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The Democrats’ Coalition of the Margins just can’t stop themselves from clawing each other’s eyes out:

Fortunately, Spike Lee’s BlacKKKlansman is premiering this weekend to provide some more KKKrazy Glue to hold together the Democrats’ Coalition of the Fringes by offering an object of hate for Democrats everywhere to unite around: the KKK Menace.

A Sociologist Examines the “White Fragility” That Prevents White Americans from Confronting Racism

By Katy Waldman July 23, 2018

Much of Robin DiAngelo’s book is dedicated to pulling back the veil on so-called pillars of whiteness: assumptions that prop up racist beliefs without white people realizing it.

Author and diversity struggle session leader Robin DiAngelo looks rather like billionaire’s daughter Julia-Louis Dreyfus.

In more than twenty years of running diversity-training and cultural-competency workshops for American companies, the academic and educator Robin DiAngelo has noticed that white people are sensationally, histrionically bad at discussing racism.

In contrast to the usual white person, I am quite adept at rationally discussing all topics relating to race, having learned an enormous amount about the subject in the nearly three decades I’ve been writing professionally on the topic, and having arrived over my years of open-minded inquiry at objective, realistic, even-handed views. That’s why I’m constantly invited to lecture corporate America on what I’ve learned.

Oh, wait, actually, I was once asked to hold a discussion with a work group within a company. I replied, “Are you sure this won’t get you fired?”

Like waves on sand, their reactions form predictable patterns: they will insist that they “were taught to treat everyone the same,” that they are “color-blind,” that they “don’t care if you are pink, purple, or polka-dotted.” They will point to friends and family members of color, a history of civil-rights activism, or a more “salient” issue, such as class or gender. They will shout and bluster. They will cry. In 2011, DiAngelo coined the term “white fragility” to describe the disbelieving defensiveness that white people exhibit when their ideas about race and racism are challenged—and particularly when they feel implicated in white supremacy. Why, she wondered, did her feedback prompt such resistance, as if the mention of racism were more offensive than the fact or practice of it?

Maybe it has something to do with the extraordinary efficacy of charges of racism against individual whites being used to destroy the careers of even billionaires: e.g., Donald Sterling, the Papa John’s guy, etc. I imagine that if in 1692 in Salem, Ms. DiAngelo had been in the business of offering sermons on the Witch Menace, she would have similarly encountered “witch fragility” as various people objected to pleading guilty to “systemic whitchness” and then crying their “witch tears.”

In a new book, “White Fragility,” DiAngelo attempts to explicate the phenomenon of white people’s paper-thin skin. She argues that our largely segregated society is set up to insulate whites from racial discomfort,

Thank goodness that the future looks so much less insulated from discomfort! Think of all the struggle sessions we have to look forward to and the hefty retainers Ms. DiAngelo is anticipating from corporate clients.

so that they fall to pieces at the first application of stress—such as, for instance, when someone suggests that “flesh-toned” may not be an appropriate name for a beige crayon. Unused to unpleasantness (more than unused to it—racial hierarchies tell white people that they are entitled to peace and deference), they lack the “racial stamina” to engage in difficult conversations. This leads them to respond to “racial triggers”—the show “Dear White People,” the term “wypipo”—with “emotions such as anger, fear and guilt,” DiAngelo writes, “and behaviors such as argumentation, silence, and withdrawal from the stress-inducing situation.”

How dare white people use “argumentation.” Why won’t all of them respond to her harangues in a more appropriate fashion, such as by pulling out their checkbooks and signing up for more sessions with Ms. DiAngelo?

DiAngelo, who is white, emphasizes that the stances that make up white fragility are not merely irrational.

… Much of “White Fragility” is dedicated to pulling back the veil on these so-called pillars of whiteness: assumptions that prop up racist beliefs without our realizing it. Such ideologies include individualism, or the distinctly white-American dream that one writes one’s own destiny, and objectivity, the confidence that one can free oneself entirely from bias. As a sociologist trained in mapping group patterns, DiAngelo can’t help but regard both precepts as naïve (at best) and arrogant (at worst). To be perceived as an individual, to not be associated with anything negative because of your skin color, she notes, is a privilege largely afforded to white people; although most school shooters, domestic terrorists, and rapists in the United States are white, it is rare to see a white man on the street reduced to a stereotype. …

In DiAngelo’s almost epidemiological vision of white racism, our minds and bodies play host to a pathogen that seeks to replicate itself, sickening us in the process. Like a mutating virus, racism shape-shifts in order to stay alive; when its explicit expression becomes taboo, it hides in coded language. Nor does prejudice disappear when people decide that they will no longer tolerate it. It just looks for ways to avoid detection. “The most effective adaptation of racism over time,” DiAngelo claims, “is the idea that racism is conscious bias held by mean people.” This “good/bad binary,” positing a world of evil racists and compassionate non-racists, is itself a racist construct, eliding systemic injustice and imbuing racism with such shattering moral meaning that white people, especially progressives, cannot bear to face their collusion in it. (Pause on that, white reader. You may have subconsciously developed your strong negative feelings about racism in order to escape having to help dismantle it.)

The late anthropologist Henry Harpending recounted that one lesson he learned from his years of fieldwork with African tribes is that a major distinction between African belief’s in magic and curses vs. traditional European ones is the African belief in bad spells is much less based on intentionality. If an old lady in Sicily thinks she has been cursed with the evil eye, she usually has a list of suspects and reasons for why they would wish her ill.

In contrast, the belief system propagated by African witch doctors is reminiscent of woke academic thinking in its emphasis on systemic factors that work unconsciously at a distance to propagate curses. Whether by direct cultural transmission or by convergent cultural evolution, the most au courant Diversity Trainers in Current Year America sound much like traditional African witch doctors. Harpending

That evening [in Africa in the 1970s] we had something like a seminar with our employees and neighbors about witchcraft. Everyone except the Americans agreed that witchcraft was a terrible problem, that there was danger all around, and that it was vitally important to maintain amicable relations with others and to reject feelings of anger or jealousy in oneself. The way it works is like this: perhaps Greg falls and hurts himself, he knows it must be witchcraft, he discovers that I am seething with jealousy of his facility with words, so it was my witchcraft that made him fall. What is surprising is that I was completely unaware of having witched him so he bears me no ill will. I feel bad about his misfortune and do my best to get rid of my bad feelings because with them I am a danger to friends and family. Among Herero there is no such thing as an accident, there is no such thing as a natural death, witchcraft in some form is behind all of it. Did you have a gastrointestinal upset this morning? Clearly someone slipped some pink potion in the milk. Except for a few atheists there was no disagreement about this. Emotions get projected over vast distances so beware.

Even more interesting to us was the universal understanding that white people were not vulnerable to witchcraft and could neither feel it nor understand it. White people literally lack a crucial sense, or part of the brain. An upside, I was told, was that we did not face the dangers that locals faced. On the other hand our bad feelings could be projected so as good citizens we had to monitor carefully our own “hearts”. …

A colleague pointed out a few weeks ago, after hearing this story, that if it is nearly pan-African then perhaps some of it came to the New World. Prominent and not so prominent talkers from the American Black population come out with similar theories of vague and invisible forces that are oppressing people, like “institutional racism” and “white privilege”.

Back to The New Yorker:

… Unpacking the fantasy of black men as dangerous and violent, she does not simply fact-check it; she shows the myth’s usefulness to white people—to obscure the historical brutality against African-Americans, and to justify continued abuse.

DiAngelo sometimes adopts a soothing, conciliatory tone toward white readers, as if she were appeasing a child on the verge of a tantrum. “If your definition of a racist is someone who holds conscious dislike of people because of race, then I agree that it is offensive for me to suggest that you are racist when I don’t know you,” she writes. “I also agree that if this is your definition of racism, and you are against racism, then you are not racist. Now breathe. I am not using this definition of racism, and I am not saying that you are immoral. If you can remain open as I lay out my argument, it should soon begin to make sense.”

… Yet the point of the book is that each white person believes herself the exception, one of very few souls magically exempt from a lifetime of racist conditioning.

See, if you are skeptical of “systemic racism” and “white privilege” and the like, you are the one guilty of magical thinking.

… DiAngelo sets aside a whole chapter for the self-indulgent tears of white women, so distraught at the country’s legacy of racist terrorism that they force people of color to drink from the firehose of their feelings about it.

… For all the paranoid American theories of being “red-pilled,” of awakening into a many-tentacled liberal/feminist/Jewish conspiracy, the most corrosive force, the ectoplasm infusing itself invisibly through media and culture and politics, is white supremacy.

Whiteness is black magic.

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  1. Becky thrown under the bus.

    • Replies: @Anonym
    @Daniel H

    While white women are as big as Mex + Black in terms of numbers... how many are single? That's really the Dem bloc. But they lose SWW at their peril.

    , @JimB
    @Daniel H

    Uh, in this case Becky seems to be driving the bus.

  2. Yep, the catfighting reference is pretty appropriate. The lady is tweeting that people should not be subject to that one chapter of a book. It’s Robin DiAnglos’s (who I’ve never heard of) book, and you don’t have to read it. You wouldn’t have to hear about it even, as most people haven’t, if you didn’t work for the leading cultural standard-bearer of NY City, The New Yorker.

    Have any of these people ever heard the famous NY’er phrase, “Nobody’s got a gun to your head”?!

  3. Steve, you missed the best part of the article:

    To be perceived as an individual, to not be associated with anything negative because of your skin color, she notes, is a privilege largely afforded to white people; although most school shooters, domestic terrorists, and rapists in the United States are white,

    Haven Monahan strikes again!

    • Replies: @syonredux
    @Mr. Blank


    To be perceived as an individual, to not be associated with anything negative because of your skin color, she notes, is a privilege largely afforded to white people; although most school shooters, domestic terrorists, and rapists in the United States are white,
     
    Someone doesn't understand statistics....

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Anonymous

    , @Stan d Mute
    @Mr. Blank


    Haven Monahan strikes again!
     
    That’s a real conundrum isn’t it? Since white men rape almost exclusively Beckies, virtually never “womyn of color,” are white rapists still bad? It works out great for the tens of thousands of cases per annum where colored men rape Beckies, but how about when colored men rape “womyn of color?” We never hear about this in the news, apparently “womyn of color” just aren’t getting raped at all (is that why Sarah Jeong is so angry?). Or is the evil racist white priveleged media refusing to tell us about the #metoo epidemic in Detroit?

    The NYT needs to clarify this small matter so we can all think correctly.

    Replies: @Rosie

    , @Sammler
    @Mr. Blank

    I love the weasel word “domestic” before “terrorists”.

    , @TomSchmidt
    @Mr. Blank

    One wonders if she considers prison rape in the statistics?

  4. OT a bit,

    Bret Stephens performs his usual ritual cuck at the Times, defending the honor of Sarah Jeong:

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/09/opinion/sarah-jeong-tweets-opinion-section.html

    What’s interesting is the overwhelming number of comments critical of the column and the Times in the Readers’ Picks.

    When you’ve lost the readership of the Times…

    • Replies: @Cagey Beast
    @candid_observer

    When you’ve lost the readership of the Times…

    Yes, the Times readers' comments have been consistently revolting for years. Kevin Williamson's belief that Whites in flyover country should simply die off had already been expressed repeatedly in the Times comments section, many years before he got in trouble for it.

    , @Charles Erwin Wilson
    @candid_observer

    Is anyone worthy of more opprobrium than Bret Stephens ? Even David Brooks, who has earned the contempt of all within earshot or visual identification, seems slightly less odious.

    Neither belong in America.

    Replies: @Ghost of Bull Moose

    , @RonaldB
    @candid_observer

    Actually the Bret Stevens column seems well researched and reasonable, whether you agree with his conclusion that Sarah Jeong is a net asset to the NYT or not.

    Back to topic, though, imagine the witch Robin DiAngelo giving a "racism" seminar, using her load of cant and smoke to harass line workers, whose main sin was to actually produce something of value rather than write or read volumes of post-modern, non-logical cultural Marxist doggerel.

    Replies: @JerseyJeffersonian

    , @stillCARealist
    @candid_observer

    Apparently I've reached the limit of my free NYT articles, which is weird because I intentionally never click there. I only tried this time to see the comments you talked about.

    Today is going to be a good day.

    , @Frau Katze
    @candid_observer

    Bret Stephens’ hope was that by leaving WSJ for NYT, he could avoid nasty comments from Trump-supporting readers.

    I’ve read through the comments on several of columns. His first column, on his skeptic take on human-caused climate change, generated floods of angry comments.

    I can’t see the old WSJ Stephens supporting Sarah Jeong.

    He must be getting desperate to find readers somewhere somehow who appreciate him.

    But even with the column on Jeong, there was no shortage of negative comments, including at least one who was cancelling his/her subscription.

    Replies: @Eagle Eye

  5. Robin J. DiAngelo (born September 8, 1956)[1] is an American academic, lecturer, and author working in the fields of critical discourse analysis and whiteness studies. She is a part-time lecturer at the University of Washington, and formerly served as a tenured professor of multicultural education at Westfield State University. She is known for her work pertaining to white fragility, a term which she coined in 2011.

    DiAngelo received her Ph.D. in multicultural education from the University of Washington in 2004, with a dissertation entitled “Whiteness in racial dialogue: a discourse analysis”.[2]

    Her Ph.D. committee was chaired by James A. Banks.[3] In 2007, she joined the faculty of Westfield State University,[4] where she was named a tenured professor of multicultural education in 2014. She later resigned from her position at Westfield.[3] She has since become a part-time lecturer at the University of Washington’s School of Social Work,[5] from which she has received two Student’s Choice Awards for Educator of the Year.[6] In addition to teaching classes, she frequently gives seminars discussing racism, which she argues is embedded throughout America’s political systems and culture.[7] As of February 2017, she was also the director of Equity for Sound Generations in Seattle, Washington.

    DiAngelo is known for her work regarding “white fragility”, a term she coined in a 2011 peer-reviewed paper.[9][10][11] She has defined the concept of white fragility as “a state in which even a minimum amount of racial stress becomes intolerable, triggering a range of defensive moves.” As of 2016, she regularly gives workshops on the topic.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robin_DiAngelo

    • Replies: @Cagey Beast
    @syonredux

    I wish these women were forced to wear a hat or necklace to tell all the White people she encounters what she thinks of them. Do the Whites she rubs shoulders with out there in Washington state know she makes a living training cultural saboteurs? When she gets her kitchen renovated, goes to the farmers' market or goes antiquing, do the little Whites know she hates them? Talk about White privilege.

    Replies: @Iberiano

    , @Achmed E. Newman
    @syonredux


    She is known for her work pertaining to white fragility, a term which she coined in 2011.
     
    She coined a term. Don't that beat all. Once you've coined a term you're a made man, or women, as the case may be. No need for a tenure committee and all that.

    Replies: @Buck Turgidson

    , @Ghost of Bull Moose
    @syonredux

    "… Unpacking the fantasy of black men as dangerous and violent, she does not simply fact-check it..."

    Now that I believe.

    Replies: @Forbes

    , @Luke Lea
    @syonredux

    She looks fragile, that's for sure.

    , @Cato
    @syonredux

    She's over 60. So it's an old picture, or a lot of help from cosmetics and an airbrush. She can't be what she is, and she doesn't want you to be what you are either.

    Replies: @Forbes

    , @Charles Erwin Wilson
    @syonredux

    Nope. She isn't even a double-bagger. And yes, I'd chew my arm off. And no, even if she were the last hope for humanity. Nope and nope.

    There are some things that are too much to ask, even if they entail the saving of the species.

    , @Iberiano
    @syonredux

    It's all "heads you lose, tails I win" stuff anyhow. If (and when) whites do speak about race, openly, brazenly, and in the case of defending whites, unapologetically, we then get called racist anyway.

    The actually point is to keep us in a state of discomfort, in that sense "fragile". Never sure if our polite refrain from discussion will signal that we don't care, or are not engaged, or on the other hand, our active engagement with some black or brown will lead to more than just being called a "racist" but instead, sensitivity training, or even firing.

    The entire current century framework is created and maintained to keep whites in a state of fear. She is simply adding to the body of work.

    , @Frau Katze
    @syonredux

    DiAngelo has made being anti-white her whole career. Just another person living off “diversity”.

    , @TomSchmidt
    @syonredux

    In 2007, she joined the faculty of Westfield State University,[4] where she was named a tenured professor of multicultural education in 2014. She later resigned from her position at Westfield.

    NO one resigns from a tenured position to do the sort of ad-hoc work that DiAngelo does. Westfield State is a mostly white working class campus. What's the betting she resigned rather than be fired for violating some school rule, or foroppressing students?

    Replies: @Fabian Forge, @Alden

  6. I also liked how the article blandly throws out this bit about

    these so-called pillars of whiteness: assumptions that prop up racist beliefs without our realizing it. Such ideologies include individualism, or the distinctly white-American dream that one writes one’s own destiny, and objectivity, the confidence that one can free oneself entirely from bias.

    “Individualism” and “objectivity” are honky “ideologies.” Of course, the opposite of an individual who thinks objectively is a raging mob. So that’s…what we should strive for? Huh?

    I wonder if these people ever bother to really think about this crap, or if they just string trendy words together to come up with new ways of explaining “white = bad.” It reminds me of Theodore Dalrymple’s explanation of the purpose of propaganda.

    • Agree: Mr. Rational
    • Replies: @jJay
    @Mr. Blank

    Mr. Blank,


    Individualism regards man—every man—as an independent, sovereign entity who possesses an inalienable right to his own life, a right derived from his nature as a rational being. Individualism holds that a civilized society, or any form of association, cooperation or peaceful coexistence among men, can be achieved only on the basis of the recognition of individual rights—and that a group, as such, has no rights other than the individual rights of its members.
     
    Written by another homely woman. Ayn Rand is among the grateful dead.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

    , @RonaldB
    @Mr. Blank

    From personal experience with a member of a feminist, academic coven, (and I use the word very knowingly), I can say that basic leftist assumptions are never, ever critiqued, or even discussed. If you want to see real "fragility", try using economic or race-realist logic on a leftist.

    Replies: @Anon

    , @slumber_j
    @Mr. Blank


    As a sociologist trained in mapping group patterns, DiAngelo can’t help but regard both precepts as naïve (at best) and arrogant (at worst).
     
    No. If DiAngelo is a sociologist, she must regard both precepts as phenomena. It's in some other capacity that she starts ascribing negative qualities to them.

    So that's bullshit.

    , @Anon
    @Mr. Blank

    "I wonder if these people ever bother to really think about this crap, or if they just string trendy words together to come up with new ways of explaining “white = bad.” "

    Right, but even that is too "intentional". Notice how "argumentation" is racist too? See, they only string words together in an endless stream, each one "good" and PC, and the purpose, such as it is, is to virtue signal their goodthinking. Blah blah blah whiteness blah blah intersectionality etc.

    This what all prog academic writing or political speech is. Orwell called it "duckspeaking".

    , @TomSchmidt
    @Mr. Blank

    Of course, the opposite of an individual who thinks objectively is a raging mob. So that’s…what we should strive for? Huh?

    The German Männer Sippe is not a raging mob, but an example of a voluntary group that preserves society. The stopped clock Professor is right this time: individualism is a toxic white ideology that will kill any people that attempts it in the face of other united groups.

    It is exactly what we will wind up with, if perhaps not strive for, if European Americans are to survive. As wise Lee Kwan Yew wrote... well, look it up.

    Replies: @Anon

    , @Rosamond Vincy
    @Mr. Blank

    Well if you can't free yourself entirely from bias, why try? Might as well join Aryan Nations and get it over with. As well be hanged for a sheep as a lamb.

  7. @Mr. Blank
    Steve, you missed the best part of the article:

    To be perceived as an individual, to not be associated with anything negative because of your skin color, she notes, is a privilege largely afforded to white people; although most school shooters, domestic terrorists, and rapists in the United States are white,
     
    Haven Monahan strikes again!

    Replies: @syonredux, @Stan d Mute, @Sammler, @TomSchmidt

    To be perceived as an individual, to not be associated with anything negative because of your skin color, she notes, is a privilege largely afforded to white people; although most school shooters, domestic terrorists, and rapists in the United States are white,

    Someone doesn’t understand statistics….

    • Agree: Mr. Rational
    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @syonredux

    Are most school shooters white? It's not white schools that have metal detectors at entrances.

    Replies: @International Jew, @peterike

    , @Anonymous
    @syonredux

    The phrase "per capita" is so totally racist that I can't even.

  8. @Mr. Blank
    Steve, you missed the best part of the article:

    To be perceived as an individual, to not be associated with anything negative because of your skin color, she notes, is a privilege largely afforded to white people; although most school shooters, domestic terrorists, and rapists in the United States are white,
     
    Haven Monahan strikes again!

    Replies: @syonredux, @Stan d Mute, @Sammler, @TomSchmidt

    Haven Monahan strikes again!

    That’s a real conundrum isn’t it? Since white men rape almost exclusively Beckies, virtually never “womyn of color,” are white rapists still bad? It works out great for the tens of thousands of cases per annum where colored men rape Beckies, but how about when colored men rape “womyn of color?” We never hear about this in the news, apparently “womyn of color” just aren’t getting raped at all (is that why Sarah Jeong is so angry?). Or is the evil racist white priveleged media refusing to tell us about the #metoo epidemic in Detroit?

    The NYT needs to clarify this small matter so we can all think correctly.

    • Replies: @Rosie
    @Stan d Mute


    Since white men rape almost exclusively Beckies,
     
    And that not very often.
  9. Let’s face it, white female tears turn them on. They may hate white men but white women they hold in contempt. It’s safe to say the male half of the Coalition of the Resentful harbors half-concealed white rape fantasies and the non-white female half is at least semi-aware of it.

    Anyway, I love stuff like this and hope we see more and more of it. I know of no other way to wake white women up. Somebody needs to explain to them just how weak and coddled everybody thinks they are.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Song For the Deaf

    I think their contempt for white women far exceeds their dislike of white men. When they go after a white man it's usually because they believe he's killed a black male for no good reason; now they're targeting white women for being bitchy. Even the term "Becky" kind of gives it away: the archetypal white woman here is a spoiled, pampered, entitled Valley Girl cliche. You can't not hate somebody like that. And remember that a high percentage of the white women a typical urban black encounters will somewhat live up to that stereotype; there aren't a lot of blue-collar white females in Chicago or NYC anymore.

    As far as "waking" white women up, the proletarians and flyover state den mothers are already as woke as they're likely to get. For the Sex and the City re-enactors, SWPLs and blue-state progressives nothing short of a literal gun to the head is likely to prompt any sort of reflection.

    , @RonaldB
    @Song For the Deaf

    This is the Leninist thinking: "things have to get worse in order to get better". I'm not accusing you of being sympathetic to Lenin, but would like to submit that a long-suffering, docile population is going to stay docile and suffering. Making things worse will just make things worse. What you really have to do is teach the power of individual thought, integrity and responsibility. It's OK to be an unconsciously-complicit racist because your black "victims" are the ones who choose either victimhood or self-reliance.

    Now, for sure, some of the blacks start life with a pretty bad deck: no father present, mother unemployed and on welfare, no self-sufficient males in sight, and only gang members for shared values, plus a low-IQ and inability to delay gratification. So, there is a certain truth to the "white privilege" fantasy, but the real villain is not microscopic racism, but the dissolution of the black community. I do feel that my comfortable circumstances are due far more to circumstances I was born into or born with than my own personal efforts, but unfortunately, the differences between myself and, say, the black gang member, cannot be resolved bringing down whites and guilt-bombing them. but by sensible measures such as ending welfare, intense and severe policing of black areas, ending social services and ending support of out-of-work, out-of-luck unmarried mothers.

  10. It all makes one realize, ‘thank God Trump won.’

    Of course he’s unsatisfactory, and it may be too late anyway — but think where we’d be if he had lost.

    • Agree: MBlanc46
    • Replies: @Cagey Beast
    @Colin Wright

    Exactly. Hillary Clinton would have slipped smoothly into the Washington machine and started pumping out the anti-White man stuff every single day. Every single day, worldwide, forever.

    Replies: @Colin Wright, @Anonymous

    , @dfordoom
    @Colin Wright


    It all makes one realize, ‘thank God Trump won.’

    Of course he’s unsatisfactory, and it may be too late anyway — but think where we’d be if he had lost.
     
    Think where you'll be when the Democrats retake the White House. They'll be settling scores. The gloves will be off. They're going to want revenge.

    You might find yourself remembering the good old days of the Obama presidency, when being white or heterosexual hadn't yet been made illegal.
  11. I thought it was more of a fire hose enema.

    • LOL: Mr. Rational
  12. Would love to hear her opinions on Jewish and black fragility, or even female fragility, as if whites were the only people who don’t like being criticized on account of their race.

    • Replies: @CCZ
    @Song For the Deaf

    But, like the new, improved, and enhanced definition of racism as practiced only by those who have power and privilege, ("blacks can't be racists because they are not the oppressor"), neither blacks, Jews, nor females (except when they act white) hold any "power" or "privilege" and, therefore, can not be "defensive" or "fragile" about something that they do not have.

    Although this story about a pair of homosexual males and a pair of black females fighting for control of an urban neighborhood association and affiliated community garden (and resorting to actual violence and a "Molotov cocktail"!!) seems to show some "fragility" when representatives of two of the "oppressed" groups challenge each other for power. Let's see who ultimately wins this contest, homosexuals or blacks.

    "How a feud over a community garden turned violent and 'bizarre'."

    https://www.nj.com/hudson/index.ssf/2018/08/astor_place_neighborhood_dispute_story.html#incart_m-rpt-2

    Replies: @Jus' Sayin'..., @Anon, @Frau Katze

  13. @candid_observer
    OT a bit,

    Bret Stephens performs his usual ritual cuck at the Times, defending the honor of Sarah Jeong:

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/09/opinion/sarah-jeong-tweets-opinion-section.html

    What's interesting is the overwhelming number of comments critical of the column and the Times in the Readers' Picks.

    When you've lost the readership of the Times...

    Replies: @Cagey Beast, @Charles Erwin Wilson, @RonaldB, @stillCARealist, @Frau Katze

    When you’ve lost the readership of the Times…

    Yes, the Times readers’ comments have been consistently revolting for years. Kevin Williamson’s belief that Whites in flyover country should simply die off had already been expressed repeatedly in the Times comments section, many years before he got in trouble for it.

  14. I can only assume unmarried white women love this shit.

  15. Ms. Banks would appear to be ‘black’ — ala Kamala Harris, et al, et al. She’s one of those dreadful octoroons who do so much to make life worse for everybody.

    Someday, we are going to have to quit pretending this nonsense isn’t happening. What we’re going to do instead I genuinely don’t know, but this shit is getting out of hand.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Colin Wright

    The New Yorker says she's white.

    From the photo she uses, it could go either way. Maybe she never claims not to be white, but she Rachel Dolezalizes her hair to dupe naive white clients into thinking maybe she's 1/8th black?

    Replies: @Veracitor, @Cagey Beast, @Colin Wright

  16. Anon[425] • Disclaimer says:

    https://robindiangelo.com/about-me/

    She majored in what?

    I earned tenure at Westfield State University and I have taught courses in Multicultural Teaching, Inter-group Dialogue Facilitation, Cultural Diversity & Social Justice, and Anti-Racist Education.

    Those are dogmas and agendas, not subjects or fields of study.

    My area of research is in Whiteness Studies and Critical Discourse Analysis, explicating how Whiteness is reproduced in everyday narratives.

    Whiteness Studies. LOL. Whiteness studies 1o1: Whitey is ‘racist’. Whiteness studies 202: Whitey is privilege. Whiteness studies 303: Whitey is supremacy. Whiteness studies Ph.D: Whitey is Disease. Sounds like Hate Studies.

    Okay, so whiteness is like a disease to be diagnosed and cure.

    Whiteprivilegitis. Whitefragilitis. Whitesupremitis.

    And the cure? Lotsofsomalitis? Great cure for Minnesota and Ohio.

    In the past, they used to bleed patients. It often led to killing them.

    Now, whites are diagnosed of whiteness as a disease, and they can be cured with Diversity Treatment. Funny how the White Disease only gets worse. More Diversity only leads to more ‘medical’ war on Whiteness.

    But where has Diversity made a white nation better? If anything, non-whites seem to be fleeing from their own kind as a Disease and moving to Whiteness as the Cure.

    This Diagnosis of Whiteness as Disease is no longer like Nazi Antisemitism. It is the same thing. No wonder idiots like Jeong ended up the way they did.

    Social sciences produce Witch Doctors.

    Still, there is some truth to the problem of White Fragility. We see it with Germans esp in relation to WWII. Now, Germans being mindful of what happened and remembering the horror is a good and decent. But so many Germans like to put on this “I’m so sorry, boo hoo act, please forgive me for what is unforgivable, I love Jews, I hate my own kind” BS. I’ve heard from many people about meeting Germans who put on this shtick. Spare us the ‘me so sorry’ spectacle.

    As for Jews, they use media and academia to rob whites of pride, identity, and heritage. Whites are left feeling sorry, fragile, and anxious naturally. But then, whites are attacked for being fragile too.
    Sheesh.

    • Agree: Mr. Rational
    • Replies: @Hubbub
    @Anon

    I wish to announce a new 'whiteness' term that I've just come up with while reading about this Banks woman - White Forbearance. It relates to my studies as to why white people continue to put up with this type of nonsense, pretend to take meaning from it, and then go on merrily with life while the sages of the media take it so seriously. No, it's my term, you can't have it, but I have classes springing up all across the country in community colleges, universities and cooperate board rooms - there is a place for you. So sign up now - it will change your life, if you have one,

  17. I’m glad this is in the New Yorker. I hope they ruin all their brand names.

  18. From the History vs. Hollywood recap on BlacKKKlansman:

    Though the nine month operation yielded no arrests, it was considered a success.“As a result of our combined effort, no parent of a black or other minority child had to explain why an 18-foot cross was seen burning,” he wrote in his book. “No child in the city limits had to experience firsthand the fear brought on by this act of terror.”

    Stallworth claims they talked about stealing automatic weapons from Fort Carson and bombing gay bars but nothing rose to level where they could make an arrest? Without question this is the most important criminal investigation in the history of the state of Colorado, if not the entire country.

    http://www.historyvshollywood.com/reelfaces/blackkklansman/

  19. If you want a picture of the future, imagine this woman shouting in your face- forever:

    https://www.facebook.com/judgeofcharacters/videos/196855937636870/

    • LOL: Luke Lea
    • Replies: @Hockamaw
    @Ghost of Bull Moose

    I wish I hadn't watched a minute of that video. How revolting.

  20. @syonredux
    @Mr. Blank


    To be perceived as an individual, to not be associated with anything negative because of your skin color, she notes, is a privilege largely afforded to white people; although most school shooters, domestic terrorists, and rapists in the United States are white,
     
    Someone doesn't understand statistics....

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Anonymous

    Are most school shooters white? It’s not white schools that have metal detectors at entrances.

    • Agree: Mr. Rational
    • Replies: @International Jew
    @Anonymous


    Are most school shooters white?
     
    Maybe if you count shootings inside the school. Maybe. But definitely not if you also count shootings just outside the school -- on the lawn, in the parking lot, outside the entrances.
    , @peterike
    @Anonymous

    “Are most school shooters white? It’s not white schools that have metal detectors at entrances.”

    There’s a difference between “school shootings” and “shootings in or just outside of school.”

    The first is rare, usually non-black, and gets massive media coverage. The second is routine, nearly always black or Hispanic, and is completely ignored.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Pericles

  21. So I read the article. The women’s entire life’s work depends on white people being afraid to public ally admit they are self-interested. All you would have to do to demolish her entire thesis is being unashamedly, tribally self-interested. She would have nothing to say to that.

    • Agree: Rosie, Mr. Rational
    • Replies: @Forbes
    @Song For the Deaf


    All you would have to do to demolish her entire thesis is being unashamedly, tribally self-interested.
     
    Agreed. It's pretty much how I feel and act.

    But this is exactly what the Celebrate Multiculturalism SJW brigade is all about defeating--that you MUST endorse "the other" before your own, your own spouse, your own children, your family, your relatives, etc. Their project is puerile.
    , @Hunsdon
    @Song For the Deaf

    I think you're overlooking all the pointing and shrieking she'd be doing.

  22. @Colin Wright
    It all makes one realize, 'thank God Trump won.'

    Of course he's unsatisfactory, and it may be too late anyway -- but think where we'd be if he had lost.

    Replies: @Cagey Beast, @dfordoom

    Exactly. Hillary Clinton would have slipped smoothly into the Washington machine and started pumping out the anti-White man stuff every single day. Every single day, worldwide, forever.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
    @Cagey Beast

    '...the anti-White man stuff every single day...'

    The weird thing is why are we getting this poisonous, useless, utterly false stuff at all? What conceivable good or even truth could come of it?

    It's like everyone's earnestly recommending drinking a cup of hot bleach first thing every morning. I just don't see the up side. Even if, as an abstract proposition, someone had an authentic grievance, how is this supposed to address it?

    Replies: @dfordoom, @CCZ, @Anonymous, @Paco Wové

    , @Anonymous
    @Cagey Beast

    And it would have the force of law, and be insinuated even more thoroughly into every nook and cranny of our society. All that's happened is that it's been slowed down a tiny bit. Meanwhile new Democrats are still pouring over the borders, what's left of them.

  23. Is Ta-Nehisi Coates’ famous escalator story an example of black fragility?

    • Replies: @CCZ
    @Anonymous

    Who is the “fragile” one here?


    Marblehead [MA] residents discuss white fragility at Abbot Library. (June 21, 2017)

    “...36 people gathered at the Abbot Library to have an open conversation about implicit bias and white fragility in the second installment of the Marblehead Racial Justice Team's "Conversations on Race," discussion series.”

    “Team member Nikki Moore gave an example to illustrate white fragility, which is "a state in which even a minimum amount of racial stress becomes intolerable, triggering a range of defensive moves," according to Dr. Robin DiAngelo.”

    “Moore gave a scenario in which she walks through Abbot Hall and tells her white friend that the pictures of white men make her uncomfortable. The friend might react defensively, saying things like, "I didn't do that" or "my ancestors weren't slave masters."
     
    “pictures of white men [in a library] make her uncomfortable.” Who is the truly fragile one in this example?

    Replies: @Anna Pavlova

  24. While nowhere near is insidious white women do there fair share of evil

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2018/08/09/laura-ingrahams-demographic-changes-monologue-is-rallying-cry-trumps-base/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.713b07f82f08

    I think everyone needs to acknowledge all of us whites have biases & prejudices . Feeling guilty is a good thing . Hopefully it encourages us self reflect and work at overcoming these . The issue I have with Trump , he encourages these prejudices to not only thrive but propagate

    • Replies: @MikeatMikedotMike
    @Tiny Duck

    TD,

    DiAngelo is yearning for the right man to boink the white right out her. Is your Tiny Duck up to the challenge?

    , @Rosamond Vincy
    @Tiny Duck

    What is up with your punctuation? Kern, baby, Kern!

  25. @Daniel H
    Becky thrown under the bus.

    Replies: @Anonym, @JimB

    While white women are as big as Mex + Black in terms of numbers… how many are single? That’s really the Dem bloc. But they lose SWW at their peril.

  26. @syonredux

    Robin J. DiAngelo (born September 8, 1956)[1] is an American academic, lecturer, and author working in the fields of critical discourse analysis and whiteness studies. She is a part-time lecturer at the University of Washington, and formerly served as a tenured professor of multicultural education at Westfield State University. She is known for her work pertaining to white fragility, a term which she coined in 2011.
     

    DiAngelo received her Ph.D. in multicultural education from the University of Washington in 2004, with a dissertation entitled "Whiteness in racial dialogue: a discourse analysis".[2]
     

    Her Ph.D. committee was chaired by James A. Banks.[3] In 2007, she joined the faculty of Westfield State University,[4] where she was named a tenured professor of multicultural education in 2014. She later resigned from her position at Westfield.[3] She has since become a part-time lecturer at the University of Washington's School of Social Work,[5] from which she has received two Student’s Choice Awards for Educator of the Year.[6] In addition to teaching classes, she frequently gives seminars discussing racism, which she argues is embedded throughout America's political systems and culture.[7] As of February 2017, she was also the director of Equity for Sound Generations in Seattle, Washington.
     

    DiAngelo is known for her work regarding "white fragility", a term she coined in a 2011 peer-reviewed paper.[9][10][11] She has defined the concept of white fragility as "a state in which even a minimum amount of racial stress becomes intolerable, triggering a range of defensive moves." As of 2016, she regularly gives workshops on the topic.

     

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robin_DiAngelo




    https://westerntoday.wwu.edu/files/FavRe.jpeg

    Replies: @Cagey Beast, @Achmed E. Newman, @Ghost of Bull Moose, @Luke Lea, @Cato, @Charles Erwin Wilson, @Iberiano, @Frau Katze, @TomSchmidt

    I wish these women were forced to wear a hat or necklace to tell all the White people she encounters what she thinks of them. Do the Whites she rubs shoulders with out there in Washington state know she makes a living training cultural saboteurs? When she gets her kitchen renovated, goes to the farmers’ market or goes antiquing, do the little Whites know she hates them? Talk about White privilege.

    • Agree: Mr. Rational
    • Replies: @Iberiano
    @Cagey Beast

    Typically dyed hair (green, blue, pink, ugly red) is an indicator. Although, upper class anti-white white women rarely do so.

    While your question is a good one, I think the reality is, the author hates that she has to live in the same bubble she is complaining about. As we all have seen over the last few decades, much of this is a self-disclosed Rorschach test. She doesn't really hate white people--although obviously that doesn't matter given her work product--she is projecting.

  27. @syonredux

    Robin J. DiAngelo (born September 8, 1956)[1] is an American academic, lecturer, and author working in the fields of critical discourse analysis and whiteness studies. She is a part-time lecturer at the University of Washington, and formerly served as a tenured professor of multicultural education at Westfield State University. She is known for her work pertaining to white fragility, a term which she coined in 2011.
     

    DiAngelo received her Ph.D. in multicultural education from the University of Washington in 2004, with a dissertation entitled "Whiteness in racial dialogue: a discourse analysis".[2]
     

    Her Ph.D. committee was chaired by James A. Banks.[3] In 2007, she joined the faculty of Westfield State University,[4] where she was named a tenured professor of multicultural education in 2014. She later resigned from her position at Westfield.[3] She has since become a part-time lecturer at the University of Washington's School of Social Work,[5] from which she has received two Student’s Choice Awards for Educator of the Year.[6] In addition to teaching classes, she frequently gives seminars discussing racism, which she argues is embedded throughout America's political systems and culture.[7] As of February 2017, she was also the director of Equity for Sound Generations in Seattle, Washington.
     

    DiAngelo is known for her work regarding "white fragility", a term she coined in a 2011 peer-reviewed paper.[9][10][11] She has defined the concept of white fragility as "a state in which even a minimum amount of racial stress becomes intolerable, triggering a range of defensive moves." As of 2016, she regularly gives workshops on the topic.

     

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robin_DiAngelo




    https://westerntoday.wwu.edu/files/FavRe.jpeg

    Replies: @Cagey Beast, @Achmed E. Newman, @Ghost of Bull Moose, @Luke Lea, @Cato, @Charles Erwin Wilson, @Iberiano, @Frau Katze, @TomSchmidt

    She is known for her work pertaining to white fragility, a term which she coined in 2011.

    She coined a term. Don’t that beat all. Once you’ve coined a term you’re a made man, or women, as the case may be. No need for a tenure committee and all that.

    • Replies: @Buck Turgidson
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Buck Turgidson is known for his thinking on black fragility, a term he coined in 2018 while reading Steves website one day.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

  28. BTW, Steve, great alliteration!

  29. @Song For the Deaf
    Would love to hear her opinions on Jewish and black fragility, or even female fragility, as if whites were the only people who don’t like being criticized on account of their race.

    Replies: @CCZ

    But, like the new, improved, and enhanced definition of racism as practiced only by those who have power and privilege, (“blacks can’t be racists because they are not the oppressor”), neither blacks, Jews, nor females (except when they act white) hold any “power” or “privilege” and, therefore, can not be “defensive” or “fragile” about something that they do not have.

    Although this story about a pair of homosexual males and a pair of black females fighting for control of an urban neighborhood association and affiliated community garden (and resorting to actual violence and a “Molotov cocktail”!!) seems to show some “fragility” when representatives of two of the “oppressed” groups challenge each other for power. Let’s see who ultimately wins this contest, homosexuals or blacks.

    “How a feud over a community garden turned violent and ‘bizarre’.”

    https://www.nj.com/hudson/index.ssf/2018/08/astor_place_neighborhood_dispute_story.html#incart_m-rpt-2

    • LOL: YetAnotherAnon
    • Replies: @Jus' Sayin'...
    @CCZ


    "...The men told The Jersey Journal they initially sparred with Tinia Bland over the neighborhood association, saying she runs it without input from much of the community and elects herself president without holding elections...."
     
    Clearly these privileged members of the coalition of the fringes's homosexual wing don't understand the political superiority of the Negro "big man" system of governance. The imposition of "big man" political systems is just one of the blessings which our increasingly diverse culture will ultimately provide.
    , @Anon
    @CCZ

    Forget "The Homo & The Negro," now it's Homo VS Negro.

    , @Frau Katze
    @CCZ

    The KKKrazy Glue came unstuck!

  30. Di Angelo’s work is good for the cause of truth and justice and should be encouraged and applauded.

    Di Angelo’s critique ignores prole whites – they are beneath notice and contempt, most likely – and targets liberal SWPL whites. She asserts that they are hopelessly entangled in racism and will remain so as long as the status quo endures, a status quo that SWPL whites actually like and want to preserve because it grants them prestige, wealth and status. Because of SWPL’s commitment to the status quo she says that are not only complicit in racism but are racist themselves. I have used this same rhetoric agains SWPLs in personal interaction and it drives them bananas. They will not engage further once this accusation is thrown at them and will ignore me, shut me down. Well, I’m just a prole bullshitter, easy to ignore but it will be harder to ignore those charges when leveled by more and more of their own kind.

    A general racism critique leveled at SWPL liberals doesn’t just drive them to distraction it hurts them to the bone. They become defensive, overwrought, angry, and eventually resentful, bitter and vengeful, and, as a result, more than a few of them will pull the lever – in secret – for Donald Trump in 2020. Keep it up Ms. Di Angelo, you are doing good work.

    • Replies: @Square Wheeled Hot Rod
    @Daniel H

    Maybe she will make a few SWPL women uneasy, but I doubt that it will be catching. You have to remember that progressive whites thrive on guilt. It races through their veins and makes them high. What better lapel button to signal their virtue than feeling shame for breathing oxygen that some person of color has been denied because of systematic white oxygenism?

    I hope for her sake that Miz Di Angelo isn't outed as being less than 100 percent white. (Looks possible from her mug shot.) If one of her ancestors had a brush with negritude even a few generations back, it would hinder her speaking power to truth -- she'd be arguing for her own people rather than selflessly advocating for the Victim Class.

  31. OT but closely related:

    Christie Blatchford: Another problem for the (male) homeless: their hypermasculinity
    As if the homeless didn’t have enough going against them, now, it turns out, the bastards engage in ‘compensatory masculinity,’ according to new research
    https://nationalpost.com/opinion/christie-blatchford-another-problem-for-the-male-homeless-their-hypermasculinity

    Nice White Lady academics may literally be the death of us. They may literally make it on the short list of reasons why western civilisation collapsed. The list will have to be compiled by a Russian or Chinese professor though because we’ll be gone. In a way, we will have deserved to go extinct.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Cagey Beast

    To be clear, Christie Blatchford is on our side here. She's shi++ing all over Erin Dej's "research paper" in this column. Blatchford is a-ok.

    , @Rosie
    @Cagey Beast


    Nice White Lady academics may literally be the death of us. They may literally make it on the short list of reasons why western civilisation collapsed. The list will have to be compiled by a Russian or Chinese professor though because we’ll be gone. In a way, we will have deserved to go extinct.
     
    I am coming to the conclusion that White people can't leave anything alone. We are all progressive in a way. That makes us threatening to TPTB, who like the status quo. The solution is to never, ever acknowledge that racism/sexism/homophobia are over.

    It is shocking to me how casually other groups are willing to accept stagnation and hopelessness. White people (nice White ladies included) will never be like that.
    , @El Dato
    @Cagey Beast

    I didn't know the muscular black supershlong people on gay parades were homeless.

  32. OT: I got a few new “trait reports” from 23andme today, the most interesting of which was “ability to match musical pitch.” (The report said I was “more likely” to be able to do this – accurate.)

    If they can do this, surely they can produce trait reports about IQ and educational attainment, but I doubt that will happen anytime soon.

  33. KKK? LOL!

    The KKK is 80% FBI personnel (the relatively clean-cut guys) and 20% larp’ing Form 1099 independent contractors (the hirsute rednecks).

    The KKK has been a honeypot/anti-White false flag operation for half a century.

    KKK = Kleverly Koncealed Kops

    • Replies: @CCZ
    @Je Suis Omar Mateen

    KKK = an inning with 3 “swinging third strike” strike-outs.

    “Girl Gets Offended At Game Because Of A "KKK" Sign Recording The Number Of Strike Outs”

    “Several teams were contacted for comment.  One owner, speaking to us off the record, said the following: “We didn’t realize that our fans and players were making this connection.  Our job is conduct the National pastime, not create an uncomfortable environment.  If a rule comes from MLB we will comply and refuse to allow these “offensive” letters to be displayed in our stadiums.””

    Perhaps we should just permanently remove the “offensive” letter “K” from the alphabet.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @Pontius, @Rosamond Vincy

  34. Steve, is there a reason you’ve recently switched from Coalition of the Fringes to Coalition of the Margins?

    The latter is not as felicitous but it has more mainstream “Sapir-Whorf” potential, because while “fringe” has a negative connotation, “margin[alized]” has a positive one. Is this your reasoning?

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Anonymous

    Yes.

    I intend to use both fairly interchangeably and see if either one ever enters common usage.

    I am not optimistic, but whaddaya whaddaya?

    Replies: @Ghost of Bull Moose, @Elsewhere, @MBlanc46

  35. @Ghost of Bull Moose
    If you want a picture of the future, imagine this woman shouting in your face- forever:

    https://www.facebook.com/judgeofcharacters/videos/196855937636870/

    Replies: @Hockamaw

    I wish I hadn’t watched a minute of that video. How revolting.

  36. Speaking of “the self-indulgent tears of white women”:

    • LOL: Mr. Rational
  37. @Anonymous
    Steve, is there a reason you've recently switched from Coalition of the Fringes to Coalition of the Margins?

    The latter is not as felicitous but it has more mainstream "Sapir-Whorf" potential, because while "fringe" has a negative connotation, "margin[alized]" has a positive one. Is this your reasoning?

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    Yes.

    I intend to use both fairly interchangeably and see if either one ever enters common usage.

    I am not optimistic, but whaddaya whaddaya?

    • Replies: @Ghost of Bull Moose
    @Steve Sailer

    Fringes is better because it suggests a thinning out.

    Replies: @jJay, @Forbes

    , @Elsewhere
    @Steve Sailer

    Fringe is better because is suggests agency on the part of the people becoming fringe. People choose to pursue fringe interests, cultivate fringe identities, etc. Think of the New York International Fringe Festival.

    Margin suggests the agency is on those at those at the core, marginalizing the others. No one chooses to go to the margin, but many people would cherish being considered fringe for the right reasons.

    , @MBlanc46
    @Steve Sailer

    I do my best to get CotF out there. I’ll start working with CotM.

  38. @Achmed E. Newman
    @syonredux


    She is known for her work pertaining to white fragility, a term which she coined in 2011.
     
    She coined a term. Don't that beat all. Once you've coined a term you're a made man, or women, as the case may be. No need for a tenure committee and all that.

    Replies: @Buck Turgidson

    Buck Turgidson is known for his thinking on black fragility, a term he coined in 2018 while reading Steves website one day.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    @Buck Turgidson

    Get that into publication, dude, before some Fragility Studies professor steals it.

  39. I wonder what she thinks of Asian, especially Chinese, attitudes to blacks?

    Maybe she doesn’t know because she doesn’t speak any of their languages.

    Maybe she knows but figures that is someone else’s problem.

    • Replies: @Johnny Smoggins
    @Peripatetic commenter

    Hopefully she hasn't seen this...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GHpItxyFXDQ

    Replies: @Colin Wright

  40. @Mr. Blank
    I also liked how the article blandly throws out this bit about

    these so-called pillars of whiteness: assumptions that prop up racist beliefs without our realizing it. Such ideologies include individualism, or the distinctly white-American dream that one writes one’s own destiny, and objectivity, the confidence that one can free oneself entirely from bias.
     
    "Individualism" and "objectivity" are honky "ideologies." Of course, the opposite of an individual who thinks objectively is a raging mob. So that's...what we should strive for? Huh?

    I wonder if these people ever bother to really think about this crap, or if they just string trendy words together to come up with new ways of explaining "white = bad." It reminds me of Theodore Dalrymple's explanation of the purpose of propaganda.

    Replies: @jJay, @RonaldB, @slumber_j, @Anon, @TomSchmidt, @Rosamond Vincy

    Mr. Blank,

    Individualism regards man—every man—as an independent, sovereign entity who possesses an inalienable right to his own life, a right derived from his nature as a rational being. Individualism holds that a civilized society, or any form of association, cooperation or peaceful coexistence among men, can be achieved only on the basis of the recognition of individual rights—and that a group, as such, has no rights other than the individual rights of its members.

    Written by another homely woman. Ayn Rand is among the grateful dead.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    @jJay


    Ayn Rand is among the grateful dead.
     
    Whaaaa? Was that before Donna Godchaux? If she wrote any songs the way she wrote novels, I don't think even those 3 1/2 hour shows woulda' cut it.

    Nope, I don't need a woke woman. I'd go for one with rings on her fingers and bells on her shoes, and Scarlet Begonias wrapped up in her curls...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3eZsNPlifSQ

    "Well I ain't often right,
    but I've never been wrong.
    It seldom turns out
    like it does in this song"


    "Once in a while
    you get shown the light
    in the strangest of places,
    if you look at it right."


    (Nope, not Jerry's best lead on this by any means.)

    Replies: @Anonymous

  41. The irony is that colourful White men seem to do far better with vibrants than the nice White ladies think. Doug Ford just won an election in Ontario running against two nice White ladies. He did fine against them in Toronto’s vibrant suburbs: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ontario_general_election,_2018

    • Replies: @Johnny Smoggins
    @Cagey Beast

    His late brother Rob was (in)famously well regarded within the Jamaican community of Toronto. Before he was mayor he was the city councillor for a ward that was 75% non White and almost entirely made up of immigrants. And why wouldn't they like him? He was a loud, boisterous, fun guy who loved to party and who cared about things they cared about - reducing taxes and cutting government bureaucracy, not making more bicycle paths or cutting down on greenhouse gases - things that only SWPLs care about. .

    This is what the Becky's don't get; nobody wants to be around a problem glasses wearing hall monitor who's going to ruin all the fun and suck the life out of anything they're part of.

  42. Anonymous [AKA "fromtoronto"] says:
    @Cagey Beast
    OT but closely related:

    Christie Blatchford: Another problem for the (male) homeless: their hypermasculinity
    As if the homeless didn’t have enough going against them, now, it turns out, the bastards engage in 'compensatory masculinity,' according to new research
    https://nationalpost.com/opinion/christie-blatchford-another-problem-for-the-male-homeless-their-hypermasculinity

    Nice White Lady academics may literally be the death of us. They may literally make it on the short list of reasons why western civilisation collapsed. The list will have to be compiled by a Russian or Chinese professor though because we'll be gone. In a way, we will have deserved to go extinct.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Rosie, @El Dato

    To be clear, Christie Blatchford is on our side here. She’s shi++ing all over Erin Dej’s “research paper” in this column. Blatchford is a-ok.

    • Agree: Cagey Beast
  43. @syonredux

    Robin J. DiAngelo (born September 8, 1956)[1] is an American academic, lecturer, and author working in the fields of critical discourse analysis and whiteness studies. She is a part-time lecturer at the University of Washington, and formerly served as a tenured professor of multicultural education at Westfield State University. She is known for her work pertaining to white fragility, a term which she coined in 2011.
     

    DiAngelo received her Ph.D. in multicultural education from the University of Washington in 2004, with a dissertation entitled "Whiteness in racial dialogue: a discourse analysis".[2]
     

    Her Ph.D. committee was chaired by James A. Banks.[3] In 2007, she joined the faculty of Westfield State University,[4] where she was named a tenured professor of multicultural education in 2014. She later resigned from her position at Westfield.[3] She has since become a part-time lecturer at the University of Washington's School of Social Work,[5] from which she has received two Student’s Choice Awards for Educator of the Year.[6] In addition to teaching classes, she frequently gives seminars discussing racism, which she argues is embedded throughout America's political systems and culture.[7] As of February 2017, she was also the director of Equity for Sound Generations in Seattle, Washington.
     

    DiAngelo is known for her work regarding "white fragility", a term she coined in a 2011 peer-reviewed paper.[9][10][11] She has defined the concept of white fragility as "a state in which even a minimum amount of racial stress becomes intolerable, triggering a range of defensive moves." As of 2016, she regularly gives workshops on the topic.

     

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robin_DiAngelo




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    “… Unpacking the fantasy of black men as dangerous and violent, she does not simply fact-check it…”

    Now that I believe.

    • Replies: @Forbes
    @Ghost of Bull Moose

    I wonder, to whose "fantasy" is she referring? Her own?

  44. CCZ:

    Jersey City – how times have changed!

    Presently, discordance and enmity reins in a supposedly multicultural paradise! How one longs for the day when JC was a stable multiethnic paradise overseen and run by Frank Hague as his personal fiefdom.

  45. A game of Wokemon Go.

    Hunt em and collect the white scalps.

  46. @Steve Sailer
    @Anonymous

    Yes.

    I intend to use both fairly interchangeably and see if either one ever enters common usage.

    I am not optimistic, but whaddaya whaddaya?

    Replies: @Ghost of Bull Moose, @Elsewhere, @MBlanc46

    Fringes is better because it suggests a thinning out.

    • Agree: Mr. Rational
    • Replies: @jJay
    @Ghost of Bull Moose

    Agree. My "Agree" button doesn't light up. "Fringe" is the less academic-sounding word. Steve does well at avoiding academic jargon.

    Replies: @jJay, @Steve Sailer

    , @Forbes
    @Ghost of Bull Moose

    I immediately understood Coalition of the Fringes when first hearing it. Add to that the KKKrazy Glue to keep it together--which doesn't work as well with Coalition of the Margins.

  47. @Tiny Duck
    While nowhere near is insidious white women do there fair share of evil

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2018/08/09/laura-ingrahams-demographic-changes-monologue-is-rallying-cry-trumps-base/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.713b07f82f08


    I think everyone needs to acknowledge all of us whites have biases & prejudices . Feeling guilty is a good thing . Hopefully it encourages us self reflect and work at overcoming these . The issue I have with Trump , he encourages these prejudices to not only thrive but propagate

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    TD,

    DiAngelo is yearning for the right man to boink the white right out her. Is your Tiny Duck up to the challenge?

  48. Anon[275] • Disclaimer says:

    I remember when the media was talking about how angry Donald Trump was. I skipped through an hour long speech he made during the campaign and he was joking and talking normally, and I saw no anger. I skipped through a Hillary speech, and although I wouldn’t call her angry, she was closer to it than Trump.

    Projection. Same with the word “fragile.”

    White people, at least those who are not students in critical race theory classes, do not give a chuckwad about other races and don’t devote mental cycles to thinking about them. And they are happy to be white and certainly don’t want to be any other race, especially black. I guess talking back when being blacksplained to in mandatory implicit bias training makes you fragile? This would be called “acting out” for black secondary students.

    On the other hand, they would have us believe that blacks get PTSD from strings hanging in trees and from “microagresssions.” They need safe spaces and separate graduations. Special mentoring in classes. Tell me again, Who’s fragile?

    • Agree: Mr. Rational
  49. “In contrast to the usual white person, I am quite adept at rationally discussing all topics relating to race, having learned an enormous amount about the subject in the nearly three decades I’ve been writing professionally on the topic, and having arrived over my years of open-minded inquiry at objective, realistic, even-handed views. That’s why I’m constantly invited to lecture corporate America on what I’ve learned.”

    So are millions of your fellow white people, conservative and liberal, who in all likelihood never heard of Robin DiAngelo until now, nor were even aware of her research, and most likely are going to pass it off as being fodder for the “academic intellectuals” and their race hustler toadies. See, what happens here is that reporters and pundits from both sides point to “experts”, with these reporters and pundits then assuming the positions espoused by said “experts” represent the line of thinking of all, or most, of their ideological opponents. Essentially, the reporters and pundits get their base all riled up Seinfeldian-style–it’s a story about nothing.

    It’s Sailer’s law of NOTICING THE UNNOTICED–the media, mainstream or alternative, furnishes us with convenient concepts, such as “white fragility”, “safe spaces”, “race realism”, or “KKKrazyKlue”, that make it easier to remember the facts they prefer you to know and harder to remember the facts that undermine the concepts.

  50. Hey, if “flesh-toned” may not be an appropriate name for a beige crayon, then white is certainly not an appropriate name for a European.

    From now on I insist upon being described as a European-American.

  51. @syonredux

    Robin J. DiAngelo (born September 8, 1956)[1] is an American academic, lecturer, and author working in the fields of critical discourse analysis and whiteness studies. She is a part-time lecturer at the University of Washington, and formerly served as a tenured professor of multicultural education at Westfield State University. She is known for her work pertaining to white fragility, a term which she coined in 2011.
     

    DiAngelo received her Ph.D. in multicultural education from the University of Washington in 2004, with a dissertation entitled "Whiteness in racial dialogue: a discourse analysis".[2]
     

    Her Ph.D. committee was chaired by James A. Banks.[3] In 2007, she joined the faculty of Westfield State University,[4] where she was named a tenured professor of multicultural education in 2014. She later resigned from her position at Westfield.[3] She has since become a part-time lecturer at the University of Washington's School of Social Work,[5] from which she has received two Student’s Choice Awards for Educator of the Year.[6] In addition to teaching classes, she frequently gives seminars discussing racism, which she argues is embedded throughout America's political systems and culture.[7] As of February 2017, she was also the director of Equity for Sound Generations in Seattle, Washington.
     

    DiAngelo is known for her work regarding "white fragility", a term she coined in a 2011 peer-reviewed paper.[9][10][11] She has defined the concept of white fragility as "a state in which even a minimum amount of racial stress becomes intolerable, triggering a range of defensive moves." As of 2016, she regularly gives workshops on the topic.

     

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robin_DiAngelo




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    She looks fragile, that’s for sure.

  52. @Colin Wright
    Ms. Banks would appear to be 'black' -- ala Kamala Harris, et al, et al. She's one of those dreadful octoroons who do so much to make life worse for everybody.

    Someday, we are going to have to quit pretending this nonsense isn't happening. What we're going to do instead I genuinely don't know, but this shit is getting out of hand.

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    The New Yorker says she’s white.

    From the photo she uses, it could go either way. Maybe she never claims not to be white, but she Rachel Dolezalizes her hair to dupe naive white clients into thinking maybe she’s 1/8th black?

    • Replies: @Veracitor
    @Steve Sailer

    DiAngelo loudly claims to be White-- part of her shtick is talking about how she grew up "poor and White."

    , @Cagey Beast
    @Steve Sailer

    Where's William Faulkner when we need him? He was hip to the QQ: the Quadroon Question.

    , @Colin Wright
    @Steve Sailer

    She's got a complexion similar to Michelle Wolf -- who is Rumanian-and-something.

    Of course Rumanians proper don't look like that. Gypsy?

    (for a laugh, get the right gentile Rumanian to say 'gypsy.' You wouldn't believe how much meaning can be packed into the enunciation of one word.)

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Romanian

  53. @Ghost of Bull Moose
    @Steve Sailer

    Fringes is better because it suggests a thinning out.

    Replies: @jJay, @Forbes

    Agree. My “Agree” button doesn’t light up. “Fringe” is the less academic-sounding word. Steve does well at avoiding academic jargon.

    • Replies: @jJay
    @jJay

    Sorry, I got booted before I finished...


    OTOH, marginalize is a popular academic word that fringe isn't suited for. Maybe Steve is tinkering with 'margin' as a little prank.

    , @Steve Sailer
    @jJay

    But perhaps the better strategy is to agree with the word choice of the academic mindset that dominates the Democratic Party?

    My observation is close to inevitably true, so the question is how to get it in front of more people so they say, "Oh ... yeah! Of course that's true. Why didn't anybody ever tell me that before?"

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  54. I always considered “white privilege” to be a post-Christian analog to “original sin,” although at least Christians believe that original sin affects all humans whereas (((proponents of the white privilege theory))) only hold a rather small subset of humans responsible.

    • Replies: @International Jew
    @AndrewR


    I always considered “white privilege” to be a post-Christian analog to “original sin,”
     
    That's a pretty good way of thinking about it, though the analogy breaks down in one respect: original sin is thought to apply to all people everywhere, while white privilege is the burden only one group of people -- white people -- are doomed to carry.

    So I'd say a more accurate analogy is the accusation of having killed Christ. It's like white privilege the way original sin is too, but it's also specific to one group -- Jews.

    In fact, the doctrine of white privilege is like the Christocide libel in other ways. In both cases, the bearers of the curse are invited to discard some of the burden that comes with it: white people are invited to become "allies" (as this Robin DiAngelo has done), just as Jews have been urged to convert to Christianity. But in both cases, the curse is not fully lifted: "woke"/"allied" white people still have to grovel and scrape, and Jews who converted -- including their children and grandchildren -- were still targeted for destruction by the Nazis.

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  55. Well, at least we know where DiAngelo got her Crayola “[White] flesh-colored” crayon hatefact: from her Ph.D. thesis research reading old Berke Breathed’s Bloom County (Opus the Penguin) comic strips from the 1980’s peddling crayon-color outrage already 26 years out of date then and now 55 years wrong. Why let the truth detract from a smarmy little black-propaganda* claim?

    And did you know the SAT test expected both White and Black high-school students to know the words “yacht” and “regatta” to answer a certain vocabulary question? What could be more racist? Everyone knows Black people have been mortally afraid of boats since the days of the Middle Passage!

    *”Black propaganda” is a term of art which has nothing to do with dark-skinned people.

  56. @Steve Sailer
    @Colin Wright

    The New Yorker says she's white.

    From the photo she uses, it could go either way. Maybe she never claims not to be white, but she Rachel Dolezalizes her hair to dupe naive white clients into thinking maybe she's 1/8th black?

    Replies: @Veracitor, @Cagey Beast, @Colin Wright

    DiAngelo loudly claims to be White– part of her shtick is talking about how she grew up “poor and White.”

  57. @jJay
    @Ghost of Bull Moose

    Agree. My "Agree" button doesn't light up. "Fringe" is the less academic-sounding word. Steve does well at avoiding academic jargon.

    Replies: @jJay, @Steve Sailer

    Sorry, I got booted before I finished…

    OTOH, marginalize is a popular academic word that fringe isn’t suited for. Maybe Steve is tinkering with ‘margin’ as a little prank.

  58. A million Jewish women will buy this book. After all, it’s not about them, is it?

    It’ll end up on the shelf next to the Tennessee Coates books.

    • Replies: @Alden
    @peterike

    Don’t you mean Nehi Cola?

  59. @jJay
    @Ghost of Bull Moose

    Agree. My "Agree" button doesn't light up. "Fringe" is the less academic-sounding word. Steve does well at avoiding academic jargon.

    Replies: @jJay, @Steve Sailer

    But perhaps the better strategy is to agree with the word choice of the academic mindset that dominates the Democratic Party?

    My observation is close to inevitably true, so the question is how to get it in front of more people so they say, “Oh … yeah! Of course that’s true. Why didn’t anybody ever tell me that before?”

    • Agree: Mr. Rational
    • Replies: @Ghost of Bull Moose
    @Steve Sailer

    Stealing language is powerful, ie 'fake news,' meant to discredit non-narrative sources but now forever associated with CNN.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/03/arts/fake-news-shirt-newseum.html

  60. @Steve Sailer
    @Colin Wright

    The New Yorker says she's white.

    From the photo she uses, it could go either way. Maybe she never claims not to be white, but she Rachel Dolezalizes her hair to dupe naive white clients into thinking maybe she's 1/8th black?

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    Where’s William Faulkner when we need him? He was hip to the QQ: the Quadroon Question.

    • LOL: Mr. Rational
  61. As far as I can tell, white fragility means this: whites live an environment full of all this kafkatrapping — if they do something, it’s evidence of their racism, if they do the opposite, it’s evidence of their racism, if they do nothing, it’s evidence of their racism, if they advocate antiracism, it’s evidence that there must be so much racism inside them they’re trying to deflect it — and they respond, predictably, like somebody in a relationship with a gaslighting emotional abuser. Which is the final, damning piece of evidence that makes their racism undeniable.

    And if they make clear they still wish to appease these lunatics, that’s precisely what makes them easy marks for more personalized and insidious bullying.

    The closest analogue that comes to mind is the experience of family members who became involved in, and eventually escaped, Scientology, and how they describe the organization’s most effective cult tactic in controlling otherwise intelligent people: your desire to be seen as a decent, moral person is used as a weapon to crush your spirit and your identity and turn you into a sociopath’s helpless plaything.

    • Replies: @Pericles
    @WowJustWow

    There are two propositions from the Academy of the Fringes:

    1. All whites are racists.

    2. No non-whites are racists.

    From this we can easily prove that

    3. White is exactly the same as racist.

    From that it trivially follows, for example, that anti-racist is anti-white.

  62. @CCZ
    @Song For the Deaf

    But, like the new, improved, and enhanced definition of racism as practiced only by those who have power and privilege, ("blacks can't be racists because they are not the oppressor"), neither blacks, Jews, nor females (except when they act white) hold any "power" or "privilege" and, therefore, can not be "defensive" or "fragile" about something that they do not have.

    Although this story about a pair of homosexual males and a pair of black females fighting for control of an urban neighborhood association and affiliated community garden (and resorting to actual violence and a "Molotov cocktail"!!) seems to show some "fragility" when representatives of two of the "oppressed" groups challenge each other for power. Let's see who ultimately wins this contest, homosexuals or blacks.

    "How a feud over a community garden turned violent and 'bizarre'."

    https://www.nj.com/hudson/index.ssf/2018/08/astor_place_neighborhood_dispute_story.html#incart_m-rpt-2

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    “…The men told The Jersey Journal they initially sparred with Tinia Bland over the neighborhood association, saying she runs it without input from much of the community and elects herself president without holding elections….”

    Clearly these privileged members of the coalition of the fringes’s homosexual wing don’t understand the political superiority of the Negro “big man” system of governance. The imposition of “big man” political systems is just one of the blessings which our increasingly diverse culture will ultimately provide.

  63. @Anon
    https://robindiangelo.com/about-me/

    She majored in what?

    I earned tenure at Westfield State University and I have taught courses in Multicultural Teaching, Inter-group Dialogue Facilitation, Cultural Diversity & Social Justice, and Anti-Racist Education.

    Those are dogmas and agendas, not subjects or fields of study.

    My area of research is in Whiteness Studies and Critical Discourse Analysis, explicating how Whiteness is reproduced in everyday narratives.

    Whiteness Studies. LOL. Whiteness studies 1o1: Whitey is 'racist'. Whiteness studies 202: Whitey is privilege. Whiteness studies 303: Whitey is supremacy. Whiteness studies Ph.D: Whitey is Disease. Sounds like Hate Studies.

    Okay, so whiteness is like a disease to be diagnosed and cure.

    Whiteprivilegitis. Whitefragilitis. Whitesupremitis.

    And the cure? Lotsofsomalitis? Great cure for Minnesota and Ohio.

    In the past, they used to bleed patients. It often led to killing them.

    Now, whites are diagnosed of whiteness as a disease, and they can be cured with Diversity Treatment. Funny how the White Disease only gets worse. More Diversity only leads to more 'medical' war on Whiteness.

    But where has Diversity made a white nation better? If anything, non-whites seem to be fleeing from their own kind as a Disease and moving to Whiteness as the Cure.

    This Diagnosis of Whiteness as Disease is no longer like Nazi Antisemitism. It is the same thing. No wonder idiots like Jeong ended up the way they did.

    Social sciences produce Witch Doctors.

    Still, there is some truth to the problem of White Fragility. We see it with Germans esp in relation to WWII. Now, Germans being mindful of what happened and remembering the horror is a good and decent. But so many Germans like to put on this "I'm so sorry, boo hoo act, please forgive me for what is unforgivable, I love Jews, I hate my own kind" BS. I've heard from many people about meeting Germans who put on this shtick. Spare us the 'me so sorry' spectacle.

    As for Jews, they use media and academia to rob whites of pride, identity, and heritage. Whites are left feeling sorry, fragile, and anxious naturally. But then, whites are attacked for being fragile too.
    Sheesh.

    Replies: @Hubbub

    I wish to announce a new ‘whiteness’ term that I’ve just come up with while reading about this Banks woman – White Forbearance. It relates to my studies as to why white people continue to put up with this type of nonsense, pretend to take meaning from it, and then go on merrily with life while the sages of the media take it so seriously. No, it’s my term, you can’t have it, but I have classes springing up all across the country in community colleges, universities and cooperate board rooms – there is a place for you. So sign up now – it will change your life, if you have one,

  64. so that they fall to pieces at the first application of stress—such as, for instance, when someone suggests that “flesh-toned” may not be an appropriate name for a beige crayon

    The horrifying legacy of “beige” people having invented cool things like crayons.

    • LOL: Mr. Rational
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    @Tyrion 2

    Strange thing is, in Germanic languages, flesh is "fleisch" which refers to animal meat. So the actual color "flesh" would be the dull blood red of flayed meat and not a skin color at all. Throw that at her and knock her off her stride.

    "Old English flæsc "flesh, meat, muscular parts of animal bodies; body (as opposed to soul)," also "living creatures," also "near kindred" (a sense now obsolete except in phrase flesh and blood), from Proto-Germanic *flaiska-/*fleiski- (source also of Old Frisian flesk, Middle Low German vlees, German Fleisch "flesh," Old Norse flesk "pork, bacon"). Online Etymology

    , @Forbes
    @Tyrion 2

    Maybe those of us fair-hued specimens of humanity should ignore the use of "white" or "whites" to describe our identity--and opt for flesh-toned or beige. I, myself, often refer to being pink-toned or pink-skinned, though admittedly peach-colored may be closer to the real thing.

    Then this whole charade of white privilege and white fragility can end up in the dung heap where it belongs.

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    , @Anonymous
    @Tyrion 2

    I always took the "flesh tone" designation as a reference from 9th grade art history -- the actual color the crayon produces is not some scientific chromatic index of a white oppressor's epidermis, but resembles the exposed quarters of incompletely-clothed figures in certain Baroque masters like Rubens (very fleshy indeed). So it's a useful name if you know that history, but if you don't the crayon might as well be called "jiggly" or "Bubblicious" or "monkey dishwasher." Nothing prevents them from putting PANTONE digits on the markers, just to make kids' lives even more data-sanitized, the better to merge them into the social info-system analytics. Likewise, nothing prevents them from calling the crayons whatever they want, maybe even improving it-- Crayola has "yellow green" and "green yellow" options with no apparent basis other than poor imagination on the designer's part.

    What's the consternation anyway, with how we've named crayons or make-up products? It's so silly that I have to believe it's emotional displacement for NAM girls who are insecurely complected (not unheard of among the white population, as countless ineffective Clearisil and Noxzema-branded offerings would suggest).

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  65. Could all this Becky-bashing be Democrats preparing to admit that Hillary was a mistake? Blaming the Russians was the “can’t be our fault” reaction, but now they’ve got to look ahead to the next election and running someone else. So go after her identity group and strongest support base.

  66. Give the guy a break. Maybe he was just into Indianness Studies. After all, the Savages stood in the way of more ‘inclusion’ via immigration and imperialism. Those ‘racist’ and ‘xenophobic’ Indians were exclusive and resisted Diversity.

    https://www.vicnews.com/news/b-c-city-to-remove-sir-john-a-macdonald-statue-from-city-hall/

    • LOL: Mr. Rational
  67. I was born in 1961, and started kindergarten in 1966. I had a 64 box Crayola Crayon set, and the infamous “flesh” color had already been renamed “peach.”

    Got that? It’s been at least 52 YEARS since beige crayons were labeled “flesh.” Robin DiAngelo has never seen such a crayon, and they haven’t been made in her lifetime.

    Is it possible that there is so little genuine racism in modern America that she’s forced to reach back decades to find anything to complain about?

    • Replies: @Forbes
    @Astorian


    Is it possible that there is so little genuine racism in modern America that she’s forced to reach back decades to find anything to complain about?
     
    That's exactly it. DiAngelo was born in 1956--the flesh-colored crayon would've been around for her at age 5. I couldn't tell you definitively when in the middle '60s the "flesh" name was discontinued.

    Her approach isn't any different than the myriad of descriptions that fall back on the "legacy of slavery" or the "history of racism," as if it's a permanent disease condition that infects the entire white population, now and forever, and can never be eradicated--not even by the death of all those alive during slavery and of their children.

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  68. @syonredux

    Robin J. DiAngelo (born September 8, 1956)[1] is an American academic, lecturer, and author working in the fields of critical discourse analysis and whiteness studies. She is a part-time lecturer at the University of Washington, and formerly served as a tenured professor of multicultural education at Westfield State University. She is known for her work pertaining to white fragility, a term which she coined in 2011.
     

    DiAngelo received her Ph.D. in multicultural education from the University of Washington in 2004, with a dissertation entitled "Whiteness in racial dialogue: a discourse analysis".[2]
     

    Her Ph.D. committee was chaired by James A. Banks.[3] In 2007, she joined the faculty of Westfield State University,[4] where she was named a tenured professor of multicultural education in 2014. She later resigned from her position at Westfield.[3] She has since become a part-time lecturer at the University of Washington's School of Social Work,[5] from which she has received two Student’s Choice Awards for Educator of the Year.[6] In addition to teaching classes, she frequently gives seminars discussing racism, which she argues is embedded throughout America's political systems and culture.[7] As of February 2017, she was also the director of Equity for Sound Generations in Seattle, Washington.
     

    DiAngelo is known for her work regarding "white fragility", a term she coined in a 2011 peer-reviewed paper.[9][10][11] She has defined the concept of white fragility as "a state in which even a minimum amount of racial stress becomes intolerable, triggering a range of defensive moves." As of 2016, she regularly gives workshops on the topic.

     

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robin_DiAngelo




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    She’s over 60. So it’s an old picture, or a lot of help from cosmetics and an airbrush. She can’t be what she is, and she doesn’t want you to be what you are either.

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    @Cato

    Nearly all hetero women that age and generation dye their hair. Admittedly, I know one (married) woman who doesn't.

  69. Anon[429] • Disclaimer says:

    “If they can do this, surely they can produce trait reports about IQ and educational attainment, but I doubt that will happen anytime soon.”

    They did, actually. That’s why the government went after them. They cooked up some BS excuse to regulate their content because people were being exposed to a hard dose of truth too quickly – “you mean IQ has a proven genetic component, and I can search my genes for it here?!”

    At one time, 23andMe was very liberal with what they showed you. You can still search your raw data and match it with studies not shown on the main trait list: propensity for religiosity, anger, empathy, mistake avoidance, disease susceptibility, drug addiction likelihood, etc.

    They also had a section for various cognitive results; specifically, genes correlated with higher IQ. The great thing was going to the comment section and reading all the crying and wailing from SWPL-types assuring everyone that they really were smart despite not having certain “smart” alleles. Some people just live to think they are better than other people, and they get VERY upset when they learn they aren’t as far separated from the lower orders as they might want to believe:

    “What do you mean I don’t have the genes for high intelligence?! I never shop at Wal Mart, pal! It’s Panera Bread for me. And did I not go to Hamilton last year? Doesn’t that prove it right there? No, no, no. I’d never be caught dead at a Trump rally. Hey, I watch SNL here buddy.”

    I believe they replaced that section with a lot of uninteresting, non offensive, traits like athletic ability and dietary preference.

  70. @Je Suis Omar Mateen
    KKK? LOL!

    The KKK is 80% FBI personnel (the relatively clean-cut guys) and 20% larp'ing Form 1099 independent contractors (the hirsute rednecks).

    The KKK has been a honeypot/anti-White false flag operation for half a century.

    KKK = Kleverly Koncealed Kops

    Replies: @CCZ

    KKK = an inning with 3 “swinging third strike” strike-outs.

    “Girl Gets Offended At Game Because Of A “KKK” Sign Recording The Number Of Strike Outs”

    “Several teams were contacted for comment.  One owner, speaking to us off the record, said the following: “We didn’t realize that our fans and players were making this connection.  Our job is conduct the National pastime, not create an uncomfortable environment.  If a rule comes from MLB we will comply and refuse to allow these “offensive” letters to be displayed in our stadiums.””

    Perhaps we should just permanently remove the “offensive” letter “K” from the alphabet.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    @CCZ

    I hate to start something here, as I kinda like the Cat in the Hat, agitator though he is. I will tell you that the worry-wart goldfish in the videos is named Karlos K. Krinklebine.

    OK, maybe it's Carlos. Yeah, we don't need "K", when we've got the hard-"C". We should be good ... till the arrival of the Coo Clux Clan.

    Replies: @CCZ

    , @Pontius
    @CCZ

    I distinctly remember older BMW's with KKK turbochargers and White Power motorcycle shock absorbers back in the 80's. Simpler times...

    I am still waiting for someone to interview one of the fierce women of color risking their lives on the front lines of the California wildfires.

    , @Rosamond Vincy
    @CCZ

    Would that include Kris, Kim, Khloe, Kendall, and Kylie? Please say "Yes"!

  71. @Mr. Blank
    Steve, you missed the best part of the article:

    To be perceived as an individual, to not be associated with anything negative because of your skin color, she notes, is a privilege largely afforded to white people; although most school shooters, domestic terrorists, and rapists in the United States are white,
     
    Haven Monahan strikes again!

    Replies: @syonredux, @Stan d Mute, @Sammler, @TomSchmidt

    I love the weasel word “domestic” before “terrorists”.

  72. @Song For the Deaf
    So I read the article. The women’s entire life’s work depends on white people being afraid to public ally admit they are self-interested. All you would have to do to demolish her entire thesis is being unashamedly, tribally self-interested. She would have nothing to say to that.

    Replies: @Forbes, @Hunsdon

    All you would have to do to demolish her entire thesis is being unashamedly, tribally self-interested.

    Agreed. It’s pretty much how I feel and act.

    But this is exactly what the Celebrate Multiculturalism SJW brigade is all about defeating–that you MUST endorse “the other” before your own, your own spouse, your own children, your family, your relatives, etc. Their project is puerile.

  73. Here’s another story that points to the long term instability of the Coalition of the Margins:

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/09/us/chinese-americans-affirmative-action-admissions.html

    Chinese support for AA has collapsed in a very short amount of time.

  74. @Stan d Mute
    @Mr. Blank


    Haven Monahan strikes again!
     
    That’s a real conundrum isn’t it? Since white men rape almost exclusively Beckies, virtually never “womyn of color,” are white rapists still bad? It works out great for the tens of thousands of cases per annum where colored men rape Beckies, but how about when colored men rape “womyn of color?” We never hear about this in the news, apparently “womyn of color” just aren’t getting raped at all (is that why Sarah Jeong is so angry?). Or is the evil racist white priveleged media refusing to tell us about the #metoo epidemic in Detroit?

    The NYT needs to clarify this small matter so we can all think correctly.

    Replies: @Rosie

    Since white men rape almost exclusively Beckies,

    And that not very often.

  75. @Ghost of Bull Moose
    @syonredux

    "… Unpacking the fantasy of black men as dangerous and violent, she does not simply fact-check it..."

    Now that I believe.

    Replies: @Forbes

    I wonder, to whose “fantasy” is she referring? Her own?

  76. Its been years since I have seen the term, “latent homosexual’ used. Back in the day, forget about denying it.

    I like the label, ‘race realist’.

    The fragility off race realism?

    Thats the one discussion on race that the snowflakes won’t tolerate.

  77. @Anonymous
    @syonredux

    Are most school shooters white? It's not white schools that have metal detectors at entrances.

    Replies: @International Jew, @peterike

    Are most school shooters white?

    Maybe if you count shootings inside the school. Maybe. But definitely not if you also count shootings just outside the school — on the lawn, in the parking lot, outside the entrances.

  78. @Ghost of Bull Moose
    @Steve Sailer

    Fringes is better because it suggests a thinning out.

    Replies: @jJay, @Forbes

    I immediately understood Coalition of the Fringes when first hearing it. Add to that the KKKrazy Glue to keep it together–which doesn’t work as well with Coalition of the Margins.

  79. Anon[222] • Disclaimer says:

    “Could all this Becky-bashing be Democrats preparing to admit that Hillary was a mistake?”

    She wants to run again, guaranteed. They’ll lay the ground work to make sure that doesn’t happen. That’s part of what this is about. It’s not a coincidence that all this Becky stuff has accelerated from the moment Drudge started whispering about another Hillary run; they’re itching to go full on anti-white racist and 2020 may be the year they drop pretenses and do it. Since white feminists couldn’t deliver last time, the woke coalition is coming to see them as dispensable.

    • Replies: @Iberiano
    @Anon

    Yes, perhaps as a side-benefit, but the "becky" bashing is merely the dark forces of the race industry essentially "catching up" with some past oversights while roaming the countryside looking for racists--primarily because the demographic shift to even more non-whites, gives the bigots an opportunity to now go after their prior den mothers--white women. White women were always, as a matter of race reconciliation, on "the list"...and the author of this book is no exception (she just hopes to be eaten last). I sometimes wonder if such liberal whites are basically trolling...knowingly standing up and ensuring everyone sees they are indeed, the very.last.white.clapping.

    Our entire nation's direction is based upon, ultimately, what is best for white women, so I think that as the narrative shifts to attacking them, we will see white women give "permission" for white men and the culture at large, to protect them (via legislation, cultural cues, polices and yes, even physically). Right now, we are in the tenuous moment where being to "out" could still be a problem--but that will fade as the attacks increase and their (WW) safety net and physical, digital and emotional zones are violated.

    Replies: @Anon

    , @Rosamond Vincy
    @Anon


    She wants to run again, guaranteed
     
    Seen any recent photos? She looks half-dead!
  80. @Tyrion 2

    so that they fall to pieces at the first application of stress—such as, for instance, when someone suggests that “flesh-toned” may not be an appropriate name for a beige crayon
     
    The horrifying legacy of "beige" people having invented cool things like crayons.

    Replies: @ThreeCranes, @Forbes, @Anonymous

    Strange thing is, in Germanic languages, flesh is “fleisch” which refers to animal meat. So the actual color “flesh” would be the dull blood red of flayed meat and not a skin color at all. Throw that at her and knock her off her stride.

    “Old English flæsc “flesh, meat, muscular parts of animal bodies; body (as opposed to soul),” also “living creatures,” also “near kindred” (a sense now obsolete except in phrase flesh and blood), from Proto-Germanic *flaiska-/*fleiski- (source also of Old Frisian flesk, Middle Low German vlees, German Fleisch “flesh,” Old Norse flesk “pork, bacon”). Online Etymology

  81. @Cagey Beast
    OT but closely related:

    Christie Blatchford: Another problem for the (male) homeless: their hypermasculinity
    As if the homeless didn’t have enough going against them, now, it turns out, the bastards engage in 'compensatory masculinity,' according to new research
    https://nationalpost.com/opinion/christie-blatchford-another-problem-for-the-male-homeless-their-hypermasculinity

    Nice White Lady academics may literally be the death of us. They may literally make it on the short list of reasons why western civilisation collapsed. The list will have to be compiled by a Russian or Chinese professor though because we'll be gone. In a way, we will have deserved to go extinct.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Rosie, @El Dato

    Nice White Lady academics may literally be the death of us. They may literally make it on the short list of reasons why western civilisation collapsed. The list will have to be compiled by a Russian or Chinese professor though because we’ll be gone. In a way, we will have deserved to go extinct.

    I am coming to the conclusion that White people can’t leave anything alone. We are all progressive in a way. That makes us threatening to TPTB, who like the status quo. The solution is to never, ever acknowledge that racism/sexism/homophobia are over.

    It is shocking to me how casually other groups are willing to accept stagnation and hopelessness. White people (nice White ladies included) will never be like that.

  82. @Anonymous
    @syonredux

    Are most school shooters white? It's not white schools that have metal detectors at entrances.

    Replies: @International Jew, @peterike

    “Are most school shooters white? It’s not white schools that have metal detectors at entrances.”

    There’s a difference between “school shootings” and “shootings in or just outside of school.”

    The first is rare, usually non-black, and gets massive media coverage. The second is routine, nearly always black or Hispanic, and is completely ignored.

    • Agree: Mr. Rational
    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @peterike

    Gotcha. So a shooting at a school only becomes a school shooting when whites are involved. That's clear now.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    , @Pericles
    @peterike

    The black man, once again defeated by those damn metal detectors.

  83. @AndrewR
    I always considered "white privilege" to be a post-Christian analog to "original sin," although at least Christians believe that original sin affects all humans whereas (((proponents of the white privilege theory))) only hold a rather small subset of humans responsible.

    Replies: @International Jew

    I always considered “white privilege” to be a post-Christian analog to “original sin,”

    That’s a pretty good way of thinking about it, though the analogy breaks down in one respect: original sin is thought to apply to all people everywhere, while white privilege is the burden only one group of people — white people — are doomed to carry.

    So I’d say a more accurate analogy is the accusation of having killed Christ. It’s like white privilege the way original sin is too, but it’s also specific to one group — Jews.

    In fact, the doctrine of white privilege is like the Christocide libel in other ways. In both cases, the bearers of the curse are invited to discard some of the burden that comes with it: white people are invited to become “allies” (as this Robin DiAngelo has done), just as Jews have been urged to convert to Christianity. But in both cases, the curse is not fully lifted: “woke”/”allied” white people still have to grovel and scrape, and Jews who converted — including their children and grandchildren — were still targeted for destruction by the Nazis.

    • Replies: @AndrewR
    @International Jew

    Yeah, it's amazing how leftists try to convince us to welcome our own displacement/disenfranchisement/dispossession/etc while simultaneously being so free with their hate speech towards us. I am not as hardcore as many WNs (hell, I don't even identify as WN), but if white nationalism is the only movement that is serious about not letting whites become hated minorities in their own country, then I have no choice but to support white nationalism for the foreseeable future.

    , @Eagle Eye
    @International Jew



    I always considered “white privilege” to be a post-Christian analog to “original sin,”

     

    [International Jew:] ... the doctrine of white privilege is like the Christocide libel
     
    ...

    Excellent analogy.

    BTW the desperate struggle to destroy Christianity that accelerated through the 20th century is mainly motivated by the desire to impose sledge-hammer pseudo-moral doctrines to serve the interests of TPTB.

    It is naive to think that without Judeo-Christian ethics, people will just become non-judgmentally "nice" to each other. On the contrary, atavistic tribalism - in whatever bizarre form - and government-directed anti-Eastasia hatred will rush in to fill the carefully-excavated void.

    One of the key lies - rarely stated, but blatantly implied - is to attribute National Socialist atrocities to Christianity and Christian precepts. National Socialism, like its sister Communism, was virulently anti-Christian.

    (It is true that Christianity was not much of a force in opposing totalitarianism, having been massively compromised and weakened in the insane crime that was World War I. But Christian notions played no part whatever in the thinking of the National Socialist leadership. Hitler complained about Christianity's enfeebling effect on the Volk.)

    , @Buster Keaton’s Stunt Double
    @International Jew


    In fact, the doctrine of white privilege is like the Christocide libel...
     
    1: Be confronted by historical Jewish malfeasance

    2: Denounce all noticing of the same as (pick one of) the following - A: “forgery,” B: “libel,” C: “virulent anti-semetic canard”

    3: ???

    4: Profit!
  84. DiAngelo and her ilk are really operating from an outdated script (crayons are the best example of evil, pervasive racism she could bring up?). She’s full of assertions, and bland sophistry. It’s bizarre to hear this charlatan use ‘scientific’-toned language (the weird virus analogy of racism) to describe what is nothing more than her unfounded opinions. Sadly, as boring and nonsensical as it is, people eat this up. I wonder how well she’s paid.

    “She finds that the social costs for a black person in awakening the sleeping dragon of white fragility often prove so high that many black people don’t risk pointing out discrimination when they see it. And the expectation of “white solidarity”—white people will forbear from correcting each other’s racial missteps, to preserve the peace—makes genuine allyship elusive.”

    I get that some individual blacks may not want to ‘confront’ a white person about racism (perceived or not) to avoid an awkward situation, with, say, a co-worker. But when has open criticism of whites by blacks, in recent years, resulted in public persecution of said blacks for saying such things? If anything it is encouraged by mainstream culture/ media/ academia for whites (and only whites) to be perpetually shamed and gaslit for any hint of racism. Whites show racial solidarity and fail to ‘correct eachother’s missteps?’ On what planet? Whites (and only whites) are continually discouraged from thinking of themselves as having group interests. At least in the (heavily white) shitlibopolis where I live, liberal whites compete with each other to shame other whites to status-signal. DiAngelo has had several of her seminars here over the past few years, and multiple days sell out quickly. I know so many people who genuinely, whole-heartedly believe this stuff.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Anna Pavlova

    How was Spike Lee's career doing when he was accusing Italian-Americans of racism in "Do the Right Thing?"

    Pretty good.

    It only hit a pothole when he accused another white ethnic group of racism in "Mo Better Blues." If he'd just have had John Turturro play an Italian again, he'd have been golden.

  85. @Colin Wright
    It all makes one realize, 'thank God Trump won.'

    Of course he's unsatisfactory, and it may be too late anyway -- but think where we'd be if he had lost.

    Replies: @Cagey Beast, @dfordoom

    It all makes one realize, ‘thank God Trump won.’

    Of course he’s unsatisfactory, and it may be too late anyway — but think where we’d be if he had lost.

    Think where you’ll be when the Democrats retake the White House. They’ll be settling scores. The gloves will be off. They’re going to want revenge.

    You might find yourself remembering the good old days of the Obama presidency, when being white or heterosexual hadn’t yet been made illegal.

  86. Anon[139] • Disclaimer says:

    “Spike Lee’s BlacKKKlansman.”

    Synopsis: black director accused of antisemitism back in the 90s makes a movie about an unlikely Jewish detective and a black guy going under cover to fight David Duke, a guy who just so happens to have renounced his racist views in favor of becoming a pro-Palestinian activist and a 9/11 truther who thinks Israel was in on the plot. A greater apology letter there has never been. 9/10. Nominate this thing for best picture and best screenplay.

    • Replies: @Hunsdon
    @Anon

    Nominate it? Y U so raciss? Just give it the damn awards, already.

  87. @Astorian
    I was born in 1961, and started kindergarten in 1966. I had a 64 box Crayola Crayon set, and the infamous "flesh" color had already been renamed "peach."

    Got that? It's been at least 52 YEARS since beige crayons were labeled "flesh." Robin DiAngelo has never seen such a crayon, and they haven't been made in her lifetime.

    Is it possible that there is so little genuine racism in modern America that she's forced to reach back decades to find anything to complain about?

    Replies: @Forbes

    Is it possible that there is so little genuine racism in modern America that she’s forced to reach back decades to find anything to complain about?

    That’s exactly it. DiAngelo was born in 1956–the flesh-colored crayon would’ve been around for her at age 5. I couldn’t tell you definitively when in the middle ’60s the “flesh” name was discontinued.

    Her approach isn’t any different than the myriad of descriptions that fall back on the “legacy of slavery” or the “history of racism,” as if it’s a permanent disease condition that infects the entire white population, now and forever, and can never be eradicated–not even by the death of all those alive during slavery and of their children.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Forbes


    DiAngelo was born in 1956–the flesh-colored crayon would’ve been around for her at age 5. I couldn’t tell you definitively when in the middle ’60s the “flesh” name was discontinued.
     
    It's almost as though the country were mostly white back then.

    You can't get more racist than that, can you?
  88. @Peripatetic commenter
    I wonder what she thinks of Asian, especially Chinese, attitudes to blacks?

    Maybe she doesn't know because she doesn't speak any of their languages.

    Maybe she knows but figures that is someone else's problem.

    Replies: @Johnny Smoggins

    Hopefully she hasn’t seen this…

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
    @Johnny Smoggins

    'Hopefully she hasn’t seen this…'

    Notice how the white, blonde TV reportress isn't actually standing in front of those rather formidable black women. It's obviously some sort of montage thing.

    Replies: @Anonymous

  89. @Anna Pavlova
    DiAngelo and her ilk are really operating from an outdated script (crayons are the best example of evil, pervasive racism she could bring up?). She's full of assertions, and bland sophistry. It's bizarre to hear this charlatan use 'scientific'-toned language (the weird virus analogy of racism) to describe what is nothing more than her unfounded opinions. Sadly, as boring and nonsensical as it is, people eat this up. I wonder how well she's paid.

    "She finds that the social costs for a black person in awakening the sleeping dragon of white fragility often prove so high that many black people don’t risk pointing out discrimination when they see it. And the expectation of “white solidarity”—white people will forbear from correcting each other’s racial missteps, to preserve the peace—makes genuine allyship elusive."

    I get that some individual blacks may not want to 'confront' a white person about racism (perceived or not) to avoid an awkward situation, with, say, a co-worker. But when has open criticism of whites by blacks, in recent years, resulted in public persecution of said blacks for saying such things? If anything it is encouraged by mainstream culture/ media/ academia for whites (and only whites) to be perpetually shamed and gaslit for any hint of racism. Whites show racial solidarity and fail to 'correct eachother's missteps?' On what planet? Whites (and only whites) are continually discouraged from thinking of themselves as having group interests. At least in the (heavily white) shitlibopolis where I live, liberal whites compete with each other to shame other whites to status-signal. DiAngelo has had several of her seminars here over the past few years, and multiple days sell out quickly. I know so many people who genuinely, whole-heartedly believe this stuff.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    How was Spike Lee’s career doing when he was accusing Italian-Americans of racism in “Do the Right Thing?”

    Pretty good.

    It only hit a pothole when he accused another white ethnic group of racism in “Mo Better Blues.” If he’d just have had John Turturro play an Italian again, he’d have been golden.

  90. @Steve Sailer
    @Colin Wright

    The New Yorker says she's white.

    From the photo she uses, it could go either way. Maybe she never claims not to be white, but she Rachel Dolezalizes her hair to dupe naive white clients into thinking maybe she's 1/8th black?

    Replies: @Veracitor, @Cagey Beast, @Colin Wright

    She’s got a complexion similar to Michelle Wolf — who is Rumanian-and-something.

    Of course Rumanians proper don’t look like that. Gypsy?

    (for a laugh, get the right gentile Rumanian to say ‘gypsy.’ You wouldn’t believe how much meaning can be packed into the enunciation of one word.)

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Colin Wright

    As an OT aside, does anyone else think that Buddy Rich had to be part Gypsy?

    Surely the only big band bandleader who didn't read music, Rich would get a new arrangement or a new number and hire a classical percussionist or a studio drummer to walk the band through it and he'd listen to the drum part. Once. After that, for the rest of his life, he could play it perfectly.

    That's a characteristic some gypsy musicians used to pass some very demanding music education programs in Europe. They could not read music-for that matter, they could not read-but they'd listen once on a readthrough or a recording and then act like they could. They were so good at it the classical programs took a long while to catch on what they were doing.

    Many aspects of his personal behavior seem gypsy-like as well.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    , @Romanian
    @Colin Wright

    I googled this Michelle Wolf character and nothing says that she is part Romanian. Are you sure? Also, there is nothing about her that screams Romanian, that's not really a type of face you get around here. Some of the biggest distinctions between peoples, in my opinion, is what their uglies look like. Robin DiAngelo is a more believable Romanian than her, though hair that curly is very rare. I was in Thailand on a day trip to some island, having met no Romanians during the vacation, and I saw a homely girl on the big boat we were on and told my girlfriend of the time "what a Romanian face that girl has". She was Romanian.

    And, yes, we do pack a lot of meaning into the word, because it does not simply denote a race/ethnic group, but a whole slew of social pathologies. White Americans, even the old-timey racists, would not use n****r as an insult between themselves, because it was a specific descriptor. But Romanian colloquial speech does exactly that.

    PS Are you born in the 1960s or earlier? I find that to be the case with people who are used to saying Rumanian, which is the old form exonym. The Commies decided to ask partners to use the o variant, although, of course, other languages kept their own forms (Rumanien, Roumanie, Rumyniya). The Middle Ages term rumân came to mean "indentured servant" and person of low social status, for obvious reasons, so the language flowed towards a different direction.

    Replies: @Colin Wright

  91. @Cato
    @syonredux

    She's over 60. So it's an old picture, or a lot of help from cosmetics and an airbrush. She can't be what she is, and she doesn't want you to be what you are either.

    Replies: @Forbes

    Nearly all hetero women that age and generation dye their hair. Admittedly, I know one (married) woman who doesn’t.

  92. @Cagey Beast
    The irony is that colourful White men seem to do far better with vibrants than the nice White ladies think. Doug Ford just won an election in Ontario running against two nice White ladies. He did fine against them in Toronto's vibrant suburbs: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ontario_general_election,_2018

    Replies: @Johnny Smoggins

    His late brother Rob was (in)famously well regarded within the Jamaican community of Toronto. Before he was mayor he was the city councillor for a ward that was 75% non White and almost entirely made up of immigrants. And why wouldn’t they like him? He was a loud, boisterous, fun guy who loved to party and who cared about things they cared about – reducing taxes and cutting government bureaucracy, not making more bicycle paths or cutting down on greenhouse gases – things that only SWPLs care about. .

    This is what the Becky’s don’t get; nobody wants to be around a problem glasses wearing hall monitor who’s going to ruin all the fun and suck the life out of anything they’re part of.

  93. @Tyrion 2

    so that they fall to pieces at the first application of stress—such as, for instance, when someone suggests that “flesh-toned” may not be an appropriate name for a beige crayon
     
    The horrifying legacy of "beige" people having invented cool things like crayons.

    Replies: @ThreeCranes, @Forbes, @Anonymous

    Maybe those of us fair-hued specimens of humanity should ignore the use of “white” or “whites” to describe our identity–and opt for flesh-toned or beige. I, myself, often refer to being pink-toned or pink-skinned, though admittedly peach-colored may be closer to the real thing.

    Then this whole charade of white privilege and white fragility can end up in the dung heap where it belongs.

    • Replies: @Pericles
    @Forbes


    Then this whole charade of white privilege and white fragility can end up in the dung heap where it belongs.

     

    Sorry, the attacks won't stop even if you concede the game.
  94. @Anonymous
    Is Ta-Nehisi Coates' famous escalator story an example of black fragility?

    Replies: @CCZ

    Who is the “fragile” one here?

    Marblehead [MA] residents discuss white fragility at Abbot Library. (June 21, 2017)

    “…36 people gathered at the Abbot Library to have an open conversation about implicit bias and white fragility in the second installment of the Marblehead Racial Justice Team’s “Conversations on Race,” discussion series.”

    “Team member Nikki Moore gave an example to illustrate white fragility, which is “a state in which even a minimum amount of racial stress becomes intolerable, triggering a range of defensive moves,” according to Dr. Robin DiAngelo.”

    “Moore gave a scenario in which she walks through Abbot Hall and tells her white friend that the pictures of white men make her uncomfortable. The friend might react defensively, saying things like, “I didn’t do that” or “my ancestors weren’t slave masters.”

    “pictures of white men [in a library] make her uncomfortable.” Who is the truly fragile one in this example?

    • Replies: @Anna Pavlova
    @CCZ

    I agree completely.

    It's both amusing and disturbing that DiAngelo and those employed by the diversity gravy train so obviously misuse the definition of words. This is almost funnier than the phony buzzwords they create. I guess 'white fragility' counts as both a buzzword phrase, and a change in what the word fragility actually means...

    So... what of 'microaggressions' then? Would not taking umbrage against minor, unintentional, perceived slights count as 'black fragility' (as in the example you quote)? We're constantly badgered with stories of how such microaggressions make living anywhere near white people so horrific for POC (even as they clamor for more access to white, or perceived-white spaces). They must be very fragile indeed....

    The act of defending yourself via argumentation, or any lack of deference, is considered 'fragility' (but only for whitey, of course). Having a backbone and enough fortitude to go against the grain = fragility. Okay then.

    Replies: @Anonymous

  95. Anon[276] • Disclaimer says:

    “Think where you’ll be when the Democrats retake the White House. They’ll be settling scores. The gloves will be off. They’re going to want revenge.”

    Option 1: secession before that happens or as it happens (unlikely because whites aren’t very intelligent or group oriented)

    Option 2: Trump seizes power like all great men do (unlikely because Trump is too old and self-obsessed…he didn’t even want to be president to start with and sank into a deep depression for about 6 months after inauguration)

    Option 3: We go to another country (unlikely…where?)

    Option 4: We keep our heads down as people did in the old Soviet Union, hoping to go unnoticed by the secret police (most likely)

    • Replies: @dfordoom
    @Anon


    Option 4: We keep our heads down as people did in the old Soviet Union, hoping to go unnoticed by the secret police (most likely)
     
    Yep, that seems to be the most likely future.

    The problem is that in the old Soviet Union the secret police probably weren't going to bother you unless you made yourself obvious. In the new Soviet America the secret police are likely to be a lot more aggressive in ferreting out potential trouble-makers.They'll purge you for a throw-away remark you made 30 years ago.

    The new secret police will be a lot more petty than anything in the old Soviet Union.

    It won't be like the Soviet Union under Brezhnev. It will be more like China under Mao at the height of the Cultural Revolution.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

  96. Anonymous [AKA "A. Yell"] says:

    “White Fragility is a state in which even a minimum amount of racial stress becomes intolerable, triggering a range of defensive moves. These moves include the outward display of emotions such as anger, fear, and guilt, and behaviors such as argumentation, silence, and leaving the stress-inducing situation.”

    In other words unless Whites just surrender on this issue they are being fragile! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! We’re angry because you “anti-racists” are waging a race war against us. We’re fearful because you are murdering, raping, pillaging and slandering us. The only ones who are acting guilty are the White Uncle Toms who go along with this anti-White b.s. Of COURSE we argue with you because we are unwilling to be ethnically cleansed. The reason we’re silent is because White people’s lives have been utterly destroyed by this weaponized political correctness. “Stress-inducing situation” is code for murder, rape, pillage and slander.

    • Agree: Mr. Rational
  97. @Steve Sailer
    @jJay

    But perhaps the better strategy is to agree with the word choice of the academic mindset that dominates the Democratic Party?

    My observation is close to inevitably true, so the question is how to get it in front of more people so they say, "Oh ... yeah! Of course that's true. Why didn't anybody ever tell me that before?"

    Replies: @Ghost of Bull Moose

    Stealing language is powerful, ie ‘fake news,’ meant to discredit non-narrative sources but now forever associated with CNN.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/03/arts/fake-news-shirt-newseum.html

  98. @Johnny Smoggins
    @Peripatetic commenter

    Hopefully she hasn't seen this...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GHpItxyFXDQ

    Replies: @Colin Wright

    ‘Hopefully she hasn’t seen this…’

    Notice how the white, blonde TV reportress isn’t actually standing in front of those rather formidable black women. It’s obviously some sort of montage thing.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Colin Wright

    Ms "Glassberg" is safer that way, being all fragile.

    Also, it cuts down on the negro antics for the camera.

  99. @candid_observer
    OT a bit,

    Bret Stephens performs his usual ritual cuck at the Times, defending the honor of Sarah Jeong:

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/09/opinion/sarah-jeong-tweets-opinion-section.html

    What's interesting is the overwhelming number of comments critical of the column and the Times in the Readers' Picks.

    When you've lost the readership of the Times...

    Replies: @Cagey Beast, @Charles Erwin Wilson, @RonaldB, @stillCARealist, @Frau Katze

    Is anyone worthy of more opprobrium than Bret Stephens ? Even David Brooks, who has earned the contempt of all within earshot or visual identification, seems slightly less odious.

    Neither belong in America.

    • Replies: @Ghost of Bull Moose
    @Charles Erwin Wilson

    Speaking of hot potatoes, does either side want the neocons? Bolton is a bit of a war poodle himself, but by supporting Trump he's voted himself off Neocon Island.

    Men Without a Country, indeed.

  100. @syonredux

    Robin J. DiAngelo (born September 8, 1956)[1] is an American academic, lecturer, and author working in the fields of critical discourse analysis and whiteness studies. She is a part-time lecturer at the University of Washington, and formerly served as a tenured professor of multicultural education at Westfield State University. She is known for her work pertaining to white fragility, a term which she coined in 2011.
     

    DiAngelo received her Ph.D. in multicultural education from the University of Washington in 2004, with a dissertation entitled "Whiteness in racial dialogue: a discourse analysis".[2]
     

    Her Ph.D. committee was chaired by James A. Banks.[3] In 2007, she joined the faculty of Westfield State University,[4] where she was named a tenured professor of multicultural education in 2014. She later resigned from her position at Westfield.[3] She has since become a part-time lecturer at the University of Washington's School of Social Work,[5] from which she has received two Student’s Choice Awards for Educator of the Year.[6] In addition to teaching classes, she frequently gives seminars discussing racism, which she argues is embedded throughout America's political systems and culture.[7] As of February 2017, she was also the director of Equity for Sound Generations in Seattle, Washington.
     

    DiAngelo is known for her work regarding "white fragility", a term she coined in a 2011 peer-reviewed paper.[9][10][11] She has defined the concept of white fragility as "a state in which even a minimum amount of racial stress becomes intolerable, triggering a range of defensive moves." As of 2016, she regularly gives workshops on the topic.

     

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robin_DiAngelo




    https://westerntoday.wwu.edu/files/FavRe.jpeg

    Replies: @Cagey Beast, @Achmed E. Newman, @Ghost of Bull Moose, @Luke Lea, @Cato, @Charles Erwin Wilson, @Iberiano, @Frau Katze, @TomSchmidt

    Nope. She isn’t even a double-bagger. And yes, I’d chew my arm off. And no, even if she were the last hope for humanity. Nope and nope.

    There are some things that are too much to ask, even if they entail the saving of the species.

  101. I read all the excerpts. It made my blood boil, but I got through it.

    Monsieur Sailer, I hope that you will read this book for us. On the other hand, I doubt there’s anything in there you haven’t encountered before, ad nauseam.

    I am certainly curious to know what mental contortions this DiAngelo (Italian father, Ashkenazi mother?) considers to be ‘fact-checking’ the ‘fantasy’ that ‘black men [are] dangerous and violent.’

    For starters, aren’t all men to be assumed potentially dangerous and violent according to feminist catechism?

    (I understand that some of you would reply to the above by asserting that feminism reserves its ire for white men; I agree up to a point. To those who would proclaim that white women actually feel drawn to dangerous and violent men of other races. Ask yourself: are you sure that isn’t your own fantasy talking?)

    One more question: if I were to admit that whites have the responsibility to ‘dismantle’ racism, how would I do it? How would I even get started? How how how how?? I just want to help dismantle this abstract idea! Would money help?

  102. @Cagey Beast
    @Colin Wright

    Exactly. Hillary Clinton would have slipped smoothly into the Washington machine and started pumping out the anti-White man stuff every single day. Every single day, worldwide, forever.

    Replies: @Colin Wright, @Anonymous

    ‘…the anti-White man stuff every single day…’

    The weird thing is why are we getting this poisonous, useless, utterly false stuff at all? What conceivable good or even truth could come of it?

    It’s like everyone’s earnestly recommending drinking a cup of hot bleach first thing every morning. I just don’t see the up side. Even if, as an abstract proposition, someone had an authentic grievance, how is this supposed to address it?

    • Agree: sayless
    • Replies: @dfordoom
    @Colin Wright


    Even if, as an abstract proposition, someone had an authentic grievance, how is this supposed to address it?
     
    The idea is not to address any grievances but to exacerbate them and exaggerate them and inflame them, this being politically useful since it distracts attention way from other things that the bankers and billionaires and the politicians they own might be up to.

    If you're conducting a vicious vindictive class war and you don't want anyone to notice then you pretends that there's a race war or a gender war going on. If you control the megaphone you'll get way with it.
    , @CCZ
    @Colin Wright

    The Navy warning: Constant Bearing + Decreasing Range = Brace For Collision

    The Civilian warning, spoken and written by many others before this post: Diversity + Proximity = Conflict

    , @Anonymous
    @Colin Wright

    It's all about training white people.

    Why do we keep getting it? Because it works, and these people are in power.

    , @Paco Wové
    @Colin Wright

    I assume the function is to keep the white majority constantly on eggshells, self-censoring, submissive, and in retreat. At least until it is no longer a majority.

  103. @jJay
    @Mr. Blank

    Mr. Blank,


    Individualism regards man—every man—as an independent, sovereign entity who possesses an inalienable right to his own life, a right derived from his nature as a rational being. Individualism holds that a civilized society, or any form of association, cooperation or peaceful coexistence among men, can be achieved only on the basis of the recognition of individual rights—and that a group, as such, has no rights other than the individual rights of its members.
     
    Written by another homely woman. Ayn Rand is among the grateful dead.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

    Ayn Rand is among the grateful dead.

    Whaaaa? Was that before Donna Godchaux? If she wrote any songs the way she wrote novels, I don’t think even those 3 1/2 hour shows woulda’ cut it.

    Nope, I don’t need a woke woman. I’d go for one with rings on her fingers and bells on her shoes, and Scarlet Begonias wrapped up in her curls…

    “Well I ain’t often right,
    but I’ve never been wrong.
    It seldom turns out
    like it does in this song”

    “Once in a while
    you get shown the light
    in the strangest of places,
    if you look at it right.”

    (Nope, not Jerry’s best lead on this by any means.)

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Achmed E. Newman

    The whole idea of Objectivist Deadheads sounded so ludicrous I figured it had to actually be a thing, but search engine inquiries show nothing. At last there is SOME nonexistent (but theoretically possible) subgroup of Deadheads in the multiverse.

    Jerry was a great guitarist at one time, but that time was mostly before Workingman's Dead.

  104. @Buck Turgidson
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Buck Turgidson is known for his thinking on black fragility, a term he coined in 2018 while reading Steves website one day.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

    Get that into publication, dude, before some Fragility Studies professor steals it.

  105. @Charles Erwin Wilson
    @candid_observer

    Is anyone worthy of more opprobrium than Bret Stephens ? Even David Brooks, who has earned the contempt of all within earshot or visual identification, seems slightly less odious.

    Neither belong in America.

    Replies: @Ghost of Bull Moose

    Speaking of hot potatoes, does either side want the neocons? Bolton is a bit of a war poodle himself, but by supporting Trump he’s voted himself off Neocon Island.

    Men Without a Country, indeed.

  106. @CCZ
    @Je Suis Omar Mateen

    KKK = an inning with 3 “swinging third strike” strike-outs.

    “Girl Gets Offended At Game Because Of A "KKK" Sign Recording The Number Of Strike Outs”

    “Several teams were contacted for comment.  One owner, speaking to us off the record, said the following: “We didn’t realize that our fans and players were making this connection.  Our job is conduct the National pastime, not create an uncomfortable environment.  If a rule comes from MLB we will comply and refuse to allow these “offensive” letters to be displayed in our stadiums.””

    Perhaps we should just permanently remove the “offensive” letter “K” from the alphabet.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @Pontius, @Rosamond Vincy

    I hate to start something here, as I kinda like the Cat in the Hat, agitator though he is. I will tell you that the worry-wart goldfish in the videos is named Karlos K. Krinklebine.

    OK, maybe it’s Carlos. Yeah, we don’t need “K”, when we’ve got the hard-“C”. We should be good … till the arrival of the Coo Clux Clan.

    • Replies: @CCZ
    @Achmed E. Newman

    You have discovered the hidden "code" that must certainly prove Dr. Seuss was a racist.

    Remember when the librarian for Cambridgeport Elementary School in Massachusetts, Liz Phipps Soeiro, rejected a shipment of 10 Dr. Seuss books from Trump, writing: "Another fact that many people are unaware of is that Dr. Seuss’s illustrations are steeped in racist propaganda, caricatures and harmful stereotypes."

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

  107. @syonredux
    @Mr. Blank


    To be perceived as an individual, to not be associated with anything negative because of your skin color, she notes, is a privilege largely afforded to white people; although most school shooters, domestic terrorists, and rapists in the United States are white,
     
    Someone doesn't understand statistics....

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Anonymous

    The phrase “per capita” is so totally racist that I can’t even.

    • LOL: Mr. Rational
  108. @Anon
    "Think where you’ll be when the Democrats retake the White House. They’ll be settling scores. The gloves will be off. They’re going to want revenge."

    Option 1: secession before that happens or as it happens (unlikely because whites aren't very intelligent or group oriented)

    Option 2: Trump seizes power like all great men do (unlikely because Trump is too old and self-obsessed...he didn't even want to be president to start with and sank into a deep depression for about 6 months after inauguration)

    Option 3: We go to another country (unlikely...where?)

    Option 4: We keep our heads down as people did in the old Soviet Union, hoping to go unnoticed by the secret police (most likely)

    Replies: @dfordoom

    Option 4: We keep our heads down as people did in the old Soviet Union, hoping to go unnoticed by the secret police (most likely)

    Yep, that seems to be the most likely future.

    The problem is that in the old Soviet Union the secret police probably weren’t going to bother you unless you made yourself obvious. In the new Soviet America the secret police are likely to be a lot more aggressive in ferreting out potential trouble-makers.They’ll purge you for a throw-away remark you made 30 years ago.

    The new secret police will be a lot more petty than anything in the old Soviet Union.

    It won’t be like the Soviet Union under Brezhnev. It will be more like China under Mao at the height of the Cultural Revolution.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @dfordoom

    Oh, yeah, I've been mentioning how America is drifting toward Rule by Actresses, but there is an example of Rule by Actress: China from about 1965-1977 under Mrs. Mao's heavy influence. Paul Johnson said she brought "the spirit of theatrical vendetta" to affairs of state.

    It's not unknown in world history for actress/model/whatevers to wind up with a lot of power: the Empress Theodora, the two Mrs. Perons, etc.

    Replies: @David, @Anonymous, @dfordoom

  109. @Cagey Beast
    @Colin Wright

    Exactly. Hillary Clinton would have slipped smoothly into the Washington machine and started pumping out the anti-White man stuff every single day. Every single day, worldwide, forever.

    Replies: @Colin Wright, @Anonymous

    And it would have the force of law, and be insinuated even more thoroughly into every nook and cranny of our society. All that’s happened is that it’s been slowed down a tiny bit. Meanwhile new Democrats are still pouring over the borders, what’s left of them.

  110. @Daniel H
    Di Angelo’s work is good for the cause of truth and justice and should be encouraged and applauded.

    Di Angelo’s critique ignores prole whites - they are beneath notice and contempt, most likely - and targets liberal SWPL whites. She asserts that they are hopelessly entangled in racism and will remain so as long as the status quo endures, a status quo that SWPL whites actually like and want to preserve because it grants them prestige, wealth and status. Because of SWPL’s commitment to the status quo she says that are not only complicit in racism but are racist themselves. I have used this same rhetoric agains SWPLs in personal interaction and it drives them bananas. They will not engage further once this accusation is thrown at them and will ignore me, shut me down. Well, I’m just a prole bullshitter, easy to ignore but it will be harder to ignore those charges when leveled by more and more of their own kind.

    A general racism critique leveled at SWPL liberals doesn’t just drive them to distraction it hurts them to the bone. They become defensive, overwrought, angry, and eventually resentful, bitter and vengeful, and, as a result, more than a few of them will pull the lever - in secret - for Donald Trump in 2020. Keep it up Ms. Di Angelo, you are doing good work.

    Replies: @Square Wheeled Hot Rod

    Maybe she will make a few SWPL women uneasy, but I doubt that it will be catching. You have to remember that progressive whites thrive on guilt. It races through their veins and makes them high. What better lapel button to signal their virtue than feeling shame for breathing oxygen that some person of color has been denied because of systematic white oxygenism?

    I hope for her sake that Miz Di Angelo isn’t outed as being less than 100 percent white. (Looks possible from her mug shot.) If one of her ancestors had a brush with negritude even a few generations back, it would hinder her speaking power to truth — she’d be arguing for her own people rather than selflessly advocating for the Victim Class.

  111. @Colin Wright
    @Cagey Beast

    '...the anti-White man stuff every single day...'

    The weird thing is why are we getting this poisonous, useless, utterly false stuff at all? What conceivable good or even truth could come of it?

    It's like everyone's earnestly recommending drinking a cup of hot bleach first thing every morning. I just don't see the up side. Even if, as an abstract proposition, someone had an authentic grievance, how is this supposed to address it?

    Replies: @dfordoom, @CCZ, @Anonymous, @Paco Wové

    Even if, as an abstract proposition, someone had an authentic grievance, how is this supposed to address it?

    The idea is not to address any grievances but to exacerbate them and exaggerate them and inflame them, this being politically useful since it distracts attention way from other things that the bankers and billionaires and the politicians they own might be up to.

    If you’re conducting a vicious vindictive class war and you don’t want anyone to notice then you pretends that there’s a race war or a gender war going on. If you control the megaphone you’ll get way with it.

    • Agree: Mr. Rational
  112. @Colin Wright
    @Cagey Beast

    '...the anti-White man stuff every single day...'

    The weird thing is why are we getting this poisonous, useless, utterly false stuff at all? What conceivable good or even truth could come of it?

    It's like everyone's earnestly recommending drinking a cup of hot bleach first thing every morning. I just don't see the up side. Even if, as an abstract proposition, someone had an authentic grievance, how is this supposed to address it?

    Replies: @dfordoom, @CCZ, @Anonymous, @Paco Wové

    The Navy warning: Constant Bearing + Decreasing Range = Brace For Collision

    The Civilian warning, spoken and written by many others before this post: Diversity + Proximity = Conflict

  113. Anonymous[337] • Disclaimer says:
    @Forbes
    @Astorian


    Is it possible that there is so little genuine racism in modern America that she’s forced to reach back decades to find anything to complain about?
     
    That's exactly it. DiAngelo was born in 1956--the flesh-colored crayon would've been around for her at age 5. I couldn't tell you definitively when in the middle '60s the "flesh" name was discontinued.

    Her approach isn't any different than the myriad of descriptions that fall back on the "legacy of slavery" or the "history of racism," as if it's a permanent disease condition that infects the entire white population, now and forever, and can never be eradicated--not even by the death of all those alive during slavery and of their children.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    DiAngelo was born in 1956–the flesh-colored crayon would’ve been around for her at age 5. I couldn’t tell you definitively when in the middle ’60s the “flesh” name was discontinued.

    It’s almost as though the country were mostly white back then.

    You can’t get more racist than that, can you?

    • LOL: Mr. Rational
  114. @Colin Wright
    @Johnny Smoggins

    'Hopefully she hasn’t seen this…'

    Notice how the white, blonde TV reportress isn't actually standing in front of those rather formidable black women. It's obviously some sort of montage thing.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    Ms “Glassberg” is safer that way, being all fragile.

    Also, it cuts down on the negro antics for the camera.

  115. @Colin Wright
    @Cagey Beast

    '...the anti-White man stuff every single day...'

    The weird thing is why are we getting this poisonous, useless, utterly false stuff at all? What conceivable good or even truth could come of it?

    It's like everyone's earnestly recommending drinking a cup of hot bleach first thing every morning. I just don't see the up side. Even if, as an abstract proposition, someone had an authentic grievance, how is this supposed to address it?

    Replies: @dfordoom, @CCZ, @Anonymous, @Paco Wové

    It’s all about training white people.

    Why do we keep getting it? Because it works, and these people are in power.

    • Agree: Mr. Rational
  116. Does this book ever get around to that string of Beckys who ruined Bill Cosby’s career?

    diversity struggle session leader

    Now there’s the WTF of the Day.

    naïve

    I didn’t take notice of what this appeared in, but this one clue makes it obvious.

    A nice young lady named Zoe gave me a free breadstick sample at a Kwik Trip today. I praised her parents for spelling her name right, but said it really needed the dots. But a closer look revealed that she had added them herself with a marker.

    There may be hope for America yet.

  117. @CCZ
    @Je Suis Omar Mateen

    KKK = an inning with 3 “swinging third strike” strike-outs.

    “Girl Gets Offended At Game Because Of A "KKK" Sign Recording The Number Of Strike Outs”

    “Several teams were contacted for comment.  One owner, speaking to us off the record, said the following: “We didn’t realize that our fans and players were making this connection.  Our job is conduct the National pastime, not create an uncomfortable environment.  If a rule comes from MLB we will comply and refuse to allow these “offensive” letters to be displayed in our stadiums.””

    Perhaps we should just permanently remove the “offensive” letter “K” from the alphabet.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @Pontius, @Rosamond Vincy

    I distinctly remember older BMW’s with KKK turbochargers and White Power motorcycle shock absorbers back in the 80’s. Simpler times…

    I am still waiting for someone to interview one of the fierce women of color risking their lives on the front lines of the California wildfires.

  118. Anonymous[263] • Disclaimer says:

    Woke? They call their zombies “woke” because leftists are liars.

    So dumb. This article is more proof that leftists NEED to get violent because their rhetoric alone is way too stupid to effect change.

    Violence (and also the threat of violence) is the key to leftwing solvency. The crazed chatter of leftist intellectuals doesn’t sell without the sexy street fighting waged against the bogeyman.

    • Agree: Mr. Rational
  119. @Cagey Beast
    OT but closely related:

    Christie Blatchford: Another problem for the (male) homeless: their hypermasculinity
    As if the homeless didn’t have enough going against them, now, it turns out, the bastards engage in 'compensatory masculinity,' according to new research
    https://nationalpost.com/opinion/christie-blatchford-another-problem-for-the-male-homeless-their-hypermasculinity

    Nice White Lady academics may literally be the death of us. They may literally make it on the short list of reasons why western civilisation collapsed. The list will have to be compiled by a Russian or Chinese professor though because we'll be gone. In a way, we will have deserved to go extinct.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Rosie, @El Dato

    I didn’t know the muscular black supershlong people on gay parades were homeless.

  120. Who said chivalry was dead.

  121. @dfordoom
    @Anon


    Option 4: We keep our heads down as people did in the old Soviet Union, hoping to go unnoticed by the secret police (most likely)
     
    Yep, that seems to be the most likely future.

    The problem is that in the old Soviet Union the secret police probably weren't going to bother you unless you made yourself obvious. In the new Soviet America the secret police are likely to be a lot more aggressive in ferreting out potential trouble-makers.They'll purge you for a throw-away remark you made 30 years ago.

    The new secret police will be a lot more petty than anything in the old Soviet Union.

    It won't be like the Soviet Union under Brezhnev. It will be more like China under Mao at the height of the Cultural Revolution.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    Oh, yeah, I’ve been mentioning how America is drifting toward Rule by Actresses, but there is an example of Rule by Actress: China from about 1965-1977 under Mrs. Mao’s heavy influence. Paul Johnson said she brought “the spirit of theatrical vendetta” to affairs of state.

    It’s not unknown in world history for actress/model/whatevers to wind up with a lot of power: the Empress Theodora, the two Mrs. Perons, etc.

    • Replies: @David
    @Steve Sailer

    Mark Twain quipped that France has usually been governed by prostitutes.

    , @Anonymous
    @Steve Sailer


    Paul Johnson said she brought “the spirit of theatrical vendetta” to affairs of state.
     
    A great phrase that is--and no surprise, coming from Prof. Johnson.
    , @dfordoom
    @Steve Sailer


    Oh, yeah, I’ve been mentioning how America is drifting toward Rule by Actresses,
     
    So when Rule by Actresses becomes law (and I agree with you that it's inevitable) - do you have any predictions as to the first U.S. Actress-President?

    Replies: @Rosamond Vincy

  122. Anonymous[234] • Disclaimer says:
    @Song For the Deaf
    Let’s face it, white female tears turn them on. They may hate white men but white women they hold in contempt. It’s safe to say the male half of the Coalition of the Resentful harbors half-concealed white rape fantasies and the non-white female half is at least semi-aware of it.

    Anyway, I love stuff like this and hope we see more and more of it. I know of no other way to wake white women up. Somebody needs to explain to them just how weak and coddled everybody thinks they are.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @RonaldB

    I think their contempt for white women far exceeds their dislike of white men. When they go after a white man it’s usually because they believe he’s killed a black male for no good reason; now they’re targeting white women for being bitchy. Even the term “Becky” kind of gives it away: the archetypal white woman here is a spoiled, pampered, entitled Valley Girl cliche. You can’t not hate somebody like that. And remember that a high percentage of the white women a typical urban black encounters will somewhat live up to that stereotype; there aren’t a lot of blue-collar white females in Chicago or NYC anymore.

    As far as “waking” white women up, the proletarians and flyover state den mothers are already as woke as they’re likely to get. For the Sex and the City re-enactors, SWPLs and blue-state progressives nothing short of a literal gun to the head is likely to prompt any sort of reflection.

  123. @peterike
    @Anonymous

    “Are most school shooters white? It’s not white schools that have metal detectors at entrances.”

    There’s a difference between “school shootings” and “shootings in or just outside of school.”

    The first is rare, usually non-black, and gets massive media coverage. The second is routine, nearly always black or Hispanic, and is completely ignored.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Pericles

    Gotcha. So a shooting at a school only becomes a school shooting when whites are involved. That’s clear now.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Anonymous

    I draw a distinction between shootings in which the shooter intends to get away and one where the shooter is suicidal or fine with life in prison. Most West Side of Chicago shootings where five people are wounded and only one killed are due to the black criminal not sticking around to finish off the wounded because he doesn't want to get caught. Columbine-style mass shootings are different because of their high death counts because the shooters don't care about getting away. They are much, much rarer, but tend to seize the public imagination for obvious reasons. I attribute their growth in numbers since the "I Don't Like Mondays" school shooting in the late 1970s to a declining fear of going to Hell.

    Replies: @AndrewR, @dfordoom

  124. @WowJustWow
    As far as I can tell, white fragility means this: whites live an environment full of all this kafkatrapping -- if they do something, it's evidence of their racism, if they do the opposite, it's evidence of their racism, if they do nothing, it's evidence of their racism, if they advocate antiracism, it's evidence that there must be so much racism inside them they're trying to deflect it -- and they respond, predictably, like somebody in a relationship with a gaslighting emotional abuser. Which is the final, damning piece of evidence that makes their racism undeniable.

    And if they make clear they still wish to appease these lunatics, that's precisely what makes them easy marks for more personalized and insidious bullying.

    The closest analogue that comes to mind is the experience of family members who became involved in, and eventually escaped, Scientology, and how they describe the organization's most effective cult tactic in controlling otherwise intelligent people: your desire to be seen as a decent, moral person is used as a weapon to crush your spirit and your identity and turn you into a sociopath's helpless plaything.

    Replies: @Pericles

    There are two propositions from the Academy of the Fringes:

    1. All whites are racists.

    2. No non-whites are racists.

    From this we can easily prove that

    3. White is exactly the same as racist.

    From that it trivially follows, for example, that anti-racist is anti-white.

    • Agree: Mr. Rational
  125. @peterike
    @Anonymous

    “Are most school shooters white? It’s not white schools that have metal detectors at entrances.”

    There’s a difference between “school shootings” and “shootings in or just outside of school.”

    The first is rare, usually non-black, and gets massive media coverage. The second is routine, nearly always black or Hispanic, and is completely ignored.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Pericles

    The black man, once again defeated by those damn metal detectors.

  126. @Forbes
    @Tyrion 2

    Maybe those of us fair-hued specimens of humanity should ignore the use of "white" or "whites" to describe our identity--and opt for flesh-toned or beige. I, myself, often refer to being pink-toned or pink-skinned, though admittedly peach-colored may be closer to the real thing.

    Then this whole charade of white privilege and white fragility can end up in the dung heap where it belongs.

    Replies: @Pericles

    Then this whole charade of white privilege and white fragility can end up in the dung heap where it belongs.

    Sorry, the attacks won’t stop even if you concede the game.

  127. Anonymous[357] • Disclaimer says:
    @Achmed E. Newman
    @jJay


    Ayn Rand is among the grateful dead.
     
    Whaaaa? Was that before Donna Godchaux? If she wrote any songs the way she wrote novels, I don't think even those 3 1/2 hour shows woulda' cut it.

    Nope, I don't need a woke woman. I'd go for one with rings on her fingers and bells on her shoes, and Scarlet Begonias wrapped up in her curls...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3eZsNPlifSQ

    "Well I ain't often right,
    but I've never been wrong.
    It seldom turns out
    like it does in this song"


    "Once in a while
    you get shown the light
    in the strangest of places,
    if you look at it right."


    (Nope, not Jerry's best lead on this by any means.)

    Replies: @Anonymous

    The whole idea of Objectivist Deadheads sounded so ludicrous I figured it had to actually be a thing, but search engine inquiries show nothing. At last there is SOME nonexistent (but theoretically possible) subgroup of Deadheads in the multiverse.

    Jerry was a great guitarist at one time, but that time was mostly before Workingman’s Dead.

  128. @Anonymous
    @peterike

    Gotcha. So a shooting at a school only becomes a school shooting when whites are involved. That's clear now.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    I draw a distinction between shootings in which the shooter intends to get away and one where the shooter is suicidal or fine with life in prison. Most West Side of Chicago shootings where five people are wounded and only one killed are due to the black criminal not sticking around to finish off the wounded because he doesn’t want to get caught. Columbine-style mass shootings are different because of their high death counts because the shooters don’t care about getting away. They are much, much rarer, but tend to seize the public imagination for obvious reasons. I attribute their growth in numbers since the “I Don’t Like Mondays” school shooting in the late 1970s to a declining fear of going to Hell.

    • Replies: @AndrewR
    @Steve Sailer

    They're still extremely rare, to be honest. I have no doubt that many people, probably well over 10%, have fantasies of mass homicide at least occasionally. And somewhere around 1% of deaths are suicides. So if you don't care about living, the only thing stopping you from going on a rampage is either a lack of desire or a lack of means, but in the US it's easy to attain the means. So it's really astounding that so few people take that plunge, although murder-suicides are much more common than mass-murder/suicides.

    And of course, a shockingly high number of mass shooters do not kill themselves afterwards: Cruz, Holmes, Roof, Breivik, etc (not so fun fact: Holmes and Breivik both shot friends of people I know (in the latter case, fatally) and the Vegas shooter killed a good friend of the daughter of the well-known blogger Rollo Tomassi, whom I've had a fair amount of correspondence with).

    Replies: @snorlax, @Anonymous

    , @dfordoom
    @Steve Sailer


    I attribute their growth in numbers since the “I Don’t Like Mondays” school shooting in the late 1970s to a declining fear of going to Hell.
     
    Their growth in numbers was initially because of “I Don’t Like Mondays” which made the concept incredibly fashionable and incredibly attractive. So it was mainly Bob Geldof's fault.

    As the fear of going to Hell declined the prospect of achieving celebritydom increased.
  129. @Steve Sailer
    @dfordoom

    Oh, yeah, I've been mentioning how America is drifting toward Rule by Actresses, but there is an example of Rule by Actress: China from about 1965-1977 under Mrs. Mao's heavy influence. Paul Johnson said she brought "the spirit of theatrical vendetta" to affairs of state.

    It's not unknown in world history for actress/model/whatevers to wind up with a lot of power: the Empress Theodora, the two Mrs. Perons, etc.

    Replies: @David, @Anonymous, @dfordoom

    Mark Twain quipped that France has usually been governed by prostitutes.

  130. Anonymous[357] • Disclaimer says:
    @Colin Wright
    @Steve Sailer

    She's got a complexion similar to Michelle Wolf -- who is Rumanian-and-something.

    Of course Rumanians proper don't look like that. Gypsy?

    (for a laugh, get the right gentile Rumanian to say 'gypsy.' You wouldn't believe how much meaning can be packed into the enunciation of one word.)

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Romanian

    As an OT aside, does anyone else think that Buddy Rich had to be part Gypsy?

    Surely the only big band bandleader who didn’t read music, Rich would get a new arrangement or a new number and hire a classical percussionist or a studio drummer to walk the band through it and he’d listen to the drum part. Once. After that, for the rest of his life, he could play it perfectly.

    That’s a characteristic some gypsy musicians used to pass some very demanding music education programs in Europe. They could not read music-for that matter, they could not read-but they’d listen once on a readthrough or a recording and then act like they could. They were so good at it the classical programs took a long while to catch on what they were doing.

    Many aspects of his personal behavior seem gypsy-like as well.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Anonymous

    That's not utterly implausible, although I don't see anybody else online theorizing Buddy Rich was anything other than conventionally Jewish.

    Actor Danny Kaye was a frequent celebrity guest conductor of classical orchestras, such as at the Hollywood Bowl, despite not being able to read music. His background was similar to Rich's.

  131. @Steve Sailer
    @dfordoom

    Oh, yeah, I've been mentioning how America is drifting toward Rule by Actresses, but there is an example of Rule by Actress: China from about 1965-1977 under Mrs. Mao's heavy influence. Paul Johnson said she brought "the spirit of theatrical vendetta" to affairs of state.

    It's not unknown in world history for actress/model/whatevers to wind up with a lot of power: the Empress Theodora, the two Mrs. Perons, etc.

    Replies: @David, @Anonymous, @dfordoom

    Paul Johnson said she brought “the spirit of theatrical vendetta” to affairs of state.

    A great phrase that is–and no surprise, coming from Prof. Johnson.

  132. @Anonymous
    @Colin Wright

    As an OT aside, does anyone else think that Buddy Rich had to be part Gypsy?

    Surely the only big band bandleader who didn't read music, Rich would get a new arrangement or a new number and hire a classical percussionist or a studio drummer to walk the band through it and he'd listen to the drum part. Once. After that, for the rest of his life, he could play it perfectly.

    That's a characteristic some gypsy musicians used to pass some very demanding music education programs in Europe. They could not read music-for that matter, they could not read-but they'd listen once on a readthrough or a recording and then act like they could. They were so good at it the classical programs took a long while to catch on what they were doing.

    Many aspects of his personal behavior seem gypsy-like as well.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    That’s not utterly implausible, although I don’t see anybody else online theorizing Buddy Rich was anything other than conventionally Jewish.

    Actor Danny Kaye was a frequent celebrity guest conductor of classical orchestras, such as at the Hollywood Bowl, despite not being able to read music. His background was similar to Rich’s.

  133. @International Jew
    @AndrewR


    I always considered “white privilege” to be a post-Christian analog to “original sin,”
     
    That's a pretty good way of thinking about it, though the analogy breaks down in one respect: original sin is thought to apply to all people everywhere, while white privilege is the burden only one group of people -- white people -- are doomed to carry.

    So I'd say a more accurate analogy is the accusation of having killed Christ. It's like white privilege the way original sin is too, but it's also specific to one group -- Jews.

    In fact, the doctrine of white privilege is like the Christocide libel in other ways. In both cases, the bearers of the curse are invited to discard some of the burden that comes with it: white people are invited to become "allies" (as this Robin DiAngelo has done), just as Jews have been urged to convert to Christianity. But in both cases, the curse is not fully lifted: "woke"/"allied" white people still have to grovel and scrape, and Jews who converted -- including their children and grandchildren -- were still targeted for destruction by the Nazis.

    Replies: @AndrewR, @Eagle Eye, @Buster Keaton’s Stunt Double

    Yeah, it’s amazing how leftists try to convince us to welcome our own displacement/disenfranchisement/dispossession/etc while simultaneously being so free with their hate speech towards us. I am not as hardcore as many WNs (hell, I don’t even identify as WN), but if white nationalism is the only movement that is serious about not letting whites become hated minorities in their own country, then I have no choice but to support white nationalism for the foreseeable future.

    • Agree: Mr. Rational
  134. @Steve Sailer
    @Anonymous

    I draw a distinction between shootings in which the shooter intends to get away and one where the shooter is suicidal or fine with life in prison. Most West Side of Chicago shootings where five people are wounded and only one killed are due to the black criminal not sticking around to finish off the wounded because he doesn't want to get caught. Columbine-style mass shootings are different because of their high death counts because the shooters don't care about getting away. They are much, much rarer, but tend to seize the public imagination for obvious reasons. I attribute their growth in numbers since the "I Don't Like Mondays" school shooting in the late 1970s to a declining fear of going to Hell.

    Replies: @AndrewR, @dfordoom

    They’re still extremely rare, to be honest. I have no doubt that many people, probably well over 10%, have fantasies of mass homicide at least occasionally. And somewhere around 1% of deaths are suicides. So if you don’t care about living, the only thing stopping you from going on a rampage is either a lack of desire or a lack of means, but in the US it’s easy to attain the means. So it’s really astounding that so few people take that plunge, although murder-suicides are much more common than mass-murder/suicides.

    And of course, a shockingly high number of mass shooters do not kill themselves afterwards: Cruz, Holmes, Roof, Breivik, etc (not so fun fact: Holmes and Breivik both shot friends of people I know (in the latter case, fatally) and the Vegas shooter killed a good friend of the daughter of the well-known blogger Rollo Tomassi, whom I’ve had a fair amount of correspondence with).

    • Replies: @snorlax
    @AndrewR


    I have no doubt that many people, probably well over 10%, have fantasies of mass homicide at least occasionally.
     
    Up to an embarrassingly late age (maybe 11), I had a recurring fantasy where my school or house would be attacked by wave after wave of terrorists, and I would, Rambo-like, mow them all down with my curiously unexplained but massive arsenal of machine guns, thereby saving the day. Afterwards everyone would agree that I was the coolest and most super-awesome hero ever.

    Anyway, get help.

    Replies: @AndrewR

    , @Anonymous
    @AndrewR

    Mowing down random strangers in public is the ultimate gouty-toe stomp, to put it in David Hume's term, if the killer genuinely has no vendetta for the victims aside from being less "decisive" than he is. Flipping out in a traffic jam or shooting at the Republican softball team is more relatable even though logically it doesn't advance any personal objective while courting imminent demise. In between these you have the school shootings which are like incoherent terrorism in the amount of planning but like a Camus beach party for being unrooted in any rational thought process, just venting some confused emotional bile bubbling out of a weaker-minded-than-usual loner, yet somehow not interfering with the planning tasks. Such a person might occur more or less commonly in a given society, but is statistically unlikely to proceed with and succeed at anything on an interpersonal level, much less at the scale of a Sandy Hook (more senseless) or Columbine (more terrorism-oriented).

  135. Anonymous[271] • Disclaimer says:

    This DiAngelo chick is an anti-White White. Me? I’m an anti-anti-White White.

    … the distinctly white-American dream that one writes one’s own destiny …

    These days, that could only be considered a dream in the George Carlin sense: “you’d have to be asleep to believe it.”

    George Carlin–now there was a ‘White supremacist’!

  136. At the risk of “white-splaining”, let me remind all of the POC that IF YOU BUILD A CIVILIZATION AND INVENT THINGS, YOU GET TO NAME THEM.

    Too bad blacks could not even have invented crayons so that “skin tone” could be darker.

  137. @Colin Wright
    @Cagey Beast

    '...the anti-White man stuff every single day...'

    The weird thing is why are we getting this poisonous, useless, utterly false stuff at all? What conceivable good or even truth could come of it?

    It's like everyone's earnestly recommending drinking a cup of hot bleach first thing every morning. I just don't see the up side. Even if, as an abstract proposition, someone had an authentic grievance, how is this supposed to address it?

    Replies: @dfordoom, @CCZ, @Anonymous, @Paco Wové

    I assume the function is to keep the white majority constantly on eggshells, self-censoring, submissive, and in retreat. At least until it is no longer a majority.

  138. The claws would really come out if she and Tim Wise were invited to the same mixed-race cocktail party. Like having a couple of poets or interpretive dance instructors in the same room.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    @Elmer T. Jones


    Like having a poet or interpretive dance instructor in the room.
     
    FIFY.
  139. @Song For the Deaf
    So I read the article. The women’s entire life’s work depends on white people being afraid to public ally admit they are self-interested. All you would have to do to demolish her entire thesis is being unashamedly, tribally self-interested. She would have nothing to say to that.

    Replies: @Forbes, @Hunsdon

    I think you’re overlooking all the pointing and shrieking she’d be doing.

  140. @candid_observer
    OT a bit,

    Bret Stephens performs his usual ritual cuck at the Times, defending the honor of Sarah Jeong:

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/09/opinion/sarah-jeong-tweets-opinion-section.html

    What's interesting is the overwhelming number of comments critical of the column and the Times in the Readers' Picks.

    When you've lost the readership of the Times...

    Replies: @Cagey Beast, @Charles Erwin Wilson, @RonaldB, @stillCARealist, @Frau Katze

    Actually the Bret Stevens column seems well researched and reasonable, whether you agree with his conclusion that Sarah Jeong is a net asset to the NYT or not.

    Back to topic, though, imagine the witch Robin DiAngelo giving a “racism” seminar, using her load of cant and smoke to harass line workers, whose main sin was to actually produce something of value rather than write or read volumes of post-modern, non-logical cultural Marxist doggerel.

    • Replies: @JerseyJeffersonian
    @RonaldB

    If ever your scenario of white line workers being forced to sit through a torture session of listening to this woman were to occur, I expect that, besides some foot shuffling & eye rolling, they would sit there & take it. Hopefully, they would find out who arranged it and who approved it and slash their tires as a token of their appreciation. Nothing flashy, just an ice pick through all 4 sidewalls.

    But it is unlkely that this would happen since these white line workers, being Deplorables, would already be written off. The real target audience would be management assholes who would get the message that in order to get promoted, they would have to display anti-white racism. They'd get right to it. Particularly as they could use their wokeness as a weapon in their intra-managerial politics. But the real damage would occur in their hiring practices, as incompetent, featherbedding members of the Coalition of the Fringes would be hired as tokens in the virtue signaling of the intra-managerial politics. The fun really begins then, since no matter how clueless these hires are, you can't then get rid of them.

    Replies: @Rosamond Vincy

  141. @Mr. Blank
    I also liked how the article blandly throws out this bit about

    these so-called pillars of whiteness: assumptions that prop up racist beliefs without our realizing it. Such ideologies include individualism, or the distinctly white-American dream that one writes one’s own destiny, and objectivity, the confidence that one can free oneself entirely from bias.
     
    "Individualism" and "objectivity" are honky "ideologies." Of course, the opposite of an individual who thinks objectively is a raging mob. So that's...what we should strive for? Huh?

    I wonder if these people ever bother to really think about this crap, or if they just string trendy words together to come up with new ways of explaining "white = bad." It reminds me of Theodore Dalrymple's explanation of the purpose of propaganda.

    Replies: @jJay, @RonaldB, @slumber_j, @Anon, @TomSchmidt, @Rosamond Vincy

    From personal experience with a member of a feminist, academic coven, (and I use the word very knowingly), I can say that basic leftist assumptions are never, ever critiqued, or even discussed. If you want to see real “fragility”, try using economic or race-realist logic on a leftist.

    • Replies: @Anon
    @RonaldB


    I can say that basic leftist assumptions are never,
     
    Can you list some of the basic leftist assumptions and describe what critiques you have made of them?

    Replies: @RonaldB

  142. @Anon
    "Spike Lee’s BlacKKKlansman."

    Synopsis: black director accused of antisemitism back in the 90s makes a movie about an unlikely Jewish detective and a black guy going under cover to fight David Duke, a guy who just so happens to have renounced his racist views in favor of becoming a pro-Palestinian activist and a 9/11 truther who thinks Israel was in on the plot. A greater apology letter there has never been. 9/10. Nominate this thing for best picture and best screenplay.

    Replies: @Hunsdon

    Nominate it? Y U so raciss? Just give it the damn awards, already.

  143. @syonredux

    Robin J. DiAngelo (born September 8, 1956)[1] is an American academic, lecturer, and author working in the fields of critical discourse analysis and whiteness studies. She is a part-time lecturer at the University of Washington, and formerly served as a tenured professor of multicultural education at Westfield State University. She is known for her work pertaining to white fragility, a term which she coined in 2011.
     

    DiAngelo received her Ph.D. in multicultural education from the University of Washington in 2004, with a dissertation entitled "Whiteness in racial dialogue: a discourse analysis".[2]
     

    Her Ph.D. committee was chaired by James A. Banks.[3] In 2007, she joined the faculty of Westfield State University,[4] where she was named a tenured professor of multicultural education in 2014. She later resigned from her position at Westfield.[3] She has since become a part-time lecturer at the University of Washington's School of Social Work,[5] from which she has received two Student’s Choice Awards for Educator of the Year.[6] In addition to teaching classes, she frequently gives seminars discussing racism, which she argues is embedded throughout America's political systems and culture.[7] As of February 2017, she was also the director of Equity for Sound Generations in Seattle, Washington.
     

    DiAngelo is known for her work regarding "white fragility", a term she coined in a 2011 peer-reviewed paper.[9][10][11] She has defined the concept of white fragility as "a state in which even a minimum amount of racial stress becomes intolerable, triggering a range of defensive moves." As of 2016, she regularly gives workshops on the topic.

     

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robin_DiAngelo




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    Replies: @Cagey Beast, @Achmed E. Newman, @Ghost of Bull Moose, @Luke Lea, @Cato, @Charles Erwin Wilson, @Iberiano, @Frau Katze, @TomSchmidt

    It’s all “heads you lose, tails I win” stuff anyhow. If (and when) whites do speak about race, openly, brazenly, and in the case of defending whites, unapologetically, we then get called racist anyway.

    The actually point is to keep us in a state of discomfort, in that sense “fragile”. Never sure if our polite refrain from discussion will signal that we don’t care, or are not engaged, or on the other hand, our active engagement with some black or brown will lead to more than just being called a “racist” but instead, sensitivity training, or even firing.

    The entire current century framework is created and maintained to keep whites in a state of fear. She is simply adding to the body of work.

    • Agree: Mr. Rational
  144. @Song For the Deaf
    Let’s face it, white female tears turn them on. They may hate white men but white women they hold in contempt. It’s safe to say the male half of the Coalition of the Resentful harbors half-concealed white rape fantasies and the non-white female half is at least semi-aware of it.

    Anyway, I love stuff like this and hope we see more and more of it. I know of no other way to wake white women up. Somebody needs to explain to them just how weak and coddled everybody thinks they are.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @RonaldB

    This is the Leninist thinking: “things have to get worse in order to get better”. I’m not accusing you of being sympathetic to Lenin, but would like to submit that a long-suffering, docile population is going to stay docile and suffering. Making things worse will just make things worse. What you really have to do is teach the power of individual thought, integrity and responsibility. It’s OK to be an unconsciously-complicit racist because your black “victims” are the ones who choose either victimhood or self-reliance.

    Now, for sure, some of the blacks start life with a pretty bad deck: no father present, mother unemployed and on welfare, no self-sufficient males in sight, and only gang members for shared values, plus a low-IQ and inability to delay gratification. So, there is a certain truth to the “white privilege” fantasy, but the real villain is not microscopic racism, but the dissolution of the black community. I do feel that my comfortable circumstances are due far more to circumstances I was born into or born with than my own personal efforts, but unfortunately, the differences between myself and, say, the black gang member, cannot be resolved bringing down whites and guilt-bombing them. but by sensible measures such as ending welfare, intense and severe policing of black areas, ending social services and ending support of out-of-work, out-of-luck unmarried mothers.

  145. @AndrewR
    @Steve Sailer

    They're still extremely rare, to be honest. I have no doubt that many people, probably well over 10%, have fantasies of mass homicide at least occasionally. And somewhere around 1% of deaths are suicides. So if you don't care about living, the only thing stopping you from going on a rampage is either a lack of desire or a lack of means, but in the US it's easy to attain the means. So it's really astounding that so few people take that plunge, although murder-suicides are much more common than mass-murder/suicides.

    And of course, a shockingly high number of mass shooters do not kill themselves afterwards: Cruz, Holmes, Roof, Breivik, etc (not so fun fact: Holmes and Breivik both shot friends of people I know (in the latter case, fatally) and the Vegas shooter killed a good friend of the daughter of the well-known blogger Rollo Tomassi, whom I've had a fair amount of correspondence with).

    Replies: @snorlax, @Anonymous

    I have no doubt that many people, probably well over 10%, have fantasies of mass homicide at least occasionally.

    Up to an embarrassingly late age (maybe 11), I had a recurring fantasy where my school or house would be attacked by wave after wave of terrorists, and I would, Rambo-like, mow them all down with my curiously unexplained but massive arsenal of machine guns, thereby saving the day. Afterwards everyone would agree that I was the coolest and most super-awesome hero ever.

    Anyway, get help.

    • Replies: @AndrewR
    @snorlax

    It's a leap to conclude I included myself in that 10%, but, regardless, telling someone simply to "get help" has never helped anyone. Angry and/or mentally ill people need to be treated with compassion and humility, not smug pseudo-advice.

  146. @Mr. Blank
    I also liked how the article blandly throws out this bit about

    these so-called pillars of whiteness: assumptions that prop up racist beliefs without our realizing it. Such ideologies include individualism, or the distinctly white-American dream that one writes one’s own destiny, and objectivity, the confidence that one can free oneself entirely from bias.
     
    "Individualism" and "objectivity" are honky "ideologies." Of course, the opposite of an individual who thinks objectively is a raging mob. So that's...what we should strive for? Huh?

    I wonder if these people ever bother to really think about this crap, or if they just string trendy words together to come up with new ways of explaining "white = bad." It reminds me of Theodore Dalrymple's explanation of the purpose of propaganda.

    Replies: @jJay, @RonaldB, @slumber_j, @Anon, @TomSchmidt, @Rosamond Vincy

    As a sociologist trained in mapping group patterns, DiAngelo can’t help but regard both precepts as naïve (at best) and arrogant (at worst).

    No. If DiAngelo is a sociologist, she must regard both precepts as phenomena. It’s in some other capacity that she starts ascribing negative qualities to them.

    So that’s bullshit.

  147. @Anon
    "Could all this Becky-bashing be Democrats preparing to admit that Hillary was a mistake?"

    She wants to run again, guaranteed. They'll lay the ground work to make sure that doesn't happen. That's part of what this is about. It's not a coincidence that all this Becky stuff has accelerated from the moment Drudge started whispering about another Hillary run; they're itching to go full on anti-white racist and 2020 may be the year they drop pretenses and do it. Since white feminists couldn't deliver last time, the woke coalition is coming to see them as dispensable.

    Replies: @Iberiano, @Rosamond Vincy

    Yes, perhaps as a side-benefit, but the “becky” bashing is merely the dark forces of the race industry essentially “catching up” with some past oversights while roaming the countryside looking for racists–primarily because the demographic shift to even more non-whites, gives the bigots an opportunity to now go after their prior den mothers–white women. White women were always, as a matter of race reconciliation, on “the list”…and the author of this book is no exception (she just hopes to be eaten last). I sometimes wonder if such liberal whites are basically trolling…knowingly standing up and ensuring everyone sees they are indeed, the very.last.white.clapping.

    Our entire nation’s direction is based upon, ultimately, what is best for white women, so I think that as the narrative shifts to attacking them, we will see white women give “permission” for white men and the culture at large, to protect them (via legislation, cultural cues, polices and yes, even physically). Right now, we are in the tenuous moment where being to “out” could still be a problem–but that will fade as the attacks increase and their (WW) safety net and physical, digital and emotional zones are violated.

    • Replies: @Anon
    @Iberiano


    Our entire nation’s direction is based upon, ultimately, what is best for white women,
     
    No, our entire nation's direction is based upon what is best for Jews.
  148. @Cagey Beast
    @syonredux

    I wish these women were forced to wear a hat or necklace to tell all the White people she encounters what she thinks of them. Do the Whites she rubs shoulders with out there in Washington state know she makes a living training cultural saboteurs? When she gets her kitchen renovated, goes to the farmers' market or goes antiquing, do the little Whites know she hates them? Talk about White privilege.

    Replies: @Iberiano

    Typically dyed hair (green, blue, pink, ugly red) is an indicator. Although, upper class anti-white white women rarely do so.

    While your question is a good one, I think the reality is, the author hates that she has to live in the same bubble she is complaining about. As we all have seen over the last few decades, much of this is a self-disclosed Rorschach test. She doesn’t really hate white people–although obviously that doesn’t matter given her work product–she is projecting.

  149. @snorlax
    @AndrewR


    I have no doubt that many people, probably well over 10%, have fantasies of mass homicide at least occasionally.
     
    Up to an embarrassingly late age (maybe 11), I had a recurring fantasy where my school or house would be attacked by wave after wave of terrorists, and I would, Rambo-like, mow them all down with my curiously unexplained but massive arsenal of machine guns, thereby saving the day. Afterwards everyone would agree that I was the coolest and most super-awesome hero ever.

    Anyway, get help.

    Replies: @AndrewR

    It’s a leap to conclude I included myself in that 10%, but, regardless, telling someone simply to “get help” has never helped anyone. Angry and/or mentally ill people need to be treated with compassion and humility, not smug pseudo-advice.

  150. Given that uni educated white women are voting Democratic in record numbers one can only assume:

    1. They love the denigration of other white woke women because now they can feel superior to other woke, but not as woke, white women in addition to bad whites.

    2. They are simply too stupid to understand the extent the rest of the Coalition of the Fringes hates them.

    3. Some combination of the two

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @TheBoom

    Graduating from college doesn't make you prettier or more popular (no matter what the corporate/Benneton campus brochures imply about it) so the alumnae will settle for being morally superior-- crucial to justify why your salary in your worthless HR/schmoozing career is 2% or 3% more than the non-collegiate gal's for doing the same job.

    And by the way, the New Yorker article is the worst written thing I've witnessed them publish. It makes me yearn for the comparative brio of a new Vox post.

  151. @candid_observer
    OT a bit,

    Bret Stephens performs his usual ritual cuck at the Times, defending the honor of Sarah Jeong:

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/09/opinion/sarah-jeong-tweets-opinion-section.html

    What's interesting is the overwhelming number of comments critical of the column and the Times in the Readers' Picks.

    When you've lost the readership of the Times...

    Replies: @Cagey Beast, @Charles Erwin Wilson, @RonaldB, @stillCARealist, @Frau Katze

    Apparently I’ve reached the limit of my free NYT articles, which is weird because I intentionally never click there. I only tried this time to see the comments you talked about.

    Today is going to be a good day.

  152. This opportunistic broad is obviously just setting herself up as the role of “Rescuer” in the Karpman Drama Triangle of “social justice”.

    All revolutions eat their children though. What I wouldn’t give to see her being paraded in a town square with a dunce cap on her head and a computer in her hands being hectored by young zealots demanding, “Confess your crime!”

  153. Fortunately, Spike Lee’s BlacKKKlansman is premiering this weekend

    Stylized with a lowercase k in the middle: BlacKkKlansman

  154. @Steve Sailer
    @Anonymous

    Yes.

    I intend to use both fairly interchangeably and see if either one ever enters common usage.

    I am not optimistic, but whaddaya whaddaya?

    Replies: @Ghost of Bull Moose, @Elsewhere, @MBlanc46

    Fringe is better because is suggests agency on the part of the people becoming fringe. People choose to pursue fringe interests, cultivate fringe identities, etc. Think of the New York International Fringe Festival.

    Margin suggests the agency is on those at those at the core, marginalizing the others. No one chooses to go to the margin, but many people would cherish being considered fringe for the right reasons.

  155. @candid_observer
    OT a bit,

    Bret Stephens performs his usual ritual cuck at the Times, defending the honor of Sarah Jeong:

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/09/opinion/sarah-jeong-tweets-opinion-section.html

    What's interesting is the overwhelming number of comments critical of the column and the Times in the Readers' Picks.

    When you've lost the readership of the Times...

    Replies: @Cagey Beast, @Charles Erwin Wilson, @RonaldB, @stillCARealist, @Frau Katze

    Bret Stephens’ hope was that by leaving WSJ for NYT, he could avoid nasty comments from Trump-supporting readers.

    I’ve read through the comments on several of columns. His first column, on his skeptic take on human-caused climate change, generated floods of angry comments.

    I can’t see the old WSJ Stephens supporting Sarah Jeong.

    He must be getting desperate to find readers somewhere somehow who appreciate him.

    But even with the column on Jeong, there was no shortage of negative comments, including at least one who was cancelling his/her subscription.

    • Replies: @Eagle Eye
    @Frau Katze


    [Mexico-raised pseudo-American Bret Stephens] must be getting desperate to find readers somewhere somehow who appreciate him.
     
    Don't know. Do prostitutes "get desperate to to find" admirers somewhere somehow who appreciate them? Don't they just do a well-defined job to satisfy whoever will pay them?
  156. @syonredux

    Robin J. DiAngelo (born September 8, 1956)[1] is an American academic, lecturer, and author working in the fields of critical discourse analysis and whiteness studies. She is a part-time lecturer at the University of Washington, and formerly served as a tenured professor of multicultural education at Westfield State University. She is known for her work pertaining to white fragility, a term which she coined in 2011.
     

    DiAngelo received her Ph.D. in multicultural education from the University of Washington in 2004, with a dissertation entitled "Whiteness in racial dialogue: a discourse analysis".[2]
     

    Her Ph.D. committee was chaired by James A. Banks.[3] In 2007, she joined the faculty of Westfield State University,[4] where she was named a tenured professor of multicultural education in 2014. She later resigned from her position at Westfield.[3] She has since become a part-time lecturer at the University of Washington's School of Social Work,[5] from which she has received two Student’s Choice Awards for Educator of the Year.[6] In addition to teaching classes, she frequently gives seminars discussing racism, which she argues is embedded throughout America's political systems and culture.[7] As of February 2017, she was also the director of Equity for Sound Generations in Seattle, Washington.
     

    DiAngelo is known for her work regarding "white fragility", a term she coined in a 2011 peer-reviewed paper.[9][10][11] She has defined the concept of white fragility as "a state in which even a minimum amount of racial stress becomes intolerable, triggering a range of defensive moves." As of 2016, she regularly gives workshops on the topic.

     

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robin_DiAngelo




    https://westerntoday.wwu.edu/files/FavRe.jpeg

    Replies: @Cagey Beast, @Achmed E. Newman, @Ghost of Bull Moose, @Luke Lea, @Cato, @Charles Erwin Wilson, @Iberiano, @Frau Katze, @TomSchmidt

    DiAngelo has made being anti-white her whole career. Just another person living off “diversity”.

  157. @Mr. Blank
    Steve, you missed the best part of the article:

    To be perceived as an individual, to not be associated with anything negative because of your skin color, she notes, is a privilege largely afforded to white people; although most school shooters, domestic terrorists, and rapists in the United States are white,
     
    Haven Monahan strikes again!

    Replies: @syonredux, @Stan d Mute, @Sammler, @TomSchmidt

    One wonders if she considers prison rape in the statistics?

  158. Anon[277] • Disclaimer says:

    “Whether by direct cultural transmission or by convergent cultural evolution, the most au courant Diversity Trainers in Current Year America sound much like traditional African witch doctors.”

    It’s a benefit of diversity: stale White ideas of magick are replaced by vibrant African ones. Sort of like White husbands are being replaced by black ones in ads.

  159. @syonredux

    Robin J. DiAngelo (born September 8, 1956)[1] is an American academic, lecturer, and author working in the fields of critical discourse analysis and whiteness studies. She is a part-time lecturer at the University of Washington, and formerly served as a tenured professor of multicultural education at Westfield State University. She is known for her work pertaining to white fragility, a term which she coined in 2011.
     

    DiAngelo received her Ph.D. in multicultural education from the University of Washington in 2004, with a dissertation entitled "Whiteness in racial dialogue: a discourse analysis".[2]
     

    Her Ph.D. committee was chaired by James A. Banks.[3] In 2007, she joined the faculty of Westfield State University,[4] where she was named a tenured professor of multicultural education in 2014. She later resigned from her position at Westfield.[3] She has since become a part-time lecturer at the University of Washington's School of Social Work,[5] from which she has received two Student’s Choice Awards for Educator of the Year.[6] In addition to teaching classes, she frequently gives seminars discussing racism, which she argues is embedded throughout America's political systems and culture.[7] As of February 2017, she was also the director of Equity for Sound Generations in Seattle, Washington.
     

    DiAngelo is known for her work regarding "white fragility", a term she coined in a 2011 peer-reviewed paper.[9][10][11] She has defined the concept of white fragility as "a state in which even a minimum amount of racial stress becomes intolerable, triggering a range of defensive moves." As of 2016, she regularly gives workshops on the topic.

     

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robin_DiAngelo




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    In 2007, she joined the faculty of Westfield State University,[4] where she was named a tenured professor of multicultural education in 2014. She later resigned from her position at Westfield.

    NO one resigns from a tenured position to do the sort of ad-hoc work that DiAngelo does. Westfield State is a mostly white working class campus. What’s the betting she resigned rather than be fired for violating some school rule, or foroppressing students?

    • Replies: @Fabian Forge
    @TomSchmidt

    I'm sure she makes way way more money teaming up with corporate Diversity VP's to shake down corporations for that sweet diversity cash than she ever did in academe. Give the woman some credit - she's an entrepreneur!

    Replies: @TomSchmidt, @TomSchmidt

    , @Alden
    @TomSchmidt

    I hope she was fired because some racist black brown red yellow critter sued podunk college for hiring a White to teach multicultural brainwashing

    Conservatives need to realize that it’s capitalist businesses who hire these POSs to harangue the employees and lower productivity by wasting time in these struggle sessions. Corporations want employees to eat lunch at their desks, work to 7 or 8 at night, come in on Saturdays, work at home on weekends. 60 or 70 hours of work for 40 hours pay

    So why are corporations devoting all this time to anti White brainwashing sessions.?

  160. Anon[277] • Disclaimer says:
    @Mr. Blank
    I also liked how the article blandly throws out this bit about

    these so-called pillars of whiteness: assumptions that prop up racist beliefs without our realizing it. Such ideologies include individualism, or the distinctly white-American dream that one writes one’s own destiny, and objectivity, the confidence that one can free oneself entirely from bias.
     
    "Individualism" and "objectivity" are honky "ideologies." Of course, the opposite of an individual who thinks objectively is a raging mob. So that's...what we should strive for? Huh?

    I wonder if these people ever bother to really think about this crap, or if they just string trendy words together to come up with new ways of explaining "white = bad." It reminds me of Theodore Dalrymple's explanation of the purpose of propaganda.

    Replies: @jJay, @RonaldB, @slumber_j, @Anon, @TomSchmidt, @Rosamond Vincy

    “I wonder if these people ever bother to really think about this crap, or if they just string trendy words together to come up with new ways of explaining “white = bad.” ”

    Right, but even that is too “intentional”. Notice how “argumentation” is racist too? See, they only string words together in an endless stream, each one “good” and PC, and the purpose, such as it is, is to virtue signal their goodthinking. Blah blah blah whiteness blah blah intersectionality etc.

    This what all prog academic writing or political speech is. Orwell called it “duckspeaking”.

  161. @Mr. Blank
    I also liked how the article blandly throws out this bit about

    these so-called pillars of whiteness: assumptions that prop up racist beliefs without our realizing it. Such ideologies include individualism, or the distinctly white-American dream that one writes one’s own destiny, and objectivity, the confidence that one can free oneself entirely from bias.
     
    "Individualism" and "objectivity" are honky "ideologies." Of course, the opposite of an individual who thinks objectively is a raging mob. So that's...what we should strive for? Huh?

    I wonder if these people ever bother to really think about this crap, or if they just string trendy words together to come up with new ways of explaining "white = bad." It reminds me of Theodore Dalrymple's explanation of the purpose of propaganda.

    Replies: @jJay, @RonaldB, @slumber_j, @Anon, @TomSchmidt, @Rosamond Vincy

    Of course, the opposite of an individual who thinks objectively is a raging mob. So that’s…what we should strive for? Huh?

    The German Männer Sippe is not a raging mob, but an example of a voluntary group that preserves society. The stopped clock Professor is right this time: individualism is a toxic white ideology that will kill any people that attempts it in the face of other united groups.

    It is exactly what we will wind up with, if perhaps not strive for, if European Americans are to survive. As wise Lee Kwan Yew wrote… well, look it up.

    • Replies: @Anon
    @TomSchmidt


    As wise Lee Kwan Yew wrote… well, look it up.
     
    Could you please cite?

    Replies: @TomSchmidt

  162. @CCZ
    @Song For the Deaf

    But, like the new, improved, and enhanced definition of racism as practiced only by those who have power and privilege, ("blacks can't be racists because they are not the oppressor"), neither blacks, Jews, nor females (except when they act white) hold any "power" or "privilege" and, therefore, can not be "defensive" or "fragile" about something that they do not have.

    Although this story about a pair of homosexual males and a pair of black females fighting for control of an urban neighborhood association and affiliated community garden (and resorting to actual violence and a "Molotov cocktail"!!) seems to show some "fragility" when representatives of two of the "oppressed" groups challenge each other for power. Let's see who ultimately wins this contest, homosexuals or blacks.

    "How a feud over a community garden turned violent and 'bizarre'."

    https://www.nj.com/hudson/index.ssf/2018/08/astor_place_neighborhood_dispute_story.html#incart_m-rpt-2

    Replies: @Jus' Sayin'..., @Anon, @Frau Katze

    Forget “The Homo & The Negro,” now it’s Homo VS Negro.

  163. @CCZ
    @Song For the Deaf

    But, like the new, improved, and enhanced definition of racism as practiced only by those who have power and privilege, ("blacks can't be racists because they are not the oppressor"), neither blacks, Jews, nor females (except when they act white) hold any "power" or "privilege" and, therefore, can not be "defensive" or "fragile" about something that they do not have.

    Although this story about a pair of homosexual males and a pair of black females fighting for control of an urban neighborhood association and affiliated community garden (and resorting to actual violence and a "Molotov cocktail"!!) seems to show some "fragility" when representatives of two of the "oppressed" groups challenge each other for power. Let's see who ultimately wins this contest, homosexuals or blacks.

    "How a feud over a community garden turned violent and 'bizarre'."

    https://www.nj.com/hudson/index.ssf/2018/08/astor_place_neighborhood_dispute_story.html#incart_m-rpt-2

    Replies: @Jus' Sayin'..., @Anon, @Frau Katze

    The KKKrazy Glue came unstuck!

  164. @TomSchmidt
    @syonredux

    In 2007, she joined the faculty of Westfield State University,[4] where she was named a tenured professor of multicultural education in 2014. She later resigned from her position at Westfield.

    NO one resigns from a tenured position to do the sort of ad-hoc work that DiAngelo does. Westfield State is a mostly white working class campus. What's the betting she resigned rather than be fired for violating some school rule, or foroppressing students?

    Replies: @Fabian Forge, @Alden

    I’m sure she makes way way more money teaming up with corporate Diversity VP’s to shake down corporations for that sweet diversity cash than she ever did in academe. Give the woman some credit – she’s an entrepreneur!

    • LOL: Mr. Rational
    • Replies: @TomSchmidt
    @Fabian Forge

    As a Massachusetts state employee, you can look up her salary and tell us what she made, I think that that would be eminently worth it.

    Her final salary in 2015 would be listed here:
    https://www.masslive.com/politics/index.ssf/2016/02/massachusetts_state_employee_salaries_2016.html

    Inquiring minds want to know!

    , @TomSchmidt
    @Fabian Forge

    Looks like she lied. I just checked 2015,and no salary for her. Checking 2014, she made about 60k.

    See for yourself:
    https://b2.caspio.com/dp/f6321000be812d67f502478bb70e

    DiAngelo, Robin J Westfield State University Associate Professor $60,492.00 $66,526.00

    Records 1-1 of 1
    The first column is 2014 earnings, the second 2013.

    Replies: @Rosamond Vincy

  165. Anonymous [AKA "Phoenix White Guy"] says:

    I wonder where she lives. A lily white gated community, perhaps?

  166. @TomSchmidt
    @Mr. Blank

    Of course, the opposite of an individual who thinks objectively is a raging mob. So that’s…what we should strive for? Huh?

    The German Männer Sippe is not a raging mob, but an example of a voluntary group that preserves society. The stopped clock Professor is right this time: individualism is a toxic white ideology that will kill any people that attempts it in the face of other united groups.

    It is exactly what we will wind up with, if perhaps not strive for, if European Americans are to survive. As wise Lee Kwan Yew wrote... well, look it up.

    Replies: @Anon

    As wise Lee Kwan Yew wrote… well, look it up.

    Could you please cite?

    • Replies: @TomSchmidt
    @Anon

    https://vdare.com/posts/remembering-lee-kuan-yew-and-his-warning-for-america

  167. Anonymous[133] • Disclaimer says:
    @TheBoom
    Given that uni educated white women are voting Democratic in record numbers one can only assume:

    1. They love the denigration of other white woke women because now they can feel superior to other woke, but not as woke, white women in addition to bad whites.

    2. They are simply too stupid to understand the extent the rest of the Coalition of the Fringes hates them.

    3. Some combination of the two

    Replies: @Anonymous

    Graduating from college doesn’t make you prettier or more popular (no matter what the corporate/Benneton campus brochures imply about it) so the alumnae will settle for being morally superior– crucial to justify why your salary in your worthless HR/schmoozing career is 2% or 3% more than the non-collegiate gal’s for doing the same job.

    And by the way, the New Yorker article is the worst written thing I’ve witnessed them publish. It makes me yearn for the comparative brio of a new Vox post.

  168. >twenty years of running workshops

    That’s where I stopped reading.

    “Sociologist” is a career isomeric in all but a few particulars with “astrologist.”

    Or in this case “party planner.”

  169. @CCZ
    @Anonymous

    Who is the “fragile” one here?


    Marblehead [MA] residents discuss white fragility at Abbot Library. (June 21, 2017)

    “...36 people gathered at the Abbot Library to have an open conversation about implicit bias and white fragility in the second installment of the Marblehead Racial Justice Team's "Conversations on Race," discussion series.”

    “Team member Nikki Moore gave an example to illustrate white fragility, which is "a state in which even a minimum amount of racial stress becomes intolerable, triggering a range of defensive moves," according to Dr. Robin DiAngelo.”

    “Moore gave a scenario in which she walks through Abbot Hall and tells her white friend that the pictures of white men make her uncomfortable. The friend might react defensively, saying things like, "I didn't do that" or "my ancestors weren't slave masters."
     
    “pictures of white men [in a library] make her uncomfortable.” Who is the truly fragile one in this example?

    Replies: @Anna Pavlova

    I agree completely.

    It’s both amusing and disturbing that DiAngelo and those employed by the diversity gravy train so obviously misuse the definition of words. This is almost funnier than the phony buzzwords they create. I guess ‘white fragility’ counts as both a buzzword phrase, and a change in what the word fragility actually means…

    So… what of ‘microaggressions’ then? Would not taking umbrage against minor, unintentional, perceived slights count as ‘black fragility’ (as in the example you quote)? We’re constantly badgered with stories of how such microaggressions make living anywhere near white people so horrific for POC (even as they clamor for more access to white, or perceived-white spaces). They must be very fragile indeed….

    The act of defending yourself via argumentation, or any lack of deference, is considered ‘fragility’ (but only for whitey, of course). Having a backbone and enough fortitude to go against the grain = fragility. Okay then.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Anna Pavlova

    And yet, they have you--us--constantly on the defensive. Always reacting, picking at their arguments. Parrying but never thrusting.

  170. @Elmer T. Jones
    The claws would really come out if she and Tim Wise were invited to the same mixed-race cocktail party. Like having a couple of poets or interpretive dance instructors in the same room.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

    Like having a poet or interpretive dance instructor in the room.

    FIFY.

  171. Anonymous[133] • Disclaimer says:
    @Tyrion 2

    so that they fall to pieces at the first application of stress—such as, for instance, when someone suggests that “flesh-toned” may not be an appropriate name for a beige crayon
     
    The horrifying legacy of "beige" people having invented cool things like crayons.

    Replies: @ThreeCranes, @Forbes, @Anonymous

    I always took the “flesh tone” designation as a reference from 9th grade art history — the actual color the crayon produces is not some scientific chromatic index of a white oppressor’s epidermis, but resembles the exposed quarters of incompletely-clothed figures in certain Baroque masters like Rubens (very fleshy indeed). So it’s a useful name if you know that history, but if you don’t the crayon might as well be called “jiggly” or “Bubblicious” or “monkey dishwasher.” Nothing prevents them from putting PANTONE digits on the markers, just to make kids’ lives even more data-sanitized, the better to merge them into the social info-system analytics. Likewise, nothing prevents them from calling the crayons whatever they want, maybe even improving it– Crayola has “yellow green” and “green yellow” options with no apparent basis other than poor imagination on the designer’s part.

    What’s the consternation anyway, with how we’ve named crayons or make-up products? It’s so silly that I have to believe it’s emotional displacement for NAM girls who are insecurely complected (not unheard of among the white population, as countless ineffective Clearisil and Noxzema-branded offerings would suggest).

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Anonymous

    "Likewise, nothing prevents them from calling the crayons whatever they want, maybe even improving it– Crayola has “yellow green” and “green yellow” options with no apparent basis other than poor imagination on the designer’s part."

    The fashion world long ago advanced far beyond Crayola in naming. I remember about 30 years ago flipping through a mail order clothing catalog and seeing vivid names for color like "algae."

    The precision of naming stuff has gone way up. For example, the only modern computer game I've played is Fallout about 12 years ago. You start off by designing your character including picking from about 200 facial hair styles, each with a strikingly well-chosen name, such as Gettysburg or Little Big Horn, that I recognized as appropriate, but that I never would have guessed before hand.

    Replies: @Romanian, @NickG

  172. Anonymous[133] • Disclaimer says:
    @AndrewR
    @Steve Sailer

    They're still extremely rare, to be honest. I have no doubt that many people, probably well over 10%, have fantasies of mass homicide at least occasionally. And somewhere around 1% of deaths are suicides. So if you don't care about living, the only thing stopping you from going on a rampage is either a lack of desire or a lack of means, but in the US it's easy to attain the means. So it's really astounding that so few people take that plunge, although murder-suicides are much more common than mass-murder/suicides.

    And of course, a shockingly high number of mass shooters do not kill themselves afterwards: Cruz, Holmes, Roof, Breivik, etc (not so fun fact: Holmes and Breivik both shot friends of people I know (in the latter case, fatally) and the Vegas shooter killed a good friend of the daughter of the well-known blogger Rollo Tomassi, whom I've had a fair amount of correspondence with).

    Replies: @snorlax, @Anonymous

    Mowing down random strangers in public is the ultimate gouty-toe stomp, to put it in David Hume’s term, if the killer genuinely has no vendetta for the victims aside from being less “decisive” than he is. Flipping out in a traffic jam or shooting at the Republican softball team is more relatable even though logically it doesn’t advance any personal objective while courting imminent demise. In between these you have the school shootings which are like incoherent terrorism in the amount of planning but like a Camus beach party for being unrooted in any rational thought process, just venting some confused emotional bile bubbling out of a weaker-minded-than-usual loner, yet somehow not interfering with the planning tasks. Such a person might occur more or less commonly in a given society, but is statistically unlikely to proceed with and succeed at anything on an interpersonal level, much less at the scale of a Sandy Hook (more senseless) or Columbine (more terrorism-oriented).

  173. @Achmed E. Newman
    @CCZ

    I hate to start something here, as I kinda like the Cat in the Hat, agitator though he is. I will tell you that the worry-wart goldfish in the videos is named Karlos K. Krinklebine.

    OK, maybe it's Carlos. Yeah, we don't need "K", when we've got the hard-"C". We should be good ... till the arrival of the Coo Clux Clan.

    Replies: @CCZ

    You have discovered the hidden “code” that must certainly prove Dr. Seuss was a racist.

    Remember when the librarian for Cambridgeport Elementary School in Massachusetts, Liz Phipps Soeiro, rejected a shipment of 10 Dr. Seuss books from Trump, writing: “Another fact that many people are unaware of is that Dr. Seuss’s illustrations are steeped in racist propaganda, caricatures and harmful stereotypes.”

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    @CCZ

    Ha, yeah, CCZ, I do remember that. What I think was the worst part of the young lady's behavior in the matter is that she was just a liar. She actually had been a pretty big fan of the man's "literature" (as I am) before she got a chance to try to rub something in President Trump's face. See "Every day, from here to there, crazy broads are Everywhere.".

  174. Steve, admit what you really want.

    Spooky at a distance.

  175. Eagle Eye says:
    @International Jew
    @AndrewR


    I always considered “white privilege” to be a post-Christian analog to “original sin,”
     
    That's a pretty good way of thinking about it, though the analogy breaks down in one respect: original sin is thought to apply to all people everywhere, while white privilege is the burden only one group of people -- white people -- are doomed to carry.

    So I'd say a more accurate analogy is the accusation of having killed Christ. It's like white privilege the way original sin is too, but it's also specific to one group -- Jews.

    In fact, the doctrine of white privilege is like the Christocide libel in other ways. In both cases, the bearers of the curse are invited to discard some of the burden that comes with it: white people are invited to become "allies" (as this Robin DiAngelo has done), just as Jews have been urged to convert to Christianity. But in both cases, the curse is not fully lifted: "woke"/"allied" white people still have to grovel and scrape, and Jews who converted -- including their children and grandchildren -- were still targeted for destruction by the Nazis.

    Replies: @AndrewR, @Eagle Eye, @Buster Keaton’s Stunt Double

    I always considered “white privilege” to be a post-Christian analog to “original sin,”

    [International Jew:] … the doctrine of white privilege is like the Christocide libel

    Excellent analogy.

    BTW the desperate struggle to destroy Christianity that accelerated through the 20th century is mainly motivated by the desire to impose sledge-hammer pseudo-moral doctrines to serve the interests of TPTB.

    It is naive to think that without Judeo-Christian ethics, people will just become non-judgmentally “nice” to each other. On the contrary, atavistic tribalism – in whatever bizarre form – and government-directed anti-Eastasia hatred will rush in to fill the carefully-excavated void.

    One of the key lies – rarely stated, but blatantly implied – is to attribute National Socialist atrocities to Christianity and Christian precepts. National Socialism, like its sister Communism, was virulently anti-Christian.

    (It is true that Christianity was not much of a force in opposing totalitarianism, having been massively compromised and weakened in the insane crime that was World War I. But Christian notions played no part whatever in the thinking of the National Socialist leadership. Hitler complained about Christianity’s enfeebling effect on the Volk.)

  176. @CCZ
    @Achmed E. Newman

    You have discovered the hidden "code" that must certainly prove Dr. Seuss was a racist.

    Remember when the librarian for Cambridgeport Elementary School in Massachusetts, Liz Phipps Soeiro, rejected a shipment of 10 Dr. Seuss books from Trump, writing: "Another fact that many people are unaware of is that Dr. Seuss’s illustrations are steeped in racist propaganda, caricatures and harmful stereotypes."

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

    Ha, yeah, CCZ, I do remember that. What I think was the worst part of the young lady’s behavior in the matter is that she was just a liar. She actually had been a pretty big fan of the man’s “literature” (as I am) before she got a chance to try to rub something in President Trump’s face. See “Every day, from here to there, crazy broads are Everywhere.”.

  177. @Frau Katze
    @candid_observer

    Bret Stephens’ hope was that by leaving WSJ for NYT, he could avoid nasty comments from Trump-supporting readers.

    I’ve read through the comments on several of columns. His first column, on his skeptic take on human-caused climate change, generated floods of angry comments.

    I can’t see the old WSJ Stephens supporting Sarah Jeong.

    He must be getting desperate to find readers somewhere somehow who appreciate him.

    But even with the column on Jeong, there was no shortage of negative comments, including at least one who was cancelling his/her subscription.

    Replies: @Eagle Eye

    [Mexico-raised pseudo-American Bret Stephens] must be getting desperate to find readers somewhere somehow who appreciate him.

    Don’t know. Do prostitutes “get desperate to to find” admirers somewhere somehow who appreciate them? Don’t they just do a well-defined job to satisfy whoever will pay them?

  178. @Anonymous
    @Tyrion 2

    I always took the "flesh tone" designation as a reference from 9th grade art history -- the actual color the crayon produces is not some scientific chromatic index of a white oppressor's epidermis, but resembles the exposed quarters of incompletely-clothed figures in certain Baroque masters like Rubens (very fleshy indeed). So it's a useful name if you know that history, but if you don't the crayon might as well be called "jiggly" or "Bubblicious" or "monkey dishwasher." Nothing prevents them from putting PANTONE digits on the markers, just to make kids' lives even more data-sanitized, the better to merge them into the social info-system analytics. Likewise, nothing prevents them from calling the crayons whatever they want, maybe even improving it-- Crayola has "yellow green" and "green yellow" options with no apparent basis other than poor imagination on the designer's part.

    What's the consternation anyway, with how we've named crayons or make-up products? It's so silly that I have to believe it's emotional displacement for NAM girls who are insecurely complected (not unheard of among the white population, as countless ineffective Clearisil and Noxzema-branded offerings would suggest).

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    “Likewise, nothing prevents them from calling the crayons whatever they want, maybe even improving it– Crayola has “yellow green” and “green yellow” options with no apparent basis other than poor imagination on the designer’s part.”

    The fashion world long ago advanced far beyond Crayola in naming. I remember about 30 years ago flipping through a mail order clothing catalog and seeing vivid names for color like “algae.”

    The precision of naming stuff has gone way up. For example, the only modern computer game I’ve played is Fallout about 12 years ago. You start off by designing your character including picking from about 200 facial hair styles, each with a strikingly well-chosen name, such as Gettysburg or Little Big Horn, that I recognized as appropriate, but that I never would have guessed before hand.

    • Replies: @Romanian
    @Steve Sailer

    You should really play the next ones in the series. Fallout 2 is exactly what you remembered, and 3 and 4 are whole new levels of awesome. Plenty of iSteve material, too.

    , @NickG
    @Steve Sailer


    The fashion world long ago advanced far beyond Crayola in naming. I remember about 30 years ago flipping through a mail order clothing catalog and seeing vivid names for color like “algae.”
     
    At least it's descriptive, like 'kingfisher' which I came across the other day when considering buying a stupidly expensive schoffel fleece jacket.

    But I still don't know what cerise looks like; it does, somehow, sound gay.

    Replies: @Rosamond Vincy

  179. @Colin Wright
    @Steve Sailer

    She's got a complexion similar to Michelle Wolf -- who is Rumanian-and-something.

    Of course Rumanians proper don't look like that. Gypsy?

    (for a laugh, get the right gentile Rumanian to say 'gypsy.' You wouldn't believe how much meaning can be packed into the enunciation of one word.)

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Romanian

    I googled this Michelle Wolf character and nothing says that she is part Romanian. Are you sure? Also, there is nothing about her that screams Romanian, that’s not really a type of face you get around here. Some of the biggest distinctions between peoples, in my opinion, is what their uglies look like. Robin DiAngelo is a more believable Romanian than her, though hair that curly is very rare. I was in Thailand on a day trip to some island, having met no Romanians during the vacation, and I saw a homely girl on the big boat we were on and told my girlfriend of the time “what a Romanian face that girl has”. She was Romanian.

    And, yes, we do pack a lot of meaning into the word, because it does not simply denote a race/ethnic group, but a whole slew of social pathologies. White Americans, even the old-timey racists, would not use n****r as an insult between themselves, because it was a specific descriptor. But Romanian colloquial speech does exactly that.

    PS Are you born in the 1960s or earlier? I find that to be the case with people who are used to saying Rumanian, which is the old form exonym. The Commies decided to ask partners to use the o variant, although, of course, other languages kept their own forms (Rumanien, Roumanie, Rumyniya). The Middle Ages term rumân came to mean “indentured servant” and person of low social status, for obvious reasons, so the language flowed towards a different direction.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
    @Romanian

    I was trying to find out Michelle Wolf's ancestry. Rumanian came up, as I recall -- but I wasn't taking notes. Dark and vaguely non-white, though. Hence, Rumanian gypsy.

    And yes, I was born before 1960 -- and indeed, I just typed 'Rumanian' -- twice. I try to type 'Romanian' if I think about it, though.

    Replies: @Romanian

  180. @Steve Sailer
    @Anonymous

    "Likewise, nothing prevents them from calling the crayons whatever they want, maybe even improving it– Crayola has “yellow green” and “green yellow” options with no apparent basis other than poor imagination on the designer’s part."

    The fashion world long ago advanced far beyond Crayola in naming. I remember about 30 years ago flipping through a mail order clothing catalog and seeing vivid names for color like "algae."

    The precision of naming stuff has gone way up. For example, the only modern computer game I've played is Fallout about 12 years ago. You start off by designing your character including picking from about 200 facial hair styles, each with a strikingly well-chosen name, such as Gettysburg or Little Big Horn, that I recognized as appropriate, but that I never would have guessed before hand.

    Replies: @Romanian, @NickG

    You should really play the next ones in the series. Fallout 2 is exactly what you remembered, and 3 and 4 are whole new levels of awesome. Plenty of iSteve material, too.

  181. @TomSchmidt
    @syonredux

    In 2007, she joined the faculty of Westfield State University,[4] where she was named a tenured professor of multicultural education in 2014. She later resigned from her position at Westfield.

    NO one resigns from a tenured position to do the sort of ad-hoc work that DiAngelo does. Westfield State is a mostly white working class campus. What's the betting she resigned rather than be fired for violating some school rule, or foroppressing students?

    Replies: @Fabian Forge, @Alden

    I hope she was fired because some racist black brown red yellow critter sued podunk college for hiring a White to teach multicultural brainwashing

    Conservatives need to realize that it’s capitalist businesses who hire these POSs to harangue the employees and lower productivity by wasting time in these struggle sessions. Corporations want employees to eat lunch at their desks, work to 7 or 8 at night, come in on Saturdays, work at home on weekends. 60 or 70 hours of work for 40 hours pay

    So why are corporations devoting all this time to anti White brainwashing sessions.?

  182. @peterike
    A million Jewish women will buy this book. After all, it’s not about them, is it?

    It’ll end up on the shelf next to the Tennessee Coates books.

    Replies: @Alden

    Don’t you mean Nehi Cola?

  183. @Fabian Forge
    @TomSchmidt

    I'm sure she makes way way more money teaming up with corporate Diversity VP's to shake down corporations for that sweet diversity cash than she ever did in academe. Give the woman some credit - she's an entrepreneur!

    Replies: @TomSchmidt, @TomSchmidt

    As a Massachusetts state employee, you can look up her salary and tell us what she made, I think that that would be eminently worth it.

    Her final salary in 2015 would be listed here:
    https://www.masslive.com/politics/index.ssf/2016/02/massachusetts_state_employee_salaries_2016.html

    Inquiring minds want to know!

  184. @Fabian Forge
    @TomSchmidt

    I'm sure she makes way way more money teaming up with corporate Diversity VP's to shake down corporations for that sweet diversity cash than she ever did in academe. Give the woman some credit - she's an entrepreneur!

    Replies: @TomSchmidt, @TomSchmidt

    Looks like she lied. I just checked 2015,and no salary for her. Checking 2014, she made about 60k.

    See for yourself:
    https://b2.caspio.com/dp/f6321000be812d67f502478bb70e

    DiAngelo, Robin J Westfield State University Associate Professor $60,492.00 $66,526.00

    Records 1-1 of 1
    The first column is 2014 earnings, the second 2013.

    • Replies: @Rosamond Vincy
    @TomSchmidt

    Meanwhile, people who teach calculus, marine biology, or Nathaniel Hawthorne are underpaid adjuncts with little/no job security or benefits.

    That's one way to chip away at Western Culture. Starve out the people who are actually teaching it

  185. @Anon
    @TomSchmidt


    As wise Lee Kwan Yew wrote… well, look it up.
     
    Could you please cite?

    Replies: @TomSchmidt

  186. @Mr. Blank
    I also liked how the article blandly throws out this bit about

    these so-called pillars of whiteness: assumptions that prop up racist beliefs without our realizing it. Such ideologies include individualism, or the distinctly white-American dream that one writes one’s own destiny, and objectivity, the confidence that one can free oneself entirely from bias.
     
    "Individualism" and "objectivity" are honky "ideologies." Of course, the opposite of an individual who thinks objectively is a raging mob. So that's...what we should strive for? Huh?

    I wonder if these people ever bother to really think about this crap, or if they just string trendy words together to come up with new ways of explaining "white = bad." It reminds me of Theodore Dalrymple's explanation of the purpose of propaganda.

    Replies: @jJay, @RonaldB, @slumber_j, @Anon, @TomSchmidt, @Rosamond Vincy

    Well if you can’t free yourself entirely from bias, why try? Might as well join Aryan Nations and get it over with. As well be hanged for a sheep as a lamb.

  187. @Daniel H
    Becky thrown under the bus.

    Replies: @Anonym, @JimB

    Uh, in this case Becky seems to be driving the bus.

  188. @Tiny Duck
    While nowhere near is insidious white women do there fair share of evil

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2018/08/09/laura-ingrahams-demographic-changes-monologue-is-rallying-cry-trumps-base/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.713b07f82f08


    I think everyone needs to acknowledge all of us whites have biases & prejudices . Feeling guilty is a good thing . Hopefully it encourages us self reflect and work at overcoming these . The issue I have with Trump , he encourages these prejudices to not only thrive but propagate

    Replies: @MikeatMikedotMike, @Rosamond Vincy

    What is up with your punctuation? Kern, baby, Kern!

  189. DiAngelo sets aside a whole chapter for the self-indulgent tears of white women,

    I tried all day to skip responding to this story.

    My (late) wife….a wonderful woman who managed to combine beauty, wit and dazzling femininity with a down-to-earth quality that instantly set anyone who knew her and even complete strangers at ease…..had a emotional streak and was readily moved to tears. It might have had something to do with her values and her character, which were forged very early on.

    When she was in high school, her brother volunteered to go to Vietnam. He was on the varsity baseball team, all of whom had sworn a pact to enlist together – yup, just like in the Remarque book. Only he had the extreme misfortune to step on a landmine his first week in country. He didn’t die, but he spent over a year, much of it unconscious, in a stateside hospital – there would be many operations before he got to walk out of there.

    Every day, for more than a year, she’d leave school and take the bus over to the VA hospital, where – regardless of whether or not he was conscious, or what she had to postpone, cancel or simply do without to be there – she would hold his hand. To let him know, somehow, that he was loved and he was not alone. (Showing my own wet-eyed fragility here just recounting this, I’m afraid.) She swore to me she never cried throughout that long ordeal, if only because he was home, near family, and they all had unyielding faith that he would one day walk out of that place, whole and healed. But she would cry unashamedly at the heartbreak of other people – friends of hers whose brothers weren’t so “lucky”, among many others. Perhaps there were times her tears seemed silly, but they were never, ever insincere. Many years later she was viewing a military parade in town, and the sight of a little old 80-something veteran watching the parade go by and saluting, his uniform hanging shapeless and baggy on him, turned the waterworks on full force – I had to gently pull her away from there or she might have bawled all night.

    At the end of her time, her incredibly brave fight with cancer all but over, her last conscious act before slipping into a coma was constructing a beautiful wreath for a friend of hers, who was too wrung out dealing with a death in her own family to be able to handle Christmas decorations for her family….it didn’t matter that she was dying herself, and time was running out – because it’s better to light a candle…..And yes, she was in tears throughout, thinking of her friend’s loss and suffering.

    My apologies for subjecting everyone to such maudlin remembrances, but there comes a point when these “woke” phonies involuntarily drop their masks and demonstrate what inhuman monsters they truly are. So you’ll please pardon me if my reaction to Robin di Angelo’s sneering, harpy-like contempt for the fragile tears of white women is a hearty go fuck yourself with the leg of a sofa, lady.

    • Replies: @Kevin O'Keeffe
    @Ragno

    Damn. When I get home from work a couple hours from now (and read this aloud to my wife), she is going to be impressed.

  190. @CCZ
    @Je Suis Omar Mateen

    KKK = an inning with 3 “swinging third strike” strike-outs.

    “Girl Gets Offended At Game Because Of A "KKK" Sign Recording The Number Of Strike Outs”

    “Several teams were contacted for comment.  One owner, speaking to us off the record, said the following: “We didn’t realize that our fans and players were making this connection.  Our job is conduct the National pastime, not create an uncomfortable environment.  If a rule comes from MLB we will comply and refuse to allow these “offensive” letters to be displayed in our stadiums.””

    Perhaps we should just permanently remove the “offensive” letter “K” from the alphabet.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @Pontius, @Rosamond Vincy

    Would that include Kris, Kim, Khloe, Kendall, and Kylie? Please say “Yes”!

  191. @Anon
    "Could all this Becky-bashing be Democrats preparing to admit that Hillary was a mistake?"

    She wants to run again, guaranteed. They'll lay the ground work to make sure that doesn't happen. That's part of what this is about. It's not a coincidence that all this Becky stuff has accelerated from the moment Drudge started whispering about another Hillary run; they're itching to go full on anti-white racist and 2020 may be the year they drop pretenses and do it. Since white feminists couldn't deliver last time, the woke coalition is coming to see them as dispensable.

    Replies: @Iberiano, @Rosamond Vincy

    She wants to run again, guaranteed

    Seen any recent photos? She looks half-dead!

  192. @TomSchmidt
    @Fabian Forge

    Looks like she lied. I just checked 2015,and no salary for her. Checking 2014, she made about 60k.

    See for yourself:
    https://b2.caspio.com/dp/f6321000be812d67f502478bb70e

    DiAngelo, Robin J Westfield State University Associate Professor $60,492.00 $66,526.00

    Records 1-1 of 1
    The first column is 2014 earnings, the second 2013.

    Replies: @Rosamond Vincy

    Meanwhile, people who teach calculus, marine biology, or Nathaniel Hawthorne are underpaid adjuncts with little/no job security or benefits.

    That’s one way to chip away at Western Culture. Starve out the people who are actually teaching it

  193. @RonaldB
    @Mr. Blank

    From personal experience with a member of a feminist, academic coven, (and I use the word very knowingly), I can say that basic leftist assumptions are never, ever critiqued, or even discussed. If you want to see real "fragility", try using economic or race-realist logic on a leftist.

    Replies: @Anon

    I can say that basic leftist assumptions are never,

    Can you list some of the basic leftist assumptions and describe what critiques you have made of them?

    • Replies: @RonaldB
    @Anon

    "Can you list some of the basic leftist assumptions and describe what critiques you have made of them?"

    lol

    Let me count the ways.

    If you read my short comment carefully, you might deduce that I never got my chance to make a critique. The person in question walks off as soon as any logical discussion of her assumption begins. So, any critique is imaginary, rather than an argument actually made in real space.

    A few examples:

    1) Wealth is distributed through privilege, particularly white privilege.
    Critique: Wealth correlated closely with IQ. The wealth of a family, statistically, dissolves after 2 or 3 generations of non-talented progeny spend it and incompetently manage it.

    2) White privilege exists and is responsible for the disproportionate wealth and influence of whites.
    Critique: There exist special norms of admissions in colleges for admissions of blacks and other minorities. The average SAT scores of blacks admitted to prestige colleges is significantly lower than the average SAT scores of whites and east Asians. There are numerous agencies devoted to "affirmative action" meaning the hiring of lesser-competent blacks, and not a single agency devoted to maintaining rights for whites, in terms of merit versus proportional representation. The rates of black criminality, confirmed through victim surveys rather than just police reports, is far higher than for whites, which criminality accounts for a very large part of the undesirability of black communities, as opposed to mainly white or Hispanic communities.

    I could go on all day, but hopefully, you get the idea.

  194. @Iberiano
    @Anon

    Yes, perhaps as a side-benefit, but the "becky" bashing is merely the dark forces of the race industry essentially "catching up" with some past oversights while roaming the countryside looking for racists--primarily because the demographic shift to even more non-whites, gives the bigots an opportunity to now go after their prior den mothers--white women. White women were always, as a matter of race reconciliation, on "the list"...and the author of this book is no exception (she just hopes to be eaten last). I sometimes wonder if such liberal whites are basically trolling...knowingly standing up and ensuring everyone sees they are indeed, the very.last.white.clapping.

    Our entire nation's direction is based upon, ultimately, what is best for white women, so I think that as the narrative shifts to attacking them, we will see white women give "permission" for white men and the culture at large, to protect them (via legislation, cultural cues, polices and yes, even physically). Right now, we are in the tenuous moment where being to "out" could still be a problem--but that will fade as the attacks increase and their (WW) safety net and physical, digital and emotional zones are violated.

    Replies: @Anon

    Our entire nation’s direction is based upon, ultimately, what is best for white women,

    No, our entire nation’s direction is based upon what is best for Jews.

  195. @Anna Pavlova
    @CCZ

    I agree completely.

    It's both amusing and disturbing that DiAngelo and those employed by the diversity gravy train so obviously misuse the definition of words. This is almost funnier than the phony buzzwords they create. I guess 'white fragility' counts as both a buzzword phrase, and a change in what the word fragility actually means...

    So... what of 'microaggressions' then? Would not taking umbrage against minor, unintentional, perceived slights count as 'black fragility' (as in the example you quote)? We're constantly badgered with stories of how such microaggressions make living anywhere near white people so horrific for POC (even as they clamor for more access to white, or perceived-white spaces). They must be very fragile indeed....

    The act of defending yourself via argumentation, or any lack of deference, is considered 'fragility' (but only for whitey, of course). Having a backbone and enough fortitude to go against the grain = fragility. Okay then.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    And yet, they have you–us–constantly on the defensive. Always reacting, picking at their arguments. Parrying but never thrusting.

  196. @Romanian
    @Colin Wright

    I googled this Michelle Wolf character and nothing says that she is part Romanian. Are you sure? Also, there is nothing about her that screams Romanian, that's not really a type of face you get around here. Some of the biggest distinctions between peoples, in my opinion, is what their uglies look like. Robin DiAngelo is a more believable Romanian than her, though hair that curly is very rare. I was in Thailand on a day trip to some island, having met no Romanians during the vacation, and I saw a homely girl on the big boat we were on and told my girlfriend of the time "what a Romanian face that girl has". She was Romanian.

    And, yes, we do pack a lot of meaning into the word, because it does not simply denote a race/ethnic group, but a whole slew of social pathologies. White Americans, even the old-timey racists, would not use n****r as an insult between themselves, because it was a specific descriptor. But Romanian colloquial speech does exactly that.

    PS Are you born in the 1960s or earlier? I find that to be the case with people who are used to saying Rumanian, which is the old form exonym. The Commies decided to ask partners to use the o variant, although, of course, other languages kept their own forms (Rumanien, Roumanie, Rumyniya). The Middle Ages term rumân came to mean "indentured servant" and person of low social status, for obvious reasons, so the language flowed towards a different direction.

    Replies: @Colin Wright

    I was trying to find out Michelle Wolf’s ancestry. Rumanian came up, as I recall — but I wasn’t taking notes. Dark and vaguely non-white, though. Hence, Rumanian gypsy.

    And yes, I was born before 1960 — and indeed, I just typed ‘Rumanian’ — twice. I try to type ‘Romanian’ if I think about it, though.

    • Replies: @Romanian
    @Colin Wright

    Oh I was not offended or anything. I just thought it was an interesting observation, how we use things the way we first learned them, even later in life. Rumania reminds me of the good old days of the monarchy before the commies.

    We have a Romanian Academy modeled on the French ones that regulates the use of the Romanian language - syntax, spelling etc. There are small but noticeable differences between generations based on what they learned in school, as opposed to the pronouncements of the Academy on formal issues. Older people sometimes use diacritics differently (tîmpit versus tâmpit) and so on. I just turned 30, and yet people who are just 10 years younger than me were taught this new rule that the Romanian equivalent of "not one X" (with masculine and feminine forms, like all Romance languages) are spelled in one word (nici un and nici o become niciun and nicio). Formal media adopted it immediately, but pundits, bloggers and so on have not, for the most part. All the youngsters write it like they are now supposed to, but I don't and neither does anyone edit that part of what I write for work or publishing. I am already a linguistic anachronism in this one small area. If I were still learning formal syntax-morphological analysis in school (a requirement for all students), it would likely differ a bit from when I finished high school 12 years ago.

  197. @International Jew
    @AndrewR


    I always considered “white privilege” to be a post-Christian analog to “original sin,”
     
    That's a pretty good way of thinking about it, though the analogy breaks down in one respect: original sin is thought to apply to all people everywhere, while white privilege is the burden only one group of people -- white people -- are doomed to carry.

    So I'd say a more accurate analogy is the accusation of having killed Christ. It's like white privilege the way original sin is too, but it's also specific to one group -- Jews.

    In fact, the doctrine of white privilege is like the Christocide libel in other ways. In both cases, the bearers of the curse are invited to discard some of the burden that comes with it: white people are invited to become "allies" (as this Robin DiAngelo has done), just as Jews have been urged to convert to Christianity. But in both cases, the curse is not fully lifted: "woke"/"allied" white people still have to grovel and scrape, and Jews who converted -- including their children and grandchildren -- were still targeted for destruction by the Nazis.

    Replies: @AndrewR, @Eagle Eye, @Buster Keaton’s Stunt Double

    In fact, the doctrine of white privilege is like the Christocide libel

    1: Be confronted by historical Jewish malfeasance

    2: Denounce all noticing of the same as (pick one of) the following – A: “forgery,” B: “libel,” C: “virulent anti-semetic canard”

    3: ???

    4: Profit!

  198. @Colin Wright
    @Romanian

    I was trying to find out Michelle Wolf's ancestry. Rumanian came up, as I recall -- but I wasn't taking notes. Dark and vaguely non-white, though. Hence, Rumanian gypsy.

    And yes, I was born before 1960 -- and indeed, I just typed 'Rumanian' -- twice. I try to type 'Romanian' if I think about it, though.

    Replies: @Romanian

    Oh I was not offended or anything. I just thought it was an interesting observation, how we use things the way we first learned them, even later in life. Rumania reminds me of the good old days of the monarchy before the commies.

    We have a Romanian Academy modeled on the French ones that regulates the use of the Romanian language – syntax, spelling etc. There are small but noticeable differences between generations based on what they learned in school, as opposed to the pronouncements of the Academy on formal issues. Older people sometimes use diacritics differently (tîmpit versus tâmpit) and so on. I just turned 30, and yet people who are just 10 years younger than me were taught this new rule that the Romanian equivalent of “not one X” (with masculine and feminine forms, like all Romance languages) are spelled in one word (nici un and nici o become niciun and nicio). Formal media adopted it immediately, but pundits, bloggers and so on have not, for the most part. All the youngsters write it like they are now supposed to, but I don’t and neither does anyone edit that part of what I write for work or publishing. I am already a linguistic anachronism in this one small area. If I were still learning formal syntax-morphological analysis in school (a requirement for all students), it would likely differ a bit from when I finished high school 12 years ago.

  199. @Steve Sailer
    @Anonymous

    Yes.

    I intend to use both fairly interchangeably and see if either one ever enters common usage.

    I am not optimistic, but whaddaya whaddaya?

    Replies: @Ghost of Bull Moose, @Elsewhere, @MBlanc46

    I do my best to get CotF out there. I’ll start working with CotM.

  200. @Ragno

    DiAngelo sets aside a whole chapter for the self-indulgent tears of white women,
     
    I tried all day to skip responding to this story.

    My (late) wife....a wonderful woman who managed to combine beauty, wit and dazzling femininity with a down-to-earth quality that instantly set anyone who knew her and even complete strangers at ease.....had a emotional streak and was readily moved to tears. It might have had something to do with her values and her character, which were forged very early on.

    When she was in high school, her brother volunteered to go to Vietnam. He was on the varsity baseball team, all of whom had sworn a pact to enlist together - yup, just like in the Remarque book. Only he had the extreme misfortune to step on a landmine his first week in country. He didn't die, but he spent over a year, much of it unconscious, in a stateside hospital - there would be many operations before he got to walk out of there.

    Every day, for more than a year, she'd leave school and take the bus over to the VA hospital, where - regardless of whether or not he was conscious, or what she had to postpone, cancel or simply do without to be there - she would hold his hand. To let him know, somehow, that he was loved and he was not alone. (Showing my own wet-eyed fragility here just recounting this, I'm afraid.) She swore to me she never cried throughout that long ordeal, if only because he was home, near family, and they all had unyielding faith that he would one day walk out of that place, whole and healed. But she would cry unashamedly at the heartbreak of other people - friends of hers whose brothers weren't so "lucky", among many others. Perhaps there were times her tears seemed silly, but they were never, ever insincere. Many years later she was viewing a military parade in town, and the sight of a little old 80-something veteran watching the parade go by and saluting, his uniform hanging shapeless and baggy on him, turned the waterworks on full force - I had to gently pull her away from there or she might have bawled all night.

    At the end of her time, her incredibly brave fight with cancer all but over, her last conscious act before slipping into a coma was constructing a beautiful wreath for a friend of hers, who was too wrung out dealing with a death in her own family to be able to handle Christmas decorations for her family....it didn't matter that she was dying herself, and time was running out - because it's better to light a candle.....And yes, she was in tears throughout, thinking of her friend's loss and suffering.

    My apologies for subjecting everyone to such maudlin remembrances, but there comes a point when these "woke" phonies involuntarily drop their masks and demonstrate what inhuman monsters they truly are. So you'll please pardon me if my reaction to Robin di Angelo's sneering, harpy-like contempt for the fragile tears of white women is a hearty go fuck yourself with the leg of a sofa, lady.

    Replies: @Kevin O'Keeffe

    Damn. When I get home from work a couple hours from now (and read this aloud to my wife), she is going to be impressed.

  201. @Steve Sailer
    @dfordoom

    Oh, yeah, I've been mentioning how America is drifting toward Rule by Actresses, but there is an example of Rule by Actress: China from about 1965-1977 under Mrs. Mao's heavy influence. Paul Johnson said she brought "the spirit of theatrical vendetta" to affairs of state.

    It's not unknown in world history for actress/model/whatevers to wind up with a lot of power: the Empress Theodora, the two Mrs. Perons, etc.

    Replies: @David, @Anonymous, @dfordoom

    Oh, yeah, I’ve been mentioning how America is drifting toward Rule by Actresses,

    So when Rule by Actresses becomes law (and I agree with you that it’s inevitable) – do you have any predictions as to the first U.S. Actress-President?

    • Replies: @Rosamond Vincy
    @dfordoom

    If it were Patricia Heaton, it might not be so bad.

  202. @Steve Sailer
    @Anonymous

    I draw a distinction between shootings in which the shooter intends to get away and one where the shooter is suicidal or fine with life in prison. Most West Side of Chicago shootings where five people are wounded and only one killed are due to the black criminal not sticking around to finish off the wounded because he doesn't want to get caught. Columbine-style mass shootings are different because of their high death counts because the shooters don't care about getting away. They are much, much rarer, but tend to seize the public imagination for obvious reasons. I attribute their growth in numbers since the "I Don't Like Mondays" school shooting in the late 1970s to a declining fear of going to Hell.

    Replies: @AndrewR, @dfordoom

    I attribute their growth in numbers since the “I Don’t Like Mondays” school shooting in the late 1970s to a declining fear of going to Hell.

    Their growth in numbers was initially because of “I Don’t Like Mondays” which made the concept incredibly fashionable and incredibly attractive. So it was mainly Bob Geldof’s fault.

    As the fear of going to Hell declined the prospect of achieving celebritydom increased.

  203. @Steve Sailer
    @Anonymous

    "Likewise, nothing prevents them from calling the crayons whatever they want, maybe even improving it– Crayola has “yellow green” and “green yellow” options with no apparent basis other than poor imagination on the designer’s part."

    The fashion world long ago advanced far beyond Crayola in naming. I remember about 30 years ago flipping through a mail order clothing catalog and seeing vivid names for color like "algae."

    The precision of naming stuff has gone way up. For example, the only modern computer game I've played is Fallout about 12 years ago. You start off by designing your character including picking from about 200 facial hair styles, each with a strikingly well-chosen name, such as Gettysburg or Little Big Horn, that I recognized as appropriate, but that I never would have guessed before hand.

    Replies: @Romanian, @NickG

    The fashion world long ago advanced far beyond Crayola in naming. I remember about 30 years ago flipping through a mail order clothing catalog and seeing vivid names for color like “algae.”

    At least it’s descriptive, like ‘kingfisher’ which I came across the other day when considering buying a stupidly expensive schoffel fleece jacket.

    But I still don’t know what cerise looks like; it does, somehow, sound gay.

    • Replies: @Rosamond Vincy
    @NickG

    Cherry. Not gay if you're a five-year-old girl; otherwise, exercise caution.


    http://www.art-paints.com/Paints/Enamel/Krylon/Spray/Fluorescent-Cerise/Fluorescent-Cerise-xlg.jpg

  204. @dfordoom
    @Steve Sailer


    Oh, yeah, I’ve been mentioning how America is drifting toward Rule by Actresses,
     
    So when Rule by Actresses becomes law (and I agree with you that it's inevitable) - do you have any predictions as to the first U.S. Actress-President?

    Replies: @Rosamond Vincy

    If it were Patricia Heaton, it might not be so bad.

  205. @RonaldB
    @candid_observer

    Actually the Bret Stevens column seems well researched and reasonable, whether you agree with his conclusion that Sarah Jeong is a net asset to the NYT or not.

    Back to topic, though, imagine the witch Robin DiAngelo giving a "racism" seminar, using her load of cant and smoke to harass line workers, whose main sin was to actually produce something of value rather than write or read volumes of post-modern, non-logical cultural Marxist doggerel.

    Replies: @JerseyJeffersonian

    If ever your scenario of white line workers being forced to sit through a torture session of listening to this woman were to occur, I expect that, besides some foot shuffling & eye rolling, they would sit there & take it. Hopefully, they would find out who arranged it and who approved it and slash their tires as a token of their appreciation. Nothing flashy, just an ice pick through all 4 sidewalls.

    But it is unlkely that this would happen since these white line workers, being Deplorables, would already be written off. The real target audience would be management assholes who would get the message that in order to get promoted, they would have to display anti-white racism. They’d get right to it. Particularly as they could use their wokeness as a weapon in their intra-managerial politics. But the real damage would occur in their hiring practices, as incompetent, featherbedding members of the Coalition of the Fringes would be hired as tokens in the virtue signaling of the intra-managerial politics. The fun really begins then, since no matter how clueless these hires are, you can’t then get rid of them.

    • Replies: @Rosamond Vincy
    @JerseyJeffersonian

    Only 3 sidewalls, to be really sadistic. Under some insurance policies, they only cover if you if all 4 got vandalized.

  206. @NickG
    @Steve Sailer


    The fashion world long ago advanced far beyond Crayola in naming. I remember about 30 years ago flipping through a mail order clothing catalog and seeing vivid names for color like “algae.”
     
    At least it's descriptive, like 'kingfisher' which I came across the other day when considering buying a stupidly expensive schoffel fleece jacket.

    But I still don't know what cerise looks like; it does, somehow, sound gay.

    Replies: @Rosamond Vincy

    Cherry. Not gay if you’re a five-year-old girl; otherwise, exercise caution.

  207. @JerseyJeffersonian
    @RonaldB

    If ever your scenario of white line workers being forced to sit through a torture session of listening to this woman were to occur, I expect that, besides some foot shuffling & eye rolling, they would sit there & take it. Hopefully, they would find out who arranged it and who approved it and slash their tires as a token of their appreciation. Nothing flashy, just an ice pick through all 4 sidewalls.

    But it is unlkely that this would happen since these white line workers, being Deplorables, would already be written off. The real target audience would be management assholes who would get the message that in order to get promoted, they would have to display anti-white racism. They'd get right to it. Particularly as they could use their wokeness as a weapon in their intra-managerial politics. But the real damage would occur in their hiring practices, as incompetent, featherbedding members of the Coalition of the Fringes would be hired as tokens in the virtue signaling of the intra-managerial politics. The fun really begins then, since no matter how clueless these hires are, you can't then get rid of them.

    Replies: @Rosamond Vincy

    Only 3 sidewalls, to be really sadistic. Under some insurance policies, they only cover if you if all 4 got vandalized.

  208. I am amazed that so far nobody has studied the prevalence of belief in the “evil eye” among Brazilians. It is a widespread belief that other people’s envy will cause you misfortune. I know several people who avoid telling about their plans, or about good news, for fear that the “olho gordo” (literally “fat eye”) will ruin everything. If you are expecting, wait until the pregnancy is advanced. If you got a job offer, wait for the first day of work. If you are going on a gorgeous trip, wait until the last days abroad to let people know. And so on.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Ghoul

    Is "evil eye" African or Southern European peasant? I'd guess the latter.

  209. @Ghoul
    I am amazed that so far nobody has studied the prevalence of belief in the "evil eye" among Brazilians. It is a widespread belief that other people's envy will cause you misfortune. I know several people who avoid telling about their plans, or about good news, for fear that the "olho gordo" (literally "fat eye") will ruin everything. If you are expecting, wait until the pregnancy is advanced. If you got a job offer, wait for the first day of work. If you are going on a gorgeous trip, wait until the last days abroad to let people know. And so on.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    Is “evil eye” African or Southern European peasant? I’d guess the latter.

  210. That sounds like the Christian teaching that pride is a sin and that prideful people will be punished in appropriate ways, though here the agent of harm is god not malevolent humans.

  211. @Anon
    @RonaldB


    I can say that basic leftist assumptions are never,
     
    Can you list some of the basic leftist assumptions and describe what critiques you have made of them?

    Replies: @RonaldB

    “Can you list some of the basic leftist assumptions and describe what critiques you have made of them?”

    lol

    Let me count the ways.

    If you read my short comment carefully, you might deduce that I never got my chance to make a critique. The person in question walks off as soon as any logical discussion of her assumption begins. So, any critique is imaginary, rather than an argument actually made in real space.

    A few examples:

    1) Wealth is distributed through privilege, particularly white privilege.
    Critique: Wealth correlated closely with IQ. The wealth of a family, statistically, dissolves after 2 or 3 generations of non-talented progeny spend it and incompetently manage it.

    2) White privilege exists and is responsible for the disproportionate wealth and influence of whites.
    Critique: There exist special norms of admissions in colleges for admissions of blacks and other minorities. The average SAT scores of blacks admitted to prestige colleges is significantly lower than the average SAT scores of whites and east Asians. There are numerous agencies devoted to “affirmative action” meaning the hiring of lesser-competent blacks, and not a single agency devoted to maintaining rights for whites, in terms of merit versus proportional representation. The rates of black criminality, confirmed through victim surveys rather than just police reports, is far higher than for whites, which criminality accounts for a very large part of the undesirability of black communities, as opposed to mainly white or Hispanic communities.

    I could go on all day, but hopefully, you get the idea.

  212. Mockery is the solution. Join the fun here: https://robindiangelo.com/contact/

    “Room for one more passenger on the gravy train?

    Hi Robin,

    This race hustle you’re running appears to be quite lucrative. What would be realistically required for me to hang out my shingle in anticipation of self-loathing white people filling my wallet with conscience-cleansing dollars?

    Best regards.”

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