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Being a Los Angeles helicopter pilot traffic reporter, such as Chopper Tim above, is one of the more marginal forms of celebrity, ranking down there with being a 1970s Olympic hero. Perhaps it’s not surprising that veteran L.A. attention-seekers now seem driven to ever more desperate gambits. But this harmonic convergence around the most famous (if least thrilling) car chase of all time is still pretty funny:

Two rival male TV helicopter pilots who covered O.J. Simpson chase now are transgender women

New York Daily News

Once fierce rivals, Dirk Vahle is now Dana Vahle, while Bob Tur * is now Zoey Tur. The two were the first to broadcast above O.J. Simpson’s white Bronco in Los Angeles on June 17, 1994.

O.J.’s white Bronco ride began, of course, at the home of his lawyer, the late Robert Kardashian, the father of Kim Kardashian and ex-husband of Kris Jenner, the now ex-wife of Bruce Jenner.

O.J., whose father was a transvestite, is eligible to get out of the pen in 2017. He’s vowed to the other cons that he will then push Kanye aside and make Kimmie his bride. So we can only hope that this central epic of contemporary pop culture will then come full circle with O.J. transitioning to O.J.J. and gay-marrying Kim Kardashian on national TV.

————

* Tur called himself “Chopper Bob,” but is now Zoey. Whether he/she is Chopped Zoey is not something I really want to know. Tur recently threatened to send pundit Ben Shapiro “home in an ambulance” for pointing out that Jenner hasn’t had a chromosomectomy (which, by the way, isn’t a thing).

 
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  1. Don’t give them any ideas!

  2. Two rival male TV helicopter pilots who covered O.J. Simpson chase now are transgender women

    Two rival male TV helicopter pilots who covered O.J. Simpson chase now are severely mentally ill psychotics who are pretending to be women.

    I needed to clarify that.

  3. A couple years back a senior Chinese government official threatened to nuke Los Angeles if we intervened to prevent Taiwanese reunification with China.

    I think that would have been doing us a HUGE favor.

    • Replies: @fnn
    @Nico

    Think of the non-human wildlife.

    , @Wally
    @Nico

    I agree, and I live in L.A.

  4. But will Dana and Zoey make a lesbian sex tape?

    • Replies: @candid_observer
    @5371

    That does kind of bring up an interesting point.

    How many of these transwomen have any interest in other transwomen? A staple complaint of theirs is that biological women won't treat them like real women -- but, unless they themselves are bigots about what being a "real woman" means, why wouldn't they be as much attracted to each other as to biological women?

    On some level, I'm sure they find each other as disturbing as sexual objects as almost everyone else does.

  5. el topo [AKA "darryl revok"] says:

    Since transsexuals are mostly high-T men and since they seem to be becoming more common in America, I have to ask: what is it about this culture that is causing some of its manly men to go in this direction? (Then again, maybe it’s just biological and only appears to be becoming more common due to media hype. And of course the advance of technology has made “transitioning” easier than ever.)

    • Replies: @Anon
    @el topo

    Maybe it's like the suicide-creates-suicide phenomenon. When suicide is publicized, you get more of it. It's a form of mass psychosis.

    Replies: @fnn

    , @SFG
    @el topo

    Want my theory (and I wish Steve would cover this, because it could be a real problem)?

    Endocrine disruptors. There are byproducts of plastic production that look chemically similar to estrogens.

    We know this is causing changes in frogs and fish, and more and more boys are being born with genital anomalies. If they estrogenize the brain...

    I'm afraid this is one of these weird cases where the left doesn't want to admit transgender is wrong and the right doesn't want to admit industrial pollution is important, so it gets hushed up. But someone needs to speak out about it--whatever the left wants to say, being born with a 'feminized' brain if you are a man leads only to misery either way. It's a medical condition, like diabetes or arthritis, and our bizarre attitudes about it don't make it any less painful.

    If you can use your outlaw-megaphone to start awareness in the general public, this could be a chance to make some real change, and if they, say, ban these chemicals, a lot of kids could be spared some very painful identity problems.

    Replies: @syonredux, @gruff, @Nathan Wartooth

  6. So back in the Fifties we women were told by a smug psychiatric establishment that we unconsciously wished to be boys, and had penis envy, and all this embarrassing stuff. Who were we to argue with authority? It did seem like boys had more fun, sure. But as it turns out, it’s the men who actually wanted to switch, and the establishment was full of fairies of all type.

    Talk about yer projection.

    • Replies: @stillCARealist
    @carol

    carol, do you think it's easier for a man to act like a woman, and get away with it, or for a woman to act like a man?

    I'd say women can be more manly and nobody cares much, but a man being quite effeminate can be disturbing. Even in our enlightened age.

    Man-ness is more prized and precious, and perhaps fragile.

    Keep it safe, guys!

    Replies: @carol, @dcite

    , @Buffalo Joe
    @carol

    Carol, Penis envy ? Don't be envious, most guys will let you have their penis whenever you ask. Try it, you'll be pleasantly surprised.

  7. O.J., whose father was a transvestite…

    Wait… what?!?

    • Replies: @Father O'Hara
    @Gunnar von Cowtown

    Marvin Gaye's dad also liked ladies clothing. I believe he was wearing pantyhose when he shot Marvin. Were they riding up??

  8. @el topo
    Since transsexuals are mostly high-T men and since they seem to be becoming more common in America, I have to ask: what is it about this culture that is causing some of its manly men to go in this direction? (Then again, maybe it's just biological and only appears to be becoming more common due to media hype. And of course the advance of technology has made "transitioning" easier than ever.)

    Replies: @Anon, @SFG

    Maybe it’s like the suicide-creates-suicide phenomenon. When suicide is publicized, you get more of it. It’s a form of mass psychosis.

    • Replies: @fnn
    @Anon

    The entire West is committing suicide and is in the grip of mass psychosis-so maybe this is a just a minor aspect of a much larger phenomenon. I think I'm going to reread Spengler's The Hour of Decision.

  9. @Nico
    A couple years back a senior Chinese government official threatened to nuke Los Angeles if we intervened to prevent Taiwanese reunification with China.

    I think that would have been doing us a HUGE favor.

    Replies: @fnn, @Wally

    Think of the non-human wildlife.

  10. SFG says:
    @el topo
    Since transsexuals are mostly high-T men and since they seem to be becoming more common in America, I have to ask: what is it about this culture that is causing some of its manly men to go in this direction? (Then again, maybe it's just biological and only appears to be becoming more common due to media hype. And of course the advance of technology has made "transitioning" easier than ever.)

    Replies: @Anon, @SFG

    Want my theory (and I wish Steve would cover this, because it could be a real problem)?

    Endocrine disruptors. There are byproducts of plastic production that look chemically similar to estrogens.

    We know this is causing changes in frogs and fish, and more and more boys are being born with genital anomalies. If they estrogenize the brain…

    I’m afraid this is one of these weird cases where the left doesn’t want to admit transgender is wrong and the right doesn’t want to admit industrial pollution is important, so it gets hushed up. But someone needs to speak out about it–whatever the left wants to say, being born with a ‘feminized’ brain if you are a man leads only to misery either way. It’s a medical condition, like diabetes or arthritis, and our bizarre attitudes about it don’t make it any less painful.

    If you can use your outlaw-megaphone to start awareness in the general public, this could be a chance to make some real change, and if they, say, ban these chemicals, a lot of kids could be spared some very painful identity problems.

    • Replies: @syonredux
    @SFG

    For guys like Jenner (and, from what I've seen, Vahle and Tur) it has nothing to do with having a "feminized" brain.It's just autogynephilia. They are sexually aroused by the idea of looking (vaguely) like a woman, and cross-dressing just won't do the trick any longer.

    Replies: @Clyde, @SFG

    , @gruff
    @SFG

    I think a lot of modern problems are being caused by all the weird chemical and radiological stuff we're constantly being exposed to. Cancer being the most obvious. Not to mention the gut flora imbalances.

    A hundred years from now they'll look back at us and shake their heads.

    , @Nathan Wartooth
    @SFG

    This used to be a conspiracy theory, but now it is fact.

    I remember reading some article about how some peer reviewed journal published findings about this. I was pretty shocked because I thought it was BS, but it is not.

  11. So when are they completing the border fence that McCain promised us?

    • Replies: @Harry Baldwin
    @JohnnyWalker123

    McCain has changed his view since his last primary challenge--now only "crazies" want border control. I have enjoyed Trump's eruption of Elderly Tourette's (TM iSteve) on immigration, but I love it even more when he goes after McCain. McCain is a sacred cow among the neocons and he really needs to be taken down a few notches.

    Replies: @Stan D Mute

    , @pyrrhus
    @JohnnyWalker123

    Maybe they'll build a fence in North Vietnam....

    , @Sandy
    @JohnnyWalker123

    Why are you worried about fences?
    they've been digging Tunnels to America since 1979.

  12. @Anon
    @el topo

    Maybe it's like the suicide-creates-suicide phenomenon. When suicide is publicized, you get more of it. It's a form of mass psychosis.

    Replies: @fnn

    The entire West is committing suicide and is in the grip of mass psychosis-so maybe this is a just a minor aspect of a much larger phenomenon. I think I’m going to reread Spengler’s The Hour of Decision.

  13. O.J.J. is beautifully hilarious, but it took me a couple of beats to figure out, because I got stuck on Jimmie Walker. “Mama, I found that bra!”
    [I also got a mini-headrush when I checked the spelling on Jimmy Walker and the first result was the #2 golf pro. Too many full circles. I’m getting dizzy.]

  14. @JohnnyWalker123
    So when are they completing the border fence that McCain promised us?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r0lwusMxiHc

    Replies: @Harry Baldwin, @pyrrhus, @Sandy

    McCain has changed his view since his last primary challenge–now only “crazies” want border control. I have enjoyed Trump’s eruption of Elderly Tourette’s (TM iSteve) on immigration, but I love it even more when he goes after McCain. McCain is a sacred cow among the neocons and he really needs to be taken down a few notches.

    • Replies: @Stan D Mute
    @Harry Baldwin


    McCain is a sacred cow among the neocons and he really needs to be taken down a few notches.
     
    I am not a conspiracy theorist, but if anything could convince me it's McCain. In Arizona, our most reliably anti-illegal immigrant State, how the hell does McCain keep getting sent back to the Senate? Can the voters of Arizona possibly be so stupid as to strongly oppose the Mexican invasion and yet return an invasion enabling traitor to the Senate time and again? Or is this a case of selection by the vote counters rather than election by the voters?

    Replies: @Maj. Kong, @Whiskey

  15. I’m glad Bruce Wayne and Francis Gary Powers never became trannies (or at least not in public!).

    • Replies: @Stan D Mute
    @Veracitor


    I’m glad Bruce Wayne and Francis Gary Powers never became trannies (or at least not in public!).
     
    Don't count them out yet. Heimdall and Nick Fury were Africanized. Now that trannys are the coolest freaks on the tube, Bruce Wayne may well become Brenda Wayne and Francis only needs lose his middle name in the herstory books (ie Wikipedia).

    Replies: @Veracitor

  16. 1/ Of course the real Steve would be trying to figure out a scientific explanation for why this confluence of events is happening in such a small area.

    2/ There have been lots of articles here about how Hispanics are really not having a major influence on culture in SoCal. Well maybe its that they’re a bit more sane than people here are giving them credit for.

    • Replies: @syonredux
    @anony-mouse


    2/ There have been lots of articles here about how Hispanics are really not having a major influence on culture in SoCal. Well maybe its that they’re a bit more sane than people here are giving them credit for.
     
    No, they're just too mediocre to influence anyone...except for people who are already mediocre themselves, like JEB Bush....
    , @Lol
    @anony-mouse

    It's a nice thought anony-mouse....but Hispanics actually encourage this sort of thing.

    My hispanic gfs all vie to be ring girls and big tits and hostesses and bikini models and instagram models...

    Kim K may be genetically Armenian, but she symbolizes Hispanic/Black cultural norms of what is most valued

    If your a high-T competitive male and you see that the Biggest Prizes are now going to half-naked women....

    Then whatja going to do?

    Trust me...if our culture wasn't celebrating naked women and big asses as the Ultimate Accomplishment Jenner would still be a man.

    , @Maj. Kong
    @anony-mouse

    Things you learn here:

    Hispanics commit less crime, and influence the culture less. They practically don't even exist.

    Replies: @Jefferson

    , @anon
    @anony-mouse


    There have been lots of articles here about how Hispanics are really not having a major influence on culture in SoCal.
     
    They're being shut out of the (english-speaking) culture and herded into a spanish-speaking one for divide and rule reasons.
    , @anon
    @anony-mouse

    The regular folk are leaving.

  17. @carol
    So back in the Fifties we women were told by a smug psychiatric establishment that we unconsciously wished to be boys, and had penis envy, and all this embarrassing stuff. Who were we to argue with authority? It did seem like boys had more fun, sure. But as it turns out, it's the men who actually wanted to switch, and the establishment was full of fairies of all type.

    Talk about yer projection.

    Replies: @stillCARealist, @Buffalo Joe

    carol, do you think it’s easier for a man to act like a woman, and get away with it, or for a woman to act like a man?

    I’d say women can be more manly and nobody cares much, but a man being quite effeminate can be disturbing. Even in our enlightened age.

    Man-ness is more prized and precious, and perhaps fragile.

    Keep it safe, guys!

    • Replies: @carol
    @stillCARealist

    Oh yes, I had to leave LA to find men. It was becoming very gay. I sensed a big change there when my best friend said she felt guilty for not being attracted to other women. This was 1974 mind you.

    My parent believed men should be more like women, uh except when you did them to fix your car or pour a concrete walkway cut down a tree or something.

    Anyway, I found Montana chock-a-block with men in the 1970s, though the loss of forestry related jobs has really hurt since those days.

    , @dcite
    @stillCARealist

    "Manliness" is more prized, precious and fragile?
    Which sex is the more natural narcissist I wonder..
    Not that there's anything wrong with that.

  18. Did the choppers chop it off yet?

  19. America wins the Mathematics Olympiad for the first time in 21 years.Odd, I’m not seeing much in the way of Hispanic Mestizo/Amerind representation on the team….

    http://www.npr.org/2015/07/18/424122249/theyre-no-1-u-s-wins-math-olympiad-for-first-time-in-21-years

    • Replies: @Jus' Sayin'...
    @syonredux

    I'm not seeing much non-Jewish White either on the USA's Math Olympiad World Championship Team!

    Replies: @5371, @syonredux, @jon, @Daniel H

    , @Romanian
    @syonredux

    Too much White and Honorary White male privilege in every edition of the competition (there were a few girls, though).

    It would be déclassé to brag, but the first one was held in Romania, and we routinely do pretty well on them in world rankings and the European ones. Sadly, we lose most of the best performers to emigration. There is some comfort in the thought that we're not screwed up enough to not find them in the first place.

    https://www.imo-official.org/country_info.aspx?code=ROU

    https://www.imo-official.org/country_team_r.aspx?code=ROU&column=year&order=desc

    I was pretty good at Math and Physics for HS level, but the competitive scene was ruthless (I was a common prole compared to the others) even in flyover country, where I grew up, and my best skills are in the Jewish Dept (verbal etc). So I picked Mammon, and went for an Economics and International Relations degree, rather than Polytechnic. During the entrance exams, people thought I was failing, because I did the Math and Economics sections in my head. Sadly, most Unis now practice automatic admissions (based on files and prior grades) rather than arranging their own examinations (which yielded a smaller but better crowd). They'd rather keep the number of students high instead of gracefully declining and increasing quality of individual instruction.

    Replies: @Jack D

    , @Jefferson
    @syonredux

    "America wins the Mathematics Olympiad for the first time in 21 years.Odd, I’m not seeing much in the way of Hispanic Mestizo/Amerind representation on the team…."

    Amerindians/Mestizos on average have lower IQ's than Whites and Asians. At the same time they are also less athletic on average than Blacks

    Does not seem like there are any pros in being a Mestizo/Amerindian. There is really nothing exceptional about them. They are the epitome of mediocrity.

    Take the athleticism of the average East Asian and the IQ of the average Black, mix them together and you have a Spanish speaking Amerindian/Mestizo.

    , @Kenny
    @syonredux

    You may want to look at the IMO Gold medalists this year, chump. :)

    See Page 2:

    http://issuu.com/imo2015newsletter/docs/imo_newsletter_issue_7

  20. @anony-mouse
    1/ Of course the real Steve would be trying to figure out a scientific explanation for why this confluence of events is happening in such a small area.

    2/ There have been lots of articles here about how Hispanics are really not having a major influence on culture in SoCal. Well maybe its that they're a bit more sane than people here are giving them credit for.

    Replies: @syonredux, @Lol, @Maj. Kong, @anon, @anon

    2/ There have been lots of articles here about how Hispanics are really not having a major influence on culture in SoCal. Well maybe its that they’re a bit more sane than people here are giving them credit for.

    No, they’re just too mediocre to influence anyone…except for people who are already mediocre themselves, like JEB Bush….

  21. Since yesterday was the anniversary of the Moon Landing:

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @syonredux

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wptn5RE2I-k

    , @Mr. Anon
    @syonredux

    That's one small punch for a man. One giant wallop for an a**hole.

  22. @Veracitor
    I'm glad Bruce Wayne and Francis Gary Powers never became trannies (or at least not in public!).

    Replies: @Stan D Mute

    I’m glad Bruce Wayne and Francis Gary Powers never became trannies (or at least not in public!).

    Don’t count them out yet. Heimdall and Nick Fury were Africanized. Now that trannys are the coolest freaks on the tube, Bruce Wayne may well become Brenda Wayne and Francis only needs lose his middle name in the herstory books (ie Wikipedia).

    • Replies: @Veracitor
    @Stan D Mute

    Your interpretation is funnier than mine, but actually I was referring to the late solo-flying-reporter pilot, KFI's Eye In The Sky, Bruce Wayne. It's an L.A. reference, as with the late flying reporter and erstwhile U-2 spy pilot Francis Gary Powers.

  23. @SFG
    @el topo

    Want my theory (and I wish Steve would cover this, because it could be a real problem)?

    Endocrine disruptors. There are byproducts of plastic production that look chemically similar to estrogens.

    We know this is causing changes in frogs and fish, and more and more boys are being born with genital anomalies. If they estrogenize the brain...

    I'm afraid this is one of these weird cases where the left doesn't want to admit transgender is wrong and the right doesn't want to admit industrial pollution is important, so it gets hushed up. But someone needs to speak out about it--whatever the left wants to say, being born with a 'feminized' brain if you are a man leads only to misery either way. It's a medical condition, like diabetes or arthritis, and our bizarre attitudes about it don't make it any less painful.

    If you can use your outlaw-megaphone to start awareness in the general public, this could be a chance to make some real change, and if they, say, ban these chemicals, a lot of kids could be spared some very painful identity problems.

    Replies: @syonredux, @gruff, @Nathan Wartooth

    For guys like Jenner (and, from what I’ve seen, Vahle and Tur) it has nothing to do with having a “feminized” brain.It’s just autogynephilia. They are sexually aroused by the idea of looking (vaguely) like a woman, and cross-dressing just won’t do the trick any longer.

    • Replies: @Clyde
    @syonredux


    For guys like Jenner (and, from what I’ve seen, Vahle and Tur) it has nothing to do with having a “feminized” brain.It’s just autogynephilia. They are sexually aroused by the idea of looking (vaguely) like a woman, and cross-dressing just won’t do the trick any longer.
     
    Do you think they are having sex with
    a) women?
    b) men?
    c) others like themselves?
    d) none of the above?
    e) robots?

    Replies: @travis, @Mark Minter

    , @SFG
    @syonredux

    Bailey (I think) divided transgenders into late-onsets who are autogynephiliacs, as you say, and early-onsets who are extremely feminine men who feel feminine.

    There are huge numbers of early-onset (teenage) transgenders, and we never saw this before.

    I'm convinced there may be a huge public health problem that's being hushed up for PC reasons.But, if enough Middle Americans get worried about this, it may force the Powers that Be to take action--remember, they did take mercury out of vaccines, even if the evidence for that was rather weak.

    Replies: @Anon, @syonredux, @anon

  24. @Harry Baldwin
    @JohnnyWalker123

    McCain has changed his view since his last primary challenge--now only "crazies" want border control. I have enjoyed Trump's eruption of Elderly Tourette's (TM iSteve) on immigration, but I love it even more when he goes after McCain. McCain is a sacred cow among the neocons and he really needs to be taken down a few notches.

    Replies: @Stan D Mute

    McCain is a sacred cow among the neocons and he really needs to be taken down a few notches.

    I am not a conspiracy theorist, but if anything could convince me it’s McCain. In Arizona, our most reliably anti-illegal immigrant State, how the hell does McCain keep getting sent back to the Senate? Can the voters of Arizona possibly be so stupid as to strongly oppose the Mexican invasion and yet return an invasion enabling traitor to the Senate time and again? Or is this a case of selection by the vote counters rather than election by the voters?

    • Replies: @Maj. Kong
    @Stan D Mute

    McCain's 2010 primary opponent was described as the "dumbest Congressman". The Democrats have never mounted a serious challenge against him. Next year, they are, or perhaps not.

    I do suspect corruption in Nevada election results, particularly regarding Clark County, I don't believe Harry Reid was legitimately elected in 2010.

    , @Whiskey
    @Stan D Mute

    No conspiracy needed, just an appreciation for human dynamics. McCain like all incumbents benefits from slinging the pork around, big time, thus getting big endorsements from various groups, and by name recognition, and by political patronage otherwise known as Machine Politics. This is how Teddy Kennedy held onto his seat, despite plenty of Black/Brown challengers.

    EVENTUALLY incumbents either die in office (Kennedy, Robert Byrd) or get too old and out of touch to maintain the pillars of general pork, political patronage, name recognition, etc. to fend off challengers. This can take decades however.

    McCain was endorsed by all the "leading" Conservative organizations and publications, no surprise as he offers a lot of patronage to both by hiring off the organizations and publications. It takes a huge amount of publicity, money, and long time public exposure (so that incumbents and media allies cannot define challengers as "kooks") to fight machine politics. This is why Trump is so threatening -- his decades in public life have given him sky high name recognition and his character is already well defined. The Media can't suddenly define Trump as a kook when he was just a few years ago part of a jokey Golden Oreos commercial with the Manning Brothers. And had a long run on NBC with his reality show.

    Replies: @Stan D Mute

  25. Ah, Chopper Bob grabs Ben Shapiro by the neck and threatens to send him home in an ambulance because Ben wouldn’t play the preferred pronoun game on TV:

    http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2015/07/ben-shapiro-files-charges-against-trans-reporter-after-she-threatens-to-curb-stomp-him/

  26. Lol says:
    @anony-mouse
    1/ Of course the real Steve would be trying to figure out a scientific explanation for why this confluence of events is happening in such a small area.

    2/ There have been lots of articles here about how Hispanics are really not having a major influence on culture in SoCal. Well maybe its that they're a bit more sane than people here are giving them credit for.

    Replies: @syonredux, @Lol, @Maj. Kong, @anon, @anon

    It’s a nice thought anony-mouse….but Hispanics actually encourage this sort of thing.

    My hispanic gfs all vie to be ring girls and big tits and hostesses and bikini models and instagram models…

    Kim K may be genetically Armenian, but she symbolizes Hispanic/Black cultural norms of what is most valued

    If your a high-T competitive male and you see that the Biggest Prizes are now going to half-naked women….

    Then whatja going to do?

    Trust me…if our culture wasn’t celebrating naked women and big asses as the Ultimate Accomplishment Jenner would still be a man.

  27. @syonredux
    America wins the Mathematics Olympiad for the first time in 21 years.Odd, I'm not seeing much in the way of Hispanic Mestizo/Amerind representation on the team....


    http://www.npr.org/2015/07/18/424122249/theyre-no-1-u-s-wins-math-olympiad-for-first-time-in-21-years

    Replies: @Jus' Sayin'..., @Romanian, @Jefferson, @Kenny

    I’m not seeing much non-Jewish White either on the USA’s Math Olympiad World Championship Team!

    • Replies: @5371
    @Jus' Sayin'...

    Are you sure that David Stoner, Michael Kural and Ryan Alweiss are all Jews?

    Replies: @Shine a Light

    , @syonredux
    @Jus' Sayin'...


    I’m not seeing much non-Jewish White either on the USA’s Math Olympiad World Championship Team!
     
    Well, since I'm half Ashkenazi, I'm half-complimented.

    On the other hand, I'm also not really sure of the background of the team's White members: David Stoner, Michael Kural and Ryan Alweiss.

    Are they Jewish/part Jewish?
    , @jon
    @Jus' Sayin'...


    I’m not seeing much non-Jewish White either on the USA’s Math Olympiad World Championship Team!
     
    Ethnic backgrounds of the six team members, based on the Surnames:
    Narayanan - Indian
    Stoner - English
    Kural - Couldn't find anything, including a search of this Consolidated Jewish Surname Index (http://www.avotaynu.com/csi/csi-home.htm)
    Alweiss - German (so possibly Jewish)
    Lui & Lui - Chinese

    So likely on Jew, two-non Jewish whites, and three Asians. Of course, it could be possible that Alweiss is actually German, or that both Stoner and Kural are part-Jewish from the mother's side.

    Replies: @ben tillman

    , @Daniel H
    @Jus' Sayin'...

    I would say that Stoner and Kural are not Jews. Stoner went to a Christian school and Kural's father studied at Notre Dame. (Google is wonderful). But I could be wrong.

  28. @anony-mouse
    1/ Of course the real Steve would be trying to figure out a scientific explanation for why this confluence of events is happening in such a small area.

    2/ There have been lots of articles here about how Hispanics are really not having a major influence on culture in SoCal. Well maybe its that they're a bit more sane than people here are giving them credit for.

    Replies: @syonredux, @Lol, @Maj. Kong, @anon, @anon

    Things you learn here:

    Hispanics commit less crime, and influence the culture less. They practically don’t even exist.

    • Replies: @Jefferson
    @Maj. Kong

    "Hispanics commit less crime, and influence the culture less. They practically don’t even exist."

    Yeah Hispanics commit very little violent crime in America. The Illegal Immigrant who murdered Kathryn Steinle, his last name is Goldstein right?

    Replies: @ben tillman

  29. @Stan D Mute
    @Harry Baldwin


    McCain is a sacred cow among the neocons and he really needs to be taken down a few notches.
     
    I am not a conspiracy theorist, but if anything could convince me it's McCain. In Arizona, our most reliably anti-illegal immigrant State, how the hell does McCain keep getting sent back to the Senate? Can the voters of Arizona possibly be so stupid as to strongly oppose the Mexican invasion and yet return an invasion enabling traitor to the Senate time and again? Or is this a case of selection by the vote counters rather than election by the voters?

    Replies: @Maj. Kong, @Whiskey

    McCain’s 2010 primary opponent was described as the “dumbest Congressman”. The Democrats have never mounted a serious challenge against him. Next year, they are, or perhaps not.

    I do suspect corruption in Nevada election results, particularly regarding Clark County, I don’t believe Harry Reid was legitimately elected in 2010.

  30. Maybe it was all that LA smog they inhaled up there that made them go trans.

  31. @Jus' Sayin'...
    @syonredux

    I'm not seeing much non-Jewish White either on the USA's Math Olympiad World Championship Team!

    Replies: @5371, @syonredux, @jon, @Daniel H

    Are you sure that David Stoner, Michael Kural and Ryan Alweiss are all Jews?

    • Replies: @Shine a Light
    @5371

    I'm a little bored today so I decided to play, Jew or Not Jew with the help of Google. It is not 100% definitive but I am going with:

    Ryan Alweiss: Full Jew

    Besides being impressively nasally endowed, he looks a lot like his mother. His mother's clinic is within a 4 mile radius of Ryan's school and her husbands clinic. But I do not have 100% proof that these are his parents:


    Gayle Amy Grossman, a medical student at Harvard University, and Dr. Gary Steven Alweiss, a neurologist, were married yesterday at Temple Israel in Great Neck, L.I., by Rabbi Mordechai Waxman.
     
    http://www.nytimes.com/1990/10/15/style/ms-grossman-weds-dr-gary-alweiss.html

    Michael Kural: Half Jew.

    His mother maiden name was Cohen. No evidence his father is Jewish however.

    David Stoner: Not a Jew.

    Not much on his father besides that he works at the Savannah River nuclear site, in any case the father certainly doesn't look Jewish in the one photo I have seen. Mother is a biology / chemistry teacher at an Episcopal School in Aiken South Carolina.

    So 1.5 Gentiles and 1.5 Jews.
  32. Two of them, same job. What are the odds? I mean, it’s not as if their condition is all that common.

    So, maybe there’s some kind of toxin related to their former jobs that results in this? I mean, you have to start looking somewhere.

    Plastics are a big problem and there are, studies show, all kinds of estrogens from bc pills in our water.

    • Replies: @anon
    @e


    Two of them, same job. What are the odds? I mean, it’s not as if their condition is all that common.
     
    But take a step back and consider how unusual the job is and maybe self-selection is the key to that part i.e. it's in the media (just) and it's almost macho when you first think of it but not when you think more.

    So... men who want to be in the media, check one, and men who wanted a job that was basically a kind of air stewardess, check two.

    So imo the connection with the job is *maybe* not so strange.

    #

    Beyond that though the whole thing is so nuts there must be a logical explanation.

    1) The media totally dominates the culture and the media is dominated by racial hatred of white people so maybe this is a side effect of that like tattoos and piercings - flight from white (and male) in the flesh

    alternatively

    2) It's somehow connected to the gay bug theory i.e. there's a bug which effects what people are visually aroused by and it isn't just one cause of homosexuality but causes all kinds of visual paraphilias.

    or a bit of both i.e. paraphilias magnified by the anti-white pressure from the media.
    , @Pure and Easy
    @e

    Perhaps that's a very good point.

    Up until recently you would have thought nearly impossible.

    But if this occurs in a profession which doesn't have a large population pool, then it's either a black swan or trans are more prevalent than assumed.

  33. @Stan D Mute
    @Harry Baldwin


    McCain is a sacred cow among the neocons and he really needs to be taken down a few notches.
     
    I am not a conspiracy theorist, but if anything could convince me it's McCain. In Arizona, our most reliably anti-illegal immigrant State, how the hell does McCain keep getting sent back to the Senate? Can the voters of Arizona possibly be so stupid as to strongly oppose the Mexican invasion and yet return an invasion enabling traitor to the Senate time and again? Or is this a case of selection by the vote counters rather than election by the voters?

    Replies: @Maj. Kong, @Whiskey

    No conspiracy needed, just an appreciation for human dynamics. McCain like all incumbents benefits from slinging the pork around, big time, thus getting big endorsements from various groups, and by name recognition, and by political patronage otherwise known as Machine Politics. This is how Teddy Kennedy held onto his seat, despite plenty of Black/Brown challengers.

    EVENTUALLY incumbents either die in office (Kennedy, Robert Byrd) or get too old and out of touch to maintain the pillars of general pork, political patronage, name recognition, etc. to fend off challengers. This can take decades however.

    McCain was endorsed by all the “leading” Conservative organizations and publications, no surprise as he offers a lot of patronage to both by hiring off the organizations and publications. It takes a huge amount of publicity, money, and long time public exposure (so that incumbents and media allies cannot define challengers as “kooks”) to fight machine politics. This is why Trump is so threatening — his decades in public life have given him sky high name recognition and his character is already well defined. The Media can’t suddenly define Trump as a kook when he was just a few years ago part of a jokey Golden Oreos commercial with the Manning Brothers. And had a long run on NBC with his reality show.

    • Replies: @Stan D Mute
    @Whiskey


    No conspiracy needed, just an appreciation for human dynamics.
     
    Perhaps. But as I wrote, it's difficult to believe AZ voters went to the polls and said, "Aw heck, I don't really care about all that illegal immigration business after all, I'll just go ahead and vote for Johnny MexCan 'cause that Rinse Prickwash fella at the GOP says to vote for him." If voters are that stupid then there's really no hope for a democratic solution is there?

    Won't the same dynamic apply to Trump (or anyone else)? "Aw heck, I sure do like what that Trump fella is saying, but Rinse Prickwash at the GOP says I gotta vote for El Jebe."

    Intellectually I know that candidates are elected by a minority of the eligible voters, that fewer than half those eligible do in fact vote and it takes just 51% of those to elect a Johnny MexCan or El Jebe. Voter apathy (or more likely the sense of vote futility) is the problem. That still makes it no easier to swallow the idea that a State consistently over 70% anti-invasion could return a pro-invasion traitor to the Senate.

    Replies: @Whiskey

  34. I’ve known helicopter and fighter pilots, and the helicopter pilots were all dumber, more obnoxious, and less disciplined versions of the fighter pilots.

    • Replies: @Former Darfur
    @Anonymous

    Having a lot of fixed wing time but having abandoned the idea of helicopter flying early on in the attempt, I've noticed helo pilots, generally, build muscles, and can fight pretty well. The constant manipulation of cyclic, collective and rudder builds up the muscles, I guess. Helicopters are inherently unstable and the uncoordinated or lazy give up early, too.

    The other thing is that fixed wing aircraft usually kill you because you did something stupid. It's unheard of-almost-for something to happen at thirty thousand feet (outside of combat) that you know is going to kill you and will give you a long time to think about it on the way down. Helicopters do this in a good percentage of helo crashes (although being low altitude machines the time factor is less): it chucks some part or something breaks (i.e. the so called Jesus bolt) and 1) you did nothing wrong, 2) you can do nothing about it and 3) you know full well the whole way down you are going to die.

    In military jets you can eject. In rotary wing you don't even have a parachute because in an uncontrolled helo you couldn't bail out without getting chopped to bits by the rotor.

    This weighs on the helo guys a lot and makes them pretty fatalistic.

    Replies: @The Man From K Street, @Kevin O'Keeffe, @Jack D

  35. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    Nerdy white American men almost exclusively marry Asian women now

    So I don’t expect to see any white men on Math Olympiads anymore either

    That doesn’t mean anything though, since the truly smart (and white) kids are busy fulfilling their college math requirements for engineering by the 10th grade and thus don’t have time for Math Olympiad.

    I never had time for something as stupid as Math Olympiad…too busy with my college Vector Calc class in the 9th grade.

    🙂

    • Replies: @bigred2000
    @Anonymous

    I probably could have kicked butt in a "math Olympiad". Instead I did things like playing sports. Because sports get you exercise and can get you girls. What does math Olympiad get you?

    Replies: @rod1963, @Romanian, @Jus' Sayin'..., @jimbojones

  36. @syonredux
    Since yesterday was the anniversary of the Moon Landing:


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wptn5RE2I-k

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Mr. Anon

  37. @Nico
    A couple years back a senior Chinese government official threatened to nuke Los Angeles if we intervened to prevent Taiwanese reunification with China.

    I think that would have been doing us a HUGE favor.

    Replies: @fnn, @Wally

    I agree, and I live in L.A.

  38. @JohnnyWalker123
    So when are they completing the border fence that McCain promised us?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r0lwusMxiHc

    Replies: @Harry Baldwin, @pyrrhus, @Sandy

    Maybe they’ll build a fence in North Vietnam….

  39. @anony-mouse
    1/ Of course the real Steve would be trying to figure out a scientific explanation for why this confluence of events is happening in such a small area.

    2/ There have been lots of articles here about how Hispanics are really not having a major influence on culture in SoCal. Well maybe its that they're a bit more sane than people here are giving them credit for.

    Replies: @syonredux, @Lol, @Maj. Kong, @anon, @anon

    There have been lots of articles here about how Hispanics are really not having a major influence on culture in SoCal.

    They’re being shut out of the (english-speaking) culture and herded into a spanish-speaking one for divide and rule reasons.

  40. anon • Disclaimer says:
    @e
    Two of them, same job. What are the odds? I mean, it's not as if their condition is all that common.

    So, maybe there's some kind of toxin related to their former jobs that results in this? I mean, you have to start looking somewhere.

    Plastics are a big problem and there are, studies show, all kinds of estrogens from bc pills in our water.

    Replies: @anon, @Pure and Easy

    Two of them, same job. What are the odds? I mean, it’s not as if their condition is all that common.

    But take a step back and consider how unusual the job is and maybe self-selection is the key to that part i.e. it’s in the media (just) and it’s almost macho when you first think of it but not when you think more.

    So… men who want to be in the media, check one, and men who wanted a job that was basically a kind of air stewardess, check two.

    So imo the connection with the job is *maybe* not so strange.

    #

    Beyond that though the whole thing is so nuts there must be a logical explanation.

    1) The media totally dominates the culture and the media is dominated by racial hatred of white people so maybe this is a side effect of that like tattoos and piercings – flight from white (and male) in the flesh

    alternatively

    2) It’s somehow connected to the gay bug theory i.e. there’s a bug which effects what people are visually aroused by and it isn’t just one cause of homosexuality but causes all kinds of visual paraphilias.

    or a bit of both i.e. paraphilias magnified by the anti-white pressure from the media.

  41. anon • Disclaimer says:

    o/t but according to various newspaper reports the HUD’s criterion for flooding schools with inner city street gangs and allowing them to attack the other kids at will (by banning discipline) is going to be towns that are more than 50% white.

    so if Asians don’t want their kids to be victims of the great pogrom they need to segregate rapidly into 50%+ Asian neighborhoods.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @anon

    They're working on that in San Marino and Arcadia.

    Replies: @Anon

    , @Hacienda
    @anon

    Making a stand, Steve.
    I encourage whites to do the same. Many California whites try to do friendly, but come across as slimy.
    Friendship requires at least one partner to be strong.

    Replies: @anon

  42. Anon • Disclaimer says:

    Africa invades Europe, and European cinema sympathizes.

    http://www.slantmagazine.com/film/review/samba

    “it also explores the politics of identity”

    Yeah, he’s a black guy invading Europe because his kind has ruined black Africa that obviously can’t be run by people like him.

    ‘Politics of identity’, how precious.

    “his buoyant personality”

    Blacks are often loud, aggressive, uninhibited, and obnoxious. The PC term for this is now ‘buoyant’? If Liberals love black buoyancy, why do urban gentry use Section 8 programs to send blacks out to the suburbs or small towns? It seems to be big cities have gotten safer over the yrs because Liberal policies under Clinton and Bloomberg have locked up more buoyant blacks or sent them packing to other parts of the nation.

    Blacks are not only ‘vibrant’ but ‘buoyant’. How come they sink at sea, then?

    “finds herself drawn to Samba not so much physically as emotionally”

    Right, THAT is why white women generally hook up with blacks. EMOTIONAL support. LOL. Funny, but if you look at stats, more black men are likely to dump their ‘ho’, white or black, and run off with others.

    If this black guy is so emotionally rich, why not stay in his country, try to improve it, and share his love with a black woman? He takes off to a rich white country and goes after white meat.

    “The film seeks to remind us that even when life is difficult there can be a respite, if not the first steps toward a remedy, in positivity.”

    Is this a film review or some flaky new age ‘self help’ book?

    “inane bureaucracy foiling hopeful immigrants”

    What an idiot. European birthrates are in the tank, black Africa now has over a billion people and will have 5 billion by end of the century. If current waves of invasion continue, Europe will vanish as a race and culture.

    Yet, the idiot who wrote this review boo-hoos about ‘inane bureaucracy’ and ‘hopeful immigrants’.

    In truth, EU bureaucracy hasn’t done anything to stop this massive invasion of low-IQ immigrants who pose a danger to Europe because blacks are physically stronger and more aggressive than whites. Just look at crime stats in the US and in the EU.

    And what is this ‘hopeful immigrant’ crap? I wonder… if 50 million Chinese try to emigrate to Japan, thus destroying the demographic and cultural integrity of Japan, should Japan welcome the invaders as ‘hopeful immigrants’?

    If 100 million Asian Indians try to cross over into Iran, thereby upsetting the demographic balance and cultural identity of Iranians, should Iranians welcome the invasion as ‘hopeful immigration’?

    Is this reviewer living in a world of reality or is he spouting all the PC cliches to score status points among this urban gentry peers? I saith unto him, If you love diversity and blacks so much, why don’t you move to Detroit, Jamaica, Haiti, or some nation in Africa?
    Why do you stick around a nice city that uses stop and frisk and section 8 programs to drive blacks out, often with the help of homosexuals?

    “It would serve as a sick joke against the immigration system, that it ultimately transforms even the most sympathetic person into a scam artist, if the film didn’t view this conclusion with such an oddly joyful air.”

    Naturally, one lie leads to another lie. It is like watergate. Trying to hide one lie with another lie spawns more lies.

    The truth is this. This character is an illegal invader who came to France. He needs to be deported. He is not some ‘hopeful immigrant’ but an illegal alien, an invader. Don’t give me this PC crap. If a million Chinese cross over into Vietnam, they are no ‘hopeful immigrants’. They are invaders.
    If a million Russians cross into Poland, they are invaders, not ‘hopeful immigrants’.

    Also, most of these invaders are African males. They are not ‘buoyant’ but loud, abrasive, deceitful, and aggressive. They messed up their own nation because too many of such people are not good for society. They are out to prey on Europe and take white women because they (correctly) surmise that white males are now a bunch of castrated dorks who worship homosexuals and act like them too.
    But PC taught blacks to blame it all on ‘white folks’, and of course, the likes of Nick Prigg have been programmed to pat themselves on the back and see themselves as morally superior to other whites because they are so ‘tolerant’.

    But in truth, the invasion is getting worse and NO nation can survive racially or culturally under such an massive onslaught.
    A movie likes this shows us the ‘human’ side of the tale, but any invasion on this scale is an inhuman attack on a nation’s right to exist.

    If a million whites headed illegally to invade a black or asian country, people would call it imperialism. But when non-whites invade white lands, we are to see it as ‘hopeful immigration’? How about Prigg pulling his head out of his ass?

    Pathetic.

    • Replies: @Romanian
    @Anon

    You win the thread!

    Replies: @Anonymous

  43. QUESTION????

    Has there been documented cases of an early stage autogynephiliacs who have been successfully treated with the goal of restoring a hetero-normative psychology and retaining a cis-gender phenotype???

    I just wonder if there are examples of somebody who says “You know after decades of living as a successful, more than adequately if not over sexed heterosexual male, I started having this mania that was leading me towards a “trans” future. Thank God I found a competent psychiatrist who accurately diagnosed my condition and restored me to a hetero normal identity.”

    Because it would put a lie to the line “I suffered all my life in secret, because I always identified as a woman and now I am the woman I always knew I was inside and that nature and society conspired against me being”

    • Replies: @Perspective
    @anonymous-antimarxist

    Scientists have managed to reorient gay male sheep to straight sheep. Even with sheep there was a strong uproar from the usual crowd:

    "Whatever happens in 2007, we already have the most surreal headline of the year: "Sheep have right to be gay, says Martina Navratilova". But behind this headline and buried beneath the battery of baa-aad jokes it seems to beckon, there is a strange and serious story that will ripple out through the 21st century in ways we cannot predict.

    "That's why the experimenters began to try to something new: making the gay sheep straight. They altered the hormonal levels in their brains and monitored their behaviour. And the result? Many of the gay rams decided a bit of ewe wasn't so bad after all. They began to have heterosexual sex."

    http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/commentators/johann-hari/johann-hari-the-intriguing-tale-of-the-gay-sheep-430683.html

    Replies: @anonymous-antimarxist, @e, @anon

  44. @Anonymous
    Nerdy white American men almost exclusively marry Asian women now

    So I don't expect to see any white men on Math Olympiads anymore either

    That doesn't mean anything though, since the truly smart (and white) kids are busy fulfilling their college math requirements for engineering by the 10th grade and thus don't have time for Math Olympiad.

    I never had time for something as stupid as Math Olympiad...too busy with my college Vector Calc class in the 9th grade.

    :)

    Replies: @bigred2000

    I probably could have kicked butt in a “math Olympiad”. Instead I did things like playing sports. Because sports get you exercise and can get you girls. What does math Olympiad get you?

    • Replies: @rod1963
    @bigred2000

    A math Olympian gets a date with his right hand.

    I remember taking a seminar on writing Windows Device Drivers. I thought I walked into a room full of autistic males. None of them would make eye contact or hold a conversation, it was creepy. I didn't understand at first since I came from a IT/Help Desk background where interacting with all sorts of people was a everyday thing. These guys were quite smart but were absolutely stunted as human beings.

    Talk about selecting yourself out of the gene pool that's a sure way.

    If white nerds want to get the girl they need to act like guys instead of pathetic wimps. Get out, play some contact sports, lift weights, play outside to get rid of the funeral parlor look many nerds have. Do a bit of travel, etc.

    Become a well rounded person that can converse with others on topics that don't involve computers and video games.

    , @Romanian
    @bigred2000

    Smart people get plenty of quality poon where I'm from (so long as they're not deep in the autism spectrum), and it starts reasonably early too. The developing society vibe must be shifting girls' standards towards predictors of success, not just dominance. Also, school sports is not a thing here. I've noticed two things though - 1. cerebral types bloom late and are not generally up to playing the dating game until late adolescence (and may need guidance because of a lack of natural manly graces - nothing a good buddy won't fix, or an insistent girlfriend); 2. many women have a threshold for intelligence seen as sexy, with diminishing marginal returns - they won't really distinguish between an also-ran and a gold medalist at the IMO.

    , @Jus' Sayin'...
    @bigred2000

    Okay, Sherlock. Go for it. This is one of the elimination round questions: "xi is an infinite sequence of positive reals such that for all n, x1 + x2 + ... + xn ≥ square root of n. Show that x12 + x22 + ... + xn2 > (1 + 1/2 + 1/3 + ... + 1/n) / 4 for all n. " Can you answer it without cheating?

    , @jimbojones
    @bigred2000

    I knew a guy who won (a gold or whatever medal in) the IMO (International Math Olympiad). He had a very domineering mother. After his victory he participated in a TV show called "The Beauty and the Geek." He was the geek. The experience left him scarred for life and put him in overcompensation mode with an overdrive. He became an obsessive-compulsive body-builder. A year or two later he looked like a (statue of a) Greek god...

  45. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    I have another theory about “Caitlyn” Jenner and her remarkable transubstantiation as a “woman” at age 66. Most men I know older than 55 have problems with prostate enlargement. The standard medical treatment is Finasteride (or an equivalent), which slowly feminizes men. Most start growing breasts, which range from breast buds to something a teenage girl would envy. If you doubt, take the standard philosophical maxim regarding truth … “look and see”, paying careful attention to men in polo shirts or the more adventurous who will shed their shirts at the beach or the swimming pool.

    This is a tradeoff. A friend of mine with prostate problems noticed he was growing breasts. He stopped his treatments. He was later diagnosed with prostate cancer. In prior eras, men with enlarged prostates eventually died from uric poisoning if cancer did not get them first. Again, feminization of aging males to extend life is a tradeoff.

    Add this to the virtual sea of estrogenic compounds found in pesticides, plastics, and the female hormones used to tenderize meat and the male of the species in Western industrial culture is being slowly “trannied” and feminized … or whatever you want to call it … from the womb.

    This is not unique to men. After a bout with breast cancer (perhaps caused by the sea of estrogenic compounds in our environment … nothing else tracks), my wife has been put on a regime of “anti-estrogen” medication. Yes, it is changing her personality. She is more aggressive and makes furtive attempts at being in control and being rational, dispositions she had never expressed before. As other evidence of estrogen poisoning in our environment, we have only to look at the ages in which young girls start their periods today and become susceptible to impregnation … as early as 8 years old.

    The root causes of all of this? Industrial pollution and a predatory capitalism that seeks to maximize profits regardless of the consequences.

    Caitlyn, enjoy your new life. You will soon have lots of company.

    • Replies: @anonymous-antimarxist
    @Anonymous

    Nice theory about autogyneaphillia and environmental or infectious factors/causation.

    But it looks like it has been around for a long time.

    The Late Roman Republic Consul/Dictator and all around alpha dog bad ass Sulla sounded like the classic autogyny crossdressing tyrant .

    Plutarch described Sulla as a fond of cross dressing, beautiful women and transvestite actors.

    https://writingandhistory.wordpress.com/2015/03/31/marius-sulla-and-the-fall-of-the-roman-republic/

    Replies: @e

    , @Reg Cæsar
    @Anonymous

    Then there is the claim that oral contraceptives end up in the rivers and are messing up fish in the same way.

  46. @Jus' Sayin'...
    @syonredux

    I'm not seeing much non-Jewish White either on the USA's Math Olympiad World Championship Team!

    Replies: @5371, @syonredux, @jon, @Daniel H

    I’m not seeing much non-Jewish White either on the USA’s Math Olympiad World Championship Team!

    Well, since I’m half Ashkenazi, I’m half-complimented.

    On the other hand, I’m also not really sure of the background of the team’s White members: David Stoner, Michael Kural and Ryan Alweiss.

    Are they Jewish/part Jewish?

  47. @anon
    o/t but according to various newspaper reports the HUD's criterion for flooding schools with inner city street gangs and allowing them to attack the other kids at will (by banning discipline) is going to be towns that are more than 50% white.

    so if Asians don't want their kids to be victims of the great pogrom they need to segregate rapidly into 50%+ Asian neighborhoods.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Hacienda

    They’re working on that in San Marino and Arcadia.

    • Replies: @Anon
    @Steve Sailer

    Plano, TX too.

    http://www.schooldigger.com/go/TX/schools/3510007223/school.aspx

    Click on students.

  48. The vocation of traffic helicopter paparazzo is already a kind of outlandish, inane job… So maybe getting struck by the stray gnostic suggestion of belonging to the transformer elite appealed them. It’s like the ultimate rush.

    ESPN 30 for 30 did a stream-of-consciousness documentary entitled “June 17th, 1994” which assembled the various TV feeds from that day, including the off-air bits of blow-dry news personalities screaming abuse at each other. During the ending montage they used a live version of the Talking Heads’ “Heaven” to great effect, while showing the surrender in Brentwood & the multiple media streams blending incoherently

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @point break

    I missed the White Bronco Chase on TV: I was in Waterloo, Belgium on a business trip (oddly enough, on the anniversary of the Battle of ...). I read about it, agog, in the Financial Times while flying to Heathrow. I was an OJ fan so I sure hoped he didn't do it ... but it was kind of hard to come up with a rationalization of his heading for the border. Funny how the crack L.A. district attorneys never brought up his run for the border during the trial.

    , @Tacitus2016
    @point break

    "It’s like the ultimate rush". Very good point. There's a charge there no doubt for the transformer. All those thoughts about women throughout the years, now you are one(at least in your own mind). The breaking of taboos.

    One thing about Jenner. How many daughters does he have? Maybe they came late in his life when he was already transfixed on the idea of being a woman. Having daughters certainly demystifies the female of the species(as does having a girlfriend or a wife).

    You'd have to be an arrogant prick to do that to your family. Really are you that important compared to your kids?

    Replies: @slumber_j

  49. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    I think D.L. Hughley is the latest to frag himself on the Holy Caitlyn Landmine Zone. Amazingly this operation is still swift after so many weeks out from launch — the Pentagon better be studying this, with a Special Transcadet Unit… We’re ready to eat our own guts and ask for seconds

  50. The Uebermensch has finally arrived, though with more eyeliner than we expected

  51. @anon
    o/t but according to various newspaper reports the HUD's criterion for flooding schools with inner city street gangs and allowing them to attack the other kids at will (by banning discipline) is going to be towns that are more than 50% white.

    so if Asians don't want their kids to be victims of the great pogrom they need to segregate rapidly into 50%+ Asian neighborhoods.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Hacienda

    Making a stand, Steve.
    I encourage whites to do the same. Many California whites try to do friendly, but come across as slimy.
    Friendship requires at least one partner to be strong.

    • Replies: @anon
    @Hacienda


    Making a stand, Steve.
     
    Well technically it would be more side-stepping than making a stand - not that I'm criticizing, the lunatics have taken over the asylum and obviously no-one wants to risk their kid getting stabbed at school if they have a choice.
  52. @5371
    But will Dana and Zoey make a lesbian sex tape?

    Replies: @candid_observer

    That does kind of bring up an interesting point.

    How many of these transwomen have any interest in other transwomen? A staple complaint of theirs is that biological women won’t treat them like real women — but, unless they themselves are bigots about what being a “real woman” means, why wouldn’t they be as much attracted to each other as to biological women?

    On some level, I’m sure they find each other as disturbing as sexual objects as almost everyone else does.

  53. @point break
    The vocation of traffic helicopter paparazzo is already a kind of outlandish, inane job... So maybe getting struck by the stray gnostic suggestion of belonging to the transformer elite appealed them. It's like the ultimate rush.

    ESPN 30 for 30 did a stream-of-consciousness documentary entitled "June 17th, 1994" which assembled the various TV feeds from that day, including the off-air bits of blow-dry news personalities screaming abuse at each other. During the ending montage they used a live version of the Talking Heads' "Heaven" to great effect, while showing the surrender in Brentwood & the multiple media streams blending incoherently

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Tacitus2016

    I missed the White Bronco Chase on TV: I was in Waterloo, Belgium on a business trip (oddly enough, on the anniversary of the Battle of …). I read about it, agog, in the Financial Times while flying to Heathrow. I was an OJ fan so I sure hoped he didn’t do it … but it was kind of hard to come up with a rationalization of his heading for the border. Funny how the crack L.A. district attorneys never brought up his run for the border during the trial.

  54. @Anonymous
    I've known helicopter and fighter pilots, and the helicopter pilots were all dumber, more obnoxious, and less disciplined versions of the fighter pilots.

    Replies: @Former Darfur

    Having a lot of fixed wing time but having abandoned the idea of helicopter flying early on in the attempt, I’ve noticed helo pilots, generally, build muscles, and can fight pretty well. The constant manipulation of cyclic, collective and rudder builds up the muscles, I guess. Helicopters are inherently unstable and the uncoordinated or lazy give up early, too.

    The other thing is that fixed wing aircraft usually kill you because you did something stupid. It’s unheard of-almost-for something to happen at thirty thousand feet (outside of combat) that you know is going to kill you and will give you a long time to think about it on the way down. Helicopters do this in a good percentage of helo crashes (although being low altitude machines the time factor is less): it chucks some part or something breaks (i.e. the so called Jesus bolt) and 1) you did nothing wrong, 2) you can do nothing about it and 3) you know full well the whole way down you are going to die.

    In military jets you can eject. In rotary wing you don’t even have a parachute because in an uncontrolled helo you couldn’t bail out without getting chopped to bits by the rotor.

    This weighs on the helo guys a lot and makes them pretty fatalistic.

    • Replies: @The Man From K Street
    @Former Darfur

    Re: chopper pilots' being more fatalistic/less disciplined than fixed-wing jocks:

    Pope Emeritus Benedict XVI was/is a licensed helicopter pilot (the age limit was waived in his case) who would often fly the Vatican whirlybird himself to Castel Gandolfo and back. Not saying it means anything, just throwing it out there as a data point/anecdote.

    Replies: @SFG

    , @Kevin O'Keeffe
    @Former Darfur

    "In military jets you can eject. In rotary wing you don’t even have a parachute because in an uncontrolled helo you couldn’t bail out without getting chopped to bits by the rotor.

    This weighs on the helo guys a lot and makes them pretty fatalistic."

    It seems to this layman, that some sort of lateral ejection system, could be developed for helicopter pilots.

    Replies: @Truth, @Anonymous

    , @Jack D
    @Former Darfur

    This is a really strange reason for rationalizing a career choice. Yes, in the unlikely event that a Jesus bolt breaks in a helicopter, you are going to have a few quick minutes to contemplate your demise, but so what? Lots of people have internal "Jesus bolts" that fail and they have anywhere from minutes to years to contemplate their inevitable demise. If you are flying a twin engine aircraft and one engine goes, you have a pretty good chance of botching the recovery procedure ("the second engine takes you to the scene of the crash"). In fact, most fixed wing crashes are due to pilot error, because pilots are human and humans make errors. Yes, it will be your own damn fault but how is that supposed to comfort you? Because it gives you some illusion of control? "I won't be the one to f*ck up. I'm too good and smart for that." Dream on - it happens to the best. Even Sully was damn lucky. In the end, we all die of something. I know some helo pilots and they are no more or less fatalistic than anyone else.

    Replies: @Former Darfur

  55. What’s the significance of the second J in O.J.J.? Jenner-bender?

  56. @Truth
    Uh Oh, Part XXXXIV!

    "Make way, white man!"

    http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/13293099/becky-hammon-san-antonio-spurs-win-las-vegas-summer-league-championship

    Replies: @josh

    fascinating.

  57. @bigred2000
    @Anonymous

    I probably could have kicked butt in a "math Olympiad". Instead I did things like playing sports. Because sports get you exercise and can get you girls. What does math Olympiad get you?

    Replies: @rod1963, @Romanian, @Jus' Sayin'..., @jimbojones

    A math Olympian gets a date with his right hand.

    I remember taking a seminar on writing Windows Device Drivers. I thought I walked into a room full of autistic males. None of them would make eye contact or hold a conversation, it was creepy. I didn’t understand at first since I came from a IT/Help Desk background where interacting with all sorts of people was a everyday thing. These guys were quite smart but were absolutely stunted as human beings.

    Talk about selecting yourself out of the gene pool that’s a sure way.

    If white nerds want to get the girl they need to act like guys instead of pathetic wimps. Get out, play some contact sports, lift weights, play outside to get rid of the funeral parlor look many nerds have. Do a bit of travel, etc.

    Become a well rounded person that can converse with others on topics that don’t involve computers and video games.

  58. There’s even a Donald Trump/immigration tie-in.

    Bob Tur’s daughter, Katy Tur interviewed Trump a couple of weeks ago.

    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2015/07/08/trump_on_illegal_immigrants_if_hillary_is_elected_we_will_have_a_crime_wave_like_youve_never_seen.html

  59. Does ISIS take requests?

  60. @Former Darfur
    @Anonymous

    Having a lot of fixed wing time but having abandoned the idea of helicopter flying early on in the attempt, I've noticed helo pilots, generally, build muscles, and can fight pretty well. The constant manipulation of cyclic, collective and rudder builds up the muscles, I guess. Helicopters are inherently unstable and the uncoordinated or lazy give up early, too.

    The other thing is that fixed wing aircraft usually kill you because you did something stupid. It's unheard of-almost-for something to happen at thirty thousand feet (outside of combat) that you know is going to kill you and will give you a long time to think about it on the way down. Helicopters do this in a good percentage of helo crashes (although being low altitude machines the time factor is less): it chucks some part or something breaks (i.e. the so called Jesus bolt) and 1) you did nothing wrong, 2) you can do nothing about it and 3) you know full well the whole way down you are going to die.

    In military jets you can eject. In rotary wing you don't even have a parachute because in an uncontrolled helo you couldn't bail out without getting chopped to bits by the rotor.

    This weighs on the helo guys a lot and makes them pretty fatalistic.

    Replies: @The Man From K Street, @Kevin O'Keeffe, @Jack D

    Re: chopper pilots’ being more fatalistic/less disciplined than fixed-wing jocks:

    Pope Emeritus Benedict XVI was/is a licensed helicopter pilot (the age limit was waived in his case) who would often fly the Vatican whirlybird himself to Castel Gandolfo and back. Not saying it means anything, just throwing it out there as a data point/anecdote.

    • Replies: @SFG
    @The Man From K Street

    Hey, it's a cool one. With all the jokes about the Popemobile, I like the idea of a Popecopter. ;)

  61. @stillCARealist
    @carol

    carol, do you think it's easier for a man to act like a woman, and get away with it, or for a woman to act like a man?

    I'd say women can be more manly and nobody cares much, but a man being quite effeminate can be disturbing. Even in our enlightened age.

    Man-ness is more prized and precious, and perhaps fragile.

    Keep it safe, guys!

    Replies: @carol, @dcite

    Oh yes, I had to leave LA to find men. It was becoming very gay. I sensed a big change there when my best friend said she felt guilty for not being attracted to other women. This was 1974 mind you.

    My parent believed men should be more like women, uh except when you did them to fix your car or pour a concrete walkway cut down a tree or something.

    Anyway, I found Montana chock-a-block with men in the 1970s, though the loss of forestry related jobs has really hurt since those days.

  62. Totally OT, now that there are 16 Republicans vying for the presidential nomination a real debate tournament can be set up. What makes one a winner would need to be defined.

  63. Between the video Sailer posted of the British tranny threatening the West Indian guy and the image of aggro newscopter flygals with rippling biceps I think I’m gonna have some strange nightmares this week

  64. @point break
    The vocation of traffic helicopter paparazzo is already a kind of outlandish, inane job... So maybe getting struck by the stray gnostic suggestion of belonging to the transformer elite appealed them. It's like the ultimate rush.

    ESPN 30 for 30 did a stream-of-consciousness documentary entitled "June 17th, 1994" which assembled the various TV feeds from that day, including the off-air bits of blow-dry news personalities screaming abuse at each other. During the ending montage they used a live version of the Talking Heads' "Heaven" to great effect, while showing the surrender in Brentwood & the multiple media streams blending incoherently

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Tacitus2016

    “It’s like the ultimate rush”. Very good point. There’s a charge there no doubt for the transformer. All those thoughts about women throughout the years, now you are one(at least in your own mind). The breaking of taboos.

    One thing about Jenner. How many daughters does he have? Maybe they came late in his life when he was already transfixed on the idea of being a woman. Having daughters certainly demystifies the female of the species(as does having a girlfriend or a wife).

    You’d have to be an arrogant prick to do that to your family. Really are you that important compared to your kids?

    • Replies: @slumber_j
    @Tacitus2016


    You’d have to be an arrogant prick to do that to your family. Really are you that important compared to your kids?
     
    I'm very much with you there. My wife has one of these guys in her extended family--Uncle (by marriage) Bill, who's now a so-called aunt, having undertaken the Full Thai-surgical Monty some years ago. His poor daughter, the only known issue, is a sweetheart who's since had a big neurotic meltdown with the panic attacks and all. She's the victim, and it was all entirely avoidable.

    Interestingly, my wife's aunt--her father's sister--has remained steadfast after a rocky period in their relationship. Indeed she seems to have harnessed the whole business for a sort of SJW posturing binge, writing about the wonders of Bill's transformation in the class notes for the bulletin of her fancy Boston girls' school. It takes all kinds, I'm told.
  65. @carol
    So back in the Fifties we women were told by a smug psychiatric establishment that we unconsciously wished to be boys, and had penis envy, and all this embarrassing stuff. Who were we to argue with authority? It did seem like boys had more fun, sure. But as it turns out, it's the men who actually wanted to switch, and the establishment was full of fairies of all type.

    Talk about yer projection.

    Replies: @stillCARealist, @Buffalo Joe

    Carol, Penis envy ? Don’t be envious, most guys will let you have their penis whenever you ask. Try it, you’ll be pleasantly surprised.

  66. @Anonymous
    I have another theory about "Caitlyn" Jenner and her remarkable transubstantiation as a "woman" at age 66. Most men I know older than 55 have problems with prostate enlargement. The standard medical treatment is Finasteride (or an equivalent), which slowly feminizes men. Most start growing breasts, which range from breast buds to something a teenage girl would envy. If you doubt, take the standard philosophical maxim regarding truth ... "look and see", paying careful attention to men in polo shirts or the more adventurous who will shed their shirts at the beach or the swimming pool.

    This is a tradeoff. A friend of mine with prostate problems noticed he was growing breasts. He stopped his treatments. He was later diagnosed with prostate cancer. In prior eras, men with enlarged prostates eventually died from uric poisoning if cancer did not get them first. Again, feminization of aging males to extend life is a tradeoff.

    Add this to the virtual sea of estrogenic compounds found in pesticides, plastics, and the female hormones used to tenderize meat and the male of the species in Western industrial culture is being slowly "trannied" and feminized ... or whatever you want to call it ... from the womb.

    This is not unique to men. After a bout with breast cancer (perhaps caused by the sea of estrogenic compounds in our environment ... nothing else tracks), my wife has been put on a regime of "anti-estrogen" medication. Yes, it is changing her personality. She is more aggressive and makes furtive attempts at being in control and being rational, dispositions she had never expressed before. As other evidence of estrogen poisoning in our environment, we have only to look at the ages in which young girls start their periods today and become susceptible to impregnation ... as early as 8 years old.

    The root causes of all of this? Industrial pollution and a predatory capitalism that seeks to maximize profits regardless of the consequences.

    Caitlyn, enjoy your new life. You will soon have lots of company.

    Replies: @anonymous-antimarxist, @Reg Cæsar

    Nice theory about autogyneaphillia and environmental or infectious factors/causation.

    But it looks like it has been around for a long time.

    The Late Roman Republic Consul/Dictator and all around alpha dog bad ass Sulla sounded like the classic autogyny crossdressing tyrant .

    Plutarch described Sulla as a fond of cross dressing, beautiful women and transvestite actors.

    https://writingandhistory.wordpress.com/2015/03/31/marius-sulla-and-the-fall-of-the-roman-republic/

    • Replies: @e
    @anonymous-antimarxist

    That it's been around a long time (just like homosexuality) doesn't discount autogynephilia or infectious causation. You do know bugs have been with us forever, right, and they out evolve us easily? And paraphilias? Why would you think they'd have to be new?

    Replies: @anonymous-antimarxist

  67. @syonredux
    America wins the Mathematics Olympiad for the first time in 21 years.Odd, I'm not seeing much in the way of Hispanic Mestizo/Amerind representation on the team....


    http://www.npr.org/2015/07/18/424122249/theyre-no-1-u-s-wins-math-olympiad-for-first-time-in-21-years

    Replies: @Jus' Sayin'..., @Romanian, @Jefferson, @Kenny

    Too much White and Honorary White male privilege in every edition of the competition (there were a few girls, though).

    It would be déclassé to brag, but the first one was held in Romania, and we routinely do pretty well on them in world rankings and the European ones. Sadly, we lose most of the best performers to emigration. There is some comfort in the thought that we’re not screwed up enough to not find them in the first place.

    https://www.imo-official.org/country_info.aspx?code=ROU

    https://www.imo-official.org/country_team_r.aspx?code=ROU&column=year&order=desc

    I was pretty good at Math and Physics for HS level, but the competitive scene was ruthless (I was a common prole compared to the others) even in flyover country, where I grew up, and my best skills are in the Jewish Dept (verbal etc). So I picked Mammon, and went for an Economics and International Relations degree, rather than Polytechnic. During the entrance exams, people thought I was failing, because I did the Math and Economics sections in my head. Sadly, most Unis now practice automatic admissions (based on files and prior grades) rather than arranging their own examinations (which yielded a smaller but better crowd). They’d rather keep the number of students high instead of gracefully declining and increasing quality of individual instruction.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @Romanian

    So far I've seen THREE different posts in this thread where the poster says that he COULD have been Math Olympiad material but he picked something BETTER - sports and girls, engineering, economics. "Those grapes were sour anyway", says the fox. It sounds like you are making excuses to yourself because no one asked any of you whether you could have done MO or not. To be honest, if you could have really done MO you probably would have, but no one except you cares so don't bring it up.

  68. @Anon
    Africa invades Europe, and European cinema sympathizes.

    http://www.slantmagazine.com/film/review/samba

    "it also explores the politics of identity"

    Yeah, he's a black guy invading Europe because his kind has ruined black Africa that obviously can't be run by people like him.

    'Politics of identity', how precious.

    "his buoyant personality"

    Blacks are often loud, aggressive, uninhibited, and obnoxious. The PC term for this is now 'buoyant'? If Liberals love black buoyancy, why do urban gentry use Section 8 programs to send blacks out to the suburbs or small towns? It seems to be big cities have gotten safer over the yrs because Liberal policies under Clinton and Bloomberg have locked up more buoyant blacks or sent them packing to other parts of the nation.

    Blacks are not only 'vibrant' but 'buoyant'. How come they sink at sea, then?

    "finds herself drawn to Samba not so much physically as emotionally"

    Right, THAT is why white women generally hook up with blacks. EMOTIONAL support. LOL. Funny, but if you look at stats, more black men are likely to dump their 'ho', white or black, and run off with others.

    If this black guy is so emotionally rich, why not stay in his country, try to improve it, and share his love with a black woman? He takes off to a rich white country and goes after white meat.

    "The film seeks to remind us that even when life is difficult there can be a respite, if not the first steps toward a remedy, in positivity."

    Is this a film review or some flaky new age 'self help' book?

    "inane bureaucracy foiling hopeful immigrants"

    What an idiot. European birthrates are in the tank, black Africa now has over a billion people and will have 5 billion by end of the century. If current waves of invasion continue, Europe will vanish as a race and culture.

    Yet, the idiot who wrote this review boo-hoos about 'inane bureaucracy' and 'hopeful immigrants'.

    In truth, EU bureaucracy hasn't done anything to stop this massive invasion of low-IQ immigrants who pose a danger to Europe because blacks are physically stronger and more aggressive than whites. Just look at crime stats in the US and in the EU.

    And what is this 'hopeful immigrant' crap? I wonder... if 50 million Chinese try to emigrate to Japan, thus destroying the demographic and cultural integrity of Japan, should Japan welcome the invaders as 'hopeful immigrants'?

    If 100 million Asian Indians try to cross over into Iran, thereby upsetting the demographic balance and cultural identity of Iranians, should Iranians welcome the invasion as 'hopeful immigration'?

    Is this reviewer living in a world of reality or is he spouting all the PC cliches to score status points among this urban gentry peers? I saith unto him, If you love diversity and blacks so much, why don't you move to Detroit, Jamaica, Haiti, or some nation in Africa?
    Why do you stick around a nice city that uses stop and frisk and section 8 programs to drive blacks out, often with the help of homosexuals?

    "It would serve as a sick joke against the immigration system, that it ultimately transforms even the most sympathetic person into a scam artist, if the film didn't view this conclusion with such an oddly joyful air."

    Naturally, one lie leads to another lie. It is like watergate. Trying to hide one lie with another lie spawns more lies.

    The truth is this. This character is an illegal invader who came to France. He needs to be deported. He is not some 'hopeful immigrant' but an illegal alien, an invader. Don't give me this PC crap. If a million Chinese cross over into Vietnam, they are no 'hopeful immigrants'. They are invaders.
    If a million Russians cross into Poland, they are invaders, not 'hopeful immigrants'.

    Also, most of these invaders are African males. They are not 'buoyant' but loud, abrasive, deceitful, and aggressive. They messed up their own nation because too many of such people are not good for society. They are out to prey on Europe and take white women because they (correctly) surmise that white males are now a bunch of castrated dorks who worship homosexuals and act like them too.
    But PC taught blacks to blame it all on 'white folks', and of course, the likes of Nick Prigg have been programmed to pat themselves on the back and see themselves as morally superior to other whites because they are so 'tolerant'.

    But in truth, the invasion is getting worse and NO nation can survive racially or culturally under such an massive onslaught.
    A movie likes this shows us the 'human' side of the tale, but any invasion on this scale is an inhuman attack on a nation's right to exist.

    If a million whites headed illegally to invade a black or asian country, people would call it imperialism. But when non-whites invade white lands, we are to see it as 'hopeful immigration'? How about Prigg pulling his head out of his ass?

    Pathetic.

    Replies: @Romanian

    You win the thread!

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Romanian


    You win the thread!
     
    Except for the "white males are now a bunch of castrated dorks who worship homosexuals and act like them too" bit. Such a blanket denunciation is neither warranted nor helpful.
  69. @Hacienda
    @anon

    Making a stand, Steve.
    I encourage whites to do the same. Many California whites try to do friendly, but come across as slimy.
    Friendship requires at least one partner to be strong.

    Replies: @anon

    Making a stand, Steve.

    Well technically it would be more side-stepping than making a stand – not that I’m criticizing, the lunatics have taken over the asylum and obviously no-one wants to risk their kid getting stabbed at school if they have a choice.

  70. “Tur recently threatened to send pundit Ben Shapiro “home in an ambulance” for pointing out that Jenner hasn’t had a chromosomectomy (which, by the way, isn’t a thing).”

    “Imagine, all this fuss over such a little thing”–David Niven at the ’74 Oscars after the infamous streaker scene.

    The sentiment appears quite appropriate in this case as well.

  71. @bigred2000
    @Anonymous

    I probably could have kicked butt in a "math Olympiad". Instead I did things like playing sports. Because sports get you exercise and can get you girls. What does math Olympiad get you?

    Replies: @rod1963, @Romanian, @Jus' Sayin'..., @jimbojones

    Smart people get plenty of quality poon where I’m from (so long as they’re not deep in the autism spectrum), and it starts reasonably early too. The developing society vibe must be shifting girls’ standards towards predictors of success, not just dominance. Also, school sports is not a thing here. I’ve noticed two things though – 1. cerebral types bloom late and are not generally up to playing the dating game until late adolescence (and may need guidance because of a lack of natural manly graces – nothing a good buddy won’t fix, or an insistent girlfriend); 2. many women have a threshold for intelligence seen as sexy, with diminishing marginal returns – they won’t really distinguish between an also-ran and a gold medalist at the IMO.

  72. @anony-mouse
    1/ Of course the real Steve would be trying to figure out a scientific explanation for why this confluence of events is happening in such a small area.

    2/ There have been lots of articles here about how Hispanics are really not having a major influence on culture in SoCal. Well maybe its that they're a bit more sane than people here are giving them credit for.

    Replies: @syonredux, @Lol, @Maj. Kong, @anon, @anon

    The regular folk are leaving.

  73. @Jus' Sayin'...
    @syonredux

    I'm not seeing much non-Jewish White either on the USA's Math Olympiad World Championship Team!

    Replies: @5371, @syonredux, @jon, @Daniel H

    I’m not seeing much non-Jewish White either on the USA’s Math Olympiad World Championship Team!

    Ethnic backgrounds of the six team members, based on the Surnames:
    Narayanan – Indian
    Stoner – English
    Kural – Couldn’t find anything, including a search of this Consolidated Jewish Surname Index (http://www.avotaynu.com/csi/csi-home.htm)
    Alweiss – German (so possibly Jewish)
    Lui & Lui – Chinese

    So likely on Jew, two-non Jewish whites, and three Asians. Of course, it could be possible that Alweiss is actually German, or that both Stoner and Kural are part-Jewish from the mother’s side.

    • Replies: @ben tillman
    @jon


    Stoner – English
     
    Stoner is a German-American name.

    Replies: @syonredux

  74. @syonredux
    America wins the Mathematics Olympiad for the first time in 21 years.Odd, I'm not seeing much in the way of Hispanic Mestizo/Amerind representation on the team....


    http://www.npr.org/2015/07/18/424122249/theyre-no-1-u-s-wins-math-olympiad-for-first-time-in-21-years

    Replies: @Jus' Sayin'..., @Romanian, @Jefferson, @Kenny

    “America wins the Mathematics Olympiad for the first time in 21 years.Odd, I’m not seeing much in the way of Hispanic Mestizo/Amerind representation on the team….”

    Amerindians/Mestizos on average have lower IQ’s than Whites and Asians. At the same time they are also less athletic on average than Blacks

    Does not seem like there are any pros in being a Mestizo/Amerindian. There is really nothing exceptional about them. They are the epitome of mediocrity.

    Take the athleticism of the average East Asian and the IQ of the average Black, mix them together and you have a Spanish speaking Amerindian/Mestizo.

  75. @Former Darfur
    @Anonymous

    Having a lot of fixed wing time but having abandoned the idea of helicopter flying early on in the attempt, I've noticed helo pilots, generally, build muscles, and can fight pretty well. The constant manipulation of cyclic, collective and rudder builds up the muscles, I guess. Helicopters are inherently unstable and the uncoordinated or lazy give up early, too.

    The other thing is that fixed wing aircraft usually kill you because you did something stupid. It's unheard of-almost-for something to happen at thirty thousand feet (outside of combat) that you know is going to kill you and will give you a long time to think about it on the way down. Helicopters do this in a good percentage of helo crashes (although being low altitude machines the time factor is less): it chucks some part or something breaks (i.e. the so called Jesus bolt) and 1) you did nothing wrong, 2) you can do nothing about it and 3) you know full well the whole way down you are going to die.

    In military jets you can eject. In rotary wing you don't even have a parachute because in an uncontrolled helo you couldn't bail out without getting chopped to bits by the rotor.

    This weighs on the helo guys a lot and makes them pretty fatalistic.

    Replies: @The Man From K Street, @Kevin O'Keeffe, @Jack D

    “In military jets you can eject. In rotary wing you don’t even have a parachute because in an uncontrolled helo you couldn’t bail out without getting chopped to bits by the rotor.

    This weighs on the helo guys a lot and makes them pretty fatalistic.”

    It seems to this layman, that some sort of lateral ejection system, could be developed for helicopter pilots.

    • Replies: @Truth
    @Kevin O'Keeffe




    It seems to this layman, that some sort of lateral ejection system, could be developed for helicopter pilots.
     
    Helo pilots don't have the altitude to deploy a chute. And yes, as one who works for the army, they seem nutty in a way the fighter jet pilots don't. Although I haven't known many of the latter.
    , @Anonymous
    @Kevin O'Keeffe

    From the navy side all pilots started out in fixed-wing aircraft. Those who learned the fastest and the best were sent to jets (with some slop for current needs in respective communities). I'm living proof that you can pretty much teach even a dog to fly but the navy wants it done yesterday and are very focused on time/cost to train.

    I recall a marine classmate who was very morose when he was denied his first, second, and third choice and was instead sent off to jet school.

    As to the no-bailout factor; it didn't bother me much over water but over trees and mountains I tried to think about something else.

  76. @Maj. Kong
    @anony-mouse

    Things you learn here:

    Hispanics commit less crime, and influence the culture less. They practically don't even exist.

    Replies: @Jefferson

    “Hispanics commit less crime, and influence the culture less. They practically don’t even exist.”

    Yeah Hispanics commit very little violent crime in America. The Illegal Immigrant who murdered Kathryn Steinle, his last name is Goldstein right?

    • Replies: @ben tillman
    @Jefferson


    Yeah Hispanics commit very little violent crime in America. The Illegal Immigrant who murdered Kathryn Steinle, his last name is Goldstein right?
     
    It's not like there are no Hispanics named Goldstein. I did a hearing in front of an administrative court in Austin, and one of the judges was named Carlos Goldstein.

    Replies: @Jefferson

  77. @Romanian
    @syonredux

    Too much White and Honorary White male privilege in every edition of the competition (there were a few girls, though).

    It would be déclassé to brag, but the first one was held in Romania, and we routinely do pretty well on them in world rankings and the European ones. Sadly, we lose most of the best performers to emigration. There is some comfort in the thought that we're not screwed up enough to not find them in the first place.

    https://www.imo-official.org/country_info.aspx?code=ROU

    https://www.imo-official.org/country_team_r.aspx?code=ROU&column=year&order=desc

    I was pretty good at Math and Physics for HS level, but the competitive scene was ruthless (I was a common prole compared to the others) even in flyover country, where I grew up, and my best skills are in the Jewish Dept (verbal etc). So I picked Mammon, and went for an Economics and International Relations degree, rather than Polytechnic. During the entrance exams, people thought I was failing, because I did the Math and Economics sections in my head. Sadly, most Unis now practice automatic admissions (based on files and prior grades) rather than arranging their own examinations (which yielded a smaller but better crowd). They'd rather keep the number of students high instead of gracefully declining and increasing quality of individual instruction.

    Replies: @Jack D

    So far I’ve seen THREE different posts in this thread where the poster says that he COULD have been Math Olympiad material but he picked something BETTER – sports and girls, engineering, economics. “Those grapes were sour anyway”, says the fox. It sounds like you are making excuses to yourself because no one asked any of you whether you could have done MO or not. To be honest, if you could have really done MO you probably would have, but no one except you cares so don’t bring it up.

  78. @bigred2000
    @Anonymous

    I probably could have kicked butt in a "math Olympiad". Instead I did things like playing sports. Because sports get you exercise and can get you girls. What does math Olympiad get you?

    Replies: @rod1963, @Romanian, @Jus' Sayin'..., @jimbojones

    Okay, Sherlock. Go for it. This is one of the elimination round questions: “xi is an infinite sequence of positive reals such that for all n, x1 + x2 + … + xn ≥ square root of n. Show that x12 + x22 + … + xn2 > (1 + 1/2 + 1/3 + … + 1/n) / 4 for all n. ” Can you answer it without cheating?

  79. @Former Darfur
    @Anonymous

    Having a lot of fixed wing time but having abandoned the idea of helicopter flying early on in the attempt, I've noticed helo pilots, generally, build muscles, and can fight pretty well. The constant manipulation of cyclic, collective and rudder builds up the muscles, I guess. Helicopters are inherently unstable and the uncoordinated or lazy give up early, too.

    The other thing is that fixed wing aircraft usually kill you because you did something stupid. It's unheard of-almost-for something to happen at thirty thousand feet (outside of combat) that you know is going to kill you and will give you a long time to think about it on the way down. Helicopters do this in a good percentage of helo crashes (although being low altitude machines the time factor is less): it chucks some part or something breaks (i.e. the so called Jesus bolt) and 1) you did nothing wrong, 2) you can do nothing about it and 3) you know full well the whole way down you are going to die.

    In military jets you can eject. In rotary wing you don't even have a parachute because in an uncontrolled helo you couldn't bail out without getting chopped to bits by the rotor.

    This weighs on the helo guys a lot and makes them pretty fatalistic.

    Replies: @The Man From K Street, @Kevin O'Keeffe, @Jack D

    This is a really strange reason for rationalizing a career choice. Yes, in the unlikely event that a Jesus bolt breaks in a helicopter, you are going to have a few quick minutes to contemplate your demise, but so what? Lots of people have internal “Jesus bolts” that fail and they have anywhere from minutes to years to contemplate their inevitable demise. If you are flying a twin engine aircraft and one engine goes, you have a pretty good chance of botching the recovery procedure (“the second engine takes you to the scene of the crash”). In fact, most fixed wing crashes are due to pilot error, because pilots are human and humans make errors. Yes, it will be your own damn fault but how is that supposed to comfort you? Because it gives you some illusion of control? “I won’t be the one to f*ck up. I’m too good and smart for that.” Dream on – it happens to the best. Even Sully was damn lucky. In the end, we all die of something. I know some helo pilots and they are no more or less fatalistic than anyone else.

    • Replies: @Former Darfur
    @Jack D

    In a real twin engine aircraft, you're OK if you lose an engine at pretty much any time. In a light twin not meeting transport category single engine takeoff/climbout minima, if it quits enroute you are generally OK, but of course engines tend to quit on takeoff.

    Helo pilots are a different breed for some reason, whether my theory as to why is correct or not.
    They really are different, as a group. It's noticeable.

    Replies: @Jack D

  80. @syonredux
    @SFG

    For guys like Jenner (and, from what I've seen, Vahle and Tur) it has nothing to do with having a "feminized" brain.It's just autogynephilia. They are sexually aroused by the idea of looking (vaguely) like a woman, and cross-dressing just won't do the trick any longer.

    Replies: @Clyde, @SFG

    For guys like Jenner (and, from what I’ve seen, Vahle and Tur) it has nothing to do with having a “feminized” brain.It’s just autogynephilia. They are sexually aroused by the idea of looking (vaguely) like a woman, and cross-dressing just won’t do the trick any longer.

    Do you think they are having sex with
    a) women?
    b) men?
    c) others like themselves?
    d) none of the above?
    e) robots?

    • Replies: @travis
    @Clyde

    we know Bruce and these other so-called trannies continue to have sex with females. autogyneaphilliacs are extreme transvestites...they get off on dressing and acting like females, but enjoy sex with females. They are not attracted to men and continue to have sex with females. None of these men were homosexuals , but they were always transvestites.

    Bruce will keep his genitalia, so he can continue to fornicate with good looking girls.

    Replies: @Clyde

    , @Mark Minter
    @Clyde

    I posted a quiz here a few days from Prof Bailey of Northwestern that determined if a tranny was a gay tranny, a gay so attracted to straight males they wished to be women, or autogynophilic men. One of the questions was what they were sexually attracted with a list. The autoginas were attracted to (a) nothing (b) women. The gay trannies were attracted only to men.

  81. Tur recently threatened to send pundit Ben Shapiro “home in an ambulance” for pointing out that Jenner hasn’t had a chromosomectomy

    I thought it was for calling Tur “sir”. And Tur’s response proved Shapiro’s point. Tur is not a woman physically or in any other way. He’s a man and a bully.

  82. el topo [AKA "darryl revok"] says:

    Salon’s reaction to the Shapiro/Tur dust-up is predictable: http://www.salon.com/2015/07/17/ben_shapiro_tries_and_spectacularly_fails_to_humiliate_trans_woman_zoey_tur_what_are_your_genetics_sir/

    What’s interesting is that reasonable liberals in the comment section are finally getting fed up with the violence and dishonesty of the far Left. These are interesting times.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @el topo

    Nice to see that there is some tiny bit sanity out there, even on Salon--if nothing else, people willing to argue that if gender is arbitrary, and you can define your own gender any way you please, you don't have any logical grounds for forcing me to accept your definition and to stop addressing you any way I please.

    (Of course, as @Sue D. Nim's link shows, logic has nothing to do with it. What matters is placement on the victim/privilege scale. Let's hope this circular firing squad consumes itself over that question sooner rather than later.)

  83. Seriously, what is going on, is there something in the drinking water ?

  84. @Jack D
    @Former Darfur

    This is a really strange reason for rationalizing a career choice. Yes, in the unlikely event that a Jesus bolt breaks in a helicopter, you are going to have a few quick minutes to contemplate your demise, but so what? Lots of people have internal "Jesus bolts" that fail and they have anywhere from minutes to years to contemplate their inevitable demise. If you are flying a twin engine aircraft and one engine goes, you have a pretty good chance of botching the recovery procedure ("the second engine takes you to the scene of the crash"). In fact, most fixed wing crashes are due to pilot error, because pilots are human and humans make errors. Yes, it will be your own damn fault but how is that supposed to comfort you? Because it gives you some illusion of control? "I won't be the one to f*ck up. I'm too good and smart for that." Dream on - it happens to the best. Even Sully was damn lucky. In the end, we all die of something. I know some helo pilots and they are no more or less fatalistic than anyone else.

    Replies: @Former Darfur

    In a real twin engine aircraft, you’re OK if you lose an engine at pretty much any time. In a light twin not meeting transport category single engine takeoff/climbout minima, if it quits enroute you are generally OK, but of course engines tend to quit on takeoff.

    Helo pilots are a different breed for some reason, whether my theory as to why is correct or not.
    They really are different, as a group. It’s noticeable.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @Former Darfur


    In a real twin engine aircraft, you’re OK if you lose an engine at pretty much any time
     
    Unless you shut down your remaining good engine by mistake ....

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gDqkW2iuWwc

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TransAsia_Airways_Flight_235

    That's a "real" plane .. an ATR 72.

    In theory, every twin, even a light twin, is flyable on one engine or the FAA won't certify it. In practice, a lot of pilots don't react properly even though they have been trained on engine out procedures, especially, as you say, if the shutdown occurs during or soon after takeoff. The pilot forgets to feather the prop of the dead engine (or feathers the wrong one) or to put the gear and flaps up or whatever. If you do it all by the book you are supposed to be able to fly out of it, but in real life many don't - it's just too much for a lot of people to handle and it all happens very fast. As you can see from the above video, even some air transport pilots can't handle it.

    Replies: @Former Darfur

  85. @Jus' Sayin'...
    @syonredux

    I'm not seeing much non-Jewish White either on the USA's Math Olympiad World Championship Team!

    Replies: @5371, @syonredux, @jon, @Daniel H

    I would say that Stoner and Kural are not Jews. Stoner went to a Christian school and Kural’s father studied at Notre Dame. (Google is wonderful). But I could be wrong.

  86. O.J. transitioning to O.J.J.

    I can’t think of any black male-to-female trannies, can you?

    • Replies: @el topo
    @International Jew

    Janet Mock is a prominent one. Weirdly, he/she is the only convincingly feminine one. Different anatomical/hormonal profile?

    , @Anon
    @International Jew

    Laverne Cocks

    , @syonredux
    @International Jew


    O.J. transitioning to O.J.J.

    I can’t think of any black male-to-female trannies, can you?
     

    GOOGLE search "Black Shemales" or "Black Trannies." There are tons of them.


    And there was a strong M to F transgender component to Michael Jackson's plastic surgery odyssey.The MSM overlooked it in their "Michael wants to be White" centered coverage, but it was very much there.

  87. Steve,

    This is OT but I recall you having interest in Michael Hastings’ fatal car crash. Recently a pair of security engineers went public with an exploit that allowed them to take over full control of a car’s systems (acceleration, braking, steering, etc.).

    http://www.wired.com/2015/07/hackers-remotely-kill-jeep-highway/

  88. @Whiskey
    @Stan D Mute

    No conspiracy needed, just an appreciation for human dynamics. McCain like all incumbents benefits from slinging the pork around, big time, thus getting big endorsements from various groups, and by name recognition, and by political patronage otherwise known as Machine Politics. This is how Teddy Kennedy held onto his seat, despite plenty of Black/Brown challengers.

    EVENTUALLY incumbents either die in office (Kennedy, Robert Byrd) or get too old and out of touch to maintain the pillars of general pork, political patronage, name recognition, etc. to fend off challengers. This can take decades however.

    McCain was endorsed by all the "leading" Conservative organizations and publications, no surprise as he offers a lot of patronage to both by hiring off the organizations and publications. It takes a huge amount of publicity, money, and long time public exposure (so that incumbents and media allies cannot define challengers as "kooks") to fight machine politics. This is why Trump is so threatening -- his decades in public life have given him sky high name recognition and his character is already well defined. The Media can't suddenly define Trump as a kook when he was just a few years ago part of a jokey Golden Oreos commercial with the Manning Brothers. And had a long run on NBC with his reality show.

    Replies: @Stan D Mute

    No conspiracy needed, just an appreciation for human dynamics.

    Perhaps. But as I wrote, it’s difficult to believe AZ voters went to the polls and said, “Aw heck, I don’t really care about all that illegal immigration business after all, I’ll just go ahead and vote for Johnny MexCan ’cause that Rinse Prickwash fella at the GOP says to vote for him.” If voters are that stupid then there’s really no hope for a democratic solution is there?

    Won’t the same dynamic apply to Trump (or anyone else)? “Aw heck, I sure do like what that Trump fella is saying, but Rinse Prickwash at the GOP says I gotta vote for El Jebe.”

    Intellectually I know that candidates are elected by a minority of the eligible voters, that fewer than half those eligible do in fact vote and it takes just 51% of those to elect a Johnny MexCan or El Jebe. Voter apathy (or more likely the sense of vote futility) is the problem. That still makes it no easier to swallow the idea that a State consistently over 70% anti-invasion could return a pro-invasion traitor to the Senate.

    • Replies: @Whiskey
    @Stan D Mute

    Trump is a public figure for nearly thirty years. So, his image is what it is from Celebrity Apprentice, regular Apprentice, his Oreos commercials. Etc. That dynamic was absent McCain's challenger who was unknown. Also McCain flat out lied, saying he'd build the fence. People can't define Trump they way could, say unknown Tancredo.

    Most voters are not stupid, but find politics tiresome and icky, go with whoever is best known and has the most "on" personality (not necessarily the most likable either). In the mistaken belief that their private lives are separate from government. Government and policy (so far) has not directly and VISIBLY touched the average voter so that's understandable. Most people also trust the media (which is changing though) far too much. Its not Reince Preibus as much as say, NBC News. Lyin' Brian Williams was incredibly damaging there.

  89. @bigred2000
    @Anonymous

    I probably could have kicked butt in a "math Olympiad". Instead I did things like playing sports. Because sports get you exercise and can get you girls. What does math Olympiad get you?

    Replies: @rod1963, @Romanian, @Jus' Sayin'..., @jimbojones

    I knew a guy who won (a gold or whatever medal in) the IMO (International Math Olympiad). He had a very domineering mother. After his victory he participated in a TV show called “The Beauty and the Geek.” He was the geek. The experience left him scarred for life and put him in overcompensation mode with an overdrive. He became an obsessive-compulsive body-builder. A year or two later he looked like a (statue of a) Greek god…

  90. You know what would turn around this Caitlyn Jenner story for me? Brucelina should get back in training and enter some track and field events. Could a 61 year old former world-class male athlete compete with the girls in a contest with real stakes (for the girls that is)? Wouldn’t you like to know? I bet everyone would.

    • Replies: @Danindc
    @Ezra

    That would be amazing if Caitlin won the women's decathlon gold in Brazil 2016. Even better if OJ and Kim are in the stands cheering him on....

  91. el topo [AKA "darryl revok"] says:
    @International Jew

    O.J. transitioning to O.J.J.
     
    I can't think of any black male-to-female trannies, can you?

    Replies: @el topo, @Anon, @syonredux

    Janet Mock is a prominent one. Weirdly, he/she is the only convincingly feminine one. Different anatomical/hormonal profile?

  92. @anonymous-antimarxist
    QUESTION????

    Has there been documented cases of an early stage autogynephiliacs who have been successfully treated with the goal of restoring a hetero-normative psychology and retaining a cis-gender phenotype???

    I just wonder if there are examples of somebody who says "You know after decades of living as a successful, more than adequately if not over sexed heterosexual male, I started having this mania that was leading me towards a "trans" future. Thank God I found a competent psychiatrist who accurately diagnosed my condition and restored me to a hetero normal identity."

    Because it would put a lie to the line "I suffered all my life in secret, because I always identified as a woman and now I am the woman I always knew I was inside and that nature and society conspired against me being"

    Replies: @Perspective

    Scientists have managed to reorient gay male sheep to straight sheep. Even with sheep there was a strong uproar from the usual crowd:

    “Whatever happens in 2007, we already have the most surreal headline of the year: “Sheep have right to be gay, says Martina Navratilova”. But behind this headline and buried beneath the battery of baa-aad jokes it seems to beckon, there is a strange and serious story that will ripple out through the 21st century in ways we cannot predict.

    “That’s why the experimenters began to try to something new: making the gay sheep straight. They altered the hormonal levels in their brains and monitored their behaviour. And the result? Many of the gay rams decided a bit of ewe wasn’t so bad after all. They began to have heterosexual sex.”

    http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/commentators/johann-hari/johann-hari-the-intriguing-tale-of-the-gay-sheep-430683.html

    • Replies: @anonymous-antimarxist
    @Perspective

    Thanks we need to be on the look out for more of this sort of thing.'
    '
    I also know that the LGBT crowd went nuts when it was announced that there were possible medical interventions to prevent the effects of congenital adrenal hyperplasia in the womb. CAH has been linked to lesbianism in women and hyper sexuality in males(including abnormally large penises)

    http://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/congenital-adrenal-hyperplasia/basics/prevention/con-20030910

    It would seem to me that the vast majority of in private cross dressers would be able to respond to a combination of drug and psychological interventions and remain relatively "hetero-normative". To me it is pure "Gender Marxist" ideology that is pushing the whole trans treatment protocol for auto-gynephilliacs.
    Not to mention that there is a boat load more money to be paid pushing "gender reassignment" than just psychotherapy and psychiatric medication.

    , @e
    @Perspective

    The article is wrong. Roselli and his team did not turn the gay sheep straight. His work continues, however, and it seems pretty clear that a small area of the gay ram brain, the ovine sexually dimorphic nucleus, (oSDN) is smaller in volume in gay rams than in straight rams (although the number of cells are basically the same.)

    , @anon
    @Perspective

    Rams are apparently the only other mammal who get this a lot so what causes it in sheep may well be what causes it in humans.

  93. SFG says:
    @syonredux
    @SFG

    For guys like Jenner (and, from what I've seen, Vahle and Tur) it has nothing to do with having a "feminized" brain.It's just autogynephilia. They are sexually aroused by the idea of looking (vaguely) like a woman, and cross-dressing just won't do the trick any longer.

    Replies: @Clyde, @SFG

    Bailey (I think) divided transgenders into late-onsets who are autogynephiliacs, as you say, and early-onsets who are extremely feminine men who feel feminine.

    There are huge numbers of early-onset (teenage) transgenders, and we never saw this before.

    I’m convinced there may be a huge public health problem that’s being hushed up for PC reasons.But, if enough Middle Americans get worried about this, it may force the Powers that Be to take action–remember, they did take mercury out of vaccines, even if the evidence for that was rather weak.

    • Replies: @Anon
    @SFG

    Maybe because we're encouraging it as a pathway to fame?

    , @syonredux
    @SFG


    There are huge numbers of early-onset (teenage) transgenders, and we never saw this before.
     
    Yeah, but are the operating factors biological or cultural? The Trans-lobby is much more powerful now than it was even 10 years ago.An extremely effeminate Gay 13 year-old now has the option of declaring himself a girl and asking for puberty-blockers.In 1988, that wasn't a likely scenario.

    Replies: @anonymous-antimarxist

    , @anon
    @SFG

    Inclined to agree.

  94. OT, @Steve, though he surely already knows:

    http://www.nytimes.com/2015/07/21/opinion/is-polygamy-next.html

    Is Polygamy Next?

    executive summary: yes, it is.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @theo the kraut

    If same-sex unions are valid, why on earth would you apply bigamy law to them? What's the point?

    Same with consanguinity. Why should the state bar identical twins from marriage? The only defensible reason has just been taken away. These restrictions are heteronormative.

    Replies: @stillCARealist

    , @ben tillman
    @theo the kraut


    Is Polygamy Next?

    executive summary: yes, it is.
     
    It hurts to hear that. The FLDS approached me about representing them in their Texas lawsuits, but I understand the importance of monogamy to Western culture. So I passed. But of it's going to happen, I guess I threw away a lot of money for nothing.

    Replies: @SFG

    , @Geschrei
    @theo the kraut


    Is Polygamy Next?
     
    I'm guessing same-sex incest will soon follow.

    After all, the fear of inbreeding is the only logical reason for the taboo against the practice. Obviously, with same sex incestual couplings, the possibility of getting pregnant with an imbecile is eliminated. Everything other objection is based on merely old-fashioned prudishness and Puritanism. Why should we condemn the natural intimacy of physical love between two consenting same-sex siblings of appropriate age?

    Hey, speaking of "appropriate age", why is the age of consent so high in Western societies? After all, we've already seen multiple instances of pre-pubescents who have determined for themselves that they were born misgenedered, and wise psychological counselors have encouraged them to embrace their true identities while still in elementary school. If such brave young transpersons are capable of choosing their gender, why can't their 8- or 9-year-old classmates be trusted to make similarly significant decisions about their virginity?



    See how easy it is to make these arguments, once you cast aside those foolish notions about morality?

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

  95. @Clyde
    @syonredux


    For guys like Jenner (and, from what I’ve seen, Vahle and Tur) it has nothing to do with having a “feminized” brain.It’s just autogynephilia. They are sexually aroused by the idea of looking (vaguely) like a woman, and cross-dressing just won’t do the trick any longer.
     
    Do you think they are having sex with
    a) women?
    b) men?
    c) others like themselves?
    d) none of the above?
    e) robots?

    Replies: @travis, @Mark Minter

    we know Bruce and these other so-called trannies continue to have sex with females. autogyneaphilliacs are extreme transvestites…they get off on dressing and acting like females, but enjoy sex with females. They are not attracted to men and continue to have sex with females. None of these men were homosexuals , but they were always transvestites.

    Bruce will keep his genitalia, so he can continue to fornicate with good looking girls.

    • Replies: @Clyde
    @travis


    we know Bruce and these other so-called trannies continue to have sex with females. autogyneaphilliacs are extreme transvestites…they get off on dressing and acting like females, but enjoy sex with females. They are not attracted to men and continue to have sex with females. None of these men were homosexuals , but they were always transvestites.
    Bruce will keep his genitalia, so he can continue to fornicate with good looking girls.
     
    If Bruce and trannies like him are getting female hormone injections to grow breasts and feel female in other ways, then it is going to be difficult for them to get erections to have male-female sex. Maybe they take Viagra too.
    But then maybe they lay off the female hormones for periods of time and rely on breast implants to make them womanly in their warped minds. Then they have can have sex.
    None of these men were homosexuals , but they were always transvestites.
    Ol Brucie was, so their form of transgender is just a serious ramping up of previous behavior.
  96. @anonymous-antimarxist
    @Anonymous

    Nice theory about autogyneaphillia and environmental or infectious factors/causation.

    But it looks like it has been around for a long time.

    The Late Roman Republic Consul/Dictator and all around alpha dog bad ass Sulla sounded like the classic autogyny crossdressing tyrant .

    Plutarch described Sulla as a fond of cross dressing, beautiful women and transvestite actors.

    https://writingandhistory.wordpress.com/2015/03/31/marius-sulla-and-the-fall-of-the-roman-republic/

    Replies: @e

    That it’s been around a long time (just like homosexuality) doesn’t discount autogynephilia or infectious causation. You do know bugs have been with us forever, right, and they out evolve us easily? And paraphilias? Why would you think they’d have to be new?

    • Replies: @anonymous-antimarxist
    @e

    The peculiar nature of autogynephilia is that it tends to only afflict men who up till middle age were successful alpha status, sexually active, if not over sexed, males.

    Name another infectious decease or environmental factor that is so very very selective on who affects???

    Autogynephillia may certainly have a genetic component, but it seems to be primarily a narcissistic mental delusion. And Lord knows we have no shortage of delusions around that are most common to specific sub-populations and are culturally informed.

    Science fiction geeks when under extreme mental duress believe they have been abducted by "Aliens" and been subjected to "anal probing".

    Under the pressure of life's ups and downs, Christians believe they have seen Jesus. Muslims are told by Allah to go on Jihad.

    Anxiety riddled Jews are certain that they seeing antisemitism everywhere.

    Michael Shermer's book "The Believing Brain" is really good on just how commonplace and yet specific mental delusions are.

    Ultra masculine men, who have been use to being able to have access to just about any female they desire and being recognized as being at the top of their professions, are vulnerable to a specific delusion during the middle life crisis that all men go through that their diminishing alpha dog status is due the fact they are a woman trapped in a man's body. Once they have undergone their transformation to a female however it will be once again clearly obvious just how amazing and attractive they truly are. And nobody, under the threat of abuse or worse if necessary, will be able to deny it!!!

    Remember how painful being rejected by females was when you were a skinny teenager???

    Now what if your whole life you have been rarely if ever rejected. Your career had been one greater achievement after another. You have been use to a life of bedding dozens of very very attractive and ever younger women. Suddenly, you find yourself, divorced, your ex-wives were sick of your infidelities, and that that younger women you so badly desire and are addicted to to sooth your emotional pain are now not only no longer enthralled with your alpha male status but see you as a just creepy old man their father's age. Add on top of that the other signs of middle age, a bulging waistline, hair loss, wriggles, fatigue, loss of sexual desire and stamina..... you have the makings of a first class mental breakdown.

    Is it not more likely that this sort of extreme midlife mental breakdown leads to the embracing of the delusion of autogynephillia????

    Replies: @e, @Inquiring Mind, @Father O'Hara

  97. @Steve Sailer
    @anon

    They're working on that in San Marino and Arcadia.

    Replies: @Anon

  98. I demand proof on the Juice’s dad being a cross-dresser.

  99. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    OT:

    A new Tessa Kum?
    https://www.unz.com/isteve/the-media-heroine-of-the-australian-counterbacklash-has-some-issues/

    A Sudanese immigrant to Australia whom Jimmy Fallon called one of the world’s worst rappers is being praised by the Australia media. Even though his music is objectively terrible, the National Media of Australia can’t get enough of him — because he’s black.

    Like Tessa Kum, he has a very “problematic” history of posting things onto the internet. He likes to refer to the scores of white women he beds as “white bitches”.

    View post on imgur.com

    But because he is a black immigrant to Australia, he get’s a pass on his racist and sexist tweets.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Anonymous


    He likes to refer to the scores of white women he beds
     
    PPOR.
  100. Anonymous • Disclaimer says: • Website
    @el topo
    Salon's reaction to the Shapiro/Tur dust-up is predictable: http://www.salon.com/2015/07/17/ben_shapiro_tries_and_spectacularly_fails_to_humiliate_trans_woman_zoey_tur_what_are_your_genetics_sir/

    What's interesting is that reasonable liberals in the comment section are finally getting fed up with the violence and dishonesty of the far Left. These are interesting times.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    Nice to see that there is some tiny bit sanity out there, even on Salon–if nothing else, people willing to argue that if gender is arbitrary, and you can define your own gender any way you please, you don’t have any logical grounds for forcing me to accept your definition and to stop addressing you any way I please.

    (Of course, as @Sue D. Nim’s link shows, logic has nothing to do with it. What matters is placement on the victim/privilege scale. Let’s hope this circular firing squad consumes itself over that question sooner rather than later.)

  101. @International Jew

    O.J. transitioning to O.J.J.
     
    I can't think of any black male-to-female trannies, can you?

    Replies: @el topo, @Anon, @syonredux

    Laverne Cocks

  102. @SFG
    @syonredux

    Bailey (I think) divided transgenders into late-onsets who are autogynephiliacs, as you say, and early-onsets who are extremely feminine men who feel feminine.

    There are huge numbers of early-onset (teenage) transgenders, and we never saw this before.

    I'm convinced there may be a huge public health problem that's being hushed up for PC reasons.But, if enough Middle Americans get worried about this, it may force the Powers that Be to take action--remember, they did take mercury out of vaccines, even if the evidence for that was rather weak.

    Replies: @Anon, @syonredux, @anon

    Maybe because we’re encouraging it as a pathway to fame?

  103. “Detroit Republican”

  104. @Tacitus2016
    @point break

    "It’s like the ultimate rush". Very good point. There's a charge there no doubt for the transformer. All those thoughts about women throughout the years, now you are one(at least in your own mind). The breaking of taboos.

    One thing about Jenner. How many daughters does he have? Maybe they came late in his life when he was already transfixed on the idea of being a woman. Having daughters certainly demystifies the female of the species(as does having a girlfriend or a wife).

    You'd have to be an arrogant prick to do that to your family. Really are you that important compared to your kids?

    Replies: @slumber_j

    You’d have to be an arrogant prick to do that to your family. Really are you that important compared to your kids?

    I’m very much with you there. My wife has one of these guys in her extended family–Uncle (by marriage) Bill, who’s now a so-called aunt, having undertaken the Full Thai-surgical Monty some years ago. His poor daughter, the only known issue, is a sweetheart who’s since had a big neurotic meltdown with the panic attacks and all. She’s the victim, and it was all entirely avoidable.

    Interestingly, my wife’s aunt–her father’s sister–has remained steadfast after a rocky period in their relationship. Indeed she seems to have harnessed the whole business for a sort of SJW posturing binge, writing about the wonders of Bill’s transformation in the class notes for the bulletin of her fancy Boston girls’ school. It takes all kinds, I’m told.

  105. >>>The two male TV helicopter pilots were once fierce rivals, fighting over airspace ….

    Vahle came upon a news story about Tur and thought, “You’ve got to be f–king kidding me!…….

    But the two didn’t link up until relatively recently after mutual friend — and helicopter pilot — Desiree Horton told Tur to reach out to her old nemesis………

    They had a “tense” dinner but eventually became close as they bonded over the change process.<<<

    There is excellent material for a Will Ferrell movie here if anybody dare produce it.

  106. @Anonymous
    I have another theory about "Caitlyn" Jenner and her remarkable transubstantiation as a "woman" at age 66. Most men I know older than 55 have problems with prostate enlargement. The standard medical treatment is Finasteride (or an equivalent), which slowly feminizes men. Most start growing breasts, which range from breast buds to something a teenage girl would envy. If you doubt, take the standard philosophical maxim regarding truth ... "look and see", paying careful attention to men in polo shirts or the more adventurous who will shed their shirts at the beach or the swimming pool.

    This is a tradeoff. A friend of mine with prostate problems noticed he was growing breasts. He stopped his treatments. He was later diagnosed with prostate cancer. In prior eras, men with enlarged prostates eventually died from uric poisoning if cancer did not get them first. Again, feminization of aging males to extend life is a tradeoff.

    Add this to the virtual sea of estrogenic compounds found in pesticides, plastics, and the female hormones used to tenderize meat and the male of the species in Western industrial culture is being slowly "trannied" and feminized ... or whatever you want to call it ... from the womb.

    This is not unique to men. After a bout with breast cancer (perhaps caused by the sea of estrogenic compounds in our environment ... nothing else tracks), my wife has been put on a regime of "anti-estrogen" medication. Yes, it is changing her personality. She is more aggressive and makes furtive attempts at being in control and being rational, dispositions she had never expressed before. As other evidence of estrogen poisoning in our environment, we have only to look at the ages in which young girls start their periods today and become susceptible to impregnation ... as early as 8 years old.

    The root causes of all of this? Industrial pollution and a predatory capitalism that seeks to maximize profits regardless of the consequences.

    Caitlyn, enjoy your new life. You will soon have lots of company.

    Replies: @anonymous-antimarxist, @Reg Cæsar

    Then there is the claim that oral contraceptives end up in the rivers and are messing up fish in the same way.

  107. Anon • Disclaimer says:

    http://www.campusreform.org/?ID=6681

    Jews got it down pat.

    They want First World power as the ruling elites of the West… but they want Third World status as victims.

    In the past, to be the ruling elites of the West that was triumphant and victorious around the world came with pride and prestige. To rule and to have the power meant you were made of glory and greatness.

    But that was then, this is now. Now, the West is in repentant mode, and much of Western history is seen as one of oppression, conquest, exploitation, imperialism, slavery, genocide, murderous wars, and etc. So, the West must feel shame about the past. Pride and prestige are out(except when Zionists want the West to bash the Muslim world, Russia, and maybe China).

    What is admired today is victim-hood. So, if you’re non-white or Jewish, you cry victim-hood to score easy points. And if you’re white, you have to exhibit redemptive ‘white guilt’ to show that you’re morally superior to whites who aren’t as sorry.

    Still, as always, people want power and privilege. And no people have as much power, privilege, and wealth as Jews do. That means Jews are now the ruling elites of the West. They own and control the bulk of power, influence, wealth, and clout in the West.
    But, this poses a problem because, in the New West, it is victim-hood that counts in terms of moral credit whereas having power and privilege means you’re a oppressor and exploiter.

    Jews want first world power as ruling elites but they want third world protection as tragic victims. Jews want(and have gained) the ruling-elite-power that the white gentile elites once had. But they want to be perceived as part of the ‘victim’ class. For awhile, it was enough for Jews to scream ‘Holocaust’.
    But it’s not as effective as it used to be. Why?

    1. WWII grows more distant.

    2. Holocaust guilt is something only white gentiles might feel as it was a European affair. As the US and EU(with massive Muslim/African influx) becomes demographically less white, this Holy Holocaust guilt matters less and less to people of color or ‘diversity’, especially as non-whites come from non-Christian cultures with no concept of repentant guilt.

    3. The rise of pop culture and homo/tranny silliness have made people trashier and shallower. So, no one knows anything about history anymore. And in a world where rap and tranny exhibitionism are the thing, Holocaust is just boring and uncool for a lot of millennial dolts. It is too ‘European’.

    4. With Israel-Palestine issue in the news, Jews are seen less as victims and more as nasty oppressors of Palestinians.

    5. Even with all the PC and ADL witch-hunting, it’s getting pretty obvious to everyone–whites, Asians, Muslims, Mexicans, etc–that Jews are immensely powerful and rich in Wall Street, Hollywood, Las Vegas, Ivy League elite schools, top law firms, US government, the Fed, intelligence networks, and etc. Rick Sanchez was fired and blacklisted by Jewish power for his noticing of Jewish power/privilege, but it may not be so easy to do so in the future as ‘diversity’ makes greater headway into the media. The replacement of Jon Stewart Lebowicz seems to have weathered the storm. But then, he’s part Jewish.

    This Prescod Weinstein seems like she’s playing a dirty game.

    By bitching about ‘white privilege’, I think she’s trying to divert our attention from the real power and privilege that rules much of the world: Jewish Power. In this, she is like Matt Stein of Mad Men fame who say poor poor Jews should not be confused with ‘white privilege’. His complaint is hilarious since in today’s America, Jewish power is many times that of ‘white privilege’. Pound for pound, nothing comes anywhere near Jewish power and privilege. It is white people who should be demanding that they not be confused with Jewish privilege. When someone says, “white males control Hollywood”, it is total bullshit since the ruling elites of Hollywood are really Jewish elites and Jewish homo elites who are NOT representative of the white population as a whole.

    Funny that she bitches about the Founding Fathers, but what were ruling elites in other parts of the world like at the time of the Founders? Were Asian, African, Latin American, Jewish, Arabian, Hindu, Muslim, Ottoman, and etc ruling elites any better or more advanced? It seems to be that the Founders, for all their faults, were comparatively forward-looking men of great character, fortitude, and wisdom.

    Seriously, suppose US had been founded by the ruling elites from other parts of the world. Would US have turned out better if the Founders had been African tribal chieftains, Chinese overlords, Ottoman Sultans, Japanese samurai feudalists, Arabian princes, Spanish aristocrats, and etc? Some of these men has eunuchs serve them galore and harems in the hundreds or even thousands.

    And I wonder how Weinstein would react if people were to point out all the powerful Jews who were not so pristine in character all throughout history. Surely, there were Jews who had slaves, sold slaves, raped, conquered, exploited others, took part in communist mass murder of Christians, took part in Zionist ethnic cleansing of Palestinians, took part is espionage that sent Stalin the secrets to the atomic bomb, ran casinos to rip off the public, ran pornified pop culture to corrupt young girls into whoredom…

    And I wonder how Weinstein would react if someone pointed out that MLK was a liar, plagiarist, a beater of woman, and braggart of abuse of women.

    Personally, I’m for bashing all people equally OR, if we’re gonna go easy on non-whites, I say let’s go a little on easy on whites too.
    It’s not right to hold the Founders to the highest standards while overlooking all the mass killings and slavery practiced by non-whites and Jews throughout the ages.

  108. @theo the kraut
    OT, @Steve, though he surely already knows:

    http://www.nytimes.com/2015/07/21/opinion/is-polygamy-next.html

    Is Polygamy Next?

    executive summary: yes, it is.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @ben tillman, @Geschrei

    If same-sex unions are valid, why on earth would you apply bigamy law to them? What’s the point?

    Same with consanguinity. Why should the state bar identical twins from marriage? The only defensible reason has just been taken away. These restrictions are heteronormative.

    • Replies: @stillCARealist
    @Reg Cæsar

    A friend just told me about two half-sisters who are in an incestuous, lesbian relationship. It grosses me out on multiple levels, but I'm guessing an awful lot of "normal" people out there are just thinking, "whatever, dude". It's hard to believe what doesn't shock us anymore.

    so yeah, look for the easing of consanguineous relationships and marriages in situations where they're not as close as full blood relatives.

  109. @Perspective
    @anonymous-antimarxist

    Scientists have managed to reorient gay male sheep to straight sheep. Even with sheep there was a strong uproar from the usual crowd:

    "Whatever happens in 2007, we already have the most surreal headline of the year: "Sheep have right to be gay, says Martina Navratilova". But behind this headline and buried beneath the battery of baa-aad jokes it seems to beckon, there is a strange and serious story that will ripple out through the 21st century in ways we cannot predict.

    "That's why the experimenters began to try to something new: making the gay sheep straight. They altered the hormonal levels in their brains and monitored their behaviour. And the result? Many of the gay rams decided a bit of ewe wasn't so bad after all. They began to have heterosexual sex."

    http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/commentators/johann-hari/johann-hari-the-intriguing-tale-of-the-gay-sheep-430683.html

    Replies: @anonymous-antimarxist, @e, @anon

    Thanks we need to be on the look out for more of this sort of thing.’

    I also know that the LGBT crowd went nuts when it was announced that there were possible medical interventions to prevent the effects of congenital adrenal hyperplasia in the womb. CAH has been linked to lesbianism in women and hyper sexuality in males(including abnormally large penises)

    http://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/congenital-adrenal-hyperplasia/basics/prevention/con-20030910

    It would seem to me that the vast majority of in private cross dressers would be able to respond to a combination of drug and psychological interventions and remain relatively “hetero-normative”. To me it is pure “Gender Marxist” ideology that is pushing the whole trans treatment protocol for auto-gynephilliacs.
    Not to mention that there is a boat load more money to be paid pushing “gender reassignment” than just psychotherapy and psychiatric medication.

  110. @theo the kraut
    OT, @Steve, though he surely already knows:

    http://www.nytimes.com/2015/07/21/opinion/is-polygamy-next.html

    Is Polygamy Next?

    executive summary: yes, it is.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @ben tillman, @Geschrei

    Is Polygamy Next?

    executive summary: yes, it is.

    It hurts to hear that. The FLDS approached me about representing them in their Texas lawsuits, but I understand the importance of monogamy to Western culture. So I passed. But of it’s going to happen, I guess I threw away a lot of money for nothing.

    • Replies: @SFG
    @ben tillman

    I don't know. If you were a Roman in the later days of Rome, would you feel good about being the guy who cut the deal with the barbarians to let them settle, even if someone else was going to do it anyway?

    It's not quite dying against fearful odds for the ashes of your fathers and the temples of your gods, but there's no actual war going on.

    I agree with you 100%, for evolutionary reasons--allowing alpha males to marry multiple women (which is what will actually happen after the polyamorous hippies are done) will slant the sexual market even worse than it already is. And in the long-run, more selection for bad boys over good citizens.

    I guess you know you're becoming conservative when you start thinking you're glad you won't live to see what's coming down the pike?

  111. e says:
    @Perspective
    @anonymous-antimarxist

    Scientists have managed to reorient gay male sheep to straight sheep. Even with sheep there was a strong uproar from the usual crowd:

    "Whatever happens in 2007, we already have the most surreal headline of the year: "Sheep have right to be gay, says Martina Navratilova". But behind this headline and buried beneath the battery of baa-aad jokes it seems to beckon, there is a strange and serious story that will ripple out through the 21st century in ways we cannot predict.

    "That's why the experimenters began to try to something new: making the gay sheep straight. They altered the hormonal levels in their brains and monitored their behaviour. And the result? Many of the gay rams decided a bit of ewe wasn't so bad after all. They began to have heterosexual sex."

    http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/commentators/johann-hari/johann-hari-the-intriguing-tale-of-the-gay-sheep-430683.html

    Replies: @anonymous-antimarxist, @e, @anon

    The article is wrong. Roselli and his team did not turn the gay sheep straight. His work continues, however, and it seems pretty clear that a small area of the gay ram brain, the ovine sexually dimorphic nucleus, (oSDN) is smaller in volume in gay rams than in straight rams (although the number of cells are basically the same.)

  112. @Ezra
    You know what would turn around this Caitlyn Jenner story for me? Brucelina should get back in training and enter some track and field events. Could a 61 year old former world-class male athlete compete with the girls in a contest with real stakes (for the girls that is)? Wouldn't you like to know? I bet everyone would.

    Replies: @Danindc

    That would be amazing if Caitlin won the women’s decathlon gold in Brazil 2016. Even better if OJ and Kim are in the stands cheering him on….

  113. So, OJ’s famous ride started off at a guy’s house whose widow married a man who’s now a woman, and was filmed from a helicopter by two men who are also now women.

    Huh.

    History and its connections, huh? How about that. James Burke would be proud.

    • Replies: @TB2
    @Brother John

    Only if he could tie it to the making of . . . the ATOMIC BOMB!

  114. O.J., whose father was a transvestite…

    Is that why he was in San Francisco? How big was the drag scene that long ago?

  115. @SFG
    @el topo

    Want my theory (and I wish Steve would cover this, because it could be a real problem)?

    Endocrine disruptors. There are byproducts of plastic production that look chemically similar to estrogens.

    We know this is causing changes in frogs and fish, and more and more boys are being born with genital anomalies. If they estrogenize the brain...

    I'm afraid this is one of these weird cases where the left doesn't want to admit transgender is wrong and the right doesn't want to admit industrial pollution is important, so it gets hushed up. But someone needs to speak out about it--whatever the left wants to say, being born with a 'feminized' brain if you are a man leads only to misery either way. It's a medical condition, like diabetes or arthritis, and our bizarre attitudes about it don't make it any less painful.

    If you can use your outlaw-megaphone to start awareness in the general public, this could be a chance to make some real change, and if they, say, ban these chemicals, a lot of kids could be spared some very painful identity problems.

    Replies: @syonredux, @gruff, @Nathan Wartooth

    I think a lot of modern problems are being caused by all the weird chemical and radiological stuff we’re constantly being exposed to. Cancer being the most obvious. Not to mention the gut flora imbalances.

    A hundred years from now they’ll look back at us and shake their heads.

  116. @Jefferson
    @Maj. Kong

    "Hispanics commit less crime, and influence the culture less. They practically don’t even exist."

    Yeah Hispanics commit very little violent crime in America. The Illegal Immigrant who murdered Kathryn Steinle, his last name is Goldstein right?

    Replies: @ben tillman

    Yeah Hispanics commit very little violent crime in America. The Illegal Immigrant who murdered Kathryn Steinle, his last name is Goldstein right?

    It’s not like there are no Hispanics named Goldstein. I did a hearing in front of an administrative court in Austin, and one of the judges was named Carlos Goldstein.

    • Replies: @Jefferson
    @ben tillman

    "It’s not like there are no Hispanics named Goldstein. I did a hearing in front of an administrative court in Austin, and one of the judges was named Carlos Goldstein."

    But are Hispanics with last names like Goldstein the ones committing violent crimes in the U.S? No they are not. Kathryn Steinle's killer has an extremely Spanish sounding last name.

  117. @jon
    @Jus' Sayin'...


    I’m not seeing much non-Jewish White either on the USA’s Math Olympiad World Championship Team!
     
    Ethnic backgrounds of the six team members, based on the Surnames:
    Narayanan - Indian
    Stoner - English
    Kural - Couldn't find anything, including a search of this Consolidated Jewish Surname Index (http://www.avotaynu.com/csi/csi-home.htm)
    Alweiss - German (so possibly Jewish)
    Lui & Lui - Chinese

    So likely on Jew, two-non Jewish whites, and three Asians. Of course, it could be possible that Alweiss is actually German, or that both Stoner and Kural are part-Jewish from the mother's side.

    Replies: @ben tillman

    Stoner – English

    Stoner is a German-American name.

    • Replies: @syonredux
    @ben tillman


    Stoner – English

    Stoner is a German-American name.
     
    Stoner, like Miller, can be either English or German (Steiner=Stoner, Mueller=Miller).Unless you know a person's ancestry, you can't be sure.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

  118. @SFG
    @el topo

    Want my theory (and I wish Steve would cover this, because it could be a real problem)?

    Endocrine disruptors. There are byproducts of plastic production that look chemically similar to estrogens.

    We know this is causing changes in frogs and fish, and more and more boys are being born with genital anomalies. If they estrogenize the brain...

    I'm afraid this is one of these weird cases where the left doesn't want to admit transgender is wrong and the right doesn't want to admit industrial pollution is important, so it gets hushed up. But someone needs to speak out about it--whatever the left wants to say, being born with a 'feminized' brain if you are a man leads only to misery either way. It's a medical condition, like diabetes or arthritis, and our bizarre attitudes about it don't make it any less painful.

    If you can use your outlaw-megaphone to start awareness in the general public, this could be a chance to make some real change, and if they, say, ban these chemicals, a lot of kids could be spared some very painful identity problems.

    Replies: @syonredux, @gruff, @Nathan Wartooth

    This used to be a conspiracy theory, but now it is fact.

    I remember reading some article about how some peer reviewed journal published findings about this. I was pretty shocked because I thought it was BS, but it is not.

  119. @theo the kraut
    OT, @Steve, though he surely already knows:

    http://www.nytimes.com/2015/07/21/opinion/is-polygamy-next.html

    Is Polygamy Next?

    executive summary: yes, it is.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @ben tillman, @Geschrei

    Is Polygamy Next?

    I’m guessing same-sex incest will soon follow.

    After all, the fear of inbreeding is the only logical reason for the taboo against the practice. Obviously, with same sex incestual couplings, the possibility of getting pregnant with an imbecile is eliminated. Everything other objection is based on merely old-fashioned prudishness and Puritanism. Why should we condemn the natural intimacy of physical love between two consenting same-sex siblings of appropriate age?

    Hey, speaking of “appropriate age”, why is the age of consent so high in Western societies? After all, we’ve already seen multiple instances of pre-pubescents who have determined for themselves that they were born misgenedered, and wise psychological counselors have encouraged them to embrace their true identities while still in elementary school. If such brave young transpersons are capable of choosing their gender, why can’t their 8- or 9-year-old classmates be trusted to make similarly significant decisions about their virginity?

    See how easy it is to make these arguments, once you cast aside those foolish notions about morality?

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Geschrei


    I’m guessing same-sex incest will soon follow.

     

    It may not be possible, depending on your jurisdiction's laws. Compare Minnesota's and Wisconsin's. Both define incest as sexual intercourse. That requires both sexes, right? In Minnesota, presumably, which is silent thereafter. Wisconsin goes on to redefine sexual intercourse to include all kinds of other activities, not all of which use a sex organ, in which two of the same sex can participate.

    If you're gonna
    Shag him in Winona
    You oughta be fine
    But do it in LaCrosse,
    Buddy, it's your loss,
    Not mine


    Iowa defines incest as a sex act. The sex act definitely requires both. Massachusetts follows marital consanguinity rules, which have never been rephrased for SSM, so you're safe there as well.

    However, Iowa will let you marry your brother, but not your first cousin. That term is "gender neutral".
  120. @Clyde
    @syonredux


    For guys like Jenner (and, from what I’ve seen, Vahle and Tur) it has nothing to do with having a “feminized” brain.It’s just autogynephilia. They are sexually aroused by the idea of looking (vaguely) like a woman, and cross-dressing just won’t do the trick any longer.
     
    Do you think they are having sex with
    a) women?
    b) men?
    c) others like themselves?
    d) none of the above?
    e) robots?

    Replies: @travis, @Mark Minter

    I posted a quiz here a few days from Prof Bailey of Northwestern that determined if a tranny was a gay tranny, a gay so attracted to straight males they wished to be women, or autogynophilic men. One of the questions was what they were sexually attracted with a list. The autoginas were attracted to (a) nothing (b) women. The gay trannies were attracted only to men.

  121. @Kevin O'Keeffe
    @Former Darfur

    "In military jets you can eject. In rotary wing you don’t even have a parachute because in an uncontrolled helo you couldn’t bail out without getting chopped to bits by the rotor.

    This weighs on the helo guys a lot and makes them pretty fatalistic."

    It seems to this layman, that some sort of lateral ejection system, could be developed for helicopter pilots.

    Replies: @Truth, @Anonymous

    It seems to this layman, that some sort of lateral ejection system, could be developed for helicopter pilots.

    Helo pilots don’t have the altitude to deploy a chute. And yes, as one who works for the army, they seem nutty in a way the fighter jet pilots don’t. Although I haven’t known many of the latter.

  122. @e
    Two of them, same job. What are the odds? I mean, it's not as if their condition is all that common.

    So, maybe there's some kind of toxin related to their former jobs that results in this? I mean, you have to start looking somewhere.

    Plastics are a big problem and there are, studies show, all kinds of estrogens from bc pills in our water.

    Replies: @anon, @Pure and Easy

    Perhaps that’s a very good point.

    Up until recently you would have thought nearly impossible.

    But if this occurs in a profession which doesn’t have a large population pool, then it’s either a black swan or trans are more prevalent than assumed.

  123. @syonredux
    Since yesterday was the anniversary of the Moon Landing:


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wptn5RE2I-k

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Mr. Anon

    That’s one small punch for a man. One giant wallop for an a**hole.

  124. @Former Darfur
    @Jack D

    In a real twin engine aircraft, you're OK if you lose an engine at pretty much any time. In a light twin not meeting transport category single engine takeoff/climbout minima, if it quits enroute you are generally OK, but of course engines tend to quit on takeoff.

    Helo pilots are a different breed for some reason, whether my theory as to why is correct or not.
    They really are different, as a group. It's noticeable.

    Replies: @Jack D

    In a real twin engine aircraft, you’re OK if you lose an engine at pretty much any time

    Unless you shut down your remaining good engine by mistake ….

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TransAsia_Airways_Flight_235

    That’s a “real” plane .. an ATR 72.

    In theory, every twin, even a light twin, is flyable on one engine or the FAA won’t certify it. In practice, a lot of pilots don’t react properly even though they have been trained on engine out procedures, especially, as you say, if the shutdown occurs during or soon after takeoff. The pilot forgets to feather the prop of the dead engine (or feathers the wrong one) or to put the gear and flaps up or whatever. If you do it all by the book you are supposed to be able to fly out of it, but in real life many don’t – it’s just too much for a lot of people to handle and it all happens very fast. As you can see from the above video, even some air transport pilots can’t handle it.

    • Replies: @Former Darfur
    @Jack D

    Historically it took a long time to get twin engine aircraft to really be even as safe as a single engine one. The trimotor was one solution to the problem that two engines were , not twice as safe, but half as safe, if losing either engine was likely to crash you. By the DC-3, they had it down somewhat well for transports, but many military twin combat aircraft were horrendously dangerous if a single engine failed on takeoff. The P-38 Lightning, for example, had plenty of power, but it took a long time to feather the failed engine because it had electrically feathered/pitched props and it had huge, slow moving gear doors that greatly increased drag during the retract cycle.

    However, when flat (Lycoming or Continental) engine light twins like the Piper Apache (which was originally a Stinson), Cessna 300 and 400 series, and Beech Twin Bonanza/ Duke came out the lightplane makers were not held to the same standards as the transport category aircraft. All those airplanes were sold with legal gross weights at which the aircraft were simply not operable if one engine threw a jug or ate the single gear that drove both magnetos on takeoff. People were told that if one failed they should shut the other down and land straight ahead as if it were a single, but no one who owns an airplane worth twice what their house is is going to do that.

    Turbine engine aircraft are much simpler to deal with in these situations because they generally have single lever power control, and because with turbojet or turbofan engines there is just nothing to do with the dead engine. With turboprops, the two spool engines (Allison 250, now a Rolls Royce product, or the PT-6 P&W) the props self-feather if the engine flames out.

    Replies: @Jack D

  125. @Stan D Mute
    @Whiskey


    No conspiracy needed, just an appreciation for human dynamics.
     
    Perhaps. But as I wrote, it's difficult to believe AZ voters went to the polls and said, "Aw heck, I don't really care about all that illegal immigration business after all, I'll just go ahead and vote for Johnny MexCan 'cause that Rinse Prickwash fella at the GOP says to vote for him." If voters are that stupid then there's really no hope for a democratic solution is there?

    Won't the same dynamic apply to Trump (or anyone else)? "Aw heck, I sure do like what that Trump fella is saying, but Rinse Prickwash at the GOP says I gotta vote for El Jebe."

    Intellectually I know that candidates are elected by a minority of the eligible voters, that fewer than half those eligible do in fact vote and it takes just 51% of those to elect a Johnny MexCan or El Jebe. Voter apathy (or more likely the sense of vote futility) is the problem. That still makes it no easier to swallow the idea that a State consistently over 70% anti-invasion could return a pro-invasion traitor to the Senate.

    Replies: @Whiskey

    Trump is a public figure for nearly thirty years. So, his image is what it is from Celebrity Apprentice, regular Apprentice, his Oreos commercials. Etc. That dynamic was absent McCain’s challenger who was unknown. Also McCain flat out lied, saying he’d build the fence. People can’t define Trump they way could, say unknown Tancredo.

    Most voters are not stupid, but find politics tiresome and icky, go with whoever is best known and has the most “on” personality (not necessarily the most likable either). In the mistaken belief that their private lives are separate from government. Government and policy (so far) has not directly and VISIBLY touched the average voter so that’s understandable. Most people also trust the media (which is changing though) far too much. Its not Reince Preibus as much as say, NBC News. Lyin’ Brian Williams was incredibly damaging there.

  126. all these Internet commenters lecturing us on what’s masculine and how to get girls. lol.

  127. Priss Factor [AKA "skiapolemistis"] says:

    The main difference between white folks colonizing non-white lands AND non-white folks colonizing white lands.

    Former was about success, the latter is about failure.

    White folks succeeded in their own lands, so much so that they were able to build ships and technology to journey across the world and discover other lands. They succeeded in their own lands and spread their civilizational achivements to other lands that were either backward, barbarian, or downright savage.

    A story of success. Success in one’s own homeland, rising power and wealth, and the means/ability to settle in other lands and spread its superior means of social organization, political rule, economic production, and technological innovation.

    But what is non-whites moving to white nations about?
    It is the story of failure. They have failed in their own nations. Their own nations have either failed to grow and develop or, worse, they’ve been turned into hellholes, like in some African countries.

    Unlike white folks who first made their own nations cevelop & succeed and then took that formula of success to other lands, thereby creating success stories like Australia and America and Canada(and even Latin America when compared with the cruel and barbaric rule of the natives), the story of non-whites moving to white lands is a story of failure(and the spread of failure). They’ve either failed to develop their own lands or they made a total mess of their lands(into abject failures), and then they take their formula of failure to the West and, as a result, the West becomes Third-Worldized.

    Granted, not all non-whites are like this. The merchant and professional immigrants among Asian Indians have brought real talent to the West. Even so, UK has been flooded with some serious South Asian failure types, especially from numbnuts Pakistan. The Muslim world isn’t much of a success. The best of the Muslim world, Turkey, hasn’t exactly done wonders for Germany.
    And Trump is right to say Mexico is mostly exporting its failure to America, though to be sure, Mexicans are angels when compared with Negroes.

    When tons of Negroes from Africa are moving to Europe, these are people who not only messed up their own nations but are coming to mess up Europe as well. Their own nations are messed up because there are too many people like them, so why would any nation gain by having a lot of such people?

    Lots of Swedes mean success, so if Swedes move to another part of the world, it means success there too.
    Lots of Somalis mean failure, so if Somalis move to either Sweden or Minnesota, it means failure there too.

    When some people emigrate, it’s a case of exporting success.
    When some people emigrate, it’s a case of exporting failure.

    When some people immigrate, it’s a case of importing success.
    When some people immigrate, it’s a case of importing failure.

    General rule 1.

    A people who freely failed their own nations will almost surely fail other nations.
    (I say ‘freely’ because no one can succeed under system of tyranny. Jews who lived under discriminatory laws obviously couldn’t succeed.)
    In black Africa, people have freely messed up their own communities.
    Though people say Africans are leaving cuz they are poor, the fact is they’re leaving cuz they’re better off than before. In the past, most Africans never had TVs or computers or whatever. They only knew the world of their village. But today, lots of Africans have cellphones, TVs, and computers. And they have contacts in Europe. And they hear that they can get lots of freebies and goodies in the West, especially as white men are now a bunch of pansies and white women got hip hop jungle fever and white folks worship black runners and soccer players in Europe, especially France and UK.

    General rule 2.

    A people who freely succeed in their own nations will surely succeed in other nations.
    The tragedy of the West is it is now importing failure on a unprecedented scale.
    But due to the Negro-worshiping cult of sports and funky music, many white folks equate blacks, the biggest racial failures, with the image of power and success since blacks are very prominent in what turns white folks on.

    It’s all gonna end very badly. Like the ending of ZARDOZ. .

  128. Many of the hypermasculine men who transform also were most probably on steroid cycles and had downtime where their normal testosterone production took a nosedive. Thus allowing their womanly side to dominate their being.

    The US success in maths olympiad led to some interesting discussion on reddit. Finland, the PISA champs, ended up 82nd. And going to and fro about the TIMSS and PISA results, apparently they’ve cratered in PISA as well where Shanghai spanks them by like 100 points in maths.

    • Replies: @ben tillman
    @namae nanka


    Many of the hypermasculine men who transform also were most probably on steroid cycles and had downtime where their normal testosterone production took a nosedive. Thus allowing their womanly side to dominate their being.
     
    That's an interesting idea.
  129. OT: A New Zealand (autistic?) man spent a few weeks memorizing the French dictionary to beat a Gabonese man in the French Scrabble Championship. The Gabonese guy won last year.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3169709/Sacre-bleu-New-Zealand-man-wins-French-Scrabble-championship-despite-not-speaking-French.html

  130. @ben tillman
    @Jefferson


    Yeah Hispanics commit very little violent crime in America. The Illegal Immigrant who murdered Kathryn Steinle, his last name is Goldstein right?
     
    It's not like there are no Hispanics named Goldstein. I did a hearing in front of an administrative court in Austin, and one of the judges was named Carlos Goldstein.

    Replies: @Jefferson

    “It’s not like there are no Hispanics named Goldstein. I did a hearing in front of an administrative court in Austin, and one of the judges was named Carlos Goldstein.”

    But are Hispanics with last names like Goldstein the ones committing violent crimes in the U.S? No they are not. Kathryn Steinle’s killer has an extremely Spanish sounding last name.

  131. Was it a coincidence that ‘gay marriage’ became a huge issue just when the 1% was growing richer and more powerful?

    http://www.newsweek.com/2015/07/10/shift-corporate-america-social-issues-become-good-business-348458.html

  132. @travis
    @Clyde

    we know Bruce and these other so-called trannies continue to have sex with females. autogyneaphilliacs are extreme transvestites...they get off on dressing and acting like females, but enjoy sex with females. They are not attracted to men and continue to have sex with females. None of these men were homosexuals , but they were always transvestites.

    Bruce will keep his genitalia, so he can continue to fornicate with good looking girls.

    Replies: @Clyde

    we know Bruce and these other so-called trannies continue to have sex with females. autogyneaphilliacs are extreme transvestites…they get off on dressing and acting like females, but enjoy sex with females. They are not attracted to men and continue to have sex with females. None of these men were homosexuals , but they were always transvestites.
    Bruce will keep his genitalia, so he can continue to fornicate with good looking girls.

    If Bruce and trannies like him are getting female hormone injections to grow breasts and feel female in other ways, then it is going to be difficult for them to get erections to have male-female sex. Maybe they take Viagra too.
    But then maybe they lay off the female hormones for periods of time and rely on breast implants to make them womanly in their warped minds. Then they have can have sex.
    None of these men were homosexuals , but they were always transvestites.
    Ol Brucie was, so their form of transgender is just a serious ramping up of previous behavior.

  133. @Jack D
    @Former Darfur


    In a real twin engine aircraft, you’re OK if you lose an engine at pretty much any time
     
    Unless you shut down your remaining good engine by mistake ....

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gDqkW2iuWwc

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TransAsia_Airways_Flight_235

    That's a "real" plane .. an ATR 72.

    In theory, every twin, even a light twin, is flyable on one engine or the FAA won't certify it. In practice, a lot of pilots don't react properly even though they have been trained on engine out procedures, especially, as you say, if the shutdown occurs during or soon after takeoff. The pilot forgets to feather the prop of the dead engine (or feathers the wrong one) or to put the gear and flaps up or whatever. If you do it all by the book you are supposed to be able to fly out of it, but in real life many don't - it's just too much for a lot of people to handle and it all happens very fast. As you can see from the above video, even some air transport pilots can't handle it.

    Replies: @Former Darfur

    Historically it took a long time to get twin engine aircraft to really be even as safe as a single engine one. The trimotor was one solution to the problem that two engines were , not twice as safe, but half as safe, if losing either engine was likely to crash you. By the DC-3, they had it down somewhat well for transports, but many military twin combat aircraft were horrendously dangerous if a single engine failed on takeoff. The P-38 Lightning, for example, had plenty of power, but it took a long time to feather the failed engine because it had electrically feathered/pitched props and it had huge, slow moving gear doors that greatly increased drag during the retract cycle.

    However, when flat (Lycoming or Continental) engine light twins like the Piper Apache (which was originally a Stinson), Cessna 300 and 400 series, and Beech Twin Bonanza/ Duke came out the lightplane makers were not held to the same standards as the transport category aircraft. All those airplanes were sold with legal gross weights at which the aircraft were simply not operable if one engine threw a jug or ate the single gear that drove both magnetos on takeoff. People were told that if one failed they should shut the other down and land straight ahead as if it were a single, but no one who owns an airplane worth twice what their house is is going to do that.

    Turbine engine aircraft are much simpler to deal with in these situations because they generally have single lever power control, and because with turbojet or turbofan engines there is just nothing to do with the dead engine. With turboprops, the two spool engines (Allison 250, now a Rolls Royce product, or the PT-6 P&W) the props self-feather if the engine flames out.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @Former Darfur

    Piston twins are definitely worse, but even a turboprop twin with autofeather is still no piece of cake with a dead engine on takeoff - see the Taiwan crash. No matter how much they drill pilots on what to do in such a situation, when the sh*t hits the fan they don't always do the right thing and there are no second chances because you are already close to the ground. Many times you'd be better off if the pilot did nothing vs. what they actually do. Thankfully, modern turbine engines are very reliable.

  134. Such is the power of the black body that OJ’s fleeing black body in the white Bronco, escaping the white supremacist legal and police system who had framed him for the murder of two white bodies, turned three white men into transexuals, neutered white bodies, and the Kardashian sisters into coal burners, servile worshippers of the black body.
    OJ’s black body is in jail now, to prevent further disruptions in white bodies. For the Black Body is powerful juju. White man’s fear of its powerful magic makes him take as many black bodies as possible away from white gazes.

  135. I’m afraid this is one of these weird cases where the left doesn’t want to admit transgender is wrong and the right doesn’t want to admit industrial pollution is important, so it gets hushed up.

    Whoa, whoa, whoa, hold on a sec. Back it up there. You’re saying the right won’t expose trannies as a symptom of industrial pollution because ideology?

    McCain is a sacred cow among the neocons and he really needs to be taken down a few notches.

    Trump, at least on paper, handled the situation beautifully. He was actually at risk over the “disparaging the hero’s record” narrative, but he navigated through it by doubling down on McCain when the media made too big a deal out of it. You could kinda see his thinking there: “okay, fine, you really wanna do this? Okay, well, since you asked, he’s also a lousy politician, did a horrible job on the VA, and needs to be fired.”

    I mean, John McCain and Lyndsie Graham. These are the neocons’ butt boys. One’s a homo and the other’s literally the Manchurian Candidate.

    I am not a conspiracy theorist, but if anything could convince me it’s McCain. In Arizona, our most reliably anti-illegal immigrant State, how the hell does McCain keep getting sent back to the Senate?

    Funny, they say the same thing about Lyndsie Graham.

    McCain’s 2010 primary opponent was described as the “dumbest Congressman”. The Democrats have never mounted a serious challenge against him. Next year, they are, or perhaps not.

    Funny, nobody worth a damn ever challenges Lyndsie Graham, either.

    No conspiracy needed, just an appreciation for human dynamics. McCain like all incumbents benefits from slinging the pork around, big time, thus getting big endorsements from various groups, and by name recognition, and by political patronage otherwise known as Machine Politics. This is how Teddy Kennedy held onto his seat, despite plenty of Black/Brown challengers.

    Well, WHISKEY, AKA EVIL NEOCON, says there’s no NEOCON conspiracy…so I guess that’s that.

    It seems to this layman, that some sort of lateral ejection system, could be developed for helicopter pilots.

    Better yet, something like explosive bolts to throw the rotors laterally first. Well, better for the pilot, anyway.

    Is Polygamy Next?

    I predict no.

  136. @5371
    @Jus' Sayin'...

    Are you sure that David Stoner, Michael Kural and Ryan Alweiss are all Jews?

    Replies: @Shine a Light

    I’m a little bored today so I decided to play, Jew or Not Jew with the help of Google. It is not 100% definitive but I am going with:

    Ryan Alweiss: Full Jew

    Besides being impressively nasally endowed, he looks a lot like his mother. His mother’s clinic is within a 4 mile radius of Ryan’s school and her husbands clinic. But I do not have 100% proof that these are his parents:

    Gayle Amy Grossman, a medical student at Harvard University, and Dr. Gary Steven Alweiss, a neurologist, were married yesterday at Temple Israel in Great Neck, L.I., by Rabbi Mordechai Waxman.

    http://www.nytimes.com/1990/10/15/style/ms-grossman-weds-dr-gary-alweiss.html

    Michael Kural: Half Jew.

    His mother maiden name was Cohen. No evidence his father is Jewish however.

    David Stoner: Not a Jew.

    Not much on his father besides that he works at the Savannah River nuclear site, in any case the father certainly doesn’t look Jewish in the one photo I have seen. Mother is a biology / chemistry teacher at an Episcopal School in Aiken South Carolina.

    So 1.5 Gentiles and 1.5 Jews.

  137. @e
    @anonymous-antimarxist

    That it's been around a long time (just like homosexuality) doesn't discount autogynephilia or infectious causation. You do know bugs have been with us forever, right, and they out evolve us easily? And paraphilias? Why would you think they'd have to be new?

    Replies: @anonymous-antimarxist

    The peculiar nature of autogynephilia is that it tends to only afflict men who up till middle age were successful alpha status, sexually active, if not over sexed, males.

    Name another infectious decease or environmental factor that is so very very selective on who affects???

    Autogynephillia may certainly have a genetic component, but it seems to be primarily a narcissistic mental delusion. And Lord knows we have no shortage of delusions around that are most common to specific sub-populations and are culturally informed.

    Science fiction geeks when under extreme mental duress believe they have been abducted by “Aliens” and been subjected to “anal probing”.

    Under the pressure of life’s ups and downs, Christians believe they have seen Jesus. Muslims are told by Allah to go on Jihad.

    Anxiety riddled Jews are certain that they seeing antisemitism everywhere.

    Michael Shermer’s book “The Believing Brain” is really good on just how commonplace and yet specific mental delusions are.

    Ultra masculine men, who have been use to being able to have access to just about any female they desire and being recognized as being at the top of their professions, are vulnerable to a specific delusion during the middle life crisis that all men go through that their diminishing alpha dog status is due the fact they are a woman trapped in a man’s body. Once they have undergone their transformation to a female however it will be once again clearly obvious just how amazing and attractive they truly are. And nobody, under the threat of abuse or worse if necessary, will be able to deny it!!!

    Remember how painful being rejected by females was when you were a skinny teenager???

    Now what if your whole life you have been rarely if ever rejected. Your career had been one greater achievement after another. You have been use to a life of bedding dozens of very very attractive and ever younger women. Suddenly, you find yourself, divorced, your ex-wives were sick of your infidelities, and that that younger women you so badly desire and are addicted to to sooth your emotional pain are now not only no longer enthralled with your alpha male status but see you as a just creepy old man their father’s age. Add on top of that the other signs of middle age, a bulging waistline, hair loss, wriggles, fatigue, loss of sexual desire and stamina….. you have the makings of a first class mental breakdown.

    Is it not more likely that this sort of extreme midlife mental breakdown leads to the embracing of the delusion of autogynephillia????

    • Replies: @e
    @anonymous-antimarxist

    As for it not affecting them until middle age? How do you know that? For all we know (and I think Jenner pointed this out), they were waiting for their family to leave the house when they were little boys, then running into Sis's room to try on her clothes. Social convention meant they kept their little secret to themselves.

    On the other had, anorexia nervosa doesn't strike until the teens or in one's twenties.

    Deleterious effects from chronic infections often don't rear their head until late in life, one of the most common being cancers caused by HPV.

    Point is...mental illness has a biological cause.

    Replies: @Ozymandias

    , @Inquiring Mind
    @anonymous-antimarxist

    "Now what if your whole life you have been rarely if ever rejected. Your career had been one greater achievement after another. You have been use to a life of bedding dozens of very very attractive and ever younger women. Suddenly, you find yourself, divorced, your ex-wives were sick of your infidelities, and that that younger women you so badly desire and are addicted to to sooth your emotional pain are now not only no longer enthralled with your alpha male status but see you as a just creepy old man their father’s age. Add on top of that the other signs of middle age, a bulging waistline, hair loss"

    Um, you don't know something about The Donald, do you?

    , @Father O'Hara
    @anonymous-antimarxist

    yes I imagine for men like those it must be terribly hard to deal with "wriggles"...

  138. @ben tillman
    @theo the kraut


    Is Polygamy Next?

    executive summary: yes, it is.
     
    It hurts to hear that. The FLDS approached me about representing them in their Texas lawsuits, but I understand the importance of monogamy to Western culture. So I passed. But of it's going to happen, I guess I threw away a lot of money for nothing.

    Replies: @SFG

    I don’t know. If you were a Roman in the later days of Rome, would you feel good about being the guy who cut the deal with the barbarians to let them settle, even if someone else was going to do it anyway?

    It’s not quite dying against fearful odds for the ashes of your fathers and the temples of your gods, but there’s no actual war going on.

    I agree with you 100%, for evolutionary reasons–allowing alpha males to marry multiple women (which is what will actually happen after the polyamorous hippies are done) will slant the sexual market even worse than it already is. And in the long-run, more selection for bad boys over good citizens.

    I guess you know you’re becoming conservative when you start thinking you’re glad you won’t live to see what’s coming down the pike?

  139. @namae nanka
    Many of the hypermasculine men who transform also were most probably on steroid cycles and had downtime where their normal testosterone production took a nosedive. Thus allowing their womanly side to dominate their being.


    The US success in maths olympiad led to some interesting discussion on reddit. Finland, the PISA champs, ended up 82nd. And going to and fro about the TIMSS and PISA results, apparently they've cratered in PISA as well where Shanghai spanks them by like 100 points in maths.

    Replies: @ben tillman

    Many of the hypermasculine men who transform also were most probably on steroid cycles and had downtime where their normal testosterone production took a nosedive. Thus allowing their womanly side to dominate their being.

    That’s an interesting idea.

  140. @ben tillman
    @jon


    Stoner – English
     
    Stoner is a German-American name.

    Replies: @syonredux

    Stoner – English

    Stoner is a German-American name.

    Stoner, like Miller, can be either English or German (Steiner=Stoner, Mueller=Miller).Unless you know a person’s ancestry, you can’t be sure.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @syonredux

    In his surname dictionary, Basil Cottle lists Stonor, but not Stoner. C M Mathews has Stonier, which is rare, but she explains that Mason was a far more popular choice for men at that profession.

    Replies: @syonredux, @syonredux

  141. @SFG
    @syonredux

    Bailey (I think) divided transgenders into late-onsets who are autogynephiliacs, as you say, and early-onsets who are extremely feminine men who feel feminine.

    There are huge numbers of early-onset (teenage) transgenders, and we never saw this before.

    I'm convinced there may be a huge public health problem that's being hushed up for PC reasons.But, if enough Middle Americans get worried about this, it may force the Powers that Be to take action--remember, they did take mercury out of vaccines, even if the evidence for that was rather weak.

    Replies: @Anon, @syonredux, @anon

    There are huge numbers of early-onset (teenage) transgenders, and we never saw this before.

    Yeah, but are the operating factors biological or cultural? The Trans-lobby is much more powerful now than it was even 10 years ago.An extremely effeminate Gay 13 year-old now has the option of declaring himself a girl and asking for puberty-blockers.In 1988, that wasn’t a likely scenario.

    • Replies: @anonymous-antimarxist
    @syonredux

    And who exactly is promoting this "Growing Up Trans" insanity?????

    Ever hear of Miri Navasky daughter of Victor Navasky????

    Check out this earlier comment of mine:

    https://www.unz.com/isteve/nyt-celebrates-vt-day-in-world-war-t/#comment-1008860

    Now remember what is was like to be a child, not just the joys but the pains as well???

    How traumatic it was to be rejected by your peer group not to mention the opposite sex even in elementary and middle school.

    Well now the far left is attempting to promote a delusion to children that will supposedly free them of all the emotional pain of growing up.

    The "Gender Marxist" answer for mildly narcissistic anxious children who are gender developmentally delayed/confused/nonconforming is that they are trapped in the wrong sex body. The medical establishment is hot to jump on board because their a gold mine to be reaped from wealthy guilt ridden lefty parents promoting lifelong "trans" treatments vs more conventional temporary therapies.

    Replies: @stillCARealist

  142. @International Jew

    O.J. transitioning to O.J.J.
     
    I can't think of any black male-to-female trannies, can you?

    Replies: @el topo, @Anon, @syonredux

    O.J. transitioning to O.J.J.

    I can’t think of any black male-to-female trannies, can you?

    GOOGLE search “Black Shemales” or “Black Trannies.” There are tons of them.

    And there was a strong M to F transgender component to Michael Jackson’s plastic surgery odyssey.The MSM overlooked it in their “Michael wants to be White” centered coverage, but it was very much there.

  143. @syonredux
    @ben tillman


    Stoner – English

    Stoner is a German-American name.
     
    Stoner, like Miller, can be either English or German (Steiner=Stoner, Mueller=Miller).Unless you know a person's ancestry, you can't be sure.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    In his surname dictionary, Basil Cottle lists Stonor, but not Stoner. C M Mathews has Stonier, which is rare, but she explains that Mason was a far more popular choice for men at that profession.

    • Replies: @syonredux
    @Reg Cæsar


    In his surname dictionary, Basil Cottle lists Stonor, but not Stoner. C M Mathews has Stonier, which is rare, but she explains that Mason was a far more popular choice for men at that profession.
     
    A quick GOOGLE search shows that the "Stoner" variant exists in England (1891 census data):



    http://www.ancestry.com/name-origin?surname=stoner
    , @syonredux
    @Reg Cæsar

    Here's a more in-depth look at the "Stoner" name:

    http://www.stoner.org.uk/

    Odds are that an American with the "Stoner" surname is probably of German origins*, but one can't be absolutely certain.



    *Note the zone of highest frequency in 1920, all areas with heavy levels of German immigration:

    http://www.ancestry.com/name-origin?surname=stoner

    Replies: @SPMoore8

  144. @Geschrei
    @theo the kraut


    Is Polygamy Next?
     
    I'm guessing same-sex incest will soon follow.

    After all, the fear of inbreeding is the only logical reason for the taboo against the practice. Obviously, with same sex incestual couplings, the possibility of getting pregnant with an imbecile is eliminated. Everything other objection is based on merely old-fashioned prudishness and Puritanism. Why should we condemn the natural intimacy of physical love between two consenting same-sex siblings of appropriate age?

    Hey, speaking of "appropriate age", why is the age of consent so high in Western societies? After all, we've already seen multiple instances of pre-pubescents who have determined for themselves that they were born misgenedered, and wise psychological counselors have encouraged them to embrace their true identities while still in elementary school. If such brave young transpersons are capable of choosing their gender, why can't their 8- or 9-year-old classmates be trusted to make similarly significant decisions about their virginity?



    See how easy it is to make these arguments, once you cast aside those foolish notions about morality?

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    I’m guessing same-sex incest will soon follow.

    It may not be possible, depending on your jurisdiction’s laws. Compare Minnesota’s and Wisconsin’s. Both define incest as sexual intercourse. That requires both sexes, right? In Minnesota, presumably, which is silent thereafter. Wisconsin goes on to redefine sexual intercourse to include all kinds of other activities, not all of which use a sex organ, in which two of the same sex can participate.

    If you’re gonna
    Shag him in Winona
    You oughta be fine
    But do it in LaCrosse,
    Buddy, it’s your loss,
    Not mine

    Iowa defines incest as a sex act. The sex act definitely requires both. Massachusetts follows marital consanguinity rules, which have never been rephrased for SSM, so you’re safe there as well.

    However, Iowa will let you marry your brother, but not your first cousin. That term is “gender neutral”.

  145. @Former Darfur
    @Jack D

    Historically it took a long time to get twin engine aircraft to really be even as safe as a single engine one. The trimotor was one solution to the problem that two engines were , not twice as safe, but half as safe, if losing either engine was likely to crash you. By the DC-3, they had it down somewhat well for transports, but many military twin combat aircraft were horrendously dangerous if a single engine failed on takeoff. The P-38 Lightning, for example, had plenty of power, but it took a long time to feather the failed engine because it had electrically feathered/pitched props and it had huge, slow moving gear doors that greatly increased drag during the retract cycle.

    However, when flat (Lycoming or Continental) engine light twins like the Piper Apache (which was originally a Stinson), Cessna 300 and 400 series, and Beech Twin Bonanza/ Duke came out the lightplane makers were not held to the same standards as the transport category aircraft. All those airplanes were sold with legal gross weights at which the aircraft were simply not operable if one engine threw a jug or ate the single gear that drove both magnetos on takeoff. People were told that if one failed they should shut the other down and land straight ahead as if it were a single, but no one who owns an airplane worth twice what their house is is going to do that.

    Turbine engine aircraft are much simpler to deal with in these situations because they generally have single lever power control, and because with turbojet or turbofan engines there is just nothing to do with the dead engine. With turboprops, the two spool engines (Allison 250, now a Rolls Royce product, or the PT-6 P&W) the props self-feather if the engine flames out.

    Replies: @Jack D

    Piston twins are definitely worse, but even a turboprop twin with autofeather is still no piece of cake with a dead engine on takeoff – see the Taiwan crash. No matter how much they drill pilots on what to do in such a situation, when the sh*t hits the fan they don’t always do the right thing and there are no second chances because you are already close to the ground. Many times you’d be better off if the pilot did nothing vs. what they actually do. Thankfully, modern turbine engines are very reliable.

  146. @Reg Cæsar
    @syonredux

    In his surname dictionary, Basil Cottle lists Stonor, but not Stoner. C M Mathews has Stonier, which is rare, but she explains that Mason was a far more popular choice for men at that profession.

    Replies: @syonredux, @syonredux

    In his surname dictionary, Basil Cottle lists Stonor, but not Stoner. C M Mathews has Stonier, which is rare, but she explains that Mason was a far more popular choice for men at that profession.

    A quick GOOGLE search shows that the “Stoner” variant exists in England (1891 census data):

    http://www.ancestry.com/name-origin?surname=stoner

  147. @Reg Cæsar
    @syonredux

    In his surname dictionary, Basil Cottle lists Stonor, but not Stoner. C M Mathews has Stonier, which is rare, but she explains that Mason was a far more popular choice for men at that profession.

    Replies: @syonredux, @syonredux

    Here’s a more in-depth look at the “Stoner” name:

    http://www.stoner.org.uk/

    Odds are that an American with the “Stoner” surname is probably of German origins*, but one can’t be absolutely certain.

    *Note the zone of highest frequency in 1920, all areas with heavy levels of German immigration:

    http://www.ancestry.com/name-origin?surname=stoner

    • Replies: @SPMoore8
    @syonredux

    "Stoner" would be an obvious Anglicizing of "Steiner", unless you were Dutch and wanted to demonstrate learned pretensions, in which case you would use "Petraeus."

    I don't know why the Dutch and Germans got into that syndrome: Bauer = "Agricola", Schultheiss = "Pretorius", Schwarzerd = "Melanchthon", etc. I don't why they did that but it was definitely a thing.

    Replies: @syonredux

  148. @syonredux
    @SFG


    There are huge numbers of early-onset (teenage) transgenders, and we never saw this before.
     
    Yeah, but are the operating factors biological or cultural? The Trans-lobby is much more powerful now than it was even 10 years ago.An extremely effeminate Gay 13 year-old now has the option of declaring himself a girl and asking for puberty-blockers.In 1988, that wasn't a likely scenario.

    Replies: @anonymous-antimarxist

    And who exactly is promoting this “Growing Up Trans” insanity?????

    Ever hear of Miri Navasky daughter of Victor Navasky????

    Check out this earlier comment of mine:

    https://www.unz.com/isteve/nyt-celebrates-vt-day-in-world-war-t/#comment-1008860

    Now remember what is was like to be a child, not just the joys but the pains as well???

    How traumatic it was to be rejected by your peer group not to mention the opposite sex even in elementary and middle school.

    Well now the far left is attempting to promote a delusion to children that will supposedly free them of all the emotional pain of growing up.

    The “Gender Marxist” answer for mildly narcissistic anxious children who are gender developmentally delayed/confused/nonconforming is that they are trapped in the wrong sex body. The medical establishment is hot to jump on board because their a gold mine to be reaped from wealthy guilt ridden lefty parents promoting lifelong “trans” treatments vs more conventional temporary therapies.

    • Replies: @stillCARealist
    @anonymous-antimarxist

    You're right. The only solution is homeschooling. Get away from the bullies! Another bonus: no need for more psychiatrists.

  149. e says:
    @anonymous-antimarxist
    @e

    The peculiar nature of autogynephilia is that it tends to only afflict men who up till middle age were successful alpha status, sexually active, if not over sexed, males.

    Name another infectious decease or environmental factor that is so very very selective on who affects???

    Autogynephillia may certainly have a genetic component, but it seems to be primarily a narcissistic mental delusion. And Lord knows we have no shortage of delusions around that are most common to specific sub-populations and are culturally informed.

    Science fiction geeks when under extreme mental duress believe they have been abducted by "Aliens" and been subjected to "anal probing".

    Under the pressure of life's ups and downs, Christians believe they have seen Jesus. Muslims are told by Allah to go on Jihad.

    Anxiety riddled Jews are certain that they seeing antisemitism everywhere.

    Michael Shermer's book "The Believing Brain" is really good on just how commonplace and yet specific mental delusions are.

    Ultra masculine men, who have been use to being able to have access to just about any female they desire and being recognized as being at the top of their professions, are vulnerable to a specific delusion during the middle life crisis that all men go through that their diminishing alpha dog status is due the fact they are a woman trapped in a man's body. Once they have undergone their transformation to a female however it will be once again clearly obvious just how amazing and attractive they truly are. And nobody, under the threat of abuse or worse if necessary, will be able to deny it!!!

    Remember how painful being rejected by females was when you were a skinny teenager???

    Now what if your whole life you have been rarely if ever rejected. Your career had been one greater achievement after another. You have been use to a life of bedding dozens of very very attractive and ever younger women. Suddenly, you find yourself, divorced, your ex-wives were sick of your infidelities, and that that younger women you so badly desire and are addicted to to sooth your emotional pain are now not only no longer enthralled with your alpha male status but see you as a just creepy old man their father's age. Add on top of that the other signs of middle age, a bulging waistline, hair loss, wriggles, fatigue, loss of sexual desire and stamina..... you have the makings of a first class mental breakdown.

    Is it not more likely that this sort of extreme midlife mental breakdown leads to the embracing of the delusion of autogynephillia????

    Replies: @e, @Inquiring Mind, @Father O'Hara

    As for it not affecting them until middle age? How do you know that? For all we know (and I think Jenner pointed this out), they were waiting for their family to leave the house when they were little boys, then running into Sis’s room to try on her clothes. Social convention meant they kept their little secret to themselves.

    On the other had, anorexia nervosa doesn’t strike until the teens or in one’s twenties.

    Deleterious effects from chronic infections often don’t rear their head until late in life, one of the most common being cancers caused by HPV.

    Point is…mental illness has a biological cause.

    • Replies: @Ozymandias
    @e

    "Point is…mental illness has a biological cause."

    A sweeping statement with little basis in reality. Certainly there are some mental illnesses that are entirely biological, but most are a combination of nature AND nurture. Usually, these two mechanisms reinforce each other.

  150. The leading young rider in the Tour de France is a tiny Columbian named Nairo Quintana. His hometown is Combita, Boyata Columbia, altitide of almost 2,750 meters. Biking seems perfect for mesoamerican indians from altitude, where height may hinder, efficient lungs are everything and short powerful legs help. Won’t see too many running champs with those short, thick legs but on a bike that helps.

    Horses for courses.

  151. @JohnnyWalker123
    So when are they completing the border fence that McCain promised us?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r0lwusMxiHc

    Replies: @Harry Baldwin, @pyrrhus, @Sandy

    Why are you worried about fences?
    they’ve been digging Tunnels to America since 1979.

  152. @syonredux
    @Reg Cæsar

    Here's a more in-depth look at the "Stoner" name:

    http://www.stoner.org.uk/

    Odds are that an American with the "Stoner" surname is probably of German origins*, but one can't be absolutely certain.



    *Note the zone of highest frequency in 1920, all areas with heavy levels of German immigration:

    http://www.ancestry.com/name-origin?surname=stoner

    Replies: @SPMoore8

    “Stoner” would be an obvious Anglicizing of “Steiner”, unless you were Dutch and wanted to demonstrate learned pretensions, in which case you would use “Petraeus.”

    I don’t know why the Dutch and Germans got into that syndrome: Bauer = “Agricola”, Schultheiss = “Pretorius”, Schwarzerd = “Melanchthon”, etc. I don’t why they did that but it was definitely a thing.

    • Replies: @syonredux
    @SPMoore8


    “Stoner” would be an obvious Anglicizing of “Steiner”,
     
    Yeah, as I noted upthread, odds are that an American named Stoner is of German origins.However, you can't be 100% certain of that, as Stoner is also an English name.
  153. @SPMoore8
    @syonredux

    "Stoner" would be an obvious Anglicizing of "Steiner", unless you were Dutch and wanted to demonstrate learned pretensions, in which case you would use "Petraeus."

    I don't know why the Dutch and Germans got into that syndrome: Bauer = "Agricola", Schultheiss = "Pretorius", Schwarzerd = "Melanchthon", etc. I don't why they did that but it was definitely a thing.

    Replies: @syonredux

    “Stoner” would be an obvious Anglicizing of “Steiner”,

    Yeah, as I noted upthread, odds are that an American named Stoner is of German origins.However, you can’t be 100% certain of that, as Stoner is also an English name.

  154. @The Man From K Street
    @Former Darfur

    Re: chopper pilots' being more fatalistic/less disciplined than fixed-wing jocks:

    Pope Emeritus Benedict XVI was/is a licensed helicopter pilot (the age limit was waived in his case) who would often fly the Vatican whirlybird himself to Castel Gandolfo and back. Not saying it means anything, just throwing it out there as a data point/anecdote.

    Replies: @SFG

    Hey, it’s a cool one. With all the jokes about the Popemobile, I like the idea of a Popecopter. 😉

  155. @Perspective
    @anonymous-antimarxist

    Scientists have managed to reorient gay male sheep to straight sheep. Even with sheep there was a strong uproar from the usual crowd:

    "Whatever happens in 2007, we already have the most surreal headline of the year: "Sheep have right to be gay, says Martina Navratilova". But behind this headline and buried beneath the battery of baa-aad jokes it seems to beckon, there is a strange and serious story that will ripple out through the 21st century in ways we cannot predict.

    "That's why the experimenters began to try to something new: making the gay sheep straight. They altered the hormonal levels in their brains and monitored their behaviour. And the result? Many of the gay rams decided a bit of ewe wasn't so bad after all. They began to have heterosexual sex."

    http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/commentators/johann-hari/johann-hari-the-intriguing-tale-of-the-gay-sheep-430683.html

    Replies: @anonymous-antimarxist, @e, @anon

    Rams are apparently the only other mammal who get this a lot so what causes it in sheep may well be what causes it in humans.

  156. @SFG
    @syonredux

    Bailey (I think) divided transgenders into late-onsets who are autogynephiliacs, as you say, and early-onsets who are extremely feminine men who feel feminine.

    There are huge numbers of early-onset (teenage) transgenders, and we never saw this before.

    I'm convinced there may be a huge public health problem that's being hushed up for PC reasons.But, if enough Middle Americans get worried about this, it may force the Powers that Be to take action--remember, they did take mercury out of vaccines, even if the evidence for that was rather weak.

    Replies: @Anon, @syonredux, @anon

    Inclined to agree.

  157. @anonymous-antimarxist
    @e

    The peculiar nature of autogynephilia is that it tends to only afflict men who up till middle age were successful alpha status, sexually active, if not over sexed, males.

    Name another infectious decease or environmental factor that is so very very selective on who affects???

    Autogynephillia may certainly have a genetic component, but it seems to be primarily a narcissistic mental delusion. And Lord knows we have no shortage of delusions around that are most common to specific sub-populations and are culturally informed.

    Science fiction geeks when under extreme mental duress believe they have been abducted by "Aliens" and been subjected to "anal probing".

    Under the pressure of life's ups and downs, Christians believe they have seen Jesus. Muslims are told by Allah to go on Jihad.

    Anxiety riddled Jews are certain that they seeing antisemitism everywhere.

    Michael Shermer's book "The Believing Brain" is really good on just how commonplace and yet specific mental delusions are.

    Ultra masculine men, who have been use to being able to have access to just about any female they desire and being recognized as being at the top of their professions, are vulnerable to a specific delusion during the middle life crisis that all men go through that their diminishing alpha dog status is due the fact they are a woman trapped in a man's body. Once they have undergone their transformation to a female however it will be once again clearly obvious just how amazing and attractive they truly are. And nobody, under the threat of abuse or worse if necessary, will be able to deny it!!!

    Remember how painful being rejected by females was when you were a skinny teenager???

    Now what if your whole life you have been rarely if ever rejected. Your career had been one greater achievement after another. You have been use to a life of bedding dozens of very very attractive and ever younger women. Suddenly, you find yourself, divorced, your ex-wives were sick of your infidelities, and that that younger women you so badly desire and are addicted to to sooth your emotional pain are now not only no longer enthralled with your alpha male status but see you as a just creepy old man their father's age. Add on top of that the other signs of middle age, a bulging waistline, hair loss, wriggles, fatigue, loss of sexual desire and stamina..... you have the makings of a first class mental breakdown.

    Is it not more likely that this sort of extreme midlife mental breakdown leads to the embracing of the delusion of autogynephillia????

    Replies: @e, @Inquiring Mind, @Father O'Hara

    “Now what if your whole life you have been rarely if ever rejected. Your career had been one greater achievement after another. You have been use to a life of bedding dozens of very very attractive and ever younger women. Suddenly, you find yourself, divorced, your ex-wives were sick of your infidelities, and that that younger women you so badly desire and are addicted to to sooth your emotional pain are now not only no longer enthralled with your alpha male status but see you as a just creepy old man their father’s age. Add on top of that the other signs of middle age, a bulging waistline, hair loss”

    Um, you don’t know something about The Donald, do you?

  158. @Reg Cæsar
    @theo the kraut

    If same-sex unions are valid, why on earth would you apply bigamy law to them? What's the point?

    Same with consanguinity. Why should the state bar identical twins from marriage? The only defensible reason has just been taken away. These restrictions are heteronormative.

    Replies: @stillCARealist

    A friend just told me about two half-sisters who are in an incestuous, lesbian relationship. It grosses me out on multiple levels, but I’m guessing an awful lot of “normal” people out there are just thinking, “whatever, dude”. It’s hard to believe what doesn’t shock us anymore.

    so yeah, look for the easing of consanguineous relationships and marriages in situations where they’re not as close as full blood relatives.

  159. @anonymous-antimarxist
    @syonredux

    And who exactly is promoting this "Growing Up Trans" insanity?????

    Ever hear of Miri Navasky daughter of Victor Navasky????

    Check out this earlier comment of mine:

    https://www.unz.com/isteve/nyt-celebrates-vt-day-in-world-war-t/#comment-1008860

    Now remember what is was like to be a child, not just the joys but the pains as well???

    How traumatic it was to be rejected by your peer group not to mention the opposite sex even in elementary and middle school.

    Well now the far left is attempting to promote a delusion to children that will supposedly free them of all the emotional pain of growing up.

    The "Gender Marxist" answer for mildly narcissistic anxious children who are gender developmentally delayed/confused/nonconforming is that they are trapped in the wrong sex body. The medical establishment is hot to jump on board because their a gold mine to be reaped from wealthy guilt ridden lefty parents promoting lifelong "trans" treatments vs more conventional temporary therapies.

    Replies: @stillCARealist

    You’re right. The only solution is homeschooling. Get away from the bullies! Another bonus: no need for more psychiatrists.

  160. If Joe wakes up tomorrow believing that he is Napoleon, he will be placed on a powerful mix of drugs to make his delusions conform to reality.

    If Joe wakes up tomorrow believing that he is Josephine, he will be placed on a powerful mix of drugs to make reality conform to his delusions.

  161. @Brother John
    So, OJ's famous ride started off at a guy's house whose widow married a man who's now a woman, and was filmed from a helicopter by two men who are also now women.

    Huh.

    History and its connections, huh? How about that. James Burke would be proud.

    Replies: @TB2

    Only if he could tie it to the making of . . . the ATOMIC BOMB!

  162. @Gunnar von Cowtown

    O.J., whose father was a transvestite...
     
    Wait... what?!?

    Replies: @Father O'Hara

    Marvin Gaye’s dad also liked ladies clothing. I believe he was wearing pantyhose when he shot Marvin. Were they riding up??

  163. @anonymous-antimarxist
    @e

    The peculiar nature of autogynephilia is that it tends to only afflict men who up till middle age were successful alpha status, sexually active, if not over sexed, males.

    Name another infectious decease or environmental factor that is so very very selective on who affects???

    Autogynephillia may certainly have a genetic component, but it seems to be primarily a narcissistic mental delusion. And Lord knows we have no shortage of delusions around that are most common to specific sub-populations and are culturally informed.

    Science fiction geeks when under extreme mental duress believe they have been abducted by "Aliens" and been subjected to "anal probing".

    Under the pressure of life's ups and downs, Christians believe they have seen Jesus. Muslims are told by Allah to go on Jihad.

    Anxiety riddled Jews are certain that they seeing antisemitism everywhere.

    Michael Shermer's book "The Believing Brain" is really good on just how commonplace and yet specific mental delusions are.

    Ultra masculine men, who have been use to being able to have access to just about any female they desire and being recognized as being at the top of their professions, are vulnerable to a specific delusion during the middle life crisis that all men go through that their diminishing alpha dog status is due the fact they are a woman trapped in a man's body. Once they have undergone their transformation to a female however it will be once again clearly obvious just how amazing and attractive they truly are. And nobody, under the threat of abuse or worse if necessary, will be able to deny it!!!

    Remember how painful being rejected by females was when you were a skinny teenager???

    Now what if your whole life you have been rarely if ever rejected. Your career had been one greater achievement after another. You have been use to a life of bedding dozens of very very attractive and ever younger women. Suddenly, you find yourself, divorced, your ex-wives were sick of your infidelities, and that that younger women you so badly desire and are addicted to to sooth your emotional pain are now not only no longer enthralled with your alpha male status but see you as a just creepy old man their father's age. Add on top of that the other signs of middle age, a bulging waistline, hair loss, wriggles, fatigue, loss of sexual desire and stamina..... you have the makings of a first class mental breakdown.

    Is it not more likely that this sort of extreme midlife mental breakdown leads to the embracing of the delusion of autogynephillia????

    Replies: @e, @Inquiring Mind, @Father O'Hara

    yes I imagine for men like those it must be terribly hard to deal with “wriggles”…

  164. @Romanian
    @Anon

    You win the thread!

    Replies: @Anonymous

    You win the thread!

    Except for the “white males are now a bunch of castrated dorks who worship homosexuals and act like them too” bit. Such a blanket denunciation is neither warranted nor helpful.

  165. @stillCARealist
    @carol

    carol, do you think it's easier for a man to act like a woman, and get away with it, or for a woman to act like a man?

    I'd say women can be more manly and nobody cares much, but a man being quite effeminate can be disturbing. Even in our enlightened age.

    Man-ness is more prized and precious, and perhaps fragile.

    Keep it safe, guys!

    Replies: @carol, @dcite

    “Manliness” is more prized, precious and fragile?
    Which sex is the more natural narcissist I wonder..
    Not that there’s anything wrong with that.

  166. @syonredux
    America wins the Mathematics Olympiad for the first time in 21 years.Odd, I'm not seeing much in the way of Hispanic Mestizo/Amerind representation on the team....


    http://www.npr.org/2015/07/18/424122249/theyre-no-1-u-s-wins-math-olympiad-for-first-time-in-21-years

    Replies: @Jus' Sayin'..., @Romanian, @Jefferson, @Kenny

    You may want to look at the IMO Gold medalists this year, chump. 🙂

    See Page 2:

  167. @e
    @anonymous-antimarxist

    As for it not affecting them until middle age? How do you know that? For all we know (and I think Jenner pointed this out), they were waiting for their family to leave the house when they were little boys, then running into Sis's room to try on her clothes. Social convention meant they kept their little secret to themselves.

    On the other had, anorexia nervosa doesn't strike until the teens or in one's twenties.

    Deleterious effects from chronic infections often don't rear their head until late in life, one of the most common being cancers caused by HPV.

    Point is...mental illness has a biological cause.

    Replies: @Ozymandias

    “Point is…mental illness has a biological cause.”

    A sweeping statement with little basis in reality. Certainly there are some mental illnesses that are entirely biological, but most are a combination of nature AND nurture. Usually, these two mechanisms reinforce each other.

  168. @Anonymous
    OT:

    A new Tessa Kum?
    https://www.unz.com/isteve/the-media-heroine-of-the-australian-counterbacklash-has-some-issues/

    A Sudanese immigrant to Australia whom Jimmy Fallon called one of the world's worst rappers is being praised by the Australia media. Even though his music is objectively terrible, the National Media of Australia can't get enough of him -- because he's black.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5fl37GhKAow

    Like Tessa Kum, he has a very "problematic" history of posting things onto the internet. He likes to refer to the scores of white women he beds as "white bitches".
    http://imgur.com/U1ttPUG

    But because he is a black immigrant to Australia, he get's a pass on his racist and sexist tweets.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    He likes to refer to the scores of white women he beds

    PPOR.

  169. We have (or at least, we had) strictly-enforced societal taboos because, without them, there are always one too many men out there who’ll go “what the hell”, and satiate themselves defiling said taboo. It’s largely a male thing, and though any fire-and-brimstone fundie might explain it just as easily, Wells’ Dr Moreau would cut quickest to the chase – it’s the beast-flesh, creeping back to the fore without the ominous presence of the House of Pain to compel civility.

    Put another way – you think headlines like this one about the chopper pilots are nauseatingly surreal? Just wait 20 years – after they mysteriously start calling pedophilia something else all the time, right before they legalize it. Then you’ll see some bizarro headlines! And only Lord knows what sort of “party favors” you’d be sued into penury for failing to provide.

  170. OT : street art goes up in LA calling for Hollywood Jews to change sides

    http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/obama-hollywood-jews-targeted-by-811143

  171. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Kevin O'Keeffe
    @Former Darfur

    "In military jets you can eject. In rotary wing you don’t even have a parachute because in an uncontrolled helo you couldn’t bail out without getting chopped to bits by the rotor.

    This weighs on the helo guys a lot and makes them pretty fatalistic."

    It seems to this layman, that some sort of lateral ejection system, could be developed for helicopter pilots.

    Replies: @Truth, @Anonymous

    From the navy side all pilots started out in fixed-wing aircraft. Those who learned the fastest and the best were sent to jets (with some slop for current needs in respective communities). I’m living proof that you can pretty much teach even a dog to fly but the navy wants it done yesterday and are very focused on time/cost to train.

    I recall a marine classmate who was very morose when he was denied his first, second, and third choice and was instead sent off to jet school.

    As to the no-bailout factor; it didn’t bother me much over water but over trees and mountains I tried to think about something else.

  172. @Stan D Mute
    @Veracitor


    I’m glad Bruce Wayne and Francis Gary Powers never became trannies (or at least not in public!).
     
    Don't count them out yet. Heimdall and Nick Fury were Africanized. Now that trannys are the coolest freaks on the tube, Bruce Wayne may well become Brenda Wayne and Francis only needs lose his middle name in the herstory books (ie Wikipedia).

    Replies: @Veracitor

    Your interpretation is funnier than mine, but actually I was referring to the late solo-flying-reporter pilot, KFI’s Eye In The Sky, Bruce Wayne. It’s an L.A. reference, as with the late flying reporter and erstwhile U-2 spy pilot Francis Gary Powers.

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