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Twenty years ago, two gay Muslim blacks went on a shooting spree that killed 17 people and wounded 10 more in the Washington D.C. area.
The Washington Post runs a long retrospective article about the shooters, but leaves out the part most relevant to today when the prestige press is obsessed with the white supremacist terrorism menace, just like it was back then only more so: Law enforcement racially profiled the suspect as a white man or white men with military background and went on a wild goose chase for a white man in a white van, long ignoring the mounting evidence of black men in a blue sedan.
In contrast to the Washington Post’s article, from the Australian Broadcasting Corporation:
Authorities had started to form a profile of the serial killer they believed they were chasing: A white man in his 20s or 30s with a military background who worked either alone or with an accomplice.
A confused witness at a shooting told police he’d spotted a suspicious white van, leading detectives to ignore the growing chorus of concern about a strange blue sedan so frequently seen lurking at the murder scenes.
Eventually, authorities realised their error.
“We were looking for a white van with white people, and we ended up with a blue car with black people,” Police chief Moose would later admit.
In defense of the lawmen who botched up this case, it did violate Sailer’s Law of Mass Shootings (although, technically more of a slow rampage shooting or fast serial killing) with 17 dead and 10 wounded.
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With the technology we have today the shooters would never be able to get away away with more than two or three snipings.
Has it ever been confirmed that the shooters were gay?
In fairness too, the setup they had with the gunner laying down inside the sedan was also not intuitive relative to them being in a van.
To me the hero of the DC Sniper story was Brian Levin, a criminologist and director of the Center for Hate and Extremism at CSU San Bernardino, who went on every television channel at the time and happily informed the audience that the shooter would be “a kind of wallpaper white male, a disenfranchised, disrespected man who’s getting back at society.” Levin is still frequently seen and heard giving his opinion on such matters with frequently the same content.
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What if there were two evil gay lovers on a nuclear submarine? Could they coordinate and launch a nuclear missile?
Mick Jagger Slept With Two Other Rolling Stones, New Book Claims
In more stomachable music news:
‘Love Me Do’: W&M professor, students analyze Beatles’ enduring music
Off Topic: One of Elon Musk’s kids has gone Trans and decided that he/she hates his/her dad. But Musk has a diversified portfolio of nine kids so his response is “you can’t win them all.”
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11293657/Elon-Musk-blames-woke-colleges-turning-transgender-daughter-Vivian-18-against-him.html
Before we laugh at his tranny son/daughter, remember he named his kid with Grimes "X Æ A-12." This is not the behavior of a good father, to put it mildly. No amount of money can make up for that.Replies: @R.G. Camara, @Anonymous, @Hi There, @Hypnotoad666, @Kim, @Dvnjbbgc
Here is the younger Vivian strutting his stuff:
https://youtu.be/qKXsrWrmbAg&t=1m05sReplies: @Ganderson
Police didn’t have the abundant CCTV they do today though they did get extortion demands in a ”plastic bag” found taped to a tree at a Ponderosa Steak house off I-95 where one of the last shooting victims was hit and who survived. A sharper chief investigator than Moose or the FBI agents working the case might have assembled everyone who was working or dining there that evening to rule in or out the ”white van” but as it happened Muhammed and Malvo were stopped and questioned that night at a police roadblock and allowed to pass as they headed back to DC. Moose was determined to find his great white defendant!
Top kek.
Before we laugh at his tranny son/daughter, remember he named his kid with Grimes “X Æ A-12.” This is not the behavior of a good father, to put it mildly. No amount of money can make up for that.
Elon himself is estranged from his father Errol and calls him a "'terrible' father who has committed 'every crime you can possibly think of'". Also Errol Musk has fathered 2 kids in his 70s with stepdaughter who is 40 years his junior.
https://www.marca.com/en/lifestyle/celebrities/2022/07/16/62d247a522601d49028b45a8.htmlReplies: @Hypnotoad666
and who cares if he gave his kid a weird name?Replies: @kaganovitch
It is just setting them up for failure.Replies: @James Speaks, @AndrewR
As usual, its homosexual blacks can pull above their weight in terms of intelligence and planning.
I’ve had quite a few “man, there’s an intelligent and conscience black guy, finally we got one” instances in my life where the dude turns out to be as queer as a 3-dollar bill.
I guess “profiling” is better than nothing. But how useful is it when it just consists of guessing that the person who committed crime X may be like the average person who commits that type of crime?
“It could have been an average white guy who did it,” isn’t going to help your investigation of a sniper very much. It’s like “profiling” a drive-by gang shooter as “likely to be a black male.” No sh*t, Sherlock.
PROFILER: “The killer lives in a detached home, owns a large dog and drives a classic muscle car.”
When caught, the killer lives in an apartment, owns a cat, and drives a 1968 Camaro.
EVERYONE: “Nailed the muscle car! Amazing!”Replies: @Buzz Mohawk, @Alden, @Inquiring Mind, @Rob
DNA testing finding these old killers disproving the trope of "they only escalate and keep killing more! and they want to get caught!" has been funny.Replies: @Feryl
OT: Speaking of profiling, must have been a German Shepherd:
Pit bull kills two little kids as Mom tries to defend them:
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/family-dogs-kill-2-tennessee-children-injure-mom-who-tried-to-stop-mauling-family-says/ar-AA12K1Gg?OCID=ansmsnnews11
The most dangerous animal I ever came in contact with was a large pit bull. I was at the home of a martial arts expert who lived in the country. His pit bull was named Fang. Fang stood by the table all night, waiting to kill someone if told to. He had dead eyes. With permission, I petted Fang. He did not respond to petting.Replies: @Twinkie, @BosTex, @Anon
Very stupid parents.
Lifelong guilt for the parents, and, no doubt, a bitter and quick divorce.
Whatever happened to common sense
Pit Bulls aren't sweet, affectionate doggies. They are vicious dogs bred to be killers.Replies: @Alden
WTF? I don't care if they were pit bulls, we're at a several sigma event or there are key facts missing. Having a dog for 8 years entails many things; at a minimum, the dog is at least 8 years old. That's enough time for a reasonable history of behavior and to lose the youthful aggressiveness.
What happened was a tragedy. I wish the family more sympathy and less snark.
(no, I don't own any pit bulls)Replies: @Buzz Mohawk, @BB753, @Dave from Oz
I didn’t hear about the gay part, but I lost interest after they were caught. It was presented as extreme mentoring, not pederasty.
“Criminal Minds” used the shooting-from-the-trunk bit a few years later. While it was heavily sanitized and whitened, there were enough sexually deviant killers on that show that it probably couldn’t be made today.
FBI "profiler" Robert K. Ressler popularized the myth, whereby serial killers were almost all White men. Ressler was a publicity whore, and knew what the msm wanted, so he would perjure himself as an "expert witness," testifying at trials, and the msm would give him royal treatment.
"The Beltway Sniper Killings Equal Zebra Killings II?"
https://thezebraproject.blogspot.com/2013/02/the-beltway-sniper-killings-equal-zebra.html
https://www.vizaca.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/10/Colby-Bennard-Survived-From-Tennessee-Dog-Attack.jpg
For you pit bull lovers, your favorite breed killed those two kids and mauled their mom. The beloved pit bull was part of the family.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/family-dogs-kill-2-tennessee-children-injure-mom-who-tried-to-stop-mauling-family-says/ar-AA12K1Gg?OCID=ansmsnnews11Replies: @Buzz Mohawk, @rebel yell, @Verymuchalive, @Alden, @Mr. Anon, @ic1000, @JosephD
Pit bulls, plural.
Malvo, the younger sniper, went straight & IR.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8109277/D-C-sniper-took-2002-crime-spree-marries-wealthy-activist-jailhouse-wedding.html
REVEALED: The woman Washington D.C. sniper Lee Boyd married in jail is a wealthy ‘trust fund baby’ and activist who donated THOUSANDS of dollars to Bernie Sanders
You sure he went straight, Chief?
A certain percentage of females find that attractiveReplies: @Rob McX
Steve, please remove prosa’s auto-approval! Constant low value comments.
Maybe you can combine ostracism with fund raising?Replies: @Bill Jones
“Chief Moose” how well named. Nomen est Omen. What a big dumb moose he was.
Terrible story about the pit bull mauling. Why not get a sweet gold retriever or a little Yorkie with two little kids around?
People have lost their common sense. I guess you have to feel bad for the couple involved, but makes no sense to have two pit bulls with little children around.
If you read down, it’s a son named Xavier who insists on calling himself ‘Vivian’. There is a picture that’s supposedly him. I’d wager the picture is a different one of Justine Wilson’s children.
In a story about the younger murderer trying for parole, it was claimed he was molested by his older partner in crime.
Before we laugh at his tranny son/daughter, remember he named his kid with Grimes "X Æ A-12." This is not the behavior of a good father, to put it mildly. No amount of money can make up for that.Replies: @R.G. Camara, @Anonymous, @Hi There, @Hypnotoad666, @Kim, @Dvnjbbgc
A good thing you can say about it is that Elon convinced a lot of career-girls that breeding with him was in their best interests rather than killing his kid in the womb. Elon’s father had this philosophy as well—the two are very much into breeding as much as possible.
Think about it: once Grimes turns 40 and her energy flags and whatever nothing actress he was banging realizes she’s not going to be a star, they will turn around and at least not be able to regret not having a family.
But yeah, his sleeping around with actresses and musician girls and giving his kids weird names and being an absentee/distant/career-focused dad is causing this.
With actresses and musicians?
Giving children weird names?
Absentee dad?
Mr. Musk is an African American who came upon a lot of personal wealth.Replies: @Mike Tre
Are you seriously posting porn here, fed?
The FBI also botched the “geographical profiling” angle. The first few shootings were in the Maryland suburbs. According to their theory, this was the shooters’ comfort zone. So they flooded my neighborhood with cops, while the shooters were in Virginia.
https://orion.soarr.com/photos/16076862/800x/2020-isuzu-npr+hd.1.jpgReplies: @Paul Mendez
And his lover, Shlomo McCarthy.
"It could have been an average white guy who did it," isn't going to help your investigation of a sniper very much. It's like "profiling" a drive-by gang shooter as "likely to be a black male." No sh*t, Sherlock.Replies: @Paul Mendez, @J.Ross, @Whereismyhandle
“Profiling” is a lot like tarot card reading. Throw a lot of stuff out there and see what sticks. Human nature is to remember the hits and forget the misses.
PROFILER: “The killer lives in a detached home, owns a large dog and drives a classic muscle car.”
When caught, the killer lives in an apartment, owns a cat, and drives a 1968 Camaro.
EVERYONE: “Nailed the muscle car! Amazing!”
Most Whites don’t realize how much we are hated by academics such as Levin, black government workers like Sheriff Moose to the media and our employers. Hire anything but a European White.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oseqh7SMIvo
Profiling might be useful(ish) if you are looking for a white guy for a spree crime today. The profiler could always be, “remember John Allen Mohamed and Lee Malvo? They were black,” and earn his salary.
Probably (maybe) profilers do provide some value-add by telling cops that there are non-white serial killers. But maybe cops already know that?
A Vivian Stanshall once changed his name to Victor, and gave that name to his son as well. To get back at Dad for something (general purposes, it appears), Victor, Jr changed his own name to Vivian.
Here is the younger Vivian strutting his stuff:
Charles A. Moose, the Montgomery County police chief who led a three-week manhunt for snipers who killed 10 people in the Washington metropolitan area in October 2002 and later resigned amid controversy over payments he received for a book he wrote about the investigation, died Nov. 25 [2021] at age 68.
“We’re looking for a white guy in a white van”
Before we laugh at his tranny son/daughter, remember he named his kid with Grimes "X Æ A-12." This is not the behavior of a good father, to put it mildly. No amount of money can make up for that.Replies: @R.G. Camara, @Anonymous, @Hi There, @Hypnotoad666, @Kim, @Dvnjbbgc
This sort of family weirdness and estrangement seems to run in the Musk family.
Elon himself is estranged from his father Errol and calls him a “‘terrible’ father who has committed ‘every crime you can possibly think of’”. Also Errol Musk has fathered 2 kids in his 70s with stepdaughter who is 40 years his junior.
https://www.marca.com/en/lifestyle/celebrities/2022/07/16/62d247a522601d49028b45a8.html
This is a really great site. Please no links to porno or garbage like that.
Before we laugh at his tranny son/daughter, remember he named his kid with Grimes "X Æ A-12." This is not the behavior of a good father, to put it mildly. No amount of money can make up for that.Replies: @R.G. Camara, @Anonymous, @Hi There, @Hypnotoad666, @Kim, @Dvnjbbgc
Elon Musk isn’t the perfect dad, but if I were a kid, I’d rather have him as a dad than 90% of the other men in the USA.
and who cares if he gave his kid a weird name?
His kid, for one.
YES.
Before we laugh at his tranny son/daughter, remember he named his kid with Grimes "X Æ A-12." This is not the behavior of a good father, to put it mildly. No amount of money can make up for that.Replies: @R.G. Camara, @Anonymous, @Hi There, @Hypnotoad666, @Kim, @Dvnjbbgc
That’s a kid who is in desperate need of a nickname. Just going by “X” could be kind of cool.
I remember that. My family was living in Maryland at the time in one of the towns where a shooting took place, and my wife and I were visiting. Wild! People were afraid to just stop by the market. Of course the odds of getting shot by the sniper were probably less than the odds of dying in a car accident on the way to the market, or the odds of some schizo black guy killing you with a punch in the head in the parking lot, but still there was a special frisson of unease when you stepped out.
It was that idiot black (I repeat myself) police chief Moose who came up with the white van theory on the basis of zero evidence. Look around sometime and you will see that white is the default van color.
It was not the cops who got them. It was some trucker at a rest stop on I-70 who blocked them in and called the (useless) cops.Replies: @anonymouseperson
PROFILER: “The killer lives in a detached home, owns a large dog and drives a classic muscle car.”
When caught, the killer lives in an apartment, owns a cat, and drives a 1968 Camaro.
EVERYONE: “Nailed the muscle car! Amazing!”Replies: @Buzz Mohawk, @Alden, @Inquiring Mind, @Rob
Yes. It’s called the Barnum Effect, and it’s a feature of woo. Fortune telling, astrology, carnival whatevers, and yes, tarot. A related phenomenon might as well be called a kind of placebo effect. That is what happens, for example, with something like acupuncture, and with some drugs that have only minor effects otherwise.
What’s remarkable is how many organizations use things like this, including profiling, Myers-Briggs personality tests, and handwriting analysis. Let’s also just state the truth and say that much of psychological counseling is the same kind of woo.
Chief Moose was not the chief investigator as much as the chief spokesperson.
I worked in the Nothern Vigrinia area at the time. The reports of a white van were really a mess because every day laborer beaner had a white utility van at the time. There were thousands of them…
An interesting feature of this episode was that the teenager was an illegal alien from Jamaica who got lost in the immigration system like usual. He met was his name John Mohamed in Seattle where he was an illegal immigrant with his mother.
These guys TERRIFIED the soccer Moms of the DC metro area who are as about as useful a liberal idiot as you can find. Lots and lots of Hate Has No Home here signs in the suburbs of DC where federal government money flows like water.
Mohamed was put to death faster than a NY minute. He didn’t fight it, but even still, there were no liberal crocodile tears for him… No crap about him being a victim of systematic white racism etc… No candle light vigils or appeals to the governor to save him.
It was adios Motherfucker from the libs of Nova…
One the first day, one of the shootings was in the District of Columbia. That was the shooting that produced the most accurate early description of the vehicle used. I remember noting how common white panel trucks were after that description was released.
Since I lived in what was supposed to be Home Base of the snipers, and $1 million reward was pretty sweet, my head was on a swivel for white box trucks. Very quickly, my head fell off its swivel!
This was the height of the DC Area’s pre-recession building boom/illegal alien construction employment boom. Every other vehicle was a white pickup/van/truck packed with Central Americans.
Coming in the heels of 9/11 and the anthrax stuff I have to admit I was concerned. The shootings were all in the suburbs and I lived in the city but I stopped running on the Mall at night for awhile.
I remember this.
At the time, I was regularly watching Phil Donahue’s evening show on MSNBC. He extensively covered the sniping around Washington DC. I remember that the show’s DC-based show correspondent asked a random Black female civilian about her opinion on the sniper. She confidently responded that the sniper must be a White male. I think Donahue repeated her assertion.
At the time, the consensus was that the DC sniper was a White male, but some thought he could be an Islamic terrorist.
From what I read, Blacks were shocked when the snipers turned out to be from their population.
Is that JackD’s cousin? Or one the Kagan’s nephews?
Before we laugh at his tranny son/daughter, remember he named his kid with Grimes "X Æ A-12." This is not the behavior of a good father, to put it mildly. No amount of money can make up for that.Replies: @R.G. Camara, @Anonymous, @Hi There, @Hypnotoad666, @Kim, @Dvnjbbgc
That is like parents who name their children Jesus or Mohammed.
It is just setting them up for failure.
Yeah, criminal profiler Pat Brown was also confident the sniper was a white male.
Terrible story about the pit bull mauling. Why not get a sweet gold retriever or a little Yorkie with two little kids around?
People have lost their common sense. I guess you have to feel bad for the couple involved, but makes no sense to have two pit bulls with little children around.Replies: @David Jones
Back in the late 80s I had a friend with 4 and 5 year old daughters, also 2 pit bulls, an English bull terrier, a Doberman and a German Shepherd. Nobody would make a false move when at his house.
https://www.vizaca.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/10/Colby-Bennard-Survived-From-Tennessee-Dog-Attack.jpg
For you pit bull lovers, your favorite breed killed those two kids and mauled their mom. The beloved pit bull was part of the family.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/family-dogs-kill-2-tennessee-children-injure-mom-who-tried-to-stop-mauling-family-says/ar-AA12K1Gg?OCID=ansmsnnews11Replies: @Buzz Mohawk, @rebel yell, @Verymuchalive, @Alden, @Mr. Anon, @ic1000, @JosephD
When my son was that age my wife and I were very protective of him. I would never, never have let him come in contact with a pit bull. It doesn’t matter if many pit bulls have good temperaments. The point is that some pit bulls turn aggressive, all pit bulls have huge jaws and even a grown man can’t pry them off, and therefore no children should be exposed to them.
The most dangerous animal I ever came in contact with was a large pit bull. I was at the home of a martial arts expert who lived in the country. His pit bull was named Fang. Fang stood by the table all night, waiting to kill someone if told to. He had dead eyes. With permission, I petted Fang. He did not respond to petting.
1. You don't have to worry about dogs with good temperaments, whatever the breed they are. That said, all dogs are predator pack animals and can hurt humans, especially little ones.
2. Dogs don't "turn aggressive." They attack to hunt, to protect territory, to protect the pack (including, yes, their humans), to fight off rivals for access to females (in the case of males), or because they are hurt and/or are fearful. In almost all cases of fatal dog attacks on humans, the attacking dogs are males, especially intact ones, and have been bred/socialized poorly. Although the breeds responsible for such attacks have changed over the years (some decades ago German Shepherd Dogs were the most frequent, now "pit bull" type dogs are, although identification is generally quite inaccurate in press reports), the other characteristics of offending dogs haven't changed.
3. The "pit bull" type dogs are powerful breeds, but they do not have the most powerful jaws. The mastiff-type breeds (Kangals, Presa Canarios, Dogo Argentinos, English Mastiffs, etc. all have much more powerful bite forces than American Pit Bull Terriers do - pretty much double that of the latter). APBTs have comparable bite force of German Shepherd Dogs.
4. People - "grown men" or otherwise - should not be trying to "pry open" mouths of dogs. That's just stupid and is a recipe for getting bitten, especially if the dog in question is in the throes of aggression. That has nothing to do with a particular breed. The way to get a dog to open its mouth is 1) ideally, with a release or drop it command or 2) by picking up the dog's rear legs and continuing to turn.This is out of a cartoon.
You shouldn't associate with people who train dogs to "to kill someone" although that is not as easy as it sounds. Fatal dog attacks are almost exclusively incidents that involve untrained dogs. I've done lots of Schutzhund training over the years - if a dog is actually properly trained for protection, you don't have to worry about a thing unless you intend to attack the handler of the said dog.Replies: @Feryl, @Mike Tre, @Johann Ricke
Seems that every other dog is a pit bull of some type. I am always keeping the little one away.
At work: we recently provided a care and charitable event for the local animal shelter. Certainly a worthy event. I happen to love dogs and have had 6 dogs over the years, all
Rescues.
At the shelter: almost all pit bulls. No more just regular dogs to adopt.Replies: @Gabe Ruth
https://www.vizaca.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/10/Colby-Bennard-Survived-From-Tennessee-Dog-Attack.jpg
For you pit bull lovers, your favorite breed killed those two kids and mauled their mom. The beloved pit bull was part of the family.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/family-dogs-kill-2-tennessee-children-injure-mom-who-tried-to-stop-mauling-family-says/ar-AA12K1Gg?OCID=ansmsnnews11Replies: @Buzz Mohawk, @rebel yell, @Verymuchalive, @Alden, @Mr. Anon, @ic1000, @JosephD
Poor kids.
Very stupid parents.
Lifelong guilt for the parents, and, no doubt, a bitter and quick divorce.
Whatever happened to common sense
Elon himself is estranged from his father Errol and calls him a "'terrible' father who has committed 'every crime you can possibly think of'". Also Errol Musk has fathered 2 kids in his 70s with stepdaughter who is 40 years his junior.
https://www.marca.com/en/lifestyle/celebrities/2022/07/16/62d247a522601d49028b45a8.htmlReplies: @Hypnotoad666
From a moral point of view, I find this conduct reprehensible. From a eugenics point of view, I strongly approve. The more Musks the better.
You can't build a civilization on imagination.
https://orion.soarr.com/photos/16076862/800x/2020-isuzu-npr+hd.1.jpgReplies: @Paul Mendez
Me, too!
Since I lived in what was supposed to be Home Base of the snipers, and $1 million reward was pretty sweet, my head was on a swivel for white box trucks. Very quickly, my head fell off its swivel!
This was the height of the DC Area’s pre-recession building boom/illegal alien construction employment boom. Every other vehicle was a white pickup/van/truck packed with Central Americans.
I remember the case very clearly. Again, and again the media kept saying the shooter was or had to be white. All these supposed profilers on TV saying it was some “angry white man, possibly with military experience”. It was repeated endlessly ad nauseum.
And it was all a lie. As soon as the killers were shown to be black and Muslim all talk of race vanished, like it had never happened.
Levin. Jewish?
The Strauss & Howe books Generations and The Fourth Turning are mostly of this sort too, as much as they are interesting and entertaining.
Lest anyone think this is all anti-Boomer, I did say that their negative traits also exist in subsequent generations. And as per Ed Dutton, a lot of these character defects seem to be the result of dysgenics, there seem to be far more idiots and insane mental cases these days . That being said, since the culture of the 60's and 70's promoted so much youthful narcissism (promoting discussion of the "Me generation") a lot of Boomers take an undue amount of pride in what their generation accomplished (though I would say that the Silent Generation actually led or at least co-signed on every trend of the 60's and 70's).Replies: @Jim Don Bob
An interesting feature of this episode was that the teenager was an illegal alien from Jamaica who got lost in the immigration system like usual. He met was his name John Mohamed in Seattle where he was an illegal immigrant with his mother.
These guys TERRIFIED the soccer Moms of the DC metro area who are as about as useful a liberal idiot as you can find. Lots and lots of Hate Has No Home here signs in the suburbs of DC where federal government money flows like water.
Mohamed was put to death faster than a NY minute. He didn't fight it, but even still, there were no liberal crocodile tears for him... No crap about him being a victim of systematic white racism etc... No candle light vigils or appeals to the governor to save him.
It was adios Motherfucker from the libs of Nova...Replies: @anonymouseperson
If I am right wasn’t this illegal alien kid from Jamaica somehow enrolled in a school here in America too. WTF?
Since the 1982 Plyler v. Doe when Lewis Powell, in 1971 another bad Nixon choice did his usual swing vote to the hard Left. He was replaced by Kennedy, and this is part of why the Left in the US can't accept the current Supreme Court.
I need to look some more to be certain, but Powell wasn't all bad in that I'm pretty sure before then there was a Leftist majority, probably going back all the way to the 1937 switch in time that saved nine.
Even then, don't forget Brett Kavanaugh was Kennedy's clerk and hand picked successor, Gorsuch is fully on board with World War T, we certainly don't have a Right majority today between them and Roberts joining as the see fit with the three hard Lefties to further dissolve our society and nation. And with the Deep State at minimum claiming they assassinated Scalia and the studied indifference towards protecting the current right of Mao justices or fingering the leaker of Dobbs....
God Damn it, Schoolmarm-what’s the deal? Most of my posts aren’t even in 2-3 day limbo anymore. They get deleted faster than a fat boy can fart. And for what?
I hope that you save some of the good stuff from my posts you delete. You can use them later.
In any event, might I humbly submit the following excerpt regarding the negro gentleman who was the DC Sniper. I hope that you find it to your liking and that nothing is untoward. I’d hate to offend the delicate sensibilities of you or your readers. Thanks ever so much.
From the UPI. Oct, 2002:
This right here. Our cucked post-Vietnam military. If they had done their jobs, Muhammad would have been in Leavenworth in 2002. He stole a rifle and threw an incendiary grenade into a tent full of soldiers.
This jagoff officer called him a “screwball”. No, a screwball soldier is Beetle Bailey or Gomer Pyle. It’s not a very accurate description of Muhammad’s serious criminal offenses. Yet he was allowed to go fro a Reservist status to Regular active duty Army, and given an honorable discharge–and evidently no jail time when he should have been given at least 20 years.
Prior to murdering 12 at the Washington Navy Yard in 2013, a record unmatched by dylann roof, alexis had two incidents of firing a gun at or near innocent victims before his “honorable” discharge from the Navy. No criminal charges were filed for those shootings, proving that a black man can’t get justice in America.
STEVE: I believe it was Athens that asked its citizens to pick the city’s biggest asshole to be exiled (“ostracized”) simply because he was an asshole.
Maybe you can combine ostracism with fund raising?
I think you could increase voter turnout (especially from the dead) by including a vote on candidates to be publicly stoned.
Think of the primaries.
The Libertarians would finally stop whining about not getting on the ballot.
Think of the recounts.
Think of the ticket scalping to the event itself and the money raised by the TV rights.
Even if the wrong guy loses we all win.
You’re assuming the bad behavior isn’t heritable.
These guys could probably afford one of their own:
Mick Jagger Slept With Two Other Rolling Stones, New Book Claims
In more stomachable music news:
‘Love Me Do’: W&M professor, students analyze Beatles’ enduring music
The technology is irrelevant. With the society we have today they’d never be arrested much less prosecuted. They were obviously political prisoners!
White supremacy is to blame, as it has been since I was a kid.
https://www.vizaca.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/10/Colby-Bennard-Survived-From-Tennessee-Dog-Attack.jpg
For you pit bull lovers, your favorite breed killed those two kids and mauled their mom. The beloved pit bull was part of the family.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/family-dogs-kill-2-tennessee-children-injure-mom-who-tried-to-stop-mauling-family-says/ar-AA12K1Gg?OCID=ansmsnnews11Replies: @Buzz Mohawk, @rebel yell, @Verymuchalive, @Alden, @Mr. Anon, @ic1000, @JosephD
First check out dogsbite.org. And then check out the pit bull defenders sites. Of which there are many. Amazing the lengths liberals go to defend whacked out murderous Pitbull. Dog rescue is a multimillion dollar business .
It's as if their the feral Blacks of the dog world.Replies: @Buzz Mohawk
Would some nice tasty scat be better?
https://motherless.com/00DE30DReplies: @Polistra
It’s sadly telling that this is the sort of post that meets Steve’s standards.
Many of us wait hours and even days for our posts to show.
But this kind of crap? Oh it sails right through.
PROFILER: “The killer lives in a detached home, owns a large dog and drives a classic muscle car.”
When caught, the killer lives in an apartment, owns a cat, and drives a 1968 Camaro.
EVERYONE: “Nailed the muscle car! Amazing!”Replies: @Buzz Mohawk, @Alden, @Inquiring Mind, @Rob
Here’s the standard profile. Male, between 20 and 40, owns a car, works at a humdrum job. Fits millions. The DC snipers killed others too. Niece of the ex wife, and several people they robbed on their journey from Washington state to Maryland. They waited outside restaurants and other businesses till closing time and followed the owners to the bank night deposit. Just a couple of harmless homeless .
Most Whites don’t realize how much we are hated by academics such as Levin, black government workers like Sheriff Moose to the media and our employers. Hire anything but a European White.
As Dave Chappelle pointed out…”When I found out these shootings were happening during work hours I said, ‘Uh oh.”
OT — Paypal tried to roll out American Sesame Credit, but reversed course in hours after a huge backlash, and may suffer Monday.
"It could have been an average white guy who did it," isn't going to help your investigation of a sniper very much. It's like "profiling" a drive-by gang shooter as "likely to be a black male." No sh*t, Sherlock.Replies: @Paul Mendez, @J.Ross, @Whereismyhandle
This. Profiling is inevitable. There really are places where it really is one subgroup of one group of people who are causing all the problems. The argument against it presupposes that our legal system has no checks or appeals, which is moronic.
"It could have been an average white guy who did it," isn't going to help your investigation of a sniper very much. It's like "profiling" a drive-by gang shooter as "likely to be a black male." No sh*t, Sherlock.Replies: @Paul Mendez, @J.Ross, @Whereismyhandle
Profiling is completely laughable junk pseudoscience and always has been.
There’s a TON of bullshit floating around in the “science” of solving crimes.
DNA testing finding these old killers disproving the trope of “they only escalate and keep killing more! and they want to get caught!” has been funny.
As research deepened and more were caught, it became clear that serial killers are all unique in their behavior and psychology*. The BTK meticulously planned and executed home invasions and massacres, never really changing his style. He ended up getting caught because he lost the nerve to actually kill anyone but was eager to stay in the spotlight so he began sending stuff to the media. Computer meta-data was used to determine the origin of the e-mails/files he was sending. You also had quite a few guys (like the Original Nightstalker) who stopped killing for some years, resumed, and then stopped for good, coinciding often times with both personal stress and opportunity, e.g. a bitter break-up of the killers marriage fueling his violent tendencies while also granting more freedom to target people.
And seemingly all serial killers age out of killing people, very few murders are committed after the age of about 45. Only in recent decades, with the use of DNA and busting elderly ex-killers, has it become apparent that older people really do not like violence, even aging serial killers.
*Though its true that virtually all serial killers are lower-class, at best middle-middle class with John Wayne Gacy being a stark exception. They either struggle to hold down a job or at best, are content to hold the same lower status job for years (e.g. the Green River Killer painted trucks for like 35 years). Upper class people are too happy and conscientious to have any desire to kill people.
I remember another case in Atlanta in the early 80s, where a number of young black men started turning up dead. The “profile” of the killer centered on a white man killing blacks out of racial animus, but even from the start, some observers suspected the young men were being lured to their deaths as part of a homosexual tryst. Turns out the killer was Wayne Williams, a black homosexual serial killer.
I was working in Bethesda and living in northern Virginia when the shootings occurred. There was something approaching mass panic. I remember that a high school football game’s location was not revealed until the teams got on their respective buses.
We’re lucky there haven’t been more copy-cats of these jerks.
https://www.vizaca.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/10/Colby-Bennard-Survived-From-Tennessee-Dog-Attack.jpg
For you pit bull lovers, your favorite breed killed those two kids and mauled their mom. The beloved pit bull was part of the family.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/family-dogs-kill-2-tennessee-children-injure-mom-who-tried-to-stop-mauling-family-says/ar-AA12K1Gg?OCID=ansmsnnews11Replies: @Buzz Mohawk, @rebel yell, @Verymuchalive, @Alden, @Mr. Anon, @ic1000, @JosephD
This is exactly the sort of thing I’ve discussed here and the the women of Alden assured me I was lying about.
Pit Bulls aren’t sweet, affectionate doggies. They are vicious dogs bred to be killers.
A highway patrolman who looked exactly like Robert Duvall stopped me on interstate I40 because he thought I fit the profile driving a white van, even though 3000 miles away. He ended up giving me a phoney pretext ticket to justify the stop. What a hassle to get it nullified back in Florida.
I wouldn’t agree about the MB personality test (Kersey’s 16 types).
I took that test thrice, in different forms & got the same type. Then, I read the description of that type (perhaps 30-40 sentences).
It was correct ca. 60-70%. It was, give or take, my personality (inclinations, interests, likes, dislikes, talents, weaknesses etc.).
Then I read descriptions of the other 15 types. Some close types were correct- meaning, describing my personality, perhaps 30-40%, while others were less than 10%. In comparison with MBTI, OCEAN is probably more “scientific”, but also boring, sterile & shallow, offering no insight worth mentioning.
So- MBTI works on an elementary level.
But, it offers nothing new. It says about you what you already know.
ⓐ is more than 0.5σ above the median IQ; and
ⓑ knows why they're being evaluated.
That's the problem.
If a 'test' only works if the person answers honestly, it's not a sensible test.
Example: everyone - even the downright stupid kids - know that they get an easier ride at school if they get a diagnosis of
• ADHD
• dyslexia
• dysgraphia[1]
• dysphoria
• anxiety
• etc.
If they're ever evaluated for any of those things, even the fucking idiots know pretty much exactly what to say.
If a test can be targeted - that is to say,
• positive things are expected to flow if the test results in a certain score in one direction; and
• getting a score in the desired direction is easy...
then it's a shit test.
Think about how easy it would be to score low on an IQ test. If having a tested IQ of below 85 generated significant advantages, the world would be awash in people who scored 75. because its easy to do - just imagine yourself as a Reddit moderator.
Now consider if the same thing is true if there were benefits to high IQ (there are, up to a point... too high and you're just an autist). High IQ can't be faked except by getting the test answer in advance - the old (((George Costanza))) trick.
I'm 'naturally' (i.e., answering honestly) INTJ, but if there was $200k a year on the line depending on me being some emotional basket case who cannot into numbers, I reckon I could fake it.
It's the equivalent of
• knowing in advance that a Capricorn gets the job; and
• one of the questions is "What's your birthday?"; and
• nobody can check if you're lying (i.e., they take the answers at face value or are incompetent).
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[1] 'dysgraphia' is actually a new [pretend] thing in the excuse armoury for parents of half-retards. Nobody wants to say "The kid's 14 and he hasn't been taught to write".
My brother's kid has this 'dysgraphia' bullshit on his list of excuses for why he's a comlpete fucking mong who cannot into readin' and writin' and numbers 'n' shit. Oddly he has no drama communicating with friends and family via [various smart-phone apps].
I diagnosed a high probability of offspring mong-ness before any of his kids was born, based on one look at the kid's mother the day I met her (no accounting for taste, but Sheeeeesh).
"Criminal Minds" used the shooting-from-the-trunk bit a few years later. While it was heavily sanitized and whitened, there were enough sexually deviant killers on that show that it probably couldn't be made today.Replies: @Nicholas Stix
Neither did I, and I followed the case very closely, and reported on it. The msm covered it up. They didn’t do quite as thorough a job covering up the nation of islam angle.
FBI “profiler” Robert K. Ressler popularized the myth, whereby serial killers were almost all White men. Ressler was a publicity whore, and knew what the msm wanted, so he would perjure himself as an “expert witness,” testifying at trials, and the msm would give him royal treatment.
“The Beltway Sniper Killings Equal Zebra Killings II?”
https://thezebraproject.blogspot.com/2013/02/the-beltway-sniper-killings-equal-zebra.html
OCEAN is pretty boring. The one thing I’ve read about OCEAN that I found quite interesting was some marketing professors listing a movie’s fans’ OCEAN scores. That proved interesting: the biggest outlier were fans of sports movies.
and who cares if he gave his kid a weird name?Replies: @kaganovitch
and who cares if he gave his kid a weird name?
His kid, for one.
Steve, I heard you bumped into Kanye at the grocery store, what was that like?
Notice his position: head of an ADL ripoff.
Amazing the lengths liberals go to defend whacked out murderous Pitbull.
It’s as if their the feral Blacks of the dog world.
Yes, I remember the movie stuff.
Don’t take things said at a parole hearing at face value
Muhammad was 25 years older than Malvo. He first befriended him when he met him in Antigua, when Malvo was about 14. He reconnected with him when Malvo and his mother came to America. According to Wikipedia, Muhammad was isolating him from his mother, and was falsely listed as his father when he enrolled in high school.Replies: @JimDandy, @Alden
Unbelievable. And things can only have got worse in the 30 years since these events.
What do you have to do to get a dishonourable discharge from the military?
Use the wrong pronoun.
It is just setting them up for failure.Replies: @James Speaks, @AndrewR
My gardener is named Jesus, and he is a success.
It wasn’t unreasonable, at first, to believe the shooter was more likely to be white, given that the murders were committed by a sniper. But when the police are dealing with a typical black crime, they would never publicly announce, “This is more likely to have been committed by a black male, because the shooter just sprayed into the crowd, hitting a dozen people who had no connection with his intended victim. Experience has shown that this is far more typical of black shooters than those of any other race”.
Police have been profiling criminals for hundreds of years. It helps them concentrate their resources on the most fruitful line of enquiry, according to who the suspect is likely to be. It’s usually considered as instinct, or a hunch based on years of experience. The mistake is to believe – or pretend – that profiling can have scientific precision, like DNA identification.
They weren’t really gay, cuz they were Black. Only white boys are gay.
Before we laugh at his tranny son/daughter, remember he named his kid with Grimes "X Æ A-12." This is not the behavior of a good father, to put it mildly. No amount of money can make up for that.Replies: @R.G. Camara, @Anonymous, @Hi There, @Hypnotoad666, @Kim, @Dvnjbbgc
A rose by any other name…
The most dangerous animal I ever came in contact with was a large pit bull. I was at the home of a martial arts expert who lived in the country. His pit bull was named Fang. Fang stood by the table all night, waiting to kill someone if told to. He had dead eyes. With permission, I petted Fang. He did not respond to petting.Replies: @Twinkie, @BosTex, @Anon
There is a lot of misconceptions in your comment.
1. You don’t have to worry about dogs with good temperaments, whatever the breed they are. That said, all dogs are predator pack animals and can hurt humans, especially little ones.
2. Dogs don’t “turn aggressive.” They attack to hunt, to protect territory, to protect the pack (including, yes, their humans), to fight off rivals for access to females (in the case of males), or because they are hurt and/or are fearful. In almost all cases of fatal dog attacks on humans, the attacking dogs are males, especially intact ones, and have been bred/socialized poorly. Although the breeds responsible for such attacks have changed over the years (some decades ago German Shepherd Dogs were the most frequent, now “pit bull” type dogs are, although identification is generally quite inaccurate in press reports), the other characteristics of offending dogs haven’t changed.
3. The “pit bull” type dogs are powerful breeds, but they do not have the most powerful jaws. The mastiff-type breeds (Kangals, Presa Canarios, Dogo Argentinos, English Mastiffs, etc. all have much more powerful bite forces than American Pit Bull Terriers do – pretty much double that of the latter). APBTs have comparable bite force of German Shepherd Dogs.
4. People – “grown men” or otherwise – should not be trying to “pry open” mouths of dogs. That’s just stupid and is a recipe for getting bitten, especially if the dog in question is in the throes of aggression. That has nothing to do with a particular breed. The way to get a dog to open its mouth is 1) ideally, with a release or drop it command or 2) by picking up the dog’s rear legs and continuing to turn.
This is out of a cartoon.
You shouldn’t associate with people who train dogs to “to kill someone” although that is not as easy as it sounds. Fatal dog attacks are almost exclusively incidents that involve untrained dogs. I’ve done lots of Schutzhund training over the years – if a dog is actually properly trained for protection, you don’t have to worry about a thing unless you intend to attack the handler of the said dog.
Cat people are more intelligent than dog people. In other words, intelligent people (correctly) recognize that many dogs aren't worth the trouble of having around.Replies: @Twinkie
According to the profile, most likely.
True, but I see no way this couldn’t have been a homosexual relationship, where Muhammad groomed Malvo from an early age.
Muhammad was 25 years older than Malvo. He first befriended him when he met him in Antigua, when Malvo was about 14. He reconnected with him when Malvo and his mother came to America. According to Wikipedia, Muhammad was isolating him from his mother, and was falsely listed as his father when he enrolled in high school.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/horrific-d-c-sniper-boasts-090258634.html
Good, you reap what you sow. Elon Musk is fully on board with transhumanism, so let him have a taste of fluid identity in his own flesh and blood.
Probably, but if they shot a film based on those premises, it’s a sure Oscar winner.
Have a confederate flag tattoo, LOL
It is just setting them up for failure.Replies: @James Speaks, @AndrewR
In Latin America and the Islamic world those names are so common that no one expects any more from Jesus or Mohammad than they do from Jorge or Jamal
Didn’t they have a list of license plates from stopping cars around each shooting site? And wasn’t the sniper’s car on this list multiple times? Why didn’t Chief Moose just match the plates from different sites?
Here’s some racial profiling that Steve can get behind.
https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/florida-surgeon-general-recommends-against-mrna-covid-19-vaccines-males-aged-18-39
But you can keep the vaccine bullshit alive because Look at who The SG is:
So what does he know?
There are indeed generational differences in temperament and values, however, the net effect of a generation is mostly dependent on a handful of elites/influencers from that generation. A Millennial recently wrote a book on Boomers which specifically covered heavy hitters like Bill Gates, Camille Paglia, Steve Jobs etc. and essentially judged the entire generation based on these people. The verdict? Boomers were too selfish, indulgent, and individualistic to have had a net positive impact. The author is a conservative who talks about the “old boys networks” and such that used to rule society. She admits that sort of thing had endemic corruption, but social harmony and morale was much greater back then compared to Boomers and subsequent generations bringing me-first narcissism to the forefront which dramatically reduces social cohesion. Newer generations have a fair degree of social capital in elite ranks but the mid-lower classes are neurotic and self-destructive.
Lest anyone think this is all anti-Boomer, I did say that their negative traits also exist in subsequent generations. And as per Ed Dutton, a lot of these character defects seem to be the result of dysgenics, there seem to be far more idiots and insane mental cases these days . That being said, since the culture of the 60’s and 70’s promoted so much youthful narcissism (promoting discussion of the “Me generation”) a lot of Boomers take an undue amount of pride in what their generation accomplished (though I would say that the Silent Generation actually led or at least co-signed on every trend of the 60’s and 70’s).
1. You don't have to worry about dogs with good temperaments, whatever the breed they are. That said, all dogs are predator pack animals and can hurt humans, especially little ones.
2. Dogs don't "turn aggressive." They attack to hunt, to protect territory, to protect the pack (including, yes, their humans), to fight off rivals for access to females (in the case of males), or because they are hurt and/or are fearful. In almost all cases of fatal dog attacks on humans, the attacking dogs are males, especially intact ones, and have been bred/socialized poorly. Although the breeds responsible for such attacks have changed over the years (some decades ago German Shepherd Dogs were the most frequent, now "pit bull" type dogs are, although identification is generally quite inaccurate in press reports), the other characteristics of offending dogs haven't changed.
3. The "pit bull" type dogs are powerful breeds, but they do not have the most powerful jaws. The mastiff-type breeds (Kangals, Presa Canarios, Dogo Argentinos, English Mastiffs, etc. all have much more powerful bite forces than American Pit Bull Terriers do - pretty much double that of the latter). APBTs have comparable bite force of German Shepherd Dogs.
4. People - "grown men" or otherwise - should not be trying to "pry open" mouths of dogs. That's just stupid and is a recipe for getting bitten, especially if the dog in question is in the throes of aggression. That has nothing to do with a particular breed. The way to get a dog to open its mouth is 1) ideally, with a release or drop it command or 2) by picking up the dog's rear legs and continuing to turn.This is out of a cartoon.
You shouldn't associate with people who train dogs to "to kill someone" although that is not as easy as it sounds. Fatal dog attacks are almost exclusively incidents that involve untrained dogs. I've done lots of Schutzhund training over the years - if a dog is actually properly trained for protection, you don't have to worry about a thing unless you intend to attack the handler of the said dog.Replies: @Feryl, @Mike Tre, @Johann Ricke
Most pitbull owners are the kind of people incapable of responsible pet ownership. It precisely is the menacing quality of pitbulls that makes them attractive to retarded thugs.
Cat people are more intelligent than dog people. In other words, intelligent people (correctly) recognize that many dogs aren’t worth the trouble of having around.
DNA testing finding these old killers disproving the trope of "they only escalate and keep killing more! and they want to get caught!" has been funny.Replies: @Feryl
In the late 70’s and 80’s they were busting tons of serial killers, but it was too early and not enough data was available to accurately make proclamations that “they keep killing more often, more savagely, and they never stop”. I’m guessing that meme was derived from the fact that they caught guys like Richard Ramirez and Ted Bundy who got really bold and sloppy in the latter stages of their “career”.
As research deepened and more were caught, it became clear that serial killers are all unique in their behavior and psychology*. The BTK meticulously planned and executed home invasions and massacres, never really changing his style. He ended up getting caught because he lost the nerve to actually kill anyone but was eager to stay in the spotlight so he began sending stuff to the media. Computer meta-data was used to determine the origin of the e-mails/files he was sending. You also had quite a few guys (like the Original Nightstalker) who stopped killing for some years, resumed, and then stopped for good, coinciding often times with both personal stress and opportunity, e.g. a bitter break-up of the killers marriage fueling his violent tendencies while also granting more freedom to target people.
And seemingly all serial killers age out of killing people, very few murders are committed after the age of about 45. Only in recent decades, with the use of DNA and busting elderly ex-killers, has it become apparent that older people really do not like violence, even aging serial killers.
*Though its true that virtually all serial killers are lower-class, at best middle-middle class with John Wayne Gacy being a stark exception. They either struggle to hold down a job or at best, are content to hold the same lower status job for years (e.g. the Green River Killer painted trucks for like 35 years). Upper class people are too happy and conscientious to have any desire to kill people.
Muhammad was 25 years older than Malvo. He first befriended him when he met him in Antigua, when Malvo was about 14. He reconnected with him when Malvo and his mother came to America. According to Wikipedia, Muhammad was isolating him from his mother, and was falsely listed as his father when he enrolled in high school.Replies: @JimDandy, @Alden
‘Malvo’s present-day compunction is far too little, too late, just as the case he makes for his own victimhood vis-à-vis Muhammad sounds like an accurate and yet insufficient explanation. He knew that gunning down men, women and children was dreadfully wrong, and yet in order to maintain Muhammad’s affection, he actively, and enthusiastically, chose to do it—and even got a thrilling kick from it, as he explains that post-shooting sex with Muhammad was exceptionally exciting and delivered a “high.”’
https://www.yahoo.com/news/horrific-d-c-sniper-boasts-090258634.html
The most dangerous animal I ever came in contact with was a large pit bull. I was at the home of a martial arts expert who lived in the country. His pit bull was named Fang. Fang stood by the table all night, waiting to kill someone if told to. He had dead eyes. With permission, I petted Fang. He did not respond to petting.Replies: @Twinkie, @BosTex, @Anon
Thanks Buzz. My family loves to take a walk round a large park near our house. Just a fun outing.
Seems that every other dog is a pit bull of some type. I am always keeping the little one away.
At work: we recently provided a care and charitable event for the local animal shelter. Certainly a worthy event. I happen to love dogs and have had 6 dogs over the years, all
Rescues.
At the shelter: almost all pit bulls. No more just regular dogs to adopt.
It's as if their the feral Blacks of the dog world.Replies: @Buzz Mohawk
Exactly.
What do you have to do to get a dishonourable discharge from the military?
Use the wrong pronoun.
Here is the younger Vivian strutting his stuff:
https://youtu.be/qKXsrWrmbAg&t=1m05sReplies: @Ganderson
“Really wild General! Thank you, sir!”
Really? Please explain.
2) Virginia had the cojones to execute the older guy. The younger one is still breathing in Maryland.
REVEALED: The woman Washington D.C. sniper Lee Boyd married in jail is a wealthy 'trust fund baby' and activist who donated THOUSANDS of dollars to Bernie Sandershttps://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2020/03/13/14/25932724-8109277-image-m-4_1584108230941.jpg https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2020/03/13/14/25932722-8109277-image-a-5_1584108241674.jpgReplies: @TontoBubbaGoldstein, @anon
*Looks at pic*
You sure he went straight, Chief?
Multiple children with multiple women?
With actresses and musicians?
Giving children weird names?
Absentee dad?
Mr. Musk is an African American who came upon a lot of personal wealth.
Remember aaron alexis? Nobody else does. He was the kind of mass-murderer the media is serious about when they claim they don’t want to give them publicity.
Prior to murdering 12 at the Washington Navy Yard in 2013, a record unmatched by dylann roof, alexis had two incidents of firing a gun at or near innocent victims before his “honorable” discharge from the Navy. No criminal charges were filed for those shootings, proving that a black man can’t get justice in America.
I lived in the area at the time. The Home Depot shooting was at my HD just 6 miles from my house. There was enough (seeming) randomness to the shooting locations that people were terrified. Halloween was cancelled. I remember standing behind the gas pump while fueling my car.
It was that idiot black (I repeat myself) police chief Moose who came up with the white van theory on the basis of zero evidence. Look around sometime and you will see that white is the default van color.
It was not the cops who got them. It was some trucker at a rest stop on I-70 who blocked them in and called the (useless) cops.
PROFILER: “The killer lives in a detached home, owns a large dog and drives a classic muscle car.”
When caught, the killer lives in an apartment, owns a cat, and drives a 1968 Camaro.
EVERYONE: “Nailed the muscle car! Amazing!”Replies: @Buzz Mohawk, @Alden, @Inquiring Mind, @Rob
Then there is when Norm MacDonald met his neighbor, a Professor of Logic.
Eugenics trumps morality.
You can’t build a civilization on imagination.
Lest anyone think this is all anti-Boomer, I did say that their negative traits also exist in subsequent generations. And as per Ed Dutton, a lot of these character defects seem to be the result of dysgenics, there seem to be far more idiots and insane mental cases these days . That being said, since the culture of the 60's and 70's promoted so much youthful narcissism (promoting discussion of the "Me generation") a lot of Boomers take an undue amount of pride in what their generation accomplished (though I would say that the Silent Generation actually led or at least co-signed on every trend of the 60's and 70's).Replies: @Jim Don Bob
Well said. This was especially true of the Silent Generation of professors at universities who were silent first when students rioted in the 60s and then again when various grievance studies departments (gay, black, etc.) were started. They let the camels put their noses under the tent and now the camels run the tent.
1. You don't have to worry about dogs with good temperaments, whatever the breed they are. That said, all dogs are predator pack animals and can hurt humans, especially little ones.
2. Dogs don't "turn aggressive." They attack to hunt, to protect territory, to protect the pack (including, yes, their humans), to fight off rivals for access to females (in the case of males), or because they are hurt and/or are fearful. In almost all cases of fatal dog attacks on humans, the attacking dogs are males, especially intact ones, and have been bred/socialized poorly. Although the breeds responsible for such attacks have changed over the years (some decades ago German Shepherd Dogs were the most frequent, now "pit bull" type dogs are, although identification is generally quite inaccurate in press reports), the other characteristics of offending dogs haven't changed.
3. The "pit bull" type dogs are powerful breeds, but they do not have the most powerful jaws. The mastiff-type breeds (Kangals, Presa Canarios, Dogo Argentinos, English Mastiffs, etc. all have much more powerful bite forces than American Pit Bull Terriers do - pretty much double that of the latter). APBTs have comparable bite force of German Shepherd Dogs.
4. People - "grown men" or otherwise - should not be trying to "pry open" mouths of dogs. That's just stupid and is a recipe for getting bitten, especially if the dog in question is in the throes of aggression. That has nothing to do with a particular breed. The way to get a dog to open its mouth is 1) ideally, with a release or drop it command or 2) by picking up the dog's rear legs and continuing to turn.This is out of a cartoon.
You shouldn't associate with people who train dogs to "to kill someone" although that is not as easy as it sounds. Fatal dog attacks are almost exclusively incidents that involve untrained dogs. I've done lots of Schutzhund training over the years - if a dog is actually properly trained for protection, you don't have to worry about a thing unless you intend to attack the handler of the said dog.Replies: @Feryl, @Mike Tre, @Johann Ricke
This family apparently had those two dogs for 8 years. The fact that they both suddenly attacked the small children pretty soundly supports the assertions made about pitbulls: that they are dangerous exactly because it seems to be a breed that is prone to randomly attack a human regardless of the positive or negative aspects of its history, training, treatment, etc.
By the way, a number of breeds have higher tendencies of a rare condition called "rage syndrome": https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rage_syndrome
It is most common with Spaniel breeds, but has been reported also among retriever breeds and bull terriers as well. It is also present among Greater Swiss Mountain Dogs and Bernese Mountain Dogs though very rarely.Replies: @Wilkey
High treason. Murder, but apparently in this case attempted murder didn’t get him one. It’s beyond scandalous that he wasn’t at least separated administratively for stealing the rifle. And, given that he wasn’t, and got deployed later, beyond scandalous that he didn’t at least get at least 5 years in Leavenworth and a Bad Conduct Discharge for the grenade incident.
https://www.vizaca.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/10/Colby-Bennard-Survived-From-Tennessee-Dog-Attack.jpg
For you pit bull lovers, your favorite breed killed those two kids and mauled their mom. The beloved pit bull was part of the family.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/family-dogs-kill-2-tennessee-children-injure-mom-who-tried-to-stop-mauling-family-says/ar-AA12K1Gg?OCID=ansmsnnews11Replies: @Buzz Mohawk, @rebel yell, @Verymuchalive, @Alden, @Mr. Anon, @ic1000, @JosephD
“Liberal, Not Lefty” seems to be a knowledgeable guard-dog owner. In the wake of the pit bulls’ mauling of those two kids, she posted a long and informative thread on Twitter.
It’s amazing how much havoc can be wrought by a couple of homicidal maniacs. Millions of people cower in fear for weeks even though the likelihood of any one person being shot is extremely low.
Yes, I remember “Dr. Moose” and the “white man white van,” which he knowingly kept peddling even after he full well knew that that was incorrect.
Their blackness is somewhat dismissed now, but their homosexuality is really memory holed.
Have ya ever heard of a Levin that wasn’t jewish?
“The Washington D.C. Snipers…”
Now that’s a perfect name for the football team.
Refuse the vaxx.
Even after Wayne Williams was convicted; every once in a while some black activists demanded further investigation because it must have been an evil White man.
Pit Bulls aren't sweet, affectionate doggies. They are vicious dogs bred to be killers.Replies: @Alden
Hey you POS. Read my post # 54 praising the anti Pitbull website dogsbite.org. It advocates outlawing Pitbulls entirely. And serious prison sentences for breeders and owners of pit bulls.
Maybe you can combine ostracism with fund raising?Replies: @Bill Jones
The Athenians were right but a bit wussie.
I think you could increase voter turnout (especially from the dead) by including a vote on candidates to be publicly stoned.
Think of the primaries.
The Libertarians would finally stop whining about not getting on the ballot.
Think of the recounts.
Think of the ticket scalping to the event itself and the money raised by the TV rights.
Even if the wrong guy loses we all win.
Muhammad was 25 years older than Malvo. He first befriended him when he met him in Antigua, when Malvo was about 14. He reconnected with him when Malvo and his mother came to America. According to Wikipedia, Muhammad was isolating him from his mother, and was falsely listed as his father when he enrolled in high school.Replies: @JimDandy, @Alden
I read that Mohammed encouraged and helped Malvo and his mother come to America.
How can you say that, given that the majority of murders in black run cities are not solved, ?
Even modern technology isn't perfect and is often seriously underutilized, but read any book about older serial killers (Ted Bundy, etc.) and you'll soon realize how many of their actions would have gotten them quickly arrested if they tried killing people that way today. That's probably one of the big reasons you don't hear as much about serial killers anymore. Many of the guys who would have killed 5-10-20 people back in the 70s and 80s is now getting caught after only his first or second murder.
Stockton, CA apparently has a serial killer on the loose, and his method appears to be the simplest of all - just walk around at night and kill apparently random people. It takes all the "fun" out of it - Ted Bundy got to rape his victims, before and after he killed them, and dress up the corpses and take their photos - but it removes a lot of the risk of being caught.Replies: @Feryl
My recollection that an older iSteve post discussed the research of Anthony Walsh (Boise State University) seems to be wrong. However, Walsh’s key article was referenced by commenter syonredux in 2017.
African Americans and Serial Killing in the Media: The Myth and the Reality
Homicide Studies Vol. 9 No. 4, November 2005, pages 271-291. PDF. Abstract:
Fair-use quotes below the fold.
Cat people are more intelligent than dog people. In other words, intelligent people (correctly) recognize that many dogs aren't worth the trouble of having around.Replies: @Twinkie
This is a wildly exaggerated statement.
Well, cat owners are more likely to be single, leftist, and engage in sodomy than dog owners.
Asking for a friend ...
I'm left wondering how many times the couple in this story got mega-tingles whenever they got to preen "yes, he's a rescue". Ungrateful bastard!
I've had both cats and dogs in the house for most of my life. Hopefully having the dog, too, keeps me from sodomy!Replies: @Twinkie
From Slack:
Fans of the Manchurian Candidate may remember this odd detail:
https://www.cnn.com/2002/US/South/10/24/sniper.message/index.html
The next day the snipers were found sleeping in a car and apprehended without incident.
Is Levin a jewish name? I don’t even notice these things. He just resembles almost every nerd who ultimately wins the girl from the obnoxious/undeserving jock in every Hollywood movie I grew up watching. This may have started in the 1970’s when Sherwood Schwartz had nice but nerdy Charley (Stuart Goetz) win beautiful Marcia’s heart away from the captain of the football team Doug Simpson (Nicholas Hammond/Von Trapp) in the Brady Bunch episode ironically titled, “The Subject Was Noses.”
That doesn’t make sense. Wouldn’t it be easier with a dog?
Asking for a friend …
Lest we forget, schittbag negro Chief Moose, following this debacle, tried to cash in on his epic fail, signing on as a consultant to a TV movie about the DC sniper ordeal, as well as inking a lucrative book deal. He worked for Maryland’s Montgomery County, and both deals were in violation of the county’s policy for employees. He didn’t care. The county only found out he did this when made aware by media stories announcing the chief’s shenanigans. He never asked nor told them. They told him no, and he resigned to cash in on his newfound “fame”. He went on a media blitz to pick up mo’ money, yukking in up with Jay Leno and others.
His publicity hounding /moneygrubbing was pervasive enough to endanger the prosecution’s case in the snipers’ trials and cause worries about tainting the jury pool. (Hell, he probably wanted the “bruthas” to get off.)
Another fun fact: Negro Moose was married to a White woman. The two, separately and together, specialized in filing lawsuits for “discrimination”, included a reported $200K they scammed from Marriot a couple months after the sniper ordeal–they went to a luxurious Hawaiian resort owned by Marriot in Dec. 2002, “exhausted” from bungling the case.
Michelle Malkin wrote a good column on them. Google around and there’s more than that. They both filed all kinds of suspect lawsuits and complaints, and got plenty of money from them.
https://web.archive.org/web/20100130231747/http://capmag.com/article.asp?ID=3099
They also murdered a guy on a Tucson golf course.
https://www.vizaca.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/10/Colby-Bennard-Survived-From-Tennessee-Dog-Attack.jpg
For you pit bull lovers, your favorite breed killed those two kids and mauled their mom. The beloved pit bull was part of the family.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/family-dogs-kill-2-tennessee-children-injure-mom-who-tried-to-stop-mauling-family-says/ar-AA12K1Gg?OCID=ansmsnnews11Replies: @Buzz Mohawk, @rebel yell, @Verymuchalive, @Alden, @Mr. Anon, @ic1000, @JosephD
I feel like something is missing from the story. When one reads about dogs attacking a child, one thinks it was someone else’s kid. No, it was the owners. That’s odd…so the dog was new? No, they had the dogs for 8 years. The…kids were new? Not really, one was 2 years and the other was 6 months old. Ok, so one day a dog snapped? Well, no, actually it was two dogs who went crazy. Ah..so…um…the owners stepped outside and the dogs attacked? No, mom was there and they even attacked her too.
WTF? I don’t care if they were pit bulls, we’re at a several sigma event or there are key facts missing. Having a dog for 8 years entails many things; at a minimum, the dog is at least 8 years old. That’s enough time for a reasonable history of behavior and to lose the youthful aggressiveness.
What happened was a tragedy. I wish the family more sympathy and less snark.
(no, I don’t own any pit bulls)
Cats? Dogs? Hmmm…
*taking weekends off
Most black people hate cats, and blacks are more liberal, gay, and stupid than whites.
Blacks do tend to be slightly more homosexual than whites and, yes, have lower average IQ. However, they are NOT socially as liberal as whites. Audacious Epigone used to run a series of posts, full of data, showing one of the crucial reasons why "the Coalition of the Fringes" were perpetually unstable - white liberals in the coalition were far more socially liberal than the nonwhites in the coalition.Replies: @Feryl
And it was all a lie. As soon as the killers were shown to be black and Muslim all talk of race vanished, like it had never happened.Replies: @OFWHAP
This happened around the same time as Derek Todd Lee’s serial killings. “Be on the lookout for an angry white male driving a white pickup truck.” We saw how that turned out.
The next day the snipers were found sleeping in a car and apprehended without incident.Replies: @Bostonvegas
I never understood the signifigance of that statement…could you explain it?
Note too that at one shooting they left a note on a Tarot card:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TzNPYPp_v78
Huh? What?
Should you really be surprised this is the law of the land?
Since the 1982 Plyler v. Doe when Lewis Powell, in 1971 another bad Nixon choice did his usual swing vote to the hard Left. He was replaced by Kennedy, and this is part of why the Left in the US can’t accept the current Supreme Court.
I need to look some more to be certain, but Powell wasn’t all bad in that I’m pretty sure before then there was a Leftist majority, probably going back all the way to the 1937 switch in time that saved nine.
Even then, don’t forget Brett Kavanaugh was Kennedy’s clerk and hand picked successor, Gorsuch is fully on board with World War T, we certainly don’t have a Right majority today between them and Roberts joining as the see fit with the three hard Lefties to further dissolve our society and nation. And with the Deep State at minimum claiming they assassinated Scalia and the studied indifference towards protecting the current right of Mao justices or fingering the leaker of Dobbs….
Most of them hate animals period. They shouldn’t be permitted any kind of proximity.
Their blackness is somewhat dismissed now, but their homosexuality is really memory holed.Replies: @That Would Be Telling
Went so far as to not release to the public the information about them and their car after it was realized. That was of course leaked, too many in public safety to keep it confined to them as the imbecile Moose desired. As a result a civilian found them, as I recall a white trucker who everyone knows would have lynched them on the spot instead of calling the police. We have no idea how many lives that leak saved.
PayPal for some time has had a $2,500 “fine” per violation of their policies, but supposedly this just applied to illegal actions like fraud. Last month they extended it to:
A day or two ago they declared the above was their own misinformation and will be changed before it goes into effect next month.
That satire was a big fail. We can't read minds here. It's hard enough to understand good writing...
But in sum, PayPal decided to postpone its Corporate Suicide Policy. Who would sign up with PayPal under those terms?
Who do they think they are? Facebook?Replies: @J.Ross
No, but there would be much torpedoing of silos.
WTF? I don't care if they were pit bulls, we're at a several sigma event or there are key facts missing. Having a dog for 8 years entails many things; at a minimum, the dog is at least 8 years old. That's enough time for a reasonable history of behavior and to lose the youthful aggressiveness.
What happened was a tragedy. I wish the family more sympathy and less snark.
(no, I don't own any pit bulls)Replies: @Buzz Mohawk, @BB753, @Dave from Oz
Perhaps you don’t understand how unpredictable pit bulls are. This is the kind of thing that can happen with them. Your questions quite simply are irrelevant. First of all, those parents should not have had pit bulls with kids, period. Second, they should not have owned pit bulls at all.
There are plenty of similar stories. Often it is a neighbor, friend, elderly person, or even the adult owner who is the victim. The averages and events are a magnitude worse compared to other breeds. People make excuses for them, and it really is similar to how people try to ignore racial differences among humans, as other commenters have pointed out.
Instead of repeating unproven assertions and hysterical statements based on "feelz," actually do some reading on the research on fatal dog attacks: https://www.amazon.com/Fatal-Dog-Attacks-Stories-Statistics/dp/0972191402I don't own any "pit bull" type dogs and probably never will, but I have lived with, rescued, raised, and trained dogs for many decades, including for personal protection. The reasons "pit bull" type dogs have become the most common breed in fatal dog attacks in the recent decades have little to nothing to do with the innate qualities of the breed, which was historically used for bull-baiting and dog-fighting, not for aggression against humans. Scientifically assessed, they are not even the most aggressive of dog breeds (Rottweilers, for example, are far more aggressive on average). Read my comment on this above: https://www.unz.com/isteve/the-washington-d-c-snipers-after-20-years-dont-mention-the-botched-racial-profiling/#comment-5593572
The number one reason Pitties have become overrepresented in fatal dog attacks in the recent decades has to do with its dramatic increase in popularity among the wrong demographic. When German Shepherd Dogs were the most sought after by the wrong demographic several decades earlier, it was the dog breed most commonly represented in fatal dog attacks.
Responsible American Pit Bull Terrier or American Staffordshire Terrier breeders are going to screen for physical health and good temperament, including genetic screening (when I acquired a Japanese Akita-Inu a while back, the breeder showed me comprehensive genetic screening results for the sire and the dam on top of many other kinds of information and she also closely observed the temperaments of the puppies to select one for me based on what I requested).
When fatal dog attacks are examined in detail - whatever the breed - in the vast majority of cases, the dogs were invariably from questionable sources (often puppy mills, not breeders), poorly socialized, untrained, exhibited signs of aggression early on, and the owners/handlers were utterly irresponsible (such as encouraging aggression or leaving small children to mishandle the dogs alone, etc.).
On this blog, occasionally I shared the story of one male dog I rescued, of a breed that was used for dog fighting in its native country, that was exceptionally dog-aggressive. It took an enormous amount of training to re-socialize that dog and I was successful in the end (that dog did bite a person once, but in order to protect my wife who was walking him - a teenager had run out of his house and tackled my wife inadvertently).
Once I got him to trust me and follow my commands, he was trustworthy with children (not that I'd ever leave a small child alone with a dog, any dog). Once, years ago, when I was at a video store that allowed dogs, I was in in the checkout line with that dog. A toddler came out of the crowd and smacked that dog in the nose with a lollypop. The dog calmly sat there and looked up at me (he was seeking my cue, i.e. "This small human hit my nose and it hurts a lot - may I deal with it?"). I told him to stay and then addressed the child and found and took him back to his parents (and ever so gently chided them for letting him smack a strange dog). And that was a dog that, just a year or so prior, was ready to tear to pieces every other male dog on the street. In the end, he was the most affectionate and eager-to-please dog my family had ever had (aggressive dogs are actually relatively easier to re-train - it's the fearful, anxious dogs that are very hard).
As for comparing dog breeds to human races, these are very different contexts (because dogs are these days selectively-bred and can undergo changes much more quickly due to earlier sexual maturity and shorter generational spans), but even if the comparison were to hold, social and environmental conditions matter a great deal (e.g. American blacks in the 1950's had lower out-of-wedlock births rate than American whites do today). Indeed, "nurture" is not separate from "nature" - there is a constant feedback loop between the two. If, for the sake of argument, we restricted breeding among blacks to those exhibiting particular characteristics (e.g. bookishness, mild temperaments, etc.), it isn't going to take too many generations before "blacks" end up becoming different kinds of people. Put another way, people and animals don't regress to racial or breed means, they regress to the means of their ancestors.
In general, popularity tends to ruin dog breeds these days. That's why I opposed AKC accepting Japanese Akita-Inu's. And why I continue to oppose it accepting other breeds such the Kangals.His questions are exactly those thinking people should ask instead of engaging in emotional hyperbole.
I dunno, Twinks. The Pitbull demographic seems to consist of black male buttheads and moronic young white women/couples. When your pet is a reflection of the current thing in your social cohort, it speaks to your decision-making skills. Pitbull, Mastiff, Akita, etc. ownership with young children is pretty much a Darwin Award waiting for the spot marked X.
I’m left wondering how many times the couple in this story got mega-tingles whenever they got to preen “yes, he’s a rescue”. Ungrateful bastard!
I’ve had both cats and dogs in the house for most of my life. Hopefully having the dog, too, keeps me from sodomy!
PROFILER: “The killer lives in a detached home, owns a large dog and drives a classic muscle car.”
When caught, the killer lives in an apartment, owns a cat, and drives a 1968 Camaro.
EVERYONE: “Nailed the muscle car! Amazing!”Replies: @Buzz Mohawk, @Alden, @Inquiring Mind, @Rob
Cops also consult psychics. At least, that is what the $3.99/minute phone psychic lines used to advertise. Remember Mistress Cleo? Whatever happened to her? Must have ascended to the spirit realm.
Profiling might be useful(ish) if you are looking for a white guy for a spree crime today. The profiler could always be, “remember John Allen Mohamed and Lee Malvo? They were black,” and earn his salary.
Probably (maybe) profilers do provide some value-add by telling cops that there are non-white serial killers. But maybe cops already know that?
The most dangerous animal I ever came in contact with was a large pit bull. I was at the home of a martial arts expert who lived in the country. His pit bull was named Fang. Fang stood by the table all night, waiting to kill someone if told to. He had dead eyes. With permission, I petted Fang. He did not respond to petting.Replies: @Twinkie, @BosTex, @Anon
I encountered the worst example I can recall only a few weeks ago. I step out of the convenience store and on the sidewalk is a docile but utterly enormous, barrel-shaped grey-white-pink pitbull-thing. It was basically the same size as the owner, an ordinary-looking middle-class adult male who also had brought his little daughter with him. If the dog had a mind to it, it could have dragged the guy around like those humorous cases where a small girl is pulled along after a large, freedom-loving dog when having a walk. In short, it did not seem in the least to be restrained. I made my exit without lingering.
They were just on the down lo.
The website owned and operated by a leftist Jewish woman? The one with cherrypicked citations? That one? Nobody is saying that pitbulls don’t have a lot of problems from generations of abuse, but retards like you crowing for yet more restrictions on Americans are nothing but useful idiots. No assault dogs, indeed.
I was a BDO (“Business Development Officer”) for a regional bank that had us take the MBTI. You could game it, and people did. I took it a few times alone first and it was obvious. The results went into our files and potentially effected our team leader’s decisions about us.
People gamed it to come out looking like leadership material.
The one psych/personality test I know works is the MMPI (Minnesota Multiphasic Personality Inventory.) Unlike Myers-Briggs, its questions are not obvious and can’t be gamed. They have no apparent relation to what they will indicate collectively. The results are determined by years of statistical analysis of who gives what answers to little questions that are not directly related to the characteristics.
Compared to the MMPI, the MBTI is a bad joke.
Malvo is in Virginia Supermax for shooting a lady FBI clerk at a home depot in Fairfax County Virginia. Maryland originally arrested them. W sent a crew of US Marshals to scoop them from Maryland custody for delivery to a federal lockup in Alexandria Virginia. From there, they were assigned trials, the older one in Prince William County, VA, Malvo in Fairfax County. He would have been needled except for questions about his age.
If my questions are irrelevant, are you up for a cash bet? The US has a reasonable statistical universe of folks with multiple pit bulls they’ve had over 8 years and have young kids. What’s your over/under for the number of such attacks (multiple older, established dogs attack their family whom they have known) in the next 6 months? Put up a number and we can discuss the amount of wager and who can hold the stakes.
Want a dog with kiddies? Get a Yorkie, get a golden retriever.Replies: @Twinkie
I don’t believe so, as I recall they chose their sites well so they could slip away quickly by one or more major highways; this was very true in the one site I looked at closely since I regularly spent time there. Police response just to the site of a shooting, let alone setting up a cordon quickly enough would make such a scheme impractical, we’re not a “Papiere, bitte.” country (yet).
I never heard the homo connection but the MSM did everything they could not to say Muslim.
It supposedly originates with a Cherokee folktale. It’s telling to conspiracy theorists because it’s a phrase no one says, making it useful as a trigger, in this case an “off switch”, in mind controlled subjects.
Note too that at one shooting they left a note on a Tarot card:
With actresses and musicians?
Giving children weird names?
Absentee dad?
Mr. Musk is an African American who came upon a lot of personal wealth.Replies: @Mike Tre
Plus he’s the biggest welfare queen in the country.
They shot the woman at the Home Depot from a parking lot across 4 lane Route 50 from HD. It was a pretty good shot.
I never heard the homo connection but the MSM did everything they could not to say Muslim.
Yep. To this very day.
REVEALED: The woman Washington D.C. sniper Lee Boyd married in jail is a wealthy 'trust fund baby' and activist who donated THOUSANDS of dollars to Bernie Sandershttps://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2020/03/13/14/25932724-8109277-image-m-4_1584108230941.jpg https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2020/03/13/14/25932722-8109277-image-a-5_1584108241674.jpgReplies: @TontoBubbaGoldstein, @anon
Murdering seems to be a good career move to find a mate
A certain percentage of females find that attractive
Let’s do it even better, Joe. Compare the number of attacks proportionally for any other breed, and read the accounts of who was attacked. The stats and stories are already in. Stop defending a bad breed.
If you really want to do your own test, get two pit bulls, have two kids, and live with them. Take your chances. Would you?
MBTI is about as useful as Star Signs if the person being evaluated
ⓐ is more than 0.5σ above the median IQ; and
ⓑ knows why they’re being evaluated.
That’s the problem.
If a ‘test’ only works if the person answers honestly, it’s not a sensible test.
Example: everyone – even the downright stupid kids – know that they get an easier ride at school if they get a diagnosis of
• ADHD
• dyslexia
• dysgraphia[1]
• dysphoria
• anxiety
• etc.
If they’re ever evaluated for any of those things, even the fucking idiots know pretty much exactly what to say.
If a test can be targeted – that is to say,
• positive things are expected to flow if the test results in a certain score in one direction; and
• getting a score in the desired direction is easy…
then it’s a shit test.
Think about how easy it would be to score low on an IQ test. If having a tested IQ of below 85 generated significant advantages, the world would be awash in people who scored 75. because its easy to do – just imagine yourself as a Reddit moderator.
Now consider if the same thing is true if there were benefits to high IQ (there are, up to a point… too high and you’re just an autist). High IQ can’t be faked except by getting the test answer in advance – the old (((George Costanza))) trick.
I’m ‘naturally’ (i.e., answering honestly) INTJ, but if there was $200k a year on the line depending on me being some emotional basket case who cannot into numbers, I reckon I could fake it.
It’s the equivalent of
• knowing in advance that a Capricorn gets the job; and
• one of the questions is “What’s your birthday?”; and
• nobody can check if you’re lying (i.e., they take the answers at face value or are incompetent).
——————–
[1] ‘dysgraphia’ is actually a new [pretend] thing in the excuse armoury for parents of half-retards. Nobody wants to say “The kid’s 14 and he hasn’t been taught to write“.
My brother’s kid has this ‘dysgraphia’ bullshit on his list of excuses for why he’s a comlpete fucking mong who cannot into readin’ and writin’ and numbers ‘n’ shit. Oddly he has no drama communicating with friends and family via [various smart-phone apps].
I diagnosed a high probability of offspring mong-ness before any of his kids was born, based on one look at the kid’s mother the day I met her (no accounting for taste, but Sheeeeesh).
I guess the “American Sesame Credit” was an intended satirical name for this fascist policy. Like in China’s “social credit” scheme.
That satire was a big fail. We can’t read minds here. It’s hard enough to understand good writing…
But in sum, PayPal decided to postpone its Corporate Suicide Policy. Who would sign up with PayPal under those terms?
Who do they think they are? Facebook?
It was Bernie Sanders’ generation who made up the lion’s share of key leaders and activists in the 60’s, Not actual Baby Boomers. True, Boomers did protest and riot but they didn’t actually have much ideological or intellectual influence… At that time. Once they got old enough to make more of a difference in the 80’s, that’s when society shifted to the rampant individualism we have now.
That Home Depot at Seven Corners replaced my favorite Chinese restaurant, the Inn of the Eight Immortals, not a good name for a murder site. Its interior had bluish light, which wasn’t flattering, but the food was good.
This tragedy was total preventable. Don’t have pit bulls and small children in close proximity.
Want a dog with kiddies? Get a Yorkie, get a golden retriever.
And Golden Retrievers generally have mild temperaments, but, again, a poorly-bred and -socialized Goldens are going to be dangerous to people. My dogs and I have been attacked by more than one that had been cooped up in the backyard, never had training or regular exercise.
Dogs, whatever the breeds, are animals and dogs first, breeds second. Poorly-bred and -socialized dogs that are untrained are always a potential danger to small children and other vulnerable humans (e.g. the elderly).
1. You don't have to worry about dogs with good temperaments, whatever the breed they are. That said, all dogs are predator pack animals and can hurt humans, especially little ones.
2. Dogs don't "turn aggressive." They attack to hunt, to protect territory, to protect the pack (including, yes, their humans), to fight off rivals for access to females (in the case of males), or because they are hurt and/or are fearful. In almost all cases of fatal dog attacks on humans, the attacking dogs are males, especially intact ones, and have been bred/socialized poorly. Although the breeds responsible for such attacks have changed over the years (some decades ago German Shepherd Dogs were the most frequent, now "pit bull" type dogs are, although identification is generally quite inaccurate in press reports), the other characteristics of offending dogs haven't changed.
3. The "pit bull" type dogs are powerful breeds, but they do not have the most powerful jaws. The mastiff-type breeds (Kangals, Presa Canarios, Dogo Argentinos, English Mastiffs, etc. all have much more powerful bite forces than American Pit Bull Terriers do - pretty much double that of the latter). APBTs have comparable bite force of German Shepherd Dogs.
4. People - "grown men" or otherwise - should not be trying to "pry open" mouths of dogs. That's just stupid and is a recipe for getting bitten, especially if the dog in question is in the throes of aggression. That has nothing to do with a particular breed. The way to get a dog to open its mouth is 1) ideally, with a release or drop it command or 2) by picking up the dog's rear legs and continuing to turn.This is out of a cartoon.
You shouldn't associate with people who train dogs to "to kill someone" although that is not as easy as it sounds. Fatal dog attacks are almost exclusively incidents that involve untrained dogs. I've done lots of Schutzhund training over the years - if a dog is actually properly trained for protection, you don't have to worry about a thing unless you intend to attack the handler of the said dog.Replies: @Feryl, @Mike Tre, @Johann Ricke
Out of curiosity, have you ever had an incident involving a dog that you know was trained?
Properly-trained Schutzhund dogs are highly responsive and emotionally stable. They must be able to attack, bite, and hold on command as well as release immediately upon command... although while not being distracted by other stimuli. They are working dogs and require regular reinforcement training.
I don’t know the history of those dogs or how that family has raised them, so I can’t comment on the specifics.
That assertion is not borne out by actual studies into the issue. In almost all cases of fatal dog attacks, untrained, intact males with prior histories of violence were involved (something like 90+%).
By the way, a number of breeds have higher tendencies of a rare condition called “rage syndrome”: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rage_syndrome
It is most common with Spaniel breeds, but has been reported also among retriever breeds and bull terriers as well. It is also present among Greater Swiss Mountain Dogs and Bernese Mountain Dogs though very rarely.
Incompetent and had a chip on his shoulder. Sounds like every black person I ever worked with in my life.
In my experience, black people are more fearful of dogs than whites are.
Blacks do tend to be slightly more homosexual than whites and, yes, have lower average IQ. However, they are NOT socially as liberal as whites. Audacious Epigone used to run a series of posts, full of data, showing one of the crucial reasons why “the Coalition of the Fringes” were perpetually unstable – white liberals in the coalition were far more socially liberal than the nonwhites in the coalition.
* The Greatest difference between the parties is the desired size and purpose of government. Historically, upper middle class whites have wanted the smallest possible government while underclass non-whites want the government to give them lots of "free" stuff.Replies: @Twinkie
It was that idiot black (I repeat myself) police chief Moose who came up with the white van theory on the basis of zero evidence. Look around sometime and you will see that white is the default van color.
It was not the cops who got them. It was some trucker at a rest stop on I-70 who blocked them in and called the (useless) cops.Replies: @anonymouseperson
Do you know if he got the reward?
This was touched upon in the book freakonomics 2.
I'm left wondering how many times the couple in this story got mega-tingles whenever they got to preen "yes, he's a rescue". Ungrateful bastard!
I've had both cats and dogs in the house for most of my life. Hopefully having the dog, too, keeps me from sodomy!Replies: @Twinkie
I don’t deny this, but it is exaggerated. Well-bred and -socialized American Pit Bull Terriers (APBT) are loyal and delightful companions. And there are many owners who raise such dogs.
I can assure you, however, that the ghetto black males who get “pit bulls” aren’t getting them from responsible breeders and socializing/training them well. There are also certain downscale white demographics that ape this trend. To be stereotypical about it, it’s the kind of people who take testosterone supplements and have tattoos all over their bodies and try to “take up the whole street” on the walk.
There is nothing inherently wrong with this breed. The problem is that it has become – in the last twenty years or so – the “status breed” for the “wannabe thug demographic” for lack of a better term. So there are many irresponsible puppy mills and owners who do an enormous disservice to the breed (this also happened for a while with German Shepherds about 30-40 years ago or so when it was the number one breed in fatal dog attacks, but this was prior to the rise of social media).
I raised my children with powerful dogs around. I currently have a Kangal and a Japanese Akita-Inu among others. I believe in dog-proofing kids, not child-proofing dogs (a bit like with guns – I believe in gun-proofing kids, not child-proofing guns).
Although tragic, fatal dog attacks are extremely rare. In the U.S., there are about 30-50 annually. That’s, more or less, on par with those who die each year from lightning strikes (about 30).
If you took proper precautions, the chances of both incidents approach zero.
By the way, if you are interested in the actual science of “aggressive dog breeds,” this is a good primer: https://topdogtips.com/aggressive-dog-breeds/
Not to nitpick, but “Akita Inu” is redundant (as is “Shiba Inu”). “Inu” is Japanese for “dog”.
"Akita" is the name of the prefecture whence it originates... "not to nitpick."Replies: @AceDeuce
That satire was a big fail. We can't read minds here. It's hard enough to understand good writing...
But in sum, PayPal decided to postpone its Corporate Suicide Policy. Who would sign up with PayPal under those terms?
Who do they think they are? Facebook?Replies: @J.Ross
Apologies, I honestly thought more people were already on the story since it’s actually a pretty big story. I was seeing attestation after attestation of claimed PayPal account holders dropping the company even after the reversal. PayPal once had the power to force something like this but now there are a dozen perfectly good alternatives.
Levin is a proprietarily Jewish name except that, like Abram, non-Jewish Russians have adopted it, like they have a few Hebrew letters in Cyrillic. As a last name (and varied Levine) it’s as Jewish as Cohen. Probably from Löwen (lion).
Hey, hysterical crazy woman, read what you yourself wrote:
It’s not redundant. Just as we say “Bernese Mountain Dog,” we say “Japanese Akita-Inu” (or “Akita-Ken”). In any case, that is the official name of the breed in English (as opposed to the American Akita).
“Akita” is the name of the prefecture whence it originates… “not to nitpick.”
Sorry, I don't know what point you're attempting to make. Have a good cry and you'll feel better in the morning.Replies: @Twinkie
Want a dog with kiddies? Get a Yorkie, get a golden retriever.Replies: @Twinkie
With smaller dogs, the chance of fatality is great reduced, simply because they are physically smaller and weaker. But research has shown that small and medium size breeds tend to be more aggressive on average, so those kiddies are going to get stitches on their faces with a poorly-bred and -socialized small dogs.
And Golden Retrievers generally have mild temperaments, but, again, a poorly-bred and -socialized Goldens are going to be dangerous to people. My dogs and I have been attacked by more than one that had been cooped up in the backyard, never had training or regular exercise.
Dogs, whatever the breeds, are animals and dogs first, breeds second. Poorly-bred and -socialized dogs that are untrained are always a potential danger to small children and other vulnerable humans (e.g. the elderly).
What do you mean by “an incident”? A bite? Sustained aggression?
Properly-trained Schutzhund dogs are highly responsive and emotionally stable. They must be able to attack, bite, and hold on command as well as release immediately upon command… although while not being distracted by other stimuli. They are working dogs and require regular reinforcement training.
The face tattoos of dogs. Only morons have them.
A certain percentage of females find that attractiveReplies: @Rob McX
I disagree. The only mates these murderers find are batshit-crazy lib women. I’m sure the women only do it because they know they’ll never have to live with the killer and any visits to him will be closely supervised. They get the frisson, but without any real danger.
WTF? I don't care if they were pit bulls, we're at a several sigma event or there are key facts missing. Having a dog for 8 years entails many things; at a minimum, the dog is at least 8 years old. That's enough time for a reasonable history of behavior and to lose the youthful aggressiveness.
What happened was a tragedy. I wish the family more sympathy and less snark.
(no, I don't own any pit bulls)Replies: @Buzz Mohawk, @BB753, @Dave from Oz
Dogs need owners who are dominant. If you treat your dog like a kid it will misbehave and maul you if it’s large enough. This pitbull didn’t know his place in the household, which should be last after even the smallest child. I’d blame the adults ( particularly the wife) if they hadn’t been already punished for their foolishness.
Good answer. Profiling requires belief in the value of statistical probability. Naysayers and some ideologues conveniently forget about that, if they ever understood it at all.
Thanks for writing out the hidden presuppositions of the argument against this.
Really disappointed in Steve Sailer, His obvious bias has made him make important mistakes in the DC sniper scenario. He is correct in pointing out that the profilers did a terrible job. Howver, the two were not gay. Muhammad had been married with children. Plus he had other female lovers. One has only to take the time to look into Malvo’s troubled upbringing to see how he was easily manipulated by the older Muhammed. Anybody taking the time to look into Muhammed’s personality can easily discern that he had an identity disorder. Basically he was a Manchurian candidate since his time in the military. That is the reason he got an honorable discharge. Multiple people who knew him thought he acted like he was two different people. Then there is the message Chief Moose sent out right before they were captured sleeping at a rest stop: “You have indicated that you want us to do and say certain things. You have asked us to say, ‘We have caught the sniper like a duck in a noose.’ We understand that hearing us say this is important to you”. One has only to look into who Moose’s wife is to know that kind of message came from her studies. Not from Muhammed. It was probably implanted in him during his conditioning. It would never come up in conversation or the media. The duo did murder people. Anybody who has ever driven in DC would know that the timing of two of the attacks were too close in time to be committed by the same agents. The sniper attacks were carried out by real snipers probably from the military. The sniper attacks occurred at the time right as the U.S. Congress was passing the Authorization for Use of Military Force Against Iraq Resolution of 2002.
I think the presence of traffic cameras, private security systems, license plate readers, etc., would have significantly shortened the search.
Even modern technology isn’t perfect and is often seriously underutilized, but read any book about older serial killers (Ted Bundy, etc.) and you’ll soon realize how many of their actions would have gotten them quickly arrested if they tried killing people that way today. That’s probably one of the big reasons you don’t hear as much about serial killers anymore. Many of the guys who would have killed 5-10-20 people back in the 70s and 80s is now getting caught after only his first or second murder.
Stockton, CA apparently has a serial killer on the loose, and his method appears to be the simplest of all – just walk around at night and kill apparently random people. It takes all the “fun” out of it – Ted Bundy got to rape his victims, before and after he killed them, and dress up the corpses and take their photos – but it removes a lot of the risk of being caught.
Of course, post-George Floyd, there's been a big uptick in crime and hedonism regardless of modern technology. Look at all the adrenaline junkie motorists speeding like crazy. We'll have to wait 10-15 years to see how many serial killers get caught in order to judge serial killer trends (not until the late 70's was there widespread awareness of serial killers and their prevalence).Replies: @Wilkey
By the way, a number of breeds have higher tendencies of a rare condition called "rage syndrome": https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rage_syndrome
It is most common with Spaniel breeds, but has been reported also among retriever breeds and bull terriers as well. It is also present among Greater Swiss Mountain Dogs and Bernese Mountain Dogs though very rarely.Replies: @Wilkey
The problem with that 90% stat is the question of what an owner does with a dog who starts to show signs of aggression. It’s an incredibly difficult decision to get rid of an aggressive dog, especially when you know the likely result will be the dog being put down. Which is why most people should stay away from these breeds to begin with.
You should, first, endeavor to get your dog from a responsible breeder or rescue organization (that do temperament testing). And, in the case where the dog shows negative behaviors, you should train that dog under the guidance of an experienced dog trainer (not the young female at Petco with 2 years of experience). If you were a responsible owner, you'd do puppy socialization and responsible canine companion training anyway.
If the dog proved to be too much to handle or you were unwilling to devote the time, energy, and resources, surrender to dog to a rescue or give away the dog to someone who is willing. If you acquired the dog from a responsible breeder, he will usually require you to surrender to the dog back to him rather than dump him elsewhere (that's in the contracts I sign with my breeders).It's like that with many things in life, e.g. guns, cars, etc. Heck, even children. I see many, many people who handle firearms irresponsibly and should seek training. I frequently see people who parent poorly.
Are you going to ban large segments of people from owning these things or having children?Replies: @Wilkey
Seems that every other dog is a pit bull of some type. I am always keeping the little one away.
At work: we recently provided a care and charitable event for the local animal shelter. Certainly a worthy event. I happen to love dogs and have had 6 dogs over the years, all
Rescues.
At the shelter: almost all pit bulls. No more just regular dogs to adopt.Replies: @Gabe Ruth
It’s the canine version of the Bantu expansion.
Know what else was there up near IHOP? Before Home Depot and before Woodward And Lothrop? E.J. Corvettes, a department store. ALL Ruined, because of blacks.
It’s not that simple. Crude dominance might cower a dog into submission, but then you might have a dog that is emotionally unstable and fearful and lash out at strangers.
The dominance, as such, has to be a firm, but loving one that provides for emotional stability, consistency, affection, and trust. You are not going to have a dog that obeys you while ignoring all its instincts (e.g. to go after prey, another dog, other humans, etc.) unless the dog trusts you and understands what it is that you want and what it has to do in order to attain your rewards/affection for it.
Simply bullying a dog for dominance can backfire spectacularly and lead to a dog that is highly reactive… just as with a child.
There are also people who just don't get dogs and can never understand their behavior. Those people should never own a large dog in the first place.Replies: @Twinkie
“Pit bulls” aren’t some magical creatures that are incomprehensible. They are dogs, foremost, and breeds second. Dogs are fairly predictable creatures that evince their emotional states with behaviors and body language. You can almost always tell when a dog is about to attack if you study and understand their body language. They – whatever the breed – don’t randomly “go bad” and attack for no reason.
Instead of repeating unproven assertions and hysterical statements based on “feelz,” actually do some reading on the research on fatal dog attacks: https://www.amazon.com/Fatal-Dog-Attacks-Stories-Statistics/dp/0972191402
I don’t own any “pit bull” type dogs and probably never will, but I have lived with, rescued, raised, and trained dogs for many decades, including for personal protection. The reasons “pit bull” type dogs have become the most common breed in fatal dog attacks in the recent decades have little to nothing to do with the innate qualities of the breed, which was historically used for bull-baiting and dog-fighting, not for aggression against humans. Scientifically assessed, they are not even the most aggressive of dog breeds (Rottweilers, for example, are far more aggressive on average). Read my comment on this above: https://www.unz.com/isteve/the-washington-d-c-snipers-after-20-years-dont-mention-the-botched-racial-profiling/#comment-5593572
The number one reason Pitties have become overrepresented in fatal dog attacks in the recent decades has to do with its dramatic increase in popularity among the wrong demographic. When German Shepherd Dogs were the most sought after by the wrong demographic several decades earlier, it was the dog breed most commonly represented in fatal dog attacks.
Responsible American Pit Bull Terrier or American Staffordshire Terrier breeders are going to screen for physical health and good temperament, including genetic screening (when I acquired a Japanese Akita-Inu a while back, the breeder showed me comprehensive genetic screening results for the sire and the dam on top of many other kinds of information and she also closely observed the temperaments of the puppies to select one for me based on what I requested).
When fatal dog attacks are examined in detail – whatever the breed – in the vast majority of cases, the dogs were invariably from questionable sources (often puppy mills, not breeders), poorly socialized, untrained, exhibited signs of aggression early on, and the owners/handlers were utterly irresponsible (such as encouraging aggression or leaving small children to mishandle the dogs alone, etc.).
On this blog, occasionally I shared the story of one male dog I rescued, of a breed that was used for dog fighting in its native country, that was exceptionally dog-aggressive. It took an enormous amount of training to re-socialize that dog and I was successful in the end (that dog did bite a person once, but in order to protect my wife who was walking him – a teenager had run out of his house and tackled my wife inadvertently).
Once I got him to trust me and follow my commands, he was trustworthy with children (not that I’d ever leave a small child alone with a dog, any dog). Once, years ago, when I was at a video store that allowed dogs, I was in in the checkout line with that dog. A toddler came out of the crowd and smacked that dog in the nose with a lollypop. The dog calmly sat there and looked up at me (he was seeking my cue, i.e. “This small human hit my nose and it hurts a lot – may I deal with it?”). I told him to stay and then addressed the child and found and took him back to his parents (and ever so gently chided them for letting him smack a strange dog). And that was a dog that, just a year or so prior, was ready to tear to pieces every other male dog on the street. In the end, he was the most affectionate and eager-to-please dog my family had ever had (aggressive dogs are actually relatively easier to re-train – it’s the fearful, anxious dogs that are very hard).
As for comparing dog breeds to human races, these are very different contexts (because dogs are these days selectively-bred and can undergo changes much more quickly due to earlier sexual maturity and shorter generational spans), but even if the comparison were to hold, social and environmental conditions matter a great deal (e.g. American blacks in the 1950’s had lower out-of-wedlock births rate than American whites do today). Indeed, “nurture” is not separate from “nature” – there is a constant feedback loop between the two. If, for the sake of argument, we restricted breeding among blacks to those exhibiting particular characteristics (e.g. bookishness, mild temperaments, etc.), it isn’t going to take too many generations before “blacks” end up becoming different kinds of people. Put another way, people and animals don’t regress to racial or breed means, they regress to the means of their ancestors.
In general, popularity tends to ruin dog breeds these days. That’s why I opposed AKC accepting Japanese Akita-Inu’s. And why I continue to oppose it accepting other breeds such the Kangals.
His questions are exactly those thinking people should ask instead of engaging in emotional hyperbole.
That’s a false choice.
You should, first, endeavor to get your dog from a responsible breeder or rescue organization (that do temperament testing). And, in the case where the dog shows negative behaviors, you should train that dog under the guidance of an experienced dog trainer (not the young female at Petco with 2 years of experience). If you were a responsible owner, you’d do puppy socialization and responsible canine companion training anyway.
If the dog proved to be too much to handle or you were unwilling to devote the time, energy, and resources, surrender to dog to a rescue or give away the dog to someone who is willing. If you acquired the dog from a responsible breeder, he will usually require you to surrender to the dog back to him rather than dump him elsewhere (that’s in the contracts I sign with my breeders).
It’s like that with many things in life, e.g. guns, cars, etc. Heck, even children. I see many, many people who handle firearms irresponsibly and should seek training. I frequently see people who parent poorly.
Are you going to ban large segments of people from owning these things or having children?
I meant dominance the same way you do. But if it takes bullying to make a large dog obey you and know it’s place, it’s better to err on the safe side.
There are also people who just don’t get dogs and can never understand their behavior. Those people should never own a large dog in the first place.
Blacks do tend to be slightly more homosexual than whites and, yes, have lower average IQ. However, they are NOT socially as liberal as whites. Audacious Epigone used to run a series of posts, full of data, showing one of the crucial reasons why "the Coalition of the Fringes" were perpetually unstable - white liberals in the coalition were far more socially liberal than the nonwhites in the coalition.Replies: @Feryl
Social issues are irrelevant. Economic issues matter*. Blacks will always vote for more handouts. Hell, blacks won’t vote to be tougher on crime even when they make up the majority of crime victims. Why? Fewer handouts. Stefan Molyneux always said that third world IQ and Democracy don’t mix well. Lower class (as in lower IQ) always want more handouts. The US white working class has historically been conservative in the sense of voting against blacks getting more handouts. I suspect that the rapidly increasing number of non-whites in other Western nations has been causing blue collar whites to turn against Leftism in those countries as well. That was the root of the Reagan Democrat phenomena, yuppies wanted neo-liberalism but lunch pail whites realized that modern Leftists were unconditionally pampering the lousiest blacks.
* The Greatest difference between the parties is the desired size and purpose of government. Historically, upper middle class whites have wanted the smallest possible government while underclass non-whites want the government to give them lots of “free” stuff.
Even modern technology isn't perfect and is often seriously underutilized, but read any book about older serial killers (Ted Bundy, etc.) and you'll soon realize how many of their actions would have gotten them quickly arrested if they tried killing people that way today. That's probably one of the big reasons you don't hear as much about serial killers anymore. Many of the guys who would have killed 5-10-20 people back in the 70s and 80s is now getting caught after only his first or second murder.
Stockton, CA apparently has a serial killer on the loose, and his method appears to be the simplest of all - just walk around at night and kill apparently random people. It takes all the "fun" out of it - Ted Bundy got to rape his victims, before and after he killed them, and dress up the corpses and take their photos - but it removes a lot of the risk of being caught.Replies: @Feryl
The problem with your thesis is that in the late 90’s there was a collapse in all kinds of violent and risky behavior, regardless of technology, except for youth binge drinking which was somewhat worse than it was in the early 90’s. So that would explain the decline in serial killing. People just calmed down and became boring. In terms of a “social contagion”, there was a big trend toward hedonism in the late 60’s/70’s (encompassing drugs, sex, violence, crime, etc.) which diminished slightly in the 80’s. Then there was a big surge in nihilism among late Boomers and X-ers in the early-mid 90’s, resulting in a lot of nasty stuff. Then circa 1997, boom, it was over. Violence, crime, and sexual deviancy declined dramatically.
Of course, post-George Floyd, there’s been a big uptick in crime and hedonism regardless of modern technology. Look at all the adrenaline junkie motorists speeding like crazy. We’ll have to wait 10-15 years to see how many serial killers get caught in order to judge serial killer trends (not until the late 70’s was there widespread awareness of serial killers and their prevalence).
There are also people who just don't get dogs and can never understand their behavior. Those people should never own a large dog in the first place.Replies: @Twinkie
Let me repeat:
Too much indulgence is bad, but so is too much harshness. There is a sweet spot.
* The Greatest difference between the parties is the desired size and purpose of government. Historically, upper middle class whites have wanted the smallest possible government while underclass non-whites want the government to give them lots of "free" stuff.Replies: @Twinkie
Social issues are not irrelevant and your assertion is falsified by history.
You should, first, endeavor to get your dog from a responsible breeder or rescue organization (that do temperament testing). And, in the case where the dog shows negative behaviors, you should train that dog under the guidance of an experienced dog trainer (not the young female at Petco with 2 years of experience). If you were a responsible owner, you'd do puppy socialization and responsible canine companion training anyway.
If the dog proved to be too much to handle or you were unwilling to devote the time, energy, and resources, surrender to dog to a rescue or give away the dog to someone who is willing. If you acquired the dog from a responsible breeder, he will usually require you to surrender to the dog back to him rather than dump him elsewhere (that's in the contracts I sign with my breeders).It's like that with many things in life, e.g. guns, cars, etc. Heck, even children. I see many, many people who handle firearms irresponsibly and should seek training. I frequently see people who parent poorly.
Are you going to ban large segments of people from owning these things or having children?Replies: @Wilkey
I’m sure much of what you say is accurate, but Pit Bulls were literally bred to be a fighting dog. There is only so much you can do to counter genetics.
There is a difference between inter-dog aggression and aggression against humans. Many breeds have been used for dog-fighting in the past. And almost all dogs have been used for hunting, i.e. attacking and killing prey animals. That, too, is different from inter-dog aggression and aggression against humans.
To repeat, the current preponderance of “Pit Bulls” in fatal dog attacks is largely a socially created problem. Several decades ago, when these terriers were not on the “thug demographic” radar and GSDs were, the latter was the top breed in fatal dog attacks.
Be grateful that the “thug demographic” hasn’t become aware of the likes of Kangals, Presa Canarios, Dogo Argentinos, Tosa-Inus, and Poongsan dogs. They make your “Pit Bulls” look like toy dogs.
Of course, post-George Floyd, there's been a big uptick in crime and hedonism regardless of modern technology. Look at all the adrenaline junkie motorists speeding like crazy. We'll have to wait 10-15 years to see how many serial killers get caught in order to judge serial killer trends (not until the late 70's was there widespread awareness of serial killers and their prevalence).Replies: @Wilkey
There are a lot of theories about why crime rates seemed to fall off so much in early 90s. One compelling one is related to the banning of lead gasoline. My hypothesis regarding serial killers is a separate issue unrelated to overall murder rates. All I’m suggesting is that it’s harder to have the kinds of serial killers we had in the 70s and 80s because it’s simply that much harder to get away with a long series of murders. That’s why mass shooters have sort of taken over in the public psyche.
As for lead exposure correlating to anti-social behavior, well, the irony is that people were much more outgoing and happy in the 60's-80's when pollution levels were much higher. Post-Boomers have a lot of their own mental issues inflicted by coming of age around joyless peers, don't get me wrong, but clearly Boomers were hurt and even killed by spending too much time outside and being too trusting.
The interesting thing about mass shooters is that they are to Millennials/Gen Z what serial killers were to Silents/Boomers (Gen X doesn't really fit into either side of the violent psychopath trend. Perhaps extremely maladjusted Millennials/Gen Z would've been serial killers in an outgoing climate, but with such difficulty at social interactions as we see in the current era it's much easier for them to just run amok and attack complete strangers. Also, the sexualized component to serial killing is absent in mass killers, again a reflection of the joyless anhedonia seen in those born after 1980**.
*The 1961-1964 cohort was extremely troubled and also was a really large generation, thus explaining why overall crime peaked in the late 80's/early 90's.
**Those born after 1980 are having way less sex than previous generations.
"Akita" is the name of the prefecture whence it originates... "not to nitpick."Replies: @AceDeuce
No schitt, Sherlock. I already knew that. I haven’t been to Akita, but I have been to Aomori Prefecture adjacent to it.
Sorry, I don’t know what point you’re attempting to make. Have a good cry and you’ll feel better in the morning.
WTF? I don't care if they were pit bulls, we're at a several sigma event or there are key facts missing. Having a dog for 8 years entails many things; at a minimum, the dog is at least 8 years old. That's enough time for a reasonable history of behavior and to lose the youthful aggressiveness.
What happened was a tragedy. I wish the family more sympathy and less snark.
(no, I don't own any pit bulls)Replies: @Buzz Mohawk, @BB753, @Dave from Oz
What makes pitbulls so dangerous is that they can be sweet and affectionate for years, and then suddenly snap when their prey drive is triggered. They kill things that are weak and small – possibly the kid stumbled on the path, or cried out in pain for whatever reason. That will send them instantly into a killing frenzy, no matter their history up to that point.
They attempted to write law and grant themselves the power to enforce it with fines.
Sorry, I don't know what point you're attempting to make. Have a good cry and you'll feel better in the morning.Replies: @Twinkie
I lived and worked in Japan, you silly person. I didn’t need your attempted nitpicking about what “inu” meant in Japanese.
Your projection and juvenile idiocy are noted.
I’ll try really small words this time. Pay attention. The dog breed in question is called “Japanese Akita-Inu.” In Japan, it’d be called an Akita-inu or Akita-ken.* “Japanese” is added in the West, because there is another breed called an “American Akita,” that is far more prevalent in the West.
Notwithstanding your shallow nitpicking attempt, the “-inu” is not redundant. It’s like saying “Dog” in “Bernese Mountain Dog” is redundant. Next time, try to be intelligent instead of posting an inane triviality in an effort to say something.
*The pattern is the same in Korean. The native Jindo Dog is called Jindo-Gae or Jindo-Gyun locally. Both ken and gyun are respective local pronunciations of the Chinese word 犬 (quan).
Now, it’d have been redundant if I called the dog “Akita-inu dog,” as that is saying “Akita dog dog,” but I didn’t.
Levels of social anxiety (for lack of a better term) were very low among Boomers. Boomers are more trusting than other generations. That fueled the outgoing climate of the 70’s and 80’s that criminals took advantage of. Crime was really high in the early 90’s too, but the latest Boomers didn’t hit 30 until 1994*. The rapid reduction in crime that happened by 1997 coincides with Boomers aging out of their peak crime years and Millennials entering their peak crime years. And young early cohort Millennials were much less outgoing and risk taking then Boomers.
As for lead exposure correlating to anti-social behavior, well, the irony is that people were much more outgoing and happy in the 60’s-80’s when pollution levels were much higher. Post-Boomers have a lot of their own mental issues inflicted by coming of age around joyless peers, don’t get me wrong, but clearly Boomers were hurt and even killed by spending too much time outside and being too trusting.
The interesting thing about mass shooters is that they are to Millennials/Gen Z what serial killers were to Silents/Boomers (Gen X doesn’t really fit into either side of the violent psychopath trend. Perhaps extremely maladjusted Millennials/Gen Z would’ve been serial killers in an outgoing climate, but with such difficulty at social interactions as we see in the current era it’s much easier for them to just run amok and attack complete strangers. Also, the sexualized component to serial killing is absent in mass killers, again a reflection of the joyless anhedonia seen in those born after 1980**.
*The 1961-1964 cohort was extremely troubled and also was a really large generation, thus explaining why overall crime peaked in the late 80’s/early 90’s.
**Those born after 1980 are having way less sex than previous generations.
https://www.cnn.com/2004/US/South/03/20/sniper.reward/index.html
Dogs go crazy if they smell blood. I wonder if one of the children had a minor cut or nosebleed or other injury that triggered the attack?