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Thom Mayne’s new rendering is to build on the site of the notorious Viper Room in Los Angeles, where Joaquin Phoenix’s brother River died of a drug overdose in the 1990s, two towers, one looking derelict and postapocalyptic and the other looking like the Attack of the Pincer People.

 
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  1. We should making the Viper To the he HQ of the BasedRight. Anyone who saw ducked bloviating prick Joaquin’s virtues signalling phelatio of his HollyWeird producers can’t help but rejoice at less of this entitled, pompous ((clan) of poseur pusses!!!!!

  2. We should making the Viper To the he HQ of the BasedRight. Anyone who saw ducked bloviating prick Joaquin’s virtues signalling phelatio of his HollyWeird producers can’t help but rejoice at less of this entitled, pompous ((clan) of poseur pussies!!!!!

  3. It inspires me . . . to go steal a Pitts Special and terrorize the occupants by consecutive outside looping and Immelmanns through the jaws of death.

  4. Thom Mayne must think nobody’s seen the execrable Hong Kong Jockey Club Innovation Tower at PolyU, designed by another overrated destroyer of the Graeco-Christian West’s public spaces, Zaha Hadid. How many more of these monstrosities are there going to be?

    • Replies: @El Dato
    , @mmack
  5. Thom Mayne must have been hungry when he thought of the design.

  6. OT, someone’s digging up Bloomberg quotes.

  7. Like a really expensive pair of ripped jeans.

  8. What’s with the 20-foot-tall Becky?

  9. What a pile of debris!

  10. Anonymous[152] • Disclaimer says:

    ‘Derelict and postapocalyptic’.

    ‘Deflated post-prophylaxis’ more like.

  11. Kronos says:

    Kinda reminds me of a shark chewing a barrel.

    • LOL: Harry Baldwin
  12. jb says:

    Many of the science fiction novels I read in my youth had cover illustrations showing all kinds of fantastic (and utterly impractical) architecture. Apparently I wasn’t the only one reading those novels.

    (Supposedly this is all happening on account of CAD/CAM, which has made buildings with individually designed and non-interchangeable elements almost as cheap to build as those where everything is boringly rectilinear).

  13. Ben H says:

    Reminds me of the “Kids in the Hall” I Crush Your Head skit

  14. Hemid says:

    Extremely clichéd lower-middlebrow crap—except for the “subliminal” upskirt ad.

    “I’m not sure why, but I really like it,” said the old men with money.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  15. songbird says:

    With some of the more brutalist buildings, I used to think, “but how well would it hold up to a nuclear weapon.” Because, some of them looked pretty tough.

    Not this one, though.

  16. Ano says:

    I’m on the drug, I’m on the drug which makes me think this is better than the Viper Room

  17. duncsbaby says:

    Footage of Thomas Mayne in the early 90’s:

  18. Shocking the bourgeoisie! At least this is for the silly Hollywood crowd who will enjoy feeling “edgy”.

    Interesting he won the Pritzker prize, from the billionaire Pritzker family, given that one of the family members is now a transgender male to female. I don’t think our current “elites” having staying power.

  19. Anonymous[100] • Disclaimer says:

    Ah yes, a good visual metaphor for our current societal situation, with the ruined-looking “normie” building being crushed in the jaws of that alien monstrosity.

  20. As a prospective tenant, I really want an apartment whose floor-to-ceiling windows are bisected by pointless diagonal swathes of metal.

    • Replies: @A1
    , @Alfa158
    , @Lagertha
  21. Sam Lowry says:

    Actually, that’s interesting. Beats the ubiquitous, generic glass towers that have popped up all over the world in the last 20 years. Also, for LA and that neighborhood, it’s a good fit–sometimes crazy works. Yes, much of contemporary architecture sucks, but some new stuff does work. We can’t be slaves to the past, but can build upon the great legacy of Western Civilization to, maybe, take it to new heights. Yes, that’s too sentimental, but still….

  22. Barnard says:

    Won’t it take a lot more than natural rainwater to keep all those plants alive in Southern California? It seems unlikely any part of that design would be energy efficient. Could it be that the whole LEED system is a scam?

  23. Erik L says:

    Maybe it’s going to be The Defenders new superhero headquarters.

  24. inertial says:

    Points for trees and shrubbery. They don’t look that good on highrises from far away; but up close they are awesome.

  25. Bartolo says:

    I have to say I quite like this one. Some modern buildings are OK, like 1 in 20 or so.

  26. It looks like ivy or maybe ferns draped off the balconies on the left. I cannot recall any iconic ivy buildings in Los Angeles. I would definitely have gone with a species of cactus.

  27. benjaminl says:

    This Twitter thread makes a visual case for Modernism e.g. Mies Van Der Rohe

    However, the core problem is that ‘beautiful photograph’ does not equal ‘good building.’

    A photograph can’t really tell you:

    * is the building compatible with the physical scale of human beings?
    * what about light, shade, temperature, climate?
    * what happens when it gets old, or needs cleaning, or breaks, or is less than 100% pristine?
    * can you actually use it for the intended purpose?

    @wrathofgnon on Twitter is great at exploring the actual realities of what makes a good building, as opposed to the zoomy fantasies in architects’ heads.

    By contrast, here in the NYT is an enthusiastic piece on architecture strictly as a matter of “lusty fantasies”
    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/06/arts/design/Lequeu-Morgan-Library.html

    • Thanks: Alan Mercer
    • Replies: @Lot
    , @Kratoklastes
  28. AKAHorace says:

    It may not look pretty but it is better than the featureless glass blocks that are most modern buildings.

  29. J1234 says:

    Who waters the hanging plants after the apocalypse? It is Los Angeles, after all. (Or maybe climate change will take care of that.)

  30. A1 says:
    @Harry Baldwin

    And the apartment above’s unkept ivy…..

  31. I see this as a work of satire. Tech junk is devouring more conventional junk. Does it matter? Does LA matter? Perhaps it’s transformative and will become a shopping center or a mausoleum after the next earthquake.

  32. Lurker says:

    Wtf is wrong with these people?!

  33. Lot says:

    Looks like a black hole’s gravity is ripping apart a normal building.

  34. Lot says:
    @benjaminl

    That link didn’t work, but this might:

    I don’t need to be convinced the first wave of modern architecture is good. But this wasn’t too great an argument. Lots of B&W pics, interior shots of hallways and atriums, and water features. Hard to screw that up.

  35. Alfa158 says:
    @Harry Baldwin

    A Chicagoan told me that at one point those offices in the John Hancock building that had one of the diagonal trusses diagonally sectoring the window, became more desirable than the ones with rectangular windows. In that case though, it looks like the trusses makes for an interesting window shape without obstructing too much of the outside. That Mayne monstrosity will simply shut off the light and view from some rooms.

    • Replies: @Lot
  36. Buck says:

    Looks like a simple allegory of postmodernism consuming modernism. The post-apocalyptic left tower is exactly the kind of building the modern international style created by the thousands in cities around the world, but left to the elements to rot.

    The tower on the right represents the morally relativist postmodern world. The amorphous cladding obscures that its actual purpose is to house human activity. It’s an architectural antifa screaming, “Don’t tell me form-follows-function. That’s fascism! I’ll destroy your f-ing World Corp building!”

  37. Not Raul says:

    Isn’t the Viper Room a historic site of great notoriety?

    Is nothing sacred to the oligarchs of LA?

  38. This is what you get when you freebase off a Michigan state highway map.

    Are we supposed to see up her skirt?

  39. I’m taking bets on which one collapses first when the Big One hits.

  40. I like that area in the lower right, what appears to be a space for advertising, showing a model in a mini dress. That would be an important revenue generator to compensate for the cost of watering and cultivating all that greenery.

    These designs are short-sighted, as if created to be demolished in a few decades the way present era sports stadia are.

    The word cheap comes to mind.

    Designs like this are labor-intensive, requiring normally-unnecessary maintenance like watering all the plants in odd places. This is sheer luxury designed by people with no connection to the Earth, to work, to people, at all. Fantasy. Faggot fantasy. Broadway stage sets for a limited run, even if the designers are not homosexual.

    • Replies: @Old Palo Altan
  41. Lot says:
    @Alfa158

    Giant glass windows covering 50% or more of a wall might be OK in Chicago, but in the SW and Southern California where there’s often completely cloudless skies and full sun for weeks at a time, they are unpleasant.

    One example I know the building requires AC every afternoon when the outside high temp goes higher than 65.

  42. Anon[137] • Disclaimer says:

    OT: A new paper on COV19 says men are dying at three times the rate of women. 4.45 vs. 1.25%.

    https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.02.10.20021675v1.full.pdf

    71% of all cases are people between the ages of 30 and 65. This echoes the Spanish Flu is 1918, in which the middle-aged got socked hard.

    Half of Chinese men smoke vs. a small percentage of women, so smoking appears to be the most important factor in whether you live or die. You can’t have already-damaged lungs and then get COV19. Even in normal circumstances, smokers get pneumonia at twice the rate nonsmokers do.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    , @anon
  43. LEED is a scam, yeah.

    Btw, Mayne is a ‘60s guy, and he intends (and has always intended) his designs to be radical, to be attacks on The Establishment, and to be efforts to transcend“normal” ways of pleasure and of seeing things. Because normal is oppressive, natch.

    If you aren’t picking up the flagrant antagonism to Western Civ in Mayne’s work, you’re missing a big part of it.

    • Replies: @Mr McKenna
  44. Interesting to note the waste of space: given the relative scarcity of developable land in major cities, it is almost criminal to have almost half the volume being nothing but air.

    Kind of meta, when you think about it: pretentious celebrity architect, massive waste of space..

  45. @Anon

    OT: A new paper on COV19 says men are dying at three times the rate of women. 4.45 vs. 1.25%.

    This is true of almost any communicable disease. Nothing to see here.

    • Replies: @Don't Look at Me
  46. El Dato says:
    @Change that Matters

    But how can you resist something called “Innovation Tower”. It’s totally out there with the “Space Force”. Everytime you take the elevator, it’s as if Steve Jobs was personally riding with you.

    Now, if it was called “Intergalactic House of Pancakes”…

  47. anon[144] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon

    ACE-2 receptors in the lungs matter for this virus. People who breath in a lot of smoke have more of them than ordinary people.

  48. @YetAnotherAnon

    If he had the balls to go back to his true self, he’d make a good running mate for Trump; those two have a lot in common. Imagine them jetting around the country pissing off all the right people?

    • Replies: @YetAnotherAnon
    , @J1234
  49. Anonymous[180] • Disclaimer says:
    @Hemid

    Superliminal upstream under-textuality

  50. Shit ugly waste of space.

    • Replies: @Kronos
  51. The Viper Room was one of the most un-fun Rock clubs in the universe, stiff and unbearable and nothing but Scenesters and bad vibes all around. So it’s sort of fitting that Cthulhu should squat on its accursed grave.

    • Replies: @Hemid
  52. @Reg Cæsar

    Yes but this effect women when their breadwinner is gone or their dating pool is decreased.

    So “Women hardest hit.”

  53. mmack says:
    @Change that Matters

    “The Jockey Club is melting, in the light, all the bright chrome icing flowing down”

  54. Chew gotta be kidding me Mayne.

    • Replies: @Bostonvegas
  55. Mayne liked to build scale models when he was a kid, in a small room, with poor ventilation, filled with lots of open containers of airplane glue.

    • LOL: Harry Baldwin
  56. why should i care what the buildings look like in a foreign country.

    california is hostile foreign country and their leader wants you dead. they even tell you openly that they want you dead.

    it can’t be anymore simple than that.

    too bad more people can’t see it that way and continue to pretend there is still a nation here.

  57. anon[336] • Disclaimer says:

    A building that promises high maintenance costs is more of a disposable object than otherwise.
    Snob appeal vs. utility.

  58. @Sam Lowry

    You’re quite right.

    Sunset Boulevard is a very long street; it has its highs and its lows. Right here we are hitting at about its lowest, and a building like this will do wonders for the blocks either side of it.

    As you say, this is LA for heaven’s sake: architectural whimsy is part of its DNA.

    So I look forward to seeing it going up, and enjoying it once it is there.

    • Replies: @Lot
  59. J.Ross says:

    Harriet Tubman Debit Card — Every Swipe Brings You Closer to Freedom! Or Canada, which is the opposite of freedom.

    OneUnited Bank has been blasted after releasing a ‘limited edition Harriet Tubman Visa Debit card’

    The card features a painting of Tubman standing defiantly with her arms crossed.

    Some critics ridiculed the bank claiming the pose is a rip-off of Black Panther’s ‘Wakanda Forever’ salute.

    The financial institution – which is the largest black owned bank in the US – hit back claiming the picture shows Tubman saying the word ‘love’ in sign language.

    Tubman, who was born a slave in 1822 before she later escaped, is best known for undertaking 13 missions to rescue nearly 70 other enslaved people prior to the Civil War.

    ‘Harriet is the ultimate symbol of fearless organizing and rebellion against a sadistic capitalistic enterprise (slavery).

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8004911/OneUnited-Bank-sparks-outrage-releasing-Harriet-Tubman-debit-card.html

  60. @Buzz Mohawk

    “Designs like this are labor-intensive, requiring normally-unnecessary maintenance like watering all the plants in odd places. This is sheer luxury designed by people with no connection to the Earth, to work, to people, at all. Fantasy. Faggot fantasy. Broadway stage sets for a limited run, even if the designers are not homosexual.”

    Precisely. As I said above, its LA – even more to the point, it is Sunset Boulevard, locus of every fantasy anybody ever had about LA and what they would achieve once they were there.

    • Replies: @Buzz Mohawk
  61. @Paleo Retiree

    Why is Mayne even getting so much attention now? It’s not as though there’s any shortage of architects peddling “look at me” anti-urban monstrosities.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  62. @benjaminl

    * what about light, shade, temperature, climate?
    * what happens when it gets old, or needs cleaning, or breaks, or is less than 100% pristine?
    * can you actually use it for the intended purpose?

    This is a characteristic of a very large amount of ‘architecture’ – even in older buildings. Get past the presentation layer, and it is really obvious that whoever designed it was never going use it, or to be responsible for maintaining it (and especially not cleaning it).

    Inspired by George Clarke’s accented pronunciation, I refer to it as “Orc-itecture” (the mangling of the built environment by tax-eating pretentious fuckbags).

    [MORE]

    In the battle between low-quality dwelling construction (where a brand-new home has a ‘tinny’ feel – like you could pull it apart with a flat-head screwdriver) and pretentious, overpriced brainfarts produced by “architects”, I know which side I’m on… “little boxes on a hillside” might all be made of ticky-tacky; they may all look quite the same; but they’re generally fit for purpose and use the available space efficiently (i.e., in furtherance of the purpose).

    By contrast, I have honestly never seen an architect-designed building where the guy doing the ‘UX’ wasn’t sacrificing functionality in order to make some hackneyed bullshit self-promoting point.

    In modern buildings, it’s some freshman-philosophy bullshit (about ‘subverting the dominant paradigm’, usually)… in history it was just about doing power-projection for the patron (usually government).

    Fuck both of those things, with one caveat: so long as the money is made with no reliance on artificial monopoly or oligopoly, people can do what they like with their own money. Grand country houses can be wasteful-of-space and costly to maintain but if its their own money, honestly made, then go for it.

    Government buildings, on the other hand, should all be concrete cubes with 9-foot ceilings and no ornamentation: government is inefficient enough already without spending extra money on fripperies to embiggen the reputation of some pretentious prick.

    That said: my guess is that people who make their money without recourse to artificial monopoly power, are probably not prone to being that wasteful.

    The genuinely self-made rich guys I know (private-sector traders who started with their own stake and never took other people’s money), all bought slightly-dilapidated gentilhommières, or small châteaux, or little hameaux – you can get any of those in the French, Spanish or Italian countryside, with orchards, vineyards and a view, for a few hundred grand. A million bucks and you’ve got something like this little maison de maître (currently on at €1.155m, but trust me: this will eventually sell for €650k. The Perigord is beautiful: my 2nd-favourite pied-à-terre is just down the road in Sarlat-le-Canéda).

    Yes, it was almost certainly designed by a pretentious (French) tosspot – which is why it has those ‘missile launchers’ – but some other dickhead paid that tosspot pre-Revolutionary prices to have those installed.

    Anyhow… my views on “Orc-itecture” is why I am encouraged to absent myself from coffee get-togethers when The Lovely‘s uncle Ken is in town – worse than an architect, he’s now a Professor of Architecture, infecting the minds of gullible young folk.

    He literally sputtered wine at one lunch (a decade ago) where I laid out my dislike of all the ‘major’ buildings in every town in Australia – regardless of what they look like, they were always owned by charlatans (government and organised religion) or firms with government-mandated oligopoly power (banks), and were the ‘architectural’ equivalent of …

    A supermodel with gonorrhoea: the underlying ‘bad’ more than outweighs the outward appearance. Difference is: gonorrhoea can be remedied..”

    Fortunately we were drinking white (it was summer).

    I went on to say something like

    “In your game – ‘big ticket’ buildings and what-not – it’s the structural engineers who should be the rockstars… almost nobody knows who those guys are, but I bet you do because without them things break badly. They’re equivalent of the guys who maintain the back-end of the web. The front end is embroidery. Architecture is front-end for buildings.”

    Bad front-end has consequences, but the front-end dickheads are seldom brought to account.

    The Grenfell Tower fire (in London) was 100% ‘front end’: the cladding that caught fire was part of the embroidery, not part of the structure. Nigel Whitbread – the pretentious fuckwit who designed it – is not in jail. If the failure at Grenfell had been an engineering (structural) failure, the person responsible would never work again.

  63. Ragno says:
    @YetAnotherAnon

    Just a matter of time until it’s Trump v Bloomberg…..that whooshing sound you’ll hear will be all the Likudniks who’ve been backslapping Trump the past four years, as they vacate the premises at warp-speed to cut out the goy middleman while maintaining the same ownership in control. Meanwhile, our virtue-posturing mass media, on behalf of their fellow Deep State elites, will require only the most insincere of me wokey now, too! bromides from Midget Mike to explain away all the Bull Connor analogies they’re currently attempting to bury him with.

    When even Boy Jared starts to use burners exclusively, conducting all his phone conversations in Yiddish, and Orange Man finds himself increasingly Rabinowitzless in an arena utterly dependent on them – meaning the USA, and largely thanks to his own shenanigans – perhaps all of us, right and left, can together learn “meet the new boss, same as the old boss” the hard way, once again.

  64. 36 ulster says:

    Someone has actually outdone Frank Gehry in the aesthetic vandalism department.

  65. J.Ross says:
    @YetAnotherAnon

    Back when he was running for mayor Bloomberg was the target of a rumory Counterpunch piece claiming that he was a major sexual harasser, and installed a particular type of stairway to be able to see up skirts. However, he dodged MeToo, and the rumors are now along the lines that he has removed that staircase and replaced it with a Turkish bath.

  66. @International Jew

    She has more

    • Replies: @anon
  67. SND says:

    After airplane attack building will fall into its mouthprint.

  68. anonymous[117] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jim Bob Lassiter

    Heh…my (late) father flew under the Brooklyn Bridge in a Piper (probably Cub) back when you could do that without getting pursued and arrested.
    The past is a different country, etc.

    • Replies: @Joe Stalin
  69. @YetAnotherAnon

    Man i hear too many more of these old bloomberg quotes and im gonna have a new favorite jew not from nazareth…but hes got a way to go to catch my man larry auster!

  70. anon[398] • Disclaimer says:
    @YetAnotherAnon

    She has more

    • Replies: @Mr McKenna
  71. @Jenner Ickham Errican

    Thats funny …you are a precious rarity….why are you not a famous commediene but unfunny ellen is.As david horowitz once said you are more likely to run into a hobbit in downtown los angelos than a funny female your entire life!….ive been lucky to run into a couple though

    • Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican
  72. Hemid says:
    @The Germ Theory of Disease

    I liked it because I was cool at the same time the club was, but when River died and half of the almost-famous regulars (Keanu, the Chili Peppers, Jane’s) became truly famous, the place was lost.

    I don’t think Steve fans are likely to sympathize, but truly—

    The best place in the world is wherever the finest teenage whores are. For a year or two about thirty years ago, it was wonderful.

  73. @Mr McKenna

    Why is Mayne even getting so much attention now? It’s not as though there’s any shortage of architects peddling “look at me” anti-urban monstrosities.

    Well, he’s got a wife, and a presentable if not young one, so it’s not that…

    I propose he spend the rest of his career working on Willy Brandt Airport in Berlin.

    I also propose that NASA’s next telescope be named for Strom Thurmond, for his pioneering work in exploring black holes.

  74. martin_2 says:

    Mr Bloomberg’s past remarks are surfacing and the liberal establishment is shocked and horrified whilst normal people are smiling at his humour and honesty, and asking “what is he saying that is factually incorrect?”

    But is this not precisely what happened with Mr Trump in 2016? Maybe Mr Bloomberg is playing 4D Chess?

  75. Lagertha says:
    @Harry Baldwin

    It is essentially, Bad Design. There are too many ideas and no beauty. He is heavily influenced by Gehry who was influenced by Aalto. Too many angles and curves start to look silly….Aalto would not approve. This library has the visual play that works

    https://archdaily.com/907675/oodi-helsinki-central-library-ala-architects

  76. @anon

    “How could he be so foolish as to run for president, knowing all of this?”

    It all fits together. The colossal wealth combined with the colossal self-regard combined with the colossal lack of self-awareness. It’s what we call a type.

    Too bad with DJT (as Steve has said) we’ve already got our first Jewish president.

    Guess what day it is today? 😉

  77. @Sam Lowry

    I can appreciate how different in looks. Agreed, that it’s not a typical ” glass and steel” or Brutalist monstrosity.
    Is it still a monstrosity? Perhaps… But at least it looks like it might turn into a Kaiju.

  78. Some years ago 7-Up ran an ad campaign calling its product “the un-Cola.” Mayne contrives erections that are the un-Buildings.

  79. @Jim Bob Lassiter

    I wouldn’t. If you look closely, there are three people on top of the building and one of them is aiming a long rifle.

  80. Anonymous[427] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jim Bob Lassiter

    I knew the first guy who looped the Gateway Arch in a Pitts. A couple of different guys did it, one a Pitts, the other was a big engine four aileron Stearman. They whitewashed over the N numbers and did it when the number of people around who could have them followed was likely to be low and got away with it but then they put in all kind of stuff to track violators and they were willing to scramble interceptors to follow them down after that. Probably twenty people flew through the Arch, but two actually looped it.

    It hasn’t been done in decades. It would be a federal beef today.

    Up until probably the late seventies or so flying under bridges, buzzing houses, etc was generally regarded as boys-will-be-boys hijinks, but Popular and Official Opinion changed and people got permanent license revocations and felony prosecutions and then it stopped, pretty much.

  81. Peterike says:

    “Up until probably the late seventies or so flying under bridges, buzzing houses, etc was generally regarded as boys-will-be-boys hijinks”

    The loss — indeed the criminalization — of boys-will-be-boys hijinks is a cultural disaster of massive proportions. And something nobody discusses.

    I think it unraveled with the crime boom of the 60s when black boy hijinks morphed into genuine criminality. White males have lost much thanks to black crime and white liberals.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  82. Lot says:
    @Old Palo Altan

    I don’t think it is whimsical, but actively hideous.

    Whimsical is all the fun Jetsons/Googie buildings LA has the biggest concentration of.

    Very well done photo tour of them here:

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/albums/72157624749427042/

  83. @Old Palo Altan

    That makes sense. Sunset Boulevard is the home of Devo alumnus Mark Mothersbaugh’s Mutato Muzika in this building:

    Originally it was a normal color when it was a plastic surgery office. Mothersbaugh had it painted when he bought it and established his music studio inside. It is a thing of beauty, guaranteed to make other buildings green with envy.

    He is Devo.

  84. Anonymous[427] • Disclaimer says:
    @Peterike

    Hijinks involving airplanes moving at speed can be deadly. Somebody did something with a few transport aircraft involving a couple of buildings somewhere out east a few years back, and it caused quite a ruckus as I recall.

    A light airplane, even, slamming into the top of the Gateway Arch would not be trivial.The cross section of the structure isn’t much thicker than the fuselage of a heavy transport airplane, and a collision involving even a light airplane can and has taken down heavy transports all the time.

    I remember seeing a house that a disgruntled and upset individual (he’d caught his wife getting serviced by a co-worker in his own bedroom) had slammed into in kamikaze fashion in a rented Piper Cherokee. Had anyone been anywhere in the house they would have been killed. The only things recognizable as aircraft in the rubble were the prop hub and crankshaft and the gear struts: they said that if witnesses hadn’t seen it and the airplane wasn’t missing, they would have never been able to identify the aircraft since all the ID plates burned up in the fire. The wife had the temerity to sue the FBO, as the pilot had not properly rented the aircraft (he was in good standing with the FBO and rented there regularly) but went out and stole it, perhaps cutting the wire from the mag switch. her attorney argued they should have had the aircraft secured better. The judge threw it out of court summarily.

  85. anonymous[117] • Disclaimer says:
    @Joe Stalin

    Those were the days…to kind of round out the story, my Dad remembered, that when he was already “committed” to go under the bridge, that the bridge employees, when doing maintenance/replacement on the cables, would occasionally leave cable ends hanging under the bridge.
    Too late! He went under the Brooklyn Bridge, no cable ends hanging, no wings clipped off, and thus survived.

    Best guess is the this happened sometime between 1948 (Dad discharged from U.S army) and 1952.

  86. @Bostonvegas

    why are you not a famous comedienne

    Well for one thing I don’t want no ‘front hole’ where my crotch tackle hangs! Ouch.

    https://www.unz.com/isteve/trump-bannon-open-thread/#comment-2144504

    Thats funny …you are a precious rarity….

    Thank you. Hmm, Precious Rarity would be a great drag name.

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  87. @Anonymous

    Baseball pitcher Cory Lidle’s Cirrus aircraft crashed into an apartment building in 2006 in Manhattan. My broter and I watched the fire from his living room window three blocks north and west, though we both missed seeing the actual crash. Five years after 9/11, it caused quite a bit of concern for a couple of hours, before it became clear what had happened.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006_New_York_City_plane_crash

  88. @Anonymous

    Hijinks involving airplanes moving at speed can be deadly.

    Too soon?

  89. What would really make this building is a Tamim al-Majd or two.

  90. HoekomSA says:

    The English magazine “the New Scientist” had an interesting article on a dramatic recent increase on phobias based on spots. It described how phobias are based on either fear or disgust. We are genetically predisposed to have phobias about certain things So phobias about spiders or rats , based on fear are easy to develop, but it is near impossible to develop fear of flowers.
    Disgust phobia eg dirt develop to protect against sicknesses. So why the increased fear of spot?
    Modern archtecture at a subliminal level is full of spots and breaks and not classical lines and good form and so creates the environment where we are predisposed to be aware of spots and it triggers our disgust phobia.
    Or put it another way modern achitcture is disgusting and makes us want to vomit.

  91. @YetAnotherAnon

    In defense of israel bombing schools and hospitals, Bloomberg lets the mask slip and refers to israel as “we”.

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  92. @Jim Bob Lassiter

    Well, to paraphrase Hillary, what Goddamn difference does it make at this point? I’ve already stolen the Pitts.

  93. Ragno says:
    @YetAnotherAnon

    Just a matter of time until it’s Trump v Bloomberg…..that whooshing sound you’ll hear will be all the Likudniks who’ve been backslapping Trump the past four years, as they vacate the premises at warp-speed to cut out the goy middleman while maintaining the same ownership in control. Meanwhile, our virtue-posturing mass media, on behalf of their fellow Deep State elites, will require only the most insincere of me wokey now, too! bromides from Midget Mike to explain away all the Bull Connor analogies they’re currently attempting to bury him with.

    When even Boy Jared starts to use burners exclusively, conducting all his phone conversations in Yiddish, and Orange Man finds himself increasingly Rabinowitzless in an arena utterly dependent on them – meaning the USA, and largely thanks to his own shenanigans – perhaps all of us, right and left, can together learn “meet the new boss, same as the old boss” the hard way, once again.

  94. J1234 says:
    @International Jew

    If he had the balls to go back to his true self, he’d make a good running mate for Trump

    I recently said that I might consider voting for Bloomberg (the old “true self” one) were it not for his extreme anti-gun activism. I understand that you are (as I am) just presenting a what-if scenario, but that sort of activism is irreconcilable for the right. I don’t know how far back his very public anti-gun stance goes, but if he’s like a lot of other prominent New Yorkers (Trump and a few others aside) he was probably born with it.

    Bloomberg might be the Democratic nominee. The guy is smart: avoid most of the insane radical cult-Marxist talking points by avoiding the early debates…in part because they’d lead to very public accusations against his law and order, stop-and-frisk policies. That history will hold him back in the primaries far more than his comments on women. In a few more months, however, when presented with a choice between the unelectable Bernie and the Democratic version of Trump, Dems may hold their nose and nominate the latter. (I don’t think Mayor Pete is viewed by Dems as having what it takes to beat Trump either.)

    So Bloomberg has a much better chance against Trump than Bernie, but his nomination would definitely depress Dem turnout in the general. The type of radicalism found in significant segments of the Democratic party today is (as most radicalism seems to be) somewhere between a political movement and a religious movement, and religions are looking for saviors, not least worst alternatives.

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