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Can White Kids Grow Up To Be Black? Some Preschoolers Think So
May 19, 2016 8:32 AM

ANN ARBOR (WWJ) – Can a person’s race change over time? No — but preschoolers seem to think so.

According to a University of Michigan study, white preschoolers often believe a person’s race can change over time, and the youngsters even think they can can grow up to become black adults.

Steven Roberts, a U-M doctoral student and the study’s lead author, said that although children may be aware of races other than their own, they don’t have a strong understanding of what race is — at least not to the degree of adults.

Roberts and colleague Susan Gelman, U-M professor of psychology and linguistics, examined the extent that children believed race was stable; that is, whether a black child would grow up to be a black adult.

The experiment included 74 children and 28 adults. Children were recruited in the Midwest at museums, and adults were recruited online.The data were collected between 2014 and 2015.

Researchers showed participants pictures of children who were happy or angry and black or white, and asked them to indicate which of two adults each child would grow up to be. One adult matched the child in emotion (but not race) and the other matched the child in race (but not emotion).

Participants could have chosen a same-emotion but different race match, or a same-race but different emotion match.

White adults, white 9- to 10-year-olds and racial minority 5- to 6-year-olds selected the same-race matches, which meant they believed, for instance, that a white child would grow up to be a white adult.

But white 5- to 6-year-olds showed a different pattern. They selected the same-emotion and same-race matches at equal rates, which meant they were not committed to the belief that race was stable.

Of course, all adults know that little boys can grow up to be mommies. That’s just common sense.

For more on transracialism and transgenderism, see my 2015 Taki’s article.

 
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  1. Professor Susan Gelman, nu?

    Celebrating the Jewish Experience at Michigan

    Here’s the question I’d ask her. Can I identify as a Jew, and not be a Jew, and hate Jews?

    Just how far does her “identity fluidity” go, anyway?

    • Replies: @Dr. X

    Professor Susan Gelman, nu?
    Celebrating the Jewish Experience at Michigan

     

    Ahhh, you beat me to it.
    , @boogerbently
    See Fred Reeds latest article on fredoneverything.
    About a transphylum woman.
    , @gruff

    Can I identify as a Jew, and not be a Jew, and hate Jews?
     
    Luke Ford does.
    , @Cagey Beast
    As Ann Coulter says in this recent BBC interview: "oh God, not the Jews again!"

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=obXQ0IzIjs8
    , @Harold
    That’s Andrew Gelman’s sister, I believe.

    She was interviewed on the Rationally Speaking podcast subsequent to Andrew Gelman being interviewed. It wasn’t a particularly good interview. She didn’t seem as astute as her brother. In her brother’s interview he mentioned her reearch, and the little he said about it I found to be more interesting than her entire interview.

    Andrew Gelman’s interview was entitled Why do Americans vote the way they do?. It was ok. Missing things from an iSteve point of view.

    While I’m talking about Rationally Speaking they also had Uri Simonsohn on Detecting fraud in social science. Strangely they didn’t mention that the main unreproducable results in social science, sterotype threat, ego depletion, etc. are those beloved of the left. Simonsohn has a blog called Data Colada that might interest Sailer and Sailerites.
    , @Spotted Toad
    She's Andrew Gelman's sister (the statistician/blogger).
    , @SFG
    Actually, you could undergo the full conversion process and then go full Kevin MacDonald. You would then be technically Jewish though.
    , @Bard of Bumperstickers
    I identify as a silicon-based lifeform. The periodic table of the elements, the much-vaunted "laws" (Sez who?) of thermodynamics, biochemistry, and other social constructs, foist upon alternative lifeforms by the human-chauvinist patriarchy, all conspire to dismiss and denigrate my existence. I have hired an attorney. We shall overcome!
  2. Five-year-olds have the excuse of their extreme youth for believing in the ridiculous idea that people can change race. (As the learned Dr Cosby told us, kids say the darnedest things.)

    But what excuse does Rachel Dolezal have? And those postmodernists who agree with her?

    • Replies: @gruff

    (As the learned Art Linkletter told us, kids say the darnedest things.)
     
    ftfy
  3. I thought it was well established that young kids believe that they can grow up to be animals.

    • Replies: @Chrisnonymous
    Andrew Sullivan grew up to be a bear, so I guess they can.
    , @Thomas Fuller
    Goats, presumably.
    , @Rapparee
    I once saw a book which printed the responses of a class of preschoolers to the question "What do you want to be when you grow up?" In addition to the expected "fireman", "astronaut", "lawyer", etc., there were responses like "dinosaur", "Indian", and "dump truck".

    If memory serves, one of the other notions peculiar to extreme youth is that all older people have lived through basically every major period of history- when you're four, you're pretty sure that your own dear dad was on the Mayflower and fought at Gettysburg.
    , @Dissident
    I have been wondering for some time already whether we might yet see "trans-species-ism" emerge as the assault du jour on sanity, decency and objective reality. Is it only a matter of time?
    , @Dissident
    [Mod: I would appreciate it if you could remove both of my previous comments, #42 and #45, as this is meant to replace them. I thank you and apologize for the bother.]

    I have been wondering for some time already whether we might yet see "trans-species-ism" emerge at some point as the latest assault on sanity, decency and objective reality. Is it only a matter of time?

    Imagine the linguistic challenges alone. Many uses of "humanity", such as "our common humanity", would become microagressions. As would, of course, any pejorative use of "beast", "beastly" or "bestial". A whole class of new words would have to be invented and added to the vocabulary ("cis-species"...)

    Concerning bestiality (i.e. carnal intimacy between humans and animals) if the traditional taboos surrounding it had not been abolished by then, circumventing them could be as simple as declaring oneself to be a (non-human) animal trapped in a human body. And, of course, once that would be accepted, it is difficult to imagine there being much logical argument left against allowing a man to marry his (actually) canine (or feline, bovine, porcine...) soul mate.

    "Check your cis-species privilege, you trans-speci-phobic, specist, trans-specist scum!"

  4. If the authors asked white 6-year-olds the question directly (can you grow up to be black or will you stay white), instead of making bizarre inferences from a test question, I suspect they might reached a different conclusion. And I’m no fancy scientist, but n=~25 seems less than ideal.

    • Agree: Nico
  5. I’m glad I’m not a preschooler in 2016.

    This fall’s kindergarteners (the Class of 2029) are only now wading into the reeking cesspool of bullshit and busywork known as the miseducation system. Think of the stinking tripe they’ll be swallowing over the next 13 years.

    God help them.

    • Agree: NickG
    • Replies: @Grandpa Jack
    It definitely feels that school is dumbed down a lot from what I was learning at that age. I personally spend about an hour after I get home from work each day with my daughter teaching her material that is several grade levels over the material she gets in school; she basically learns little to nothing in school beyond getting the socialization. I want her to do well in life, and public schools are not going to get her there. They have no mechanism in her school system to advance kids by a grade or two if they do well (I checked into this in depth), but have every possible assistance you can imagine for kids that do poorly, regardless of the reason.
    , @Corvinus
    "This fall’s kindergarteners (the Class of 2029) are only now wading into the reeking cesspool of bullshit and busywork known as the miseducation system. "

    It's not as bad as you think it is. Homeschool if need be and "indoctrinate" them in your own manner. I'm sure race realism will be on the curriculum docket.
    , @Dissident
    Are there even any private schools left that don't indoctrinate the students with Cultural Marxist dogma and cant? Isn't home schooling often the only real option left?
  6. Alternative explanation: half of white kids are smart enough to think abstractly about emotion, while zero black kids are.

    Mrs. 25 year old had an even better explanation: all black parents have had “the talk” with their black 6 year olds, and explained race to them. While many white parents haven’t explained it yet to their white 6 year olds.

    • Agree: gruff
    • Replies: @Triumph104
    The non-white kids are described as "minority", not black. A museum is an odd place to look for black children, especially accompanied by parents instead of a school group. (The researchers needed parental permission for the study.)

    Although I did find this, so who knows: "One possible reason underlying these differences could be experience. Roberts says black children might learn about racial differences at younger ages because of their exposure to more racial diversity, whereas their white peers might not get those experiences until they attend grade school."

    Maybe they went to black-themed museums.

    http://www.ns.umich.edu/new/releases/23927-can-white-kids-grow-up-to-be-black-some-preschoolers-think-so
    , @ATX Hipster

    Mrs. 25 year old had an even better explanation: all black parents have had “the talk” with their black 6 year olds, and explained race to them. While many white parents haven’t explained it yet to their white 6 year olds.
     
    That's how I interpreted it, too. White parents are acutely aware of the type of awkward conversations that will be had with the pre-K teachers if Junior starts prattling on about how he's white in class. Black parents don't have that concern.
  7. Sailer,

    You were in advertising: what do you think of Mises on “business propoganda”?
    “Business propaganda must be obtrusive and blatant. It is its aim to attract the attention of slow people, to rouse latent wishes, to entice men to substitute innovation for inert clinging to traditional routine. In order to succeed, advertising must be adjusted to the mentality of the people courted. It must suit their tastes and speak their idiom. Advertising is shrill, noisy, coarse, puffing, because the public does not react to dignified allusions. It is the bad taste of the public that forces the advertisers to display bad taste in their publicity campaigns. The art of advertising has evolved into a branch of applied psychology, a sister discipline of pedagogy.”
    https://mises.org/blog/art-advertising

  8. There was a time in my childhood when I wanted to be Willie Mays or Willie McCovey. That doesn’t mean I wanted to be black. I don’t think kids don’t think that way. People become aware of racial differences and/or racial disharmony through experience. Little kids don’t have much.

    A test of the test would be to compare these photo selections for typical male and female occupations. How many boys, etc. click “yes” to a photo of Peggy Fleming ice skating versus a picture of Hank Aaron hitting a home run? (actually, that might not work, because I had a crush on all scantily clad figure skaters when I was 5-6, although Peggy came rather later). I’m thinking that not too many little boys would think they could grow up to be girls. (Just to induce absolute hysteria, show them pictures of Bruce Jenner doing Decathalon stuff and Caitlyn doing whatever, and watch their little heads explode.)

  9. But white 5- to 6-year-olds showed a different pattern.

    The white 5-6 year olds probably showed a higher belief in Santa Claus and the Tooth Fairy too.

  10. Orwell references have become somewhat ubiquitous in mocking P.C. culture, but the term “doublethink” really very accurately captures leftist racial thought. For example, Ta-Nehisi Coates often emphasizes in Between the World and Me that whiteness is artificial/inorganic/false consciousness, while simultaneously emphasizing the genuine/organic/real nature of black racial identity. We are told that Race Does Not Exist, and also told that we have to represent ourselves on college applications as a very specific supposedly non-existent race. We are told that you can identify as whatever gender (57 options thereof being available on Facebook) you choose, and a person’s gender identity is a discretionary choice not a biological reality; but if you dare to identify as any race you choose, you’ll be targeted for the next Two Minutes Hate.

    As more and more categories of White Male Cisgender oppression are uncovered by social justice detectives, it will become harder and harder to keep all this straight.

    • Replies: @e
    And you've given into them by actually using "cisgender." Please, stop that. Now and forever more, cease using the jabberwocky they've shoved into your mouth.
    , @Dissident

    We are told that you can identify as whatever gender (57 options thereof being available on Facebook)
     
    Does anyone even offer that many flavors of ice cream?

    Maybe Ben & Jerry's, to celebrate and promote gender diversity and trans tolerance, will introduce a special flavor of ice cream for each of the 57 gender categories.

    (B&J are notorious buggery-celebrating SJWs who, among many other things, introduced a special flavor of ice cream to celebrate same-sex "marriage".)

  11. This was an episode of the Partridge family.

    • Replies: @Danindc
    That's awesome. Blacks and whites both were laughing their asses off with that line.
    , @TomSchmidt
    That's excellent.
  12. “But white 5- to 6-year-olds showed a different pattern. They selected the same-emotion and same-race matches at equal rates, which meant they were not committed to the belief that race was stable.”

    So… doesn’t this mean they are less racist than minorities? And wouldn’t that agree with what we know about whites vs. minorities from brain imaging studies (where people can’t lie)?

    • Replies: @AndrewR
    I hate to say it but this study would seem to support the claim that whites have the "privilege" of ignoring race.

    Of course this "privilege" can easily become a deadly liability if one wanders into the wrong locales.
    , @annie
    marsh, it likely means that white children have had less exposure to racism than minorities therefore they have less awareness of it and in some or many cases no awareness of it. children are not born racist it's a learned feature. they can learn about it either from their parents or from life circumstances (like being a victim of it). children are smart and they pick up others emotions. unfortunately it's normal that a black child in our society would have an awareness of racism before a white child because it's more common they would be a victim of it at a young age.
  13. Very interesting. From what I’ve read, black children tend to keep up with white children until around the age of six, then the often remarkable intellectual/emotional differences begin to become apparent.

    When I was 6 years old, the first kid to ever physically attack me in a schoolyard for no good reason was a black kid. The only black kid in the school, btw. I hadn’t considered the difference between white and black kids until that happened, and then I went on to notice he wasn’t as bright as most of my other friends. I noticed he acted like us–until he didn’t act like us.

    I noticed he would indulge in occasional violence. He’d engage in it once in a while, not often, and seemingly at the drop of a hat.

    For myself and my white and hispanic playmates, we’d have to be in an outright rage to become violent against a playmate. The black kid went to it like he was completing a chore that he wasn’t very interested in, one way or the other. He’d swing on someone, and later act like nothing very notable had happened.

    At 6 years old, I found that to be extremely strange, and began to notice pathological behavior from black people occupying the middle and left hand side of the bell curve from then on.

    By high school, I understood there were black people who were just like me, some who were smarter, and better than me, but the majority… were not. They had pathologies like slime on a snail. It’s like they identify themselves by their pathologies. To rid them of their pathologies would destroy them.

    So, I think I figured black people out well enough by high school. I was around blacks a lot, however. I don’t think white youngsters, who don’t have the opportunity to be around a decent sampling of black people will be able to reach such a conclusion due to school administrations filling their heads with political nonsense, and that’s a shame.

    A lot of tears are in store for a lot of white folks in the future.

  14. And did you know that blacks fear trees?

    Mickey Fearn, the National Park Service Deputy Director for Communications and Community Assistance, claims that “black people don’t visit national parks because they associate them with slaves being lynched by their masters.”
    “Alcee Hastings, an impeached judge, and a coalition of minority groups is demanding increased “inclusiveness” at national parks. High on their list is the claim that, “African-Americans have felt unwelcome and even fearful in federal parklands during our nation’s history because of the horrors of lynching.”

    http://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/262727/racist-trees-our-national-parks-daniel-greenfield

    • Replies: @Lurker
    That reminds me, must get those saplings planted.
    , @Mr. Anon
    “African-Americans have felt unwelcome and even fearful in federal parklands during our nation’s history because of the horrors of lynching.”

    Clearly, we need to cut down all the trees in National Parks in order to make them inclusive and welcoming to African Americans. Because, if we our commitment to diversity were to be somehow called into question, that would be the real tragedy.
    , @Reg Cæsar

    Mickey Fearn, the National Park Service Deputy Director for Communications and Community Assistance, claims that “black people don’t visit national parks because they associate them with slaves being lynched by their masters.”
     
    You mean it's not the association with Madison Grant?

    And why would a master lynch his own slave? Seems awfully counterproductive.
    , @Reg Cæsar

    Mickey Fearn...
     
    As in "slip him a mickey"?
    , @ben tillman

    Mickey Fearn, the National Park Service Deputy Director for Communications and Community Assistance, claims that “black people don’t visit national parks because they associate them with slaves being lynched by their masters.”
     
    Sure -- masters lynched their slaves much like today's farmers routinely blow up their tractors, set fire to their crops, and otherwise destroy their valuable property.
    , @Buffalo Joe
    Actually, Mr. Fern, (my spelling seems more appropriate for a Park's Dept. employee), blacks are infinitely safer in Parks than in their own neighborhoods. 421 murders to date in Chicago.
  15. anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    What to make of this? White pre-schoolers have greater ‘perception fluidity’? Their parents indulge them longer in childhood fantasies and magical thinking? Perhaps the researchers consider this to be the basis for a grant-worthy proposal for further study. Racism Studies 201: harassing young white children to see where they’ve gone wrong.

  16. A bit O/T, but I had to mention that Google is in rare form today. I think I’m going to have to start using Yahoo search. A Google doodle honoring Yuri Kochiyama. Yes, truly an honorable American. What does a search into this Great American worthy of note on the home searchpage by the biggest US search engine turn up? A loudmouthed rabble-rousing activist with all the boilerplate stereotypical ideals you’d expect from a 60s far-left liberal. But while most of the rest of the people from that era grew up, she continued on with it through to the present day. She praised Osama bin Laden for the attacks on 9/11, and even went on record thanking Islam for Osama. She supported a number of other violent attacks on the US and Europe. In a sane world, Google would put out a doodle honoring the day she pushed up the daisies, instead of her birthday.

    • Replies: @Kylie
    "In a sane world, Google would put out a doodle honoring the day she pushed up the daisies, instead of her birthday."

    No. In a sane world, she would have been stripped of her citizenship and deported to Japan.

    And there would be no Google.
    , @Thomas Fuller
    Escape the tentacles of Google:

    https://duckduckgo.com/
    , @berserker
    I guess the community organizer in the WH had something to do with it. After all Google has a branch office in the WH, doesn't it?
    , @AndrewR
    Even a cursory skim of her biography would suggest that she never "grew up" after the sixties because she was already quite grown up. She was older than the parents of many 1960s radicals. Of course, reading her biography it becomes difficult to blame her for her hatred for the US government. Then again, she went off the deep end by becoming a Sunni, and praising Mao and bin Laden, among other insane things.
    , @dumpstersquirrel
    "I had to mention that Google is in rare form today. I think I’m going to have to start using Yahoo search."

    I ditched the anti-White and heterophobic Google years ago. I use Bing, which gets results at least as good as Google's and a homepage that has interesting and/or cute photos of animals, landscapes, or cityscapes.

    Bing almost never displays anti-White and/or heterophobic images, and I congratulated them recently for not shoving anti-White, pro-sodomy images in my face and told them that's why I stopped using Google.
    , @Triumph104
    You can avoid American-themed doodles by switching countries. Try Google Singapore.
    , @Dissident
    Sounds like just the type of thing that John Derbyshire would bring-up on Radio Derb. I hope he does.
  17. Young white kids see a lot of black girls grow up to look like mullato women with straight brown and blond hair, so it isn’t that crazy for them to think race can change over time. In contrast, black kids probably realise that their mothers go to considerable cosmetic lengths to look more white.

    • Agree: Triumph104
    • Replies: @Jefferson
    "Young white kids see a lot of black girls grow up to look like mullato women with straight brown and blond hair, so it isn’t that crazy for them to think race can change over time."

    Do most Whites in Australia see Blacks and Mulattos as being different races from each other?

  18. Makes me recall what I’ve always remembered about my first black friend. Sometimes he would say when I grow up I’m gonna be Penny Hardaway. That was third grade, nine years old. He wasn’t aware that he was being just precious, which I myself understood about him, and liked him that way. So he sincerely still lived within that realm of fantasy land at age nine. And if you really absorb the lesson of that, you will understand why black criminals generally love being criminals. Life imitates Art so much in them, there with Denzel the american gangster. And the kids name was Dante.

    Anyways, I suppose Chesterton must be lost on some in a certain way: “Fairy tales are more than true – not because they tell us dragons exist, but because they tell us dragons can be defeated.”

    • Replies: @Triumph104
    A white radio host said he believed in Santa Claus until age 11. But yes, I see more of this fantasy thinking in black boys. In separate incidents a black 12 and 13 year-old killed a 5 and 6 year-old girl in wrestling moves. A black 18 year-old got on a hoverboard with a loaded gun and accidently shot and killed his cousin.

    In Ohio, the black man walking around Walmart with a rifle he grabbed off the shelf and yakking into a cell phone. Tamir Rice in a fantasy world with a toy gun.


    Life imitates Art so much in them, there with Denzel the american gangster. And the kids name was Dante.
     
    Blacks don't consider those names similar. They like "D" names that require a little more force to pronounce than say David. Denzel, Dante, Dmitri, D'Shawn, Damon.
    , @Dumbo
    Aparently Dante is a popular name among African-americans (and derivations such as Dantevious). I wonder why? Were their parents scholars who read the Divine Comedy? Or maybe there is some other American reference that escapes me.
  19. I recently asked my 3-year-old daughter what she wanted to be when she grew up.

    Her: “A doctor”

    Me: “What kind of doctor?”

    Her: “A girl doctor. Or a boy doctor.”

    • Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican
    Good for her. If boys can grow up to be gynecologists, I don’t see why girls can’t grow up to be andrologists.
  20. @Stan Adams
    I'm glad I'm not a preschooler in 2016.

    This fall's kindergarteners (the Class of 2029) are only now wading into the reeking cesspool of bullshit and busywork known as the miseducation system. Think of the stinking tripe they'll be swallowing over the next 13 years.

    God help them.

    It definitely feels that school is dumbed down a lot from what I was learning at that age. I personally spend about an hour after I get home from work each day with my daughter teaching her material that is several grade levels over the material she gets in school; she basically learns little to nothing in school beyond getting the socialization. I want her to do well in life, and public schools are not going to get her there. They have no mechanism in her school system to advance kids by a grade or two if they do well (I checked into this in depth), but have every possible assistance you can imagine for kids that do poorly, regardless of the reason.

    • Replies: @stillCARealist
    Sorry to sound like a broken record, but there's always homeschooling. Sounds like you're pretty much already doing it.

    Your child's education really isn't anybody else's responsibility besides yours (and the daughter's as she gets older).
    , @AndrewR
    No Child Getting Ahead
  21. @Olorin
    Professor Susan Gelman, nu?

    Celebrating the Jewish Experience at Michigan
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aow3-MtZ86w

    Here's the question I'd ask her. Can I identify as a Jew, and not be a Jew, and hate Jews?

    Just how far does her "identity fluidity" go, anyway?

    Professor Susan Gelman, nu?
    Celebrating the Jewish Experience at Michigan

    Ahhh, you beat me to it.

    • Replies: @Dee
    They didn't call it 'Jew U' for 90+ years for nothing! You can't swing a dead cat in A2 without hitting one. First thing I thought of with the Gelman name.

    If they axed people and their kids at a gun range, super cross race, monster truck race, they wouldn't get the 'special needs' kids, like at the museum....
  22. @Olorin
    Professor Susan Gelman, nu?

    Celebrating the Jewish Experience at Michigan
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aow3-MtZ86w

    Here's the question I'd ask her. Can I identify as a Jew, and not be a Jew, and hate Jews?

    Just how far does her "identity fluidity" go, anyway?

    See Fred Reeds latest article on fredoneverything.
    About a transphylum woman.

    • Replies: @Olorin
    Thanks, booger, but I think I'll give that a miss. Erm, a ms? A maize?

    I have had flying dreams my entire life and in my younger years wondered why. Always thought that if I could go back to the Pre-Void and order up a body, it would be a wandering albatross.

    But never once did I mistake that for actually being a sea bird stuck in a primate body.

    In my 20s, hanging out with evolutionary biologists (I couldn't afford to pursue that myself) in grad school and later following the field as an avocation, I concluded that the "flying dreams" were probably actually "swimming dreams" out of some part of the wetware derived from Our Inner Fish. Or earlier even. The "flying" sensation in these dreams has none of the body-density one feels when, say, hang gliding, or that all birds struggle with in take-off, landing, and maneuvering. Thus it makes more sense that it's sea-based.

    Though I did know a woo lady who was certain the flying dreams were evidence that I had Special Spiritual Powers that set me apart from other humans...and would qualify me as her wallet forever. But I digress.

    The point is, we're all at root transphylum, trans species, etc. And even that's not the point. The point is, everything that has happened since we branched off and evolved, and what we became, and what we may become from here.

    Nostalgic reaching back in biological time is erasing life on earth. But try telling SJWs that. Their "identity fluidity" ladies are so ignorant of even 19th century biology, it aches.

  23. This looks like one of those social psychology studies that will never be replicated. I’m not sure why people take any study in this field seriously until it’s been replicated numerous times with large sample sizes.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
    "This looks like one of those social psychology studies that will never be replicated. I’m not sure why people take any study in this field seriously until it’s been replicated numerous times with large sample sizes."

    Thread winner.
  24. @Andrewski
    This was an episode of the Partridge family.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=64Vs0ZeB9yo

    That’s awesome. Blacks and whites both were laughing their asses off with that line.

  25. I would say “transracial” is much less ridiculous than in transgender, since cases where people don’t fall clearly into one race are much more common than for those between the sexes. In fact, it’s quite common for people to “change ethnicity”.

    There’s been research showing a lot of people do change their ethnic group between censuses. The typical example is a Hispanic person who starts calling themselves a white person, and that’s often associated with a change in wealth. Race is a lot harder to pin down objectively than biological sex.

    Moreover, America’s definition of race is itself racist and arbitrary. Obama’s no blacker than he is white, and a 1/4 or 1/8 black person often still claims to be “black”.

    • Replies: @Dissident
    Good points.

    (I am uncomfortable, though, with your use of the word "racism", which I think should be avoided as much as possible. Problematic to begin with, it is has long lost any real meaning -- except, of course, as a convenient means to discredit, a priori, anything that transgresses the obligatory pieties of the entrenched orthodoxy on race. Much like what Orwell said in "Politics and the English Language" about the word 'facism')
  26. @Olorin
    Professor Susan Gelman, nu?

    Celebrating the Jewish Experience at Michigan
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aow3-MtZ86w

    Here's the question I'd ask her. Can I identify as a Jew, and not be a Jew, and hate Jews?

    Just how far does her "identity fluidity" go, anyway?

    Can I identify as a Jew, and not be a Jew, and hate Jews?

    Luke Ford does.

    • Agree: Thea
    • Replies: @reiner Tor
    Assuming he's a real person and his claims of having converted to and practicing Orthodox Judaism are true, he had to undergo a very painful and humiliating surgery in adulthood to become a Jew, and many commentators here questioned his Judaism. For example I think one of the half-Jewish commentators (who admittedly is a member of a Christian denomination) micro-aggressed by telling him that he wasn't a Jew. I remember in Hungary some Hungarian gentiles questioning the Hungarian-ness of Jews, and the uproar that followed. I'm sure micro-aggressions against Luke Ford would be just as ferociously denounced, were they known to the public. Or not.
    , @JsP

    I always liked Noam Chomsky’s crack to me when Christopher [Hitchens] announced in Grand Street that he was a Jew: “From anti-Semite to self-hating Jew, all in one day.
     
  27. @Richard of Melbourne
    Five-year-olds have the excuse of their extreme youth for believing in the ridiculous idea that people can change race. (As the learned Dr Cosby told us, kids say the darnedest things.)

    But what excuse does Rachel Dolezal have? And those postmodernists who agree with her?

    (As the learned Art Linkletter told us, kids say the darnedest things.)

    ftfy

    • Replies: @Richard of Melbourne
    I stand corrected (Art never made it down under, hence my ignorance).
  28. @MC
    I recently asked my 3-year-old daughter what she wanted to be when she grew up.

    Her: "A doctor"

    Me: "What kind of doctor?"

    Her: "A girl doctor. Or a boy doctor."

    Good for her. If boys can grow up to be gynecologists, I don’t see why girls can’t grow up to be andrologists.

  29. @Olorin
    Professor Susan Gelman, nu?

    Celebrating the Jewish Experience at Michigan
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aow3-MtZ86w

    Here's the question I'd ask her. Can I identify as a Jew, and not be a Jew, and hate Jews?

    Just how far does her "identity fluidity" go, anyway?

    As Ann Coulter says in this recent BBC interview: “oh God, not the Jews again!”

  30. @MSP
    This looks like one of those social psychology studies that will never be replicated. I'm not sure why people take any study in this field seriously until it's been replicated numerous times with large sample sizes.

    “This looks like one of those social psychology studies that will never be replicated. I’m not sure why people take any study in this field seriously until it’s been replicated numerous times with large sample sizes.”

    Thread winner.

    • Agree: res
  31. @jill
    And did you know that blacks fear trees?

    Mickey Fearn, the National Park Service Deputy Director for Communications and Community Assistance, claims that "black people don’t visit national parks because they associate them with slaves being lynched by their masters."
    "Alcee Hastings, an impeached judge, and a coalition of minority groups is demanding increased “inclusiveness” at national parks. High on their list is the claim that, “African-Americans have felt unwelcome and even fearful in federal parklands during our nation’s history because of the horrors of lynching.”

    http://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/262727/racist-trees-our-national-parks-daniel-greenfield

    That reminds me, must get those saplings planted.

    • Replies: @Ivy
    It is never too early to begin forming and shaping young minds in the approved manner of thinking. Future generations will benefit from pre-natal thought curating to put to rest any lingering nostalgia about tabula rasa.
  32. @Grandpa Jack
    A bit O/T, but I had to mention that Google is in rare form today. I think I'm going to have to start using Yahoo search. A Google doodle honoring Yuri Kochiyama. Yes, truly an honorable American. What does a search into this Great American worthy of note on the home searchpage by the biggest US search engine turn up? A loudmouthed rabble-rousing activist with all the boilerplate stereotypical ideals you'd expect from a 60s far-left liberal. But while most of the rest of the people from that era grew up, she continued on with it through to the present day. She praised Osama bin Laden for the attacks on 9/11, and even went on record thanking Islam for Osama. She supported a number of other violent attacks on the US and Europe. In a sane world, Google would put out a doodle honoring the day she pushed up the daisies, instead of her birthday.

    “In a sane world, Google would put out a doodle honoring the day she pushed up the daisies, instead of her birthday.”

    No. In a sane world, she would have been stripped of her citizenship and deported to Japan.

    And there would be no Google.

    • Agree: Chrisnonymous
    • Replies: @Clyde

    And there would be no Google.
     
    I use Bing search instead plus the add on "TrackMeNot". So Microsoft/Bing gets totally inaccurate data on what my searches are. For crucial searches I resort to google twice a week.
    Internet search technology has diffused to where Bing is 90% as good as Google search and this is good enough for me. The Google boys are too much in bed with the Obama regime...

    Visitor Logs Reveal Google Lobbyists Have Unrivaled White House Access _______ http://nation.foxnews.com/2016/05/17/visitor-logs-reveal-google-lobbyists-have-unrivaled-white-house-access
     
    , @Reg Cæsar

    No. In a sane world, she would have been stripped of her citizenship and deported to Japan.
     
    Short of a threat of a trade embargo, or a third A-bomb, why would Japan even take her? She was born in San Pedro.

    I can certainly understand being driven crazy by FDR's tyranny, but most Japanese-Californians registered Republican, not Maoist. And then Islam... no comment.

    However, she was 100% right about one thing-- Puerto Rico should have been cut loose. A long time ago.

    , @SFG
    There'd be a Google, they'd just stick to famous scientists rather than random activists.
    , @Hrw-500
    Nah, we should had deported her to Venezuela, in a house without security system and no body guards unlike some others *cough* like Sean Penn.

    And slightly off-topic, even some leftists try to stay away from SJW and others weirdos like Susan Gelman in a website called "Altleft.com" https://altleft.com/ maintened by the guy who started the blog https://www.xenophobe.net/
  33. @Grandpa Jack
    It definitely feels that school is dumbed down a lot from what I was learning at that age. I personally spend about an hour after I get home from work each day with my daughter teaching her material that is several grade levels over the material she gets in school; she basically learns little to nothing in school beyond getting the socialization. I want her to do well in life, and public schools are not going to get her there. They have no mechanism in her school system to advance kids by a grade or two if they do well (I checked into this in depth), but have every possible assistance you can imagine for kids that do poorly, regardless of the reason.

    Sorry to sound like a broken record, but there’s always homeschooling. Sounds like you’re pretty much already doing it.

    Your child’s education really isn’t anybody else’s responsibility besides yours (and the daughter’s as she gets older).

  34. @Lurker
    That reminds me, must get those saplings planted.

    It is never too early to begin forming and shaping young minds in the approved manner of thinking. Future generations will benefit from pre-natal thought curating to put to rest any lingering nostalgia about tabula rasa.

  35. @jill
    And did you know that blacks fear trees?

    Mickey Fearn, the National Park Service Deputy Director for Communications and Community Assistance, claims that "black people don’t visit national parks because they associate them with slaves being lynched by their masters."
    "Alcee Hastings, an impeached judge, and a coalition of minority groups is demanding increased “inclusiveness” at national parks. High on their list is the claim that, “African-Americans have felt unwelcome and even fearful in federal parklands during our nation’s history because of the horrors of lynching.”

    http://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/262727/racist-trees-our-national-parks-daniel-greenfield

    “African-Americans have felt unwelcome and even fearful in federal parklands during our nation’s history because of the horrors of lynching.”

    Clearly, we need to cut down all the trees in National Parks in order to make them inclusive and welcoming to African Americans. Because, if we our commitment to diversity were to be somehow called into question, that would be the real tragedy.

  36. @Olorin
    Professor Susan Gelman, nu?

    Celebrating the Jewish Experience at Michigan
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aow3-MtZ86w

    Here's the question I'd ask her. Can I identify as a Jew, and not be a Jew, and hate Jews?

    Just how far does her "identity fluidity" go, anyway?

    That’s Andrew Gelman’s sister, I believe.

    She was interviewed on the Rationally Speaking podcast subsequent to Andrew Gelman being interviewed. It wasn’t a particularly good interview. She didn’t seem as astute as her brother. In her brother’s interview he mentioned her reearch, and the little he said about it I found to be more interesting than her entire interview.

    Andrew Gelman’s interview was entitled Why do Americans vote the way they do?. It was ok. Missing things from an iSteve point of view.

    While I’m talking about Rationally Speaking they also had Uri Simonsohn on Detecting fraud in social science. Strangely they didn’t mention that the main unreproducable results in social science, sterotype threat, ego depletion, etc. are those beloved of the left. Simonsohn has a blog called Data Colada that might interest Sailer and Sailerites.

  37. It’s difficult not to conclude that white people have a screw loose about race. Maybe black comedians are correct: “white people are crazy!”

  38. @Anonymous
    I thought it was well established that young kids believe that they can grow up to be animals.

    Andrew Sullivan grew up to be a bear, so I guess they can.

  39. And parents should pay more attention to the propaganda their kids get in preschool and kindergarten (yes that young). Remember, there are tons of dumb social justice warriors who go into jobs like this.

    One kindergarten teacher was proud of how she had kids mix clay of different colors, to see the “beautiful” new creations they made by combining them. She knew exactly what she was doing and what she was trying to encourage in their mating habits later in life.

  40. In Israel, some children believed that as Jews became old, they began to speak Yiddish.

  41. Dee says:
    @Dr. X

    Professor Susan Gelman, nu?
    Celebrating the Jewish Experience at Michigan

     

    Ahhh, you beat me to it.

    They didn’t call it ‘Jew U’ for 90+ years for nothing! You can’t swing a dead cat in A2 without hitting one. First thing I thought of with the Gelman name.

    If they axed people and their kids at a gun range, super cross race, monster truck race, they wouldn’t get the ‘special needs’ kids, like at the museum….

  42. @jill
    And did you know that blacks fear trees?

    Mickey Fearn, the National Park Service Deputy Director for Communications and Community Assistance, claims that "black people don’t visit national parks because they associate them with slaves being lynched by their masters."
    "Alcee Hastings, an impeached judge, and a coalition of minority groups is demanding increased “inclusiveness” at national parks. High on their list is the claim that, “African-Americans have felt unwelcome and even fearful in federal parklands during our nation’s history because of the horrors of lynching.”

    http://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/262727/racist-trees-our-national-parks-daniel-greenfield

    Mickey Fearn, the National Park Service Deputy Director for Communications and Community Assistance, claims that “black people don’t visit national parks because they associate them with slaves being lynched by their masters.”

    You mean it’s not the association with Madison Grant?

    And why would a master lynch his own slave? Seems awfully counterproductive.

    • Replies: @Wyrd
    This.

    Slaves in Southern states back in the 19th century cost the current equivalent of a decent car. Owners beating, starving, working, or whipping any one of them to death would be the equivalent of running a car straight into a wall for the hell of it. Perhaps the extremely rich made doing so a sport, but from a pure economic point of view, it would be disastrously expensive. Better to treat slaves relatively decently for gain; hence the laws guaranteeing them healthcare and old-age support at Old Master's expense that Southern states had.

    , @Harry Baldwin
    As you point out, there would not be much point in a master lynching his slave.

    There were cases of free blacks being lynched after committing some horrendous crime. For example, Charles Dickens wrote about Francis McIntosh, a mulatto, who was burned alive after he stabbed two policemen to death in St. Louis, MO, in 1836.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burning_of_Francis_McIntosh

    Lynching was mostly associated with the Reconstruction period and beyond, AFAIK.
  43. @Kylie
    "In a sane world, Google would put out a doodle honoring the day she pushed up the daisies, instead of her birthday."

    No. In a sane world, she would have been stripped of her citizenship and deported to Japan.

    And there would be no Google.

    And there would be no Google.

    I use Bing search instead plus the add on “TrackMeNot”. So Microsoft/Bing gets totally inaccurate data on what my searches are. For crucial searches I resort to google twice a week.
    Internet search technology has diffused to where Bing is 90% as good as Google search and this is good enough for me. The Google boys are too much in bed with the Obama regime…

    Visitor Logs Reveal Google Lobbyists Have Unrivaled White House Access _______ http://nation.foxnews.com/2016/05/17/visitor-logs-reveal-google-lobbyists-have-unrivaled-white-house-access

    • Agree: Jim Don Bob
  44. @Kylie
    "In a sane world, Google would put out a doodle honoring the day she pushed up the daisies, instead of her birthday."

    No. In a sane world, she would have been stripped of her citizenship and deported to Japan.

    And there would be no Google.

    No. In a sane world, she would have been stripped of her citizenship and deported to Japan.

    Short of a threat of a trade embargo, or a third A-bomb, why would Japan even take her? She was born in San Pedro.

    I can certainly understand being driven crazy by FDR’s tyranny, but most Japanese-Californians registered Republican, not Maoist. And then Islam… no comment.

    However, she was 100% right about one thing– Puerto Rico should have been cut loose. A long time ago.

    • Replies: @Hhsiii
    I'd give her a pass. Being sent to an internment camp for 3 years after living a fairly sheltered assimilated life might tend to warp your world view.
    , @Kylie
    "Short of a threat of a trade embargo, or a third A-bomb, why would Japan even take her? She was born in San Pedro."

    I understood she was of Japanese ancestry. If Japan wouldn't have taken her, she could have been deported to whatever country would. But as far as I'm concerned, in a sane world, her remarks definitely qualify as "aid and comfort to the enemy" and therefore she should have been treated accordingly.
  45. @jill
    And did you know that blacks fear trees?

    Mickey Fearn, the National Park Service Deputy Director for Communications and Community Assistance, claims that "black people don’t visit national parks because they associate them with slaves being lynched by their masters."
    "Alcee Hastings, an impeached judge, and a coalition of minority groups is demanding increased “inclusiveness” at national parks. High on their list is the claim that, “African-Americans have felt unwelcome and even fearful in federal parklands during our nation’s history because of the horrors of lynching.”

    http://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/262727/racist-trees-our-national-parks-daniel-greenfield

    Mickey Fearn…

    As in “slip him a mickey“?

  46. “White adults, white 9- to 10-year-olds and racial minority 5- to 6-year-olds selected the same-race matches,
    SNIP
    But white 5- to 6-year-olds showed a different pattern. They selected the same-emotion and same-race matches at equal rates, which meant they were not committed to the belief that race was stable.”

    That is it right there. White children hope they can grow up to be Black. The lesson that Blacks are more valued than Whites starts early in this culture.

    The priest at my church (during a virtue signalling session) stated that his mother-in-law wanted her daughter to marry a Black man so that she would have “good looking children.” He said this in front of his white children.

  47. Wyrd says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    Mickey Fearn, the National Park Service Deputy Director for Communications and Community Assistance, claims that “black people don’t visit national parks because they associate them with slaves being lynched by their masters.”
     
    You mean it's not the association with Madison Grant?

    And why would a master lynch his own slave? Seems awfully counterproductive.

    This.

    Slaves in Southern states back in the 19th century cost the current equivalent of a decent car. Owners beating, starving, working, or whipping any one of them to death would be the equivalent of running a car straight into a wall for the hell of it. Perhaps the extremely rich made doing so a sport, but from a pure economic point of view, it would be disastrously expensive. Better to treat slaves relatively decently for gain; hence the laws guaranteeing them healthcare and old-age support at Old Master’s expense that Southern states had.

    • Replies: @Hippopotamusdrome
    Presumably, you mean the specific case of a white owner of a black slave, and not black/black, arab/black, arab/white, mesoamerican/mesoamerican etc.
  48. @gruff

    Can I identify as a Jew, and not be a Jew, and hate Jews?
     
    Luke Ford does.

    Assuming he’s a real person and his claims of having converted to and practicing Orthodox Judaism are true, he had to undergo a very painful and humiliating surgery in adulthood to become a Jew, and many commentators here questioned his Judaism. For example I think one of the half-Jewish commentators (who admittedly is a member of a Christian denomination) micro-aggressed by telling him that he wasn’t a Jew. I remember in Hungary some Hungarian gentiles questioning the Hungarian-ness of Jews, and the uproar that followed. I’m sure micro-aggressions against Luke Ford would be just as ferociously denounced, were they known to the public. Or not.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    He's a real person, and you can read about him on Wikipedia. As you can see in the Wiki article, he is an unusual person and it seems highly plausible that he converted for unusual, not religious reasons. Which is why most of his activity seems to involve talking favorably about Kevin MacDonald and other far-right commentators on Jews.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luke_ford

    Luke Carey Ford[1] (born 28 May 1966) is an Australian/American writer, blogger, and former pornography gossip columnist.[2]



    After leaving the Seventh-day Adventist Church, Ford explored atheism. Ford states that he was converted through the Los Angeles Beis Din.[3] Ford says he observes the Jewish Sabbath, attends synagogue regularly, and keeps kosher. He has been asked to leave at least two different congregations.[4] Ford wrote about his religious ostracism in XXX-Communicated: A Rebel Without a Shul.



    In 1995, he became intrigued with the lack of journalistic coverage of the pornography industry, and started to write a book, which would become A History of X.

    In January 1996, after researching porn for a year, Ford wrote, produced, directed and acted in What Women Want, a pornographic video. It was not a success. Ford is credited as “Dick Dundee”.[5]

    In 1997, Ford started his pornography gossip website, LukeFord.com. He said, “I’m not a businessman. I’m not a conventional journalist. I’m a story teller/entertainer/lunatic.”[6]

    Ford was sued for defamation multiple times by people in the porn industry, including by RJB Telecom, whom he (as well as the Federal Trade Commission) accused of dishonesty; Christi Lake, whom he mislabeled in a bestiality photo; and Laurie Holmes (widow of John Holmes), for accusations of prostitution on the set. Ford has said that he has been sued five times to date: one suit was dropped, another was thrown out, another was settled when his insurance company paid $100,000, and the last two were settled when he removed some of his statements without making a retraction.[7] Wired called him “The Most Hated Man in Web Porn”.[6] He was physically assaulted by Mike Albo, an editor for Hustler.[8]

    In August 2001, after urgings of his rabbi, Ford sold his main website, lukeford.com to Netvideogirls.com for $25,000, and created lukeford.net which avoided pornography, and focused more on Jewish issues. One year later, after nearly going broke, he returned to his pornographic roots by starting lukeisback.com with many of his old archives.[9] On 23 October 2007, Ford announced he had sold lukeisback.com and its contents for an undisclosed sum to an undisclosed party.[10] “Any writing I do on the porn industry from now on will be for publications with no porn advertising,” Ford said. Those owners (whose names have not been divulged) ran the site until June 2008 but walked away from the site saying that writing the site was too much work for the money earned.[11] It was sold a second time, with the new owner being long-time industry observer Cindy Loftus.[12]

    AVN Hall of Famer Bill Margold has said that “Luke Ford is exactly what we deserve… Luke’s not really a blogger as much as is an internet journalist”.[9] Ford was also in the 2010 documentary After Porn Ends, which is about life after being a porn actor.
     
    , @ben tillman

    Assuming he’s a real person and his claims of having converted to and practicing Orthodox Judaism are true, he had to undergo a very painful and humiliating surgery in adulthood to become a Jew....
     
    Most men in the US are circumcised.
  49. @gruff

    (As the learned Art Linkletter told us, kids say the darnedest things.)
     
    ftfy

    I stand corrected (Art never made it down under, hence my ignorance).

  50. Off Topic but in case you missed it.

    The Google Doodle celebration for May 19th was for Yuri Kochiyama

    http://dailycaller.com/2016/05/19/google-honors-bin-laden-supporter-with-google-doodle/

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yuri_Kochiyama

    She is notable as one of the few prominent non-black supporters of Black Nationalism. Influenced by Marxism, Maoism, and the thoughts of Malcolm X, she was an advocate for many revolutionary movements.

    Kochiyama in the mid-1960s joined the Revolutionary Action Movement, a clandestine revolutionary nationalist organization which was one of the first organizations in the black liberation movement to attempt to construct a revolutionary nationalism based on a synthesis of the thought of Malcolm X, Marx, Lenin, and Mao Tse Tung. She was one of the few non-blacks invited to join the Republic of New Africa (RNA), established in 1968 and which advocated the establishment of a separate black nation in the U.S South.[8]

  51. When I was 4 or 5 years old, I could not understand why I couldn’t change direction in midair like Mario could. Thinking that I just didn’t have enough airtime, I tried jumping off of higher platforms. I could never get the result I observed in the video game.

    I later devoted much of my life to studying physics.

    They’ll grow out of it, I hope!

  52. @Anonymous
    I thought it was well established that young kids believe that they can grow up to be animals.

    Goats, presumably.

  53. @Grandpa Jack
    A bit O/T, but I had to mention that Google is in rare form today. I think I'm going to have to start using Yahoo search. A Google doodle honoring Yuri Kochiyama. Yes, truly an honorable American. What does a search into this Great American worthy of note on the home searchpage by the biggest US search engine turn up? A loudmouthed rabble-rousing activist with all the boilerplate stereotypical ideals you'd expect from a 60s far-left liberal. But while most of the rest of the people from that era grew up, she continued on with it through to the present day. She praised Osama bin Laden for the attacks on 9/11, and even went on record thanking Islam for Osama. She supported a number of other violent attacks on the US and Europe. In a sane world, Google would put out a doodle honoring the day she pushed up the daisies, instead of her birthday.

    Escape the tentacles of Google:

    https://duckduckgo.com/

  54. JimB says:

    I seem to recall thinking I could grow up to be Bambi when I was four. I also believed in Santa, the Easter Bunny, and the tooth fairy.

    I suppose that I would have been more realistic at an early age had I seen a dead body on the street, never met my dad, or had to listen nightly to my mother turning tricks in the next bedroom.

  55. Steve,

    Here is a nomination for the 2016 induction class of the Steve Sailer Transracial Hall of Fame.

  56. @Reg Cæsar

    No. In a sane world, she would have been stripped of her citizenship and deported to Japan.
     
    Short of a threat of a trade embargo, or a third A-bomb, why would Japan even take her? She was born in San Pedro.

    I can certainly understand being driven crazy by FDR's tyranny, but most Japanese-Californians registered Republican, not Maoist. And then Islam... no comment.

    However, she was 100% right about one thing-- Puerto Rico should have been cut loose. A long time ago.

    I’d give her a pass. Being sent to an internment camp for 3 years after living a fairly sheltered assimilated life might tend to warp your world view.

  57. I don’t think these results indicate what the headline seems to want us to think they indicate, that white children think their noses will get flatter, their melanin content will increase and their hair will get frizzy. Maybe some of them do, but from the data there is no indication any of them has even given phenotype the slightest thought. On the surface at least all it seems to mean is that white children are more likely to be willing to look up to black adults as role models than black children are willing to look up to white adults.

    Given the incarceration, employment and promiscuity differentials between the races, though, that much ought to be worrisome enough by itself.

  58. Yes, Johnny, you can be black when you grow up, our President did. And if you decide to be black, President Obama wants you to “be confident in your blackness”.

  59. It’s pretty typical for black and Hispanic kids to get steadily darker between birth and age seven or eight or so. A pre-schooler’s skin tone would be more helpful than a baby’s, but if you didn’t see their parents, it wouldn’t be a great guide to how they’d look as adults.

  60. @Olorin
    Professor Susan Gelman, nu?

    Celebrating the Jewish Experience at Michigan
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aow3-MtZ86w

    Here's the question I'd ask her. Can I identify as a Jew, and not be a Jew, and hate Jews?

    Just how far does her "identity fluidity" go, anyway?

    She’s Andrew Gelman’s sister (the statistician/blogger).

  61. @Olorin
    Professor Susan Gelman, nu?

    Celebrating the Jewish Experience at Michigan
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aow3-MtZ86w

    Here's the question I'd ask her. Can I identify as a Jew, and not be a Jew, and hate Jews?

    Just how far does her "identity fluidity" go, anyway?

    Actually, you could undergo the full conversion process and then go full Kevin MacDonald. You would then be technically Jewish though.

  62. @Kylie
    "In a sane world, Google would put out a doodle honoring the day she pushed up the daisies, instead of her birthday."

    No. In a sane world, she would have been stripped of her citizenship and deported to Japan.

    And there would be no Google.

    There’d be a Google, they’d just stick to famous scientists rather than random activists.

    • Replies: @Desiderius
    Random activists on Google is more or less the Gell-Mann effect in reverse.
    , @Kylie
    "There’d be a Google, they’d just stick to famous scientists rather than random activists."

    But then it wouldn't be Google, would it? By now, Google is as well-known for its snarky, anti-white male celebrations and doodles as it is for its search functions.

    And Google's chosen activists aren't random.
  63. SFG says:

    5-to-6-year-olds have an incomplete understanding of the world. Next thing they’ll be able to prove the sky is blue.

    I think the death of Optimus Prime in the cartoon hit me hard because I was 7–just old enough to understand death. (And, obviously, didn’t grow up on a farm or similar place where death is encountered as a matter of course.)

    • Agree: Nico
  64. Wait… schools teach Martin Luther King was the greatest human in the history…

    Whadya mean I can’t grow up to be MLK?

  65. @Anonymous
    I thought it was well established that young kids believe that they can grow up to be animals.

    I once saw a book which printed the responses of a class of preschoolers to the question “What do you want to be when you grow up?” In addition to the expected “fireman”, “astronaut”, “lawyer”, etc., there were responses like “dinosaur”, “Indian”, and “dump truck”.

    If memory serves, one of the other notions peculiar to extreme youth is that all older people have lived through basically every major period of history- when you’re four, you’re pretty sure that your own dear dad was on the Mayflower and fought at Gettysburg.

    • Replies: @Charles Erwin Wilson
    At preschool graduation today one of the graduate's response to the question "What do you want to be when you grow up?" was "I want to be a monkey." And yes, he the descendant of northern Europeans (Scandinavians mostly, if not exclusively).

    Of course, in my case, I "was on the Mayflower and fought at Gettysburg" because I have this horrid portrait of me in the closet.
  66. @Kylie
    "In a sane world, Google would put out a doodle honoring the day she pushed up the daisies, instead of her birthday."

    No. In a sane world, she would have been stripped of her citizenship and deported to Japan.

    And there would be no Google.

    Nah, we should had deported her to Venezuela, in a house without security system and no body guards unlike some others *cough* like Sean Penn.

    And slightly off-topic, even some leftists try to stay away from SJW and others weirdos like Susan Gelman in a website called “Altleft.com” https://altleft.com/ maintened by the guy who started the blog https://www.xenophobe.net/

  67. @Grandpa Jack
    A bit O/T, but I had to mention that Google is in rare form today. I think I'm going to have to start using Yahoo search. A Google doodle honoring Yuri Kochiyama. Yes, truly an honorable American. What does a search into this Great American worthy of note on the home searchpage by the biggest US search engine turn up? A loudmouthed rabble-rousing activist with all the boilerplate stereotypical ideals you'd expect from a 60s far-left liberal. But while most of the rest of the people from that era grew up, she continued on with it through to the present day. She praised Osama bin Laden for the attacks on 9/11, and even went on record thanking Islam for Osama. She supported a number of other violent attacks on the US and Europe. In a sane world, Google would put out a doodle honoring the day she pushed up the daisies, instead of her birthday.

    I guess the community organizer in the WH had something to do with it. After all Google has a branch office in the WH, doesn’t it?

  68. Steve, your old article is out of date already. It’s not just Larry/Lana Wachowski, it’s the Wachowski sisters.

  69. @Grandpa Jack
    It definitely feels that school is dumbed down a lot from what I was learning at that age. I personally spend about an hour after I get home from work each day with my daughter teaching her material that is several grade levels over the material she gets in school; she basically learns little to nothing in school beyond getting the socialization. I want her to do well in life, and public schools are not going to get her there. They have no mechanism in her school system to advance kids by a grade or two if they do well (I checked into this in depth), but have every possible assistance you can imagine for kids that do poorly, regardless of the reason.

    No Child Getting Ahead

  70. @Grandpa Jack
    "But white 5- to 6-year-olds showed a different pattern. They selected the same-emotion and same-race matches at equal rates, which meant they were not committed to the belief that race was stable."

    So... doesn't this mean they are less racist than minorities? And wouldn't that agree with what we know about whites vs. minorities from brain imaging studies (where people can't lie)?

    I hate to say it but this study would seem to support the claim that whites have the “privilege” of ignoring race.

    Of course this “privilege” can easily become a deadly liability if one wanders into the wrong locales.

  71. @Stan Adams
    I'm glad I'm not a preschooler in 2016.

    This fall's kindergarteners (the Class of 2029) are only now wading into the reeking cesspool of bullshit and busywork known as the miseducation system. Think of the stinking tripe they'll be swallowing over the next 13 years.

    God help them.

    “This fall’s kindergarteners (the Class of 2029) are only now wading into the reeking cesspool of bullshit and busywork known as the miseducation system. ”

    It’s not as bad as you think it is. Homeschool if need be and “indoctrinate” them in your own manner. I’m sure race realism will be on the curriculum docket.

    • Replies: @Charles Erwin Wilson

    I’m sure race realism will be on the curriculum docket.
     
    While yours will be race surrealism.
  72. @Grandpa Jack
    A bit O/T, but I had to mention that Google is in rare form today. I think I'm going to have to start using Yahoo search. A Google doodle honoring Yuri Kochiyama. Yes, truly an honorable American. What does a search into this Great American worthy of note on the home searchpage by the biggest US search engine turn up? A loudmouthed rabble-rousing activist with all the boilerplate stereotypical ideals you'd expect from a 60s far-left liberal. But while most of the rest of the people from that era grew up, she continued on with it through to the present day. She praised Osama bin Laden for the attacks on 9/11, and even went on record thanking Islam for Osama. She supported a number of other violent attacks on the US and Europe. In a sane world, Google would put out a doodle honoring the day she pushed up the daisies, instead of her birthday.

    Even a cursory skim of her biography would suggest that she never “grew up” after the sixties because she was already quite grown up. She was older than the parents of many 1960s radicals. Of course, reading her biography it becomes difficult to blame her for her hatred for the US government. Then again, she went off the deep end by becoming a Sunni, and praising Mao and bin Laden, among other insane things.

    • Replies: @Grandpa Jack
    "Of course, reading her biography it becomes difficult to blame her for her hatred for the US government."

    Nonsense. I don't think too fondly of the gov't at this point either, and clearly neither do many of the other readers here, but for a sane person that doesn't translate into glorifying the killing of thousands of innocent citizens on 9/11.
  73. @Reg Cæsar

    Mickey Fearn, the National Park Service Deputy Director for Communications and Community Assistance, claims that “black people don’t visit national parks because they associate them with slaves being lynched by their masters.”
     
    You mean it's not the association with Madison Grant?

    And why would a master lynch his own slave? Seems awfully counterproductive.

    As you point out, there would not be much point in a master lynching his slave.

    There were cases of free blacks being lynched after committing some horrendous crime. For example, Charles Dickens wrote about Francis McIntosh, a mulatto, who was burned alive after he stabbed two policemen to death in St. Louis, MO, in 1836.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burning_of_Francis_McIntosh

    Lynching was mostly associated with the Reconstruction period and beyond, AFAIK.

    • Replies: @Triumph104

    In the South, the Irish were so associated with servile labour that they were consistently used as substitutes for slaves in more dangerous tasks like draining plantations, building levees and digging ditches and canals in malaria-infested land. Compared to the valuable investment of a slave, an Irish labourer was cheap and expendable.
     
    The American Irish: A History by Kevin Kenny
  74. OT, but it would be nice to know the real story behind those new Amnesty Intn’l polls about refugees.

  75. @gruff

    Can I identify as a Jew, and not be a Jew, and hate Jews?
     
    Luke Ford does.

    I always liked Noam Chomsky’s crack to me when Christopher [Hitchens] announced in Grand Street that he was a Jew: “From anti-Semite to self-hating Jew, all in one day.

  76. So Steve, my teen son came to me yesterday and told me this girl he knows who is a friend of his friend told him that she wished that he and his brother (three years younger) were both LGBTQ… “Because then you’d be so much better.” This angered my son and he’s chosen to break off contact with this girl. But this is not an isolated incident, I’ve had to have talks about gender and identity with my two relatively normal male sons constantly over the past three years because of all the peer pressure among their young white friends to be some kind of queer, I guess because that’s cool. I do not live in Berkeley or NY, this is small city PA. The tumlbr world is infecting the consciousness of our youth in a very real way. Now honestly I wouldn’t care if my kids came out as gay and I’ve told them as much, But neither have any interest in either sex at this point, much like I did (I didn’t bother with women until late high school early college, books were far more interesting). What concerns me is 1) the pressure is not at all be who you are but be some kind of queer and 2) I definitely don’t want my sons or any other children being pressured into experiences they cannot un-do, and they aren’t ready for.

    • Replies: @Charles Erwin Wilson
    Sow the wind, reap the whirlwind. Lots of needless suffering coming for the innocents that ought to have been protected, and the backlash will be positively Victorian.
  77. OT: A city in California is paying young, mostly black murderers $1,000 per month not to kill anyone else.

    http://www.cnn.com/2016/05/19/health/cash-for-criminals-richmond-california/index.html

    I’d love an extra $1,000/month. Apparently all I have to do is move to Richmond, kill someone, then return to law-abiding behavior.

    • Replies: @Romanian
    That's the problem with initiatives such as this. I've read of more proposals like this one, on this blog even.

    It is demoralizing to law abiding citizens. You do not want to demoralize the core of your peaceful society, because a general breakdown in good behavior follows. Not necessarily killing, but still. The punishment of the guilty also reassures the law-abiding regarding the enforcement of societal rules which they respect even when it is inconvenient for them to do so.
  78. @Grandpa Jack
    A bit O/T, but I had to mention that Google is in rare form today. I think I'm going to have to start using Yahoo search. A Google doodle honoring Yuri Kochiyama. Yes, truly an honorable American. What does a search into this Great American worthy of note on the home searchpage by the biggest US search engine turn up? A loudmouthed rabble-rousing activist with all the boilerplate stereotypical ideals you'd expect from a 60s far-left liberal. But while most of the rest of the people from that era grew up, she continued on with it through to the present day. She praised Osama bin Laden for the attacks on 9/11, and even went on record thanking Islam for Osama. She supported a number of other violent attacks on the US and Europe. In a sane world, Google would put out a doodle honoring the day she pushed up the daisies, instead of her birthday.

    “I had to mention that Google is in rare form today. I think I’m going to have to start using Yahoo search.”

    I ditched the anti-White and heterophobic Google years ago. I use Bing, which gets results at least as good as Google’s and a homepage that has interesting and/or cute photos of animals, landscapes, or cityscapes.

    Bing almost never displays anti-White and/or heterophobic images, and I congratulated them recently for not shoving anti-White, pro-sodomy images in my face and told them that’s why I stopped using Google.

  79. @27 year old
    Alternative explanation: half of white kids are smart enough to think abstractly about emotion, while zero black kids are.

    Mrs. 25 year old had an even better explanation: all black parents have had "the talk" with their black 6 year olds, and explained race to them. While many white parents haven't explained it yet to their white 6 year olds.

    The non-white kids are described as “minority”, not black. A museum is an odd place to look for black children, especially accompanied by parents instead of a school group. (The researchers needed parental permission for the study.)

    Although I did find this, so who knows: “One possible reason underlying these differences could be experience. Roberts says black children might learn about racial differences at younger ages because of their exposure to more racial diversity, whereas their white peers might not get those experiences until they attend grade school.”

    Maybe they went to black-themed museums.

    http://www.ns.umich.edu/new/releases/23927-can-white-kids-grow-up-to-be-black-some-preschoolers-think-so

  80. @Grandpa Jack
    A bit O/T, but I had to mention that Google is in rare form today. I think I'm going to have to start using Yahoo search. A Google doodle honoring Yuri Kochiyama. Yes, truly an honorable American. What does a search into this Great American worthy of note on the home searchpage by the biggest US search engine turn up? A loudmouthed rabble-rousing activist with all the boilerplate stereotypical ideals you'd expect from a 60s far-left liberal. But while most of the rest of the people from that era grew up, she continued on with it through to the present day. She praised Osama bin Laden for the attacks on 9/11, and even went on record thanking Islam for Osama. She supported a number of other violent attacks on the US and Europe. In a sane world, Google would put out a doodle honoring the day she pushed up the daisies, instead of her birthday.

    You can avoid American-themed doodles by switching countries. Try Google Singapore.

  81. @Captain Tau
    Orwell references have become somewhat ubiquitous in mocking P.C. culture, but the term "doublethink" really very accurately captures leftist racial thought. For example, Ta-Nehisi Coates often emphasizes in Between the World and Me that whiteness is artificial/inorganic/false consciousness, while simultaneously emphasizing the genuine/organic/real nature of black racial identity. We are told that Race Does Not Exist, and also told that we have to represent ourselves on college applications as a very specific supposedly non-existent race. We are told that you can identify as whatever gender (57 options thereof being available on Facebook) you choose, and a person's gender identity is a discretionary choice not a biological reality; but if you dare to identify as any race you choose, you'll be targeted for the next Two Minutes Hate.

    As more and more categories of White Male Cisgender oppression are uncovered by social justice detectives, it will become harder and harder to keep all this straight.

    And you’ve given into them by actually using “cisgender.” Please, stop that. Now and forever more, cease using the jabberwocky they’ve shoved into your mouth.

  82. @Pat Casey
    Makes me recall what I've always remembered about my first black friend. Sometimes he would say when I grow up I'm gonna be Penny Hardaway. That was third grade, nine years old. He wasn't aware that he was being just precious, which I myself understood about him, and liked him that way. So he sincerely still lived within that realm of fantasy land at age nine. And if you really absorb the lesson of that, you will understand why black criminals generally love being criminals. Life imitates Art so much in them, there with Denzel the american gangster. And the kids name was Dante.

    Anyways, I suppose Chesterton must be lost on some in a certain way: “Fairy tales are more than true – not because they tell us dragons exist, but because they tell us dragons can be defeated.”

    A white radio host said he believed in Santa Claus until age 11. But yes, I see more of this fantasy thinking in black boys. In separate incidents a black 12 and 13 year-old killed a 5 and 6 year-old girl in wrestling moves. A black 18 year-old got on a hoverboard with a loaded gun and accidently shot and killed his cousin.

    In Ohio, the black man walking around Walmart with a rifle he grabbed off the shelf and yakking into a cell phone. Tamir Rice in a fantasy world with a toy gun.

    Life imitates Art so much in them, there with Denzel the american gangster. And the kids name was Dante.

    Blacks don’t consider those names similar. They like “D” names that require a little more force to pronounce than say David. Denzel, Dante, Dmitri, D’Shawn, Damon.

  83. @jill
    And did you know that blacks fear trees?

    Mickey Fearn, the National Park Service Deputy Director for Communications and Community Assistance, claims that "black people don’t visit national parks because they associate them with slaves being lynched by their masters."
    "Alcee Hastings, an impeached judge, and a coalition of minority groups is demanding increased “inclusiveness” at national parks. High on their list is the claim that, “African-Americans have felt unwelcome and even fearful in federal parklands during our nation’s history because of the horrors of lynching.”

    http://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/262727/racist-trees-our-national-parks-daniel-greenfield

    Mickey Fearn, the National Park Service Deputy Director for Communications and Community Assistance, claims that “black people don’t visit national parks because they associate them with slaves being lynched by their masters.”

    Sure — masters lynched their slaves much like today’s farmers routinely blow up their tractors, set fire to their crops, and otherwise destroy their valuable property.

  84. when I was that age I wondered if boys could marry boys. girls were icky, me being one, so clearly they would prefer each other.

    • Replies: @Dissident
    http://americansfortruth.com/2016/04/29/brainwashed-kelly-ripas-son-was-so-over-exposed-to-homosexuals-getting-married-that-he-thought-normal-heterosexual-marriage-might-be-illegal-she-tells-glaad/

    BRAINWASHED: Kelly Ripa’s Son Was So Over-Exposed to Homosexuals Getting ‘Married’ that He Thought Normal, Heterosexual Marriage Might Be Illegal — She Tells GLAAD
     
  85. @Andrewski
    This was an episode of the Partridge family.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=64Vs0ZeB9yo

    That’s excellent.

  86. Having been the father of five pre-schoolers over the past 30 years, I don’t find this study very insightful. Pre-school age kids believe in all sorts of crazy stuff. There’s not necessarily a deeper meaning to it.

    • Replies: @Hhsiii
    But then why do the white kids believe they can become black but not vice versa. Watch out, because I guarantee you it'll be said it's because white kids are raised to believe anything is possible with their belief that they are white even now, whereas the black kids have horribly circumscribed lives where they can't ever believe they are white, Anatole Broyard be damned.
  87. @27 year old
    Alternative explanation: half of white kids are smart enough to think abstractly about emotion, while zero black kids are.

    Mrs. 25 year old had an even better explanation: all black parents have had "the talk" with their black 6 year olds, and explained race to them. While many white parents haven't explained it yet to their white 6 year olds.

    Mrs. 25 year old had an even better explanation: all black parents have had “the talk” with their black 6 year olds, and explained race to them. While many white parents haven’t explained it yet to their white 6 year olds.

    That’s how I interpreted it, too. White parents are acutely aware of the type of awkward conversations that will be had with the pre-K teachers if Junior starts prattling on about how he’s white in class. Black parents don’t have that concern.

    • Replies: @Dissident
    For those who may have missed it, here is the link to John Derbyshire's classic
    The Talk: Nonblack Version

    See also:
    The Defenestration of Derb
  88. Well, it worked for Shaun King.

  89. @Harry Baldwin
    As you point out, there would not be much point in a master lynching his slave.

    There were cases of free blacks being lynched after committing some horrendous crime. For example, Charles Dickens wrote about Francis McIntosh, a mulatto, who was burned alive after he stabbed two policemen to death in St. Louis, MO, in 1836.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burning_of_Francis_McIntosh

    Lynching was mostly associated with the Reconstruction period and beyond, AFAIK.

    In the South, the Irish were so associated with servile labour that they were consistently used as substitutes for slaves in more dangerous tasks like draining plantations, building levees and digging ditches and canals in malaria-infested land. Compared to the valuable investment of a slave, an Irish labourer was cheap and expendable.

    The American Irish: A History by Kevin Kenny

    • Replies: @Dissident
    Ironic then, isn't it, that a disproportionately high number of ethnomasochists and SJWs are Irish or of Irish descent? (A fact I've heard mentioned by Kevin Michael Grace*, himself of Irish Catholic heritage, as well as John Derbyshire)

    *http://2kevins.com/

  90. Well, the children were recruited in the Midwest. Maybe they’re just born cucks.

  91. But white 5- to 6-year-olds showed a different pattern. They selected the same-emotion and same-race matches at equal rates, which meant they were not committed to the belief that race was stable.

    That’s one hypothesis.

    Another would be that those who chose the same-emotion match have learned that adults are uncomfortable with race/racism and so avoided anything that could get them accused of noticing.

  92. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @reiner Tor
    Assuming he's a real person and his claims of having converted to and practicing Orthodox Judaism are true, he had to undergo a very painful and humiliating surgery in adulthood to become a Jew, and many commentators here questioned his Judaism. For example I think one of the half-Jewish commentators (who admittedly is a member of a Christian denomination) micro-aggressed by telling him that he wasn't a Jew. I remember in Hungary some Hungarian gentiles questioning the Hungarian-ness of Jews, and the uproar that followed. I'm sure micro-aggressions against Luke Ford would be just as ferociously denounced, were they known to the public. Or not.

    He’s a real person, and you can read about him on Wikipedia. As you can see in the Wiki article, he is an unusual person and it seems highly plausible that he converted for unusual, not religious reasons. Which is why most of his activity seems to involve talking favorably about Kevin MacDonald and other far-right commentators on Jews.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luke_ford

    Luke Carey Ford[1] (born 28 May 1966) is an Australian/American writer, blogger, and former pornography gossip columnist.[2]

    After leaving the Seventh-day Adventist Church, Ford explored atheism. Ford states that he was converted through the Los Angeles Beis Din.[3] Ford says he observes the Jewish Sabbath, attends synagogue regularly, and keeps kosher. He has been asked to leave at least two different congregations.[4] Ford wrote about his religious ostracism in XXX-Communicated: A Rebel Without a Shul.

    In 1995, he became intrigued with the lack of journalistic coverage of the pornography industry, and started to write a book, which would become A History of X.

    In January 1996, after researching porn for a year, Ford wrote, produced, directed and acted in What Women Want, a pornographic video. It was not a success. Ford is credited as “Dick Dundee”.[5]

    In 1997, Ford started his pornography gossip website, LukeFord.com. He said, “I’m not a businessman. I’m not a conventional journalist. I’m a story teller/entertainer/lunatic.”[6]

    Ford was sued for defamation multiple times by people in the porn industry, including by RJB Telecom, whom he (as well as the Federal Trade Commission) accused of dishonesty; Christi Lake, whom he mislabeled in a bestiality photo; and Laurie Holmes (widow of John Holmes), for accusations of prostitution on the set. Ford has said that he has been sued five times to date: one suit was dropped, another was thrown out, another was settled when his insurance company paid $100,000, and the last two were settled when he removed some of his statements without making a retraction.[7] Wired called him “The Most Hated Man in Web Porn”.[6] He was physically assaulted by Mike Albo, an editor for Hustler.[8]

    In August 2001, after urgings of his rabbi, Ford sold his main website, lukeford.com to Netvideogirls.com for $25,000, and created lukeford.net which avoided pornography, and focused more on Jewish issues. One year later, after nearly going broke, he returned to his pornographic roots by starting lukeisback.com with many of his old archives.[9] On 23 October 2007, Ford announced he had sold lukeisback.com and its contents for an undisclosed sum to an undisclosed party.[10] “Any writing I do on the porn industry from now on will be for publications with no porn advertising,” Ford said. Those owners (whose names have not been divulged) ran the site until June 2008 but walked away from the site saying that writing the site was too much work for the money earned.[11] It was sold a second time, with the new owner being long-time industry observer Cindy Loftus.[12]

    AVN Hall of Famer Bill Margold has said that “Luke Ford is exactly what we deserve… Luke’s not really a blogger as much as is an internet journalist”.[9] Ford was also in the 2010 documentary After Porn Ends, which is about life after being a porn actor.

    • Replies: @reiner Tor
    Thanks.

    I think Luke Ford is a good illustration for Jews to how a lot of supposedly anti-Semitic gentiles feel about a number of Jews.

    A case in point is Béla Kun, leader of the short-lived Hungarian Bolshevik regime in 1919. His parents were converts to Protestantism, but with quite secular outlook. (The English Wikipedia claims his father was Jewish but his mother a Protestant. That's incorrect, both were converts.) Both obviously converted for the benefits that came with it. (What benefits does Luke Ford get?) Kun dropped out of law school at age 20 and immediately started far-left journalism, eventually joining the Bolshevik party as a POW in Russia, where he was part of Lenin's far-left opposition.

    The only things Hungarian about him were that he was a Hungarian citizen (which was easy to get for anybody who just moved there from other parts of the Austro-Hungarian empire, like his parents did), he could speak Hungarian (easy to pick up in Hungary), and he liked the poetry of the Hungarian national poet and 19th century revolutionary Petőfi.

    But his position was that all nation-states (including Hungary) had to be abolished, it didn't matter what Hungary's borders were as long as there was communism in Hungary (and preferably in the neighboring countries and the whole world, too), and his regime abolished things like the Hungarian national flag.

    So he became a "Hungarian" without actually liking Hungarians (though he liked some parts of Hungarian culture). He obviously wasn't Hungarian by descent or feeling, except language and citizenship.

    Yet there's always an outrage when someone says he wasn't really Hungarian. We Hungarians have to own up to his deeds as our own.

    And to be honest, even in less extreme examples Jews aren't that big on Hungarian national feeling. Why is there outrage when it's questioned whether they are/were Hungarians?
  93. @SFG
    There'd be a Google, they'd just stick to famous scientists rather than random activists.

    Random activists on Google is more or less the Gell-Mann effect in reverse.

  94. I’ve liked ants since I was a young lad. My parents always called me weird and that I spent too much time with ants. Well, jokes on them because the ants told me my parents were weird, and I much appreciated their opinions than my parents. Ugh, their such ant phobes!!

    I was crawling on the ground like an ant one day, because I was soo000 dysphoric. I remember this one time I was an ant for Halloween, it was great. I got to be how I really am for one day, and noone said anything because everyone else was dressed up.

    I slipped up though. I blurted out to my parents that I want to be an ant. I got yelled at, they were being ant phobes and it was Triggering my emotions and I could not control it. I got angry and my emotions were triggered so I started yelling about them killing my ant brothers. How, why!!? Why could you be so cruel to my people! They din du nuffin!!

    They’ll see how it truly is one day, they’ll find out that they were stuck in the wrong body, and the dysphoria will be too much for them Hahaha. That’s what ant phobes get.

    This is how ridiculous transgenderism and transracialism is. I can be anything I want!!!

  95. @SFG
    There'd be a Google, they'd just stick to famous scientists rather than random activists.

    “There’d be a Google, they’d just stick to famous scientists rather than random activists.”

    But then it wouldn’t be Google, would it? By now, Google is as well-known for its snarky, anti-white male celebrations and doodles as it is for its search functions.

    And Google’s chosen activists aren’t random.

    • Replies: @Spotted Toad
    I don't think it's impossible that the Google Doodle is all just, as the biologists say, protective coloration. The company knows perfectly well that the abilities it needs among employees aren't evenly distributed across populations, but supporting Black Girls Code and putting Maoist not-quite-revolutionaries on its Doodle are public obeisance to the dominant ideology to stop interference with the things it really cares about- hiring the smartest dozen programmers to come out of Stanford each year, or whatever really makes a difference.
    , @Brutusale
    Google has to do the silly SJW doodle crap to deflect from the fact that Google is 98.7% white guys.
  96. @Anonymous
    I thought it was well established that young kids believe that they can grow up to be animals.

    I have been wondering for some time already whether we might yet see “trans-species-ism” emerge as the assault du jour on sanity, decency and objective reality. Is it only a matter of time?

  97. OT Alert: Anyone who is tired of reading about white kids who want to grow up to be Negroes should read about how Haven Monahan’s email account was accessed recently, either by Jackie or her lawyers.

    Just search on “UVA Erdely Jackie” — it’s all over. Not that anyone here will be surprised.

  98. @Kylie
    "There’d be a Google, they’d just stick to famous scientists rather than random activists."

    But then it wouldn't be Google, would it? By now, Google is as well-known for its snarky, anti-white male celebrations and doodles as it is for its search functions.

    And Google's chosen activists aren't random.

    I don’t think it’s impossible that the Google Doodle is all just, as the biologists say, protective coloration. The company knows perfectly well that the abilities it needs among employees aren’t evenly distributed across populations, but supporting Black Girls Code and putting Maoist not-quite-revolutionaries on its Doodle are public obeisance to the dominant ideology to stop interference with the things it really cares about- hiring the smartest dozen programmers to come out of Stanford each year, or whatever really makes a difference.

    • Replies: @The Last Real Calvinist
    Google is simply making burnt offerings to placate the capricious fury of their gods.
  99. @Reg Cæsar

    No. In a sane world, she would have been stripped of her citizenship and deported to Japan.
     
    Short of a threat of a trade embargo, or a third A-bomb, why would Japan even take her? She was born in San Pedro.

    I can certainly understand being driven crazy by FDR's tyranny, but most Japanese-Californians registered Republican, not Maoist. And then Islam... no comment.

    However, she was 100% right about one thing-- Puerto Rico should have been cut loose. A long time ago.

    “Short of a threat of a trade embargo, or a third A-bomb, why would Japan even take her? She was born in San Pedro.”

    I understood she was of Japanese ancestry. If Japan wouldn’t have taken her, she could have been deported to whatever country would. But as far as I’m concerned, in a sane world, her remarks definitely qualify as “aid and comfort to the enemy” and therefore she should have been treated accordingly.

  100. @unpc downunder
    Young white kids see a lot of black girls grow up to look like mullato women with straight brown and blond hair, so it isn't that crazy for them to think race can change over time. In contrast, black kids probably realise that their mothers go to considerable cosmetic lengths to look more white.

    “Young white kids see a lot of black girls grow up to look like mullato women with straight brown and blond hair, so it isn’t that crazy for them to think race can change over time.”

    Do most Whites in Australia see Blacks and Mulattos as being different races from each other?

  101. My nephew, when he was younger, genuinely believed that he could grow up to be a garbage truck. He got upset when you told him otherwise.

  102. OT, but Jesse Hughes is not backing down. His comments about the possibility that the Bataclan massacre had inside help are getting a reaction. Incidentally, they are also getting Taki’s mag mentioned in the utterly establishment BBC News online.

    http://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-36340715

    • Replies: @Richard of Melbourne
    Yes, fascinating to see Takimag quoted by that venerable old whore of the Left, the BBC.

    Talking of leftist establishment media, the Takimag interview is also a leading story at Le Monde, ranked about No 3 after the Egyptair tragedy: http://www.lemonde.fr/
  103. Apparently, according to five year olds, people are more likely to change their race than their attitude. I agree.

  104. @Pat Casey
    Makes me recall what I've always remembered about my first black friend. Sometimes he would say when I grow up I'm gonna be Penny Hardaway. That was third grade, nine years old. He wasn't aware that he was being just precious, which I myself understood about him, and liked him that way. So he sincerely still lived within that realm of fantasy land at age nine. And if you really absorb the lesson of that, you will understand why black criminals generally love being criminals. Life imitates Art so much in them, there with Denzel the american gangster. And the kids name was Dante.

    Anyways, I suppose Chesterton must be lost on some in a certain way: “Fairy tales are more than true – not because they tell us dragons exist, but because they tell us dragons can be defeated.”

    Aparently Dante is a popular name among African-americans (and derivations such as Dantevious). I wonder why? Were their parents scholars who read the Divine Comedy? Or maybe there is some other American reference that escapes me.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    First names that begin with D are kind of a black pride thing these days, kind of like certain first names that begin with J are a Jewish pride thing lately (e.g., Joshua). "Dante" is a good choice for black parents who want to signal black pride to other blacks via a D name without sounding ghetto (Dantevious, however ...). The cultural connotations of "Dante" are as classy as possible.
    , @Buffalo Joe
    Dumbo, Bit of a reach with the "Divine Comedy" tie in, but I've noticed that African Americans like to embellish first names by adding a "te" at the end or a "De" at the beginning...not to mention all the names with hyphens and apostrophes. Examples include Shawnte and Deshawn, which can also be D'Shawn . My daughter works with a lot of Cleveland inner city kids, and we have a "Name of the Week." contest. Best of all time La-Sha.....pronounced La Dash sha.
  105. [To Moderator: This was meant as an edit of #42 above but something went wrong. Kindly discard that in favor of this. Thanks.]

    I have been wondering for some time already whether we might yet see “trans-species-ism” emerge as the assualt du jour on sanity, decency and objective reality. Is it only a matter of time?

    Imagine the linguistic challenges alone. Many uses of “humanity”, such as “our common humanity”, would become microagressions. As would, of course, any pejorative use of “beast”, “beastly” or “bestial”. A whole class of new words would have to be invented and added to the vocabulary (“cis-species”, etc.)

    Concerning bestiality— i.e. carnal intimacy between humans and animals– if the traditional taboos surrounding it had not been abolished by then, they could be circumvented simply by declaring oneself an animal trapped in the body of a human. And, of course, once that would be accepted, it would be difficult to make a logical argument against allowing a man to marry his (actually) canine (or feline, bovine, porcine, etc.) soul mate.

  106. @boogerbently
    See Fred Reeds latest article on fredoneverything.
    About a transphylum woman.

    Thanks, booger, but I think I’ll give that a miss. Erm, a ms? A maize?

    I have had flying dreams my entire life and in my younger years wondered why. Always thought that if I could go back to the Pre-Void and order up a body, it would be a wandering albatross.

    But never once did I mistake that for actually being a sea bird stuck in a primate body.

    In my 20s, hanging out with evolutionary biologists (I couldn’t afford to pursue that myself) in grad school and later following the field as an avocation, I concluded that the “flying dreams” were probably actually “swimming dreams” out of some part of the wetware derived from Our Inner Fish. Or earlier even. The “flying” sensation in these dreams has none of the body-density one feels when, say, hang gliding, or that all birds struggle with in take-off, landing, and maneuvering. Thus it makes more sense that it’s sea-based.

    Though I did know a woo lady who was certain the flying dreams were evidence that I had Special Spiritual Powers that set me apart from other humans…and would qualify me as her wallet forever. But I digress.

    The point is, we’re all at root transphylum, trans species, etc. And even that’s not the point. The point is, everything that has happened since we branched off and evolved, and what we became, and what we may become from here.

    Nostalgic reaching back in biological time is erasing life on earth. But try telling SJWs that. Their “identity fluidity” ladies are so ignorant of even 19th century biology, it aches.

    • Replies: @Hippopotamusdrome


    “swimming dreams” out of some part of the wetware derived from Our Inner Fish. Or earlier even.

     

    A distant genetic memory from before the sun became a red giant and all the earth's liquid water evaporated and there were still oceans, lakes and rivers and earth creatures would occasionally immerse themselves in these pools of water.
    , @boogerbently
    "But never once did I mistake that for actually being a sea bird stuck in a primate body."

    To quote (paraphrase) Master Po on "Kung Fu":

    Or are you now a sea bird dreaming you are a primate.
  107. @Anonymous
    I thought it was well established that young kids believe that they can grow up to be animals.

    [Mod: I would appreciate it if you could remove both of my previous comments, #42 and #45, as this is meant to replace them. I thank you and apologize for the bother.]

    I have been wondering for some time already whether we might yet see “trans-species-ism” emerge at some point as the latest assault on sanity, decency and objective reality. Is it only a matter of time?

    Imagine the linguistic challenges alone. Many uses of “humanity”, such as “our common humanity”, would become microagressions. As would, of course, any pejorative use of “beast”, “beastly” or “bestial”. A whole class of new words would have to be invented and added to the vocabulary (“cis-species”…)

    Concerning bestiality (i.e. carnal intimacy between humans and animals) if the traditional taboos surrounding it had not been abolished by then, circumventing them could be as simple as declaring oneself to be a (non-human) animal trapped in a human body. And, of course, once that would be accepted, it is difficult to imagine there being much logical argument left against allowing a man to marry his (actually) canine (or feline, bovine, porcine…) soul mate.

    “Check your cis-species privilege, you trans-speci-phobic, specist, trans-specist scum!”

  108. @Dumbo
    Aparently Dante is a popular name among African-americans (and derivations such as Dantevious). I wonder why? Were their parents scholars who read the Divine Comedy? Or maybe there is some other American reference that escapes me.

    First names that begin with D are kind of a black pride thing these days, kind of like certain first names that begin with J are a Jewish pride thing lately (e.g., Joshua). “Dante” is a good choice for black parents who want to signal black pride to other blacks via a D name without sounding ghetto (Dantevious, however …). The cultural connotations of “Dante” are as classy as possible.

    • Replies: @Kathy Shaidle
    Alas, this presumes most blacks (and even whites) know who “Dante” was… Hell, my (white) Grade 10 history teacher said he wrote The Canterbury Tales and I had to correct her...
  109. @Captain Tau
    Orwell references have become somewhat ubiquitous in mocking P.C. culture, but the term "doublethink" really very accurately captures leftist racial thought. For example, Ta-Nehisi Coates often emphasizes in Between the World and Me that whiteness is artificial/inorganic/false consciousness, while simultaneously emphasizing the genuine/organic/real nature of black racial identity. We are told that Race Does Not Exist, and also told that we have to represent ourselves on college applications as a very specific supposedly non-existent race. We are told that you can identify as whatever gender (57 options thereof being available on Facebook) you choose, and a person's gender identity is a discretionary choice not a biological reality; but if you dare to identify as any race you choose, you'll be targeted for the next Two Minutes Hate.

    As more and more categories of White Male Cisgender oppression are uncovered by social justice detectives, it will become harder and harder to keep all this straight.

    We are told that you can identify as whatever gender (57 options thereof being available on Facebook)

    Does anyone even offer that many flavors of ice cream?

    Maybe Ben & Jerry’s, to celebrate and promote gender diversity and trans tolerance, will introduce a special flavor of ice cream for each of the 57 gender categories.

    (B&J are notorious buggery-celebrating SJWs who, among many other things, introduced a special flavor of ice cream to celebrate same-sex “marriage”.)

  110. A white child may not grow up to become black, but as Michael Jackson proved, a black child can grow up to become a white woman.

  111. @Stan Adams
    I'm glad I'm not a preschooler in 2016.

    This fall's kindergarteners (the Class of 2029) are only now wading into the reeking cesspool of bullshit and busywork known as the miseducation system. Think of the stinking tripe they'll be swallowing over the next 13 years.

    God help them.

    Are there even any private schools left that don’t indoctrinate the students with Cultural Marxist dogma and cant? Isn’t home schooling often the only real option left?

  112. @frizzled
    I would say "transracial" is much less ridiculous than in transgender, since cases where people don't fall clearly into one race are much more common than for those between the sexes. In fact, it's quite common for people to "change ethnicity".

    There's been research showing a lot of people do change their ethnic group between censuses. The typical example is a Hispanic person who starts calling themselves a white person, and that's often associated with a change in wealth. Race is a lot harder to pin down objectively than biological sex.

    Moreover, America's definition of race is itself racist and arbitrary. Obama's no blacker than he is white, and a 1/4 or 1/8 black person often still claims to be "black".

    Good points.

    (I am uncomfortable, though, with your use of the word “racism”, which I think should be avoided as much as possible. Problematic to begin with, it is has long lost any real meaning — except, of course, as a convenient means to discredit, a priori, anything that transgresses the obligatory pieties of the entrenched orthodoxy on race. Much like what Orwell said in “Politics and the English Language” about the word ‘facism’)

  113. @Grandpa Jack
    A bit O/T, but I had to mention that Google is in rare form today. I think I'm going to have to start using Yahoo search. A Google doodle honoring Yuri Kochiyama. Yes, truly an honorable American. What does a search into this Great American worthy of note on the home searchpage by the biggest US search engine turn up? A loudmouthed rabble-rousing activist with all the boilerplate stereotypical ideals you'd expect from a 60s far-left liberal. But while most of the rest of the people from that era grew up, she continued on with it through to the present day. She praised Osama bin Laden for the attacks on 9/11, and even went on record thanking Islam for Osama. She supported a number of other violent attacks on the US and Europe. In a sane world, Google would put out a doodle honoring the day she pushed up the daisies, instead of her birthday.

    Sounds like just the type of thing that John Derbyshire would bring-up on Radio Derb. I hope he does.

  114. Rachel Dolezal proved these kids right … what’s the issue?

  115. So, a study into race includes only 102 respondents and only whites and blacks. Seems like a valid study to me. Thankfully, or rather hopefully, no Federal grant money was involved.

  116. @jill
    And did you know that blacks fear trees?

    Mickey Fearn, the National Park Service Deputy Director for Communications and Community Assistance, claims that "black people don’t visit national parks because they associate them with slaves being lynched by their masters."
    "Alcee Hastings, an impeached judge, and a coalition of minority groups is demanding increased “inclusiveness” at national parks. High on their list is the claim that, “African-Americans have felt unwelcome and even fearful in federal parklands during our nation’s history because of the horrors of lynching.”

    http://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/262727/racist-trees-our-national-parks-daniel-greenfield

    Actually, Mr. Fern, (my spelling seems more appropriate for a Park’s Dept. employee), blacks are infinitely safer in Parks than in their own neighborhoods. 421 murders to date in Chicago.

  117. @Dumbo
    Aparently Dante is a popular name among African-americans (and derivations such as Dantevious). I wonder why? Were their parents scholars who read the Divine Comedy? Or maybe there is some other American reference that escapes me.

    Dumbo, Bit of a reach with the “Divine Comedy” tie in, but I’ve noticed that African Americans like to embellish first names by adding a “te” at the end or a “De” at the beginning…not to mention all the names with hyphens and apostrophes. Examples include Shawnte and Deshawn, which can also be D’Shawn . My daughter works with a lot of Cleveland inner city kids, and we have a “Name of the Week.” contest. Best of all time La-Sha…..pronounced La Dash sha.

    • Replies: @Bard of Bumperstickers
    I've taken to referring the random apostrophe in younger blacks' names as an "Afropostrophe" and I use the name "Apos'tropheesha" as a generic appellation for, uh, "them" - the ones who are problems, generally - to both blacks and whites (and East Asians, etal.) whose intentions are good. In other words, the black rednecks, as Thomas Sowell has described them.
  118. @Olorin
    Professor Susan Gelman, nu?

    Celebrating the Jewish Experience at Michigan
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aow3-MtZ86w

    Here's the question I'd ask her. Can I identify as a Jew, and not be a Jew, and hate Jews?

    Just how far does her "identity fluidity" go, anyway?

    I identify as a silicon-based lifeform. The periodic table of the elements, the much-vaunted “laws” (Sez who?) of thermodynamics, biochemistry, and other social constructs, foist upon alternative lifeforms by the human-chauvinist patriarchy, all conspire to dismiss and denigrate my existence. I have hired an attorney. We shall overcome!

  119. @Grandpa Jack
    "But white 5- to 6-year-olds showed a different pattern. They selected the same-emotion and same-race matches at equal rates, which meant they were not committed to the belief that race was stable."

    So... doesn't this mean they are less racist than minorities? And wouldn't that agree with what we know about whites vs. minorities from brain imaging studies (where people can't lie)?

    marsh, it likely means that white children have had less exposure to racism than minorities therefore they have less awareness of it and in some or many cases no awareness of it. children are not born racist it’s a learned feature. they can learn about it either from their parents or from life circumstances (like being a victim of it). children are smart and they pick up others emotions. unfortunately it’s normal that a black child in our society would have an awareness of racism before a white child because it’s more common they would be a victim of it at a young age.

  120. @Buffalo Joe
    Dumbo, Bit of a reach with the "Divine Comedy" tie in, but I've noticed that African Americans like to embellish first names by adding a "te" at the end or a "De" at the beginning...not to mention all the names with hyphens and apostrophes. Examples include Shawnte and Deshawn, which can also be D'Shawn . My daughter works with a lot of Cleveland inner city kids, and we have a "Name of the Week." contest. Best of all time La-Sha.....pronounced La Dash sha.

    I’ve taken to referring the random apostrophe in younger blacks’ names as an “Afropostrophe” and I use the name “Apos’tropheesha” as a generic appellation for, uh, “them” – the ones who are problems, generally – to both blacks and whites (and East Asians, etal.) whose intentions are good. In other words, the black rednecks, as Thomas Sowell has described them.

  121. @Tex
    OT, but Jesse Hughes is not backing down. His comments about the possibility that the Bataclan massacre had inside help are getting a reaction. Incidentally, they are also getting Taki's mag mentioned in the utterly establishment BBC News online.

    http://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-36340715

    Yes, fascinating to see Takimag quoted by that venerable old whore of the Left, the BBC.

    Talking of leftist establishment media, the Takimag interview is also a leading story at Le Monde, ranked about No 3 after the Egyptair tragedy: http://www.lemonde.fr/

  122. I wonder if anyone has done the stats on the most popular “exotic” black name for being murdered, as well for blacks who like to murder other blacks, and blacks who like to murder whites.
    It seems “Jabari” is a bit of an overachiever in homocidal matters. I just kept noticing the name when reading about murder in the news. He’s either doing it, or getting it done to him.

    https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=jabari+murder

  123. @Cloudbuster
    Having been the father of five pre-schoolers over the past 30 years, I don't find this study very insightful. Pre-school age kids believe in all sorts of crazy stuff. There's not necessarily a deeper meaning to it.

    But then why do the white kids believe they can become black but not vice versa. Watch out, because I guarantee you it’ll be said it’s because white kids are raised to believe anything is possible with their belief that they are white even now, whereas the black kids have horribly circumscribed lives where they can’t ever believe they are white, Anatole Broyard be damned.

  124. @Rapparee
    I once saw a book which printed the responses of a class of preschoolers to the question "What do you want to be when you grow up?" In addition to the expected "fireman", "astronaut", "lawyer", etc., there were responses like "dinosaur", "Indian", and "dump truck".

    If memory serves, one of the other notions peculiar to extreme youth is that all older people have lived through basically every major period of history- when you're four, you're pretty sure that your own dear dad was on the Mayflower and fought at Gettysburg.

    At preschool graduation today one of the graduate’s response to the question “What do you want to be when you grow up?” was “I want to be a monkey.” And yes, he the descendant of northern Europeans (Scandinavians mostly, if not exclusively).

    Of course, in my case, I “was on the Mayflower and fought at Gettysburg” because I have this horrid portrait of me in the closet.

  125. @Corvinus
    "This fall’s kindergarteners (the Class of 2029) are only now wading into the reeking cesspool of bullshit and busywork known as the miseducation system. "

    It's not as bad as you think it is. Homeschool if need be and "indoctrinate" them in your own manner. I'm sure race realism will be on the curriculum docket.

    I’m sure race realism will be on the curriculum docket.

    While yours will be race surrealism.

  126. On a mere 2 anecdotes but I’m not sure that kids don’t recognise racial differences earlier than thought:-

    1) Working in China the grandson (about 3 years old), of the proprietors at my local corner store, put his forefingers beneath his eyes and pulled down the lower eyelids. The opposite of the pulling the corners wide (you know the sign that some do to signify slanted eyes) only here it made the lad’s eyes look droopy. No doubt about it, granddad/granny and myself laughed at his recognition that the store customer (me) was obviously racially different to 99.9% of people in the neighbourhood.

    2) Conversely, my niece (about 3/4) was taken by her grandparents (my sister’s in-laws) to the annual national day street party/bbq afternoon. The local Japanese/Korean/Chinese teenage girls made a great fuss of her, playing games with/entertaining her throughout the afternoon. On delivery back to her mother that evening, my sister nearly dropped her coffee cup when niece announced, “I like those yellow girls!”.

  127. @Kylie
    "There’d be a Google, they’d just stick to famous scientists rather than random activists."

    But then it wouldn't be Google, would it? By now, Google is as well-known for its snarky, anti-white male celebrations and doodles as it is for its search functions.

    And Google's chosen activists aren't random.

    Google has to do the silly SJW doodle crap to deflect from the fact that Google is 98.7% white guys.

  128. @Sisyphean
    So Steve, my teen son came to me yesterday and told me this girl he knows who is a friend of his friend told him that she wished that he and his brother (three years younger) were both LGBTQ... "Because then you'd be so much better." This angered my son and he's chosen to break off contact with this girl. But this is not an isolated incident, I've had to have talks about gender and identity with my two relatively normal male sons constantly over the past three years because of all the peer pressure among their young white friends to be some kind of queer, I guess because that's cool. I do not live in Berkeley or NY, this is small city PA. The tumlbr world is infecting the consciousness of our youth in a very real way. Now honestly I wouldn't care if my kids came out as gay and I've told them as much, But neither have any interest in either sex at this point, much like I did (I didn't bother with women until late high school early college, books were far more interesting). What concerns me is 1) the pressure is not at all be who you are but be some kind of queer and 2) I definitely don't want my sons or any other children being pressured into experiences they cannot un-do, and they aren't ready for.

    Sow the wind, reap the whirlwind. Lots of needless suffering coming for the innocents that ought to have been protected, and the backlash will be positively Victorian.

  129. @AndrewR
    Even a cursory skim of her biography would suggest that she never "grew up" after the sixties because she was already quite grown up. She was older than the parents of many 1960s radicals. Of course, reading her biography it becomes difficult to blame her for her hatred for the US government. Then again, she went off the deep end by becoming a Sunni, and praising Mao and bin Laden, among other insane things.

    “Of course, reading her biography it becomes difficult to blame her for her hatred for the US government.”

    Nonsense. I don’t think too fondly of the gov’t at this point either, and clearly neither do many of the other readers here, but for a sane person that doesn’t translate into glorifying the killing of thousands of innocent citizens on 9/11.

    • Replies: @AndrewR
    People don't tend to like it when you willfully ignore what they say.

    I clearly stated that her hatred of the US government did not justify all her stances. I was just stating that I would have a seething rage towards the US government too if I were her.

  130. @Olorin
    Thanks, booger, but I think I'll give that a miss. Erm, a ms? A maize?

    I have had flying dreams my entire life and in my younger years wondered why. Always thought that if I could go back to the Pre-Void and order up a body, it would be a wandering albatross.

    But never once did I mistake that for actually being a sea bird stuck in a primate body.

    In my 20s, hanging out with evolutionary biologists (I couldn't afford to pursue that myself) in grad school and later following the field as an avocation, I concluded that the "flying dreams" were probably actually "swimming dreams" out of some part of the wetware derived from Our Inner Fish. Or earlier even. The "flying" sensation in these dreams has none of the body-density one feels when, say, hang gliding, or that all birds struggle with in take-off, landing, and maneuvering. Thus it makes more sense that it's sea-based.

    Though I did know a woo lady who was certain the flying dreams were evidence that I had Special Spiritual Powers that set me apart from other humans...and would qualify me as her wallet forever. But I digress.

    The point is, we're all at root transphylum, trans species, etc. And even that's not the point. The point is, everything that has happened since we branched off and evolved, and what we became, and what we may become from here.

    Nostalgic reaching back in biological time is erasing life on earth. But try telling SJWs that. Their "identity fluidity" ladies are so ignorant of even 19th century biology, it aches.

    “swimming dreams” out of some part of the wetware derived from Our Inner Fish. Or earlier even.

    A distant genetic memory from before the sun became a red giant and all the earth’s liquid water evaporated and there were still oceans, lakes and rivers and earth creatures would occasionally immerse themselves in these pools of water.

  131. @Spotted Toad
    I don't think it's impossible that the Google Doodle is all just, as the biologists say, protective coloration. The company knows perfectly well that the abilities it needs among employees aren't evenly distributed across populations, but supporting Black Girls Code and putting Maoist not-quite-revolutionaries on its Doodle are public obeisance to the dominant ideology to stop interference with the things it really cares about- hiring the smartest dozen programmers to come out of Stanford each year, or whatever really makes a difference.

    Google is simply making burnt offerings to placate the capricious fury of their gods.

  132. @Wyrd
    This.

    Slaves in Southern states back in the 19th century cost the current equivalent of a decent car. Owners beating, starving, working, or whipping any one of them to death would be the equivalent of running a car straight into a wall for the hell of it. Perhaps the extremely rich made doing so a sport, but from a pure economic point of view, it would be disastrously expensive. Better to treat slaves relatively decently for gain; hence the laws guaranteeing them healthcare and old-age support at Old Master's expense that Southern states had.

    Presumably, you mean the specific case of a white owner of a black slave, and not black/black, arab/black, arab/white, mesoamerican/mesoamerican etc.

  133. @Steve Sailer
    First names that begin with D are kind of a black pride thing these days, kind of like certain first names that begin with J are a Jewish pride thing lately (e.g., Joshua). "Dante" is a good choice for black parents who want to signal black pride to other blacks via a D name without sounding ghetto (Dantevious, however ...). The cultural connotations of "Dante" are as classy as possible.

    Alas, this presumes most blacks (and even whites) know who “Dante” was… Hell, my (white) Grade 10 history teacher said he wrote The Canterbury Tales and I had to correct her…

  134. This is a sign something is wrong alright, but not in the way the MSM reporters think. When white liberal parents these days teach their kids the “proper” way to think about race, they tell them that race is merely a social construct. Hence, all the confused white preschoolers. If race were merely an illusion, white kids could become black adults because all it would require is perhaps a different self attitude and maybe outwardly, a different set of clothes, similar to the way that we’re supposed to believe gender is just a way of thinking. I’ve met even college students who seem to earnestly believe race is merely an illusion yet at the same time is a useful way of [giving minorities free sh*t] thinking critically about oppression.

    The left has really painted itself into a logic corner on all of the hypocrisy about thinking of race vs. gender. Not that having blatantly irrational ideas will stop them, of course.

    • Replies: @Buffalo Joe
    Golf Pro, These are preschoolers, I hardly think that they can comprehend the meaning of " social construct."
  135. A Jew fronting a black in order to undermine traditional order – what will they think of next!

  136. @Grandpa Jack
    "Of course, reading her biography it becomes difficult to blame her for her hatred for the US government."

    Nonsense. I don't think too fondly of the gov't at this point either, and clearly neither do many of the other readers here, but for a sane person that doesn't translate into glorifying the killing of thousands of innocent citizens on 9/11.

    People don’t tend to like it when you willfully ignore what they say.

    I clearly stated that her hatred of the US government did not justify all her stances. I was just stating that I would have a seething rage towards the US government too if I were her.

  137. @Olorin
    Thanks, booger, but I think I'll give that a miss. Erm, a ms? A maize?

    I have had flying dreams my entire life and in my younger years wondered why. Always thought that if I could go back to the Pre-Void and order up a body, it would be a wandering albatross.

    But never once did I mistake that for actually being a sea bird stuck in a primate body.

    In my 20s, hanging out with evolutionary biologists (I couldn't afford to pursue that myself) in grad school and later following the field as an avocation, I concluded that the "flying dreams" were probably actually "swimming dreams" out of some part of the wetware derived from Our Inner Fish. Or earlier even. The "flying" sensation in these dreams has none of the body-density one feels when, say, hang gliding, or that all birds struggle with in take-off, landing, and maneuvering. Thus it makes more sense that it's sea-based.

    Though I did know a woo lady who was certain the flying dreams were evidence that I had Special Spiritual Powers that set me apart from other humans...and would qualify me as her wallet forever. But I digress.

    The point is, we're all at root transphylum, trans species, etc. And even that's not the point. The point is, everything that has happened since we branched off and evolved, and what we became, and what we may become from here.

    Nostalgic reaching back in biological time is erasing life on earth. But try telling SJWs that. Their "identity fluidity" ladies are so ignorant of even 19th century biology, it aches.

    “But never once did I mistake that for actually being a sea bird stuck in a primate body.”

    To quote (paraphrase) Master Po on “Kung Fu”:

    Or are you now a sea bird dreaming you are a primate.

  138. @Anonymous
    He's a real person, and you can read about him on Wikipedia. As you can see in the Wiki article, he is an unusual person and it seems highly plausible that he converted for unusual, not religious reasons. Which is why most of his activity seems to involve talking favorably about Kevin MacDonald and other far-right commentators on Jews.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luke_ford

    Luke Carey Ford[1] (born 28 May 1966) is an Australian/American writer, blogger, and former pornography gossip columnist.[2]



    After leaving the Seventh-day Adventist Church, Ford explored atheism. Ford states that he was converted through the Los Angeles Beis Din.[3] Ford says he observes the Jewish Sabbath, attends synagogue regularly, and keeps kosher. He has been asked to leave at least two different congregations.[4] Ford wrote about his religious ostracism in XXX-Communicated: A Rebel Without a Shul.



    In 1995, he became intrigued with the lack of journalistic coverage of the pornography industry, and started to write a book, which would become A History of X.

    In January 1996, after researching porn for a year, Ford wrote, produced, directed and acted in What Women Want, a pornographic video. It was not a success. Ford is credited as “Dick Dundee”.[5]

    In 1997, Ford started his pornography gossip website, LukeFord.com. He said, “I’m not a businessman. I’m not a conventional journalist. I’m a story teller/entertainer/lunatic.”[6]

    Ford was sued for defamation multiple times by people in the porn industry, including by RJB Telecom, whom he (as well as the Federal Trade Commission) accused of dishonesty; Christi Lake, whom he mislabeled in a bestiality photo; and Laurie Holmes (widow of John Holmes), for accusations of prostitution on the set. Ford has said that he has been sued five times to date: one suit was dropped, another was thrown out, another was settled when his insurance company paid $100,000, and the last two were settled when he removed some of his statements without making a retraction.[7] Wired called him “The Most Hated Man in Web Porn”.[6] He was physically assaulted by Mike Albo, an editor for Hustler.[8]

    In August 2001, after urgings of his rabbi, Ford sold his main website, lukeford.com to Netvideogirls.com for $25,000, and created lukeford.net which avoided pornography, and focused more on Jewish issues. One year later, after nearly going broke, he returned to his pornographic roots by starting lukeisback.com with many of his old archives.[9] On 23 October 2007, Ford announced he had sold lukeisback.com and its contents for an undisclosed sum to an undisclosed party.[10] “Any writing I do on the porn industry from now on will be for publications with no porn advertising,” Ford said. Those owners (whose names have not been divulged) ran the site until June 2008 but walked away from the site saying that writing the site was too much work for the money earned.[11] It was sold a second time, with the new owner being long-time industry observer Cindy Loftus.[12]

    AVN Hall of Famer Bill Margold has said that “Luke Ford is exactly what we deserve… Luke’s not really a blogger as much as is an internet journalist”.[9] Ford was also in the 2010 documentary After Porn Ends, which is about life after being a porn actor.
     

    Thanks.

    I think Luke Ford is a good illustration for Jews to how a lot of supposedly anti-Semitic gentiles feel about a number of Jews.

    A case in point is Béla Kun, leader of the short-lived Hungarian Bolshevik regime in 1919. His parents were converts to Protestantism, but with quite secular outlook. (The English Wikipedia claims his father was Jewish but his mother a Protestant. That’s incorrect, both were converts.) Both obviously converted for the benefits that came with it. (What benefits does Luke Ford get?) Kun dropped out of law school at age 20 and immediately started far-left journalism, eventually joining the Bolshevik party as a POW in Russia, where he was part of Lenin’s far-left opposition.

    The only things Hungarian about him were that he was a Hungarian citizen (which was easy to get for anybody who just moved there from other parts of the Austro-Hungarian empire, like his parents did), he could speak Hungarian (easy to pick up in Hungary), and he liked the poetry of the Hungarian national poet and 19th century revolutionary Petőfi.

    But his position was that all nation-states (including Hungary) had to be abolished, it didn’t matter what Hungary’s borders were as long as there was communism in Hungary (and preferably in the neighboring countries and the whole world, too), and his regime abolished things like the Hungarian national flag.

    So he became a “Hungarian” without actually liking Hungarians (though he liked some parts of Hungarian culture). He obviously wasn’t Hungarian by descent or feeling, except language and citizenship.

    Yet there’s always an outrage when someone says he wasn’t really Hungarian. We Hungarians have to own up to his deeds as our own.

    And to be honest, even in less extreme examples Jews aren’t that big on Hungarian national feeling. Why is there outrage when it’s questioned whether they are/were Hungarians?

    • Replies: @Jack D

    And to be honest, even in less extreme examples Jews aren’t that big on Hungarian national feeling.
     
    Yes, exactly. That's why Hungarian Jews gave their kids names like Attila and Karoly.

    Google Attila Petschauer and Karoly Karpati.

  139. We had our fill of public schools with racial and sexual-based political correctness with our two sons … now grown. To avoid this, we’ve put our 5-year old grandson in a premium pre-K that costs $13,700/year. It is an excellent private school sans political correctness … it’s reading, writing, and arithmetic. I call it the “Harvard of pre-schools”. The teachers are adults and certified career teachers with an 8:1 student/teacher ratio.

    Next year, he will go to a private kindergarten in the same school that costs $20,800/year. But our grandson can already add numbers, knows the alphabet, can spell, and has a moderate handle on Spanish (yes, they teach Spanish in pre-K). I guarantee that the private school will not tolerate any transgendered nonsense.

    I just got my tax bill from the county: $4,966/year. 69% of this goes to the local school system = $3,427. So, my total education costs will be $24,227/year. A little math and I’m paying an 83% premium to shield our grandson from the social pandemics in the public school system with the potential to ruin his life. Is it worth it … without a doubt considering the alternative.

    As iSteve often notes, we’re resegregating our society based on income … or, the willingness to spend that income to escape the local school systems. I’m part of that movement. My heart goes out to those who cannot afford to escape the “freak show” in public education. At times I believe that God gave me a comfortable income so that we could afford to escape.

    • Replies: @Romanian
    Aren't you actually paying a 606% premium? You are paying 7 times more than what you would have paid had you kept him in public school.
    , @Reg Cæsar
    Why not just keep him home until age eight, saving four years' tuition fees (not "tuition", please)?

    Raymond and Dorothy Moore would encourage this decades ago. They didn't think children were ready until that age.
  140. @Grandpa Jack
    This is a sign something is wrong alright, but not in the way the MSM reporters think. When white liberal parents these days teach their kids the "proper" way to think about race, they tell them that race is merely a social construct. Hence, all the confused white preschoolers. If race were merely an illusion, white kids could become black adults because all it would require is perhaps a different self attitude and maybe outwardly, a different set of clothes, similar to the way that we're supposed to believe gender is just a way of thinking. I've met even college students who seem to earnestly believe race is merely an illusion yet at the same time is a useful way of [giving minorities free sh*t] thinking critically about oppression.

    The left has really painted itself into a logic corner on all of the hypocrisy about thinking of race vs. gender. Not that having blatantly irrational ideas will stop them, of course.

    Golf Pro, These are preschoolers, I hardly think that they can comprehend the meaning of ” social construct.”

    • Replies: @Grandpa Jack
    You'd be surprised what they can understand when their parents or teachers (mis-)explain it to them in a way they can understand.

    "... and then, and then mama, that brown boy Tyrell.."
    "You mean African-American boy, Susie"
    "Afra.. "
    "African..
    "Afikan"
    "...American"
    "American"
    "Yes Susie, that's right. What makes him an African-American, Susie?"
    (Shrugs)
    "Does he look different?"
    "He's brown!"
    "Well, yes, Susie, he's brown, but you know what?"
    "What?"
    "He's actually no different at all from you or me. Some African-Americans are not even brown, and some white people are brown, Susie."
    "You mean he is the same as me?"
    "Yes, Susie. Some African-American people have white parents or grandparents, and some white people have African-American parents or grandparents. We only think of him as brown and us as white, because of the bad white people known as Republicans and Southerners. They are actually no different at all from you and me."
    "The South people are bad people?"
    "Yes Susie, they even like Donald Trump, who wants to beat up all the brown people and send them to another country even though they are the good guys."

    No suprise that little Susie goes into her class the next day and thinks that white kids can be black adults.

  141. @reiner Tor
    Thanks.

    I think Luke Ford is a good illustration for Jews to how a lot of supposedly anti-Semitic gentiles feel about a number of Jews.

    A case in point is Béla Kun, leader of the short-lived Hungarian Bolshevik regime in 1919. His parents were converts to Protestantism, but with quite secular outlook. (The English Wikipedia claims his father was Jewish but his mother a Protestant. That's incorrect, both were converts.) Both obviously converted for the benefits that came with it. (What benefits does Luke Ford get?) Kun dropped out of law school at age 20 and immediately started far-left journalism, eventually joining the Bolshevik party as a POW in Russia, where he was part of Lenin's far-left opposition.

    The only things Hungarian about him were that he was a Hungarian citizen (which was easy to get for anybody who just moved there from other parts of the Austro-Hungarian empire, like his parents did), he could speak Hungarian (easy to pick up in Hungary), and he liked the poetry of the Hungarian national poet and 19th century revolutionary Petőfi.

    But his position was that all nation-states (including Hungary) had to be abolished, it didn't matter what Hungary's borders were as long as there was communism in Hungary (and preferably in the neighboring countries and the whole world, too), and his regime abolished things like the Hungarian national flag.

    So he became a "Hungarian" without actually liking Hungarians (though he liked some parts of Hungarian culture). He obviously wasn't Hungarian by descent or feeling, except language and citizenship.

    Yet there's always an outrage when someone says he wasn't really Hungarian. We Hungarians have to own up to his deeds as our own.

    And to be honest, even in less extreme examples Jews aren't that big on Hungarian national feeling. Why is there outrage when it's questioned whether they are/were Hungarians?

    And to be honest, even in less extreme examples Jews aren’t that big on Hungarian national feeling.

    Yes, exactly. That’s why Hungarian Jews gave their kids names like Attila and Karoly.

    Google Attila Petschauer and Karoly Karpati.

    • Replies: @reiner Tor
    I'm aware of both.

    1) Giving names like the locals doesn't mean you like them, especially not if there are advantages to being unnoticed or similar to them. Béla Kun is a case in point: his surname was changed from Kohn (he was a kohan) to Kun (during his law university years unofficially and in 1916 officially), and his given name Béla is a typical Hungarian name. Yet there's little indication either he or his parents liked Hungarians much.

    2) In a large enough group, there are always counter-examples to any tendency within the group. There are patriotic or even nationalistic (for their respective white gentile nations) assimilated Jews (I have no idea if the two people you named belonged to this category, but not at all impossible), just as there are Jews whose IQ is below 100.

    3) Being non-Hungarian is not a moral failing. Whether Petschauer or Kárpáti were Hungarians or not, they were definitely suitable to be role models for anybody, being morally upright, hardworking and successful individuals.
  142. @Buffalo Joe
    Golf Pro, These are preschoolers, I hardly think that they can comprehend the meaning of " social construct."

    You’d be surprised what they can understand when their parents or teachers (mis-)explain it to them in a way they can understand.

    “… and then, and then mama, that brown boy Tyrell..”
    “You mean African-American boy, Susie”
    “Afra.. ”
    “African..
    “Afikan”
    “…American”
    “American”
    “Yes Susie, that’s right. What makes him an African-American, Susie?”
    (Shrugs)
    “Does he look different?”
    “He’s brown!”
    “Well, yes, Susie, he’s brown, but you know what?”
    “What?”
    “He’s actually no different at all from you or me. Some African-Americans are not even brown, and some white people are brown, Susie.”
    “You mean he is the same as me?”
    “Yes, Susie. Some African-American people have white parents or grandparents, and some white people have African-American parents or grandparents. We only think of him as brown and us as white, because of the bad white people known as Republicans and Southerners. They are actually no different at all from you and me.”
    “The South people are bad people?”
    “Yes Susie, they even like Donald Trump, who wants to beat up all the brown people and send them to another country even though they are the good guys.”

    No suprise that little Susie goes into her class the next day and thinks that white kids can be black adults.

  143. @carol
    when I was that age I wondered if boys could marry boys. girls were icky, me being one, so clearly they would prefer each other.

    http://americansfortruth.com/2016/04/29/brainwashed-kelly-ripas-son-was-so-over-exposed-to-homosexuals-getting-married-that-he-thought-normal-heterosexual-marriage-might-be-illegal-she-tells-glaad/

    BRAINWASHED: Kelly Ripa’s Son Was So Over-Exposed to Homosexuals Getting ‘Married’ that He Thought Normal, Heterosexual Marriage Might Be Illegal — She Tells GLAAD

  144. @ATX Hipster

    Mrs. 25 year old had an even better explanation: all black parents have had “the talk” with their black 6 year olds, and explained race to them. While many white parents haven’t explained it yet to their white 6 year olds.
     
    That's how I interpreted it, too. White parents are acutely aware of the type of awkward conversations that will be had with the pre-K teachers if Junior starts prattling on about how he's white in class. Black parents don't have that concern.

    For those who may have missed it, here is the link to John Derbyshire’s classic
    The Talk: Nonblack Version

    See also:
    The Defenestration of Derb

  145. @Triumph104

    In the South, the Irish were so associated with servile labour that they were consistently used as substitutes for slaves in more dangerous tasks like draining plantations, building levees and digging ditches and canals in malaria-infested land. Compared to the valuable investment of a slave, an Irish labourer was cheap and expendable.
     
    The American Irish: A History by Kevin Kenny

    Ironic then, isn’t it, that a disproportionately high number of ethnomasochists and SJWs are Irish or of Irish descent? (A fact I’ve heard mentioned by Kevin Michael Grace*, himself of Irish Catholic heritage, as well as John Derbyshire)

    *http://2kevins.com/

    • Replies: @Grandpa Jack
    Not really. They get brought into the left since the left pretends to be the ones empathizing with the victims. The Irish have a long history of "fighting the power," which is the mantle the left pretends to still hold. The left are happy to have the support, the votes, and the white faces spouting anti-white rhetoric to divide their enemies, and give the Irish SJWs the crumbs from their table in return. We'll look down on you for being white, but you can console yourself by knowing that you're fighting for the "right side of history".
    , @Hippopotamusdrome
    What about Pat Buchanan?
  146. @reiner Tor
    Assuming he's a real person and his claims of having converted to and practicing Orthodox Judaism are true, he had to undergo a very painful and humiliating surgery in adulthood to become a Jew, and many commentators here questioned his Judaism. For example I think one of the half-Jewish commentators (who admittedly is a member of a Christian denomination) micro-aggressed by telling him that he wasn't a Jew. I remember in Hungary some Hungarian gentiles questioning the Hungarian-ness of Jews, and the uproar that followed. I'm sure micro-aggressions against Luke Ford would be just as ferociously denounced, were they known to the public. Or not.

    Assuming he’s a real person and his claims of having converted to and practicing Orthodox Judaism are true, he had to undergo a very painful and humiliating surgery in adulthood to become a Jew….

    Most men in the US are circumcised.

    • Replies: @Dissident
    Male converts to Judaism who are already-circumcised must nonetheless undergo a ritual drawing of blood.
    , @Romanian
    WAIT what??? Really? Most men? I knew some gentiles do it too, but why would a majority of people mutilate the genitals of their sons?
  147. @ben tillman

    Assuming he’s a real person and his claims of having converted to and practicing Orthodox Judaism are true, he had to undergo a very painful and humiliating surgery in adulthood to become a Jew....
     
    Most men in the US are circumcised.

    Male converts to Judaism who are already-circumcised must nonetheless undergo a ritual drawing of blood.

    • Replies: @Dissident
    Additionally, Ford was born in Australia, not the U.S. (At least according to his Wikipedia entry).
  148. White adults, white 9- to 10-year-olds and racial minority 5- to 6-year-olds selected the same-race matches, which meant they believed, for instance, that a white child would grow up to be a white adult.

    But white 5- to 6-year-olds showed a different pattern. They selected the same-emotion and same-race matches at equal rates, which meant they were not committed to the belief that race was stable.

    Stunning mendacity!

    It meant that they believed an angry child would grow up to be an angry adult. The researchers have imposed their own belief that race is everything and (mis)interpreted results accordingly.

  149. @Dissident
    Male converts to Judaism who are already-circumcised must nonetheless undergo a ritual drawing of blood.

    Additionally, Ford was born in Australia, not the U.S. (At least according to his Wikipedia entry).

  150. @Jack D

    And to be honest, even in less extreme examples Jews aren’t that big on Hungarian national feeling.
     
    Yes, exactly. That's why Hungarian Jews gave their kids names like Attila and Karoly.

    Google Attila Petschauer and Karoly Karpati.

    I’m aware of both.

    1) Giving names like the locals doesn’t mean you like them, especially not if there are advantages to being unnoticed or similar to them. Béla Kun is a case in point: his surname was changed from Kohn (he was a kohan) to Kun (during his law university years unofficially and in 1916 officially), and his given name Béla is a typical Hungarian name. Yet there’s little indication either he or his parents liked Hungarians much.

    2) In a large enough group, there are always counter-examples to any tendency within the group. There are patriotic or even nationalistic (for their respective white gentile nations) assimilated Jews (I have no idea if the two people you named belonged to this category, but not at all impossible), just as there are Jews whose IQ is below 100.

    3) Being non-Hungarian is not a moral failing. Whether Petschauer or Kárpáti were Hungarians or not, they were definitely suitable to be role models for anybody, being morally upright, hardworking and successful individuals.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    Quite a few Chinese in Southeast Asia carry local names. In the West, the lucky ones named Lee, Young, Locke, etc, only have to transliterate the right way and they're in the club.
  151. @SXIOPO
    OT: A city in California is paying young, mostly black murderers $1,000 per month not to kill anyone else.

    http://www.cnn.com/2016/05/19/health/cash-for-criminals-richmond-california/index.html

    I'd love an extra $1,000/month. Apparently all I have to do is move to Richmond, kill someone, then return to law-abiding behavior.

    That’s the problem with initiatives such as this. I’ve read of more proposals like this one, on this blog even.

    It is demoralizing to law abiding citizens. You do not want to demoralize the core of your peaceful society, because a general breakdown in good behavior follows. Not necessarily killing, but still. The punishment of the guilty also reassures the law-abiding regarding the enforcement of societal rules which they respect even when it is inconvenient for them to do so.

  152. @TheJester
    We had our fill of public schools with racial and sexual-based political correctness with our two sons ... now grown. To avoid this, we've put our 5-year old grandson in a premium pre-K that costs $13,700/year. It is an excellent private school sans political correctness ... it's reading, writing, and arithmetic. I call it the "Harvard of pre-schools". The teachers are adults and certified career teachers with an 8:1 student/teacher ratio.

    Next year, he will go to a private kindergarten in the same school that costs $20,800/year. But our grandson can already add numbers, knows the alphabet, can spell, and has a moderate handle on Spanish (yes, they teach Spanish in pre-K). I guarantee that the private school will not tolerate any transgendered nonsense.

    I just got my tax bill from the county: $4,966/year. 69% of this goes to the local school system = $3,427. So, my total education costs will be $24,227/year. A little math and I'm paying an 83% premium to shield our grandson from the social pandemics in the public school system with the potential to ruin his life. Is it worth it ... without a doubt considering the alternative.

    As iSteve often notes, we're resegregating our society based on income ... or, the willingness to spend that income to escape the local school systems. I'm part of that movement. My heart goes out to those who cannot afford to escape the "freak show" in public education. At times I believe that God gave me a comfortable income so that we could afford to escape.

    Aren’t you actually paying a 606% premium? You are paying 7 times more than what you would have paid had you kept him in public school.

  153. @ben tillman

    Assuming he’s a real person and his claims of having converted to and practicing Orthodox Judaism are true, he had to undergo a very painful and humiliating surgery in adulthood to become a Jew....
     
    Most men in the US are circumcised.

    WAIT what??? Really? Most men? I knew some gentiles do it too, but why would a majority of people mutilate the genitals of their sons?

    • Replies: @melendwyr
    Because a majority of people do it. Simple conformism.
  154. It’s a medical thing. Like with fluoridation, which is banned in much of Europe.

  155. @TheJester
    We had our fill of public schools with racial and sexual-based political correctness with our two sons ... now grown. To avoid this, we've put our 5-year old grandson in a premium pre-K that costs $13,700/year. It is an excellent private school sans political correctness ... it's reading, writing, and arithmetic. I call it the "Harvard of pre-schools". The teachers are adults and certified career teachers with an 8:1 student/teacher ratio.

    Next year, he will go to a private kindergarten in the same school that costs $20,800/year. But our grandson can already add numbers, knows the alphabet, can spell, and has a moderate handle on Spanish (yes, they teach Spanish in pre-K). I guarantee that the private school will not tolerate any transgendered nonsense.

    I just got my tax bill from the county: $4,966/year. 69% of this goes to the local school system = $3,427. So, my total education costs will be $24,227/year. A little math and I'm paying an 83% premium to shield our grandson from the social pandemics in the public school system with the potential to ruin his life. Is it worth it ... without a doubt considering the alternative.

    As iSteve often notes, we're resegregating our society based on income ... or, the willingness to spend that income to escape the local school systems. I'm part of that movement. My heart goes out to those who cannot afford to escape the "freak show" in public education. At times I believe that God gave me a comfortable income so that we could afford to escape.

    Why not just keep him home until age eight, saving four years’ tuition fees (not “tuition”, please)?

    Raymond and Dorothy Moore would encourage this decades ago. They didn’t think children were ready until that age.

  156. @reiner Tor
    I'm aware of both.

    1) Giving names like the locals doesn't mean you like them, especially not if there are advantages to being unnoticed or similar to them. Béla Kun is a case in point: his surname was changed from Kohn (he was a kohan) to Kun (during his law university years unofficially and in 1916 officially), and his given name Béla is a typical Hungarian name. Yet there's little indication either he or his parents liked Hungarians much.

    2) In a large enough group, there are always counter-examples to any tendency within the group. There are patriotic or even nationalistic (for their respective white gentile nations) assimilated Jews (I have no idea if the two people you named belonged to this category, but not at all impossible), just as there are Jews whose IQ is below 100.

    3) Being non-Hungarian is not a moral failing. Whether Petschauer or Kárpáti were Hungarians or not, they were definitely suitable to be role models for anybody, being morally upright, hardworking and successful individuals.

    Quite a few Chinese in Southeast Asia carry local names. In the West, the lucky ones named Lee, Young, Locke, etc, only have to transliterate the right way and they’re in the club.

  157. @Dissident
    Ironic then, isn't it, that a disproportionately high number of ethnomasochists and SJWs are Irish or of Irish descent? (A fact I've heard mentioned by Kevin Michael Grace*, himself of Irish Catholic heritage, as well as John Derbyshire)

    *http://2kevins.com/

    Not really. They get brought into the left since the left pretends to be the ones empathizing with the victims. The Irish have a long history of “fighting the power,” which is the mantle the left pretends to still hold. The left are happy to have the support, the votes, and the white faces spouting anti-white rhetoric to divide their enemies, and give the Irish SJWs the crumbs from their table in return. We’ll look down on you for being white, but you can console yourself by knowing that you’re fighting for the “right side of history”.

    • Replies: @ben tillman

    Not really. They get brought into the left since the left pretends to be the ones empathizing with the victims. The Irish have a long history of “fighting the power,” which is the mantle the left pretends to still hold.
     
    Of course. That's how you justify aggression.
  158. @Grandpa Jack
    Not really. They get brought into the left since the left pretends to be the ones empathizing with the victims. The Irish have a long history of "fighting the power," which is the mantle the left pretends to still hold. The left are happy to have the support, the votes, and the white faces spouting anti-white rhetoric to divide their enemies, and give the Irish SJWs the crumbs from their table in return. We'll look down on you for being white, but you can console yourself by knowing that you're fighting for the "right side of history".

    Not really. They get brought into the left since the left pretends to be the ones empathizing with the victims. The Irish have a long history of “fighting the power,” which is the mantle the left pretends to still hold.

    Of course. That’s how you justify aggression.

  159. @Dissident
    Ironic then, isn't it, that a disproportionately high number of ethnomasochists and SJWs are Irish or of Irish descent? (A fact I've heard mentioned by Kevin Michael Grace*, himself of Irish Catholic heritage, as well as John Derbyshire)

    *http://2kevins.com/

    What about Pat Buchanan?

    • Replies: @Dissident
    Huh?

    I wrote "a disproportionately high number of ethnomasochists and SJWs are Irish or of Irish descent". Yet you respond as if I had said that all were.

    Furthermore, in my very post I cited an example of someone who is of Irish heritage but most definitely not an ethnomasochist or SJW: Kevin Michael Grace.

  160. @Hippopotamusdrome
    What about Pat Buchanan?

    Huh?

    I wrote “a disproportionately high number of ethnomasochists and SJWs are Irish or of Irish descent”. Yet you respond as if I had said that all were.

    Furthermore, in my very post I cited an example of someone who is of Irish heritage but most definitely not an ethnomasochist or SJW: Kevin Michael Grace.

  161. @Romanian
    WAIT what??? Really? Most men? I knew some gentiles do it too, but why would a majority of people mutilate the genitals of their sons?

    Because a majority of people do it. Simple conformism.

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