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  1. I wonder what personal items will I be allowed to bring to my regional White Racism Awareness and Re-Education Camp?

    When I look at AOC I see piles of spectacles and human hair.

    • Thanks: JimDandy
    • LOL: Nodwink, Abe
  2. TheMann says:

    So these creatures lost systematically: local elections, State elections, Congressional Elections, and only a presidential win through massive vote fraud……

    And they think that they are making a list.

    That is hilarious.

    Here is list number one:

    Every Politician that has ordered a lockdown, business closures, restraint of travel, masking ( a species of psychological torture), forced testing, eventually, forced vaccines, is guilty if War Crimes and crimes against Humanity.

    And that puts you on a list – a permanent one.

    • Agree: Mike Tre, anarchyst
    • Thanks: Ragno
    • Replies: @Peter Akuleyev
  3. Here’s a little list of people who want to make a list:
    Jennifer Rubin
    Michael Simon
    Emily Abrams

    Looks like the same kind of people who made list of Kulaks.

  4. Anonymous[227] • Disclaimer says:

    https://twitter.com/emabrams/status/1324801501177499648

    Fellow American. Previously @PeteButtigieg for President. Proud alum of other good dems + companies.

    There’s that “Fellow…” crypsis tic.

    Michael Simon @mbsimon
    @AOC Yes, we are.

    The Trump Accountability Project (@trumpaccproject)

    Every Administration staffer, campaign staffer, bundler, lawyer who represented them — everyone.

    November 6th 2020

    former Obama administration staffer Michael Simon

    (Simon locked his account.)

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @Hypnotoad666
  5. For no reason whatsoever, the Germans randomly voted Hitler into power.

    Dispatches from the end stage of the Weimerican Republic.

  6. Rob McX says:

    Race doesn’t exist.

    Gender is fluid and non-binary.

    All the votes were counted honestly.

    Will that buy me some time?

    • Thanks: Harry Baldwin
    • LOL: Old Prude
  7. Anonymous[227] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous

    Oh, Abrams locked hers too.

    Emily Abrams @emabrams
    We’re launching the Trump Accountability Project to make sure anyone who took a paycheck to help Trump undermine America is held responsible for what they did.

    Join us and help spread the word.

    The Trump Accountability Project
    We should never forget those who helped further the Trump agenda.trumpaccountability.net

    November 6th 2020

    • Replies: @Gary in Gramercy
  8. Somehow people like Jennifer Rubin and yes, even AOC, do not scare me in the way that guys from the Gestapo or E. German Stasi would have. Is it just their manner of dress or maybe the high-talking that leads me to think I could take these people if it came down to it?*

    BTW, thank you, commenter Vinteuil on a previous thread for the point-out to the East German uprising of 1953. How quickly people forget how much of a miserable shitshow Communist life was in Europe only 3 decades ago, not to mention elsewhere.

    .

    OTOH, Major Hochstedler of the SS in Hogan’s day was kind of a high talker himself.

  9. BTW, Miss Rubin, most of us don’t aspire to be “in office”, which won’t mean very much anyway if we refuse to comply. We also don’t all relish those faculty positions which also won’t mean that much if people ever get wise to what a scam the universities have become, both in the guaranteed-loan/sky-high tuition mortgage-sized debt aspect of them and the SJW indoctrination over education aspect.

    Put me on the list, bitch! I’m already not part of polite society. What’s the diff?

  10. Voted for Trump? Hope you kept it secret, otherwise you could lose your job.

    https://bannedhipster.home.blog/2020/11/06/voted-trump-lose-your-job-democrats-announce-reprisals-against-voters/

    Conservative Mom who voted for Trump? Maybe someone might call CPS to see if you are teaching your kids “white supremacy” and “transphobia.”

    It’s not coming … it’s already here. Already no conservatives are free to post conservative ideas on social media without risking their jobs.

    Your bank account is next, possibly your utilities if you own your own home. A China style “social credit score” is already here, but thanks to American capitalism, it’s privatized.

    So you can’t complain.

    • Replies: @ben tillman
  11. Trinity says:

    Should I be afraid or something? Are the tolerant leftoids threatening me by not allowing me into their “polite society?” Hmm, “hold a faculty position?” Well, since my work was always the blue collar type of job WHERE I ACTUALLY HAD TO WORK AND BUILD SOMETHING OF VALUE, I’m not sure I would fit into that type of environment. Anyhow, come on down to the sticks and visit anytime, and say hello to my little friend, Diesel, named after football player, John Riggins. That son of a bitch ( pun intended) can knock down 200lb plus men just like number 44 did back in the day, and his nails will rip flesh. He’s my friendly American bulldog, he’s just a big white and brindle lug, full of joy, love and teeth. Strong as an ox, that boy is. He loves treats so bring him something special to eat and bring something for my other critters roaming around, be sure to give them a bully rub or two as well. Welcome to my casa, I’ll put a pot of coffee on the fire and grill up some nice steaks. Do you prefer A1 or Heinz 57 steak sauce, breh?

  12. Holodomor

    Lazar Kaganovitch

    • Replies: @WJ
  13. Twinkie says:

    She is supposed to be the token conservative at NYT. Hilarious.

  14. Dumbo says:

    It’s OK Ms. Rubin. We also have a ‘list’. And you’re in it. 😉

    • Replies: @Marty T
  15. Folks like Jennifer Rubin, and let’s not forget AOC, always have lists. Maybe we should talk about what the list makers did after gaining authority in Bolshevik and Soviet Russia.

  16. AndrewR says:

    I almost feel sorry for her (that’s a she, right?). She is so unambiguously repulsive that I even Haitian rentboys would probably turn her down no matter what she offered them.

  17. OT: Hilariously untrue WAPO headline of the day:

    As Biden nears victory, world hopes for an end to American isolationism

    It is like a dispatch from a different universe, or from some other time, maybe 1913.

    The US? Isolationist? Now?

    And the world wants more US interventions? Maybe (((the world))).

    I wish the US was isolationist.

  18. They are not even trying to pretend any more.

  19. Barnard says:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    She is trying to threaten Republican office holders now that they won’t get the cushy jobs they are used to getting in retirement if they don’t condemn Trump now on and demand he takes the loss. She doesn’t care about us.

  20. We should also put all Trump voters on that list so we can Uighur them when the time comes.

    • Agree: Jonathan Mason
  21. @Rob McX

    Race doesn’t exist.

    I am not even sure that is the proper Officially Approved Opinion today at 8:11 EST. Otherwise why did all those White women who were recently discovered to be pretending to be PoC get in trouble? And how can the Harris administration know from whom to extract reparations if there is no way to identify the White people?

  22. Ano says:

    Hello Comrade Steve!

    It’s Joe here.

    Joe Stalin (you know, the Joe who was more honestly elected).

    Yes! Elected!

    I too have just won an election- on 12 December 1937 (the first since the Revolution)- and thanks to my team of election advisers from the DNC, out of my 1137 candidates, all 1137 won!!

    Thank you Democrats! I couldn’t have won 100% of the vote without your know-how!

    Plus, a shout out to the man himself, Joe B, for permitting me to quote him , when I said (on the eve of election day, speaking at the Bolshoi Theatre):

    “The elections will be the freest ever held in any country in the world…History does not know of another such example. They are much more democratic than elections in any other country.”

    PS: Steve, I too love little (or not so little) lists!

    Do you think Ms Rubin could give me some tips and pointers?

    Yours,

    Uncle Joe

  23. @Elmer T. Jones

    I wonder what personal items will I be allowed to bring to my regional White Racism Awareness and Re-Education Camp?

    I don’t wonder that at all, because I know what personal item will be in my hands when they come to take me.

    • Replies: @Bel Riose
  24. Rob McX says:
    @Twinkie

    The term “conservative” needs to be qualified by stating which ethnic group you wish to conserve.

    • Agree: Gordo, Bugg
    • Replies: @J.Ross
    , @Wilkey
    , @Dissident
  25. IHTG says:
    @Twinkie

    Washington Post. But actually no, they’ve got Marc Thiessen.

  26. American politics often just seems to be Jewish people arguing with each other.

    • LOL: El Dato
    • Replies: @Lurker
  27. Hibernian says:
    @Twinkie

    I don’t think anyone at all accepts that she is one now, but it’s interesting how in just a few short years she’s transitioned from playing a conservative on TV to being no different from AOC.

  28. AndrewR says:
    @JohnnyWalker123

    Imagine if Trump were as badass as his enemies claim he is.

    The reason the Jewish left fears him so much is because he is, unquestionably, the most successful demagogue in US history. In fact I would go so far as to say that he’s second only to the Austrian painter in Western history, if not world history. The problem of course is that his loyalties are the very opposite of Uncle A, whose feet Trump (who not only married his daughter to a Jew but encouraged her to convert to Judaism) would not deserve to kiss. But leftist Jews, lacking in any self-awareness, don’t understand that. So they treat him as the second coming of Hitler.

    What I will concede to them is that Trunp has such a large, passionate following that one tweet from him could theoretically result in the end of the Jewish presence in the US. But that will never, ever, ever happen because he is one of them in all but pedigree.

    • Replies: @vinteuil
    , @Curle
  29. jim jones says:

    I assume Trump knew all this stuff would happen and has an army of lawyers ready to sort things out

  30. AndrewR says:
    @Hibernian

    AOC is half her age, at least somewhat attractive, and not a Jewish supremacist. So no, they are quite different.

    • Replies: @GoRedWings!
  31. Anonymous[140] • Disclaimer says:

    This is the kind of Jews that GOP lionized as ‘fellow conservatives’.

    Meanwhile, WMD liars and Russia Collusion hoaxers are rewarded and invited to galas.

    Will there be Whitexit from Jewish Supremacism?

    • Replies: @ATBOTL
  32. Jake says:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    When the Soviet block fell, the West decided not to put anyone 0n trial, not to try Marxism and condemn it as we did condemn German National Socialist Worker’s Partyism (Nazism). And that guaranteed that Marxism was given new life, with an infusion of native Western Liberalism.

    Now why would the West do that?

  33. Svevlad says:

    These literal morons are below roach tier. Do they want a parallel society to emerge? State-within-a-state? It’s one thing to infiltrate booglords and other cringeoids, another to, uh, dominate the entire rural population that thinks as one

  34. OT: The NY Times is (exactly as expected) now beginning to turn against the lockdown/shutdown pandemic mania it created:

    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/11/06/nyregion/nyc-remote-learning.html

    Leaving children to teach themselves from a sofa might be the greatest untold tragedy of the pandemic.

    How many weeks (days?) after Biden’s inauguration will Covid-19 be memory-holed?

  35. Hibernian says:

    AOC insists that the L. P. deserves no credit for the obviously very narrow victory, and should give any leftover money to the Left. However, she’s “open” to “evidence” that they made a difference:

    https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/aoc-calls-on-lincoln-project-to-take-the-l-and-give-fundraising-to-grassroots-organizers

  36. El Dato says:
    @Hibernian

    However, she’s “open” to “evidence” that they made a difference

    She’s always been very magnanimous.

  37. B36 says:
    @Twinkie

    She has a weird history. She used to contribute to the conservative Jewish magazine Commentary and blogged there on a daily basis and was rabidly anti-Obama. Then taken up by Wapo as a token conservative but became not only rabidly anti-Trump but anti-Republican. Her tweets so often have a strange, extreme quality, suggesting actual mental illness.

  38. @Hibernian

    There will be a lot less easy-grift money around now that Trump is gone, so the competition for them among grifters will become more intense.

  39. “If you back down now, we’ll make you regret it. Please back down.”

    • Agree: Cortes
  40. Dear Ms. Rubin: Those of us who dare to think independent thoughts are well aware that people like you keep lists, and frankly I wouldn’t want to be anywhere else.

    And I’m well aware that preventing us from earning a living is among the least malicious of your plans.

    • Agree: V. K. Ovelund
  41. Here’s a short list of war mongering grifters, who advocated every stupid middle eastern war and got rich by pretending to be conservative republicans.

    Bill Kristol, Max Boot, and Jennifer Rubin.

    • Agree: TontoBubbaGoldstein
    • Replies: @JimDandy
  42. I don’t read Candace Owens and I’m not on Facebook, but this still seems like a good thing:

    Candace Owens sues Facebook fact-checkers for defamation: ‘I’m sick of the censorship’

    https://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/nov/6/candace-owens-sues-facebook-fact-checkers-defamati/

  43. Jennifer Rubin: Making 110ers look sane.

  44. How’s that Great Moderation thing working out?

    Seems like every bit of weakness shown to this crowd invites another humiliating attack. Another step toward an Orwellian society.

    I get that they’re Really Smart and done good on the SAT. That impresses an HBD’r. But they actually strike me as rather stupid head cases with cruel souls.

  45. Ano says:

    Dear iSteve Readers,

    Now available, after the successful smuggling of a samizdat manuscript… out of a country ruled by an oppressive One Party State which crushes all dissent…

    …and now published in that country of god-given liberty and free-speech rights….

    …Russia…

    One Day in the Life of Stefan Sailerovich

    Read of this brave and talented writer’s gulag experiences after he falls victim to one of Uncle Joennifer Ralin’s purges.

    Order now!

    NB: Banned in the USSA

    • LOL: Voltarde
  46. You might want to take note Steve that Jenni used to be the “conservative” on the Washington Compost… along with that other “conservative” George Will.

  47. tyrone says:
    @Rob McX

    If living like a dog suits you ,yes.

  48. Anonymous[215] • Disclaimer says:

    On immigration, the issue that ultimately decides all others, Trump gets at best a C from me:

    -While Trump has only constructed about 9 miles of border fencing where none existed before, he has replaced close to 4o0 miles of dilapidated fencing and “vehicle” barriers (i.e. crisscross fencing of maybe 5 feet in height that anyone who’s not an invalid could climb over) with “pedestrian” fencing (18-30 ft tall fencing that when scaled would cause serious injury or worse if someone tried shimmying down the other side).

    -No challenge to the practice of awarding citizenship to basically any child born on US soil. He kept teasing an EO on the anchor baby situation but as Ann Coulter has quipped, either all the pens at the WH were out of ink or Trump had permanent writer’s cramp. How long would it have taken for Steven Miller to write up a carefully worded EO and for Trump to scribble his name on it?! It’s one of the most outrageous flaws in our immigration system and it was a huuuge letdown from Trump not to have taken action on this.

    We can only hope that Covid stretches into 2022 (as some are predicting) and Biden will be forced to keep a lid on legal immigration as a result. I vividly remember earlier this year when uber-liberal Canadian PM Justin Trudeau announced he was closing that country’s borders due to Covid while our country still hadn’t shut down immigration. I remember thinking to myself, “What the hell is Trump waiting for?! Even Trudeau has closed his borders, when are we gonna get some action from this president?!” Finally Trump halted immigration, but I guarantee if there was no Covid we’d still be accepting mass legal immigration right at this moment.

    -T

    • Replies: @Richard A.
    , @Peterike
  49. Make no mistake. This is ideological preparation for actual mass executions, starting with the federal civil service, then the military.

  50. We have a list.

    “We”, who, Paleface?

  51. Jack D says:

    The proper role of Republicans in American society is to be gracious losers. McCain (especially because he is dead), Dole (BTW still kicking at 97, 75 years after he was left for dead on the battlefield), Romney – these are Republicans who were detested and deemed deplorable when they were running but now Democrats have strange new respect for them because they were such gracious losers. The only thing better than Republican graciously conceding defeat after the election is for Republicans to graciously concede defeat BEFORE the election. Sure they should go thru the motions of an election so that we can pretend to have a democratic system but they should know going in that they are the designated losers and that the future of America belongs to vibrant Black-Indian mulattoes. That kind of Republican is OK – you might even invite him or her to a cocktail party or give her a job on your editorial board. The bad kind of Republican you would never invite any more than you’d invite some guy who would talk your ear off about Jesus and dead babies. Ick!

    The Democrats are supposed to be the Globetrotters and the R’s are supposed to be the Washington Generals. When the Generals win that upsets the natural order of the universe so if the are ahead when the clock is running down they are supposed to back off and let the Globetrotters score some points for the win.

  52. @Elmer T. Jones

    When I look at AOC I see piles of spectacles and human hair.

    She has a face that would frighten small children.

    [MORE]

  53. Trinity says:

    Jennifer (((Count Every Vote))) Rubin.

    EVERY SINGLE TIME.

    • Agree: Kolya Krassotkin
  54. anon[427] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jack D

    Everyone always loved basketball in North Korea, everyone.
    I like gracious, it keeps my head up and I didn’t have to compromise with the devil. Somehow going all wacky is such a leftist thing to do.

  55. Bugg says:

    Ms. Rubin must be a real joy at parties. Couple drinks, and the jokes about white trash, rednecks and Christians come right out.

    Newsflash to Rubin, Kristol, Frum et al; they hate you too. And they don’t respect you. You are the useful idiots your Soviet forebears told us all about.

  56. It is interesting how quickly the Democrat leadership has embraced totalitarian tactics. There used to be nods to democratic procedure, and minority views. Even Bill Clinton’s call to make abortion “safe,legal, and rare” was an attempt to placate values voters. (A complete lie, but still an attempt.)

    Now? When moderate Dems complain that the Squad and socialism and DIE have lost them their seats, Pelosi et al. just laugh “suck it up bitch”. Instead of saying we will tramp out vote fraud (even if they won’t), they say no vote fraud exists, or ever will, you racist. No matter how often someone can show the transcript of Trump mentioning “fine people on both sides” referring to statues, not neo-Nazis, the deep lie is repeated, and repeated, and repeated again. The Big Lie is a normal part of ruling discourse now. Russians stole the last election because We Say So.

    Obama changed much of this. He offered the typically shallow argument to the press that equal space not be given to your opponent if they are lying. And the typically lazy press embraced this and ran with it. Now there’s complete bans on suggesting voter fraud and warning labels on any story in which a Republican hints at such fraud.

    And who knows, maybe Trump made it worse with his lazy rhetoric and combative behavior. I believe NeverTrumpers simply think they’ll be eaten last, but it is clear Trump had his flaws.

    America was always going to be in a hard spot preserving traditional liberty with the demographic trends creating an ungodly alliance of white hipsters and nonwhite masses. But the new rhetoric, if it holds with Sleepy Joe in charge, suggests a free fall into shithole status a lot quicker than many foresaw.

  57. And then, for no reason at all, the people elected Hitler.

  58. anonymous[124] • Disclaimer says:

    O/T —

    The president of Macalester College was criticized this week after offering financial assistance to “any currently enrolled student who participates in civil disobedience and needs help with bail or a fine.” https://t.co/ehqobqgeMY— Alpha News (@AlphaNewsMN) November 7, 2020

  59. Don’t kid yourselves. They’ve always had a list.
    Nowadays, “lists” are easily compiled based on Facebook/Google/Apple/ADL advert profiles.

    Funny thing is the “lists” and implied cancellation threat doesn’t quite translate come secret-ballot election time. So, look for them to target that next. We can’t have such hidden contempt of the establishment exposed every four years!

    • Replies: @Corn
    , @anon
  60. Russ says:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Somehow people like Jennifer Rubin and yes, even AOC, do not scare me in the way that guys from the Gestapo or E. German Stasi would have

    Well, the latter brought a more immediate sense of urgency and extreme unction to bear. The Stalinettas (and it took JRubin only 1-2 days to join that clique) surely aspire to it, though.

  61. Ganderson says:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    “Vat iss zhiss man do-ink hier?“

    • Thanks: Achmed E. Newman
    • LOL: bruce county
  62. Anonymous[226] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jack D

    Sure they should go thru the motions of an election so that we can pretend to have a democratic system but they should know going in that they are the designated losers and that the future of America belongs to vibrant Black-Indian mulattoes.

    Do you not think we have a democratic system? Please explain.

  63. El Dato says:

    Already entering Contempt Tunnel, and, yes, Leanr2Code is back:

    What can Biden do for unemployed retail workers? Former Chicago mayor savaged for suggesting they ‘become computer coders’

    Are books with whiteist covers like this still allowed?

    • Replies: @MEH 0910
  64. pirelli says:

    Lol. My favorite is the “or be accepted in ‘polite’ society” part. It’s fascinating (a) how unabashedly classist that remark is, (b) how it assumes she and her ilk hold the keys to “polite society,” and (c) how it illustrates that she’s not the least bit concerned with hiding (b), instead she’s flaunting it. It’s as though she’s saying, “in case any of you redneck trailer trash were gullible enough to think that attitudes had changed even a bit since Hillary’s ‘deplorables’ comments…” Damn does this country need an injection of populism, and not the pansy assed left wing variety.

    Of course the comments about office and corporate boards would be more disturbing than the “polite society” ones if they were actually to become enforceable, but the “polite society” stood out to me because it’s pretty much true that they can control that.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  65. anon[316] • Disclaimer says:

    If the winners of an election are against free speech, against open debate, against honest voting, and against the rule of law, do people who believe in democracy have to respect the outcome of the election?
    Do people who believe in the rule of law have to obey their laws?

    • Replies: @ben tillman
  66. @Achmed E. Newman

    We’re keeping a list
    And checking it twice
    When the people arise
    Yer a-gonna git iced
    Popular revolt is coming to town!

    Hire alleged conservatives like Rubin
    To putatively balance out Toobin
    But us rubes just aren’t fooled
    ‘Cause our blogs are all pooled
    Deep-staters, all, in history’s dustbin.

    • Replies: @Father O'Hara
  67. If Trump ends up losing he should pardon Rittenhouse, Fields, Assange and Snowden. Also those Proud Boys in NY who Cuomo railroaded. And just for good measure why not pardon every murderer from the city of Filthadelphia? Show them what it’s like.

    • Agree: black sea
    • Replies: @Tom Jackson
    , @Flip
  68. “Any R now promoting rejection of an election or calling to not to follow the will of voters or making baseless allegations of fraud should never serve in office, join a corporate board, find a faculty position or be accepted into “polite” society. We have a list.”

    Laughing. That’s rich after the last four years of democratic refusal to acknowledge the previous election.

    I will be waiting for those liberal and democratic resignations.
    ———————————–

    I am surprised she didn’t call for summary executions.

  69. Jennifer Rubin’s comment sounds as if she is trying to curry favor with the Democratic Overlords who control all of those positions now anyway. In a post Trump world she has to self-abase and separate from the Yahoos she was supposedly part of in order to work in the new landscape. Of course, she is just coming home but she still needs to atone.

    It is probably better for both sides anyway. The Republicans will go through their own purges cleaning up their party and the Lenin Project-Russia Russia-Russia-neo cons will be the ones shown the door. I think our country will look internally for a while and Israel First types really do not have much to offer us not that they ever did.

    She may have spoken too soon. Whatever fraud was committed in this election, and past ones as well both here and abroad, will be pulled out in granular detail in time. This is not something that will be settled quickly and then swept under the rug much like she probably wishes. Whatever the left gains from this election, they will pay for it dearly in time, not out of vengeance but through the loss of goodwill so her days of playing both sides have ended anyway.

    It will be interesting to see how many other ‘Republicans’ stray from the pale of twitter / FB. Some of us will refuse to submit or see no need to live there anyway but others like Rubin, will run for cover looking for protection from the thought barbarians roaming the wider world.

  70. Gc says:

    Seems like an illegal personal register to me. In Europe that kind of list would be illegal.
    “Personal information may only be handled for specified and justifiable goals. Collected information may only be used for the purpose, for which it was collected. Personal information must be correct and up-to-date and must not be kept longer time than needed for the purpose of the collection.
    Personal information may only be handled with permission from the person, whose information is handled, or for certain other justified uses.” https://people.dsv.su.se/~jpalme/society/personal-register-law.html

  71. Gc says:
    @JohnnyWalker123

    “I attended the meetings of all…parties, from the communists to the nationalists; at one of the democratic meetings in Friedenau [Berlin], where the former Colonial Minister, a Jew by the name of Dernburg, was speaking, I experienced the following: this Jew had the audacity to say, among other things: ‘What are the Germans actually capable of; maybe breeding rabbits.’

    “Dear readers, do not think that the heavily represented stronger sex jumped up and told this Jew where to go. Far from it. Not one man made a sound, they stayed dead quiet. However, a miserable, frail little woman from the so-called ‘weaker sex’ raised her hand and forcefully rejected the Jew’s brazen remarks; he had in the meantime allegedly disappeared to attend another meeting.”
    https://scroll.in/article/959951/why-i-became-a-nazi-essays-from-1934-highlight-womens-role-in-the-rise-of-hitler

    • Thanks: AndrewR
  72. @Jack D

    Hard to be a Republican martyr when the Republicans have controlled the Senate for over a decade, control the SC, and have Governors in 26 of 50 states. The American people appear to have rejected Trump, not the GOP. The result certainly doesn’t look like a Democratic conspiracy. A Deep State conspiracy maybe, but with active Republican Party collaboration. Trump is not a life-long card carrying GOP member and the party leadership has never forgiven him for hijacking their party.

    • Replies: @Matt Buckalew
    , @Ragno
  73. @Rob McX

    You’re safe from Alexandria “Stalin” Overt-Communist . . . for now:
    AOC calls to compile “lists” of Trump supporters, punish them for “complicity”
    https://theduran.com/aoc-calls-to-compile-lists-of-trump-supporters-punish-them-for-complicity/

    Occasional-Cortex
    Obstetric-Concussion
    Occluded-Cognition
    Oxygen-Constriction
    1Oxygen, 1-Carbon
    Offer-Cyanide
    Outlaws-Cis
    Altreality Dunning-Kruger

  74. What’s next, having our ID converted to bar code and tattooed on the forehead?

  75. Anon[168] • Disclaimer says:

    Well, there’s this “list” website, linked to by Dreher:

    https://www.trumpaccountability.net

    Anonymous website. The three major atrocities of the Trump administration are listed:

    1. Separating children from families, i.e., minors held separately from parents or accompanying adults at Mexican border when refugee status claimed.

    2. Encouraging racism and anti-Semitism, no details provided. Do the NY black attacks against Jews count?

    3. Coronavirus life and economic losses, blamed on Trump. I love that they don’t limit it to lives lost and include the economic loss … since trying to improve one worsens the other, can’t win. Cuomo and De Blasio go unmentioned, although I don’t blame anything on them either. It’s an act of God. But two points: Trump closed the border to China, but had he tried to quarantine the NY metro area, what would have happened? We kind of know, because Cuomo threatened to sue adjacent states who wanted to prevent New Yorkers from fleeling there from NYC.

    Good grief, these are the top three? That’s the best they can do?

    =====

    OT

    I like Dick Cavett, but he is kind of a little snot-nosed smartass sometimes, as in this interview with Enoch Powell, who politely shuts Cavett down:

    Powell really comes across as reasonable. He says large, sudden immigration of people from a different culture will result in a lack of assimilation.

    British public intellectual Jonathan Miller is the left-wing guest. It’s astounding how civilized these two sides could be debated back then, pre-deplatforming. Miller seems to be outgunned by Powell.

    • Replies: @Lot
  76. Jennifer “These Hot Flashes are Making Me Batshit Crazy” Rubin.

  77. @Jack D

    That kind of Republican is OK – you might even invite him or her to a cocktail party or give her a job on your editorial board.

    …..or share a cough drop or even praise his shitty artwork

    • Replies: @Dan Hayes
    , @Harry Baldwin
  78. Thoughts says:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    They should scare you.

    AOC is the face of a group of men who casted her after a huge nationwide audition

    Rubin has male relatives, maybe even a husband.

    Women don’t talk like this unless they have men backing them with something Worse.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  79. Trump supporters, standing outside of vote counting sites, need to be gathering signatures for recall petitions.

    Any GOP, state lawmaker who will vote to certify the DEM slate of presidential electors should expect to be recalled by February.

    • Thanks: Gary in Gramercy
  80. Toast!

    Now the only question remaining is whether Trump and his family will be relocating to Brazil or Ecuador.

    And the Republican party can get back to thinking up some good ideas on how to make America great again, or at least slow down its decline.

    And America can be welcomed back into the international community.

  81. bigduke6 says:
    @Jonathan Mason

    Trump Derangement Syndrome is a legitimate mental illness, and I have never cared what the mentally ill have to say about politics.

    • Agree: bruce county
  82. @Jack D

    Boo-boo! Maybe the Republicans need to go back and retool their policies and come up with some ideas that will appeal to more people.

    Comprehensive healthcare insurance reform for the working population is an obvious case in point. I totally agree that Obamacare is a piece of s***, but where are the ideas put a state of the art system for financing healthcare that will make America the Envy of the world?

    How about America taking a leadership role in combating contagious diseases?

    • Agree: Rob
    • Disagree: Abolish_public_education
  83. @Peter Akuleyev

    In what year did the republicans take control of the senate in your dorky virgin universe.

    • Replies: @pirelli
    , @Peter Akuleyev
  84. Jack D says:
    @Jonathan Mason

    And America can be welcomed back into the international community.

    I don’t want to belong to any club that would have me as a member! – Groucho Marx

    • LOL: Corn, Redneck farmer
    • Replies: @Jonathan Mason
  85. bigduke6 says:

    Does any journalist come off as seriously unhinged on Twitter as often as Rubin does?

    • Disagree: V. Hickel
  86. @Jonathan Mason

    Nah obstructionism, acting like shit heads, and bat shit conspiracy theorizing paid off for the Dems I’m finna get my some of dat. And I can be a world class shit head.

  87. Forbes says:
    @Twinkie

    She is supposed to be the token conservative at NYT WaPo. Hilarious.

    Fixed.

    Possibly, a distinction without a difference…

    WaPo collects token conservatives, e.g. George Will, Michael Gerson.

  88. anon[382] • Disclaimer says:

    “Count every vote” is not the same as “count every legit vote” and (((Jennifer Rubin))) knows it.

    “Count every fake vote until we win” is tyranny. It’s Joe Stalin approved.

  89. anon215 says:

    Always use a VPN, or something like Whonix or Tails Linux, while on the internet.

  90. OT

    https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/trump-maga-banner-goodison-everton-manchester-united-b54980.html

    A plane carrying the message “World knows Trump won #MAGA” was spotted flying over Goodison Park ahead of the Premier League match between Everton and Manchester United.

    The banner grabbed the attention of club staff and journalists inside the 39,000-capacity stadium before the Saturday lunch-time kick-off.

    It appeared to call into question the result of the US election which was leaning heavily towards Mr Trump’s Democratic rival Joe Biden as votes continued to be counted in a handful of battleground states.

    • Thanks: Voltarde
    • Replies: @Mike Tre
    , @Sollipsist
  91. @Achmed E. Newman

    I think it’s because there aren’t any of those highly effective power-hungry sociopaths like Stalin in their ranks. But, of concern, just because that type isn’t there yet doesn’t mean they won’t ever be. Enough unchecked power attracts a certain type of person.

  92. Forbes says:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    They’re certainly not scary like the Gestapo or the STASI, yet the sheer hatred expressed in such rantings could result in some whoop-ass being visited upon them.

    A polity requires general agreement about comity–such expressions as Rubin’s might be seen as inviting the Golden Rule of reciprocity–doing to her what she wishes for you.

  93. Sure, but did you check it twice?

  94. Anon[449] • Disclaimer says:

    Has the Biden presidency been proclaimed by the media, or by the appropriate authority, like the Electoral College? Sincere question from a non-American.

    • Replies: @anon
    , @another fred
  95. Anon7 says:

    Speaking of lists, is it too early to discuss when Trump should work with Senate leaders (still Republicans) and put in place a Special Prosecutor to investigate Joe Biden and the Biden Family crime syndicate?

    Regardless of the outcome of the election, but especially if Trump loses, I’d love to hear about the investigation, which might produce a report in 2023.

    • Agree: TontoBubbaGoldstein
    • Replies: @Prof. Woland
  96. @Jack D

    LOL. I guess it is no longer held to be self-evident that all people are created equal. It was always a ridiculous idea, wasn’t it?

    The trouble is that if Americans think they are better than everybody else, then it is hard to deny everybody else the right to think that they are better than Americans, which is what some of those deluded people like those rascally Iranians want to do.

    On the other hand if we just pretend that everybody is equal, then at least we can come to some sort of international agreements to tolerate each other’s way of life without killing each other, as human beings have been doing for thousands of years.

    I read an article the other day that claimed that Neanderthal man and Homo sapiens had a bloody civil war going on for 100,000 years. I don’t know if it’s true, but it could be.

    • Agree: dfordoom
    • Replies: @Faraday's Bobcat
    , @Lot
  97. Bugg says:
    @Jonathan Mason

    Enterprise zones and capital gains tax cuts!

  98. Anonymous[149] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jonathan Mason

    No offense but your international community is shi’ite lately as well. Seen any recent headlines from Vienna and Nice?

  99. JimDandy says:
    @Jack D

    That was an open goad about Jewish power. You should be appalled.

    • Replies: @Jack D
  100. Anonymous[149] • Disclaimer says:
    @Hibernian

    When you said “L.P.” for a moment I thought you meant Libertarian Party.

    In the 90s and peaking in November 2000 there was this meme that libertoids and Ralph Nader were costing their supposed partner major parties in close elections, blah blah. Nobody says this any more because it’s clear that any libertoids who vote are more autistic preeners who probably wouldn’t have voted for either Dem or Rep and are just grandstanding their own “conscience” (the non-autists by contrast simply don’t bother to vote at all).

    But ya don’t hear it these days, much. I notice the Libertarian Party bum-of-the-month in Arkansas U.S. Senate did pretty well for a Libertarian but not in contrast to the guy who won.

    • Replies: @Currahee
  101. Dumbo says:
    @Jonathan Mason

    Maybe the Republicans need to go back and retool their policies and come up with some ideas that will appeal to more people.

    So… What’s the appeal and the great idea of Biden / Democrats? “Fighting systemic racism”?
    If you are white and you voted for Biden, you are an idiot, that’s all.

    that will make America the Envy of the world?

    America was the envy of the world from 1914-1969. Very hard to make that again with current demographics. More likely, it will become more and more the laughingstock of the world.

    How about America taking a leadership role in combating contagious diseases?

    LOL. You must be one of those fools who believe everything they say about the “coronavirus”? Well, the leadership role is China. It seems they ended the “pandemic” in Wuhan, 100%. And since Dems and China are very close, at least since Clinton in the 90s, maybe they can get the recipe from them…

  102. @Achmed E. Newman

    They don’t scare me either. Just dumb broads, 2020 version repackaged as woke over-produced elite women of colour.

    Who does scare me? The elite globalists, the shadowy cabal behind joe/Kamala, the ones with the true power.

  103. Anonymous[226] • Disclaimer says:

    Van Jones breaks down crying on camera after Biden declared winner, cites DREAMERS, George Floyd.

    https://www.mediaite.com/election-2020/watch-van-jones-breaks-down-in-tears-on-cnn-in-emotional-reaction-to-biden-call/

    • Replies: @bruce county
  104. @Jonathan Mason

    Jesus H. Christ, you are one obnoxious troll.

    Boo-boo! Maybe the Republicans need to go back and retool their policies and come up with some ideas that will appeal to more people.

    The people who vote for Democrats want the following things:

    * free shit
    * more free shit
    * still more free shit

    The people who vote for Republicans are the ones who are going to have to pay for it.

    Comprehensive healthcare insurance reform for the working population is an obvious case in point.

    Our leaders don’t give a shit about the white working class. The Democrats’ platform for these people is “Fuck off and die, racist scum!”

    Illegals and dindus already get free health care through Medicaid and their friendly local emergency room.

    You seriously don’t get it, do you? You can’t build a First World society with Third World people.

  105. Anonymous[104] • Disclaimer says:

    There were some great other examples cited in this Instapundit op-ed 2 days ago:
    https://nypost.com/2020/11/05/the-left-is-again-showing-that-it-cant-stand-anyone-who-disagrees/

    Do right-winger a ever write this kind of thing like his New Republic example? There is such a huge cost for verging on ethnic-cleansing rhetoric if not liberal, that liberals seem to be forgetting they shouldn’t brooch it either.

  106. Anon[168] • Disclaimer says:

    I read an article the other day that claimed that Neanderthal man and Homo sapiens had a bloody civil war going on for 100,000 years.

    I don’t think “Neanderthal Man” was some sort of coherent group or tribe or nation that had a self image of being “us” against “Homo sapiens,” who likewise were not a coherent tribe. Both species were a bunch of separated hunter gatherer groups, less than 200 people each if we can judge from modern hunter gatherers, and I’m sure they got into local turf wars and killed each other, inter- and intraspecies, and for some reason Homo sapiens survived, but it was hardly “a civil war,” and the 100,000 year time span you mention makes it even more ludicrous. How could millions of separate little battles by tribes with no knowledge of the other tribes over that length of time be characterized as a war?

  107. @Jonathan Mason

    LOL now you Brits get a President who’s friends with Gerry Adams and Rita O’Hare. Biden will probably hold a state dinner for Gerry, ban orange clothing on 3/17 and hold up a trade deal with Cuck Island pending a united Ireland. Enjoy!

  108. Good Lord, the amount of astroturf shilling here and on 4chan is absolutely incredible, never seen such a thing in my life.

    How much are they spending on this? Must be equal to the GDP of a small nation.

    I guess they realize they have everything riding on this, and if they don’t bluster and browbeat everyone right now Trump will be president in January.

    Good luck to Trump.

  109. MEH 0910 says:
    @Twinkie

    She is supposed to be the token conservative at NYT.

    No, the deranged hag writes for The Washington Post:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jennifer_Rubin_(columnist)

    Jennifer Rubin (born 1961/1962) is an American political commentator who writes opinion columns for The Washington Post. Previously she worked at Commentary, PJ Media, Human Events, and The Weekly Standard. Her work has been published in media outlets including Politico, New York Post, New York Daily News, National Review, and The Jerusalem Post. In September 2020, Rubin announced that she no longer identified as a conservative.[2]

    My Twitter blurb used to describe me as a “conservative opinion writer.” Now it reads: “NeverTrump, pro-democracy opinion writer.” Why the change?

    Let’s be honest: There is no conservative movement or party today. There is a Republican Party thoroughly infused with racism and intellectually corrupted by right-wing nationalism. But there is no party that believes in less or small government (though expect the GOP to hypocritically resume singing that tune as soon as a Democrat steps into the Oval Office).

    If you say you are a staunch defender of the rule of law, that you are devoted to ending systematic racism, that you are an advocate of legal immigration, that you believe in objective reality (including climate change science) and that you think illiberal regimes such as Russia are our greatest foreign threat, the party of Trump will lash out at you. They will accuse you of Trump derangement syndrome and dub you a “fake” conservative. Well, they have a point. Because conservatives no longer seem to champion any of those positions (or free trade or American international leadership or NATO), it is hard to say I fit in any longer.
    […]
    There is a healthy debate about whether Republicans were always racist frauds. My friend Stuart Stevens has a strong case to make that they were. Others claim Trump took that marginal element in the GOP and made it dominant. While I continue to believe that decent, honorable conservatives such as George H.W. Bush, John McCain and, yes, Sen. Mitt Romney (R-Utah) were or are sincere patriots, I am forced to concede the racist, xenophobic and anti-intellectual element in the party was far more pronounced than I was willing to admit.

    • Replies: @Muggles
    , @Hypnotoad666
    , @ATBOTL
  110. The swamp is burbling its approval of the swamp-thing president-elect. All over Northwest DC this afternoon, cars are tooting horns and pedestrians are banging pots and pans in celebration of the wicked witch of the West being dead. You never saw such middle-class extroverted joy over a World Series or Super Bowl win, even when DC had one.

  111. Don’t we have something called the 2nd Amendment to protect us from such a situation?

    • Replies: @Joe Stalin
  112. anon[101] • Disclaimer says:

    Jennifer Rubin is such a loathsome individual. I wish I had more to say about that, but everything I could say would be better said by someone else.

    What I can contribute is the odd bit of trivia that this Jennifer Rubin was born in the same year as the actress Jennifer Rubin. That Jennifer Rubin played Edie Sedgwick in The Doors and the drug addict girl in Nightmare On Elm Street 3 and a few other minor roles.

    Find a recent picture of them both. Rubin the actress looks about twenty years younger. Granted, she started off more attractive to begin with, but the actress Rubin is all smiles and happiness, whereas the columnist Rubin is a wizened crone whose only purpose seems to be to provide an explanation for Jewish mens’ fascination with shiksas. She’s just a ball of bitterness and nastiness, and it shows.

    Being this awful of a human being ages you.

  113. anon[101] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jonathan Mason

    And America can be welcomed back into the international community.

    Aren’t you from that place that has Boris Johnson as Prime Minister?

    • Replies: @Jonathan Mason
  114. @Jonathan Mason

    On the other hand if we just pretend that everybody is equal, then at least we can come to some sort of international agreements to tolerate each other’s way of life without killing each other, as human beings have been doing for thousands of years.

    Who did better at international agreements, Obama or Trump?

  115. Lot says:
    @Jonathan Mason

    “ I guess it is no longer held to be self-evident that all people are created equal. ”

    It’s all men, not all people, and it was a rhetorical flourish before noting an equality of negative political rights.

    I believe TJ and Ben would agree, if they had the benefit of our modern science and statistics, that there is a large inequality of talents among the races, and the natural order is for the more intelligent, creative and energetic to rule, in a firm but enlightened manner.

    • Replies: @Jonathan Mason
    , @ATBOTL
  116. Anon[373] • Disclaimer says:

    I’ve read bits and pieces on France after WWII, and what happened to “collaborators” who often just basically lived their lives during the Nazi occupation, but is there a good book on this? My impression is that anyone who was not risking his life in some sort of armed sabotage operation was not pure enough and had to be punished. From the point of view of the left, Trump was Hitler, so I think they’re thinking along these lines, and hilariously some of them may be eventually caught up in the revenge as the circle of purity shrinks.

    On the other hand, it’s not like Biden is really in complete power. He’ll be just another executive order president.

    • Replies: @Kolya Krassotkin
  117. She is engaging in genocide. Half the plan is to concentrate resources in the Left’s hands. The other half is to boycott dissenters to death.

    • Replies: @ben tillman
  118. Kylie says:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Achmed E. Newman, I have always respected you and enjoyed your comments–still do. But with all due respect, I’m not sure you get it. The left didn’t get this far by relying on firepower or conventional weaponry. They took over the system, removed the elements that allowed it to function as originally intended and substituted their own insane elements. Thus, equality of opportunity becomes equality of outcome, equality becomes equity, etc.

    Yes, I know if it came to fists or firearms, you would prevail. But it won’t. She and her ilk will do everything to bring you to your knees and keep you there by any non-violent means necessary. Fists and firearms won’t matter if your house is seized, your assets frozen, your employment terminated.

    You think it can’t get that bad? Did you ever think it would get this bad?

  119. @ben tillman

    She’s also violating 18 USC 241, which should get her 10 years in prison, but there will be no prosecution because the government is conspiring with her.

    • Replies: @Rosie
    , @res
  120. @Hibernian

    She’s a chosenite. “Conservatism” to them just means liberalism plus cheerleading for never-ending wars in the middle east in support of israel.

  121. @Kylie

    Once again, the Republicans won this election.

    Trump lost, the left also lost, the GOP won. We are not facing a socialist future. We are facing a globalist corporatist future of greater inequality dominated by tech billionaires and a small multi-racial elite. No one is going to lose their guns, no one is going to lose their freedom to bitch (impotently) about the government, but many people will lose the opportunity to have a job and lifestyle that provides them a modicum of dignity. Very ambitious talented people from lower classes will still have the opportunity to climb over their exhausted entertainment-addicted peers and vault themselves into that elite. Whether you personally will be a loser or winner in the future now depends on you.

    • Agree: AKAHorace
    • Replies: @Lot
    , @ben tillman
    , @bomag
  122. Anon[200] • Disclaimer says:

    donald trump lost America won

    You are giving comfort to the enemies of the United States when you baselessly question the validity of our elections.

    You make your choice DEAL WITH THE CONSEQUENCES

    JUSTICE IS ABOUT TO COME FOR THE EVILDOERS HARD AND FAST

  123. anon[180] • Disclaimer says:

    o/t — Is the Donald re-branding?

    President Trump was golfing when the race was called https://t.co/rUWdGGjDZE— New York Magazine (@NYMag) November 7, 2020

  124. Muggles says:
    @MEH 0910

    Rubin is a “conservative” for WaPo like she would have been a Trotskyite in the USSR circa 1925.

    But by 1928 she would have dropped that reference.

    By 1935 she would be gulag-ed or buried in an NKVD courtyard.

    Who knows what will happen to her now?

    (The original commies were masters of “controlled opposition” when they needed them. When they no longer needed them, these fake oppositionists were all mysteriously gone. Also like Rubin they kept extensive “lists” of who said what, when. )

  125. Stogumber says:

    Reminds to me the “listes noires” which the French Communists needed after 1945 for the sake of “épuration”.

  126. it’s what jews do in all countries they take over. but more generally, that’s just what you do to a conquered enemy.

    remember that thing where you can’t be fired for who you voted for? yeah, that’s over. they can’t turn off your electricity and water for political reasons? i wouldn’t count on that one anymore either.

    the republican party is a defeated enemy force, like the confederacy, like the national socialists. they’ll be treated as such. they’ll find out if you voted republican for years or donated to republicans, and have you fired, censored, and harassed.

    why wouldn’t they? republicans are rule following, orderly citizens and chumps. they’ll just take it.

    i posted about all this on here years ago.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  127. Anon[383] • Disclaimer says:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    “…AOC, do not scare me in the way that guys from the Gestapo or E. German Stasi would have“

    You ain’t seen nothin’ until you’ve seen the feminine version of Totalitarianism.

    CS Lewis already explained it:

    “Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron’s cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.”

    PS Why would anyone believe that AOC and her ilk wouldn’t employ Gestapo/Stasi types?

  128. Whites writing a Constitution for their own people is valid. Nobody questions Finland’s, Iceland’s, or Ireland’s.

    Imposing that Constitution on non-whites is thus white-supremacist by definition. As is imposing statutes written and enacted by whites under that Constitution, e.g., anti-FGM laws, upon them.

    If white supremacism is wrong, then the Constitution itself is obsolete in a multiracial empire population.

    Don’t tell me that “immigrants agree to play by our rules”. Their children born here did not. And whose is this “our”?

  129. @Elmer T. Jones

    When I look at AOC I see piles of spectacles and human hair.

    Don’t forget the gold teeth.

  130. Corn says:
    @BaylessHound

    Funny thing is the “lists” and implied cancellation threat doesn’t quite translate come secret-ballot election time. So, look for them to target that next. We can’t have such hidden contempt of the establishment exposed every four years!

    NYT, fall 2023: The Racist History of the Secret Ballot

  131. Anon7 says:

    The demonization of Donald Trump and everyone who served in his administration and EVERYONE who voted for him has borne fruit. The MANY FINE PEOPLE HOAX, which I heard repeated on NPR just days before the election, has borne fruit.

    I think it’s time to demand that Joe Biden denounce the hate-filled leftists who voted for him, who supported the looters and arsonists and rioters, and who now demand that a list be made of all people who supported Donald Trump so they can be targeted for reprisals. Or maybe we should just tar Joe Biden with the same brush, and declare him to be a hate-filled leftist, if he refuses to explicitly denounce them.

    By extension, of course, all of the Democrats are hate-filled leftists, in the same way that all Republicans have been declared white supremacists and Nazis. Unless I hear specific disavowals.

    How about it, Joe? How about it, Democrats?

    • Agree: Dissident
    • Replies: @Seneca44
  132. Jack D says:
    @JimDandy

    Honi soit qui mal y pense.

    Steve didn’t mention Jews. You are projecting your own prejudices into this. By “we” Rubin did not mean the Jews.

    • Agree: Dissident
    • Replies: @V. K. Ovelund
    , @JimDandy
  133. @Anon

    You ain’t seen nothin’ until you’ve seen the feminine version of Totalitarianism.

    We already did. The Eighteenth Amendment was more popular with the ladies than the Nineteenth. 46 of 48 states ratified it, a record. Men cucked faster in the anti-suffrage South than anywhere else. So much for “states’ rights”!

    PS Why would anyone believe that AOC and her ilk wouldn’t employ Gestapo/Stasi types?

    A three-letter killer argument for Puerto Rican independence. Let her control her own tribesmen.

  134. @Jack D

    By “we” Rubin did not mean the Jews.

    Yes, she did.

  135. @Kylie

    Did you ever think it would get this bad?

    Yes, I did. I could see it going this way from 1995 on. That was the time I noted that nobody argued against DUI traffic stops anymore. (“What does that have to do with anything?” you may ask. That was the time Americans started not caring about the principles that kept this a free country for a long time. After that, it’s “just muh Constitution” – yeah, you people know who you are. Got a list myself, haha.) It progressed steadily worse since then. I gotta say that I didn’t think it would slide into the state we are in this quickly though, or that the stupidity level could possibly get this hight.

    You think it can’t get that bad?

    I have a little bit of faith left in the true Americans, the prepper types, the “survivalists”, and the Constitutionalists. There are a lot of people on the fence, just grilling out and waiting for sportsball to come on. They may get off the fence when they have less to lose. They will have less to lose pretty soon. This economy has been doomed for a long while, Trump or no Trump, Kung Flu PanicFest or not (the latter just sped it up a bit).

    You gotta realize that the modern-day Commies have just as little on the ball as the Commies of a century ago, or less. Their people behind it all (the Globalists et al) are more powerful than ever, but they don’t make anything, they don’t build anything, and they don’t have a couple of hundred million guns. We will prevail. Not everybody forgets.

    This is in reply to a number of repliers from that comment above, so I hope it helps.

  136. @prime noticer

    it’s what jews do in all countries they take over. but more generally, that’s just what you do to a conquered enemy.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epperson_v._Arkansas

  137. @Kylie

    BTW, my house would not go easily. (It’d likely have been sold to some future close friend before anything else happens.) I can live without my job, though I do like it. Assets are, let’s just say, fungible.

    Now if the rest of American would not just spend their time living paycheck-to-paycheck (even when making good money, as one of my family members can attest to – from his corporate workplace) and would get the hell ready, none of those threats would mean so much. I’ve got a post on this, Kylie – see “More on living paycheck-to-paycheck”.

    .

    Here was the original post that my link refers back to: “More on living paycheck-to-paycheck”..

    • Thanks: Kylie
  138. El Dato says:
    @JohnnyWalker123

    They actually didn’t even do that.

    Hitler had to be made Kanzler and receive rule-by-decree powers first.

    Also, judging from the fiesta in NYC, it seems like “V-Day Prez” is here. Make America Good Again!

    Does the lady with the mail server in her bathroom get to have a job in this administration?

  139. @Barnard

    OK, Barnard, and I don’t care about her, and I don’t care about those poor Republican office holders who won’t get those cushy jobs… They would surely deserve it for not standing up.

  140. V. Hickel says:
    @B36

    i wonder what it is about people like her, max boot, brooks, frum, that they drift back and forth between parties, coincidentally just when power is wbout to shift… i cant quite put my finger on it.

  141. @Anonymous

    More of their Trump as literal Hitler larping. They fantasize that it’s 1945 and that they are the “Resistance,” who now gets free rein to shoot all their political enemies and shave women’s heads and parade them through the streets.

    The only part that is historically the same is that the real Resistance was also 90% Stalinist stooges.

    • Agree: bomag
  142. anon[101] • Disclaimer says:
    @BaylessHound

    Don’t kid yourselves. They’ve always had a list.
    Nowadays, “lists” are easily compiled based on Facebook/Google/Apple/ADL advert profiles.

    I’m going to make a list of all the lists I’ve been put on.

  143. @Achmed E. Newman

    Put me on the list, bitch! I’m already not part of polite society. What’s the diff?

    The difference is the difference between life and death.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    , @bomag
  144. @BannedHipster

    Conservative Mom who voted for Trump? Maybe someone might call CPS to see if you are teaching your kids “white supremacy” and “transphobia.”

    It’s not coming … it’s already here. Already no conservatives are free to post conservative ideas on social media without risking their jobs.

    Your bank account is next, possibly your utilities if you own your own home. A China style “social credit score” is already here, but thanks to American capitalism, it’s privatized.

    Exactly.

  145. Kylie says:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Thanks for your reply. Yeah, actually I thought it could get this bad, too. But, like you, I didn’t think it would happen this fast. Or reach this level of stupidity.

    Do they have to make anything or build anything if they can force us to make, build and maintain things?

    I hope you are right and we do prevail. You have a good track record so far. You’ll forgive me if l go all clingy female and hold fast to that thought. 😉

    • Replies: @JimB
  146. Lot says:
    @Peter Akuleyev

    I don’t want to agree, but can’t dispute this.

    Current state of GOP gains:

    Related: Estonia has per capita the most cutting edge software and tech jobs in Europe, and also, by far, the highest rate of opiate addiction and HIV infection (from needles not sodomy).

  147. anon[213] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon

    Has the Biden presidency been proclaimed by the media,

    Media.

    or by the appropriate authority, like the Electoral College?

    EC won’t meet for weeks.

    Sincere question from a non-American.

    FYI, lawfare is going on right now in Pennsylvania and Nevada. Counting continues in AZ.

    The ride continues.

  148. @Anonymous

    Trump also failed to push for mandatory e-verify. H-2A and H-2B actually expanded under Trump.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  149. They really aren’t bothering to hide it anymore, are they?

  150. @Achmed E. Newman

    Put me on the list, bitch! I’m already not part of polite society. What’s the diff?

    Academics, journalists and the professional board member class are already a bunch of commie lackeys. When patriots are officially barred, the list of people in those categories can serve as “The List” in the event of an eventual Reconquista.

    Also, just for fun, I’d love to see someone organize vote by mail fraud to take out the squad in their primaries. AOC was originally elected by a pitiful 15,000 primary votes in her ultra-safe Dem district.

    How will she enjoy it when her election night majority in 2022 is erased by a couple boxes of harvested and/or fake ballots dumped in the wee hours in favor of the other guy.

    I would thoroughly enjoy seeing how the Democrats react to such shenanigans in their primaries now that they are dug in to their party line that there is no such thing as voter fraud.

    • Agree: bomag
  151. @A new commenter

    Trump should lift the GHWB ban on imported Assault Rifles and implement the ban on Birthright citizenship immediately upon the certification of Joe Biden winning the POTUS election.

    Yeah, JB will immediately re-implement the Ban on ARs, but then it will be longer be a Republican Ban, and the Anchor Baby millstone could be immediately attributed to Democrat Joe Biden.

    Let’s put as many markers in the dirt as we can so that JB has to immediately pull them out, ALL in name of the Democratic Party. Trump has absolutely nothing to loose then!

    DO IT.

  152. @Anonymous

    Jesus Christ, some one please get me a tissue……. and a double bourbon. STAT.

  153. Lot says:
    @Anon

    The video is painful to watch, knowing Western man had a choice to elect such men as Powell, and chose otherwise.

    • Agree: Chrisnonymous, Voltarde
  154. @B36

    “She has a weird history.”

    there’s nothing weird about it. Obama was a muslim sympathizer and not pro-jewish, not pro-Israel. thus, she hated him.

    Trump ostensibly represented the interests of the europeans. so, she hated him.

    it’s easy to understand once you put on the glasses.

  155. @Jack D

    The only thing better than Republican graciously conceding defeat after the election is for Republicans to graciously concede defeat BEFORE the election.

    Nice line, Jack.

  156. @Bard of Bumperstickers

    The chorus doesn’t need to be changed:

    He sees you when you’re sleeping

    He knows when you’re awake

    He knows if you’ve been good or bad

    So be good for goodness sake!

  157. @anon

    If the winners of an election are against free speech, against open debate, against honest voting, and against the rule of law, do people who believe in democracy have to respect the outcome of the election?
    Do people who believe in the rule of law have to obey their laws?

    No.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    , @MB
  158. Rosie says:
    @ben tillman

    She’s also violating 18 USC 241, which should get her 10 years in prison, but there will be no prosecution because the government is conspiring with her.

    Yes, this is what I was thinking of. Thank you. That there will be no consequences for her blatantly criminal threats and intimidation is, IMO, a clear indication that we are not in danger of descending into Civil War. Rather, we’re sort of already there. When a sitting member of Congress can say such a thing, you don’t really have the rule of law anymore. You’ve got a Cold Civil War and a captive population.

  159. J.Ross says:
    @ben tillman

    I haven’t got any ideas yet but ideas will come and fun will be had. There are just too many ways to mess with a drug addict who has never held a job and who does not know how anything works.
    Some lawsuits were thrown out but not every judge is bent and there are multiple enormous problems in every prematurely declared state. Lots of fighting ahead.

  160. res says:
    @ben tillman

    That’s a good one. Thanks. Here is the text.
    https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/241

    If I read that page correctly, it became law June 25, 1948. Any idea what drove it into becoming a law?

  161. Rosie says:
    @Anon

    Let’s see. On one hand you have:

    No Whiskey.

    On the other you have:

    Getting tortured in prison camps for dissidents.

    Yes, I can totally see where you’re coming from there. No contest!

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  162. @Achmed E. Newman

    That was the time I noted that nobody argued against DUI traffic stops anymore.

    Remember the jihad Mothers Against Drunk Driving waged in the ’80s?

    The State, Big Legal, and Big Insurance also realized they could monetize DUIs into a consistent revenue stream.

  163. @Rosie

    Let’s see. On one hand you have:

    No Whiskey.

    On the other you have:

    Getting tortured in prison camps for dissidents.

    “No whiskey” was followed rather quickly by “prison camps for dissidents” once many women had switched to the other party:

    • Replies: @Rosie
  164. Ragno says:

    Good luck trying to point out the odd feeling of deja vu as a Rubin, a Simon and an Abrams compile lists of troublesome Christians for Special Treatment. The only thing missing is Walter Duranty ; say, will a thousand Walter Durantys do? Fox News would really like some of their advertisers back, so they caved completely, and went full-tilt-Wally this morning. (I know it’s especially disheartening to see FNC join this coast-to-coast psy-op, but let’s face it – they were slowly, methodically starved into submission.)

    While I’ve actually grown to like the man, and (still!) support him, Trump did so much of this to himself. But his worst, and perhaps his fatal, blunder was called by Ann Coulter this summer. When he didn’t cite whatever emergency provision he needed to to send in the goddamn Marines to crush the BLM/Antifa hordes once they began terrorizing major cities before looting, sacking and burning them to the ground….knowing ahead of time Soros-bought local “law enforcement” would refuse to so much as lock them up for 30 days, but instead would wink at and encourage them…..he sent a message of profound weakness and capitulation. It never dawned on him that they were going to call him a depraved mass murderer either way – whether he took out the trash or not.

    By being too timid, too careful to toss “optics” to the wind and extract an onerous PRICE from these anarchists – and make no mistake, antifa/BLM represent the worst kind of scum the modern West has yet excreted into society – he sent the message to all of America and the world: they were all going to get away with it, completely scot free. The job the men running and supposedly defending the country refused to do was instead farmed out to a 17-year-old boy, who was then thrown to the wolves. Trump then avoided even uttering the name “Kyle Rittenhouse” on the campaign trail, like it was synonymous with “cancer” . (That had to be a bit of Jared Kushner ‘wisdom’).

    So you tell me: if barbarians laying waste to entire cities could do so grinning with the certain knowledge that they would suffer nothing, not even getting their hair mussed…what would give pause to even the most flagrant election fraud and tampering? The fear of God? Possibly; but certainly not the fear of Trump. Saber-rattling tweets lose what little deterrence value they have pretty quickly – particularly when even Silicon Valley works up the sheer brass to muzzle the President of the United States from even being able to speak. Once the Communists realized this paper tiger was comically toothless, nothing was going to prevent them from stealing this election.

    Right now I’m hoping for a miracle – not for Trump, but for US. He’s still vastly preferable to the alternative. But if this is his sayonara moment, he had better issue full pardons for Rittenhouse and any Proud Boy locked up in prison*- or every minute of the past four years was a lie.

    And if he really wants to live on as a beacon of strength far larger than life, issue another full pardon: for James Fields, the martyr of Charlottesville.

    * (Cuomo sent two Proud Boys upstate, for the crime of punching out antifa thugs who were terrorizing unarmed citizens on the street, for 4-6 YEARS. He sent them up even after the ‘plaintiffs’ never bothered to show up for the arraignment or the trial. Further, Cuomo practically dictated the verdict and the sentence on the night of the arrests, with remarkable accuracy. This is a man who releases armed robbers and rapists on their own recognizance, without demanding ten cents worth of bail!)

    • Agree: Cortes, Alden
    • Replies: @Bragadocious
  165. Rosie says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    “No whiskey” was followed rather quickly by “prison camps for dissidents” once many women had switched to the other party:

    I don’t know much about the history but I reckon if you’re going to have a law you have to have some sort of penalty for the breach. Prohibition is like the Emmet Till of manosphere whining, only it’s even older news.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  166. True story. Earlier this afternoon I was driving on Addison Street, just a few blocks east of Wrigley Field, and low and behold there was Gov JB Pritzker standing with a group of people in front of an American Cremation Society Center. As I slowly drove by I clearly heard him say, “It’s a great day”.

  167. pirelli says:
    @Barnard

    Yeah, her threat is targeted at republicans currently holding public office, but the attitude behind it is exactly the attitude that prompted a backlash that led to Trump winning in 2016: “we run the show, we decide who’s naughty and nice, and if you don’t play by our (constantly changing) rules you will never get anywhere, peasant.”

    One of the more interesting findings about the 2016 election was that Trump did best in areas with relatively *high* social capital, but declining employment and population, suggesting that support for Trump wasn’t exactly a cry for help from the “bowling alone” parts of the country, as some commentators had (arrogantly) suspected. It was instead a reaction, by people that still had some sense of identity, group cohesion, and self-respect, against a system that was obviously stacked against them.

    Long-term declines in employment and population rather than in earnings, salaries, or wages in places with relatively strong social capital propelled Donald Trump to the presidency. By contrast, low social capital and high interpersonal inequality were not connected to a surge in support for Trump.

    https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3688214

    Of course, I have no idea how best to reliably boost social capital (more church attendance, for a start?), but that’s gotta be a major part of the playbook going forward.

    • Replies: @Alice in Wonderland
  168. The only list that concerns me is the one Santa makes.

  169. Meant to write Cremation Society of Illinois.

  170. @Rosie

    Prohibition is like the Emmet Till of manosphere whining, only it’s even older news.

    Prohibition was Progressivism. Progressivism is still with us, like termites. Only the McGuffin has changed. Some white man somewhere is having fun.

    I don’t know what “manosphere” is. I just bought the biography of Jeannette Rankin in the home state she represented. I don’t care about her suffragism much either way, but that she stood up to both our “Democratic dictators” to keep our boys home means she deserves her statue in the capitol in Helena.

    Had only her male colleagues listened.

    The enemy of my enemy is my friend!

    • Replies: @Rosie
    , @dfordoom
  171. anon[773] • Disclaimer says:

    We have arrived at Crane’s court. Exile, or Death?

  172. @Stan Adams

    This portrayal of the Democrats as economic leftists is tiresome and greatly exaggerated. They wouldn’t get so much big tech money if they were true socialists. Yes, they offer a little more “free shit” than the Republicans, but they are still pretty much a low tax, pro-business party that is controlled by big business.

    The main dividing line in US politics is geographic. The Dems are the party of city people (upper middle class white liberals and their hangers on) and the Republicans are the party of whites who don’t live in big cities. Hence, they like to direct money to their bitchy urban voters and the Republicans like to direct money to middle and upper class suburban whites who complain about the cost of filling up their SUV. The big losers are working class whites who haven’t had any political representation since the Democrats abandoned them in the 1960s.

  173. Rosie says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    Hmmm. I dunno Reg. I think you’re on some pretty shaky ground there. I have actually given this some thought. I see it as a logical fallacy, but I’m not quite sure what to call it. I suppose it would fit in with the fallacies of composition.

    Prohibition was part of progressivism.
    Prohibition was bad. (Your premise, not mine.)
    Therefore, all of progressivism is bad. (Not sure if this is your argument or not, but it seems to be what you’re implying).

    Or something like that. Anyway, the problem here becomes that people get bogged down in arguments about characterization. “Is this progressivism?” Rather than, “Is this a good idea?”

    Anyway, I’m rambling, but really what else is there to do at a time like this?

  174. pirelli says:
    @Matt Buckalew

    There was a nicer way to point that out… I do think McConnell is probably one of the happiest people in America right now. Hawley and Cotton should be too, even moreso. Time for Generation X (I double checked, and Hawley is indeed just barely a Gen X-er) to grab the mic!

  175. @Anon

    Biden will be a puppet, just as he is now, and there will be many fighting over who gets to pull his strings: China, Ukraine, Israel, Hillary, Obama, Harris, Schumer, Pelosi.

  176. @TelfoedJohn

    You forgot Robert Reich. I am sure he has a list of people to appear before his Truth and Reconciliation Commission.

  177. Anonymous[383] • Disclaimer says:

    Reminded me of

  178. @Achmed E. Newman

    The u tube is filled with videos of people not complying with DUI check points. My guns are useless without bullets, got any spare 7.62X54s and .40cal S&W? I think they will come for the ammo before the guns.

  179. @Bragadocious

    Best comment of the day. By far.

  180. Anon[240] • Disclaimer says:

    Tucker heads the list, and will be cancelled, and frog-marched, by the Harris justice department, by reason of promulgating dangerous conspiracy theories and terrorism. This Manafort-like example will have a chilling effect upon others farther down on the list, who will then self-censor. When the FBI shows up to inquire about their past heresies, they will recant — I now get it, they will explain. They will show that they have joined progressive organizations and made progressive donations.

  181. Dr. X says:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Somehow people like Jennifer Rubin and yes, even AOC, do not scare me in the way that guys from the Gestapo or E. German Stasi would have.

    Rubin and AOC aren’t going the be the ones knocking on your door. They’re going to hire tattooed, white, male ex-Navy SEALs and Army Rangers who are willing to join the FBI SWAT team and kill you for a government paycheck and cushy pension.

  182. syonredux says:

    Matty Yglesias:

    Can’t shake the devil’s hand and say you’re only kidding

    Indeed….

  183. @Rosie

    I think you are kind obnoxious even though I agree with you that a lot of the analysis here is just thinly veiled “I hate my bitch ex-wife and that my kids call Ron dad.”

    That said- per the exit polls you have been one hundred percent vindicated. Females stayed firm it was white males that defected- and the explanations proffered by folks here vindicate you even more- apparently WWC males need to be constantly sucked up to and if any other group gets mentioned by Trump then they pout and stay home. This is exactly the argument that has been deployed against you ad nauseam here- that women aren’t worth courting because they need ceaseless pandering or their feelings and amour propre gets hurt. Well apparently that’s true of WWC males as well.

    I think the real reason is a lot of down scale whites thought Hilary reminded them of their ex-wife and voted against her. Once she was off the ballot some of those WWC voters weren’t coming back. Meanwhile, WWC women appreciated their rising wages and voted for more of the same.

    • Replies: @Rosie
    , @Alden
  184. syonredux says:

    Man, Matty Yglesias really hates janitors….But, following Woke logic, anyone who works for Trump is a de facto White Supremacist….

    My fondest memory of Trump-era politics is when I left one of my then-baby’s poop-filled diapers in the trash at the Trump Hotel.

  185. Roger says:

    We are just going to be removed from polite society? That is not so bad. I was worried about being sent to the gulag.

  186. fish says:
    @TelfoedJohn

    I just hope that these Jewish people (Rubin, Simon, Abrams, and lets not forget the Truthiest and most Reconciliationist of them all….lil Bobby Reich) let us wear something that will help us identify each other…..maybe an armband of sorts….with some pattern or emblem that would allows us to identify each other at a distance, something recognizable…a star perhaps.

  187. JimB says:
    @Kylie

    Do they have to make anything or build anything if they can force us to make, build and maintain things?

    How about Ron Unz building a new Facebook and Twitter with full privacy protections? Maybe he can get it up and running by 2024.

    • Agree: Kylie
    • Replies: @Eagle Eye
  188. Corvinus says:
    @onetwothree

    “How many weeks (days?) after Biden’s inauguration will Covid-19 be memory-holed?“

    Until 2021. See, it’s a pandemic. Covid is not going to disappear.

    • Replies: @another fred
  189. OT but not really: the media seems to have already zeroed in on “Trumpism” as the new evil that must be forever fought against now that the devil of their religion has been vanquished

    The threat of Trumpism will now be forever present, justifying struggle sessions, restrictions on freedoms, and endless funding to think tanks, “anti hate” orgs and others

    • Replies: @ben tillman
  190. Anon[363] • Disclaimer says:

    We gonna have a pandemic every primary from here till the Apocalypse Jennifer Rubin?

    Mail-in swindle ballots against every Tulsi Gabbard, Alexandria Cortez, Bernie that comes along?

    A side note: Gabbard had a little empathy from those on the right. It was quaint seeing Hillary suggest Tulsi was a Russian-controlled plant and lefties retweet it when she was actually a veteran.

  191. @Peter Akuleyev

    Trump lost, the left also lost, the GOP won. We are not facing a socialist future. We are facing a globalist corporatist future of greater inequality dominated by tech billionaires and a small multi-racial elite.

    That’s one aspect of the Left.

  192. Twinkie says:
    @Twinkie

    I meant WaPo. Thanks for the corrections.

  193. anon[151] • Disclaimer says:

    I wonder why (((Jennifer “Count Every Fake Ballot” Rubin))) didn’t wait for Nov. 7 to issue her diktat.

    It’s a twofer – the opening of the Bolshevik coup in St. Petersburg (Oct. 25 old calendar) plus the declaration of the People’s Republic of China in 1931 by Mao Tse Tung.

    Just a perfect date for a Blue Chekist to call for purging and re-education of enemies.

    Perhaps she’s not as educated as she pretends to be.

  194. epebble says:
    @onetwothree

    At the current rate, Population Fatality Rate (PFR) should approach New Jersey value (~ 1800 per million) some time in Summer 2021. NJ seems to be near herd immunity looking at current fatality rates.

    https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.04.15.20067074v3

  195. @Anon

    Just by his campaign, and the media – which is saying the same, the Electoral College does not meet until December.

  196. @Rosie

    Prohibition was bad. (Your premise, not mine.)

    Federal agents raiding the wedding at Cana sounds pretty bad to me.

    There are other bad amendments– the 23rd, to be sure– but the 18th is unique in that the question it addressed comes nowhere near a constitutional subject. America went mad– or drunk– with power.

  197. @Corvinus

    It won’t disappear, but they can reduce the number of “infections” very quickly by reducing the number of cycles of PCR. Numerous experts say the number currently being used (40-45) is too high and creates many false positives.

    The general population is too ignorant (often willfully so) to see the difference.

    • Thanks: Dissident
  198. Corvinus says:
    @onetwothree

    “How many weeks (days?) after Biden’s inauguration will Covid-19 be memory-holed?“

    It is a pandemic. Covid is not going to disappear.

  199. Corvinus says:
    @onetwothree

    “How many weeks (days?) after Biden’s inauguration will Covid-19 be memory-holed?“

    It is a pandemic. Covid is not going to disappear. See, it’s comments like this one is the reason why you get relegated to fourth string status.

    • Replies: @El Dato
  200. @B36

    You are applying the standards of Western Civilization to Jews.

    Why?

  201. https://www.unz.com/estriker/second-place-in-the-i-hate-racism-contest/

    Basically, I agree. Trump lost because, unlike the 1st time, he didn’t follow the Sailer strategy.

  202. Rosie says:
    @Matt Buckalew

    I think you are kind obnoxious even though I agree with you that a lot of the analysis here is just thinly veiled “I hate my bitch ex-wife and that my kids call Ron dad.”

    Lolol. Thanks, I guess. If you think I’m obnoxious, tell me when you catch me in the act. I’m open to constructive criticism.

  203. MB says: • Website
    @ben tillman

    Codevilla’s mentions this in his 2010 contemporary classic The Ruling Class.
    When a new law and order is imposed by judicial activism, subverting the old law and order, conservatives can end up being behind the eight ball when it comes to understanding the coup.

    • Replies: @Cortes
  204. @Single and Ready to Drop Red Pills

    OT but not really: the media seems to have already zeroed in on “Trumpism” as the new evil that must be forever fought against now that the devil of their religion has been vanquished

    Ultimately, “Trumpism” means democracy, so that makes sense.

  205. Thomas says:

    I’ve said before, I’ll say again: ‘dis bitch be gettin’ all Talmudic ‘n shit.

    • Troll: Dissident
  206. Cortes says:
    @MB

    The ruling class can always make use of the power of love:

  207. Rosie says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    Federal agents raiding the wedding at Cana sounds pretty bad to me.

    Me too, but then that was Holy wine, which I think has a special property of never causing men to beat their wives and kids, unlike the regular, non-holy kind. That seems to be a weakness that is particular to men. Women certainly make very bad decisions when drunk, but they don’t seem to be prone to violence.

    However you feel about Prohibition, there is no denying the compelling moral policy objective behind it. Of course, one can certainly argue that it caused more harm than good or that it violated human autonomy, and those may be fine arguments, but the fact remains that the moral concerns behind it were not trivial.

    I don’t know if you are acquainted with or have a relationship with anyone who suffered severe child abuse at the hands of a habitual drunk, but the consequences are devastating. Indeed, they may be permanent and irreversible. I don’t think it’s proven, but the brain may actually be able to adapt to the environment and develop in a way that best prepares the chil to thrive in the circumstances they’re born into. A child born into a dangerous environment would be more impulsive and sensitive to threats but less empathetic, for example.

    https://aztrauma.org/childhood-trauma-can-alter-reactivity-real-perceived-threat/

    It would stand to reason that boy victims are even more adversely affected than girl victims, because young men are already at a disadvantage when it comes to impulse control, though I haven’t researched the question.

    There are other bad amendments– the 23rd, to be sure– but the 18th is unique in that the question it addressed comes nowhere near a constitutional subject. America went mad– or drunk– with power.

    Hmmm. Constitutional amendments don’t have to have anything to do with any constitutional subject. In fact, they can directly contradict the Constitution. That’s the whole point of having Amendment procedure.

  208. Internet ipecac!

    Just read the responses.

  209. Currahee says:
    @Anonymous

    Was not Joe Exotic the libertarian’s most successful candidate?

  210. Just remember who started it.

    I’d really rather go fishing, but…

  211. @Anon7

    Obama and the left facilitated a fake crime, the FBI – Russia hoax, so his successor would have a failed Presidency. It was like planting a time bomb in the white house that would destroy Trump with obstruction or lying. But much to their everlasting consternation it failed. They possibly left a virus too.

    Biden has real crimes he needs to worry about. His son is a pedophile and he and his family has taken at least $40 million is influence peddling bribes and Trump knows them all. Trump needs to take the remaining time left in the Presidency to make sure Biden and hopefully Harris is so crippled legally that they will regret they ever crossed paths.

    Trump also needs to unload as much data as he has on the election fraud that occurred. They stole the election (and they will steal the next one) and they need to be delegitimized. Trump’s legacy will be Russian hookers and Joe’s will be crimes that even FB and twitter can’t cover up.

  212. JimDandy says:
    @Jack D

    You just lost a lot of credibility.

    • Replies: @Henry's Cat
  213. Rosie says:
    @Rosie

    It’s worth noting, also, Reg, that Prohibition was not antimale. The premise of the movement was that men are good, but liquor made them evil. (Toxic masculinity was not inherent to men but rather a product of intoxication.) One of the problems with domestic abuse is that dealing with it criminally not only deprives a man of his freedom, but also deprives a family of a provider and caretaker, so an ounce of prevention was seen as worth more than a pound of cure.

    Domestic violence is an issue that the manosphere has no solution for other than to wave it off. Prohibition was at least an attempt to solve a problem in a constructive and proactive way that would best serve the interests of the family as a whole, whatever its demerits, which, as I said, may well have outweighed its merits. I don’t know enough to say one way or the other.

  214. Don’t want to give the WSJ extra traffic, but for anyone noticing they’ve posted an article about how awful, just AWFUL remote work is for those poor little megacorporations…

  215. JimDandy says:
    @Twinkie

    Neocons are Trostkyites in Conservative drag. This behavior isn’t ironic. It’s a brazen flaunting of The Jewish Power Which Must Not Be Mentioned. Which I do find surprising. Makes me wonder if she’s a drinking or on meds.

  216. @Rosie

    Also he wasn’t making Hypnotic and Ciroc or everclear he made wine at a wedding reception not rum and coke at happy hour for the Gilead Applebee’s.

  217. Mike Tre says:
    @YetAnotherAnon

    The redacted paragraph describes how that plane was shot down shortly after.

  218. @alt right moderate

    This portrayal of the Democrats as economic leftists is tiresome and greatly exaggerated. They wouldn’t get so much big tech money if they were true socialists.

    Ah, yes, the “no true socialist” fallacy.

    As Steve has pointed out on numerous occasions, the KKKrazy Glue binding the Democratic Party together is hatred of white men. This is the one issue that unites LaShonda, DaShawn, Karen the Komplainer, Kim the Tiger Mom, Rajiv and Indira, Moishe and Masha, and Juan, Juanita, and their five lovely children.

    To the extent that white men are the most productive members of our society, and to the extent that members of other groups want the government to confiscate and redistribute the wealth created by white men … then, yes, the Democrats are socialist. Is there another word that better describes the left’s desired social arrangement?

    To the extent that some white men willingly vote for politicians who seek to implement such an arrangement … then they are imbeciles, and/or hopelessly-deluded cucks cheering their own dispossession.

    Blacks who vote Democratic most definitely want free shit. Black Lives Matter – which has received a shitload of big-tech money over the last few years – is an explicitly Marxist organization.

    Mexicans who vote Democratic aren’t quite as grabby as blacks, but they’re more than happy to take all of the free education and free health care that America has to offer.

    White women who vote Democratic may or may not want free stuff, but they most assuredly want freedom from responsibility (abortion on demand for those who don’t want kids; subsidized child care for those who do; free birth control for both groups). Many if not most of these women are in make-work jobs (such as HR) that make no genuine contribution to society. (One hallmark of socialism is inefficiency.)

    Asians who vote Democratic are social strivers mindlessly conforming to the norms of upper-class American society (as defined by academia and the media). They have much in common with whites, but they perceive (rightly or wrongly) that they have more to gain by voting against white interests. As time goes along, one hopes they will come to realize that they have nothing in common with the low-IQ parasites with whom they are currently aligned.

    • Replies: @Prof. Woland
    , @jsm
    , @dfordoom
  219. Dan Hayes says:
    @Johnny Smoggins

    Two thoroughly repulsive creatures!

  220. Wilkey says:
    @Rob McX

    The term “conservative” needs to be qualified by stating which ethnic group you wish to conserve.

    This is 100% undeniably correct, in Jennifer Rubin’s case. There’s an old video of her and Mickey Kaus doing a streaming video on…I forget the name of the program/blog. They discussed immigration. Rubin came out for open borders for America. Kaus (who is also Jewish, but a good guy) asked her point blank about Israel. “Israel is different,” she said, because reasons.

    Wish I could remember the name of the series. I’m sure someone here does. It was a big thing for a while, and maybe still is.

  221. AOC already talking about going after goodwhites:

    AOC Urges Democrats Not to Take Biden’s Republican Backers Seriously

    https://www.breitbart.com/2020-election/2020/11/07/aoc-urges-democrats-not-to-take-bidens-republican-backers-seriously/

    Hope the goodwhites enjoy their ride in the cannibals’ pots!

    • Agree: Kolya Krassotkin
  222. @Rosie

    Hmmm. Constitutional amendments don’t have to have anything to do with any constitutional subject.

    A clear defect in the amendment process.

    It’s worth noting, also, Reg, that Prohibition was not antimale.

    No, it was anti-German, anti-Italian, anti-Greek, anti-any ethnicity with a responsible drinking record. Sometimes the huddled masses are right.

    Check out the 1912 suffrage referendum in Wisconsin. (Yes, it was a male-only vote, but the suffragists wanted it that way. They did better with the opposite sex.)

    Germans were a dominant but highly diverse segment of the electorate– conservative rural Lutherans and Catholics, and urban refugee socialists. But they all voted “No” as a bloc. Just to keep their beer!

    The fussier squareheads, who had more trouble digesting the stuff, and whose womenfolk in the old country already had the vote, went “Yes” by similar margins. Unlike in Minnesota, they were outnumbered.

  223. Iron List says:

    If you’re not on the list you’re doing something wrong.

    • Agree: Ron Mexico
    • Thanks: JimDandy
    • Replies: @Ron Mexico
  224. Lurker says:

    We don’t need a list. We need only check off who supported which bills, wrote which articles, directed which TV commercials, produced which movies etc. Most of their names are right up there on the screen, the printed page.

  225. Hibernian says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    Jesus changed water into wine, not the other way around.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  226. Lurker says:
    @Whataboutery

    There’s a quote for that!

    Definition of Anglo-American Main-Stream Media

    “A Jew or Jews debating with another Jew or other Jews on or in a Jew-produced show or article on or in a Jew-owned-and/or-run network or publication, about something some other Jew or other Jews said about another Jew or other Jews on or in another Jew-produced show or article on or in a Jew-owned-and/or-run network or publication in relation to the activities of another Jew or other Jews.

    [Plus the active and/or passive collaboration of those who serve, assist, enable, deny and/or defend Jewish domination of public discourse and non-organic culture.]”

  227. Lurker says:
    @B36

    Her tweets so often have a strange, extreme quality, suggesting actual mental illness

    I often get that vibe from the outpourings of the Wokerati.

  228. @anon

    I did leave the UK 40 years ago, yes. When Boris Johnson was a teenager. I haven’t been back that for nearly 20 years so I can’t say that I have had a great influence on the making of modern Britain.

    • Replies: @Cortes
    , @William Badwhite
  229. Alden says:
    @Matt Buckalew

    Maybe it’s animus against the EX wives and resentment about supporting their children.

    But I’ve always doubted that the White Woman Haters of UNZ ever got near a White woman in their lives. It’s just a lifetime of psychotic shyness and wanking away at their porn sites that’s made the MEN OF UNZ so bitter about the White Women they can’t have. Especially their favorite anti White Women slur, “riding the cock carousel”. As if

    That favorite slur comes directly from the pornography and wanking that’s their only way to relive their frustrations Jack Johnson and others make UNZ appear a porn site for their fantasies about so hated and despised White Woman.

    The reason Trump lost much of the White man vote is that they hoped a Messiah King Arthur savior would save Whites from further losses.

    So enough White men didn’t vote for Trump because he isn’t George Washington against Britain and the genocide against Whites will greatly accelerate in the next 4 or 8 years.

    Any White who didn’t vote for Trump is a traitor to the White race.

    • Replies: @MBlanc46
  230. @Ragno

    I actually thought Trump’s refusal to intervene in Portland was tactically sound. He knew he was being baited to send in the troops and that doing so would provide his enemies with priceless propaganda footage — all bullshit, but still. My opinion of Portland was (and is) “let it burn.” Same went for Seattle and Minneapolis. Trump wasn’t winning 2 out of 3 of those states anyway and his federales weren’t wanted there. Whether it hurt him in Minnesota requires some post-election analysis, but if I were living in MN I’d place 100% of the blame on the mayor and governor. A cursory review of reader comments in the Star-Tribune indicates they despise the governor. I think Ann Coulter’s wrong here.

    • Agree: Harry Baldwin
    • Replies: @Prof. Woland
    , @Ragno
  231. Flip says:
    @Bragadocious

    And Kim Dotcom in New Zealand

  232. Alden says:
    @Rosie

    Ask any police officer what causes domestic violence Alcohol and drugs. Ask any welfare department what puts kids in emergency rooms and the road to foster homes. Alcohol and drugs.

    Parking lot fights, tenant vs tenant, neighborhood squabbles mostly alcohol

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  233. @pirelli

    ‘…Of course the comments about office and corporate boards would be more disturbing than the “polite society” ones if they were actually to become enforceable, but the “polite society” stood out to me because it’s pretty much true that they can control that.’

    Where the breakdown really comes is when one realizes that ‘polite society’ is no longer something one would wish to enter.

  234. Escher says:

    The one way “Deplorable Express” to Sinaloa will start soon.

  235. Cortes says:
    @Jonathan Mason

    Come home, Jonathan! Come home!

    We need you.

    • Agree: duncsbaby
  236. Anonymous[358] • Disclaimer says:
    @Richard A.

    After lots of disappointments, the moment I finally lost faith in Trump was when he told that conference of Silicon Valley execs that he was going to help them bring more workers into the country.

    That was a such a damaging betrayal because this was THE issue which propelled him into the White House.

    Recall that back in mid-2015 Disney fired hundreds of its American employees and replaced them with Indians. Trump, who still wasn’t a candidate, denounced this and threatened to punish companies that did such things. That’s when his popularity surge began. Everyone who placed their trust in him over this was betrayed.

    • Agree: Rosie
  237. @MEH 0910

    LOL. While Trump was in office, her utility to the WaPo was as a turncoat anti-Trump “conservative.” But in September 2020, with Biden up in the fake polls by ten points, she renounces “conservative.”

    Now that Biden has officially won, she is going full commie to curry favor with the new regime. A real profile in courage.

    • Agree: Jim Don Bob
  238. @Anon

    That CS Lewis quote is quite applicable to the COVID lockdowns

  239. @Hibernian

    Jesus changed water into wine, not the other way around.

    My Savior sure didn’t turn water into Welch’s®!

  240. @Anonymous

    But anyone who calls a member of a “United Front” organization a Communist is guilty of McCarthyism.

    Heck, anyone with the temerity to point out that Alger Hiss was a Communist is the reincarnation of McCarthy himself. (Or Nixon, not that today’s historical illiterates will draw the distinction.)

  241. Mr. Anon says:
    @Barnard

    She is trying to threaten Republican office holders now that they won’t get the cushy jobs they are used to getting in retirement if they don’t condemn Trump now on and demand he takes the loss. She doesn’t care about us.

    Not now, maybe. What about in future?

    Her statement is a declaration of malign intent directed at all of us.

  242. @Jonathan Mason

    Comprehensive healthcare insurance reform for the working population is an obvious case in point.

    Oh, yeah, insurance reform is really helped by importing unskilled labor to compete here against our poorest citizens. Employer: “You want insurance? Sorry, but Pedro is willing to go without. Bye, now.”

    How about requiring every immigrant, every resident alien, every refugee to pay for his and his entire family’s health care out of his own pocket? That would alleviate a large portion of the problem. Give the natives some bargaining power back.

  243. @Alden

    Ask any welfare department what puts kids in emergency rooms and the road to foster homes. Alcohol and drugs.

    Parking lot fights, tenant vs tenant, neighborhood squabbles mostly alcohol

    You know full well who these people are. I’m not going to give up my guns and my Guinness because they can’t behave.

    • Agree: Achmed E. Newman
    • Replies: @Rosie
  244. MBlanc46 says:
    @Alden

    Alden, your comments are usually spot on, but when you get off on the man-hating, even Rosie is a moderate by comparison.

  245. Eagle Eye says:
    @JimB

    How about Ron Unz building a new Facebook and Twitter with full privacy protections? Maybe he can get it up and running by 2024.

    Some interesting ideas going back to the 1970s propose protecting communications through public/private key encryption. Certain mathematical functions can be tweaked to provide one-way encryption/decryption. For example:

    (1) A Wikileaks-type site or an (actual) journalist publishes a “public key.” This enables anyone to encrypt content before transmission to the site/journalist. ONLY the recipient – in possession of the matching but separate “private” key – is able to decrypt the material. Even the sender cannot decrypt the message generated through one-way encryption using the public key.

    (2) Similarly, an individual could publish his/her “public key.” Banks, doctors, business partners etc. can again encrypt messages for the individual which can only be decrypted using a matching “private key.”

    (3) Conversely, an individual could encrypt a message using a private key. The message can be decrypted using the individual’s “public key.” Since only the owner of the private key can generate a message that decrypts with the corresponding public key, this procedure guarantees that the message is authentic.

    Secrecy is largely undermined through comprehensive “traffic analysis” by government and non-government entities. Traffic analysis collects and analyzes email logs, phone logs etc. to find out who calls/sends messages to whom, at what times, what length, etc. Some interesting technical safeguards have been proposed, but of course, current players prefer to keep unrestricted access to all email, phone, USPS and other individual data.

  246. Peterike says:
    @Anonymous

    “ On immigration, the issue that ultimately decides all others, Trump gets at best a C from me”

    Well the new guy’s going to earn an F-minus.

  247. @Rosie

    One minor quibble, Rosie, since we’re all rambling anyway now:

    You say,

    Women certainly make very bad decisions when drunk, but they don’t seem to be prone to violence.

    My mother was a violent, abusive monster when she was drunk, and she was drunk a lot.

    By the time I was all of nine years old, she had gotten so bad that there were nights when I had to escape the house and hide outside in the dark among the trees until she calmed down. That happened numerous times when she turned on me when I was at home alone with her.

    It took me years to come around and realize that my father was the one rock in my family. He was always there when I needed him. My mother never was. She was a disaster who often instigated bloody fights with him and then turned on me when he would leave to stop the violence. Yes, I was traumatized, by my drunken, violent mother.

    And contrary to your armchair psychology, I am the opposite of impulsive. In fact, I developed severe OCD as a teen and it’s never left me. I am thoughtful and careful to the point of disability, probably because I had to learn to be at a young age.

    • Thanks: Sol, JackOH
    • Replies: @Rosie
    , @duncsbaby
    , @nebulafox
  248. @Stan Adams

    Is there another word that better describes the left’s desired social arrangement?

    Neo-Socialism. The problem with owning the means of production is that you have to come up with the capital and are responsible for the results. Better to just regulate and tax white men. Maybe they can let them keep the extra penny.

  249. @Johnny Smoggins

    I have to admit it, I find I don’t hate Bill Clinton or Barack Obama the way I hate George W. Bush. Every time I see his smug, stupid face I feel my bile rising. I believe that if were cursed to truly understand the amount of needless suffering he has caused countless people he would go stark raving mad.

    • Agree: Kolya Krassotkin
  250. anon[299] • Disclaimer says:

    I supported secession on this website for years, predicting the left would soon win everything and put you people to the sword upon their final triumph. I also stated one day some of the posters here would think back to that random secession comment they came across and realize with horror, too late, that I was right. Well, I come back here and now find the left is readying to do exactly that. They ‘re brazen about it, too — tweeting about it while censoring the president of the United States. Looks like I was right, as usual. I imagine as they’re lining you people up against a wall you’ll revert back to making snarky comments while doing absolutely nothing about it:

    — Conservative: “Well, at least we got to keep the moral high-ground … for what it’s worth.”

    — BANG!

    — History book: “They were immoral people who got what they deserved.”

    All around the internet I see the same thing. Commenters at websites like the Z-Blog are in total denial, which was true here a few weeks ago. Here’s a real comment from Unz, “I believe Donald Trump is going to win. I love my country. God bless America.” Such delusion. That kind of comment was found everywhere. Do you want to know how it is that the Kulaks got slaughtered or how it is that the Jews refused to get out of Germany before it was too late when it was obvious what was coming? Well, just look around. Same thing here. Humans are short-sighted, unimaginative, and stupid herd animals who are easily deceived and fundamentally lazy, preferring comforting self-delusion over hard work and thought.

    Probably in the next 10 years this website will be banned. After Biden takes over, I’m sure the NSA will start making lists of commenters. Was “trusting the plan” worth it? I hope grilling season is worth your dignity and freedoms because that’s what you traded them for.

  251. @ben tillman

    Her list is the difference between being in her world and being in my world. I have no wish to be in her world. However, they need us. We don’t need them.

    • Agree: bomag
  252. @Thoughts

    I don’t get it. So the husband’s gonna keep me off the faculty position and out of office?

  253. @Jonathan Mason

    You have to go back. It’s not too late.

  254. aaa says:

    Since making lists is now a thing:

    http://members.calbar.ca.gov/fal/Licensee/Detail/125702

    Attorney Licensee Profile

    Jennifer A Rubin #125702

    License Status: Not Eligible to Practice Law (Suspended, failed to pay Bar fees)

    County: Non-California County

    Phone Number: Not Available

    Fax Number: Not Available

    Email:

    Law School: UC Berkeley SOL; Berkeley CA

    • Replies: @Sol
    , @Hibernian
  255. @Bragadocious

    The attack on the White House was a deliberate attempt to get Trump to fire on the protestors. What we are experiencing is a color revolution. The deep state was using the exact same tactics that were used in the Ukraine during the Maidan orange revolution. He did not take the bait and was willing to let the protestors burn the white house down much as the British had during the war of 1812 (he would have been whisked away through a tunnel to safety)

    In the end they had to commit election fraud leaving their fingerprints all over the crime scene. Let them burn for this. My guess is that when this is mapped out, the wards where election fraud was most prevalent will overlap significantly with the areas with the highest concentration of African Americans; Detroit, Philly, Milwaukee, etc. BLM indeed. The truth will not be kind to the Democrats.

    By the way, where are the exit polls?

  256. Ragno says:
    @Bragadocious

    All good points. But, failing a last-minute courtroom rescue, murderous antifa will have gotten away with it. Free and clear. Which isn’t “like saying” they’ve been rewarded for plunging a dagger into our nation’s heart – it’s saying exactly that. Franco knew better than to let the Communist barbarians a free pass in the name of What People Might Say. Then again, he wasn’t chased out of power by shysters playing magic tricks with pieces of paper.

    Tactically, yes – doubtless Trump had his reasons. But Kyle Rittenhouse’s motives were purer, as was his heart and his patriotism; until and unless he gets a complete walk from the outgoing (or legally re-elected) President, that poor kid has been abandoned to face whatever George Soros’ Red Terror lieutenants can dream up to inflict upon him; abandoned by the “tacticians”. Who someone really ought to sit down and explain that we burned the village to save the village was never supposed to refer to be YOUR OWN village!

    • Replies: @Ragno
    , @Bragadocious
  257. @Iron List

    Emerson to Thoreau: why are you in jail?
    Thoreau to Emerson: why are you not in jail?

  258. bomag says:
    @ben tillman

    …the difference between life and death

    Leave them in power long enough, the two become the same.

    And then the living envy the dead.

  259. bomag says:
    @Peter Akuleyev

    …but many people will lose the opportunity to have a job and lifestyle that provides them a modicum of dignity.

    While people of incompetence, uncaring, and evil will be promoted to positions of authority.

    That is what brings on (even faster) decline.

    • Replies: @Peter Akuleyev
  260. Sol says:
    @aaa

    She was a lawyer too? What other stereotypical attributes does she have?

  261. Rosie says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    You know full well who these people are. I’m not going to give up my guns and my Guinness because they can’t behave.

    This is wrong, Reg. The fact of the matter is that alcohol is a but for cause of a great deal of child abuse, White children included.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  262. Rosie says:
    @Buzz Mohawk

    And contrary to your armchair psychology, I am the opposite of impulsive. In fact, I developed severe OCD as a teen and it’s never left me. I am thoughtful and careful to the point of disability, probably because I had to learn to be at a young age.

    I’m sorry you went through that. Like all generalizations, there are always exceptions. That doesn’t mean the generalizations aren’t valid. Anyway, I’m glad you beat the odds, and haven’t let hate take over your soul.

    • Agree: Dissident
    • Replies: @Buzz Mohawk
    , @RW
  263. @TheMann

    Every Politician that has ordered a lockdown, business closures, restraint of travel, masking ( a species of psychological torture), forced testing, eventually, forced vaccines, is guilty if War Crimes and crimes against Humanity.

    So now Putin and Orban are war criminals?

  264. @bomag

    While people of incompetence, uncaring, and evil will be promoted to positions of authority.

    That has been and remains true of any organization over 50 people as far as I can tell. Obviously that’s why the more decentralization and personal liberty we can hold on to, the better off we are. But I don’t see either political party, or Trump for that matter, making a serious effort to move us back in that direction.

  265. duncsbaby says:
    @onetwothree

    Don’t look now but you got onetwothree Corvinus replies.

  266. @Rosie

    This is wrong, Reg. The fact of the matter is that alcohol is a but for cause of a great deal of child abuse, White children included.

    Not in our house.

    Take your Islam elsewhere, please. It’s un-Christian.

  267. @AndrewR

    AOC is half her age, at least somewhat attractive

    She is one of the most repulsive, hideous creatures I have ever seen and her voice makes my testicles recede, but you do you, eh?

    • Replies: @AndrewR
  268. AndrewR says:
    @GoRedWings!

    Dude, chill. Compared to Jennifer Rubin, who I’m pretty sure is a dude, AOC is a dime piece. But objectively she’s a 5. Take your anger out elsewhere

  269. ATBOTL says:
    @Anonymous

    Will there be Whitexit from Jewish Supremacism?

    There just was one.

  270. @Lot

    I did leave the UK 40 years ago, yes. When Boris Johnson was a teenager. I haven’t been back that for nearly 20 years so I can’t say that I have had a great influence on the making of modern Britain.

    A return to colonialism seems unlikely to work. One problem today is that America wants economic colonialism with American-led mega corporations ruling the rest of the world, just as they rule the US .

    • Agree: dfordoom
  271. duncsbaby says:
    @Buzz Mohawk

    One minor quibble, Rosie, since we’re all rambling anyway now:

    I feel like ramblin’ too!

    • Replies: @Buzz Mohawk
    , @Hibernian
  272. A more low-brow, DC themed version …

  273. @JimDandy

    JimD and Jack D spar about Jude.

  274. @duncsbaby

    A great song from a great album.

  275. @Rosie

    Like all generalizations, there are always exceptions. That doesn’t mean the generalizations aren’t valid.

    Understood. I just had to get that out of my system when I read your generalizations about women, booze, violence and damaged children.

    Here is another true story that still makes me sad:

    One day, not long before I moved away, my mother had a friend over, a woman with a little daughter in tow. As my mother and her mother started drinking in the living room, the little girl, maybe 7 years old, came into my room and begged me to help her, something like this from memory:

    “Please don’t let my mom drink. Please, please stop them. Please stop my mom. She will get very drunk and mean. I’m scared. Please, can you make them stop?”

    That little girl was going through the exact same trauma I had gone through, and there she was, begging me to help her. All I could say was that anytime she was afraid, she could dial 0 (this was before 911) and ask the operator to get the police. I felt very sorry for the girl, but there was nothing I could do.

    So, you see, drunk, abusive mothers exist in sufficient quantities to cause unquantifiable damage to who-knows-how-many children. I am only recounting the samples from my limited slice of existence, and so I can safely assume that there are many, many more.

    But thank you for your kind wishes. I do agree that your generalizations are based in truth. I am not arguing with you.

  276. RW says:
    @Rosie

    You say women seem this way, but we read that women hit men more than men hit women, they just do less damage. So I wonder what your evidence is that this pattern reverses when the sexes are drunk.

    • Replies: @Rosie
  277. El Dato says:
    @Corvinus

    It certainly isn’t objectively going anywhere

    Coronavirus cases in Russia top 20,000 for second day as roll-out of Sputnik V vaccine set to begin

    Still, beating both fascism and COVID-19 at the ballot box is not nothing!

  278. dfordoom says: • Website
    @Jonathan Mason

    Boo-boo! Maybe the Republicans need to go back and retool their policies and come up with some ideas that will appeal to more people.

    Yep. When you lose an election the smart thing to do is to try to figure out why you couldn’t persuade enough people to vote for you. In this case voters chose a pretty awful Democrat candidate. That indicates just how much a lot of people disliked Trump. Populists, nationalists, dissident rightists, etc, need to look at the reasons Trump was rejected by the voters. Clearly the voters did not want what he had to offer.

    If Trump lost against a guy who should be in a nursing home who is leader of a party that is likely to offer nothing but Wokeism and endless wars then obviously Trumpism was a dismal failure. Amazingly, offering tax cuts to the rich doesn’t win elections.

    Trumpism is now dead. Something a lot better, something that will actually appeal to voters, needs to be found. Bread-and-butter issues are always election-winners. If a party can convince voters that it really will deliver the goods on issues like healthcare, housing, jobs and providing a social safety net it will usually win. Of course it won’t happen because too many people on the Right will complain that providing decent housing, healthcare, jobs and a safety net is communism.

    And for God’s sake stop talking about race. Start talking about policies that will benefit all ordinary people.

    And forget Trump. He failed. If you want to win in the future Trump is simply not relevant to that future.

    • Replies: @Peter Frost
  279. Hibernian says:
    @aaa

    Apparently went inactive by just not paying the fees. Should have sent a resignation letter, but not really a big deal.

  280. Ragno says:
    @Peter Akuleyev

    The American people appear to have rejected Trump….

    Only if you’re looking through Burisma-colored glasses.

    CONGRATULATIONS, BIG GUY!!

  281. @TelfoedJohn

    Don’t forget Keith Olbermann. That putz seems to want us all rounded up and sent to reeducation camps, like all 70 million who voted for Trump. Kind of a Stalin wannabe on steroids. If they take away our jobs, and our homes are to be confiscated for zapnins* to live in, then I guess we will have time to confront them in restaurants, when they are pumping gas (Does the ruling class pump their own gas?), dox them and lead violent protests at their homes. Think again, Keith.

    *Zapnins: When introduced to one and you say, “Nice to meet you Tyrone,” he responds in a low voice with, “Yeah, zapnin…” Say it out loud and you will get it.

  282. Ragno says:
    @Ragno

    Apologies for the inexcusable typos above but, well…. I’m down to my last unfried nerve-ending this week.

  283. @Jonathan Mason

    I did leave the UK 40 years ago, yes

    It would nice if you went back. Failing that, at least give up your internet connection.

    • Agree: 3g4me
  284. nebulafox says:
    @Buzz Mohawk

    Yeah, I was extremely fortunate that the alcohol abusing tendencies in my DNA pool mostly tended to lean toward the philosophical and not the violent. (Self-destructive stupidity, on the other hand…)

  285. Anon[473] • Disclaimer says:
    @Kylie

    Yep. This is how it works.

    I’ve come to believe that the gun issue in particular is bad for the right. I’m a gun owner and support the Second Amendment, but if I were a savvy left-wing strategist, I’d mostly let the right win this one.

    The problem is that conservatives think the left’s positions, many of which are contrary to human nature, will cause the state to collapse. Then, in their thinking, the right will be in a dominant position, will protect themselves, and will restore society to its proper form.

    But this belief is actually a delusional cope, and it keeps the right complacent as the left takes over one institution after another. The US remains an extremely powerful and highly functional society. We are very far away from a situation in which the electrical grid collapses or farm production stops. Yes, we’re becoming increasingly divided and sclerotic, but there remains a huge amount of capital to be drawn down.

    I couldn’t count the number of times I’ve heard some gun owner say, when hearing about some new craziness from the left, “Well, I’m locked and loaded! When shit hits the fan they’re never getting past my house! Hahaha!” Meanwhile his political enemies take over the state’s school curricula and teach his kids noxious garbage, while he sits impotently at home and grills. And if, God forbid, he actually tried to brandish, let alone use a gun in the way he’s technically allowed to, the leftists who’ve taken over the legal system in his area will come down on him like a ton of bricks.

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
  286. ATBOTL says:
    @MEH 0910

    Jennifer Rubin said “There is a Republican Party thoroughly infused with racism and intellectually corrupted by right-wing nationalism.” Yet she supports the right-wing nationalism of Netanyahu’s Israel.

  287. ATBOTL says:
    @Lot

    I believe TJ and Ben would agree, if they had the benefit of our modern science and statistics, that there is a large inequality of talents among the races, and the natural order is for the more intelligent, creative and energetic to rule, in a firm but enlightened manner.

    TJ and Ben were overt white nationalists. They were well aware of racial differences. They wouldn’t need to have any information from the present to be white nationalists.

    • Replies: @Rob McX
  288. jsm says:
    @Stan Adams

    o the extent that white men are the most productive members of our society, and to the extent that members of other groups want the government to confiscate and redistribute the wealth created by white men … then, yes, the Democrats are socialist. Is there another word that better describes the left’s desired social arrangement?

    Slavery?

    • Replies: @Stan Adams
    , @ben tillman
  289. number9 says:
    @Rosie

    “Domestic violence is an issue that the manosphere has no solution for other than to wave it off.”

    You are an ignoramus. Domestic violence is something that women engage in just as frequently as men. That’s what the objective studies from around the world demonstrate. Of course, partisan feminists have their own little list of carefully curated but deeply flawed goal-seeking studies that they like to tout; all easily debunked as nonsense.

    When it comes to child abuse, women are more likely than men to be the abuser.

    • Replies: @Rosie
  290. @Ragno

    Well in the Dept. of Small Blessings we can say that Trump, at the very least, sent out the U.S. Marshals to eliminate Michael Reinoehl after the Portland Police Politburo gave him an escape route (and probably an encrypted burner phone and some extra ammo). So if bad orange man leaves, we’ll always have Reinoehl’s bullet-ridden body as evidence that Trump was here and made a difference.

    • Agree: bruce county
  291. Mr. Anon says:
    @Anon

    We are very far away from a situation in which the electrical grid collapses or farm production stops. Yes, we’re becoming increasingly divided and sclerotic, but there remains a huge amount of capital to be drawn down.

    https://s4.reutersmedia.net/resources/r/?m=02&d=20200317&t=2&i=1504544843&w=780&fh=&fw=&ll=&pl=&sq=&r=2020-03-17T181024Z_14978_MRPRC2TKF9WJS26_RTRMADP_0_HEALTH-CORONAVIRUS-EMPTY-SHELVES

    There may be a threshold phenomenon at play there. We haven’t hit the knee yet, but when we do, things might start to decline faster than you would think.

    • Replies: @Rob McX
  292. @jsm

    Surely you jest. Every schoolkid knows that, in the entire history of the world, only blacks have ever been enslaved. The very notion of white slavery is completely nonsensical. Why, without the latest firmware update, the average NPC mind would crash at the very thought of it.

    Die, Nazi, die!

    • Agree: jsm
  293. Rob McX says:
    @ATBOTL

    Just about everyone in those days was a white nationalist. Just as people nowadays don’t go around proclaiming that the earth is round, people back then didn’t make a big thing of their belief in racial inequality. It was the default position.

  294. JimDandy says:
    @Sandy Berger's Socks

    Trump’s three most passionate enemies.

  295. @alt right moderate

    “The Left” and “socialism” are very different things. Depending on how you define socialism, they are even antagonistic things.

  296. @jsm

    To the extent that white men are the most productive members of our society, and to the extent that members of other groups want the government to confiscate and redistribute the wealth created by white men … then, yes, the Democrats are socialist. Is there another word that better describes the left’s desired social arrangement?

    Anything involving “confiscation” isn’t socialism. “Slavery” is a better term.

  297. dfordoom says: • Website
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Yes, I did. I could see it going this way from 1995 on. That was the time I noted that nobody argued against DUI traffic stops anymore.

    I do agree with you that there’s been a trend towards people just accepting ridiculous petty restrictions on freedom. I’m no libertarian but I do share the libertarian dislike of petty regulations.

    The most sinister change that has happened throughout the Anglosphere and not just in the US has been the gradual erosion of basic legal rights. Essential concepts like double jeopardy and habeas corpus have been under attack and conservatives have done absolutely nothing to oppose these attacks.

    The problem is that conservatives have fallen in love with authoritarianism. The increasing prevalence of cop worship among conservatives is very worrying. I certainly don’t agree with nonsense like defunding the police but citizens do need legal protections against abuse of power by cops (and abuse of power by bureaucrats).

    It’s not just an American thing. It’s happening throughout the West but especially in the Anglosphere.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  298. @pirelli

    low social capital = lots of H1b Asians + low wage hispanics

    the Asians are a mixed bag who don’t like one another, plus the hispanics that do all the work. How would those groups build social capital with one another, atheists, hindus, buddhists, muslims, and nominal catholics.

    whites can hold the groups sorta together, but the fewer the whites, the fewer the connections.

  299. Peter Frost says: • Website
    @dfordoom

    Trumpism is now dead. Something a lot better, something that will actually appeal to voters, needs to be found. Bread-and-butter issues are always election-winners.

    That sounds an awful lot like Trump’s platform in 2016. No more outsourcing of decent-paying jobs. No more insourcing of cheap labor. No more young men dying in foreign wars of no concern to Americans. It still sounds good to me.

    Trumpism is dead because Donald Trump killed it … in order to be accepted by establishment Republicans.

    And for God’s sake stop talking about race.

    You need a new prescription for your glasses. Whatever Trump’s faults — and they were many — being obsessed about race wasn’t one of them. As for his supporters, they didn’t talk much about it either. It was really the Democrats who were, and are, race-obsessed.

    In any case, as a matter of principle no subject should be kept off the table.

    • Agree: vinteuil, Rob McX
    • Replies: @vinteuil
  300. vinteuil says:
    @AndrewR

    Dude, are you a neo-Nazi?

  301. Rosie says:
    @RW

    You say women seem this way, but we read that women hit men more than men hit women, they just do less damage. So I wonder what your evidence is that this pattern reverses when the sexes are drunk.

    First of all, I’m not sure it’s true that women hit men more often, but I’m not sure it matters either way. The fact remains that drunk men are far more dangerous than drunk women.

    This study seems to be on point:

    https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/7475039/#:~:text=Results%3A%20Alcohol%20increased%20both%20shock,of%20aggression%20toward%20both%20genders.

    The findings of this investigation indicate that alcohol differentially affects aggressive responding in men and women. It is suggested that men are likely to express alcohol-related aggression in direct (shock intensity) and indirect (shock duration) forms, whereas women are most likely to use indirect forms (shock duration).

    This actually rings true to me from what I know about the escalating nature of male violence in the home.

  302. Rosie says:
    @number9

    When it comes to child abuse, women are more likely than men to be the abuser.

    Right. Now that “child abuse” has been redefined to mean almost any physical punishment, that’s true. But you know perfectly well that’s not what we’re talking about.

    You manosphere douchebags just love to gloat about how much stronger you are than us. That’s true, of course, but than it’s quite silly (and kind of pathetic) of you to expect society to care as much about female on male violence as the reverse.

  303. dfordoom says: • Website
    @Reg Cæsar

    Prohibition was Progressivism. Progressivism is still with us, like termites. Only the McGuffin has changed. Some white man somewhere is having fun.

    Yep. Historically Progressivism was all about stamping out fun. 19th and early 20th century Progressivism was incredibly moralistic and miserable. Not surprising since its roots were in Puritanism. If it feels good it’s wrong!

    Feminism was a major part of early Progressivism and feminists have never lost that instinct to stop people from enjoying themselves.

  304. vinteuil says:
    @Peter Frost

    Whatever Trump’s faults — and they were many — being obsessed about race wasn’t one of them.

    Can’t agree. If he was obsessed with anything, it was with proving how anti-racist he was – forever harping on what he’d done for blacks & hispanics, rarely if ever saying a word in defense of the white gentile working class that voted him into office in the first place.

    • Agree: bruce county, sayless
  305. JimDandy says:
    @Rosie

    So, nearly a quarter of the time, it’s a woman killing a man?

    So, your argument is that we shouldn’t be hearing about the dangers of woman-on-man abuse 50% of the time, we should be hearing about those dangers, like, 25% of the time–rather than the current approximately 0% of the time?

    So, a 25% increase then. Sounds good to me.

    • Replies: @Rosie
  306. Marty T says:
    @Dumbo

    Exactly. Is there anyone, left, right or center, who likes Jennifer Rubin?

    • Replies: @anon
  307. dfordoom says: • Website
    @alt right moderate

    This portrayal of the Democrats as economic leftists is tiresome and greatly exaggerated. They wouldn’t get so much big tech money if they were true socialists. Yes, they offer a little more “free shit” than the Republicans, but they are still pretty much a low tax, pro-business party that is controlled by big business.

    Yep.

  308. @Rosie

    Do domestic violence crimes by blacks against their White girlfriends and wives figure in your equation Rosie? Of course not. Lesbian couples are a violent lot, also. White men are the least of it. As regards child abuse, do you count boyfriends and second, third and fourth husbands abusing the children in your equation? Of course not. And God forbid we count self-inflicted injuries by women to bolster restraining orders. Tally it all up, these and many more, it’s clear the depravity of women overwhelmingly contribute to their own “misery” (women LOVE the attention and sympathy). God, what lies you promote and support. You never fail us, Rosie.

    • Agree: Achmed E. Newman
    • Replies: @Rosie
  309. dfordoom says: • Website
    @Rosie

    Or something like that. Anyway, the problem here becomes that people get bogged down in arguments about characterization. “Is this progressivism?” Rather than, “Is this a good idea?”

    That’s a valid point. I think 19th and early 20th century Progressives did tend towards favouring rigid social control and moral crusades and did tend to be suspicious of fun. But of course that doesn’t mean they were wrong about everything.

    No political movement is wrong about everything. Whether it’s socialism, fascism, libertarianism, the dissident right, BLM, environmentalism, even globalism – they aren’t necessarily wrong about everything. Even those movements that are wrong about most things usually turn out to be right about some things.

    • Agree: Dissident
  310. Rosie says:
    @JimDandy

    So, nearly a quarter of the time, it’s a woman killing a man?

    So, your argument is that we shouldn’t be hearing about the dangers of woman-on-man abuse 50% of the time, we should be hearing about those dangers, like, 25% of the time–rather than the current approximately 0% of the time?

    So, a 25% increase then. Sounds good to me.

    I don’t think you don’t understand how domestic violence works. Men don’t just up and kill women. It’s a gradual escalation that starts with physical abuse that gets worse and worse over time. Before the killings, there are black eyes, broken bones, etc.

    I don’t think it works that way with murders of men by women. I don’t think murders of men by women are the culmination of years of abuse driven by a desire to control. Rather, I would assume such killings would be motivated by, say, a desire to get insurance proceeds or something like that. Don’t get me wrong. I’m certainly not saying that such killings are any less egregious. Rather, I’m simply saying that domestic violence by women against men is not the same kind of warning sign that it is when it’s the other way around. Of course, I could be wrong. In which case, Lord knows I wouldn’t object to saving men’s lives.

    I must say, I don’t really understand your concern here. I think you know as well as I do that a man is more capable of defending himself against aggression by a woman than the reverse. It almost seems like a sort of tu quoque attempt to minimize the problem, though I would rather not think that.

    • Replies: @JimDandy
  311. I see Wiki lists Rubin’s birth year as 1961/62 — perhaps she was emotionally damaged during this exceptionally long delivery

    • LOL: Achmed E. Newman
  312. anon[402] • Disclaimer says:
    @Marty T

    Is there anyone, left, right or center, who likes Jennifer Rubin?

  313. @Reg Cæsar

    Thank you, Reg, for this comment and for standing up for and explaining the Constitution in some others. Your comments have been hits with me lately.

    Mason is just too far gone as a Socialist to even be able to reason with. Let me tell you both a quick story anyway:

    My wife had something that could have been serious (a doctor friend told me on the phone that she’d better have it checked out, just in case), and we didn’t have insurance at the time. We went into the emergency room. There were a number of obviously illegal aliens in there. I really wanted to just give out BS info. to the lady at the counter, but I couldn’t do it in a pinch.

    My wife was behind the counter for 20-30 minutes, and the Doc saw her for 5 or 10 minutes. Doc’s bill was $300, while the ER bill was $1,300. Though my doctor friend told me they can’t start screwing with you if you pay even 1 buck per month, I just paid the whole doctor’s bill, and about $300 of the ER bill, before I’d had enough.

    After a few months, I got some nasty mail and called up the billing department. “Hey, $300 is pretty reasonable for 1/2 an hour, and you all didn’t have to do squat anyway.” “Sir, blah, blah… blah, that’s the charges …” “Listen, I don’t mind paying for my wife, but I’m not gonna pay for 5 illegal aliens along with her.” Oh, now the guy was taken aback. He didn’t like this PIC stuff. He said something, and I hung up, and they never got another dime. It helps that I don’t give a damn about my credit rating – it’s mostly dashes anyway on the score, as I haven’t had any loan or CC in a couple of decades.

  314. dfordoom says: • Website
    @Rosie

    Me too, but then that was Holy wine, which I think has a special property of never causing men to beat their wives and kids, unlike the regular, non-holy kind. That seems to be a weakness that is particular to men. Women certainly make very bad decisions when drunk, but they don’t seem to be prone to violence.

    You’ve clearly never met any lesbians. Their domestic violence rates are sky-high and it’s mostly fuelled by alcohol.

    BTW, I’m not arguing that alcohol-fuelled violence by men isn’t a problem.

    Of all the forbidden topics lesbian domestic violence is probably the most forbidden. And I’ve personally known cases where it went as far as attempted murder. And yes, alcohol was involved.

  315. dfordoom says: • Website
    @Rosie

    Domestic violence is an issue that the manosphere has no solution for other than to wave it off.

    I sort of agree, up to a point. But female domestic violence (particularly against children and sometimes going as far as murder) is a huge problem that no-one is allowed to talk about. And heterosexual women do commit acts of violence against husbands. Including murder. It’s much more common than people think.

    It’s also by no means uncommon for wives to poison their husbands, a crime that is difficult to detect and difficult to prosecute. Because it’s difficult to detect it may be much more common that is generally supposed.

    One of the reasons men get annoyed by discussions about domestic violence is that so many feminists refuse to acknowledge that it’s a crime quite often committed by women.

    Prohibition was at least an attempt to solve a problem in a constructive and proactive way that would best serve the interests of the family as a whole, whatever its demerits, which, as I said, may well have outweighed its merits.

    I can see your point but Prohibition was a bit like arguing that the best way to stop fatal car accidents is to ban cars. Or the best way to prevent fatal accidents in bathrooms (which are extremely common) is to ban bathrooms.

    I think there’s an unwillingness on the part of both feminists and the manosphere to enter into sensible discussions on these issues.

    • Replies: @Rosie
  316. dfordoom says: • Website
    @Stan Adams

    To the extent that white men are the most productive members of our society, and to the extent that members of other groups want the government to confiscate and redistribute the wealth created by white men … then, yes, the Democrats are socialist.

    Are you actually arguing that the Democrats want to confiscate and redistribute the wealth of white billionaires? Or even the wealth of upper middle class whites?

    For the Democrats it’s all about class warfare. Like the Republicans they only hate poor whites.

    • Replies: @Stan Adams
  317. MEH 0910 says:

  318. gregor says:

    This is really rich coming from a neo-con, the most despised and discredited group in American politics. Someone should have made a list of those people after the Iraq War.

  319. JimDandy says:
    @Rosie

    Interesting monologue, considering the fact that I’m absolutely sure that you know that many men are under a psychological spell, which makes them, despite their superior strength, the “victims” of female physical abuse. Furthermore, I also know that you know that it’s not really the superior physical strength of men that keeps long-term male-on-female domestic abuse going in most cases, but, rather, that same psychological spell. If someone feels that they have been physically assaulted, they can call the authorities–and when it’s male-on-female, the authorities WILL act. If a woman submits over a period of time to a culture of what amounts to domestic corporal punishment, I’m enough of a male feminist to assert that she is an adult and has agency. I don’t believe that psychological spells should be punished by the rule of law. I believe that physical assaults that the alleged victims officially state that they want the government to address should be addressed.

    • Replies: @Rosie
  320. Rob McX says:
    @Mr. Anon

    There’s also the possibility of hacking attacks that would throw everything into chaos – electricity supplies, factory equipment, even motor vehicles. People would wake up to a Mad Max wasteland. That’s more likely in the foreseeable future than food and other vital supplies just being used up.

  321. Rosie says:
    @Jim Christian

    Do domestic violence crimes by blacks against their White girlfriends and wives figure in your equation Rosie?

    Unfortunately for you, Jim, the timing of intimate partner homicide statistics (from the Great Formerly white North) leave no doubt that White men are not immune to this. Intimate partner homicide was actually more common in the 1970s, when miscegenation was still extremely rare.

    Since you like to pretend that feminism was a reaction to nothing whatsoever, this chart is embarrassing for you. The facts remain nonetheless. And remember, for every woman killed, many more were brutalized and humiliated in their own homes.

  322. Rosie says:
    @JimDandy

    If someone feels that they have been physically assaulted, they can call the authorities–and when it’s male-on-female, the authorities WILL act.

    Right, precisely because of the greater risk in said violence eventuating in death or serious bodily harm.

    I believe that physical assaults that the alleged victims officially state that they want the government to address should be addressed.

    Hmmm. If you want to advocate for that, feel free. I don’t have strong feelings either way.

  323. Rosie says:
    @dfordoom

    You’ve clearly never met any lesbians. Their domestic violence rates are sky-high and it’s mostly fuelled by alcohol.

    OK. Lesbians aren’t normal women, but so noted.

    One of the reasons men get annoyed by discussions about domestic violence is that so many feminists refuse to acknowledge that it’s a crime quite often committed by women.

    Doom, the facts are what they are. I’ll grant you that domestic violence is “often committed by women.” The fact remains that serious casualties are overwhelmingly inflicted by men.

    I can see your point but Prohibition was a bit like arguing that the best way to stop fatal car accidents is to ban cars. Or the best way to prevent fatal accidents in bathrooms (which are extremely common) is to ban bathrooms.

    No Doom. The DV solution that was analogous to your examples was the radical feminist separatist position that attacked marriage as such and advised women to avoid it. Prohibition was an attempt at a conservative solution that affirmed the essential goodness of men and the institution of marriage.

    That said, thank you for attempting to reasonable about this issue. There is obviously a great deal of sensitivity and defensiveness about it. I didn’t intend to go on the attack against men, but Reg insinuated that women are petty totalitarians as evidenced by Prohibition, and I think this is very unfair.

    Fortunately, plea bargains can be used to impose Prohibition on violent drunks. If you beat your spouse, you’re going to be put on probation on of the conditions of which is not drinking alcohol

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    , @dfordoom
    , @Curle
  324. @dfordoom

    I agree with you except for your calling DUI checkpoints “petty restrictions on freedom”. They are not at all petty, as the illegal search and/or seizure is a major worry of any freedom-understanding people such as those who write the US Constitution. Less than a decade after the unConstitutional traffic stops, people were just fine with (OK, not all of us) the TSA searching and groping. (“All for our own good, you understand…”)

    BTW, I meant to bring up and example of an actual “petty restriction”, but each one I thought of, upon reflection, turned out to still be something fundamentally wrong. My example was going to be city ordinances about no inside furniture (like couches or big chair) allowed on front porches. The whole thing is silly, but when you think of the government telling you what kind of furniture you can have on your own property, well, it’s ALWAYS a slippery slope.

    Thanks for the reply, DforDoom. I do agree with your take on people’s support of “the blue line” and all that. Did you read Michelle Malkin’s take on her experience a few months back in Colorado? I gotta say, that’s pretty ironic, having the cops (except maybe one guy) stand down, per “ORDERS”, and let her and her cohorts get beat up or near that, when they were out there demonstrating in support of the police. Haha! It’s not at all like a black fly in your Chardonnay – it actually IS ironic.

    • Replies: @dfordoom
  325. “Don’t kid yourselves. They’ve always had a list.”

    In the documentary by Al Jezeera called ‘The ((Lobby))’, the use of powerful counter-insurgency software was discussed.

    This software, developed by American and Israeli intelligence, was field tested in Gaza and Iraq, among other places.

    In Israel’s global war against the BDS movement, they focused their counter-insurgency tools against U.S. campus activists. The bedrock of counter-insurgency software is the data base of people to watch, which dovetails with social credit scoring (if one wants to take it to that level).

    Super computers can effortlessly compile data about vast groups of people, and narrow down to those who are most active in a programmed set of parameters.

  326. @dfordoom

    Are you actually arguing that the Democrats want to confiscate and redistribute the wealth of white billionaires? Or even the wealth of upper middle class whites?

    Key components of the Democratic base want this to happen, yes. Certainly most blacks do. Even a modest reparations scheme would involve vast transfers of wealth.

    You might believe that all of this talk about reparations and “social justice” and “economic equity” and “ending systemic racism” is nothing more than talk – red meat for the Democratic base – and you might be right. But the bottom line is that blacks’ expectations have been raised. We’ve already blown trillions of dollars on these people and now they’re demanding trillions more.

    The billionaires who control the party have deployed BLM and Antifa as shock troops to advance the anti-Trump cause. Now that the elites have dragged Biden’s carcass across the finish line, they plan to stand down. They assume that the blacks will fall obediently into line once the new regime sweetens the welfare and affirmative-action honeypots.

    But what happens if Biden can’t throw them enough bones to keep them happy? What happens if the blacks decide that the white Democrat in the White House isn’t rewarding their loyalty with enough piles of goodies? What if they decide to make trouble, and the party leaders can’t talk them down? What if they start going on the rampage?

    The prospect of Biden ordering federal troops to defend the White House against a black insurrection is quite ironic. No doubt the media would cover for him – “Don’t blame the blacks! It was a secret white-supremacist plot!” But the resulting fractures in the Coalition of the Fringes would destroy the party.

    Our fearless leaders believe they will always be able to maintain control of the golem. What if they’re wrong?

    • Replies: @dfordoom
    , @Curle
  327. Gamecock says:

    Criminalize opposition. How Naziish of them.

    • Agree: JimDandy
  328. Seneca44 says:
    @Anon7

    The US MSM will never insist that JB do anything which might put him in an unflattering light. They only give token opposition to their chosen politicians; cf press treatment of Obama, Clinton, etc. More likely his coalition of the fringes will start to self destruct with internecine squabbles over who gets the biggest slice of the redistribution pie.

  329. Dissident says:
    @Rob McX

    The term “conservative” needs to be qualified by stating which ethnic group you wish to conserve.

    Actually, it’s difficult to imagine too many people more likely to generate resentment and hostility toward Jews than Ms. Rubin…

  330. @Rosie

    I must admit I am impressed.

    I thought women killed men at 1-2%. Now I see it is fascinating 22.5%.

    Kudos!

  331. @Rosie

    but Reg insinuated that women are petty totalitarians as evidenced by Prohibition

    I did not. I responded to another commenter who did.

    I have consistently defended women here when they were more right than were men– e.g., for opposing ERA and legal abortion, and foreign war adventures, to a greater extent. Phyllis Schlafly is a heroine of mine. (She was Catholic and married into a clan of German brewers, so she probably had a different view of beer from yours.)

    I also defend nonwhites for maintaining their natural disgust for buggery. Whites look completely stupid on this.

    Prohibitionists did not represent the majority of women in America. (Though they were certainly more popular with them than were the suffragists. Check out Bill Kauffman’s account of the unfairly forgotten Antis.)

    I don’t have a lot of respect for the suffragettes, but make an exception for Jeannette Rankin and Sylvia Pankhurst who made sincere attempts to keep the men who led their countries’ boys– while agreeing to suffrage!– into the meat grinder that was the continent.

    Miss Pankhurst publicly called out her more celebrated mother and sister on this, and paid for it. She apparently gave up on her race and moved to Ethiopia. After the “progressive” Great War, who could blame her?

    • Replies: @Rosie
  332. Rosie says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    I did not. I responded to another commenter who did.

    OK, I stand corrected, but in any event, someone did that. I wasn’t trying to personally attack you or anyone else anyway. I was just defending the Temperance Movement. I don’t think you’re one of those gratuitous spewers of irrational hate around here. If I did I’d say so. I just disagree with you about this.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  333. El Dato says:

    More commentary on listmaking and de-trumpization at RT

    Gloating neocons proposing ideological genocide hint at what’s really on the menu when Biden ‘builds back better’

    Looking forward to a reboot of “Tintin in America”.

    Also, at “The Intercept”: After a slew of insults against Trump, we learn that the only thing that actually worked in the US during the Trump Age was “the Squad” and the “BLM” “social movement” as apparently endorsed by Chomsky.

    Why does The Intercept allow reality-deficient people who don’t even take Chomsky seriously to write?

    But while the possibilities in front of us are real, we should not deceive ourselves about what we learned about this country during our nightmarish Time of Trump. There are no benevolent adults in charge. Anything at all can happen. The time to start fighting to prevent a future, even more terrifying Trump is now.

  334. @dfordoom

    Feminism was a major part of early Progressivism and feminists have never lost that instinct to stop people from enjoying themselves.

    And each other.

  335. @YetAnotherAnon

    That’s weird, the article says Trump is “heavily trailing” now. Must have been edited since your link to reflect updated wishful thinking.

  336. dfordoom says: • Website
    @Rosie

    That said, thank you for attempting to reasonable about this issue. There is obviously a great deal of sensitivity and defensiveness about it.

    Yep. And I certainly do agree with you that male-on-female domestic violence is totally unacceptable and it is a major problem and alcohol is a major factor. That’s one thing that feminists are right about.

    I didn’t intend to go on the attack against men, but Reg insinuated that women are petty totalitarians as evidenced by Prohibition, and I think this is very unfair.

    Some women are petty totalitarians (but then some men are petty totalitarians as well). In the 19th-early 20th century many Christians definitely were petty totalitarians (and some still would be if they could get away with it). And many Progressives were petty totalitarians. Unfortunately there will always be some people who find petty totalitarianism attractive (that’s one thing that libertarians are right about).

    But of course there are plenty of women who dislike petty totalitarianism.

    And there are even dissident rightists who would become petty totalitarians if they got the chance.

    I do think that the problem of female domestic violence against children needs to be addressed and I do think it’s a subject that has been declared off-limits by the feminists. That’s one thing that (most) feminists are wrong about.

    plea bargains can be used to impose Prohibition on violent drunks. If you beat your spouse, you’re going to be put on probation on of the conditions of which is not drinking alcohol

    That’s a better solution than Prohibition.

    Both sides need to calm down and admit that the other side has some valid points to make.

    Another issue that doesn’t get addressed is the effects of other drugs besides alcohol. Cannabis can make people paranoid and aggressive. I’ve seen it happen. Maybe it’s not the case for most cannabis users but some cannabis users can become violent. Prescription drugs such as SSRIs can also have unpredictable effects on some people. It can make them emotionally dead and emotionally dead people are a worry. It’s possible that this could have an effect on domestic violence. Society also needs to address the problem of people who consume alcohol and cannabis and SSRIs all at once. Drug cocktails may be causing problems with violence.

    Antidepressants can also totally destroy sexual function which can be a recipe for marital problems which might in turn lead to violence. As a society we’re consuming an awful lot of drugs with unpredictable effects.

    • Replies: @Rosie
  337. dfordoom says: • Website
    @Achmed E. Newman

    I agree with you except for your calling DUI checkpoints “petty restrictions on freedom”. They are not at all petty,

    Actually we’re in full agreement. I was using the word “petty” as a description of a state of mind. But in fact I agree that most of these “petty restrictions on freedom” are actually outrageous and unreasonable and even tyrannical.

    My example was going to be city ordinances about no inside furniture (like couches or big chair) allowed on front porches. The whole thing is silly, but when you think of the government telling you what kind of furniture you can have on your own property, well, it’s ALWAYS a slippery slope.

    A good example. In fact it’s a great example of the mindset we’re dealing with. It is genuinely shocking that people put up with such nonsense. And as I said in my earlier comment this is a big thing that is happening throughout the Anglosphere. It’s not something that is peculiar to the US.

    I have a feeling that it’s an inevitable consequence of democracy (and/or mass media). Democracy leads inevitably to the belief that everything anyone does is everybody else’s business and that leads inevitably to the belief that everything anyone does is the government’s business and the government needs more laws.

    It also leads to the belief that it’s OK for corporations to start minding their employees’ business and even minding their consumers’ business. Thus we end up with not just the government but private corporations forcing more and more rules onto us. And of course it leads to the belief that it’s OK for people (such as environmentalists and feminists) to force their opinions and their rules onto corporations, so it cuts both ways.

  338. Curle says:
    @Rosie

    “but Reg insinuated that women are petty totalitarians as evidenced by Prohibition, and I think this is very unfair.”

    Correct. Women are petty totalitarians because eggs are more valuable than sperm and they’ve cornered the market.

    • Troll: Rosie
  339. Rosie says:
    @dfordoom

    Feminism was a major part of early Progressivism and feminists have never lost that instinct to stop people from enjoying themselves.

    Tell that to the incel crowd. They’re convinced feminism is all about the “cock carousel.” In any event, yes some kinds of “fun” come with too high a human cost.

    • Replies: @Art Deco
  340. @Rosie

    I was just defending the Temperance Movement

    I’m all for temperance, in its literal sense, but prohibitionists were anything but temperate. Where was their moderation?

    A paternal great-great-grandmother was in the WCTU. Three of my four maternal ones were German, and I’ve inherited their innate moderation. So I don’t like drunks any more than I do Drys.

  341. @dfordoom

    19th and early 20th century Progressivism was incredibly moralistic and miserable. Not surprising since its roots were in Puritanism…

    …which roots were in Calvinism, which roots were in Protestantism itself.

    America went down the road to gay marriage in 1621, when William Bradford, at the first wedding in Plymouth, took pains to tell the congregation assembled mob that he was acting only as a magistrate, not as a man of the cloth.

    • Replies: @dfordoom
  342. MEH 0910 says:

    “BURN THE REPUBLICAN PARTY DOWN WITH NO SURVIVORS!” – Jennifer Rubin – Count Every Vote

    Jennifer Rubin of the Washington Post says the entire Republican party should burn down with no survivors. This is a Conservative Columnist working for the Washington Post!

  343. MEH 0910 says:
    @B36

    Her tweets so often have a strange, extreme quality, suggesting actual mental illness.

    Agreed.

  344. dfordoom says: • Website
    @Stan Adams

    Are you actually arguing that the Democrats want to confiscate and redistribute the wealth of white billionaires? Or even the wealth of upper middle class whites?

    Key components of the Democratic base want this to happen, yes. Certainly most blacks do. Even a modest reparations scheme would involve vast transfers of wealth.

    I’ll make a confident prediction. Whoever ends up paying for reparations it won’t be wealthy whites.

    It might be middle-class whites, especially lower middle class whites, who pay. Or it might be the magic money printer. It won’t be wealthy whites. Being wealthy makes you automatically a goodwhite. Only badwhites will pay.

    • Replies: @Stan Adams
  345. Curle says:
    @Stan Adams

    “You might believe that all of this talk about reparations and “social justice” and “economic equity” and “ending systemic racism” is nothing more than talk – red meat for the Democratic base – and you might be right.”

    It’s purpose is to demoralize whites, to suppress the white vote and to lower resistance to favoritism for blacks and other members of the minorities + Jews + wealthy whites + bitter single women coalition.

  346. dfordoom says: • Website
    @Reg Cæsar

    19th and early 20th century Progressivism was incredibly moralistic and miserable. Not surprising since its roots were in Puritanism…

    …which roots were in Calvinism, which roots were in Protestantism itself.

    Yep.

  347. Curle says:
    @AndrewR

    “The reason the Jewish left fears him so much is because he is, unquestionably, the most successful demagogue in US history.”

    They fear him because he plays the messaging game at Jeff Zucker, FDR and maybe even Trotsky’s, level. Except he’s neither Jewish and maybe not even on their payroll.

  348. @Reg Cæsar

    There are other bad amendments– the 23rd, to be sure– but the 18th is unique in that the question it addressed comes nowhere near a constitutional subject.

    If it’s in the constitution, then by definition it’s a constitutional subject. Also, you only think the 23rd is a bad amendment because DC has voted for the Democrat every time.

  349. @Rosie

    Women certainly make very bad decisions when drunk, but they don’t seem to be prone to violence.

    Talk the children of alcoholic moms and you will see this is a false statement.

    • Replies: @Rosie
  350. Rosie says:
    @dfordoom

    I do think that the problem of female domestic violence against children needs to be addressed and I do think it’s a subject that has been declared off-limits by the feminists. That’s one thing that (most) feminists are wrong about.

    I certainly agree with you that nothing should be declared off-limits. Whether that particular subject has in fact been declared off-limits or not is another question. I don’t know. I so rarely consume Big Media that I don’t really know what is going on.

    One of the things that has given feminism such a bad name, among the vast majority of women as well as men, is that, in practice, it hasn’t been open and reasonable. It’s kind of like that “conversation about race” that winds up being a monologue.

    Another issue that doesn’t get addressed is the effects of other drugs besides alcohol. Cannabis can make people paranoid and aggressive. I’ve seen it happen.

    Yes, previous generations have massively underestimated the deleterious effects of marijuana.

    Antidepressants can also totally destroy sexual function which can be a recipe for marital problems which might in turn lead to violence. As a society we’re consuming an awful lot of drugs with unpredictable effects.

    Yes, I suspect this is a huge problem. Of course, taking the antidepressants away might make matters worse. The challenge is to figure out why everyone is so sad, and I do think people are sad. I don’t think it’s just a pop psych fad.

    • Replies: @dfordoom
    , @Art Deco
  351. Rosie says:
    @ScarletNumber

    Talk the children of alcoholic moms and you will see this is a false statement.

    Good grief. What do you want me to do, conduct a survey? I don’t know enough such people to get any sort of useful sample.

    • Replies: @bruce county
  352. @Rosie

    Twenty years sober here. Though I still enjoy a glass of wine or a shot of whiskey here and there.
    Plenty of here’s and there’s during the last 4 years… I wonder why.

    My father was a very abusive drunk to us children and mom.
    My best friends mom was a horrible drunk.
    He found it safer to be around our house with my drunken father.

    There are no winners with alcoholism.

    • Replies: @Rosie
  353. Rosie says:
    @bruce county

    Twenty years sober here. Though I still enjoy a glass of wine or a shot of whiskey here and there.

    Wow. I’m surprised you can manage that. I don’t know very many recovering alcoholics, but the ones I do have to abstain completely.

    • Replies: @dfordoom
  354. dfordoom says: • Website
    @Rosie

    One of the things that has given feminism such a bad name, among the vast majority of women as well as men, is that, in practice, it hasn’t been open and reasonable. It’s kind of like that “conversation about race” that winds up being a monologue.

    I agree. And I’d also have to admit that many of the manosphere types are just as bad.

    As a society we’re consuming an awful lot of drugs with unpredictable effects.

    Yes, I suspect this is a huge problem. Of course, taking the antidepressants away might make matters worse. The challenge is to figure out why everyone is so sad, and I do think people are sad. I don’t think it’s just a pop psych fad.

    It may be an inevitable feature of modernity. Or it may be a sign that modern societies have taken a wrong turn. Is it possible to have a modern urbanised secular society that makes people happy? It would be interesting to know how things are turning out in this respect in places like Japan and Singapore. Are people in those places happier than people in the West? They seem to have less obvious dysfunction.

  355. dfordoom says: • Website
    @Rosie

    I don’t know very many recovering alcoholics, but the ones I do have to abstain completely.

    I’m sceptical of the whole “addiction” concept. I used to have a problem with booze. Now I’m a moderate drinker. I’m also sceptical of the idea that “if an alcoholic takes one drink he’s back to square one.”

    The concept of addiction is like a lot of concepts in psychology/psychiatry. It isn’t actual science. It’s junk science. And you have to remember that there is a thriving addiction industry – immense numbers of counsellors, therapists, etc, who make a very nice living out of it. They don’t want to permit any challenges to the addiction model. And there are also cults like Alcoholics Anonymous.

    There are certainly people who have huge problems with excessive use of alcohol, just as there are people who have huge problems with excessive use of cannabis, tranquillisers, gambling, sex and chocolate cake.

    I’m inclined to think that the problem is not an illness called “alcoholism” – the problem is people who drink too much. They drink too much because they’re weak-willed or lazy, or morally weak, or self-indulgent, or because their marriage didn’t work out, or because the cute guys (or cute girls) in high school wouldn’t date them, or because they failed in their careers.

    The Prohibitionists were wrong to think that it was the demon booze that was the problem. The problem was (and is) people who choose to drink too much.

  356. Art Deco says:
    @Rosie

    Uh, no. The ‘cock carousel’ is a reference to a particular aspect of girl culture. There is a feminist discourse which makes excuses for the cock carousel, but the two are not identified. And the term isn’t a signature of the phantom ‘incels’, but of manosphere critics of girl culture. (It was a common term on Dalrock’s boards).

    • Replies: @Rosie
  357. Art Deco says:
    @Rosie

    One of the things that has given feminism such a bad name, among the vast majority of women as well as men, is that, in practice, it hasn’t been open and reasonable.

    Feminism is the importation of the gamesmanship of domestic arguments into public discourse. It was never meant to be ‘open and reasonable’.

    • Agree: Johann Ricke
  358. Rosie says:
    @Art Deco

    Uh, no. The ‘cock carousel’ is a reference to a particular aspect of girl culture. There is a feminist discourse which makes excuses for the cock carousel, but the two are not identified. And the term isn’t a signature of the phantom ‘incels’, but of manosphere critics of girl culture. (It was a common term on Dalrock’s boards).

    I couldn’t care less about the ultimate provenance of that hogwash term.

    Feminism is the importation of the gamesmanship of domestic arguments into public discourse. It was never meant to be ‘open and reasonable’.

    Nor am I interested in your silly characterizations of the essence of feminism or your speculative claims about what it was “meant to be.”

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