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Most of the festivities surrounding #CincodeMayo in the US are textbook examples of cultural appropriation, relegating the history and culture of Mexican people to novelty items. Mexican culture cannot be reduced to tacos, oversized sombreros and piñatas. https://t.co/kffsaJWPUJ
— Southern Poverty Law Center (@splcenter) May 5, 2018
My vague impression is that real Mexicans drive around L.A. waving Mexican flags on Mexican Independence Day, September 16, while Cinco de Mayo is mostly a holiday in America to drink Mexican beer.
CdM has become nothing more than an ethnic-tinged drinking excuse. See also: Mardi Gras, St. Patrick’s Day.
There. We’ve employed yet another irrelevant issue to scold white gentiles. Send us money.
The “Cinco de Quatro” concept from the 4th season of Arrested Development could gain some real traction here. Hold your own CdM the day before in order to steal the thunder and/or supplies.
I don’t know anybody except the Cholos who gives a rat’s ass about Cinco de Mayo, so they’re just culturally appropriating themselves.
Pray tell, who does SPLC thinks celebrate Cinco de Mayo in the United States besides Mexicans, either legal or illegal?
I can respect that. The holiday is totally Mexican. I will not appropriate it, and I will not celebrate it. I will, in fact, forget about it entirely, if I’m allowed to. Do Mexicans put on Bermuda shorts, drink craft beer, and grill burgers on the 4th of July? I don’t think so.
CdM in San Francisco was put on by Mexicans each year (big parade and festivities) and was used as an excuse by whites to party. It was the brown version of Saint Patrick’s Day with no more or less cultural appropriation.
And don’t forget palefaces; if you Don’t celebrate Cinco de Mayo you’re not being inclusive, you’re being exclusionary, you’re intentionally ignoring diversity you racists nogoodniks.
Actually, from what I’ve read Cinco de Mayo is NOT a Mexican holiday, in that very few people in Mexico has ever heard of it (it exists, but as an obscure third- or fourth-tier anniversary, maybe something like Woodrow Wilson’s Birthday). Hence, when Mexican immigrants to America discover it’s a big deal here, they assume it must be some sort of strange American custom.
Supposedly, it got started because the trickle of Mexican immigrants in the 1920s were quite hostile to the ruling Mexican government, and wanted to pick a different national celebration. But it remained obscure, until Chicano activists in the 1960s happened to elevate it as their ethno-nationalist holiday because they were so totally ignorant of Mexican culture, a little like establishing Kwaanza as an African holiday.
At least that’s my vague recollection of the amusing story I remember hearing many, many years ago, and I’m sure more knowledgeable commenters can correct my errors.
The schools love to celebrate it to degrade and bully the White Kids.
And the gestapo police get to set up the same kind of check points they set up on Memorial Day, July 4 Labor Day and New Years so they can prevent drunk driving Ha!!!
Just another way for the uniformed tax collectors to issue tickets maybe arrest a few guys with unpaid tickets.Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
It’s not cultural appropriation because we are a nation over immigrants. It’s our culture too. Founding mother Emma Lazarus gave us the tired, poor, huddled masses yearning to breathe free and all their cultural patrimony. Sombreros on Cinco de mayo are part of the bargain. And why are they selling us tequila for anyway, they must know what we are going to do with it.
Interesting that only white people have a problem with the southern poverty law center
That tells you something right there
That tells you something right thereReplies: @San Fernando Curt, @Malcolm X-Lax, @Anonymous, @Reg Cæsar, @expat47
Only white people are attacked by the Southern Poverty Law Center.
https://twitter.com/BrowningMachine/status/993148332192223232
I have seen Irish bars here have Cinco Da Mayo parties. All Mexican restaurant owners like it too. Salsa sales have outdone ketchup sales for 20 years https://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2013/10/actually-salsa-dethroned-ketchup-20-years-ago/309844/
I prefer Saint Patrick’s day with some corned beef and a Guinness and people wearing the green and ridiculous hats.
So, ketchup may in fact be consumed more often than salsa everyday, but the amounts differ hence a disparity.Replies: @Clyde
All kinds of white people most of whom have never set foot in Mexico use it as an excuse to get drunk. It has been almost two months since St. Patrick’s Day for these people. They will take any excuse to party.
I mostly okay with a holiday based on a French Army getting its ass kicked in North America.
I’m very PC about Cinco de Mayo. In order to avoid appropriating Latinx culture, I spend the entire 24 hours doing Anglo stuff: reading James Thurber, watching Howard Hawks movies, eating roast beef, etc
Cinco de Mayo commemorates the Battle of Puebla, one of the few battles in history where a Mexican army beat a European one. Just saying…
Who are these mysterious SPLC hombres to tell me how large my sombrero should be?
You haven’t made it in America until there’s an obscure holiday punctuated with drinking in your people’s honor. To may taco-bending pseudo-countrymen, Salud!
Of course Columbus Day is disappearing. Liberals are going afte Thanksgiving too.
Maybe combine all the drinko de mayo type holidays into a 5 day fiesta like the Greek bacchus fest. Weekend to recover and then back to work.Replies: @Corn
That tells you something right thereReplies: @San Fernando Curt, @Malcolm X-Lax, @Anonymous, @Reg Cæsar, @expat47
The main criticism here of the SPLC is that they’re a bunch of money-grubbing anti-white jews…so you might be onto something.
Morris Dees, the Founder and Chief Trial Attorney whose name is found at the top of the page at splcenter DOT org/about/staff is not a Jew. That much, at least, was conceded in at least one of the recent past iSteve threads on the $PLC, by commenters who were not exactly known for their love of Jews-- however defined. Of the remaining eleven names listed on the afore-cited page on the $PLC web site, I count no less than four that appear decidedly non-Jewish to me: LaPointe; Dinielli; Herrington; and Costello.
I do not deny that a disproportionately high number of Jews are represented in the causes championed by the $PLC and similar entities. But it must be remembered that neither such Jews nor such causes are by any means representative of Judaism. Quite the contrary. And, of course, that plenty of non-Jews are involved in all of the causes-in-question, at every level. I elaborate upon these matters in a number of past comments, most recently this one. Excerpt:Note that the $PLC has attacked not only traditionalist Christians for daring to be faithful to their principles but also Jews as well, see, for example,
JONAH Trial: Expert Witness for SPLC Concedes Sexual Orientation is Fluid and Can ChangeReplies: @Steve Sailer, @hyperbola
The $LPc will run afoul of every beer and tequila company selling like crazy. My money is on Corona and Dos Eqius.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/nathanielparishflannery/2012/06/30/anheuser-busch-inbev-buys-corona-producer-the-last-major-family-owned-brewery-in-mexico/#d4f5d6845282
You want cultural appropriation? Try a bunch of Southern Baptists deciding to portray the saint who bitch-slapped Arius as a pudgy goofball so they could sell more sugar-water. Or Kroger insisting that Easter is “all about family.”
Supposedly, it got started because the trickle of Mexican immigrants in the 1920s were quite hostile to the ruling Mexican government, and wanted to pick a different national celebration. But it remained obscure, until Chicano activists in the 1960s happened to elevate it as their ethno-nationalist holiday because they were so totally ignorant of Mexican culture, a little like establishing Kwaanza as an African holiday.
At least that's my vague recollection of the amusing story I remember hearing many, many years ago, and I'm sure more knowledgeable commenters can correct my errors.Replies: @Yak-15, @Haxo Angmark, @Alden
Is Tiny Duck your learning machine experiment?
Supposedly, it got started because the trickle of Mexican immigrants in the 1920s were quite hostile to the ruling Mexican government, and wanted to pick a different national celebration. But it remained obscure, until Chicano activists in the 1960s happened to elevate it as their ethno-nationalist holiday because they were so totally ignorant of Mexican culture, a little like establishing Kwaanza as an African holiday.
At least that's my vague recollection of the amusing story I remember hearing many, many years ago, and I'm sure more knowledgeable commenters can correct my errors.Replies: @Yak-15, @Haxo Angmark, @Alden
“maybe something like Woodrow Wilson’s birthday”.
Since we can learn much more by commemorating the birthdays of monumentally destructive people like Brother Woodrow (Federal Reserve, Income Tax, wrong-sides WW1, then screws up the peace setttlement so badly that the same war breaks out again 20 years later) than we can by celebrating plaster saints, I suspect that
Emperor Haxo IV will decree December 28th as a Day of National Remorse. In fact, since Brother Woodrow also invaded Mexico, it could be combined with Cinco de Mayo.
Here is a Jewish actor appropriating Mexican identity, flanked by women of color who are being used as sexual props:
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrYtD7gSWsI
naah, he's a Marrano
> flanked by women of color
Ethiopian-Jewish chicks put out fast. That's why he grabbed them
Why is there no outrage at the cultural appropriation of being a white man by Michael Jackson or Dwayne Johnson? In fact since Europeans or Middle Easterners probably gave literacy, metal working, and the wheel to Africans wasn't that the greatest cultural appropriation of all?
Was it ever anything else?
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Eli Wallach was the pseudo-Mexican of choice for a while:
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He’s imitating his late sailing buddy Fernando Lamas, the movie star from Argentina.
Do Homo Mexicans have Pinko De Gayo?
Fernando Lamas was pretty funny as a naughty guest on the Tonight Show with Johnny Carson:
Craft beer? Pabst..Blue..Ribbon!
Kenobi, you should know that Quattro de Mayo is Star Wars Day, don’t mess with a good thing.
May the 4th be with you.
It’s just another Merchant Approved Holiday.
They glob onto anything different about a day on the calendar and print posters, send out PR news to the local media, so they can have the bimbo airhead chick do a remote at a bar somewhere.
Free drinks for the news crew and some more in the truck to take back to the studio!
Sweetest Day is another one, no booze, just expensive gifts to the womyn…..
If 50 million Latinos decide to pack up and move to our country (uninvited) we have no right to say jack, but if I decide to wear a sombrero on Cinco de Mayo, watch half a million people lose their shit on Twitter.
Pi Day, March 14, is mathematically delicious, and it’s rounded, just like real pie. I think it’s only celebrated in America though, where it’s 3.14 instead of 14.3.
Supposedly, it got started because the trickle of Mexican immigrants in the 1920s were quite hostile to the ruling Mexican government, and wanted to pick a different national celebration. But it remained obscure, until Chicano activists in the 1960s happened to elevate it as their ethno-nationalist holiday because they were so totally ignorant of Mexican culture, a little like establishing Kwaanza as an African holiday.
At least that's my vague recollection of the amusing story I remember hearing many, many years ago, and I'm sure more knowledgeable commenters can correct my errors.Replies: @Yak-15, @Haxo Angmark, @Alden
The beer companies promote it heavily for obvious reasons. And the 99 cent stores make money selling the decorations. And Cambodians make money making and shipping the decorations.
The schools love to celebrate it to degrade and bully the White Kids.
And the gestapo police get to set up the same kind of check points they set up on Memorial Day, July 4 Labor Day and New Years so they can prevent drunk driving Ha!!!
Just another way for the uniformed tax collectors to issue tickets maybe arrest a few guys with unpaid tickets.
I didn't know that things have gotten big enough to warrant the DUI Police-State checkpoints. Yeah, early and late in the month is when they've got to meet the cop budget numbers I guess.
Once everyone's got 3 or 5 Coronas, Modelas, and/or Tecates in him, all the cultural appropriation crap goes right down the pisser with the other 97% of the cheap swill, and everyone gets happy together, American, Mexican, even some SJW's (they are OK people when they are stinkin' drunk, but that's the only time.)
It holds them over till Memorial Day weekend. 3 days to be drunk, sail your boat and have to be rescued by the coast guard
Not exactly.
It’s the first battle after the French army landed. They got food poisoning and the Mexicans won that battle because the French were sick
A few days later they recovered, easily conquered Mexico and ruled for a few years.
French left not because of Mexican military expertise but because Abe Lincoln told the French that as soon as the union defeated the Confederacy he would send American troops to invade Mexico and send the French home.
We sent money, arms and “advisors” to help the Mexican resistance to the French occupation even before our civil war ended
I think Johnson sent some US troops to hover about the Tex Mex border to encourage the French to leave as soon as the civil war ended.
So many wars.
Not much drinking on Columbus Day far as I know. Maybe I’m wrong.
Of course Columbus Day is disappearing. Liberals are going afte Thanksgiving too.
Maybe combine all the drinko de mayo type holidays into a 5 day fiesta like the Greek bacchus fest. Weekend to recover and then back to work.
The SPLC says,
That’s true.
To make a celebration authentically Mexican, you would have to drink some bacteria-infested water, toss your litter on the ground, and pay off the Federales on your way home.
Don’t worry, SPLC, these wonderful Mexican traditions are rapidly working their way into norteamericano culture.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eyCEexG9xjw
"I feel a hot wind on my shoulder
and the touch of a world that is older,
turn the switch and check the number,
leave it on when in bed I slumber.
I hear the rhythms of the music.
I buy the product and never use it.
I hear the talking of the DJ,
can't understand just what does he say?
I'm on a mexican radio.
I'm on a mexican radio.
I dial it in and tune the station.
They talk about the US inflation.
I understand just a little.
No comprende--it's a riddle.
I'm on a mexican radio.
I'm on a mexican radio.
I wish I was in Tijuana
eating barbequed iguana.
I take requests on the telephone.
I'm on a wavelength far from home.
I feel a hot wind on my shoulder.
I dial it in from south of the border.
I hear the talking of the DJ,
can't understand just what does he say?"
Is that Mr. Fredrico V. Reed there, at 02:36, gathering material for his next column?
The thing about Mexico and all other ethnic cultures is that they have high culture and low culture. Tacos - which are delicious - are low cuisine. These are creations made by and for peasants. Everyone use to tell me the try the 'real' Mexican food for which you had to travel into the interior away from the border towns.
And it's true. Traveling in the heart of Mexico I never ate a taco. Anymore than you will probably eat Chop Suey if you visit China. The Mexicans gave tremendous gift to world civilization when they invented corn (maize) from teosinte. If I were Mexican I would swell with pride with every tortilla.
Mexicans themselves are adept at cultural appropriation. Mariachis are indeed a terrible form of vocal music but Mexico itself has given the world an awful lot of Italian opera singers. Obviously there is Placido Domingo. Carreras like Aragall nowadays is probably not considered Spanish anymore (they are Catalan). Carreras first sang as a boy in Mexico. Araiza was the best tenor of his type in the world for much of my lifetime. And of course who can forget Miquel Fleta - the guy who first sang "Nessun Dorma"? Mexico has always produced great Italian tenors.Replies: @Johann Ricke
More than one form of appropriation, I’d say.
Subsequently celebrated as Taco Tuesday.
Around Southern Ohio, Cinco Dr Mayo is highly popular among gringos, esp. rednecks.
The schools love to celebrate it to degrade and bully the White Kids.
And the gestapo police get to set up the same kind of check points they set up on Memorial Day, July 4 Labor Day and New Years so they can prevent drunk driving Ha!!!
Just another way for the uniformed tax collectors to issue tickets maybe arrest a few guys with unpaid tickets.Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
That about sums it up nicely, Anon[257]!
I didn’t know that things have gotten big enough to warrant the DUI Police-State checkpoints. Yeah, early and late in the month is when they’ve got to meet the cop budget numbers I guess.
Once everyone’s got 3 or 5 Coronas, Modelas, and/or Tecates in him, all the cultural appropriation crap goes right down the pisser with the other 97% of the cheap swill, and everyone gets happy together, American, Mexican, even some SJW’s (they are OK people when they are stinkin’ drunk, but that’s the only time.)
Crap, I forgot Dos Equis in my previous comment. ¡ Mucho apologioasos, amigos!
To make a celebration authentically Mexican, you would have to drink some bacteria-infested water, toss your litter on the ground, and pay off the Federales on your way home.
Don't worry, SPLC, these wonderful Mexican traditions are rapidly working their way into norteamericano culture.Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @Pat Boyle
In addition, Buzz, I think the following video bears repeating. It is not cultural appropriation but a teachable moment, if you will, on the Mexican culture. The whole band Wall of Voodoo went to Mexico for the video to rid themselves of their insular American attitudes. They came back more learned and with a new-found taste for barbequed Iguana. (Use vinegar-based sauce, and make sure you’ve got real Iguana, not that cheap soy-based Gila Monster substitute.)
“I feel a hot wind on my shoulder
and the touch of a world that is older,
turn the switch and check the number,
leave it on when in bed I slumber.
I hear the rhythms of the music.
I buy the product and never use it.
I hear the talking of the DJ,
can’t understand just what does he say?
I’m on a mexican radio.
I’m on a mexican radio.
I dial it in and tune the station.
They talk about the US inflation.
I understand just a little.
No comprende–it’s a riddle.
I’m on a mexican radio.
I’m on a mexican radio.
I wish I was in Tijuana
eating barbequed iguana.
I take requests on the telephone.
I’m on a wavelength far from home.
I feel a hot wind on my shoulder.
I dial it in from south of the border.
I hear the talking of the DJ,
can’t understand just what does he say?”
Is that Mr. Fredrico V. Reed there, at 02:36, gathering material for his next column?
That tells you something right thereReplies: @San Fernando Curt, @Malcolm X-Lax, @Anonymous, @Reg Cæsar, @expat47
Is Majid Nawaz white? Because he may be the only person to have actually sued the SPLC.
I hope these sad sack losers push anti-cinco even harder next year.
I think in some countries they have Pi Day on July 22, which is 22/7 – a closer approximation of pi. At least i recall the Derb writing so some time ago. Of course in America a Pi Day in July would be pointless, since the kiddies are all out of school.
That tells you something right thereReplies: @San Fernando Curt, @Malcolm X-Lax, @Anonymous, @Reg Cæsar, @expat47
Interesting that only white people are hired by the SPLC. That tells you something right there, too.
My two best friends are from Mexico and they don’t care about this nonsense. At all.
“Mexican culture cannot be reduced to tacos, oversized sombreros and piñatas.”
Don’t forget the murderousness and driving at night with your headlights off.
¿¡Sombreros, tacos, y piñatas!? I should be so lucky; here in my neck of Mexifornia that is indeed what the Americans get up to, whereas los mexicanos autenticos favour driving drunk, shooting each other, blasting shitty music in residential neighbourhoods until 0400, and so-called side-shows (burnouts, doughnuts, etc. in large parking lots, often violently assaulting any police with the audicity to insist that they stop) – but hey, who are we to impose our cultural norms and our privilege on these true Americans?
Oldie but goodie:
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/728297587418247168?lang=en
The most popular food style in America I'm told is Italian. Can you imagine a place without pizza? So is also for the vast Mexican food deserts on the Eastern Seaboard. Mexican food I think is number two in the US.
Funny, everyone loves and admires the Irish but no one has ever been to an Irish restaurant - a pub maybe to drink but not a real sit down restaurant.Replies: @Corn, @MarkinLA, @hyperbola, @Brutusale, @J.Ross
Of course Columbus Day is disappearing. Liberals are going afte Thanksgiving too.
Maybe combine all the drinko de mayo type holidays into a 5 day fiesta like the Greek bacchus fest. Weekend to recover and then back to work.Replies: @Corn
The week between Christmas and New Year’s should just be declared a holiday week so the workforce could stay home. In my experience there’s not much productivity that week anyway.
I used to drink a lot of Mexican beer until it was pointed out to me that I drank the wrong Mexican beer. Apparently Corona is not appropriate or authentic or something.
1 Countenance > an ethnic-tinged drinking excuse See also: Mardi Gras, St. Patrick’s Day.
motherfucker, are you trying to Irish-wash away the existence of Purim??!?
you ain’t seen boozin’ until you’ve seen Beitar-Jerusalem fans (our version of Soccer Hooligans) diligently obeying the Talmudic injunction to drink until they can no longer tell the diffeence between a shout of “Mordecai” and a shout of “Haman”
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26 Buzz Mohawk > a Jewish actor appropriating Mexican identity
naah, he’s a Marrano
> flanked by women of color
Ethiopian-Jewish chicks put out fast. That’s why he grabbed them
They’ve been culturally appropriated by YT.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/nathanielparishflannery/2012/06/30/anheuser-busch-inbev-buys-corona-producer-the-last-major-family-owned-brewery-in-mexico/#d4f5d6845282
This is pure Alinsky 101 reframing.
Problem: Mexicans and Hondurans and Bangladeshis are breaking in and stealing U.S. citizenship.
Leftist reframe: Americans are stealing their culture.
Through shitposting like this, they think they can put Heritage America on the defensive. “We are not stealing their culture. Not true!” Once you’ve said that, they win.
SPLC and their brethren are mentally ill. Cagey, to be sure, but mentally ill.
Think about how much salsa people use at one time and compare that to the amount of ketchup for a hamburger and fries. I can eat half a container of salsa with chips for a snack. I use a couple of tablespoons for the burger and fries.
So, ketchup may in fact be consumed more often than salsa everyday, but the amounts differ hence a disparity.
Someone should do LEAVE GUILLERMO ALONE.
Don’t tell any of this to McClatchy Newspapers. I got Cinco de Mayo themed subscription promo offers in my email from the Miami Herald and The Raleigh News & Observer.
Cinco De Mayo Sale!
We’ve got 5 great reasons to subscribe during our Cinco de Mayo Day sale.
Corona is supposed to be a very low quality and cheap beer in Mexico, but a very successful marketing campaign in the US made it seem upscale and trendy, and it become one of the top selling beers in the US and the top import. That’s why it’s looked down upon, especially nowadays following the craft brewery trend. You might remember those Corona beach commercials that were everywhere on TV for a while starting in the 90s.
Piñata maker apologizes after hanging African-American figures by cords from his porch to dry
Victor Chavarria, of Minneapolis, came under fire after someone took a photo of the three figures hanging from his porch.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5702239/Pi-ata-maker-apologizes-hanging-African-American-figures-cords.html
Mexican culture cannot be reduced to tacos, oversized sombreros and piñatas.
No it cannot. It is in fact an outgrowth of the Spanish Conquistadors under Hernando Cortez and their Macho White Supremacist Spanish Colonial Empire.
Celebrate Colonialism and White Supremacy. OLE!
So, ketchup may in fact be consumed more often than salsa everyday, but the amounts differ hence a disparity.Replies: @Clyde
Brilliant observation. Salsa is more like a food while ketchup is strictly condiment. Pico de Gallo is also more like a food. I used to eat gobs of that at Del Taco fast food Mexican. Sadly none where I live now.
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Yes and he looks Maahvelous.
Why is there no outrage at the cultural appropriation of being a white man by Michael Jackson or Dwayne Johnson? In fact since Europeans or Middle Easterners probably gave literacy, metal working, and the wheel to Africans wasn’t that the greatest cultural appropriation of all?
Must be the in-bar promotions of Jose Cuervo – free shots of tequila passed out by 22 year old women.
It is a great soda-pop beer like Coors-lite. Sitting on the beach on a hot day, you can drink it from sunrise to sunrise without it affecting you much.
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I don’t know about New York but I know about Washington DC. After having lived for fifteen years in San Francisco I went back to Washington for graduate school. There I was to endure several years of no Mexican food. Maybe that’s what has created the Swamp mentality or ‘Potomac Fever’ as we called it in those days.
The most popular food style in America I’m told is Italian. Can you imagine a place without pizza? So is also for the vast Mexican food deserts on the Eastern Seaboard. Mexican food I think is number two in the US.
Funny, everyone loves and admires the Irish but no one has ever been to an Irish restaurant – a pub maybe to drink but not a real sit down restaurant.
That’s a good point Pat. Umpteen Irish bars but no Irish restaurants. My dad’s ancestry is entirely Irish and my grandma was a bona fide Irish immigrant and I couldn’t tell you what Irish food is.... just mumble something about potatoes.Replies: @Pat Boyle
No argument on “anti-white” and “money-grubbing”. As for “Jews”, the matter is not so simple.
Morris Dees, the Founder and Chief Trial Attorney whose name is found at the top of the page at splcenter DOT org/about/staff is not a Jew. That much, at least, was conceded in at least one of the recent past iSteve threads on the $PLC, by commenters who were not exactly known for their love of Jews– however defined. Of the remaining eleven names listed on the afore-cited page on the $PLC web site, I count no less than four that appear decidedly non-Jewish to me: LaPointe; Dinielli; Herrington; and Costello.
I do not deny that a disproportionately high number of Jews are represented in the causes championed by the $PLC and similar entities. But it must be remembered that neither such Jews nor such causes are by any means representative of Judaism. Quite the contrary. And, of course, that plenty of non-Jews are involved in all of the causes-in-question, at every level. I elaborate upon these matters in a number of past comments, most recently this one. Excerpt:
Note that the $PLC has attacked not only traditionalist Christians for daring to be faithful to their principles but also Jews as well, see, for example,
JONAH Trial: Expert Witness for SPLC Concedes Sexual Orientation is Fluid and Can Change
The Zionist Attack on Jewish Values
http://www.acjna.org/acjna/articles_detail.aspx?id=520
.... there has been a militarization of the Jewish mind, the Passover ritual and other Jewish celebrations have been turned into paeans of nationalism, imperialism and colonialism, and Zionist nationalists have invented (as a vicarious act of fratricide) the category of “self-hating Jew” for those who share their religion but not their politics.
More Authentic Jewish Ideals
And what of those other, hopefully more authentic Jewish ideals, the humanitarian ones? They have gone over to a small minority of the Jewish people who seek to promote them as a curative to the values that underlie the aggressive and colonialist policies that now characterize Zionist-Israeli behavior.....
Morris Dees, the Founder and Chief Trial Attorney whose name is found at the top of the page at splcenter DOT org/about/staff is not a Jew. That much, at least, was conceded in at least one of the recent past iSteve threads on the $PLC, by commenters who were not exactly known for their love of Jews-- however defined. Of the remaining eleven names listed on the afore-cited page on the $PLC web site, I count no less than four that appear decidedly non-Jewish to me: LaPointe; Dinielli; Herrington; and Costello.
I do not deny that a disproportionately high number of Jews are represented in the causes championed by the $PLC and similar entities. But it must be remembered that neither such Jews nor such causes are by any means representative of Judaism. Quite the contrary. And, of course, that plenty of non-Jews are involved in all of the causes-in-question, at every level. I elaborate upon these matters in a number of past comments, most recently this one. Excerpt:Note that the $PLC has attacked not only traditionalist Christians for daring to be faithful to their principles but also Jews as well, see, for example,
JONAH Trial: Expert Witness for SPLC Concedes Sexual Orientation is Fluid and Can ChangeReplies: @Steve Sailer, @hyperbola
As far as I know, Morris is the madman/genius behind the SPLC. He may have some Jewish ancestry — his middle name is Seligman — but he was raised as a Southern Baptist.
To make a celebration authentically Mexican, you would have to drink some bacteria-infested water, toss your litter on the ground, and pay off the Federales on your way home.
Don't worry, SPLC, these wonderful Mexican traditions are rapidly working their way into norteamericano culture.Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @Pat Boyle
Just more hate mongering from the SPLC.
The thing about Mexico and all other ethnic cultures is that they have high culture and low culture. Tacos – which are delicious – are low cuisine. These are creations made by and for peasants. Everyone use to tell me the try the ‘real’ Mexican food for which you had to travel into the interior away from the border towns.
And it’s true. Traveling in the heart of Mexico I never ate a taco. Anymore than you will probably eat Chop Suey if you visit China. The Mexicans gave tremendous gift to world civilization when they invented corn (maize) from teosinte. If I were Mexican I would swell with pride with every tortilla.
Mexicans themselves are adept at cultural appropriation. Mariachis are indeed a terrible form of vocal music but Mexico itself has given the world an awful lot of Italian opera singers. Obviously there is Placido Domingo. Carreras like Aragall nowadays is probably not considered Spanish anymore (they are Catalan). Carreras first sang as a boy in Mexico. Araiza was the best tenor of his type in the world for much of my lifetime. And of course who can forget Miquel Fleta – the guy who first sang “Nessun Dorma”? Mexico has always produced great Italian tenors.
The most popular food style in America I'm told is Italian. Can you imagine a place without pizza? So is also for the vast Mexican food deserts on the Eastern Seaboard. Mexican food I think is number two in the US.
Funny, everyone loves and admires the Irish but no one has ever been to an Irish restaurant - a pub maybe to drink but not a real sit down restaurant.Replies: @Corn, @MarkinLA, @hyperbola, @Brutusale, @J.Ross
“Funny, everyone loves and admires the Irish but no one has ever been to an Irish restaurant – a pub maybe to drink but not a real sit down restaurant.”
That’s a good point Pat. Umpteen Irish bars but no Irish restaurants. My dad’s ancestry is entirely Irish and my grandma was a bona fide Irish immigrant and I couldn’t tell you what Irish food is…. just mumble something about potatoes.
The most popular food style in America I'm told is Italian. Can you imagine a place without pizza? So is also for the vast Mexican food deserts on the Eastern Seaboard. Mexican food I think is number two in the US.
Funny, everyone loves and admires the Irish but no one has ever been to an Irish restaurant - a pub maybe to drink but not a real sit down restaurant.Replies: @Corn, @MarkinLA, @hyperbola, @Brutusale, @J.Ross
All the British Isles (not just Ireland) are well known for their not very tasty food. Even American fast food has most traditional British food beaten, hands down. Maybe that’s why the Brits were so successful at empire. Their already battle hardened stomachs made living off the land possible when on imperial expeditions.
"Hmm, here's a nice piece of meat. Let's boil it".
Morris Dees, the Founder and Chief Trial Attorney whose name is found at the top of the page at splcenter DOT org/about/staff is not a Jew. That much, at least, was conceded in at least one of the recent past iSteve threads on the $PLC, by commenters who were not exactly known for their love of Jews-- however defined. Of the remaining eleven names listed on the afore-cited page on the $PLC web site, I count no less than four that appear decidedly non-Jewish to me: LaPointe; Dinielli; Herrington; and Costello.
I do not deny that a disproportionately high number of Jews are represented in the causes championed by the $PLC and similar entities. But it must be remembered that neither such Jews nor such causes are by any means representative of Judaism. Quite the contrary. And, of course, that plenty of non-Jews are involved in all of the causes-in-question, at every level. I elaborate upon these matters in a number of past comments, most recently this one. Excerpt:Note that the $PLC has attacked not only traditionalist Christians for daring to be faithful to their principles but also Jews as well, see, for example,
JONAH Trial: Expert Witness for SPLC Concedes Sexual Orientation is Fluid and Can ChangeReplies: @Steve Sailer, @hyperbola
Your argument about not representing “judaism” is the same argument used to “excuse” jewish crimes in Palestine. 90% of jews in favor is n0t enough? There are a few token “resisters”?
The Zionist Attack on Jewish Values
http://www.acjna.org/acjna/articles_detail.aspx?id=520
…. there has been a militarization of the Jewish mind, the Passover ritual and other Jewish celebrations have been turned into paeans of nationalism, imperialism and colonialism, and Zionist nationalists have invented (as a vicarious act of fratricide) the category of “self-hating Jew” for those who share their religion but not their politics.
More Authentic Jewish Ideals
And what of those other, hopefully more authentic Jewish ideals, the humanitarian ones? They have gone over to a small minority of the Jewish people who seek to promote them as a curative to the values that underlie the aggressive and colonialist policies that now characterize Zionist-Israeli behavior…..
Christmas is now no different. Just a mass consumption orgy after its sequestration by corporations. Enough to make one abandon the consumption circus of 25/12 and take up the more authentic celebrations of 6/12 and 6/01.
The most popular food style in America I'm told is Italian. Can you imagine a place without pizza? So is also for the vast Mexican food deserts on the Eastern Seaboard. Mexican food I think is number two in the US.
Funny, everyone loves and admires the Irish but no one has ever been to an Irish restaurant - a pub maybe to drink but not a real sit down restaurant.Replies: @Corn, @MarkinLA, @hyperbola, @Brutusale, @J.Ross
Who is this “everyone” that admires the Irish??? The amount of abuse of women and children produced by the Irish has any rivals?
Morris’s grandfather had a good friend or colleague named Morris Seligman, and named a son for him. This Morris is that Morris’s junior.
More accurate than “madman/genius” would be “direct-mail marketer”. He’s in the Direct Mail Marketing Hall of Fame. Not to be confused with the Direct Response Marketing Hall of Fame or the Data & Marketing Hall of Fame.
That’s a good point Pat. Umpteen Irish bars but no Irish restaurants. My dad’s ancestry is entirely Irish and my grandma was a bona fide Irish immigrant and I couldn’t tell you what Irish food is.... just mumble something about potatoes.Replies: @Pat Boyle
I’ve been all over Ireland so I actually have eaten in Irish restaurants. Ireland is too wet for most wheat so no bread is on the tables and most meals have two different types of potato dishes. The people are nice of course except the IRA who grill you to determine if you are the right kind of Irishman.
Indeed, I stopped drinking Corona years ago. I now drink a British brown beer (or is it an ale?).
That tells you something right thereReplies: @San Fernando Curt, @Malcolm X-Lax, @Anonymous, @Reg Cæsar, @expat47
SPLC just a bunch of zionist lawyers hating white Christians. The South is, by far, very much churchgoing. I lived in a remote area of the South when you met a lot more cars on Sunday going to church. Closest Gas station 18 miles.
Quattro de Mayo is Star Wars Day.
May the 4th be with you.
The most popular food style in America I'm told is Italian. Can you imagine a place without pizza? So is also for the vast Mexican food deserts on the Eastern Seaboard. Mexican food I think is number two in the US.
Funny, everyone loves and admires the Irish but no one has ever been to an Irish restaurant - a pub maybe to drink but not a real sit down restaurant.Replies: @Corn, @MarkinLA, @hyperbola, @Brutusale, @J.Ross
If you’re from the Northeast, the rest of the country pretty much IS a place without pizza.
Steve, don’t forget El Grito. It is a big deal here in Santana, Alta California. They will not have a parade for Fourth of July, but come September 16 it is a really big deal:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cry_of_Dolores
Ironically, all of the great family breweries in Mexico were started by German immigrants. Now that’s cultural appropriation. In Mexico, Corona is peasant beer. You have to put lime in it to mask the shitty taste. In Michoacan, I once paid $2 for a six pack. Back in the old days, all the bottles were different / irregular sizes and the glass had rings on them from being reused and sterilized so many times.
The finest Mexican beer (in my humble opinion) is just as good as any German beer: Bohemia.
And hasn’t anyone noticed that Mexican Norteno music sounds just like polka? I mean, who brought accordions into Mexico in the first place?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norte%C3%B1o_(music)
You seem to be out of step with all humanity. Sorry for you.
SPLC: “Mexican culture cannot be reduced to tacos, oversized sombreros and piñatas.”
Me: “Is there more to Mexican culture than that?”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Santa_Muerte
Me: "Is there more to Mexican culture than that?"Replies: @syonredux
They’ve also got Aztec Death-Worship…..
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Santa_Muerte
The thing about Mexico and all other ethnic cultures is that they have high culture and low culture. Tacos - which are delicious - are low cuisine. These are creations made by and for peasants. Everyone use to tell me the try the 'real' Mexican food for which you had to travel into the interior away from the border towns.
And it's true. Traveling in the heart of Mexico I never ate a taco. Anymore than you will probably eat Chop Suey if you visit China. The Mexicans gave tremendous gift to world civilization when they invented corn (maize) from teosinte. If I were Mexican I would swell with pride with every tortilla.
Mexicans themselves are adept at cultural appropriation. Mariachis are indeed a terrible form of vocal music but Mexico itself has given the world an awful lot of Italian opera singers. Obviously there is Placido Domingo. Carreras like Aragall nowadays is probably not considered Spanish anymore (they are Catalan). Carreras first sang as a boy in Mexico. Araiza was the best tenor of his type in the world for much of my lifetime. And of course who can forget Miquel Fleta - the guy who first sang "Nessun Dorma"? Mexico has always produced great Italian tenors.Replies: @Johann Ricke
It’s pretty amazing how a mix of Stone Age societies achieved so much in agriculture, and in complete isolation from the rest of the world.
The most popular food style in America I'm told is Italian. Can you imagine a place without pizza? So is also for the vast Mexican food deserts on the Eastern Seaboard. Mexican food I think is number two in the US.
Funny, everyone loves and admires the Irish but no one has ever been to an Irish restaurant - a pub maybe to drink but not a real sit down restaurant.Replies: @Corn, @MarkinLA, @hyperbola, @Brutusale, @J.Ross
There are several Irish restaurants in Michigan but their cuisine is recognizably English.
Amen, Brother Hano!
Remember, Woodrow Wilson put us into WWI to ensure himself a seat at the post-war peace table. He really thought he was so smart and so persuasive that he could craft a post-war peace agreement that really would end all future wars.
Wilson was hubris personified.
He never thought that we would actually have to send troops in big numbers. He only envisioned America as an “associated power”, one that sent only war materiel, not men to fight (and die.)
Wilson was a utopian fool, one whose naivete, stupidity and arrogance coast at least 100,000 American lives, and needlessly prolonged WWI.
WWI would have ended in 1917 with some sort of truce agreement between the British and the Germans if not for Wilson.
WWIIl and the Holocaust probably would never have happened, if not for Wilson.
America and the world would have been infinitely better off had Woodrow Wilson never been president of the United States.
http://www.greatwar.nl/frames/default-churchill.html
Is there any real difference between British and Irish eating habits? The Irish actually drink more tea per capita than the British.
The Irish have unique dishes but they don't add up to a cuisine and they aren't stylistically different from English variations.
Of course that's not as sad as Australian fairy bread.
Please correct me but I’ve heard that an “Irish Breakfast” is an “English Breakfast” (toast, eggs, back bacon, mushrooms, slice of tomato, beans, sausage, black pudding) with the addition of white pudding.
The Irish have unique dishes but they don’t add up to a cuisine and they aren’t stylistically different from English variations.
Of course that’s not as sad as Australian fairy bread.
The SPLC and their fellow travelers in the New Left are in a battle to become the biggest NoFunNik. Their message: The Good White with the most hang-ups, wins.
Or maybe they built the empire while wandering around seeking something decent to eat.
“Hmm, here’s a nice piece of meat. Let’s boil it”.
No roast beef if you’re not English.