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From the Hollywood Reporter:

Jon Stewart Isn’t Laughing

He understands if you are delighted by his return to TV. But like the subjects he’ll cover on Apple’s ‘The Problem With Jon Stewart,’ his comeback is a little more complicated: “It’s ‘The Daily Show,’ but less entertaining — but also maybe more complete.”

BY LACEY ROSE

SEPTEMBER 15, 2021

The concept — a current affairs series that tackles a single issue, or “problem,” every episode — is some two years in the making….

Earlier this year, Stewart hired a showrunner (news veteran Brinda Adhikari) and head writer (comedian Chelsea Devantez), then assembled a staff very different from the mostly white comedy writers that made up his last one. Of the series’ nine writers, “most of them have never worked on a comedy show,” says Adhikari, who rattles off résumés that include social work and the military. “It’s not like we were just hiring writers from T he Harvard Lampoon.”

After all, what punchy one-liners have old Harvard Lampoon staffers ever written? Okay, okay, George Santayana (a Lampoon editor in the 1880s) came up with, “Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.” But, still…

Collectively, the staff — some of whom appear on air in snippets from the office — mapped out a season’s worth of subjects, from gun control to climate change.

And in the second season they will do subjects ranging from climate change to gun control.

Stewart will tell you The Problem was born from “the same things that animated The Daily Show“; it’s just more “complete” and, to him, “more satisfying.” What it isn’t is laugh-out-loud funny, at least not in the way his Daily Show frequently was.

In Stewart’s defense, his first episode about an obscure health care issue for ex-soldiers involving the Veteran’s Administration dropping the ball, sounds eminently public-spirited.

 
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  1. And in the second season they will do subjects ranging from climate change to gun control.

    LOL

    What it isn’t is laugh-out-loud funny, at least not in the way his Daily Show frequently was.

    LOL

    OK, got it.

    • Replies: @Shel100
    @Achmed E. Newman

    There's no humor in communism.

    Replies: @James J O'Meara, @obwandiyag, @Kolya Krassotkin

    , @Sha Na Na is the greatest band in history
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Shouldn’t that have read, laugh out loud funny like The Daily Show with Craig Kilborn was?

  2. “That last joke was written by a woman.”

    “Nah, I’m just kidding – we don’t hire women.”

    • Replies: @Random Anonymous
    @Charles

    Norm!

  3. He can’t stand to sit by any longer watching Noah destroy his former show and legacy.

    I highly doubt he’s hurting for bread.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    @L. Guapo

    >he can't stand to see his opposite-skinned former servant wreck it all
    My god, he's Antibama!
    [elaborate 1970s Dr Strange splash page]

  4. Here’s Jon Leiberschitz’z best scene ever, cowering in fear as Vanilla Ice realizes that he’s been made into a laughing stock by the jewish run music industry and reacts accordingly. No, Vanilla!

    • Replies: @Hapalong Cassidy
    @Mike Tre

    I always found it interesting that Vanilla Ice was accused of appropriating Black music and was made fun of the in the media constantly, but the Jewish Beastie Boys received no such criticism.

    Replies: @Truth

  5. There will probably be a crop of very funny right wing artists who come around in the coming decades. They’ll probably have endless tribulations through the course of their lives, but they’ll be amongst the big legends of the age.

    • Disagree: Corvinus
    • Replies: @R.G. Camara
    @40 Lashes Less One

    They're already out there. A lot of those out-of-work right wing artists who got shut out of Hollywood and Madison Avenue because of their beliefs were the ones who memed Trump to the presidency and are currently eviscerating Dementia Joe online.

    , @J.Ross
    @40 Lashes Less One

    I tell you what, boy, those FEMA camps'll kill us, but they'll have us hootin' 'n' hollerin' right up to the shower!

    , @clifford brown
    @40 Lashes Less One

    The last president Trump, who was a political moderate, is banned from Twitter. What makes you think that the media marketplace will change? Future audiences will be far more to the left. Censorship is only getting worse in case you are not paying attention. Only hope is to pretend to be even further to the left and attack the left from that position. That could work, but it is dishonest and not exactly a right wing take.

    You can be a right wing artist if you keep your politics vague and weird.

    Comedian Tim Dillon has a bit of cult following, but he claims to be a Bernie supporting socialist and keeps things weird and in conspiracy circles. Dillon has a podcast, but I doubt he will ever have broad cultural exposure because everything is locked down and censored now.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OTi9bWRlH3Q

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zhrcrySeRuo

    Replies: @40 Lashes Less One

  6. The problem with shitlib propaganda is serious arguments require facts and logic, both enemies of shitlib propaganda.

    How far does Stewart think he’ll get in a show about gun control without revealing which race is responsible for nearly all gun violence?

    • Replies: @Kylie
    @Sick of Orcs

    "The problem with shitlib propaganda is serious arguments require facts and logic, both enemies of shitlib propaganda."

    How is that a problem? Shitlib propaganda and serious arguments have nothing at all in common. Shitlib propagandists either ignore facts and logic or shout them down.

    "How far does Stewart think he’ll get in a show about gun control without revealing which race is responsible for nearly all gun violence?"

    He'll get a lot farther not revealing which race is responsible for nearly all gun violence than he'd get revealing that fact.

    Replies: @Sick of Orcs, @Veteran Aryan

    , @El Dato
    @Sick of Orcs

    You can make pretty good jokes out of logic

    Monty Python: The Logician

    Trigger warning: Extremely non-woke, I don't even understand how this is even on YouTube anymore.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZ2FeXwMyFI

    Replies: @Catdog

  7. Very disappointing to see that the evil of whiteness isn’t at the top of the topic list.

  8. Jon Stewart is perhaps the single most important person responsible for the devolution of public discourse into the smug, snarky, snotty, our-team-must-win, we hate you political discourse since 2000. And yes I would include Roger Ailes, Keith Olberman, Jeffrey Zucker, Bill O’Reilly, Phil Griffin, Rachel Maddow, Michael Moore, Stephen Colbert, and all the rest in there. Stewart was the biggest and worst influence of them all

    Really, if you’re wondering about the hysterical venom used to attack Trump and push into the mainstream the Russia Hoax, Stewart is the grandaddy of it all. While he first began as a fair-minded attempt-to-be-even-handed satire/critique of news media in general, by the time of 2006-2007 he had devolved into a snarky, propaganda-spewing Team Blue attack dog, and then, when Obama got in, a Team Blue defense dog and remained so till he quit. The DNC probably still drops checks into his accounts for all he did for them in that period.

    And he’s the exec. producer of Colbert’s corporate c*ckholder propaganda on CBS, so he’s never really left or ceased being a trash propagandist.

    I hate the man, and hope this fails. But Team Blue needs its constant propaganda streams to avoid reality, and he has talent and a name, so it will probably last.

    • Troll: Corvinus
    • Replies: @Danindc
    @R.G. Camara

    Bill O’Reilly’s first 5 minutes was much watch TV. He’s a truth teller. Don’t besmirch his great name by lumping him in with those degenerates. Delete and apologize!

    Replies: @Corvinus

    , @Old Prude
    @R.G. Camara

    Taki notes Stewart has a face like a penis. Or maybe it was another one of those smug a-holes.

    , @joe862
    @R.G. Camara

    I haven't watched a lot of him but I've never seen anything that would make me describe him as talented. Smug, snarky, snotty for sure but talented? I tend to think he'll be remembered as an overrated mediocrity.

    , @Prester John
    @R.G. Camara

    I watched Stewart only a few times and found his shtick tedious. Basically he did agitprop which was trussed up to seem as though it was satire (which, as the saying goes, always closes on Saturday night).

  9. @40 Lashes Less One
    There will probably be a crop of very funny right wing artists who come around in the coming decades. They'll probably have endless tribulations through the course of their lives, but they'll be amongst the big legends of the age.

    Replies: @R.G. Camara, @J.Ross, @clifford brown

    They’re already out there. A lot of those out-of-work right wing artists who got shut out of Hollywood and Madison Avenue because of their beliefs were the ones who memed Trump to the presidency and are currently eviscerating Dementia Joe online.

  10. Having recently watched Amazon Women on the Moon (which is brilliant and immortal, and by the not-way [OT] happy 70th birthday to Cassandra “Elvira” Peterson: whaddaya know, that stuff really is great for the skin) in the late 70s and early 80s there was a sort of royal college of comedy (partially illustrated by the Ghostbusters music video proudly showing so many people, who not only were not in, but who really had nothing to do with the movie — it really was these fifty Canadian buddies who all knew each other) I have to say, “yeah.”
    Or, to toss a stone after that of-its-time CV boast, “burgers?”
    The only reason anybody knows Jon Stewart’s name is not his shadowdwelling under the hot cancer chick or his non-existant standup career or his appearance in that Dave Chappelle movie. Jon Stewart briefly wielded disproportionate influence in the Dumbya darkness by pulling an Unz, by offering a loud and factually upbacked alternative to the laughable self-appointed priesthood of factuality. That’s it. That’s the whole thing right there. That’s why he ravaged Jim Cramer without ever mentioning why his wicked brother is not like other brothers. That’s what he’s trying to claw back, after the CDC asked the literate public to believe that Japan, Israel, France and the UK were backward Stalinist enemies of the West.
    I’m just — ugh, I know, I’m just not going to bother, Jon. I know. Ugh.

    • Replies: @SunBakedSuburb
    @J.Ross

    "the CDC asked the literate public to believe that Japan, Israel, France and the UK were backward Stalinist enemies of the West."

    If by alluding to the newly disclosed CDC decision of May 1, 2021 to stop recording data of "breakthrough" COVID infections because it would upset the Bela Lugosi guy at Pfizer and the rest of the technocrat ghouls you are projecting a bleak but ultimately necessary period of reckoning regarding the Vaccine I am forced to agree with you. Despite your smartass wisecrackery. The "hoax" turned out to be the Vaccine, not the COVID bio-weapon.

    "[elaborate 1970s Dr Strange splash page]"

    1960s Lee-Ditko Dr. Strange is overrated. The creepy occult vibe of the 70s was perfect for that character.

    , @MEH 0910
    @J.Ross

    https://twitter.com/search?q=Elvira&src=trend_click&vertical=trends

    https://twitter.com/TheRealElvira/status/1440341901622743043

    https://twitter.com/TooFab/status/1440309908897812498

    https://twitter.com/TheAdvocateMag/status/1440401855025086467

  11. @L. Guapo
    He can't stand to sit by any longer watching Noah destroy his former show and legacy.

    I highly doubt he's hurting for bread.

    Replies: @J.Ross

    >he can’t stand to see his opposite-skinned former servant wreck it all
    My god, he’s Antibama!
    [elaborate 1970s Dr Strange splash page]

  12. @40 Lashes Less One
    There will probably be a crop of very funny right wing artists who come around in the coming decades. They'll probably have endless tribulations through the course of their lives, but they'll be amongst the big legends of the age.

    Replies: @R.G. Camara, @J.Ross, @clifford brown

    I tell you what, boy, those FEMA camps’ll kill us, but they’ll have us hootin’ ‘n’ hollerin’ right up to the shower!

  13. @40 Lashes Less One
    There will probably be a crop of very funny right wing artists who come around in the coming decades. They'll probably have endless tribulations through the course of their lives, but they'll be amongst the big legends of the age.

    Replies: @R.G. Camara, @J.Ross, @clifford brown

    The last president Trump, who was a political moderate, is banned from Twitter. What makes you think that the media marketplace will change? Future audiences will be far more to the left. Censorship is only getting worse in case you are not paying attention. Only hope is to pretend to be even further to the left and attack the left from that position. That could work, but it is dishonest and not exactly a right wing take.

    You can be a right wing artist if you keep your politics vague and weird.

    Comedian Tim Dillon has a bit of cult following, but he claims to be a Bernie supporting socialist and keeps things weird and in conspiracy circles. Dillon has a podcast, but I doubt he will ever have broad cultural exposure because everything is locked down and censored now.

    • Replies: @40 Lashes Less One
    @clifford brown

    Now, now, there's no point in hanging out on sites like this only to despair at the world of the future

  14. @clifford brown
    @40 Lashes Less One

    The last president Trump, who was a political moderate, is banned from Twitter. What makes you think that the media marketplace will change? Future audiences will be far more to the left. Censorship is only getting worse in case you are not paying attention. Only hope is to pretend to be even further to the left and attack the left from that position. That could work, but it is dishonest and not exactly a right wing take.

    You can be a right wing artist if you keep your politics vague and weird.

    Comedian Tim Dillon has a bit of cult following, but he claims to be a Bernie supporting socialist and keeps things weird and in conspiracy circles. Dillon has a podcast, but I doubt he will ever have broad cultural exposure because everything is locked down and censored now.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OTi9bWRlH3Q

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zhrcrySeRuo

    Replies: @40 Lashes Less One

    Now, now, there’s no point in hanging out on sites like this only to despair at the world of the future

  15. https://www.avclub.com/norm-macdonald-was-the-best-worst-talk-show-guest-of-al-1847676170

    It’s not hard to find footage of Macdonald making other comedians crack up, often by pushing past the accepted bounds of comedy—like this clip of him on The Daily Show, doing a casual set of material on the death of Steve Irwin 10 whole days after it happened. (“Please don’t make me laugh at this,” Jon Stewart begs, futilely.)

    • Replies: @Danindc
    @MEH 0910

    Norm is the of course the best but notice Stewart has nothing to add. He’s a doofus. To call Stewart a comedian is very generous.

  16. In Stewart’s defense, his first episode about an obscure health care issue for ex-soldiers involving the Veteran’s Administration dropping the ball, sounds eminently public-spirited.

    Boomer takes the bait.

  17. This post was funnier than the show is ever likely to be.

    • Agree: Kylie
  18. @Achmed E. Newman

    And in the second season they will do subjects ranging from climate change to gun control.
     
    LOL

    What it isn’t is laugh-out-loud funny, at least not in the way his Daily Show frequently was.
     
    LOL

    OK, got it.

    Replies: @Shel100, @Sha Na Na is the greatest band in history

    There’s no humor in communism.

    • Replies: @James J O'Meara
    @Shel100

    In Soviet Union, government laughs at YOU!

    , @obwandiyag
    @Shel100

    Nope. It seriously makes life better.

    There is lots of humor in capitalism. It is absurdly ludicrous that people actually believe that crock of shit.

    , @Kolya Krassotkin
    @Shel100

    "There's no humor in communism."

    Nor in Lesbianism. You'll sooner see "The Book of Big Lesbian Humor" than you will "The Big Book of Lesbian Humor."

  19. Anon[560] • Disclaimer says:

    mapped out a season’s worth of subjects, from gun control to climate change.

    False range, drives me nuts, sloppy, unedited writing from the internet era. “… including gun control and climate change.”

    https://www.dailywritingtips.com/true-and-false-ranges/
    https://thewritingguide.wordpress.com/2009/09/02/the-false-range/

    The classic Jon Stewart has been copied in so many other current shows that he can’t really go back to it. In the new show does he manage to avoid the blatant call for laughter where he looks into the camera and mugs? Presumably he has no live audience to appeal to now.

    • Thanks: Ian M.
    • Replies: @Polistra
    @Anon


    False range, drives me nuts, sloppy, unedited writing from the internet era.
     
    Not to mention comma splices, run-on sentences, what-have-you.
    , @Harry Baldwin
    @Anon

    I like how you used proper grammar to kill the joke.

    , @Prof. Woland
    @Anon

    I came across a very interesting article on Gold, Goats, N Guns about Stewart's return to TV on the Colbert show where his message was that Covid-19 was given to us by the Chinese. Luongo's premise is that Stewart was changing his pitch to the Gen-X blue pill fools as sort of a warning or to pull them into reality. Stewart was pretending to be a hip comedian but he was really just selling Davos and the DNC. I highly recommend reading it.

    https://tomluongo.me/2021/06/18/john-stewart-does-davos/

  20. Humor is very serious business. Just because something is funny doesn’t mean it should be said aloud, or even thought. Humor needs to be taken away from the playground and put into the courts and board rooms where it belongs. Perhaps the Committee will compile a list of suitable topics. Humor can no longer simply be funny! Take my wife, please. Or Emmett Till.

  21. @Sick of Orcs
    The problem with shitlib propaganda is serious arguments require facts and logic, both enemies of shitlib propaganda.

    How far does Stewart think he'll get in a show about gun control without revealing which race is responsible for nearly all gun violence?

    Replies: @Kylie, @El Dato

    “The problem with shitlib propaganda is serious arguments require facts and logic, both enemies of shitlib propaganda.”

    How is that a problem? Shitlib propaganda and serious arguments have nothing at all in common. Shitlib propagandists either ignore facts and logic or shout them down.

    “How far does Stewart think he’ll get in a show about gun control without revealing which race is responsible for nearly all gun violence?”

    He’ll get a lot farther not revealing which race is responsible for nearly all gun violence than he’d get revealing that fact.

    • Agree: Polistra
    • Replies: @Sick of Orcs
    @Kylie

    By his own admission, the New Stewart plans to be less funny and more serious, which means this new show is either DOA or will revert to shitlib "comedy."

    , @Veteran Aryan
    @Kylie


    ...which race is responsible for nearly all gun violence...
     
    And of course a lefty would never include suicide under the phrase "gun violence," they're just too honest to pull something like that.
  22. @Charles
    "That last joke was written by a woman."

    "Nah, I'm just kidding - we don't hire women."

    Replies: @Random Anonymous

    Norm!

  23. The more shows / streams the better. Drive each show’s overnight ratings down to white noise.

    I’m hoping that the TV content business model collapses to that of Spotify, whereby the bulk of the money will go to the largest entertainment companies, who turn around and redistribute (compressed) royalties to their contracted producers (who have to compete with each other for streams).

    I get my kicks from watching re-runs of Lucy.

    Public education should be sold by subscription, directly to parents: \$2,500 per kid per month.

    • Replies: @Polistra
    @Abolish_public_education


    Public education should be sold by subscription, directly to parents: $2,500 per kid per month.
     
    The Democrats will rebate $5000 of that $2500 per kid per month to everyone in their favored "protected classes" and you'll be even worse off than when you started. Don't give them any ideas.
  24. @Abolish_public_education
    The more shows / streams the better. Drive each show’s overnight ratings down to white noise.

    I’m hoping that the TV content business model collapses to that of Spotify, whereby the bulk of the money will go to the largest entertainment companies, who turn around and redistribute (compressed) royalties to their contracted producers (who have to compete with each other for streams).

    I get my kicks from watching re-runs of Lucy.

    Public education should be sold by subscription, directly to parents: $2,500 per kid per month.

    Replies: @Polistra

    Public education should be sold by subscription, directly to parents: \$2,500 per kid per month.

    The Democrats will rebate \$5000 of that \$2500 per kid per month to everyone in their favored “protected classes” and you’ll be even worse off than when you started. Don’t give them any ideas.

  25. @Anon

    mapped out a season’s worth of subjects, from gun control to climate change.

     

    False range, drives me nuts, sloppy, unedited writing from the internet era. "... including gun control and climate change."

    https://www.dailywritingtips.com/true-and-false-ranges/
    https://thewritingguide.wordpress.com/2009/09/02/the-false-range/

    The classic Jon Stewart has been copied in so many other current shows that he can't really go back to it. In the new show does he manage to avoid the blatant call for laughter where he looks into the camera and mugs? Presumably he has no live audience to appeal to now.

    Replies: @Polistra, @Harry Baldwin, @Prof. Woland

    False range, drives me nuts, sloppy, unedited writing from the internet era.

    Not to mention comma splices, run-on sentences, what-have-you.

  26. ‘…In Stewart’s defense, his first episode about an obscure health care issue for ex-soldiers involving the Veteran’s Administration dropping the ball, sounds eminently public-spirited.’

    On the other hand, searches on ‘Brinda Adhikari’ and ‘Chelsea Devantez’ suggest that the show would be best ignored. Perhaps something suitable to those happy years back before the beginning of the great race war — but those days are past, aren’t they?

  27. Did I ever tell you my Jon Stewart story?

  28. @R.G. Camara
    Jon Stewart is perhaps the single most important person responsible for the devolution of public discourse into the smug, snarky, snotty, our-team-must-win, we hate you political discourse since 2000. And yes I would include Roger Ailes, Keith Olberman, Jeffrey Zucker, Bill O'Reilly, Phil Griffin, Rachel Maddow, Michael Moore, Stephen Colbert, and all the rest in there. Stewart was the biggest and worst influence of them all

    Really, if you're wondering about the hysterical venom used to attack Trump and push into the mainstream the Russia Hoax, Stewart is the grandaddy of it all. While he first began as a fair-minded attempt-to-be-even-handed satire/critique of news media in general, by the time of 2006-2007 he had devolved into a snarky, propaganda-spewing Team Blue attack dog, and then, when Obama got in, a Team Blue defense dog and remained so till he quit. The DNC probably still drops checks into his accounts for all he did for them in that period.

    And he's the exec. producer of Colbert's corporate c*ckholder propaganda on CBS, so he's never really left or ceased being a trash propagandist.

    I hate the man, and hope this fails. But Team Blue needs its constant propaganda streams to avoid reality, and he has talent and a name, so it will probably last.

    Replies: @Danindc, @Old Prude, @joe862, @Prester John

    Bill O’Reilly’s first 5 minutes was much watch TV. He’s a truth teller. Don’t besmirch his great name by lumping him in with those degenerates. Delete and apologize!

    • Replies: @Corvinus
    @Danindc

    Lol, no, O’Reilly was spin, spin, spin. That and grabbing them by the p——.

    Replies: @SunBakedSuburb

  29. @MEH 0910
    https://www.avclub.com/norm-macdonald-was-the-best-worst-talk-show-guest-of-al-1847676170

    It’s not hard to find footage of Macdonald making other comedians crack up, often by pushing past the accepted bounds of comedy—like this clip of him on The Daily Show, doing a casual set of material on the death of Steve Irwin 10 whole days after it happened. (“Please don’t make me laugh at this,” Jon Stewart begs, futilely.)
     
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h8h-xeuC1L0

    Replies: @Danindc

    Norm is the of course the best but notice Stewart has nothing to add. He’s a doofus. To call Stewart a comedian is very generous.

  30. I never found Jon Leibovitz “Stewart” funny, even when he was supposedly being funny.

    “The problem with Jon Stewart” is himself. He’s really annoying and grating.

    A lot of “Jewish comedy”, at least these days, seems to be about hectoring and insulting people, or just dishing out propaganda.

    I simply never watch that type of show, and I feel fine.

    • Replies: @James J O'Meara
    @Dumbo

    "A lot of “Jewish comedy”, at least these days, seems to be about hectoring and insulting people"

    Indeed, and always was. Only a Jew could come up with Don Rickles' "insult comedy" (including the classic alibi, "I kid, I kid because I love!"; cf. "The Jews cries when he hits you") or the idea of a "comedy roast"; both are now ubiquitous.

    , @AceDeuce
    @Dumbo

    I tuned in only one time on this Chew Toy's show, despite hearing endless hype about it back in the day.


    Leibowitz was yammering on with some boo'schitt--actually, he was smirkily, and snarkily (are those words?) trying to discredit some conservative talking point by making fun of it, and making faces the whole while.

    The subject was a familiar one to me, and I was fascinated to hear Leibowitz lie his ass off by misrepresenting and lying his way through it. To the know nothing mouthbreathers comprising his audience who knew no better, I'm sure they thought it was Gospel. He did that for years. Scary.

    Funny how, when he retired, it was to New Jersey-a state oozing with "diversity"--but, in his case, a rich 98% + White area.

    Replies: @Ian M.

  31. Anon[205] • Disclaimer says:

    False range, drives me nuts, sloppy, unedited writing from the internet era.

    Not to mention comma splices, run-on sentences, what-have-you.

    Yes, haha! I do that deliberately in comments, I suppose as a conversational writing style. It’s only in the first sentence, mostly of OT comments, when I’m introducing some material, either after or before a block quote. I think it developed gradually, staring with writing like “False range:,” and then I’d add a short comment phrase, and then a second, and quickly my nominative introductory phrase label is a couple of lines long.

    Perhaps I should stop, since if nothing else it’s quite a blatant style fingerprint for connecting up all my Anon posts for someone trying to dox me. Another stylistic tic I have in comments is writing lists that don’t use commas at all, every item connected with “and.”

    • Replies: @El Dato
    @Anon

    Okay.

    , @SunBakedSuburb
    @Anon

    "connecting up all my Anon posts for someone trying to dox me"

    You needn't worry: if your true identity is exposed your chocolate-covered banana business will survive. No one can resist your bananas.

  32. I would have more respect for these free-thinking and hard-hitting independent thinkers if one, just one, went off the reservation on one big thing important to progs.

    Like “after careful analysis, we determined that only nuclear power can replace coal baseload production and power the carbon sequestration necessary to stop global warming.”

    Or “Wyatt Cenak went to the border in Texas, then read histories of the Greeks, Romans, and Ottomans. He determined that only an immigration and refugee moratorium, including ending family reunification for immigrants already in America can save our planet, reduce inequality, and recreate the public-spirited first-world society that many of us remember from childhood.”

    Even “we took a deep dive into diversity and affirmative action, we learned that the beneficiaries did not benefit from always being the dumbest person in the room. Companies and governments do best when the people are from the same culture, and government mandates will never change the hearts of Americans. Ensuring that every college-educated black is incompetent at their job is to way to improve race relations.”

    [MORE]

    They do not even pretend to present both sides or even variations of what their side believes. It leads to dehumanization and demonization of people with whom you do not have ethical disagreements. You have policy disagreements, snd compromise does not make you morally tainted. This was a huge, a yuuge problem with their coverage of Primary Candidate Trump. The media would not present the reasons Trump supporters said were why they supported him. Even when he pressured Carrier, an air conditioner maker into keeping an American plant open, a concise example of his supporters’ motivation and desired outcome, the media coverage was along the lines of “racist misogynist Trump interferes with free market, harms shareholders.”

    God, even typing that makes me sad. What a missed opportunity, more likely a stolen opportunity, the Trump Presidency was. Yes, wages did rise at the bottom of the scale. That was great. But he took ‘expel the illegals. Keep the rest out” from being a solid majority bipartisan issue into the most divisive issue around. Now the Democrats’ oppositional-defiance disorder (cons aren’t the only ones with that) kicked in, along with some backers’ great replacement hankering, to flood America with unvaccinated Mexicans. These sorts just saunter up to the border. They are not even selected for the wherewithal to pay a coyote and the health to cross a river and some desert.

    • Agree: Old Prude
    • Replies: @obwandiyag
    @Rob

    You are a nuclear troll.

    You prove what Alexander Cockburn said: "Global warming is a scam for the purpose of pushing nuclear power."

    I suppose after the next 10 Fukushimas you'll still be making excuses.

    Here ya go: Global warming theoretically causes some discomfort. Nuclear power, on the other hand, destroys the world forever.

    And of course, people couldn't start using less power or anything. No, that would be crazy. Where would nuclear power be without ever increasing power usage?!

    I got your number phoney.

    Replies: @Joe Stalin, @Rob

  33. Give a man a fish and feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish and feed him for a lifetime. Teach a man to cycle and he will realize fishing is stupid and boring.

    —Desmond Tutu

  34. from gun control to climate change

    From DeShanta to Greta.

    [MORE]

    This month there will be a Big Climate Change and Climate Justice Get-Together in “one of those venues” (Kuala Lumpur? Beyonda Bagosa? Maybe Zooma Maskalia?). Students barely back in class are gearing up for walk-outs in the name of “climate” later this month as rappers prepare their gigs to enterain the disaffected youths that day. Just searching for “climate change 2021” will give you various apocalyptic predictions none older than “20h ago” and what Biden will do and promises to do and will make China do on the Climate Question.

    Clown World encroachment:

    The Covid era’s politicization of expertise means we now have medics lecturing us on climate change

    When 200 medical journal editors publish an apocalyptic and misleading joint editorial (in the “The BMJ: Intended for Healthcare Professionals”: “Call for emergency action to limit global temperature increases, restore biodiversity, and protect health about the dangers of temperature rises”), which the Wall Street Journal’s editorial team correctly noted “could have been ghost written by Greta Thunberg,” it reveals that the politicization of expertise we have seen during the Covid pandemic is now limitless.

    The intervention by the medical journal editors in the climate debate and its impact on public health ought to be welcomed. We certainly need a broader discussion. But when such an intervention is more about politics than medical science, in the words of the stricken Apollo 13 crew, “Houston, we have a problem.”

    OTOH, it’s no different from having dual-citizenship operators of various couleurs (including our terrorists from the marxist MEK cult who sourced us the smoking laptop) tell us about Peace in the Middle East.

    Meanwhile in Blighty:

    Why have British police treated eco activists with kid gloves, when they’ve clamped down so hard on lockdown protesters?

    Protesters against the lockdown were rarely treated with respect by the police. On the contrary, they faced the wrath of the criminal justice system.

    Contrast this attitude with the way that the Metropolitan Police responded last month to Extinction Rebellion’s announcement that it would initiate two weeks of climate protest across London. The Metropolitan Police felt it had a duty to show that it understood the motives of Extinction Rebellion activists and publicly affirmed that theirs was an“important cause.”

    Deputy Assistant Commissioner Matt Twist responded to the threat of disrupting London during the August Bank Holiday by stating, “We understand why this is such an important cause, no one is oblivious to that, what we don’t want is for people who are protesting to impact on the rights of others.”

    This sounds like profuse sweating is going on. Maybe par for the course for a force that patrols in LGBTQ cars.

    When a leading figure in the Met goes out of his way to legitimise the activities of a group of people who want to bring life in London to a standstill, it’s obvious that they will be treated with kid gloves.

    The British establishment regards Extinction Rebellion and other environmental activists as among their own. When they are arrested and taken to court, these activists seem to be held to a different standard than ordinary law-breakers.

    Or maybe they know that they can just crack down on anti-lokkers (and immigration protestors for that matter) because the public has been sufficiently “managed” in that regard, whereas the eco-protests have the potential to become uglier and/or result in serious agitation of the masses throwing protestors off highway bridges etc.

  35. @Sick of Orcs
    The problem with shitlib propaganda is serious arguments require facts and logic, both enemies of shitlib propaganda.

    How far does Stewart think he'll get in a show about gun control without revealing which race is responsible for nearly all gun violence?

    Replies: @Kylie, @El Dato

    You can make pretty good jokes out of logic

    Monty Python: The Logician

    Trigger warning: Extremely non-woke, I don’t even understand how this is even on YouTube anymore.

    • Replies: @Catdog
    @El Dato

    It's not.

  36. Well yeah. When the rebels win and are in charge of the country, they forbid rebellion.

  37. @R.G. Camara
    Jon Stewart is perhaps the single most important person responsible for the devolution of public discourse into the smug, snarky, snotty, our-team-must-win, we hate you political discourse since 2000. And yes I would include Roger Ailes, Keith Olberman, Jeffrey Zucker, Bill O'Reilly, Phil Griffin, Rachel Maddow, Michael Moore, Stephen Colbert, and all the rest in there. Stewart was the biggest and worst influence of them all

    Really, if you're wondering about the hysterical venom used to attack Trump and push into the mainstream the Russia Hoax, Stewart is the grandaddy of it all. While he first began as a fair-minded attempt-to-be-even-handed satire/critique of news media in general, by the time of 2006-2007 he had devolved into a snarky, propaganda-spewing Team Blue attack dog, and then, when Obama got in, a Team Blue defense dog and remained so till he quit. The DNC probably still drops checks into his accounts for all he did for them in that period.

    And he's the exec. producer of Colbert's corporate c*ckholder propaganda on CBS, so he's never really left or ceased being a trash propagandist.

    I hate the man, and hope this fails. But Team Blue needs its constant propaganda streams to avoid reality, and he has talent and a name, so it will probably last.

    Replies: @Danindc, @Old Prude, @joe862, @Prester John

    Taki notes Stewart has a face like a penis. Or maybe it was another one of those smug a-holes.

  38. @R.G. Camara
    Jon Stewart is perhaps the single most important person responsible for the devolution of public discourse into the smug, snarky, snotty, our-team-must-win, we hate you political discourse since 2000. And yes I would include Roger Ailes, Keith Olberman, Jeffrey Zucker, Bill O'Reilly, Phil Griffin, Rachel Maddow, Michael Moore, Stephen Colbert, and all the rest in there. Stewart was the biggest and worst influence of them all

    Really, if you're wondering about the hysterical venom used to attack Trump and push into the mainstream the Russia Hoax, Stewart is the grandaddy of it all. While he first began as a fair-minded attempt-to-be-even-handed satire/critique of news media in general, by the time of 2006-2007 he had devolved into a snarky, propaganda-spewing Team Blue attack dog, and then, when Obama got in, a Team Blue defense dog and remained so till he quit. The DNC probably still drops checks into his accounts for all he did for them in that period.

    And he's the exec. producer of Colbert's corporate c*ckholder propaganda on CBS, so he's never really left or ceased being a trash propagandist.

    I hate the man, and hope this fails. But Team Blue needs its constant propaganda streams to avoid reality, and he has talent and a name, so it will probably last.

    Replies: @Danindc, @Old Prude, @joe862, @Prester John

    I haven’t watched a lot of him but I’ve never seen anything that would make me describe him as talented. Smug, snarky, snotty for sure but talented? I tend to think he’ll be remembered as an overrated mediocrity.

  39. I watched the Daily Show one time to see what all the fuss was about. It was even dumber than I thought it would be.

    RG Camara in #8 is spot on.

  40. @Mike Tre
    Here's Jon Leiberschitz'z best scene ever, cowering in fear as Vanilla Ice realizes that he's been made into a laughing stock by the jewish run music industry and reacts accordingly. No, Vanilla!

    https://youtu.be/g2ZkTvLdH2o

    Replies: @Hapalong Cassidy

    I always found it interesting that Vanilla Ice was accused of appropriating Black music and was made fun of the in the media constantly, but the Jewish Beastie Boys received no such criticism.

    • Replies: @Truth
    @Hapalong Cassidy


    Vanilla Ice was accused of appropriating Black music and was made fun of the in the media constantly, but the Jewish Beastie Boys received no such criticism.

     

    It's amazing how powerful the Jews are!


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R1MxGFncZgQ

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JaEdAtIAWvI
  41. @Kylie
    @Sick of Orcs

    "The problem with shitlib propaganda is serious arguments require facts and logic, both enemies of shitlib propaganda."

    How is that a problem? Shitlib propaganda and serious arguments have nothing at all in common. Shitlib propagandists either ignore facts and logic or shout them down.

    "How far does Stewart think he’ll get in a show about gun control without revealing which race is responsible for nearly all gun violence?"

    He'll get a lot farther not revealing which race is responsible for nearly all gun violence than he'd get revealing that fact.

    Replies: @Sick of Orcs, @Veteran Aryan

    By his own admission, the New Stewart plans to be less funny and more serious, which means this new show is either DOA or will revert to shitlib “comedy.”

    • Agree: Kylie
  42. @Anon

    mapped out a season’s worth of subjects, from gun control to climate change.

     

    False range, drives me nuts, sloppy, unedited writing from the internet era. "... including gun control and climate change."

    https://www.dailywritingtips.com/true-and-false-ranges/
    https://thewritingguide.wordpress.com/2009/09/02/the-false-range/

    The classic Jon Stewart has been copied in so many other current shows that he can't really go back to it. In the new show does he manage to avoid the blatant call for laughter where he looks into the camera and mugs? Presumably he has no live audience to appeal to now.

    Replies: @Polistra, @Harry Baldwin, @Prof. Woland

    I like how you used proper grammar to kill the joke.

  43. That diverse pack of “writers” will spend most of their time arguing about what you can’t say. I sure won’t watch their show, but I might watch a meta-show about a pack of humorless SJWs making life miserable for a one-time funny man.

    • Replies: @James J O'Meara
    @International Jew

    It could be the inverse of the Dick Van Dyke show, where the staff were funny but the boss, Alan Brady, was a mean jerk.

  44. @Achmed E. Newman

    And in the second season they will do subjects ranging from climate change to gun control.
     
    LOL

    What it isn’t is laugh-out-loud funny, at least not in the way his Daily Show frequently was.
     
    LOL

    OK, got it.

    Replies: @Shel100, @Sha Na Na is the greatest band in history

    Shouldn’t that have read, laugh out loud funny like The Daily Show with Craig Kilborn was?

  45. Gary Barnett get’s “The Spirit of the Age” about right here:

    https://www.lewrockwell.com/2021/09/gary-d-barnett/our-new-normal-inflation-poverty-starvation-economic-collapse-fascism-marxism-communism-and-murder/

    Our new normal: inflation, poverty, starvation, economic collapse, fascism, marxism, communism and murder.

    Other than that Mrs Lincoln, How did you enjoy the play?

  46. @Anon


    False range, drives me nuts, sloppy, unedited writing from the internet era.

     

    Not to mention comma splices, run-on sentences, what-have-you.
     
    Yes, haha! I do that deliberately in comments, I suppose as a conversational writing style. It's only in the first sentence, mostly of OT comments, when I'm introducing some material, either after or before a block quote. I think it developed gradually, staring with writing like "False range:," and then I'd add a short comment phrase, and then a second, and quickly my nominative introductory phrase label is a couple of lines long.

    Perhaps I should stop, since if nothing else it's quite a blatant style fingerprint for connecting up all my Anon posts for someone trying to dox me. Another stylistic tic I have in comments is writing lists that don't use commas at all, every item connected with "and."

    Replies: @El Dato, @SunBakedSuburb

    Okay.

  47. Jon Stewart wasn’t funny when he was funny.

  48. @Danindc
    @R.G. Camara

    Bill O’Reilly’s first 5 minutes was much watch TV. He’s a truth teller. Don’t besmirch his great name by lumping him in with those degenerates. Delete and apologize!

    Replies: @Corvinus

    Lol, no, O’Reilly was spin, spin, spin. That and grabbing them by the p——.

    • Replies: @SunBakedSuburb
    @Corvinus

    "Lol, no, O'Reilly was spin, spin, spin. That and grabbing them by the p-- --." [sic]

    Your kultural kritiques remain relevant.

    Replies: @Corvinus

  49. @Anon

    mapped out a season’s worth of subjects, from gun control to climate change.

     

    False range, drives me nuts, sloppy, unedited writing from the internet era. "... including gun control and climate change."

    https://www.dailywritingtips.com/true-and-false-ranges/
    https://thewritingguide.wordpress.com/2009/09/02/the-false-range/

    The classic Jon Stewart has been copied in so many other current shows that he can't really go back to it. In the new show does he manage to avoid the blatant call for laughter where he looks into the camera and mugs? Presumably he has no live audience to appeal to now.

    Replies: @Polistra, @Harry Baldwin, @Prof. Woland

    I came across a very interesting article on Gold, Goats, N Guns about Stewart’s return to TV on the Colbert show where his message was that Covid-19 was given to us by the Chinese. Luongo’s premise is that Stewart was changing his pitch to the Gen-X blue pill fools as sort of a warning or to pull them into reality. Stewart was pretending to be a hip comedian but he was really just selling Davos and the DNC. I highly recommend reading it.

    https://tomluongo.me/2021/06/18/john-stewart-does-davos/

  50. @R.G. Camara
    Jon Stewart is perhaps the single most important person responsible for the devolution of public discourse into the smug, snarky, snotty, our-team-must-win, we hate you political discourse since 2000. And yes I would include Roger Ailes, Keith Olberman, Jeffrey Zucker, Bill O'Reilly, Phil Griffin, Rachel Maddow, Michael Moore, Stephen Colbert, and all the rest in there. Stewart was the biggest and worst influence of them all

    Really, if you're wondering about the hysterical venom used to attack Trump and push into the mainstream the Russia Hoax, Stewart is the grandaddy of it all. While he first began as a fair-minded attempt-to-be-even-handed satire/critique of news media in general, by the time of 2006-2007 he had devolved into a snarky, propaganda-spewing Team Blue attack dog, and then, when Obama got in, a Team Blue defense dog and remained so till he quit. The DNC probably still drops checks into his accounts for all he did for them in that period.

    And he's the exec. producer of Colbert's corporate c*ckholder propaganda on CBS, so he's never really left or ceased being a trash propagandist.

    I hate the man, and hope this fails. But Team Blue needs its constant propaganda streams to avoid reality, and he has talent and a name, so it will probably last.

    Replies: @Danindc, @Old Prude, @joe862, @Prester John

    I watched Stewart only a few times and found his shtick tedious. Basically he did agitprop which was trussed up to seem as though it was satire (which, as the saying goes, always closes on Saturday night).

    • Agree: AceDeuce
  51. Stuff from Spirit of the Age department:

    HIGHER EDUCATION
    Men abandon higher education in droves, trail female student enrollment by record levels

    ‘In the next few years, two women will earn a college degree for every man’

    The number of men enrolled at colleges has fallen behind women by record levels, The Wall Street Journal reports.

    The article, headlined “A Generation of American Men Give Up on College: ‘I Just Feel Lost,’” reports that there is a “widening education gap across the U.S.” at two- and four-year colleges and universities:

    At the close of the 2020-21 academic year, women made up 59.5% of college students, an all-time high, and men 40.5%, according to enrollment data from the National Student Clearinghouse, a nonprofit research group. U.S. colleges and universities had 1.5 million fewer students compared with five years ago, and men accounted for 71% of the decline.

    This education gap, which holds at both two- and four-year colleges, has been slowly widening for 40 years. The divergence increases at graduation: After six years of college, 65% of women in the U.S. who started a four-year university in 2012 received diplomas by 2018 compared with 59% of men during the same period, according to the U.S. Department of Education.

    https://www.thecollegefix.com/men-abandon-higher-education-in-droves-trail-female-student-enrollment-by-record-levels/

    7 ways men live without working in America

    Almost one-third of all working-age men in America aren’t doing diddly-squat. They don’t have a job, and they aren’t looking for one either. One-third of all working-age men. That’s almost 30 million people! How do they live? What are they doing for money? To me, this is one of the great mysteries of our time.

    https://finance.yahoo.com/news/7-ways-men-live-without-working-in-america-092147068.html

    • Replies: @Bill Jones
    @epebble


    ‘In the next few years, two women will earn a college degree for every man’
     
    Do I get to choose which women will earn my college degree for me, or is it just random?

    I'd really rather not get one in Mexican Lesbian Dwarf-tossing Studies.

    Replies: @epebble

  52. @Shel100
    @Achmed E. Newman

    There's no humor in communism.

    Replies: @James J O'Meara, @obwandiyag, @Kolya Krassotkin

    In Soviet Union, government laughs at YOU!

    • Thanks: Achmed E. Newman
  53. @Dumbo
    I never found Jon Leibovitz "Stewart" funny, even when he was supposedly being funny.

    "The problem with Jon Stewart" is himself. He's really annoying and grating.

    A lot of "Jewish comedy", at least these days, seems to be about hectoring and insulting people, or just dishing out propaganda.

    I simply never watch that type of show, and I feel fine.

    Replies: @James J O'Meara, @AceDeuce

    “A lot of “Jewish comedy”, at least these days, seems to be about hectoring and insulting people”

    Indeed, and always was. Only a Jew could come up with Don Rickles’ “insult comedy” (including the classic alibi, “I kid, I kid because I love!”; cf. “The Jews cries when he hits you”) or the idea of a “comedy roast”; both are now ubiquitous.

  54. @International Jew
    That diverse pack of "writers" will spend most of their time arguing about what you can't say. I sure won't watch their show, but I might watch a meta-show about a pack of humorless SJWs making life miserable for a one-time funny man.

    Replies: @James J O'Meara

    It could be the inverse of the Dick Van Dyke show, where the staff were funny but the boss, Alan Brady, was a mean jerk.

  55. @J.Ross
    Having recently watched Amazon Women on the Moon (which is brilliant and immortal, and by the not-way [OT] happy 70th birthday to Cassandra "Elvira" Peterson: whaddaya know, that stuff really is great for the skin) in the late 70s and early 80s there was a sort of royal college of comedy (partially illustrated by the Ghostbusters music video proudly showing so many people, who not only were not in, but who really had nothing to do with the movie -- it really was these fifty Canadian buddies who all knew each other) I have to say, "yeah."
    Or, to toss a stone after that of-its-time CV boast, "burgers?"
    The only reason anybody knows Jon Stewart's name is not his shadowdwelling under the hot cancer chick or his non-existant standup career or his appearance in that Dave Chappelle movie. Jon Stewart briefly wielded disproportionate influence in the Dumbya darkness by pulling an Unz, by offering a loud and factually upbacked alternative to the laughable self-appointed priesthood of factuality. That's it. That's the whole thing right there. That's why he ravaged Jim Cramer without ever mentioning why his wicked brother is not like other brothers. That's what he's trying to claw back, after the CDC asked the literate public to believe that Japan, Israel, France and the UK were backward Stalinist enemies of the West.
    I'm just -- ugh, I know, I'm just not going to bother, Jon. I know. Ugh.

    Replies: @SunBakedSuburb, @MEH 0910

    “the CDC asked the literate public to believe that Japan, Israel, France and the UK were backward Stalinist enemies of the West.”

    If by alluding to the newly disclosed CDC decision of May 1, 2021 to stop recording data of “breakthrough” COVID infections because it would upset the Bela Lugosi guy at Pfizer and the rest of the technocrat ghouls you are projecting a bleak but ultimately necessary period of reckoning regarding the Vaccine I am forced to agree with you. Despite your smartass wisecrackery. The “hoax” turned out to be the Vaccine, not the COVID bio-weapon.

    “[elaborate 1970s Dr Strange splash page]”

    1960s Lee-Ditko Dr. Strange is overrated. The creepy occult vibe of the 70s was perfect for that character.

  56. @Corvinus
    @Danindc

    Lol, no, O’Reilly was spin, spin, spin. That and grabbing them by the p——.

    Replies: @SunBakedSuburb

    “Lol, no, O’Reilly was spin, spin, spin. That and grabbing them by the p– –.” [sic]

    Your kultural kritiques remain relevant.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
    @SunBakedSuburb

    It’s not cultural, it’s legal. Once again you’re a day late and a dollar short

    https://static01.nyt.com/files/2018/business/58-3.pdf

  57. @Shel100
    @Achmed E. Newman

    There's no humor in communism.

    Replies: @James J O'Meara, @obwandiyag, @Kolya Krassotkin

    Nope. It seriously makes life better.

    There is lots of humor in capitalism. It is absurdly ludicrous that people actually believe that crock of shit.

  58. @Anon


    False range, drives me nuts, sloppy, unedited writing from the internet era.

     

    Not to mention comma splices, run-on sentences, what-have-you.
     
    Yes, haha! I do that deliberately in comments, I suppose as a conversational writing style. It's only in the first sentence, mostly of OT comments, when I'm introducing some material, either after or before a block quote. I think it developed gradually, staring with writing like "False range:," and then I'd add a short comment phrase, and then a second, and quickly my nominative introductory phrase label is a couple of lines long.

    Perhaps I should stop, since if nothing else it's quite a blatant style fingerprint for connecting up all my Anon posts for someone trying to dox me. Another stylistic tic I have in comments is writing lists that don't use commas at all, every item connected with "and."

    Replies: @El Dato, @SunBakedSuburb

    “connecting up all my Anon posts for someone trying to dox me”

    You needn’t worry: if your true identity is exposed your chocolate-covered banana business will survive. No one can resist your bananas.

  59. @Rob
    I would have more respect for these free-thinking and hard-hitting independent thinkers if one, just one, went off the reservation on one big thing important to progs.

    Like “after careful analysis, we determined that only nuclear power can replace coal baseload production and power the carbon sequestration necessary to stop global warming.”

    Or “Wyatt Cenak went to the border in Texas, then read histories of the Greeks, Romans, and Ottomans. He determined that only an immigration and refugee moratorium, including ending family reunification for immigrants already in America can save our planet, reduce inequality, and recreate the public-spirited first-world society that many of us remember from childhood.”

    Even “we took a deep dive into diversity and affirmative action, we learned that the beneficiaries did not benefit from always being the dumbest person in the room. Companies and governments do best when the people are from the same culture, and government mandates will never change the hearts of Americans. Ensuring that every college-educated black is incompetent at their job is to way to improve race relations.”
    They do not even pretend to present both sides or even variations of what their side believes. It leads to dehumanization and demonization of people with whom you do not have ethical disagreements. You have policy disagreements, snd compromise does not make you morally tainted. This was a huge, a yuuge problem with their coverage of Primary Candidate Trump. The media would not present the reasons Trump supporters said were why they supported him. Even when he pressured Carrier, an air conditioner maker into keeping an American plant open, a concise example of his supporters' motivation and desired outcome, the media coverage was along the lines of “racist misogynist Trump interferes with free market, harms shareholders.”

    God, even typing that makes me sad. What a missed opportunity, more likely a stolen opportunity, the Trump Presidency was. Yes, wages did rise at the bottom of the scale. That was great. But he took ‘expel the illegals. Keep the rest out” from being a solid majority bipartisan issue into the most divisive issue around. Now the Democrats’ oppositional-defiance disorder (cons aren’t the only ones with that) kicked in, along with some backers’ great replacement hankering, to flood America with unvaccinated Mexicans. These sorts just saunter up to the border. They are not even selected for the wherewithal to pay a coyote and the health to cross a river and some desert.

    Replies: @obwandiyag

    You are a nuclear troll.

    You prove what Alexander Cockburn said: “Global warming is a scam for the purpose of pushing nuclear power.”

    I suppose after the next 10 Fukushimas you’ll still be making excuses.

    Here ya go: Global warming theoretically causes some discomfort. Nuclear power, on the other hand, destroys the world forever.

    And of course, people couldn’t start using less power or anything. No, that would be crazy. Where would nuclear power be without ever increasing power usage?!

    I got your number phoney.

    • Replies: @Joe Stalin
    @obwandiyag


    And of course, people couldn’t start using less power or anything. No, that would be crazy. Where would nuclear power be without ever increasing power usage?!
     
    The two Koreas from space.

    https://i.pinimg.com/originals/d0/12/44/d012446ed9e8e04a88ed704f9558f8fc.jpg

    , @Rob
    @obwandiyag

    I think I have two comments that mentioned nuclear power. Nuclear is a way to remember that the left is lying about how important they think AGW is. They would push for nuclear power and against 3rd to 1st world migration, if they thought AGW were going to be bad.

    There is no nuclear accident that could kill tens of millions of people. War is another matter. One could certainly claim that letting third worlders get nuclear material is an accident, but some have nuclear weapons already. So that cats out.
    The consensus on the left is that global warming will turn hundreds of millions into corpses or “climate refugees.” I assume you support keeping them all out.

    Fukushima shows how little danger there is from nuclear power. A terrible, terrible accident. The worst possible. The expected effect on cancer rates: undetectable. Academic estimates of total deaths: zero to hundreds. Direct deaths: one? Coal power likely kills that many a day in China. Coal certainly kills that many annually in America simply through exacerbation of asthma.

    We have to get power somehow. As a practical matter, we will never use less, barring economic collapse. The way the economy actually works, a cutback will leave thousands of poor people dead. The only inconvenience the rich will experience is waiting, in air conditioning, but still, for porters to haul away the dead in wheelbarrows. Given that the easily-reached resources near where people live have been used up (oil in Pennsylvania, fracked excluded), turned to preserves (tons of forests), or put off-limits by environmental regulations (rare earths in the first world) if civilization dies, we will never get another shot at it. The industrial capacity of the US is so degraded, if the US has much more than an economic brownout, this will be a third-world country for most Americans, even white ones.

    Nuclear power, hopefully, thorium, failing that extremely safe options, like subcritical reactors, with fuel recycling (no reason to throw out 98% of the fuel in a rod, and breeding, and it will be centuries before we have to dig more uranium out of the ground. Use nuclear power to run (chemically) unfavorable reactions to pull carbon out of the air, fix it into liquid fuels, not CO2 + energy + super-science --> liquid fuel. But in terms of a methanol economy and billions could be lifted out of poverty without increasing our footprint on the earth.

    You and I are a lot more likely to be walking and bicycling everywhere than a capitalist is likely to not be able to fly around the world on a whim. Without power, “green regulations” mean continued poverty plus lots of people newly poor.

    Atoms ate not scary compared to that.

    Not to mention, I am a vaccine shill.

    So really, we can prolly come up with an mRNA vax against nukular, get a approved in a couple of days, and wham, bam, thank ya ma’am.

    Replies: @obwandiyag

  60. That “clown nose on/clown nose off” tag really got under his skin. Now he’s going to be Maddow with whiskers.

  61. If he’s, in truth, 58 years old, he’s REALLY aging poorly.

    It could lead one to surmise some kind of existentially challenging underlying condition.

  62. @epebble
    Stuff from Spirit of the Age department:

    HIGHER EDUCATION
    Men abandon higher education in droves, trail female student enrollment by record levels


    ‘In the next few years, two women will earn a college degree for every man’

    The number of men enrolled at colleges has fallen behind women by record levels, The Wall Street Journal reports.

    The article, headlined “A Generation of American Men Give Up on College: ‘I Just Feel Lost,'” reports that there is a “widening education gap across the U.S.” at two- and four-year colleges and universities:

    At the close of the 2020-21 academic year, women made up 59.5% of college students, an all-time high, and men 40.5%, according to enrollment data from the National Student Clearinghouse, a nonprofit research group. U.S. colleges and universities had 1.5 million fewer students compared with five years ago, and men accounted for 71% of the decline.

    This education gap, which holds at both two- and four-year colleges, has been slowly widening for 40 years. The divergence increases at graduation: After six years of college, 65% of women in the U.S. who started a four-year university in 2012 received diplomas by 2018 compared with 59% of men during the same period, according to the U.S. Department of Education.

    https://www.thecollegefix.com/men-abandon-higher-education-in-droves-trail-female-student-enrollment-by-record-levels/
     

    7 ways men live without working in America

    Almost one-third of all working-age men in America aren’t doing diddly-squat. They don’t have a job, and they aren’t looking for one either. One-third of all working-age men. That’s almost 30 million people! How do they live? What are they doing for money? To me, this is one of the great mysteries of our time.

    https://finance.yahoo.com/news/7-ways-men-live-without-working-in-america-092147068.html

     

    Replies: @Bill Jones

    ‘In the next few years, two women will earn a college degree for every man’

    Do I get to choose which women will earn my college degree for me, or is it just random?

    I’d really rather not get one in Mexican Lesbian Dwarf-tossing Studies.

    • LOL: Catdog
    • Replies: @epebble
    @Bill Jones

    I think that two women (college graduates) for every man is going to have an impact on rate of marriages. Marriages are quickly becoming fashion accessories for the college graduated. If half the population does not marry and if half or more births are non-marital, the future society will look different. The Moynihan report - "The Negro Family" - may have to be recast as "The American Family".

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Negro_Family:_The_Case_For_National_Action

    Replies: @Bill Jones

  63. @Bill Jones
    @epebble


    ‘In the next few years, two women will earn a college degree for every man’
     
    Do I get to choose which women will earn my college degree for me, or is it just random?

    I'd really rather not get one in Mexican Lesbian Dwarf-tossing Studies.

    Replies: @epebble

    I think that two women (college graduates) for every man is going to have an impact on rate of marriages. Marriages are quickly becoming fashion accessories for the college graduated. If half the population does not marry and if half or more births are non-marital, the future society will look different. The Moynihan report – “The Negro Family” – may have to be recast as “The American Family”.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Negro_Family:_The_Case_For_National_Action

    • Replies: @Bill Jones
    @epebble

    I agree, it's been coming.

    It will be interesting to see what happens when power is entirely removed from producers and transferred to critics.

  64. @SunBakedSuburb
    @Corvinus

    "Lol, no, O'Reilly was spin, spin, spin. That and grabbing them by the p-- --." [sic]

    Your kultural kritiques remain relevant.

    Replies: @Corvinus

    It’s not cultural, it’s legal. Once again you’re a day late and a dollar short

    https://static01.nyt.com/files/2018/business/58-3.pdf

  65. @Dumbo
    I never found Jon Leibovitz "Stewart" funny, even when he was supposedly being funny.

    "The problem with Jon Stewart" is himself. He's really annoying and grating.

    A lot of "Jewish comedy", at least these days, seems to be about hectoring and insulting people, or just dishing out propaganda.

    I simply never watch that type of show, and I feel fine.

    Replies: @James J O'Meara, @AceDeuce

    I tuned in only one time on this Chew Toy’s show, despite hearing endless hype about it back in the day.

    Leibowitz was yammering on with some boo’schitt–actually, he was smirkily, and snarkily (are those words?) trying to discredit some conservative talking point by making fun of it, and making faces the whole while.

    The subject was a familiar one to me, and I was fascinated to hear Leibowitz lie his ass off by misrepresenting and lying his way through it. To the know nothing mouthbreathers comprising his audience who knew no better, I’m sure they thought it was Gospel. He did that for years. Scary.

    Funny how, when he retired, it was to New Jersey-a state oozing with “diversity”–but, in his case, a rich 98% + White area.

    • Replies: @Ian M.
    @AceDeuce


    Leibowitz was yammering on with some boo’schitt–actually, he was smirkily, and snarkily (are those words?) trying to discredit some conservative talking point by making fun of it, and making faces the whole while.
     
    That's pretty much what his 'humor', such as it was, consisted of on his show: he would say something he thought was absurd, and then make a face to signal to the viewer that you too were supposed to find it absurd and therefore laugh.

    Which even then might have worked somewhat as comedy were he one of those comedians who is really talented at pulling funny faces. He isn't. The reason it 'worked' is because his audience agreed with his political stances.

    I thought he was much better when he played the straight man on his show with one of his 'correspondents'.

    I did see him do stand-up live once (for free, I never would have paid to see him). He was much funnier doing that. His quick wit really came through in that context.
  66. @Hapalong Cassidy
    @Mike Tre

    I always found it interesting that Vanilla Ice was accused of appropriating Black music and was made fun of the in the media constantly, but the Jewish Beastie Boys received no such criticism.

    Replies: @Truth

    Vanilla Ice was accused of appropriating Black music and was made fun of the in the media constantly, but the Jewish Beastie Boys received no such criticism.

    It’s amazing how powerful the Jews are!

  67. @Shel100
    @Achmed E. Newman

    There's no humor in communism.

    Replies: @James J O'Meara, @obwandiyag, @Kolya Krassotkin

    “There’s no humor in communism.”

    Nor in Lesbianism. You’ll sooner see “The Book of Big Lesbian Humor” than you will “The Big Book of Lesbian Humor.”

  68. Something else is not funny, iSteve. Disinformation. Seems to be a lot of that going on, here or there. But that requires NOTICING.

    https://mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSL1N2Q22W0?__twitter_impression=true

    • Replies: @Thirdtwin
    @Corvinus

    Oh, so they were just having harmless hijinks with our abandoned helicopter. I feel much better now that I know it was a fake noose.

  69. @epebble
    @Bill Jones

    I think that two women (college graduates) for every man is going to have an impact on rate of marriages. Marriages are quickly becoming fashion accessories for the college graduated. If half the population does not marry and if half or more births are non-marital, the future society will look different. The Moynihan report - "The Negro Family" - may have to be recast as "The American Family".

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Negro_Family:_The_Case_For_National_Action

    Replies: @Bill Jones

    I agree, it’s been coming.

    It will be interesting to see what happens when power is entirely removed from producers and transferred to critics.

  70. @obwandiyag
    @Rob

    You are a nuclear troll.

    You prove what Alexander Cockburn said: "Global warming is a scam for the purpose of pushing nuclear power."

    I suppose after the next 10 Fukushimas you'll still be making excuses.

    Here ya go: Global warming theoretically causes some discomfort. Nuclear power, on the other hand, destroys the world forever.

    And of course, people couldn't start using less power or anything. No, that would be crazy. Where would nuclear power be without ever increasing power usage?!

    I got your number phoney.

    Replies: @Joe Stalin, @Rob

    And of course, people couldn’t start using less power or anything. No, that would be crazy. Where would nuclear power be without ever increasing power usage?!

    The two Koreas from space.

  71. @Corvinus
    Something else is not funny, iSteve. Disinformation. Seems to be a lot of that going on, here or there. But that requires NOTICING.

    https://mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSL1N2Q22W0?__twitter_impression=true

    Replies: @Thirdtwin

    Oh, so they were just having harmless hijinks with our abandoned helicopter. I feel much better now that I know it was a fake noose.

  72. @Kylie
    @Sick of Orcs

    "The problem with shitlib propaganda is serious arguments require facts and logic, both enemies of shitlib propaganda."

    How is that a problem? Shitlib propaganda and serious arguments have nothing at all in common. Shitlib propagandists either ignore facts and logic or shout them down.

    "How far does Stewart think he’ll get in a show about gun control without revealing which race is responsible for nearly all gun violence?"

    He'll get a lot farther not revealing which race is responsible for nearly all gun violence than he'd get revealing that fact.

    Replies: @Sick of Orcs, @Veteran Aryan

    …which race is responsible for nearly all gun violence…

    And of course a lefty would never include suicide under the phrase “gun violence,” they’re just too honest to pull something like that.

  73. @El Dato
    @Sick of Orcs

    You can make pretty good jokes out of logic

    Monty Python: The Logician

    Trigger warning: Extremely non-woke, I don't even understand how this is even on YouTube anymore.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZ2FeXwMyFI

    Replies: @Catdog

    It’s not.

  74. @AceDeuce
    @Dumbo

    I tuned in only one time on this Chew Toy's show, despite hearing endless hype about it back in the day.


    Leibowitz was yammering on with some boo'schitt--actually, he was smirkily, and snarkily (are those words?) trying to discredit some conservative talking point by making fun of it, and making faces the whole while.

    The subject was a familiar one to me, and I was fascinated to hear Leibowitz lie his ass off by misrepresenting and lying his way through it. To the know nothing mouthbreathers comprising his audience who knew no better, I'm sure they thought it was Gospel. He did that for years. Scary.

    Funny how, when he retired, it was to New Jersey-a state oozing with "diversity"--but, in his case, a rich 98% + White area.

    Replies: @Ian M.

    Leibowitz was yammering on with some boo’schitt–actually, he was smirkily, and snarkily (are those words?) trying to discredit some conservative talking point by making fun of it, and making faces the whole while.

    That’s pretty much what his ‘humor’, such as it was, consisted of on his show: he would say something he thought was absurd, and then make a face to signal to the viewer that you too were supposed to find it absurd and therefore laugh.

    Which even then might have worked somewhat as comedy were he one of those comedians who is really talented at pulling funny faces. He isn’t. The reason it ‘worked’ is because his audience agreed with his political stances.

    I thought he was much better when he played the straight man on his show with one of his ‘correspondents’.

    I did see him do stand-up live once (for free, I never would have paid to see him). He was much funnier doing that. His quick wit really came through in that context.

    • Thanks: AceDeuce
  75. @obwandiyag
    @Rob

    You are a nuclear troll.

    You prove what Alexander Cockburn said: "Global warming is a scam for the purpose of pushing nuclear power."

    I suppose after the next 10 Fukushimas you'll still be making excuses.

    Here ya go: Global warming theoretically causes some discomfort. Nuclear power, on the other hand, destroys the world forever.

    And of course, people couldn't start using less power or anything. No, that would be crazy. Where would nuclear power be without ever increasing power usage?!

    I got your number phoney.

    Replies: @Joe Stalin, @Rob

    I think I have two comments that mentioned nuclear power. Nuclear is a way to remember that the left is lying about how important they think AGW is. They would push for nuclear power and against 3rd to 1st world migration, if they thought AGW were going to be bad.

    There is no nuclear accident that could kill tens of millions of people. War is another matter. One could certainly claim that letting third worlders get nuclear material is an accident, but some have nuclear weapons already. So that cats out.
    The consensus on the left is that global warming will turn hundreds of millions into corpses or “climate refugees.” I assume you support keeping them all out.

    Fukushima shows how little danger there is from nuclear power. A terrible, terrible accident. The worst possible. The expected effect on cancer rates: undetectable. Academic estimates of total deaths: zero to hundreds. Direct deaths: one? Coal power likely kills that many a day in China. Coal certainly kills that many annually in America simply through exacerbation of asthma.

    We have to get power somehow. As a practical matter, we will never use less, barring economic collapse. The way the economy actually works, a cutback will leave thousands of poor people dead. The only inconvenience the rich will experience is waiting, in air conditioning, but still, for porters to haul away the dead in wheelbarrows. Given that the easily-reached resources near where people live have been used up (oil in Pennsylvania, fracked excluded), turned to preserves (tons of forests), or put off-limits by environmental regulations (rare earths in the first world) if civilization dies, we will never get another shot at it. The industrial capacity of the US is so degraded, if the US has much more than an economic brownout, this will be a third-world country for most Americans, even white ones.

    Nuclear power, hopefully, thorium, failing that extremely safe options, like subcritical reactors, with fuel recycling (no reason to throw out 98% of the fuel in a rod, and breeding, and it will be centuries before we have to dig more uranium out of the ground. Use nuclear power to run (chemically) unfavorable reactions to pull carbon out of the air, fix it into liquid fuels, not CO2 + energy + super-science –> liquid fuel. But in terms of a methanol economy and billions could be lifted out of poverty without increasing our footprint on the earth.

    You and I are a lot more likely to be walking and bicycling everywhere than a capitalist is likely to not be able to fly around the world on a whim. Without power, “green regulations” mean continued poverty plus lots of people newly poor.

    Atoms ate not scary compared to that.

    Not to mention, I am a vaccine shill.

    So really, we can prolly come up with an mRNA vax against nukular, get a approved in a couple of days, and wham, bam, thank ya ma’am.

    • Replies: @obwandiyag
    @Rob

    You are a patent nuclear troll.

    You trot out all the textbook talking points. They are all bogus. (Good c&p'ing.)

    They are merely empty meaningless assertions.

    I got a assertion for you.

    You are full of shit.

    Either you are a chump or a shill. No two ways about it.

  76. @Rob
    @obwandiyag

    I think I have two comments that mentioned nuclear power. Nuclear is a way to remember that the left is lying about how important they think AGW is. They would push for nuclear power and against 3rd to 1st world migration, if they thought AGW were going to be bad.

    There is no nuclear accident that could kill tens of millions of people. War is another matter. One could certainly claim that letting third worlders get nuclear material is an accident, but some have nuclear weapons already. So that cats out.
    The consensus on the left is that global warming will turn hundreds of millions into corpses or “climate refugees.” I assume you support keeping them all out.

    Fukushima shows how little danger there is from nuclear power. A terrible, terrible accident. The worst possible. The expected effect on cancer rates: undetectable. Academic estimates of total deaths: zero to hundreds. Direct deaths: one? Coal power likely kills that many a day in China. Coal certainly kills that many annually in America simply through exacerbation of asthma.

    We have to get power somehow. As a practical matter, we will never use less, barring economic collapse. The way the economy actually works, a cutback will leave thousands of poor people dead. The only inconvenience the rich will experience is waiting, in air conditioning, but still, for porters to haul away the dead in wheelbarrows. Given that the easily-reached resources near where people live have been used up (oil in Pennsylvania, fracked excluded), turned to preserves (tons of forests), or put off-limits by environmental regulations (rare earths in the first world) if civilization dies, we will never get another shot at it. The industrial capacity of the US is so degraded, if the US has much more than an economic brownout, this will be a third-world country for most Americans, even white ones.

    Nuclear power, hopefully, thorium, failing that extremely safe options, like subcritical reactors, with fuel recycling (no reason to throw out 98% of the fuel in a rod, and breeding, and it will be centuries before we have to dig more uranium out of the ground. Use nuclear power to run (chemically) unfavorable reactions to pull carbon out of the air, fix it into liquid fuels, not CO2 + energy + super-science --> liquid fuel. But in terms of a methanol economy and billions could be lifted out of poverty without increasing our footprint on the earth.

    You and I are a lot more likely to be walking and bicycling everywhere than a capitalist is likely to not be able to fly around the world on a whim. Without power, “green regulations” mean continued poverty plus lots of people newly poor.

    Atoms ate not scary compared to that.

    Not to mention, I am a vaccine shill.

    So really, we can prolly come up with an mRNA vax against nukular, get a approved in a couple of days, and wham, bam, thank ya ma’am.

    Replies: @obwandiyag

    You are a patent nuclear troll.

    You trot out all the textbook talking points. They are all bogus. (Good c&p’ing.)

    They are merely empty meaningless assertions.

    I got a assertion for you.

    You are full of shit.

    Either you are a chump or a shill. No two ways about it.

  77. @J.Ross
    Having recently watched Amazon Women on the Moon (which is brilliant and immortal, and by the not-way [OT] happy 70th birthday to Cassandra "Elvira" Peterson: whaddaya know, that stuff really is great for the skin) in the late 70s and early 80s there was a sort of royal college of comedy (partially illustrated by the Ghostbusters music video proudly showing so many people, who not only were not in, but who really had nothing to do with the movie -- it really was these fifty Canadian buddies who all knew each other) I have to say, "yeah."
    Or, to toss a stone after that of-its-time CV boast, "burgers?"
    The only reason anybody knows Jon Stewart's name is not his shadowdwelling under the hot cancer chick or his non-existant standup career or his appearance in that Dave Chappelle movie. Jon Stewart briefly wielded disproportionate influence in the Dumbya darkness by pulling an Unz, by offering a loud and factually upbacked alternative to the laughable self-appointed priesthood of factuality. That's it. That's the whole thing right there. That's why he ravaged Jim Cramer without ever mentioning why his wicked brother is not like other brothers. That's what he's trying to claw back, after the CDC asked the literate public to believe that Japan, Israel, France and the UK were backward Stalinist enemies of the West.
    I'm just -- ugh, I know, I'm just not going to bother, Jon. I know. Ugh.

    Replies: @SunBakedSuburb, @MEH 0910

    https://twitter.com/search?q=Elvira&src=trend_click&vertical=trends

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