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From Time:

Donald Trump Faces Backlash for Tweets About Orlando Shooting

Sam Frizell
June 12, 2016

Donald Trump faced a backlash on Twitter after tweeting his response to the deadly Orlando shooting Sunday morning, when he acknowledged “congrats” for “being right” on terrorism.

Screenshot 2016-06-13 00.44.54

Like much of what Trump does, it inspired a wave of responses. It angered Republicans and Democrats as well as some celebrities who criticized with a familiar line: that Trump is self-centered even in moments of tragedy — the shooting killed at least 50 people and is the deadliest mass shooting in American history. The motives of suspected shooter Omar Mateen were not immediately clear.

John Legend, the singer and songwriter, Chris Sacca, the venture capitalist and George Takei, best known for his role on Star Trek, called Trump out on Twitter.

Well-known Republicans criticized Trump as well, including Sen. John McCain’s daughter Meghan and GOP strategist Ana Navarro.

The Clinton campaign and its allies, who are eyeing a general election strategy that seeks to hang Trump on his own words, criticized the presumptive nominee for his comments.

Others criticized him for calling it a terrorist attacks before the facts of the case were fully known. …

Likewise, New Yorker editor David Remnick is enraged by Trump’s tweet:

He feeds his constituents daily with the misbegotten notion that the country is being flooded with countless unchecked “aliens” from the Middle East, South Asia, and Mexico.

Doesn’t Trump know that under U.S. law there are no such things as “aliens?” It’s in the Zeroth Amendment.

 
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  1. How’s that diversity working for ya?

  2. Trump is learning that being right – while defying the tribal taboos – is far worse than being wrong while agreeing with the taboos.

    November – and a change of regime – can’t come soon enough.

    • Replies: @Grandpa Jack
    @Richard of Melbourne

    If he would just be quiet, instead of saying,"see I told you so"... The people see he is right, no need to flaunt it and appear to be uncaring. He really needs to get a PR advisor. if he already has one, he should fire him, and replace him with someone who doesn't keep letting things happen.

    Replies: @Phil, @The Millennial Falcon, @The most deplorable one, @guest, @Tex, @Forbes, @Bill

    , @boogerbently
    @Richard of Melbourne

    Any backlash against lefties using this "tragedy" to promote gun control ?

  3. Islam the religion of leaving people in pieces, not peace.

  4. The Orlando Official Tourism Association must be breathing a sigh of relief that the Muslim terrorist did not commit his act of terrorism at Univeral, Disney, or SeaWorld. Had Omar Mateen murdered 50 people in one of those amusement parks, it would have been a PR nightmare for Orlando’s tourism industry.

    • Replies: @Grandpa Jack
    @Jefferson

    He was offended by gays, not 5 yr olds

    Replies: @Stan Adams, @Anonymous, @Big Bill

    , @Big Bill
    @Jefferson

    The next ISIS soldier could attack the Great Satan anywhere.

    , @Stan Adams
    @Jefferson

    And the thing is that Disney's Gay Day is always the first Saturday in June - it was last week. I'm surprised we haven't heard more about that - the kook shoots up a LGBTQQIP2SAA bar only a week after one of the biggest LGBTQQIP2SAA shindigs in the world. (Certainly it's the biggest LGBTQQIP2SAA event in Orlando.)

    Of course, Disney flacks can say truthfully, with a straight face, that Disney World is not in Orlando - it's in Lake Buena Vista. And Lake Buena Vista is nearer to Kissimmee than it is to Orlando.

    Replies: @Grandpa Jack, @Jefferson

  5. Obama’s weasely words have made a Trump victory inevitable. Immigration needs to be strictly vetted so that westerners are not put in danger from medieval goatherds with access to guns.

  6. A backlash on Twitter?

    My goodness! That’s almost as bad as a nightclub floor with the blood of 103 people slicking it up, and 50 corpses.

  7. Why does Minnesota and Michigan have more Muslims than Florida? When the weather in Florida is a lot more similar to the weather in The Middle East, North Africa, and Somalia.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Jefferson


    Why does Minnesota and Michigan have more Muslims than Florida? When the weather in Florida is a lot more similar to the weather in The Middle East, North Africa, and Somalia.
     
    I saw this addressed by libertarian economist Thomas DiLorenzo, who asked why immigrants from tropical climates (e.g., Dominican Republic, Honduras, et al.) pass up a lot of warm Southern states to head to places like Massachusetts, etc. He said the reason is obvious. Welfare.

    Replies: @Hodag

    , @TheJester
    @Jefferson

    Lots of Muslim immigrants in Minnesota and Michigan? It's the Evangelical (a.k.a. Scandinavian) Lutheran ministries. They act as enthusiastic, compensated agents of the Federal government to and settle immigrants from MENA. It's a good "gig" if you can get it ... a place to live, furniture, clothes, a job, and occasionally a car.

    As New Age Christians, the Evangelical Lutherans apparently have a lot in common with their Scandinavian relatives in Sweden and Norway with respect to "white guilt" and the need for self-flagellation and self-destruction as penance for their sins.

    As for the weather in Minnesota compared to Florida? I guess there are not too many Evangelical Lutherans in Florida.

    , @Mike Street Station
    @Jefferson


    Why does Minnesota and Michigan have more Muslims than Florida? When the weather in Florida is a lot more similar to the weather in The Middle East, North Africa, and Somalia.
     
    I can only guess about Michigan, but I'm guessing that is where a lot of the earlier Christian Arabs settled, so the newer Muslim ones were probably attracted to an area that had similar language and food. Minnesota is more clear. That's where the US government settled lots of Somali's from the 90's on. Since you are talking about a large contingent of social services dependent people, they are not going anywhere while they are hooked up into the welfare lifeline. The only Somali's who can leave are the ones who actually integrate, get job skills and an education.

    Replies: @415 reasons

    , @flyingtiger
    @Jefferson

    Welfare. When I was younger, the plan was to flee to the snow states to escape from the mahogany mob. We figured they hated the cold and snow. We never thought thatwelfare would bring them in.

    , @guest
    @Jefferson

    You mean the People's Republic of Minnesota? A Worker's...err, Multicultural Paradise.

  8. Pat Casey says:

    Remnick is a literary philistine, and so are all but very few of his ilk. Blackguards all of them. What exactly does he intend to convey by quote marking the word “alien”? That Trump is really calling immigrants E.T.s? Or that literati sophisticates like him know when they’re supposed to think about E.T? LOL what an idiot.

    http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/alien

    1 Belonging to a foreign country:
    an alien culture

    1.1 (Of a plant or animal species) introduced from another country and later naturalized:
    many food chains are based upon alien plants

    2 Unfamiliar and disturbing or distasteful:
    principles that are alien to them
    they found the world of further education a little alien
    More example sentences Synonyms

    3 Supposedly from another world; extraterrestrial:
    alien beings
    an alien spacecraft

    • Replies: @Big Bill
    @Pat Casey

    Good point. "Alien" is a precise legal term, as is "illegal alien". They are defined in the US Code.

    When people call a Mexican illegal an "immigrant" I ask them how they know he intended to "immigrate" (ie become one of us). When questioned, many if not most illegals say they plan to work in the USA for a while and then return to their homelands. Based on their own intentions, they are, at best, illegal "guest workers."

    , @Olorin
    @Pat Casey

    That sort of quotation deployment was invented by the literary deconstruction movement. It had multiple functions, all of them involving power-brokering (resources, mates, territory...).

    1) To allow Deconstructors to elbow-nudge each other and say, "I'm about to take a clear word or concept and entalmudize it into something only we True Believers understand, or claim to."

    2) To empty of meaning clear words and concepts and create discussion, distraction, and conflict where none ever existed before.

    3) To vest power in those who mess with language and marginalize** those who use it etymologically precisely.

    **marginalize (v.) 1832, "to make marginal notes," from marginal + -ize. The meaning "force into a position of powerlessness" attested by 1929.

    It is also an attack on Latinate constructions in English and Indo-European languages in general.

    Alien is closely etymologically related to alias, "(an)other," and derives from the Proto-Indo-European root *al- (1), meaning beyond, other, or different. Similar words and concepts appear in Sanskrit, Avestan, Armenian, Greek, Gothic, Old English, and the Modern English (else).

    The capacity to discriminate between one thing and another is the most basic feature of any successful biological unit, never mind species or race. Turning that into a locus of political struggle and confusion is tres soixante-huit.

    Replies: @Stan Adams

  9. He’s right of course, so right that boasting about it seems too easy. The presidential thing to do here is to bow your head. The bodies are still warm, for goodness’ sake!

    • Replies: @reiner Tor
    @Anonymous

    The left doesn't wait for the bodies to cool with their anti-Islamophobia frontlash, so why should Trump?

    Replies: @Je Suis Omar Mateen

    , @Eric Novak
    @Anonymous

    Ignoring the implications of mass immigration during a presidential campaign about immigration is controlling the campaign. The opposition wants immigration debate crushed, pretending in many cases that Donald Trump's rocket ride to the top and his opening bid for the presidency have nothing to do with immigration. The time to make declarations and further expose the bizarro fantasy world of the left and of Cuckservatives is when the bodies are still warm. The left hasn't waited to comment on gun control.

  10. And with this sad unfortunate tragedy, Trump has a legitimate opportunity to carry FL in the GE. Especially since Hillary isn’t perceived as willing to do anything to check the tide of Muslim immigration. Remember, post San Bernadino shooting in December, Trump’s numbers spiked so its fair to state that his polls should only increase within the next few days/weeks as well.

    Regarding Twitter, it seems that tech guru Milo Yiannopoulos is especially taking this tragedy rather hard.

    • Replies: @Josh
    @Yojimbo/Zatoichi

    THat guy is a tech guru?

  11. If we harnessed the brain power of John Legend, George Takei, McCain, and Navarro, we could toast a piece of toast… Lightly

    With apologies to Alex P Keaton

    • Agree: Connecticut Famer
  12. “Well-known Republicans criticized Trump as well, including Sen. John McCain’s daughter Meghan and GOP strategist Ana Navarro.”

    Wow, they’re bringing the big guns out now.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Hugh

    Ana Navarro is the girlfriend of the guy who owns the Biltmore Hotel where Jeb plays golf ever Saturday. That's her qualifications.

    Replies: @Louie, @dc.sunsets

    , @Lurker
    @Hugh

    I have to say, I'm quite a fan of Meghan's big guns.

    Replies: @Jefferson, @Jim Don Bob, @guest

  13. @Richard of Melbourne
    Trump is learning that being right - while defying the tribal taboos - is far worse than being wrong while agreeing with the taboos.

    November - and a change of regime - can't come soon enough.

    Replies: @Grandpa Jack, @boogerbently

    If he would just be quiet, instead of saying,”see I told you so”… The people see he is right, no need to flaunt it and appear to be uncaring. He really needs to get a PR advisor. if he already has one, he should fire him, and replace him with someone who doesn’t keep letting things happen.

    • Replies: @Phil
    @Grandpa Jack

    How much credit did he get for being right about Brussels?

    You're wrong, if the media can ignore all the times Trump is right they will

    he needs to do this to stay in the relevant new cycles

    , @The Millennial Falcon
    @Grandpa Jack

    Capacity for shame is not something the American electorate has rewarded.

    This reminds of the endless conservative pundit griping over Obama or Clinton affecting outrageous Southern accents when addressing black crowds. Blatant, condescending pandering! they cry. So offensive!

    And yet black crowds eat it up.

    If you aren't willing to play the game to win, you are going to lose.

    , @The most deplorable one
    @Grandpa Jack

    Among all the sickening nonsense the TV channels were showing last night was a healthy bunch of references to Trump.

    I think he has done the correct thing.

    , @guest
    @Grandpa Jack

    He possibly still could've won, I don't know. But Trump at the very least saved himself a ton of money by being bad at PR, which won him free advertising from all the people scolding him. If he's going to beat Hillary, assuming she doesn't beat herself, I think he'll need a series of "gaffes" like this one.

    , @Tex
    @Grandpa Jack


    If he would just be quiet, instead of saying,”see I told you so”… The people see he is right, no need to flaunt it and appear to be uncaring. He really needs to get a PR advisor. if he already has one, he should fire him, and replace him with someone who doesn’t keep letting things happen.

     

    If Trump kept quiet and spoke only when spoken to, no one would vote for him. I despise mealy-mouthed politicians and so do lots of voters.
    , @Forbes
    @Grandpa Jack

    On what planet are you currently residing?

    , @Bill
    @Grandpa Jack

    Did you miss the part where Trump won the GOP nomination with no money in the teeth of the establishment's vocal hatred? You are witnessing genius PR.

  14. @Jefferson
    The Orlando Official Tourism Association must be breathing a sigh of relief that the Muslim terrorist did not commit his act of terrorism at Univeral, Disney, or SeaWorld. Had Omar Mateen murdered 50 people in one of those amusement parks, it would have been a PR nightmare for Orlando's tourism industry.

    Replies: @Grandpa Jack, @Big Bill, @Stan Adams

    He was offended by gays, not 5 yr olds

    • Replies: @Stan Adams
    @Grandpa Jack

    There are loads of gays working at Disney. (Ask the hateful, homophobic Southern Baptists, who once waged an eight-year jihad against the unclean Mouse House.)

    I know a guy who once took his family to Disney World on Gay Day ... he made the mistake of wearing a red shirt. His two little boys learned that you don't need a boat to go cruising.

    , @Anonymous
    @Grandpa Jack

    Mateen chose gays, but good, pious Muslims are offended by a great many things, including the existence of all kuffar, no matter their age or their other sins.

    , @Big Bill
    @Grandpa Jack

    He scouted Disneyworld as a target:

    http://www.people.com/article/omar-mateen-disney-world-scouted-attacks

  15. Tying together two recent iSteve topics:

    • Replies: @DCThrowback
    @Dave Pinsen

    Chris grew up in Lockport, NY, a suburb of Buffalo. His dad was a lawyer, and conducted my entry interview in to college. His dad was a very nice man.

    Chris, whom I never met but saw often at school (he was a year ahead of me), is not a programmer, but rather a networker. To his credit, he got in w/ the right people at Google, made some great connections and used those connections + his google money to do well in the investment world. He still roots for the Bills and Sabres. I am happy for his success, but not happy enough for him to listen to him take his victory lap on the Bill Simmons Ringer podcast.

    But man, what a condescending, know-everything prick. I think he blocked me on twitter 4 years ago because we disagreed on Obamacare or some such nonsense.

  16. @Hugh
    "Well-known Republicans criticized Trump as well, including Sen. John McCain’s daughter Meghan and GOP strategist Ana Navarro."

    Wow, they're bringing the big guns out now.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Lurker

    Ana Navarro is the girlfriend of the guy who owns the Biltmore Hotel where Jeb plays golf ever Saturday. That’s her qualifications.

    • Replies: @Louie
    @Steve Sailer

    Navarro mainly exists on TV to check the "Latino/a" box on CNN panels these days

    , @dc.sunsets
    @Steve Sailer

    It's now difficult to grasp just how irrelevant the news networks are.

    Seriously, who watches those clowns? Is there a US-Treasury tit specifically to feed the Ministry of Truth's Megaphone, because I don't see how they're surviving, otherwise.

  17. “Trump faces backlash”

    If effectively winning the Presidency early yesterday morning is a “backlash,” I’d wonder what things would be like when things are going good for him.

    • Replies: @SFG
    @countenance

    It's almost five months till election day.

    I wonder how difficult it would be to get one of Trump's many conquests to suddenly decide she had been raped under the new, expansive feminist definitions of rape? (Steve can delete this if he wants but I doubt I'm capable of thinking up anything the left hasn't already.)

    Replies: @Lurker, @Jack D

    , @Clyde
    @countenance


    If effectively winning the Presidency early yesterday morning is a “backlash,” I’d wonder what things would be like when things are going good for him.
     
    Sorry but far from an automatic win. Hillary, the Dems, the media propaganda machine are hard at work trying to twist this mass killing of gays from a Muslim control issue into a gun control issue. We know that Trump has called for a hold on Muslim immigration until we re-examine our ways of vetting them.

    Replies: @Jefferson, @Chris Mallory, @Jack D, @Mike Street Station

  18. Somewhat analogous to another iSteve cliché: we got smoothly from “it’s too early to mention islam” to “it’s too late to mention islam, why are you so obsessed with that, we need to heal”.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @kihowi

    How dare Trump jump to conclusions that a guy who calls 911 and pledges allegiance to ISIS is a Muslim terrorist? We need Hillary's nuanced approach where she says nothing for 8 hours while her brain trust works on a statement that will offend no one and then she denounces guns. That's the smart "moderate" approach to these things which all intelligent people should espouse, whether they be liberals or cuckservatives.

    Every once in a while, a lion will jump out of the bush and attack a herd of grazing animals. For a moment the gazelles and zebras will scatter in fear but once they realize the attack is over for now they go right back to munching grass as if nothing happened. After all, what can you do?

    Replies: @Buffalo Joe

  19. @countenance
    "Trump faces backlash"

    If effectively winning the Presidency early yesterday morning is a "backlash," I'd wonder what things would be like when things are going good for him.

    Replies: @SFG, @Clyde

    It’s almost five months till election day.

    I wonder how difficult it would be to get one of Trump’s many conquests to suddenly decide she had been raped under the new, expansive feminist definitions of rape? (Steve can delete this if he wants but I doubt I’m capable of thinking up anything the left hasn’t already.)

    • Replies: @Lurker
    @SFG

    If such a woman exists, wouldn't she have appeared already? After all, they wanted to unseat him before the nomination.

    Replies: @guest

    , @Jack D
    @SFG

    Trump is insulated from these charges by the fact that Bill is an actual rapist. They (being Hillary and her collaborators in the media and the Party) know they are vulnerable for having enabled and shielded Bill for decades and the pot is in no position to call the kettle black.

    Also, the type of people who get fainting spells over the kind of "rape" that happens when you change your mind months or years after the fact are already not voting for Trump and those who are voting for him figure that this is more proof that he is really a macho guy.

    Replies: @ben tillman

  20. What I want to know is what hotkey you assinged to the “frontlash article morning after bloodbath” macro.

  21. The media doesn’t have enough bandwidth to cover all of Trump’s provocative remarks and it’s awesome.

    • Replies: @Percy Gryce
    @Steven J.

    Flood the zone. That's not a bad strategy.

  22. @Dave Pinsen
    Tying together two recent iSteve topics:
    https://twitter.com/T_J_Chambers/status/734638527674241024

    Replies: @DCThrowback

    Chris grew up in Lockport, NY, a suburb of Buffalo. His dad was a lawyer, and conducted my entry interview in to college. His dad was a very nice man.

    Chris, whom I never met but saw often at school (he was a year ahead of me), is not a programmer, but rather a networker. To his credit, he got in w/ the right people at Google, made some great connections and used those connections + his google money to do well in the investment world. He still roots for the Bills and Sabres. I am happy for his success, but not happy enough for him to listen to him take his victory lap on the Bill Simmons Ringer podcast.

    But man, what a condescending, know-everything prick. I think he blocked me on twitter 4 years ago because we disagreed on Obamacare or some such nonsense.

  23. Seemed like nearly all the NeverTrump people thought the above tweet was the most offensive in the history of ever. This isn’t news. This is look over there away from the Islamic terrorist.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @EriK

    They are understandably anxious to change the subject. There's no way that they can spin this to make Obama and Hillary look good. The usual methods (Islam is a religion of peace, blah, blah blah) are so predictable that they have lost their power in the face of all the evidence to the contrary - you can only piss on my shoes and tell me it's raining so many times before I notice that it ain't really raining, no matter how stupid I am. Their dishwater strength remarks after the tragedy are a keen reminder that their approach (ask for another gun bill that they know will never pass) is completely ineffective and that these tragedies will keep happening again and again for as long as they are in power. So the sooner they can change the subject from immigration caused terrorism to how evil Donald Trump is, the better for them.

    , @Buffalo Joe
    @EriK

    Erik, Trump has become the "Squirrel", as in "Hey, look over there, a squirrel." Deflect, deflect ,deflect and occasionally genuflect.

  24. @Hugh
    "Well-known Republicans criticized Trump as well, including Sen. John McCain’s daughter Meghan and GOP strategist Ana Navarro."

    Wow, they're bringing the big guns out now.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Lurker

    I have to say, I’m quite a fan of Meghan’s big guns.

    • Replies: @Jefferson
    @Lurker

    "I have to say, I’m quite a fan of Meghan’s big guns."

    Meghan McCain has porn star sized breasts.

    Replies: @Jack D, @Lurker

    , @Jim Don Bob
    @Lurker

    Meghan is fat, as well as stupid,

    , @guest
    @Lurker

    While it's better than her having small ones, large breasts on fat women doesn't mean much.

  25. The left is smelling a bit of blood on Trump after his near-apology on the La Raza judge. They’re trying to force him to back down here—somehow. Hence the tail-wagging-the-dog nonsense of a “backlash”—the press is making up a backlash in order to create one.

    Never apologize. It’s a sign of weakness.

    • Agree: Chrisnonymous
    • Replies: @Jack D
    @whorefinder

    The other day, they had Trump on TV reading from a teleprompter. It was clear that his handlers had told him he had to do this in order to stop himself from going off message. He was horrible. He sounded like a robot, like the body snatchers had captured the real Trump. He didn't get the nomination by reading from a teleprompter.

    Obama was a master teleprompter reader - if reading a teleprompter made you a great President then Obama would be our greatest President. If Obama was a 10 on teleprompter reading, Trump is a 2. I assume Trump will do this about a week before he gets sick of it and fires whoever put forth this stupid idea. The whole appeal of Trump is that he is NOT a "nuanced" speaker like Hillary who says nothing but well rehearsed diplomatic lies but a guy who tells you what he is actually thinking.

    Replies: @candid_observer, @Buffalo Joe, @flyingtiger

    , @Abe
    @whorefinder


    The left is smelling a bit of blood on Trump after his near-apology on the La Raza judge. They’re trying to force him to back down here—somehow. Hence the tail-wagging-the-dog nonsense of a “backlash”—the press is making up a backlash in order to create one.

    Never apologize. It’s a sign of weakness
     

    Dave Pinsen posted a scan of a Jacob Weisberg editorial, in which Weisberg makes the worst sales pitch ever- "Libertarians: your ideas are stupid, and sometimes downright evil, and because most of you are such basement-dwelling weirdos I can't say I even have enough respect to fear you like I would neo-Nazis. But if you complete this suicide mission of drawing just enough support away from Trump to torpedo his candidacy, you may get a few crumbs of posthumous approval from me. Maybe."

    Romney- who I still maintain is probably the most outstanding human being to run for the Presidency in the last 50 years- has this exact white knight, self-destruct sequence that Weisberg is trying to activate in Libertarians. I mean, sure, fawning footnotes from Doris Kearns Goodwin III and Arthur Muhammad Schlesinger IV about how he valiantly convinced Republicans to go down to flaming defeat in 2016 in order to save the soul of the GOP are nice, but I think he seriously believes nothing less than honor demands he take out Trump, and he'd happily do so even if nobody was around to see. And yet Romney- the image of the strong, lantern-jawed 50's patriarch- crumbles when dissed by anyone outside his party. He's like the good-dad who stands up to the loud, drunk uncle ruining Thanksgiving by being rude to his daughter's black boyfriend (Trump), and then stands silently by as said boyfriend hectors them about what privileged, racist pigs they are before confiscating the family silverware to pawn later in support of BLM activism.

    What I'm saying is that Orlando makes acceptance-craving Republicans like Romney and Schwarzenegger, vaporing over Trump's Mexican judge "racism", look pathetic and weak because everyone knows they would have done absolutely nothing to prevent this.

    While playing this classy and low-key, in a sort of run-out-the-clock strategy, may be the wise thing to do, low-key is not what got him here, so Trump should take the opportunity to double-down and own this. Reach out to gays and say he's the only one who'd keep them safe. Yeah, I'm sure a couple big-name lefty gays would try and slap away the hand offered him ("not in my name", yadda yadda) and that's when Trump should just double down. "Yeah, I admit it. I'm sort of a bully. But I'm the only one who can protect you whether you personally like me or not. I'm the bully you need." #BullyYouNeed

    Replies: @Dave Pinsen

  26. George Takei? Oh my!

  27. @SFG
    @countenance

    It's almost five months till election day.

    I wonder how difficult it would be to get one of Trump's many conquests to suddenly decide she had been raped under the new, expansive feminist definitions of rape? (Steve can delete this if he wants but I doubt I'm capable of thinking up anything the left hasn't already.)

    Replies: @Lurker, @Jack D

    If such a woman exists, wouldn’t she have appeared already? After all, they wanted to unseat him before the nomination.

    • Replies: @guest
    @Lurker

    Republicans wanted him out, but they're not as good at it. The left, which is merciless, was tickled pink at the thought of running against an orange, toupeed, loudmouth reality tv star. They grow more and more frightened every day.

  28. I think there’s a pretty strong case to have a news blackout on perpetrators and motivations. You’d never manage it on the atrocities themselves, but it’d be a huge step forward if the news simply reported that this had happened, and that the shooter had been killed and his identity was known, but didn’t report what that was. He has his notoriety, he has his homophobic views aired, IS have their free PR for doing nothing. Once again, we’ve handed them most of what they want.

    • Replies: @This Is Our Home
    @Tiny Duck

    That only works if the guys in charge are willing to be responsive to the underlying problems. They are not though. They prefer to stick their fingers in their ears, close their eyes and babble religion of peace nonsense diversicrat nonsense to themselves.

    If you ignore that millions of people want you dead and want to take your land, it does not make everything better. Although, there is some truth to what you say, it is a short-salve. Like taking Heroin to deal with loneliness. Both make you feel better at first but both also eventually leave you dead.

    , @Mr. Anon
    @Tiny Duck

    "I think there’s a pretty strong case to have a news blackout on perpetrators and motivations."

    That might be true for lunatics like the ones who committed the Newtown or the Aurora massacres, but it is not, I believe, for politically motivated atrocities like this one. These guys are not just in it for fame; they might not be in it for fame at all, but for their cause.

    , @Tex
    @Tiny Duck

    You forgot to add, "All your grand-children will be mulattoes. Mwa-ha-ha-ha!"

  29. @Anonymous
    He's right of course, so right that boasting about it seems too easy. The presidential thing to do here is to bow your head. The bodies are still warm, for goodness' sake!

    Replies: @reiner Tor, @Eric Novak

    The left doesn’t wait for the bodies to cool with their anti-Islamophobia frontlash, so why should Trump?

    • Agree: NickG
    • Replies: @Je Suis Omar Mateen
    @reiner Tor

    "The left doesn’t wait for the bodies to cool with their anti-Islamophobia frontlash, so why should Trump?"

    The Rainbow Progratard Left immediately goes into "Never let a good crisis go to waste" mode in every situation, rarely letting the bodies drop below 98 degrees, so The Donald should of course act as they do. What's sauce for the gander is sauce......

  30. Homosexuality, like gender, is a choice. This truth I find self-evident.

    Let them defend it and inspire us with their valour:

    • Replies: @Pat Hannagan
    @Pat Hannagan

    We must allow the homosexual to rise up and fight against this insolence:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-R1yBYDo0Wg

    Replies: @PiltdownMan, @Lurker

    , @PiltdownMan
    @Pat Hannagan

    To be fair to them, the Pet Shop Boys were always equal opportunity and suggested heteros try the West End of London instead. Ok, that's pretty lame, but hey...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p3j2NYZ8FKs

    , @Anonymous
    @Pat Hannagan

    Wow. That's got to be the gayest, cheesiest video I've ever seen. The song is like a SJW anthem. I actually kind of like The Pet Shop Boys, but I've never heard this song before.

    Replies: @CJ

  31. Leftist conservative [AKA "corporate slave wandering down fluorescent hallway"] says: • Website

    when is the MSM going to start talking about the fact that the cowardly orlando cops waited outside for 3 hours eating doughnuts while Mateen was able to kill many more people inside the club before the cops finally ran out of excuses and had to go inside the nightclub and do their jobs?

    And since the MSM won’t do their jobs, then that is where the online blogosphere comes in, right? Chortle…

    • Replies: @William Badwhite
    @Leftist conservative

    "before the cops finally ran out of excuses and had to go inside the nightclub and do their jobs?"

    You saw the same thing during the massacre at Virginia Tech: cops hiding behind brick walls as the Korean slaughtered people.

    I don't know why this surprises anyone. Police are not Marines. They are not going to mount high-risk charges to rescue civilians.

    Courts have repeatedly held that the police are not obligated to defend or protect you. This is yet another reason for private citizens to consider carrying guns.

    Replies: @V Vega, @Leftist conservative

  32. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Jefferson
    Why does Minnesota and Michigan have more Muslims than Florida? When the weather in Florida is a lot more similar to the weather in The Middle East, North Africa, and Somalia.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @TheJester, @Mike Street Station, @flyingtiger, @guest

    Why does Minnesota and Michigan have more Muslims than Florida? When the weather in Florida is a lot more similar to the weather in The Middle East, North Africa, and Somalia.

    I saw this addressed by libertarian economist Thomas DiLorenzo, who asked why immigrants from tropical climates (e.g., Dominican Republic, Honduras, et al.) pass up a lot of warm Southern states to head to places like Massachusetts, etc. He said the reason is obvious. Welfare.

    • Replies: @Hodag
    @Anonymous

    There have been generations of Middle Eastern people in Detroit for whatever reason. I think it was they are willing to serve blacks and charge high prices.

    Minnesota is due to Lutheran Social Services, a major contractor in refugee resettlement. They make a ton of money doing it. Also in Aurora, IL.




    Philadelphia Cricket last weekend, Oakmont this week. Very excited.

    Replies: @Justpassingby

  33. Suggested improvements:

    1. Disney would have been the ideal location.

    2. Should have imported Muslim wife for co-shooter.

    3. Next time, buy US government guns from Mexican Cartel.

    • Replies: @Travis
    @Ozymandias

    the perp could have killed more people using gasoline to strategically torch the nightclub. The politicians could not blame it on guns , but more people would have died.

    Replies: @Jim Don Bob, @Ozymandias

  34. @Pat Hannagan
    Homosexuality, like gender, is a choice. This truth I find self-evident.

    Let them defend it and inspire us with their valour:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SezoGW_z9w0

    Replies: @Pat Hannagan, @PiltdownMan, @Anonymous

    We must allow the homosexual to rise up and fight against this insolence:

    • Replies: @PiltdownMan
    @Pat Hannagan

    I see your aesthetically superior Bronski Beat and lower the tone with the Village People.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?gl=SG&hl=en-GB&v=CS9OO0S5w2k

    , @Lurker
    @Pat Hannagan

    Pat, I may have asked you before - are you the Aussie, tunnel runner blog Pat?

  35. @Tiny Duck
    I think there's a pretty strong case to have a news blackout on perpetrators and motivations. You'd never manage it on the atrocities themselves, but it'd be a huge step forward if the news simply reported that this had happened, and that the shooter had been killed and his identity was known, but didn't report what that was. He has his notoriety, he has his homophobic views aired, IS have their free PR for doing nothing. Once again, we've handed them most of what they want.

    Replies: @This Is Our Home, @Mr. Anon, @Tex

    That only works if the guys in charge are willing to be responsive to the underlying problems. They are not though. They prefer to stick their fingers in their ears, close their eyes and babble religion of peace nonsense diversicrat nonsense to themselves.

    If you ignore that millions of people want you dead and want to take your land, it does not make everything better. Although, there is some truth to what you say, it is a short-salve. Like taking Heroin to deal with loneliness. Both make you feel better at first but both also eventually leave you dead.

  36. I’m just waiting for some Democrat supporter to suggest that Orlando was a black flag event organised by Trump supporters. 10, 9, 8, 7, ……

    • Replies: @Lurker
    @dearieme

    More plausibly, by the deep state. But then wouldn't their media i.e. all of it - be giving him an easier ride?

    Replies: @Sean

  37. @Lurker
    @Hugh

    I have to say, I'm quite a fan of Meghan's big guns.

    Replies: @Jefferson, @Jim Don Bob, @guest

    “I have to say, I’m quite a fan of Meghan’s big guns.”

    Meghan McCain has porn star sized breasts.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @Jefferson

    Unfortunately, they are attached to the body of an overweight dwarf. And she floughts them in a trashy way. Stay classy, Meghan.

    , @Lurker
    @Jefferson

    My guilty pleasure.

  38. @Grandpa Jack
    @Richard of Melbourne

    If he would just be quiet, instead of saying,"see I told you so"... The people see he is right, no need to flaunt it and appear to be uncaring. He really needs to get a PR advisor. if he already has one, he should fire him, and replace him with someone who doesn't keep letting things happen.

    Replies: @Phil, @The Millennial Falcon, @The most deplorable one, @guest, @Tex, @Forbes, @Bill

    How much credit did he get for being right about Brussels?

    You’re wrong, if the media can ignore all the times Trump is right they will

    he needs to do this to stay in the relevant new cycles

  39. @countenance
    "Trump faces backlash"

    If effectively winning the Presidency early yesterday morning is a "backlash," I'd wonder what things would be like when things are going good for him.

    Replies: @SFG, @Clyde

    If effectively winning the Presidency early yesterday morning is a “backlash,” I’d wonder what things would be like when things are going good for him.

    Sorry but far from an automatic win. Hillary, the Dems, the media propaganda machine are hard at work trying to twist this mass killing of gays from a Muslim control issue into a gun control issue. We know that Trump has called for a hold on Muslim immigration until we re-examine our ways of vetting them.

    • Replies: @Jefferson
    @Clyde

    "Sorry but far from an automatic win. Hillary, the Dems, the media propaganda machine are hard at work trying to twist this mass killing of gays from a Muslim control issue into a gun control issue."

    What's wrong with Hildabeast making gun control the central platform of her presidential campaign? There are a lot of Independent voters who are to the political Right of Hildabeast on the 2nd amendment.

    , @Chris Mallory
    @Clyde

    Gun control is poison over most of the country. Obama stayed far away from gun control during his two elections. He didn't go full retard on the issue until Dec 2012, after his reelection. If he couldn't get it done after Sandy Hook, Clinton won't be able to ride it after Orlando.

    , @Jack D
    @Clyde

    This is definitely far from an automatic win, if only because November is a long way away and the American public has the attention span of a flea. In 3 days this story will be replaced by the latest celebrity to drop dead or whatever. The terrorist is dead and there is only so much you can report.

    However, no one who is not already a true believer is going to be swayed by the gun control arguments. Zero people in America are going to say " I was going to vote for Trump before this Muslim terrorist got going, but now that Hillary has advocated for gun control for the millionth time, I've changed my mind and am voting for her." This will sway exactly no one. The best they can hope for is damage control - to limit the # of people who say, "Damn it, this is the last straw. Banning Muslim immigration seems extreme but nothing we are doing now seems to work. We really need to try something different and I'm going to vote for the guy with the new approach." The only way they can do this is by totally changing the subject to how evil Donald Trump is.

    , @Mike Street Station
    @Clyde


    Sorry but far from an automatic win. Hillary, the Dems, the media propaganda machine are hard at work trying to twist this mass killing of gays from a Muslim control issue into a gun control issue. We know that Trump has called for a hold on Muslim immigration until we re-examine our ways of vetting them.
     
    Yeah they already have control of the talking points. That's why the news refers to this as a "mass shooting" rather than a terrorist attack. They are lumping this in with schools shootings and pulling out the gun control arguments. I saw that demonstrated on Morning Joe this morning, so the lesson is:

    Terrorist Attack: Helps Trump? Nope find another phrase.

    Mass Shooting: Gun Control-Republicans at fault
  40. Unlike Trump, Obama & Clinton went straight to the “ban guns” card.

    In MENA countries the crazies throw homosexuals off of the roofs of tall buildings. Does that mean we should ban automatic elevators?

  41. Everybody loves their narrative, but few want to acknowledge the facts. Everybody wants to say..see, see, I told you so…

    The facts are : a mentally ill second generation Muslim male, the intranet, ISIS mass murder ideology, America’s culture of mass shooting, homophobic third world family and easy access to guns.

    Omar is a nutcase, bipolar, unstable and hateful. From what I read, he hates gays, jews, black and women, another George Zimmerman-like loser who tried and failed to join the police force, raging against the world’s minorities even though he is one himself.

    The bigger issue that Omar brings to focus is of course immigration, not just Muslim immigration.

    Common sense strict pro America immigration policies can be implemented without alienating and angering the world with nazi like proclamations against “Muslims”.

    Compared to immigration from the rest of the world, Muslim immigration has always been limited-that’s why only 1% of America is Muslim-and should continue to be even more so-minimal Syrian refugees for example.

    But America should not be distracted by “Muslims” from the much larger issue of mass immigration from the third world-stay focused people!! Who cares if Obama does not says “Radical Islam”?!

    Mass immigration from Africa, Middle East and Latin America (except Chile and Argentina) is what’s killing American civilization. America can not survive with too many of the second generation from these regions because they mostly turn out to be underachievers or alienated and resentful with the help of liberals who teach them to hate the once majority Whites.

    Maybe Muslim terrorists might have done America a favor because it took them to wake sleepy Americans up to the dangers of unrestrained third world immigration, and to question the Narrative.

    It is not too late and the damages done to America can still be rolled back if only Americans would stay on message and unite on immigration-forget BLM, abortion, the 1%, the middle east, social security-these can all be fixed later.

    • Replies: @Eric Novak
    @Merema

    Nothing that I've read yet indicates that Omar displayed any symptoms of any disease other than being a violent, misogynistic follower of Islam. No indications of any extreme mood swings, mania, or black hole depression. Zero. Nothing. Bipolar disorder patients generally don't behave like terrorists.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @LondonBob

    , @Ttjy
    @Merema

    Agree. I would stop all immigration. If a few Europeans want to come , that might be ok.

  42. @Clyde
    @countenance


    If effectively winning the Presidency early yesterday morning is a “backlash,” I’d wonder what things would be like when things are going good for him.
     
    Sorry but far from an automatic win. Hillary, the Dems, the media propaganda machine are hard at work trying to twist this mass killing of gays from a Muslim control issue into a gun control issue. We know that Trump has called for a hold on Muslim immigration until we re-examine our ways of vetting them.

    Replies: @Jefferson, @Chris Mallory, @Jack D, @Mike Street Station

    “Sorry but far from an automatic win. Hillary, the Dems, the media propaganda machine are hard at work trying to twist this mass killing of gays from a Muslim control issue into a gun control issue.”

    What’s wrong with Hildabeast making gun control the central platform of her presidential campaign? There are a lot of Independent voters who are to the political Right of Hildabeast on the 2nd amendment.

  43. Leftist conservative [AKA "corporate slave wandering down fluorescent hallway"] says: • Website

    *cops shoot your dog*

    *cops wait 3 hours outside club, eating doughnuts, hoping terrorist will kill himself*

    *no way to procrastinate any longer, cops shoot at terrorist*

    *shots miss and hit gays*

  44. @Jefferson
    The Orlando Official Tourism Association must be breathing a sigh of relief that the Muslim terrorist did not commit his act of terrorism at Univeral, Disney, or SeaWorld. Had Omar Mateen murdered 50 people in one of those amusement parks, it would have been a PR nightmare for Orlando's tourism industry.

    Replies: @Grandpa Jack, @Big Bill, @Stan Adams

    The next ISIS soldier could attack the Great Satan anywhere.

  45. @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
    And with this sad unfortunate tragedy, Trump has a legitimate opportunity to carry FL in the GE. Especially since Hillary isn't perceived as willing to do anything to check the tide of Muslim immigration. Remember, post San Bernadino shooting in December, Trump's numbers spiked so its fair to state that his polls should only increase within the next few days/weeks as well.

    Regarding Twitter, it seems that tech guru Milo Yiannopoulos is especially taking this tragedy rather hard.

    Replies: @Josh

    THat guy is a tech guru?

  46. @Pat Casey
    Remnick is a literary philistine, and so are all but very few of his ilk. Blackguards all of them. What exactly does he intend to convey by quote marking the word "alien"? That Trump is really calling immigrants E.T.s? Or that literati sophisticates like him know when they're supposed to think about E.T? LOL what an idiot.

    http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/alien

    1 Belonging to a foreign country:
    an alien culture

    1.1 (Of a plant or animal species) introduced from another country and later naturalized:
    many food chains are based upon alien plants

    2 Unfamiliar and disturbing or distasteful:
    principles that are alien to them
    they found the world of further education a little alien
    More example sentences Synonyms

    3 Supposedly from another world; extraterrestrial:
    alien beings
    an alien spacecraft

    Replies: @Big Bill, @Olorin

    Good point. “Alien” is a precise legal term, as is “illegal alien”. They are defined in the US Code.

    When people call a Mexican illegal an “immigrant” I ask them how they know he intended to “immigrate” (ie become one of us). When questioned, many if not most illegals say they plan to work in the USA for a while and then return to their homelands. Based on their own intentions, they are, at best, illegal “guest workers.”

  47. @Pat Hannagan
    @Pat Hannagan

    We must allow the homosexual to rise up and fight against this insolence:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-R1yBYDo0Wg

    Replies: @PiltdownMan, @Lurker

    I see your aesthetically superior Bronski Beat and lower the tone with the Village People.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?gl=SG&hl=en-GB&v=CS9OO0S5w2k

  48. The shooter’s father isn’t playing to the script.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/the-orlando-shooters-afghan-roots/2016/06/13/d89a8cd0-30e4-11e6-ab9d-1da2b0f24f93_story.html

    “The father of the gunman in the Orlando nightclub shooting said early Monday his son shouldn’t have carried out the massacre because “God himself will punish those involved in homosexuality.”

    Seddique Mateen appeared to maintain a strong affiliation to Afghanistan, hosting a television show broadcast from California that weighed in on the country’s political affairs.

    He also filmed dozens of sparsely viewed, rambling YouTube videos portraying himself as an important Afghan analyst and leader.

    While his travel history remains unknown, Seddique Mateen apparently traveled back to Afghanistan at least occasionally.

    In 2014, during Afghanistan’s presidential campaign, he secured an inteview with Afghan President Ashraf Ghani filmed in Kabul.

    In one YouTube video, Mateen expresses gratitude toward the Afghan Taliban, while denouncing the Pakistani government.

    “Our brothers in Waziristan, our warrior brothers in [the] Taliban movement and national Afghan Taliban are rising up,” he said. “Inshallah the Durand Line issue will be solved soon.” “

    • Replies: @carol
    @Anonymous Nephew

    This calls to mind Fathers and Sons. A noisy but harmless radical? commentator? spawns a heartless nihilist who takes it to the next level. An American citizen!

    Replies: @guest

    , @CJ
    @Anonymous Nephew


    ... his son shouldn’t have carried out the massacre because “God himself will punish those involved in homosexuality.”
     
    That sounds more like Christianity than Islam. Romans 12:19, the King James Version:

    Vengeance is mine, I will repay, saith the Lord.

    Replies: @passerby

  49. @Pat Hannagan
    Homosexuality, like gender, is a choice. This truth I find self-evident.

    Let them defend it and inspire us with their valour:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SezoGW_z9w0

    Replies: @Pat Hannagan, @PiltdownMan, @Anonymous

    To be fair to them, the Pet Shop Boys were always equal opportunity and suggested heteros try the West End of London instead. Ok, that’s pretty lame, but hey…

  50. Bring on the Hashtags. I expect will start to see one hit on Monday evening, or Tuesday evening at the latest.

    #IStandWithGaysAndMuslims
    #ItsNotAboutIslam
    #IWillPartyWithIslam

    • Replies: @Jefferson
    @NeonBets

    "Bring on the Hashtags. I expect will start to see one hit on Monday evening, or Tuesday evening at the latest.

    #IStandWithGaysAndMuslims
    #ItsNotAboutIslam
    #IWillPartyWithIslam"

    I will add more.

    #IslamIsGayFriendly
    #MuslimsAndGaysUnite
    #IAmQueerAndILoveThatIslamIsHere
    #MuslimsAndGaysAreAllies
    #ChristianityIsNoBetter
    #GaysStandWithTheProphetMuhammad
    #GaysAreTheBedrockOfIslam
    #WeAreTheMuslimLiberace

    Replies: @The most deplorable one

    , @Hibernian
    @NeonBets

    I will party with Islam and only ginger ale and root beer will be served; the girls will all wear the most fashionable burquas.

  51. @Clyde
    @countenance


    If effectively winning the Presidency early yesterday morning is a “backlash,” I’d wonder what things would be like when things are going good for him.
     
    Sorry but far from an automatic win. Hillary, the Dems, the media propaganda machine are hard at work trying to twist this mass killing of gays from a Muslim control issue into a gun control issue. We know that Trump has called for a hold on Muslim immigration until we re-examine our ways of vetting them.

    Replies: @Jefferson, @Chris Mallory, @Jack D, @Mike Street Station

    Gun control is poison over most of the country. Obama stayed far away from gun control during his two elections. He didn’t go full retard on the issue until Dec 2012, after his reelection. If he couldn’t get it done after Sandy Hook, Clinton won’t be able to ride it after Orlando.

  52. “He feeds his constituents daily with the misbegotten notion that the country is being flooded with countless unchecked “aliens” from the Middle East, South Asia, and Mexico.”

    Remnick display the typical condescension one expects from Mr. Slim’s corporate newsletter, the New York Times. Trump doesn’t “feed” this to his supporters. His supporters are fully aware that the country is indeed being flooded with aliens, and that’s why they support Trump.

  53. If we harnessed the brain power of John Legend, George Takei, McCain, and Navarro, we could toast a piece of toast… Lightly

    Seriously?

    The only thing Takei ever was part of was Star Trek. Now his living is made off of his gayness and family’s internment in WW2. Unbeliveable who we ge as pundits these days.

    (Shatner said he hardly remembered the guy when working on the series, says a lot huh?)

    • Replies: @Jim Don Bob
    @Dwright

    Right. I wanna know what Lt. Uhuru thinks.

    , @Je Suis Charlie Martel
    @Dwright

    So I was giving them too much credit I guess...

  54. It’s yet another Progressive Big Lie.

    At 2.26 yesterday afternoon, gay writer Tim Teeman of the uberleftist DAILY BEAT wrote the following:

    “From Donald Trump, via Twitter, this morning: “Horrific incident in FL. Praying for all the victims & their families. When will this stop? When will we get tough, smart & vigilant?”

    http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/06/12/omar-mateen-committed-lgbt-mass-murder-we-must-confront-that.html

    Notice there is no boorish ‘congrats’ preamble. That’s because his initial tweet was a properly respectful condolence; the ‘congrats’ tweet was obviously him responding to a follower’s comment, later on (as its syntax would indicate).

    Unless you think a gay leftist would purposely downplay a grotesque gaffe like ‘congrats’ ON BEHALF OF DONALD TRUMP, the most hated man in the MSMverse.

    So then….why would ‘congrats’ go global and viral so quickly?

    Because this IS the MSM. The same MSM that watched mob rule descend on San Jose and not only refused to demand the imposition of civil order ASAP….they rewarded their columnists who encouraged even more rioting with paid vacations masquerading as some bizarre form of punishment. Nothing is beneath them; nothing.

    I’ve seen every shred of illusion I still maintained about our once-Constitutional Republic torn and shredded and utilized as impromptu toilet paper these past few years, but this purposeful misquoting of Trump – to smear him with the blood of the massacred – is the absolute end. Particularly when the only hope the next corpse-pile of dead homosexuals have at the moment is one blood-and-soil patriot determined to defang the bestial predators gleefully planning their mass murder.

    • Replies: @Ragno
    @Ragno

    Of course, that's DAILY BEAST, not DAILY BEAT.

  55. “John Legend, the singer and songwriter, Chris Sacca, the venture capitalist and George Takei, best known for his role on Star Trek, called Trump out on Twitter.

    Well-known Republicans criticized Trump as well, including Sen. John McCain’s daughter Meghan and GOP strategist Ana Navarro.”

    Well, when thought leaders like George Takei and Meghan McCain speak out, I certainly sit up and take notice.

  56. George Takei, best known for his role on Star Trek, called Trump out on Twitter.

    Heavens, no!

    Wow. The wheels are certainly coming off of THIS campaign, if he’s losing the “Washed-Up Actor From Fifty Years Ago” vote!

  57. @kihowi
    Somewhat analogous to another iSteve cliché: we got smoothly from "it's too early to mention islam" to "it's too late to mention islam, why are you so obsessed with that, we need to heal".

    Replies: @Jack D

    How dare Trump jump to conclusions that a guy who calls 911 and pledges allegiance to ISIS is a Muslim terrorist? We need Hillary’s nuanced approach where she says nothing for 8 hours while her brain trust works on a statement that will offend no one and then she denounces guns. That’s the smart “moderate” approach to these things which all intelligent people should espouse, whether they be liberals or cuckservatives.

    Every once in a while, a lion will jump out of the bush and attack a herd of grazing animals. For a moment the gazelles and zebras will scatter in fear but once they realize the attack is over for now they go right back to munching grass as if nothing happened. After all, what can you do?

    • Replies: @Buffalo Joe
    @Jack D

    Jack, You know, you hit it on the head. real politicians don't respond until their handlers/writers have crafted a response that they have vetted through a network of supporters. Trump says whatever comes to mind, kind of like what most people do. I will repeat the old Chinese proverb..."A drunken man says what a sober man thinks." And that is not a reference to any drinking problem of Trump's.

  58. @Steve Sailer
    @Hugh

    Ana Navarro is the girlfriend of the guy who owns the Biltmore Hotel where Jeb plays golf ever Saturday. That's her qualifications.

    Replies: @Louie, @dc.sunsets

    Navarro mainly exists on TV to check the “Latino/a” box on CNN panels these days

  59. I don’t think we can rule out the possibility that this was a staged event by Trump supporters (or even Trump himself). It feeds into his hateful narrative

    • Replies: @Mark2
    @Tiny Duck

    Your troll is showing. Tone it down a notch.

  60. @SFG
    @countenance

    It's almost five months till election day.

    I wonder how difficult it would be to get one of Trump's many conquests to suddenly decide she had been raped under the new, expansive feminist definitions of rape? (Steve can delete this if he wants but I doubt I'm capable of thinking up anything the left hasn't already.)

    Replies: @Lurker, @Jack D

    Trump is insulated from these charges by the fact that Bill is an actual rapist. They (being Hillary and her collaborators in the media and the Party) know they are vulnerable for having enabled and shielded Bill for decades and the pot is in no position to call the kettle black.

    Also, the type of people who get fainting spells over the kind of “rape” that happens when you change your mind months or years after the fact are already not voting for Trump and those who are voting for him figure that this is more proof that he is really a macho guy.

    • Replies: @ben tillman
    @Jack D


    Trump is insulated from these charges by the fact that Bill is an actual rapist.
     
    It's been a while, but I recall being convinced that Willey and/or Broadrick was telling the truth.
  61. @Tiny Duck
    I think there's a pretty strong case to have a news blackout on perpetrators and motivations. You'd never manage it on the atrocities themselves, but it'd be a huge step forward if the news simply reported that this had happened, and that the shooter had been killed and his identity was known, but didn't report what that was. He has his notoriety, he has his homophobic views aired, IS have their free PR for doing nothing. Once again, we've handed them most of what they want.

    Replies: @This Is Our Home, @Mr. Anon, @Tex

    “I think there’s a pretty strong case to have a news blackout on perpetrators and motivations.”

    That might be true for lunatics like the ones who committed the Newtown or the Aurora massacres, but it is not, I believe, for politically motivated atrocities like this one. These guys are not just in it for fame; they might not be in it for fame at all, but for their cause.

  62. I expect to see many terrorists attacks from the right wing after Trump loses the election.

    http://www.miamiherald.com/opinion/opn-columns-blogs/leonard-pitts-jr/article76825357.html

    A huge slice of Trump supporters have shown that they have no desire to “blend” or reach across the aisle. If they had their way, they would already have any non-white person in a concentration camp or deported.

    Things will be even worse in dealing with his supporters in the general public. They have turned a corner and I firmly believe there is no going back. They have been “empowered” by their brash nominee. The genie is out of the bottle and the bottle is filled with hate that cannot be corked again. Many of Trump’s supporters have made it clear that they have no desire to be part of our society.

    • Replies: @Eric Novak
    @Tiny Duck

    Hate is right. Hate works. Hate clarifies, cuts through and captures the essence of the evolutionary spirit. Your imaginary Hillary World fantasy won't get past millions of poll respondents who will not offer politically-incorrect choices to polling companies. Just ask a Brit. You will be slack-jawed and drooling while watching the returns on Election Night, wondering how the impossible could happen and shaking your fist at the fates who would laugh in your face.

  63. Well-known Republicans criticized Trump as well, including Sen. John McCain’s daughter Meghan…

    HAAAAA! Now that’s rich!!! Just got my laugh of the day! Meghan McCain criticized Trump, eh? I’ll bet The Donald must be wetting himself in fear…

  64. @Lurker
    @Hugh

    I have to say, I'm quite a fan of Meghan's big guns.

    Replies: @Jefferson, @Jim Don Bob, @guest

    Meghan is fat, as well as stupid,

  65. @EriK
    Seemed like nearly all the NeverTrump people thought the above tweet was the most offensive in the history of ever. This isn't news. This is look over there away from the Islamic terrorist.

    Replies: @Jack D, @Buffalo Joe

    They are understandably anxious to change the subject. There’s no way that they can spin this to make Obama and Hillary look good. The usual methods (Islam is a religion of peace, blah, blah blah) are so predictable that they have lost their power in the face of all the evidence to the contrary – you can only piss on my shoes and tell me it’s raining so many times before I notice that it ain’t really raining, no matter how stupid I am. Their dishwater strength remarks after the tragedy are a keen reminder that their approach (ask for another gun bill that they know will never pass) is completely ineffective and that these tragedies will keep happening again and again for as long as they are in power. So the sooner they can change the subject from immigration caused terrorism to how evil Donald Trump is, the better for them.

  66. @whorefinder
    The left is smelling a bit of blood on Trump after his near-apology on the La Raza judge. They're trying to force him to back down here---somehow. Hence the tail-wagging-the-dog nonsense of a "backlash"---the press is making up a backlash in order to create one.

    Never apologize. It's a sign of weakness.

    Replies: @Jack D, @Abe

    The other day, they had Trump on TV reading from a teleprompter. It was clear that his handlers had told him he had to do this in order to stop himself from going off message. He was horrible. He sounded like a robot, like the body snatchers had captured the real Trump. He didn’t get the nomination by reading from a teleprompter.

    Obama was a master teleprompter reader – if reading a teleprompter made you a great President then Obama would be our greatest President. If Obama was a 10 on teleprompter reading, Trump is a 2. I assume Trump will do this about a week before he gets sick of it and fires whoever put forth this stupid idea. The whole appeal of Trump is that he is NOT a “nuanced” speaker like Hillary who says nothing but well rehearsed diplomatic lies but a guy who tells you what he is actually thinking.

    • Replies: @candid_observer
    @Jack D

    My guess is that reading from a teleprompter is just another skill, and can readily be learned by someone with sufficient IQ -- which Trump certainly possesses -- and can be made effective insofar as one has generally the talent for speaking with good voice modulation and emphasis -- which Trump also possesses.

    There is of course a learning curve, but I hope Trump gets on board with it, because he particularly needs to master this -- it's a natural form of self-discipline.

    , @Buffalo Joe
    @Jack D

    Jack, Again you nailed it, most of the journalists on TV earn their pay by the way they "present", basically readers following a script.

    Replies: @dr kill

    , @flyingtiger
    @Jack D

    I think Lincoln would have been a better teleprompter reader. Think of how good Teddy Roosevelt would have been!

  67. @Jefferson
    Why does Minnesota and Michigan have more Muslims than Florida? When the weather in Florida is a lot more similar to the weather in The Middle East, North Africa, and Somalia.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @TheJester, @Mike Street Station, @flyingtiger, @guest

    Lots of Muslim immigrants in Minnesota and Michigan? It’s the Evangelical (a.k.a. Scandinavian) Lutheran ministries. They act as enthusiastic, compensated agents of the Federal government to and settle immigrants from MENA. It’s a good “gig” if you can get it … a place to live, furniture, clothes, a job, and occasionally a car.

    As New Age Christians, the Evangelical Lutherans apparently have a lot in common with their Scandinavian relatives in Sweden and Norway with respect to “white guilt” and the need for self-flagellation and self-destruction as penance for their sins.

    As for the weather in Minnesota compared to Florida? I guess there are not too many Evangelical Lutherans in Florida.

  68. @Clyde
    @countenance


    If effectively winning the Presidency early yesterday morning is a “backlash,” I’d wonder what things would be like when things are going good for him.
     
    Sorry but far from an automatic win. Hillary, the Dems, the media propaganda machine are hard at work trying to twist this mass killing of gays from a Muslim control issue into a gun control issue. We know that Trump has called for a hold on Muslim immigration until we re-examine our ways of vetting them.

    Replies: @Jefferson, @Chris Mallory, @Jack D, @Mike Street Station

    This is definitely far from an automatic win, if only because November is a long way away and the American public has the attention span of a flea. In 3 days this story will be replaced by the latest celebrity to drop dead or whatever. The terrorist is dead and there is only so much you can report.

    However, no one who is not already a true believer is going to be swayed by the gun control arguments. Zero people in America are going to say ” I was going to vote for Trump before this Muslim terrorist got going, but now that Hillary has advocated for gun control for the millionth time, I’ve changed my mind and am voting for her.” This will sway exactly no one. The best they can hope for is damage control – to limit the # of people who say, “Damn it, this is the last straw. Banning Muslim immigration seems extreme but nothing we are doing now seems to work. We really need to try something different and I’m going to vote for the guy with the new approach.” The only way they can do this is by totally changing the subject to how evil Donald Trump is.

  69. @Jefferson
    Why does Minnesota and Michigan have more Muslims than Florida? When the weather in Florida is a lot more similar to the weather in The Middle East, North Africa, and Somalia.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @TheJester, @Mike Street Station, @flyingtiger, @guest

    Why does Minnesota and Michigan have more Muslims than Florida? When the weather in Florida is a lot more similar to the weather in The Middle East, North Africa, and Somalia.

    I can only guess about Michigan, but I’m guessing that is where a lot of the earlier Christian Arabs settled, so the newer Muslim ones were probably attracted to an area that had similar language and food. Minnesota is more clear. That’s where the US government settled lots of Somali’s from the 90’s on. Since you are talking about a large contingent of social services dependent people, they are not going anywhere while they are hooked up into the welfare lifeline. The only Somali’s who can leave are the ones who actually integrate, get job skills and an education.

    • Replies: @415 reasons
    @Mike Street Station


    The only Somali’s who can leave are the ones who actually integrate, get job skills and an education.
     
    In practice, of course, the only Somalis that leave are the ones that head back to Somalia or Syria to wage jihad.
  70. @Clyde
    @countenance


    If effectively winning the Presidency early yesterday morning is a “backlash,” I’d wonder what things would be like when things are going good for him.
     
    Sorry but far from an automatic win. Hillary, the Dems, the media propaganda machine are hard at work trying to twist this mass killing of gays from a Muslim control issue into a gun control issue. We know that Trump has called for a hold on Muslim immigration until we re-examine our ways of vetting them.

    Replies: @Jefferson, @Chris Mallory, @Jack D, @Mike Street Station

    Sorry but far from an automatic win. Hillary, the Dems, the media propaganda machine are hard at work trying to twist this mass killing of gays from a Muslim control issue into a gun control issue. We know that Trump has called for a hold on Muslim immigration until we re-examine our ways of vetting them.

    Yeah they already have control of the talking points. That’s why the news refers to this as a “mass shooting” rather than a terrorist attack. They are lumping this in with schools shootings and pulling out the gun control arguments. I saw that demonstrated on Morning Joe this morning, so the lesson is:

    Terrorist Attack: Helps Trump? Nope find another phrase.

    Mass Shooting: Gun Control-Republicans at fault

  71. Takei cares more about being deprived of cheap Muslim rentboys than his fellow homosexuals’ lives.

  72. @Anonymous Nephew
    The shooter's father isn't playing to the script.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/the-orlando-shooters-afghan-roots/2016/06/13/d89a8cd0-30e4-11e6-ab9d-1da2b0f24f93_story.html


    "The father of the gunman in the Orlando nightclub shooting said early Monday his son shouldn’t have carried out the massacre because “God himself will punish those involved in homosexuality.”

    Seddique Mateen appeared to maintain a strong affiliation to Afghanistan, hosting a television show broadcast from California that weighed in on the country’s political affairs.

    He also filmed dozens of sparsely viewed, rambling YouTube videos portraying himself as an important Afghan analyst and leader.

    While his travel history remains unknown, Seddique Mateen apparently traveled back to Afghanistan at least occasionally.

    In 2014, during Afghanistan’s presidential campaign, he secured an inteview with Afghan President Ashraf Ghani filmed in Kabul.

    In one YouTube video, Mateen expresses gratitude toward the Afghan Taliban, while denouncing the Pakistani government.

    “Our brothers in Waziristan, our warrior brothers in [the] Taliban movement and national Afghan Taliban are rising up,” he said. “Inshallah the Durand Line issue will be solved soon.” "
     

    Replies: @carol, @CJ

    This calls to mind Fathers and Sons. A noisy but harmless radical? commentator? spawns a heartless nihilist who takes it to the next level. An American citizen!

    • Replies: @guest
    @carol

    More like Dostoevsky's The Possessed. Turgenev's nihilist didn't really do anything.

  73. I don’t believe that mass shootings just arise naturally in the U.S. like there is something in the water. This latest one features dead queers. We are being set up for further tightening of the screw. The police/surveillance state continues to extend its reach. ISIS did it? ISIS is a CIA asset. Get out of the country while you can if you can.

  74. @Jefferson
    @Lurker

    "I have to say, I’m quite a fan of Meghan’s big guns."

    Meghan McCain has porn star sized breasts.

    Replies: @Jack D, @Lurker

    Unfortunately, they are attached to the body of an overweight dwarf. And she floughts them in a trashy way. Stay classy, Meghan.

  75. Trump faces backlash for tweeting about Muslim terrorists.
    Muslims must not face backlash for producing terrorists.

    Yeah, sounds about right.

    John Legend, the singer and songwriter, Chris Sacca, the venture capitalist and George Takei, best known for his role on Star Trek, called Trump out on Twitter.

    Well-known Republicans criticized Trump as well, including Sen. John McCain’s daughter Meghan and GOP strategist Ana Navarro.

    So, a bunch of nobodies.

    Why do Minnesota and Michigan have more Muslims than Florida? When the weather in Florida is a lot more similar to the weather in The Middle East, North Africa, and Somalia.

    West Asia is as unlike Florida as any place on Earth. West Asia and north Africa are characterized more by aridity than heat. The mountains of Afghanistan (and the former Soviet ‘stans), for example, are not warm, but they are arid.

    The American west is more like west Asia and north Africa than any place in the eastern US.

    He’s right of course, so right that boasting about it seems too easy. The presidential thing to do here is to bow your head. The bodies are still warm, for goodness’ sake!

    Yep.

    If he would just be quiet, instead of saying,”see I told you so”… The people see he is right, no need to flaunt it and appear to be uncaring.

    Again, correct.

    It’s almost five months till election day.

    A lot of minds got made up yesterday. Five months won’t change that, for many.

    I wonder how difficult it would be to get one of Trump’s many conquests to suddenly decide she had been raped under the new, expansive feminist definitions of rape? (Steve can delete this if he wants but I doubt I’m capable of thinking up anything the left hasn’t already.)

    Trump: “no, please, not a chance to talk about Bill’s rape sprees every day until the election. Anything but that.”

    If such a woman exists, wouldn’t she have appeared already? After all, they wanted to unseat him before the nomination.

    Actually, unseating him after the nomination would be ideal. Just sayin’.

    when is the MSM going to start talking about the fact that the cowardly orlando cops waited outside for 3 hours eating doughnuts while Mateen was able to kill many more people inside the club before the cops finally ran out of excuses and had to go inside the nightclub and do their jobs?

    Hi troll. You should probably, you know, actually show that what you’re suggesting actually happened, first. Because I haven’t seen anything that indicates that he did any shooting between the time he took the hostages, and the time the cops went in. Cops will often go right in as soon as a hostage-taker starts shooting. Obviously.

    that is where the online blogosphere comes in, right? Chortle…

    Maybe the offline blogosphere can pick up the slack. Snicker…

    Sorry but far from an automatic win. Hillary, the Dems, the media propaganda machine are hard at work trying to twist this mass killing of gays from a Muslim control issue into a gun control issue. We know that Trump has called for a hold on Muslim immigration until we re-examine our ways of vetting them.

    This will only work on people who were a lock for the Dems anyway. Swing voters will break heavily for Trump on this issue, and a lot of dithering Republicans just made up their minds. Mateen just sent a lot of votes to Trump.

    “The father of the gunman in the Orlando nightclub shooting said early Monday his son shouldn’t have carried out the massacre because “God himself will punish those involved in homosexuality.”

    Beautiful. Muslims gotta Muslim. Thank you, Islam, thank you.

  76. @Richard of Melbourne
    Trump is learning that being right - while defying the tribal taboos - is far worse than being wrong while agreeing with the taboos.

    November - and a change of regime - can't come soon enough.

    Replies: @Grandpa Jack, @boogerbently

    Any backlash against lefties using this “tragedy” to promote gun control ?

  77. @Ragno
    It's yet another Progressive Big Lie.

    At 2.26 yesterday afternoon, gay writer Tim Teeman of the uberleftist DAILY BEAT wrote the following:


    "From Donald Trump, via Twitter, this morning: “Horrific incident in FL. Praying for all the victims & their families. When will this stop? When will we get tough, smart & vigilant?”

    http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/06/12/omar-mateen-committed-lgbt-mass-murder-we-must-confront-that.html
     

    Notice there is no boorish 'congrats' preamble. That's because his initial tweet was a properly respectful condolence; the 'congrats' tweet was obviously him responding to a follower's comment, later on (as its syntax would indicate).

    Unless you think a gay leftist would purposely downplay a grotesque gaffe like 'congrats' ON BEHALF OF DONALD TRUMP, the most hated man in the MSMverse.

    So then....why would 'congrats' go global and viral so quickly?

    Because this IS the MSM. The same MSM that watched mob rule descend on San Jose and not only refused to demand the imposition of civil order ASAP....they rewarded their columnists who encouraged even more rioting with paid vacations masquerading as some bizarre form of punishment. Nothing is beneath them; nothing.

    I've seen every shred of illusion I still maintained about our once-Constitutional Republic torn and shredded and utilized as impromptu toilet paper these past few years, but this purposeful misquoting of Trump - to smear him with the blood of the massacred - is the absolute end. Particularly when the only hope the next corpse-pile of dead homosexuals have at the moment is one blood-and-soil patriot determined to defang the bestial predators gleefully planning their mass murder.

    Replies: @Ragno

    Of course, that’s DAILY BEAST, not DAILY BEAT.

  78. @EriK
    Seemed like nearly all the NeverTrump people thought the above tweet was the most offensive in the history of ever. This isn't news. This is look over there away from the Islamic terrorist.

    Replies: @Jack D, @Buffalo Joe

    Erik, Trump has become the “Squirrel”, as in “Hey, look over there, a squirrel.” Deflect, deflect ,deflect and occasionally genuflect.

  79. Donald Trump Faces Backlash for Tweets About Orlando Shooting

    This is one of those headlines that was probably made up by the media months before it happened. The media knew that the next terrorist attack would bolster Trump’s support. It wasn’t a matter of “if,” but “when.” And Trump has a history of stating the obvious rather tactlessly. So the pundits need to act like all of this is the worst thing that’s happened to Trump, not the best. And being the media, they don’t have much of a clue as to how implausible their take on it is to the rest of us.

  80. @Jack D
    @whorefinder

    The other day, they had Trump on TV reading from a teleprompter. It was clear that his handlers had told him he had to do this in order to stop himself from going off message. He was horrible. He sounded like a robot, like the body snatchers had captured the real Trump. He didn't get the nomination by reading from a teleprompter.

    Obama was a master teleprompter reader - if reading a teleprompter made you a great President then Obama would be our greatest President. If Obama was a 10 on teleprompter reading, Trump is a 2. I assume Trump will do this about a week before he gets sick of it and fires whoever put forth this stupid idea. The whole appeal of Trump is that he is NOT a "nuanced" speaker like Hillary who says nothing but well rehearsed diplomatic lies but a guy who tells you what he is actually thinking.

    Replies: @candid_observer, @Buffalo Joe, @flyingtiger

    My guess is that reading from a teleprompter is just another skill, and can readily be learned by someone with sufficient IQ — which Trump certainly possesses — and can be made effective insofar as one has generally the talent for speaking with good voice modulation and emphasis — which Trump also possesses.

    There is of course a learning curve, but I hope Trump gets on board with it, because he particularly needs to master this — it’s a natural form of self-discipline.

  81. A backlash among the SJW elite can only make Trump more popular with the majority of Americans.

  82. @Jack D
    @kihowi

    How dare Trump jump to conclusions that a guy who calls 911 and pledges allegiance to ISIS is a Muslim terrorist? We need Hillary's nuanced approach where she says nothing for 8 hours while her brain trust works on a statement that will offend no one and then she denounces guns. That's the smart "moderate" approach to these things which all intelligent people should espouse, whether they be liberals or cuckservatives.

    Every once in a while, a lion will jump out of the bush and attack a herd of grazing animals. For a moment the gazelles and zebras will scatter in fear but once they realize the attack is over for now they go right back to munching grass as if nothing happened. After all, what can you do?

    Replies: @Buffalo Joe

    Jack, You know, you hit it on the head. real politicians don’t respond until their handlers/writers have crafted a response that they have vetted through a network of supporters. Trump says whatever comes to mind, kind of like what most people do. I will repeat the old Chinese proverb…”A drunken man says what a sober man thinks.” And that is not a reference to any drinking problem of Trump’s.

  83. @Jack D
    @whorefinder

    The other day, they had Trump on TV reading from a teleprompter. It was clear that his handlers had told him he had to do this in order to stop himself from going off message. He was horrible. He sounded like a robot, like the body snatchers had captured the real Trump. He didn't get the nomination by reading from a teleprompter.

    Obama was a master teleprompter reader - if reading a teleprompter made you a great President then Obama would be our greatest President. If Obama was a 10 on teleprompter reading, Trump is a 2. I assume Trump will do this about a week before he gets sick of it and fires whoever put forth this stupid idea. The whole appeal of Trump is that he is NOT a "nuanced" speaker like Hillary who says nothing but well rehearsed diplomatic lies but a guy who tells you what he is actually thinking.

    Replies: @candid_observer, @Buffalo Joe, @flyingtiger

    Jack, Again you nailed it, most of the journalists on TV earn their pay by the way they “present”, basically readers following a script.

    • Replies: @dr kill
    @Buffalo Joe

    Correct. In the rest of the world that's just what they call them.

  84. I’ve seen any number of reactions to Trump’s horrible, very bad, terrible tweet about appreciating congrats but not wanting them.

    But what I haven’t seen is any reaction to one of Trump’s earlier tweets, regarding Obama’s potential reaction:

    Is President Obama going to finally mention the words radical Islamic terrorism? If he doesn’t he should immediately resign in disgrace!

    Why hasn’t this been brought up?

    Well, precisely because it is so embarrassing for the left. On some level they know that it’s not right to be unable to speak certain words, and, moreover, they know that seeing those words in print is awful for their cause.

    What kind of movement is it that requires for its survival that certain phrases never be spoken, even if they are utterly accurate?

  85. Abe says: • Website
    @whorefinder
    The left is smelling a bit of blood on Trump after his near-apology on the La Raza judge. They're trying to force him to back down here---somehow. Hence the tail-wagging-the-dog nonsense of a "backlash"---the press is making up a backlash in order to create one.

    Never apologize. It's a sign of weakness.

    Replies: @Jack D, @Abe

    The left is smelling a bit of blood on Trump after his near-apology on the La Raza judge. They’re trying to force him to back down here—somehow. Hence the tail-wagging-the-dog nonsense of a “backlash”—the press is making up a backlash in order to create one.

    Never apologize. It’s a sign of weakness

    Dave Pinsen posted a scan of a Jacob Weisberg editorial, in which Weisberg makes the worst sales pitch ever- “Libertarians: your ideas are stupid, and sometimes downright evil, and because most of you are such basement-dwelling weirdos I can’t say I even have enough respect to fear you like I would neo-Nazis. But if you complete this suicide mission of drawing just enough support away from Trump to torpedo his candidacy, you may get a few crumbs of posthumous approval from me. Maybe.”

    Romney- who I still maintain is probably the most outstanding human being to run for the Presidency in the last 50 years- has this exact white knight, self-destruct sequence that Weisberg is trying to activate in Libertarians. I mean, sure, fawning footnotes from Doris Kearns Goodwin III and Arthur Muhammad Schlesinger IV about how he valiantly convinced Republicans to go down to flaming defeat in 2016 in order to save the soul of the GOP are nice, but I think he seriously believes nothing less than honor demands he take out Trump, and he’d happily do so even if nobody was around to see. And yet Romney- the image of the strong, lantern-jawed 50’s patriarch- crumbles when dissed by anyone outside his party. He’s like the good-dad who stands up to the loud, drunk uncle ruining Thanksgiving by being rude to his daughter’s black boyfriend (Trump), and then stands silently by as said boyfriend hectors them about what privileged, racist pigs they are before confiscating the family silverware to pawn later in support of BLM activism.

    What I’m saying is that Orlando makes acceptance-craving Republicans like Romney and Schwarzenegger, vaporing over Trump’s Mexican judge “racism”, look pathetic and weak because everyone knows they would have done absolutely nothing to prevent this.

    While playing this classy and low-key, in a sort of run-out-the-clock strategy, may be the wise thing to do, low-key is not what got him here, so Trump should take the opportunity to double-down and own this. Reach out to gays and say he’s the only one who’d keep them safe. Yeah, I’m sure a couple big-name lefty gays would try and slap away the hand offered him (“not in my name”, yadda yadda) and that’s when Trump should just double down. “Yeah, I admit it. I’m sort of a bully. But I’m the only one who can protect you whether you personally like me or not. I’m the bully you need.” #BullyYouNeed

    • Replies: @Dave Pinsen
    @Abe

    Here's the tweet with that Jacob Weisberg column. I was expecting a letter writer to call him on his ahistorical nonsense about Lincoln this weekend, but no dice.
    https://twitter.com/dpinsen/status/739345340042743808

  86. OT: Susan Faludi, author of the 1991 feminist polemic “Backlash,” has a new book out about her father, who became a transgender woman at the age of 76.

    http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/life/books/susan-faludi-the-feminist-whose-violent-dad-told-her-hed-never-been-that-macho-and-was-becoming-a-woman-34790284.html

    http://www.nytimes.com/2016/06/13/books/review-father-was-a-vicious-bully-then-he-became-a-woman.html?_r=0

    The Belfast Telegraph reviewer is a lot more candid about the issues Faludi raises than the NY Times reviewer.

    • Replies: @Anonymous Nephew
    @Richard

    So she wanted to go to a Christian summer camp, and her father bashed her head on the floor because "they exterminated the Jews"?

    Are those attitudes commonly passed down in Jewish families, or is he a loopy outlier?

    Replies: @Olorin

    , @Anonymous
    @Richard

    Very creepy, very interesting articles. I'm surprised the NYT would publish anything that spoke of a Jewish tranny in less than glowing terms. Istvan Faludi, like so many transwomen, sounds completely unhinged. And very much delusional.


    At moments, Stefánie herself seems to conflate her change in sex with a kind of religious conversion. When she attends an opera in an old synagogue with Ms. Faludi, she tells her daughter that her fellow patrons are all looking at her and saying to one another, “There’s an overdressed shiksa.”
     
    Lol
    , @Olorin
    @Richard

    If you're drinking coffee that you want to spew, search on the headline:

    AT HOME WITH: Susan Faludi and Russ Rymer; Sympathy for Men, Empathy With One

    NYT, October 21, 1999.

  87. I do wonder what’s going to happen to the likes of George Takei.

    Sure, he takes up the standard progressive line and finds a way to blame Trump in the midst of this tragedy visited upon gays, of whom, of course, he is one.

    But I’m sure there are going to be many, many gays who have enough rational self preservation to want to fight the real enemy here, which is of course Islam.

    I can’t imagine that these gays are going to be happy with the standard diversion tactics of the George Takei’s of the world. George Takei isn’t going to be doing a single thing that will actually make them safer, and will only undermine efforts that will.

    • Replies: @candid_observer
    @candid_observer

    Apropos of this, I just read this regarding Barney Frank's reaction, breaking ranks along the lines I suggested:


    Mr. Frank also said, commenting that this would irk his friends on the political left: “There is an Islamic element here. Yes, the overwhelming majority of Muslims don’t do this, but there is clearly, sadly, an element in the interpretation of Islam that has some currency, some interpretation in the Middle East that encourages killing people — and L.G.B.T. people are on that list. And I think it is fair to ask leaders of the Islamic community, religious and otherwise, to spend some time combating this.’’

    Third — and this, he said, “may be the most controversial” of his views: The attack “reinforces the case for significant surveillance by law enforcement of people who have given some indication of adoption of these angry Islamic hate views.” The gunman had been questioned by the F.B.I. “If they had continued to surveil him, that would have led to some A.C.L.U. criticism – and they would have been wrong. I wish they had surveiled him more, not less.’’
     

    http://www.nytimes.com/live/orlando-nightclub-shooting-live-updates/barney-frank/

    Replies: @Jim Don Bob, @Big Bill

    , @Jack Hanson
    @candid_observer

    Takei lives in ultra white Show Low, Arizona, surrounded by gun owning conservatives.

    Make of that what you will.

  88. This probably helped boost him with Floridian Hispanics.

  89. Never mind; my error.

  90. @candid_observer
    I do wonder what's going to happen to the likes of George Takei.

    Sure, he takes up the standard progressive line and finds a way to blame Trump in the midst of this tragedy visited upon gays, of whom, of course, he is one.

    But I'm sure there are going to be many, many gays who have enough rational self preservation to want to fight the real enemy here, which is of course Islam.

    I can't imagine that these gays are going to be happy with the standard diversion tactics of the George Takei's of the world. George Takei isn't going to be doing a single thing that will actually make them safer, and will only undermine efforts that will.

    Replies: @candid_observer, @Jack Hanson

    Apropos of this, I just read this regarding Barney Frank’s reaction, breaking ranks along the lines I suggested:

    Mr. Frank also said, commenting that this would irk his friends on the political left: “There is an Islamic element here. Yes, the overwhelming majority of Muslims don’t do this, but there is clearly, sadly, an element in the interpretation of Islam that has some currency, some interpretation in the Middle East that encourages killing people — and L.G.B.T. people are on that list. And I think it is fair to ask leaders of the Islamic community, religious and otherwise, to spend some time combating this.’’

    Third — and this, he said, “may be the most controversial” of his views: The attack “reinforces the case for significant surveillance by law enforcement of people who have given some indication of adoption of these angry Islamic hate views.” The gunman had been questioned by the F.B.I. “If they had continued to surveil him, that would have led to some A.C.L.U. criticism – and they would have been wrong. I wish they had surveiled him more, not less.’’

    http://www.nytimes.com/live/orlando-nightclub-shooting-live-updates/barney-frank/

    • Replies: @Jim Don Bob
    @candid_observer

    Barney Franks speaks the truth; too bad the interview was not conducted from a federal penitentiary where he and Chris Dodd (Mr. Irish Cottage) so richly belong.

    , @Big Bill
    @candid_observer

    Barney Frank after Kristallnacht:


    Mr. Frank also said, commenting that this would irk his friends on the political left: “There is a Nazi element here. Yes, the overwhelming majority of Nazis don’t do this, but there is clearly, sadly, an element in the interpretation of Nazism that has some currency, some interpretation in Germany that encourages killing people — and Jewish. people are on that list. And I think it is fair to ask leaders of the Nazi community, religious and otherwise, to spend some time combating this.’’
     
    Ahh. If only Jews had taken such calm, nuanced, measured, thoughtful tones in 1938. But instead they declared war on the Nazis and caused them to feel threatened and get angry.

    Replies: @Forbes

  91. @Jefferson
    @Lurker

    "I have to say, I’m quite a fan of Meghan’s big guns."

    Meghan McCain has porn star sized breasts.

    Replies: @Jack D, @Lurker

    My guilty pleasure.

  92. @Pat Hannagan
    Homosexuality, like gender, is a choice. This truth I find self-evident.

    Let them defend it and inspire us with their valour:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SezoGW_z9w0

    Replies: @Pat Hannagan, @PiltdownMan, @Anonymous

    Wow. That’s got to be the gayest, cheesiest video I’ve ever seen. The song is like a SJW anthem. I actually kind of like The Pet Shop Boys, but I’ve never heard this song before.

    • Replies: @CJ
    @Anonymous


    That’s got to be the gayest, cheesiest video I’ve ever seen.
     
    Are you too young to have been around for the original?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1wc-AQJ2MYo

    Village People - Go West OFFICIAL Music Video 1979
  93. @dearieme
    I'm just waiting for some Democrat supporter to suggest that Orlando was a black flag event organised by Trump supporters. 10, 9, 8, 7, ......

    Replies: @Lurker

    More plausibly, by the deep state. But then wouldn’t their media i.e. all of it – be giving him an easier ride?

    • Replies: @Sean
    @Lurker

    You'r overthinking it, the Orlando shootings were by a Muslim, it is a fair bet that the perpetrator disapproves of Trump and has not been under a rock in for the last year. He was no dummy--this is killing Trump. Not because of his reaction but because it creates a impression that the closer Trump gets to the White House the more Americans will be in danger. If I was willing to stop Trump by any means necessar, I would do it just that way. Nothing the Donald might have said about Orlando can fight the impact of massacres that he is the putative beneficiary of. So Omar Mateen wins even in death.

    No, this is in effect a strategy of tension in which the population considering a radical departure from the establishment get confronted with alarming portents and , and much more dreadful things which may come if they vote for the radical reformer. Security lies with more of the same, and Clinton will pray for more massacres if she is wise. It doesn't really matter who does the mass killing or why, Trump will become associated with terrifying slaughter, And don't think this is the last.

    Replies: @Ragno, @Eric Novak, @Tex, @Jefferson

  94. Abe says: • Website

    Trump should also make a talking-point of how by refusing to do anything effective to stop these sorts of attacks, and only arguing they need expanded powers to try and (maybe) foil the next one, the accrual of said power and privilege may be the elites’ real goal. Michael Bloomberg doesn’t want some farmer in Nebraska owning an “assault rifles”, but thinks it perfectly appropriate for a VIP like himself to go around with TOW missile-armed security detail. We need to have crypto backdoors* installed in all our mobile phones and online devices, but Madame Secretary gets her own private email server.

    * Interesting to note that Silicon Valley geeks, despite usually sneering at “gun nuts”, are just as absolutist and indifferent to social good arguments when it comes to crypto as Ted Nugent is when it comes to any sort of firearms controls.

  95. @Pat Hannagan
    @Pat Hannagan

    We must allow the homosexual to rise up and fight against this insolence:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-R1yBYDo0Wg

    Replies: @PiltdownMan, @Lurker

    Pat, I may have asked you before – are you the Aussie, tunnel runner blog Pat?

  96. Off topic

    How did Steve miss reviewing or watching Zootopia? It’s a movie about animals living in a progressive society that is composed of predators and prey living together amicably. Except some predators start going on rampages and threatening this harmony. Stereotypically believed to be incapable of becoming a police officer because of her species, a rabbit is assigned to the case while simultaneously flouting species standards.

    At one point the bunny cop gets into the trouble for remarking to the press about how the biological traits probably cause the predators to revert to being vicious.

    It’s about as iSteve as it gets.

  97. Likewise, New Yorker editor David Remnick is enraged by Trump’s tweet:

    He feeds his constituents daily with the misbegotten notion that the country is being flooded with countless unchecked “aliens” from the Middle East, South Asia, and Mexico.

    MMM, let’s see. Does the USA have high levels of immigration (both legal and illegal)? Yes.
    Are these people who are flooding in aliens? Yes.

    Seems that “misbegotten” is the current PC term for unpalatable truths….

  98. @Grandpa Jack
    @Richard of Melbourne

    If he would just be quiet, instead of saying,"see I told you so"... The people see he is right, no need to flaunt it and appear to be uncaring. He really needs to get a PR advisor. if he already has one, he should fire him, and replace him with someone who doesn't keep letting things happen.

    Replies: @Phil, @The Millennial Falcon, @The most deplorable one, @guest, @Tex, @Forbes, @Bill

    Capacity for shame is not something the American electorate has rewarded.

    This reminds of the endless conservative pundit griping over Obama or Clinton affecting outrageous Southern accents when addressing black crowds. Blatant, condescending pandering! they cry. So offensive!

    And yet black crowds eat it up.

    If you aren’t willing to play the game to win, you are going to lose.

  99. Abe says: • Website

    OT, but not exactly, given that there may be some effort to “whitewash” the Orlando shooter while stridently demanding that Rumi, Moses and the Pharaohs, yada yada be recognized as decidedly doubleplusgood unwhite:

    http://www.salon.com/2016/06/09/leonardo_dicaprio_will_ruin_a_rumi_movie_and_not_just_because_hes_a_white_guy/

    To paraphrase Caldwell’s excellent bon mot, we move slowly and imperceptibly from a world where it was cool and hip and trendy to dance to Rumi’s verses in a cheesy world music pastiche compilation album (and I admit it, back in the day I was one of those spastic Dave Byrne “dancing” world music geeks) to one where it is problematic to perform careful exegesis on his poems in a grueling Orientalism seminar that is only 2, instead of 3, days long.

    • Replies: @Percy Gryce
    @Abe


    To paraphrase Caldwell’s excellent bon mot, we move slowly and imperceptibly from a world where it was cool and hip and trendy to dance to Rumi’s verses in a cheesy world music pastiche compilation album (and I admit it, back in the day I was one of those spastic Dave Byrne “dancing” world music geeks) to one where it is problematic to perform careful exegesis on his poems in a grueling Orientalism seminar that is only 2, instead of 3, days long.
     
    That's a helluva a paraphrase--and personal confession, to boot.

    Let me guess: in your CD rack you had Deep Forest, Dead Can Dance, and some Benedictine chant or Tuvan throat singing.

    Speaking of Deep Forest, here they are culturally appropriating the music of Steve's beloved pygmies:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jlof_2lqQH8

    Replies: @Abe

  100. The most deplorable one [AKA "Fourth doorman of the apocalypse"] says:
    @Grandpa Jack
    @Richard of Melbourne

    If he would just be quiet, instead of saying,"see I told you so"... The people see he is right, no need to flaunt it and appear to be uncaring. He really needs to get a PR advisor. if he already has one, he should fire him, and replace him with someone who doesn't keep letting things happen.

    Replies: @Phil, @The Millennial Falcon, @The most deplorable one, @guest, @Tex, @Forbes, @Bill

    Among all the sickening nonsense the TV channels were showing last night was a healthy bunch of references to Trump.

    I think he has done the correct thing.

  101. The most deplorable one [AKA "Trump\'s Hellhounds"] says:
    • Replies: @Inquiring Mind
    @The most deplorable one

    Yeah, what is with the Hillary Clinton campaign emblem?

    I actually think the Obama Campaign "O" emblem is pretty good -- it is a circle, and it is inclusive, and in encompasses the flag stripes in the form of plow furrows showing the contour of the fertile land. It may be Socialist in a "This Land is Your Land, This Land is My Land" kind of way, but we all liked that song in spite of its underlying left-wing politics.

    What is with that arrow -- it is pointing rightward, so Hillary Clinton is signaling Fascist sympathies? It is this big fat arrow -- does that mean we will all "get the shaft"?

    OK, OK, in our culture where we read from left to right, the rightward arrow denotes Progress, and Ms. Clinton is a Progressive in the sense that she wants to change everything in the name of Progress? Just saying that the Obama O was immune to satire unless a person wanted to make a complete fool of themselves whereas the Hillary Arrow, let the games begin!

    Replies: @guest, @Abe

  102. @Jefferson
    Why does Minnesota and Michigan have more Muslims than Florida? When the weather in Florida is a lot more similar to the weather in The Middle East, North Africa, and Somalia.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @TheJester, @Mike Street Station, @flyingtiger, @guest

    Welfare. When I was younger, the plan was to flee to the snow states to escape from the mahogany mob. We figured they hated the cold and snow. We never thought thatwelfare would bring them in.

  103. I have looked at the conspiracy sites, and their views are interesting. I am imagining that there is a meeting this morning at the Department of False Flags. (DFF)
    Boss: “Darn it, couldn’t you fine a white Christian to do this? We will never be able to take their guns away!”
    “Sorry, boss. He was the only one who would volunteer.”

    It is sometimes hard to get things done in a deep state.

  104. @Ozymandias
    Suggested improvements:

    1. Disney would have been the ideal location.

    2. Should have imported Muslim wife for co-shooter.

    3. Next time, buy US government guns from Mexican Cartel.

    Replies: @Travis

    the perp could have killed more people using gasoline to strategically torch the nightclub. The politicians could not blame it on guns , but more people would have died.

    • Replies: @Jim Don Bob
    @Travis

    It is hard to believe that the victims stood around and did nothing while Omar shot 100+ of them. It takes a while to shoot that many people; I am sure he had to reload at some point during the three hours he was in there. Just WTF happened?

    Replies: @Travis

    , @Ozymandias
    @Travis

    By "improve" I did not mean increased body count, I meant more irony pie in the Left's face.

    Replies: @Travis

  105. Stop the presses – Ana Navarro is well-known? Well-known for what exactly?

    Trump was right – the establishment is shaking that this will perpetuate a Trump victory in November..

    TWNIAa

  106. @Anonymous
    @Jefferson


    Why does Minnesota and Michigan have more Muslims than Florida? When the weather in Florida is a lot more similar to the weather in The Middle East, North Africa, and Somalia.
     
    I saw this addressed by libertarian economist Thomas DiLorenzo, who asked why immigrants from tropical climates (e.g., Dominican Republic, Honduras, et al.) pass up a lot of warm Southern states to head to places like Massachusetts, etc. He said the reason is obvious. Welfare.

    Replies: @Hodag

    There have been generations of Middle Eastern people in Detroit for whatever reason. I think it was they are willing to serve blacks and charge high prices.

    Minnesota is due to Lutheran Social Services, a major contractor in refugee resettlement. They make a ton of money doing it. Also in Aurora, IL.

    Philadelphia Cricket last weekend, Oakmont this week. Very excited.

    • Replies: @Justpassingby
    @Hodag


    There have been generations of Middle Eastern people in Detroit for whatever reason.
     
    Almost all of whom were Syrian and Lebanese Christians, who came when there were still good, high paying jobs with the auto companies.
  107. Because the most important thing isn’t whether what you say is true or false, it’s how it makes people feel! /s

  108. @Jack D
    @whorefinder

    The other day, they had Trump on TV reading from a teleprompter. It was clear that his handlers had told him he had to do this in order to stop himself from going off message. He was horrible. He sounded like a robot, like the body snatchers had captured the real Trump. He didn't get the nomination by reading from a teleprompter.

    Obama was a master teleprompter reader - if reading a teleprompter made you a great President then Obama would be our greatest President. If Obama was a 10 on teleprompter reading, Trump is a 2. I assume Trump will do this about a week before he gets sick of it and fires whoever put forth this stupid idea. The whole appeal of Trump is that he is NOT a "nuanced" speaker like Hillary who says nothing but well rehearsed diplomatic lies but a guy who tells you what he is actually thinking.

    Replies: @candid_observer, @Buffalo Joe, @flyingtiger

    I think Lincoln would have been a better teleprompter reader. Think of how good Teddy Roosevelt would have been!

  109. The most deplorable one [AKA "Trump\'s Hellhounds"] says:

    I guess Trump will learn his lesson soon:

  110. @Travis
    @Ozymandias

    the perp could have killed more people using gasoline to strategically torch the nightclub. The politicians could not blame it on guns , but more people would have died.

    Replies: @Jim Don Bob, @Ozymandias

    It is hard to believe that the victims stood around and did nothing while Omar shot 100+ of them. It takes a while to shoot that many people; I am sure he had to reload at some point during the three hours he was in there. Just WTF happened?

    • Replies: @Travis
    @Jim Don Bob

    true, it is difficult to understand, especially since Omar was able to phone the police during the rampage to express his allegiance to ISIS. Could be that many of the rooms at the club were difficult to flee from and so many hid in the bathrooms. I was in a gay club once, and the bathrooms were used for orgies, so many of them were probably caught in the act with their pants around their ankles, making it difficult to run.

  111. @The most deplorable one
    Dilbert on Hillery

    https://twitter.com/vaportrump/status/742386272228933633

    Replies: @Inquiring Mind

    Yeah, what is with the Hillary Clinton campaign emblem?

    I actually think the Obama Campaign “O” emblem is pretty good — it is a circle, and it is inclusive, and in encompasses the flag stripes in the form of plow furrows showing the contour of the fertile land. It may be Socialist in a “This Land is Your Land, This Land is My Land” kind of way, but we all liked that song in spite of its underlying left-wing politics.

    What is with that arrow — it is pointing rightward, so Hillary Clinton is signaling Fascist sympathies? It is this big fat arrow — does that mean we will all “get the shaft”?

    OK, OK, in our culture where we read from left to right, the rightward arrow denotes Progress, and Ms. Clinton is a Progressive in the sense that she wants to change everything in the name of Progress? Just saying that the Obama O was immune to satire unless a person wanted to make a complete fool of themselves whereas the Hillary Arrow, let the games begin!

    • Replies: @guest
    @Inquiring Mind

    This land is your land
    This land is my land
    Seems one or both of us
    Has a false deed to this land

    , @Abe
    @Inquiring Mind


    Yeah, what is with the Hillary Clinton campaign emblem?

     

    It looks like a syringe about to poke into you, which brings up unwelcome associations with Nurse Ratched.
  112. Someone did an awfully convincing spoof of Trump’s Twitter account early yesterday morning, using the word “fags” and referencing Rubio. I was sure all hell was going to break loose in the media. It was RT’d a thousand times but it went down the memory hole. I didn’t believe it and thought Anonymous had done it.

    Anyone else see it?

  113. @Steven J.
    The media doesn't have enough bandwidth to cover all of Trump's provocative remarks and it's awesome.

    Replies: @Percy Gryce

    Flood the zone. That’s not a bad strategy.

  114. @Lurker
    @dearieme

    More plausibly, by the deep state. But then wouldn't their media i.e. all of it - be giving him an easier ride?

    Replies: @Sean

    You’r overthinking it, the Orlando shootings were by a Muslim, it is a fair bet that the perpetrator disapproves of Trump and has not been under a rock in for the last year. He was no dummy–this is killing Trump. Not because of his reaction but because it creates a impression that the closer Trump gets to the White House the more Americans will be in danger. If I was willing to stop Trump by any means necessar, I would do it just that way. Nothing the Donald might have said about Orlando can fight the impact of massacres that he is the putative beneficiary of. So Omar Mateen wins even in death.

    No, this is in effect a strategy of tension in which the population considering a radical departure from the establishment get confronted with alarming portents and , and much more dreadful things which may come if they vote for the radical reformer. Security lies with more of the same, and Clinton will pray for more massacres if she is wise. It doesn’t really matter who does the mass killing or why, Trump will become associated with terrifying slaughter, And don’t think this is the last.

    • Disagree: Ozymandias
    • Replies: @Ragno
    @Sean

    Ah yes.....your kid comes home with a bloody nose and you brace him with "What did you say to make them angry?"

    Unless your kid is black, brown, a girl, queer or a humpbacked island cannibal, in which case you blink back tears as you speed-dial your attorney.

    , @Eric Novak
    @Sean

    Nobody connects Trump with increasing terror. Even mongoloids know of the connection between Islam and violence.

    , @Tex
    @Sean

    I don't doubt that some people will take the line you suggest. However, I doubt that a significant proportion are uncommitted. In other words, that's a nice talking point if you are already #NeverTrump.

    I think a more common reaction is to want to resist. People look at San Jose or Orlando or whatever happened last, sympathize with the victims, and look to punish the perpetrator& their sympathizers by rallying to the most vocal opponent, Trump.

    I am horrified and disgusted by what happened, but not at all fearful. I am not deterred in the least from voting for Trump. I suspect a great many others in the neutral camp have a similar reaction and move closer to Trump.

    , @Jefferson
    @Sean

    "the closer Trump gets to the White House the more Americans will be in danger."

    This Orlando terrorist attack occurred under Barack Hussein Obama's watch, not Donald Trump's watch.

    You know what they say about stones and glass houses. The Left can't say Americans will be in more danger under Donald's watch without contradicting themselves and coming off as hypocrites. The Obama administration has done an extremely horrible job of stopping terrorist plot attacks before they happen.

  115. ACLU lawyers are blaming the Christian Right for the Muslim terrorist’s actions. It’s like leftists are bored with power, and want to shed followers.

  116. @Richard
    OT: Susan Faludi, author of the 1991 feminist polemic "Backlash," has a new book out about her father, who became a transgender woman at the age of 76.

    http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/life/books/susan-faludi-the-feminist-whose-violent-dad-told-her-hed-never-been-that-macho-and-was-becoming-a-woman-34790284.html

    http://www.nytimes.com/2016/06/13/books/review-father-was-a-vicious-bully-then-he-became-a-woman.html?_r=0

    The Belfast Telegraph reviewer is a lot more candid about the issues Faludi raises than the NY Times reviewer.

    Replies: @Anonymous Nephew, @Anonymous, @Olorin

    So she wanted to go to a Christian summer camp, and her father bashed her head on the floor because “they exterminated the Jews”?

    Are those attitudes commonly passed down in Jewish families, or is he a loopy outlier?

    • Replies: @Olorin
    @Anonymous Nephew

    The kind of fierce ingroup breeding protection (population genetics strategy) Faludi's father demonstrated would be called by the left and MSM a mental disorder if a white father did it. Muslims get a pass for that sort of thing (it's just their culture), also Hispanics.

    So what's the message? That violent men are really women? Talk about backlash!

    Seems the nutcake didn't fall far from the table in Faludi's case, as evidenced by this quote from the Belfast review:


    "I remember exactly what I said," her father replies. "That they exterminated the Jews, and how could you do this?" Faludi concludes: "I didn't correct her. Whatever the actual words, I understood this is what they meant to her." She reaches over, squeezes her father's hand, and says: "It's okay."
     
  117. @Grandpa Jack
    @Jefferson

    He was offended by gays, not 5 yr olds

    Replies: @Stan Adams, @Anonymous, @Big Bill

    There are loads of gays working at Disney. (Ask the hateful, homophobic Southern Baptists, who once waged an eight-year jihad against the unclean Mouse House.)

    I know a guy who once took his family to Disney World on Gay Day … he made the mistake of wearing a red shirt. His two little boys learned that you don’t need a boat to go cruising.

  118. @Grandpa Jack
    @Jefferson

    He was offended by gays, not 5 yr olds

    Replies: @Stan Adams, @Anonymous, @Big Bill

    Mateen chose gays, but good, pious Muslims are offended by a great many things, including the existence of all kuffar, no matter their age or their other sins.

  119. @Abe
    OT, but not exactly, given that there may be some effort to "whitewash" the Orlando shooter while stridently demanding that Rumi, Moses and the Pharaohs, yada yada be recognized as decidedly doubleplusgood unwhite:

    http://www.salon.com/2016/06/09/leonardo_dicaprio_will_ruin_a_rumi_movie_and_not_just_because_hes_a_white_guy/

    To paraphrase Caldwell's excellent bon mot, we move slowly and imperceptibly from a world where it was cool and hip and trendy to dance to Rumi's verses in a cheesy world music pastiche compilation album (and I admit it, back in the day I was one of those spastic Dave Byrne "dancing" world music geeks) to one where it is problematic to perform careful exegesis on his poems in a grueling Orientalism seminar that is only 2, instead of 3, days long.

    Replies: @Percy Gryce

    To paraphrase Caldwell’s excellent bon mot, we move slowly and imperceptibly from a world where it was cool and hip and trendy to dance to Rumi’s verses in a cheesy world music pastiche compilation album (and I admit it, back in the day I was one of those spastic Dave Byrne “dancing” world music geeks) to one where it is problematic to perform careful exegesis on his poems in a grueling Orientalism seminar that is only 2, instead of 3, days long.

    That’s a helluva a paraphrase–and personal confession, to boot.

    Let me guess: in your CD rack you had Deep Forest, Dead Can Dance, and some Benedictine chant or Tuvan throat singing.

    Speaking of Deep Forest, here they are culturally appropriating the music of Steve’s beloved pygmies:

    • Replies: @Abe
    @Percy Gryce


    Let me guess: in your CD rack you had Deep Forest, Dead Can Dance, and some Benedictine chant or Tuvan throat singing.
     
    (I recently noticed many of the tracks in my iTunes library sounded kinnda crappy, and realized most of the music there was encoded in the old 128K format from 10 years ago instead of the more recent 256. So having just recently pulled out most of my old CD collection to re-rip it I can say)- HA HA, you are exactly right! In addition to the 5-6 discs worth of Deep Forest, Dead Can Dance, and Spanish monk chant, though, is Enya (the Journey or Phil Collins of world beat, I know, but I still like her), the excellent MUSIC OF HILDEGARD VON BINGEN: VISION I- and where it all started for me- Peter Gabriel's soundtrack to THE LAST TEMPTATION OF CHRIST!
  120. @Anonymous Nephew
    The shooter's father isn't playing to the script.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/the-orlando-shooters-afghan-roots/2016/06/13/d89a8cd0-30e4-11e6-ab9d-1da2b0f24f93_story.html


    "The father of the gunman in the Orlando nightclub shooting said early Monday his son shouldn’t have carried out the massacre because “God himself will punish those involved in homosexuality.”

    Seddique Mateen appeared to maintain a strong affiliation to Afghanistan, hosting a television show broadcast from California that weighed in on the country’s political affairs.

    He also filmed dozens of sparsely viewed, rambling YouTube videos portraying himself as an important Afghan analyst and leader.

    While his travel history remains unknown, Seddique Mateen apparently traveled back to Afghanistan at least occasionally.

    In 2014, during Afghanistan’s presidential campaign, he secured an inteview with Afghan President Ashraf Ghani filmed in Kabul.

    In one YouTube video, Mateen expresses gratitude toward the Afghan Taliban, while denouncing the Pakistani government.

    “Our brothers in Waziristan, our warrior brothers in [the] Taliban movement and national Afghan Taliban are rising up,” he said. “Inshallah the Durand Line issue will be solved soon.” "
     

    Replies: @carol, @CJ

    … his son shouldn’t have carried out the massacre because “God himself will punish those involved in homosexuality.”

    That sounds more like Christianity than Islam. Romans 12:19, the King James Version:

    Vengeance is mine, I will repay, saith the Lord.

    • Replies: @passerby
    @CJ

    who ever needs context?

    ^-feel free to quote, but, whatever you do, don't present your enemies case honestly, to yourself or others.

    18 If it be possible, as much as lieth in you, live peaceably with all men.

    19 Dearly beloved, avenge not yourselves, but rather give place unto wrath: for it is written, Vengeance is mine; I will repay, saith the Lord.

    20 Therefore if thine enemy hunger, feed him; if he thirst, give him drink: for in so doing thou shalt heap coals of fire on his head.

    21 Be not overcome of evil, but overcome evil with good.

    Replies: @CJ

  121. According to Trump, Hillary has now finally embraced the term, “Radical Islamic Terror”:

    https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/742370798850199552

    Boy, her focus groups must have come down hard on her after Orlando!

  122. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Richard
    OT: Susan Faludi, author of the 1991 feminist polemic "Backlash," has a new book out about her father, who became a transgender woman at the age of 76.

    http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/life/books/susan-faludi-the-feminist-whose-violent-dad-told-her-hed-never-been-that-macho-and-was-becoming-a-woman-34790284.html

    http://www.nytimes.com/2016/06/13/books/review-father-was-a-vicious-bully-then-he-became-a-woman.html?_r=0

    The Belfast Telegraph reviewer is a lot more candid about the issues Faludi raises than the NY Times reviewer.

    Replies: @Anonymous Nephew, @Anonymous, @Olorin

    Very creepy, very interesting articles. I’m surprised the NYT would publish anything that spoke of a Jewish tranny in less than glowing terms. Istvan Faludi, like so many transwomen, sounds completely unhinged. And very much delusional.

    At moments, Stefánie herself seems to conflate her change in sex with a kind of religious conversion. When she attends an opera in an old synagogue with Ms. Faludi, she tells her daughter that her fellow patrons are all looking at her and saying to one another, “There’s an overdressed shiksa.”

    Lol

  123. Twitter produces an endless supply of what Daniel Boorstin called “pseudo-events,” which are mother’s milk to the newsmedia. The thing Trump is being criticized for didn’t really happen. At most, he failed to control Public Relations like a good political robot. If you want politicians and everyone else to sound like robots, by all means, continue this line of “news” reporting.

    • Replies: @Ozymandias
    @guest

    "Twitter produces an endless supply of what Daniel Boorstin called “pseudo-events,” which are mother’s milk to the newsmedia."

    I call them conveniently timed squirrels. Thus most media outlets = squirrel chutes.

    @Stan Adams
    "And Lake Buena Vista is nearer to Kissimmee than it is to Orlando."

    Only in the geographical sense. Kissimmee is a Potemkin T-shirt village, go two blocks south of the strip and you are in cracker land. I met some great people there, but also a lot of disturbed and disturbing individuals.

    , @Jim Don Bob
    @guest

    Yeah, but the MSM gobbles these psuedo-events up just like polls. The stories write themselves. "This is what the people are thinking". I will bet you dollars to donuts not 1% of Americans tweet. But the MSM does with all their buds, so that's the reality, right?

    And then these morons are continually surprised by Trump's popularity. Pauline Kael, call your office.

    , @Lurker
    @guest

    The MSM churn out endless, over-simplified ideas, quotes, memes, lies and other crap. Twitter then regurgitates this in an even more debased, emotive, out-of-context and moronic fashion (if that's even possible!) See also Faceberg.

    Then the MSM reports what is said on Twitter, telling us it's "what the internet thinks" as if the MSM and Twitter were two islands remote from each other.

    The MSM does not go on to Disqus to see "what the internet thinks".

  124. @Grandpa Jack
    @Richard of Melbourne

    If he would just be quiet, instead of saying,"see I told you so"... The people see he is right, no need to flaunt it and appear to be uncaring. He really needs to get a PR advisor. if he already has one, he should fire him, and replace him with someone who doesn't keep letting things happen.

    Replies: @Phil, @The Millennial Falcon, @The most deplorable one, @guest, @Tex, @Forbes, @Bill

    He possibly still could’ve won, I don’t know. But Trump at the very least saved himself a ton of money by being bad at PR, which won him free advertising from all the people scolding him. If he’s going to beat Hillary, assuming she doesn’t beat herself, I think he’ll need a series of “gaffes” like this one.

  125. @Pat Casey
    Remnick is a literary philistine, and so are all but very few of his ilk. Blackguards all of them. What exactly does he intend to convey by quote marking the word "alien"? That Trump is really calling immigrants E.T.s? Or that literati sophisticates like him know when they're supposed to think about E.T? LOL what an idiot.

    http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/alien

    1 Belonging to a foreign country:
    an alien culture

    1.1 (Of a plant or animal species) introduced from another country and later naturalized:
    many food chains are based upon alien plants

    2 Unfamiliar and disturbing or distasteful:
    principles that are alien to them
    they found the world of further education a little alien
    More example sentences Synonyms

    3 Supposedly from another world; extraterrestrial:
    alien beings
    an alien spacecraft

    Replies: @Big Bill, @Olorin

    That sort of quotation deployment was invented by the literary deconstruction movement. It had multiple functions, all of them involving power-brokering (resources, mates, territory…).

    1) To allow Deconstructors to elbow-nudge each other and say, “I’m about to take a clear word or concept and entalmudize it into something only we True Believers understand, or claim to.”

    2) To empty of meaning clear words and concepts and create discussion, distraction, and conflict where none ever existed before.

    3) To vest power in those who mess with language and marginalize** those who use it etymologically precisely.

    **marginalize (v.) 1832, “to make marginal notes,” from marginal + -ize. The meaning “force into a position of powerlessness” attested by 1929.

    It is also an attack on Latinate constructions in English and Indo-European languages in general.

    Alien is closely etymologically related to alias, “(an)other,” and derives from the Proto-Indo-European root *al– (1), meaning beyond, other, or different. Similar words and concepts appear in Sanskrit, Avestan, Armenian, Greek, Gothic, Old English, and the Modern English (else).

    The capacity to discriminate between one thing and another is the most basic feature of any successful biological unit, never mind species or race. Turning that into a locus of political struggle and confusion is tres soixante-huit.

    • Replies: @Stan Adams
    @Olorin


    It is also an attack on Latinate constructions in English and Indo-European languages in general.
     
    English is a dumping-ground for words and grammatical constructions from all kinds of different languages. But its roots are Germanic. At heart, it is a Teutonic tongue.

    A Germanic English word for alien is outsider. An outsider is one who is not from here (wherever here is), who is not one of us (whoever we are), who is not one of our kind, who does not belong in our midst. He stands out, and apart.

    Does David Remnick - a late-fiftysomething Sailer-eschewing white guy from New Jersey with a secular Jewish background - think of me - an early-thirtysomething Sailer-saluting white guy from Florida with a Protestant, mostly Northern European background - as one of his kind, his tribe, as "one of us"? I doubt it.

    Do I think of him as one of my kind? Not really. But we're both Americans.

    Does he feel any true kinship with the teeming hordes who Trump "falsely"(1) claims are streaming into this country from the Middle East, South Asia, and Mexico? Does he truly believe that we'll be better off for having let them swarm across the border - that, in the end, they'll give back more than they take from us?

    Or does he see them as a club with which he can bash me and my kind over the head, a dagger with which he can slash our throats, a gun with which he can blow out our brains?(2)

    Does he believe that, by turning America into the Camp of the Saints, he is helping his tribe and hurting mine?

    Or is he an honest-to-God multiculti diversity-über-alles True Believer?

    You tell me.

    (1) I put "falsely" in quotation marks because I'm mocking Remnick's claim that Trump is not telling the truth.
    (2) The rule that one cannot end a sentence with a preposition is a Latinate convention that was grafted onto English by seventeenth-century "reformers."(3)
    (3) I put "reformers" in quotation marks because I am mocking the notion that their reforms were needed and/or worthwhile. If this makes me a literary deconstructionist, then so be it.

  126. @Lurker
    @SFG

    If such a woman exists, wouldn't she have appeared already? After all, they wanted to unseat him before the nomination.

    Replies: @guest

    Republicans wanted him out, but they’re not as good at it. The left, which is merciless, was tickled pink at the thought of running against an orange, toupeed, loudmouth reality tv star. They grow more and more frightened every day.

  127. @Lurker
    @Hugh

    I have to say, I'm quite a fan of Meghan's big guns.

    Replies: @Jefferson, @Jim Don Bob, @guest

    While it’s better than her having small ones, large breasts on fat women doesn’t mean much.

  128. @Jefferson
    The Orlando Official Tourism Association must be breathing a sigh of relief that the Muslim terrorist did not commit his act of terrorism at Univeral, Disney, or SeaWorld. Had Omar Mateen murdered 50 people in one of those amusement parks, it would have been a PR nightmare for Orlando's tourism industry.

    Replies: @Grandpa Jack, @Big Bill, @Stan Adams

    And the thing is that Disney’s Gay Day is always the first Saturday in June – it was last week. I’m surprised we haven’t heard more about that – the kook shoots up a LGBTQQIP2SAA bar only a week after one of the biggest LGBTQQIP2SAA shindigs in the world. (Certainly it’s the biggest LGBTQQIP2SAA event in Orlando.)

    Of course, Disney flacks can say truthfully, with a straight face, that Disney World is not in Orlando – it’s in Lake Buena Vista. And Lake Buena Vista is nearer to Kissimmee than it is to Orlando.

    • Replies: @Grandpa Jack
    @Stan Adams

    What a great idea. A bunch of pop tarts dressed flamboyantly putting on vulgar displays all day long in front of my 6 and my 4 yr old. Why, I'm going to reserve us spots right now. A brilliant way to increase Disneyland's patronage from mainstream American families who make up the lion's share of their business.

    , @Jefferson
    @Stan Adams

    "And the thing is that Disney’s Gay Day is always the first Saturday in June – it was last week. I’m surprised we haven’t heard more about that – the kook shoots up a LGBTQQIP2SAA bar only a week after one of the biggest LGBTQQIP2SAA shindigs in the world. (Certainly it’s the biggest LGBTQQIP2SAA event in Orlando.)

    Of course, Disney flacks can say truthfully, with a straight face, that Disney World is not in Orlando – it’s in Lake Buena Vista. And Lake Buena Vista is nearer to Kissimmee than it is to Orlando."

    I know Disney World is in Lake Buena Vista, I meant Orlando in the broader sense, as in the Greater Orlando metropolitan area.

  129. @Jefferson
    Why does Minnesota and Michigan have more Muslims than Florida? When the weather in Florida is a lot more similar to the weather in The Middle East, North Africa, and Somalia.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @TheJester, @Mike Street Station, @flyingtiger, @guest

    You mean the People’s Republic of Minnesota? A Worker’s…err, Multicultural Paradise.

  130. a world where it was cool and hip and trendy to dance to Rumi’s verses

    Is this the same Islamic theologian who wrote a poem about a maidservant’s sex with a not in-considerably endowed donkey ?

  131. @Jim Don Bob
    @Travis

    It is hard to believe that the victims stood around and did nothing while Omar shot 100+ of them. It takes a while to shoot that many people; I am sure he had to reload at some point during the three hours he was in there. Just WTF happened?

    Replies: @Travis

    true, it is difficult to understand, especially since Omar was able to phone the police during the rampage to express his allegiance to ISIS. Could be that many of the rooms at the club were difficult to flee from and so many hid in the bathrooms. I was in a gay club once, and the bathrooms were used for orgies, so many of them were probably caught in the act with their pants around their ankles, making it difficult to run.

  132. @carol
    @Anonymous Nephew

    This calls to mind Fathers and Sons. A noisy but harmless radical? commentator? spawns a heartless nihilist who takes it to the next level. An American citizen!

    Replies: @guest

    More like Dostoevsky’s The Possessed. Turgenev’s nihilist didn’t really do anything.

  133. @Sean
    @Lurker

    You'r overthinking it, the Orlando shootings were by a Muslim, it is a fair bet that the perpetrator disapproves of Trump and has not been under a rock in for the last year. He was no dummy--this is killing Trump. Not because of his reaction but because it creates a impression that the closer Trump gets to the White House the more Americans will be in danger. If I was willing to stop Trump by any means necessar, I would do it just that way. Nothing the Donald might have said about Orlando can fight the impact of massacres that he is the putative beneficiary of. So Omar Mateen wins even in death.

    No, this is in effect a strategy of tension in which the population considering a radical departure from the establishment get confronted with alarming portents and , and much more dreadful things which may come if they vote for the radical reformer. Security lies with more of the same, and Clinton will pray for more massacres if she is wise. It doesn't really matter who does the mass killing or why, Trump will become associated with terrifying slaughter, And don't think this is the last.

    Replies: @Ragno, @Eric Novak, @Tex, @Jefferson

    Ah yes…..your kid comes home with a bloody nose and you brace him with “What did you say to make them angry?

    Unless your kid is black, brown, a girl, queer or a humpbacked island cannibal, in which case you blink back tears as you speed-dial your attorney.

  134. @Anonymous
    @Pat Hannagan

    Wow. That's got to be the gayest, cheesiest video I've ever seen. The song is like a SJW anthem. I actually kind of like The Pet Shop Boys, but I've never heard this song before.

    Replies: @CJ

    That’s got to be the gayest, cheesiest video I’ve ever seen.

    Are you too young to have been around for the original?

    guest says:

    @Inquiring Mind
    @The most deplorable one

    Yeah, what is with the Hillary Clinton campaign emblem?

    I actually think the Obama Campaign "O" emblem is pretty good -- it is a circle, and it is inclusive, and in encompasses the flag stripes in the form of plow furrows showing the contour of the fertile land. It may be Socialist in a "This Land is Your Land, This Land is My Land" kind of way, but we all liked that song in spite of its underlying left-wing politics.

    What is with that arrow -- it is pointing rightward, so Hillary Clinton is signaling Fascist sympathies? It is this big fat arrow -- does that mean we will all "get the shaft"?

    OK, OK, in our culture where we read from left to right, the rightward arrow denotes Progress, and Ms. Clinton is a Progressive in the sense that she wants to change everything in the name of Progress? Just saying that the Obama O was immune to satire unless a person wanted to make a complete fool of themselves whereas the Hillary Arrow, let the games begin!

    Replies: @guest, @Abe

    This land is your land
    This land is my land
    Seems one or both of us
    Has a false deed to this land

  • @Anonymous
    He's right of course, so right that boasting about it seems too easy. The presidential thing to do here is to bow your head. The bodies are still warm, for goodness' sake!

    Replies: @reiner Tor, @Eric Novak

    Ignoring the implications of mass immigration during a presidential campaign about immigration is controlling the campaign. The opposition wants immigration debate crushed, pretending in many cases that Donald Trump’s rocket ride to the top and his opening bid for the presidency have nothing to do with immigration. The time to make declarations and further expose the bizarro fantasy world of the left and of Cuckservatives is when the bodies are still warm. The left hasn’t waited to comment on gun control.

  • @Buffalo Joe
    @Jack D

    Jack, Again you nailed it, most of the journalists on TV earn their pay by the way they "present", basically readers following a script.

    Replies: @dr kill

    Correct. In the rest of the world that’s just what they call them.

  • @Tiny Duck
    I don't think we can rule out the possibility that this was a staged event by Trump supporters (or even Trump himself). It feeds into his hateful narrative

    Replies: @Mark2

    Your troll is showing. Tone it down a notch.

  • @candid_observer
    I do wonder what's going to happen to the likes of George Takei.

    Sure, he takes up the standard progressive line and finds a way to blame Trump in the midst of this tragedy visited upon gays, of whom, of course, he is one.

    But I'm sure there are going to be many, many gays who have enough rational self preservation to want to fight the real enemy here, which is of course Islam.

    I can't imagine that these gays are going to be happy with the standard diversion tactics of the George Takei's of the world. George Takei isn't going to be doing a single thing that will actually make them safer, and will only undermine efforts that will.

    Replies: @candid_observer, @Jack Hanson

    Takei lives in ultra white Show Low, Arizona, surrounded by gun owning conservatives.

    Make of that what you will.

  • @Merema
    Everybody loves their narrative, but few want to acknowledge the facts. Everybody wants to say..see, see, I told you so…

    The facts are : a mentally ill second generation Muslim male, the intranet, ISIS mass murder ideology, America’s culture of mass shooting, homophobic third world family and easy access to guns.

    Omar is a nutcase, bipolar, unstable and hateful. From what I read, he hates gays, jews, black and women, another George Zimmerman-like loser who tried and failed to join the police force, raging against the world’s minorities even though he is one himself.

    The bigger issue that Omar brings to focus is of course immigration, not just Muslim immigration.

    Common sense strict pro America immigration policies can be implemented without alienating and angering the world with nazi like proclamations against “Muslims”.

    Compared to immigration from the rest of the world, Muslim immigration has always been limited-that’s why only 1% of America is Muslim-and should continue to be even more so-minimal Syrian refugees for example.

    But America should not be distracted by “Muslims” from the much larger issue of mass immigration from the third world-stay focused people!! Who cares if Obama does not says “Radical Islam”?!

    Mass immigration from Africa, Middle East and Latin America (except Chile and Argentina) is what’s killing American civilization. America can not survive with too many of the second generation from these regions because they mostly turn out to be underachievers or alienated and resentful with the help of liberals who teach them to hate the once majority Whites.

    Maybe Muslim terrorists might have done America a favor because it took them to wake sleepy Americans up to the dangers of unrestrained third world immigration, and to question the Narrative.

    It is not too late and the damages done to America can still be rolled back if only Americans would stay on message and unite on immigration-forget BLM, abortion, the 1%, the middle east, social security-these can all be fixed later.

    Replies: @Eric Novak, @Ttjy

    Nothing that I’ve read yet indicates that Omar displayed any symptoms of any disease other than being a violent, misogynistic follower of Islam. No indications of any extreme mood swings, mania, or black hole depression. Zero. Nothing. Bipolar disorder patients generally don’t behave like terrorists.

    • Agree: Das
    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Eric Novak

    He was in his 9th year of employment with a large company.

    , @LondonBob
    @Eric Novak

    He appears to have been gay himself, mentally unstable, had an odd father and used steroids. I doubt he was a particularly devout Muslim.

    Replies: @Das, @Eric Novak

  • @candid_observer
    @candid_observer

    Apropos of this, I just read this regarding Barney Frank's reaction, breaking ranks along the lines I suggested:


    Mr. Frank also said, commenting that this would irk his friends on the political left: “There is an Islamic element here. Yes, the overwhelming majority of Muslims don’t do this, but there is clearly, sadly, an element in the interpretation of Islam that has some currency, some interpretation in the Middle East that encourages killing people — and L.G.B.T. people are on that list. And I think it is fair to ask leaders of the Islamic community, religious and otherwise, to spend some time combating this.’’

    Third — and this, he said, “may be the most controversial” of his views: The attack “reinforces the case for significant surveillance by law enforcement of people who have given some indication of adoption of these angry Islamic hate views.” The gunman had been questioned by the F.B.I. “If they had continued to surveil him, that would have led to some A.C.L.U. criticism – and they would have been wrong. I wish they had surveiled him more, not less.’’
     

    http://www.nytimes.com/live/orlando-nightclub-shooting-live-updates/barney-frank/

    Replies: @Jim Don Bob, @Big Bill

    Barney Franks speaks the truth; too bad the interview was not conducted from a federal penitentiary where he and Chris Dodd (Mr. Irish Cottage) so richly belong.

  • @Sean
    @Lurker

    You'r overthinking it, the Orlando shootings were by a Muslim, it is a fair bet that the perpetrator disapproves of Trump and has not been under a rock in for the last year. He was no dummy--this is killing Trump. Not because of his reaction but because it creates a impression that the closer Trump gets to the White House the more Americans will be in danger. If I was willing to stop Trump by any means necessar, I would do it just that way. Nothing the Donald might have said about Orlando can fight the impact of massacres that he is the putative beneficiary of. So Omar Mateen wins even in death.

    No, this is in effect a strategy of tension in which the population considering a radical departure from the establishment get confronted with alarming portents and , and much more dreadful things which may come if they vote for the radical reformer. Security lies with more of the same, and Clinton will pray for more massacres if she is wise. It doesn't really matter who does the mass killing or why, Trump will become associated with terrifying slaughter, And don't think this is the last.

    Replies: @Ragno, @Eric Novak, @Tex, @Jefferson

    Nobody connects Trump with increasing terror. Even mongoloids know of the connection between Islam and violence.

  • @Tiny Duck
    I expect to see many terrorists attacks from the right wing after Trump loses the election.

    http://www.miamiherald.com/opinion/opn-columns-blogs/leonard-pitts-jr/article76825357.html

    A huge slice of Trump supporters have shown that they have no desire to "blend" or reach across the aisle. If they had their way, they would already have any non-white person in a concentration camp or deported.

    Things will be even worse in dealing with his supporters in the general public. They have turned a corner and I firmly believe there is no going back. They have been "empowered" by their brash nominee. The genie is out of the bottle and the bottle is filled with hate that cannot be corked again. Many of Trump's supporters have made it clear that they have no desire to be part of our society.

    Replies: @Eric Novak

    Hate is right. Hate works. Hate clarifies, cuts through and captures the essence of the evolutionary spirit. Your imaginary Hillary World fantasy won’t get past millions of poll respondents who will not offer politically-incorrect choices to polling companies. Just ask a Brit. You will be slack-jawed and drooling while watching the returns on Election Night, wondering how the impossible could happen and shaking your fist at the fates who would laugh in your face.

  • @Anonymous Nephew
    @Richard

    So she wanted to go to a Christian summer camp, and her father bashed her head on the floor because "they exterminated the Jews"?

    Are those attitudes commonly passed down in Jewish families, or is he a loopy outlier?

    Replies: @Olorin

    The kind of fierce ingroup breeding protection (population genetics strategy) Faludi’s father demonstrated would be called by the left and MSM a mental disorder if a white father did it. Muslims get a pass for that sort of thing (it’s just their culture), also Hispanics.

    So what’s the message? That violent men are really women? Talk about backlash!

    Seems the nutcake didn’t fall far from the table in Faludi’s case, as evidenced by this quote from the Belfast review:

    “I remember exactly what I said,” her father replies. “That they exterminated the Jews, and how could you do this?” Faludi concludes: “I didn’t correct her. Whatever the actual words, I understood this is what they meant to her.” She reaches over, squeezes her father’s hand, and says: “It’s okay.”

  • @Richard
    OT: Susan Faludi, author of the 1991 feminist polemic "Backlash," has a new book out about her father, who became a transgender woman at the age of 76.

    http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/life/books/susan-faludi-the-feminist-whose-violent-dad-told-her-hed-never-been-that-macho-and-was-becoming-a-woman-34790284.html

    http://www.nytimes.com/2016/06/13/books/review-father-was-a-vicious-bully-then-he-became-a-woman.html?_r=0

    The Belfast Telegraph reviewer is a lot more candid about the issues Faludi raises than the NY Times reviewer.

    Replies: @Anonymous Nephew, @Anonymous, @Olorin

    If you’re drinking coffee that you want to spew, search on the headline:

    AT HOME WITH: Susan Faludi and Russ Rymer; Sympathy for Men, Empathy With One

    NYT, October 21, 1999.

  • Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    When will people wake up, hypothetically Trump gets elected, builds his wall, bans and deports all Muslims what next. Make anyone who is a part of the LGBT community criminals, revoke the rights of all minorities and women stay true to his word of forcing our allies to pay for protection. This causes a domino effect in which Europe is at war within itself and with Russia. Japan and the rest of Asia is dominated by china. Which also kills jobs in America because of all the world turmoil. Wake up people Lucifer is Trump his goal: Destroy the world.

    • Replies: @guest
    @Anonymous

    Huh?

    , @Big Bill
    @Anonymous

    Kinda sounds like a mixture of Saudi policy and Israeli policy. They are both esteemed allies. Why can't we imitate them?

    , @The most deplorable one
    @Anonymous

    Stay rational, my friend.

    , @Jack D
    @Anonymous

    I gather from your hysteria that you must understand on some visceral level that the Orlando shootings have put Trump several steps closer to the White House. But you are not going to change the mind of anyone who is not already a true believer by this kind of demented ranting.

  • @Travis
    @Ozymandias

    the perp could have killed more people using gasoline to strategically torch the nightclub. The politicians could not blame it on guns , but more people would have died.

    Replies: @Jim Don Bob, @Ozymandias

    By “improve” I did not mean increased body count, I meant more irony pie in the Left’s face.

    • Replies: @Travis
    @Ozymandias

    understood, but using gasoline would have forced a different narrative from the leftists, they could not blame it on guns and divert the publics attention clamoring to ban certain types of firearms.

  • @Grandpa Jack
    @Jefferson

    He was offended by gays, not 5 yr olds

    Replies: @Stan Adams, @Anonymous, @Big Bill

  • @Steve Sailer
    @Hugh

    Ana Navarro is the girlfriend of the guy who owns the Biltmore Hotel where Jeb plays golf ever Saturday. That's her qualifications.

    Replies: @Louie, @dc.sunsets

    It’s now difficult to grasp just how irrelevant the news networks are.

    Seriously, who watches those clowns? Is there a US-Treasury tit specifically to feed the Ministry of Truth’s Megaphone, because I don’t see how they’re surviving, otherwise.

  • What repels me in Trump’s tweet (apart from his addiction to Twitter, along with his playmate Elizabeth Warren) is his typical doublespeak. He doesn’t want congratulations – then why does he mention that he received them? Such a deep and obvious dishonesty in this sleezy character, like Cruz, although with a different presentation; and like Clinton.

    I can understand in logical terms why some of you support him: you think it’s the white American’s last stand. But how do you stomach the blowhard?

    • Replies: @V Vega
    @Stephen R. Diamond

    The same way, though it takes far more will, we stomach you. By rationally assessing the supposed threat, and coming to a logical conclusion.

    Now let us ask you how you make your way through life reacting from stimuli as if you are a neurotic, petulant 14 year old schoolgirl? Do you just block out the people pointing and laughing at you, from your mind? Doesn't behaving like a 14 year old schoolgirl have a debilitating effect on your identity, as a grown man, long term? Or are you just paving the way for when you change your name to "Stephanie"?

    These are questions that, far more than your posts alone, currently interest us.

    Replies: @Stephen R. Diamond

    , @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
    @Stephen R. Diamond

    So, you base serious considerations on whom to vote for by way of what they tweet. And this is the mark of a mature adult.

    See, the reason many can "stomach" as you so put it is that many are far past the faux niceties of politics. They'd rather take their candidates with full honesty, even the candidates' warts are preferable to the other candidates' hypocrisy. Mitt Romney had all the gracious manners of play doh--he could be shaped and molded into whichever form that you preferred but at the end of the day, was unable to stand on his own as a free thinking independent minded candidate. And that's what's at stake this election cycle.

    Those that support Trump can more than handle a bit of acid indigestion; what they can no longer stomach is hypocrisy on the issues while doling out affected manners in the process.

    , @Jenner Ickham Errican
    @Stephen R. Diamond

    Many of Trump’s tweets, sayings, etc. are perfectly honed to induce hand-flapping hysteria in his OMG I CAN’T EVEN virtue-signaling detractors.

    One of the best is his infamous Cinco de Mayo “taco bowl” tweet. Sarcastic, self promoting text: Check. Shit eating grin: Check. Intriguing enough that NYDN’s mellifluously named Gersh Kuntzman had to check it out. (Verdict: Yummy, but overpriced.)

    Replies: @Kylie

    , @Forbes
    @Stephen R. Diamond

    If you pay attention to Twitter (I don't), it's like comments here that create a back-and-forth conversation. One comment, taken out of the middle of a running conversation doesn't stand on its own--it is out of context, but is part of a larger conversation.

    The lapdog media and talking head pundits extract elements of the conversation in an attempt to find the Holy Grail "gotcha."

    But then you knew that.

    The more relevant question is: How do you stomach that dishonesty of the lapdog media? As it leads you around by your nose telling you what to think? Every minute of the day?

  • Trump withdraws press access from WaPo.

    https://www.facebook.com/DonaldTrump/posts/10157164117925725

    “Based on the incredibly inaccurate coverage and reporting of the record setting Trump campaign, we are hereby revoking the press credentials of the phony and dishonest Washington Post.”

    • Replies: @Jim Don Bob
    @Anonymous Nephew

    Brilliant move. NYT next. Then CNN. Rinse. Repeat.

  • The evening news on Swedish state television last night opened with the Orlando attack, but it was minutes into the story before the reporter reluctantly made one mention of the term “I.S.” The contextualizing was all about guns, mass shootings, and hostility toward homosexuals.

    Meanwhile, the governor of Minnesota has ordered that a freeway bridge (the replacement bridge for the one that collapsed into the Mississippi River a few years ago) be illuminated in rainbow colors.

    • Replies: @Jim Don Bob
    @Grumpy

    That'll teach the Muzzies.

    Good Mark Steyn quote here: https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/236089/

  • Tex says:
    @Grandpa Jack
    @Richard of Melbourne

    If he would just be quiet, instead of saying,"see I told you so"... The people see he is right, no need to flaunt it and appear to be uncaring. He really needs to get a PR advisor. if he already has one, he should fire him, and replace him with someone who doesn't keep letting things happen.

    Replies: @Phil, @The Millennial Falcon, @The most deplorable one, @guest, @Tex, @Forbes, @Bill

    If he would just be quiet, instead of saying,”see I told you so”… The people see he is right, no need to flaunt it and appear to be uncaring. He really needs to get a PR advisor. if he already has one, he should fire him, and replace him with someone who doesn’t keep letting things happen.

    If Trump kept quiet and spoke only when spoken to, no one would vote for him. I despise mealy-mouthed politicians and so do lots of voters.

  • @Eric Novak
    @Merema

    Nothing that I've read yet indicates that Omar displayed any symptoms of any disease other than being a violent, misogynistic follower of Islam. No indications of any extreme mood swings, mania, or black hole depression. Zero. Nothing. Bipolar disorder patients generally don't behave like terrorists.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @LondonBob

    He was in his 9th year of employment with a large company.

  • @Tiny Duck
    I think there's a pretty strong case to have a news blackout on perpetrators and motivations. You'd never manage it on the atrocities themselves, but it'd be a huge step forward if the news simply reported that this had happened, and that the shooter had been killed and his identity was known, but didn't report what that was. He has his notoriety, he has his homophobic views aired, IS have their free PR for doing nothing. Once again, we've handed them most of what they want.

    Replies: @This Is Our Home, @Mr. Anon, @Tex

    You forgot to add, “All your grand-children will be mulattoes. Mwa-ha-ha-ha!”

  • I have a very strong feeling that many, many gays, who were quite vocal against Trump, are going to gradually, but surely withdraw from political discussions with their friends and foes, and quietly vote for Trump this November.

    When it comes to existential endgames, nihilists are predictable.

  • @Anonymous
    When will people wake up, hypothetically Trump gets elected, builds his wall, bans and deports all Muslims what next. Make anyone who is a part of the LGBT community criminals, revoke the rights of all minorities and women stay true to his word of forcing our allies to pay for protection. This causes a domino effect in which Europe is at war within itself and with Russia. Japan and the rest of Asia is dominated by china. Which also kills jobs in America because of all the world turmoil. Wake up people Lucifer is Trump his goal: Destroy the world.

    Replies: @guest, @Big Bill, @The most deplorable one, @Jack D

    Huh?

  • @Stephen R. Diamond
    What repels me in Trump's tweet (apart from his addiction to Twitter, along with his playmate Elizabeth Warren) is his typical doublespeak. He doesn't want congratulations - then why does he mention that he received them? Such a deep and obvious dishonesty in this sleezy character, like Cruz, although with a different presentation; and like Clinton.

    I can understand in logical terms why some of you support him: you think it's the white American's last stand. But how do you stomach the blowhard?

    Replies: @V Vega, @Yojimbo/Zatoichi, @Jenner Ickham Errican, @Forbes

    The same way, though it takes far more will, we stomach you. By rationally assessing the supposed threat, and coming to a logical conclusion.

    Now let us ask you how you make your way through life reacting from stimuli as if you are a neurotic, petulant 14 year old schoolgirl? Do you just block out the people pointing and laughing at you, from your mind? Doesn’t behaving like a 14 year old schoolgirl have a debilitating effect on your identity, as a grown man, long term? Or are you just paving the way for when you change your name to “Stephanie”?

    These are questions that, far more than your posts alone, currently interest us.

    • Replies: @Stephen R. Diamond
    @V Vega

    You're saying that I'm immature and effeminate because my sense of revulsion at Trump overrules my reason. Some liberals apply this same idea - they speak of "holding your nose" and voting Clinton.

    But you're distorting my meaning. I indicated that I understood why you would vote for him. I probably would too, were I deluded enough to accept your assumptions. My question was: how do you stomach him? Which is to say, in the liberal argot, how do you vote for him without holding your nose. Instead taking in a deep breath of the stench.

    Replies: @Yojimbo/Zatoichi, @BenKenobi, @Anon, @e

  • @candid_observer
    @candid_observer

    Apropos of this, I just read this regarding Barney Frank's reaction, breaking ranks along the lines I suggested:


    Mr. Frank also said, commenting that this would irk his friends on the political left: “There is an Islamic element here. Yes, the overwhelming majority of Muslims don’t do this, but there is clearly, sadly, an element in the interpretation of Islam that has some currency, some interpretation in the Middle East that encourages killing people — and L.G.B.T. people are on that list. And I think it is fair to ask leaders of the Islamic community, religious and otherwise, to spend some time combating this.’’

    Third — and this, he said, “may be the most controversial” of his views: The attack “reinforces the case for significant surveillance by law enforcement of people who have given some indication of adoption of these angry Islamic hate views.” The gunman had been questioned by the F.B.I. “If they had continued to surveil him, that would have led to some A.C.L.U. criticism – and they would have been wrong. I wish they had surveiled him more, not less.’’
     

    http://www.nytimes.com/live/orlando-nightclub-shooting-live-updates/barney-frank/

    Replies: @Jim Don Bob, @Big Bill

    Barney Frank after Kristallnacht:

    Mr. Frank also said, commenting that this would irk his friends on the political left: “There is a Nazi element here. Yes, the overwhelming majority of Nazis don’t do this, but there is clearly, sadly, an element in the interpretation of Nazism that has some currency, some interpretation in Germany that encourages killing people — and Jewish. people are on that list. And I think it is fair to ask leaders of the Nazi community, religious and otherwise, to spend some time combating this.’’

    Ahh. If only Jews had taken such calm, nuanced, measured, thoughtful tones in 1938. But instead they declared war on the Nazis and caused them to feel threatened and get angry.

    • Replies: @Forbes
    @Big Bill

    Well done. Obviously Barney Frank doesn't want to needlessly upset his friends on the Left.

  • @Anonymous
    When will people wake up, hypothetically Trump gets elected, builds his wall, bans and deports all Muslims what next. Make anyone who is a part of the LGBT community criminals, revoke the rights of all minorities and women stay true to his word of forcing our allies to pay for protection. This causes a domino effect in which Europe is at war within itself and with Russia. Japan and the rest of Asia is dominated by china. Which also kills jobs in America because of all the world turmoil. Wake up people Lucifer is Trump his goal: Destroy the world.

    Replies: @guest, @Big Bill, @The most deplorable one, @Jack D

    Kinda sounds like a mixture of Saudi policy and Israeli policy. They are both esteemed allies. Why can’t we imitate them?

  • @Dwright
    If we harnessed the brain power of John Legend, George Takei, McCain, and Navarro, we could toast a piece of toast… Lightly

    Seriously?

    The only thing Takei ever was part of was Star Trek. Now his living is made off of his gayness and family's internment in WW2. Unbeliveable who we ge as pundits these days.

    (Shatner said he hardly remembered the guy when working on the series, says a lot huh?)

    Replies: @Jim Don Bob, @Je Suis Charlie Martel

    Right. I wanna know what Lt. Uhuru thinks.

  • @Abe
    @whorefinder


    The left is smelling a bit of blood on Trump after his near-apology on the La Raza judge. They’re trying to force him to back down here—somehow. Hence the tail-wagging-the-dog nonsense of a “backlash”—the press is making up a backlash in order to create one.

    Never apologize. It’s a sign of weakness
     

    Dave Pinsen posted a scan of a Jacob Weisberg editorial, in which Weisberg makes the worst sales pitch ever- "Libertarians: your ideas are stupid, and sometimes downright evil, and because most of you are such basement-dwelling weirdos I can't say I even have enough respect to fear you like I would neo-Nazis. But if you complete this suicide mission of drawing just enough support away from Trump to torpedo his candidacy, you may get a few crumbs of posthumous approval from me. Maybe."

    Romney- who I still maintain is probably the most outstanding human being to run for the Presidency in the last 50 years- has this exact white knight, self-destruct sequence that Weisberg is trying to activate in Libertarians. I mean, sure, fawning footnotes from Doris Kearns Goodwin III and Arthur Muhammad Schlesinger IV about how he valiantly convinced Republicans to go down to flaming defeat in 2016 in order to save the soul of the GOP are nice, but I think he seriously believes nothing less than honor demands he take out Trump, and he'd happily do so even if nobody was around to see. And yet Romney- the image of the strong, lantern-jawed 50's patriarch- crumbles when dissed by anyone outside his party. He's like the good-dad who stands up to the loud, drunk uncle ruining Thanksgiving by being rude to his daughter's black boyfriend (Trump), and then stands silently by as said boyfriend hectors them about what privileged, racist pigs they are before confiscating the family silverware to pawn later in support of BLM activism.

    What I'm saying is that Orlando makes acceptance-craving Republicans like Romney and Schwarzenegger, vaporing over Trump's Mexican judge "racism", look pathetic and weak because everyone knows they would have done absolutely nothing to prevent this.

    While playing this classy and low-key, in a sort of run-out-the-clock strategy, may be the wise thing to do, low-key is not what got him here, so Trump should take the opportunity to double-down and own this. Reach out to gays and say he's the only one who'd keep them safe. Yeah, I'm sure a couple big-name lefty gays would try and slap away the hand offered him ("not in my name", yadda yadda) and that's when Trump should just double down. "Yeah, I admit it. I'm sort of a bully. But I'm the only one who can protect you whether you personally like me or not. I'm the bully you need." #BullyYouNeed

    Replies: @Dave Pinsen

    Here’s the tweet with that Jacob Weisberg column. I was expecting a letter writer to call him on his ahistorical nonsense about Lincoln this weekend, but no dice.

  • Tex says:
    @Sean
    @Lurker

    You'r overthinking it, the Orlando shootings were by a Muslim, it is a fair bet that the perpetrator disapproves of Trump and has not been under a rock in for the last year. He was no dummy--this is killing Trump. Not because of his reaction but because it creates a impression that the closer Trump gets to the White House the more Americans will be in danger. If I was willing to stop Trump by any means necessar, I would do it just that way. Nothing the Donald might have said about Orlando can fight the impact of massacres that he is the putative beneficiary of. So Omar Mateen wins even in death.

    No, this is in effect a strategy of tension in which the population considering a radical departure from the establishment get confronted with alarming portents and , and much more dreadful things which may come if they vote for the radical reformer. Security lies with more of the same, and Clinton will pray for more massacres if she is wise. It doesn't really matter who does the mass killing or why, Trump will become associated with terrifying slaughter, And don't think this is the last.

    Replies: @Ragno, @Eric Novak, @Tex, @Jefferson

    I don’t doubt that some people will take the line you suggest. However, I doubt that a significant proportion are uncommitted. In other words, that’s a nice talking point if you are already #NeverTrump.

    I think a more common reaction is to want to resist. People look at San Jose or Orlando or whatever happened last, sympathize with the victims, and look to punish the perpetrator& their sympathizers by rallying to the most vocal opponent, Trump.

    I am horrified and disgusted by what happened, but not at all fearful. I am not deterred in the least from voting for Trump. I suspect a great many others in the neutral camp have a similar reaction and move closer to Trump.

  • Fusion continues to Fuse:

  • @V Vega
    @Stephen R. Diamond

    The same way, though it takes far more will, we stomach you. By rationally assessing the supposed threat, and coming to a logical conclusion.

    Now let us ask you how you make your way through life reacting from stimuli as if you are a neurotic, petulant 14 year old schoolgirl? Do you just block out the people pointing and laughing at you, from your mind? Doesn't behaving like a 14 year old schoolgirl have a debilitating effect on your identity, as a grown man, long term? Or are you just paving the way for when you change your name to "Stephanie"?

    These are questions that, far more than your posts alone, currently interest us.

    Replies: @Stephen R. Diamond

    You’re saying that I’m immature and effeminate because my sense of revulsion at Trump overrules my reason. Some liberals apply this same idea – they speak of “holding your nose” and voting Clinton.

    But you’re distorting my meaning. I indicated that I understood why you would vote for him. I probably would too, were I deluded enough to accept your assumptions. My question was: how do you stomach him? Which is to say, in the liberal argot, how do you vote for him without holding your nose. Instead taking in a deep breath of the stench.

    • Replies: @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
    @Stephen R. Diamond

    Because many have no reason to hold their noses. What you apparently are overlooking (or simply dismissing out of hand) is that many truly want to vote for Trump because they believe in the policy stances he's advocating. I know that this could appear to be a total shock to you, but it is a distinct and legitimate possibility.

    FACT: Hillary Clinton is no friend to the working classes of America and never has been.

    Let's see:

    YOU wrote: "How do you vote for him without holding your nose"

    And the response is: How does one NOT vote for him when the stakes are as high as they are in this election cycle? Unless of course, you're simply part of the one percent, open borders, cheap labor, Social Justice Warrior, communist/far leftist Socialistic Sanders, Black Lives Matter supporter who wants to continue Obama's work of dismantling the historical institutions of the United States (including freedom of religion, freedom of assembly, freedom to own guns, etc).

    And in your case, this is a distinct possibility.

    , @BenKenobi
    @Stephen R. Diamond

    You've been surrounded by rot for so long you no longer notice the stench.

    Trump is actually fresh air, comrade.

    , @Anon
    @Stephen R. Diamond

    Mature people understand they're not voting for a God-Emperor or a Daddy Substitute. They realize they're voting for a human being with flaws whose opinions more closely represent their own than that of other people in the political field.

    People who are neurotic, low-IQ, and/or inept at the tasks of daily living (i.e., Democrats) want a perfect God-Emperor or a Daddy who is expected to solve all the voters' problems by giving them tons of free stuff and coddling so they don't have to take care of themselves by growing up, getting a job, and looking after themselves.

    Democrats have serious emotional hangups about their leaders and defend them with psychiatric level-denial to a pitch that is just plain nuts. Witness Hillary's email scandal and the Dems' wild refusal to admit that her idiotic and reckless behavior makes her unfit for high office. Dems also idealize their leaders to a crazy degree if they can get away with it, such as in the virtual worship of Obama or JFK, neither of which is grown-up behavior.

    , @e
    @Stephen R. Diamond

    Which is to say, in the liberal argot, how do you vote for him without holding your nose.

    The same way I ate liver when I was anemic as a kid. I did it because it was good for me. I literally held my nose as I chewed the stuff and swallowed. BTW, it [both the liver and the holding of the nose] worked.

    Replies: @Ragno

  • @Anonymous Nephew
    Trump withdraws press access from WaPo.

    https://www.facebook.com/DonaldTrump/posts/10157164117925725


    "Based on the incredibly inaccurate coverage and reporting of the record setting Trump campaign, we are hereby revoking the press credentials of the phony and dishonest Washington Post."
     

    Replies: @Jim Don Bob

    Brilliant move. NYT next. Then CNN. Rinse. Repeat.

  • @Grumpy
    The evening news on Swedish state television last night opened with the Orlando attack, but it was minutes into the story before the reporter reluctantly made one mention of the term "I.S." The contextualizing was all about guns, mass shootings, and hostility toward homosexuals.

    Meanwhile, the governor of Minnesota has ordered that a freeway bridge (the replacement bridge for the one that collapsed into the Mississippi River a few years ago) be illuminated in rainbow colors.

    Replies: @Jim Don Bob

    That’ll teach the Muzzies.

    Good Mark Steyn quote here: https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/236089/

  • @Stephen R. Diamond
    @V Vega

    You're saying that I'm immature and effeminate because my sense of revulsion at Trump overrules my reason. Some liberals apply this same idea - they speak of "holding your nose" and voting Clinton.

    But you're distorting my meaning. I indicated that I understood why you would vote for him. I probably would too, were I deluded enough to accept your assumptions. My question was: how do you stomach him? Which is to say, in the liberal argot, how do you vote for him without holding your nose. Instead taking in a deep breath of the stench.

    Replies: @Yojimbo/Zatoichi, @BenKenobi, @Anon, @e

    Because many have no reason to hold their noses. What you apparently are overlooking (or simply dismissing out of hand) is that many truly want to vote for Trump because they believe in the policy stances he’s advocating. I know that this could appear to be a total shock to you, but it is a distinct and legitimate possibility.

    FACT: Hillary Clinton is no friend to the working classes of America and never has been.

    Let’s see:

    YOU wrote: “How do you vote for him without holding your nose”

    And the response is: How does one NOT vote for him when the stakes are as high as they are in this election cycle? Unless of course, you’re simply part of the one percent, open borders, cheap labor, Social Justice Warrior, communist/far leftist Socialistic Sanders, Black Lives Matter supporter who wants to continue Obama’s work of dismantling the historical institutions of the United States (including freedom of religion, freedom of assembly, freedom to own guns, etc).

    And in your case, this is a distinct possibility.

  • @Hodag
    @Anonymous

    There have been generations of Middle Eastern people in Detroit for whatever reason. I think it was they are willing to serve blacks and charge high prices.

    Minnesota is due to Lutheran Social Services, a major contractor in refugee resettlement. They make a ton of money doing it. Also in Aurora, IL.




    Philadelphia Cricket last weekend, Oakmont this week. Very excited.

    Replies: @Justpassingby

    There have been generations of Middle Eastern people in Detroit for whatever reason.

    Almost all of whom were Syrian and Lebanese Christians, who came when there were still good, high paying jobs with the auto companies.

  • @Stephen R. Diamond
    What repels me in Trump's tweet (apart from his addiction to Twitter, along with his playmate Elizabeth Warren) is his typical doublespeak. He doesn't want congratulations - then why does he mention that he received them? Such a deep and obvious dishonesty in this sleezy character, like Cruz, although with a different presentation; and like Clinton.

    I can understand in logical terms why some of you support him: you think it's the white American's last stand. But how do you stomach the blowhard?

    Replies: @V Vega, @Yojimbo/Zatoichi, @Jenner Ickham Errican, @Forbes

    So, you base serious considerations on whom to vote for by way of what they tweet. And this is the mark of a mature adult.

    See, the reason many can “stomach” as you so put it is that many are far past the faux niceties of politics. They’d rather take their candidates with full honesty, even the candidates’ warts are preferable to the other candidates’ hypocrisy. Mitt Romney had all the gracious manners of play doh–he could be shaped and molded into whichever form that you preferred but at the end of the day, was unable to stand on his own as a free thinking independent minded candidate. And that’s what’s at stake this election cycle.

    Those that support Trump can more than handle a bit of acid indigestion; what they can no longer stomach is hypocrisy on the issues while doling out affected manners in the process.

  • @NeonBets
    Bring on the Hashtags. I expect will start to see one hit on Monday evening, or Tuesday evening at the latest.

    #IStandWithGaysAndMuslims
    #ItsNotAboutIslam
    #IWillPartyWithIslam

    Replies: @Jefferson, @Hibernian

    “Bring on the Hashtags. I expect will start to see one hit on Monday evening, or Tuesday evening at the latest.

    #IStandWithGaysAndMuslims
    #ItsNotAboutIslam
    #IWillPartyWithIslam”

    I will add more.

    #IslamIsGayFriendly
    #MuslimsAndGaysUnite
    #IAmQueerAndILoveThatIslamIsHere
    #MuslimsAndGaysAreAllies
    #ChristianityIsNoBetter
    #GaysStandWithTheProphetMuhammad
    #GaysAreTheBedrockOfIslam
    #WeAreTheMuslimLiberace

    • Replies: @The most deplorable one
    @Jefferson

    How about:

    #GaysBleedForTheProphetMuhammad

  • Trump will beat Hillary in November but not mainly because of the terrorism issue. If anyone here has any interest in understanding what is Hillary’s biggest problem, read “Clinton Cash” by Peter Schweizer: https://www.amazon.com/Clinton-Cash-Foreign-Governments-Businesses/dp/0062369288

    If you really want to understand what swine that bitch and her husband are, look no further. But even more, if you really want to understand what swine the MSM are for not disclosing these facts to a gullible public, again look no further. This book will blow your mind. The book is so well researched that the New York Times was forced to admit some of these facts (in the back pages, of course, and buried far away from prying eyes): http://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/24/us/cash-flowed-to-clinton-foundation-as-russians-pressed-for-control-of-uranium-company.html?_r=0

    Trump will build his case for the presidency around this. The left and right may disagree on many things in America but on corruption, their views don’t differ much (among real voters and real people that is – not the scum sitting in Washington).

  • @Stephen R. Diamond
    @V Vega

    You're saying that I'm immature and effeminate because my sense of revulsion at Trump overrules my reason. Some liberals apply this same idea - they speak of "holding your nose" and voting Clinton.

    But you're distorting my meaning. I indicated that I understood why you would vote for him. I probably would too, were I deluded enough to accept your assumptions. My question was: how do you stomach him? Which is to say, in the liberal argot, how do you vote for him without holding your nose. Instead taking in a deep breath of the stench.

    Replies: @Yojimbo/Zatoichi, @BenKenobi, @Anon, @e

    You’ve been surrounded by rot for so long you no longer notice the stench.

    Trump is actually fresh air, comrade.

  • @Olorin
    @Pat Casey

    That sort of quotation deployment was invented by the literary deconstruction movement. It had multiple functions, all of them involving power-brokering (resources, mates, territory...).

    1) To allow Deconstructors to elbow-nudge each other and say, "I'm about to take a clear word or concept and entalmudize it into something only we True Believers understand, or claim to."

    2) To empty of meaning clear words and concepts and create discussion, distraction, and conflict where none ever existed before.

    3) To vest power in those who mess with language and marginalize** those who use it etymologically precisely.

    **marginalize (v.) 1832, "to make marginal notes," from marginal + -ize. The meaning "force into a position of powerlessness" attested by 1929.

    It is also an attack on Latinate constructions in English and Indo-European languages in general.

    Alien is closely etymologically related to alias, "(an)other," and derives from the Proto-Indo-European root *al- (1), meaning beyond, other, or different. Similar words and concepts appear in Sanskrit, Avestan, Armenian, Greek, Gothic, Old English, and the Modern English (else).

    The capacity to discriminate between one thing and another is the most basic feature of any successful biological unit, never mind species or race. Turning that into a locus of political struggle and confusion is tres soixante-huit.

    Replies: @Stan Adams

    It is also an attack on Latinate constructions in English and Indo-European languages in general.

    English is a dumping-ground for words and grammatical constructions from all kinds of different languages. But its roots are Germanic. At heart, it is a Teutonic tongue.

    A Germanic English word for alien is outsider. An outsider is one who is not from here (wherever here is), who is not one of us (whoever we are), who is not one of our kind, who does not belong in our midst. He stands out, and apart.

    Does David Remnick – a late-fiftysomething Sailer-eschewing white guy from New Jersey with a secular Jewish background – think of me – an early-thirtysomething Sailer-saluting white guy from Florida with a Protestant, mostly Northern European background – as one of his kind, his tribe, as “one of us”? I doubt it.

    Do I think of him as one of my kind? Not really. But we’re both Americans.

    Does he feel any true kinship with the teeming hordes who Trump “falsely”(1) claims are streaming into this country from the Middle East, South Asia, and Mexico? Does he truly believe that we’ll be better off for having let them swarm across the border – that, in the end, they’ll give back more than they take from us?

    Or does he see them as a club with which he can bash me and my kind over the head, a dagger with which he can slash our throats, a gun with which he can blow out our brains?(2)

    Does he believe that, by turning America into the Camp of the Saints, he is helping his tribe and hurting mine?

    Or is he an honest-to-God multiculti diversity-über-alles True Believer?

    You tell me.

    (1) I put “falsely” in quotation marks because I’m mocking Remnick’s claim that Trump is not telling the truth.
    (2) The rule that one cannot end a sentence with a preposition is a Latinate convention that was grafted onto English by seventeenth-century “reformers.”(3)
    (3) I put “reformers” in quotation marks because I am mocking the notion that their reforms were needed and/or worthwhile. If this makes me a literary deconstructionist, then so be it.

  • Abe says: • Website
    @Percy Gryce
    @Abe


    To paraphrase Caldwell’s excellent bon mot, we move slowly and imperceptibly from a world where it was cool and hip and trendy to dance to Rumi’s verses in a cheesy world music pastiche compilation album (and I admit it, back in the day I was one of those spastic Dave Byrne “dancing” world music geeks) to one where it is problematic to perform careful exegesis on his poems in a grueling Orientalism seminar that is only 2, instead of 3, days long.
     
    That's a helluva a paraphrase--and personal confession, to boot.

    Let me guess: in your CD rack you had Deep Forest, Dead Can Dance, and some Benedictine chant or Tuvan throat singing.

    Speaking of Deep Forest, here they are culturally appropriating the music of Steve's beloved pygmies:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jlof_2lqQH8

    Replies: @Abe

    Let me guess: in your CD rack you had Deep Forest, Dead Can Dance, and some Benedictine chant or Tuvan throat singing.

    (I recently noticed many of the tracks in my iTunes library sounded kinnda crappy, and realized most of the music there was encoded in the old 128K format from 10 years ago instead of the more recent 256. So having just recently pulled out most of my old CD collection to re-rip it I can say)- HA HA, you are exactly right! In addition to the 5-6 discs worth of Deep Forest, Dead Can Dance, and Spanish monk chant, though, is Enya (the Journey or Phil Collins of world beat, I know, but I still like her), the excellent MUSIC OF HILDEGARD VON BINGEN: VISION I- and where it all started for me- Peter Gabriel’s soundtrack to THE LAST TEMPTATION OF CHRIST!

    • Agree: Percy Gryce
  • @Stephen R. Diamond
    What repels me in Trump's tweet (apart from his addiction to Twitter, along with his playmate Elizabeth Warren) is his typical doublespeak. He doesn't want congratulations - then why does he mention that he received them? Such a deep and obvious dishonesty in this sleezy character, like Cruz, although with a different presentation; and like Clinton.

    I can understand in logical terms why some of you support him: you think it's the white American's last stand. But how do you stomach the blowhard?

    Replies: @V Vega, @Yojimbo/Zatoichi, @Jenner Ickham Errican, @Forbes

    Many of Trump’s tweets, sayings, etc. are perfectly honed to induce hand-flapping hysteria in his OMG I CAN’T EVEN virtue-signaling detractors.

    One of the best is his infamous Cinco de Mayo “taco bowl” tweet. Sarcastic, self promoting text: Check. Shit eating grin: Check. Intriguing enough that NYDN’s mellifluously named Gersh Kuntzman had to check it out. (Verdict: Yummy, but overpriced.)

    • Replies: @Kylie
    @Jenner Ickham Errican

    Trump's Cinco de Mayo Taco Bowl tweet was great.

    But for some reason the recent pic of Trump eating McDonald's on his private jet really got me. I loved the whole "What? Me worry?" insouciance of it. It went perfectly with the orange tan and the obvious combover.

    Trump really enjoys having FU money and I really enjoy watching him enjoy it. But what I really like is my suspicion that he'd be pretty much the same without it.

    Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican

  • @Inquiring Mind
    @The most deplorable one

    Yeah, what is with the Hillary Clinton campaign emblem?

    I actually think the Obama Campaign "O" emblem is pretty good -- it is a circle, and it is inclusive, and in encompasses the flag stripes in the form of plow furrows showing the contour of the fertile land. It may be Socialist in a "This Land is Your Land, This Land is My Land" kind of way, but we all liked that song in spite of its underlying left-wing politics.

    What is with that arrow -- it is pointing rightward, so Hillary Clinton is signaling Fascist sympathies? It is this big fat arrow -- does that mean we will all "get the shaft"?

    OK, OK, in our culture where we read from left to right, the rightward arrow denotes Progress, and Ms. Clinton is a Progressive in the sense that she wants to change everything in the name of Progress? Just saying that the Obama O was immune to satire unless a person wanted to make a complete fool of themselves whereas the Hillary Arrow, let the games begin!

    Replies: @guest, @Abe

    Yeah, what is with the Hillary Clinton campaign emblem?

    It looks like a syringe about to poke into you, which brings up unwelcome associations with Nurse Ratched.

  • @guest
    Twitter produces an endless supply of what Daniel Boorstin called "pseudo-events," which are mother's milk to the newsmedia. The thing Trump is being criticized for didn't really happen. At most, he failed to control Public Relations like a good political robot. If you want politicians and everyone else to sound like robots, by all means, continue this line of "news" reporting.

    Replies: @Ozymandias, @Jim Don Bob, @Lurker

    “Twitter produces an endless supply of what Daniel Boorstin called “pseudo-events,” which are mother’s milk to the newsmedia.”

    I call them conveniently timed squirrels. Thus most media outlets = squirrel chutes.


    “And Lake Buena Vista is nearer to Kissimmee than it is to Orlando.”

    Only in the geographical sense. Kissimmee is a Potemkin T-shirt village, go two blocks south of the strip and you are in cracker land. I met some great people there, but also a lot of disturbed and disturbing individuals.

  • @CJ
    @Anonymous Nephew


    ... his son shouldn’t have carried out the massacre because “God himself will punish those involved in homosexuality.”
     
    That sounds more like Christianity than Islam. Romans 12:19, the King James Version:

    Vengeance is mine, I will repay, saith the Lord.

    Replies: @passerby

    who ever needs context?

    ^-feel free to quote, but, whatever you do, don’t present your enemies case honestly, to yourself or others.

    18 If it be possible, as much as lieth in you, live peaceably with all men.

    19 Dearly beloved, avenge not yourselves, but rather give place unto wrath: for it is written, Vengeance is mine; I will repay, saith the Lord.

    20 Therefore if thine enemy hunger, feed him; if he thirst, give him drink: for in so doing thou shalt heap coals of fire on his head.

    21 Be not overcome of evil, but overcome evil with good.

    • Replies: @CJ
    @passerby

    My post noted the distinction between Christianity, which tells its followers to leave retribution to God, and Islam, which commands believers to smite the heads of infidels. I do not consider Christians to be my enemies.

  • @Stephen R. Diamond
    What repels me in Trump's tweet (apart from his addiction to Twitter, along with his playmate Elizabeth Warren) is his typical doublespeak. He doesn't want congratulations - then why does he mention that he received them? Such a deep and obvious dishonesty in this sleezy character, like Cruz, although with a different presentation; and like Clinton.

    I can understand in logical terms why some of you support him: you think it's the white American's last stand. But how do you stomach the blowhard?

    Replies: @V Vega, @Yojimbo/Zatoichi, @Jenner Ickham Errican, @Forbes

    If you pay attention to Twitter (I don’t), it’s like comments here that create a back-and-forth conversation. One comment, taken out of the middle of a running conversation doesn’t stand on its own–it is out of context, but is part of a larger conversation.

    The lapdog media and talking head pundits extract elements of the conversation in an attempt to find the Holy Grail “gotcha.”

    But then you knew that.

    The more relevant question is: How do you stomach that dishonesty of the lapdog media? As it leads you around by your nose telling you what to think? Every minute of the day?

  • @Grandpa Jack
    @Richard of Melbourne

    If he would just be quiet, instead of saying,"see I told you so"... The people see he is right, no need to flaunt it and appear to be uncaring. He really needs to get a PR advisor. if he already has one, he should fire him, and replace him with someone who doesn't keep letting things happen.

    Replies: @Phil, @The Millennial Falcon, @The most deplorable one, @guest, @Tex, @Forbes, @Bill

    On what planet are you currently residing?

  • Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Stephen R. Diamond
    @V Vega

    You're saying that I'm immature and effeminate because my sense of revulsion at Trump overrules my reason. Some liberals apply this same idea - they speak of "holding your nose" and voting Clinton.

    But you're distorting my meaning. I indicated that I understood why you would vote for him. I probably would too, were I deluded enough to accept your assumptions. My question was: how do you stomach him? Which is to say, in the liberal argot, how do you vote for him without holding your nose. Instead taking in a deep breath of the stench.

    Replies: @Yojimbo/Zatoichi, @BenKenobi, @Anon, @e

    Mature people understand they’re not voting for a God-Emperor or a Daddy Substitute. They realize they’re voting for a human being with flaws whose opinions more closely represent their own than that of other people in the political field.

    People who are neurotic, low-IQ, and/or inept at the tasks of daily living (i.e., Democrats) want a perfect God-Emperor or a Daddy who is expected to solve all the voters’ problems by giving them tons of free stuff and coddling so they don’t have to take care of themselves by growing up, getting a job, and looking after themselves.

    Democrats have serious emotional hangups about their leaders and defend them with psychiatric level-denial to a pitch that is just plain nuts. Witness Hillary’s email scandal and the Dems’ wild refusal to admit that her idiotic and reckless behavior makes her unfit for high office. Dems also idealize their leaders to a crazy degree if they can get away with it, such as in the virtual worship of Obama or JFK, neither of which is grown-up behavior.

  • @Leftist conservative
    when is the MSM going to start talking about the fact that the cowardly orlando cops waited outside for 3 hours eating doughnuts while Mateen was able to kill many more people inside the club before the cops finally ran out of excuses and had to go inside the nightclub and do their jobs?

    And since the MSM won't do their jobs, then that is where the online blogosphere comes in, right? Chortle...

    Replies: @William Badwhite

    “before the cops finally ran out of excuses and had to go inside the nightclub and do their jobs?”

    You saw the same thing during the massacre at Virginia Tech: cops hiding behind brick walls as the Korean slaughtered people.

    I don’t know why this surprises anyone. Police are not Marines. They are not going to mount high-risk charges to rescue civilians.

    Courts have repeatedly held that the police are not obligated to defend or protect you. This is yet another reason for private citizens to consider carrying guns.

    • Replies: @V Vega
    @William Badwhite


    Courts have repeatedly held that the police are not obligated to defend or protect you. This is yet another reason for private citizens to consider carrying guns.
     
    We saw all we needed to see during the Rodney King Riots. Police went into hiding, and negroes ruled the streets, except the streets with citizens armed with weapons. Google it up. Korean grocers who saved themselves from financial ruin were the ones sitting on their grocery store roofs with assault weapons.

    This is also why the argument "our founding fathers didn't envision assault weapons" is specious, since our founding fathers intent was to empower citizens to defend themselves, while acknowledging that a well armed citizenry keeps the government militia in check. Our founders recognized that politicians were most often a short-sighted, cowardly lot, and all too many of them only understand is the suggestion of an angry citizenry banging on their front door with a rifle butt at 3 in the morning.

    That's why "gun nuts" are so passionate about protecting gun rights. They know that once the citizenry gives up the right, the real government shitshow begins. While occasional nuts acting out with guns is heartbreakingly tragic, an unarmed America would be far worse.

    If our government agrees to outlaw assault weapons for the police and the military, then we can talk about geting rid of them in the private sector. Like that'll ever happen.

    Otherwise, as usual, fuck ya'll.
    , @Leftist conservative
    @William Badwhite


    “before the cops finally ran out of excuses and had to go inside the nightclub and do their jobs?”

    You saw the same thing during the massacre at Virginia Tech: cops hiding behind brick walls as the Korean slaughtered people.

    I don’t know why this surprises anyone. Police are not Marines. They are not going to mount high-risk charges to rescue civilians.

    Courts have repeatedly held that the police are not obligated to defend or protect you. This is yet another reason for private citizens to consider carrying guns.
     
    Fine. Now go up a level. Look at the big picture. How does the media portray the cops? As heroes. And don't tell me otherwise. I have worked in the media, and I read my first newspaper in the early 1960s.

    I just want some truth regarding reality. That's all.
  • @Big Bill
    @candid_observer

    Barney Frank after Kristallnacht:


    Mr. Frank also said, commenting that this would irk his friends on the political left: “There is a Nazi element here. Yes, the overwhelming majority of Nazis don’t do this, but there is clearly, sadly, an element in the interpretation of Nazism that has some currency, some interpretation in Germany that encourages killing people — and Jewish. people are on that list. And I think it is fair to ask leaders of the Nazi community, religious and otherwise, to spend some time combating this.’’
     
    Ahh. If only Jews had taken such calm, nuanced, measured, thoughtful tones in 1938. But instead they declared war on the Nazis and caused them to feel threatened and get angry.

    Replies: @Forbes

    Well done. Obviously Barney Frank doesn’t want to needlessly upset his friends on the Left.

  • @guest
    Twitter produces an endless supply of what Daniel Boorstin called "pseudo-events," which are mother's milk to the newsmedia. The thing Trump is being criticized for didn't really happen. At most, he failed to control Public Relations like a good political robot. If you want politicians and everyone else to sound like robots, by all means, continue this line of "news" reporting.

    Replies: @Ozymandias, @Jim Don Bob, @Lurker

    Yeah, but the MSM gobbles these psuedo-events up just like polls. The stories write themselves. “This is what the people are thinking”. I will bet you dollars to donuts not 1% of Americans tweet. But the MSM does with all their buds, so that’s the reality, right?

    And then these morons are continually surprised by Trump’s popularity. Pauline Kael, call your office.

  • @Dwright
    If we harnessed the brain power of John Legend, George Takei, McCain, and Navarro, we could toast a piece of toast… Lightly

    Seriously?

    The only thing Takei ever was part of was Star Trek. Now his living is made off of his gayness and family's internment in WW2. Unbeliveable who we ge as pundits these days.

    (Shatner said he hardly remembered the guy when working on the series, says a lot huh?)

    Replies: @Jim Don Bob, @Je Suis Charlie Martel

    So I was giving them too much credit I guess…

  • @Sean
    @Lurker

    You'r overthinking it, the Orlando shootings were by a Muslim, it is a fair bet that the perpetrator disapproves of Trump and has not been under a rock in for the last year. He was no dummy--this is killing Trump. Not because of his reaction but because it creates a impression that the closer Trump gets to the White House the more Americans will be in danger. If I was willing to stop Trump by any means necessar, I would do it just that way. Nothing the Donald might have said about Orlando can fight the impact of massacres that he is the putative beneficiary of. So Omar Mateen wins even in death.

    No, this is in effect a strategy of tension in which the population considering a radical departure from the establishment get confronted with alarming portents and , and much more dreadful things which may come if they vote for the radical reformer. Security lies with more of the same, and Clinton will pray for more massacres if she is wise. It doesn't really matter who does the mass killing or why, Trump will become associated with terrifying slaughter, And don't think this is the last.

    Replies: @Ragno, @Eric Novak, @Tex, @Jefferson

    “the closer Trump gets to the White House the more Americans will be in danger.”

    This Orlando terrorist attack occurred under Barack Hussein Obama’s watch, not Donald Trump’s watch.

    You know what they say about stones and glass houses. The Left can’t say Americans will be in more danger under Donald’s watch without contradicting themselves and coming off as hypocrites. The Obama administration has done an extremely horrible job of stopping terrorist plot attacks before they happen.

  • @Merema
    Everybody loves their narrative, but few want to acknowledge the facts. Everybody wants to say..see, see, I told you so…

    The facts are : a mentally ill second generation Muslim male, the intranet, ISIS mass murder ideology, America’s culture of mass shooting, homophobic third world family and easy access to guns.

    Omar is a nutcase, bipolar, unstable and hateful. From what I read, he hates gays, jews, black and women, another George Zimmerman-like loser who tried and failed to join the police force, raging against the world’s minorities even though he is one himself.

    The bigger issue that Omar brings to focus is of course immigration, not just Muslim immigration.

    Common sense strict pro America immigration policies can be implemented without alienating and angering the world with nazi like proclamations against “Muslims”.

    Compared to immigration from the rest of the world, Muslim immigration has always been limited-that’s why only 1% of America is Muslim-and should continue to be even more so-minimal Syrian refugees for example.

    But America should not be distracted by “Muslims” from the much larger issue of mass immigration from the third world-stay focused people!! Who cares if Obama does not says “Radical Islam”?!

    Mass immigration from Africa, Middle East and Latin America (except Chile and Argentina) is what’s killing American civilization. America can not survive with too many of the second generation from these regions because they mostly turn out to be underachievers or alienated and resentful with the help of liberals who teach them to hate the once majority Whites.

    Maybe Muslim terrorists might have done America a favor because it took them to wake sleepy Americans up to the dangers of unrestrained third world immigration, and to question the Narrative.

    It is not too late and the damages done to America can still be rolled back if only Americans would stay on message and unite on immigration-forget BLM, abortion, the 1%, the middle east, social security-these can all be fixed later.

    Replies: @Eric Novak, @Ttjy

    Agree. I would stop all immigration. If a few Europeans want to come , that might be ok.

  • The most deplorable one [AKA "#Fourth doorman of the apocalypse"] says:
    @Jefferson
    @NeonBets

    "Bring on the Hashtags. I expect will start to see one hit on Monday evening, or Tuesday evening at the latest.

    #IStandWithGaysAndMuslims
    #ItsNotAboutIslam
    #IWillPartyWithIslam"

    I will add more.

    #IslamIsGayFriendly
    #MuslimsAndGaysUnite
    #IAmQueerAndILoveThatIslamIsHere
    #MuslimsAndGaysAreAllies
    #ChristianityIsNoBetter
    #GaysStandWithTheProphetMuhammad
    #GaysAreTheBedrockOfIslam
    #WeAreTheMuslimLiberace

    Replies: @The most deplorable one

    How about:

    #GaysBleedForTheProphetMuhammad

  • The most deplorable one [AKA "#Fourth doorman of the apocalypse"] says:
    @Anonymous
    When will people wake up, hypothetically Trump gets elected, builds his wall, bans and deports all Muslims what next. Make anyone who is a part of the LGBT community criminals, revoke the rights of all minorities and women stay true to his word of forcing our allies to pay for protection. This causes a domino effect in which Europe is at war within itself and with Russia. Japan and the rest of Asia is dominated by china. Which also kills jobs in America because of all the world turmoil. Wake up people Lucifer is Trump his goal: Destroy the world.

    Replies: @guest, @Big Bill, @The most deplorable one, @Jack D

    Stay rational, my friend.

  • @Ozymandias
    @Travis

    By "improve" I did not mean increased body count, I meant more irony pie in the Left's face.

    Replies: @Travis

    understood, but using gasoline would have forced a different narrative from the leftists, they could not blame it on guns and divert the publics attention clamoring to ban certain types of firearms.

  • @NeonBets
    Bring on the Hashtags. I expect will start to see one hit on Monday evening, or Tuesday evening at the latest.

    #IStandWithGaysAndMuslims
    #ItsNotAboutIslam
    #IWillPartyWithIslam

    Replies: @Jefferson, @Hibernian

    I will party with Islam and only ginger ale and root beer will be served; the girls will all wear the most fashionable burquas.

  • @Jenner Ickham Errican
    @Stephen R. Diamond

    Many of Trump’s tweets, sayings, etc. are perfectly honed to induce hand-flapping hysteria in his OMG I CAN’T EVEN virtue-signaling detractors.

    One of the best is his infamous Cinco de Mayo “taco bowl” tweet. Sarcastic, self promoting text: Check. Shit eating grin: Check. Intriguing enough that NYDN’s mellifluously named Gersh Kuntzman had to check it out. (Verdict: Yummy, but overpriced.)

    Replies: @Kylie

    Trump’s Cinco de Mayo Taco Bowl tweet was great.

    But for some reason the recent pic of Trump eating McDonald’s on his private jet really got me. I loved the whole “What? Me worry?” insouciance of it. It went perfectly with the orange tan and the obvious combover.

    Trump really enjoys having FU money and I really enjoy watching him enjoy it. But what I really like is my suspicion that he’d be pretty much the same without it.

    • Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican
    @Kylie

    Yes! For a guy acknowledged to have a yuuuge ego, it’s insouciant indeed to release a pic taken mid-chomp.

    That gimlet-eyed contemplation... He’s officially celebrating, yet still “hungry.” Lowest common denominator caloric sustenance wolfed on his own jet: winkingly All American to the limit. Would possibly give a NYT Style editor the vapors. The pic could have been a source for the late sculptor Duane Hanson if he did a ‘candid’ series featuring ‘master of the universe’ types.

  • Sean says:
    June 13, 2016 at 5:42 pm GMT • 200 Words

    “Overthinking it” = is laughable levels of projection on your part (I’m being charitable). Muslim terrorist did this under Hussein’s watch, Trump’s much stronger on the issue than cankles, end of typical American thinking on the subject.

    Saudi Crown Prince claims on Sunday that he’s funded 20% of Hillary’s campaign. Link:

    Oy vey. FFS, Trump is gonna have a field day with that. He should make that one of a handful of statements he constantly throws at her, from now until election day. “Hillary Clinton – the Saudi Candidate.” (“The Arabian Candidate” rolls off the tongue, but isn’t as politically savvy).

    I can understand in logical terms why some of you support him: you think it’s the white American’s last stand. But how do you stomach the blowhard?

    Actually opposing Hillary helps.

    Now let us ask you how you make your way through life reacting from stimuli as if you are a neurotic, petulant 14 year old schoolgirl?

    Lol. Leftists do seem oddly fond of talking about their tummy-aches.

    Ahh. If only Jews had taken such calm, nuanced, measured, thoughtful tones in 1938. But instead they declared war on the Nazis and caused them to feel threatened and get angry.

    Perfect analogy. You just won the Internet.

    • Replies: @Lurker
    @Svigor


    If only Jews had taken such calm, nuanced, measured, thoughtful tones in 1938. But instead they declared war on the Nazis
     
    Of course they did declare war on the Nazis - in 1933!

    http://antimatrix.org/Convert/img/Judea.Declares.War.594.png

  • @Anonymous
    When will people wake up, hypothetically Trump gets elected, builds his wall, bans and deports all Muslims what next. Make anyone who is a part of the LGBT community criminals, revoke the rights of all minorities and women stay true to his word of forcing our allies to pay for protection. This causes a domino effect in which Europe is at war within itself and with Russia. Japan and the rest of Asia is dominated by china. Which also kills jobs in America because of all the world turmoil. Wake up people Lucifer is Trump his goal: Destroy the world.

    Replies: @guest, @Big Bill, @The most deplorable one, @Jack D

    I gather from your hysteria that you must understand on some visceral level that the Orlando shootings have put Trump several steps closer to the White House. But you are not going to change the mind of anyone who is not already a true believer by this kind of demented ranting.

  • @Stan Adams
    @Jefferson

    And the thing is that Disney's Gay Day is always the first Saturday in June - it was last week. I'm surprised we haven't heard more about that - the kook shoots up a LGBTQQIP2SAA bar only a week after one of the biggest LGBTQQIP2SAA shindigs in the world. (Certainly it's the biggest LGBTQQIP2SAA event in Orlando.)

    Of course, Disney flacks can say truthfully, with a straight face, that Disney World is not in Orlando - it's in Lake Buena Vista. And Lake Buena Vista is nearer to Kissimmee than it is to Orlando.

    Replies: @Grandpa Jack, @Jefferson

    What a great idea. A bunch of pop tarts dressed flamboyantly putting on vulgar displays all day long in front of my 6 and my 4 yr old. Why, I’m going to reserve us spots right now. A brilliant way to increase Disneyland’s patronage from mainstream American families who make up the lion’s share of their business.

  • Art says:

    Is Trump going to blow the presidential election? There is NO way that Hillary should win.

    It is time to abandon his reality show campaign – the Trump Soap Opera.

    The Trump Soap Opera speech – 1 line about what Hillary has done wrong – 3 lines calling her the same name over and over – then half an hour talking about himself and how he has overcome his opponents by being a hard ass. Then some 1 liners about right wing gripes. And then “Make America great again.”

    This is NOT going to win the presidency.

    If he loses the election he will be the biggest jerk face joke ever to run for president.

    p.s. I say this as one who wants him to win.

  • e says:
    @Stephen R. Diamond
    @V Vega

    You're saying that I'm immature and effeminate because my sense of revulsion at Trump overrules my reason. Some liberals apply this same idea - they speak of "holding your nose" and voting Clinton.

    But you're distorting my meaning. I indicated that I understood why you would vote for him. I probably would too, were I deluded enough to accept your assumptions. My question was: how do you stomach him? Which is to say, in the liberal argot, how do you vote for him without holding your nose. Instead taking in a deep breath of the stench.

    Replies: @Yojimbo/Zatoichi, @BenKenobi, @Anon, @e

    Which is to say, in the liberal argot, how do you vote for him without holding your nose.

    The same way I ate liver when I was anemic as a kid. I did it because it was good for me. I literally held my nose as I chewed the stuff and swallowed. BTW, it [both the liver and the holding of the nose] worked.

    • Replies: @Ragno
    @e

    Some are born great; some achieve greatness; some have greatness thrust upon them.

    Trump is almost certainly standing behind Door #3 - which is just as valid as Doors 1 or 2, and often politically preferable to either.

  • @Grandpa Jack
    @Richard of Melbourne

    If he would just be quiet, instead of saying,"see I told you so"... The people see he is right, no need to flaunt it and appear to be uncaring. He really needs to get a PR advisor. if he already has one, he should fire him, and replace him with someone who doesn't keep letting things happen.

    Replies: @Phil, @The Millennial Falcon, @The most deplorable one, @guest, @Tex, @Forbes, @Bill

    Did you miss the part where Trump won the GOP nomination with no money in the teeth of the establishment’s vocal hatred? You are witnessing genius PR.

  • @Mike Street Station
    @Jefferson


    Why does Minnesota and Michigan have more Muslims than Florida? When the weather in Florida is a lot more similar to the weather in The Middle East, North Africa, and Somalia.
     
    I can only guess about Michigan, but I'm guessing that is where a lot of the earlier Christian Arabs settled, so the newer Muslim ones were probably attracted to an area that had similar language and food. Minnesota is more clear. That's where the US government settled lots of Somali's from the 90's on. Since you are talking about a large contingent of social services dependent people, they are not going anywhere while they are hooked up into the welfare lifeline. The only Somali's who can leave are the ones who actually integrate, get job skills and an education.

    Replies: @415 reasons

    The only Somali’s who can leave are the ones who actually integrate, get job skills and an education.

    In practice, of course, the only Somalis that leave are the ones that head back to Somalia or Syria to wage jihad.

  • I heard that Trump said, that after Orlando, Obama should advocate his reign and Hillary should be hanged.

    p.s. Is Trump capable of understatement?

  • @Jack D
    @SFG

    Trump is insulated from these charges by the fact that Bill is an actual rapist. They (being Hillary and her collaborators in the media and the Party) know they are vulnerable for having enabled and shielded Bill for decades and the pot is in no position to call the kettle black.

    Also, the type of people who get fainting spells over the kind of "rape" that happens when you change your mind months or years after the fact are already not voting for Trump and those who are voting for him figure that this is more proof that he is really a macho guy.

    Replies: @ben tillman

    Trump is insulated from these charges by the fact that Bill is an actual rapist.

    It’s been a while, but I recall being convinced that Willey and/or Broadrick was telling the truth.

  • @Stan Adams
    @Jefferson

    And the thing is that Disney's Gay Day is always the first Saturday in June - it was last week. I'm surprised we haven't heard more about that - the kook shoots up a LGBTQQIP2SAA bar only a week after one of the biggest LGBTQQIP2SAA shindigs in the world. (Certainly it's the biggest LGBTQQIP2SAA event in Orlando.)

    Of course, Disney flacks can say truthfully, with a straight face, that Disney World is not in Orlando - it's in Lake Buena Vista. And Lake Buena Vista is nearer to Kissimmee than it is to Orlando.

    Replies: @Grandpa Jack, @Jefferson

    “And the thing is that Disney’s Gay Day is always the first Saturday in June – it was last week. I’m surprised we haven’t heard more about that – the kook shoots up a LGBTQQIP2SAA bar only a week after one of the biggest LGBTQQIP2SAA shindigs in the world. (Certainly it’s the biggest LGBTQQIP2SAA event in Orlando.)

    Of course, Disney flacks can say truthfully, with a straight face, that Disney World is not in Orlando – it’s in Lake Buena Vista. And Lake Buena Vista is nearer to Kissimmee than it is to Orlando.”

    I know Disney World is in Lake Buena Vista, I meant Orlando in the broader sense, as in the Greater Orlando metropolitan area.

  • @William Badwhite
    @Leftist conservative

    "before the cops finally ran out of excuses and had to go inside the nightclub and do their jobs?"

    You saw the same thing during the massacre at Virginia Tech: cops hiding behind brick walls as the Korean slaughtered people.

    I don't know why this surprises anyone. Police are not Marines. They are not going to mount high-risk charges to rescue civilians.

    Courts have repeatedly held that the police are not obligated to defend or protect you. This is yet another reason for private citizens to consider carrying guns.

    Replies: @V Vega, @Leftist conservative

    Courts have repeatedly held that the police are not obligated to defend or protect you. This is yet another reason for private citizens to consider carrying guns.

    We saw all we needed to see during the Rodney King Riots. Police went into hiding, and negroes ruled the streets, except the streets with citizens armed with weapons. Google it up. Korean grocers who saved themselves from financial ruin were the ones sitting on their grocery store roofs with assault weapons.

    This is also why the argument “our founding fathers didn’t envision assault weapons” is specious, since our founding fathers intent was to empower citizens to defend themselves, while acknowledging that a well armed citizenry keeps the government militia in check. Our founders recognized that politicians were most often a short-sighted, cowardly lot, and all too many of them only understand is the suggestion of an angry citizenry banging on their front door with a rifle butt at 3 in the morning.

    That’s why “gun nuts” are so passionate about protecting gun rights. They know that once the citizenry gives up the right, the real government shitshow begins. While occasional nuts acting out with guns is heartbreakingly tragic, an unarmed America would be far worse.

    If our government agrees to outlaw assault weapons for the police and the military, then we can talk about geting rid of them in the private sector. Like that’ll ever happen.

    Otherwise, as usual, fuck ya’ll.

    • Agree: Ozymandias
  • @passerby
    @CJ

    who ever needs context?

    ^-feel free to quote, but, whatever you do, don't present your enemies case honestly, to yourself or others.

    18 If it be possible, as much as lieth in you, live peaceably with all men.

    19 Dearly beloved, avenge not yourselves, but rather give place unto wrath: for it is written, Vengeance is mine; I will repay, saith the Lord.

    20 Therefore if thine enemy hunger, feed him; if he thirst, give him drink: for in so doing thou shalt heap coals of fire on his head.

    21 Be not overcome of evil, but overcome evil with good.

    Replies: @CJ

    My post noted the distinction between Christianity, which tells its followers to leave retribution to God, and Islam, which commands believers to smite the heads of infidels. I do not consider Christians to be my enemies.

  • Leftist conservative [AKA "corporate slave wandering down fluorescent hallway"] says: • Website
    @William Badwhite
    @Leftist conservative

    "before the cops finally ran out of excuses and had to go inside the nightclub and do their jobs?"

    You saw the same thing during the massacre at Virginia Tech: cops hiding behind brick walls as the Korean slaughtered people.

    I don't know why this surprises anyone. Police are not Marines. They are not going to mount high-risk charges to rescue civilians.

    Courts have repeatedly held that the police are not obligated to defend or protect you. This is yet another reason for private citizens to consider carrying guns.

    Replies: @V Vega, @Leftist conservative

    “before the cops finally ran out of excuses and had to go inside the nightclub and do their jobs?”

    You saw the same thing during the massacre at Virginia Tech: cops hiding behind brick walls as the Korean slaughtered people.

    I don’t know why this surprises anyone. Police are not Marines. They are not going to mount high-risk charges to rescue civilians.

    Courts have repeatedly held that the police are not obligated to defend or protect you. This is yet another reason for private citizens to consider carrying guns.

    Fine. Now go up a level. Look at the big picture. How does the media portray the cops? As heroes. And don’t tell me otherwise. I have worked in the media, and I read my first newspaper in the early 1960s.

    I just want some truth regarding reality. That’s all.

  • @Eric Novak
    @Merema

    Nothing that I've read yet indicates that Omar displayed any symptoms of any disease other than being a violent, misogynistic follower of Islam. No indications of any extreme mood swings, mania, or black hole depression. Zero. Nothing. Bipolar disorder patients generally don't behave like terrorists.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @LondonBob

    He appears to have been gay himself, mentally unstable, had an odd father and used steroids. I doubt he was a particularly devout Muslim.

    • Replies: @Das
    @LondonBob

    Afghanistan is a place where it's common for adult men to rape little boys. There's a lot of cognitive dissonance on the homosexuality issue. It appears that this guy is a closeted homosexual, but I don't think it changes the underlying motive. This wasn't a lover's quarrel at a gay bar that somehow got out of hand.

    Even if this guy did suffer from some sort of mental illness, it doesn't seem like he was totally deranged and out of touch with reality. He was a radical jihadist who celebrated 9/11 and whose father ran a pro-Taliban television program. He knew what he was doing, and it was an ideologically-based attack.

    Replies: @Jefferson

    , @Eric Novak
    @LondonBob

    He was as stable as every other jihadist. The visits to the gay club and the queer dating app on his mobile are much more likely to be terror research than indications of closeted gayness since he had been married twice and was aghast at the sight of two men kissing. Contrary to gay propaganda, most who are sickened by open gay behavior are not closeted. He also attended mosque regularly for years and was a recent member of a prayer group run by an imam interviewed several times.

    Replies: @Jefferson

  • @Kylie
    @Jenner Ickham Errican

    Trump's Cinco de Mayo Taco Bowl tweet was great.

    But for some reason the recent pic of Trump eating McDonald's on his private jet really got me. I loved the whole "What? Me worry?" insouciance of it. It went perfectly with the orange tan and the obvious combover.

    Trump really enjoys having FU money and I really enjoy watching him enjoy it. But what I really like is my suspicion that he'd be pretty much the same without it.

    Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican

    Yes! For a guy acknowledged to have a yuuuge ego, it’s insouciant indeed to release a pic taken mid-chomp.

    That gimlet-eyed contemplation… He’s officially celebrating, yet still “hungry.” Lowest common denominator caloric sustenance wolfed on his own jet: winkingly All American to the limit. Would possibly give a NYT Style editor the vapors. The pic could have been a source for the late sculptor Duane Hanson if he did a ‘candid’ series featuring ‘master of the universe’ types.

    • Agree: Kylie
  • Das says:
    @LondonBob
    @Eric Novak

    He appears to have been gay himself, mentally unstable, had an odd father and used steroids. I doubt he was a particularly devout Muslim.

    Replies: @Das, @Eric Novak

    Afghanistan is a place where it’s common for adult men to rape little boys. There’s a lot of cognitive dissonance on the homosexuality issue. It appears that this guy is a closeted homosexual, but I don’t think it changes the underlying motive. This wasn’t a lover’s quarrel at a gay bar that somehow got out of hand.

    Even if this guy did suffer from some sort of mental illness, it doesn’t seem like he was totally deranged and out of touch with reality. He was a radical jihadist who celebrated 9/11 and whose father ran a pro-Taliban television program. He knew what he was doing, and it was an ideologically-based attack.

    • Agree: Jim Don Bob
    • Replies: @Jefferson
    @Das

    "Afghanistan is a place where it’s common for adult men to rape little boys."

    Yeah Homosexual pedophilia is very common in Afghanistan. Yet if a census taker were to ask these Gay Muslim Afghani men what their sexual orientation is, they would all say they are "Heterosexuals", because you can't be openly Gay in Afghanistan. Homosexuality in Afghanistan is all down-low.

  • @e
    @Stephen R. Diamond

    Which is to say, in the liberal argot, how do you vote for him without holding your nose.

    The same way I ate liver when I was anemic as a kid. I did it because it was good for me. I literally held my nose as I chewed the stuff and swallowed. BTW, it [both the liver and the holding of the nose] worked.

    Replies: @Ragno

    Some are born great; some achieve greatness; some have greatness thrust upon them.

    Trump is almost certainly standing behind Door #3 – which is just as valid as Doors 1 or 2, and often politically preferable to either.

  • @Svigor

    Sean says:
    June 13, 2016 at 5:42 pm GMT • 200 Words
    @Lurker
     
    "Overthinking it" = is laughable levels of projection on your part (I'm being charitable). Muslim terrorist did this under Hussein's watch, Trump's much stronger on the issue than cankles, end of typical American thinking on the subject.

    Saudi Crown Prince claims on Sunday that he’s funded 20% of Hillary’s campaign. Link:
     
    Oy vey. FFS, Trump is gonna have a field day with that. He should make that one of a handful of statements he constantly throws at her, from now until election day. "Hillary Clinton - the Saudi Candidate." ("The Arabian Candidate" rolls off the tongue, but isn't as politically savvy).

    I can understand in logical terms why some of you support him: you think it’s the white American’s last stand. But how do you stomach the blowhard?
     
    Actually opposing Hillary helps.

    Now let us ask you how you make your way through life reacting from stimuli as if you are a neurotic, petulant 14 year old schoolgirl?
     
    Lol. Leftists do seem oddly fond of talking about their tummy-aches.

    Ahh. If only Jews had taken such calm, nuanced, measured, thoughtful tones in 1938. But instead they declared war on the Nazis and caused them to feel threatened and get angry.
     
    Perfect analogy. You just won the Internet.

    Replies: @Lurker

    If only Jews had taken such calm, nuanced, measured, thoughtful tones in 1938. But instead they declared war on the Nazis

    Of course they did declare war on the Nazis – in 1933!

  • @guest
    Twitter produces an endless supply of what Daniel Boorstin called "pseudo-events," which are mother's milk to the newsmedia. The thing Trump is being criticized for didn't really happen. At most, he failed to control Public Relations like a good political robot. If you want politicians and everyone else to sound like robots, by all means, continue this line of "news" reporting.

    Replies: @Ozymandias, @Jim Don Bob, @Lurker

    The MSM churn out endless, over-simplified ideas, quotes, memes, lies and other crap. Twitter then regurgitates this in an even more debased, emotive, out-of-context and moronic fashion (if that’s even possible!) See also Faceberg.

    Then the MSM reports what is said on Twitter, telling us it’s “what the internet thinks” as if the MSM and Twitter were two islands remote from each other.

    The MSM does not go on to Disqus to see “what the internet thinks”.

    • Agree: Jim Don Bob
  • Muslim trying to burn down gay club has already been tried

    http://www.kiro7.com/news/friend-said-gay-club-arson-suspect-may-be-planning/81846361

    Attempted murder of an entire club full gays got him only 10 years

  • The most deplorable one [AKA "#Fourth doorman of the apocalypse"] says:

    The real problem is Donald Trump because he makes gays hate themselves and kill other gays who are the most importantest people in the world:

    https://www.rt.com/usa/346613-orlando-mateen-gay-tendencies/

  • @reiner Tor
    @Anonymous

    The left doesn't wait for the bodies to cool with their anti-Islamophobia frontlash, so why should Trump?

    Replies: @Je Suis Omar Mateen

    “The left doesn’t wait for the bodies to cool with their anti-Islamophobia frontlash, so why should Trump?”

    The Rainbow Progratard Left immediately goes into “Never let a good crisis go to waste” mode in every situation, rarely letting the bodies drop below 98 degrees, so The Donald should of course act as they do. What’s sauce for the gander is sauce……

  • @LondonBob
    @Eric Novak

    He appears to have been gay himself, mentally unstable, had an odd father and used steroids. I doubt he was a particularly devout Muslim.

    Replies: @Das, @Eric Novak

    He was as stable as every other jihadist. The visits to the gay club and the queer dating app on his mobile are much more likely to be terror research than indications of closeted gayness since he had been married twice and was aghast at the sight of two men kissing. Contrary to gay propaganda, most who are sickened by open gay behavior are not closeted. He also attended mosque regularly for years and was a recent member of a prayer group run by an imam interviewed several times.

    • Replies: @Jefferson
    @Eric Novak

    "He was as stable as every other jihadist. The visits to the gay club and the queer dating app on his mobile are much more likely to be terror research than indications of closeted gayness since he had been married twice"

    Yeah in the history of Mankind no closeted Gay man has ever married a woman in order to use her as a beard.

    100 percent of the male Homosexual population on the planet is out of the closet and openly Gay, which why is no female in the history of Mankind has ever been diagnosed with AIDS/HIV.

  • @Eric Novak
    @LondonBob

    He was as stable as every other jihadist. The visits to the gay club and the queer dating app on his mobile are much more likely to be terror research than indications of closeted gayness since he had been married twice and was aghast at the sight of two men kissing. Contrary to gay propaganda, most who are sickened by open gay behavior are not closeted. He also attended mosque regularly for years and was a recent member of a prayer group run by an imam interviewed several times.

    Replies: @Jefferson

    “He was as stable as every other jihadist. The visits to the gay club and the queer dating app on his mobile are much more likely to be terror research than indications of closeted gayness since he had been married twice”

    Yeah in the history of Mankind no closeted Gay man has ever married a woman in order to use her as a beard.

    100 percent of the male Homosexual population on the planet is out of the closet and openly Gay, which why is no female in the history of Mankind has ever been diagnosed with AIDS/HIV.

  • @Das
    @LondonBob

    Afghanistan is a place where it's common for adult men to rape little boys. There's a lot of cognitive dissonance on the homosexuality issue. It appears that this guy is a closeted homosexual, but I don't think it changes the underlying motive. This wasn't a lover's quarrel at a gay bar that somehow got out of hand.

    Even if this guy did suffer from some sort of mental illness, it doesn't seem like he was totally deranged and out of touch with reality. He was a radical jihadist who celebrated 9/11 and whose father ran a pro-Taliban television program. He knew what he was doing, and it was an ideologically-based attack.

    Replies: @Jefferson

    “Afghanistan is a place where it’s common for adult men to rape little boys.”

    Yeah Homosexual pedophilia is very common in Afghanistan. Yet if a census taker were to ask these Gay Muslim Afghani men what their sexual orientation is, they would all say they are “Heterosexuals”, because you can’t be openly Gay in Afghanistan. Homosexuality in Afghanistan is all down-low.

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