Many of us at Tablet believed strongly, and still believe, in the possibility of creating a better world.

Not just writers at The Tablet, but Jewish people in general tend to want to create this better world politically. (Part of the problem.)

Every time we pressed on one of the newly mass-embraced policy proposals or narratives – [a list of only 8 out of hundreds of pieces of bullshit follows] —a weird thing would happen:

I.e., you were wrong from the beginning. (Part of the problem.)

For as long as we’ve been in this country, Jews have relied on and sung the praises of stalwart American institutions like the federal government, universities, media organizations, corporations, labor unions, and more.

You relied on wrong. You sung wrong. (Part of the problem.)

Organizations like the Anti-Defamation League and the American Civil Liberties Union, once the protectors of the vulnerable, became handmaidens of power.

Like some other organizations that started out “doing the right thing”, in other countries, a century ago perhaps, you give them political power, and they’re not going to hand it back because you think they’ve “gone too far”. It doesn’t work like that. (Part of the problem.)

The problem here is that people who are generally more intelligent are not generally wiser.

Suddenly they came for them….

Very nice.

Now let’s take two thoughts from early in the editorial, but display them in reverse order, with emphases added:

Many of us at Tablet believed strongly, and still believe, in the possibility of creating a better world.

For the past decade, an elite consensus began to emerge. It was marketed as a worldview of optimism, of progress and justice brought about by the dawning of correct morality.

Okay, this could be a clue as to the root of the problem that The Editors suddenly seem to have, um, noticed.

There is an undertone of lecturing and teaching and correcting, which some of us find annoying, that repeatedly seems to come from certain people. There is an attitude of “we will fix the world’s people for their own good, because we know better.”

This is not much of a step away from just simple, glaring, “We are better.”

Maybe a little more introspection could lead to the self-awareness necessary to stop causing this problem and stop pissing the rest of us of.

Maybe people will stop meddling.

Nah.

A quick browse through these pieces by Ron Unz (who he?)
suggests not.
https://www.unz.com/author/ron-unz/topic/jews/

This shows that they see a parade and want to get at least in the middle of it, if not the front:

, whether it was OK for a Syrian dictator to bomb and gas 500,000 of his people, whether the U.S. should ally itself with a Holocaust-denying medieval theocracy,

Glenn Greenwald and Norman Finkelstein should get together and figure out what the best use for us is. Right now, our potential is being squandered!

When is awakening from a hypnotic state possible?

Some, like Eric Zemmour in France, differentiated reality from projection for a long time….

https://www.amren.com/features/2014/11/forty-years-that-unmade-france/

On October 3, 1980, a bomb exploded outside a synagogue in the rue Copernic in Paris. The explosion had been timed to kill worshipers as they left the building, but the service ran late that day. Four bystanders were killed instead.

The attack was carried out by an Arab holding a forged Cypriot passport. He was sponsored by East European communists and the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine–but it took years to establish this.

In the meantime, the entire French left was convinced that the attack could only have been the work of the native French “extreme right.” A tiny group called the Federation for National and European Action actually claimed responsibility; only much later was it discovered that the message had come from an infiltrator. The police went in search of Spanish Francoists, but that trail lead nowhere. Jewish youth demonstrated in the streets and sacked the offices of one nationalist organization. Mr. Zemmour explains their mindset:

Since the Six Day War of June 1967, a fraction of French Jewish youth had enrolled in Zionist defense movements. They struck out against imaginary Nazis in the streets and universities … pretending they were in the underground with Jean Moulin [the famous Resistance fighter] or in the Warsaw ghetto.

Shots were fired at the Paris headquarters of Oeuvre Française, another nationalist organization. Right-wing think-tanks such as GRECE and the Club d’Horloge were denounced for “contributing to the atmosphere” in which such a crime could take place. Socialists screamed that the Gaullist President Giscard d’Estaing was an “accomplice of the murderers.” Prime Minster Raymond Barre’s statement that “this odious attack was aimed at Jews attending synagogue, but struck four innocent Frenchmen who were crossing the rue Copernic” was unaccountably held up as proof he was an anti-Semite.

The hue and cry may have contributed to Socialist President François Mitterand’s victory the following year. The truth came out only after the collapse of communism and the opening of the East German secret police files.

The bombing in the rue Copernic provided the standard script for responding to any future anti-Jewish attacks by Arabs:

More than thirty years later, during the presidential campaign of 2012, [three] Jewish children were murdered in front of a religious school. Everyone denounced the fascist-racist-anti-Semite … The media looked for a tall, blond Nazi with a Kalashnikov.

The killer was soon discovered to be an Arab with French citizenship but Mr. Zemmour notes that without missing a beat, the French media then started assuring the country that the crime in no way implicated the Muslims of France or their peaceful religion.

But many are still deluded & suicidally irrational.

Another thing to consider – and you’ve probably written about this yourself – is that even this powerful group is not monolithic. Often one hand doesn’t know what the other hand is doing. There ARE Jewish Conservatives that have seen the trouble their co-ethnics have been brewing up for most of a century.

I miss the late Aaron S. Zelman of the JPFO (Jews for the Protection of Firearms Ownership). That guy understood what’s what and how things tend to go down. That was going on AFTER the latest attacks on Israelis. Do they want to enjoy the fun here to save on plane tickets?

I’m still mulling over the stupidity of Jewish Family Services arranging for buses of illegal aliens from all over the world including Arabs, some of who are out to kill Jews, to come north across the border at San Ysidro (San Diego), California as related by a former BP Agent here.

Then again, Jews have been generally pro-immigration, with no complaints about the number of Moslems immigrating, who they know don’t particularly like them, no matter how virtuous these Jews may appear. Their desire to appear virtuous overcomes their desire for a long-term safe nations for their families. Then again, that’s not just a Jewish thing.

Steve, two related topics.

1. How many of the Americans killed or held hostage by Hamas are dual citizens. Would the story play differently if all of them were also citizens of Israel. Does the obligations of the U.S. government change because there is another country that also has obligations to them.

2. There have been media reports of all of the Israeli military reservist flying out of the airports in New York City to Israel. How many of them are dual citizens? How many of those reservist have any friend or relatives who have ever served in the U.S. military?

that means Jews are going to pay the price

Not if they follow the Harvard model, in which gentiles are exclusively cleansed out to make room for the diversity. You don’t think Hollywood can do that? You don’t think high finance can do that? They probably already have.

A third option is that Jews get themselves some kind of recognized minority status and official entry into the coalition of the fringes, which is de facto what they have now in many walks of life. BLM didn’t recognize this because it was an upstart organization whose leaders weren’t picked by a committee of the Democratic Party like is the case in other more established black ethnonarcissism projects.

Ironically, if professional-managerial class (PMC) Jews wanted to be less anti-White they’d have to defy their jewified Gentile colleagues, friends and spouses. The secular Jewish-American worldview has won so completely that anyone wishing to join or remain in the PMC has to ape Norman Lear-ism flawlessly.

It isn’t just Jewish Americans going down with white Americans that is the world historical question of the day.
It is Israel going down with America as the real world question of the 21st century (now being confirmed as a yes).
China has been the biggest economy since 2015, Russia the best weapons since 2019, and China the most soft power since about 2022. Now everyone wants to join BRICS.
That all means the end to US protection of Israel and US promoted division in ME.
Sure the US will be visibly collapsing soon, but Israel collapses now.

(None of the above requires any judgement on rights or wrongs, just observations).

But Note the contrast between the US government lead anti-racist movements which American Jews suffer from, and the very clearly Racist US policies which are getting pushback from Muslims, Chinese, Africans and all the third world against AUKUS and EU and Israel.

It’s more likely Jews will find themselves in a loose coalition of white collar, urban people who don’t want to be stabbed or pushed in front of subway trains by incorrigible loser minorities or have their career paths blocked by the same. This loose coalition of Jews, Asians and Good-Whites will still detest and badmouth the rest of us but they’ll drop the mid-20th century hopes, dreams, delusions and cultural obsessions they inherited secondhand from TV and textbooks.

A third option is that Jews get themselves some kind of recognized minority status

Like separating a MENA category from white?

………and also meant that Jews would once again be seen as enemies to be eliminated.

A lot of the problems in our culture today seem to stem from the fact that the Jews don’t grasp that, yes, they are the bad guys in this story.

Every time we pressed on one of the newly mass-embraced policy proposals or narratives—intersectionality, decolonization studies, the Iran nuclear deal, Russiagate, Black Lives Matter, the Women’s March, critical race theory, COVID lockdowns—a weird thing would happen: The idea itself fell apart at the seams within seconds of contact with reality, and yet its defenders got more sure of themselves, more performatively boastful, more passionate and gleeful about smearing anyone who dared to question them.

Whatever else, that’s fucking brilliant right there.

The problem for Jews (and European goyim) is that Ashkenazim (who make up almost 100% of American Jews) are generally much whiter than “MENA” people.

For example, I saw a video yesterday of an Israeli mocking Gazans by wasting water and electricity. Honestly he looked phenotypically 0% Jewish. So while he obviously made Jews and Israelis look bad, he also made all Europeans look bad to the low IQ masses of people who think Ashkenazim are “white colonizers”

Ron Unz has documented that Jews take an absurdly disproportionate share of “White” positions in elite institutions such as Ivy League universities. As long as I have been alive and no doubt before, Jews have assumed a protean, shape-shifting identity. Sometimes they’re White, sometimes they’re not. I doubt Susan Sontag was channeling her inner White when she declared that White people are the “cancer of human history,” and I doubt Noel Ignatiev was identifying as White when he spewed his vicious anti-White theories. Plainly, Jews pose as Whites when it’s good for the Jews, and they present as Jews when it’s good for the Jews. The truth is that they are not White, and Whites should refuse to fight the wars they instigate. Unfortunately, the Jewish propaganda machine is in overdrive, replete with obvious bullsh-t atrocity stories (e.g., beheaded babies!) that, once again, we mere goyim are not even permitted to question. And no doubt the White Southern goyim cattle whose employment prospects were destroyed by (((globalization))) will sign up in large numbers to kill and be killed for Zion. McStain is screaming from Hell, “Bomb, bomb, bomb Iran!”

I could see it going either way.

On the optimistic side, here is an editorial in the Jewish opinion journal The Tablet

Specifically, The Placebo. Steve, it isn’t working. More drama ahead.

Very interesting

US Secretary of State Blinken: "I came to Israel as a Jew and not just as a Foreign Minister. These are difficult moments for Israel and for the entire world."

"We will provide any weapons and ammunition needed. Some have arrived and more are on the way." he added pic.twitter.com/DswKTMxv1I

— S p r i n t e r (@SprinterFamily) October 12, 2023

U.S. Secretary of State, Antony Blinken said today during a Speech in Tel Aviv that the recent Hamas Surprise Attack was Worse than Ten 9/11s. pic.twitter.com/ehsx1JBqgN

— OSINTdefender (@sentdefender) October 12, 2023

The world-historical question at the moment is whether American Jews — who are, arguably, the single most influential politically mobilizable group in the modern globe — will figure out that Woke anti-white hatred is inherently anti-Semitic.

Concern over Jews being confronted by “ethnic issues” and or wokeness coming increasingly out of their control (IE, one dominated by a dialectic involving themselves, whites and blacks, where whites were totally subdued by the magic word “antisemitism” to one where other groups who have even less reason to feel guilt towards Jews are doing the talking and see a bunch of clannish white people who are deeply rentier enjoyers at home and Israel-supporters abroad.) has been rising. That blacks in particularly would naturally symapthise with the Palestinians is obvious and now that they’ve been elevated to a new level of moral influence, the Jews have realised this will be their biggest problem.

Two prominent examples I have cited before are informative.

Here is David Baddiel (Who was a famous comedian in Britain in the mid 90s to early 00s but is essentially retired and, crucially, was never famous then or now in the US) being invited to the Seth Meyers show to promote his new book “Jews Don’t Count”. Now as stated, Baddiel isn’t famous so him being invited on Seth’s show can’t have anything to do with him being David Baddiel and only to do with him wanting to promote this book and it’s message, that Jews don’t count as white people. Baddiel is so Sephardic looking that in his younger years I just assumed from his name that he was Indian or Pakistani. In that sense I can see his annoyance at a personal level, I certainly never counted him as white. Though, ironically as he has aged his skin has lightened but his features and mannerisms have become more stereotypically Jewish.

Another is one Steve touched upon but for some reason didn’t really seize upon, which is the inherent conflict between muscular wokeness and Israel. (Ben Saphiro got this earlier) There just really isn’t a single thing about Israel that isn’t morally problematic that coupled with the constant media and political attempts at censorship of criticism and insane US support makes unchecked wokeness a disastrous casting of the eye of Sauron upon Israel waiting to happen. Afterall, the main critique of wokeness is that it’s pushing against an open door since the West isn’t any of the things it’s accused of being. Whereas Israel actually is to a sometimes surreal degree.

This was the reason that Bari Weiss (A Gen X Jewish lesbian once married to Kate McKinnon) resigned from a choice position at the NYT in disgust with “wokeness” and more importantly why she wasn’t the subject of a two minutes of hate media campaign and given a soapbox to make her final point in the media. In reality Weiss has only ever been bothered by the left’s greater sympathy for the Palestinians. Her Zionism is the only political position she actually seems to have.

Weiss has expressed support for Israel and Zionism in her columns. When writer Andrew Sullivan described her as an “unhinged Zionist”, she responded saying she “happily plead[s] guilty as charged”.

No doubt Weiss heard some “unsolicited opinions on Israel” (Despite said persons being citizens of a country that sends 4 billion a year to fund it’s war machine) from the younger staffers and it scared her, she saw the future and she wanted to send up a kite and message to others “What are we going to do here? How do we stop Israel getting cancelled, how do we morally defend it? How do we stop #DefundTheIDF from trending? How do we stop more people looking up the “early life history” section of people on wikipedia?)

The current post-Oslo Israeli strategy to simply ignore any attempt at resolving the conflict and instead quietly ethnically cleanse the Palestinians from the West Bank and East Jerusalem has been very successful. Prior to the events on Saturday the word “Palestinian” hadn’t been used on American media in maybe 20 years. The current bombing of Gaza with the sole intention of killing civilians in revenge with the highly emotional support of the Biden admin (Biden’s unhinged speech was the most emotionally charged I’d ever seen from any president) most prominently from Blinken who seems, for all intents and purposes, to basically be the president right now, are not playing well on social media. The Hasbara aren’t having much joy. Now we see the Israelis blocking food, water and anything else and they want to push all the Gazans into one half of Gaza (The half without the dock for fishing boats and with much of the farmland) as they continue to bomb the place most likely with the intention of ethnically cleansing the Gazans or much of them into Egypt. (And probably on to Europe)

The so-called “great awokening” can be more or less times to 2014, so we haven’t actually had a big intifada or Israeli bombing campaign since then. Weiss saw the future and sought to demand her fellow Zionists push back or deligitimise wokeness before something like this happened. Now 15 year old girls are even going to start to put the pieces of how the seemingly incomprehensible sausage of US foreign policy is made and they’ll start to see their Jewish classmates are weird on the side of settler colonialists they had previously made a stark distinction between. Contra the eternally paranoid ideas of many, particularly American Jews, people make a distinction between diaspora Jews and Israel. They take a dislike to Israel because of it’s actions and nature first. Later they might realise just how seemingly overwhelming the support from diaspora Jews for this entity and any action it takes is and how much at odds this is with their professed values are when talking about their host countries’ politics.

Live by the woke, die by the woke I suppose. The control of the media enabled this cognitive dissonance to be maintained but social media is a different ball game and it’s power users are always fresh minds more and more influenced by the new media than the old.

But I’d disagree with Steve here, the current panic is about Zionism and Israel and the wrongness of that has nothing to do with Ashkenazi Jews looking white (See also the similarly socio-economically advantaged East Asians being seen differently in many conflicts) and certainly whiter than Palestinians. It has nothing to do with anti-white sentiment. This all has to do with Israeli and American Zionist (Not just Jewish Zionist either) actions not whether blacks and Asians consider them “white”. It has to do with Jews losing their monopoly on control of organised ethnic politics in the US. Too many years have gone by from when Jews in American were poor or outsiders, too many years have gone by with unending Israeli crimes. An independent black ethnic politics has emerged. An independent “woke” politics has emerged (And contra again, it does consider antisemitism towards the Jewish diaspora to be wrong, it actually does) and both have a logical opinion of Israel based on everything else they think. In many ways it’s simply staggering how long the double standard was allowed to continue in the US for a perfect twofer to benefit both diaspora and sabra.

The fallout from social media and teenage girls being the power users of it is still impacting war and peace.

“…the current decade turned out less satisfactory than the people driving events had hoped…”

No surprises here. If life teaches us anything it’s that, inevitably, events usually turn out to have a dynamic of their own. Anyone who thinks that they can “drive” events are deluding themselves, often with negative consequences not only to themselves but, more importantly as it relates to the Woke Era, to others who might not want any part in some utopian wet-dream.

Many of us at Tablet believed strongly, and still believe, in the possibility of creating a better world.

That’s the problem right there. Maybe Jews should forget about that whole Tikkun Olam thing and just, maybe, try to improve themselves and not the world? But it is something so ingrained in Jewish mentality, that I’m not sure it’s possible.

By the way, Tablet appears to be more right-wing or at least more sensible than other Jewish publications (perhaps because it is directed to Jews, not to the goyim). They have taken sensible side also on the transgender thing, criticizing the Pritzkers and all.

The distinction between white gentiles and white Jews that had appeared obvious to intellectuals turned out not to matter to nonwhite looters at all.

Jews don’t see or don’t like to themselves as “White” (which is, I guess, a euphemism for Christian/European), but, as I think Dave Chapelle said, to non-whites “Jew” is just another flavour of White. And it’s hard to disagree with that — most of them do look white. Just with a bigger nose.

p.s. OK, now I have to wait five or six hours until Steve publishes this comment and the discussion has already moved on. 😉

Steve, I’m surprised you haven’t noticed (or if you have, you haven’t mentioned) the lack of the term “Islamophobia” being used and the phrases “Backlash against peaceful Muslims” or “Religion of peace” not being mentioned anymore like we are constantly berated with in situations like the San Bernardino Christmas massacre, moments after the atrocity takes place. This to me is the most inconsistent thing i may have ever witnessed, I was waiting for someone to come out with this take but haven’t really seen it yet.

That Tablet piece is outstanding, whether taken as a Jewish perspective or more than that.

Does anyone else find it jarring that the loudest denunciations of the migration of Jews to Palestine with the encouragement of Western governments, are from Muslims who migrated to Europe and the U.S. with the encouragement of Western governments?

Or, you know, whites could just stand up for ourselves instead of waiting/hoping for Jews to step off the hate-whitey pedal.

It’s amusing that Steve seems to find whites thinking of themselves as a group and organizing to protect and preserve that group as the Worst Thing Ever but seems fine with Jews doing exactly that, if they use their identity politics to protect whites.

Steve’s appeal to Jews seems to be something like this: If you keep punching us in the face, you’re going to hurt your hand so you should stop.

I wonder if it’s ever dawned on Steve to ask why Jews promoted the hate-whitey campaign in the first place. If he had, he might not be so hopeful to join in a coalition with them.

Regardless, American Europeans will either stand up for ourselves, or we’ll be (correctly) tossed into the dust pin of history. Waiting for a group that has shown nothing but animosity (at best) toward us to be our savior is childish, cowardly and, ultimately, self-defeating.

I’m not sure you really understand the place Jews occupy in the USA, Steve. (Or maybe you’re just so polite you refuse to come out and say it?)

They’ve known forever that they are mostly classified as white, yet most of them have been enthusiastic supporters of anti-white policy and narratives at every turn. This is because they see themselves as being able to largely escape any discrimination targeted at their racial category, either due to their innate superiority (the Zionist argument), their connections (the nepotist’s argument), or, failing those advantages, the fact that they’re such a small minority that they can hopefully sort out any adverse consequences with ad hoc wrangling (the “everything is anti-semitic when I say it is” argument). I think there’s a lot of wishful thinking in Jews’ estimation of their own abilities, absent the structural advantages they’ve accrued over the generations, but that’s a purely academic quibble for the time being.

Jews know that they have nothing to fear from anything but the most pervasive and extrajudicial of anti-white sentiments. And even then, by the time it begins to affect them, it’s already done incomparably more damage to the Christians.

All your Jewish commenters were convinced a long time ago. Tablet has been leaning that way for a while.

Hell, I personally think Western Civ is just better than diversity (with the possible exception of East Asia) and worth defending in any case.

I doubt anyone is going to convince Michelle Goldberg or Chuck Schumer. Too much of their identity is tied up with leftism.

a Syrian dictator to bomb and gas 500,000 of his people,

That never happened, did it?

Wasn’t there a Jewish folk tale about them building a monster to protect them from the horrible goyim, but then it ended up turning on them? Nah, must’ve dreamed it…

“Hey, guys? Guys?!

All that stoking of racial hatred, calling you Nazis, school busing, immigration, voting rights lawsuits, chasing Christianity out of the public square, normalizing deviancy …

Just a joke.

Seriously. We don’t know what got into us!

Now remember we’re all in this together so be sure and tell your kids who we sneered at and said there should be less of, …

Sign up for this Third World War we’re about to plunge everybody into!”

American Jews — who are, arguably, the single most influential politically mobilizable group in the modern globe

That’s one way of putting it.

Intellectuals had explained over and over who the real bad guys were: the lower middle class cop whites way out in Simi Valley.

This will not change. The war on normal whites will continue. Jewish elites and their “Intellectual” allies will just tweak their tactics to make sure they and Israel remain immune from criticism. Not an easy task, but all part of their on-going propaganda work.

Tablet seems to be more rightwing than most Jewish publications. So some are waking up. But don’t underestimate the suicidal tendencies of white liberals, it’s like a tropism.

I don’t think the Jews are going to stop. As has been helpfully explained here (by Steve’s own Jewish commenters) and elsewhere, Jews ultimately don’t much fear the kind of disorganized petty violence and criminality that the browns and blacks are capable of. They really only fear the organized violence that whites are capable of.

The Palestinians, they’ll helpfully point out, are capable of killing maybe a few hundred Jews (as we’ve seen recently) but the Nazis were capable of killing millions.* Furthermore, Jews can escape the black and brown crime by receding into gated communities and walled compounds like they and other elites already do in Brazil and South Africa. If the going really gets tough they can escape to their nuclear-armed ethnostate in the Middle East.

Jews will continue to advance their agenda of maximally diversifying white countries. It makes sense for them to do so, game theoretically speaking – or at least they think it does. But morally speaking it’s reprehensible, of course. They also get satisfynig revenge on white Christians whom they’ve pretty much always hated. So that’s an added bonus.**

There is a small category of Jews who don’t seem to be as gung ho about this project though (but they still go along with it, of course) and that’s former South African Jews who’ve fled to the West after their co-ethnics destroyed that country. I sense, among at least a few of them, that they feel a little pang of guilt over that. These Jews, however, are extremely few in number and ultimately, as I already said, will go along with the plans of their more numerous spiteful, vengeful and psychotic co-ethics, like the ones staffing the current president’s administration and changing his diapers. Sad but true.

Diaspora Jews ultimately “feel safer” in diverse societies – as they will often frankly tell you. (Barbara Lerner Specter is really just the tip of the iceberg of Jews being frank about this, both in print and on video.) Of course, things completely flip when it’s their own nation, where they become adamant about maintaining a large demographic majority. When it comes to Israel, Jews suddenly become rabid blood and soil nationalists – as we’ve all been starkly reminded of by reading the comments of Jews on social media or watching them on television in the last few days.

* Though the real numbers of casualties in both of these are still very much an open question because of 1) the inherent nature of atrocity war propaganda and 2) the inherent conflict of interest that the people who control media and academia which disseminates the propaganda have in it pushing/maintaining it and 3) the lack of free speech in the West which stifles critique of these unfalsifiable narratives/numbers.

** E.g., there’s recent video of Jews (and their children) spitting at the sight of Christians carrying a cross in Israel on Twitter (which maybe someone can link to) – it’s quite shocking and revealing for Christians in the West who are oblivious to this kind of routine behavior by Jews in the Holy Land. This is the true attitude of the people that they support with their tax dollars to them and their religion.

I’m not getting my hopes up too high. Both the left and political Islam seem to have figured out that attacks on Jews prompt immediate references to Cossacks, Nazis, and other white gentile groups that historically did something nasty to Jews. I even saw a reference to Cossacks in Tablet.

So Islamist attacks on Jews are a good tactic because they get to kill two birds with one stone. First they attack Jews, then Jews attack Western populations.

Take people like Linda Sarsour for example. She really gets this. You hit the Jews, then when they inevitably go on the attack against white Christians, you join in with them. Works every time.

I’m half-expecting to see another decade of films with blond bad guys after this attack. This will ultimately end badly for Jews, but it’s been such a rock solid pattern for so much of my life that I don’t have much hope for change.

When the University of Michigan added the MENA onto its undergraduate application it was to get middle easterns student from claiming to be black and get the admission boost from claiming to be black. However, for admissions, the MENA was lumped into the non-Hispanic white category.

All left wing revolutionary movements are fundamentally authoritarian, and those that achieve power promptly go about the business of using the state to punish the baddies. That anyone with moderate to high IQ and some historical knowledge didn’t know this and/or recognize wokism, cancel culture and the in-your-face coordinated left wing terrorism of 2020 as *completely natural outcomes* of the anti-white and Western civilization left’s drive to topple society is staggering. These phenomena are just the smallest taste of what would come with firm control of our major public and private levers of power and only rump opposition.

What is going on now is tantalizing – the most powerful subset of the population being confronted with the fact that the pets and the causes they cultivated on the left are beyond their control and intend to dominate them as well. If the lesson has been learned and they are able to use their considerable influence to try to choke the life out of this movement it would be a huge service to America. Unfortunately, I suspect that won’t happen because there will be rationalizations that you can keep the ‘good’ parts of left wing activism and expunge the bad. This isn’t true, and it’s what got us here in the first place.

2024 could be a truly wild year.

Jews won’t change, they haven’t ever done so. Jews are anti-white and deeply resent being described as white.

I am not seeing a lot of evidence the other coalition members will accept that. Another sign of the fraying of the coalition. Too many members will never accept them. Plus it makes for some laughably bad optics for them. Only the most committed zealots are going to accept it when an investment banker from Goldman Sachs kids claim they are suffering because of white privilege.

A third option is that Jews get themselves some kind of recognized minority status and official entry into the coalition of the fringes, which is de facto what they have now in many walks of life.

Yes, I wonder about that possibility too, but the problem (for Jews) with that option is that while formerly they could hide their disproportionate influence within the gentile white supermajority (while simultaneously denouncing the gentile white supermajority in a rather nasty little double game), if they are separated into their own minority group, then suddenly all those tables and charts of ethnic representation will show Jewish overrepresentation in everything that matters (Ivy League admissions, White House cabinet, media machers, central banking, etc.), which is precisely what they were trying to prevent being seen in the first place.

So then they would have to choose between admitting to disproportionate influence or complaining that disproportionate influence is bad. At the moment they still have their cake and eat it too. Can that continue?

If one must forecast, I would guess that if Jews do get their own minority status, they’d try to square the circle by subtly shifting the message to “oh, but minority overrepresentation is good actually versus the evil ‘legacy’ majority” (since the gentile whites’ majority status is gone), policed with generous charges of “antisemitism” against anyone who requests too much logical consistency.

As far as I can tell, street-level Democrats are impervious to social data, and I don’t imagine it’s any different among Jews (rank-and-file or elite). You’re not going to change Bob Iger’s mind. The only thing you can do is organize a proxy fight and bounce him out of his position. As for the crew running Blackrock, perhaps anti-trust law will do. Conspiracy laws might be a tool contra the sorosphere. Someone is arranging for legal representation and materiel delivery to antifa, we just do not know precisely who.
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In re events in the Near East, I think people on this board vastly over-estimate America Jewry’s emotional investment in Israel. I was recently reading a complaint by Rabbi Jeffrey Salkin about American Jews’ interest in Birthright tours. Evidently, uptake among British and French Jews is far higher than it is in the United States. American Jews voted by lopsided majorities for Barack Obama, even though he’s been openly contemptuous of the prime minister of Israel and plied Iran with baubles. There’s a crevasse between the political culture of American Jews and that of Israeli Jews.

“The world-historical question at the moment is whether American Jews will figure out that Woke anti-white hatred is inherently anti-Semitic.

Huh?

“I could see it going either way. On the optimistic side…”

The parasite never understands that when its host dies, so does it.

For the past decade, an elite consensus began to emerge. It was marketed as a worldview of optimism, of progress and justice brought about by the dawning of correct morality.

My observation is increasing these people are incapable of realizing when their pursuit of Tikkun Olam has gone to far and degenerated into naked Frankism.

This is not going to work except as an astroturf project and only for a few more years. Yes (at least in this generation) most establishment blacks from the center of the Democrat party are not going to deviate from philo-Semitism. Look at Kamala Harris, whose is actually married to a Jew.

However, once you get to the young black Left , blacks see Palestinians as their brothers and in general are anti-Semitic and anti-Israel. Look at “The Squad”. In addition to AOC and two Muslims, you have Ayanna Pressley as member #4:

Pressley, BTW, has that humorless grim Commissar look about her.

This is the future face of the Democrat Party. There will come a time when they will completely push the Jews out. Do you think the Squad considers Chuckie Schumer to be “one of us” or is he just an old white man who can’t die soon enough so that they can take over?

As another example, at N.Y.U. Law School, Ryna Workman, the president of the university’s Student Bar Association, wrote in a message to the group on Tuesday that “Israel bears full responsibility for this tremendous loss of life.”

“This regime of state-sanctioned violence created the conditions that made resistance necessary,” Mx. Workman wrote in the Student Bar Association bulletin. “I will not condemn Palestinian resistance.”

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/10/11/us/nyu-law-harvard-hamas-israel.html

Figures like Biden and even Harris are transitional figures. Once the generational transformation is made, Jews are going to be completely on the outs in the Democrat Party. If they didn’t need the Jewish donor base it would have perhaps happened already.

As for ghetto blacks and Jews, in the past tensions were perhaps even worse than today because a lot of Jews were shopkeepers, landlords, etc. in the ghetto. For the most part they have been replaced by Asians, Arabs, etc. so that the average ghetto black has very little day to day interaction with them. Therefore, they seem them mainly as just another type of white person. They don’t have the finely tuned Jewdar of Unzites and may not always distinguish Jews from white people in general. And that’s the best case. Worst case is that they do and they like Jews even less.

But the chances that any group of blacks are going to include Jews as honorary brown people are zero. If any Ashkenazi Jews have this “I’m not white” strategy then they are just fooling themselves.

BTW, some non-Ashkenazi Jews really ARE not white. Putting aside the Ethiopian Jews (clearly not white) a lot of the Middle Eastern Jews are quite brownish.

Quibble- I think your criteria for “everything that matters” is essentially “field where Jews congregate”. It’s a question begging circle jerk.

Doesn’t the military/military industrial complex matter? How about the energy sector? Do they ever influence political or social events (or whatever the “matters” is)? How about the chemical industry? How about insurance? Ivy league admissions matter but not admissions to state universities?

Many Jews, I’ll guess at least 20%, have believed this for decades. I’ll also guess that it’s a larger percentage than that of white gentiles who believe Jews are a race of parasites taking advantage of the good natured trustfulness of white European descended Americans (and that Jews have no right to be here).

So of the two iSteve comments section hoped for changes in the Jewish situation – Steve’s hope is the far more likely to be fulfilled.

It’s a bitch when you lose control of the Golem.

Jews have a couple of strong points – they are NOT stupid and not Suicidal. But will their leaders grasp the truth that the Democratic party is now infested with the worst ideas/policies in American history?
How much longer will throw donations down the toilet – aka leftists Democrats?

I would think both NYU and Columbia have large numbers of professors and administrators who are Jewish, and I would like to believe most are now saying to themselves ‘My God, what have we done?’

From Wikipedia, demographics of historic Palestine

Year Jews Christians Muslims Total

1533–1539 5 6 145 157
1690–1691 2 11 219 232
1800 7 22 246 275
1890 43 57 432 532
1914 94 70 525. 689
1922 84 71 589 752
1931 175 89 760 1,033
1947 630 143 1,181 1,970

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographic_history_of_Palestine_(region)

A slow displacement of a backwater people by Zionists and proto-Zionists, who were sophisticated, organized, backed by deep pockets, and who could communicate their case to the West, the colonial powers, in a way that the Palestinian Arabs could not.

Provocative sentence I read the other day.
“Something the relative size of a cockroach has been allowed to build a home for itself right up the nose of a giant that just hasn’t got the tools to get it out, but is going berserk trying to do so.”
https://www.writing.com/main/view_item/item_id/1608845-Shylock-and-His-Bastard-Children

In 1947 the West voted for the God-claim of the Jews over the God-claim of the Muslims. We had long since ceded our own God-claim and expected Islam to do the same. All faiths access to Jerusalem would suffice. The West didn’t want refugee Jews and the Jews wanted Israel.
We made enemies of some of the most insult-sensitive people in the world, the most determined to maintain face by any means necessary, including killing their daughters or their mothers. People whose faith is a conquest faith and demands that they rule.

That Islam is a ruling faith that places Muslims dominant in any society is why black radicals are drawn to it rather than Christianity, even though Islam codifies slave-taking in a way Christianity did not. It also codifies slave-freeing. But it does not require humbleness, cheek-turning.

The Christian West ceded its empires and colonies as it had ceded the Holy Land. The Western left and the Jewish left among it glorified the peoples who had been colonized and conquered. A cult of victimhood in which leftist Jews were extraordinarily influential, and claimed the place of first among victims.

But Israel is the latest established colony of the West, even as it is the reestablishment of an ancient nation.

At some point it becomes ridiculous to demand that the conquerors leave. Mughals out of India. Mongolians out of Central Asia. Zulus out of south Africa. Turks out of Byzantium. Europeans out of the Americas. Comanches back to Wyoming.

The non-Jewish left has said that the victimhood of the Jews is too far in the past, too undone by success for them to claim that mantle, and yet their conquest is too recent, too European, too white. It must be undone.

I’m half-expecting to see another decade of films with blond bad guys after this attack.

Russians. I’m waiting for the MSM blitz proving Hamas acted on direct orders from Putin.

Organizations like the Anti-Defamation League and the American Civil Liberties Union, once the protectors of the vulnerable

Vulnerable like Mary Phagan?

It’s a difficult one to answer:

In truth, Jews must realise that the world of 2023 is not the world of 1945, and an awful lot has changed, despite deeply rooted pre conceptions and emotions. In short, the realisation that whites, worldwide, and white men in particular hold very very little power in the world, account for little, and are slated for extinction for all practical purposes, should dawn on Jews.
Granted, some might say that statement alone describes the fact that the overall group strategy of organised Jewry since 1945 has succeeded – and then some! – far far greater than the formulators and promulgators of that strategy had ever thought possible, but in all candor and honesty, that’s where the world is right now, and there’s no coming back. Only intesification of this trend.
Most particularly, the continent of Europe, the ancient seat of strife and enmity, but also the cradle of the Ashkenazim, will for sure, be Muslim dominated by 2100 – and intensely anti semitic. And this time the anti Semites won’t be push over chumps like post 1945 white man.
The implications of this fact alone are earth shattering (literally).

At this sorry pass, things have just go on for too long. The results of the cowardice of previous generations of European ‘leaders’- alas too petrified by the hiss of ‘racism’ to take the necessary remedial action – will manifest themselves in the most concrete and unpleasant ways. Demographic changes, nay demographic aggression of such magnitude, does not and cannot come with impunity. Never mind The Economist bollocks.

The current bombing of Gaza with the sole intention of killing civilians…

It’s clear where your sentiments lie but resorting to hyperbole makes everything you say lack credibility. If you look at the world with Hamas colored glasses (tinted blood red) you are not going to portray an accurate picture and people will discount everything you say as tinged by the same partisanship.

If you had said that Israel was bombing Hamas targets in Gaza with total disregard for civilians, that might have been almost believable but no objective observer would say that their SOLE intention is to kill civilians.

OTOH, Israel has not made it a secret that they intend to kill every Hamas man, especially their leadership. Israel would like the civilians to get out of their way so that they can proceed to do this. For pragmatic reasons if nothing else (once the civilian deaths reach a certain level there will be pressure from the West) they would like to kill as few civilians as possible while they eliminate Hamas. Thus the recent request that civilians from the northern half of Gaza temporarily relocate to the southern half. In the Israeli view at least, they have been given fair warning and if they remain in a combat zone Israel will bear no responsibility for their safety.

As for cutting off imports of food, water and fuel, I’m sure that the Israelis would be willing to trade these for the hostages. It’s stupid to think that Hamas is allowed to have unlimited bargaining chips and act with extreme brutality but that in the meantime Israel has to keep supplying them and treat them with kid gloves. The treatment of prisoners, occupied populations, etc. is based on the principle of reciprocity – you treat our occupied population nice because your people might get occupied on other parts of the front or in the next war and you want us to treat them nice as well. When it comes to Hamas there can be zero expectation of reciprocity so what is the point of being nice to them?

In France, or so I am informed, Jews are viewed by the Arabs and blacks as a breed of ‘super white’, that is Europeans with all the baggage of ‘anti colonial’ hatred, revenge and envy which goes with it, but blessed with a certain ‘magic power’ that translates to instant wealth, influence and political power.

It is, surely, a small step for this attitude to cross the Atlantic and permeate to the increasingly black/brown majority USA.

A few things
1. Jews are not a monolith. There were already many Jews on the right who are not neocons. Tablet magazine being the prime example as well as almost all orthodox Jews. For every evil scum bag like Scott Wiener there were Jews in opposition like Abigail Shrier. Currently there are many Jewish voices on the right including Libs of Tiktok proprietor Chaya Raichik, Dennis Prager, Dr Drew etc.
2. For historic and personality reasons many Jews felt more comfortable on the left (since Jews are high on openness which is correlated with being liberal) and historically the left had been much nicer to them while previous generations often faced (usually relatively mild) anti-semitism by people on the right. Many Jews were blind to what the left was doing. I had a very frustrating lunch with my relatives where some were arguing that the Trump muslim partial immigration ban was racist while I argued that continued mass migration of Muslims to the US was unlikely to be good for the Jews. I argued that given that poll after poll showed that average white American were very sympathetic to Jews while many migrants were not, it was foolish and short sighted to champion more of the people who, on average, hate us. Look what happened to France!
3. This is the chance the right needs to get a majority of Jews behind them. Can we stop with the stupid anti-semitism. I can’t recommend this channel to people when there are articles claiming that Israel was behind the JFK assassination. What next, an article claiming Sirhan Sirhan was actually Mossad? How did anti-semitism work for the Nazis? Expelling all the Jewish physicists and scaring the shit out of them meant that if the war in Europe had lasted any longer, Berlin would likely have been nuked.
Can you be bit more open minded and welcome new allies in the war against the wreckers who want to ruin our civilization or would you rather be stupid and smug.
You have a choice, please make the smart move.

Steve I wanted to make a point:

When Rwandans or Indonesians or the dirty Aaayrabs behave like a mob of murdering turds it is unpleasant for us civilised Westerners to watch, but when we see people capable of creating and sustaining high culture, be they Germans or Ashkenazim, organising into ethnic murder squads, it is just that little bit more disturbing.

If we accept it and look the other way we are degrading ourselves as well.

The only positive side is that these people are stupid, nasty and vindictive and are likely to succumb to in-fighting (What happened to Ibram X Kendi’s racism center is a good portent for the future). Let’s hope they implode soon.

White Christians (in particular American Protestants) had this missionary impulse for centuries and it did not really go out of style until the Soviet sponsored “anti-colonial” post WWII era. What where the thousands of American missionaries doing in China, the Pacific Islands, Africa, etc. ? Were they not trying to create a better world and teach correct morality?

People here see Leftism as some sort of uniquely Jewish philosophy but it is not a “Jewish” philosophy at all. It is something that Westernized Jews picked up from white Protestants, who were their heroes and idols. The much derided here “tikkun olam” (repair the world) was meant, in its original Jewish form, not to mean social activism but rather to refer to prayer and ritual observance. Its modern usage by the Jewish Left was meant to put a Jewish spin on very non-Jewish social activism, to make the pig kosher so to speak.

The Yiddish radio station in NY had the call sign “WEVD” in honor of their hero, the American democratic socialist Eugene V. Debs. Most of the program of the democratic socialists (40 hr work week, free public education etc.) was eventually picked up by the Democrat Party and became mainstream among Americans and not just Jews. The new immigrant American Jews did not take their role models from Jewish history nor from the bearded rebbes who concerned themselves with whether this or that defect made the chicken not kosher. They deemed this all irrelevant to their sweatshop working conditions and American labor leaders like Debs were the ones that guided them. Likewise, the Forverts (the largest Yiddish daily paper) was not modeled after anything in the Old Country but after American taibloids.

a million o’clock in the morning

I think you mean “0 dark thirty”.

“…we were struck by how little the ideas themselves seemed to matter; what so many people seemed most attached to was power.”

Conservatives want to debate the woke on the merits of their ideas. I am a bit slow. It took me some time to realize that we are not confronting the power of ideas, but rather the ideas of power. The answer to their agenda is not to win a debate, it for to us obtain power. How is the question, and one not easily answered.

I am baffled by the Jews who seem to hate Christianity more than Islam. Most Christians are pro-Israel, and talk about Judeo-Christian values. Many Moslems seek to destroy Israel, and possibly exterminate the Jews. And yet Jews seem eager to bring Moslems into the USA, and will protest anyone saying that Christianity is better than Islam.

But the chances that any group of blacks are going to include Jews as honorary brown people are zero. If any Ashkenazi Jews have this “I’m not white” strategy then they are just fooling themselves.

This is already the case as regards blacks and Alphabet peoples, and they’re managing it sufficiently well that they can lasso enough black votes at election time to win power and figure out how to distribute it after the fact.

There are few places in the U.S. where Jews are sufficiently dense in population to meaningfully affect elections, but blacks have the numbers in many large cities in the “BIG 10” States to tip them for the Democrats in national elections. They’re indispensable to the Democrats’ new fringe coalition. But they can still have out and proud gays and the rest be part of the coalition, even though blacks are not on the whole welcoming to gay Pride nonsense. The institutional Democratic Party has managed to distribute enough spoils to blacks to placate them while sidestepping any direct confrontations between blacks and gays – often by casting the occasional confrontations as caused by racist whites and white supremacy. I imagine that Jews will continue to exist along these lines – like the gays, disproportionate in funding and activism, subordinate to blacks in direct conflicts, but with the institutional elites of the party managing blacks for the purpose of avoiding giving their demands vis a vis Palestinians any actual legislative support (much like Republicans manage their base voters so as to never put their priorities into law).

The current affair is to me just a minor flare up – the woke got an entire software download which included pro-Palestinian activism and they thought that like their other positions they could do and say whatever they wanted. They just ran up against another powerful group. Amendments to the software will be made in order to smooth over these conflicts.

To be a devil’s advocate for anti-white Jews, I would say: Yes, we are over-represented because we deserve it due to our capabilities & we have succeeded despite the white supremacy, while blacks & others are underrepresented because of white supremacy.

I’m not hopeful. Back when I was in grad school, I found it striking how the Jewish students always MASSIVELY overestimated the amount of antisemitism among the good ol’ boys I grew up with back in Alabama, with Confederate battle flag stickers on their pickups. (Few American Jews have any awareness of the pre-Ellis Island history of Judaism in the South.) By contrast, they were always quick to downplay antisemitism among the foreign students on campus, even when it was expressed directly to their face. “Oh, Ahmed, he doesn’t really mean it. He’s a good guy!”

Many of us at Tablet believed strongly, and still believe, in the possibility of creating a better world. But something bothered us from the very beginning about these ideas, and the people pushing them. Every time we pressed on one of the newly mass-embraced policy proposals or narratives—intersectionality, decolonization studies, the Iran nuclear deal, Russiagate, Black Lives Matter, the Women’s March, critical race theory, COVID lockdowns—a weird thing would happen: The idea itself fell apart at the seams within seconds of contact with reality, and yet its defenders got more sure of themselves, more performatively boastful, more passionate and gleeful about smearing anyone who dared to question them.

is good as far as it goes, but it only takes baby steps. add to that: at-will marriage, decriminalization of buggery, intergenerational genocide, climate change, government-operated school systems . . .

For blacks, successful non-negroid browns are honorary whites.
And Israel definitely is: a) Western, according to the cultural norms (science, technology, gay Mecca, hated by Muslims,..) b) successful

Recall Johnathan Greenblatt spitting out the word “Christian” with utter and complete disgust. Or Merrick Garland setting the FBI onto Catholics attending Latin Mass. Or it’s un-ending farce of chasing down the imaginary evil of “white supremacy” .

We aren’t and were never your real problem. Nor your enemy.

Liberal American Jews fed the wolves of the Left raw meat for so long, they assumed the wolves would never bite them. Well guess what; you do that long enough around indiscriminate omnivore wild animal, and it’s is going to eat what ever is nearby.

And as we look at a border out of control coupled with Palestinian flags in the faces of Jewish rallies across the country; take a bow. The idiocy of your open borders social justice warrior BULLSHIT imported the very people who hate you the very most. You not only asked for it, you worked for it.

George Floyd’s mourners attacked Jewish businesses

Well of course they did. Mourners!

But as you intimate, if the pendulum swings too far against the wealthy élite, the pendulum will perforce be interpreted as anti-semitic. And I’m certain that at least one of the Foucaults will back me up on this.

There are few places in the U.S. where Jews are sufficiently dense in population to meaningfully affect elections

The Jews have never relied upon numbers in order to sway elections, unless perhaps you mean numbers of dollars. Which are more effective anyway, particularly when amplified by mass-media control. Which they tell us is just an “anti-semitic canard.”

When it comes to Hamas there can be zero expectation of reciprocity so what is the point of being nice to them?

“When it comes to [Black Lives Matter] there can be zero expectation of reciprocity so what is the point of being nice to them?”

Never mind intersectionality. Make use of interchangeability.

A transgender socialist man takes the stage in America in support of Hamas.

If he was in Gaza, he would get thrown off a high-rise building pic.twitter.com/GzodtA6FN1

— Visegrád 24 (@visegrad24) October 13, 2023

If one must forecast, I would guess that if Jews do get their own minority status, they’d try to square the circle

They’ve always had “their own minority status,” and it’s been by far the most privileged of any group in the land. The issue now is that they don’t like sharing any of their privilege, even or especially with their pets.

Now comes the forum counselor to tell us that someone didn’t like his tribe a hundred years ago, Harvard was only 25% jewish in the 1920s, and his neighbor’s grandfather didn’t get into the right country club.

Editing needed: in the fifth paragraph’s lengthy sole sentence following the quoted editorial, the word less should be removed. Likely there was some rephrasing of the point being made, and it was missed that an implied “double negative” was left remaining.

Yes, the royal “we” is doing overtime at the moment.

The British press is pretty unhinged, the Mail and Telegraph maybe the most unhinged of all.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2023/10/13/israel-hamas-gaza-world-oil-crisis

This is Ambrose Evans Pritchard, who’s usually quite sensible/realistic. Not today. Note he repeats the beheading stuff.

One can only assume that Hamas intended to provoke total conflagration by decapitating women and children in the worst massacre of Jews since the Holocaust. Events must now follow their Sophoclean script with a haunting inevitability.

There must be a high risk that the unstoppable chain of events will trigger an assault by the Lebanese Hezbollah, backed by Iran and armed with 150,000 missiles on the northern Blue Line, in turn spreading to Syria. Israel bombed Damascus and Aleppo airports in a preemptive strike on Thursday. “The longer the war, the greater the probability that Hezbollah joins in,” said Dr Walid Abdel Hay, a Jordanian political analyst.

Everybody knows the stakes by now: we are one escalation away from a showdown between Iran and the Western democracies, which are broadly standing behind Israel, as they must after the savagery of the Hamas attack.

What began last year as a Russian 10-day special operation in Ukraine is morphing into a shadow world war on three fronts, with the West facing an unholy alliance of Russia, China, and Iran, all operating with some degree of collusion.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/10/12/iran-sinister-plan-is-in-danger-of-succeeding/

And this guy was trying to persuade us to send the RAF into Syria six years ago – because of bombing in Aleppo at maybe 5% of Gaza levels.

I think this is called projection.

Make no mistake: Iran will be willing Hamas’s attacks to spark a wider crisis in the Arab world and in Muslim populations in the West. It doesn’t want a negotiated peace. The regime doesn’t want a two-state solution in Israel. What the West too often fails to recognise is that such attacks are not one-offs or tit-for-tat, but part of a deliberate and determined plan to use terror to divide and weaken the region. Indeed, despite Iran’s constant rhetoric and actions, the destruction of Israel is not as important to the regime as establishing the country as the regional superpower. The Iranian leadership uses the Israel conflict to recruit proxies to spread division.

“a deliberate and determined plan to use terror to divide and weaken the region“, eh?

“the destruction of Israel is not as important to the regime as establishing the country as the regional superpower” – well yes, the destruction of Iraq, Libya and Syria aren’t as important as letting people know the consequences of stepping out of line. The US and UK were perfectly happy when Saddam was gassing Iranians.

I agree with this. Jews are not white, evidenced by the fact that they have been murdered in every society where white men hold sway.

I feel sorry for the innocent people on both sides. The children, the elderly. The animals. I condem the people who are celebrating innocent people dying.

My solution: settle the Palestinians in Europe, Canada, or the USA. This would allow the Palestinians to not get murdered and Israel can have a threat removed.

If you had said that Israel was bombing Hamas targets in Gaza with total disregard for civilians, that might have been almost believable but no objective observer would say that their SOLE intention is to kill civilians.

OTOH, Israel has not made it a secret that they intend to kill every Hamas man, especially their leadership. Israel would like the civilians to get out of their way so that they can proceed to do this.

Quite simply, this is what separates Hamas from Israel. The Israeli’s have the capability to literally flatten every standing building in the Gaza, but instead they chose to destroy targets selectively, saving civilian lives. It may not be surgical enough for many, but the effort is there, and it is not without costs.

On the other hand, if the Palestinian’s had such capabilities, Israel would be long gone. The moral compasses are set 180 degrees apart.

Were they not trying to create a better world and teach correct morality?

Yes, but in a different way, politically on a large scale vs. one convert at a time by the Christian missionaries in China, Africa (just met one yesterday), and all over the world.

I’m not saying which is a better way to “create a better world”, but for the political method, it’s really best to have some wisdom first before you go all out. Imagine a young Commie like Lenin, Castro, or Mao. You don’t want those people “creating a better world” wholesale.

This is what I wrote in my first comment which will appear when Mr. Sailer wakes up. It’s 11 in the morning out there, Steve – wake up, as they say!

When it comes to Hamas there can be zero expectation of reciprocity so what is the point of being nice to them?

good god, the brain damage that must have been suffered to write this with all seriousness. at least we’ve moved beyond the ‘shooting and crying’ theatre.

There still remains a way to thread the needle:

European Christians caused the Israelis to become brutal.

European Christians caused the Palestinians to become brutal.

Thus, the conflict will be resolved only when European Christians, and their cultures and histories, are eliminated.

On the optimistic side, here is an editorial in the Jewish opinion journal The Tablet

I was expecting Steve to finish with, “Or anyways this is what it would have said if I were editor at the Tablet…”

When it comes to Hamas there can be zero expectation of reciprocity so what is the point of being nice to them?

I am beginning to think the Palestinians and Israelis deserve each other. Where American Jews fit into this is more complicated, but a good start would be more focus on the first word and less on the second. How do you think your comments in this thread stack up in that regard, Jack?

Your reply is an informative, ostensibly not ignorant, description of some things selected from the past.

Regarding, however, more recent American history and the current issues Steve is actually writing about (and what my comment was about, i.e. recent and current elite meddling and the problems thereby caused) I will respond to you by simply quoting from his last paragraph,

… it would be anti-Semitic to notice that Jews made up a disproportionate fraction of white elites. But being ignorant of the obvious doesn’t mean your obliviousness isn’t ignorant.

reeducate Americans in new and better ways of thinking, writing,

This reminds me of how Henrik Ibsen used to keep a scorpion in a bell jar on his writing desk. The arachnid was understandably ticked-off by his circumstances, and showed it. Many literary experts postulated that the presence and influence of the scorpion led directly to an impact upon Ibsen’s thinking. Floyd and the rest of The Narrative were a scorpion, like Ibsen’s, constantly right there, scorpionesque, in your face. But the salutary Ibsen scorpion was of course not to be had.

That’s what’s wrong: Hitch is 100% right & then still misses the point because he talks just about one dimension of a multidimensional problem. All public intellectuals are like that.

Do you think the Squad considers Chuckie Schumer to be “one of us” or is he just an old white man who can’t die soon enough so that they can take over?

Politics can work in orthogonal space. He’s a son-of-a-bitch, but he’s our son-of-a-bitch is an ancient axiom. Stalin was our friend to defeat Hitler. China became our partner against USSR. Now, any old bastard is our partner against Putin or Xi.
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/m7ElaLRD1pLjsq9mrnYRpvf5afr9olUEMgQw3WM9rBoNGlovIp6DHGVTACcBMNi_f4UYomuRzqnW02TdgwZdwFY4B5kTTsPSydGTadlXcDxTnCC4pqFQvemaFQZzoLVrVaCnJMA

Sign up for this Third World War we’re about to plunge everybody into!”

I guess this is an attempt at gallows humor.

To have a WWIII you need formidable enemies.

So we have Israel, dangerous but not big enough to be formidable other than locally.Hamas and Palestinians? No.

The Gazans/Hamas are welfare terrorists supported by nations and rich Arabs who don’t like Israel. But they have a “grievance” like other conquered peoples. Okay, but that was a long time ago. As we told the Siberian Americans, “get over it and maybe someday you can own a lot of lucrative casinos.” Anyone here willing to die for them?

So they have no nukes and everyone is too close together to use them. Also, Arabs have many religious differences and in many ways, historically have hated each other more than the Jews.

Russia is preoccupied with other matters and China really doesn’t care much.

So this WWIII claim seems seriously overblown. In a few months most will have trouble locating “Gaza” on a map. Maybe it won’t even be there at all…

The Jews have done more damage to this country than any other group of subversives. The intelligent rapacious criminals masquerading as poor, innocent, lost lambs everyone hates – actually hate white Christians (see Maimonides and Radical Son by David Horowitz). The best analogy is something I’ve seen in outtakes from one of the cartoon shows Family Guy, South Park – one of those – of Mickey Mouse dressed in German SS clothes. Even when the Jews had gotten control of Disney; the last part of the film industry not controlled by them they had to propagate the myth that Disney was a Nazi. Oh, and by the way who owned all those cheap liquor stores in L.A. where blacks drank their lives away – I never heard any whining about that.

they’d try to square the circle by subtly shifting the message to “oh, but minority overrepresentation is good actually versus the evil ‘legacy’ majority” (since the gentile whites’ majority status is gone)

Already the case. Yet to hear that 13% of population being in 99% of commercials is unfair. I mentioned this to my libtard brother and he just said “they were under represented for decades so this is just making up for, you know, systemic racism.”

West Hollywood pogrom

Steve, sounds like you’re channeling greenblatt aka the kosher nosferatu with that one. Calm down.

The hate of European Christians may be the only glue uniting the reverse colonizers coming to Europe and that doesn’t bode well.

Hopefully in the near future people can build working diverse societies. I would prefer not to but there doesn’t seem to be an alternative. The demographics are baked in. Native Europeans will be a minority in some of their countries within 50 years.

One thing is certain you can’t build a successful diverse society based on hate and resentment. Especially of the successful people who keep the lights on. The current anti-white hate is bound to cause problems for Europeans and Jews. The woke and decolonizing rhetoric is poison.

Sure, a lot of elites didn’t really grasp that fact because it would be anti-Semitic to notice that Jews made up a disproportionate fraction of white elites. But being ignorant of the obvious doesn’t mean your obliviousness isn’t ignorant.

I say:

It is clear that Jews have a disproportionate control of the mass media and the advertising agencies and academia and other power centers of thought control and the rancid, donor-controlled Republican Party cowards won’t talk honestly about breaking up the mass media to prevent Jews from controlling the political and cultural discourse in the USA.

Go read The Israel Lobby and US Foreign Policy by Walt and Mearsheimer to see how certain Jews use their disproportionate political and media power to shape the foreign policy of the American Empire.

I think that this depends on to what extent Jews are actually stepping on the toes of blacks in the future. As you say, on the anti-Israel/pro-Palestine issue, in Europe (and on American college campuses) that is just the standard, taken for granted Leftist position in the Current Year. When you become a Leftist, they issue you your Palestinian scarf and that is that.

So what a big shock Mx. Workman was in for when she found out that corporate America is not down with that stuff. And you are probably right that the other fashionable Leftists will ixnay on the oojay stuff now that they know what happens if you open your mouth on this subject, at least if they aspire to work in that world. (A lot of them don’t and as long as they stay in their Leftist bubble they can keep wearing that scarf.) Because, in the end, what is Palestine to Mx. Workman? She probably couldn’t even find it on a map.

However, there are other areas where there may be direct conflict. E.g. affirmative action – for example the helpful suggestion that some people have made here (the extreme left and the extreme right always meet at the fringes) that there be racial quotas for Jews as well as blacks in accordance with population %. If you were black this might sound pretty reasonable to you.

And for a while, BLM sounded pretty good to Howard Schultz and he was all down with the anti-racist stuff. However, lately I have been reading a lot of headlines like “Starbucks will close seven of its downtown San Francisco stores” (a true headline). But the headline should actually read “Starbucks will close seven of its downtown San Francisco stores because Negroes have made downtown SF an unlivable hell”. Maybe Schultz is having 2nd thoughts about all this “homeless Negroes are welcome to hang out in our stores all day without buying anything” stuff ? Also, having to pay $25 million to the Starbucks manager who was fired for being white might have made him rethink the anti-white stuff a bit. Talk is cheap but $25 million a head is not. Meanwhile, I would have to guess that the position of BLM on this has not moved 1 inch.

To the extent that power (and funding) in the Democrat Party and the Left in general shift decisively away from Jews in the future (which it will because secular Leftist Jews are extincting themselves thru non-reproduction and intermarriage while there are ever more browns and Blacks are at the very top of the non-white heap) then in any such toe to toe matches the blacks are going to be the winners.

That is why your comparison to LGBT is not perfect. Yes, blacks are not really wild about gays and trannies. But they are not really in a position where their interests are directly opposed.

Thus, the conflict will be resolved only when European Christians, and their cultures and histories, are eliminated.

European “Christians” are doing this perfectly well without any outside help, what with their church attendance, low TFRs, immigration to staff the welfare state…

Philip Jenkins wrote a whole book about this, and an earlier one about how Christianity lost the Middle East. Here is his piece in September’s Chronicles:

Toward a Secular America

Jenkins is in the tradition of Belloc:

“Europe will return to the Faith, or she will perish. The Faith is Europe. And Europe is the Faith.”

Belloc again– can this be construed as optimism?

“The Catholic Church is an institution I am bound to hold divine – but for unbelievers a proof of its divinity might be found in the fact that no merely human institution conducted with such knavish imbecility would have lasted a fortnight.”

The number of foreign wars in which Jack has a deeply personal stake is up to two. His historic Middle Eastern enemies are here as well and just as passionate about their team. As the Palestinian bodies pile up, they are going to start shooting. Importing both sets of protagonists in ancient overseas fights that don’t concern us is foolish, and proceeding to pick sides in the bloody, existential fight over there is compounding the foolishness.

American Jews complicit in making Anglo-Saxons and Scots-Irish a minority in the US are slitting their own throats. The Brown American majority that will be here in twenty years is not going to care about either Ukraine or Israel.

But the headline should actually read “Starbucks will close seven of its downtown San Francisco stores because Negroes have made downtown SF an unlivable hell”.

This is true of many cities, but San Francisco? Are they commuting from Oakland to loot? Most of that street poop is the work of mad (literally) homeless whites, isn’t it? (Why they are homeless, or white, or in Baghdad-by-the-Bay are legitimate but separate questions. But the city has attracted mad whites for generations, like that guy who quit Moby Grape to join the Marines.)

If you want a model of the successful ethnic cleansing of blacks, San Francisco’s is as good as any: 15% in OJ’s youth there; 5% in his senescence. Detroit-in-reverse.

So many people scoff at Plato–“Dude believed in these things he called Forms which occupy some nether region beyond mere sense. Thought things in this world were fashioned after them. Said that knowledge of them and how they shape the world is akin to understanding geometry. What a maroon.”

Now we are engaged in a great debate about the Form “Jew”, testing whether that notion, or any notion so conceived can long endure.

Obscurants, such as JackD, claim that it is impossible to make general characterizing statements about Jews because they come in all different flavors and sizes. Another Jewish “thinker” took this to its natural conclusion and said the ephemerality itself was the defining characteristic of Jews. He made the laughable claim that they were the true Mercurial (a Greek archetype) peoples on the Earth.

Obviously, to make the claim that a class of peoples (Jews) exists and then to deny that there are any defining characteristics which confer membership in that class is absurd.

This is not to say that it is easy to come up with a formula which allows one to clearly and unambiguously assign membership in a class in all cases. Plato spent his entire life trying to crack that nut–and failed. So it is little wonder that even the Mighty Steve wrestles with the problem of “a true Scotsman” and resorts to fuzzy statistical modeling.

But the JackDeceives of the world insist that this site contains numerous “AntiSemites” and then he goes on the deny that Semitism exists! In doing so, he, ironically, behaves in true Jewish fashion. As Hitler noted when arguing politics with Jews on the sidewalks of Vienna, they were untroubled by logical and factual inconsistencies. “Mercurial”, as the guy cited above put it.

In The Republic, in the great debate between Thrasymachus and Socrates in which Thrasymachus asserts that the herdsman has no interest in his flock beyond maximizing profit, Socrates, in contrast, insists that the shepherd is concerned only with the welfare of the sheep.

This hinges on what some may regard as a pedantic point. Socrates insists upon the clean definition of the word, the pure concept. The Form. To the extent that the shepherd is acting as a shepherd then his prime concern is the welfare of the sheep. At the moment he strays from that function and considers instead his bottom line, at that moment he is no longer a Shepherd, but a Merchant. So it is incorrect to call him a shepherd when he is tallying up his profit and Thrasymachus is wrong, wrong, wrong however much Thrasymachus may chide Socrates for his apparent naivety.

Because, Plato is after bigger game. He realizes that once we allow language to become corrupted with false meanings and sophisticated citizens-of-the-world shades of irony, then thinking in general becomes confused and politics and morality as argued in the public sphere become nonsensical noise. The Sophists take over.

Just as lawyers do, their job is to make the worse cause appear the better and embroil their opponents in futile and ludicrous arguments that revolve around ambiguity of the meaning of words.

As for Statistics, Fuzziness may be okay, but, as the 20th century Existentialists brought to the fore, at some point you have to put your life on the line and choose. And that choice confers clarity and stability (however momentarily). So, there is a stubborn “isness is what it is” to the world and that is established in the human sphere by willful choice.

But critics of Plato, i.e. Aristotle, realized that if everything is locked down as an is, then things are compartmentalized and stuck. Nothing moves. Nothing is connected except with a mathematical equals or less-than-or-equal-to sign. Which means that the world of change is an illusion. And that doesn’t sit well with a man who is an Empiricist by nature.

So where does that leave us? To argue intelligently about the world, things must be seen as what they are. A man is a man, a woman a woman, a Jew a Jew and a Catholic a Catholic. And just as there is a “The Catholic Church” so too is there a “The Jewish Temple” or Tabernacle or Ark of the Covenant or what have you. “The Jew” is an entity just as is “The (universal) Catholic Church”. Denial of this is to repudiate Logic and make intelligent discussion impossible–which is, I believe, just what the JackD’s of the world are up to.

We must no more let them prevail than we would allow ourselves to be bullied by any thug or group of thugs–regardless of how well organized, ruthless and amoral they are. Note that in reacting in defense of their group they are disproving their own denial of group identity–existentialism rearing its head once again.

This is Elizabeth El-Nakla. She is my mother-in-law. A retired nurse from Dundee, Scotland. She, like the vast majority of people in Gaza, has nothing to do with Hamas. She has been told to leave Gaza but, like the rest of the population, is trapped with nowhere to go. pic.twitter.com/D3ZUtnEmyO

— Humza Yousaf (@HumzaYousaf) October 13, 2023

Israel is already taking potshots at Syria (home of the US Expeditionary 1st Tripwire Regiment) and Lebanon. The usual crowd is saying we have to go after Iran now. I’ve also seen some more unhinged neo-cons tying in Russia.

You’re probably right and northern Gaza is about to become southern Israel and life will go on, but crazy stuff can happen.

Well, they’d be mixed in with lower-performing Muslims and possibly some Middle Eastern Christians. There still wouldn’t be a specifically Jewish racial category.

American Jews had a spectacularly good 20th century, especially the 2nd half – as good for them as it was bad for the Jews of Europe. From being a despised minority in Czarist Russia, they flourished to an unbelievable extent in the welcoming American soil. (Jews tend to flourish anywhere thy are not oppressed – from a few dozen migrant from Germany they grew to be 10% of the population in an initially welcoming Poland. They turned Israel from a backwater of the Ottoman Empire into a high tech hub with a Western standard of living.)

Having an IQ advantage in the modern world is extremely valuable, like having a height advantage in the NBA. Being really good at pilpul in the shtetl didn’t get you much (except maybe a merchant’s daughter as your bride) but in America it gets you a gig in a law firm or as a professor or a Hollywood mogul.

I have no problem with people “noticing” that Jews make up a disproportionate fraction of white elites. That is not anti-Semitic in itself. It’s an undeniable fact. a disproportionate share of American Nobel prize winners, Harvard professors, top government posts (esp. in Dem. administrations), etc. This is all exactly what you would expect from their elevated average IQ.

Where it goes sour is this – a lot of people (especially here) don’t like the direction that elite America has gone in. OK, fair enough. Elite America has screwed up a lot of things (while at the same time also creating a lot of good things too. ) But they don’t blame “elite America” (remember that for all their disproportion, Jews are still only 20 or 25% of “elite America” at best – that leaves the other 75 or 80% in non-Jewish hands). They blame “the Joos”.

You’re probably right and northern Gaza is about to become southern Israel

so the gazans’ 5 mile by 25 mile box is going to be chopped in half, and 2.1 million people are now going to be stuffed in a 2 1/2 mile by 25 mile box, the southern half of their box remaining under siege. i don’t know, sounds like people being herded into a ghetto. and what does the airport in aleppo have to do with gaza? these people are clinically insane. no more mr. nice guy! as if ever.

something is definitely going on here. russia seems to be getting its way in ukraine now, so maybe best buds putin and netanyahu worked something out. or maybe this has to do with all of the gas fields at play off the coast of whatever in the mediterranean. or maybe it is the final gasp of the zionists trying to get its pet project of a war between FUKUS and Iran. who knows. from Barron’s.

A more concrete effect of the Israel-Hamas showdown is underway in the Eastern Mediterranean natural gas trade. Majors like Chevron, ENI, BP, Total Energies, and ExxonMobil are exploring, producing and in a few cases, exporting gas from the region.

War only amps up the risks facing these investments. Israel already closed its main oil port at Ashkelon and ordered Chevron to shut-in production from its platform on the offshore Tamar field. The shut-in could cascade into liquefied natural gas markets, since Israel exports surplus gas to Egypt, some of which is re-exported as LNG. Shares in Energean, another gas producer operating in the Israeli offshore, lost a fifth of their value on Monday.

For Chevron, a key driver for its investment in Israeli gas was the proximity to underutilized LNG capacity in Egypt. From Egypt, LNG cargoes would assist Europe in filling the void left when Russia cut off most gas deliveries. Much of the infrastructure behind that trade lies close to besieged Gaza. One way or another, war is bound to stress those relationships.

Meanwhile, there is increased uncertainty around a bid
by BP and the United Arab Emirates government-owned Adnoc to buy a 50% stake in Israel’s main upstream firm NewMed Energy. The potential for extended warfare—and targeting of offshore assets—could make foreign investors, particularly in Arab states, more circumspect about Israeli ventures, including Israel’s latest offshore oil and gas bid round.

Ironically, the modest Eastern Mediterranean gas boom was envisioned as a stabilizing force for a fractious region. Not long ago, Lebanon and Israel, still technically in a state of war, demarcated their maritime boundary in the Mediterranean. The newly drawn border allows them to begin producing from previously disputed fields. French oil major Total has gone ahead with exploration
in Lebanese waters.

Now, energy investors are reassessing the wisdom of entering a region where one of the world’s longest unresolved conflicts continues to erupt.

Frank Herbert said in the Dune Chronicles that liberals are closet aristocrats… only THEY know what’s best, they’ll do what THEY think is best for YOU, despite any (racist, misogynistic, etc) misgivings you might have or protests you might undertake.

Truer words never written, IMO.

One thing that is certain is that Gaza will not satiate Israel’s vengeance. There simply are not enough things to blow up. Tablet is already blaming Biden and Europe for Saturday’s massacre. Israel will strike Europe and likely the United States in the most horrific manner.

Prepare for a slaughter of untold proportions. It’s coming.

At worst, you are talking about a regional conflict here (basically Iran and its allies) and Iran is in no positions to start WWIII. The Russians and the Chinese align with Iran when it suits them but fundamentally they are not really aligned and aren’t going to start WWIII for the sake of the ayatollahs.

Hopefully, merely by sabre rattling , the US will be able to “persuade” Iran not to start even a regional war. The Iranians have already said things (which may or may not be true but in any case which indicate distancing) to the effect that the Hamas attack came as a surprise and was not planned by them. Having the Gerald Ford sailing off the coast of Israel as opposed to somewhere else doesn’t cost a nickel.

You’re probably right and northern Gaza is about to become southern Israel

That’s not what the Israelis want. They really don’t aspire to own a bunch of rubble. They are not Russia. I don’t know what step 2 in all of this will be but I am guessing that after they clear Hamas out of the northern half (the people aren’t really going to leave – the announcement gives them cover because they can say , hey , we warned the civilians that they should leave – if they didn’t listen, we are not responsible) then they will allow the civilian population back in, then rinse and repeat in the southern half, so after they are done with both halves they will have cleaned out Hamas from all of Gaza to their satisfaction without having to push the Gazans over the border to Egypt who doesn’t want them anyway.

At least that’s the plan on paper – it may not go as planned at all. But this is not a land grab – they have no interest in that.

The goal very obviously will be to establish a security buffer, like the Golan Heights.

What where the thousands of American missionaries doing in China, the Pacific Islands, Africa, etc. ? Were they not trying to create a better world and teach correct morality?

While some of those missionaries are probably as deluded as leftists, I think the difference is that they were probably actually trying to teach correct morality, to the best of their ability, while Jews/Leftists are usually trying to teach children how to do gay sex or how to be angry against whites and things like that.

Tikkun Olam is more about the Jews exporting their own obsessions and trying to “fix the world” in order to avoid looking in the mirror, or to the plank in their own eye, than to do actual good. At least, that’s my general impression. (That, when it’s not just a cover for “what’s good for the Jews”. i.e., the wars in Iraq, Ukraine, etc, are for “democracy”, not because Jews have some interest there.)

Jews are better when they are not trying to “fix the world” but just doing honest work. There are many good Jewish artists, writers, scientists. But when they get into politics or activism, God help us.

I hear Dave Rubin is based these days.

Normie Republicans eat this crap up. I also notice the sort of Republican who talks a lot about forgiveness for criminal monsters in the US sound like Genghis Khan when it comes to Palestinian toddlers.

Full agreement on that, Jack. And nothing is going to change until we as a society are willing to look at our own faults which proceed from Angloid Individualism.

That’s the problem with the alt right, they sound like a bunch of social workers blaming external factors for the failures of their chosen darlings.

I wonder what Jack D thinks about this?

If the deleterious effect of Jewish power is entirely incidental, not motivated by hatred or directed from a center, it makes no difference at all.
It’s killing us.
Those accepting the default hypothesis of Jewish power are essentially saying if the Jews don’t mean to poison the well of western civilization then it’s our lot to accept it. They are our superiors in achievement. Case closed. (HBD!)

Some of us say no. Some of us (well, me) say this: whether the holocaust is the greatest crime ever or a hoax makes no difference: the west should not be dismantled because of it.

People are being browbeat into self abnegation.

That’s not what the Israelis want. They really don’t aspire to own a bunch of rubble. They are not Russia.

The Russians are reconstructing quite a lot of stuff. Check out Mariupol these days.

It’s kinda funny. Russia invading Ukraine is wrong because, “Russia is big and powerful and Ukraine is tiny and defenceless” (never mind the US/NATO support).

But Israel levelling Gaza is “punching up”, or “justified”, because “decapitated babies” (or whatever excuse works).

You know why a lot of people dislike Jews? It’s because of their double morality. What’s good of the Jews is great, but if others want the same, that is bad. Nationalism and anti-immigration is bad if done by Europeans and Americans, but good if done by Israel. Bombing another smaller country is bad if it’s done by Russia, but good if done by Israel.

Whatever. But I agree the Israelis don’t want Gaza, or, at any rate, they don’t want the people who live there, but there’s nowhere they can easily deport them to.

P.S. COME ON, iSTEVE! Why do you take on average 6 HOURS to publish comments? That’s why a lot of commenters give up commenting on your blog. One day, only Jack D., HA and Corvinus will remain.

Jewish hatred of Christianity and disdain for Christians is a 2000 year old habit that will be hard to break. White people are the main body of Christians in the countries inhabited by most Jews. Demoralizing and de-Christianizing those people has been one of the main Jewish preoccupations since the liberal revolutions removed the road blocks to those efforts.

The Golan Heights have a topography which makes them of use. Also, not many Arabs there and Syria was never willing to bargain for it. Gaza is flatland and has masses of people living in it.

Without white cooperation, Jewish Power wouldn’t amount to much. True, Jews are the most powerful in the world but only because of blind loyalty from whites.

So, why isn’t the World-Historical Question as follows?

Will whites continue to serve Jews who mean to replace, defame, and dehumanize them OR will whites finally wake up and stop enabling Jews now twisted with arrogance and hubris?

Why is it only up to the Jews to decide but not for whites to decide?

Are whites without agency? Are whites without independence?

And if Jews don’t care about the fate of whites, why do whites care about the fate of Jews?

In India, the people no longer left it up to the British to deal with the world-historical question.
Will the Brits let us be independent or keep us as subjects?

No, they decided to act on their own. They soon realized that the British had no power over India if the Indians refused to cooperate.

So, the world historical question is really this.

Should whites stand up like real men and stop cooperating with people like Merrick Garland and Antony Blinken? Or should they go on like Lindsey Graham and Charles Murray in serving them?

Why can’t whites ask this question? Chicken?

Jews use wokeness against whites but, instead of calling out this Jewish tactic, the big question is “Gee, will Jews realize this may turn out bad for them?”

That’s the only hope for whites?

If someone tries to burn down your house, your big question is “Will he realize he may burn himself in the process and stop?”
That’s the only hope that your house may be saved?

Wow.

I also notice the sort of Republican who talks a lot about forgiveness for criminal monsters in the US sound like Genghis Khan when it comes to Palestinian toddlers.
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The only thing you’re noticing is the issue of your imagination.

I guess you never read Tablet.org which is catholic, your little brothers in the faith. Like I said before, the Statue of Liberty is facing out to the Atlantic ocean calling all the protestant persecuted to come to freedom, not the catholic persecutors or their english communist comrades. I guess you never looked to see how much money the catholics take from the government for their acts of holiness and charity with other peoples money. catholics and others like them are and were our worst nightmares. Peters faith is like a death cult for so many.

Here is their faith in all it’s gorey.
Hypatia
mathematician and astronomer
“Hypatia was brutally murdered by a mob of Christian fanatics. They pulled her from her carriage on a street in Alexandria, dragged her to a church, stripped her naked, beat her to death and/or flayed her, tore off her limbs, and burned her remains.”

https://www.britannica.com/biography/Hypatia

After leading France from the brink of defeat during the Hundred Years’ War, Joan of Arc was captured and put on trial for heresy by the English — then burned at the stake.
https://allthatsinteresting.com/joan-of-arc-death

Just so much to love from that faithful bunch. There is a reason I would suppose why God was so angry that Eve became wise, because we all know to eat of the tree of wisdom, to become like the Gods knowing good and evil will surely lead to your death. So out they went from the garden to toil in the land and be wise no more.

Likewise, the Forverts (the largest Yiddish daily paper) was not modeled after anything in the Old Country but after American taibloids.

Wasn’t it modeled after Vorwärts, a newspaper published by the Social Democratic Party of Germany (SPD) since 1876?

But they don’t blame “elite America” (remember that for all their disproportion, Jews are still only 20 or 25% of “elite America” at best – that leaves the other 75 or 80% in non-Jewish hands). They blame “the Joos”.

It may seem that way on this site, but it isn’t really the case. Among my acquaintances, who run the gamut from blue-collar workers to white-collar professionals, the most hated elites are usually state politicians. In most of the US Jews are barely on the radar.

It’s in the cultural sphere that you find most of the animosity, and most white gentiles do not actively engage in that. White Americans are some of the least culturally engaged of any European-derived people, probably because we’ve been so preoccupied with material concerns for so long.

This does open up a vacuum, which has been disproportionately filled by Jews (disproportionate to talent, even, due to the American character), and this creates some friction. However, if things really got hot here, I’d expect the first targets to be state and federal officials with little regard to their religion/ethnicity. In fact, the mutual hatred between different factions of white gentiles dwarfs ethnic animosity in the US as far as I can tell. If white gentiles really were more united in animosity toward Jews (or any other minority) than toward each other this would be a distinctly unpleasant place for them.

Once, Jews were used by European nobility as a deniable cut-out for the exploitation of the peasantry. For years recently in corporate thought leading (and going back decades in movies), Jews have sought to reverse this, demonizing non-billionaire white people as uniquely resonsible for everything bad (as opposed to George Soros, Larry Fink, Arnon Milchan, the Sacklers, that guy who didn’t kill himself, or various Pritzkers). In the time that they have been doing this they have never addressed the fact that the target audience here considers Jews to be white. Recently there was a weak effort on twitter to simply insist that Jews aren’t white; it crashed into a parallel effort to harangue “fellow white people.”
We are witnessing the proverbial “third generation” that cannot retain the family wealth. The elites we’re suffering under are not the people their grandfathers were, back when their talents were borne out by economic prosperity and explosive technological accomplishment.

“A retired nurse from Dundee, Scotland.”

Well, married to a Palestinian. And Youzaf, the “nationalist” Prime Minister of Scotland, is a Pakistani. Go figure.

I kinda wonder. With the Jews putting more and more brown people as leaders (puppets) in the West, this may actually rebound against Jews, as most of these brown people are more anti-semitic than your regular White.

Biden is responsible, he paid for it with the asinine Obama Iran deal (which was suspended under Trump), he projected weakness (and even now Anthony Blinken is running around trying to sound as weak as possible), and he screwed up what had been done right (attacking our Saudi allies). I don’t see Israel attacking America or Europe apart from how they already are, but, if there’s any Mossadnikim so inclined, you know, I hear Biden has a lot of trouble with staircases.

Did you hear unionized Starbucks workers came out in support of Hamas? Hamas, not Palestinians. If they were as media savvy as the Taliban, Hamas would release a statement that, since coffee is part of the great Arabic heritage and gift to the world, they find Starbucks’ product to be insulting.

“I think people on this board vastly over-estimate America Jewry’s emotional investment in Israel.”

Perhaps because a couple of the most frequent commenters here are so heavily invested?

I haven’t got a dog in this fight, but my government seem to think I have.

(they) already know and expect to get some backlash, (they) just think they will be able to avoid or deflect most of it. so far, they’re correct. maybe not forever though.

(they) also accept collateral damage as long as it’s in pursuit of higher goals. like (Dan Snyder) losing the Redskins brand, then losing the entire NFL team itself. (they) would take out (Stephen Miller) if they could. getting him gone is much more important for out-group reasons than protecting him is for in-group reasons.

US Secretary of State Blinken: “I came to Israel as a Jew and not just as a Foreign Minister.

And that is the problem.

You already know.

Not if they follow the Harvard model, in which gentiles are exclusively cleansed out to make room for the diversity. You don’t think Hollywood can do that? You don’t think high finance can do that? They probably already have.

Lol, of course! What do you think Asians are for? Jews have been steadily pushing whites out in favor of Asians, generally obnoxious yak-yak dot.Indians and American educated Chinese. Indians are inherently anti-white and while off-the-boat Chinese aren’t so much, their children fall instantly for cultural and university indoctrination and get on the anti-white bandwagon (yeah, yeah, there are exceptions, so what).

Asians are everywhere now in media, politics, big tech of course where Indians dominate, etc. Look at the Biden Administration. A senile old fool at the top, the actual leadership level is Jews, and a swarm of Indians underneath. Here are some of them. One face more punchable than the other, every single one an enemy of white people.

Scotland must be a really, really crappy place to retire…

Does anyone else find it jarring that the loudest denunciations of the migration of Jews to Palestine with the encouragement of Western governments, are from Muslims who migrated to Europe and the U.S. with the encouragement of Western governments?

Migrants are Good! Except when non Jews try to move to Israel.

Or non Muslims to virtually every Muslim official religion country.

So both can come here and hate each other over things they are doing far away.

Bonus point though. AOC and her “Squad” of Comrades are now revising their Hate The Cops doctrine. Seems like imaginary threats to them are spurring a revisionist party line.

The Capitol Cops are now the Squad’s first line of defense. Careful though, don’t stand too close to those big glass doors…

There are few places in the U.S. where Jews are sufficiently dense in population to meaningfully affect elections,

That’s what Zuckerbucks are for.

Or better yet, Ron Unz and Bill Kristol should get together and decide this country’s immigration policy. According to Ron, this actually happened, and Ron told Kristol to keep the immigrants coming.

Yes, but would Jews without a recent connection to Israel actually be able to list their race/ethnicity as MENA? After all, some Jews’ connection to Israel is a whopping 2,000 years old!

Personally, though, if a MENA category were to become available, with Israeli as an option, then I would mark both MENA/Israeli (1/4) and white (3/4) as my race/ethnicity. Since I was born in Israel, this would certainly be fair game for me. 🙂

Steve, if blacks want many more of the currently Jewish jobs, have they ever considered that their smart fraction needs to breed much more? After all, AFAIK, US black fertility is currently severely dysgenic. Unless they intend for smart black immigrants to take these jobs from Jews rather than black American descendants of slaves?

Don’t be baffled. The majority of rabbis believe that Islam is noahide compliant and is thus an acceptable religion under Judaism. The same cannot be said about Christianity or Hinduism for example. The general consensus is that in the Jewish holy book, the Talmud, Jesus is said to be boiling in animal excrement in hell. They also have some unkind words for the Holy Mother. As far as I know, there is no comparable condemnation of Muhammed (PBUH). Orthodox Jews are instructed to spit when they pass a Christian church. Again, I do not think there is a comparable obligation to spit when passing a mosque. One of the daily prayers that Orthodox Jews recite is a call for God to destroy Christianity. There is no daily prayer condemning Islam. On average Judaism and Jews have a much more positive view of Islam than Christianity which is viewed as a uniquely evil heresy that must be obliterated from the face of the earth.

In the big picture, the palestians are but a speed bump. Jews are religiously and culturally obligated to subvert Western Christian civilization which in the general consensus is referred to Edom, the eternal enemy of the Jewish people. Edom tends to skip around depending who is the enemy de jour, but the general consensus is Western Christianity is Edom these days. It is literally a mitzvah, and a critical one at that, to destroy/subvert Edom. Reform and secular Jews tend to not be comfortable with the Edom talk so they generally take the position that they are at war with Whiteness which is less medieval sounding, but effectively has the same outcome.

This is why any talk about reigning in Woke is comically inane. It is a nice sentiment, but fundamentally on a religious and cultural level ridiculous.

“American Jews complicit in making Anglo-Saxons and Scots-Irish a minority in the US”

Normies don’t believe in this bs that you peddle.

“The Brown American majority that will be here in twenty years is not going to care about either Ukraine or Israel.”

Finally, you get something right.

In News you won’t see from the lying liars who’ve spent ten months lying about Ukraine:

Things continue to both pick up pace and seemingly slow down at the same time.

After making boisterous threats of immediate ground assault into Gaza, the IDF apparently has gotten cold feet and sobered up to the harsh reality that they would face inordinate losses and/or defeat. So now, they’re pretending to gather forces while re-evaluating the situation, and their chances. In the meantime, they’ve resorted to indiscriminately mass bombing civilians from the sky.

But major problems in mobilization have been revealed:

And there’s more

https://simplicius76.substack.com/p/israeli-ground-forces-get-cold-feet?

Scotland must be a really, really crappy place to retire…

Gaza is a poor Scott’s Scottsdale, Arizona.

Do you think the Hamas attacks will cost Biden the election? I think it will, but I do not think Trump will get back into office.

Apparently Israelis are indeed to be considered a part of the MENA category if this category is adopted:

https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/israelis-be-included-proposed-mena-us-census-category

Which is great news for me! IMHO, Trump made a huge mistake in not adding this category to the 2020 US Census. Even from his own perspective, it would have served well to play to his white base the need to further restrict immigration (which I myself disagree with, but which Trump’s base wanted) due to the diminution of the white percentage in the US even further. It’s not like MENA people, especially Muslims, are actually widely considered white nowadays, especially if they have darker skin. Would Americans actually consider Osama bin Laden to be white, for instance? Or Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi?

As a side note, I wonder if the end result of all of the anti-white hate in the US’s political discourse could long-term result in the abolition of the US white census category and its replacement by various sub-categories such as Italian/Mediterranean, German/Scandinavian/Nordic, Slavic, et cetera. After all, AFAIK, Portland has already officially declared its Slavs to be people of color:

https://www.unz.com/akarlin/russians-are-black/

So, who will come to power in the US in 2024 in Trump’s place? Vivek? Someone else?

As for me, personally, No, I don’t think that the Hamas attacks will cost Biden the election, because they occurred in Israel and not in the US. Also, Biden has been very pro-Israel after these attacks.

Not to be confused with Fuckerbucks lol!

I don’t know, the people who resigned themselves to the doddering fool who was “wrong about everything for forty years” did not care about Kabul. I am hearing about Jewish philanthropists withdrawing their donations for crackpot universities, so that’s something. And all it took was hundreds of dead teenagers.
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The thing about the Biden White House is that even the handlers are morons. Did you catch Jack Kirby (regarding the fourteen Americans stuck in Israel) say that there’s lots of ways to get out, including driving. Really? Driving? So driving to or through one of Israel’s immediate neighbors? Really?

“The world-historical question at the moment is whether American Jews — who are, arguably, the single most influential politically mobilizable group in the modern globe — will figure out that Woke anti-white hatred is inherently anti-Semitic”

Yes, it’s the world historical question to YOU and others.

Woke anti-white hatred is code for anything a conservative opposes, no matter how minor or marginal it is. Civil rights laws? Woke anti-white hatred. Gay themed books in a public library? Woke anti-white hatred. Commercials showing mixed couples? Woke anti-white hatred.

As far as “Woke anti-white hatred” = inherently anti-Semitic, make the argument yourself rather than inferring it is unquestionably factual.

“the set for hours on the evening of May 30, 2020 by helicopter newscam footage of the Mostly Peaceful Protest in West Hollywood turning into a pogrom on Fairfax and Melrose, the heart of Jewish America west of the Hudson River”

Is tin cup narrative time upon us? Of course there was mayhem by thugs posing as peaceful citizens exercising their constitutional right to assemble in the immediate aftermath of Floyd’s death when he got kneed in the neck by a cop for over 9 minutes. My impression is that it just easier for you to channel your inner Bill Connor and characterize such street marches as being inherently law breaking, rather than recognizing these rallies were predominantly law abiding. But that takes NOTICING.

https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2020-06-14/protesters-march-hollywood-to-west-hollywood-call-for-racial-justice

The world-historical question at the moment is whether American Jews — who are, arguably, the single most influential politically mobilizable group in the modern globe

They are not merely politically influential.

Jews excel not merely at business, law, entertainment, media, economics, etc. Jews excel in every possible endeavor.

See here where 50-year-old Bill Goldberg comes out of a 12-year retirement to defeat Brock Lesnar in just 84 seconds :

You may call this scripted entertainment with a pre-determined outcome, but rapid victories over high-profile opponents are not just handed out randomly. This is one of extremely few rapid victories against a top-tier opponent that has ever happened. Especially when Brock Lesnar was also an MMA champ (i.e. real combat).

Rarely has the full spectrum of Jewish excellence been captured within a mere 84 seconds.

Thomas Sowell calls this “the tyranny of visions”.

No one really knows if “Hypatia” was a philosphor or a mathematician. She was the daughter of a philosopher and there are stories of her teaching at his school. None of her writings survive. She wasn’t killed because of her “philosophy”, as best as historians can tell, real historians not ideologues, is that she was caught up in what was essentially a civil war between Christian sects, pagans and Jews. Atrocities were committed on all sides. I know you pagans would prefer Christians who allow themselves to be beaten, robbed and killed without retaliating, but that’s not human nature. Generally.

LOL, no, I’m not. I’m not talking about MAGA chuds here. They are stupidly belligerent, but they are consistent usually, and aren’t hypocrites.

I’m talking never-Trumper pearl-clutching types who talked about sentencing reform until recently and made excuses for criminal lowlifes. The David French wing of the party.

The kind of people who bemoaned the coarseness Trump brought into the public sphere, but nod their heads approvingly when some Israeli General talks about leveling streets in Gaza.

It’s Deja Vu, these people acted the same way in 2001-2002.

Funny that your analysis mentions neither Iran nor the US aka Uncle Shmuley. Anything happens to that big floating target called the USS Gerald Ford, I promise you that even with Iran having nothing to do with it, Iran will be blamed and Shmuley will go literally ballistic. Heck, that poofter lindsay graham is already to go to war with Iran.
As to which regional party might attempt such an, ahem, infamous act, please note that there’s one which has both motive and a proven history of attempting to pull off similar shenanigans. Lavon Affair or USS Liberty, anyone?

When had Ukrainian terrorists invaded Russia & massacred Russian civilians?

Both the Obama and Biden administrations have proposed a MENA category, with zero discussion in the news media of how Jews would or would not fit in.

The MENA category could confuse a lot of people.

We keep hearing about how every major Hollywood studio is led by Whites. What would happen if all of the leaders were reclassified as MENA? “Oscars So MENA” doesn’t have the same ring to it.

And what about Wall Street, the Ivy League, the Senate, the State Department, Social Media monopolists, etc.?

Reading that article from “the Tablet”, I was wondering if it occurred to them that Elon, Zuck, Zaslav, the Sulzbergers, the Redstones, the Roberts’s, etc., aren’t from some group of brown upstarts trying to take power away from people like them, they are people like them.

If Jews can identify in that category, how Jewish do you have to be? Half? Quarter? Eighth?

If elite Jews had been paying attention they would have seen this coming in some form 20 years ago. Back then many of the anti-war in Iraq protestors were openly antisemitic, and many campuses were dealing with increased antisemitism. Makes me wonder how powerful they truly are.

John McWhorter was a bit slow as well. But he gets it now.

Over 25 years I missed, was mauled by, and finally understood the idea that battling power differentials, rather than pure curiosity, is what humanities/social science inquiry must focus on. Read this and so much rhetoric and hostility makes perfect sense. https://t.co/AYhFpQLOei

— John McWhorter (@JohnHMcWhorter) January 20, 2018

It will be interesting to see what effect, if any, the new round of fighting in and around Gaza will have on 2024 Presidential Election poll numbers.

In Israel, people seem to be very upset at Bibi for being so unprepared. I suspect that his poll numbers will take a major hit.

In the Republican primaries, some of the more neocon-friendly voters might move from DeSantis to Haley due to her foreign policy experience; but I don’t see Trump losing enough voters to Haley to make Haley the nominee.

I’m not sure if recent events will cost Biden too many votes; but I doubt that they will help him. I guess that depends on how Trump reacts. Trump has made some comments about Hezbollah that haven’t been well-received. There is also a risk that our forces in the region could be attacked and suffer nontrivial casualties, which would almost certainly result in Congressional hearings.

“We do the work”, as Jonathan Greenblatt likes to say so many times. https://www.c-span.org/video/?527766-1/bill-kristol-speaks-anti-defamation-league-leadership-summit

I agree with this. Jews are not white,

Tiny Duck, there was that one time that you were a Jew:

Tiny Duck says:
June 7, 2016 at 6:58 pm GMT
[…]
Since I am descended from German Jews,

…and that other time that you were Native American:

Tiny Duck says:
April 18, 2021 at 2:41 am GMT

And what’s even more infuriating, is I am Native American. Say that slowly – NATIVE American. I’m not white, white is not the original color of this country.

…when weren’t busy being white:

Tiny Duck says:
July 30, 2014 at 1:42 pm GMT

Just looking at the big picture it seems that the problem is the continued existence of white people. And I say that as sort if a white guy.

Tiny Duck says:
August 6, 2014 at 1:51 pm GMT

War on whites?! Hah. Funny, I’m white and haven’t really noticed.

You should read the Yggdrasil essay in which he discusses Dr. Strangelove.

Jack D said: “If they didn’t need the Jewish donor base it would have perhaps happened already.”

Hunsdon replied: “Ya think?”

A third option is that Jews get themselves some kind of recognized minority status and official entry into the coalition of the fringes

In what way does what you describe not already exist? Indeed, understanding it is a key-stone to U.S. political-history.

You say it exists “de facto,” but I’m not sure what function the idea of “de facto” has in this case. Unless you refer to census categories, with outright-explicit legal privileges for Jews (more than already exist or can be wriggled into), and blanket-exemption for Jews from ant-White discrimination, citing the Holocaust and anti-Semitism.

(That would be an honest adjustment to the USA’s true-constitutional order, which would be reflective of reality.)

Cartoons have no problem changing color.

Jews are a problem for this country but they are not the biggest problem. A black like Barack Obama is a problem. A Hispanic like AOC is a problem. A Muslim like Ilhan Omar is a problem. A white Democrat like Joe Biden or Hillary Clinton are a problem. A white Republican like Lindsey Graham or Mitch McConnell are a problem. What all these people have in common is that they all belong to the Washington uniparty that has been running this country in recent years. That uniparty is the biggest problem.

US Secretary of State Blinken: “I came to Israel as a Jew and not just as a Foreign Minister.”

I think this may be a fake quote. It appears on some Twitter accounts and nowhere else.

One of these Twitter-feeds puts up a video o with it, but Blinken says nothing like this line. Blinken shakes hands with Israel’s prime minister and mumbles something like: “It’s good to see you; I’m sorry it had to be in these circumstances.” A 16-minute press-conference yesterday between the two Jews, Blinken and Netanyahu, also has nothing like this quote (“I came here as a Jew”).

It can be said there a poetic truth to the quote. But until we see evidence, assume it was made-up.

(Relatedly, there was recently an article going around titled “The Internet is not fun anymore,” which depicted an across-the-board deterioration, including but not limited to the rise of fake-virality. The accounts that pushed the “I came here as a Jew” line, without any citation, often have huge follower-counts.)

What where the thousands of American missionaries doing in China, the Pacific Islands, Africa, etc. ? 

Spending way too much effort on people who would always hate and resent them no matter which God they worshiped nor what manner they worshiped said God. A foolish waste of time, tikkun olam isn’t a Latin phrase. If you’re going to engage in whataboutism, I’ll happily tell you the Judeo-christian mission to make the whole world worship Yahweh was a waste of the minds and blood of good men.

If you take them all out, we can return the country back to the Native Americans and do a Ghost Dance while singing Kumbaya.

According to Ngram’s American-English corpus, the phrase “religion of peace” emerged from a very-low usage baseline and began registering in the data in year 1999. It gained ground mainly in 2001. In 2002-2004, “religion of peace” consolidated its gains in the language.

In 2004, “religion of peace” entered into a plateau-period, which lasted to 2016.

Those who readily recall the phrase “religion of peace” and its place in political discourse must have been of age in the early-mid-2000s breakthrough-period to remember when it (“religion of peace” as a phrase/concept) stormed onto the language-scene. In other words, people born after 2000 will have a much different view of the reference than b.1990s and b.1980s people (and older).

By the 2010s, “religion of peace” had more-or-less become a cliche. From 2017 to 2019, “religion of peace” was in decline per Ngram. In the latter few yearsof “religion of peace’s” decade-plus-long plateau period (2004 to 2016), it was probably significantly-more-often being used ironically than the many unironic usages of the early-mid 2000s, including George Dubya Bush who I believe repeatedly used it at the time.

The peak-year for “religion of peace” was 2009 in the ENG corpus. In the AM-ENG corpus, 2009 was also a weak peak, but the actual graphical peak in AM-ENG is actually 2015-16 (the era of ISIS), by which time “religion of peace” was likely being used ironically, by detractors (such as a certain attention-getting reality-tv guy with a certain bold hair-color).

It’s not obvious and that’s not what’s going to happen. What kind of buffer is the northern half if they can till shoot from the southern half?

Can you be bit more open minded and welcome new allies in the war against the wreckers who want to ruin our civilization or would you rather be stupid and smug.
You have a choice, please make the smart move.

In 1973, Richard Nixon saved Israel’s bacon (figuratively). Jews voted 70% Democrat in 1976.

In the 1980’s, the Republican party captured Evangelical Christians, who are the single most pro-Jewish, pro-Israel demographic in the world. Jews continued to break vastly Democrat, culminating with 80% voting for Clinton in 1992.

In 2016, Donald Trump attempted to curtail Muslim immigration. Jews went 70% for Biden in 2020.

The current Pope’s outreach to Jewish leaders is practically the only one of his actions of which Traditional Catholics approve. The ADL continues to call TLM Catholics nazis, and the DOJ tags them as terrorists.

Jew’s have had a number of chances to recognize where their self interest lies. Fuck ’em.

Not that I know of.

Cahan {the founder of the Jewish Daily Forward] was made a full-time reporter for the New York Commercial Advertiser, and it was this position as an apprentice of reporter Lincoln Steffens that prepared Cahan for his coming role as a founding editor of the Jewish Daily Forward.[20]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abraham_Cahan

Tablet.org doesn’t exist.

I am glad to see some good old fashioned anti-Catholic sentiment here. Usually the Jews get 100% of the blame. Anti-Catholic sentiment used to be synonymous with anti-immigrant sentiment in America but nowadays the Men of Unz (some of whom are apparently Catholic themselves) reserve their bile only for the Jews even though most of the immigrants are Catholic, the Supreme Court is Catholic dominated, the President is Catholic, etc.. But they seem completely oblivious to that – sure Joe Biden is Catholic but what about the invisible Jews who are pulling his puppet strings (that only the Men of Unz can see with their x-ray Joovision).

TBH, I’d prefer that people skip the hatred altogether but if you are going to do it then spread it around and don’t save it all for the Joos.

https://web.archive.org/web20231012185542/https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2023/10/12/blinken-israel-netanyahu-hamas-gaza/

TEL AVIV — Secretary of State Antony Blinken invoked his Jewish ancestry on Thursday in a markedly personal appeal to the Israeli public aimed at offering solidarity as the country reeled from the deadliest assault in its 75-year history.

“I come before you not only as the United States secretary of state but also as a Jew,” Blinken told an audience at Israel’s Defense Ministry in Tel Aviv.

I am in Israel during this incredibly difficult moment for this nation and for the entire world. As Secretary of State, as a Jew, as a husband and a father, I understand on a personal level the harrowing echoes Hamas's massacres carry. pic.twitter.com/aY7MrAdK62

— Secretary Antony Blinken (@SecBlinken) October 12, 2023

a famous comedian

One of the modern, unfunny, kinds of comedian.

the gazans’ 5 mile by 25 mile box is going to be chopped in half, and 2.1 million people are now going to be stuffed in a 2 1/2 mile by 25 mile box, the southern half of their box remaining under siege. i don’t know, sounds like people being herded into a ghetto…

A 2.1-million population which, as of the 2010s, had a TFR about 4.0; to be squeezed into a “box” less than three-times the size of Manhattan Island.

Unless, as is predicted by some, Israel launches Palestinians into Europe, demands that Europe take them and never send them back. An “Immigration Samson Option”?

(Meanwhile, in Germany, the surging AfD, media linked to it, call for German neutrality in the Palestine conflict. “Israel: Nicht Unser Krieg!” says Compact Magazine.)

Thanks for the picture of Mx. Workman (who is also non-binary, for an added bonus). I don’t know how many Jews will be rethinking things but I’ll bet some will. But the hardcore left are crazy and not open to reason, IMHO.

I argued that given that poll after poll showed that average white American were very sympathetic to Jews while many migrants were not, it was foolish and short sighted to champion more of the people who, on average, hate us. Look what happened to France!

I take it your arguments were unsuccessful. Yet it’s so blindingly obvious.

squeezed into a “box” less than three-times the size of Manhattan Island.

Well Manhattan itself has 1.6 million people so this would be much less crowded than Manhattan.

The box is just temporary until Israel is done rooting out Hamas from the northern half of Gaza. Then the Gazans (but not Hamas) can have the whole stinking (literally since Hamas digs up the donated European pipes and makes them into rockets) place to themselves.

And isn’t it nice that the taxpayers of the EU can pay high taxes and have small families (Italy – TFR= 1.2) so the Gazans can have lots of kids to do jihad.

The whole situation in Gaza is insane and cannot go on the way it was. They need to stop reproducing like rabbits on donated food – this is cruel rather than kind. Most of the population needs to disperse into the Arab world. Having them sitting there for 75 years festering their grievances and having lots of babies is insane. Less than 200,000 fled to the Gaza strip and now they are 2 million.

It’s not a good look for Tablet if they proclaim themselves as being so “other.”

If he was in Gaza, he would get thrown off a high-rise building

What constitutes a high rise in Gaza?

The tallest, (the) al-Ghifari Tower, is 20 stories. The only skyscraper site I found that lists it doesn’t give an exact height or date of completion– only 1995-2002. The IDF demolished an 11-story building in 2021.

Gaza, the Strip not just the city, is the size of Philadelphia, which it surpassed in population by 2010. Philadelphia’s Sister City of Tel Aviv has at least 48 buildings with 30 or more stories.

Jack D is parachuting into Gaza with Uzi ablazin’ right now. That’s what he thinks!

and Ron told Kristol to keep the immigrants coming.

About as Deep State as Deep State gets :

They need to stop reproducing like rabbits on donated food – this is cruel rather than kind.

If those donated foods or even water pipes can be coated with contraceptive, it would be far cheaper than waging expensive wars.

Perhaps future Gaza will be the Hong Kong of the middle East …

Usually the Jews get 100% of the blame

Not true. At all. I see a lot of negativity towards all kinds of Asians. Mainly due to envy, for being a bit too successful. Disproportionate to their numbers.

Greetings, Mr. Hail,

The Talmud states multiple times that it is forbidden to directly count the Jewish people.

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Especially the elegant little slander of Syria’s president tucked into the screed.

What’s not to like about people who know their duty and fulfill it every single time.

The best way is to Egypt, already over 100 M.

But then- the entire West should be closely watching Afro-Asian space & closing its gates to racial/ethnic swamping, which will naturally result in higher fertility & will to live a more normal life, where family plays an important life- and not just an empty hedonist egocentric existences.

The West is low fertile not because of some moral failing, but because of a combination of greed, status anxiety, void secularism has created & nothing else has filled & and a failure of nerve to live a full human life.

Italy had 1.6 M live births in 1961; now, 0.4 M & 21% of that having one non-Italian parent, some of them being non-European/white.

People- be catholic in your hate.

As long as you’re on Wikipedia, click another link and see what it has to say about the history of the newspaper.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Forward

The first issue of Forverts appeared on April 22, 1897, in New York City.[16] The paper was founded by a group of about 50 Yiddish-speaking socialists who had organized three months earlier as the Forward Publishing Association.[16] The paper’s name, as well as its political orientation, was borrowed from the German Social Democratic Party and its organ Vorwärts.

„Der Name Forverts – eigentlich ein deutsches Wort; jiddisch müsste es foroys heißen – wurde von dem gleichnamigen Zentralorgan der deutschen Sozialdemokratie, dem Vorwärts, übernommen.“

Now you know.

If you take them all out, there will still be plenty of people in this country. They used to be a majority of people in this country when this was a better country and they still exist as a large minority. Many of the Republicans who were unhappy with the neocon drift of their party and voted for Trump fall into this category.

Correct, the turd on SF’s sidewalks is from white homeless. The black contribution is the looting and the car breakins. From Oakland, SF is just ten minutes on BART, and youfs don’t bother to pay the fare.

Can you post a link ?

You’re still here, I guess. Search engine kept telling me Steve Sailer at Unz was not available. Got in through link at Vdare. Hope it was a technical problem, and not this post getting censored

Your comment is nonsensical, idiotic, full of grammar errors and typos, and appears written by a drunk AI bot, yet it was published before my two comments sent hours ago. So much for iSteve’s “quality of commenters”. LOL. I give up.

The Ashkenazi once opposed affirmative action during the time of Bakke until they realized the people getting screwed were White Protestants and Catholics. Being anti White ok. Anti Semitic. Evil.

They did arguably worse, they bombed their own Russian-speaking civilians in the Donbass. It would be like Israel bombing their Israeli Arabs. (On the other hand, since Gaza is under Israel’s responsibility more or less, it’s also bombing people who are under your control, or a seceding province, not an enemy country).

Note, Israelis/Jews and Arabs/Muslims are clearly different, despite some things in common, in particular the fanaticism, but the distinction between “Russians” and “Ukrainians” is a bit more arbitrary, especially in some regions. It’s more about “whose government/foreign influence I prefer”, Nationalism becomes more extreme because they hate being reminded they are almost the same. Kind of Serbians and Croats, although Croats at least have a different religion and many decades of hate behind them.

Another similarity is that there’s a lot of Jews involved in the Ukrainian side, so this also explains why Jews support both the Ukraine and Israel. It has nothing do do with morality. It’s all about whose side are the Jews on, “what’s good for the Jews”.

Many years ago I read Norman Podhoretz’ “Breaking Ranks”, about how he turned from leftism. He and the other neocons declared their friendship with real Americans, were accepted, and promptly subverted the Right. Jews cancelled Joe Sobran and Samuel Francis, got them fired from National Review, and pressured newspapers to drop their columns. Sobran lost 80% of his syndicated income. The neocons only purpose was to suck the GOP into Israel’s orbit, and to destroy anyone who questioned their right to do so.
We don’t need those smiling backstabbers.

-Discard

The Arabs won’t take them.

You know that. I know that.

On the other hand, the Economist whipped trash and fools who run the EU will be lining up to show the world that they are ‘Big Hearted People’, (translation, soft docked people), and will foist them on the unwilling and unhappy actual citizens of the EU, putting them up in five star hotels, along the way and costing the typical euro peasant *billions* of euros in support.

Europeans. Your real enemy is your own political class.

This is a very good piece I meant to link as soon as I saw this “Hypatia” invoked (I could not at the time because of the comment limit):
https://tofspot.blogspot.com/2015/02/hypatia-part-i-mean-streets-of-old.html

Doesn’t the military/military industrial complex matter? How about the energy sector? Do they ever influence political or social events (or whatever the “matters” is)? How about the chemical industry? How about insurance?

Yes, of course these things matter, but how they matter is largely determined by Ivy Leaguers, Cabinet members, media machers, and central bankers.

Not far from this very page page some chap calling himself Ron Unz looks at just what these people believe.

https://www.unz.com/runz/american-pravda-oddities-of-the-jewish-religion/

A group from my church landed in Tel Aviv for a Holy Land tour just as the attack began last Saturday afternoon. Some of them flew back out of Tel Aviv in the next few days, but the remainder of the group stayed on the tour until Thursday (they visited the Sea of Galilee, the Dead Sea, and Masada; they didn’t go to Jerusalem), at which point they crossed into Jordan by land on a minibus. They went to Petra, and then flew out of Amman. I’ve been in touch with several of them, and they all report it was pretty routine.

As much as I despise the Biden administration, this particular statement is not completely incredible.

I suspect that traditional Jewish Americans would not be considered MENA, but Israeli Ashkenazi Jews might be, which would be fairly absurd.

In a Volokh piece discussing the new Middle Eastern and North African US FED category, MENA, 7/27/2022, titled The Proposed New MENA “Racial” Classification and the Jews.”
The penultimate concluding paragraph states: “Relatedly, as noted above many American Jews will adopt the MENA classification, leading to communal tensions with other MENA Americans as Jews take a share of whatever gains the others believe are “supposed” to go to them.”

This will apply to 13 CFR 124.103, a federal regulation, an SBA list of what groups are ‘rebuttably presumed’ to be ‘socially disadvantaged’ simply by virtue of ethnicity.

The list makes no sense, it might as well be titled ‘List of nonwhites who will get set asides’

Even now subcontinental Indians are rebuttably presumed to be ‘socially disadvantaged’, even though they are at the top of Wikipedia’s list of income by ethnic groups.

We in America will hardly notice the change because we are bad and guilty, according to TV the ultimate arbiter.

How will this go over if Jews are labeled nonwhite and ‘socially disadvantaged’ even though they are a third of the billionaires and average twice the income of most Americans?

Sorry, but the most damaging elite group in US history were Southern plantation owners.

Apart from ethnic self interest in holding on to better jobs, the best part of the Jewish traditions in the West have favored free debate, smart progress and empirically based arguments, all of which are contradicted by the patent idiocies of wokeness.

And a minor sub-question significant for urban America is whether the Jewish real estate interests who invest in our cities while also helping to finance the primary campaigns of black politicians – tantamount to election in most cities – will begin to gently jerk some chains and remind these politicians that exploding crime rates are bad for business, commerce, real estate ROI and ability to finance campaigns.

I was prompted to this latter thought by glancing at the population trend in Washington, DC. Washington’s population peaked around 1950, after the New Deal and WWII had created a boom in Federal employment and just as DC schools began desegregation, continued to decline after the Warren Court crime wave took hold, then finally enjoyed a modest recovery starting in the early 2000s as a series of sane black mayors, starting with the hyper-competent Anthony Williams, started to deliver better government. But post-2020, DC population is once more on the down trend.

Elon is MENA?

You mention outsized Jewish influence. I keep saying it on this forum, but is that a factor in non-Anglophone societies or societies that haven’t been massively influenced by American cultural and political institutions like post-WW2 NATO Europe?

What makes Anglo-Saxon societies so susceptible to minority influences? In all societies there have been times when small, determined minorities have influenced politics, most often as court cliques. It usually ends poorly for the court cliques after about a decade or so. And is usually the result of degeneracy in the monarch. You also have conquest by a military dominant minority.

But a “peaceful” generations-long overhauling of institutions, cultural trends, etc by a minority simply does not happen. There is no parallel that I can think of. It’s not just the US, Britain is similarly open.

The best book on this remains Trollope’s The Way We Live Now . It’s the mix of stupidity, liberal individualism, and greed. Greed overpowers all, even snobbery.

Nothing will change because our societies will never abandon liberal individualism and greed until forced to by balkanization. A rejection of Evangelical Christianity will also help.

“spitting at the sight of Christians carrying a cross in Israel on Twitter (which maybe someone can link to) – it’s quite shocking and revealing for Christians in the West who are oblivious to this kind of routine behavior by Jews in the Holy Land.”

This is what my 17 year old has been preaching at Hillsdale Academy during their discussions and debates on the Middle East and earlier, Ukraine. The teachers don’t want to acknowledge it and the kids of professors don’t want to hear it. Read all of Scripture, foolish Christians, not just The Gospels.

It’s hard to resist the urge to point out the radical shift in American Jewish identity that occurred in the ‘60s mirroring the rise of Black identity, while the rest of white America continued to observe the old individualistic American civil religion (increasingly under pressure from the government and media).

They bombed a fifth column which supported the Russian subversion & invasion of Ukraine. They, Russians & Russian-supporting”Ukrainians” must be booted out of Ukraine, as were 3 million of Sudetenland area Germans in 1945.

You start an existential war against other people in whose internationally recognized country you reside. The result can be only in cleansing the fifth columnists.

To be fair, 20 stories is more than enough. Plus, trannies are generally so fragile that an accidental nudge off the curb could shatter them.

the Supreme Court is Catholic dominated
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Amy Coney Barrett has ordered her life in a way that suggests the Catholic faith is lived, as did Antonin Scalia. Kavanaugh, Alito, Roberts, and Thomas are a puzzle. Sonia Sotomayor is a complete zero. Wm. Brennan was a zero and Anthony Kennedy not much better than zero.

Hail, I appreciate you pulling the data and it’s good to know about the peak of “Religion of Peace” being 2009.

My point was nobody in the media is concerned what us evil Americans are going to do to the poor peaceful Muslims here in America, like the media typically does after a Muslim terrorist attacking the U.S.

The anti-Semites of Unz consider all Jews to be the same whether or not they have ever set foot in a synagogue. Even 1/4 Jewish baptized Episcopalians like A.G. Sulzberger are “Jews” to them. In fact the Jews that they like the least are the ones who are least connected to the Jewish faith.

I’m sure that if they were concerned about Catholic domination of the Court (strangely they aren’t even though Catholics were traditionally the main target of anti-immigrant sentiment) that they would consider all of the Catholic Justices to be just that and would not make the fine distinctions you are making.

Steve once again uses the term “Whites” when he means white MEN.

White women are part of the coalition FFS!

They get the most Affirmative Action.

White men are targeted for removal. White women are as privileged as any minority group.

The obtuseness on this clear fact of reality by conservatives is fascinating and very telling.

I suppose it depends on what part of the elephant you are touching. Cahan was the driving force behind The Forward. I once saw a documentary about him and The Forward. At one time The Forward was one of the largest daily newspapers in NYC and Cahan modeled its day to day operations on that of American dailies where he had worked. Putting out a mass market paper that people will actually buy with their own money and in which advertisers will pay for advertising so that the whole thing is a going concern is no small task (Washington Post has just laid off another 250 people).

I doubt whether he had any idea about how the Vorwärts was produced. Certainly the Democratic Socialist political line and name of the paper were modeled after the German one but that was about it. Cahan and most of the readership were Lithuanian or Polish and not that connected to Germany.

Jews don’t like Christians because they (accurately) see Christians as weak, vacillating, controlled, dull-witted,conformist,milquetoast bores with no personality or individuality.

No, it’s been scrubbed from the Internet. I could post the lengthy essay, but I’ll just post the addendum, which was written by one of Yggdrasils’s readers, and explains why we get anti-Israel activism from the Left:

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Below is an exceptionally perceptive addition by a reader:

One interesting point in that movie also is the danger of bureaucracy lacking a selfcorrecting
mode, no matter how well one tries to instill one. The use of “Plan R” by a lower echelon commander is one obvious one. I was also struck watching that movie, the part where the Canadian (British) Air Force officer, Mandrake, is approached by an Army Major (Col.) Bat Guano, played by Keenan Wynn. While the bureaucrats at the top must stop Ripper’s bombers, and Mandrake is intent on stopping them as well, Major Guano, the quintessential warrior ant, has very specific and limited orders that don’t include talking to Group Captain Mandrake. He muddles about with how Gen. Ripper was shot, whether Capt. Mandrake was a “prevert”, going off on his own path without ever once getting close to doing what his masters require that he must to fulfill their intent. He’s another dangerous bureaucratic servant. Indeed, this movie has a lot of warrior ants going off in all directions without being clued in to the motivations of their masters. The bomber pilots show this in the best detail. Their orders received, whatever else happens, they can and will proceed to their targets whatever that means. They have orders in hand and the true necessities of those in Washington bear nothing on that.

Turgidson is another warrior ant, fully prepared to go full-bore into the nuclear crusaderegardless of his own interests. The intentions and necessities of the puppeteers do not and cannot impress upon him. What the IP is confronted with here is a very scary potential scenario. The bureaucratic machine that they rely on, that they think they control, is filled with intelligent people fully capable of acting in furtherance of the goals with which they’ve been presented and indoctrinated in. The fact that these are not the true goals of the people in control of them is a fact that they cannot be allowed to become aware of, and that disconnect makes potential for very dangerous mistakes. In other words, a common understanding and mutual goal that allows subordinate commanders to properly understand and act in accordance with the commander’s intent is lacking, and a move towards the commander’s goal resting on the actions and performance of subordinates will not survive a breakdown in communications created by the implicit disorder, uncertainty and fluidity of conflict. Since the IP cannot inform every bureaucrat in their system what their goal is, the system by definition is a clusterfuck, (a very precise and well understood military term) unable to know what it’s right and left hands are doing.