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From The Hollywood Reporter:
Samantha Bee — whose TBS program Full Frontal has in many ways taken up the mantle of political satire left by her old Daily Show boss Jon Stewart — delivered a stinging rebuke of NBC on her program Monday. The segment was a response to Jimmy Fallon’s friendly Tonight Show interview last Thursday with Donald Trump …
And she was name-checked in a New York Times editorial column by conservative writer Ross Douthat, who lamented that much of late-night comedy has been co-opted by the left.
Asked how she felt about the piece, Bee quipped: “It’s so good to know that we’re the problem and not racism.”
Ooh, now that’s some expert professional comedy there.
How much of “comedy” these days is really just Status Anxiety Therapy?
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“It’s so good to know that we’re the problem and not [Leftism]”:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Black_Book_of_Communism
It’s easier to tell when there’s a studio audience. If it’s comedy, they laugh; if it’s Social Anxiety Therapy, they clap.
One of the the correspondents was kind of funny though.Replies: @Jim Don Bob, @415 reasons
Fluttering twinklehands, please!Replies: @Jim Don Bob
Bee….is that a uniqly Jewish surname or did Jon Stewart convince her that it was less threatening sounding then Bernstien?
From the wiki:Not all leftists are Jews. You have your embittered cat lady leftists, your black radical leftists, your homosexual leftists, your self hating white men leftists, etc.Replies: @James Kabala, @Jefferson
Clapter.
For further discussion: was Dave Chappelle trying to get himself fired by doing the "Blind Hatred" sketch on his very first episode of Chappelle's Show?Replies: @BenKenobi
My two cents theory is such:
The West is in the advanced stages of senescence because it can no longer conquer the world actively (there are of course subtler forms of domination).
With that emerges this huge battle for status within the English speaking nations and more particularly in the Anglo-Americsn dynamic. Since political correctness is such a stilted form of being (you essentially have to suspend all observational activity that helps one navigate the real world), it’s the mental equivalent of the tightest corset around. The more you can actively disbelieve and stay successful, like said comedian, the more impressive it is.
O/T https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fingerspitzengefühl – a German term about “finger tip feeling”, understanding the zeitgeist before it emerges how the Tory & Republican parties (which are the oldest parties in the world) have managed to stay alive and strong all these years. Alt-right is only a manifestation of this..
The cosmopolitan salons to which country girls aspired in those days have been replaced by leftist blogs, middle-brow cultural venues like art gallery wine evenings and showings of Hamilton, and women's book clubs. Instead of the dashing scion of a merchant family, they want to marry a World Bank bureaucrat or fixed-income trader, or perhaps settle for a sustainability director at a major company.
Meanwhile, the rest of white America walks on eggshells for fear of social ostracization.
There’s been a huge shift in the American notion of comedy.
In my tentative opinion, laughter used to be stimulated by the spectacle of absurdity or by whimsy- comedy used to be the construction of goofy, absurd spectacles or language.
Laughter is now stimulated by and directed at out-of-group figures -comedy is now merely a set of agreed upon in-group cues and catty monologue.
Fortunately there is still plenty of standard issue comedy around too.
Modern solo comedians engaged in observational comedy don't have to develop situational comedy or rehearse elaborate gags. They,literally, can just spit venom at some 'out group' for their in group and be considered funny.Replies: @Sam Haysom, @Anonitron2
Yeah what Piltdown man said is too true. There are of course counter examples, Tosh.O while perhaps being objectionable to many here on the grounds of taste is certainly not a half hour of status signalling and consistently got higher rating than the more “important” Daily Show on the same network, in the same time slot
If liberals are correct that we are moving towards a ‘global culture’, what would its comedy look like? It would be a useful idea for someone like Samantha Bee to contemplate.
It’s hard to imagine that it would be anything other than crude and obvious, mostly sexual or celebrity based; rather like the comedy programme in Idiocracy which is called something like ‘oh my balls’ and features a man getting hit in the groin in different ways. This of course is because culture and therefore comedy on such a vast scale can only be done with a very broad brush strokes so as to cover as many social, linguistic and religious barriers as possible. The smaller the culture, the finer the cutural detail can be, because smaller numbers of very similar people will be able to make more subtle distinctions, metaphors and allusions.
I wonder if Samantha Bee knows anything about the comedy and tastes of her Mexican American compatriots? Demographically speaking, they and their tastes ought to be the future of America. The fact that she would not know or care is probably because when she imagines the future it is only in terms of her dwindling white-liberal tribe that will always be her audience, which she assumes will always carry a cultural pre-eminence even when reduced to minority status. She many of course be right about that.
You are correct about the difference in what other countries (culture) find funny.
I actually recall a show from Brazil in which random audience members submit their underwear for DNA testing and at the end of the show they reveal to the audience what they found in the shorts or panties. It is obviously fake because to determine by scientific study what all of the stains are in someone's underwear are would take way more than an hour, however the audience thought it was really funny, who would of thought.
It’s not that new. All comedy that wasn’t black or purposely conservative has been like that since the sixties, when we became so affluent that contrasting yourself with others became more advantageous than working together.
George Carlin’s first show after he decided he, like, didn’t want to be a square anymore was one big signal-o-rama. The establishment is so stuffy and uncool, am I right folks?
Re American comedy programmes when I was a boy: I remember thinking that, with only a couple of exceptions, “there’s a nation that should have stuck to jazz”.
In the sub-par Bee’s Leftist religion, racism is the greatest sin.
In my tentative opinion, laughter used to be stimulated by the spectacle of absurdity or by whimsy- comedy used to be the construction of goofy, absurd spectacles or language.
Laughter is now stimulated by and directed at out-of-group figures -comedy is now merely a set of agreed upon in-group cues and catty monologue.Replies: @Erik L, @Greasy William, @unit472, @Almost Missouri, @Forbes, @Neuday, @Fun, @Olorin
That is the lowest, easiest form of comedy and has the added quality of smugness, which I would prefer comedians ridicule rather than exude.
Fortunately there is still plenty of standard issue comedy around too.
What is with all these bitchy Anglosphere lefties like Bee and John Oliver swarming to this country to become millionaires and lecture rednecks instead of staying in their own lands to better those people with their “wisdom”.
When will they learn not to try to meddle in our constitutional rights. Especially since they have basically given the keys to their country to invading Muslims.
Never found her funny. Same as Larry Wilmore. Is it millennials? Do they find these people funny?
You have to understand the panic on the Left. All Republican candidates are “racists” – that goes without saying, but Trump is in his own league to them – a monster, a Hitler. And now, with only an unconscious Hillary standing between him and the keys to the White House, he may be approaching power. Therefore if others (such as Jimmy Fallon) treat him as just another candidate, they are being complicit.
Trump could never go on Bee’s show (this is something new in America – even on the show of leftists such as Letterman Republicans could appear). She would denounce him to his face (in her imagination – Trump would never let this happen). If Hitler appears on your talk show, should you make little jokes about his mustache and yank on it to see if it is real, or should you take the opportunity to denounce him as a war criminal?
And you certainly don't give him his own show:
http://www.counter-currents.com/2014/05/look-whos-back/Replies: @Altai, @C. Van Carter
That's exactly how they see it. A moral imperative to fight against evil. I'm ashamed to admit it, but it never hit me fully until I started following Adams election rundowns and he explained why he was pro Hilliary. Basically people were calling him Goebbles (or whatever the spelling) and he said that was one side telling itself that it was OK to commit violence upon them because they were evil. It's the same with the perennial Hitler, racist, anti-immigrant, etc. harangues.
On the flip side, they have to show that they're calling out the Hitlers, racists, etc. to maintain their cred, even if they don't believe the BS their own side is spreading.
Um, the war criminal is Trump’s opponent. And by any objective measure, she’s also the more racist one.
(Ok this is weird, Jack’s comment isnt showing up for me)
The embedded Douthat column also “name-checks” you and your Trump/punk rock analogy Steve:
http://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/09/21/opinion/campaign-stops/clintons-samantha-bee-problem.html?referer=https://www.unz.com/isteve/the-wit-and-wisdom-of-samantha-bee/
(albeit w/the perfunctory “alt-right-ish” tag, which, while true, is still clearly meant to “other” you -to use a phrase Samantha Bee’s fans would understand- though maybe the addition of the “-ish” is an improvement?)
It’s been a shitlib cliché for years that “conservatives can’t be funny” because, supposedly, comedy has to “punch up.”
What we’re seeing from Bee is that tgis is projection. Shitlibs make their comedy try to conform completely to political trends. The shrillest harpies in Salem accusing others of witchcraft would blush at the sanctimony of their ideological descendents.
The National Review back page which tried to be lightly comedic for a long time was Florence King or Derb, both paleocons. Hard to see Ponnuru or K-Lo doing the same.Replies: @Desiderius, @guest
We look askance at Stalin et al having had political show trials for various badthinkers and sending them to the Gulag.
Now the show trials and banishing are conducted by our Stalinistic minions on TV in real time.
I’m not sure it would have been an improvement politically but I always though that of the female correspondents Rachel Harris was the funniest and Samantha Bee was the most leaden and prone to using facial expressions to signal contempt in lieu of comedy. It that way I guess she is the natural successor to John Stewart I guess.
I wonder if part of Trevor Noah’s problem has been that he’s too young and fresh faced to emulate Stewart’s archiness and contempt laden mugging. You can’t just make fun of the right you need to make it clear that you are condescending towards them too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jkCCC7b_hLQ
It took them a year and a half to get rid of Blackity Black Everything's Black Larry Whilmore's show, even after it was a disaster from the start.Replies: @The Alarmist
People do spontaneously clap in mirth. Black people especially are prone to that (also writhing around, kicking, and generally spasming their bodied). But it should be accompanied by laughing.
Her political biases aside, her “humour” comes across as awkward and sycophantic. I was not surprised to learn she was born in Toronto, the San Francisco on Lake Ontario.
From Wikipedia:
“Samantha Bee was born in Toronto, Ontario, and has said of her family: “Dating from well before the turn of the 20th century, if there has ever been a successful, happy marriage in my family lineage, I’ve yet to hear about it.”[3] Bee’s parents split up soon after her birth, and she was initially raised by her grandmother, who worked as a secretary at the Catholic school Bee attended,[4] on Roncesvalles Avenue during her childhood. She attended Humberside Collegiate Institute and York Memorial Collegiate Institute.
After graduating from high school, Bee attended McGill University, where she studied humanities. Dissatisfied with a range of issues at the school, she transferred to the University of Ottawa after her first year. Bee later enrolled in the George Brown Theatre School in Toronto.[5]”
You Americans can have her, she's all yours. Another Canadian NAFTA export to the USA.Replies: @syonredux, @Jim Don Bob, @Thin-Skinned Masta-Beta, @Perspective
Clever. That was one thing about the old “In Living Color” was the way they used to get gasps and “ooooo”s from their audience.
For further discussion: was Dave Chappelle trying to get himself fired by doing the “Blind Hatred” sketch on his very first episode of Chappelle’s Show?
He kinda lost it around the end of the second season when he came to the opinion that he had enabled Whitey to laugh at darkey. Self-imposed exile to Africa followed after that (wow he was setting a great example now that I think of it).
Of course, Chapelle is so pro-black he married an Asian woman.
In my tentative opinion, laughter used to be stimulated by the spectacle of absurdity or by whimsy- comedy used to be the construction of goofy, absurd spectacles or language.
Laughter is now stimulated by and directed at out-of-group figures -comedy is now merely a set of agreed upon in-group cues and catty monologue.Replies: @Erik L, @Greasy William, @unit472, @Almost Missouri, @Forbes, @Neuday, @Fun, @Olorin
I will be plagiarizing this, thank you very much.
I’m sure she had an equally stinging response to Jimmy Kimmel’s “pickle jar” interview with Hillary Clinton. Right…?
She’s also Canadian which I suppose, in her mind, makes her even more qualified to criticize American politics. It used to be that Canadian comics used to come down here, blend in & make spirited fun of the culture which they themselves shared. Now they come down and tell us how we are all racists.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samantha_Bee
Fallon indulges who ever comes on his show to sell their product and entertain his audience. And Trump, by going on and having some fun at his own expense, is very subversively undermining all this “TRUMP IS HITLER!’ nonsense.
Colbert instead has made his show a liberal bitchfest. Not a big surprise Fallon is leading in ratings and ad revenue by a bunch. Suspect Fallon is nto a fan of Trump, but business is business. Not sure this silly geese like Colbert and this Bee person grasp that with the internet, hundreds of other channels and a 24/7 news cycle the average viewer at 11:30PM is not looking for “Nightline” any more.
Worse, Colbert, Bee, Noah, et al aren’t funny. Sadly nobody is gonna give Nick Depalo nor Jim Norton a TV show. And Patice O’Neal is dead.
In my tentative opinion, laughter used to be stimulated by the spectacle of absurdity or by whimsy- comedy used to be the construction of goofy, absurd spectacles or language.
Laughter is now stimulated by and directed at out-of-group figures -comedy is now merely a set of agreed upon in-group cues and catty monologue.Replies: @Erik L, @Greasy William, @unit472, @Almost Missouri, @Forbes, @Neuday, @Fun, @Olorin
You have an interesting point. Comedy was once a lot more visual and was performed by comedic actor/s.The film industry had Chaplin, Lloyd, Laurel and Hardy, Three Stooges, Crosby and Hope etc. This took a lot more work and effort to be ‘funny’ because it had to be amusing in and of itself not appeal to the prejudices or level of education of the audience.
Modern solo comedians engaged in observational comedy don’t have to develop situational comedy or rehearse elaborate gags. They,literally, can just spit venom at some ‘out group’ for their in group and be considered funny.
You are probably old enough to remember Nixon’s 3-second appearance on Rowan and Martin’s Laugh In when he looked in the camera incredulously and said “Sock it to me?”. It appeared between a bizarre sequence of psychedelic comedy skits.
We were funny once, and young.
I wonder if part of Trevor Noah's problem has been that he's too young and fresh faced to emulate Stewart's archiness and contempt laden mugging. You can't just make fun of the right you need to make it clear that you are condescending towards them too.Replies: @slumber_j, @Jack Hanson, @Desiderius, @whorefinder, @Wade
Rachel Harris is wondrous as the bitchily all-controlling girlfriend of the Ed Helms character in The Hangover. “That’s a good idea, Doctor Faggot.”
I wonder if part of Trevor Noah's problem has been that he's too young and fresh faced to emulate Stewart's archiness and contempt laden mugging. You can't just make fun of the right you need to make it clear that you are condescending towards them too.Replies: @slumber_j, @Jack Hanson, @Desiderius, @whorefinder, @Wade
Noah is fucking horrible because he’s unfunny. Full stop.
Please clap.
Ratings for all these shows on cable TV are minuscule. According to this article, having 1.2 million viewers in “killing it.” These people aren’t having the influence that they think. Outside Progressive elites, the average person doesn’t even recognize their names.
http://uproxx.com/tv/samantha-bee-double-daily-show-ratings/
In her own TBS publicity photos she looks like some kind of dessicated scolding cat lady wagging her finger at the things she doesn't like (EVERYTHING, except her beloved cat Rosa Luxemburg) :
http://variety.com/2016/tv/reviews/full-frontal-with-samantha-bee-review-tbs-1201699977/
Stewart was at least talented in his own way. I get the feeling that even leftists aren't enjoying his replacements as much as the original and the rating reflect this.Replies: @Yojimbo/Zatoichi, @Jim Don Bob
I wonder if part of Trevor Noah's problem has been that he's too young and fresh faced to emulate Stewart's archiness and contempt laden mugging. You can't just make fun of the right you need to make it clear that you are condescending towards them too.Replies: @slumber_j, @Jack Hanson, @Desiderius, @whorefinder, @Wade
True, but Stewart had a secret sauce none of his successors will ever come close to having: he made his chops making fun of himself on the old Jon Stewart Show on MTV.
Well apparently there can be only one problem at a time.
Snapter is the apotheosis.
“If Hitler appears on your talk show, should you make little jokes about his mustache and yank on it to see if it is real, or should you take the opportunity to denounce him as a war criminal?”
And you certainly don’t give him his own show:
http://www.counter-currents.com/2014/05/look-whos-back/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pKH8E8WzFZk
I tried watching the Stewart Show or the Daily Show or whatever it was called once at the height of its fame to see what all the hoopla was about. The Jon Stewart monologues consisted entirely of profanity-laced virtue signalling without a single genuine joke. Social Anxiety Therapy indeed.
One of the the correspondents was kind of funny though.
In my tentative opinion, laughter used to be stimulated by the spectacle of absurdity or by whimsy- comedy used to be the construction of goofy, absurd spectacles or language.
Laughter is now stimulated by and directed at out-of-group figures -comedy is now merely a set of agreed upon in-group cues and catty monologue.Replies: @Erik L, @Greasy William, @unit472, @Almost Missouri, @Forbes, @Neuday, @Fun, @Olorin
I used to work at a very in-group place. One of its peculiarities was that people hardly ever laughed. On the rare occasion they did laugh, it was usually at a “joke” that wasn’t really funny, it was just what you called an “agreed upon in-group cue”. Then their laughter itself was rather strange: kind of a strangled, forced sound resembling laughter, but not real loss of control laughter. Fake joke, fake laughter.
("I fucking hate conservatives," Bee quipped.)Replies: @Johan Schmidt, @eggheadshadhisnumber
It's not the focus of the movie but Wilson is a follower of a school of acting that emphasizes using emotion, and the Millenials at Xavier have so much difficultly using their emotions, making each other angry, etc, because they're so used to guarding themselves and being so careful not to say the wrong thing.
David Cross is a good example. He's a good comedic actor ( with limited range) but his standup is for shit.
A lot of imaginary conversations with 2-dimensional composite retarded rednecks. The good thing about imaginary verbal battles is you always win.
Bee and that sort are really flattering their audience, in the same way (as Steve has noted) the Times flatters their readers.
Also, no matter how sophisticated they are, Canadians know they're essentially midwesterners when they get to NY, so they often try extra hard in their virtue signaling.
Anyway, It's a living. There are some good young comics doing more interesting stuff, but everyone sees who is getting their own shows and why.Replies: @guest
Come the apocalypse, wimmen like Bee will have to learn how to make me a sammich.
Come the apocalypse, I hope men like you will send wimmen like Bee to Africa.
Plenty of real wimmen would show their appreciation by making you sammiches and making you....happy.
I wonder if part of Trevor Noah's problem has been that he's too young and fresh faced to emulate Stewart's archiness and contempt laden mugging. You can't just make fun of the right you need to make it clear that you are condescending towards them too.Replies: @slumber_j, @Jack Hanson, @Desiderius, @whorefinder, @Wade
Trevor Noah’s problem is that he’s an affirmative action case who thinks Americans are stupid. He’s below even the normal The Daily Show level of talent and yet they’re afraid to fire him because he’s black.
It took them a year and a half to get rid of Blackity Black Everything’s Black Larry Whilmore’s show, even after it was a disaster from the start.
If a strange-looking little woman screaming abuse in a silly voice is funny in and of itself, any market day in most of the world will be a great achievement in comedy.
Samantha Bee is most likely a bonehead. I can’t say for sure because I have never really heard of her. Sam Francis might say that the larger point is that the whole corporate propaganda apparatus must be exterminated with extreme prejudice. The anti-White animosity coming from the main stream media must be stopped. This should be made a litmus test for support of any and all Republican politicians. Obviously, Trump has won many voters over with his hilarious denunciations of the vile scum who infest the media. By bashing the media, Trump has done what Pat Buchanan could not do. To a large extent, Buchanan had to bypass media bias as an issue in order to garner free media. Of course, the media was all too happy to allow Buchanan to attack the treasonous rats in the Republican Party ruling class. The connection between the concentration of wealth through financialization and the concentration of media by means of the corporate propaganda apparatus should be readily apparent to all.
That’s a microaggression! Jazz hands, please.
It’s been years since I read 1984, but I think Orwell missed this–a scene where the employees of Minitrue sit around the cafeteria cracking approved jokes about Emanuel Goldstein.
BTW, the Hollywood Reporter says, “Bee quipped…” That’s a quip?
(“I fucking hate conservatives,” Bee quipped.)
Noah’s biggest problem is he is a sanctimonious foreigner from a far worse country
Off topic, but there’s been another mass shooting; five dead at the Cascade Mall in Burlington, Washington, just south of the Canadian border. Shooter still at large but there are pictures of him on the internet. Hard to tell from the photo but it looks like another Arab/South Asian.
Status anxiety therapy is the perfect way to describe all PC social interactions. It’s as good as coalition of he fringes. Keep up the good work.
Samantha who? Please, ask me if I care…
The author of the article signals virtue by saying “name checked” instead of “referenced.”
Interesting stuff, Steve. It seems fairly relevant to the recent breakthroughs in social psychology.
Some people might laugh as Employment Anxiety Therapy rather than Status Anxiety Therapy. My Employment Anxiety just makes me the silent type.
("I fucking hate conservatives," Bee quipped.)Replies: @Johan Schmidt, @eggheadshadhisnumber
-Ring Lardner
In my tentative opinion, laughter used to be stimulated by the spectacle of absurdity or by whimsy- comedy used to be the construction of goofy, absurd spectacles or language.
Laughter is now stimulated by and directed at out-of-group figures -comedy is now merely a set of agreed upon in-group cues and catty monologue.Replies: @Erik L, @Greasy William, @unit472, @Almost Missouri, @Forbes, @Neuday, @Fun, @Olorin
This notion of comedy is comprised of the put-down–provocative, vulgar insults directed at out-groups that do not fly under cover of political correctness. Since PC is essentially anti-humor, abusing white males is all that remains.
The popularity (or rather the fandom, since he is hardly popular in the numerical sense) of John Oliver baffles me. Stewart and Colbert were often obnoxious and smug, of course, but they at least had some sense of how to deliver a joke and when to use a scalpel vs. when to use a sledgehammer. Oliver yells for half an hour.
It occurred to me that comedy used to serve to relieve tension. Now its purpose seems to be to preserve and exacerbate it. Racial and ethnic differences used to be a great source of humor. Now “comedy” is about maintaining the preposterous notion that they don’t exist and if they did they wouldn’t be funny anyway so shut up racist. There can never be a release of the built up tension and anxiety. People just wouldn’t be able to handle it!
It’s also evident that these “comedians” aren’t able to make fun of themselves in any insightful way if at all. Their worldview is so fragile that the comedy maintains it – to joke about it is to pull the string that unravels the whole garment.
It should also not go without notice that three of the five late night hosts mentioned in Douthat’s piece are foreigners – Bee is Canadian, Oliver a Brit and Noah a South African. Not only are we treated to sneers by self-regarded cultural elites, we’re treated to sneers by foreign self-regarded cultural elites.
Humor, ar, ar.
("I fucking hate conservatives," Bee quipped.)Replies: @Johan Schmidt, @eggheadshadhisnumber
Orwell might have predicted the need for a perpetual culture war against the modern boogeymen: terrorists, racists, Russians, and so on. See the below quote.
Nearly all western thought since the last war, certainly all “progressive” thought, has assumed tacitly that human beings desire nothing beyond ease, security and avoidance of pain. In such a view of life there is no room, for instance, for patriotism and the military virtues. The Socialist who finds his children playing with soldiers is usually upset, but he is never able to think of a substitute for the tin soldiers; tin pacifists somehow won’t do. Hitler, because in his own joyless mind he feels it with exceptional strength, knows that human beings don’t only want comfort, safety, short working-hours, hygiene, birth-control and, in general, common sense; they also, at least intermittently, want struggle and self sacrifice, not to mention drums, flags and loyalty-parades.
Presumably the Chinese have avoided being blacklisted due to Republicrats’ reliance on what cheap foreign labor still remains there. Once Vietnam and the rest of South-East Asia finally outlast them on that front, we might see a bit more saber-rattling from Washington.
It is all about being part of the in group and virtue signalling. The way millennials are influenced by what their peers post on social media baffles me as well. I think that is where a lot of this stuff is more widely viewed. Ratings for all these shows are very low.
In my tentative opinion, laughter used to be stimulated by the spectacle of absurdity or by whimsy- comedy used to be the construction of goofy, absurd spectacles or language.
Laughter is now stimulated by and directed at out-of-group figures -comedy is now merely a set of agreed upon in-group cues and catty monologue.Replies: @Erik L, @Greasy William, @unit472, @Almost Missouri, @Forbes, @Neuday, @Fun, @Olorin
Welcome to the Matriarchy.
“Presumably the Chinese have avoided being blacklisted ” – Good question why: (1) Too big? (2) China has been assigned a special role in NWO? (3) Chinese (unlike Japanese) are in love with Jews as role models?
they've been sending people like Cameron to trade unlimited immigration to the West for access to Chindia's financial sectors for the last few years
hence engineering a war between Russia and the West - last man standing gets to be the banking mafia's new enforcer
that's the plan anyway
it won't work because their behavior patterns evolved in an earlier era
might cause WW3 though
It is time to admit that Samantha Bee and these other under 50 comics are just not funny.
I get more laughs and wit by reading the iSteve commenters. Sam Kinison, crazy and funny. These jerkoffs, tedious.
Dave Chappelle (been in the audience in small club where he did three + hours effortlessly). Show was wildly funny
Louie CK
Zack Galafanakas
Kumail Nanjani (saw this guy in a club very funny)
Paul F Tompkins
Key and Peele show (underrated, funny not really a "black" show)
Aziz ( although oddly I don't like his show)
Mike BirbigliaReplies: @Anon
By “these days,” do you mean since 1994?
I’m guessing Oliver is manic-depressive. That struck me as an alternate title for current comedy: Manic Depressive Liberal Expression.
” If Hitler appears on your talk show, should you make little jokes about his mustache and yank on it to see if it is real, or should you take the opportunity to denounce him as a war criminal?”
That’s exactly how they see it. A moral imperative to fight against evil. I’m ashamed to admit it, but it never hit me fully until I started following Adams election rundowns and he explained why he was pro Hilliary. Basically people were calling him Goebbles (or whatever the spelling) and he said that was one side telling itself that it was OK to commit violence upon them because they were evil. It’s the same with the perennial Hitler, racist, anti-immigrant, etc. harangues.
On the flip side, they have to show that they’re calling out the Hitlers, racists, etc. to maintain their cred, even if they don’t believe the BS their own side is spreading.
But Trump is literally Hitler.
It’s impossible to have any kind of decent comedy in a culture in which by far the funniest topics ARE NOT FUNNY!
Cotton Mather had more wit than Samantha Bee.
What about the wit and wisdom of the cockroach Samantha Powers expressed recently at the UN?…..Who I w0uld to call a Filthy F….G Ugly Irish Sk…nk…but the Unz Review Board of Decency and Moral Standards prohibits me from stating the obvious about this indecent immoral violent Irish Legal Immigrant psychopath!!!
There’s a documentary making its way around cable, called “She’s the Best Thing In It”, about a broadway lifer who returns to her native Nawlins to teach a master class at Xavier (Mary Louise Wilson herself was a product of the drama school at Northwestern back in the 50s).
It’s not the focus of the movie but Wilson is a follower of a school of acting that emphasizes using emotion, and the Millenials at Xavier have so much difficultly using their emotions, making each other angry, etc, because they’re so used to guarding themselves and being so careful not to say the wrong thing.
Douthat is right though. Immature white women who hold political views based on “niceness” is a much bigger problem than racism, which is barely a problem at all.
Just seeing the ads for “Full Frontal” were enough to inform me that Bee is a dim-witted, un-funny, left-wing harpy.
Hitler specifically chose a toothbrush-style mustache so that that could never happen and that’s also why the Kaiser used to avoid doing the late night talk show rounds…
On a side note, I wonder when Sacha Baron Cohen will do his next Trump interview? Several months ago, on the public radio program “On Point,” he said something about not wanting to help dangerous people by giving them free publicity; so as a matter of principle, we shouldn’t expect another meeting between Ali G and Trump any time soon. Of course SBC would never worry about his own mustache or being beaten with his own shtick…
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/05/24/sacha-baron-cohen-trump-the-dick-is-lying-about-our-ali-g-encounter.html
(And take a look at the comments).
Modern solo comedians engaged in observational comedy don't have to develop situational comedy or rehearse elaborate gags. They,literally, can just spit venom at some 'out group' for their in group and be considered funny.Replies: @Sam Haysom, @Anonitron2
I’m not trying to be rude, but the in my days all humor was physical humor is indicative of nothing so much as old age. I don’t find Samantha Bee one bit funny, but I don’t even crake a smile when I watch the Three Stooges. The world seems sweeter when you are young and full of vigor it’s best not to conflate that feeling with subjective judgements of quality.
That's just sad.Replies: @Sam Haysom
I agree, but I felt the same way about 95 percent of what John Stewart did. I don’t think lack of humor is necessarily disqualifying for a leftist comedian.
Perhaps it would be well to place Bee in the role of Andy Rooney: A pissed off person who observes various things that she happens not to like. The powers that be, rather than state "Hey, you're not funny, and you got that job 'cause you're well connected", just play along with "Isn't she so very funny? Look how good she is!" Otherwise Bee might direct her ire toward them and call them sexists for not laughing at her jokes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TuyqHl89WjA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ri0qiAita4s
It's also evident that these "comedians" aren't able to make fun of themselves in any insightful way if at all. Their worldview is so fragile that the comedy maintains it - to joke about it is to pull the string that unravels the whole garment.
It should also not go without notice that three of the five late night hosts mentioned in Douthat's piece are foreigners - Bee is Canadian, Oliver a Brit and Noah a South African. Not only are we treated to sneers by self-regarded cultural elites, we're treated to sneers by foreign self-regarded cultural elites.Replies: @Sam Haysom, @Zach, @al gore rhythms, @dr kill
Granted he wasn’t writing the lines, but Oliver’s role on Community was actually a great parody of a hapless Englishman and made a great foil for Joel McHales cocky American bser character.
The wit and wisdom of Pepe The Green Frog….and in-depth academic study by the very distinguished academic Dr. Fegg.
I think the next generation of comedy is taking shape now on Twitter, with lots of wild surrealism, jokes about fear of socialising and going outside and net addiction, exaggerated confessions about psych meds and suicidal urges and sex fetishes and love of junkfood… but not much anti-peecee risktaking, at least about racism… although comediennes on Twitter do exaggerate their sluttishness for laughs.
The Onion continues to skate miraculously along a very fine line of speaking the unspeakable (eg: Report: U.S. Students Lack Language Skills, Vocabulary To Effectively Belittle Classmates)
For further discussion: was Dave Chappelle trying to get himself fired by doing the "Blind Hatred" sketch on his very first episode of Chappelle's Show?Replies: @BenKenobi
I don’t think he was trying to get fired. Although in the monologue for the second episode he remarked how “we haven’t been cancelled yet!”
He kinda lost it around the end of the second season when he came to the opinion that he had enabled Whitey to laugh at darkey. Self-imposed exile to Africa followed after that (wow he was setting a great example now that I think of it).
Of course, Chapelle is so pro-black he married an Asian woman.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TuyqHl89WjA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ri0qiAita4s
It's also evident that these "comedians" aren't able to make fun of themselves in any insightful way if at all. Their worldview is so fragile that the comedy maintains it - to joke about it is to pull the string that unravels the whole garment.
It should also not go without notice that three of the five late night hosts mentioned in Douthat's piece are foreigners - Bee is Canadian, Oliver a Brit and Noah a South African. Not only are we treated to sneers by self-regarded cultural elites, we're treated to sneers by foreign self-regarded cultural elites.Replies: @Sam Haysom, @Zach, @al gore rhythms, @dr kill
Alex Cockburn wrote that “if there’s anything the British like more than laughing at Americans, it’s eating their food and drinking their wine.” That is, food and wine paid for by Americans. It IS funny that Americans will pay large salaries to foreigners to insult them.
I’m glad Douthat brought here to people’s attention. I see the promos for her show when watching Big Bang Theroy reruns on TBS and she acts hysterical. Like she’s so pissed off about Trump she wants to fight about it. It’s weird.
On a side note I caught the end of Pardon the Interruption yesterday and Tony Kormheiser and some Asian guy were talking about how it’s time a white NFL player joined in Colin Kapernick’s protest.
C’mon that’s just lazy.
From the wiki:
Not all leftists are Jews. You have your embittered cat lady leftists, your black radical leftists, your homosexual leftists, your self hating white men leftists, etc.
If all Leftists were Jews than The Democratic Party would never win another presidential election again because Jews make up only 2 to 3 percent of The U.S population. And even within that small percentage not all of them vote Democrat, as the GOP averages about 30 percent of their vote.
It would look something like the comedy of Sabado Gigante.
From Wikipedia:
“Samantha Bee was born in Toronto, Ontario, and has said of her family: “Dating from well before the turn of the 20th century, if there has ever been a successful, happy marriage in my family lineage, I’ve yet to hear about it.”
That seems to be a common thread among left-wingers. An unhappy upbringing or unstable family life, or the perception thereof. I think a lot of left-wing politics has its origins in envy. They seem to think: my family was unhappy and dysfunctional, therefore all families must be so – the very concept of a normal family must be rotten at its core.
But that’s a contradiction then. If a comedian isn’t funny, are they really a “comedian”? Perhaps Bee should be placed in the role of the late Andy Rooney of 60 Minutes. He wasn’t particularly funny, nor was he supposed to be taken that way. And yet, his “didja ever notice” schtick was an early precursor to standup comics such as Seinfeld. But Rooney’s main thing was to supposedly “notice” some various things that appeared to piss him off. Sometimes the way he happened to observe something appeared at least to his generation as funny, and that was what helped solidify his reputation as a somewhat “funny” commentator (especially as he was the only light hearted segment on 60 Minutes, a show which always took itself so so seriously). That was kind of Rooney’s appeal: sarcasm that bordered on outright contempt for everyone within listening viewership but for his time was packaged as “acute” “insightful observations” and “at times, even funny”.
Perhaps it would be well to place Bee in the role of Andy Rooney: A pissed off person who observes various things that she happens not to like. The powers that be, rather than state “Hey, you’re not funny, and you got that job ’cause you’re well connected”, just play along with “Isn’t she so very funny? Look how good she is!” Otherwise Bee might direct her ire toward them and call them sexists for not laughing at her jokes.
“I wonder if Samantha Bee knows anything about the comedy and tastes of her Mexican American compatriots?”
Ms. Bee will fit right in:
Samantha Bee
Oliver looks like a younger version of Keith Olbermann. Wonder where Keith is now since ESPN fired him again?
I go to the Improvs pretty frequently: Hollywood, Brea, Ontario. You can still see a lot of non-PC offensive comedy there, especially at Hollywood’s new “The Lab,” where comics try out new material.
Of course, these non-PC comics are not famous and will never get their own shows on Comedy Central unless they clean up their acts. But the work-a-day comedy world is still, for the time being, a bastion of free speech.
I can’t remember his name, but this one comic I saw recently adopted an East Coast Prep School persona and threw out one-liners for an hour.
“A poll recently said that 8 out of 10 Americans are bigots. Yeah. But what I want to know is, when did we start caring what the Polacks think?”
“The worst part about being a nerd at at a private academy is getting your brunch money stolen.”
He was damn funny.
I also saw Daniel Tosh right after he got heckled by a feminist for making rape jokes. He apologized publicly but at this show he was making fun of the girl and made a few very unapologetic rape jokes.
Dane Cook has gone full SJW. He used to be hilarious. But both his parents died, and that seems to have changed his outlook on life. It’s understandable. Actually, he did a show at the Hollywood Improv (he’s there almost every Wednesday) not long after they died, and it was one of the most depressing things I’ve ever seen. He was clearly trying to channel his emotions through new comedy, but he looked on the verge of tears some of the time.
The West is in the advanced stages of senescence because it can no longer conquer the world actively (there are of course subtler forms of domination).
With that emerges this huge battle for status within the English speaking nations and more particularly in the Anglo-Americsn dynamic. Since political correctness is such a stilted form of being (you essentially have to suspend all observational activity that helps one navigate the real world), it's the mental equivalent of the tightest corset around. The more you can actively disbelieve and stay successful, like said comedian, the more impressive it is.
O/T https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fingerspitzengefühl - a German term about "finger tip feeling", understanding the zeitgeist before it emerges how the Tory & Republican parties (which are the oldest parties in the world) have managed to stay alive and strong all these years. Alt-right is only a manifestation of this..Replies: @EdwardM
Other commentors have referred to a sort of neo-Victorian mentality. Steve’s Nice White Ladies subtly define the parameters of acceptable debate — having internalized the zeitgeist propagated by the far left in academia and media and borne partially from a form of noblesse oblige reflecting their enlightened appreciation of the exotic vibrancy that they crave in theory. (“I love immigration; I can go to a Vietnamese restaurant one night and an Ethiopian the next!” “I am so proud to flaunt pictures of my mixed-race grandchildren!”)
The cosmopolitan salons to which country girls aspired in those days have been replaced by leftist blogs, middle-brow cultural venues like art gallery wine evenings and showings of Hamilton, and women’s book clubs. Instead of the dashing scion of a merchant family, they want to marry a World Bank bureaucrat or fixed-income trader, or perhaps settle for a sustainability director at a major company.
Meanwhile, the rest of white America walks on eggshells for fear of social ostracization.
Dunno. Lots of good stuff out there:Your Show of Shows, Taxi, Cheers , Seinfeld, Curb Your Enthusiasm, The Bob Newhart Show , ….
http://uproxx.com/tv/samantha-bee-double-daily-show-ratings/Replies: @Jack D
I consider myself reasonably well informed and to be honest I had no idea of who Samantha Bee was until she came out and criticized Fallon for allowing Trump to come on his show without denouncing him as a Nazi (until last week, this was the expected norm for all major network talk show hosts, but Bee apparently just rolled the Overton window a little to the left). So maybe this was just a ploy to attract attention. I still haven’t seen her show and have no intention of doing so.
In her own TBS publicity photos she looks like some kind of dessicated scolding cat lady wagging her finger at the things she doesn’t like (EVERYTHING, except her beloved cat Rosa Luxemburg) :
http://variety.com/2016/tv/reviews/full-frontal-with-samantha-bee-review-tbs-1201699977/
Stewart was at least talented in his own way. I get the feeling that even leftists aren’t enjoying his replacements as much as the original and the rating reflect this.
The coming demographic changes will crush the childless white-liberal tribe. Justly deserved. That demographic is the most responsible for leftist idealism. Once their numbers are low enough, they should face consequences.
In my tentative opinion, laughter used to be stimulated by the spectacle of absurdity or by whimsy- comedy used to be the construction of goofy, absurd spectacles or language.
Laughter is now stimulated by and directed at out-of-group figures -comedy is now merely a set of agreed upon in-group cues and catty monologue.Replies: @Erik L, @Greasy William, @unit472, @Almost Missouri, @Forbes, @Neuday, @Fun, @Olorin
This characterizes late night political comedy, which is really a fraction of the whole.
“Come the apocalypse, wimmen like Bee will have to learn how to make me a sammich.”
Come the apocalypse, I hope men like you will send wimmen like Bee to Africa.
Plenty of real wimmen would show their appreciation by making you sammiches and making you….happy.
Per usual amongst the backgrounds of those loathsome and evil enough to force their SJW/feminist ‘comedy’ into the mainstream media, Samantha Bee has claimed that “dating from well before the turn of the 20th century, if there has ever been a successful, happy marriage in my family lineage, I’ve yet to hear about it.” Oh, and she and her show set up a “blinded process for hiring writers that hid the gender and experience level of the applicants, resulting in a writing staff that is approximately half female and 30% non-white.” I’m sure that was strong enough of a virtue-signalling career move amongst her milieu of guilty leftists that TBS renegotiated her contract for an extra few million and a clause promising future Emmy nominations.
Sailerites, help me out. I can’t find a link to the NYT editorial where they opposed immigration because it hurt the working class. I think it was circa 2001?
Bee, like all women “comedians” trades on her looks on way or another. Melissa McCarthy is the fat chick doing inappropriate things, Chelsea Handler the drunk one, and Sarah Silverman the one with the little girl voice saying dirty things. Only McCArthy has lasting schtick, Handler is far less funny as she got older and less pretty, same with Silverman. There is nothing sadder than a woman who used to be hot still trading on fading looks. Its like a former High School Athlete still pretending he can run for a touchdown as he battle arthritis in his sixties.
Bee used to be pretty, now she’s just another faded older chick.
That she’s still employed tells you something. What is wrong with the West is the move from a popular representative democracy mostly but not exclusively run by White men to a Dynastic, Aristocratic rule by mostly, but not exclusively, White women.
Just today, the FT had an article in the opinion section about Brangelina’s Divorce Lawyer, some formerly hot chick whose father founded and runs her law firm. I forget which Brangelina the chick is representing, her fame apparently stems from handing a Kardashian divorce. But what struck me was her personal life; divorced from some “dude from Spain” as she put it, she has two kids by a different man each.
This is the disaster of the West — like German princes who out of fairness divided their estates so Germany had competing microstates all nasty and fragile — Western Big Shots pushed their inheritances to unsuitable daughters who act like powerful women everywhere. Preferring transient sexy dominance from their men instead of beta male provisioning.
And that’s why you have harpies like Bee are hectoring about Social Status; and given a platform. A society of Female Aristocrats running things will be motivated by HATE HATE HATE of ordinary White people, particularly White men, and pathetic and stupid elevation of failed Third World peoples as objects of worship. Male Aristocrats would as Steve point out, make a point of elevating those in the lower classes who showed loyalty and ability. Female societies run like Mean Girls on steroids.
And there is nothing more pathetic and stupid than a woman like Samantha Bee who used to turn heads posturing like she’s 25 and still hot and therefore people are interested in her because she’s hot.
Here’s a classic example of burying need to know information deeeeep into a story.
Headline
“Swedish Men Coerce Their Wives Into Prostitution as a Supplement to “Family Budget””
full story here
Read more: https://sputniknews.com/europe/20160907/1045046239/sweden-prostitution-human-trafficking.html
Lead para
“Sweden’s Migration Board has been sounding the alarm over a marked increase in cases involving human trafficking, with a number of cases making headlines. However, police point out that prostitution no longer involves clear associations with foreign organized crime and is more closely linked with spousal abuse.”
several paragraphs later
“Another marked difference from the previously known criminal routine is that women who are being sold for sexual purposes have had a longer presence in Sweden. Many of them even grew up in the country.”
Not born there I note, “Swedish men” indeed
Headline"Swedish Men Coerce Their Wives Into Prostitution as a Supplement to "Family Budget""full story here
Read more: https://sputniknews.com/europe/20160907/1045046239/sweden-prostitution-human-trafficking.htmlLead para"Sweden's Migration Board has been sounding the alarm over a marked increase in cases involving human trafficking, with a number of cases making headlines. However, police point out that prostitution no longer involves clear associations with foreign organized crime and is more closely linked with spousal abuse."
several paragraphs later
"Another marked difference from the previously known criminal routine is that women who are being sold for sexual purposes have had a longer presence in Sweden. Many of them even grew up in the country."Not born there I note, "Swedish men" indeedReplies: @Bill Jones, @ganderson
http://news.fark.com/newdata/adpreview?ad=2299342&bl=86380&ct=adpreview&st=14
Apparently not in the case of Larry Wilmore, because his shit has been cancelled.
I thought clapping was a microaggression, or was it macroaggression, because it can trigger PTSD in those who fear Haven Monahan?
Fluttering twinklehands, please!
In my tentative opinion, laughter used to be stimulated by the spectacle of absurdity or by whimsy- comedy used to be the construction of goofy, absurd spectacles or language.
Laughter is now stimulated by and directed at out-of-group figures -comedy is now merely a set of agreed upon in-group cues and catty monologue.Replies: @Erik L, @Greasy William, @unit472, @Almost Missouri, @Forbes, @Neuday, @Fun, @Olorin
Among many, true. But when you cut the TV cable and stop consuming that stuff, you find comedy elsewhere.
For instance, I used to laugh hilariously at The Onion. Then one day in 1999 I realized they were pulling their punches.
http://www.theonion.com/blogpost/i-hope-my-baby-doesnt-come-out-all-fucked-up-and-s-10917
Yeah, they made the writer a white hipster/Rainbow Family type.
Then I saw they never made fun of blacks. (Smoov B doesn’t count.) Then they were bought out by that Jewish publisher in NYC (2000 or 2001), and plummeted.
They always however made ample, constant, and unending fun of white people.
These days I get a lot of my out-loud laughs from the comments right here and elsewhere on alt-right sites. Also our dinner table. There may be genuine comedy elsewhere, but I haven’t found it.
For me, the final nail in the Onion’s coffin was the mea culpa following the Q. Wallis tweet.
My explanation’s a bit simpler. PC is successful because if you violate it, the powerful will smash you.
Much funnier than Bee’s attempt. Maybe she’s the straight man?
Yeah, when he called that guy a “sleaze,” now that was funny.
And you certainly don't give him his own show:
http://www.counter-currents.com/2014/05/look-whos-back/Replies: @Altai, @C. Van Carter
Why not? Doesn’t look so bad.
Bee has like four children and is married
From the wiki:Not all leftists are Jews. You have your embittered cat lady leftists, your black radical leftists, your homosexual leftists, your self hating white men leftists, etc.Replies: @James Kabala, @Jefferson
Bee is not only not Jewish but is married with three children, so she doesn’t really qualify as “cat lady leftist” either. Show business people just seem to gravitate toward the left even if their own personal lives are normal and stable (as those of Stewart, Colbert, and Oliver also seem to be).
What does Dennis Miller do these days besides playing O'Reilly's stooge?Replies: @Anon, @James Kabala, @Brutusale
Speaking of Samantha Bee and jokes, did you hear the one about her children’s school being relocated to a black neighborhood?
http://www.wnyc.org/story/advice-jason-jones-upper-west-side-parents-dont-talk-press/
I watched The Daily Show when it was originally hosted by Craig Kilborn. It was funny and less political until Kilborn quit and was replaced by that sawed-on Jonathan Leibowitz.
And you certainly don't give him his own show:
http://www.counter-currents.com/2014/05/look-whos-back/Replies: @Altai, @C. Van Carter
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Black_Book_of_CommunismReplies: @Jim Don Bob
+1. Truly an eye-opening book that was ignored by the MS and never refuted.
At least 100 million people murdered by their own governments in the 20th century. But Donald Trump is Hitler.
See also Bloodlands – https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bloodlands
One of the the correspondents was kind of funny though.Replies: @Jim Don Bob, @415 reasons
Agreed. I watched it once and thought it was retarded.
So physical comedy is ageist.
That’s just sad.
http://www.nytimes.com/2000/02/22/opinion/hasty-call-for-amnesty.html?_r=0
From Wikipedia:
"Samantha Bee was born in Toronto, Ontario, and has said of her family: "Dating from well before the turn of the 20th century, if there has ever been a successful, happy marriage in my family lineage, I've yet to hear about it."[3] Bee's parents split up soon after her birth, and she was initially raised by her grandmother, who worked as a secretary at the Catholic school Bee attended,[4] on Roncesvalles Avenue during her childhood. She attended Humberside Collegiate Institute and York Memorial Collegiate Institute.
After graduating from high school, Bee attended McGill University, where she studied humanities. Dissatisfied with a range of issues at the school, she transferred to the University of Ottawa after her first year. Bee later enrolled in the George Brown Theatre School in Toronto.[5]"Replies: @Another Canadian, @CJ
“Samantha Bee was born in Toronto, Ontario…”
You Americans can have her, she’s all yours. Another Canadian NAFTA export to the USA.
It's sad. I am old enough to remember when Canada was a peaceful Commonwealth country that was proud of its British heritage. The beginning of the end, I think, was when they adopted that stupid Maple Leaf flag. My Canadian grandfather called it Pearson's pennant.
When all the sanctimonious Insufferables from Hollywood start trying to flee to Canada, our Maple Syrup farming friends north of the border will likely gladly build their wall and pay for it too...
I’ve said it many times – the world view of the left works best as a comedy routine. Why? Because with comedy, you get to exaggerate excessively, you get to be vitriolic about people you don’t like and you get to promote simplistic ideas that appeal to emotion rather than reason.
Bill Maher’s and Jon Stewart’s popularity are a testimony to this, as well.
Also note how SNL has rarely made a joke about BHO, even though there is a ton of material - corpse-man, 57 states. speaking Austrian. But Dubya was a dumb ass.Replies: @J1234, @dr kill, @James Kabala
The last Neilson ratings I saw had her show slightly above Larry Wilmore’s, so if they don’t write better material said writing staff is likely to be 100% unemployed – which would be the funniest thing they’ve ever done.
You Americans can have her, she's all yours. Another Canadian NAFTA export to the USA.Replies: @syonredux, @Jim Don Bob, @Thin-Skinned Masta-Beta, @Perspective
In her own TBS publicity photos she looks like some kind of dessicated scolding cat lady wagging her finger at the things she doesn't like (EVERYTHING, except her beloved cat Rosa Luxemburg) :
http://variety.com/2016/tv/reviews/full-frontal-with-samantha-bee-review-tbs-1201699977/
Stewart was at least talented in his own way. I get the feeling that even leftists aren't enjoying his replacements as much as the original and the rating reflect this.Replies: @Yojimbo/Zatoichi, @Jim Don Bob
Samantha Bee kinda resembles British comic Tracey Ulmann. Wonder whatever happened to her? She was funny back in the day, then just went into semi-retirement. Tracey was definitely funny and even had a top ten hit on Billboard, “They Don’t Know”.
OT but so outrageous, yet predictable: the NYT’s hagiographic piece on the supposed ‘class clown’ Afghan Muslim NYC bomber Ahmad Khan Rahami.
For example, were you aware that his ‘story has nuances’ because of ‘how difficult it was for him to make it in America’?
They managed to find someone who actually compared this clan of criminal Arabs to the (wait for it)…von Trapp family!!
Also enjoy the furious revisionist history of Rahami & Co.’s violent stabbings, assorted assaults, scams and varied sundry crimes as mere ‘minor nuisances’.
Modern solo comedians engaged in observational comedy don't have to develop situational comedy or rehearse elaborate gags. They,literally, can just spit venom at some 'out group' for their in group and be considered funny.Replies: @Sam Haysom, @Anonitron2
Anytime someone describes the Three Stooges or other Vaudeville hack work as funny I feel like I’ve stumbled into some kind of temporal displacement. This comments section belongs in an assisted living facility.
Why’s it matter that “late-night comedy has been taken over by the left?” Does he who controls late-night comedy, control the Indian Ocean sea-lanes? At least with the bickering about leftist academia you can point to real trillions of wasted OPM. But I don’t care if liberal dorks are big wheels in the frozen-yogurt sector. It’s capitalism.
I sincerely believe that the left’s rediscovery of the all-purpose insult “bigot” has severely hampered their ability to follow logical arguments.
SNL just hired its first “Latina” cast member. I use quote marks because, while she has a Spanish name, anyone who saw her walking down the street would assume she’s white.
And it turns out the first Latina member of SNL is a racist. Seems that immediately after her hiring was announced, people noticed that she began furiously deleting something like two thousand of her past tweets, many of which apparently mocked blacks and Asians.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/first-snl-latina-cast-member-caught-deleting-racist-tweets_us_57e55c37e4b0e80b1ba1b97b?section=&
In her own TBS publicity photos she looks like some kind of dessicated scolding cat lady wagging her finger at the things she doesn't like (EVERYTHING, except her beloved cat Rosa Luxemburg) :
http://variety.com/2016/tv/reviews/full-frontal-with-samantha-bee-review-tbs-1201699977/
Stewart was at least talented in his own way. I get the feeling that even leftists aren't enjoying his replacements as much as the original and the rating reflect this.Replies: @Yojimbo/Zatoichi, @Jim Don Bob
I’d never heard of Samantha Bee until this post. Steve, can we go back to golf courses, please?
No, I don’t think anyone finds them funny. The avid viewers of the Daily Show whom I know seem like they have fragile egos. They watch it to get the Correct Perspective on the news so they can hate Badwhites together and feel good about themselves. Higher-functioning liberal Millennials will watch and share a clip on Facebook but won’t watch the entire show.
Fluttering twinklehands, please!Replies: @Jim Don Bob
Speaking of Haven Monahan, a Virginia judge has ruled that U.Va. dean Nicole Eramo’s suit against Rolling Stone can go to trial. http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/rolling-stone-gang-rape-defamation-case-will-go-to-trial/article/2602729
We're in the thick of fall landwork so I'm missing a lot online.
I wonder if any of the commenters here can remember precisely when anti-amnesty positions became taboo, or at least tipped over into polite society’s wastebin.
During the 2006-2007 era of melting down the congressional switchboards over proposed amnesty legislation, it was merely an out-of-step position, not an evil one.
The media – owned by the cheap labor lobby – wants to deflect attention away from unemployment and gangbanging and onto the police.
For money.
The media are the problem.
You Americans can have her, she's all yours. Another Canadian NAFTA export to the USA.Replies: @syonredux, @Jim Don Bob, @Thin-Skinned Masta-Beta, @Perspective
How about some more John Candy or Martin Short types? You know, people who are funny. Of course now that you have Justin Bieber, I mean Trudeau, as PM, I am sure the various Human Rights Commissions will be policing comedy too.
It’s sad. I am old enough to remember when Canada was a peaceful Commonwealth country that was proud of its British heritage. The beginning of the end, I think, was when they adopted that stupid Maple Leaf flag. My Canadian grandfather called it Pearson’s pennant.
I think I agree with the NYT Frank Bruni column they’re showing: If DJT keeps cool & collected during the debate he wins in a walk. He can even afford to ignore some % of the hair-on-fire insults lobbed by Hillary (or moderators). Though anger has been key to the Trump nomination it’s nowhere as necessary to making the sale as the hateful, hate-filled standard of contemporary lib rhetoric holds. Actually Hillary is capable of toning it down too. With her slim lead I’d expect her to not shout first. She may try to bait DJT with a cheap shot at the start. He has to plan for that since it will be coming, before the 10-min mark when the most casual viewers are tuning out.
As Scott Adams has repeatedly said, DJT is a troll master.Replies: @40 Acres and A Kardashian, @Lot, @Barnard, @anonymous
Thanks Steve. You’re the best.
Bill Maher's and Jon Stewart's popularity are a testimony to this, as well.Replies: @Jim Don Bob
The Left also has no sense of humor about itself. Try to imagine a left version of Jeff Foxworthy’s Blue Collar where they are mocking the audience and the audience loves it. Never happen.
Also note how SNL has rarely made a joke about BHO, even though there is a ton of material – corpse-man, 57 states. speaking Austrian. But Dubya was a dumb ass.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TuyqHl89WjA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ri0qiAita4s
It's also evident that these "comedians" aren't able to make fun of themselves in any insightful way if at all. Their worldview is so fragile that the comedy maintains it - to joke about it is to pull the string that unravels the whole garment.
It should also not go without notice that three of the five late night hosts mentioned in Douthat's piece are foreigners - Bee is Canadian, Oliver a Brit and Noah a South African. Not only are we treated to sneers by self-regarded cultural elites, we're treated to sneers by foreign self-regarded cultural elites.Replies: @Sam Haysom, @Zach, @al gore rhythms, @dr kill
What’s with all the t-shirt twitching and the nose wiping? Is this guy off his head on coke?
What’re the odds Hill mentions birtherism in her opening statement?
Better than even she shoehorns it in before the real policy questions start.
You are incorrect. The Three Stooges are magnificent, albeit generally in small doses (which is why their output consisted of ten minute shorts).
That's just sad.Replies: @Sam Haysom
No it just appeals almost entirely to older people. As people age their brains slow down falling down the stairs and having some poke your eye out don’t require much brain power to take in.
guess
Unfortunately she will probally be alright. Larry Wilmores dreadful show got axed because it was failing to hold onto the preceding daily shows audience. Samantha Bee doesn’t have a prime lead in show like that plus it’s weekly on basic cable so it will gets lots of latitude.
It used to be that one would have to dig deep before uncovering the anger and frustration with life that was the basis of much of classical comedy. No more. What passes for “comedy” these days is totally artless and is almost indistinguishable from raw anger (i.e. Chris Rock).
In Hollywood, if you don’t “gravitate to the left” you don’t eat.
What does Dennis Miller do these days besides playing O’Reilly’s stooge?
A recent New York Times piece on the efforts of Upper West Side parents trying to avoid excessive school integration quoted her husband, who–if I read correctly– objected to a rezoning in which his kids would even have to walk by a majority minority school.
What we're seeing from Bee is that tgis is projection. Shitlibs make their comedy try to conform completely to political trends. The shrillest harpies in Salem accusing others of witchcraft would blush at the sanctimony of their ideological descendents.Replies: @guest, @Lot
That is a B.S. argument twice over.
One of the the correspondents was kind of funny though.Replies: @Jim Don Bob, @415 reasons
I have caught the commercials for Samantha Bee’s new show while watching Seinfeld re-runs, and it looks almost painfully unfunny. The Daily Show could at times be obnoxiously leftist, but Stewart was at least genuinely funny, even if he was biased in who he aimed his satire at. But good lord, this new show looks so bad, and similarly The Daily Show after they brought in the AA hire to replace Stewart is so bad it’s cringeworthy to watch for even a few moments. Like watching a psychology experiment where you’re the only one who knows that the audience won’t be electroshocked if they don’t laugh.
You Americans can have her, she's all yours. Another Canadian NAFTA export to the USA.Replies: @syonredux, @Jim Don Bob, @Thin-Skinned Masta-Beta, @Perspective
A whole lotta walls gotta get built…
When all the sanctimonious Insufferables from Hollywood start trying to flee to Canada, our Maple Syrup farming friends north of the border will likely gladly build their wall and pay for it too…
So many journalists seem to have interned at The Onion:
https://variety.com/2016/film/news/wanda-lawmakers-raise-questions-about-chinese-investment-in-hollywood-1201868250/
Perhaps they should be more concerned about Canadian control of Hollywood.
Was South Park engaging in a little bit of dog-whistle humor there?
It’s clappy humor. The line isn’t funny, but it makes the audience feel good, because it’s in line with their own extremely conformist politics. They don’t laugh, they fake laugh and then applaud themselves, signaling unanimous agreement. Women love this sort of humor.
David Cross is a good example. He’s a good comedic actor ( with limited range) but his standup is for shit.
A lot of imaginary conversations with 2-dimensional composite retarded rednecks. The good thing about imaginary verbal battles is you always win.
Bee and that sort are really flattering their audience, in the same way (as Steve has noted) the Times flatters their readers.
Also, no matter how sophisticated they are, Canadians know they’re essentially midwesterners when they get to NY, so they often try extra hard in their virtue signaling.
Anyway, It’s a living. There are some good young comics doing more interesting stuff, but everyone sees who is getting their own shows and why.
What we're seeing from Bee is that tgis is projection. Shitlibs make their comedy try to conform completely to political trends. The shrillest harpies in Salem accusing others of witchcraft would blush at the sanctimony of their ideological descendents.Replies: @guest, @Lot
These days liberals aren’t too funny either because they have increasing cultural power, making them both smug and censorious. But the mainstream right really has never had anyone that was too funny, or have there been many professional comedians whose views alight with, say, the average GOP primary voter who voted for Bush over Buchanan.
The National Review back page which tried to be lightly comedic for a long time was Florence King or Derb, both paleocons. Hard to see Ponnuru or K-Lo doing the same.
I can say that I wasn’t sad to see that show on Comedy Central with Larry Wilmore fronting as a newscaster cancelled. The entire premise of the show was to crack jokes at Donald Trump and make fun of white people in general. I always found it interesting when the camera would span the audience, it was so segregated with whites on one side and blacks on the other. The white people would clap half heartedly while the blacks were whooping it up, slapping their knees, and having a good time.
Hopefully Wilmore will be able to land a show on BET or OWN.
I can say that I wasn’t sad to see cancelled that show on Comedy Central with Larry Wilmore fronting as a newscaster.
I know people do this rather unaware, but I seem to notice it more and more. Instead of rearranging the sentence to keep the verb phrase together, the writer allows it to get separated by various phrases. I am not saying it is wrong per se, just curious.
They’re not paid to insult the Americans paying them, they’re paid to insult other Americans, which isn’t particularly funny.
You Americans can have her, she's all yours. Another Canadian NAFTA export to the USA.Replies: @syonredux, @Jim Don Bob, @Thin-Skinned Masta-Beta, @Perspective
Like yourself, I am Canadian, in fact I live in the Greater Toronto Area. The comic drain that brought the likes of John Candy and Rick Moranis to the US so they could achieve greater fame and fortune (who can blame them?), has resulted in a hypersensitive SJW hive mind to form here.
The National Review back page which tried to be lightly comedic for a long time was Florence King or Derb, both paleocons. Hard to see Ponnuru or K-Lo doing the same.Replies: @Desiderius, @guest
Mainstream conservatism is more about tragedy than comedy, which left a huge void that the alt-right is now filling.
Slightly OT: Gennifer Flowers has accepted DJT’s invitation to the debate (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/09/24/bill-clinton-accuser-gennifer-flowers-accepts-donald-trumps-invitation-to-attend-debate/).
As Scott Adams has repeatedly said, DJT is a troll master.
My name is Gennifer G. Flowers. I am over twenty-one years of age and I am fully competent to make this declaration.
1. I met Bill Clinton in 1977 while I was working as a news reporter for KARK-TV in Little Rock, Arkansas. Shortly after we met, we began a sexual relationship that lasted for twelve years.
[the rest below the fold]
2. In the late 1970's I moved away from Little Rock, living in Tulsa, Oklahoma, Branson, Missouri and Dallas, Texas. Bill Clinton and I maintained our relationship during this time. I returned to Little Rock in the mid-1980's. We discussed my return to Little Rock and he indicated that he wanted to see me and continue our personal relationship. He encouraged me to come back and advised me to move into Quapaw Tower, a high-rise apartment building located in Little Rock. He told me that he had aides in the building and that it wouldn't be so noticeable for him to come to that building to visit me. Chris Burrows, an employee of the State of Arkansas lived in the building.
3. Once I moved to the Quapaw Tower in Little Rock we continued our personal relationship on a more regular basis. Arkansas security officers assigned to the Governor's Office drove Bill to the building and waited for him while he visited me. Bill's visits were observed by and talked about by a watchman employed by Quapaw Tower, which upset Bill as he intensely verbalized in my tape-recorded conversation with him of December 1990. John Kauffman, manager of Quapaw Tower witnessed Bill's visits to my apartment and complained about his car and driver parking in the building's unloading zone for hours at a time.
4. Bill Clinton also instructed me to call either Larry Patterson or Roger Perry in order to communicate. He told me that he felt that he could trust them, and they were people that would help us communicate when necessary.
5. In early 1990 I told Bill Clinton that I wanted a job with the state. Bill Clinton told me to contact his assistant Judy Gaddy who would assist me with the application for employment. I met with Judy Gaddy in her office and she provided me with the details of what needed to be on the application. Judy Gaddy also told me to contact Clara Clark who set up a job interview for me. I was eventually employed by the state as an administrative assistant for the Arkansas Appeal Tribunal.
6. Shortly after I was employed by the state, another woman who had applied for my job filed a grievance or some sort of complaint in which she alleged that she was more qualified and implied that the only reason I got the job was because I had had an affair with Bill Clinton. I was called to testify before a panel in connection with this proceeding. When I learned that I would have to testify, I did not know what to do, so I called Bill Clinton. I told him that I had been called to testify and asked what I should say. He told me to deny that we had ever had an affair. During the proceeding, when questions came up about my relationship to Bill, Don Barnes, his appointee and head of the commission, stopped the questioning.
7. On several occasions, I discussed with Bill Clinton the subject of inquiries by the media about our relationship. He told me to continue to deny our relationship, that if we would stick together, everything would be okay. In one conversation which occurred while Bill Clinton was running for the Democratic Presidential nomination in 1991, we were discussing media coverage of Larry Nichols' lawsuit and the women who were alleged in the complaint in that lawsuit to have had affairs with Bill Clinton. In that context he said: "...if all the people who are named [in the Nichols lawsuit] deny it. That's all, I mean, I expect them to look into it and interview you and everything, uh, but I just think that if everybody is on the record denying it, you got no problem."
8. The conversations in this Declaration also refer to the tape-recorded conversations I had with Bill Clinton in 1990 and 1991. Those recordings were not altered or "doctored" in any manner.
I declare under penalty of perjury that the foregoing is true and correct.
Executed on March 12, 1998
(signed)
Gennifer G. Flowers
I know Trump has his way of doing things, and in some respects I can't blame him. But this isn't about a casino development or a new condominium. Even he should understand this isn't appropriate behaviour at this stage of a campaign for President of the United States.
It's a sad spectacle to witness. The process has devolved into garish, televised joke.
He'll probably have a special 'Celebrity Apprentice' to select his cabinet.Replies: @Brutusale
I get more laughs and wit by reading the iSteve commenters. Sam Kinison, crazy and funny. These jerkoffs, tedious.Replies: @Granesperanzablanco
Funny under 50
Dave Chappelle (been in the audience in small club where he did three + hours effortlessly). Show was wildly funny
Louie CK
Zack Galafanakas
Kumail Nanjani (saw this guy in a club very funny)
Paul F Tompkins
Key and Peele show (underrated, funny not really a “black” show)
Aziz ( although oddly I don’t like his show)
Mike Birbiglia
Douthat’s take on the culture wars is pretty good, up to the point where he calls Trump an extremist. Trump isn’t a danger to the liberal cultural establishment because he is extreme or reactionary, but because he largely avoids the culture wars, and focuses on trade, immigration and national security. He likes a Guderian or a MacAthur who avoids getting bogged down fighting strategically unimportant targets prepared by the enemy and boldly presses on towards the enemy’s capital.
America has already had the “oh my balls” show its called Jackass.
You are correct about the difference in what other countries (culture) find funny.
I actually recall a show from Brazil in which random audience members submit their underwear for DNA testing and at the end of the show they reveal to the audience what they found in the shorts or panties. It is obviously fake because to determine by scientific study what all of the stains are in someone’s underwear are would take way more than an hour, however the audience thought it was really funny, who would of thought.
Tracey is just hoping to live long enough to whenever the last episode of “The Simpsons” airs, and, Bob Newhart-like, all the decades of the program are revealed to have been an extended sketch of her eponymous show.
From the wiki:Not all leftists are Jews. You have your embittered cat lady leftists, your black radical leftists, your homosexual leftists, your self hating white men leftists, etc.Replies: @James Kabala, @Jefferson
“Not all leftists are Jews. You have your embittered cat lady leftists, your black radical leftists, your homosexual leftists, your self hating white men leftists, etc.”
If all Leftists were Jews than The Democratic Party would never win another presidential election again because Jews make up only 2 to 3 percent of The U.S population. And even within that small percentage not all of them vote Democrat, as the GOP averages about 30 percent of their vote.
the banking mafia intend to move to China (and a lesser extent India)
they’ve been sending people like Cameron to trade unlimited immigration to the West for access to Chindia’s financial sectors for the last few years
hence engineering a war between Russia and the West – last man standing gets to be the banking mafia’s new enforcer
that’s the plan anyway
it won’t work because their behavior patterns evolved in an earlier era
might cause WW3 though
As Scott Adams has repeatedly said, DJT is a troll master.Replies: @40 Acres and A Kardashian, @Lot, @Barnard, @anonymous
Now, if Trump can just get Juanita Broadrick to come, and sanwich Cuba between the two women!
Debates don’t often change presidential races. Is 2016 the exception?
I love the framing here. Biased journalism we get from the media: “Trump is up in states with less-educated white electorates, like Iowa and Nevada. But he’s really a loser, because he can’t win over less-educated white voters in Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Wisconsin.”
Unbiased journalism we could have: “Trump is up in some states heavy with these voters, while Clinton is up in others.”
As to the point of the piece, there’s a much bigger up-side to these debates for Trump than is usual, because the press has moved Heaven and Earth to portray him as a wild-eyed lunatic. In reality, he’s not at all a wild-eyed lunatic, so 270 minutes of him showing the media up as liars will be very instructive, to the hundred million or so Americans who tune in. And on the other side, the media has been downplaying the
Conspiracy Theoryreality that Illary is a mess, a swivel-eyed recluse who can barely keep even her anti-social schedule without collapsing into mobile health vans, or succumbing to coughing fits.When you enter ‘European people art’ into google image search, the first few dozen or so results are black people.
I could excuse it if she were hot…
Hahahahahahaha.
‘Cept it isn’t. If ice-cream makers refused to sell anything with chocolate in it, maybe.
This sort of thing isn’t new. Does anybody remember during Obama’s second campaign , Michel Obama was on the view and she was treated like royalty. A couple of days later Mitt Romney’s wife came on and was met with a very cold shoulder. I remember seeing Joy Behar shaking her head and rolling her eyes when the guest would speak, basically being very rude.
I also noticed that there were a lot British reporters at the Charlotte press conferences bringing up the issue of gun violence in America and when will we wake up.
When will they learn not to try to meddle in our constitutional rights. Especially since they have basically given the keys to their country to invading Muslims.
As Scott Adams has repeatedly said, DJT is a troll master.Replies: @40 Acres and A Kardashian, @Lot, @Barnard, @anonymous
Declaration of Gennifer G. Flowers
My name is Gennifer G. Flowers. I am over twenty-one years of age and I am fully competent to make this declaration.
1. I met Bill Clinton in 1977 while I was working as a news reporter for KARK-TV in Little Rock, Arkansas. Shortly after we met, we began a sexual relationship that lasted for twelve years.
[the rest below the fold]
2. In the late 1970’s I moved away from Little Rock, living in Tulsa, Oklahoma, Branson, Missouri and Dallas, Texas. Bill Clinton and I maintained our relationship during this time. I returned to Little Rock in the mid-1980’s. We discussed my return to Little Rock and he indicated that he wanted to see me and continue our personal relationship. He encouraged me to come back and advised me to move into Quapaw Tower, a high-rise apartment building located in Little Rock. He told me that he had aides in the building and that it wouldn’t be so noticeable for him to come to that building to visit me. Chris Burrows, an employee of the State of Arkansas lived in the building.
3. Once I moved to the Quapaw Tower in Little Rock we continued our personal relationship on a more regular basis. Arkansas security officers assigned to the Governor’s Office drove Bill to the building and waited for him while he visited me. Bill’s visits were observed by and talked about by a watchman employed by Quapaw Tower, which upset Bill as he intensely verbalized in my tape-recorded conversation with him of December 1990. John Kauffman, manager of Quapaw Tower witnessed Bill’s visits to my apartment and complained about his car and driver parking in the building’s unloading zone for hours at a time.
4. Bill Clinton also instructed me to call either Larry Patterson or Roger Perry in order to communicate. He told me that he felt that he could trust them, and they were people that would help us communicate when necessary.
5. In early 1990 I told Bill Clinton that I wanted a job with the state. Bill Clinton told me to contact his assistant Judy Gaddy who would assist me with the application for employment. I met with Judy Gaddy in her office and she provided me with the details of what needed to be on the application. Judy Gaddy also told me to contact Clara Clark who set up a job interview for me. I was eventually employed by the state as an administrative assistant for the Arkansas Appeal Tribunal.
6. Shortly after I was employed by the state, another woman who had applied for my job filed a grievance or some sort of complaint in which she alleged that she was more qualified and implied that the only reason I got the job was because I had had an affair with Bill Clinton. I was called to testify before a panel in connection with this proceeding. When I learned that I would have to testify, I did not know what to do, so I called Bill Clinton. I told him that I had been called to testify and asked what I should say. He told me to deny that we had ever had an affair. During the proceeding, when questions came up about my relationship to Bill, Don Barnes, his appointee and head of the commission, stopped the questioning.
7. On several occasions, I discussed with Bill Clinton the subject of inquiries by the media about our relationship. He told me to continue to deny our relationship, that if we would stick together, everything would be okay. In one conversation which occurred while Bill Clinton was running for the Democratic Presidential nomination in 1991, we were discussing media coverage of Larry Nichols’ lawsuit and the women who were alleged in the complaint in that lawsuit to have had affairs with Bill Clinton. In that context he said: “…if all the people who are named [in the Nichols lawsuit] deny it. That’s all, I mean, I expect them to look into it and interview you and everything, uh, but I just think that if everybody is on the record denying it, you got no problem.”
8. The conversations in this Declaration also refer to the tape-recorded conversations I had with Bill Clinton in 1990 and 1991. Those recordings were not altered or “doctored” in any manner.
I declare under penalty of perjury that the foregoing is true and correct.
Executed on March 12, 1998
(signed)
Gennifer G. Flowers
I think she is spending some quality time in retirement enjoying her $100+ million fortune.
Did Amy Schumer have an identical twin? Did epigenetic disasters generate sufficient birth defects in the Un-Amy twin that the Schumers quietly decided to foist her off on an unsuspecting goy family by putting her up for adoption in Canada? Yes answers would go a long way towards explaining the striking resemblances between Bee and Schumer
My kids are far funnier than a lot of comedy out there. My younger son is very clever and comes up with lots of very funny unexpected one liners. We really enjoy him.
From Wikipedia:
"Samantha Bee was born in Toronto, Ontario, and has said of her family: "Dating from well before the turn of the 20th century, if there has ever been a successful, happy marriage in my family lineage, I've yet to hear about it."[3] Bee's parents split up soon after her birth, and she was initially raised by her grandmother, who worked as a secretary at the Catholic school Bee attended,[4] on Roncesvalles Avenue during her childhood. She attended Humberside Collegiate Institute and York Memorial Collegiate Institute.
After graduating from high school, Bee attended McGill University, where she studied humanities. Dissatisfied with a range of issues at the school, she transferred to the University of Ottawa after her first year. Bee later enrolled in the George Brown Theatre School in Toronto.[5]"Replies: @Another Canadian, @CJ
If I may be so bold as to translate that into American, this is pretty much the equivalent of somebody transferring from Stanford to Cal-Northridge and then to a community college.
(maybe she felt overprivileged at McGill?)Replies: @PiltdownMan
A bit OT, but somewhat related.
Now researchers are claiming now that video games are causing young men, particularly vibrant ones, to choose a lifestyle of sitting around home playing games instead of working.
http://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/why-amazing-video-games-could-be-causing-a-big-problem-for-america/ar-BBwxQ5P?li=BBnbfcL
“Young men without college degrees have replaced 75% of the time they used to spend working with time on the computer, mostly playing video games…”
“The researchers are not merely saying that young men, out of work, are increasingly turning to video games. They’re saying that increasingly sophisticated video games are luring young men away from the workforce.”
In other words, its a video game’s fault they’re out of work. Just like its the school’s fault they did poorly in school and didn’t go to college.
There are quite a few white men, that aren’t Jewish, that do this as well. None of this would be possible without them. Chris Hayes comes to mind.
After George Zimmerman’s defamation case against NBC News was dismissed, I’ve wondered if it’s possible to win any case against the media.
Tons of money (and a good case) changes everything. Go to Gawker’s (for now) archived site—all the years of comments have vanished.
How did Tracey Ulmann make $100 million?
What does Dennis Miller do these days besides playing O'Reilly's stooge?Replies: @Anon, @James Kabala, @Brutusale
I used to listen to his radio show which ran for about 8 years or so. It was really great but by 2012, he was just totally burned out on Obama. He’s a pretty happy guy and you could tell that marinating in negative thoughts everyday really wore on him. He ended up not re-signing.
Dave Chappelle (been in the audience in small club where he did three + hours effortlessly). Show was wildly funny
Louie CK
Zack Galafanakas
Kumail Nanjani (saw this guy in a club very funny)
Paul F Tompkins
Key and Peele show (underrated, funny not really a "black" show)
Aziz ( although oddly I don't like his show)
Mike BirbigliaReplies: @Anon
John Mulaney’s last Netflix special is pretty solid.
Yes, but why does that publisher hate us? That publisher enjoys the best that can be had in the world. Brought to that publisher through the good graces of Christianity. Maybe there was a golf course membership involved? Or an unreciprocated love interest?
I fear the genuine backlash that must inevitably come. I fear that my friends will be punished for the sins of their brethren. Maybe, just maybe, the children of Jacob could reconsider where they have placed their bets?
No, of course not. Just gain control of the government and you can stomp on a human face forever.
Just like French Aristocrats.
Population genetics.
As Scott Adams has repeatedly said, DJT is a troll master.Replies: @40 Acres and A Kardashian, @Lot, @Barnard, @anonymous
The Clintons are both sociopaths. Seeing any of the people they have trampled over the years doesn’t phase them in the least. The Dole Campaign stuck Billy Dale from the White House travel office scandal in the front row at a debate in 1996. I doubt Bill even knew who he was.
Am I to understand that Ms. Bee has not completed a course of study conferring upon her an undergraduate degree? Some elites we have!
No shame necessary in not having a degree, but the degree of obfuscation & embellishment by Mr. Williams about that chapter of his life imply he does harbor some shame about it after all.Replies: @The Man From K Street
As Scott Adams has repeatedly said, DJT is a troll master.Replies: @40 Acres and A Kardashian, @Lot, @Barnard, @anonymous
This stuff is so tawdry.
I know Trump has his way of doing things, and in some respects I can’t blame him. But this isn’t about a casino development or a new condominium. Even he should understand this isn’t appropriate behaviour at this stage of a campaign for President of the United States.
It’s a sad spectacle to witness. The process has devolved into garish, televised joke.
He’ll probably have a special ‘Celebrity Apprentice’ to select his cabinet.
Yeah, that is a very odd trajectory. I wonder what was going on there?
(maybe she felt overprivileged at McGill?)
I do know McGill is demanding and doesn't hand out good grades easily. It's a tougher school than Dartmouth or Brown these days, as I am given to understand.Replies: @dr kill
Back when sex was sinful and obscene, the movies, musicians, writers, and comedians needed to be a lot more subtle and clever. Euphemisms like dimming the lights in a movie or using a parable was enough to make the point. Now, due to 24/7 internet and television sex we are inured to the point where we don’t even notice what would have been considered hardcore images.
Comedy went in other direction. Rather than hint or elude anything that would be perceived sexist or racist by today’s standards, they have gone into utter denial. There is nothing risque about it. Rather than flirt with the politically incorrect, they are more orthodox fighting the new sins of a new religion.
So, this is apparently some of the College Humor Skit Group. I guess this is their carefully crafted, and I mean carefully, political humor for their constituency.
I think these kids are terrified. Comedy isn’t supposed to be written by the terrified.
Terrified writers aren’t funny:
She’s not Jewish and has a distinctly British phenotype, not uncommon among Canadians.
Also note how SNL has rarely made a joke about BHO, even though there is a ton of material - corpse-man, 57 states. speaking Austrian. But Dubya was a dumb ass.Replies: @J1234, @dr kill, @James Kabala
And whatever happened to his voodoo worshiping mother-in-law? She’s Billy Carter by a factor of five. But hardly a peep about her, except in only the most positive terms (and even then, not much.)
https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/style/the-elusive-mrs-r-marian-robinson-the-white-houses-not-so-typical-live-in-grandma/2014/03/31/72f7547a-b6c1-11e3-a7c6-70cf2db17781_story.html
I’d LOVE to see Zombie Vince Foster plopped right behind him!
I have no idea. I’m pretty sure it’s not Simpsons money because she sued Fox and lost. A few successful tv shows, at least one hit pop song, and movie and theater roles did it, I guess.
Tell that to Hulk Hogan.
You can’t say, “Well, that’s just trash media.” Because if NBC isn’t trash, what is it?
I liked the half-brother who lived in a tent in Kenya, or wherever. They could have a sketch where he lives in a tent on the White House lawn. The kids have to avoid him on the easter egg hunt. Come on, it writes itself.
Or what about the fact that he was raised by a white grandma? The First Black President is from a white family. Or what a nerd he is, deep down, despite the paper-thin, fake coolness? Have you seen that picture of him on the bike? President Urkel.
And I know all politicians do it, but how about the way he puts on the blackety-blackness when he talks to black people? Or you could go the other way, how white people eat up his Good Black persona.
Or his wife, with the Aunt Esther arms. Need I say more?
Comedians haven’t been trying.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TA1Ce9et1JcReplies: @Harry Baldwin
Chris Rock’s delivery is angry but he actually had thought-out bits. Or at least he used to, I can’t speak for now.
David Cross is a good example. He's a good comedic actor ( with limited range) but his standup is for shit.
A lot of imaginary conversations with 2-dimensional composite retarded rednecks. The good thing about imaginary verbal battles is you always win.
Bee and that sort are really flattering their audience, in the same way (as Steve has noted) the Times flatters their readers.
Also, no matter how sophisticated they are, Canadians know they're essentially midwesterners when they get to NY, so they often try extra hard in their virtue signaling.
Anyway, It's a living. There are some good young comics doing more interesting stuff, but everyone sees who is getting their own shows and why.Replies: @guest
Agree about Cross. I was a huge Mr. Show fan, but turned off a stand-up special of his I happened to be watching after a few minutes. It was pointless. Except when he does a character as part of the routine, like his James Lipton impression, which is killer.
Of course. That goes without saying.
Yeah but that was back in the day. No way she’s worth that much now. Maybe 50, but certainly not 100.
The National Review back page which tried to be lightly comedic for a long time was Florence King or Derb, both paleocons. Hard to see Ponnuru or K-Lo doing the same.Replies: @Desiderius, @guest
You can both be funny and have authority. This notion that comedy must be subversive is nonsense. It tends to be useful for subversion, but that is by no means its only use. I’ve known more than one funny bully. My friend in high school, who was the leader of our clique, was one of the funniest people I’ve ever known, and he was an imperious asshole.
The problem with leftists is that they pretend as if they’re not in power when they obviously are. That’s part of the Permanent Revolution mindset in which they’ve trapped themselves Which makes them liars and dissemblers, which makes them awkward and unnatural, which makes it hard for them to play the Speak Truth to Power card. You can have humor in the Orwellian State. I believe in 1984 party members are allowed to make fun of things. But it’s gotta be hard. You need the wit of a courtesan.
Now, the jester, he’s a different fellow. He gets to make fun of the king, but he doesn’t sew insurrection. He “punches down” all he wants, too. The jester is there to bolster the king, not subvert him. Leftist comedians, since their side’s more in power than not, oughtta be like court jesters.
He does engage the culture war on a few issues, partly by implication, and they are the most triggersome issues for libs. One is Law and Order. Which admittedly is one of primary responsibilities of government, but it’s full of dark associations. Then there are the cultural implications of immigration.
Maybe she bet on gold before ’08.
Maybe she has a secret contract to perform character sketches for a private audience with the Queen.
The list of richest British actors was kind of random. Angela Lansbury was on the top 10. Did Murder, She Wrote really pay that well? Or did she just invest it well?
It's pretty common for celebrities to do well in real estate.
A lot of thinking has gone into not letting stars get too much money.Replies: @Sam Haysom, @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
Sounds like she was on the Brian Williams trajectory. He transferred a bunch of times… Managed to get fewer than 20 credits total and dropped out as soon as a promising opportunity came along.
No shame necessary in not having a degree, but the degree of obfuscation & embellishment by Mr. Williams about that chapter of his life imply he does harbor some shame about it after all.
Singing cowboy Gene Autry made a huge amount of money in real estate in Orange County.
It’s pretty common for celebrities to do well in real estate.
(maybe she felt overprivileged at McGill?)Replies: @PiltdownMan
I have no idea what the reasons were but every parent with a well centered college age kid knows of at least one case like that, and fears it. It does have to be drugs, depression or anything specific. Good kids can hit that downward spiral in those critical years. It just happens.
I do know McGill is demanding and doesn’t hand out good grades easily. It’s a tougher school than Dartmouth or Brown these days, as I am given to understand.
…does not..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TuyqHl89WjA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ri0qiAita4s
It's also evident that these "comedians" aren't able to make fun of themselves in any insightful way if at all. Their worldview is so fragile that the comedy maintains it - to joke about it is to pull the string that unravels the whole garment.
It should also not go without notice that three of the five late night hosts mentioned in Douthat's piece are foreigners - Bee is Canadian, Oliver a Brit and Noah a South African. Not only are we treated to sneers by self-regarded cultural elites, we're treated to sneers by foreign self-regarded cultural elites.Replies: @Sam Haysom, @Zach, @al gore rhythms, @dr kill
That guy who isn’t Don Rickles is going full junkie. If you have never seen the classical junkie itch and scratch, here’s your chance. I suppose it could be part of his shtick, but it’s distracting to me.
Anyone who doesn’t like the Three Stooges was born wrong. I feel so sorry for you, pal.
The high point for actors’ compensation was the 1990s. For example, Jack Nicholson made $50 million off playing the Joker in the 1989 “Batman.” But I don’t think any movie actor got back to that single film level until Robert Downey Jr. in the 2012 “Avengers.”
A lot of thinking has gone into not letting stars get too much money.
At least they got a good performance out of Jack, they paid Arnold Schwarzenegger 25 million for thirteen minutes as mr freeze and he got top billing over George Cooney who was batman.
Supposedly, due to his percentage of the gross, Arnold made close to 60-80 million for Terminator 2 in '91, aside from getting his then usual 20 million salary. In '03 for Terminator 3 (the last film he made before going off to run for CA governor) he received a fee of nearly 30 million and he received his usual percentage of the gross. Arnold in particular appears to be the one Alister who can receive his price, mainly due to the fact that he has a large global following in Europe and in China.
Also note how SNL has rarely made a joke about BHO, even though there is a ton of material - corpse-man, 57 states. speaking Austrian. But Dubya was a dumb ass.Replies: @J1234, @dr kill, @James Kabala
The most defining aspect of PC/SJW/Proggie people is exactly that they find nothing funny. They treat the most ridiculous and outlandish remarks and events with the same insane seriousness. In fact, they are proud to not find humor in anything. I would say that their real goal is to prevent me from having fun at all, or finding joy anywhere. They are the The Western version of the Saudi Morality cops, they operate on the idea that somewhere, someplace someone must be having fun, and they must be crushed. Fun is not an appropriate goal of the State.
This is how people on the edge of senility argue.
I think these kids are terrified. Comedy isn't supposed to be written by the terrified.
Terrified writers aren't funny:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8flfOeWMPQReplies: @dr kill
I find this very well done. And true.
I do know McGill is demanding and doesn't hand out good grades easily. It's a tougher school than Dartmouth or Brown these days, as I am given to understand.Replies: @dr kill
I remember discovering that I was not as smart as I thought during my first term at University. People either dig in, or change majors, or drop out. I imagine the self-discovery these days is even tougher on the special snowflake/we all get a trophy generation.
I readily accept your diagnosis. But it doesn’t mean I’m wrong.
A lot of thinking has gone into not letting stars get too much money.Replies: @Sam Haysom, @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
Not that much thinking they just stopped giving actors a percentage of the gross. I guess you could say a lot of accounting has gone into avoiding paying actors that much again.
At least they got a good performance out of Jack, they paid Arnold Schwarzenegger 25 million for thirteen minutes as mr freeze and he got top billing over George Cooney who was batman.
From the “Amber Richardson” Onion article:
I take it to be a mocking portrait of a wiggerette ‘coal burner.’ It’s a sarcastic skewering of a cultural and racial miscegenation that does not ‘uplift’ anyone involved. Definitely un-PC if read as the inevitable result of desegregation on the low end of the economic scale. Fishtown meets Browntown. (I do agree that they also made her white for plausible deniability.)
For me, the final nail in the Onion’s coffin was the mea culpa following the Q. Wallis tweet.
Hulk Hogan and Peter Thiel say “Si se puede!”
Tons of money (and a good case) changes everything. Go to Gawker’s (for now) archived site—all the years of comments have vanished.
Headline"Swedish Men Coerce Their Wives Into Prostitution as a Supplement to "Family Budget""full story here
Read more: https://sputniknews.com/europe/20160907/1045046239/sweden-prostitution-human-trafficking.htmlLead para"Sweden's Migration Board has been sounding the alarm over a marked increase in cases involving human trafficking, with a number of cases making headlines. However, police point out that prostitution no longer involves clear associations with foreign organized crime and is more closely linked with spousal abuse."
several paragraphs later
"Another marked difference from the previously known criminal routine is that women who are being sold for sexual purposes have had a longer presence in Sweden. Many of them even grew up in the country."Not born there I note, "Swedish men" indeedReplies: @Bill Jones, @ganderson
Were they named Sven? Ole? Torvald?
Hopefully Wilmore will be able to land a show on BET or OWN.Replies: @Joe Schmoe
Off Topic
I see the sort of almost German style sentence construction and find it curious. For example, you could write:
I can say that I wasn’t sad to see cancelled that show on Comedy Central with Larry Wilmore fronting as a newscaster.
I know people do this rather unaware, but I seem to notice it more and more. Instead of rearranging the sentence to keep the verb phrase together, the writer allows it to get separated by various phrases. I am not saying it is wrong per se, just curious.
What does Dennis Miller do these days besides playing O'Reilly's stooge?Replies: @Anon, @James Kabala, @Brutusale
Fair enough, but there are still some people who keep their political views relatively quiet. Bee et al. are definitely in the vanguard of true believers.
Also note how SNL has rarely made a joke about BHO, even though there is a ton of material - corpse-man, 57 states. speaking Austrian. But Dubya was a dumb ass.Replies: @J1234, @dr kill, @James Kabala
I tried to watch it once and found it pretty lousy, but isn’t that what Portlandia is supposed to be?
It took them a year and a half to get rid of Blackity Black Everything's Black Larry Whilmore's show, even after it was a disaster from the start.Replies: @The Alarmist
Worse than that, he is an alien who is denying a home-grown affirmative action case a good job.
No shame necessary in not having a degree, but the degree of obfuscation & embellishment by Mr. Williams about that chapter of his life imply he does harbor some shame about it after all.Replies: @The Man From K Street
Happens more often than you think among teleprompter readers, especially Canadians. The late Peter Jennings didn’t even finish *high school*, let alone get some undergrad credits.
A lot of thinking has gone into not letting stars get too much money.Replies: @Sam Haysom, @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
Wait, when did they ever stop giving actors a percentage of the gross? They still get a percentage. Especially if they have a co-producer credit. I just took for granted that the top elite Alist actors have continued to get that much at the very least. Perhaps that’s one reason James Cameron’s Avatar didn’t include a major Alister in the cast. If Arnold had been in a starring role in Avatar, he’d certainly have demanded nearly 100 million and his usual percentage (which could easily have exceeded 150 million overall). This could be one reason that these superhero mega blockbusters continue to cast few major stars and make them an ensemble cast, where no one star outshines the others. So only the director and producer(s) make out like bandits at the box office.
Supposedly, due to his percentage of the gross, Arnold made close to 60-80 million for Terminator 2 in ’91, aside from getting his then usual 20 million salary. In ’03 for Terminator 3 (the last film he made before going off to run for CA governor) he received a fee of nearly 30 million and he received his usual percentage of the gross. Arnold in particular appears to be the one Alister who can receive his price, mainly due to the fact that he has a large global following in Europe and in China.
My conservative boss lives in Portland and he says that Portlandia is a documentary.
These are the same morons who have voted -four- times not to add fluoride to their drinking water, and are proud of it. http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/05/22/portland-fluoride-water/2350329/
I wonder if part of Trevor Noah's problem has been that he's too young and fresh faced to emulate Stewart's archiness and contempt laden mugging. You can't just make fun of the right you need to make it clear that you are condescending towards them too.Replies: @slumber_j, @Jack Hanson, @Desiderius, @whorefinder, @Wade
My favorite Daily Show correspondent was always Beth Littleford (http://bethlittleford.com/) back in the Craig Kilborn era.
He’s a word famous intellectual. I don’t think he’s on drugs it looks more like he has Tourettes which to me isn’t surprising for someone with his personality.
That resemblance is deeper than mere arms.
Making fun of people is racist or “punching down”. If you read press accounts from the 19th century, even in mainstream papers like the NY Times, whenever they would visit some ethnic or colored community they would write a very tongue in cheek article puncturing their pretensions. If something like Kwanzaa existed in the 19th century, they would have had a field day pointing out how ridiculous it was on its face, how it was a semi-literate pastiche of other people’s customs, etc. But now we are required to take stuff like this with a straight face and “respect” everyone else’s customs no matter how much they differ from Western norms. In fact the MORE they differ from Western norms the better. The only legitimate targets are Western norms themselves.
For those who could use it, there is no self to discover.
Being a reporter in general was not considered in the past to be something requiring a college degree, especially not in “journalism”. We are overly obsessed with everyone in sight having a college degree when many occupations don’t really require it. Certainly reading the news from a script doesn’t – it’s really more a species of acting (another occupation that didn’t used to require a degree) than of reporting to begin with. But since news anchors are sometimes dragged out to interview eminent people (in fact by reading questions written by others from a script, but never mind) we are supposed to think that they are the intellectual equals of the people that they interview instead of handsome well spoken guys who may be dumb as box of rocks.
You’re right. I just watched one of her ads on Youtube. She looks like a dried up 42 going on 35. Not hot at all. And the “sausage party” jokes are probably real funny if you are 14 years old.
As Gertrude Stein wrote about her hometown of Oakland, CA, when you get there, there is no there there.
Remember when anti-flouridation was a right-wing John Bircher cause? Times have changed.
That whole “punch up”/”punch down” thing is ad hoc rationalization. I don’t enjoy being a reductionist, but our deeply dishonest culture demands it of me. It’s just another example of who/whom. You’re “punching up” when you make fun of something they want made fun of, and “punching down” when you’re making fun of something they want protected. Simple as that.
Leftists make fun of the weak and defenseless all the time. Screw them.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TA1Ce9et1JcReplies: @Harry Baldwin
So disgusting to see on Drudge today a photo of George W Bush in the arms of Michelle Obama, looking very much the pathetic cuck he is. I find W much more repellent than Obama.
Nice try, goofball. It isn’t even taboo in the People’s Commonwealth of Massachusetts.
What does Dennis Miller do these days besides playing O'Reilly's stooge?Replies: @Anon, @James Kabala, @Brutusale
Conservative estimate of Miller’s net worth is $20 million, so he’s eating pretty well.
Ullman and her husband have a net worth of about $115 million. HBO was paying her about $6 million a year for 14 years for various projects.
I know Trump has his way of doing things, and in some respects I can't blame him. But this isn't about a casino development or a new condominium. Even he should understand this isn't appropriate behaviour at this stage of a campaign for President of the United States.
It's a sad spectacle to witness. The process has devolved into garish, televised joke.
He'll probably have a special 'Celebrity Apprentice' to select his cabinet.Replies: @Brutusale
I’ll go with Buckley’s methods and say that the first 50 names in the Boston phone book would be as able as the party hacks and tokens in the current administration’s cabinet.
I noticed it kick into gear in 2012. The MSM directed vitriol against Michelle Bachmann during the 2012 Republican primaries was when being forthrightly against illegal immigration became the 11th sin. She took the hardest position against illegal immigration among all candidates and was leading in the polls prior her media take down.
During the 2006-2007 era of melting down the congressional switchboards over proposed amnesty legislation, it was merely an out-of-step position, not an evil one.
Appreciated.
We’re in the thick of fall landwork so I’m missing a lot online.
Two words:
Population genetics.
A famous Bee.