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From the Boston Globe opinion page, here’s Ibram X. Kendi illustrating my new Taki’s Magazine column about the triumph of Ibram X. Kendiism:

There’s something wrong with the exam school tests — not with Black and Latinx children

To tell the truth about standardized tests is to tell the story of the eugenicists who created and popularized these tests in the United States more than a century ago.

By Ibram X. Kendi Updated October 22, 2020, 6:46 p.m.

Ibram X. Kendi is the Andrew W. Mellon Professor in the Humanities at Boston University, director of BU’s Center for Antiracist Research, and author of “How to Be an Antiracist.”

Jack Dorsey, Twitter supremo, recently gave Kendi $10 million.

This is an abridged version of a public statement read at the School Committee meeting on Wednesday in support of suspending the test for Boston’s three exam schools.

Boston Latin School is the most famous of Boston’s three exam schools. It is a public exam school for grades 7 to 12. It was founded 385 years ago. Graduates include Samuel Adams, Charles Francis Adams Sr. and Jr., Leonard Bernstein, Charles Eliot, Ralph Waldo Emerson, John F. “Honey Fitz” Fitzgerald, John Hancock, Cotton Mather, and George Santayana. Dropouts include Louis Farrakhan and Benjamin Franklin.

Latin remains mandatory at Boston Latin.

Boston Latin’s student body is 46% white compared to 45% of the population of the city of Boston, 29% Asian compared to 10% of the population, 13% Hispanic vs. 20%, and 8% black vs. 25% of the city. Unlike at test-only Stuyvesant and Thomas Jefferson, students are admitted on a combination of grades and test scores, so blacks and Hispanics aren’t as shut out and Asians aren’t as dominant at Boston Latin because it’s pretty easy to get straight A’s at a school with mostly bad students.

What is always best for the community is admission policies that create equal opportunity for all. And we know a policy is creating more equal opportunity — and thereby is antiracist — if it is closing racial and economic inequity. The data is indisputable on the effects of this plan: It will close the racial and economic under-representation at Boston’s three exam schools. And so, I urge you to approve this antiracist proposal.

This is not about me or my child. My wife and I have the resources to one day sign her up for an expensive test-prep course, or hire a test-prep consultant. All the test prep will end up being money well spent: It will have boosted her score to get into an exam school.

All the while, I’ll come here and tell you she worked hard and she’s so smart. I won’t tell you I took advantage of the multibillion-dollar test prep industry. I won’t tell you that across the United States test prep companies and consultants are concentrated in white and Asian neighborhoods. Because we’re not supposed to talk about all this. We’re not supposed to be talking about the fact that all Boston children do not have equal access to high-quality test preparation — and it’s impossible to create equal access. We’re not supposed to talk about all this legal cheating.

It is like allowing certain NFL teams more time to practice in the off-season and, when those teams regularly win the Super Bowl, somehow claiming the rules are fair. And when you try to take away the practice advantage from those winning teams, they are going to resist. They are going to claim their teams are the best; all the while they’ll know privately, they were legally cheating.

This is the elephant in the room that the people claiming the standardized test is fair do not want to discuss. They will claim white and Asian kids on average score higher on tests because they are smarter or work harder. Meaning Black and Latinx kids are not as smart or not as hard-working. Meaning white and Asian kids are superior. And all these racist ideas from people claiming they are not racist. …

And to tell the truth about standardized tests is to tell the story of the eugenicists who created and popularized these tests in the United States more than a century ago. Stanford University psychologist and eugenicist Lewis Terman introduced and defended the viability of the nation’s first popular standardized intelligence test in his 1916 book “The Measurement of Intelligence.”

After all, what has the Terman family ever done for Silicon Valley?

These “experimental” tests will show “enormously significant racial differences in general intelligence, differences which cannot be wiped out by any scheme of mental culture,” Terman maintained.

In truth, racial differences in test scores are highly malleable, as this graph shows:

As you can see, there’s been a radical reshuffling in the top rank of races over the last 40 years, with Asians becoming hugely dominant. Which proves cognitive testing is just a giant White Supremacist conspiracy.

By the 1960s, genetic explanations had largely been discredited. Since then, lower test scores from Black and Latinx students have been explained by their environment: Their supposedly broken cultures, homes, schools, and families have made them intellectually inferior. Standardized tests have become the most effective racist weapon ever devised to objectively degrade Black and brown minds and legally exclude their bodies.

But don’t forget FBI crime statistics.

Why do Black and Latinx children routinely get lower scores on the standardized tests? Either there’s something wrong with the test takers or there’s something wrong with the tests. Why are Black and Latinx children routinely under-represented in the exam schools? Either there’s something wrong with Black and Latinx children or there’s something wrong with Boston’s admissions policies.

There’s something wrong with the test and the admissions policies. And to say there’s something wrong with Black and Latinx children is to espouse racist ideas. And those who say racist ideas, typically deny their ideas are racist. …

As I pointed out in my Taki’s column, Kendi keeps making this argument and keeps winning because nobody respectable dares contradict his argument.

 
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  1. As I pointed out in my Taki’s column, Kendi keeps making this argument and keeps winning because nobody respectable dares contradict his argument.

    If the goal is get black people off the white teat, then why remind them how much they’re drinking? If they think they would be better off without whites, and we think they would be better off without blacks, then why not just give each side what they want? What’s the point of making them see how desperately dependent they are on whites?

    • Replies: @Drew
    @Guy De Champlagne

    It's an interesting two-step, that's for sure. These people tell black people they don't need whitey and at the same time tell whitey we should take care better care of blacks. I'm probably crazy for thinking this way, but it seems to me it would be simpler to say that there is a social hierarchy of sorts and that those at the top should make sure those below are treated fairly and cared for, while those below ought to obey those at the top and express gratitude for the care they receive from their superiors. Keep in mind though, that I prefer authoritarian, hierarchical social order to democratic, egalitarian social order because the former seems to track more closely to reality.

  2. Anonymous[270] • Disclaimer says:

    As I pointed out in my Taki’s column, Kendi keeps making this argument and keeps winning because nobody respectable dares contradict his argument.

    The “respectable” class is composed of urban liberals who are either childless or wealthy and connected and send their kids to private and boarding schools. Thus they would never contradict this argument. While the kind of people that would aren’t considered “respectable”.

  3. The data is indisputable…

    Well, we know Kendi didn’t excel at Latin.

    Why do Black and Latinx children…

    Or Spanish.

    Also, racial identifiers such as black aren’t capitalized in English. So Ibram Stoker vampirizes three languages in one rant.

    Hey, why not add some mangled Pequot or Penibscot? Better yet, just mention Bĕijīng, which not one American in fifty can pronounce. I sure can’t, which is why I use the English– Peking.

    • Agree: 36 ulster
    • Replies: @El Dato
    @Reg Cæsar

    Actually "the data is" is correct. Weirdly.

    Is data singular or plural?: Usage Guide


    Data leads a life of its own quite independent of datum, of which it was originally the plural. It occurs in two constructions: as a plural noun (like earnings), taking a plural verb and plural modifiers (such as these, many, a few) but not cardinal numbers, and serving as a referent for plural pronouns (such as they, them); and as an abstract mass noun (like information), taking a singular verb and singular modifiers (such as this, much, little), and being referred to by a singular pronoun (it). Both constructions are standard. The plural construction is more common in print, evidently because the house style of several publishers mandates it.
     
    That's not a recent woke update.
    , @Guy De Champlagne
    @Reg Cæsar

    The correct form of the English language is ultimately determined by the usage of the elite media and elite universities. So in addition to looking like a pathetic pissant pedant, you're propping up your enemies and at best counting down to that pedantry's obsolescence. Sad!

    Replies: @RichardTaylor, @Reg Cæsar, @MBlanc46

    , @MBlanc46
    @Reg Cæsar

    OK, reg, you beat me to it.

  4. Standardized tests have become the most effective racist weapon ever devised to objectively degrade Black and brown minds and legally exclude their bodies.

    Well I’d say that’s pretty conclusive there. Tests are a racist weapon devised to legally exclude bodies. So, henceforth no more tests of any kind, anywhere. Especially paternity tests which have one hell of a disparate impact problem. Btw, why is the word “brown” not capitalized? Is Kenji tryna exclude brown bodies? I’d say he gots some ‘splaining to do.

    • Replies: @MEH 0910
    @Mike Pierson, Davenport Rector, Midfielder


    Btw, why is the word “brown” not capitalized? Is Kenji tryna exclude brown bodies? I’d say he gots some ‘splaining to do.
     
    https://www.nytco.com/press/uppercasing-black/

    The term “brown” as a racial or ethnic description should also generally remain lowercase and should be used with care. “Brown” has been used to describe such a disparate range of people — Latin, Indigenous, Asian, Middle Eastern — that the meaning is often unclear to readers. A more specific description is generally best.
     
    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/05/insider/capitalized-black.html

    The Times also looked at whether to capitalize white and brown in reference to race, but both will remain lowercase. Brown has generally been used to describe a wide range of cultures, Mr. Baquet and Mr. Corbett said in their memo to staff. As a result, its meaning can be unclear to readers; white doesn’t represent a shared culture and history in the way Black does, and also has long been capitalized by hate groups.
     
    , @AliNoNo
    @Mike Pierson, Davenport Rector, Midfielder

    "It is like allowing certain NFL teams more time to practice in the off-season and, when those teams regularly win the Super Bowl, somehow claiming the rules are fair."
    ----------------This is often mentioned, but just how is it that Blacks make up by far the majority of players in the NFL and NBA, even though they're 13 percent of the population. Is athletic ability evenly distributed across races and ethnic groups? To have a professional sports career, I'd guess that there's a selection process based on ability. Does he think that process is "racist"? Why should it be any different for intellectual pursuits?

    https://www.questia.com/library/journal/1G1-20383239/racial-composition-of-nba-nfl-and-mlb-teams-and

    , @James O'Meara
    @Mike Pierson, Davenport Rector, Midfielder

    "Well I’d say that’s pretty conclusive there. Tests are a racist weapon devised to legally exclude bodies. So, henceforth no more tests of any kind, anywhere."

    I predict (tho in an environment where one constantly hears "not the Onion" prediction is as easy as imagining the stupidest outcome) that this will next be deployed against laws. The disproportionate number of black convicts proves laws are designed to legally incarcerate black bodies.

  5. His logic is absolutely perfect, regardless of if you believe the conventional wisdom. Either the tests are racist or reality is. His idiotic savantness(?) lies in forcing people to take a direct stand on that question.

    • Replies: @Pop Warner
    @Moral Stone

    He's almost daring people to disagree with him by dangling the race realist argument (in crude terms) to let anyone who takes the bait get crushed for heresy. Either he truly believes that genes are irrelevant and pushing that position without irony or he's well aware and having fun with his power

    , @Hannah Katz
    @Moral Stone

    Reminds me of a project back in the 70s where some well meaning liberals had black educators put together a test to measure intelligence, based on the black experience, etc. Unfortunately, the white kids beat the black kids even worse than on the standard tests. So the left chastised the well meaning liberals for being racists. Too funny.

  6. Look, just get rid of elite colleges and high schools. Come up with a vanilla form of online learning that hands you a number based on what you achieve. Let everyone acquire as much learning as they can and put a number to it. Then sue the companies when they won’t hire you with a low number. See how that goes

    • Replies: @Guy De Champlagne
    @JimB

    It's one thing to get rid of elite brand names. But it's not a good idea to get rid of elite classes, where high performers are given appropriate material and matched with other high performers. And why move everything to online classes? And why should a company be forced to hire you because you can prove knowledge about something that doesn't have anything to do with job performance?

    Replies: @JimB

  7. Many in the HBD sphere, including our blog host, wouldn’t have predicted that Asians would pull away as they have. I don’t think anyone would have predicted a divergence b/n Asians and all other races, certainly not of this magnitude over such a short span.

    So, what’s going on?

    • Replies: @IHTG
    @Jason y

    Something that might be worth checking is if there's any subset of whites that have taken off in a similar fashion.

    , @Ganderson
    @Jason y

    Cheating comes immediately to mind...

    , @Dratmes
    @Jason y

    Chinese immigrants are not picked out of a rice field randomly. China can spare a few million bright people in order to (A) displace less robotic American students, (B) drive down tech wages and thereby discourage Americans from entering STEM, (C) get access to American innovations, and (D) establish a second alien market dominant minority within the U.S. that despises us and can be counted upon look out for their homelands' interests. China does not send people here to make America stronger.

    BTW, Koreans don't like us either.

    , @Anonymous Jew
    @Jason y

    If (Fancy) Asian adoptees slightly outscore Whites, positively selected Asians should do far better. No surprise there. We might also be seeing some dysgenic effects with Whites (loosing a couple IQ points each generation or so). So Whites lose a few IQ points, the Asians here are positively selected, and what should be a small IQ difference suddenly becomes more significant.

  8. We should never lose sight of what standardized tests are supposed to be measuring. I think schools should admit people based on a reasoned estimate of future academic performance. If the tests are over or under predicting performance for certain groups then they should be adjusted to reflect that. But tests tend to over predict black and latinx [sic?] academic performance because grades are more responsive to work than tests, and so tests are biased in favor of (overpredict the performance of) groups, like blacks and boys, who don’t put in the hours that other groups do.

    But the important thing is that jobs need a new, up to date estimate of someones future performance at their actual job. Locking someone in based on their 17-year-old self’s academic performance is sadistic and insane.

    • Replies: @Drew
    @Guy De Champlagne

    "But the important thing is that jobs need a new, up to date estimate of someones future performance at their actual job. Locking someone in based on their 17-year-old self’s academic performance is sadistic and insane."

    You should read Nassim Taleb's critique of IQ fetishization. He makes a lot of good points, but one of the critical points is that, at a certain threshold (IIRC, the 30th or 35th percentile) IQ scores just aren't predictive of career success or failure, as measured by income. The reason being that high-payimg jobs require a suite of traits, of which intelligence is one.

    This certainly tracks with my personal experience, as I'm one of four brothers, all of whom are if roughly equal intelligence. However, there is quite a bit of variance in our income and net wealth, as well as educational attainment. My youngest brother, for example, has the lowest educational attainment but the highest net wealth while the second youngest has the highest educational attainment but a negative net worth (he's the only one with student loans, and they're massive, plus he works the lowest paying jobs of all of us). I have the highest net income, went to school on a full ride, but do manual labor. My point is simply that that once you reach a certain threshold of intelligence, your success is determined more by drive, opportunity, and conscientiousness than by intelligence, so riding that metric turns into a fools errand at a certain point.

    , @anon
    @Guy De Champlagne

    We should never lose sight of what standardized tests are supposed to be measuring.

    Just as we should never lose sight of what shills and trolls are supposed to be doing in comments sections?

    But the important thing is that jobs need a new, up to date estimate of someones future performance at their actual job.

    Whoever creates such a novel, never-before-seen thing will become very rich.
    You should work on that! Totally work on that continuously!

    Locking someone in based on their 17-year-old self’s academic performance is sadistic and insane.

    https://blacklabellogic.files.wordpress.com/2016/03/strawman.jpg

  9. If it were announced that the entrance exam would consist of a candidate’s wind-unaided time in the 100m dash, White parents would be speed-dialing their lawyers.

    The darn cell network would crash.

    [MORE]

    I am so sick and tired of getting dragged into other people’s fights over the tax pie.

    Where I live, there are signs all over the place — school fronts included — reminding voters to support the local school tax measure.

    Meanwhile, in NM, voters are being asked to support Bond Question C ($156M in school related bonds). Naturally, the fellow who has written the ballot argument in favor is a GOP, elected official.

    • Replies: @fish
    @Abolish_public_education

    If it were announced that the entrance exam would consist of a candidate’s wind-unaided time in the 100m dash, White parents would be speed-dialing their lawyers.


    .....and if the qualifiying trials were indicative of the eventual success of the applicant then those white parents would be wasting their time in foolish effort.

    Why not just give black students diplomas from America’s prestigious high schools and Universities and let employers sort it out later? From what I’ve seen lil Philander jr and Naquisha have next to zero interest in education but are really, really status conscious!

    Hey who wants a diploma from Shitavious Jr. Memorial HS when Lowell or Thomas Jefferson has so much more cachet?


    Society would figure out eventually to discount these documents and those presenting them.

  10. • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Anonymous

    Thanks.

  11. @JimB
    Look, just get rid of elite colleges and high schools. Come up with a vanilla form of online learning that hands you a number based on what you achieve. Let everyone acquire as much learning as they can and put a number to it. Then sue the companies when they won’t hire you with a low number. See how that goes

    Replies: @Guy De Champlagne

    It’s one thing to get rid of elite brand names. But it’s not a good idea to get rid of elite classes, where high performers are given appropriate material and matched with other high performers. And why move everything to online classes? And why should a company be forced to hire you because you can prove knowledge about something that doesn’t have anything to do with job performance?

    • Replies: @JimB
    @Guy De Champlagne


    But it’s not a good idea to get rid of elite classes, where high performers are given appropriate material and matched with other high performers
     
    I disagree. You can be matched with high achievers through Skype and Zoom; get together and solve math problems. But you should spend much of your life in contact with both sides of the bell curve. Otherwise, you will turn into an obnoxious jerk without empathy for your fellow man.
  12. Anon[329] • Disclaimer says:

    OT: In San Bernardino, Antifa/BLM punches an Hispanic woman in the face as she drives past and keys her car.

    Another driver had his car keyed at the same protest:

    Amusingly, Portland’s Archbishop held an exorcism to cast out the demons of violence. Not sure the demons inside all those Antifa trannies are listening.

    https://www.koin.com/news/special-reports/a-portland-exorcism-archbishop-prays-evil-away-after-months-of-unrest/

    • Replies: @El Dato
    @Anon

    Until they meet a mexican gang transport, then it's all over and the MSM mourning of rejects will reach a crescendo ... again (maybe that's what organizers are counting on?)

    But in any case, the future is full of keyed cars.

    , @Papinian
    @Anon

    Tolstoy includes a crossdressing male character in book 3 of War and Peace He calls the character (who uses the feminine patronymic and dresses in women's clothes) "the buffoon". All the buffoon ever does is say rude things to people. Every single time!

    , @Fidelios Automata
    @Anon

    But racism by blacks isn't racism, right?

  13. Let me see if I understand this. The State dictates what they want the kids to learn and provides text books to the schools then tests them to see if they learn it. The teachers they hire are to teach according to a set of guidelines and a curriculum that the State mandates they use. So the kids, no matter their color, ses, knowledge of English, or anything, listen to the teachers, take tests, and have a huge gap in the scoring. All things being equal, it comes down to the kids, parents, and the kids conduct and behavior.

  14. Meanwhile, this is why you can’t rent a boat in Lake Arrowhead anymore…

  15. I hereby humbly request “X consistency”:

    Latino = Latinx
    Blacks = Blax
    POC = Pox
    Chinese = Chinx

  16. The 10’000th episode in “Blackskinner with Microsoft Word and Grammarly demands that masta give him free stuff that the universe says NO about, ore he be angry. Denying it is eugenics.”

    Standardized tests have become the most effective racist weapon ever devised to objectively degrade Black and brown minds and legally exclude their bodies.

    “Denying it also raciss.”

    We’re not supposed to be talking about the fact that all Boston children do not have equal access to high-quality test preparation — and it’s impossible to create equal access.

    How much “high-quality test preparation” do you really need for an effing *SAT*? It’s not hard. Just put in the work – or at least work towards putting in the work. That’s actually part of the test.

    And anyone who uses “Latinx” unironically is basically an extra in “Idiocracy II: Woke Capital.”

    Btw, Tintin in Congo was pretty nasty but had a good attitude regarding classrooms:

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @El Dato


    Btw, Tintin in Congo was pretty nasty but had a good attitude regarding classrooms:
     
    But not about demographics-- "...your country: Belgium", indeed.

    Tintin deserves to be raped by Pim Fortuyn for that one!

    Replies: @El Dato

  17. Anonymous[406] • Disclaimer says:

    We are living in a Weimar period of American history. The parallels are everywhere:

    The Jews are ascendant.

    Christianity is in decline. Cultural traditions are questioned.

    Wacky “intellectuals” are promoted by a degenerate media.

    Music Art and Literature have little shelf life.

    The currency is debased by crazed central bankers.

    Leftist street violence is gradually met by rightist pushback.

    Etc.

  18. It is possible to draw a direct line from Karl Marx’s labor theory of value to Ibrahim X. Kendi’s demands, with suitable amendments for the modern, service oriented economy.

    For Marx, the maxim for labor was “From each according to his ability, to each according to his need”, with the people in the form of the socialist state owning the other factors of production, land and capital (i.e. fixed assets, factories etc.)

    In the Kendi way of thinking (and a whole generational phalanx in academia), jobs are the means of production and the generation of wealth, and these should be allocated, not according to ability, but proportionately, to the various identity groups in society (which supersede economic classes, in BLM and social justice thinking.)

    Of course, the proportions need to be adjusted suitably upwards for POC as a means of reparation for “historical injustices.”

    To these people, once we break away from thinking of an economy and society optimized and tuned to merit, but instead hand out jobs based on spreading them around racially, then income and wealth will get spread around, too, and all will be happy and sustainable in the long haul.

    Of course, economic output may take a hit and be sub-optimal relative to a merit based economy, but we will be living in a more just and decent society.

    Marxism, of course, was the ur-gibsmedat. It is easy to laugh at people like Xendi as unsophisticated and dishonest charlatans, but a lot of people (who have no training in economics) appear to be signing up for his line of thinking because of the “intellectual” foundations. Many of them, at least thus far, have been academics. But they have also trained perhaps a decade-wide cohort of college graduates who have now entered the workforce and public life.

    Absent the overt 1930s rhetoric about world socialism and the Comintern and all that, I think all this has largely flown below the radar and taken hold, without much of the old political opprobrium that used to attach itself to people who tried to openly profess Marxism in America in earlier decades.

    Somewhere, Angela Davis is smiling. Herbert Marcuse’s younger acolytes have accomplished what she and her generation never could.

    Almost all older white politicians, even on the left, are completely oblivious to what’s been going on, and think that these are merely simply calls for racial justice sparked by a few incidents in the news.

    We being told to always remember that to admire merit is to oppress those without merit or skills, permanently, at the pain of being labeled racists, if we fail to do so.

    It’s going to be a long, long slog to get America’s value system back on the rails.

    • Agree: NickG, ic1000
    • Disagree: Guy De Champlagne
    • Thanks: El Dato, Achmed E. Newman
    • Replies: @Guy De Champlagne
    @PiltdownMan

    Except that Kendi and BLM are supported by oligarch's and huge corporations and are only advocating for equality between racial groups not among them and, despite some meaningless rhetoric suggesting the opposite, are actually working to increase overall economic inequality?

    So yeah, it's just like Marxism if you took away all the stuff in marxism that rich people and huge corporations are opposed to and that actually advocates for economic equality. What is with you people?

    Almost all older white politicians, even on the left, are completely oblivious to what’s been going on, and think that these are merely simply calls for racial justice sparked by a few incidents in the news.

    As though your comment could be anything other than the product of calcified dotardly brain unable to see past conflicts that ended decades ago. You're a real hip, young, rational guy undermining the last generations conventional wisdom. Right.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Rob

    , @Hypnotoad666
    @PiltdownMan

    There are definitely parallels between the rhetoric and ethos of identity politics and Marxism. But the two things often look very different, too.

    Partly, this is because so much of wokeism is currently directed at black participation in elitism. For example, creating black professors or bankers through various affirmative action grifts. That doesn't map very well to Marxist theory.

    It would be as if Lenin didn't want to overthrow capitalism, but instead just wanted workers and peasants to be set up as the new capitalists.

    Replies: @El Dato, @nebulafox

  19. @Reg Cæsar

    The data is indisputable...
     
    Well, we know Kendi didn't excel at Latin.

    Why do Black and Latinx children...
     
    Or Spanish.

    Also, racial identifiers such as black aren't capitalized in English. So Ibram Stoker vampirizes three languages in one rant.

    Hey, why not add some mangled Pequot or Penibscot? Better yet, just mention Bĕijīng, which not one American in fifty can pronounce. I sure can't, which is why I use the English-- Peking.

    Replies: @El Dato, @Guy De Champlagne, @MBlanc46

    Actually “the data is” is correct. Weirdly.

    Is data singular or plural?: Usage Guide

    Data leads a life of its own quite independent of datum, of which it was originally the plural. It occurs in two constructions: as a plural noun (like earnings), taking a plural verb and plural modifiers (such as these, many, a few) but not cardinal numbers, and serving as a referent for plural pronouns (such as they, them); and as an abstract mass noun (like information), taking a singular verb and singular modifiers (such as this, much, little), and being referred to by a singular pronoun (it). Both constructions are standard. The plural construction is more common in print, evidently because the house style of several publishers mandates it.

    That’s not a recent woke update.

    • Thanks: Dissident
  20. @Anonymous
    Meanwhile, this is why you can’t rent a boat in Lake Arrowhead anymore...

    https://twitter.com/stillgray/status/1319837748228837377?s=20

    Replies: @El Dato

  21. Kendi keeps making this argument and keeps winning because nobody respectable dares contradict his argument

    If Upper Classs, who knew better, had allied themselves with loathsome, lowbrow, White working class people 60 years ago, none of this would have happened.

    But they went “moderate”. They wanted to be Good Doggies who moved into the modern world with forced integration. What we see now is just logic working its way out.

    And so you’ll get to die alone in some ICU because an affirmative action Latinx didn’t wash her hands.

    Bravo Smart People Near the Canadian Border!

  22. I’ve never known a single white person whose parents bought them any test preparation materials or hired tutors. I’ve always scored in the 90th+ percentile of standardized test takers, despite the fact that I’ve never had access to any of the tutors or test prep books we all supposedly have.

    Got any more excuses, Ibram X?

    By the way, Ibram X Kendi’s books are available for free on Library Genesis. Just thought I’d mention that here.

    • Replies: @Some Guy
    @anon215

    And it's not like people hire test prep for every school exam or for IQ tests, for which the gap also exists.

  23. @El Dato
    The 10'000th episode in "Blackskinner with Microsoft Word and Grammarly demands that masta give him free stuff that the universe says NO about, ore he be angry. Denying it is eugenics."

    Standardized tests have become the most effective racist weapon ever devised to objectively degrade Black and brown minds and legally exclude their bodies.
     
    "Denying it also raciss."

    We’re not supposed to be talking about the fact that all Boston children do not have equal access to high-quality test preparation — and it’s impossible to create equal access.
     
    How much "high-quality test preparation" do you really need for an effing *SAT*? It's not hard. Just put in the work - or at least work towards putting in the work. That's actually part of the test.

    And anyone who uses "Latinx" unironically is basically an extra in "Idiocracy II: Woke Capital."

    Btw, Tintin in Congo was pretty nasty but had a good attitude regarding classrooms:

    https://i.postimg.cc/6qJqyVRm/Tintin-in-Belgian-Congo.png

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    Btw, Tintin in Congo was pretty nasty but had a good attitude regarding classrooms:

    But not about demographics– “…your country: Belgium”, indeed.

    Tintin deserves to be raped by Pim Fortuyn for that one!

    • Agree: Redneck farmer
    • Replies: @El Dato
    @Reg Cæsar

    Well it was of course "Your managing country (but you guys stay here)", a bit as if you told a Manchurian "Your country, Nihon".

    And somehow Congo-Brazzaville was managed under personal responsibility of The King of Belgium, not by Belgium, which is really peculiar.

    In the updated version (updated in the 50s?), he's teaching arithmetics:

    https://i.postimg.cc/TYC9j39C/Tintin-au-Congo.png

    Today, the answer is "whatever I want it to be".

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

  24. Why do Black and Latinx children routinely get lower scores on the standardized tests?

    According to Ron, Latinx are going to get IQs that are equal to the Anglo-White mean any day now…..

  25. Trying to read any amount of Ibram X. Kendi prose is like a season in hell.

    • Agree: throtler
  26. @Anonymous
    https://twitter.com/washingtonpost/status/1319690046992252929

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    Thanks.

  27. Once again, we see outcome and opportunity confused.

    • Agree: Dissident
  28. @Moral Stone
    His logic is absolutely perfect, regardless of if you believe the conventional wisdom. Either the tests are racist or reality is. His idiotic savantness(?) lies in forcing people to take a direct stand on that question.

    Replies: @Pop Warner, @Hannah Katz

    He’s almost daring people to disagree with him by dangling the race realist argument (in crude terms) to let anyone who takes the bait get crushed for heresy. Either he truly believes that genes are irrelevant and pushing that position without irony or he’s well aware and having fun with his power

  29. @Reg Cæsar

    The data is indisputable...
     
    Well, we know Kendi didn't excel at Latin.

    Why do Black and Latinx children...
     
    Or Spanish.

    Also, racial identifiers such as black aren't capitalized in English. So Ibram Stoker vampirizes three languages in one rant.

    Hey, why not add some mangled Pequot or Penibscot? Better yet, just mention Bĕijīng, which not one American in fifty can pronounce. I sure can't, which is why I use the English-- Peking.

    Replies: @El Dato, @Guy De Champlagne, @MBlanc46

    The correct form of the English language is ultimately determined by the usage of the elite media and elite universities. So in addition to looking like a pathetic pissant pedant, you’re propping up your enemies and at best counting down to that pedantry’s obsolescence. Sad!

    • Agree: RichardTaylor
    • Troll: PhysicistDave
    • Replies: @RichardTaylor
    @Guy De Champlagne

    Yes, 'data' can be considered a collective noun so it could take the singular. I used to hear it that way all the time. Yeah, being obsessed with crap like this is word based thinking, instead of fact based. It uses words as the base of reality, instead of using them as a handy cognitive tool.

    The same silly concept comes in when people use some dead language, like Latin or ancient Greek, to sound profound.

    Replies: @Guy De Champlagne, @Reg Cæsar

    , @Reg Cæsar
    @Guy De Champlagne


    The correct form of the English language is ultimately determined by the usage of the elite media and elite universities.
     
    We're talking about Ibram X Kendi here, not some long-departed élite. Where are Kendi right and I wrong?

    So in addition to looking like a pathetic pissant pedant
     
    I'm pointing out a crappy substandard intellectual's crappy substandard use of language. That's "pissant"? It all fits together. The guy can't write, and the guy can't think.

    And you and Mr Taylor come to this illiterate primitive's defense. That's what's pathetic.

    Replies: @Gary in Gramercy

    , @MBlanc46
    @Guy De Champlagne

    Just bugger off, Guy, eh?

  30. @PiltdownMan
    It is possible to draw a direct line from Karl Marx's labor theory of value to Ibrahim X. Kendi's demands, with suitable amendments for the modern, service oriented economy.

    For Marx, the maxim for labor was "From each according to his ability, to each according to his need", with the people in the form of the socialist state owning the other factors of production, land and capital (i.e. fixed assets, factories etc.)

    In the Kendi way of thinking (and a whole generational phalanx in academia), jobs are the means of production and the generation of wealth, and these should be allocated, not according to ability, but proportionately, to the various identity groups in society (which supersede economic classes, in BLM and social justice thinking.)

    Of course, the proportions need to be adjusted suitably upwards for POC as a means of reparation for "historical injustices."

    To these people, once we break away from thinking of an economy and society optimized and tuned to merit, but instead hand out jobs based on spreading them around racially, then income and wealth will get spread around, too, and all will be happy and sustainable in the long haul.

    Of course, economic output may take a hit and be sub-optimal relative to a merit based economy, but we will be living in a more just and decent society.

    Marxism, of course, was the ur-gibsmedat. It is easy to laugh at people like Xendi as unsophisticated and dishonest charlatans, but a lot of people (who have no training in economics) appear to be signing up for his line of thinking because of the "intellectual" foundations. Many of them, at least thus far, have been academics. But they have also trained perhaps a decade-wide cohort of college graduates who have now entered the workforce and public life.

    Absent the overt 1930s rhetoric about world socialism and the Comintern and all that, I think all this has largely flown below the radar and taken hold, without much of the old political opprobrium that used to attach itself to people who tried to openly profess Marxism in America in earlier decades.

    Somewhere, Angela Davis is smiling. Herbert Marcuse's younger acolytes have accomplished what she and her generation never could.

    Almost all older white politicians, even on the left, are completely oblivious to what's been going on, and think that these are merely simply calls for racial justice sparked by a few incidents in the news.

    We being told to always remember that to admire merit is to oppress those without merit or skills, permanently, at the pain of being labeled racists, if we fail to do so.

    It's going to be a long, long slog to get America's value system back on the rails.

    Replies: @Guy De Champlagne, @Hypnotoad666

    Except that Kendi and BLM are supported by oligarch’s and huge corporations and are only advocating for equality between racial groups not among them and, despite some meaningless rhetoric suggesting the opposite, are actually working to increase overall economic inequality?

    So yeah, it’s just like Marxism if you took away all the stuff in marxism that rich people and huge corporations are opposed to and that actually advocates for economic equality. What is with you people?

    Almost all older white politicians, even on the left, are completely oblivious to what’s been going on, and think that these are merely simply calls for racial justice sparked by a few incidents in the news.

    As though your comment could be anything other than the product of calcified dotardly brain unable to see past conflicts that ended decades ago. You’re a real hip, young, rational guy undermining the last generations conventional wisdom. Right.

    • Troll: PiltdownMan
    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Guy De Champlagne


    So yeah, it’s just like Marxism if you took away all the stuff in marxism that rich people and huge corporations are opposed to and that actually advocates for economic equality. What is with you people?
     
    It shares Marx's, and all leftists', desire for eternal unanswered power. The Left has merely discovered that race-baiting gets you there quicker than class-baiting. They know what they're doing.

    There is no betrayal of the original and ultimate goal. Just fine-tuning the tactics.

    Replies: @Peter Frost

    , @Rob
    @Guy De Champlagne

    In my limited undestanding, Cultural Marxism is only ‘marxist’ in that they are trying to tear out western civilization root and branch. In particular, cultural Marxist’s want to destroy families, as they are where gender inequality most dwells. The family is also the institution through which inequalities are passed on to the next generation. As long as families are a thing, some people will be raised with lots of social capital and others raised with none.

    The current Woktusl Marxism is not eve Cultural Marxism. It is the bastard child of Cultural Marxism that was adopted by a wealthy heiress, spoiled, and educated far past his ability. There is not really any room in cultural Marxism for the fantastically wealthy or the corporate executive caste. The self-flagellation of elites over their racial sins I don’t think has any precedent, because the US is in a unique situation. The elite is mostly white and heavily Jewish. Many in the professional managerial class and got there because they went to a good school. They went to a good school because they were smart, or a legacy, or an athlete. White Americans have largely accepted very high inequality because we think meritocracy is fair (enough). But whites are on the way out as the majority population. The new people have largely not accepted meritocracy as fair (enough). So how is a white elite going to maintain their legitimacy in a heavily non white America?

    They’re think that because they recognize white racism and their white privilege, the brown masses will accept them as an elite.

    There is also the matter race. In a sense, the US has had 2 classes of people:white and black. Note I did not say ‘economic class’. Those are just the categories into which an alien might sort Americans, Within the white class, working intelligently and hard tended to come with improvements in status. Within the black class, hard, intelligent work earned little reward for most blacks.

    In terms of race, cultural Marxism is about tearing down the barrier between the racial classes. It really is basically the American creed being actually applied. Think how you would view black people’s lot in life if you did not think hbd were true. Well, blacks aren’t stuck on the bottom in ghettoes that get worse every year because those are the natural results of blacks in modernity. Blacks aren’t on the bottom because they’re dumber.

    So blacks must be in their social position because something is holding them back. This something could be legacies of past racist behavior of whites that has been maintained through a system where cultural capital is passed along by families and the institutions are run for and by whites. That’s institutional racism. The other possibility is that blacks are held down by current racist actions of whites. This is where the self-flagellation of the elite comes in. Every white person is racist. I’ll prove it to you. Do you think there are any problems Black people have that is caused by blacks? Yea? Racist. Do you ever treat a black person differntly than you would treat a white person, even just once? Yes? Racist. This can go on, but you get the drift. Even if you personally have never done something racist, the legal system is de facto racist, because blacks have less money to hire lawyers, pay fines, etc. it must be racism, because the races are the same underneath some shallow cultural traits.

    So a new people is replacing an old one. The old elites would like to stay elites in of the new nation. They think the self-flagellation endears them to non-whites. They think it makes their status more secure. Time will tell...

    You’ll note I didn’t talk need income much in those paragra

  31. @anon215
    I've never known a single white person whose parents bought them any test preparation materials or hired tutors. I've always scored in the 90th+ percentile of standardized test takers, despite the fact that I've never had access to any of the tutors or test prep books we all supposedly have.

    Got any more excuses, Ibram X?

    By the way, Ibram X Kendi's books are available for free on Library Genesis. Just thought I'd mention that here.

    Replies: @Some Guy

    And it’s not like people hire test prep for every school exam or for IQ tests, for which the gap also exists.

  32. @Guy De Champlagne
    @Reg Cæsar

    The correct form of the English language is ultimately determined by the usage of the elite media and elite universities. So in addition to looking like a pathetic pissant pedant, you're propping up your enemies and at best counting down to that pedantry's obsolescence. Sad!

    Replies: @RichardTaylor, @Reg Cæsar, @MBlanc46

    Yes, ‘data’ can be considered a collective noun so it could take the singular. I used to hear it that way all the time. Yeah, being obsessed with crap like this is word based thinking, instead of fact based. It uses words as the base of reality, instead of using them as a handy cognitive tool.

    The same silly concept comes in when people use some dead language, like Latin or ancient Greek, to sound profound.

    • Replies: @Guy De Champlagne
    @RichardTaylor

    Yeah, being obsessed with crap like this is word based thinking, instead of fact based. It uses words as the base of reality, instead of using them as a handy cognitive tool.

    Yes! And word's meanings are ultimately controlled by the cultural elite. It's why the standard conservative rhetoric on racism ("racism is horrible, but i'm not racist, and the US isn't racist") is so unforgivably stupid. Never give your opponents so much power over your own argument.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    , @Reg Cæsar
    @RichardTaylor


    The same silly concept comes in when people use some dead language, like Latin or ancient Greek, to sound profound.
     
    "Dead"? Tracy Lee Simmons on the Constitutional Convention:

    “These men had read and digested Polybius, Aristotle, and Cicero, and they used the ancient luminaries to frame and illustrate their ideas before the assembly…. These heated yet erudite debates, along with the Federalist Papers, fairly pullulate both with subtle classical allusions—with which Madison, Hamilton, and Jay assumed readers to be tolerably familiar—and direct references to the leagues—Amphictyonic, Achaean, Aetolian, Lycian—formed by the ancient Greeks in order to achieve political and physical security.”

    https://www.memoriapress.com/articles/classical-education-founding-fathers/


    Talk about hating white people...

    Replies: @RichardTaylor

  33. Anon[609] • Disclaimer says:

    This is not about me or my child. My wife and I have the resources to one day sign her up for an expensive test-prep course, or hire a test-prep consultant. All the test prep will end up being money well spent: It will have boosted her score to get into an exam school.

    All the while, I’ll come here and tell you she worked hard and she’s so smart. I won’t tell you I took advantage of the multibillion-dollar test prep industry.

    This was the point where I had to do a Google Images search on his presumably Jewish wife … but she’s black. So hahaha, let’s see how their kid does on standardized exams.

    The problem with blaming a test for being racist is that:

    — The obvious solution of making a non-racist test has never happened. Who leaves money on the table like that?

    — Every standardized test is racist by his standards, whether overtly cognitive in nature or supposedly achievement-measuring in nature.

    — Every other measure of anything that has any sort of cognitive component produces the same gap. There is a sort of quantum observer effect whereby any attempt to measure the genius of genius blacks ends up returning a result of dullness.

    It would be a great prank to get get a billionaire to set up a well-funded company to produce a non-racist test and hire only blacks, genuinely talented blacks at ludicrously high salaries for a 9-to-5 job that they cannot refuse even in the face of financial industry offers, but that are somehow end-loaded so they cannot quit midway. Have a documentary crew video everything that happens. Set a reasonable deadline for the first iteration of the test. Have a reasonably large number of representative kids take it, paying them a participation fee, that grows quickly based on score, to motivate them. Watch the whole enterprise unravel. Watch some of the employees blame others for unconscious race traitorism to the white patriarchy.

    The other possible prank would be to give free test prep to black students … except Mayor De Blasio already did that. What happened? That’s kind of shrouded in mystery. No announcement of results was ever made, but the most recent New York City exam school results were dismal for blacks. The data to some extent must be public. Time for a NY Post freedom of information lawsuit? Kendi already has the excuse prepared: “expensive test prep consultant.” If test prep is not expensive, or from a consultant, it just doesn’t have the magic juju. So the billionaire could hire at great expense test preppers who can prove that they prepped successful Asians, and have them prep blacks, who would be paid generously with an amount that grows quickly based on their scores. A variation would be to hire black test preppers.

    But no matter what there are always more excuses.

  34. Since Ibram X. Kendi has the answer to the problem, it can’t really be that hard in itself.

    This sentence is plausible in itself, too. So it makes sense to make Ibram X. Kendi bigger. He is the human sedative.

    The holy trinity of the problem-solving specialists consists now of Colson Whitehead, Ta-Nehishi Coates, and – Ibram X. Kendi. Two of them play a big role already as universally accepted explainers of Trumpism and systemic racism etc. here in the öh – quality – papers in Germany. Now I’m waiting for the arrival of the third of this holy trinity to spread the word of the gospel of equality of the oppressed (Blacks, Blacks, Aborigines, Amerindians, etc. (whatever..) and hatred (whites, Trump).

  35. @RichardTaylor
    @Guy De Champlagne

    Yes, 'data' can be considered a collective noun so it could take the singular. I used to hear it that way all the time. Yeah, being obsessed with crap like this is word based thinking, instead of fact based. It uses words as the base of reality, instead of using them as a handy cognitive tool.

    The same silly concept comes in when people use some dead language, like Latin or ancient Greek, to sound profound.

    Replies: @Guy De Champlagne, @Reg Cæsar

    Yeah, being obsessed with crap like this is word based thinking, instead of fact based. It uses words as the base of reality, instead of using them as a handy cognitive tool.

    Yes! And word’s meanings are ultimately controlled by the cultural elite. It’s why the standard conservative rhetoric on racism (“racism is horrible, but i’m not racist, and the US isn’t racist”) is so unforgivably stupid. Never give your opponents so much power over your own argument.

    • Agree: RichardTaylor
    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Guy De Champlagne


    It’s why the standard conservative rhetoric on racism...
     
    "Racism" has never been a valid word, with a definite meaning. It's been slippery from the start. Same with "sexism" and, God save us, "homophobia". These are weapons, not words.

    At least democracy, republic, liberal, socialism, etc, actually meant something once, stretched out of recognition as they may be today.

    Replies: @Rob McX

  36. Anon[224] • Disclaimer says:

    Benjamin Franklin went to Boston Latin for a year or two to learn to read, but was yanked out when he had trouble with the “arithmetick.” Here’s an example of an 18th century arithmetic book:

    https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=TfJZAAAAcAAJ&dq=hodder%20arithmetick&pg=PP1#v=onepage&q&f=false

    And here:

    https://www.resourceaholic.com/2018/03/hodder1.html

    It’s not as broadly known as it should be, but Franklin was considered a major and serious scientist in many surprising areas during his life and for many decades thereafter. But his weakness was his lack of math chops.

    Franklin numerically documented many of his experiments, so I wonder if his weakness ultimately was the lack of higher mathematics.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Anon

    For a few years in the middle of the 18th Century, Franklin was just about the top physicist of electricity in the world. Of course it was easier in 1750 than in James Clerk Maxwell's day. Still, Franklin's invention of the lightning rod, an immense benefit to fire safety, derived from his figuring out the basics of electricity before just about anybody else. So, the lightning rod was kind of like Watt's improved steam engine: not just tinkering, but a scientific theory-enabled breakthrough.

    Replies: @syonredux

    , @nebulafox
    @Anon

    Da Vinci suffered from many of the same problems, as did Michael Faraday. But goddamn, were they skilled experimenters.

    In a way, learning from their brands of genius is more accessible than being gifted a brain beyond average comprehension like Newton, Maxwell, or Einstein were.

    , @syonredux
    @Anon

    Franklin's influence pops up all over the place in the 18th-early 19th centuries.
    for example, writing to Joseph Priestly in 1780, Franklin made a bold prophecy:


    It is impossible to imagine the height to which may be carried in a thousand years, the power of man over matter. We may perhaps learn to deprive large masses of their gravity, and give them absolute levity, for the sake of easy transport. Agriculture may diminish its labor and double its produce; all diseases may by sure means be prevented or cured, not excepting even that of old age, and our lives lengthened at pleasure even beyond the antediluvian standard.
     
    Indeed, Franklin would even go beyond this, and and state that” mind would one day become omnipotent over matter.”

    William Godwin was mesmerized by this phrase, and, in his Enquiry Concerning Political Justice, argues (citing Franklin) that one day Man would triumph over the “infirmities of our nature” (age, sleep, disease, melancholy, etc).

    As I noted upthread, Malthus was influenced by Franklin’s Observations Concerning the Increase of Mankind when he wrote his Essay on the Principle of Population (which, in turn, was a great stimulus to Darwin).Well, Malthus’ 1798 essay was, to a certain extant, written as a refutation of Godwin’s 1793 Enquiry.

    And, of course, Godwin was the father of Mary Shelley, whose Frankenstein can be seen as the nightmare version of Godwin’s Franklin-inspired scientific prophecies, which makes Ben Franklin…..the grandfather of Frankenstein’s Monster?

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

  37. @RichardTaylor
    @Guy De Champlagne

    Yes, 'data' can be considered a collective noun so it could take the singular. I used to hear it that way all the time. Yeah, being obsessed with crap like this is word based thinking, instead of fact based. It uses words as the base of reality, instead of using them as a handy cognitive tool.

    The same silly concept comes in when people use some dead language, like Latin or ancient Greek, to sound profound.

    Replies: @Guy De Champlagne, @Reg Cæsar

    The same silly concept comes in when people use some dead language, like Latin or ancient Greek, to sound profound.

    “Dead”? Tracy Lee Simmons on the Constitutional Convention:

    “These men had read and digested Polybius, Aristotle, and Cicero, and they used the ancient luminaries to frame and illustrate their ideas before the assembly…. These heated yet erudite debates, along with the Federalist Papers, fairly pullulate both with subtle classical allusions—with which Madison, Hamilton, and Jay assumed readers to be tolerably familiar—and direct references to the leagues—Amphictyonic, Achaean, Aetolian, Lycian—formed by the ancient Greeks in order to achieve political and physical security.”

    https://www.memoriapress.com/articles/classical-education-founding-fathers/

    Talk about hating white people…

    • Replies: @RichardTaylor
    @Reg Cæsar

    What matters are the concepts used, not the string of letters to denote them.

    In fact, having to memorize "ancient knowledge" from Galen (ye olde ancient Roman expert) held medicine back for centuries.

    "Galen's understanding of anatomy and medicine was principally influenced by the then-current theory of humorism (also known as the theory of the four humors: black bile, yellow bile, blood, and phlegm), as advanced by ancient Greek physicians such as Hippocrates"

    Oh boy! A dead Latin quoting a dead Greek! Doctors wasted years learning that nonsense.

  38. @Anon
    Benjamin Franklin went to Boston Latin for a year or two to learn to read, but was yanked out when he had trouble with the "arithmetick." Here's an example of an 18th century arithmetic book:

    https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=TfJZAAAAcAAJ&dq=hodder%20arithmetick&pg=PP1#v=onepage&q&f=false

    And here:

    https://www.resourceaholic.com/2018/03/hodder1.html

    It's not as broadly known as it should be, but Franklin was considered a major and serious scientist in many surprising areas during his life and for many decades thereafter. But his weakness was his lack of math chops.

    Franklin numerically documented many of his experiments, so I wonder if his weakness ultimately was the lack of higher mathematics.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @nebulafox, @syonredux

    For a few years in the middle of the 18th Century, Franklin was just about the top physicist of electricity in the world. Of course it was easier in 1750 than in James Clerk Maxwell’s day. Still, Franklin’s invention of the lightning rod, an immense benefit to fire safety, derived from his figuring out the basics of electricity before just about anybody else. So, the lightning rod was kind of like Watt’s improved steam engine: not just tinkering, but a scientific theory-enabled breakthrough.

    • Replies: @syonredux
    @Steve Sailer

    Yeah, Franklin did a lot of foundational work in electricity : theory of conservation of charge, coining key terms (positive and negative charge, battery,), etc. And that's in addition to inventing numerous useful devices (lightning rod, bifocals, flexible urinary catheter), earning enough money as a printer to retire in his 40s, writing one of the most significant autobiographies, representing the Continental Congress in Paris during the Revolution, serving in both the Continental Congress and in the Constitutional Convention, drawing up the first chart of the Gulf Stream, establishing the principle of heat loss through evaporation, contributing to evolutionary theory ( his Observations Concerning the Increase of Mankind, Peopling of Countries, etc., via Malthus, influenced Darwin), ....

  39. @Guy De Champlagne
    @Reg Cæsar

    The correct form of the English language is ultimately determined by the usage of the elite media and elite universities. So in addition to looking like a pathetic pissant pedant, you're propping up your enemies and at best counting down to that pedantry's obsolescence. Sad!

    Replies: @RichardTaylor, @Reg Cæsar, @MBlanc46

    The correct form of the English language is ultimately determined by the usage of the elite media and elite universities.

    We’re talking about Ibram X Kendi here, not some long-departed élite. Where are Kendi right and I wrong?

    So in addition to looking like a pathetic pissant pedant

    I’m pointing out a crappy substandard intellectual’s crappy substandard use of language. That’s “pissant”? It all fits together. The guy can’t write, and the guy can’t think.

    And you and Mr Taylor come to this illiterate primitive’s defense. That’s what’s pathetic.

    • Replies: @Gary in Gramercy
    @Reg Cæsar

    Don't sweat it, Reg: you're right, Nat X is wrong. That he is "the Andrew W. Mellon Professor in the Humanities at Boston University" gives him no special insight into the English language, much less Latin. But that status, wholly unearned, probably keeps both Andrew W. Mellon and John Silber (former president of Boston University for over 25 years) turning over in their respective graves.

  40. @Guy De Champlagne
    @PiltdownMan

    Except that Kendi and BLM are supported by oligarch's and huge corporations and are only advocating for equality between racial groups not among them and, despite some meaningless rhetoric suggesting the opposite, are actually working to increase overall economic inequality?

    So yeah, it's just like Marxism if you took away all the stuff in marxism that rich people and huge corporations are opposed to and that actually advocates for economic equality. What is with you people?

    Almost all older white politicians, even on the left, are completely oblivious to what’s been going on, and think that these are merely simply calls for racial justice sparked by a few incidents in the news.

    As though your comment could be anything other than the product of calcified dotardly brain unable to see past conflicts that ended decades ago. You're a real hip, young, rational guy undermining the last generations conventional wisdom. Right.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Rob

    So yeah, it’s just like Marxism if you took away all the stuff in marxism that rich people and huge corporations are opposed to and that actually advocates for economic equality. What is with you people?

    It shares Marx’s, and all leftists’, desire for eternal unanswered power. The Left has merely discovered that race-baiting gets you there quicker than class-baiting. They know what they’re doing.

    There is no betrayal of the original and ultimate goal. Just fine-tuning the tactics.

    • Replies: @Peter Frost
    @Reg Cæsar

    It shares Marx’s, and all leftists’, desire for eternal unanswered power.

    That desire is not uniquely Marxist or leftist.

    Replies: @fish, @Reg Cæsar

  41. Sad. My father-in-law is a Boston Latin grad. Amazingly brilliant guy from a very lower-class, blue collar Boston Irish background. Practically a Hollywood stereotype. You talk to him, his blue collar Boston background is screamingly obvious, but so is his intelligence.

    He did quite well for himself. Not a millionaire or anything, but getting into Boston Latin opened doors for him that otherwise would have been closed, and ended up enriching society as a whole (he went into teaching and was very, very good at it).

    Once upon a time we thought it was important in this country to seek out and identify such people, and give them the resources to succeed. But I guess that’s all over. It’s back to feudalism and favored classes, just under a different name.

    • Agree: Voltarde, ic1000
  42. @Reg Cæsar
    @RichardTaylor


    The same silly concept comes in when people use some dead language, like Latin or ancient Greek, to sound profound.
     
    "Dead"? Tracy Lee Simmons on the Constitutional Convention:

    “These men had read and digested Polybius, Aristotle, and Cicero, and they used the ancient luminaries to frame and illustrate their ideas before the assembly…. These heated yet erudite debates, along with the Federalist Papers, fairly pullulate both with subtle classical allusions—with which Madison, Hamilton, and Jay assumed readers to be tolerably familiar—and direct references to the leagues—Amphictyonic, Achaean, Aetolian, Lycian—formed by the ancient Greeks in order to achieve political and physical security.”

    https://www.memoriapress.com/articles/classical-education-founding-fathers/


    Talk about hating white people...

    Replies: @RichardTaylor

    What matters are the concepts used, not the string of letters to denote them.

    In fact, having to memorize “ancient knowledge” from Galen (ye olde ancient Roman expert) held medicine back for centuries.

    “Galen’s understanding of anatomy and medicine was principally influenced by the then-current theory of humorism (also known as the theory of the four humors: black bile, yellow bile, blood, and phlegm), as advanced by ancient Greek physicians such as Hippocrates”

    Oh boy! A dead Latin quoting a dead Greek! Doctors wasted years learning that nonsense.

  43. Anonymous[383] • Disclaimer says:

    It is all very well harrumphing over Mr Kendi’s latest effusion, but you need to understand that it is internally consistent.
    The idea that the purpose of education is to turn out the most knowledgeable and skilled young people so that society can advance is a *moral* choice. In this case, there is nothing wrong with extra test prep or paying for a tutor for junior.

    In Mr Kendi’s case, the purpose of society is to reconfigure itself so that there are no differences between racial groups, and as long as there are differences he can define society as being ‘racist’.

    Now, given Kendi’s initial axiom, his claim of ‘racism’ is logically consistent, so in order to defeat his arguments you need to defeat his axiom. You need to make the case that it is better for society to drive to excel at the price of failure for others, than it is for all to be held to the same level.
    You would think that the 20th C would have given people ammunition enough to make this case, but the fall of the Berlin Wall was 30 years ago which is apparently enough time for people to forget the failure of societies based on the doctrine of equal outcomes.

    • Replies: @Hypnotoad666
    @Anonymous


    It is all very well harrumphing over Mr Kendi’s latest effusion, but you need to understand that it is internally consistent.
     
    His logic is that any standard that blacks fail to meet is racist, because blacks fail to meet it. So it's true the logic is consistent in the sense that it's circular, and therefore irrefutable on its own terms.

    Basically his one rhetorical trick is simply to define "racism" as anything that exposes the incompetence of blacks. One would think competence was self-evidently a good thing, but apparently a case now has to be made.

  44. Ibram Xolani Kendi = I am a lib dork × nine.

  45. @PiltdownMan
    It is possible to draw a direct line from Karl Marx's labor theory of value to Ibrahim X. Kendi's demands, with suitable amendments for the modern, service oriented economy.

    For Marx, the maxim for labor was "From each according to his ability, to each according to his need", with the people in the form of the socialist state owning the other factors of production, land and capital (i.e. fixed assets, factories etc.)

    In the Kendi way of thinking (and a whole generational phalanx in academia), jobs are the means of production and the generation of wealth, and these should be allocated, not according to ability, but proportionately, to the various identity groups in society (which supersede economic classes, in BLM and social justice thinking.)

    Of course, the proportions need to be adjusted suitably upwards for POC as a means of reparation for "historical injustices."

    To these people, once we break away from thinking of an economy and society optimized and tuned to merit, but instead hand out jobs based on spreading them around racially, then income and wealth will get spread around, too, and all will be happy and sustainable in the long haul.

    Of course, economic output may take a hit and be sub-optimal relative to a merit based economy, but we will be living in a more just and decent society.

    Marxism, of course, was the ur-gibsmedat. It is easy to laugh at people like Xendi as unsophisticated and dishonest charlatans, but a lot of people (who have no training in economics) appear to be signing up for his line of thinking because of the "intellectual" foundations. Many of them, at least thus far, have been academics. But they have also trained perhaps a decade-wide cohort of college graduates who have now entered the workforce and public life.

    Absent the overt 1930s rhetoric about world socialism and the Comintern and all that, I think all this has largely flown below the radar and taken hold, without much of the old political opprobrium that used to attach itself to people who tried to openly profess Marxism in America in earlier decades.

    Somewhere, Angela Davis is smiling. Herbert Marcuse's younger acolytes have accomplished what she and her generation never could.

    Almost all older white politicians, even on the left, are completely oblivious to what's been going on, and think that these are merely simply calls for racial justice sparked by a few incidents in the news.

    We being told to always remember that to admire merit is to oppress those without merit or skills, permanently, at the pain of being labeled racists, if we fail to do so.

    It's going to be a long, long slog to get America's value system back on the rails.

    Replies: @Guy De Champlagne, @Hypnotoad666

    There are definitely parallels between the rhetoric and ethos of identity politics and Marxism. But the two things often look very different, too.

    Partly, this is because so much of wokeism is currently directed at black participation in elitism. For example, creating black professors or bankers through various affirmative action grifts. That doesn’t map very well to Marxist theory.

    It would be as if Lenin didn’t want to overthrow capitalism, but instead just wanted workers and peasants to be set up as the new capitalists.

    • Replies: @El Dato
    @Hypnotoad666


    It would be as if Lenin didn’t want to overthrow capitalism, but instead just wanted workers and peasants to be set up as the new capitalists.
     
    Not the new capitalists but the new management class.

    Isn't that what happened? Some say the Ukrainian famine was not due to planned malice, but to mandated incompetence.

    Replies: @Jack D

    , @nebulafox
    @Hypnotoad666

    For all the (often horrific) flaws of the Old Left, they had two things going for them that the post-1960s Western Left and the modern woke in particular do not:

    1) They were fundamentally serious people who actually read seriously.

    2) For the most part, they wanted to overhaul the West's socioeconomic system, not abolish it altogether: least of all in tandem with economic oligarchs. After a brief period of Leninist wackiness, the Soviet government embraced cultural conservatism on a scale that makes the crowd here look like hippies.

  46. And we know a policy is creating more equal opportunity — and thereby is antiracist — if it is closing racial and economic inequity.

    This is the issue – the left is numb to the difference between fairness and equality, in parallel – the difference between equality of opportunity and equality of outcome.

    Equal opportunity != equal outcomes, simple as that. High IQs don’t want/can’t spend time pushing buttons in a piss factory. Low IQs don’t want to/can’t spend time designing skyscrapers.

    Maybe it’s not fair, but people don’t want fair at the root, but happiness – and that is not correlated to position/status/wealth.

  47. @Reg Cæsar
    @El Dato


    Btw, Tintin in Congo was pretty nasty but had a good attitude regarding classrooms:
     
    But not about demographics-- "...your country: Belgium", indeed.

    Tintin deserves to be raped by Pim Fortuyn for that one!

    Replies: @El Dato

    Well it was of course “Your managing country (but you guys stay here)”, a bit as if you told a Manchurian “Your country, Nihon”.

    And somehow Congo-Brazzaville was managed under personal responsibility of The King of Belgium, not by Belgium, which is really peculiar.

    In the updated version (updated in the 50s?), he’s teaching arithmetics:

    Today, the answer is “whatever I want it to be”.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @El Dato


    And somehow Congo-Brazzaville was managed under personal responsibility of The King of Belgium, not by Belgium, which is really peculiar.
     
    Congo-Leopoldville, a.k.a. Kinshasa. Brazzaville is the capital of French Congo.


    http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-cHfCYDzryKI/VCFFgyojHsI/AAAAAAAAAQw/WCuk3R2O_Uc/s1600/CONGO%2BMAP.png
  48. @Anonymous
    It is all very well harrumphing over Mr Kendi's latest effusion, but you need to understand that it is internally consistent.
    The idea that the purpose of education is to turn out the most knowledgeable and skilled young people so that society can advance is a *moral* choice. In this case, there is nothing wrong with extra test prep or paying for a tutor for junior.

    In Mr Kendi's case, the purpose of society is to reconfigure itself so that there are no differences between racial groups, and as long as there are differences he can define society as being 'racist'.

    Now, given Kendi's initial axiom, his claim of 'racism' is logically consistent, so in order to defeat his arguments you need to defeat his axiom. You need to make the case that it is better for society to drive to excel at the price of failure for others, than it is for all to be held to the same level.
    You would think that the 20th C would have given people ammunition enough to make this case, but the fall of the Berlin Wall was 30 years ago which is apparently enough time for people to forget the failure of societies based on the doctrine of equal outcomes.

    Replies: @Hypnotoad666

    It is all very well harrumphing over Mr Kendi’s latest effusion, but you need to understand that it is internally consistent.

    His logic is that any standard that blacks fail to meet is racist, because blacks fail to meet it. So it’s true the logic is consistent in the sense that it’s circular, and therefore irrefutable on its own terms.

    Basically his one rhetorical trick is simply to define “racism” as anything that exposes the incompetence of blacks. One would think competence was self-evidently a good thing, but apparently a case now has to be made.

  49. @Hypnotoad666
    @PiltdownMan

    There are definitely parallels between the rhetoric and ethos of identity politics and Marxism. But the two things often look very different, too.

    Partly, this is because so much of wokeism is currently directed at black participation in elitism. For example, creating black professors or bankers through various affirmative action grifts. That doesn't map very well to Marxist theory.

    It would be as if Lenin didn't want to overthrow capitalism, but instead just wanted workers and peasants to be set up as the new capitalists.

    Replies: @El Dato, @nebulafox

    It would be as if Lenin didn’t want to overthrow capitalism, but instead just wanted workers and peasants to be set up as the new capitalists.

    Not the new capitalists but the new management class.

    Isn’t that what happened? Some say the Ukrainian famine was not due to planned malice, but to mandated incompetence.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @El Dato

    It IS what happened (at the end of Animal Farm the pigs are sleeping in the humans' beds) BUT it was not what they planned to happen, it was just an unfortunate side effect of the re-establishment of order at the end of the Revolution. The goal was supposedly equality but it just didn't work out that way.

    For these people, re-establishing a new ruling class with them at the head of it is the explicit goal from day 1.

    Replies: @Hypnotoad666, @Adam Smith

  50. It’s a good thing for Ibram X that he isn’t as smart as Malcom X … or is he smarter by being dumber?

  51. @Anon
    OT: In San Bernardino, Antifa/BLM punches an Hispanic woman in the face as she drives past and keys her car.

    https://twitter.com/livesmattershow/status/1319827958115098624

    Another driver had his car keyed at the same protest:

    https://twitter.com/MrAndyNgo/status/1319830034815750144

    Amusingly, Portland's Archbishop held an exorcism to cast out the demons of violence. Not sure the demons inside all those Antifa trannies are listening.

    https://www.koin.com/news/special-reports/a-portland-exorcism-archbishop-prays-evil-away-after-months-of-unrest/

    Replies: @El Dato, @Papinian, @Fidelios Automata

    Until they meet a mexican gang transport, then it’s all over and the MSM mourning of rejects will reach a crescendo … again (maybe that’s what organizers are counting on?)

    But in any case, the future is full of keyed cars.

  52. I don’t need any test to see what life has shown me. One can simply check the success of the best or the most prominent people in various areas.

    White Europeans are good at everything, with Protestants being better in business & exact sciences, and Catholics in arts & politics.

    Jews are like white Europeans, but more like Protestants.

    Blacks are good only at some sports & music (or were as music performers).

    East Asians are like white Protestants, just more mechanical, which is compensated by working harder.

    Mestizos are good at organized crime.

    White Hispanics are … well, see for yourself:

    • LOL: Voltarde
    • Replies: @anon
    @Bardon Kaldian


    White Europeans are good at everything, with Protestants being better in business & exact sciences, and Catholics in arts & politics.
     
    Judging from the way Northern Europe is run vs. Southern Europe, I'd say Protestants are also better at Politics. Catholics and Orthodox Christians run corrupt countries, because all sins are forgiven after three Hail Marys. Protestants are also better at (classical) music, but I will give Catholics the edge in arts. One major flaw with Protestants: too gullible - they assume everyone is as honest as them, which is why they are doomed in a world full of non white-Protestants, unless they wise up in a hurry and take back their countries.

    Jews are like white Europeans, but more like Protestants.
     
    Jews are the opposite of Protestants. The two most salient virtues Protestants hold dear are integrity and self-restraint, two things Jews wouldn't know if they hit them in the face. Also Protestants are good at farming and making things with their hands, two things Jews have never been good at. Jews are analytical and have good linguistic humor, or used to, before they became all woke.

    East Asians are like white Protestants, just more mechanical, which is compensated by working harder.
     
    minus the integrity which is the most important thing.

    Mestizos are good at organized crime.
     
    The ones who aren't into crime are hard workers, but sloppy, like their food, which is why it's called Messycan food.

    I will add:

    Indians are like Jews, clannish, loquacious, power/money hungry, full of chutzpah which in English means shameless dishonesty, only not as cunning or clever.

    Replies: @Bardon Kaldian, @Hibernian, @Dissident

    , @Achmed E. Newman
    @Bardon Kaldian

    I just got done watching the 1st one, Bardon. That is the funniest thing I've seen in a long, long, time! I'm in tears... literally, pretty much.

    Thanks.

    , @James O'Meara
    @Bardon Kaldian

    An excellent precis.

    If I may, I would expand on this:

    "Jews are like white Europeans, but more like Protestants."

    Meaning, good at politics (hence their dominance in the field currently) but at art, not so much. However, once you get the government, you can force people to fund, praise etc. your crap art.

    Alan Watts has a passage somewhere about the ugliness of Protestant churches and Protestantism generally, but that it is so extreme as to become a "fascinating ugliness" that has its own homey charm.

    Replies: @Dissident, @Art Deco, @Bardon Kaldian

  53. I was wrong. We are not going to close the various gaps in test scores by having the white kids hit themselves on the head with a hammer one hour a day and having the Jewish white kids hit themselves two hours a day. We are going to have every American institution that educates, hires, judges or in any way deals with blacks and whites hit itself on the head with a hammer several hours a day and become much stupider.

  54. @Anon
    OT: In San Bernardino, Antifa/BLM punches an Hispanic woman in the face as she drives past and keys her car.

    https://twitter.com/livesmattershow/status/1319827958115098624

    Another driver had his car keyed at the same protest:

    https://twitter.com/MrAndyNgo/status/1319830034815750144

    Amusingly, Portland's Archbishop held an exorcism to cast out the demons of violence. Not sure the demons inside all those Antifa trannies are listening.

    https://www.koin.com/news/special-reports/a-portland-exorcism-archbishop-prays-evil-away-after-months-of-unrest/

    Replies: @El Dato, @Papinian, @Fidelios Automata

    Tolstoy includes a crossdressing male character in book 3 of War and Peace He calls the character (who uses the feminine patronymic and dresses in women’s clothes) “the buffoon”. All the buffoon ever does is say rude things to people. Every single time!

  55. @Guy De Champlagne
    As I pointed out in my Taki’s column, Kendi keeps making this argument and keeps winning because nobody respectable dares contradict his argument.

    If the goal is get black people off the white teat, then why remind them how much they're drinking? If they think they would be better off without whites, and we think they would be better off without blacks, then why not just give each side what they want? What's the point of making them see how desperately dependent they are on whites?

    Replies: @Drew

    It’s an interesting two-step, that’s for sure. These people tell black people they don’t need whitey and at the same time tell whitey we should take care better care of blacks. I’m probably crazy for thinking this way, but it seems to me it would be simpler to say that there is a social hierarchy of sorts and that those at the top should make sure those below are treated fairly and cared for, while those below ought to obey those at the top and express gratitude for the care they receive from their superiors. Keep in mind though, that I prefer authoritarian, hierarchical social order to democratic, egalitarian social order because the former seems to track more closely to reality.

  56. @Moral Stone
    His logic is absolutely perfect, regardless of if you believe the conventional wisdom. Either the tests are racist or reality is. His idiotic savantness(?) lies in forcing people to take a direct stand on that question.

    Replies: @Pop Warner, @Hannah Katz

    Reminds me of a project back in the 70s where some well meaning liberals had black educators put together a test to measure intelligence, based on the black experience, etc. Unfortunately, the white kids beat the black kids even worse than on the standard tests. So the left chastised the well meaning liberals for being racists. Too funny.

    • LOL: Achmed E. Newman
  57. @Guy De Champlagne
    We should never lose sight of what standardized tests are supposed to be measuring. I think schools should admit people based on a reasoned estimate of future academic performance. If the tests are over or under predicting performance for certain groups then they should be adjusted to reflect that. But tests tend to over predict black and latinx [sic?] academic performance because grades are more responsive to work than tests, and so tests are biased in favor of (overpredict the performance of) groups, like blacks and boys, who don't put in the hours that other groups do.

    But the important thing is that jobs need a new, up to date estimate of someones future performance at their actual job. Locking someone in based on their 17-year-old self's academic performance is sadistic and insane.

    Replies: @Drew, @anon

    “But the important thing is that jobs need a new, up to date estimate of someones future performance at their actual job. Locking someone in based on their 17-year-old self’s academic performance is sadistic and insane.”

    You should read Nassim Taleb’s critique of IQ fetishization. He makes a lot of good points, but one of the critical points is that, at a certain threshold (IIRC, the 30th or 35th percentile) IQ scores just aren’t predictive of career success or failure, as measured by income. The reason being that high-payimg jobs require a suite of traits, of which intelligence is one.

    This certainly tracks with my personal experience, as I’m one of four brothers, all of whom are if roughly equal intelligence. However, there is quite a bit of variance in our income and net wealth, as well as educational attainment. My youngest brother, for example, has the lowest educational attainment but the highest net wealth while the second youngest has the highest educational attainment but a negative net worth (he’s the only one with student loans, and they’re massive, plus he works the lowest paying jobs of all of us). I have the highest net income, went to school on a full ride, but do manual labor. My point is simply that that once you reach a certain threshold of intelligence, your success is determined more by drive, opportunity, and conscientiousness than by intelligence, so riding that metric turns into a fools errand at a certain point.

  58. @Reg Cæsar
    @Guy De Champlagne


    So yeah, it’s just like Marxism if you took away all the stuff in marxism that rich people and huge corporations are opposed to and that actually advocates for economic equality. What is with you people?
     
    It shares Marx's, and all leftists', desire for eternal unanswered power. The Left has merely discovered that race-baiting gets you there quicker than class-baiting. They know what they're doing.

    There is no betrayal of the original and ultimate goal. Just fine-tuning the tactics.

    Replies: @Peter Frost

    It shares Marx’s, and all leftists’, desire for eternal unanswered power.

    That desire is not uniquely Marxist or leftist.

    • Agree: Guy De Champlagne
    • Replies: @fish
    @Peter Frost

    Nobody ever brought less to the table than Marxists! To a man (and woman) useless parasitic neer do wells!

    , @Reg Cæsar
    @Peter Frost


    That desire is not uniquely Marxist or leftist.
     
    No, but they are the most consistent and focused. Others self-corrupt or get tired or distracted. Or pass the realm on to lazier sons.

    Marxists, like Robespierre, are the "incorruptible". Thus, they're the world champions of power hunger.

    Replies: @Peter Frost, @Rob McX

  59. @Guy De Champlagne
    @PiltdownMan

    Except that Kendi and BLM are supported by oligarch's and huge corporations and are only advocating for equality between racial groups not among them and, despite some meaningless rhetoric suggesting the opposite, are actually working to increase overall economic inequality?

    So yeah, it's just like Marxism if you took away all the stuff in marxism that rich people and huge corporations are opposed to and that actually advocates for economic equality. What is with you people?

    Almost all older white politicians, even on the left, are completely oblivious to what’s been going on, and think that these are merely simply calls for racial justice sparked by a few incidents in the news.

    As though your comment could be anything other than the product of calcified dotardly brain unable to see past conflicts that ended decades ago. You're a real hip, young, rational guy undermining the last generations conventional wisdom. Right.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Rob

    In my limited undestanding, Cultural Marxism is only ‘marxist’ in that they are trying to tear out western civilization root and branch. In particular, cultural Marxist’s want to destroy families, as they are where gender inequality most dwells. The family is also the institution through which inequalities are passed on to the next generation. As long as families are a thing, some people will be raised with lots of social capital and others raised with none.

    The current Woktusl Marxism is not eve Cultural Marxism. It is the bastard child of Cultural Marxism that was adopted by a wealthy heiress, spoiled, and educated far past his ability. There is not really any room in cultural Marxism for the fantastically wealthy or the corporate executive caste. The self-flagellation of elites over their racial sins I don’t think has any precedent, because the US is in a unique situation. The elite is mostly white and heavily Jewish. Many in the professional managerial class and got there because they went to a good school. They went to a good school because they were smart, or a legacy, or an athlete. White Americans have largely accepted very high inequality because we think meritocracy is fair (enough). But whites are on the way out as the majority population. The new people have largely not accepted meritocracy as fair (enough). So how is a white elite going to maintain their legitimacy in a heavily non white America?

    They’re think that because they recognize white racism and their white privilege, the brown masses will accept them as an elite.

    There is also the matter race. In a sense, the US has had 2 classes of people:white and black. Note I did not say ‘economic class’. Those are just the categories into which an alien might sort Americans, Within the white class, working intelligently and hard tended to come with improvements in status. Within the black class, hard, intelligent work earned little reward for most blacks.

    In terms of race, cultural Marxism is about tearing down the barrier between the racial classes. It really is basically the American creed being actually applied. Think how you would view black people’s lot in life if you did not think hbd were true. Well, blacks aren’t stuck on the bottom in ghettoes that get worse every year because those are the natural results of blacks in modernity. Blacks aren’t on the bottom because they’re dumber.

    So blacks must be in their social position because something is holding them back. This something could be legacies of past racist behavior of whites that has been maintained through a system where cultural capital is passed along by families and the institutions are run for and by whites. That’s institutional racism. The other possibility is that blacks are held down by current racist actions of whites. This is where the self-flagellation of the elite comes in. Every white person is racist. I’ll prove it to you. Do you think there are any problems Black people have that is caused by blacks? Yea? Racist. Do you ever treat a black person differntly than you would treat a white person, even just once? Yes? Racist. This can go on, but you get the drift. Even if you personally have never done something racist, the legal system is de facto racist, because blacks have less money to hire lawyers, pay fines, etc. it must be racism, because the races are the same underneath some shallow cultural traits.

    So a new people is replacing an old one. The old elites would like to stay elites in of the new nation. They think the self-flagellation endears them to non-whites. They think it makes their status more secure. Time will tell…

    You’ll note I didn’t talk need income much in those paragra

  60. @Mike Pierson, Davenport Rector, Midfielder

    Standardized tests have become the most effective racist weapon ever devised to objectively degrade Black and brown minds and legally exclude their bodies.
     
    Well I'd say that's pretty conclusive there. Tests are a racist weapon devised to legally exclude bodies. So, henceforth no more tests of any kind, anywhere. Especially paternity tests which have one hell of a disparate impact problem. Btw, why is the word "brown" not capitalized? Is Kenji tryna exclude brown bodies? I'd say he gots some 'splaining to do.

    Replies: @MEH 0910, @AliNoNo, @James O'Meara

    Btw, why is the word “brown” not capitalized? Is Kenji tryna exclude brown bodies? I’d say he gots some ‘splaining to do.

    https://www.nytco.com/press/uppercasing-black/

    The term “brown” as a racial or ethnic description should also generally remain lowercase and should be used with care. “Brown” has been used to describe such a disparate range of people — Latin, Indigenous, Asian, Middle Eastern — that the meaning is often unclear to readers. A more specific description is generally best.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/05/insider/capitalized-black.html

    The Times also looked at whether to capitalize white and brown in reference to race, but both will remain lowercase. Brown has generally been used to describe a wide range of cultures, Mr. Baquet and Mr. Corbett said in their memo to staff. As a result, its meaning can be unclear to readers; white doesn’t represent a shared culture and history in the way Black does, and also has long been capitalized by hate groups.

  61. By the 1960s, genetic explanations had largely been discredited.

    And by the 2000s they were un-discredited.

  62. @Hypnotoad666
    @PiltdownMan

    There are definitely parallels between the rhetoric and ethos of identity politics and Marxism. But the two things often look very different, too.

    Partly, this is because so much of wokeism is currently directed at black participation in elitism. For example, creating black professors or bankers through various affirmative action grifts. That doesn't map very well to Marxist theory.

    It would be as if Lenin didn't want to overthrow capitalism, but instead just wanted workers and peasants to be set up as the new capitalists.

    Replies: @El Dato, @nebulafox

    For all the (often horrific) flaws of the Old Left, they had two things going for them that the post-1960s Western Left and the modern woke in particular do not:

    1) They were fundamentally serious people who actually read seriously.

    2) For the most part, they wanted to overhaul the West’s socioeconomic system, not abolish it altogether: least of all in tandem with economic oligarchs. After a brief period of Leninist wackiness, the Soviet government embraced cultural conservatism on a scale that makes the crowd here look like hippies.

  63. @Abolish_public_education
    If it were announced that the entrance exam would consist of a candidate’s wind-unaided time in the 100m dash, White parents would be speed-dialing their lawyers.

    The darn cell network would crash.

    I am so sick and tired of getting dragged into other people’s fights over the tax pie.

    Where I live, there are signs all over the place — school fronts included — reminding voters to support the local school tax measure.

    Meanwhile, in NM, voters are being asked to support Bond Question C ($156M in school related bonds). Naturally, the fellow who has written the ballot argument in favor is a GOP, elected official.

    Replies: @fish

    If it were announced that the entrance exam would consist of a candidate’s wind-unaided time in the 100m dash, White parents would be speed-dialing their lawyers.

    …..and if the qualifiying trials were indicative of the eventual success of the applicant then those white parents would be wasting their time in foolish effort.

    Why not just give black students diplomas from America’s prestigious high schools and Universities and let employers sort it out later? From what I’ve seen lil Philander jr and Naquisha have next to zero interest in education but are really, really status conscious!

    Hey who wants a diploma from Shitavious Jr. Memorial HS when Lowell or Thomas Jefferson has so much more cachet?

    Society would figure out eventually to discount these documents and those presenting them.

  64. @Anon
    Benjamin Franklin went to Boston Latin for a year or two to learn to read, but was yanked out when he had trouble with the "arithmetick." Here's an example of an 18th century arithmetic book:

    https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=TfJZAAAAcAAJ&dq=hodder%20arithmetick&pg=PP1#v=onepage&q&f=false

    And here:

    https://www.resourceaholic.com/2018/03/hodder1.html

    It's not as broadly known as it should be, but Franklin was considered a major and serious scientist in many surprising areas during his life and for many decades thereafter. But his weakness was his lack of math chops.

    Franklin numerically documented many of his experiments, so I wonder if his weakness ultimately was the lack of higher mathematics.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @nebulafox, @syonredux

    Da Vinci suffered from many of the same problems, as did Michael Faraday. But goddamn, were they skilled experimenters.

    In a way, learning from their brands of genius is more accessible than being gifted a brain beyond average comprehension like Newton, Maxwell, or Einstein were.

  65. @Peter Frost
    @Reg Cæsar

    It shares Marx’s, and all leftists’, desire for eternal unanswered power.

    That desire is not uniquely Marxist or leftist.

    Replies: @fish, @Reg Cæsar

    Nobody ever brought less to the table than Marxists! To a man (and woman) useless parasitic neer do wells!

  66. Ibram X. Kendi writes, and the Boston Globe copy editors (if any) allow him to publish, “all Boston children do not have equal access to high-quality test preparation”. Did he really mean to say this? No, he probably meant to say, “not all Boston children have equal access to high-quality test preparation”.

  67. @Jason y
    Many in the HBD sphere, including our blog host, wouldn't have predicted that Asians would pull away as they have. I don't think anyone would have predicted a divergence b/n Asians and all other races, certainly not of this magnitude over such a short span.

    So, what's going on?

    Replies: @IHTG, @Ganderson, @Dratmes, @Anonymous Jew

    Something that might be worth checking is if there’s any subset of whites that have taken off in a similar fashion.

  68. Kendi is literally gaslighting us.

    to say there’s something wrong with Black and Latinx children is to espouse racist ideas. And those who say racist ideas, typically deny their ideas are racist.

    Gaslighting is a tactic in which a person or entity, in order to gain more power, makes a victim question their reality. It works much better than you may think.

    https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/here-there-and-everywhere/201701/11-warning-signs-gaslighting

    Do those Black and Latinx children look like dim bulbs to you? They look fine to me! You must be a racist. Don’t deny it!

    • LOL: Johann Ricke
  69. @El Dato
    @Hypnotoad666


    It would be as if Lenin didn’t want to overthrow capitalism, but instead just wanted workers and peasants to be set up as the new capitalists.
     
    Not the new capitalists but the new management class.

    Isn't that what happened? Some say the Ukrainian famine was not due to planned malice, but to mandated incompetence.

    Replies: @Jack D

    It IS what happened (at the end of Animal Farm the pigs are sleeping in the humans’ beds) BUT it was not what they planned to happen, it was just an unfortunate side effect of the re-establishment of order at the end of the Revolution. The goal was supposedly equality but it just didn’t work out that way.

    For these people, re-establishing a new ruling class with them at the head of it is the explicit goal from day 1.

    • Agree: Adam Smith
    • Replies: @Hypnotoad666
    @Jack D


    BUT it [the Ukraine Famine] was not what they planned to happen, it was just an unfortunate side effect of the re-establishment of order at the end of the Revolution. The goal was supposedly equality but it just didn’t work out that way.
     
    In Seeing Like a State, James Scott made, I thought, a pretty compelling case that the Soviet famines were neither deliberate starvation nor misguided ideology. Rather, they were simply caused by the Bolsheviks' desire to extract food from the peasantry without paying for it.

    The first wave of starvation was due to peasants hiding, destroying, and refusing to grow grain in response to ruinous commie expropriation. The second wave of starvation was caused when the commies imposed forced collectivization. But collectivization was done for the principal purpose of "solving" the prior expropriation problem by having the state centrally control the production process from start to finish.

    Intent and motivation are always slippery issues. There were true believers who imagined collectivization would be a boon to productivity. There were also cynics who thought that starving off recalcitrant enemies of the state was a collateral benefit. But I think the state resource-control theory (with callous indifference to the human cost), seems to best fit the facts.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    , @Adam Smith
    @Jack D


    re-establishing a new ruling class with them at the head of it is the explicit goal from day 1.
     
    Is this not always the case?

  70. anon[355] • Disclaimer says:
    @Guy De Champlagne
    We should never lose sight of what standardized tests are supposed to be measuring. I think schools should admit people based on a reasoned estimate of future academic performance. If the tests are over or under predicting performance for certain groups then they should be adjusted to reflect that. But tests tend to over predict black and latinx [sic?] academic performance because grades are more responsive to work than tests, and so tests are biased in favor of (overpredict the performance of) groups, like blacks and boys, who don't put in the hours that other groups do.

    But the important thing is that jobs need a new, up to date estimate of someones future performance at their actual job. Locking someone in based on their 17-year-old self's academic performance is sadistic and insane.

    Replies: @Drew, @anon

    We should never lose sight of what standardized tests are supposed to be measuring.

    Just as we should never lose sight of what shills and trolls are supposed to be doing in comments sections?

    But the important thing is that jobs need a new, up to date estimate of someones future performance at their actual job.

    Whoever creates such a novel, never-before-seen thing will become very rich.
    You should work on that! Totally work on that continuously!

    Locking someone in based on their 17-year-old self’s academic performance is sadistic and insane.

  71. anon[773] • Disclaimer says:

    This is not about me or my child. My wife and I have the resources to one day sign her up for an expensive test-prep course, or hire a test-prep consultant. All the test prep will end up being money well spent: It will have boosted her score to get into an exam school.

    All the while, I’ll come here and tell you she worked hard and she’s so smart. I won’t tell you I took advantage of the multibillion-dollar test prep industry.

    So if she gets in, it’s because of racism; if she doesn’t, it’s also because of racism, and anyone who disagrees with this is a racist?

    Glad to have him clear this up for us.

  72. Why are white and Asian youths routinely under-represented in Olympic track and field events?

    Either there’s something wrong with white and Asian youths or there’s something wrong with the Olympic stopwatches and measuring tapes.

    There’s something wrong with the Olympic stopwatches and measuring tapes. And to say there’s something wrong with white and Asian youths is to espouse racist ideas. And those who say racist ideas, typically deny their ideas are racist. …

    Kendi is like that black lawyer who thinks that Trump was literally referring to “coyote” dogs. He’s too dumb and lacking in self-awareness to realize how dumb and un-self aware he is.

    • Agree: Johann Ricke
    • Thanks: Achmed E. Newman
  73. @Peter Frost
    @Reg Cæsar

    It shares Marx’s, and all leftists’, desire for eternal unanswered power.

    That desire is not uniquely Marxist or leftist.

    Replies: @fish, @Reg Cæsar

    That desire is not uniquely Marxist or leftist.

    No, but they are the most consistent and focused. Others self-corrupt or get tired or distracted. Or pass the realm on to lazier sons.

    Marxists, like Robespierre, are the “incorruptible”. Thus, they’re the world champions of power hunger.

    • Replies: @Peter Frost
    @Reg Cæsar

    No, but they [Marxists] are the most consistent and focused. Others self-corrupt or get tired or distracted. Or pass the realm on to lazier sons.

    I don't think Marxists are any different, but let me concede your point. Why do you think BLM/Antifa are Marxists? I know some of them, and very few even have a basic understanding of Marxism.

    The more scholarly ones will describe themselves as anarchists and quote writers like Proudhon. But they're a tiny minority. Most of the others have only a superficial familiarity with political and economic theory of any sort.

    , @Rob McX
    @Reg Cæsar

    I don't really understand what you mean by the Marxist desire for power.

    Everyone is politics wants power. It's a prerequisite for any kind of political change. Some are honest and use their power as they promised, while others deceive and betray their supporters.

    When Marxists took over countries, they did pretty much what they promised. They ended private enterprise, dissolved the bourgeoisie, and put the economy - or what was left of it - under the control of the state.

    These days the Left, Marxist or otherwise, most often wants to use its power against whites. There's a clear ethnocentric agenda there, once you know how to look for it. But it's just another case of politically motivated people using power as a means to an end.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

  74. anon[383] • Disclaimer says:
    @Bardon Kaldian
    I don't need any test to see what life has shown me. One can simply check the success of the best or the most prominent people in various areas.

    White Europeans are good at everything, with Protestants being better in business & exact sciences, and Catholics in arts & politics.

    Jews are like white Europeans, but more like Protestants.

    Blacks are good only at some sports & music (or were as music performers).

    East Asians are like white Protestants, just more mechanical, which is compensated by working harder.

    Mestizos are good at organized crime.

    White Hispanics are ... well, see for yourself:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rg7iQ2CjdPw

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KzlqmQvZ0J4

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rCKurYpmRMo

    Replies: @anon, @Achmed E. Newman, @James O'Meara

    White Europeans are good at everything, with Protestants being better in business & exact sciences, and Catholics in arts & politics.

    Judging from the way Northern Europe is run vs. Southern Europe, I’d say Protestants are also better at Politics. Catholics and Orthodox Christians run corrupt countries, because all sins are forgiven after three Hail Marys. Protestants are also better at (classical) music, but I will give Catholics the edge in arts. One major flaw with Protestants: too gullible – they assume everyone is as honest as them, which is why they are doomed in a world full of non white-Protestants, unless they wise up in a hurry and take back their countries.

    Jews are like white Europeans, but more like Protestants.

    Jews are the opposite of Protestants. The two most salient virtues Protestants hold dear are integrity and self-restraint, two things Jews wouldn’t know if they hit them in the face. Also Protestants are good at farming and making things with their hands, two things Jews have never been good at. Jews are analytical and have good linguistic humor, or used to, before they became all woke.

    East Asians are like white Protestants, just more mechanical, which is compensated by working harder.

    minus the integrity which is the most important thing.

    Mestizos are good at organized crime.

    The ones who aren’t into crime are hard workers, but sloppy, like their food, which is why it’s called Messycan food.

    I will add:

    Indians are like Jews, clannish, loquacious, power/money hungry, full of chutzpah which in English means shameless dishonesty, only not as cunning or clever.

    • Replies: @Bardon Kaldian
    @anon


    Judging from the way Northern Europe is run vs. Southern Europe, I’d say Protestants are also better at Politics
     
    No, that's not politics. That's society. Politics is the art of war without too much blood. Politicians coming from Catholic cultures as better tricksters, leaders (especially charismatics). In sum- politics is not about functioning organized "good life".

    Protestants are also better at (classical) music
     
    No. If we just count composers after the Reformation, big names are (including converted others)- writing from memory:

    * Protestants (Bach, Handel, Purcell, Schumann, Mendelssohn, Wagner, Grieg, Britten, Brahms, Schoenberg, ..)
    * Catholics (Palestrina, Byrd, Tallis, Monteverdi, Vivaldi, Rossini, Pergolesi, Haydn, Mozart, Beethoven, Bizet, Franck, Saint Seans, Elgar, Janaček, Bruckner, Chopin, Berlioz, Smetana, Schubert, Dvorak, Liszt, Mahler, Debussy, Strauss, Verdi, Puccini, Orff, Honegger, Berg, Ravel, ...)

    Jews are the opposite of Protestants. The two most salient virtues Protestants hold dear are integrity and self-restraint, two things Jews wouldn’t know if they hit them in the face.
     
    Sure, Rockefeller, J.P.Morgan & Carnegie were people of much integrity & self-restraint. This is beyond ridiculous. Anyway- both Protestants & Jews have shown great talents in past, say, 150 years, at making money & working at exact sciences.

    https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/31Kc3XbyDgL._SX331_BO1,204,203,200_.jpg

    The ones who aren’t into crime are hard workers, but sloppy, like their food, which is why it’s called Messycan food.
     
    This is not a sociological analysis, but a brief overview of stereotypes rooted in life.

    Indians are like Jews, clannish, loquacious, power/money hungry, full of chutzpah which in English means shameless dishonesty, only not as cunning or clever.
     
    https://media4.giphy.com/media/8ymvg6pl1Lzy0/giphy.gif
    , @Hibernian
    @anon


    One major flaw with Protestants: too gullible – they assume everyone is as honest as them
     
    Sure. That was the basis for the Know Nothings, Blanshardism, etc.
    , @Dissident
    @anon


    full of chutzpah which in English means shameless dishonesty,
     
    I am not aware of any definition of [c*]hutzpah that includes dishonesty. (Obviously, [c*]hutzpah can and indeed often does involve dishonesty of one form of another, but dishonesty is neither inherent nor necessary to the concept.)

    https://www.dictionary.com/browse/chutzpah

    chutzpah
    hutzpah
    / (ˈxʊtspə) /
    noun
    informal shameless audacity; impudence

    [Collins English Dictionary - Complete & Unabridged 2012 Digital Edition
    © William Collins Sons & Co. Ltd. 1979, 1986 © HarperCollins
    Publishers 1998, 2000, 2003, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2009, 2012]

     

    Additional entry from same Dictionary.com page below break.

    Cultural definitions for chutzpah
    chutzpah
    [ (khoot-spuh, hoot-spuh) ]

    Yiddish term for courage bordering on arrogance, roughly equivalent to “nerve” (in the slang sense): “It took a lot of chutzpah to make such a controversial statement.”

    [The New Dictionary of Cultural Literacy, Third Edition
    Copyright © 2005 by Houghton Mifflin Harcourt Publishing Company. Published by Houghton Mifflin Harcourt Publishing Company. All rights reserved.]
     

    *While admittedly the most widely used for rendering the Hebrew letters (c)hes [ ח] and (c)hof [ ך, כ] into English transliteration, I find this ch construction highly problematic. Those unfamiliar with the proper pronunciation invariably render the "ch" as either the same sound as in cheese, or as if it were an sh sound, as in chalet or Charlotte.
  75. @El Dato
    @Reg Cæsar

    Well it was of course "Your managing country (but you guys stay here)", a bit as if you told a Manchurian "Your country, Nihon".

    And somehow Congo-Brazzaville was managed under personal responsibility of The King of Belgium, not by Belgium, which is really peculiar.

    In the updated version (updated in the 50s?), he's teaching arithmetics:

    https://i.postimg.cc/TYC9j39C/Tintin-au-Congo.png

    Today, the answer is "whatever I want it to be".

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    And somehow Congo-Brazzaville was managed under personal responsibility of The King of Belgium, not by Belgium, which is really peculiar.

    Congo-Leopoldville, a.k.a. Kinshasa. Brazzaville is the capital of French Congo.

  76. @Reg Cæsar
    @Guy De Champlagne


    The correct form of the English language is ultimately determined by the usage of the elite media and elite universities.
     
    We're talking about Ibram X Kendi here, not some long-departed élite. Where are Kendi right and I wrong?

    So in addition to looking like a pathetic pissant pedant
     
    I'm pointing out a crappy substandard intellectual's crappy substandard use of language. That's "pissant"? It all fits together. The guy can't write, and the guy can't think.

    And you and Mr Taylor come to this illiterate primitive's defense. That's what's pathetic.

    Replies: @Gary in Gramercy

    Don’t sweat it, Reg: you’re right, Nat X is wrong. That he is “the Andrew W. Mellon Professor in the Humanities at Boston University” gives him no special insight into the English language, much less Latin. But that status, wholly unearned, probably keeps both Andrew W. Mellon and John Silber (former president of Boston University for over 25 years) turning over in their respective graves.

  77. @Reg Cæsar
    @Peter Frost


    That desire is not uniquely Marxist or leftist.
     
    No, but they are the most consistent and focused. Others self-corrupt or get tired or distracted. Or pass the realm on to lazier sons.

    Marxists, like Robespierre, are the "incorruptible". Thus, they're the world champions of power hunger.

    Replies: @Peter Frost, @Rob McX

    No, but they [Marxists] are the most consistent and focused. Others self-corrupt or get tired or distracted. Or pass the realm on to lazier sons.

    I don’t think Marxists are any different, but let me concede your point. Why do you think BLM/Antifa are Marxists? I know some of them, and very few even have a basic understanding of Marxism.

    The more scholarly ones will describe themselves as anarchists and quote writers like Proudhon. But they’re a tiny minority. Most of the others have only a superficial familiarity with political and economic theory of any sort.

    • Agree: Dissident
  78. @Steve Sailer
    @Anon

    For a few years in the middle of the 18th Century, Franklin was just about the top physicist of electricity in the world. Of course it was easier in 1750 than in James Clerk Maxwell's day. Still, Franklin's invention of the lightning rod, an immense benefit to fire safety, derived from his figuring out the basics of electricity before just about anybody else. So, the lightning rod was kind of like Watt's improved steam engine: not just tinkering, but a scientific theory-enabled breakthrough.

    Replies: @syonredux

    Yeah, Franklin did a lot of foundational work in electricity : theory of conservation of charge, coining key terms (positive and negative charge, battery,), etc. And that’s in addition to inventing numerous useful devices (lightning rod, bifocals, flexible urinary catheter), earning enough money as a printer to retire in his 40s, writing one of the most significant autobiographies, representing the Continental Congress in Paris during the Revolution, serving in both the Continental Congress and in the Constitutional Convention, drawing up the first chart of the Gulf Stream, establishing the principle of heat loss through evaporation, contributing to evolutionary theory ( his Observations Concerning the Increase of Mankind, Peopling of Countries, etc., via Malthus, influenced Darwin), ….

  79. @Anon
    Benjamin Franklin went to Boston Latin for a year or two to learn to read, but was yanked out when he had trouble with the "arithmetick." Here's an example of an 18th century arithmetic book:

    https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=TfJZAAAAcAAJ&dq=hodder%20arithmetick&pg=PP1#v=onepage&q&f=false

    And here:

    https://www.resourceaholic.com/2018/03/hodder1.html

    It's not as broadly known as it should be, but Franklin was considered a major and serious scientist in many surprising areas during his life and for many decades thereafter. But his weakness was his lack of math chops.

    Franklin numerically documented many of his experiments, so I wonder if his weakness ultimately was the lack of higher mathematics.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @nebulafox, @syonredux

    Franklin’s influence pops up all over the place in the 18th-early 19th centuries.
    for example, writing to Joseph Priestly in 1780, Franklin made a bold prophecy:

    It is impossible to imagine the height to which may be carried in a thousand years, the power of man over matter. We may perhaps learn to deprive large masses of their gravity, and give them absolute levity, for the sake of easy transport. Agriculture may diminish its labor and double its produce; all diseases may by sure means be prevented or cured, not excepting even that of old age, and our lives lengthened at pleasure even beyond the antediluvian standard.

    Indeed, Franklin would even go beyond this, and and state that” mind would one day become omnipotent over matter.”

    William Godwin was mesmerized by this phrase, and, in his Enquiry Concerning Political Justice, argues (citing Franklin) that one day Man would triumph over the “infirmities of our nature” (age, sleep, disease, melancholy, etc).

    As I noted upthread, Malthus was influenced by Franklin’s Observations Concerning the Increase of Mankind when he wrote his Essay on the Principle of Population (which, in turn, was a great stimulus to Darwin).Well, Malthus’ 1798 essay was, to a certain extant, written as a refutation of Godwin’s 1793 Enquiry.

    And, of course, Godwin was the father of Mary Shelley, whose Frankenstein can be seen as the nightmare version of Godwin’s Franklin-inspired scientific prophecies, which makes Ben Franklin…..the grandfather of Frankenstein’s Monster?

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @syonredux

    In Darwin's library there's his copy of Malthus in which we can see Darwin underlined the part where Malthus writes "As Dr Franklin noted ..."

  80. @Jason y
    Many in the HBD sphere, including our blog host, wouldn't have predicted that Asians would pull away as they have. I don't think anyone would have predicted a divergence b/n Asians and all other races, certainly not of this magnitude over such a short span.

    So, what's going on?

    Replies: @IHTG, @Ganderson, @Dratmes, @Anonymous Jew

    Cheating comes immediately to mind…

  81. As I recall most of the SAT questions started out something like this—-On the way to the yacht club a car is travelling 55 mph three miles away at the county club another car…—–other questions involved polo ponies and Purdy shotguns.

    • LOL: Hibernian
  82. @Jack D
    @El Dato

    It IS what happened (at the end of Animal Farm the pigs are sleeping in the humans' beds) BUT it was not what they planned to happen, it was just an unfortunate side effect of the re-establishment of order at the end of the Revolution. The goal was supposedly equality but it just didn't work out that way.

    For these people, re-establishing a new ruling class with them at the head of it is the explicit goal from day 1.

    Replies: @Hypnotoad666, @Adam Smith

    BUT it [the Ukraine Famine] was not what they planned to happen, it was just an unfortunate side effect of the re-establishment of order at the end of the Revolution. The goal was supposedly equality but it just didn’t work out that way.

    In Seeing Like a State, James Scott made, I thought, a pretty compelling case that the Soviet famines were neither deliberate starvation nor misguided ideology. Rather, they were simply caused by the Bolsheviks’ desire to extract food from the peasantry without paying for it.

    The first wave of starvation was due to peasants hiding, destroying, and refusing to grow grain in response to ruinous commie expropriation. The second wave of starvation was caused when the commies imposed forced collectivization. But collectivization was done for the principal purpose of “solving” the prior expropriation problem by having the state centrally control the production process from start to finish.

    Intent and motivation are always slippery issues. There were true believers who imagined collectivization would be a boon to productivity. There were also cynics who thought that starving off recalcitrant enemies of the state was a collateral benefit. But I think the state resource-control theory (with callous indifference to the human cost), seems to best fit the facts.

    • Thanks: Johann Ricke
    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Hypnotoad666

    Thanks.

  83. Boston Latin’s student body is 46% white compared to 45% of the population of the city of Boston, 29% Asian compared to 10% of the population, 13% Hispanic vs. 20%, and 8% black vs. 25% of the city. Unlike at test-only Stuyvesant and Thomas Jefferson, students are admitted on a combination of grades and test scores, so blacks and Hispanics aren’t as shut out and Asians aren’t as dominant at Boston Latin because it’s pretty easy to get straight A’s at a school with mostly bad students.

    So whites take an extra 1% of the school places, while blacks and hispanics lose the places they “deserve” to Asians. Obviously the problem is white racism.

    The tendency to “blame whitey” dates to battles that non-whites fought and won more than 50 years ago. Nowadays the trope is old and tired. It takes a real stretch of the imagination – and a search for villains more than a century ago – to pin the blame for these test statistics on whites.

    The speeches of MLK 60 years ago were frank and honest in asking for equality. In contrast, Kendi’s writing seems dishonest, just as the BLM protests seem desperate and unthinking.

    There is something interesting going on here. It is as if equality under the law, the War on Poverty, and even affirmative action, have failed; the science of genetics is rubbishing the notion that race is a social construct; and the only thing left for “anti-racist” writers to do is to double down on the anti-white rhetoric.

    The attitude seems to be that floggings (of whites) will continue until (black) morale improves. In the meantime, Asians will continue to earn their place among the elites.

    It is hard to see a happy ending here, especially when whites are eager to give cash and honors to mediocre writers like Kendi. What is the motive of Jack Dorsey’s gift? Does he see Kendi’s work as exciting and important? Is it plain old white guilt? Is it to discourage examination of the racial balance of his own company’s employees? Or is it in the interests of his business to encourage the continual disparagement and humiliation of white people?

    • Agree: Bardon Kaldian
  84. @Guy De Champlagne
    @JimB

    It's one thing to get rid of elite brand names. But it's not a good idea to get rid of elite classes, where high performers are given appropriate material and matched with other high performers. And why move everything to online classes? And why should a company be forced to hire you because you can prove knowledge about something that doesn't have anything to do with job performance?

    Replies: @JimB

    But it’s not a good idea to get rid of elite classes, where high performers are given appropriate material and matched with other high performers

    I disagree. You can be matched with high achievers through Skype and Zoom; get together and solve math problems. But you should spend much of your life in contact with both sides of the bell curve. Otherwise, you will turn into an obnoxious jerk without empathy for your fellow man.

  85. @Mike Pierson, Davenport Rector, Midfielder

    Standardized tests have become the most effective racist weapon ever devised to objectively degrade Black and brown minds and legally exclude their bodies.
     
    Well I'd say that's pretty conclusive there. Tests are a racist weapon devised to legally exclude bodies. So, henceforth no more tests of any kind, anywhere. Especially paternity tests which have one hell of a disparate impact problem. Btw, why is the word "brown" not capitalized? Is Kenji tryna exclude brown bodies? I'd say he gots some 'splaining to do.

    Replies: @MEH 0910, @AliNoNo, @James O'Meara

    “It is like allowing certain NFL teams more time to practice in the off-season and, when those teams regularly win the Super Bowl, somehow claiming the rules are fair.”
    —————-This is often mentioned, but just how is it that Blacks make up by far the majority of players in the NFL and NBA, even though they’re 13 percent of the population. Is athletic ability evenly distributed across races and ethnic groups? To have a professional sports career, I’d guess that there’s a selection process based on ability. Does he think that process is “racist”? Why should it be any different for intellectual pursuits?

    https://www.questia.com/library/journal/1G1-20383239/racial-composition-of-nba-nfl-and-mlb-teams-and

    • Agree: HammerJack
  86. @Reg Cæsar
    @Peter Frost


    That desire is not uniquely Marxist or leftist.
     
    No, but they are the most consistent and focused. Others self-corrupt or get tired or distracted. Or pass the realm on to lazier sons.

    Marxists, like Robespierre, are the "incorruptible". Thus, they're the world champions of power hunger.

    Replies: @Peter Frost, @Rob McX

    I don’t really understand what you mean by the Marxist desire for power.

    Everyone is politics wants power. It’s a prerequisite for any kind of political change. Some are honest and use their power as they promised, while others deceive and betray their supporters.

    When Marxists took over countries, they did pretty much what they promised. They ended private enterprise, dissolved the bourgeoisie, and put the economy – or what was left of it – under the control of the state.

    These days the Left, Marxist or otherwise, most often wants to use its power against whites. There’s a clear ethnocentric agenda there, once you know how to look for it. But it’s just another case of politically motivated people using power as a means to an end.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Rob McX


    I don’t really understand what you mean by the Marxist desire for power.

    Everyone is politics wants power.
     

    I didn't say power. I said unanswered power. Absolute, in other words. The "absolute monarchs" had nothing on these guys. They had to answer to their God, via the Church.

    Compare the Spanish Inquisition-- about a hundred executions a year, by the state-- with the Holodomor, or Great Leap Forward and subsequent Cultural Revolution.


    These days the Left, Marxist or otherwise, most often wants to use its power against whites.
     
    Thomas Sowell pointed out that Communists in South Africa in the 1930s were explicitly pro-white. As, no doubt, were their US counterparts in labor unions. The underlying consistency is their thirst for absolute power. The rest is just dressing.

    But it’s just another case of politically motivated people using power as a means to an end.
     
    Absolute power to an absolute end. Theocracies and military juntas, again, have nothing on these guys. "If you're not with us, you're against us."

    In other words, you've been drafted into a war you never declared. This is what Jeane Kirkpatrick meant when she distinguished totalitarian regimes from the merely authoritarian.

  87. @Rob McX
    @Reg Cæsar

    I don't really understand what you mean by the Marxist desire for power.

    Everyone is politics wants power. It's a prerequisite for any kind of political change. Some are honest and use their power as they promised, while others deceive and betray their supporters.

    When Marxists took over countries, they did pretty much what they promised. They ended private enterprise, dissolved the bourgeoisie, and put the economy - or what was left of it - under the control of the state.

    These days the Left, Marxist or otherwise, most often wants to use its power against whites. There's a clear ethnocentric agenda there, once you know how to look for it. But it's just another case of politically motivated people using power as a means to an end.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    I don’t really understand what you mean by the Marxist desire for power.

    Everyone is politics wants power.

    I didn’t say power. I said unanswered power. Absolute, in other words. The “absolute monarchs” had nothing on these guys. They had to answer to their God, via the Church.

    Compare the Spanish Inquisition– about a hundred executions a year, by the state– with the Holodomor, or Great Leap Forward and subsequent Cultural Revolution.

    These days the Left, Marxist or otherwise, most often wants to use its power against whites.

    Thomas Sowell pointed out that Communists in South Africa in the 1930s were explicitly pro-white. As, no doubt, were their US counterparts in labor unions. The underlying consistency is their thirst for absolute power. The rest is just dressing.

    But it’s just another case of politically motivated people using power as a means to an end.

    Absolute power to an absolute end. Theocracies and military juntas, again, have nothing on these guys. “If you’re not with us, you’re against us.”

    In other words, you’ve been drafted into a war you never declared. This is what Jeane Kirkpatrick meant when she distinguished totalitarian regimes from the merely authoritarian.

  88. @Jason y
    Many in the HBD sphere, including our blog host, wouldn't have predicted that Asians would pull away as they have. I don't think anyone would have predicted a divergence b/n Asians and all other races, certainly not of this magnitude over such a short span.

    So, what's going on?

    Replies: @IHTG, @Ganderson, @Dratmes, @Anonymous Jew

    Chinese immigrants are not picked out of a rice field randomly. China can spare a few million bright people in order to (A) displace less robotic American students, (B) drive down tech wages and thereby discourage Americans from entering STEM, (C) get access to American innovations, and (D) establish a second alien market dominant minority within the U.S. that despises us and can be counted upon look out for their homelands’ interests. China does not send people here to make America stronger.

    BTW, Koreans don’t like us either.

  89. @Guy De Champlagne
    @RichardTaylor

    Yeah, being obsessed with crap like this is word based thinking, instead of fact based. It uses words as the base of reality, instead of using them as a handy cognitive tool.

    Yes! And word's meanings are ultimately controlled by the cultural elite. It's why the standard conservative rhetoric on racism ("racism is horrible, but i'm not racist, and the US isn't racist") is so unforgivably stupid. Never give your opponents so much power over your own argument.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    It’s why the standard conservative rhetoric on racism…

    “Racism” has never been a valid word, with a definite meaning. It’s been slippery from the start. Same with “sexism” and, God save us, “homophobia”. These are weapons, not words.

    At least democracy, republic, liberal, socialism, etc, actually meant something once, stretched out of recognition as they may be today.

    • Replies: @Rob McX
    @Reg Cæsar


    Same with “sexism” and, God save us, “homophobia”.
     
    If you want an example of a homophobe in the etymologically correct sense, there's Jay Thomas Johnson. He murdered two gays in Minneapolis in 1991, one of them a former state senator. He said he wanted to rid America of homosexuals and slow down the spread of AIDS. There's surprisingly little about him online. He'd be much better known if it weren't for the inconvenient fact that he is gay and HIV positive himself.

    Replies: @Rob McX, @Reg Cæsar, @Reg Cæsar

  90. @Anon
    OT: In San Bernardino, Antifa/BLM punches an Hispanic woman in the face as she drives past and keys her car.

    https://twitter.com/livesmattershow/status/1319827958115098624

    Another driver had his car keyed at the same protest:

    https://twitter.com/MrAndyNgo/status/1319830034815750144

    Amusingly, Portland's Archbishop held an exorcism to cast out the demons of violence. Not sure the demons inside all those Antifa trannies are listening.

    https://www.koin.com/news/special-reports/a-portland-exorcism-archbishop-prays-evil-away-after-months-of-unrest/

    Replies: @El Dato, @Papinian, @Fidelios Automata

    But racism by blacks isn’t racism, right?

  91. @anon
    @Bardon Kaldian


    White Europeans are good at everything, with Protestants being better in business & exact sciences, and Catholics in arts & politics.
     
    Judging from the way Northern Europe is run vs. Southern Europe, I'd say Protestants are also better at Politics. Catholics and Orthodox Christians run corrupt countries, because all sins are forgiven after three Hail Marys. Protestants are also better at (classical) music, but I will give Catholics the edge in arts. One major flaw with Protestants: too gullible - they assume everyone is as honest as them, which is why they are doomed in a world full of non white-Protestants, unless they wise up in a hurry and take back their countries.

    Jews are like white Europeans, but more like Protestants.
     
    Jews are the opposite of Protestants. The two most salient virtues Protestants hold dear are integrity and self-restraint, two things Jews wouldn't know if they hit them in the face. Also Protestants are good at farming and making things with their hands, two things Jews have never been good at. Jews are analytical and have good linguistic humor, or used to, before they became all woke.

    East Asians are like white Protestants, just more mechanical, which is compensated by working harder.
     
    minus the integrity which is the most important thing.

    Mestizos are good at organized crime.
     
    The ones who aren't into crime are hard workers, but sloppy, like their food, which is why it's called Messycan food.

    I will add:

    Indians are like Jews, clannish, loquacious, power/money hungry, full of chutzpah which in English means shameless dishonesty, only not as cunning or clever.

    Replies: @Bardon Kaldian, @Hibernian, @Dissident

    Judging from the way Northern Europe is run vs. Southern Europe, I’d say Protestants are also better at Politics

    No, that’s not politics. That’s society. Politics is the art of war without too much blood. Politicians coming from Catholic cultures as better tricksters, leaders (especially charismatics). In sum- politics is not about functioning organized “good life”.

    Protestants are also better at (classical) music

    No. If we just count composers after the Reformation, big names are (including converted others)- writing from memory:

    * Protestants (Bach, Handel, Purcell, Schumann, Mendelssohn, Wagner, Grieg, Britten, Brahms, Schoenberg, ..)
    * Catholics (Palestrina, Byrd, Tallis, Monteverdi, Vivaldi, Rossini, Pergolesi, Haydn, Mozart, Beethoven, Bizet, Franck, Saint Seans, Elgar, Janaček, Bruckner, Chopin, Berlioz, Smetana, Schubert, Dvorak, Liszt, Mahler, Debussy, Strauss, Verdi, Puccini, Orff, Honegger, Berg, Ravel, …)

    Jews are the opposite of Protestants. The two most salient virtues Protestants hold dear are integrity and self-restraint, two things Jews wouldn’t know if they hit them in the face.

    Sure, Rockefeller, J.P.Morgan & Carnegie were people of much integrity & self-restraint. This is beyond ridiculous. Anyway- both Protestants & Jews have shown great talents in past, say, 150 years, at making money & working at exact sciences.

    The ones who aren’t into crime are hard workers, but sloppy, like their food, which is why it’s called Messycan food.

    This is not a sociological analysis, but a brief overview of stereotypes rooted in life.

    Indians are like Jews, clannish, loquacious, power/money hungry, full of chutzpah which in English means shameless dishonesty, only not as cunning or clever.

  92. @Reg Cæsar
    @Guy De Champlagne


    It’s why the standard conservative rhetoric on racism...
     
    "Racism" has never been a valid word, with a definite meaning. It's been slippery from the start. Same with "sexism" and, God save us, "homophobia". These are weapons, not words.

    At least democracy, republic, liberal, socialism, etc, actually meant something once, stretched out of recognition as they may be today.

    Replies: @Rob McX

    Same with “sexism” and, God save us, “homophobia”.

    If you want an example of a homophobe in the etymologically correct sense, there’s Jay Thomas Johnson. He murdered two gays in Minneapolis in 1991, one of them a former state senator. He said he wanted to rid America of homosexuals and slow down the spread of AIDS. There’s surprisingly little about him online. He’d be much better known if it weren’t for the inconvenient fact that he is gay and HIV positive himself.

    • Replies: @Rob McX
    @Rob McX

    Oh, and I forgot to mention, he's also black.

    , @Reg Cæsar
    @Rob McX


    He’d be much better known if it weren’t for the inconvenient fact that he is gay and HIV positive himself.
     
    Never heard of the guy. I lived there in 1991, but spent that summer working in Alaska. The story must have been dead by the time I got back.


    https://www.newsbreak.com/minnesota/minneapolis/news/1513064726457/murder-of-joel-larson-by-jay-thomas-johnson-spread-fear-through-the-gay-community-in-minneapolis-in-1991


    https://www.monstersandcritics.com/tv/true-crime/murder-of-joel-larson-by-jay-thomas-johnson-spread-fear-through-the-gay-community-in-minneapolis/

    Ouch-- one of those links informed me that Jerry Jeff Walker has passed. I just mentioned him in a comment this week. The Curse of the House of Unz?

    , @Reg Cæsar
    @Rob McX


    If you want an example of a homophobe in the etymologically correct sense...
     
    ...it has nothing do with poofters. Literally, it means "fear of the same".

    In other words, Steve's "leapfrog" phenomenon. Or just straight men's disgust at other men's bodies, which is particularly strong in me. Never could stomach porn, even the straight kind. There is always a guy present. Ugh.

    Replies: @syonredux, @Rob McX, @Dissident

  93. @Rob McX
    @Reg Cæsar


    Same with “sexism” and, God save us, “homophobia”.
     
    If you want an example of a homophobe in the etymologically correct sense, there's Jay Thomas Johnson. He murdered two gays in Minneapolis in 1991, one of them a former state senator. He said he wanted to rid America of homosexuals and slow down the spread of AIDS. There's surprisingly little about him online. He'd be much better known if it weren't for the inconvenient fact that he is gay and HIV positive himself.

    Replies: @Rob McX, @Reg Cæsar, @Reg Cæsar

    Oh, and I forgot to mention, he’s also black.

  94. The data are indisputable. QED.

  95. @Reg Cæsar

    The data is indisputable...
     
    Well, we know Kendi didn't excel at Latin.

    Why do Black and Latinx children...
     
    Or Spanish.

    Also, racial identifiers such as black aren't capitalized in English. So Ibram Stoker vampirizes three languages in one rant.

    Hey, why not add some mangled Pequot or Penibscot? Better yet, just mention Bĕijīng, which not one American in fifty can pronounce. I sure can't, which is why I use the English-- Peking.

    Replies: @El Dato, @Guy De Champlagne, @MBlanc46

    OK, reg, you beat me to it.

  96. @Guy De Champlagne
    @Reg Cæsar

    The correct form of the English language is ultimately determined by the usage of the elite media and elite universities. So in addition to looking like a pathetic pissant pedant, you're propping up your enemies and at best counting down to that pedantry's obsolescence. Sad!

    Replies: @RichardTaylor, @Reg Cæsar, @MBlanc46

    Just bugger off, Guy, eh?

  97. @Rob McX
    @Reg Cæsar


    Same with “sexism” and, God save us, “homophobia”.
     
    If you want an example of a homophobe in the etymologically correct sense, there's Jay Thomas Johnson. He murdered two gays in Minneapolis in 1991, one of them a former state senator. He said he wanted to rid America of homosexuals and slow down the spread of AIDS. There's surprisingly little about him online. He'd be much better known if it weren't for the inconvenient fact that he is gay and HIV positive himself.

    Replies: @Rob McX, @Reg Cæsar, @Reg Cæsar

    He’d be much better known if it weren’t for the inconvenient fact that he is gay and HIV positive himself.

    Never heard of the guy. I lived there in 1991, but spent that summer working in Alaska. The story must have been dead by the time I got back.

    https://www.newsbreak.com/minnesota/minneapolis/news/1513064726457/murder-of-joel-larson-by-jay-thomas-johnson-spread-fear-through-the-gay-community-in-minneapolis-in-1991

    https://www.monstersandcritics.com/tv/true-crime/murder-of-joel-larson-by-jay-thomas-johnson-spread-fear-through-the-gay-community-in-minneapolis/

    Ouch– one of those links informed me that Jerry Jeff Walker has passed. I just mentioned him in a comment this week. The Curse of the House of Unz?

  98. @Rob McX
    @Reg Cæsar


    Same with “sexism” and, God save us, “homophobia”.
     
    If you want an example of a homophobe in the etymologically correct sense, there's Jay Thomas Johnson. He murdered two gays in Minneapolis in 1991, one of them a former state senator. He said he wanted to rid America of homosexuals and slow down the spread of AIDS. There's surprisingly little about him online. He'd be much better known if it weren't for the inconvenient fact that he is gay and HIV positive himself.

    Replies: @Rob McX, @Reg Cæsar, @Reg Cæsar

    If you want an example of a homophobe in the etymologically correct sense…

    …it has nothing do with poofters. Literally, it means “fear of the same”.

    In other words, Steve’s “leapfrog” phenomenon. Or just straight men’s disgust at other men’s bodies, which is particularly strong in me. Never could stomach porn, even the straight kind. There is always a guy present. Ugh.

    • Replies: @syonredux
    @Reg Cæsar


    Never could stomach porn, even the straight kind. There is always a guy present. Ugh.
     
    Well, there's always girl-on-girl.....

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xh3bWA5FXPM

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    , @Rob McX
    @Reg Cæsar


    …it has nothing do with poofters. Literally, it means “fear of the same”.
     
    That's what I meant. Johnson feared or hated his own kind. The English serial killer Colin Ireland was probably gay too.
    , @Dissident
    @Reg Cæsar


    Never could stomach porn, even the straight kind. There is always a guy present. Ugh.
     
    So now "porn", unqualified, is simply assumed to refer to the hardcore variety that exhibits, in exquisite, fully explicit detail and focus, live individuals engaging in actual acts of lewd, typically depraved, carnal intimacy? How far we've degenerated.

    Back in the day, hardcore porn for a kid was stealth access to his parents' richly illustrated Joy of Sex books...

  99. @Reg Cæsar
    @Rob McX


    If you want an example of a homophobe in the etymologically correct sense...
     
    ...it has nothing do with poofters. Literally, it means "fear of the same".

    In other words, Steve's "leapfrog" phenomenon. Or just straight men's disgust at other men's bodies, which is particularly strong in me. Never could stomach porn, even the straight kind. There is always a guy present. Ugh.

    Replies: @syonredux, @Rob McX, @Dissident

    Never could stomach porn, even the straight kind. There is always a guy present. Ugh.

    Well, there’s always girl-on-girl…..

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @syonredux


    Well, there’s always girl-on-girl…..

     

    I prefer girl-on-me. Live beats Memorex every time.

    Replies: @syonredux

  100. @syonredux
    @Reg Cæsar


    Never could stomach porn, even the straight kind. There is always a guy present. Ugh.
     
    Well, there's always girl-on-girl.....

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xh3bWA5FXPM

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    Well, there’s always girl-on-girl…..

    I prefer girl-on-me. Live beats Memorex every time.

    • Replies: @syonredux
    @Reg Cæsar


    Well, there’s always girl-on-girl…..

    I prefer girl-on-me. Live beats Memorex every time.
     
    In that case, there's always girl-girl-on-guy......
  101. @Reg Cæsar
    @Rob McX


    If you want an example of a homophobe in the etymologically correct sense...
     
    ...it has nothing do with poofters. Literally, it means "fear of the same".

    In other words, Steve's "leapfrog" phenomenon. Or just straight men's disgust at other men's bodies, which is particularly strong in me. Never could stomach porn, even the straight kind. There is always a guy present. Ugh.

    Replies: @syonredux, @Rob McX, @Dissident

    …it has nothing do with poofters. Literally, it means “fear of the same”.

    That’s what I meant. Johnson feared or hated his own kind. The English serial killer Colin Ireland was probably gay too.

  102. Because we’re not supposed to talk about all this.

    I doubt anyone lately has tried policing Kendi’s language, or restricted his access to social media.

  103. @Jason y
    Many in the HBD sphere, including our blog host, wouldn't have predicted that Asians would pull away as they have. I don't think anyone would have predicted a divergence b/n Asians and all other races, certainly not of this magnitude over such a short span.

    So, what's going on?

    Replies: @IHTG, @Ganderson, @Dratmes, @Anonymous Jew

    If (Fancy) Asian adoptees slightly outscore Whites, positively selected Asians should do far better. No surprise there. We might also be seeing some dysgenic effects with Whites (loosing a couple IQ points each generation or so). So Whites lose a few IQ points, the Asians here are positively selected, and what should be a small IQ difference suddenly becomes more significant.

  104. @Reg Cæsar
    @syonredux


    Well, there’s always girl-on-girl…..

     

    I prefer girl-on-me. Live beats Memorex every time.

    Replies: @syonredux

    Well, there’s always girl-on-girl…..

    I prefer girl-on-me. Live beats Memorex every time.

    In that case, there’s always girl-girl-on-guy……

  105. @Hypnotoad666
    @Jack D


    BUT it [the Ukraine Famine] was not what they planned to happen, it was just an unfortunate side effect of the re-establishment of order at the end of the Revolution. The goal was supposedly equality but it just didn’t work out that way.
     
    In Seeing Like a State, James Scott made, I thought, a pretty compelling case that the Soviet famines were neither deliberate starvation nor misguided ideology. Rather, they were simply caused by the Bolsheviks' desire to extract food from the peasantry without paying for it.

    The first wave of starvation was due to peasants hiding, destroying, and refusing to grow grain in response to ruinous commie expropriation. The second wave of starvation was caused when the commies imposed forced collectivization. But collectivization was done for the principal purpose of "solving" the prior expropriation problem by having the state centrally control the production process from start to finish.

    Intent and motivation are always slippery issues. There were true believers who imagined collectivization would be a boon to productivity. There were also cynics who thought that starving off recalcitrant enemies of the state was a collateral benefit. But I think the state resource-control theory (with callous indifference to the human cost), seems to best fit the facts.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    Thanks.

  106. @syonredux
    @Anon

    Franklin's influence pops up all over the place in the 18th-early 19th centuries.
    for example, writing to Joseph Priestly in 1780, Franklin made a bold prophecy:


    It is impossible to imagine the height to which may be carried in a thousand years, the power of man over matter. We may perhaps learn to deprive large masses of their gravity, and give them absolute levity, for the sake of easy transport. Agriculture may diminish its labor and double its produce; all diseases may by sure means be prevented or cured, not excepting even that of old age, and our lives lengthened at pleasure even beyond the antediluvian standard.
     
    Indeed, Franklin would even go beyond this, and and state that” mind would one day become omnipotent over matter.”

    William Godwin was mesmerized by this phrase, and, in his Enquiry Concerning Political Justice, argues (citing Franklin) that one day Man would triumph over the “infirmities of our nature” (age, sleep, disease, melancholy, etc).

    As I noted upthread, Malthus was influenced by Franklin’s Observations Concerning the Increase of Mankind when he wrote his Essay on the Principle of Population (which, in turn, was a great stimulus to Darwin).Well, Malthus’ 1798 essay was, to a certain extant, written as a refutation of Godwin’s 1793 Enquiry.

    And, of course, Godwin was the father of Mary Shelley, whose Frankenstein can be seen as the nightmare version of Godwin’s Franklin-inspired scientific prophecies, which makes Ben Franklin…..the grandfather of Frankenstein’s Monster?

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    In Darwin’s library there’s his copy of Malthus in which we can see Darwin underlined the part where Malthus writes “As Dr Franklin noted …”

  107. @Jack D
    @El Dato

    It IS what happened (at the end of Animal Farm the pigs are sleeping in the humans' beds) BUT it was not what they planned to happen, it was just an unfortunate side effect of the re-establishment of order at the end of the Revolution. The goal was supposedly equality but it just didn't work out that way.

    For these people, re-establishing a new ruling class with them at the head of it is the explicit goal from day 1.

    Replies: @Hypnotoad666, @Adam Smith

    re-establishing a new ruling class with them at the head of it is the explicit goal from day 1.

    Is this not always the case?

  108. @Bardon Kaldian
    I don't need any test to see what life has shown me. One can simply check the success of the best or the most prominent people in various areas.

    White Europeans are good at everything, with Protestants being better in business & exact sciences, and Catholics in arts & politics.

    Jews are like white Europeans, but more like Protestants.

    Blacks are good only at some sports & music (or were as music performers).

    East Asians are like white Protestants, just more mechanical, which is compensated by working harder.

    Mestizos are good at organized crime.

    White Hispanics are ... well, see for yourself:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rg7iQ2CjdPw

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KzlqmQvZ0J4

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rCKurYpmRMo

    Replies: @anon, @Achmed E. Newman, @James O'Meara

    I just got done watching the 1st one, Bardon. That is the funniest thing I’ve seen in a long, long, time! I’m in tears… literally, pretty much.

    Thanks.

  109. This has probably been discussed before, but what the heck happened to American Indians in recent years? Just more kids taking the test?

  110. In a recent article, James Thompson pointed out Jensen’s rule of thumb: if a test is biased against a group, that group will do better in real life than the test predicts.

    I hope that Professor Ibram X. Kendi will consider whether Jensen’s rule of thumb provides evidence for or against the notion that standardized tests are biased against Black and brown Americans.

    I wager that he will either dodge the question, or argue that Jensen was a racist and therefore nothing he produced is worthy of discussion.

    https://www.unz.com/jthompson/35-myths-debunked/

    • Replies: @Dieter Kief
    @James N. Kennett

    Yeah right, but - way too detailed and too long for Ibram X. Kendi - he is to the point - and fast - no detour (no reasoning) - just the pure theses - that's how he manages to navigate the sea of problems = our detached, derailed, defrosted and defrigerated sour (= de-sugared) area of racism and injustices which - our times are made of.

    (Now I'm too long too. It's hard to be short enough and still encompass the genius of Ibram X. Kendi. - Sigh).

  111. @James N. Kennett
    In a recent article, James Thompson pointed out Jensen’s rule of thumb: if a test is biased against a group, that group will do better in real life than the test predicts.

    I hope that Professor Ibram X. Kendi will consider whether Jensen's rule of thumb provides evidence for or against the notion that standardized tests are biased against Black and brown Americans.

    I wager that he will either dodge the question, or argue that Jensen was a racist and therefore nothing he produced is worthy of discussion.

    https://www.unz.com/jthompson/35-myths-debunked/

    Replies: @Dieter Kief

    Yeah right, but – way too detailed and too long for Ibram X. Kendi – he is to the point – and fast – no detour (no reasoning) – just the pure theses – that’s how he manages to navigate the sea of problems = our detached, derailed, defrosted and defrigerated sour (= de-sugared) area of racism and injustices which – our times are made of.

    (Now I’m too long too. It’s hard to be short enough and still encompass the genius of Ibram X. Kendi. – Sigh).

  112. As it turns out there is a test battery that has been in use for decades that could be repurposed as a Kendi-approved non-racist entrance exam for elite schools.

    Tests/evaluations include:

    40-yard dash[7]
    Bench press (225 lb repetitions)[7]
    Vertical jump[7]
    Broad jump[7]
    20-yard shuttle[7]
    3 cone drill[7]
    60-yard shuttle[7]
    Position-specific drills[7]
    Interviews – each team is allowed 60 interviews in 15-minute intervals[8]
    Physical measurements[8]
    Injury evaluation[8]
    Drug screen[8]
    The Cybex test[8]
    The Wonderlic test[9]

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NFL_Scouting_Combine#Tests_and_evaluations

  113. @anon
    @Bardon Kaldian


    White Europeans are good at everything, with Protestants being better in business & exact sciences, and Catholics in arts & politics.
     
    Judging from the way Northern Europe is run vs. Southern Europe, I'd say Protestants are also better at Politics. Catholics and Orthodox Christians run corrupt countries, because all sins are forgiven after three Hail Marys. Protestants are also better at (classical) music, but I will give Catholics the edge in arts. One major flaw with Protestants: too gullible - they assume everyone is as honest as them, which is why they are doomed in a world full of non white-Protestants, unless they wise up in a hurry and take back their countries.

    Jews are like white Europeans, but more like Protestants.
     
    Jews are the opposite of Protestants. The two most salient virtues Protestants hold dear are integrity and self-restraint, two things Jews wouldn't know if they hit them in the face. Also Protestants are good at farming and making things with their hands, two things Jews have never been good at. Jews are analytical and have good linguistic humor, or used to, before they became all woke.

    East Asians are like white Protestants, just more mechanical, which is compensated by working harder.
     
    minus the integrity which is the most important thing.

    Mestizos are good at organized crime.
     
    The ones who aren't into crime are hard workers, but sloppy, like their food, which is why it's called Messycan food.

    I will add:

    Indians are like Jews, clannish, loquacious, power/money hungry, full of chutzpah which in English means shameless dishonesty, only not as cunning or clever.

    Replies: @Bardon Kaldian, @Hibernian, @Dissident

    One major flaw with Protestants: too gullible – they assume everyone is as honest as them

    Sure. That was the basis for the Know Nothings, Blanshardism, etc.

  114. @Mike Pierson, Davenport Rector, Midfielder

    Standardized tests have become the most effective racist weapon ever devised to objectively degrade Black and brown minds and legally exclude their bodies.
     
    Well I'd say that's pretty conclusive there. Tests are a racist weapon devised to legally exclude bodies. So, henceforth no more tests of any kind, anywhere. Especially paternity tests which have one hell of a disparate impact problem. Btw, why is the word "brown" not capitalized? Is Kenji tryna exclude brown bodies? I'd say he gots some 'splaining to do.

    Replies: @MEH 0910, @AliNoNo, @James O'Meara

    “Well I’d say that’s pretty conclusive there. Tests are a racist weapon devised to legally exclude bodies. So, henceforth no more tests of any kind, anywhere.”

    I predict (tho in an environment where one constantly hears “not the Onion” prediction is as easy as imagining the stupidest outcome) that this will next be deployed against laws. The disproportionate number of black convicts proves laws are designed to legally incarcerate black bodies.

  115. @Bardon Kaldian
    I don't need any test to see what life has shown me. One can simply check the success of the best or the most prominent people in various areas.

    White Europeans are good at everything, with Protestants being better in business & exact sciences, and Catholics in arts & politics.

    Jews are like white Europeans, but more like Protestants.

    Blacks are good only at some sports & music (or were as music performers).

    East Asians are like white Protestants, just more mechanical, which is compensated by working harder.

    Mestizos are good at organized crime.

    White Hispanics are ... well, see for yourself:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rg7iQ2CjdPw

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KzlqmQvZ0J4

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rCKurYpmRMo

    Replies: @anon, @Achmed E. Newman, @James O'Meara

    An excellent precis.

    If I may, I would expand on this:

    “Jews are like white Europeans, but more like Protestants.”

    Meaning, good at politics (hence their dominance in the field currently) but at art, not so much. However, once you get the government, you can force people to fund, praise etc. your crap art.

    Alan Watts has a passage somewhere about the ugliness of Protestant churches and Protestantism generally, but that it is so extreme as to become a “fascinating ugliness” that has its own homey charm.

    • Replies: @Dissident
    @James O'Meara


    but at art, not so much.
     
    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/de/Road_to_Versailles_at_Louveciennes_1869_Camille_Pissarro.jpg
    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c7/Camille_Pissarro_012.jpg
    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/53/Camille_Pissarro_-_Self-portrait2_-_Tate_Britain.jpg

    Replies: @Bardon Kaldian

    , @Art Deco
    @James O'Meara

    Old school protestant churches lack ornamentation. They're not otherwise ugly, as a rule. Post-war church architecture is banal and commonly ugly, but that's true pretty much across the denominational board. AFAIK, eastern Churches are the only ones resisting. The worst offenders are Catholic clergy, who will trash fine old buildings.

    , @Bardon Kaldian
    @James O'Meara


    Alan Watts has a passage somewhere about the ugliness of Protestant churches and Protestantism generally, but that it is so extreme as to become a “fascinating ugliness” that has its own homey charm.
     
    You mean something like "so bad it's good" category in movies?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jGiqc3HSxEg
  116. @anon
    @Bardon Kaldian


    White Europeans are good at everything, with Protestants being better in business & exact sciences, and Catholics in arts & politics.
     
    Judging from the way Northern Europe is run vs. Southern Europe, I'd say Protestants are also better at Politics. Catholics and Orthodox Christians run corrupt countries, because all sins are forgiven after three Hail Marys. Protestants are also better at (classical) music, but I will give Catholics the edge in arts. One major flaw with Protestants: too gullible - they assume everyone is as honest as them, which is why they are doomed in a world full of non white-Protestants, unless they wise up in a hurry and take back their countries.

    Jews are like white Europeans, but more like Protestants.
     
    Jews are the opposite of Protestants. The two most salient virtues Protestants hold dear are integrity and self-restraint, two things Jews wouldn't know if they hit them in the face. Also Protestants are good at farming and making things with their hands, two things Jews have never been good at. Jews are analytical and have good linguistic humor, or used to, before they became all woke.

    East Asians are like white Protestants, just more mechanical, which is compensated by working harder.
     
    minus the integrity which is the most important thing.

    Mestizos are good at organized crime.
     
    The ones who aren't into crime are hard workers, but sloppy, like their food, which is why it's called Messycan food.

    I will add:

    Indians are like Jews, clannish, loquacious, power/money hungry, full of chutzpah which in English means shameless dishonesty, only not as cunning or clever.

    Replies: @Bardon Kaldian, @Hibernian, @Dissident

    full of chutzpah which in English means shameless dishonesty,

    I am not aware of any definition of [c*]hutzpah that includes dishonesty. (Obviously, [c*]hutzpah can and indeed often does involve dishonesty of one form of another, but dishonesty is neither inherent nor necessary to the concept.)

    https://www.dictionary.com/browse/chutzpah

    chutzpah
    hutzpah
    / (ˈxʊtspə) /
    noun
    informal shameless audacity; impudence

    [Collins English Dictionary – Complete & Unabridged 2012 Digital Edition
    © William Collins Sons & Co. Ltd. 1979, 1986 © HarperCollins
    Publishers 1998, 2000, 2003, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2009, 2012]

    Additional entry from same Dictionary.com page below break.

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    Cultural definitions for chutzpah
    chutzpah
    [ (khoot-spuh, hoot-spuh) ]

    Yiddish term for courage bordering on arrogance, roughly equivalent to “nerve” (in the slang sense): “It took a lot of chutzpah to make such a controversial statement.”

    [The New Dictionary of Cultural Literacy, Third Edition
    Copyright © 2005 by Houghton Mifflin Harcourt Publishing Company. Published by Houghton Mifflin Harcourt Publishing Company. All rights reserved.]

    *While admittedly the most widely used for rendering the Hebrew letters (c)hes [ ח] and (c)hof [ ך, כ] into English transliteration, I find this ch construction highly problematic. Those unfamiliar with the proper pronunciation invariably render the “ch” as either the same sound as in cheese, or as if it were an sh sound, as in chalet or Charlotte.

  117. @James O'Meara
    @Bardon Kaldian

    An excellent precis.

    If I may, I would expand on this:

    "Jews are like white Europeans, but more like Protestants."

    Meaning, good at politics (hence their dominance in the field currently) but at art, not so much. However, once you get the government, you can force people to fund, praise etc. your crap art.

    Alan Watts has a passage somewhere about the ugliness of Protestant churches and Protestantism generally, but that it is so extreme as to become a "fascinating ugliness" that has its own homey charm.

    Replies: @Dissident, @Art Deco, @Bardon Kaldian

    but at art, not so much.

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    • Replies: @Bardon Kaldian
    @Dissident

    I would add Modigliani, Soutine, Chagall, Mme Delaunay & a few others.

    Replies: @Dissident

  118. @James O'Meara
    @Bardon Kaldian

    An excellent precis.

    If I may, I would expand on this:

    "Jews are like white Europeans, but more like Protestants."

    Meaning, good at politics (hence their dominance in the field currently) but at art, not so much. However, once you get the government, you can force people to fund, praise etc. your crap art.

    Alan Watts has a passage somewhere about the ugliness of Protestant churches and Protestantism generally, but that it is so extreme as to become a "fascinating ugliness" that has its own homey charm.

    Replies: @Dissident, @Art Deco, @Bardon Kaldian

    Old school protestant churches lack ornamentation. They’re not otherwise ugly, as a rule. Post-war church architecture is banal and commonly ugly, but that’s true pretty much across the denominational board. AFAIK, eastern Churches are the only ones resisting. The worst offenders are Catholic clergy, who will trash fine old buildings.

  119. @Reg Cæsar
    @Rob McX


    If you want an example of a homophobe in the etymologically correct sense...
     
    ...it has nothing do with poofters. Literally, it means "fear of the same".

    In other words, Steve's "leapfrog" phenomenon. Or just straight men's disgust at other men's bodies, which is particularly strong in me. Never could stomach porn, even the straight kind. There is always a guy present. Ugh.

    Replies: @syonredux, @Rob McX, @Dissident

    Never could stomach porn, even the straight kind. There is always a guy present. Ugh.

    So now “porn”, unqualified, is simply assumed to refer to the hardcore variety that exhibits, in exquisite, fully explicit detail and focus, live individuals engaging in actual acts of lewd, typically depraved, carnal intimacy? How far we’ve degenerated.

    Back in the day, hardcore porn for a kid was stealth access to his parents’ richly illustrated Joy of Sex books…

  120. @James O'Meara
    @Bardon Kaldian

    An excellent precis.

    If I may, I would expand on this:

    "Jews are like white Europeans, but more like Protestants."

    Meaning, good at politics (hence their dominance in the field currently) but at art, not so much. However, once you get the government, you can force people to fund, praise etc. your crap art.

    Alan Watts has a passage somewhere about the ugliness of Protestant churches and Protestantism generally, but that it is so extreme as to become a "fascinating ugliness" that has its own homey charm.

    Replies: @Dissident, @Art Deco, @Bardon Kaldian

    Alan Watts has a passage somewhere about the ugliness of Protestant churches and Protestantism generally, but that it is so extreme as to become a “fascinating ugliness” that has its own homey charm.

    You mean something like “so bad it’s good” category in movies?

  121. @Dissident
    @James O'Meara


    but at art, not so much.
     
    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/de/Road_to_Versailles_at_Louveciennes_1869_Camille_Pissarro.jpg
    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c7/Camille_Pissarro_012.jpg
    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/53/Camille_Pissarro_-_Self-portrait2_-_Tate_Britain.jpg

    Replies: @Bardon Kaldian

    I would add Modigliani, Soutine, Chagall, Mme Delaunay & a few others.

    • Replies: @Dissident
    @Bardon Kaldian

    Thanks.

    Here's two more:
    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/3c/Krestin_%E2%80%93_Portrait_of_a_Jewish_boy.jpg
    Lazar Krestin

    https://bluemountaingallery.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/Segal_19_yellow-house.jpg
    Barbara Segal (contemporary)

  122. @Bardon Kaldian
    @Dissident

    I would add Modigliani, Soutine, Chagall, Mme Delaunay & a few others.

    Replies: @Dissident

    Thanks.

    Here’s two more:

    Lazar Krestin


    Barbara Segal (contemporary)

    • Thanks: Bardon Kaldian

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