photo, was enough to bring the couple to court for hate speech.
     
    If you think whatever system you envision would not be susceptible to the same kind of creeping tyranny, you are, as the unidentified person wrote, evil, or stupid, or both.

    The phrase "Congress shall make no law" was absolute for very wise reasons.


    If

  134. @AndrewR
    They've mentioned "newsworthiness" as a reason to not remove tweets that otherwise violate TOS.

    The ones that violate the TOS tend to be.

    I guess newsworthy is in the eye of the beholder. Some people couldn’t tell you a single thing that was in the news last year while others could tell you a hundred things just from today. To use very recent examples, his tweet today spelling “smoking” as “smocking” [twice!] was rather newsworthy, as was his tweet calling Rex Tillerson lazy and dumb. These are not things any president of the United States did before Donald Trump

  135. @Charles Erwin Wilson II

    Lower IQ can be a boon past a certain point. I won’t knock it.
     
    Are stupid people happier? Is this where the adage "grinning like an idiot" comes from?

    They’re not only happier, but more successful by many of the metrics in life that actually matter. A mind too small to doubt (either the self or the narrative) has an enormous advantage in a society that insulates it from the consequences of its downsides.

  136. @Cloudswrest
    "She" appears to be back.

    https://twitter.com/TitaniaMcGrath/status/1072248058082148353

    some guy I met at a vipassana meditation put in a good word for me…

    • Replies: @Dave Pinsen
    It's an allusion to Jack Dorsey's birthday trip.

    https://twitter.com/jack/status/1071575088695140353
  137. @Ibound1
    OT but too good to pass up: This is how The Nation describes Israel hoping and planning for the immigration of 200,000 middle class, educated, French Jews into Israel.

    "Israel To Accept 200,000 refugees from France"

    https://nation.com.pk/10-Dec-2018/israel-will-accept-200-000-refugees-from-france-reports

    If only we could get 200,000 college educated Englishmen, Canadians Australians and New Zealanders. Then we too could meet our refugee quota. Hell - make that 2 million.

    But this is not “The Nation” but “The Nation of Pakistan”.

  138. @Sandmich
    OT, still waiting for "Angry Bitch" frames for glasses to fall out of fashion.

    That will happen when angry bitches fall out of fashion. I.e., never.

  139. @AndrewR
    As long as you set pretty explicit guidelines and enforce them transparently and evenly, I don't see what the problem is. It's better than enforcement by "whim."

    Everyone knows the difference between civil speech and uncivil speech. If saying a certain thing in "the physical public square" would be likely to get you a punch to the jaw (by normal people, not just brawlers and grievance mongers), then saying it in the virtual public space should get you a ban. I don't think I'm asking that much here. Any idea should be allowed as long as it's expressed civilly and doesn't cross the bounds of legitimacy. You can't have people going around calling for [mass] murder even if it's technically legal to do so in some contexts.

    Perhaps you’ve not been paying attention to how standards of what is and is not “civil” as understood by “a normal person” nowadays in actual practice.

    “The war and economic refugees are flooding our country. They bring terror, fear, sorrow. They rape our women and put our children at risk,” which along with a German flag as the groups profile photo, was enough to bring the couple to court for hate speech.

    If you think whatever system you envision would not be susceptible to the same kind of creeping tyranny, you are, as the unidentified person wrote, evil, or stupid, or both.

    The phrase “Congress shall make no law” was absolute for very wise reasons.

    If

    • Agree: Cloudbuster
    • LOL: AndrewR
    • Replies: @AndrewR
    Well I think you're a big poopyhead too
    , @AndrewR
    Now that we have hopefully gotten the childish insults out of the way, I'll address your ridiculous argument.

    The fact that Germany, which has never been nearly as libertarian as the US, has authoritarian speech laws doesn't have anything to do with the US. In the IS we have what's called the first amendment which gives broad protection to speech. No court in the US would convict someone over the comment you cited. Although, to be fair, and I hope this doesn't trigger you into insulting me again [use your big boy words instead] I think the comment you cited could possibly fall under some sort of libel. It lumps all migrants together, not all of whom are guilty of the charges made in the comment. It would certainly be better if it said "many of them" instead of "they." I do think many people need to be more careful about their word choices in order to avoid painting with too broad of a brush and/or inciting harassment/violence against an individual or a group of people, although reasonable people can disagree on the role the government should play in this. In any event, I would like to see a free market in which there were many twitter-type sites, all with different rules and policies, and people could choose for themselves what they wanted. My initial comment only outlined what I think would be most successful.

  140. All of these liberal platforms including newspapers, TV networks, Twitter, Facebook, etc. have a certain built in market in that there is now a large part of the population that wants to be ignorant. There is increasing danger in knowing certain things and having certain thoughts and having pre-masticated news means not having to live under the constant threat of being unpersoned, fired, or de-platformed. Not only is the NYT all the news that is fit to print, it is fit to mention in public and not get in trouble.

  141. @Hail

    some guy I met at a vipassana meditation put in a good word for me...
     
    https://twitter.com/JuliaHB1/status/1072251392243458051

    It’s an allusion to Jack Dorsey’s birthday trip.

    • Replies: @Hail

    Pyin Oo Lwin, Myanmar
     
    The less pronounceable, the more authentic.
  142. @Chrisnonymous
    Can you subscribe to Twitter feeds and read them with Gab too? In that case, would you just stay signed into Gab rather than staying signed into Twitter and checking Gab once a week?

    I don’t think you can do that with Gab.

  143. @Anonymammal
    >https://www.forbes.com/sites/travisbradberry/2015/02/10/new-study-shows-smoking-pot-permanently-lowers-iq/#513cdfa62f5b

    Not true, not true at all in all cases. Take me for example. I tested as a child to have an IQ of 157. A fellow-student at college bragged how he got 2 papers in mathematics published written behind dope. I eventually found out how helpful pot is to clear up one's thoughts. While writing my Ph.D. dissertation I sometimes/often lost the trail of the thought I was explaining. When I realized the trail was lost, smoking a joint suppressed short-term thinking and allowed one to think cosmically, so to speak. The starting point of the train of thought reappeared with clarity and one could return to writing at the point where one had gotten lost. To be sure, it took some 15 or 20 minutes before one's typing skills returned. But still and all. Couldn't have done it without weed, it being the Ph.D. diss. and 5 papers published in refereed journals and several more making the rounds of refereed journals. I recommend smoking pot in that context and see for yourself.

    Yet you’re not smart enough to realize that an anecdotal example doesn’t refute a 38-year longitudinal study of 1038 individuals. “Not true. Not true at all in all cases” is a hilarious series of hedges. We go from an emphatic “Not true,” which plainly flies in the face of the evidence to “Not true at all in all cases,” which is a completely different thing, and isn’t at odds with the study.

    Still, you’re making the same assertion one would be making if one tried to refute a study that smoking has a causal link to lung cancer by saying “Nuh-uh! I had a grandfather who smoked all his life, lived to 90 and died having sex with a supermodel!”

    I’d be concerned your pot smoking has had a profound negative affect on that supposed 157 IQ.. Average IQ of people with a Ph.D. is about 125. Your IQ of 157 should have allowed you to, comparatively, breeze through the process, as least as far as the raw brain power required. I think it’s obvious that many, many Ph.D. candidates — probably many with IQs far below 157 — complete their work without the “aid” of marijuana.

    It’s plausible to suggest that you simply had a lot of IQ to lose, so the visible effects are minimal in your life. The study said IQ loss was about 8 points. If you were 157 and lost 8 points, your resulting 149 IQ still puts you well in the genius range. I’m also assuming 8 points is an average — you may have been on the extreme end of the curve and only lost a point, which wouldn’t even be detectable. That still doesn’t negate the study. The study also says IQ loss was most detectable among heavy users prior to age 18 — that doesn’t seem to correlate with the usage you describe, as you would have been several years older when pursuing your Ph.D. and I can’t tell whether your use would qualify as “heavy.”

    In summary, you give a knee-jerk, strawman “rebuttal” that’s unworthy of a Ph.D. with a 157 IQ. It’s not only irrelevant, but irresponsible; if your explanation and advice were taken seriously by younger, less intelligent pot smokers, you’d be complicit in leading them into a profoundly harmful behavior.
    You should be concerned.

    https://brainsize.wordpress.com/2014/07/12/the-iqs-of-academic-elites/

    https://brainsize.wordpress.com/2014/06/02/iq-years-of-education/

    • Replies: @Anonymammal
    Cloudbuster writes "Yet you’re not smart enough to realize that an anecdotal example doesn’t refute a 38-year longitudinal study of 1038 individuals. “Not true. Not true at all in all cases” is a hilarious series of hedges. We go from an emphatic “Not true,” which plainly flies in the face of the evidence to “Not true at all in all cases,” which is a completely different thing, and isn’t at odds with the study."

    I am gratified that my original post elicited your angry rebuttal. Your argument is not improved by impugning my smarts. FYI: no pot smoking during the years it took to satisfy the requirements for a Ph.D. It was only when writing my dissertation that I discovered the sequence I originally described: losing the drift of the argument, smoking a joint, short-term memory loss permitting the main line of argument to be recovered, 15 to 20 minute impairment of typing skills and then back on track. Anecdote, yes but also a data point. As for that putative IQ of 157, I was given that figure as the result of the tests schoolchildren took. As there seemed to be no correlative to my academic standing—this was in grade school—I placed that "fact" in the basket of inexpliquables where it remains to this day. The Forbes article cited claimed that pot smoking lowered IQ. I doubt it on the basis of my personal experience. Social scientists, perhaps with a parti pris in the matter, studied some thousands of individuals for 38 years, handing on the study as social scientists retired and others came on board. Hard to take seriously. "If seven maids with seven mops swept for a half a year, do you suppose, the walrus said, that they could get it clear?"
  144. @Corvinus
    "To suggest an insult to a man is blasphemy is, of course, blashemous. You moronic blaspemous troll you."

    LOL. I'm not the one who called Martin Luther, without evidence, a pedophile, The Z-Man blog made that accusation. So HE would be properly referred to as a blasphemer.

    Try to follow along with the cast of characters. You have the program in front of you.

    You entirely misunderstood Bill Jones’ point.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
    "You entirely misunderstood Bill Jones’ point."

    No, I understood it completely. But, just for kicks, why don't you explain it for everyone?
  145. @AndrewR
    Lol. Grouchy and earnest aren't mutually exclusive. I just think it's sad how many disagreeable personalities haunt this blog.

    Not to praise or condemn anyone specifically, but I have a general intuition that disagreeableness is positively correlated with high intelligence…. (searches). Ah, and here’s some evidence.

    https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2006/08/060811092500.htm

    Apparently being a smart, cantankerous old fart is a thing!

    • Replies: @AndrewR
    It's one thing to refuse to go along with the stupidity of the crowd, but one can refuse politely. Compare "no, two plus two is not five" vs. "no, two plus two is not five, idiot." The latter not only adds nothing to the discussion, it decreases (if not eliminates) the chance that any persuasion will occur, and it causes needless animosity which may have any number of undesireable side effects.
  146. @Autochthon
    Perhaps you've not been paying attention to how standards of what is and is not "civil" as understood by "a normal person" nowadays in actual practice.

    "The war and economic refugees are flooding our country. They bring terror, fear, sorrow. They rape our women and put our children at risk,” which along with a German flag as the groups profile photo, was enough to bring the couple to court for hate speech.
     
    If you think whatever system you envision would not be susceptible to the same kind of creeping tyranny, you are, as the unidentified person wrote, evil, or stupid, or both.

    The phrase "Congress shall make no law" was absolute for very wise reasons.


    If

    Well I think you’re a big poopyhead too

  147. @Cloudbuster
    Not to praise or condemn anyone specifically, but I have a general intuition that disagreeableness is positively correlated with high intelligence.... (searches). Ah, and here's some evidence.

    https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2006/08/060811092500.htm

    Apparently being a smart, cantankerous old fart is a thing!

    It’s one thing to refuse to go along with the stupidity of the crowd, but one can refuse politely. Compare “no, two plus two is not five” vs. “no, two plus two is not five, idiot.” The latter not only adds nothing to the discussion, it decreases (if not eliminates) the chance that any persuasion will occur, and it causes needless animosity which may have any number of undesireable side effects.

  148. @Anon
    https://www.forbes.com/sites/travisbradberry/2015/02/10/new-study-shows-smoking-pot-permanently-lowers-iq/#513cdfa62f5b

    Uh-oh.

    One of our neighbor’s daughters was a heroin+ addict in high school. She prostituted herself to fund her habits. After graduation, she became a stripper. Along the way, she birthed two children without benefit-of-husbands. With her parent’s help, the daughter finally cleaned up her act and miraculously earned a university degree.

    We had occasional contact with the daughter as she came and went over the years. One day she was trying to fit a mattress into the back of a small SUV. It was clear to the naked eye that it wouldn’t fit … way too big. It was like trying to fit a square peg into a round hole. Nonetheless, the daughter tried and tried. She became frustrated and emotional. “I know it will fit; it has to fit!”

    Her mother sauntered outside as she sauntered in. “I think the drugs permanently affected her mind.” You think?

    It will become a more interesting world as drugs are progressively legalized and popularized … society’s seal of approval.

  149. @Autochthon
    Perhaps you've not been paying attention to how standards of what is and is not "civil" as understood by "a normal person" nowadays in actual practice.

    "The war and economic refugees are flooding our country. They bring terror, fear, sorrow. They rape our women and put our children at risk,” which along with a German flag as the groups profile photo, was enough to bring the couple to court for hate speech.
     
    If you think whatever system you envision would not be susceptible to the same kind of creeping tyranny, you are, as the unidentified person wrote, evil, or stupid, or both.

    The phrase "Congress shall make no law" was absolute for very wise reasons.


    If

    Now that we have hopefully gotten the childish insults out of the way, I’ll address your ridiculous argument.

    The fact that Germany, which has never been nearly as libertarian as the US, has authoritarian speech laws doesn’t have anything to do with the US. In the IS we have what’s called the first amendment which gives broad protection to speech. No court in the US would convict someone over the comment you cited. Although, to be fair, and I hope this doesn’t trigger you into insulting me again [use your big boy words instead] I think the comment you cited could possibly fall under some sort of libel. It lumps all migrants together, not all of whom are guilty of the charges made in the comment. It would certainly be better if it said “many of them” instead of “they.” I do think many people need to be more careful about their word choices in order to avoid painting with too broad of a brush and/or inciting harassment/violence against an individual or a group of people, although reasonable people can disagree on the role the government should play in this. In any event, I would like to see a free market in which there were many twitter-type sites, all with different rules and policies, and people could choose for themselves what they wanted. My initial comment only outlined what I think would be most successful.

    • Replies: @Autochthon
    I didn't cite the German example to discuss comparative government or sociology, dumbass; it stands as an example of the now commonly accepted idea – in the F.U.S.A., Canada, Germany, France, Britain, Australia, the Netherlands, Belgium, Sweden, and almost any other such nation you may mention – that writing things like the perfectly reasonable and inarguably civil things the German couple wrote constitutes incivility, and the related, broader notion some such things simply should not be permitted to be voiced at all, which is exactly what one sees with PayPal, Twitter, Facebook, Apple, and other corporations who remove ideas they disapprove of from their platforms, refuse to process financial transactions for the purveyors of ideas they dislike, and so on. Any platform similar to Twitter which similarly exercises censorship about so-called incivility will fall into the same tyrannical, partisan horror-show the German couple fell prey to.

    If a man says to believe this or that unsound idea is evil or stupid, the man has not said the believer in the idea is evil or stupid; indeed, the man is demonstrably placing faith in the believer's ability to reason by presenting his arguments against the unsound idea. I'm calling you a dumbass because you decided this exchange should include ad hominem insults, and because you cannot follow a simple argument by analogy without having each aspect of the thing explained in stultifying detail unnecessary for the Cloudbuster, the anonymous person you initially accused of "talking trash," and, I'll warrant, the majority of other readers.

    By the by: Are you familiar with psychological projection? You could stand to be.
  150. @Cloudbuster
    Yet you're not smart enough to realize that an anecdotal example doesn't refute a 38-year longitudinal study of 1038 individuals. "Not true. Not true at all in all cases" is a hilarious series of hedges. We go from an emphatic "Not true," which plainly flies in the face of the evidence to "Not true at all in all cases," which is a completely different thing, and isn't at odds with the study.

    Still, you're making the same assertion one would be making if one tried to refute a study that smoking has a causal link to lung cancer by saying "Nuh-uh! I had a grandfather who smoked all his life, lived to 90 and died having sex with a supermodel!"

    I'd be concerned your pot smoking has had a profound negative affect on that supposed 157 IQ.. Average IQ of people with a Ph.D. is about 125. Your IQ of 157 should have allowed you to, comparatively, breeze through the process, as least as far as the raw brain power required. I think it's obvious that many, many Ph.D. candidates -- probably many with IQs far below 157 -- complete their work without the "aid" of marijuana.

    It's plausible to suggest that you simply had a lot of IQ to lose, so the visible effects are minimal in your life. The study said IQ loss was about 8 points. If you were 157 and lost 8 points, your resulting 149 IQ still puts you well in the genius range. I'm also assuming 8 points is an average -- you may have been on the extreme end of the curve and only lost a point, which wouldn't even be detectable. That still doesn't negate the study. The study also says IQ loss was most detectable among heavy users prior to age 18 -- that doesn't seem to correlate with the usage you describe, as you would have been several years older when pursuing your Ph.D. and I can't tell whether your use would qualify as "heavy."

    In summary, you give a knee-jerk, strawman "rebuttal" that's unworthy of a Ph.D. with a 157 IQ. It's not only irrelevant, but irresponsible; if your explanation and advice were taken seriously by younger, less intelligent pot smokers, you'd be complicit in leading them into a profoundly harmful behavior.
    You should be concerned.

    https://brainsize.wordpress.com/2014/07/12/the-iqs-of-academic-elites/

    https://brainsize.wordpress.com/2014/06/02/iq-years-of-education/

    Cloudbuster writes “Yet you’re not smart enough to realize that an anecdotal example doesn’t refute a 38-year longitudinal study of 1038 individuals. “Not true. Not true at all in all cases” is a hilarious series of hedges. We go from an emphatic “Not true,” which plainly flies in the face of the evidence to “Not true at all in all cases,” which is a completely different thing, and isn’t at odds with the study.”

    I am gratified that my original post elicited your angry rebuttal. Your argument is not improved by impugning my smarts. FYI: no pot smoking during the years it took to satisfy the requirements for a Ph.D. It was only when writing my dissertation that I discovered the sequence I originally described: losing the drift of the argument, smoking a joint, short-term memory loss permitting the main line of argument to be recovered, 15 to 20 minute impairment of typing skills and then back on track. Anecdote, yes but also a data point. As for that putative IQ of 157, I was given that figure as the result of the tests schoolchildren took. As there seemed to be no correlative to my academic standing—this was in grade school—I placed that “fact” in the basket of inexpliquables where it remains to this day. The Forbes article cited claimed that pot smoking lowered IQ. I doubt it on the basis of my personal experience. Social scientists, perhaps with a parti pris in the matter, studied some thousands of individuals for 38 years, handing on the study as social scientists retired and others came on board. Hard to take seriously. “If seven maids with seven mops swept for a half a year, do you suppose, the walrus said, that they could get it clear?”

    • Replies: @Cloudbuster
    The Forbes article cited claimed that pot smoking lowered IQ.

    That's not what the Forbes article or the study it cites says.
  151. @Anon
    https://www.forbes.com/sites/travisbradberry/2015/02/10/new-study-shows-smoking-pot-permanently-lowers-iq/#513cdfa62f5b

    Uh-oh.

    “Smoking pot permanently lowers IQ”

    Why do you suppose they call it “dope”? Have you ever heard anyone call it “smart”?

    • Replies: @Autochthon
    Worthy of being one of Gallagher's cornier quips.
  152. @Anonymous
    I want a time machine!
    https://youtu.be/er4ab2RzaEo

    1940s and 1950s Californians did not have enough children, and did not teach the ones they did have, to preserve their paradise.

    The future is fertile.

    • Replies: @Cloudbuster
    No, it's all about immigration. The Hispanic population that existed in California in the '40s would not have outbred the White population. The demographic change is entirely due to immigration.
  153. @Anonymous
    Yes, no one seems to know that pot can cause brain damage. In fact, many people these days think pot is some kind of miracle cure-all for just about everything.

    Yes, no one seems to know that pot can cause brain damage.

    If you want proof that pot can cause brain damage just look at the way society has gone down the toilet since the rise of the drug culture.

    When Americans drank bourbon and smoked cigarettes they put men on the Moon.

    • LOL: Harry Baldwin
  154. I’m disturbed by the lack of support for Gab on the alt-right. So many right wing Americans have a psychology of defeatism and inaction. It’s great to have a space like Gab. Don’t worry so much about competing with twitter right now. Build for the long term and take joy in small steps. See every blow we strike as a small victory.

    We have to develop a culture of action, optimism and participation. The alt-right made progress by learning from the left’s tactics and thinking. Since Trump was elected, the whole alt-right has backslid into boomer fatalism and passivity.

    Trump is serving as a conduit for boomer cucks to influence the alt-right just as much as for the alt-right to influence boomer cucks.

  155. @Dave Pinsen
    I’m not sure Gab’s problem is its lack of moderation, though it’s hard to imagine a counterfactual. Twitter has a first mover advantage, which gave it the famous users, and it has ~50x as many users overall, and that’s its current moat. Gab mostly has right wingers who’ve been banned from Twitter.

    When Twitter bans a Titania McGrath, it shrinks its moat a tiny bit; if she went to Gab, she’s draw a few users with her (if Trump ever went to Gab, he’d expand Gab’s user base by 10x).

    Agree

  156. @AndrewR
    I mean, everyone has different preferences. If you prefer a very laissez-faire experience, Gab would be a good choice for you, assuming its enemies don't get it banned from the internet. But I think a lot of people would prefer an alternative to both troll-paradise Gab and super-pozzed, Kafkaesque Twitter. Personally, I think it's much better to just remove a toxic user altogether from the site than force dozens/hundreds/thousands of that user's victims to mute or block them. Obviously not everyone agrees, although I think most of the people who disagree disagree because they love the freedom to be total scumbags online (I am not saying you fall into this category)

    “… everyone has different preferences. … a lot of people would prefer…”

    Sure. But the point about network effects is that your preferences don’t matter. The network has an inertia of its own.

    You might have preferred a different phone system in the 1960s, say one where–like a visitor to your front door–you could see who was calling before answering. But that didn’t matter. The 1960s “blind caller” phone system was already built and people were already using it. Everyone had a phone number and everyone knew the numbers on that system. Did the technical possibility of a better system exist? Sure, but the existing system was already built and in use. In fact, the improvement–Caller ID–eventually did get integrated, if you didn’t mind waiting 30 or 40 years. And even then, easy spoofing has partially negated Caller ID’s benefit.

    Obviously, Twitter’s infrastructure, both material and social, has less inertia than the 1960s phone system, but it is not zero. So maybe you don’t have to wait 30 or 40 years for an improvement. Maybe only 10 or 15. Buuuut, the 20th century phone system was owned, run and regulated by more or less agnostic sane people. Twitter is owned, run and regulated by fanatic, insane vipassana meditators. So YMMV on whether they see your “improvement” as desirable or not.

  157. @AndrewR
    Now that we have hopefully gotten the childish insults out of the way, I'll address your ridiculous argument.

    The fact that Germany, which has never been nearly as libertarian as the US, has authoritarian speech laws doesn't have anything to do with the US. In the IS we have what's called the first amendment which gives broad protection to speech. No court in the US would convict someone over the comment you cited. Although, to be fair, and I hope this doesn't trigger you into insulting me again [use your big boy words instead] I think the comment you cited could possibly fall under some sort of libel. It lumps all migrants together, not all of whom are guilty of the charges made in the comment. It would certainly be better if it said "many of them" instead of "they." I do think many people need to be more careful about their word choices in order to avoid painting with too broad of a brush and/or inciting harassment/violence against an individual or a group of people, although reasonable people can disagree on the role the government should play in this. In any event, I would like to see a free market in which there were many twitter-type sites, all with different rules and policies, and people could choose for themselves what they wanted. My initial comment only outlined what I think would be most successful.

    I didn’t cite the German example to discuss comparative government or sociology, dumbass; it stands as an example of the now commonly accepted idea – in the F.U.S.A., Canada, Germany, France, Britain, Australia, the Netherlands, Belgium, Sweden, and almost any other such nation you may mention – that writing things like the perfectly reasonable and inarguably civil things the German couple wrote constitutes incivility, and the related, broader notion some such things simply should not be permitted to be voiced at all, which is exactly what one sees with PayPal, Twitter, Facebook, Apple, and other corporations who remove ideas they disapprove of from their platforms, refuse to process financial transactions for the purveyors of ideas they dislike, and so on. Any platform similar to Twitter which similarly exercises censorship about so-called incivility will fall into the same tyrannical, partisan horror-show the German couple fell prey to.

    If a man says to believe this or that unsound idea is evil or stupid, the man has not said the believer in the idea is evil or stupid; indeed, the man is demonstrably placing faith in the believer’s ability to reason by presenting his arguments against the unsound idea. I’m calling you a dumbass because you decided this exchange should include ad hominem insults, and because you cannot follow a simple argument by analogy without having each aspect of the thing explained in stultifying detail unnecessary for the Cloudbuster, the anonymous person you initially accused of “talking trash,” and, I’ll warrant, the majority of other readers.

    By the by: Are you familiar with psychological projection? You could stand to be.

    • Replies: @AndrewR
    Would you like a hug, champ? Mommy and Daddy may not love you but I do.
  158. @Joe Bloggs
    "Smoking pot permanently lowers IQ"

    Why do you suppose they call it "dope"? Have you ever heard anyone call it "smart"?

    Worthy of being one of Gallagher’s cornier quips.

  159. @Joe Bloggs
    1940s and 1950s Californians did not have enough children, and did not teach the ones they did have, to preserve their paradise.

    The future is fertile.

    No, it’s all about immigration. The Hispanic population that existed in California in the ’40s would not have outbred the White population. The demographic change is entirely due to immigration.

  160. @Anonymammal
    Cloudbuster writes "Yet you’re not smart enough to realize that an anecdotal example doesn’t refute a 38-year longitudinal study of 1038 individuals. “Not true. Not true at all in all cases” is a hilarious series of hedges. We go from an emphatic “Not true,” which plainly flies in the face of the evidence to “Not true at all in all cases,” which is a completely different thing, and isn’t at odds with the study."

    I am gratified that my original post elicited your angry rebuttal. Your argument is not improved by impugning my smarts. FYI: no pot smoking during the years it took to satisfy the requirements for a Ph.D. It was only when writing my dissertation that I discovered the sequence I originally described: losing the drift of the argument, smoking a joint, short-term memory loss permitting the main line of argument to be recovered, 15 to 20 minute impairment of typing skills and then back on track. Anecdote, yes but also a data point. As for that putative IQ of 157, I was given that figure as the result of the tests schoolchildren took. As there seemed to be no correlative to my academic standing—this was in grade school—I placed that "fact" in the basket of inexpliquables where it remains to this day. The Forbes article cited claimed that pot smoking lowered IQ. I doubt it on the basis of my personal experience. Social scientists, perhaps with a parti pris in the matter, studied some thousands of individuals for 38 years, handing on the study as social scientists retired and others came on board. Hard to take seriously. "If seven maids with seven mops swept for a half a year, do you suppose, the walrus said, that they could get it clear?"

    The Forbes article cited claimed that pot smoking lowered IQ.

    That’s not what the Forbes article or the study it cites says.

  161. @Anon
    https://www.forbes.com/sites/travisbradberry/2015/02/10/new-study-shows-smoking-pot-permanently-lowers-iq/#513cdfa62f5b

    Uh-oh.

    supposedly pot smokers get a green sludge on their brain

  162. @Reg Cæsar

    (if Trump ever went to Gab, he’d expand Gab’s user base by 10x).
     
    Why hasn't Trump been banned from Twitter? That's the shoe that hasn't dropped.

    If you want proof of their inconsistency, there it is.

    banned for what though – hurting democrats’ feelings?

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    banned for what though – hurting democrats’ feelings?

     

    For the same (purported) reasons they banned Tatania, Alex, and numerous others. We're splitting hairs here, and Twitter deserves no defense.
  163. @Cloudbuster
    You entirely misunderstood Bill Jones' point.

    “You entirely misunderstood Bill Jones’ point.”

    No, I understood it completely. But, just for kicks, why don’t you explain it for everyone?

    • Replies: @Cloudbuster
    He explained it clearly in his post. Read it again. Very slowly.
  164. @Dave Pinsen
    It's an allusion to Jack Dorsey's birthday trip.

    https://twitter.com/jack/status/1071575088695140353

    Pyin Oo Lwin, Myanmar

    The less pronounceable, the more authentic.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    Pyin Oo Lwin, Myanmar

     

    Is that anywhere near Ffestiniog, Ynysddu, or Pontypandy?


    https://uk.newonnetflix.info/reviews/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/Great-Fire-of-Pontypandy.jpg



    Or Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch?




    https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8242/8498942838_5cb321f413_b.jpg
  165. @Anonymammal
    >https://www.forbes.com/sites/travisbradberry/2015/02/10/new-study-shows-smoking-pot-permanently-lowers-iq/#513cdfa62f5b

    Not true, not true at all in all cases. Take me for example. I tested as a child to have an IQ of 157. A fellow-student at college bragged how he got 2 papers in mathematics published written behind dope. I eventually found out how helpful pot is to clear up one's thoughts. While writing my Ph.D. dissertation I sometimes/often lost the trail of the thought I was explaining. When I realized the trail was lost, smoking a joint suppressed short-term thinking and allowed one to think cosmically, so to speak. The starting point of the train of thought reappeared with clarity and one could return to writing at the point where one had gotten lost. To be sure, it took some 15 or 20 minutes before one's typing skills returned. But still and all. Couldn't have done it without weed, it being the Ph.D. diss. and 5 papers published in refereed journals and several more making the rounds of refereed journals. I recommend smoking pot in that context and see for yourself.

    I think you were originally too smart for your own good. You were probably able to realize that your Ph.D dissertation was a useless waste of time in the grand scheme. And there were too many, far more interesting, thoughts going through your head.

    Once the pot knocked off a few IQ points, you were back in the range necessary to be a good worker bee. Just a theory.

  166. @Autochthon
    I didn't cite the German example to discuss comparative government or sociology, dumbass; it stands as an example of the now commonly accepted idea – in the F.U.S.A., Canada, Germany, France, Britain, Australia, the Netherlands, Belgium, Sweden, and almost any other such nation you may mention – that writing things like the perfectly reasonable and inarguably civil things the German couple wrote constitutes incivility, and the related, broader notion some such things simply should not be permitted to be voiced at all, which is exactly what one sees with PayPal, Twitter, Facebook, Apple, and other corporations who remove ideas they disapprove of from their platforms, refuse to process financial transactions for the purveyors of ideas they dislike, and so on. Any platform similar to Twitter which similarly exercises censorship about so-called incivility will fall into the same tyrannical, partisan horror-show the German couple fell prey to.

    If a man says to believe this or that unsound idea is evil or stupid, the man has not said the believer in the idea is evil or stupid; indeed, the man is demonstrably placing faith in the believer's ability to reason by presenting his arguments against the unsound idea. I'm calling you a dumbass because you decided this exchange should include ad hominem insults, and because you cannot follow a simple argument by analogy without having each aspect of the thing explained in stultifying detail unnecessary for the Cloudbuster, the anonymous person you initially accused of "talking trash," and, I'll warrant, the majority of other readers.

    By the by: Are you familiar with psychological projection? You could stand to be.

    Would you like a hug, champ? Mommy and Daddy may not love you but I do.

  167. @anon
    banned for what though - hurting democrats' feelings?

    banned for what though – hurting democrats’ feelings?

    For the same (purported) reasons they banned Tatania, Alex, and numerous others. We’re splitting hairs here, and Twitter deserves no defense.

  168. @Hail

    Pyin Oo Lwin, Myanmar
     
    The less pronounceable, the more authentic.

    Pyin Oo Lwin, Myanmar

    Is that anywhere near Ffestiniog, Ynysddu, or Pontypandy?

    Or Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch?

    • Replies: @Hail
    That second word sounds like Alex Jones' Hillary Clinton impression [6:55-7:40]:

    https://youtu.be/ntWieh7YIgY?t=416

    See Alex Jones on Hillary Clinton, a Character Study [6:55-7:20], 2016. (Partial transcription attempt here [#9].)
  169. @SimpleSong
    Part of me thinks that if Torba can hold out for a while he may end up OK. He needs to improve the site from both a tech and culture standpoint, certainly. But here's how I see the future of Twitter playing out in a macro way:

    Twitter made no profit for a very, very long time, and is now making a very small profit. In terms of profit and revenue picture it is about four times as large as...wait for it.... Cheyenne Regional Medical Center in Cheyenne Wyoming. Well, slightly less than four times, actually. But hopefully that gives you a sense of relative scale.

    These companies are not as big and powerful as you think they are. They exist because they we are in a historical period with extremely low interest rates and very few opportunities for investment. Thus, any company that can spin a plausible growth story gets an absurd valuation.

    Twitter will eventually stop growing (possibly it already has.) Interest rates will eventually go back up (they already are.) When both of these things happen the stock starts looking like a normal-ish stock and becomes much less valuable than it is now. When this happens you can no longer compensate employees with stock options. When this happens you lose a lot of your technical talent. When this happens the user experience starts to degrade, and when this happens users go elsewhere. In my opinion twitter is not much of a natural monopoly, doesn't really have strong network effects, and the market can absolutely support several niche twitters.

    Torba can't tap into dumb money by spinning a growth story, this is his big disadvantage. But as soon as that dumb money disappears he ends up on a level playing field.

    I agree Twitter and other social media sites are probably way over-valued from an objective profitability point of view. Stockholders will end up taking a bath.

    But it seems to me these companies can always command a hefty “premium” over their objective value due to their status as political and public opinion influencers. It’s like the way newspapers have traditionally been bought by billionaires from other fields for their prestige value even when they can’t possibly turn a profit. (But now print is so passe that there is no prestige left.)

    After they lose most of their putative stock valuation (in the process you describe), Twitter & company will probably go private and get picked up at relative bargain prices as trophy purchases by oligarchs. Perhaps we can at least hope that one or more of these oligarchs is a conservative.

    It would be quite satisfying to see SJWs getting banned and being told — “well, it’s a private company they can do what they like.”

  170. @Corvinus
    "You entirely misunderstood Bill Jones’ point."

    No, I understood it completely. But, just for kicks, why don't you explain it for everyone?

    He explained it clearly in his post. Read it again. Very slowly.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
    "He explained it clearly in his post. Read it again. Very slowly."

    LOL, exactly what I thought. You are trying to sell a nothingburger. Over yonder are the food peddlers. You'll face some stiff competition from those who are selling crap on a stick and shit sandwiches.
  171. @Reg Cæsar

    Pyin Oo Lwin, Myanmar

     

    Is that anywhere near Ffestiniog, Ynysddu, or Pontypandy?


    https://uk.newonnetflix.info/reviews/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/Great-Fire-of-Pontypandy.jpg



    Or Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch?




    https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8242/8498942838_5cb321f413_b.jpg

    That second word sounds like Alex Jones’ Hillary Clinton impression [6:55-7:40]:

    See Alex Jones on Hillary Clinton, a Character Study [6:55-7:20], 2016. (Partial transcription attempt here [#9].)

  172. @Cloudbuster
    He explained it clearly in his post. Read it again. Very slowly.

    “He explained it clearly in his post. Read it again. Very slowly.”

    LOL, exactly what I thought. You are trying to sell a nothingburger. Over yonder are the food peddlers. You’ll face some stiff competition from those who are selling crap on a stick and shit sandwiches.

  173. She has been “unbanned.”

    Also her short account of the Twitter trauma posted on Quillette.

    https://quillette.com/2018/12/13/i-now-understand-how-nelson-mandela-felt/

  174. Spectator USA:

    Welcome back Titania McGrath!

    Godfrey Elfwick
    December 10, 2018

    ……
    Thankfully, after a worldwide candlelit vigil, Twitter saw the error of its ways and decided not to side with the Nazis after all. At 10:14p.m. GMT on December 10, Titania’s account ban was lifted.

    ‘Huzzah, huzzah!’ the children cried, ‘Titania has come back to us!’ People emerged, blinking, mole-like from the darkness of their hovels and held hands. All was well again. The evil Nazi trolls had been defeated. As I type this, tears are streaming down my face. My own account remains lost, but at least we still have Titania…for the time being.

    • Replies: @MEH 0910
    Spectator USA:

    Let’s admit that comedy is problematic

    Godfrey Elfwick
    December 15, 2018

    ......
    This week, a ‘stand up comedian’ by the name of Konstantin Kisin was handed a very reasonable contract by the School of African and Oriental Studies (SOAS) in London, organized by university society Unicef on Campus. The contract (pictured below) stipulated very clearly that his comedy act must abide by a strict set of rules in order to spread joy and happiness.
     
    http://3h7pwd17k2h42n17eg2j7vdq-wpengine.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/image1-1.jpg

    Instead of signing this perfectly legitimate agreement, what did Konstantin do? He ridiculed it! A comedian actually made fun of something which was meant to be taken completely seriously. You honestly couldn’t make this up! Here he is doing a ‘stand up comedy’ routine about it:
     
    https://youtu.be/z9WuerKmvJE

    I am literally shaking with rage at the thought of a room filled with people mocking the need for safe spaces. It’s like encountering hundreds of micro-aggressions all at once, like tiny paper cuts embedding themselves into my crevices. The first time I saw that clip, I zipped myself into my portable isolation chamber and ate nothing but tinned pineapple until the fear subsided.
     
  175. @MEH 0910
    Spectator USA:

    Welcome back Titania McGrath!

    Godfrey Elfwick
    December 10, 2018

    ......
    Thankfully, after a worldwide candlelit vigil, Twitter saw the error of its ways and decided not to side with the Nazis after all. At 10:14p.m. GMT on December 10, Titania’s account ban was lifted.

    ‘Huzzah, huzzah!’ the children cried, ‘Titania has come back to us!’ People emerged, blinking, mole-like from the darkness of their hovels and held hands. All was well again. The evil Nazi trolls had been defeated. As I type this, tears are streaming down my face. My own account remains lost, but at least we still have Titania…for the time being.
     

    Spectator USA:

    Let’s admit that comedy is problematic

    Godfrey Elfwick
    December 15, 2018

    ……
    This week, a ‘stand up comedian’ by the name of Konstantin Kisin was handed a very reasonable contract by the School of African and Oriental Studies (SOAS) in London, organized by university society Unicef on Campus. The contract (pictured below) stipulated very clearly that his comedy act must abide by a strict set of rules in order to spread joy and happiness.

    Instead of signing this perfectly legitimate agreement, what did Konstantin do? He ridiculed it! A comedian actually made fun of something which was meant to be taken completely seriously. You honestly couldn’t make this up! Here he is doing a ‘stand up comedy’ routine about it:

    I am literally shaking with rage at the thought of a room filled with people mocking the need for safe spaces. It’s like encountering hundreds of micro-aggressions all at once, like tiny paper cuts embedding themselves into my crevices. The first time I saw that clip, I zipped myself into my portable isolation chamber and ate nothing but tinned pineapple until the fear subsided.

    • Replies: @MEH 0910
    Spectator USA:

    The Winterfest Carol of Godfrey Elfwick

    Godfrey Elfwick
    December 21, 2018

    Last night, as I was safely tucked up in bed with a kale smoothie, I was visited by three apparitions, each one determined to change my outlook on the toxic nature of Chr*stm*s.
    ......

    ‘Oh, forget it,’ the hooded specter said. He clicked his bony fingers and I was once more in my own bed: safe in the knowledge that the future was going to be woke AF.

    Godfrey bless us, every one!
     
    https://3h7pwd17k2h42n17eg2j7vdq-wpengine.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/elfwick.png
  176. @MEH 0910
    Spectator USA:

    Let’s admit that comedy is problematic

    Godfrey Elfwick
    December 15, 2018

    ......
    This week, a ‘stand up comedian’ by the name of Konstantin Kisin was handed a very reasonable contract by the School of African and Oriental Studies (SOAS) in London, organized by university society Unicef on Campus. The contract (pictured below) stipulated very clearly that his comedy act must abide by a strict set of rules in order to spread joy and happiness.
     
    http://3h7pwd17k2h42n17eg2j7vdq-wpengine.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/image1-1.jpg

    Instead of signing this perfectly legitimate agreement, what did Konstantin do? He ridiculed it! A comedian actually made fun of something which was meant to be taken completely seriously. You honestly couldn’t make this up! Here he is doing a ‘stand up comedy’ routine about it:
     
    https://youtu.be/z9WuerKmvJE

    I am literally shaking with rage at the thought of a room filled with people mocking the need for safe spaces. It’s like encountering hundreds of micro-aggressions all at once, like tiny paper cuts embedding themselves into my crevices. The first time I saw that clip, I zipped myself into my portable isolation chamber and ate nothing but tinned pineapple until the fear subsided.
     

    Spectator USA:

    The Winterfest Carol of Godfrey Elfwick

    Godfrey Elfwick
    December 21, 2018

    Last night, as I was safely tucked up in bed with a kale smoothie, I was visited by three apparitions, each one determined to change my outlook on the toxic nature of Chr*stm*s.
    ……

    ‘Oh, forget it,’ the hooded specter said. He clicked his bony fingers and I was once more in my own bed: safe in the knowledge that the future was going to be woke AF.

    Godfrey bless us, every one!

  177. @Tyrion 2
    Poetry Corner

    In Memoriam

    Titania MacGrath

    So. Farewell
    Then.
    Titania
    Macgrath.

    Hero and
    SJW
    Activist.

    Purged, you were
    By hetero
    White male pig
    Admins.

    Steve says that
    Your posts
    Were satire.

    The Woke though
    Know that the man
    Got you.
    Obviously.

    E.J. Thribb (17½)

    Hysterical how her followers never caught on to the satire. McGrath, even at a cursory reading of her tweets, practically comes right out and says it’s a fake, troll account. But still her “woke” accolites fawn over her proclamations. The more outrageous, the more they actually believe it. And we wonder how the likes of Charles Manson ever got as far as he did. I could swear McGrath is actually a parody by Baron Sacha Cohen

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