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From The Guardian opinion section:

The ‘what about the children’ question is compelling but it is a straw man

The best I can do for remote communities is to do my job as a writer and hope to change the way people think

Claire Coleman for IndigenousX

Claire G. Coleman is a Wirlomin Noongar woman whose ancestral country is the deep south of Western Australia. Her debut novel, written while travelling around the country now called Australia was the recipient of a black&write! Indigenous writing fellowship. That novel Terra Nullius has been longlisted for a Stella prize and shortlisted for an Aurealis award.

Wed 6 Feb 2019 22.26

It’s hard work being an Aboriginal writer, columnist, activist; it’s hard work and risky sticking our necks out in this increasingly polarised, dangerous and, in my opinion, increasingly white-supremacist society we call Australia. I don’t mean hard work in the digging holes sort of way or risky in the dying at sea kinda way; the labour we perform is emotional, the risk is damage to our health and threats from the outside including death threats.

Yes, I have received death threats.

Any Indigenous person who writes anything on the topic of Indigenous rights and white privilege (and for some of us it’s our job); any of us who is “uppity” enough to dare to have an opinion on our own wellbeing and on the wellbeing of our own communities must do so knowing we will be attacked and trolled.

This is the risk we take, particularly in January when it appears whitefellas are particularly sensitive. They build straw men, make logical leaps so broad I would have thought them only possible by superheroes and produce facts they refuse to back up – because there is no evidence. Then they tell us they have won the argument.

There is one particular straw man that has irritated me this month because it is insidious, compelling and effective. Essentially, it works, but not because it is brilliant logic. It works because it is emotionally powerful; it can shake us to the core. We fail again and again to avoid it, and the people who use it think it’s the killer gambit. Sometimes it is.

It is hard to come up with a reasonable response that the sort of people who would ask that question will accept. Recently it was thrown at us in a nuclear-style scorched Earth attack by Kerri-Anne Kennerley, who trolled the Indigenous population on her platform on Channel Ten. A week before that someone dropped it in my path hoping I would fall over it, imagining that as soon as it was deployed they had won the argument.

You’ve seen it before.

What are you doing for the children in remote communities?”

The best response is one that will leave the argument in pieces: I am not a social worker, therapist, medical doctor or a member of any other profession that would qualify me to do the necessary social work on the ground. I am not a parent or a member of the Indigenous families or the communities this question relates to. I have no particular skills in dealing with suicide, alcoholism or social problems; I have not been trained at this sort of work.

What use would I be in that sort of situation? I would merely get in the way.

Indeed. To encourage us to find common ground, I hereby agree with Claire G. Coleman that Claire G. Coleman should stay far away from children.

 
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  1. She looks like if Diamanda Galas had a baby with Peter Steele from Type O Negative.

    • Replies: @Anon
    @Daniel Williams

    Ha! I think her hair color is Black No. 1, but don’t touch it!

    , @larry lurker
    @Daniel Williams

    Favorite Diamanda Galas shriek is probably this one at 5:46 (shame about the overproduction here, she doesn't need it):

    http://youtu.be/Du8ru1SiXR4?t=5m39s

  2. Iggy Azalea, the slut “blond white” rapper, is really an aboriginal girl who is an old-fashioned passer—she has white blood, and fair skin, so pretends she’s a blond, but she’s majority abo, having a genetic disease only abos have.

    Snoop Dogg called her out on being a passer when he made fun of her, comparing her to the Wayans Brothers in white face in White Chicks.

    • Replies: @Unzerker
    @R.G. Camara

    In the time you typed this nonsense you could easily have googled some pictures of her parents.
    Your story is obviously a lie.

    https://i1.wp.com/celebrityinside.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/iggy-azalea-family-tree.jpg

    https://i2.wp.com/celebrityinside.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/Iggy-Azalea-Father.jpg

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon, @Truth

    , @Ian Smith
    @R.G. Camara

    http://38.media.tumblr.com/5a03a61ca7fa748d36e382d7062122a1/tumblr_n5s2ezk04U1suvfalo1_500.gif

    I’d hit it.

  3. She has a didgeridoo between her legs.

  4. hahahhahahhahahhaahhhaaaaaaaaa! because the Outback was taken over by the C….

  5. in my opinion, increasingly white-supremacist society we call Australia

    The White Australia policy has been revived? Excellent news!

    It’s hard work being an Aboriginal writer

    Writer? Cultural appropriation!

  6. They Ain’t Making Australian Aboriginal Women Like They Used to

    It’s been a long time since Evonne Goolagong won fourteen grand slam titles in tennis.

    • Replies: @The Alarmist
    @PiltdownMan

    It actually looks like a cross between Evonne Goolagong and Ozzy Osbourne.

    , @Mr. Grey
    @PiltdownMan

    Goolagong was an outlier. The Hedy Lamarr of aborigines.

    , @Buffalo Joe
    @PiltdownMan

    Pilt, I am sorry, but I really thing she is a he, and Evonne was a star in the tennis world before all the grunters took over.

    , @teo toon
    @PiltdownMan

    Are you surethat that is a "cis-het" female?

  7. it’s all over. Fun and Games and all that. It’s gone on the Western coast earlier. I am so sorry for being such a downer – but, that is my skill.

  8. Forget women! No one had cared about females for 50 years! Democrats/Progressives/Communists can can not have game to to even have a tooth brush! hhahahahahahaaaaa!

  9. Wow. I hadn’t heard that Ozzy was transitioning while taking a breather down under. The weather is doing wonders for his skin.

    • Agree: YetAnotherAnon
  10. First we get “jogger”, then came “bird watcher.”

    Now we get “noongar” while Minneapolis burns down. It’s been a boring couple of months, but things are picking up!

    • Agree: Truth
    • Replies: @Truth
    @BenKenobi

    Yes, I'm excited. Prez Camacho somehow miraculously figured out a way to rid the US of police shootings for the first 3 1/2 years of his administration. Then his ra tings plummeted with his closing 90% of the businesses in America, and POOF! the shootings came back.

  11. OT:

    On East Lake Street in Minneapolis outside the MN 3rd District Police Department. #GeorgeFloyd pic.twitter.com/DmSEm37m3Y— Linda Sarsour (@lsarsour) May 28, 2020

    • Replies: @danand
    @anon


    “On East Lake Street in Minneapolis outside the MN 3rd District Police Department.”
     
    The landscape in front of that department has now been cleared (burnt to the ground). I guess just another “change we can believe in”.


    “Donnell Cooper, one of George Floyd's former classmates, said he remembered watching Floyd score touchdowns. Floyd towered over everyone and earned the nickname "gentle giant."

    Floyd was charged in 2007 with armed robbery in a home invasion in Houston and in 2009 was sentenced to five years in prison as part of a plea deal, according to court documents.

    Harris, Floyd's childhood friend, said he and some of their mutual friends had moved to Minneapolis in search of victims jobs around 2014. Harris said he talked Floyd into moving there as well after he got out of prison.”

    Wonder how many months it will take George’s family to burn through the coming $30M in reparations.

    Replies: @Alden

  12. The White woman — the one with the glasses –should take her aside and inform her that she has something hanging from her nose.

  13. Tusk says:

    She would ‘get in the way’ but when Whites stepped in to stop violence, child sexual abuse, alcoholism, life-long failure to achieve anything, they were castigated and slandered continually. If this so called “Aboriginal” woman thinks that being asked to do something for the community is a strawman we have reached peak grifting where losers expect to do nothing of value but cash in simply on being brown.

    • Agree: Unit472
  14. Anonymous[437] • Disclaimer says:

    I bet she’s hung like a horse – or as they say Down Under – hung like a didgeridoo.

  15. there is not enough time, today, to care about gender!

  16. OT

    Coronavirus death toll is heavily concentrated in Democratic congressional districts

    …Of the more than 92,000 Americans who had died of COVID-19…75,000 were in Democratic congressional districts.

    …Of the 44 hardest-hit congressional districts – the top 10% in terms of deaths – 41 are represented by Democrats, while three are represented by Republicans.

    …About two-thirds (68%) of the 44 least affected districts – the bottom 10%, with an average 13 deaths in each district – are represented by Republicans in Congress.

    • Replies: @Rob McX
    @Hippopotamusdrome

    It's obviously a Russian bio-plot to get Trump elected again.

  17. Aboriginies are clearly Australia’s “white man’s burden” …

  18. I don’t think that half of the notable “blacks” in the US actually have any more African ancestry than this women has Aborigines ancestry.

    The main difference is that African traits seem to be more dominant than Aborigines traits are. So it’s not quite as easy to laugh at quadroons in America like Shaun King and Ben Jealous leading the black community, since they have visible African traits. On the other hand, a quadroon in Australia will look basically white, so you have to think WTF when they’re leading the Aborigines community.

    • Agree: Colin Wright
    • Replies: @anon
    @7777ggg


    I don’t think that half of the notable “blacks” in the US actually have any more African ancestry than this women has Aborigines ancestry.
     
    She wouldn't even have an eighth Aborigine.Worth noting that Aborigines in Western Australia are a different race of Aborigine. They are A Blood Type, the ones on the east are O blood type.
    Both Evonne Goolagong's parents were part Aboriginal, she would be a half caste at most.

    The main difference is that African traits seem to be more dominant than Aborigines traits are.
     
    That's true.
    There was a bloke who had always believed he had some aboriginal blood who checked it out in order to get a low interest home loan from the Federal Government. Turned out he wasn't, but was a descendant of a negro who came out on either the First or Second Fleet in 1788-89.
    So, after 9 generations it was still noticeable.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Jim Bob Lassiter, @Ron X

    , @Gunnar von Cowtown
    @7777ggg

    Until Shaun King takes a public DNA test, he's 100% white and 100% larping.

    Don't encourage him by giving him quadroon status.

  19. @Hippopotamusdrome
    OT


    Coronavirus death toll is heavily concentrated in Democratic congressional districts

    ...Of the more than 92,000 Americans who had died of COVID-19...75,000 were in Democratic congressional districts.

    ...Of the 44 hardest-hit congressional districts – the top 10% in terms of deaths – 41 are represented by Democrats, while three are represented by Republicans.

    ...About two-thirds (68%) of the 44 least affected districts – the bottom 10%, with an average 13 deaths in each district – are represented by Republicans in Congress.

     

    Replies: @Rob McX

    It’s obviously a Russian bio-plot to get Trump elected again.

  20. There’s a Native author Steve mentioned once…
    Sherman something….

    Anyway he WAS VERY SENSITIVE when Colbert was interviewing him. Took questions personally etc.. I get the impression many of these writer types are sensitive ppl who get offended easy. REAL EASY.

    If it makes this lady’s self esteem to claim to be am aboriginal let her cover herself in her pathetic self pity blanket.

    Suicide and substance abuse will cull quite a large number of these folks over the next 20 to 30 yrs…..

    OT: Trump is apparently going after Big Tech HARD. Bout time.

    https://www.politico.com/amp/news/2020/05/27/trump-executive-order-social-media-twitter-285891

  21. Man who can resist the lure of the glorious buttf**k Socialist paradise ? Make it work Whitey .

  22. 3922867

    The Gods were created in our image .

  23. @R.G. Camara
    Iggy Azalea, the slut "blond white" rapper, is really an aboriginal girl who is an old-fashioned passer---she has white blood, and fair skin, so pretends she's a blond, but she's majority abo, having a genetic disease only abos have.

    Snoop Dogg called her out on being a passer when he made fun of her, comparing her to the Wayans Brothers in white face in White Chicks.

    Replies: @Unzerker, @Ian Smith

    In the time you typed this nonsense you could easily have googled some pictures of her parents.
    Your story is obviously a lie.

    • Replies: @YetAnotherAnon
    @Unzerker

    Iggy Azelia is Robert Plant's daughter?

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Docta Kang, @Mike Tre

    , @Truth
    @Unzerker

    "His" parents, Old Sport.

  24. @PiltdownMan

    They Ain't Making Australian Aboriginal Women Like They Used to
     
    It's been a long time since Evonne Goolagong won fourteen grand slam titles in tennis.

    https://i.imgur.com/0C94trf.jpg

    https://i.imgur.com/fzKKcDv.jpg

    Replies: @The Alarmist, @Mr. Grey, @Buffalo Joe, @teo toon

    It actually looks like a cross between Evonne Goolagong and Ozzy Osbourne.

    • LOL: Old Prude
  25. anon[199] • Disclaimer says:
    @7777ggg
    I don't think that half of the notable "blacks" in the US actually have any more African ancestry than this women has Aborigines ancestry.

    The main difference is that African traits seem to be more dominant than Aborigines traits are. So it's not quite as easy to laugh at quadroons in America like Shaun King and Ben Jealous leading the black community, since they have visible African traits. On the other hand, a quadroon in Australia will look basically white, so you have to think WTF when they're leading the Aborigines community.

    Replies: @anon, @Gunnar von Cowtown

    I don’t think that half of the notable “blacks” in the US actually have any more African ancestry than this women has Aborigines ancestry.

    She wouldn’t even have an eighth Aborigine.Worth noting that Aborigines in Western Australia are a different race of Aborigine. They are A Blood Type, the ones on the east are O blood type.
    Both Evonne Goolagong’s parents were part Aboriginal, she would be a half caste at most.

    The main difference is that African traits seem to be more dominant than Aborigines traits are.

    That’s true.
    There was a bloke who had always believed he had some aboriginal blood who checked it out in order to get a low interest home loan from the Federal Government. Turned out he wasn’t, but was a descendant of a negro who came out on either the First or Second Fleet in 1788-89.
    So, after 9 generations it was still noticeable.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @anon

    "There was a bloke who had always believed he had some aboriginal blood who checked it out in order to get a low interest home loan from the Federal Government. Turned out he wasn’t, but was a descendant of a negro who came out on either the First or Second Fleet in 1788-89."

    That's a good anecdote about the African vs. Aboriginal difference in dominance vs. recessiveness. Any link for it?

    Replies: @sb, @ogunsiron

    , @Jim Bob Lassiter
    @anon

    I wonder how his home loan application went.

    , @Ron X
    @anon

    Seriously?

    I have a very hard time imagining that anybody who’s 1/512 African will visually show it. Come on.

    You might not even inherit any African genes at that point.

  26. Off topic, a piece from Politico which blames “poverty” and “discrimination” for non-whites dying from COVID-19 at a higher rate than whites.

    The unequal epidemic
    In wealthy Western countries, COVID-19 is killing people of color at much higher rates.

    There is no conclusive answer as to why so many casualties in Western countries are ethnic and racial minorities, or why you would be four times likelier to die from coronavirus-related complications if you live in Newham rather than elsewhere in Britain. But recent studies have given us a sense of the factors responsible: decades of underfunding, discrimination, poverty and marginalization.

    Definitely nothing to do with Vitamin D. Definitely not.

    In times of crisis, people often search for scapegoats. If, for example, Muslims in Sweden have higher infection rates than white Swedes, there will no doubt be people who may attribute this not to comprehensible social factors but to cultural (or, worse, genetic and biological) factors.

    Muslims, immigrants and people of color — already the target of xenophobic, far-right, white-supremacist anger — could become frightening disease vectors to the population at large.

    Scapegoats are bad. Unless it’s white people, in which case you can blood libel them as using coronavirus-related racism (or something) to strike down black bodies in their prime.

    • Replies: @Docta Kang
    @Mishima Zaibatsu

    must be poverty and discrimination causing blacks to spread STDs at 5-15x the rate too

    , @Colin Wright
    @Mishima Zaibatsu

    '... xenophobic, far-right, white-supremacist anger...'

    It's a good thing, but how can we generate more of it and channel it more effectively?

  27. C’mon Steve… I’m not falling for that.

    It’s an old Monty Python skit, right?

    Which guy was it that always put the dress on and hilariously infuriated Old Maids of all ages? I only saw them on reruns but I know their style, and it’s right up there with that crazy video.

  28. White men really do run everything, eh?

    • Agree: jim jones
    • Replies: @dr kill
    @Simon in London

    Men are better than women at everything, including being women.

    Replies: @Truth

  29. @anon
    OT:

    On East Lake Street in Minneapolis outside the MN 3rd District Police Department. #GeorgeFloyd pic.twitter.com/DmSEm37m3Y— Linda Sarsour (@lsarsour) May 28, 2020
     

    Replies: @danand

    “On East Lake Street in Minneapolis outside the MN 3rd District Police Department.”

    The landscape in front of that department has now been cleared (burnt to the ground). I guess just another “change we can believe in”.

    “Donnell Cooper, one of George Floyd’s former classmates, said he remembered watching Floyd score touchdowns. Floyd towered over everyone and earned the nickname “gentle giant.”

    Floyd was charged in 2007 with armed robbery in a home invasion in Houston and in 2009 was sentenced to five years in prison as part of a plea deal, according to court documents.

    Harris, Floyd’s childhood friend, said he and some of their mutual friends had moved to Minneapolis in search of victims jobs around 2014. Harris said he talked Floyd into moving there as well after he got out of prison.”

    Wonder how many months it will take George’s family to burn through the coming $30M in reparations.

    • Replies: @Alden
    @danand

    I thought Mike Brown of Ferguson Mo was the gentle giant. Floyd was passing a $20 counterfeit bill. Too bad they killed him as the secret service could have questioned him and tracked back through the passers to whoever made the counterfeit money.

  30. @anon
    @7777ggg


    I don’t think that half of the notable “blacks” in the US actually have any more African ancestry than this women has Aborigines ancestry.
     
    She wouldn't even have an eighth Aborigine.Worth noting that Aborigines in Western Australia are a different race of Aborigine. They are A Blood Type, the ones on the east are O blood type.
    Both Evonne Goolagong's parents were part Aboriginal, she would be a half caste at most.

    The main difference is that African traits seem to be more dominant than Aborigines traits are.
     
    That's true.
    There was a bloke who had always believed he had some aboriginal blood who checked it out in order to get a low interest home loan from the Federal Government. Turned out he wasn't, but was a descendant of a negro who came out on either the First or Second Fleet in 1788-89.
    So, after 9 generations it was still noticeable.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Jim Bob Lassiter, @Ron X

    “There was a bloke who had always believed he had some aboriginal blood who checked it out in order to get a low interest home loan from the Federal Government. Turned out he wasn’t, but was a descendant of a negro who came out on either the First or Second Fleet in 1788-89.”

    That’s a good anecdote about the African vs. Aboriginal difference in dominance vs. recessiveness. Any link for it?

    • Replies: @sb
    @Steve Sailer

    In the past any dark skinned person in Australia was presumed to have aboriginal ancestry .
    A few were actually of African -via the Americas - ancestry .(I'm thinking of the Williams family of Australia rules football ) Although before Federation and the White Australia Policy there would have been a few Africans finding there way to Australia . If they were there legally there were then no special laws for non aboriginal non whites . A black African ( Carribbean ) cricketer played for Australia -which is a really big deal -in 1885 ( Samuel Morris )

    Some prominent Aboriginal activists of the 50s and 60s were of USA heritage ( Bobbi Sykes ) or Melanesian ( Faith Bandler ) Their wikipedia entries fail to mention that while they were widely presumed to be aboriginal and while not actually lying about it , that they were in no hurry to correct people's natural assumptions

    I recall a dark skinned bloke from my undergraduate days who was of most mediocre academic ability who ( amazingly ) ended up in the Diplomatic Service . In those days they never actually asked if you were of indigenous ancestry .
    (He actually had a Sri Lankan Tamil father studying in Australia and was the adopted out result of a fling . He was adopted by a well to do couple and sent to a posh school )

    , @ogunsiron
    @Steve Sailer

    Really? I really, really, really doubt that someone with a single african ancestor 9 generations ago has looks that still tell of the event. There is this lineage in Iceland that descends from a black sailor who settled there in the 19th century. I doubt they look different from other Icelanders.

    The man on the right is 25% african (Nigeria and not even fulani, based on his name):
    https://i.pinimg.com/originals/c0/73/cd/c073cdf60c34eb9d8c2e71e04ba0a976.jpg

  31. @Daniel Williams
    She looks like if Diamanda Galas had a baby with Peter Steele from Type O Negative.

    Replies: @Anon, @larry lurker

    Ha! I think her hair color is Black No. 1, but don’t touch it!

    • LOL: Daniel Williams
  32. @Simon in London
    White men really do run everything, eh?

    Replies: @dr kill

    Men are better than women at everything, including being women.

    • Replies: @Truth
    @dr kill

    I'm not sure I'd put it that way, but any cursory glance at any television show or movie would give your argument some gravitas.

  33. sb says:
    @Steve Sailer
    @anon

    "There was a bloke who had always believed he had some aboriginal blood who checked it out in order to get a low interest home loan from the Federal Government. Turned out he wasn’t, but was a descendant of a negro who came out on either the First or Second Fleet in 1788-89."

    That's a good anecdote about the African vs. Aboriginal difference in dominance vs. recessiveness. Any link for it?

    Replies: @sb, @ogunsiron

    In the past any dark skinned person in Australia was presumed to have aboriginal ancestry .
    A few were actually of African -via the Americas – ancestry .(I’m thinking of the Williams family of Australia rules football ) Although before Federation and the White Australia Policy there would have been a few Africans finding there way to Australia . If they were there legally there were then no special laws for non aboriginal non whites . A black African ( Carribbean ) cricketer played for Australia -which is a really big deal -in 1885 ( Samuel Morris )

    Some prominent Aboriginal activists of the 50s and 60s were of USA heritage ( Bobbi Sykes ) or Melanesian ( Faith Bandler ) Their wikipedia entries fail to mention that while they were widely presumed to be aboriginal and while not actually lying about it , that they were in no hurry to correct people’s natural assumptions

    I recall a dark skinned bloke from my undergraduate days who was of most mediocre academic ability who ( amazingly ) ended up in the Diplomatic Service . In those days they never actually asked if you were of indigenous ancestry .
    (He actually had a Sri Lankan Tamil father studying in Australia and was the adopted out result of a fling . He was adopted by a well to do couple and sent to a posh school )

  34. @Unzerker
    @R.G. Camara

    In the time you typed this nonsense you could easily have googled some pictures of her parents.
    Your story is obviously a lie.

    https://i1.wp.com/celebrityinside.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/iggy-azalea-family-tree.jpg

    https://i2.wp.com/celebrityinside.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/Iggy-Azalea-Father.jpg

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon, @Truth

    Iggy Azelia is Robert Plant’s daughter?

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @YetAnotherAnon

    She's blond like her dad.

    But the notion that lots of today's Australians are the descendants of rock stars of 45 or 55 years ago is not implausible. I recall reading a condensed book in The Reader's Digest about The Beatles in which the author explained that The Beatles tour of Australia in the mid-1960s must have left behind a sizable number of offspring. This doesn't strike me as all that bad.

    , @Docta Kang
    @YetAnotherAnon

    i thought it was Sammy Hagar there for a second

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon

    , @Mike Tre
    @YetAnotherAnon

    He looks way more like Sammy Hagar.

  35. I wouldn’t at all be surprised if she was one quarter aboriginal. Noongars cover quite an extent of south-western Australia and particularly around the urban centres of Perth and Fremantle there has been some heavy admixture. There is a broad range of phenotypic diversity but you can usually tell if someone has some recent ancestry. I would guess even at 1/16th you can tell, at least if you’ve grown up with them around and you have a keen observational sense. Given their criminal proclivity it is only sensible that this sense becomes well developed if you are unfortunate enough to have to deal with their presence often.

  36. @anon
    @7777ggg


    I don’t think that half of the notable “blacks” in the US actually have any more African ancestry than this women has Aborigines ancestry.
     
    She wouldn't even have an eighth Aborigine.Worth noting that Aborigines in Western Australia are a different race of Aborigine. They are A Blood Type, the ones on the east are O blood type.
    Both Evonne Goolagong's parents were part Aboriginal, she would be a half caste at most.

    The main difference is that African traits seem to be more dominant than Aborigines traits are.
     
    That's true.
    There was a bloke who had always believed he had some aboriginal blood who checked it out in order to get a low interest home loan from the Federal Government. Turned out he wasn't, but was a descendant of a negro who came out on either the First or Second Fleet in 1788-89.
    So, after 9 generations it was still noticeable.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Jim Bob Lassiter, @Ron X

    I wonder how his home loan application went.

  37. @YetAnotherAnon
    @Unzerker

    Iggy Azelia is Robert Plant's daughter?

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Docta Kang, @Mike Tre

    She’s blond like her dad.

    But the notion that lots of today’s Australians are the descendants of rock stars of 45 or 55 years ago is not implausible. I recall reading a condensed book in The Reader’s Digest about The Beatles in which the author explained that The Beatles tour of Australia in the mid-1960s must have left behind a sizable number of offspring. This doesn’t strike me as all that bad.

  38. There’s a type of abo that migrated out of India some 5000 years ago or so. Those people were dravidian like, I think. Such people would get their looks easily “washed out” when mixing with Europeans.

    • Replies: @photondancer
    @ogunsiron

    I have observed that elderly Indian women and elderly Aborigine women can look almost identical. I wonder if the ancestors of the aborigines spent a few thousand years in south India before moving on.

    Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease

  39. Britain annexed and colonised Western Australia in 1829. The colony was unsuccessful, by 1850 there were less that 5000 settlers, and in 1885, just before gold was discovered, the population was only about 35,000. The pioneer settlers, and government officials, have left a substantial amount of documentary records about the Noongar people. One aspect of traditional Aboriginal culture that many of them noted was just how violent the men were to their women. Some colonists also recorded that the tribal elders used to prostitute their women to white men in return for tobacco, grog and food.

    One aspect of Aboriginal-white relations was that white men used to copulate with Aboriginal women, but almost never co-habited with them, with the result that nearly all mixed race children were raised in Aboriginal society. Given the violence of their menfolk, I suspect that some Aboriginal women may have preferred to associate with whites.

    Today almost all Noongars are of mixed Aboriginal and white ancestry, but people who may be only a sixteenth (or less) Aboriginal still identify as Noongars. They have colonised Australian Rules football, for such a small ethnic group they have produced many of the best footballers of the past forty years. They also produce many criminals, in Western Australia they comprise only about 3% of the population, but about 40% of the inmates of the gaols are Aboriginal.

  40. @Steve Sailer
    @anon

    "There was a bloke who had always believed he had some aboriginal blood who checked it out in order to get a low interest home loan from the Federal Government. Turned out he wasn’t, but was a descendant of a negro who came out on either the First or Second Fleet in 1788-89."

    That's a good anecdote about the African vs. Aboriginal difference in dominance vs. recessiveness. Any link for it?

    Replies: @sb, @ogunsiron

    Really? I really, really, really doubt that someone with a single african ancestor 9 generations ago has looks that still tell of the event. There is this lineage in Iceland that descends from a black sailor who settled there in the 19th century. I doubt they look different from other Icelanders.

    The man on the right is 25% african (Nigeria and not even fulani, based on his name):

  41. @R.G. Camara
    Iggy Azalea, the slut "blond white" rapper, is really an aboriginal girl who is an old-fashioned passer---she has white blood, and fair skin, so pretends she's a blond, but she's majority abo, having a genetic disease only abos have.

    Snoop Dogg called her out on being a passer when he made fun of her, comparing her to the Wayans Brothers in white face in White Chicks.

    Replies: @Unzerker, @Ian Smith

    I’d hit it.

    • Disagree: BB753
  42. I think a lot of the troubles that these people experience are as a result of being neither black nor white, but somewhere in between. They feel as if they can’t fit into either race. As a result they seem to grow up with a chip on their shoulders the size of a log. They see a tribe of aborigines getting land rights to mines bringing in millions, and think where’s my cut. It isn’t fair. What about me! I remember a book that I read in school years ago about a white guy who travelled through the US as a negro. The thought of posing as a black in a whites world really doesn’t appeal to me. With these people , they are lucky enough to have a choice. To either live their life as a white, and work as a white. Or to choose the dark side, don’t bother with your schooling, reproduce as early and often as you can, hit the bottle or needle, and then blame the whites for your troubles. All the while taking the handouts. And the trouble is that a lot of these people are seeing that their choice of lifestyle is becoming normalised.

    • Replies: @MBlanc46
    @Jiminy

    John Howard Griffin, “Black Like Me”. He did it to write the book. He spoke at my college in the mid-1960s. If memory serves, he died of cancer caused by whatever they did to darken his skin.

  43. Watching the SpaceX launch yesterday I was shocked by the absence of Abos around the control panels:

  44. @Daniel Williams
    She looks like if Diamanda Galas had a baby with Peter Steele from Type O Negative.

    Replies: @Anon, @larry lurker

    Favorite Diamanda Galas shriek is probably this one at 5:46 (shame about the overproduction here, she doesn’t need it):

    http://youtu.be/Du8ru1SiXR4?t=5m39s

    • Agree: Daniel Williams
  45. @Mishima Zaibatsu
    Off topic, a piece from Politico which blames "poverty" and "discrimination" for non-whites dying from COVID-19 at a higher rate than whites.

    The unequal epidemic
    In wealthy Western countries, COVID-19 is killing people of color at much higher rates.


    There is no conclusive answer as to why so many casualties in Western countries are ethnic and racial minorities, or why you would be four times likelier to die from coronavirus-related complications if you live in Newham rather than elsewhere in Britain. But recent studies have given us a sense of the factors responsible: decades of underfunding, discrimination, poverty and marginalization.
     
    Definitely nothing to do with Vitamin D. Definitely not.

    In times of crisis, people often search for scapegoats. If, for example, Muslims in Sweden have higher infection rates than white Swedes, there will no doubt be people who may attribute this not to comprehensible social factors but to cultural (or, worse, genetic and biological) factors.

    Muslims, immigrants and people of color — already the target of xenophobic, far-right, white-supremacist anger — could become frightening disease vectors to the population at large.
     

    Scapegoats are bad. Unless it's white people, in which case you can blood libel them as using coronavirus-related racism (or something) to strike down black bodies in their prime.

    Replies: @Docta Kang, @Colin Wright

    must be poverty and discrimination causing blacks to spread STDs at 5-15x the rate too

  46. @YetAnotherAnon
    @Unzerker

    Iggy Azelia is Robert Plant's daughter?

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Docta Kang, @Mike Tre

    i thought it was Sammy Hagar there for a second

    • Replies: @YetAnotherAnon
    @Docta Kang

    "i thought it was Sammy Hagar there for a second"

    We'll let you be the judge.

    https://coolmenshair.com/wp-content/uploads/robert-plant-longhairwithbangs.jpg

    https://i2.wp.com/celebrityinside.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/Iggy-Azalea-Father.jpg

    https://townsquare.media/site/295/files/2019/09/Hagar.jpg?w=980&q=75

  47. @BenKenobi
    First we get "jogger", then came "bird watcher."

    Now we get "noongar" while Minneapolis burns down. It's been a boring couple of months, but things are picking up!

    Replies: @Truth

    Yes, I’m excited. Prez Camacho somehow miraculously figured out a way to rid the US of police shootings for the first 3 1/2 years of his administration. Then his ra tings plummeted with his closing 90% of the businesses in America, and POOF! the shootings came back.

  48. @Unzerker
    @R.G. Camara

    In the time you typed this nonsense you could easily have googled some pictures of her parents.
    Your story is obviously a lie.

    https://i1.wp.com/celebrityinside.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/iggy-azalea-family-tree.jpg

    https://i2.wp.com/celebrityinside.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/Iggy-Azalea-Father.jpg

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon, @Truth

    “His” parents, Old Sport.

  49. @dr kill
    @Simon in London

    Men are better than women at everything, including being women.

    Replies: @Truth

    I’m not sure I’d put it that way, but any cursory glance at any television show or movie would give your argument some gravitas.

  50. @7777ggg
    I don't think that half of the notable "blacks" in the US actually have any more African ancestry than this women has Aborigines ancestry.

    The main difference is that African traits seem to be more dominant than Aborigines traits are. So it's not quite as easy to laugh at quadroons in America like Shaun King and Ben Jealous leading the black community, since they have visible African traits. On the other hand, a quadroon in Australia will look basically white, so you have to think WTF when they're leading the Aborigines community.

    Replies: @anon, @Gunnar von Cowtown

    Until Shaun King takes a public DNA test, he’s 100% white and 100% larping.

    Don’t encourage him by giving him quadroon status.

    • Agree: Jim Don Bob
  51. Rachel Dolezal is booking her flight.

    • LOL: BB753
  52. Claire G. Coleman is a Wirlomin Noongar woman whose ancestral country is the deep south of Western Australia.

    Wow.

    A “Noongar” from the “deep south”? In Australia?

    Who’da thunk…

  53. @Docta Kang
    @YetAnotherAnon

    i thought it was Sammy Hagar there for a second

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon

    “i thought it was Sammy Hagar there for a second”

    We’ll let you be the judge.

  54. @danand
    @anon


    “On East Lake Street in Minneapolis outside the MN 3rd District Police Department.”
     
    The landscape in front of that department has now been cleared (burnt to the ground). I guess just another “change we can believe in”.


    “Donnell Cooper, one of George Floyd's former classmates, said he remembered watching Floyd score touchdowns. Floyd towered over everyone and earned the nickname "gentle giant."

    Floyd was charged in 2007 with armed robbery in a home invasion in Houston and in 2009 was sentenced to five years in prison as part of a plea deal, according to court documents.

    Harris, Floyd's childhood friend, said he and some of their mutual friends had moved to Minneapolis in search of victims jobs around 2014. Harris said he talked Floyd into moving there as well after he got out of prison.”

    Wonder how many months it will take George’s family to burn through the coming $30M in reparations.

    Replies: @Alden

    I thought Mike Brown of Ferguson Mo was the gentle giant. Floyd was passing a $20 counterfeit bill. Too bad they killed him as the secret service could have questioned him and tracked back through the passers to whoever made the counterfeit money.

  55. @PiltdownMan

    They Ain't Making Australian Aboriginal Women Like They Used to
     
    It's been a long time since Evonne Goolagong won fourteen grand slam titles in tennis.

    https://i.imgur.com/0C94trf.jpg

    https://i.imgur.com/fzKKcDv.jpg

    Replies: @The Alarmist, @Mr. Grey, @Buffalo Joe, @teo toon

    Goolagong was an outlier. The Hedy Lamarr of aborigines.

  56. She was only a medicine man’s daughter,
    But she had her doctorate in aboriginal sin.

  57. @PiltdownMan

    They Ain't Making Australian Aboriginal Women Like They Used to
     
    It's been a long time since Evonne Goolagong won fourteen grand slam titles in tennis.

    https://i.imgur.com/0C94trf.jpg

    https://i.imgur.com/fzKKcDv.jpg

    Replies: @The Alarmist, @Mr. Grey, @Buffalo Joe, @teo toon

    Pilt, I am sorry, but I really thing she is a he, and Evonne was a star in the tennis world before all the grunters took over.

  58. I don’t know why you’re dumping on Aborigines. How about going after white Australians who are some of the worst people on Earth.

  59. @YetAnotherAnon
    @Unzerker

    Iggy Azelia is Robert Plant's daughter?

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Docta Kang, @Mike Tre

    He looks way more like Sammy Hagar.

  60. @Jiminy
    I think a lot of the troubles that these people experience are as a result of being neither black nor white, but somewhere in between. They feel as if they can’t fit into either race. As a result they seem to grow up with a chip on their shoulders the size of a log. They see a tribe of aborigines getting land rights to mines bringing in millions, and think where’s my cut. It isn’t fair. What about me! I remember a book that I read in school years ago about a white guy who travelled through the US as a negro. The thought of posing as a black in a whites world really doesn’t appeal to me. With these people , they are lucky enough to have a choice. To either live their life as a white, and work as a white. Or to choose the dark side, don’t bother with your schooling, reproduce as early and often as you can, hit the bottle or needle, and then blame the whites for your troubles. All the while taking the handouts. And the trouble is that a lot of these people are seeing that their choice of lifestyle is becoming normalised.

    Replies: @MBlanc46

    John Howard Griffin, “Black Like Me”. He did it to write the book. He spoke at my college in the mid-1960s. If memory serves, he died of cancer caused by whatever they did to darken his skin.

  61. mmm kay,. ..

  62. @anon
    @7777ggg


    I don’t think that half of the notable “blacks” in the US actually have any more African ancestry than this women has Aborigines ancestry.
     
    She wouldn't even have an eighth Aborigine.Worth noting that Aborigines in Western Australia are a different race of Aborigine. They are A Blood Type, the ones on the east are O blood type.
    Both Evonne Goolagong's parents were part Aboriginal, she would be a half caste at most.

    The main difference is that African traits seem to be more dominant than Aborigines traits are.
     
    That's true.
    There was a bloke who had always believed he had some aboriginal blood who checked it out in order to get a low interest home loan from the Federal Government. Turned out he wasn't, but was a descendant of a negro who came out on either the First or Second Fleet in 1788-89.
    So, after 9 generations it was still noticeable.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Jim Bob Lassiter, @Ron X

    Seriously?

    I have a very hard time imagining that anybody who’s 1/512 African will visually show it. Come on.

    You might not even inherit any African genes at that point.

  63. Yikes. The still chosen for the YT video was a very unflattering one.

  64. Most Italian people can tell in about ten seconds after meeting a fellow Italian if the fellow Italian has lots of mobsters in his family tree.

    Very few white people know this, but most black people are completely aware that folks like Obama and Jesse Jackson and their ilk have got quite a few white slave-owners in the family tree (in Obama’s case, there were also black slave-traders, unless my sources are incorrect.)

    This explains a lot about why they are so popular with some and so abhorrent to others. Some people just like to worship at the feet of people with lots of power in their family tree, even if the power is illegitimate —- other people can plainly see evil under the sun.

    I could go on about Irish and English relatives from the dark side, and it is just as bad in Asia and Africa and the subcontinent. And, while nobody cares all that much one way or another about Australia (I do, by the way, I adore eucalyptus trees and I think Australians are great people), it is just the same there.

    Maybe this is something to think about.

    Or maybe I don’t know what I am talking about. Lots of people who sound smart are just deluded people who know how to arrange words in a nice way. Not saying I am down at that level – I actually believe in what I say —- but it is up to you to figure out who is capable of speaking the truth and who is not. For the record, my great grandparents were figures of fear to the evildoers of their day, I like to think, and if they weren’t, well than I am ashamed of them !

    • Replies: @Hibernian
    @Stephen Dodge


    Most Italian people can tell in about ten seconds after meeting a fellow Italian if the fellow Italian has lots of mobsters in his family tree.
     
    Give me a break.

    After a half hour of conversation, that's a different story.

    Replies: @Stephen Dodge

  65. These are my kind of Abos:

  66. Anonymous[363] • Disclaimer says:

    Patty Mills, who plays for the Spurs and is Australia’s best basketball player, is aboriginal. In the US, he would just pass as black. In fact, during an NBA game a couple years ago, a fan was heard on the broadcast taunting Mills during a free throw for being Jamaican:

    https://www.nba.com/article/2018/02/27/cleveland-cavaliers-indefinitely-ban-fan-racial-insults-patty-mills

    While Mills was at the foul line, the fan was heard on the ABC broadcast twice yelling, “Hey, Jamaica called, they want their bobsledder back!” Mills is black and from Australia with an Aboriginal heritage.

  67. @ogunsiron
    There's a type of abo that migrated out of India some 5000 years ago or so. Those people were dravidian like, I think. Such people would get their looks easily "washed out" when mixing with Europeans.

    Replies: @photondancer

    I have observed that elderly Indian women and elderly Aborigine women can look almost identical. I wonder if the ancestors of the aborigines spent a few thousand years in south India before moving on.

    • Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease
    @photondancer

    If they live to be elderly enough, God bless 'em, all elderly women of every race eventually get to look like all other elderly women.

    Just as all of us, if we live to be old enough, will start to sound like the Nurse in "Romeo and Juliet".

  68. @Mishima Zaibatsu
    Off topic, a piece from Politico which blames "poverty" and "discrimination" for non-whites dying from COVID-19 at a higher rate than whites.

    The unequal epidemic
    In wealthy Western countries, COVID-19 is killing people of color at much higher rates.


    There is no conclusive answer as to why so many casualties in Western countries are ethnic and racial minorities, or why you would be four times likelier to die from coronavirus-related complications if you live in Newham rather than elsewhere in Britain. But recent studies have given us a sense of the factors responsible: decades of underfunding, discrimination, poverty and marginalization.
     
    Definitely nothing to do with Vitamin D. Definitely not.

    In times of crisis, people often search for scapegoats. If, for example, Muslims in Sweden have higher infection rates than white Swedes, there will no doubt be people who may attribute this not to comprehensible social factors but to cultural (or, worse, genetic and biological) factors.

    Muslims, immigrants and people of color — already the target of xenophobic, far-right, white-supremacist anger — could become frightening disease vectors to the population at large.
     

    Scapegoats are bad. Unless it's white people, in which case you can blood libel them as using coronavirus-related racism (or something) to strike down black bodies in their prime.

    Replies: @Docta Kang, @Colin Wright

    ‘… xenophobic, far-right, white-supremacist anger…’

    It’s a good thing, but how can we generate more of it and channel it more effectively?

  69. @photondancer
    @ogunsiron

    I have observed that elderly Indian women and elderly Aborigine women can look almost identical. I wonder if the ancestors of the aborigines spent a few thousand years in south India before moving on.

    Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease

    If they live to be elderly enough, God bless ’em, all elderly women of every race eventually get to look like all other elderly women.

    Just as all of us, if we live to be old enough, will start to sound like the Nurse in “Romeo and Juliet”.

  70. @PiltdownMan

    They Ain't Making Australian Aboriginal Women Like They Used to
     
    It's been a long time since Evonne Goolagong won fourteen grand slam titles in tennis.

    https://i.imgur.com/0C94trf.jpg

    https://i.imgur.com/fzKKcDv.jpg

    Replies: @The Alarmist, @Mr. Grey, @Buffalo Joe, @teo toon

    Are you surethat that is a “cis-het” female?

  71. Aboriginal is a term appropriated by Australian natives. It simply means “native”, from Latin “ab-origine”, same as Greek “autochton” (from “autós” (self) and “khthoón”, earth (oo stands for omega).
    I guess “autochtones” or even “natives” wasn’t as catchy as “abo(rigine)s”.

    The English are aborigines in Britain, the French natives to France, Italians autochtones in Italy, etc..
    Silly, but probably the Canadian term “First Peoples” is even more ridiculous.

    This woman is probably no more than 1/8 th aboriginal. It’s called “larping”, in my book.

    • Replies: @Jim Don Bob
    @BB753


    Silly, but probably the Canadian term “First Peoples” is even more ridiculous.
     
    Even more ridiculous is the term "visible minority" which appears in job ads in Canader. It's not enough to be a POC, you also gotta look like a POC. IOW, no Shaun Kings need apply.

    2) The author looks like tranny surgery gone wrong.
  72. Completely off topic (but as you don’t do open threads Steve I have no where else to post this). A hard line feminist talks about terrorizing TERFs.

    https://queeratxlaura.wordpress.com/2020/05/27/resisting-terfs-and-transforming-their-organizations/

    Includes some comments about entryism from an entryist. Several links which describe struggles between TERFs and “transgender postitive feminists”.

    So over the top though that I wonder if it is not a hoax.

  73. @Stephen Dodge
    Most Italian people can tell in about ten seconds after meeting a fellow Italian if the fellow Italian has lots of mobsters in his family tree.

    Very few white people know this, but most black people are completely aware that folks like Obama and Jesse Jackson and their ilk have got quite a few white slave-owners in the family tree (in Obama's case, there were also black slave-traders, unless my sources are incorrect.)

    This explains a lot about why they are so popular with some and so abhorrent to others. Some people just like to worship at the feet of people with lots of power in their family tree, even if the power is illegitimate ---- other people can plainly see evil under the sun.

    I could go on about Irish and English relatives from the dark side, and it is just as bad in Asia and Africa and the subcontinent. And, while nobody cares all that much one way or another about Australia (I do, by the way, I adore eucalyptus trees and I think Australians are great people), it is just the same there.

    Maybe this is something to think about.

    Or maybe I don't know what I am talking about. Lots of people who sound smart are just deluded people who know how to arrange words in a nice way. Not saying I am down at that level - I actually believe in what I say ---- but it is up to you to figure out who is capable of speaking the truth and who is not. For the record, my great grandparents were figures of fear to the evildoers of their day, I like to think, and if they weren't, well than I am ashamed of them !

    Replies: @Hibernian

    Most Italian people can tell in about ten seconds after meeting a fellow Italian if the fellow Italian has lots of mobsters in his family tree.

    Give me a break.

    After a half hour of conversation, that’s a different story.

    • Replies: @Stephen Dodge
    @Hibernian

    I exaggerated for 'gli outsider'.

  74. @Hibernian
    @Stephen Dodge


    Most Italian people can tell in about ten seconds after meeting a fellow Italian if the fellow Italian has lots of mobsters in his family tree.
     
    Give me a break.

    After a half hour of conversation, that's a different story.

    Replies: @Stephen Dodge

    I exaggerated for ‘gli outsider’.

  75. @BB753
    Aboriginal is a term appropriated by Australian natives. It simply means "native", from Latin "ab-origine", same as Greek "autochton" (from "autós" (self) and "khthoón", earth (oo stands for omega).
    I guess "autochtones" or even "natives" wasn't as catchy as "abo(rigine)s".

    The English are aborigines in Britain, the French natives to France, Italians autochtones in Italy, etc..
    Silly, but probably the Canadian term "First Peoples" is even more ridiculous.

    This woman is probably no more than 1/8 th aboriginal. It's called "larping", in my book.

    Replies: @Jim Don Bob

    Silly, but probably the Canadian term “First Peoples” is even more ridiculous.

    Even more ridiculous is the term “visible minority” which appears in job ads in Canader. It’s not enough to be a POC, you also gotta look like a POC. IOW, no Shaun Kings need apply.

    2) The author looks like tranny surgery gone wrong.

    • LOL: BB753

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