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  1. The IQ bar is more fun if you make it specific stuff, instead of general stuff:

    For example, black women:

    IQ 83 = Steal hair
    IQ 93 = Give me hair
    IQ 103 = Create law to give me hair
    IQ 113 = History says give me hair
    IQ 123 = Systems says give me hair
    IQ 133 = Philosophy says give me hair
    IQ 143 = I will arrange hair giving for a low fee

    M to F trannies:

    IQ 83 = Steal boobies
    IQ 93 = Give me boobies
    (Bonus! IQ 98 = Beat people up)
    IQ 103 = Create law to give me boobies
    IQ 113 = History says give me boobies
    IQ 123 = Systems says give me boobies
    IQ 133 = Philosophy says give me boobies
    IQ 143 = I will arrange boobies giving for a low fee

    Mestizos:

    IQ 83 = Steal California
    IQ 93 = Give me California
    IQ 103 = Create law to give me California
    IQ 113 = History says give me California
    IQ 123 = Systems says give me California
    IQ 133 = Philosophy says give me California
    IQ 143 = I will arrange California giving for a low fee

    And so on.

    • Replies: @SFG
    , @Corvinus
  2. Sean says:

    Yes, and no one of IQ >163 believes in genetically fixed IQ.

  3. Hail says: • Website

    I worry that Twitter embeds have a much lower content life expectancy than plain text and that therefore a lot of these will be useless for future reference.

    Here is the content of this post in plain text:

    Conor Friedersdorf
    @conor64
    Jan. 16, 2020

    The invocation of Ta-Nehisi Coates as the prototypical proponent of a given social justice view or contradiction frequently involves a position he hasn’t actually taken. He is invoked by detractors as a symbol more often than a thinker. And he deserves better than that.

    Steve Sailer
    @Steve_Sailer

    Ta-Nehisi Coates at least has a few idiosyncratic mental quirks and failings. In contrast, The Atlantic’s latest writer in the racist Hate YT genre, Ibram X. Kendi, is pure 103 IQ Conventional Wisdom.

    Torin McCabe
    @torinmccabe

    IQ 83 = Steal stuff
    IQ 93 = Give me stuff
    IQ 103 = Create law to give me stuff
    IQ 113 = History says give me stuff
    IQ 123 = Systems says give me stuff
    IQ 133 = Philosophy says give me stuff
    IQ 143 = I will arrange stuff giving for a low fee

    • Thanks: Mr McKenna
    • Replies: @sayless
  4. Neuday says:

    I just want my self, my family, my community, and my nation, to just be left the hell alone. What’s my IQ?

    • Replies: @anon
    , @Stebbing Heuer
  5. Anonymous[996] • Disclaimer says:

  6. SFG says:
    @MikeatMikedotMike

    Oh wait, I have ‘N-word privileges’ here. 😉

    Jews:

    IQ 83 = Steal Americans’ stuff (mobsters only)
    IQ 93 = “Give me America”
    IQ 103 = “Create a law to let us into America”
    IQ 113 = “History says we were excluded from country clubs, so let us into them so we can have America eventually”
    IQ 123 = “Systems exclude people like us from elite law and business schools, so let us into them so we can have America and lots of money too.”
    IQ 133 = “Facts don’t care about your feelings; instead, philosophy says you should allow fair competition based on IQ, which will give us America”
    IQ 143 = “We’ll arrange America giving for a low fee” […plus interest, taxes, and expense ratio]
    IQ 153 = “We’ll build you an atom bomb so you can win WW2, just give us America”
    IQ 163 = “We’ll invent large portions of the Internet, which will then allow us to have America”
    IQ 173 = “I am the Way, the Truth, and the Life.”

    (last one is IQ infinity if you are a believer, of course)

  7. Hail says: • Website

    The Woke Intellectual Pyramid of IQ

    One problem with this, even though meant in jest, is it implies that all ‘woke’ people are on the same side, sharing the same goals, just that they go about things according to their natural abilities (and some people at the extreme ends take advantage).

    This misses the “High–Low Tagteam” element of left-wing coalition(s) in the West).

    The ‘high’ component of the coalition, which leads and directs the coalition, does not have the same goals at all as the ‘low’ component.

  8. Politics

    IQ 143 = Next Raj Chetty
    IQ 133 = Professor at Harvard University’s Kennedy School of Government
    IQ 123 = Run for office
    IQ 113 = Blog
    IQ 103 =Tweet
    IQ 93 = Anti-Fa protest
    IQ 83 = Riot!
    IQ 73 = CNN Commentator

    • Replies: @Desiderius
    , @Walsh2
  9. Corvinus says:
    @MikeatMikedotMike

    Indeed, the IQ bar is more fun if you make it specific stuff, instead of general stuff!

    For example, European men:

    IQ 83 = Steal tribal land and enslave Africans
    IQ 93 = Give me tribal land and enslave Africans
    IQ 103 = Create laws to give me tribal land and control African slaves
    IQ 113 = History says laws that give me tribal land and control African slaves is justified
    IQ 123 = Systems say that controlling tribal land and African slaves is a moral imperative
    IQ 133 = Philosophy mandates that controlling tribal land and African slaves is God’s will
    IQ 143 = I will find protect the stealing of tribal land and the control of African slaves

    Although, I prefer the “Bad Guys/Good Guys Scale”. Perhaps one of the resident HbD whiz kids here could correlate it to IQ score.

    BAD
    Trouble maker white –> Middle Eastern and Jewish

    We feel sorry for you because you are not white –> blacks, Asians, indigenous

    Fake white –> SJW, leftist, and/or feminist designation

    PROBABLY BAD
    Inferior white –> white + black or Asian or indigenous or mutt

    You may be white, but probably not –> those who are wiggers

    Wannabe whites –> those who lighten their skin to pass as white

    Nazi white –> those who are extremist whites or in the KKK or those who love Hitler

    PROBABLY GOOD
    White, but not white –> those who oppose the Alt Right but are not leftists or feminists

    Simply white –> whites who prefer not to be labeled as white…receive the label

    GOOD
    True white –> Alt Right designation

    Exceptional white –> Alt Right designation + trace ancestors directly from 13 colonies

  10. @Corvinus

    You are like a vacuum cleaner: Best kept in the closet and only good at sucking.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  11. Torin McCabe is standing on the shoulders of one of 20th century America’s greatest philosophers…

  12. @Sean

    Belief?

    What are you, a theologian?

  13. @JohnnyWalker123

    IQ 173 Willing to cite Sailer
    IQ 163 Sailer
    IQ 153 Sailer commenter

  14. anon[194] • Disclaimer says:
    @Neuday

    ~73 if you think that’s how the world works. Life is struggle.

    • Agree: Realist
  15. Jack D says:
    @Sean

    IQ 163+ is found in approximately 1 in 75,000 people or around a dozen in a city of 1 million. So I’m not sure it really matters what they think because they are highly atypical.

    I don’t think anyone intelligent believes that IQ is genetically fixed at birth. Most intelligent people I know who have not been brainwashed by egalitarian ideology believe that man is a combination of nature and nurture. All the great philosophers have understood this since ancient times.

    OTOH, the truly idiotic belief (and yet it can be found every day in our formerly great newspapers, coming from the mouths of academics and politicians, etc. – probably even they don’t believe it and are virtue signalling) is that man is infinitely maleable so that if only humans were nurtured correctly we could all be Einsteins and that genes play no part in intelligence. Genes determine (in large part) your skin color, you height, your musical and athletic abilities and so on, but when it comes to intelligence they magically play no part.

    • Replies: @Sean
    , @donvonburg
    , @AnotherDad
  16. @SFG

    (last one is IQ infinity if you are a believer, of course)

    Nah, that’s Monophysite. Council of Chalcedon ironed all that shit out in 451.

    • Replies: @nebulafox
  17. Stuff giving for a low fee… I call it finance.

    Who wants to invest with Monsieur?

    On a more serious note, any moron can see that a racket is more sustainable if you aren’t literally robbing people and do some little thing for them. That members of the ruling class take it as a point of pride to try to kill the flock is sheer madness. Value transferrence does not work without diligent, trusting workers. That’s society. We must live in a society.

  18. Jack D says:
    @SFG

    Jews: IQ 83

    The only (Ashkenazi) Jews I know that have IQ 83 were FLKs (funny looking kids – in other words children who just didn’t come out quite right – no only is their intelligence markedly below average for a Jew but usually you can see other signs – speech impediments, strange gait, unusual facial appearance). Otherwise it’s quite rare for an Ashkenazi Jew to be so low.

    OTOH, an IQ 83 African American is just your normal average black person and there’s nothing wrong with him, nor does anything appear to be wrong with them when you have an ordinary conversation so long as it doesn’t range into intellectually taxing matter.

  19. Anonymous[996] • Disclaimer says:

  20. nebulafox says:
    @Desiderius

    The empress believed some heretical things, true, but she was the only real man in the palace on the day of Nika! Always judge on present day actions first!

    • Replies: @Desiderius
  21. Anonymous[898] • Disclaimer says:
    @Corvinus

    Despite all the sins that the white man has committed do you agree that it’s okay to be white?

    It’s interesting that a non-retard like you repeats this B.S. narrative. Does it make you feel smarter or more virtuous? Why?

    • Replies: @Corvinus
    , @Reg Cæsar
  22. Kronos says:
    @Desiderius

    Don’t forget:

    Steve Sailer Lurker: 138

    But remember Politico, MSNBC, and CNN journalist lurker reporters are around the 105 IQ mark.

    https://www.reactiongifs.com/creepy-smirk/

    • Replies: @Realist
  23. @Jack D

    I used to teach special education, and none of my kids were FLK. The way I used to phrase it was, “You would never know my students were special ed by looking at them or talking to them. Looking at their writing and trying to teach them math, it became obvious”.

    • Replies: @Desiderius
  24. @Anonymous

    “It (meaning racial diversity) will be achieved only once white America is weaned off a prevailing narrative of racial pre-eminence”

    “Wean” is defined as “to accustom (a young child or animal) to take food otherwise than by nursing.”
    The writer, someone named Pamela Newkirk, might have chosen a less inflammatory word. Unless of course she believes that the majority of us pilgrims are collectively nothing more than a young child who needs to be, er, “weaned.”

    • Replies: @William Badwhite
  25. @nebulafox

    That’s nice.

    The Word still became Flesh, not Galaxy Brain.

  26. @ScarletNumber

    Some of both. Alot of us FLKs at that age in any case.

  27. On a recent flight there was a guy reading Between the World and Me. Dude was holding it high from his aisle seat as if it were a liturgical work. A totemic thing.

    • Replies: @SFG
  28. @Jack D

    Well, that’s the news from Lake Wobegon, where all the women are strong, all the men are good-looking, and all the children are Jewish.

    • Replies: @Lot
  29. Corvinus says:
    @Anonymous

    “Despite all the sins that the white man has committed do you agree that it’s okay to be white?”

    It’s more than OK to be white, but it’s much better to be human.

    “It’s interesting that a non-retard like you repeats this B.S. narrative. Does it make you feel smarter or more virtuous? Why?”

    I was merely poking fun at what was going to be inevitable posts by the JohnnyWalkers, the SFG’s, and the MikeAtMikeDotAtMike’s of the world.

    • Replies: @anonymous
    , @SunBakedSuburb
  30. Anon[160] • Disclaimer says:
    @Desiderius

    That was cringeworthy. No wonder people start selling books about emotional intelligence.

  31. Tusk says:

    Jews

    IQ 83 = Steal Israel
    IQ 93 = Give me Israel
    IQ 103 = Create law to give me Israel
    IQ 113 = History says give me Israel
    IQ 123 = Systems says give me Israel
    IQ 133 = Philosophy says give me Israel
    IQ 143 = I will arrange Israel for a small fee

    Maybe I should have edited the IQ numbers up one standard deviation…

  32. Sean says:
    @Jack D

    I don’t think anyone intelligent believes that IQ is genetically fixed at birth.

    We can see evolution and the natural assumption is that a certain mode of existence would enter into DNA over generations. We look to the most eminent intellects because the opinions of super-brains have authority even in areas where they are not qualified. Richard Feynman wrote books so people could cite his opinions, which were against genetically fixed group differences.

    The leading race and eugenics scientists were Lamarckians until the late 30′ s. Ernest Hooton said an American type could not be altered by immigration, because the American environment would alter the immigrants’ genetic qualities toward American norms. Hence genetic mixture of the American type population with new immigrants would be overborne by Lamarckian modification of the immigrant genes acquiring the characteristics of American genes.

    Moreover, the eugenicists were actually targeting problematic white individuals and populations, such as the Appalachians who had failed to alter for the better despite living in the US for hundreds of years, thereby showing themselves to be a pathological degenerate element not susceptible to Lamarckian environmental improvement. I think Lamarckian assumptions lie behind much of the intelligentsia’s jaundiced view of the white working class.

    • Replies: @Jack D
  33. @Anonymous

    Despite all the sins that the white man has committed do you agree that it’s okay to be white?

    Hah. Chief Squawking Crow spends much of his energy here defending the stupid decisions of stupid white people. And the venal decisions of venal white people.

    • Replies: @anonymous
  34. anonymous[102] • Disclaimer says:

    What’s the difference between 123 and 133? I think they should be combined into 123. Also you definitely don’t need an IQ of 143 to be a lawyer facilitating transactions.

    • Replies: @SFG
  35. malarkey says:

    138 – Not bad!

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  36. @malarkey

    138 – Not bad!

    Are you referring to the Stanford-Benet or the ménage-à-quatre?

  37. SFG says:
    @anonymous

    Not at all; the joke is that all the ‘smart’ people invent increasingly baroque justifications for you to give them something, whereas the really smart people find ways to actually make money off it.

    Actually I’d expect the businessmen who run the grifts not to be super-brilliant; those really smart guys tend to understand normal people too poorly. But you never know.

    For my part I saw the opportunity to (a) include a group people here love to talk about but hadn’t mentioned yet (b) extend the joke by exploiting the high-IQ stereotype to add on higher numbers and (c) change the direction of the joke at the end.

    But for all that engineering, I didn’t get a LOL…so humor isn’t necessarily that logical. 😉

  38. Anonymous[199] • Disclaimer says:
    @SFG

    Nice, but only America? 😉

    IQ 103 Steal from the host
    IQ 113 Rip off the host
    IQ 123 Shyster the host
    IQ 133 Control information of the host
    IQ 143 Control the financial system of the host
    IQ 153 Devise secret societies to further control the host
    IQ 163 Engineer the ultimate destruction of the host over several decades
    IQ 173 Hey, what’s happening to the host?
    IQ 183 Unz

  39. @Neuday

    Doesn’t matter.

    People with lower IQs than yours will target you.

  40. Anonymous[199] • Disclaimer says:
    @SFG

    Hasbara

    IQ 53 Corvinus
    IQ 93 Boethius
    IQ 113 Whiskey
    IQ 123 Art Deco
    IQ 133 Lot
    IQ 143 Johann Ricke
    IQ 143 Jack D

    • LOL: Coemgen
  41. Anonymous[199] • Disclaimer says:

    I would lol you SFG but I can’t as an anon.

  42. @Jack D

    I think the capacity for developing intelligence is strictly hereditary, but the final outcome can be swung wildly by nurture. Ashkenazi Jews adopted at birth by sub saharan Africans and malnurtured severely might be brought down greatly in their raw IQ, but sub saharan Africans given ideal nutrition, mental training, etc. might have a few more points of IQ than their cousins raised back home-but not drastically.

    American Blacks are smarter than sub saharan Africans, but that’s mostly because of white admixture combined with differential positive selection from slave days through the civil rights era. I strongly suspect that average black IQ today is quite a bit lower than in 1965, although talented tenth blacks and military veterans who successfully managed to retire out are probably on the whole much less impacted than the black underclass.

    When America collapses and our Chinese overlords take over, they’ll probably “literally” decimate the black underclass, culling the most violent and stupidest, and making it less attractive for the dumber ones to breed. There will probably be a lot of Chinese male-upscale Black female unions as well, as there is a surplus of males there now.

    • Replies: @Desiderius
    , @Jack D
  43. bomag says:
    @Corvinus

    For example, European men:

    IQ 83 = Steal tribal land and enslave Africans

    Quite the compliment.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  44. @Jack D

    Genes determine (in large part) your skin color, you height, your musical and athletic abilities and so on, but when it comes to intelligence they magically play no part.

    Even though everyone understands that our mental capability is humans outstanding survival trait. (“Mental capability” to loop in not just intelligence but traits like conscientiousness and cooperation.) Which ergo would be under constant selection pressure.

    Even though the increased brain and frontal cortex size of these skulls of our various pre-human ancestors over the last few million years is the main “story” of human evolution–which all good people must assent to.

    Even though the increased complexity of life under civilization–ergo more selection on cognitive traits–is obvious and ongoing; constantly yapped about by these same people in terms “more education” for job requirements today.

    • Replies: @Jack D
  45. anonymous[767] • Disclaimer says:
    @Corvinus

    It’s more than OK to be white, but it’s much better to be human.

    Would you have typed a similar response if I asked if “It’s OK to be black” or “It’s OK to be Jewish”? See how your response reads.

    I don’t believe you would have even thought of responding in such a manner in the black and Jewish cases. You would have just said “Of course!” and left it at that.

    You have inadvertently illustrated one of the foundation problems with the current narrative that you promote. Your blindness to the pernicious double standard, which you display in almost all of your posts, is both scary and sad.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  46. Walsh2 says:
    @JohnnyWalker123

    Re: CNN Commentator IQ – Watching the clips of the question that the CNN debate moderator asked that stirred the Sanders Warren kerfuffle it appeared to me that the moderator simply screwed up the question to Warren, i.e. she already had the question scripted and wasn’t quick enough to process Bernie’s answer and ask another question based on his answer.

    There may well have been some nefarious intentions by Warren campaign and CNN as it relates to Bernie but it seems more attributable to the incompetence of the CNN moderator.

    • Replies: @Ozymandias
  47. anonymous[767] • Disclaimer says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    Yet I don’t believe The Crow is himself stupid or venal. He seems somewhat non-retarded and a bit not-totally-dishonest.

    What is happening with The Crow is that he is letting his feminine side, which desires group acceptance and, thus, pushes conformity to perceived societal norms, win the fight against his intelligence.

    Why he feels the need to post on iSteve and elsewhere on Unz is a mystery. I mean to whom is he signalling his virtue in fighting the moral horrors found among the posts of Unz bloggers and commenters? Himself?

    • Agree: Inquiring Mind
    • Replies: @Desiderius
  48. Blacks

    IQ 83 – Where de white wimminz at?

    IQ 93 – Where de white wimminz at?

    IQ 103 – Fine, we’ll spell it your way. De white ‘women’: where dey be at?

    IQ 113 – That’s DOCTOR N’Gongwe, if you please; I happen to hold a Ph.D. in African-American Studies from Yale. Now that we’ve gotten that matter out of the way… Where are the white women?

    IQ 123 – Yes, yes, I know it doesn’t literally say “white girl sex slaves” in my contract, but it was very strongly hinted at by my recruiter. Now, if you will kindly direct me to where the white women are…

    IQ 133 – The topic of my TED talk today is one of critical importance in the light of climate change: “Black Men and White Women — The Case for a Climatological Union”

    IQ 143 – Jailed in federal prison for drugging and raping white women.

  49. Jack D says:
    @Sean

    While Lamarckism is eternally appealing to ideologues and experiments to “prove” that it exists continued throughout the pre-war period (and even unto the present day), none of these experiments were replicable and for the most part Darwin and Mendel had won the debate by the ’30s among serious scientists (except in the Soviet Union).

    That Larmackism was favored by the Communists tells you a lot. Its appeal is not scientific but ideological. Equality of results is not really possible unless we all start from the same starting point (as shapeless lumps of clay infinitely moldable by our environment). Positing that the cause of inequality is partly genetic gives lie to the notion that societal injustice is the sole cause and if we remove the injustice utopia will follow. Modern day Diversity worship is Communism minus Communist collective ownership. Communist economies were thoroughly discredited by their utter failure (although there are new suckers born every minute) but its egalitarian features remain appealing to many.

    Prewar eugenics in America, as you say, was not racially focused. Rather there were efforts made to insure that the family lines of (white) congenital idiots would not continue to propagate. But the Nazis gave eugenics and forced sterilization a really bad name and ever since you can’t even touch it. OTOH, there have been societal changes (many driven by government policy) that are massively dysgenic – the higher IQ a woman is, the more likely it is she will end up as a childless cat lady.

    • Agree: Johann Ricke
    • Replies: @Anon
    , @Sean
  50. sayless says:
    @Hail

    Tennessee Coates would get “better than that” if he could write better than that. It’s hard to figure out what he’s going on about, and I have an amulet and eldritch energies and everything.

    • LOL: Old Palo Altan
  51. Svevlad says:

    If you look at it really, that’s basically how every civilization ever did it.

    At some point it becomes “do my stuff” and the others get selected for “involuntary contribution to civilization”

  52. Anon[160] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jack D

    @ “ the higher IQ a woman is, the more likely it is she will end up as a childless cat lady.”

    You understand so very, very, little about women.

    • Disagree: bomag
    • LOL: Coemgen
    • Replies: @Jack D
  53. @donvonburg

    Planned Genegood has already been on that job for a century. Why do you think they’re so bulletproof?

  54. @Sean

    So our company is worth an extra 33ish pts? Sounds about right.

  55. Lot says:
    @Buzz Mohawk

    “Lake Wobegon, where all the women are strong, all the men are good-looking, and all the children are Jewish.“

    Sounds like Jewish summer camp!

  56. Realist says:
    @Kronos

    But remember Politico, MSNBC, and CNN journalist lurker reporters are around the 105 IQ mark.

    Not a chance….not one breaks 100.

    • Replies: @Kronos
  57. Realist says:
    @Sean

    I am under 120.

    I am way under 120.

    FIFY

  58. Mark G. says:
    @Jack D

    In everyday interactions with lower IQ blacks I never feel like I am smarter than them or they are smarter than me. I have trained a lot of blacks at work for many years, though, and see differences there. They seem to be able to actually think faster than me. In an emergency situation they would be able to respond faster than me and do better.

    Where their lower IQ shows up is when I ask them to solve a complex problem that takes some time to solve. I patiently persist until I get a solution in a situation like that but they seem unable or unwilling to do that. Part of that might involve differing personality traits where they lack the personality trait of patience or are more lazy but I think it largely is IQ.

    I always suspected this might be due to differing ancestral environments. Their ancestors had to react fast in case a lion jumped out from behind a bush in the jungle while my ancestors had to think of ways to survive a harsh winter and then patiently implement those more complicated long term plans so they wouldn’t end up starving or freezing to death. When I started reading in this area I found out I certainly wasn’t the first to think of something like this.

    • Replies: @Jack D
  59. Jack D says:
    @AnotherDad

    I agree with your main point, but (somewhat oddly) human brain size has actually been shrinking over the last 10 or 20,000 years.

    https://www.discovermagazine.com/the-sciences/if-modern-humans-are-so-smart-why-are-our-brains-shrinking

    There are various theories on why this is so but no one is quite sure why. Domesticated animals also show a reduction in brain size over their wild ancestors. It may just be a side effect from overall reduction in size (most dogs are smaller than wolves too). Cro-Magnons were enormous. Perhaps shorter pathways are more efficient. Perhaps we are jettisoning parts of the brain that are no longer needed in our environment. Perhaps you just don’t need to be as smart (in certain ways) to live in a non-Darwinian setting. Our ancestors had to quickly think of what to do when the saber toothed tiger was chasing you and we aren’t confronted with those situations as much. No one really knows why but human brains definitely did shrink and not grow.

  60. @Corvinus

    ” but it’s much better to be human.”

    OK New Left hippie.

  61. Jack D says:
    @Mark G.

    You are definitely not the first to make this observation. Blacks seem to be pretty good at things that require rapid response and improvisation rather than thoughtful composition and contemplation. Basketball rather than chess. Jazz rather than classical music. Writing rap songs rather than books.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  62. Jack D says:
    @Anon

    I understand one thing about them – feelings are more important to women than facts so your response seems remarkably devoid of the latter.

    https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2011/may/9/education-level-inversely-related-to-childbearing/

  63. I love people who have been given massive, truly massive amounts of stuff (like Sailer) since before the day they were born are always whingeing on about other people not so blessed as them wanting a little stuff, too.

    Try, say, reading The Way We Never Were.

    Did you know, for instance, that the average down-payment on a house in 1920 was 50%.

    Thus, without the government giving your daddy lots and lots of free stuff in subsidies, you could not have grown up in your nice suburban home.

    Just one example out of millions. Drive on a “free”way lately?

  64. Kronos says:
    @Realist

    Let me rephrase that, they often score a 105 on a renormalized test based on race, gender, and, gender/sexuality populations. White men are exempted from the IQ testing of these safe space populations.

  65. Jack D says:
    @donvonburg

    the final outcome can be swung wildly by nurture. Ashkenazi Jews adopted at birth by sub saharan Africans and malnurtured severely might be brought down greatly in their raw IQ,

    It really has to be severe in order to swing the needle. Unless you grossly abuse the child (to the extent that would or should attract the attention of the child protection authorities) you’re not going to change his IQ that much. If you are just ordinary dumb people and treat the kid reasonably well in dumb people fashion the kid will be whatever he was meant to be. Adopted children resemble their birth family in IQ more closely than they resemble the families that raises them.

    This cuts both ways. My wife sees the flip side of this a lot in her educational testing practice, where rich smart people adopt a kid from a Romanian orphanage or similar and despite having all the best schools and other advantages, the kid is not that bright (and comes under a lot of pressure from his adoptive family who have unrealistically high expectation that the kid is going to be a cardiologist or something like his adoptive dad who comes from 3 generations of doctors). Everyone ends up unhappy because if your kid from the Main Line ends up being a plumber instead of going Ivy then you lose face, despite the fact that the kid is not Ivy material and no amount of tutoring, etc. is going to make him into one.

    In a way this should be reassuring to parents in that your parenting has less to do with the way that your kid turns out than genetics. But anyone who has two or more children who turn out to be quite different despite being raised in the same home by the same parents already knows that.

    • Replies: @benjaminl
  66. @Corvinus

    Dumb Africans did most of the enslavement of their own people (serfs and war captives) in exchange for rum and trinkets. Today they are doing the same with the Chinese i.e debt for natural resources.

    You can’t compare European colonization that lifted your county out of the Stone Age to Mestizos and sundry who are trashing the same like Arabs and Africans across the pond.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  67. @Prester John

    The writer, someone named Pamela Newkirk

    Here’s our girl

    So her article is just a more eloquent version of “gimme some more gimme dats”

    Sorry in advance if I botched the photo link

  68. Corvinus says:
    @anonymous

    “Would you have typed a similar response if I asked if “It’s OK to be black” or “It’s OK to be Jewish”?

    It’s OK to be white, black, Jewish, Hispanic–whatever the case may be. But it’s much better to be human.

    “I don’t believe you would have even thought of responding in such a manner in the black and Jewish cases. You would have just said “Of course!” and left it at that.”

    Thank you for your concern.

    “You have inadvertently illustrated one of the foundation problems with the current narrative that you promote. Your blindness to the pernicious double standard, which you display in almost all of your posts, is both scary and sad.”

    There is no double standard here. If you love being your race or ethnic group, show your pride. Just expect that there may be a backlash by members and non-members in how you demonstrate it.

    • Replies: @bomag
  69. @Walsh2

    “it appeared to me that the moderator simply screwed up the question to Warren, i.e. she already had the question scripted…”

    The Warren camp sent this story to CNN.

    CNN called the Warren camp to confirm the story, allowing them to act as a second source for their own story.

    CNN airs the story just before the debates.

    CNN frames their question to Warren as if Bernie is already proven guilty.

    Warren ambushes Bernie on stage, and CNN just happens to catch it.

    CNN releases the footage, with perfect audio, within a day.

    Coincidence, all coincidence.

    • Agree: Jim Don Bob
    • Replies: @Ozymandias
  70. anonymous[732] • Disclaimer says:

    It’s OK to be white, black, Jewish, Hispanic–whatever the case may be. But it’s much better to be human.

    There is no double standard here.

    I think you missed my point. You wouldn’t have put it the way you did for any other group but white. Given that you are white, you should be worried about why this is.

    If you love being your race or ethnic group, show your pride. Just expect that there may be a backlash by members and non-members in how you demonstrate it.

    No argument here.

    However, the backlash seems to be more extreme for white people who show their pride, than for any other group.

    From your responses you seem to be more sensitive to showings of pride by whites — your group — than showings of pride by non-whites. This should concern you.

  71. bomag says:
    @Corvinus

    It’s OK to be white, black, Jewish, Hispanic–whatever the case may be. But it’s much better to be human.

    When “BLM” came out, some suggested “All Lives Matter”. Didn’t fly.

  72. benjaminl says:
    @Jack D

    I knew a family that did this. The WASP / Ashkenazi parents were 100 % pure uncut Blue State Ivy League progressives.

    They had one biological child, and one child adopted from a “developing” country. Both kids had the most exquisite, elaborate nurture you could wish for.

    The biological kid went right to Harvard-Yale-Princeton and a “prestige” career and the adopted kid is a dropout who consorts with lowlifes.

    Really makes you a believer in heredity.

    • Replies: @Jim Don Bob
  73. Anon[355] • Disclaimer says:
    @Sean

    Yes, and no one of IQ >163 believes in genetically fixed IQ.

    No one of IQ >130 tries to characterize the mind of someone with a higher IQ than their own. At that IQ, theory of mind development is enough to prevent such idiocy.

    A man can no more do that than a mentally retarded person can tell you how a cognitively average person thinks.

    Which is obvious logic. As is this:

    If IQ is not genetically fixed, then dogs of different breeds can reach the same peak IQ. Animals of different species can reach the same peak IQ. A dog would be able to reach a man’s peak IQ,

    Your statement is fallacious. That you don’t see that is a sign of lower IQ.

    It is seldom that an individual can pack so much wrong answer into an eleven word sentence. At least you were able to accomplish that.

  74. Anonymous[199] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jack D

    Improvised dancing rather than a planned waltz. The improvisational fighting style of Silva/Adesanya is a great example of the forte of black athletes. Have patience, it gets better.

    Blacks = Improvisation
    Whites = Planning
    Jews = Planning on steroids + Chutzpah + Rube Goldberg + self-sabotaging scorpion/frog elements

  75. @benjaminl

    My cousin and his wife adopted a 3 year old from Russia, did EVERYTHING for her, and she is still a little off when you look at her, but wildly entitled. I suspect fetal alcohol damage. She is so unpleasant to be around that I have limited my visits with my cousin.

  76. @Sean

    Yes, and no one of IQ >163 believes in genetically fixed IQ.

    No, they’re just being sarcastic and only 0.0041184901% of the population gets it.

  77. Corvinus says:
    @bomag

    “Quite the compliment.”

    You have an odd way of offering praise for those who steal and enslave. Although, given the fact that the majority of Europeans in the 1600’s were illiterate peasants, it would be a compliment to affix that high score on them.

    • Replies: @bomag
  78. IQ 153 = I actually create the stuff these other humans are fighting over

  79. Corvinus says:
    @Amerimutt Golems

    “Dumb Africans did most of the enslavement of their own people (serfs and war captives) in exchange for rum and trinkets.”

    Serfs? Well, in Europe the lowest class of people were known as serfs. They were legally bound to a piece of land which they had to work on for the lord of that land. Seems like white elites dominating their impoverished white brethren.

    In Africa, there was a trade in enslaved people, with men were mainly used as household servants and in the military and women becoming concubines and courtesans. It is critical to note that here, the enslaved could rise in status. This type of slavery was different from capture and selling as object to be owned, used, and disposed of, as practiced by Europeans in the transatlantic slave trade.

    “Today they are doing the same with the Chinese i.e debt for natural resources.”

    As is Western nations. A second round of imperialism. But Africa is fighting back.

    http://www.ozy.com/fast-forward/the-map-that-could-save-africa-a-trillion- dollars/30547

    “You can’t compare European colonization that lifted your county out of the Stone Age to Mestizos and sundry who are trashing the same like Arabs and Africans across the pond.”

    My country is America. Yours? Now, assuredly there were benefits of European colonization and imperialism for vanquished nations. But those two things were responsible for the European-American “invade the world, invite the world” philosophy, as well as the reliance on “free stuff” and “gimmedats” in the form of natural resources to power their industries.

  80. @anonymous

    His employers. He’s the only one here who fits that profile.

  81. anon[279] • Disclaimer says:

    This type of slavery was different from capture and selling as object to be owned, used, and disposed of, as practiced by Europeans in the transatlantic slave trade.

    Also as practiced by the Muslims of North Africa and the Middle East about 1,000 years.

    There are a lot of people descended from African slaves in the Western Hemisphere. There don’t seem to be many or even any in the Arab world, for some reason or other.

    My country is America.

    Nah, you’re definitely a “citizen of the world” type.

  82. Sean says:
    @Jack D

    “The theoretical physicist Richard Feynman was such a lauded lecturer in large part because, like Hui Tzu, he was skilled in finding the right analogies to illustrate his explanations of extremely abstract-and extremely difficult-concepts.” ― James Geary, I is an Other: The Secret Life of Metaphor and How it Shapes the Way We See the World

    In his What Do You Care What Other People Think?’: Further Adventures of a Curious Character, Richard P Feynman reminisces about a trip to Brazil where during a tour of an East Indian neighbourhood he was asked by a local taxi driver asked why his people, the blacks, do so badly that even Indians from poorer families can surpass them in setting up businesses, their children becoming doctors ect. Feynman at first insisted he didn’t know, but the taxi driver persisted. Finally, Feynman tried to give his best guess or at least something that he says he thought was possible: “There’s a long tradition behind life in India that comes from a religion and philosophy that is thousands of years old. And although these people are not in India, they still pass on those traditions about what’s important in life—trying to build for the future and supporting their children in the effort—which have come down to them for centuries. I think that your people have unfortunately not had a chance to pursue such a long tradition, or if they did, they lost it though conquest and slavery”. The black taxi driver was happy with the answer and said he planned to bet some money he had got together on a race and use the winnings to improve his circumstances by buying his own cab, which he insisted was the only way he could do it. Feynman then was driven to a place were he had a “great afternoon”.

    When Feynman first invented his eponymous diagrams, he promoted them as replacing quantum theory with one based on particles, but fantastic as a computational tool and a vivid metaphor though the diagrams are they have not altered the quantum paradigm, according to a book I happen to be a little way through reading. Was Feynman’s little vignette of the questioning cab driver an extended metaphor that did not bear the weight he put on it, or was it a word to the wise? One wonders, but there can be no doubt of his IQ being up there. Nor can one doubt that his idea of a great afternoon was getting his hands on the hindquarters phenotype that Brazil’s mix of African and Amerindian genes produces in such abundance. Feynman has been accused of targeting his grad students’ wives, and I suspect the story of the driver displays a wicked sense of humour, yet also a desire to keep his advantages. But maybe no one that clever really can sincerely think it is a fluke of the genes just as much as assets that take the laurels at the Miss Bumbum contest

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-7523815/Miss-BumBum-World-2019-crowned-Winner-poses-tiara-tiny-bikini-controversial-pageant.html

  83. bomag says:
    @Corvinus

    Ha ha, you’re the one offering the inadvertent compliment with your moral equivalency paste-in shtick.

  84. @Ozymandias

    “Warren ambushes Bernie on stage, and CNN just happens to catch it.”

    Watching the incident again, I see that as the camera moves from left to right, it is centered on Warren and Sanders the entire time. Anyone who doesn’t believe that this was a setup is hopelessly naive.

  85. Evil geniuses for a better future… for the last evil genius left.

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