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From the Smithsonian’s National Museum of African-American History and Culture web page on “Whiteness:”

Obviously, this is intended with hostility … but if you subtitled it “How to Get to the Moon by 1969” and tacked it up on a college bulletin board, there’d be a nationwide freakout over secret white supremacists running amok on campus.

 
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  1. Polynikes says:

    “Emphasis on the scientific method”….lmao. I would’ve guessed the Babylon Bee if it wasn’t already attributed.

    • Agree: Father Coughlin
    • LOL: ScarletNumber
    • Replies: @syonredux
    , @Forbes
  2. res says:

    Any similar graphics for other groups?

    If all of those ideas are considered bad it explains a lot about why some groups are so good at failing.

  3. Rich says:

    Most of the things listed on that poster appear to be true (and make for a terrific culture), but I’m not sure why steak and potatoes would be considered “bland”. Whoever made this list probably doesn’t know the right way to cook a steak or a potato.

  4. Voltarde says:

    What’s not to like?

    • Agree: Malla
  5. Your tax dollars at work.

  6. anon[318] • Disclaimer says:

    • Replies: @America1st
    , @Cloudbuster
  7. Flubber says:

    The fact that the Smithsonian sees any of the listed traits as a problem highlights the utter dysfunction of the black community.

    Ignore this list, do the opposite, and success awaits, obviously.

    • Replies: @Lockean Proviso
  8. Jmaie says:

    These are not things that “normalized over time.” They are normal things that were accepted by all not that long ago.

    • Replies: @c matt
  9. Thomas says:

    When I first saw this earlier today, my first reaction as a White American was, with a couple reservations, “Ok… Thanks for the compliments, I guess?”

    • Agree: Gunga Din, Cloudbuster
  10. Kronos says:

    I love how they present English WASPs as “King of the White People.”

    “Sorry Frenchie, move over Germans, Poles and Italians sit in the back!”

    • LOL: BB753
  11. @Kronos

    Claiming olive oil might be a stretch.

    Still, Uncle Paulie was a King.

    • Agree: Kronos
    • LOL: Kylie
    • Replies: @Kronos
    , @Kylie
  12. Arclight says:

    It’s too ridiculous – most people across the spectrum think these are positive traits, so by highlighting a deficit to whites isn’t this a POC self own?

  13. trelane says:

    European superior culture. Superior to all others on earth. Take Italy for just one example. No one compares.

  14. Rosie says:
    @res

    If all of those ideas are considered bad it explains a lot about why some groups are so good at failing.

    They’re not bad, but that infographic is certainly one-sided, and so oversimplified as to be essentially a caricature. It starts from the very first entry: rugged individualism. There is nothing particularly rugged about our individualism. It has always been balanced by family ties, religious sensibilities, and even a very healthy dose of state socialism.

    And if White wives are “subordinate,” then what do we say about wives who aren’t White?

    • Agree: LondonBob
  15. Thomas says:
    @res

    Any similar graphics for other groups?

    Someone should really, really insist on the Smithsonian creating and publishing them.

    If all of those ideas are considered bad it explains a lot about why some groups are so good at failing.

    Hard work, individual self-improvement, sexual chastity, religious asceticism, frugality, punctuality, the search for and acceptance of objective reality, public modesty, sobriety, deferral of gratification, and the rest of “White Man Magic” doesn’t come naturally to anyone. Children don’t demonstrate it unless and until they’re taught to. It’s very possible that not every subpopulation of humans is as capable of it as every other.

    The fruits of it though are something that everybody wants, whether they’ve earned them or not. If they can’t, the temptation to falsely characterize those fruits when enjoyed by others as the ill-gotten gains of perfidy and oppression is all too easy, and all too easy to encourage.

    • Agree: Cato, bomag, James N. Kennett
    • Replies: @Dutch Boy
  16. As the wag asked when the usual suspects complained about installing a plaque featuring the Ten Commandments: “Which one do you object to?”

    • LOL: Rosie
  17. Hhsiii says:

    I can’t get no
    Deferred gratification

    • LOL: Gordo, Antiwar7, Rob McX
    • Replies: @Rosie
  18. @res

    Where’s the Venn diagram showing the intersectionality?

    • LOL: res
  19. J.Ross says:

    Wait a minute, I thought that the party line was that white people didn’t have a culture?

    • Agree: Red Pill Angel
    • LOL: Andy
    • Replies: @Kronos
  20. Kronos says:
    @Clifford Brown

    When was the last time a white woman was “subordinate” to the white husband? While growing up, I was aware of only two couples where the man was the true leader of the household (both we’re Catholic.) Otherwise, the chick was always running the show despite pronouncements of an “equal” marriage.

  21. syonredux says:
    @Polynikes

    “Emphasis on the scientific method”….lmao. I would’ve guessed the Babylon Bee if it wasn’t already attributed.

    Emphasis on the scientific method:

    Objective, rational, linear thinking

    Cause and effect relationships

    Quantitative emphasis

    Who knew that the White man’s culture was that evil…..

    • Replies: @anonymous
  22. Thea says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    NPR played the lovely and inspiring Handel’s Messiah today. These are the same people who force removal of Ten Commandments monuments yet they use public funds for “The Lord God omnipotent reigneth.”

  23. Thea says:

    Is the target audience whites, whom they want to stop doing these things out of a desire to sabotage? Or is it trying to make other groups feel better about themselves by turning vice into virtue?

    Both are a form of attempted sabotage from opposing angles.

  24. Kronos says:
    @Rich

    They’ve probably only ever eaten this their entire life.

  25. Rosie says:
    @Hhsiii

    I can’t get no
    Deferred gratification

    Deferred gratification is not an unqualified good, or better yet, there is such a thing as too much of a good thing.

    White people are not especially prone to this, though. Why pick on us, as opposed to, say, certain ambitious minorities?

    • Disagree: Cloudbuster
    • Replies: @hhsiii
    , @Cloudbuster
  26. Extroversion is White? In Smithsonian/bizarro world Black culture is introverted?

    • Agree: Just another serf
    • Replies: @Rosie
    , @Dumbo
    , @Charlotte
    , @Neuday
    , @Anon
  27. Rosie says:
    @kaganovitch

    Extroversion is White? In Smithsonian/bizarro world Black culture is introverted?

    And Whites are clearly all about “majority rules” and don’t care at all about “minority rights.”

    Good grief! If the past several decades of concessions hasn’t convinced these people of our good will, clearly nothing ever will.

    • Replies: @BenKenobi
  28. syonredux says:

    Aesthetics:

    Based on European culture

    vs

    Woman’s beauty based on blonde, thin-“Barbie”

    vs

    And people wonder why Whites and Blacks don’t get along….

  29. Anon[388] • Disclaimer says:

    The poster is based on caricatures. Some of it is true in a sense, some of it couldn’t be more wrong, but all of it is shallow.

    The poster’s nature is parallel to the nature of all propaganda.

    The exhibit will be all of the high school graduates trying to articulate arguments, without purpose, as to how their non-functional values are equivalent in worth to any of the functional values alluded to on the poster.

    Values, like “cooperation” that they don’t actually hold and aren’t effective at instituting whatsoever.

    Degree of effective cooperation is actually directly indicative of civilization in 2020. The lack of the latter is indicative of lack of the former. No exceptions.

    • Replies: @BB753
    , @NOTA
  30. Michael S says:

    That’s… not actually such a bad list, and they’re committing the sin of acknowledging that there actually is a “white culture” in America. Although a lot of the entries on that list aren’t really so unique to white Americans.

    For example, the beauty standard. If it’s so intrinsic to “white culture” then why does every single other culture in the world seem to want our women and be willing to travel halfway around the world just to get one? I don’t see black men clamoring to date Chinese women and I definitely don’t see Chinese men (or Arab men, or any men) going gaga over THIC black ladies.

    Maybe – just maybe – black women are objectively not all that attractive, and being eternally incensed about this, insist that their own men lust after white women only because whitey tells them to. Maybe. Just a hypothesis.

  31. MBlanc46 says:
    @syonredux

    That is harsh. True. But harsh.

  32. A federally chartered and funded “educational” institution and they can’t even bother to hang the flag correctly.

    … Yeah, yeah, i’m showing my nasty white “rule following”.

    “Hopelessly white”

    • Replies: @Jack D
  33. I thought this list was very fair. I don’t think European food is bland, though it’s not usually not very spicy. There is an enormous variety in European cooking.

    But it’s all fairly accurate and explains why America used to be such a great country. A rare reasoned compliment by the Smithsonian.

  34. @Warner

    Eastern Standard Time. Via Steve’s Smithsonian link, the graphic is a word-for-word illustration of the original list by:

    Judith H. Katz ⓒ1990. The Kaleel Jamison Consulting Group, Inc.

    To my surprise, (the late) Kaleel Jamison was not a Black guy.

    Anyway, I propose an additional official iSteve sidebar motto:

    Plus ça change, plus Sailer même chose.

    • Replies: @Mr McKenna
    , @Anon
  35. JohnnyD says:

    So in other words, white people are bad because they don’t like being losers. Good to know.

  36. syonredux says:
    @syonredux

    Interesting…..

    It was important, if incalculably so, that English discovery of Black Africans came at a time when the accepted standard of ideal beauty was a fair complexion of rose and white.Negroes not only failed to fit this ideal but seemed the very picture of perverse negation.

    -Winthrop Jordan , White Over Black

    • Replies: @Moses
  37. hhsiii says:
    @Rosie

    Fortunately during Covid times my wife, 3 kids and I all do our remote workin’ and learnin’ in the same circumscribed space

  38. They left out “Showers regularly”.

    • LOL: bruce county
  39. anonymous[238] • Disclaimer says:
    @syonredux

    You forgot Competence, the ability to do something successfully or efficiently.

  40. PiousAnon says:

    Having your Baby Boomer parents reduced to a stereotype is better than being told you are an unperson who “has no culture.” It’s progress, I’ll take it. For now.

  41. @syonredux

    Syon, next time hide the uggos under the MORE tag. Thanks.

  42. notsaying says:

    They went back 30 years to illustrate and publish what one woman thought about white people? You have to be kidding me.

    And this is a new national museum? I can hardly believe this. I wonder who gets this handout and how they respond.

    • Replies: @cityview
  43. Judith Katz

    Every single time

    • Replies: @bruce county
    , @Anon Chief
  44. J.Ross says:
    @Warner

    The Jew tells you to take the day off and not worry about punctuality as she tigermoms her own kids.

    • Agree: Rosie
  45. Moses says:
    @syonredux

    That middle White woman pic has gotta be a trans. The man-jaw!

    • Replies: @Brutusale
    , @Mr. Anon
  46. BenKenobi says:
    @Rosie

    We’ve been too nice.

    If progressives are the standard of good, I shall content myself with evil.

  47. How are “aggressiveness and extroversion” part of “whiteness”? Compared to blacks, how many whites are introverts with melancholic or phlegmatic temperaments? That sounds like a person trying to come up with a list of behaviors that are stereotypically associated with high social status and then applying that list to whites.

    Consider how many black celebrities there are vs. how many Asian celebrities there are. Might that not be explained by relative levels of extroversion?

  48. @Rich

    If this list really does date back to 1990, I can testify that food back then was bland. “Foodies” weren’t a thing yet, farmers’ markets weren’t a thing yet–hell, SWPL wasn’t a thing yet. I remember Hamburger Helper, tuna noodle casserole (blech!), and Better Crocker. The long mid-20th century of blandness.

    • Agree: Thea
    • Replies: @Rich
    , @Thea
    , @Forbes
  49. Dumbo says:
    @syonredux

    Yeah, but, you know… These pictures are false because not all white women are pretty “Barbies” like those. In fact, it’s a tiny minority. Most white women, especially today, are fat, tattooed or just average looking. Also, there are some attractive black women (but they are usually very mixed with white).

    The same for goes for “European culture”. Those are great works of the past, but is current contemporary white culture that great? Modern architecture? Current pop music? Sitcoms? Gay pride marches? I don’t know…

    Still, it’s been a great run, we might be great again.

    • Agree: Fluesterwitz, Old Prude
    • Replies: @syonredux
    , @Stan Adams
    , @Neuday
  50. jon says:

    Follow rigid time schedules

    Hahaha, did they really just acknowledge publicly that “colored people time” is a thing? I mean, the whole poster is basically an “own goal” against blacks and their dysfunctional culture, but that’s the best thing on there.

    • Agree: ScarletNumber
    • Replies: @Kolya Krassotkin
  51. Dumbo says:
    @kaganovitch

    I’m thinking now that, since the list appears to have been written by a Jewish woman, it sort of shows things from a Jewish (female?) perspective. That’s why the emphasis on the hated/envied Wasps, and the “Judeo-Christian” term (although, it might be true that Protestantism is “Judeo-Christian”).

    As for extroversion, I suppose the comparison is to Jews, not to Blacks. Then again, I don’t know, as Jews (at least most Jews I met) are not exactly introverted, while modern White culture has a large streak of nerdism/introversion, focusing on books, movies, video games, melancholy songs, intellectual pursuits, etc. Still, in anglo culture in general, extroverts are exalted (winners) while introverts are not (losers). Extroversion is clearly a positive value in “white culture”.

    Blacks don’t have self-reflection enough to be introvert, I doubt most even understand the concept.

    • Replies: @dvorak
  52. Kronos says:
    @J.Ross

    They really don’t. If anything was a “social construct” it would be whiteness.

    (This was made waaaayy back in 2004, long before the “Great Awokening.”)

  53. @Jenner Ickham Errican

    Eastern Standard Time.

    What time it is! Bout time people were catching on 😉

  54. Anonymous[195] • Disclaimer says:

    White Culture or White Values these days are about…

    1. Cucking to Jews and supporting Zionist ‘genocide’ of Palestinians and Wars for Israel. And hating whatever nation hated by Jews: Russia, Iran, Syria, Venezuela, etc.

    2. Cucking to blacks and worship black rappers as prophets and black athletes as demigods. It’s about jungle fever and jungle faith.

    3. Cucking to homos and trannies because… Jewish Media say you better.

    4. Virtue-signaling by attacking other whites for wokemon points. If it’s get tiresome attacking ‘white supremacism’, come up with ‘white fragility’ and attack other white ‘liberals’ as insufficiently proggy.

  55. Kronos says:
    @Clifford Brown

    It really is one of my favorite scenes from the sopranos. You can feel the rage inside Paulie while he’s staring at that espresso maker.

    (I edited the video out at the last minute on my previous post but here it is.)

    Also, those Italian espresso makers are made of aluminum which is a very soft metal and breaks easy. It’s not good for humans to consume aluminum. It’s better to go with a french press.

  56. Altai says:

    ‘Heavy focus on the British empire’

    Is there? It comes up with Jamestown, in the war of independence, 1812, somewhat with the Barbary wars and the ending of slavery but other than that? Not as an actual topic in and of itself.

    • Replies: @Graham
    , @Adamant
  57. MEH 0910 says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    The Simpsons – Homer the Thief and the Ten Commandments

  58. i wonder oof people in Uruguay and Bulgaria are white?

  59. I prefer an integer number of children in my house. The author of this piece (could be woman of color or just fugly white SJW) let her mask slip when discussing Aesthetics. Win at all costs: that’s unfair. Other than that, the list sounds pretty damn good to me. Where is this happening? Sign me up.

  60. @Kronos

    Thank you for the link and not making me look like a complete maniac.

    I am a semi-maniac, not a complete one.

  61. TheBoom says:

    Was this list on whiteness created by a secret white supremacist? If a white person created this list, he or she would be canceled for racism.

    I did learn something though. I never knew decision – making is specifically a white trait. Seems like a great rationale for reestablishing colonialism

    • Agree: Cloudbuster
  62. Kronos says:

    I have a horrendous habit of performing most of my editing/proof reading only after I’ve submitted the post. I’ll often rundown the 5min editing window provided by this site.

  63. @Reg Cæsar

    “Which one do you object to?”

    The very first one, obviously. The rest follows.

  64. Woke Left: “Science, family, and justice are evil and white!”
    Bari Weiss: “I’m leaving the NYT because crazy woke leftists have taken control.”
    Unz & Steve: “Ha, ha, Bari. Don’t let the door hit you on the way out!!”

  65. @Chrisnonymous

    The irony, of course, is that actual “white cooking” reflects an obsession with quality and variety that applies all the “white” things in the Smithsonian’s graph–like curiosity, research, and hard work–to food culture.

    • Replies: @Clyde
  66. syonredux says:
    @Dumbo

    Get Woke, bigot. According to the Smithsonian, White culture is defined by European aesthetics, the scientific method, and thin, blonde women who look like Barbie:

    • LOL: Dumbo
  67. At this point, all political discourse has descended into people attacking their shadow, to Yang being in conflict with Yin, the Animus with the Anima, the Apollonian with the Dionysian/Cthonic, artifice with nature, the head with the heart, the sky with the ground, perspective with feeling etc. etc.

    Or, in the so-unsubtle-framing it’d be too ham-handed to work in a YA novel, the split is made between whiteness and blackness.

    We are about to be in for a very rough ride indeed. Society wide transcendental crises tend to be resolved through some form of semi-ritualised sacrifice. The US is at war with itself. Where’s the scapegoat?

    • Thanks: Harry Baldwin
    • Replies: @Redneck farmer
  68. @Columbkille77

    …though it’s not usually not very spicy.

    Horseradish, onions, fermented stuff are typically ‘white’.

  69. dvorak says:
    @Dumbo

    it sort of shows things from a Jewish (female?) perspective

    Non-alpha men are invisible to women, that’s why Katz says (with a quickening pulse) that White men are extroverts, aggressive and dominant.

    • Replies: @Dumbo
  70. Gordo says:
    @Warner

    By Judith Katz.

    All you need to know.

    You mean the coloured folk didn’t even get to write this?

    • LOL: bomag
    • Replies: @Anon
    , @Jim Don Bob
  71. @Flubber

    Ignore this list, do the opposite, and success awaits, obviously.

    It does now, in Clown World- the Dictatorship of the Lumpenproletariat and Antechamber of Wakanda.
    The worst shall be first.

  72. Dumbo says:
    @dvorak

    Yeah, I think she had in mind Haven Monahan when writing this, not your average white.

  73. Anon[150] • Disclaimer says:

    Christina Hoff Somers in her Twitter feed traced this back word for word to copyrighted presentation materials from a white, Jewish anti racism consultant, and with that name I traced it in a more rudimentary form to a book she published in 1978 that is in Google Books. This stuff has been around a long, long time.

    To say that blacks have to some extent internalized white, rational culture suggests that blacks have some sort of innate or persistent culture that remains underneath the false, adopted white culture, an intractable late-to-meetings culture that awaits liberation to completely resurface. Is this really the message they want to convey?

    This is certainly a way to end-run defenses of disproportionate representation. The metrics people are judged by are just racist. You expect me to be at work on time, and explain my decisions in coherent written form? Racist!

    Eventually the rubber hits the road. Steve’s post on the professor who fell asleep during a Zoom indoctrination meeting? Reading the background on that one, the underlying complaint was that the professor was racist and fat phobic because she complained about the number of obese black female students who rode the elevator at the same time. But elevators obey the laws of physics, not the laws of social justice.

    • Replies: @ScarletNumber
    , @Anonymous
  74. black sea says:

    When I consider my own flaws and shortcomings — or what I perceive to be flaws and shortcomings — and match them up against this poster, I find that those qualities which I would most like to change about myself are almost invariably associated with insufficient “WHITENESS.”

    I am not rugged, though I suppose I am individualistic.

    I value the family structure, but it took me until middle age to get around to actually forming one.

    I do not work before play, or if I do, it is only because I fear “the Man.”

    I am not #1 at anything, nor do I even try to be.

    I rarely win, even at minimal cost.

    I am crippled with self-doubt and struggle to make decisions.

    I avoid conflict, don’t discuss my emotions, and am far too polite for today’s social discourse.

    No wonder I get along so well outside my tribe.

    • Thanks: notsaying
    • Replies: @botazefa
    , @Keypusher
  75. LO muggafuggin L to the LOL

  76. Jack D says:
    @AnotherDad

    Maybe whichever Chinese person designed the Trump eagle T-shirt also designed this website.

  77. Looks okay to me. Somebody needs to do the equivalent page for black culture.

    • Replies: @Known Fact
  78. Jack D says:
    @Kronos

    Aluminum is one of the most common elements in the earth’s crust, #3 after oxygen and silicon ( it is found as an oxide as are most ores – however unlike iron there is no simple way to reduce aluminum ore back to the pure metal and so aluminum was largely unknown throughout history despite the fact that we are knee deep in the stuff everywhere). As such it is taken up by vegetables, esp. green leafy vegetables like spinach and lettuce. So you are getting plenty of aluminum in your diet already, much more than you get from aluminum cookware. At one time someone tried to link use of aluminum cookware with Alzheimer’s Disease but more recent studies fail to show any link so enjoy your aluminum moka pot. If it really bothers you there are stainless steel moka pots available.

    • Agree: BB753, DCThrowback
    • Thanks: PiltdownMan
    • Replies: @Ozymandias
  79. nebulafox says:

    TBH, I’d like to think that if I wasn’t white, I’d be honestly insulted at the implication that valuing your family, going to church, planning for the future, accepting empiricism, and working hard are specifically “white” traits.

    • Agree: Inquiring Mind
  80. The Smithsonian Museum of African whatever has performed a valuable service in preserving a record of a fast vanishing (Non-African) culture. I’m going to print this out and fix it to the side of the refrigerator door.

  81. Jack D says:

    On the same page, they talk about the “Invisible Knapsack” of white privilege. This is much more obnoxious.

    what white privilege looks like in day to day living:

    I can if I wish arrange to be in the company of people of my race most of the time.
    I can avoid spending time with people whom I was trained to mistrust and who have learned to mistrust my kind or me.
    If I should need to move, I can be pretty sure of renting or purchasing housing in an area which I can afford and in which I would want to live.
    I can be pretty sure that my neighbors in such a location will be neutral or pleasant to me.
    I can go shopping alone most of the time, pretty well assured that I will not be followed or harassed
    I can turn on the television or open to the front page of the paper and see people of my race widely represented.
    When I am told about our national heritage or about “civilization,” I am shown that people of my color made it what it is.
    I can be sure that my children will be given curricular materials that testify to the existence of their race.
    If I want to, I can be pretty sure of finding a publisher for this piece on white privilege.
    I can be pretty sure of having my voice heard in a group in which I am the only member of my race.
    I can be casual about whether or not to listen to another person’s voice in a group in which s/he is the only member of his/her race

    In modern American most of these seemingly benign goals are impossible already or the Woke are doing their best to make them impossible for white people. I gather that the idea is supposed to be that blacks should also have the same “nice” things that white people have, but the current thinking seems to be that if blacks can’t have these things then white people can’t either. Rather than blacks being raised up to the level of whites, whites are to be dragged down to the level of Negritude. This is generally in keeping with egalitarian movements. In places like the Soviet Union the rich and the poor ended up more or less equal because everyone (except for the Party privileged) was equally poor and miserable.

    • Agree: BB753
  82. Andy says:
    @Columbkille77

    Spices are used in the tropics to cover for spoiled food – there was really no need in Europe or in North America to use them in their cuisine as their climates are temperate to cold

    • Replies: @jimbo
    , @Jack D
    , @Anonymous
  83. I, as a non-English white person, get offended at this “bland is best” stereotype. The US would not even exist if the Europeans hadn’t been so excited to get spices.

    Also, French people are still white, last time I checked, and Serbs, Hungarians, Ukrainians and even Italians are still almost white. Those are not bland cuisines.

    And if you can’t appreciate a good leg of lamb with mint jelly and yorkshire pudding because it’s “too bland” maybe you’ve destroyed your own palate.

    • Agree: S. Anonyia
    • Replies: @Dumbo
    , @Jonathan Mason
  84. Didn’t Neal Stephenson cover this in The Diamond Age?

  85. IHTG says:

    It’s especially the line about 2.3 children that makes me think this was created by a crypto-reactionary.

  86. jimbo says:
    @Andy

    The whole “spices cover for spoiled food” is a myth. I think it started with Protestant attempts to slander the middle ages as a benighted Catholic run hellhole full of dirty peasants eating spoiled food, believeing the earth was flat…

  87. @Dumbo

    Even Barbie herself has gained a few pounds:

  88. Clyde says:
    @Kronos

    Great Sopranos scene.

    • Replies: @Midnights
  89. Clyde says:
    @Chrisnonymous

    Everyone in the cooking video of Test Kitchen was white and I think I saw 30 different people. If there was a POC I missed it. Test Kitchen is in Boston, says wikipedia.

    • Replies: @Chrisnonymous
  90. Graham says:
    @Altai

    Hell, I’m English and we had almost nothing about the British Empire in history at school, which for me was late 60s and early 70s. In fact about the only thing we did in detail was the American war of independence, which as I recall we lost. One of our history teachers was a lefty, so we got the workers’ struggle ad nauseam, and another was obsessed with detailed 19th-century political history, which involved far too much information about Peel, Disraeli and Gladstone.

  91. @Kronos

    When was the last time a white woman was “subordinate” to the white husband? …the chick was always running the show despite pronouncements of an “equal” marriage.

    This is a very American thing. The rest of the world must enjoy a hearty guffaw when they hear our feminists whine about oppression and male privilege. Derb said his father asked him, “Why does he let her talk to him like that?” They were watching Laura Petrie on The Dick Van Dyke Show.

    That looks like Carly Simon in the photo. But that sure ain’t Sweet Baby James. Is it Warren? He prob’ly thinks this comment is about him.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    , @Kronos
  92. @Warner

    By Judith Katz.

    All you need to know

    I knew it was the usual suspects when I saw the phrase “Judeo-Christian” and the blond shiksa stereotype. It also reeks of tribal envy.

    Sadly most are still ignorant as can seen by the comments directed at the proxy group.

  93. Why is the powerlifter black, and where is his other weight plate? Did someone steal it?

    What [ahem] unbalanced dumbbell illustrated this poster?

  94. @Reg Cæsar

    Not that other nationalities don’t have their tough broads, “She who must be obeyed,” as HR Haggard and Horace Rumpole put it. But they handle it differently. That’s why Somalimen spend all their time at the coffee bar once their wives have aged out of coquetry.

    • LOL: Escher
  95. @Kronos

    Nah, they’ve probably eaten gefilte fish and matzoh balls their entire lives.

  96. El Dato says:

    In this installment of “The Mystery of BLM UK’s very existence (because no negros are being killed in UKasian streets at all)”: Remove Statue!

    BLM protest statue that replaced slave trader Colston removed by Bristol council

    London artist Marc Quinn previously admitted that his statue of Black Lives Matter protester Jen Reid was “not a permanent artwork.”

    Quinn said he was inspired after seeing Reid standing on the empty plinth after protesters removed the original statue and unceremoniously dumped it in the harbor.

    His piece is named ‘A Surge of Power (Jen Reid)’, and it will now be kept at a city museum where Quinn can either collect it or donate it, according to a tweet from the council.

    It’s good that they didn’t use a noose to remove the statue of Miss Reid.

  97. Anonymous[339] • Disclaimer says:

    Yep, “white privilege” means “industrial society”. Take away the “whiteness” attributes and industrial society is impossible.

    That even means adding the concept of “race”, apparently. Without general trust, cooperation in organizations becomes impossible (as it apparently has). The organization locks up and deteriorates into internal covert struggles in which only loyalty to an in-group counts. Constructive action becomes impossible — one of several reasons that the Third World hasn’t industrialized and won’t.

    Note that the “Whiteness” theory very strongly implies that a command economy run by non-Whites is the only morally justifiable form of government. This is a clear perversion of the logic, which (strictly speaking) says that Japan, China, Nigeria, Chad, India, and Pakistan all have immoral, racist governments that must be destroyed. They must be destroyed because the statements about Whites in the US apply to these countries with only a change in race or ethnicity. The purpose of “Whiteness” is the institution of a command economy run by the Left. In the same way, the Left used to be against “war”, but in favor of “armed national liberation movements”.

    This is also a standard bit of Left intellectual akido, using some unexamined aspect of reality to take down the opposition. The POC really cannot support an industrial society (**), neither can a multi-cultural society (from the “lockup” effect mentioned above). The West has been unsuccessful in industrializing most of the planet (again, East Asian exception). The “Whiteness” theory is essentially the rest of the planet declaring the Western European descended a common enemy of all POC and demanding that the POC be put in charge of a command economy to distribute the output of an industrial society run by the European descended whites (the “Whites”).

    Note that the US Civil Rights act has, since 1965, been interpreted in accordance with the theory behind Smithsonian exhibit (See: C. Caldwell, _The Age of Entitlement_, 2020-01). The Smithsonian exhibit is not, in that sense, all that new. It is simply a long overdue explanation of existing US law. It is also a legitimization of racial theory, and I think it is one that cannot, in practice, be denied thanks to (a) HBD theory and (b) the demand of the four non-European descended races that racial theory be regarded as real. This puts the contemporary European descended in an entirely new conceptual world.

    (**) East Asian being a possible exception, but only a possible one as long term viability remains to be demonstrated

  98. Maybe the Smithsonian could play this video in their new display?

    • Replies: @Redman
  99. @anon

    More liberal indoctrination paid for with taxpayer money. America is doomed. Adopting a black culture simply means degradation and decay.

    What great African country has progress and a future beyond death and destruction?

    • Replies: @Redman
  100. Dumbo says:
    @Peter Akuleyev

    French people are still white, last time I checked, and Serbs, Hungarians, Ukrainians and even Italians are still almost white.

    LOL. In terms of culture, Italians are “whiter” than Ukrainians, Serbs, Croats and all that Eastern European half-gypsy ragtag. 😉 French, I’m not sure, there’s lots of blacks and arabs in France now, and more “assimilated” than anywhere else.

  101. @syonredux

    Playgirl was nominally marketed to women, but in reality it was a magazine for gay men. I wonder if National Geographic knows why it was so popular with teenage boys in the pre-internet days.

    • Replies: @Seamus
    , @syonredux
  102. Adamant says:
    @Altai

    If there is it’s because they actually did something like sailing all over the planet and not sit on log not inventing the wheel for 10,000 years like some folks.

    • Replies: @anon
    , @Neuday
  103. @Anon

    the number of obese black female students who rode the elevator at the same time. But elevators obey the laws of physics

    While this is annoying, it’s not a matter of violating the laws of physics. As long as the elevators are only carrying people (not cargo), you will never come close to violating the weight limit in an elevator.

    • Disagree: GoRedWings!
    • Replies: @Rob Lee
  104. Rich says:
    @For what it's worth

    We were making great steaks back in the 70s when I was a kid. Yankee pot roast? Another delicious Anglo-American dish. Shepherd’s pie, roast lamb, roast pork, all great American meals. Southern BBQ, hamburgers and hot dogs. All White, and all delicious.

  105. Anon[379] • Disclaimer says:
    @Kronos

    If Paulie and his chums hadn’t spent so much effort shaking down the local coffee vendors then they too might have turned into large successful businesses.

  106. Kronos says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    During the 1990s-2000s most of my friends parents were divorced (mostly middle-upper class.) For those that weren’t, the husbands likely feared the potential consequences of Family Court and a divorce settlement so you saw a lot of bossy women around the house. If the gal wanted a horse, she got one. (If the parents knew you for a long time they acted much more natural.)

    (And people wonder why Gen Xers and Millennials aren’t getting married and the white birth rate is plummeting…)

    • Replies: @Thea
    , @Reg Cæsar
  107. Anon[379] • Disclaimer says:
    @Gordo

    Maybe Ms Katz should have included “making lists” at the bottom of her list.

  108. @Gordo

    You mean the coloured folk didn’t even get to write this?

    You must be trippin’, dawg. Take too much time, attention to detail, and all that other cracker shit.

  109. @res

    Any similar graphics for other groups?

    That would be fun to see

  110. It seems like pages out of an elementary school textbook aimed at immigrant children. Accurate as far as it goes, kind of superficial, but maybe somewhat helpful for people like indigenous Ecuadorians who are not too familiar with white culture, but would like to know more about how to fit in when they come to the US.

    It is based more on traditional US white culture of the early 20th century than on Europe or Russia, especially when it comes to cuisine.

    No mention of the love of ball games and the invention of golf, tennis, baseball, cricket, and various types of football.

    No mention of inventing and popularising many popular musical instruments and genres of music, or of the invention of printing and the development of many popular literary forms, of the invention of photography and various forms of video and film, and of mass broadcasting, so a bit incomplete.

  111. @Jack D

    In places like the Soviet Union the rich and the poor ended up more or less equal because everyone (except for the Party privileged) was equally poor and miserable.

    Ontario has free health care and one of the ways they control costs is to ration it through long wait times. The average wait time for an MRI was getting to be about 6 weeks, IIRC, so somebody started a company where you could, you know, pay to get an MRI sooner. Ontario shut them down on the grounds that the rich should not be able to have better things sooner.

    “Rich” people now go across the border to the USA for procedures, and the former prime minister Jean Chretien had his heart surgery done at the Mayo Clinic.

    As you point out, socialism is the great leveler, but the direction is down except for the nomenklatura.

  112. @Peter Akuleyev

    I always make my own mint sauce for lamb. Take a mint tea bag, tear it open and empty the contents into a plastic vessel, add some vinegar, add some sugar, stir it up and hey presto, delicious mint sauce that brings out the flavor of the lamb. Mmmm!

  113. TTSSYF says:

    Is this even legal? I think there needs to be a class-action lawsuit brought against the Smithsonian…which, by the way, has been “woke” for decades.

  114. Cindy says:
    @Clifford Brown

    The lie is the rugged individualism. Intact families is personal responsibility AND community building. Individualism is selfishness.

  115. Brutusale says:
    @Columbkille77

    Never had a proper puttanesca or fra diavolo, huh?

  116. Brutusale says:
    @Moses

    Oh, yeah, definitely a dude.

  117. The only thing allowed in public discourse is a parody describing whites which hints here and there at our universal greatness:

  118. Guest007 says:
    @Rich

    I have never understand the black stand up comedian jokes about white people and bland food. Most blacks eat like twelve year olds and are the last demographic group that are going to be adventuresome when it comes to food. Any ethnic restaurant will have white customers but most of them have few black customers.

    • Replies: @Corn
  119. KPKCunchy says:

    Please tell me where I can get one of these in poster form.

  120. Sounds nice. I want to live in that white society. It reminds me of my early childhood. No locked doors necessary.

    • Replies: @teachem2think
  121. You could just retitle that graphic “Why White People Are Awesome!”

  122. These are not white traits, they are WEIRD traits pertaining to those with ancestors from within the Hajnal line. Whites from outside the zone differ in key areas. Thought Steve would be all over that.

  123. @Rosie

    Behind that guy was some wife complaining about how they don’t have enough money for “nice things.”

    • Replies: @Rosie
  124. El Dato says:
    @Brutusale

    Haven’t heard abou Bo Derek since before the Forever War.

    I still haven’t figured out how this poster is bad.

    Nebojsa on this: Time, work & Christianity are ‘white people’ things? US GOVERNMENT-FUNDED museum now promoting crackpot ‘anti-racism’ theories

    This is “racism masquerading as antiracism” as Rufo puts it, calling for the Trump administration to immediately ban the teaching of “toxic principles of critical race theory, race essentialism, and neo-segregationism.”

    Looks like Twitter is back up…

  125. cyborasm says:

    Katz actually seems to have come up with this list by having white people brainstorm what constitutes White Culture!

    see this PDF

    https://www.pps.net/cms/lib/OR01913224/Centricity/Domain/51/White_Culture_Judith_Katz.pdf

    in a quote she says the good stuff is actually good!

    “If our organizations are going to be fair for all so we can leverage the diversity of the workforce, we as whites must expose the positive cultural bias that organizations have for us to the light of day. We must make it visible and acknowledged and known. We must ensure that white cultural aspects are utilized when they are appropriate and add value for the benefit of all. And we also must ensure that they are not utilized when they prevent some groups from making their full added-value contribution”

  126. Seamus says:
    @ScarletNumber

    I wonder if National Geographic knows why it was so popular with teenage boys in the pre-internet days.

    I’m pretty sure they knew.

  127. Thea says:
    @For what it's worth

    Yeah I remember at my house, all friends houses in the 70s, supper was always filling but bland.Irish and English cooking are awful. But it’s a worthy trade off for all the other cultural benefits on this list.

    They’ve labeled the wrong group loud and aggressive, though.

  128. @Colin Wright

    There should be a handy-dandy set of these charts detailing all the major cultures, like one of those fold-out guides you’d take on a foreign vacation.

    Friends and I used to play a fun mental game where ethnic groups swap stereotypical traits and cultures — e.g. imagine if blacks and Germans swapped behaviors. Or blacks and Jews? Japanese and Italians? The combinations are endless!

  129. BB753 says:
    @Anon

    Also, the poster fails to convey the diversity inherent to the culture of American Whites (North/South but also East vs. West Coast, Midwest, Appalachian, et, ;Protestant/Catholic, Northern European vd Southern Euro VS. Eastern Euro), etc.
    Moreover, are Jews excluded here? Do they get their own Smithsonian poster?

  130. When do we get to see the equivalent for African-Americans? Because I’m pretty sure any attempt to quantify their cultural norms would be….(I hope you can stand the suspense!)….”RACIST“.

  131. c matt says:
    @Jmaie

    Not sure what is meant by “normalized over time.” In some sense that could be true -these are traits that worked and over time, created successful societies. As is proven by the fact net migration is from non-white to White societies, not the opposite.

  132. Alfa158 says:

    I was surprised to learn that this was compiled by a Jewish anti-racism consultant because I thought it reads like a subtle troll of the current “woke” anti-White culture.
    The only giveaway was the bit about White food being bland and boring. Obviously it isn’t given that Italian and French food is the finest in the world. Jewish cooking is bland and boring so Katz was reflecting her own home cooking memories. I mean, who the hell else but Jews boil a whole chicken?

  133. Anonymous[339] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon

    To say that blacks have to some extent internalized white, rational culture suggests that blacks have some sort of innate or persistent culture that remains underneath the false, adopted white culture, an intractable late-to-meetings culture that awaits liberation to completely resurface. Is this really the message they want to convey?

    Note that the whole Smithsonian exhibit is essentially what Steve Sailor calls “point and sputter”. No explanation of why anything is wrong, no citing general principles, just statements of fact in an accusatory tone.

    The Smithsonian exhibit looks like part of an attempted reaction to general acceptance of Human Biological Differences (HBD) by the Left. They concede that HBD exist (something that could get you fired back in AD 2000), but say that true nobility of character lies in being superior yet giving up all your gains because the “superiority” was “unearned”. Note that the Dr. DiAngelo’s video (https://youtu.be/DwIx3KQer54) tone is one of a reformed sinner confessing at church.

    They know that blowback will happen, but consider that HBD will be generally accepted and are trying to minimize the effect of this general acceptance. Specifically, preserving industrial society will force a reaction seen in this comment stream (to https://www.unz.com/isteve/the-smithsonian-explains-white-culture/#comment-4036997), which is “Damned right we’re winners. We’d hoped you would be too, but that’s toast, you say you either can’t or won’t win in industrial society and then you declare yourself enemies. We take you at your word and have no obligation to you.” Not an attractive choice, but it’s that or death.

    • Replies: @Rosie
  134. Judging by this infographic, it’s not just OK to be white; it’s downright fantastic.

    • Agree: Colin Wright
  135. Alice says:
    @Rich

    They’re called bland because they are safe and yummy to eat in a culture that doesn’t need hot spices to kill off parasites and other food-borne germs. Spicy is for a positive for cultures with a disease load too high to create thrift.

  136. Rob Lee says:
    @ScarletNumber

    I don’t know… I vacationed in Honolulu, Hawaii, once, and I can attest that when the several Samoans got in the hotel elevator with me (leaving the pool level), there was an audible *crunk* following by a VERY slow rise. I promptly got off on the next floor, not wanted to plummet to my death and lay in a smushy pile of poi, Budweiser and suntan oil.

    • LOL: Colin Wright
  137. c matt says:
    @Jack D

    I can be pretty sure of having my voice heard in a group in which I am the only member of my race.

    If those words are “Help! I am being beaten to death!” then maybe they will be heard, but not likely effective.

  138. @Alfa158

    Careful, when I recently mentioned that NY Jews are a little like Italians but with lousy food, iSteve readers surprisngly leapt to the defense of deli cuisine.

    As far as boiled chicken, I had one grandmother who was ahead of her time, a no-nonsense biz exec type who rarely cooked — except for a boiled whole chicken and veggies that was out of this world. Don’t know how she did it, much like how my mom was a boring cook but had some magic touch with brisket.

    In a somewhat endearing way, this grandmother would remind you of the Agnes Moorehead mother-in-law on Bewitched.

    • Replies: @Jack D
  139. syonredux says:
    @ScarletNumber

    I wonder if National Geographic knows why it was so popular with teenage boys in the pre-internet days.

    Particularly when it featured Polynesian girls…..

    On the other hand, I’m pretty sure that young boys were a bit disappointed when an issue focused on Black Africa….

  140. @Jack D

    Aluminum is reactive and will discolor and and alter the taste of a number of different foods. It also burns and sticks easily, making it unsuitable for many cooking applications.

    • Replies: @Jack D
  141. @jon

    Re: Following rigid time rules

    I have been at parties with groups of Africans, where they joked among each other about “Africa time,” a large part of which is simply the attitude adustment people are forced to make when they live in countries wherever what can go wrong usually does go wrong.

    Most I knew, to their credit, eventually adopted our western respect for punctuality, and those who didn’t just became garden variety ghetto rats.

  142. botazefa says:
    @black sea

    Well, you are introspective and self aware. That’s a tool that keeps on giving. Chin up!

  143. Bannon says:

    I kind of liked most of it. I wanted to have posters of them made to hang up somewhere. If anyone woke got mad, I’d point out they came from the African American Museum and were intended as a critique. Then they’d feel ashamed. And then I would polish the dust off one of the posters, casually.

  144. syonredux says:

    Alan Dershowitz has some strong opinions on the need for Jewish supremacy in Israel:

    The combined population of the West Bank and Gaza is close in number to the Jewish population of Israel.If Israel were to end its existence as the nation-state of the Jewish people—as Beinart advocates—and become a Jewish “homeland” in a single bi-national, bi-religious state, a demographic war would become inevitable, in which Jews and Muslims would compete to become a majority. As soon as a Muslim majority materialized, the Jewish “homeland” would become precisely the kind of “Bantustan” that Beinart has railed against in the context of South Africa. The Jewish minority would be ruled by the Muslim majority, even if it were given some degree of autonomy. Their protection would be largely in the hands of the Muslim majority, many of whom believe there is no place for a Jewish entity anywhere in the region.

    It was precisely this fear that led to the creation of political Zionism in the 19th century. Theodor Herzl and others experienced the antisemitism of Europe and the inability of the Jewish minority there to protect itself against pogroms and discrimination. Placing the safety of Israel’s Jewish population in the hands of a potentially hostile Muslim majority would be an invitation to possible genocide.

    https://www.algemeiner.com/2020/07/14/dershowitz-beinarts-solution-for-the-israeli-palestinian-conflict-is-an-invitation-to-possible-genocide/

    • Replies: @BB753
  145. And it’s not just The Smithsonian that is headlining “individualism” as the chief characteristic of “whiteness” that must, therefore, be abjured by whites during “diversity training” (as is being done, for example, in Seattle’s city government).

    They’re going for the jugular of what makes whites morally superior.

    My review of Kevin MaDonald’s magnum opus of his career, “Individualism and the Western Liberal Tradition: Evolutionary Origins, History, and Prospects for the Future

    What is “individualism” if not recognition that an individual possesses a so-called “natural right” to moral territory? This is reflected in the notion of “moral communities” to which MacDonald attributes a seemingly paradoxical culture of individualism coupled to group ostracism for transgressions. The resolution of this paradox is, as with all paradox, in a process. The process is one in which individuals assert their individual moral agency by assorting themselves into moral communities, frequently despite kinship bonds.

    Kevin MacDonald’s assertion of his own moral sensibility — his belief in the value of free inquiry, following the evidence to whatever theories most parsimoniously fit the data despite the moral zeitgeist — triggered an avalanche of moral ostracism. He knew this avalanche would happen but perhaps was unaware of its magnitude. This is what individual integrity demands when there are adequate protections to render the act risky but potentially heroic, rather than merely suicidal — a very difficult tightrope to walk. He enjoyed the de jure protections of academic tenure and the US Constitution’s Bill of Rights. He was no fool but he was nevertheless taking a greater risk than he may initially have guessed. The potential energy loosed in this avalanche had accumulated over many generations of powerful interests relying on falsehoods. As with all such power, its falsehoods required still more falsehoods and the accumulation of still more power to maintain their sway over the human minds subject to them. This kind of tectonic potential periodically released in catastrophe is a tragic feature of a “tradition” in which individualistic peoples remain unaware of their own natural history, hence their own strengths and their own weaknesses. The primary weakness is that they are unable to perceive at what disadvantage they are when a polity integrates diverse peoples, many if not most of which are less individualistic. It doesn’t take “genetic determinism” (whatever that means) to see that any substantial genetic contribution to individualism renders such “multiculturalism” a potentially fatal flaw for the simple reason that an individual is no match for a group.

    So the corpus of MacDonald’s work is, itself, a testament to the topic of this, his magnum opus.

    Having said that, there is work yet to be done to bring us to understand “the human operating system” of Western culture in insufficient depth and clarity to reach into the past and connect with the true strengths and weaknesses of “Western Man”. Foremost in my mind is this:

    Is there something deeper than mere coincidence of in the evolution of individualism that obtained in _both_ Western Hunter Gatherers and the “aristocratic individualism” of the steppe nomads, and not other peoples adapted to similar climates? If so, understanding this common factor may lend itself to discovering the way we might shape modern day culture to select for individualism’s strengths in peoples that share a universal, if ostensible, respect for the individual.

    My own opinion is that common factor appears in 3 evolutionary strata.

    The deepest strata was laid down over geologic time going back to the Cambrian Explosion when sexual evolution and multicellular evolution combined to yield what we now think of as the individual organism: An organism that cannot be divided without risk of death or at least loss of viability. My strong suspicion is that the Cambrian Explosion manifest in the fossil record the dual emergence of individual male intrasexual selection (single combat) and predator-prey dynamics. These 600 million years cannot be elided in the slightest without sacrificing the soundness of any theory of evolutionary psychology.

    The intermediate strata goes back a mere 6 million years to the Chimpanzees Human Last Common Ancestor (CHLCA) when the combination of the smaller primate neuron, combined with a larger body (hence larger number of neurons) and predatory behavior, to lock in gang combat — war — rather than individual combat as male intrasexual selection. The vast majority of extant evolutionary psychology regarding humans centers on this kind of selective pressure, and it does so without the slightest hint that there may be human biodiversity in this novel overlay on sexual selection.

    The most “shallow” strata was, I am convinced, laid down over a mere 40,000 years when individual men were ejected from Early European Modern Human hunting groups. These _individuals_ found themselves competing with wolf packs scavenging the abundant scraps of EEMH megafauna kills. As the megafauna became depleted, a successful “wolf man” would have coevolved with wolves to form hunting a pack over which he was the dominant alpha hunter. In the competition between hunting groups for calories, a wolf-man pack would have enjoyed a decisive advantage: As megafauna disappeared, an interspecies hunting group would not need the calories required by group of humans. Proto-dogs were smaller than humans but were highly adapted both to the local ecology and to group hunting.

    It is from this strata that I am convinced there arose a root Hunter Gatherer culture in Western Eurasia: The simple households consisting of a man, a woman, their children and hunting canids, relatively independent of other such households except for mate exchange. Nor is this mere speculation. There is even genetic support in the paper “Associations between Oxytocin Receptor Gene Polymorphisms, Empathy towards Animals and Implicit Associations towards Animals”, describing a north-west to south east gradient in a homozygous mutation corresponding to greater empathy with animals — a kind of interspecies “universalism” baked into the genotype of individualistic peoples, that matches well with concerns over biodiversity and animal welfare. There would still be “war” between these simple, post-EEMH households, but for many thousands if not tens of thousands of years it would primarily be two households fighting over over the winter calories of a hunting territory.

    And now we come to the nub, because this kind of conflict is no longer “gang warfare” in the 6M year old sense.

    INDIVIDUAL men of this line excavated the 6M years of gang warfare to unearth the unfathomable 600M year strata, the tradition the individual organism’s unity with true sexuality, including individual male intrasexual selection. It is helpful at this point to view and the individual human organism as a vast, incredibly sophisticated “civilization” of “dividual” clones, specializing from the zygote’s fusion of two gametes.

    To fathom the significance of this strata in the evolution of the West is essential to understanding the modern world.

    Indeed, in it we will discover human destiny.

    • Thanks: Ozymandias, Sam Malone
  146. cyborasm says:

    Katz actually seems to have come up with this list by having white people brainstorm what constitutes White Culture!

    I have another comment with a pdf link, but maybe this will go through

    in a quote she says the good stuff is actually good!

    “If our organizations are going to be fair for all so we can leverage the diversity of the workforce, we as whites must expose the positive cultural bias that organizations have for us to the light of day. We must make it visible and acknowledged and known. We must ensure that white cultural aspects are utilized when they are appropriate and add value for the benefit of all. And we also must ensure that they are not utilized when they prevent some groups from making their full added-value contribution”

  147. I realize the Smithsonian meant this as an object lesson in why “White culture” is bad but I see it as a perfectly good advertisement for the superiority of Western civilization.

  148. @nebulafox

    TBH, I’d like to think that if I wasn’t white, I’d be honestly insulted at the implication that valuing your family, going to church, planning for the future, accepting empiricism, and working hard are specifically “white” traits.

    Yeah, agreed. They might as well have suggested that Whites are the smart, sensible people….

    • Replies: @SunBakedSuburb
  149. c matt says:
    @Brutusale

    If all trans women looked like that, no wonder cis-women hate them.

  150. Thea says:
    @Kronos

    I keep hoping that the loneliness of lockdown life will inspire some reflective reassessments of young women living all alone or with irritating roommates.

    • Replies: @Kronos
    , @Anonymous
  151. A White man dreams – July 16, 1969.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    , @Thea
    , @Bugg
  152. Antiwar7 says:

    That graphic is somehow hilarious, perceptive, and sad. All at the same time.

    Minor humourous point: it links enginerds with Barbies.

  153. Kronos says:
    @Thea

    It has, some government officials were hoping for a miniature baby boom due to the lockdown. But they’ve got a new surge in divorces instead.

    Rollo just did a thing on the new global baby bust.

    Sailer pointed out that at least some trans children are reverting back to their biological gender, so at least that’s a plus.

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
  154. @Kronos

    “Limited Edition” Hungry Man frozen dinner. Is it a collector’s item?

  155. Jack D says:
    @Alfa158

    Americans adopted the cast iron cooking stove with an oven compartment starting in the early 19th century. Before that, home ovens were not common. It’s a big deal to heat up a brick oven. You don’t just set the knob to 350. This was usually left to professional bakers or else if people did have them in their house they would fire them up once a week to bake their bread for the week, not every day. Roasted meats were always popular among English speaking people but the normal method of roasting in colonial times was on a spit in front of an open fire (and there were all sorts of clever devices to keep the meat turning or else you had to detail a servant/slave/child to stand there the whole time).

    In other parts of the world, the home oven was never adopted or adopted only very recently. Even with the availability of gas as a cooking fuel, in some parts of the world people have a gas cooktop in their kitchen but not an oven to this day. This was especially true in China where they cut down the virgin forests centuries ago and kitchen fuel was always scarce. To the extent that people wanted to consume roasted meat they would buy it from a shop specializing in this. Go to any Chinatown and you will see roast ducks (and other roasted meats) hanging in the shop window for this reason.

    For this reason in many parts of the world (including E. Europe), roasting or grilling is not the usual method of cooking meat at home (and it’s just as well – American corn fed young animals take well to dry heat cooking but if you have a tough old bird that has been pecking around your yard, good luck roasting it). Before they came to the US, my parents had never had a grilled steak in their entire lives, partly due to economics, partly to the quality of beef that was available and mainly because grilling meat was just not a thing. And it wasn’t just Eastern Europe – all the classic German beef dishes are boiled. In France, English people are called “Les Rosbifs” because they are so associated with roast beef, a dish that is not a normal part of the French diet, just as the English call the French “frogs” for the same reason. They didn’t even have a name for roast beef and had to use the English word. The same thing is true of the grilled hamburger – in virtually all the languages of the world, the word for hamburger is some transliteration of the English word because they simply didn’t have a comparable dish in their cuisine.

    • Thanks: Charlotte
  156. @Servant of Gla'aki

    This Smithsonian thing is hilarious. It reads like part of a militia/neo-Nazi screed from the 1990s. The anti-racist cult attracts dummies and the mentally-ill.

    • Replies: @OFWHAP
  157. Rosie says:
    @Cloudbuster

    Behind that guy was some wife complaining about how they don’t have enough money for “nice things.”

    I’m not going to take this bait, other than to note that (as usual) you provide no evidence to support this claim.

    I’ll just say that I didn’t intend my post to be an attack on or even criticism of men, who often bear a heavy sense of responsibility for family support.

    What is so tragic about that song is that there really were planes to catch and bills to pay. Mr. Rosie struggles terribly with striking the right balance, always feeling he’s not doing enough.

    • Replies: @hhsiii
    , @Cloudbuster
  158. Jack D says:
    @Joe Stalin

    The name of the first movie translates as “I Aim at the Stars”. Some suggested that the movie should carry a subtitle: ” I Aim at the Stars (But Sometimes I Hit London)”.

    • Replies: @GoRedWings!
  159. Rebunga says:

    Whats with the Smithsonian sharing the recipe for our “special sauce?”

    Next up: How to make “magic dirt!”

  160. Rosie says:
    @Anonymous

    Note that the whole Smithsonian exhibit is essentially what Steve Sailor calls “point and sputter”. No explanation of why anything is wrong, no citing general principles, just statements of fact in an accusatory tone.

    In this particular case, what is wrong should be obvious, but it’s no surprise that it flies over heads here at this sausage fest, where everything masculine is celebrated as manifestly superior.

    I’ll explain: It is all yang and no yin. It is also an inaccurate portrayal of White culture. Take the “law and order” issue. Yes, we rightly value that, but we also value the rights of the accused and, in fact, have set up our justice system specifically to prevent wrongful convictions even at the expense of law and order, which they claim we value unduly to the exclusion of fairness and mercy.

  161. Dutch Boy says:
    @Thomas

    Your list of admirable qualities is significantly different than the Smithsonian’s, which is a caricature of “white” virtues. I suspect that this is a Jewish caricature of whites rather than a non-white perspective.

  162. @Stan Adams

    “Even Barbie herself has gained a few pounds”

    Nothing wrong with that. I prefer my plastic women to be on the curvy side.

  163. Jack D says:
    @Known Fact

    At the beginning of the 20th century, as part of the process of attempting to “Americanize” the recent Italian and Jewish immigrants, there was a big emphasis on trying to get them to adopt a blander, more American diet. Immigrants (even their children) ate all sorts of garlicy, oniony, smoked, salted and pickled foods – salami, pepperoni, herring, pickled vegetables (not the sweet American pickles but hot spicy ones with pickled hot peppers and garlic and spices), etc. This was thought to contribute to the excitable (not to mention smelly) nature of the immigrant population which also led them to crime and perhaps if they ate American food they would act more like Americans and at the very least they would smell less. It’s a pretty universal immigrant story to this day that the immigrant kid’s mom packs them some smelly immigrant cuisine item for lunch and that they get grief over it from their American schoolmates and thereafter they have to beg their mom to pack only odorless peanut butter and jelly sandwiches (of course nowadays peanuts are out).

    Jewish deli cuisine was really an American thing (as is spaghetti and meatballs for Italians), reflecting the relative affordability of meat in America. Having a sandwich piled high with meat was something that was largely out of reach in the Old Country. In chicken soup, the emphasis was on the soup part and there were lots of stretchers – noodles, matzoh balls, etc.

  164. Dutch Boy says:
    @Jack D

    My Dutch/Norwegian mother was fond of stewing chickens and various boiled meat dishes and we often enjoyed stewed chicken and dumplings and a concoction of boiled ham, potatoes, carrots, onions et al she called “boiled dinner.” I wonder if one can still buy a stewing chicken anywhere? In any case, my WASPy spouse abhors those dishes and loves steak and roast beef, which I can eat but prefer my roasts marinaded.

    • Replies: @Jack D
  165. @Brutusale

    I thought the same at first, but he wasn’t referring to Bo. I think it is Vendela Kirsebom (sp?), a Swedish model. However, thank you for providing the physical evidence that Ms. Derek is not a dude. I think Kathy Ireland is a dude, prove me wrong.

    • Replies: @syonredux
  166. The most important part the Smithsonian left out of this summation of white culture is… “Formula for a successful civilization.”

  167. Rosie says:
    @Jack D

    In other parts of the world, the home oven was never adopted or adopted only very recently. Even with the availability of gas as a cooking fuel, in some parts of the world people have a gas cooktop in their kitchen but not an oven to this day.

    Though an avid home cook, I am disgusted by the excesses of American kitchens.

    We all know they’re excessive, too, but we carry on because were worried about resale value. In other words, everyone wants a huge oven they only need once a year because they think everyone wants a huge oven they only need once a year. Home ovens and cooktops should be much smaller. You can roast that huge Thanksgiving turkey on a spit. There should be relatives on hand to help, else you wouldn’t need the huge turkey. still nice enough outside in November. And if it rains, cut the damned turkey n pieces, if necessary.

    Anyway, I’ve been thinking a lot about kitchens lately, and how and why trends come and go. Do they come from the grassroots, or are they imposed by marketing? I suspect it’s a little of both. Some kitchen trends are very practical. For instance, everyone wants a farm sink now. Why? Because you can see the kitchen from the living room and nobody wants to look at a bunch of dirty pots and pans, so you need a large basin to keep them in till they can be washed. Why the open floor plan became de rigueur in the first place, I have no idea. Personally, I don’t like to chit chat when I’m cooking. That’s just asking for trouble: burnt food and burnt fingers.

    I suspect the current trend towards black stainless steel is driven, at least in part, by the fact that regular stainless shows fingerprints and look dirty all the time unless less you clean it constantly.

  168. @Kronos

    During the 1990s-2000s most of my friends parents were divorced (mostly middle-upper class.)

    Oh, this goes way, way back. Divorce law had been skewed against men through most of the 20th century. However, it was still hard for women. No-fault made it much easier.

    One of the things postwar New Yorkers could still be proud of was having the severest divorce laws in the land. (No-fault didn’t arrive until 2010.) My father’s first wife had to fly to Reno and pretend to be a citizen of Nevada for a few weeks. She still got custody of my half-brother, but my dad didn’t put up a fight. She was back in New York before long.

    No-fault was pushed by the ABA. It was one of the bills Ronald Reagan later apologized for signing.

    • Replies: @Rosie
    , @Prester John
  169. Jack D says:
    @Andy

    It’s largely a matter of fashion or trends – Medieval European cooking was full of spices when they could get them, somewhat similar to modern North African cuisine. Then Catherine de Medici became the queen of France and she brought with her an Italian style of cooking that relied less on spices and the French adopted this new style. Food that still had spices in it was seen as old fashioned and people wanted to cook in the new fashion. Royals often set the fashion tone and everyone else follows.

    Conversely, the cuisines that we think of as “hot” such as Indian or Sichuan did not use chili peppers at all until they were brought to Asia from the Americas by the Portuguese. Nor did Italians have tomatoes nor did the Irish and E. Europeans have potatoes. The Romans relied heavily on a salty fermented fish sauce called garum that was similar to Vietnamese fish sauce but then it disappeared from the Western diet. Much of our diet is relatively recent and if you were to go to any part of the globe in 1500 you would probably not recognize the cuisine as being what you associate with that part of the world today.

    • Replies: @HA
  170. Rosie says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    (No-fault didn’t arrive until 2010.)

    And it passed over the objection of NOW Chapter President Marcia Pappas, who rightly called it out as betrayal of women and children.

    As she predicted, aging wives get the short end of the stick.

    https://www.nytimes.com/1985/08/05/nyregion/women-s-and-bar-groups-fault-divorce-law.html

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  171. Anonymous[186] • Disclaimer says:

    Meanwhile, Nick Cannon is “taking time off” to let the news cycle wash out his anti-semetic shit stains. Cannon’s publicists and disaster relief co-ordinators are taking over Cannon’s twitter account to fashion grammatically correct apologies, and are rumored to soon be divulging that Cannon is to become a Rabbai.

    Cannon’s critics have begun referring to him as “a goddamn Uncle Schvartze”:

    • Replies: @black sea
  172. Jack D says:
    @Rosie

    Kitchen design involves a lot of people copying each other. I don’t have a farm sink in my fairly recent kitchen remodel but I have a fairly big one that is not much smaller than the sink in the photo. I have almost that exact style of faucet and the same setup with the filter faucet and the soap pump (no dishwasher airgap required where I live). (Actually my filter faucet has hot and cold, with the hot being hooked to a 190F “Instant Hot” tank – I highly recommend this device.) My sink is directly in front of a window and I have tile laid in a “brick” type pattern. I even have a houseplant like in the photo. Maybe the big sink is to hide pots and the sink in front of a window is so you can look out, but that particular design of faucet and the brick pattern tile is purely aesthetic but still millions of people made the same aesthetic choice – this is what we call fashion or style. In a few years (maybe already) some rich people will get sick of that look (especially since less rich people can now afford it) and adopt a different fashion and then millions of less rich people will copy that too.

    • Replies: @Rosie
  173. Interestingly, this thing is supported by “The Atlantic Philanthropies.” A check of Wiki reveals TAP was founded by an Irish-American fellow named Chuck Feeney, who supposedly gave away his fortune to help others. It is not clear how much input he has in the running of the organization (he is 89 years old).

  174. Forbes says:
    @Polynikes

    Reads like the famous 1936 Dale Carnegie title: “How to win friends and influence people,” combined with the Frank Loesser musical “How to succeed in business without really trying,” based on Shepard Mead’s 1952 book of the same title.

    Self-improvement and interpersonal skill development lead to success and happiness in life. Sounds like a winning approach.

    And the Smithsonian discovers it in 2020–just a little behind the times, no?

  175. @Reg Cæsar

    Back in 1964 when my parents divorced, in NY State the only ground for divorce was “adultery”–which, not surprisingly, was liberally construed. Nevertheless they wound up getting a Mejican divorce, which was recognized in NY (I still have the papers, which are solely in Español).

  176. Thea says:
    @Joe Stalin

    Von Braun’s engineers complained about American food while under house arrest in Texas. They said the chicken was bland, dry, rubbery and overcooked.

    They may be right. Yet, it was probably better than what they would’ve received in Nuremberg.

    • Replies: @Prester John
    , @Joe Stalin
  177. Anonymous[186] • Disclaimer says:
    @Rosie

    Some kitchen trends are very practical. For instance, everyone wants a farm sink now.

    Farm sinks fell out of fashion two years ago, including, and especially subway tile backsplashes. That kitchen pictured a mish-mash of clashing styles, and very dated.

    • Replies: @Rosie
  178. Rosie says:
    @Jack D

    Maybe the big sink is to hide pots and the sink in front of a window is so you can look out, but that particular design of faucet and the brick pattern tile is purely aesthetic but still millions of people made the same aesthetic choice –

    Yes, that is true to an extent. The faucet is practical, though. A separate sprayer means another thing to clean around.

    The sink in front of the window is actually a throwback from when people had to wash dishes by hand in hot water without air conditioning. I predict this will go by the wayside as people decide it actually makes more sense to have open counter space for prep work in front of the window.

    Still, the “conspicuous consumption” phenomenon is real. Rich people are now buying high end appliances in bright colors to show off the fact that they can afford to buy a new $7,000 range when they get sick of blue or yellow or whatever. This is a particularly obnoxious display of wealth IMO, and I seriously hope it doesn’t trickle down. I’ll tell you for certain it won’t be trickling down to Rosie’s kitchen.

  179. Kylie says:
    @Clifford Brown

    My favorite scene from Goodfellas:

  180. @Clyde

    I used to watch on TV. There was some staff infighting, so I haven’t watched it for a while. I think it was originally out of Vermont or New Hampshire, but I could be wrong. The least white person I ever remember seeing on the TV show was a man named Kenji Lopez-Alt. As his name suggests, he appears to be Asian-Hispanic-White mix. His approach to cooking is 100% white though–he’s fantastic at food, and I recommend any recipe or article you see his name attached to.

  181. Forbes says:
    @For what it's worth

    “1990”? Said like it’s ancient history. Your age is showing–or should I say, lack of age.

    Julia Child started on WGBH in Boston in 1963, and ran nationally on public television for a decade.

    Farmers’ markets? Good lord. Most farms had a stand at the roadside. Many still do.

    Foodies aren’t a category, they’re a trendy fad. Cooking out of a box–bland– is on you.

    • Replies: @For what it's worth
  182. Jack D says:
    @Ozymandias

    Mainly acidic foods such as tomato sauce. Otherwise it is fine and is a very popular choice in restaurant kitchens because it is lightweight, inexpensive, durable, etc. . As far as burning and sticking, aluminum has excellent heat distribution characteristics and is less prone to burning and sticking than many other materials. It can also be anodized or coated with a non-stick coating (“Teflon”) which will also make it non-reactive. Raw aluminum pans nowadays (outside of restaurant kitchens) are fairly rare.

    That being said, I prefer tri-ply cookware such as All-Clad where the heat distributing aluminum core is sandwiched between two layers of non-reactive stainless steel. I can’t use pure aluminum anyway because I have an induction stove.

    • Replies: @Ozymandias
  183. anon[231] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jack D

    Here is a pdf of that whole concept by one Peggy McIntosh. She rolled this out back in the 1980’s. Its been her main scam teaching for 30+ years.

    http://www.nymbp.org/uploads/2/6/6/0/26609299/whiteprivilege.pdf

    Here is a pic of Peggy McIntosh. I’m sure her knapsack is exactly the same as anyone else, we can tell that by her hard life in college…

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peggy_McIntosh

    As is typical with upper class white women, her solipsism and projection has no limit. She has no idea what it is to be a working class pale person of penis, so she just projects. You won’t find this old lady feminist talking to white men living under the freeway, trying to get them to move to a more secure locations, so there’s some knapsacks she’s never peeked into, let alone tried to pick up.

    It’s just Who? Whom? again.

    • Agree: Julian of Norwich
  184. @Rosie

    We all know they’re excessive, too, but we carry on because were worried about resale value. In other words, everyone wants a huge oven they only need once a year because they think everyone wants a huge oven they only need once a year. Home ovens and cooktops should be much smaller.

    Huh? You only use your home oven once a year?

    Your husband must be an ornery chap.

  185. Mr. Anon says:
    @Kronos

    Sailer pointed out that at least some trans children are reverting back to their biological gender, so at least that’s a plus.

    Or to put it more accurately, they are no longer acting like they are insane (or, at least, as insane).

  186. @Stan Adams

    Does anyone have a doctor bearing that much heft? Nurses, yes, I have seen many a stout nurse of both genders, but a doctor looking like that in the 21st century?

    They all read those medical journals, and that has maybe put the fear into the doctors that they are all on some kind of rigid diet and spend any spare time they have on exercise machines working out like the Jennifer Beals character in Flashdance. Maybe they are all popping Adderall?

    Yes, Barbie, you can be anything, but with hips like that, you are among the ranks of nurses, not any doctors I have seen lately.

  187. hhsiii says:
    @Rosie

    Yeah, it’s a tough balance to strike.

  188. Mr. Anon says:
    @Moses

    That middle White woman pic has gotta be a trans. The man-jaw!

    “Truth” – is that you?

  189. @Jack D

    Jewish deli cuisine was really an American thing (as is spaghetti and meatballs for Italians), reflecting the relative affordability of meat in America. Having a sandwich piled high with meat was something that was largely out of reach in the Old Country. In chicken soup, the emphasis was on the soup part and there were lots of stretchers – noodles, matzoh balls, etc.

    I had heard Jewish deli food described as the kind of celebratory feasts that would be enjoyed on special occasions in Poland/Ukraine/Russia.

    The low cost availability of meats in the U.S. of course made the celebratory meal into a staple.

    You can see a similar effect on the Neapolitan and Southern Italian cuisine wrung through a few generations in the United States – for example, a “Sunday Gravy” full of beef, pork, veal and sausage which would probably be beyond the imagining of someone in Southern Italy a hundred years ago or so.

    • Replies: @Buffalo Joe
  190. Charlotte says:
    @res

    Nope. The page is titled, “Talking About Race,” but it only discusses Whiteness. One of our Congresscritters should demand equal representation of Blackness and Brownness. The latter would be interesting to see, since “brown” covers a lot of ground these days.

  191. HA says:
    @Jack D

    “…if you were to go to any part of the globe in 1500 you would probably not recognize the cuisine as being what you associate with that part of the world today.”

    No, the peasants were eating (when they were eating) foods that white yuppies would even today consider high-end, despite the conspicuous lack of potatoes, tomatoes, coffee, chocolate, and sugar.

    Items like sourdough whole-grain bread (since white bread, like sweets, was something only the rich could afford) as well as maybe some fresh-caught fish with herb sauces (e.g., sorrel, mint, dandelion, etc.) that would seem downright refined to anyone who has ever been ripped off by so-called “nouvelle” cuisine. (Lobster, in particular, was once white-trash food.)

    A medieval peasant’s staple foods were, according to one historian, “bread, beer, and bacon”, all of which survive to this day, in one form or another. I imagine there was a lot of perpetual stew as well, stocked with whatever was available, though one had to be careful about what exactly was tossed in, since the penalty for poaching back in medieval England was death by disembowelment. But to the extent there was a river with some fish or eels nearby, or the hen had stopped laying and needed to be “retired”, all that would likely pass legal muster.

    • Replies: @Jack D
  192. @Alfa158

    The only giveaway was the bit about White food being bland and boring. Obviously it isn’t given that Italian and French food is the finest in the world. Jewish cooking is bland and boring so Katz was reflecting her own home cooking memories. I mean, who the hell else but Jews boil a whole chicken?

    Remember as it was explained before: mustard is Jewish, mayonnaise* is Goyische.

    I assume that you’re referring to Ashkenazi Jewish cuisine originating from Eastern Europe. As a practical matter, people from these regions were historically rather impoverished and the climates aren’t really great for growing things which might be described as giving zip to food (like, say, chili peppers). Given the poverty, you wouldn’t expect that foreign spices would be acquired and incorporated into the local cuisines either.

    However, allow me to say that the “Jewish” cuisine which has developed in the Levant from the migration of Mizrahi Jews to Israel is actually quite good. It’s a mixed variation on Middle Eastern cuisine. Also, there is some interesting fusions with the better aspects of Ashkenazi cuisine – as, for example, where the Israeli style falafel sandwich is garnished with various pickles/pickled vegetables.

    *Mayonnaise is named for the town Mahon in Spain, which is essentially the now uber popular (and not considered “bland”) aioli.

  193. The nyt and now the smithsonian denigrate what they call White culture but what in truth in Western Culture. Western Culture is the basis for a lot of what is or used to be taught and studied in the better institutions of higher learning. Soon we will hear fat is better than lean, dishonest is better than honesty. But what grates me the most is the dismissal of “White” food as bland. The Board of Directors of both the smithsonian and the nyt probably have Italian cuisine catered in to their meetings 100 times before some one suggests Somalian.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  194. anon[231] • Disclaimer says:
    @Adamant

    sailing all over the planet and not sit on log not inventing the wheel for 10,000 years like some folks.

    Not to get all Jared Diamond, but the environment people live in affects their behavior and that selects for behaviors – which are in part genetic.

    I read a book about the 1943 – 45 resistance vs. the Imperial Japanese a few years back. It was full of vignettes about Europeans who had avoided capture. Some joined the guerrillas and some did not. One man had seen the Japanese invade Mindanao in force and he took off into the jungle as far as he could go. He wound up in a village in the hills where hardly anybody have ever seen a Euro. They tolerated him, he learned to do a few things for them.

    One day he decided to invent the wheel. It took him weeks to cut the log he wanted, shape it, cut a hole, make an axle out of wood. Then he was done, ready to give his gift to the tribe. Problem is, in the jungle there are no roads and clearings only exist for a while after a fire. The children of the tribe would play with it, rolling it across the cleared area, but that was it. The adults didn’t see any use for it. So much for the noble White Man’s burden of uplift.

    Wheels work on the plains, in big river valleys and so forth.That is why chariots were invented in places like Mesopotamia, the Levant, China, the steppe, etc. and not the jungles of South East Asia.

    • Replies: @Buffalo Joe
  195. Art Deco says:
    @Kronos

    My recollection of the era (50 years ago) was that families tended to be quite mother-centered, but that fathers had prerogatives which mothers did not contest: (1) discretion over punishing sons (and sometimes daughters) and (2) plenary discretion over free time. My father told my mother what he’d be doing that evening or that week-end, and that was the end of the discussion. And his household chores were the ones he elected to do.

  196. Charlotte says:
    @Jack D

    “ I can be pretty sure of having my voice heard in a group in which I am the only member of my race.”

    LOL.

  197. @Talmud Scholar

    Jewdith Katz
    Every. Single. Time.

    FIFY

  198. @Jack D

    Call me a traditionalist, I prefer copper bottomed stainless steel. And never waste your money on one of those oval shaped porcelain enameled cast iron dutch ovens as shown in your poached chicken illustration. They’re perfectly sized for a chicken but they expand and contract unevenly. I bought half a dozen of them on clearance and within a year all of them had cracked.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    , @botazefa
  199. @Rosie

    And it passed over the objection of NOW Chapter President Marcia Pappas, who rightly called it out as betrayal of women and children.

    And Phyllis Schlafly, too, no friend of NOW.

    What no-fault did was not advantage one sex over the other, but the irresponsible spouse over the responsible. Women still file the great majority of divorce papers.

    TED has a(n unsurprising, considering their demographic) plethora of talks on divorce. If you can get past the mild psychobabble, this one offers some wisdom:

    It’s also rare to see women as the white knights for a change:

    • Replies: @Rosie
  200. Anonymous[289] • Disclaimer says:

    Setting aside all the profound differences among the various white subcultures — as different as our eye and hair colors and skin tones — regarding extroversion, I’ve always thought that a profound introversion and melancholia, tied in some way to our love of our past, of our native soil, of our homelands, is very characteristically white, perhaps more northern white than Mediterranean, but even so….
    Also a love of the sea, of storms, of fog and forest, of nature, of animals, of grand vistas, mountain fastnesses, remote wilderness…
    And a love of daring, of adventure, of challenge — “to strive, to seek, to find and not to yield” — in the words of Tennyson.
    Lesser breeds may try to belittle our ways, but we know…we know….

    • Thanks: Buffalo Joe
  201. Rosie says:
    @Rosie

    And while I’m at it, the WSJ can KMA. I am NOT going back to digging through cabinets for my pots and pans. Besides, I like to be able to see them. (Like you men with your tool pegboards.) In my house, every cooking lesson begins with this question: “Why did I choose this pot/pan?”

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/are-kitchen-pot-racks-best-left-hanging-in-the-1980s-11589558749

    • Agree: botazefa
  202. Rosie says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    And Phyllis Schlafly, too, no friend of NOW.

    Yes, but Mrs. Schlaffly has always been sensible on the issue. Organized feminism, not so much.

    What no-fault did was not advantage one sex over the other, but the irresponsible spouse over the responsible.

    Quite.

    Women still file the great majority of divorce papers.

    As I have said before, I don’t think this is a good measure of fault in a divorce. An innocent spouse may feel compelled to file to prevent an errant spouse from wasting marital resources on a mistress or drug habit or whatever.

    In any event, we agree on the solution, and that is all that really matters.

    • Replies: @Art Deco
  203. Tim says:

    African- Americans NEED white people. Their entire identity is based on how their are in relation to white people.

    When a black guy writes a book, the whole book is about he and his blackness and how it relates to us.

    It’s pathetic.

    • Replies: @Joe Stalin
  204. Art Deco says:
    @Rosie

    I don’t think this is a good measure of fault in a divorce.

    Cue Mandy Rice-Davies.

  205. @Buffalo Joe

    The Board of Directors of both the smithsonian and the nyt probably have Italian cuisine catered in to their meetings 100 times before some one suggests Somalian.

    Somali cuisine isn’t bad, just repetitive. An Eritrean I worked with denigrated it as “rice, goat, and bananas”. I like all of those, so as tough as life might be in Puntland, I wouldn’t starve. They eat chicken, too, but big deal. So does everybody else.

    Eritreans shouldn’t talk. They have the same eat-the-plate injera dish as Ethiopians. That’s exotic enough to attract foodies, but it’s really not that exciting. The Christians among them serve beer and wine, though, so they have that advantage over the Somalis.

    I was treated to dinneer by a grad student and his wife from Mali. They were so proud of her stew. It was indeed very good, but I could detect no significant difference from the American kind. That doesn’t help in the restaurant business.

    • Replies: @Buffalo Joe
  206. This is a simplified version:

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/african-american-history-museum-publishes-194630602.html

    African American History Museum Publishes Graphic Linking ‘Rational Linear Thinking,’ ‘Nuclear Family’ to White Culture

    The National Museum of African American History and Culture has published a graphic on its website that suggests concepts such as “rational linear thinking,” the “nuclear family,” and an emphasis on “hard work” are specific to “white culture.”
    ……………..

  207. @Alec Leamas (hard at work)

    Alec, my parents went to the market with little Buffalo Joe in tow to buy live chickens. Everything went in the soup except the head and feathers. Still remember the chicken feet in the pot. My mother’s sauce recipe was her mother’s, so lard rendered down then braise pork and beef and home canned tomato sauce and paste. Sausage and chicken were for a “caccitore” style sauce. Pasta and beans and polenta when the budget was tight. Homemade red wine and cellar aged cheese.

  208. Richard B says:

    Obviously, this is intended with hostility

    I thought it was intended as self-parody.

    Certainly read like it.

    Then again, in an age of absurdities it gets hard to tell the difference between parody and reality.

    But, it’s not just intended with hostility.

    It’s expected to be automatically believed.

    Presumably, as opposed to reflective thought, which, obviously, would be “White.”

    Good luck running the social institutions of a civilization more complex and unpredictable than ever before without any refelctive thought.

  209. Jack D says:
    @Ozymandias

    I bought half a dozen of them on clearance and within a year all of them had cracked.

    Maybe there’s a reason they were on clearance. A Le Creuset is a big expense but it’s a lifetime purchase at least if you don’t abuse the hell out of it. “Read and follow label directions.”

    The only copper bottomed steel that I know is Revereware. It was OK for its time but its time was like 50 years ago. There is much better stuff out there now (All-Clad). The copper bottom on Revereware is pretty thin. If they had really used a nice thick slab of copper down there it would have been good stuff but they never did because copper is expensive.

    • Replies: @Ozymandias
  210. @anon

    TwoTreeOne, wheels mill grain, nuts and olives. Beats smashing something against a flat rock with the end of a log.

    • Replies: @anon
  211. @Reg Cæsar

    Reg, our leftovers, such as an eggplant parm sandwich on fresh Italian bread is still better than most of those cuisines. My opinion, of course.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  212. cityview says:
    @Jack D

    I agree with you that this list, which I recognized as the 1988 work by Peggy McIntosh (who I don’t remember at all from the 1980s, and I’ve read lots of older feminist writing; Judith Katz I don’t know at all) is worse. I think this list was very dated even by 1988. The writer appears to be rich, quite elderly, and immensely privileged.

    To take one example: she can go shopping without being bothered. Where did she live and shop when she wrote this? Did she even do her own shopping? Did she ever walk anywhere or take public transit to get to the stores? Has she ever been in a store since then? Is she aware of security cameras? Those of us in the big cities have been used to empty, cavernous stores for years, decades; no one is anonymous in them. Because stores are almost empty, any customer is scrutinized, whether the customer wants it or not, and is often pressured to buy. Yes, even in the big-box chain stores that were not supposed to be like little independent shops.

  213. Neuday says:
    @kaganovitch

    Extroversion is White? In Smithsonian/bizarro world Black culture is introverted?

    It’s not that extroversion is White, per se. Rather, it’s that 4-syllable words describing a personality characteristic is White, gnomesain?

  214. Charlotte says:
    @Rosie

    I like color. My kitchen still has teal Formica countertops from its last reno sixty years ago. The matching appliances are nearly gone, but if I ever get rich, I’m going to buy teal appliances in the right period style.

    • Replies: @Rosie
  215. Jack D says:
    @Rosie

    Colored appliances have been around forever. In the ’50s it was turquoise green and pink. They are tough to match later on because the colors go out of style and you can’t get them anymore (no problem if you are willing to replace your whole kitchen when 1 appliance breaks). My mother in law has a brown wall oven, a cream colored fridge and a black dishwasher for this reason. Not a good look. Stainless is easy to match later but not really a good material – it shows fingerprints and scratches. Originally it was a premium material for high end appliances (1980s Viking ranges) but now that everyone and his brother has stainless appliances, it’s time for rich people to find something else or else how can they status signal?

  216. @Rich

    Southern BBQ is the best example of good white Southern food you can come up with? Please? What about shrimp or crawfish etoufee, or a Po’boy?

    • Replies: @Rich
  217. botazefa says:
    @Ozymandias

    The le crueset enameled cast iron is fantastic. Expensive, but they are running 20% off now. If anything happens to it they will replace it for free.

    • Replies: @Rosie
  218. cityview says:
    @notsaying

    I know; I am incredulous too. The Smithsonian people weren’t even required to write new content of their own? Using copyrighted material from 1988 and 1990 is okay?

    • Agree: notsaying
  219. Jack D says:
    @HA

    Some of the things that they ate were the same but the frequency and quantity would have been quite different. For example, the average peasant family all over Europe ate exactly 1 pig per year. You would raise that pig all year and feed it table scraps etc. and when the weather turned cold somewhere around Christmas you would slaughter it. The stuff that was highly perishable (e.g. the blood, the organs) you would cook right away and “pig out” on it for a few festive days (and being winter you could put some of the meat on ice) but as much as possible you would try to smoke or salt it or dry it and make ham, sausage, bacon, etc. so you could stretch that pig for a full year. Then when it was time for dinner, you would cut off a little bit of bacon or ham or jowl and use it to flavor a big pot of cabbage soup or something which you would then eat with a whole lot of bread. So while they weren’t vegetarians, they weren’t eating big slabs of meat either.

    Some foods that we value today people did not esteem highly in the past and sometimes they did not eat them at all (unless maybe they were starving). My father said the ponds where he would fish for carp were absolutely crawling with crawfish but that no one considered them to be food. Jews couldn’t eat them because they weren’t kosher but the Catholics had no interest in eating them either – they were just bugs to them and not something that you ate any more than you would eat grasshoppers (which BTW are perfectly edible). Maybe a few rich people knew that crayfish were edible but it did not cross the mind of the local peasants to eat them.

    • Replies: @Art Deco
    , @HA
  220. Neuday says:
    @Dumbo

    These pictures are false because not all white women are pretty “Barbies” like those. In fact, it’s a tiny minority. Most white women, especially today, are fat, tattooed or just average looking.

    You gotta get out of the cities. There are plenty of attractive young women around. Rural and Small Town America still exists, and the people aren’t nearly as dysfunctional as what’s in the cities.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @anon
  221. Art Deco says:
    @Jack D

    IIRC, potatoes were only accepted in central Europe when people turned to them in desperation during a famine in the late 18th century.

  222. @Rosie

    you provide no evidence to support this claim

    Evidence that a fictional song character has a demanding wife? Rosie, you’re always a treat. Let me introduce you to the concept of “a joke.”

    • Replies: @Rosie
  223. @Kronos

    “The wogs start at Calais”

  224. gfhändel says:
    @Jack D

    The German concept of Grill-Party has always baffled me, an Australian, until your explanation just now. Thanks.

  225. @Thea

    On the other hand, they wouldn’t have been in Nuremberg very long.

  226. Neuday says:
    @Adamant

    If there is it’s because they actually did something like sailing all over the planet and not sit on log not inventing the wheel for 10,000 years like some folks.

    You can’t eat, screw, or get high from a wheel.

    • Replies: @Ron Mexico
  227. Redman says:
    @America1st

    Can this guy please move to Scarsdale and run for Congress in my district? He’s got my vote.

  228. Dan Smith says:

    The chart has been removed

    • Replies: @Anon7
  229. Neuday says:
    @nebulafox

    TBH, I’d like to think that if I wasn’t white, I’d be honestly insulted at the implication that valuing your family, going to church, planning for the future, accepting empiricism, and working hard are specifically “white” traits.

    I find it interesting that the Jewess didn’t include the White characteristics of altruism, broad support of giving charity but being ashamed of receiving it.

  230. @Clifford Brown

    The principal lie resides in the crude stereotype of white culture that is devoid of nuance and utterly fails to capture its complexity.

  231. @Buffalo Joe

    Beef on weck isn’t Italian, and Buffalo wings only marginally so. I don’t know about spiedies or garbage plates in other upstate cities.

  232. I have now read the list carefully twice, and so I am left in no doubt that one of the most important characteristics of white domination, at least here in the city of New York, has been omitted. By this I mean that there is no heading titled Alternate Side Parking with one bulleted item subtended: Suspended on all 147 Jewish holidays.

  233. @Talmud Scholar

    Judith Katz has simply authored this largely correct and factual 1990 seminar presentation, named “Some Aspects and Assumptions of White Culture in the United States”:

    http://www.cascadia.edu/discover/about/diversity/documents/Some%20Aspects%20and%20Assumptions%20of%20White%20Culture%20in%20the%20United%20States.pdf

    The infografic Steve embedded in his post above is based on that 30-year-old presentation, and is actually very informative and completely inoffensive, taken by itself.

    Whatever framing the Smithsonian made of it in the wider article, it would be ungenerous and plainly incorrect to pin the blame on Katz, 30 years after she created that nice slide.

  234. @Forbes

    “Cooking out of a box–bland– is on you.”

    It’s not “on me.” It’s on millions of American women who cooked like that.

    I seriously doubt that “most farms” had a roadside stand. Please.

    • Replies: @Svigor
  235. @Rich

    You’re seriously boasting about hot dogs? Why not bologna and Spam, while we’re at it?

    • Replies: @black sea
  236. Jack D says:
    @Dutch Boy

    Near where I live there is a Korean market (H-Mart – they are located in a number of states) that regularly stocks spent laying hens. These are small Leghorn fowl that are a year or two old and are what would have been called stewing hens back in the day. They are very good for soup although there is not that much meat. Most of them go into canned soup – mm mm good! At H-Mart they are sold under the charming name of “old chicken”. Maybe “old chicken” sounds better in Korean.

    • Replies: @Bernard
  237. Rich says:
    @S. Anonyia

    Keep going, I was just going off the stuff we ate at my house in NYC back in the 70s. I’m sure you guys had a lot more going on down in Dixie.

  238. Bugg says:
    @Joe Stalin

    Hollywood told us black ladies doing long division with pencils and paper got us to the moon, not some German rocket scientist.

  239. Kaz says:

    I don’t see that image in the link? Can someone point me to it specifically if I’m glazing over it? Would be nice to have the image in all of it’s officiality instead of a rehosted one.

  240. @syonredux

    Yeah, not detecting a package south of the border.

  241. @Neuday

    “You can’t eat, screw, or get high from a wheel.” My experiences at drive-ins say otherwise

  242. @Tim

    I always find it interesting that in almost any Hollywood movie aimed at a Black audience (mostly Black cast), there’s a reference to their “Blackness” at some point.

  243. @Jack D

    Maybe there’s a reason they were on clearance.

    Yeah, the oval design is faulty. I have several dozen of the same product in the round design that have been through years of extensive use with no problems. Other than that they’re heavy.
    The copper is Mauviel, I only use them at home. Had them for decades. Nonstick cookware has no place in my kitchen. It emits toxic fumes when overheated and does not form a fond for deglazing. I will not live without sauce, sir.

    • Thanks: hhsiii
  244. anon[292] • Disclaimer says:
    @Buffalo Joe

    TwoTreeOne, wheels mill grain, nuts and olives.

    Apparently there isn’t any grain nor olives in the jungles of the ‘Pines. Go figure. Nuts, I dunno.

    Beats smashing something against a flat rock with the end of a log.

    You’d have to take that up with the hill people of Mindanao circa 1944. Given what I’ve heard from missionaries who went into way up country Luzon in the 90’s, don’t expect much. For example, in the village where they spent a few years, their house-on-stilts was the only one with a door. Or walls. Because why bother, and who cares what anyone else can see or hear? Food literally grows on trees, too…

    Dude, environment shapes humans via reproductive success. Humans can then shape their environment, further modifying humans. That’s what the Hajnal line is all about. Our great-great grandfathers understood this. We can, too.

    PS: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/6033964-the-10-000-year-explosion

  245. Anonymous[225] • Disclaimer says:
    @Neuday

    Lol, what are you smoking?

    The white girls are thin and smoking hot in the big city.

    The fat tatted white girls are in the small towns, on opioids.

    • Replies: @Neuday
  246. Anonymous[225] • Disclaimer says:
    @Thea

    Nope.

    Women don’t self reflect; they are incapable of it. They double down. It’s traditionally the man’s job to straighten out the woman when she is going on the wrong path.

    So expect to see even more SSRI use, more boxed wine, and more cat ladies.

    Do you even redpill, bro?

    • Troll: Rosie
  247. Rosie says:
    @Charlotte

    I like color. My kitchen still has teal Formica countertops from its last reno sixty years ago. The matching appliances are nearly gone, but if I ever get rich, I’m going to buy teal appliances in the right period style.

    Oh, don’t get me wrong. I love that kitchen! Its just that it would be so much more practical to incorporate that gorgeous hot coral into something more easily changeable, like a custom, solid wood island that can be painted. (And I agree with you about countertops, too. Corian adds lots of color without spending a fortune.)

  248. Rosie says:
    @Cloudbuster

    Evidence that a fictional song character has a demanding wife? Rosie, you’re always a treat. Let me introduce you to the concept of “a joke.”

    Perhaps you might consider using an emoji next time.

    Anyway, I assumed your comment about the song was meant as a more general insult of women, which certainly wouldn’t be out of the ordinary around here.

  249. Keypusher says:
    @black sea

    You wrote one of the greatest comments I’ve ever seen on Sailer in response to a similar list put out by the NY head of schools. Something along the lines of being able to point to future time orientation, etc. as your flaws in a job interview.

  250. Bernard says:
    @Jack D

    Jack, you are truly a man for all seasons, a human encyclopedia. I’d love to meet you one day.

  251. Anon[164] • Disclaimer says:
    @kaganovitch

    Extroversion = the ability to convey thought in complete sentences. Spoken or written.

    Those who manage to squeeze through reading and ‘riting don’t need to express themselves through body art.

  252. Anon[164] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jenner Ickham Errican

    Ooh but they’re savvy, I just checked Sailer’s link:

    “ Since yesterday, certain content in the “Talking About Race” portal has been the subject of questions that we have taken seriously. We have listened to public sentiment and have removed a chart that does not contribute to the productive discussion we had intended. ”

    Can someone post a screenshot with the authoress’ name in it?

    • Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican
  253. Neuday says:
    @Anonymous

    The white girls are thin and smoking hot in the big city.

    The fat tatted white girls are in the small towns, on opioids.

    You must live in a different part of America. There might be thin, smoking hot girls in whatever big city you’re referring to, but they aren’t often wife/mother material.

  254. Rosie says:
    @botazefa

    The le crueset enameled cast iron is fantastic. Expensive, but they are running 20% off now.

    I have a couple of their fry pans, which I love, but I prefer stainless for dutch ovens. The enameled cast iron ones are just too heavy.

    • Agree: botazefa
  255. Rosie says:
    @Anonymous

    Farm sinks fell out of fashion two years ago, including, and especially subway tile backsplashes.

    Yes, I knew about the subway tile, but the farm sink thing is news to me. I’ll be getting one at any rate, fashionable or not. I’m tired of not being able to wash big pots and pans, let alone a sheet pan, in the sink without splashing water all over the place.

  256. @Jack D

    and there were all sorts of clever devices to keep the meat turning or else you had to detail a servant/slave/child to stand there the whole time).

    There was actually a dog bred for just this role https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turnspit_dog.
    The morphological plasticity of dogs is pretty remarkable.

  257. Rosie says:

    Huh? You only use your home oven once a year?

    Groans. I have more than one oven. The big one I only use occasionally but more than once a year. I could get by with just the little one.

  258. HA says:
    @Jack D

    “Some of the things that they ate were the same but the frequency and quantity would have been quite different.”

    It’s true that they tended to eat things in season (and locally sourced from small farms, etc.), but again, as every follower of high-end annoyingly trendy cuisine knows, that, too, has come back into fashion, so it’s hardly unrecognizable.

    And it’s true that early springtime, when the previous St. Martin’s day (or whatever other holiday came to be associated with hog-slaughtering-time) was a distant memory, could be a dreary and doleful affair, eventually, they decided to lean into that and make it a feature-not-a-bug — indeed, until just a few generations ago, the annual Lenten fast was a time for outright veganism. Not only was meat disallowed, but the extra-credit-faithful also avoided butter (or lard, which in Eastern Europe is still the thing one slathers on bread) and other dairy, eggs and fish along with any other animal products. But that kind of periodic abstinence, seasonal or otherwise, has also since become a marker of high-end consumers who are otherwise proud of their hatred of Christianity/Catholicism, especially the medieval variety, and who cling to their MontyPython “Black Legend” historical prejudices.

    All this to say, while there has definitely been a revolution in cooking since the days of Columbus and Magellan, it is incorrect to claim that the cuisine of pre-Columbian Europe would be unrecognizable. Indeed, though famine and want and the proverbial wolf-at-the-door were far more worrisome and disruptive than novel coronaviruses are today (though back then they certainly had their own extra-large pandemics to deal with), that cuisine would not be regarded as unpalatable. In fact, a dish of cooked salmon, sourdough whole-grain bread, cider from heritage variety apples, garden-fresh peas seasoned with herbs, along with the occasional bit of seasonal bacon (again, from heritage breeds) would not only be familiar to refined modern tastes, it would be regarded as a costly delicacy (and a New Age resort or fat-farm that featured several weeks of “detoxifying” veganism and periodic fasting would likewise cost an arm and a leg.)

  259. Midnights says:
    @Clyde

    The best part is Paulie Walnuts tucking stuff in his jacket.

    • Replies: @Clyde
  260. @Redneck farmer

    Agree. That infographic — even its its slightly stale visual style — could be an recruitment ad for the Vickies.

  261. @Rosie

    Still, the “conspicuous consumption” phenomenon is real. Rich people are now buying high end appliances in bright colors to show off the fact that they can afford to buy a new $7,000 range when they get sick of blue or yellow or whatever. This is a particularly obnoxious display of wealth IMO, and I seriously hope it doesn’t trickle down. I’ll tell you for certain it won’t be trickling down to Rosie’s kitchen.

    My my, Rosie. You’re coming across as rather envious/covetous. I’m guessing you have hundreds of bookmarks of “real estate porn” YouTube walk-throughs. 🙂

    • LOL: Rosie
    • Replies: @Rosie
  262. @Anon

    The Smithsonian page cited, under the graphic:

    Judith H. Katz ⓒ1990. The Kaleel Jamison Consulting Group, Inc. All Rights Reserved

    … and linked to an almost verbatim PDF chart (no illustrations) on the Cascadia (Community) College site, on the “Diversity” page:

    http://www.cascadia.edu/discover/about/diversity/documents/Some%20Aspects%20and%20Assumptions%20of%20White%20Culture%20in%20the%20United%20States.pdf

    The Cascadia PDF is titled and subheaded:

    Some Aspects and Assumptions of White Culture in the United States

    While different individuals might not practice or accept all of these traits, they are common characteristics of most U.S. White people most of the time.

    … and has the same credits as cited above.

    • Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican
  263. @Graham

    I’ve got an English colleague with whom I discuss matters educational. She came up through the comprehensive system. She’s an intelligent woman with a good degree from a very reputable UK university, but I’m regularly astonished by her ignorance of English history.

    She’s from East Anglia, so she says the only historical content she ever encountered in schools was: 1) Vikings and their longboats; and 2) the Industrial Revolution (much as you describe your own experience).

    • Replies: @anon
    , @Anonymous
    , @BB753
  264. @Jenner Ickham Errican

    Smithsonian chart screenshots with credits:

  265. black sea says:
    @Anonymous

    That’s some A-level grovelling. Maybe they have some dirt on him above and beyond his antisemitic musings.

    • Agree: sayless
  266. @Warner

    Judith H. Katz: “Fueled by her passion for addressing systemic barriers, known for her boundless energy and sharp analytical mind, Judith Katz has distinguished herself as a thought leader, practitioner, educator, and strategist for more than 40 years. She has created new paradigms in organization development and pioneered cutting-edge approaches to white awareness, inclusion, the leveraging of differences, covert processes, and strategic change … Her landmark book, White Awareness: Handbook for Anti-Racism Training (1978),was the first systematic training program to address racism from a white perspective … She was named a Pioneer of Diversity by Profiles in Diversity Journal in 2007 and a Legend of Diversity by the International Society of Diversity and Inclusion Professionals in 2012.”

  267. black sea says:
    @For what it's worth

    America has great hot dogs as compared to what’s available under that name in many other countries. I live abroad, and there’s nothing here even remotely as good as a low-fat, Oscar Meyer wiener. Most hot dogs here resemble bright pink crayons, and don’t taste much better.

  268. black sea says:
    @Stan Adams

    This, obviously, is the post-marital Barbie.

  269. @Stan Adams

    Looks like a normal woman in flyover country.

  270. Rosie says:
    @Jenner Ickham Errican

    I am obsessed with tiny houses. Mr. Rosie’s gonna build me one, though he doesn’t know that yet.

  271. @Alfa158

    who the hell else but Jews boil a whole chicken?

    I think all poultry-farming Europeans do that. Seen it done in Poland, Germany, and France. Granted, chicken soup is no ‘soul food’ and rather bland, but you can add herbs, spices, or copious amounts of MAGGI and it doesn’t cause obesity.

  272. duncsbaby says:
    @syonredux

    This is what she looks like more recently: (like Stacy’s mom – she’s still got it going on).

  273. @Jack D

    Some suggested that the movie should carry a subtitle: ” I Aim at the Stars (But Sometimes I Hit London)”.

    “Ich greife nach den Sternen” means ‘I reach for the stars’ and you probably knew that, but then your ‘joke’ (“some suggested” lol) wouldn’t work, would it? I’m all for explaining the world to Americans, as seems to be your gig here, but let’s give them the straight story.

    • Replies: @Jack D
  274. OFWHAP says:
    @SunBakedSuburb

    Racists and anti-racists alike loved Blazing Saddles and The Chappelle Show.

  275. Corn says:
    @Guest007

    I think it depends on the ethnicity of the food. While I saw few blacks at local Mexican restaurants pre-corona, they seemed quite fond of the Chinese buffet.

  276. @Old and Grumpy

    Ah yes, “the good old days.” They were nice; very, very nice. Certainly not like what the community organizers, commie academics, neoStalinist media, public educators, paedophiles, felons, and neocoenservative RINOs have promulgated in the here and now.

    Is that you Oldn Grump? If it is, Boris B. greets you. If not, we still agree with you. Cheers!

  277. anon[776] • Disclaimer says:
    @Neuday

    Kyiv is full of beautiful, pretty, lovely, fine and gracious women. The few, but ever increasing, black
    women stand out like water buffaloes in a flock of gazelles.

  278. Jack D says:
    @GoRedWings!

    I agree with you that greife (I assume same root as English grip) translates better as reach or grasp but the movie was marketed in English under that title – this was the exhibitor’s translation, not mine:

  279. Anonymous[323] • Disclaimer says:
    @Andy

    No, spices prevent food from spoiling. It’s an important difference. People who eat spoiled food die.

    They don’t just protect food either. A simple and effective bedbug repellent is to cover your bedsheets with ground pepper before going to bed. The bugs hate it and won’t bother you.

  280. Anonymous[323] • Disclaimer says:
    @The Last Real Calvinist

    British kids don’t have to study history past age 16 if they don’t want to. Most drop it, especially the ones headed for STEM.

  281. @Rich

    Steak and potatoes; “bland is best”

    This is not general European culture, but specifically the traditional British diet of 100 years ago. It was held in contempt even then by countries such as France that had a richer culinary tradition.

    Nowadays, Italian, Chinese, Mexican and Indian food are so popular in “white culture” that the poster’s description is no longer true.

  282. NOTA says:
    @Anon

    What a toxic message. I wonder how many black kids they’ll convince that logic and science are white things.

  283. BB753 says:
    @syonredux

    Man, why can’t Jews get no love?

  284. BB753 says:
    @The Last Real Calvinist

    Teaching history is “fascist”, because it makes people aware of who they are and where they come from and how the world used to be until it was saved from bigotry and oppression and ignorance by progressives. You can’t have that!

  285. Clyde says:
    @Midnights

    Right! Here is a better version of this scene.

  286. Tracy says:

    From the other side:

  287. Svigor says:
    @For what it's worth

    Yeah but he had a point; nobody was forcing your mom to be lazy and cook shitty unseasoned food out of a box.

  288. Svigor says:
    @Jack D

    what white privilege looks like in day to day living:

    I can if I wish arrange to be in the company of people of my race most of the time.

    So sub-Saharan Africa is the land of black privilege, Israel is the land of jevvish privilege, etc. Got it. The distinction is, we’re supposed to give our stuff to blacks and jevvs, reason unknown.

    I can avoid spending time with people whom I was trained to mistrust and who have learned to mistrust my kind or me.

    I really don’t know WTF this is supposed to mean.

    If I should need to move, I can be pretty sure of renting or purchasing housing in an area which I can afford and in which I would want to live.

    No, this is called working for a living, not Whiteness.

    I can be pretty sure that my neighbors in such a location will be neutral or pleasant to me.

    I.e., Whites are neutral or pleasant. Sure, I’ll buy that.

    I can go shopping alone most of the time, pretty well assured that I will not be followed or harassed

    I.e., away from non-whites. No, this is long gone; too many non-Whites now.

    I can turn on the television or open to the front page of the paper and see people of my race widely represented.

    Sort of like Indians in India, Pakis in Pakistan, Japs in Japan, Chinese in China, jevvs in Israel, blacks in sub-Saharan Africa, etc. In fact, the real distinction seems to be, again, that Whites alone must give up this “privilege.”

    When I am told about our national heritage or about “civilization,” I am shown that people of my color made it what it is.

    Where’s the lie tho?

    I can be sure that my children will be given curricular materials that testify to the existence of their race.

    No, that’s black/jevvish/non-white privilege. This is the article on White privilege. You’ve got your wires crossed; whites are told they don’t exist.

    If I want to, I can be pretty sure of finding a publisher for this piece on white privilege.

    No; now you’re describing jevvish privilege.

    I can be pretty sure of having my voice heard in a group in which I am the only member of my race.

    Wrong again. The fifties called, they said they want their demographics back.

    I can be casual about whether or not to listen to another person’s voice in a group in which s/he is the only member of his/her race

    I’m casual about listening to any-Goddamned-body. It’s called me privilege.

  289. Malla says:

    If we in the Third World would have half the traits in that list, a lot of our problems would reduce. We would not be shitholes anymore.

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